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Spacebabie
Saturday, April 28, 2001 08:41:59 AM
IP: user-37kaost.dialup.mindspring.com

Just because Gathering Deadlines and so forth have been bandied about of late, I bring you this week's Gathering News. You can get your own weekly update and view previous editions by subscribing off our website link.
Cheers!

The Gathering News # 27
April 27, 2001

Welcome to the Gathering News! In this issue: The Play's The Thing! New Work By Christine Morgan to Debut! Writers Workshop Update! Convention Countdown!

Radio Play Returns to the Gathering Schedule!

Continuing a Gathering Tradition, Greg Weisman will be auditioning and casting from among the fans for a performance of an authentic animation script as a "Radio Play" for the rest of the convention. The actual identity of the script is still being kept a secret until the moment it's performed, but if you want a chance to act alongside Thom "Lexington" Adcox and other voice actors from the series, or if you'd just like to see these professionals and your fellow fans perform live for YOUR benefit, than you won't want to miss the Gathering or this special event.

Christine Morgan to Debut Latest Work!

Christine Morgan, known in the fandom for her long-running fanfic saga, will be presenting two new books at this year's Gathering. The third in her MageLore trilogy, "Archmage of the Universe," will debut at the con. The author will read an excerpt, and signed copies will be available for sale.

In addition, Christine will be bringing a sneak peek of the audio book "Black Roses," a novel of demonic obsession being produced by TimeFare Books and read by the author. "Black Roses" is expecting an October release.

Writers Workshop Registration Closes!
Apologies to those who waited but registration has closed for the first annual Writers Workshop. This was a limited seating event and the spots have filled leaving us with a waiting list of hopeful attendees who will have to try again next year.

If you've been waiting to sign up for one of our other limited seating events such as the Live Modeling Seminar or Portfolio Review DON'T DELAY! Make sure you register today.

Check out all of our events at http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/events.htm

Convention Countdown

May 15, 2001 - Last day of Gathering 2001 Pre-registration
Time is quickly running out to take advantage of the special money-saving pre-registration rates on convention membership and Gathering 2001 tee-shirts. Membership at the door will be $60 for the full weekend, but right now the cost is only $40 for attendees who pre-register by May 15, 2001. That's a savings of 33%!

Tee-shirts at the convention will be $25.00 but if you order before May 15, 2001, you'll pay only $20, PLUS have the added convenience of your shirt waiting for you when you check in at the convention registration.

For more information on pre-registration, please visit:

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May 15, 2001 - Last day to reserve seats at the Awards Banquet

The last day of Gathering 2001 pre-registration will also be the last day we can offer seating at the Awards Banquet. If you're not already signed up, please don't delay in making your reservations, as this is an event you won't want to miss! In addition to a delicious four-course meal, seated at every table will be one or more of our special guests.

After the traditional informal Q&A, as dessert is being served, our Master of Ceremonies, Myhr will take over and begin the real festivities, with door prizes and our main awards ceremony. Admission to this exciting event is just $60, covering only our cost to bring it to you. For more information, including what's on the menu, please visit:

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May 23, 2001 - Last day to book hotel rooms

While you're making your final Gathering travel plans, don't forget to reserve your hotel room! Our special room rates at the Sheraton Universal will only be available until our allotted block fills or Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - whichever comes first. Rooms must be booked with the hotel directly by calling (818) 980-1212 or toll free 1-888-627-7186. Please be sure to tell the hotel reservations desk you are with "The Gathering of the Gargoyles" to receive the special group rate.

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kathy
Saturday, April 28, 2001 07:46:12 AM
IP: rr-56-12-163.atl.mediaone.net

Brings several Starbucks Caramel Frappucinos to the Tea Table of Peace

Finals are done I can relax by the pool...once we get the screen fixed...gotta keep out those hornets..

Gside>>>Yup Raising Arizona

Imazi>>>Quote. That would be Hudson.

Lain>>>HUGS

Daphne>>>Congrats

Can't wait for next Saturday, Magneto vs Xavier.

Sorrow>>>Hope you have a great prom.

Wwwwaaaaaaaiiiiiii....I can't believe they voted of Elizbeth.
Atleast Colby is still in the game.

Dang there goes the dryer buzzer

"To be forgoten is worse than death"<---guess this one

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Saturday, April 28, 2001 07:10:02 AM
IP: user-37kaost.dialup.mindspring.com

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Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.
Saturday, April 28, 2001 06:55:06 AM
IP: user-37kaost.dialup.mindspring.com

Presenting the latest story by yours truly...

A world council of gargoyles leads to more than the Manhattan Clan ever bargained for. "What Tomorrow Brings", available for reading now off my fanfic home page or on fanfiction.net.

Feedback is welcome. Enjoy!
Madame Destine - [m_destine@hotmail.com]
Saturday, April 28, 2001 05:00:13 AM
IP: ac8181b9.ipt.aol.com

All in all, another uneventful Friday. Didn't go to any classes. Meanwhile, my bastard roommate went to LA for the weekend (lucky dog), so I'm here all weekend, working tech support and bored outta my gourd.

A few responses before I hit the sack.

"Why would you want to hit a sack?"
--Guess the quote

Rodlox: <<which one does Brooklyn do>>: Neither. He just has bad posture.

Christine: <<It's like being a writer>>: Um, no. In fact, it is crucial that you NOT understand the rules of grammar, style, etc. in order to throw them out the window. (the window, the second story window, with a heave and a ho and a might through, we'll throw it out the window).

Revel: <<Imzani>>: There's a "d", my friend. <<icon>>: Bring it on!

Sorow: <<prom>>: Best of luck! Don't do anything I wouldn't do! And I lost my virginity on prom night in typical loser fashion, so that pretty much clears you for a whole bunch of non-CR appropriate stuff.

Beth H: <<So many things I don't understand>>: The secret is that NO one actually understands them all. Those of us in the field or advanced classes simply take in the instruction and regurgitate it. Physics professors are just the people who've gotten so good at the memorization part that they can convince the government to give them money to spit it back to eager young students like yourself.

Taleweaver: <<points about physics in sci-fi and fantasy>>: Dead on. Amen. Boo Yaka. And stuff. <<my ability to explain string theory is going to win me a date>>: It is!? Holy sh*t! I've got to try that, because I can explain string theory too! Oh, wait. Was that supposed to say "*isn't* going to win me a date"? Nuts... <<curvilinear motion>>: Might help when driving around tight turns...

For me, phsyics is about gaining a deeper understanding of the world around me. I guess you could say its the only religion I really have. I don't believe in powers that are higher than the apparent laws of nature. For me, looking at something and knowing every detail of how or why it is THAT way instead of some OTHER way makes it more beautiful to me. Understanding of myself and my surroundings is my own personal nirvana.

Coyote: <<it'll hold body panels together>>: Yeah, but you'll need a whole roll of the stuff to do that. A 3" piece here and there won't hold a ball of silly putty together at 100mph.

FS: <<fiber-OP>>: Okay, what are you gonna do with it? <<Like you could ever get a female lumberjack to go out with you!>>: Hey, if Bill Gates can get laid, there's hope for us all. Of course, Bill Gates is the SECOND richest man alive, so that might be a point in his favor that SJ doesn't have. <<Too damn depressing or fscked up>>: Listening to The Cure again? Just out of curiosity, what bands do you like? <<STOP MAKING SENSE!>>: Sorry, left my crack at home. <<a backpack dosn't pull 7G's on your crotch>>: I dunno, I've worn some pretty intense rigs...and I've had other things pull on my crotch with 7G's ::*cough* HOOVER *cough*:: <<she knows that deep down this is how I actually feel>>: And she puts up with that? So why is she so pissed at me? <<Excuses can save your but>>: Butt has two "t's". But yes, that's very true. <<Calcium-Oxygen-Florine-Potasium...What kind of message is that?>>: The kind of code that tells us how to write on chalkboards and sculpt glass. <>: Way to show the woman who's boss! <>: I wonder if I could forbid that when I take over the world. It would make maintaining a harem much easier. <<WTF IS THE DIFFERENCE>>: we're never gonna tell you, just drive you nuts with it. <<Mmmm... Skirts... schoolgirl>>: Well, now we know what LM will be wearing tonight...<<Core Breech emminent>>: I usually say this: Brain Overload! Seg Fault! Kernel Panic! Core Dump! (okay, so the last one's just raunchy).

Lain: <<couldnt have FRIENDS now>>: Friend? Wait, I know that word...it was on the SAT somewhere...<<christians>>: LOL you're kidding right? No, you're not. Sh*t, your dad is nuts. Well, if it makes him feel better, I'm a devout atheist. <<some people do>>: Can't save everyone! <<ATHEIST friends, who will in no way challenge my mind>>: In my opinion, if an Atheist can't challenge the way you think about SOMETHING, he/she's not a very good atheist. It doesn't have to be god. But atheists aren't born, they're made. Well, actually, we're born and then usually re-made after an unhealthy dose of god-stuffs. The point is that we got there by thinking, and provoking others to do the same (which is why we're ostracised so often). <<the christians have got it all>>: The fool. The jews have it all! BUWAHAHAHA. <<right imzy?>>: Yes, I am a male pig. And you met me on the internet. 2 for 2! <<axe murderer>>: I don't use axes. Too messy...<<whaza XFL>>: Its like an NFL, but with more violence and strippers. <<TAKE ME IM YOURS>>: Holy sh*t, Taleweaver! It works! Oh I so gotta try that! <<now THATS why you wanna move>>: The question is: is it really worth living in Canada to get those extra few years. Remember, those are years of infirmity and impotence. I don't think moving to Canada would be worthwhile, but then again I'm not afraid of death yet, either. <<but not a real fur coat, thats cruel>>: Barenaked Ladies RULES, even if they are Canucks.

Gside: <<I've always portrayed myself as myself>>: So send me a drawing of yourself or a picture and I'll turn it into an icon for the set. <<Let's hear it for torque>>: YAY TORQUE! <<Though it is rarer to actually have the setup>>: Let me tell you about this setup: the prof had a tennis-ball canon with a laser that shined in front of the muzzle. When the ball flew out, the beam was interrupted, signalling a magnet across the room to drop a stuffed monkey. How's THAT for classy monkey-hunting? <<It's really all about unit conversions>>: That is so true, especially when dealing with radioactivity. <<Sodium is very much fun>>: Boo Yaka. <<copylefted>>: What the hell does that word mean? <<I'd rather patch a ship from the inside>>: I wonder if they can rename duct tape to "warp 9.975 tape" instead of Coyote's "100 mph tape" <<have we been exceeded yet?>>: Not any time soon. <<How is that different from all other males?>>: Seems superfluous to me, too. <<We have a convert. Or at least a spy>>: Let's shoot her now. Better safe than sorry. 8-)

Well folks, I'm off to sleep. I have a busy day tomorrow of sitting on my bony white butt.

Now comes the really boring character development.
-Ben Barron, while watching Gladiator

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, April 28, 2001 01:19:50 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-124.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Imzadi> <<I'd really like to include everyone in the CR in my icon set>>: Good luck with me. I've always portrayed myself as myself (male human engineering student (wait, the second and third descriptors are mutually exclusive)).
<<Mechanics? More often than you realize, especially when you try to fix things around the house>>: Let's hear it for torque.
<<You shot falling monkeys too>>: Absolutely. I believe it's semi common. Though it is rarer to actually have the setup.

Beth. H.> <<Yeah but can biomechanical engineering make living androids?>>: Give them time. The principles should remain about the same, and they will need the help of Comp Sci for the AI.
<<So many things I don't understand at all>>: It's really all about unit conversions. You want to find something, but have all these other data that don't exactly tell you it but can be combined to give you what you want. Other than that use the equations that have what you are given and what you need.

Taleweaver> <<what alkali metals explode in water>>: Left hand side of the chart. Sodium is very much fun.

Fire Storm> <>: The stress should have been on the examples, not on Penny Arcade.
<<She still dosn't understand where the conversation in here was talking about wangs in that way>>: The most important strip is the can wang.
<<WTF IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNIX AND LINUX THEN?>>: Linus Torvalds rewrote the unix kernel and copylefted it. That let everyone else improve it and get it for free.
<>: It might be interesting to have the poem engraved in the ring.
<>: I think it would just be fun to have a replica of Narya.
<<Why is this face taking so long to render?>>: I'm sure there are so many other polygons, the tearducts were insignificant.
<<But duct tape comes in SO many colors now!>>: Even the glue side? I'd rather patch a ship from the inside than risk floating away.
<>: Lovely plumage might also work.

Lain> <<he doesnt want me hanging around "christians" any more>>: Don't we still make up the majority of the North American population, or have we been exceeded yet?
<<me meeting male pigs over the net>>: How is that different from all other males?
<<physics is FUN!!! its GREAT!!!!! too bad i have to do a degree in FINE FREAKIN ARTS>>: We have a convert. Or at least a spy.
<<but not a real fur coat, thats cruel>>: Tell that to my hat.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, April 27, 2001 10:35:16 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Lain: <pickles> I don't know what's wrong with them either. <shrugs>

Rodlox: The Ravens RP has pretty much been discontinued, I'm afraid. Doug and I have stopped having the kind of free time we used to have to write it. Not very many people seemed to be paying attention to it anyway. :( So we've stopped doing it. If enough people want us to, we might consider starting again, but it's a dim certainty. We all knew the eventual ending anyway, as Doug pointed out a while back (bad guys dead, good guys live happily ever after).

Shadowrider: Hello again. <moment of silence for the departed Michele Alboreto>

SOROW: Have a fun prom!
Kit
Friday, April 27, 2001 10:02:38 PM
IP: pool-63.52.170.25.dlls.grid.net

*enters quietly*

imzy>>... shhhh better not tell my dad when yer commin... hes gonna start crackin down on the number of friends i have you know... heck.. couldnt have FRIENDS now, could we?
*shakes head* heaven forbid THAT should happen..

*******RANTY RANT... COS WHAT WOULD MY POSTS BE WITHOUT THE RANT??????********
oh oh.. the LATEST one is that he was mad today cos he got home from work early and i hadnt finished packing for moving back to that school again. i mean.. he was REALLY mad.. he went so far as to say it was all my fault and that i was purposely trying to break apart what teensy bit of family the two of us have left. escuse me? did i hear that right? oooooooh yes i did.. not to mention his girlfriend is coming over tomorrow. last i heard she was coming for lunch. NOW shes coming early in the morning and staying for at LEAST dinner. and they are going to do wallpaper and gardening together. what do i do? "oh i dont care, find something. youre going out to karate, arent you?" niiiiiiiiiiiice.. way to show your love right there dad..
so he yelled at me for AT LEAST three hours.. whenever i came near. cos it was OBVIOUSLY my fault that he got home from work early and i wasnt finished packing.. well NATURALLY.. cos doncha know EVERYTHING is my fault????? i even caused a traffic jam once.. all by myself.. just by sitting in the car..
so the next thing is "do you want me to make supper, dad?" well no of COURSE not cos you see.. poor guy doesnt have TIME for the luxury of eating, doncha know. he used it as ANOTHER reason to yell at me and brought up the time when Gunjack was here and we didnt have enough time to go "see the sights" around town. cos he came back at one thirty and yelled that i wasnt ready when the agreement was that we were to be ready at 2pm.
and ANOTHER of his latest gigs... he doesnt want me hanging around "christians" any more. oh NO!!! not the eeeeevil CHRISTIANS!!!!! whatever will i DO???!?!?! sop on the ONE hand, he says i need to go out and make new friends. and im not ACTIVELY going out and finding friends who believe in GOD you know.. just.. some people do, heaven forbid. but cant have that, no no. i need to find good ATHEIST friends, who will in no way challenge my mind and just keep me complacant to his way of thinking. and that isnt to say i am suddenly thinking the christians have got it all and im gonna convert tomorrow.. and it doesnt mean ANYTHING other than i have some friends. which is what he wanted.. but thats obviously not good enough.

i think maybe hes afraid im gonna grow up? gah.. i was SO angry today when he started on his rant about ME breaking up the "family" that i wanted to smack him.. good and hard.. but instead, when he went out to get some groceries, i dusted the house and all the drapes, pottery and pictures, vaccuumed the carpets and the stairs, swept all the floors, cleaned the kitchen sink, cleaned the stove, wiped all the counters AND swept off the back deck..
he hasnt noticed yet..

you know what???? if i ever get married, he is SO not EVER gonna "give me away"
*grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...*

but in other good news.. seeing as how he "doesnt care" what im doing tomorrow.. heres to STAYING ON THE NET ALL DAY!!!!!! : D : D : D : D : D

(either that or lounge on the freshly swept back deck in my bikini and catch the rays ; ))

too bad i dont have AOL at home though.. otherwise i could perpetuate my fathers fears about me meeting male pigs over the net.. right imzy? youre not an axe murderer, are you? if you arent, would you consider bringing an axe JUST IN CASE you decide to become one while youre here? you know.. on that offchance? wouldnt want to disappoint my father now, would we?
*************END RANTY RANT*************FOR NOW*************

XFL stuff: erm.. whaza XFL??????

taleweaver>> "Being able to see pieces as part of a larger whole AND seeing the whole for its component parts is a tremendous power" *reads over this and mumbles something about schenkerian analysis.. *
and STRING theory?????? OOOOOOO OOOOOOOO!!!!!!! TAKE ME IM YOURS!!!!!!! : D : D ; )
physics is FUN!!! its GREAT!!!!! too bad i have to do a degree in FINE FREAKIN ARTS aint it? grrrrrr...

gunjy wunjy poo>> heh.. check out imzys post about life expectency.. now THATS why you wanna move to canada.. ; )

kit>> whats so bad about pickles, anyways? i dont understand it.. pickles are GREAT... especially homemade ones..

well.. i think thats all for now...
see you guys later

love,
lain "but not a real fur coat, thats cruel" iwakura - [dsanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Friday, April 27, 2001 07:42:39 PM
IP: ttyb09.ptbo.igs.net

Kewl! My spool of Fiber-OP came in the mail today!

My link is a cool kung-fu flash video I found on Aimee's CR. Check it out!

SJ: <some people actually thought that I had a bisexual girlfriend who lived in Canada>
I knew it was a joke. Like you could ever get a female lumberjack to go out with you! ;)
<And I am heavily campaigning for the one party system myself>
::grumble:: last time I try to be subtle in here.

Imzadi: <The reason I prefer hard rock and industrial music is that, by far, they have the most meaningful and heartfelt lyrics (assuming you can understand them)>
Big difference between you and me: I prefer to NOT hear the lyrics of songs. Too damn depressing or fscked up. Of course, it also probally has to do with the songs I listen to...
<Yes, but the idea being that you use the money from people who don't report to a credit agency to deal with the people who DO>
STOP MAKING SENSE!
<No problem. I've been backpacking.>
Only difference here is that a backpack dosn't pull 7G's on your crotch.
<Hey FS, does LM know you're saying these things?>
Yeah, she knows. And she knows that deep down this is how I actually feel. In some ways at least.
And, actually, she did get a little upset with how I was talking. It is understandable, though.
<If you want massive quantities, though a bit pricey, I will take you to Jerry's Deli near the Sheraton. You'll love it>
Whenever I want quantity for a low price, I go to Wheat and Rye! <PLUG!> 1.5 lbs Corned beef (I think, anyway), for $6!
<Isn't that what the DLD is for?>
Yes.

Warpmind: <Ah, so you actually have an EXCUSE!>
Excuses can save your but! Remember this, and you will live a long life!

Spacebabie: <"Son, you got a panty on your head.">
Hmm... Wierd Science? OR is it my neighbor?

Warpmind: Nice code! Simple subsitution codes are always the best!
Although, you should have seen what I was doing...
"Calcium-Oxygen-Florine-Potasium... What kind of message is that?"

Xenatrek: <LM -- I am still curious if you have passed along my comment about chatting w/ you verse FS>
I am sorry, but I have taken away LM's computer privilages.
She has started to think too independantly. I have to stop it. ;)
Seriously, though, I was disapointed. But it is understandable.

DPH: If you are having that hard of a time finding an LS-120 drive, I know where to find a lot of them relatively cheap. Computer shows. One every weekend in my area.
If you want, I can pick one up and UPS it to you.

CrzyDemona: <although LIVE Nude girls is MUCH preferable to DEAD ones>
You've obviously never saw the movie "Live Nude Girls" then! :)

Coyote: <Most of the Rangers put out now are flex-fuel>
SWEET! That makes deciding on what truck to get a little easier! Although... I was leaning more towards Diesel...
<playing XFL games in Tiger Stadium>
You have got to be fscking kidding me!

Gside: <Did you show any Penny Arcade examples?>
DANG IT! I was trying to figure out why there wasn't wangs in Agnst Technology!
<Did you show any Penny Arcade examples?>
I showed her. She still dosn't understand where the conversation in here was talking about wangs in that way.
I am not too sure either...Of course, I really haven't been reading the wang related stories.
<But as I said, I have not yet been taught the uses of diodes>
Even if that diagram WAS explained, I still probally couldn't understand it.
<But the important part is that you are simultaneously living with a woman you are sleeping with.>
Damn straight!
<You'd better make sure you use a thin layer or else it'll easily burn through the driveway>
Hey, I was thinking more of huge ice blocks.
Hmm... you know, my freezer is in DESPERATE need to be defrosted...
<Just about every Unix variant has a graphical shell or two>
Ok... JUST WTF IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNIX AND LINUX THEN?!?!?!?
<Well, aparently the only application in which it could use improvement is actual sealing of ducts.>
They have. It's called "Nashuia Foil 322." A roll of foil (instead of fabric) duct tape I keep near my computer.
Cool $h|7! It ALSO has multiple uses! From drywall installation (put it behind the sheets to make filling cracks easier) to, gasp!, taping ducts!

I have my own design, thank you very much.
(And yeah, i have looked for enchanted rings. Best I could find is one that makes me able to change my shoes really fast)
<I've heard they rendered 20,000 polygon tear ducts>
::laughs:: Overkill!
"Why is this face taking so long to render?"
"Well, it's the tear ducts!"
<Absolutely. Why else do you think their ships are grey? So the patches don't stand out.>
But duct tape comes in SO many colors now!
Hmm... I am reminded of the Monty Python RN ad for some reason...
<Japanese schoolgirl vs. Catholic schoolirl. Discuss>
Mmmm... Skirts... schoolgirl...
****WARNING! Logic circuit//hormone interface failure!****
Core Breech emminent!
****WARNING! Duct tape supplies at critical!****
Have a nice day!
Fire Storm - [<--- Everyone was kung-fu fighting!]
Friday, April 27, 2001 07:02:09 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

**grumbles as he enters**

Ya know what? I haven't posted since ... looks like Sunday night. I think it's time for me to play a good old fashioned game of catch up. :P

FS: Most of the Rangers put out now (if Doug and Kit's is new) are flex-fuel, meaning they'll run on either gasoline or compressed natural gas (CNG).

BTW, thanks for all the well-wishes. My sinus troubles seem to be leaving me ... I still occasionally sound like I'm gonna try to cough up a lung, but it's not quite as frequent. :)

XFL stuff: It's pretty much a given that the XFL *will* have a second season. And may possibly expand ... league officials were in Detroit a month or so ago looking into the possibility of playing XFL games in Tiger Stadium. (unlike other cities who get new stadiums, the state of Michigan declared Tiger Stadium a historical monument, meaning that it *can't* be torn down ... in fact, it's already seen some use as a stand-in for pre-renovation Yankee Stadium in a movie coming up on HBO, "61*")

XenaTrek, re: Witchblade: well, of course they can't use the comic book look for her ... they'd never get it past S&P if ya dressed up Yancey Butler in an outfit that basically covered up her left hand, nipples and crotch and *that was it.* ;)

SJ: That picture of Dr. Aki appears in the *current* issue of Maxim, to be specific a special insert of the "100 Hottest Hollywood Women."

Happy birthday to all those whose birthdays I've missed in my infirmity. I'll try to make it up to you. **half the wall opens up and the mother of all Execution^TM cakes arrives** All the birthday children ... find a remote and pick yer flavors. ;)

Warpmind: Oh yeah, and now I'm suffering from Sweetheart With Drawl Withdrawal ... (i.e. Ravyn went home for the weekend)

Crzy: Ahh, I see someone's been watching some Elaine Boosler routines ... ;)

Welcome newcomers. :)

Taleweaver: Congrats to you and your fiancee. Let us know when the show airs ... I know at least I'd be interested in seein' her kick butt if I know when the show airs. :)

Duct tape: Actually, there's a reason why some people in the arena I work in (auto parts) call that stuff "100mph tape" ...
... it's because it'll hold body panels together on a stock car going 100mph-plus. :)

Ravyn: **returns her huggling and huggles some more** Missing you! :)

"I was nothing but a lonely boy
Looking for something new
And you were nothing but a lonely girl
But you were something
Something like a dream come true ...
I was a varsity tackle and a hell of a block
When I played my guitar
I made the canyons rock ... but ...
Every Saturday night
I felt the fever grow
D'you know what it's like
All revved up with no place to go ..."
-- Meat Loaf
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, April 27, 2001 06:07:13 PM
IP: 64.243.214.139

Beth H> I'm sorry you hate physics, but if you're going to write anything resembling science fiction, a working knowledge of physics, chemistry and all the rest. Not a mastery, but enough to work with. Main reason is that sci-fi fans are more sophisticated than they used to be. They aren't going for the old Buck Rogers 'static discharge canon' and everyone's been innured with lasers since GI Joe and Transformers in the 80's. Knowing what's cutting edge and why can give your story freshness.

A second (and to me a more vital reason) is to expand your thinking. I'll cop to the fact that you probably won't find too many situations where the theory of osmosis is going to come in real handy and few of us live MacGuyver-like adventures where knowing what alkali metals explode in water is a requirement. The facts, however, are only part of it. The real gold is studying math and science is the thinking. Understanding how things relate to one another. Being able to see pieces as part of a larger whole AND seeing the whole for its component parts is a tremendous power.

True, my ability to explain string theory is going to win me a date. And understanding rotational motion compared to curvilinear motion isn't going to be used outside physics and engineering, but from such studies open up a larger world for me. Seeing beyond the horizon, touching what's beyond your fingertips. And isn't that's what science fiction and fantasy is all about.

And a mini-rant> I see the problem with the NFL is much larger with all professional sports and I include college sports in this one to. (There's too much money been flinged aroung for it not to be considered professional) I agree there are less and less notables who play for the love of the game. There are some. Not every team has multimillion dollar players, but the ones who play for love aren't the ones who get the contracts. Those are the breaks. People who make a name in sports do so by getting people's attention. People who love to play a game don't get that attention.

Stephen> Permit me a little devil's advocate though. If you are paid upwards of millions of dollars to play a game and on bad injury and your out, forgot and broke. Well yeah, I can see why someone won't play their hardest: too much to lose.

But I've ranted and raved enough for a while. Until next time.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Friday, April 27, 2001 05:06:21 PM
IP: cbl064.pool008.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

Yeah but can biomechanical engineering make living androids? I don't think so!!!

Damnit I hate physics. So many things I don't understand at all. >:P
Beth H.
Friday, April 27, 2001 02:14:30 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

My senior prom is tomorrow night so please pray for my soul. j/k I know I haven't been in here lately, but I hope everyone is doing alright. Love ya.
SOROW
Friday, April 27, 2001 01:16:10 PM
IP: a020-0695.dll2.splitrock.net

The down side to leaving college to go home is all the blasted cleaning! I constructed a dust bunny so big that it's practically the size of a REAL bunny. Sad huh? (the highlight so far. I still need to go reserve a U-haul so that will be fun. It's sad because its kind of like going to a used anything salesman. You want a little trailer, you see a litle trailer, they tell you they have none, but have plenty of the size you don't need.
Annoying to say the least.

Warp- I remember when my cousin Cutter was in my room and I HAD one of those swinging ball things that knock one another back and forth. Well I did put emphasis on had. Never could untangle that thing.

Imzani- Icon huh? well let's see if I can find a full body pic of Degger or hell, I'll just make one.

Calopie- Happy Birthday, when ever it was, I'm always late on those things.

"Tuck and roll, tuck and roll!"
Titus
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Friday, April 27, 2001 12:04:10 PM
IP: ac868548.ipt.aol.com

Well, as I said I was going to, I'm back! I'll be here until Monday this time. If anyone is wondering about, my service is going all right...this last week, I had real fun in doing some exercises of infiltration and close defense.
Well, and what's happening here? Anything interesting?

Welcome to all the newcomers!

Well, there's something else, and I'm sorry to sadden the CR, but I'd like to propose a moment of silence. Just two days ago, in an accident during some tests on a track near Dresda, has died Michele Alboreto, former driver of the Ferrari F.1 and winner of the 24-hours of Le Mans. He was 44, and leaves a wife and two childrens. In his long career, he always distinguished himself for his great correctness, for his willingness, for his ability of not surrendering at the difficulties. He was, indeed, one of the last true "gentlemen drivers" of car-racing.

I'll be back later
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Friday, April 27, 2001 10:12:14 AM
IP: h255-20-28.mi2.albacom.net

Stephen > congrats!

Beth > LOL, but before you can _defy_ the laws of physics, ya gotta _know_ the laws of physics! It's like being a writer. Have to know the rules of grammar, style, and structure before chucking 'em all in favor of artistry ; )

Site update coming soon, maybe today. Got some pics to add.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, April 27, 2001 10:07:45 AM
IP: 24-175.075.popsite.net

<-{I have no idea who this is - but the 'kazan' got my attention...as in 'khazar'}.

just a little something to ponder {and hopefully answer}...

Gorillas are knuckle-walkers, as are Chimpanzees.

Orang-utangs, when they aren't climbing in trees or walking on two legs, will walk on their fists.

How is Fist-walking different from Knuckle-walking?

which one does Brooklyn do? {I seem to recall a few series eps where he's hunched over, his hands on the ground}.

have a nice day!

Rodlox
Friday, April 27, 2001 10:05:07 AM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Hi guys and other Folk. I apologize for not being around for a while..."busy" doesn't begin to describe it.

hmm...whole bunch of new pics for this room. :)

Out of curiosity, did anyone here see the new series _Special Unit Two_? the season pilot had them going up against gargoyles. I wonder how the Manhattan Gargs of our fandom would far against the Chicago gargs of SP2. thoughts?

if I might ask, how is the RAVENS SAGA going? we still winning? did the Dammed Souls all get sent down you-know-where?

Rodlox - [Rodlox@ hotmail.com]
Friday, April 27, 2001 09:47:55 AM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Stephen: Well, I still sort of disagree with you about Buffy. Whenever the show gets syndicated, you should really give a chance and watch it from the beginning. True, it's not "classic" like Dark Shadows, but it's not totally teeny-bopper. It's not Dawson's Creek with vampires. Part of the show's charm is that they have this very young person, teen angst concept and they actually parody it, where as shows like Dawson's Creek or Felicity take themselves seriously. Plus, the writing on the show is just top-notch.

And I do agree with you about the NFL. They've lost a lot of their heat, IMO. Lately, over the past few years, the league has seemed to just sort of drift on cruise control here and there. Nothing super exciting, nothing classic. No Cinderella stories of a team battling their way from behind to win it all. Etc. I mean, look at our Superbowl this year--Baltimore vs. New York??? While I am a fan of Baltimore (geographic loyalty, or course), I have to say that no one really predicted that either of these teams would have gone all the way. And that's not because either team was a sleeper and they were underestimated, it's because both teams were (accurately) considered to be just mediocre (and they were, outside of the Ravens ungold defense). And the only reason that they got there was because many of the other league favorites, like St. Louis, couldn't hope their crap together long enough to take it all the way. So, on that I'm tracking with you. The XFL tried to bring intensity and drama back into the game.
And I was excited about the league when it first started. But....I'm sorry, as much as I liked the concept and what they were trying to do with it all....they just didn't play good football. They played maybe on the same level of the NFL Europe (go Barcelona Dragons!). And even with a lackluster performance in the NFL, that quality of play is just not up to the level of performance put out by the NFL. So, I liked the idea of what they were trying to do, but....I just couldn't watch the games anymore because it just wasn't good enough quality for me.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Friday, April 27, 2001 07:11:41 AM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

[Enters the CR bearing a heavy book marked "How to Manage Things", while stopping by the Tea Table to drop off a platter full of McD's cheeseburgers... he drops the book next to the platter then turns to address the room...]

WHEW! Greetings all... I am SO glad to finally reach my days-off!

Hope everyone doesn't mind the burgers, but I had to use something symbolic to celebrate what's been happening with me these past few nights... as of right now, I am no longer a regular crew person for McDonalds. Last night I aced my final test for my Area Manager class, and so I'm the newest AM at my store! It will be about three weeks before I get my diploma and my new blue shirts, but as of Sunday, I'll have to start working to get my full certification (that way I'll earn my full pay raise) and start applying all the stuff I learned in AM class and my Advanced Crew Class (the prerequisite for becoming an Area Mangager).

Of course, with new responsibilities comes new headaches...

*** WARNING, POSSIBLE RANT AHEAD!!!

There's this one Area Manager - I nicknamed her Mouse, because her first name is the same as the Disney Icon - who's been on my tail ever since she heard I was taking the AM class. Yesterday at work, she took me aside while things were slow and told me that the reason she was being such a hardcase was to "turn me into the best manager ever", because she'd been talking to the rest of the day crew and they all said (according to her) that if I pass and become an AM that they won't respect my new status... This came out of leftfield as far as I was concerned, since I've always tried to do the best job that I could. i have a feeling that she and I need to sit down and talk first, so we can get on the same page... the last thing I need right now is to have a team that won't support me when we've got customers to satisfy when the time comes...

****END RANT...

Anyway, on to more plesant things:

CHRISTINE - Killer news! Can't wait for the finished book to make it's way into our hands...

SJ - Actually, the reason why I can make the comments I did about BuffyTVS and the XFL are two-fold: 1) Buffy never struck me as being all that good of a show, since I've always viewed a GOOD horror show as being one like the classics (Dark Shadows, Tales from The Crypt, etc.)... BtVS seems to concentrate more on a group of teens that are involved in fighting monsters, while at the same time some of said teens are in love with some of said monsters... BLEH! Not what I care to see in a "good" horror show.
2.) I like the model that the XFL is presenting as far as how a "professional" football team should be. Even though I'm still a fan of my Buccaneers (and always will) lately NFL teams have lost their luster when it comes to just PLAYING the game... we've got premadonnas that ask for ridiculously-high salaries, then they play on the feel like they don't want to get hurt. COME ON! this is football! Pain is part of the game, and you can't NOT expect some of that when you play a really good game of it! Also, with the exception of a few players and teams, competition in the NFL is a joke. No one really shows any hunger or drive to want to perform to win. THAT'S why I love the XFL! Guys only get paid so much to participate, and they get paid MORE to win! plus, these guys have a lot more drive and heart! They want to go out there and win no matter what... I just have to point to the Orlando Rage QB Jeff Brahm for example. He got DRILLED to the dirt once and it looked like he wouldn't come back to play for the rest of the season. Next game came around, Jeff was back out there, better than ever! THAT's what I'd like to see in the NFL! More heart, more drive, less pansy-footing and cut those multi-million dollar paychecks down to make the real players want to play!

And well, that's all for me for now... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Friday, April 27, 2001 06:38:26 AM
IP: 2416419hfc196.tampabay.rr.com

::A box appears in the CR on the Tea Table of Peace. The box falls apart, revealing a flatscreen TV. Imzadi's face appears.::

Boy, was today ever exhausting. I had to wake up at the butt-crack of NOON for a class at 1230. At 2, I had a lab that was 2 hours long, most of which involved graphing the decay of radioactive isotops, which we EXPOSED OURSELVES TO (no, not in the illegal way). So don't be surprised if my progeny are not only evil incarnate, but have wings and a tail to match (I'll be so jealous). Then, if being radioactive wasn't enough, I went into a computer lab and exposed myself to the smell of programmers for another hour. I'd stay FAR away from the Bay Area if I were you guys.

So, in short, I didn't bother to actually come INTO the CR today because I'd probably kill you all.

Yes! New Maxim with Elizabeth Dushku...droool...she is SO gonna be in my harem when I take over the world. In other news, the U.S. of A. ranks 32nd in male life expectancy, at 73.4 years. The top 6 countries were Iceland, Japan, Sweden, Canada, and Hong Kong (all of them between 75.8 and 76.8 years)

NEW ICONS! WINTERWOLF, you might wanna check out the "other.jpg" picture...I think you'll find it entertaining.

And now that I've started with Winterwolf, I offer the rest of you the chance to become forever immortalized on desktops 'round the world! Submit a colored picture of you as a gargoyle or anthropomorph or WHATEVER (or a really high-quality scan of one) and you will become an icon! I'd really like to include everyone in the CR in my icon set, I think it'd be pretty cool.

GXB: <<that's my bush>>: Yes, it is by far one of the funniest shows out there, after South Park and the Man Show. Comedy Central really has a great lineup on their hands. Eat your heart out, NBC! (who else remembers the Friends/Seinfeld/ER thursday nights?).

Warpmind: <<*Your* future world government?>>: What part of "my" confused you? <<kinfolk>>: LOL. <<pruning the family tree>>: double LOL. <<my documents>>: smart people don't keep their documents in the default location, in ANY OS. That way, no idiot with a virus can wipe out anything important. My Documents, indeed. What really irks me is that you can't change the name of that folder!

Allaine: <<just because you're a god doesn't mean you know everything>>: Whatever. A REALY god would know everything (that's how I know I'm a god). <<popped up in the backseat>>: That can NEVER be good. <<Buffy and Spike getting involved>>: Oh, I don't think its a good thing, per se, but it would make for some good TV...<<she just gets so irrational>>: She's not irrational, she's female. <<Batman and Barbara Gordon>>: I vaguely remember that ep. <>: Wanna start something? Let's go, hippy!

Caliope: Happy birthday! <>: She's legal...::brandishes a large wooden paddle:: <<whats your plan>>: Seems there's a severe shortage of civil engineers, these days. As I'm sure you know from economics class, as demand increases and supply drops...PRICE SKYROCKETS! That, or I'll just get a cushy marketing/management job in a software company.

Lain: Guess what!? Tickets are BOOKED! I will be in Toronto from May 25 to June 3. Be there or be square, babe! 8-) <<just because theres no women in the house doesnt mean he can get AWAY with stuff like that>>: Um, actually it does. You should see the state of MY apartment. Most of our friends are male, the only time chicks are here is on movie nights and stuff...that's about once a month. <<they dont make men like they used to>>: They don't make women like they used to, either. <<fun for everyone>>: Well, for HIM, anyway.

Beth H: <<dream>>: It means your new boyfriend is going to eat you. No elaboration necessary, I hope. LOL. <<Biomechanical Engineering>>: Bad news, babe. That field already exists. I have a friend who's taking a class in it. <<When am I going to use physics>>: What kind of physics are we talking about here? Relativity? Never, unless you start travelling at the speed of light. E&M? Also probably never. Mechanics? More often than you realize, especially when you try to fix things around the house.

Kit: <<properties of certain chemicals>>: Probably not gonna learn about those in physics. <<only #49 in my class>>: Depends on how big your class was. <<I'm not the only woman in here who likes intelligent guys>>: I hear about this phenomenon a lot. Where are all these women who supposedly like smart guys? Before everyone says "right here!", what I mean is "how come there aren't any near me?"

Gside: <<shooting falling monkeys>>: You shot falling monkeys too!? No way! Our mechanics prof. did a demo where he shot a falling monkey. It was hysterical. I still laugh when I think about it.

Anyone who considers arithmetical methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin.
-John Von Neumann, 1951

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, April 27, 2001 01:11:49 AM
IP: adsl-64-170-153-165.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Imzadi> <<Sick, dude. Just sick>>: At least it wasn't my joke originally. And be glad I didn't mention the THL guy.
<<Who?>>: It's a webcomic at jobeth.net. It's a series of one panels making fun of airheads.
<<LOL>>: It would be funny if I actually didn't forget.

Warpmind> <<Warpmind slithers about, pondering evil misdeeds>>: Dress in purple and green today?
<<I've read the Jay Omega books>>: I haven't. Shame on me.
<<Kids who accidentally wiped the ENTIRE "My Documents" folder>>: I'm sure it was an accident...

Denis> Good luck.

Cal�ope> <<whats your plan>>: Same as mine. Engineering.
<<wassat?>>: From what I hear, pretty much the anatomy book. Many dissections, a good bit of cross sections, and I think recent editions have cat scans. It should probably be subtitled Fun With Cadavers. Warpmind, make a note.
<<is it realy that scary and cruel, or psycadelic wierd stuff?>>: Scary and cruel mostly. I have a couple of his things in my directory. burnthpriest is a pretty good example, but not quite as good as his Head on a Pike.

Beth H.> <>: Ever read the webcomic Kevin and Kell? Granted, it's a male rabbit and a wolf.
<>: Aw come on, physics is fun. You get to shoot bullets at hanging blocks of wood, and have monkeys throw coconuts off cliffs. Not to mention shooting falling monkeys.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, April 26, 2001 10:41:03 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Mary: Congrats on graduating. I'm sure you feel proud. Good to see your sister left you at least one good thing. :) <dream> Hmm, I'm not that good at dream interpretation. However, I'd say that there's definitely a feeling you're different from everybody else in there. You feel you are flightly and timid (like a rabbit) and feel you need someone big, strong, and brave (like a bear) to be with and watch over you. You want to find this person and get away with him to somewhere isolated from everyone else, who you are afraid of. However, you are still afraid that even if you do get away they will still be able to find you, harass you, and make you scream. You know you can depend on your strong good bear lover to get you away from them and stand by you no matter what, though. Does that make sense? As for what you should do now that you've had this dream, I don't know. You'll have to figure that one out on your own. Good luck. <physics> It makes sense to me that you'd better be able to write stuff that defies the laws of physics if you knew exactly what laws you want to defy. You might also learn about the cool properties of certain chemicals and forces- you can write these things into your stories and thus make cool stories. Maybe it has some value after all? :)

Daphne: Wow. Congrats on having such good grades. #3. I was only #49 in my class, not quite that good. <half-grin> Well, congratulations again, I bet your speech is going to be wonderful and inspiring. (Post a copy in here if you like, I'd enjoy reading it.) Congrats on Mike too, glad I'm not the only woman in here who likes intelligent guys. <Bitch> I *love* that song. It speaks to women everywhere. :)

Lain: You know, I like pickles too. I like them a lot. Not Doug, though. He won't eat a sandwich without checking for them and removing them if they're there even after he asked the server not to put them there. <shakes head> Sorry to hear you're getting grief from your dad again. I'd give you advice, but you've pretty much covered it already with your job/financial problems. Wish we could help. As is, all we can do is wish you luck. :( And say you should try to bear it for now, as no bad thing can last forever.

Christine: Glad for the good book news. Hope to be reading Archmage soon. :)

Warpmind: Ooh. Bad family, extremely bad. I would not like having people like that in my family. Hope you someday have the opportunity for proper poetic revenge.

Buffy&Angel: Another pair of great episodes. All I could say on them has been said already, though. Damn my lack of free time right now. :P
Kit
Thursday, April 26, 2001 07:55:49 PM
IP: pool-63.52.170.200.dlls.grid.net

Hey gang, One other thing I forgot to mention on my adventures to the Sony pictures studios (AKA Wolfram & Hart) While I was waiting I spotted a tall lank guy dressed in black and sunglasses. I figured a star, but didn't think much of it. Then on the way to the game studio, the guide pointed out where they were filming Spiderman the movie. Then it clicked, That was Xander. That's right I saw Nicholas Brenden and did nothing. Though that's par for the course for me. If I meet famous people, I remain calm, reserved almost unimpressed, but on the inside I'm climbing up the walls.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, April 26, 2001 07:33:54 PM
IP: cbl064.pool008.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

Beth > my fiancee could probably analyze the dream. She's pretty good at it.
Ranma Saotome - [Ranma_Saotome79@tendodojo.com]
Thursday, April 26, 2001 07:10:13 PM
IP: host-209-214-126-224.bna.bellsouth.net

*enters*

OK, in case you guys are interested in hearing this, I had an interesting dream a couple of nights ago. I dreamt I was a white rabbit and I had a bear lover. Seriously, my lover was not LIKE a bear, he WAS a bear. A brown bear to be exact. We were hiking through the forest looking for a home to call our own, since we had eloped because our families did not approve of our love for each other. We came upon a small cottege in a glade, painted all white with a little picket fence and a flower bed. The real estate agent (who was a bird) handed my lover the contract to buy the house, and he would have signed it, but just at that moment we heard rumbling sounds from the forest. Our families came out and were yelling and cursing at us for runnning off with another species. My lover dropped the contract, and grabbed my paw and we run off into the forest again, since we couldnt' stay there since our families had found us.

I'm telling you, whatever I ate the night before, I better not eat it again.

BTW, can anyone here who is pretty good at understanding dreams analyze this for me?

YAY!!! I got my cap and tassle today!!! I'm going to use the gown my sister used for her graduation.

I hate physics. I hate physics. I hate physics. I hate physics. Did I mention I hate physics? I want to be a comic book writer!!!! When am I going to use physics? I plan to write stuff that DEFIES the laws of physics!!! I will make up my own science and technology!!!! One I know of is Biomechanical Engineering. >:) Yup, this is where bio-androids come from. :)

And all of this is part of my Ranma 1/2 fanfic series. >:)
Beth H.
Thursday, April 26, 2001 06:44:50 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

T'was time I updated th'bl##dy site!! Please come, and enjoy the little i have uploaded. (server still doesn't let upload the gross of ggx :'(...)
More to come, soon...
Solomon - [solomonv1@yahoo.com]
Palma, Spain
Thursday, April 26, 2001 06:26:51 PM
IP: 62.42.63.5

Daphne> WOW!!!! BIG congratulations on being #3 in your class. It's a wonderful honor, and I know you had to have worked hard. Great work, and congrats!!!! :)

Coyote> **huggles** :)

Thought of the Day:
If you have 24 odds and ends on a table, and 23 fall off, what do you have left? An odd, or an end?

Sorry, couldn't resist posting that one. :)
Ravyn
Thursday, April 26, 2001 05:55:45 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

wow. it's been a while. between schoolwork on weekdays and spending time with Mike on weekends (yes, we are now officially a couple!), I haven't been able to come in enough.

as for mike... [sighs] people say I'm insane, but I find intelligent guys sexy... Mike is a genius. He's funny, he respects me, we have a great time together... he likes my poetry...

In other news, I'm going to be salutatorian at my graduation! Not because of being #2 in the class (actually, I'm #3), but because what my school does (strange but not unusual, and I'm not complaining) is anyone who's eligible can write a speech, and the top speeches are presented before judges, who choose the top valedictorian and salutatorian speeches.

FireStorm>> <There is more in a woman�s mind than you can possibly fathom> I think Meredith Brooks said it best in the song "B!tch"...

***BFTS RP****

[THE REALM]

Jason is embarassed for not introducing his guide.

"This is Daphne..." he pauses, trying to remember her full name.

Daphne smiles at DPH. "Hello. and you are...?"

***END BFS RP*****

sorry DPH, but Daphne doesn't know that much about Jason's friends...

Happiness, all!
Daphne - [suburbanbubble@hotmail.com]
the suburban bubble
Thursday, April 26, 2001 05:25:27 PM
IP: dialup-63.214.199.159.philadelphia1.level3.net

*lain wanders in, opening windows VERY WIDE*

well.. the carbon monoxide detector is going PSYCHO at the moment so.. i guess id better be out near the computer.. with this LARGE WINDOW... mmmmmm.. fresh air...

anyway.. this is just a quickie post
im still alive and not going to jump out windows or anything.

um.. not much else to report other than that.. im sorting laundry and... why isnt val online? why is he never around when i want to randomly torment someone?????? *sigh*

and the worst thing my father has done so far: HE THREW OUT MY PICKLES!!!!!!!!! can you IMAGINE that ABSOLUTE CHEEK????? i mean.. whats the world coming to when you cant leave home and know your pickles are gonna be safe????? what good is a sandwich without PICKLES?!?!?!? sheesh, i tell you... they dont make men like they used to.. the other day the TOILET SEAT was up!!! like.. just because theres no women in the house doesnt mean he can get AWAY with stuff like that!!!...

speaking of women.. we are going to see a play in toronto next week.. on the 2nd i think.. and we are all going to be staying over at his girlfriends house...
(fun fun for everyone.....eeeeeeeigh...)

ooooo the detector has gone off "psycho" mode and has entered "rather annoying intermittent piercing beep" mode.. this is a GOOD thing..

my father should be home soon aswell, joy of all joys.. in fact.. there he is now.....
*flees from the computer*

lain
the Great White North
Thursday, April 26, 2001 01:03:53 PM
IP: ttye14.ptbo.igs.net

Warpmind > augh! That's awful! I would be ready to bundle those kids off to the sweatshop or sell 'em to the gypsies, and that would be just as an appetizer! Best of luck salvaging.

Dreamie > I guess I should have rushed right out on the Monday after Easter to stock up on 1/2 price goodies! Missed my chance, darn it, we could have loaded up the bowls in the con suite with it!

More book news > got the galley proof copy of Archmage today, so I can look through it and try to catch any bloopers. Still in plenty of time for the Gathering. I can hardly wait!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, April 26, 2001 01:03:36 PM
IP: 18-098.075.popsite.net

Hi!!!! Happy B-Day to me!!!! *grinz*
I feel so old! hehehe not realy, I secreatly stayed 17 and will do so forever ;P But Shhhhh! Dont tell anyone guys! :P

Josh> <<In a few years I'll be a wealthy pig with a fat paycheck any on my way to an early retirement.>> lol OK, whats your plan, besides world domination that is ;) <<It was a JOKE>> lol I figured as much!<> O.o...eh...ok, if you say so! :P

Lady Mystic> <<I'm reminded of the women on those talk shows who dress, to put it politely, in barely-there clothing 24/7.>> eh, yeah, thats a little extreem. Oh well, insanity is the spice of life, no? ;P Oh, and thanx for the Happy B-Day wishes! ^_^

Gside> <<Grey's Anatomy>>....wassat?! <<Nor have you seen the works of the likes of my brother?>> No I have not. is it realy that scary and cruel, or psycadelic wierd stuff? Cuz theres a diference!

Dreamie> <<Happy 20th!! >> Thanx!!! *dances about* :) <> lol I dont like belts, dont wear them, I'm fortunate enough to have my godmother, she sews, so she fixes 'em up for me <<Not that I ever wear them correctly.>> lol correctness aside, I just dont like to parade my undies about in public! Well not unconciously at least! :P <<Winterwold>> Gah!!! I WROTE that?!!?!?!? Oh geez! See!!! I wasnt kidding 'bout the Typo Queen! LOL!

Well, gotta go! I'll see ya guys!!!! *HUGZ all and prances on out*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Thursday, April 26, 2001 10:29:41 AM
IP: 136.145.83.178

Trying a new image for once (sticking with the Egyptian motif, tho).

****BUFFY STUFF****

Best lines - "hobbits with leprosy", Bob Barker and TPIR, and of course Tara's slightly out of character "She's nuts!" (what can I say, her lines are always my favorite).

Glory once again proving that just because you're a god doesn't mean you know everything. And whatever happened to Dreg, her first minion, the one who popped up in the backseat of Ben's car? Guess Jinxy one-upped him.

You just knew it was Buffy pretending to be the robot, but the final scene was still great. Not b/c they kissed (I'm not one of those people who believe Buffy and Spike getting involved is a good thing), but b/c for once we see Buffy taking the subtle approach. Too often with characters like Faith and Spike she just gets so irrational.

The preview shows the Knights finally return (this show is practically being overrun by fanatical sects) and Glory beating up Willow. Uh-oh. Tara's in trouble *heart constricts painfully*

Hey, since when did the First Slayer talk so well?

****END BUFFY STUFF**** (I havent watched all of Angel yet, but the picture on Nathan Reed's desk creeped the hell out of me. His son looks like Wednesday Addams. Kinda weird when you consider Gerry Becker played a lawyer several times on Ally McBeal and ran a mens' group for sensitivity training.)

Bishansky: <my new hero> What took you so long? *g*

lain: <JERKFACE> Ohhh-kaaay *voice trembles as he speaks* I'll just be hiding now.

Imzadi: <CARY ELWES> I always liked in Robin Hood when the Sheriff hits with a glove and Cary responds by clocking him with an iron gauntlet. And who could forget "Hey Abbott!" *giggles hysterically* <Pinky and the Brain> "What are you doing tonight?" "The same thing we do every night, Pinky." "What?" "Never mind." - Batman and Barbara Gordon, _New Adventures of Batman & Superman_

XenaTrek: <favorite scene> You know you're right, that IS a really great scene. How about "You have six fingers on your right hand. Someone is looking for you." Oooh, chills.

Crzy: Too bad I can't be there. It sounds like a blast. Dang it, how come all Philly gets is the stupid Republican National Convention? And I hate Republicans! (Which is why Philadelphia is a good place to live - very few Republicans.) :D

Sincerely, Allaine
"I have no gate key."
"Fezik, tear his arms off."
"Oh you mean this gate key."

Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, PA
Thursday, April 26, 2001 08:18:01 AM
IP: 64.80.115.200

*Warpmind enters, carrying a big, blunted club, which he promptly uses to sever various of DC's extremities.*
Well, today, we had kinfolk visiting. Kinfolk with kids. Kids who accidentally wiped the ENTIRE "My Documents" folder... Murder is an ugly word. But damn, how tempting... there were games there that I had spent the better part of the weekend downloading. I'm VERY relieved my music files and some RPGMaker related stuff was stored elsewhere... but Christine, I've now got no way to finish that story in time for Sabledrake. :(

Well, that's all I needed to vent about. Excuse me, I have to prune my family tree... *Heads out with a large machete and a chainsaw.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, April 26, 2001 08:02:35 AM
IP: mp-217-205-74.daxnet.no

heya, guys! quickly passing by before my interview for a job.
wish me luck!

RPG> email me at the adress mentionned bellow, please. or icq me at 20713180

Jannie> if you read this, check your usa account *w* I miss ya!

gotta go! But I'll be back! (dixit Arnold S.)
Denis (formerly known as wyrmwolf) - [malkavien@lft.be]
Thursday, April 26, 2001 06:04:33 AM
IP: 213.251.130.57

*Warpmind slithers about, pondering evil misdeeds.*
Hi, guys. Don't mind me, just villaining about here... ;)

Peter: You're on the right track there, at least... next revision will be a LOT tougher.

Lain: *Offers a large mug of hot chocolate.* Something'll come along, Lain... and, heh, the code *was* pretty obvious... 5 minutes? That's pretty okay. ;)

Dreamie: SiMnHH! SiPCa FC VB KBB MnPSc CFArKCa! };) (NeScKCa NaFBeBeSiN.) }:)

Gside: No bet, amigo. I've read the Jay Omega books - I'm pretty much forewarned. ;) *Mumbles something about making friends - Necromancer-style* Click my link to see how necromancers make friends, gang. };)

Ravyn: *Chuckle* Fuuuuun. :)

Josh: *Your* future world government? Tsk, you're WAY too late for that anyway. };)

Well, that's about it. Later, bunch.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, April 26, 2001 03:11:58 AM
IP: mp-217-239-115.daxnet.no

Hi Everyone;

Yes I am still alive.

No I don't have time to say anything tonight...no make that this morning.

Goodnight.
Yggdrasil - [eng050599@hotmail.com]
Ontario, Canada
Thursday, April 26, 2001 12:36:08 AM
IP: proxy1-external.ktchnr1.on.home.com

*steps in*

slow day, huh? *shrugs*
*glances around*
*hops up onto a table, sings "the gambler" at the top of her lungs while doing all the little dance-ish type moves that go with the lyrics.*

*bows, springs to the fabric gate, and vanishes. ;) *
Lynati Kshudra
Thursday, April 26, 2001 12:23:37 AM
IP: 207.94.232.254

Hi! I heard Denis aka Wyrmowolf is coming here. If you are Denis aka Wyrmowolf or you know his e-mail, please contact me ;) Thank you.
RPG
Thursday, April 26, 2001 12:06:23 AM
IP: atm1-0-core.artcom.pl

I know many people are going to disagree with me here, but I don't care ;)

I finally got to see "That's My Bush" on Comedy Central for the first time this evening. This show is f--king hillarious. It makes Bush's victory in the last election all worth it, though I'm sure an Al Gore show would have been just as funny given the talent behind this show. It's brilliant.

It's stupid, it's immature, it's crude, it's crap. But hey, I am enjoying it for what it is, a nice guilty pleasure. A very good parody. Hell, I'm willing to put up with Bush in the White House for two terms if we get eight years of this show, and the quality stays consistent.

The best crap anyone can ask for :). If I ever become President, I hope I get parodied like this.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 07:48:25 PM
IP: dialin-609-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

sonova b*tch! Those lyrics should have the word "off", not "of"
Josh again
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 05:37:21 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-236.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

::walks in, singing (badly, cuz I'm fscking tone deaf)::

--put to bed the sun and sister moon, I'll be hiding in your dirty room. Go there seeking only what I need, lying down we'll stay there till we bleed, its for sure. Let me keep you in this place, you'll be better of this way. I will keep you warm and safe, you'll be better of this way.--

8 hours of sleep later, I'm ready for my noon physics discussion. Oh, the joys of college are few but SO DAMN RICH.

Today was beautiful, and I even saw a cute chick!

Warpmind: <<sweetheart with drawl>>: LOL. <<You deem it a sign of the upcoming apocalypse>>: Actually, no. My future world council, consisting of my friends who are smarter than me in various areas, have decided that it would be best if I selected the next ruler of the world from existing leaders rather than even attempt to create an heir, for the reasons mentioned earlier.

Decryption: Okay, I'm a putz. I didn't see it, and I should have. I've failed my Number Theory teacher. David Hammett, wherever you are, I'm sorry.

Gunjack: I can't believe you said that about Lyn. I can only hope you were misinterpreted.

Kit: <<you count sex as a physical activity?>>: No. I define physical activity as "anything I'd rather not be doing that involves my body parts moving and/or applying force in excess of 20 pounds. Therefore, homework is not physical activity (even though I'd rather not be doing it), but most sports are. <<massages>>: No problem. That's an important one.

Kyryn: <<It sits on the northern edge of south central LA>>: That's the ghetto. Sorry to disappoint. If I were one of those Alpha Phi sluts, I'd be worried.

XenaTrek: USC does have an amazing film school, from what I hear. <<little black book>>: Is that like Heidi Fliesch 's(sp?) little black book?

CARY ELWES RULES! Anyone see Pentagon Wars on HBO?

DPH: <<pilot episode>>: Want me to tell you what happens? <<last and only person>>: WHAT!? I knew what SBC stands for! I just didn't say anything cuz its more fun to mock "conservatives" in general than any particular denomination.

Lain: <<I'm beat>>: NO! You can't give up, Lain. Whatever happened to your army plans? <<if i still have ANY bits of myself left>>: If you don't, please let me know before I come up. I generally don't visit shells.

Dreamie: <<It's a beautiful sunny day!>>: Whoa! Here too! <>: hehe...bet you do. <>: Get in line. <>: Sorry, Dreamie, I don't dance. Hate to spoil yer fun 8-). <<a normal pair of jeans I don't have to wear a belt>>: I always have to wear belts cuz my waist is too damn small. <<Chinese restaurants>>: Hmmm, I have my favorites, but I dunno if they're what you're looking for. <<Yet never a duct>>: Well, if you can't duct it, f*ck it.

Hey Winterwolf! You're gonna become an icon!

Gside: <<cold girl on a warm night>>: Sick, dude. Just sick. <<negative distance works quite well>>: Putting negative distance between yourself and a person you're attracted to rules. <<JoBeth>>: Who? <<So the patches don't stand out>>: Whoa. They think of everything in the future. Its amazing that our current shuttles are white...silly NASA people. <<I've already forgotten>>: LOL.

Ravyn: <<they're making me take a civil engineering class>>: The department title of the class doesn't tell you much about the material in it. You NEED to know statics if you're a CivE or MechE. But they call it civil engineering cuz its easiest to apply it to buildings. <<they want me to be "well rounded">>: After you become well-rounded, you'll be able to take physics classes that assume you are a sphere, because you will be ;-). <>: No, you're confused yourself with me again. Hope Coyote doesn't make the same mistake 8-)

Pinky, you have the reasoning skills of a burlap sack.
-The Brain, "Pinky and the Brain"

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 05:36:20 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-236.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Josh> Wow, you took the same classes? That sure is weird. ;) The thing that scares me is that I'm a *mechanical* engineer, and they're making me take a civil engineering class in the fall and an electrical engineering class in the spring. I guess they want me to be "well rounded" or something. Oh, well. ;)
<<Kit's right>> Thanks. I'll try my best. :)
<<For everyone else, its a sign of the apocalypse because it means I might BREED>> Yeah, that's EXACTLY right! ;) Seriously, though, I think if I were ever to breed, that would be the coming of Armageddon. ;)

Warpmind> Actually, I've got the Sweetheart Withdrawl, and Coyote's got the Sweetheart With Drawl, since every once in a while I've been told I can have a bit of an accent...;)
Ravyn
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 04:32:22 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Lady Mystic> <<In a good way or bad way?>>: Most definately a bad way. Don't ask me how I know.
<<I'd be mad at him if he spent the money on me>>: That's what you say, but wouldn't it be flattering?
<<Can you email it to me then?>>: I tried responding to fire Storm's hair drier email, but it didn't seem to like that, so I sent another one to your address.
<<didn't you used to contribute more to major discussions?>>: Maybe, but I can't really think of any at this time.
<<Which board?>>: One associated with a Mousse and Shampoo fic archive. If you really want to see it, it's at http://www.angelfire.com/md/MousseShampoo/

Ravyn> <>: Better than a combination engineer, computer scientist, linguist.

JLA> <<although LIVE Nude girls is MUCH preferable to DEAD ones>>: But there's nothing quite like a cold girl on a warm night.

Hyperion> <>: Where'd we put the wookie's walker? Over the wookie, I think.

Fire Storm> <<there was a breach in the warp core, but some duct tape patched that right up>>: I'm sure Scotty had a good couple gross close at hand at all times. And that's not counting his reserve in storage.
<<Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer!>>: negative distance works quite well, I hear.
<<She just can't understand why you would be talking about a Wang like that>>: Why? Because it is a wang. That is all that should need be said.

Sev. Jr.> <<But he had help. From a tiger>>: would that be a cloaking tiger to not have appeared on the film?
<<Fetish, thy name is costume>>: Japanese schoolgirl vs. Catholic schoolirl. Discuss.

Imzadi> <<LA, home of the female airhead>>: A.K.A. JoBeth.
<<Cuz she seemed pretty offended when *I* said them>>: He has the benifit of being there to explain in real time the nature of the joke.
<>: Absolutely. Why else do you think their ships are grey? So the patches don't stand out.
<<Only one of a MILLION or so>>: But it is one of the more illustrative one. Many of the others actually reqauire you to be one before you recognize it.

Warpmind> code:Well, it's not rot13.
<>: Very much so.
<<question is how>>: I'm willing to bet it will come very easily at the Gathering.
<<thanks to your constant nagging about character classes>>: It's not nagging. I'm just rooting for my boys. Mages are the engineers of the adventuring era.
<<I've returned to my original character class - the Necromancer>>: Woot. Enjoy the dark power.

Spacebabie> <<Son, you got a panty on your head>>: Raising Arizona. While hijacking a truck.

Hmm. In '79, Louisianna gubernatorial candidate Luther D. Knox changed his name to "None of the above" just before election day.
And it would be very bad if I had parthenophobia.

Peter> <<Unfortunatly I don't have a periodic table of elements handy>>: Why the heck didn't I see that? And there is always http://www.webelements.com/ Let's see. 20,8,9,19;9,19;1;3,15,4,5,4;13,5,19,19,1,7,5
3,1,14;25,15,21;3,18,1,3,11;20,8,5;3,15,4,5
20,8,5;3,15,4,5;9,19;16,5,18,9,15,4,9,3
That would make it: This is a coded message. Can you crack the code? The code is periodic.
I'd like to claim that I worked it out before Dreamie posted, and I don't feel like going at hers.

Dreamie> <>: But that's no fun. I find it better to let it run free.
<<Remember you said that>>: I've already forgotten what the heck I was talking about.

And because I was feeling slightly guilty over the recent deaths in my mp3s, you now get I Like Chinese by Monty Python. Wo ai Chungarung (or however it's supposed to be spelled).

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 03:26:10 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

:::hops in:::
Hey all! It's a beautiful sunny day! :D

Gside:<<O.o> Just my imagination getting the better of me.>> I might have a studded collar you can tie that thing down with.
<<<Depends what name best suits the child>How can you tell that early?>> You can't... but no one ever said you *have* to have a name right when they make their arrival. (i.e. "Aw.... s/he looks like a <enter appropriate name here>") ^_~
<<Then can I?> If you want to. >> Remember you said that.

Imzadi: <<You want to be fat and sh!t all over the place? Okay...>> No I just want to follow your car after a wash. <<Titania icon>> No problem. <<I'm not touching THAT one with a 10-foot pole. >> eeeeeeeh.... ok nevermind. I'm not going there. :::chuckles:::

Winterwolf:<<<tickle him blue> **chuckles nervously** Why do I get the feeling I�m in for it at the Gathering? >> Oh gee, I can't imagine why.....:::evil grin and stretches out tickling fingers::: Who'll volunteer to hold him down? Oh happy birthday to you Sister! ^_^ <<Thank you for this awesome work!>> You're welcome! It's a great character... and I had *no idea* I could draw furries! O.o

SJ:<<I'm interested in a naughty, adult Pee Wee movie. >> Somehow... I knew this day would come.

Stephen:<<Hi there! >> Howdy! ^_^

Niamhgold:<<But I must say, your Photoshop skills are superb.>> Eh... they need and will be improved...<<I'm not that great in digital media, wish someone would teach me>> Well you know who I go to when I have a photoshop question? :::points at Winterwolf:::

Welcome Siofra!

Christine: <<Peeps>> Yay! I love peeps! ^_^ If someone gives me peeps, dark chocolate and Robin Eggs I'll love them forever :::laughs:::

Rayvn:<<I'm heading to the Gathering this year>> WHOO! Ravyn and Coyote at the Gathering! :D You know... the way this is going we'll have to set up a cuddling room ^_~ See you in LA! <<Dance requests>> Well I know who *I'm* dancing with........ <<**Ravyn comes in, whistling happily and grinning** >> I know that feeling! ^_^ <<especially when the other night, we had a conversation using very few words, since we already knew what the other was thinking...but we were on IM!!!! Gah!!! Relationships scare me to death>> I know that feeling too! :::laughs::: Though change the last sentence to "Makes me love him more every day."

Pistoff:<<strange music video thingy>> All I have to say is...... O.o

Cali:Happy 20th!! <<that hour glass figure is so over-rated, and a pain to buy jeans if your "blessed" with it>> Blessed....yeah sure.... I would like to find a normal pair of jeans I don't have to wear a belt with in order to wear correctly. Not that I ever wear them correctly... ^_~ <<Winterwold>> All hail the queen of typos!! :::bows accordingly and grovels:::

Lynati: <<spent from 1 to 9 pm strait doing artwork>> I'll switch you!!! ^_^

Emambu: :::waves::: ^_^ And condolences on the choir cancellations.

<<Gathering food>> Well for what it's worth (which probably isn't much...) I thought last Gathering's banquet food was very good. And unrelated since it's only served at lunch: Hey Imzadi or anyone around the LA area, are you aware of any Dim Sum serving Chinese restaurants near the Sheraton? And if not, anyone have directions to Chinatown? ^_~

<<Duct Tape IS the force: it has a light side, a dark side, and holds the universe together!>> Yet never a duct.

Tailweaver:<<My fiancee Jenn was on Jeopardy! today and WON! >> Congrats to her!! ^_^

Warpmind:
"CaOFK FK H LiPBeBBe AlBKKHNB."
~~This is a coded message.~~
"LiHSi MnPSc LiArHLiNa CaOB LiPBeB?"
~~Can you crack the code?"~~
"CaOB LiPBeB FK SBArFPBeFLi."
~~The code is periodic.~~

Hey Warps...... "MnPSc HSiBe MgMnSiHCaF HArB KP LiScCaB CaPNBCaOBAr! KBB MnPSc HCa CaOB NHCaOBArFSiN!!"

<<love and activities>> I see doing anything with your "SO" as an activity of love. Whether it be intellectual sharing, going out, or staying in ^_~

That's all for now!
Toodles! ^_^
Dreamie
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 01:21:02 PM
IP: acb72e5f.ipt.aol.com

*lain slinks in, head bowed*

well thats it guys. im beat. i cant win here, no matter what i do.
i dont have any money to get out of here. i can get a job but my father is firm on the fact that im not allowed to use either of his cars. i live out in the country and the only jobs there are are at least half an hours DRIVE away. so i could always bike it...
there isnt really any point left in fighting anymore.
yes guys i lost. end of story. it was rather nice while it lasted..
and yes, im giving up. i dont think i even care all that much anymore. so all of you who were saying "lain is all talk, shell never DO anything" can get all smug cos, of course, you were right. im just a coward at heart.

imzy>> yeah anytime you want to come this summer is fine. i will be at school the whole time, you know, doing my art degree.. and, if i still have ANY bits of myself left by the time you get here, i can do art for you, if you want.

SJ>> has anyone mentioned to you lately that youre a big, freakin, colossal JERKFACE?? just thought id remind you in case youd forgotten.....

warpmind>> yes, i noticed, that first statement was.. rather obvious... yes in order to think that it WAS obvious i would have to have accomplished crackage and... that code is the WORST pun i have EVER seen in my life, i think i ought to SMACK you.. ; )... i figured it in.. what.. 5 minutes? thats from the "fine arts" major... riiiiiiiiiight... are we sensing something wrong here?

*grumbles and slinks defeatedly out*
lain "beaten and bowed" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
with no hope of escape..
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:35:52 AM
IP: ttyb1e.ptbo.igs.net

Gleeb> "Unions" was the season finale. It says so on the Current Episode page.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:32:58 AM
IP: dialin-613-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Hi again everyone! I love Mandy Patakin.. I have a couple of his CDs. He's done some great stuff on Broadway. But mainly why I'm here is to find out if anyone knows when the next Gargoyles ep is going to be posted.. it's been on Unions for like, over two weeks I think. Anyone know what the delay is?
Gleeb - [hocoz@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:01:13 AM
IP: cx800287-a.dnpt1.occa.home.com

Lady Mystic - The last and only person to figure out what SBC was was Green Baron. SBC. SBC stands for Southern Baptist Convention. Conservative implies which side I am on.

Generally, I get sinus infection at least once every 2-3 years.

Imzadi - For some reason, I kept missing the 'Pilot' episode of the Pretender.

**CR ANNOUNCEMENT**
I maybe switching to lurker mode to get my PC ready by Saturday to set up at home. Currently, I am driving around trying to locate an internal LS20 in stock in home town. I've been to every place but 2 and Office Depot had more computer inventory in stock that the rest of the places I visited COMBINED. I think I could put all the computer inventory in the computer stories I visited into the room I am right now and still have any easy time walking around. Anyway, besides locating and purchasing an LS120 I have to install software, which should take 1 to 2 hours max. More stuff later.
**END CR ANNOUNCEMENT**
*lurking and cloaking device ENGAGED*
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:00:59 AM
IP: max1-52.cwy.cei.net

Sorry for the multiple posts, I don't have the movie nor memorized the characters. It wasn't Cary Elwes, it was Mandy Patinkin. Speaking of Mandy, one of my interpreters from college got to work w/ Mandy for awhile, whenever he was giving a lecture or a presentation, she's there to interpret in case there were individuals w/ deafness or hearing impairment in the audience.
XenaTrek
Orlando, FL, USA
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 08:48:03 AM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

Here's the Princess Bride Quote I was talking about:

[Fencing]
Inigo Montoya: You are wonderful!
Man in Black: Thank you; I've worked hard to become so.
Inigo Montoya: I admit it, you are better than I am.
Man in Black: Then why are you smiling?
Inigo Montoya: Because I know something you don't know.
Man in Black: And what is that?
Inigo Montoya: I... am not left-handed!
[Moves his sword to his right hand and gains an advantage]
Man in Black: You are amazing!
Inigo Montoya: I ought to be, after 20 years.
Man in Black: Oh, there's something I ought to tell you.
Inigo Montoya: Tell me.
Man in Black: I'm not left-handed either.
[Moves his sword to his right hand and regains his advantage]
XenaTrek
Orlando, FL, USA
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 08:45:05 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

Josh & Kyryn > Re: Opinions of USC/CalArts >> Thanks for your opinions, tho I don't know much about the schools other than their 'superior' Filmmaking and Computer Animation programs. I do have a list of pros and cons about them but never having been to LA, I have no idea what to expect. (Incidently, I've heard more negative things about LA than the positive ones). I was in one of the downtown sections of San Francisco in Dec of 1998. Its a great area, and look forward to returning some day. Maybe I'll get to see the rest of SF in the process.

Spacebabie > Re: Prince Bride >> Thanks for reminding me, I need to pick up a DVD copy to add to my library. My favorite lines from the movie is where Carl Ewens (sp?) was talking to his opponent and revealing that he isn't really right handed, but left handed and vice versa.

Re: Buffy and Angel >> Thank goodness I taped it. I tried to watch it, but had way too much fun chatting w/ Ravyn and LM that I didn't want to sign off. From what I did manage to see, I gather its a 'sit down and pay attention' kind of episode. The bits I saw didn't make much sense. Tho I did get a kick out of the Buffybot. And SMG's line, "You guys couldnt' tell me apart from a robot?"

Rav and LM >> It was great causing 'trouble' w/ you guys last night. We'll have to do it again soon. *winks* (LM -- I am still curious if you have passed along my comment about chatting w/ you verse FS :oP ).

Coyote >> Maybe you should send me your weekly schedule. You're emails keep showing up at odd times. :oP Seriously tho, I rather have you answer the phone than getting your poor mother answer it since her voice has not quite return. Oh, your cold must be spreading like wildfire, one of my supervisors and one of my friends sound just like you at the moment. *bear hugs* (Hope I don't sick... eek!)

Crzy: >> Hey yourself. I've replied back to Patrick. Hopefully you guys do have an itenary or something. I also need to check w/ a few people to see what they are doing and when. Isn't the Airport Hilton next to LAX? There's where the annually ST Grand Slam is held, or at least it usually is. Tho I don't doubt its incredibly expensive.

Ravyn: > Re: (Its the sum of your quote) One reason to go to the Gathering is to meet people >> Absolutely. Old friends and new friends.

*opens a little black book* According to my notes from last year's gathering, a few of you owe me a 'date'. (Actually a little more of your time to hang out since we couldn't get together much). You guys should know who you are. :oP As for the new faces, we'll have to hang out as well.

Thats all for now, I'm sure I'm missing a few replies. Gotta run. Later.
XenaTrek - [XenaTrek@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 08:35:31 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

****Kyryn ducks back in.****

BTW, folks, gargs got a nod in Katherine Kurtz's latest book, "St. Patrick's Gargoyle" : "He did seem to recall that a few years back, gargoyles had briefly captured popular imagination by means of a Disney film and a children's animated TV series -- he definitely remembered action figures and lunchboxes and stuffed toys underfoot among his grandsons' boyhood clutter -- but surely that didn't qualify as proof of their existence outside such fantasies."

Later, All!

****Kyryn disappears.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 07:54:10 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

****Kyryn ducks into the room for a moment.****

Taleweaver> Congrats to Jenn for winning on Jeopardy! Also congrats to you for having such a wonderful fiance and not being envious that she won when you didn't.

Josh><<I'm from LA, home of the female airhead.>> I'll agree with that. Of course, that's one of the many reasons that, after having grown up in LA, I moved to Texas eleven years ago and haven't really looked back. BTW, USC is not in the ghetto. It sits on the northern edge of south central LA. Now, this doesn't necessarily mean that it's the safest area of the world, but I did have to say something in defense of my alma mater.

SJ> Very cool orc! Now I'm really looking forward to this movie. It appears that they've actually gone with the original idea that the orcs come from elves who were twisted by Morgoth. I actually like this image better than the one that we've gotten from the animated version of the Hobbit over the years.

Later, All!

****Kyryn ducks out of the room and heads back to work.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 07:18:10 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Warpmind><coded messages>Unfortunatly I don't have a periodic table of elements handy :)

I'm registering for 4th year courses this afternoon, and as of right now I have yet to schedule the courses I've picked. Given that I'm moving tommorrow this means I'll be quite busy today. In other education related news, I've completed Calculus IV and Introduction to Probability with A's and Software Engineering with an A-. Hopefully I've performed similarly in Artificial Intelligance, which gives me a lowest mark of B+ for the whole year, a considerable improvement over last year (dang arts requirements).
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 07:06:53 AM
IP: dial-168.ocis.net

Just one final tommorow.

Yes the Quote was an easy one, but thePrincess Bride is one of my favorite movies. The next one will be a little tougher.

SPOILERS!!!!!!!
Buffy
Ok I couldn't stop luaghing at the Buffybot. I also liked when The real Buffy pretended to be the Buffybot. Poor Spike getting beat up like that. ans I also enjoyed the parts where he was insulting Glory
also laughed at the Bob Barker part. Buffy's quest was coll and I liked how she was concerned about her feelings.
What I didn't like was another reminder about Willow's new lifestyle. OK We get the picture can we move on?

ANGEL
I loved this ep. Lindsey shirtless, Lindsey playing guitar, Lindsey shirtless, Lindsey turning good...for good this time, Lindsey's singing Lindsey shirtless, Lindsey freaking people with his hand and did I mention Lindsey shirtless. Dang I'm gonna miss him. Also good to see Angel's concern over Cordelia and I'm glad this wasnt a typical new hand=evil hand type of episode.
ENd Spoilers

Now for a new quote to guess.
"Son, you got a panty on your head."
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 07:02:48 AM
IP: user-37kap2a.dialup.mindspring.com

SJ: Cool Orc photo, thanks for posting it. <bi Canadian girlfriend> Should have suspected that was a joke. :(

Imzadi: Do you count sex as a physical activity? I do. Thanks for the reminder about massages.
Kit
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 06:52:35 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.120.dlls.grid.net

*Warpmind enters, looking rather... villainous.*
Hello, everyone... it's Decryption Time! I've devised some coded messages for you to test your wits against... I crafted them to test the brightest minds of the world. Of course, given my current situation, I'll have to settle for you guys. };) The coded messages are:
"CaOFK FK H LiPBeBBe AlBKKHNB."
"LiHSi MnPSc LiArHLiNa CaOB LiPBeB?"
"CaOB LiPBeB FK SBArFPBeFLi."
Enjoy... now, for replies. }:)

Allaine: I didn't get Spacebabie's quote. Don't worry too much, though - Gunjack Valentine explained it to me later. (I gotta get to see that movie, I guess... question is how...)

Lynati: Not until the weekend? *Sigh* *Snuggle* Oh, well... I'll probably survive... somehow...

Oh, and while at it... Gunjack Valentine, if you EVER say that Lynati looks like the Godfather again, rest assured, you will have a LOT more to worry about that frozen mackerels.

Revel: Nyaaa. ;)

Ravyn: Sweetheart Withdrawal, or Sweetheart With Drawl? };) (Or is it both?)

Taleweaver: Well, congrats!!! And bon voyage! :D

Fire Storm: Ah, so you actually have an EXCUSE! };)

Christine: Congrats on the great progress, and may you have some minutes for calm breathing out of every hour of the day! :)

Gside: You know, thanks to your constant nagging about character classes, I've returned to my original character class - the Necromancer. Going well, so far. Heck, I'm even strategically avoiding the use of Waypoints, just to get to build a little extra experience on the way through the chapters. };) (And my skeletons are getting tough, too...)

Josh: You deem it a sign of the upcoming apocalypse that you might breed? Dude, you do NOT want to consider the implications should *I* breed... *Snuggles up to Lynati* Of course, that's still at least a couple years away, I should imagine...

Well, that is the end of the post... Later, gang... and try to crack those codes, huh? }:)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 06:46:25 AM
IP: mp-217-204-182.daxnet.no

Buffy and Angel thoughts (Spoilers included)

*** Warning Spoilers ***
The things I liked were Buffy's concerns. It was very in keeping with Buffy trying to learn more about her Slayer side. I would have liked to seen more of that, the robo-Buffy story was funny, but not funny enough to be a plot A. What sort of squashed it for me was the fact that with the other fembot, they spotted it in 5 minutes, and here it took half the show. Granted it's Buffy, but how many of the Scoobies have had dopplegangers. I was expecting them to get hip quicker.

Spike> Yeah, I'll miss Big Bad. But if he keeps insulting Glory like the old Spike, I'll be a happy camper.

Angel> Good things are the body parts cellar and enchanting a jury. (I always wondered how big corporations got away with that) The 48 hrs bit with Angel and Lindsey started out strong, but petered out.

Two major plot points. I don't think the Lindsey-Darla was ever resolved.Taking off like that leaves it dangling, but I never cared which way that went. The other thing, why did the hand kill the father. Wouldn't the other hand try and kill Lindsey?

A good outing for both.

End of Spoilers
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 04:56:08 AM
IP: cbl064.pool008.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

* BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS *

BUFFY: So we actually get to see the "Buffy-bot" in action. I've got to admit, the results of that one were funny - especially the way that it interacted with Buffy's friends (and couldn't even pronounce Giles's name properly). On the serious level, I liked Buffy's concern over whether she might be getting too hardened by her Slayer's role. I wonder what the "gift of death" part means, but I suppose that we'll find out later. Spike's definitely getting more sympathetic (in that he actually does refuse to tell Glory about Dawn even after being tortured); like Bishansky, I'll probably miss the old Spike a bit, but the new one has his own share of interest.

Incidentally, there was a bit of Tolkien-influence here; first, Xander describes Glory's minions as looking like "hobbits with leprosy", and then Glory, when interrogating Spike, keeps on using the word "precious", almost hissing it Gollum-style.

ANGEL: Quite a good one as well; I've got to admit, Lindsay surprised me with the revelation that he was a very good guitar player. (You think you know a guy....) Also, a bit of ominousness with the after-effects for Cordelia of those visions; I hope that we'll be seeing more of that developed in episodes to come. But the really memorable part has to be Lindsay's "evil hand" scene in the board meeting at the end; does he know how to freak people out, or what? All in all, I quite liked this episode.

* SPOILERS END *

I will admit, I still find it a pity that "Buffy" is moving to UPN, even after all is said and done, because of this reason: UPN doesn't show here in St. Louis. And it doesn't look as if that'll be changing any time soon, either. Oh, well, I suppose that I may be able to find out some of the basics from reading reviews of next season's episodes here, but it won't be quite the same.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn@ninenet.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 03:51:54 AM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup199.dialsprint.net

...and it was such a good day, too!

Oh my god Jessica Alba is SOOOOO hot. I just watched Dark Angel, can ya tell?

Icon Project: A bunch of new icons, mostly courtesy of Dreamie (thanks babe, love ya!). Everyone go check them out by clicking on my name!

HEY ARTISTS: If you're gonna be at gathering, how much do you charge for commissions? In ink? In photoshop? I'm thinking it might be a fun way to spend money at gathering.

Gathering transportation: Greg was the first person to contact me with flight arrival time, so he gets first dibs on transportation, assuming I decided to offer some. Greg is landing at LAX on friday of the gathering at 1148AM, which means that's when I'll be at LAX. So if anyone ELSE is planning on flying into LAX (and if your smart you'll fly in Burbank), I can give you a ride if you arrive around that time (and it'll save Greg a few bucks off the cost of my tank).

Rides back to airports: I've been told there's a shuttle from the Sheraton to LAX.

Lady Mystic: <<Are you talking from personal experience?>>: I'm from LA, home of the female airhead. <<CR Information is loosely connected to the stories>>: So is the CR itself. I think that the CR link on the stories page should lead to the info page, from which the actual CR can be accessed. <<Who do you consider to be an engineer>>: The people you just mentioned. But I'm talking about the kind of engineering with MATH in it. "Sanitation Engineers" are not worthy of their title. <<In general, keep it PG-13 or tamer>>: Yes, I've read the rules. Rules and reality, however, are two very different things. <<cheats, creeps, alcoholics, divorcees, philanderers and sex addicts>>: My kinda people.

Speaking of my kind of people, who's up for an Rocky Horror Picture Show in Santa Monica the saturday night of Gathering? Or is there some event/party planned I don't know about and probably should.

Ravyn: <<your classes>>: Whoa. Thats scary, just I just took all that stuff last semester (except the history stuff, which I tested out of in high school). <<a sick engineer mutated with a history major>>: That mutation would not hold. The engineer genes would reject the history genes and would die immediately. <<from Kit: don't let fear destroy it>>: Kit's right.

Doug: <<other fun things to do with women>>: Most of which have the ulterior motive of sex at some unforseeable date in the future. But kissing and making out I'm counting as sex, even if it doesn't lead to actual sex. "sex" is short for "sexual activites". Also, most of those things sound like physical activites, and therefore are NOT fun things for me to do with women.

Doug and Kit: you guys forgot trading massages! That would be at the top of my list. And since you read my fic, I take it as a personal insult that you did not include it. j/k 8-)

It seems to me that a lot of people need to understand rhetoric a bit better. When I post a smart assed comment, rhetorical question, or chauvenistic remark, I am not expecting, nor do I want to read, a thought-out response to it. If you don't like the comments, that's fine. If you want to post why I'm a jerk (which might be seen as flame war material and thus is prohibited), feel free to email me and say so (ah, the joys of mail filters). I'm not stupid. I am, in fact, quite bright (and I can even rhyme!). I know there are other things to do with women besides sex. I know FS is a gentleman (or at least LM thinks he is). I know there are smart women out there (I met one once, so that proves it!). My comments on these subjects are JOKES. Nothing more. If you don't like my sense of humor, don't read my posts or don't respond to them.

Thinking alike with your SO: I always seem to know what my girlfriend is thinking (when I have one), and she seems to know what I am thinking. But I've never dated a girl that actually thinks like me...that would be really nice. For me. For everyone else, its a sign of the apocalypse because it means I might BREED.

Crzy: You seem to be trying to drive me and pistoff and anyone else who has a comment about the gathering into a flame war. First, note that I am not in Pistoff's boat of trying to make gathering look bad cuz I don't like the staff. I don't even know you guys, so I have no such intentions. <<valencia, not northridge>>: My bad. <<just trying to start fights for his own jollies>>: What would be the other reasons to start a fight? <>: Not only that, but DWP is not subject to the same rate hikes this summer as the other power companies will have to put up with. JOY! <<subway>>: Ah, yes forgot about that. No, I've been in Berkeley for the last two years, with only the occasional trip home. But the subway in LA is FAR from a central transportation hub. The subway in LA is not nearly as effective as BART or NYC subway or any of the more famous subterranean transit systems. <<"opinions">>: What else could I have, without access to the highly classified Gathering files on your desk? But I've been informed that I'm wrong, so I'll shut up now. I believe you that your intentions are not what pistoff and I suggested. <<LIVE NUDE GIRLS>>: WHERE!? <<LIVE Nude girls is MUCH preferable to DEAD ones>>: Indeed. Since we don't get the sign, will there be live nude girls at the Gathering hotel? Cuz without the sign I don't know where to find 'em! 8-) <<single Gargoyle lovin' women>>: AUCTION! 8-)

Taleweaver: <<hong kong>>: Your fiancee won on Jeopardy! Damn she must be smart! I'm SO jealous, I've never had a girlfriend that smart. That's so cool. Have fun in hong kong!

FS: <<What song is that?>>: The song is Shimmer, one of my favorite songs by Fuel, on the album called Sunburn. Their lyrics are REALLY good. The reason I prefer hard rock and industrial music is that, by far, they have the most meaningful and heartfelt lyrics (assuming you can understand them). <<those people don't report to a credit agency>>: Yes, but the idea being that you use the money from people who don't report to a credit agency to deal with the people who DO. <<My credit is non-existent>>: "Experience is something you don't get until after you need it". Guess the same is true for credit. <<It would have to be at least a 5-point connection, maybe more>>: No problem. I've been backpacking. <>: BOO YAKA.

Hey FS, does LM know you're saying these things? Cuz she seemed pretty offended when *I* said them.

FS More: <<corned beef quantities at Citywalk>>: No idea. I was just illustrating that it was expensive. If you want massive quantities, though a bit pricey, I will take you to Jerry's Deli near the Sheraton. You'll love it. <<some duct tape patched that right up>>: DUH. I wonder if it could fix hull breaches too? <<Thy enemy is women. Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer>>: So if enemy is woman, and keep enemy closer, should I keep women in my bed? Isn't that what the DLD is for? <<no, you can't leave her, for then her revenge will be total and all consuming>>: Like I said, I fear no woman. Hell hath no fury like Josh Pissed Off. Most of the girls learn before they date me that if they fsck with me, it will be their own undoing, not mine. <<grabs the Chinese man>>: LOL.

Gside: <<The difference between ECE and CivE>>: Only one of a MILLION or so. <<Depends on if they're honeydew>>: LOL

The ideal date is someone who parties with you till 4:30 in the morning and then turns into a pizza.
- Van Halen

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, April 25, 2001 01:33:40 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-117.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Rutgers is nearing the close of the semester. That means a whole heck of a lot of work, and very little sleep.

Spacebabie> <<Guess the quote>>: Oh, come on. Princess Bride. It was said six times throughout the movie by Mandy Patinkin. The various responses are "You've done nothing but sword-play?", running, swordfighting, and "Stop saying that!" I think Gunjack and I quoted the majority of the movie a little while ago.

Lain> <<*I* get the CRAPPY sex>>: Be glad you're not me.

Fire Storm> <<Phase 4 and 5 of CHKDSK take so d#$% long?>>: Is that the surface scan? If so, that's because it has to write to every single bit (bit as in one or zero) of your hard drive and make sure it holds the write.
<<the one thing I could never really figure out about threesomes with two women...>>: That's where you work on your oral presentation. That, or one of the women is a hermaphrodite.
<<Someone really should hook her up with someone. I think Mousse>>: It makes the most sense, and it has been done many many times. One of my favorite versions is the one where he got turned into a vampire almost immediately after winning her in battle.
<>: It involved inuring him to the sight of female flesh, an extension of his armory, proper foreplay technique, and a shiatsu point. I found it at some lemon archive. I forget which one.
<<Hope you got the diagram of it>>: I did, and replied. But as I said, I have not yet been taught the uses of diodes.
<<Me make stuff. Me make stuff blow up. Fire good>>: Better.
<>: Did you show any Penny Arcade examples?
<>: But the important part is that you are simultaneously living with a woman you are sleeping with.
<<snow/ice removal with thermite and napalm>>: You'd better make sure you use a thin layer or else it'll easily burn through the driveway.
<<Linux is a little easier to use than Unix and has a graphical shell>>: Just about every Unix variant has a graphical shell or two. X being the most famous.
<<Will they replace the Tape of the mighty Duct?>>: Well, aparently the only application in which it could use improvement is actual sealing of ducts.
<>: I hear some guy named Tolkien has some interesting ideas for designs.
<<She even has pores and little hairs>>: I've heard they rendered 20,000 polygon tear ducts.
<<You talking about New York or Flordia?>>: My first guess would be New York.

Cal�ope> <<And THATs why Cali, after being accepted in the natural sciences dept. did a 180 and changed to a visual arts mayor!>>: I take it you don't have Grey's Anatomy? Nor have you seen the works of the likes of my brother?

Warpmind> <<Who let the barbarians out?>>: No one, if they're smart. I mean, on one hand you have "I like swords" and the two fisted monkey style, while on the other you have "I've got so many doomsday spells, I don't know what to do with them all. Oh wait, yes I do." and "Eat electric death, old man." I know which one I'm going with. You know why? Because I casts the spells that makes the people fall down.

Lynati> <<frozen mackerels down your pants will be the LEAST of your worries>>: **Adjusts glasses** Mackrel jerkey?

Imzadi> <>: The difference between ECE and CivE.
<<spoil all my insulting fun, why don't you!>>: Of course, when you leave such an opening for me to reverse it.
<<you can't even impress old geeks with it>>: Of course not, but new geeks should remain in a state of impressedness.
<<Isn't that considered pornography?>>: Depends on if they're honeydew or not.

Heck with it, I'll get to the rest later. I need sleep.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:54:33 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

<<Robby: SJ-Boy, people really DO take you seriously all the time when you're making a joke, don't they?>>

Boy, you're telling me. It's my own personal cross to bear.

You know, over the last 24 hours, I don't know what I've found more hilarious: the fact that some people actually thought that I had a bisexual girlfriend who lived in Canada (when I said the first time I posted it that it was all a joke! ;) or the fact that people actually thought I was serious in my 'flame war' comment. As I have said numerous times before, don't believe half of what comes out of my mouth, and the other half is suspect. I kid because I love.

Xenatrek and Josh, don't feel bad. You probably didn't get the flame war joke because I don't think either of you have been in here long enough to really understand the oddball humor behind it.

Crzy: Hey, I can do many things, but I can't help your sense of humor. It was obviously a joke, one that I was absolutely sure that Patrick would probably get. Hell, he probably would appreciate the irony of it all.
But for some inexplicable reason, I'm not entirely surprised that you took it the way you did. Seriously, that is.
It was a harmless joke. To quote Doug from last week, "Any negative implications to the post you saw you attached yourself."

Sorry Doug, I'm not dragging you into anything (cause there's nothing to drag you into), I just thought that was a cool line, so I had to remember it.

Fire Storm: We are on the same page.
And I am heavily campaigning for the one party system myself.

Lain: Hey, don't worry---next time I'm with my bisexual girlfriend in Niagra Falls, Ontario, Canada, I'll be sure to invite you in on the fun. :] I'm sure it'd be no different than what went on when Gunjack visited you a few weeks ago. [ducks as lain throws heavy things at him]
Oh, and about your dad, I think he's the one who needs to go back to school-grade school. The depths of his immaturity stagger me. Just remember to follow your own heart, and I think everything will come together for good in the end.

Taleweaver: Wait, your fianc�e was on Jeopardy too??? Your children will have brains the size of Iceland. They'll look like the Brain walking around, nothing but cranium.
Oh my God, I've just discovered your plan! You're plotting to populate the world with mentally superior beings! THEY'LL ENSLAVE THE WORLD! RUN!! RUN FOR SHELTER!!!
Seriously, congrats to Jen on the win. Glad to see she put the smackdown on Alex (I still say he's too smart for his own good�), and while in Hong Kong, be sure to buy all the cool bootleg stuff they got there. They always get the real bad-ass stuff there way before us. I'm betting they probably already have half of our upcoming summer movie blockbusters already for sale.

Gside: Of course Oswald did it!
But he had help. From a tiger.
I can tell no more. I fear for my life.

ENTERTAINMENT STUFF!!!

At this point I'd love to review Buffy and Angel, but I had a class and, in true Mandi fashion, "have not watched the tape yet". Incredibly frustrating.

In comic book movie news, Peyton Reed has been hired to direct the Fantastic Four movie, which is being put on the fast track. Cause Marvel needs the money, damnit.
Peyton's earlier work is the cheerleader comedy film, "Bring It On", which is truly a great piece of work. Not because the movie is so spectacular (although it is amusing), but rather because it possesses copious amounts of Kirsten Dunst and Eliza Dushku in flavoricious cheerleading outfits. Fetish, thy name is costume.

And there are rumors that female wrassler, Playboy model, and possible man-thing Chyna might play Wonder Woman in the upcoming film of the character. This will never happen, I'm sure. Chyna is too�..she's not what Hollywood is looking for in a leading lady. She doesn't look like an anorexic waif ready to pass out from starvation, that is.
I'm all for it, though. I say you stick Triple H and "Commissioner" Mick Foley in there, and there will be asses in the seat!!!

Random Buffy/Angel bits: Tara lovers, bad news-according to TV Guide, sometime in the next couple of episodes, Glory gives that wacky wiccan the old brain drain. It's eggplant time.
On Angel, we get to see the Host's home dimension, when Cordelia gets trapped there. There's supposedly a funny scene where we get to see one of the Host's relatives, and learn his real name (and it's a mouthful!).

And for those who didn't hear, Elisabeth Rohm, the lovely Kate Lockley on Angel, will be taking over for Angie Harmon as assistant D.A. on NBC's Law and Order. It's the big time for her! Unfortunately, this casts doubts as to whether she'll guest star on Angel anymore�

And finally, click on my name to see a pic of an Orc from the LOTR movie! God, I can't wait till this flick hits theaters�

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:22:48 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

Hey, all.

Back from another exhausting weekend of reading. Got 14 chapters done (and that was with a cancelled flight and getting there 2 hours late). Should finish it in one more weekend session. Could be a record! But I am so worn out I can barely think straight.

Also got the contract for the ElfLore books today, so must sign that and send it back. Busy, busy. But to balance it out, the deluge of rejection letters from agents for the next horror book begins again. ::sigh::

Trouble is, with all this book stuff taking up so much of my time, I'm hardly able to even think about anything else. So I am probably going to be even less involved in fan-stuff than ever.

I know I haven't been nearly as helpful and supportive to the con staff as I should be, not pulling my own weight here, would be voted off if we were playing it that way. Sorry 'bout that ... I will try to get my butt in gear and be more active in these coming weeks.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 08:53:22 PM
IP: 04-184.075.popsite.net

Just checking in here while I download the DirectX 8.0 SDK and the Speech SDK 5.0
Man... happy I have DSL! 300mb! And in less than an hour!

Imzadi: <...strawberry surprise, pink linen on white paper...lavender and cream, tales of butterflies, reality escapes her...>
What song is that?
<So far, so good. My credit is perfect>
Sounds good in theory. Borrow from those that don't charge interest. But those people don't report to a credit agency. I bought something on credit (Hmm... no interest for 12 months) so I could GET credit. My credit is non-existent.
<What's that?>
Well, basically it is Check Disk. Makes sure there are no problems with the data.
<Mine too, for about 9 months...Mine too, for about 9 months...>
That would pay for 1/3 of my land AND the money I may need to build my house. If I have family help me, it will be more because I got to pay for beer.
<What if you mounted it on an external frame, like a hiking pack?>
It would have to be at least a 5-point connection, maybe more. Remember: This is a many horsepower engine we are strapping to your back. A full torso frame at the least would keep things stable. And just imagine the feeling of something pulling your shoulders with the force of 300lbs at least.
<You understand WRONG>
Well, I never claimed to be a big Linux/Unix person.
<Superficially, I'd agree. But I don't think that any women are ruling the world behind the cover of a man by getting into his pants>
Hillary Clinton? Nancy Regan? Barbara Bush? Eleanor Roosevelt? And who says that a woman has to get into a mans pants? A woman can seduce without sex. That�s what makes them powerful and that�s what makes them dangerous.
Know thy enemy. Ignorance is NOT bliss. Ignorance is death. I have seen the enemy, and she is a XX chromie.
And "Never underestimate the power of estrogen!"
Remember: 90% of women don't let men know that they control their man. LM denies it, but in a way she does control me. It is subtle. And it is dangerous.
<There should be corned beef quantities at Citywalk, if you're willing to be $10 for a sandwich>
How much meat? Any sauerkraut?
<But because the tape is so simple and universal, I don't see it happening anytime soon>
Geordie on Star Trek: TNG
"Captain, there was a breach in the warp core, but some duct tape patched that right up"

Know thy enemy. Thy enemy is women. Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer! :)
There is more in a woman�s mind than you can possibly fathom. She is so complex and fickle that it is impossible to understand her.
Even the moron's among women are complex. She may seem like a vacuum, but in that mind is a complex machine who can make your life hell if she isn't happy.
And no, you can't leave her, for then her revenge will be total and all consuming.
<Dude, you have CGI X-ray vision?>
I am the Matrix. ;)
Actually, I saw some close ups of the 3d model before. Cheek shots. You could even see the skin cells!

That�s what they said about the hotel last year. Hotels don't exactly have the best in long-term power supplies. 60 minutes at 50% power max.
<In either case, a bigger TV is needed!>
Na. I am happy with the size of my plasma screen TV.

Gside: <FS explained it to me, but he wasn't sure if his answer is correct. Can you email it to me then?>
She just can't understand why you would be talking about a Wang like that.

Doug: <Gotta have A credit to refinance, you know>
True, true. Sucks. I will be lucky to be able to get any land with the way credit is. :(

Waprmind: <Oh, yeah, sure... like the food issue was why you were eating at McD's next to a porn shop>
Oddly enough, I never went into the shop. Like I could anyway. I was broke and I was less than 30 days from my 21st birthday (The legal age in the US to get that stuff)

Lady Mystic: <about 5 managers>
Lets see... 5 main managers, the District manager, and 3-5 trainees. And that�s not talking about the managers at the front counter...
All in all, during the day, there was a max of about... *15* managers in the store... accounting for >50% of the people there.
About 3 rarely bothered me.
<Don't forget the bathroom! ;)>
Ok, ok...
Looking at this, even with furnishings, if you just use the cost of the bathroom, kitchen, water and house heaters, they cost more than the rest of the darn house!
<which makes it hard to find out about them and decide if they might be something we're interested in.>
...or they look like they suck. Like that place next to Blockbuster?
<I'm reminded of the women on those talk shows who dress, to put it politely, in barely-there clothing 24/7>
...and have an inverse hourglass figure. Or an all out figure!

CrzyDemona: <And we just thought that the LAX Westin would cause sleepless nights with that huge "NUDE NUDE NUDE... LIVE NUDE GIRLS!" sign across the street.>
And you picked the hotel that WASN'T near the Nude Girls?!?! WHY? :)
I just hope I can make it this year. :(
Darn loosing my job making me not have money.

GXB: <Anyone, hungry? I brought Chinese.>
Don't mind if I do!
::FS grabs the Chinese man and bites him on the neck, drinking his blood::
Thanks. Needed that. The only problem with Chinese is that I want more an hour later!
;)

*<>*BUFFY ALERT!*<>*

Hmm... i think Willow enjoied taking apart the Buffy sex bot a little too much.
Hell... I would too! Think of all the cool stuff inside!
I don't think we have seen the last of these bots. Hell, maybe Willow will use the Buffy bot to repair the other bot!

*<>* END BUFFY CRAP! *<>*
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 08:53:07 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Howdy one and all,

Well, I'm going to Hong Kong. My fiancee Jenn was on Jeopardy! today and WON! $5200 and a trip to Hong Kong. A good honeymoon if I say so myself.

Well, that's all for now. Great news to share.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 08:28:50 PM
IP: cbl064.pool008.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

Hi...I'm not a regular here, and I don't mean to bother you all :-) but recently I've been urged into starting an online fanfic-clan of sorts, and I've somehow got to come up with a large, detailed plotline set about the time of the Reconquista 0_0

I would be grateful for any advice you could give me about creating ongoing stories, like you do for TGS. You can email me at aljan416@hotmail.com

Thanks!

--Emily R.
Emily R. - [aljan416@hotmail.com]
Madison, WI, USA
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 07:41:32 PM
IP: d154.as2.mdsn0.wi.voyager.net

Thanks Doug, good to be back.

*** BUFFY SPOILERS ***

This was quite a good episode. A lot of nice developments on Buffy, Giles and even Spike. I might as well say, I still prefer the old badass Spike with Drusilla, but I've decided to just stop hoping for those days again, and enjoy what they are doing now, besides, there's too many other nice jems to let one thing I'm less fond of kill the show for me. If Spike ever does become the awesome badass he used to be, I'll take it as a pleasant surprise. Spike is still my favorite character though, no matter what side he's on.

Also there was some nice development on Glory, though she is a moron, it is obviously only a matter of time till she discovers Dawn is the Key. Or those knights do first.

Also nice to see Willow disagree with Tara for once. They're a nice couple and I like them a lot, but I want to see more of this, it will make them more real. I think we would have seen more earlier, except this season was really Buffy-Dawn-Spike centered, with the rest of the cast taking a back seat to them, which may have hurt the development of other characters.

Angel was also good, lots of nice development on Lindsay. I understood his actions, and he had perfectly good reasons for being pissed off at Wolfram & Hart. Still, he's too good a character to let go, so I hope we see him again.

*** END SPOILERS ***
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 07:36:29 PM
IP: dialin-1251-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Kit: And there's also staring contests, truth or dare, maniacal laughter contests, evaluating women's beauty as they walk past, eating ice cream cones together, basketball... oh, so many things.

GXB: Welcome back! Missed you.
Doug
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 06:49:57 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.123.dlls.grid.net

CrzyDemona> ::Applauds:: I always liked and respected you, but you've just become my new hero. Looking forward to the con :)

::Turns to the rest of the room and yells with a British accent:: That's right, I'm back, and I'm a bloody animal! ;)

::Plops himself down on the CR couch and watches "Angel" with the rest of the Buffyverse fans:: Anyone, hungry? I brought Chinese.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 05:46:47 PM
IP: dialin-458-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Not much time for flashy entrances...I'm using someone elses borrowed satellite uplink time....

Lain: Nice going! Now if only you were about 5'10, dark-haired and good looking, I might have to look at finding employment in Canada ;-)
Still trying to find someine in the Service that I can talk to about scholarship...just so you didn't think I forgot.

Gotta fly!

***************
Wait. My blaster, his lightsaber and the Force aginst sixty armed stormtroopers and you think a little teddy bear with a stick is going make me happy? I mean if we only had a scout walker or something...
-Return of the Princess Bride Jedi

Hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 04:58:00 PM
IP: ba-067.adsl.stargate.net

Josh - "Kerblinkty" = Verb, the action and sound of a double take or shocked eyeblink in classic Warner Brothers cartoons. >:)

Sevarius Jr. - Are you on crack or what? You are the only one HOPING for a flame war here. First, Marina would TOTALLY get the Jericho thing. Second, yes, you are right, people like you DO ruin it for everybody. (now THAT was a flame)

Pistoff - Impress Greg? LOL!! That's funny. No, actually we were hoping NOT to have rats in our rooms this year for a change. Oh... and 170 people is about 70 more than any other Gathering has had at Pre-registration. So thanks for noting all our hard work is paying off! :) But it is really cute how you try to drag down something as amazing as this years Gathering just because you don't like the staff. So mature. Thanks!

XenaTrek - Hey girlie. We are working hard for you. Sorry about the confusion. ::hugs:: Patrick has probably replied to you by now. I look forward to your response! :) As for the Hotel/Airline/hospital food. For the most part, I have to agree with your friends. We did consider not having a banquet (it would have been MUCH cheaper for the convention)... but the food was good and the place is AMAZING... so we went ahead with it. I am sorry you won't be joining us. :( (BTW... Sevarius is just trying to start fights for his own jollies... we all know this is definately NOT a flame war.)

CalArts/USC - They are both probably an hour away from the hotel (at the very MOST). If you are interested I can track down actual addresses and we can find out exactly how far away they are from the Sheraton. :) and CalArts is in VALENCIA.. not NORTHRIDGE as previously stated.

Spacebabie - Princess Bride!!!

Fire Storm - RE: Power outages in California. HAR HAR! :P Actually, I believe Studio City is DWP... who actually has an EXCESS of power. YAY.

Josh AGAIN - have you not been to the Sheraton in the past year or so? The subway station is right across the street from it. Also, Josh, it seems you have a lot of "Opinions" about why we are doing things the way we are... but not many facts. If you have questions, please feel free to drop me a note.

Just FYI... the hotel RIGHT next door to the Sheraton was $250 a night WITH the discount. And we just thought that the LAX Westin would cause sleepless nights with that huge "NUDE NUDE NUDE... LIVE NUDE GIRLS!" sign across the street. (although LIVE Nude girls is MUCH preferable to DEAD ones)

We will try to round up the single Gargoyle lovin' women for ya on Saturday night, k? ;)

CrzyDemona - [crzy_demona@art-chicks.com]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 04:11:41 PM
IP: 1cust192.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

Kit> Thank you for the confidence boost! I really needed that. :) I won't be afraid...at least, not while I've got a good thing going...;) Anyway, I don't remember the name of the song...and the artist was either Brad Paisley or Colin Raye. Sorry I don't know it exactly. I just heard it on the radio for the first time today at work, and couldn't quit thinking about a certain someone...;)

Coyote> **hugs** That quote is for you. ;)

**ducks back out**
Ravyn
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 03:31:28 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

<ducks back in> One more thing.

Ravyn: Don't be afraid, it sounds like your relationship is going great so far and from here it can only get better. Don't let fear destroy it. Good luck. <country song> Sounds like one I'd enjoy hearing. Do you recall the artist?
Kit
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 03:05:29 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.23.dlls.grid.net

Argh, finals. I'll be going through those in next week myself. Ai.... Good luck to all dealing with them now.

LM: Thinking alike with your SO is indeed nice. I too am glad to have your respect and understanding, I'll try my best to keep it. <parents> Thanks. Doug and I hope we can keep with the good fortune all our lives too. Sorry to hear you can't show those jerks at OD what for, but I too am glad they lost their jobs. :)

Lain: More power to you! Congrats on your courage, and good luck with your life. Hopefully your dad will one day decide he should be proud of you no matter what path you're taking, I hope it comes soon. :)

SJ: Sounds like you have a cool gf. She got a name?

Doug: Don't forget singing karoake duets, beating up bad guys, screaming contests, snowball fights, hide and seek, tag, chess, video games, water park visiting, paintball, wrestling, jogging, oh geez there are so many fun things to do. Let's go do some of them! <grabs his arm and pulls him out of the room>
Kit
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 02:53:45 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.23.dlls.grid.net

Lady Mystic: Yes, we got rid of the car. Or rather the insurance company that was too cheap to pay for fixing it did. We're not using them anymore. :) <conflicting managers> Oh, I know all about that kind of trouble. There are managers at our Wal-Marts here in Austin who think it's okay for security officers to leave their posts to go get them hamburgers, ones who give conflicting orders, backstabbers, shouters, all sorts. I deal with them. <OD workers quitting> Good, those jerks deserved to lose their jobs. Thanks for your congrats concerning our parents (we know we're lucky to have them too), your acceptance of our apologies, and your respect. The last Kit and I are glad to have earned. :)

Imzadi: <grins> There are other fun things to do with women besides sex. Kissing, making out, dancing, swimming, water fights, bike rides, truck rides, talking, sparring, exercising together, eating an agreeable meal, watching a good movie, chatting online, surfing the Net, working on a project... Sex isn't the be-all and end-all of relationships. It's fun, but really it's just one thing you and your significant other can and should do together.

Condolences to all undergoing finals. Also, good luck.
Doug
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 02:45:46 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.23.dlls.grid.net

Argh! Hit "Submit" too soon...;)

LM> <> You're telling me!!! :) It is nice...although still a bit strange...especially when the other night, we had a conversation using very few words, since we already knew what the other was thinking...but we were on IM!!!! Gah!!! Relationships scare me to death--even when they're going right, because I have a fear they'll go wrong. Is there a phobia for that sort of thing? Maybe I'll catch you again on IM sometime. :)

Imzadi> Wow, those classes sure do sound like fun...;) Good luck with them. My classes for next year are Electricity and Magnetism, Statics, Vector Calculus, Western Civilization, and U.S. Society since 1860. Gosh, I sound like a sick engineer mutated with a history major...;)
Ravyn - [Rav's Post Part 2]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 02:37:20 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Spacebabie> THE PRINCESS BRIDE!!!!!! Gosh, I looooove that movie. :)

XenaTrek> Um, I think SJ was only being sarcastic about the "Flame War" thing. ;) CalArts is a kinda far drive from where we'll be...not so sure about USC.
Wouldn't want to go to either place, though. But that's just me personally. ;) Besides, I've already been to CalArts...**shrugs**

Warpmind> Hey, don't sweat it, I've got Sweetheart Withdrawl Syndrome too right now. ;)

Gathering Stuff> Keep in mind that I say all this in good cheer...I'll have to agree with Imzadi...I'm not really going to the Gathering for the guests. There's one reason and one reason only I'm going to the Gathering, and I'm sure anyone familiar with me knows what (or who, rather) that is. The only other reason is to meet everyone else that I've only known by name and text color in here. Although the Gathering will be a very cool and interesting thing to do, I can't spend $60 on dinner. Sorry. I'm a starving college student, and I'm blowing much of my cash just to get out to LA. ;) I'm sure the food will be great and all, and I'm sure all who *do* go will have a great time...but I'll just have to miss it. Sorry. Please don't flame me for this either. None of this was meant to offend anyone, or deter anyone from the Gathering or anything of the sort. I come in peace! ;)

"We march to the beat of a different drum,
The funny thing is that we hear the same one..."
~Some Country Song I Heard on the Radio Today ;)
Ravyn
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 02:30:19 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Kit: <<College tuition funds set up by our parents, yes.>>
Thanks for clearing that up for me. The two of you are very lucky to have parents capable and caring enough to provide those funds. They seem to have really helped you two along in life-long plans. I hope your good fortune lasts the lifetime you two will share. :)
<<We have a lot in common past-wise. My sympathies. Glad Firestorm doesn't work there anymore.>>
Thanks. I'm glad too. Ironically as unstable as it was with the people there that seemed to be the most stable job FS has had in a long time.

Doug: <<I've thought about working at Office Depot before, but now I don't think I want to. Glad FS got out of there, and condolences on all you both had to go through.>>
Thank you very much. :) I hope no one here goes through similar situations. I'm not sure how it is at other Office Depots, but the main problem with the one FS was at was that it was/is used to train managers. FS had about 5 managers giving him contradictory orders at one time. And all the managers, aside from one or two, were power hungry. For some reason nearly every employee at that store were backstabbers -- even to their own co-worker friends. It didn't help any that none of FS's so-called co-worker friends stood up for him or gave him moral support. And the flirty co-worker was really tight with a couple of the not-so-nice managers. So FS got singled out a lot.
<<Make sure when y'all finally get hitched, you joyride the Just Married vehicle through that store's parking lot a few times. That'll show em. :)>>
*L* Oh that would feel *so* good. But, alas, most of the people FS and I had problems with are no longer working there. It seems that a lot of employees (of the ones we've run into around town) from that store have quit on bad terms. Our fear is bumping into those people at other locations or, *worse*, working with them again. *shudders*
<<Thanks for the congrats. Hope y'all can soon be saying similar things about your own financial state.>>
You're welcome, and thanks too. :)
<<truck>>
Congrats. Forgive me if I missed this before, does this mean you got rid of the car that was in the accident a while back?

Doug/Kit: <<apologies>>
Thanks for taking my comments so well. I accept your apologies and thank you for understanding and respecting what I had to say. :) I'm glad you took those factors into consideration and decided to tone down your posts. But if you two change your minds later down the road, please know that I will understand, respect and accept your decision.

Winterwolf: <>
I wasn't suggesting doing that concerning everything. A person can still be spontaneous even when thinking before acting. It doesn't take much thought and time to decide what might be right and wrong to post in this forum. Sometimes, just s split second.
<<Everything you say and do reflects upon you.>>
I agree.
I found what you said very interesting. You have some very strong points too.
<<Almost missed my common courtesy. You're welcome. :)>>
Thanks for remembering. *HUGS*
<<Well the one I use is the CR Archive. That's really about it but I like to look at the pics and colors.>>
And thanks for answering. :)

Ravyn: <<It's actually very nice. Although I'm still getting used to it, since I've never really had that before. But it's still very nice. :)>>
I hope you enjoy it in every way that you can. It has a lot of advantages and can be quite comforting when you or your SO needs support... and a *lot* of fun. ;)

All Tauruses: Happy Birthday! FYI: My sister and father a Tauruses also. :)

Beth H.: Please listen to you body and your friends. Hope you get better soon. BTW, what is Asperger's Syndrome?

Imzadi: <>
In a good way or bad way? ;) Thanks for clearing that up. I still think it wouldn't be that dangerous for me. I have my own share of demons and evil/twisted/cruel ideas and thoughts. I'm familiar with FS's unique share. And even he will admit that some of his ideas pale in comparison to mine. (And has even expressed awe and fear in my ideas.) Yes, I know, I don't appear to be one who would possess these qualities but I do, without exaggeration.
<>
Are you talking from personal experience? Because I know a lot of women (and men who believe this too) that believe women have just as much substance, intelligence, ideas and other qualities (good and bad) as men. On many levels, men and women differ very little. Each gender is capable of thinking, feeling and reacting to stimuli in similar or identical manners.
<<If I don't get the last one, will things still change?>>
Probably, but the degree at which things change may vary.
<<why from YOUR view is it nice?>>
I think that broadening the discussion to other areas concerning related projects is nice. I feel this to be a positive influence on creativity.
<>
*L* Yeah right! What he earns on his projects is his money. I'd be mad at him if he spent the money on me. I prefer he use the profits towards future projects. (That's what we've done in the past concerning money he has made from his business.) Besides, I don't want a large, elaborate, expensive engagement ring -- it's just not my thing.
<<If they're not, let them speak up. You can't speak for a group of people that may or may not exist.>>
I'm not keeping them from speaking up, just voicing my opinion in the hopes that anyone who does feel this way will be motivated enough to speak up and share their views. Keep in mind that said people might not voice their opinions. But that doesn't mean they don't exist. I'm not even claiming that said people feel this way all the time. Some people may have felt this way in the past, but don't now due to different circumstances. And vice versa. And if it hasn't existed in the past or currently, it may exist in the future. I'm also interested in what everyone has to say about a viewpoint that may exist in here that hadn't been previously addressed.
<<And his problem with telling was...?>>
Our past experiences with co-workers. The people at that particular place of employment weren't the kind of people FS and/or I wished to remain friends with beyond a co-worker level. What little FS told them about our personal lives got magnified and exaggerated or altered. We didn't want to feed more to the fire. FS wanted to get through each day without another Office Depot scenario. Thankfully, our choice of action worked.
<<There's other stuff?>>
Not to them. But then again we are talking about a whole company filled with cheats, creeps, alcoholics, divorcees, philanderers and sex addicts.
<<Try making them more visible AND accessible in other parts of the site, like from the TGS stories page.>>
Someone else manages and maintains the other areas of the TGS website. FS and I have considered offering assistance and may offer assistance in the future, but right now we have enough things to do, IRL and online, to refrain from taking up more duties. (Believe me, we'd love to take up more duties and activities.) We don't want to burn ourselves out. CR Information is loosely connected to the stories and I believe putting that sort of data on each story to be a lot of work and pointless. Staff writers are in charge of what gets included in said files, so your request should be directed to them.
<<They don't. Duct tape is, by its nature and its versatility, an engineer's tool.>>
Who do you consider to be an engineer, besides those who are studying, plan to study, or have a degree in the variety of engineering fields?
<<Didn't you see Austin Powers 2?>>
No, I don't see a lot of movies when they come out. From what I saw of the previews I decided to wait for it to come out on the movie channels. I haven't caught it showing yet.
<<Adult content, bad language, violence, strong sexual content...I'd say R is more realistic.>>
That is what exists in here. But take a look at the CR rule #3. It clearly states: "In general, keep it PG-13 or tamer." This has been under consideration numerous times and has been altered at least once. But overall, PG-13 is what the majority of people have agreed upon.
Go here if you want to see for yourself: http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/rules.html

Sevarius Jr: <>
Thanks.
<<Frankly, though, and I mean this as no slight, but by doing so you set upon yourself a task more daunting than Oliver Stone trying to prove that Oswald was not alone. Back and to the left, back and to the left my friend.>>
Care to clarify for me? I'm not familiar with the subject matter of which you referenced.

Gside: <<I'm rather certain that a proper definition would violate decency constraints.>>
FS explained it to me, but he wasn't sure if his answer is correct. Can you email it to me then?
<<Most of my posts is trading one liners among Wilek, Warpind, Gunjack, and various others.>>
So I've noticed. ;)
<<I'd say it was more my sharing of my reprehensible taste in music.>>
True, but didn't you used to contribute more to major discussions? When you first got here, maybe?
<>
The lack of remembering is why I didn't know what you were talking about.
<>
Which board?
<>
*L* I can't remember either. But if he did have a hand in getting the clock fixed, which is probably highly unlikely, he did it through notifying Gore. FS explained this very well in his post.
<<Not a problem.>>
Good to see you noticed. :)

lain: <<Great White North>>
Thanks for explaining and for the link. I think I've seen some of Bob & Dougs stuff before, but that was probably over a decade ago.
<<father>>
Sort of reminds me of the way the relationship between my father and I gets at times. Fortunately, it occurs in cycles that last only a couple of months, with breaks (from negative feelings and reactions) lasting up to several. I know how emotionally and physically draining it can be. Hang in there and don't be afraid to take a few risks (as I see you are doing). Congrats on the progress thus far.

Fire Storm: <<Well... minus the kitchen! :)>>
Don't forget the bathroom! ;)
<<places open at night>>
There probably are a few businesses and hangouts that are open later or through the entire night but they don't advertise, which makes it hard to find out about them and decide if they might be something we're interested in.
<<control & hormones>>
That's one way of looking at it. ;)
<<Give me time! I still gotta design that ring! And hide the design from LM!>>
*smiles*
<<Unga unga! Fire good! Mastadon good! Unga munga VERY good!>> <<YOU CAN NEVER STOP ME! *ZAP!* Mmmmm... good...>>
*L*

DPH: <<Can we tone the conversations about sex and/or anatomy down to where this room can maintain a PG-13 rating? I am only asking because I can see discussions going to the point where this room is adult-oriented.>>
I agree. I wouldn't have a problem with adult content in the room if theory and practice concerning CR rules weren't so different. (I'll clarify if someone wants me to.) If the TGS staff has to base their story content on S&P due to the possibilities that they might have underage or conservative readers then this room, which is an extension of said content, should have to do the same.
<<Remember there is a conservative SBC in this room and, admitting to such, should tell people where I stand on this issue.>>
Excuse my ignorance, but what is SBC?
<<sinus infection>>
Hope it clears up soon without relapse.

Caliope: <<As for hour glass figures, it realy depends on the person, and if that person knows what looks good on them and what doesnt ;)>>
A agree. I'm reminded of the women on those talk shows who dress, to put it politely, in barely-there clothing 24/7. :\
And if I don't get a chance to tell you later, Happy Birthday! :)
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Click name for Gathering 2004 bid.
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 02:30:05 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

::struts into CR wearing shorts, Tevas, shades, and a white t-shirt, with a discman. Headbanging::

...strawberry surprise, pink linen on white paper...lavender and cream, tales of butterflies, reality escapes her...

::Looks around, notices everyone is staring because I'm a really crappy singer::

Sorry about that, folks.

Holy sh!t. I've got a lot to say.

Okay yesterday went from stressful to worse when I started my physics homework and realized I couldn't even do the first problem! I am SO fscked. I'm meeting with my TA tomorrow go over it, hopefully before its due. Anyway, I decided to add to my philosophy paper (which was due yesterday) and hand it in under the guise of "oh sh!t, I gave you the wrong draft!" This morning, I handed in the new paper (a day late) and convince the TA to accept it without a late penalty because it was "the draft I meant to hand in".

Today is a beautiful, sunny day in Berkeley. Its warm enough for me to wear shorts and a t-shirt and sandals, something I haven't done since September. God I miss doing this.

Anyway, its 145 and I'm done with classes for the day (all 2 of them!), so its time to do some replies before lunch.

Gathering stuff: Okay, I did not intend to flame Patrick, Crzy, or anyone else on the gathering committee. I don't want to be flamed about my views on the Universal Sheraton. I'm going to Gathering for three reasons: meet people from CR, buy cool stuff, and meet single chicks who have an interest in something that I have an interest in (that is REALLY hard to do). Its possible that NONE of those things will happen, but the odds that at least one will is enough to get me to go. I'm not going for the dinner, the guests, or whatever (though I might if the price were lower). But I never said I had a problem with the banquet. I have a problem with the price given the accomodations. If you don't like what I have to say about Universal Sheraton, TOO BAD. Those are the opinions of an experienced 18 year residence of the San Fernando Valley, and they are just as valid as any other opinion in this CR, likely more so than the people who are NOT from that area (which is just about everyone except me and one other person, I think).

People unfamiliar with the area wondering how far to this and that: Everywhere in LA is 20 minutes from everywhere else in LA. Don't ask me to explain it.

That said, I wholeheartedly agree with Pistoff that the Universal Sheraton was the most expensive place that could have been picked for Gathering. From what I understand, the thing that will make Gargoyles come back on the air is numbers, not silly $60 dinners. Not only that, but the Gathering isn't even being held in Los Angeles. Its being held in a suburb in The Valley. I think that this hotel was chosen not only for prestige, but also for the fact that its held on the Universal Lot, and that always impresses the TV people...lame if you ask me.

Okay, now that I'm done bashing the Gathering, I'd like to say that I think the concept of Gathering is a great thing and the people who put it together without being paid by the rest of us are some of the sweetest and most generous people on Earth. If you asked me to set up this whole thing, I'd tell you to go do something unpleasant involving duct tape. Crzy and Patrick, I may not agree with your decisions, but they are yours to make, and thank you for making them.

Kathy: Admirable goals for the Gathering. I hope it all works out the way you planned. <<Universal Studios and the Citywalk are minutes away from the hotel as is a central transportation hub>>: People complaining about the price of the dinner at the Sheraton are NOT goinng to find Universal Studios and Citywalk very appealing. Also, what central transportation hub is near Sheraton? <<22 miles from LAX>>: That is NOT close, especially with LA traffic in the summer.

SJ: That chick's not real!? Nuts! Would anyone mind if I added an icon of her to my OS X icons set? 8-) <>: Please do. I won't be there. <<doing BETTER in the ratings>>: People are dying to see how they end it, they just didn't care about what happened in between. They wanna see the fscking ship get home already.

Lady Mystic: <<what's a wang>>: Didn't you see Austin Powers 2?

Pistoff: <<I'll put that joint out in your ear>>: That's it? <<Has the attendance gone over 170 yet?>>: In a couple days it'll be 171.

Gside: <>: I wouldn't try to find my natural voltage, for one...<<you'd probably have to to get her to agree to living together>>: Probably? I think DEFINITELY. <<Isn't having someone collect your trash valuable to you>>: Yes, but the idea was that AI's wouldn't want to do it. <<He stopped?>>: Not to my knowledge, though has some amazing ideas about CLD's for a cave-tech dude. <<completely paying off everything immediately. Interest is a very bad thing>>: I was raised to borrow from people who won't charge me interest, and to pay them back as soon as I could even if it would cost me a few luxuries. So far, so good. My credit is perfect and I have no outstanding debts. I also don't have a new laptop! <<got the hang of bending and breaking things things numerically>>: I hear the class is a bear, but not that difficult once you memorize the equations. <<His being a gentleman>>: Oh, so he is one! That explains that. Thanks much, Gside (8-P spoil all my insulting fun, why don't you!) <<Food. Sleep>>: Yeah, that comes after sex but before the job, I think. <>: I learned from my dad. Its not that interesting, and you can't even impress old geeks with it. <<How to Play With Your Food>>: I've read How to Play in Traffic. Also good. <<pictures of the mellons>>: Isn't that considered pornography?

XenaTrek: I'm a civil engineering major, and I'm finishing up my Sophomore year as I speak. Oh my god, I'm gonna be a Junior. How scary is that? <<that's quite a workload>>: You're telling me. Five engineering classes (I count as engineering anything that you could call a science without having people laugh in your face), four of which are upper division. I may not post as often next semester... <<the more expensive the food, the less servings you get>>: Not always true, especially in Los Angeles, but in hotels its a safe bet. <>: You're no fun! j/k. <>: What if you are? Will that change your enjoyment of it? Oh, and you needed worry, most of us are psychologically disabled in one way or another ;-) <<How far is CalArts and USC from the convention area?>>: Get addresses of everything and use www.mapquest.com They're not close, I can tell you that much. USC is in the ghetto and CalArts is in Northridge (which you could also call a ghetto). I wouldn't drive there to save my soul, if I had one to save.

Spacebabie: <<Guess the quote>>: Inigo Montoya? hehe. Princess Bride, one of the coolest movies ever.

Lain: Congrats on standing up the jerk! You deserve a really big cookie or something. Maybe I'l bring one when I come visit. <<THATS not a flame war>>: It was, you missed it. I think you blinked during it... 8-) <<*I* get the CRAPPY sex>>: ...

FS: <<CHKDSK>>: What's that? <<$20K would pay for about 33% of my entire housing costs>>: Mine too, for about 9 months... <<the one thing I could never really figure out>>: IM me your question cuz I'm dying to know what YOU couldn't figure out about them. <<This is a PG CR>>: Adult content, bad language, violence, strong sexual content...I'd say R is more realistic. <<Me make stuff blow up. Fire good>>: BOO YAKA! <<sometimes get along with her better>>: Yeah, but if I were living with a chick I wasn't sleeping with, I'd be bitter all the time and I'd make lewd comments that border on sexual harassment until I got in a lot of trouble. <<Not too sure I would reccomend it alone>>: What if you mounted it on an external frame, like a hiking pack? <<Linux is a little easier to use than Unix>>: You understand WRONG. Easier depends on what your doing, as is the case with all OS'es <>: If that were true, there wouldn't be billions of dollars poured in by Apple and Red Hat to "bring UNIX to the masses". <<Control a man's hormones and you control the man>>: Superficially, I'd agree. But I don't think that any women are ruling the world behind the cover of a man by getting into his pants. <>: There should be corned beef quantities at Citywalk, if you're willing to be $10 for a sandwich...<<How close is that to Mt. Wilshire?>>: 20 minutes. See above statement of geography of LA. <<Will they replace the Tape>>: Its possible that in many years, nanites or some other form of technology that holds stuff together will replace duct tape. But because the tape is so simple and universal, I don't see it happening anytime soon. <<dare us men>>: I dare. I fear no woman's mind. They're mostly empty space anyway...I never forget and hold grudges forever too. <>: Best of luck. <<YOU CAN NEVER STOP ME! *ZAP!*>>: LOL. <<See what I mean Imzadi?>>: Indeed. <<Bragger!>>: Of course! A gentlemen may never tell, but he also doesn't get pats on the back either. <<California is just generally expensive>>: Actually, its not bad. The tourist traps are expensive, but that's true for any city. LA is much cheaper than San Fran or the rest of the bay area. <<little hairs>>: Dude, you have CGI X-ray vision? <<we wouldn't have to worry about that in California?>>: I doubt the Sheraton will suffer from blackouts. <>: Then either your too fat or your TV is too small! In either case, a bigger TV is needed!

<<a conservative>>: Jimbo! Its a rare conservative! And its coming right for us!...

Doug: <<Gee, sounds kinda boring>>: WHAT!? <<very nice photos of Faith>>: Aren't they all?

Caliope: <<there's no hope for ya>>: Speak for yourself. In a few years I'll be a wealthy pig with a fat paycheck any on my way to an early retirement. And the best part is, I'll still be single! BUWAHAHAHA. <<not an ounce of sarcastic insticts>>: Are you kidding me? It was a JOKE. <<lol and that would be?>>: Why does everyone in here think I am total deprived of any boundaries whatsoever? I may not have many moral boundaries, but there's PLENTY of stuff that I wouldn't do ::looks over at FS ZAPPING himself::

Warpmind: <<like the food issue was why you were eating at McD's next to a porn shop>>: LOL.

Revel: <<it's only money>>: I hate that logic. Its only money when there's no chance you're gonna convert it into a useful product. For me, its not money. Its my new laptop. A few bucks here, a few there, and suddenly I can get the ram upgrade, or the processor upgrade, or the 80GB firewire external hard drive. Its not just money.

Okay, folks, that's all for now. Time to eat some lunch and watch some cartoons and Pretender (Donaterase part II is on today, I think).

::Disappears in a puff of smoke::

I do not care if he is good, I want to know if he is LUCKY!
-Napoleon

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 01:57:41 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-117.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Just checking in. Yes, I'm still alive. My trip was short but well enough, still ended up playing video games most of the time, I beat the Bouncer on the PS2 in a little over an hour, short game. This is our last regular week so all our project and presentations are next week and were feeling the pressure and it sucks because the final product will not be at my own personal expectations, but whatcha gonna do?

Warp- It's okay buddy were there for you, a lttle female withdraw never killed anyone... except this one time.

Pistoff- yeah it's expensive to go the G2k1 but the truth is it's only money. I won't have a savings acount afterwards but who cares. If I don't use my money for me it will just go to someone or something else.

"No wonder I'm so depressed. I have mor in commont with that Cat over there yet I'll die protecting your worthless hide."
-Doomsday to a psychology professor-
Wing Commander: Fleet Action

Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 01:23:26 PM
IP: ac83bc7b.ipt.aol.com

SJ-Boy, people really DO take you seriously all the time when you're making a joke, don't they? By the by, I get the logger bit, at least...

In any event, my life is about as busy as it usually is. Finals, and sudden new responsibilities at work are making for no free time to even READ the room, let alone make anything in the way of a post. Ah well. Maybe that'll clear up some this summer... No wait, then I start working full time and dealing with con season. Hmm.
Robby (Not Aaron)
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 01:21:44 PM
IP: ac8d8813.ipt.aol.com

*enters*

okay, so i have like five minutes on this break.

Warps: *huggles* *nuzzle nuzzle nuzzle* I should have some free time this weekend. *hopes so at least*

lain: I didn't have time to read you rant...oh, well. I will later. it looked good.
...Really, I just wanted to post to you to wish you luck with Harding and everything.
...Okay, so really I wanted to post just call you a hosehead. ;)

Imzadi: oh. Yes, that WAS a rocky reference.

Gunjack "I'M BEING ATTACKED BY MY DOG'S STUPID @$^%&$%^$&@$%!!#$%^%^*%^(^&%$@ FLEAS!!!!!!!" Valentine: Best of luck to you with that. (and such language for a Good Christian Boy(TM)!! ;)
...and if you EVER say that ANY pic of me looks like the Godfather again, frozen mackerels down your pants will be the LEAST of your worries. *makes mental note to NEVER smile in a picture again*

Okay, so, I have to reread both the Trial and The plague tonight. If anyone sees me on IM, I am doing research on Bill Jacklin. NO TIME for chat for Lynati. :(

*bolts back to class*
Lynati Kshudra
South of Sanity
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 01:18:43 PM
IP: kcx-ks18a-06.rasserver.net

Crzy: Um, I really dont have anything to contribute except, Hi! *beams*

Spacebabie: <Guess the quote> I really hope everyone recognized that one (although you never know - sometimes the Fastest Finger questions are SO easy on Millionaire, and one or two get them wrong anyway).

Sevarius Jr.: <Final Fantasy> They've really come a long way since Jar Jar. <Redskins> I thank the Redskins for reminding everyone of the dangers of anointing a Super Bowl champion before the season even starts. <XFL> I never understood the logic of showing it at night. I mean, most NFL games are on during the day. I'm sure there's a very good reason for that. <Back and to the left> "You really are naive." - Jack Lemmon ;)

Gside: <JFK and melons> Just as long as you're not emulating that idiot Congressman who investigated the Foster suicide by shooting a watermelon.

Beth H: <48 hours> Wow, you must have been like Horatio Hornblower on the watch :D

Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, PA
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:41:14 AM
IP: 64.80.115.200

*Warpmind enters, looking slightly glum.*
Guhh... got the Sweetheart Withdrawal Syndrome REAL BAD today... :( Anyway, catchup-time.

Ravyn: You probably will... at least, there's a chance when we're out in the open. };)

Josh: Yes, of course it's possible to use squirtguns for propulsion in empty space... but really, using a handgun would be more effective... and still totally inefficient for long distances. As for Social Security money... yes, I get paid that kind of money at my age. In Norway, the social security system is funded by tax money (and is also taxed like regular paychecks) and is an intricate webwork of medical services, unemployment benefits, and pensions. I'm in a cross-section between the two former.

Gside: Who let the barbarians out? Who? Who? Who? Who?

Fire Storm: Oh, yeah, sure... like the food issue was why you were eating at McD's next to a porn shop. };)

Stephen: Words about credit taken to heart. Me, I've got a DEBIT card, not a credit one. I can't charge the VISA more than there is on my account... very convenient. :) (Don't have a loan, either... I'm not particularly wealthy, but I owe NOTHING!!!)

Lynati: No online time for the next few days? Aaaagh, my withdrawal sufferings will be the death o'me... :(

Beth: Ack, sleepless... yeah, I emember *thtat* part of my life... *Shudder* Runs on autopilot all day, just 'cause the frontal lobes are completely exhausted... :(

Pistoff: Oh, a Joyride calendar? *Chuckle* You'd HAVE to include the event where I was standing on a rooftop and playing Waltzing Matilda on bagpipes. };)

Spacebabie: That quote... the Sluggy strip where Riff and Torg were duelling with four-foot baguettes?

And that's it... I gotta run; movie I've been waiting for just started...
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Lonely, Sad, Without Lynati
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:29:06 AM
IP: mp-217-206-18.daxnet.no

*prances on in* Hey Guys! * ^_~ *

Thanx to everyone for the Happy Birthday wishes! Wow, in two days I'll be 20, over the hill and rollin'! :P

Doug> Thanx so much for the addy, sir! As for hour glass figures, it realy depends on the person, and if that person knows what looks good on them and what doesnt ;)

Josh> <<Looks down pants:: Ah! That explains it.>> *shakes her head and laughs* there's no hope for ya, you know that right? :P <<Yeah, but when you look at your toned, flat stomach, it'll all be worthwhile.>> eh, if you say so! <<Modesty being the first... >> LOL not an ounce of sarcastic insticts either huh? :P <<Don't do anything I wouldn't do!>> lol and that would be?! :P

Gside> <<Anything good?>>...naw, just something about a gigant plastic cow rendering gardening servise for 15$....that and midieval sword play in the hallway of my house O.o <<Supposedly they foam very much, and their gullets might split.>.....OK! And THATs why Cali, after being accepted in the natural sciences dept. did a 180 and changed to a visual arts mayor! :P

Winterwold> Hi-ii!!! *HUGZ* <<Well now I know you are a Taurus!>>lol yes, I'm a bull headed girl :P <<Isyour b-day today or later this week? If it is today then you have the same b-day as my sister!>> No, my B-day is on the 26th, this thursday, but happy B-day to you sister too! :D <<Roswell>> Gah!!! Did you see that!?!?!??! This is not good, not good, they killed Alex!!!!...this just can be! And I dont buy for a second he killed himself, I mean, he's in on the biggest conspiracy in the world, the girl he's been after is now after him, and he's gonna kill himself cuz he got a cold burger!?!? I dont think so, there's gotta be something more to it then that. Who know's maybe he's an alien too, er something!

I should get going now, I'm almost late for my class, but not quite, so I'll see ya guys! *extra HUGZ for everyone, then prances on out*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:03:43 AM
IP: 136.145.83.178

Firestorm: I honestly can't recall ever saying it was 120K. <shrugs> Oh well. The 50K is just the house. The land is an additional 38K, but we're paying both off slowly but surely. Gotta have A credit to refinance, you know.

Lain: I too congratulate you on your courage. Good luck with your career and college plans. And if your dad's gonna be a jerk, well, I say let his problems be his own and worry about yours. And Arianna is right, you are awesome. Bigtime awesome. :)

Pistoff: What, 7.50 an hour, 11.25 overtime is unbelievable? And 8.85 an hour (what Kit makes at Tower)? You must make really bad money, man. And the prices we told you were the actual prices of the house and truck, rounded to the nearest thousand. We had no part in the decisions as to what to make them, the people we bought them from did that. :(

SJ: Your relationship with this girl is just sex, sex, sex? Gee, sounds kinda boring. Surely there's more to it than just that. <Every guy in the room looks at Doug and goes "Huh?" He ignores them> Thanks for the good Buffy news. BTW, the latest issue of Maxim has some very nice photos of Faith, or Eliza Dushku, in there. <grins>

Beth: Wow, you must have some Rubio DNA there. 48 hours without sleep? Hope you get more rest soon, you might need it. Best of luck. (Rubio, BTW, is a guard at my job who pulls doubles, triples, and quadruples all the time. Sleep he can live without, amazing as it is.)

Ravyn: Yes, it was very nice. :)

Winterwolf: Happy Birthday to your sister.

All for now.
Doug
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:24:44 AM
IP: pool-63.52.167.6.dlls.grid.net

It's arrived. It's arrived. It's arrived. Guess what arrived. No, you[standing in front of me]'re wrong. You[over yonder]'re right. My new PC has arrived. Guess what that means I will be doing on Saturday. All of you are right: setting the PC up completely. This includes installing software, buying an LS120, installing it in the computer, and finally transporting it home and setting it up for good. I do have plans for a special entrance the 1st time I use the new PC in the CR room.

This brings me to a problem: How in heck am I supposed to tell my dad/the idiot that I bought a new PC without umm upsetting him too much? I really need help because every method I have thought of involves sacrism.

I went to the doctor yesterday for my sinus infection. That is quite a story of events of yesterday. I went to the doctor's office and paid cash for visit ($10) after showing my health insurance card from work. Next, I went and bought the medicine. Thanks to my insurance card, I only had to pay $15, which once again I did in cash. That being done, I realized I had no more cash. So I went to the ATM machine and discovered it needed to be serviced. I thought "no problem, I have my checkbook with me.". So I drove towards work and stopped at a Taco Bell. I asked if they accepted and the answer was yes. I pulled out my checkbook and low and behold I had the checkbook for . . . my savings account. No way in heck am I going to write a check out of my savings account. So I went back to my car and started counting the change I had in the car. I didn't realize how much change I really had: just enough for the extra large beef burrito. So after I bought that, I was 'broke' because I only had $.35 on myself because I was unwilling to go on somebody else's ATM machine to get cash and pay a fee. Thankfully, nothing happened that I needed money for. On my way home, I stopped by the ATM machine and it was working: it even told him who I am. I took out $20 and checked my bank balance for my checking account: I had ~$1500, which suprised me.

Lain - If you go to Harding University, I might drive up for a short visit: I live in Conway, which is about 3-4 hours away, I believe if memory serves me right.

Can we tone the conversations about sex and/or anatomy down to where this room can maintain a PG-13 rating? I am only asking because I can see discussions going to the point where this room is adult-oriented. Remember there is a conservative SBC in this room and, admitting to such, should tell people where I stand on this issue.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:03:35 AM
IP: max1-13.cwy.cei.net

Why does Phase 4 and 5 of CHKDSK take so d#$% long?
(NOTE: I really don't care what the real anwser is)

Winterwolf: <First if you become overly preoccupied with this might be offensive or taken the wrong way I could see posting as taking a much longer time than just typing up some comments>
LM just cares about others feelings. She just dosn't want to make anyone uncomfortable like we did to LM's sister Puppy Girl. She cares about other people.
And thinking about what you post is a good thing. I mean, you don't have to analyze every post. Just think before you type, so to speak.

Doug//Kit: <As for how we can afford it, Kit and I did not purchase a 120K house or a 30K house>
Hmm... I could have sworn you said the house cost $120K. And I was just guestimating for the truck price.
<we both have about 20 grand left over>
Yeah... that would help... alot.
Hell, $20K would pay for about 33% of my entire housing costs!
Well... minus the kitchen! :)
<the house was originally a 50K house>
is that just the house, or the land too?

Gside: <Ah, the good things in life.>
That was the best thing about New York. Everything was open into the wee hours of the night.
The only things open around here are the supermarkets... and they are always busy at 3am.
<True, but if you fixed it once, it stands to reason you could do it a second time>
I never really fixed it. I just relay info and querrys.

I know. But the one thing I could never really figure out about threesomes with two women... oh, wait. This is a PG CR. Never mind! :)
<Not quite sure. It's another Shampoo phrase, and I think it's something like "I love my fiancee.">
Someone really should hook her up with someone. I think Mousse.
<his first case was training Mousse in an alternate way to defeat Shampoo>
I kinda want to know...
<Big honking resistors and a fan>
...rectifiers... thermal switches... and a standard switching method I can't figure out how it works!
Hope you got the diagram of it.
<He stopped?>
Unga! Athlon... ::drool:: Me make stuff. Me make stuff blow up. Fire good!
<I'm rather certain that a proper definition would violate decency constraints>
I tried to tell her, but she wouldn't listen!

Imzadi: <No, but we'll blame you just the same>
Too true.
<Zero, since I'd rather have my testicles cut off than live with a female I wasn't sleeping with>
I live with a non-biologically related woman that I am not sleeping with, and I sometimes get along with her better than who I *AM* sleeping with!
<Right, cuz hanging out in this CR is SOOOO much better! NOT>
Hey, when the ideas I get involve snow/ice removal with thermite and napalm, that ain't good.
<And you said you could make me the light suit for only a couple K-bills>
True, true. And I should still be able to. That price I said takes care of quite a bit of my R&D costs.
<If not, how much for just the rocket pack?>
Not too sure I would reccomend it alone. Remember, that part is gonna weigh at LEAST 75lbs.
But the whole thing should only cost a few K bills. If I can get it done at all, my costs will be cheap.
<Its based loosely on FreeBSD, which is a Unix, but not Linux>
From my understanding, Linux is a little easier to use than Unix and has a graphical shell. But other than that, I though the differences were minimal.

Na. Thats just what they want you to THINK! Control a man's hormones and you control the man. Control the men and you control the world.
<If I can't find you corned beef in LA, I'll give you another K towards that light powersuit.>
I probally could have found one in New York if I was willing to travel in the city. But I barely went more than a block from the hotel.
<Is that a reference to the McD's or the porn shop?>
McD's. Hmm... "Chicken Strip"... Hmm...
<The valley has lots of good places to eat up and down Ventura Boulevard>
How close is that to Mt. Wilshire?
<Much like a slide rule in the days of old>
But they replaced the slide rule! Will they replace the Tape of the mighty Duct?
<But most of the people who've peered into the depths of my mind aren't quite the same ever again>
Personally, I am more worried about your fragile grasp on sanity! I mean, dare us men go into the mind of a woman that never forgets and can hold grudges for a long period of time?
Dare we go into a mind that has been tourmented for years?
HELL NO!

Give me time! I still gotta design that ring! And hide the design from LM!

Lady Mystic: <Now all you need to do is start grunting and talking in cave-tech speech again. ;)>
Unga unga! Fire good! Mastadon good! Unga munga VERY good!
<*L* You know I won't. But I may have to keep you from trying. *L*>
YOU CAN NEVER STOP ME! *ZAP!*
Mmmmm... good...
<And I know how *much* you love it>
See what I mean Imzadi? :)

SJ: <We have sex. Lots of great, hot sex. And she's bisexual!>
Bragger!
<by doing so you set upon yourself a task more daunting than Oliver Stone trying to prove that Oswald was not alone>
Hell, LM is leaning towards the... "Two party system" while I am leaning more towards the "single party system"
If we are talking about what I think we are talking about.

Pistoff: Don't forget: California is just generally expensive! Just like New York! ($120+ a night for that crappy little room?)
<Oh, and that link...that chick is CGI'd???>
She even has pores and little hairs!

Kathy: <In past years they've had to deal with things like power outages>
Like we wouldn't have to worry about that in California? :)
<insects the size of small house pets>
You talking about New York or Flordia?

Lain: Is Bob and Doug older than SCTV?

"I object to all this sex on the television. I mean, I keep falling off!"
-One of the men dressed as a woman on Monty Python
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 09:46:56 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Ok, finally, I have my computer back. Somebody with more talent than I needs to do a really gruesome DC death...he wouldn't let me sign onto the campus network since last wednesday, and I haven't had a computer since Friday. Dear me...DC, you will pay!

Now for some wayyy overdue responses, etc.

Imzadi> <<Arianna: <<second flute>>: Was that YOU?>> No, i doubt it...I was actually first flute for all three years I took orchestra in high school...it was always the young frosh second flute that got all the attention. ^_^

Lexy> A little late, but *hugz* I'll keep you in my prayers...

Daniel> My condolences go out to both you and Sammi...*hugs*

lain> This reply too is a little late, but I just wanted you to know that we're all here for you...*HUGZ* Reading your plan...you are awesome! Good luck!

Siofra> Welcome!

OK, that just wasn't much responding for being gone so long, but I don't have too much to add these days. :( Anyway...
Take care, all!
Later!
Ari

Lady Arianna of Annwn - [lady_arianna@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 08:37:10 AM
IP: hurlmk0.computer.wfu.edu

****Kyryn zooms into the CR, hugs Lain, then zooms out again.****

Lain> Congrats for having the courage to stand up for what you believe in!

Later, All!

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 07:49:57 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

dudes.. heh.. i just had 12 hours of gloroius, wonderful, comfy sleeeeeeeep.. *12* hours..... mmmmmmmmm..
*glacnes around briefly*
FLAME WAR!?!??!?!
whatwherewhodonnitwhostartedthrowingtomatoesandeggsandpeopleleavingybadnessand..
hey wait..
THATS not a flame war.. well at least not yet..

well since (sadly) i am NOT going to the gathering.. nor have i ever been before.. i guess i dont have much to say about the subject..

crzy>> "*kerblinkity*" heh.. said "KERBLINKITY".. i LIKE this crzy... we would get along well, methinks : D

pissy>> so.. um... what kind of pizzas DO ya got???? ; ) *ducks and runs screaming "IT WAS A JOOOOOKE NO NO PUT THE CROWBAR DOWN!!!!!!"*

SJ>> "We have sex. Lots of great, hot sex. And she's bisexual" HEY!!!! whats with THAT?!?!? i mean.. where was *I* when all this good stuff was goin down???? dangit.. i ALWAYS miss out, dont i? theres all this GOOD sex goin down all over and what do *I* get?? *I* get the CRAPPY sex.. MY LIFE SUCKS!!! (and.. i have a father who phones me up from mexico (where he is on holiday with his girlfriend) when gunjy is here to tell me "dont do anything *I* wouldnt do.. oh no wait.. um.."
; )
speaking of my dad...
************RANT TIME***********
well of course cos im a moron and i KNOW that keeping secrets from parents is a BAAAAAAD thing, i went and told my dad last night that i didnt want to do a fine arts degree, and that i wanted to do criminal justice.
after the shouting match that left me in tears on the couch.. and left about 23 kleenexes all nice and soggied, he stomped off and went upstairs, claiming to have an enourmos headache. (maybe from all the shouting hes just done?)
anyway, i made him dinner and went upstairs so he could yell at me for another round.
(BTW, when we got home, there were 8 messages on the phone machine, 7 of which were from me because he went away to stay at girlfriends house and decided not to tell me) i later found out that this was DELIBERATE and the reason he gave was: "well you never call me anymore or tell me what youre doing so i didnt feel the need to tell you where *I* ws going" IE this was a revenge thing for me not calling him every three seconds and being totally under his thumb. i told him how worried i was, that something had happened to him (cos hes old and (he says because of me) has high blood pressure) and drives on the 401 to work every day where there are LOTS of accidents... blah blah so he decides to pull this childihsh stunt and THEN blame it on me..
i told him it was the most childishly immature thing i had ever heard of.
AAAAAAAAANYWAY back to school stuff: he thinks i should set my mind to something and accomplish it. with this i totally agree. then he claims that i have never mentioned criminal justice ever in my life before and i brought up the shouting match we had a year ago about me going to either alberta of new brunswick to do CJ. the reason he didnt want me to go there was because i would be too far away from him (IE he couldnt control what i was doing)
he was also angry with me for "wasting his money" on school so far. i wonder how he would have taken it if i hadnt told him i wanted to change till NEXT year... i eventually said that if he wasnt behind me i would get a loan and do it myself. he told me that i couldnt get a loan because of his income and i said that i was sure i could create an arrangement that would separate me from him in such a way that i was no longer a dependant.

i think THAT got him some..
i also told him that I HATED coming home, that every time i know hes on his way i get this sick twisted knot in my stomach because i KNOW all were gonna do is fight.. and i HATE it.
i honestly think we would be better off faaaaaaaar apart where i could do my thing and he could do his thing and then whenever we talked or saw each other, all the arguing would be overshadowed with "I HAVENT SEEN YOU FOREEEEEEVER!!! YOU ARE LOOKING SOOOOOOOO WELL!!!!!!"

so anyways.. hes off at work contemplating the fact that i want to go to harding to study CJ and no doubt ill get another earful tonight when he gets back..
******************END RANT*********************

imzy-poo>> well as far as i know those dates look cool.. though this is assuming i am still.. you know.. even in the COUNTRY anymore..

LM.. i meant to say this a looooooong time ago but i cant find the link i was gonna post... i found another one thats kinda funny too though, so ill post it fer ya
the Great White North comes from an ooooooooold canadaian show and yes, it means the whole of canada cos were, you know, GREAT and its WHITE cos of the year-round insta-snow that forms at the U.S. border and were NORTH cos.. well.. we are ; )
hope you enjoy bob and doug and the Great White North ; )

lain "not a lumberjack and STILL okay" iwakura - [<<-- clicky for bob and doug, ya hosers ; )]
@home.. for now..
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 07:10:07 AM
IP: ttyb1f.ptbo.igs.net

I am beat. I have two free days then a final on Thursday and a party in my Fiction class...then I'm free for the summer.

I'm going to miss being in my Fiction Workshop. We all had fun.
Also going to miss my Script writing class. My professor was the coolest. Well we had textbooks written by JMS. My professor is in the loop with other Scriptwiters. He met Morgan and Wong. He loves the Matrix. Also about this smester there was this one guy who loked like the Latino version of Nicholas Brendon.

Unfortunatly I am only able to take two classes for the fall semester and I think I explained why

I'm done typing up portfolios.

The Food was great at last year's gathering, of course I sat next to Greg Wiesman.

Final Fantasy movie. I also can't wait to see this. I cried during the seventh game and my brother is currently playing the ninth.

Well I'll post again tommorow.

"My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my Father. prepare to Die."<<<<<--------Guess the quote.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 07:04:26 AM
IP: user-37kap1f.dialup.mindspring.com

Question: How far is CalArts and USC from the convention area? I'm debating as to wether or not I have time to check them out while at the Gathering or wait (providing I can fund both trips) til I come back for SIGGRAPH in August. I'm thinking of pursuing my Masters in a year or two and wanted to check out those schools. Knowing someone may or may not ask, I am thinking of pursuing either Filmmaking and/or Visual Effects. Other schools I'm planing to check in in the future includes Florida State and Savannah (where my brother is going this fall). Thanks.
XenaTrek
Orlando, FL, USA
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 06:10:52 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

Xenatrek > Your letter has been received. Since we work by committee occasionally it takes a little time to draft responses.

Re the cost of the hotel: Actually the only people we're out to impress are the convention participants. In past years they've had to deal with things like power outages, floods and insects the size of small house pets. Our goal this time around was to find a hotel that
1. was willing to host a science fiction convention (Strangly, when you present some managements staffs with the idea of having several hundred costumed people running through their corridors they become less than enthused.)

2. would act as a safe haven for our guests. If you choose to you needen't leave the grounds the entire weekend. They will provide food, shelter and entertainment on site.

3. was central to other points of interest so that if our participants did want to either stay over or duck out during the festivities they could. Universal Studios and the Citywalk are minutes away from the hotel as is a central transportation hub.

4.was easy to get to. The hotel is six miles from Burbank and 22 miles from LAX. Shuttle service is available. 5. was clean and comfortable so that parents would be comfortable allowing their not quite adult children to travel across country and participate.

We are working closely with the Sheraton to make sure they meet all of our expectations and so far they have.

We hope to see everyone there!

Oh, one last thing: There's only a few more days until the May 1st Submission Deadline for the first Gathering of the Gargoyles Writers Contest. Writers need not register to enter, although winners will get to read their entries at the convention and you must be registered to attend! There are lots of catagories to enter in: fiction and non fiction, even filk and poetry, so exorcise your creativity demons and enter today!

kathy - [gathering2001@art-chicks.com ]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 05:54:23 AM
IP: rr-56-12-61.atl.mediaone.net

*Cautiously tiptoes in, occasionally glancing over shoulders for hit menout to get self*

Boy, has it been a while since I'e posted. But, I do have a reason for it. I've been busy and my computer has been temperamental. But, I'll do a major catch-up post tomorrow. Right now, it's 4:21 am, and I'm beat.

Later!
Conspiracy Theorist - [conspiracy3000@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 03:53:05 AM
IP: aca15c48.ipt.aol.com

Sevarius Jr. > Re: >> <<Patrick, CrzyDemona: Hey, let's let cooler heads prevail and all back off of the situation with Xenatrek and Josh. Is a flame war really worth your friendship? These petty disagreements are tearing us apart. But don't go crazy! This is no reason to leave the CR for good just because of differences in opinion with another!!! >>

1. I don't see any evidence nor see any intentions between Josh and myself in starting "Flame War".
2. I don't see any evidence anywhere on these pages on connections to Josh and myself that is "forcing" anyone to leave the CR.
3. I am trying to prevent a situation that happened at a Star Trek convention several years ago involving a vendor (who longer exist) and a group of individuals w/ disabilities. It did make its way to the civil court where the vendor lost its privilege to hold any kind of convention.

I do not wish to think that I will be the only one w/ disability to come to the gathering. (California is the top three states, if not the first to have the largest population of deaf/hard of hearing individuals, and is in the top 5 states to hold the largest number of Star Trek/Sci Fi convention every year). Unless this 'flame war' you are indicating is a indication to ban, exclude and not welcome myself (and others) into attending this year's Gathering.

Speaking of the Patrick and Crzy. I did send an email to the email address per Patrick request early yesterday (Monday) morning. If you have not received it yet, please provide w/ another address so I can re-forward it to you.

Thank you.
XenaTrek - [XenaTrek@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 03:43:24 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

Josh > Re: Registered for classes on Friday: Fluid Dynamics, Thermodynamics, Materials Statics, Matricies, and Statistics for Engineers. Sounds fun, huh? >> What year are you again? For some reason I keep thinking you are a Freshman. (Oh wait... that's Ravyn. :oP) Seriously tho... thats quite a workload you got for yourself. Its gonna be busy and fun.

Ravyn > Re: Okay, I'm in a verrrry strange mood tonight. I guess that's what happens to me when I don't have homework...hm... ;) >> Was it a full moon last night? Either that, or Coyote and myself really rubbing off on ya. (j/p) :oP

Crzy > Re: Hotel Food. >> A few of my friends sometimes compare hotel food to airline and/or hospital food. The food that we had at the bouquet here in Orlando last year, was Ok. And I don't doubt the food at the Shearton is beyond good. I also think most of the time, the more expensive the food, the less servings you get, at least that's what my experiences has been around here and Canada. As must as I would love to check out the bouquet it will be out of budget since I plan to come back to LA again in August for SIGGRAPH. I will be hanging out w/ Coyote and Ravyn.

XenaTrek - [XenaTrek]
Orlando, FL, USA
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 03:42:41 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

Imzadi> <<Don't do anything I wouldn't do>>: Please, I don't even want to think about what you wouldn't do.
<<I'd rather have my testicles cut off than live with a female I wasn't sleeping with>>: And you'd probably have to to get her to agree to living together. Though I hear castralti are the next big thing in choirs.
<<in the same way that Microsoft Windows is related to a pepperoni pizza>>: You'd be surprised. Might've been a pizza induced dream.
<<Tell that to my parents>>: As I said, most people. There are always expeptions.
<>: Right, but that's what the planning's for.
<<Like collecting trash>>: Isn't having someone collect your trash valuable to you?

Lady Mystic> <<all you need to do is start grunting and talking in cave-tech speech again>>: He stopped?
<<It doesn't always work>>: I think that was my point.
<<What's a wang?>>: I'm rather certain that a proper definition would violate decency constraints.
<<If you mean new ideas and topics>>: Nope. Not in the least.
<<the replies rarely grow into discussions, even when I respond to the replies>>: Most of my posts is trading one liners among Wilek, Warpind, Gunjack, and various others.
<<But that is what has rooted you as a major part of this CR community>>: I disagree. I'd say it was more my sharing of my reprehensible taste in music.
<<To me, it's just a thing done to pass the time and appease curiosity, and not worth remembering>>: Absolutely. I never said anything about remembering, just measuring.
<<What did you need the HEX values for?>>: I was trying to start up my color rotation on a message board.
<<Stereotypes>>: Absolutely. Stereotypes can be quite fun if used properly, and admitted as such.
<<Someone else (Gorebash or Chris Rogers -- the guy who runs Wyvern Web) corrected tha>>: I vaguely remember Gire Strom claiming he had a hand in getting the clock fixed. Of course asking someone else to do it does count as having a hand in. And of courese, I don't trust my memory.
<<Sorry about the length of my post>>: What'd I say?
<<Sorry about the mix-up>>: Not a problem.

SRS Jr.> <<DO NOT FORSAKE IT, AND MAKE YER PAYMENTS ON TIME>>: I've been raised on the theory of completely paying off everything immediately. Interest is a very bad thing if you are not the one earning it. It'll be interesting to see how well I will be able to put that theory into practice.

Lynati> <>: You know, when you said that, the first thing that popped into my mind was fiber optics.

Imzadi> <<Materials Statics>>: That gives me nightmares. I still remember the overview we got in general statics. I never quite got the hang of bending and breaking things things numerically.
<<And his problem with telling was...?>>: His being a gentleman. I suggest you stop attempting to comprehend.
<<There's other stuff?>>: Food. Sleep. I think that's about it.
<<Much like a slide rule in the days of old>>: I really should learn to use one just for the heck of it.

Sev. Jr.> <<Back and to the left, back and to the left my friend>>: Which actually means that Oswald did it. When a bullet goes through something, it builds up a collection of mass travelling with it (here, brains), and when it goes out the other side, a jet is made, causing the shot object to recoil towards the shooter. This can be proven with mellons wrapped in tape. Incidentally, Penn and Teller's How to Play With Your Food is a good book (and it has pictures of the mellons).

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Monday, April 23, 2001 11:16:09 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Blargh. April 20th was horrible. Hardly anything happened all day, until the afternoon, when some people started celebrating the "holiday" early. A bit of advice: If you want to smoke a joint and get stupid, that's fine--but don't ever try to order a pizza from us when you're stoned. "Uhhhhh...dunno what I want...uhhhhhheheheheheh...." Christ. I'll put that joint out in your ear, damn it. And then, at 4:20 PM, just picture a huge puff cloud of pot smoke billowing up over Coos Bay. And then when the munchies kicked in, we had tons of hungry potheads descending on us. Gah.

That link I posted a while back: Glad it provided some amusement. I still don't know what the hell it is, and if anybody ever figures it out, it'll probably cause reality to come crashing down all around us. Looks like something Wilek would appreciate, though. ;)

SJ: BWAHAHAHA! ;) Oh, and that link...that chick is CGI'd??? My god, the face looks so real. Her arms are too damn thin, though. I'd be afraid to touch her. Might break something. ;)

Kit: Gee, I never imagined Wal-Mart paid its employees so well. It's amazing. Unbelievable, even. Oh, by the way...have you decided what the actual price of the house and truck are yet? ;)

Warpmind: Glad you like the idea about the calendar. I've got ideas for other calendars, such as one featuring my characters modeling fancy dresses. Just picture Boiler walking out onto a stage with an expensive dress and a totally blank look on her face. ;) And this morning I started thinking it'd be nifty to have a Joyride calendar. I would absolutely LOVE to have a picture of the Smirker being zapped with a bowel disrupter. :D

People being excluded from the Gathering: If what I've heard is correct, one of the reasons a lot of people might feel excluded is because the geniuses organizing the event apparently decided to stage it in the most expensive hotel they could find, thereby guaranteeing a low attendance. Guess somebody cared more about impressing Weisman with how much money they could spend instead of making the event accessable to as many people as possible. ;) Has the attendance gone over 170 yet? ;)

And finally, the question of the week from one of my customers: "What kinda pizzas do you got?"

So much for the theory of evolution....
Pistoff - [pistoff@uci.net]
Monday, April 23, 2001 10:37:20 PM
IP: ppp135-pm4-coosbay.ucinet.com

Just a quickie before I go to bed. I was looking through last weeks CR a little more and saw I din't finish one reply.

Lady Mystic> <Thank you> Almost missed my common courtesy. You're welcome. :) <What CR Info pages do you use> Well the one I use is the CR Archive. That's really about it but I like to look at the pics and colors.

Must sleep now. Good night. :(
Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Monday, April 23, 2001 08:45:11 PM
IP: adsl-141-155-109-64.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Spurting out of your monitor and making an oogey mess, it's a little something I like to call "Some stuff I have to say!" Another kooky, crazy commentary from the mind of me!
[Kooky, crazy commentary is a copyrighted feature.]

"Openness" in the CR: Hey, I'm all for it. We all need to be more open and honest. That's why when I tell you about how great the sex is with my bisexual girlfriend (who lives in Niagra Falls, Ontario, Canada, if you didn't know), you know it comes from the heart. We have sex. Lots of great, hot sex. And she's bisexual! Of course, being a logger, I don't get to see her much, but when I do, it's sex, sex, sex, all the time.

Again, I'm sorry, I'm doing a show for one here. Well, two actually. ;]

Patrick, CrzyDemona: Hey, let's let cooler heads prevail and all back off of the situation with Xenatrek and Josh. Is a flame war really worth your friendship? These petty disagreements are tearing us apart. But don't go crazy! This is no reason to leave the CR for good just because of differences in opinion with another!!!

Heh�.I'm sorry, that was probably evil, but c'mon-every single one of you couldn't be less surprised that I did it, right? :)

Food at the Gathering: Oh, the guests will be seated at the table with the fans? Something tells me that's a bad idea waiting to happen. Nobody wear a Jericho t-shirt when they're sitting next to Marina Sirtis, I doubt she'd get the joke.
You know why this is a bad idea? Cause people like me would ruin it for everyone. I have this insane desire to go there just to cause a food fight. First one to hit Frank Paur with the shrimp salad gets a prize!

Stephen: I'm not slamming you, because you are more than titled to your opinion. But I just don't know how anyone could logically call Buffy TVS a "bad gothic version of 90210" and then say that the XFL plays "a heck of a game of football". Trying to justify both of those statements is a scientific problem that would make Einstein's brain turn into scrambled eggs.

Speaking of football, I would welcome all of you to join me on the Redskins bandwagon, for what will surely be another year of mind-staggering mediocrity. Here's crossing my fingers for an 8-8 season!!!

Lady Mystic: I compliment you on your work to disprove (prove?) certain theories. Frankly, though, and I mean this as no slight, but by doing so you set upon yourself a task more daunting than Oliver Stone trying to prove that Oswald was not alone. Back and to the left, back and to the left my friend.

Buffy Stuff: The good news about this situation is that A) UPN is saying that they will make Buffy their flagship show, much like they are doing with Voyager now. I think this will cancel out the "UPN will not promote it" fears. Voyager, inexplicably, is doing BETTER in the ratings this season, and I think this is because UPN is promoting the fact that there are only a few shows left before the end.
And B) Joss Whedon is happy with the move. As I said before, why would Joss want to stay on the WB? Have you heard what WB executive Jamie Kellner said about the show? He totally disrespected AND badmouthed the show to the press! Folks, you don't want those kinds of people running your program. Better that the show be in the hands of people who are actually going to let Joss do his thing without the criticism. With the amount of scratch that UPN is putting into the program, and the dedication they've already shown towards it (they even have a plan to get Angel on their network as well!), I think the show will work well at its new home.

FINAL FANTASY MOVIE UPDATE: This is sort of odd, but I like it nonetheless. Apparently, a rather saucy pic of the babe from the upcoming Final Fantasy movie is going to / is appearing in the upcoming / current Maxim issue. To see the pic of a hot computer generated babe in a barely there bikini, CLICK ON MY NAME.
I must say, wow. If this girl was real, I wouldn't have to bother with my bisexual girlfriend from Niagra Falls, Ontario, Canada.

And finally, some Bab 5 stuff: Apparently, JMS has posted some info on the upcoming Babylon 5 telefilm, "Legend of the Rangers". The sets are being built, the cast is almost all in place, and the film is set to start shooting within a month. The current rumor is that the popular Bab 5 star that will have a guest spot in the movie will be the loveable G'Kar. Kick ass!
The GREAT news about this all is that this is looking more and more like a *pilot* for a new series, instead of just a telefilm. Even JMS is referring to the movie as "the show". I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Monday, April 23, 2001 08:02:57 PM
IP: 66-44-63-54.s308.tnt5.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

looking at pic
Siren
Monday, April 23, 2001 07:52:58 PM
IP: adsl-80-122-75.dab.bellsouth.net

Okay today was harsh. First, I woke up early for my philosophy class and handed in the paper, which was supposed to be 5 pages (I didn't know that until after class) AND it was padded and large font-ed at 4 pages. I hope I don't fail too miserably. I only need a C to pass the class, so I'd better get at least that grade.

I finished my programming project, but the freakin upload site doesn't work so I have to wait till tomorrow to actually hand it in. Tonight I have to work on my physics homework and other fun stuff, and I have another programming project to start that's due in a couple weeks. Argh.

Registered for classes on Friday: Fluid Dynamics, Thermodynamics, Materials Statics, Matricies, and Statistics for Engineers. Sounds fun, huh?

Guandalug: <<fanfic>>: Thank you for doing something. I notice that gargoyles-related site operators are often...LAZY. They let their sites degrade until nothing on them works. If you're gonna keep a site up, keep it up, otherwise get rid of it!

LM: God DAMN that's a long post. Here's a long response. <<grunting and talking in cave-tech speech>>: And that would be different from normal...HOW? <>: Oversharing Penalty! 10 Yards! <<What gives you the opinion that I know very little>>: Well, I don't want to go into gory details. I guess it would depend on the level of psychic connection. But most of the people who've peered into the depths of my mind aren't quite the same ever again. <<things change with time, new experiences, age and maturity>>: If I don't get the last one, will things still change? <<Interesting viewpoint>>: I thought so. <<Nice to see that the LD/AI/power suit project discussions are getting somewhere>>: Why? I mean, I know why, but why from YOUR view is it nice? I guess you can always hope that FS takes the money from the sale of that stuff to me and buys you a phat rock...<<how is displaying a couple's intimate sexual arousals and activities while they are happening>>: It wasn't that graphic <<are happy for your stable, happy relationship>>: I'm not. In fact, I'm rather bitter about it. <<Some people in the room may not be as comfortable>>: If they're not, let them speak up. You can't speak for a group of people that may or may not exist. <<his words: "A gentleman never tells.">>: And his problem with telling was...? <<They didn't care at all about anything but sex and their jobs at the company. Sex being the first priority>>: There's other stuff? <<Remembers numerous times in the past where eating strawberries had a direct effect on my arousal>>: Note to self...<>: Try making them more visible AND accessible in other parts of the site, like from the TGS stories page. <<you don't think that non-engineers rely on duct tape just as much as engineers>>: They don't. Duct tape is, by its nature and its versatility, an engineer's tool. Much like a slide rule in the days of old.

Lain: Possible dates for my time in Canada: May 25-June 3.

Stephen: <<DO NOT FORSAKE IT, AND MAKE YER PAYMENTS ON TIME!>>: That goes without saying. If I can't afford the payments, I'm not using the card.

Aingeal: <<too much to do>>: YUCK. Sounds like a bitch.625. Best of luck.

Beth: <<Who knew sugar and fat could help deal with medication withdrawl symptoms?>>: Sugar and fat help EVERYTHING.

Crzy: First things first. Kerblinkity? WTF kind of word is THAT? 8-) Second, that was meant to be a harsh joke at Sheraton's expensive. Okay anyway, yes, I've eaten at the Universal Sheraton numerous times, and quite frankly I'm not impressed, especially as $60 dinners go. Assuming for a second that having a "guest" at my table doubles the value of the meal, getting me to pay $30 for that would be...well, a trick. The fact that I wasn't impressed with the food doesn't mean YOU have to put in any additional work to "head off problems" or whatever. I'll go somewhere else. The selling point of the dinner isn't the food, anyway. The selling point is eating with guests and other events that occur during the banquet. Oh, I did have one question though: who decides who sits with who at what table, and how are those decisions made? Pulling names out of a hat?

Ah well, I'll probably just hang with Rayvn and Coyote and eat somewhere's else...I'm on a tight budget this summer cuz I'm saving up for that shiny new Titanium Powerbook.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, April 23, 2001 07:52:40 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-117.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Josh - *Kerblinkty* um... why do you have a problem with the banquet at the Gathering? Let me see if I can clear things up a bit for you.

"Partrick: <<will not be "low quality hotel food.">>: Yeah, right. Have you ever actually EATEN at the Universal Sheraton? "

No, I don't think we ate there the day we both went to the Sheraton. (correct me if I am wrong, Patrick). But I have eaten there SEVERAL TIMES. Including a sampling of the exact dinner we will be serving at the convention. Now, I am a HUGE fan of IN and OUT, but this stuff beat it to DEATH. It was truely a fantastic meal.

Have you eaten there? Did you have a bad experience? I honestly want to know so that I can head off any problems in advance. But if you haven't eaten there, then I think maybe you should reconsider what you are saying.

Now, at the banquet. There will be one or MORE of our guests at each table. Along with the 4 course meal (did I mention the food was delicious?) We will be having our awards ceremony and quite a few door prizes (some seriously good stuff!) Don't forget about the Q&A that will be happening as well! It is going to be a very big event. I do hope you change your mind and decide to join us.

If you have any other questions about the Banquet, you can drop me a note or refer to the Gathering website. :)
CrzyDemona - [crzy_demona@art-chicks.com]
Monday, April 23, 2001 06:07:35 PM
IP: 1cust131.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

*enters slightly dazed*

Good Lord, where am I!?! What day is it!?! Oy vey, Earth to Beth! This last 48 hours have been hell on my body. I was having a moment or two of pure stupidity and for the past two nights decided not to take my night time medication. Now, this medication helps me sleep at night since insomnia is a trait of my Asperger's Syndrome. I havn't gotten a moment's sleep for 48 hours! When I went to school today, I felt like I was on crack or something. I kept swaying around in circles, breathed in fast short breaths, felt very sensitive to the cold, was hungry as hell, and had to keep my hands in tight fists to prevent myself from jabbing something sharp into my eyes. This scared the crap out of some of my freinds, who kept telling me to go home and sleep. But I told them, no, I have to stay in school my mom will kill me if she finds out I haven't been sleeping these past two days. I had to postpone a test in physics to tomorrow (that's actually a good thing). But as the day progressed I started to feel better, but still ravanesly hungry. Luckily, two of my friends (including David) bought me a doughnet, and I felt much better afterwards. Who knew sugar and fat could help deal with medication withdrawl symptoms? Finally I got home, and went straight to bed for a nap. I just woke up after 1 1/2 hours of sleeping, and good God, I feel so dazed. I can't tell my folks what happened today, because I'm not interested in a lecture and a lot of yelling. :P

Don't worry about me guys, I think I'm gonna live with my body some what intact. ;P

*staggers out*
Beth H.
Monday, April 23, 2001 05:04:08 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

LM> **hugs** Thanks! <<A lot of couples tend to do that. Nice, isn't it? :)>> YES! It's actually very nice. Although I'm still getting used to it, since I've never really had that before. But it's still very nice. :)

XenaTrek> <<Arkham officials will be waiting for you at the Phoenix Airport for pick up. *winks*>> Heh, not if they can't catch me!!! Trust me, you just *try* catching me anywhere in Arizona if I don't wanna be caught...bring 'em on, Arkham! j/k ;)

Stephen> Hey, great to see you! :) <<Words of wisdom to all those who have yet to get credit: DO NOT FORSAKE IT, AND MAKE YER PAYMENTS ON TIME!>> YES! Exactly! Believe me, my Dad had this drilled into me from a very young age. Although I thought it was totally weird of him to do at the time, it's very true. **goes off to pay bills** Ugh. ;)

Doug & Kit> <<College tuition funds set up by our parents, yes>> Wow! Congratulations on having those. That must have been very nice. Nice of your parents, too. :)

XenaTrek again> <> Heh heh...it's already too late, for the takeover has begun...oh, wait, pretend you never heard that. ;)

Caliope> Happy Birthday, fellow Taurus! ;) Hope you have a great one. :)

Winterwolf> Yay! Can't wait to see you at the Gathering too! :)

Coyote> **hugs** You get better soon! That's an order! j/k ;)

Okay, I'm in a verrrry strange mood tonight. I guess that's what happens to me when I don't have homework...hm... ;)
Ravyn
Monday, April 23, 2001 04:40:26 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

ACK! My computer is leaving me!!! I'll be back in a week or so.. but my computer is going home tonite... byebyebye... ::hugs wolf:: thanks for the hugs winter
Aingeal
Monday, April 23, 2001 02:44:36 PM
IP: iprism.southernvirginia.edu

Hi! I have to make this really short as I�m posting on borrowed time that isn�t my own. Plus I have to wrap up early today being my sister�s birthday and all. Hopefully I�ll have time to catch up eventually... It�ll be tough since I�m working on three projects now and will probably have more piled on soon. The easy carefree days are long gone! This is typed with haste so it might not be as sensitive as normal.

Picture of Winterwolf! Take a look and see me as envisioned by Dreamie! :D

http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/dreamie/images/wolf.jpg

Dreamie> Thank you for this awesome work! Wow! A picture of me as Winterwolf! This is such a wonderful gift. I treasure it always! ^_^

Caliope> **BIRTHDAY HUGZ** Happy Birthday! Feliz Cumplea�os! Otanjoubiomedetougozaimasu! ^_^ Well now I know you are a Taurus! Is your b-day today or later this week? If it is today then you have the same b-day as my sister! <Roswell> I really didn�t like last week�s episode and the upcoming one just look worse and worse. Make it stop! Or tell me it is just some horrible dream. Oh well. We just might have to find another show to babble about together. ;P **FURRY HUGZ**

Aingeal> Can�t shoot you sorry. How about a hug instead? **HUG**

Lady Mystic> <reads comment to Kit and Doug> I see a few problems with refraining and totally gauging everything that you do. First if you become overly preoccupied with this might be offensive or taken the wrong way I could see posting as taking a much longer time than just typing up some comments. And if you really are too concerned then I imagine that you might not post anything at all. Everything you say and do reflects upon you. Second I think it really can kill spontaneity. Sometimes it is a wonderful thing to just live and be in the moment. It can also be a beautiful thing to share that with others. Finally I think you may lose the true you. You should be true to yourself saying what you want to say and more importantly what you mean (I need work there myself). That is not to imply that you go out and say something vengeful or hurtful. I think it is one of the reasons we say deposit your sanity, if you have any, at the door. Anyway that�s just me. But I do value your opinion and feel you make some strong points. <

Daniel Johnson> <Jim and Sammi> I�ll be praying and hoping for the best. :(

Siofra> Welcome to the CR! Enjoy your time here.

Coyote and Ravyn> Hurray! It will be nice to see you two at the Gathering! :)

Mecord> It sounds like part of adulthood but not the whole story. Life is what you make of it. In school as in all of life you must learn to what to use and what to simply understand. Good to see you even if just for a brief moment.

Emambu> I hope to get to chat with you soon. I wish you the best and that your crazy life gets better!

SOROW> Hey what have you been up to? I�ve missed our email back and forths.

Lexy> That is just soo wrong! I�ll be sure to say prayers for you and your mom. :(

Well I have to end this. Bye everyone. I hope to squeeze time enough to post again reasonably soon...

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Monday, April 23, 2001 01:21:16 PM
IP: ice.greyinteractive.com

*comes in*

Just signed up for classes for next semester...I think I am gonna try for a double, ceramics w/ and emphasis on creative writing. So's, I have an 18 credit hour set-up for next year. *sigh* Meaning? = I reallllly need to get off of my @$$ and buckle down even more. I gotta go walk down to Osco and pick up the photos for my computer art project. *hopes they came out decent*

lain : *HUGS HUGS HUGS HUGS HUGS HUGS HUGS HUGS*

Warps: sorry I won't be around much the next couple days; I have three books to re-read and foundations work to do, not to mention finally finishing up that other icon I promised Imzadi.

*exits, munching on a slice of dried mango and glaring at Val. ;) *
Lynati Kshudra - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
South of Sanity
Monday, April 23, 2001 11:43:52 AM
IP: 205.184.255.233

****Kyryn runs into the CR and pulls out a huge bazooka. She takes aim and fires at Aingeal (while still running). A huge cream pie explodes all over Aingeal. Kyryn posts as she continues running towards the nearest exit.****

Aingeal> Well, you didn't say with what! Happy run-by pieing! BTW, break a leg on those finals!

Lain> Go, girl!

Stephen> Glad to see that things are going well for you.

Kit and Doug> Congrats on the new car! May you have many miles of happy motoring!

Gunjack> Hey! Are you planning on coming to A-kon? If so, I'd at least like to meet you. Hmmm! On second thought that might not be a good idea. If you and my gun-loving husband, Okami, get together, I'll probably never be able to pry you apart.

Later, All!

*****Kyryn continues running out of the CR. She stops for a moment, legs still frantically spinning, as she realizes that she has run out of an upper story window. She looks down, looks back up at the CR, waves goodbye, and disappears downward. A moment later the snap of wings unfolding is heard and she glides into view again and heads away from the CR (Oops! Almost forgot I had wings for a moment!).****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Monday, April 23, 2001 10:50:10 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Re: Ravyn:>><<engineers taking over the CR>>Now all we need is a ChemEng to round it out. >> I could try to talk my friend who graduated as a ChemEng to pop in here, but I doubt her busy schedule and newly married life will allow it.
XenaTrek
Orlando, FL, USA
Monday, April 23, 2001 09:31:27 AM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

crossovers - I always thought that 'Now & Again' should have a crossover with 'Pretender', given the revelations we have about the Gemni Project.

The idiot is home today. It's hard to be nice to the idiot when he wakes you up in the morning, knowing that you will not get to sleep until after 1:00 am the next day.

**BFTS RP**
*The Realm*
DPH says to Jason, "I'm here on unofficial business. I would like a meeting with the . . . government. BTW, who's your friend?"
*BFTS universe*
SuperSpeed and Plastique head to sleep in different rooms of Plastique's house. The spirit moves in and takes possession of SuperSpeed's body and takes the body to the living room, where a spell awaits.
*MEANWHILE**
Lunatic and Lunacy read their new orders: "Head back to base". They gladly start their trip back to base.
**END BFTS RP for now**
Daphne, I could use a response to where I left things. Why does the Spirit want possession of SuperSpeed's body? Will Plastique be able to stop the Spirit?
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Monday, April 23, 2001 09:23:08 AM
IP: max1-60.cwy.cei.net

Lady Mystic: I too apologize for those posts. Kit and I are just so comfortable with everything about ourselves, our feelings, our sexuality, etc. most of the time, we often forget that other people won't be comfortable with us talking about it. :( Apologies to everyone who did feel uncomfortable, hope they can be accepted. We'll keep it toned down from now on. <Firestorm's co-worker woes> Geez. I've thought about working at Office Depot before, but now I don't think I want to. Glad FS got out of there, and condolences on all you both had to go through. Make sure when y'all finally get hitched, you joyride the Just Married vehicle through that store's parking lot a few times. That'll show em. :) <finances> Thanks for the congrats. Hope y'all can soon be saying similar things about your own financial state. You too, Stephen.

Must be traveling on now.
Doug
Monday, April 23, 2001 09:17:40 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.45.dlls.grid.net

Lady Mystic: College tuition funds set up by our parents, yes. <reads over bits concerning Office Depot> We have a lot in common past-wise. My sympathies. Glad Firestorm doesn't work there anymore. <sexy posts> Doug and I didn't think about people being uncomfortable. Guess maybe we should have. :( Apologies to anyone who did feel uncomfortable at reading those posts from us, we'll try to tone it down from now on.
Kit
Monday, April 23, 2001 09:01:19 AM
IP: pool-63.52.167.190.dlls.grid.net

Re: Buffy moving to UPN and Concerns w/ Show being pre-emptied by Sporting Events >> The other Entertainment News Sites have popped-up the move. Only one has frowned upon the idea. UPN is notorious at least down here in Orlando as well as up in Lansing (IIRC, UPN Affiliate is located in Southfield) for pre-emptied shows w/ mostly basket ball, (especially when Star Trek is on, at least we get to see it again on Saturday for Orlando). If the game runs into overtime, instead of showing the show from the beginning its usually in progress. That just drives me nuts.

Stephen Jr. > Re: Buffy Movie >> I liked the movie too. It is very different from the television series. Its odd to go from dark comedy to dark dramma.

Saw the previews for the Witchblade serials. They're still going to use the 'suit of armour' for the outfit rather than the outfit Perez has on in the comics.
XenaTrek
Orlando, FL, USA
Monday, April 23, 2001 07:59:05 AM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

Buffy: There have been rumours that WB will be so stupid as to cancel Angel in retaliation for BtVS moving to UPN. Which would be incredibly foolish, since UPN will merely swoop in, snatch it up, and add it to their lineup. Frankly that would be preferable to having the shows on different networks. It makes x-overs less likely, and plus it's just weird when you consider how much events on one show can interact with the other. Btw, it's better off at UPN than it would have been at the big networks, because even if its ratings doubled, it would still be pulling in, what, a 6.5? A 7? Not enough to survive on a bigger network, whereas UPN will be perfectly happy with 3-4 million viewers in that demographic advertisers love so much. And two more seasons have been confirmed for $100 million, which is good. The sports issue is definitely a concern, however, because here in Philadelphia, UPN picks up a lot of Phillies, Sixers, and Flyers games. *worry*

Happy B-Day to Calliope, btw. And thanks to whoever it was who suggested the trick for viewing posts in dark colors, it makes it so much better :)

Sincerely, Allaine
Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, pa
Monday, April 23, 2001 07:35:51 AM
IP: 64.80.115.200

Heylo... can someone please shoot me? I've got too much to do.. shouldn't be posting, but need the break. I've got 2 finals today, plaus finishing up a final paper, as well as finishing up 2 major video projects, and sending most of my crap home with my parents :( AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Anyway... I'm almost in the clear.. if i can get through today I'll be doing good. I get to go to MD this weekend and see someone, and I won't be single by tuesday. :D

Anyway. I will post when life settles some... see y'all later!
Aingeal - [avc_lady@yahoo.com]
hmm.... Dragon country?
Monday, April 23, 2001 05:22:11 AM
IP: iprism.southernvirginia.edu

Greetings all...

BtVS DISCUSSION - In truth, I love the movie more than the TV series, so all this talk about the WB losing the show to UPN doesn't rankle me. IMO, the show basically started out as someone's attempt to build on the movie's pop-appeal, but seeing as the show revolved around a relatively young cast (rather than the movie, which focused on Buffy herself for the most part), it just seemed to me like a bad gothic version of 90210... no offense meant to the Buffy-fans in here, but like I said, this show just isn't my cup of java.

DOUG/KIT - Cool to hear the two of you are doing so well on your house and living expenses! Hopefully I'll be able to do the same in a couple of years...after my tutition is paid off, and my credit is on the mend. Ugh...

Words of wisdom to all those who have yet to get credit: DO NOT FORSAKE IT, AND MAKE YER PAYMENTS ON TIME!

CALLIOPE - Happy B-Day!!! ^_^

COYOTE - Hope you get better quickly, bubba! We need you hale and hearty by the time G2k1 comes around... ^_^

SJ - In truth, I don't think we've seen the last of the XFL... it might not have been the ratings giant some people were expecting, but it still played a heck of a game of football. As for all the bad press it got, consider history: Originally, there was only the NFL, then some people put together the American Football League (aka AFL). The two were a contrast in styles - the NFL of old being a more conservative school, while the upstart AFL took risks, and was flashy as all get out. Eventually though, the two leagues faced off against one another to prove which was the best of the best in pro football... and several decades later, they had merged into the NFL that we know today.

My point being, is that when the AFL was formed, a lot of "football purists" denounced it, saying it would never last. I see a similar set up here with the XFL... it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we saw Vinny-Mac's little franchise come back next year for another season.

And while on a football note, did anyone check out the NFL Draft? From what I hear, Tampa Bay got what they were looking for to bolster the offensive line, and according to the papers - even though it's not even pre-season yet - they're placing Tampa Bay, Balitmore and a couple other teams as front runners for the 2002 Superbowl.

Well, all I can say is this; we may have gotten Brad Johnson and some other good players, but unless the coaching staff opens the offense up more, Tampa might do a repeat of the 2001 season (shoots a glare at Tony Dungy)... YOU HEAR ME, COACH!? LET'S GET HUNGRY FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP HERE!!!

WRITING UPDATE - FINALY! I got myself under the gun last night and started work on my novel "For Love of The Bloody Vixen" again. This time, working backwards from the end, I got five pages of Chapter Six done. I figure if I can do that much a night, provided I continue with forward progress working backwards(?), I should have the rough manuscript done by mid-summer, perhaps sooner...

Also, going to get the latest "Moray & Co." story polished up and sent off for Sabledrake new issue. Hope it meets with approval. ^_^

Well that's all from me for now. Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Monday, April 23, 2001 05:17:08 AM
IP: 2416419hfc196.tampabay.rr.com

Found this on a Entertainment News Site, unless I see it on other News Site, I'm not sure how solid this is:

Sold! Buffy Moves to UPN April 22, 2001

During five years of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Sarah Michelle Gellar has faced zombies, demons, vampire suitors, and the death of her mom, but the Slayer never could have predicted this: A move to UPN.

Snapping up the WB's prized series is a major coup for UPN, whose only hits have been WWF SmackDown! and Star Trek: Voyager. The two-year licensing deal, which is good for 44 more episodes of Buffy, was reported late Friday by Variety.

As soon as Buffy came up for contract negotiations, other networks began bidding on the hit show. Industry speculation was high that the Fox network would end up with the Fox-produced series.

The WB was reportedly unwilling to pay more than $1.8 million per episode to the show's producer, 20th Century Fox, while UPN stepped up with a reported offer of $2.35 million per episode.

"Creatively, we've had a great partnership with the WB on Buffy the Vampire Slayer over the past five years, and we are grateful for their contributions in making the show a hit," Fox Television President Dana Walden said in a statement. "Unfortunately, the WB did not share our vision or passion for the show's future and, quite simply, UPN did."

Gellar had spoken of leaving the show that launched her as a star if it switched networks, but quickly issued a declaration of her loyalty to Buffy, regardless of its place on the TV dial.

Angel, the Buffy spin-off that stars her brooding ex-beau of a vampire (played by David Boreanaz), will stay on the WB. However, the UPN deal promises to resurrect the vamp-with-a-soul series for a miminum of two years if the WB should cancel it.

Reuters contributed to this story.

XenaTrek - [XenaTrek]
Orlando, FL, USA
Monday, April 23, 2001 04:38:47 AM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

Rayven > Re: Coyote> ... And yes, our minds are a mess...scary thing is, we think alike...;) >> Arkham officials will be waiting for you at the Phoenix Airport for pick up. *winks*

Speaking of Food... I think there is Vietnamese resturant nearby that my Aunt and my mom said to check out. We can get our favorite soup Coyote, granted it won't be as 'perfect' as my aunt, but it will surfice. :o)
XenaTrek - [XenaTrek@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Monday, April 23, 2001 03:49:39 AM
IP: proxy2b.lmco.com

beloved, gaze in thine own heart,
the holy tree is growing there
from joy the holy branches start, and all the trembling flowers they bear.
the changing colours of its fruit have dowered the stars with merry light;
the surety of its hidden root has planted quiet in the night;
the shaking of its leafy head has given the waves their melody,
and made my lips and music wed, murmuring a wizard song for thee.
there the loves a circle go, the flaming circle of our days
gyring, spiring to and fro in those great ignorant leafy ways;
remembering all that shaken hair and how the winged sandals dart.
thine eyes grow full of tender care;
beloved, gaze in thine own heart

gaze no more in the bitter glass
the demons, with their subtle guile,
lift up before us when they pass, or only gaze a little while;
for there a fatal image grows that the stormy night receives,
roots half hidden under the snows, broken boughs and blackened leaves.
for all things turn to barrenness in the dim glass the demons hold,
the glass of outer weariness, made when GOD slept in times of old.
there through the broken branches, go the ravens of unresting thought;
flying, crying, to and fro, cruel claw and hungry throat
or else they stand and sniff the wind, and shake their ragged wings: alas!
thy tender eyes grow all unkind:
gaze no more in the bitter glass.

beloved, gaze in thine own heart,
the holy tree is growing there;
from joy the holy branches start, and all the trembling flowers they bear.
remembering all that shaken hair and how the winged sandals dart,
thine eyes grow full of tender care:
beloved, gaze in thine own heart.

-w b yeats
lain "now my charms are all o'erthrown, and what strength i have's mine own" iwakura
*in the bitter glass*
Monday, April 23, 2001 01:37:11 AM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Sorry, CORRECTION:

<<True, but if you fixed it once, it stands to reason you could do it a second time.>> & response under comments to Mercord go to Gside instead. Sorry about the mix-up, I pasted copied text into the wrong spot.
Lady Mystic
Monday, April 23, 2001 12:24:37 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

*GASPS* Sorry about the length of my post, I didn't realize it was *that* long.
Lady Mystic - [<-- GATHERING 2004 BID !!!]
Monday, April 23, 2001 12:05:15 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Fire Storm: <<Wo Ai Ni>>
*HUGS* That's so sweet. :)

<<Movement bad. Drinking good. ;)>>
Sounds like a twisted anti-drunk driving slogan. Now all you need to do is start grunting and talking in cave-tech speech again. ;)

<<SHUSH! I don't want everyone to know I am human!>>
Sorry. :( Well, you *used* to be human. Wonder if everyone here knows that you are not only a Xenomorph but fae as well.

<<Hmm... remember that picture of my co-worker? Made him look TOO good as a woman!>>
Thank you. :) Although, I wish his friends didn't react to it the way they did. :(

<<Please! Don't make me test the ignition coil with my tongue!>>
*L* You know I won't. But I may have to keep you from trying. *L*

<<Screw the force! The REAL power is in the Tape of the mighty duct!>>
*L*

<<Seduction is SO much more fun! That�s why women do it so often! It is fun for them.>>
And *you* the last time I remember. But then again, I can seduce you with my charms/traits without even trying or intending to. And I know how *much* you love it. ;)

Imzadi: <<But the fact that every once in a while you post a response to someone is nice. No Lady Mystic would mean one less intelligent, collected opinion.>>
Thanks, again. :)

<<How little you know.>>
What gives you the opinion that I know very little just because I don't think being psychically connected to you is dangerous? Please clarify. (FYI, I prefer not to be psychically connected to anyone but loved ones. Hence, the desire to not be connected to you.)

<<One of the top activities at camp was for a group of kids (guys and girls) to go through seventeen or cosmo and laugh at how rediculous the sex tips were.>>
I remember doing something similar to that when I was a kid. :) But things change with time, new experiences, age and maturity.

<<This is a privately commissioned project!>>
But that's only one project... Besides, it'd be nice to see FS construct a *real* AI (and see where that project goes) and not just a sex robot, even if the sex-bot is exceptionally designed.

<<I've used all of them at one point or another.>>
That's good to know. Thanks for responding. :)

<<NOOOOOOOOO! NOW I HAVE COOTIES!!>>
*L*

<<Duct Tape IS the force: it has a light side, a dark side, and holds the universe together!>>
Interesting viewpoint.

FS/Imzadi: Nice to see that the LD/AI/power suit project discussions are getting somewhere. :)

Kit: <<Good point on Cosmo.>>
Thanks. :)

<<If it's about the Josie and the Pussycats posts, well, please remember the main purpose of those was to amuse the CR while reviewing a great movie.>>
I'm sorry, in advance, if I offend or anger you (or anyone here for that matter). I just thought I might as well explain it in here since I would like not just yours but anyone's feedback on this. I also want to point out that this is my opinion and know others' thoughts and opinions on the matter may/will not agree with my own.

I knew those posts (and other posts in the past) were for the CR dwellers' amusement. (Although, based on a few people's reactions I have to wonder it the amusement was with you or at you. :( ) But how is displaying a couple's intimate sexual arousals and activities while they are happening and in full swing a form of amusement for others. I'm sure many of the CR's inhabitants (including me) are happy for your stable, happy relationship and overjoyed that the two of you have a happy and satisfying sex life, but do we need to see it exhibited in here, particularly as detailed as yours and Dougs' posts tend to be on this matter. I understand that the two of you happen to be more open about those things than say FS and I, but that doesn't make it any more acceptable due to its portrayal and subject matter. Some people in the room may not be as comfortable with the subject matter by default or with the display of a couple's sexual amorous activities when they lack it in their own lives yet long for it.

FS and I used to exhibit our sexual amorous activities in front of everyone and used to discuss said activities with everyone as well. But we stopped publicly displaying our sex life once we started to notice that certain people disliked seeing and hearing this stuff and that it affected others negatively. Many of our friends (my sister included) were single and desperately longed for a significant other. Seeing us like that caused great pain, of which I will never forget witnessing. That is why FS and I refrain from displaying our sexual activities in here and in most public instances.

Out of care and consideration for others, please re-think what you post, how you post it, and to what degree you display the matter. (That's why I commented on FS's "The less said, the better" statement. I think he meant two things by this: his reaction to the posts and his suggestion for future postings dealing with this subject matter. You know, the 'Less is more' motto.) Either way, if you are in a condition of acting before you think then please refrain from posting all together until you regain composure.

Let me also say that I apologize if I have misinterpreted your public displays of sexual activities.

<<manufactured homes>>
Thanks for answering my questions. :)

<<Thanks for explaining your curiosity.>>
You're welcome. :)

<<Doug and I get those now and then, more often online than IRL.>>
Well, I can understand why people might get you two confused. (You probably already know all the reasons.) It's not a few little things that cause so many people to mix the two of you up or think that the two of you are one person, it the *number* of little things combined that are the cause. You two often word things in similar or identical ways, have similar or identical opinions (that are often worded the same way as the other's opinions), share the same IP address (as you've mentioned), etc. And since the two of you have posted for the other in the past (and have mixed your selves up when posting) and often post/vote as one entity or are referred to as one entity 'Doug&Kit,' people tend to think of you two as one person or have a hard time distinguishing the two of you apart. But I also see bits of personality differences show through in yours and Doug's posts, most of the time anyway. Maybe I see the differences because I'm more familiar with both of you as individuals. :)

<<Doug has at times been teased mercilessly about me for much the same reasons Firestorm has about you>>
At FS's last place of employment his co-workers initially thought that he was a 'single, 23-year-old virgin who was all work, no play'. Their opinion of FS kept getting scaled down, a fraction at a time. *L* They tried multiple times everyday to get information about FS's sex life and mine. They didn't care at all about anything but sex and their jobs at the company. Sex being the first priority. They finally got the hint that FS wasn't going to discuss our sex life (his words: "A gentleman never tells.") and eventually lost interest in discussing FS in the daily office rumors. Thankfully. It was torture trying to civilly put up with the questions, pre-determined and unyielding opinions, and the unwillingness of people to back off.

Which brings me to Office Depot. That was HELL! FS not only had to put up with the usual co-worker and manager discomforts but also a flirty co-worker who tried to break FS and I up and used FS in the process, and rumors that dealt with everything from FS's work habits, suspected personal habits, his activities with the flirty co-worker, mine and FS's relationship (rumors dealt solely with the suspected malfunctions and negative aspects of our relationship), his likes and dislikes (in practically everything), the assumption that he was stealing from the store and that he was probably a criminal... the list goes on and on. Most of the co-workers' thoughts and opinions and rumors concerning FS and/or I were completely false and way off the mark, and everyone preferred to believe the rumors and false opinions of other co-workers than the actual true as told by us directly. :( And of the dozens of times I've been there during FS's employment, they still suspected that I wasn't his girlfriend, just someone posing as a make-believe girlfriend as a favor. *sighs*

<<certain people in his life never met me, I wasn't yet sure I wanted to meet them>>
I know how that feels.

<<pictures can be anyone>>
And in Office Depot's case: a person can be anyone. :\

<>
Oh, I know how that feels. :(

<<No other assumption has ever been so amusing and yet so frustrating to me at the same time.>>
Here, here. I totally agree.

<<Crushes: Good point, LM, about them not being meaningless.>>
Thank you. :)

<>
No need. I understood what you meant. And I understand that you and Doug have crushes on what you *think* the adult forms of Ariana and Graeme will be. Perfectly simple and acceptable by me. Maybe others would have understood and accepted it more if you two stated it that way. Oh well. :\

<<love being the ultimate aphrodisiac and all>>
I know what you mean. *looks at FS* I know EXACTLY what you mean. :)

<<Strawberries are a close second, but not that close.>>
*Remembers numerous times in the past where eating strawberries had a direct effect on my arousal*

Kyryn: <<Coding>>
Thanks for answering my questions. :)

Ravyn: <<Heyas! :) I like seeing your posts around here also.>>
Hi! Thanks! *HUGS* I definitely like seeing your posts here too. :)

<<we think alike>>
A lot of couples tend to do that. Nice, isn't it? :)

Daniel Johnson: My condolences on James' passing. :(

<<It seems that Jim's sisters, who have had little contact with him for years, have taken over all of the arrangements. And since Sammi is "only" his fiance and has "only" been with him for around ten years, she has no say in the matter.>>
Sorry if this makes you more saddened. I just need to rant a bit.

*** RANT ***

A similar thing happened to my father when his former girlfriend (almost fiance -- they had been seriously discussing it), Molly, died. They took over Molly's apartment and belongings before my father had a chance to gather up his things. Since she hadn't made up a will, they had rights to all her belongings as stated in a contract at her building. They auctioned off all her precious belongs, of which I know she would have wanted given to valued friends. They didn't even give my father a chance to gather up all his belonging and presents that he had given solely to her that we knew she would have wanted him to have. They packed up what they couldn't recognize and assumed was his into a little cardboard box and had him pick it up at the auction. Most of the contents in the box weren't even his and weren't things he had purchased for her. (We even lost a pair of precious, old slippers that were crocheted by a dearly loved, elderly relative from Canada.) They made it so he couldn't legally walk into the whole apartment building! They treated her belongings like crap and cremated her just because it was the cheapest thing to do. And since she never made a will specifying her wishes, they did what ever they pleased. She was the black sheep of the family and always felt like an outsider. The family member Molly and my father were closest to was Molly's mother. But since everyone in the family disregarded Molly's mother's opinions and requests (on nearly everything) and that the mother's physical and mental health were deteriorating, we were helpless in the matter. To this day we don't even know what became of Molly's ashes. Knowing them, they either threw them in the trash or disposed of them through other means, or tucked them away is the smallest corner of an attic (subject to the elements of nature).

*** END RANT ***

Siofra: Wow! You are so close to FS and I! We live in Dearborn, a suburb of Detroit. FS used to go there practically every day due to his former job. My father's girlfriend lives just outside Ann Arbor and is an Ann Arbor school bus driver. Small world! :)

<<but the school here doesn't like minors in art>>
UofM doesn't like minors in art? *panics* How so? What other quirks do they have? FS and I have plans that may include UofM (Dearborn and/or Ann Arbor) so any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

<<its people like you that ruined the pride in getting an art degree for people like me>>
Oh, I am *so* reminded of kids who took art classes just because, in their words, "it's a blow-off class." Makes me VERY angry too.

Jannie: <>
Well, at least I'm not the only one. :)

Yooper: <<Hello fellow Michigander.>>
*smiles*

Sevarius Jr: <<I have to say that if you have sex with both genders, but prefer one over the other, be it male or female...you're NOT bisexual. You're either hetero or homosexual. If you prefer one over the other, it doesn't matter if you have sex with both genders, you're not truly bisexual. If you like both equally, that's the case, than you are bisexual, but I would argue that such a thing is almost nonexistent.>>
Interesting points.

Aaron: <<Well, I use the CR archive itself. I'm sure I would use the other pages, if I knew where they were.>>
*sighs* The link at the top of this page stated as "Comment Room Information" will take you to the index page that directs to *all* comment room information material. The "Add Comment" page includes links just under the logo that direct to selected pages within the CR Info area. If you can get to one page you can get to all of the pages because every page has navigation at the bottom directing to all main sections within the TGS website's CR Info area. The navigation comprises this text: "Index - Admins - Rules - Images - Text Colors - Archive - Pic Request - Other Images - Polls - Timeline." Even the CR Archive pages (aside from the archived weeks) have this navigation. Also, if you click on "Comment Room" via the side navigation on any of the CR Info pages you will be taken to the index page for CR Information. I don't know how you could have missed these aids but I hope this helps. :)

<<...we thought way too over the top for anyone to take seriously, April Fools gag.>>
But many people *did* take that gag seriously.

<<But it was a JOKE.>>
So, many people have been hurt or negatively affected by jokes and gags IRL and online. What makes this different?

<<mixed up identity>>
Thanks for answering my question.

<<I'll see if I can find the exact link.>>
Thanks. Please do. I've been searching the CR archives so much lately for a wide variety of data that I'm getting quite burned out and need a break before perusing the archives leisurely.

<<If you like. I don't think it really merits a mention tho'.>>
Um, didn't this happen a year or so ago? I was speaking figuratively. I don't keep any fandom journals. I meant something that would be remembered by people in the fandom for years to come.

<<We amused the CR for a week or so.>>
I know it got the CR dwellers' attention, but I don't think it was pleasant or funny. I know it wasn't for FS and I. Confusing and alarming, but not pleasant and funny.

<<...people will be back to mistaking us for each other again.>>
I'm sorry.

<<BTW, I didn't think you and FS would fall for it for a minute, since he's done work for me, and I paid him by personal check.>>
Trust me when I say that FS and I have experienced worse scams. So anything's possible. :(

Gside: <<major discussions: Those are the ones most likely to start flame wars, and it's sometimes better to stay on the sidelines.>>
That's one reason why I don't post.

<<other continuing discussions: Those are the fun ones, but they need be in a topic that interests you should you want to contribute.>>
I know.

<<Eh, just keep replying, and eventually you'll get into something that interests both you and someone else.>>
Trust me, theory is different than reality. It doesn't always work. And when it does work, I usually get pulled away due to RL and thus my absence causes all results of my efforts to revert. Just the natural process of things.

<<Just drop a couple wangs. Works for me.>>
What's a wang? If you mean new ideas and topics -- almost always do so. They usually get between zero to a couple of replies. And the replies rarely grow into discussions, even when I respond to the replies.

<<But what have been the topics of those discussions? Mostly wang and hentai tentacles.>>
But that is what has rooted you as a major part of this CR community.

<<The next time you have a multimeter out, just hook up a couple wires to the V/R and common ports, make sure it's set to AC voltage, and grab the wires.>>
Oh, that. Even I've done that a few times in my life. To me, it's just a thing done to pass the time and appease curiosity, and not worth remembering.

<<Recently I was viewing the source of the text color pages for the hex values, but generally, I just like knowing all that info is stored somewhere for emergencies.>>
Thanks for answering. What did you need the HEX values for?

<<They don't trust the power of duct tape enough.>>
What, you don't think that non-engineers rely on duct tape just as much as engineers? Stereotypes. :P

Mecord: <<What happens when a child looses sight of his dreams and becomes consumed by the destructive boons of necessity? Why, he becomes an adult.>>
I *so* know what you mean and wish it weren't a part of reality. :(

<<True, but if you fixed it once, it stands to reason you could do it a second time.>>
Fixed what? The time display problem? Someone else (Gorebash or Chris Rogers -- the guy who runs Wyvern Web) corrected that. FS and I can only tweak *sections* of files that Gorebash gives us access to, which is what happened when FS and I updated the coding for the CR. And even then, those updated files have to be emailed to Gore. Gore decides when the files get uploaded to the server. Hence, Gore controls the functions and maintenance of the CR. (FS and I don't even have access to the s8 server.) FS and I have access to the TGS section of the web server, but even we don't want to intrude on the majority of files and folders within the TGS server. And all other areas of the server TGS is hosted on (ie: other clients and operating system programs) are individually password protected. Even those who have access to the TGS server can't get to those other areas. Besides, we're not going to break the trust given to us by the TGS staff by hacking or snooping around the server. So even that is out of the question, just so you know. Does that clear anything up?

Coyote: Hope you feel better soon.

Doug: <<college tuition annuity funds>>
How did you and Kit receive these funds? College fund made by parents?

All caught up again. And a longer post than last time! Sorry.
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Dearborn, MI
Monday, April 23, 2001 12:02:26 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

*peeks in*
Imzadi> <<gargoyles-fans.org fanfic site is DEAD>> Thanx for the info. Didn't even notice that. I try to get the admin to either fix it or finallz give me access to install the new version of the Archive...... *sighs* it's about time the thing gets replaced, it acts up more and more lately.

*poofs out to contact the webadmins*
Guandalug la'Fay - [Guandalug@gmx.de]
Sunday, April 22, 2001 11:59:15 PM
IP: nx7.hrz.uni-dortmund.de

Argh, what a stressful day. The other guy who was supposed to work tech support tonight was "generously" given the day off by the shift manager, who then informed me that I was the ONLY one working. Can you say STRESS? On top of that, I had a problem I couldn't solve! I hate when that happens. I've barely made any progress on my programming project, but I did get a lot of cleaning and laundry done!

Cali: Happy birthday! Don't do anything I wouldn't do!

DPH: <<Growing up smart was not very . . easy for me>>: Growing up smart isn't easy for anyone.

Partrick: <<will not be "low quality hotel food.">>: Yeah, right. Have you ever actually EATEN at the Universal Sheraton?

Ordell: <<Fox owns btvs>>: Oh. Now I get it.

Rayvn: <<just to save some bucks>>: Oh I could make SUCH a racist joke right now, but I'll keep quiet since I think I'm the only person here who would get it... <<we'll go for a spin in my car or something>>: And if you believe that I have ocean-front property in Kansas to sell you! LOL.

Mecord: Depressed much? Nonetheless, all those things about school are dead right.

DJ: <<Robin Hood>>: DING DING. You win...nothing.

FS: <<it ain't my server>>: No, but we'll blame you just the same. <<what is the possibility of Imzadi getting a female roommate>>: Zero, since I'd rather have my testicles cut off than live with a female I wasn't sleeping with. <<Screw the force>>: Mind altering orgasms? Anyway, Duct Tape IS the force: it has a light side, a dark side, and holds the universe together! <<It may give you bad ideas!>>: Right, cuz hanging out in this CR is SOOOO much better! NOT. <<exclusive rights>>: I don't want exclusive rights. I just want the product. Do whatever you want with the patents, etc. I'm not paying for that. Just build me the LD and the power suit. And you have complete creativity with both projects, provided they match all of my criteria. And you said you could make me the light suit for only a couple K-bills. If not, how much for just the rocket pack? <<Linux kernel>>: No, its got a Mach Kernel. Its based loosely on FreeBSD, which is a Unix, but not Linux. Very different. And that's a long way from a free OS. OS X is $129 USD. <<Any relation to OS/2?>>: Yeah, in the same way that Microsoft Windows is related to a pepperoni pizza (i.e. it's not). LOL. <>: Fascinating. Who do I yell at to get it working? <<why women do it so often>>: I thought it was because they can't get power any other way... ::puts up hands defensively:: <<Biggest complaint about that sub shop>>: If I can't find you corned beef in LA, I'll give you another K towards that light powersuit. <<chicken strips>>: Is that a reference to the McD's or the porn shop? <<can't figure out how the thing works>>: Most of the time, they don't...

<<the scroll Xanatos sent himself>>: I just re-read the scene. Here's my best guess: David is going to cast the spell later...but on HIS SON. That would explain how Alex is still alive in 2158. Normally, I'd have given credit to his fay heritage, but Fox ages normally and she's more Fay than Alex. If I'm wrong, I expect the spell to be cast to save someone's life. David wouldn't dare cast the spell on himself and outlive his wife and child.

People concerned about food at Gathering: Don't worry about it. The valley has lots of good places to eat up and down Ventura Boulevard.

Gside: <<An indication that nasal sex isn't a good thing?>>: I have a great story about that...but I'm not gonna say it here. <<when you're an engineer, it becomes a reflex>>: No wonder chicks are so blown away by my intelligence, I don't even realize I'm using it! <<the association of sex and your progeny would bother most people>>: Tell that to my parents. My bed's been big enough for two since I was 12 years old! <<MATLAB doesn't quite count as full programming>>: Q|_|i37! I am 1337 H4><0R! 3Y3 0wnz j00! 3Y3 \/\/i11 |<0D3Z j00 i|\|70 743 gr0|_||\|D! <<they'll go before you>>: Um, I don't think that's implied by the quote. <<frees up people to do more valuable jobs>>: Like collecting trash, which even computers don't want to do! <<it stands to reason you could do it a second time>>: And, more importantly, SHOULD do it a second time. <<depends on your definition of win>>: No, it doesn't. <<Big honking resistors and a fan>>: The only device in my apartment that can, by itself, trip the breaker and cut off our power. Learned that the hard way.

I'm free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally.
-Unknown

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, April 22, 2001 11:32:31 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-27-51.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Emambu> Good luck with the choir, and you are quite welcome for whatever minimal help I may have provided for the paper.

And apparently a happy birthday to Cal�ope.

Imzadi> <<A REAL demon wouldn't even need to seduce>>: AKA, the Shikima.
<>: Nah, when you're an engineer, it becomes a reflex.
<<what the hell are they doing in her sinuses>>: An indication that nasal sex isn't a good thing?
<<why did they freak her mom out so much?>>: I'd think the association of sex and your progeny would bother most people. Especially here what with puritanical founders.
<<Something about mSQL query index>>: Mayhap it's an indication that Guandalug should get implementing.
<<I'm not a web programmer, just a MATLAB one>>: MATLAB doesn't quite count as full programming.
<<Sooner or later, everyone you hate will die>>: And with good planning, they'll go before you.

DPH> <<computers took away so many more jobs than it created>>: So what? If we can automatize a job it shouldn't be done by a human any more, and therefore frees up people to do more valuable jobs.

Fire Storm> <<eating at the McDonalds next to the porn shop at 2am>>: Ah, the good things in life.
<<Hey, it ain't my server>>: True, but if you fixed it once, it stands to reason you could do it a second time.
<<what is the possibility of Imzadi getting a female roommate?>>: I never intended for the phrase to only apply to roomies.
<<what is the average voltage of a human, anyway?>>: Haven't a clue, but I think it depends on how far apart you hold your arms.
<<What that mean?>>: Not quite sure. It's another Shampoo phrase, and I think it's something like "I love my fiancee."
<<wet t-shirt and no bra... the guys win either way>>: True, it just depends on your definition of win.
<<Things NOT to do when you are bored>>: Number 2: Compulsively read Ranma lemons, looking for Mousse to get lucky.
Found a good one recently, too. The AMG goddesses cursed Happosai to have to help people, so his first case was training Mousse in an alternate way to defeat Shampoo. But on the bad side, I also ran across some bad yaoi. Disturbing.
<>: I should hope not. No corned beef at the Stage? Scandal.
<>: Big honking resistors and a fan.

Oh yeah, and it's time for the next mp3. Continuing the death theme (but with a nice sax part), you now get The Pandas Must Die by Corky and the Juice Pigs (of Gay Eskimo fame). A song I'm rather confidant is a favorite of Ranma's.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, April 22, 2001 10:51:47 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

I should note- the house was originally a 50K house- 29K is less the downpayment Kit and I made from our savings.
Doug
Sunday, April 22, 2001 09:31:36 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.101.dlls.grid.net

Firestorm: Gas. As for how we can afford it, Kit and I did not purchase a 120K house or a 30K house. It's a 29K manufactured home on 38K land. 60K total. The Ranger is only $420 a month (it's a 20K truck, not 30K, Rangers are compact pickups), $210 a month for insurance. Kit and I each bring home about $1300 a month from our respective jobs, and we still have a bit of money left over from our college tuition annuity funds (she'll graduate at the end of this semester and I've already graduated, we both have about 20 grand left over). Her bike's already paid off. Don't worry, we're in the black and doing fine.

Coyote: Sorry you're sick. Hope you get well soon.

Mecord: <grimaces> Geez, my school never depressed me that much. Sorry you feel that way. Hope Cat can get you out of the bad mood.

SJ: Congrats on having a cool girlfriend. Bet the times when you do see her are loads of fun.

Happy Birthday Calliope!
Doug
Sunday, April 22, 2001 09:09:22 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.101.dlls.grid.net

Gside: <Were'nt you supposed to have fixed that?>
Hey, it ain't my server.

Yeah, but in context, what is the possibility of Imzadi getting a female roommate?
<So true. They don't trust the power of duct tape enough.>
Screw the force! The REAL power is in the Tape of the mighty duct!

Only thing like that I ever worked on was the time we caught a wasp is electronics. Oddly enough, there WAS a mouse in the room at one time, but I think we scared it off. We didn't get a hold of it, unfortunately.
Say... what is the average voltage of a human, anyway? Mine kept going from .6 milivolts AC to 1.5 milivolts AC.
<Lesson 2: "Woda Airen.">
What that mean?
<Boo yaka.>
Damn straight.

White T-Shirt and no bras? DEFINATELY!
Although... wet t-shirt and no bra... the guys win either way!

Siofra: <Me or in general?>
General... and your roommate.
You an Ann Arbor native or do you come from somewhere else in Michigan?

Things NOT to do when you are bored: (It may give you bad ideas!)
#1: Read the Anarchist Cookbook from 001.HTML to 245.html (IE: Cover to cover)

Doug//Kit: <Ford Ranger>
Diesel or Gas?
Question: How can you afford that? I mean, you just purchased a house for $120K and just got a $30K house! Your payments must be at least $700 a month on just those two things, let alone utilities, food, ETC.
Although, I guess with the both of you taking home at least $1500 a month total, it could be done.

DPH: 
And if it is the postal service, I have about a 50% receive rate on packages.

Imzadi: <There's one on the side of that building over there...>
But never a flesh one, eh? Darn...
<In that case, I'll pay for YOUR betas. But that doesn't mean I necessarily want to play with them...>
It's ok... I'll find ways to make money on them! I've just added the projects to my business plan. And, since I have a prospective buyer, they have leaped ahead of a few projects on the timetable.
Besides... for exclusive rights, (LD's, Power Armor), I'd ask for a few mil and COMPLETE freedom with creativity and timeframes.
I see these projects (In a way they are one in the same), if I can get it working (and I am pretty sure I can), as a GREAT moneymaker.
I know the love dolls could retail for at least $6K. I know because someone is making a non-moving silicone love doll (full size Asian woman) for $6k. Add a few more features (Walking, talking, cleaning, cooking), and you have robotic servants, and those ALONE could sell for thousands! (Now... I just gotta get that damn AI working...)
And the battle suits! I *KNOW* I could find buyers for those ones! Make them for $20,000 (heavies), charge $250K! The United States alone is developing this.
(Also... I gotta find some way to pay for the REALLY expensive projects! Sequentially!)
Gifts of large amounts of money are always accepted, though!
(And don�t worry� the version you would end up getting would be quite refined. As few bugs as possible.)
<OS X is neither linux nor free. Discuss>
I thought OS-X had a Linux kernel.
OS-X? Hmm... Any relation to OS/2? ;)
<he could just WILL women into having sex with him>
Yeah, but that could get boring after a while (A century or two!)
Seduction is SO much more fun! That�s why women do it so often! It is fun for them.
<the gargoyles-fans.org fanfic site is DEAD>
Remember that time during the chat when I asked if anyone could get to the CR? I think that server glitch crashed the fic archive.

SJ: <I've heard that it will play on UPN and TNN next season>
WTF? MORE sports on UPN? You know that they WILL pre-empt Buff for any sports...
Thank Oberon that Voyager is in its final season! My local UPN station carries 75% of the friggin sports in the area! Voyager is rarely on the day it is supposed to be on!

Patrick: <Banquet>
Yeah, but will there be time to get seconds and desert, or will it be like G99? No one could really get up during it because of the discussion)
<As I recall, Crzy and I ate at a sub place just down the street on the night of the Masquerade>
Biggest complaint about that sub shop: NO CORNED BEEF THE ENTIRE WEEKEND! (I know it wasn't Stage Deli)
<And I also recall the McDonald's adjacent to the XXX bookstore>
Fun for the family and fun for the parents, all in one place! Or...
Combine the two and you get a VERY Happy Meal! ;)
I swear... if they didn't have those chicken strips, I would have starved that weekend!
<Hey, come to think of it... no wonder Bill Clinton has moved to NYC. :P>
Poor Billy. Most of the porn shops have been voted off the island. (Figuratively AND literally!)
<G2001>
Are there fast food and other decent resturants very close to the hotel?
I am sure people don't want a repeat of the food situation at G99. (What was it... at least half a mile)

Has ANYONE in here ever opened up a hair dryer? I opened up LM's and drew the schematic... I can barely figure out how the thing works!

TGS: Hey look! And ACTUAL TGS topic!
Whatever happened to that scroll Xanatos sent himself back in TGS season 2 (Offers)?
(This topic was brought up in the Station 8 CR (The Owen/Puck question: Servant or Immortality?)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, April 22, 2001 08:16:31 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

I'm still asking that if someone has a concern about needing special arrangements at the Gathering, please e-mail us directly so we can work with you to ensure everyone is happy.

G98 - There was no dinner at G98. As I recall, Crzy and I ate at a sub place just down the street on the night of the Masquerade. And I also recall the McDonald's adjacent to the XXX bookstore. Hey, come to think of it... no wonder Bill Clinton has moved to NYC. :P
Patrick Toman - [gathering2001@art-chicks.com]
Sunday, April 22, 2001 04:46:22 PM
IP: adsl-64-109-192-119.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net

Imzadi:
<<(guess the movie)>> Um, "Robin Hood: Men in Tights?" I've always been fond of Mel.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, April 22, 2001 04:34:46 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Coyote> (I can't afford the banquet either.) ;) But heck, you won't be by your lonesome during that time...we'll go for a spin in my car or something, and then I'll buy you that burger. ;) And yes, our minds are a mess...scary thing is, we think alike...;)
Ravyn
Sunday, April 22, 2001 04:30:08 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

**enters hacking and sniffling**

Just a couple of comments before I return to my healing cocoon ... coughing and stuff made me call in sick from work today. :(

Patrick: Not to belabor the point any further, but this will be my last comment on it ... XenaTrek preregistered last August at G2K, and specifically brought up her concerns with Crzy. (And this isn't her word, I was there when she brought it up) So her concern at this stage in the game is a little understandable.

Mecord: Ye gods, that's a bit harsh, ain't it?

Ravyn: Good, then I won't be by my lonesome out of the banquet hall ... I didn't sign up for the banquet because, quite frankly, I can't afford it. (I'll split that burger, though ... ;)

Mind analysis: Yeesh, my mind is a mess, lemme tell ya ... beyond Ravyn and cars in general, everything else is a total jumble. :P
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, April 22, 2001 04:22:01 PM
IP: 64.243.214.114

<-- New pic for me, just seemed to fit my mood today.
these are rough times for me and I'm sorry I can't stay and talk, I just came to post something I've been pasting everywhere.

What happens when a child looses sight of his dreams and becomes consumed by the destructive boons of necessity? Why, he becomes an adult.

Thank you School, for killing my innocence.
Thank you for teaching me how to lie
How to cheat
How to reduce friends to nothing and feel good about it.
Thank you for turning me into a mindless automaton of society
For saving me from a life of thought and freedom
Thank you for wasting all my time
Thereby preventing me from being anything more than what you want me to be.
And thank you School,
For slowly killing the person who was me.

that's all for now, see you all after finals.
Mecord
Sunday, April 22, 2001 04:12:17 PM
IP: proxy1-external.logan1.ut.home.com

lain> Hey, I love the breakdowns of how you and Gunjack think. That's really cute! (Ack! Sorry! I said the 'c' word!) j/k :) I sure couldn't map out the way I think...Coyote and cars would be on there a lot...hm...:)

Josh> I'm already preregistered for the Gathering, just to save some bucks...;) And just for the record, I'm skipping the big dinner thing too. Getting me anywhere near an expensive event called a 'banquet' is just baaaad. ;) Way too formal for my liking. Give me a cheeseburger and fries and I'll be a much happier Ravyn. :)
Ravyn
Sunday, April 22, 2001 03:49:07 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Quick Gathering question:
Was there a dinner at G98? I can't remember...

Or we didn't, and thats why I kept eating at the McDonalds next to the porn shop at 2am.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, April 22, 2001 03:44:19 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Josh - <Buffy on Fox> FOX owns BtVS. If they were to air it, they wouldn't make any money. WB payed 1.3 million dollars per episode for the show, that's about $25 million a year. They offered to bay 1.8 for seasn six, but UPN offered the rediculous amount of something like 2.6 million an episode, which they could afford because (I'm guessing) Voyager is coming to an end. ABC offered something like 2.1. FOX just went with the best offer. FOX will still make the show, but they'd lose out on money id they were to air it themselves the money hungry fasicts...
Alan Coleman "Ordell" Waltrip - [alan0815@hotmail.com]
Odessa/Midland, TX
Sunday, April 22, 2001 03:32:24 PM
IP: d4ixk.odecpe.cableone.net

The banquet at The Gathering 2001 will not be "low quality hotel food." The Sheraton Universal is a hotel that routinely cater to the stars, and menu that has been selected is a full-service four course meal including dessert. Taking place during the dinner will be an awards ceremony and drawings for door prizes. Also, the tradition begun at the dinner at G99 will continue, with some informal Q&A with the many special guests who will be in attendance.

For more info, including the menu, please see our web site (click my name for the link).
Patrick Toman
Sunday, April 22, 2001 02:33:33 PM
IP: ac860287.ipt.aol.com

Imzadi - A bit angrier than DJ? It is difficult for my tone of voice NOT to be angry when I talk about the idiot/my dad.

It's good to know people can actually tell DJ and I apart, as opposed to when both of us appeared at the same time.

Hmm. I have been looking at the calendar. I think I am approaching an anniversary here.

It's funny that when I am talking to my friend (just released from the hospital) my whole tone of voice and demeanor change to a very pleasant one as opposed to the normal me.

Intellectual - Growing up smart was not very . . easy for me. Finding someone of equal or greater intellect whom I could talk to made the camp very pleasant and memorable. If I had kids, I might intentionally stir them away from the paths I choose, because of the problems it brings.

There is a guy where I work that is anti-tech. He prefers an agriculture based society. He was complaining about how computers took away so many more jobs than it created. I guess he does not count his job among those created.

Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday, I can't wait until my new PC comes in. Of course, I will have to install lots of software up front and buy a trackball and LS120 for it, but I just want to arrive yesterday.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, April 22, 2001 01:46:29 PM
IP: max1-64.cwy.cei.net

Its a beautiful, sunny, warm day in Berkeley, and as usual I'll be at my computer because I'm a nerd with a programming project to do. Bother me, please!

KIt: <<It's a truck though>>: "Here's your knife." "Sword." "Whatever." (guess the movie) <<way better. Trust me>>: I'm sorry, I just don't believe it. I can't even fathom a world where there is something better than chocolate (see my fic!).

Ordell: <<buffy moving to UPN>>: From one station I don't get to another station I don't get. Why doesn't Fox buy it? They're always making fun of their sh!tty programming!

Lynati: <>: I have high friends in low places...or something. Anyway, I know people in New York. <<LIKE YOUR NECK>>: And his creation? And it's neck? Into the seclusion of his somber bridal SWEET!? Or is that not a rocky joke?

Sorow: <<Looks good from here>>: On a high speed, peripheral pass, everything looks good, even Berkeley women.

Lain: First, I would like to tell you that I am in the planning stages of my trip to Canada. It is approaching 80-85% likely that I will actually GO and be able to stay with you for a couple days. <<screamers>>: Yes, I've heard of it. I skipped that one. <<tall skinny pale guy with well-kept suit and bowlar hat>>: Sounds suspiciously like...::gulp::...me. <<unless you say you WANT him>>: Wussy Satan. A REAL demon wouldn't even need to seduce, he could just WILL women into having sex with him (Something I've been working on for years now!). <<interpretations>>: You feel some personal guilt over the loss of your mom, as if it was your fault, yet clearly your dream is telling you that it was beyond your control. Satan is your dad, beating you, and your subconscious is telling you to fscking stand up for yourself. <<if i had 25$ from all of you.. id be RICH!>>: Not quite, esp. if it was that silly worthless canadian monopoly money 8-). <<anyone notice some amusing stuff>>: You and val are eerily alike? Or besides that?

Gside: <<I'm on a constant rotation>>: Fascinating. But it doesn't make dark blue any easier to read. <<Thinking? What's that?>>: See your own comment to me in your most recent post! I think THAT involved thinking. <<we all know what else you do four to five times a day>>: LOL! <<mass evacuated per time>>: Yes. Sorry bout that. <<hear what Freud would say>>: Ditto. The beheaded snakes/circumcised men thing makes sense, but what the hell are they doing in her sinuses and why did they freak her mom out so much?

Gathering: I will preregister at the last possible second. That's just the type of person I am. I think I'll skip the banquet, my time in LA is too precious to be spent eating low-quality hotel food for $60 when I could eat In-and-Out or even something NICE for much less. If anyone wants to go with me to dinner that night, let me know (I can fit 4 people in my car). What else goes on during the banquet so I know what I'm missing?

Emambu: <<I'm aware that I've been absent>>: It's a CR, not a high school detention. Drop by whenever it fits into your schedule. Some of us have more free time (and less of a life) than others. <<15-day DM>>: Wouldn't it still be the DL? On account of a crappy machine? Sorry to hear about your machine, by the way. <<critical interp of gargoyles>>: Congrats on the good grade. Gargoyles lends itself to good papers in so many ways, and since we're fans the papers are so much easier to write...allowing access to the high grades. You should be proud of yourself. That's so cool that you're gonna get your teacher hooked on it.

I don't know if the person who's in charge cares or even reads this, but the gargoyles-fans.org fanfic site is DEAD. Something about mSQL query index...I dunno, I'm not a web programmer, just a MATLAB one.

Icon project: My project has halted, due to a lack of characters to make icons from. Anyone wanna offer their art? I'm looking for a whole host of canon characters, and even some TGS characters would be welcome.

Think positive. Sooner or later, everyone you hate will die.
-Unknown

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, April 22, 2001 01:46:15 PM
IP: adsl-64-170-153-108.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

I'd just like to inform all of you that *I* have a bisexual girlfriend too, and she lives in Niagra Falls, Ontario, Canada. Unfortunately, she's a logger, so we don't get to see each other that much.

And no one in this CR will ever probably get that joke, except for maybe Mara. Rude and rude!

XFL: Well, did you enjoy last night's win by the LA Extreme in the "Million Dollar Game"? Gee, I sure hope so, because thankfully, that's probably the LAST you will ever see of the XFL. It's a mercy killing.
Well, maybe not the last. I've heard that it will play on UPN and TNN next season. At this point, why bother?

And speaking of UPN, they finally got Buffy? I had heard that the show was leaning that way. Frankly, I WELCOME THIS. The WB was totally disrespecting Joss and the show, to the point that one of the head WB suits was badmouthing the program and talking about how immature it was. Folks, if you're ever stupid enough to run down your own product, you deserve a good beating. With an encyclopedia, so that maybe, through the power of osmosis, some knowledge will be passed into your thick skull.
Joss was unhappy, towards the end, with the WB, and I'm glad that UPN got the show. I do think that the UPN will market the show right. The WB seems to care more for Dawson's Creek, or Felicity, or Roswell, etc., all shows that make me feel that the total annihilation of the human species would not be such a horrible thing if it meant no more of those types of programs. My only fear is what will become of Angel--I assume that it will stay with the WB, which does not bode well for it in my opinion.
Sevarius Jr. - [SevariusJr@excite.com]
Sunday, April 22, 2001 01:07:26 PM
IP: 66-44-64-160.s160.tnt6.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

*waves from the doorway*

Hello all. Yes, I'm aware that I've been absent for some time. My life is currently a torrent of challenges at the moment, and shows no signs of letting up until at least mid-may. The main reason why I haven't been posting here: my computer died utterly, and completely on the first Friday of April. I'm taking it into a shop when I head back home for the summer this Saturday. From what I know, the most likely solution is that machine overheated or is just not getting enough power to start. This could be because of the heatsink that's near the CPU (a quick and inexpensive fix), it could be a problem with the power supply (also a quick, inexpensive fix), or I could have burned out my processor (a quick, but very expensive--at least for me it is--fix). I won't know for sure though until next week, so for now I'm on the 15-day DM (Disabled Machine).

Other non-important news in my life: My tour got cancelled. I had already setup a time and place to sing in Philadelphia and in New York as well (and again I must thank Winterwolf for sacrificing time to help me out and apologize that it all fell through). However, I found out that no other work had been done for the other cities, and our director had been wanting to cancel it this year anyway. I'm also starting to get the feeling that our director does not care about our choir. We had our main Spring concert last night (this was what all of us had been preparing for the entire semester). Fifteen minutes before we go on, he's yelling at us that if we don't sing well he's going to go to the Music Department and have them cut our group. This, of course, is after we received praise FROM the music department earlier in the day. Our group always sounded good musically, but the heads of the department told us that this was the best we had sounded in over a decade. And yet our director threatened to CUT us off right before we were about to go on and sing in our main concert. Talk about a morale killer. *Sighs* I had words with him, and it wasn't pretty on either side. Actually, it's kind of funny. On Friday, I was elected to the officer's board of the group, which will put me in contact with our director on a much more regular basis. I look forward to the many shouting matches to come, wrought with profanity and threats.

So that's what I've been up to if anyone was wondering. Some good stuff did come out of these past weeks though. Remember my paper that I did on Fan vs. Critical interpretation on Gargoyles, the one that you all helped me out on by posting your feedback to use as evidence and thesis support? Well, I got my grade on it on Tuesday--> A. But wait there's more: My English teacher liked it so much, that she wants me to enter it in a scholastic undergraduate competetition for analytical writing for the university. The top two papers get published and walk away with some cash ($100 for first and $75 for second). The deadline is the 18th of May so I'm cleaning the paper up to get it submitted. Normally I would have kept my mouth shut and not said anything, but I do owe this to you. Had no one bothered to help me out, none of this would have happened. I may not get published, but just the fact that I was nominated is enough for me. No one else in my class got one (And there were English and Writing majors in my class), but my Gargoyles paper did. :) I'm also slowly getting my teacher and her son hooked on the show too. She figures that if her son is going to watch animated shows, then it had better at least be a quality show. I recommended the five-parter "Awakenings" to her. I hope they both like it.
So, in closing: Thank you all. You guys are the best!

*Enormous birthday hugs to Caliope* Happy Birthday, amiga! *Hands her a 64-pack of Strawberry Jello and a box of pixie sticks to add fuel to her unlimited supply of energy* ;)

I do miss this place, so I hope to be back for good in another month or so. 'Till then,

---Emambu
Emambu - [erikmambu@hotmail.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Sunday, April 22, 2001 11:37:54 AM
IP: box518.labs.pitt.edu

Once again, for the record...

No one is being excluded from the Gathering. I'm sorry if anyone had a bad time in Orlando and felt like they didn't get the full Gathering experience, but please don't take out your anger or frustration on the current Gathering staff. We are committed to doing everything we can within reason to accomodate fans who have advised us in advance of having special needs.

If anyone has special concerns, please e-mail us to discuss it or leave a message on the Gathering discussion board. Also, please remember that this is a two-way street. Our resources are not unlimited. Whether your need is for a special meal, an interpreter, or whatever... we can't make arragements to accomodate you unless you accomodate us by pre-registering so we know for sure you're attending the convention.

I hope this clears things up. There is no argument here, and there never was... so if anyone wishes to discuss it further, I'll ask that you please e-mail us and let us address specific concerns individually.

Thank you.

P.S. Pre-registration ends in just three more weeks. All mail-in and online orders for memberships, dinner, or t-shirts must be postmarked or timestamped by May 15, 2001.
Patrick Toman, Gathering 2001 Vice Convention Chair - [gathering2001@art-chicks.com]
Sunday, April 22, 2001 08:31:40 AM
IP: ac8734d8.ipt.aol.com

Since my area doesn't get UPN (so far as I know), I'm one more person who won't be able to watch "Buffy" this fall. Bother. (Admittedly, it might not have been that much better if FOX had picked it up, since it gets poor reception in my area). Why did WB have to decide to stop showing it, anyway? (That's a rhetorical question, BTW). I've got to admit that I'm not especially happy about this state of affairs.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, April 22, 2001 03:40:02 AM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup018.dialsprint.net

Todd Jensen> <<could you lose a lighter coloring for your post, please?>>: You should know I'm on a constant rotation. Dark blue is only up a tenth of the time, and I've used it many times in the past. Besides, Robby's already mentioned highlighting.

You know, when I'm back home too much dark on the screen causes the monitor to go fuzzy. Clears right up when highlighting (Netscape 4.7 highlights with a white background, my 6 here uses a navy blue). Sometimes it warps the shape of the screen in odd ways. I wonder if the electrons are effecting the capacitors in some funky way.

Siofra> <<already people have opened their mouths without thinking>>: Thinking? What's that? If you mean that thing with my brain, I try to do that as little as possible.
<<its people like you that ruined the pride in getting an art degree for people like me>>: Not you, just my brother. Granted, he did talk to the head editor for DC (or some other semi powerful person), but I don't think much will come of it. Though mostly it depends on which kind of art degree. With fine you'll starve, illustration you might live for a bit, but industrial design people will actually pay for.

Gunjack> <<Mummer's is the best>>: I've got a Mononoke Mummer's video that's quite good. Though the only one of the three I don't have is Dante.
<<co-ed water balloon/shaving cream figh>>: I still say the guys would have been too distracted to win.
<<When was this?>>: A while back. I think you commented on it when you got back from the bathroom (if I remember), said something about being lucky to know you or you being lucky to know us.
<<I've been hanging around the wrong crowd too long>>: Thank you. It's nice to know you're appreciated.
<<What you do is...>>: Does it being mechanical make any difference? Or just being a small spear like object good enough?
<<no work and all play, four to five times a day>>: And we all know what else you do four to five times a day.

You know, I really should have let Gunjack be fourth, but for a moment I was halucinating that he was Warpmind on MSNIM and saw that he already got first.

DPH> <<how many people could tell Daniel Johnson and I apart?>>: Oh very much so. All on style of posting and topics covered.

Imzadi> <<I'm assuming water's mass to be fairly constant>>: True, but I'm talking about mass evacuated per time. There's a difference between shooting out one ounce per second at 100 m/s and 100 gallons per socond at 100m/s.

Lain> I would love to hear what Freud would say about your dream. Especially the snakes and the window. Personally, I'm betting he would say the snakes represented something about circumcised men.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, April 21, 2001 11:15:19 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

*lain traipses in, looking decidedly pleased*

well thats it, folks :) last final completed and now i am SCOTT FREEEEEE!!! (until at least 7 may when summer session starts..

i went out with my buddy Plenty of Blueberries and my stalker buddy "anonymous" whom some of you may remember posted in here awhile back and had a nice dinner. then blue and i went back to his place and watched "screamers," a creeeeeeepy sci fi thriller about these dudes on a foreign planet, an energy crisis on earth, a war, and these creepy weapons called "screamers," originally designed as "mobile swords" that had developed their own AIs and morphed into psycho killing thingies with sharp knives and piercing war-cries...
gooooooooood movie.. very very good.. (though likely few of you have heard of it as its kinda old (1995ish?) and a canadian thingie by allegro films)
hey and did you know.. THE RED VIOLIN is a canadian film???????????? coooooooool... i didnt know that.. if you havent seen it DO!! GO GET IT NOOOW!!!!!

what else? oh.. i had the WIERDEST dream/nightmare i have EVER had this morning after i posted that i was going back to bed.
***WARNING... THIS DREAM/NIGHTMARE IS KINDA GROSS IN PARTS***
i was in the rez bathroom and the sinuses on the right side of my face were all stuffed up.. i was trying to un-stuff them and this big wriggly pile of snakes came out of my nose.. the REALLY wierd part was that none of the snakes in this ball had any heads.. (???)
so i gathered the snakes and put them in a clear plastic bag and took them back to my room where my mother was waiting.. i showed them to her and she, like a sensible person, was rather freaked out. i was starting to sit back on the bed beside her to talk when all of a sudden these black.. THINGS.. came slithering out of the wall, grabbed her and snatched her out of the window. she just kind of disappeared but her eyes rolled back in her head and went black when the things grabbed her.
so i was angry. somehow i managed to follow these creepy black things.. (anyone remember the movie GHOST? patrick swaze or whoever?? well the black things were kinda like the slithery black things that come along at the end of THAT movie.. probably where my brain got them).. back to where they came from. presumably this was "hell" or some close proximity thereof. the devil was there, or at least the dude that always APPEARS in the ROLE of the devil in my dreams was there. the tall skinny pale guy with well-kept suit and bowlar hat. sometimes with walking stick.
(without going into too many gorey details) he tried to seduce me.. but apparently he cant.. you know.. have sex with you unless you say you WANT him to.. and i didnt. he got really angry and knocked me around for a bit and i still refused. he was HOPPING mad by this point and kept trying to knock me down.. and i kept standing up every time. eventually i raised my hand and touched him on the shoulder. for some reason this had the effect of hurling him across the room into the wall. he gave me a look of horror and left.
then i woke up.
(way to NOT save my mum... : ( )

*********END KINDA ICKY DREAM>NIGHTMARE***********8

warpy gave me an interpretation earlier today but i was wondering if anyone had any other thoughts.. that is.. other than "eeeeeeiuuuuuuu...." theres gotta be some tasty symbolic stuff in there SOMEWHERE....

Siofra>> sorry if i insulted you.. i dont think that arts degrees are bad.. or worthless.. or anything like that. i just dont want to DO it. and i dont see the POINT of doing a degree in fine art if a) you dont plan on teaching and b) you arent passionate about it.. which i dont and im not..

all people offering me money>> wow.. if i had 25$ from all of you.. id be RICH!!!! : D
thanks for your generous offers... the form has been submitted and money paid, thank you.

DPH>> intellectuals?? bwa ha ha.. could do with some o THOSE meeself.. not this drunken pile of rats.. (sorry to those at western who are NOT drunken rats.. but you are faaar outnumbered....
yeah i knew about the CoC part.. i can live.. and i act a whole pile more conservative than i think.. and i can hold my own in a debate against bush, thank ye very much ; )
i think i will be fine IFFFFFFF i get in.. thanks for your offer of common sense though.. it is appreciated.. and i need more of it!
well see anyways
:)

and among other wierd things today, i noticed my wisdom teeth are coming in... eeee.. and they dont hurt AT ALL.. arent they supposed to hurt? oh well.. maybe the onslought of pain is nearing on the horizon.. or my nerves are really REALLY slow... or i am a psycho.. wait.. that last one is probably rather accurate....
; )

today on IM, val and i were comparing thought patterns.. the result was something like this:

lain thinks about: stuff god annoying father stuff philosophy hell god jesus stuff how do i make this plant grow gunjy.. oooo gunjy.. mmm.. stuff need food god *mission impossible music* dogfur stuff buddhism god..

gunjack thinks about: story gunfight cocking/loading guns H&K screaming defiance guns philosophy games tech guns tactics stories demons guns anime WOOOOOMEEEEEN!!!! guns, ooooo... lain.... guns guns anime...

funny, that.. ; ) anyone notice some amusing stuff about that? *I* can spot some...

anyway.. see you tomorrow, in between packing

love,
lain "defiant little beastie" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:35:53 PM
IP: dynrez216-32164.dhr.reznet.uwo.ca

Just checking on the living. Looks good from here.
SOROW
Saturday, April 21, 2001 09:03:50 PM
IP: a030-1016.dll2.splitrock.net

*stumbles in*

*mumble mumble* spent from 1 to 9 pm strait doing artwork *mumble mumble* background "demonstrator* at a high end alumni art auction that funds our school *mumble mumble* OD'd on artichoke salad and catered whipped mocha treats...*moooooooooaaaaaaaann*

well, the money they made IS going to next year's scholarships...which is me and half the school...

heh heh heh...I discovered I have no pride. and no shame. *opens paint-carry artbin to reveal quite a few napkin-wrapped deserts* Well, no one else was eating them! I could not let them go to waste! ;) :P
*sets several of them out on a convienient table* help yourself. Just don't eat more than 11 at a time...

Imzadi: yeah, and I was constantly (still am) wearing my tinted prescription glasses 24-7 two years before I even heard that song. and there is supposed to be FOUR of us, not three...this is going to be (in theory) over next winter break. and you are welcome to come, only I don't know where you would be staying...heh. I don't even know where *I* would be staying, because I am not sure that D.L. (well, her parents, anyway) is willing to put up four of us in her apartment, let alone five.

Siofra: aww. hmmm...*jots down "scottish moors"*

Oh, and does anyone here, TGS staff or other wise, object to me portraying TGS characters in a one-shot potential-webcomic that has someone telling Lucy's rookery (and others) the poem/song "The Highwayman" ?
(I can always simply not put it on the internet, if there is a conflict in copyrights or something. ...I mean, even MORE of a conflict in copyrights. Aw, you know what I mean.)

lain: ;) "sit in the chair and be good now" and become all that they told you...every finger in the room is pointing at me I wanna spit in their faces then I get afraid of what that could bring...when you gonna make up your mind cause things are gonna change so fast...and the atrocities of school I can forgive...I used to haze all clouded up my mind in the daze of the why it could've never been so you say and I say you know you're full of wish and your "baby baby baby babies" I tell you there're pieces of me you've never seen... I can't reach you I can't reach you give me life give me pain give me myself again..."
hmmm...maybe we could make a song-mix CD for your dad...? ;)
(...Neil said "Hi" by the way... ;)

Gunjack: I know that you are on IM right now. I am not really away, although I will be for the next several minutes. (...LIKE YOUR NECK!! BWAHAHAHA...err...nevermind.)

*stumbles back out to read the last monteh of Avalon High*
Lynati Kshudra
Saturday, April 21, 2001 09:02:09 PM
IP: 205.184.255.189

Ordell: <grimaces> Wonderful. Now Kit and I have to get cable by the fall if we want to watch Buffy Season 6. :(

Imzadi: Thanks for the congrats on the truck.
Doug
Saturday, April 21, 2001 08:15:20 PM
IP: pool-63.52.171.105.dlls.grid.net

Hey all. This news might came as really bad for any Buffy fans out there. It was annouced that UPN is going to be airing the show next season and I just was so surprised. Whedon says it's going to be the same show, but I just don't know... BtVS is run by some very respectable people, and if UPN attempted to corrupt the show itself (with say, a wrestling episode *cough* Voyager *cough*) I believe Joss would quit in a heartbeat, taking the show's talent with him. J. Michael Straczenski did the same thing when TNT tried to invaded his show "Crusade" after the successful venture of the picking up the final season of his former show "Babylon 5." TNT basically came to him and said "We want more sex, violence, and alot of naked women." JMS finally had enough, told them to go to hell and walked off. Now, two years later, a strong possibility exists that the SCIFI Channel is going to renew the show and JMS is one of the most popular scifi writers to date.

BtVS will *NEVER* last more than a season on UPN, not with it being dulled down to fit the I.Q. of UPN's main audience. UPN doesn't air quality programming. I'm sorry, but Voyager and Seven Days is "NOT* quality programming. If all this is true, season six will probably be the last season we see...

I do have faith in Joss. We should always have Angel, at least. I don't even *get* UPN locally, so I'll have switch back over to my satelite dish that I used back when our local cable didn't have WB either... I don't know. I'm disapointed. If they show *had* to move I'd rather it be on FOX, who might treat it with a little respect (if they can still shell out crap episodes of The X-Files, they could handle Buffy just fine). What do all the other Buffy fans think about this?

Alan Coleman "Ordell" Waltrip - [alan0815@hotmail.com]
Odessa/Midland, TX
Saturday, April 21, 2001 08:08:56 PM
IP: d4ixk.odecpe.cableone.net

Imzadi: <Enjoy the new car> Thanks! :) It's a truck though. But hey, it's nice, and at least there's space for my bike in the trunk bed now. <grin> <better than chocolate?> Oh yes, way better. Trust me. Strawberries are a close second, but not that close. :)
Kit
Saturday, April 21, 2001 07:49:18 PM
IP: pool-63.52.171.105.dlls.grid.net

And in conclusion: ARGH. I had a field trip today, and our bus broke down and we had to wait for two hours for another one and I didn't get home until 7 when I was supposed to get home at 330! That's 12 hours of my weekend wasted. I am SO billing the university for my time.

Tonight I have to do some laundry. And write up my programming project. That's it, I think.

Todd: <<we have no intention of breaking up>>: GOOD!

XenaTrek & Gathering Committee: Meet up in a chat room and f*cking work it out! There is NO reason that anyone should be excluded from Gathering. Sorry about your previous difficulties, Xena. That blows goats.

Lain: I'll front you the $25. Send one friendship braclet to... 8-) Or I'll just give you the $25, but then I'm not paying for dinner when I get up there. 8-) Or if you catch me just after I met a girl I might be feeling generous... 8-). Congrats on making a decision, and I sincerely hope everything works out for the best for you.

FS: <<interesting chat>>: No kidding! <<you ever SEEN a gargoyle in real life?>>: There's one on the side of that building over there...<<No pay for Beta's, no get exclusive rights>>: In that case, I'll pay for YOUR betas. But that doesn't mean I necessarily want to play with them... <<What does that say about OS-X?>>: OS X is neither linux nor free. Discuss. <<And that just goes to prove the point! >>: Touche. True, though.

Kit: <I'm lucky if I remember to wear my underwear each day>: Oh shit! That was for Jannie! <<love being the ultimate aphrodisiac and all>>: Better than chocolate?

Jannie: <<I'm feeling lucky if I remember to wear my underwear each day>>: I think more women should forget to wear their underwear every day, but that's just me.

Lynati: <<You've always got those dark sunglasses, covering half your face>>: The funny thing is, I do always wear shades. <<cookie dough and fudge brownie>>: My favorite flavors too! <<talk Val into seeing the RHPS>>: If you three are going to RHPS, I am FLYING TO NY to join you!

Gside: <<They don't trust the power of duct tape enough>>: Actually, any camp counselor at the camp I worked for, regaurdless of major, acknowledges the wonders of duct tape. Its quite amazing. <<And mass. Can't forget mass>>: You assume that neglecting to mention it means I forgot it. Also, I'm assuming water's mass to be fairly constant. <<use a lighter color>>: PLEASE!

Solomon: <<is it my imagination>>: No, most gargoyles sites are, in fact, dead or dying.

Siofra: <<people like you that ruined the pride in getting an art degree>>: That assumes that it existed in the first place. 8-) <<Industrial Design>>: Right now, the most high profile place to be an industrial designer is Apple. They win every major ID award every year because of their stuff.

Gunjack: <<a HORRIBLE mental image>>: LOL. <<dork>>: Nope, dork would work for that too. Sorry. <<PD firing range>>: I'm flying out to wherever Lain's working if that happens.

Doug and Kit: Enjoy the new car!

DPH: Yes, I can tell the two of you apart. You usually are a bit angrier in CR than DJ, who seems just generally calm (except for the friends dying bit last week).

If you do that again, I will be forced to hurt you with extreme prejudice.
-Brain, "Pinky and the Brain"

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, April 21, 2001 07:31:39 PM
IP: adsl-64-170-153-108.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Check out the site at my name link ... it's a site which tracks when TV series started on their downward spiral (or "jumped the shark" to use their terminology). I think everyone will be interested in the listing for "Gargoyles" ... most voters voicing their opinions on the show agree that it "Never jumped," while those who think it *did* jump generally think it jumped when it switched networks (and fired Greg). And one voter actually compared our show to a fine French wine ...

Anyway, check it out, and see where your show rates ... there's listings on a few shows with a lot of votes and voices that are rated as having "Never Jumped."
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, April 21, 2001 06:24:18 PM
IP: 64.243.214.157

Lain - As fate would have it, I have actually spent time on Harding University (in Arkansas) campus. The place is strongly Church of Christ, so much that as an SBC, I was told that I would feel uncomfortable staying there. That university is definitely has the conservative political outlook. On the other hand, that place has positive memories from my visit because I ran into someone of equal intellectual stature. It's darn hard to find someone of equal or better intellectual stature than myself in RL.

This gargoyles site is alive and kicking due to efforts of the TGS staff publishing stories from time to time. Currently, the TGS staff is doing breakdowns for TimeDancer.

Hmm. I am glad to know that I am not the only one who has problems with deliveries. Remember that I ordered the PC on April 14. Well, the PC was shipped out yesterday, the 20th. It will not arrive until Wednesday. Place your bets, people on when the PC will arrive. I am betting against Wednesday.

Quick poll: aside from color and images used, how many people could tell Daniel Johnson and I apart?
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, April 21, 2001 05:28:56 PM
IP: max1-6.cwy.cei.net

N=13, methinks.
Solomon - [solomonv1@yahoo.com]
Palma, Spain
Saturday, April 21, 2001 04:59:43 PM
IP: va1-b-cache.ono.com

TOP 10
DPH
Saturday, April 21, 2001 04:38:18 PM
IP: max1-6.cwy.cei.net

TV programming note: tonight at 10pm ET/PT the SciFi Channel is showing "Babylon 5: Thirdspace." If you're a B5 fan and haven't seen this made-for-TV movie, you've got to watch it.

Oh, and since I missed you before, welcome Siofra!
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, April 21, 2001 04:34:34 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Hey Top Ten I think! ^_^_~
Dubble
Saturday, April 21, 2001 04:16:06 PM
IP: webcacheh03a.cache.pol.co.uk

Top Ten!!! :)
Ravyn and Coyote
Saturday, April 21, 2001 03:51:38 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Goooooo....8!
Siofra - [Siofra7@hotmail.com]
Ann Arbor, MI
Saturday, April 21, 2001 03:49:21 PM
IP: bursley-219-53.reshall.umich.edu

Seventh, I believe.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, April 21, 2001 03:39:44 PM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

<Doug & Kit zip into the CR in their new Ford Ranger, happily blasting the radio, beeping the horn, and waving to everyone> We have wheels again! Yes! :)

Top Something!!
Doug & Kit
Saturday, April 21, 2001 03:31:01 PM
IP: pool-63.52.168.29.dlls.grid.net

5th.
Through Gside.
Gunjack Valentine
Saturday, April 21, 2001 03:25:31 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

4th.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, April 21, 2001 03:24:03 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

Third!!!
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Saturday, April 21, 2001 03:18:46 PM
IP: dial-7.ocis.net

!dnoceS
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, April 21, 2001 03:16:45 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

FIRST!!!
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, April 21, 2001 03:11:13 PM
IP: mp-217-202-155.daxnet.no