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:::bounds into the CR::: Hey Hey!! I haven't posted in a while....but I'll give it a shot....

Gside:<<I've already forgotten what the heck I was talking about.>> Bonus. ^_^

<<Awakenings on the Big Screen>> O.O cool!

Imzadi:<<: hehe...bet you do.
>>That reminds me...:::writes "Hot Topic" on her list:::<<Sorry, Dreamie, I don't dance. Hate to spoil yer fun>> That's fine with me, I don't either... I was planning on following my partner who, as far as I'm concerned, *can*. <<Hmmm, I have my favorites, but I dunno if they're what you're looking for.>> If it says "Dim Sum" on the sign I'm all for it. <<Hey Winterwolf! You're gonna become an icon!>> The main event, the showstoppa, the.... :::cough::: Nevermind. <<: Me too. Especially gift wrapped chicken and beef w/ broccoli.>> I eat Chinese food so much I find it exceedingly difficult to eat rice or noodles without chopsticks. On another note...Who wants to see Imzadi as, what he calls, "A gay surfer gargoyle"? :::giggle:::

Cali:<<lol I dont like belts, dont wear them, I'm fortunate enough to have my godmother, she sews, so she fixes 'em up for me
>> Lucky! ^_^ <<lol correctness aside, I just dont like to parade my undies about in public! Well not unconciously at least! :P
>> Whoa wait... you actually wear........(Kidding ^_~)

Robby:<<scars>> I have one crescent shaped one on my nose that you can't see unless I scrunch my nose... I got it at 6 when I fell on the side of a coffee table. And another on my left-hand index finger... it runs all the way down, kind of blotchy tough skin but not really noticeable. My parents aren't sure, but they think I got it when I was about two when I stuck my finger in some chemical in the garage :::laughs:::

Christine:<> DAMN! We were *that close* to heaven being a door away! <<Avalon Mists>> :::thinks about entering a pic...:::

Aaron:<<We've had "bigger is *always* better" beaten into our heads from day one.
>> Both of 'em?

<<How we met stories>> To be told at a later date.

<<proms>> I have no desire to attend it....which is actually tonight.

<<my type of man>> Oh let's see.....Shawn Michaels with dark hair and a goatee. Er... no wait...can I start again? :::grins:::

<<personal description song>> How 'bout...."Superhero Girl" from the musical Starmites? ^_~

:::waves at Shadowrider::: ^_^ Welcome back!

Ravyn:<<Election night>> Eh... I'll tell you later ^_~

Coyote:<<And as probably everyone here can attest by how occasionally-sickeningly saccharine myself and Ravyn can be sometimes>> :::gasps sarcastically::: NO! :::laughs and winks::: I think it's cute....and besides I know how much fun practicing it is.

Beth H:Congrats on David! ^_^ <<Quotes>> hum....."Sounds like the Sheep Effect."~~While talking about society in general in relation to popular culture and norms.

Winterwolf:<> Aw.... we all miss you in here too! I'll have to have a talking to with those Choosy Moms! Speaking of them... what kind of choosy mom chooses Chocolate Silk flavored Jiffy Peanut butter? 15 grams of fat and 12 grams of sugar in two tablespoons, and they retort with "But it's not the *bad* type of fat!" :::laughs::: 'Cause CHOOSY moms choose Jif. :::tickles WW::: ^_^

Aaron:<<<cuddling room>Only for the folks who don't feel exhibitionist. (Grinz at Shinigami)>> You have a good point.... I think I need both. ^_~

:::waves and bounds back out in search of a cuddling room:::
Dreamie
Saturday, May 12, 2001 08:25:34 PM
IP: acb5030c.ipt.aol.com

I'm sorry to hear about Douglas Adams' passing. (Check the Station 8 Comment Room for the obituary-of-a-sort that I wrote for him).

My local library has a couple of "Buffy" tapes, by the way, going back to the first season, and I checked them out just recently. Last night, I saw the first tape, one of the very first episode (the "Welcome to the Hellmouth" two-parter). It was kind of fun seeing how the whole series began again - not to mention there was a little additional treat in the form of a brief interview with Joss Whedon at the beginning, where he revealed, among other things, that originally Sarah Michelle Geller was auditioning for the role of Cordelia (!).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, May 12, 2001 07:56:43 PM
IP: ip58.st-louis27.mo.pub-ip.psi.net

*Lynati ducks in*

*takes a moment of silence for Douglas Adams*

Anita Blake: ooh, another Laurel K. Hamilton fan!! whee!
...and I don't know WHAT Imzadi is talking about; there will so be new stories; Timedancer is the next up, and should start in a month or so, or so I've gathered.

Gside: thanks. I did. about a total of 18 hours. :)

okay, I gotta get back to cleaning now. TTFN.
*exits*
Lynati Kshudra
South of Sanity, four days and counting
Saturday, May 12, 2001 07:44:06 PM
IP: 207.94.232.203

Josh> You asked how Madoc knew that Merlin was in Manhattan. Here's a scene from "The Darkest Hour Part 1" that explains that.

The Brocken, Germany

"My lord!" cried a sidhe knight, running into the throne room. "My lord!"

"Well, Maleger?" asked Madoc, looking at him sharply. "What is this about?"

"The boy's escaped!" said Maleger. "He broke free from the Redcaps in the corridor, and got away!"

"Got away?" asked Madoc, his voice even. "Got away where?"

"He must have escaped through the portal to Manhattan," said Maleger. "I felt an odd presence when Hudibras and I opened it. It must have been him. I did not know that he was free until I learned of his escape from the Redcaps, afterwards."

"And you have searched the castle?" Madoc inquired.

"All of it, from the watch-towers to the dungeons," the Unseelie knight replied. "He's gone."

Madoc frowned grimly, then turned towards the shadows that hung in the corners of the great hall, and spoke one word, in a voice of command. "Herne!"

A dark form materialized in the midst of the gloom, and stepped forward into the chamber. The stately, antlered figure of Herne the Wild Huntsman stood before Madoc, and silently bowed before him.

"Take your hounds, and go to the isle of Manhattan," said Lord Madoc. "Find the boy, Emrys Hawkins, and bring him back to me. But alive, and unharmed."

Herne nodded, and without a word turned and left the great hall. Maeve turned to Madoc, raising a single delicate eyebrow. "Alive and unharmed?" she asked quizzically. "You're being awfully tolerant toward the young whelp. I would have expected you ta ask for his ears on a platter."

Madoc shot her a sharp look, but did not reply.

The Unseelie queen opened her mouth to speak again, but thought better of it. Giving Madoc a last, curious glance, she turned to the other sidhe who demanded her attention and re-immersed herself in the ongoing battle.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Saturday, May 12, 2001 05:24:12 PM
IP: dialin-514-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

**Winterwolf leaps into the CR**

I'm free! I'm free! I finally got away from the evil nasty Jif monster! Umm... until Monday. Because "Choosy Mom's choose Jif!" ;)

What's really been going on all this time you ask? I've been busy putting together computers under a $1,000 in my spare time for family. I start with a nice 1.33 GB Athlon A7M266 with 512 MB DDR RAM. Once I was done with that fun I was given the task of redesigning the Jif web site along with all the other larger projects I'm still on. It's okay but they keep redesigning it as we work so it makes it hard to finish. Ah but what can I say, "Choosy Mom's choose Jif!" ;P

Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there! Oh BTW I've heard "Choosy Mom's choose Jif!"

A moment for all the dear pets that have passed. Rev. Attila, Stormy, Dolly

They are true friends and will be missed.

Welcome back Shadowrider!! I hope to trade stories before you have to leave again.

Well I suppose Imzadi missed me after all he made me into one of his icons. ;P Imzadi I'm flattered. :D

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky> I read all the TGS story arcs. I'm up to date and waiting for the next season to start.

Oh yeah did you hear? "Choosy Mom's choose Jif!"

I miss seeing Niamhgold, Caliope and Dreamie in here. I miss you three so much! **huggles** **HUGZ**

Caliope> I'm a winterwold now? ;P

I guess that's all for now. The choosy mom's are calling. Because "Choosy Mom's choose Jif!"

ARGH! MAKE IT STOP! MAKE IT STOP! NO MORE JIF! "Choosy Mom's choose Jif Winterwolf!"

**Runs out of the CR howling and twitching**

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Saturday, May 12, 2001 04:46:14 PM
IP: adsl-141-155-109-10.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Josh> After the Unseelie were banished from Avalon 11,000 years ago, Oberon placed the incantation up to block the Unseelie from returning, sort of like changing the locks. A Fay needs to know the incantation to reach it, like having a key, while a mortal needs to recite it. Madoc didn't have it, and he needed it to reach Avalon.

I'm not sure if I'd classify it as either Fay or human magic. Todd, or anyone else involved with SUW want to take a stab at this?
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Saturday, May 12, 2001 04:30:01 PM
IP: dialin-514-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

<<Someone was asking about Sgt. Rock? This is Xander's one-time alter-ego.>> There is also a comic book called "Sgt. Rock" which might have been what Xander was talking about.
Anonymous
Saturday, May 12, 2001 03:01:22 PM
IP: ppp-228-022.usc.edu

So my boss calls me up at 1215 yesterday and says "dude, you're working tonight!" and I said "No, I have a philosophy final tomorrow at 8AM." And he said "Too bad, you're working tonight anyway. That philosophy stuff is all B.S." So here I am, working. Probably shouldn't mention that this is the same ethics class I cheated in. 8-) Oh well, at least I can study while I work, I think. I take three calls all night.

Today at 8AM was my Ethics final. It was SOOOOO easy. The prof gave us 17 essay topics and told us we'd have to write 3-5 of them. Well, we only had to write 3, and I was done in an hour and a half (we had three hours to take the exam). The best part is that I don't care at all, since I'm taking the class pass/fail and I'm already doing pretty well. Here's to hoping!

Todd: <<why do people so often write "Manhatten"?>>: People are stupid. No one teaches spelling anymore. They teach dependence on spell-checker. <<he knew that Merlin was there>>: Remind me again how he knew that?

Greg: <<interrogate them for the incantation>>: But the incantation is a human spell, is it not? Wouldn't fae citing a human incantation cause some horrible catastrophe? (i.e. mixing magics is dangerous).

Todd again: <<Ditto with the other five attack sites>>: I understand the desire to hide the PURPOSE of attacking the other 5 locations, but there is no reason not tell us what they were if the main cast knows what they are...

Altron: The answers to ALL of your questions are: THE TGS STAFF IS SADISTIC AND LIKES KEEPING US IN SUSPENSE.

FS: <<YET. :)>>: Indeed. <<if a robot was made>>: A better question might be: if it is completely indistinguishable from a human, does it matter? <<What you be saying about my head?>>: Nothing. Its your brains I"m insulting. <<Rule of writing #104>>: Where can I see the rest of the rules? <<Divide by zero?>>: Something like that. <<we shall see who is the L33T3$T!>>: One, you're a little late for the party. Our rides are all ready already. Second, this is a car contest, not a computer contest. There is no L33T3$T. <<prefer to strike from far away and watch the smoke>>: Unlike you and I, fictional villains are stupid. That's why the good guys win. In the real world, evil always wins because good is dumb. 8-)

quote that describes my life: "Ya know what I hate...?"
at work: "I cannot express, in words, how incredibly bizarre that problem is." I said this one yesterday, when someone called to tell me that all the sites we were hosting AND our own site were all forwarding to prettywomanescorts.com. I have no idea how this happened, and all the sites worked fine from my end.

Beth: <<the body of a porn star at the age of 12!>>: no comment. Good luck with prom.

Coyote: <<our drag race might have to hold off>>: Don't delay the inevitable, wussy. 8-) <<get him laughing, then ambush 'im>>: Or just whisper something obscene in his ear and watch him melt.

Anita Blake: <<new stories>>: Never. Sorry to disappoint.

Gside: <<you still took an action that started a chain of events>>: Hey, I sent an email too! Credit where its due. <>: Are you going to gathering? I'm gonna wear a halter top just for you! <<the Answer and the Question>>: Leave Adams out of this. The fundamental "handedness" (there's a more technical word, but I forget what it is) comes from chemistry. <<Cast the spell first, then make her ineligible>>: If you need a lot of blood, that will be gross. <<did you mean other than yourself?>>: Yes, I did. But your interpretation is correct also. <<Snadra>>: No nipple ring.

Daniel Johnson: <<spending the year dead for tax purposes>>: LOL. An excellent idea, since I plan to spend my entire year's earnings on my TiBook.

They've really got my balls in a juice maker.
-Mr. Tweek, South Park

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, May 12, 2001 03:01:03 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Well, I don't normally drink, but I'll gladly drink a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster in memory of Douglas Adams, one of the most entertaining authors of our time. I guess it would be too much to hope that he's just spending the year dead for tax purposes. :sigh: I'm gonna miss him.
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, May 12, 2001 11:50:10 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

[The Big Guy steps into the room, bringing a towel and book entitled "Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy... he starts to speak, but since he's speaking in an alien tongue no one in the CR can understand him. Realizing this, he starts passing some babelfish around to everyone, waiting until they've inserted the fish into their ears before speaking again...]

Can you understand me now? Good...because I have some sad news to relay.

Douglas Adams, author of the Hitchhiker's Guide and other books such as "Life, The Universe & Everything" and "So Long, & Thanks For All The Fish." has passed on, ceased to be, and is no longer among us. He died of a heart attack in Santa Barbara, Ca.

[Takes a moment to raise a glass of the good stuff in a toast...]

So Long, Douglas... and thanks for all the wonderful stories !

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Saturday, May 12, 2001 10:38:37 AM
IP: 2416419hfc196.tampabay.rr.com

Lets try this again. Hello everybody.

Buffy question> Someone was asking about Sgt. Rock? This is Xander's one-time alter-ego. A few seasons back, one of Giles old pals was peddling enchanted costumes for Halloween. The costumes made the wearing into the persona they were going as. Xander as hardcore military guy, Willow as a ghost and Buffy as Victorian age damsel. The show brings it up every now and again when they want to show Xander being useful. Personally, I think it's grown a little thin. I was hoping after episodes like 'Replacements' with the double Xanders, we'd see more of him acting on his own, contributing to the Scoobies. I mean Willow has never had to call on her knowledge of being a ghost. Of course she tap-dancing close to Mary Sue territory. (Powerful witch, computer hacker, expert in all college classes, hey save something for the rest of the Scoobies to do) I like Willow as much as I like all the Scoobies, I just wish they gave Xander a little more to do that be a tackling dummy when they get into a fight. But anyway, that's where Sgt. Rock comes from.

Knights in Chainmail> One of my top ten Buffy quotes is from Mr. Trick. "Its called an Uzi, chump."

But there is a question to chew on, actually two. 1) Glory is the god, but Ben is mortal right? So how could he be older than the spoken word? Remember at the beginning of the season they were having trouble nailing down who Glory was? If Ben's mortal, should he really be twenty-something.

2) How exactly is Glory going to use the Key? She can't really kill Dawn. If that were the case, the knights and Ben would be doing her a favor. And why couldn't she use it then and there. Probably heading to Sunnydale with it's local hellmouth. (No city should be without one)

Well, that's all speculate away.
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Saturday, May 12, 2001 09:26:04 AM
IP: cbl064.pool008.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

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Anonymous
Saturday, May 12, 2001 09:09:12 AM
IP: cbl064.pool008.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

Hi guys, just a couple replies...

Gside:> <> You imagine well...quite a luck for me, since water is esier to recover. Actually, I had taken a supply of water with me, but it was exausted in a couple of hours...

Kyryn:> <<Are you going to vote in your elections this Sunday?>> Of course I'm going to. Since I had the right to vote, I've always used it. And, I think these elections are going to be very important, more than usual, for my country's future. Like one of our candidates (not the one I will vote for) said, it is time for a choice of fields. I did my choice, tomorrow I'll know if I am right or wrong...

Coyote:> <<... I can imagine that was much similar to what most NASCAR fans felt after Dale Earnhardt's death earlier this year...>> I suppose so...although, according to what I've heard, Earnhardt in the States was far more popular than Alboreto was here. Anyway, his death had a great echo, and a lot of people was present at his funeral.
<<... I haven't, but my mother has! And she went through NBC school in the middle of summer in Memphis.>> Really? Wow...I've read that Memphis is quite hot in summer, so for sure it WAS quite a draining experience.

See later!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Saturday, May 12, 2001 06:39:08 AM
IP: h213-100-234.mi.albacom.net

Kyryn> <<There are at least two Aarons in the fandom>>: Ah. That is then my bad.
<>: True enough. But you still took an action that started a chain of events that led to the CR being fixed.

Aaron> <<And now even more confusion about my identity!>>: Glad I could help.
<<My last name is Wheeler>>: I'm pretty sure I knew that, but, using the Interactive Activation and Competition model (a.k.a. Jets and Sharks or IAC), the Aaron Ziegler unit fired off both the Gargs fandom unit and the Aaron unit, both of whose connections have stronger weights to you than any other Aarons. It is extrememly scary the more often I use course material in conversations.
<<Maybe, maybe, and no>>: I'd say it's more "Heck yes, according to probability no, and absolutely not."
<<does anybody expect a big explosion of stories to be posted if and when the archive comes back up>>: Makes sense.
<<why should I finish anything when I have nowhere to post it?>>: There are other places to post, one being fanfiction.net, but none as dedicated or central.

Lynati> Rest well.

Imzadi> <<You got a problem with my navel?>>: Of course. As a male navel, it is one I do not wish to see.
<>: Perhaps, but I am leaving my options open.
<<fundamentally left-handed, to be more specific>>: That has yet to be determined. I do not think you kan find a distinct preference from the Answer and the Question.
<<its more fun to make the female virgin...ineligible...for the spells>>: Cast the spell first, then make her ineligible. That, or find some spells that require some very special blood.
<<the face was rather fuzzy>>: Even with a focused camera, it is.
<>: All the time, I'm sure, wait, did you mean other than yourself? But anyway... I assume you'd at least wash it off first.
<<???>>: A thorough explanation would take too long, but remember this: Mousse is the man. That, and the engineer.
<>: You're really a zebra striped, demonically enchanted woman named Snadra? With a nipple ring?

Fire Storm> <<Long story>>: Ah. Real life, not related to Road Waffles.
<<$25 in syrup makes the better part of 10K glasses>>: I've heard that the cost of making the ice is more than the cost of the syrup used.
<<it is the only reason I actually use IE>>: I know I can access it in Netscape. Or is this some %20 space thing?
<<That explains monogamous hetero relationships, but not lesbian ones>>: Old habits die hard?
<<a bunch of Ranma fandom stuff... ADULT stuff... pics, stories...>>: Mousse get lucky much?
<<So I like Nabiki!>>: Seen movie 2? Other than Mousse doing good, she does get some good scenes (and the dress).

Anita> <<Does anyone know?>>: I don't think so. It'll be a little bit, but they are working on it.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, May 12, 2001 01:31:04 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

I keep wondering when the new stories are going to come on. Does anyone know?
Anita Blake - [sylvrwolf30@hotmail.com]
Friday, May 11, 2001 11:54:35 PM
IP: pool-e098.accessunited.com

**trudges in**

Ah good, the room's working again. Joy. :)

Just to let y'all know ... Ravyn won't be posting as often as usual over the summer due to limited computer access at home. Therefore, best she'll be able to manage is gonna be e-mail and occasional posts in here. Anyone who'd like to keep in contact, she's given me permission to give out her e-mail addy, which I'll do in private by request (i.e. e-mail me if you want it). And of course, all the folks going to LA for the Gathering are gonna have the chance to meet her ... she's looking forward to the trip.

Josh: Uhmm ... our drag race might have to hold off. I drove the Caddy to work today and had some trouble with the coolant temp sending unit and a cylinder misfiring. **sigh** Back to the drawing board ...

Before I forget, my own best wishes to Beedoo!.

FS: Here's the bummer ... by all appearances it looks like I'm scheduled to work all that weekend. But on the bright side, it gives me some extra hours to earn more money for the trip.

Beth H: Way to go with yer prom plans. :)
Incidentally ... advice on loosening up a tightly-wound boyfriend: get him laughing, then ambush 'im. :)

Aaron: At least when I drive with one knee I'm *not* doing 60. More like 35 around this dinky little town of mine.

Shadowrider: I shoulda given my condolences as well ... I can imagine that was much similar to what most NASCAR fans felt after Dale Earnhardt's death earlier this year.
As far as NBC maneuvers go, well ... I haven't, but my mother has! And she went through NBC school in the middle of summer in Memphis.

Quote that reflects daily life:
At work: "What part of 'how may I direct your call' do people NOT understand?!"
Hard to think of others ... I'll come back to that. :)

42 days to Los Angeles ... 38 days 'til I see Ravyn!! :)

**zips out**
Coyote the Bando - [tazcaddy@vivavelocity.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, May 11, 2001 11:01:02 PM
IP: 64.243.214.83

*posts sign*

Here's a little request just for fun: Post a quote of something you've said that reflects you daily life, childhood, relationships, etc.

Mine which I wrote down on to a note pad and showed to my friends (when talking about the possibility that natural beauty can look fake):

"But I didn't _want_ to have the body of a porn star at the age of 12!!!"

Prom's a week away!!! ^_^
Beth H.
Friday, May 11, 2001 10:54:04 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Aaron: <Yep, that's a good one>
I liked it alot. Very well done. Especially 'The Matrix' parody at the end.
<Actually, the title for the summary was supposed to be "New Disney Movie in 2004!">
Ok. Because other than the D:TP stuff, I didn't recconize any of it.
<Oh, please click my link and vote against the green apple starbursts, because well, they suck>
I just throw away the lemon.

Imzadi: <I'm not THAT desperate>
YET. :)
<There won't be ANY at my house>
We shall see about that!
<One problem: I don't like men. I find them physically repulsive>
Details, details...
Look, do you want the chicks or not?
<Like cheating in an ethics class>
Absolutely. At least you don't deny that you are without ethics or morals.
<Human is a physical state...I think. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...>
So, if a robot was made to look like a human, talked like a human, and walked like a human, it would be a human?
<you're no fun>
Why not?
<Stercorem pro cerebro habes!>
YO YO YO YO YO!
What you be saying about my head?
<Second, why on earth did Madoc bother to head the assault at Manhattan?>
Rule of writing #104: The head bad guy must always lead the battle against the main good guys.
<Then hell would freeze over as a negative result>
Divide by zero?

Imzadi//Coyote: <Car racing>
Just let me trick out MY ride and we shall see who is the L33T3$T!

GXB: Magneto became the LEGAL leader of Genosha?!?!?
When was this?

Todd: <But I suppose that it's really a reflection of a deep-down fear of technology>
Probally. And that probally is the basis for the whole anti-AI feeling out there.
I think that AI's can be developed to have all the feelings and emotions that a real human has. There will be some with flaws and bad AI's, but probally no more than there are flawed people and bad people.

Gside: <Why talk about something so mundane?>
I really don't know... I guess I thought that you were talking about sea-ships.
<All right, we can get druge to get us to euphoria, but do we have a sure fire way into denail?>
If I say no, am I denying it?
<Thanks, but I think I'll pass. Too many diseases to risk, and that whole Catholic thing is still haunting me.>
I tell ya... the problem with religion is that it is filled with religious people!
<And why is that?>
Bad business, death threats, police action...
Long story.
<The didning halls have it on tap, but at home, sadly I'm limited to ultra low test. A.k.a. diet caffiene free.>
Mmmmm... tap... That is the one thing I have GOT to do once I get some money! Spend $500 on a tap and make Coke straight from syrup! $25 in syrup makes the better part of 10K glasses.
<Talk to Rutgers engineering. It's not my fault>
Thats what YOU say!

You know... your main directory is my IE homepage... of course, it is the only reason I actually use IE.
<Se Tec Astronomy>
You sure? (rearranges letters) DAMN! You ARE right! I thought I went through that a few times...
<Ergo, monogamy is a female concept>
That explains monogamous hetero relationships, but not lesbian ones... oh well... I guess some things are ment to be enjoied and not questioned.
<It's more fun to get it from a female virgin>
Depends on how much blood you want. A few drops to a pint, sure, go female.
If ya want it all, it really dosn't matter who you pick.
<Then it's a cursed master of hidden weapons.>
::laughs::
Speaking of which... someone e-mailed me a link to a bunch of Ranma fandom stuff... ADULT stuff... pics, stories...
I am trying REALLY hard not to start reading Ranma stories... I just visit the sites for the pictures! :)
(So I like Nabiki!)

DPH: <If you are a bomb maker, I expect your parents to know>
The only reason they know is because my dad bought me my first explosives book.
Seriously.
<I ask the question: how can I move out without my own vehicle? How can I move out if I have no place to go to right away? Let my comments and those of others be lessons for potential parents on what NOT to do.>
Well, you can always rent a moving vehicle and use the bus/subway if they are available. As for a place, yeah, you need one of those.
Thats what sucks about living on your own. It costs too damn much! Figure $1000 a month just to keep yourself alive! (Place to live, food, utilities, car)

Kyryn: <Chris Rogers>
Woah! You got through to him? Cool!
I see he also posted a message about the fic archive too. Good job!

SJ: Where do you get all this Buffy info from anyway?

Madoc attacking: What *I* can't understand is why Madoc and company didn't rely more on technology. I mean, with all his resources he couldn't at least make an attempt to make a magic amplifier?
I dunno... I guess I am from the group of people who prefer to strike from far away and watch the smoke from a safe distance.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.netq]
Friday, May 11, 2001 10:09:00 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Does anyone know why only nine of twelve clans that Madoc attacked showed up in the Council and why weren't they even mentioned?
Altron
Friday, May 11, 2001 10:07:40 PM
IP: 153-pool1.ras12.ilchi.tii-dial.net

Sorry for the double post, but one other thing that I thought I'd mention here. (I was going to mention it yesterday, but thanks to the site problems, wasn't able to post it).

I hope that Alex Summers is going to be Scott's only relative (well, the only one to show up on-stage or feature much) in the cartoon. I've read up a bit about the X-Men in the comics since the cartoon came out, and one thing that I've learned is that Cyclops has a ridiculously overcomplicated family tree - as in, the kind that gives seasoned genealogists nightmares. Let's hope that they don't include it in the series (especially not the notion of all those time-travelling descendants from alternate futures).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, May 11, 2001 09:20:33 PM
IP: sdn-ar-003mosloup149.dialsprint.net

Ah, yes. Thanks, Bishansky, I'd forgotten that.

As for the Crete question - maybe that will be revealed in a future TGS story. Ditto with the other five attack sites.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, May 11, 2001 08:08:58 PM
IP: 168.191.170.25

TODD> Don't forget, Madoc also wanted to capture Angela, Goliath or Elisa to interrogate them for the incantation to reach Avalon.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Friday, May 11, 2001 08:02:37 PM
IP: dialin-488-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

hop! another random chosen picture in the list :)

SJ> *containts spoilers on the X-Men comic books* I agree with you on the last part of the Revolution arc, they were so strong it got boring at long, but after the Eve of Destruction 4-parter, it was Magneto who had the upper hand... or so he (and most of the readers, I believe)though. And that gave her some shocks, like Alison "Dazzler" Blair's death. Another think that I rather liked was the changes in Cyke's attitude. Gosh, I've never seen him so callous and cynical. It almost made me, an absolute Scott-Summers-Hater, like him. Gawd, where does the world go!?! The end was pretty shocking, too, as Magneto standed defeated, and the good guys were ponder what to do with Lhencher, Logan stabs him with his claws. It left me with my jaw scrapping the floor

Last Week was the release date of Uncanny X-men, written by Joe Casey (who worked on Cable, and the Majestic special for Wildstorm) and drawn by one of my VERY favorite comics artist, Ian Churchill (Cable, Heroes Reborn, Coven). Gosh, it kicked ass! And that "vilain", Warp Savant. He got one heck of an interesting power. I'll have to think about it when I'll be GM on KULT, sometimes. X-Treme X-men was cool. Beautiful art, but I though that it was a bit confusing. At least we had a good run-down of Rogue's and Destiny's history. I'm waiting for Brotherhood and New X-men to see what's gonna happen there.

Oh, on your comment about Buffy, you were refering to the Black Hand. The Black Hand as in the Kindred's-Sabbat's-group-who-got-a-black-crecent-moon-tatooed-on-the-palm-of-their-hand Black Hand? if so, cool! Those guys are fun to play with, in RPG. *snickers, remembering a RPG game from a year and half ago*

that's all for now! Reviews on tomorrow's X-Men Evolution season finale episode VERY welcome!

Denis - [malkavien@lft.be]
Friday, May 11, 2001 07:35:15 PM
IP: adsl-35387.turboline.skynet.be

Places that Madoc hit- Why did he hit Rome and Crete? I can understand Rome since the church has a great collection of books on magic, but why Crete and what were the remaining 5 locations?
Altron
Friday, May 11, 2001 07:19:57 PM
IP: 205.213.142.157

I'd always assumed that the Matrix of "Walkabout" had a definite article preceding it. But then, it's been a while since I last saw that episode, and my memory on it could be a little fuzzy.

And you're right about AIs being portrayed badly in the media (from what I understand - I don't watch that much sci-fi); I do sometimes wonder about whether such things, in real life, would really be behaving all that badly. After all, to be really villainous, you need such attributes as greed, arrogance, hatred, vengefulness, etc., which I can't imagine a machine acquiring. But I suppose that it's really a reflection of a deep-down fear of technology.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, May 11, 2001 07:16:53 PM
IP: sdn-ar-002mosloup190.dialsprint.net

Todd: <the Matrix>
Isn't he just called "Matrix"? No "the"?
Dingo and Matrix?
Hey, I can get nit-picky too, can't I? Especially with AI's.
Lousy bio-centric society...

Hmm... come to think of it, the general consensus of Mutants in X-Men is about the same as AI's in our world. I mean, tell me the last GOOD portrayal of AI's in movies and TV! I have seen MAYBE 10 GOOD portrayals of AI's and a few hundred of BAD AI's.

More later when I can get to my computer. (Dern 5-phase CHKDSK)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Friday, May 11, 2001 07:09:48 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Well, it's nice to have this place up and running again. Thanks, Kyryn, for helping to restore the comment rooms - not to mention fixing the timer for it. Let's hope that no further disasters hit this place, at least for a long time.

One little spelling question: why do people so often write "Manhatten"? The proper spelling should be "Manhattan". All three vowels are a's. Sorry about this, but I've seen this misspelling far too often (and I'm something of an annoying purist at heart :).

Feel free to lynch me for being a spelling nitpicker, if you wish :)

SEVARIUS JR. - Yes, the Knights of Byzantium are somewhat out of fashion by several centuries, but I didn't really mind that. The medieval enthusiast in me was too delighted by the chainmail to care that it made them into walking anachronisms.

And you could be right about the public fearing the X-Men because of the implications of their being mutants (i.e., meaning that humanity's heading for obsoleteness). Though if that's the case, the humans are still being a bit irrational in just going after the mutants with Sentinels rather than doing research on exactly what's causing the existence of mutants to begin with and seeing if there's a way of halting the process that's leading to mutant births (assuming that it's not too late, which it may very well be).

DENIS - I doubt that they'll be bringing in "Marvel crossover" figures into "X-Men: Evolution", on account of how they're portraying the setting. The series is set in a world where the public don't know that mutants exist yet, and where everything seems normal on the surface level (kind of like the Gargoyles Universe prior to Jon Carter's exposee of the gargs in "Hunter's Moon Part Three"). So I doubt that there are super-heroes out there in public, battling super-villains over downtown Manhattan with the whole thing being captured by news cameras and making the front page of the New York Times the following morning. (I was wondering how they'd be able to fit in Magneto's anti-human attitudes if the public awareness, and with it, the attending persecutions a la Friends of Humanity, Sentinels, etc., hasn't cropped up yet, but they managed to get it in with a tone of "They'll find out sooner or later". Come to think of it, Demona carried out nearly all her anti-humanity schemes - such as the "City of Stone" rampage - before the humans found out about the gargoyles).

MADOC'S STRATEGY - Well, a lot of the choice for targets came with our wanting to do a little reference back to the Avalon World Tour and its various stops. But there was also the matter of Madoc wanting to eliminate the possibility of any "paranormal" opposition, whether from gargoyles, mythical heroes (such as King Arthur, Cuchulain, and the Golem), or anyone and anything else that had some sort of superhuman ability (even down to the more sci-fi-sourced ones like Dingo and the Matrix in Australia). That would dispose of the defenses most adequately suited for dealing with the Unseelie Court, after which there'd just be the conventional armed forces that wouldn't be prepared for dealing with magical beings.

As for why Madoc chose to personally attack the Eyrie Building - it was one of the leading centers of potential resistance (given the fact that it was where the one publicly-known gargoyle clan lived), he believed that Goliath and Elisa were going to be his downfall and wanted to give that his direct attention, and finally, he knew that Merlin was there, and wanted to deal with him in person as well.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, May 11, 2001 07:04:23 PM
IP: sdn-ar-002mosloup190.dialsprint.net

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Patrick Toman, Vice Convention Chair - [gathering2001@art-chicks.com]
Friday, May 11, 2001 06:15:05 PM
IP: 64.109.195.110

Buwahaha! CR is back up! Joy!

Okay, I'm registered for the gathering. And I bought one of those nifty calendars. Had to stay away from the t-shirt, though, because quite frankly I don't think there's a single place in the world where it'd be acceptable or cool to wear that. I know this because I already own many cool shirts. 8-)

Comic book crossovers: I confess to know little if anything about comic books. My comments were derived from my existing knowledge of cartoons and my existing knowledge of the profit models of entertainment companies. My bad...I'll shut up now (well, about this subject, anyway)

Kyryn: I was gonna thank you, but since all you did was send an email... 8-). Thanks for sending an email. I know it was exhausting.

Gside: <<Why talk about something so mundane?>>: You got a problem with my navel? <<that whole Catholic thing is still haunting me>>: I think if you refer to it as "that whole catholic thing" then it loses any power over you. <<the universe is fundamentally assymetric>>: fundamentally left-handed, to be more specific. <<It's more fun to get it from a female virgin>>: No, its more fun to make the female virgin...ineligible...for the spells. <<Was there ever any evidence to the contrary?>>: I recall seeing a picture of a human, but now that I think about it the face was rather fuzzy. <<would you wnat to handle a non-virgin slide rule?>>: I handle non-virgin other things, so why not? <<Then it's a cursed master of hidden weapons>>: ???

Aaron: <<Now if we could just get the fic archive working>>: Then hell would freeze over as a negative result. <<Even if half of you do think I'm really Robby>>: Well, we love both of you. <<big explosion of stories>>: I wouldn't be on it. All the major, frequent posters of the fic archive are posting on fanfiction.net. The minor ones might disappear, which is fine because most of their fics sucked, anyway. I expect the major posters (Donald Flemming, The Barracuda, etc) to return slowly. I doubt they are checking daily to see if anything pops up. <<against the green apple starbursts, because well, they suck>>: I did my civic duty and voted against them. Apple starbursts would suck.

Locations madoc hit: Looks like Madoc hit almost every location that Goliath and Elisa hit on their world tour. What I don't understand is why, in some of those cases. Did he just attack the stomping grounds of every seelie? What the hell for? What a waste of resources. Second, why on earth did Madoc bother to head the assault at Manhattan? Was it solely because the Goliath/Elisa relationship was happening there?

SJ: good points on X-men. <<So perfect that no one can ever relate to these characters>>: I can, because I, too, am perfect. <<How can anyone related to those characters?>>: I have washboard abs, only bang girls that look like they walked out of penthouse (which would explain why I don't get much play), drive around in a Jeep Grand Cherokee that my rich daddy bought me, and I can ignite things on fire with my mind. So I think I've got a pretty good idea what the X-men are going through. <<measurements that could never exist on any real human woman>>: Well, she *IS* a mutant...maybe that's the next evolution of women (please god, let it be so!).

Christine: <<Av mists>>: the icon set is in production...convince your flunkies to do some artwork! 8-)

They've really got my balls in a salad shooter.
-Mr. Tweek, South Park

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, May 11, 2001 05:42:27 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Aha, things seem to be working again; I tried to post the other day and couldn't and have now forgotten all that I was going to say :P Guess it couldn't have been that riveting and earth-shattering, hmm?

Avalon Mists > just a reminder, that deadline is a creeping on up! Still looking for fics, pics, and basically everything! ; )

Survivor / Weakest Link > did anyone else watch this bit of silliness? Little alliance backlash going on, eh what? And what in the blue hell was up with Sue's hair?

Mummy Returns > I liked the first one better, but this still was an okay way to spend the afternoon. Persuaded Becca to go (though had to bribe her with a new Lego set, bringing our sum total of Legos to somewhere in the five-million-piece range). Felt sorry for Imhotep, poor guy. But they HAD to drag in the prophecy/destiny thing, didn't they? Ugh. Oh, well, the scenes set in ancient times and the army of Anubis guys made up for most of it.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, May 11, 2001 05:23:00 PM
IP: 13-031.075.popsite.net

Well, it had been quite some time since the CR had a near death experience. Glad to see it's back.

Comics: First off, Josh-are you serious? You aren't much of a comic book fan, are you? Cause the Marvel universe is absolutely tied together by a thousand million different threads of continuity. That's part of the problem with comics in general. But Marvel in particular: as hard as the writers try and keep things self-contained in their titles, there's still overlaps. What happens in Captain America has repercussions in Spider-Man, etc. It's incredibly intimidating to try and understand. That's why Marvel has decided to sort of "reset" some of their most popular franchises with their "Ultimate Marvel" line.

X-Men: It's all about perception. How the public perceives the heroes makes a big difference. Not everyone thinks that the heroes are all good, in fact even the greatest heroes can be down right frightening to the common man (read the truly excellent "Marvels". The meek have not inherited the earth.).
With the X-Men, I would think that people always single them out as targets of hate for 2 very simple reasons: 1. Even the good, heroic mutants keep blabbing about how they are the next step in evolution, and any body with a 3rd grade science background in the theory of evolution knows that that means us normal humans are screwed. And 2. Every other week you have Magneto or some other demagogue popping up and informing humanity that they are an inferior species which will be (at worst) exterminated or (at best) made into a slave class. Gee, I wonder why the mutants of the Marvel world can't figure why everyone hates them.

Has anyone been reading the X-Men comics lately? They've just changed creative teams�.again. For like, the upteenth time in a couple years. I've got a major problem with the X-Men as of late, and I'm principally blaming Chris Claremont for this---the X-Men are WAY too powerful. They are being presented as absolutely unbeatable, and if some bad guy does defeat them, he/she is either of godlike stature or they won on a fluke. It's killing it for me. This is the same problem I have with Superman. Superman is a god, bottom line. Virtually nothing harms him. So the bad guys target the supporting cast instead, and I get ever so tired of seeing some villain try and off Lois Lane. But that's where the X-Men are headed. It's unreal. They're portrayed as having god-like powers, tech that makes Star Wars look archaic, and apparently each and every one of them has an IQ of around 200 points. They're too freakin' perfect. So perfect that no one can ever relate to these characters. "Boo hoo, humanity hates me because I'm a mutant." I don't know about that, but I hate you because your mutant girlfriend looks like she walked out of the pages of Penthouse, you fly around in a Learjet that your bald sugerdaddy bought you, you can [insert cool superpower here] which you know would be fun to do at parties, and you've got washboard abs that would make the Rock jealous. You are the perfect individual, mutant or not. How can anyone related to those characters? I mean, it's debatable that one can relate to any comic book character, but the goal is to create characters that are somewhat believable, at least in their personal lives. You don't get that with the X-Men. "Oh, I'm not fighting Apocalypse today, I think I'll lounge in the X-Mansion's private Jacuzzi, take a trip in the Blackbird, and then spend the evening banging my beautiful mutant girlfriend who has measurements that could never exist on any real human woman." Please.
Hopefully, the new creative teams will be able to correct this problem somewhat, cause I'm burning out on the X real fast.

***BUFFY / ANGEL REVIEWS***
BUFFY: Pretty good episode. As usual, good drama, good suspense, lots of good action.
The opening sequence was a bit odd, for me at least, probably because I thought it was incredibly dopey to have Glory pull out her Steve Austin imitation (and that's Steve "The 6 Million Dollar Man" Austin, not "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. I, of course, would have had no problem is Glory had stuck out her middle fingers and called for Buffy to give her a Hell Yeah.). I mean, all we needed was the funky 70s synthesizer music while she was running. It was interesting to see Buffy run away instead of fight. Although her choice of transportation was horrible; I've been behind some horrible RVs in my time as a driver, but I don't think I've ever seen one that was slower than a horse. After watching the RV fight, however, I must say that the Knights of Byzantium (or whatever they call themselves, they're ripoffs of Monty Python) deserve to get their asses beat. They're some secret society that has been searching for the Key for years, right? Centuries. And the dumbasses still wear chainmail and fight with swords. It's the 21st century, folks. I don't care if you're the Knights Templar, the Black Hand, the Freemasons, etc.---if you ain't packing a firearm (at least) and wearing something functional (like some nice Kevlar body armor), you deserve to be slaughtered by gods and slayers. The Crusades are over. Although you do get points for the flaming arrows (it was a nice touch), and having a few mages hanging around. I thought it was an inventive way for them to lose Dawn to Glory.
NOTES:
*I liked the way they injured Giles-it makes the battle seem important for someone so important to be injured so severely.
*About Willow�.am I the only one who thinks that she's getting a little too powerful?
*What was up with all of the Sgt. Rock references from Xander?
*Did anyone else notice how Buffy casually killed several of the Knights, when previously such an action would have probably been unthinkable?
*On the matter of Ben: If you listened to the Head Numbskull Knight Guy, Ben was (if I'm reading this right), "created" as a prison for Glory, much like Dawn was "created" as the Key in human form. As a result, it is entirely conceivable that he is a bit�maladjusted to the regular world. He was called a "newborn", specifically. His reasoning for becoming a doctor seems to imply that he did not know much of the human race, him being a recent addition to it, so it's acceptable that he's na�ve on lots of things.
*You just know that Ben WILL decide to kill Dawn, don't you? And who can blame him? Kill Dawn and live (and not have that pesky problem of reality ending) or let Glory win? Easy choice to make, IMO.
*Why didn't Glory just kill everyone when she had the chance? She took the time to kill the knights, who were no threat whatsoever, but she didn't kill Buffy and the others, the only ones who have been able to defeat her before?

RELATED BUFFY NEWS: Some bits and pieces.
*Spike is rumored to become a full-time member of the cast of Angel next season.
*Giles is rumored to be getting his own series, or at least a mini. The show, however, will be made for U.K. audiences, with a tentative title of "Ripper". The show will, I believe, be much like Buffy, only one can suppose without the teenagers (which puts the program in danger of becoming like *shudder* "Poltergeist: The Legacy"). No guarantee that the show will be made, but I think the word is that it's a strong possibility. If it does get produced, I have no clue if it will be marketed for U.S. audiences.
**SUPER SPOILERS FOR BUFFY FINALE**
There are two big surprises that are allegedly in store for the finale.
1. Buffy eventually kicks Glory's ass (with the Troll Hammer from "Triangles"), but stops short of killing her when she reverts to Ben. In an act of mercy, she takes Dawn and decides to let Ben live. Giles, in a supremely cold and borderline sociopathic move which if true I totally love, decides to screw mercy, and he kills Ben himself.
2. Oh yeah, Buffy dies. I'm not joking. Apparently, while Glory is kaput, she did manage to open a few portals, and this causes Buffy to die. How they'll resolve that one, if true, I'll have no idea (just as long as it's not Xena-ish).

***ANGEL REVIEW***
This show actually didn't do much for me. They played up much of the humor on the show, and it was fine, but the story was just sort of filler for me. Especially since they should be building things up for the big season finale coming up in the next few weeks, and instead they're spending time on this. Given the direction of the show thus far this season, I would assume that the finale would have something to do with Drusilla or Darla (or has that storyline just been dropped), not Pylia. Anyway, the show did have some truly fun moments, most of them centered around Cordy in the demon dimension.
Personally, though, I think that whoever wrote this episode must have been watching an awful lot of Army of Darkness. I was half-expecting Angel to start threatening the demons with his boomstick and encouraging them to shop smart�.shop S-Mart.
NOTES:
*Any other guys out there appreciate just how truly tight and firm Charisma Carpenter's ass really is? (You could bounce pudding offa it!)
*How many hardcore JMS fans out there recognized "Crusade" actor Daniel Dae Kim as one of the new Wolfram and Hart Lawyers sent to harass Angel?
*Who is Lorne the Host's hot psychic friend? And will we see more of her (please?)?
*Are portals to Pylia a regular occurrence, considering the number of humans present in the dimension?
*Who enjoys the Host as much as I do? (It's the leisure suits, I think.)
*Wasn't the ending sort of predictable?
***END REVIEW***

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Friday, May 11, 2001 05:19:30 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

*limps in*

I did it. I said I would, and I did.
says I; "I will stay awake until I finish these two peices, or I will pass out trying." A little after 9:30 this morning, during hour 45 of sleep deprivation, I zonked out while working on the second project. I woke up an hour and a half later (not including the semi-wakeful stage someone forced me into when asking to borrow a paintbrush) due to loud later-moving noise, drooling on my piece, one leg asleep and my shoulder and neck in achey pain. I stumbled back to the dorm. I actually managed another two hours before getting pulled back down to Foundations to finish setting/cleaning up for the show. I awakened with a mass painful calf-thing, like a charlie-horse raised a couple powers, and my leg does not want to bend or have weight put on it. the ace bandage and the stretching helped, but it still hurts...oh, and on of my friend-types *Glomm*'ed me, and forced my weight down on it worse, but it is better from *that* now, too. I have to stay awake until i can get food, which won't be for another 35 minutes.
my hands are coated with interesting layers of gloss medium, stick-flat glue, acrylic paint, ceramic stucco, and several others mediums combined in a way that ten minutes scrubbing my hands and arms with steel wool didn't get them all clean.
the piece i needed done for the show got done; everything is hung and that is good. i need a shower now.

*after walking into the wall once, Lynati manages to find the curtain gate and stumbles out through it.*
Lynati Kshudra
South of Sanity, and still sinking
Friday, May 11, 2001 05:14:03 PM
IP: kcx-ks18a-14.rasserver.net

Does someone have a list of all twenty-two places that Madoc attacked? I only found 17.

1.Manhatten
2.Ishimura
2.Guatemala
4.London
5.New Olympus
6.Flagstaff
7.Prague
8.Egypt
9.Queen Florence Island
10.Nigeria
11.Rome
12.Crete
13.Antarctica
14.Persia
15.China
16.Australia
17.Caledonia
Altron
Friday, May 11, 2001 04:31:22 PM
IP: 139-pool8.ras12.ilchi.tii-dial.net

Thank you, Kyryn, for getting the room fixed. (Now if we could just get the fic archive working...)

And now even more confusion about my identity!

Gside> <> I'm afraid not. My last name is Wheeler. (At least for the moment) AZ is on the TGS staff, and wrote "I'm Sorry" a fanfic I *wish* I could take credit for. Besides, I've never seen an episode of Ranma, and all I know about Chrono Trigger is that it's an RPG. << Am I halucinating, are thre multiple Aaron Zieglers, or is that yours? >> Maybe, maybe, and no.

Kyryn> <<Our Aaron>> Awwwww. I feel so loved. Even if half of you do think I'm really Robby.

Hmmm, does anybody expect a big explosion of stories to be posted if and when the archive comes back up, or will people have gotten discouraged. (i.e., why should I finish anything when I have nowhere to post it?)

Oh, please click my link and vote against the green apple starbursts, because well, they suck.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, May 11, 2001 04:27:31 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

****Kyryn ducks back in.****

Shadowrider> Welcome back! Are you going to vote in your elections this Sunday?

G'side> There are at least two Aarons in the fandom. Aaron Ziegler is a TGS Staff member, but does not usually post in this room. Our Aaron in this room is a different Aaron, but I don't remember his last name. <fixing the CR> I just sent an email. Chris Rogers, the head of Wyvernweb, did the rest.

Later!

****Kyryn ducks out of the room.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, May 11, 2001 03:27:52 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Hmm. Glad someone gave DC his reward.

**LIVING AT HOME**
1st, I am saving money up to buy a car. Once a car is paid for, I will be saving money up towards the goal of moving out. Remember those of us who live with parents have to have our own transportation before we can move out and then we have to wait even longer to afford to live out on our own. In my case, Once I move out, there will be no way I can move back in, so I have to be completely ready.

I ask the question: how can I move out without my own vehicle? How can I move out if I have no place to go to right away? Let my comments and those of others be lessons for potential parents on what NOT to do.
**END LIVING AT HOME**

FS - Habereno's? got a few of those in the garden. There are certain basic rights: Ability to express thoughts without retribution, sleep. If you are a bomb maker, I expect your parents to know.

**RP RELATED**
I am planning on doing a Mother's Day tribute. enough said. Unfortunately, evil is planned for DPH; thankfully for the enemy, someone else will be ought there to protect our hero.
**END RP RELATED**

**BFTS RP continues**
*Speed Star HQ*
"Boss, I . . we are still not completely certain about DPH dying. His file says he always visits a certain gravesite every year and this gravesite just happens to have a security camera on it. . " says Paula.

Fred continues, "and you want to send a small army out there just to ensure DPH is dead. Well, the troops do need practice. Go ahead and send a few hundred people out there with attack helicopters."
*meanwhile*
Lunatic asks, "Why in heck are going to visit this graveyard?"
Lunacy replies, "If you had bothered to read the assignment, you would know that this is for protection. SOme mutant goes out there once a year and wants privacy while visiting. One year, he was interuppted and nearly killed quite a few people. We're going there to protect them from him."
**END BFTS RP for now**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Friday, May 11, 2001 03:04:42 PM
IP: max1-35.cwy.cei.net

Fire Storm> <<And here I was, think that we were talking about naval ships>>: Why talk about something so mundane?
<<Denial, euphoria, Mississippi>>: All right, we can get druge to get us to euphoria, but do we have a sure fire way into denail?
<<Just help me keep a running tally of sins, ok?>>: But of course.
<<j0?>>: No, just a standard yo.
<<We'll get you nice and hookered up!>>: Thanks, but I think I'll pass. Too many diseases to risk, and that whole Catholic thing is still haunting me.
<<That is one name that shall be forever banned in my world!>>: And why is that?
<<You do get a regular supply though, right?>>: The didning halls have it on tap, but at home, sadly I'm limited to ultra low test. A.k.a. diet caffiene free.
<<LAMER!>>: Talk to Rutgers engineering. It's not my fault.
<<POST IT>>: I put it in my eden directory before I left, but it's not an official mp3.
<<Ce Tech Astronomy>>: Se Tec Astronomy.
<<That is SUCH a double standard. But it is a socially accpetable one. Why?>>: I say it boils down to the reproductive assymetry (remember, the universe is fundamentally assymetric), and genetic surviaval tactics. On one side, it's better to spread your genes to as many mates as possible, but on the other you keep the strongest one you can find (ooh, explanation for Joketsuzoku laws) to keep pumping out strong progeny every ten months or so. Ergo, monogamy is a female concept.
<<we still need SOME blood for our spells!>>: It's more fun to get it from a female virgin.

Aaron> Yesterday I found a Ranma/Chrono Trigger crossover by an Aaron Ziegler. I seem to remember that your last name is Ziegler. Am I halucinating, are thre multiple Aaron Zieglers, or is that yours?

Imzadi> <<What kind of defective school has finals on other campuses?>>: The kind of school that has five campuses across two cities, plus Newark and Camden, with a ten route bus system. For more information, see http://www.rutgers.edu/BusMaps/index.html
<<BG? Diablo II?>>: Baldur's Gate, and yes Diablo II.
<<And in conclusion, Gside is a dog>>: Was there ever any evidence to the contrary?
<<you don't KNOW whats in my PSL folder>>: But I always have my suspicions.
<<Huh?>>: You know, when people get made into saints.
<<ChemE or MatSci works just fine>>: But ChemEs don't really have to bend stuff as much as MechEs.
<<At a geek orgy>>: Then my question should be, would you wnat to handle a non-virgin slide rule?
<<If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...>>: Then it's a cursed master of hidden weapons.

Welcome back Shadowrider.
<>: I imagine that was almost all water.

Kyryn> Thanks for getting the CR fixed.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, May 11, 2001 02:46:22 PM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

***Kyryn steps in carrying a mega-bazooka. She spots DC and fires. The resulting beam punches DC into the back wall and slowly vaporizes him.***

That's for hanging both this CR and the other one.

I was able to get in touch with the sitemaster, who reset the problem script.

Okay, folks, we now return you to your regularly scheduled comment room.

Later, All!

****Kyryn brings in a large fan to blow the resulting nasty smell of vaporized DC out of the CR, then takes off.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, May 11, 2001 01:59:20 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Hi to everyone, good to see you all! Here again, for a couple of days. My service goes on, last week we had some exercises of NBC protection. Problem is, here winter has finally decided to leave...and, immedediately, summer has begun! We switched in a couple days from 14� C to 25-26�C! So, I imagine none here (except those who are in the military themselves) have never tried to wear a full protective suite with a NBC mask, and to move quicky on the groung carrying a rifle, ammos,and some more equipment, with such a temperature...I assure it is not a fun. When we finished the exercise, I found out I had lost 3kgs in less than eight hours...and I let you imagine how stinky I was...

Kyryn & Ravyn:> I know I am late, but I thank you both for the condolences on the death of Michele Alboreto. He was indeed the first driver I ever supported and his death was quite a shock for me. Thank you again.

Kit & Doug:> Hi friends! How are you?

Hm, gotta go now. Later!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Friday, May 11, 2001 01:56:13 PM
IP: h213-100-187.mi.albacom.net

Heya, guys! it seems to work, this time!

Jannie> thanks for the previews, sweetie!

About X-men and the Marvel Universe> I disagree with Josh, here. The Marvel Universe is one big universe, and with several dimensions. For exemple, I'll mention the Onslaught tragedy. For those who don't know who and what Onslaught was, here's a little explanation. After a rought battle against Magneto, Xavier litteraly blew his mind away, and it set in motion a chain of event that changed the Marvel Universe. Several months later, during an altercation with Nate Grey, a mutant from a dimension that ceased to exist, Xavier's psyche was pulled out of the Astral plane. The traumatism of that experience, coupled with the drastic mesure taken by Xavier against Magneto generated a being known as Onslaught. With several heralds, Onslaught attacked mutants world wide, and launched an assault on Manhattan, opposed by Spiderman, Hulk, the Fantastic Four, the Avenger and of course, the X-Men. Onslaught was finally defeated, but only with the "sacrifice" of the Avenger, the FF and Hulk

Now, on the account of X-Men Evolution, I don't think that other Marvel characters will be included in the continuity, at least, not right away. According to Comics Continuum, They try to stick as close to the movie as they can

that's all for now, guys! a month and half till the Gathering! YEAAHHH!

Denis - [malkavien@lft.be]
Friday, May 11, 2001 01:52:22 PM
IP: adsl-35387.turboline.skynet.be

Test
Kyryn
Friday, May 11, 2001 01:50:45 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

The behind the scenes explanation being the prejudice being integral to X-Men, (which is why the characters never change or grow). On scene being that the Avengers and FF were all accredited celebrities and heroes before getting their powers... And in fact being on the Avengers generally covers up the whole mutant aspect, ala Beast... But since Spiderman wasn't a celebrity beforehand, he has the same problem...
Robby
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 09:55:30 AM
IP: ac8c7e09.ipt.aol.com

Josh> I was talking about the comics, which are all the same universe. For example, Onslaught was a story arc that touched every corner of the Marvel Universe. And when Magneto became the legitimate UN recognized leader of Genosha, it was mentioned on a news report of many different comics in Marvel.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 08:04:03 AM
IP: dialin-109-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Todd and Greg: You two are being silly. You are confusing the "xmen universe" with the "marvel universe". That's like asking why Elisa Maza doesn't run into Bonkers on the street. They're different cartoons. Disney is just the company that OWNS them. The "marvel universe" doesn't exist, despite the crossovers in the xmen cartoons. Its a bunch of different artists drawing and creating characters in different worlds. There are no rules that say the characters have to interact at all. The fact that they do is sheer coincidence, brought on by the desire to make money on cross-overs. Average joes in the xmen universe aren't the same as average joes in the Captain America universe unless Marvel officially says that they are.
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 08:01:31 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Todd> I agree with you about this week's "X-Men Evolution". It was well worth it, and well worth the season. I was on the fence with this show up until now, and their portrayal of Magneto was very well done. I'm looking forward to part 2, and will definetly watch the second season.

As for the hatred towards Mutants and not against other heroes? Well, keep in mind most of the others are members of the Avengers led by CAPTAIN AMERICA!!! The symbol of all that is good and true. And when Captain America throws his mighty shield, all who oppose it must flee. He symbolizes the red, white and blue of our country. All others bow before him, for he can go anywhere and do what ever he wants with the entire support of the United States behind him. Captain Britain is nothing compared to him. And all those other wussy contries had better not get Captain America mad!

Ok, I'm done being a jackass for now. But seriously, I'm not sure why none of the other heroes in the Marvel universe get all this crap that the mutant heroes do.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 07:29:08 AM
IP: dialin-101-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Well, on the subject of "X-Men: Evolution", what I was particularly pleased about with Saturday's episode was that they went the direction with Magneto and his motivations that I was hoping for - the one who believes that humans will never tolerate the existence of mutants, and therefore the only hope for mutant survival is to wage war on humanity and break its power so as to keep it from posing a threat to mutantkind. I particularly liked his "You are an idealist, Charles. I am a realist" line, and his giving his enterprise an almost religious coloring when he calls those mutants who won't accept his views "unbelievers", and those who do "converts". I'm looking forward to Part Two.

Incidentally, there's one thing about the anti-mutant prejudice in "X-Men" that I recently found myself wondering about. How is it that, in the Marvel Universe, the public is (for the most part) so hostile towards mutants like the X-Men, but don't have any problems with the non-mutant super-heroes out there (most of whom have to be just as powerful - and as bizarre - as your typical Marvel Comics mutant)? I know that bigotry is irrational, but it still strikes me as very peculiar.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 07:11:32 AM
IP: sdn-ar-003mosloup294.dialsprint.net

::Pulls into the CR parking lot in a silver Mercedes-Benz CLK320. Steps out, then looks at Coyote::

Let's dance.

Well, I've done a bit of studying for my ethics final (ironic?) and I've got much more to do before Saturday, but I'm good for now. So racing sounds good for right now.

<<your skills and your Caddy against that inline 6>>: Yes, but the CLK also weighs about a quarter of the caddy. And if F=ma, as I suspect it does...well, you're fscked. 8-)

Ravyn: <<you *cheated* in your *ethics* class>>: Shows a lot about my character, doesn't it? <<that RHPS story>>: Definitely one of my proudest moments.

Jannie: Sorry about your dog.

Gside: <<Early exams on other campuses should not exist>>: What kind of defective school has finals on other campuses? <<Everything is packed together too tightly for proper replacement>>: Not in a mac laptop, but that doesn't change my point. <<BG or DII>>: BG? Diablo II? <<The name doesn't, the guy did. **salivates**>>: That was the joke. And in conclusion, Gside is a dog ;-) <<So you say, with your PSL folder>>: Hey, you don't KNOW whats in my PSL folder. <<so many good party tricks>>: More in chemistry. <>: Everyone in due time, that's my theory. <<Cannonization>>: Huh? <<you must be a true MechE to fully understand>>: No. ChemE or MatSci works just fine. <<Momentum?>>: Lots of collisions. <<where would you find a non-virging slide rule?>>: At a geek orgy. <<exactly a mole>>: LOL.

DPH: <<How many people get at least 8 hours of sleep per day?>>: I do! <<the idiot>>: Okay dude, you're 24. Get your own place already. For you to be under your dad's thumb like this is rediculous.

Parent Rants in General: Am I the only one here with the balls to stand up to my parents!? Don't let them dominate your life just because they were "generous" enough to allow you to be born. They don't have the right to treat you like sh*t. Tell them. My friend lets himself get walked over by everyone, including his parents. He's afraid to stand up to them because they'll cut him off, yet he's an amazing programmer with incredible job offers. Just grow a pair and tell them to fsck off! "but we're not like that" Is it better to be trampled on and traumatized?

FS: <<Imzadi//Gunjack flame>>: No flame. Just debate. <<You never know...>>: I'm not THAT desperate. <<The satisfaction of knowing that you are helping out a fellow CR member?>>: Like I said, what's in it for me? <>: There won't be ANY at my house. <<Then go Bi!>>: One problem: I don't like men. I find them physically repulsive. <<THAT explains alot>>: Like cheating in an ethics class. <<Does anyone here speek L33T?>>: |\|0. <<you can barely install WINDOWS on a 810mb HD>>: Supposedly, you can't install OS X either. <<What describes the being>>: Human is a physical state...I think. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...<<Why?>>: Cuz chicks are hot! <<youth in asia>>: LOL. <<pheonix gate phrase>>: you're no fun.

Allaine: Stercorem pro cerebro habes!

Aaron: <<it'd be totally inconsiderate not to do anything for whoever had their head there>>: And then your name would be Josh. 8-)

They've really got my balls in a vice grip.
-Mr. Tweek, South Park

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 06:46:13 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Coyote> <<one *knee.* >> Nope, can't do that, at least not on the Topaz. Legs are too short, and the angle's wrong.. Now my dad, he can steer with his knee at 60 and put on his tie at the same time. And he wonders why I don't like to ride with him.

Josh> <<steer with when there's a head in his lap?>> Well, one-handed would be before and during, since it'd be totally inconsiderate not to do anything for whoever had their head there. (And, if it was someone you didn't want there, you'd need at least one hand to punch them in the head. I dunno why, but I think that'd make a great scene for an anime) << If brute force doesn't work, you're not using enough.>> One of my favorite quotes.

Jannie> My condolences on your loss.

Gside> <<free car>> But then the streets would be clogged with people who can't drive, going very slowly. As opposed to now, where they still can't drive, but at least they do it fast.

DPH> <<Sleep poll>> Um, if I get 6 a night, then I've overslept. (Running on five right now, broken into chunks of three and two)

FS> <<KUNG-FU stick people!>> Yep, that's a good one. <<Are you still claiming to be two different people? :) >> Yes. Although the lines might be blurring... <> With one letter repeated. Something we never noticed until Lain mentioned it... <<Is Sodapop Crisis related to Dominion: Tank Police?>> Actually, the title for the summary was supposed to be "New Disney Movie in 2004!" The title and characters are all thinly-veiled anime characters, grafted into a traditional Disney plot. It's a reaction piece to The Secret of Atlantis. (a.k.a. Nadia, Legend of Blue Water)

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 06:24:55 AM
IP: 209.33.140.102

Something short and sweet for mature readers only... "Respite" Enjoy!!
Madame Destine - [m_destine@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 05:54:07 AM
IP: rr-56-12-110.atl.mediaone.net

Deflagrate muri tempi et intervallia! - What Goliath says

Burn down walls of time and space! - What it means

Deflagrate muros temporis et intervalia - The correct way to say it.
Fire Storm - [<--- Gargoyles spell translation page]
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 05:48:50 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

*posts sign*

Blech...voice still gone. It's been 5 days too. But luckily I'm going to see a doctor tomorrow. :)

Good Grief, my boyfriend has no backbone AT ALL. Now don't get me wrong, I care about him like crazy, but he's so wussy! He only just developed the guts to kiss me (on the cheek) today! I've kissed him, what? 3, 4 times already? He's just doesn't have the backbone to be very affectionate with me. I know he really likes me in the way I like him, because if he didn't, he'd tell me to stop snuggling up to him and kissing him. Plus, he never relaxes!!! He's always tense and alert. Am I guy having to go so far as to seduce him to get him to relax? Get rid of all that energy by going to third base with him or something? Geez...;P

Oh well, I was planning on doing it anyway. hehehe...;)

BTW, we're going to the Senior Prom together. I have my dress, shoes, and purse already. ^_^
Beth H.
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 05:29:44 AM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

I have a question I hope someone can answer for me. I'm working on my latest BtVS/Garg fanfic, and I need to know where I can find the exact words Goliath uses to activate the Phoenix Gate. Can someone tell me? Thanks.
Allaine - [eac2nd]
Philadelphia, PA
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 03:52:09 AM
IP: 64.80.115.200

Jannie > Condolences on Dolly's passing. I have seen it too often and it never does get easier.

Condolences also for Rev. Attila. Hope both he and Dolly are living it up in the non-segregated cat and dog paradise.

Kirshanta
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 03:48:03 AM
IP: g68-200.citenet.net

Firestorm>>
Spike: <Fanfic Fight Club>
Are there any artists that don't like you because once you enter a contest, you win?
I mean, give the other artists a break! They can't compete with your work!

Actually, I've won the Fanart Fight Club only once... and there are some months when I don't enter at all. The FFC is a really well-run art contest because they don't allow for any favoritism -- they only allow five finalists for voting. (Even I've been booted out of the final 5!) There's no hurt feelings among the entrants and frankly, it's great fun!

>(GREAT pic, BTW!) >> Thank you! One of these days, I'll get around to posting the story to go with it.
Spike
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 03:00:58 AM
IP: adsl-64-216-237-76.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

Sorry I haven't been here too much lately. I have been spending alot of time in a Megatokyo space weapons thread. Which
then turned into a thread about space combat, weapons, and espionage.

I *SO* wanted to take part in the Imzadi//Gunjack flame, but I guess since it is mostly over, I shouldn't. :(

***PARENT RANT!***

Don't trust your parents. Plain and simple.
I went over to my parents house Tuesday and I found some stuff out on the curb for gargbage that my parents PROMISED
they would keep for me. Maybe it was taking too much space in their EMPTY garage that they do NOT use for cars. Maybe
my stuff takes up 6 square feet in a near empty house.
It really dosn't matter any more. I know for a fact now that I cannot trust my parents to keep my stuff safe.
I know I can't trust them to help me at all. They help my sister, no problem. They tell me to come to them for help,
but when I do all I get is excuses.
And why am I writing this now? Because I am so mad that I cannot sleep.
So what do I do? Since I have absolutely NO room to store all of my stuff where I live now, my only choice seems to be
storing it in the back yard under a tarp.
::sigh:: I will figure something out. It is truly a sad day when you realize that the people that have said for years
that they will help you actually will NOT help you.

***END RANT!***

Aaron: <"Is mass suicide yummy?">
Only when you are a necrovore!
<Beats me, there was a Pizza Hut built right into the hotel, and that was all I needed.>
True... but I wanted something different! Hell, I was in TEXAS. I wanted some Tex-Mex...
And the only Tex-Mex I had was at the buffet.
<Funny, it's 18 where I'm from>
Hmm. Guess it varies.
<it wouldn't happen to be a bunch of stick people, would it?>
KUNG-FU stick people!

Imzadi: <The more data we have, the more difficult it is to manage it all>
That is way too true. Tons of burned CD's and I don't know what's in half of them.

Been there. Alot. This week, in fact.
<As if I could get any without it!>
Just as I thought!
<You wouldn't be Jewish, would you?>
Na. I just know to buy low and stock up when I can.
<You realize I wasn't literally talking about a Hoover, right?>
You never know...
<Yes, I could. What's in it for me?>
The satisfaction of knowing that you are helping out a fellow CR member?
<I'll be staying at home for this gathering...>
Probally a good idea. But I doubt that there will be as many roaches this year.
<the fanfic archive is down again>
Well, it WAS up.
<If I were gay, I'd be the happiest man alive>
Then go Bi! If women think you are gay, you become thier safe gay male friend! And that opens up SO many possibilities!

And THAT explains alot.

Gside: <You should try something smaller first to loosen it up, then keep pushing to break the final barrier.>
LOL!
<Remember, this is a space ship. So we have the air pressure insice versus a vacuum outside. >
And here I was, think that we were talking about naval ships.

It is pretty darn cool!
<Because the generals get to decide what is a war crime and what isn't.>
War crime, shmar crime... If it needs to be done, then it needs to be done.
<But which three states?>
Denial, euphoria, Mississippi
<We gave the school girls uniforms with short plaid skirts>
Yum Yum good!
<Only if you have the cat o' nine tails and nun's habit>
Well, I guess I could always confess! Just help me keep a running tally of sins, ok?
<Homonecropyrobestialiacs having too much fun>
Coming this fall to FOX!
<Yo> j0?
"Does anyone here speek L33T?"
<But since it is pretty much a permanent affliction (assuming I never go to jail), I can't let it bother me too much.>
Don't worry. We'll get you nice and hookered up! :)
<If I get to be Bruno>
That is one name that shall be forever banned in my world!
<And I AM the man. Sorry, I just had to do that>
"I AM *GOD* HERE!"
<Sadly, I'm too cheap to buy my own.>
You do get a regular supply though, right?
<We haven't gotten that far yet. Absolutely no solder in labs.>
LAMER! I have burned my self with soldering irons since I was 6! (And then I got better... a few months ago)
<Heck, you could barely install BG or DII on that thing>
Hell, you can barely install WINDOWS on a 810mb HD!
<"I'm free again you !@#$%^" - Moxy Fr�vous, Kasparov vs. Deep Blue>
POST IT! POST IT!

Aaron: <Aaron (Not Robby)>
Robby: <Robby (not Aaron)>
Are you still claiming to be two different people? :)
I mean, both your handles have the same number of letters!

Hyperion: <So wouldn't that imply the at one point Hudson had a name>
Leader. Rookery Father.

Kit: <glancing at two girls in very scant bikinis with distaste>
I take it that you disprove of how the director treated Cordy a few weeks ago, eh?

Spike: <Fanfic Fight Club>
Are there any artists that don't like you because once you enter a contest, you win?
I mean, give the other artists a break! They can't compete with your work!
(GREAT pic, BTW!)
<You can vary it by adding garlic or cayenne pepper to the mix>
And I will be the first to say that garlic is a VERY POWERFULL irritant!

Gay Discussion: So much to say, but so little I actually WANT to say!

Gunjack: <What exactly defines a basic human right?>
What describes the being that deserves that basic human right?
<The quote is from Sneakers>
Ce Tech Astronomy
<Niiiiiiice! How big is this Saturn?>
Well, it is approximately very large and has an average density less than that of water.

Doug: <Am I the only one in here who fails to understand this thing's appeal?>
Nope. It is just one of those movies that is so wierd that you either love it or don't understand it//Hate it.
<Lesbian I have little problem with>
That is SUCH a double standard. But it is a socially accpetable one.
Why?

DPH: <I'm TWENTY-FOUR YEARS OLD; I should be able to make most of my own decisions>
I agree. I am sorry that you haven't been getting much support in here.
People fail to understand why people like us don't just move out or stand up to whoever is bossing us around like that.
But I understand. People ask why I complain about things like privacy and that person in control when I don't pay
bills, etc. We do have a right to expect BASIC things like that, don't we?

Why pay someone else when you can do it yourself!
<Will those hot ones protect my bell peppers from being devored by rabbits?>
Depends. Habereno's? Maybe.

Coyote: The Motor City Comic Con is next weekend (May 18-20).
Any plans? Demona is gonna be there.
<However, I've encountered far too many *stupid* people driving SUV's on the roads here>
Take away the SUV part and you just described every driver in this area!

Aaron: <and two twin cat girls who pilot the mini tank Napoleon>
Is Sodapop Crisis related to Dominion: Tank Police?

**FS bows his head down in silence**
We have lost too many good pets this week.

Rodlox: <does Toon Disney sell tapes of Gargoyles and Goliath Chronicles?>
Don't we as a fandom wish.

Pistoff: <Now, I just have to get used to that tiny keyboard>
It is truly amazing how easy it is to get used to it!

Greg Bishanksy: <How many people in here even read TGS?>
I definately do!
<They shouldn't have put him in jail>
I think they put him in jail because they hated Fieger! If you take Jack out of the picture, Fieger should go to,
right?
Oh, how little did they know!
<Hindus believe a cow is a sacred animal, and treat it as a walking God.>
Does that mean that they are not allowed to eat Jello or Twinkies? Or McDonalds Frys? :)

Spacebabie: <Maybe for the first half Sata could Time Dance on her own.>
Ohh... now THAT is a good idea!
<Another Question How many licks does it take to destroy the Earth's candy shell?>
The world may never know.

SJ: <he just really, really, REALLY gets off on killing people>
I disagree. He got off on the MEDIA ATTENTION! The killing people was just a perk.
Trust me... He is from Michigan and he was on the local news every day for several years! (From death 12 to him in
prison)

Such a good little monkey!

Lain: <Mutant Enemy>
Hell, one or two hundred more and you got yourself a new computer!

Warpmind: <If all good men are either taken or gay, why am I still a virgin?>
Well, we still need SOME blood for our spells!

EUTHANASIA: The biggest problem with euthanasia is that when they are not in school, they have nothing to do. I mean,
look at how it was in Tieanniman Square in China all those years ago. Those Euths were just there making trouble.

How I met Lady Mystic: Well, it was during the war. You see, my squad and I were charging over the hill when Big Jake,
my squad's heavy machine gunner, in front of me stepped on a land mine. Blew my leg clean off my body and I was knocked
unconcious. When I woke up, I looked up and saw the most beautiful woman above me. I thought I was seeing an angel and
I thought I was dead. But it was Lady Mystic. Needless to say, I instantly fell in love with her. But after a few weeks
in the hospital, I was shipped back stateside and I thought I would never see her again. But I did!
OH... and my leg grew back.

Scars: Besides the shrapnel wounds and leg scar from the war, my arms have burn scars on them from boiling garlic, a
dime-sized scar on my thumb from a mistake I made cutting glass... A few on the bottom of my feet (bricks, nails,
etc)... one or two I do NOT want to mention...
Lady Mystic, on the other hand, has some interesting scars... You see, there is this horizontal scar on her side from
her spine to inside her breast. She got this when someone took a knife to her. You see, they were aiming at her heart
and they got her good! From the same incident, she also has 2 small, stiletto-type scar wounds about 2 inches below
that. She barely made it out of that with her life! Fortunately, the doctors were like RIGHT THERE, and they saved her.
(And yes, those scars of her's are really there. Only the facts have been polished to make it sound much cooler than it
really is... but not by much.)
DANG! In the 5 years that I have know her (Wow... it was 5 years since I tickled her little belly with that blade of
grass? Hmm... that was the first time I saw it.) that scar has gone from very noticable to barely there. You should
have seen it when it was new! Wish I did...

(Really, though, How I met Lady Mystic: She was in front of me in Sign Language. VERY nice looking bod! Well, for the
longest time she had this poster of a clarinet (long story), which I offered to carry to her next class for her (She
refused). She got sick and disappered :(
The next semester, I started to sit with a friend of mine for lunch. LM happened to be her friend too, so LM sat with
us. Our friend started to sit somewhere else, leaving the two of us alone. LM and I started to get to know each other
more and more, and I was REALLY attracted to her, and from how my social life had gone the past 17 years, I decided to
just be friends with her. One day, I was going to ask her to go to the prom with me (as a friend)...
SHE WAS GONE! She got sick! I thought I would NEVER see her again. I got SO sad. I did something stupid.
THEN SHE CAME BACK! Yeah!
LM then had to stay after school for art class and I stayed with her. I was determined to just be friends with her when
she blew that whole idea out of the water! (Darn woman being smart!) She told me she really liked me!
Well, the rest is history, which means I AIN'T TELLING!)
Fire Storm - [<--- Guandalug version of the FanFic Archive!]
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 12:46:58 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

**WARNING INCOMING TRUTH AND IDIOT RANT**
I wish it was not so. The idiot is mad at me for . . . oversleeping. Quick poll: How many people get at least 8 hours of sleep per day? Anyways, he has decided to lock me out of the computer room for a week. Good thing I know how to unlock it. What's even funnier? His birthday is coming up, but I never can remember the date [he told me]. I think I know why I can't remember ever the date. If you think I'm paranoid, this is the same idiot who locked me out of the computer room for stopping to rest my back while hanging out laundry.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, May 9, 2001 12:39:03 AM
IP: max1-68.cwy.cei.net

Howdy all,

Got up early so with some time on my hands I thought I'd toss in my two cents.

Warning **** Buffy/Angel Spoilers **** Warning

Both shows didn't disappoint. Had to adjust my thinking though. I usually expect the light-hearted banter to come from Buffy and the deep brooding character soul searching to come from Angel. It was a little tough seeing one come from the other. I absolutely love Buffy going into shellshock at the end. One thing that bugged me was that Dawn once saw Ben morph into Glory. How come that didn't register. *shrug* It did make me nostalgic for the days of the Mayor when we had pieces of the puzzle to gnaw on between episodes before 'The Plan' was revealed. I think we got little or nothing on this whole thing outside Glory is a god and turns into Ben. I will say I was at the edge of my seat when Ben had the needle. Quick, painless, totally unsuspecting, I thought he'd do it.

Angel was good, but it left a question in my head. Why? With such intriguing storylines and delicious characters like Darla and Dru. Why leave LA for Pylea? I'm glad Wolfram & Hart got some mention, and Angel whipping out with a lawyer as vampire joke fun on a couple of levels. I definately like how Wesley and Gunn get along. Loved the fight in the town square, I thought they'd get out of that one. The surprise ending was a little too cartoony for Angel. When you've downed as much toon time as I have the outsider proclaimed as new ruler usually means there's a bigger nastier surprise is waiting in the wings. If I were Cordelia, I'd ask if there are any volcanoes, dragons or other immenient disasters that need a human sacrifice while lacing up my Nikes and looking for the next portal.

Still got some time before I go. I guess I can comment on X-men. The Crucible would have been better title, but it'd get confused with the play. It's a cool idea, perfectly in line with Magento. The fight between Mystique and Storm was the coolest. I'm getting a disappointing vibe from Scott's brother. I think he'll become Havoc if my memory of the comic-verse is correct. I'm guessing he'll fill the void of Rogue as reluctant villain. The show telegraphs its punches. The good guys are brighter colored and more attractively drawn, while the villains have heavier shadows and sharper features. Besides, the bad guys need another member to even up the sides.

Well, my time is up. Hope to keep in touch soon. Toodles!
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 10:19:37 PM
IP: cbl064.pool008.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

"I'm free again you !@#$%^" - Moxy Fr�vous, Kasparov vs. Deep Blue

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 09:41:43 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

I'm sorry to hear about the pug's death. This is quite sad; two pets die so close to each other.

* BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS *

BUFFY: I've got to agree with Bishansky on this one; Ben really isn't very bright. Though I came to that conclusion a while before, when he was foolish enough to accidentally let slip to one of Glory's minions that the Key was a person, and even bungled the job of killing it, allowing it to live long enough to inform Glory.

At any rate, I'm glad that we now know the who's who and what's what with Glory and Ben - and the whole purpose of the Key. It makes Glory's threatened use of it even more chilling now - the complete destruction (or hopeless merging) of all universes.

I got a bit of a chuckle out of Spike's description of the Knights as "role-playing rejects" - after the bit where they brought in the clerics, they did feel all the more almost D&Dish. The Knights made effective antagonists - and their determination to destroy Dawn chilling, but actually, in a way, understandable. After all, if the Key is used by Glory, the result will be the end of everything - from that angle, killing one young girl would seem the lesser of two evils, a case of "one person must die so that everything else can survive".

Does anybody besides me suspect that Ben may wind up, the next time he regains control of his body, either committing suicide or getting someone to kill him, as the one means of stopping Glory forever?

And I noticed, to my amusement, that Anya still isn't very fond of rabbits (given the way that she described the Bugs Bunny/Elmer Fudd feud). I also got a chuckle out of the "truck" scene.

ANGEL: I liked this one as well (and can agree that it's understandable that the Host doesn't want to return). Anybody besides me think that the woman talking to Cordelia (before she got captured) was the librarian who got pulled in in the last episode (Fred was her name, I believe)? And I also found Angel's response to the fact that he doesn't burn up under the suns of Pylea a lot of fun.

But the big surprise was the ending. Cordelia as the new ruler of Pylea? I've got to admit, I definitely didn't see that one coming. Next week's episode should be good.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 07:18:21 PM
IP: 168.191.170.11

*The fabric parts, and Lynati Kshudra enters*

Why is my nose bleeding? why have I suddenly got infected pores in bad places? Why is my answering machine full again? Why am I still awake?

I dunno. I really, really, would like to.

...and for the record...NO. I do NOT have a "wife and two kida". *thbbbbbbbbbbbtt*

i don't feel well.

scars...the two-inch one on my leg from where they took out the bone...the weird one on my knee from when I skinned off the giant scab already covering it when I was little..the knife scar on the back of one of my fingers, the glass v-shaped scar on the back of another finger...all the rest are covered up; I don't shave. although, the weird scar on my arm from the nail clippers is still visible.

...murphy's law says that the one time that you do not put the locking mechanism on your wire sheers is the one time that it falls off the table and lands in your foot.

ooh, and at present, about two dozen chicken-wire scratches that may or may(most likely) not scar. (of course, if they do, they still won't be visible...
*scratches at arm hair, and is glad she takes after her dad*

Oh, and I think my dad has been replaced by an alien.
(...Mainly because I'd rather delude myself than accept that he doesn't want me home for the summer.)

*shrugs, and stumbles out*
Lynati Kshudra
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 04:11:18 PM
IP: 207.94.232.19

Jannie> Sorry to hear about your dog. It's hard to lose a favorite pet.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 11:41:39 AM
IP: dialin-743-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Well, Principles is down, and cog sci shouldn't be too bad. The only problem will be being conscious. Early exams on other campuses should not exist. Heck, I don't mind weekend exams as much. Everything blends together on the days I don't have exams.

Lynati> <<I'm going to be right after I catch up>>: I should hope so. It would be a shame if you were not at any time in the forseeable future. Though it might be excused for any brief time travel.

Imzadi> <<I've been swinging in trees all week>>: Great relaxant, no?
<<For either the same price or just a bit more, you could get an entirely NEW laptop>>: Laptops should not be upgraded. Everything is packed together too tightly for proper replacement.
<<If you only have 810 MB, where do you store all your full-length movies?>>: Heck, you could barely install BG or DII on that thing. Let alone more than one season of Ranma.
<<Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?>>: The name doesn't, the guy did. **salivates**
<<Simple minds, simple pleasures, I guess>>: So you say, with your PSL folder.
<<There is nothing fun about biology>>: But there's so many good party tricks you can pull on people. Of course, there's some good small physics demos you can pull off, too.
<<Implying that homonecropyrobestialiacs *SHOULD* be in the next season?>>: No, implying that I don't want to I don't want to see them in general.
<<Oh, ye of little faith>>: I have yet to see any evidence to be optimistic about this situation.
<<Kindly explain to me how exactly a CAT used to post>>: If I were to tell you my opinion, it would ruin the suspension of disbelief. But I believe it is the same way Attila the Hun would post from the Baron's IP.
<<one of my duties was feeding the chickens (no, not to geeks)>>: Shame, that. Every camp should have a geek or two.
<<What more could we want?>>: Cannonization?
<<You have to ask>>: You're right, I know the answer. But I still want to know why he thinks it's supposed to be bad.
<<What does that mean, anyway?>>: About time you asked. It's a Ukranian toast, translation to best of health, or something like that. I felt like adding a tagline to my posts one day, and settled on that.
<<And about as mentally challenging as watching linoleum peel>>: But you must be a true MechE to fully understand the peeling, no?
<<If she was cute>>: The bug? Mechanophilliac.
<<the female body is a much nicer, softer, more aesthetically pleasing form>>: Lithe and sleek versus rugged and chiseled? Heck, yeah.
<<Every roller coaster is a physics problem in conservation of energy and/or momentum>>: Momentum? How many collisions do you get on your roller coasters?
<<Principle #1: Smell bad>>: Check.
<<Principle #2: Caffeine is your friend>>: Sadly, I'm too cheap to buy my own.
<<Principle #3: The pointy end of the soldering iron should be directed away from you>>: We haven't gotten that far yet. Absolutely no solder in labs.
<<Did I forget any?>>: Well, there's some mention about LaPlace, RLC, OpAmps, filters, and whatnot, but that's all secondary.

Well wishes to Beedoo.

Imzadi> <>: But there's still plenty of room for adventures that were skipped over, especially during the Egypt period.
<<and scantily clad females, of course. Who cares if it's below zero outside?>>: That way you get to see exactly how much below zero it is.

Sev. Jr.> <<My logger girlfriend from Niagra Falls, Ontario, Canada>>: Allright, just what is the source for this?

Imzadi> <<virgin slide rulers>>: And where would you find a non-virging slide rule?

Revel> <<Hope you were not hungry>>: After being raised by biologists, I just get interested.

Spacebabie> <<How many licks does it take to destroy the Earth's candy shell?>>: Oddly enough, exactly a mole.

Warpmind> <<Wazat referring to?>>: Allegely, if you ever see a character dressed in purple and green, you know that they will be a villian. The look was pioneered by the Joker.
<>: The Shokushu stuff, right? The portrait is rather boring, but the one with the school girl is nice.

Aaron> <<Never teach your kids to drive on a sports car>>: My father proposes to give each novice driver a free car. The body is from a 57 Chevy, build like a tank, the engine coming from a lawnmower.

Jannie> Condolences on Dolly.

And because it has been running through my head, the new mp3 is The Long Black Veil as performed by the Chieftans, with some help from Mick Jagger.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 11:36:46 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

**enters and leaves flowers for Dolly** You have my condolences, Jannie.

**tries to give comfort by quickly sketching a picture on a convenient blackboard of Dolly, Rev. Attila and Stormy (his own dog) frolicking in Heaven**
Coyote the Bando
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 11:33:27 AM
IP: 64.243.214.149

*walks in with tear stained cheeks and red eyes*
*lays a red rose on the table*

My beloved pug dog, Dolly passed away tonight. She was 16 years old and a fighter to the end. She didn't take crap from anyone, was as stubborn as a mule, and had the best appetite I've ever seen for a dog. We've had her since she was 6 months old and she has endured several moves, Anna dressing her up in Cabbage Patch clothes, different brothers and sisters come and go, and a trip to Wyoming a couple of summers ago. She was a black pug - which is unusual. My nephew used to refer to her as "Aunt Jan's pig" (instead of pug)
Dolly P. Miller will be terribly missed and her memory forever in our minds and hearts. We have enough laughs and memories of her to last a lifetime.
My mom - who knows just about everything there is to know about the Bible - says that animals go to Heaven. I certainly hope so.
Be at peace, my Dolly girl.
*begins to cry again and leaves*
Jannie
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 11:17:16 AM
IP: modem17-48.mo-net.com

*** BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS ***

A very good episode of Buffy tonight. Lots of drama and action. Light on the comedy, but it would have been out of place here. We now know what the Key is, and the true origin of Glorificus. The Knights themselves made interesting villains, and are a good example of what was wrong with the dark ages.

More than ever now I think Ben is a moron. When he realized where he was going, he should have known that if he changed into Glory there, he'd be placing them all in danger. Then again, it was to help Giles. But I still wonder about him.

The cliffhanger was well done and I eagerly look forward to the next episode. I can't think of anything wrong with this, so I give it a 10/10 thumbs way up.

Angel was a fun episode. Not powerful and dramatic like Buffy, but a nice contrast. I can see why the Host would hate his dimension. I'd want out of that Hell hole also. The ending was very good, unexpected though, I was expecting a cliffhanger, but well done nonetheless.

Angel's reaction to standing in the sun was priceless. He seems to be far less broody lately. I give this an 8/10 thumbs up.

*** End Buffy/Angel Spoilers ***
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 10:52:10 AM
IP: dialin-743-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

**walks into the room in typical '60s-ish drag-racer-girlfriend skirt and attire** Okay, I have no other way to describe that kind of outfit. Hope you all have seen what I'm talkin' about. So anyway, I decided I'd ditch the fireproof jacket and helmet for a day, and just be a girlfriend. ;)

Coyote> **grins** Okay, now you sound exactly like me at the drag strip...we're thinkin' alike again...;) And I'd definitely have to go with you in that match-up...with your skills and your Caddy against that inline 6...my money's on the Caddy. ;) But...at the risk of inducing further nausea in the CR...my heart's with the driver. **huggles** :)

Josh> **laughs** Okay, now *that's* funny...you *cheated* in your *ethics* class....:) <<Depends on the song. Is it Nine Inch Nails' "Closer"?>> Um, no...;) But it IS Collin Raye's "My Kind of Girl..." ;) And that RHPS story about the dude in the Ferrari is just hilarious. :)

**straightens her skirt, then waves to Coyote in his Caddy, smiling and ready to cheer him on in case of a race** ;)
Ravyn
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 09:29:58 AM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Josh: Hmm ... put my '79 Caddy big block V8 against a Mercedes CLK with a Daimler Kompressor inline 6, huh?

Hmm ... put my performance-tuned car that's beaten Corvettes over a *decade* younger against the best Germany has to offer?

**grins, runs out of the room, then returns driving the newly-running Caddy** Bring it on!!! ;)
Coyote the Bando
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 08:49:58 AM
IP: 64.243.214.111

HAHAHAHA! That geology class was my last class of the semester! All that's left are reviews and finals. In just 12 days, I'll be home. I can't wait.

For those of you want to know about my moral character (and especially Gunjack, who said I was the first intellectually honest moral subjectivist), I offer this bit of info I realized about myself yesterday: I cheated in my ethics class. When I realized this, my friends and I did not stop laughing for 2 minutes.

Jannie: <<likely to give you hug>>: I'll live. 8-)

Azrael: <>: Whatever! I totally won that debate! ;-) <<Advice>>: I offer this advice TO YOU: stay out of your friends' silly relationships. It doesn't pay to be the guy with advice, as no one ever listens to you anyway. I know this both from being the guy with the advice and the guy who received the advice (which I promptly ignored and did exactly what I wanted).

Coyote: <<if I'm making out in the Caddy, I sure as *hell* ain't gonna be driving>>: I know. I was just mincing words.

Hyperion: <<no offense intended>>: None taken. Quite frankly, I don't want to know. 8-) <<artwork>>: Post! Lets see it!

Lynati: <<lain won't be back on the internet for a while>>: Okay she emailed me her phone number, should I just call her there? Or is there another place I can reach her at? If there is, could you email it to me?

Revel: <>: I'm not gonna say anything...

Spacebabie: <<There is a difference>>: See? My point exactly. Easy to compare. <<the Earth's candy shell>>: There's a candy shell? YES! <<Blame Canada defense>>: When "Canada" says "yeah, our bad ::settlement::". No sooner. <<No wonder they don't turn me on>>: I really don't think an SUV turns anyone on. Nor should it. Its a monster.

Warpmind: <<where's my firing squad?>>: LOL. <<Wel'' see who has more girls around him>>: Obviously you haven't read most of my recent posts...I might be bringing a date to Gathering, which means that as long as you have TWO girls around you, you'll win that "contest". <<If all good men are either taken or gay, why am I still a virgin?>>: Logically, you must not be a good man. <<that'll probably get taken care of>>: Does Lyn know that? <<I'm not taking that chance>>: LOL!

Aaron: <<They'll never drive anything else>>: I've driven a million different cars, and I'll drive whatever I can afford to, sports cars be damned! 8-) <<signs>>: LOL. Personally, I prefer electrified fences and flying attack porcupines to signs, but whatever works. <<But can you steer it one-handed?>>: Who cares? The question is: can he steer with when there's a head in his lap? <<We've had "bigger is *always* better" beaten into our heads>>: If brute force doesn't work, you're not using enough. <<Just point and click>>: LOL again. <<You didn't tell us you were Borg>>: Makes me start to wonder about what assimilated gargoyles and anthropomorphs would look like. <<they don't actually let The Rock talk. That's because>>: No, I think its because he has the IQ of desert sand and the acting skills of an obelisk.

Coyote: <<draggin' some punk>>: I demand a race between your caddy and my mom's CLK. Time to kick some ass and chew some bubble gum...problem is, I'm all outta gum. 8-)

Being a Linux user is sort of like living in a house inhabited by a large family of carpenters and architects. Every morning when you wake up, the house is a little different. Maybe there is a new turret, or some walls have moved. Or perhaps someone has temporarily removed the floor under your bed.
- Unix for Dummies, 2nd Edition

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 07:57:44 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Aaron: One handed is for sissies. I can drive my Caddy with one *knee.* And I've done that on occasion ... I usually wind up controlling it with just my thumbs, only needing to clutch the wheel fully when I'm draggin' some punk who thinks he's hot s**t in a beat up mid-'80s Camaro ... and beating him off the line to prove that in the world of cars, his needs Viagra. ;)

Speaking of the Caddy ... after a little bit of coaxing, a new ignition module, a little bit of ether and a scary moment where it looked like I'd set my carburetor on fire ... I got it running today for the first time since I started this whole "let's give the Caddy a tuneup" escapade *FOUR MONTHS AGO.* Now I just gotta buy a weld stik tomorrow at work so I can do a quickie fix on the radiator on Thursday ... and so I can actually (oh my God!!) DRIVE MY OWN CAR TO WORK on Friday. :)
Coyote the Bando
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 07:34:40 AM
IP: 64.243.214.111

Gunjack> <<Link?>> Lemme look around. I get like a billion of these catalogs. <<(Horse)Power corrupts.>> Like Stormy said, "Never teach your kids to drive on a sports car. They'll never drive anything else." <<Sounds like a plan to ME!>> I'll run it by Robby. <<wonderful little sign>> "Forget the dog, beware of owner." "We don't dial 911." Or my personal favorite, "Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be prosecuted." <<abandon a fellow Texan>> You're a great guy, but you don't compare to Mara. Sorry. Besides, don't you have a RHPS thing to get to?

Josh> Yes, Big O does sound wrong.

Coyote> <<my Caddy>> But can you steer it one-handed?

Euthanasia> Chinese kids? (Sound it out) But seriously, I'm a Callous Pragmatist. We're pro-dead people. ;)

Shinigami> <<What in the world makes you think that more room equals better?>> �Cause we're *guys*, love. We've had "bigger is *always* better" beaten into our heads from day one. <<if I can convince Robin>> Hmmmmm..... no.

Azrael> <<How can we kill someone who didn't do anything wrong?>> Just point and click.

Scars> Um, mine are pretty lame. I've got one on my chin from jumping off a slide in preschool. Four stitches. And one on my right calf from a crisco can lid that came through the bag while I was taking out the trash. �Bout an inch long.

Relationships> Not lame there. :D But y'all got to watch that one develop.

kathy> <<Auctions are bad. BAD! BAD! But they're so durn fun too.>> Oh yeah.

Spike> My best to Beedoo!.

DPH> <<What is the point of the Olympics?>> Endorsements.

Revel> <<A new born with about thrity hoses and wires sticking out every direction>> You didn't tell us you were Borg.

Mummy 2> Notice they don't actually let The Rock talk. That's because in the early shooting, he kept telling O'Connell and Imotep to "Just bring it, jabronies." and asking if they could "Smell what the Scorpion King was cooking."

Warpy> Welcome back. <<string-thingies that go down stairs>> A slinky?

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 06:28:05 AM
IP: 209.33.140.102

**WARNING: DC DEATH**
*Warpmind enters, eyes glowing a burning red as he homes in on DC. "You! Nine days I have been offline! Nine whole days, the phone has been down! You will PAY!!!" DC takes a slow step back, "Now, surely we can come to..." With a swift pounce, Warpmind slams DC up against the wall, severing both arms at the elbows, and breaking both of DC's knees. "No agreement, DC! You've just made me VERY upset." The two vanish in a small cloud of blood droplets, and shortly after the screams end, Warpmind stands there alone, with three dozen small parcels around him, all labeled to be sent to different corners of the world.*

Ahhh... I feel better now. After nine whole days, this'll probably be a mammoth post.

Christine: About 90% of my stuff was salvageable, mostly because I have backups on my old 486... Unfortunately, some of the newest stuff wasn't backed up yet. (Which reminds me - I'll need to get a copy of my G'01 writing contest entry from you - it's one of the few files that's inevitably gone.)

Kit: Vengeance has already come around... the neighbours dog chewed up some of their toys. };) (Big black lab, WAY too friendly. He won't bite you, just lick you to death.)

Gside: Purple and green? *Krakablink* Wazat referring to?

Josh: My near-fatal loss of data is humorous to you? Tsk, where's my firing squad? *Thinks* Damn, that's right... I had them shot for insubordination... };)

Revel: I used to have one of them string-thingies that go down stairs... now THAT was a hell to even consider trying to untangle.

Stephen Sobotka: Music that fits me? Hmmm... the all-time most appropriate might be "Still Crazy After All These Years"... };)

Mara/Aaron: To settle any nervosity you may have had: all the paperwork I need is now in my hands. Now, there are no noteworthy beureaucratic impediments, save one minor detail I'll get back to you about in an e-mail shortly.

Aaron: As I've said, about 90% recovery.

Doug: All hail, all hail. I'm with you on gays being okay people, as long as they stay off my ass. };) (Note: I spent a week on Lanzarote with a movie crew and a couple guys for a documentary - Murphy's gotta love me, 'cause I shared the hotel room with the gay transvestite. Great guy, really. Good conversationalist, even.)

SJ: True - innocent flirt is harmless. And I'd only too cheerfully just ignore it. Groping, however, will only lead to broken fingers...

Josh: Bald isn't beautiful? Hmmm... you're attending the Gathering? Wel'' see who has more girls around him, then... 'cause *I* am going to shave my head first. };)

Lain: I know you miss me, but I'm BAAAAAAACK!!! :D :D :D

Revel: *Chuckle* You're actually *worried* about someone calling you a pervert? *Unethical grin* Hmmm... I gotta get the right size frames for those two pics I got Mara to draw for me... };)

Beth: If all good men are either taken or gay, why am I still a virgin? };) (Seriously, in a few years, give or take, that'll probably get taken care of...)

This SUV bashing bit is much like a statistic I heard... "5-10% of all traffic accidents happen in a state of intoxication. Which means 90-95% of all traffic accidents happen in sober condition. I'm not taking that chance. Cheers!" };)

Lynati: Small correction - this time, no tree. Old cable. VERY old cable.

The Reanimator: Apparently, I was a ship's captain by the name Teti, and, well... "You commanded rickety seagoing vessels and traded with the Phoenician cities, importing cedar wood, slaves and other merchandise and were sent as the first Egyptian trade expedition to the Land of Punt. Your ship was steered by six oars and had sixteen rowing oars. A rock served as anchor. Many slaves were used to row your ship, and you did not make your home in any particular city or port. Life as a nomad was difficult, and you did not make many friends outside of your trade. You spent the evenings drinking and gaming on your boat, and joking with the other ship captains. Unlike most Ancient Egyptians, you traveled to many exotic and distant places." *Chuckle* Damn, but that's kinda eerie, really... reminds me a lot of my social life in *this* incarnation... :/

*Raises a glass solemnly* To Reverend Attila Forsyth, fellow minister of the Universal Life Church. Bon Voyage, my furry friend.

Pistoff: That pic's a poster, it's been a magazine cover many times over, it's been used in parodies... let's just say that there are many hands involved in that entire story. };) And I agree, MJ is disturbing... and he's a damn PEPSI drinker! *Shudder* };) (No offense to Pepsi drinkers, but I'll have my Coca-Cola, thank you.) And congrats on that fist you found. Any luck in trying to recover the rest of the guy? };)

Greg B: I read TGS. I'm only slightly behind in the latest season. (The last ep left, I think...)

Beth: Congrats on the David developments, sorry about the sickness! Get well soon!

And I'll call it quits for now... at least I'm done with last week... I'll catch up with *this* week later... *Blows smoke out of the keyboard*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 12:29:28 AM
IP: mp-216-43-8.daxnet.no

****Kyryn jumps into the room, incidentally squashing DC.**** (That's for the Yahoo!groups problems of the past two weeks.)

Spike>Thanks for letting us know about Beedoo! My prayers go out for her and her family.

Sevarius, Jr.><<Now if they will only sign Kurt Angel to a three picture deal. He'll bring intelligence, integrity, and intensity to every role he takes, it's true, it's true!>>*snicker* Only if he manages to get his medals back from Chris Benoit.<<Forgive me, as any true WWF fan knows, I must have been channeling Chris Jericho there, for I called Kurt ANGLE, "Kurt Angel".>>I guess it could be called a Y2J glitch....

Later, All!

****Kyryn jumps out the nearest window.****

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Tuesday, May 8, 2001 12:28:00 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Warning Spoilers for the Mummy Returns.

Well I saw the new Mummy movie yesterday, and it kicked ARSE. I liked the revelations of Evee. She reminds me of a combo of Meryt and Sata...Actually a lot ofthe characters remind me of Time Dancer characters. The effect were stunning loved the bus ride through London, loved the Scorpion King. and That Kid was great. I liked his smart alecyness. Very good movie I highly recomend it.

END SPOILERS

Apples and Oranges>>There is a difference If I eat an apple everyday I don't break out in an allergic rash.

Sailormoon off Toonami>>> Thank god for Fansubs

Speaking of animes...Were the creater of Utena listening to Pink Floyd at the time??? Melting dresses, Angelina jolie complexes, Moneky mice and that secret dueling ground with the floatin castle?
Well the music((Where Utena climbs the stairway and during the duels sounds like something Queen will sing. And I adore Miki.

Another Question How many licks does it take to destroy the Earth's candy shell?

Wilek>>>Oh My God! When will thse idiots stop using the Blame Canada defense?

Sevarius jr>>>> LOL about SUV's..No wonder they don't turn me on.

Scars>>>Don't have any..Never broke a bone neither. I have had two black eyes, a buckled wrist bone, water on the knee, and plenty of sprains, bruises and pulled muscles.

Spacebabie
Orlando, FL
Monday, May 7, 2001 10:48:45 PM
IP: user-37kapg8.dialup.mindspring.com

What the hell am I doing up this early?! Oh that's right I got up to have breakfast with Janna because she has a final at eight. Well that answers the relationship question. The moral of the story is: nice guy=no extra sleep. Oh well.
Scars- where do I begin. With the 20 some odd I have on my head, why I will never shave my hair. Those are from transfusions I had at three months old. I bet I was an interesting sight. A new born with about thrity hoses and wires sticking out every direction hooked up to all these beeping machines that said I was going to die. I have IV scars in my wrists, ankles, arms, legs, even in my knuckles. I look like a fricking drug addict. I have a knife scar on my right indext finger. One across my foot when I stepped on a piece of glass and a couple of chunks from my left hand from football. A dog bite scar on my left leg, but that one has healed nicely and the topper of them all, pin hole scars on my left eye. Yes I have scars on my EYEBALL! I was stabbed in the eye by a vine and the pieces were jabbed in my eye. I can only see them though when I stare at a white surface though.
Hope you were not hungry.

Josh- I caught that mounting joke, har har. Thanks for the icon job.

SJ-I don't compare my anatomy to my car, but I do happen to think I have a very nice penis.

"If you believe in De javu and have done this before it probably means you screwed it up the first time."
-Mark Twain-
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Monday, May 7, 2001 09:33:46 PM
IP: acae8550.ipt.aol.com

*stumbles in, trying to scratch the gross combination of wax and paper mache from her hands*

Imzadi: lain won't be back on the internet for a while. Not only is Mutant Enemy currently being serviced, but lain is moving into her summer place and they don't have an internet hookup yet anyway.

I didn't have time to read (posts) more than that; I only had a total of 3 1/2 hours sleep today, and it was broken into two segments. However, the reasons for not sleeping that night (had to finish reading Catch-22, walks down to Kinko's, and artwork) all came to good. I got an A on my book quiz, my Poster for the comp. class got a good review, and I am Getting Stuff Done(TM) in my foundations class.
I gotta e-mail Warps, then sleep for me.

*Yawns and passes out, vaguely wondering where the burn on her pinky came from*

Lynati Kshudra
Monday, May 7, 2001 04:48:48 PM
IP: 207.94.232.172

Wow, two posts in one day...Either I'm bored ot of my skull...or something else.
Imzadi>><dating> unfortanately it's not qute that simple for me. To be brief, I've never bothered with memeber of the distaff sex for quite some time, untill recently...Current events around here have made things vastly more *interesting* SO here I am..<shrug>
Sketchy? yes, but I don't go discussing my personal problems with peopel I don't really know, no offense intended.
Graphics> I don't do much gargoyles stuff for two reasons, one I prefer coming up with my own people and settings and two, I think it's been done to the death.
That saidf, if you're still interested in seeing some of my work, I'd be happy to e-mail it to you. Hell, I might convince myself to post a link for all here to see. We'll see how I feel about at the time.
Good work though, and to everyone else who contributed things to your project.

Hyperion - [hyperion@justicemail.com]
Monday, May 7, 2001 01:40:09 PM
IP: ba-183.adsl.stargate.net

Thanks, Coyote. ;) When we left off, things were hopeless...

...basically, I was determined not to waste Coyote's time on me...I wanted him to be able to find someone else, who would be able to really be there for him...it really broke my heart, but I felt like I had to do it, I guess. I really don't know why. I'm still not sure if it was the best thing to do. Anyway, I kept going...I became a drag racer, and lots of other cool things....

...and the whole time, in the back of my mind, one thing kept nagging at me. Coyote.

So eventually, last summer...I started thinking about coming back here. Above all, I didn't want to cause Coyote any more heartache than I already had by leaving. So I started college and life on my own last August, and soon after that, returned to the CR under a different name...

...and it took Coyote all of 3 seconds to figure it out. I was really...well, surprised, yeah...but also glad. And glad that he didn't hate my guts after what I did. It felt so good to just write him again...I realized how much I'd missed that...and him. So things started all over again...a bit shaky at first, yeah...I was nervous as heck...I know I was afraid of hurtin' him, and I wanted to still be friends...we e-mailed, posted in here, talked on IM...and then came the moment of truth...get this...Election Night. Indecision 2000. We stayed up practically all night chattin' with each other, watching pretty blinking states on TV...pretty soon, he confessed that he really enjoyed that night. And really liked me. *Liked* liked, if ya get my drift. But we were both so afraid of hurtin' each other, so we moved slowly but surely onward...and eventually I confessed that I loved him a lot too...even though I had the entire time, and was too chicken to admit it. ;)

So we've been letting things progress as they come, and enjoying every second together. I know I do, at least. I can't imagine my life without his friendship...it's really wonderful, and like nothing I've ever experienced. :)

So the story's still a work in progress. :) The next chapter to this, I'll leave for Coyote to write you after June...when we finally see each other, face to face, for reals. :)

To be continued...
Ravyn
Monday, May 7, 2001 12:10:04 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Josh: I meant *when* I'm driving, it feels like driving a living room sofa down the Interstate. Certainly if I'm making out in the Caddy, I sure as *hell* ain't gonna be driving. (Sorry, I'm not the type of person who'd become a cabbie just to be a rearview mirror voyeur.)

Ravyn: **high fives with her and huggles** Yes! Now we're to the point of inducing nausea! party time! **dances with her**

Relationships: Okay ... since Ravyn gave the go-ahead on telling how ours started ...
The first contact we had with each other was when she sent me a reply on my long-ago "When Clans Collide" project (which I swear to God is not dead, folks!!!) and sent me information on her CR persona and an additional character (Alex Wonder). I later got to know her better in this very CR. *Much* better. When she got abandoned by her boyfriend, I thought I'd try something to cheer her up, so I sent her a fic I'd written for AvMists so she could beta-read it. And we started passing e-mails from there ... eventually around Valentine's Day we kinda found our way into an online relationship. Which lasted all of ... oh, I'd estimate two weeks before an unfortunate setback occurred and Ravyn lost her internet access indefinitely. We found a way, though ... e-mails and one *very* memorable care package from G99, including a particular audio tape.
I tried sending more e-mails ... sent one a week to her, as I recall, up until I started getting them bounced from Hotmail. As it turned out, her account had filled up and been erased ... and about November of that same year I received a message from her telling me to move on ... and not to write anymore.

Seems hopeless, no? That's what I thought for a while. But I'll let Ravyn continue the story. **motions to Ravyn** All yours, sweetie. ;)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, May 7, 2001 11:43:31 AM
IP: 64.243.214.106

::Struts in happily and (amazingly) awake::

Ah, the first full night's (day's?) sleep in a month. I wish I had discovered Nytol earlier. Well, to be honest, I knew about it a long time ago, I just never tried it until today. Nine hours' sleep, no funky waking up never to get back to sleep. I love it.

Imzadi>> Fair enough. I declare us both the winner. :P

Okay guys: Others have done it enough, now its my turn:
One of my buddies on the deep-nights shift just came up to me and told me his wife left him over the weekend. Turns out she doesn't like the fact that he works nights. Rather than telling him this before hand and giving him a chance to move back to days, she dropped this on him quite suddenly. I'd love to give advice to him, and I know what I would tell him according to my morals, but I don't have any practicle experiance in this sort of thing. Advice anybody? Or should I just ignore it and let it play out?

Later All.
Azrael - [azrael_2099@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX
Monday, May 7, 2001 10:42:41 AM
IP: 63.170.182.2

Josh> <if you recognized me would you tap me the shoulder and say hi or run away screaming?> absolutely not! I'm more than likely to give you hug, though. ;) (I'm a hugger type person) Speak now of any objections. hehe

Jannie
Monday, May 7, 2001 10:24:45 AM
IP: modem21-247.mo-net.com

::struts into the CR, a huge grin splitting his face from ear to ear::

BUWAHAHAHA! I just finished my last Physics 7-series class EVER! No more useless physics classes that aren't prereqs for ANYTHING! No more 3 hour labs. No more professors that teach one thing and test another. Joy!

AND I just discovered that I barely have to show up for my philosophy final to pass the class! Oh, the joys of taking upper division humanities classes pass/fail. I love looking around and seeing everyone stressed about their grade, then getting up early and handing in a half-finished final. I'm so sadistic.

I was thinking of wearing a shirt at Gathering that has only the word "Imzadi" on it. Anyone have any objections? A better question might be: if you recognized me would you tap me the shoulder and say hi or run away screaming?

Hyperion: <<if I meet one more girl>>: It sucks, doesn't it? Fortunately, I no longer think about girls "i'd kill to date" because I really don't want to be dating. I just say "girl I'd kill to sleep with on a regular basis" 8-) <<nice work>>: Thanks. Though the credit does not go to me. I'm just the technical end. The artwork is done by great people like Dreamie, Christie Smith Hayden, and Lynati (and a few others, of course). I just clean up the images and convert them into icons using Photoshop 6 and Iconbuilder Pro by Craig Hockenberry. I'm familiar with Bryce, Poser, and Lightwave, but I don't use them, mostly because I really don't have the time or energy to learn and I'm not an artist. Do you do computer artwork? If you do, I'd love to see you do some canon, tgs, or CR characters. You could be immortalized in icons forever 8-)

Timedancer: Ooh! I love Allaine's ideas about Persian and Antarctic clans. I think we should see more of Brooklyn interacting with clans all over the world.

TGS: I read the new episode immediately when it comes out. Usually its sunday night (and I'm up late reading) or Monday morning. Then I have all week to intelligently discuss it.

People who met in gaming/D&D groups: Hail o' nerd masters, virgin slide rulers I sacrfice unto you. 8-)

Greg B: <<we don't plan on season 4 being the last>>: Happy happy, joy joy!

Ravyn: <<is it weird if you have a theme song>>: Depends on the song. Is it Nine Inch Nails' "Closer"? 8-) <<he used to hit on me a lot>>: When the CR admins said "please deposit your sanity" when you joined, I don't think they meant "drop acid". <<I'm off to pretend like I'm studying for finals>>: I'm one up. I'm going to pretend to TAKE my finals 8-)

Wilek: <<Humanity is doomed>>: What else is new? <<lawsuit>>: Amazing. You'd think if first-person shooters made everyone violent, the sheer number of variations on the game would make everyone a killer! <<Col. Spigot voice>>: From Zembria? <<iSmell>>: I'll take your word on it. <<many a snicker and a thousand prank calls>>: I'm looking forward to seeing its application in future Myst games. It'd be so nice not to just walk around those beautiful worlds, but smell them too. Except for that big dinosaur thing over there...I bet he leaves sh*ts the size of a dog. <<makes like a fetus and heads out>>: LOL!

SJ: <<These people have been smoking too much crack>>: No way! That's my line! <<They should rename these Penis Extensions>>: I thought that the "penis extension" thing was for sports cars (Ferrari's, etc). I really don't think it makes sense to even apply it to SUV's, a vehicle whose power has a purpose besides impressing people (cuz really, who's impressed by an SUV?).

Funny story about "penis extensions (cars)". A bunch of us are waiting outside a theater in Santa Monica around midnight waiting for Rocky Horror Picture Show. A mid-forties guy in a bright yellow Ferrari with a blonde bombshell bimbo of a girlfriend drives by REALLY slowly, either to "check out the freaks" or just have all of us look at him. As he slowed down, I turned and yelled "you have a tiny penis!" And he slammed the accelerator and sped off, hoping his ditz didn't hear me. The audience was laughing hysterically. That was my one funny moment of 1999 (I'm only allowed one each year, but I had 3 in 2000 because of a Y2K glitch).

<<comparing apples to oranges>>: Am I the only one that thinks "apples to oranges" makes no sense when suggesting things are difficult to compare? How hard could it be? Watch, I'll do it right now: Both are sweet-tasting fruits that grow on trees. They both have seeds that you shouldn't eat. Apples come in a variety of colors, generally aren't as messy to eat, you can eat the skin, make apple juice, and leave a bizzare mushy aftertaste. Oranges, by CONTRAST, only come in orange, drip all over the place, have skin that's only good for compost heaps, make orange juice, and have a tangy flavor. See? Not so hard! If you want a challenge, try comparing Hume's and Kant's ideas on how desires motivate actions.

Mounting is used for three things: climbing on a horse, linking in a hard disk unit in data systems, and, well, sex.
-Christa Keil

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, May 7, 2001 09:33:37 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Scars... hmmm.. I have one that runs from the base of my throat all the way down to my left ankle. There are breaks in the line of about 3" between each long line of scar. (6 total scar lines) All from surgeries... C-sections (2) and when they cracked me open like a lobster. The scars down my left leg are from where they took 4 veins out to do the bypass with.
I also have a scar on my left thumb from chihuahua teeth... sharp little boogers.. I accidently got my hand caught in the middle of a chihuahua-pug dog fight... ripped it almost to the bone. *checks* I also have tiny scars on my arms from where students have clawed me.... oh! and one scar down my forehead from when I pulled something off of a counter and it fell on me. I was a toddler at the time, so I don't remember what it was.
geesh, I think I'll change my scouting nickname from Mamafox to Scarfox! ;)

Coyote> *L* I laughed so hard when I read when you described your caddy seat as going down the highway in a couch! Being from a family of caddy and Lincoln owners, you hit the nail on the head! LOL

Comparing animals to humans in being put to sleep/death is like comparing apples to oranges.

My prayers are with Beedo and her family.
Jannie
Monday, May 7, 2001 08:45:51 AM
IP: modem21-247.mo-net.com

Forgive me, as any true WWF fan knows, I must have been channeling Chris Jericho there, for I called Kurt ANGLE, "Kurt Angel".

How I could ever insult a true Olympic hero like that, I will never know.
Sevarius Jr.
Monday, May 7, 2001 08:34:08 AM
IP: 66-44-58-215.s215.tnt3.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

What an unbelievable weekend--the Mummy Returns made more at the box office this weekend than Star Wars did a couple years back. It did ungodly business, something like 70.1 million bucks. And of course, you know who I will give the credit too.

THE ROCK!!!

Okay, he was only in the film for like, 10 minutes, but don't discount the wrestling fans. Having the Rock in that film probably put a few million more dollars into the total profits.

Now if they will only sign Kurt Angel to a three picture deal. He'll bring intelligence, integrity, and intensity to every role he takes, it's true, it's true!

Scars: I'm afraid to say that I don't have any really interesting ones. Just the standard little scars from a vigorous childhood.
Now if we're talking emotional and psychological scars, I've got a few gaping wounds to show you.

How We Met: My logger girlfriend from Niagra Falls, Ontario, Canada? Well, it's really an interesting story. See, she was raised by wild badgers in the tundra, and I met her while vacationing away from my home in Pinellas Park, Florida. I was traveling with Mother and our loyal handyman, Bobo, and.....well, this is more of a private story....
And as far as I know, only Mara probably understands or appreciates of word of this...

Wilek: I heard about that lawsuit. Frankly, if the courts let this one go through, it'd be a travesty. These people have been smoking too much crack.
Folks, don't take my word for it--take the word of EXPERTS. Guys like John Douglas, who was a profiler for the FBI and who helped build the FBI's Behavioral Science unit (think Clarice Starling and Silence of the Lambs), have written about school violence and the media. In Douglas' book, "Anatomy of Motive", he acknowledges that movies and video games, etc., DO NOT make kids kill people. They may have some effect upon kids who were already screwed up in the head, but they do not influence people in the sense that it will cause you to go out and shoot someone's head off. This lawsuit, and others like it, are pure insanity.

SUVs: They should rename these Penis Extensions. The bigger your vehicle, the smaller your pecker is.

TGS: I read it, occasionally. When it actually comes out that is. Which seems to be with even less frequency than is normal.

Kirshanta: See, I suppose that's where we differ on the issue of Euthanasia. I do not believe that there is ever any dignity or honor with death. Death is just death. It's an ending. You many not want to go out in a particular way (say, gunshot to the head), but I don't apply notions such as honor or dignity to death.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Monday, May 7, 2001 08:30:47 AM
IP: 66-44-58-215.s215.tnt3.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Spike>WHAT????? My friend Beedoo! has a brain tumor???? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate cancer!!!! It killed my two favorite grandparents when I was 13!!!!!!!! :( :( :( :( :( :(

*goes to a corner and curls into a fetal position and rocks and whimpers*
Beth
Monday, May 7, 2001 07:13:00 AM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Humanity is doomed. Heard about this lawsuit? Three guesses who's trying to financially destroy the entire gaming industry. Yup--Linda Sanders, the widow of a teacher who fell victim to the ghastliness that occurred at a little red schoolhouse called Columbine. <Col. Spigot voice> Perhaps you've heard of it? More info and a nice...commentary...on the lawsuit can be found at http://www.gameboydojo.com/features/index.cgi?id=150 ; you're welcome.

Brought to you by the "Monty Python's Consumer Electronics" Department> In lighter news, click my name. This is not, despite appearances, a trophy from a Cybertronian shark, but a prototype of a neat little device called iSmell. It's essentially smell-o-vision for computers; if I remember the Popular Science article correctly, it can weave together a wide variety of scents from several basic ingredients, in much the same way as a CRT can project any color using only the three primaries. This will be *grand* fun when I'm surrounded by moldering demon corpses near a toxic waste pit in Doom with a cloud of cordite in the air from fifty rocket launches, or face to face with a zombie in the middle of an abbatoir in Silent Hill. And the name iSmell will, I'm sure, be the genesis of many a snicker and a thousand prank calls.

Later, kiddies. <makes like a fetus and heads out>
Wilek
Monday, May 7, 2001 05:54:40 AM
IP: anon-proxy7.free.anonymizer.com

Okay, all...is it weird if you have a theme song at work that your co-workers gave you? Just curious...;)

Relationships> Well, I'll leave the details to Coyote, if he wants to share them. Don't know if he does. ;) Other than that, I had a deep friendship with a guy who was one of the Lost Boys in the movie "Hook," a relationship with a football player in high school (we met in our sophomore history class, and I felt sorry for him when his girlfriend at the time broke up with him and so started talking to him, and we went from there), and a one-time, very fun fling with a guy at a racetrack last year (long story, but we started talking up at Firebird Raceway in Phoenix during the Friday races, and got very close on the car ride back home that night...) ;)

Scars> Well, okay, the first time I saw an episode of the Powerpuff Girls...oh, not emotional scars. Okay. ;) Seriously...I have one on my forehead, right under my hairline, where I fell off a jungle gym and knocked myself in the head in kindergarten, another on my right knee, when my knee went skidding through some gravel in fourth grade, a nice long one (that's actually somewhat fading now) on my right forearm from a run-in with a mesquite tree needle, a spot on my left calf from a brown recluse spider bite, and a faint curvy one on my right wrist, from a game of basketball in middle school. I was boxing out a girl on the other team, and she grabbed my wrist to get me out of the way, but she had loooooong fingernails that went right into my wrist. That was sort of gross to me. ;)

Kit> Congrats to Keith and Stephanie! :) Enjoy your trip. :)

Doug> Have a good trip also! :) <<addiction to fear highs>> Hey, I think I have an addiction to adrenaline rushes, after my first year of racing...;)

Imzadi> <<An engineer would say that the second person is redundant but still useful as a backup>> Hm...good point. :) <<So I repeat my question: how does a cat post?>> Um...well, I don't know...but he used to hit on me a lot. ;) <<hmmm...sorry, I meant the UA mascot...the wildcats one 8-) Forgive me, but sports are NOT my thing>> Hey, you're forgiven. ;) <<Excuse me. ::sticks finger down throat::>> Woo hoo! **hi-fives Coyote** We're *past* overly saccharine!!! :)

Coyote> **huggles tight** :)

Josh again> Oh, and Coyote didn't *really* try to chop his finger off...it was a very unfortunate accident during a test. :(

Coyote again> Sorry to answer that one for ya, Coyote sweetheart...let me know if I'm goin' too far. ;)

Okay, I'm off to pretend like I'm studying for finals. Have fun, everyone! ;)
Ravyn
Monday, May 7, 2001 05:50:50 AM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Well, all I am at liberty to say is that we don't plan on season 4 being the last season of "Timedancer".
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Monday, May 7, 2001 05:37:30 AM
IP: dialin-681-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Greg >> Well actually, I read somewhere - I can't remember where (Ed where are you when I need you?) - that each season represented 10 years of timedances - so technically, if Brook was gone 40 years, then this being the 4th season, it should be the last.

However, is your answer a hint that perhaps this is NOT the last season...
Kirshanta
Monday, May 7, 2001 05:24:48 AM
IP: g68-40.citenet.net

Scars > my most interesting one is probably the one that rings halfway around the base of my throat with the tracheotomy oval scar just below it. Kinda like a weird built-in necklace. That was from the "thyroidectomy and neck dissection" I had eleven years ago to remove the cancer.

How We Met > the abridged and less-sordid version is that Tim and I were both members of the same college gamer club, and his dad was one of my psych professors. Let's just leave my ex-husband / Tim's ex-friend, out of it for the nonce, shall we? ; )

Book News > I was indeed able to finish up the recording of Black Roses this weekend! Not only that, but we included the prologue from Gifted Children, the _next_ Trinity Bay book, because Mickee wants (sight unseen no less) to put that one on the docket for next year!

Christine - [<------ New issue of Sabledrake posted!!!]
Monday, May 7, 2001 05:22:50 AM
IP: 16-169.075.popsite.net

Sorry I haven't been on in a while, but Im kind of surrounded by fellow workers right now, so it's hard. That would also explain why this message will be sorta sparse.

Timedancer: Well, I'd say more Demona, but since we all know that's always at the top of my list, it would be pretty unnecessary. I'm in the group that prefers fewer historical figures to more; uncomfortable with attributing emotions or actions to real people who are now dead and cannot defend themselves. And as you could guess from my images, I like more Harthoth, Isfet, Meryt, and Egypt. Absolutely more Angela and Gwen stuff, and as for history, I'd like more on the Civil War, the Boxer Rebellion/Opium Wars, the Alamo, Vietnam, Victorian England, and Peron-era Argentina. Also would love more info on the Persian and Antarctican clans.

TGS> I read all three seasons over the course of a week back in March. Eagerly awaiting more (whenever that might be).

Buffy last week> As you can imagine, still very distraught over what happened to Tara. Angst to the fourth power. *becomes very blue*

Atilla> I can't say I knew him, but that doesnt mean I can't offer condolences for his passing.

Um, that's all for now. Hello to everyone, hope everyone is getting psyched for your stays at the Gathering, big thank you to M. Destine for alerting me to her excellent new story, still ticked off that Cartoon Network is no longer showing Sailor Moon, and everyone take care :)

Sincerely, Allaine

P.S. More Pandora! And more Demona! (sorry)
Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, PA
Monday, May 7, 2001 05:15:13 AM
IP: 64.80.115.200

DOnt' you just hate it when life decides to belt you upside the head *again*?!?!
I swear if I meet one more girl I'd kill to date in the fashion of "this is [X], she's [Y]'s girlfriend, I'm going to find a shotgun and permanently empty the local 7-11...
<snarl>

Imzadi> Nice work. WHat kind of programs do you use? I go a bit of graphical desiging using Photoshop, Bryce, Poser and Liightwave. Ever use those?

Yeah, the was brief, but you'll have this sometimes.

Hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Monday, May 7, 2001 05:04:07 AM
IP: ba-183.adsl.stargate.net

I hereby declare Programming Profs/Head TA's to be bastards. What kind of a sadist adds requirements to a project the day before its due? A bunch of "oh yeah, don't forget x, y, and z" were posted yesterday, Sunday. The lab is due at 9AM monday morning. LABS ARE CLOSED ON SUNDAY NIGHT! So I had to drag my ass outta bed at 8AM when I didn't have to be up until 1 otherwise...bastards.

In other news, only one class today at 2PM!

In other other news, I got a B+ on my philosophy paper that I handed a day late. I kinda cheated, cuz I handed in a paper on the due date and then handed a complete revision the next day, claiming that I'd handed in the wrong draft (and they believed me, thus removing the late penalty). God, I'm such a scumbag. I love it!

Icon project: I have NO artwork to play with. If you want in, lemme know! Send me something! I'm an engineer, not an artist! 8-) I'm looking for a whole host of canon and TGS characters. If you have ANY interest in doing artwork, lemme know!

Patrick: <<Jeep Cherokee>>: ::high fives other jeep owner!:: <<Paypal>>: Thanks. That clears it up for me.

Azrael: Okay, I don't really feel like debating this any more. Its degenerated into a semantics argument. Yawn.

Kirshanta: <<the ones where people go from arguing a point to insulting each other>>: Oh yeah?! Well, uh...your mother smells! ;-) hehe <<We're all friends in here>>: Okay, that was a slight exaggeration, especially in certain cases. But I think for the most part we get along. <<you live on gargoyle time!>>: Ditto. <<Meryt has been overused. Enough already>>: Amen. <<perhaps you can't speak of Apep and Harthot without speaking of Meryt>>: Sure you can. I'm sure Meryt has spend SOME of the last 4000 (6000? I can't remember) years travelling around. She needn't always be in Egypt. <<Or Alex's wedding>>: THAT I want to see!

Greg B: <<why is everyone assuming that this is the final season>>: I could have sworn that someone mentioned that each season of TD is 10 years of dancing, and since Brooklyn was gone for 40 years (to him, anyway), it would logically follow that the fourth season is the last.

DPH: <<the real purpose of games is to teach us to think ahead>>: Depends on the game. I don't necessarily think that's true. Some games teach us to think on our feet, others teach us to work as a team. Just because a game involves strategy (football) doesn't mean we're learning to think ahead. <<What is the point of the Olympics?>>: So germany can show off its latest generation of mustached women ;-)

Revel: You're an icon. Click on my name, then on "other.jpg" to see it.

Lain: You out there!? Earth to Lain...

Alright, that's all folks. Off to my last physics class EVER!

...and scantily clad females, of course. Who cares if it's below zero outside?
- Linus Torvalds

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, May 7, 2001 04:49:10 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

****Kyryn steps into the room.****

Gunjack> <<Niiiiiiice! How big is this Saturn? >> In reality, the Saturn SL1, which I have, will actually fit in a compact car space (although you could fit a Browning .50-cal, minus the tripod into the car). Check the link below for specs on the SL1. In the game, I upgraded it to an L-series Saturn (the mid size) and I know my character had hopped up the engine and suspension and added some lightweight armor-plating.

Brooklyn meeting famous characters>> Well, in "Brothers in Arms" he and Sata were at the battle of Fort McHenry during the war of 1812, although they didn't get to meet Francis Scott Key.

Later, All!

****Kyryn dives out the window.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Monday, May 7, 2001 03:24:08 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

DPH>> There are several things to do to make your garden unfriendly to rabbit. One is to leave human hair cuttings around. Another is to make a pepper spray and spray down the leaves of your plants weekly or after every rain. A good recipe is this: Use one-half ounce Tabasco sauce, one pint water, one-half teaspoon dishwashing liquid, and one teaspoon chili powder. Mix together and pour into a plastic squirt bottle. You can vary it by adding garlic or cayenne pepper to the mix. I spray it on my tomatoes to keep the raccoons and possums from eating them!
Spike
Monday, May 7, 2001 02:06:22 AM
IP: adsl-64-216-237-58.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

Damn rabbits. I want my bell peppers, permento (sp?) peppers, and my hot peppers. Put a fence around it or putting it in a green house is out of the question. On the other hand, rabbit season might have to open earlier.

I hope that if I develop Alzeihmeir's {sp?) disease and no cure is in sight, somebody has the sense enough to kill me in my sleep. Sorry about saying this, but in my view, Alzeihmer's (sp?) disease is a bigger threat than AIDS. One reason: an aging population. AIDS patients can take their medicine and continue living; Alzeihmer's (sp?) can't.

Profound thought of the day: the real purpose of games is to teach us to think ahead.

What is the point of the Olympics?
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Monday, May 7, 2001 01:17:03 AM
IP: max1-26.cwy.cei.net

Nice comments on "Timedancer". We have most of the season planned out already.

One question though, why is everyone assuming that this is the final season of "Timedancer"?
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Sunday, May 6, 2001 11:22:38 PM
IP: dialin-681-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

*** Kirshanta lands and folds her wings, her shoulders still shaking in silent laughter over Shinigami's condescending tone **

Shinigami >> First, please let me assure you that I enjoy a good debate as much as the nest garg, more so even. Some of the guys in here will attest to the feathers I ruffled trying to debate a certain point. And yes yes YES - life would be utterly boring and dull if everyone thought the same thing.

What I object to is the personal debates - the ones where people go from arguing a point to insulting each other. A wonderful debate is an amazing thing - good for the soul and spirit and it permits you to exchange ideas in a non-violent form. However, when these debates fall into the personal attacks arena, they are no longer fun and useful. All they do is bring people to the boiling point and beyond - sometimes making them say things in the argument's context that they do not even feel in real life.

Yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion and yes everyone is entitled to defend that opinion - My objection comes from the personal attacks that seem to spring up everytime we have a debate. Whether we be Clan or clans (and please note that I did say clans), the personal attacks are objectionable.

But then, that's just my opinion.

Josh >> We're all friends in here. Well that's sometimes debatable, as so much else is I suppose.

Gunjack >> Don't worry - I wans't thinking of everyone when I made my comment - I was thinking of certain particular instances. I know many of us are still loyal (3 am is certainly amazing enough - you live on gargoyle time!).

Greg > New Timedancer stories - Well, I think I agree with Josh on this one - Meryt has been overused. Enough already. Although perhaps you can't speak of Apep and Harthot without speaking of Meryt...

I also agree with Taleweaver - more Angela and Gwen, more of the mature Brooklyn. Since this is the Timedancer's last season, it woudld be good to see how everything ends - does Demona actually drink the potion? What happens with Sata and the twins and how did they get so old so quickly (are they not adolescents when they return to Manhattan). And of course a Nudnik story is in order. How about more of the clan stories. Since they happen so far in the future that TGS may not get to them before we are all old and grey, how about some stories about the deaths of clanmembers. Or Alex's wedding. Or if Xanatos does actually travel to Avalon to seek the ultimate immortality. What about traveling to the past and seeing part of the first Unseelie war with Oberon. New Olympus sounds good too. Or how about - this is a really classic one - having Brooklyn travel to the Wyvern massacre and putting him in a position to stop it. Knowing all that he knows - would he do it?
Please, no Hitler or Gangis Khan or anything like being part of all the major events - Forrest Gump style. Although Brook being indirectly responsible for the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald might be intesresting. I mean what is one more theory in the JFK saga...

EUTHANASIA - Here is one that I permit myself to speak passionately about. I have worked in the surgery dept. of an emergency vet hospital for 3 years. Granted, vet medicine and human medicine are different, but that's the point. I have seen things that would turn your blood cold - a dog choking on its own blood and suffering a long and bloody death in front of his 4 year old master because the mother was too stubborn to accept euthanasia. That kid will be traumatised for life.
I have seen a dog with a cancerous tumor so huge it was eating away at its brain - and the master refusing to give him a dignified death while he was under, but insisting that we wake him so that he could could spend his last horrifyingly painful days at home one last time before he died.
A cat with a liver infection so huge that when you opened him up, his whole insides were liquified, and the owner refusing euthanasia because he wanted his cat to die at home "in peace". And in pain.

Euthanasia is advocated and preached in every circle and condemed when it is practiced on a human being. Yet the option is open to animals and many choose not to take advantage of it. It is the hight of love than to give your animal a peaceful, honorable death. It is an option open to you and yet people do not choose it, out of selfishness for their own need and without thinking of the consequences on their animal. What makes us think that people would be less selfish when it comes to a fellow human being. And yet - it is a humane and dignified way to go, if you so wish it. But if it is legalised, then a whole other bag of beans is opened. So what is the solution? The euthanasia option if requested and with sufficient medical reason to back it up is, in my opinion, an acceptable alternative. But hey, this is a debate...
Kirshanta
Sunday, May 6, 2001 11:13:03 PM
IP: g68-40.citenet.net

Just passing these news along.... If you've ever hung around Station 8 or if you've ever read the web comic "Dakota's Ridge," chances are you've run across a chatter called Beedoo! If you went to G99 in Dallas, chances are that you may have met her. The chatroom is a little quieter this week because over the weekend, Beedoo! was hospitalized with a brain tumor. (For more details, click the link.) The surgery went well but Beedoo! could use all the positive healing energy and prayers that the fandom can send her way.

Thanks....
Spike
Sunday, May 6, 2001 09:49:43 PM
IP: adsl-64-216-236-130.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

Paypal > Actually, I've been using it myself alot lately. Auctions. Auctions are bad. BAD! BAD! But they're so durn fun too. Anyway, the trick to using PayPal is to make sure to click the correct tab on the menu so that you end up on the one that says "Send Money". From there it's pretty much all about following directions. My basic understanding is that anybody with a credit card (assuming the card limit is higher than $250.00) gets that much money to play with per month unless they link a bank account to PayPal. After that, you just supply them with the amount you want to send and who you want to send it to. They take it from there. Setting up a basic PayPal account is easy. You give them a user name and password. An Email address and (in the case of Ebay) a shipping address. Nothing to it, really.

My biggest hangup with PayPal is that on most people's auction page they don't seem to link to sign in center, they go to the "create an account" page, which I've already done. But that's a minor gripe in the grand scheme of things.

With the "Buy It Now" set up we have for most of our goodies you shouldn't even have that problem. Just fill in the information as it's requested.

So give PayPal another shot, honest, you *can* do this. ;)
kathy - [kapogge@excite.com]
Sunday, May 6, 2001 09:29:28 PM
IP: rr-56-12-110.atl.mediaone.net

*****************DEBATE STUFF*******************
Imzadi-- <<That happens to be true whether or not you can do things that are more right than other people.>> Incorrect. From personal experience you can teach those who are wrong that they are wrong. Perhaps I should have said �most evil� and instead should have used �least evil.� <<Proven by prison rehabilitation programs, which fail more often than they succeed.>> True, but only because the rehab programs are messed up. Prison rehab should not be part of the Corrections Department, and should probably be done by volunteer, non-profit organizations, such as churches. There is a church ministry out of Huntsville that has had an amazing number of conversions. <<There will always be bad eggs. The trick is how we deal with them that makes the world a better place.>> But how do you tell the bad eggs from the good ones? Again, no Moral Objective means no �moral high-ground� and therefore the �bad egg� is just whichever one doesn�t win. <<Sure you can. You just have to accept that not everyone will agree with you.>> Of course not everyone will agree with me, that�s a given. But if I don�t have Morals on my side, I have no right to judge anyone. If I can�t judge, then I can�t condemn. <<But apparently, the EVIL people CAN'T have their own definitions of what is evil>> Sure they can. The point is not whether or not we have differing opinions, this discussion proves that ;-) Just that there IS right and a wrong, and we have to know how to discern between the two.<<Were you talking about the DUI, the rapist, or the IRS agent?>> Yes. To be serious, if there is no Moral Objective, and I can therefore do anything that is �right� to me, then nothing I ever do can be wrong. <<So it would appear>> At least you�re honest about it. I personally don�t feel that way, but, to each his own� <<Death penalty for people who send those too! ;-)>> A-Men!!
*****************End Debate Stuff**********************

Good night, all. It's time for me to go home and to bed. I love this shift...
Azrael - [azrael_2099@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX
Sunday, May 6, 2001 07:02:49 PM
IP: 63.170.182.2

Backseat driving > If I fold down the rear seat in my Jeep Cherokee, there's nearly enough room for a mattress. So� who was saying the other day that SUVs are bad? >:)

Wabbit season > Rabbits usually go after the plants themselves (stems and leaves) before they can even begin producing fruit. Your best defense would be to put up a chicken wire fence around your garden. You can typically get rolls three feet wide, and for the best protection you'll want to dig a trench and bury the bottom six inches below the ground line, to keep them from digging under. Other things they sell that can help to some extent are plastic decoy owls and snakes� but only if you move them around often to keep your unwanted visitors from figuring out the ruse. And there's also chemicals that you can put down to keep nuisance animals away.

Lexy > Thanks for the announcement. Yes, it'd be terrific if every Gargoyles fan would support the Gathering. Supporting memberships don't just help this year's convention, they help assure that there'll be start-up funds for future conventions, as well. And the Gathering is not the only good cause that supporting memberships help out. $5 of every supporting membership is going directly to Make-a-Wish. Plus, every supporting member is being entered in a random drawing for a Gathering 2001 t-shirt.

How Paypal works > Paypal will bills the credit card at the time you send the money. If you have a zero balance, and no bank account linked, that will be the only payment option available. Only if you link a paypal account to a bank account can you deposit funds into your Paypal account (or transfer money out if you've received a payment from someone, say, for an eBay auction).

Why Paypal? > Accepting credit cards directly is not something The Gathering had the resources to do this year. It involves buying equipment, getting a servicing contract with a bank to process payments, setting up secure server interfaces for online shopping, etc. But since we knew there would be a lot of people who would want to use a credit card, we decided to go with Paypal. Yes, it's not as convenient if you don't already have a PayPal account (which a lot of people do, since it's also become really popular way to pay on eBay and other online auction sites. But leaving all the messy details up to them saves us time and money we can better devote to the convention. And considering this is the first year in its history The Gathering has even been able to accept credit card payments in any form� I think we're doing fine.

We're just as happy to take a registration online and then have a check or money order sent by mail, too. But whether you're registering online or mailing your registration or payment, the deadline for having things postmarked or timestamped is May 15, 2001.

Which reminds me� there's only 9 days of pre-registration left.
http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/

Patrick Toman - [gathering2001@art-chicks.com]
Sunday, May 6, 2001 06:51:30 PM
IP: ac8b01cf.ipt.aol.com

Fanfic library is down again. ::taps vein frantically:: NEED MY FIX! (get it? yuk, yuk)

Ravyn: <>: As much as I love the idea of Paypal, I don't think I have that patience either. Check it is. <<That is SUCH a great engineering philosophy>>: Not really. An engineer would say that the second person is redundant but still useful as a backup in case the first dies of a heart attack or brain aneurism. ;-) <<like any other cat would?>>: Um, cats can't type. So I repeat my question: how does a cat post? <<Sparky the Sun Devil>>: hmmm...sorry, I meant the UA mascot...the wildcats one 8-) Forgive me, but sports are NOT my thing. <<Gotta keep my ego inflated somehow>>: Being an engineer REALLY oughta be enough.

Coyote and Ravyn: <<huggles>>: Excuse me. ::sticks finger down throat:: Normally, I'd use Sevarius' "if it gets any more saccharine in here I'm going to stick a finger down my throat", but we're past that.

Gathering staff: I want to pay by check, what's the deadline for registration/time stamp on check/etc? In other words, how much earlier should I register to make sure that I get the discount if I'm paying by check?

Paypal: Okay, I think I've figured some of this out (and I'm pretty net-savvy, so that should say something about the complexity of paypal). I set up my account and linked it to a credit card (which, I might add, bills to my dad ;-)). The account balance, according to them, is $0.00, but I can charge up to $250 (assuming my limit is that high, which it is). Do I need to tell paypal to charge my credit card (say, $200) so that there will be money in my account that I can send to people (like the Gathering committee)? Or will paypal just automatically charge my credit card every time I want to send money to someone if my current paypal account balance is $0.00?

Coyote: <<Whoever said I'd be *driving* during the whole affair?>>: You did. Quote: feel like you're driving down the interstate on your living room sofa. SO THERE! ;-). <<Though I haven't had a chance to try it yet>>: ... <<So I can have some fun>>: I don't doubt it. Where there's a will, there's a way. <<tried to chop it off with the engine fan>>: Tried? As in, on purpose? Whatever for? <<

Lexy: <<If I can make a wakko of myself at collage you can to!>>: Can you do it without quite so many spelling errors? ;-)

Azrael: <<exciting night of Tech Support>>: You work tech support too? Cool. <<then I can never convince even the most evil of people that they are wrong>>: That happens to be true whether or not you can do things that are more right than other people. <>: Proven by prison rehabilitation programs, which fail more often than they succeed. <>: There will always be bad eggs. The trick is how we deal with them that makes the world a better place. <>: Sure you can. You just have to accept that not everyone will agree with you. <<we have to have our own definitions of what is evil>>: But apparently, the EVIL people CAN'T have their own definitions of what is evil, according to you. So how do I know if I'm evil or not? <<How can we kill someone who didn�t do anything wrong?>>: Were you talking about the DUI, the rapist, or the IRS agent? <<so to be safe, I�d probably better kill you first>>: So it would appear...why do you think I want the death penalty for drunk drivers? <<�warm-fuzzy� spam-mails>>: Death penalty for people who send those too! ;-)

Scars and Starting relationships: Don't know much about either. They just sorta...happen...

Kit: <<men have their charms too>>: ::thinks:: ::thinks some more:: No idea what you're talking about. <<making love under a tarp in the back of a pickup truck>>: That sounds extremely uncomfortable. <<playing in the same D&D group together>>: hehe. geeks. ;-) I miss D&D.

Gside: <<courier new is a wonderful font>>: Boo Yaka. <<principles of EE>>: Principle #1: Smell bad. Principle #2: Caffeine is your friend. Principle #3: The pointy end of the soldering iron should be directed away from you. Did I forget any?

I suspect all fortran programs look like 'firsts'
- Olaf Kirch

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, May 6, 2001 02:40:06 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

This is just to say that I probably won't get to comment until tuesday evening. I have three more pages worth of second language acquisition paper to write (courier new is a wonderful font, especailly when point size and margins are predetermined), and probably my only really bad exam (principles of EE) in the afternoon.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, May 6, 2001 02:17:02 PM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

<waves to everyone, then takes Kit's arm> Uh, we gotta talk about your addiction to fear highs, Lis. <takes her out of the room>
Doug
Sunday, May 6, 2001 12:38:32 PM
IP: pool-63.52.169.116.dlls.grid.net

Imzadi: I agree with you on women vs. men, we are better looking and softer. But men have their charms too. <nothing sexier than making out in a small car's backseat> What about making love under a tarp in the back of a pickup truck during a major thunderstorm? Doug and I did that last night and it was SO HOT!!! <grins> I like room to maneuver too, it opens up opportunities for a fun chase before consumation. :) Congrats on the great weekend in Santa Cruz.

Lexy: Thanks for the reminder. Doug and I will get our non-attending membership forms filled out ASAP.

Robby: Good luck on that math final. <scars> Laurell K. Hamilton's books have a lot of great scar ideas in them. As for my scars, well, I have a few. <adopts Rene Russo LW3 pose> First, here on my right forearm is a scar from where I broke my arm falling off the jungle gym at age 4. The bone poked right through and hurt like hell for a long time even after the doctors set it back in. Second, on my left hand, I have three small scars near the knuckles thanks to a mean cat scratching my hand when I was 5. Next, behind my right ear, I have a small scar from where I got hit with a baseball at age 9. My hair usually hides that one. Next, on the bottom of my left foot, a scar from stepping on broken glass at age 12. That one really hurt. On my left temple, a bad scar from my first motorcycle accident at age 15. I also have scars from bike accidents on my right shoulder, my left hip, a few spots on my back, and my right thigh. Then on my waist, a pretty big scar from where the branch gored me skiing at age 16. I've told that story many times. My appendectomy scar is just above that one. My right breast has a scar on it a few inches above the nipple from a stab wound (I got mugged by a guy with a knife the summer before I came to UT, I knocked him out but he did get me once). Finally, there are a few scars on my back from getting moles removed, and one in my left side from the time I got shot by crazed criminal bikers attacking my house. I've told that story too. Thank goodness it was only a .38 graze. Dad got the worse hit in his knee- sabot shotgun round, it required him to get a new knee and walk with a cane for the rest of his life. No one else in the family got shot, thank goodness. :) Doug has a few scars too, but not as many. A few on his back from getting moles removed, one on his neck from a bad sprain, a cut on his upper lip from his first time shaving (I kid him about it often), a scar on his left knee from a fall while ice skating for the first and last time, three scars on his right knuckles (surprisingly similar to my left knuckle scars) from accidental knife cutting while cutting a tomato, also one on his left index finger from a similar incident. Then he has a scar on his chin from getting hit with a baseball bat there at age 8, a big mass of scar tissue on his forehead from getting knocked down on concrete at age 3, a mark on his right elbow from falling down stairs, a bald spot and scars on the back of the head thanks to a golfball hitting him there at age 14 (his worst). That's about it. We may have some inner body scars also, but we're not sure.

<How we met> I've told this story a hundred times, it always makes me smile. We had a history class together freshman college year, hadn't really noticed each other until the morning of September 19th when I spotted him on the sidewalk outside the Dance Gym reading a book under a tree; recognized him from the class, which I had slept through that morning by accident; and took the opportunity to say hi, introduce myself, and ask what I missed. In the ensuing conversation we hit it off, exchanged phone numbers, and became very fast friends. At first we were just study buddies, then he asked me on a "friendly outing," we saw some movies together, went from there to dinner and dancing, falling more and more in love all the time. One month after we met, we got involved in playing in the same D&D group together (haven't done that in a LONG time :( ) and then on the night of October 26th we had our first kiss. Three weeks later we spent our first night together in a Hilton room. The rest, as they say, is history.

Wedding bells for Keith and Stephanie rang this morning. Everyone wish them congratulations please, and hopes for a long and happy relationship. :) Doug and I enjoyed the beautiful wedding, they will hopefully enjoy Washington DC (not the place I'd choose for a honeymoon, but they wanted to go there <shrugs> ). Tomorrow Doug and I are leaving town for a week- road trip to Nashville to get his sister and bring her back to Beaumont. We'll miss you all, see you again Friday night. Later!
Kitainia
Sunday, May 6, 2001 12:35:52 PM
IP: pool-63.52.169.116.dlls.grid.net

Just a quick post

Imzadi<<So they can immediately be directed to the "Ask Greg" archives where they can continue their search, without getting any help from any of us.>> Sometimes yes, but if you look at the CR archive you'll see that we've been known to have some interesting Garg related conversations.

Later.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Sunday, May 6, 2001 12:34:46 PM
IP: ac9dc047.ipt.aol.com

Okay, Robby ...

Scars: let's see ... it's all on my left side ... one behind my left ear from surgery to repair a perforated eardrum ... a long one the length of my left forearm from a table collapsing out from under me ... and of course the one at the tip of my left index finger from when I tried to chop it off with the engine fan last November ...

Starting relationships: Hmm ... well, only a couple that I found that were memorable, and only one of those that you'd probably find useable, knowing NHS. Of course, there's the obvious one ... Ravyn and I came together over the Internet (I'll leave the details of that to her) ... but the one you could probably use is how I truly got into a relationship with XenaTrek in college: as the indirect result of a funeral.
Coyote the Bando
Sunday, May 6, 2001 11:49:50 AM
IP: 64.243.214.135

Hey all, I know I don't drop in as much as I should, but oh well... Working on lotsa actual WORK projects to keep me busy. And I'm trying to create a new character for Ninja High School, that I'm thinking might have a few scars or some such, and a love life. So I'm looking for inspiration, and naturally I turn to this place...

What I'm looking for are any stories you might have about scars you've got, where, and how you got them. (Cause like I said, I want this character to have some real meaty past to 'em, and I don't wana give 'em scars willy nilly.) At the same time, any of you couples out there, care to share how you first met and got together? I know some of you have some really romantic stuff out there...

Thanks in advance folks. If nothing else, the newbies will all learn a few things about some of us... I'll share my own experiances on these subjects when I have a wee bit more free time than I do tonight. (have a math final in the morning.)

I thinks that's about it, ya'll. Thanks again. (ANd if I steal enough facts about one persons life, I'll give 'em credit as in inspiration...)
Robby
Sunday, May 6, 2001 11:34:06 AM
IP: 64.243.214.135

Howdy, All. Time to begin yet another fun and exciting night of Tech Support. Yee Haw. I've had about 8 hrs of sleep in the past 3 days. This is gonna be a fun shift. yeah, Riiiiight...

**************Debate Stuff**************
Imzadi: << Um, how exactly did you make THAT logical leap?>> Because if nothing I ever do can be more right than what anyone else does, then I can never convince even the most evil of people that they are wrong. If I cannot convince them that they are wrong, I can�t expect them to change for the better. If I can�t expect anyone to change for the better, I can�t expect the world to change for the better. Remember, if Moral Objectivity is an impossibility, then I am no more right than anyone else about anything morally. I can�t condemn Tim McVeigh, or Ted Bundy, or even Hitler for what they did. They felt they were right, and under the idea that there is no Moral Objectivity, they would be correct. <<So instead, you're going to assume that people YOU think are evil are evil. That's a much better solution...NOT!>> Perhaps, but I think that we have to have our own definitions of what is evil. Those definitions only come into line when we all believe similar things, i.e., when there is at least SOME kind of Moral Objective. And, yes, my view of what is evil is incredibly narrow minded. That�s why I�ll never be a cop, a lawyer, or a judge, I don�t trust myself to be fair and impartial. << Um, no I didn't. Just because we should respect someone's right to life doesn't mean we can't kill them if the circumstances warrant. I think the death penalty is okay to use as punishment against someone who has deprived so many people of THEIR right to life. But then again, I think the death penalty is an acceptable punishment for Driving Under the Influence (DUI), rape, and IRS agents. So everything in perspective.>> How can we kill someone who didn�t do anything wrong? Again, I�ll point out, as Gunjack does so often, that without a Moral Objective, without anything that is ALWAYS right or wrong, Might makes right, if I can do something, it�s perfectly alright, and I don�t have to answer to you for it. Of course, you could just come kill me anyway, and that wouldn�t be wrong either, so to be safe, I�d probably better kill you first. And while this statement is absolutely absurd, it illustrates my point. If my only power comes from being physically more powerful, or more influential, then I had better do everything in my power to become more powerful. On the other hand, I do agree with your ideas about the death penalty. I don�t think we use it nearly enough. <> I thank you for your sympathy, though that wasn�t really the point. This is the kind of story that, after several years, becomes �some kid� and all that is remembered is the suffering and the inspiration he gave to all of us. Like those �warm-fuzzy� spam-mails that go out every so often (just send this to 10 people� ick.)
Azrael - [azrael_2099@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX
Sunday, May 6, 2001 11:03:09 AM
IP: 63.170.182.2

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SORRY TO BE ANNOYING BUT ANNOUNCEMENT COMING!!!!

We only have until May 15 to get any non-attending memebership forms filled out. I know it isn't nearly as good as getting those ppl there in person, but it is better then nothing!!! Just think about it. If every person on the gathering attendee list got just ONE person to fill a non-attending form out we would DOUBLE our guest list!! That is an increadible feet for something so easy to do! I have been talking to some of you, and most ppl are just like, "eh..I'm too busy for that." OR "Who cares. It isn't the same." COME ON PPL!! NO it's NOT THE SAME, but it COUNTS FOR SOMETHING!! MAKE IT YOUR GOAL AS A GARGOYLE FAN TO GET AT LEAST ONE PERSON to fill out a non-attending membership form. Download it off the 5th A. Gathering web page, and hand it to someone you know. Make sure to get a check or MO from them ASAP, and send that out to the post office like REALLY REALLY SOON!!!! JUST ONE PERSON!!! That is all I'm asking! *pleeeeeeeeds* I don't care what anyone says. I would rather have 200 non-attending members then 200 blank spots. Please! Make it your goal!!! If I can make a wakko of myself at collage you can to!! (you know..anywhere you happen to be)

Lexy - [izzolexington3@yahoo.com]
Sunday, May 6, 2001 10:52:51 AM
IP: ac923845.ipt.aol.com

Coyote> <<I *can* move the front seats all the way up to the front and it gives about three and a half feet worth of space to work with in the back, not to mention that the car is nearly six feet wide on the interior. So I can have some fun. *Lots* of it. Though I haven't had a chance to try it yet ... hmm ... :)>>

**blinks, dazed** Uhhhh....**tries to calculate how quickly she can possibly hightail it to Michigan** ;)
Ravyn
Sunday, May 6, 2001 10:52:03 AM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Beth H: Hope you're feeling better soon ... but way to go on the new guy! Hope you two're really happy. :)

Josh: Whoever said I'd be *driving* during the whole affair? While I can't flatten out the seats like you can with the Jeep, I *can* move the front seats all the way up to the front and it gives about three and a half feet worth of space to work with in the back, not to mention that the car is nearly six feet wide on the interior. So I can have some fun. *Lots* of it.
Though I haven't had a chance to try it yet ... hmm ... :)

Ravyn: **huggles back** Hey there yourself. :) And I don't mind the backseat being small. It's a convertible, so everything evens out. :)
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, May 6, 2001 10:40:46 AM
IP: 64.243.214.135

DPH> Well, if the rabbits you have attacking your garden are anything like the rabbits back home...they avoid the hot peppers and eat the other stuff anyway. So good luck. ;)

Beth H.> Aye, slow day indeed...;) Hope you get well soon.

Josh> <<Paypal>> Exactly why I paid with a check. I didn't have the patience to try to figure it out. ;) <<If two people agree on everything, one of them isn't needed>> That is SUCH a great engineering philosophy. ;) <<Kindly explain to me how exactly a CAT used to post!?>> Um...like any other cat would? <<Despite the ASU mascot, there is nothing wild about Arizona>> Grrr....I hate Sparky the Sun Devil...:( <<You flatter yourself>> Well, of course I do. Gotta keep my ego inflated somehow. ;)

Coyote> Hey there. :) **huggles** Remind me to set up a date with you and the Caddy someday. ;) And just to warn you in advance...my car has *verrrry* little backseat space. ;)

Dang it, I have a chemistry final in the morning...**shrugs** oh, well. ;)
Ravyn
Sunday, May 6, 2001 10:11:58 AM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

::walks into the CR wearing nothing a pair of shorts and a pair of Tevas. Sits down at the Tea (Coffee?) Table of Peace and conjures an ice-cold Mocha Frappucino, pops it open, and chugs it.::

My god, I am SOOOOO relaxed. I just got back from a weekend at UC Santa Cruz. UCSC is the most amazing place on earth. They call it a college, but its really just a bunch of insanely beautiful people paying the state $15000 a year to live together. Their classes, majors, and anything else having to do with academics are jokes. They smoke more weed than the characters in Half-Baked. They play more Starcraft than the Berkeley Clan. They are some of the coolest, most interesting people I've ever had the priveledge of meeting. Oh, and did I mention that the whole weekend I only saw 5 chicks that I would *NOT* sleep with!? It was amazing. Everywhere I looked, there were hot chicks. It was like dying and going to heaven, but with more hot chicks. And the dorm food was really good too! I was floored. I didn't think such a place could exist. But it does. And Santa Cruz be thy name.

Saturday night my friend Zach (who we were staying with at Santa Cruz) directed an entertaining RHPS production on the campus. It was pretty damn funny. Most of the people there were virgins or 2nd timers, so those of us with experience really got to fsck with them.

This entire weekend I've had but 12 hours of sleep. Normally, I get at least 25 in a weekend.

And now....THE RESPONSES!

Coyote: <>: Always feels good to walk out of a test and not be neurotic until you get the results back. <<I'll put my Caddy up against both the Jeep *and* the PT>>: You're on. I have a fold-down back seat which leaves enough room for an entire mattress. Driving down the interstate in a living room sofa doesn't offer much opportunity for you to participate, since, well, YOURE DRIVING. I can see how it might be fun, but I like space.

SJ: <<Because we aren't animals>>: Speak for yourself dude. ;-) <<it just wasn't cool to swing around in trees and eat bananas any longer, so we decided to walk erect>>: Would someone please tell me when important things like this go out of style!? I've been swinging in trees all week!! <<lots of enthusiastic atheists and evolutionists out there>>: That'd be me. But I'm not out to disprove you. I have my own opinions about this, but I've learned that my moral ideas are much different from most peoples. You have good arguments for your case. <<I'm not the only one who can "run someone out of the CR">>: I'm absolutely certain that I could do it if I tried.

Lain: <<URGENT MESSAGE FOR IMZY>>: Done. <<upgrade her 810MB hard drive.. some more memory and she needs a new net card>>: Um, I have bad news. Doing those upgrades is REALLY expensive. For either the same price or just a bit more, you could get an entirely NEW laptop. From what I understand about the age of your Mutant Enemy, that would be a REALLY good idea. Tell your dad it was your "atheist friend's" idea 8-). <<joshy poo>>: You may call me Josh, Imzadi, or Imzy. Seriously. <<EXTRA*???>>: Some of us have massive PSL folders. I'm gonna need that extra 20 GB, especially if I have to ditch my 30GB external hard drive. Wait a minute. If you only have 810 MB, where do you store all your full-length movies?!

Siofra: <<does anyone know when new eps of Timedancer will be up?>>: Prepare for unbridled pessimism: NEVER. Now, if it ever shows up, I won't be disappointed ;-) <<You would think I'd learn the first time, but nooooo>>: Does the name Pavlov ring a bell? <<All I wanna see is more Brooklyn!>>: Simple minds, simple pleasures, I guess...

Rayvn: <<your small debates about me>>: You flatter yourself. They're not about you. We're just using you as an example. <<am I butch, built like a brick wall, or both?>>: To me they're the same thing. <<The world may never know>>: Until June 22nd. <<Give me a sports car any day>>: I'll put it on my list...of things not to do any time soon. <<Especially if it was Arizona>>: Despite the ASU mascot, there is nothing wild about Arizona.

Gside: <<judging by stqatistics of geek, or at least engineering populations>>: LOL, especially here in Berkeley! <<For general fun>>: There is nothing fun about biology. Even the reproduction lectures are boring. Now, fluid dynamics...THERE's a class ;-) <<you meant in the new season>>: Implying that homonecropyrobestialiacs *SHOULD* be in the next season? <<Should I start crying like a little girl>>: I'll ask Hanz and Franz. <<it is pretty much a permanent affliction>>: Oh, ye of little faith...<<He used to post>>: Kindly explain to me how exactly a CAT used to post!? <<chicken head eating version>>: I remember when a little girl at camp told me that meaning of "geek". The funny thing is that when I was a camp counselor this past summer, one of my duties was feeding the chickens (no, not to geeks). <<what are our exact demands>>: Change the name of "The Vatican" to "Big Trouble in Little Italy"! What more could we want? <<That's a bad thing?>>: You have to ask!? <<I've had files larger than that>>: My PSL folder is 11.2 GB, or roughly 14 of Lain's hard drives. I've had files that are 700MB, but never 810MB or larger. When I get my new laptop, I might make one just for fun. <<Na zdorov'ya>>: What does that mean, anyway? <<Everyone's favorite hobby>>: And about as mentally challenging as watching linoleum peel. <<No quality control. That, and all the guys>>: So true. <<

Gunjack: <>: Uh huh. Sure. <<Ren Fair>>: Hope you had fun.

Jaden: <<if my eyes could breath I'd inhale it>>: Ditto! <<Anyone who is curious about something just needs to ask>>: So they can immediately be directed to the "Ask Greg" archives where they can continue their search, without getting any help from any of us.

Timedancer: I'd like to see an episode where Brooklyn runs into himself, besides that stupid ep where he shows Sata what an idiot he was around Angela. Running into himself AFTER he comes back from his Timedancing. That would be cool. Notice how Broadway and Angela (in 2158) never tell Brooklyn if he's coming home. Brooklyn does he his own grave in 2255, but he doesn't look at the time and date, and so he really spends 40 years wondering if he'll ever be reunited with his family in a permanent manner. That's pretty cool for a reader, but I honestly think that the main character would have been driving to depression or worse. Follow Lyn's suggestions about longer stories.

Lynati: <<wow, look at all the typoes im making>>: The fact that you noticed them suggests that you should do something to fix them! ;-) <<longer stories>>: Amen. <<bound to the gate>>: Really?! That wasn't my understanding. My understand was that it was just waiting for someone to pick it up, and Brooklyn did (cuz he's a shmuck). He's become attuned to its behavior so he knows when they're about to dance, but I really don't see why he couldn't hand the gate to someone else and tell them to have fun. <<WHY THE F$^#& WOULD XANDER HARRIS BEING CALLING FOX XANATOS "MOMMY", ANYWAY?!>>: I dunno. Maybe the same reason that Xanatos says "call me daddy" to Fox? Or was that just WRONG?

Azrael: <<you rule out the POSIBILITY of the world ever getting better than it is>>: Um, how exactly did you make THAT logical leap? <<assume that most (any) people who are, what we would call, evil THINK they are evil>>: So instead, you're going to assume that people YOU think are evil are evil. That's a much better solution...NOT! <<we should just let him go>>: Um, no I didn't. Just because we should respect someone's right to life doesn't mean we can't kill them if the circumstances warrant. I think the death penalty is okay to use as punishment against someone who has deprived so many people of THEIR right to life. But then again, I think the death penalty is an acceptable punishment for Driving Under the Influence (DUI), rape, and IRS agents. So everything in perspective. <>: My heart goes out to you for that. If I were you, I'd make it a point to take a couple days, contact whomever needed to be contacted, and find out. And write it down somewhere important, or frame a picture of him with his name on it, so you never forget. I couldn't stand to lose a friend like that. I'm sorry you had to.

Shinigami: <<breasts!>>: Those don't give you much authority to end arguments, just start them. <<nothing sexier than making out in the back seat of a tiny car>>: Making out...fine. What if I want to do MORE than that in the back of my car? Not that cramped spaces aren't cool, but I like a little bit more room to...maneuver. <<What in the world makes you think that more room equals better?>>: Just my personal preference. You'd never catch me having sex in the back of a VW bug. Well, maybe. If she was cute. <<Dooooood, but, like men are hot!>>: Men are physically revolting as a group. There are some good looking men, but the female body is a much nicer, softer, more aesthetically pleasing form. <<two hot men making out... >>: is disgusting. <<Why should we *have* to all get along?>>: I believe her theory is that since we all share ONE interest, we should all be friends. Silly, I know. <<we are clans. Not Clan>>: An interesting way to put it. I like that idea. <<we can't all pretend to believe in the same things>>: I've said this many times before, but it applies here entirely: If two people agree on everything, one of them isn't needed.

Kathy + Gathering Staff: Okay, I'm baffled by the paypal thing. I created an account with them. I put $0 (yes, that's ZERO dollars in it). If I try to register for Gathering online, I'm gonna get an email that says "click here to send us $40 through paypal"? At which point, will I be able to feed my credit card to paypal and have them bill me? Wouldn't it just be easier to accept all major credit cards (or at least Visa and MC) and just be done with it? Why paypal?

Beth: <<ride rollercoaster rides to figure out physics problems on a packet the teacher gives>>: Every roller coaster is a physics problem in conservation of energy and/or momentum, and that's it. Maybe friction if you're lucky. <<The poor guy nearly got a nose bleed>>: That's soooo anime...<<Slow day, no?>>: Sunday, I think. Did the name change while I was hanging out with stoners in Santa Cruz?

DPH: <<protect my bell peppers>>: I recommend a refridgerated safe for protecting greens...oh, wait. You meant protect GROWING bell peppers. How about a separate greenhouse? Or a cat that attacks rabbits? Or maybe a fake female rabbit filled with explosives? (hey, it worked in cartoons!).

Absolutely nothing should be concluded from these figures except that no conclusion can be drawn from them.
- Joseph L. Brothers, Linux/PowerPC Project

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley (again), CA, US of A
Sunday, May 6, 2001 09:42:53 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

*posts sign*

It reads:

Slow day, no?
Beth H.
Sunday, May 6, 2001 07:27:47 AM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

euthanasia & suicide - Normally, I wouldn't want to talk about this except for a few deep questions. We all know that insurance companies normally don't pay surivor benefits in the event of suicide. What about people who refuse to take medicine and end up dying? Did they commit suicide? What about the kids who end up dying because of parents who refuse to let the children get treatment? Are they killers?

Hmm. I did gardening yesterday with my dad and planted quite a few pepper plants, mostly bell peppers. I also planted some HOT peppers. Will those hot ones protect my bell peppers from being devored by rabbits?
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, May 6, 2001 03:39:17 AM
IP: max1-13.cwy.cei.net

Oh my God, is that you, Aris?

Regardless of what you may think, I do miss you in here. Your views on...pretty much everything....make me pull my hair out by the roots. But I dig that. So I sort of miss you hanging around here to infuriate me.

As it stands, you remain living proof that I'm not the only one who can "run someone out of the CR".

I suppose my remarks could be considered as anti-death penalty....naturally, that was not how I meant them. For me, at least, the act of killing another CANNOT, ever, be an act of compassion. (If I wanted to really mess with minds, I would try and argue with you that capital punishment IS compassionate, but I don't have the time or the inclination right now.) I can justify killing someone out of self-defense, in war, and capital punishment, but euthanasia? I see it less as compassion and more as just simple human weakness.

But to get back to Kevorkian....he REALLY does get off on killing people. He's a serial killer, basically. Only he's just a smart one--he picks victims who don't care if they die, so when he offs them, it's considered an act of mercy. It's not. You could argue that euthenasia is an act of mercy, but I sincerely doubt that Kevorkian's motives are that altruistic.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Sunday, May 6, 2001 01:58:42 AM
IP: 66-44-64-14.s14.tnt6.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Ack! I (easily) refuse to post after being called 'an anti-social jerk' by Doug.

I (with great difficulty) fight off temptation to post, when SJ tries to guess (*very* wrongly) what my opinion about that China situation would be. Political debates have a way of drawing me in, and there are few things more alluring than correcting someone who misrepresents your opinion.

And yet it's only now that I find it irresistable to post, when I see SJ using arguments that are *so* anti-Death penalty. :-)

OK, here's my own two cents in the euthanasia debate, before I fade back into reading and lurking: Whether we are animals or not is unimportant - what is important is that we must strive to be humans. Whether one is atheist, agnostic or religious, the point is to also be human.

The 'putting animals to sleep' argument was wrongly used IMO. We don't put them 'to sleep' because they are *animals*. We put them 'to sleep' because we are *humans*. If it was the former reason, then we'd *not* care whether they suffered or not.

And being humans we must try to kill only out of compassion. Not out of hatred, or out of revenge, or even out of so-called 'justice'. Which is basically one of the most important reasons that I am pro-euthanasia and anti-death penalty.

Furthermore I believe in having the *right* to live. Not the *obligation* to live. Each one's live is their own.

I don't care about Kevorkian himself. Perhaps as SJ says, he does get off on killing people. If that's the case then that's very wrong and he should be given psychiatric treatment. But it doesn't really influence the euthanasia debate - and I admit that I have seen several supporters of the death penalty which also seem to 'get off' with the execution of people.

Anyway, I'm back to lurking again. If I post again it will not be in this debate - and it will also not be for a long while...

See ya all. Take care.
That I almost never post....
Saturday, May 5, 2001 07:55:44 PM
IP: athe530-o231.otenet.gr

*creeps back in*

d.

..."I'm going to "bed"..."

*shakes head and walks out*
Lynati Kshudra
Saturday, May 5, 2001 05:17:46 PM
IP: 207.94.232.197

*Enters*

Top Ten!

wee-hee! another fun-filled five hours of work!
it's 4:15. I'm going to be right after I catch up.

*gone*
Lynati Kshudra
South of Sanity
Saturday, May 5, 2001 05:10:56 PM
IP: 207.94.232.197

Just dropping off a link. Interesting news story.

I am still alive. I just haven't been reading the CR.

But I am sorry I missed this arguement!
Fire Storm - [<---Welcome to Gattaca]
Saturday, May 5, 2001 01:37:40 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Jannie: Of course. Welcome aboard! Now our gang needs a name. CR Girl Bikers is a little too generic.
Kit
Saturday, May 5, 2001 12:03:33 PM
IP: pool-63.52.167.18.dlls.grid.net

7TH!!!!!!!!!
Ranma Saotome - [Ranma_Saotome79@tendodojo.com]
Saturday, May 5, 2001 12:02:07 PM
IP: host-209-214-114-92.bna.bellsouth.net

Gunjack> <<Caught up on sluggy>>: Not Narbonic?
<>: And I AM the man. Sorry, I just had to do that.
<<How about>>: Isn't ringing any major bells, and my searches aren't turning anything up.
<<It's like "Misinterpret Valentine" week>>: Everyone's favorite hobby.
<<Gunsmith Cats>>: I got a music video recently that put GsC footage to the tune of Magnum PI. Quite fun.
<<maybe more...>>: You seem to be the kind of person to like Lupin III.
<<this guy can throw ANYTHING to deadly effect!>>: Even ducky training pottys?
<<When I wore a younger man's clothes..>>: Last time someone did this, I wrote out all the las. I think I'll skip that this time.
<<You Know the Problem With Nudist Colonies?>>: No quality control. That, and all the guys.

Shinigami> <<What in the world makes you think that more room equals better?>>: Do you really need to ask that question?

Or maybe quadruple post (too late now). Linearity is too boring, and as a comp sci, powers of two are natural. Which reminds me. Exam tomorrow. At least it's after noon.
And it's probably a good thing Baldur's Gate decided to stop letting me load saved games.

And for the heck of it, the new mp3 is I Can See for Miles by The Who.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, May 5, 2001 11:51:35 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

5thish!

Fire Storm and Lady Mystic
Saturday, May 5, 2001 11:50:07 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Fouth!!!!
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Williams Lake, BC, Canada
Saturday, May 5, 2001 11:44:31 AM
IP: 204.244.52.42

3rd.
Should I tripple post?
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, May 5, 2001 11:16:10 AM
IP: gside.resnet.rutgers.edu

2nd!!!
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Saturday, May 5, 2001 10:36:53 AM
IP: dialin-685-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

FIRST??!! :)
Ravyn and Coyote
Saturday, May 5, 2001 10:22:51 AM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu