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Note to all those who would email me: unless you have sent me an email already, please include the remark about meeting me from the tgs cr. I've been around quite a bit in different areas.

apparantly, my dad has left the door wide open. But he did ask me how I unlocked the door. I guess he thinks I'm not-that-smart because he wanted to know how. Sorry, but I plan on keeping that a little secret from him for obvious reasons.

No top 1O yet?

1+1=-3

Jannie - hahaha. It reminds me a time long ago when my dad had crutches. I wasn't driving then, but I heard complaints from my mom and brother about how the crutches happen to be long enough to reach both the acclerator and brake.

Haberno peppers - I plan on some payback on some co-workers concerning a certain bet about me eating a whole haberno pepper. I plan on making my own pizza (to their specifications) and liquidifying the haberno pepper and mixing it in the pizza sauce. They'll never see it coming. One problem, though: Since Walmart does not stock them, what kind of store normally stocks Haberno peppers?

Relationships - ok, some of you may get tired of hearing this. Last Saturday, I conquered a fear of driving through a certain area to visit a friend. I don't know; I just seem more relaxed than normal when visiting a friend.

OH yea, California isn't the only place that has Earthquakes. A few weeks ago there was an Earthquake in Faulkner County, Arkansas.

Anyone catch the deliberate typo in this post?
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, May 20, 2001 02:35:14 PM
IP: max1-59.cwy.cei.net

*Warpmind enters, carrying a big billboard with the word "MORON" stamped all over it.*
Well, I am officially a schmuck. I was meddling with the RPG I'm working on, and, for some reason, I managed to delete the World map and all its sub-maps... So I gotta start ALL over on that, and all the game events, people, places, etc... I'm just grateful I didn't wipe the database at the same time; that's where I've got all the vital stuff... :/ NYARGH! *Begins scavenging for old scraps and notes.* I think there's a mean li'l demon roosting on my shoulder at times...

Christine: Right you are. I just didn't remember the title. (And if it helps, I never was mad at you for that one...)

Gside: You'd be amazed at how un-vulgar I can be when I set my mind to it. (It is terrifying, really, how many interesting slants any household word can get only through different pronounciations... a skillful person could make anything sound REALLY dirty, even if it wasn't...)

Shadowrider: Peace, good fortune, and a spacious schedule be your friends, compadre.

Well, that's about it... Back to starting over on that world map... I've got some more code to do in the database too, anyway... :/
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, May 20, 2001 12:29:04 PM
IP: mp-217-238-211.daxnet.no

Final passage for this licence, people...sorry I haven't been that present this time, but I had a lot of things to set up...I'll do better next time, I promise.

Warpmind:> Me? Ack...so many things that I eventually don't know how to begin. Most of them on the good side, luckily. :)

Winterwolf:> Good to see you, friend. Unluckily we haven't been able to catch this time, we'll do next time (I think I'll be here again in a couple of weeks)

Jannie:> Well, how could I not make a passage in here every time I'm home? There are so many friends here...so, I really cannot do without at least saying hallo...:)

Alright, then, nothing more for now. See you all in a couple of weeks, I suppose. Hold on until then!

<waves and exits>
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:51:09 AM
IP: h213-100-195.mi.albacom.net

Shadowrider> welcome back! It's always good to see you check in here whenever you can so that we know that you are still safe and sound. :)

Jaden> ack, Korea? =\ I take it that isn't a fun place to be?

Josh> safe journey for your return trip home this weekend. What are your plans for the summer besides the trip to Canada and to the Gathering?

I went to an auction yesterday and had such a great time!! I was bidding on things "just because"! *L* I bought a lot of nifty things - most of which are antiques. I waited in the sun for over 4 hours just to bid on an antique dresser... well, I got it (paid a bit more than I wanted to, but this gal started bidding against me and that kicked my competitive personality in...hehe) There was a chest of drawers that went with it, but it went higher than I wanted to spend :( When I went back with my dad's truck to load the dresser, the lady that had purchased the chest was waiting for me... she wanted to buy the dresser from me since it was more or less a matched set. I offered to buy the chest from her instead, but she was buying the set for her 4 yr old granddaughter. Well....if you'll notice the neon flashing sign across my forehead....SAP. I gave in and sold her the dresser. Anna was encouraging me to sell it to her - she just didn't want to lift it into the back of the truck! *L* Ohwell, this just means that I have to go to some more auctions to find another dresser... hehehe oh darn! ;)
When I got home from the auction I called my mom to tell her of my treasures and I found out that my dad had just fallen off of a ladder - a 10 ft. drop. He was apparently cutting down a very large tree limb with a chainsaw and the ladder slipped out from underneath him. He at least was quick enough to know to throw the chainsaw outwards - it was still running when it hit the ground O.o He fell with his back across the large tree limb. We got him to the hospital and X-rayed, he has 2 broken ribs and a nasty cut/scrape across his back. We still have no idea of WHY he was cutting off this limb... it was large and full of foliage...??
hehe, his doctor happened to be on call at the emergency room and when he met me, he noticed my ugly scar down my left leg... he said, "like father, like daughter, I see"
Anyway, dad is home drugged out and I advised my mom to keep him that way... dad does NOT suffer in silence. *L*

thanks for the condolences concerning Dolly the Pug. We still miss her a lot. Glory is keeping our time occupied though! She is quite the entertainer and handful! Sooo funny :D She keeps Juanita on her toes and as long as Glory doesn't invade Juanita's personal space, they get along fine now. Well, "fine" according to Juanita.. *L*

Must get dressed now.. Anna and I are going to Silver Dollar City today. It's a theme park/community based on the hillbilly folklore and crafts - with some nifty roller coaster rides thrown in ;)
Jannie
Sunday, May 20, 2001 09:28:56 AM
IP: modem25-301.mo-net.com

Hi Shadowrider! Well just like you said you're back this weekend! ^_^ I'll try to catch you later. Glad you have a good Lieutenant. :)

Everyone else I'll be writing more tonight if all goes as planned.

Bye!

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Sunday, May 20, 2001 02:33:11 AM
IP: adsl-141-155-119-116.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Warpmind> <<You're a sick, twisted person, you know>>: Thank you.
<<we really should duel to see who's the worst of us>>: I'd probably lose, if only because I do not let any vulgarities into my vocabulary. With the possible exception of spoony.

Lynati> <<YOU PEOPLE HAVE TWISTED MY POOR, INNOCENT, ONCE TENTACLE-FREE MIND>>: Woot. Let's see, the next item on the list: Release all poultry from market.

Imzadi> <<thats a three hour final completed in 75 minutes>>: My record on any exam is 20 minutes, but on three hour exams, it's probably close to yours.
<<a collection of eps on CD(s) in QT format>>: I've heard good things about the divx codec.
<<Is that like being stuck between a rock and a hard place?>>: Kind of, but stickier.
<<yells at the top of his lungs "PUSSY! COME HERE PUSSY!>>: So wrong. And worse because no cat will come to a call like that.
<<Long posts are what Doug and Kit used to spit out before they stopped RPing>>: Or Wilek and oldschool Traveler.

Gunjack, Wilek, you'd better be catching up quick like bunnies on acid...

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, May 20, 2001 12:54:53 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Good evening, folks.

New mystery: the idiot locks me out of the computer room, but expected me to travel to visit a friend. If anyone has the answer to this mystery I would like to hear it.

I mowed my yard today in an attempt to make peace with the idiot.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:16:51 PM
IP: max1-69.cwy.cei.net

Hey all!
I just had the coolest day!
My aunt came by to visit for awhile, and she just got her new car last week. We had some videos to take back, so she asked if I wanted to drive. I said yes, of course, and got to drive her brand new, white 2001 Firebird!! I think she said that there are only 1000 in the state or something like that, and this is the last year they are making the Firebird. Now, I'm more of a truck person, but damn was that fun! We basically cruised around for about an hour and a half with the radio cranked up (a little Prodigy and the like). We had the t-top open and the windows down, it was almost like being in a convertible but with less wind. At one point, we drove under these two hot-air balloons and they waved at us through our roof :)
The only problem is I really had to watch my speed, cops pull over cars like that without even having a reason.
Anyway, the boyfriend is on his way over, so I'm outta here. Was just really excited and had to share with someone!
'Night all!
Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Michigan
Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:09:30 PM
IP: dialup-63.212.151.125.dial1.detroit1.level3.net

*enters wearing her perrywinkle two piece prom dress*

MY F****ING GOD IS IT HOT OUTSIDE!!!! *wants to dunk self in cold water but can't*

Ladies and Gents, as I type this I am in my prom dress waiting for my boyfriend to be dropped off at my house so my dad can drive us to the Prom at the Hyatt Hotel in Sacramento. David sent me half a dozen red roses which are on my counter and my corsage is in the fridge. Already got my pics taken for the Prom at school today. After the prom David and I will go to his house to watch movies and more Outlaw Star.

Gene Starwind really reminds me of my sister's boyfriend in a sense. Neither takes any crap of assholes. :P

BTW, I might be getting a website soon, curtousy of my boyfriend. :) I plan to post my short story from Creative Writing on it and other things I've done. Maybe I'll be able to get a scanned pic of me and David on it. I'll keep you guys posted about it. :)

Until next time people!

*goes off to wait for boyfriend*
Beth H.
Saturday, May 19, 2001 08:41:49 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

I"M DONE!!!! I finished my last final today at 1:45 (yes, thats a three hour final completed in 75 minutes). I walked out early when I realized that I just don't care about this final. I'm getting an A in the class and the final is only 25% of the grade, so worst case scenario I fail and get a B. Oh no. I'll never be able to look at myself in the mirror again...

The final covered object oriented programming, recursion, iteration, bisection, newton-raphson, forward/backward/central differences, euler's method, and probably some other stuff that escapes my memory at this point.

Anyway, I'm in Berkeley for just a scant few hours before my dad gets here and gives me a metric assload of boxes (for those of you who aren't familiar with SI units, a metric assload is 1000 milli-assloads, or 1,000,000 micro-assloads). I will then throw all my stuff haphazardly into these boxes, throw the boxes haphazardly into the truck, and haphazardly drive home. Yes, that's 10-12 hours of car time for my poor old dad, I'll have to make sure I don't give him too much trouble while I'm driving HIS car. Yes, I get to drive the shiny silver BMW X5 that's barely a month old while listening to tunes of my choice (as long as they don't offend my dad, so mostly BNL and stuff, as the hard stuff is likely to piss him off).

So by 10 or 11 pacific time, I should be home in LA, slowly unpacking as I fight to stay conscious...or maybe I'll just leave the boxes in my room and go to RHPS. Depends on how tired I am.

Hey, I'm thinking about getting a TV capture card for my next laptop and getting good quality Garg episodes. As I don't have a DVD burner, how much would anyone in here want/be willing to pay for a collection of eps on CD(s) in QT format. I can probably fit two eps on a CD, maybe 3, but these would be TV quality, not crappy Real or WMP quality. Anyone interested?

Gside: <<shoved between a wang and a hentai tentacle>>: Is that like being stuck between a rock and a hard place? <<But he does not use the romantic connotation>>: Nor would I even if I were a romantic. Its just not as funny that way.

<>: Reminds me of a really funny story. The cats that live at my house in LA are normally outside during the day and they come in at night. One night, shortly before my parents went to bed, my mother told my father to "open the door and call the cats back inside". So my dad (animal lover that he is) opens the door and stands there and yells at the top of his lungs "PUSSY! COME HERE PUSSY!" more than loud enough for the entire neighborhood to hear.

Siofra: <<long post>>: HA. That was SO not a long post. Long posts are what Doug and Kit used to spit out before they stopped RPing.

Warpmind: <>: First, you just put me and subtle in the same breath. Second, give me some credit. 8-)

Lynati: <<tentacles for angela>>: I think I've got a tentacle for demona around here somewhere...

Activate SLAVE GIRLS. Fondle SLAVE GIRLS. Activate SLAVE GIRLS.
-SimShatner (with the help of Mike Margolis and Maneesh Goel)

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, May 19, 2001 05:32:03 PM
IP: adsl-64-170-153-255.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Josh > the 31st of May is the absolute latest deadline for AvMists; that's a Thursday.

Warpmind > the story's "Reprisals," the one that made so many people mad at me wanting to know "how could you be so mean to Lexington?" like it was my idea ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, May 19, 2001 03:34:59 PM
IP: 22-109.075.popsite.net

*Warpmind skulks in, looking ashamed*
Gee, I'm already getting chewed out by a woman I'd do just about anything for... life's treating me strangely. But of course, in Pistoff's words, "Business as usual". };)

Lynati: So you'd rather I'd have made no hint whatsoever, anywhere, that I was concerned about you, is that it? Didn't think so... oh, and who IS that other roomie of yours, anyway? There's Revel, and you, but wasn't there supposed to be three in that room? ;) Oh, and I am ashamed... why have I never noticed that tentacle thing? ACK! ACK! THAT SOUNDED WORSE THAN INTENDED!!! *Is now upshut on the topic.*

Revel: Good thing you get money. And I kinda doubt Lynati was referring to *you* as the forgotten roomie, ya know... Oh, and I'd never call someone in a country without an official language I do speak. The US, and most of Canada, should be pretty safe, though... and the UK, and India, and Australia... and that should be about it, I think... Aaanyway, my point is, I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid. Uh, or something to that effect... ;)

And that should conclude my post now. Later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
In handbasket, going
Saturday, May 19, 2001 01:01:55 PM
IP: mp-217-200-52.daxnet.no

Well, speaking of opening big mouths I just opened mine and now I have to go to work at 11. It was a nice summer vacation while it lasted. It's not too bad but the concept alone always gets to me, work. At least it's money, I had to nibble at my savings which I told myself I was not going to in order to save it for the gathering so money is good.

Lynati- trying to forget the third roomie, man, no respect I tell you no respect. :)
I'm glad you're feeling better, but you get use to banging your head into things, I did.

Warpmind- stupidity and the telephone, well my modem died one time almost a year ago and I had set up a chat with this girl I knew in France and I could not contact her so I acctually tried to call her, but I either dialed the wrong number or something and I bit of advice for everyone, do not call international if you can't understand what the
people are saying, communication is seriously under rated.

"Our situation has not improved."
-Dr. Jones (Sean Connery) Last Crusade-

Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Saturday, May 19, 2001 11:11:03 AM
IP: aca748af.ipt.aol.com

*pops her head back in*

Oh yeah; I forgot.
Gunjack does indeed have a sister. She can be rather fun to talk to. (at least, when she isn't ripping the connections out of the wall...)
Lynati Kshudra
Saturday, May 19, 2001 06:28:02 AM
IP: 207.226.219.103

*Lynati enters*

AHAHAHHHHH!!! lain!! Val!!
*Killer-attack-huggle-GLOMMing ensues*
missed y'alls. Although, you both being completely out of touch the week of my finals was probly a good thing; I worked pretty solidly through that 45 hours strait (with the exception of one art history class, two showers, meals, and one quick excursion to run down the block to buy lighter fluid from the QuickTrip), and had you two been around, I would have likely been tempted to IM instead of work, or, more likely, being in a room with a bed for more than five minutes might have tempted me to break my "no sleep until I finish these projects or pass out trying" pledge. (and, no, waking up drooling on that ink resist did it no harm.)

Oh, and *I* got up at SIX PM today. err, yesterday. Friday. (...I win.)

Warps: *hugs* no, no, I can still deny. I just pretend I can't remember whom the third roomer is at G'01, and when she asked "WHY IS SOMEONE FROM *NORWAY* CALLING YOU?!" I told her that lain and val and I phone chat all the time, too.
which is...err...sorta true...true-ish, anyway...yeah...

oh...lain...Val...I need your respective address's and phone numbers; I cannot access my copies. :P

...In other news...YOU PEOPLE HAVE TWISTED MY POOR, INNOCENT, ONCE TENTACLE-FREE MIND, YOU BASTARDS!!
;)
See, my da was kind enough to tape every Disney re-played original gargoyle ep for me, so I'd have copies that you could actually SEE, and I was watching the tape that starts at "Avalon" the other day, and has the next 15 eps...
And what is the first thing I notice? huh?
(I'm gonna blame noticing this on head trauma...No, Wait!! it's Gunjack's fault! yeah, that's it!)
Did you know that in the duration of the world tour, Angela
gets attacked by tentacles of one kind or another on at least THREE seperate occasions?!
...
okay, that's enough for now.
Just thought I'd share.

*walks out, whistling innocently*
Lynati Kshudra
Saturday, May 19, 2001 06:25:23 AM
IP: 207.226.219.103

*Warpmind enters, looking sheepish.*
Heya, everyone...

Shadowrider: Piles too numerous to list, I assure you. ;) You?

Beth: Ah. I see why you're sworn not to pass along copies. *Sigh* That doesn't mean I have to like it. };) But seriously, congrats once more, and welcome back.

Lynati: Hey, I only called because you had a concussion, and we heard nothing more after that report. I was worried out of my SKIN! (Which I can now safely retrieve from the local dog pound - they caught it.) If it's a comfort, I'm not calling again, unless you have another bad accident like that before G'01. Deal? *Sigh* If it helps, I don't think I let on more than concern for your health, on behalf of the CR dwellers... *Coverup, coverup, coverup* By the way... I think an e-mail is overdue... will compose a little something after this post...

Aaron: By the way, I need a review on that litany soon. Only a month to go, compadre.

Josh: Appreciate it. I wouldn't want people to look for me as a slender catgirl at G'01, or something. };) (Though it looks as though there's a chance I can get a Jason Evermore costume together...) Oh, and I doubt you and subtle belong in the same breath... };)

Lain: Yay! You're back! I'll be passing you an e-mail, then.

Gside: You're a sick, twisted person, you know... we really should duel to see who's the worst of us... but out of the CR, I think - to avoid any unnecessary casualties. As for whether Mike's sister is called Blue... wouldn't know.

Hey, Gunjack! You even GOT a sister? };)

Well, that's about it. Cheerio, everyone.
*Dances out, happy that Lynati is okay.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, May 19, 2001 05:44:25 AM
IP: mp-217-214-234.daxnet.no

Beth: Congrats on the new relationship! I always love it when things like this happen, makes me feel all happy and stuff : )
BTW, the ring he gave you is called a Claddagh ring (CLA-da or CLAW-da). Traditionally, it is an Irish wedding band, but it means different things depending on how you wear it. If it is on the left ring finger, it is considered a wedding band. If the heart is pointing away from your hand, its kind of like an engagement ring, if it is pointing toward you, it says that you are married. If you wear it on your right ring finger point out, it means that your heart is "free". If it is pointing toward you, it means that you are taken.
My sweetie gave me one for Christmas, which also happened to be our one year anniversary. It is diamond cut gold, and it sparkles when the light catches it. I ended getting him a silver one. Everyone thought it was pretty cute that we got each other the same thing. We are both Irish, so it worked out well :)

Well, not much else to say, this is probably a long enough post already, so I think I'm going to bed now...work in the morning...

G'night all!

Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Michigan
Saturday, May 19, 2001 12:27:35 AM
IP: dialup-166.90.230.34.dial1.detroit1.level3.net

Beth: I must have that syndrome too, I'm the same way about jokes made at my expense. <shrugs> Personally, I think happiness should be shared, it's best when it's shared. Please go on sharing your happiness. And welcome back! :)

Off to watch Lain now.
Doug
Friday, May 18, 2001 11:22:45 PM
IP: slip-32-102-11-38.mi.us.prserv.net

Imzadi> <<what does that have to do with flipping people off?>>: What is flipping someone off supposed to represent? And I never said the tail would make contact with anyone. Just if you are going to make such a gesture, why not go with the most phallic object at hand?

Lynati> Heal quickly.

Guandalug> <<should I lock out pure adult stories (Rating NC-17/X) from the top ten listing and the listing of new stories in the regular fanfiction archive?>>: I vote most definately keep them in the new stories, but top ten is up to you.

Cal�ioe> <<Can somebody be so kind as to direct me to the week before last week's CR?>>: I think you'll have to wait for Lady Mystic to update the archive.

David G.> <<How many of you would be interested in reading stories about stuff like what Sevarius does when he's not working for Thailog or somebody>>: Yup. Though if I would actually get around to reading it is another question. And feedback is almost hopeless. Unless you're talking about a line or two in the CR shoved between a wang and a hentai tentacle.

Yggdrasil> I can feel your pain, and congratulations on not hving to do al the work over again.

Warpmind> <<the fact that you can tell the issues apart seemingly offhand>>: Well, I did have to go check what the issue number was. And I see you also got number eleven with the first hot springs episode. Nice. But couldn't Hirose have come in later?
<>: sorry, this is THL Mike. His left hand is rather chapped, but there isn't anything else wrong with it. Though I would like to meet his sister (I don't believe her name is Blue).
<<how do you break a tentacle?>>: Apparently you can't, though I'm sure it could be bruised quite badly.
<>: Sadly, it appears to have slipped though the cracks of my mind.

Beth H.> I too vote for overreacting, but I see this has already been ahppily resolved. There is almost no reason why anyone should take anything personally in here. Heck, I recently insinuated that Imzadi was a cat when he had already said he would take it as a great insult.

Stephanie> <<For someone who calls himself 'Imzadi', Josh certainly is not a romantic>>: But he does not use the romantic connotation.

Beth H.> <>: Who cares if they're allready on CD, I can do that myself. Except for the 240 meg limit at Rutgers, and no burner on the connected computer here.

Gunjack> <<Slept in till 2pm>>: Beat you.
<<Ever heard the idea that an interest in guns and weaponry is actually a symptom of male "insecurity"?>> Didn't that start with Freud?
<<Well, what does it mean when you obsessivley fold, crop, chop, and bullpup 'em to make them as small as possible?>>: Probably the same thing as all the engineers working on miniaturization and nanotechnology.

Lain> <<on the road again>>: But will you do the pattycake bit?

The new mp3 is The Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy (of Company B) as performed by the Andrews Sisters. There are various reasons, but has anyone ever cared about them?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, May 18, 2001 11:12:15 PM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Lain: Its true, I can't be alone for five minutes without getting into some trouble. Fortunately, I'm going to Canada is ::checks calendar:: 7 days, so you'll be able to keep an eye on me and monitor my every activity. Sorry I haven't called, do you still want me to give you a call next week while I'm in LA?
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, May 18, 2001 11:10:57 PM
IP: adsl-64-170-153-255.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

hey you guys.. IM BACK!!!!!
or at least.. its the victoria day long weekend and im home with el parentio (fun fun)

*hugs jaden carefully..*
aLjFHZAUSGFYAEKJRNA;KIDJGOAJRO;IAJDFGOJDF OIJOIj;oij oijfgoij!!!!!! THERE IS A MOSQUITO IN HERE!!!!!!!!!
*switches to "stealth kill" mode and stalks the insect*
..
sorry about that..

gunjack>> male insecurity huh? *refrains from commenting further.. for the safety of all innocent bystanders*

lyn>> hmmmm.. remind me not to leave you any unsolicited messages on your machine.. yikeroos... ; )
*reads back further to find out WHY warps was so worried..*
WOAH!!!!!! *hugs lyn gently* im REALLY glad youre okay.. bonkie on noggin no good.. : (
anyways.. glad to see youre still alive.. me too, im happy to report : )

josh>> whove you been tickin off now? sheesh, cant leave you alone for five minutes... *grumbles*
; )
oo and i drew yer garg..
too bad i dont have my comp and scanner back yet, huh? well.. soon..

you guys hear about the latest suicide bomber in israel? i was listening to cbc news in the car on the way home, about the man, standing outside the shopping centre. someone called the police cos they thought he looked suspicious but before the police got there, the man pushed his way into the entrance of the building and detonated the explosives strapped to himself, i believe he killed six others in the process.
the news report went on to detail that the suicide bomber was 20 years old. can you imagine? 20 years.. thats.. about how old *I* am..
i can imagine myself dying for a cause in which i truly believed but i cannot imagine taking other lives with my own.. i cant imagine it.. why do they have to fight? is this strip of land REALLY worth that many lives? i dont understand..
*sighs sadly and hopes there wont be another war*

love to you all,
lain "on the road again" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Friday, May 18, 2001 10:55:30 PM
IP: ttya0a.ptbo.igs.net

BUWAHAHAHA! I finished my physics 7c final, which covered a wide range of topics including optics, special relativity, general relativity, quantum theory, sub-atomic particles, radioactivity, cosmology, and a bunch of other fun stuff. The exam was REALLY hard, and I only left early because I concluded that staying for another hour wouldn't improve my score any. No matter what I did, there was no way I was going to remember what a "zero point energy" was. ::opens physics book and looks it up:: Oh, that's what it was. Anyway, that was my last physics class EVER. Well, sorta. It was my last class that's called "Physics #", but as an engineer I still have much physics-like stuff to deal with.

If Beth left her email address in this CR, I'd have emailed my apology. Oh well, bygones n' stuff.

I don't speak for the CR (obviously), nor do I claim to. I like making jokes about being sappy. Its funny. I've been doing it since I read Coyote's and Ravyn's first posts months ago. Get used to it. As for detecting sarcasm, from now on, you can assume I'm being sarcastic unless I do this:

****PURE, UNADULTERATED RAGE*****
"rant"
***END PURE UNADULTERATED RAGE***

Jannie: I'm glad you appreciate the brand of sarcasm that SJ and I provide. Its not there to be mean, just to help people see things a little less seriously.

Stephanie: I picked the callsign "Imzadi" nearly six years ago because the first mention of it was a REALLY STEAMY SEX SCENE. The meaning of the word, in my opinion, is in the eyes of the reader, and when Deanna said it meant "the first", romance did NOT come to mind. So it became my callsign and later my handle. You're right, I'm not a romantic. But don't assume that I want to convey that I am a romantic just because I choose to call myself Imzadi.

Christine: Congrats on finishing the book so fast! I'm really impressed. <<Av Mists>>: Still working on the icons. Give me an absolute deadline and I'll send you what I have.

Warpmind: <<drawings of you as characters>>: Very well, if they're not then I will rename them...the idea, silly, was to send me a pic of yourself as a character. 8-) <<less subtle and rougher around the edges>>: I can do subtle. I just choose not to most of the time.

DPH: I don't have a problem with knowing each other at all. And quite honestly I really don't have a problem with the sappiness. Its just fun to joke around. I think we should all get to be buddy buddy in here (except for Pistoff and Doug, who I think would probably kill each other). 8-).

Beth: I'm sorry, you can't be the biggest ass on earth, that title is already taken. By yours truly. Now, if you want to say "I *HAVE* the biggest ass on earth", that's a different story 8-). And if you're happy, you should let everyone know. Especially us, since you know that we all have no lives whatsoever and all get our jollies by living vicariously through others. Of course I'll forgive you, silly. If I didn't, I'm sure Lexy would nail me to the wall since she just forgave me 8-).

Lynati: "don't call": LOL. I can't believe that happened. Yeah, denial pretty much is out the window now. Glad you're feeling better.

Aaron: <<beavis and butthead quote>>: LOL. Reminds me of that song "57 channels and nothing on". And its so true, too. But there are a few channels that don't suck for an hour or two a day. Like Toon Disney doesn't suck when its playing Gargoyles. And TNT doesn't suck when its playing Pretender. But MTV always sucks.

Gunjack: When you do that to weapons, it means your an engineer with a bright future in the arms business. It also means you're going to be on my top R&D team when I take over the world.

Coyote: I GIVE UP. Just send me the damn picture. I see two "room 4"'s on your site, and neither has anything that mentions ravyn. So just email it to me and I'll add her.

There is an old vulcan proverb: only Nixon could go to China.
- Spock, �Star Trek VI: the Undiscovered Country�

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, May 18, 2001 10:22:04 PM
IP: adsl-64-170-153-255.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Josh: Yes, I drew most of the pics. Only exceptions are the Guest Gallery and the CosPlay room (which has a photograph and that's it). The pic I want you to use is in room 4. Ravyn and Rosanna are two completely different people ... Ravyn is Ravyn and Rosanna is my character (not a chat persona of *anyone*). Hope that clarifies. :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, May 18, 2001 10:04:42 PM
IP: 64.243.214.153

Just checking in. I'm back in Korea...I think I'm going to cry.

Later.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Friday, May 18, 2001 07:51:25 PM
IP: 211.237.77.46

One other thing, cause I can't freakin' sleep.

Ever heard the idea that an interest in guns and weaponry is actually a symptom of male "insecurity"? Well, what does it mean when you obsessivley fold, crop, chop, and bullpup 'em to make them as small as possible? o.O

I already got a pretty good answer from Warps, but I wanna see what the rest of the hentai crew can do... ; )
Gunjack "semipsycho" Valentine
Friday, May 18, 2001 06:58:24 PM
IP: acaf3019.ipt.aol.com

Aaron>Yup, Shippo has shown up. And he has the cutest voice!!! ^_^
Beth H.
Friday, May 18, 2001 06:35:17 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Home now. Too tired to post. Nursing massive anime hangover. Slept in till 2pm. Need more sleep.
*gurk*
*thud*
Gunjack "Pifle King" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.comj]
Friday, May 18, 2001 06:34:29 PM
IP: acaf3019.ipt.aol.com

Beth> Lucky, lucky girl. <<1-13>> Has Shippo shown up yet?

TV> Is a vast wasteland. And getting vaster by the day.

Josh> <<:puts back pinkys:: ah, much better.>> That's because you're used to them. If you only had four fingers all your life, and suddenly you had five, it'd probably be easier to ignore the pinkies.

Geez, that's it?

"I heard that pretty soon there's going to be, like, 500 channels."

"Whoa! That's cool! But y'know what would be really cool? If they had *one* that didn't suck?" -Beavis & Butthead.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, May 18, 2001 06:28:16 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

*Lynati Enters*

I LIVE!!

..and I am feeling much better. ...The fact that I am still eating soup and jello is by my own choice. No, really, it is!

*Mock glares at Warpmind, walks over, and lightly slaps him upside the head*
ahem:
"...You have a couple anwsering machine messages for you."
"oh? from who?"
"Some guy with an accent..."
SO MUCH FOR PLAUSIBLE DENIAL!!
*puts one hand over her face and massages her temples*
...See, I KNEW you couldn't keep from calling/writing until after G'01!! That's why I didn't give you my home listings.
and, obviously, if I was feeling well enough to post, I must at least be feeling well enough to sit upright, type consistently, and think well enough to compose.
*exasperated sigh*
Oh, well. I'm sure you meant well.
(and at least it wasn't like that dream I had between learning of the messages and actually hearing them, in which you called me by such saccharine endearments that my 'rents immediately grounded me for life because they thought you were a mafia henchmen...)
okay...to some up...
DON"T CALL AGAIN UNTIL AFTER G'01!!

and thank you to those who showed concern for me; I appreciate it.

*Lynati Exits*
Lynati Kshudra
Friday, May 18, 2001 06:22:40 PM
IP: 207.226.219.117

sorry about the double post!

Warpmind>I got the InuYasha episodes from my boyfriend, who got it from a friend. Sorry, I don't know any place on the Net where I can get InuYasha episodes on CD for free. :(

Would be fantastic if I could though...*sigh*
Beth H.
Friday, May 18, 2001 06:03:42 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

*enters*

Hello, my name is Beth, and I'm the biggest ass on earth. :P

Josh: Dude, I'm sorry. I didn't see your comment as a joke. I thought you were making an insult. I'm not good with jokes (part of the Asperger's Syndrome). I either take them literally, and get insulted or don't get them at all. Many people in my life have made mean jokes about me and I am very sensitive about it.

The problemn with me is, if I'm happy about something (anything), I feel like a should tell everyone. I just want to share in my happiness with people. Please forgive my little moment of being completely immature and bitchy. I sometimes just have one of those days where I act like a complete idiot. ;P

Forgive me?
Beth H.
Friday, May 18, 2001 06:00:10 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Hey hey, guess who's at home for a couple of days? Well, my friends, really seems I've just left this time, isn't it? Luckily, I had no services this weekend, and the Lieutenant thinks that, if you have nothing to do, there is no reason for you to stay at the base...

Emambu: Got your email, gonna reply tomorrow. Not tonight, I am sorry, but I am a bit too sleepy...I prefer to wait a twelve hours and write something that makes sense...

Kit and Doug:> Hallo! Well, glad to hear you're fine...you know, I had read that comment of Doug's and I had thought...oh, well, nothing important anyway. <<I'm not gonna go into details as to what exactly happened- it was bad, leave it at that.>> It's your right. And, sometimes, it is the best choice availabile.
<<Never done one on an alpine road though>> Well, I suppose that near your place there are not that many alpine roads. Personally, I think that a good alpine road is the true natural habitat of a good bike - curve, acceleration, countercurve...that is fun! :)

Kyryn:><> Well, thanks for the wish...but, unluckily, it was not so. And, I think, the whole Italy has lost last Sunday. We lost an opportunity to definitively close with the past. And now, everything will get worse. All the sacrifices done by so many people...it is gonna be all useless. Is it possible to love your own country, and at the same time to hate the people living there? Possible or not, it is more or less what is happening to me now...

Warpmind:> So, what's going on for you these times?

Alright, nothing more for now. See later for you, tomorrow morning for me.

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Friday, May 18, 2001 04:40:24 PM
IP: h217-166-134.mi2.albacom.net

It's hard to detect sacrism when dealing with folks in the CR room.

1+1=-3

There is a rumor floating around my workplace that Tyco is going to buy Molex. Naturally, I disbelieve the rumor because of its source [people from the other plant which is having difficult times]. If anybody would check out that rumor, I would be gratefull. Nevermind: I am confusing Tyco with Tyco RC, which is owned by Mattel.

that's all.

Imzadi - I personally prefer it when people share information about their private lives as long as it's rated PG-13. That way we all know each other.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Friday, May 18, 2001 02:32:21 PM
IP: max1-20.cwy.cei.net

*Warpmind enters, looking rather freaked.*
Okay, my concern for Lynati may just have made me do something incredibly stupid. And if their phone number is unlisted, I've done something that goes BEYOND stupid. And I think I better quit ranting now. *Gulps down a large mug of green tea.* I'm calmer now. Honest... :/

Guandalug: You're absolutely right. I did not read the text on the first page. (C'mon, who does, anyway?) };)

Beth: Woohoo on the David bit, and WHERE? WHERE? on the Inu-Yasha bit. Where did you find those episodes???

Dreamie: You haven't heard me speak yet. };) (But seriously, I'm looking forward to meeting you. I sense great jesting to take place then...)

Josh: I see your point. As for whether of the drawings are of me as the characters, well... Evermore does bear some resemblance to me, I guess, but I assure you, I am in no way, shape or form equipped with the body of a catgirl of any sort. (And unless I wind up in the proverbial hands of Anton Sevarius or any equally twisted genetic engineer, I never will.) A pic of me MIGHT be available after The Gathering... in garg form, if Lynati consents to it, of course. ;) As for the TGS ep, well, I've completely forgotten the title, but it's by Christine Morgan, and a three-parter, I believe... the one where Lexington got him implants, as I recall it. First season finale, maybe?

Beth: Don't you leave! Don't you DARE leave! Just because Josh happens to be even less subtle, and a lot rougher around the edges, than me, doesn't mean he speaks for the CR. Quite the contrary, in fact! So you stay here and share your stories about your personal life. Naturally, details relating to the exchange of bodily fluids are not necessarily wanted info. };)

Well, that about concludes the post... *Goes back to being worried about Lynati's well-being, and begins digging up a towel for the 25th...*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, May 18, 2001 01:59:06 PM
IP: mp-217-200-61.daxnet.no

Just a quick one right now. Haven't had time to post anything, but hopefully I will soon. Got a lot of stuff to catch up on....

SJ: I sent you an email last night, and it got bounced back. I sent it again, but I just wanted to let you know that something seems to be haywire, just in case it doesn't get through this time.
Pistoff - [pistoff@uci.net]
Friday, May 18, 2001 01:25:00 PM
IP: ip-216-104-69-227.uci.net

Dreamie > ack, no, I haven't ... I never get to the U-Dist ... that's where it is, yes?

Book News > got a surprise package in the mail; RAP sent me a box of candy and a hat with the company logo on it. Nice folks! I am due to finish the first draft of ElfLore Book II next week, and since I started it shortly before my birthday, that's an entire novel in just under 2 months. Whew! Once that's done, I plan to devote all my time to fanfic and Gathering stuff. So there should be some new stories forthcoming.

Avalon Mists > still got some time left to send things in before the deadline! Don't forget the Challenge -- where/when else did Guardian Tom visit when he went looking for Goliath?

Douglas Adams > Click on my name for John "Dork Tower" Kovalic's tribute. Also, May 25th is Towel Day; carry one with you to show the world that you are a cool frood who knows where your towel is!
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, May 18, 2001 12:45:49 PM
IP: 13-061.075.popsite.net

For some strange reason, I keep typing extra 'a's and 'e's all over the place. The 'a' I could understand, but you have to move to type an 'e'. *puzzled*
It is taking me forever to load up the CR. Of course, that is probably because I have two CR windows open, an 'add comment' window open, and a window into the TGS archive open.

David G.:<Freelance series> Sounds interesting, definitely not the same-old, same-old. You will have to tell us when the revisions are up.

Imzadi:<I'm bigger, stronger, and I don't fit in a microwave> Yeah, but my Momma Cat is meanner. You would never get her in a microwave... at least not without loosing a major amount of blood and some body parts. ;) You should be glad that she is out terrorizing dogs right now. <<type with three fingers and move more>: I'm trying that right now, and its really hard!> Touch typing was hard too, when you were first learning, and pianists certainly do not have a finger for each key. It's all about how you learned. I am sure it drives Demona up the wall, since she has to switch between hands, and Broadway and Hudson might just hunt-and-peck (which is the same no matter how many fingers you have), but I am sure that Lex, who loves computers so much, has probably learned to do it.
Thanks for apologizing to Beth.

Beth: *carefully gives her a hug* For someone who calls himself 'Imzadi', Josh certainly is not a romantic. I loved hearing about David, and do not want you to leave. BTY, is he Irish, because that ring he gave you is an Irish wedding band...

Thanks for the 'welcome backs' everyone.

Au revoir
Stephanie D - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Friday, May 18, 2001 11:21:56 AM
IP: modemcable200.80-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca

Kathy> many thanx :) not sure how much it'll help, but 15 dollars really isn't much considering. *sigh* with luck, i just MIGHT have a small chance of actually attending the next one. Anyhoo, thanks for posting the info (though i hope noone else in the room is bugged by the big post, thats why i had suggested the email, but *shrug*)
Mike - [grandmasterofinsanity@yahoo.com]
Friday, May 18, 2001 10:53:18 AM
IP: dialup-63.208.43.33.dial1.saintlouis1.level3.net

Beth> awww c'mon... Josh was just being humorous with his comments about you and your boyfriend.
Josh and SJ have a sarcastic humor - which I enjoy - and they do not mean any harm with it. There's no need in leaving over something that was said in jest and humor... besides, no one wants you to leave! :)
Jannie
Friday, May 18, 2001 08:47:09 AM
IP: modem19-186.mo-net.com

:: We interupt your Comment Room in progress for this week's Gathering News::

The Gathering News # 30
May 18, 2001

Welcome to The Gathering News! In this issue: Registration Desk is Still Open! Going, Going, Gone! Heard Around the Web! Artist Alley Opens! Voice Acting! We Couldn't Do It Without You!

We're Still Here!

The Pre Registration drive has ended and we'd like to take a minute to thank everybody who participated. But, we'd also like to remind folks that we're still here and ready, willing and able to handle your membership and collectible needs! That's right! You can still have your Con Badge, Tee Shirt and Calendar waiting for you at the Membership Desk! You can still become a Supporting Member, help the Gathering and qualify for the free Tee Shirt Drawing!

How? By getting your US POSTAL SERVICE delivered or PayPal processed registration in to us by JUNE 11th.

AND WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

Due to some especially creative negotiations on the part of your convention committee, you can still reserve seats at the AWARDS BANQUET! That's right, you can still reserve your place at what is sure to be the most talked about event at the Gathering!

So don't delay, surf now to http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/registration.htm

Going, Going, Gone!

We've been talking with the staff at the Sheraton Universal and the Reservation Desk advises us that the Room Block is almost exhausted.

Rooms must be booked with the hotel directly by calling (818) 980-1212 or toll free 1-888-627-7186. Please be sure to tell the hotel reservations desk you are with "The Gathering of the Gargoyles" to receive the special group rate.

For more information, please see:

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Heard Around the Web...

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Glad to help! The basic ones are: You must be at least 17 years old, weigh at least 110 pounds, be in good health and not at risk for AIDS. You should not have donated blood more recently than 8 weeks prior in most cases.

The Red Cross has lots of information available on Blood Donation. You can find some of it here: http://www.redcross.org/services/biomed/blood/learn/index.html

Walk ins will be most welcome at the Gathering, but if you know that you plan to give blood drop us a line and let us know! gathering2001@art-chicks.com

Thing to Do.... Gathering of the Gargoyles Activities

Artist Alley To Open!

Fan artists can never resist the opportunity to draw. Fans love to have specially commissioned pics of their favorite characters. Put the two together in an informal atmosphere and you have an Artists Alley! That's right. As a special Gathering Extra, we've arranged an area where artists can set up shop, draw to their hearts content and sell their work.

If you'd like to be a participating artist, let us know! Contact our Art Event Coordinator Cindy and she'll let you in on all the details.

artshow2001@hotmail.com

Voice Acting!

You've always wondered how they do it, those people who supply the voices for our favorite animated epics. How do they create all those different characters at the drop of a hat; one minute playing a gruff western sheriff and a few lines later switching smoothly to a simpering desperado. You can learn their secrets at our Voice Acting Workshop!

This year's workshop will be lead by actor Thom Hernandez, known to "Gargoyles" fans everywhere and forever as "Lexington". He'll be assisted by some surprise guests, so you won't want to miss out on what is sure to be a fun filled and informative time.

Planning on auditioning for this year's radio play? Attendance is highly recommended. There is no advanced registration so be sure to get there early!

Stay tuned here for scheduling specifics on all of our Gathering Events!

http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/events.htm

We Couldn't Do It Without You!

This week we have two special mentions to go out. The first, is to our volunteers, without which, we would be nowhere. Thanks to Johnney "Mooj" Muije and BrooklynX who have joined our ranks. We appreciate you signing on, guys!

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If you've decided that you're ready to sign up email us at gathering2001@art-chicks.com and put "Volunteer" in the message header.

Our second "Thank you" this week goes to our dedicated boosters who have help us spread the word about this year's Gathering. We're talking fans who have downloaded our Gathering flyers and handed them out to friends, fellow fans and total strangers.

We'd like to put the spotlight this week on Solstice who is taking word of the Gathering to CONDuit. We really appreciate this!

And it's not too late for you to help out! Please, especially if you live in the WESTERN STATES, specifically if you live in CALIFORNIA and even more specifically if you live someplace in that rambling sprawl known as SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, we need you more than ever to DOWNLOAD the FLYER and POST IT where other FANS can see it. Take it to your local BOOKSTORE, ART SUPPLY, GENRE SHOP, COSTUME SHOP, you get the idea.

Pre registration has been terrific, we've already broken past Gathering attendance records,
but we're still short of where we'd like to be. So take a minute, print some flyers and do your bit for "The Defenders of the Night".

Get the FLYER here: http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/

It's in PDF format near the bottom of the page under the Header "SPREAD THE WORD!"

Thanks! We truly couldn't do this without... YOU!

That's it for this week!

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::We now return to your Comment Room still in progress::
kathy - [ gathering2001@art-chicks.com]
Friday, May 18, 2001 07:51:44 AM
IP: rr-56-13-145.atl.mediaone.net

Wait a minute, Beth. You're WAY overreacting (and since I told my roomate last night that I was going to throw his laptop out a window, I know what overreacting is!) What part of what I said sounded like "leave"? I didn't even say anything that suggested that you should stop talking about your private life. All I did was thank Doug and Kit for leaving theirs out and say that you were being all sappy. I don't want you to leave. My comment was intended to be in all good humor.
And its not that I don't give a damn about it. I'm just making an obnoxious comment about your fawning. Take what I say with a grain of salt. Please don't leave.

Now Doug, don't go commenting and claiming a knowledge on my relationship past that you don't know anything about.
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Friday, May 18, 2001 12:55:50 AM
IP: adsl-64-170-153-255.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Beth: One thing Kit didn't say that I will-> There is nothing to be ashamed about in finding a good person to share your life with. Kit and I are happy we have done it every day, and you should be too. I hope that you are. Just because one person can't understand it, as he lacks a similar experience, doesn't mean you should get mad and do something awful like leave. Please reconsider, take back your choice. We'll all miss you terribly if you don't.
Doug
Friday, May 18, 2001 12:49:20 AM
IP: slip-32-102-11-4.mi.us.prserv.net

Dreamie: Thanks! :)

Aaron: Well, LDD definitely has cool stuff. And lots of it. <grin> Thanks for the explanation.

Imzadi: No Mac here. Thanks anyway though. Sorry. And I hope you'll apologize to Beth, we all know you didn't mean what she thinks you did. <sappiness> What? Our racy bits in the past haven't been sappy? Maybe Doug and I aren't sappy people by the usual definition...:)

Beth: Please don't leave. We love having you in here. Or at least Doug and I do. Stay, lady, stay! <Doug looks at her strangely and she laughs> Congrats on David again, I'm glad he has good reasons to like you. Did you tell him why you liked him (if he asked)?
Kit
Friday, May 18, 2001 12:46:18 AM
IP: slip-32-102-11-4.mi.us.prserv.net

Josh>Fine. I will leave my personal life out of this CR. Permenantly. I'm sorry that my good fortune of finding someone who gives a damn about whether I'm alive or not makes you sick. I've found a good person, and I intend to enjoy being with him.

Good bye everyone. Thanks for the memories.

*leaves*
Beth H.
Friday, May 18, 2001 12:28:14 AM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

A day with no finals is like a day without stress. Or at least it would be, if I didn't have a physics final TOMORROW! ::Sits down at tea table of peace and begins frantically reading through a textbook the size of the Grimorum, copying stuff onto two 8.5x11 sheets of paper::

On top of that, I just went to the most useless review for my programming class. This stuff is such a joke, I can't figure out how any self-respecting engineer *DOESN'T* get it. Or maybe they just lose their self-respect after this class. 8-)

Lynati: Don't die on us!

Guandalug: <<short poll>>: I think the adult stories should be listed in the "New Stories" but I don't think they should be accessible from the normal archive, rather only from the adult archive. Can you do that? Cuz, really, who checks out the adult archive every day to see if there are new stories? Of course the current top ten is adult stories! If anything, porn people know how to generate hits and stack the deck in their favor.

Stephanie D Cyborg: <<Why should you be spared?>>: I'm bigger, stronger, and I don't fit in a microwave...BUWAHAHAHA. <<not exactly sure what you meant by this order>>: I meant is the third finger on a gargoyle hand the equivalent of a combined ring and pinky finger? As opposed to the second finger being a combined middle and ring finger or something. <<type with three fingers and move more>>: I'm trying that right now, and its really hard! ::puts back pinkys:: ah, much better.

Caliope: <<a new Miss Universe>>: I saw her on Daily Show yesterday...not too shabby...but not too phenomenal either. Hardly qualifies as a Miss Universe.

David G: <<set it off an hour before the deadline>>: I have that dream too.

Yggdrasil: <<months of work almost lost>>: Whoa...I would have had one or five heart attacks. Glad everything was alright.

Kit: <>: ::blushes:: awww. <<use it for a folder>>: I hope you have a mac, cuz that just won't work on windows. Windows doesn't support the cool things that go into those icons, like transparencies, millions of colors, etc. If you have a mac, I'll be happy to send you the stuffit file and you can play with all the icons you like.

Warpmind: <<the forestry behind Manxine would be way more complex>>: Nyet. Forestry is GREEN (well, most of it anyway). So photoshop had little difficulty removing it, though I did have to do some fine tuning. All in all probably took me an hour to make that icon (compared with 5 minutes for one of Dreamie's pics). <<CSH, what'd I expect>>: Well, I didn't KNOW it was CSH. Also, I've turned some of her other artwork into icons without much fuss...<<Evermore>>: There was a full body pic of Manxine, which motivated me more than the cutoff of Evermore. But looking back at Evermore, maybe I'll give it another try. Question: are both of those drawings of YOU as those characters? Cuz the point of collecting drawings from CR members was to have icons of the actual CR members as anthropomorphs or gargs or whatever (not that I won't accept other drawings, but if its labelled "warpmind" and its not supposed to be you, then I should change the name". <<where he used both hands and his tail>>: Would you do me a favor and point me to the TGS fic? I'd like to see that. <<a Richter scale>>: LOL.

Aaron: <>: I *AM* normal-SEEMING. It usually takes at least a couple of hours to figure out I'm about 51.6 cards short of a full deck. But I don't plan on spending that much time in front of Disney Suits. Hence nominating myself. <<plenty of attractive people>>: I am SO bringing my digital camera to Gathering! Maybe my laptop too. <<if something has been read enough to make the Top Ten>>: I disagree in the case of adult fics. Many people read them...frequently...if you catch my drift.

Beth: Congrats, you've reached the level of sappiness that so far only Coyote and Rayvn have been at since I joined (thank you, Doug and Kit, for leaving all that crap OUT of the CR so us single people can keep our lunches). And you did it without even having David *IN* here! Okay, now a question: How come if I say to girl "you've got potential" I get the following response: "are you saying I'm not qualified yet (angry tone)?" Yet here's a girl that just fawns over the line! Argh...anyway...

SJ: <<TV summaries>>: Good descriptions. I like L&O too, but it just doesn't hold a candle to South Park, so I wind up watching that on wednesday nights. Sometimes I catch reruns on A&E, though. I can't wait to see you as a judge. If I take over the world, I'll let you pick your court. Although my laws won't support jail time for smoking weed, I'm still in favor of not giving that many chances to a celebrity just because they're a celebrity. And dude, NO ONE has less talent than the boy bands. At least Limp Bizkit writes their own music, simplistic and pop-crap as it is.

My all time favorite stunt pulled by Fred Durst is on his newest album, where he has a song that's just filled with Nine Inch Nails lyrics (you can't miss it, is the one with the lyrics "you think I'm a perfect drug"). The song was written in response to Trent Reznor (happy birthday Trent! You're 36! I wish you many more!), when the NIN-god said that Limp Bizkit sucks (I'm sure he said it with more words, but that was the idea). So Fred gets this zany idea to dis NIN by using their own lyrics and making fun of Trent. Problem is...the moron needed Trent's PERMISSION to use the lyrics. Trent, of course, granted such permission, as few (if any) NIN fans actually listen to the crap that is Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water (I confess, I listened to it...once). So now, Limp's fans think that Durst wrote these amazing lyrics, while the NIN fans are laughing maniacally at how stupid Limp fans are. Well, I have just one thing to say to Durst: Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve 8-)

Dreamie: <<I'm pretty certain that's not the case here>>: I do have lots of close female friends...but they're not the kind of girls I'd want to "get". <<puzzled as to which one it is>>: There are SO many things I could say here, but I'll just keep quiet. <>: Every sunday, comedy central, 10PM our time. Oh, wait, that's on satellite service... <>: I know, but I didn't want to overwhelm you with 400 requests from CR dwellers to draw them, so I just kinda suggested you were being nice. I won't make THAT mistake in the future 8-) <<you'd be surprised how many Ariannas there are>>: No, I really wouldn't. <<Suddenly looks scared>>: Oh come on! Take one for the team! 8-) <<You don't need a separate icon page for that>>: Yes, you do. Turning that pic into an icon takes work and programs. Just the picture won't help her. <<This moth has only one flame>>: What? You're b/f is a flamer? Huh? <<I'm not straddlin' the fence>>: We don't wanna see that in here. Keep it PG-13, please. 8-)

Coyote: No worries, I saw the pic of Rain. <<geocities won't let you ...>>: And in conclusion, GEOCITIES SUCKS. Okay but I'm still confused on Rayvn. Is her real name/character name Rose/Roseanna? Is http://www.geocities.com/xanacorp/roomg4.html the picture you want me to use? No problems if it is...that'll be easy. Actually, there are a lot of pics on that site that I could make into characters...did you draw them all? Let me know cuz I saw a Wilek in there...

Wilek? Any interest in becoming an icon?

There�s no excuse for this kind of erratic retardism.
- Adam Carolla, �Loveline�

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, May 18, 2001 12:15:59 AM
IP: adsl-64-170-153-255.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Josh: Okay, one of two options to get to the picture of Rain:

A: click the original link I left, then when the 404 page appears double-click your "Location" bar and hit "Enter." That should send you to the pic. Because Geocities has a filter that will *not* allow picture files to be viewed through a link unless it's clicked through a Geocities page.

Or B: Click my *current* link and it'll send you to my Gallery page. The pic I tried to leave last night is in room G1. (Oh, and the pic of Ravyn you'll need is in room 4.)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:24:59 PM
IP: 64.243.214.71

Lex> whats this form you were talking about at the beginning for getting gargoyles back possibly? been away from the site for a Looooong time and don't currently have time to go back in the archive and find out...but if you have a spare moment and can email me and fill me in on it, i'll try to help. Definitely be able to spare the 15 bucks you mentioned. anyhoo, i'll try to catch up on the comments (now that i actually have a computer that can download the room in less than an hour) and find out what you were talking about in the meantime.
(would have emailed you personally, but didn't see an email link, so sorry if this post is against normal policy or bugs anyone)

thx
Mike - [grandmasterofinsanity@yahoo.com]
St. Louis, MO, USA
Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:24:20 PM
IP: ppp-64-216-223-110.dialup.stlsmo.swbell.net

:::Appears with a large basket of fresh flowers, grinning and giving them to Lynati::: I hope you feel better! :::tweaks Warpmind's nose and laughs::: Deep Breaths ^_~

Imzadi: <<The opinion of this engineer and his roommate is that this gargoyle looks like a "gay surfer"...>> :::sly grin::: my work here is done :::dusts hands::: <<Ya know, people thinking I'm gay wouldn't be so bad if it got me chicks. But it doesn't. >> You know, I *would* say that's because many gay guys are considered a girl's best friend... but I'm pretty certain that's not the case here. ^_~ <<Well, you look nearly as fetching as I do.>> .........:::cough::: <<(Dim Sum) I SO have a place for you! >> Yay! ^_^ <<But you can tell which head learns faster by seeing which one grows faster. 8-) >> I'm still puzzled as to which one it is in your case. :::snickers::: <<Look at me! I'm talking to treif! -Uncle George, Duckman>> Hey! I miss that show! (The reruns are on too damn late...)

Doug:<<It's cool, Dreamie did a good job drawing. >> Thanks Doug! ^_^ <<. Maybe I should get one commissioned sometime. >> :::arm shoots up in the air and grins:::

Imzadi again:<<Ask Dreamie if she has time to do one...she did mine for free!>> :::Blinks and tilts her head::: I do everyone's commissions for free. <<Um, I don't think that's THE arianna from CR...that's just some other Arianna Dreamie drew.>> This is true... you'd be surprised how many Ariannas there are out there. <<bring gargoyles back in exchange for a night with the Gathering Attendee of your choice! 8-)>> :::Suddenly looks scared::: O.O

Kit:<<Actually, I just wanted to see _your_ icon. :) >> You don't need a separate icon page for that... just go to my original pic on www.angelfire.com/wa2/dreamie/images/Imzadi.jpg ^_~

<<Angel>> No comment, never watched it.
<<Buffy>> No comment, never watched it.
<<Millionaire>> No comment, never watched it.
<<Survivor>> No comment, avoided it.

Shadowrider:<<Thank you so much>> My Pleasure <<..and, for anything else...see above...;)>> heh heh... Anyway, See you next time! ^_^

Greg B.:<<Finding life article>> I saw that too... I find it interesting that not only does msn put that in the pets section, but this is the only mention I've heard.

Aaron:<<(Does Xellos' embarrassed, hand-behind-the-head-thing) Uh, yeah.>> :::Chuckles:::

Oracle:<<Stoneflight>> So now Disney has a *third* set of gargoyles....

Welcome back Cyborg! ^_^

Cali:<> I don't like them either... but I've found some great substitutes...ever see those kakis with the adjustable pull cord on the front, or with a small cinch strap on each side?

Warpmind: <> This moth has only one flame... er........ yeah.

:::sitting at the Tea Table of Peace looking out at the CR::: ((O.o))
Well... erm.... That reminds me... Christine did you ever put up a Gathering poster at the Gargoyle Statuary downtown? And I think I found out what that Gargoyle Distribution thing is... as far as I can tell it's the name of the company that puts out those rows of free paper boxes downtown :::shrug:::

At the personal risk of someone thinking I'm not straddlin' the fence, I must say I can't help but find SJ's posts enjoyable. :::chuckles and reads some lines over again as she's lounging at the tea/coffee/esspresso table of peace:::

SJ:<<One potentially interesting show coming on at 10 is "Wolf Lake", about a bunch of wolves that live in Seattle in human form.>> iiiiiinteresting......... <<Family Guy returns>> YES!!!! Finally new Stewie lines to feed my annoying impressions of him. ^_^ <<Besides, the storylines there are more believable that anything happening on Friends or Just Shoot Me.>> ....uh... Kane being the masked-red-giant-previously-declared-mute-long-lost-once-thought-horribly-burned-to-death-then-brought-back-revealed-to-be-alive-by-his-actual-dad-short-ugly-annoying-and-pudgy-Paul-Barrer-who-had-an-affair-with-his-business-partner's-wife-brother-of-the-Undertaker? It could happen.

Only a couple weeks until the gathering!! :::grins giddily::: :D
Dreamie
Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:24:15 PM
IP: acb73447.ipt.aol.com

Sorry about the double post...

SJ> I just remembered a site you may enjoy... posted below of course.
Return of the Trent - [<-- Movie reviews!]
Muncie, IN, HELP!!!
Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:21:13 PM
IP: cy44970-a.muncie1.in.home.com

From the CNN news desk in Atlanta...

"Simpson offers advice to Blake in murder investigation"

Simpson: Find a white Bronco and go for a nice, slow drive.
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:20:50 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

SJ> For a second there, I thought your post read that the new show about interns would be called 'Blech.' All I could think about was how they came up with THAT name.;) Back in reality, it's acceptable to be wary of any show that's happening because slick willy got a happy...

God, your post reminds why I watch less TV in a year than most people watch in a month. There are too many 'me-too's' on right now. I only watch 'The Daily Show,' 'Farscape,' and 'Newsradio' reruns on A&E with any regularity. I have yet to see a full minute of 'Survivor,' even in talk show clip form, but I'm okay with that. Really.
Breaking the Trent
Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:13:29 PM
IP: cy44970-a.muncie1.in.home.com

Well, I didn't have anyone yelling at me or pointing fingers and going "tsk tsk" at me in here over the past couple of days, so I didn't quite feel the need to post. Today, however, we're back with more fun filled hilarity, including a somewhat in depth run down of the upcoming fall TV schedules. So let's begin!

****SJ's ANALysis of the Upcoming TV Schedule****

I'll break down everything by network, and pepper things liberally with my own commentary. Because, as everyone in here knows, really only my opinion matters.

NBC: Lots of shakeups over at NBC, mainly because "Must See TV" has pretty much been "Stay Away At All Costs TV" for quite some time.
On Sunday nights, NBC is doing away with their Sunday-night-movie. While this doesn't bother me that much, I will miss seeing some of the more innovative and good movies produced over the past few years, such as Merlin or the Odyssey. Instead, viewers will be treated to another hour of that annoying bitch on Weakest Link (who, might I add, is nowhere near as mean as she should be). They'll also be debuting a third Law & Order series, "Law & Order: Criminal Intent". Hey, I love the L&O series-I think it's some of the best on TV. Keep 'em coming.
On Monday nights, nothing new. If you enjoy the annoying British bitch who makes me want to rip off someone's ears as soon as I hear that goddamn catchphrase, than you'll be happy.
Tuesday's it's more mindless sitcoms. A new one will be about Emeril Lagasse, the cook from the Food Network. Have I mentioned lately that I wish that the Iron Chefs would gang up on Emeril and cook *him*? I would pay so much money to watch Chairman Kaga cannibalize his corpse. Also returning are that show about drunk-ass irritable, violent Irish folk, "The Fighting Fitgeralds" (hey, it ain't a stereotype if it's true!), as well as 3rd Rock From the Sun (which should have ended long ago) and the whitest show in America, aka Frasier. Kill me now. And a new show about hospital interns. Blecch.
NBC Wednesday night will remain unchanged. More Ed, more "Law and Order", more "Left Wing"�..oops, I mean "West Wing". Keep eating them shrooms, Sorkin!
On Thursday nights, one of the WORST SHOWS ON TELEVISION, aka "Friends", will return to the 8 p.m. timeslot. The only consolation I take in this is that Survivor will so totally kick it's ass again. Also returning are Will & Grace, which I haven't seen but I know must suck because everyone gushes about how good it is. "Just Shoot Me" returns, lending proof to my theory that David Spade really is the son of Satan. "ER" will return to produce more mediocre episodes. And a new show, "Inside Schwartz", about a "sportscaster whose thoughts are revealed through conversations with sports figures". I just hate Hollywood.
And as for the rest of the schedule, I don't give a damn.

ABC: Ah, the network I watch the least of.
Disney fans, rejoice-the Wonderful World of Disney will be returning Sunday nights at 7 p.m. Hey, maybe when Greg Weisman convinces all of the execs at the Gathering with his hundreds of supporting memberships to jumpstart the series and finally make the movie, we'll see it aired here.
Regis Philbin continues his reign of terror with "Who Doesn't Think This Show Has Been Run Into The Ground?", but now the gameshow will only be for two days out of the week.
Returning on Tuesdays are "Dharma & Greg", "What About Joan", and "The Job", all TV shows that I would not watch, ever, unless each week a main lead died some excrutiatingly painful death. And I don't mean their characters-I want to see them *really* get killed on screen. Oh, and Jason Alexander has a new show debuting called "Bob Patterson". Thank God, I was so missing his ugly mug on my TV screen every week. Tuesday nights at 10 will host the new Kim Delaney show, "Philly". Here's too hoping it'll be about cheese steaks, but I think it won't.
On Wensday night, the Cosby show�..excuse me, the Damon Wayans show "My Wife and Kids" will return, as well as Spin City and The Drew Carey Show. And a new Jim Belushi show will debut. Is it wrong to say that the wrong Belushi overdosed? Oh, and NYPD Blue will show up at 10.
On Thursday nights, the too-godawful-for-words "Whose Line Is It Anyway" (which is, amazingly, even worse than the horrible British show of the same name that spawned it) returns, along with "Primetime Live", and another Millionaire show.
Friday nights, you have "The Mole" (cause apparently we don't have enough crappy reality shows out now), then a drama called "Thieves" starring John Stamos (aka Rebecca's husband). And the chick drama, "Once and Again". I call it a chick drama, because I had better not catch anyone with a penis watching it.

CBS: The Itchy Eye network boasts not so many changes. On Sunday nights, they'll debut a new show, "The Education of Max Bickford". It's about Richard Dreyfuss. Already I hate it.
On Monday nights, all the dumb, crappy sitcoms that I hate will return: King of Queens, Yes Dear, Everybody Hates Raymond (or so I wish), Becker, and Family Law.
On Tuesday nights, my sweet mother will be happy, because JAG and Judging Amy will return. Along with a new show, "The Guardian", about a lawyer who fights for kids. Is there absolutely no show out there that's NOT about 1.) cops, 2) lawyers, or 3) doctors?
Wensday nights will have some dumb reality show called "The Amazing Race" One potentially interesting show coming on at 10 is "Wolf Lake", about a bunch of wolves that live in Seattle in human form. Sounds like a ripoff of both the X-Files AND White Wolf, but it stars Lou Diamond Phillips, whom I like. His wife ran away and went lesbo on him, don't you know. What relevance does that have? None. I just find it amusing.
On Thursday nights, we'll have another edition of Survivor, and here's hoping that an asshole wins this next time (I can't take anymore of the "I'm so sweet!" Tina.) Also, CSI will remain, and a new show about the CIA, "The Agency", will go up against ER.
On Friday nights, they've FINALLY cancelled both Diagnosis Murder and Nash Bridges. But what they've replaced them with�..A new Ellen Degeneres show. WHY? Did no one realize that the reason her last show got canned was not because she was gay, but rather because she is truly talentless? Not even an nekkid Ann Heche would make me watch this abomination.
On Saturday nights, Touched by an Angel finds a new time slot, and the District returns, much to my chagrin. I know there are fans of that show in here. Personally, I hate Craig T. Nelson.

FOX: Fox actually has some shows that are worth watching this upcoming season.
On Sunday nights, FOX continues to bring us really, really, REALLY crappy animation in the form of "King of the Hill" and "Futurama". Fortunately, the Simpsons returns, as does the great "Malcolm in the Middle". As does��.EVERYONE STOP!!!�..the X-Files returns!!!! The Good news: Gillian Anderson will be back! The Bad news: Duchovney won't (to go pursue that scary movie career of his). The REALLY BAD news: We have to suffer through another sh!tty season of a show that should have ended YEARS ago! Chris Carter, I bite my thumb at thee.
Monday nights you have the excellent Boston Public, followed by the terrible Ally McFeedMeBeforeICollapseFromMalnutrition.
Tuesday nights will see the return of "That 70s Show", and a new tv show called "24", which sounds interesting, seeing as all 24 episodes of the show cover hours in just one day. The plot focuses upon a CIA agent, Kiefer Sutherland, as he tries to stop an assassination of a presidential candidate.
Wednesday night is sitcom night, with another episode of "That 70s Show", as well as "Grounded for Life", "Titus", and the new "Bernie Mac Show". I personally don't find Bernie Mac funny, but then again, I hate all sitcoms.
Friday nights sees the return of Dark Angel. Thankfully, proving that God truly is merciful, the abortion that was the Lone Gunmen is D.O.A.
On Thursday nights, we get a real treat-THE RETURN OF THE FAMILY GUY!!! Whooooo!!! 22 new episodes! I love this show. It's truly as twisted as the Simpsons. That, and we get treated to the debut of the live-action Tick, which it seems we've been waiting for for ages.

UPN: UPN has come, and it has conquered. It's stockpiled an impressive array of programs for this upcoming fall, most of then genre shows.
UPN Mondays are a bunch of boring sitcoms that I could care less about.
Tuesday nights, however, feature the premiere of the newly acquired Buffy. The series will debut with a 2 hour opener this fall. Also, at 9 p.m., UPN has snagged another WB castaway, the teen alien drama "Roswell". Personally, I could do without "Dawson's Creek: The Alien Years", but hey, I guess it has it's fans.
On Wednesday nights, the fifth Star Trek show, "Enterprise", will debut. The show will suck, naturally, but since Scott Bakula is the captain, it will suck a little bit less than predicted. The midseason show, "Special Unit 9" (which I enjoy, seeing as it prominently features kleptomaniac dwarves), will return at 9 p.m.
Thursday nights are for WWF Smackdown. Two solid hours of entertainment. For those of you who think I'm being smartass there, I'm not---I really do dig Smackdown. Besides, the storylines there are more believable that anything happening on Friends or Just Shoot Me.
And Friday nights will be for movies. Not returning to the network are a host of crappy shows like "Level 9", "Freedom", and "Gary & Mike". Unfortunately, "7 Days" will not return, which is a shame, because I did like that program. Here's to the reruns getting picked up by Sci-Fi.

WB: What can I say? More Dawson's Creek, more Felicity, more of all the crap that I hate.
All I can say is that Monday nights will feature Angel in a new timeslot at 9 p.m., which I hate, because that's right up against wrestling (Monday Night Raw!). And the new WB Superman show, "Smallville", about the exploits of a teenage Clark Kent (naturally, they've taken one of the greatest, most iconic characters of the last century, and turned him into a Dawson's Creek clone), will debut Tuesday nights at 9. Will it suck? Most likely, but probably not more so than Roswell.

So there you go---lots of crap this upcoming season, with a few good shows scattered here and there. Congrats to UPN for making the most dramatic change, hopefully for the better. As for the rest, I have one thing to say: Thank God for Cable TV.

***END SCHEDULE TALK***

To continue our drug talk�.Darryl Strawberry got sentenced to probation today, instead of jail time. I know many of you probably cheer this. Naturally, I don't. I think the son of a bitch should rot in jail with is ass cancer. But that's just little ol' sociopathic me.
The REAL reason that I'm angry about this is because Darryl has been sent to rehab AT LEAST 4 times already. Four Times!!! Any regular man would have been put in jail the 2nd, or at the latest, the 3rd time around. Darryl got rehab today, and all those other times, because he was Mr. Star Baseball Player. The double standard is ridiculous. They'd send some "regular" junkie up the river, but Darryl gets chance after chance, and he blows every one of them.
If I ever become a judge, you had better not be a celebrity if you stand before me. Cause I would nail your ass to the wall just to compensate for all the times that the rich and famous buy their way out of everything with their money and prestige. "That's not ethical!" Probably not. But hey, I'd just chalk it down to judicial discretion.

From the Comparing Notes Department: OJ Simpson has offered some advice to Robert Blake.
In a news story that makes me giggle, OJ Simpson has offered a few words of encouragement and advice to Robert Blake, whose wife was murdered a few days ago under mysterious circumstances. Simpson said, "I've got to admit, I was pretty fascinated when I first heard it. And my first reaction was an immediate feeling of compassion for [Blake] because I knew what he was about to go through." He then advised Blake to not watch TV, and of course, to not take a lie detector test. That is because, as OJ can attest to, you fail those things when you lie (OJ didn't do too well on his test. They must have asked him how the search for the "real killers" was going).
Like I said before---I am so looking forward to the trial.

And finally, the funniest news story I've heard all week: Fred Durst, of the abortion that is the wannabee rock band Limp Bizkit (who goes down in my book as being an even more talentless boy band than the Backstreet Boys and N*Sync COMBINED) has signed on to direct a movie called "Life Without Joe". The film is basically a rip-off of Deliverance with teenagers. The story is that a bunch of traveling teenage football players stop in a hick town, get accused of killing a cat, and then the locals go crazy and hunt them down.
Mind-boggling what they'll produce, huh?
Anyway, what credentials does Fred bring? He's directed a few of those sh!tty videos he stars in, but the producers allegedly have confidence in him because, get this---he's talked with David Fincher. Yes, that's right. The producers are confident in Fred Durst to direct a motion picture because he's shot the breeze once or twice with David Fincher. Apparently, talking with a director qualifies you to become a director yourself. Anyone meet Stephen Spielberg? Gotten Coppola's autograph? Good, Lucas is on the phone, he wants you to direct Episode 3.

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:35:08 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

*enters*

A few things to say from me:

1) I have the anime episodes of InuYasha 1-13!!! ^_^ At the moment am trying to get more. (No, I cannot make copies for anyone and send them to anyone because I have no CD burner and am sworn not to)

2) I went down town with David today for lunch (today was a block day and neither of us has a 7th period) and had chinese food. ^_^ Plus David bought me one of those Irish rings with the hands, crown and heart. Like what Angel gave to Buffy a few seasons back. :)

3) I asked David, "Why do you like me?" He said: "Because you're cute and have a lot of potential." ^_^

God, I LOVE that guy. :)

*walks out to inhale the wonderful smell of her boyfriend that still clings to her clothes*
Beth H.
Thursday, May 17, 2001 08:02:37 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Whoo-hoo! The fic archive is back up! Guandalug, you're a prince.

Josh> General consensus is that gargs don't have pinkies. <<Attractive.>> No, the fandom has plenty of attractive people. But there's a chronic shortage of normal. <<nominate myself>> Dude, I just said I wanted the *normal-seeming* people. ;) <<how on earth can you wear black in a Texas Summer!?>> Practice.

Kit> <<Austin shop as opposed to a San Antonio one?>> Because I've already exhausted the options down here, and I thought if they had Team Rocket costumes, they might have other cool stuff.

Lynati> Ouch. Hope you feel better soon.

Guandalug> <<should I lock out>> I vote no, simply because I'm lazy, and I only want to have to check one New Stories page per day. And, if something has been read enough to make the Top Ten, then let it.

Welcome back, Cyborg.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, May 17, 2001 06:28:05 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

*peeks in*

Warpmind> Well - I can't check, but I can set you a password.......... yet it seems you didn't read the text on the main page, did you? NO password (except my own) will work as of now, as all authors are effectively locked out by me to allow some last minute uploads and still keeping a consistent database :)

On a less happy note, I can't get my last update done 'till tomorrow, so it'll be monday before the archive is completely opened for everyone. Sorry for the inconvenience.

*disappears, juggling once again with story-pieces from a lot of different stories*
Guandalug la'Fay - [Guandalug@Gargoyles-fans.org]
Thursday, May 17, 2001 05:39:23 PM
IP: dial-142156.hrz.uni-dortmund.de

*Warpmind enters, grinning sheepishly.*
Hehehe... those mags I got by mistake... I checked my receit. I paid for the five-pack of Oni mags, which came to about ten bucks. I received a seven-pack of H-mangas, which would have cost thrice as much. I'm not complaining EVER! };)

Anyway, enough smugness for now.

Kyryn: Judging by my artistic abilities, a Richter scale.

Aaron: Yeah, yeah, but after seeing one line with a quasi-adult topic, it's kinda complicated to AVOID seeing the immediately next line in an entirely different context. };) (On the topic of clothes, however, you should see my jacket. Then again, you probably have already, if you visited my website when it was up.)

Josh: Thankee, she looks good. (But it's a CS Hayden pic, so who's surprised?) But why did you say Jason Evermore would be so much more difficult to cut out? I'd figure the forestry behind Manxine would be way more complex...

Gside: I'm not sure which is more disturbing - the fact that I have already checked which issues I got in the package, the fact that you can tell the issues apart seemingly offhand (and no, that was no oblique joke), or the fact that I already knew of the content of those classical tomes... And, yes, upon checking, I have issues #8-#14. Oh, and I thought Mike had a tentacle instead of a left hand... how do you break a tentacle? };) Oh, and I urge you to remember Lexington's gesture from a certain TGS episode... where he used both hands and his tail. Dirty Tail Trick, inDEED! };)

Guandalug: Okay, thanks for bringing the archive back up. Now, you have my data there, presumably... I'm sending you an e-mail; I can't seem able to figure out what my password is. (I've tried all l/p combos from Aachen to Zanzibar, and I STILL can't access my account...)

Lynati: *Reads post, stares blankly.* Hurt? My Lynati... injured? *Fzt. Frzzzt. Bzrrrrrrrrrt.* *Bluish smoke begins streaming from both ears, pupils dilate to cover the entire irises.* But... but... this can't happen this close to THe Gathering... *Krakatiblink* *Collapses, gibbering, and a voice breaks through on the speaker system. "The higher brain functions of the entity known as Warpmind de InzanE have temporarily taken a leave of absence."*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, May 17, 2001 04:21:51 PM
IP: mp-216-45-68.daxnet.no

Imzadi: Actually, I just wanted to see _your_ icon. :) I want to use it for a folder I have full of downloaded pictures of beaches, waterparks, and people enjoying them. I get to go to such places so little, it's cool to see them on my screen. :) Thanks for the details about the programs you used and so on, maybe I can rig up something to see just one icon at a time myself. Or if I can't, I'm sure Gubio can when he gets back from Berlin.
Kit
Thursday, May 17, 2001 03:10:30 PM
IP: slip-32-102-11-220.mi.us.prserv.net

Greetings;

Sorry to disappear again but we had a bit of a catastrophe in the lab. We found out that some of the chemicals that we use may have been contaminated right from manufacture. It all started with us receiving an e-mail from the company that certain batches of specific reagents may have been contaminated, and we should check our supplies.

Well at first we thought that the odds that we actually had reagents from that batch was slim, so we didn't give it much thought. That was until Jim, another grad student came rushing out of the freezer with the suspect vial in hand. There to our horror was the suspect batch.

This started a chain of events that ended up with four months of work being suspect. Because of this I have been pouring over data, looking for places where the contamination may have been noticed. Fortunately, it would appear that our sample was fine and our data is valid. Needless to say it has been a tense few weeks.

I'll read the CR and post more later.

Yggdrasil - [eng050599@hotmail.com]
Ontatrio, Canada
Thursday, May 17, 2001 02:47:17 PM
IP: proxy1-external.ktchnr1.on.home.com

1+1=3

**BFTS RP continues**
Lunatic and Lunacy spot the Speed Stars and make preparations to stop them. Lunatic orders his tank, race car, jet, and helicopter to start attacking, while he comfortably remains in his tractor-trailer. Lunacy flies off in her jet attached to a stealth bomber equipped with hundreds of mounted small laser rifles on the underside, carrying a large cannon cannon, a giant rapid fire laser gun, and two generators on her jet.
**END BFTS RP for now**
I did say Lunatic and Lunacy were headmaster transformers with multiple vehicles for each, right?

Damn right shoulder hurts from pulling the rope to start a riding lawn mower. Nope, I won't be mowing the yard today, which means an idiot will probably be mad at me.

Appparantly, the idiot does not know I unlocked the door YET. I just hope things stay that way.

There is a co-worker who bites my head off (figuratively speaking of course) every time I try to talk to her.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Thursday, May 17, 2001 01:48:38 PM
IP: max1-66.cwy.cei.net

Hmm... I should start using Rory again, but I've been in a Corbie kind of mood lately.

I'm posting from work, which I shouldn't do, but the entire tech staff went to an "off site staff meeting" which I suspect is happening at the bar and grill across the street. Not only was I not invited, but I have to stay here to answer their phones during the hour when I would normally be at lunch.

Kinda makes you want to become an evil genius and build a doomsday weapon, then set it off an hour before the deadline you listed with your impossible demands, doesn't it? (maybe that's just me)

Anyway, on to some acutal Gargoyles content. I looked back over one of my unfinished Freelance fan-fics the other day and suddenly realized I knew how to finish it. As a bonus, the end wasn't stupid. That's gotten me to thinking that I want to revive the entire series. I'm thinking about doing some revisions though.

For the 99.99 percent of you who have never read Freelance, it's about a sort of cop/adventurer guy who lives in the Gargoyles universe without being directly related to any of the canon characters. In the first story, he's hired by Maria Chavez to investigate the Quarrymen because she suspects that there's a mole in the police force and she's not getting good information. It sort of goes on like that, where he's always interacting with secondary characters, but never really gets involved in the Gargoyles storyline.

Of course, here's the thing: When I first ran the series it got decent ratings, but only had a very low readership and I never got any feedback. I started to wonder if maybe my concept was too far removed from the stuff that Gargoyles fans were interested in. Among other things, gargoyles only appear for about a combined total of ten minutes of screen time over the course of four episodes.

So, what do ya'll think? How many of you would be interested in reading stories about stuff like what Sevarius does when he's not working for Thailog or somebody, or Illuminati plots that don't involve capturing gargoyles, or the crime syndicates Tony Dracon deals with?
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, May 17, 2001 01:17:55 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Hi!!!
I'm sorry I've been away for so long, but I am in finals and all. Plus I wrote up some responses last week and they got erased!!! And I was so pissed and tired that I didnt write them over again...

Can somebody be so kind as to direct me to the week before last week's CR? Cuz I cant seem to find it in the CR archives....April 29 to May 5 is it? I donno realy, I've lost all notion of time :P

Winterwolf> <<I'm a winterwold now?>> lol Hey! That was an honest typo there, if ya keep poking fun at me I'll get all pouty and call you winterwold from now on till the end of time!!! :P And I missed you too hun! *BIG fluffy HUGZ*

Dreamie> <<Lucky!>> lol I know! Belts?! *shudders* eee :P <<Whoa wait... you actually wear........(Kidding ^_~) >> LOL Yes I do thankyouverymuch! :P

Hey! Puerto Rico's got a beatified Saint, a new Miss Universe and a boxing Champion all in about a month! I think we're doing OK for ourselves! :D
Caliope "The Eternal Lost Girl"
Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:42:23 PM
IP: 136.145.83.198

*The girl in a black trenchcoat enters the room and walks over to a bookcase. She reaches up and gives Momma Cat a scratch behind her ears. When she turns to go to the couch, the small gray cat with only half a tail jumps down and follows her.*

Imzadi: <let alone that I shoul listen to a cat.> My family and I have to all the time... Why should you be spared?
*She hangs her head as she gets a toung-lashing for that _rude_ comment from Momma Cat*
<is a gargoyle hand arranged index-middle-ring/pinky?> I am not exactly sure what you meant by this order, I had always assumed that a gargoyle's hand was like ours but with the pinky cut off. <typing> They would probably type like playing a piano, their first fingers on 'F' and 'J', but not resting, their hands would move more. Just as we can get used to using our 'F' and 'J' fingers for six keys each, they can learn to use their 'S', 'L', 'F' and 'J' fingers for six (or seven) keys each. <flip people off> Our gargoyles from Scotland (and most definately the London Clan) probably use the Brittish version, which looks like the 'V' for victory sign.

**Drug Debate**
Sevarius Jr.:<no one, in their quest for legalization, mentions alcohol> The article I quoted from did, but since I'm sitting on the edge of a kiddie-sized table, with my keyboard resting in a desk drawer, I really did not want to copy out the whole half-page article. (If my Father were not sick, I would be very angry at him for moving MY computer, sorry for the minor rant, this is very uncomfortable) What is really funny though, is that the article did not just mention cigarettes and alchohol, but also called for turning their use into a civil offence, to the same degree that they wanted marijuana to be decriminalized. I like that idea- even though I do have a drink on occasion.
Azrael:<4 points> Good arguments. <it is not the Government's job to legislate our morals> I do not like the idea of 'Big Brother' any more than you do. However, the way legislation is supposed to work (and I did not learn this untill I took a sociology class) is that there are different levels of 'morals' in a society. The first level is the folkways, they are things like 'don't put your elbows on the table' and 'cross the street on a green light', what is sometimes called etiquette. It is not a criminal offense to break them, and many people do, but they are there. The next level of morals are the morays. These are stronger prohibitions, like 'you don't cheat on your husband/wife', though not illegal, few people break them, and those who do are subgect to the censure of their peers. Finally, are the morals that we feel strongly enough about to codify in law. Government does not legislate our morals, rather, our morals become law. The thing with morals, though, is that they change as the generations come and go. This is where problems like the legalization of pot comes in. Laws have to change as morals change, but it is very difficult to change them both. When morals are changing it is difficult, because not everyone changes their views at once. Laws are made to be difficult to change in order to both prevent tyrants and to aid them. This is why here in Canada we have medical mary jane, and are looking to make alcohol and cigarettes illegal, and in the US, you have it the other way around. Different societies, different morals. (We did put into a motion a plan to make cigarettes illegal, but since the US had cheap, leagal, cigaretts, we had to abandon it because of smuggling.)
**End**

Guandalug:<Short Poll> I think that the new stories should all be listed, but that the ones only suitable for adults should only be accessable through the adult web site, since this is how the author listings are handled. Personally, I don't like the hiding of 'adult material' from children. All that is necessary is a warning page, so whoever brings it up will know what is on it and can choose to continue or not. Kids who want to read/see so called 'mature subject matter' will find a way to do so. Also, hiding this sort of thing gives kids even worse ideas (not counting fraud for getting at the stuff) because they have imaginations, and they will imagine worse things if they do not know what is going on.

Well, yesterday I did not feel like posting, so today I have a huge post, and have probably sparked another debate, figures.
Stephanie D 'Cyborg' - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:42:42 AM
IP: modemcable200.80-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca

*stands up from the couch*

Short poll: What do you think - should I lock out pure adult stories (Rating NC-17/X) from the top ten listing and the listing of new stories in the regular fanfiction archive? Just noted that the current top ten is mostly adult stories..... and those won't even be accessible through the regular archive. It's only one more line of code, so the question is: Should I or shouldn't I?

This should not affect the stories listed on an author's page - I'd keep the adult stories there nevertheless. Just 'ban' them from the listings in the regular archive.

*smiles happily and vanishes through that secret door again*
Guandalug la'Fay - [Guandalug@gargoyles-fans.org]
Thursday, May 17, 2001 09:55:31 AM
IP: mailgate.ais-gmbh.de

*Lynati Enters, wrapped in a emerald green robe, and being led by a pair of corgies*

Ooh, I have had such a wealth of new experiences the last couple of days, I thought I�d share�
Well, first off, Tuesday morning I got my very own storage unit, under my own name and my own card and signed by my own hand�(hey, give the first-year college student a break, huh? This is a big step for her.) mm�and then later, I had the fun of breaking not just one, but TWO large mirrors in half. I guess the fourteen years of bad luck I incurred goes a long way to explaining the events of the next night and day. Later that night, while putting the fractured mirrors up in the foundations loft for future use to someone, I acquired my very first bleeding scalp wound. (Klonked my head on a big �ole pipe.) That night's "sleep' was not very restful. (partially due, perhaps, to all my blankets and pillows being in storage.)The next morning, the only thing I had to eat (about a bite and a half of grapefruit) decided to come back up rather quickly (which was good, sorta, because the dry-heaves were getting on my nerves.) hmm� I DID make it onto my plane on time, despite the fact that I had gotten the flight time incorrect by half an hour NOT in my favor (point, tho- only one of the two bags I checked came through, and the missed one is the one with all my personal stuff, as well as the thing I needed to type up and send to my teacher for my final grade last night.) by then, I was actually feeling a bit better, so you can imagine how the sudden vomiting about 45 minutes into the flight surprised me. Not as bad as it could have been, as being sick goes; the second time however, was, as I couldn�t seem to stay awake, and my forehead and ears felt on fire. Roaring, bubbling, and greyness. For a time, I wasn�t sure if I was actually being sick again, or dreaming that I was sick; but the presence of the nice flight crew people (among other things) lead me to believe that I had been. I cannot say for certain that this was my first experience being sick on a plane, but I CAN say for certain that this was the first time I had to be taken off a plane in a wheelchair. Well, my stepmother gets me to the hospital (after the fun of finding out the hard way that the really close clinic-place no longer exists) and I wind up there for over six hours. I also have the joy of my first CATscan. (*feels rather JTHM fillerbunny-ish*), and in honor of the rest of my hospital experience, I have decided that my life-quote is as follows from the question I asked the doctors.

�Umm, excuse me, but is there an actual *reason* why there is a tube sticking out of my arm?�

no, not an IV.I�ve had those before. Just a three-inch long tube, filled with my own blood, hanging out of my arm like a detrenched vein. There reason for it? In case they had to give me pain medication.
�
�I was dizzy, yes. I was nauseous, yes. I was unable to keep myself fully awake for more than two minutes at a time; this all is true.
BUT I WAS NOT IN PAIN UNTIL THEY PUT A FREAKIN� TUBE IN MY ARM!
�and yeah, they took my pants, too.
Results? No internal bleeding or nothing; just a small head injury, and it�s attached list of things to do, such as no strenuous labor, and having to be woken up every three hours to make sure I don�t go into a coma or anything. I finally got to eat again at 12:15 that night after not having eaten since 8 am. (and yeah, I kept it down this time.)
So, if any of the mass of you out there who are NOT on head-trauma probation, I would appreciate it if one of you ate a non-clear-broth food product in my name. (oooh, but I may actually be allowed crackers by the end of today!� :P )
Oh, and in case you were wondering, I couldn�t fall back asleep after my step-mom woke me up at 4 am, hence the early-morning post.

*tries to think of a way to blame Valentine for this, as goes the current trend�*

<Neil Gaimen News> I remember that short story. It�s in the �Smoke and Mirrors� collection, among other things. I hope they do a good interpretation; too many things get sugared up in the name of �popularity�.

#Angel Spoilees#
I actually MISSED both Buffy and Angel the other night, what with my TV being in storage and all; but I DID read the blurb in the TV guide for next weeks ep, and the mention of (what I am guessing is) that last scene that has everyone feeling all ooky�and, all you Host fans, he IS not gone the way of the buffalo. At least, not yet. �Just so yall�s know.

Ooh, and I finally got to read �Callahan�s Key�, too. (*mumbles something about the Erin space program.*)

Mkay� �s all for now.
*stumbles off in a lame attempt to walk a strait line, in search of more chicken broth*

Lynati (the-only-*mildly*-concussed)
Thursday, May 17, 2001 07:07:43 AM
IP: 207.226.219.84

Feelin lazy. I should be studying for physics, but I think I'll wait until after South Park and dinner. I mean, I can't study before an ALL NEW EPISODE OF TIM-MAY!

And now I'm in a foul mood because my roommate didn't bother to tell me he wasn't cooking until AFTER all the stores and eateries in the area closed. So I probably won't eat until tomorrow...grrr...

For the benefit of Kit and a few others, I think there's a bit of confusion about what's on the icons site. Those are four pictures, screen shots of my machine. When I make an icon in photoshop, I have to boot into OS X to view it in its 128x128 glory. Then I take a picture of all the icons together. If I wanted a picture of just your icon by itself, then I'd have to take a picture seperately, or maybe a picture of the icon process from photoshop. I *COULD* do that, but this is much easier and its pretty easy to tell which icon is "yours".

Hey, and if you want an icon made, do me a HUGE favor and put it on a simple background (like 1 color).

Kit: That said, why do just want to see your icon?

Coyote: Your page didn't work. Please send me your artwork in an email or over instant messenger. Rain belongs to The Barracuda, one of my favorite fanfic authors. He's also responsible for most of the other fanfic.jpg icons, and you can see his artwork and his characters in the latest Avalon Mists issue. Ravyn's? Was Ravyn's the OTHER garg in the Kit pic? I don't think I can do that one, she wasn't in the foreground. Oh wait, was Ravyn's that other pic you sent me? I seem to recall looking at that picture and saying "yeah, RIGHT", probably because the background was too complicated to remove. Send me your pic of her again and maybe that'll jog my memory.

Warpmind: Your icon was a b*tch to make. Just in case you cared. 8-) That whole background thing is a b*tch. I took one look at your knight and said "thank you, no."

Azrael: You made two #3 points. Oops? As for the rest of your points, I agree wholeheartedly. <>: I'm a republican, and I think he's a schmuck.

Gside: <<You mean you aren't?>>: You better not be at the gathering, programmer-boy. Or I'm gonna work you! 8-) <<a variant of the dirty tail trick>>: Would you have to be pretty close to someone to use that? And second, what does that have to do with flipping people off? Doesn't sound like a rude enough gesture, considering some might be turned on by it. 8-)

Guandalug: I dunno, even if its not ready yet, it looks pretty good and I like the new functionality. Maybe I'll celebrate by adding the opening chapters of my own fic...

You�re going to die very badly.
-The bad guy, "No Escape"

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley (2.5 more days!), CA, US of A
Thursday, May 17, 2001 06:04:10 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

*walks in through a hidden door behind the bar*

Yes, indeed - the Gargoyles Fanfiction Archive is mostly back.

*mixes himself a drink*

FireStorm> <<HOLY S@#$&! The GFW is back up AND the adult.gargoyles-fans.org actually asks for a password again!>>
2 changes, one reason: An upgrade of the main webserver together with a long due configuration-check. And the fanfiction-part of the adult archive has been updated accordingly as well (similar to the main archive)

Vashkoda, Imzadi> Thanx a lot, but I'm not quite done. Right now the archive only holds all stories posted up to January (I think), and even has a few bugs that were pointed out to me but never fixed in my online copy. I will add the missing stories I can find and fix the already known flaws. Hopefully tomorrow, but in the worst case at monday I will open up the archive for authors (both already registered and new ones).

A note to all authors out there (you'll get this via email as well): Some of you had multiple entries not only in the database but in the password-file as well. As those passwords are one-way-encrypted I cannot tell you which one is active. I will shrink the password-file, leaving only the first password of every signed up author. Unfortunately this might lead to some authors being unable to connect to the archive. Simply mail me your userdata and temporary password, and I'll set it anew. Please excuse such inconveniences.

One more thing: Even though I tested the new archive, the moving to the new location and some 'last minute changes' might introduce some problems. Please mail me with as much informations about the problem as possible and I'll fix it ASAP.

May the winds be with you, and goes praise to all the authors out there who filled the empty shell such an archive would be without them.

*bows deeply and walks over to the couch, sitting down and enjoying his drink*
Guandalug la'Fay - [Guandalug@gargoyles-fans.org]
Thursday, May 17, 2001 05:20:58 AM
IP: mailgate.ais-gmbh.de

I thought I was free, but not quite yet. Tomorrow I have to go to Rutgers amazingly early, partially because of the eden down time, partially because I did rather poorly on the exam, and partially because I wrote back after missing the first makeup. And I still don't believe that I will to much better.

Imzadi> <<If someone suggested *I* was a cat walking across the keyboard>>: You mean you aren't?

Revel> <<why do you ask?>>: I compulsively wear bandannas. I currently have 11 in rotation. Today's plaid, tomorrow's Budweiser lizards (a gift from my grandmother). And besides, a lilac tie dye bandanna would ruin the mood of an all black wardrobe.

Warpmind> <<a five-pack of CO-ED SEXXTACY>>: The line I rmember most from that: "This is so embarrasing." I believe it's used multiple times each issue. Did you get number 11, with the listing of the four ancient works of literature?
<<no fapping where Mike is involved>>: If you make sure to break his left hand, we should be safe.

Fire Storm> <<The GFW is back up>>: Not to mention that it's Guandalug's version.

Imzadi> <<Which one works>>: The first one. You don't want to also insult Rev. Attila.
<<Do gargoyles flip people off with the middle finger?>>: I vote they use a variant of the dirty tail trick.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:04:06 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

*******Drug Legalization Stuff*******

Here are my feelings on the matter:

1) A "Drug" is defined as any substance, natural or synthetic, that alters one's mood-state and/or impares judgment.

2) Drugs are not, in and of themselves, responsible for what anyone does. It is possible to take drugs in such a way that you do not even disturb anyone else, let alone do any damage. This is not to say everyone does, but it can be done.

3) The "most" harmful drugs, as defined above, are already leagal. Alcohol and Cigarettes kill far more (especially Alcohol) than do illegal drugs PRECICELY BECAUSE they are leagal. While it is harder for a teenager to get beer than coccaine, it is painfully easier for an "Adult" to get beer than a membership at Blockbuster. Therefore any idiot 21 or older can get smashed and then get in his car and kill a family of four. Yes, driving while drunk is illegal, that doesn't stop people, and we usually let them off very lightly, too lightly actually.

3) This sort of ties in with #2. We let drug offenders off very lightly the first couple of times. We incarcerate them and, in many cases, send them to rehab (which doesn't work if its forced.) Then (in many states) on time number three, we throw them in jail for life, well, forty years anyway. This makes no sense, this would be like getting sent to thirty minutes of detention twice, and then expelled from school for smoking in the bathroom. What we ought to do is punish as fully premeditated any offense commited while on any drug. That is to say (as I've said before) than the drunk who kills a family of four because he was drinking and driving should be prosocuted for first degree murder, not the wimpy "unintintional manslaughter" that we do now.

Ultimately, it comes down to personal responsibity. The government should not attempt to control our personal lives. This is not to say it doesn't, just that it shouldn't. We call most governments that control the personal lives of their citizenry Dictatorships. We consider them bad form. How close do we really want to get to that line?

I like George W. as much as the next Rebulican (and more than some, actually) but I don't want him to tell me what I can eat, when I can sleep, or which religion I must adhere to.
Azrael - [azrael_2099@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:57:56 PM
IP: 63.170.182.2

Apologies for the double post ... I'm panicked right now!! ANYONE who has a saved copy of one of my pics from the 2000 Internet Fan Reunion called "I Want To Love You Forever," PLEASE send me a copy! Apparently someone who isn't me deleted it from my Geocities space, and I can't find the hard copy! MUCH THANKS in advance! :)
Coyote the Bando - [tazcaddy@vivavelocity.com]
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:20:12 PM
IP: 64.243.214.81

Josh: Just been checking out your recent new icons ... I'm just curious, who *ELSE* did a character named Rain? (click link for mine if you're curious)

Also ... I see Kit's icon from my work, how soon should we expect Ravyn's? ;)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:14:40 PM
IP: 64.243.214.81

Almost forgot.

Imzadi: Nice job on the icon of me. Question- how do I get to a page with just one icon on it instead of several? Or does your site not have that set up? Just curious.
Kit again
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:15:15 PM
IP: slip-32-102-10-164.mi.us.prserv.net

Aaron: LDD doesn't have a website that I know of- try an Austin phone book. BTW, is there a particular reason you wanted an Austin shop as opposed to a San Antonio one?
Kit
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:08:46 PM
IP: slip-32-102-10-164.mi.us.prserv.net

YES! I finished my 3-hour geology final in 30 minutes! Yes, I did ALL the problems, thank you very much. Technically, it wasn't a three hour final (the prof basically told us that if the final took three hours, we had the reasoning capacity of bar stools), but I finished it in half an hour! One more notch on my belt o' engineering classes!

Okay, I have TWO responses to Momma Cat, and I'm not sure which I should use. Here they are:

Momma Cat: <>: You completely missed my meaning. Lemme explain. When someone said that Todd Jensen was really a cat walking on the keyboard, I took it to mean that his writing was a random and meaningless act, as in walking randomly across the keyboard. You could just as easily say "human walking across the keyboard (ouch!)" or "turtle walking across the keyboard". I mean no disrespect to cats at all. <<go clean your room>>: My room is immaculate, thank you very much.

OR

Momma Cat: They may have told me to deposit my sanity when I joined CR, but they don't make enough crack in Colombia in a year to convince me that you are a cat and not just the owner of a cat, let alone that I should listen to a cat.

Well, CR? Which one works?

Momma Cat's comment about how hard it is to type really got me thinking. Demona must have a hell of a time switching between 10 and 8 fingers every 12 hours if she needs to use a computer, or hell, anything else that requires fine-tuned finger operation...sorry, my mind just left the CR to go hang in the gutter again. Now then, with four fingers, what are the corresponding fingers on a human hand? I mean, its easy to see which finger corresponds to the thumb, but is a gargoyle hand arranged index-middle-ring/pinky? Or is it index-middle/ring-pinky? Do gargoyles flip people off with the middle finger? Or do they use a more ancient method, like the thumbs-up (which, in some cultures, means the same thing as the birdie)? Would a gargoyle wear a wedding band on the middle finger? And please don't answer my questions with "those are human customs". I know that! This is a thought experiment!

Spacebabie: <>: Well, my mom is 45 and she still gets carded (she loves it!) and since I've never seen you before, yes I can believe it. <<Josh...come here and lets enjoy some Tiramisu>>: No. I don't like Tiramisu. But that reminds me of my favorite line in "Sleepless in Seattle"

Tom Hanks' Friend: Tiramisu.
Tom Hanks: Tiramisu? What's that?
Tom Hanks' Friend: You'll find out.
Tom Hanks: Some woman's gonna want me to do it to her and I'm not gonna know what it is!!

Revel: <<mostly car keys>>: My laptop, once. Boy did THAT suck.

Warpmind, Kit/Doug, anyone else who cares: Updates to the CR icons! Click on the "other" pic after my name takes to a wonderful world called kicktothenuts.com

Kyryn: <<someone is going to realize just how many ducks I've walked off with>>: And probably won't care. Who needs ducks, anyway? <<but is that a minor scale or a major scale?>>: I don't think that was the pun he was looking for. 8-)

Aaron: <>: I vote to make that a CR trend, since he's not here and can't put up a fight. Anyone with me? <<to quote Chris Rock>>: Somehow, I doubt quoting Chris Rock to SJ is gonna make him see your side of the argument. <<cut their stuff with...rat poison>>: I can't figure out why anyone would do this? Its really not smart to KILL your clients. Hell, even the Tobacco industry is researching ways to make their cigarettes less harmful so people can smoke longer. <<normal-seeming>>: Right. Attractive. That's what I said. 8-) Seriously, though, I agree. Anyone who goes to Gathering in costume is OUT for these purposes. I nominate myself to deal with the execs 8-). <<I'm never going to live down thinking you were jailbait>>: No one EVER lives that mistake down, trust me. <<my summer wear is black jeans and black T-shirts, and I do okay>>: Perhaps the heat is going to your brain, and that's why you're not Disney's target demographic. Seriously, though, how on earth can you wear black in a Texas Summer!?

FS: <>: Seeing Satan in Detroit wasn't enough of a giveaway? <<adult.gargoyles-fans.org actually asks for a password again!>>: Sigh. Now I'll have to come up with an account to get my dirty demona story fix. Oh well. Better than relying on my own imagination...or is it?! 8-)

Guandalug: THANK YOU! YOU RULE!

Windows� 98(n) - 32-bit extensions and graphical shell for a
16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.
-Unknown

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley (for 3 more days!), CA, US of A
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 09:48:13 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

DPH> Ah, sorry. I've been to Arizona but never to Arkansas, so it was the first thing to come to mind when I saw AR. Well, we don't have to pay a thing, here. Again, maybe you should start a movement to get the law changed so there's no fee. And if you ever find out how to get on the free federal list, please pass on the info. ;)

Guandalug> Congrats on getting the new archive up on the Fans site, and thanks for all the work you put into it!
Vashkoda
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 07:17:06 PM
IP: dyn-118-136.res.aecom.yu.edu

HOLY S@#$&! The GFW is back up AND the adult.gargoyles-fans.org actually asks for a password again!

I KNEW that hell had frozen over!

First i get a job and now this! It is the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 06:58:36 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Well, it's finally happened. I'm going to get involved in a debate. I blame Gunjack for this.

SJ> Okay, you're saying that if it was legalized, the bottom wouldn't fall out of the illegal narcotics market? A pack of cigarettes, even with the outrageous taxes on them, isn't much above four dollars. It's the illegality that makes for the mark up. You can buy a pound of heroin for something like $50 in Afghanistan. I can't even calculate what the retail for that much is in the US.

So why don't we legalize, and bankrupt the Columbian blow lords? Is it because the Bush family owns a drug company that has been trying for *decades* to synthesize the active ingredient in pot, with very little success? Is it because there's simply too much money in it? And I don't mean illegal money. The War on Drugs funds a heck of a lot of law enforcement officers, the people who make their equipment, prosecutors, probation officers, defense attorneys (and, by extension, me) and of course, building new prisons. Prisons where we incarcerate a lot of non-violent drug offenders, often for longer terms then convicted murderers get, at the cost of something like seventy grand apiece, annually. We could put those people in rehab for a third of that, and it would help more of them.

Basically, not only are we not winning the war on drugs, it *isn't winable*. Because, to quote Chris Rock, "People want to get high." This is, pretty much, what Traffic, (A movie I know you hated) was about. (My favorite character in Traffic, btw, was the drug dealer played by Migel Ferrar. He was the voice of reason)

Yes, alcohol does some bad things. But, there is a reasonable structure in place for it's distribution. You're not supposed to sell alcohol to minors. People who do go out of business. But illegal drug dealers can sell to anyone, including grade school students. (They can also, btw, cut their stuff with any number of nasty things, like rat poison, something they couldn't do if they operated legally. This is why people die from taking what they thought was ecstacy, and it turns out to be something totally different) Repeated polls have found high school students saying it would be easier for them to acquire illegal narcotics then it would be for them to score a case of beer. So who's doing a better job of keeping the minors from getting wasted?

But that's just my opinion... I could be wrong. ;)

Doug> Cool. Many thanks. Do they have a website, or should I look for an Austin phone book?

Josh> I think you're misunderstanding. (Which is okay, you said you weren't sure) And while Lexy is cute, what I said had nothing to do with being attractive. I was, only half-jokingly, saying that maybe we should let the more *normal-seeming* people in the fandom front for us. Because, let's face it, some people, like me, just *aren't* Disney's target demographic.

Spacebabie> I'm never going to live down thinking you were jailbait, am I? ;) <<Can you believe it?>> I didn't know you and Vinnie were related? ;)

Kyryn> Good idea. I'll keep that in mind.

Warpy> <<You did that on purpose, you fiend>> Um, did what? That's a quote from Dr. Ian Malcolm. (The good one in the book, not the horrible Jeff Goldblum one from the movie) Besides, I my summer wear is black jeans and black T-shirts, and I do okay.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 06:30:02 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

Greg>Whew! That's a relief! *sighs* 'Course, it's not gonna matter with me since I'm going to college this fall and I don't think I'll have a TV in my apartment. Damn it! :(
Beth H.
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 05:56:22 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

The 5th Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles Writers Competition and Music Video Contest is STILL accepting entries and will be until May 25, 2001!!!
Send us your FILK, "Gargoyles" themed Music Videos, POETRY, STAR TREK CROSSOVERS, SCREENPLAYS THE WRITERS WISH THEY'D Never WRITTEN, UNSEEN ADVENTURES OF THE PACK, TALES OF OBERON'S CHILDREN or ORIGINAL (non DISNEY) GARGOYLES SHORT STORY.

WINNERS NEED NOT BE PRESENT TO ENTER!
Winning entries will be read at the Gathering!

Join the fun and wow your fellow fans with your creativity!
Click my name for all the details!
kathy - [g2001_writers@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 04:38:41 PM
IP: rr-56-13-145.atl.mediaone.net

Did Madoc know the location of Illuminati hq, Nimue's hidding place or Lapin's niece?
Altron
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 04:32:20 PM
IP: 5-pool7.ras12.ilchi.tii-dial.net

****Kyryn ducks into the room.****

Warps><For some reason, I always get the proportions way off scale.>Ah, but is that a minor scale or a major scale? ;)

****Kyryn ducks out of the room.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 02:52:13 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

*Warpmind enters, looking halfway smug, halfway puzzled.*
Went into town today... ordered my plane tickets; turns out there's a three-month open return. Fun. I also went to Valhall (bookstore, specializing in imported comics, books and roleplaying materials) and got what I believe to be the rest of the Oh! My Goddess books, a Gon book and a five-pack of Oni comics. So why the HECK did I unpack the parcel here to find that I had the missing books of Oh! MY Goddess, a Gon book, and a five-pack of CO-ED SEXXTACY??? Hey, I'm not complaining (yet; haven't removed the plastic wrapping on that five-pack yet), but I think someone is undergoing a minor fit right now... :/ I'm just glad it's not someone I know... oh, and just so you know, I'm probably not returning those mangas, anyway. };) On another note, I tried drawing a dragon last night. For some reason, I always get the proportions way off scale. Pun intended.

Aaaanyway, to arms! To arms! (Two legs, two legs!)

Josh: Actually, Weird Dreams. Not world domination, but we're collaborating on that one.

Aaron: I refrained from commenting on Beth's pubertal problems, but... "Black is actually best in heat"?
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*Rubs temples, jaw trembles, eyes water* You did that on purpose, you fiend... you realize that I will have to dela out some serious verbal punishment at The Gathering, right? };)

Azrael/Greg Bishansky: *Makes loud Trump of Doom*

Gside: I probably could find that list... I'll snoop around if I run out of epitaphs... and please, no fapping where Mike is involved. Or what, Valentine? };)

Well, that about concludes the post... with a quote.
"In war, it doesn't matter who's right. It only matters who's left."
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 01:54:14 PM
IP: mp-217-239-8.daxnet.no

It's official that I am starting to take over the 'net. How? I've been promoted to moderator of a Yahoo Group, in addition to being moderator of another group.

This will be a short post because my dad locked me out of this room and I broke in.

Imzadi - What triggered my comment about matrys is your quote from Patton.

1st, I live in ARKANSAS, not arizona. There is a state law recently passed banning telemarketers from calling you if you pay the state some money. During the argument, some group claimed that there was a FEDERAL list that you could join for FREE.

That's all. If I don't show up tomorrow, well, you can guess what happenned.
DPH - [dph_of+rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 01:02:54 PM
IP: max1-19.cwy.cei.net

****Kyryn walks into the room.****

Aaron><Hey, you wouldn't happen to have the name of that place you and Kit rented those Team Rocket costumes from, would you? A-kon's coming up, and I was thinking about being somebody besides Kaji.> You might also want to ask Elin Winkler. She and Dan did Team Rocket at A-Kon 10. She might know where to pick up a costume in San Antonio.

SJ> "Angel" comments: I'm surprised that you made no reference to that truly awful 'com-shuk' pun that they set up.

Spacebabie>Ah, yes. This should be one of the Laws of Science Fiction/Fantasy writing: In alternate universe/dimensional travel a physicist should always have the answers if the magician does not.

Later, All!

****Kyryn ducks out of the room. (One of these days someone is going to realize just how many ducks I've walked off with. ;) ****

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:53:01 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

YOU! *points at DC* You dare prevent me from posting yesterday! *Stuffs plastic ball filled with clorine gas down DC's throat and watches him choke and melt*

Sorry for that but that was just plain rude. I usually never have problems but it was just one of them days. Now I total for got what I was going to say from last time so, oh well.

Gside- the bandana was maroon and black, why do you ask?

Josh- actually I find a different Patton quote that aplies more to every day life. "The greatest camouflage in the world is plain sight" I can't tell you how many times I think I have lost something that was right in front of me, mostly car keys.

Sorry for the short one.
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:39:38 AM
IP: ac8b47a6.ipt.aol.com

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Anonymous
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:32:22 AM
IP: ac8b47a6.ipt.aol.com

Won't say anything much about Buffy and Angel since the points have been discused but I will weep

Joss How could you!!!!!!

SPOILERISH SPECULATION
I know houw there going to get home, and if you all double checked you woud know too

The Writing is on the wall

BTW the above is a hint

:::Heads over to the Tea/Coffee table of peace:: Lexy, Josh, SJ come here and lets enjoy some Tiramisu from Carabas

We all went to Carabas last night and I got carded. Can you believe it? I know Aaron will believe it, but can you believe the waiter was hitting on me?

Legalizing Weed>>>I believe the Supreme court had no right to overthrow the right of using marijuna for medical purposes. It should be the individual states desiscion.
I still believe that crack,cocaine,heroine,LSD and other drugs should still be illegal.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:05:29 AM
IP: user-37kapfh.dialup.mindspring.com

Imzadi:<If someone suggested *I* was a cat walking across the keyboard, asses would be kicked.> I resemble that remark, and I am highly insulted that you would not take such a compliment if it were offerred. Do you have any idea how hard it is to type? That's why I usually just read beside Stephanie and Curly++. Young Man, I really think you owe us cats an appology, and then go clean your room.
Momma Cat
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 08:59:35 AM
IP: modemcable200.80-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca

At the last second, in the waning hours of May 14, 2001, I registered someone for G2k1. Then I told her she better go or she owes me $40. 8-)

Tonight, I saw Stabbing Westward at the Pound, a venue roughly the size of my apartment. It was SOOOO awesome. But they mostly played new stuff and only played 2 songs from Wither, Blister, Burn and Peel (my favorite album). Nonetheless, it was a good concert. Apex Theory opened. Not bad...but their vocalist needs some lessons.

Todd Jensen: <<Greg Weisman in disguise>>: That would explain your ability to win Gargoyles trivia contests. <<cat on the keyboard>>: Ya know that quote "a thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters given infinite time could write the works of shakespeare"? Well, when I want to insult people's writings I say things like "ten monkeys, 20 minutes". If someone suggested *I* was a cat walking across the keyboard, asses would be kicked. 8-)

Daniel Johnson: <<you don't NEED evidence when you can just invent it>>: So true.

DPH: <<martyrs>>: Huh? Where did that come from? Who did I martyr? <<How can the US be considered a free market economy>>: What do tax loopholes have to do with being a free market economy? <<telemarketers>>: I just hang up on them. When I conquer the world, they'll be shot. In the stomach. So they can bleed to death.

Lexy: <>: Actually, it sounded more like whining to me, that's what got me so offended. Strong doesn't bother me. But thank you for accepting my apology.

Aaron: <<Disney may take one look at us and decide they *don't* want us>>: I'm not sure this is your point, but it's not my place to judge who's attractive in here (or yours). However, I think we should all hide when the Disney Execs come by except for the REALLY attractive members of the fandom (of both genders). Maybe we can get a little prostitution going on...bring gargoyles back in exchange for a night with the Gathering Attendee of your choice! 8-)

Stephanie: <<People with tiny minds are the real kids>>: What's funny is that kids are more open-minded than any other age group. Impressionable minds and all that stuff...

SJ: <<People would drink gasoline>>: Hey, it smells great! <<decriminalizing drugs>>: No, I'm just in favor of decriminalizing weed. Anything stronger should stay punishable. I have no doubt in my mind that weed is far less addictive and dangerous than alcohol (and I don't even smoke it). <<no one, in their quest for legalization, mentions alcohol>>: I have NEVER made an argument for legalization without mentioning alcohol. Its the single most logical argument to make! <<severe problems, worse than (or at the least as bad as) alcoholism?>>: No, I don't think the case is that bad. I've never known incredible crimes to be committed while under the influence of pot. I think we could handle it a lot better than we do alcohol. <<Robert Downey Jr>>: Wasn't smoking weed. He was on something far more intense. <<you probably wouldn't understand where I was trying to go with it anyway>>: Don't even think about insulting my intelligence like that. I'm a damn bright guy (Berkeley Engineering and all), and if you finish your train of thought I'm sure I'll follow it. As it stands, I think I follow where you were going with your argument. But you're forgetting that Jericho is a FAN-based concept and has little if anything to do with the actual show. It is highly unlikely than some random Disney exec would notice that Jericho wasn't a principle cast character and inquire about him, let alone that an explanation of him would go beyond "its a fan's idea of what the son of Goliath and Demona would look like." <<didn't the Messiah just come in here to post against me?>>: No, he posted against me. <<And reality is unpleasant>>: Amen. <<the focus was probably on Josh>>: Probably?! Mr. Weisman outright told me my actions were outrageous (of course, there's no such thing as outrageous actions in a CR, since there are no *actions*, but apparently Messiah's don't care about little factoids like that). I really don't think anyone said anything about you. You were just being your usual argumentative self. I was the one behaving out of line.

Ya know, this is the second time Greg W has come out strongly against one of my posts. The last time was in the S8 room when I railed on Shakespeare (I really do think that he's a hack). Greg W and I don't see eye to eye on anything, apparently, which is fine by me. But so far I haven't really gotten the impression that he strongly dislikes me. Now, if I get to gathering and he walks up to me (I'll be the one wearing the shirt that says "Imzadi") and spits in my face, then I'll know. Otherwise, its kinda fun knowing I can get his goat like that 8-) I guess growing up around celebrities has really deadened me to the whole "oh my god its Greg Weisman!" phenomenon. Treat him like anyone else, I say.

Azrael: <<wacky Californians>>: I am not wacky. 8-P. You're wacky. I'm normal. <<it is not the Government�s job to legislate our morals>>: But they do anyway. <<it should be first degree murder>>: You should vote me in for world leader, because that's near the top of my list of things to do when I take over!

Friends don't let friends use Windows.
-Unknown

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 05:13:33 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Warpmind> <<Grazie, thanks, and Bless ye, laddie>>: Not a problem in the least. I ran across it recently looking for the original version of the life of Riley quote.
<<Haven't played Baldur's Gate>>: I'm sure you could find the collected quotes somewhere on the web.
<<That sounds eerily like an anagram>>: No o for Anton.
<<There are SOOOO many things I could say to that "fap, fap, fap" comment>>: And they'd all be absolutely true. About Mike, that is.

Aaron> <<Black is actually best in heat>>: I think it has something to do with helping to induce convection currents.

Since both eden and remus kick me off when I try to connect with ftp or telnet, I'm not sure when I'll get to rotate the mp3. Whatsoever shall you do? Just ignore me and my odd music, is my guess.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 02:48:12 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Buffy & Angel: Haven't watched them yet, but I'll get to it soon. :)

Aaron: Lucy In Disguise With Diamonds in Austin on South Congress. The place in Austin for all one's costume needs.

Imzadi: Alright, cool. Glad you got it. You're welcome.
Doug
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 01:19:27 AM
IP: slip-32-102-11-17.mi.us.prserv.net

Beth> No, Buffy is moving to UPN, cause WB wasn't willing to pay as much for the show as UPN was. SO, they're misleading people to think it's being canceled.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:23:11 AM
IP: dialin-12-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

*Buffy Spoilers*

Please tell me I didn't see this: Did I see the words SERIES FINALE at the end of tonight's episode!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
Beth H.
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:19:43 AM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Okay everyone, start listening for the Trump of Doom...

Greg and I agreed on something, that's gotta be one of the signs of the Appocolypse...
Azrael - [azrael_2099@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:16:58 AM
IP: 63.170.182.2

Rodlox > if you mean the writing contests for G2001, you can send entries right to me if you want ... there's also a hotmail address that can be found from the Gathering website. Still time to enter!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:12:39 AM
IP: 24-187.075.popsite.net

Azrael> I agree with you. Hey, we finally agree on something. Cool ;)
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:53:34 PM
IP: dialin-12-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Howdy, All

I�m gonna have to do something about my computer at home. It�s a piece of crap Compaq, but it has a) the DSL modem in it, and b) the Prodigy software. This would not normally be a problem, but I don�t have another copy of the software, and I can�t figure any way to move it to another computer. The DSL modem wouldn�t be a problem, but I�m gonna have to find a way to get the software to my better computer.

Marijuana Legalization: I personally believe this is an issue for the State governments. If those wacky Californians want it legal, let them. If Texans don�t they (we) don�t have to. Not everything is a question for the Federal Government. The United States should have no official opinion on drugs whatever, it is not the Government�s job to legislate our morals. I personally don�t approve of drug use. That doesn�t mean it�s any more wrong than, say, drinking or smoking. Of which I also don�t approve, by the way. This is also not to say that I�m going to condemn you for doing any of them. I think the only law as far as �mood altering substances,� any thing from alcohol to LSD, should be to prosecute any offense done under the influence as though it were completely premeditated. That is to say, if you�re drunk and you hit another car and kill the passengers, it should be first degree murder. You can drink (or shoot up, or snort, or whatever) all you want, just be prepared for the consequences.

Azrael - [azrael_2099@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:48:34 PM
IP: 63.170.182.2

WARNING; UPCOMING ANGEL GRIEF
Sorry for busting in like this but I have to get this off my chest.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!

<sniff><sob> I really liked the Host. I hope he isn't gone for good. sigh

Apart from that pretty awesome episodes of both Buffy and Angel. I hope Dawn survives.

<fades back into the shadows>

Infinity
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:24:41 PM
IP: 208.158.57.213

First things first:
**BUFFY / ANGEL SPOILERS***
BUFFY: Good episode tonight. I liked the stuff between Glory and Ben, and the problems of sharing one body. Interesting dynamic there, and somehow satisfying when Ben finally understands that siding with Glory is the only way to save his hide.
All of the stuff with Buffy and Willow in the mindscape was a bit surreal, with overtones of last year's bizarre final episode. The pillow scene was particularly disturbing.
Spike, as usual, proves that he's the best thing on the show, even if he is a supporting player. No one quite works the comedy as well as him. He and Xander do make a surprisingly delicious tag team. The bit with the Doc (Joel Grey) was odd, and just didn't feel right, considering that we've only seen the guy...what, one time before? No surprise he's a Glory loving demon, but it appears as if we'll be seeing more of him soon.
The final revelation, to be answered next week, is that Buffy must kill Dawn. Will it happen? I'm betting the farm that it won't.
Good and Bad:
*Great: Spike's attempts to prove that Glory and Ben are one and the same.
*Infuriatingly Bad: Willow has become a reject from Mage: The Ascension. Seriously! Why are they making her into this superhero? She has become, as one writer puts it, "Marvel Girl". If I wanted the X-Men, I'd read a comic book. Keep Willow on a respectable power scale, thank you.
*Great: Buffy's realization that she cannot win and the anguish it causes her. Even though this is a genre show and thus gets no respect from anyone outside of those who normally watch genre shows, I feel that Ms. Gellar is truly justified in being nominated for that Emmy a few months ago.
*Bad: The fight with Doc, which just seemed out of place.
*Good: Glory fighting with Ben to eliminate her human feelings, and then seducing him to the dark side.

ANGEL: Okay, this is it. Quite possibly one of, if not the, best episodes ever made.
However, the way this show ended made me sick to my stomach. You'll know why if you saw it, if you didn't.....

As mediocre as I thought the whole Pylia storyline was last week, this week it kicked things up a notch. This was one of the funniest shows, bar none, that they've ever produced, and it had some genuine emotional moments. All of Angel's scenes with Fred were very well done, and there seems to be some genuine chemistry there. It's a Beauty and the Beast kind of vibe I'm getting. She seems to becoming enamored with him (after all, he is her knight in shining armor), and he seems to be softening to her. Will she be a possible recurring character....maybe a love interest? Potentially, if she survives next week! And she just might, since Joss has said: "And we'll have somebody showing up who will become a regular next season." Methinks Wilfreda will become a regular!
The humor was dead on. From Angel seeing his reflection in the mirror, to Cordy's Las Vegas showgirl outfit, to the Groosalugg, to the meeting with Krevlorneswath's mother (and what a woman she is!)
Plus we get some incredibly cool bits. We find out a possible origin for Wolfram and Hart, we get to see Angel morph into something that looks like it walked off of the set of Dario Argento's "Demons", and the final scene.....the final scene was hard for me. Cause I'm a big fan of the Host. And if the final scene means what I think it means.....heavy. Real heavy. And somewhat depressing, but it adds some damn emotional impact to the story.

So big thumbs up to both, Angel especially.

Speaking of Angel, the WB, deciding not to let two good things slip away, has renewed Angel for another season on their network. Here's hoping that they'll still allow crossovers.
***END REVIEWS***

Some Entertainment Tidbits:

Roswell fans: The bad news--the WB has NOT listed Roswell anywhere in it's upcoming fall lineup. Not for the fall, not as a mid-season replacement.
The good news: The show could be come a "free-agent", and UPN has already expressed at least a mild interest in acquiring the show should it become available.

Some concept art for the upcoming Ghost Rider movie has hit the web. To see a really cool pic of the Rider himself, done by one of the best horror artists ever, Bernie Wrightson, click on my name.

X-Files fans: For those of you still watching the X-Files (I know I quit earlier this season), there's a good chance that the CSM will be returning next season.
If there is a next season.
Who's with me in saying that the show jumped the shark a LOOOOONG time ago?

In further UPN news, the Bryan Singer's "Battlestar Galactica" may get picked up by UPN this fall. The network already has the 5th Trek show (called, I believe, "Federation") in the works. I'm hearing that Scott Bakula will be on board as the new Trek captain, so perhaps the show won't totally reek of heinousity.

In Neil Gaiman news, David Goyer, who has written such films as Blade, will write and direct the screenplay for Neil Gaiman's short story "Murder Mysteries". For those not in the know, the story is about a detective, of sorts, trying to solve a murder. The hitch? The place is heaven, and the characters are all angels.

And finally, Ewan MacGregor has announced in an interview recently that the script for Episode 2 is much better. [It had better be.] The wise interviewer than asked a followup--did he think the first script was bad? "No," Ewan replied. Then, "It could have been better. It could have been a lot better."
VINDICATION!!!!!!

**END ENTERTAINMENT STUFF***

Well, some interesting feedback on the drug issue. I sort of figured that most people in here would be in favor of legalizing, or at least decriminalizing, drugs. As I said yesterday, I'm too much on the side of the law to ever support that kind of measure, but hey, what do I know. People would drink gasoline if it gave them a great buzz.

The argument for legalizing them though, is one that I find utterly and irredeemably absurd when you approach it from the reasoning that things would be okay with the world if we legalized it and taxed it. How would that solve any of the drug problems that exist today? You could make an argument that less people would be killed in the "War on Drugs", but I would counter that for every bowl that the government sells the consumer, there's going to be some guy on a street corner selling it cheaper, and you'd be in the same boat as before.
What really annoys me is that no one, in their quest for legalization, mentions alcohol. Alcohol is the most used, and abused, drug in the country (possibly the planet). It's socially acceptable to drink alcohol (as long as you are of a certain age). And yet alcoholism is one of the greatest social problems that exists in our culture. Alcoholic related deaths lead the nation--and when I say that, I'm not talking about drunk-driving accidents. The vast majority of criminal acts, everything from homicide and rape to assault, etc., are committed under the influence of alcohol. What's the point, you ask? We, as a culture, can't even handle alcohol, and that's after centuries of social acceptance. Do you really think that we can legalize any illegal drug and not have severe problems, worse than (or at the least as bad as) alcoholism?
I could debate this forever. This is like Robert Downey Jr. Most people say, "He's only hurting himself, leave him alone, he doesn't need jail time." I disagree. Why does no one stop and realize that when this guy gets wasted, he doesn't just get the munchies and raid a 7-11 for corn chips? They always find him with a loaded gun, and the first time they got him was when he broke into a woman's house and fell asleep in her son's bed. You can't say, "No harm done."
So this is a big reason why I'm against legalization. Because I feel that the social harm will far outway the benefits of doing so. That's simple cost-benefit analysis.

Josh: <<Please tell me you know that's a euphamism for LSD and that you don't get visions from smoking weed. >> Yeah, I know, but I needed a funny reference to getting wasted, and the Beatles just popped into my head. <>: Jericho has nothing to do with anything. He's not even Greg's concept. He's Christine's (and a great concept at that!). So if they want to wipe their asses with (artist's name) renditions of jericho, that's there problem. >> That wasn't really my point. The very nature of Jericho is not one that inspires...what's the word? Respect? Disney, being a family-oriented organization (or so they claim), probably wouldn't......oh hell, this would just take too long to explain, and you probably wouldn't understand where I was trying to go with it anyway. <<If Jesus himself came in here and posted against you, I don't think you'd shut up.>> Wow. Are my balls big enough to stand up to the Son of God? Maybe, maybe not, but that's something to aspire to! :]
But wait, didn't the Messiah just come in here to post against me? ;)

The Continuing Gathering Saga: The Messiah may want this to stop, but there are a few more things to be said.
Lexy: Okay, I understand the logic behind you feeling that the show could have a chance to return. Naturally, though, I find it faulty. My reasoning is thus (and I know that this may come across as bashing the show, but it really isn't): All of the programs, shows, songs, etc., that you are talking about, they are cultural icons. They are shows/music that have reached heights of popularity that they have surpassed just being television programs or songs and have become so ingrained in our culture that they have a firm place in our social consciousness and history. You can call a new Charlie's Angels movie, for example, a comeback, but the show has never really left our collective memories. That show was popular back then (thanks in part to Farrah Fawcett before she hit the wall), and it never really stopped being popular, it just sort of slid to just under the cultural radar. Gargoyles never had that kind of success. It was a popular show, obviously, but it never became a *drumroll for dramatic effect* ICON. Flinstones, Jetsons, Rocky & Bullwinkle--those are icons. Seeing them return, in some way, shape, or fashion is nothing surprising. Gargoyles has not had that success. That's no slight to the show, but that is, IMO, a major hurdle (the size of Mt. Everest) that would prevent the show from ever returning to the air waves. To say "it's over" may be a simplistic statement, but I believe it's an accurate one.
I'm not trying to kill someone's enthusiasm about the show. What I am trying to do, however, is to be the voice of not reason, but reality. And reality is unpleasant.

Finally......
<>
I know that the focus was probably on Josh, but my ego is just so big I'm certainly hoping that my name was being bandied about.
So, which one of you has been tattling about me? Oh, I have my suspicions!!!
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:00:17 PM
IP: 66-44-56-97.s97.tnt2.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

TODD> It may not neccesarily be the end of "Buffy" in your area. I've heard of areas that don't get WB, and "Buffy" is played on another channel, like NBC or Fox. There are also networks that play Star Trek Voyager in areas that don't get UPN. So my advise is, find out what channel plays "Voyager", and likely you'll find "Buffy" on that channel.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:54:44 PM
IP: dialin-12-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

* BUFFY/ANGEL SPOILERS *

BUFFY: Rather liked this one, although I suppose that it's really mainly a lead-in/bridge to the season finale. Glory's increasingly erratic behavior as the line between her and Ben gets blurred almost spooked me. I was a little surprised that nobody other than Spike was noticing that Glory and Ben were the same - until it became clear that it was some sort of magic that was blurring their memories which didn't affect Spike. I might have more to say later, but for now - I'm really looking forward to the finale next week - even though it'll be the end of "Buffy" in my area (since St. Louis doesn't get UPN).

ANGEL: This one got me even more. A lot of memorable bits (the Trionic language - now there's an ingenious concept, the interaction between Cordelia and the Grooslunk - or whatever the name was - which was both funny and touching, and the very chilling transformation of Angel). But the bit that really got me at the end was the Host's fate. We'll miss you, Lorne. One of the biggest shockers in the entire series.

Also, a nice touch about the indication that the Covenant is Pylea's version of Wolfram & Hart.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:35:36 PM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup066.dialsprint.net

has the gargoyle writing contest ended already? if not, where's the website for sending in stories?

thanks!

Rodlox - very panicked!

Rodlox - [@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 09:52:58 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Have I mentioned lately how much I adore Greg W.? YOU DA MAN!! ::hugs the stuffings out of Greg::
CrzyDemona
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 08:33:46 PM
IP: 1cust13.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

Ask a College student 'Are you hungry?', if he says 'No' the top 5 translations are:
5. Only if it contains caffine
4. Not hungry enough to get up and move for it
3. Not hungry enough to spend money
2. Too busy...1000 word essay due in one hour...Need 999 more words...
and the number one translation...
1. I'll wait for you to order the piazza

Making Pot Legal: [excerts from "The Montreal Gazette" 15 May 2001, p. A12]
DECRIMINALIZE POT: DOCTORS
Canadian Medical Association Journal says health risk doesn't justify jail
"OTTAWA- Canada's leading medical journal has added its voice to the growing call to decriminalize marijuana, saying Canadians caught with small amounts of pot should not be saddled with the 'indelible tattoo' of a criminal record..."
"While the editorial applauds the recent initiative to legalize marijuana for medical purposes, it says a 'bolder strike' is now needed.
"'The decriminalization of marijuana possession for personal use does not mean making marijuana legal or letting it be sold in every schoolyard,' the journal writes. 'It does mean possession of small amounts for personal use would become a civil offence, like a traffic violation, not a criminal one.'..."
"On the same day Canada was under pressure to decriminalize, the United States Supreme Court took the opposite tack, dealing a crucial blow to sick Americans seeking medical marijuana..."
"The Canadian Medical Association Journal details the 'legal and social fallout' of continuing to criminalize possession of small amounts, a law that the editorial says resulted in 31,299 convictions in 1995.
"'This means that for anyone who's ever been caught with a stash in his or her pocket, the question, 'Have you ever had a criminal conviction?' during a job applocation or medical-school interview can force higher aspirations to go up in a puff of smoke'..."
"'Why the need of the criminal-justice machinery of the state to stop people from doing what they choose to do? A lot of these illicit drugs are less harmful than the ones we accept.' [sociologist Andrew Hathaway]..."
"The committee [the special Senate committee on illegal drugs] was also told that decriminalization in European countries and in Australia has not led to increased use of marijuana."

Todd Jensen: <Another high-quality and literate animated drama series> That woud be great. Too bad that it won't happen until the general public gets out of the 'animated shows are for little kids' mentality. Maybe in a few years, they have accepted it for sit-coms already after all. That attitude was a big part in why we lost Gargoyles in the first place, too many thought that level of maturity could not exist in a cartoon. People with tiny minds are the real kids.

Daniel Johnson: Things had gone there in a handbasket for a while, so it took some time to get my connection back after I lost it. I am glad to be back, I've really missed this place.

DPH: <telemarketers> I figured that they either worked off shifts, or that their lists were of people on the other coast (that would explain why they call when you are asleep). Then again, it could be a conspiracy to get us all on Centaurian time (a thirty-seven-hour day). We would get used to it eventually, save for the occasional psychotic episode. Comments Wilek?

Au revoir
Stephanie - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 07:29:57 PM
IP: modemcable200.80-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca

We.. We had a Greg sighting! In *our* room! And it was because we were having a quasi-flame war. Sigh. How appropriate.

I admit, I do agree with SJ on one thing. Disney may take one look at us and decide they *don't* want us. We'll have to put the people like Lexy and Kai out front, and hide behind them.

Medical mary jane> I, personally, am for legalization of all narcotics, and prostitution. To paraphrase David Spade, let's legalize it, tax the sh!t out of it, and use it to pay off our national debt. Besides, the only reason canibis is illegal in the first place is because William Hearst was such a greedy b'stard.

Warpy> <<SOOOO many things I could say>> Of course. That's why I said it. I like to give the other hentai something to do.

Patrick> But remember your Malcolm. "Black is actually best in heat."

Doug> Hey, you wouldn't happen to have the name of that place you and Kit rented those Team Rocket costumes from, would you? A-kon's coming up, and I was thinking about being somebody besides Kaji.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 06:21:50 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

*thanks everyone who commented*
Josh- Of course I will fogive you:) There were a lot of misunderstandings. I guess I came on to strong.

I guess the concensus *sp* is that most ppl here do not think gargs is comeing back. I don't have an opinion one way or the other, but if you look at all the old ideas that were resurected just this year in the entertainment business it's pretty staggering. On the radio, not that I know the artists, but I have heard serveral songs re-made from years back, tunes re-hashed and tributes made. Lets look at movies shall we? Not that I am saying any of these were good..I don't get out to watch films, but Rocky and Bullwinkel, Rugrats again, Charlies Angles and if my brain wasn't leaking out of my head from 6 finals I could name more I am sure. Rugrats is especially an important point. I remember when it first aired, and I remember re-runs for _years_. I used to know the exact amount of time, but again my brain is fried. It was at least over 5 years to my recollection. It wasn't until so many years later it got so popular. From the articles I read the creators and Nick were surprised saying that when the show first aired it wasn't that popular at all, but after years and years of re-runs it became very popular to the point that they were running it three times a day, 7 days a week. Then the two movies and merchandies came in. My point isn't to say Gargs is or is not coming back or what I think about it. My point is that there are plently of shows and musicians that _have_ made comes backs. So to simply say "gee..its been years so it's over" is _way_ to simplistic a statement. The fandom is what is going to decide whether or not this show has an _opprotunity_ to make a come back. An opprotunity is a lot. Everything starts that way. So for those of you that think the towle has been not only thrown in but washed and re-hung I gotta say that everyone gets their own take on this, but that I have seen some things come back that I forgot existed, and all because a group of fans kept trying for the right _opprotunity_. I guess I just thought getting the 500 total was a stepping stone..not the end all be all. Not "Ok we got 500 we get the show back". I think it is a great goal to shoot for:) I thank all who put up with this hyper-fan girl, and again Josh don't worry about it:)

*is sorry for spelling errors!*
Lexy - [izzolexington3@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 03:38:51 PM
IP: 143.235.54.192

DPH> In NY, Governer Pataki recently passed a law that says that telemarketers can actually be *fined* if they call you and you've put your name on an official registry asking *not* to be called (http://www.consumer.state.ny.us/). Maybe you can ask your Arizona representatives to pass the same law.
Vash
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 02:37:02 PM
IP: dyn-118-136.res.aecom.yu.edu

hmm. I hate being ignored to a certain point because that has happened so much in RL to me.

Yesterday, telephone calls like crazy kept me from getting back to sleep. Isn't there some kind of national databse in the US for people who do NOT want to be bothered by telemarketers? Worse question yet, if supposedly everybody is working during the daytime, what are the odds of a telemarketer reaching someone home during the daytime? The real question: what percentage of the population works during each shift?

How can the US be considered a free market economy when you look at all the tax loop holes?

Imzadi - making matrys out of people only increases the number of people you fight against. It happened at a discussion board that banned members and deleting posts that critized the moderator. The problem was that the rules for banning were a wee bit muddy and lead to several people leaving.

Ok, all you pinball junkies out there, what is the secret to computer pinball? I am convinced that the ball movement is just point blank random: I have luanched the ball from the same position multiple times and the results always vary.

**RP RELATED**
it looks like this is going to be a 4-parter.
**END RP RELATED**

**BFTS RP continues**
Lunatic and Lunacy arrive in position and see DPH talking at a gravesite.

Lunatic asked, "Hmm, isn't that the guy who toke out NCA?"

Lunacy replies, "yep, and we have to protect others from him? it just seems illogical."

*MEANWHILE*

The Speed Star semis approach the graveyard with the helicopters overhead. The trucks stop and the Speed Stars get out and get their gear.

"Repeat confirmation that this is the right graveyard."

"Confirmation repeated. Why do you ask?"

"Somebody is at the gravesite and that person matches DPH's description."

"You know the orders."
**END BFTS RP for now**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 02:15:32 PM
IP: max1-11.cwy.cei.net

Todd:
Oh, come now; you KNOW this won't solve anything. People will just assume that you sent someone in your place to make us THINK that you're just an ordinary human being. :) That's the great thing about being a conspiracy theorist; you don't NEED evidence when you can just invent it. After all, didn't you know that the Earth is really hollow and there is a hole at the North Pole that leads inside? Why doesn't it show up on photos from space? Because all of the world's governments and scientists are conspiring to hide the fact. Obvious, isn't it. :)
----
Stephanie:
Cyborg!!! You're back!!! I always wondered what happened to you. How's things?
----
Jannie:
I'm very sorry for your loss. I'm glad you got another dog, though. Guess you're gonna be pretty busy now. :)

Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work I go...
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 08:02:31 AM
IP: adsl-138-89-122-58.nnj.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Well, I've got a bit of a confession to make. My reason for going to the Gathering isn't really to help get the series back on the air; it's more for the opportunity to meet the people whom I've conversed with over the Internet (including Mr. Weisman) - and to squelch (I hope) all those rumors about me being a Vorlon, an orangutan, Greg Weisman in disguise, a member of the Illuminati Society, or a cat that just happens to walk across the keyboard of a computer. :)

As for bringing "Gargoyles" back - I will confess that I've come to accept it being gone. I still miss it a little, but I'm now moving more towards the goal of "Okay, 'Gargoyles' is over, so let's see if we can get somebody to create another high-quality and literate animated drama series." That might be a greater thing to achieve than just more "Gargoyles" episodes.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 07:12:32 AM
IP: sdn-ar-002mosloup143.dialsprint.net

TODAY IS THE DAY...

Today is May 15, 2001, the last day to pre-register for The Gathering 2001 as an attending member at the $40 pre-registration rate. Please be sure to get your mail-in registrations and payments postmarked today to guarantee the pre-registration rate. And while you're registering, don't forget to reserve a seat at the Awards Banquet or pre-order your Gathering t-shirt or calendar!

For whoever asked, the shirts will be white, BTW. I hate black t-shirts, too... you get too hot in the blazing sun in a black t-shirt. Which I guess makes it a good thing that Elisa Maza works the night shift. :)

Anyway... click my name for registration forms on the Gathering site!
Patrick Toman - [gathering2001@art-chicks.com]
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 07:01:24 AM
IP: acad6c07.ipt.aol.com

Okay I'm tired of being railed on for something I admittedly shouldn't have done. I promise to stop if everyone else promises to shut up already. I'm here to read interesting posts, not have flame wars (despite evidence to the contrary).

Lexy, I'm really sorry. I really shouldn't have lashed out at you like that. Greg and Christine are right, I was behaving ludicrously and taking the stress of finals out on you. My apologies. I won't do that again. I hope you can forgive me, but if you don't I understand.

Doug: <<Kit pic>>: I can definitely work with that pic. Thanks. The link wasn't dead, per se, but just said "the page you've requested cannot be displayed". Bastards. Anyway, I probably won't get to it this week, but by next week she should be done.

Jaden: <>: I dunno, bedding at 600 feet sounds like fun! Mile high club, anyone? 8-)

"Stoneflight": Yawn. If there's no Demona or Brooklyn, I'm not interested. 8-)

Christine: I don't think the gathering staff is rolling in dough, nor do I think they're trying to make this a showy and expensive affair. But you're right about laying off of Lexy.

Greg Weissman: I confess to having failed to see the logic of the Disney Exec. My bad.

Lexy, Gathering staff, Greg Weissman, anyone that cares: Okay, I'm sold. I'll try to get someone to pay for a sponsoring membership in addition to buying myself and my friend full memberships. I expect to see the $100 I've already spent put to good use paying Marina Sirtis to put on a strip show.

SJ: <<he was the only one in the world who didn't realize it yet>>: LOL. <<bisexuality>>: My friend and I were talking about this last night. If you're 30 years old and still bisexual...you're probably gay. That was the conclusion we came to. <<pro-cannibas people>>: I think people have more of a right to smoke pot than drink or smoke cigarettes. But that's just me. <<seeing Lucy in the sky with diamonds>>: Please tell me you know that's a euphamism for LSD and that you don't get visions from smoking weed. <<surfer because I'm from CA>>: what part of "scrawny computer geek" sounds like "studly surfer". <<funky shorts>>: If you ever see me wearing shorts that are patterened after an iMac, you have my permission to beat the living sh*t out of me. <<looks gay because you're in Berkeley>>: There are a lot of straight people in this city too. And I'm from LA (not that there aren't even MORE gay people there, but whatever). People seem to have this delusion that everyone in CA is either a hippy or a surfer or both. I'm a republican computer geek. <<it doesn't look like it's someone holding personal grudges>>: What personal grudges would you be acting on if YOU said it, just out of curiosity? <>: Jericho has nothing to do with anything. He's not even Greg's concept. He's Christine's (and a great concept at that!). So if they want to wipe their asses with (artist's name) renditions of jericho, that's there problem. Its all the OTHER stuff that's so critical to the gargoyles universe that they need to see. The canon stuff. <<You would think this would shut me up>>: If Jesus himself came in here and posted against you, I don't think you'd shut up. And that's what makes you cool. You say what's on your mind. Greg W may be a messiah to some of us (though not me, after he lambasted my anti-Shakespeare comments), but not you. I'm not sure if you bring out the best or worst in me, but reading your posts definitely puts a smile on my face. (don't flatter yourself, this is not a come-on). <<all of a sudden I'm abusing Lexy>>: You're not, that was me they were talking to. I was with that RP'd fake slap. <<THIS is what draws Greg's attention?>>: I totally agree with you on this one. Greg often has time to drop into S8 about various gargoyle-related stuff, and I don't think that this, of all the issues and mini-flames we've had in here, merited his interference. But its a free CR, and he can post on any subject he wants.

Warpmind: <<I've got something Wilek wants, nyah, nyah>>: World Domination? <<the old system WAS severely flawed in places>>: Amen, brotha. <<Does that make the songs any less pleasant to hear?>>: Absolutely not! In fact, it makes them far more entertaining.

The trick is not to die for your country, but to make the other poor bastard die for his.
-General George S. Patton

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 03:53:27 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

*Warpmind enters, looking smug.*
I've got something Wilek wants, nyah, nyah. };) But seriously, for a rare game, with several definitely Wilekian appeals, do click my name. }:)

Shadowrider: Oy! Long time, true!

Beth: Out of rare concern for my own physical integrity, I'm STILL refraining from commenting, except... my sympathies. (But I can not relate...)

Gside: Grazie, thanks, and Bless ye, laddie. Haven't played Baldur's Gate, I'm afraid - some bad AD&D experiences in the past... (the old system WAS severely flawed in places...)

Josh: So it's about weed. So is Mr. Tambourine Man. Does that make the songs any less pleasant to hear? And I'm not a freeloader! I use public transportation systems when possible, and generally walk the rest. As vor the voice thing - let's leave it before it gets ugly, shall we? };) Oh, and I didn't say YOU were the one who'd watched too much Mortal Kombat, did I? };) And no, it's 16 in Norway. I think you're thinking of the Netherlands, though I'm not sure...

GXB: Interesting article... *Chokes on coffee* Um... a chemist called *Svante Aarhenius*? That sounds eerily like an anagram...

Aaron: There are SOOOO many things I could say to that "fap, fap, fap" comment... but I'll settle for this: with Mara, what'll you need that for? };)

Woohoo! Greg Weisman posted! Too bad it was something like this that lured him out... hmm... I wonder if we can manage somehow to lure him out on a more cheerful note, too?

SJ: The cannabis debate: Now, as I understand it, then, this new bill only prohibits the medical sale of cannabis to alleviate pain? I'm game there - HOWEVER - as I understand it, marihuana also has a few other medical qualities that are beneficial to people with certain rare medical conditions (and don't ask me which effects or conditions, 'cause I honestly don't know exactly). This being partly because those conditions are so-called minority diseases, i.e. exceedingly rare, and hard to raise research funds for. Now, I'm not saying weed should be smoked at all, but I reckon it's WAY preferrable to some complex sickness pattern without any other alleviating medication. (That goes beyond mere pain, mind you.) And, of course, there is the dope-free marihuana plans they're breeding, too. (Virtually none of the THC(?), which causes the high, but all the other stuff.) Plus, of course, the plant's a marvel to make fabric, rope and paper from... ;)

GXB: You don't mean that "one man's right is another man's left", do you? };)

Well, that sums up the post. *Scampers off to code*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 03:42:00 AM
IP: mp-217-198-119.daxnet.no

Imzadi> <<I'm too lazy to go look it up>>: Oh, how I understand.

Welocme back Stephanie.

Aaron> <<Life just isn't the same with out the occasional fap, fap, fap>>: Well, good news. Apparently it has partially returned. Sexy Losers appears to be a new series by Clay, though it's credited to Hard. And there are some THL comics in the archive.

Lynati> <<several cases of packaged Ramen>>: Would that be Joketsuzoku ramen?

It has been amazingly slow lately. Wilek, Gunjack? If you aren't making blinding headway catching up, I just might get annoyed.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 02:42:10 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

*Steps in*

Well, the is going to be my last post from Uncalled For for the next three months or so; everything goes into storage tomorrow, unless something dire happens to affect my plans.
I'm out of here Wednesday morning.
*sighs* it's been...an interesting year.

Lexy: I think what you are doing is very much a thing to be applauded for. If every fan DID have your enthusiasm, the show would have never have been allowed to leave the air in the first place. Personally, I doubt that the show will ever make it back, but there are other reasons for attending the con; many valid reasons other than the ones mentioned here. I, for one, would send in a supporting membership, if I wasn't already attending. I mean, REALLY, people- 15 bucks...it's not for the show; it's for the *fandom*. For the oppurtunity for all us garg-obsessors to continue to have the future oppurtunity to get together, disney execs or not.
IMO,If keeping the fandom healthy means eating three lunches of 59c Maruchan instant soups from QuickTrip instead of having McBurgers, I think it's a small price to pay.
But maybe that's just me.

Well, I gotta try to get some sleep before my Art History Final. See yall when I reach the coast...

(and, in case it helps to sway anyones mind...)
*leaves several cases of packaged Ramen (mmm, Ramen!!) soup on the tea table of peace, and breezes out through the fabric gate*

Lynati Kshudra - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
South of Sanity...and then there was one.
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 02:23:09 AM
IP: 207.94.232.198

SJ> Well, as you know I believe that the rights of a person end where another's rights begin. I think Marijuana should be legal, all drugs should be legal... and not because I want to do any (I don't), but because I think people have the right to fu-k up their lives if they want. And the government should TAX the Hell out of these substances. Also, they'd be much cleaner, and regulated. Hey, it works for Holland.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Monday, May 14, 2001 11:35:36 PM
IP: dialin-1109-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Different assortments of crap tonight:

From the Painfully Obvious Department: REM frontman Michael Stipe has finally come out of the closet and admitted that he is gay. Apparently, he was the only one in the world who didn't realize it yet.
I'm happy for him�.you gotta be who you are, after all�..but I think this proves what I said a few weeks ago-there really is no such thing as bisexuality. I could argue this point with people, even though it would be a silly argument. But that's what I believe. There is no "true" bisexuality. You may have sex with both genders, but you prefer one over the other, and that means you are a ____sexual (either hetero or homo, one or the other). I'd even go one inflammatory step further and say that if you claim to be bisexual, that you more often prefer the same sex over the opposite. Look at Stipe-he was in both homosexual and heterosexual relationships and has finally announced that he's gay. This is a surprise? That is his preference, and I'm glad he's finally admitted it (cause the rumors are always worse than the truth). Anyone agree? Disagree? Want to call me a homophobic bigot? I mean, I don't care what you are, but I don't really believe that there is such a thing as bisexuality in the sense that you have no personal sexual preference.

More Controversial Stuff: The Supreme Court has "ruled California cannabis clubs may not legally distribute marijuana as a 'medical necessity' for seriously ill patients". Somewhere, Jackal is cursing up a storm.
I agree with the court, BTW (is anyone surprised)? There's a reason for this. The logic of the "cannabis clubs" is that marijuana is necessary to alleviate pain. This logic is faulty. The reason is that scientists have analyzed marijuana up and down, and they can isolate, if they so choose, the exact chemical in marijuana that alleviates pain (I'm forgetting the exact name for this chemical. It's abbreviated with letters, but I can't recall). Here's the fun part-the chemical that alleviates pain? NOT the same chemical that gets you high. So, if the docs really wanted too, they could take marijuana, extract the pain reliever, and give it to a patient as a pill, and it would NOT make them high. Of course, no one wants that, cause then you come right down to the heart of the matter-it ain't about relieving pain, it's about smoking a bowl and seeing Lucy in the sky with diamonds. The Supreme Court realizes this, and that's why they struck CA down.
Anyone got any thoughts on this? Realize that I'm an ADJ graduate, so I tend to side more with that pesky thing called the law when it comes to drug matters. Any pro-cannibas people in here?

Josh: I think that people believe your icon looks like a surfer because of the funky shorts and you being in CA.
I think that people believe that your icon looks gay because you're in Berkeley.
Hey, I'm not casting dispersions, I'm just following the words of Tony Soprano.

But I wholeheartedly agree with something Josh said, and I'm glad he said it, because when he says it (rather instead of me) it doesn't look like it's someone holding personal grudges.
I'll be Mr. Pessimist here, but the idea that Gargoyles is ever gonna come back? That's a pipe dream. It's over. You can get 500 people at the Gathering, and the Disney folks will scratch their ass and say "Oh, that's nice", and NOTHING will be done. If anything, I would think that 500 fanboys/girls would have the opposite effect upon the execs than intended. Greg Weisman may love the idea of Jericho, for example, but I doubt the suits would understand the concept that well. This is why it's a good thing that I'm not attending the Gathering, because they would take one look at me, call security, and inquire as to if there was some sort of a toxic waste spill that had begun mutating the populace.
So, call me a killjoy, or Mr. Doom and Gloom, but I just think that if you're going into this year's Gathering (or sending in the 15 bucks to get your name put in a little book) with the hopes that the show is gonna come back on the air�..it ain't happening. I'll cut off my pinky finger, Yakuza style, if it does, but somehow I think my days of playing piano will be long indeed.

Lexy: I don't mind you shilling for the Gathering folks, that's okay. But why are you surprised that people *won't* pay the 15 bucks? Like I said before, and I suppose Pat disagrees with me, but 15 bucks just to have my name in a book and a "certificate of appreciation" or some such nonsense is not a wise financial move in my opinion. I'd rather spend that money either a) going to the actual gathering, or b) getting something of actually value from the con. I don't want just a t-shirt. Now, if Jonathan Frakes wipes his ass with the t-shirt, and you then send it to me, then it has real value. (I'm only half-joking about that too).
And before you ask, yes, I am heartless enough to say that the 5 bucks to charity does not move me at all to give alms.

Oh wait, Greg Weisman posted as I was writing this. You would think this would shut me up. But I'm too hardheaded.

Again, let me reiterate some points:
1.When have you ever known me to not bitch about something, even if I didn't have to? I'm not bitching about Lexy, just about subject matter. Is it so wrong for me to want something more for my 15 bucks (assuming the hypothetical that I would actually spend it)?
2. While it's nice to think that Disney would put something into production, it's still a pipedream. Who are we kidding? I have to play the pessimist here.
3.Of all the stuff I've said in here, both good and bad, THIS is what draws Greg's attention??? I feel oddly�disappointed.
4.I like how all of a sudden I'm abusing Lexy. Maybe Lexy will get mad and yell at me and tell me she's not my friend anymore.
Then congratulate me for graduating college.

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Monday, May 14, 2001 11:21:38 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

*blushes brightly* I thank all of you who took the
time to post. It made me feel much better:) I hope all
of you took the time to read what Greg wrote about the
500 total counting for way more. It isn't just some
stupid thing the staff came up with. This is an
incredible boon. Somebody mentioned to me that their
take on this situation was that it has been too many
years, and people have decided that what they do
doesn't count as much now. What you do _now_ counts a
million. If we want Disney to take another look at
Gargoyles we need to show our constant support. Not
wait a few more years, and hope someone gets a wild
hair. We are the Gargoyles fandom..if we stop
caring..well I think you get the idea. We have until
June 11 to send in more non-attending memberships. I
hope some of you will reconsider. Please.
Lexy - [izzolexington@yahoo.com]
Monday, May 14, 2001 11:20:23 PM
IP: 64.243.214.131

Just testing and leavin' my links. :)
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, May 14, 2001 11:14:21 PM
IP: 64.243.214.131

GREG> ::APPLAUDS:: I agree with you. If you don't want to buy a supporting membership, than don't. If you can't buy one, than don't. No one is making anyone do so.

It was cool to see you in here, I don't expect to see you here again, but still cool seeing you in here.

Oh well, see you in S8 and at the Gathering.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Monday, May 14, 2001 09:57:37 PM
IP: dialin-1109-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Hi gang,

I don't usually (OR EVER) stop by this room, but I heard Lexy was being beat up over Supporting Memberships and I wanted to lend her my support.

Now, no one HAS to do anything. PERIOD. Nobody. And $15 is $15. If you don't have it. You don't have it. If you have it but don't want to spend it, then don't spend it. What I'm saying is that if the following plea doesn't apply to you, then IGNORE it. It seems to me that ignoring things that don't apply to one is becoming a lost art.

But for those who are at least curious, Supporting Memberships do help us out a LOT. And I certainly don't think it's even vaguely outrageous for the con to offer these memberships or for Lexy to try and cheerlead for them.

>RPing a fake slap across the face strikes me as outrageous, but maybe that's just me.<

As for the memberships, you do get something in return. For starters, a portion of the money goes to the Make-A-Wish Foundation, and a portion goes to the Gathering Fund which helps keep our con alive, not just this year but in the future. Some people aren't interested in these causes. If you're one of those people, fine. Ignore the plea. But if either of those two causes mean something to you, then here's an opportunity to contribute.

You also get a certificate -- and a mention in the book and a chance for a t-shirt. Now I won't pretend that any of those things are worth money. But they mean something to some people. Recognition for helping the con. Being part of a group of people. Whatever. If it means nothing to you; if it doesn't apply to your life, ignore it. PLEASE IGNORE IT.

Finally, the notion that 500 people mean nothing to Disney Execs is both true and wrong-headed. Every Disney exec knows (and I've been a Disney exec, so I can vouch for this) that every one person that participates as a fan represents at least 100 people who are too lazy or can't afford to or have other plans or aren't in the mood that day or whatever. That means that 500 people equates to 50,000 people. And believe me, that's a number that will register for Disney. Maybe not register enough to bring the show back. But maybe enough to put one of the spin-offs into development or to get them to release the old series on DVD. Or release Carl Johnson's score on CD. These big Studios are HUGE on Market research. They don't do anything these days without it. This is market research in their backyards. They'll be interested.

Which doesn't mean you have to be interested. Civil, on the other hand, would be nice.
Greg Weisman
Monday, May 14, 2001 09:49:13 PM
IP: pool0175.cvx17-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net

Josh and SJ / Gathering stuff > come on guys, how about laying off on Lexy? She's trying to HELP and not getting anything but abuse and grief from the pair of you. If you expect more for your money, that's fine, but there's no need to give her a hard time. The Gathering staff is well aware that this isn't going to be a cheap vacation for anyone. Including us! I don't know why people seem to think we're deliberately making it cost too much to keep the poor people away ... none of us are rolling in dough, and frankly I get a little sick of all the complaining. Even those of us who aren't in college can't really afford to be doing this. I can't afford to be bringing my whole family (for the third time in a row) and yet I'm going to. I'm making other sacrifices because I love the show, I love the fans, I want to have a good time, and the whining I've been hearing is really starting to make me sick. It's all a matter of priorities, caring, and choice.
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, May 14, 2001 09:45:09 PM
IP: 03-146.075.popsite.net

Hi ya'll. I'm back. Sorry I've been gone so long. I've had lots of other stuff to occupy my mind. Added to some persistant computer problems, I just haven't had the energy to deal with anything not completely necessary on my computer. (Other than playing Alchemy on MSN.com. That game is more addictive than crack)

I'm going to make an effort to at least lurk for a while, but until I can get the DSL connection to stop committing serial suicide, I can't promise to say much. Anything that involves the connection setting idle for very long is likely to make it go dead.

I really don't have anything so interesting to say that I want to type it twice.

See ya'll later.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, May 14, 2001 07:52:19 PM
IP: adsl-65-65-211-19.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

(Moment of silence for Douglas Adams)

Lynati> <<hour 45 of sleep deprivation>> Ouch. That breaks my record by a good seven hours. Of course, I managed to drive in that condition...

Josh> <> I am, and I'm hardly what you'd call a major author. <<did my civic duty and voted against them>> Thank you.

FS> <<other than the D:TP stuff, I didn't recconize any of it.>> Lessee, there were riffs on DBZ, Geobreeders, Lum, Voltron, Gao Gi Gar, and, I think, Sailor Moon, among others.

Beth: You and Tracie Lords, huh?

My Quote: "PISS-ME-OFF."

Dreamie> <<Both of 'em?>> (Does Xellos' embarrassed, hand-behind-the-head-thing) Uh, yeah.

SJ> Congrats, grad.

Gside> <> Me too. Life just isn't the same with out the occasional fap, fap, fap.

Warpy> <<for the past couple years, it's been a knot>> Yeah, I know how that goes.

Stephanie> Welcome back. I'd say deposit your sanity, but you killed DC, so...

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, May 14, 2001 06:35:56 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

***Kyryn steps into the room.***

Sad news, folks. Douglas Adams, author of "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galazy" passed away on Sunday. He was only 49 and died of a heart attack.
Oracle> <Disney option on "Stoneflight"> Well, it sounds interesting, but I can already tell from the blurb that they are tampering with the original storyline. The 'gargoyle' is a stone griffin and there were no other 'troubled' kids in the original story. Ah well, it's Disney -- go figure.

Shadowrider> I'm glad to hear that you take your voting rights very seriously. I hope that your candidate won.

Later, All!

***Kyryn ducks back out of the CR.***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Monday, May 14, 2001 06:23:13 PM
IP: dallas-208-187-65-75.safepages.com

Oops. I mean being 600 ft. in the air, not beding.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Monday, May 14, 2001 05:24:08 PM
IP: ac9879fd.ipt.aol.com

I'm here! Been having some problems with the Internet. DAMN AOL! I went parasailing yesterday and if you havn't tried it, then you are really missing out. I found beding 600 ft. in the air very relaxing. Well the time has come, my leave is coming to an end and I must return to Korea. So my next post will probably be some time next week at Camp Casey.

BTW I saw Mummy 2 and I loved it, but I agree with my twin sister when she says that the Scorpion King looked like a "Ken doll" toward the end.

Later.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Los Alamos, CA
Monday, May 14, 2001 05:22:33 PM
IP: ac9879fd.ipt.aol.com

***Warning: Gruesome DC Death***
DC is lying on the floor with his arms (above his head) crushed under a toppled bookcase. The girl in black is straddling his legs, a bread knife in her hand. She rips off his shirt to give her access to the soft flesh of DC's belly, which she proceeds to saw open with the knife. Once he has been disemboweled, she pushes the bookcase off his arms, and ties a loop of DC's intestines around the chandelier. Taking another segment of his intestines she makes a noose, and hangs DC with it.
***End of Gruesome DC Death***
That's for crashing my e-mail server right after I finally get back on the internet after TWO years of withdrawl.

You know you have been off-line too long when you can't remember your handle, passwords, URLs etc.

A cup of hot water, with bits of dried leaves from a weed placed in, then removed from it, and small amount of liquid from a lactating quadruped herbavore added in, in memory of Douglas Adams. (Or whatever that beverage is supposed to be.)

DPH: <when does the doctor I visit keep my dad's medical records with mine?> Do you have a rare congenetal disorder? In that case he might keep all your records together in order to know what to expect for you.

Well, I'm off to catch up on... how many seasons did I miss?

Au revoir
Stephanie - [sdcurtin@crosswinds.net]
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Monday, May 14, 2001 01:59:58 PM
IP: modemcable200.80-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca

I couldn't get back to sleep for the stupid phone ringing. ONLY 1 person bothered leaving a message.

1+1=2

Here's a riddle: when does the doctor I visit keep my dad's medical records with mine? Doctor-Patient client priviledge applies you know.

If you all managed the minor miracle of getting 1,000 people at a gargoyles convention, that oughta be enough sign to The Big Mouse, that there is enough fandom to bring the series back. One word: strong enough niche. That's what keeps Star Trek around, right?

1+1=2

maybe tomorrow things will pick up enough for me to do justice to end of this short arc for the BFTS RP.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Monday, May 14, 2001 01:40:02 PM
IP: max1-38.cwy.cei.net

*pops in*

I saw this on Excite.com and thought it particularly interesting. We might not get our Gargoyles movie, but a gargoyles movie is going to be made. :D

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Walt Disney Pictures has optioned "Stoneflight," an out-of-print book by prize-winning children's author Georgess McHargue in a deal that could top off at a substantial six figures.

The studio is developing the project as an animated feature.

The story follows a lonely girl seeking refuge from her squabbling parents by escaping to the roof of her Manhattan brownstone. There she befriends a lonely gargoyle, climbs on his back and flies to Central Park, where other gargoyles have convened with other children from troubled families.

Published by Viking in 1975, the book has drifted out of print. But former Viking Children's Books publisher George Nicholson, now an agent at Sterling Lord Literistic, is about to shop it to publishers for a second time.

McHargue has written more than 20 books for kids and adults. She recently launched a Web site, McQuark.com, which reviews e-books for children and lists certain out-of-print juvenilia that McHargue and her friends think should be brought back to press. "Stoneflight" is on their list.

Oracle - [The constant lurker. ;)]
Monday, May 14, 2001 12:28:44 PM
IP: mke-65-29-130-172.wi.rr.com

Imzadi: That's funny, the link wasn't broken for me. Oh well, I'll just send you the pic. We'll see if that works. Check your e-mail.
Doug
Monday, May 14, 2001 12:20:40 PM
IP: pool-63.52.168.3.dlls.grid.net

This seems interesting.

http://pets.msn.com/news/article12.asp
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Monday, May 14, 2001 11:25:01 AM
IP: dialin-125-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Saw Mummy II today: No spoilers. BUT IT ROCKED EVERYONE GO SEE IT!

Doug: Broken link. Led me to a dead yahoo page. <<Dreamie did a good job>>: Amazing, in my opinion. I wish I could draw like that. <<Just airbrush out Rosanna>>: Easier said than done. <<Maybe I should get one commissioned>>: Ask Dreamie if she has time to do one...she did mine for free! <<Arianna>>: Um, I don't think that's THE arianna from CR...that's just some other Arianna Dreamie drew. <<Good things are worth waiting for>>: We have very different philosophies. When I see something good, I take it. Why wait? Life's too short for that.

Patrick: <<optimistic outlook>>: First, optimism isn't in my vocabulary. Second, I prefer realism to blind faith. I'm sorry you don't like it, but as much as I love gargoyles, that's still the way I feel. <<Frakes>>: Oh well, maybe next year.

Warpmind: <<Puff, the Magic Dragon>>: Heh heh...that song is about weed...<<doesn't even have a driver's license?>>: It says you're a freeloader. Now get out there and pay for your friends gas! <<comments about my voice>>: Phone sex operators have nice voices too...and most of them are overweight disgusting blobs. But best of luck to you. I won't be exerting any effort to draw ladies at Gathering...LA is full of manufactured women and I'm gonna be there all summer. <<watching Mortal Kombat>>: One, how'd you know it was silver. Two, I've been saying "let's dance" since way before Mortal Kombat. << not gonna say it. SOOOOOO not gonna say it>>: Isn't 12 the legal age of consent in Norway? 8-) LOL.

<<to keep people from thinking I was easy>>: And now we know the difference between men and women. Men don't care if they have a reputation for being easy. In fact, I think all men are born with that reputation.

Beth: <<people 10 years older than me would>>: I'd give my eye teeth for people ten years older than me to call me "sir" or hit on me. Nonetheless, I can see how it was hard to deal with in 6th grade.

Jannie: <<you're rich>>: That, my friend, is a loaded question. Suffice it to say I could live a college student lifestyle off my savings for a very long time. So now the question becomes: what's a college student lifestyle? 8-) Anyway, yeah, this gathering is gonna be expensive. It's already expensive, and I have to register my friend...and then, knowing myself, I'll probably buy a bunch of artwork or something.

Lexy: You seem to be missing a lot here. First, there's <<Instead of paying the huge con fee>>. What you don't understand is that when you pay the con fee, you get to GO to con. There's no reason to just send money for the sake of watching it fly away. If I'm gonna spend $15, I damn well better see something for it. And then you said that $15 is me and two buddies at MccyD's. THAT"S THREE MEALS! You made my point for me! Next, "bringing disney execs" in no way means that the show's coming back. Again, 500 people is not enough for a huge company like disney to justify bringing back the show.

Gside: <<you could always be repressing>>: A scrawny, pale, uncoordinated whiteboy with no fashion sense that likes chicks...a lot. I doubt I could be repressing either. <<how is that proven?>>: I forget. And I'm too lazy to go look it up.

Ishamel founded my people. Fsck Issac.
-Matteen

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, May 14, 2001 04:35:25 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

*Enters briefly*

Still alive, too.
Have spent the weekend doing breakdowns..not the fun kind where you end up with the outline for an interesting story at the end; I'm talking about the physical packing kind, wherein you have to break down an entire dorm room into it's component parts and have them in storage within a very short period of time.
...anyone know of any good storage places in the KC area?
*sighs*
I guess it's time to face that pesky phone-calling phobia again.

I have my finals today and tomorrow.
I have to pack up my computer by tuesday night; I hope to see yall soon. I'll try to post again before then.

*Exits*
Lynati Kshudra
South of Sanity...two days and drowning
Monday, May 14, 2001 03:00:33 AM
IP: 207.94.232.93

I got some grades back. My gpa went down a little, but there were no major surprises. Now if only I knew what the temporary flag meant on my principles grade...

Imzadi> <>: Well, you could always be repressing one, the other, or both.
<<Back away...slowly>>: I believe that was my point.
<<it turns out the that universe has left-handed chirality>>: But how is that proven?

Warpmind> <<I'll be needing some help for your RPG character>>: I probably won't be on any IMs very much for the summer, as the computer isn't dedicated only to me, but catch me if you can, and my email should work if you don't mind delayed responses.
<<inscriptions for tombstone>>: There's some good ones in Baldur's Gate. There's also a moderately good collection at http://members.aol.com/opal29/epitaph.html The life of Riley should be a must.

Beth> <>: I am sure there are other who would have wanted to have your problem.

Revel> <<wearing all black, a bandana>>: What color bandana?

And as a further tribute to the good Mr. Adams, the new mp3 is Journey of the Sorcerer by the Eagles, which was used in the radio production of HHGtG (or at least the vinyl release of it).

Na zdorov'ya.

side - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, May 14, 2001 12:43:17 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

geezz where is my brain. Really sorry for the triple post here guys.

Josh- I wasn't upset about ppl that can't afford 15 dollars. I am scraping a lot too. What I was upset about(in a completely surprised/sad way NOT angry way) was that there was at least 100 or so ppl at the last Gathering. Most of them were in the room when Greg said he wanted us to try for 500 ppl at the next con. Everyone cheered and said they would give it there best. When the totals came in for this con and they were REALLY expensive a lot of ppl backed out. I TOTALLY understand that one. I can't even room at the host hotel! I am just lucky I had a vocher *sp* for half off my flight from a mistake that happend during the last Gathering. But then we got offered this non-attending deal. Instead of paying the huge con fee you could just chip in 15 dollars. Anyway, my point is that I am _not_ by any means upset at ppl. I am surprised and dissapointed that so many ppl backed out due to a 15 dollar charge. I know all the ppl in that room were really hyped about the 500 goal, which isnt NEAR easy to do. But if even a quarter of those ppl had donated 15 dollars we would be much better off. From looking over the list online I can see that only a five ppl out of that whole group (at the most) donated. I am just reallyreally shocked that's all. Not mad. Just really surprised. Again. I am sorry that I offended you with the 15 dollar posts. I will stop completely. IMO, however, most of us could spend that much at Mcdonalds with two buddies. *Thanks Kit and others and stops posting*
Lexy
Monday, May 14, 2001 12:11:22 AM
IP: ac9fb520.ipt.aol.com

Sevarius- Actually it does count for something. It counts for the 500 preson goal we are trying to make. Greg simply suggested at the last convention that if we got 500 ppl he would bring some Disney executives to the con to check it out. It helps us in way to show Disney we are still interested. Again. I am sorry I have been makeing ppl upset..I didn't think this was really that hard *shrugs*...

Lexy
Sunday, May 13, 2001 11:55:32 PM
IP: ac9fb520.ipt.aol.com

Josh- *is surprised* *looks at you* ..I'm..so sorry I offended you. I am paying my entire way through collage too. I dosen't cost anything to do the membership yourself..you just find one person to give you 15 dollars..or heck 15 ppl to give you each a dollar. Again. I am sorry I offended.
Lexy
Sunday, May 13, 2001 11:49:58 PM
IP: ac9fb520.ipt.aol.com

*comes in with SUCKER stamped across forehead*

Everyone, meet Glory... *legs wrapped with a bright pink leash with a skinny, tiny Min Pin puppy at the end, bouncing and trying to pull loose* I said that there would be no replacement.... but she's so cuuuute!! hehe Glory has the same coloring and markings as Juanita, too!
Ummm, does anyone know anything about Min Pinschers? I sure don't! O.o
Juanita is not very accepting of the newest addition, but then again... Juanita only likes me and herself. *L*

I was able to spend Mother's Day with my children :) Had to drive to McAlester, Oklahoma to do it, but well worth the drive. Anna returned with me and has been hired to work as Archery Director at the Boy Scout camp this summer. She is very thrilled about this (so am I!) and will hopefully continue putting her on the right path in life. Hard work, long hours and smothering heat should be the ticket... hehehe

Todd> I rented those same tapes of Buffy too! When I was first learning about Buffy and the series, Denis suggested that I watch them. Anna found a video for me that I bought that's an "Unaired Pilot Episode" of Buffy. This is the pilot episode that Joss Whedon decided to do on his own (wrote, directed and even financed it) He then shopped around the networks with this until WB accepted it. It has most of the same cast members, except it has a different Willow. The video also includes the episode "The Wish". :)

Josh> you're rich? wanna' compare financial statements? ;p Just kiddin' with ya... But yeah... attending this Gathering is not going to be cheap, no matter how much you scrimp and cut corners. =\
I'm going to order a calendar too... I think the art work will be beautiful on it.

Patrick> do you know what color the T-shirts are going to be? Last year it was said that there would be a grey t-shirt, but it turned out to be black. I don't like black t-shirts, so I don't want to buy one and then have it hang in my closet like last year's does now.
Jannie
Sunday, May 13, 2001 07:38:08 PM
IP: modem20-217.mo-net.com

No particular deep significance to the Spenserian names for the sidhe knights; I just needed some names and borrowing a few from "The Faerie Queene" struck me as appropriate - not to mention giving a little bit of class to the story.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, May 13, 2001 06:47:44 PM
IP: ip95.st-louis27.mo.pub-ip.psi.net

somebody tell me why almost all the Sidhe knights from the TGS stories came out of the Faerie Queen? Was this foreshadowing of something?
Altron
Sunday, May 13, 2001 04:01:19 PM
IP: 205.213.142.101

Hmm. slow days.

It's time or is it?

Scars - I have a small one for playing with hot fire. No comment about how small it is.

**PR**
Has Saban said next season of you-know-what-show the last season?
**END PR**

Not enough stuff to write part 3 of this short BFTS RP story arc decently.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, May 13, 2001 03:43:18 PM
IP: max1-11.cwy.cei.net

I'M ALIVE!!!!!!!! Well, last time I checked anyway. But yes I am done with school for a little while till school starts again in June, and I will be going back to work tomorrow so that's good I suppose. What have I learned from this semester... hmm well, I learned that if you have a history teacher who says that you will have to recite the entire book, she's not joking. I learned I hate Communication Design Department, not the field just the faculty. and I learned if you stand in an elevator for two hours wearing all black, a bandana and black sunglasses that you can scare a lot of people. Yes, I did that, for a psychology experiment. Kina fun too, he he.

Now I must return to typing to finish this story for Avalon Mists.

"Don't move, or I'll pup you full of, of bright glowing orange thingies."
-John Criton, Farscape-

Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
back in the hot and muggy, oh wait that's every where in Texas, Bayou City, tx
Sunday, May 13, 2001 03:33:41 PM
IP: ac911b66.ipt.aol.com

Did Madoc know about Lapin's niece, where Nimue was hiding or where Lancelot was living?
Altron
Sunday, May 13, 2001 01:06:18 PM
IP: 205.213.142.101

Shadowrider: Don't worry, we're fine. As fine as two people can be after the betrayal of friends, a huge argument, and almost an entire night spent apart just because one wanted to confront the aforementioned friends while the other felt they needed some air more. I'm not gonna go into details as to what exactly happened- it was bad, leave it at that. <motorcycle rides with your love> I enjoy those too. Never done one on an alpine road though. I'll have to try that somewhere down the line. See you next time you're able to stop by.

Beth: Condolences on your early blooming. But hey, at least you survived all the ridicule to become the wonderful mature nice person you are now. That's more than can be said for a lot of people. :( Congratulations.
Kit
Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:45:38 PM
IP: pool-63.52.169.127.dlls.grid.net

On my post about having a body of a porn star at the age of 12...

Hear me out! Puberty sucked for me! I was the only girl in the 6th grade who had a budding feminine body! You know how with some breeds of puppies when their feet grow first and the rest of them has to grow into them? Same thing with my chest! It sucked royaly!!! I had to wear oversized t-shirts and baggy jeans to keep people from thinking I was easy! It also sucked when people 10 years older than me would call me ma'm or older guys would hit on me! I hated it!!!

Had that to the trama of being an outcast of elementary school, and yeah, that was my life. :(
Beth H.
Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:12:27 PM
IP: adsl-63-195-144-108.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net

Final passage for me this weekend, people. Well...there is not that much I have to say. There is a probability I will be at home again next weekend, in this case I will show up for sure.

Winterwolf and (cousin) Niamhgold (;)):> It was very nice to meet you again. Hope I will be online again soon. Pass my hellos to Dreamie. See you soon!

Warpmind:> Hey ya! Long time no see!

That's all. Take care everyone! <waves and exits>
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Sunday, May 13, 2001 11:11:53 AM
IP: h217-166-12.mi2.albacom.net

*Warpmind enters, chewing on something no longer definable.*
Hey, gang. Shoulda posted earlier, but was too busy playing catch-up'n'stuff... I'm sure there's some underlying irony there, but... :/

Oh, and I just heard "Puff, the Magic Dragon" on the radio today... on some "Golden Oldies" stuff dad was listening to. I'm turning 22 this fall, and I had NEVER heard that song before. Somethings just not right with this world, and I'm in the epicenter of it...

Anyway, here goes last week and up until now.

Lexy: I'll see if I can't conjure up a few non-attending Gathering members... but, since the show never aired in Norway, that'll be difficult, since I don't really know anyone who's either devoted or gullible enough...

Robby: Scars? SCARS? I've got a scar, alright... L-shaped scar on my forehead, mostly covered by my left eyebrow; got in when I slipped on ice in kindergarten when I was... two? three? Something like that... So, yes, if anyone here had ever wondered, I DID hit my head as a child... };) (Actually, I was damn lucky - less than half an inch lower, and I'd probably be using a monocle instead of glasses today...)

*Passes on Best Wishes to Keith and Stephanie.*

Spike: Beedoo's ill? Aww... *Wishes, prays and hopes*

Christine: So Black Roses is almost ready? YAY!!! *Begins prowling.* Let us know when it's available... }:)

Wilek: Well, this Sanders woman definitely needs something inserted into one bodily cavity or another. Preferrably something with spikes and high voltage. *Grrr* Want to take away my stress therapy? Tsk, violent games don't cause violent behavior. If anything, it makes violent behavior a tad more CREATIVE! (Anything worth doing etc.) And that little gizmo is going to be on top of my list... imagine playing Dungeon Keeper with that? *Shudder* Those Bile Demons... *Choke* Oh, and that RPG character you wanted (the one running away, right?) needs some fine-tuning. Could you e-mail me with a few pointers, and I'll reply with what I had in mind?

SJ: So, if you have a big SUV, you have a tiny schlong... what does that say about me, who doesn't even have a driver's license? }:)

Aaron: Yeah, probably a slinky... well, for the past couple years, it's been a knot. Oh, and check your e-mail.

Josh: *Evil grin* So you haven't noticed that, by all accounts, I'll be spending most of my time with Lynati at G'01. But, judging from comments about my voice, made by her, Lain AND Gunjack Valentine, I kinda suspect that I'll draw the ladies to me like moths to a flame... or is that like flies to a dungpile? };) As for "good man" and "getting it taken care of", well... I reckon patience goes a long way, too... often several years at a time... becoming a ULC minister sure helped; now I often use Eternity as a perspective. }:)

Gside: Actually, I don't look too good in purple and green... However, purple or crimson and BLACK, now there's a good villain. }:) And no speaking aloud the High School in the CR. Tsk, tsk. By the way, I'll be needing some help for your RPG character.

Lynati: Glad to hear you don't have a wife and two kids. *Snuggles close* And since I'm online again, I'll let your answering machine catch its breath. ;)

Fire Storm: Virgin blood won't be a problem, I'd say. First, there's THIS! *Presses a small button, and a wall panel opens, revealing a large bloodbank.* And if that won't help, I'm sure Wilek can be of assistance. Right, Wilek? };)

Spike again: Oh, that Fanart Fight Club picture is GREAT! I can't wait until you start taking commissions again in earnest. (Or have you, and I've missed it?)

Beth: He's spineless and frightened? Sounds like a perfectly normal male to me... You go, girl! }:)

Josh again: Silver Mercedes? "Let's dance"? Someone's been watching Mortal Kombat too many times, I'll wager... ;)

Beth again: Look like a porn star at age 12? *Opens mouth.* *Closes mouth.* Nope, not gonna say it. SOOOOOO not gonna say it...

Douglas Adams demise: Aw, shoot... Well, now the Hitchhiker's trilogy is DEFINITELY ended... :/ Here's to ye, Douglas, may every sci-fi con have a pan-galactic gargle blaster set aside for ye...

Well, that about sums up this post... at LAST I'm up to date... And I'll probably keep working with my RPG now. Anyone who wants a cameo appearance, feel free to e-mail me about it. I would also appreciate some creative subquests and definitely some witty book titles and inscriptions for tombstones. In advance, thank you. Pasta la pizza, guys.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@usa.net]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, May 13, 2001 10:51:40 AM
IP: mp-217-204-109.daxnet.no

Just to clarify on the topic of Gathering 2001 supporting memberships: $5 is being dontated directly to Make-a-Wish for each supporting membership purchased, and the rest goes toward the Gathering Fund, which is what helps make sure these conventions continue. Every supporting member will also be receiving a certificate of appreciation, have their name listed in the convention program book (if registered before June 1), and is elligible to win a free Gathering 2001 t-shirt in a random drawing to be held at the Awards Banquet. I see some people expressing the opinion that we're not giving enough to make it worth one's while to be a supporting member, but that's just a matter of opinion, I guess. The main goals here are to help charity and to help make sure the Gathering lives on... so that this year's supporting members will have a chance to attend a future convention.

Lexy > Thank you again for your hard work and all your support. We really appreciate it.

Josh > It's nice to see you're maintaining such an optimistic outlook.

BTW, just to dispell any rumors before they start... there is virtually no chance Jonathan Frakes will be stopping by during the convention. If his plans haven't changed from when we initially contacted him, he's not even going to be in the country that weekend.

Just THREE DAYS of pre-registration left for attending members. Have your registrations and/or payments postmarked by May 15, 2001!

http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org
Patrick Toman, Vice Convention Chair - [gathering2001@art-chicks.com]
Sunday, May 13, 2001 10:22:20 AM
IP: ac87e1f1.ipt.aol.com

Hola, people! Well, let me tell you...as far as I'm concerned, there is nothing better in a Saturday of May than a long motorbike ride, on a good alpine road and with your love on the rear seater...I could do it everyday!

Douglas Adams is gone? I is not a good new, for sure...I was only 14 when I've read for the first time the Hitckhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and It's been one of my preferred since then.

Winterwolf:> I hope as well, but I see you're busy...;)

Dreamie:> Thank you so much..and, for anything else...see above...;)

Kit and Doug:> Good to see you both before I leave. I hope you're having no problem...and I hope we'll catch up at least for a short time before I leave. See you.

Lexy:> <membership> I'd like to take part, and I eventually tried, but my card is not abilitated for this kind of operation, and right now I have no time or opportunity to get the abilitation. I apologize.

Alright, then. See later.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Sunday, May 13, 2001 08:16:15 AM
IP: h255-20-175.mi2.albacom.net

Imzadi: Sadist. Odd way to describe Kit. Yes, I suppose she can be a sadist. <grins> But she is never that way without a positive ulterior motive. I hope Beth takes her advice. There is merit to your suggestion that she "just jump the guy's bones," but that might make things move a little too fast. Good things are worth waiting for- I should know. Before I met Kit I was waiting for a good thing, a really good thing, my entire life. <sighs>

Nice collection of CR dweller icons btw. Yours does look like a surfer, though I can't say whether or not he's gay. It's cool, Dreamie did a good job drawing. Revel and Winterwolf also look cool, as does Arianna. :) You know, Coyote did a gargified pic of Kit a while back- maybe you can add it to your collection. I don't mind, I'm sure she wouldn't either. Click my name for the link to his webpage where the pic is displayed- Kit's the brunette garg on the right in the kickboxing stance. Just airbrush out Rosanna and you got a cool CR dweller icon. Or you can leave her in and get a cool duo icon. Might want to ask Coyote for permission to use his character in your collection before doing that though. I'd give you a Gargs-Universe pic of me too, but nobody's ever done one. Maybe I should get one commissioned sometime. <shrugs>

I am tired now, I must sleep. Hopefully Kit will get back soon. She left for a walk alone, I don't want to discuss the details of why. Certain people know them already, and they're the only ones who need to. I just hope she returns before it gets too much earlier. <frowns> Later.
Doug
Sunday, May 13, 2001 03:34:11 AM
IP: pool-63.52.169.43.dlls.grid.net

Another day wasted because the powers-that-be (my boss) demanded that I work today. I didn't take a single call, which means that for 9 hours of work I made ZERO dollars. Do you have any idea how offensive that is?

Today, I unveil Dreamie's rendition of me as a gargoyle on my icons site. Click on the link and check out the "other" picture, where I am slowly collecting CR members as icons. The opinion of this engineer and his roommate is that this gargoyle looks like a "gay surfer"...but then I've been told that *I* look like a "gay surfer", so I guess its pretty damn good. I am neither gay nor a surfer...discuss.

Ya know, people thinking I'm gay wouldn't be so bad if it got me chicks. But it doesn't. This makes me incredibly bitter. Are there really that few skinny straight guys why don't like rap?

Question for the CR: Does anyone think that Marina Sirtis or Jonathan Frakes (if he's there) will understand my shirt that has only the word "IMZADI" printed front and back?

Greg: <<incanation>>: Thanks...that clears it up a lot. But I think if Oberon made the "lock", it stands as fae magic. Maybe we'll get lucky and the next mortal to recite it will randomly blow up (hey, no one said mixing magics was ALWAYS dangerous). <<merlin in Manhattan>>: Thanks again. You could have just referred me to it instead of posting it, but whatever.

Winterwolf: <<icon>>: Well, you look nearly as fetching as I do.

Lynati: <>: Its my unbridled pessimism. By saying "never", I prevent myself from disappointment. No matter when the stories show up, I'm always happy that they did. Otherwise I'd be bitching that they were late. Trust me, you don't want me bitching.

Dreamie: <<If it says "Dim Sum" on the sign I'm all for it>>: I SO have a place for you! <<you actually wear>>: No comment, as usual. <<Both of 'em?>>: Yes. But you can tell which head learns faster by seeing which one grows faster. 8-)

::Walks over to the huddled, wimpering Lexy and hits one hand against the other, creating the sound of a strong slap::

GET A GRIP ON YOURSELF, WOMAN!

What is your problem? Most of us are starving college students. Do you have any idea what $15 is to a starving college student? Its 5 dorm meals! Or two trips for a slightly more decent fast-food meal. How dare you demand that of all of us! Its enough for us to be able to send one ourselves, but you want us to ask our friends and family, who definitely care nothinng for Gargoyles to donate money for some TV show?! Do you have any idea how rediculous that sounds!? I don't know about anyone else in here, but my parents would tell me to go fsck myself. I just shelled out $60 for the gathering, and I'm probably gonna shell out another 40 for a friend. But the only reason I'm going to Gathering is that its in my hometown. I'm not gonna be at next year's Gathering in all likelihood. I'm pretty wealthy and I still find it horribly offensive for you to be begging us like that. So I can imagine what other posters feel. We aren't losing hope, and its not that we don't care. And how DARE you imply that. I have bad news for you: if all of the 200 people currently GOING all got a person to sign for non-attending membership, that'd be 400 people, and Disney still wouldn't even give bringing Gargoyles back a second thought. I dream for the future, but lets be realistic. Without a massive cult uprising, Gargoyles is never coming back. We keep it alive through TGS and the fandom, but that's IT. So get a grip on yourself and calm down. You want to get people to sign up, then do it. But there's no reason to harass all of us into demanding that our mothers/friends/etc buy into our hobbies. That's just wrong.

Kitainia: <<Then stop doing that and don't touch him>>: So you recommend the "show the candy and take it away" approach? Sadist! 8-)

Beth: Ignore Kit. Just jump the guy. No self-proclaimed straight male will resist.

SJ: Congrats on graduating...you lucky bastard. I've still got a week before I'm HALFWAY through. <<gathering crap>>: I agree wholeheartedly. <<Miss Universe>>: LOL. <<hot israeli chicks>>: There are hot israeli chicks? No way.

Gside: <<what would your reaction be>>: Back away...slowly. <<Care to repeat it?>>: Sure. The fundamental "handedness" comes from chemistry. The word, though, is chirality. Left and right-handed molecules are referred to as "chiral", and in fact it turns out the that universe has left-handed chirality. <<What about the zebra stripes and third eye?>>: On some parts of my body...

Look at me! I'm talking to treif!
-Uncle George, Duckman

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley for 6 more days!, CA, US of A
Sunday, May 13, 2001 02:58:36 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Condolences to the friends and family of Douglas Adams, and all those who shall mourn the loss of the stories he had yet to tell.

Imzadi> <<Hey, I sent an email too!>>: Then thanks to you too.
<<Are you going to gathering?>>: It is not planned at this time.
<<I'm gonna wear a halter top just for you!>>: And what would your reaction be if I were to do that for you?
<<The fundamental "handedness" comes from chemistry>>: I don't seem ro remember that one. Care to repeat it?
<<If you need a lot of blood, that will be gross>>: I believe there would be an unusual percentage of necrophlliacs in black magic. Which reminds me, I miss THL.
<<No nipple ring>>: What about the zebra stripes and third eye?

And a happy and relaxing Mother's Day to all mothers out there.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, May 13, 2001 02:28:59 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Steps into the room for a moment...

Douglas Adams passed away?? Whoa, he just spoke at my college, I think on 4/27. And I missed it, too, because I was a range officer for the campus pistol club that evening.

*observes a moment of silence before exiting*
Yooper_99 - [jwprusi@mtu.edu]
MI
Sunday, May 13, 2001 01:10:58 AM
IP: civpc10.cee.mtu.edu

Lexy: Alright, PayPal problems solved, memberships purchased. Happy now? Please see that one is in my name (Douglas R. Elder) and one in Kit's (Lisa S. Telman). Thank you. :)

SJ: Congrats on graduation. May you enjoy the well-earned fruits of your hard labor. :)

Beth: Congrats on getting David to go to prom with you, going with someone you like is better than going stag any day. I too recommend the touching encouragement method Kit suggested, and add that you should meet his relatives and friends and let them see you touching him. This is so that he knows you are comfortable having him as your guy- thus he will be more comfortable having you as his girl. And more touching will result. :)

A moment of silence for Dolly. I never knew you, but I'm sure you were a good dog to Jannie and all her family and friends. One also for Perry Como, whose singing I too enjoyed very much. And one for Douglas Adams, whose writing was more often good beyond compare than bad beyond compare. So long, muse of comedy, and thanks again for all the fish. :)
Doug
Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:53:26 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.55.dlls.grid.net

Ho hum, what have I been doing the past few days....Oh yeah, I graduated from college. Besides that, my week kinda sucked.

What an ironic situation: it now looks as if Robert Blake will be walking the Green Mile before Timothy McVeigh.

To do a bit of Week in Review, those were the two big stories from this week.

One, the FBI screwed up (again! For only the one millionth time. Anyone remember Waco? That was the FBI screwup that started the Oklahoma bombing mess, from which came the McVeigh trial, which has now been screwed up by the FBI! FULL CIRCLE!!!), and so now, ironically, Tim McVeigh has an off chance of walking instead of getting the needle. Well...maybe not, but if his lawyers appeal (and you never know), he COULD get a new trial. It's doubtful that he'd win that one, but regardless, it's just the FBI being wacky again. So the Attorney General, John "I'm not nearly as masculine as Janet Reno" Ashcroft has delayed the execution for a month. What a killjoy. I had already bought the popcorn and was planning a party.

But speaking of utterly horrid law enforcement agencies, the LAPD is now handling the Robert Blake (or Mrs. Blake) murder trial. This so has O.J. written all over it. In fact, I think O.J. DID do it. But if you look at all the facts of the case, things do look real weird from Robert Blake's end.
I'm looking forward to the trial.
And if you ask, "What trial?", you're not paying attention. Like I said, this has O.J. written all over it.

I'm thinking Robert Blake must have been reprising his role as the Mystery Man / Death from David Lynch's "Lost Highway". He was the scariest goddamn thing about that film.

Gathering crap: Waittaminute--you have to pay money just so you'll get your name in some book saying "Hey, wish I could have been there." Pardon me, but what the f!ck is the point? That's worth money??? "But it's for charity!"
Well, a third of the proceeds are. Allegedly.
But since when do I care about charity? For 15 bucks, I'd expect at the very least a t-shirt worn by Marina Sirtis (sans bra, of course) or perhaps someone could steal me Brigitte Bako's lacey underthings. Hell, her hotel towel would do (but only if it's been used). But just to have my name in a book? Please!

Douglas Adams: I can't say much good about him, because frankly I know very little about him. I've never gotten around to his work, because I usually tend towards more of the serious sci-fi.
But it's a travesty when this guy drops dead at a relatively young age, and Tim McVeigh gets another month of life on this planet.

For those of you who did not watch the Miss Universe pageant last night, I did it for you, and I am proud to announce that of the numerous lovely young women who "competed" (can we really call it a competition? Let's be honest--if this pageant, and its equivalents, wanted to have real contests they'd give prizes for "Lowest IQ Points" or "Best Bulimic Performance"), Miss Puerto Rico won. I don't think her first name was Caliope, but a guy can hope.
Technically, I'm claiming this as a win for the US of A, since we do own Puerto Rico lock, stock, and barrel. Our property, our win. So, we claim this win as a victory for the United States!!! [Of course, as soon as they start talking about all the bombs we drop on them for our military tests, we Americans will go deaf, dumb, and blind.]

I was somewhat pulling for the politically active Ms. Israel (that's my solution to the Middle East aggression--really hot Israeli chicks. What Palestinian can resist?), the versatile Ms. India (who, on top of being a model/actress, is also a VJ for MTV Asia, has recently been accepted into the Indian Air Force, for some illogical reason), and the underdog, alleged transsexual Ms. France (who really isn't a man, nor has she ever been one, but if she was I'd have to admitt that the surgeons in France would be the greatest in the world).

Now, to complement Josh's earlier post:

Du
Du hast
Du hast mich
Du hast mich gefragt
Du hast mich gefragt
und ich hab nichts gesagt

NEIN!!!
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:34:49 AM
IP: 66-44-65-246.s500.tnt6.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Hey everyone, we're back! One very long truck ride encompassed the trip, then Doug's sister Sarah's plane was delayed for a day- we had to wait on it in Nashville, another long truck ride in a very crowded truck was the drive back. Still had a fun drive, Sarah and I became pretty good buds. :) Now to catch up...

Lexy: Doug and I are having trouble getting a supporting membership because Paypal won't accept his credit card. Please wait a little longer- thanks for extending the deadline, Gathering Staff.

Jannie: Condolences on Dolly's passing, hope she and Reverend Atilla are now enjoying the Beastlands together. Congrats on making it to Missouri, hope your new life there can be established soon.

Beth: Congrats on getting David to attend the prom with you, that's a big step. Hope y'all have fun. As for the touching problems, well, I'd recommend the method I used with Doug when we had a similar problem early in our relationship. Touch him a lot when you're around him for a few days, constantly encouraging him to touch you back in subtle ways (offer him your hand, your cheek, your smile, etc). Then stop doing that and don't touch him when you see him until he touches you first. Break him in slowly, get him used to touching you, and be sure to show him how you like to be touched. You'll get good results, I guarentee. Best of luck. :)

A moment of silence for Douglas Adams, whose works I have enjoyed, and also for Perry Como, whose singing could always make me sigh. <sighs and chokes back tears>

That's all for now, I guess. Later!
Kitainia
Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:27:08 AM
IP: pool-63.52.171.55.dlls.grid.net

Whew, it took about an hour and a half, but I finally finished catching up on the CR! Well, that and answering all the e-mails that have been piling up over the last week or so...
Work has kept me really busy, and by the time I get home, I never seem to have enough time to do much of anything.
Anyway, not much to say right now, I think I'm going to bed soon...
Just thought I'd poke my head in and say hi!
I hope everyone has a wonderful rest of the weekend and upcoming week, and Happy Mother's Day to all you Moms out there!

Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Michigan
Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:18:51 AM
IP: dialup-166.90.224.142.dial1.detroit1.level3.net

Ok OK WHAT IS GOING ON HERE??? I just checked the list for non-attending members and it stands at 9 ppl..I sent in FIVE OF THEM! *sighs* come ON guys..:( why is everyone losing hope?? Why isnt anyone trying for this show anymore..this is so sad... This seems so dumb. Why are we having so many guests? Why are we making TGS? why are we doing any of this?? Isn't part of the reason we are writing TGS is for the show? So why is this not happening..*just dosesn't understand..*

*hides in a corner and sobs*
Lexy
Saturday, May 12, 2001 11:22:47 PM
IP: acadbf3f.ipt.aol.com

**RP RELATED**
This is a stupid question, but have I made DPH in the BFTS RP too powerfull?
Part 2 of this 3-part story arc is coming today. No violence in this part.
**END RP related**

116499028 - guess what the significance of this number is.

I went to my mom's grave today with a friend who happens to be a woman. Afterwards, I went shopping with her (my dad's birthday is tomorrow and need I say more). Then we went out to eat and I helped her with getting over the moron who is her ex.

I went to sleep at 2:00 am today. I got up ~ 8:00am and got something to eat and proceeded to get back to sleep ~ 10:00 am when the moron wouldn't let me get back to sleep.

**DIGIMON**
So much for my theory that the control spires were an attempt to hasten the return of Apoclymon (sp?). What's the deal with Myotism's new 3rd form? Sheesh, I thought it was very clear that he was killed last time. At least, the 1st prophecy about Cori's digimon and the 2nd about mega-digimon was supposed to leaved Myotism very DEAD.
**END DIGIMON**

**BFTS RP continues**
*sometime after events in the Realm have passed*
*Mother's Day tribute to my mom, a true gift and role model*
A portal opens to a graveyard. DPH starts looking around to found his mom's grave. He reads a poem:
J is for jewel, cherished and rare.
U is for unfialing love to share.
A is for achiever, intelligent one.
N is for natural laughter and fun.
I is for innocent, love you impart.
T is for talented, gifted, and smart.
A is for affectionate, gift from Above.
Juanita, so precious and loved.
DPH spoke a lot of other words to his mom and started crying.
**END BFTS RP for now**
In case you didn't catch it, my mom's name was Juanita.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, May 12, 2001 11:18:41 PM
IP: max1-60.cwy.cei.net

Hey guys! It is me here again.

I don't mean to be mean..so please don't read this post in an angry way. I am just confused. We all come here everyday and chat and post. i assume we do this because most of us like Gargoyles, and not just this room. I checked through after I posted the non-attending memeber post, and the only person who replied saying they would send anything was Kitainia (plus Doug). I am not trying to bother ppl here. I am just shocked. I mean I understand, being a student, that it costs a ton to go there in person, but is it really so much of a commitment to get someone to fill out a one page form and hand you 15 dollars? I know we arn't made of money here, but that truly isn't a huge fee for getting on the non-attending list. It isn't as good as being there I know. I would rather have as many ppl go as possible, but if you or friends you know can't go then please take the time to fill out just one of those forms. I keep talking to ppl and they just keep telling me "eh..too much work" WHY??? *weeps* Anything we can do to get gargs back we should try..at least try right?? *wimpers* PLEASE!! Make it your mission to just get one form filled out, and sent before June 11! I so far have five non-attending members (soon to be more) and 3 actually attending memebers going with me this year, and I am so dang broke I am having to room at a hotel some 30 miles away and catch some form of transportation to the con and back! I know we are all broke, but just ONE form. That would more than DOUBLE our current list of memebers!! That is insane for so little work! Not to mention this money also goes to Make-A-Wish. Come on ppl!! You wouldn't want to make me cry would you?
*curles up into a little gargress ball and wimpers as ppl go do other things*
Lexy
Saturday, May 12, 2001 10:40:49 PM
IP: acadbf3f.ipt.aol.com

Josh Wurzel- *hopes she spelled that name right* *LOL* NOPE My posts are always spelled wrong dude. I have NO spell check on this piece of junk computer, and when I post it is always something I can do between classes and such. So I have just given up typing beautiful posts, and just write as fast as I can and deal with ppl laughing at me. It's pretty annoying really..I have always been a great English student. And I can recognize when something is spelled wrong, but for some reason I still make mistakes on my own without knowing how to fix 'um. So just be like everyone else in here. Rol your eyes, shake your head and sigh when I use soul for sole, or Greg W's personal favorite (when I make up words:P)

To everyone else- Looks like the staff for the Gathering 2001 is extending the non-attending membership deadline letters post marked by June 11! So ask a friend!! Ask your mom! If every person here just gets one person to do this we would be that much better off!!!

-Lexy
Lexy
Saturday, May 12, 2001 10:23:14 PM
IP: acadbf3f.ipt.aol.com

I'll take the tenth spot if nobody else wants it. ;P

Number Ten.
Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Saturday, May 12, 2001 10:17:51 PM
IP: adsl-141-155-109-10.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net

And now, for your daily dose of Rammstein

Willst du bis der tod euch scheide
treu ihr sein fur alle tage

NEIN
NEIN!

Oh, yeah, one more thing: NINE!
hehe ninth 8-)...always wanted to do that
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, May 12, 2001 09:59:57 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-62.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

8th or 9th
Altron
Saturday, May 12, 2001 09:59:47 PM
IP: 205.213.142.191

Top 10
DPH
Saturday, May 12, 2001 09:58:29 PM
IP: max1-51.cwy.cei.net

Just for the heck of it, I claim #6 in the name of Spain!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, May 12, 2001 09:35:05 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

And I would be fifth ...
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, May 12, 2001 09:34:11 PM
IP: 64.243.214.164

Fourth!

Just a few short days left to pre-register for the Gathering 2001! Have your pre-registrations postmarked by May 15, 2001!
Patrick Toman - [gathering2001@art-chicks.com]
Saturday, May 12, 2001 09:29:07 PM
IP: aca2dbd7.ipt.aol.com

Third.

*does a little "third place" dance*
Lynati Kshudra
South of Sanity, four days and counting
Saturday, May 12, 2001 09:23:46 PM
IP: 207.94.232.45

Which makes me second Todd.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Saturday, May 12, 2001 09:00:30 PM
IP: dialin-514-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Well, it seems that I'm first this week.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, May 12, 2001 08:41:37 PM
IP: ip58.st-louis27.mo.pub-ip.psi.net