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I wonder when the room will be wiped.

Imzadi - the money currently being saved is going towards the purchase of my own vehicle. Once my money saved equals the cost of buying my own vehicle plus $1000 or things really start improving at my workplace, I will purchase my own vehicle. As soon as my vehicle is paid for, I'll be making precise plans to move out. I know the location I'll move to and what I'll be living in until I can afford to have my own house constructed.

At the time this post, the current time is 10:11pm.

You know I'm almost for a random computer wipe of the CR once a week, as long as a computer can remember to save the page beforehand.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, July 21, 2001 07:40:05 PM
IP: max1-66.cwy.cei.net

Josh> I was trying to be good! this darn censor thing hanging over our heads... well, it crimps my style ;)

Jaden> what are your plans for after you get out of the service?

Christine> *nods sadly* yes, I had talked to Jamie about his "retirement" =( Makes me sad to know that I won't be pinching that adorable butt next year *sniffles*

Thanks to everyone who gave me Gathering 02 info! =) I emailed Siryn to volunteer to help with the auction :)

This apartment is so bloody hot! It was 90 degrees in my room today and it doesn't cool off until around 4am. We have about 5 hours of "coolness" in the apt. before it starts heating up again. The AC guy was here and checked the unit out and said it was fine... the problem is either the unit in the attic is bad, the return vent is too small, or the unit itself is too small to hand the square footage, high ceilings and lack of insulation. I have another &*^$ month here, too.. August! *melts*

I'm packing for my trip to Houston. We leave in the morning... or we may leave tonight and stay in a very COLD and air conditioned motel room. We'll be gone for a week and will return with the final misc. items left behind in April and with my son. :)

See ya'll in 8 days!
Jan
Saturday, July 21, 2001 07:14:27 PM
IP: modem19-182.mo-net.com

Hey everyone, going to make this fast because we've got a storm going on and I don't know how long the power will last here. Hey! I was the last post last week? As in I was almost the first this week? Just missed it.

Imzadi- Yeah I'd like to be in LA too.

Green Baron- Save money, hee hee, ha HAHAHAHAHAHA! Sadly that isn't so. Some things ARE cheaper here, like $400.00 suits costs only about $140.00 to be made, but the truth is that most people can't help but spend money just to keep from going crazy with boredom. BTW you think CQ is bad, try staff duty. You get 24 hrs on and about 24 hrs off for a week. Is bad! It would be kind of cool if we could meet here, but since I have only 77 days, 12 hrs, and 58 minutes left here...;)

Planet of the Apes- I've seen them all and they all pissed me off because there were easy ways to avoid all of the problems they just wouldn't do it because they were afraid of something they didn't understand. And I'm probably going to go see this one when it gets here at Camp Casey.

Battlefield Earth- It wasn't that bad, but it didn't follow the book from the first minute that it started and ended about the middle of the book.

AH! The Internet cafe is losing power from the storm! Connection failing must post...losing...*crack*...*static*.
(Everyone looks at Jaden)
Hee Hee
Later

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Saturday, July 21, 2001 06:31:12 PM
IP: 211.237.77.49

** Niamhgold enters **

Woo-hoo, my computer's letting me back onto the site. Unfortunately, I've had a looong day (running off prints of my Weird Sisters' picture; I had to drive all over the place because our office ran out of ink in our printer, the soonest we could get a new cartridge is on Monday, and I had a friend who wanted one today...; Art in the Park 30th annual exhibition, where I had volunteered to help my boss (who's the chairperson of the Arts Council), and, finally, grocery shopping because my mom's van died). Plus, I found out the ball joint on my Oldsmobile's front right is rusted, so my car squeaks and the axle is threatening to loosen. Whew, busy day! I barely had enough time to go swimming before I had to pick up my prints...yep, long, tough day :)

Therefore, longer post tomorrow. I'm going o work on some art instead tonight, and veg out. Potato style, I think ;) Long post tomorrow!

Adios to everyone, hope y'all had a great day! :)
Niamhgold
Saturday, July 21, 2001 05:45:49 PM
IP: lac-flex149.ncia.net

*leans in*

*grimaces in distaste in downstairs direction*
"Akane's Baka Song" was never more appreciated than at this point.
*makes obscene gesture in downstairs direction, away from the CR*

AANyway...
*waves at all CR people*
Hiya.
Say, can anyone in here confirm or negate the fact that Jeff Bennet did the voice for Aladin's Mozenrath?
...and does anybody in here know if the guidebook for the dice game "Carebears: Call of Cthulu" is online anywhere?

yeah. Well, I'm going to attempt to get to my room now. wish me luck.

*Gone*
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Saturday, July 21, 2001 04:04:13 PM
IP: 207.226.219.73

Gargoyle 2002 Convention: Finally, one I'll actually be able to attend! {unless, of course, my saying that scares everyone else away}.

Imzadi Wurzel: <And of course, in the one fight, Lex is taken out in the first couple seconds. Ya know, us geeks are a bit more resilient than that, not to mention the fact that we tend to stay OUT of harm's way instead of putting ourselves right in the line of fire.>

I think that was their way of keeping the odds even {if that makes sense} - though can you imagine the angst if Lex had to take out Maggie?

<Although it did have a great line: "Fight like a man!" - Fang. "I'm not a man, I'm a gargoyle!" - Brooklyn.>

I love that line!!

*sudden mental image of Fang at Jurassic Park - any of them* *evillgrin*

Rodlox
Saturday, July 21, 2001 10:59:24 AM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Christine > Cool pics. I see I ended up in there a couple times. And Crzy ended up in about half of them... hmm... ok... so how much did she pay you? :P

Myhr rocks... hearing that Jamie's retiring the character now just makes me that much more glad we had him come out.

The Gathering 2002 web site should be going up in place of the old one very soon. I've been helping Siryn out with converting over some of the registration materials so anyone who missed the chance to sign up at G2001 can begin registering right away. :)

As for costumes... I'm planning (scheming, actually) to totally outdo myself next year. I have already begun the search for supplies and dug my hot glue gun out of the attic. >:)
Patrick Toman
Saturday, July 21, 2001 09:55:25 AM
IP: adsl-64-109-192-5.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net

Jan > I had promised to send Jamie some pics, especially of him with my sis-in-law (with whom he seems to have a genuine thing for <g>), and just heard back from him. Damn, but it's a shame he's retiring Myhr. He just returned from a BatB con and they did a tribute to him with clips and pics from 9 years' worth of cons. Such a sweet guy! And for the record, he said he'd LOVE to do a cover if Kathy posed for it ; ) Are we going to get any hints about this costume of yours?

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, July 21, 2001 09:16:42 AM
IP: 18-091.075.popsite.net

Jan>>> As I understand it, the Gathering 2002 page is nearly completed and hopefully will go up next week. You can direct any questions you have to Siryn, the G02 can chair at siryn7@aol.com.
Spike
Saturday, July 21, 2001 07:54:29 AM
IP: adsl-208-190-38-83.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

quick questions....

How do we go ahead and register for G02 Gathering? How can we go about volunteering to help out?
I know it's a bit early - but is there a webpage in the making for this upcoming Gathering? with some contact info?

thanks!
Jan
Saturday, July 21, 2001 06:49:28 AM
IP: modem18-107.mo-net.com

Imzadi: You're reading the StarWars travesty? Do they get any better? I've read through the first half of "Balancing Point" and I must say: I've hated all of them. The one by Mike Stackpole was okay, but all the others had vacuum-like qualities. If they get better after those, I may pick them up again.
Azrael - [azrael_2099]
Arlington, TX
Saturday, July 21, 2001 04:27:10 AM
IP: 63.170.182.2

Imzadi: <Its a pretty cool feature, I'm trying to decide if the $43 is worth it to transfer data to my laptop at 30 MB/sec instead of a free crossover cable that transfers at 1.5 MB/sec. That's pretty much all it would be used for.>
$43 more for a 20X increase in speed?
Is there really a question?
30MB!

Hell, I spent $200 for a 10x increase in my LAN speed (10bt vs 100bt).
That was for 2 100bt switches and a half dozen NIC's... plus the $50 for the PCMCIA (I can't say PCCard) 10/100 nic.
Fire Storm - [Jeremycbcd@usa.net]
Friday, July 20, 2001 11:35:49 PM
IP: 206.25.115.145

LOL! I just saw a Round Table commercial with Thom Adcox. I heard the voice and then..."Hey, its Thom Adcox!" It was a really funny ad where Thom talks about how chicken is gonna out rank other forms of meat. The best line was when Thom said "Sausage...is toast!"

Anyway, we spent the day at Squaw Valley today, where my mom and I pretty much chilled out by the pool and read while my dad and bro played tennis and swam. My brother also did a little wall climbing...he's a little wuss though. Nowhere near as good as I am, and I'm not that great (though I love doing it anyway).

Finished yet another Star Wars book today: "Edge of Victory I: Conquest", latest in the Yuuzhan Vong series. This is a really gruesome set of stories, I have to say. The Vong are a race from outside the galaxy that exists outside the Force; that is, the Jedi cannot sense them. The mutilate themselves and others as some sort of disgusting sacrifice to their gods, they revel in pain and death. They use no machinery, only bizzarely mutated creatures as space vessels, weapons, communcation devices, etc. Its just really disgusting, especially the way they mutilate themselves and their slaves.

"The Cage" is on tonight. I don't think this episode was that great. It didn't have any glaring holes in it, it just wasn't that interesting. I guess its kinda disappointing since it shows the depths our characters can sink to. Goliath kidnapping Sevarius, Maggie leading the mutates to the clock tower, Brooklyn trying to take advantage of Maggie's distraught condition (well, he was just trying to endear himself to her, but whatever). And of course, in the one fight, Lex is taken out in the first couple seconds. Ya know, us geeks are a bit more resilient than that, not to mention the fact that we tend to stay OUT of harm's way instead of putting ourselves right in the line of fire.

Although it did have a great line: "Fight like a man!" - Fang. "I'm not a man, I'm a gargoyle!" - Brooklyn.

Bought a couple of new Dilbert books today...as usual they're a riot.

Hey, I need an opinion from the geeks in here. Should I add a SCSI card to my G4 tower for $43? The card isn't so much for attaching external SCSI devices, as it is to rapidly send data to my Powerbook via SCSI-disk mode, where I use a SCSI cord to connect the laptop to the tower and treat the laptop's HD as an external SCSI HD. Its a pretty cool feature, I'm trying to decide if the $43 is worth it to transfer data to my laptop at 30 MB/sec instead of a free crossover cable that transfers at 1.5 MB/sec. That's pretty much all it would be used for. Geeks? Opinions? Much appreciated.

DPH: <>: I know exactly how you feel. I use sleep to avoid reality when I'm depressed or stressed. This makes me very irate when someone tries to wake me up. <>: Ah, a truly glorious landmark. Best of luck staying there. <<thoughts came to me about moving out>>: Great. Now how about some action towards that end?

Baldy: <<I'm not even getting paid properly for it>>: If you were in the US, I'd tell you to file a complaint with the labor board. <<ARCHCENSORED>>: What does that mean? <>: Good thing you don't have my job. <<that *almost* gave me a headache>>: I'll try harder next time. <<just a few hundred bucks.>>: Which is exactly the amount I'm trying to get back from United Airlines on a flight to Toronto. <>: Doubt away, but try explaining how he gets a date. <<I'm afraid I'll wind up talking like Yoda>>: And with you're accent, that could be really weird. <<Tsk, it'll get better>>: Yeah, she could get a mac and not need either. <<four seconds on full auto>>: Badass!

Aaron: <<cologne that smells like $100 bills>>: $100 bills don't smell that great. And I don't think chicks are as attracted to the smell of money as they are to the appearance of money. I know because they like a BMW, they don't often say "are those 100's I smell?". <>: Whew! Had me worried. <<And now you know. And knowing is half the battle>>: And the other half is having the sh!t scared out of you when your enemies jump out of the brush. <>: Well, at least your breasts are ;-) <<Owwww. No need to be mean>>: I wasn't being mean, I was just trying to explain how to pull aaron. Though I guess the leash would work too. <<I'll never be as famous as Gorelisa, but at least I'll be remembered>>: Depends on who you talk too. I'll remember you far more than Gorelisa.

Lain: <<scary funky-@$$ keyboardy thingie>>: I love those things. I miss it since I've transferred to a laptop, not sure if I'll go back or not. <<like i know what ergonomic MEANS anyways>>: It's a BS word devised by consultants and lawyers trying to find ways to extract money from employers.

Jan: <<Rest In Peace, Josh>>: Oh, if only I could. I'd have left it all so much sooner. <<puts in a Barney video and begins singing off-key>>: Bah. Not so impressive. I can sing off-key with ANYONE! <<Here's something kind of eerie>>: Great, just what everyone needs.

Gside: <<60lbs force>>: I know Aaron doesn't think he's "beefy", but that's a little low. <<you were doing it to them>>: In your wildest dreams. <>: Doubtless. <<I'd say it'd be gone rather quickly if it weren't plugged up tight>>: Like, say, in a jet's fuel tank. <<Why make when you're already there?>>: Hey! <<But if you learn how to navigate well by smell, hearing, and feel, that would be cool>>: Only in bed. <<I'm sure societal influences had some say>>: Perhaps. But those are gonna be harder to change than my genes. <<And then you have the iguanas with fins>>: The horror! <<Do not question the abilities of engineers>>: Especially a programmer! <<All sitting in a row>>: No way! Yours too!?

In all of history, there have only been a few really good scams...the Loch Ness Monster, Canada...
-Al Bundy, Married with Children

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Truckee, CA, US of A
Friday, July 20, 2001 11:14:25 PM
IP: 206.170.171.78

Hmm. A very slow day today in the CR. So slow, only 1 person posted within 12 hours of my previous post. Only 5 total people have posted since my last post.

Jan - that's wierd. Did I tell you about numbers with me two years ago? I was 22 on 2-2 of 99.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Friday, July 20, 2001 11:11:05 PM
IP: max1-17.cwy.cei.net

Hello lovely children of the dead, damned, or whatever may apply. Sorry I've been gone a few dayz, but rest easy I'm back!

��STILL WISHING I WOULDN'T GET A "FORBIDDEN" EVERY TYME I TRY TO POST!!��

I woulda posted last night, but oh well!!

<>: Will you shut up now?
Yeah, for now, thank you for bein concerned enuf to ask!

Aris, we both know you didn't have to except my apology, but it's great that you did and I thank you for that.

<<Perhaps now Starsinger will return>>
OMG!! I remember her!! She kinda got hit by a stray bullet or sumthin... ::feels bad:: Damn, I've caused alot of trouble...

<<What's the Georgia, Korea part? I don't understand that>>
I love Koreans man!! A korean lady named Pok, yes one of the many Pok's, was/is helping me with my personal war on drugs- sumthin like robert downey jr., but more successful. Anyway, she's really helpin me get off that shyt, and I'm sure sum of you can tell the change in me, compared to what I used to be.
Pok and her elite family are great to me and I feel like I'm in their family so... F**k! I dunno what I'm tryin to say... the meaning's in there sumwhere, right?!?

I'm sorry Lain, I really can't put 2 and 2 together, I mean, I see sumthin there, but it doesn't click.

<<You think I don't know how to spell "school", bitch? How dumb are YOU??>> And so it begins........
Heheh, I really didn't mean for it to sound soo bitchy, but hey, what can you do?! Anyway, how have you been, Dreamie?
JackaL - [feelmeup@home.onxtc.org]
Ga, Korea!!
Friday, July 20, 2001 10:42:15 PM
IP: 216.104.228.154

Aaron> <>: Then why'd you ask us to remind you?
<<what mean you by hippy?>>: Right brainer, though soy products exacerbate the problem.
<<Wolfie and I can wear the Overfiend costume>>: Can I get the Shikima outfit?
<<what would pulling an Aaron entail?>>: 60lbs force, depending on surfaces. But I think it might be a more recent way of saying pulling a Gorebash.

Imzadi> <<no, they weren't doing THAT!>>: Right, you were doing it to them.
<<despite the title, is not a porn flick>>: I am sure there have been such using variants of the title.
<>: Jet fuel is one of the most volitile petroleum products. I'd say it'd be gone rather quickly if it weren't plugged up tight.
<<Me? Never!>>: Of course. Why make when you're already there?
<<Nothing but my genetic makeup can change what I look at>>: I'm sure societal influences had some say, too.
<<Huh?>>: Dark of the Elvenwood.
<<that whole "blind guy" thing doesn't go well with the whole "I think I'm a cool guy">>: But if you learn how to navigate well by smell, hearing, and feel, that would be cool.
<<No one cries when you spill beer on a violin>>: What's the difference between a baritone saxophone and a chain saw? The exhaust. Though I do quite like the low notes on a bari. And the whole thing almost vibrates in your hands.
<<In fact, most movies that try usually get refuted a few years later>>: And then you have the iguanas with fins.

Warpmind> <<there's a lot of amusement in tapping spinal fluid from an unwilling subject, for instance>>: If you puree a brain, does it then become a bodily fluid?
<<assing remark from a shuttle driver in Newark>>: You were in Jersey and you didn't visit? **Insert sarcastic comment about disappointment, etc.**
<>: Do not question the abilities of engineers.

Lain> <<with a loverly bunch of coconuts>>: All sitting in a row.

Jan> <<�rg-nmks>>: Eh? I always put in at least another schwa, and usually some variant of a.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, July 20, 2001 10:35:22 PM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Josh> <<Here's one for the CR: TEXAS!? TEXAS?! ONLY STEERS AND QUEERS COME FROM TEXAS, AND YOU SURE DON'T LOOK LIKE A STEER TO ME!>> That's a very old saying and *sighs* now you must suffer painfully for saying it. Rest In Peace, Josh. ;p *puts in a Barney video and begins singing off-key and loudly with him* I love you, you love me, we're a happy fam.i.ly With a great big hug and kiss from me to you, won't you say you love me too? *grins*

Here's something kind of eerie:
Add the following numbers together

4-19-95 (Date of OKC Bombing)

9:02 (Time of OKC Bombing)

6-11-01 (Date of Timothy McVeigh's Execution)

7:14 (Time of Timothy McVeigh's Execution)

4 + 19 + 95 + 9 + 02 + 6 + 11 + 01 + 7 + 14 = 168, which happens to be the
exact number of people killed in the bombing.

Lain> er�go�nom�ics (�rg-nmks)
n.
1. (used with a sing. verb) The applied science of equipment design, as for the workplace, intended to maximize productivity by reducing operator fatigue and discomfort. Also called biotechnology, human engineering, human factors engineering.
2. (used with a pl. verb) Design factors, as for the workplace, intended to maximize productivity by minimizing operator fatigue and discomfort: The ergonomics of the new office were felt to be optimal.

I knew what it meant, but decided to give the "official" definition instead of layman's terms. ;)

Christine> Great pictures and Gathering activities journal! :) Best of all, you gave Myhr's website addy!! *drools*

Aaron> *chuckles* I was just using you and Revel as an example and I was trying to keep it clean! ;p I didn't think it would be appropriate to mention noticing size of your personal package ;) I don't think I ever saw your butt... it was hidden behind the trench coat whenever I'd see you. Not that I was particularly _looking_ for a peek ;) I had my hands full with keeping up with Myhr's butt... pun intended ;D He autographed a picture for me and signed it "buttman" *L* *giggles*

Costumes for next year's Gathering... I have taken Greg's "challenge" and will have the FUNNIEST costume there *nods* Not gonna' tell what I'm planning, but I believe ya'll will find humor in it ;) hehehehe
Jan
Friday, July 20, 2001 08:28:18 PM
IP: modem25-318.mo-net.com

yo. im at my friend menomenons house using his really REALLY scary funky-@$$ keyboardy thingie... [Hey there! It's just ergonomic is all... ah well.. I'll let lain back in.. just remember.. live juicy.. drink sunsets!]
(i dont have THAT many alternate personalities, trust me.. well, okay i do but menomenon isnt one of them.. honest... why are you looking at me like that?! like i know what ergonomic MEANS anyways : P) l8r
lain "with a loverly bunch of coconuts" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White Freakin Awesome North
Friday, July 20, 2001 05:54:16 PM
IP: cr1022616-a.lndn1.on.wave.home.com

Josh> <<Couldn't I arrange to smell like chocolate or something else that would attract chicks?>> Try Eau de Franklin, the cologne that smells like $100 bills. << A plushie or the real issue?>> I want a theatrical rerelease, without being sabotaged this time. Although, a plushie of Maro would be cool too. <<I'll use modern terms: democrat.>> I can't be a Democrat! I'm pro-2nd Amendment and pro-death penalty. <<Wait, what villagers?>> Once upon a time, there were two brothers. The younger one bought a game called Baldur's Gate, and then was bummed to find out that it wouldn't run on his crappy computer without upgrades. The younger brother had no money, and the older one was too cheap to spend what little he had, so the game went unplayed. Years passed. The younger brother acquired some money and bought himself a Sony VAIO, which could run BG easily. And so the younger brother started roaming the land as a chaotic neutral bard by the name of Slim Shady, who liked to do terrible things to random commoners, just for the Hell of it. And now you know. And knowing is half the battle. <<Like your breasts>> I feel so loved. <<Also good for long car rides.>> True. I think my butt was the only piece of my body not trying to go to sleep coming back from A-kon2K. <<Step one: grab ponytail. Step two: exert force in a direction away from Aaron's head.>> Owwww. No need to be mean. I do have a leash, you know.

Baldy> All of the above, I think. <<Or is that woman? I still haven't managed to shake that image from the masquerade...>> Yaye! I'll never be as famous as Gorelisa, but at least I'll be remembered.

Christine> Cool pics. And I meant that your employers probably don't want folks surfing the porn sites from work. Silly people.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, July 20, 2001 02:51:39 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

After much delay -- sorry 'bout that -- my Gathering photo album is finally posted. Also new: a cute pic of Aiden and Birdie by Carri, and a new vignette from Kimberly.

Find it all with a click or go to:
http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

Warpmind > well, actually, after some deliberation I elected not to put in a complete Criticals table for GURPS Sex ... ; )

Stephen > I am arriving in Atlanta on Friday morning and leaving Monday afternoon. I'm still not clear on the details as to how available the new book is going to be, but let me know how many of the old ones you want and I'll lug them along! Hope you can make it.

Aaron > well, sheesh, if I can sit there and _write_ it at work, what's wrong with people reading it? LOL, though, of course, there's generally nobody around when I do.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, July 20, 2001 11:28:51 AM
IP: 15-132.075.popsite.net

*Warpmind enters, looking weary.*
Okay, I've got a job, as a temp at the library... HOWEVER, due to a minor beureaucratic error, I'm listed on a 37.5 hour weekly schedule, and I'm not even getting paid properly for it. Which is because I'm on social benefits, and this is just to "keep me occupied until something permanent comes around". *Grumble* Fair enough, I can do with something to keep me busy all day... but why the *CENSORED* are they EXPLOITING me by setting me to work 37.5 hours weekly at the library, without the RIGHT amount of pay (By my estimates, I get about 900$ monthly in social benefits - if I was paid for this job instead, I'd get at LEAST three times as much for a full-time job!), and the library's open twelve - 12 - hours per week. That's over 25 *ARCHCENSORED* HOURS per week that I'm stuck on my own, registering books in the electronic databaase. And I despise all things database with all my heart! (Well, okay, mainly the database creation process, but the rest is so DULL...) *Sigh* Oh, well... All alone, got a coffee maker in the back, and I'm making progress in Discworld... could have been worse... a LOT worse...

Anyway, replies are overdue...

Gside: The amount of fun depends on the bodily fluids... there's a lot of amusement in tapping spinal fluid from an unwilling subject, for instance... };) As for the Lamborghini insurance - no challenge; just a passing remark from a shuttle driver in Newark... (I had to get a motel room there on my way back, because the plane I first meant to take was WAY overbooked...) And this necromancer don't resurrect drinks... Just make sure you're not around for late-night rituals. };)

Josh: Aw, poor finger of yours... you know, that *almost* gave me a headache... almost. As for getting you into Canada - can't help you. I had a ticket back to Norway. Besides, the fare on the Greyhound isn't *that* bad... just a few hundred bucks. And here's a little tip: go to the nearest car salesman, ask if they need a car driven up to Canada. If so, they're likely to supply gas, as well as actually *paying* you for the job. (The same trick might be done for the return trip, as well.) And I kinda doubt your roomie's a necromancer... alcoholic, maybe, filthy rich, maybe, but probably not a necromancer. ;)

Kyryn: I'll bet I'm gladder that I did. ;)

Christine: Yay GURPS Sex. Hope to see it in print, if only for the laugh of it! (Let me guess... the Fumbles are hilarious, right?) And I'm looking forward to seeing Knight of the Basilisk - I'm afraid I'll wind up talking like Yoda. };)

Aaron: What do you mean, I survived something you don't think you would have? The Gathering? Canada? The eight-hour flights? Be specific, when you're not oblique, man! (Or is that woman? I still haven't managed to shake that image from the masquerade...)

Lain: Aww... no drivers for you? Or Winzip? Tsk, it'll get better. (Have you gotten around to send me the pic yet? Huh? Huh?)

Hi, Courntey. (Or is that a typo, and it's supposed to be Courtney?)

Dreamie: Whip would not be a good weapon against me. I've used one myself (and suffered the appropriate accidental self-flaggelations, one of which actually hit me perfectly on top of my head - and I wasn't wearing my hat that day) and am pretty much capable of disarming you swiftly, were that the case. Unless, of course, you decide to go two-weapon style... ;) Remember - whips are pretty easy to defend oneself from in the long run - they're only painful at the tip, and are too easy to get tangled around an arm or leg. ;)

Oh, right... SOROW! Sorry I haven't e-mailed you yet; just been too busy getting the cards in their right order again. (They got a big jumbled on the way back. About ninety unsorted cards - yowza.)

Oh, by the way, I had a real good time at laser tag recently... there was a guy shorter than me, and I flicked to full autofire, snuck up behind him... and clamped my hand firmly around the top of his skull, holding him in place, while I kept racking up "Great Shot!"s in his back sensor for four seconds on full auto... the bonus was AWESOME! (But for some reason, he seemed a bit upset about it later... I wonder why...) }:)

Well, on a different note, I'll leave you with a little poem...
The Spears and Aguilera girls,
one's phony, one's a tart;
I'd like to be specific, but,
I can't tell them apart...

See ya later, everyone!
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, July 20, 2001 04:15:39 AM
IP: garibaldi.ti.telenor.net

Ok. so I am little stressed lately. *sees stares from the the shadows* ok. I am beyond a little stressed, but in fact quite stressed. My dad has been home waking me up for almost the past 2 weeks. When he stresses me out, I have this tendacy to spend more time avoiding reality. For the TGS staffers, that explains my actions as of lately. Yes, it true I probably need seek conselling. But they won't do me much good as long as I keep living that **censored words**.

In other news, I am only $20 measily dollars away from the goal of having $3000 in my checking account ($2000 of which I have planned to use as a downpayment for my own vehicle). My goal is not to spend over $100 between now and next direct deposit paycheck to finally get over that $3000 hump and stay that way for a while.

Again, I apologize for being in the current mood I am in.

Actually, thoughts came to me about moving out and telling my dad "I have to find my own way in the world and you are hindering me from doing that.".

I am trying to plan a stress leaver for this weekend for me (an outing/spending time with a friend). If that goes well, I should be in a much better mood. Only problem I have with that is I have trouble saying 'good-bye'. I can't bring myself to say those words. Maybe it's because I don't want to leave the state of happiness or maybe it's because 'good-bye' to just too final for me.

**A saddened DPH just leaves the room, almost crying.**
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:17:11 PM
IP: max1-67.cwy.cei.net

Hey folks!

No great news today. The laptop that my dad had shipped up here (so he can do work) arrived today, and hows this for a teaser: it was shipped in a G4 tower box! How much does that suck!? God stuff like that just makes me itch to order my new machine. I probably will in the next couple days. mmmmm...

Mike Dell (of Dell Computers) was declared CEO of the year by some magazine. Maybe now he'll stop copying and trying to one-up Steve Jobs at every turn.

Finished "Rogue Planet" today, and I bought the most recent Star Wars book, which I'll hpefully finish in a couple days.

Today is kind of a relaxing day. Hanging out at the house for lunch and dinnner, right now we're watching "When Trumpets Fade", an HBO movie about WWII (one of many).

I guess I really am a decent tech support person. I picked up a copy of MacAddict today and it lists 50 bugs for macs and how to fix them. I knew all the repairs by heart. I rock. As if there was any doubt (and as if I needed a magazine test to prove it)!

Mom made pasta tonight, it was pretty good. After dinner we went for a little hike in the woods. It was very calming and we saw a pair of deer (no, they weren't doing THAT!).

Now we're watching "Some Like it Hot", which, despite the title, is not a porn flick. Its a comedy with Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis playing a pair of jazz musicians who hide from the mob by dressing as women and playing in a women's jazz band. Its hysterical. And Marilyn Monroe isn't hurting my attention span either. Of course, that's just the kind of pig I am.

There's this great line in the movie about the stock market. The movie takes place in 1929, and right in the beginning Tony Curtis says "Stop living in 'what if's'? What if you get hit by a truck? What if the stock market crashes?" Heh, heh. I couldn't stop laughing. Okay, I'm a total snob, I'm laughing at stock market jokes. I'm pathetic.

Fire Storm: <<There isn't anything better than the smell of Napalm in the morning>>: Then you're not doing it right. <>: Yeah, that guy was a d!ck. <>: Then get right back up and ask Pyle what his malfunction was.

Here's one for the CR: TEXAS!? TEXAS?! ONLY STEERS AND QUEERS COME FROM TEXAS, AND YOU SURE DON'T LOOK LIKE A STEER TO ME!

LM: Hey, FS doesn't think you're better than the smell of napalm in the morning ;-)

Niamhgold: <<Probably because the bus driver was walking>>: 8-P I got it first! Toldja I could be more competitive.

Patrick Toman: <<she MUST be cast as Fox>>: Nah, she's too short. <<why do dumb people keep going BACK to that island?>>: Because they can't formulate a decent way for the dinosaurs to escape. <>: Not all fuel evaporates quickly. I imagine jet fuel is one that doesn't. Not the same as the gasoline in your lawnmower, which evaporates in about 12 seconds at room temp.

Xanathar: <>: I know the feeling. Hope you get well soon. <<always a nice thing to see smoke pouring out the back of your computer>>: Especially right after you've sunk money into it. <<US price would be around 75 dollars>>: Good deal! <<no distributors to hick the price up>>: No warranties, no returns...no thanks.

Jan: <<It's just that the sonagrams can only definitely determine if it's a boy>>: I wonder if it worked on (insert name of some guy you hate). <<making a fool of yourself>>: Me? Never! <>: Its not a macho answer. I've been ignored by girls most of my life. It doesn't bother me. It never will. I'm quite immune to people's opinion of my appearance. But I understand where you're coming from. But the fact that you told me your miniclan friends have crushes on me doesn't change anything. I was attracted to who I was attracted to. Nothing but my genetic makeup can change what I look at. I don't expect people to be attracted to me. <>: Feel free to take my place, that way I can sit at home with my nose in a book. <<I'm considering buying another motorcycle too>>: Boy does that sound like fun. If I wasn't so terrified of them, I'd probably buy one myself. <<no disrespect to your state, but you are living in Arkansas>>: I think that's more than enough disrespect for it ;-) <>: You're obviously a horrible parent ;-) <<things to do, places to go and people to see>>: I've got things to see, places to go, people to do. ;-) <>: If you lived in LA you might have a different thought, because our men in uniform beat people with night sticks.

Taleweaver: <<How could people who couldn't even do math fly complicated machinery in two weeks?>>: Despite air force tests, it doesn't really take much math to fly a jet into battle. Getting home, however... <<how could intergalatic conquerers with a love for gold, miss Fort Knox>>: Did they hit Tiffany's? <>: A documentary?! In the box-office!? No chance.

Fire Storm: <<when I had a V-8 that ate through all the seals and hoses after a measly 5 years>>: Harriers are a lot better than your V-8...though its still unrealistic. <<Come to think of it, that movie DID suck!>>: Heh, heh. <<TO leech or not to leech>>: LEECH! <<Does the end value justify the expense?>>: Only if you're willing to go to an arcade and shell out equal amounts of money in its place. <<Is it worth it?>>: Microsoft office? No way! What a crappy overpriced piece of bloatware. Though much better on the mac than on the PC (yes, believe it or not, this is true, and has many PC users bitching at microsoft), there's no reason to use it when Appleworks does all the same stuff, can translate file types between both platforms, and costs a mere $80. <<That 5% would have probally never even considered the software if it wasn't for piracy>>: This is true. But once I see the price tag, my "considering" ends there. If I don't buy it then, I probably never will. In conclusion, I steal a lot of software. I'll probably steal more when I switch to OS X. But with so many friends who are software developers, its harder and harder to justify it. I try to buy some software, but I can't buy it all. Its just not worth the price.

Rodlox: <<though I was refering to _JURASSIC PARK III_ in theaters now>>: I know. It was a joke. Wait a few months. <<go see the aforementioned movie...and tell me if you still hold that opinion>>: How about "Brooklyn and Lex can hold guns and frikkin laser beams"? <<no offense to illustrators intended; just an observation>>: The illustrator messed up. Check out her wings in the cartoon. <<what is it??>>: Actually, its a pteronadon, judging from the preview. But nevermind the details. Pterodactyl would be much closer than Cearodactyl.

Lain: <<im also sticky about grammar things and spelling>>: Me too. American grammar and spelling! <<it does not mean that i am unaware of the propor placement of punctuation in sentance structure>>: Yeah, right. Tell it to E.E. Cummings. <<dont be too jealous of the computer parts>>: I'm not jealous of the parts. I'm jealous that you get to sit in a room full of machinery, even if it is dead. <<metRE>>: Well, at least you use the metric system up there, even if you can't spell it. <<thats right josh, youre a priest in the new religion.>>: That's not good enough! I want to be GOD! <<that kinda makes bill gates into the pope>>: Actually, it makes Bill Gates more like Satan, since he's trying to use the information for corrupt reasons to bend people to his will. Think I"m wrong? Read up on .NET, hailstorm, passport, smart tags, and activation. <<im trying to point out the absurdity of information being GOD>>: You'd think, being an atheist, you'd be in favor of promoting religion OVER blind faith...<<however im sure josh will be glad to pass the collection plate>>: Contribute to the Josh for World Dictator fund! Eliminate the evil of Bill Gates once and for all! <<doing my virgin>>: Wouldn't that make it not a virgin?

Revel: <>: Buwahahahahaha! <<who needs them when you got two perfectly good feet>>: Hard to stop a car at 60 MPH with your feet. <>: ::breathes in and out several times:: Nope, didn't help. ::wrings hands nervously:: Must have new machine!! <<-yikes->>: Yeah, its not a pretty site. <<it made Waterworld look good>>: Wow. It must have REALLY sucked. <<DotE>>: Huh?

Yooper: <>: Its $8-9 in Los Angeles.

Kyryn: <<slang is one mechanism by which languages change>>: "nite" is in the Oxford Dictionary as an alternate spelling of "night". Its a crazy world. <<the creators of Jurassic Park were using fragmentary DNA>>: It doesn't seem very likely that they'd use fragmentary DNA. Cloning is expensive enough as is. They'd try to use as complete DNA as possible. While possible that they could clone dinosaurs we don't have a complete fossil record for, its unlikely they'd use DNA from one and come up with another. Impossible, in fact.

Green Baron: <>: Oh, you and I should never be in a room together. <<Thank God for that>>: I know the feeling. <>: So scary.

Dreamie: <<More than I ever expected>>: Makes sense. There was some pre-gathering drooling coming from someone, but I think that's about it. <<up until a few years ago I thought anyone who looked at me that way must have some sort of mental problem or severely low standards>>: I still think that. So far, I haven't been proven wrong. <<If someone had asked me out then, I would have in turn asked how much the bet was>>: Someone asked, and I asked about the bet. They weren't happy. <<yet, what would the prize be>>: The "Revel Award". <<..........kinky>>: Of course it is. But only because we interpret it that way. <<Well gee I hope so>>: If not, I imagine he'll find out in a few months... <<Not necessarily>>: Wait a few years. <<you already have a "I think I'm a cool dude" air about you>>: Yeah, I just need to evolve it to the reality instead of the fantasy, keep it permanent, and I'll be made. Irresistable. <<Wolfie is the best thing that ever happened to me and we have no intention whatsoever of letting each other go>>: Good for both of you. <<Show me a person who can hate wolfie and I'll show you a person who has a severe mental imbalance>>: I've got a severe mental imbalance and I still can't hate him. <>: Fortunately, I have a rapidly evolving immune system. <<No actually...*I* would have been very happy>>: No, I had it right the first time. <<Dreamie_Sit>>: Sounds like a command to me. <<Cream>>: Supplied by Josh. <<Whip possible choice>>: Use something that requires less skill, like a double-bladed battle axe. <>: Would you do me a massive favor and let me in on it? <<Or as we like to call it, "Gallopin' Girdie">>: Or as we call it, "I didn't do it, no one saw me do it, can't prove anything!". <<Extra strength mush blocking sunglasses?>>: And I'll need a cane to walk around. Cuz they only way they'll work at Gathering is for them to be painted over black. And that whole "blind guy" thing doesn't go well with the whole "I think I'm a cool guy". <<And so it begins>>: I have no intention of participating in any sort of flame war with that mindless excuse for a poster. If I'm gonna be involved in a flame war, it'll be over something fun to argue about, like abortion or something. <>: Fortunately, my idea was better ;-) <>: We've noticed. And you probably shouldn't say that in here. <<Do I have to train a weapon on you at that time?>>: Probably not, as long as there's a sniper nearby. <<under the right conditions and a tactical removal of your macho shell, you would be>>: You aren't the first girl to say that, and you won't be the last. But you've all been wrong. It may be a shell, but underneath isn't a sweet guy. Its a scared little boy. Good luck finding him. Very Darth Vader-type stuff. <<Cartman is one <censored> up little sh!t>>: Yeah. In the last episode he said "do it or I'll kill your parents." And then Kyle said "yeah, dude, he can." It was pretty funny. <<:::falls over laughing:::>>: Why was that funny? Aside from the fact that I'm bitching about a touchpad? <<but I'll luckily have a laptop>>: I do too, isn't helping me much. <>: ::smells armpits:: Do I smell like bread and no one told me?! If so, is that a good thing? Couldn't I arrange to smell like chocolate or something else that would attract chicks? <<He knows us too well>>: Sharp as a tack.

SOROW: <<LA was my graduation present>>: Cool present! <>: Go to more gatherings! ;-)

Niamhgold: <<but at least I can get the basics down>>: That was quite a post for someone who didn't have much time! <<a more technical insanity>>: Like the kind that makes me drool over dual-G4 processors. <<"The Book of Pooh">>: Heh. Bathroom reader? <<Save dessert for last...ah, screw it>>: Exactly! Dessert is the best part! <>: Yeah, we'll tie him to a computer. One other than the one he works on. Then we'll use EST till he posts. <<I'm not supposed to use that one, am I Imzy?>>: No, you're not. Unless you mean it to be as dirty as it looks, in which case knock yourself out. <<Master of the Hill>>: Indeed. Master of many things. Uh, story for another time (and another CR). <<we do not, for reasons that only the elves inside my car hold, get South Park>>: One point against Niamhgold. There's not much to get. Its toilet humor and obscure Denis Miller-type jokes. <<Comedy is not available through our Adelphia service>>: Really? We get comedy on Alephia. <<Hey, mister, do you wanna come into my shop and see some old paintings sometime?>>: Sure... ::bow chika bow bow:: <<ignore what I could come up with for that one>>: Heh, heh. Email 'em to me. <<that's how odd games like minigolf are cool...You are the master at Putt-Putt!>>: No, I'm the master of geometry and physics. Besides, I still lost to both my parents. <<Or darts>>: I'm not a fan of the game, but as a weapon they're a lot of fun. <<Yum Yum!>>: One point FOR Niamhgold. <<thank goodness those Jolly Rancher colors are out>>: Yeah, those iMacs were pretty damn fruity...pun intended. <<As much as I hate to admit the flaws of it on this PC>>: I saw a great ad for Virtual PC today which said "we made it faster, so you can get out as soon as possible" (Virtual PC is a program that lets macs run windows in a separate environment). I laughed. A lot. <<Someone like me will go for the Wyeth paintings any day!>>: Point against Niamhgold. <<since I didn't do it today, half>>: Really? That much? The guy down the street charges me 25% when he doesn't do it! I guess this is a good opportunity to say "I wanna be on top". <<does your dad call you that>>: Yes. <<can't even begin to comprehend how to pronounce it>>: Tell me and I'm sure I'll comprehend. <<"The Man" just _really_ doesn't work for me>>: LOL! <<squirrels are evil>>: Why do you think I spent a summer as a camp riflery counselor hunting them? <<squirrels were soaking their nuts>>: Yeah, I do that all the time. <<Charging the paddles; someone start an IV!>>: Not again! <<Yep>>: I'm sorry. I promise not to do that to you again...unless you liked it ;-) <<Nerd, yes. ::counter devious planning::>>: Sweet. Point for Niamhgold. <<Fruition?>>: Actually, I've never said "Fruition". <<So they're hanging out with you and their standards are high>>: No, I'm a FRIEND. They don't meet my standards...so their opinions of me matter little. Doesn't boost the ego at all. <<But would the nude models be improved?>>: Depends on who you date. <<Can I use that line on pushy clients?>>: Absolutely...as soon as I get the website up and running. <>: That's NOT what made it so dirty. <<Of course, you could pull an Aaron>>: Not in your wildest dreams. Or anyone elses. Talk to my roommate about dressing in drag. <<That one is sitting next to me as we speak>>: Is it still for sale?

Gside: <<You could always throw ice cubes at whipping cream>>: Or not. <<Eventually, with enough others, the extras are really only on hand for variety>>: Well that's the point of a harem in the first place. <<You know I meant the other time last night>>: Yeah, right. <<Pregnant.>>: LOL. What's the difference between a piano and a violin? No one cries when you spill beer on a violin. <<But that would make it a different Zaphod>>: This is true. <<Sounds reasonable>>: I certainly thought so, though I was amazed it took me as long as it did to figure it out. <<On familiar territory>>: Exactly. Same here. <<Movies do not always represent normal behavior of extinct species>>: In fact, most movies that try usually get refuted a few years later. <<Only if you take it personally>>: If they try to soak my nuts, it could get ugly.

Aaron: <>: This is Disney we're talking about, right? <<Or maybe I just want Princess Mononoke>>: A plushie or the real issue? I mean, she's kinda 2-D. <<It would violate one of the rules>>: Which one? Email it to me. <>: Do it. <<That that that that that that that that that that>>: THAT wasn't funny. <<what mean you by hippy?>>: Sorry, I'll use modern terms: democrat. <<things like cats, and Mara, and the terrible, but very funny things my brother keeps doing to those villagers>>: And derivatives and integrals. Wait, what villagers? <<Except maybe counting money>>: Real mathematicians don't consider "counting" to be math unless they start talking about levels of infinity, and at that point we leave the realm of money. <>: I know what you meant. <<there being a lot of more interesting things to look at>>: Like your breasts. <<Good for melding with my chair and playing Diablo for five hours straight, not so good for buying jeans>>: Also good for long car rides. <<neither of us is what I'd call beefy>>: I was gonna say something, but I decided I'd let you two handle it. <>: I just use my Sith senses. <<what would pulling an Aaron entail?>>: Step one: grab ponytail. Step two: exert force in a direction away from Aaron's head.

Okay folks, that's all for tonight. See ya tomorrow!

I got pistol whipped at laser tag.
- Aaron Wheeler, at Gathering 2001

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktotehnuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:13:16 PM
IP: 206.170.171.33

lain> Happy birthday. <<runs away to get covered in MORE paint>> O.o

Welcome back Courtney and Aingeal.

Stephen> You�re entitled to your opinions too, of course. This isn�t the first time our opinions have conflicted, and I doubt it will be the last.

<<What is it going to take to satisfy people like you>> <<until someone gets ahold of their Animation Division _ someone with true imagination, drive and an open mind to explore>> I think you just answered your own question.

What do I want? I want a lot of things. I want a story that doesn�t insult my intelligence. I want a plot that doesn�t have more holes then a wiffle bat. I want adequate time do develop a story. No more eighty-minute films. I want characters that are morally grey, not ones whose attitudes flip-flop to whatever they have be do to move the story along. I want an animated feature not aimed at a pre-teen set. I want more homage and less blatant theft. I want a rich, full setting, one with it�s own mythology. I want characters that are more then one amusing personality quirk. I want an epic story, one that can scare me, make me cry, and give me an adrenaline rush. I want something that can�t and won�t end up with a fast food tie-in. I want Disney run by someone with some *balls*, who doesn�t treat ideas as something to be franchised to death and have every last drop of money wrung out of them. I want Don Bluth retrieved from whatever gulag he�s in and given a division of his own. I want furries who swear, f**k, and shoot each other. I want whoever decided to sequel Lady and the Tramp beaten with a frozen carp. And I wanna Scar plushie, damnit! Like I said, I want a lot of things.

Or maybe I just want Princess Mononoke.

And for the record, I don�t think, I *know* I could do better. If someone would front me half of what Disney spent on Atlantis, I could go to Japan and make two or three kick@$$ movies. And if I couldn�t write them myself, I could at least have the sense to find some truly talented people who could.

Lynati> <<god, I love this bra!>> 0_0

Gside> <<Post that brochure.>> I can�t. It would violate one of the rules. I guess I could post the excerpted funny bit...

Josh> <<Try saying THAT ten times fast>> That that that that that that that that that that. <<You're one of those hippy english people, aren't you!?>> Forsooth, my good sir, what mean you by hippy? <<Like derivatives and integrals, right?>> Noooo, things like cats, and Mara, and the terrible, but very funny things my brother keeps doing to those villagers... Nothing related to math is happy. Except maybe counting money. <<I'll never play tennis either>> Well, I probably won�t either, (way too uncoordinated) but I meant the whole being-at-a-club-that-exclusive thing. <<THAT surprises me, as you're almost as sickly skinny as I am>> You probably didn�t notice, there being a lot of more interesting things to look at, but all the padding I do have is concentrated in my butt. Good for melding with my chair and playing Diablo for five hours straight, not so good for buying jeans.

Jannie> <<"ohmygawd, Aaron and Revel are soooo handsome! They are the beefiest, hunks I've ever seen in my life!">> Jannie, you're not old enough to be senile. And I know you're eyesight isn't *that* bad. ;) (No offense Revel, but neither of us is what I'd call beefy)

Patrick> <<how a fighter jet can sit for 1000 years and still have fuel in it>> They were made by Volkswagen. (Who's up on their Woody Allen movies?)

FS> <<TO leech or not to leech>> To l33ch!

Revel> <<made Waterworld look good>> Oh, c'mon. Waterworld wasn't that bad. I liked it. The only problem was that it was a Mad Max-clone, shot on expensive water instead of cheap Aussie Outback.

Dreamie> <<Costume must have weapon. Whip possible choice.>> Promise? <<Extra strength mush blocking sunglasses?>> I prefer my Peril-sensative set, personally. <<Leather, Japanese, Sci-fi>> Ooh, ooh, you be the Japanese schoolgirl, and I'll bring the Catholic schoolgirl, and Wolfie and I can wear the Overfiend costume...

Niamhgold> <<you could pull an Aaron ;)>> Probably, I don't weigh that much... Seriously, what would pulling an Aaron entail?

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:50:09 PM
IP: dialup-64.154.230.101.dial1.sanantonio1.level3.net

Imzadi> <>: You could always throw ice cubes at whipping cream.
<<Is that 30 or 13?>>: 13. Eventually, with enough others, the extras are really only on hand for variety.
<<To whom>>: The congregation, of course.
<<Yes, actually it is>>: You know I meant the other time last night.
<<What's the difference between a prostitute and a violin player?>>: What do you call a violist with two brain cells? Pregnant.
<<Do I have to?>>: Yes, yes you do. Woah, deja vu.
<<Ask me something difficult>>: But everything else is better.
<<Maybe it did BEFORE he fried off a portion of his brain and he doesn't know it!>>:: But that would make it a different Zaphod.
<<She meant here, specifically. Not in general>>: But either definition applies to me, whereas only one applies to you.
<<He was walking!>>: Sounds reasonable.

Niamhgold> <<Probably because the bus driver was walking>>: There, you're now one up on me.

Xanathar> Heal quickly.

Jan> <<besides them, the other guys weren't too good looking" How would you honestly feel?>>: On familiar territory.

Rodlox> <<go see the aforementioned movie>>: Movies do not always represent normal behavior of extinct species.

Odd thought: What is the probability that the entire population of Canada can sing better than Dylan?

Lain> <<the fact that "madder" is NOT a word>>: If it was in dialogue, it is completely excusable. Thanks a good bit to Twain.
<<not trying to say ALL HAIL INFO>>: And why not?

Green Baron> <>: No? I believe it' something like the home of the Signal Corps., and it has some good research going on there. But then, it is in Jersey.

Dreamie> <>: For some reason, I can imagine Winterwolf being very happy at this moment.

Niamhgold> <>: Nah, I hadn't gotten it, and I saw it before I copied it.
<<Comedy is not available through our Adelphia service>>: Someone there should proabably have some sense beaten into them.
<<squirrels are evil>>: Only if you take it personally.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:19:52 PM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

** Niamhgold enters **

Hi! Don't have all too much time on my hand, but at least I can get the basics down :) At least here I don't need to have sanity (well, as I'm finding out, I also don't need it at work, but that's a more technical insanity ;). And you know I need a break when those commercials for "The Book of Pooh" keep sending me into hysterics...

Dreamie: **Pounces and hugs** Hey! Cool, the explanation about you and Wolfie seems like it was a very nice, first meeting. It was good that you two had the entire weekend at the Gathering 00 to get to know each other ;) <<<You and Wolf...WHIPPED!>> Cream.> "Save dessert for last...ah, screw it" ;-} <Hum... where is that my love? I'm thinking I'll have to tickle it out of you! :::pounces and drags him away:::> Yeah, you'll have to tickle it outta him...because if you don't, I don't think the other locals will be as friendly in getting him to post! ;) BTW, the artwork you displayed at the gathering (as represented on your website) was gorgeous! Was that stuff digitally colored and printed, painted and printed, or original "hard copy" paintings? You have good color technique :)

Gside: I suppose you could ignore my answer to the riddle...I missed that Josh answered it before me, in his post to you. :o <------- Wait a minute, I'm not supposed to use that one, am I Imzy? ;)

Josh: Hola to the Master of the Hill (or King of the Hill, but that would just entail being additionally called "Hank" ;)! <I'm not sure if its funny or lame that an almost 20-year old male still finds fart jokes funny> Heh, just read my above statement about the Book of Pooh, then tell me what you think ;) Unfortunately, we do not, for reasons that only the elves inside my car hold, get South Park. Here, it's shown on Comedy, and Comedy is not available through our Adelphia service (we'd have to pay an _incredible_ extra amount) :( I've only caught a few shows by virtue of a friend who lives twenty miles to the North. But, be warned, that was a year ago... <though I did find some cool artwork I might buy later on> "Hey, mister, do you wanna come into my shop and see some old paintings sometime?" ;) <It was a lot of fun, and I got a few hole-in-one's> We'll ignore what I could come up with for that one... ;) In any case, that's how odd games like minigolf are cool. Or darts; I remember the guys trying to show me how to play at a pool joint one night, and I got three bullseyes in a row. I think they're reaction was something like "bullsh!t" ;) You are the master at Putt-Putt! <17" Studio Display with built-in USB hub and digital video> Yum Yum! (though thank goodness those Jolly Rancher colors are out). <Windows, right? > As much as I hate to admit the flaws of it on this PC................................yes. <Is there any chance I could get a sneak preview?> Sure, if I come up with anything of substance ;) <Hmmm... "Hey ::girls name::, wanna come over and check out a bunch of old paintings my uncle left me in his will?" Nah, doesn't sound as good as "want a full body massage?"> Well, depends on who you're asking. Someone like me will go for the Wyeth paintings any day! <What's it gonna cost for me to stay there?!> Well, since I didn't do it today, half :) <Oh, it was. I am the man (just in case you forgot).> Nope, Mr. The Man. BTW, does your dad call you that, as you asked? I'm trying to come up with a nickname (Niamhgold IRL is out, since most people can't even begin to comprehend how to pronounce it), but "The Man" just _really_ doesn't work for me (and that statement should put several minds to ease! ;)) <What else would I use them for? > LOL. True that, true that. <...but we haven't seen any yet.> Heh, try stopping up here sometime. We have a blackbear and her cubs that come through our yard everynight. We had to take in our birdfeeders after they came up on our porch to eat out of them. One reason I'm glad to inhabit the second floor, and a reason my brother's probably gladder to be on the third :) Of course, if you're hiding your food from Grizzlies, be glad! :) Oh, and squirrels are evil. "It was so hot today that the squirrels were soaking their nuts" (Dave Letterman). <Awww, bestill my heart> Charging the paddles; someone start an IV! <Does that mean you read all that Nerd-gasm stuff?> Yep :) <Are you saying that you, too, are a nerd? ::devious planning:: > Nerd, yes. ::counter devious planning:: ;) Fruition? ;) <Yes. You might consider moving to CA...the guys out here are good looking if my female friend's opinions are to be believed (and they're spoiled LA chicks, so their standards are probably pretty damn high).> So they're hanging out with you and their standards are high; and ego one-up! But would the nude models be improved? ;) <Oh, well then thank you!> You're welcome! <Good, I can send Murphy a kicktothenuts.com.> LOL. Can I use that line on pushy clients? ;) <Sometime between now and the 27th of July ;-)> Date noted! ;) <This just got WAY too dirty for the CR.> Male circuit overload! I would have said I was a one-bow kinda gal, but you can't really have a chicka bow. ;) On this, I'd have to agree. Of course, you could pull an Aaron ;) <Gasp! You've thrown in the word "inquiry"!! That just trashed the whole thing. I refuse to continue this thread until we reinstate the original word> Too tired tonight! <What about the Sisters piece?> That one is sitting next to me as we speak ;)

Greg: Well, then, extend a heartfelt thank-you to your brother for me! :) It's obviously in a good home :)

Must...sleep....Adios!
Niamhgold
Thursday, July 19, 2001 06:45:05 PM
IP: lac-flex203.ncia.net

GB> Sorry I haven't talked to you in a long time. I can't go to any other Gatherings because I am very much in debt and I can't afford to go anywhere. I was lucky this year because LA was my graduation present.
Dreamie> How the hell have you been? <how much the bet was for> *smirks* I feel like that all the time!
SOROW
Thursday, July 19, 2001 06:41:22 PM
IP: a010-0219.dll2.splitrock.net

NOTE to CHRISTINE - Get back to me on DragonCon... especially when you're going to be there and for how long! I think I have a chance to attend for at least ONE day (with the stipulation that I'll have to leave the following day) but I think I'll have the best chance to see you and snag copies of your newest book (and some of the older ones too!) ^_^

E-mail me soonest! Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Thursday, July 19, 2001 06:18:07 PM
IP: 65342hfc61.tampabay.rr.com

Hey hey all! I hope you're all doing well ^_^ (And to all those with teeth problems/aches, I hope you feel better!)

SOROW: <<We had a good time at the banquet didn't we?>> We sure did... I thought the conversation was very lively ^_~ <<We did, It seems we caused a lot of commotion among the boys too ;)>> More than I ever expected...lol. <<Believe it or not, I don't get many of them.>> Good gawds me either... up until a few years ago I thought anyone who looked at me that way must have some sort of mental problem or severely low standards. If someone had asked me out then, I would have in turn asked how much the bet was. ^_~

Emambu: <<I'll be sitting in a corner during the dancing then at G02. I may be Italian, but I'm whiter than wonderbread when I dance. ;)>> By golly I have an idea.... :::thinks about putting together a "bad dancing showcase"::: And yet, what would the prize be.... <<Oooooookkkaaayyyy...>> ::::scratches Wolfie behind the ear causing him to make a contented puppy noise::: <<Because whatever it was, he looked freaky... in a good way. :)>> Yummy. <<to WW:If Dreamie attempts anything at G'02, I'm holding you as a collaborator. ;)>> ...........kinky.

Imzadi:<<Huh, huh. I bet you did, Dreamie. Does Alan know?>> Well gee I hope so. <<I'm surprised you didn't answer this with "DIM SUM!">> I would have, but my other half did instead. <> Not necessarily. <> Well you already have a "I think I'm a cool dude" air about you. <<Not likely.>> I disagree... At the risk of another of your retches, Wolfie is the best thing that ever happened to me and we have no intention whatsoever of letting each other go. <<Wolf is too cool to hate, even if he did snag the recipient of the cold shower award.>> Show me a person who can hate wolfie and I'll show you a person who has a severe mental imbalance. <<Good god ::wretch::. You've set a record! ;-)>> I look forward to repeatedly breaking that record. ^_~ <<See, now if Dreamie had said that line, I would have been VERY happy ;-)>> No actually...*I* would have been very happy. :::eg::: <> Yeah uh... actually I don't think I look very good in that pic. The only one I really like is Dreamie_Sit. ^_~ <<You and Wolf...WHIPPED!>> Cream.

Fuzzy Warpy:<<Oh, and I am, may I emphasize, NOT whipped. Just a tiiiiiny bit insidious, deceptive and scheming. (Rule #1: First, earn their full trust... ya know?) };)>> Note to self: Costume must have weapon. Whip possible choice.

Niamhgold:<> Actually a little of both. After a lot of conversation we figured out that it was sort of an unrealized love at first sight. How were we to know what the feelings we had meant at the time when neither of us had felt them before, hence pushing them aside? ^_~ Now we know there was a reason we kept glancing at each other so frequently at G2K. <<Oh, and obviously, just ignore Imzy's wretching noises ;) I think it's cute :)>> Eh, I *could* ignore them, but I know their significance. ^_~

Gside: <<you're still the ones responsible for Tacoma Narrows>> Or as we like to call it, "Gallopin' Girdie"

Wolfie: :::pounce cuddle nuzzle::: <<Hum, so would that mean Mara would be Winterwolf? O.o>> Now this would be interesting....mara, a muscle suit, and another marker goatee. :::mind starts wondering::: Wolfie and bike shorts. :::droooool::: <<I'd say you'd better limit your exposure and not look directly at us when we are together much.>> Extra strength mush blocking sunglasses? <<I'll be posting again with more replies soon.>> Hum... where is that my love? I'm thinking I'll have to tickle it out of you! :::pounces and drags him away:::

JackaL: Welcome back! <<You think I don't know how to spell "school", bitch? How dumb are YOU??>> And so it begins........

David G: <<Bird feathers are very thin = fine coat of scales that would "turn no blade.">> Actually I had suggested to josh the scales might be a reference to musical scales, since the poem references songs.

Aaron:<<Or get him to do the Little Nicky line... >> With a bra on his head? (yes the one on his shoulders.) <<Dreamie was actually dressed as a commando...>> Actually, I was dressed as a wrestling community gimmick I've had for about 4 years or more. The only thing that was missing was the complete water arsenal and the invisible box of mute imprisonment. ^_~ Now, my only dilemma is, since I have a policy of never repeating myself in costuming, what overtone to use next. ::::thinks::: Leather, Japanese, Sci-fi....huuuuum

SJ:<<Oh, this is why I love you.>> What can I say, I aim to tease...er.. please. <<you too are a beautiful young woman, and I wish that I could have met you in person>> Aw....shucks ^_^ <<And should I ever meet him in person, I would give him a friendly handshake...>> Do I have to train a weapon on you at that time?

Josh:<<Then promptly kill him and conquer her yourself, right?>> I think that would be "Promptly attempt to kill him, then get hog tied and left alone in a janitor's closet." <<<<You're a doll>>: Um...no. I'm generally not even nice. But I do compliment pretty girls >> Ha, I think Sorrow got it right... under the right conditions and a tactical removal of your macho shell, you would be. <<SOUTH PARK ROCKED AGAIN>> All I have to say is Cartman is one <censored> up little sh!t. <<My beef will be getting used to the touchpad. On the iBook, the button conveniently sits right under the spot where my freakin hand rests, so I press it constantly. I'll just have to learn to use a wider hand stance.>> ..................:::falls over laughing::: <<less likely that I'll be around to chat (sorry Dreamie, GXB, Wolf, and Niamhgold, I know you're all crushed).>> I won't be around next week either... I too am being dragged against my will to a lake, but I'll luckily have a laptop. Whenever I have to be away from wolfie it's like hell on earth for both of us. :::whimper::: <<My mom says hi to Wolf, Dreamie, Aaron, and Mara. Alex says hi too.>> Hey hey! <<God thi_ room _a_ dead today!>> Holy Flerkin shnit! <<Why do I always smell bread?>> And interestingly enough, I just realized that was only when you were around. ^_~ <<They're off making out somewhere over the Internet. As if that was possible, not that they'll stop them.>> He knows us too well. LOL

Lynati:<<Hey, hey, Imzadi! I'm no longer miffed about not making your "cute" list.>> For what it's worth....I found you, Jannie, and every other female that I met at the gathering to be beautiful.

Well folks, I guess that's all! ^_^
:::waves, nets wolfie and drags him off with an evil smirk:::
Dreamie
Thursday, July 19, 2001 05:18:22 PM
IP: acb63138.ipt.aol.com

GB> <<Remind me to wear my Class A's when I see you :)>> *drools* Promise!!?! I love a man in uniform! :D

Lain> yes, I know ;p

Jan
Thursday, July 19, 2001 03:10:42 PM
IP: modem19-175.mo-net.com

Hello all. To another wonderful day. Now, if only I'd get those orders.

Jannie> Remind me to wear my Class A's when I see you :)

Well, I feel military service is all a part of being American. As for sleeplesness, I'm glad I get a day to recover :)

Gside> I never heard of Ft Monmouth. Are you certain it's not a weekend warrior base? Well, wherever the Finance Corps is needed, I may be assigned.

Josh> <<Green Baron isn't exactly front lines. >> Thank God for that :)

I haven't seen him in some time. I know he and Lexy are getting married. Attila woudl have taped their post-wedding night if he were alive and sold copies at the next Gathering auction.

Lain> I'm glad you're having fun and you have your computer back ::hugs::

Aingeal> I remember you

Lynati> Well, you and Mara have fun :)
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Ft. benning, Ga
Thursday, July 19, 2001 02:06:08 PM
IP: wcs3.norfolk.nipr.mil

****Kyryn appears in the room.****

Lain> Madder is an actual word. It is the name of a southwest Asian plant whose root was used to make a red dye. If it was used in the context of a verb or adverb, then that usage is a slang usage. However, slang is one mechanism by which languages change, otherwise we wouldn't be speaking modern English (Queen's or American). :)

Rodlox> Actually, Pterodon can be used to refer to any generic member of the order of Pterosaurs. That was probably the sense in which the actors referred to them (unless they were referring specifically to Pteranodons). Given that the creators of Jurassic Park were using fragmentary DNA from fragmented skeletons, it is possible that they could have re-created a species for which we have an incomplete fossil record. There are a number of those in the Pterosaurs. BTW, I've included a link to an interesting page with lots of good Pterosaur information.

Later, All!

****Kyryn fades into the shadows.****

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, July 19, 2001 02:00:50 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

HELP!!!!
I seriously need serious help here, folks. {ha ha}.
**JURASSIC PARK 3 spoiler-question:

in JP3, the 'dactyls have a beak, a crest on their head, and teeth in their beak.
the book JP1 says they're Cearodactyls {which have no crest}, the actors say it's Pterodon {which has no teeth}...and I ask you - what is it??

**end spoilers...please help me!!

Rodlox - [@hotmail.com]
Thursday, July 19, 2001 01:05:32 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Wow, a lot of people have been seeing movies lately. The weird part is, I have too. Normally, I go about twice a year, but I've been to the theater four times in the last two months. I may as well throw in some comments, as well.

***SPOILER WARNING***

I'll just do the last two movies I saw, Final Fantasy and Leagally Blonde.

Final Fantasy: I'll start out saying that the movie was entertaining, that I enjoyed it, and that I'm glad that I went to see it. However, I don't think it would be worth the four dollars to go see it again. Here's why.

I thought the animation was *nearly* perfect, and that "nearly" hurt it a lot IMO. I was sitting there marveling at how you could almost mistake it for a live-action film in many places, then it would have a part where the hair just didn't move right, or the lips didn't sync right, etc., and the difference kicked me in the face. The animation was light-years ahead of any other film I've seen, but the downside is that the flaws were more noticeable than say, Shrek, which had so many such instances that you don't really notice them.

I didn't stay to watch the credits and do research on them, but I suspect that the same people who write FF games had a hand in the story of this movie. It looked to me like you had a bunch of writers not used to dealing with a 2-hr time slot to tie up all the loose ends, which this movie had in abundance. I suspect that if this was, say, FF-XI, that we would see all kinds of text and characters explaining why the ghosts feel the need to strike out at us, why this small chunk of a planet can carry all this stuff, why the laser hurts our spirit of the earth and not theirs, why a general would know which switches and levers to pull to override all the safeties and fire the Zeus weapon when it was already pushed to its limits, (generals usually don't have that kind of nuts and bolts knowledge, they usually concern themselves with the strategic use of a weapon), and a bunch of other things. But they didn't tell us that here. The ending also left something to be desired. My best friend put it best: "That must be where they ran out of money."

On a more personal note, I guess the animism in the storyline didn't do much for me. I, like the general, rolled my eyes when they trotted out the Gaia stuff. This is just me, and doesn't reflect any weakness in the storyline by itself.

I guess I've been really hard on it, and give it a pretty good. (On Joel's scale of excellent, good, pretty good, and bad, bad being reserved for movies that didn't entertain me.) It had its moments, like the first view of the Zeus weapon, and the action scenes were pretty cool. 99% of this is because of my expectations going in. After seeing stuff like Xenogears out of Squaresoft, it was a real letdown to see the plotline of this. If it hadn't had the FF or Square name on it, I most likely wouldn't have noticed many of its weaknesses, and would have given it a good.

This is why I give "Legally Blonde" a good (!) rating. The plotline was predictable, it was silly, and made light of going to Harvard Law School. But dammit, that's exactly what I was expecting when I sat down. Quite frankly, I expected more of it than there was, so was actually *pleasantly surprised.* (This is the same reason that Atlantis rated a good from me.) The first part of it was so saccharine that I had to put my pop down, but it eventually got better. It had its real moments, too, especially when they cross-examined the pool guy. Like Final Fantasy, I won't go see it again, and I realize that I could have nitpicked the hell out of it, even worse than FF, but I usually don't turn that part of my brain on until I'm disappointed. Which is why I'll never be a movie critic.
***END SPOILERS***

Lain>>You know, I don't ever remember seeing "dialogue" spelled "dialog," (ever in my life) but according to www.m-w.com, it is correct. I'm surprised by this too, though I'm certain I've probably come across it somewhere before.

Patrick>><<Planet of the Apes > This is the only movie coming out in the next few weeks that I actually want to go see. The previews look good... this "remake that's not really a remake" might actually be worth the $7 to get in. >>I want to go see it too. <blinks> You have to pay seven bucks to see a movie? Wow. I knew cost of living was cheaper where I live--wages suck, though--but I didn't realize that movies were like that too.
Yooper - [jwprusi@up.net]
MI
Thursday, July 19, 2001 12:14:11 PM
IP: mqt2-pm3-36.dial.up.net

oh suuuuuuuure.. just when i go to leave the library, the downpour begins.. gah.. i am SO not biking to class in that rain, my paintings will be SO ruined...

*sloshes out*
lain "smells like a wet rat" iwakura
the Great White Soggy North
Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:07:10 AM
IP: 198.96.83.132

I NEED ANOTHER VACATION!
(I can hear Josh laughing from here)

Seriously, since Chris went on vacation three weeks ago I have been working six days a week and it is deepleating the little bit of control that I have left. I might have to hit a blunt object... hard. In any case I took some of my money and bought another dragon for my collection at this place called Chimes and Times, or something like that. Why? because I wanted to. Sure brake pads would have been better but who needs them when you got two perfectly good feet.

Josh- I think you need to take a few deep breaths and return to earth from your technology high. (Nerd-gasm) -yikes-

Lynati- you now that I think about it I don't think I took an idividual picture of you at the Gathering. Hmm, ironic since we were all in the same room. Tell Mara hi for me.

Battlefield Earth- I still remember when the said it made Waterworld look good. (Ouch)

Xanathar- Hey now I remembered what I wanted to say, how do feel about New Zealanders? I knew an exchange student from there and she was not a big fan of Aussies. Just curious.

"I do believe that you are the most thoroughly dead man I have ever seen"
-Solarrin- DotE (that was just damn cool)

Later

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:30:00 AM
IP: ac9ccb5c.ipt.aol.com

*limps in*

jannie>> yes yes, they are all "correct" ways of spelling, if you include that blasphemy of the english language called "american-isms" ; ) okay okay, im just kidding. i was only trying to make fun of the differences between americans and canadians cos.. its soooooooooo much fun.. and i admit im a snob for the "queens english" and the fact that "madder" is NOT a word (i was reading a buffy book the other day and saw that and nearly died.. okay, so its a BUFFY book and not exactly yer high class english but... MADDER?? yiiiiiiiiiiiiikes..) im also sticky about grammar things and spelling cos i come from a town that had the peterborough examiner.. a newspaper notoriously bad for spelling and grammar. it was kind of a family tradition to sit down and pick it apart..

now of course you could point out the fact that when i write in here i hardly ever use capital letters or punctuation other than "..." but.. thats kinda my style.. it does not mean that i am unaware of the propor placement of punctuation in sentance structure... honest.. ; )

joshy-poo>> yes, my jesus does in fact include the wooden cross upon which he will be nailed... or crazy-glued as the case may be.. and dont be too jealous of the computer parts.. they are all dead : ( i got them from this place called "CPUsed" cute....
coloUr : P honoUr : P metRE : P hee hee hee... whats wrong with us is that were snobs, thats what ; ) and we know how done spell all goodly yes. ; ) and were proud to be canadians so i guess that makes us even.

oooooooooooo i should tell you WHY im building a jesus out of computer parts.. well one day a while ago i was sitting in my apartment watching the Learning Channel (mmmmmmmmmm learning channel...) and browsing my latest trawl of "christian" literature and came to the conclusion that "GOD" in the modern sense is becoming increasingly replaced by the notion that "information" is "GOD". and then i thought that if information is GOD, then that makes the computer the way to GET the information, and if you read the christian stuff, they say that the way to get to GOD is through jesus.. and then, as it was 4am i began to think about priests in the medieval period who were the only ones who could read.. and how the geeks are the only ones who can read the computer codes now.. the rest of the population just does the point and click thing, like they read the relief carvings and stuff in the middle ages... so if information is GOD, the computer is jesus and the priests are geeks (thats right josh, youre a priest in the new religion.. ; )) and THEN i thought about how that kinda makes bill gates into the pope and.. how wrong is THAT?!
so before i have some of you leaping down my throat saying im promoting a new religion or downplaying the "truth" or whatever, im trying to point out the absurdity of information being GOD, not trying to say ALL HAIL INFO!!!!
(however im sure josh will be glad to pass the collection plate.. ; ))

anyway, time for more painting. i did a painting of gabriel last night (whats with me and all the religious stuff?) and today i might be doing my virgin and child painting. fun fun.

lynati>> moochie is at camp. i called him for about three hours on sunday and we yakked about EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN!!!.. including my new manga he doesnt know im making yet.. tee hee.. i get to draw MANGA gunjack valentine BWA HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! the first one i drew i couldnt help thinking "sheesh, he looks WAY too much like this gay guy i had a REALLY BIG crush on in grade 9.." it was funny..

okay, i really AM going now!!!!!

love you all,
lain "sunjammer" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:03:11 AM
IP: 198.96.83.79

.|- well, looks like Demona's a 'dactyl- & a chiropteran-winged garg. {no offense to illustrators intended; just an observation}.
\./

rodlox
Thursday, July 19, 2001 07:49:41 AM
IP: proxy3-external.owml1.md.home.com

Taleweaver: imho, there's a problem with that {not that I wouldn't want to see it}...that is "how do you distinguish between individual dinos, and how do you sympathize with them?"

it would be like making a two-hour Gargoyles movie {yes!}, but only gargs in it - no individuals with names, purely garg-clan structure.

imho, anyway.

Imzadi Wurzel:
<<the downside of a high metabolism is that they don't hold still>: Try the "freeze frame" feature on your VCR>
thanks for the advice....though I was refering to _JURASSIC PARK III_ in theaters now.

<<anybody know how the Gargoyles {brooklyn, lex, etc} would fare>: Well, seeing as the gargs can fight in midair, I'd give them the better odds. Pterodactyls don't to much but fly in the air.>
*polite but skeptical look* go see the aforementioned movie...and tell me if you still hold that opinion.

<<Hey Rodlox, what does your handle mean?>
Dy-Rodlox, a character from the Quintaglio Ascension {aka Trilogy} by Canadian author Robert J. Sawyer.
Rodlox
Thursday, July 19, 2001 07:46:23 AM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Niamhgold> Yes, that's the one. My brother bought it at Gathering 99 (I was going to, but he got down there first). It's up on his wall right now.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Thursday, July 19, 2001 07:42:17 AM
IP: dialin-1211-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Battlefield Earth: Come on... it wasn't too bad.
I mean, just because they overused the sliding curtian wipes, showed ABSOLUTELY no blood, even if it would have helped the scene, had harriers (THE most complicated and difficult plane to maintain and fly) that worked after 1000 years (when I had a V-8 that ate through all the seals and hoses after a measly 5 years), had a planet that had atmosphere that reacted VERY badly to radiation AND was close enough to a star for life (NOTE: Stars put out HUGE ammounts of radiation per SECOND)...

Come to think of it, that movie DID suck!

Moral delima: TO leech or not to leech
Programs are HORRIBLY overpriced. Or are they?
Lets take a $50 dollar game (Black and White). Lets say it takes you 75 hours to finish it. Thats about $.66 per hour. Not bad, especially when a movie ticket is about $3.20 per hour.
Does the end value justify the expense?

Lets take... Microsoft Office. $900 (Premium)
If you use it for business, thats 40 hours a week, and lets say for 2 years. 4000 hours. (Vacations).
Thats about $.25 per hour.
Is it worth it?

BUT, when you think about it, the reason that some software is so widely used is solely because of piracy. I mean, would as many people be using the $3000 programs like CAD and 3d Studio if it wasn't for piracy? Certianly not. And those people tell others about the program. Which makes more people buy the books for them because they have no manuals (I am pretty sure there are 3-10 copys of CAD, 3d Studio, etc books purchased for every legal copy of the software). And maybe, just maybe, 5% of those pirates actually BUY the software so they have a CD, manuals and support.
That 5% would have probally never even considered the software if it wasn't for piracy.
Do the ends justify the means?

Same could be said about Napster. I hear a song somewhere, I download it. If I like the artist, I download more. If it is worth it, I buy the artists CD's.
Fire Storm - [Jeremycbcd@usa.net]
Thursday, July 19, 2001 07:42:10 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Battlefield Earth> The working harriers was the least of my disbelieving. How could people who couldn't even do math fly complicated machinery in two weeks? And how could intergalatic conquerers with a love for gold, miss Fort Knox. Heck, if they're in Denver how could the miss the Federal Resevere.

JP3> I agree with you Pat. I think they should just do a movie with only the dinosaurs. The Discovery channel has Walking with Dinosaurs and similar series. I think a full-blown box office movie in a similar style could work.

Atlantis> I finall say it over the weekend. Good, but not great. Definately the direction Disney should head in if it wants to get on top of the game. That and ease up on the merchandising push. When it's done right the merchandising helps sell the movie and the movie helps sell the merchandise, but too hard and you have warehouses of Hercules paraphenalia you can't even give away.

Well, I've got a backlog of movies to watch before they disappear from the dollar theaters. Keep up the reviews. I'd like to know what's worth watching right away, what's good for a matinee and what should be waiting for dollar theater.

Toddles
Taleweaver - [taleweaver@usa.net]
Thursday, July 19, 2001 07:19:11 AM
IP: cbl187.pool007.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

Josh> <<Shouldn't that say "boy or girl"? "boy or not" sounds like you really don't want a girl. >> Actually, Anna and I think the baby is a girl - which is great with me! It's just that the sonagrams can only definitely determine if it's a boy. (in most cases)
>>: I wasn't aware you were miffed in the first place>> well, while you were oogling and drooling and basically making a fool of yourself over Dreamie and Sorrow, you excluded several other very pretty young ladies in your posts. Lynati is one of them. She's very pretty and yet you didn't even mention her. Rayvn is another one. There were alot more and yet you continuously excluded them. Then you went on to say that there were not many cute gals at the Gathering... reverse the roles here for a moment and see how you would honestly feel... if one of the gals came into CR and drooled, ooggled, and fell all over themselves about ... ummm, let's use Aaron and Revel.. "ohmygawd, Aaron and Revel are soooo handsome! They are the beefiest, hunks I've ever seen in my life!" *drool drool* "oh yeah, besides them, the other guys weren't too good looking" How would you honestly feel? No, I don't want your macho answer of how it wouldn't bother you, etc.
Do you understand the point I'm trying to make? I'm certainly not angry or anything like that - I'm just trying to point out how you made some of the gals possibly feel.
<<Green Baron isn't exactly front lines.>> no, but he said that the Army has taught him to go without sleep... he and the other soldiers will need that for when or IF they ever go to the front lines ;p
I envy you for going on the bike ride! I love bicycling but haven't had the opportunity to do it in such a long time. Hopefully once I get settled into my house, I'll be able to start back with it.
I'm considering buying another motorcycle too. There are some beautiful areas to ride here. I sold mine after moving to Houston - traffic was too horrible to feel safe on a motorcycle.

Stephen> awwwww! Congrats on being able to spend some time with Heather! =) She sounds like a very sweet lady!

Coyote> <<Just was reading in S8 Main that "Team Atlantis" has been officially flushed down the crapper by Disney.>> drats! I was looking forward to seeing this! *bummed*

DPH> bummer man! Then again, no disrespect to your state, but you are living in Arkansas. O.o That state is not known for it's advanced technology. =\
Your dad waking you up at noon... *shrugs* I wake my son up too if he's sleeping that late.
How old are you? Do you attend school and/or work full time? If you are able, why don't you just move out? If you're old enough, you don't need his permission or blessings to move.

Daniel> where are youuuuu? Haven't seen you post in a while!

well, I've got things to do, places to go and people to see... tahtah!

Jan
Thursday, July 19, 2001 06:09:27 AM
IP: modem19-175.mo-net.com

Hi all!!

I didn't get a wink of sleep last night and I've spent most of the day at home in bed either with a fever or throwing up everywhere,I'm only just starting to feel better.I hate being sick and I don't care if I got to stay home from work(all my jobs will probably be piled up when I get back there. :( )

Lain:<<have you ever smelled motherboard? it smells REALLY funky..>>Yep,I've also smelled burning sound card(always a nice thing to see smoke pouring out the back of your computer filling the the room with the smell of burnt metal :/ )

Aingeal:Welcome back! :)

Josh:<<So that's what, $2.38 US? Anyway, sounds like a steal. I'll have to consider one for my new tower as well.>>I'm not sure about this but I think that the US price would be around 75 dollars, I bought it at a swap-meet.(no distributors to hick the price up,so the finacial differences arn't so vast in this case,at least I think thats how it goes,I could be way off here.)

I've gotta go,tablets to take :(.

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Thursday, July 19, 2001 04:58:43 AM
IP: cpe-203-45-26-71.vic.bigpond.net.au

** Niamhgold enters again **

Darn it, remembered another quick thing...
Greg: Yes, that just _could_ be my old 99 painting...with Canmore silhouetted against the moon and the gargs sort of taking off from the Eerie tower in the distance? Ooh, that would be cool to find out where _that_ one went! ;)

Adios!
Niamhgold
Thursday, July 19, 2001 03:49:22 AM
IP: lac-flex170.ncia.net

Josh > O.o (returns the blank comment)

Seen on TV > Did anyone else see last week's episode of "Just Shoot Me"? Laura San Giacomo's character was all dressed up in fine fashion to attend a charity ball, making her look more like Fox than ever (she MUST be cast as Fox in any live-action version of "Gargoyles," IMO). And Lucy Lawless guest starred. Perhaps the TV crystal ball sees sitcoms in her future now that the "Xena" series has been violently (but mercifully) put to sleep.

Jurassic Park III > From a review I saw yesterday: "This franchise has become 'Godzilla', but with better dubbing." What I want to know is... why do dumb people keep going BACK to that island? You'd think they'd learn after suffering the first two times. Or not. I hear "Survivor III" is in the works, too.

Battlefield Earth > I watched this on cable the other night. My new word of the week is "leverage." >:) I would also like to know how a fighter jet can sit for 1000 years and still have fuel in it. I can't leave the lawnmower sit in the garage over winter without the gasoline evaporating by spring. :P

Planet of the Apes > This is the only movie coming out in the next few weeks that I actually want to go see. The previews look good... this "remake that's not really a remake" might actually be worth the $7 to get in.

:: leaves his 2 cents and scampers off to work ::
Patrick Toman
Thursday, July 19, 2001 03:46:48 AM
IP: ac8b0633.ipt.aol.com

Gside: Probably because the bus driver was walking (or biking, or something that doesn't require an automobile)...

Adios, that's all the time I have this morning!
Niamghold
Thursday, July 19, 2001 03:45:33 AM
IP: lac-flex170.ncia.net

Imzadi: There isn't anything better than the smell of Napalm in the morning.

And I wish I remembered that whole thing. Got the soundtrack with that on it.
Never saw the movie.

OH! Full Metal Jacket was on recently. Saw the brain go bye bye scene. I am SO frigging glad the Sarg bought it.
I was half expecting that guy to be so thick headed that he didn't realize he was dead.

"PRIVATE PYLE! WHAT is your major malfunction? This was a brand new shirt! DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH SHIRTS COST?"
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 11:04:41 PM
IP: 206.25.115.145

::Josh comes into the CR, with a REALLY broad smile and trying not to jump out of his skin in sheer joy::

Or is it sheer geek-lust?

****WARNING: COMPUTER NERD STUFF AHEAD****

Well, this morning was Steve Jobs' keynote address at Macworld New York. He announced a variety of things, including new iMacs and new G4 towers, as well as a number of things that aren't quite ready yet.

New iMacs come in three colors: indigo, snow, and graphite (none of that flower power or blue dalmatian cr@p, thank god...nothing made macs the laughing stock of the computer world faster than THOSE). They range in speed from 500-700 MHz, and all finally have enough standard RAM to run OS X. They've all got CD-RW standard, firewire, USB, ethernet, modem, video mirroring...blah blah blah, the usual list of suspects.

The new G4's, however...are AWESOME. With a redesigned faceplate, these bad boys come in 733, 867, and dual-800 configurations. Slightly bigger hard drives, GeForce2 cards standard (with the 3 as an optional upgrade), same standard stuff, like firewire, pro mouse, etc. They also lowered the price on their 15" flat panel...which actually makes it a tempting purchase.

On the downside, Apple is really dropping the ball on the software end of things. Although they demoed a bunch of stuff, like iDVD 2 (I dvd, do you dvd?! Try saying THAT ten times fast) and Mac OS X 10.1, they have yet to release anything impressive. We're still waiting on OS 9.2 and 10.1. 9.2 is no big deal, that's mainly to improve the classic environment in X, but 10.1 is pretty critical for any OS X users. Its a major speed and feature upgrade (DVD playback, FINALLY, CD burning from finder, etc)...stuff we are living without for now, but would really make our lives infinitely easier.

A number of companies demoed products for OS X, but again, few things are being released. Toast (the premiere burning software on the mac) and Virtual PC (a program that lets mac users run windoze applications) both released demos to the public today, and companies like Microsoft and Adobe demoed products...but again...nothing released. Apple announced that 29% of developers will be releasing a product for X in the next 3 months, 55% in the next 6 months. That's all well and good...but its 6 freakin months away! OS X may be an interesting and revolutionary operating system, but its sure taking its sweet time to get established.

On another plus side, Apple did help me decided conclusively what to do about my machine(s). Here's what I'm gonna order:

Dual 800MHz G4 processors capable of 12 gigaflops (12 gigaflops!? Good god, man!) with 256K of on-chip L2 cache (running at processor speed) and 2 megs of L3 cache per processor.
128 MB SDRAM (this should be upgraded later to about 640)
40 GB hard drive (will be complemented by a 30 gig HD later and an 80 gig even later)
17" Studio Display with built-in USB hub and digital video
CD-RW drive (nothing special, but at least its built-in and therefore definitely supported)
GeForce2 graphics card with 32 MB VRAM
Airport card
Standard G4 stuff: Pro mouse, pro keyboard, firewire, USB, gigabit ethernet, etc.

NERD-GASM!!!

I'm not gonna order a new iBook to go with it, instead I'm gonna keep this laptop and upgrade the ram (probably to the maximum), assuming I can get some stuff working. The new computer isn't available till August, so I'll order it then. Quite frankly, I can't wait. And with my developer discount, I'm gonna get 20% off. Sucks that I still have to pay sales tax. But it can't be avoided if I want the discount.

However, I NEED to take this laptop in for service immediately, because the w,s,x,2, and increase brightness keys randomly stop working, regardless of whether or not my left ring finger is in working order. Its starting to get pretty annoying. I know what's causing it, I just can't fix it myself. Thankfully I have applecare.

****END COMPUTER NERD STUFF****

Today we biked around Lake Donner, which was about 7.5 miles, and my brother and I were both able to conquer this hill that he's never managed to climb (I climbed it once, many years ago, but haven't since then). We spent some time shopping in Truckee (really boring for me, as there were no "toy" stores), though I did find some cool artwork I might buy later on. We also went into Tahoe City for a game of mini-golf. My brother, master athlete that he is, lost to me. But my dad won and my mom got second. It was a lot of fun, and I got a few hole-in-one's. After that we went to a restaurant called Jake's. I had this really tasty sesame salmon thing. I also got a chance to check out a really nifty Oakley watch at a nearby sunglasses store. Its about $180...my parents said they'd get it for my birthday if I wanted it, but quite frankly I want cash. I think its more important to have AppleCare on my new tower. Anyway, that was pretty much my day.

This South Park wasn't as good as the last one. But still pretty funny. I'm not sure if its funny or lame that an almost 20-year old male still finds fart jokes funny.

Daniel Johnson: Yes, I know you have a Titanium, but I'm about to have 1.6 gigahertz of altivec-lovin power...::drools uncontrollably::

DPH: <<Will someone please fix that problem?>>: Sure, as soon as someone gives me the access codes to gargoyles-fans.org

Aaron: <<5% of the student population of Berkley are pre-operative transsexuals>>: My father discovered this interesting fact: San Francisco is the only city in the world that includes sex-change operations in city health benefits. <<No wonder Josh complains so much>>: You have no idea how bad it really is. <<Remind me to post it sometime>>: Post it! <>: You're one of those hippy english people, aren't you!? <<Aren�t we all?>>: I hope so. <<it�s practically become canon throughout the fandom anyway>>: As it should. <>: Like derivatives and integrals, right? <<Another one for the �Sentences I will never utter� list>>: I'll never play tennis either. <<And yet another one for that list>>: See now THAT surprises me, as you're almost as sickly skinny as I am. <<drinking that Mike�s Hard Lemonade was a bad idea>>: It was Doc Otis. And I hadn't had any before I went shredding. <<But you�d need two pairs of sunglasses>>: I own two pairs of Oakleys already. I guess I'd have to buy matching pairs though. <<A lot of people don't feel comfortable reading porn in public>>: HAH! You should see the things I read at work!

Patrick Toman: ...

Ya know, folks, it is times like these when I'm really thankful for the fact that this isn't a live chat. I get to edit what I say, many times, before actually posting.

Xanathar: <<with the help of my new cable modem>>: Lucky bastard. <<125 dollars Aust>>: So that's what, $2.38 US? Anyway, sounds like a steal. I'll have to consider one for my new tower as well.

Lain: <<im super busy>>: Excuses, excuses. <<life-size jesus to construct out of dead computer parts>>: With or without the cross he was nailed to? <<my apartment is full of computer parts>>: I am so jealous. <<have you ever smelled motherboard?>>: Yes. <<it smells REALLY funky>>: Or magic blue smoke, if it has to be dead enough for your project. <>: Happy birthday! <<he took the modem>>: Why the hell did he do that? <<dialog?? DIALOG?!>>: At least we don't spell "color" with a "u". What the hell is wrong with you Canadians!? <<you americans and your spelling TOTALLY ruined a movie>>: We've ruined more with less. We're proud to be americas.

DPH: <<The moron has been coming home around lunch time and waking me up>>: Kill him. I think it qualifies as justifiable homicide. <<shouldn't my dad let me take responsibility for myself>>: Shouldn't you have talked to him about this by now? <<a guy at work who has MS certification, but can't get a job in Arkansas>>: Eh, MS certifications are a dime a dozen. They, quite honestly, aren't worth the paper they're printed on. <<paradox of sorts>>: Yeah, it sucks. Move to California.

Rodlox: <<are there any other dactyl-winged gargs>>: Any gargs with that style: Demona, Angela come to mind immediately, but I'm sure there are others. <<the downside of a high metabolism is that they don't hold still>>: Try the "freeze frame" feature on your VCR ;-) <<anybody know how the Gargoyles {brooklyn, lex, etc} would fare>>: Well, seeing as the gargs can fight in midair, I'd give them the better odds. Pterodactyls don't to much but fly in the air. Hey Rodlox, what does your handle mean?

Jan: <<The due date is now moved up to January 18th>>: I'm not sure if that's good or not. <<we'll be able tell if the baby is a boy or not!>>: Shouldn't that say "boy or girl"? "boy or not" sounds like you really don't want a girl. <>: Me neither. They sh!t on my car a lot. <<plotting to beat me over the head>>: No, I think they're plotting to poop on you.

Coyote: Ya know, it doesn't look to good for a con if the staff can't maintain a decent site ;-)

Courtney: Welcome. Please leave your sanity with the CR admin(s), you won't be needing it here.

Stephen: <<and shared and ice cream together>>: I wasn't aware that "ice cream" was a verb ;-) <<she should be online on ICQ tonight>>: Ooh tell us her handle so we can harass her! <>: If you put a little hat on it it'll last a lot longer.

Niamhgold: <>: Must be a defective computer. Windows, right? ;-) <<Which means that a lot of my artistic/navigable insight will be compromised>>: Sucks. I don't take too much input on my stuff. One of the reasons I'm an engineer is that its hard to argue with math, at least at the tangible levels I'd work with professionally. <<courtesy of work's software>>: There's few things that are better than stealing from the company you work for to pursue your personal projects. My dad's company buys my computers 8-) <<getting a jumpstart on next year's gargoyles art>>: Is there any chance I could get a sneak preview? <<she was over his place checking out his work>>: A better euphamism than "posting", I might say! <<he also showed her a bunch of old paintings his uncle had left him in his will.>>: Hmmm... "Hey ::girls name::, wanna come over and check out a bunch of old paintings my uncle left me in his will?" Nah, doesn't sound as good as "want a full body massage?". <<I'd like to know who to thank>>: Me. It was all me. Except for the two paintings I didn't buy. <<Glad the injuries have healed!>>: Not all of them, as I discovered today. I've got aches and pains in places where I really shouldn't. <<you're making the top of my posting list>>: What's it gonna cost for me to stay there?! <>: The other Score ;-) <<Bow before it, bow before it!>>: I don't bow, except when I do something damn cool. Like a hole-in-one at mini-golf. <<that did sound pretty awesome>>: Oh, it was. I am the man (just in case you forgot). <<if I do, I'll just probably end up on the dark side>>: Yeah, I probably should have referred to myself as a "Sith master" instead of a "jedi master", since I am DEFINITELY on the dark side of the force. I use my powers for evil all the time. What else would I use them for? But more people in here would know a Jedi than a Sith. <<Glad you're having fun there>>: I'd be having more if I had a decent and cheap internet connection. These posts are costing me a fortune. <<bike rides and everything, the perfect vacation>>: No, the perfect vacation would have lots of cute chicks that want me and more mac stores. <<What's out there in the way of wildlife?>>: You mean aside from the bee that flew into my mouth? Well, we did see a deer tonight on our way back from Tahoe City. But mostly we've just seen squirrels. We know there are bears around because we have to put our trash in special lockers that bears can't get into...but we haven't seen any yet. <>: That sounds REALLY bad. <<unfortunately because I'm not headed westward so I can't visit ya>>: Awww, bestill my heart. <<the world is better than the land>>: If I ever get off my skinny white butt and go, I'll have to judge. Florida just isn't on my list of places to visit. <<I'm sure it'd be much more enjoyable, too>>: I think it'd be enjoyable either way...know anyone? <<Well, I have to>>: Does that mean you read all that Nerd-gasm stuff? <<Likewise for me, but with men>>: Are you saying that you, too, are a nerd? ::devious planning:: <>: I think I said something similar senior year when one of the popular girls developed a crush on me. <<Not that my social life's gone up any for it>>: Heh, heh. I know that feeling too. <<We got this really burnt guy>>: Too much time in the sun? <<he'd "like to go out sometime">>: Well, good, you can rule out the possibility of him being a vampire. <<he's not "normally conscious until 11 am.">>: Sounds like we've got something in common. That's true for me, even if I'm at work at 830AM. <<this is where I pull up the strictly business relationship clause>>: bah, you're no fun! The porn directors would be insulted. <<the fact that I doubt he'll even remember coming by tomorrow morning>>: Heh, stoned people are funny that way. <<Didn't I once say something about NH men being something like moose?>>: Yes. You might consider moving to CA...the guys out here are good looking if my female friend's opinions are to be believed (and they're spoiled LA chicks, so their standards are probably pretty damn high). <<Well, in a simple word, yes>>: Oh, well then thank you! <<The dog women or the normal women?>>: Either. <<what about the chicks, the babes>>: I thought you said I couldn't call them babes! (not that I do anyway). <<I'd say you'd have to work something out with Lucifer>>: I don't have much collateral, I've already leased my soul to him to get all the stuff I've got now. <<he'd probably use Murphy as a mediator>>: Good, I can send Murphy a kicktothenuts.com. <>: Ewwww. What do you do with two @$$holes?! (stick them on a street with radar guns and let them pull teenagers over, right?). <<Now I just have to determine when the flights will connect>>: Sometime between now and the 27th of July ;-) <<<<<Commission for a nude, what?>>: Not of me...> ............>>: Didn't think you'd have a good response for that. <>: There are many things, few of them are CR-appropriate. How about "sure, I'd gladly sacrifice my life to further your plans of world domination!" <<I'm leery of leaving that as an open-ended request>>: Oh, the joys of email... <<Not as of yet>>: Give it time. Give it time. <<Nope, too many bows. In essence, I'm a three bow kinda girl>>: This just got WAY too dirty for the CR. <<What about a massive post?>>: That works too. Oh, but I guess we decided they were the same thing, didn't we? <<Him or me?>>: I think he meant me...but I vote for you. I'm betting you'd look better in it than I would. <<Looks around for him, and Dreamie>>: They're off making out somewhere over the internet. As if that was possible, not that they'll stop them. <<during which it would be questioned but never answered>>: Naw, I'm only questioning your questioning. <<Gside and Josh>>: Gasp! You've thrown in the word "inquiry"!! That just trashed the whole thing. I refuse to continue this thread until we reinstate the original word. <<the two pieces I had>>: What about the Sisters piece?

Lynati: <<god, I love this bra>>: Too much info for me. <<I'm no longer miffed about not making your "cute" list>>: I wasn't aware you were miffed in the first place. My appologies for miffing. <<complimenting my cleavage>>: Oh, if only cleavage mattered. <<thumbs her nose at Imzy>>: ::waves hand dismissingly:: <<Moooochiieee!! come back!>>: I don't think he can hear you. <<Shock Treatment>>: Ugh, that movie was awful!

Aingeal: Welcome back. Good luck with the apartment hunting. Things to look for: low to the ground (or an elevator if its not), access to high speed internet even if you're not going to pay for it yet, on-location washing machines, a manager that isn't a d!ck.

Gside: <<No, that's your middle finger>>: Godddamnit! <<Your index finger would have taken out rfvbgt>>: Better protect it with my life then! <<Is that what they're calling it nowadays?>>: Not to my knowledge. <<Especially when he's posting to me>>: EWWWW! <<Your knowledge of your hand is really messed up>>: Nonsense. I know my hand like the back of my hand...er...cr@p. <>: Unless the geek is Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. <<How about a menage a treize?>>: Is that 30 or 13? <<Preach it, brother>>: To whom? <<That's not what you said last night>>: Yes, actually it is. That's exactly what I said in my last post. <<but I loved the way he held me!>>: Yeah, I've heard that one before. What's the difference between a prostitute and a violin player? The prostitute has rhythm. <<Examine me>>: Ewww. Do I have to? <<Is that what they're calling it nowadays?>>: Nope again. <<Try rot13 next time>>: Thanks, but *I'D* like to be able to read the post. <<It doesn't get bad until DiffEq>>: Yawn. Ask me something difficult. <<That never bothered Zaphod>>: Maybe it did BEFORE he fried off a portion of his brain and he doesn't know it! <<No, that's me>>: She meant here, specifically. Not in general. <<Still - he didn't break any traffic laws. Why not?>>: He was walking! Gotcha! <<Him, of course>>: Her, thank you. <<Why are you questioning our questioning of your questioning our inquiring about our own questions about my inquiring of Fire Storm's question on Imzadi's qesstionis about Fire Storm's question?>>: Ah, good. The right word. Why are you questioning her questioning of our questioning of her questioning of our questioning about our own questions about your questions of Fire Storm's question of my questions about Fire Storm's question?

FS: <<The moment you open that crisp anti-static bag>>: And run static through your brand new...doorstop. <<smell of a freshly cooked motherboard>>: Better or worse than the smell of napalm in the morning?

Okay folks, I'm off to dream sweet dreams about my new G4 tower.

Why do I always smell bread?
-Dreamie, at Gathering 2001

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:47:42 PM
IP: 206.170.171.84

Gside: <Mmm, heaven...>
Fresh, new motherboard right out of the box.
The moment you open that crisp anti-static bag...

Unless you are talking about the smell of a freshly cooked motherboard. Ick.
Fire Storm - [<Pending>]
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:16:03 PM
IP: 206.25.115.145

Imzadi> <<My index would have eliminated e,d,c and 3 from my post>>: No, that's your middle finger. Your index finger would have taken out rfvbgt.
<>: Is that what they're calling it nowadays?
<<"what are you talking about, Josh always types with one hand!">>: Especially when he's posting to me.
<<my left index finger wasn't working>>: Your knowledge of your hand is really messed up.
<<Pay no attention to the geek>>: I believe that usually goes without saying, unless you are referring to the classical definition.
<<If menage-a-trois doesn't cause a male circuit overload, nothing can>>: How about a menage a treize?
<<your opinion of your physical appears drops faster than a 500-lb laser guided bomb on Jupiter>>: Preach it, brother.
<>: So where's Eccentrica Gallumbits?
<<The Brazillians would disagree>>: True, but if you use a consistant localized definition of summer, it won't work.
<<its fair to say that I would NOT want to be in that outfit>>: That's not what you said last night.
<<Chicks dig it?>>: Nah, they prefer french horn. 'A girl went out on a date with a trumpet player, and when she came back her roommate asked, "Well, how was it? Did his embouchure make him a great kisser?"
"Nah," the first girl replied. "That dry, tight, tiny little pucker; it was no fun at all."
The next night she went out with a tuba player, and when she came back her roommate asked, "Well, how was his kissing?"
"Ugh!" the first girl exclaimed. "Those huge, rubbery, blubbery, slobbering slabs of meat; oh, it was just gross!"
The next night she went out with a French horn player, and when she came back her roommate asked, "Well, how was his kissing?"
"Well," the first girl replied, "his kissing was just so-so; but I loved the way he held me!"'
<<What is it I have to do?>>: Examine me.
<<all that typing while playing violin>>: Is that what they're calling it nowadays?
<<<<Does everyone wish it did?>>: Nope>>: I think you're a little confused there.
<<just replaced the letters I "couldn't" type with>>: You really want to mess us up? Try rot13 next time.

Aaron> <<Remind me to post it sometime>>: Post that brochure.
<<Says you>>: Yes, says me. It doesn't get bad until DiffEq.
<<But you�d need two pairs of sunglasses>>: That never bothered Zaphod.

Lain> <<have you ever smelled motherboard?>>: Mmm, heaven...

Niamhgold> <<continuing my huge, probably-never-gonna-get-finished comic series>>: Going to take out a Keenspace account?
<>: No, that's me.
<<he'd "like to go out sometime", but he's not "normally conscious until 11 am.">>: Wait a minute, I'm not going to be in New Hampshire until later in the summer.
<>: Well, maybe you can evolve it into comics (ref: S. McCloud).
<<You're on!>>: While we're waiting, we can work on the current Life at Bayside riddle: A bus driver was heading down a street in Colorado. He went right past a stop sign without stopping, he turned left where there was a "no left turn" sign, and he went the wrong way on a one-way street. Then he went on the left side of the road past a cop car. Still - he didn't break any traffic laws. Why not?
<<Him or me?>>: Him, of course.
<<Hola Firestorm>>: Watch out, that be Rodlox.
<<Why are you two inquiring as to why I'm inquiring about why you two are inquiring about both your inquiries concerning Gside's inquiring as to Fire Storm's inquiring about Imzadi's inquiries about Fire Storm's original inquiry?>>: Why are you questioning our questioning of your questioning our inquiring about our own questions about my inquiring of Fire Storm's question on Imzadi's qesstionis about Fire Storm's question?

Lynati> <<You wouldn't think that Belly dancing and Moxy Fruvous would go together, would you?>>: Naybe for No, No Raja.
<<god, I love this bra>>: That is one of those statements where I start wondering where the heck that come from. Then I realize it would most likely be better for my sanity if I don't find out.
<<I'm telling you I was the King of Spain...>>: The king, a former conehead.

Since a Swede recently reminded me of my Carrolian obsession, and I've been regretting not having posted any (pure) Petty, the new mp3 is Don't Come Around Here No More by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 09:39:32 PM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Well..... I've been out of the loop for several months now.... ::sigh::

anyway... I'm home for another month or so... then I'm back to school.... I'm also moving out... my rents are moving to KY.. nad I dont want to go with them... so I'm going to go apt hunting... anyone want to give me advice on what to look for in a cheap affordable apt... or where to find them?

well.. i'm working 2 jobs, and need sleep... nite all!

::curls up with her Dragon and sleeps::
Aingeal - [krailsaingeal@lycos.com]
Err.... dunno....
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 09:13:05 PM
IP: 3di153.rica.net

*Poings in*
hee hee hee...
You wouldn't think that Belly dancing and Moxy Fruvous would go together, would you?
:)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaron!!! : :D ...got your last email. between that, the blueberries, the backlava, the music, and the people I am actually with, I am now in a goooood mood. Only Actually meeting up with Mara before I leave could make me feel any better.
god, I love this bra.
Hey, hey, Imzadi! I'm no longer miffed about not making your "cute" list. Ethan says: "Lynati + fishnets = *drool". and Sarah agrees. SO, your not complimenting my face is more than made up for by a pair of attractive blonds complimenting my cleavage. *wonders how well the pics from last fridays RHPS will turn out, even though the fishnet bodysuit got compliments from random peoples*
*rereads last paragraph and thumbs her nose at Imzy*

*hugs lain* yaaay! lain is back! now we need Moochie back. Moooochiieee!! come back! I need your opinion on this new pic of mine! *evil chuckle*
ahhh....hmm? oh. My, that is distracting. *watches*
oh yes. Ethan seems to be very ticklish. heh heh heh...
*time elapses*
Gotta go now. Ethan is currently curled up in a fetal position, and Sarah and I are going to curl up next to him and watch "Shock Treatment".
later for me.
*slips out through the fabric gate, and is gone*

Lynati "I'm telling you I was the King of Spain..." Kshudra
NY,NY (Sarah's place)
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 08:51:08 PM
IP: 1cust182.tnt7.nyc3.da.uu.net

Niamhgold> By any chance, did you do a painting a while entitled "Hunter's Moon" a while back in acrylic paints? Cause my brother bought it at Gathering 99.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 08:32:04 PM
IP: dialin-570-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

** Niamhgold enters quickly **

Greg: Well, the two pieces I had was the gargoyles World Map, and then this picture of a fic garg called Erebia Nyx (I think they named it the "starry-winged gargoyle" because I forgot to fill out that section on the form ;))

Thanks and Adios!
Niamhgold
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 08:19:14 PM
IP: lac-flex116.ncia.net

Niamhgold> Which art there was yours? Sorry, but I'm having a little trouble right now placing names to some of the art.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 06:02:33 PM
IP: dialin-570-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hey! Seems like things are working again (BTW, at least some people could post when the site was down; I couldn't even get in here ;)). Work is going to be a booger until I go off for vacation, simply because I finished all three of our press kit CDs and now they're in editing stage. Which means that a lot of my artistic/navigable insight will be compromised. Alas, though, this is the world. At least I'm still doing art at nights; some graphic stuff, courtesy of work's software, getting a jumpstart on next year's gargoyles art, and continuing my huge, probably-never-gonna-get-finished comic series.

I _did_ find out something rather cool, however; apparently, Lisa (my boss) does a lot of print work for this guy...and one day, when she was over his place checking out his work (it's too big to bring into the office to be snapped), he also showed her a bunch of old paintings his uncle had left him in his will. His grand uncle, apparently, is Andrew Wyeth (son of NC Wyeth)...and to anyone remotely interested in the art world, you know that NC Wyeth and Andrew Wyeth are considered the founding fathers of illustration. Zoinks, Thelma! My ideal artist's works are stuffed away in somebody's attic...I would be honored just to get within a foot of them! :)

Speaking of art: Well, I got my stuff back from this year's Gathering, timely and orderly and all (thanks to all the art staffers for the Warpys and the organized check invoices ;)), but I do have a question...is there any possible way of finding out who bought one's artwork? I don't want to cause any trouble for anyone, but I'd like to know who to thank (I always write thank-you notes). If anyone here happens to know (or did), please inform me!
Thanks!

Josh: Glad the injuries have healed! And, again, you're making the top of my posting list ;) <The Score ruled!> I thought that you hadn't gotten a chance with the chicks yet ;) <Hitchhiker's guide> A, the bible. Bow before it, bow before it! <That'll teach the twerp to mess with the master> You go! Sheesh, that did sound pretty awesome. I've always wished I could do something like that, like know to catch a ball with my back turned or something. Guess I just don't have the force. And, if I do, I'll just probably end up on the dark side ;) Glad you're having fun there...bike rides and everything, the perfect vacation ;) What's out there in the way of wildlife? <Because if its LAND, you better visit or butts will be kicked> Well, I guess my butt is safe because, unfortunately (well, it's a double edged sword--fortunately because I'm going to Disney no matter what, unfortunately because I'm not headed westward so I can't visit ya) we're going to Disneyworld. IMNSHO, the world is better than the land ;) <Two days late. I never saw it coming!> Ah! Attack of the sentient and devious calender! <Actually, I'd like that to happen even if I wasn't in pain!> And I'm sure it'd be much more enjoyable, too >;) <Pay no attention to the geek> Well, I have to, since I made you listen to all my garble about Andrew/NC Wyeth. <I'm his evil twin. Or is that redundant?> Or maybe a double negative, or something like that. <Grow up a nerd...> Likewise for me, but with men. Although, nowadays, I think hell's freezing over because they're actually speaking to me. Not that my social life's gone up any for it, though. We got this really burnt guy who leads a band today--he wants a _big_ press batch done up (wanted me to design the CD covers after he saw my sketchbook). Apparently, he'd "like to go out sometime", but he's not "normally conscious until 11 am." Okaaayyyy...this is where I pull up the strictly business relationship clause. Well, that, and the fact that I doubt he'll even remember coming by tomorrow morning ;P Didn't I once say something about NH men being something like moose? <I'm sorry, is that a compliment? I couldn't tell.> Well, in a simple word, yes. <But it probably won't be too fun for any women> The dog women or the normal women? And what about the chicks, the babes, etc, etc, etc...? <<<"Fred is fed...">>: Huh? > Fred is a fish. He lives in our office. End of story. Well, not exactly the end of the story, because I haven't finished illustrating the narrative yet. It's a present storybook for Lisa's three year-old (I can't seem to get out of this storybook gutter...;)) <What if I want a harem of beautiful women?> I'd say you'd have to work something out with Lucifer. And he'd probably use Murphy as a mediator, so I'd stay clear of _those_ negotiations. <@$$hole with an @$$hole, is it anything like that?> Nope. They gave him a surgery, and, well...I don't think we need to picture the rest! <A date and a time and I'm there.> Now I just have to determine when the flights will connect ;) <<<Commission for a nude, what?>>: Not of me...> ............ <Well, if not for the sarcasm, it would have been, few make me feel special ;-)> Well, no sarcasm this time...but now I don't know what to say to make you feel special! (and I'm leery of leaving that as an open-ended request... ;)) <JOY! Do you have any regrets about that?> Ah, here's the opportunity! Not as of yet ;) <Okay, I'm bored waiting now> And maybe that's the point... ;) <How about bow chicka bow bow bow?> Nope, too many bows. In essence, I'm a three bow kinda girl. <Use something with a boom. I know nothing draws me like a big bang...uh, nevermind.> What about a massive post? ...uh, nevermind on that one, too ;)

Gside: <<I'm sorry to say>>: No you aren't. Not in the least> :) You're right. ** Waits patiently ** You're on! ;) <All right: Chicka bow bow> Thanks a million! <Right. You'd want to be in the French maid outfit.> Him or me? ;)

Winterwolf: Where art thou? ** Looks around for him, and Dreamie ** Helloooooooooo?

Stephen: You're welcome! Glad that the last night went well (as I can see from the picture); sorry that you have to be apart for this short while :)

Hola Firestorm! <anybody know how the Gargoyles {brooklyn, lex, etc} would fare alongside/against the 'dactyls in the movie?> Hmmm...interesting question. We could either pose this to Gside and Imzy, during which it would be questioned but never answered, or I could go see the movie this weekend and give you my answer next week ;) I'd have to guess that the _movie's_ dactyls would fail, but that real-life dactyls from that era would destroy the gargs...Can't wait to watch all this stuff with the raptors that you're hinting at!

Christine: Thanks for the link! Am heading there now :)

Gside and Josh: Why are you two inquiring as to why I'm inquiring about why you two are inquiring about both your inquiries concerning Gside's inquiring as to Fire Storm's inquiring about Imzadi's inquiries about Fire Storm's original inquiry?

"I am an enigma" - William T. Wiley (and frankly a name I never want to hear again ;)

Niamhgold
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 04:49:41 PM
IP: lac-flex116.ncia.net

<<<< [,,,hoping this pic best show's what happened last night.]

Greetings all... last night was my Grandmother's 77th birthday, so we celebrated with family and friends over a steak finger dinner (Nummers!). Heather was there, since it was one of the last chances she and I could be together before she left for Tennessee. We had a good time, and later Heather and I went to a local ice cream stand (one that's been in the South Tampa area since my parents were dating) and shared and ice cream together. ^_^

Later, we shared some last moments together (hugs and snuggles seem so much more meaningful when it's with someone that you're not going to see for a while), before she had to head home for the night. <sighs> Thing of it is, she should be online on ICQ tonight, so we get to say "I'll miss you, etc." all over again. ^_^

Anyway, to the Replies, Boy Wonder!

# # #

AARON - Re: Final Fantasy:TSW: Well, I guess you're entitled to your own opinions. Truth be told, I liked both the story and the visuals in the film. True some bits were never explained or expounded on, but it's still a good film. Might only get Oscar nods for the CGI work, filmography and such... but it was one heck of a movie for me.

Re: Atlantis: It's comments like this that make me wonder "What is it going to take to satisfy people like you, when it comes to Disney's Animation?"

I mean, people complained that they were tired of the cutesy musicals with animal sidekicks... okay, that stopped. Then, complaints sang out over how the movies seemed too similar to certain Japanese anime... I've already said my piece on that.

I mean, come on! I can understand what people want from anime (and for the most part, it delivers), but what do you want from Disney? The truth of the matter is that until someone gets ahold of their Animation Division - someone with true imagination, drive and an open mind to explore - things may not and quite probably will not change to where people that critisise will be 100% satisfied. And, as much as I try to be an idealist, I know that the chances of someone with that sort of criteria coming along within Disney has as much chance as a spheriod of ice in Hades of surviving.

Of course, I could just say, "For all you complainers, if you think you can do better..." ^_^

CHRISTINE - Going to DragonCon in Atlanta??? KEEN GEAR! I'll have to see if I can make it!

KYRYN, NIAMGOLD, ETC. - Thanks for the comments on my night with Heather! We had a great time, and it was a very romantic evening!

Well, that's all from me for now... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 03:05:59 PM
IP: 65342hfc61.tampabay.rr.com

Hey I'm new here. I just wanted to say hi. bye
Courntey
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 02:42:17 PM
IP: 66.73.9.22

Grrr ... sorry for the double post here ...

For the time being, the link to the main GMC2004 home page on the new board is malfunctioning, as is apparently the rest of Geosh*tties. I can't access any of my pages right now because of some sort of stupid coding error in their rerouting system. So for right now, the board is all we have up. :(
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 02:18:36 PM
IP: 64.243.214.134

Quick announcement ... the message board for GMC2004 is now on-line. Clicky my name link. :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 01:01:26 PM
IP: 64.243.214.134

catalog, catalogue, dialog, dialogue are all acceptable and correct ways of spelling the words. If I'm not mistaken, the film was made in AMERICA and therefore it would have AMERICAN spelling, no?

Anna went to her first "official" doctor's appointment today. The due date is now moved up to January 18th instead of the later date of February 5th. She was able to hear the baby's heartbeat =) She will have a sonagram next month and maybe we'll be able tell if the baby is a boy or not! hehe

I don't like small birds. They hop around so
merrily outside my window, looking so innocent.
but I know that secretly, they're watching my every
move and plotting to beat me over the head with a
large steel pipe and take my shoe-laces.

Jan
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:50:00 PM
IP: modem19-149.mo-net.com

<-- seriously, folks, are there any other dactyl-winged gargs besides Brooklyn?

**SPOILERS FOR _JURASSIC PARK III_...
aka, "How cell phones can kill" :)
{just like worms kill trout}.

beware, my friends; the previews for the movie say one thing about the Raptors, but the film never hints at it.

the images of the pterosaurs {ceradactyls, if they're from the first JP book} are great - though the downside of a high metabolism is that they don't hold still for a portrait or sketch.

anybody know how the Gargoyles {brooklyn, lex, etc} would fare alongside/against the 'dactyls in the movie?

one of my favorite lines: "I used to like dinosaurs. That was before they tried to eat me."
**end of spoilers for now.

Rodlox - [@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:46:33 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Alright, tgs.gargoyles-fans.org is working again. It hasn't been done in a while thankfully.

1+1=-3

The moron has been coming home around lunch time and waking me up. I now I have said this before, but shouldn't my dad let me take responsibility for myself whenever possible?

Somehow, I received a brochure for the college where I graduated showing there fall list of classes. There are 2 classes, but I could only take 1. My problem is could I keep my opinions about the value of a degree from this college (worthless in Arkansas) to myself. Did I also mention I know a guy at work who has MS certification, but can't get a job in Arkansas.

**HIGH TECH JOBS RANT**
In a state with few high tech jobs, it's difficult to attract more. Why? If some new company comes in with high tech jobs, guess what: they will bring their own people in and hire virtually no person locally. Does that do any good for my state? No. The only real way to create high tech jobs in a low tech state is for someone to start their own business and hire people locally. So essentially, my state is trapped in a paradox of sorts: no high tech jobs because there are no people to fill those jobs and no people to fill high tech jobs because there are no high tech jobs.
**END HIGH TECH RANT**

There, I almost feel better.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:37:47 AM
IP: max1-10.cwy.cei.net

hey you lot guess what?? IM STILL ALIVE!!!!!!!!!
.. okay.. barely.. but still..

sorry for the lack of postage but im super busy. i have 10 paintings to do, two essays to write, and a life-size jesus to construct out of dead computer parts within the next uh... 8 days..
oh.. and go to class and work and all that jazz..

my apartment is full of computer parts.. and is looking waaaaaaaaay too much like "serial experiments: lain"'s bedroom that it isnt funny.. and the whole place smells like motherboard.. have you ever smelled motherboard? it smells REALLY funky..

on the plus side, i had my birthday on the weekend and my father gave me my computer back. huzzah. unfortunately he took the modem out so i cant have internet access at home. we went to see final fantasy, AND WAS ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED!!!!!!!! at the very end, during the credits, there was a section that said "additional dialog by:".. and i choked. "dad.. they spelled "dialogue" wrong" says i, to which dad replies, "oh, thats how americans spell it." dialog?? DIALOG?!?!? and then to my INCREASED horror, i saw an infomercial later that night that was advertising a "catalog" *twitch twitch* *twitch twitch convulse* im telling you, you americans and your spelling TOTALLY ruined a movie which i happened to have liked.. (however it DIDNT wreck the fact that im NEVER going to get an ultramatic adjustable bed no matter HOW long i live.. : P ) sorry.. im just being a wierdo canadian with wierdo spelling things..
the only thing i didnt like about the FF graphics was that they still havent got that talking thing down with the computer animation. their lips move funny, and sometimes akis arms moved a little too much like a doll but otherwise the animation was pretty darned good. id agree that the story was a little flat.. but not as flat as atlantis.. and not NEARLY as cheese-filled.. that beasties plot was so leaky that i shall leave it to its sinking..

and no, warpmind, i dont have time to look up winzip or scanner software today. maybe later..gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i have to go to MORE class tonight... *grumble* spent 50$ buying *TWO* canvas stretchers and i metre of canvas the other day. i looked the store owner in the eye and said, "good thing im not a starving art student, eh?"

jackal>> you might not remember me.. but *I* remember *you*............ ; )

SJ>> ooooooooooooo there were buffy spoilers??????????!??! HUH HUH HUH?!!??!?! dangit! not enough time to read them!!!

*sends huggles to GB and runs away to get covered in MORE paint*
lain "play track 44" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:15:04 AM
IP: 198.96.83.42

Hi all!!

Just stopping by to let you all know that I am still around,I'm having a really interesting week,on the bad side I've got the flu but on the good side I'm posting this message with the help of my new cable modem *really big grin*,and I bought a brand new Pioneer DVD rom drive for my PC(125 dollars Aust,can you say "bargin",I knew that you could. ;) )

I guess I better get going,C'ya's!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 04:39:33 AM
IP: cpe-203-45-26-71.vic.bigpond.net.au

Small request for help...

I'm looking for a good screen grab of human Demona in police uniform from "High Noon", from the scenes before she takes off her hat and her hair goes all wild again. If anyone knows where one might be found, I'd appreciate a link or a copy of the pic mailed to me. Thanks!

P.S. - I've already visited Agamemnon's archive and couldn't find one fitting the above criteria that showed her from the front.

P.P.S. - No, this is not for next year's Gathering Masquerade costume (I'm not gonna reveal my evil plans THAT easily). It's fanfic research. >:)
Patrick Toman - [puck@art-chicks.com]
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 03:37:48 AM
IP: ac8a465b.ipt.aol.com

tgs.gargoyles-fans.org appears to be down.
In fact, everything on gargoyles-fans.org seems to be down. My guess is that they will see that when they get into work (whoever it is now that fixes that server)

T=0500
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Wednesday, July 18, 2001 01:36:08 AM
IP: 206.25.115.145

(Picks up the knocked-over trash can, and then punts it out the window)

According to a, um... brochure I got sent out of the blue, 5% of the student population of Berkley are pre-operative transsexuals. No wonder Josh complains so much. (It did have some other funny stuff tho'. Remind me to post it sometime)

Gside> <<Calm down, it's not that bad.>> Says you. I could never even pass Pre-Cal.

Josh> <<I'm prepared to sacrifice my brother to save my pathetic hide. ;_)>> Aren�t we all? <<Unless Christine's "Temptation" episode was actually a cut scene from Greg Weisman's bible.>> Well, it�s practically become canon throughout the fandom anyway... <<Many people I try to explain a derivative or integral to explode into many pieces.>> I won�t explode, my eyes just glaze over and I think about happy things until you finish. <<My mom says hi>> Hi, Josh�s mom. <<Alex says hi too.>> Hi Alex. <<because the courts at the club won't let you on without them.>> Another one for the �Sentences I will never utter� list. <<No padding. I actually can't sit for too long without getting serious pains.>> And yet another one for that list... <<limp_ into the CR, looking brui_ed, beaten, and abu_ed, holding variou_ part_ of hi_ body>> Well, obviously drinking that Mike�s Hard Lemonade was a bad idea. I mean, haven�t you seen their commercials? <<And think ho_ many _omen I could check out at once!>> But you�d need two pairs of sunglasses. (Aaron looks in his pocket and realizes that he *has* two pairs of sunglasses) Nevermind.

Siofra> <<Snatch... Best movie I've seen all year.>> Really? I didn�t think it was as good as Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels.

Spacebabie> <<Cancel the voting academy and get some new voters, perferably some that actually watches TV>> You have the Emmys, I have the Oscars...

Baldy> <<I'm home>> And there was much rejoicing. Congratulations. You survived something I don�t think I would have.

Christine> <<Is there really such a big difference between staff sitting around reading / doing schoolwork / writing and staff sitting around surfing the net?>> A lot of people don't feel comfortable reading porn in public. Weirdos.

It�s been a cinematic kind of week for me. I've seen five movies in six days. (Maybe the Eye of Greg is affecting me already) I probably won�t do a review for Shrek or Tomb Raider, because they�ve been out so long, and I won't review Kiss of the Dragon, 'cause it just wasn't worth the effort, but the other two are fair game.

******** Warning Spoilers for FF & Atlantis *********************

Saturday, I went to see Final Fantasy, or as I would dub it later, Not-Quite-There-Fantasy.

I hate to say it, but it looks like I�m going to side with the critics and join the idiot mainstream herd for once. Let�s just say that as a story, it�s got really good graphics. I thought it sucked.

I wanted to like this movie, I really did. I mean, it�s the big experiment, the one that could make or break mature audience animation in America. (Heh. I know, I thought that about Titan A.E. too) Not to mention the sheer amount of time and huge gobs of money Squaresoft has invested in this curiosity.

The characters are very American, but they�re trapped inside a story that�s very Japanese. A story which you have to accept on faith, because it wanders from point to point without much in the way of logic to hold it together. Interesting points are raised, but never explored. Like the thirty-five years of history since the Phantoms crashed on Earth, or exactly what the deal was between Aki and Grey.

Basically, the world has been overrun by bio-electric beings called Phantoms who have reduced humanity to huddling in huge �Barrier-Cities�, unable to venture forth.

Dr Aki Ross (whose costume bears a suspicious resemblance to Rei Ayanami�s plugsuit) dreams nightly of a war on an alien planet, all the denizens of which seem to have really bad aim.

Ross, under the guidance of her mentor Dr. Sid, is gathering �Spirits�, specific lifeforms whose bio-wave patterns will (insert *long* string of bizarre pseudo-spiritual technobabble here) neutralize the Phantoms.

Enter the antagonist, voiced by James Woods. (He does look pretty cool, but I�m a sucker for a black trenchcoat, even if it is CGI) He wants to deal with the Phantoms in a manner he (and the audience) can understand: Blow them to Hell with a giant orbiting space cannon. (Incidentally, anyone who didn�t pick up on the Zeus Cannon being a metaphor for the A-bomb, you *fail* Anime subtext 101. You are the weakest link. Good-bye)

Keith David shows up to say a few lines around here.

Eventually, after some decidedly weak maneuvering on James Woods� part to entrap Dr. Ross, we have a don�t-you-wish-this-was-as-cool-as-Aliens mission that takes up about twenty minutes, and ends with Ross and company in jail. Growing impatient, (like the audience?) Woods drops a section of the barrier around the city to let in a few Phantoms. Only he miscalculates and ends up letting them destroy the whole place.

The romantic leads escape, predictably shedding their supporting cast, (i.e. the only likeable characters, Steve Buscemi and Peri Gilpin, whose character reminded me a little too much of the butch Hispanic chick from Aliens) to do so.

Ross tries to tell Woods that the Phantoms, the creatures whose touch can suck the soul out of your body and leave you a lifeless sack of meat, aren�t really evil. They�re just the race memory of another planet, and they�re hurt and confused. Woods does what any sane person would do: He tells her she�s full of s#!t, cuts the communication, and (Dr Evil voice) fires the laser.

Unfortunately, the space cannon must not have been up to spec, because it overheats before it can kill Ross or Grey. James Woods overloads the thing trying to get one more shot in, and blows the whole thing up.

Meanwhile, the �Spirits� are combined, and the Phantoms destroyed by sacrificing Alec Baldwin. (See, not a totally bad movie) At least they had the sense to let him stay dead.

Again, a total non-resolution ending, with consequences implied but never stated. Reminded me of watching Blue Sub 6. I haven't played an FF game since the original. Do they always end this weakly?

I'm not saying don't go see it. The graphics are pretty good, and let's face it, any special effects movie should be seen on the big screen. But imagine how much cooler it could have been for all this time and money to have been invested in turning the G2K radio play into a feature film. That, friends and neighbors, would have kicked FF:TSW up one side and down the other.

Aaron Bob says two stars, see it at a matinee, and ask for your student discount. Or just theatre hop.

BTW, how come Aki made the cover of Maxim? She's not that hot. Especially compared with the heroine of this summer's *good* CGI fest, Princess Fiona.

Atlantis....

Atlantis didn't impress me either. It seemed like a pretty standard Disney story, only with the song numbers yanked. Which is kind of like a Peanuts special without the Little Debbie commercials: The whole thing's pretty dang short.

I refuse to believe that in all that time, nobody figured out that if I stick my crystal in here, put my hand on this hand-sized pad, and turn the crystal, we can make the metal fish *cough*Speeder bikes*cough* go.

Definite passing of the Matrix feel when the King talks to Milo.

Total flip-flop not once, but twice, on the part of the supporting cast. First they're good, then bad, then good again. (I admit, the part where they blow down the door to the throne room and Jim Varney, God rest his soul, yells "Room service!", does have a special place in my heart. But only 'cause I loved Ernest as a kid)

Cree Summer turns into a glowing wireframe model why? She has all the power of the Heart of Atlantis, but does she use it to nuke James Garner? No. She doesn't do anything.

Was there supposed to be a love triangle between Milo, Kida, and the mechanic girl? Like most things, it didn't really get any development.

Not bad, as a first attempt, if I didn't know about something called Nadia, Legend of Blue Water. I walked out thinking "And they're going to make a series out of this how?" Which, as you all know by now, they aren't.

Aaron Bob says 2.5 stars. Go see it and then theater hop over to Shrek like I did.

*****End spoilers. You can look now************

Later.

"If I wanted to build character, I'd play Dungeons & Dragons."

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 11:27:07 PM
IP: dialup-64.154.228.129.dial1.sanantonio1.level3.net

Hey, I can't connect to tgs.gargoyles-fans.org right now. Will someone please fix that problem?
DPH - [dph_of_Rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 10:46:26 PM
IP: max1-13.cwy.cei.net

Hello folks!

First, my bad: my left ring finger was injured, not my index. My index would have eliminated e,d,c and 3 from my post.

Good news, as you may have already guessed: my finger is working again! Thank god, cuz I use that finger for a lot more than just w,s,x, and 2. There's also an Apple key that I need it for. I use it for other stuff too, like, uh...

Anyway, the stiffness in my wrists and other places is not permanent, thankfully. Cuz I do use my wrist for stuff besides typing, like...uh...swinging baseball bats...

Suffice it to say that having stiff wrists and one defective finger would not have been good for future relationships.

I considered typing all of my last post with just one hand, but decided it would be much more fun (for me, not you) if I just left out the letters. If you can't figure out what I was talking about last night, I'll be happy to repost with the proper letters. But in the meantime, I like watching the responses.

Woke up today at the crack of dawn (aka 930AM). We went river rafting at around noon, a long lazy ride down the relatively calm Truckee. The only remotely interesting part of the trip was the very last part, which might be rated as high as a 2 on a rough day (rapids are rated as high as 5). At the end of the trip, there's a little restaurant where they collect the rafts. We had lunch there. Then we went home for a few hours and saw The Score at about 645. It RULED! The only thing that annoyed me about it was Brando. I just don't like him. Never did. After that it was dinner at a local pizzeria. It was here that I displayed my awesome talents as a true jedi master:

Ya know that scene in Karate Kid where Myagi catches the fly with his chopsticks? Well, I did something very similar today. My brother attempted to blow a straw wrapper at me (ya know, where you take off the tip of the wrapper and then blow what's left at the person across the table), and I caught the wrapper between my fingers not 2 inches from my face. It was, beyond doubt, the slickest maneuver I've ever seen at a dinner table. It was damn cool. That'll teach the twerp to mess with the master.

So now I'm at home with the family writing this post and watching something about mummies.

My mom's been reading Hitchhiker's Guide, she thinks its the funniest book she's ever read.

Meanwhile, I've been reading the new Star Wars book, Rogue Planet. It takes place shortly after Phantom Menace. Its not bad, told from the two perspectives of Anakin/Obi-Wan and Raith Sienar (CEO of Sienar Fleet Systems, the company that later develops the TIE fighter). Next on my list is either "So Long and Thanks for all the Fish" by Douglas Adams or the next Star Wars book. I've read all the star wars books, so I think that will take priority, especially if my mother isn't done with Hitchhikers (the "trilogy" is bound into one volume so I can't read it if she's not done with her story).

Tomorrow we're gonna do a 7-8 mile bike ride around Lake Donner, then hang out for a little while and see Jurassic Park III in Tahoe.

Also tomorrow is the beginning of Macworld Expo New York (aka MWNY), where Steve Jobs will announce the new Macs. I've decided not to order my iBook just yet, but I may order the tower depending on when and where the shipping works out. I'm hoping to have a sweet dual-800 g4 with a 17" LCD...and maybe I'll just keep this laptop for a road machine. Unless anyone wants to buy it...On second thought, I won't be able to order the new tower anyway, not if I want my developer discount. Jeez, so much planning and thinking and deciding, all so I can save a thousand bucks off a computer or two.

FS: <<My head hurts from trying to read the last post>>: Heh, heh. I think that was the idea. In fact, reading over it, so does mine.

Kyryn: <>: Now is the opportunity for other CR members to make a joke at my expense about "what are you talking about, Josh always types with one hand!" In any case, I'm quite capable of typing with one hand, I just elected not to. I thought it'd be funnier to do this. <<Thanks for the running commentary on your vacation>>: I'm not sure if that's sarcastic or not, but you're welcome. Since I can't spend much time online, this CR is as close as I get to chat. The only other conversation I have is with my ::shudder:: family. Its nice having something to actually talk about in the CR instead of just posting responses to various people.

DPH: <>: It's called summer, dude. <<Posts are getting shorter and less frequent>>: Sorry, some of us have lives and/or limited internet connections. <<we really should do something about that>>: Buy me a dedicated T3? <<what's wrong with your keyboard?>>: If you'd read my post, you'd see that my left index finger wasn't working. My keyboard is fine...today.

Green Baron: <>: Kaioto lurks occasionally.

Coyote: <<no new Demona story. DAMMIT!>>: Certainly worth the frustration, seeing as we've been without a new Demona story for about 5 years now.

Niamhgold: <<passes to Disney>>: Would that be DisneyWORLD or DisneyLAND? Yes, that information is critical. Because if its LAND, you better visit or butts will be kicked. <>: I don't think there's such a thing as "vacation karma". Only "vacation envy". <<Ouchie mama, that's gotta suck>>: Indeed. <<as if Friday the 13th is hitting you with a suprise attack>>: Two days late. I never saw it coming! <<I'll blow him away for ya>>: Um...oh. Away. My bad. <<that doesn't necessarily prove that you are immortal>>: No, the fact that I'm still alive does. <<all this sh_t went down and you're still able to post>>: It'll take a lot more than a defective left index finger to stop me from posting. I'd use my pinky toe if I had to, or dictate to my brother. <<I'll just attribute that to your pain>>: Actually, I'd like that to happen even if I wasn't in pain! <<with all the slurring that I'm sure the sting caused>>: Actually, I had no problems talking. The swelling lasted literally 10 minutes and was a tiny bump in my tongue. No biggy. <<if you haven't already tried it at this point, I'd be surprised>>: Surprise! I didn't. I didn't see anyone I wanted to try it on, since we pretty much came home right afterwards. I'd had quite enough abuse for the day and didn't feel the need to add rejection to my list. <<glad to see that you have some eye candy>>: Well, if nothing else, I could buy a couple Mac magazines and use those for eye candy. Also, Macworld Expo starts tomorrow, and new macs will be released...now THAT is eye candy. Pay no attention to the geek. <<Dare you say it, with Murphy still on the prowl?>>: I dare! And I can say that I was fine the whole rafting trip. Not a scratch. <<Wouldn't that sort of cause a male circuit overload?>>: If menage-a-trois doesn't cause a male circuit overload, nothing can. Uh, not that I've ever done that... <<Who are you and what have you done with the real Imzadi?>>: I'm his evil twin. Or is that redundant? <<you shouldn't have such a bad opinion of your body>>: Ya know, grow up a nerd where women would just as soon run from you as talk to you, your opinion of your physical appears drops faster than a 500-lb laser guided bomb on Jupiter. <<You wouldn't _believe_ the awful models we had>>: Yes I would. I have lots of friends in art classes. <<you don't even come close to being that>>: I'm sorry, is that a compliment? I couldn't tell. ;-) You should know better than to compliment me, it only drives my ego. More. <<Josh proceeds to stop the evil corporation, take over the world, buy that place up at Lake Donner, and make everybody his slaves>>: Actually, I'll be ruling the world from Switzerland. But I'll probably have a place here at Donner anyway. Maybe I'll stop the evil corporation and use its assets for my own domination scheme! BUWAHAHAHA! As for making everyone my slaves...good god that's gonna be fun. For me. Maybe for a few of my friends. But it probably won't be too fun for any women... <<"Fred is fed...">>: Huh? <<that's why you avoided it>>: Or maybe just because I don't like pork. <<you're talking to the right person (if you wanted a positive review>>: What if I want a harem of beautiful women? Who do I talk to about one of those? <<Planet of the Apes was the first movie I got hooked on>>: Star Wars for me. <<Nothing happened>>: Suuuuurre. <<after they gave a guy two a$$_oles>>: I'm an @$$hole with an @$$hole, is it anything like that? <<I'll have to see if I can't get on a different connecting flight>>: A date and a time and I'm there. <<Commission for a nude, what?>>: Not of me... <<D@mmit, I don't have a good rebuttal>>: You should have several. <<there I was feeling all special that I made you feel special>>: Well, if not for the sarcasm, it would have been, few make me feel special ;-) <<you're at the top of my posting list!>>: JOY! Do you have any regrets about that? <<how long is it going to be before we start using posting as another "boink" or "bang" alternative?>>: You mean as a euphamism for sex? I'll start now if we all can get in on it. The problem is that it just doesn't work well here, since we actually ARE posting. <>: Okay, I'm bored waiting now. <<Bow chicka bow is just too flashy>>: How about bow chicka bow bow bow? <<Or can't I use multiple questions in my question? >>: I think a better question is why are you questioning our questioning of each other's questioning of Gside's questioning of my questioning of FS's questioning of Gside's questioning of why FS's questioning my questioning of FS's question? <<Shoots up a signal flare>>: Use something with a boom. I know nothing draws me like a big bang...uh, nevermind.

Jan: <<cross-eyed from reading Josh's post>>: Heh, heh. <<Some kind of new geek code?>>: Not exactly. I just ran my post through a filter and removed all the w,s, and x letters to emphasize my injury. <<it's good to know that our military personnel won't fall asleep on the front lines>>: Green Baron isn't exactly front lines. <<The ego I have no doubt has already recovered>>: Are you implying that I'm egotistical!?

That's right folks, I typed up the last post with absolutely no difficulty whatsoever. I just thought it'd be really funny if I ran it through a filter to replace those three letters with "_". I was feeling a bit sadistic.

Christine: <<Is there really such a big difference between staff sitting around reading / doing schoolwork / writing and staff sitting around surfing the net?>>: Actually, there's no difference. I know because I often mistakenly get paid for the wrong one.

Gside: <<You mean ring finger>>: Sh!t! Yes, I do. <<how's that stopping you from including swx in copied quotes?>>: Um, I retype them... yeah, that's the ticket. (sh!t, he got me!). <<Carry on, then>>: There will be many opportunities, no doubt. <>: The Brazillians would disagree. <<You'd want to be in the French maid outfit>>: Her, maybe. Though not jumping to conclusions yet, its fair to say that I would NOT want to be in that outfit. <<Almost makes me want to switch to trombone>>: Chicks dig it? <<Yes you do>>: Okay. What is it I have to do? <<this isn't just an engineer, this is an engineer from Jersey>>: Whatever. There's nothing scarier than a Berkeley engineer. <<for some reason, I doubt that>>: Yeah, all that typing while playing violin... <<Nor has anything of mine>>: Nor has anything of anyone else's! <<Does that stop me?>>: Nope. <<Does everyone wish it did?>>: Nope. <<You're making things way more complex than they are>>: I've watched people when a circuit blew...magic blue smoke from the ears. Not pretty. <<questioning>>: Why are you questioning her questioning of our questioning of our questioning of your questioning of FS's questioning of my questioning of FS's question? <<If the qestioning goes on much longer, you won't notice it>>: yeah it'll pretty much flood the CR.

Yeah, so that's why I didn't just use one hand to type my post. I wanted some entertainment. So I used a nifty program called BBedit (I'm sure Word would work too, and just replaced the letters I "couldn't" type with "_". Heh. Heh. Heh.

Well, enough torturing the CR. Good night folks. See ya'll tomorrow. I'll post about Apple's new machines, as if any of you care...but you'll all be able to imagine me drooling (that might not be so difficult for some of you).

Bridges in Kansas? No, but I have some ships from the Swiss Navy!
-Warpmind de InzanE, at Gathering 2001

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Truckee, CA, US of A
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 10:06:06 PM
IP: ppp-64-170-17-93.scrm01.pacbell.net

Me again ... check it out, here's a site with the anthology that'll include my story! Whee! ; )
Christine - [<---- Zombies!]
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 08:56:36 PM
IP: 01-063.075.popsite.net

Imzadi> <<my left inde_ finger _uffered _ome _tre__e_ _uch that it i_ no_ painful to u_e it to type>>: You mean ring finger. And how's that stopping you from including swx in copied quotes?
<<That _a_ a generic engineering in_ult>>: Ah. Carry on, then.
<<Any point thi_ _ummer>>: I do believe December is beyond the bounds of the definition of summer.
<>: Right. You'd want to be in the French maid outfit.
<<_ho?>>: Lead singer of Crash Test Dummies. Nice low voice. I've posted a couple of their songs.
<<None of that "fret" garbage>>: Almost makes me want to switch to trombone. But I have no idea how to work a brass (something like trying to blow a fly off your nose?).
<<Do I have to?>>: Yes. Yes you do.
<<It'll take more than a picture of an engineer to pi__ me off>>: But remember, this isn't just an engineer, this is an engineer from Jersey (and I was referring more to state of mind than physical appearance).
<>: No? It's quite fun ("Baby take off your coat...(real slow)/Baby take off your shoes...(here I'll take your shoes)/Baby take off your dress/Yes yes yes/You can leave your hat on.../Go on over there and turn on the light...no all the lights/Now come back here and stand on this chair...that's right/Raise your arms up in to the air...shake 'em").
<>: Well, it generally stops being a drink once it goes down your throat.

Kyryn> <>: for some reason, I doubt that.

Lynati> <<No, nothing I've written has been worth actually posting>>: Nor has anything of mine. Does that stop me? Does everyone wish it did?

Green Baron> <<I'll be happy to remain stateside>>: There's always Ft. Monmouth, if you don't mind Jersey or the Signal Corps.
<<I've been reading a lot of Mario Puzo's books>>: "...Well I'm pounding the ouzo/With Mario Puzo..." -My Baby Loves A Bunch of Authors.

Niamhgold> <<Wouldn't that sort of cause a male circuit overload?>>: What circuit? You're making things way more complex than they are.
<<I'm sorry to say>>: No you aren't. Not in the least.
<<Then we need someone to start up another riddle round>>: I believe that is David G.'s cue.
<<chicka bow bow is fine>>: All right: Chicka bow bow.
<<Why are you two questioning each other's questioning of Gside's questioning of Josh's questioning of Firestorm's questioning of Gside's questioning of why Firestorm's questioning Josh's questioning of Firestorm's question?>>: Why are you questioning our questioining of our questioning of my questioning of Fire Storm's questioning of Imzadi's questioning of Fire Storm's question?
<<This place is waaayyyy too dead>>: If the qestioning goes on much longer, you won't notice it.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 08:54:27 PM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

There's always so much to read when I can't get to the room for four days! I've tried taking the laptop to work, but for some reason cannot ever quite successfully get all the way online. Darn it. Wish they'd just give us access there anyway. Is there really such a big difference between staff sitting around reading / doing schoolwork / writing and staff sitting around surfing the net? ::longsuffering sigh::

From last week:
Spike > congratulations to your brother-in-law! That's a great honor, and tremendous progress for him.

Josh > re: Alinora's family -- well, her nephew is a snotty spoiled brat, her sister-in-law is a histrionic wreck, her father is revenge-obsessed with Arien, and her sister is (and this was initially coincidence of appearance) basically Aiden with ears. When I realized that, I exploited it ; )

Stephen > glad you liked the demo tape! I can't wait to hear the rest either. Apparently, horror is the most popular genre for audio books, too, which is good.

Progress report > having just finished the revision, I will be sending Knight of the Basilisk to RAP this week. Whereupon they'll take one look at an entire book of Morvalan dialect and freak out completely. Nah, Casey tells me she likes the way they talk, so maybe it'll be okay. In other news, I'm done with the rough draft of the new and improved GURPS Sex, and turning it over to Tim so he can check all the rules and numbers. I think tonight I'll get back into Changeling Moon, the 3rd Trinity Bay book, though I should be working on an adventure for Dragonflight next month. Mystery of the Elven Mummies. Eep.

Speaking of cons, I'm definitely going to be at DragonCon in Atlanta over Labor Day weekend, if anyone's in the area and wants to link up.

Planet of the Apes > I've never seen the original either ... it's one of those things that seems to be part of our cultural default though ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 08:28:49 PM
IP: 01-063.075.popsite.net

*cross-eyed from reading Josh's post* whoa, buddy! *L* Some kind of new geek code? ;)

Welcome back Rolodex. :)

Niamgold> question of a question of a question... *L* that had me tongue tied! very clever *nodnodnod* =D

Green Baron> lack of sleep..... it's good to know that our military personnel won't fall asleep on the front lines while protecting our sorry asses! ;)
Keep us posted on your next post assignment!
I love the military and appreciate their dedication to protecting and serving our country :) A while back I was in a McDonald's getting a drink and 4 army privates came in. You could tell they were counting their pennies to buy a meal, so.... I bought them all value meals and told them that I appreciated them. I've never seen 4 men smile as big as they did. So yeah - tell the next guy/gal you see in military uniform that you appreciate them! *stands back and salutes the American flag* ;)

Josh> I hope your tush, finger, and ego heals quickly :) The ego I have no doubt has already recovered ;)

Only 167 days till the Year 2002
Jan
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 07:47:39 PM
IP: modem17-51.mo-net.com

{this is from scrolling down}...

ps: Spacebaby and anyone else who commented on this subject:
<Speaking of news shows...Did anyone see the Chronical last night?>

yes...both of them. there are now, after hours of hard work, the egroup _ChronicleFans@onelist.com_ {minus the '_'s}.

it's troll-free; it's open to fanfic, discussions, theories, specularionscrossovers {the Chronicle investigates the gargs? the Illuminati?}, and more!

Rodlox
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 07:17:40 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

I, Rodlox of Edz'toolar, Gargoyle of Glockenshpiel, Grendel of the Chat, and Dragon of MST3000s....humbly return to your company.

:)

<--out of curiosity, are there any other Garg pics with Brooklyn's pterosaur wings?

AND, speaking of that, tomorow I go to see _JURASSIC PARK THREE_!!!

{whether a crossover with the film or not, I WILL be writing a garg fic soon...Brooklyn encountering a little pterosaur lass}.

of course, when one's wingspan is 40-60 feet across.... *G*
{guess the genera}....or not. :)
RODLOX - [@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 07:12:48 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

** Niamhgold enters **

Woo, woo, just when I thought my summer was going to be a stuck-inside-all-the-time drab, the people that sell stuff to my dad's business gave us four, 1-week long passes to Disney :) Heh, he's booking the hotel as we speak! This is just cool/weird, simply because my friend from college, Michelle, works as a caricature artist in the MGM theme park :) I hope I run into her!

Josh: Hey, I think you're vacation karma has rubbed off on me, and that's why I get some time off, too! <Accidents/bee sting> Ouchie mama, that's gotta suck. I'm sorry to here about the accident(s)...as if Friday the 13th is hitting you with a suprise attack. Well, that and Murphy. I'll blow him away for ya. <that I'm immortal> Well, that doesn't necessarily prove that you are immortal, just proves that you have a high immune system (or that you aren't prone to anapheleptic shock). But, then again, maybe you are, because all this sh_t went down and you're still able to post ;) <one really cute girl...the rest of my body> I'll just attribute that to your pain. However, with all the slurring that I'm sure the sting caused, maybe you could get away with that as a subtle pickup line (if you haven't already tried it at this point, I'd be surprised ;)) <Speaking of cute girls...> And glad to see that you have some eye candy :P <Should be relaxing> Dare you say it, with Murphy still on the prowl? <And think of how many women I could check out!> Wouldn't that sort of cause a male circuit overload? ;) Who are you and what have you done with the real Imzadi?!? Seriously, though, you shouldn't have such a bad opinion of your body. You wouldn't _believe_ the awful models we had, and, trust me, you don't even come close to being that...well, weird, I suppose is the best word at this point. ;) <I had this horrible nightmare where I was working for this company that was secretly testing biological weapons on me and my family (obviously, I didn't know about it). Scary conspiracy-type back-stabbing stuff. Don't know exactly what that means, and quite frankly I don't think I want to know.> Maybe you were sleepwalking and it's all really true. And this is the _rival_ organization's way of letting you realize it. Then, Josh proceeds to stop the evil corporation, take over the world, buy that place up at Lake Donner, and make everybody his slaves. Woah...just found myself going into narrative mode, there..."Fred is fed..." ;) <Dad made bacon and eggs> Perhaps that fits into the whole biological-testing nightmare, and that's why you avoided it :o <planet of the apes> Well, you're talking to the right person (if you wanted a positive review on all the movies, that is)! ** Spoilers ** This is _only_ if you don't wanna find out for yourself...which I recommend. Basically, it was nuclear war...planet destroyed itself, we got too powerful, blah, blah, but if you watch it you will get some of that really cool time travel theories, the same stuff as hypothesized in Gargoyles--if you go into the past, you can't change anything, because you were there in the first place. And this doesn't come to light until the third/fourth ones. And the fifth, believe it or not, is awesome. And "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" explains what happened to *another* set of humans, who can talk...plus, it centers around Nova instead of Heston's character. ** End Spoilers ** Whew! Sorry, but Planet of the Apes was the first movie I got hooked on :) (Well, barring, *ahem*, the my little pony movies when I was a wee lass...) <Um, this was a final fantasy movie, right?> And thus it was very odd...welcome...but kinda ethereal. Of course, there were a share of long-haired mullet men, but they thankfully sat on the other side. <Mind if we start the music now?> Let's stick to something a little more chaste. Nothing happened :( Well, anything's possible after they gave a guy two a$$_oles **shudders** <Nearest airport is Reno> I'll have to see if I can't get on a different connecting flight when we head back from Orlando ;) Commission for a nude, what? <In general, you shouldn't offer me anything that a) you won't want to give me more of, b) you'll regret giving me the next day. That covers a wide range of subjects, I think.> ...D@mmit, I don't have a good rebuttal for that one ;) <Aww, and there I was feeling all special> Aww, and there I was feeling all special that I made you feel special...'til I figured out the sarcasm ;) How's this for special...you're at the top of my posting list! (Ya know, how long is it going to be before we start using posting as another "boink" or "bang" alternative?) I'll let you take off on that note ;)

Gside: <You still haven't denied my suspicion of your costume...> Oops, sorry! Well, I'm sorry to say...I do have to deny it. I guess the CR will just have to wait for piccies. <Don't think there is enough to make a conclusion about that> Then we need someone to start up another riddle round! ;) Oh, and chicka bow bow is fine. Bow chicka bow is just too flashy ;)

Josh & Gside: Why are you two questioning each other's questioning of Gside's questioning of Josh's questioning of Firestorm's questioning of Gside's questioning of why Firestorm's questioning Josh's questioning of Firestorm's question? Or can't I use multiple questions in my question? ;)

This place is waaayyyy too dead. ** Shoots up a signal flare, and hopes that draws in the locals **

Adios!

Niamhgold
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 04:30:14 PM
IP: lac-flex156.ncia.net

Just was reading in S8 Main that "Team Atlantis" has been officially flushed down the crapper by Disney. Apparently the film wasn't doing as well at the box office as they *thought* it would, so the series has been scrapped.

Which means no new Demona story. DAMMIT! **kicks over a trash can on his way out**
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 03:26:10 PM
IP: 64.243.214.43

Greetings to all.

Well, the military has given me the ability to go without sleep. Friday and Monday, I had CQ duty which requires me to be up for 24 hours. Overall, this is a good duty, because thinsg are epaceful in the company area and I am the head guy out of all the people in my shift (mainly because I'm an E-4, which si the highest ranking for trainees generally). After my Friday shift ended Saturday morning, Hetaher picked me up and I guess I was so happy to see her, that I didn't even fall asleep until 1:30 Sunday morning, though I spent most of Sunday recovering from the 24 hour detail. Today, I went straight to bed after my shift eneded and didn't get up until 2 pm.

In other news, my new orders haven't arrived yet, but I'm hoping to stay here or go to Ft Stewart or Ft McPherson, so I'll be in the general area, though I'll be happy to remain stateside.

Jaden> Well, Ft Polk is in swampland, but it is in my homestate. It is miserable, from what I hear, too.

Kathy> I don't know if I can get Ft McPherson, since it is a high demand location, but if I do, I'll tak eyou up on that lunch :)

Ordell> I'm rather partial to Planet of the Apes in teh roiginal, though largely because I love the dark anti-hero role Charleton Heston plays, which also makes Omega Man and Soylent Green so good. The movie looks good from teh previews, but if Matt Damon plays the Heston role, I think he's too young. Someone in hsi 40s should play it to make it more like Heston (though Heston looks 10 years younger that he is), though Schwarzzanager is the only one to come to mind or Harrison Ford.

SOROW> You're not going? :( Why not?

Shauntell> I haven't seen you in a while, though I've been out of commsiion for five months, too. Thanks for warning me about ATT.

Shadowrider> Wel, fellow soldier, I'm happy to see you again. BTW, I've been reading a lot of Mario Puzo's books and he really captures the beauty of your country, primarily Sicily.

Jackal and Aris> Finally, the war is ended. Thank God there were no caualties, except for how many peopel have quit posting over the last few years. Perhaps now Starsinger will return.

Jackal> What's the Georgia, Korea part? I don't understand that.

Jaden> Well, if I get Korea, I'll look you up. The only good thing about Korea is how much money I will save if I get sent there.

BTW, I wonder where Robby, Lexy, and Kaioto are.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Ft. Benning, GA
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 02:31:27 PM
IP: wcs3.norfolk.nipr.mil

I swear that vacation time has arrived for CR dwellers. Posts are getting shorter and less frequent.

You know we really should do something about that.

Josh - what's wrong with your keyboard? It's looks like the w, s, and x keys aren't working? Or are you doing that deliberately?
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 11:17:27 AM
IP: max1-12.cwy.cei.net

*Delurks*

...
No, nothing I've written has been worth actually posting. ?-?
Making this a rather short post after all the deleting.
Have a happy day.

*Gives a thumbs-up sign and a forced smile to the CR, and exits.*

Lynati "timing is everything" Kshudra - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 09:49:46 AM
IP: dialup-64.157.78.218.dial1.weehawken1.level3.net

****Kyryn steps into the room.****

You aren't the only one FS. I guess that Josh has never learned the versatility of typing with one hand. ;)

Stephen> I'm glad that you and Heather had a wonderful outing.

Warpmind> Glad to hear that you got home intact.

Spike> Congrats to your brother-in-law! Be sure to let me know where and when he is going to be running. I would love to come and cheer him on if I can.

Josh> Thanks for the running commentary on your vacation. It sounds wonderful. Okami and I are planning to go camping with some friends in a nearby state park on the first weekend of August. Rollerblades -- I learned to wear pads about the same way that you did. I originally reasoned "I've never worn pads while skating before, why should I need them for rollerblades." A fast turn, a hidden crack in the sidewalk, and rolling fall into some bushes (not to mention the bruises and cuts) convinced me otherwise. My sympathy for the aches and pains.

BTW, I typed this post entirely right handed just to see if still could.

Later, All!

****Kyryn vanishes into the nearby sunlight.****

Kyryn - [kyrynsan@hotmail.com]
Denton, TX
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 09:12:55 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

OUCH! My head hurts from trying to read the last post! ;)
Fire Storm - [Mad_xenomorph@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:16:22 AM
IP: 206.25.115.145

***Jo_h limp_ into the CR, looking brui_ed, beaten, and abu_ed, holding variou_ part_ of hi_ body***

OUCH!

Thi_ morning I _oke up at around 11AM and _e all got ready to go on our little river rafting trip do_n the Truckee. By 12 _hen it _a_ time to leave, _e looked out_ide. It _a_ cold, overca_t, and _indy. Not a good combination for rafting do_n a river that'_ really cold _hen it_ hot out_ide. And _e're LA people, _o _e're "_eather _u__e_". _o _e _kipped the rafting and at the picnic lunch that _e'd made for the trip at home in_tead. Then _e decided to go on a little bike ride on a path that lead_ into Tahoe City. It_ not long, maybe 4-5 mile_. I decided to rollerblade.

_hen I rollerblade, I don't _ear pad_. Gue__ _hat happened?

***_ee_ Murphy _mirking in the corner of the room*** yeah, you _ere there you little jerk. You are _O on my _h*t li_t.

The la_t part of the ride into to_n goe_ over a little bridge. I tried to do a double-jump on the bridge, and apparently my back left _heel and my brake hit the bottom of the bump, _hich _ith my momentum pu_hed my leg_ out from under me. I landed _qarely on my rear and my hand_. And there'_ not much padding on either of tho_e.

OUCH!

Of cour_e, my pride _a_ more damaged than any other part of my body, and I got right back up ju_t a fe_ _econd_ later "don't _orry, I'm fine" I _aid. I _at do_n a fe_ minute_ later and e_amined my beautiful bod, _orked a fe_ kink_ out of my _y_tem, and I _a_ good to go, although a bit achy. My left leg i_ _tiff, my _ri_t_ are a little _tiff, and my left inde_ finger _uffered _ome _tre__e_ _uch that it i_ no_ painful to u_e it to type. A_ _uch, the certain letter_ that I type _ith my left inde_ finger are mi__ing from thi_ po_t. I'm _ure mo_t of you kno_ _hich one_ they are.

The irony of thi_ i_ that ye_terday I _a_ looking at _ri_t guard_ and thought "na_, I don't need tho_e". I bought them a_ _oon a_ I got into to_n.

_o at the end of the ride (_hich _a_ about 10 minute_ after thi_ happened) _e had _omething to drink at a burger place and then turned around and headed back.

On the _ay back, I _a_ _creaming along to Linkin Park _hen a bee fle_ into my mouth and _tung my tongue.

OUCH! Again!

I immediately e_pelled the _inged ba_tard, but not before he _tung me. At fir_t I didn't realize it, then _uddenly my tongue hurt and then a _ection of it __elled _lightly. 20 minute_ later, I _a_ fine, proving once again that I have a tremendou_ immune _y_tem (I'm al_o immune to puppy-dog face_ by _omen and _tinging Nettle_) and that I'm immortal.

Any_ay, of all my injurie_ _u_tained today, only my finger _till hurt_. But _hat I'd really like i_ for _ome really cute cute girl to ma__age my tongue a bit, and maybe the re_t of my body.

_peaking of cute girl_, I have _een a fe_ up here. _J, I'll try to _nap a fe_ photo_ for you. No one that'_ really made me drool _ildly, but cutie_ nonethele__. It_ a mountain to_n thing, I gue__.

_e're going for _u_hi later, and _e've rented "Dude, _here'_ My Car?", "_ome like it Hot", and "_hen Trumpet_ Fade" to _atch in the ne_t couple day_.

Okay _u_hi _a_ good. I had thi_ amazing roll _ith _hrimp and _tuff _rapped in eel. Yum. That place ha_ been there a_ long a_ _e've been coming to Lake Donner (_hich, I believe, _tarted about 7 or 8 year_ ago) and _e've never eaten there. Too bad, cuz it _a_ good _tuff. _ell, _e'll be eating there again in the future.

Then _e _ent on thi_ _illy drive through the backroad_ of the Tahoe/Donner development, _hich i_ a ma__ive _erie_ of really a_e_ome hou_e_ (one of _hich i_ the one _e've rented). It _a_ really boring and a little nau_eating, _ince it _a_ a _erie_ of really curvy road_ at night.

Any_ay, _e're having a great time up here. Tomorro_ _e're _uppo_ed to actually do the river raft do_n the Truckee, then maybe _ee _core. _hould be rela_ing.

God thi_ room _a_ dead today!

Ordell: <<You had never _een the original?>>: I'm uncultured. <<Jay and _ilent Bob>>: That'_ out thi_ _ummer?! __eet!

_arpmind: <<I'm home>>: Congrat_ on living through a trip to the U_ of A. Not _o ea_y. <>: Maybe you could help me out _ith a _imilar problem I'm having getting to Canada? <<interpret that a_ you _ill>>: Okay, I _ill. <>: That'_ _hat they all _ay. <<Rule #1: Fir_t, earn their full tru_t>>: They all _ay that too. <<one of the mo_t po_erful necromancer_ in hi_tory... and he'_ a popular noble, filthy rich, and an alcoholic>>: Actually, that _ound_ a lot like my roommate.

G_ide: <<Theoretically, but there are con_ideration_ of _torage and biological deterioration>>: Bah. <<_hat? I u_e _oap>>: That _a_ a generic engineering in_ult. <<you mean _hile you're at the lake>>: Any point thi_ _ummer. <<An all too ea_y mi_take to make>>: Only for a male. <<_hy are your que_tioning hi_ que_tioning my que_tioning of _hy he'_ que_tioning your que_tioning of hi_ que_tion?>>: _hy are you que_tioning my que_tioning of hi_ que_tioning of your que_tioning of _hy he'_ que_tioning my que_tioning of hi_ que_tion? <<Bo_ chicka...>>: Bo_ bo_, chika bo_ bo_. <<360 binocular vi_ion. Great for tho_e infiltration mi__ion_>>: And think ho_ many _omen I could check out at once! <<And it make_ no biological _en_e>>: Maybe that'_ _hy. Then again, maybe it_ ju_t becau_e men are greedy ba_tard_. <<Of your_elf in the nude>>: I _ould never do _uch a terrible thing to an arti_t a_ generou_ a_ Niamhgold. <<_ould have been e_traordinarially plea_ed if it did happen>>: E_tremely i_ an under_tatement. Not to mention ho_ plea_ed _J _ould have been. <<More _o than Brad Robert_>>: _ho? <<A true _tring, not one of the modern one_>>: Ye_, a real challenge. None of that "fret" garbage. <<Ju_t take a good long look at me>>: Do I have to? <<try not to go mad in the proce__>>: It'll take more than a picture of an engineer to pi__ me off, after all, I do o_n a mirror. <<Phobia_ are never quite fun>>: They can be if they're _omeone el_e'_... <<For the limit. And I am a CompE>>: Ah, I _ee. <<_o _aht doe_ that make me?>>: Depend_ on _ho you talk to. You _eem to think you don't have one. _o I'll _ay good. <<I'd go for at lea_t Ne_man'_ Leave Your Hat On>>: I _ould join you...but I don't kno_ that one. <<I_ that a challenge?>>: I think it_ one of tho_e "__i__ navy _hip" o_ymoron type thing_. <<Ho_ often doe_ he re_urrect hi_ la_t drink?>>: I don't think drink_ can die. Though there are _everal na_ty D&D _pell_ that _ould _uit that purpo_e.

K folk_, I'm off to bed. Good night.

Ho_'d they _in? _ell, they _cored more point_ than _e did.
-Larry _urzel, on the 76'er_/Laker_ playoff_

Jo_h "Imzadi" _urzel - [jo_h@kicktothenut_.com]
Truckee, CA, U_ of A
Monday, July 16, 2001 11:15:21 PM
IP: ppp-207-215-84-6.dialup.scrm01.pacbell.net

Fire Storm> <<we could keep this going forever>>: Theoretically, but there are considerations of storage and biological deterioration.

Imzadi> <<Gside take note>>: What? I use soap. My female problems are from other avenues than just cleanliness.
<<what else do we need to see?>>: Fellowship. Oh, wait, you mean while you're at the lake...
<<Maybe he wasn't looking at the costume>>: An all too easy mistake to make.
<<Why are you questioning Gside's questioning of why you're questioning my questioning of your questions?>>: Why are your questioning his questioning my questioning of why he's questioning your questioning of his question?
<<Do you mind if Gside and I start the music NOW>>: I don't mind. Bow chicka...
<>: You would be surprised. And just think if we could add an extra eye on each side: 360 binocular vision. Great for those infiltration missions.
<<I'm pretty sure there are no religions that permit women to have multiple husbands>>: And it makes no biological sense.
<>: Of yourself in the nude.
<>: Sure you were... Actually you probably were, but would have been extraordinarially pleased if it did happen.
<<Eh, not really>>: More so than Brad Roberts.
<<"Whore" implies that>>: Right, but the point was I didn't get paid.
<>: Ah. A true string, not one of the modern ones. Very good then.
<<can you explain some of its properties?>>: Just take a good long look at me. And try not to go mad in the process.
<<Just like the force>>: Incidentally, that was a quote from Narbonic(.com), where the personality farie did bear a remarkable resemblance to Old Ben.
<<Treasure it>>: I intend to.
<<it doesn't happen often>>: We shall see.
<<I'm not impressed any more>>: Good. Wait, that's not good.
<<Is that more or less effective than dropping acid?>>: Right now I'm voting for more.
<<The word or the activity?>>: Phobias are never quite fun.
<<why were you thinking about making something small?>>: For the limit. And I am a CompE.
<<Good engineers don't have egos. Great ones do>>: So waht does that make me?
<>: I'd go for at least Newman's Leave Your Hat On.

Warpmind> <>: Aw. And the second can be quite fun.
<<interpret that as you will>>: I do beieve I shall.
<<several people in here are inclined to do so anyway>>: Thank you for remembering.
<<sometime after someone manages to cheaply insure a
Lamborghini Diablo in New Jersey>>: Is that a challenge?
<<one of the most powerful necromancers in history... and he's a popular noble, filthy rich, and an alcoholic>>: How often does he resurrect his last drink?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, July 16, 2001 08:45:56 PM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Quickie this evening ...

TO G2K1 STAFFERS IN GENERAL: XenaTrek wishes me to inform you that she has yet to receive the T-shirt she was promised that I tried to pick up for her but was told it was already set aside to be mailed. If you all could get in touch with her about this issue, it would be appreciated.

TO CRZY: Any ETA on the Greg Guler art that I won at the auction? :)

That is all.
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, July 16, 2001 08:31:35 PM
IP: 64.243.208.102.i-is.com

*Warpmind enters, seemingly a bit stressed.*
Hey, gang... I'm home. After ye many hours quarreling with the airline (it turned out that my travel agent lied to my face - the return flight date was NOT changeable after all, and I didn't have the over 1400$ for a NEW ticket... but I managed to work something out without paying extra or spilling anyones bodily fluids. I didn't even have to make threats, subtle or unsubtle... And the REAL scary part is that the positive 180 occured on Friday 13th, to boot...) Anyway, now I'm trying to get reorganized, and to get rid of this slight jetlag...

On to replies...

Niamhgold: Ask for a vegetable? Tsk, I don't particularly enjoy eating anything without a face... interpret that as you will; several people in here are inclined to do so anyway...

Josh: The whole point of having them collectible would be that you'd have to go out of your way to get the real rare, precious cards. However, I did not notice that it was required to have the real card present before I made that contemptuous snort. I can accept proxies, after all; I just misunderstood the concept of them a little. Oh, and I am, may I emphasize, NOT whipped. Just a tiiiiiny bit insidious, deceptive and scheming. (Rule #1: First, earn their full trust... ya know?) };)

Spike: Your in-law gets to bear the olympic torch? Yay! Congrats to him!

Well, that approaches the end of the post... My bank account is a bit strained; I think I'll be back in balance sometime after someone manages to cheaply insure a Lamborghini Diablo in New Jersey... and my e-mail - my NEW e-mail (yes, I succumbed to Microshaft's free webmail service) - is up. And I need some more GURPS books to craft the character I'm working on... I need the necromantic spells. Imagine one of the most powerful necromancers in history... and he's a popular noble, filthy rich, and an alcoholic. Makes for a REALLY interesting combination, don't ya think? };) (I'll probably cast him as an NPC, though, rather than a PC...) Oh, that's right... *Scurries off to Paypal.* Must update this, too... and Amazon.com... and stuff...

Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, July 16, 2001 11:06:22 AM
IP: mp-217-199-183.daxnet.no

Josh - <<Planet of the Apes>> You had never seen the original? Shock and dismay. All of the four sequels (Beneath, Escape, Conquest, and Battle) are good in their own rights. Beneath has a creepy ending, and Conquest is especially dark in tone. The worst one is Battle, and it's not *that* bad. There's also a one season series they show on the SciFi Channel every once and a while that isn't that bad.

That's why I'm torn with the new movie coming out. I'm a fairly big movie fan, and if I had to choose a favorite, one that I could watch twenty times a day and still have the energy to watch it again, it would be the original Planet of the Apes. So, you may think, I'd be so against this new version coming out. But... it's Tim Burton... and... and Tim Roth is in it. And there's a new comic series coming out (which I can't read yet because it's set twenty years after the new movie) with really cool art by Scott Campbell. So, yeah, I'm excited about seeing the new version.

Other movies I'm psyched about seeing this summer: Final Fantasy (which I think I'm seeing today), Jurassic Park III, Rush Hour 2, and especially, above all else, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

I have to go back to school now...
Alan Coleman "Ordell" Waltrip - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa/Midland, Texas
Monday, July 16, 2001 09:14:13 AM
IP: d4ixk.odecpe.cableone.net

Hey all!

As usual for the summer, I'm just writing one post a day, so I kind of update it as I go. That's why I say "I'm gonna do whatever" and then say "I did whatever, it was cool". Not trying to confuse, just don't feel like writing too many posts.

Went to bed last night at about 10PM cuz I was tired from sitting in a car all day (more tiring than you think, and I wasn't even driving!). Woke up at 11AM this morning, which means I actually slept for 13 hours. YES!

I had this horrible nightmare where I was working for this company that was secretly testing biological weapons on me and my family (obviously, I didn't know about it). Scary conspiracy-type back-stabbing stuff. Don't know exactly what that means, and quite frankly I don't think I want to know.

After waking up, we had breakfast outside on the patio. Dad made bacon and eggs...I avoided it like the plague in favor of a bagel. Then we sat around for a while deciding what to do today, while my brother figured out that showers don't work unless you use soap (don't ask, and Gside take note).

We went to a couple sporting good stores to get white-soled shoes from my dad and my bro, because the courts at the club won't let you on without them. After driving around for a little bit and going to the absolutely beautiful Squaw Valley (home of the 1960-something Winter Olympics) we hit Safeway and picked up some chicken for BBQ tonight. Mom and I are lounging in the cabin reading (or in my, case, writing a post and then reading) while Dad and Alex go play Tennis. Don't expect much going on tonight, though we rented the original Planet of the Apes in preparation for the new one coming out.

We've got a list of movies to catch while we're up here: American Pie 2, Planet of the Apes, Final Fantasy, Jurassic Park III...what else do we need to see?

Okay we watched Planet of the Apes (the original). Pretty cool, I'd never seen it before. I'm actually considering renting the sequels, even though I know they're gonna suck. Anyone want to save me a few bucks and tell me if we find out what cataclysm wiped out modern humans? And if we do find out in the movies, what is it?

Today I learned that few things compare to curling up in a big chair reading a good book and drinking a beer. Except that I hate beer. So we'll use "hard lemonade" in its place.

I also reminded myself how much I love fudge by eating an entire block of the stuff today.

Tomorrow we're going river rafting on the Truckee river. We're doing the easy section, which is mostly 1's and one 2 (rapid levels go up to 5, for those not in the know, with 5 being rediculously difficult to escape alive). I've done 4's before, but my parents and brother aren't up to that, so it should just be a calm stroll down the river. I'll tell you all about it tomorrow.

Siofra: <>: I wish that worked for my brother. He's still taking it every 4 hours or whatever and his jaw is killing him. <<Been doing it since I was three years old>>: I wish I'd learned to ski earlier, I'd be so much better. As it is, I'm decent, but that mental block against diamond runs evolved precisely because I didn't learn to ski until I was 15. <<My family goes about every other weekend>>: I am SOOOO jealous you don't even know. <<if you haven't seen the movie 'Snatch'>>: That movie got the dubious honor of being the most pirated movie on the net...where'd you see it? ;-) <>: You definitely MiST some great times. (yuk, yuk). <<convince my parents that I won't die if I go on a road trip next year>>: At 20, it shouldn't be that difficult. Even a mama's boy like myself can convince my parents to let me fly around all willy-nilly. <<he said that I would look really hot in something like that>>: Chicks with wings rock. <>: Maybe he wasn't looking at the costume... <<the ears looked a little too natural on me>>: That's a good thing in this crowd. <<Why is this clock always off?>>: Maybe its right and YOU'RE off ;-)

SJ: <<NEIN!>>: That's my line! ;-)

Fire Storm: <<Why all the questions about my latin questions?>>: I only asked one. And its because I'm curious. Perhaps I should just refer you to a couple sites:
http://dictionaries.travlang.com/EnglishLatin/
http://www.histopia.nl/onldict/lat.html
are the translation engines I used in my fic. Work pretty well. <<Ya know... we could keep this going forever!>>: Should we try? Why are you questioning Gside's questioning of why you're questioning my questioning of your questions?

Aris: <<Consider it accepted>>: And there was peace. yay.

Niamhgold: <<good for my portfolio>>: Don't you just love the feeling of completing a "resume builder"? <<ever since then the sun won't show its lovely face>>: a) the sun is an ugly yellow creature (I'm a night person, duh) and b) you are SO on the wrong coast. <<the place was packed with surprisingly decent-looking males>>: Do you mind if Gside and I start the music NOW instead of with the Stephen thing? <<decent-looking males>>: Um, this was a final fantasy movie, right? <<they said the plot was too "complicated">>: Yeah, well if they're so smart why the hell are they movie critics? <<As George Carlin says>>: Truly a god among men. <<Just don't sip from a straw!>>: Yeah, because the jokes coming from the CR will only get worse! <<(a) if I want to participate in the contest and (b) exactly who/what I should be>>: A metaphor for real life, if ever there was one. <<And not posting soley for you this time, either>>: Awww, nuts. And there I was feeling all special again. <<I'm glad to see you got to Lake Donner all right!>>: Ditto. <<two weeks of sleeping, eating, and...well, whatever the heck else you want to do>>: If only the word "want" had anything to do with it...the other stuff this trip will be mostly reading, river rafting, waverunning, and working on my non-existent tan. <<interesting concept>>: "alien" concept is more like it. <<almost got rear-ended twice>>: While driving? ;-) <<the guy in back of me was genetically engineered to have guppy eyes>>: Perhaps it was enough to just be an anomaly. I seriously doubt there are scientists sitting up late at night thinking "how can we get eyes on the sides of peoples heads? That'd be really cool!" <<cut off more times than my fingers and toes would count>>: The first time I read that sentence, I thought it said "cut off more fingers and toes than I could count"...weird. <<how can I resist when you use sweet talk like that?>>: You can't, that's why I use it ;-) Nearest airport is Reno ;-) <<I'm going to buy a summer place in Scotland>>: Cool! But you're thinking to small. I was thinking "buy Scotland" ;-) In any case, I'm going to visit that. <<Because the english language is regressing>>: We should only be so lucky. <>: No padding. I actually can't sit for too long without getting serious pains. Maybe that's why I stand so much. <<she's actually right>>: Walk around for a few months in my shoes and see if you still think so...well actually my shoes might not help. But you get the idea. <<the success of the matter all depends where you strategically place the latter three items>>: They are strategically placed so that I get lucky ;-) <<Heh>>: And none of them clean. <<Um...nevermind>>: Heh, heh. Read my mind much? <<what the heck do you *legitimately* call a woman who does that?>>: I'm pretty sure there are no religions that permit women to have multiple husbands. <<anything for a friend>>: I wouldn't ever say that to me, I just might take advantage of that offer some day and ask for...artwork ;-) <<I'm gonna regret that comment, now, aren't I?>>: Yeah, probably. In general, you shouldn't offer me anything that a) you won't want to give me more of, b) you'll regret giving me the next day. That covers a wide range of subjects, I think. <<You and your ego>>: Yeah, engineers are the worst...DOH! <<Looks to Josh and Gside to begin the music>>: Bow chika bow. <<"Adios all" should naturally be at the _end_ of my post>>: As you've noticed from my IM conversations, "bye" is often rarely close to the actual end of a conversation.

Spacebabie: <<perferably some that actually watches TV>>: And another one that actually sees movies, and another that actually listens to music. <<Try and Guess...You'll never get it>>: Sounds like something out of "Clarissa Explains it All"

Shadowrider: <<a pity we'll never find out>>: I'm sure Dreamie doesn't think its a pity. <<????!>>: Its a song lyric. Gside got it.

DPH: <<user id>>: Well, you have two options. One is to get a different screen name, contact "dphofrules" and ask for your name, or even offer him $$. He'll probably tell you to get lost. Your other option is to use a variant of dphofrules, such as dph0frules (with a zero instead of an o) or dphonAIM or someting. Are you sure that aol doesn't allow dphofrules? Because I know that "dph_of_rules" isn't a valid screen name, and aol may not accept "dph of rules" even though you can format a name that way once you've registered it. In any case, don't give up.

Sorow: <<not going to the Gathering next year>>: Oh well. <<how about no>>: I was just kidding.

Gside: <<He does sound like a girl, though>>: Eh, not really. <<Only if I get paid>>: "Whore" implies that. <<yet requires no caluses>>: I played violin for 10 years and never got any caluses. <<you get lip and tongue exercise>>: This is true. <<It loses a certain je ne sais quoi, if taken away from its natural habitat>>: Ah. Does that mean I have to fly to Jersey to sample it? In any case, since I'm not doing that, can you explain some of its properties? <<The urge to work with mad scientists is strong withing you>>: Just like the force. <<**gloating ensues**>>: Treasure it, it doesn't happen often. <<So I can search the web>>: Okay, I'm not impressed any more. <<the more recent additions were made by people who have been breathing Jersey air>>: Is that more or less effective than dropping acid? <<just about as fun as haggis>>: And if its not scottish, its CRAP! <<not quite as fun as homonecropyrobestialiacophobia>>: The word or the activity? <<Making something infinitely small is just about the same as bringing it to zero>>: I meant, why were you thinking about making something small? <<It is one of the mysteries of the universe>>: Somehow, it doesn't rank up there with "are we alone?" and "why are we here?". <<For something that doesn't exist, it seems to pop up quite often>>: Good engineers don't have egos. Great ones do. <<Bow chicka bow? Or did you want more chicka bow bow?>>: I think she was just waiting for us to break into a kareokee (sp?) of "The Boxer" by Simon & Garfunkel. What?

Okay folks, that's all for tonight. See ya'll tomorrow.

"Know what separates the winners from the losers?" "Yeah, the score."
-Gene Hackman and Keanu Reeves, The Replacements

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Lake Donner, CA, US of A
Sunday, July 15, 2001 10:49:39 PM
IP: 206.170.171.72

Gside: <Why question his questioning of your latin questions?>
Whats with you questioning my questioning of his questioning of my latin questions? ;)

Ya know... we could keep this going forever!

Those phrases were ones I used to know in Latin but I forgot. And when 'Let the buyer beware' came up in a conversation, well, I wanted to remember.
Fire storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Sunday, July 15, 2001 10:09:56 PM
IP: 206.25.115.145

Imzadi> <<As usual, we drove the last stretch of the journey listening to Neil Young's "Harvest Moon" CD>>: My father has a mix tape that we bring on every trip. starts off rather ecclectic (Dead, Dylan, Come Dancing, Bette Davis Eyes, Rockford files, then resolves into just about all the Band B sides (actually taped off the vinyl)).
<<helped me develop an appreciation for Neil Young>>: He does sound like a girl, though.
<<Whore>>: Only if I get paid.
<<you don't have *THESE* hands (and once you land that woman, you'll wish you did)>>: I do believe that sax takes comparable desterity to strings, yet requires no caluses. Plus, you get lip and tongue exercise.
<<Can you FedEx me some?>>: It loses a certain je ne sais quoi, if taken away from its natural habitat.
<<My nice side?>>: Entirely possible, or your more geeky side (The urge to work with mad scientists is strong withing you).
<<Ooh, you win>>: **gloating ensues**
<<Liar>>: True.
<>: So I can search the web. I didn't know it off the top ofmy head (or any other part of my head before that).
<<Indulge me>>:They were most likely influenced by Boston's city planners, that is the cows who tramped the local cow paths. And the more recent additions were made by people who have been breathing Jersey air.
<<More fun than "discombobulated"?>>: Yeah, but just about as fun as haggis, and not quite as fun as homonecropyrobestialiacophobia.
<<Why?>>: Making something infinitely small is just about the same as bringing it to zero.
<<Norway pretty much sucks. -Warpmind de Inzane, TGS Comment Room>>: "Look! Lakewood, Lakewood. That's my hometown! That place sucks." -Mike Brown, watching the weather.

Fire Storm> <<Why all the questions about my latin questions?>>: Why question his questioning of your latin questions?

Siofra> <<Why is this clock always off?>>: It is one of the mysteries of the universe.

Niamhgold> <<I'll try not to miss anyone>>: You didn't deny my suspicion of your costume.
<<what the heck do you *legitimately* call a woman who does that?>>: The general gender neutral way to say it is polygamist.
<<You and your ego...>>: For something that doesn't exist, it seems to pop up quite often.
<<you always tend to beat me at riddle answers>>: O don't think there's been enough examples to make a conclusion about that.
<<Looks to Josh and Gside to begin the music>>: Bow chicka bow? Or did you want more chicka bow bow?

Spacebabie> <<Did anyone see the Chronical last night?>>: Yo.

Shadowrider> <<we weren't allowed to carry with us anything biological>>: Shame. Maybe if you find an insane local butcher.
<>: Makes some sense, depending on how self similar your local cuisine is.

DPH> <<Does anyone have an idea of how to fix the small problem and keep the imposter out?>>: Igmore it, and use some variant. Perhaps dashes instead of underscores.

And since I mentioned it recently, the new mp3 is Peter Gabriel's Solsbury Hill.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, July 15, 2001 10:07:10 PM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Josh> I'm not going to the Gathering next year. And the picture of my ass....how about no.
SOROW
Sunday, July 15, 2001 08:19:28 PM
IP: a020-0441.dll2.splitrock.net

Hello everybody.
Hey, I have a major question for the TGS staff. Can you guys please email me!?? I've been trying to reach you guys for days now, but my dad's email SUCKS!!!!! ATT is FURIOUSLY TERRIBLE!!!! I can't send emails out, they only get sent back. I'm so mad I could scream!! It just hasn't been a good day for me!!
Anyway, I don't mean to come in here and yell at people. It's just that nothing is going right. And my dad's email sucks - totally! So, could either Jessica Entis, Stephen or Todd please send me an email? I would like to rejoin the staff if you'd take me back. But it's been hell trying to get a hold of you.
Well . . . . enough blasted rambling, I've probably done my fair share today. Hopefully, things will improve.
Later, guys.
Shauntell Holm - [mariadestine@worldnet.att.net]
Layton, Utah, USA
Sunday, July 15, 2001 06:19:52 PM
IP: 35.westvalleycity-01rh15rt-ut.dial-access.att.net

I'm very mad. I started to try to use AOL Instant Messenger and discovered someone has the user id of "dph of rules", which is my normal id everywhere. Unfortunately, that's not me because I checked the password against the list of passwords I have used. Not one of them is my password. BTW, I do possess dph_of_rules@usa.com, dph_of_rules@usa.net, dph_of_rules@hotmail.com, dph_of_rules@excite.com, dph_of_rules@yahoo.com. Any questions about why I'm very upset about me not getting my standard id with AOL Instant Messenger? I have possessed dph_of_rules@yahoo.com for over 3 years. so help me, if I have an imposter of me, I'll complain big time. There is only 1 dph_of_rules and that bettter be me. Does anyone have an idea of how to fix the small problem and keep the imposter out?

I'm so mad about that. I better leave before I continue ranting.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, July 15, 2001 01:11:06 PM
IP: max1-57.cwy.cei.net

It's already time to leave for me. Not for so long, though...I think I am going to be home again next weekend, and possibly for some more days. Until then...

Thanks to everyone welcomed me back!

Niamhgold:> Yes, I got your mail, and thanks a lot for it. I really liked the E-card, and what you wrote in it. It means a lot to me, you know it, and be sure I feel the same for you. About my trip...yes, it was funny, and tiring too. I am sorry we had no time to chat this weekend...we'll remedy next time! Take care of yourself...and, please, say hello for me to Wolfie and Dreamie.

Josh:><<...Winterwolf and Niamhgold...>> Hey...I've never imagined it, but I think it could be an interesting possibility...a pity we'll never find out...;)
<<...the corner of first and insane...>> ????!

Gside:> <<...some kielbasa...>> Unluckily, not...we weren't allowed to carry with us anything biological. Anyway, I tried it...quite tasty, I must say...but, I think I'd need some time to get used to it...

See you all soon!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Sunday, July 15, 2001 10:31:13 AM
IP: h213-20-154.mi2.albacom.net

I hate being flooded. We had so much rain yesterday that if you stood in the street the water would come to your shins and their were waves...in other prats of town the water was deep enough to swim in.

Emmys(sigh) why am I not surprised. Er,West Wing, Sopranos and two others that get nominated EVERY year and of course Buffy and other good shows gets looked over. I am a bit surpised that none of the new shows got nominated. Wheres Ed, Boston Public? Not a single new show. It appears that if a show wants to get nominated one of the regualar nomines has to get cancelled first.
I got a better idea...Cancel the voting academy and get some new voters, perferably some that actually watches TV

Speaking of news shows...Did anyone see the Chronical last night?

Vixen's strange appetite>>Appears she has a tolerance for spicy foods. Three of my cats tried some of the hot and spicey pork rinds. Two of them went straight to the water dish. Vixen stayed for more. Everytime bring out the bag she is the only one tries to steal on out of my hand.

I found something that might give you a chuckle. It's Hamlet direced by everyones favorite Chimera::Chibi Zelgadis enters with a small plastic skull:
"Alas I knew him well,"

"I'm expecting a phone call, you might scare it away."<<<---Try and Guess...You'll never get it.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Sunday, July 15, 2001 09:59:22 AM
IP: proxy.ord.netsetter.com

Egh, sorry...the "Adios all" should naturally be at the _end_ of my post :)
Niamhgold
Sunday, July 15, 2001 07:48:40 AM
IP: lac-flex197.ncia.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hey, all! Glad I can finally make a full post (I'll try not to miss anyone ;)). Work went well this week, ending our big "project", which outta do good for my portfolio. On the weather side of things...jeesh, we installed a new pool a week and a half ago and ever since then the sun won't show its lovely face :( Ah, well, what can I do? ;)

Saw The Spirits Within last night, and I thought it was pretty d@mn good :) Of course, that could have been because I was the only girl in the audience and the place was packed with surprisingly decent-looking males... ("Hi, my name is Eric, what's yours?" ;)) I saw to heck with what the critics said...they said the plot was too "complicated". Yeah, that's because they were expecting some sort of comic-bookish predictable thing. But Final Fantasy games are known for their many plot threads, their technical terminology, so I don't really see the deviation. As George Carlin says, "as a rule, the general public is pretty d@mn stupid" ;)

Sorow: Ouchie mama about those teeth...I was lucky with mine; didn't swell, and I even had corn pops the morning after! I agree with Ramen noodles; additionally, yogurt, ice cream, chocolate pudding, mashed potatoes (yum), and tomato soup (unless the citric acid stings...). Just don't sip from a straw! ;)

Siofra: Yes, come to gathering next year! I'd be glad to see your costuming skills :) I'm still trying to decide (a) if I want to participate in the contest and (b) exactly who/what I should be ;) <We'll be fine!> Yep, yep, defintely with a positive attitude! Man...I remember being so bored when I was "out" (technically, I could have gone back to work the next day, but I decided to take the week off ;)) that I made about half of my scratchboard pictures to date...it was probably the codeine ;)

Josh: And not posting soley for you this time, either...;) In light of your several near-death experiences, let me just say that I'm glad to see you got to Lake Donner all right! Now time for your much-deserved two weeks of sleeping, eating, and...well, whatever the heck else you want to do ;) <BMW SUV> Yes, interesting concept, isn't it? (Well, not so much interesting as "eerie") <Capitol offense> Yep, I'll agree to that! Friday the 13th was definitely a classic Friday the 13th; almost got rear-ended twice (I swear the guy in back of me was genetically engineered to have guppy eyes as opposed to eyes on the _front_ of his face ;)), and cut off more times than my fingers and toes would count. Almost as bad as the DC-Baltimore trips! ;) <Any cute chicks wanna visit?> Heh, sure, how can I resist when you use sweet talk like that? >;) And I'm going to buy a summer place in Scotland...yeah, I know it's weird... <Why all the latin questions?> Because the english language is regressing. <Landed squarely on my...shoulder> Ouch. That's why learning to snowboard is so much easier (land on you behind all the time). However, in your case ("115 lbs soaking wet"), I can see how that actually might be more painful ;) <Strategically placed dinners, cars, and gifts work better> Well, she's actually right; strategically placed compliments work pretty darn well (well, for some, I guess). Of course, the success of the matter all depends where you strategically place the latter three items, of course >;) Heh. <She just does it very quickly, in and out, to post to one person. Easy to miss> Um...nevermind. I'll just say this: I am not a Mormon (or Morwoman...what the heck do you *legitimately* call a woman who does that? In my experience, only Mormon _men_ are allowed that! I guess I'll have to leaf through my posts from last April, 'cuz I remember this conversation coming up once before :o)) <Got me out of packing> No problem...anything for a friend. Oops. I'm gonna regret that comment, now, aren't I? ;)

Gside: <Why the $!@# didn't I see that before? Probably just wanted to flaunt my leet skills.> You and your ego... ;) Ah, don't worry, you always tend to beat me at riddle answers :)

Mecord: Welcome back! Woo-hoo, the elf is back :)

:o) <----- clown >:o} <-------- Stephen King's "It"

Shadowrider: And welcome back! Did you get my e-mail? :) Glad your trip to Poland was great, I was hoping that you had a wonderful time :) <Special revelation at the Gathering> I suppose there were several :) <Got my postcards?> Not yet, but mail to the US is pretty slow... :) Check ya later and enjoy your time home! **Hugs**

Allaine: **Waves and hugs** Hey, there, it _has_ been a while! :)

Adios, all!

Jan: I'm hoping the reunion went well, and I'm glad you get to spend time with your son! <He'd be Eva Gabor> LOL; naw, he'll get used to it ;)

Stephen: Aww, I'm so glad that you got to spend time with your girlfriend, and it sounds like you knew how to treat her to a good time! ;) <It was an...intense moment> Looks to Josh and Gside to begin the music ;)

Niamhgold
Sunday, July 15, 2001 07:45:40 AM
IP: lac-flex197.ncia.net

Why is this clock always off?
10:49 am
Siofra
Sunday, July 15, 2001 07:16:55 AM
IP: ac98e499.ipt.aol.com

Woo, slow morning. Well, off to the farm ;)
Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Michigan
Sunday, July 15, 2001 07:15:52 AM
IP: ac98e499.ipt.aol.com

Jackal> Consider it accepted... :-)
Aris Katsaris
Sunday, July 15, 2001 02:17:24 AM
IP: athe530-p139.otenet.gr

Imzadi: <Why all the latin questions?>
Why all the questions about my latin questions? ;)
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, July 14, 2001 09:36:21 PM
IP: 206.25.115.145

Hopefully...

NEIN!
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Saturday, July 14, 2001 09:14:31 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

Eighth!!
Galvatron
Saturday, July 14, 2001 09:10:30 PM
IP: 205.213.142.183

SOROW: Try Ramen noodles all cut up...you can kind of scoop the little bits into your mouth and then swallow them. The broth tastes really good too. Also, the sooner you can get off of the pain medication, the better you will feel overall...I stopped taking the Tylenol with Codiene after the third day and felt much better.

Skiing: Been doing it since I was three years old. My family goes about every other weekend during the winter, and for a week at a time over winter break and spring break (weather permitting). Even being at college this year, I still got to go quite a bit. Even took my boyfriend who had only been once before, and he did awesome. I got him hooked now too :)

On a totally random note, if you haven't seen the movie 'Snatch', go rent it right now. Best movie I've seen all year.

Okay, so I am really jealous of all of you that made it to the gathering. Hopefully, I'll be able to save my money and convince my parents that I won't die if I go on a road trip next year (I will be 20 after all). If I do make it, I am making a kick-a$$ costume... I showed my boyfriend a picture of Dreamie's costume from last year and he said that I would look really hot in something like that :) He really liked my elf costume at Halloween, but he said it kind of scared him because the ears looked a little too natural on me. I don't know if I put the link up in here before or not, but the link below is me with a friend at Halloween this year.

Okay, I think I'm going to bed now, going to visit my aunt and uncle at their farm tomorrow and maybe do a little trail riding while I'm at it.
Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Michigan
Saturday, July 14, 2001 08:39:29 PM
IP: ac82fd7f.ipt.aol.com

SEX!

Uh, I mean six!

YES! We're here!

We woke up at about 6AM, showered, threw the last of the luggage in/on the truck, and then we were off...

...to Starbucks. Let me tell you something, there are few things funnier than a yuppy family like mine grabbing Starbucks and then driving off in a BMW SUV that has a bike rack attached and luggaged tied to a roof rack. It just doesn't look right (well, "BMW SUV" doesn't look right either, but that's a story for another time).

Okay after Starbucks we were really off. 101 East to 405 North of 5 North to 80 East, and there we were. Took us about 3.5 hours to get to Santa Nella (aka the home of Split Pea Andersen's, lunch), then three hours from there to Truckee (the nearest "town" to Lake Donner). As usual, we drove the last stretch of the journey listening to Neil Young's "Harvest Moon" CD, which my dad has made into tradition for our family. None of us can listen to any song off that CD without thinking of this place. Its really quite cool. It even helped me develop an appreciation for Neil Young, which if you've read my website is...odd.

The drive itself was uneventful, except for the few times we got cut off and almost died. There seemed to be an awful lot of @$$holes leaving LA at 630 this morning...and they were all trying to get in front of us. At one point my dad slammed on the breaks so hard that the lid flew off my brother's latte (yeah, like the little guy needs coffee)...and latte went all over the brand new BMW. If it were MY car, that would be a capital (sp?) offense (both the cutting me off AND the spilling of coffee). When we weren't almost dying, I found creative ways to get comfortable and listen to music loudly. I even worked on my fic a little (of COURSE I brought my laptop).

Once we got up here, we had to check in at the real estate office and go grocery shopping. The house we rented is amazing. Its brand new, has a deck, barbeque, 2 stories, 3 bedrooms (so I get my own...any cute chicks wanna visit?), 2 bathrooms, fireplace, REALLY comfortable couches, a TV, the works. I love it. Only thing that peeves me is that some family of rediculously lucky bastards actually OWNS this vacation home. One of these days...I will own a house up here, one that isn't my primary residence.

After grocery shopping, moving stuff around the house, and unpacking, we're relaxing for a little bit before our dinner reservation at 7. I managed to get online via calling card and acquire some local access numbers for both my pacbell service and my dad's AOL service (his ancient laptop is being shipped up so he can do some work while he's up here...god I wish he didn't have to do that. This is supposed to be a vacation, after all.

Anyway, we're fixing to have a very relaxing two weeks. I plan on sleeping in the next few mornings, quite frankly this whole "work" thing gets me up way to early.

My mom says hi to Wolf, Dreamie, Aaron, and Mara. Alex says hi too.

Okay, time for replies! If they seem a little...off, its because I'm ingesting alcohol right now.

FS: <<It's almost impossible for me to find some decent bran muffins around here>>: Its turbo lax time. <<whats latin for "Let the buyer beware"?>>: Why all the latin questions?

Niamhgold: <<** Niamhgold enters briefly **>>: Only this time, its not just to post to me ;-)

Stephen: <<The reason for my being on cloud-nine was that I spent the entire day yesterday with my girlfriend Heather>>: Glad you had fun on your date.

Jannie: <<safe journey and I hope that you have a fabulous time>>: Thanks for the well wishes. <<went down the bunny slope face first>>: Impressive. <<*smack* right in the back of the head!>>: I went off this jump one time and landed squarely...on my shoulder. <<Only 170 days till the Year 2002>>: Yeah...and?

Gside: <<Just here for the latin>>: Whore.

Daniel Johnson: <<caveat lector>>: Beware of cannibals?

Spike: Congrats for your Bro! Wish him luck.

Sorow: <>: Would you mind horribly if we used another word? <>: Oh well. See you at G2k2 then. <>: Gathering's over...what would you do? <<I'm sure you're a real sweetheart, you just don't want to admit it>>: Um...I'm sure that Aaron, Mara, Dreamie, Wolf, Greg, my best friend Mike, my family, or ANY of my ex girlfriends would be happy to clear your mind of THAT misunderstanding. <<keep complimenting pretty girls>>: So you do think you're pretty. <<it really will get you far>>: Actually, no. I've been complimenting pretty girls for 20 years, and it gets me nowhere...with the pretty girls. If I want to get far, I find that strategically placed dinners, gifts, and cars work better than compliments. <<Believe it or not, I don't get many of them>>: I don't believe it. If that's true, I guess you'll be coming to more Gatherings. <<I'm glad I wasn't a disappointment to you>>: I'm sure it was keeping you up nights. <<Sorry you couldn't get a picture of my ass>>: I tried, really I did. Perhaps next year. Like I told SJ, every picture I took of you (all candid, as I didn't speak to you the whole trip) came out awful (photographer fault, not subject fault). <>: I have so many responses to that, but instead I'll just whistle innocently. (that was for you, SJ).

DeRat: All the south park eps?! What format? Are they on a server with a decent connection? Because I have 60+ gigs of MP3's (about 15,000 or so, I think) and a DSL connection, I'd LOVE to trade with you.

DPH: <<Have fun on vacation>>: Thanks! <<We'll promise to change things completely here while you're wrong>>: Oh, well since I'm never wrong, I guess everything's gonna stay the same ;-) <<Now, if I can only get over this hump about keeping $3000 in my bank balance>>: heh, I know the feeling. <<Supposedly, my plant is the most profitable division of Molex right now>>: What exactly is your job? <<You know if I keep taking my time with this post it could be one of the longest top 10 on record>>: Longest of yours perhaps, but every one of mine is longer than your posts. <<I'm just thinking about meeting Daniel Johnson for the 1st time as we have more in common than either of us probably knows>>: Okay, you room with him. I'll room with Sorow... ;-)

Mecord: <<Now if school would just roll over and die>>: We'd ALL be happier people. <<WE ARE FINALLY ON-LINE!>>: There is nothing like the joy of "discovering" an internet connection.

Jaden: <<Sometimes Korea feels like a prison sentence>>: I'd rather just be in LA...or Donner, where I am now.

JackaL: <>: Will you shut up now? <>: First time for everything. <<expected and lame>>: I'll have to try harder then. Oh wait, I just won't bother.

Gside: <<Sorry, I don't know any strings>>: Hah, hah, you don't have *THESE* hands (and once you land that woman, you'll wish you did). <<even after you cheated in ethics>>: I can't win if someone else is cheating. So I have to stop that. <<yes, but that is a completely technical term>>: Ah, got it. <<Come to Jersey, you'll find out>>: Can you FedEx me some? <>: My nice side? <>: Yeah, you could. But I'm not one for insulting myself. <<740 bio, 790 and 780 for chem and phys, not sure which>>: Ooh, you win. 760 physics, 780 writing. <<I'll try harder next time>>: Liar. <<Shawn Colvin>>: WOW! I AM impressed. <<You really don't want to know>>: Indulge me. <<Trekkies>>: I think often times they overlap. So no one. <<Roughage always helps>>: Ewww. <<it's a fun word>>: More fun than "discombobulated"? <>: Very well, we'll let it slide this time. <>: Why? <<go gnaw a tree>>: Heh. <<Why the $!@# didn't I see that before?>>: She just does it very quickly, in and out, to post to one person. Easy to miss. <<I'm sure that's something you could rectify at any time>>: You're absolutely right.

Hey Sorow, in light of Gside's suggestion I think you should post one. ;-)

Okay folks, well after a really tasty mexican dinner in Old Truckee, my family is watching American President while I post. That's about all for tonight, see you guys tomorrow!.

Norway pretty much sucks.
-Warpmind de Inzane, TGS Comment Room

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [josh@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Saturday, July 14, 2001 08:35:04 PM
IP: ppp-207-215-84-87.dialup.scrm01.pacbell.net

Top 10?
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, July 14, 2001 08:03:21 PM
IP: max1-35.cwy.cei.net

Mecord> <<I, the married elf! Happily at that>>: Just keep telling yourself that.

So there wasn't much.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, July 14, 2001 07:50:11 PM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

<<::breaks into wild guitar riff of porn music::>>: **Backs up on bari sax** Sorry, I don't know any strings.
<<If they don't produce the card, I rip the proxy in half>>: I admire your dedication. And even after you cheated in ethics.
<<Been hanging out with Ned Flanders?>>: Well, yes, but that is a completely technical term.
<<Now THAT would make for an interesting episode>>: You're telling me?
<<Now its starting to sound like a plague...>>: Oh, but it is, but strangely, it also heals all wounds.
<<What's fat air?>>: Come to Jersey, you'll find out.
<<Not part of me. You are me>>: I am that part of your brain you don't admit to.
<<GROAN>>: Yes, so true. But you were asking for it.
<<that sets up a whole string of insults I didn't want to make or unleash>>: I think I could take them.
<<Near perfect physics score too>>: Been there done that. 740 bio, 790 and 780 for chem and phys, not sure which.
<<You're supposed to say>>: I'll try harder next time.
<<Points to anyone who knows what "the corner of first and insane" comes from>>: Shawn Colvin. "You know, I wasn't born/I was spat out at a wall/And nobody even knew my name/The sun hatched me out/Cradle and all/At the corner of First and Insane"
<<what part of "traffic circle" is confusing to your city planners?>>: You really don't want to know.
<<who's more obsessive than us?>>: Trekkies.
<<How would that help?>>: Roughage always helps. That, and it's a fun word.
<<Don't ever make that mistake again, or the society will
revoke your ability to consider yourself an engineer...if you're lucky>>: I caught it quickly. And I might have been thinking infinately small at the same time, and that also got me confused.

Fire Storm> <<It's almost impossible for me to find some decent bran muffins around here>>: Eh, go gnaw a tree.

Niamhgold> <<Niamhgold enters briefly>>: Why the $!@# didn't I see that before? Probably just wanted to flaunt my leet skills.

SOROW> <<Sorry you couldn't get a picture of my ass>>: I'm sure that's something you could rectify at any time.

4th. Will finish soon.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, July 14, 2001 07:47:47 PM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

WoOoOo! Second!!!
Siofra
Saturday, July 14, 2001 07:43:59 PM
IP: ac82fd7f.ipt.aol.com

WoOoOo! Second!!!
Siofra
Saturday, July 14, 2001 07:43:57 PM
IP: ac82fd7f.ipt.aol.com

��MMmm nasty tongue lashing!! Feels soo GOOD!!��

Very nice sex slaves!
Ok, I got a response from the sex slave thing, I'm happy....

Thanks for the extra welcome backs!!

Delurk urself Aris......

I offer you an apology, I don't you expect to take it, but I feel you should know that it is offered. I don't remember a "damnit" situation, and sounds like it was sumthin mad silly. So I guess I'm sayin I wanna drop the beef man, I don't even remember what started it....

<<You can use many words to describe me, most of which aren't very nice, but "poor" is not one of them.>>
Which is exactly why I used that word, all of my posts, have and will alwayz be, dark humor, get over it! HAHAAAA
Oh and great retaliation, I don't think I've ever been called a "schmuck". But the whole testicles thing..., really now, expected and lame.

<<Sometimes Korea feels like a prison sentence>>
Oh, ...................... nevermind.

Not much rambling from the J man tonight, other than if you play lottery, such as pick 3 or scratch off tix..., GET HELP!! YOU REALIZE WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY THAT IS?!?!
Now with that money you save by not buying lottery tix, go get urself sum bacardi, coke, and coc and mellow out! .............................. bitch! *L*
JackaL
Ga, Korea
Saturday, July 14, 2001 07:42:37 PM
IP: 216.104.228.119

SWEET! First!
Fire Storm - [Night-Flame@usa.net]
Saturday, July 14, 2001 07:38:28 PM
IP: 206.25.115.145