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Hello everyone. Life has been good to me. I hope all has been going well. It has for me. I leave for Germany on August 8th, yet I know only that I report to the 64th AG Replacement at Frankfurt. From there, I wish I knew. If anyone can find a website that gives me my assignemnt in Germany please let me know.

I have even more good news. I told Imzadi about someoen very special to me. How many of you remember Heather? Now, I know more people should be raising their hands :p

Well, it has been under wraps, since we were reluctant to tell Robby, but Heather and I have been seeing each other since late June, when I got stationed at Georgia. In fact, I have been at her house since Monday morning. While I may lose some friends over this relationship, it pales to how much I love her and that I have loved her for some time, though I was afraid to say anything. Now, I enter a new life and a new adventure. I hope to amke teh msot out of all the changes in my life.

Xanthar> But you saw a lot of countryside and sheep I bet :)

Target> I happen to like that Dayton-Hudosn owned discount store myself :p

Christine> Well, if you get Crzy, she'd keep Tim to busy to see you :)

I saw some sphinxes and they look cute. I woudl love it fi I could have a kitten where I'm stationed.

Sevarius Jr> I haven't met Lain yet, either. I was going to, but then I got stationed to Germany.

As for your plans with Lain, Gunjack might beat you to them :)

Spacebabie> ::hugs:: I'm glad they nipped that in the bud. My grandfather had prostate cancer at 75 and my grandmother told everyone he was in the hospital to get circumcised, since prostate cancer wasn't something people her age talked about.

Planet of the Apes> It was good, and I liked the ending though I wanted Heston in the film.

SJ> I highly recommend you see Soylent Green and The Omega Man. Thye fetaure Charleton Heston in that great darker anti-hero role. I'll bring the tapes to G2002 for a Heston film festival :) Plus you can meet Heather (not to be confused with Sobotka's girlfirend).

I am also 24 today.

**hobbels up to Bob Dole as he gives GB soem viagra**

I'm off to birthday lunch.

Bye Bye
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Warner Robins, Georgia
Saturday, August 4, 2001 12:48:38 PM
IP: ac954791.ipt.aol.com

Josh > sure thing; it'd be helpful, though, if you could toss me an e-mail to remind me as AvMists is still a few weeks away.

Future Tense Lex vs. Shadowcat > I may be remembering wrong, especially since the majority of my X-Men knowledge came from when I was hooked on the comics back in the early 80's, but doesn't her phasing power have a bad effect on things electronic? That wouldn't bode well for him, I'd think ; )

Battlebots > the day I've been waiting for has finally arrived! They're making toys! An outfit named Road Champs has just released a line of "BattleChains," keychains with replicas of some of the big-name bots on them. They've only got 4 so far, according to the back of the package. We now own Biohazard (with a pull-cord that makes his arm extend) and Overkill (pull cord brings the blade up and down). I'm looking at their website right now ... ooh! Deadblow! Back later! Clickie if you wanna see.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, August 4, 2001 12:23:43 PM
IP: 18-071.075.popsite.net

Josh: Uh, I wasn't in a good mood just because "I just got to spend a whole day with my boyfriend, awww he is so sweet I'm such a sap"... And, I think this was previously said by someone else in here, I'm a two-bow kind of girl ;-)
(btw, we've been together for over a year and a half, so this isn't me just being all excited about a second date or anything :-) I hate it when girls get like that...)
Gambit/Brooklyn--Yeah, but Brooklyn would certainly give him a run for his money with his laser gun...
distracted by shiny things--LOL!
Mystique can't morph into anything heavier than what she originally weighs, just bigger. Size changes, mass does not. (Oh, god. I just reavealed my underlying geekiness)

Dangit, that's all I have time for right now. Back later!
Siofra - [siofra7]
Michigan
Saturday, August 4, 2001 11:38:26 AM
IP: pm497-44.dialip.mich.net

*jumps up and down waving at josh wildly*

OH OH OH !!!!!!!!!!! GUESS WHOS *NOT* WORKING SUNDAY AND *DOESNT* HAVE CLASS ON MONDAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! OH OH PICK ME EMEMEMEMEMEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
(im excited, cant you tell?!)
so.. yeah.. im at work all day till 10pm ish so i wont be able to call you... but ill email you my work number (call after 5:30 if yer gonna... cos my boss goes home then.. ; )) and YAY HANGING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!
(personally, id rather go to toronto cos london is kinda booooooooooooring.. and toronto has CARABANA if im not mistaken and ive AAAAAAAAAALWAYYYYYYYS wanted to go to carabana!!!!!!!!! WAHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! IM SOOOOOOOOOO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (as if you couldnt tell..)

sj>> well if you git yer bum up here, you can meet me ; ) yer welcome here, even if you ARE a jerk.. you know that : )

lynati>> i didnt have computer access yesterday (cos some of us DONT have access at home yaknow.. ; P) and when i checked today, i just had mail from josh and the TGS list : (

MUST RUN AWAY SO AS NOT TO BE LATE FOR WORK AND GET FIRED AND OTHER SUCH BAD THINGS!!!!!!!!!!

looooooooove,

lain "its the full moon... lucky josh......" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Saturday, August 4, 2001 11:32:24 AM
IP: 198.96.83.74

kathy > :: applauds, especially the part about apologizing ::

Josh > I disagree... common sense is not and should not be by definition absent from teenage hijinks. The point is to use a little intelligence when having your fun, so that you stay safe and once in a while you can get away with it without driving your parents into an early grave.

Fight Club stuff > Why does everyone always pick on Angela and peg her as the only one who couldn't hold her own? If she ever just let loose like Demona, I think a lot of people would be really surprised. After all, anyone who can swing a tree trunk as easily as Mark McGwire lobbing a home run is definitely not a "98 pound weakling."

As a side note... I never quite understood how Magneto manages to affect ALL metal (as in the comment made about Demona's gold jewelry), when it's only iron that has magnetic properties under normal conditions. You could have the most powerful electromagnet in the world, and it'd still do you no good if someone dropped a ton of gold ingots on your head. :P
Patrick Toman
Saturday, August 4, 2001 11:00:42 AM
IP: dsl081-009-210.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net

*In*

okay, you know you have issues when it's 4 in the morning, you can't sleep, and you're so bored you start plucking your eyebrows AS A SOURCE OF ENTERTAIMENT.

On the positive side, at least I'm awake for this afternoons class. *much rejoicing*

Hey, have you ever gone through your unfinished works and seen a scene that you know you're going to have to finish sometime, but then read through your newer version and discover that you've already finished it and done a fairly kick-@$$ job at it at that?
Gods, I love it when that happens.

Not much new here. Had a spiffy talk with Aaron the other night. I hope he made it to New York alright.
*waves at the general direction of NY and Aaron and Mara*

lain:...I DID email you back, right? I can't seem to remember whether or not I was kicked off the computer before I had a chance to write out a reply.

*Out*
Lynati "Okay, time to quote the Bare-Naked Ladies" Kshudra - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Saturday, August 4, 2001 09:14:40 AM
IP: 207.226.219.119

SEVARIUS JR. - You wrote:

<<Gargoyle Fight Club: In death, the soldiers of Project: Mayhem have a name. Repeat after me: His name was Frank Paur…..his name was Frank Paur…. >>

I hope that that doesn't mean that Frank Paur has just passed on (although if he had, I'm sure that there'd be more direct acknowledgements of it in the comment rooms).

Actually, while I can certainly see the appeal of Demona vs. Magneto (given their thematic similarities), I still find myself imagining a fight between Demona and Mystique (probably based on each one angrily accusing the other of being a rip-off; let's face it, they have the same coloring, both can masquerade as human though in different ways, both have problems relating to their offspring).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, August 4, 2001 06:58:50 AM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup168.dialsprint.net

HELLO FROM CANADA!!!

Well folks, after waking up at the butt-crack of dawn (a.k.a. 7 AM) and throwing my computer (and other goodies) into my backpack, I drove down to Santa Monica with my mom. She was there for a meeting at one of the major advertising firms down there. Ya know, for someone without a job, she goes to an awful lot of meetings. In fact, she goes to more meetings than anyone I know who DOES have a job.

While mom was at the meeting, I sat in a Coffee Bean down the street with my laptop and played with the 8.356 million programs I downloaded for OS X. Most of them were just nifty one-function utilities, like a password/login locker program that encrypts your passwords or a new type of address book (the Address Book application that ships with OS X is woefully inadequate...but then again it's free...but then again so is Palm Desktop...but then again Palm Desktop isn't carbonized...but then again blah blah blah).

I discovered the graphics/creative reputation that comes with owning a Mac and displaying it in public when random people (women, of course) started asking me if I did graphics professionally. I guess with the fledgeling goatee I'm growing, the blond highlights in my hair, and a mac laptop, I really look like a typical creative professional or graphics artist. I think I can deal with the stereotype, though personally I think I look more like a French terrorist - lets hope customs doesn't think the same thing or I'll be stuck in Canada-US limbo for the rest of my life.

My mom dropped me of at LAX at 1030, two hours before take-off. I was so excited. The last time I traveled by myself for more than 45 minutes by plane was when I was 7, and I've certainly never been out of the country by myself. I imagine this is what my friend Catie felt like when she flew to Europe to randomly tool around with her friend without any sort of itinerary at all. I was able to check in really quickly, and all the people at Air Canada were very friendly. I went into a store and read magazines, expecting to be thrown out for not buying anything. They didn't, so I went through a complete issue of Maxim.

For men who read Maxim or women who read Cosmo: have you ever read any sex tips in those magazines that you DIDN'T already know? It just seems like Maxim tells guys things they already know. Although its female equivalent, Cosmo...::shudder::...girls, you should NEVER do the things they suggest in there...they're scary and or don't work at all.

The plane ride was blissfully uneventful, right up to the point where we made an emergency belly landing in San Fransisco when the rightmost engine caught fire.

Just kidding.

I spent the whole plane ride on my laptop, listening to CD's, working on my fic, and writing part of this post. Its actually the first time I've added anything to my fic in months, and while it isn't much yet, it should grow.

The in-flight movie was "Driven" with Sylvester Stallone, where he plays a race car driver. This movie had no good lines and only ONE cute chick, but it did have SWEET racing scenes. Nothing like a good car chase to get the testosterone flowing. For lunch I ate the airline food, some sort of beef and potatos thing that was supposedly "stew".

I really wanted to pull the phone out of the seat in front of me and use it to connect to the internet for just long enough to say "I'M POSTING FROM 37,000 FEET!" and join some sort of mile-high posting club (which would probably just include me) since I'm not a member of the OTHER mile-high club.

Just after flying over London (HI, LAIN! I can see your house from here!) we were informed that we had to hold before we could land, so we were delayed 10 minutes. No biggie.

The cab to my cousin's house was long and quiet and cost me $40CAN...that's what, 12 cents?

My cousin's house is AMAZING. I dunno if any of you Canadians have ever heard of WillmsShier environmental law firm in Toronto, but "Shier" is my cousin. She's married to a geotechnical engineer, so between the two of them they have a pretty decent amount of money...and this house is AMAZING. I said that already. I'm staying on the lowest of 4 levels, where I have a big bed, TV, computer with DSL, and my own bathroom. And no one else is on this floor so it'll be quiet when I'm sleeping. Between my cousin and her husband and all their marriages, there are 5 kids staying here plus me. And each has their own room.

They keep kosher here, so there's seperate dishes for milk and meat. My cousin said that she made a deal with God that if I screw up she doesn't get punished, so we're cool (they're othodox jewish). Its odd that my favorite cousins are a) Canadian and b) Orthodox Jewish, but they're just so cool. The house has amazing art all over the place and borders a huge park and the Toronto city reservoir.

Temperature was a "blazing" 30 degrees C when I landed at 820PM, but nothing a hardened Californian couldn't handle. I love how everything is in metric units over here. As an engineering student, I often find myself thinking about how stupid the US is for being the only dummies on the imperial systme (notice I only make jokes about Canada that are aimed at their money and their accents). Now that I'm here, I find myself constantly doing the conversions to put things into scales I'm used to.

I'll take some pictures of the house, but I doubt I'll be able to post them until I get back because I don't think I can connect to my site on the laptop...we'll see though.

HEY GUESS WHAT? THE DRINKING AGE HERE IN 19!!! Guess how old I am (if you didn't already know)...

On to the replies!

Lady Mystic: <<I've been pretty busy>>: Well don't keep us all in suspense! Tell us what you've been up to! We never hear from you, and I, for one, am curious. What do you even do for a living?

Lain: LOOK WHERE I AM! I'M IN FUNNY-MONEY LAND! Check your email.

Azrael: <<I'm back... at work>>: I know this pain all too well, my friend. <<dsl has been down>>: God, I hate it when that happens. I totally flip out when I can't get online. <<It hasn't worked properly since we got it. Time to cancel, yes? >>: Good luck doing that. If you want to cancel, my advice is to not pay. That'll get them to call you. <<our entire job is communicating proficiently?>>: What kind of tech support job do YOU have? ;-) <<I've heard better grammar from two year olds>>: Ditto. What I really hate, though, is getting calls from people who don't speak English. Like Canadians. <>: And this why I talk to Professors before choosing classes, to see if they speak clearly enough to learn. <<weird calls>>: Do you get paid by the call? <<Why do people call, and wait 30 min. on hold for, tech support, when they don't need tech support>>: Some people are lonely. There's this woman that calls up MacTank all the time just to chat. We charge her $30 every time. She doesn't care, she's just some lonely old lady with a bunch of cats. We're happy to take her money. <<one day I will understand customers>>: Customers are easy to understand if you just start with the simple assumption that they are idiots. Once you agree with this, predicting their behavior becomes much easier. If they were smart, they could make/get whatever it is you sell by themselves.

Shadowrider: <<some things I've been ordered to do>>: I didn't know they could order you to do THOSE things in the Italian Army...then again "Italian Culture" is a euphamism for, um, nevermind. <<things you see happening in the movies>>: You were ordered to eat a donut while your commrades did push-ups?

MorningSong: <<*ONLY* some?>>: Yeah, sadly, some of these people aren't into that stuff. They don't know what they're missing ::brandishes fangs:: <>: Oh, we got plenty of the latter, though not much of the former. <<Why is it i can't see u as a goody 2 shoes?>>: She's got 4 kids, so we KNOW what she's doing behind closed doors.

Kathy: <<Aren't most of those types of coloring supposed to wash out in 7-10 shampoos?>>: Woudln't it be funny if this was one of the brands that didn't? <<If you break those rules then you deserve to get what's coming to you>>: I totally agree. I don't think they should be absolved of punishment, but I do think they should be forgiven. <<enclosed spaces are not necessarily sound proof>>: Hmmm, if I can hear my dad snoring upstairs, I wonder what he can here...<<Common sense seems to be in short supply all around these days>>: The reason its "stupid teenage behavior" is that common sense is absent by definition. <<if this sounds grouchy>>: Not at all. You have every right to complain, you were on staff. <<injury to my back>>: Hope you feel better.

The Queen of Pain: I've been here all of 8 hours and Lain hasn't beaten me yet for making fun of Canada...though that could be because I haven't met her yet. <<prostate cancer>>: SUCK. I hope your dad gets better fast. At least they caught it early. Ya know, its gotta suck having a doctor stick his fingers up your @$$ and then say "you have cancer". Talk about getting raped twice. <<I'm hoping that it will show a certain animate show that comes on a channel that I don't get>>: Write them a letter and ask. That's your best shot. <<Chest, just enjoy my chest while I shill for Pepsi>>: What other reason would there be for tolerating her presence? <<The soda makes me sick>>: Me too, but more because of the way it tastes than its market ploys. Long live Coke! <<Southpark was at its sickest, although very hilarious>>: And I missed most of it because of a f*cking tech support call. <<You live in Texas and your shocked by improper grammer>>: Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, huh? <<Be afraid, be very Afraid...Josh is coming to your neighborhood>>: I wouldn't call a 2-hour drive "neighborhood", but its gotta be pretty scary. But look at it this way. I let ALL OF YOU come to MY neighborhood for Gathering and I didn't call animal control once! ;-) <<Full Metal Jacket>>: Truly the greatest 'nam movie ever made.

Smut-Pandering Bitch-Queen of All Creation: happy? <<it'd take more than a catnip mouse and a feather on a string to satisfy you>>: I dunno, some chicks like feathers. <<Tim and I get little enough sleep as it is>>: Oversharing penalty! <<Avalon Mists>>: Will you post the link to my icons again? I'm updating it with some new stuff.

David G: <<Gargoyles Fight Club>>: Is it run by the Josh/SevJr. split personality team? <<Goliath vs. Cyclops>>: Ooh, Barney vs. the frikkin laser beam. I vote for the laser. <<Demona vs. Magneto>>: Demona, since she's immortal, but Magneto could hold her off if she doesn't take off all her jewlery. Cuz Magneto could just tie her to a wall and...oh, sorry, starting thinking about something else. <<Brooklyn vs. Wolverine>>: Those close would shred the Timedancer. <<Lex vs. Shadowcat>>: Shadowcat, since she only has to phase in to punch little guy. <<Broady vs. Colossus>>: Colossus. Broadway's a wuss. <<Angela vs. Jubilee>>: Angela would get distracted by Jubilee's shiny things. <<Xanatos vs. Sebastian Shaw>>: How about Kingpin? <<Fox vs. Mystique>>: Mystique, hands down. She can morph into big heavy things.

Baldy: <<looking haggard, pale and tormented>>: So, basically, exactly like you looked at G2k1. <<today officially sucked>>: Was it stamped accordingly? <<fever>>: Bummer. Feel better. <<38C I say is too hot>>: I'm more of a B-cup man myself. More than a handful is wasted. <<I"m usually around 36C>>: I still have trouble filling a training bra. <<the mailman>>: bow chika bow? <<someone has used my name and address and ordered me an inflatable doll, COD. A *male* inflatable doll>>: See, that's the kind of thing I'd PROUDLY stamp my name on, so that everyone would know that *I* was playing a joke on you. <>: Death by Barbara Steisand concerts? <<You don't think I can be platonically inclined to inanimate objects>>: Every male I know has a non-platonic relationship with at least ONE inanimate object, usually a car. <<If you are annoyed with your hair, I've got an excellent treatment>>: I wouldn't trust any advice from you on hair care, just like I wouldn't trust a one-armed lion trainer. <<people with Ph.Ds who can't spell 'Ph.D'>>: They become journalism professors. <>: You're cheating on the answering machine with the phone? Isn't that like cheating on one siamese twin with the other? <<always look carefully at what the first factor is>>: I'm thinking of going from 128 MB to 1.1 gig, about 11 times the amount of RAM. <<his US *bills* will be useless>>: Nope. They like American money up here because its WORTH SOMETHING. <>: How heavy could they be?

Sevarius Jr: <<I'm back to keep up my sporadic posting habit>>: You really should post more often. I can't create all the necessary sarcasm to keep this room entertaining. <<Is it just me, or has EVERYONE now officially visited lain, except me>>: Its just you. Daniel Johnson hasn't. And technically, neither have I...yet. <>: Me neither. How could an entire country be that nice? <<They have such strict laws about the transportation of illegal substances>>: Yeah, but they're gonna let me drink. <<have I told you lately how infinitely more complex and interesting you are than me>>: No, you haven't, but thanks. And coming from you that's pretty flattering. Coming from someone who can't spell "infinitely"...that's less flattering. <>: It must be tough being inferior ;-) <<Why don't more men think like we do>>: Some are gay, some are whipped. The rest are bitter. <<Your woman will stay with you only as long as there is a dollar in your wallet>>: You know, I've never gotten so broke that I've actually tested that theory, but I always do wonder. <<Testify!>>: Amen, brotha Sevarius! <<did the bitterness come out for just a second>>: I am not bitter. I am factual. <<good looks can be changed rather quickly by non-elective surgery>>: Or a crowbar. <<they dig us cause we're cut, right>>: Well, me. I dunno about you though, since you're infinitely less complex and interesting than I am. <<just so I could hear the actual punks in the CR (if there are any) scream as loud as they could that "Green Day is not punk!">>: GREEN DAY IS NOT PUNK! Actually, I'm not "punk" either, but people often call me a "punk". <<a really big Gwen Stefani fan>>: Gwen and all her fans should be shot. Hard. Twice. <>: Do you proofread your posts before you post them? If you do, does that mean you write them in Word or some other text editor first? <<what Crzy was attempting to do was insult me>>: And instead managed to make herself look like a much bigger fool than I ever did. <<thus, I am infuriated>>: You should have been laughing. <<Aren't I worth at least that much>>: Um, no. Neither is the rest of the CR. Its just too much effort to type into this tiny box and then proofread, unless you type in another application and check it there, then paste. Of course, I have pretty good grammar and spelling, so that's easy for me to say. If I sucked at English, I might reconsider. <>: LOL. As it is, I'd like to give Lain's dad a lecture on the finer points of fatherhood. Granted, I'm a colossal jerk and its been decided that I should never breed, but I'd STILL make a better dad than that guy. <>: Next thing we know she'll be wearing birkenstocks and burning American flags in protest of rich people. <<"Better you than me.">>: While you say that, the car in front of you stops short and you rear-end them. Smooth move, a-hole. <<that answering machine was asking for it>>: Yeah, SJ didn't date-rape it! <>: I'm gonna try to leave here with the deed to Toronto. <>: Whoa. Busty boy. <>: Too bad baldness is carried on the X chromosome (yet ANOTHER thing men can blame women for) which comes from mommy. So check your mom's father. <<Perhaps I'll grow a mullet>>: No alter-ego of mine will grow a mullet! <<is it wrong for me to be counting the days until they turn 18>>: 1055, right? It was in this month's issue of Maxim. <<Who agrees with me?>>: I do! <<everyone finally realized how good and influential that group (and that album) really were>>: Influential I'll give you, but I can't agree on "good". Their music was repetitive and boring, and Cobain is a f*cking whiner. I'd have done better on a duet with Coyote. <<Uncle Kracker>>: My mom liked their current single and bought the CD, not realizing what "kracker" meant. She was shocked to discover that the whole album was RAP. <<he has tattoos---yet he's a pussy! Isn't that fascinating>>: LOL. Two words for you: Mark McGrath. <<Rock isn't dead, it just hit it's head on something hard and has become brain damaged>>: Where, pray tell, is punk then? <<Insert banana eating joke here>>: Only if she can throat it. Ya know, I don't know a single woman that can do that. <<In death, the soldiers of Project: Mayhem have a name>>: In death, they are resurrected Star Trek characters. <<Nikolai Volkoff or Nikita Koloff>>: Rocky? <<having slumber parties together…..mmmm…..I'm sorry, what were you saying?>>: Sok, I got distracted thinking about what I could do to Demona with all that jewlery if I had Magneto's powers ;-) <>: LOL. I'd pay to see that. <<One is a badass Gargoyle beast. The other is a shameful marketing ploy>>: Today on...CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH! <<For the X-Files TOTALLY UNNECESSARY 9th season>>: IMO, they were ALL unnecessary, for the single reason that he never revealed ANYTHING. <<Give us what we want, Carter.>>: If he'd done that, X-files would have only been 2 seasons long. <<Somewhere in Hell, Satan is snowboarding>>: I hear the 9th circle is nice this time of year. <<When I make my way to Hollywood, one of these days, I promise to beat everyone in the town with the Originality Stick>>: And then make a movie that rips off the Matrix, right?

Siofra: <<Was just dropped off at home by my boyfriend>>: Bow chika bow? <<Needless to say, I'm in a great mood and I hope everyone enjoyed their day as much as I did!>>: That's it, I've been sap-ified. I'm gonna have to leave, which I will do as soon as I finish this post. <<I'd like to see Brooklyn go up against my favorite Cajun>>: Gambit? Definitely a win with the exploding thingies. <<I'm 36C-28-36>>: Nice. And I'm sure SJ is jealous. <>: That's because you ARE one. You won't find a guy whose single that will argue, though. <<he isn't after my money anyway>>: I've seen your pictures, he's after your body! ;-) <<not all of us are after your money or your car>>: What do you do when you can't stand the rich girls because they remind you of the girls you grew up with (who you hate) and you're afraid that the less wealthy girls are after your wallet? <>: I would do it if I could get away with it. The problem is that I hate having to ask for money, so some sort of mooching relationship wouldn't work for me. I'm too independent. Now, if I could swoop in, embezzle the money, and disappear...I'm there. Yes, I am a slimeball.

Fire Storm: You live! <<The simple anwser is only three words long>>: This song's just six words long... <<People with computers are morons>>: Amen to that, brother. <>: When my friend's dad asked my friend to buy him a computer, he immediately went to Apple's website and purchased a $6000 cube/cinema display system. This for a guy that says his house is wired for high speed access yet is still using a modem to connect to AOL (and thinks its broadband speeds). <<They are "Tech Support/Network Admins">>: Ooh, ooh. That's me! Although occasionally I seep into the upper group through a planning fluke. <<These are the morons. They are also the managers>>: Some time later the Dilbert Principle was born.

Alright folks, that's all for tonight. Its 430AM and I'm EXHAUSTED.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
-Samuel Johnson

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Toronto, THE GREAT WHITE NORTH OH MY GOD WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING UP HERE!?, in the land of worthless money
Saturday, August 4, 2001 04:35:02 AM
IP: hse-toronto-ppp255355.sympatico.ca

Azrael: <Why do people call, and wait 30 min. on hold for, tech support>
Oh! This is an easy one! The simple anwser is only three words long!
People
Are
Morons

Or, more accurately:
People with computers are morons.

You see, alot of people buy computers because everyone else has one or they think they need one.
But that dosn't mean they are smart. I have seen people who have the IQ of a brick buy a computer. Actually... those are the people that are the easiest to sell a computer to.

But I am drifting off target.

Computers make 5% of the people smarter. These are the people who can figure out computers. They are called "System Admins"
Then there is another 15% that the computer didn't make them smarter, but they understand computers. They are "Tech Support/Network Admins"
35% of the people with computers out there don't know computers too well, but know it well enough to do what they do on it. These are the "End Users".

The remaining 35% of the people are dangerous. They don't know jack about computers but think they know everything. They are unteachable. They are untrainable. To a point, they are manipulateable.
To do so you have to work on their pride, AKA kissing butt.
These are the morons. They are also the managers! ;)
Fire Storm - [jeremycbcd@usa.net]
Saturday, August 4, 2001 03:57:23 AM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Okay, here's one for y'all. Maybe somebody in the CR can answer this, none of my buddies at work can...

Why do people call, and wait 30 min. on hold for, tech support, when they don't need tech support. I have had three calls in a row were a) caller didn't even have a computer yet, b) problem was already fixed and customer just wanted to thank us (which is cool and all, but still...) or c) problem had been fixed several calls ago, and customer realizes this, but was too afraid to install Office.

One day I will understand customers, and then I'll have gone mad (which is the only way to understand customers anyway...)

Mostly this is just a boredom post, so I'm gonna get back to "not working" which is all we do from midnight to 8a.
Later.
Azrael - [azrael_2099@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX
Saturday, August 4, 2001 02:48:47 AM
IP: 63.170.182.2

Was just dropped off at home by my boyfriend...*sigh* I love (near) full moons, they do cool things to people ;) Needless to say, I'm in a great mood and I hope everyone enjoyed their day as much as I did!

Oooh, fun stuff...
Personally, I'd like to see Brooklyn go up against my favorite Cajun. Dunno who'd win, but it'd be a heck of a fight. I'm sorry, but no cartoon character should be that hot... MadDog, you made that run some of the best times of my life.

Spacebabie: Sorry to hear about your dad. I hope everything turns out well for you and your family.

Warpmind: Oooh, what about me? I'm 36C-28-36...oh, wait. I don't think that's where you were headed with that ;)

SJ: I don't think what you said is fair about women. I make more money than my man, but he isn't after my money anyway ;) Seriously, not all of us are after your money or your car, or whatever you think we are. I know more guys that are like that than women...
Poor spelling: Amen to that. If there are ever any typos in my posts, its because I usually post right before bed or I'm in a hurry and don't take time to double check.

Speaking of, I'm tired and going to bed now. G'night and best of dreams to you all!

Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Michigan
Saturday, August 4, 2001 01:58:46 AM
IP: pm497-20.dialip.mich.net

Well, I'm back to keep up my sporadic posting habit. Worse than cigarettes. I will have to rediscover the art of communication.

Josh: Is it just me, or has EVERYONE now officially visited lain, except me? I'm incredibly jealous. I'd love to meet the little jerk, but frankly, I don't trust those Canadians. They have such strict laws about the transportation of illegal substances across international borders.
BTW, have I told you lately how infinitely more complex and interesting you are than me? I weep tears of bitterness and shame every time I realize that, but that's just life I suppose.
<<If a woman asks you to leave your friends for her, you say "bye, woman!". NEVER leave your friends.>> Exactly! Why don't more men think like we do? If she starts with that "You need to change for me" crap, you RUN towards the door as quickly as possible. Remember, fellow brother: your friends will stick with you through thick and thin. Your woman will stay with you only as long as there is a dollar in your wallet. Testify!….I'm sorry, did the bitterness come out for just a second? I couldn't *possibly* be talking from personal experience. <> I wouldn't say that I'm intimidated…..I guess I feel something else. Like….resentment? But then I remember that good looks can be changed rather quickly by non-elective surgery. Gabba Gabba One of Us! Gabba Gabba One of Us! <<Do Canadian chicks like Americans like European chicks?>> I haven't been with too many European chicks, but just clear this up for me so that I can be sure: they dig us cause we're cut, right?

Jannie: <> I don't know, I think you'd look good in punk attire. Spike the hair, buy some combat boots, wear some camo. Throw in some metal jewelry as well, and blast Green Day from your stereo speakers.
I threw in that last bit just so I could hear the actual punks in the CR (if there are any) scream as loud as they could that "Green Day is not punk!"
If you don't get the pink out, you could use the excuse that you're a really big Gwen Stefani fan. I hope you get that reference.
<<the rest of the "professionals" all have the grammar skills of a 3rd grader.>> So very, very true. Being able to actually put together a coherent, grammatically correct sentence is a dying art. I'd love to go into a rant here, blaming the public school system, but that argument is a little bit played by now.

Poor grammar can be upsetting, but I really dislike poor spelling. The more difficult words in the English language I can understand, but it saddens me when people misspell simple words. For example:
"Sorry SJ, but Josh is *infinately* more interesting and complex than you are."
Now what Crzy was attempting to do was insult me. But she misspelled the word "infinitely", a relatively simple word to spell. And thus, I am infuriated. Damnit, I ask for very little from my fellow man, but what I do demand is that when I am insulted, it is done using correctly spelled words. I don't even ask for grammatically correct insults; but it hurts me more to read an inflammatory remark made towards me, and the individual didn't even have the good grace to run it through the spell check. Aren't I worth at least that much?

Lain: Hey, you jerk! As I told Josh, I'm jealous, cause it seems lately that everyone is paying you a visit, and I haven't been one of them. Which is just wrong. I'd love to meet you in person. Then, just for giggles, I'd love to meet your dad, in which I would inform him of my plan to take you, his precious daughter, and take her into the States so that I could naturalize her as an American citizen and then convert her into an evangelical Christian minister who approves of capital punishment and always votes for Republicans. But I don't think he'd get the joke!
BTW, do you listen to / have you listened to / do you enjoy Nickelback? I've recently "discovered" their music, and I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I'm assuming they're popular in their native Canada, at least as far as rock music is concerned. Then again, I forget what kind of music you enjoy.
<> I think you're acclimating to higher education quite well. <> Wow. Do the bank tellers, like, laugh when they tell you that? <<kinda like when theres a car accident and someones been hurt really badly and all you do is stare.. i find that really disturbing but.. i still find myself doing it..>> I see that as our way, collectively, as a human species, of subconsciously saying, "Better you than me." <<STOP THINKING ABOUT MY ANSWERING MACHINE LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>> Hey, I hate to be the chauvinist here, but that answering machine was asking for it. <<*winks at SJ* you know youre a jerk!!!!! you didnt even say HI to me, you JERK!!!!!! ; )>> *bows* If I am a jerk, milady, you are my queen! ;) <<canada money is worth just as much in canada as US money is worth down there>> WOW. You must not be up to date on your Canadian - U.S. exchange rate, huh? It's insane. Josh is right. Say you buy a paperback book here in the U.S….it'll run you about 6.99. Canadian price? $1,294.63. I'm thinking about draining my bank account and going up north. I think for a couple hundred bucks I could buy the Canadian section of Niagra Falls.

Warpmind: <<Over 38C I say is too hot - especially since I'm usually around 36C-36.5C...) Impressive cup size. I myself have failed to break an A-Cup, even with the hormone treatment. <<someone has used my name and address and ordered me an inflatable doll, COD. A *male* inflatable doll.>> Damnit! Someone has obviously stolen a copy of my list of "Things to do to the Gathering Staff and/or 'Celebrity Guests' at the next Gathering". I thought I had copyrighted that material. Oh well. Just a question, though-would you be upset or flattered if the love doll had been a female? ;) <<If you are annoyed with your hair, I've got an excellent treatment! It's applied with a sharp -VERY sharp - tool specifically designed for use on skin. I'm sure you get the idea.>> You want to know what depression is? Knowing that you're going to lose hair as you grow older. Not the usual hair loss, mind you. I have an older brother, and of course my father, as a point of reference. Unfortunately, a slight, but still annoying, receding hairline is in my future. By the time I'm middle-aged, at least. I'm enjoying my lovely hair while I can. Perhaps I'll grow a mullet, just to shake my fist in defiance against genetics. <<EVERYTHING that comes out of my head isn't CR inappropriate... 90% maybe, but not everything...>> That's a pretty good average. I would say I'm maybe 20 - 80, but only when I'm feeling puritanical.

Spacebabie: <<The MRI came back and my dad has the early stages of prostate cancer.>> My condolences. There was some concern about my own father not to long ago. Here's hoping that your father comes through this all healthy and happy. <<Fox Family chanel has been bought by Disney and now its ABC Family channel.>> Just as long as they keep that Olsen twins show. If they cancel that, I WILL be devastated. BTW, is it wrong for me to be counting the days until they turn 18? Just curious. <<Finally saw Full Metal Jacket the other day.>> Welcome, my dear, into the ranks of the intiated. Well, do you share my sentiment? I say it's the finest Vietnam War comedy ever made. Who agrees with me?

Xanathar: <<Walks into the CR listening to Nirvana's "Nevermind" on his headphones>> Do you get MTV or VH1? And if so, have you seen all of the props that Nirvana has been receiving lately? It's like, everyone finally realized how good and influential that group (and that album) really were. People are putting Kurt Cobain right up on a pedestal with John Lennon and Hendrix. I'm not complaining, but it is rather depressing to look back to just 10 years ago and realize that at that point in time a talented guy like Cobain was ruling the airwaves and now those airwaves are spewing out endless Limp Bizkit songs. Or Kid Rock songs. Or Uncle Kracker songs ("Look kids! Here's a remarkable exhibit to our freak show-Uncle Kracker! See, he has tattoos---yet he's a pussy! Isn't that fascinating?"). Rock isn't dead, it just hit it's head on something hard and has become brain damaged.

David G.: <<I've seen Planet of the Apes. (Short version 3/5 stars. See the Matinee.
Don't pay full price)>> Maybe we can confer. What the FRELL was that ending about? I only see two explanations: 1) As an ill-conceived homage to the first film, or 2) it was an ill-conceived plan to leave the door open for sequels. Either way, it was ill-conceived.
Although Helena Bonham Carter is hot even as an ape. Insert banana eating joke here.

Gargoyle Fight Club: In death, the soldiers of Project: Mayhem have a name. Repeat after me: His name was Frank Paur…..his name was Frank Paur….

Goliath vs. Cyclops: Ah, the battle of the team leaders. Cyclops has faced physically brutish warriors like Goliath before, and defeated them. His mutant powers give him a great weapon to use against Goliath as well. Goliath, however, has fought arrogant pretty boys before as well, namely Xanatos. Alas, Cyclops is NO Xanatos. Cyclops locks horns with Goliath, but becomes distracted when he takes time from the battle to whine that Wolverine is hitting on his wife. Goliath uses this opportunity to implant his fist into Scott "Slim" Summers' nasal cavity. Next round!

Demona vs. Magneto: Both characters are essentially insane…both feel their race is superior….both propose genocide (or in more compassionate moments, slavery)….and both conveniently deny that they have become tyrants on par with the human monsters that they initially overcame (Demona is as much of a villain as Malcolm ever was, and Magneto is maniacal enough to lead the Third Reich). Ultimately, the fight is bound to go in Demona's favor, because even though Magneto has a *much* more impressive physical assault, in the end Demona can't be killed for good (without Macbeth's help), and she could be relentless enough to tire Magneto out and finish him off.

Brooklyn (ANY variation) vs. Wolverine: See Brooklyn meet Wolverine. See Brooklyn make a wisecrack about Wolverine's hairdo. See Wolverine wiping Brooklyn's blood off his claws. YouaretheweakestlinkGOODBYE!

Lexington (Future Tense, Future Imperfect Cyborg version) vs. Shadowcat: Now this is an interesting matchup! Shadowcat, in her latest incarnation in Marvel Comics, was a very impressive fighter, and a brilliant young woman. Mentally, she's probably on par with Lexington. Physically, she might have a slight edge upon Lex, and her phasing ability would help her greatly in a physical confrontation. Ultimately, though, I give this one to Lex. Cause Future Tense Lex was, arguably, the baddest, evilest son of a bitch this side of Thailog that the Clan ever fought (even if he was just a figment of Goliath's imagination). I figure that he'd be smart enough to figure out some way to negate Kitty's powers, and when that's neutralized, he goes for the kill, and has no hesitation in doing so. The X-Men feel they can get away with mercy. Cyborg Lex has no such illusions.

Broadway vs. Colossus: Since Broadway would have to get a shovel to fight Colossus, I'd say Broadway.
Wait, Colossus alive? The Russian wins. Broadway is very strong and physically impressive, but Colossus was just a juggernaut, no pun intended.
Personally, I'd much rather see Broadway fight Nikolai Volkoff or Nikita Koloff. And if there are any of you out there understand that reference, you should be as ashamed of yourself as I am. I forgot all of my quantum physics lessons, but Nikolai Volkoff I remember.

Angela vs. Jubilee: Damn, most of the girls WOULD kick Angela's ass…..I think Angela would beat Jubilee. But why would she want to? I picture the two of them becoming friends, shopping together…..having slumber parties together…..mmmm…..I'm sorry, what were you saying? Something about a fight club?

Xanatos vs. Sebastian Shaw: Wow, good matchup. The battle of the two scheming bastards. I'd have to give this one to Sebastian. David is one tough scheming SOB, and he definitely has a viscious streak to him, but Sebastian was all that AND a sick and perverted dirty old man as well. David would probably come close to beating Sebastian in a war of minds (which would probably be the battle….neither likes to get their hands dirty all that much), have him on the ropes, but Sebastian wins it because he just has no compassion in him at all.

Fox Xanatos vs. Mystique: This is a rather sad match, actually. Fox would probably give Mystique a run for her money in a physical fight, but Mystique is just to damn good of a fighter. That's if she fought fairly at all. Knowing Mystique, she'd probably just morph into David, and fool Fox long enough to make her think she was her husband. Then garrote her from behind or something like that.
Personally, though, I say make this bout a Bra and Panties match, and stick it prominently in the undercard! Get it? "Under" card? Ha ha! I get jokes!

Alex Xanatos vs. Franklin Richards: One is an incredibly powerful fae-human hybrid, capable of impressive displays of magical ability. The other might just be a GOD, or the Marvel universe equivalent of one. Alex is strong, but…..if I'm not mistaken, Franklin once created his own separate REALITY for his parents to exist in after they "died" fighting Onslaught. Even "Uncle Puck" won't be able to help Alex in this one.

Bronx vs. Lockheed: One is a badass Gargoyle beast. The other is a shameful marketing ploy…..I mean, lovable dragon pet. Ironic, isn't it, that it WASN'T Disney that came up with the sickeningly cute mascot this time? Bronx uses Lockheed as a fireplug.

Now, we finish up with some brief **ENTERTAINMENT NEWS***

Those who dislike broken English, beware: Rush Hour 2 opens this weekend. I'll most likely be watching it, and maybe I'll give a review. I loved the first one, and hey, I have to see this one. Two words: Zhang Ziyi.
But in more Jackie related news, it looks as if a Rush Hour 3 is a definite possibility. Don't you love it when sequels are greenlighted BEFORE they know if the film is going to be a hit? Anyway, Jackie is also being enticed to star in the motion picture version of "Soul Calibur", the popular video game. Chan-rific!

Xena, Warrior F.B.I Agent: Well, this is remarkable. For the X-Files TOTALLY UNNECESSARY 9th season, Lucy "Xena" Lawless will become a cast member. Well, more like a returning character, actually, but you get the point. Whoo hoo, aren't I excited! I'd be in heaven, but then I remember that I stopped watching X-Files a good two years ago.
However, if they promise us a few Xena-Scully lesbian scenes, I will renew viewing the program. Give us what we want, Carter.

From the "News just for Mandi Ohlin, if she's reading this" department: The Sci-Fi channel has bought the rights to last season's canceled series "Now and Again". They'll be airing all 22 episodes of the one and only season. Tentative timeslot is Monday through Thursday at 9 p.m. Enjoy!

And finally, from our "Somewhere in Hell, Satan is snowboarding" department…..Knight Rider: The Motion Picture is coming. This is bad enough, but David "I'm more popular in Germany than the Fuhrer" Hasslehoff is insisting that he stars again in the film. David…..look, there's not that much interest in the film. And what little interest exists…..they don't want to see your geriatric ass driving the damn car anymore.
But it's okay, people. This movie will be wonderful. Why? Because, David assures us: "We're talking a little about making it like THE MATRIX, taking it a little bit into the future."
My memory is not so good. Can someone please tell me of a time, long ago, when EVERY MOVIE ON THE PLANET DID NOT TRY AND RIP OFF THE MATRIX?????!!!!????? Jesus Christ! One f@#$ing movie, and every film Hollywood puts out has to be "like the Matrix". When I make my way to Hollywood, one of these days, I promise to beat everyone in the town with the Originality Stick ©.

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Friday, August 3, 2001 10:31:10 PM
IP: 66-44-70-199.s199.tnt9.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

*Warpmind enters, looking haggard, pale and tormented.*
Ladies... gentlemen... today officially sucked. Virtually nothing short of it. First, I overslept, and found out I had a fever that pretty much barred me from going out of the house today. (Over 38C I say is too hot - especially since I'm usually around 36C-36.5C...) And then, today, the mailman dropped by with a package he insisted I pay around 70$ for... I did not recall having ordered anything COD recently, so I demanded to see the declaration slip... someone has used my name and address and ordered me an inflatable doll, COD. A *male* inflatable doll. I'm tellin' you, if I ever learn of the culprit's identity, I will advocate means of execution that most likely are banned in all civilized countries. And quite a few uncivilized ones, as well. Death by a Thousand Sores, combined with blood transfusions and a good ER team sounds like a good start... }:|

Anyway, post time...

Lain: Whaaaat? You don't think I can be platonically inclined to inanimate objects? Methinks I have a reputation that needs some jury-riggin'... };)

Jan: If you are annoyed with your hair, I've got an excellent treatment! It's applied with a sharp - VERY sharp - tool specifically designed for use on skin. I'm sure you get the idea. };) As for the grammar bit, I'm reminded of an exchange from "The Callahan Touch": Doc Webster just provided a Turing test. "There are people with Ph.Ds who couldn't get that right." "There are people with Ph.Ds who can't spell 'Ph.D'." A sad state of affairs, is it not? :/ All these years I've spent working on my lingual skills, and what happens? The value goes down the drain...

Josh: Actually, I don't really think I've taken a good look at Lain's answering machine... it's one of them doohickeys that's built into the phone. So I have seen her phone, but... hm... I'd better shut up on that subject... Oh, and I never went beyond quadrupling my RAM... I went from 4 to 16 on my 486. (I'm considering getting some 256 chips just to spite you, if I can make them fit... THAT would be hilarious...) }:) Remember, when you multiply, always look carefully at what the first factor is.

Spacebabie: Actually, once Josh crosses the border, his US *bills* will be useless (exchange booths'n'stuff excepted), but his coins will generally be accepted. But I do not recommend carrying the entire budget for the trip around in quarters... };)

Well, that's about the end of my post... I wonder if there's an update in my e-mail from that soundtrack guy... Later, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanEBOB - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, August 3, 2001 04:59:59 PM
IP: mp-217-242-194.daxnet.no

Hi ya'll. I'm really bored out of my skull here, so I thought I'd touch off another round of Gargoyles Fight Club. (Of course, to do that, I'm breaking the first rule of Gargoyles Fight Club by talking about it... but I guess typing is different than talking)

Opening Bouts: I decided to be somewhat thematic here. Gargoyles vs. X-characters.

Goliath vs. Cyclops (from the X-men, just in case there was some other Cyclops running around)

Demona vs. Magneto

Brooklyn (post-Timedancer) vs. Wolvirene

Lexington (cyborg) vs. Shadowcat

Broadway vs. Colosus (obviously before he died)

Angela vs. Gee, I don't know, most of the girls would kick her ass, maybe Jubilee?

David Xanatos vs. Sebastian Shaw (who's dead, but so much cooler than his kid could ever hope to be)

Fox Xanatos vs. Mistique

Alex Xanatox vs. Franklin Richards (who was very briefly a member of Generation X)

Bronx vs. Locheede (sp? I should know this)

I can probably come up with some more, but that will do for now.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, August 3, 2001 04:20:36 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Crzy > a very tempting offer, my dear, but for one, you'd be considerably higher upkeep than little Ichabod (i.e., I know full well it'd take more than a catnip mouse and a feather on a string to satisfy you, though admittedly those items might have their place <g>), and for two, Tim and I get little enough sleep as it is. Though I'll have you know, Tim did lobby for one of those horrid hairless cats, the ones that look like naked mole rats minus the choppers. ::shudder::

Josh > yeah, you forgot "Smut-Pandering Bitch-Queen of All Creation" for someone ... who would that be? ; )

Avalon Mists > because I'll be away at DragonCon, I need to bump the deadline up a big -- Friday, August 24th, for fics, pics, poems, filks, articles, and whatnot to be included in the Fall 2001 issue. That way, I can hopefully post it before I go. E-mail submissions to me at christine@sabledrake.com

Jan > you're going pink with the hair? Did I miss something? LOL, why not? The other day, we were shopping for shampoo and Becca was looking at all the hair color sample locks, so I asked if she was planning to dye her hair all sorts of wacky colors when she was a teen. She said, in all seriousness, that we BOTH would do it so our hair would still be the same color. She had her eye on a blinding red that is by no stretch of the imagination auburn. Hopefully, I've got a few years to get used to the idea.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, August 3, 2001 11:14:19 AM
IP: 14-085.075.popsite.net

***A Moment of silence for Pol Anderson***

Bad news...The MRI came back and my dad has the early stages of prostate cancer

The good thing is they caught it early.

In the news of entertainment takeovers: Fox Family chanel has been bought by Disne and now its ABC Family channel. when it was owned by Fox the channel used to show a lot of the cartoons that came on Fox Kids, Now I'm hoping that it will show a certain animate show that comes on a channel that I don't get, Now if I can remember the name of that show...::folds hands and taps pointer fingers together::

Does anyone else get sick when the pass the pepsi displays in the soda isle? I can never touch that stuff again sionce those commercials..The true meaning behind that song((Chest, just enjoy my chest while I shill for Pepsi, ba ba ba ba ba bopa ba ba Bob Dole just took his viagra)) The soda makes me sick.

Speaking of Sick..Southpark was at its sickest, although very hilarious.

Jannie>>>>You live in Texas and your shocked by improper grammer? And I can getaway with teasing Texans. My family on my mother's side mostly resides in the Lone Star State, My mom is a Texan and well...I was born in Irving, but the good will of God moved us to Orlando when I was only 3 weeks old.

Shadowrider>>>Hey how ya doing

Nuriko_Sar>>>Take your time with the icons, some of use toggle betwen 2 or three...usually depends on the mood. Nuriko and Chiriko are cool, my favorites are Tamahome nd Chichiri..Chichiri cause well No da and Tamahome cuase he is easy on the yes, very cool and i LOVE his Japanese Voice. Midorikawa Hikaru rocks!

Lain>>>Be afraid, be very Afraid...Josh is coming to your neighborhood.

Josh>>>Well my dear once you crossed the border, our American money becomes useless.

Finally saw Full Metal Jacket the other day. That one seen will be forev etched into my memory
"Hiiii Joker," Second time I heard that Rolling Stone song recently. The one that plays at the end. The other times I heard it from Twisted Metal Black

Well Gott skidaddle
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, USA
Friday, August 3, 2001 09:46:14 AM
IP: proxy.lga.netsetter.com

Jannie > The hair. On you I think pink would look good. Aren't most of those types of coloring supposed to wash out in 7-10 shampoos?

Josh > There are rules for getting away with stupid teenage behavior. If you break those rules then you deserve to get what's coming to you. Off the top of my head: Construct a plausible cover story. If you intend for someone else to alibi for you tell them. If you get caught dead to rights - lose the 'tude and stop lying, you only make things worse. Remember that enclosed spaces are not necessarily sound proof. People can hear what's going on the other side. Finally, apologize sincerely to the people that you've hurt or caused trouble and do something to regain their trust and esteem. They didn't have whatever passed for your idea of fun - they had to stay up late and worry. There are others but they all involve common sense. Common sense seems to be in short supply all around these days.

Finally, if this sounds grouchy... tough. I've been unable to post anything longer than a line or two for the last few days due to an injury to my back that is driving me nuts. And this particular topic is one that I have a personal interest in.

Cheers.
kathy
Friday, August 3, 2001 09:26:41 AM
IP: client114038.atl.mediaone.net

Josh> *ONLY* some? Gee, and here I was hoping for a wild & crazy time!:P

CrzyD> Why is it i can't see u as a goody 2 shoes?

MorningSong
Friday, August 3, 2001 08:45:56 AM
IP: ns1.paradyne.com

Well, this time I kept promise. I said I was going to be here Friday, and here I am...even a few hours before I was expecting to. Well, I must say, it was damn time something to go all right this week, cause for sure it was not a good one this time. Actually, I could be in troubles, quite serious troubles, for some things I've been ordered to do...it is funny, in some way. I mean, these are things you see happening in the movies, but I did never imagine I could happen to live anything similar...oh, well, anyway. No sadness here!

Gonna have an update of this weeks' CR, real post later I think.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Friday, August 3, 2001 07:30:32 AM
IP: h213-20-170.mi2.albacom.net

Yay! I'm back... at work.

The dsl has been down (as in- not working at all) for about two weeks. It hasn't worked properly since we got it. Time to cancel, yes? If they won't drop me back to the main menu of the phone system every time I call and try to do so. It may be time for leagal action if this continues...

Jan: ["Professionals" and Grammar] You don't have to have good grammer to do anything any more. I work at a tech support office. You know, a place where our entire job is communicating proficiently? I've heard better grammar from two year olds. I'm not kidding (well... maybe a little, but not very much.) What's really sad are the increadible number of people we have who do not speak english fluently. Helping them when they come to me with problems is so bad, I really feel sorry for their customers. When you have to say three times in one call, "Please, I can for to help you ma'am," there is a definate problem.
Azrael - [azrael_2099@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX
Friday, August 3, 2001 05:18:34 AM
IP: 63.170.182.2

Just letting everyone know that I've been pretty busy these past two weeks and haven't had enough time to write replies to posts. I will be busy this weekend so the CR Archive might be updated either as soon as the CR wipe occurs or else later that week. I will try to post an update as soon as possible.

Next week's schedule won't be as hectic for me as the past two weeks have been so I will probably get a chance to respond to people's comments (those directed to me, and especially those concerning TGS CR Info) then. NOTE: I *will* reply to comments directed to me that were made within the past two weeks, so please be patient. Thanks. :)
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Dearborn, MI
Friday, August 3, 2001 04:51:04 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Well, after a very late day at the office (I discovered an error in my work at the end of the day and stayed late to fix it), I finally got a chance to talk to my other boss at MacTank.

Right now he is in the process of altering the call rate so that calls at different times of the day get different amounts of money. Under the current plan, my friend makes 5 times as much as I do working 2/3 the number of hours, because she has a better shift than I do.

This needs to change. I'm not gonna accept less money because I got hired for a different shift, especially when a lower pay rate was not specifically stated in my contract.

So when I get back from Toronto, I will look at his new plan. If I think it'll be worth my time to keep working, I will. If not, I'll come back to the job when it is worth my time. I told him as much. I think he got the message loud and clear.

No matter what I do, though, he'll keep my extension open for me and I can come and work whenever I want. Its kind of nice having a permanent job to go back to. At least this way I know that when I'm unemployed I've got a place to go besides the unemployment office.

In other news, I'm busy packing for Toronto. I'm taking Britney with me, so I'll still be posting and hopefully even available for chat. My flight is at noon tomorrow, but I'll be waking up at 645AM so that I can go with my mom to Santa Monica (she's got a meeting of some sort) and she'll drop me off at the airport after the meeting.

I am SO glad that I don't have to bring an external keyboard with my laptop. Thank you Unitek and Applecare for freely and quickly fixing my keyboard. Do you have any idea how uninteresting conversation is without w,s, and x?

On to the replies!

Baldy: <<I... utterly... hate... that... happy... bird... at... 6AM>>: Shoot it. <<EVERYTHING that comes out of my head isn't CR inappropriate>>: Yeah, Lain. Once, he made a joke about the Swiss Navy. <<I'm entirely platonically-minded about your answering machine>>: Yeah, right. Like ANYONE would believe that after the way you were looking at it. <>: Have you ever done better than that? I want to know how much ram to put in my tower. I'm thinking of multiplying it by a factor of 11...what does one call that? <<Sorry, but YOU just picked on grammar so recently>>: Curses! <<you don't want to know why Lain shouldn't be let near a popsickle>>: Fine, I'll just ask her myself. When I see her. Next week. <<Anton Sevarius, the Mutate Clan, and the AMA>>: Hmmm, interesting.

Xanathar: <<Pays to read the manual sometimes>>: As we say in the tech support business: RTFM! <<or the readme file>>: I don't know if you'll find this funny or not, but readme files for programs in the new Mac OS X are in .rtf format, so clever shareware developers have started renaming their readmes "readme.rtfd". I thought it was pretty funny. <<the person I left it for ended up leaving me>>: You left it FOR someone!? That was a huge mistake. If a woman asks you to leave your friends for her, you say "bye, woman!". NEVER leave your friends. <<it just gets to me sometimes>>: It gets to us all at one point or another. Still, we wait. <>: I don't upgrade boards. I just purchase new machines, since boards are expensive. So I'll just say I know the feeling of purchasing 1.6 gigahertz of g4 altivec-lovin power.

The Wizard: Welcome back to real posting! Does it hurt when you haven't done it in a while? ;-) <<work, I could do without>>: Just try it. <<gotta keep that cash flow coming>>: Amen. <<was able to make some quality sketches>>: Scan and post! <>: Sircam? Sircam...where have I heard that before...hmmm, must be one of those windows thingies. What do they call those? Oh yeah, viruses. <<"The Man">>: Thank you. Don't tell Crzy you call me that. <<thanks ** grins **>>: Welcome. <<Then it's a good thing I'm atypical>>: Depends on how. <<Maybe it's a good thing I couldn't make it out?>>: Never a good thing to be without company. <<the only connecting flight was to LA, which wouldn't have helped, considering you were at Donner>>: Ah, but I've been back from Donner for nearly a week. <<This one time, I think The Wizard will take your advice>>: There will be others. They always come back. <<That _is_ the best way to eat!>>: Um...if you say so... ;-) <<here's hoping that the unlikely happens and they have the stock>>: Thanks for your blessing! Because of you, they did in fact have the part! <<Seriously. I'm not making a joke>>: Problem with being sarcastic all the time is that no one believes you when you're not. <<Do you have a link yet?>>: I'll upload them tonight. <>: Probably because they aren't there. <<Save for a select few items--and I mean a select few--all animal print is evil>>: POINT! Though I confess I'm curious...which items ARE acceptable? <<The blabber?>>: That'll teach her to wear leopard-print underwear...and the reason I hate animal print so much is because I dated a girl a couple years ago who was obsessed with the stuff. <<The dog ain't so bad, either>>: Dog? <<if you ever want to play the game, and wanna learn, I'd be happy to help>>: Does that ever sound like a pickup line. <<Probably because Dreamie came back to Winterwolf>>: I would think, given the line of sight, that it would only get hot somewhere over Lynati-ville. <<Ur, no comment?>>: Smart woman.

Morningsong: Welcome. Only some of us bite.

Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson: <<can't let you have ALL the fun>>: Heh, why not? <<Josh is infinately more interesting and complex>>: My last girlfriend thought she had me all figured out, like she was soooo brilliant...till I dumped her.

Lain: <<a funny thing happened the other day>>: Was it on the way to the forum? <<wondered if they were ALLOWED to drive tanks through campus>>: Would you have stopped them if they weren't? <<why are they in the course calendar?>>: So you can plan your entire college career in one semester. <<pull the other one, its got bells>>: I'll have to remember that when you start jingling as we walk through TO. <<the bank says i dont have that 60 odd$ i should have>>: Why? <<"aboot" isnt insulting at all>>: No, but its funny as hell. <<nor have i ever heard a canadian say that>>: Really? Never!? Cuz my cousin says "aboot" all the time. She says "mountain" funny too. <<you know about computer things>>: That's what they tell me. <<tell me about coding languages?>>: Lets start with terminology. We don't call them "coding languages". We call them "programming languages". The programs we write consist of lines of "code" and when we write programs we are "coding" or "programming". Now that we've got that straight, that is a completely loaded question. Different languages are better for different things. For example, most web scripting (anything automatic that happens on a website, whether its submitting your email address to a database or spitting out a pop-up window) is probably gonna be HTML or Perl. For scientific applications (mathematical analysis, modelling of systems), I've used MATLAB, though there are others. Then there's different types of languages, like object oriented languages (which would take me so long to explain that the CR would break). If you're really interested we can talk when I get up north. Why the sudden interest? <<it might be a dumb question so if it is, just laugh at me and ill shut up>>: There are no stupid questions, just stupid people. <>: Ah, I remember the good old days of DOS. I used to be quite handy with it. Now that I'm using OS X on a mac, I've got reasons to learn about the command line again...wonder if I'll actually do it though. <<one of them is even me>>: Not only that but supposedly I'm one of your favorite guys in CR. Now THAT is impressive.

Saki: <<thanks thats a bit far from where I live in AZ but I'll try>>: Um, what are you talking about? <<website I can go to find more info about it?>>: Website for what?

Jan: <<the rest of the "professionals" all have the grammar skills of a 3rd grader>>: Which is why they're not "professional" teachers. <>: Ain't that a lot of double negatives? ;-) <<"ain't" is in the dictionary>>: So is "doh", I believe. <<feeling much cooler these days>>: Coolness is a state of mind, not a state of being ;-) <<I'm receiving $600)>>: Ditto. <<It's an *advance* on next year's returns>>: I don't think so. I'm pretty sure its a refund for the tax cut. Since the taxes were cut, we are owed that money by the government IN ADDITION to last year's tax return. Money from tax returns IS NOT taxable income...how ironic would THAT be? <<plans to do it in August>>: I never plan to do anything in August. Anywhere I'd be in August is hot.

DPH: <<twelve hours later only 2 other posts follow it>>: I don't think that's scary at all. From your late at night to 12 hours later, people are doing two things: sleeping and working. Not much time in there for posting. <>: Don't say that! <<Are the letters for your passwords contained in your posts?>>: What if they aren't? Maybe my passwords are just line noise and there are punctuation marks that don't even show up in the CR.

Okay folks I gotta get some sleep. I have to be up early to fly to the land of worthless money.

If I can't abuse power, why would I want it?
-Wally, "The 2000 Dilbert Calendar" (sic)

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Friday, August 3, 2001 02:26:14 AM
IP: ppp-206-170-218-210.nhwd02.pacbell.net

It's scary when I can post late at night and roughly twelve hours later only 2 other posts follow it. Then 12 hours after that, still only 5 other posts were added.

I think the CR is s l o w i n g d o w n.

Imzadi - Are the letters for your passwords contained in your posts? If not, you can always type the entire alphabet in your post twice just to make sure.

As many of you are aware, when I took thespark.com's personality test with different email addresses, totally different results came for each email address. I am going to let one of them loose to practice one thing that I learned from Gargoyles: working behind the scenes to effect change is much funnier (and less risky) than doing it yourself. No comment about what type of change I am going to implement or where that change will be implemented. If all goes according to plan, well, people will know after the fact.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Friday, August 3, 2001 01:47:05 AM
IP: max1-66.cwy.cei.net

Firestorm> thanks for the suggestion on the shampoo... unfortunately it didn't work - nor did the Prell. I still have hot pink highlights. O.o You know, if this wasn't so funny, I'd be pissed. I think it's funny! However, now I'm going to have to go to the salon and see if they can strip it out or I'm going to have to end up dying my hair - which I do NOT want to do, but I really do need to rid myself from the pink hair. My mom hasn't seen it yet and I am hoping to avoid that particular confrontation! *chuckles*

At vacation Bible school this week we've had "professionals" come in for demonstrations. The theme is safety so we've had firemen, ambulance EMT's, a police officer, and the DARE officer (who also has the drug & search and rescue dog)... with the expection of the DARE officer - the rest of the "professionals" all have the grammar skills of a 3rd grader. It took everything that I had to restrain myself from correcting their speech during their presentations. I have heard more double negatives in sentences to last me a life time. I've also heard "ain't", "ain't got no", and a mulitude of other improper usage of the engligh language. Yes, I'm aware that "ain't" is in the dictionary - but so are a lot of other words that aren't appropriate to use.
A question was asked, "what does it require to be a fireman" and I mumbled, "apparently NOT good grammar skills"
I'm sorry, but when you are addressing young children - at least use the best possible grammar skills. They are listening and learning from these people.
ok, ok... I'll put the teacher side of me away now... ;)

I have installed 2 window air conditioning units and am feeling much cooler these days :) None of us have been ill since I've put these in and even the dogs are back to normal with their playing and activities. I have no idea of what I'm going to do with these 2 units when I move out. I may give them to my dad to put in his rental properties and then write them off as a tax deduction ;)

Speaking of taxes... this "rebate" that some are receiving... (I'm receiving $600)! I read some place that it's not really a rebate. It's an *advance* on next year's returns. If you don't receive money back, then it's applied as income. If you do receive money back, the amount you receive now will be deducted from that amount of next year's refund. Has anyone else heard this? I'll find out more when I take the paperwork for everything else to the accountant - but I was curious about it now.

I'm tired... the next time VBS plans to do it in August, I hope they take into consideration the HEAT and humidity when planning the Games.
Jan
Friday, August 3, 2001 12:06:42 AM
IP: modem17-74.mo-net.com

Space babie>>>>> ya it is no da? But my Favs are Nuriko and Chiriko. Their both so cool and kinda fooled me at the starting.

Lain>>> hmm sounds like fun but I'll take your word on it ^_^

Josh>>>> thanks thats a bit far from where I live in AZ but I'll try. Do you also know either the website I can go to find more info about it?

Well everyone I'm trying out all these new pics to see which one I like sorry to maybe confuse you.

Sayonnara, dear friends.

Saki Asameeya ^_~
Saki Asameeya aka Nuriko_Sar - [Ksmiley-TSroberts@woldrnet.att.com]
Glendale, AZ, USA
Thursday, August 2, 2001 09:34:29 PM
IP: 77.phoenix-02rh16rt-az.dial-access.att.net

[Walks in, holding a bottle of IBC Root Beer and a tall glass... pausing before the Tea Table of Peace, he pours a tall one and places a picture of a prominent author on the table, surrounded in dark-gray roses. Lifting the drink, he salutes and takes a drink...]

A moment of silence for science fiction author Pol Anderson, who passed away today at his home in Orinda, CA from complications due to prostate cancer. One of the greats of fiction writing, he was a former Grandmaster of the SFWA and multiple Nebula and Hugo award winner.

He was 74.

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Thursday, August 2, 2001 08:00:29 PM
IP: 65342hfc61.tampabay.rr.com

a funny thing happened the other day.. id just finished my post and was comming home. i had just switched my diskman to "profit in peace" and was approaching the road when all of a sudden this rather large, green tank drove by.. i kinda blinked, and idly wondered if they were ALLOWED to drive tanks through campus.. and then i noticed how BOUNCY tanks are when they drive over bumps.. and then it disappeared into the distance and i, shaking my head, continued home listening to the song...

heya, morningsong! welcome to the insanity : D

Niamhgold>> combine the two interests?? that would mean going back and interacting with the music faculty and.. uh... they hate me and the feeling is kinda mutual so i think i will stay away. actually, i think i am beginning to loathe the entire school and the vast majority of stuck up snots that attend but hey! *grins and bears it* uh.. i actually WANT to study criminology but thats not even OFFERED at the school.

speaking of annoying things about western, i was looking in the course calendar and got kinda excited about some of the courses they were listing. then i went and checked the lecture timetable and found that NONE of the courses i was interested in were actually OFFERED. why are they in the course calendar??? i wish i knew. maybe to get everyone hopeful and make them think this is actually a good school? only to cut them down when theyve already secured your money? jerks. so i can take "drawing and painting" next year. yee haw. (i just took drawing and painting this summer, plus i did TWO art classes in grade 12 AND two art classes in OAC (grade 13) and now i get to take it AGAIN?! what if im SICK of drawing and painting and i want to check out the graphic design stuff they are lying about offering? gah.
(and i havent even gotten into the part where i rant about my ultra feminist prof yet today... maybe ill save up some juicy ones for another day..)

warps>> platonic relationship with my answering machine?? *scoff* yeah... riiiiiiiiiiiight... pull the other one, its got bells..

josh>> : ( im sorry about having to work.. and having no money. the bank says i dont have that 60 odd$ i should have, rather i have 1.84$ im not lying. i have 1.84$ in my bank account. i was pissed.
uh.. "aboot" isnt insulting at all... cos i dont say "aboot" or "oot" or "oot and aboot in a hooseboot".. nor have i ever heard a canadian say that so.. its just kinda funny. im sure i would say "aboot" just for spite, though. : )
hey.. you know about computer things... tell me about coding languages? is there any one that has more nuances and wider range of stuff than any other? (or is that a dumb question.. it might be a dumb question so if it is, just laugh at me and ill shut up..) i learned that microsoft DOS thingie yesterday and it was fun..
"Amazingly, despite my attitudes, I do have a number of friends even in the CR." ... and one of them is even me : D

kahreen> ooooooooh... well, the version i have (if its the same song, which i imagine it is) is by some canadian group.. so its probably.. is it called a "cover" when one group does a song that was written by another group? thanks : )

anyway, im off to the post office to pick up a "package" (ooooooooooooooooooh aaaaaaaaaaaah...)

love,
lain "i am corruptable by name" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Thursday, August 2, 2001 01:41:07 PM
IP: 198.96.83.59

Jen -

<<ditch the cats and just keep me as a pet>>: Kinky.

<<Josh is infinately more interesting and complex than you are>>: I'm sorry, but that looked suspiciously like a compliment. Was it? If so, thanks! If not, well then !@#$ you I like the way I am. ;-)

<<See what Josh wrote... double it for me>>: Okay now that is DEFINITELY a compliment.

<<Never ONCE did I keep my parents up worrying about me or did the police ever have to get involved>>: Did you even GO to high school? ;-) <<is there something wrong with that??>>: If *I* think you have no life...it can't be good.
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
North Hollywood, CA, US of A
Thursday, August 2, 2001 01:39:05 PM
IP: adsl-63-194-25-242.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

Christine - AAH! Things with FUR!! EEEEEEVIL!!! I think you should ditch the cats and just keep me as a pet. :)

SJ - "they've given Crzy a chance to, ironically, talk about the shortcomings of others." Hey, can't let you have ALL the fun. :P

"if Demona tells Josh that he's full of himself, does that give solid, once-and-for-all proof that he and I might in fact really be the same person?" Sorry SJ, but Josh is infinately more interesting and complex than you are. You are definately NOT the same person.

Robby - See what Josh wrote... double it for me.

Josh - (thread from another room) Never ONCE did I keep my parents up worrying about me or did the police ever have to get involved. NEVER! ... and yes... I was a goody two shoes with no life... is there something wrong with that?? ;)
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Thursday, August 2, 2001 01:04:25 PM
IP: 1cust11.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

*enters* Hmm not been here b4,*finds quiet place to sit back and watch the ppl interact*
MorningSong
Thursday, August 2, 2001 12:44:36 PM
IP: ns1.paradyne.com

*Warpmind peeks in.*
Heya again! Just popping in before I go grab some chow...
Had a weird creativity demon today... it could be fun with a plot involving a combination of: Anton Sevarius, the Mutate Clan, and the AMA... properly handled, it could be hilarious... anyone want to give that one a shot, be my guest. :)

Xanathar: *Sticks out tongue* The one time I don't bother reading the game manual, I miss out on something like that... *Grumble* Oh, and I haven't even *seen* Serious Sam yet. Sorry. By the way, omething occured to me about the Druid... if it were possible to set a specific attack order for the summoned ravens... first the skeletal magi, then the skeletal archers and so on... would that be establishing a new pecking order? };)

That's about it for now... later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, August 2, 2001 08:00:30 AM
IP: garibaldi.ti.telenor.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hey! Good to be back (in here, at least); work, I could do without, but gotta keep that cash flow coming ;) My vacation went pretty well, since I got in some much-needed relaxation, was able to make some quality sketches, and, of course, the rides and nightly fireworks were great. I loved seeing all the character designs in MGM :)

And I come back to work to find that my boss's laptop has the Sircam virus...ah, oh well, them's the break.

On to replies!

Lain: <well... i am going into my third year of this school but its only my first year in art but im going into my second year of art> Well, it's cool that you get to try out different things...music and art go hand-in-hand. Maybe you oculd combine the two interests by being a graphic designer, at which juncture you could either design CDs, or work with websites/production companies that use music and art for advertising, etc. BTW, if you have to take art because of your dad, what are you really interested in pursuing? :)

"The Man": <Niamhgold: The Wizard> Heh, thanks ** grins **. <I'm weeded.> Revenge of the nerds? <Typical female. ;-)> Then it's a good thing I'm atypical ;) <Much to my dismay, I assure you.> **Sigh** As it is for us all ;) <God I pity those people.> Maybe it's a good thing I couldn't make it out? And the only connecting flight was to LA, which wouldn't have helped, considering you were at Donner. Heh, I know...I think I tried that one on you already. <Oh, and as for Wolf's asking if you need to be trimmed, I'll just say a big *NO COMMENT* ;-)> This one time, I think The Wizard will take your advice ;) <Then again if the email convo I've been having with Niamhgold was moved to CR, my posts would be twice as long.> My email said that the last email was three pages, give-or-take the headers, not counting any old message material ;) <Dominatrices train at dental schools.> LOL. Them, and history professors ;) <WITHOUT MY LITTLE BROTHER> That _is_ the best way to eat! <If not...eh, I guess I wait for the tower either way, unless they magically have the replacement keyboard in stock (which is HIGHLY unlikely).> Ugh, the waiting game...well, here's hoping that the unlikely happens and they have the stock...y'know, the 9th circle IS already frozen ;) <All in good time, my friend, all in good time> Wow, that was a nice comment. Seriously. I'm not making a joke ;) <Oh, if you like scenery pics, I am your man. Those are usually the only kinds of pictures I take.> Cool. I love 'em, but I can never seem to draw them (atmospheric blueing, blah-blah ;)). Do you have a link yet? (I couldn't seem to find them on your site). <<<Especially people who have really difficult email names>>: Mine?> Naw, people with names like fluff_astrid...oh, wait, that's another one of mine. Nevermind ;) <Sewing is not a geek thing> Definitely not. It's the trait of a home-ecker ;) <Animal print underwear...evil...> Save for a select few items--and I mean a select few--all animal print is evil. The blabber? <But there's only so much room up there...most of its filled with important stuff like how humpback whales can hear each other hundreds of miles away.> Or how the most poisonous jellyfish in Australia is called chironex flecken, or that they're actually 13 signs in the zodiac. <<>: Ditto. That is absolutely the best part in the movie.> Return point! The dog ain't so bad, either ;) <Don't you have your own digital camera?> At the time, nope. I mooch off my parents's. <<<"Everybody wants to rule the world." That's my call song>>: POINT! No way that's mine too!> It's just too damn addictive ;) <guess its conceivable that I could get into it if I was bored and had someone around to teach me...> Well, if you ever want to play the game, and wanna learn, I'd be happy to help. <Is it just me or is it getting hot in the CR?> Probably because Dreamie came back to Winterwolf ;)

Xanathar: <Keemo got rid of it the first time but it keeps coming back apparently.> Kemo sucks, real bad. According to my mom, both my grandparents tried it and it didn't work. Kemo is a give-or-take treatment; it either gets rid of the cancer or worsens it (or causes a different kind). Urg.

Shadowrider: <Oh, BTW, I see there's a discussion about my birthday...caouldn't get how it started, anyway, I officially say it here: my birthday is in June 10th.> Thanks! Now I have it in my address book (along with your CORRECT mailing address ;)). Oh, and the thread started when I was trying to figure out the extent of my random memory...which I guess isn't _that_ sharp ;)

Jaden: <<<and, thus, the plot of Gargoyles ;)>> True, but in Gargoyles the reasons weren't because of time travel.> True, except in the cases of MIA, Vows, and the TGS Timedancer storyline ;)

Winterwolf: <Sounds like a freak accident. Do you need to be trimmed now?> Ur, no comment? But cute, nonetheless ;) **Hugs** How have you been doing, pal? Seems you're more calm with your love around ;) Oh...and you've got the same question on Patrick's articulated wings as I did! ;)

Adios!
Niamhgold
Thursday, August 2, 2001 07:35:11 AM
IP: lac-flex65.ncia.net

*Walks into the CR listening to Nirvana's "Nevermind" on his headphones*

Hi all!!

Warpmind:<<and the Assassin doesn't need keys? *Blinks* Then why the HFIL have I been carrying over two dozen keys around for the past two quests??? *Frown* Dosh garn it...>>Pays to read the manual sometimes. ;) (or the readme file),I love the class specific items to,like the preserved head for the Necromancer. ;)BTW Warps,Firestorm,did you ever play Serious Sam?,it's like old-school Doom but with a kick-ass 3d engine(I swear mowing down 30 enemies at once with a machine gun is a regular thing in this game,it's great stress relief! :)

Josh:<<I've discovered that nothing is too personal to talk about here. These guys are a great support group. If they can help, they will.>>I know that all to well :)(I still think that it was a mistake for me to leave this place last year,I missed it,and the person I left it for ended up leaving me),but I talked to a very dear friend about it the other night and I feel a lot better now.<<All in due time, my friend. All in due time.>>Yeah I know,it just gets to me sometimes,thanks dude.:)<<Ya know that feeling when you double your RAM? No? WELL I DO! NEENER NEENER NEENER!>>Heh,yep and I also know how it feels to slot in an Accer motherboard with an Athlon 1.23 gig proccessor(it belongs to a friend of mine) >;)

Spacebabie:<<Well my dad is going into surgery today. He had a prostate exam and it turns out there was a bacterial infection. The goodnews is he didn't have any cancer.>>That's good to hear,my sisters boyfriend's mother has been suffering from cancer for three years,Keemo got rid of it the first time but it keeps coming back apparently.

Christine:Sorry I didn't say this sooner but Get well soon.

I hope I haven't missed anybody,take care all.

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Thursday, August 2, 2001 07:03:38 AM
IP: cpe-61-9-128-142.vic.bigpond.net.au

*Warpmind stumbles in, with bags under his eyes and what resembles a crimson halo.*
I... utterly... hate... that... happy... bird... at... 6AM... *Whimper* On... to... post... as... soon... as... I... get... caffeine... *Struggles with small bottle, succeeds, and swallows two pink tablets*

Ahhh... better soon...

Lain: EVERYTHING that comes out of my head isn't CR inappropriate... 90% maybe, but not everything... and I'm entirely platonically-minded about your answering machine. Honest.

Christine: Glad you're better. And too bad about the idea; good luck on figuring out *something*. :)

Josh: I don't know the feeling you get when you double your RAM... However, I DO know the feeling of QUADRUPLING it. NEENER!!! }:) As for execution payment... why would you pay your assassin's well? Is it some kind of wishing well? And won't your assassin be upset that way? (Sorry, but YOU just picked on grammar so recently...) };) And believe me, you don't want to know why Lain shouldn't be let near a popsickle. End of discussion. It's for your own good.

That ends my post... gotta do some library work again, then... cancel a book... order more of those book-tags...
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, August 2, 2001 05:25:06 AM
IP: garibaldi.ti.telenor.net

::walks into CR with a big ear-to-ear grin::

Ya know that feeling when you double your RAM? No? WELL I DO! NEENER NEENER NEENER!

I woke up at around 830 today and took my laptop in around 915. I walked to the service desk, woke my laptop up from sleep mode, and showed them the problem. The service guy diagnosed it exactly as I did. The keyboard needed to be replaced (der!). The keyboard was $85, and the installation was $30. The good news was that they had the keyboard in stock and preformed the replacement right there in about 5 minutes.

The better news was that the keyboard and installation were covered by my Applecare warranty and they were FREE! So I got a new keyboard for free! YAY!

After a long day at work (updating the bills of material for these products to incorporate the new parts is a real hassle), where I got my new RAM upgrades, I went BACK to the service shop and had them install the RAM. I am now moving along with 384 instead of a measly 192 (which, 2 years ago, was quite a bit of RAM) and very happy about it. No more virtual memory, at least not for a while.

Worked MacTank tonight. Still trying to re-negotiate my non-paying contract. I think my boss is putting it off in the hopes that I'll forget about it or keep working the current rate. What he doesn't know is that I'll quit at the end of the summer if I haven't heard from him.

As per their requests, I will be replacing the following people with psuedonyms when posting.

Warpmind: Baldy
Coyote: Sappy
Dreamie: A Square
Spacebabie: The Queen of Pain
Niamhgold: the Wizard

Did I forget anyone?

Anyway, onto the replies!

Saki: <<Next Gathering>>: Virginia Beach, VA, August something-or-other. <<great...moth>>: I've got a great butterfly, does that count?

Jan: <<Do NOT apply a temporary hair dye of ANY color if you already have highlights on your hair>>: Thank you. I will remember that. <>: Sweet. <<it’s 87 degrees at 2:15 a.m>>: Wow. That's impressive. <<My dad has been a Missouri slumlord for years>>: LOL. <<Enough is enough>>: The first hour of no AC would have got me b*tching, but I'm a natural-born complainer. <<it’s called growing up and taking responsibility… it’s a bitch, huh?>>: Yes, yes it is. I hate it. <<apparently you can if you were there for over two hours!>>: They will be billed for my time. <<Almost wants to make ya’ a vegetarian, huh?>>: If my burgers smelled like that it would, but otherwise no. <<Could it possibly be that you just don’t like the person?>>: Yes, but only if you actually spend enough time around the person to get offended by them. <<Why are looks a factor?>>: Welcome to the real world. Looks are ALWAYS a factor. <<I’m talking about people in general>>: And so am I. That's what makes it a blanket statement. <>: I wasn't saying that EVERYONE is intimidated by people that are better looking. I'm not either. Of course, I'm not intimidated by anyone. <<when someone thinks that they are beautiful and therefore should be treated as such>>: Such people should be shot. <>: Thank you. <>: Smack the offender across the face with a glove? <<That’s almost as good as having a paid holiday each week>>: I think its better, because he gets to stick it Uncle Sam. <>: I am SO never going up against you, even when I DO become a lawyer. <<Not unless it was agreed by both parties. Bummer>>: My apartment has no AC and no heater, and space heaters are grounds for eviction. How much does THAT bite?

The Queen of Pain: <<The goodnews is he didn't have any cancer>>: That is very good news. Wish him luck for us with the surgery or a fast recovery if he's out already. <<Spacebabie's new name is the Queen of Pain!>>: You asked for it. <<24 years without a broken bone or a single stitch and still counting>>: Impressive. I've got almost 20 without a broken bone, but I have had some stitches, like wisdom teeth removal. <<People getting slaughterd=cool>>: Ah, a woman after my own heart. <<when Josh comes to see you BAP him if he gets out of line((making Canada jokes etc))>>: What did I ever do to YOU!? BTW, Lain "bapping" me won't stop me from making Canada jokes...just wait till she says "aboot".

Baldy: <<I'm destined to have a friendly relationship with your answering machine>>: That sounds kinda gross. <<you can now set gems and jewels into the armors>>: Sweet! I've actually never played D2 myself, but I've watched it many times. <<What better reason could one have to laugh maniacally?>>: When I finally succeed in taking over the world, will it be a better reason? <<I'll probably give a random price each time>>: I can deal with that. I'll be paying my assassin's well. <<trust me; you don't want to know... you SO don't want to know>>: No, actually I do. I really do.

Lain: <<STOP THINKING ABOUT MY ANSWERING MACHINE LIKE THAT!>>: Heh, heh. <>: Fine then! I'll just randomly stroll about Toronto by myself. Do Canadian chicks like Americans like European chicks? <>: As if you could. <<if he tries too hard to insult me>>: Try!? I won't have to try! Just say "aboot" once... <<only because ALL things that come out of warps' head are CR inapropriate>>: We are cut from the same cloth. <<ill make sure to wear my happiest yellow fleece pants if i ever see you>>: You will not! <<he told me he would never help me buy a mac as long as he lived>>: Wow. What a bastard. You should tell him your friend who is professional in the area with more than one job uses macs and wouldn't use anything else. I'll be happy to give him an earful if you think it'll help you get an orange iBook, though it probably won't. <<the most useless machines on the planet>>: HAH! That's a good one. As him if he knows what Sircam, ILoveYou, and Code Red viruses are. Because mac users don't care about them. As for useless machines, I can post from my laptop and YOU can't. Maybe that's why he doesn't want you to have a new machine...macs have built-in modems (you CAN NOT take them out without permanently destroying the machine) and he can't just take away your modem. <<SJ is a jerk and pay no mind to him>>: As if that would stop us from paying attention to him. <<josh is full of himself.. (i think thats the point, really.. thats why hes sooooo much fun...>>: Amazingly, despite my attitudes, I do have a number of friends even in the CR.

David G: <<you can die of fatigue induced by deleting Sircam emails>>: LOL. I don't think so, but you can die from the effects of the virus.

DPH: <<Normal is conforming to a standard or a set of standards that are not considered excessive by a person or set of people>>: To quote a movie I've long forgotten: "Normal is what everyone else is and you are not". Oh, now I remember, it was Star Trek: Generations.

K folks, I'm tired. I actually made some money tonight, which is good, but I'm wiped.

When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight.
-Ghost Host, Disneyland

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Thursday, August 2, 2001 03:19:36 AM
IP: ppp-206-170-217-114.nhwd02.pacbell.net

Thanks for the well-wishes, folks! I'm feeling some better, and I think the physical symptoms stem from being stressed and overwhelmed. Or maybe it's a depressive episode. I experience those at semi-regular intervals.

Warpmind > I think I'll keep the Elyvorrins out of this one; I'm busy with them in the ElfLore books ; ) I'll come up with something, though. Always do. And of course, since it's a con game and therefore supposed to fit into a 4-hour slot, it'll probably only run about 7 and 1/2 hours ...

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, August 2, 2001 12:00:43 AM
IP: 04-162.075.popsite.net

Jan> I live in Carrollton which I guess is not that far from Mesquite. The George Bush Highway was just opened yesterday so it's pretty easy to get anywhere now.
SOROW
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 10:55:06 PM
IP: a010-0186.dll2.splitrock.net

Lian: 'Profit in Peace' is by a British band called Ocean Colour Scene. It's from the album 'One from the Modern'

::waves to everyone::
Kahreen
AustraliaWednesday, August 1, 2001 10:48:59 PM
IP: cofax2-004.dialup.optusnet.com.au

You know I am bored at work when I can discuss what the definition of normal is.

Here's the definition I finally came to: Normal is conforming to a standard or a set of standards that are not considered excessive by a person or set of people.

Now I'll wait for that definition to be slashed to pieces. :-(

Jan - I can believe your story. All the same, that's crazy.

It's confirmed that I will be off on *Mondays*. Actually, I would have rather been off on Wednesdays.

1+1=-3

Jan - My biggest hold-back is getting reference before going to visit. I'm not going by the telephone entries. I want someone reputable. I'll do the same thing beofre I go to take an IQ test and depression screening except I'm worse on being picky. I want to make the psyschologist shares basic beliefs that I have. Hopefully, a friend of mine should help me weed some of them out.

That's all for now.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 02:55:11 PM
IP: max1-58.cwy.cei.net

Hi.

I'm back. At least temporaraly.

Well, actually, I have no way of knowing how regularly I'll be back. Things are a little weird here. I just wanted to make sure anybody who cared knew I wasn't dead.

Not that I was in any danger of dying - unless you can die of fatigue induced by deleting Sircam emails...

Anyway, I'll try to get caught up on the room again. Maybe I'll have time for some movie reviews. I've seen Planet of the Apes. (Short version 3/5 stars. See the Matinee. Don't pay full price)

See ya'll later.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 02:18:18 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

warps>> STOP THINKING ABOUT MY ANSWERING MACHINE LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *brandishes pop bottle*
lain
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 01:48:55 PM
IP: dbwref010.lib.uwo.ca

hey i just found these two great songs.. dunno who theyre by but ones called "grow in dirt" and sounds vaguely like the barenaked ladies, though i know its not them.. and the other is "profit in peace" and it makes me feel like i should break out a joint and protest the vietnam war or something.. its great.. ; )
aaaaaaaaaaaanyway.. yeah my midterm was today.. it was allright. no women artists in the slides, though. however there was a lot of woman from willendorf and victory of samothrace.. at least its half over....

spacebabie>> funny how people getting slaughtered = cool, isnt it? kinda like when theres a car accident and someones been hurt really badly and all you do is stare.. i find that really disturbing but.. i still find myself doing it.. (i watched trauma: life in the ER last night......) and i dont know if i will get to see josh cos i have to work : ( but i will put him in line... or laugh at/with him if he tries too hard to insult me.. ; )

lynati>> i can try.. i got your message on IM thismorning.. some idiot (named lain) was using the library computer which has IM and forgot to turn it off when they left. what an idiot! it was on all night!!

jannie has pink highlights?! : D WOOHOO THAT IS COOL!!!!!! well.. maybe the people at your church dont think so but.. I SURE DO!!!!!! ive never used that kind of temporary shampoo though.. when ive done it, its been the month long temporary kind so i dont have any advice for getting it out (sorry!)

josh>> yes, warps' comment WAS CR inapropriate.. but only because ALL things that come out of warps' head are CR inapropriate.. and hey! dont give me that about my finger/brain connection deficiencs, they only ever happen with numbers.. especially 8 and 9.. (its awful at work.. im trying to punch it into the credit card machine and i do it wrong and have to start over... : ( )
and no, the bend and snap wouldnt work on my dad, i dont think. it was a guy friend i have, who (incidentally) took me to the movie aswell. i think he really really wants to date me but he knows he doesnt have a snowballs chance in hell.. not only because of moochie but because of past.. stuff..
you dont like yellow??? well.. ill make sure to wear my happiest yellow fleece pants if i ever see you.. even if it IS 38 degrees out.. : D
oh.. ive been addicted to my computer.. but thats kinda sad now, isnt it.. no more internet on my mutant enemy who cant even run cereal box CD roms. i told my dad and he laughed. then i complained and he told me he would never help me buy a mac as long as he lived. no mac for me : ( he says theyre "the most useless machines on the planet" i dunno.. i like em..

revel>> does YOUR art history teacher get "vibes" too? "so how are you guys today? im feeling a vibe that youre worried about the exam.." lady.. that AINT NO VIBE!!!!!! THATS THE FREAKED OUT LOOKS ON OUR FACES!!!!!! take your birkenstocks and go home!!! i think minimalist paintings and sculputres are cool, actually. rembrandt is kinda depressing.. were studying rococo art now though, so please... feel free to end my misery....

nuriko_star>> WOOHOO WE ARE FRIENDLY!!!!!!! : D : D (well.. just wait till we start to fight and then you can run for cover... but once weve done that, were back to friendly!!) oh.. and by the way (just so you know) SJ is a jerk and pay no mind to him

*winks at SJ* you know youre a jerk!!!!! you didnt even say HI to me, you JERK!!!!!! ; )

Niamhgold>> well... i am going into my third year of this school but its only my first year in art but im going into my second year of art.... heh.. i was in music for my first two years, then decided that was smelly and my dad switched me to art (which i have also discovered is smelly but im stuck with it cos they dont have what i WANT at this university and my dad doesnt want me to go anywhere else) this summer, i took the first year couses, so i dont have to go back to first year in my third year, ill just be put back one year. not too bad.

crzy demona>> yeah.. josh is full of himself.. (i think thats the point, really.. thats why hes sooooo much fun...)
; )

love,
lain "oh no yellow!!!!" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 01:47:03 PM
IP: dbwref010.lib.uwo.ca

*Warpmind enters, looking moderately gloomy.*
Hi, everyone...

Lain: I know, I know... seems I'm destined to have a friendly relationship with your answering machine, then. };)

Winterwolf: Well, you can still use the original set of characters for Diablo 2, now you just have two more to choose from... but, oh! the extra thingies there... the jewels to set into weapons and armor (yes, you can now set gems and jewels into the armors, as well, not just weapons, shields and helmets), the multipurpose charms... the extended stash... I love it. :D

Christine: Okay, if you're really lost for "Mystery of the Elven Mummies", how 'bout the most mind-numbingly obvious option? There is a mummy missing from the Elyvorrin tomb, and no clue as to when, how or why it was removed? (Seems like a viable emergency alternative, anyway...)

Josh: Of *course* I'll laugh maniacally. There'll be nothing to trace whatever mishaps occur back to me in any manner, and I still get my revenge. What better reason could one have to laugh maniacally? };) And I'll charge an appropriate amount per beheading, based on a complex formula involving publicity, what I think of the target, and the difficulty of it as valid key factors. In other words, I'll probably give a random price each time... ;) And the reason why you should keep Lain away from popsickles... trust me; you don't want to know... you SO don't want to know...

Well, that about concludes my post... Later.
*Slouches out, still looking a trifle glum*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 01:21:31 PM
IP: mp-217-213-239.daxnet.no

Well my dad is going into surgery today. He had a prostate exam and it turns out there was a bacterial infection. The goodnews is he didn't have any cancer.

The other bad news is one of my brother's fillings came out so he now has a temporary plug.

Even though I feel fine, I know it won't be long before I either get a scrape, scratch((Thanks to the cats most likely)),cut,Bapped,bruised, pulled muscle or an ache. Sometimes I think I'm the queen of pain..and Before Josh can say it...."Spacebabie's new name is the Queen of Pain!"

but for the record.....24 years without a broken bone or a single stitch and still counting.

Nuriko Sar, Welcome to the CR. I love your name. Is it one of the Suzaku Seven No da? I'm really into FY No da. Looking forewrd to your fic.

Jannie>>>AC broken? Ours is too. Oh its keeping us cool but its leaking water.

Christine>>>Hope you get better soon, about you and the pound. sounds lik me I would want to adopt every critter there.

Stephen S jr>>>HUG!

Lain>>>I agree with you about the art teacher, of course my favorite artists are Mike Whelan and H. R Geiger, well those are my favorites of the Post modern age..I also like art by...Warhol, Lichenstein,Dahli,Picaso, Frida Kahlo((Hey a woman!)) and Bosch, unfortunatly some people are so gun ho about their causes they tend to get blind to the real facts..Flowers=bordom, People getting slaughterd=cool and when Josh comes to see you BAP him if he gets out of line((making Canada jokes etc))

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 09:31:16 AM
IP: proxy.lga.netsetter.com

*In*

Aaron : I forgot to say in my email. It is "Her flashing eyes, her floating hair", I suppose in deference to the great role Delirium plays in it. ...oh, nutbunnies! I don't seem to have written down the author's name. I'll look it up later...err...no, wait! I finally learned how to open another window on this computer, so I'll do it now. *jeopardy music* ah! the author is "Dramath". I have a couple bits that leapt out at me immediately; tell me if you want me to send them to you.

lain: err...can you email me, please?

*Out*
Lynati Kshudra - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
"It's not that I can't play ball hard, it's just that I don't want to..."
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 07:12:04 AM
IP: 207.226.219.97

Oh yeah... little word of warning...
Using it ALOT on long hair is kinda like using paint stripper to remove nail polish.
Yeah, it will work, but you ain't gonna have nice looking nails afterward!
Fire Storm
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 04:02:46 AM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Jan: <Temporary hair color>
If you REALLY want to get it out fast, try clarifying shampoo. I forget the brand I use (I am at work and can't check), but I THINK it is Pantene's "Purity"
(Oddly enough, it DOES work on me. Go fig! ;)
Fire Storm
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 04:00:22 AM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Rule #1 Re: temporary hair dyes…. Do NOT apply a temporary hair dye of ANY color if you already have highlights on your hair… it does not wash out. O.o Yes folks, I now have dark pink “highlights”. *L* I’m teaching at Vacation Bible School this week and the group of young teenage girls brought some of that temp. hair dye with them. I was feeling spunky, so I allowed them to put it in my hair too. I laughed but the old ladies in the church were gasping and giving me dirty looks – geesh, not as if I ran thru the church in a thong bikini! Anyway, I came home and immediately washed my hair, twice. Some of the dye washed out but as soon as I started combing my hair… oops there it still was! I went to the store and bought some Prell shampoo. I will try again in the morning to remove the pink from my hair. If that doesn’t work, I will be calling my hair dresser and telling the embarrassing thing that I did while at VBS. *chuckles*

My air conditioner is still not working properly in this apartment and it’s 87 degrees at 2:15 a.m. I’m pissed. I am going to ask my dad tomorrow what the renter’s rights are concerning this issue. In Texas I know that if the AC is not working, the landlord has to pay for the motel lodging for the renter until the AC unit is fixed. My dad has been a Missouri slumlord for years, so he’ll know what I can do at this point. This has gone on for the entire month of July and I’m sick of it. Each day I’m told, “we’re working on trying to figure out what is wrong with the unit”. It has made me ill from the heat as well as Anna. Enough is enough.

Josh
<<Summers are starting to be taken over by things like summer school, internships, research, jobs, etc, and all I want to do is play. >>
Yeah, it’s called growing up and taking responsibility… it’s a bitch, huh? ;)
<<You can't hold your family hostage just because you're paying the check.>> apparently you can if you were there for over two hours! *L*
<<we discovered a most interesting smell. The smell of cow @$$.>> Ranchers call it “dollars on the hoof” or a.k.a. MONEY! Almost wants to make ya’ a vegetarian, huh? *L* I drove past a feed lot last month in western Oklahoma and my Chihuahua and Min Pin almost had a fit! They were looking around for the hamburgers. Hehe
<<people are intimidated by people who are better looking than they are>> bullhockey. Could it possibly be that you just don’t like the person? Why are looks a factor? Not liking someone and being intimidated by someone are two separate issues. Now, I am NOT referring to the person that you were referring to because I haven’t a clue who you are talking about nor do I care who it is. I just get tired of people making such blanket statements such as what you said. (I’m talking about people in general.) I am not nor have I ever been intimidated by anyone else because of his or her looks. I don’t give a rat’s patoot of how they look. What I do care about or become OFFENDED or DISGUSTED – Note: NOT intimidated is when someone thinks that they are beautiful and therefore should be treated as such. *rolls eyes * plleeaasseee! I have some very beautiful (even by your standards) friends and I’m not the least bit “intimidated” by them… I know some very beautiful people that are complete snots and idiots. And even though a person will treat you with kindness certainly does not mean that he/she will treat everyone else like that.
I do, however, admire your loyalty to your friend.

Sorrow> I grew up in Mesquite :) (well, until we moved to Missouri) Are you anywhere close to there?

Nuriko_Sar> The Gathering next year will be held in Virgina Beach, VA during the month of August. The webpage will be up soon, I believe. I'm sure they will post it in here, so keep an eye out for it :)

Stephen> ack! Sorry to hear about you receiving hate mail. =\ I personally would consider it a challenge and would respond accordingly ;)

Christine> sorry you haven’t felt very well lately. I hope that whatever it is that you have will pass quickly *hugs*

Revel> ditto on what I said to Christine. I picked up a nasty cold or allergy from being in the heat of my apt. so much. Just made everything even worse.

DPH> I hope that you can receive medical assistance with your back! I have a pinched sciatic nerve and I know how painful that is… I can’t imagine living with the kind of back pain that you have on a daily basis. I’m glad that you can draw unemployment for the lost day of work each week =) That’s almost as good as having a paid holiday each week, huh?

Aaron> I go on buying binges on Ebay. Sometimes it’s fox items, sometimes Boy Scout things, and this time was baby items. *L* I have hit my first snag though. I bought a brand new baby bed from a dealer in Arizona. I paid with my credit card. The bed was shipped July 11 and I have not yet received it. When I emailed to inquire about it, I found out that UPS lost the bed because it was not packaged properly. I have since found out that if UPS says that your packaging is not up to their standards, then you can sign a waiver releasing them of any liability. I did ask UPS how in the world do you loose a whole baby bed?? No answer from them. I have emailed the seller a couple of times and they have tried to tell me that it was between UPS and myself. UPS told me that it was the seller’s responsibility. I will give the seller until tomorrow afternoon to either send me another bed or refund/credit my credit card. If they refuse, I will send them another email telling them that I will file a complaint with the BBB in Arizona, will file fraudulent claim with the attorney general in both Arizona and Missouri, and will file a complaint with Ebay’s Safe Harbour.
Under Arizona law, a private citizen can bring an action for a violation of the Consumer Fraud Act within one year from the date the claim arises.
I will also check into filing a complaint with The Internet Fraud Complaint Center (https://www.ifccfbi.gov/), a division of the FBI dealing with Internet sales fraud actions and consumer protection issues.
Yes, I’m “retired” now and I have plenty of time to follow up on any “threats” that I make. ; ) hehe, it pays to have a brother who is an attorney and the other brother in marketing!

Okie dokie, it’s almost 3 a.m. and it’s finally cool enough for me to try and get some sleep in here. I’m definitely buying a window unit AC in the morning. I wonder if I can deduct the amount of the unit from my rent… naw, I already know the answer to that one…. Nope! Not unless it was agreed by both parties. Bummer.
Jan
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 03:47:08 AM
IP: modem20-208.mo-net.com

Hi everyone it's me again(Nuriko_Sar), ok my fanfic should take one more day to complete, I just wanted to ask since some of friends are talking about it but, do any of you know anything about next years gathering like where is it going to be and what not? If you could help me I would love that. Ok just wanted to say that and hope the rest of you have a great day, week, moth whatever ^_^

Sayonnara,
Saki aka Nuriko_Sar ^_~
Saki Asameeya - [Ksmiley-TSroberts@woldrnet.att.com]
Glendale, AZ, USA
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 03:23:15 AM
IP: 218.phoenix-02rh16rt-az.dial-access.att.net

Hello ladies and gentlebeings!

I didn't get my computer today. Or my RAM upgrade. Should get the latter tomorrow, I hope.

Work today was uneventful. I discovered a minor faux pas in the bills of material for an entire product line and set on trying to fix them. It took me most of my work day, and I didn't quite finish. Should finish first thing tomorrow, though, and then I can get started on what I really meant to do today, which was fix the NEXT product line.

Dad and I took a two hour lunch break, which was awesome. We had to run a bunch of errands, then we had lunch at California Pizza Kitchen before heading back to the office (perk of working for your dad: lunch with the boss, and he pays!). I had a BBQ Chicken Pizza with red onions. Remember that, there will be a quiz later.

After a couple more hours back at the office (where I got trampled by a pounce-hugging CR member in AIM chat - I hate it when they do that!), I left early to make a stop at the money exchange place, where I bought some Canadian funny-money for my trip to Toronto on Friday. I walked out of there with enough Canadian dollars to buy, say, Toronto. Hope its enough. The way I spend money, it'll be gone before I leave the airport.

Then I went to the dentist for my semi-annual cleaning. The hygenist was thrilled. Why? Because of what I had for lunch. ;-) After the excruciating torture there, I came to this startling conclusion:

Dominatrices train at dental schools.

I hate it when someone squelches a flame war right before I get the really good lines in! ;-)

Had dinner at The Palm tonight, which is a really nice Surf n' Turf place in Santa Monica. Great dinner with my parents WITHOU MY LITTLE BROTHER!

My laptop's keyboard has 5 keys that don't work: w,s,x,2, and increase brightness keys (I'm using an external keyboard right now, that's how I'm able to type correctly). I'm taking it in first thing tomorrow morning to have them look at it. I predict the following will happen: they'll tell me that they have to send it to Apple and it'll be three weeks to repair this darn thing OR they tell me that they can do it in the time that I'll be in Toronto. But I want to take the laptop to Toronto, even if I need an external keyboard to type on it. But damn those missing keys are frustrating. If they tell me it'll be weeks, I've got to wait till I get my G4 before I can send it in for repairs (cuz you can imagine how helpless I'd be without a computer). If not...eh, I guess I wait for the tower either way, unless they magically have the replacement keyboard in stock (which is HIGHLY unlikely).

On to the replies!

Xanathar: <<o personal to talk about on a public forum>>: I've discovered that nothing is too personal to talk about here. These guys are a great support group. If they can help, they will. <>: All in due time, my friend. All in due time. <<it's configuring the network itself that can be a headache>>: As I said: fun if macs with airport ;-)

Warpmind: <<I'll just watch when problems occur>>: And laugh maniacally so that people will think you did something. <>: I don't think they did. Vikings were more of an axe people. <<Getting me a ridicolously oversized sword MIGHT help your world domination plans>>: How much do you charge for a beheading? <<with you in the equation, I'm up to being a quintuple agent... and thus the Law of Fives is preserved>>: Until I team up with Wilek... <<And who said it was FUNGUS on the kitchen floor?>>: That was the joke. <<that sounded vaguely disturbing>>: Not to mention provocative. <<KEEP HER AWAY FROM POPSICLES>>: No popsicles, check. Uh, why? Or is that not CR-appropriate? <<You're going to draw your sword?>>: That was awful. <<Tends to make swallowing easier that way>>: Helps if you take your foot out of your mouth first.

Star Wyvern: <>: I noticed. <>: Nonetheless, you should make it a point to do so before you post. <>: I like being lied to myself. <>: I gathered. What an interesting set of places to grow up in.

Lain: Sorry about not calling you back, I was out. I'll try to call tomorrow night, around midnight your time. <<whats the world coming to?>>: Nothing. It just keeps going around in circles... <<aaron>> ... ...... .... without a TOWEL?>>: In the study, with the candlestick. Yup, he did it. <<makes you paranoid>>: Short trip. <>: I'd like to take this opporunity to say that my new "mac tower thingy", as jan calls it, will get 1600 MHz in OS X. (lets hear it for symmetric multiprocessing!). And that's g4 power, so we'll call that about 2500 MHz of Pentium power. <<canada money is worth just as much in canada as US money is worth down there>>: Um, no its not. A canadian dollar doesn't buy a pack of gum. <<imac powerbook titanium whatevertheheckyoucallit>>: Steve Jobs is rolling in his black turtleneck over that one. <<drooled>>: Isn't it just the most beautiful laptop ever? <<im having a mac obsession>>: There is no cure. <>: Cuz they rule. <<didnt i already GIVE you that>>: Yes you did. However, you gave me the WRONG number because you have one of those finger/brain connection deficiences. <<can you handle it?>>: Probably not. <<thats not to say i EVER succeed at being funny>>: Me neither. <<disregard anything warps says about popsicles... hes just jealous>>: Ah, so it IS CR-inappropriate. <<and i dont know anything about computers>>: Gee, I couldn't tell. <>: Was he your dad? <<im a femminist>>: Its always something with women, isn't it? <<IM A SEXIST PIG!>>: You too? (boy was THAT taken out of context for my own evil benefit). <>: It is. Or at least it will be, when I take over. <<putting black or dark clothing on the villan in a painting is an example of racism>>: LOL. <<sometimes.. a cigar is just a cigar>>: Unless a woman is smoking it, and then its a penis, obviously ;-) <<sometimes, life isnt fair - EVEN IF YOU ARENT A WOMAN>>: Life isn't fair for men either. <<im getting miffed at political correctness>>: That's because it is the dumbest thing in the world. <<they wished he would shut up about me>>: LOL. <<sentimental tear-inducing sniffle-initiating stuff you can imagine>>: I don't know, I can "imagine" quite a bit. <>: So when is he coming out of the closet? <<stupid united states!!! ITS IN THE WAY!>>: Its all relative. From down here, it looks like you're in the way. And quite frankly, you are. Do you have any idea how many more military bases we'd have if we didn't have to worry about you silly Canadians? ;-) <>: I don't dislike orange. Yellow, on the other hand...yellow can !@#$ !@$*!#% !@$)(*!@$ B #$)&!$)(!@$. <<thanks for the clarification on the thingies with the stuff>>: No problem. <>: Maybe I should take my vast Canadian fortune and purchase one "lain iwakura" and resell to one "moochie". I bet I could make a profit on the exchange rate. <<am i addicted to the computer today or what?>>: You have no idea what it means to be addicted to your computer. <<talking to myself in public again>>: Don't let us stop you.

Siofra: <<as addicted as I am to playing with the new laptop>>: It NEVER loses its charm.

Lain's right. You people who think that everything is a conspiracy against your particular ethnic/religious/whatever background...ya'll need a cement enema. No one is out to get you that badly, except for the religious right, and no one listens to them anyway.

CrzyDemona: <<You are making a fool out of yourself>>: And that would be different from normal...how? <<hun>>: Don't call me that. <<Even if they are terminally charming like you and me>>: Well, me perhaps...just kidding. <>: You'd be right. <>: Gotta catch me first! And in LA, that would have been quite a trick. <<at least you KNOW what you are>>: Its hard to deny it. <<You accept what you are>>: If I didn't, I'd have SERIOUS problems. <>: "almost"? That's not good enough. I better try harder ;-)

Coyote: Congrats on the move and good luck.

Niamhgold: <<I'm bushed>>: I'm weeded. <<I'm too tired to be _really_ coherent>>: Most of us aren't coherent when we're awake (::glances at Lain::). <<she doesn't even answer her own questions>>: Typical female. ;-) <<Back from your vacay, huh?>>: Much to my dismay, I assure you. <<sorry that your ex-gal was blabbing about you>>: Not half as sorry as the people who had to listen to her. God I pity those people. <<you failed to mention if it was good stuff or bad stuff>>: Well, its kinda both. Its the kind of stuff that would not only get me a "penalty: roughing the CR" but probably get me outright booted. Ya know? Not the kind of stuff that a) she should be sharing or b) anyone wants to hear about me. <<longer & better post tomorrow>>: I could make a sick joke about how size doesn't matter, but of course that's a blatant lie. <<check your email>>: Whew, good thing you told me. With the 10+ hours that I spend in front of a computer a day, its highly likely that I'd forget to do something like that ;-) <>: WOW. Oh, and as for Wolf's asking if you need to be trimmed, I'll just say a big *NO COMMENT* ;-)

Hey, FS. Instead of a DLD, can you make an LD based on this picture Niamhgold drew of Selene? RUFF!

Nuriko_Sar: <>: its "grammar", not "grammer". So far its not ok ;-) <<you ppl are the friendlyist, nicest and most energetic ppl I have ever had the plessure to meet on a message board>>: Stick around a while. You won't be saying that in a month.

Revel: <>: Sick as a state of mind or a state body? Cuz the first one is pretty fun. <>: I'm sure they appreciate it. I know I would. <<Not going to go into details because we all know what they are and yes, it sucks>>: I seem to have a special resistance against sick girls. I've never caught anything from a girl I was with. <<A green I book you say. That would go with my N64>>: I suppose it would, at that. Imagine a shade of green so radioactively bright that just looking at it would vaporize your eyeballs. That's the shade of green of this iBook. Apple called it "key lime".

GAH! The cursed TGS CR Admin pic!

Robby: <<It really irks me that as little time as I have to spend here, that I have to spend part of it quelching a potential flame war>>: That is your fault, not ours. Sure, you have to be in here to do that, and we respect it. But the fact that you don't come in here more often is something that (sadly) only you control. Also, in accepting the job as CR admin, you knew that part of your job was quelching flame wars. So be it. But thanks for stopping this before it got ugly.

Winterwolf: <<If it happens will I get better?>>: Probably not. <>: I'm gonna use baldy, because its gotta be more frustrating to be called that at 21. <<You pyromaniac you>>: Funny you should say that. I bought a crack torch today. And I don't smoke. <>: Apparently all the geeks moved of D&D. <<which female gargoyle is the character model?>>: Doesn't matter. All disney females look the same. <<How almost?>>: Legally almost, which is more than we can say for SOME people (who would be "almost legally")! ;-) <<Ginsu sword with flashlight attachments?>>: The handle is actually a maglight. <<You shouldn't have to deal with being abused by text messages>>: Once, an AIM log got up and threw a shoe at me. I mean, who throws a shoe? Honestly! <<Do you need to be trimmed now?>>: Ya know, to a guttermind like myself, that sounds REALLY bad.

Christine: <<we saved his widdle life by bringing him home from the pound>>: When I was 7 we got our first cat. We went right to the pound and headed for the feline equivalent of death row, picked one out and took him home. I'd swear they know what they were headed for, because that cat was the sweetest one ever. About 7 years later, he disappeared while we were on vacation (we think maybe coyotes - he was declawed) and we got another one. Same scenario. Again, the sweetest cat. People say that cats are standoffish and mean, but they just haven't met the right cats. Aww thanks for bringing that up, now I'm all teary-eyed thinking about my first cat :-(

Sorow: << we were conceived on Valentine's Day>>: Us september babies are special because, if you think about it, we were conceived during a drunken New Year's or X-mas orgy.

Sevarius Jr: <<they've give Crzy a chance to, ironically, talk about the shortcomings of others>>: Why is that ironic and why do you hate it? I would think you would love Crzy talking about the shortcomings of others (I know I do! No sarcasm intended, Jen. Your comments about my character were really dead on and entertaining to read.) <<if Demona tells Josh that he's full of himself, does that give solid, once-and-for-all proof that he and I might in fact really be the same person?>>: When I first read that, I thought you were referring to the chartoon character. I don't think it does. Lots of people are full of themselves. And why would THAT be ironic? The only solid proof will be if you don't show up at the next Gathering, which is really close to D.C. So there's no excuse, assuming you really do exist.

Alright folks, that'll all for tonight. Off to bed so I can take in my computer tomorrow morning.

If brute force doesn't work, you're not using enough.
-Mike Margolis

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 02:03:31 AM
IP: ppp-206-170-217-31.nhwd02.pacbell.net

I don't even know who this "Target" is, but I both love them and hate them at once. I'm grateful to them because, since apparently this mystery villain went to G2K and I didn't, I can't be blamed for being "Target". I hate them at the same time, because they've given Crzy a chance to, ironically, talk about the shortcomings of others.

And to continue with our theme of irony, if Demona tells Josh that he's full of himself, does that give solid, once-and-for-all proof that he and I might in fact really be the same person?

Stephen: Apology accepted, I guess. Just next time, save the furvor and righteous indignation about me for something I really, *really* deserve.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 01:15:29 AM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

Lynati> I live in a small city off of Dallas, TX.
Winterwolf> November. We November babies are special cause if you think about it, we were conceived on Valentine's Day :)
SOROW
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 01:04:04 AM
IP: a010-0158.dll2.splitrock.net

Winterwolf > feeling an eensy bit better, thanks.

Stephen > sorry to hear about the move and the hate mail and the trouble at work. I just e-mailed you about that article for Sabledrake and hope you get a chance to see it before this weekend.

Update > anyone interested can do a search for Silversilk on Barnes & Noble and see what there is to see ; ) I just realized it's almost August and I have to come up with an adventure to fit the title "Mystery of the Elven Mummies" in three weeks. The latest book is progressing, not quite as well as I could have hoped but that's what I get for inducing labor ; )

In other news > Becca's cat Darth got out and got lost last week, and as our ads and posters have turned up nothing and she's not the most streetwise of felines, it's probably fairly sure we'll not see her again. I hope she was taken in by someone. But now we have, at Becca's urging, a new kitten named Ichabod. White cat, black furniture, should be a treat. He's awfully cute, though, and we saved his widdle life by bringing him home from the pound (I shouldn't be allowed to go there, because I want to take them all).

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, August 1, 2001 12:21:14 AM
IP: 04-207.075.popsite.net

Just replies for me today.

Nuriko_Sar> Hi! Welcome to the CR. :)

Josh> <Quiet or I'll turn you into a newt.> If it happens will I get better? :P <<So which do you prefer?
Baldy or Fuzzy?>: Which ever one he picks, do we call him the other?> With that idea in mind I guess we alternate now. <Like you need a GAME to be fireball-happy!> You pyromaniac you. ;) <Before Diablo II, fireballs WERE mass damage spells.> I know! What happened?

Patrick> < I'm working on a design for some articulated wings..> Now the question is which female gargoyle is the character model? ;P

Warpmind> <The Expansion Pack does WONDERS to revive interest in Diablo 2> Now I'm interested. I'll have to take a look. Though it'll still be hard to adjust not stacking walls of fire the baddies, after a few static fields and then running away from the enemy while setting the ground ablaze. <Daggerfall> For some reason I never was able to get into that game. It probably had something to do with the fact that I only had it for a few days.

SOROW> <almost 19> How almost? :)

Christine> Hope you feel better Christine.

Dreamie> **snuggles** It is great to have you back my love. ^_^

Aaron> <<Drizzit> Where is he? Bring him on.> If I remember correctly, he's off in the forest Northwest of Nashkel. If you do go after him I want to hear details. I got my ass kicked a few times before I only barely beat him. Still it was fun just trying to do. < It slices, it dices, and it doubles as a nightlight too.> Ginsu sword with flashlight attachments? O.o

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr.> I hope things look up immediately. You shouldn't have to deal with being abused by text messages or anything else for that matter. Nobody should. :(

DPH> If you can make something good out of the weirdness of what's going on at work I'm happy to hear it.

Niamhgold> <I'm bushed> Sounds like a freak accident. Do you need to be trimmed now? :P

That's all. Good night.

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:54:34 PM
IP: adsl-141-155-117-20.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Okay folks, enough discussing of "Target". I have no idea who this person is, and I don't care. If its my best friend or worst enemy, I don't care. Ya'll are either talking behind someone's back, or cheaply attacking someone in the CR without naming names so as to avoid trouble. Those of you who know who "target" is know who this person is, and that's enough.

Resolve this through e-mail or whatever, but I want this discussion ended NOW. Its kinda calm right now, but this is exactly the sort of thing that leads to flame wars all the time.

That's all I have to say on the matter. It really irks me that as little time as I have to spend here, that I have to spend part of it quelching a potential flame war. So enough attacking or defending of "target", okay?
Robby - [MrNoying@aol.com]
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 09:57:45 PM
IP: dialin-707-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Coyote - Please e-mail me with the address you want this artwork shipped to. I don't want to accidentally ship it to the wrong addy if you are moving!

Thanks, and good luck on the move.
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson - [crzy_demona@art-chicks.com]
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 09:18:55 PM
IP: 1cust77.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

I hate being sick. I don't know where it came from but I came down with a cold or something almost over night. Yes, I still went to school and work and now probably infected everyone there. Then again, I probably got it from there, or one of them or a girl of something.
Not going to go into details because we all know what they are and yes, it sucks.

Aaron- thanks for the link but now you've have restarted an addiction of mine and it will never stop AHHH! Oh well. :)

Lain- Hey, your Art History teacher sounds like mine. She's also gets all ticked off when the book only sticks maybe one female artist per chapter. Oh and I totally agree with you. I would rather see paintings of Rembrandt any day over modernist or the ever evil, minimalist. (no offense to those out there who like those movements, I just don't)

Star Wyvern- this is just my opinion, but if Brooklyn was willingly killing people through out space time and all points in between it might become unpopular. Now if he was doing it becasue he thought he had to that makes more material for internal conflicts as well as external. Never underestimate the power of a good story where the lead beats themself up.

mmm... steak and mayo sandwich. (leftover creativity)

Josh- A green I book you say. That would go with my N64.

"Only in my world would blah, blah, blah, be an actual term."
-I can't remember who said this-

Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 09:10:09 PM
IP: ac8dc0f6.ipt.aol.com

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Revel
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 08:53:49 PM
IP: ac8dc0f6.ipt.aol.com

Well Hi again the fanfic is comign along nicely 6 pages done this morning. Oh and to make it easy for you all to say my Name well it's Saki, Saki Asameeya nice to meet ya ^_~. Well I hope my grammer and spelling is ok because my author name use to be Enigma so don't get confused ok?

Well I'll have to say that you ppl are the friendlyist, nicest and most energetic ppl I have ever had the plessure to meet on a message board. Well gotta go and finish the Fanfic hope you all like it when I'm done with it.

Sayonnara, new friends ^_~
Saki.
Nuriko_Sar - [Ksmiley-TSroberts@woldrnet.att.com]
Glendale, AZ, USA
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 08:28:01 PM
IP: 82.phoenix-01rh15rt-az.dial-access.att.net

** Niamhgold enters **

** Yawn ** Wow, I'm bushed. Just got back a few hours ago, slept a little, and now I'm making a little post before a bigger one manana. I'm too tired to be _really_ coherent ;)

So, basic stuff:

Lain: <Feminism> Urgh, I may be female, but I don't like the overly-feminist, "women artists are victims" stuff, either ;) What year are you in? I've gotta tell you, it doesn't start getting *real* bad until you read Linda Nochlin's "Why haven't their been any great women artists?" _Now_ that's a waste of time...she doesn't even answer her own questions. She just ends up with more of 'em ;) As for art feminism in itself...all I can say is "Don't get me started. Don't *even* get me started" ;)

Josh: Hola! Back from your vacay, huh? Sounds like ya'll had fun at camp, sorry that your ex-gal was blabbing about you (you failed to mention if it was good stuff or bad stuff, though ;)). Anywho, longer & better post tomorrow. Oh, and check your email...I sent a piccy.

Shadowrider: **Slaps forehead ** D'oh! Missed you again! Oh, well, I guess you'll be around this next weekend...and I should, too :) Got yer email as well, and I guess I just copied the address wrong. Let's see if I can get it right this time ;)

All for now,
Adios!
Niamhgold
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 07:52:47 PM
IP: lac-flex167.ncia.net

Not gonna jump in on the whole controversy whole-hog, but just enough to state that I think I know who folks're referring to when they refer to "Target," and Crzy, y'all have my thanks for confirming what I've known about "Target" for a good long while.

Home front news: Gonna be moving at the end of the week ... so if I'm out of contact for a while, well that's why. :(
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 07:35:46 PM
IP: 64.243.208.117.i-is.com

::sighs::

Josh - My turn to be brutally honest. You are making a fool out of yourself, hun. You missed G2K... You missed the attitude and the ego. You have every right to talk about YOUR side of "Target". But you can't expect everyone to like everybody. It just doesn't happen. Even if they are terminally charming like you and me. :P

I know what thread on what ezboard you are refering to. I think it's pretty fair to say that you exaggerated that part a bit. It is one thread out of THOUSANDS. One of the biggest online communities I have ever seen. Out of over 600 people posting... what... THREE people commented on "target". That doesn't really sound like an entire EZboard is picking on ONE person all the time now, does it? (I don't think they ever even said Target's name)

I had some problems with attitude from "Target" at G2K. But after they put it together that I was Greg Weisman's close friend (and helping to cast the Radio Play)... they decided to be nice to me. Convenient, huh? I tried to be friendly when I saw the name tag and remembered the person. But Target thought it better to look down on me like I was their fangirl. Whatever.

So, needless to say, that left a bad taste in my mouth about this person.

Now, this year. I got to watch "Target" lie to me and a few people who love them. Flat out, blantant(and totally unbelievable) lies. Not to mention "Target" put the convention in a awkward position with the hotel (due to the fact that "Target" was only thinking about getting some action and not thinking about anyone or anything else).

So let me just say thank you, to Target. Thank you for making it so the police and sherrif's departments had to get involved... Hotel security... the convention staff... Cuz HEY!! I am really glad you got laid and we had to sit up and worry about you instead of getting much needed sleep. Really, thanks a lot.

Anyway, that said... Josh... I still think you are full of yourself and I should have beat your snotty ass. :) But at least you KNOW what you are. You accept what you are. I have to almost admire that about you. "Target" isn't as peaches and cream as their family thinks they are... or the rest of us.

(DAMN it is hard to type this with lack of PRONOUNS!!)

Now, you may think I was out of line to post this much information. But Josh, my friend, you opened up a can of worms, hun. Anything Target gets is brought down by their own actions. Just like the flames I am sure to get from this are all my own fault.

Live and learn....
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 06:22:30 PM
IP: 1cust22.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

Only about as addicted as I am to playing with the new laptop ;)
Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Michigan
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 05:42:25 PM
IP: pm414-32.dialip.mich.net

*slaps self* talking to myself in public again.. sheesh..
lain
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 05:02:56 PM
IP: 198.96.83.44

lain>>yeah, but i only have, like, 64$ canadian in my bank account so : P and it aint lookin like isa gonna be gettin more in there any time soon so...... : P : P : P
(am i addicted to the computer today or what?)
lain
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 05:01:47 PM
IP: 198.96.83.44

never afford a powerbook titanium!? But they're only like $3900 canadian! That's what, $10 US?

Yeah, the orange iBooks are probably cheaper now...like 1200 US instead of 14 or whatever ludicrous price they were charging for them when they were being sold.
Josh
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 02:46:36 PM
IP: adsl-63-194-25-242.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

in another library, far from the first, on the way to canadian tire to pick up my bicycle which busted its back tire... AGAIN...
moochie gets redeemed.. i just got the most totallu unbelievably amazing letter from him.. theres these parts where his campers wrote to me and said they wished he would shut up about me.. and then the part about the guns and the drawing of guns and the funny picture i drew of gunjack valentine (the character) and then this totally GORGEOUS part where he took sections of letters he was going to mail and taped them together in a big tube that goes round and round and round with the most sentimental tear-inducing sniffle-initiating stuff you can imagine.. (i think moochie is a closet poet..) *snifle* aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgh!!!! stupid united states!!! ITS IN THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!! dont get to see him till christmas *grumble* anyway, thought youd like to know he was redeemed..

joshey-poo>> oh.. well does that mean bright orange ibooks are cheaper now to buy second hand??????????? cos we all know i will never afford a POWERBOOK TITANIUM as long as i shall live.. and i LIKE orange.. mostly cos i feel sorry for it cos noone else likes it... hmm.. anyway, thanks for the clarification on the thingies with the stuff... ; )
lain
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 02:25:05 PM
IP: 198.96.83.68

Oh, and Lain: That's POWERBOOK TITANIUM, not imac powerbook titanium. The iMac is the colorful egg-shaped computer. As for Elle's laptop, they don't make those anymore in orange or blue or gray or radioactive green. Apple finally figured out that 49% of the population of Earth would NEVER BE CAUGHT DEAD using one of those. All iBooks are now a beautiful vanilla. I did think it was hysterical watching that law school scene where everyone had a dull black IBM laptop and she's got a shiny orange iBook...but I think a Titanium would have stood out better. You'll have to come shopping with me when I'm in Toronto ;-)
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 01:48:57 PM
IP: adsl-63-194-25-242.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

nuts typo. That should say "last YEAR'S gathering", not "last WEEK's gathering"
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 01:44:06 PM
IP: adsl-63-194-25-242.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

and speaking of the "great white north..." thats a reference to SNOW, get it?? SSSSSSNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOWWWWWWW not "white people are cooler and they all live up here" sheesh.. cant say anything these days, can you?
(hey.. im getting miffed at political correctness.. is this in some way wrong? seeing as how im.. you know.. LAIN, and im a CANADIAN and i go for all that political correctness stuff?) gah.. i need sleep..
lain
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 01:19:05 PM
IP: dbwref010.lib.uwo.ca

wooooooooah... two days in a row?? whats the world coming to?

aaron>> ... ...... .... without a TOWEL?!?!.... *blink*.. ... ...... *giggle*... no, havent seen that one yet.. uh.... ... will it be worth the wait?

*offers some random snugglies to stephen re: hate mail* ive had some scary mail too, its no fun and it makes you paranoid.. *more snugglies* im glad you didnt decide to give up... some of us are friendly and would miss you if you left... yeah yeah i know you dont really know me that much cos we dont exchange many messages here but.. random snugglies anyways.. : )

DPH>> 1 ghz? i think mine runs at 90 mhz.. AKA i cant get rogers cable internet.. stupid thing..

josh>> canada money might be worthless to YOU but canada money is worth just as much in canada as US money is worth down there. a million canadian dollars will still buy a million dollars worth of canadian stuff.. its just that a million US dollars will buy MORE canadian stuff. i recently saw an imac powerbook titanium whatevertheheckyoucallit and drooled.. then i saw "legally blonde" (which i LOVED btw) and droooooooled over elle's computer.. (it was even ORANGE!!! oooooooooh i want....) im having a mac obsession.. i dont know why..
my phone number? well.. didnt i already GIVE you that?? oh well.. ill TRY and mail it to you.. but it will be from the eeeeeeeeevil that is hotmail, can you handle it? : P
and yeah yeah i know moochie is just busy, i wasjust being funny is all. thats not to say i EVER succeed at being funny.. but i try..
oh.. and disregard anything warps says about popsicles... hes just jealous.. ; )
and i dont know anything about computers.. as is illustrated by my use of phrases like "ya know.. the thingie? with the other thingie that does the stuff?" and "whachamahwozit" when discribing anything to do with computers.. ; P

warps>> yeah.. whenever i come home and the machine is beeping at me, i KNOW its you.. yesterday i went to see legally blonde, like i said.. and i did the "bend and snap" and.... the guy i was with bought me dinner......... HEY IT WORKS!!!!!! aaaaaanyway.. today im working from 5 till 10.. and hopefully catching up on some sleep that i didnt get cos i was writing an essay on the art at lascaux. it was actually kind of interesting..

************FEMINISM RANT (AKA WHY LAIN WILL NEVER TAKE WOMENS STUDIES)*************
okay okay.. im a femminist but.. my art history teacher is starting to GET ON MY NERVES!!!!!! women have been oppressed in the art world, sure sure we all get that. then she goes into this big schpeel about how this guy made a hierarchy of types of art, with historical and war paintings at the top and still life at the bottom and how this is all about the oppression of women cos it was mostly women who were doing the still lifes and men were worried they were getting too popular. excuuuuuuse me but is anyone else here struck by the fact that.. paintings about war and historical stuff is waaaaaaaaay more interesting to look at than FLOWERS and FRUIT?! if i was faced with a room full of still life paintings and another filled with dramatic historical stuff, WHICH ROOM AM I GONNA CHOOSE TO GO LOOK AT STUFF!? the HISTORICAL one!!! know why? cos im a PERSON not a DAISY and i like to look at PEOPLE cos i find them INTERESTING!!!!! NOT BECUASE IM A SEXIST PIG!!!!!! GAH!!!!! and she wants us all to take her "womans studies" class next year. methinks NOT!!!!!
im still a feminist but i dont think the world is a giant conspiracy against women. and im not a racist but, unlike my teacher, i dont think that putting black or dark clothing on the villan in a painting is an example of racism. i think they put black on villans cos.. you know the night time is dark.. and when its dark out, you cant see stuff.. and when you hear stuff and you cant see it, its scary and evil-bad (or at least your brain assumes so) and then it gets coloured DARK as a representation of this fear of evil-bad. NOT BECAUSE THE ARTIST THINKS PEOPLE WITH DARK SKIN ARE EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!!
sometimes.. a cigar is just a cigar.. and sometimes, flowers are just BORING and sometimes, just sometimes, life isnt fair - EVEN IF YOU ARENT A WOMAN!! GET OVER IT!!!!
************END FEMINISM RANT***********

aaaaaalrighty then.. that feels better! : D

heh heh star wyvern says "poofles".. i am impressed.. : D

i should go bed now.. with the zzzzzzz and stuff.
love,
lain "no profit in peace" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 01:16:27 PM
IP: dbwref010.lib.uwo.ca

Hey!

Josh> err... sry, I stink at grammer in the first place, and i usually can't keep an editor too long, i get to wrapped up in writing in general I never get a chance to really edit. and i know, until you get to the more recent ones, they are really rocky. sorry. and thanks for the buzz, no one ever really yells at me about them, i prefer the truth over anything! but there are some things that could confuse ya just by reading. I got lots of different ways of talkin'. i grew up in australia, then new york, then chicago, then newfoundland and then california, so i kinda got a screwed accent and way of writing and junk. but thanks a lot, i swear, i will get an editor.
Revel> Hey, glad you read my stuff, well the earlier ones. And yeah, i'm the one with the manawar thing and where he rules the Illuminati. <smiles> if you read the new ones you'll find out just how much he's got on his shoulders. But the new thing that I was working on, i need to switch some stuff around and I have two things I could do, they both stem off an idea I got while watching 'Sliders' Brook does this funky time/universe/location thing where he jumps around to different times, alternate universes, different places all that. but the catch is, he's kinda in debt to this magical talisman that's really like his evil grandmother or somethin' and he has to kill all these people for it. Kinda like an assassin. but here's where i need help. that part. the assassin part. these are the choices. ONE: the talisman pretty much sets a spell on him, taking away everything good in him so there's no chance he'll betray it OR TWO: he goes on who he is, doing the dirty deeds only because he wants to get home, and he believes, once he's done with the jobs, he'll be brought back to where he was taken.

Alrighty, i've rambled enough! toodles! *poofles*
Star Wyvern - [shella_ogden]
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:15:10 PM
IP: 1cust240.tnt91.chi5.da.uu.net

*Warpmind enters, carrying a tall glass of expensive-looking wine.*
Well, it's the 31st... Here's to warpmind@usa.net, an e-mail address that served me admirably well until usa.net stopped their free service today. And may they suffer improbable and enigmatic problems for disbanding their free service just like that. Vengeful? Me? Not at all; I won't even lift a finger to cause problems... I'll just watch when problems occur... };)

On to post...

Rodlox: I dunno if the vikings ever used polearms much... but I'm no expert on the topic. I know a few tidbits about the vikings and their mythology, but nowhere near as much as I should, I suppose...

Revel: I've played Scorched Earth. And I got rid of it when it started to sound bad. (Speaker SFX, ya know.) Now, I play Worms instead. Much more fun. }:)

Josh: Hmmm... *Ponders, strokes chin in clichéd villain-manner.* Getting me a ridicolously oversized sword MIGHT help your world domination plans... *Checks list* Yes, I'm sure I could fit you in there somewhere between Wilek's plan, my plan and two other non-CR-connected plans... I just love this conspiracy stuff; with you in the equation, I'm up to being a quintuple agent... and thus the Law of Fives is preserved. };) And who said it was FUNGUS on the kitchen floor?

Lain "Cute In A Bearsuit" Iwakura: Guhh... I'll try again, and again, and FILL your little answering machine with silly messages. };) (Okay, that sounded vaguely disturbing...)

Oh, by the way, any man planning to visit Lain, take my words to heart: KEEP HER AWAY FROM POPSICLES!!!

Spacebabie: You're going to draw your sword? But I don't even HAVE mine here, so that would be VERY uneven odds...

Aaron: If you like big mass damage spells, MAN, you're gonna love the options in Daggerfall... with the Spellmaker there, you can design your own spells. Personally, for damage spells, I prefer making Area Damage spells, powerful as, well, on a scale from one to ten, with one being a mosquito bite and ten being a nuke, somewhere in the twenties. And of course, a Heal Self effect included. That way, I'll be standing in the center of something that'll clear the dungeon most of the time. };) And nothing extra in the box? Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Josh: This "target"... strangely, from what you said, I have an odd hunch about the identity... but I'm not sure. But I'm not going to stick my foot into it; it'd just get bitten off. (Tends to make swallowing easier that way, y'know...)

Xanathar: You like Final Fantasy, too? Yay! *High-fives* Oh, and the Assassin doesn't need keys? *Blinks* Then why the HFIL have I been carrying over two dozen keys around for the past two quests??? *Frown* Dosh garn it...

Well, I'm at "work", so I guess I should be "working". *Opens folder with the Skuld game, based on Oh! My Goddess.* Dum de dum... Bug Hammer on the move... *Cute sounds envelop everything, and Warpmind fades...*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 08:37:32 AM
IP: garibaldi.ti.telenor.net

Hi all!!

Sorry for not posting for most of last week but things have been a little depressing for me lately(Problems with friends,which is to personal to talk about on a public forum,but it's realationship related),I hate being single,I just want to settle down with somebody special.(I'm sorry if I sound whiny.)
On a happier note I went to see Final Fantasy and I thought it was great(Being the computer geek that I am I couldn't stop drooling at the visuals)

Sorow:Check your email.

Green Baron:<<There are worse places. I just wanted to go at a later date.>>I understand,My Father was in the airforce and we where posted from Adelaide(where I was born) to Darwin then Perth and then finally Melbourne over the course of 15 years.I've spent a great portion of my life travelling interstate,but my dad's been retired now for about five years so I don't have to worry about it anymore(I hate saying goodbye to friends knowing that you will never see them again.)

Gside:<< No, not at all. I'm just making fun of the non existance of Canada. I mean no one can be that nice. Then again, about half of the population is a cousin of mine of some variety.>>Oh sorry,expression is always hard for me to pick up on the net.

Josh:<<Ya know, that actually sounds like fun...if its a bunch of macs and I'm using airport. Sounds like a nightmare on windows.>>it is,it's not just all the cable it's configuring the network itself that can be a headache.

Warpmind:<<Charms? Ethereal Items? Bah, I'm going for the Rune Word items, and the extended stash! And, of course, the main issue is that... *Slobber* assassin... I dunno, maybe I *do* have a fetish for women in snug, flexible armor... };)>>The Assassin is a damn fine character to use,I've only got her at about 14th lvl at the moment(trying to play through "Emperor:battle for dune as well. :) )I love those finishing moves(and the fact that she doesn't need keys to unlock chests)

I better go now,take care all!

Xanathar
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 07:03:08 AM
IP: cpe-203-45-26-71.vic.bigpond.net.au

::yawn/stretch/snarl::

Long first day back at work today. Spent most of the time updating the process routings to accept some new manufacturing options, chatting, and browsing websites.

I also discovered what the most annoying thing in the world is. Guess.

No, its not Microsoft.

No, its not spandex being treated like a right.

No, its not Windows Millenium Edition.

Its when you order a computer that supposedly has a 5-7 week delay and some guy walks through the office carrying a box EXACTLY like the one your computer is supposed to come in, only ITS NOT.

Next person who walks in front of me carrying a G4 box not addressed to me...gets a bullet in the forehead.

I think it was Kathy who said she hopes I don't explode. I think I may.

I did get my replacement power adapter today. I don't know why I'm happy about that. I guess its because its as close as I'm getting to a new computer today. I decided to have the RAM upgraded by professionals, that way if anything gets f*cked I can make them fix it; if I do it myself and something goes wrong, I'm out one laptop. Also found out that upgrading the hard drive doesn't void the AppleCare warranty, but the third-party drive isn't covered (obviously). So I may upgrade the hard drive in this puppy this winter, we'll see if I need it.

I also got paid today: YIPPEE!

I'm going to Toronto on Friday and staying with my cousins. I can't wait. It'll be a blast. I'll have some time to write and play with the 9.2 billion programs I downloaded for OS X. Hey, does anyone know any stuff that's good to buy in Canada (because of the exchange rate) and/or the names/sites of any Canada-based computer manufacturers (hard drives, PCMCIA cards, whatever; that stuff will be WAY cheap in Canada).

Something came to my attention today that I'd like to rant about for a few. My goal is to stay calm, but if I get excited, feel free to slap me (RP'd of course, any violence in real life will be met with carmelized sugar on your engine). I'm gonna try to be as general as I can so as not to make anyone go on the defensive. I'll probably fail. I'm also gonna be brutally honest.

****WARNING: RANT****

When I joined CR, you all pretty much embraced me with open arms (fools! just kidding), except for Pistoff, but I didn't really expect that kind of behavior from him. So far, other than Crzy asking if she could kick my butt when she met me (which I suspect was in jest, though I could be mistaken), you've all be really nice to me, put up with my bitching, been a great support group, good friends, blah blah blah.

You guys all rock, IMNSHO. When I went to The Gathering, I had the best time of my life in just 4 days. I made friends who will probably (hopefully) last for the rest of my life. There were two couples in particular that let me hang with them, even though I was a total 3rd (or 5th, in some cases) wheel. They never made me feel unwelcome. They didn't have to hang with me, they could have been in their rooms catching up on a year of lost time (wink wink, nudge nudge), which quite frankly is exactly what I would have done had I been in their shoes. But hang we did, and I can only hope they had as good a time as I did.

Now, with any group formed around something other than friendship, there appear to be factions. Groups of people that don't like each other for whatever reason.

Or in the case that came to my attention today, groups of people that don't like a particular person. REALLY don't like a particular person.

Normally, that wouldn't bother me. Hell, there must be 4.5 billion people who don't like me. And damned if I've ever cared about any of their opinions. But at least they have a good reason not to like me: I'm a jerk. Say what you want in my defense, but no one who knows me well will argue that I'm not a pig-headed punk. Obviously. All the time. To everyone, even my friends.

This person isn't like that. Let's call this person "target". Because that, quite frankly, is what the person looked like to me today.

I spent some time at Gathering hanging with someone who was well versed in fandom gossip. This individual, who I count as one of the good friends I made during Gathering (you know who you are, I hope), pointed out various people and told me VERY interesting things. Not that it changes my opinion of anyone to hear any of that stuff (well, except for me possibly thinking they're nuts, but that doesn't change anything). From this person I heard several stories about the events of last week's gathering.

Supposedly, as a result of one of these events at the last Gathering, "target" found themselves very unpopular. Today I was informed of an ezboard where half the time was spent ragging on "target", saying that "target" wasn't as good looking as whichever people were posting on the board, that "target" was a mean person with a bloated ego, that some showing "target" had at the last Gathering (I won't say what, as that would reveal "target"'s identity) wasn't really that impressive (when, in fact, it was) and that they'd all go out of their way to one-up "target" next year.

Both genders at the fandom had some really good looking members. My personal sexual preference aside, I will say that "target" was one of the good-looking people (without referring to his/her gender so as to maintain generality). I talked with several people at Gathering, and I didn't see anyone who was more hated than "target's" significant other. Not because "significant other" was mean or stupid, but because "other" was with "target". Other than that, they all loved "other". Still do, to my knowledge.

In summary those last couple paragraphs, to have to organize a whole ezboard so a group can all feel better about themselves by bashing someone else's looks is totally immature and lame. It is quite obvious of reading that no one was jealous of THEIR significant others, if in fact they even HAD significant others (which for some of the posters in this board, would have really surprised me). Nevermind the fact that "target" is a good looking person. Next time you wanna bash someone's looks, pick me. Bashing on "target" for looks is like bashing on me for brainpower. Just outta your league.

I'm posting this here because I'm not having much luck trying to get into the ezboard to defend my friend. But here are a few choice quotes from it, altered to maintain anonymity. These are gonna get me a bit riled up...

<<howd a nice [person] like [significant other] end up with a snot like [target]>>: Um, if you can't figure this out, you need your eyes checked.

<<im guessing i should give her another chance>>: Did the year of constant hatred start to grate on you?

<<everyones mutual hatred from G2K>>: Everyone's? Looks like we forgot the people who aren't shallow and impulsive.

<>: Does it ever get tiring plotting against someone who isn't even in your daily routine? How do you hate someone so far away from you?

<<[target] just has an EGO from HELL!>>: Wow. That was harsh. And totally untrue. I have an ego from hell. "target" just has a little self confidence.

<<[target's demonstration] isn't all that impressive>>: Oh, spare me. Ya'll were DROOLING over it last year. EVERY ONE OF YOU WAS IN AWE. If you weren't you wouldn't have been so interested in it. No one asks me how I wrote a program to model a cooling fin. Why? Because no one cares. But trust me, it is just as amazing accomplishment as target's demonstration.

Now, to address the comments about "target"'s personality. It came to my attention, through questioning a few people, that the only person who really spent any significant amount of time with "target" was "significant other", and they fell in love (supposedly, I've my own issues with THAT whole thing but story for another time). So why, if the only person to spend a significant amount of time with "target" was "other", did "target" walk away with so many enemies.

I can draw only one conclusion: people are intimidated by people who are better looking than they are. How am I able to draw this conclusion? Well, I grab a pencil and paper and...oh, nevermind. The comments written about "target" were that he/she was nothing but an egoist and a snob.

Doesn't that sound a lot like ME?! Cuz it does to me.

Well its not. It is, in fact, someone who is as much my opposite as my best friend is (which doesn't mean much to you guys, but suffice it to say its diametrically opposed as north and south). Since the moment I first IMed "target", I've been treated with nothing but respect and kindness. I grew up in LA, in the valley, where "Clueless" is a way of life. I know snobs when I see them, and I know egotism everytime I look in the mirror. I would NEVER use those words to describe this person.

Not only that, but how could a group of people that didn't spend any time with "target" say these horrible things about "target's" personality? They couldn't. Not with any evidence, anyway. All they did was take the event I mentioned earlier and use it to extrapolate "target's" personality. Now, I confess, I don't think that this event was the smartest thing "target" has ever done, and had I been there, I'd have advised "target" to act differently, or at least modify the WAY they acted (I'm trying hard not to take sides on this particular event).

When I came to Gathering, "target" wasn't the first person I saw. In fact, I'm not even sure exactly when I met "target" and "significant other". But I know they were immediately accepting of me and my company. Whatever mistakes "target" made, it appears he/she is aware of them and trying to make up for them, even if they didn't go out of their way to say a special hello to every person and become THEIR best friend. But "target" certainly tried to do that with me.

Now, I'm sure the people that don't like "target" will turn that around and say "target was trying to get you on their side because you're new and you didn't see target at G2k." Well, you're free to turn it into that. But I really didn't get that impression, and neither did any of the other people I was hanging out with at Gathering. Besides, there aren't any advantages to having me on "her side". Yeah, I'm brilliant and devastatingly handsome...oh wait...nevermind that doesn't help (and the second part isn't true anyway). I admit that I am a good arguer (many of you have confessed to wanting me as your lawyer as soon as I get out of law school ;-)) but its not as if I can change anyone's opinions on this matter, no matter how much I argue.

I will say two things. First, I hope that those of you that have these superficial reasons for disliking "target" (I know that "target" doesn't personally dislike any of you) will give him/her a second chance. They didn't mean it, and they'd really like to be friends with everyone. And quite frankly, if YOU don't want to be friends with everyone in the fandom (because they're no reason that we shouldn't all be friends) then I'd like to politely tell you to take a long walk off a short cliff.

The second thing is that I will stand by "target" and "significant other" for the rest of my life against the entire fandom to the ends of the earth if that becomes required of me because of the friendship they showed me on one day in June 2001. I'd protect them like I would any of my more local close friends. Let me clarify that: BECAUSE OF THEIR FRIENDSHIP. "target" is not an egoist, or mean spirited, or heartless. In fact, "target" is quite the opposite, and "significant other" wouldn't be with "target" if all of target's enemies were correct.

I tried really hard during this "essay" to avoid naming people as either attackers or defenders. The people who this is directed at know its directed at them. The people who this is about know its written in their defense.

In conclusion, I'd like to say that I find it the irony of ironies that one of the nicest people at Gathering leaves with people talking about them behind their back and plotting to be mean to them while the biggest jerk present (me) walked away with a bunch of new friends, no enemies, and as Jan put it, "a fanclub".

What a world, what a world.

****END REALLY LONG RANT****

Sorry about that. Needed to be said. On to the replies!

Lain: <<you know what its like when you get nervous and you just start talking and machines make me nervous>>: When I get nervous, I like to shut up to avoid embarassing myself. So no, I don't know what that's like. And machines don't make me nervous, because I'm a geek, so I don't know what that's like either. In conclusion, I really have no clue what you're talking aboot. Speaking of aboot, I'm gonna be in Toronto from Friday until the 13th. Email me your phone number and I'll call you from there. We should hang at least one day. <<complain to my roommate..who is never home>>: Why don't you change it while they're out? I'm sure she'll see the humor in that. <<MY COMPUTER ISNT GOOD ENOUGH TO RUN GAMES FROM A CEREAL-BOX CD ROM!>>: Canada money is worthless, go buy a new one. In fact, I may go shopping for computer components while I'm up there. If you go shopping with me I might be persuaded to acquire a modem for you...did you still need one of those? Hey, do you know of ANY Canada-based computer companies (or can you put me in touch with someone who might know?)? <<coochie coos his cheek>>: I wasn't aware that "coochie coo" is a verb. <<all legal tender of liberia>>: If your silly funny-money keeps going the way its been going, its gonna be legal tender there too. <<moochificator>>: But will he be back? <<you all thought he was a tough guy>>: *I* never made that mistake. <<im assuming he doesnt love me anymore and ill just sulk in the corner and find myself a rebound boyfriend>>: There's a safe assumption after 5 days. <<find myself an ethnically-opposite girlfriend of some sort>>: I can't WAIT to hear about your dad's expression. <<his MOTHER called me yesterday and we had a loverly chat. but does HE call?>>: Maybe if he were a woman he'd call mor often. Camp counselors are very busy, and we don't get much time off.

Spacebabie: <<man was I beat yesterday>>: Sounds painful. <<Too tired to eat dinner>>: Only shopping for computers has that effect on me. <<ever have a turkey and cheese wrapped up in a thin pancake?>>: I had a seafood crepe the other night...not bad...but nothing phenomenal. <>: Not a very practical weapon.

Nuriko_Sar: <<first fic>>: I'll read it.

Aaron: <>: Before Diablo II, fireballs WERE mass damage spells. <<there have been times when I've used it all, and then run into something worse>>: Ah, Murphy's Law of Dungeons and Dragons. <<It slices, it dices, and it doubles as a nightlight too>>: But does it make julienne fries (sp?).

Stephen: <<apology>>: Accepted, even if it wasn't mentioned to me. Sucks about the hate mail, though. Hope you set up some mail filters.

Siofra: <>: Ah, a fellow burn victim! ;-) I, too, suffer from light skin. Once I had a tan...can't seem to figure out where it went (though I'm sure the computer monitor had something to do with the theft). <<Blew the last one out>>: I think I did that to my cousin's Wrangler when he taught me to drive stick. <>: Yeah, ditto. It'll be good to be back, though, as much fun as summer has been. <<I'll only get to see him every couple of weeks or so>>: Better than most long distance couples I know. Be grateful he's sticking around, as I'm sure he is that you are. <<my dad got his new laptop today>>: Damnit I want my new computer! <<I'm sitting in bed as I'm writing this>>: The best is using a wireless internet connection and sitting on the sofa, surfing the web, watching TV, all without cords.

DPH: <>: I know that, but why would you want to? <<my area gets Mondays off>>: Good, so you'll never have to hear the phrase "case of the mondays" and you'll have a three-day weekend every weekend! <<except for running out of RAM>>: With RAM prices what they are, that shouldn't happen either. <<there was nothing specifically written to handle speeds of 1 ghz and higher>>: Photoshop. <<Windows just wants more speed and more RAM and can't quite ever have enough>>: A operating system with good dynamic memory allocation should do exactly that. <<you can always claim that your passwords can be found by searching the letters of your post>>: Even if they bug his keyboard.

Gside's away, huh?

Well folks, I'm exhausted. I worked MacTank all night and didn't take a single call. That means no money for 6 hours. Sucks.

To deny our impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human.
-Mouse, "The Matrix"

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 03:09:56 AM
IP: ppp-206-170-217-221.nhwd02.pacbell.net

Imzadi - why do I care about what email address you used for the thespark.com's personality test? So I can look you up. YOu can look my various personalities up by typing in my email address at thespark.com's personality test. BTW, that test has been offline lately.

**WORK RELATED**
Bad news: I just found that I will be working 4 days a week for a while. The good news: I can draw unemployment for that one day I'm forced to be off. More bad news: Had I do tell that to the moron I live with and make it very clear I do NOT want to go to work with him on days I'm off.

This gives me the opportunity to see a back specialist and get all my back problems fixed as well as get counseling to become more 'normal', whatever in heck that is.

The rumor is that my area gets Mondays off.
**END WORK RELATED**

Lain - my old PC couldn't handle the newest web browsers, locking me OUT of quite a few places on the 'net. I better not run across anything that my computer can't handle for a few years, except for running out of RAM. Last time I checked, there was nothing specifically written to handle speeds of 1 ghz and higher (except Windows), right? Windows just wants more speed and more RAM and can't quite ever have enough.

No interest in the RPing in this room might spell death for the BFTS RP.

Yo, Wilek, I think you're right there lurking; otherwise, you would not have made the top 10. Please come out and join us. If the CIA is watching you, don't worry because you can always claim that your passwords can be found by searching the letters of your post.

1+1=-3
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 02:20:56 AM
IP: max1-42.cwy.cei.net

Hi everyone! Wow, it was sooooo nice up north this past week...sun, water, campfires...absolutely great. And I actually have something you could consider a tan! (damn fair skin...) Anyhow, it was great but I'm glad to be back. Really happy to come home and spend a few days in a row with my sweetie, and I get my truck back from the repair guy with a new clutch tomorrow. Blew the last one out ;) I think the most damage happened when I was learning to drive it a few years ago, its kinda tricky so it was a difficult vehicle to learn to drive a manual.
But I'm kind of sad because I just realized that I only have about a month left until I leave for school again. I got used to seeing my boyfriend so often, and now I'll only get to see him every couple of weeks or so. (I'm spoiled still, I know). I'm only about 45 minutes from home, but when you live at school, it seems like a long way. *sigh*

On the upside, my dad got his new laptop today. Totally FREE might I add ;) All of the Michigan teachers were given one and its pretty decent. It's kind of fun to toy around with...I'm sitting in bed as I'm writing this...hehehe.
Okay, gotta restart now to update some settings...
Later!
Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Michigan
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:59:15 AM
IP: pm414-22.dialip.mich.net

First off, I need to apologise... mainly to everyone, but mostly to Aaron and SJ.

I'm sorry. Might not make up for much, but it's the most I can do, along with explain what happened that got you two under the 'gun' so to speak.

I've been fighting off a major bout depression ever since my girlfriend left for Tennessee again (this time, she's gotten a job with a local gallery in Pidgeon Forge for six months)... even though we worked it out that she would be returning some time in the future. This was compounded by the fact my workshift hours increased due to some people leaving (or getting fired) from the Mc'Ds I work for...

But the trigger for my going off on first Aaron, and then SJ, was the fact that someone - I haven't gotten them identified yet - has been sending me hate mail. Hate mail that, while has been attacking me personally, it has also been sent to hamstring the bid I've been working on for G'2003. A total of four were sent, and the last was was extremely nasty. So much so that I just lashed out and sunk back into my depression, to the point I was fully set to quit alltogether. Not just gargoyles, or the fandom, or the CRs... but alltogether everything!

Granted this is going to sound like a lot of excuses, but I'm not using these as a crutch to boost myself back up again.

What's getting me straight is the fact that several people have been talking at me over ICQ and phone; most notably Hudson, the S8 admin and Abram Wintersmith. They convinced me that the shmuck thats been sending the hate mail isn't worth worrying over, or even paying attention to (though Hudson has asked me to let him know if I get any more mail... serious legal stuff lurking about there).

So, with that said, I ;eave it up to SJ and Aaron to what comes next... if you guys accept my apology or not, there's little I can do about that. Save just pick up where things fell off, dust off and just march on.

In the end, that's really all any of us can do, eh?

Maintain and Check Six...

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Monday, July 30, 2001 09:38:39 PM
IP: 65342hfc61.tampabay.rr.com

Wolfie> <> Oddly, I'm the opposite. I like big mass damage spells. (Not that I've found many of them. The Scorcher is about the best one I've got so far) But I've gotten to be kind of conservative about my magic, as there have been times when I've used it all, and then run into something worse. (BTW, is there anywhere I can pick up any more evil party members. I could really use a sixth, preferably a huge fighter type to balance the two mages and the cleric I have) <<He has the best looking weapon.>> It slices, it dices, and it doubles as a nightlight too. <<Drizzit>> Where is he? Bring him on.

Welcome to all the new people.

Baldy> <<there were some neat doodads, gizmos and thingamabobs in the box>> Um, no.

Revel> <<Scorched Earth, that was so cool.>> Yeah, it was. I'm thinking about dragging it out for nostalgia's sake. <<Too bad I lost it when the computer died.>> Just clicky my name to recover it.

lain> I'm just wondering if you've seen the scene with Vash fresh out of the shower wearing nothing but a towel yet.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, July 30, 2001 06:32:47 PM
IP: 209.33.140.102

Ahh thank you all for saying such nice things about and to me. Yes I have a good sense of humor so yeah I can take a joke here and there. Well I am going to be posting my story I guess in about two to three days so be prepared to be scared or just annoyed which ever comes first ^_^.
Well just wanna say this about the series of Gargoyles I loved the episode where they got transformed into humans uh I just adoroded it. Well hope to chat with ya gals and guys later.

Sayonnara ^_~.
Nuriko_Sar - [Ksmiley-TSroberts@woldrnet.att.com]
Glendale, AZ, USA
Monday, July 30, 2001 06:00:07 PM
IP: 129.phoenix-01rh16rt-az.dial-access.att.net

Ahh thank you all for saying such nice things about and to me. Yes I have a good sense of humor so yeah I can take a joke here and there. Well I am going to be posting my story I guess in about two to three days so be prepared to be scared or just annoyed which ever comes first ^_^.
Well just wanna say this about the series of Gargoyles I loved the episode where they got transformed into humans uh I just adoroded it. Well hope to chat with ya gals and guys later.

Sayonnara ^_~.
Nuriko_Sar - [Ksmiley-TSroberts@woldrnet.att.com]
Glendale, AZ, USA
Monday, July 30, 2001 05:59:26 PM
IP: 129.phoenix-01rh16rt-az.dial-access.att.net

Oh man was I beat yesterday. I shopped at the mall yesterday and when I returned home well, my feet hurt, I had a lower backpain and.... I was tired...Too tired to eat dinner. All I wanted to do was sink into the tub, then head off to bed, My pain was worth it...Tax Free days.

Well I did eat, first at Starbucks...Caramel Frappucino and a slice of low fat blueberry cheescake, and at the food court there was this crepe place, They had sweet crepes like with chocolate or strawberrys and meal crepes. The one I had was a Turkey and cheese, ever have a turkey and cheese wrapped up in a thin pancake? Yummers...

Babbages((Main place to buy video games))is gettin cooler! They have toys, well collectables, FF9 wallscrolls, Akira action figures Tenchi action figures, matrix and Shrek stuff and....EVA's and Gundams...

Speaking of Evas...There is this store that sells music box and musical globes. One plays "Fly me to the moon"

Baldy>>>You want a sword? Me too, I want this glowing crystal sword that was in my dream..Maybe I should draw it.

Winterwolf>>>>YES! I must have that book, must have book....

Meanwhile in Chibiland.

Squall:"Xellos is getting nowhere"
Delilah:"I wonder why."
S:"Easy Death trusts that Mazoka scum as much as I do"
D:"Just because he is different you don't trust him?"
S:"Mazokas are evil"
D:"Well what if you were turned in one?"
S:"That is impossible, will never happen"
D:"Well I'm going to see if Pest will help"
S:"Becareful Delichan Pest..is well.. a pest"

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, USA
Monday, July 30, 2001 04:40:21 PM
IP: proxy.ord.netsetter.com

*lain enters*
hey u!!!!! it seems like forever since i was in here last. i had lots of art projects to do but the class is finished now so all i have to do now is art history *groan* oh well.. could be worse ; )

warpy>> sorry about never being home when you call.. i was at work friday night, saturday all day and sunday all day. really tiring but at least im getting some much needed $$$$$$. mmmmmm $$$$$$$$$ how i love thee...... anyway, i think im going to be home tonight but im working on tuesday so.. there you go.. : )
and dont complain about my message, *I* didnt make it.. complain to my roommate.. who is never home..

aaron>> well.. ive seen the first three tapes.. which i guess means the first 9 or 10 episodes. mmmmmmmm.. vaaaaaash... *dopey grin*

re: my computer>> okay, i got one of those disney CD roms that comes in cereal, you know the kind? and i put it in my computer and it doesnt have the stuff to run it. MY COMPUTER ISNT GOOD ENOUGH TO RUN GAMES FROM A CEREAL-BOX CD ROM!!!!!! GAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!

aaaanyway.. speaking of emambu..>> awwwwwwwwwwww hes such a CUUUUUTIE!!!!!! *runs out, drags emambu back into the room, sits him in a chair and proceeds to grab his left cheek between her thumb and forefinger and make coochie coo noises*
heh heh hehhehe.... sorry.. i HAD to.. *winks at emambu, then coochie coos his cheek again, just for effect, gets a glare, and smiles innocently, returning to posts*

lynati>> okay, i DIDNT fail geography and i DO actually KNOW where liberia is in africa, thanks, but what i really wanted to know was how come all those commercials on TV for the fancy dancy "pearl harbour commemorative coin" and the "statue of liberty commemorative holographic coin" all printed by the U.S. mint are all legal tender of liberia.. cos thats just wierd..

green baron>> moochie.. that would be gunjack, also known as the moochificator, mr. mooch, moocheroo, moocheroo-bah, and moochie-gasmoochie. in case you were wondering.. and you all thought he was a tough guy.. ; )

and yes, moochie is being a counsellor at camp. he was supposed to call me LAST WEDNESDAY and he hasnt done that yet.. and its almost been a week so.. im assuming he doesnt love me anymore and ill just sulk in the corner and find myself a rebound boyfriend... though i was thinking that i might find myself an ethnically-opposite girlfriend of some sort.. just to freak out my dad even more.. hmmmm....
stupid moochie. (im writing this just so when he reads it, hell have a BIG guilt trip and call me. heck, his MOTHER called me yesterday and we had a loverly chat. but does HE call?? noooooo... what a jerk, eh?)
; )

sj>> britains been spelling stuff funny for lots of years longer than you guys.. and we spell like them..
and yes, we get southpark up here, and lots of people really love it - ESPECIALLY the making-fun-of-canadians part. ive never seen it, though.. no wait, THATS A LIE!!! i think i saw half an episode where jesus was boxing with the devil but that was yeaaaaaars ago so im not too sure..
yes, and my own personal jesus was 10 feet tall, 6 feet wide and i got a whole lot of really wierd looks while carrying it down the street at 9pm......

josh>> i left such a long message cos.. you know what its like when you get nervous and you just start talking and machines make me nervous, especially answering machines though computers dont really make me nervous - and you just kinda keep talking and you forget what you weretalkingaboutandeverythingjustkindastarts runningtogetherandtheresnotreallymuchyoucando? yeah.. kinda like that..

i think im seeing "legally blonde" this afternoon with mr. dude. huzzah. then im writing an essay about cave paintings in lascaux. joy of all joys : D

love,
lain "hello.. navy...." iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Monday, July 30, 2001 01:28:19 PM
IP: dbwref010.lib.uwo.ca

Wow, I'm so tired I can't find "white" for the color on my post ... oh, wait, there it is. But now I've forgotten what I wanted to say. Called in sick tonight because I've had headaches all weekend. Stress. Eee. Anyway, cheers and toodles and maybe I'll have something coherent to say tomorrow.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, July 30, 2001 02:06:39 AM
IP: 10-092.075.popsite.net

Okay I'm back.

At 6:15 this morning, I dragged myself out of bed and drove my brother to camp, roughly 150 miles north of me. Why, you are asking yourself, did I do this? Well, there are many answers to that question. The first is that I get to drive my dad's X5 for 5 hours with all my own music. While that may not seem like such a big deal, let me say that those mountain roads in the Southern Sierras were never as much fun in my Jeep.

Another reason is the camp itself. I was a camper at this camp from ages 6 to 15, then a CIT, then a full counselor last summer. I did most of my real maturing (the little of it that exists) at this place and its got a special nostalgic location in my heart. The people there are awesome and many of them are friends I've had for years. So it was awesome to see them again.

I set a new land speed record driving up there, taking just 2 hours and 10 minutes (supposedly its "3 hours with a stop" my parents say...slowpokes). My brother got his clothes moved to his bunk and I checked him in the forms, then went around to say hi to bunch of staff members that I knew.

I got many "hey Josh, why aren't you a counselor this summer" questions from staff and campers alike (the answer, of course, is that I just bought myself a G4 tower and my bro an iMac...something a summer at camp never would have paid for). I also found out that my ex-girlfriend (who I met last summer while I was a counselor there) was there earlier and apparently talked way too much about me (which I find insulting, embarassing, and rude; I shall have to have words with her).

Anyway, I stayed through lunch and helped with the dishes because I could. I wished more than anything that I could stay, but it just wasn't in the cards for this summer. Perhaps some other year, but I'm thinking (and it worries me greatly) that its a part of my life I'll never participate in again. Summers are starting to be taken over by things like summer school, internships, research, jobs, etc, and all I want to do is play.

Its times like these that I wish my parents were rich enough that I could do whatever I wanted for a living and their funds would keep me afloat. Granted, dependency on your parents isn't the greatest thing in the world, but every time I drove up to camp for a summer I'd know I was doing the right thing.

I had dinner with my grandparents tonight. Only two 70-somethings could turn a dinner into a two hour affair. Not that I don't like being with them...but they need to know when enough is enough. You can't hold your family hostage just because you're paying the check.

In other news, I got inspired for a new direction for my fic by the lyrics of "Down with the Sickness" by Disturbed. Read the first couple verses, and I'm sure you'll figure out what I see when I hear it. Now all I need is some actual writing time.

Okay enough reminiscing. Replies!

Fire Storm: <<the most pirated software in existance is Microsofts Intellipoint software>>: That'll teach them to ship their stupid mice all over the place! <<3 HD's, 2 DVD drives, a burner and a Zip drive (Only because I didn't have another HD or DVD drive!>>: On the Mac, we can't name drives (other than HD's), only disks. Nonetheless, I named my burner "Hudson" because its old, fat, and doesn't work right. <<Did you ever say good morning to it?>>: What do you think the voice passcode was? <<The Lite version is $100 and the full student version is $250>>: Do you know if either of those support plug-ins? <<"What Ifs" about the arms and space race>>: Interesting.

Baldy: <>: Don't suppose getting you one would help my world domination any? <>: Good, because if you did I'd happily execute you. <<if you've nuked the Federal Reserve Bank, and the US economy has plummeted into oblivion>>: I'm going to Disneyland! <<he/she is from Arizona>>: Only Canadians can use their homeland as an excuse for retardism. <>: That's some nasty fungus.

DPH: <<Why should I spend money buying an anti-virus program when I can get my harddrive scanned for viruses for FREE? housecall.antivirus.com>>: What part of "Get program XYZ" sounds like "spend money"? ;-) <<what email address did you use when you took that personality test?>>: God I have no idea. Why?

Star Wyvern: Okay, here's some comments for you: PROOFREAD. I don't know who does your proofreading, but some of your stories look like you learned english from someone who once took an ESL class. Typos and grammar errors run rampant in your stories. It makes it very hard to read. The content, however, is fine.

I lump all authors who don't take the time to proofread their work in the "these authors are a disgrace" category. Its one thing if you don't intend anyone to read it. But if you put your fics into an archive or newsletter of some sort: PROOFREAD IT!

Revel: <<yes I am talking to myself>>: Don't let us stop you! <>: If we waited till we had something intelligent to say to post, the CR would consist of the top ten and that's it.

Sorow: <<I'm almost 19>>: Well then you get points over Dreamie for being legal ;-) <<So we really don't have anything to connect with>>: I understand the feeling.

Lynati: <<there is quite enough umm..."unpolished" work in the archive>>: There shouldn't be any in the archive. Posted works should be at least proofread. <>: I loved that fic. <<the CR...when you're too lazy to use email>>: If we emailed all these silly responses to each other, our mailboxes would be full and the CR would be empty. Then again if the email convo I've been having with Niamhgold was moved to CR, my posts would be twice as long. <<GOLIATH as Dorothy>>: Ya know, I just don't think he'd look good in drag. <<Brooklyn as the scarecrow>>: But he DOES have a brain. <<Broadway as the cowardly lion>>: And he DOES have courage. <<Lex as the tin man>>: I dunno if he has a heart or not... ;-)

Okay folks, its early but I'm exhausted and I have work tomorrow. Adios.

You’re Satan, aren’t you?
-Gene Siskel, “The Critic”

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Monday, July 30, 2001 01:25:26 AM
IP: ppp-206-170-217-203.nhwd02.pacbell.net

*Enters*

SOROW: just wondering- what part of the country are you in?

Nuriko Sar: <fanfics> ahh, good for you! IMO, there is quite enough umm..."unpolished" work in the archive. When you feel your work is good enough, post it. I'll be waiting.

Star Wyvern: I'm currently going throught the archive alphabetically; if I missed your stories during my random readings, I'll get them this time. eventually. I'm at #178 (Kat W.) right now. That reminds me...

Hey, Kali Gargoyle, if you happen to be lurking out there...I want another one of those fics like the type where you left Brooklyn turned neon pink! c'mon, let's have em!
ahh, the CR...when you're too lazy to use email... ;)

Imzadi, Warpmind, Patrick Toman : Not a story, just a picture. ...and the juxtaposition of the two ideas was deliberate. Not Angela; not Elisa. GOLIATH. GOLIATH as Dorothy!! ...Brooklyn as the scarecrow, Broadway as the cowardly lion, and Lex as the tin man. Bronx out in front of them, snarling at the Wicked Demon of the West. ;)
If anyone actually wants to write a fic of this idea, go right ahead.

Aaron: heh...queen of wolves just started posting in the other CR. And no, not giant disk related. I'll send you the first bit at least...considering the second bit concerns events in RL that haven't actually happened yet...okay, so maybe I just wanted an excuse to write myself in to something else wearing *the* outfit. I'm obsessive; so sue me. :) Oh, and for my bit of randomness...
I now know the *names* of all 105 kids that 7 of the Galatean females had during the course of their seven breeding seasons. Makes me wonder what the *total* number of offspring is going to be by 2060, if just 7 of the 38 produced 105...

ah. later.
*Gone*
Lynati Kshudra - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Sunday, July 29, 2001 11:22:36 PM
IP: 207.226.219.108

Josh> I'm almost 19. But I don't really ever talk to my brothers. I was only starting middle school when the eldest moved away and my other brother just got married. So we really don't have anything to connect with.
SOROW
Sunday, July 29, 2001 10:51:15 PM
IP: a010-0034.dll2.splitrock.net

Oops hit that button a little quick there.

Shadowrider- Well The ultimate of all happy Birthday's, I'll remember for next year.

Josh- Hey, I can't think of anything intelegent to say so I'll just say... hey (Pathetic, I know)

Warp the Bald- It sounds more regal that way. Hey have you ever played Scorched Earth, that was so cool. Too bad I lost it when the computer died.

"If this is the end, then what happens next?"
-one of those questions that someone says that makes you slap your face-
later
Revel
Sunday, July 29, 2001 04:46:21 PM
IP: ac976918.ipt.aol.com

Sunday is a time to relax, until you got to work that is, but I was up at seven just getting to work, so now, I want to sleep. Actually I need to do some writing. and yes I am talking to myself despite the raised eyebrows that you are giving me. At least it was not my car that died today, it was Corey's, but it's okay, he was at lunch.

Star Wyvern- Yours are the ones where Brooklyn is called Manawar and he's the leader of the Society, right. They're pretty cool I've several of them, kinda freaky at parts like where Sevarius was cutting old Brook's chest open. (shudders) What do you have in mind?
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Sunday, July 29, 2001 04:40:14 PM
IP: ac976918.ipt.aol.com

hey all!
how ya doin? well i read this all the time, and actually I was like the last one of post anything on last weeks and It got erased when it reloaded like three minutes later so no one ever saw it. but i'm posting to say that i was hoping, if any of you read my stuff, that maybe you could tell me something. I need your opinion on two ideas. they're a fork in the story, i could go either ways. well... it doesn't make sense unless you've read my stuff so i wont just say it. But if any of you have read mine, they're under the same name as I'm posting here as, tell me. I REALLY need some help from my peirs. well Yota all! *poofles*
Star Wyvern - [Shella Ogden]
Sunday, July 29, 2001 04:07:55 PM
IP: 1cust192.tnt39.chi5.da.uu.net

I guess I should consider myself priviledged or seriously screwed. Why? I got sent the same email virus I mentioned last week from 4 complete strangers so far.

Imzadi - Why should I spend money buying an anti-virus program when I can get my harddrive scanned for viruses for FREE? housecall.antivirus.com

I'll probably shell out the $40 for that software, considering how much money I am willing to shell out money to buy MS Visual Studio. Otherwise, I'm a hypocrite.

Imzadi - You explained part of the reason I do want to visit a CR member: to collaborate at least part of what I am saying online.

It's taking a while to update the files for housecall.antivirus.com to scan my HD. Maybe it's because it's been a while since I scanned my HD for viruses.

Did anybody notice Wilek posted in the top 10? Wilek's lurking for now, apparantly, unless you want to prove me wrong.

1+1=-3

55 files to update for the anti-virus scan and counting.

Damn, thespark.com's personality test is temporarily down. Imzadi - what email address did you use when you took that personality test?

82 files and counting.

**WARNING**
Have you noticed the lack of RP in this room? Do you want to help bring back RP into this CR? If so, please speak up.
**END WARNING**

94 files and counting.

Alright, I finished downloading the update files and now my PC is being scanned for viruses for FREE.

Haha. just finished 6,220 total files. No viruses detected.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, July 29, 2001 04:06:21 PM
IP: max1-52.cwy.cei.net

Thanks and stay well Shadowrider! I'll be sure to keep some time open next week.
Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Sunday, July 29, 2001 02:48:19 PM
IP: adsl-141-155-117-230.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Time to leave again. Only until next Friday, though. I am quite sure this time, except for catastrophic events...

Slow weekend, too...not so much to reply...oh well.

Winterwolf:> Thanks for the congratulations <blushes> A whole base? Hmmm...well, a week or two for the Battery...a month, more or less...;)
Sorry we couldn't catch, I had some friends to see before leaving. Next time will try for sure! See you soon, my friends, and please say hello for me to your sweet and beautiful girlfriend.

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel:> <<Or you'd have to kill us, right?>> Naahh...well, I've been told it is better not to speak too much of what I did in Genova for the G8 (here, I said it) and of what I've seen there, but I have not been expressedly ORDERED to deny or to say nothing...but, as I said, it was not a merry weekend, and I really feel no pleasure in remembering what has happened. I am sorry if I sound unkind, but...well...that's how I feel.

Alright, nothing more for now. See you all Friday!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Sunday, July 29, 2001 02:26:35 PM
IP: h255-22-168.mi2.albacom.net

Josh Wurzel: <<far better than JP3!> Um, does that mean you liked it?> Do you want the answer in Ape, 'Raptor, or 'Dactyl? :) I loved JP3, but found _PLANET OF THE APES_ to be even better {particularly for a gargs fan like me}.

Warpedmind: <does it matter?> Yes, actually - I was hoping to put them in a historical-based story of mine, and put the source of the information in the Dedication.

Rodlox
Sunday, July 29, 2001 11:52:24 AM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

*Warpmind enters, grinning from ear to ear.*
Hoohoohoo! D2X is getting better all the time! You can pick your hired goons' equipment, and, when you die, you can have them RESURRECTED! Yay! At last, all that experience isn't lost after all! :D

Rodlox: Hmmm... what does it matter? I mean, I just want a Big Honkin' Sword(TM) for my own inscrutable purposes. (Mostly for posterity, I guess.) Polearms are so... cumbersome, on the whole. AND they're easy to block or dodge, relatively speaking.

Aaron: So you actually paid for Doom 2... *Sigh* Just when you think you know everything about someone, he turns out to have done something so stupid... just kidding. };) Actually, I suppose there were some neat doodads, gizmos and thingamabobs in the box, to make up for it, huh? :) (Do note: I see a clear difference between buying Doom 2 and Final Doom, which consists of two 32-level episodes on the Doom2 engine...)

Winterwolf: Trust me on this: The Expansion Pack does WONDERS to revive interest in Diablo 2. I, too, was pretty much burnt out on D2, but now... *Grin* I have about a half-dozen games I SHOULD be testing, fics to write, RPG material to work on... but all that is being de-prioritized right now... And I can't WAIT to get my hands on one of the new item sets, or runes, or... *Slobbers happily.* As for my preference as far as nicknames go... no preference. Both are amusing. And a bit cute. I'll answer to both. ;)

Nuriko_Sar: Welcome.

Josh: I do not answer to "Mr. Gates", but really, if you've nuked the Federal Reserve Bank, and the US economy has plummeted into oblivion... well, my question still stands. Oh, and don't give Nuriko_Sar a hard time for saying "Lexie". Remember, he/she is from Arizona. };) (THAT WAS A JOKE! I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ARIZONA!)

Fire Storm: Sick joke? E-mail. Now. };)

Well, that about concludes my post. I have to go mow the kitchen floor, then vacuum it, then mom will wash it before she and dad go on vacation... and then I can get back to D2X. :D Later on, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, July 29, 2001 08:01:50 AM
IP: mp-217-201-105.daxnet.no

Ok, I was just on CNN.com and I found this article. It basicailly has a few "What Ifs" about the arms and space race.

REALLY cool!
Fire Storm - [<--- COOL What if's]
Sunday, July 29, 2001 03:59:46 AM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Warpmind: <Microsoft may be in the top 5, but the single most pirated piece of software through all time, I think, would still be Doom 2, right?>
Surprisingly, the most pirated software in existance is Microsofts Intellipoint software.
And hey, I got Doom 2 as a Christmas present!
<I've got an appointment with a cue and ten balls>
::whimper:: must... hold back... INCREDIBLY sick joke!

Lynati: <#163 by my count...is JEB>
Cool! That still gives me time to update my stories! Joy! ;)

Imzadi: <Is that more or less trouble than just reinstalling the OS?>
If OS =< Win98, then less
<Cool names. You have 5 HD's?>
3 HD's, 2 DVD drives, a burner and a Zip drive (Only because I didn't have another HD or DVD drive!)
<My first PC was "Dave">
Did you ever say good morning to it?
<For my own edification, what are they?>
Scheduler. It works decently. At least it can run my scandisk and defrag... when I leave my computer on.

Few can justify it. The Lite version is $100 and the full student version is $250
<You could be like the guy in "The Net" that collects them on floppies>
Yeah, but all i got are these crappy little VBS virus's
<Is that because you remember all the email addy's of people, store them somewhere else, or just have no friends?>
I just search my inbox. Or the CR.
<those caffeine tabs taste godawful>
Pop one or two in a pop, juice or crush it and sprinkle it on a chocolate bar.
OH! OH! SNORT it! YEAH! ;)
<probably to ward off addiction>
Caffeine in it's purist form tastes like crap, so you are probally just tasting the caffeine.
Addiction sucks, dosn't it? The headaches...
Fire Storm - [jeremycbcd@usa.net]
Sunday, July 29, 2001 03:37:57 AM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Hey folks!

Never thought I'd be so happy to be home, but after being connected to the internet for the last 12 hours at a BLAZING 56k/sec FOR FREE, I'm a very happy boy.

We left the cabin yesterday at around noon and had lunch at an inn about 20 minutes west of the lake. It was pretty good and the views surrounding the restaurant were beautiful. After an interesting event where my SOMEONE's credit card was declined (apparently the card company doesn't like people calling from cell phones inquiring about your account balance and credit limit) we were on our way back to sunny Los Angeles.

Four hours later we stopped at Harris Ranch for dinner. For those of you who've never had the, uh, pleasure, of going to Harris Ranch, let me describe it. Its a huge inn and restaurant in the middle of California (about 2.5 hours north of LA) owned by a multi-millionaire cattle rancher. The cattle ranch, is 20 minutes north of the inn. So when we stopped for dinner and the winds were blowing south, we discovered a most interesting smell. The smell of cow @$$. We hurried inside (where a three-door system with airlocks keeps the cow stench out) and ate. Well, my family ate. I missed most of the meal because I was trying to register for classes.

Registering for classes at UC Berkeley is only somewhat more orderly than the war scene at the beginning of "Gladiator". Every student gets two specific dates and times for registration based on year, previous semester's grades (better grades, earlier registration), major, etc. During the first date, which occurs shortly before the semester ends, you can only register for 10 units (about 2.5 classes). During the second date, you can register for everything else. In theory, this allows everyone to at least get a few of their choices, prevents all the classes from filling up immediately, etc. In reality, the crowded classes stay that way and people with later dates (like sophomores) get the shaft. Which is fine by me, since I'm a junior with a 3.5. I get to register "early". Anyway, my second date was yesterday. At 6:20PM. While I was on the road. So I was registering for classes by on a calling card phone call to Berkeley from the middle of California. Its a completely automated system, where you need to know the "course control numbers" of the lecture AND the discussion/lab/whatever you're trying to enroll in.

I needed to sign up for 2 classes (the other 3 were taken care of during my first sign-up date in May). I got into the Civil Engineering class with no problem. The math class, however, was particularly critical. This is the math class I dropped last semester because it was at 8AM. Not only is this class a graduation requirement, but its pretty much a prereq for all the classes I'm trying to take this semster. So without it, I'm pretty much lost (not that prereqs are in any way strict at Berkeley, but the knowledge gained in them is useful). Unfortunately, I discovered that someone had changed the course numbers of the math class I needed to take, and my number was no longer valid. And I had no idea what the new number was. The only way to find out was to get online. I ran to the hotel check in desk and asked if they had a courtesy phone I could use for net access...they didn't.

So my registration for my math class was delayed by 3 hours until I got home. Fortunately, I was able to get in with no trouble. That means that this is the first semester in 2 years where I got into all my classes with no problems, no waiting lists, etc. This also makes me a very happy boy.

After that, we spent some time unpacking, watching Stargate SG-1, and sorting through mail. I finally got billed for my DSL (I didn't get billed last month, and I was concerned that they'd turned it off and would now be charging me $10 more per month when they turned it back on).

Then I went online and tried to catch up with everything that'd happened and download everything that had become available in the last two weeks that I couldn't download in Tahoe because I was being billed by the minute for access.

Helped my brother pack for camp (I get to drive him up tomorrow in my dad's X5!) today. Our CD changer will have the following CD's: Disturbed "The Sickness", Less Than Jake "Hello Rockview", Red Hot Chili Peppers "Californication" and the three CD's of camp music that I want to listen to for nostalgia purposes. Worked tonight, took a whopping ONE call in 6 hours of work. I hate when that happens. I emailed my boss and told him I'd only consider continuing to work with an hourly wage.

Replies!

Lain: Got your message. Thanks for calling. Question: if you hate answering machines so much, why'd you sit there and talk to mine for about 4 minutes?

FS: <<PKZIP the entire Windows directory (subs and all) from a good PC, transfer it to the bad one, put PKUNZIP for DOS on the PC, drop down to DOS, DELTREE the Windows directory, then PKUNZIP the good Windows>>: Is that more or less trouble than just reinstalling the OS? <<drives named Bob, Dot, Enzo, Hexidecimal, Megabyte and Friskit>>: Cool names. You have 5 HD's? <<But I call it HAL>>: My first PC was "Dave". <<AND I HAVE SEEN THEM! I even have the satelite photos to prove it!>>: There's a word for people who think everyone is after them: perceptive. <<There are. In fact, Windows includes it>>: For my own edification, what are they? <<Another top 5er is Adobe>>: I can't imagine paying $600 for photoshop. I MIGHT be willing to shell out $200 for some student lite edition, but only if I were making a small fortune per year. <<it is always nice to have a few just incase someone really pisses you off>>: You could be like the guy in "The Net" that collects them on floppies. <>: Is that because you remember all the email addy's of people, store them somewhere else, or just have no friends?

Baldy: <<those caffeine tabs taste godawful>>: Try Jolt. <<probably to ward off addiction>>: What if you're already addicted to caffeine in another form? <<there are probably *some* normal-seeming people here, but... who would that be?>>: When hanging around normals, I appear very normal. Or so I'm told...by normals. <<having all the trace metals in your body torn out through the pores>>: Personally, I wouldn't want ANYTHING ripped out through my pores, but that's just me. <<why'd you want access to the stuff in the Federal Reserve Bank?>>: If you have to ask this question, you obviously live in Washington and answer to "Mr. Gates". <<find someone who actually went out and PAID for Doom 2>>: I know a guy. <<I've got an appointment with a cue and ten balls>>: Just remember: Be the Ball.

Patrick: <>: Its not that exciting. If their countries were so great, billions of them wouldn't be trying to come here. ;-) <<what male Trek fan can resist the chance to see the annual "Miss Klingon Empire Beauty Pageant"?>>: I can. <<I'm working on a design for some articulated wings... finally I'm able to put my engineering degree to use in my hobbies>>: AWESOME! How articulated? Are we talking fully positionable by remote control or like wires on the belt or what? <>: For me, its not the computer I call inappropriate names. Its the companies for the programs. I've got some really creative names for microsoft... <<Angela and the Trio>>: Too predictable.

Rodlox: <<Planet of the Apes>>: Sounds cool. <<far better than JP3!>>: Um, does that mean you liked it?

Shadowrider: <>: Or you'd have to kill us, right?

Kyryn: <<but at least I haven't had an erupting volcano to deal with>>: Doesn't that just ruin your whole day?

Spacebabie: <<Stupid idiots who don't know how to vote>>: If they were rocket scientists, they'd be republicans. <<Gveing Florida a bad image!>>: As if the big golf ball wasn't enough. <<Sounds like your having a great vacation>>: As vacations go, it was pretty good. I missed my connection, though. But I'll recover...by tonight.

Lynati: <<lyric sites so I don't have to repeatedly listen to songs in order to type up the words>>: When I add lyrics to my fic, its usually by memory...otherwise I just pop the cd in. I don't mind listening to my own music 8-) <<were you not in the room during the VA's panel>>: Obviously, I missed that. I now wish I hadn't. <>: How about a chicken farm? <<Goliath in drag>>: I'm sure he'd fill out a dress better than many girls I know. <<Demona in a big pointy hat yelling, "I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, too!">>: But can you see Elisa carrying Bronx in a little basket? Naturally, Broadway would play the scarecrow, Coldstone would play the tin man, and I think Talon would make a good lion. Lex would be a great wizard (pay no attention to the scrawny gargoyle behind the curtain!) while the actual "face" of the wizard would be Xanatos. Fox could play the dead witch and Diane could be the good witch...that leaves Owen to play the midget at the gates of Emerald City (which would, of course, be replaced by the Eyrie).

Daniel: <>: I swear, I'd forget my head if it wasn't attached 8-) <<Was it that obvious? I was trying to keep it down>>: Heh, you failed. ;-) <<will probably wait until it comes with 10.1>>: Why? You can always download it. <<And a Radeon to a GeForce 3>>: I'm getting a geForce 2, there by quadrupling my VRAM...I just can't justify spending an extra $250 on a GeForce 3 when the most intensive thing I do graphics-wise is play starcraft and make 128x128 icons.

Winterwolf: <<Why isn't it Sunday already?>>: Because you haven't learned how to warp space time around you yet (translation: you're not fat enough). <<But did his father smell of eldeberries?>>: Probably. <<shouldn't it be hamster?>>: Quiet or I'll turn you into a newt. <<Well that's why the butterfly, conspiring with Moochie as it is his fault really, got that bee to fly in your mouth>>: Bastards. <<The only down side to having good computers is I keep getting people bugging me to fix theirs>>: I feel your pain. Look how many people bug me to fix their silly windows problems. <<Well I heard you but you're only one state away>>: I heard and I'm 3000 miles away 8-) <>: Would that be better or worse than straight up LSD? Cheaper? <<how long before you are in charge of an entire base?>>: NEWS FLASH: This just in folks, an accounting error in Germany led to the invasion of a small base in Italy, leaving only one First Corporal surviving. The First Corporal is being awarded the purple heart for bravely defeating the German forces singlehandedly. <>: Like you need a GAME to be fireball-happy! <<So which do you prefer? Baldy or Fuzzy?>>: Which ever one he picks, do we call him the other?

Gside: Ya know, I really wish you wouldn't post in that color. Drives me nuts (short trip, I know). <>: Where does that put me, with my designs on world domination and Greg, with his designs on a new political party that will dominate the globe? <<But you didn't get the bit about binary>>: Of course I did. I just didn't mention it ;-) <<there are many other fantasies involved>>: So I'm just a sex object. Um...I shouldn't be complaining about that, should I? <<We don't need to do anything, apart from just stop him entering the room>>: No. Make sure 'e doesn't leave this room. <>: Huh? <<As am I. Hey, wait...>>: Heh, heh. <<Keep the beat up, why, I'm gonna turn your heat up>>: No, I think I just want to ride my bicycle. <>: Probably. We're talking a pretty powerful electromagnet here.

Archwolf: <>: That's what we're here for. That, and making dirty jokes in subtle ways that don't violate the PG-13 rating. <>: in my opinion, the best defense against a long range weapons is a LONGER range weapon 8-) <>: I think he's a twit because I read his books. <<Why does believing in something make you brainwashed?>>: That's not it. Its the way you're led to believe in it. I took an intro air force class, we watched a lot of recruitment videos. Those things are packed with subliminal and between-the-lines messages about how great it is to be in the military. Not that I don't think the military is an admirable career. But I think that blind devotion to ANYTHING is foolish. <<Squiggy, Go F*ck Yourself>>: A fellow Californicator? ;-)

Sorow: <<Both are older. One is 24 and the other is 22. I'm the baby>>: And you're 17, right? That's about the age diff between me and my bro. Do you get along with them at all?

DPH: <<yep, you win those cybercookies>>: Maybe I should try my hand at "Win Ben Stein's Money". <<Have you taken thespark.com 's personality test?>>: Probably. But I need to go look again to see what you're talking about. <<Yep there's a reason why I am asking>>: I was expecting it to be a random question ;-) <>: They want you to feel safe and secure so they can nab you when you talk about world domination. <>: LOL. <<The time I'm really stressed occur when I deal with my dad the most>>: I know the feeling. <<I'm too kind deep down to intentially AND seriously harm someone>>: You need more friends like me, closer to you. <>: My roommate's program got 5 cows from tucows. He was so happy. It was the most prestigious award he's won for it. <>: Still a waste of money. Doesn't Norton have a built-in timer? It does on Mac.

Star Wyvern: I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the only comments that get made in here about stuff that shows up in the GFW is when pistoff is yelling at Patrick and Kathy because he doesn't like "Madame Destine". Oh, and I haven't read your stuff.

Stephen: Oh, stow it.

I'm tired of this self-deprecating behavior in the CR. None of you are worthless or unloved or whatever other bad things you may think about yourself. You're just depressed. While I feel your pain and know what you're going through, you people need to get over yourselves sometimes. A few of you in particular have a real penchant for becoming "drama kings/queens" and making us all pay attention to you. If you don't have anything more valuable to say then "I am garbage" then don't bother posting. We're friends in here. Posting is for conversation, telling each other about what's going on in your lives, and on rare occasions, talking about gargoyles. No need to grandstand about ANYTHING. At least when I'm depressed or upset about something I have the decency to explain it and move on.

Shauntell Holm: <<M.R. Mack>>: Never met the guy.

SJ: <<Jesus f'ing Christ, I'm tired of this>>: We really ARE the same person! <<I'll save the pleasantries>>: Just out of curiosity, have you ever given us the pleasantries? <<Don't make me the scapegoat because it's convenient>>: How else would you choose a scapegoat? <<I'd expect others in this CR to take the easy way out and blame me for everything that's wrong with the CR>>: Well, sh*t. If its your fault, they're not far from blaming me... ;-)

Jaden: <<they LOVE Americans over there>>: Again, if their country was so great, they wouldn't all be trying to come here ;-)

Aaron: <<I’ve got two myself>>: No wonder you were able to live through a demona tatoo. <<we all just drive like that normally>>: Well then ya'll better stop driving in my state before I nuke yer @$$es. <<They were supposed to>>: So I'm told. <<But at least they’re vast tracts>>: Of latex, apparently. <>: If not, I'm not interested. <<Used once, never opened. Slightly stained>>: Heh, heh. <<does that count?>>: I don't think so.

Nuriko_Sar: <<Lexie>>: I think calling him that is punishable by death.

Well folks I gotta be up in 6 hours to drive for 3 so I'm gonna crash. See ya tomorrow!

Activate SLAVE GIRLS. Fondle SLAVE GIRLS. Activate SLAVE GIRLS.
-SimShatner (with the help of Mike Margolis and Maneesh Goel)

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Sunday, July 29, 2001 03:04:12 AM
IP: ppp-206-170-217-180.nhwd02.pacbell.net

um, I'm not really a regular of the gargoyles fanfictions anymore, but I still read the ones i've downloaded. Many of them have come from the TGS websight and other fanfic posting areas. I'v just checked your chat posting tonight on the 28th of July and I noticed that on the 28th, stephan sobotka was feeling bad about himself. I dont know any of you and you dont know me, but I did read all the fanfics posted by a person with a similar name of Steven sobotka or something like that about 3 years ago. One of that series was two-foxtrot-garg. The mainc charachters wher Brooklyn and his pilot friend (name escapes me right now). Anyway, if it is who I think it is, I wanted to let him know that he is an exilent writer and his work is my favorit fanfics of all! sry for any spelling mistakes.
Bryce - [flameboy78@netscape.net]
Sunday, July 29, 2001 02:34:41 AM
IP: c466281-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com

Hi everyone kinda new to gargoyles but I must say I am starting to love it. I have writtin two fanficz but I think they are a bit I don't know just not that good to post up yet. OH and I just wanted to Add Lexie is my Favortie and Brooklyn and Thailog come in close second while Broadway and Goliath come in third.

Well just wanted to say hi and hope one day I can be as good as some of you and I wish you all the best of luck and hope. Sayonnara! ^_~
Nuriko_Sar - [Ksmiley-TSroberts@woldrnet.att.com]
Glendale, AZ, USA
Sunday, July 29, 2001 01:53:05 AM
IP: 212.phoenix-02rh16rt-az.dial-access.att.net

Tomorrow is a very special day. I get normal amount of Dreamie time! ^_^ Hurray!

Shadowrider> Maybe if you have time Sunday we can get a moment for chatting and catching up. <promotion> First, congratulations First Corporal! So, how long before you are in charge of an entire base? At this point I expect nothing less. ;) <birthday> Ah ha! Your birthday is June 10. That's what I thought. :)

Aaron> <Spare mages are always good. I've got two myself.> I know I use a minimum of two mages in most RPGs. Bauldur's Gate was one of them. I admit I tend to be fireball happy or whatever the big mass damage spell is that I can use to wipe out enemies fast. <Xan> He has the best looking weapon. <evil characters> Oh the best thing for evil characters is to fight and beat Drizzit. He's one of the toughest fights in the game. But if you do kill him it's worth it for magical goodies. :D

Warpmind> <Diablo2 expansion> Diablo2 lost its thrill for me a while back. I'm interested in the expansion but I think I ;ll just listen to hear reports from you and anyone else that mentions them for the time being. <fuzzy> So which do you prefer? Baldy or Fuzzy? ;)

Dreamie> I love you and miss you and if I keep on going I'll go past PG13... **pounces, kisses, cuddles, nuzzles, snuggles and more when you return**

That's all for now.

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Sunday, July 29, 2001 01:36:13 AM
IP: adsl-141-155-118-107.nyc.adsl.bellatlantic.net

Lynati> Oh, I just saw someone bidding on gargs stuff, and the name made me think of you. If it was you, I wasn’t going to bid against, but since it’s not... Fair game. And I got Keys. I’m converting it to Wordpad so I can read it at home right now. <<guess what...>> Hmmm, thinking, thinking. Something about a huge demonic disk opening in the sky? (Whatever it is, either email it to me, or call me, and I'll share the piece that fell into place last night) I've been awake since four this morning, when I bounced out of bed, couldn't find Diane in the dark, and had to get up and pace around the house talking to my invisible audience so I wouldn't forget anything.

Niamhgold> <<Why haven't they turned it into a cartoon yet?>> I thought they were.

Stephen> I’m sorry, I don't know what's going on with tonight's post, but it doesn't change the fact that I find your statement farcical. I'm not trying to cr@p on you, I just don't understand where you're coming from. Because I don’t work for SquareSoft, I can’t say that FF:TSW had *nothing* going for it except flashy graphics? If I go to a restaurant that has bad food and poor service, am I not allowed to complain because I’m not a chef or a waiter? If I buy a car that’s a lemon, can I not say that it is a lemon because I’m not an automotive engineer? That’s ridiculous. I may not be any of those things, but I am the only thing I need to be to voice my opinions on anything. I am a PAYING CUSTOMER. And if I pay for a product that is substandard, then I have every right to say that it is substandard, and to steer others away from that substandard product. And to boycott that company’s products until their quality is improved. Basic free-market economy.

And while I may not work in the animation industry, like the rest of the entertainment industry, it is guided by one simple thing: The bottom line. And that, Stephen, is something we consumers control.

I’m sorry you don’t like to hear negative feedback. But it exists, and it’s a fact of life. Life is not positive all the time. In fact, it’s not positive a great deal of the time. And that’s just the way it is.

What’s that quote you like, Baldy? “Ninety-five percent of anything is dreck. But oh, that other five percent...”

Geez, you act like I never like anything...

Wolfie> <<Though when moving, even one is one too many.>> Amen.

Gside> <<Never picked him up>> To bad. He’s funny. Of course, he’s forever trying to get himself killed, from what I’ve seen when my brother plays. <<only needed myself for a mage.>> Spare mages are always good. I’ve got two myself. <<You should have stayed on his good side.>> But I’m evil. And I’d already been hired by Eddie to kill the woman Minsc wants me to rescue.

Josh> << this idiot Texan who I swear was driving under the influence of something>> Nah, we all just drive like that normally. <<does anyone else thing that the human versions of Lex, Brooklyn, and maybe even Broadway look just a bit (a tiny bit) like their voice talents?>> They were supposed to. <<I've got a one_track mind. Or two, as it were>> But at least they’re vast tracts. <> There is a real Coyote Ugly bar in NYC. I don't know if it really has the waitresses dancing on the bar tho'. <<And if at first you don't succeed, I'd advise against skydiving.>> For sale: One parachute. Used once, never opened. Slightly stained.

Baldy> <<Mara gets the Jone shirt, and you the Gore shirt?>> Well, that's the plan anyway. Unless I need a new costume for G2K2... <<does it come with the original fillings?>> Sadly, no. Or at least, I assume not. You'd think shipping would cost more, if it did. <<find someone who actually went out and PAID for Doom 2.)>> (Raises hand, sheepishly) I bought it at WalMart for like five bucks, does that count?

(Elsewhere)

Xellos-kun has been leading the other chibis in a merry chase, looking for the chimera. Eventually, he comes to a sudden halt in front of Death's desk, where the depressive clone seems to be working through yet another fic with a highlighter marker.

"Hello, Deathy!" the Mazouko cries. "S-sama seems to have misplaced her dear Zel-kun, and his trail ends right around here. Seen him?"

"No." the clone replies without looking up.

"Are you sure?"

"Yes. Now leave me alone, I have a lot of work to do, and you're blocking my light." (Props his feet on the desk and ignores Xel)

"Hmmm." The trickster priest turns away, muttering "pale kopii" under his breath.

"Thieving b'stard," the clone returns. After waiting a minute to be sure Xel was gone, he speaks again. "He's gone. You can come out now."

Chibi-Zel emerges from under the desk. "Thanks, I owe you one."

"Don't mention it. Anybody who hates the fruitcake is a friend of mine. You do realize they've already started a yaoi dojinshi about us, don't you?"

The chimera sighs. "I'll just add it to my collection."

"So, think you could teach me that Rah Tilt thing?"

(This had been a random moment of chibi-weirdness)

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Sunday, July 29, 2001 12:08:44 AM
IP: dialup-64.154.228.31.dial1.sanantonio1.level3.net

Hey, sorry if I don't reply to some people. I missed what was after my last post. Was the room wiped early or am I just late?

Green Baron<<Well, I'll be in the library a lot, if that's the case in Korea and I'll be ordering videos and DVDs>> These are many of the reasons why it's hard to save money. ;) As for Germany, trust me that is a great place to be stationed, when I enlisted I wanted Germany but Korea was the only one opened. When you go on leave all of Europe is open to you. I know what you mean about being alone, but if this place has taught me one thing, it's that when it comes to overseas tours, you won't have a problem making friends. I've been told that they LOVE Americans over there. Good luck.

Niamhgold<<and, thus, the plot of Gargoyles ;)>> True, but in Gargoyles the reasons weren't because of time travel.

Squiggy- Just try it. I dare you.

Well gotta go. Raining still!

Later

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Saturday, July 28, 2001 11:22:58 PM
IP: apnc10

Jesus f'ing Christ, I'm tired of this.

Since I'm tired of this, I'll save the pleasantries and just say what I feel at the moment.

You know what, Stephen? Screw you. Don't make me the scapegoat because it's convenient. "Boo hoo, two people out of the entire CR disagree with me on something, I think I'll leave the CR and blame them for it". Spare me the drama.

It's not just that you want to stick up for modern-day animation, or whatever you're trying to do. It's just that MOST times, if someone criticizes something strongly, you come in and say "Hey, what right do you have to criticize **fill in the blank**?" EVERY RIGHT IN THE DAMN WORLD. If Aaron wants to say, "Atlantis sucked. Find the master copies of this film and burn them so that this monstrosity will never see the light of day again!", or something to that effect, that's his right. Maybe he's dead wrong, but even if he is, what is it to you? Whenever a situation like that occurs, you COULD say "I disagree with what you said." Instead, what you do say almost always has the effect of "How dare you say that, and what right do you have to say it!?!?" It's not just about animation. It's about TONS of things. Someone says something bad about a book or an author. Someone badmouths a TV show or movie. Or music. Etc.

Yeah, everyone has a right to an opinion. You have a right to yours, too, and yours matters just as much as anyone else's in this CR. My problem with you is that, most times, your opinion on a subject seems to be structured so as to question or belittle the opinion of another on the subject.

But don't you dare start that bullshit about ME being the cause of you WHATEVER, leaving, feeling bad about yourself, etc. I'd expect others in this CR to take the easy way out and blame me for everything that's wrong with the CR, but I thought you, at least, had a little more integrity than that.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@excite.com]
Saturday, July 28, 2001 10:42:31 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

Hello people.
Hey,if there's a M.R. Mack, or STack in this room, can you email me please? I have some questions about your fics of Dante. But, my internet service is funky and I couldn't email you. I am hoping that Dante does not die, and that he and Goliath learn to get along and become true son and father, just like Goliath and Angela should learn how to be father and daughter.
Anyway, my email's here, so if you see this post, contact me, okay?
Thanks.
Shauntell
Shauntell Holm - [mariadestine@worldnet.att.net]
Layton, Utah, USA
Saturday, July 28, 2001 10:31:57 PM
IP: 232.westvalleycity-01rh15rt-ut.dial-access.att.net

well, I guess I know when it's clear my opinions aren't worth the energy to think them, much less to express them... and from what I see it seems i am of the minority when it comes to defending animation of any sort.

I guess that just proves how totally worthless I am, so I give up. you win SJ, Aaron. mark it well among your noble accomplishments... you've just made me realize my true place in this world. right back in the garbage heap where I should have gone to before.
stephen sobotka jr.
tampa, fl, usa
Saturday, July 28, 2001 10:13:07 PM
IP: 65342hfc61.tampabay.rr.com

Top of the toppings!
Fire Storm - [Jeremycbcd@usa.net]
Saturday, July 28, 2001 10:08:05 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

TOP 10?
DPH
Saturday, July 28, 2001 09:16:13 PM
IP: max1-32.cwy.cei.net

Top 10? ^_^
Wilek
Saturday, July 28, 2001 08:20:27 PM
IP: 130.94.125.60

On behalf of Non-human Primatas and Dactyliforms everywhere, I claim SEVENTH for the _PLANET OF THE APES_!!

:)

Rodlox
Saturday, July 28, 2001 08:08:25 PM
IP: proxy2-external.owml1.md.home.com

Early wipe. I claim sixth place for the land of Spain... or not...
Alan Coleman "Ordell" Waltrip
Saturday, July 28, 2001 07:49:08 PM
IP: d4ixk.odecpe.cableone.net

5th yea!!!!!!
Courntey
Saturday, July 28, 2001 07:45:29 PM
IP: 66.73.8.228

Fourth.
Lynati Kshudra
Saturday, July 28, 2001 07:38:58 PM
IP: 207.226.219.114

ah, crap. Third
Josh again
Saturday, July 28, 2001 07:09:29 PM
IP: ppp-206-170-217-197.nhwd02.pacbell.net

Second!
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel
Saturday, July 28, 2001 07:09:09 PM
IP: ppp-206-170-217-197.nhwd02.pacbell.net

Second!!!!
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Williams Lake, BC, Canada
Saturday, July 28, 2001 07:08:57 PM
IP: ts4-45.williams-lake.wlake.com

Naaaahhhh!!! Don't tell me that I am...

FIRST!!!!!!!!

WHOOOHOOO!!!!

Later
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Saturday, July 28, 2001 07:02:35 PM
IP: h213-18-186.mi2.albacom.net