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HIAMGOLD - Greetings! Yes, your email got through, I'm just finishing the descriptions up, along with the official rules for the artists before I send them out. I should have them out as late as Monday morning.

Tnank god the site's back up. Will have more to say later. ^_^
Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Saturday, August 18, 2001 07:49:11 PM
IP: 65342hfc61.tampabay.rr.com

** Niamhgold enters **
Yay! The site is up!

Stephen: (or anyone else associated with G2003): Have the mascot descriptions been finished yet? Just checking, 'cause I don't know if the email I sent got to the address. Thanks! :)

All for now. Adios!
Niamhgold
Saturday, August 18, 2001 06:40:09 PM
IP: lac-flex163.ncia.net

KATHY - Thanks for the link about the "Scottish Play" curse. Actually, the person who wanted to ask Shakespeare about where he got the witches from is looking for the wrong guy; Shakespeare was merely repeating the story found in his leading source for English and Scottish history, Holinshed's "Chronicles", when he told about Macbeth and Banquo meeting the Weird Sisters. (Holinshed makes them the "goddesses of destiny", though, rather than mere witches, which does tie in quite nicely with the "Gargoyles" interpretation of them). So they should really be asking Holinshed where he got the witches from.

Happy birthday, Greg! (Come to think of it, my birthday's coming up in just two days).

Re Dr. Claw in "Inspector Gadget": I vaguely recall an episode where Dr. Claw was meeting with a Japanese counterpart of his, who was also portrayed as always hidden except for a gloved hand - and even having his own pet cat.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, August 18, 2001 06:18:31 PM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup199.dialsprint.net

re: fanfiction.net

Just tried again and got this:

***********
August 16, 20001

FanFiction.Net has been suffering significant downtime due to compounding problems with the database server. We like to apologize for this downtime and are currently working very hard for a Monday, August 20th, recovery. Please be patient. For current support service subscribers FanFiction.Net will extend the service for an additional 2 1/2 months.

Xing Li
Director of Operations, FanFiction.Net

********

... note the year ... <g>

Christine
Saturday, August 18, 2001 05:39:16 PM
IP: 09-046.075.popsite.net

Avalon Mists deadline > just a reminder, I'd like all submissions for the Fall issue by Friday the 24th. Don't forget the Caption Contest and the Titania's Secret Catalog! ; )

Josh > thanks for the info. I bet it's served with red sauce, isn't it?

kathy > I've noticed similar problems at fanfiction.net lately. So it's not just you.

Bought Becca's Halloween costume today -- we were at the Disney store and they had full-body, heavy plush Maleficent-in-dragon-guise suits. For 40 bucks. And if you spent more than 30 you got a 10-dollar gift card. It's neat, it's well-made, it'll keep her warm, and it priced comperable with those hideous vinyl things they peddle at other stores. Woo! Plus, best of all, it's Maleficent! My favorite female non-Gargoyles villain of all time! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, August 18, 2001 05:27:11 PM
IP: 09-046.075.popsite.net

Enters in a mega ticked off mood. She goes straight to DC.

Looks like other people have been beating you, I'll just let you go. She lets DC go outside a 20 story window.

Leaves as a long line of people who want a pie of DC take a number and wait.

Ugh, not much happened to me recently, except I pulled another muscle but its feeling better. I also made an appointment and my frist Therapy session is a week from Friday.

My Dad finaly used his Garden Claw I got him for fathers day and he loves it. He also just bought a bunhc of insect spray that has on its list of insects it kills :Hornets and wasps

::Laughs maniacly::

Shadowrider:::Welcome back from your trip I hope you had a good time.

Christine::I hope both Tim and Becca get better soon.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Saturday, August 18, 2001 05:00:29 PM
IP: proxy.lga.netsetter.com

Glad this place is back up.

Not much else to say.

Oh, today is my birthday. I'm now 20.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Saturday, August 18, 2001 05:00:01 PM
IP: dialin-180-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

No, I'm not near caught up enough to post, but Lynati wanted me to warn y'all that she might not have any internet access until monday, so if you're expecting a reply to anything, you'll just have to wait.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Saturday, August 18, 2001 04:17:06 PM
IP: dialup-64.154.225.253.dial1.sanantonio1.level3.net

Hmm. I'm trying to guess at what point in the CR, the server lost its connection to the 'net. I guess Robby's post was the 1st one.

It's "1+1=-3" not "1+1=3". Big difference.

Moron is home so guess how happy I feel.

Just a reminder: the BFTS RP is going to shut down at the end of October unless someone else from the BFTS RP starts posting it.

1+1=-3

That's all for now.

Oh yea, one more thing: "Here I come to screw up the world!"
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, August 18, 2001 03:06:55 PM
IP: max1-56.cwy.cei.net

Warpmind- Dr Claw in the movie was just fine, because that too kliberties with the licence anyway. I'm talking about the toyline, that keeps to the show's designs, and has Dr. Claw as just this... guy. Its hard to describe, you need to see it for yourself.

Patrick- That was probably one of the new Scooby Movies, ZOmbie Island, Witches Ghost, or Scooby Doo meets Space Aliens. They've been doing a new Scooby movie every year with decent animation and a slightly more modern take on the series, and a weeee bit of continuity. And there have been some costume changes... Velma was actually in short sleeves! And Fred and Daphne wore completely different outfits alltogether...
Robby
Saturday, August 18, 2001 02:14:04 PM
IP: ac9f520b.ipt.aol.com

Heh, saw this and thought it was funny. Someone must have been reading TGS.
kathy
Friday, August 17, 2001 08:12:01 AM
IP: client114010.atl.mediaone.net

Query > Does anybody know what happened to fanfiction.net? I get a 404 error when I try and access the page. Is this a temporary situation or did they go under? Thanks.

Christine > Tough run of luck with Tim and Becca. I hope they're feeling better soon.
kathy
Friday, August 17, 2001 08:01:37 AM
IP: client114010.atl.mediaone.net

I've got a 100% on "avoiding taking any more tests at spark.com" - mostly 'cause I missed seeing the link when it was first posted. :P

Christine > Here's wishing a speedy recovery to Tim and Becca. So many weird injuries in the fandom this week... I keep wondering if there's a secret contest going on I didn't hear about.

Firestorm > "Getting that flame REALLY made my day! ;) (Note: It was for killing Angela. SO I gotta do that again, and SOON!) Dang... I just realized that I am not currently writing any stories that kill Angela. Ah, I hope rape will do then." - Speaking from similar experience, I'd say if you're looking for flames, you likely won't be disappointed. And it doesn't even have to be real, either... a dream works just as well. ;)

Inspector Gadget > Boy, we're getting into the 80s toons now. The villian leading the international all-powerful crime organization who's face you rarely see... Dr. Claw is a direct riff on Number One, leader of SPECTRE from the early James Bond films. Of course, it was Gadget's niece, Penny, and her dog who actually solved all his cases. Which doesn't say much for Dr. Claw, either... if his schemes were always so simple they could be foiled by a ten year old.

And speaking of 80s toons... has anyone else seen the "new" Scooby Doo series Cartoon Network is running? I was channel surfing the other day and paused as I passed by 'cause the voices didn't sound quite right. And then Velma did a search on the internet on a computer in the back of the Mystery Machine and I knew these must be new episodes. Happily, there wasn't a Harlem Globetrotter to be seen. Unfortunately, there haven't been any costume changes, either, and Velma is still saying "jinkees!" every other sentence. But the characters have all been given last names now, so I guess that's something. And they are aging well, too... they still look like teenagers... which is not bad for a group that's been traveling around in a psychodelic VW Microbus since the mid 1970s. :P

:: scampers off to work ::
Patrick Toman
Friday, August 17, 2001 07:07:59 AM
IP: ac8a680d.ipt.aol.com

*Warpmind enters, glancing about.*
Greetings, everyone.

Robby: I do hope you don't say that seeing Dr. Claw in the Inspector Gadget *movie* was disappointing? ;) (I think Everett did an admirable job there...)

Gside: You forget, Rasputin DID die. The autopsy proved that he drowned! (This was AFTER he downed enough poison to floor Godzilla and took about four dozen bullets, mind you.) Oh, and I better take your keys, since even your plants must be potted by now. ;)

Josh: Power of Greyskull? Naw, that wouldn't do... I'd just have to fight this evil-wannabe dude who's balder than me. ;)

Fire Storm: Xeno love doll? Pardon my saying so, but *ugh*. Now, a Ripley doll, however... }:)

Geesh, that's a short post... but I gotta get back to Library Duty again, anyway. (Last day! And I get paid soon, to boot! Yay!) Laterz, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, August 17, 2001 06:54:30 AM
IP: marx.ti.telenor.net

Imzadi: <Yeah, RIGHT>
Well, I say I cheated. Anwsering the questions honestly, I got a 52%,

only 2% more good than CrzyDemona.
<IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN ELIMINATE ADVERTISEMENTS LIKE BECKI'S?>
She just wants some feedback. Thats understandable. She should just

know that no one gives feedback! Hell, I am surprised I got as much as

I did! 2 e-mails and a FLAME! A FLAME! Getting that flame REALLY made

my day! ;)
(Note: It was for killing Angela. SO I gotta do that again, and SOON!

;P
Dang... I just realized that I am not currently writing any stories

that kill Angela. Ah, I hope rape will do then.
<The motherboard is attached to the side of the case you open, and it

folds out>
I SERIOUSLY hate cases like that! every single one I have seen like

that is a ROYAL b@#& to get back together, especially if you make a

non-standard improvement... like putting in a 3rd HD in a machine that

can barely handle 1.
I have got to figure out a way to get my laptop to accept my new

internal ZIP drive... just because.

Which ep?

School?
<Oh gee. I’m shocked. Buggy? M$ software? No!>
surprisingly, it is stable. It just sucks.
The good thing about Microsoft is that things will RUN with less then

the "minimum" requirements. FOr example, I am running Win2k on my

laptop, which has about half the minimum processor speed.
<There is a way on the mac too…DYMO tape 8-)>
INPUT FAILURE! Qua?
<That’s okay, I think I can live with a DLD. It’ll be tough getting by,

but I suppose it’ll have to do!>
How about a nice xenomorph love doll? That extending mouth can do alot

more than just bite! ;)
<Maybe? Do it! Post it!>
SOunds good. After I am done with this fic (Early next week, probally.)
I REALLY should proof and post what I have.
<Well, if you put it together, the first time you used it, the amount

of ram it had (not the first boot up to see if the dern thing worked,

but the first time you actually USED it) is the original RAM>
Then I have no idea. ;) I THINK I started with 384 on my Athlon

system... but I could be wrong.
<PLEASE tell me I’m not the first>
Sorry, but yes, you are.

LOL!
<Remember, the DLD is NOT to be armed>
NOTE TO SELF: Ship Imzadi the Demona LOVE Doll, not the Demona

Assasian/Infultration droid.

That surprised the f%^& out of me. A woman put up with you for long

enough to have sex with her?
<Sherlock indexing only runs on new files…after it indexes all the old

ones once.>
Hmm... Sherlock is a MAC program, right?
<Okay, time for ME to hit the sack (aka 2AM)>
YOu suck. I get off work at 8am.
<LONG LIVE BLUNTMAN AND CHRONIC!!!>
SUCKS that will be the last movie. I hope they make cameo's in other

movies still! (Scream 3)
<Can I utter them aboot someone else’s trackball?>
NO! Trackballs are HOLY! Trackballs are rightous! Trackballs are the

instruments of DOG!
<Dude, straws. Real men shouldn’t be sucking on things>
MUST... hold.. back... EXTREMELY sick joke...
<Battlefield Earth>
Watch it on cable (DO NOT RENT IT!). Laugh at it.
It's a cultists hit!
<Check this out. It belongs on your site>
Cool! Hmm... I think I will write one like that!

I feel dirty. Why does that pickle you?
<You would consider this evidence!?>
I have my reasons.

Jan: 
A Sub-Zero! YOu can hide 2 familys in that thing! AND still have room

to put 10 gallons of milk on the doors!

Did you get the surgery to fix that? I know I will have to get it done

one day.
<It's wallpaper shopping day... I'm off to the stores.. bye!>
My place guarantees the lowest prices. DecorateToday.com

Warpmind: 
I am reminded of Monty Python.
"With a melon?"
<It's personal, not a statement as to their functionality. Capisce?>
Understood. YOu are entitled to your opinion...
No matter how wrong it is! ;)

Niamhgold: <I'm glad some guys think that>
And the articles are only marginally good. I like the jokes, really.
ALTHOUGH, the do occasionally have some good stuff.
<And to think she's now doing Loreal commercials>
As before, now again.

Jaden: 
Thats what I thought about my hearing and memory problems and these

d#%^ cheast pains.
This body is not suited for me. I did not choose it. I would NOT have

chosen it if I had a choice.
So i am making myself a new one.

Ravyn Maza: <Hey, thanks so much for the wonderful GMC 2004 t-shirts

you two made for the Gathering this year!!! They came out awesome, and

I really liked the designs (especially mine). ;) Thanks, guys! :)>
No problem! Our pleasure!
But Coyote did most of the ironing!

Fleur: <I’d kill for the kind of love Fire Storm and Lady Mystic share>
S*17! *WE* are the standards for love and relationships in this CR?!?!

Winterwolf: <amazed how much Josh's little brother was just like Josh>
Can the world handle *2* Josh's?

DPH: 
As someone who had that happend 3 times, I know that sucks.
But you at least got severance pay. I barely got my last paycheck.
<INCOMPONENT MANAGEMENT>
Thats redundant. By definition, management is incompotent.

Saki Asameeya: Hate to break it to you, but I have been writing for

over 3 years and I barely gotten any e-mails at all.
IF you are lucky, people will say "Nice story." Heck, this is a CR for

the TGS stories, nearly everone in here reads them, and almost no one

talks about them! What does THAT tell you?

Spacebabie: <Sylphiel and Lex>
Why does that sound like a STD? Syphielex!

Siofra: <Stores...Best buy had 128 for $30 with a $10 rebate>
$20? Thats pretty decent for retail.

CrzyDemona: <You aren't going to destroy my political career THAT

easily!>
Wouldn't that HELP your career? ;)

Gside: Welcome back! No problem about not stopping by. I understand.

YOu just don't like me! <G>
<Soda, infidel>
Did I mention I am getting a soda dispenser? Just add syrup!

Fire Storm - [jeremycbcd@usa.net]
Friday, August 17, 2001 04:09:28 AM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Hey folks!

I had a GREAT day at work today. Much better than the really depressing day I had yesterday.

First, I made a lot of progress on the last part of the project. It now looks like I may be done tomorrow or Monday. Either would rule. Early finish = days off!

At 10AM, the RAM came in. What RAM, you ask? Well, the RAM that I ordered at 11AM YESTERDAY for the art department's g4. It was a 512 MB dimm and cost about $73 after shipping. Not the best price, I know, but I installed it for nearly free (my time DOES cost SOME money) and it did get here the next day. Plus, its from a company I trust who has already delivered reliable RAM for my powerbook.

The DIMM took about 2 minutes to install. This is one of the greatest features of the G4: the ease with which you can add to it. The space may be limited (only 3 RAM slots holding a max of 1.5 GB), but all you have to do to install it is shut down and pull down on the side. The motherboard is attached to the side of the case you open, and it folds out. Just pop in the RAM and you're done (make sure to touch the metal first!). No screws or anything required. It's really quite amazing, if I do say so myself. Say what you will about MacOS, etc...but they really know how to design good cases.

So instead of spending $30 on a 128 MB DIMM and $60 on installation, my dad spent $73 on a 512 and about $3 on installation and ordering (I figure it took me about 10 minutes to do both). Which sounds like a better deal to you? Jerk tech support people. My place only charged me $25 to install TWO DIMMS in my powerbook.

I got to have lunch with my dad at one of my favorite chinese restaurants, which will probably be the last time I eat there for several months.

We left work early and I watched Batmand Beyond before logging in to MacTank.

More test scores!

48% slutty (I just replaced the words masculine words with feminine ones). I'll have to try harder. I am SO not getting enough.

50% bastard, 28% of which is tard...I'm just not enough of a jerk to hit a woman...unless she hits me first...then its on...

39% bitch (higher than the world average...there's a shock).

I got a 35% on the ass test...I have no idea what that means. Apparently I don't have enough confidence in my own ass (or lack thereof).

I'm 85% un-telligent. Here's why:
You have a knack for greatness.
you are resourceful, sly, and guaranteed to get away with everything.
The subject shows an astounding level of intelligence, and his sense of observation is one of his best qualities.
he just isn't tough enough, sir, and he avoids any solution that involves violence (so I run from mob bosses...is that so wrong?)
the subject displayed a healthy (better than most net freaks anyway) sense of humor, a decent and respectable sense of morality, and a hot shot self-confidence
I don't understand the morals one...

I'd like a word or three with the authors of these tests. I am proof that they have NO idea what they're doing.

On to replies!

Jan: <<a specific system of belief or worship, etc. built around God, a code of ethics, a philosophy of life, etc.>>: I think that's an OR thing, not necessarily an AND thing...God OR Code OR philosophy...but you could be right. <<Where does an atheist's beliefs fall into this definition?>>: system of belief built around a philosophy of life. <<the Spark tests are not to be taken seriously>>: But their so eerily accurate! <<If it was from high cholestrol or some other genitive reason>>: Nah, it was smoking. And THAT is definitely not being passed down to me.

Ravyn: <<You can be silent and withdrawn, but behind your reserved exterior lies an active mind that allows you to analyze situations and come up with creative, unexpected solutions. Normal people call this "scheming." Don't learn German>>: Engineering, however, is right up your alley! <<Should I be scared or honored that I'm being compared to Montgomery Burns>>: Not as honored as being compared to Dr. Claw! <<a figment of men's imaginations>>: Right. An attractive female engineer. Definitely a figment. <<next little bit is NOT CR appropriate>>: IM ME! I'll tell you what wasn't appropriate from mine ;-) <>: Women engineers don't make as much as male engineers. <<Thanks for telling me about the Statics class>>: No problem. <<It doesn't sound too bad, I guess>>: It's really harmless. Just don't fall behind. <<He just said that once it makes sense to you, it's easy>>: Gee, duh.

DPH: <<Each of those answers came back when I took the test with a different email address>>: That's bizarre. <<If anyone is convinced I'm NOT crazy>>: I think everyone in here is nucking futz.

Aingeal/Lynati: <<those set on being normal run for your life>>: Not set on being normal, but I'll run just the same, thank you. <<we road trip and collect people in one place... ehehehehehehehehehe... i bring my Dragon. Be afraid>>: Feeding or just ritual sacrifice?

Mara: <>: No kidding. <<Needer of sex, slightly twisted, and yet occasionally capable of true love>>: Sounds like you. <<It kills some it touches. Others are left with nothing but stains, stains on their sheets>>: LOL!

IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN ELIMINATE ADVERTISEMENTS LIKE BECKI'S? Those have NO place in this CR. Its one thing to pitch something amongst a normal post. But to post specifically for the purpose of plugging something should be banned.

The Wizard: <<Just shows to go ya>>: They think people who use Microsoft are brilliant and people who use yahoo are just cheap...shows what THEY know! <<Wonder if they still have that thing?>>: They do, but I have no idea where it is. Interesting tidbit of info: last time I played with it, I didn't match a single person that I knew within 50%. <<I'm driving as fast as I can>>: Do you have a lead foot? <<If I hadn't been running late, I could've gotten a front-row seat to the accident>>: No, because you wouldn't have been driving as fast because you would have been on time. So you would have been in exactly the same position. <<Got to talk to a good friend over the phone, which made my night>>: You too? No way. That's the greatest when it happens, isn't it? <<n 4-foot water. I mean _hundreds_>>: That's a lot of sharks in not much space...lets drop my little bro in there. <<Let's move you to the top of my posting list again, for old time's sake>>: Do you have some memory of me being on top that I don't know about? <<Just detonate the dead weight>>: Unless its on my feet. Pop quiz, hotshot: what do you do? <<I'm going to my dad and using your dad's payment as case precedent>>: Bad plan. <<Maybe you'll die multiple times?>>: I hope so! ;-) <<die once during sex>>: That would really suck. On the other hand, if you don't die, that might explain why you never do it again. You realize of course that I'm talking about a different "die". <<Any tips>>: Move the hell out of the house! Oh, you did that already. Try spending some time each day meditating to classical music. <<I'm sorry you have to even think about work when you should be thinking about fun for next year>>: Me too. It blows. But that new G4 will make it all worthwhile...I hope. <<They must be disappointed. Then again, if they lose you because they think you should work for free, they'll be even more disappointed>>: I hope that enough to keep them paying me. <<Italian is *yummy*>>: What, you like Italians? Hear that, Emambu?! She thinks you're yummy. <<Same here! Like I said, made my night, after such a blurry morning>>: What are the odds? <>: What, you went down on your entire school? And only 9% slut!? Damn. <<thanks for the link! Can I return the favor?>>: Sure! Hits rock. <<You've already gone up a notch, then>>: Something else the tests don't account for. <<Is this for the death test or a real doctor's survey?>>: The tests. <<we can exist in unemployed subconsciousness together>>: On our own island, right? <<that would make me...what, sub-novice>>: Probably, yeah. <<men send their girls to you so they're not audited. Well, the girls are "audited"...but, anyways...>>: I like that plan "I will offer you one night with my wife if you don't check our tax records". <<Val Kilmer is much more attractive than Tom>>: Well none of my friends ever told me I looked like Val... Besides, you're just saying that because he was in true genius. But Cruise was a FIGHTER PILOT! <<Food? Yes, to a certain degree>>: POINT. <<Can't tend a bar, though. That's better left to the crew of Coyote Ugly >>: And they do a fine job of it..."fine" being the operative word. <<apparently the same guy responsible for my "murder">>: Or at least your death. Damn well better be. Sex without death is like...something that sucks. <<what happened to the heads?>>: I have no idea... <<You need some Tums?>>: Logically, if I were a living ulcer, Tums would KILL ME. <<does it ever anger anyone that they never just let us kids have what we wanted and show us his face before the show was cancelled?>>: Not really. There are more important things to worry about. Like the price of gas when my car is 400 miles away. <<you can live off me! I've got a bazillion dollars, anyways>>: Show off. <<*someone* else here has to score 90 or above!! ** Looks around pleadingly >>: Don't look at me... << Wow, chica>>: Jealous of the score? <<it was fun watching my brother go 70 pages without realizing it>>: As dumb as he looks? <<The mountains are good for that>>: For getting struck by lightning? <<I've got, what, a week to make something? I'd better hurry>>: Would this something be for girls or guys? <>: Because of your "connections", right? <<I'm off to enjoy until I'm forced inside>>: I wish I was there.

Jan: <<I'm not too familiar with either atheist or agnostic>>: Very simple. Atheist: there is no god. No supreme being. No guiding force. No nothing. When we die, we rot. Agnostic: not only not sure about whether there is god, but also believe that it is impossible to be sure (aka existence of god cannot be proven or disproven). <>: DITTO!

Baldy: <>: Is it the power of greyskull? <<Over four hours in the Dark can make ANYONE love the Light>>: Not me! <<A sparrow? At what altitude?>>: More importantly, was he carrying coconuts? <<call me whatever you like, and I won't call you "Imzadi">>: Good! Wouldn't want you to. At least not seriously. Its a callsign. At virtual world, there are MANY people that call me Imzadi...<<what's in a name, anyway>>: Letters, usually.

Greg X: <>: Same here. <<Personally, I'd like to create Heaven on Earth... with me ruling over all humanity of course>>: That's cool. Cuz if I were ruling...it'd be hell for a lot of people.

Fire Storm: <<93% slut>>: Yeah, RIGHT.

Smut pandering bitch queen of all creation: Gnocchi is a like ravioli, but with potato in it. It's really good, if done right.

Gside: Welcome back! How was the trip? <<Toronto>>: You were in Toronto!? You gotta tell me these things, dude. We could have hung out. <<Is indigo a better approximation?>>: Sure. Visible. <<Yes, yes you are>>: I'll live. <<Subtle?>>: Well, not for me. But for others. <<Soda, infidel>>: Damn straight! But don't easterners call it pop?

I'd like to say that everything is okay between me and that f*cking little slut.
-Eminem, about Christina Aguilera

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Friday, August 17, 2001 02:13:57 AM
IP: ppp-206-170-217-211.nhwd02.pacbell.net

You know, I was contemplating putting up the entire Planets on my eden account before I left, but I was just too lazy. I'll get around to mp3s again somewhat soon.

If you wanted to know anything else about my trip: Good food is cheap in Canada, and Guido the Gourmet is a nice place. Toronto has a good irish type place (Fionn McCool, or something like that), with a nice bridie. Why, yes, I do like food, why do you ask? Oh, and I decided to pick up DII and BGII expansion packs before I crossed over back to the US. It was discovered that I look remarkably like a bulky Rasputin (ergo, I can't die). The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was pretty good, and we're going to give Bruce and Bon Jovi RCDS filler pads for any future lyrics.

Warpmind> <>: Welcome to my side. I told you, it's all about the spell slingers.
<>: One can only hope.
<<Someone been too long in Zork?>>: Haven't spent long enough. Want some rye? 'Course you do.

Winterwolf> <>: I don't like the chance of hitting my own people, so I go more for one on one, and some summoning.

Imzadi> <>: But if I don't, it messes with the basis for my rotation. Is indigo a better approximation?
<<Where does that put me>>: You haven't been as persistant as Wilek yet.
<<So I'm just a sex object>>: Yes, yes you are.
<<Huh?>>: As Baldy said, Zork, one of the Elder Games.
<<and making dirty jokes in subtle ways that don't violate the PG-13 rating>>: Subtle?
<<the best defense against a long range weapons is a LONGER range weapon>>: See: Agincourt.

Fire Storm> <<Pop one or two in a pop>>: Soda, infidel.

Christine> <>: I just press w to select the color (or l, or ood, or cd, or cbb...)

Imzadi> <<Gside's away, huh?>>: Isn't that what I said?

Lady Mystic> <<Sorry FS and I weren't here to make arrangements early enough before you left so that you could have visited us>>: Don't worry about it. We passed through Detroit quite quickly to make it to our relative's before the end of the day (didn't help that we ran into three separate traffic jams/slowdowns).

Imzadi> <>: I should hope not.

Heck with it, I'm skipping the rest and catching up on everything after my return later.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, August 17, 2001 01:35:36 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Never seeing Dr. Claw's face- It always bugged me too that you never saw it in the show, but that was part of the gimmick. The game claimed that you got to see his face if you beat it, but I never played the game, so I wouldn't know. However, skimming through an issue of Toyfare, (Which showcases some badass toys) I noticed... AN Inspector Gadget toy line. And Dr. Claw is one of the toys. His face is quite prominent and visible on the toy and its well... Dissapointing. He's just this... angry sort of looking guy with a big nose. I always expected him to have some sort of mask or demon face similar to his orginizations logo or something... Really, you're better off not seeing Dr. Claw's face, he's much cooler as just the gauntleted hand...
Robby
Friday, August 17, 2001 12:49:16 AM
IP: ac9afff8.ipt.aol.com

Niamh, I'll never forgive you.

natch ;-)
Josh
Thursday, August 16, 2001 11:43:46 PM
IP: ppp-206-170-217-209.nhwd02.pacbell.net

** Niamhgold enters briefly **

For all expecting an email from me by tomorrow morning...it's going to take longer, as my account is temporarily down. I apologize in advance for this.

Adios!
Niamhgold
Thursday, August 16, 2001 11:36:29 PM
IP: lac-flex165.ncia.net

Update > Tim is now able to move again, with only lingering aches and pains. Becca's finger is doing okay, and we've reached the point where we have less histrionics, kicking, and thrashing around when it's time for the antibiotics (and with only 7 and 1/2 more days to go ...)

Josh > since you mentioned it, what _is_ gnocci? I've run across the word before (in Dean Koontz's Strangers, as it happens), and wondered.

Crzy > gee, hon, is anyone surprised by those results? ; ) I'll just stick with that medieval job table test that pegged me so right as the Black Knight.

Off to try and catch up on some e-mail ... toodles!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:00:39 PM
IP: 05-044.075.popsite.net

Color: Pale Peach

(Please don't test colors. If you want to check out text colors please visit my link.)
Lady Mystic
Thursday, August 16, 2001 09:01:24 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

I ran across two text colors with the same HEX values. So I'm just making sure I archived the correct values for each color. (Sorry about this.)

Color: Pale Rich Orange
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Thursday, August 16, 2001 08:59:26 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

TheSpark slut test: 93% slut! I am sluttier than 100% of the world.
...
Ok... so I cheated. ;)
Fire Storm
Thursday, August 16, 2001 07:27:44 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Hola, everyone! Just returned from a couple days of camping, and tomorrow morning I leave again...a friend of mine has invited me and some other friends to his place on the Alps, so I'll be here again Sunday morning (Saturday late night for you Americans...)

Niamhgold:> <<Yay, camping! Have a lot of fun! I'm putting your letter in the mail tomorrow. Did you happen to see me online Saturday and Sunday? I looked you up but you weren't :( >> Well, I can say I had some fun in camping...short but good, so to say. About last weekend, my modem betrayed me Saturday night, and I couldn't restart it until the following day...

Winterwolf:> <<Have a fun camping. I can't remember when I did that last. I'm sure it will be time well spent if Alessia will be joining you. ~_^>> The fun thing is that Alessia used not to like camping, and she started liking it after she had some with me. Now, she doesn't really *consider* any other kind of vacation...and, this year, I was probably going to appreciate a more comfortable solution (in this last year of service I made a lot of camps...), but there was no way to convince her...;)

Green Baron:> Taken note of your service place. If you don't mind, I could visit you, although it is not probale in the short time. Good to hear you feel not so bad in the ol' Europe!

Spacebabie:> Thank you!

Emambu:> Good to see you here again! Did you get my email?

Fleur:> Yes, situation in Genova was more or less the same happened in Melbourne, as far as I know. For sure, in Genova there were episodes of police brutality not justified by circumstances...but it is also true that we couldn't just stand and watch some so-called "Do-gooders" coming from nowhere devastating one of our cities without intervening...about your final comment, I agree. Reporters have already earned a lot from the riots (especiallt those who were accidentally wounded in them) and lawyers are going to get their piece of the cake as well...

Saki Asameeya:> welcome in the CR! I apologize for not welcoming you here before, but, due to military service, my presence here is sporadic, and I happen to miss many of the things that happen, including new faces appearing. I hope you feel good into here, and that you will keep on posting for a long time. :)

Well, I'm sure I am missing something..sorry, but I'm in serious need of sleep. I'll try to make nother passage tomorrow morning before leaving. See you all!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Thursday, August 16, 2001 06:27:00 PM
IP: h213-46-56.mi2.albacom.net

I'm an Atheist (who sometimes leans toward Agnostic). Personally I don't really care whether or not it's a religion, I know what I believe, and for me that's all that matters.

And to comment on this. I could love a Christian, or Jew or whatever. Because this sort of thing doesn't really matter to me. I wouldn't convert, and I wouldn't make someone else convert. I accept differences.

I know I've said this before, but I'm an Atheist because I was never raised to be religious. Neither of my parents are Atheists though. My mother is a secular Catholic and my father is a secular Jew... they believe but they don't practice. Neither have been to a Church or a synigogue in years unless it was for a wedding, funeral, bar mitzfa, since before I was even born. Out of respect to the other, both of them avoided pushing Religion on to myself or my brother... he's an Atheist also.

As for whether or not I'll burn in Hell for eternity for my beliefs, if I were to believe in Heaven or Hell, I don't think it matters what one believes as long as they are a good person while they were alive.

Personally, I'd like to create Heaven on Earth... with me ruling over all humanity of course ;)
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Thursday, August 16, 2001 05:44:15 PM
IP: dialin-527-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Jan> An Athiest believes there is no "Higher Power" at all. That's a belief about the subject of religion, hence a "religious belief."

An Agnostic believes that humans can never really know whether there is a higher power or not. I guess that means they have "religious beliefs" too, but I find it hard to count not knowing what to believe as a belief.

David G - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, August 16, 2001 05:12:44 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

*Warpmind enters, grinning fiendishly.*
At last I have Power... Over four hours in the Dark can make ANYONE love the Light... (Serious power outage.)

Saki: Anton Sevarius, Demona nad Romance? Sounds scary. };) I'm hoping to get around to reading it. :)

Lain: Oh, har, har. At least your answering machine has your voice now, even though it's chewing me out. ;)

Christine: I hope so, too. I need those Necromantic spells. And the orc stats. :) (Amusing entry to the Book of Yor, though. Think he was ever marooned on the Island of Clumsy Dental Assistants?)

Gside: A sparrow? At what altitude? ;)

Josh: Amigo, you call me whatever you like, and I won't call you "Imzadi". Aside from that, we'll collaborate loosely on world domination. I have no reason to like you, and no reason to dislike you, and least of all I care about being called names. After all, what's in a name, anyway? *Slowly polishes the ToeSmiter Great Maul.*

Xanathar: True, Sam and Max was funny, too, but not as much as DOTT. And the Monkey Island series was great, BUT... the fourth game killed it. :(

Ravyn: Fellow Mastermind! So, which one of us should be Homes, and who should be Moriarty? };)

Aingeal/Lynati: You ladies want the dragon? Keep him. Just remember - felines gives'im heartburn. Badly. ;)

Mara: You're right. The test results are unsurprising. (Particularly in light of that most exhilarating costume at the Masquerade in LA...) };) *Ponders a good wedding present, and pauses for a looooooooooong time at a medikit...*

Well, that sums up the post... hope I get to keep Power long enough to watch Futurama, at least... Later, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, August 16, 2001 05:01:51 PM
IP: mp-217-215-96.daxnet.no

David> what would classify as an atheist's religious beliefs? *curious* Doesn't agnostics believe in a supreme being but not necessarily in God? That and they ride the fence over if God can be proven or not. I'm not too familiar with either atheist or agnostic since I'm neither ;)
I read your post after I returned from wallpaper shopping and I DID pick out some that has blue in it! *L* Blue is my favorite color =) I brought home a few samples to look over and every one of them has blue in it. hehe

Josh> <<156 bucks, you'd spread a jar mayonnaise in your underwear and wear it for a month straight>>: They thought I'd do it for $100>> yeah well, as I've said before, I may be easy, but I'm not cheap! ;)

I am a marvelous housekeeper.
Every time I leave a man I keep his house.
-Zsa Zsa Gabor-

Jan
Thursday, August 16, 2001 04:37:22 PM
IP: modem18-118.mo-net.com

** Niamhgold enters again **

Allright, nix what I said about the different personality test scores. Apparently my hotmail account still gets me the Accountant personality. I guess they just hadn't switched the Mentor one over from the last time I took it (which was way back in...Sept? Oct?).

Adios!
Niamhgold
Thursday, August 16, 2001 03:29:23 PM
IP: lac-flex77.ncia.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hola, all :) It seems to be rush for TheSpark.com tests in here. It's interesting to see everyone's scores. I notice what DPH did...if I take the test with my account at hotmail, I come up as a Mentor. When I take the test with my yahoo account, I'm an Accountant. Just shows to go ya ;)
Reminds me of that cute little thing yahoo had a while back that would determine your compatibility with someone based on their name. Wonder if they still have that thing?

Other stuff...it was odd, yesterday morning. I was angry beyond belief that I was running five minutes late, because I had a car appointment and work to get to within the same 1-hour period, and I needed all the time I could get. So I'm driving as fast as I can (and I was tired, so that wasn't so smart ;)), and bam, right in the middle of the street in front of my dad's office, a huge accident. Some guy had fallen asleep at the wheel and slammed into the side of my friend's mother's car (she wasn't too seriously injured, but the car was demolished). I called my dad later and asked him what had happened. He said it happened at 8:30, which was five minutes before I left. If I hadn't been running late, I could've gotten a front-row seat to the accident. Or worse. Kind of eerie, huh? Of course, it's probably just a huge coincidence :)

From yesterday afternoon on, things got better. Got some work done, did some back to school (ugh) shopping, etc., etc. Got to talk to a good friend over the phone, which made my night :) Then crashed and woke up not tired today :)

Weird non-Niamh news -- The sharks are gathering, apparently, in Florida, explaining all those shark attacks. My marine bio friend Colin has been sent there to study what's going on, as scientists are baffled. The video footage is freaky. Tons of sharks all in 4-foot water. I mean _hundreds_, and they're not happy at being driven towards shore (who can blame 'em, poor things?). But when the boats went out to study them...they vanished. Helicopter cameras couldn't find any trace of them. It's *weird*. I'm wondering if some sort of fissure has opened up. Anyways, random cool fact :)

On to the replies! :)

Josh: Let's move you to the top of my posting list again, for old time's sake ;) <some other stuff happened that's really dragging me down> No, no, that's not right. Just detonate the dead weight :) <My dad paid me $100 for my burner. Sweet!> Okay, I'm going to my dad and using your dad's payment as case precedent ;) <it crashed. I can only assume this means that I will, in fact, live FOREVER> Either that, or it proves that it can't accurately predict your death. Maybe you'll die multiple times? That might be how it works for me...die once during sex (which would be...d@mn, this year!), then again when I'm 68. ;) <Stressed myself out too much worrying about how to make it work...that sucked.> And yet you scored less than me on the stress test. Any tips? I'm sorry you have to even think about work when you should be thinking about fun for next year ;) <But I can't work for free> They must be disappointed. Then again, if they lose you because they think you should work for free, they'll be even more disappointed ;) And probably scared, too. <Mom made gnocchi for dinner> Mmm...gnocchi. The night before last we had manicotti. Italian is *yummy* (food, that is). <It was brief, but special nonetheless> Same here! Like I said, made my night, after such a blurry morning :) <God, I can't WAIT to go back up to school> I can sympathize, although I go down to school ;) <Check it out. If you're not there and want to be, let me know> Wow, thanks for the link! Can I return the favor? You'd score well on the Un-Telligence test, because, if you answer them too seriously, it gives you a bad score because "you don't have a strong sense of humor to survive" ;) Those tests are like horoscopes, anyways (though horoscopes are fun to build parodies off of ;)). <But I hope I won't be like that forever> You've already gone up a notch, then. You haven't resigned to your fate :) Then again, you don't believe in fate so I suppose that's just natural :) <If your grandma had a heart attack once...> I think what Jan said is on par. Depends if she smoked, drank, was obese, cholesterol, so forth. Is this for the death test or a real doctor's survey? I had a grandmother who died of cirrhosis (or so I've been told, she died long before I was born), but that's because she drank heavily after moving from Ireland to the US. So I don't really check "Liver disease". You too? Great, we can exist in unemployed subconsciousness together ;) <How stupid are men!?> That can only be decided when we know if clams think men are alive ;) <I'm a novice too.> God, that would make me...what, sub-novice? ;) <SOLD! I wonder what it means if I'm an accountant and an iceman...> That you work for the IRS and men send their girls to you so they're not audited. Well, the girls are "audited"...but, anyways... ;) <: it said "Maverick", not "Iceman". That would be Tom Cruise, not Val Kilmer> Pity. Val Kilmer is much more attractive than Tom. <LOL! Can you cook!?> Food? Yes, to a certain degree :) Can't tend a bar, though. That's better left to the crew of Coyote Ugly ;) <So will the soul mate be the one guy you sleep with this year> Yeah, and apparently the same guy responsible for my "murder" <Beats my kids with a 10% chance of having no head!> Wha...what happened to the heads?! ;) <I'm a living ucler> Ouch. You need some Tums? <guess I know where I'm gonna meet the women the sex test mentioned!> Lol! Well, there's at least one up on MIR, and she doesn't want to come back down :) And I've heard stories about those Plutonians, too... ;)

Ravyn: <Famous masterminds in television: Dr. Claw, The Scarecrow and Mrs. King, Montgomery Burns> I'm jealous...that's the personality I wanted :) As for Dr. Claw...does it ever anger anyone that they never just let us kids have what we wanted and show us his face before the show was cancelled?! ;) <Should I be scared or honored that I'm being compared to Montgomery Burns? :)> Scared, because you're going to have Smithers after ya ;) Then, it's all honored, barring that. Don't worry, you can live off me! I've got a bazillion dollars, anyways ;)

David G: <Of course, people CAN belong to the Athiest Church, but that's another story> Uh...pardon my ignorance, but can you tell the story? I'm curious as to how an atheist church works. Do they watch TV or something? <Not that I have the slightest idea what the room you're papering looks like or anything, I just like blue> Great taste in colors!

Gside: Welcome back to the world of the insane. And after that accident, I hope your car is okay ;)

Jan: <60% Pure> Okay, *someone* else here has to score 90 or above!! ** Looks around pleadingly ** <“Pure Mountain Stream”> Choicest beers of the world, unite! ;) I'm honored to share my personality with you :) <Slut test - 41% slut. Hehehe> Wow, chica. :) <Greed test – 57% and… “In addition, we have determined that for a small bribe of 156 bucks, you'd spread a jar mayonnaise in your underwear and wear it for a month straight.> Y'know, I know I'm greedy. I just know it. There's no way you're more greedy than me!!! ;) <Ok, that’s all of the testing that I took and had time for. Some of the questions were hilarious> My favorite is the IQ test. I got the joke after three pages...but it was fun watching my brother go 70 pages without realizing it ;) <Awesome storm came thru here earlier : ) One time it had a flash of light and then a POP, instead of a clap of thunder> I love T-storms! It's a known fact that I'm living in lightning zone. The house across the street was struck, the satellite dish on our roof (from way back when) was hit, three trees next to our house have been struck, and hail has attacked my car. The mountains are good for that ;)

Christine: Ouch, sorry to hear about the [bad] luck. Well, it usually comes in sets of threes, so you should be good for a while ;) <the Titania's Secret Catalog is open to undies and loungewear for the gents as well! ::nudges Crzy:: I'm expecting at least one pic in particular!> Oooh. Well, I've got, what, a week to make something? I'd better hurry!

DPH: <use both favorite color and image for the poster in question> I call Bright Cyan. And, of course, the sisters. But I haven't had trouble with anyone stealing my pic ;)

Ah...it seems there's a thunderstorm brewing. I'm off to enjoy until I'm forced inside (AKA, golf-ball sized hail ;))
Adios!!!!!!
Niamhgold
Thursday, August 16, 2001 03:12:31 PM
IP: lac-flex77.ncia.net

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Becki - [rockdiva09@hotmail.com]
Federalsburg, Maryland, USA
Thursday, August 16, 2001 03:02:59 PM
IP: proxy.iad3.netsetter.com

Well, I took theSpark match test, and I am:

"The Deviant"
Dependent Evil
Sex Taker
SYNOPSIS

Needer of sex, slightly twisted, and yet occasionally capable of true love. You make others nervous, and rightfully so, for your heart swings from guy to guy, like a blood-red pendulum. It kills some it touches. Others are left with nothing but stains, stains on their sheets.

However, you are capable of genuine romance, so it's not like you're a total bitch. True, you show an unusually strong interest in self-serving sex and immoral doings, yet there is a part of you looking for Mr. Right among all the Mr. Dead Wrongs you've discarded. You have potential for both perversion and love. A certain type of guy finds this enthralling. Please be gentle with this one.

Can't say I'm surprised :) ::snuggles her Aaron::
Mara Cordova
Thursday, August 16, 2001 02:32:05 PM
IP: aca9a02a.ipt.aol.com

if I didn't love my mac so much I'd be inclined to walk up to Steve Jobs at the next macworld expo and throttle him until his black turtleneck was looser than Jenna Jameson

more on this (like a reason) later...
Josh
Thursday, August 16, 2001 02:18:34 PM
IP: adsl-63-194-25-242.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net

::POunces on Warps's Dragon:: MINE!!!!!!!!!!!! I collect these lil pets... you feed them enough firestone and other fun stuff.... heck... catnip is good... ::evil grin:: I'll let my Main Dragon play with him :D Thanks... ::sends Dragon off after the others playing near the back of her mind::

Well.. I'm having fun.. I'm here at Lynati's... be afraid.. we're getting along VERY well....::smirk:: those set on being normal run for your life! Next step... we road trip and collect people in one place... ehehehehehehehehehe... i bring my Dragon. Be afraid. (again).

*Lynati waves frantically and then she and Ain are thrown out*

Aingeal and Lynati
Spazzy, MD, Dont Ask
Thursday, August 16, 2001 01:27:02 PM
IP: 207.226.219.78

Spark personality test> I got:
HELPER WHO FINDS MISSING CHILDREN OVER THE INTERNET
(Submissive Introvert Concrete Feeler )
Like just 11% of the population you are a HELPER WHO FINDS MISSING CHILDREN OVER THE INTERNET (SICF). You are very tentative in the world and introverted with people--which means you are the shy and silent type. Hence the Internet. But behind your reserved exterior lies a dedicated person with a passion for the concrete truth who wants to, in his heart of hearts, help find missing children. God bless you.

...Ok, sure...
I suppose if I knew about some missing children I'd be willing to help find them over the internet, but I'm not really that motivated.

The rest of it was fairly accurate, though.

I may take some of the other tests if I have time. It's been a while, and maybe my personality has undergone massive upheaval or something.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, August 16, 2001 01:02:38 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

thespark.com Personality test - I am all of the following:
Accountant - You are an ACCOUNTANT (SICT)--reserved, meticulous, and dependable. While being called an accountant isn't really that cool, neither are you. You aren't exactly the life of the party, but you do have fun, and the people close to you really do love you. Seriously: accountants are good at whatever they do. They can always be trusted, especially by their friends. They almost never cheat or steal. (Some real-life accountants do, however, they are probably Judges (DICT)).

dreamer - You are a DREAMER (SIAF)--reserved and imaginative. You are basically the shy, silent type. You don't have much interest in facts and figures or most of what’s going on around you, but the internal worlds you build for yourself are rich and complex. Luckily, your creativity and strong heart mean you have a deep personality evident to anyone who gets to know you. It's just that not many people do, because most everyone thinks you’re a loser. Talk to yourself less, other people more, little shaver.

politician - You are a POLITICIAN (DEAT)--forceful, outgoing, and forward-looking. You are strong-willed and extroverted, so you enjoy interacting with other people. You aggressively pursue your goals. You are a POLITICIAN (DEAT)--forceful, outgoing, and forward-looking. You are strong-willed and extroverted, so you enjoy interacting with other people. You aggressively pursue your goals. Your creative style of thinking allows you to come up with unusual arguments and original ideas that appeal to others, but behind it all is an analytical mind that never forgets the bottom line. While some might see you as manipulative, your close friends know you are a talented person who deserves the best in life. Whatever. You *are* manipulative. Whether you use your power for 'good' or 'bad', it's up to you.

performer - You are a PERFORMER (DEAF)--personable, self-assured, and excellent under pressure. You are extroverted and strong-willed, which, in combination means you are good with people and aren't willing to let opportunity pass you by. Congratulations. I’m sure all the peons you’ve stepped on never saw it coming and didn’t feel a thing. Anyhow, you have formidable creative talents, and you often following what your heart tells you instead of your logical mind. Your exuberance can earn you many friends and admirers, despite your ambition, or it can intimidate the less confident into keeping their distance.

Each of those answers came back when I took the test with a different email address.

If anyone is convinced I'm NOT crazy, let me know.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:31:42 PM
IP: max1-37.cwy.cei.net

TheSpark Tests!!! :)

Personality test: This is a little interesting...I'm a "Mastermind," or Submissive Introvert Abstract Thinker. :) You can be silent and withdrawn, but behind your reserved exterior lies an active mind that allows you to analyze situations and come up with creative, unexpected solutions. Normal people call this "scheming." Don't learn German.

Anyway, your sense of style and originality are your strengths, and people will respect your judgment once they get to know you. If you learn to be a little more personable, you could be a great leader--you've definitely got the "vision" thing down. Just make sure all the plotting you do behind those eyes of yours is healthy.

Famous masterminds in television: Dr. Claw, The Scarecrow and Mrs. King, Montgomery Burns.

Should I be scared or honored that I'm being compared to Montgomery Burns? :)

Match test: Hmm...apparently, I'm "The Mermaid," or "Independent Good Love Provider." Generous, affectionate, but possibly a figment of men's imaginations. In days of olde, sailors told the legend of the Mermaid, the beautiful maiden who lived beneath the waves and would save drowning men by pulling them safely to shore. You are similarly helpful to men tossed about by seas of emotional confusion.

You provide selfless kindness, and you nearly glow with love. However, you're not necessarily looking for a long-term commitment right now. In the future you will be, but perhaps you're new to romance or are coming off a hurtful relationship. It's fine to take your time with things, just don't devastate people when you keep your distance. Being sweet and charming yet at times aloof is most risky behavior. (next little bit is NOT CR appropriate) ;)

Wealth test: Dang...I have to wait until I'm 42 to be a millionaire. I'd better get working harder! ;)

Fleur> Hey! Thanks for the welcome back. :) I haven't been up to too much this summer...basically working at my summer job, doing a little bit of work on cars, and talking good ol' Coyote's ears off in the meantime. ;)

Josh> Thanks for telling me about the Statics class! It doesn't sound too bad, I guess...I was talking with another friend of mine who took the class, and he agreed that it was easy too. He just said that once it makes sense to you, it's easy. I'll let you know how it goes! ;)
Ravyn
Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:03:22 PM
IP: 216.183.198.219

Jan> Well, an Agnostic can't really be said to have a set of "religious beliefs" either. The whole point of Agnosticism is that they don't believe anything either way.

An Athiest certainly has "religious beliefs," but can't really be said to have a "religion," since his belief is that there is no higher power.

Of course, people CAN belong to the Athiest Church, but that's another story.

Oh, and get the blue wallpaper with the little grey and yellow scallops.
(Not that I have the slightest idea what the room you're papering looks like or anything, I just like blue)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:41:58 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Josh> Webster's Dictionary: "Religion - 1. belief in and worship of God or gods 2. a specific system of belief or worship, etc. built around God, a code of ethics, a philosophy of life, etc."
I believe that's what I said earlier. Even the *politically correct* definition says that it's a Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
Where does an atheist's beliefs fall into this definition? An agnositic maybe, but not an atheist.
<<And many people cherish and worship their own independence of mind and will fight for their atheism just as much as any crusader. >> yes, and your point? I agree and have never said otherwise. In fact, I said, "I respect your opinion and beliefs and will not ridicule or make fun of that."
Of course the Spark tests are not to be taken seriously! goober ;) Some of them I was laughing so hard it took me forever to finish them! *L*
Heart disease history - I guess it would depend on *why* your grandma had a heart attack. If it was from high cholestrol or some other genitive reason, then yeah I would think it could be considered as "family health history"
Just because someone hasn't had a heart attack, doesn't mean that they don't have heart problems. I've never had a heart attack and I still ended up with a quadruple bypass. Since your grandmother had a heart attack, it would be wise to at least be tested.

It's wallpaper shopping day... I'm off to the stores.. bye!
Jan
Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:32:05 AM
IP: modem18-118.mo-net.com

Hi all!

I'm sorry if this is short tonight but I have to be up in the morning and I'm tired(Busy day at work today :/)

Warpmind:<<Day Of The Tentacle? Dude, I WORSHIP that game; it is quite possibly the most hilarious adventure game to date. (Note the use of the word 'possibly' there. I'm not saying it is, but I'd be willing to bet money on it.) I'm also quite happy the game was made by a US company and not a Japanese one... };)>>(I'd pretty much agree with you,but Sam and Max was just as funny in some places and lets not forget the Secret of Monkey Island series,all classics. :)

Spacebabie:<<That Lucasart game it hasn't anything to do with naughty hentai tentacles does it? >>No it doesn't thankfully :),it's the sequel to Maniac Mansion and it was about these three kids how are out to stop a mutant tentacle from taking over the world,it was a hilarious game but I haven't played it for over five years so I don't remember much about it.

Josh:<>As was I.<>Each to there own,I can't stand the guy myself.

Take care everyone and I hope you all have a great weekend.:)

Xanathar - [ameader@bigpond.net.au]
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Thursday, August 16, 2001 07:13:40 AM
IP: cpe-203-45-26-71.vic.bigpond.net.au

Hey folks.

Today was not a good day in the grand scheme of Josh. Although some good things happened, some other stuff happened that's really dragging me down.

First, I fixed the mac in the art department. Piece of cake. Mostly just putzing around with stuff, updating, etc. Then I ordered a 512 chip for it. That's an end of "out of memory" messages for a while. Also, I decided to replace the aging burner there with my own 6x scsi CDRW, which is gonna become a doorstop as soon as my G4 comes in.

My dad paid me $100 for my burner. Sweet!

I took the death test today. When it went to calculate the results...it crashed. I can only assume this means that I will, in fact, live FOREVER.

Then I discovered that I probably won't finish what I planned to finish at work before I leave for school. I'm gonna try my hardest though and give instructions to the guy I work with on how to finish after I go. Stressed myself out too much worrying about how to make it work...that sucked.

Then I had to come home and go to a job that doesn't pay. Took ONE call. That's $4. Yay. But at least I got to touch base with my boss and tell him that he's got till saturday to impress me (saturday is my last summer day, in accordance with my agreement that I work all summer for the phone line). My friend Nico (yes, the one who just sent her album to a record label, she also works at MacTank with me) and I talked to the head admins for a while about the big green...and they were very open to discussion...but then again they don't write the paychecks. I hope I can get more, because I like this job. But I can't work for free.

Mom made gnocchi for dinner. It was pretty tasty.

AND, highlight of the day, I got to talk to my buddy across the country. It was brief, but special nonetheless.

Tomorrow I'm working all day too. That will probably suck.

God, I can't WAIT to go back up to school.

I managed to update my site some today. All the pictures aren't ready yet, but at least the links to your sites are there in the "hobbies" section. Check it out. If you're not there and want to be, let me know.

I realized today that I have a problem with the tests of various sorts. The questions aren't in depth enough. Here's why: they ask a lot of general questions, about what's more important or what's right/wrong. I answer them honestly, of course. The things that are more important to me and the things that I think are wrong. Basically, I don't think anything is wrong. I don't have a natural sense of morals. I just don't. I can't explain it, can't justify it. It's just the way I am. However, that doesn't mean I go around killing people left and right. Kind of a golden rule thing. I don't do it because it would suck if it were done to me. But these tests don't take that into account.

None of this means that the "iceman" thing wasn't accurate. It was by my past history. But I hope I won't be like that forever. Especially considering the number of girls the sex test said I'd sleep with...that number does NOT mesh well with "Maverick's" lifestyle.

Question: if your grandmother had a heart attack once (and lived), and no one else in your family has, do you "have a family history of heart attacks"?

More thespark.com scores
stress test: 16% Woohoo! I am UNSTRESSED! This is a real shocker to me, since my friends and family normally consider me a walking ulcer. I should either eliminate one of my jobs or consciousness...and guess what!? I'm gonna be doing both of those VERY soon! My stress level will be even lower!

gender test: "I am definitely a man" according to them. Interesting tidbit of info: men perfer falling than drowning to death. Is that because women are so stupid they'd like to die slowly and painfully? Also, women are slightly more likely to realize that clams are alive than men. How stupid are men!?

More test scores as they become available.

On to replies!

Fleur: <<Back again… Were you expecting otherwise>>: I dunno, its not like you're here frequently. <<We _can’t_ throttle people through the wires? You know, I wish you’d told me that earlier - my fingernails are just ruined!>>: I garotted my palms trying! <<_That_ is the only reason to work while the sun’s out>>: Yeah. Not that I'd go OUTSIDE when the sun is out, not in LA...I'd just sleep when the sun is out. <<He can put it on his business cards>>: Shouldn't it be on MY business cards? <<That, I was expecting>>: Guess I'm getting predictable. <<You’ve been here six months, during which, you’ve posted, if not every day, then close enough>>: Is that good or bad? <<Even skimming the posts, I got a picture of you – you’re just like half the people I know>>: Is THAT good or bad? <<You’re actually surprised that I said that when you’ve just told us your cousin’s given you free reign over her massive house?! *points like a little kid* I want!>>: Well, I do currently have designs on visiting her again in the winter...probably with a friend. You're a little far away, though. <<where did you friend do the tractor-driving in?>>: No clue. Australia somewheres. <<In two months, they can make enough to not have to work for the rest of the year. Wait. Maybe they’re not so insane after all>>: Yeah, it sounds like a good plan to me! Of course, I'm working this summer and refusing to work the rest of the year 8-) <<you two are like the Sith – Master and Apprentice (argue between yourselves over who gets what title>>: Well, he's older...but I don't know if that's better. Which do you think is which? <<Your kind of arrogance cannot be faked>>: ::shuffles feet and stares at ground:: Awww, shucks! You flatter me. <<Sure, go ahead (but only if I can link yours to mine>>: Go ahead. You know the name. <<I’m still a novice, of course, but hopefully, this new one will avoid fulfilling _every_ one of the ‘Ten things that make a website bad’ requirements. I’m going for just nine this time>>: Cutting the wallpaper will bring you down to nine. I think you can still do better. I can't wait to see the update. Will the url be the same? I'm a novice too. I roommate wrote the site, I just do the maintenance on the HTML. <<There’s that arrogance>>: You ain't seen nothing yet! <<The flaw in Bush’s declaration>>: No. His declaration was fair. Yeah, our country may be bigger, but everyone still needs to do their part. <<by virtue of being a Third world nation, they don’t have a hell of a lot of cars, or huge industries that release the gases>>: Unless they start industrializing and otherwise developing. Then it becomes a huge problem. <<it’s wonderful to watch some white haired, distinguished guy blithely admits to doing something borderline illegal>>: Next lecture: how to stay out of jail! <<If the public spanking idea is no go, drain their wallets dry>>: Spoken like a true American. <<A few ideas for profile categories could be>>: A brilliant idea! Wish I'd thought of them. Oh wait...I did ;-)

Xanathar: <>: I was joking. <<Now if only we could get this through to the Ricky Martin fans>>: I think Ricky Martin is pretty cool, actually. Not his music. But since his favorite band is Korn, I know that he's just raping pop fans through their wallets 8-)

Jan: <<Every time I hear it, I think I'm supposed to put my breast in an envelope and send it to someone>>: LOL! <<A "religion" is defined as believing in God>>: Um, no. Religion is defined as ANY form of worship. And many people cherish and worship their own independence of mind and will fight for their atheism just as much as any crusader. <<to reduce your stress level even further you should eliminate at least one of the following from your life immediately>>: Good plan! I'm gonna get rid of the consciousness. Sleep is literally how I prevent nervous breakdowns. <<we have determined that for a small bribe of 156 bucks, you'd spread a jar mayonnaise in your underwear and wear it for a month straight>>: They thought I'd do it for $100. <>: Me neither.

Baldy: <<Don't get your hopes up. *Ponders possible perks.* On second thought, DO get your hopes up>>: That's what I thought! <<why do you grace me with my regular handle, instead of calling me "Baldy" as you usually do>>: I was trying to be nice so you'd join me! <<what e-mail address do you use>>: not telling. wouldn't want you to be able to tell if I was lying about my scores! <<Which, if taken too literally, means I'm a scheming, insidious man who is gentle, caring, and ready to get busy with women who are fed up with uncaring, selfish egotistical men, i.e. they have met Josh. Do we have a working arrangement there, Mr. Wurzel?>>: SOLD! I wonder what it means if I'm an accountant and an iceman...

Saki: Do you even read our posts? Cuz I've comment on your stuff twice. <<what do they talk about there>>: Do we ever talk about gargoyles in here?

Queen of Pain: <>: Me too. I'm tired of having her at home and NOT bake cookies. Anyone who stays home all day (male or female) should be able to at least make cookies from dough. <<as for your offer on the computer...nah we already are planning on getting one in september>>: Me too, supposedly. And the laptop will have another buyer one way or another. <<Its not open, you made a moron out of me.>>: What a great quote. Use it against him. <<Mimi,Nichole, or Penelope>>: tough call. Probably Nicole. <<ets see her try to pull of "Paint it Black" of your would like to see her pull of something else>>: I don't care what she pulls off. As long as its an article of clothing.

Lain: <<warpmind is really REALLY trying to have a relationship with my answering machine>>: What a sick man.

Lynati: <>: LOL. I'm shocked and amazed. <<lain, Val, Aaron and Mara turning to Emambu: "No! you fool! you don't know what you've done! Once you get her started...she NEVER shuts up about it!>>: Hey, I want to be in that group too! <<Another smart-@$$ response, or a scary developement in the gargoyles universe>>: Next on Sick, Sad World!

DPH: <<I do get 3 weeks of severance pay, 5 additional weeks if I sign a waiver, which I did. I did get a free trip to a 2-day seminar on recovering from being laid off. I get paid for my accrued vacation (4.5) days>>: Not bad at all! <<INCOMPOTENT MANAGEMENT>>: You'd look a lot smarter if you could spell "incompetent" correctly. <<No person wants to hire any person without experience in that field, and no person can get experience in that field without getting hired>>: Or, "experience is something you don't get until just after you need it". <<there is definitely money in my pocket for that software I requested>>: It hadn't crossed my mind. I figured if you were still interested, you'd let me know. I'll be back up at school in about a week. We'll talk then. <<use both favorite color and image for the poster in question>>: Good plan. <<who is going to have the fun job of deleting somebody's profile when he/she hasn't showed up for 6 months and explaining 1 month later when the poster returns why the information was deleted>>: LM, of course! Unless she wants me to do it. I'm good at that. <<requiring him/her to post at least once a week for a good 6 months and 8 months if the person only posts once every 2 weeks or less>>: Oh good I make it!

Siofra: <<Party in Hell!>>: Of course! Would you expect any less from me? <<From the looks of it, you need all the calories you can get!>>: I think you're jealous. You and every other girl. <<I have no fear of ANY religion. I don't believe in any such things. I know that there are people who do and who attempt to tell others they are going to hell. To me, it's gibberish and has no effect on me>>: Awesome! <<it's your job to try to convert people (although poorly done), yet you don't push your faith on anyone?>>: Makes sense to me! <<Best buy had 128 for $30 with a $10 rebate>>: That's not a very good deal. You should buy online. No sales tax, sometimes free shipping, and prices are generally lower.

CrzyDemona: <>: I piss people off first. If they stick around, they're keepers! <<You pushed and pushed until I had had enough>>: Kinky. <<Fred freaked me out and you were his lacky>>: I hope you don't think *I* am ANYONE's lacky. That's really offensive. <>: What exactly does that mean? <<He has a more graceful arrogance about him>>: ::looks down, shuffles feet, turns red like Demona's hair:: Awww, shucks. <<DAMN IT, JOSH! Why'd you have to blow my cover like that!>>: Wait till I blow the lid off the next secret! <<and Josh, I know where you live too! BEWARE!>>: No you don't. You know I live in LA. Ooh, very impressive. <<One of the rules of creating scandal is that you need to ONE UP all the PREVIOUS scandals. :P ... amatures>>: All we need is the pictures. <>: NO SH!T. <<Selfish, flirty, moody. You like: romance, love, lust, gossip, pain, suffering, and emotional disembowelment. You dislike: anything that moves you from your palace at the center of the universe>>: I must not have gotten that one because I've never been in love. Other than that...you are way too similar to me. Now I have to destroy you. GB, Grab the camera! <<You want a guy, or maybe a bunch of guys, that will fawn over you, listen to what you have to say, and look good on your arm>>: Too bad you've only got one. <<and with that... I am greatly amused>>: So are we.

The Wizard: Great talking to you. <<Accountant. How in the heck did I pull that off>>: You're just too much like me. <<A whopping 90% pure>>: Easily fixed. <<"Pure Mountain Spring." I'd better be careful, or "men might use me to make beer.">>: LOL! Can you cook!? Tend bar!? <<although I'll have few relationships, all will be loving, trusting, and I'll still be great friends with the ones I don't end up with. I will find a soul mate>>: So will the soul mate be the one guy you sleep with this year? <<One person, age 19. And I'm 90% likely to die>>: During sex!? What a way to go! <<Sorry, all, but only 9% $lut>>: Well, guess the party is in someone else's room at G2k2! MINE! <<The first one's a male genius whose only flaw will be cleft chin>>: Beats my kids with a 10% chance of having no head! <<I'm only 27 % stressed>>: Wow. Impressive. I'm a living ucler. <<I'm 63% Un-Telligent>>: LOL.

Smut pandering bitch queen of all creation: <<for the gents as well! ::nudges Crzy:: I'm expecting at least one pic in particular>>: I'm scared.

Greg X: Okay, you're a greedy bastard politican. Want a spot on my cabinet?

Gside: <>: SWEET!

If you don't get it right the first time, reload.
-2cooltech.com

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Thursday, August 16, 2001 03:07:00 AM
IP: ppp-206-170-218-252.nhwd02.pacbell.net

Spark Tests:

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Personality Test: I am a PERFORMER! (DEAF)
personable, self-assured, and excellent under pressure. You are extroverted and strong-willed, which, in combination means you are good with people and aren't willing to let opportunity pass you by. Congratulations. I’m sure all the peons you’ve stepped on never saw it coming and didn’t feel a thing.

You like being naked.

Anyhow, you have formidable creative talents, and you often following what your heart tells you instead of your logical mind. Your exuberance can earn you many friends and admirers, despite your ambition, or it can intimidate the less confident into keeping their distance. It’s also possible you’re Madonna.
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I am 54% Slut... I REALLY thought that one would be higher. >:)

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Purity Test: I am 41% pure. Only 1% was like me. Special! (in a "little yellow bus" kind of way)

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I am 58% BITCH!

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The MATCH test:

I am the DRAMA QUEEN! (Bow to me!) Independent Evil Love Taker!!

Selfish, flirty, moody. You like: romance, love, lust, gossip, pain, suffering, and emotional disembowelment. You dislike: anything that moves you from your palace at the center of the universe. If Bette Midler were more attractive, she'd be a Drama Queen, but we don't let her use TheSpark.

Admit that you're slightly selfish, in need of love, and you talk a lot. You want a guy, or maybe a bunch of guys, that will fawn over you, listen to what you have to say, and look good on your arm.

OK, now that that's out on the table--in total, you're not so bad. You're quite affectionate once you find someone to meet your high standards. And you're assertive, which many people find refreshing. You will have a successful career because you're always ready to climb. Also, you're probably physically attractive. You move well (like a sophisticated woman) because of your self-awareness.

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.... and with that... I am greatly amused.
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Thursday, August 16, 2001 02:06:24 AM
IP: 1cust192.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

gside: <In other news, while driving a stint yesterday through Pennsylvania, I managed to imbed a sparrow in the front grill of the car>
ANIMAL KILLER!
...
On second thought... COOL! ;)
Fire Storm - [jeremycbcd@usa.net]
Thursday, August 16, 2001 01:56:15 AM
IP: 208.143.21.10

I returned home early this afternoon, but spent most of it catching up on webcomics. I may or may not make a complete catch up post, but I probably will respond to things said to me way back when.
In other news, while driving a stint yesterday through Pennsylvania, I managed to imbed a sparrow in the front grill of the car.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, August 16, 2001 01:39:25 AM
IP: proxy3-external.etntwn1.nj.home.com

Spark Tests

Purity – 60% *giggles* fooled them, huh? ;)

Personality - Like just 11% of the population you are a HELPER WHO FINDS MISSING CHILDREN OVER THE INTERNET (SICF). You are very tentative in the world and introverted with people--which means you are the shy and silent type. Hence the Internet. But behind your reserved exterior lies a dedicated person with a passion for the concrete truth who wants to, in his heart of hearts, help find missing children. God bless you.

Through rigorous testing, we've discovered that your compatibility with someone is exactly how likely you are to *kiss them when drunk*.

Match Test – I refused to answer #89. I just couldn’t bring myself to make a choice. But I am the same as Naimhgold, “Pure Mountain Stream”
It also said, “Giving and wholesome, no matter your age or experience, you will always be pure at heart. You sense the good in people, and it's part of your nature to cuddle. As a result, your relationships are deep and lasting, and part of each of them will be with you forever. It's likely that you're still friends with most of your exes.”

Slut test - 41% slut. Hehehe

Stress test – “You exhibit a stress percentage of 20% which barely registers. Get a job.

Your Stress Test answers indicate that to reduce your stress level even further you should eliminate at least one of the following from your life immediately:
1. your significant other. ( Never! )
2. your youngest child. (wonder if they’d consider my OLDEST child) ;)
3. consciousness. (naw, it’s fairly cleared right now.) ”

Wealth Test – I will make my first million in 11 more years.

Greed test – 57% and… “In addition, we have determined that for a small bribe of 156 bucks, you'd spread a jar mayonnaise in your underwear and wear it for a month straight.

Good luck with your future life.”

*blinks * I don’t think so! Gross!! *L*
Ok, that’s all of the testing that I took and had time for. Some of the questions were hilarious!
I think I’ve taken some of these tests before, but I don’t remember what the results were.

Christina> ack! I’m sorry to hear about Becca’s fingers and Tim’s muscles! That must have been difficult carrying her all the way back =\ Dental work… *shudders*

Awesome storm came thru here earlier : ) One time it had a flash of light and then a POP, instead of a clap of thunder. Kewlies! Hehe, Juanita barks back at the thunder… my brave little doggie ; )

~The hardest years of life are those between the age of ten and seventy~ (Helen Hayes at age 73)

Jan - [janmiller@mo-net.com]
Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:06:40 AM
IP: modem18-118.mo-net.com

*Thunder rumbles through the CR, and the lights dim. A sudden crack of thunder back-lights a figure standing in front of the fabric gate. Evil, Thailog-esque laughter is heard.*

Heh heh heh...He...asked for it...this one I can't be blamed for, I guess the blame goes to lain, 'cause I actually refrained from mentioning my Stories to Emambu in my email...and he still asked for me to send him some...
MWAHAHA.
*Has sudden mental image of lain, Val, Aaron and Mara turning to Emambu: "No! you fool! you don't know what you've done! Once you get her started...she NEVER shuts up about it!!" They all shake their heads, for it is already too late.*

Ooh, and I visually defined several more of my gargs in my version of Avalon...I owe Aris a thanks for the new site, and the fairly-easy veiwing of pics from the old clan Wyvern which are useful for feature-reference.

Oh, and according to a recent response in "Ask Greg", the majority of the gargs in the Pukhan clan look like Thom Adcox.

...Another smart-@$$ response, or a scary developement in the gargoyles universe...??

*Skips off to go inflict her "writing" on Emambu...Mwahaha*
Lynati "I believe in faries! *SMACK* Got one!" Kshudra - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 04:34:09 PM
IP: 207.226.219.25

I took three of the Spark Tests. Here's what I got.

Greed Test: 83%
Bastard Test: 85%

Personality Test:

POLITICIAN
(Dominant Extrovert Abstract Thinker )

Like just 5% of the population you are a POLITICIAN (DEAT)--forceful, outgoing, and forward-looking. You are strong-willed and extroverted, so you enjoy interacting with other people. You aggressively pursue your goals.

Your creative style of thinking allows you to come up with unusual arguments and original ideas that appeal to others, but behind it all is an analytical mind that never forgets the bottom line. While some might see you as manipulative, your close friends know you are a talented person who deserves the best in life.

Whatever. You *are* manipulative. Whether you use your power for "good" or "bad", it's up to you. If you're confused what good or bad means, ask a HEALER. Like EXPERIMENTERS, you have a propensity for cheating.

Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 03:49:57 PM
IP: dialin-367-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

"Never piss off the dental hygenist" -- The Book of Yor.

But I did. Made her stop using that little sonic cleaning pick thingie, the apparent purpose of which is to make her job easier while subjecting me to hideous squealing noises and the occasional head-splitting vibrations. She wasn't happy. And did I ever pay the price!

To top things off, Becca mashed her finger while on a hike with Tim. He had to carry her all the way back. So he's got strained muscles, and she's going to lose a nail but thankfully the finger's not broken. Antibiotics 4 times a day x10 days, though ... bandaged up ... poor kid! We're all in bad shape. :P

Green Baron > I see you've already picked up some German ; ) As for Lord V., I wasn't planning on writing him up but was going to have him be the one to hire the PCs.

Spacebabie > Tim's been watching Murder in Small Town X, so I'm peripherally aware of what's going on, and I agree, what do they have to do to get rid of that woman? LOL.

Warpmind > hope it arrives shortly!

Niamhgold > the Titania's Secret Catalog is open to undies and loungewear for the gents as well! ::nudges Crzy:: I'm expecting at least one pic in particular! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 03:25:28 PM
IP: 24-168.075.popsite.net

** Niamhgold enters briefly **

Curse TheSpark.com! ;) I took their tests, and I'm just so sorely disappointed. They are as follows:

Personality test: Accountant. How in the heck did I pull that off?
Purity test: A whopping 90% pure. Only 2% in the world are more pure than me. Good thing, or bad thing? Hmmm...
Match test: The only consistency in this series of testing, with the purity test. I came up as "Pure Mountain Spring." I'd better be careful, or "men might use me to make beer." ;) Also, this means that, although I'll have few relationships, all will be loving, trusting, and I'll still be great friends with the ones I don't end up with. I will find a soul mate (according to this thing). In the meanwhile, I've got to live "more in the present, not in the clouds." Yeah, so I checked that it would be worse to be "nothing but a critic" on the personality test, go figure ;)
Sex test: One person, age 19. And I'm 90% likely to die...
Which doesn't fit in with the Death Test, which says I'm going to die at the age of 68 with some strange viral disease ;)
B!tch test -- I'm only 25% b!tch. Only 14% are less b!tchy than me.
$lut Test -- Sorry, all, but only 9% $lut.
Greed test -- A nice, average, 51% greedy.
Wealth test -- D@mn, I have to wait until I'm 32 to be worth a million dollars.
Pregnancy test -- Well, this will fit into my grand million scheme quite well :) Only, possibly, 2 kids. The first one's a male genius whose only flaw will be cleft chin. Yuk yuk.
And I'm only 27 % stressed, according to the Stress Test.
According to the Un-Telligent test, I'm 63% Un-Telligent. Meaning I've got a better sense of humor more than anything else ;)
Gay test: 19%, which is lower than most of the population. Only 2% are less gay than me :)

Just thought that would be interesting since everyone else is apparently doing this :) Onward to more work!
Adios! :)
Niamhgold
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 02:23:16 PM
IP: lac-flex94.ncia.net

SJ - "Most people that don't like me? Doesn't really bother me. I figure I probably deserve it. I can take it if someone like Crzy doesn't like me, because I've given as much as I've received. But my response to you, if you don't like me, if "wah, wah, you aren't my friend", is simply this: F!CK YOU."

I am a lot like this as well. The big difference is that I generally try to be nice to people until they piss me off. If they don't like me for me.. fine, there are plenty out there that DO like me (not so much of a F!UCK YOU coming from me to those who dislike me). I'm not crying over it... believe me.

Also, you GAVE to me a long time before you received anything from me. You pushed and pushed until I had had enough. ::Shrugs:: But if it makes you feel better to think that I was bitchy to you from the start, I guess that's your own issue. I think most of your dislike for me stems from the fact that Fred freaked me out and you were his lacky. ah well.

Honestly, I dont HATE you. Sure, you aren't my favorite person. But you really don't piss me off all that much anymore. (guess you better try harder!) I like Josh a lot more than you simply because he can take it better than you can. He has a more graceful arrogance about him. I hope that doesn't burst your bubble too much, I know you like thinking I am your arch-rival or something like that. Whatever floats yer boat, buddy.

Josh - You said to SJ in regards to me: "I think she’ll post anything to piss you off because she’s really a fifth grader with a mad crush on you."

DAMN IT, JOSH! Why'd you have to blow my cover like that!! ;)

GB - AGAIN, regarding me and SJ: "Oh well, maybe we can get them drunk at G02, put them in the same bed with minimal clothing and take tons of pictures while they are passed out :) Who's up for such evil :)"

GAH!! GEEZ!! I'm trying to EAT here! BLARGH! Keep in mind, I know where you live! You aren't going to destroy my political career THAT easily! ;) (and Josh, I know where you live too! BEWARE!!)

Besides, me caught in bed with SJ isn't nearly as good as some of the other rumors about me... One of the rules of creating scandal is that you need to ONE UP all the PREVIOUS scandals. :P ... amatures.
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 01:18:43 PM
IP: 1cust7.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

Siofra> <<So, it's your job to try to convert people (although poorly done), yet you don't push your faith on anyone?>> Right.

Which doesn't really tell you anything. How 'bout this: I want people to accept my religion - I don't want to force people to act like they accept my religion even though they really don't.

If I'm doing my job right (which is rarely, since I'm not all that outgoing or charasmatic) I'll talk to people about my faith and try to convince them that they should believe as I do. If I make it that far, then I'll teach them what that faith means in concrete terms (like how to act, what to do, what not to do, etc...)

Until then, I'll pretty well leave folks alone to do as they please. (So even though I think people shouldn't have sex with people to whom they are not married, I don't support legislation against adultry - for example)

The only exceptions are acts that are directly harmful, which I try to stop because I'm compassionate. Even then I don't use my religion as a reason, I try to point out that the action is harmful.

More often that activly trying to convert people I just try to set a good example and tell anyone who asks why I act the way I do ("because that's what God wants me to do").

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 01:07:05 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Siofra> <<<<A Christian loving an athiest... yes that's possible... but not in the sense of being IN love.>> Please explain further...>>
I have explained this statement that I made in a few emails because I didn't want to beat a dead horse by raising this topic again... but since you asked... ;)
When I made that statement, I was in the mind frame of thinking in terms of brotherly/sisterly love and not a romantic type love. So many times Christians are accused of not loving someone who has an opposing opinion or behaviors that they find offensive and wrong. As Christians, we are to love our fellow mankind - no matter what they believe in or choose to do. We are to love the person, but hate the sin/wrongdoing. That's the type of love that I was referring to. I typed that in haste that morning and didn't explain myself very well. I did go on to say in that same post that it IS possible for a christian/atheist to be in love.
<> That's about as different as they get...>> being an atheist is not a religion. A "religion" is defined as believing in God - atheist do not believe in God. The religious affliations that Kit mentioned - both believe in God, which is the foundation of all christian beliefs. That is more workable between two people than if one believes and the other does not.
<<I have no fear of ANY religion. I don't believe in any such things. I know that there are people who do and who attempt to tell others they are going to hell. To me, it's gibberish and has no effect on me.>> which is just as much your right to believe as I do about spellcasting. Only time will tell who is really correct. ;) I respect your opinion and beliefs and will not ridicule or make fun of that. I hope that you can offer the same respect for those who do believe in Christianity. :)

DPH> well, as far as severence packages go, you didn't get a bad deal... they technically don't have to offer you anything. (unless it's written policy or a presidence has been set) I wish you well on your job hunting adventures.
I will begin searching for a job sometime in October. I could use the extra income and well.. I'm bored.

Rayvn> having way tooooo much stuff... boy oh boy can I relate to that! *L* 4 of the largest storage units available, loaded to the max, no more room for anything else and I still have an apartment full of "stuff". I was trying to begin packing here today, but somehow my boxes have all disappeared! *blinks* I brought the stuff up in boxes, I didn't throw the boxes away.. but I have about 3 empty boxes available. go figure.
'talk about a massive garage sale next spring! I'm getting rid of a LOT of stuff!

Spacebabie> *giggles* a teacher friend of mine sent me these quotes ;) I thought they were funny too *L*

~My second favorite household chore is ironing.
My first being hitting my head on the top bunk bed until I faint. ~
-Erma Bombeck-

Jan
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 12:56:02 PM
IP: modem17-94.mo-net.com

Whoo, lots of catching up to do...went on an impromptu 'girls' weekend up north' with my boyfriend's mom, 15 year old sister, and her friend. We had fun, went on the boat, rode the jet-skis, saw JP3. The movie wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, either.

Okay, some of this stuff is a little stale, but I still wanted to say some things...

Josh: <<Hey, you can hang with me! It’ll be fun!>> Party in Hell!!
<<<<im a CLOSET Christian>>: I thought Christianity didn’t allow people to be in the closet? >> LOL!!!<<My mother taught me that if it’s not chocolate, its not worth the calories! >> From the looks of it, you need all the calories you can get! ;-)

Jan: <> I have no fear of ANY religion. I don't believe in any such things. I know that there are people who do and who attempt to tell others they are going to hell. To me, it's gibberish and has no effect on me.
<<A Christian loving an athiest... yes that's possible... but not in the sense of being IN love.>> Please explain further...
<> That's about as different as they get...
<<each will try to prove that they are correct and would want the other to admit it>> People do that all the time, and not just over religious issues...its a part of human life.

David G.: <> <<It's my job (one I do very poorly) to try to convince people to change the course of their lives so that they will no longer be going there. >> <<Up until then, they're fair game though.>> So, it's your job to try to convert people (although poorly done), yet you don't push your faith on anyone?
Firestorm: <<local computer shows or do you just stick to the stores>> Stores...Best buy had 128 for $30 with a $10 rebate.
<<Leeloo>> Love that movie!

Revel: << Besides Josh will keep me company>> Me too!!

Okay, enough for now. Gotta find some food...

Lynati: Hey, ran out of time right now, but I'll e-mail you back later ;-)

Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Michigan
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 12:18:49 PM
IP: pm497-17.dialip.mich.net

1st, if anyone does have questions about my being laid off, I will gladly scan my letter and post it to my website.

**BENEFITS**
I do get 3 weeks of severance pay, 5 additional weeks if I sign a waiver, which I did. I did get a free trip to a 2-day seminar on recovering from being laid off. I get paid for my accrued vacation (4.5) days. If it had been next week, I would have had my full 5 days of vacation AND a raise.
**END BENEFITS**

**INCOMPOTENT MANAGEMENT**
There was 'writing on the wall' for the employees. My problem was if things were that bad, why wasn't hours cut last month? That would have slowed down production enough to where it might have been a few more weeks before layoffs had to occur.

One lady mentioned she was asking about a loan from the credit union last week and not one word was mentioned about what was going to happen.

Let this be a lesson: you don't want a complete optimist in charge of your plant. He/she will wait until things are really bad before acting and by then, the only choice will be layoffs.
**INCOMPONENT MANAGEMENT**

Netaddress still offers a free service - at least to me.

It's time to pull out my old resume. Hehe. It's not the resume that gets you in the front door, it's what's on the resume. No person wants to hire any person without experience in that field, and no person can get experience in that field without getting hired.

Imzadi - there is definitely money in my pocket for that software I requested.

Spacebabie - I've tried to bait Wilek into posting already.

I need to lower my life insurance premium until I get another job. I have already stopped automatic transferrance of money into my savings account. I do need to get my back fixed ASAP before applying for another job.

Calendar - use both favorite color and image for the poster in question. BTW, who is going to have the fun job of deleting somebody's profile when he/she hasn't showed up for 6 months and explaining 1 month later when the poster returns why the information was deleted. I would suggest before entering information on a poster, requiring him/her to post at least once a week for a good 6 months and 8 months if the person only posts once every 2 weeks or less.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:49:35 AM
IP: max1-33.cwy.cei.net

*Enters*
Heh. The dial-up connection hasn't been working here for the last two and a half days. Is now, tho.

...and I just realized that I don't have anything else to say. *shrugs*
*Gone*
Lynati
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:44:14 AM
IP: 207.226.219.111

Here I am at UTSA, having just spent two hours in a line to get a ten second explanation for what I need to do next to cover payment for next semester, which looks to be another 2 or three hour process. Yay. Aaron, you covered your payments for next semester yet? Final deadline on that stuff is tommarrow...

Spacebabie- I'd have to give most of those fights to the Slayers cast. The Slayers gang just has mor versatility. Yeah the gargs have the wings and strength and stuff, but the Slayers group has faced much more powerful stuff than the Gargs cast, and most of 'em know magic of some variety or another. (And most of them know Ray wing, so they can actually FLY as opposed to the garg gliding.) MAYBE Hudson versus Zangulus could go in Hudson's favor, but with that Howling sword thing, I dunno... I could also see Demmie beating Lina due to the immortality factor, but I suppose this is where we get to test the theory of" If a nuke gets dropped on Demona, does she survive due to her link to Macbeth?" Thats a question Greg Weisman won't answer sinc its too hypothetical, but since we're talking hypothetical here anyway. Puck meeting Xellos tho... Hmm. They'd go out and party more likely, actually... Vinnie versus Martina... Vinnie has sheer dumb luck on his side, but then, so does Martina... Most likely they'd both screw up and never harm each other, but cause massive destruction around them... I'll say that one's a draw. (And if its Martina pre-Zangulus, she falls in love with Vinnie and tries to marry him, pure and simple.)
Robby
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:01:14 AM
IP: 129.115.233.43

*pounces on emambu*
BWA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!! CUTE-CHEEKS IS BAAAAAACK!!!! : D

(tee hee.. that was toooooo easy.. : D)
yes, sweetie, I will send those plot lines and stuff.. but you'll have to wait till I can have enough time to get them out of my head and onto a transferable medium. THEN you can have them, I promise!

jannie>> you have a big long honkin email today, it was just sent!! it includes some shiney epiphinies.. and some whipped cream.. ; )

josh>> yes, that was NOT celcius..

in other news, warpmind is really REALLY trying to have a relationship with my answering machine and he also seems to not understand the part about when i post i am "going to work now" it means i WON'T BE HOME AND HE SHOULD STOP LEAVING SURPRISED AND SAD MESSAGES ABOUT ME NOT BEING HOME!!!!
sheesh.. men these days.. ; )

anyway, since i didnt get much sleep tonight, i am going home to SLEEP (are you paying attention warpmind?????? youd BETTER be..)

okie dokie.. me go now.

love you!
lain - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 09:31:21 AM
IP: dbwref010.lib.uwo.ca

oops Gomen for the second one ok?

Space babie>>>> oops ok Naga vz. Elisa that's ok but hmmm Lex and Sylphiel vs Philia (the golden dragon) and Giles or maybe Valgave? well anyway again here to say hello and hope to wirte to ya soon.

Sayonnara,

Saki ^_~.
Saki Asameeya - [Ksmiley-TSroberts@woldrnet.att.com]
Glendale, AZ, USA
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 08:55:55 AM
IP: 77.phoenix-02rh15rt-az.dial-access.att.net

Space babie>>>>Hey your forgetting Naga and Emilia. So maybe
Angela vs Emilia
Elisa vs. Naga the serpent (hmm in japanese Naga means snake or serpent too weird huh?)

anyway just to say hello and I'm back to the comment room. I posted something in the adult thingy what do they talk about there? it doesn't seem like gargoyles? but Whatever.

Sayonnara,

Saki A.
Saki Asameeya - [Ksmiley-TSroberts@woldrnet.att.com]
Glendale, AZ, USA
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 08:51:47 AM
IP: 77.phoenix-02rh15rt-az.dial-access.att.net

Forgot to add a few thinfs. Gomen, or sorry for the second post.

WE got the airconditioner permantly fixed yesterday. The guy had to do some saudering wich caused the place to be all smokey, and that set off the smoke alarm.

Josh>>>You want to be Tom Cruise? Ok but who would you prefer? Mimi,Nichole, or Penelope. and as for Brittney singing Satisfaction sure she may have done a decent version of it, but lets see her try to pull of "Paint it Black" of your would like to see her pull of something else.
Spacebabie
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 08:02:15 AM
IP: proxy.lga.netsetter.com

DPH>>>HUG, I hope you feel better and I believe you will get a better job.

Fleur>>>Good luck on your test.

Xanthar>>> That Lucasart game it hasn't anything to do with naughty hentai tentacles does it?

Aeris>>>an ad on to when I said chll, What I mean to say is that if everyone decided to leave after they have been insulted this room would be empty.

Josh>>>Good work on getting your brother's computer to work, also I hope your mom's idea flourishes. as for your offer on the computer...nah we already are planning on getting one in september.

Jannie>>>Love em quotes keep em coming.

Emambu>>Holy potatos everyone is coming out of the woodworks

Wilek>>>Now is your time to make an entrance!

Murder in Small Town X>>> Anyone else been watching this? Gawd that Kriseten is hard to get rid off.

Funny story about my brother. He wanted a new lamp for his room so my dad told him to go to the new Target. well a little while later he calls us and says
"Its not open, you made a moron out of me."

Gargoyle Fight Club..Vs Slayers Characters
Brooklyn vs Zelgadis((My favorite character vs my favorite character))
Broadway vs Gourry
Angela vs Amelia
Demona vs Lina((The battle of Red headed sorceress))
Hudson vs Zanglus
Goliath vs Rezo
Thailog vs Koppi
Puck vs Xellos
Sevarius vs Eris
Vinnie vs Martina

Can't think of one for Sylphiel and Lex...and no I don't think they should be paired off with each other.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 07:53:36 AM
IP: proxy.ord.netsetter.com

*walks in arm in arm with two male gargoyles escorts*
(talk abotu over portective parents that are willing to do anything ^_^)

Hi everyone I hoped ya liked my first story becuase I had a new Idea for a second one. I will title it Daughter of Darkness it involves Dr. Anton Sevarius, Demona and a special girl code named Zoen or as she likes to be called Zoey. Let's just say it invovles romance, action, adventure and all that other mumbo jumbo. Well until then everyone.

Sayonnara,

Saki S ^_~
Saki Asameeya - [Ksmiley-TSroberts@woldrnet.att.com]
Glendale, AZ, USA
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 07:04:11 AM
IP: 89.phoenix-02rh15rt-az.dial-access.att.net

*Warpmind enters, a 15-foot dragon trudging happily along behind him.*
Appropriate temporal greetings, everyone. Anyone able to take in that fella? I gave him a piece of candy, and he kinda followed me here...

Josh: Don't get your hopes up. *Ponders possible perks.* On second thought, DO get your hopes up. };) And why do you grace me with my regular handle, instead of calling me "Baldy" as you usually do? And by the way, when you take the Spark tests... what e-mail address do you use? I can't seem to locate your results for comparing...

Incidentally: According to the Personality test, I'm a Mastermind, and the Match test describes me as a Boy Scout. Which, if taken too literally, means I'm a scheming, insidious man who is gentle, caring, and ready to get busy with women who are fed up with uncaring, selfish egotistical men, i.e. they have met Josh. Do we have a working arrangement there, Mr. Wurzel? };)

Fleur: Stand there nobly? Indeed I did. And I was sorely tempted to say "What do all you people WANT?", even though it would probably not have much credibility at this stage. ;)

Xanathar: Day Of The Tentacle? Dude, I WORSHIP that game; it is quite possibly the most hilarious adventure game to date. (Note the use of the word 'possibly' there. I'm not saying it is, but I'd be willing to bet money on it.) I'm also quite happy the game was made by a US company and not a Japanese one... };)

Well, that about sums it up. Later. *Wanders out, dragon still in tow.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 06:39:11 AM
IP: garibaldi.ti.telenor.net

forgot to add last night:

Kiaoto> loved the link! I'm afraid that sometimes I sink to the lower levels when arguing or debating. I try not to, but....

Lady Mystic> wow! That's quite a page you are planning to set up! I think it's great and I appreciate the work and time that you are willing to put into it. THANKS!

~Whoever thought up the word "Mammogram"?
Every time I hear it, I think I'm supposed to put my breast in an envelope and send it to someone.~
-Jan King-

Jan
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 06:32:17 AM
IP: modem17-94.mo-net.com

Hi all!!
I had a nice quiet day,as soon as I got home from work I had a little Anime marathon on my own DVD player(I don't get many opportunites to kick back these days. )

Warpmind:<<Sorry about ruining D2X for you... But honestly, don't try to tell me you never thought in those directions when you saw the cutscene between Lut Gholein and Kurast? ;)>>Just kidding with ya,dude! :) and yeah I did see a connection at the end of act 2(It's even more disturbing when you realise that it's the angel with the tentacles ;),that reminds me,do you remember an old Lucasarts game called"Day of the Tentacle"? ;)

Ravyn:<<Man, there's nothing like having to move out, and then realizing you have WAYYYY too much stuff. ;)>>Yeah,there's also nothing like finding that water has gotten into the container with your stuff in it during the trip,like it did to me once.I hope you have better luck than I and that it all goes smoothly.:)

DPH:<<bad news: I got laid off my job today. I get 8 weeks severance pay. More post later.>>I'm sorry to hear that friend.I hope you find a better job soon.(it will definately be better than my job,you can count on it.)

Emambu:Welcome back,if only for a short time.

Josh:<<Sorry about that. We'll try to type slower ;-)>>Cute.I ain't as think as you dumb I am! ;)<<No, but many others did.>>Ignorence strikes again. :)(Now if only we could get this through to the Ricky Martin fans*shudders at the meare utterance of that name* )

Fleur:<<I’ll email you tomorrow or Friday at the latest.>>I look forward to it.

I've gotta go,take care all!!*grabs a Serial experiments Lain DVD off the bookshelf and walks out the door*

Xanathar - [ameader@bigpond.net.au]
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 04:21:56 AM
IP: cpe-203-45-26-71.vic.bigpond.net.au

Back again… Were you expecting otherwise? (ARRGH! It's drawing me in! I can't escape!!)

Robby> >Would that be Crocadile Dundee, Paul Hogan, or Crocadile Hunter, Steve Irwin? Nice to see you around here again in any event.< *sheepish* Opps. I meant the Crocadile Hunter, otherwise known as the ‘mad ba$tard’. Serves me right for writing at 1am. Thanks for the welcomes, BTW.

Lynati> >That's okay, Fleur. I'll do it for you.< *g* Thank you. You’re much better at GLOMMing than I am. ;)

Shadowrider> >About the G8 summit in Genova, yes it was a very insane thing...luckily, I had been placed in a zone that turned on to be one of the most tranquil, and we had no problem in controlling the situation...the only consequences for me actually could be on the legal side. < Erk. That happened in Melbourne, too. Because it was a three-day summit, and so insane, by the third day, the cops had gotten a bit sick of being beaten and spat on by the protestors, and having to stand by while they trashed the place, and used greater force. Maybe too much force, but I can’t really blame them, given how much crap they went through. The legal side of it all is still going on, and frankly, the only people I think who are going to achieve anything through these protests are reporters and lawyers.

Fire Storm> ‘Wriggling’ out of the woodwork, I think. ;)

Ravyn> HELLO! Welcome back! Now, it’s been _ages_, so do me a favour and spill all! Whatcha been up to? :)

Hey Kiaoto! *blinks innocently* We _can’t_ throttle people through the wires? You know, I wish you’d told me that earlier - my fingernails are just ruined!! Heyas and all the best, BTW (I’d say welcome back but that’s kinda redundant since you just ‘popped in’ Heh. You’ll be back. I thought I could escape too… ;))

Josh>> I did. Believe me, I did. The only part I didn’t enjoy was working…but I got a new computer oot of it so I think it was worthwhile.< _That_ is the only reason to work while the sun’s out. :) >I’ll tell my dad (that’d be the King of Vinyl) that you said that. He’ll think its hysterical.< He can put it on his business cards. Sure to freak out the competition ;) >Do you really think I’ve never met an Aussie? Well I have.< Never said that. I just said we don’t sound like them. (And I will continue to say that, despite all evidence to the contrary, until my dying day.) >I’m working on the whole “walk on water” thing. Really.< Cork boots might help with that.>Depends on what/who I’m worshipping. On “her”, I tend to use more than my hands. And while “worship” is DEFINITELY a euphemism, I don’t need to know that much aboot other’s techniques.< That, I was expecting ;) >Ya know, I don’t remember posting that many comments to you. You must be reading my posts a lot to make that kind of judgement. You would, of course, be right.< Two reasons: 1. You’ve been here six months, during which, you’ve posted, if not every day, then close enough. 2. Even skimming the posts, I got a picture of you – you’re just like half the people I know ;). >How’d you survive?! < It was the hardest thing I’ve ever had to endure *sniff* >WOW! Flattering! And you’ve never even met my friends and relatives. But I confess that for the most part they’re pretty cool. I don’t have any friends in Biker gangs, but I do have one who drove a tractor in Australia for an entire year for some ridiculous amoont of money. ;-) But when you hear aboot a small upstart computer company that does Mac software built by Berkeley programmers…those are all friends of mine too. As for the homes…they rule, I confess. My family has excellent taste. < You’re actually surprised that I said that when you’ve just told us your cousin’s given you free reign over her massive house?! *points like a little kid* I want!! BTW, where did you friend do the tractor-driving in? (This is how some of my insane fellow students make bucketloads of money in their holidays – head up the Top End and start with the elbow grease on the big farms or the mines. In two months, they can make enough to not have to work for the rest of the year. Wait. Maybe they’re not so insane after all). >You never thought I was really SJ? Sh*t, gotta work on that.< Nah, you two are like the Sith – Master and Apprentice (argue between yourselves over who gets what title ;)) >: Ironically, I came in here trying to NOT demonstrate those flaws. But you guys became such great friends that it made sense to turn here when I did have problems. If I never posted my problems, would you think I was real?< Yeah. Problems and flaws were just the examples I was using. I’ve never doubted for one reason: Your kind of arrogance cannot be faked. :P > I was gonna say IKEA, but that works too.< LOL! >I’d like to link to your site on my webpage, that alright? Also, I have a minor comment on your site: that floating gargoyles logo backgroond makes it IMPOSSIBLE to read the text. ;-) < I’m honoured. Sure, go ahead (but only if I can link yours to mine). And the background is a very endangered species – I’m working on a better website, since the current one is a perfect example of what happens when you let a HTML novice near a computer. I’m still a novice, of course, but hopefully, this new one will avoid fulfilling _every_ one of the ‘Ten things that make a website bad’ requirements. I’m going for just nine this time. >Better not! My brother is gonna be CRUSHED if Aaron isn’t real. And I have pictures that say they are. And I’m always right. Therefore they exist.< There’s that arrogance. :) And I’ve got to check out those quizzes.

About the Kyoto agreement – Okay, I simply don’t know enough about what Bush has said, or anything else like that, because I haven’t been following it, and for a whole variety of reasons, I’m not picking sides, either. (Mostly because I did a semester on the Greenhouse effect back in my first year of uni, and the only thing I got out of it was a confusion headache.) But one thing has stuck out.
The flaw in Bush’s declaration is not just that the developing countries can’t afford to make the necessary changes the agreement asks for, (while the developed countries can) but that the contribution of every developing nation to the increase of Carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in our atmosphere could be added together and _tripled_, and it would still not equal the contribution of the United States, or even some of the other countries, including Australia. It’s a _tiny_ figure, it really is, simply because, by virtue of being a Third world nation, they don’t have a hell of a lot of cars, or huge industries that release the gases. Think of it as the difference between a bucket of water and an Olympic-sized swimming pool. I’m not saying that he should or shouldn’t sign the agreement, just that Kyoto agreement did not include the developing nations because it’s rather redundant, since they don’t do the damage.

And speaking of decisions, my lecturer mentioned yesterday that the USA's decision on Stem Cells is really good for my university. Why? Because we’re now apparently one of the highest quality providers of Stem Cells in the world, which equals lots of money for us. What’s funny is that our methods of getting them weren’t exactly according to _our_ state government’s wishes in the first place. Hehe, it’s wonderful to watch some white haired, distinguished guy blithely admits to doing something borderline illegal... :)

Warpmind> Ah, the wonders of DNA testing…. Yea! And my advice is: If the public spanking idea is no go, drain their wallets dry. :) The huge public apology was good too – did you get to stand there nobly while they begged your forgiveness? ;)

Xanathar> I’ll email you tomorrow or Friday at the latest.

Lady Mystic> *does another jaw drop* There you go again, impressing me. Stop it, will ya? ;) Okay, I’m all for the idea, especially since it might make this place a little less daunting for first-time posters if they have an idea of who each person is. A few ideas for profile categories could be: Posting name, Real name, birthdate, email address, homepage, home state/country, contact info (like IM etc.), gathering notches on your belt, a spot to brag about your gargoyles writing or artwork… ;)

DPH> Owch. Sorry about your job woes.

*sigh* Well, now I’ve got to go study for a big, ugly immunology test. Wish me luck!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, August 15, 2001 03:19:39 AM
IP: proxy2.mel.pacific.net.au

Hey folks!

I woke up this morning at around 8 to play with my bro's iMac and determined if it really did have to be taken in. I fixed it! He can now dual boot OS X 10.0.3 and OS 9.1. Joy! Now lets see what other updates I can run...

First day back at work wasn't too bad. First I had to look at the mac in the art department, because supposedly it wasn't working. It was working fine. The idiots at their tech place told them that they were experiencing crashes because the ram dimms were different speeds. It didn't occur to them to update the OS or to update the firmware.

Then I spent 20 minutes looking for a feature in the program I work with that I couldn't find. Had to call tech support for the program. They're gonna get back to us...never.

Then I actually sat down to work at 1015AM. Thus began the planning phase of the last part of what I'm doing for the software this summer, which is adding a new feature to a particular product line (I've already added the feature to the other product lines). It took me all morning to plan out what I need to do to implement these changes, and by the end of the day I'd only finished two products out of twelve, neither of which actually HAD the changes I originally planned to make (I had a bunch of clean-up changes to make in the program as well).

Then I saw American Pie 2 with my parents. It was REALLY funny, easily as good as the first one. Nadia doesn't get naked, though (yes, it was STILL as good).

In other news, it seems my mom is devoting less effort to finding a job and more to starting her own consulting company. She'll need a laptop, and guess who owns the prime candidate? That's right, my mom may once again have need for Britney. That means a new iBook for me isn't far off. That's TWO new computers in a year. God I'm lucky. I know you guys think I'm horribly spoiled; you'd be right. I do, however, realize it and thank everything and everyone for everything I've gotten. I don't believe in god, so I don't thank him, but I do thank the people responsible (my parents).

From thespark.com
I am 52% pure (purity test)
The number of girls I've slept with will quadruple, and I will actually love 3 of them (sex test)
I will make my first million by age 34 (that long, damn! - wealth test)
I am 73% greedy (der! - greed test)
I will likely have 2 children, though I'm not pregnant right now. The most likely birth defect of my children is "no head" (the pregnancy test)
there is no woman on the planet who would, in their right mind, sleep with me (the match test - guess I know where I'm gonna meet the women the sex test mentioned!). But DAMN I got some high ratings on sex experience and testosterone (no idea where those could have come from!)

Actually, I'd like to post what thespark.com actually said about me on the "match test", because its eerily true. For all you gals out that there that think I'm really a nice guy who just hasn't done SOMETHING right, and for all you guys that know what kind of slimeball I am, this is for you:

I am "The Iceman"

Calm, cool, collected, erected. You have two interests: (1) sex and (2) leaving women in trembling heaps as you walk calmly for the door. While you close it behind you and leave her forever, her wounds may never heal. And this is after just the first date. Luckily, you're not particularly interested in, or deserving of, a long-term relationship. So at least the damage is limited.

When you *do* date, you never act needy, and you somehow still manage to get what you want. Lust moves you, and you're selfish about it. You seek that special someone who can bring you pleasure while you steamroll them. (the next sentence is not CR appropriate)

In general, your life is exciting and full of risks. You like challenges, games, and physical relief. And you're meticulous, efficient, and intelligent, just like that guy in Top Gun, Maverick.

Okay, so here's what I found interesting about that: it said "Maverick", not "Iceman". That would be Tom Cruise, not Val Kilmer. Any test that relates me to Tom Cruise is one that rocks, since chicks dig Tom Cruise (I guess I'll have to get rid of my "I am Brad Pitt" shirt).

Green Baron: <<we were cruel to him, but he was a sheisskopf>>: That word is NOT CR appropriate! Yes, I do know what it means! <<he could still be Crzy's son from the future>>: He's a cat in a person suit! <<maybe we can get them drunk at G02, put them in the same bed with minimal clothing and take tons of pictures while they are passed out>>: I've got a digital camera, so we can then edit the images to make them do whatever we want! <<Who's up for such evil>>: I am, of course! <<There is a possibility I'll be in Kosovo during G02>>: Wow, that would suck dude. <<you are prone to make decisions on emotions as opposed to reasearch>>: I'm not sure if that was mean or not. In my case, it'd be a bald-faced lie. <<Why you make it sound like some Machiavellian soap opera>>: Because it IS!

Queen of Pain: <<We had another exiting thunderstorm last nigh, the kind that would cause the people in the D.C. area to wet their pants in fear>>: Wow. Wish I'd been there. <>: A truly great string piece. <<Josh is cynical and I guess he kind of got frustrated at you asking the same question over and over thought many wre giving you answers>>: No, I just got frustrated with the gaping hole in his logic. <<the one I have now is slow as crap and the printer is crap>>: I have one of each for sale, if you're interested ;-) <<Glad you made it back to L.A saftley>>: Me too. <<Your parents liked American Pie? Coolies>>: My parents are cool...most of the time.

Xanathar: <<sometimes the topics in the room go way over my head>>: Sorry about that. We'll try to type slower ;-) <<this place was a nice little sancturary from the real world,populated by the happily insane>>: I'll take your word on it. <<*ROTFLMAO* you needed proof!?>>: No, but many others did.

Warpmind: <<Dunno which revolution, though. Depends on which one I'm aiding strikes first>>: I hope its mine. <>: It was, but she performed it at the MTV something or other wearing next to nothing. So I think of her whenever I hear it. As IF she had trouble getting play. <<song was also listed as #1 most likely Windows XP soundtrack>>: I don't doubt it!

Ravyn: <<there's nothing like having to move out, and then realizing you have WAYYYY too much stuff>>: I remember the end of my freshman year looking around my room, thinking "oh sure, all this stuff will definitely fit in a BMW 7-series (this is as close to a YACHT as cars get)", only to have to cram everything in and barely fit in myself for the trip home. Now we've learned to ship stuff. Lots of stuff 8-) Good thing, since we're driving up in a 3-series instead of an X5! <<Statics (what the heck does that mean?>>: Statics is the first half of mechanics. Its physics WITHOUT motion. Just balancing forces, basically. EASY. I walked through that class (though a lot of people found it hard for some reason...guess that either makes me brilliant or them retards - though it could be both!). Don't worry about it. Its mostly a civil engineering class, really, since we deal with stuff that doesn't move (aka Static).

Lain: <<the thermometer told me i had a temperature of 101.3>>: That better be Fahrenheit and not Celcius.

Greg: Way to post! Don't take crap from anyone!

DPH: Bummer, dude! Best of luck in the imminent job hunt. At least you got severance pay.

Robby: <<Tim Burton was apparently in so much of a hurry to get to the surprise ending, he didn't really set it up all that much>>: Idiot. (him, not you)

Jan: <<I'm old?? *L* geesh thanks>>: I'm sorry, it must be someone else who's about to be a grandmother. <<throws my walker at you* young whippersnapper>>: When my friend turned 20 and we were railing on him, he said "::hits Josh with cane:: quiet, damn punks!" <<It's plucking your eyebrows. That's how I originally got pierced ears>>: LOL!

Okay folks, that's all. I just finished an 8-million page email to a good friend, so I'm crashing.

Holy shit! Silent Bob's an insturment of god?
-Jay, Dogma

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 11:47:40 PM
IP: ppp-206-170-217-137.nhwd02.pacbell.net

*peeks in*

This post isn't big enough to warrent my typical Phoenix Gate pic. Anyway, since everyone else seems to be coming out of the woodwork, I guess I should also post to let you all know I'm still alive as well. I'm working two jobs which is what's keeping me away from posting, but hopefully I should finish enough of my story so I can submit it to Avmists. I hope. ;) And with school starting I'll have more free time (depressing, I know) so maybe I'll get to return to regular posting within the next two weeks.

Anyway, if anyone feels like chatting my e-mail address is below. It's also my MSN name, and my AIM name is now Halloway77.

Lain: You jerkface, it was great talkig with you. :) Don't forget to send me the background information for your characters.

Take care all,

---Emambu
Emambu - [erikmambu@hotmail.com]
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:28:54 PM
IP: cc1004014-a.wlgrv1.pa.home.com

DPH> argh! I'm really sorry to hear that you've lost your job. =( Keep your chin up and certainly some other job will come your way :)

Josh> I'm old?? *L* geesh thanks. ;p Well, as Bette Davis once said, "old age ain't no place for sissies" ;)
*throws my walker at you* young whippersnapper... kids these days have no respect, I tell ya.

Lain> no email for me?? *sniffles* hehe, I guess you saved the best for last, huh? ;)

Ravyn> *giggles* I'll email you asap :)

You know the hardest thing about having cerebral palsy and being a woman? It's plucking your eyebrows. That's how I originally got pierced ears.
-Geri Jewell-

Jan - [janmiller@mo-net.com]
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 07:49:20 PM
IP: modem25-328.mo-net.com

Gotta be brief, but oh well...

Ending of Planet of the Apes(no spoilers)- I haven't been able to comment on this as I haven't seen the movie, but today at work, the ending was spilled to me, and I went, "Ohhhhh." The reason the ending doesn't make sense folks, is because it was taken almost directly from the original book, while the rest of the movie, was not. Its the ending that would have gone into the ORIGINAL movie, except the director wanted to make a statement. So, there's your explanation for the surprise ending... It was in the book, and Tim Burton was apparently in so much of a hurry to get to the surprise ending, he didn't really set it up all that much. Go fig.
Robby
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 06:27:26 PM
IP: ac91a187.ipt.aol.com

** Niamhgold enters quickly **

DPH: ** Gives him a big hug ** Aw, dude, I'm sorry...keep your chin up, though! You'll find a bigger and better job with more benefits, anyways :)

Adios!
Niamhgold
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 05:59:19 PM
IP: lac-flex223.ncia.net

bad news: I got laid off my job today. I get 8 weeks severance pay. More post later.
DPH
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 04:47:51 PM
IP: max1-14.cwy.cei.net

[OFFICIAL STATEMENT AHEAD! You Have Been Notified!]

Greetings all...

As Co-Chair of the Gathering 2003 Bid for Tampa Bay, Florida, I come before you to request some help from my fellow fans.

Currently, things are progressing well for the TBG'03 Bid, but we're snagged on a couple of points and there's some of you that might be avalible to help.

First, we need an artist to help us design the two mascots that we'll be using for the 2003 Gathering Bid. We plan to have the main character and a secondary one to signify our "younger fan & kids events". Therefore I'm announcing that we're accepting open submissions from our art community for anyone that is interested in producing artwork for either one or both of our mascots.

Here's what you'll get for your efforts:

- First off, immediate recognition for yourself as the artist that created the OFFICIAL Mascot for G'2003.
- The artist whose work is selected will receive a FREE convention membership package; including one full admission pass for themselves and one guest.
- The artist will also get a free T-shirt, which will feature their art and their name.

What we are looking for as far as submissions:

- Artwork must follow the descriptions of the two mascots, without major deviations or such.
- Artwork must be made so it can be printed in four-color process, allowing for the basic black and two other colors. Black and White submissions are acceptible, but only for illustrative purposes, as the final piece must be able to reproduce on a t-shirt.
- No vulgarity or such subject matter is acceptible, as this shirt will be given to small children. Please Keep things clean.
- Electronic Submissions are acceptible only in the following format: an email with the subject "Bid 2003 Mascot", with a hyberlink to a site where the artwork is stored online.
= No e-mail submissions containting attachments will be viewed.

Artists who are interested may obtain a copy of the masoct descriptives by sending a query email to the following address: scififangargoyle@yahoo.com.

And, Secondly, Our staff is currently rounded out, but we are in need of some local volunteers from the fandom. If you are currently living in Florida - preferably in the Tampa/St. Petersburg area - please contact me if you wish to take part in helping out and getting the 2003 bid ready for the 2002 Va.Beach staff to view.

In closing, we would like to thank everyone for their time and attantion, and hope to hear from those that can help out very soon.

Maintain and Check Six!

S.R. Sobotka, Jr.
Co-Chairperson
Tampa Bay Gathering 2003 Bid Staff

[OFFICIAL NOTICE OVER...THANK YOU!]

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr.
Tampa, FL, USA
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 03:38:05 PM
IP: 6532163hfc03.tampabay.rr.com

GREEN BARON> You mispelled 'research' ;)
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 02:40:36 PM
IP: dialin-1233-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

*sneaks in for a sec*
all people mentioned yesterday have new mail.. that would be you, pissy, sj, aaron and/or robby, lady mystic, firestorm and fleur

unfortunately, jannie does not get mail today, because i dont have time to respond... : ( hopefully tomorrow!!!

last night, the thermometer told me i had a temperature of 101.3 im not sure if i believe it cos it was a funky liquid-crystal dohickey that ive never used before but at any rate, i feel slightly better today. (yay!)

thankyou to all who replied to emails yesterday.. it was greatly appreciated.

and now i must go to work. nnnnneeeerrrrrrrrrgggggg : P
hopefully i will have time to post more tomorrow.. im just really busy and all that stuff. final on monday.. aaaaaaah!!!

love you all!!

*exits*
lain - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 11:07:56 AM
IP: sunset.lib.uwo.ca

Something a friend linked this and quoted a bit of it elsewhere on the Internet. The quote struck me as me like one of those 30-second "Reading is Fundamental" or "That's one to grow-on" type sound-bites. Read the entire thing and felt like it was at least not a total waste of my time.

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/8/11/122314/147

Also linked by my name.

- Insert witty Sig-line here
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:05:00 AM
IP: 208.204.155.241

Jan> Oops! Sorry, I forgot your e-mail address. Drop me a line sometime if you can, or send me your address! :) Thanks! :)
Ravyn - [webbedwarriors@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 07:56:17 AM
IP: svm-ts2-13.c2i2.com

Hey again, all! :)

Man, there's nothing like having to move out, and then realizing you have WAYYYY too much stuff. ;) Some quick replies:

Greg "X"> You know, I thought the same thing about "Samurai Jack!" I got to see the pilot on the first night they showed it, except I flipped there about halfway through, and it just seemed weird to me...but then the next night, I got to see it from the beginning, and I thought it was *very* cool. The concept *is* really cool, and Aku is pretty neat too. :) The animation style is also very different! :)

Josh> Glad you had a good time in Canada! ;) <<“Some people in here may not know what a ‘con’ is!”>> Oh, right! Sorry! (..."Mommy, what's a CON?") ;) As far as the classes I'm taking, it's probably most of what you took last semester... ;) I've got electricity & magnetism, vector calculus, a civil engineering class called Statics (what the heck does that mean?) ;), and two history classes to fulfill some gen ed requirements. ;)

Jan> **screams back** HEY!!! :) I'd love to keep in touch with you too, and I'll definitely send you an e-mail as soon as I can! <<Encourage that man of yours to post in here more often>> **blushes** Okay, I'll try to get that man of mine back in here! ;)

Spacebabie> Good to see you too! :)

LM> WOW!!! ;) You're one very hard-workin' gal. :)

Winterwolf> <<Count me as another person who thinks you and Coyote look very cute together!>> **hugs** Thanks!!! :)

GB> Wow! Well, good luck in Germany, my friend! :)
Ravyn
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 07:39:38 AM
IP: svm-ts2-13.c2i2.com

That is supposed to be Witch not with. Kathy Lee was a witch in my dream. I need more mind sharpening juice. aka Coffee.
Spacebabie
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 07:07:22 AM
IP: proxy.lga.netsetter.com

*Warpmind enters, busy on the cell phone. "...And after that, McDonald's had a restraining order put out, keeping me from entering any McDonald's while carryign a pint of prawns and a dog whistle..."*
*Ehum* Right... anyway... on to post... (You want to hear the whole story, huh? Too bad...) }:)

Niamhgold: Relax; when I said "inbred", I didn't mean it THAT literally. It's just that there's about two dozen old families here... and marriages have usually been restricted to any one of the others. That way, almost everyone is related to everyone, in one way or another. (The norm is on great-grandparent level, mind you.) And the public spanking scheme kinda failed completely. But, I have it filed for future reference when I'm on the Council of the New World Government, after the Revolution. (Dunno which revolution, though. Depends on which one I'm aiding strikes first...)

Christine: "Scary" is... well, quite descriptive, actually. Everything's fine now, though. And I'm now stalking the mailman. You know why. ;)

Winterwolf: WHAAAA? You've only gotten to do the Warrior Handshake with Aaron? *Thinks back* I am pretty sure we shook hands in LA, compadre... Well, I may be wrong...

Josh: I thought "I can't get no satisfaction" was by The Stones, not by Britney Spears... *Thinks back* For that matter, that song was also listed as #1 most likely Windows XP soundtrack... }:)

Xanathar: Sorry about ruining D2X for you... But honestly, don't try to tell me you never thought in those directions when you saw the cutscene between Lut Gholein and Kurast? ;)

Well, 's all for now. Cheerio, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 07:02:41 AM
IP: garibaldi.ti.telenor.net

Hi all!!

Another day over and done with,the year seems to be flying by.I wish I could say anything interesting happened to me but it didn't so I guess I'll just get on with some replies....

Spacebabie:<>I think I know what you mean,sometimes the topics in the room go way over my head(I've never claimed to be a smart person),plus being a quiet natured person I don't say very much.(it took me months to work up the courage to start posting here three years ago.)

Warpmind:<<Ayup, the Joyride may be dead and buried, but the Joyriders will live forever. ;)>>Amen to that! :) <<rumor update>>I'm glad they caught that guy and your name has been cleared,shame about the revenge plans though,it would have been sweet! :)<<Those of you playing Druid on the Diablo 2 Expansion, and (like me) probably watch WAY too much "bad" Japanese animation... I warn you: do NOT go into summoning those vine thingies... BAD imagery. BAD imagery.>>Great,now I won't be able to play Diablo 2 without being reminded of Hentai for a while. (J/K)(I'm not really a Hentai fan myself,it's not my thing.)

<<And yes, all accidents are dumb, but some more so then others. Trust me, I know, I actually have walked smack into a door.>>I've had a cuboard door fall off it's hinges when I tried to open it and landed on top of me(I was a little kid at the time,It's funny when I think back on it! :) )

Lady Mystic:Those profile ideas sound great! :)

Winterwolf:<>Thats a good outlook,I love my games but they can really get in the way of a social life(unless you have friends like mine who live and breath computers. :))

Josh:<<Us!? Happy and hopeful? I must be new here.>>Oh yes, before all these betrayals and lies happened,this place was a nice little sancturary from the real world,populated by the happily insane.(yes there were arquements back then too but nothing to make people leave over.)<<You mean besides cheat on him repeatedly in front of him?>>Love blinds,sometimes people refuse to see the obvious(take it from a guy whose been down a similar path already.)<<Proving beyond a doubt that all members of the band NSYNC are gay.>>*ROTFLMAO* you needed proof!?! ;)

I guess I better head off to bed,take care all!

Xanathar - [ameader@bigpond.net.au]
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 06:12:18 AM
IP: cpe-203-45-26-71.vic.bigpond.net.au

We had another exiting thunderstorm last nigh, the kind that would cause the people in the D.C. area to wet their pants in fear. Sure made half the dogs panic.

I had some wierd dreams last night.
The first one had Sevarius comunicating with Harry Mcdougall in virtual Reality. Aisha getting into a tiff with the mutates, and me ending up in bed with Gene Starwind

The second dream had a dragonfly kill a hornet, Kathy lee being a with, Todd Flanders saying "screw you" and me in a diner in the mall that served up dishes named after Beatles songs. I had the Elenor Rigby((A chicken sandwich topped with tomato and bacon) With some Tiwst and Shout Cheese Sticks.

Last night proved that the contestans of Fear Factor are morons. I watched them on Weakest Link last night, Sweet Jesus Christ all mighty How stupid can these guys be. Here is one question they got wrong...:Named after thoguth what grotesqu statues is used as a waterspout?
Pipes?: Wrong! Baka!

Aeris>>>First of all don't leave, Secondly your not an idiot, three uh chill out a bit, Josh is cynical and I guess he kind of got frustrated at you asking the same question over and over thought many wre giving you answers.

Josh>>>well yeah I'm kind of ticked about the computer, the one I have now is slow as crap and the printer is crap. Glad you made it back to L.A saftley. Your parents liked American Pie? Coolies.

Shadowrider>>>Have un on your camping Trip

Winterwolf>>>Hey I remember the gathering in Orlando too and since I met a lot of you. heh heh, looking forward to seeing you all again in 2002.

and thanks to my wonderful pill
I can hope and I can dream cause I am full of self esteem....Nah

I am cool and that is it and everyone else is full of...full of.. full of...

Cyber cookie to anyone who can spot the reference.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 06:08:19 AM
IP: proxy.ord.netsetter.com

Greetings from Krautland :)

This is the Green Baron now at his first duty station. So far, I like it, though part of me would love to be in Georgia right now.

I see a bunch of comments and some nasty subjects, which I shoudl respond to a few; well those pertaining to me.

First, I am stationed at Pioneer Kasserne(Camp) in Hanau, GE, which is not far from Frankfurt. MY cousin is stationed 25 minutes away, so I saw his wife and my godson on Sunday, so having family nearby makes being an Ocean away from home much more bearable. A good friend of mine is stationed in Bavaria and he may visit me at the end of August for some good geeky fun. A few of you may remember Lago when he posted a few weeks back. My mailing address is:

SPC Thomas Forsyth
CMR 470, Box 4884
APO AE 09165

Because it is a US Military post, mailing me anything costs the same as to a US address.

If any of our Euro fans want to visit me, let me know.

Aris> How far is Athens form Frankfurt? Maybe I can drop by your hunting grounds. Please don't leave the CR.

Flame war against Paul Nathans> Yeah we were cruel to him, but he was a sheisskopf :)

Kit> I beleive you exist and I wish you could make a Gathering to cast out all doubt. Todd exists, though him being a normal human removes his air of mystery and all the fun rumors, though he could still be Crzy's son from the future :)

Babylon 5 comparison> Well, Londo and G'Kar are actually very similar in approach and values, which makes them such major enemies, unlike loveable flunkies like Lenier and Vir. SJ and Crzy have similar personalities including strong emotions and passions (which I could never comprehend no matter how many dormant feelinsg Heather has reawakened) and actually similar views on such matters as religion and politics (conservative Protestant), yet they have differences that make them enemies. Oh well, maybe we can get them drunk at G02, put them in the same bed with minimal clothing and take tons of pictures while they are passed out :) Who's up for such evil :)

Gathering> I hope I can make it. There is a possibility I'll be in Kosovo during G02. Talk about bad brakes.

Xanatos> Well, I agree with you about how Heather and I deserve each other. Too bad you didn't mean it to be a compliment. Oh well, you are prone to make decisions on emotions as opposed to reasearch, so I'll let it pass.

Pistoff> Lies, betrayal, and manipulation. Why you make it sound like some Machiavellian soap opera. BTW, how are you? I forgot your message board address. I need to research the archives to find out what has been going on.

Mara and Aaron> Well, I knew about teh amrriage a while back but I congratulate you two and I think it will be legal for tax purposes.

Christine> Well, I want to knwo about Lord Verdant's statistics if he becomes an NPC. BTW, you need to do a book signing tour in Hanau :)

That is all for now.
Auf Weidershein!!
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Pioneer Kasserne, Hanau, Germany
Tuesday, August 14, 2001 05:13:13 AM
IP: bfce.hanau.army.mil

::listening to The Aquabats "The Fury of the Aquabats"::

Yes, I landed, I'm alive and well! (Nice try, everyone, but they found the bomb)

Anyway, I got to the airport only 1.5 hours before take off and still had to be rushed through immigration by the crack team at Air Canada. The flight home just felt really LONG. It was longer because of headwind or something, but it felt MUCH longer than my flight to Canada, when it was really on 20 minutes longer.

I took a shuttle home from the airport, only cost me $35 ::choke::. Oh well, it was better than taking a slow-ass smelly bus across the city to ANOTHER airport where I'd have to WAIT for my dad to pick me up...I hate waiting. Patience is not one of my many virtues (what the other ones are is anyone's guess).

I got home, hugged mom, told her about the trip, blah blah blah, and opened my mail. Wouldn't you know it, one of the magazines I bought in Canadia was waiting for me. I hate it when that happens. I got paychecks though! Two of them! Not much money, since I only worked 4 days out of the last 15, but that's alright. I'll live. Money is money.

I logged into "the office" shortly after I got back. I was supposed to go see American Pie 2 with my parents tonight (yes, they loved the first one), but job committments come first. I'll be back at my regular (paying) job tomorrow morning so I can charge through the last part of my project, collect any bonuses my dad sees fit to give me, and take the rest of my summer off. Really off.

Had a FAT (yes, fat, not phat) email from Niamhgold waiting in my mailbox when I got back, so at least I had something to read while I worked.

::listening to The Aquabats "The Return of the Aquabats::

Dinner tonight was BBQ chicken pizza. Watched Boston Public and Ally McBeal.

I've found new and interesting ways to screw up my brother's new iMac. I feel really bad. I bought him this new machine for his bar mitzvah/birthday, hoping that it would be cool for both of us to play with. Yet after trying to install OS X (beyond a doubt the greatest operating system ever, IMHO) twice, I've screwed the machine up to a point where I had to wipe the hard drive and restore the initial software conditions. I'm gonna take it in tomorrow and see what's up. Might be faulty RAM, might be something worse (in which case it'd be covered by warranty).

The irony in all of this is that I see my roommate the same way. He was always the one with no computer problems while Britney was acting like a total bitch (you think I named her Britney based on LOOKS?!). Now the tables have turned and I'm the one with no computer troubles while my brother's new machine degrades to paperweight status. I feel terrible. Thank god he's at camp right now or I'd never hear the end of it.

Some days, it just doesn't pay to be a tech support genius.

Kit: <>: Who could tell? <>: Actually, YES. You made a liberal, anti-republican decision without knowing all the facts, or even most of them. Like WHY Bush rejected the treaty. That qualifies you as a hippy. Sorry. <<Thanks for the jokes, I didn't laugh at all of them, but I did get them>>: That's okay, I'm not very funny. <<Doug and I will think about it>>: Gee, I'm shocked.

FireStorm: Check this out. It belongs on your site: http://latimes.com/technology/la-000064605aug09.story <>: I have no respect for you ;-) <<Digimon has a REAL plot that takes place over an entire season, as opposed to Pokemon trying to stretch a plot over an entire episode>>: I'm not sold. Never will be. <<posting a pic of yourself, preferably with Doug>>: You would consider this evidence!? That's as circumstantial as the mountains of evidence Robby and Aaron introduced.

Lynati: <<Isn't she cool?>>: Yes, she is. <<It's kinda like a hug to the tenth power>>: Sounds painful! <<He's a fan of the Harry Potter series>>: Isn't everyone? <<That just strikes me as horribly ironic>>: I don't think so. Any more than the fact that Ricky Martin's favorite band is Korn is ironic. <<up at 2:30 am AGAIN? Why me>>: That'll teach you to drink caffeine before bed!

Xanathar: <<just like it was 2 years ago only things were a lot happier and more hopeful back then>>: Us!? Happy and hopeful? I must be new here. <<Love is like that>>: I'll take your word on it. I've never been in love. <<What did she do to him if you don't mind me asking>>: You mean besides cheat on him repeatedly in front of him? <<I've always been affraid to open up to people because they might hurt me>>: I'm afraid they'll blackmail me ;-)

Jan: <<Ya’ll crack me up>>: Thanks! <<So, at least this saga has a happy ending for all parties involved>>: I'll call CNN! <<We? “We” didn’t have a say in the decision on who would be the admins>>: LOL true. <<Was it you that insulted Bush on his spelling abilities?>>: Yes. My bad. I meant speaking abilities. <>: Yes, that was me. Who else could have such a brilliant description of the Bay Area? ;-) <>: Whoa! You must be...old ;-) <>: I saw dead walking. <<by that time, it’s too late to eat>>: It is NEVER too late for food! <<My son is one who feels he has to eat something as soon as his feet touch the floor in the mornings>>: If I ate when I woke up, I'd be ill.

Queen of Pain: <<Cold and very wet>>: Too much information for me. <<Like you I have to wait until September until I get a new computer too>>: Its painful to me. You? <<Ok you love chocolate>>: Yes I do. A close second to nookie. <<She walked up to Joey Fatone of Nsync and whispered "I'm not wearing any underwear." He said "Why are you telling me this?" and walked off>>: Proving beyond a doubt that all members of the band NSYNC are gay. <<You idiots you captured their stunt doubles>>: Heh, heh.

Kathy: <>: My brother RAN into a door...at that special age where the doorknob is at eye level...8 stitches. <<Josh is correct>>: That was me and DAMN RIGHT I am! If I know anything, its how to deal with attention hogs.

Taleweaver: Long time no see, buddy. How's the married life treating you? <<I'm trying to get back in the habit of posting>>: Good habit to be in. <>: Amen!

Baldy: <<there goes the public spanking>>: Curses! Foiled again! <<no further satisfaction>>: Tell it to Britney Spears. <<there'll be a little financial acknowledgement added in court>>: There frickin' better be! Jesus I'd take them to court on slander by itself and win big. <<Titania's Secret, huh? Dad'll love this one>>: I think EVERYONE's dad will love this one. <<ST:TNG reference. Very obscure.>>: I got it, but unfortunately it didn't make you any funnier.

Kyryn: <<She's Canadian and has a black belt in Tae Kwan Do>>: She needs that flag.

David G: <<Then again, why be fair?>>: It's far less entertaining when its fair. <<Are you ready to RUMBLE!!!!!!!>>: LOL.

Aris: <<The feeling just became mutual>>: Oh, come off it. Despite what I said, anyone in here will tell you its gonna take a lot more than ONE illogical sentence for me to think you're an idiot. I really don't think you're stupid, I just like to explore sarcasm when debating. Really. Sorry for "driving you out" though I really won't accept any responsibility for it.

Lady Mystic: <<I've already begun work on this project>>: Wouldn't it have been wiser to wait until we added our comments/ideas on your plan before starting it, for no other reason than avoiding unnecessary work? <<it makes much more sense for the admin of CR member info to be the same admin for CR information>>: I agree. <<this job would be a strong motivation for me to stay up to date with CR events>>: In that case I'm all for it! ;-) <<I've been thinking of making poster stat pages that include breif bios, names and aliases, name of significant other
(particularly useful if they are a part of the Gargoyles fandom), locations, occupations, contact information, website URLs, birthdays, the date of your first post in the forum, and lot more>>: Geez. All we asked for was a calendar! You realize if you do all this and don't implement a calendar feature, there's gonna be a riot ;-) <<This may change at a later date as this project gets rolling>>: There aren't that many frequent posters at a time. Each document isn't gonna be much bigger than 10k. <<Only the member in question and I would know them>>: I'm sorry, but if I told you my password, I'd have to kill you. On the other hand, I guess then FS would be rushing producting on the DLD, huh? ;-) <<all data would be checked as it is going through the submission process>>: Good plan. You may need an assistant on this though if it gets out of hand. Depends on how many people want their stuff added. Also, whoever's in charge of it should delete old stuff as posters leave. Like if someone doesn't show up for 6 months, do we really care when they're birthday is? <<What categories would you like to see on the profile pages>>: Name, alias/callsign/handle, age, b-day, location (and school if possible/applicable), Gatherings attended, artistic forums (writing, drawing, painting, costuming, etc), other hobbies, email, AIM/ICQ/MSN/Yahoo/whatever contacts, musical tastes, favorite canon character, PERSONAL QUOTE. Since none of this is mandatory, no one has to fill in anything they want private. <<function and layout/design>>: I'm thinking similar to the way the info on the CR admins/etc is setup now. Ya know, a little icon (or maybe their frequent posting picture!) with the info on the side. That's the display. The editing page would be formatted like the comment add page, I think. As for the calendar...a graphic of the month showing the current month with left/right arrows to previous/next months with a little line that says "LM's b-day!" on the given day. Might be complicated to store graphics for that though...

Lain: <<becha yer all scaaaaared-like, huh>>: I'm not! <<hope you get back to LA safe>>: Once again, I have.

Shadowrider: <<have no idea of what they are saying>>: You are very right, my friend. No clue at all. <>: Sweet! <<this was a long reply, isn't it>>: No, not really. My posts to Niamhgold or SJ, THOSE are long replies.

The Wizard: Speak of the devil! Yes, I did get your email, but I was busy working tonight so I haven't had time to respond to it yet. But I will as soon as I can. <<much to our neighbors's dismay>>: You're lucky I'm not your neighbor. I have a habit of blowing up things I don't like. Loud things, in particular. <<Big Daddy>>: LOL. I can't believe you actually posted that. <>: I'm still alive...technically. <<that work doesn't slam you too hard on your day back>>: Its already been announced that I have to fix one of the macs in the art department. Riddle me this: why does my dad insist on telling me the minute I get back that a) there's a problem with the macs at work and b) he has NO idea what the exact problem is, just that somethings wrong. Is he TRYING to get me worked up thinking about it!? Do I for some reason look like my thoughts need focusing? <<Now _those_ are true relatives>>: They don't "have" to let me in when I go there ;-) I just go. <<Until Paul runs out into the living room wearing only his underwear and waving a baseball bat>>: If you'd ever seen Paul, you'd realize what a funny picture that is. <<When's your winter break?>>: Middle of December to middle of January. <<Did you happen to get a picture of that? How big are we talking?>>: I dunno, ask her. I didn't see it. I just got the finger ;-) <<George Carlin, George Carlin, GEORGE CARLIN!>>: Amen, babe. <<How long's she in for>>: She's not! She got out of it! They filled the requirements and didn't call her! <<don't worry about those shuttles...they, uh, add character>>: I've been on many. I take one from Oakland to my apartment whenever I fly to Berkeley. <>: No comment. <<oh, THOSE Gargoyles. Uh, nevermind>>: LOL. <<My computer always stands up and demands for an upgrade>>: Mine did. I smacked the bitch. ;-) <<Unless it cuts the power off. In which case, that's still a turn on>>: Exactly! What could be more hot than making out (or worse) in a lightning storm with no lights? <<when do us girls get something for _our_ tastes>>: When Christine becomes a raging lesbian or Tim decides to put out the magazine himself. Aka NEVER. <>: I was certain we agreed those sucked. ;-) <<I'll ask for my own laser at Christmas>>: Me too. <<Man's best friend. What kind of tricks can it do?>>: It can get my mail and news...oh, the dog can do that too. Well it can...uh...I don't have to walk it! <>: Avoid doing so as long as possible. I'd be very happy if *I* never had to, after all I can order the products online. <<Therefore, misery can't love company>>: You get smarter every minute. <<since I don't often agree with anyone>>: You usually agree with me. <<all the girls you've been involved with have been idiots>>: I couldn't agree with you more. Then again, they'd have to be to date me. <<should be a HUGE compliment and what the heck else are they looking for?>>: I don't know, but I didn't have it and I couldn't get it at a hardware or computer store so I wasn't looking for it either. <<nevermind. I am SO not rolling the gutterball _there>>: Fortunately, we have e-mail. <>: Curses! Foiled again! <<If you count talking in my sleep>>: I do that too! Better that than snoring like my dad...god I can hear him downstairs! <<I'm not certain if I'm happy with the new one, either; tell me what you think!>>: I think I'd use it if it didn't appear so pixelated at that low res. <<did I just unknowingly sell you my soul>>: Not to mention a few other commodities. <<I'm not saying that science/math should be deemed art for the purposes of selling it AS art>>: Right, because that would cut into your profits ;-) <<it takes a little of both sides of the brain to do *anything*>>: If you say so. Personally I think people drive with the NULL side of their brain. <<Maxim do a "shot" of CG character Aki Ross from FF?>>: Yup. Missed that issue. <>: You look good in a potato sack? Score! <>: NEIN! <<Then hang them by their pinky toes>>: Ah, a woman after my own heart. <>: Naw, they just don't have taste in women...cuz they're not straight. I'll go tell Britney and...uh, console her.

Winterwolf: <<Between Quake II and Civilization my few hours of time a night vanished without a trace>>: Don't suppose you two would be willing to start up a TGS Starcraft clan with me? That'll REALLY burn hours. <>: I can get a 70% approval rating on Cheiftan, that's about it. <<I've been talking to Dreamie every night>>: I'm shocked. I'd never have put that together since I only see the two of you online EVERY NIGHT for HOURS. <<we are going to be looking for other games to play together>>: Starcraft! UT! <<Who wants to bet Josh, along with some others, have dirty thoughts about that?>>: Me? Dirty thoughts about Dreamie? Never. <>: I don't think she knows her way around. Oh. So much for "never". <<I'm just not a Josh day by day vacation poster but I'll work on at least one post>>: I know, you all want to be like me. I think I just enjoy posting way too much. <<I'll need the AOL gods to smile on me though, and they can be downright stingy>>: AOL is a definite reason to be an atheist. <<along with the self-proclaimed fifth wheel>>: WOO HOO! I got a mention! <<all being amazed how much Josh's little brother was just like Josh>>: He's not, damnit! <<Josh did this push your brother into the "I think I don't want one now." state of mind>>: Oh yeah. <<Sounds like someone is forgetting to leave his sanity at the door>>: You're assuming I had it to begin with. This is a little like walking into a restaurant naked and having the maitre'd ask for your coat. <>: Next, time, deny being ticklish. It pays off. Trust me.

To err is human, but to really f*ck things up you need a computer.
-PureEvil (TeenChatCenter)

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Monday, August 13, 2001 11:37:30 PM
IP: ppp-206-170-217-233.nhwd02.pacbell.net

Hi! I've finally broken away from getting too wrapped up in video games in my miniscule free time. Between Quake II and Civilization my few hours of time a night vanished without a trace. For some reason these long drawn out strategy games feed off of meticulous nature. I must make the perfect civilization. :P At least I didn't loose sleep over it at least not more than an hour. Which is good if you take into account my early school years. I think I'll go back to just the occasional game. I like to keep in touch with friends but nightly gaming helped me do a really lousy job of it.

In other news I've been talking to Dreamie every night. That's something I don't have any intention of changing. ;P Not only that but we were playing Quake II together. That was fun and we are going to be looking for other games to play together. Who wants to bet Josh, along with some others, have dirty thoughts about that? ;D

Now the big news is that I'll be heading to Seattle next week. My second vacation of the summer! Woo Hoo! :) It'll be my first time there but I know my loving tour guide Dreamie will show me around. I'll see if I can post while I'm away. Now I'm just not a Josh day by day vacation poster but I'll work on at least one post. I'll need the AOL gods to smile on me though, and they can be downright stingy. ~_^

I want to throw in my own feelings and opinion of Aaron and Mara. At my first Gathering, which was back in Florida, I spent a lot of time with both Aaron and Mara. I consider both of them friends and enjoy their company. We go out in search of food, toss interesting fic and MST ideas around, play air hockey, and I can never forget the only guy that I've ever gotten to do the gargoyle warrior handshake with! During G2K we spent plenty of hours late at night after all the activities were over talking and just having a good time. Then at this year's con, where I was inseparable from my love, the four of us spent some more time along with the self-proclaimed fifth wheel. Had fun watching Evolution, eating Dim Sum, cruising in a convertible with the top down, stopping at Josh's house, all being amazed how much Josh's little brother was just like Josh. Wincing after hearing the story of how Aaron got his tattoo. Josh did this push your brother into the "I think I don't want one now." state of mind? Back at G2K we were all just friends. I'm happy that Aaron and Mara got much closer and I think it's unfair to both of them to say they did anything wrong. Sure I'd prefer that Coyote wasn't hurt, but I wouldn't want anyone to hold a grudge if I was the one hurt. If you harbor bitterness then happiness will dock elsewhere. I'm happy and proud to call them friends.

Aaron and Mara> Congratulations! That sounds like a special moment to remember forever. ^_^

Aaron> By the way, have you kicked Drizzit's butt yet? ;) Back to the oak furniture bit. I had to move a double dresser that was all one piece. That baby dresser felt about as heavy as a big old redwood tree!

Shadowrider> Have a fun camping. I can't remember when I did that last. I'm sure it will be time well spent if Alessia will be joining you. ~_^

Lady Mystic> I've gone ahead and put in my input on the online form. Hope you, and everyone else on the Gathering to be staff, find it useful. :)

Josh> <<cuddles as close as she can and swoons happily:::>>: That's it! You are not allowed to post that crap anymore, otherwise the CR admins will have to take us all to the CR hospital!> Sounds like someone is forgetting to leave his sanity at the door. ;P <you two get married and stay together forever> You say the sweetest things. LOL ~_^

Rayvn> Count me as another person who thinks you and Coyote look very cute together! ^_^ <Coyote withdrawal> Having been in a similar position, I understand. May you two get back together pronto!

Warpmind> Glad that mess is behind you now.

Happy Belated Birthdays to everyone I missed born in August!

Dreamie> **kiss** **snuggle** **nuzzle** You are the love of my life! Just a few more days and we get to spend a week together on vacation! ^_^ < You're too cute my love :::nuzzles and laughs::: I love you!> And I love you! **smiles happily** <:::pounce tickles:::> Am I doomed to be forever tickled into submission? O.o

Big CR welcome to Saki!

Well that's all for now. I have some quality snuggling to get to!

**Winterwolf runs off to snuggle up with his love**

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Bronx, NY
Monday, August 13, 2001 09:46:08 PM
IP: pool-141-155-109-84.ny5030.east.verizon.net

Warpmind > glad the situation was resolved ... what a scary mess!

Planet of the Apes > saw this one yesterday. Now I know what all the fuss was over the ending not making sense. But it was a treat to see David Warner, and I was highly impressed with the apes all around -- makeup, movements, mannerisms. It also gave me several personal chuckles because the apes and my Emerinian elves have some things in common when it comes to their attitude toward humans ; )

John Kovalic made my day today. Not only did my copy of Dork Tower #14 arrive -- ooh, but he's an evil man! -- but he also gave me permission to use "Castle Spank" as an adventure seed for my current GURPS sure-fire-rejection project ; )

Sybil > I remember that one. Read it in my early teens. Sally Field in the movie, wasn't it? And that's the most I'll say on matters relating to the ongoing unpleasantness, because I'm boggled and dismayed by the whole affair.

Green Baron > if you're around to see this, just thought I'd let you know that the game I'll be running at Dragonflight in a couple of weeks is set in Emerald Deep ... a certain young lord might even make an appearance! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, August 13, 2001 09:09:02 PM
IP: 10-068.075.popsite.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hey! Well, this weekend was somewhat uneventful...my dad did a completely random thing and bought a Harley Davidson. This thing is just so awesome...cobalt blue, shiny, loud (much to our neighbors's dismay ;)). But very cool. Yes, there are times when he proves that he is my dad :) This is one of them.

Lady Mystic: You are GOD! That sounds excellent, chica! :) Wow.

Big Daddy: Aw, what the heck, I'll finally post it this time ;) First of all, let me say that I hope you had a very, very safe flight...and that work doesn't slam you too hard on your day back. <They said they don’t even need advance notice> Now _those_ are true relatives. <And since I know the alarm codes, I don’t even have to knock to annoonce my presence by knocking. I just walk right in> Until Paul runs out into the living room wearing only his underwear and waving a baseball bat... <So who wants to come to Toronto with me over winter break (yes, it WILL be cold)?> When's your winter break? ;) <Her big statue that she made oot of computer parts> Whoa. Did you happen to get a picture of that? How big are we talking? And I agree. As long as they respond to my posts/questions/whatever, why should I care who they are? Any company is good company :) <Its gonna f*cking rock! And of course its got Chris Rock, George Carlin, Kevin Smith, and Apple Computers 8-)> George Carlin, George Carlin, GEORGE CARLIN!!!!! <Jury duty> Wonk. How long's she in for? What's the case? And don't worry about those shuttles...they, uh, add character. They're probably about as fun as the shuttles I take from BWI. <So give Bush a break, he was completely justified in doing what he did> Normally, I dislike Bush, and I don't like him even with the treaty stint...however, I will give him credit for the stem cell decision. Though some are angered, it was probably the best move on his part. I see a beheading brewing! ;) <Jeez, do you WATCH gargoyles!?> I do, all the time. I sit under the church and sometimes...oh, THOSE Gargoyles. Uh, nevermind. <Um, computers don’t force Win2k upgrades> Hey, speak for yourself! My computer always stands up and demands for an upgrade! ;P <That’s awesome. Lightning storms are such a turn on 8-)> Unless it cuts the power off. In which case, that's still a turn on. <<< this one will include the Titania's Secret Catalog>>: Can’t wait!> But when do us girls get something for _our_ tastes? <See anything good in the $300-range USB laser section?> Blah, some HPs but they really bit the big one. I settled for an Epson...simply because my school has kicker laser printers, they're free, and only a walk/shuttle ride away ;) Plus, they're on PCs, so they're compatible. I'll ask for my own laser at Christmas :) <but of course that’s just because my laptop never leaves my side> Man's best friend. What kind of tricks can it do? ;) <Too late> I must be immune. Then again, I've never called Apple. <one of the coolest movies ever> Um...I don't think I've seen that movie... <Those people are wrong. Misery is not happiness. Its misery. Any idiot should be able to tell them apart> Damn idiot self! ;) Therefore, misery can't love company. Because love isn't a quality of misery. Unless it's that sadistic sort of love...ah, there's an exception to every rule ;) <No. I just don’t agree with them> I can live with that, then, since I don't often agree with anyone ;) <Usually a hollow construction ;-)> :: chuckles :: <Unless you’re into that> Goes along with the fingernail thing. ;) <but then again I’m never wrong so she should just take my word on it.> Apparently, then, all the girls you've been involved with have been idiots, because you've already mentioned that you wouldn't date them if you didn't think they were good looking, so that should be a HUGE compliment and what the heck else are they looking for? <No, I think that can be interesting even without sex> And, unfortunately, TNT's Chris O'Donnel little horror about the Triangle was unsurprisingly not horrible at all. Though fun to laugh at ;) Guess I'll have to stick to the Discovery coverage in the meanwhile. <Still said “Josh”.> I believe that has been rectified ;) <Or were you talking about another inside joke?> Only if...uh, nevermind. I am SO not rolling the gutterball _there_. I knew you were going to say that ;) <A screamer, huh? Cool!> If you count talking in my sleep... <Send me a picture. I wanna see.> I am, in just a few moments. I changed the original concept, though, to something a little more ** gasp ** abstract, because all the meshed pictures made the background _way_ too confusing :P I'm not certain if I'm happy with the new one, either; tell me what you think! <I’ll need someone to run Portugal ;-)> Wait...did I just unknowingly sell you my soul?!? <No one in my family is artistically inclined> It has to start with someone. <Two totally different sides of the brain, dear> Are they, now? Perhaps thought processes of either belong to the different sides of the brain, but...have you ever seen what beauty a marine biologist can create? Or the sleekness of anything an engineer can build (obviously, you _must_)? I think science is an art. I think mathematics is an art; everyone has a different way of coming to a conclusion, their own "flair," if you will. I told you about the student that made an entire mural with theorems/graphs/physics equations. He was an "artist" but just as intelligent as any left-brainer. Now, I'm not saying that science/math should be deemed art for the purposes of selling it AS art. But I do think it takes a little of both sides of the brain to do *anything*. I could, however, just be in the wrong field ;) <Maxim has better pictures, and they’re covered.> Didn't Maxim do a "shot" of CG character Aki Ross from FF? <That woman would look good wearing a potato sack> Hey, I resemble that remark!
;-P <I’M ON TOP!> For now. Ba-dum-dum...

Shadowrider: Yay, camping! Have a lot of fun! I'm putting your letter in the mail tomorrow. Did you happen to see me online Saturday and Sunday? I looked you up but you weren't :(

Warpmind: Hurrah :) I knew there was justice in this world (no, I am not trying to start another flame war!). <while the initial test didn't identify the perp, it narrowed it down to one of the (rather inbred) older families in the area> :: Shudders :: I see <and one HUGE public apology from the locals, and no further satisfaction> I think you should publicly spank all the locals. Then hang them by their pinky toes.

Taleweaver: <Got some laughs but Chris Tucker annoys me as only Barney can> Does that mean I should just wait for video? ;)

Spacebabie: <She walked up to Joey Fatone of Nsync and whispered "I'm not wearing any underwear." He said "Why are you telling me this?" and walked off.> Whoa! But...I thought the guys of Nsync weren't supposed to have taste at all! ;) Feel well!

Jaden: Awesome, man. Why kind of music do they play (can you remember? ;))? I always used to love going to my friend Austin's concerts. He had a band named "Swell 36." <Love is like that,I just wanted to be there for her all the time,I didn't want to make her sad by not being there when she needed me,It seemed like the right thing to do at the time> Ah, I'm sorry. But maybe true love is one in which you feel free to do what you like, when you like, without a guilt trip (although it's still good to be there every once and a while).

Adios and Buenas Noches!
Niamhgold
Monday, August 13, 2001 06:53:46 PM
IP: lac-flex134.ncia.net

Another post for me...last for some days. Tomorrow morning I leave for a couple days of camping. Not that much, but it's all the vacation I can get this year. Oh, well...I'll try to do better next summer.

Josh:><<Its good that you stuck up for your friend. Most people wouldn’t do that against a group of bad guys>> Having been a victim of "teasing" myself as I was a child (for the usual reasons: I was shy, I liked reading, I was always kind and educated in speaking and so on...), I remember perfectly how it feels to be victims of it and having no support by anyone. So, now, when I see anyone having the same trouble, I cannot help but intervening (about it, I also think that those educators/teachers that say being teased can help strenghtening personality and so it is better to let it go, have no idea of what they are saying). And, furthermore, this particular episode was not that great show of courage. First, the harassing guys were all just good-for nothing jerks, high and mighty in words but cowards in facts (as often happens). Second, I was the one who taught them hand-to-hand fighting when they arrived at the Corp - they know that I *can* fight, and I knew they know it. Third, they eventually knew I am quite popular in the barracks (almost everyone asked for my help for something at least once, and I like to be of help when I can) so they knew that making troubles to me was going to mean earning a lot of enemies in the barracks - and, once again, I knew that. So, when I faced them, I had no doubt they were going to do what I told them to do - for fear, if anything else. For these reasons, I don't think I did anything particularily meritorious.
Hm, this was a long reply, isn't it? Sorry, Josh, was not my intention.

Well, there's nothing more, I think. (I apologize if I missed anyone). See in two/three days, everyone!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Monday, August 13, 2001 03:54:51 PM
IP: h213-18-248.mi2.albacom.net

DAVID G. - Well, actually, the correct spellings for the names of Hercules's sidekick and the "King of Thieves" are/were Iolaus and Autolycus.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, August 13, 2001 03:46:52 PM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup212.dialsprint.net

*peeks in*
i DID have a post.. but then i had to take my stressed friend to the councilling centre before he snapped and i lost it. sorry.

i dont have much to say. however, the following people should check their emails:
fleur
sevarius jr
jannie (thank you : D)
pistoff
lady-mystic
firestorm
aaron
robby
doug and kit

becha yer all scaaaaared-like, huh? yeah, right : P

anyway, if you dont get much email, youve got some now! (and if you want to write back, thats EVEN BETTER!!! : D)

um.. thats about all for now. i have to go home and sleep as i had nightmares most of the night about my mother shouting at me.. : (

hope you get back to LA safe, josh

love,

lain - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Monday, August 13, 2001 12:36:33 PM
IP: sunset.lib.uwo.ca

*** TGS CR MEMBER INFO RELATED ***

I'm not sure what all of you would think about what I have to say here, but here are my ideas. (I've already begun work on this project.)

IMO, it makes much more sense for the admin of CR member info to be the same admin for CR information. Both are very closely related. It's a lot of added work, but I wouldn't feel right letting someone else take up this responsibility. I took this job a long time ago. It's a part of who I am now. If I feel I can't hack it I'll hand over the reins of administering member info to someone else. Okay with you?

To clarify something, the admin of this data does not have to be someone who posts frequently. It may be best that way, but it is perfectly possible for someone to keep track of legitimate members and certain data without needing to post regularly. (Besides, this job would be a strong motivation for me to stay up to date with CR events.) And if I feel I can't keep track then I'll hand over the member info administration to someone more qualified.

I've been thinking of making poster stat pages that include breif bios, names and aliases, name of significant other (particularly useful if they are a part of the Gargoyles fandom), locations, occupations, contact information, website URLs, birthdays, the date of your first post in the forum, and lot more. (Data may also be cross-referenced. As in, people may look up a listing of special events that might be set up in calendar format, a listing of members by location and the like.) Members may answer all fields or only the required fields, and may specify what data stays private and what gets published. (Think Ezboard Profiles or JEB's Registry entries.) For webspace concerns, data per person would have to be kept to a low, as yet undetermined, file size, at least for now. (This may change at a later date as this project gets rolling.) Passwords would also be used for submissions and data changes. (Passwords would add security and will be shared with no one. Only the member in question and I would know them.) I am working on getting the data sent via form(s) using CGI to minimize the number of people having to send submissions via email.

After I receive a person's profile data I will notify said person via email of the receipt. I will then analyze the data for inappropriate content and send the person a rough draft of their profile. Once they approve of the content I will create their profile page. Once completed, I will notify said person via email of the published page (including the URL). It sounds like a lot but it's the best method I've come up with that has the most security. I'd rather content be finalized and approved *before* data is added to the pages (as opposed to instantaneous results) to guard against frequent tweaking of content and to ease the workload on the admin so that he/she/they don't have to constantly check public content for inappropriate data and misuse. Instead, all data would be checked as it is going through the submission process.

I'll try to keep you guys informed of my progress. (I may even have a few preliminary pages set up soon. Of course these pages would need to be tweaked before the a finalized draft.) Please feel free to post feedback. :)

I would also greatly appreciate answers/feedback to the following:

What categories would you like to see on the profile pages? (IE: birthdate, RL name, names used in this forum, fandom activities, Gatherings attended, etc)

How would you prefer the content to be set up (function and layout/design) for each category, particularly the calendar page?

Thanks for your help. :)

*** END TGS CR MEMBER INFO RELATED ***
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Head Admin of TGS CR Information
Monday, August 13, 2001 12:27:59 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Josh> <<No, I’m suggesting that Aris is an idiot.>>

Thank you, Josh. The feeling just became mutual. I'm glad that you can reconcile the idea of hell with the idea of justice, finite sins with infinite punishment. My limited intellect has a problem with that - it believes that the existence of hell makes heaven impossible as it makes justice impossible.

And now I'm back to lurking for good this time. I'm glad you reminded me one of the reasons I ended up disliking this room - namely the random abuse without a hint of hesitation or shame.
Aris Katsaris - [katsaris@otenet.gr]
Monday, August 13, 2001 11:58:03 AM
IP: athe530-p120.otenet.gr

Gargoyles Fight Club Addendum.
As a new feature, I'm adding pre-fight commentary. Theoretically, this is to explain to all you faithful fans the hidden logic behind all the matchups. Since there really isn't any hidden logic behind all the matchups, it's mostly just so I can try to be clever.

Anyway, here's this week's commentary:
Goliath vs. Hercules
Herc is stronger, and shows no shortage of smarts, but Goliath has done OK against some pretty strong opponents in the past.

Demona vs. Calisto
They’re both immortal, and crazy. The question becomes, how well will Calisto’s nigh invulnerability stand up to Demona’s particle cannon?

Brooklyn vs. Aeolus
They’re eternal side-kicks. They’re both over-amorous. They both don’t get lucky a lot since they hang around with much buffer guys… Of course one of them ends up with a particle gun and a wife with a sword. The other one gets… a tail and a god for a father-in-law.

Angela vs. Gabrielle (which I’ve now spelled properly)
I have no compelling reason for these two to go at it. They both have a tendency to whine, which some might find endearing.

Sata vs. Xena
To be fair, we’ve got to pick an incarnation of Xena without vast supernatural powers. Even then, I don’t know how fair it is.

Fox vs. Aetalicus (sp? Bruce Campbell’s character)
I’ve got to give it to the lady on looks, but the gentleman has had a lot more screen time.

Odin vs. Zeus
“Are you ready to RUMBLE!!!!!!!!?”

Morrigan vs. Morrigan
I only really chose this one because I thought it was cute that both series had versions of the same character, and the Hercules version of Odin was such a wuss. (Besides, Zeus was more fun). Then again, it’s not a bad match. The Herc Morrigan’s super speed and general mean-ness might let her do quite well against Corbie’s Fey power. She also carries around a good bit of iron.

Puck vs. Aphrodite
If this match-up hath offended,
Think but this, and all is mended…

Vinnie vs. Joxer
I don’t really have anything to add.

David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, August 13, 2001 11:12:40 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Gargoyles Fight Club
Well, somebody already beat me to the Outlaw Star fight club. I’m thinking of a Ranma ½ Fight Club for later, but I still haven’t thought of all the matches. I think this week I’ll visit one of my other addictions. I present for your entertainment:

Gargoyles vs. Hercules/Xena
To make things more interesting, I’m going to change the nature of some of the bouts. Characters who wouldn’t logically just duke it out might have some other kind of contests.

The matches:
Goliath vs. Hercules

Demona vs. Calisto (who they pronounced “Calista” after the first time they introduced her, even though the other way is correct. It’s probably most fair to set this contast after she became immortal, but before she became a god. Then again, why be fair?)

Brooklyn vs. Aeolus - A straight fight is just fine, but it would be equally amusing to watch either of them try to get a date. (Then again, they both ended up happily married, so go figure…)

Angela vs. Gabriel

Sata vs. Xena

Fox vs. Aetalicus (sp? Bruce Campbell’s character) - The contest is to break into a highly guarded, trap laden facility and make off with a valuable prize. Extra points for managing to get done in time to go get your opponent caught. Lots of extra points for being able to steal his prize from him and go put it back where he stole it.

Odin vs. Zeus (presumably before Hercules killed him) - A straight up fight is just fine, but there could be some sort of really big game of volleyball played with Florida as the net, and a hurricane as the ball.

Morrigan vs. Morrigan

Puck vs. Aphrodite - The game is “Dueling Cupids.” Pick some total loser mortal and set him up with a wonderful love affair. The winner is the one who can set up the most unlikely couple. Extra points for making your opponent fall in love with someone obnoxioius while you’re at it.
And, the title bout…

Vinnie vs. Joxer
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, August 13, 2001 10:56:13 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

***Kyryn runs through the CR.***

Revel> Well, hopefully things will have cooled down a bit from the 102F days we've been having when you get back up here. Of course, it is Texas in the summer, and until after Labor Day all bets on lower temps are off. ;)

Josh><It’s a big Canadian flag and it says “CANADIAN CHICKS KICK ASS”. > LOL! I've got a friend from another board that I hang out on. She's Canadian and has a black belt in Tae Kwan Do. Her handle on that board is TKDChick.

Jaden> Glad I could provide a little levity. I sent that addy to my mom and she was telling me about the instructions for a chemical test kit that her company had received from Mitsubishi (they had a medical division -- the two companies were getting ready to merge and checking quality control). Mom's first comment was that she didn't know whether she was to run a lab test or put a car together. When they got the Engrish version of the instructions, they stated that they were to use a derivery
pipette to prepare the solutions, then much
voltex for mixing.

Welcome back to the returnees. It seems like just about everyone is coming out of the woodwork.

Kit> The "Sybil" reference is referring to a very popular 1970's book and movie based on a classic psychology case about a woman with multiple personality disorders. I'm very surprised that you are not familar with the case, since it is considered a classic example of the disorder and is commonly referenced in psych programs and texts used in such programs.

Later,All!

***The speed of Kyryn's passage through the roon blows the door closed behind her.***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Monday, August 13, 2001 10:34:44 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

*Warpmind enters, looking somewhat grim, yet relieved.*
Ladies, gentlemen... finally, the rapist has been identified. the DNA tests have been ready for a while; I was cleared there, too - while the initial test didn't identify the perp, it narrowed it down to one of the (rather inbred) older families in the area. Which pretty efficiently cleared me, since my family moved here when I was 3. But anyway, as I said, they got the real assailant. And, unfortunately, the source of the rumor mill was also identified... as his father. Yup, I was targetted, but not to drag me down as much as to obstruct justice... so there goes the public spanking. Damn, and I really wanted to see that... (I was pondering having singing "She'll be coming round the mountain" to the repertoire, but oh, well... next rumor, maybe...) Anyway, I'm off with a still-clean record, and one HUGE public apology from the locals, and no further satisfaction. *Shrug* Fair enough. I can wait until he gets back out, I suppose... and then, my wrath will be TERRIBLE! Or I could prove to be better than that, and just forget about the whole incident... *Thinks* Naaaaaah. }:) Anyway, with a little luck, there'll be a little financial acknowledgement added in court...

Anyway, on to post.

Fire Storm: I didn't say trackballs were bad. I just hate them. It's personal, not a statement as to their functionality. Capisce?

Mara/Aaron: Woohoo! Congrats! :D (Incidentally, where are those originals? I'm still waiting, and I'm *pretty* sure you got my mailing address. Not to nag, but, well, it's *been* almost two months...)

Fleur: If you think that title is something to slip into regular conversation, well... you should see the expression when asking for it in a *bookstore*! };) As for everybody here worshipping with their hands... I know someone's going to kick me for this, but... Onan was an admirable prophet... };)

Christine: *Unethical grin* Titania's Secret, huh? Dad'll love this one. };)

Revel: A money order would have to be cashed in either in the bank or at the post office. I can't see any problems with that, though. Why?

DPH: The problem is in my head? *Grimace* There are just WAY TOO MANY bad sex puns there... I loathe you, you know. ;)

Josh: Iconized, me? I will go to Iconia? YAY! (Sorry, ST:TNG reference. Very obscure.)

Xanathar: Ayup, the Joyride may be dead and buried, but the Joyriders will live forever. ;)

Hmmm... that about sums up my post... by the way... Those of you playing Druid on the Diablo 2 Expansion, and (like me) probably watch WAY too much "bad" Japanese animation... I warn you: do NOT go into summoning those vine thingies... BAD imagery. BAD imagery.

Well, anyway, later, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, August 13, 2001 10:22:07 AM
IP: garibaldi.ti.telenor.net

Howdy folks,

It has been a while. I'm trying to get back in the habit of posting. Well, what d'ya say? What d'ya know?

Rush Hour 2> Got some laughs but Chris Tucker annoys me as only Barney can. The only big disappointment was Don Cheadle. After see him block all of Chan's moves, I thought He'd hook up with them and have a big mega battle at the end. Cheedle had the moves. Tucker had nothing.

On the trailers, I liked the Jay & Silent Bob trailer, but the cut the best stuff like Carlin explaining to Jay and Bob the rules of the road concerning hitchhiking.

Though a good site tip, if you're looking for trailers check out www.apple.com under quick time.

I'm off. Hope to see you soon.

Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Monday, August 13, 2001 08:21:43 AM
IP: 24.41.0.164

Thank you everybody for the well wishes. My back is feeling much better. And yes, all accidents are dumb, but some more so then others. Trust me, I know, I actually have walked smack into a door.

I saw "The Others" yesterday. A well executed movie for the most part. They did drop hints along the way as to the eventual outcome but most weren't overly ham handed. Two things though. Can I just say that death photos as a memento is a really awful concept? I mean really, yuck. Also, some of you all might find the movie interesting in view of last week's discussion about heaven, hell and preconceptions.

The Doug and Kit thing. Unbelievable. Really. Unbelievable. Fleur your comments were brilliant. Totally on the mark. And "Kit" to admit that you lied when you were allegedly detailing your true details is amazing in its own right. You say you're a psych major? Then I'd suggest you meet up with your peers and get into counselling. Because if you do exist then you've got major, major issues.

And whichever one of you said it SJ or Josh is correct, for some people negative attention is better than no attention so that's the last I'll say about this too except to say Stephen your logic is way, way off the mark.

It isn't wrong to hold people accountable or disapprove of their actions. This is a community and like all communities we have some standards. There must be truth if there is going to be trust.

Aaron and Mara many contgratulations!!

DPH 1 + 1 = 3 What does this mean? Because around here it's a slogan for not having sex.

Okies. Enough from me.
Health and happiness to all.

SJ. Saw DC on the news yesterday. I hope you and yours are safe. What a mess.

kathy
Monday, August 13, 2001 07:04:48 AM
IP: client114022.atl.mediaone.net

Nothing like waking up in the mornig to have your dog lick you after he was drinking from his dish. Cold and very wet.

I have had my say, and I won't say anymore. I was basiclly trying to defend a friend. The thing is I WANT to believe.,but wanting and knowing are two different things.

Thanks to all who wished me on my treatment.

Xanthar,I thought I was shy too but my shyness was very extreme. My post are not usually too big cause I don't have a lot to say.

Josh>>>Have a safe flight. Like you I have to wait until September until I get a new computer too. Ok you love chocolate. I love caramel and if the both of them get together?

SJ>>>What you experianced in weather happens all the time here. People panick and a slight thunderstorm? boy now whenever I see a panicky tourist during a storm I will know where theyre from.

The mention of Jerry Springer reminded e what I saw this morning. There was this guy wh was engaged to woman, they wanted to wat until hy are married until they "Go to the movies" so instead he "Went to the movies" with a blow up doll, then when it went to a commercial the coming up next had a young boy who "went to the movies" with his sister. Thats when I changed the channel. Hey I can handle it in the afternoon. Not in the morning hen I eat my breakfast.

Here is a piece of etertainment news I head this morning. The Baywatch actress who blew off Shaq was blown off herslef. She walked up to Joey Fatone of Nsync and whispered "I'm not wearing any underwear." He said "Why are you telling me this?" and walked off.

Ravyn>>Good to see you back in the room.

Well gotta scoot

"You idiots you captured their stunt doubles"
Spaceballs

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl
Monday, August 13, 2001 07:02:16 AM
IP: proxy.lga.netsetter.com

Ya’ll crack me up! *L *

Kit> I have to agree with those who have said that you have attempted to appear the “victim”. I don’t know what to believe concerning your true identity, but that’s not important. By your own admissions you have lied to us and then you keep stating that you are standing behind your shield of truth or whatever you called it. When you deceive people, it takes a long time to regain that trust again. Naturally people are still going to be cautious and apprehensive about trusting you again.
While reading the story of what happened to Doug at camp I kept thinking about the name of the counselor you said…. Chris Webber. That name sounds awfully familiar. Isn’t he a radio host or on TV in Houston? I may be wrong, but for some reason, that name keeps popping up in my mind that I’ve heard it before and many times over.
Why didn’t Doug go to the campmaster?

Mara> awwww!!! Congratulations to both you and Aaron! Your vacation sounds like it was heavenly and extremely romantic! =) I’m such a sucker for romance *dreamy sigh*
Thanks for the explanation of what happened last year between you, Coyote, and Aaron.
I just hope that everyone will realize that it happened a year ago and since that time you two have formed a strong and loving relationship and Coyote found the girl of his dreams and the love is his life, Rayvn. So, at least this saga has a happy ending for all parties involved.

Josh> <<Okay, I give up. Why’d we pick Lain!?>> We? “We” didn’t have a say in the decision on who would be the admins.
Thanks for explaining Bush’s decisions. I kept forgetting to come in here and doing that. Was it you that insulted Bush on his spelling abilities? (can’t remember) Anyway, is this something that I missed? What is it that he has misspelled? I know that he’s not the best public speaker – but that doesn’t make him a bad or ignorant person. Actually, he’s a pretty good speaker, he just has problems with pronouncing certain words…. Which I can relate to. Does this make me the dufus that you claim that Bush is?
Jury Duty: in Texas they get the information from your driver’s license. There for a while I was chosen for jury once every 6 weeks for a total of 24 weeks. I didn’t mind it, though… it was interesting and it got me away from work for a day or two ; )
Before I left Missouri the first time, I served on a death penalty case – we gave the guy the death penalty (first one in Missouri in over 20 years) I have had no regrets in casting my vote to fry the looser. The trial lasted over a week and we were sequestered the entire time. We couldn’t even order our own food at the restaurants – the matron did that for us. They put us in a motel and banned all forms of outside communication to us. It was definitely an experience!

Ravyn> *screams like a girl * I’m so glad to see you back!!! *happy feet dance * When you get settled back into the college life, drop me an email, ok? I’ve thought of you often since the Gathering and would like to keep in touch =) Encourage that man of yours to post in here more often, ok? I miss reading yours and his posts!

SJ> You keep me laughing, my friend! Even in those rare occasions when I disagree with what you are saying, I laugh at the humor. You really have a talent for comedy.
<<Like I said with the Heather / GB situation, I think it's the lowest to get involved with someone while you're already in an relationship>> Don’t cast any stones until you know the facts. I don’t want to get into it here, though. I’ll say this much, it’s hard to end a relationship when one party won’t communicate with the other. This wasn’t something that Heather and GB *planned * to do, either.

Pistoff> <<but reading posts that have no capital letters or proper punctuation gives me a stabbing pain right behind my eyes.>> LMAO!! Thank you!!
<> amen! As I’ve said before to you, and I believe Josh once told what happened with the liberals at Berkley, some people are open minded only when you agree with them. When you disagree with them, they become like steel traps and want you to shut up. All of the sudden, you are the villain for telling the truth. I may disagree with you on some issues, but I’m sure not going to tell you to shut up about it. You are entitled to your opinion just as I’m entitled to mine. As we have the past… agreed to disagree. (I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you on this, though) ; )

Revel> <<Hell can't be any hotter than Texas>> *L * I’ve heard that it has been one hot booger in Texas lately! Glad that I’m not there right now! The Missouri heat is bad enough. My brother and his family were in Houston this past week and they couldn’t get out of there fast enough – to escape the heat.
<<just watched Battlefield Earth, Clerks, and Space Cowboys just for the hell of it.>> The only one I haven’t seen yet is Battlefield Earth. I thought that Space Cowboys was cute, though. They made an error in that movie though… I forgot which one it was but they were reminiscing about childhood pranks and he said something about rolling someone down the hill in a port a john… they didn’t have port a john’s back when he would be referring to. I have no idea of WHY I would have such knowledge of port a john’s, but I happen to know this one. *L * geesh, I need a life. ; )

Kaioto> <<useless bag of out-dated catch-phrases>> *L* I actually remember these phrases being used and have even used them in their days! *feels old now*
Funny posts from you – wish you would come around more often.

Stephen> I understand your example that you used, but I have to agree that it’s a bit more extreme than what is happening here.

Patrick> I think I felt the earth rumble a bit when you posted in agreement with Pistoff and SJ! ; )

DPH> There are many days that I go an entire day without eating. I don’t eat breakfast and then get busy… it will be 8-9pm before I realize that I hadn’t eaten all day and by that time, it’s too late to eat. I think the longest I’ve ever gone without eating any food was 13 days. I drank Mr. Pibb or small amounts of milk during that period, but no food. I had TMJ so bad that I couldn’t bear opening my mouth wide enough to eat or chew anything. During my worst stomach days, I would go for days on end with just eating a cracker a day… or only olives. By looking at me you’d think that I eat a LOT – but I don’t.
My son is one who feels he has to eat something as soon as his feet touch the floor in the mornings. Good thing he can fix cereal, because I sure don’t cook breakfast around here!

Fluer> excellent post!

Time to begin my day with the drudge of life....
Jan
Monday, August 13, 2001 06:42:47 AM
IP: modem19-183.mo-net.com

Kit: If you are going to give people evidence of your existance, then why not start off by posting a pic of yourself, preferably with Doug. (And not the one you posted with you, your sister and two Ravyns back in August 1998)
If you don't have a place to put it on-line, e-mail it to me and I'll take care of it. If you don't have a scanner, go to Kinkos. It's less than $5 to get a few scans there. Or when you get your next batch of photos developed, get them posted on-line, on disk, or on CD-ROM. It's not too much more then the standard developing fees (In fact, some places can upload them for free).
Fire Storm - [JeremyCBCD@usa.net]
Monday, August 13, 2001 05:44:01 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Hi all!!
Ya know,one of these day's I'll actually make it back in time for the top ten. :)

I had a great weekend,I went to see this band called "Willow" perform at a pub(one of my friends friends is a band member)They were really good,just don't ask me to remember the songs because I got absolutely drunk! ;) (although not as bad as last time when I started throwing up everywhere).Next week I'll be going to see Regugitator play and then I'm going to Phillip Island for the rest of the weekend,I just can't wait until the 3rd of September when I get my holidays. :)

*Looks at everything thats happened in the CR over the last few days*Wow I go out for a few days and all the old faces come back,that's what I love about this place,there's always something going on,it's just like it was 2 years ago only things were a lot happier and more hopeful back then. :(,Welcome back to you all!!

Sorow:Check your email.

Happy birthday to all those out there who are having one.

Warpmind:<<Mononoke, huh? Great acting by Keith David, huh? :)>>Yeah,I always get a kick out of his little narative at the begining.:).I'm sorry to hear about those accusations being made against you,I hate the rumour mill.:/<<the victim may choose the punishment within certain limits... the specific paragraph goes on to describe suitable fines et cetera... but I'm WAY more insidious than that... I'm thinking... self-inflicted public spanking, all the while yelling "I've been a Naughty Boy" should do the trick... }:) Vengeful? Me? Nooooo, never! };)>>Ahh, the chance to see one of the Joyriders in action again,the memories... >:)

Kyryn:*checks out the fun link and chuckles* thanks for the laugh Kyryn,I needed it. :)

Fire Storm:<<Man... this place sucks when people go to sleep! ;)>>No kiding,it was the same with the reunion this year,when I got home from work all the fun was over. :/ (My fault,I guess I should have tried harder.)

Josh:<<I’m not sure if that’s better or not. I can’t imagine leaving my friends for anyone.>>Love is like that,I just wanted to be there for her all the time,I didn't want to make her sad by not being there when she needed me,It seemed like the right thing to do at the time(even after the break-up I still couldn't come back in here because I still wanted to be there for her,but I messed that up to.)<<At least you admit your flaw, unlike my friend who insists that his first girlfriend (who tortured him mercilessly) was well worth the effort.>>What did she do to him if you don't mind me asking?<>each to there own I suppose.<<Dude, I saw Fragility tour TWICE! NIN rocks! All hail Reznor! (he’s a mac user)>>and he's also doing the music for the latest DOOM game apparently!*YAY* :)

Fleur:Thank-you for the birthday wishes,it's good to see you,I didn't think I'd ever hear from you again....I miss you and I'm sorry if I ever hurt you.Your always welcome to email me if you wish,but I'll understand if you don't.(my new addy's on the bottom of this post.)

Spacebabie:<<and I started my tratment yesterday. The only side efect I'm suffering from is Nauseu, wich isnt too bad cause I haven't thrown up yet.>>I'm thinking of you,if that helps at all.<<Part of what the doctor told me is too learn like me for who I am and to share my thoughts with the world. She knows I'm am more talkative through typing. Basicaly I need to get over this fear of rejection and start submitting stuff.>>if it helps I know what you mean,I've always been a terribly shy person(you can probably tell by the length of my posts each night,it's a lot worse for me in real life.),I've always been affraid to open up to people because they might hurt me.<<Well the good news is I got over my quesyness. The trick is to take the pill after I finished eating.>>Good to hear,friend.:)

MARA & AARON:Congratulations you two.

I have to go now,I'm truely sorry if I missed anyone,take care all!!

Xanathar - [ameader@bigpond.net.au]
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Monday, August 13, 2001 04:24:20 AM
IP: cpe-203-45-26-71.vic.bigpond.net.au

*Enters*
Okay, so, I went to bed at around 11 PM last night. (This is relevant to my "catch phrase" Du Jour.)

Imzy: Waah! lucky Josh got to hang out with lain!! ...Isn't she cool? oh, and "GLOMM" is a manga term. It's kinda like a hug to the tenth power.

Yaay! Got an email response from Aaron! *does a little Lynati dance* heh heh heh...okay, now I've got direction for the rest of that scene. ];)

And I finished reading Stephen King's "On Writing" last ni...earlier today. Wanna hear something funny?
He's a fan of the Harry Potter series.
That just strikes me as horribly ironic.

*Fades*
Lynati "up at 2:30 am AGAIN? Why me?" Kshudra
Monday, August 13, 2001 03:04:15 AM
IP: 207.226.219.89

I can't believe I know the anwsers to this...

DPH: <What is the deal with Skull Greymon and Metal Greymon? War Greymon and Dark War Greymon? Are they just alternate forms, or is one weaker than the other?>
I don't know the exact order but I THINK Skull is the weakest of the list, then metal and WAR is the strongest. Dark War Greymon is as strong as War Greymon, but he was just made from 100 control spires.

<What is Devimon's ultimate form?>
Whatever form was shown at the end of the second season... I think.

<Why so many digi-destined? Were they that unsure of the the 1st team suceeding that they created alternate teams in case of failure?>
The most likely cause for the entire Earth population being Digidestined is because the events from the first and second seasons of Digimon led up to the complete intigration of the real world and the digital world. The millions of destined is just the end result.

AND WHO THE FRELL got with Kari? Did Davis or (The keeper of Angemon) ever go out with her?
And Yoli and Ken? Come on... But it makes sense in an Anime sort of way.

Imzadi: Hey, Digimon is better than Pokemon. Digimon has a REAL plot that takes place over an entire season, as opposed to Pokemon trying to stretch a plot over an entire episode!

Today on Pokemon: Ash meets a Pokemon trainer, Team Rocket gets blown up and everyone learns a valueable lesson
Can anyone guess what episode I am talking about? ;)

More later when I get home.
Fire Storm
Monday, August 13, 2001 02:03:57 AM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Imzadi: <Joke> I was going along with your joke. <adopts a sudden grin and laughs> Gotcha! :)

<environmental treaty> I didn't know about the Third World countries bit. What I get for not watching CNN and paying more attention to Doonesbury. :( I agree with you on it. Now I agree. <shakes head> I needed to get all the facts straight on this one, thanks for setting me straight. Oh, and btw, I've never considered myself a hippie and I don't think just one little opinion I have makes me one either. Am I wrong? Thanks for all your advice on the current bad situation, I appreciate it. Some of it I may even take. :) Thanks for the jokes, I didn't laugh at all of them, but I did get them. <visit me in San Francisco> Doug and I will think about it. Give our regards to Lain.

I'm too tired to say any more on anything more. Tired of what I'll leave it up to the room to guess.
Kit
Sunday, August 12, 2001 09:39:58 PM
IP: 198.211.187.194

::listening to Guster’s “Lost and Gone Forever”::

An appropriate lyric from that album: “I’m the center of attention and the wall’s inside my head. And no one will ever know it if I keep my mooth shut…”

Hey folks!

I got to hang oot with Lain today and YOU didn’t! Neener neener neener!

Picked her up at the bus station at aboot 11AM, then my cousin Paul dropped us off at the ferry, which we took across the Lake to the island. We rollerbladed back and forth across the island for a few hoors, then took the ferry back and got lunch, then I dropped her back at the bus station and that was oor day. Ended at aboot 530PM. Good time with good company, I say.

She’s just a big JERK. Kinda like me.

I got back just after my cousins left for dinner, so I had the hoose to myself for a few hoors. When my cousins came back, I had a long talk with Donna and she said that I have an open invitation to come up here whenever and bring whoever I want with me. They said they don’t even need advance notice. And since I know the alarm codes, I don’t even have to knock to annoonce my presence by knocking. I just walk right in ;-)

So who wants to come to Toronto with me over winter break (yes, it WILL be cold)?

Lain gave me the Finger…of god! Her big statue that she made oot of computer parts…she ripped off the finger and gave it to me. I’ll treasure it always ;-)

I also got a Maple Leaf the size of my face, and a sneak preview of Josh-goyle, and a picture of Warpmind-goyle.

The whole Doug/Kit thing: here’s my take. I don’t have any problems posting to and responding to these two, whether or not they exist. Its not a question of supporting them or not, it just because I like to post, I like to jest, I like to mock. Given that, I’m sure I’ll fill any posts to Doug/Kit with jokes that refer to the situation. If you don’t like them, don’t post to them. If you think they are just trying to get attention, then DENY THEM THAT. People in here don’t seem to understand that you don’t defeat cries for attention with a scolding. You defeat it with a silent treatment.

Saw Rush Hoor 2 the other night. It was pretty damn funny. I also saw the preview for JAY AND SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK!!! I can not WAIT to see this movie. Its gonna f*cking rock! And of course its got Chris Rock, George Carlin, Kevin Smith, and Apple Computers 8-) LONG LIVE BLUNTMAN AND CHRONIC!!!

Here’s something that sucks @$$: my mom can’t pick me up from the airport tomorrow even though she’s unemployed because she has JURY DUTY! They ACTUALLY picked her! Well, that’s what you get for doing your “civic duty” and filling oot that form honestly (or at all). That’ll teach me. I learn from other people’s mistakes. So now I’ve got to pay a shuttle or something to drive me home. Sucks, but I’ll live.

Warpmind: You are due to be iconized. <<It's unpacked, installed and working... and it's a TRACKBALL>>: GAH! NOOOOOO! <<My Diablo 2 accuracy has been shot to pieces>>: I have a USB scroller if you want? <<isn't this going to be the "brown-paper issue>>: Can’t wait, can ya? <<For fun, I can understand. For profit? Naaaah>>: If you can do it for both, you have the perfect job. <<this law states that, in cases of undue slandering, when the purpose is solely to ruin someone's reputation and/or social standing... the victim may choose the punishment within certain limits>>: Take the money. Although the other punishment may seem entertaining, you’ll want the cash to come to G2k2.

MorningSong: <<Coincidence, or conspiracy>>: The latter, definitely.

Kit: <>: You hippies are being unfairly harsh on him. Bush said this country would not ratify a treaty that excluded third world developing nations. They wrote a treaty that excluded third world developing nations. So we rejected it. Its all fair, after all. Why should THEY not have to follow the same rules that we do? Is there environment more/less important than oors? I think NOT! So give Bush a break, he was completely justified in doing what he did. <<Bush is very much to blame for our current state of affairs with them I believe>>: Oh please! He’s been president for less than a year! <<being isolationist is one of the biggest mistakes a country can make>>: We are NOT being isolationist just because we disagree with some environmental treaty. Get over it. <<Sorry for getting you mad about the computer, I was just trying to be nice>>: I don’t get mad…I get even ;-) <>: Some kids ingested some narcotic and went on a murder spree after playing D&D. <<Just an expression, I'm surprised you don't know it. It means going to sleep>>: It was a JOKE. Jeez, do you WATCH gargoyles!? <<Not unless our next computer forces it on us. Like the one I'm using now did Windows 2000>>: Um, computers don’t force Win2k upgrades. <<Did you come up with that one yourself or get some wino downstairs to help you with it>>: Myself, thanks. <<Don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question>>: Too late. <<Doug had a friend who went to Greece for a few of her college years too>>: I’m shocked. <<He smiles whenever he talks about her, and I grin too>>: I don’t wanna know. <>: Don’t you get it? Stop posting to him! You just give him more fodder. Unless you’re me, and you like watching him destroy stuff for amusement, don’t feed his desire for blood. <<I'm thrilled you consider my sex life that way. It doesn't really seem that way to me>>: I’m sure Doug is thrilled to know that. <<I'm infertile, any text on the psychological implications of that will tell you I should also have a propensity towards nymphomania>>: Most girls I know that are infertile are prudes. <<what he did was justified, right, and necessary>>: I’ll give you justified, but not the other two. Many people think I’m gay, so I know EXACTLY what is justified, right, and necessary. I just have better restraint. Also, you tell this story remarkably well considering it didn’t happen to you. <<You prick us, we bleed; you tickle us, we laugh; you wrong us, we revenge>>: Actually, I revenge for any of those things 8-) <<go on our honeymoon to San Francisco>>: My backyard! Drop by Berkeley, we’ll get coffee. <<glad he didn't take your computer away like he was threatening (that's obvious since you're posting, though you correct me if I'm wrong>>: He just took away her modem. She posts from the library. <<good luck with your visit to Josh, hope you both enjoy it a lot>>: Thanks, we did! <<that is a really cute mean admin face>>: Wait till you see it in real life. <>: You seem to get along well enough with me, and I’m a self-proclaimed @$$hole. <<So you and Lexy are doing okay>>: They’re getting married soon. <>: In all fairness, you don’t see her at all. <<Can someone please remind me where it's gonna be and when>>: Virginia Beach, VA. Date TBD, apparently.

FS: <<Ye shall not utter bad things about thine trackball>>: Can I utter them aboot someone else’s trackball?

Mara: Welcome back! Been long, missed you. Where’s the boy? <<This is a love story, babe>>: Thank you very much for the warning! Much appreciated. However, I read it anyway because I’m a masochist. ;-) <<All of them seemed quick to fall under that charm he doesn't seem to see within himself>>: Even MY family liked him! And they don’t like anyone ;-) <<We exchanged vows of love at the shore of Rockaway beach, instead on infront of the Happy smiling whale sculpture like he wanted. My friend Robin (ULM) performed the cermony- we're married in our hearts.. if not in our tax forms>>: Congrats! I wish the two of you much happiness. Of course, the “fifth wheel” factor will increase by 50 fold at the next Gathering…I’ll just have to hang with the guys. Is there gonna be a real wedding ever? <<Our vows were a combination of Braveheart, Gargoyles and... to his grimace, NGE>>: I’d like a copy of the actual scripting, if I could see it. Soonds beautiful. <<That was my vacation, but how are you>>: I’m thuper, thanks for athking 8-)

Fleur: <<All those on their summer vacations: FOR THE LOVE OF WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE IN, ENJOY IT>>: I did. Believe me, I did. The only part I didn’t enjoy was working…but I got a new computer oot of it so I think it was worthwhile. <<although I couldn’t stop myself from devouring every scrap of the Gathering stuff like a hungry vulture - living vocariously thru others, works for me>>: You’re welcome ;-) <<sorry Josh, couldn’t resist>>: I’ll tell my dad (that’d be the King of Vinyl) that you said that. He’ll think its hysterical. <>: Ask if you can boorrow a cup of sugar. <<WE DO NOT SOUND LIKE THE CROCODILE MAN!!! REALLY>>: Do you really think I’ve never met an Aussie? Well I have. <<If more people _acted_ like Jesus did, instead of memorising his words, this world would be a much better place>>: I’m working on the whole “walk on water” thing. Really. <<everybody here worships with their hands>>: Depends on what/who I’m worshipping. On “her”, I tend to use more than my hands. And while “worship” is DEFINITELY a euphemism, I don’t need to know that much aboot other’s techniques. <<Reading over this, I just _know_ Josh isn't going to be able to resist that last sentence>>: Ya know, I don’t remember posting that many comments to you. You must be reading my posts a lot to make that kind of judgement. You would, of course, be right. <<If the calendar thing gets off the ground, it’s going to need a whole new page for this month>>: We should be so lucky. <>: How’d you survive?! <>: The Greg’s butt stuff was funnier. Read the post by FS where he writes oot the scene of the Garg clan watching the Demona/Joker fight. It’s a riot. <<this place wasn’t getting hot enough for ya, so you decided to press some buttons marked ‘nuclear’>>: Flame wars are fun if not educational. <>: I know I do. If its on a baseball field, I want dugoot seats. Otherwise I’ll go for the private box with the cute waitress. <<And you still have time to look after the CR>>: She is truly oor Wonder Woman. <>: If it makes you feel any better, I didn’t do anything nearly so impressive this summer. <>: WOW! Flattering! And you’ve never even met my friends and relatives. But I confess that for the most part they’re pretty cool. I don’t have any friends in Biker gangs, but I do have one who drove a tractor in Australia for an entire year for some ridiculous amoont of money. ;-) But when you hear aboot a small upstart computer company that does Mac software built by Berkeley programmers…those are all friends of mine too. As for the homes…they rule, I confess. My family has excellent taste. <<even before the three-million gathering photos>>: I did NOT take that many! But I probably will next time! Glad you enjoyed them. <>: You never thought I was really SJ? Sh*t, gotta work on that. <<I’d kill for the kind of love Fire Storm and Lady Mystic share>>: Ditto. <<they come to the Comment Room as real people, with faults, and boring moments, and fears and doubts and vulnerabilities>>: Ironically, I came in here trying to NOT demonstrate those flaws. But you guys became such great friends that it made sense to turn here when I did have problems. If I never posted my problems, would you think I was real? <<You couldn’t get it for yourself>>: I think you’re missing something here. They want it, you don’t want to give it to them. So don’t post to them! <<You want fans, get a marketing department>>: I was gonna say IKEA, but that works too. <<website>>: I’d like to link to your site on my webpage, that alright? Also, I have a minor comment on your site: that floating gargoyles logo backgroond makes it IMPOSSIBLE to read the text. ;-) <<I'd like to add I want the love her and Aaron have too (and I don't doubt their existence either>>: Better not! My brother is gonna be CRUSHED if Aaron isn’t real. And I have pictures that say they are. And I’m always right. Therefore they exist.

Greg X: <>: I really wanted to say “too late, Fleur did it first” but it doesn’t look like she did.

Robby: <<Would that be Crocadile Dundee, Paul Hogan, or Crocadile Hunter, Steve Irwin>>: They soond the same, don’t they?

Lynati: << Runs over and GLOMMs Aaron and Mara>>: What is this word, GLOMM?

Shadowrider: << takes out his Beretta AR 70/90 and fires a burst of 5,56 JHP to Mr. DC>>: NICE. << they stopped completely when I told them to do>>: Its good that you stuck up for your friend. Most people wouldn’t do that against a group of bad guys.

Queen of Pain: << most of us had to sleep on top of the covers>>: I love doing that. << there was this flash that nearly blinded me followe by a large thunderclap that had me nearly jump out of my skin>>: That’s awesome. Lightning storms are such a turn on 8-) << we didn't loose power, but the cable went out>>: Power with no cable!? How did you survive?! << Prove it! Lets see both of you make an appearance at Gathering 2002. If not then we know the truth>>: That’s awful. Not everyone can afford a trip for ONE to Gathering from Texas, let alone a trip for 2! Remember, Doug’s the only one of that couple working. So whether she exists or not, I don’t think we can use G2k2 as proof that she doesn’t. Talk aboot circumstantial evidence. << Drew Carey has been admited to the hospital for a heart attack>>: NO! <<The surgery is for a prostectamy you silly goose>>: Soorry. You talked aboot “the surgery” for britney spears and then “the surgery” for your dad. << As for me eating choclate, nahhh, I'd rather be eating something with caramel>>: WHAT!? My mother taught me that if it’s not chocolate, its not worth the calories!

Smut pandering bitch queen of all creation: << this one will include the Titania's Secret Catalog>>: Can’t wait!

FS: <<posters coming out of the woodwork>>: Or the wirework, as it were!

Sevarius, Jr.: Ya know something, you really crack me up. I know that’s not your point at all, but its very entertaining nonetheless. << when it's snowing outside, people will literally abandon their automobiles IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD>>: Damn rednecks. << When it comes to harsh weather, we're pussies>>: You should see the LA people. << their posts are almost exactly alike in every way possible, except for text color and a few male references with "Doug" and a few female references with "Kit".>>: Your posts are exactly like mine when I’m pissed off aboot something, yet no one seriously thinks we are the same person. Maybe it’s the IP addy’s? Or possibly because I’m far more interesting and complex. << you do remember the ol' one-finger salute that Doug / Kit gave, don't you?>>: Indeed. <>: I think she’ll post anything to piss you off because she’s really a fifth grader with a mad crush on you. << You want attention so badly that you came crawling back here>>: And you, stooge, are happy to give it to him! Attention is attention, whether good or bad. <>: OOCH. <>: LOL. << Most people that don't like me? Doesn't really bother me>>: I think you’re pretty cool. If Daniel Johnson doesn’t want to be my roommate at G2k2, the spot is open to you, bud. << considering you're just some loser that has an imaginary girlfriend in his head>>: I’m starting to wonder if EVERY girlfriend I had was just a figment of my imagination. << Though you can probably imagine I'm terrible with the mushy stuff>>: I think I’ve got a pretty good idea…;-) << for purely selfish reasons, I miss Aaron too>>: LOL. << all we need is for Kaioto to return to tell me what a horrible person I am for saying such awful things about Doug>>: If I see him online I’ll let him know. << Cause a dead horse deserves a good beating!>>: I’m sure the Godfather would agree. << I'd say absurd, but I'm straining for civility>>: How can we tell? << oh-so-clever "I'm always the victim" drama act>>: I hope you’re being sarcastic when you call it “clever”. << Proving that Kit really exists, a Herculean effort if there was one, would do nothing to me>>: I had a feeling that would be the case. Its as if we’re psychically connected or something! <<kai’s post>>: He’s kidding, of course, and I put him up to it. Thankyouverymuch. <<

Ravyn: Welcome back buddy! Good to hear from you again! << I'm getting ready to move back up to the ol' university this week for my sophomore year>>: Best of luck with that. What classes are you taking (besides the ones I took last semester ;-)) <>: “Some people in here may not know what a ‘con’ is!” << or Sappy, as you know him, Josh... **giggles**>>: Always a pleasure to have my own name for someone. << I'm having MAJOR Coyote-withdrawl>>: lol. Take up smoking ;-)

Pistoff: <>: People see what they want to see. In your case, they want to see you as the bad guy, so they do. I know better. << I don't know, maybe your keyboard doesn't have them. I'm not *incredibly* anal about these things, but reading posts that have no capital letters or proper punctuation gives me a stabbing pain right behind my eyes.>>: Aboot time someone else said something!

Revel: <>: I’m prood of you too! << watched Battlefield Earth, Clerks, and Space Cowboys just for the hell of it. (I hadn't seen Space Cowboys yet, but it was okay>>: I only saw Clerks of those three, and it rocked. I heard the other two blew chunks. << you see you are not the only one who can ramble about things>>: When do I ramble? When did YOU ramble? <>: You asked for it… << As for being like you, well, mentally it may already be too late>>: Sorry to hear that. There’s a 12-step recovery program somewhere. << smooth sailing or calm winds beneath your wings, which ever you fancy (tough choice>>: Dear god, it is a tough choice. I think I’d go with wings, despite loving sailing. << hold off on those joint tax returns, from what I hear is theat they're a pain in the a$$>>: But there must be a lot of benefits, otherwise gays wouldn’t be fighting so hard to have legally recognized marriages. << Hell can't be any hotter than Texas and I'm already surrounded by lawyers and used car salesmen>>: LOL. << Besides Josh will keep me company>>: Awww, shucks ::blushes::.

Stephen: << now some of the people that I know that said what they did about Columbine, are now zinging Doug in similar fashion to what those bullies did>>: I totally disagree. The people that are “picking” on Doug are the ones that said are the ones that were saying “I know how those kids felt, but shooting everyone in sight was NOT the right answer”. Because the people that are “picking” on Doug are the people who think that rational processes are the best. You don’t shoot your way oot of stress, you don’t invent a fiancée to fit in. << Didn't what happened in Columbine make sense to anyone else as to why harrasing or bullying a person is WRONG>>: No. Columbine shows us that shooting everyone is a sorry response to being picked on. Yeah, it sucks. Get over it. Fight with fists. Don’t take an AK to school. << there's going to be a lot of crow served to many of us>>: Oh, I don’t think so. If, during their honeymoon in San Francisco, they decide to drop by and pay me a visit (TOGETHER), then I will post that I met them and hopefully everyone will believe me and NOT think that I am really another one of Doug’s personalities. But I think the people in here who are most angry at Doug would gladly admit that they were wrong if they were, yet still say “but you gotta admit, XYZ was pretty suggestive”. << even though I know there's some stuff we won't and don't agree on>>: No, because Doug agreed with everyone over everything..

DPH: << Most of the problem in your head>>: I’ll say! << Anybody try getting up and NOT eating for 6-7 hours>>: I do it all the time. I can’t eat breakfast withoot feeling ill, so sometimes I wake up late and eat a late lunch/early dinner when I get hungry, bam, 6-7 hoors. << DIGIMON Question>>: WHO CARES!? Anything-MON is the DUMBEST THING EVER CREATED (even dumber than synchronized swimming, even dumber than the Trojan Rabbit – which wasn’t real).

Kaioto: << You are the lowest form of life on the Earth for saying such things!!! You should be a guest on the Jerry Springer show. You need complete moral reprogramming and should model your entire life around those principles which I myself (shamefully) can not obtain but continue to obsess over>>: LOL! << play baseball for me too, or you're not an American>>: heh heh. I must not be an American. << you can neither force people to understand nor can you reach through the wires and throttle them>>: Speak for yourself. The next generation 3-D monitor will have “iFeel” which enables me to do just that remotely. New AIM buttons: warn, block, add buddy, talk, get info, THROTTLE, send. 8-) << You can't enact any serious change in the world on a computer unless you have missile launch codes>>: This is true. <<Speak of the devil>>: He’s a great guy, part of my bowling league. <>: So I see ;-) <<I'll go to confession 5 years later and feel really sorry about it and whip myself with barbed pieces of leather covered in salt and citric acid concentrate>>: Ooch! Yet more exciting than even Kit’s sex life! ;-)

Patrick: <>: Who’s second coming? And which lucky devil got to see the first? <<how so many others can be willing to just brush this whole thing under the rug and pretend it never happened>>: I am not doing that. I’m just entertaining myself and possibly a few others. <<That we should all humor someone who may potentially be unstable, and tolerate tall tales and other assorted BS just to keep him / her happy>>: No. We should block their IP. <<The Gathering 2002 will be in Virginia Beach, VA on the last weekend in July of next year>>: What happened to August? <<it's times like this I wish I was GW Bush>>: If you were Dubya you wouldn’t be smart enough to SPELL “launch codes”, let alone use them. The fact that a man who can’t spell is oor president is the most disturbing thing in the world. Not quite as disturbing as having Leiberman as Vice President, but very disturbing nonetheless. Don’t look at me, this republican voted Nader!

Siryn: <<Next time I see you online...you and I need to 'TALK'.>>: BUSTED! Oooooooh! <<NO date for the Gathering 2002 has been SET as of yet>>: You realize now I have to delay making my plans for an additional number of days! You also realize that I didn’t make plans to go to G2k1 until May 14. ;-)

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Tomorrow, I leave for Los Angeles. Parting is such sweet sorrow in this case. I’ve really enjoyed my time up here in funny-money land, but on the other hand I have much to look forward to when I get home.

That is all, folks. Good nite.

Dude, straws. Real men shouldn’t be sucking on things.
-Rocky Teruya

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Toronto, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Sunday, August 12, 2001 09:12:53 PM
IP: hse-toronto-ppp255355.sympatico.ca

*Grabs Patrick by the ear firmly but gently*

Patrick> Next time I see you online...you and I need to 'TALK'.

FYI FOR Everyone in the room> NO date for the Gathering 2002 has been SET as of yet. As soon as I know, everyone will be informed. (You will all know the SECOND I do, TRUST ME.) I personally apologize for any trouble/confusion this has caused.

If anyone has any questions, comments, concerns, death threats, etc Please feel FREE to email meand my staff.
Siryn --2002 Convention Chair - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Sunday, August 12, 2001 08:57:57 PM
IP: ac8a6e42.ipt.aol.com

I've been watching this discussion all weekend and it's at the point now where I've just got to add my own two cents.

First off... I'm in complete and total agreement with everything SJ and Pistoff have said. I know that's probably is one of the signs of the second coming... but everything they've said makes perfect sense to me. Particulary the comments about not understanding how so many others can be willing to just brush this whole thing under the rug and pretend it never happened, because that's just blowing my mind, too. Honestly... there's a difference between "forgive and forget" and burying your head in the sand.

Secondly... Stephen, what are you saying, exactly? That we should all humor someone who may potentially be unstable, and tolerate tall tales and other assorted BS just to keep him / her happy? That's not the way to deal with it in real life, and it's not going to work on the internet, either. All that does is encourage more of the same. BTW... you ARE right about one thing... you're one of the last people who should be lecturing others about "zinging" people.

Finally... to Doug and Kit... I'm not sure what to say. I don't really know either of you well at all... I only know you from seeing your posts in this comment room. But if I may offer a humble suggestion... it would seem the only way you're going to be able to put the "rumors" to rest is for you to both be seen together in real life. FYI, The Gathering 2002 will be in Virginia Beach, VA on the last weekend in July of next year.

And now a few other comments:

Mara and Aaron > Congratulations!

Kaioto > "You can't enact any serious change in the world on a computer unless you have missile launch codes." -- Heh... it's times like this I wish I was GW Bush.

And now it's time for me to get to bed.

:: vanishes in a flash of light ::
Patrick Toman
Sunday, August 12, 2001 08:44:36 PM
IP: 64.109.210.95

If anybody mis-understood that post, it was a joke, btw. ;P

Speak of the devil, you know? ]:)

Anyway, I don't post here anymore.

um ... yeah ... I know ... you know what I mean :P

My plates a little to full right now to juggle too many other people's issues, please and thank-you.

Maybe that's being an insensative jerk. Maybe it is being cowardly. Heck, it is both, I'll admit it. But I've got responsibilities that come first, and I'm not putting those responsibilities aside right now to be here.

I wash my hands of any messes that go on in here. Yes, that makes me Pilate. God can kick my ass over it later, after about 10,000,000 other things I've done wrong in my life.

Hopefully, He'll get to do it AFTER I'm got the wife, the degree, the house, and put in a few decades of good behavior.

Better yet, I'm Catholic. I'll go to confession 5 years later and feel really sorry about it and whip myself with barbed pieces of leather covered in salt and citric acid concentrate.

Down JackaL! Down boy! ;-)

Entry #178 - "Peace out."
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Sunday, August 12, 2001 07:43:05 PM
IP: h0080c72118a5.ne.mediaone.net

Stephen: Thank you.

Kaioto: Thank you too. Good to see you in here again. Hell, good to see you again period. <whoops and leaps on Kaioto in a hug> So you and Lexy are doing okay? I hope so. Doug does too. :) Good sayings about the Internet, after experiences I've had with it I too think they are very true.

DPH: Nothing's sinister about it, I guess. <shrugs> I don't know why I felt strange when I read your question. Maybe it was nothing. <scratches head> I graduated from UT-Austin. I may not go to graduate school there though, I might want to go somewhere else. I have a few years to think about it.

Spacebabie: I'm sorry that you were misled by someone else into believing a nonexistent person existed and died. I give you my word that that is not happening here. I am not doing it, nor is Doug or anybody else. I exist. Yeah, I know there's evidence that says I don't, but that evidence can be refuted. In fact, I will refute it, all of it, if someone will just remind me what it was. I don't know if you're going to believe me on this, but I'm still saying it just the same. And hoping. <sigh> I'm sorry that you feel the way you do, I really am. I wish there was some way I could make you and everyone feel better. On Mara, well, she's always seemed cold to me. She told me herself in a post in here she was a cold woman. You don't believe me, look in the June 2001 archives, it's there. I see her differently than you do, I guess. Glad you're getting help for your traumatic experiences, hope it's working. <Gathering '02> Maybe Doug and I will attend it together, it could do a little good. Can someone please remind me where it's gonna be and when?

One other thing, Spacebabie. I guess this is for SJ too. Why are y'all calling me Sybil? I don't get the reference. I probably should, but I don't. Can y'all explain it please?

Drew Carey: I never really watched his show, but I too hope he gets better, and soon.

Later everyone.
Kit
Sunday, August 12, 2001 07:32:07 PM
IP: 0-1pool114-134.nas1.austin1.tx.us.da.qwest.net

SJ> You are the lowest form of life on the Earth for saying such things!!! You should be a guest on the Jerry Springer show. You need complete moral reprogramming and should model your entire life around those principles which I myself (shamefully) can not obtain but continue to obsess over.

Oh yeah, and play baseball for me too, or you're not an American. ^_^ v

Hm ... Jerry Springer.

You know, I watched too much TV as a child. I read too much on the Internet as an adult. There are two things I've learned that make me not want to take things on a screen too seriously anymore:

1.) No matter how hard you try, you can neither force people to understand nor can you reach through the wires and throttle them.

2.) You can't enact any serious change in the world on a computer unless you have missile launch codes.

Hm ... useless bag of out-dated catch-phrases ...

Entry #47 - "Catch you on the flip side."
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Sunday, August 12, 2001 07:19:29 PM
IP: h0080c72118a5.ne.mediaone.net

Cause a dead horse deserves a good beating!

Stephen: Okay, I think your analogy of comparing the Doug / Kit fiasco to Columbine is inaccurate. I'd say absurd, but I'm straining for civility. There's a fundamental difference. Up until the point where they just blew the bejeezus out of everyone, including themselves, Klebold and Harris didn't do anything to deserve their harassment. I know, you're thinking that Doug / Kit didn't either, but there IS a reason why some of us are giving "them" grief. "They" did lie to us. If you don't believe me, look at "Kit"'s last couple of posts, specifially the stuff related to me and to Pistoff. "She" admitts that "they" lied, and also exaggerated other stuff (which I perceive to just be a semantic way of saying "I lied about the other stuff too, but I don't want to cop to it, so I'll say I exaggerated."). There you go. You can argue that none of us have proof that Doug / Kit do not exist, but we have been lied to, at least on some level, because "Kit" herself / himself admitted as much. I say we have been lied to more than Doug / Kit is willing to admitt to, but I suppose a small admission is all we're going to get from him / her. There's your difference. Klebold and Harris--nothing to deserve their harassment. Doug / Kit--EVERYTHING to deserve "their" harassment. We were lied to. If you don't believe that, then unfortunately I think you're buying into Doug / Kit's oh-so-clever "I'm always the victim" drama act.

Also, I'm assuming you're referring to me, among others, as one of people who will be eating crow when it magically turns out that Kit really exists. As an aside, I don't think that will ever happen, because there have been numerous documented cases of numerous opportunities in which one of us (us being the CR dwellers) could have met Kit, or Doug and Kit together, and were unable to because, at the last minute, Kit had to go do something else. Go visit a relative, etc., the standard excuses. I can't believe that ALL of those cases were just mere coincidence.

But let's assume the impossible: that Kit really is a real person. No, I would not be eating crow (take that as me adopting a "I'm never wrong" stance if you wish). Because you are only seeming to focus on my commentary on the questionable existence of Kit. I don't like Doug because he's a liar. A compulsive one, who doesn't have the decency or intelligence to just cop to his lying when he's caught red-handed. When the deception had run it's course, and he was found out, how did he respond? He left, disappeared without explanation, and then showed up to give everyone an "f*** you". So, you could parade the real, live, breathing Kit in front of me all you wanted to, the bottom line is that I would never say I'm sorry to Doug because he still doesn't think that what he did was wrong. AND he's still doing it. Why should I feel sorry for him or show him any compassion? Proving that Kit really exists, a Herculean effort if there was one, would do nothing to me. Honestly, even then I'd doubt who she said she was, cause I'm petty enough to believe that he'd ask some chick to portray his imaginary girlfriend. I don't believe anything that comes out of Doug's mouth, so why should I change my opinion of him in the least if all of a sudden Kit really shows up?
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Sunday, August 12, 2001 07:16:32 PM
IP: 66-44-70-108.s108.tnt9.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Kit - what is so sinister about asking where you graduated? I will admit to graduating with a 2 year degree from Pulaski Tech College.

Warpmind - It takes a little bit to get used to trackballs. Most of the problem in your head.

The list-owner of a yahoo group I am moderating sent me an email, saying congrats for getting a lot messages posted.

Anybody try getting up and NOT eating for 6-7 hours? It's amazing how hungry a person can get afte not eating for a while.

My dad was gone this weekend, just getting back a few hours ago. Talk about having a peacefull weekend.

1+1=-3

**Countdown to end of BFTS RP**
That's what I just said. No more BFTS RP. Lack of interest is a main factor and it has picked up the way I hoped it would. In 2 months if BFTS RP is not picked by someone besides anybody, say adios to the BFTS RP and the BFTS RP yahoo group.
**END Countdown to end of BFTS RP**

You know, compared to the PRC discussion board, things are peacefull here.

**DPH spots DisHarmony back in the TGS CR.** Hmm, I knew DisHarmony was planning something big, and I know what it is. Time to start nullifying DisHarmony's plans for the CR. Notice: this is being done in secret.

**DIGIMON Question**
What is the deal with Skull Greymon and Metal Greymon? War Greymon and Dark War Greymon? Are they just alternate forms, or is one weaker than the other?

What is Devimon's ultimate form?

Why so many digi-destined? Were they that unsure of the the 1st team suceeding that they created alternate teams in case of failure?
**END DIGIMON Questions**

That's all for now.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, August 12, 2001 06:33:23 PM
IP: max1-56.cwy.cei.net

Greetings all...

Recovering from a workday and spending the weekend with Kellie Fey, Ithica and Hudson in Orlando... it was fun! Kellie deserves to be given a Good Hospitality award, she made me feel welcome at her place.

Okay... after reading a lot of the comments in here as of late, I felt I'd better give mine and be done with it.

First off, I can see how a lot of people are over feeling how Kit is just a figment of Doug's imagination, and that he did it to make himself fit in here, or become popular, or whatever. People find it funny that his charade continues, others are still angry about it, and the attacks go on and on and on...

What bothers me the most about it is two things... and first, let me state that in truth, I would hope a lot of us are wrong about Kit and Doug being one in the same... yeah, I sound so naive, sue me. I tend to be a person that tends to believe people are what they say they are, unless I'm proven wrong (i.e. - Not meeting them in Real Life, talking to them on the phone, etc.)

However, the one thing that bothers me is that if the truth is what a lot of us believe - Kit's not real, just someone Doug made up - we're going to aggrevate the situation by antagonizing him about it, and I fear the worst might, MIGHT happen if the pressure continues to build.

I'm not saying anything will happen, but a lot of us were appaled by what those kids at Columbine did when they were teased and ostrazized by the general student body... I heard a lot of us saying "How Terrible! People should just stop picking on people!", etc. etc. ... and now some of the people that I know that said what they did about Columbine, are now zinging Doug in similar fashion to what those bullies did... not over the same things, but against what they feel is not "right" for them, or for our "community" here in the CR.

Granted, I can't throw the first stone persay, I'm certainly guilty of zinging other people in here and elsewhere... but I have to say thus: Didn't what happened in Columbine make sense to anyone else as to why harrasing or bullying a person is WRONG???

By that same token, the other thing that bothers me is that if what we believe is wrong - In short, Doug AND Kit appear before someone in the fandom - Then, there's going to be a lot of crow served to many of us, and I know a lot of people just don't like to be proven wrong about anything. Period. And that's going to cause a lot more trouble with people now harboring grudges against people (for being made look foolish, etc. etc.) and that is something I find just as bad as the worst-case senario on the first point.

Besides I consider Doug a friend... and despite whether or not my belief in Kit's reality is proven right or wrong, I'll still consider Doug a friend. I'm not saying any of the anger or betrayal or whatever anyone else is feeling isn't valid or whatnot... I know I'd feel the same if something parallel was to happen to me from someone I was really close to. That's the nature of man.

But, to me friends are a precious commodity. I treasure them as much as any man would to gold, diamonds or anything rare. I hate it when I lose them, and revel when they're reaffirmed or returned. And Doug has been one of the few people that did accept me when I started coming into the fandom. He's never been too sappy or hardnosed over things (even though I know there's some stuff we won't and don't agree on), and he's been supportive when my life took some nosedives over the past year or so.

Say what you want about him, but I won't abandon Doug or Kit, even if I'm proved wrong... Life is too damned short not to guard your friendships.

And that's all I have to say about this... for now.

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Sunday, August 12, 2001 06:33:05 PM
IP: 6532163hfc03.tampabay.rr.com

I did absolutely nothing today and I'm proud of it. I woke up at about ten, sat around and did nothing till twelve and just watched Battlefield Earth, Clerks, and Space Cowboys just for the hell of it. (I hadn't seen Space Cowboys yet, but it was okay)
I have one more week of work and then I prep to return for another round at UNT. That is the plan.

Josh- you see you are not the only one who can ramble about things. I am the king of rambling. As for being like you, well, mentally it may already be too late. (insert evil grin here)

Aaron and Mara- my friends, I give you congrats and hope that there is only smooth sailing or calm winds beneath your wings, which ever you fancy (tough choice)and that only good lies in your future. Aaron who I consider as close as a brother in so many ways. You understand things without words. The Texas heat, long hair despite how people feel about it. I give you this advice, hold off on those joint tax returns, from what I hear is theat they're a pain in the a$$ Your heart speaks louder than a piece of paper and you must invite us all. Hoc Signo Vinces

I'm not going to touch the whole Doug/Kit thing.

Heaven/Hell thing. I like to believe that if you just try to be a good person in general that you can stay on Big G's good side if not, well, Hell can't be any hotter than Texas and I'm already surrounded by lawyers and used car salesmen.
So I'm good to go. Besides Josh will keep me company ];)

Warp the Bald- Just out of curiosity if I were to send you a money order would you then have to go somewhere specific to cash it because it would be in US dollars? A bank maybe?
To up coming seniors
"For yers ago I couldn't even spell gradgiate, now I are one"
-Class of 98's Senior shirts Oak Ridge High-

(I was 99 for your information :))

Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Sunday, August 12, 2001 05:22:44 PM
IP: ac85eec7.ipt.aol.com

I've decided to ignore the current CR controversy since Fleur stated my feelings on it much better than I ever could.

I saw the pilot of "Samurai Jack", and I didn't really like it the first time. I watched it a second time and I LOVE IT! I'm actually currently watching it yet a third time.

The concept is interesting, and it reminds me a bit of "Gargoyles". Jack being pushed forward in time to the future similar to the clan awakening in 1994, and the future being ruled by Aku, similar to "Future Tense". Took me a while to get use to the art style, but I rather like it.

And Aku is the man! He's my new special friend ;)
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Sunday, August 12, 2001 05:22:17 PM
IP: dialin-122-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

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Anonymous
Sunday, August 12, 2001 05:01:20 PM
IP: ac85eec7.ipt.aol.com

Just a quick post to clarify something.

Lain: Ah, this looks so familiar. As usual, my point was missed. It happens so often that I think people *deliberately* miss my point. Anyway, SJ and I were NOT "bashing" Doug, and we're sure as hell not being selfish. We were simply saying that we're sick of the bullshit. We just don't want to deal with any more of Doug's lies, and we're tired of Doug acting like he's being victimized by "mean ol' Pistoff and SJ." If you and some other people in here want to just let the lies and manipulation slide, that's your business--and it's pretty sad that the first thing people want to do when something unpleasant happens is just sweep it under the carpet instead of actually dealing with it and maybe preventing something worse from happening later. But don't expect me to just let it go. Doug pretended to be my friend and stabbed me in the back too many times. Sorry if that attitude offends your pacifist sensibilities, but that's just the way it is. And if I sound a bit annoyed here, it's because I react badly when somebody wants to let the BS go unchecked but try to shut me and SJ up when we try to inject a little truth into this place. This is exactly what I meant when I said that I can't stomach this place most of the time.

That's pretty much all I have to say about this. Anything else I could think of, SJ already said. There's no point in repeating it.

And on the lighter side, just one other thing, Lain. Computer keyboards typically have these two buttons called the "shift" keys. People use them to type CAPITAL LETTERS. I don't know, maybe your keyboard doesn't have them. I'm not *incredibly* anal about these things, but reading posts that have no capital letters or proper punctuation gives me a stabbing pain right behind my eyes.

:P
Pistoff - [pistoff@uci.net]
Sunday, August 12, 2001 02:20:31 PM
IP: ip-216-104-69-236.uci.net

Howdy, all!!! Long time no see! :)

Anyway, I'm getting ready to move back up to the ol' university this week for my sophomore year, and I finally got my first chance ALL summer to come back in here and post real quick! :) I should be getting back to regular posting sometime later this week or next week, after I get settled from moving. :)

Gathering 2001> I just wanted to thank everyone that I got to meet at the Gathering this past June! It was very interesting to see what y'all looked like in person, and I really appreciate the time I got to spend with some of you (Jannie, you are AWESOME! It was great to talk to ya. Love the pictures you got of me 'n Don, too.) :) The activites and panels and stuff throughout the weekend were just fantastic, and I really learned a lot of cool things and saw some neat people. I was a con virgin before this one, and I ended up having a great time. And I had an *especially* good time hanging out with the love of my life in Hollywood for a week of heaven...thanks for spending the time with crazy ol' me, Coyote m'dear. ;)

Thanks also to Dreamie, SJ, Stephen, and the other people I'm forgetting who said that Coyote and myself were "cute" at the Gathering. **blushes** Thanks. ;)

Speaking of Coyote (or Sappy, as you know him, Josh... **giggles**) ...**sighs** I'm having MAJOR Coyote-withdrawl...see, he's moving right now, and I haven't heard from him in a while...so I'm basically going withdrawl-crazy. ;)

FS and LM> Hey, thanks so much for the wonderful GMC 2004 t-shirts you two made for the Gathering this year!!! They came out awesome, and I really liked the designs (especially mine). ;) Thanks, guys! :)

So how've the rest of y'all been? I'm still tryin' to get all the way caught up on the CR that I've missed this summer, but I'm still only part way through...I'm workin' on it, though. :)

BUT I'M BACK!!! ;) And Coyote, if you're out there...I miss you dearly. ;) **flops down in a chair, lighting a candle on the neaby Tea Table of Peace and staring into the flame**
Ravyn Maza
Sunday, August 12, 2001 01:46:35 PM
IP: svm-ts4-22.c2i2.com

Okay, I would have commented on all of this before, but the severe thunderstorms here in the D.C. area have been playing havoc with the power and phone lines. It's not that often that we get real flooding here, so when stuff like that happens, all hell breaks lose, cause we just can't handle it. (This is, of course, the area of the country unique in that, when it's snowing outside, people will literally abandon their automobiles IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. When I say that, I mean, there might only be 3 inches of snow on the ground, and you'll have idiots leaving their cars in the middle of Rt. 66 or I-95. When it comes to harsh weather, we're pussies. No offense to the cats in the room.)

But onto the meat of the post.

An open letter to Doug, or Kit, or Miller, or whatever alias you've decided to choose this time: What, is this a surprise to you? That at least a couple people are upset with you for showing your face (however many of them really exist) again? Shall we run down the scorecard?

1. For YEARS, you pose as two distinct individuals, "Doug" and "Kit", with the backstory that they are fiancées. Of course, their posts are almost exactly alike in every way possible, except for text color and a few male references with "Doug" and a few female references with "Kit".

2. You tell numerous, numerous, NUMEROUS false, make believe stories about your lives, such as the "Wacky Adventures of Kit, the Teenage Biker Chick", or yes, my favorite, the constantly mentioned "Gus, the Evil Stalker Saga" (BTW, I don't think I ever told you how funny that one was. It really was. I mean, honestly, kudos. When you got to the point where to said your friend shot arrows at Gus and his miscreant friends? I was rolling. I was like Curly in the 3 Stooges, when he would lay on his side and spin in a circle.). These stories are often far to fantastical to be true, let alone logical, and of course the stories keep changing every time you would tell them, with new details added that contradict past information, and….well, you get the point. Any attempt to validate these stories is rendered null through your own devices (for example, the resolution to the Gus saga is that, conveniently, Gus dies in prison). These stories serve no purpose other than to make Doug or Kit, or whomever is the individual behind those facades, look interesting.

3. When we question you about all of this, you deny it, and when we tell you we see through the bullshit, you just disappear. Oh wait, you do pop up long enough to give us the middle finger.

Fellow CR dwellers, you do remember the ol' one-finger salute that Doug / Kit gave, don't you?

4. You show up here, now, acting as if nothing has happened, and it's business as usual. Sorry, that's not going to be the case. Not with me at least.

And so you tell me I should believe what I want. I do. You say you may not read my posts, because I don't have anything nice to say to you in them. Guess what? I don't, and won't in the future.

What I'm really pissed off about is that, once, you made me look like the biggest asshole on the planet for questioning you, when in fact your entire existence is built on lies. I had people like Crzy posting how I should have been happy cause I made you leave (I wasn't then, but I was a few weeks later when you did) (And Crzy, please, if you're reading this: let's have a mutually agreed upon moratorium on shaming the other for running off the loonies. I didn't talk smack about you and your friends when you made Paul Allen Nathans kiss off, did I? I don't think I did....probably cause I was secretly proud of you at that moment...no more Xenogears quotes, thank God...). You say you don't need proof of someone's existence to be friends with them? On the internet, that might be acceptable, but all of the people that I'm friends with on the net don't have huge, gaping holes, like you do, when it comes to proof that they exist. No one I've known on the internet, outside of you, have ever even come close to creating an environment through their lies and fallacies where I would question their existence.

So basically, this is how I feel about you, and this ain't gonna change:

I don't like you. I don't believe that "Kit" exists, or that "Doug" exists (you may really be Doug, but whomever you really are, there's just one of you), I don't think these "Black Ravens" friends of yours exist (and I doubt they ever did), I don't believe the lies you've told about your life, I basically question every single aspect of your existence. You are a compulsive liar, and worse, I think you may have some very deep, severe mental problems. You're a joke, but the punchline isn't funny, it's quite disturbing. You're sick, Doug. You want attention so badly that you came crawling back here. I'm surprised you lasted away as long as you did. You can't give it up. Is your life that sad, that you have to play make believe here? Even so, I must reiterate what Fleur so wisely said: YOU ARE NOT THE VICTIM. Your "detractors", as you put them, are not being mean to you for the sake of being mean. They're being unpleasant to you because you lie, and when you won't stop lying or offer an explanation for your dishonesty, you respond with the wonderfully civilized middle finger. Or you act as if you're the victim in some grand conspiracy to make you feel or look bad. You're a sad, pathetic little man (I believe you're male, but then again, who knows?) who does all of this just to get attention for yourself. You wanted the attention so badly that you lied. Or you just took the easy route, and sucked up and kissed everyone's ass. Remember that debate? That's why I was pissed at you initially, remember? Cause you couldn't stand for one person to dislike you, so you agreed with all of them. And so you lied, made up stories about your life, so that everyone would think you were fascinating or cool, or whatever.

I basically think you're one of the poorest excuses for a human being I've ever seen.

I am too, to be fair, but unlike you, I'm not delusional enough to claim otherwise.

Most people that don't like me? Doesn't really bother me. I figure I probably deserve it. I can take it if someone like Crzy doesn't like me, because I've given as much as I've received. But my response to you, if you don't like me, if "wah, wah, you aren't my friend", is simply this: F!CK YOU.

That last bit was censored out of respect for lain. Sorry, lain, for this post. It's my one big reaction to the sickness that is Doug, or Kit, or take your pick. I'm afraid that I won't be getting along with him / her / it / they in the future, but I cause promise that I'll try to keep the vitriol to an acceptable level. I won't be making huge, inflammatory posts like this for "him" again, cause I've wasted far too much time on this as it is. But for this post, at least, you'll have to put on your sad face. :(

Oh, and Doug: Thanks for the laughs, again. I found it incredibly amusing that you're making disparaging remarks towards Aaron and Mara's relationship considering you're just some loser that has an imaginary girlfriend in his head.

Mara: I gotta give my congrats too. Though you can probably imagine I'm terrible with the mushy stuff. :) And thank you for the explanation about your relationship. It was probably unnecessary to many in the CR, but I didn't know the specifics. Like I said with the Heather / GB situation, I think it's the lowest to get involved with someone while you're already in an relationship, and I'm glad to see that wasn't the case with you. Even if it was, I mean, it wouldn't have been my business, but I think you know what I mean. If my logic isn't too muddy. ;)
And, of course, for purely selfish reasons, I miss Aaron too, because I can only imagine what his reaction would be to you-know-who popping back up. ;)

Now, all we need is for Kaioto to return to tell me what a horrible person I am for saying such awful things about Doug, and my day will be complete. I will have returned full circle.

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Sunday, August 12, 2001 12:48:22 PM
IP: 66-44-70-108.s108.tnt9.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

WOW! The posters are coming out of the woodwork!

Welcome back Mara, Fleur and Kit!
Fire Storm
Sunday, August 12, 2001 12:31:19 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Warpmind > it's AvMists, not Sabledrake, and while it's not an entire brown-paper-wrapper issue, this one will include the Titania's Secret Catalog ; )

Josh > yes, I will continue to post reminders as the deadline nears.

Mara & Aaron > congratulations!

Kit > I'll be watching for it, thanks!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:56:15 AM
IP: 16-187.075.popsite.net

Well the good news is I got over my quesyness. The trick is to take the pill after I finished eating.

Friday night it was hot, and the Air Conditioner broke and we had to wait until the morning to have it repaired. So most of us had to sleep on top of the covers. except for my brother. He had a large Fan

Yesterday it was thundering((What else is new.)) but as I was drying my hands in the bathroom there was this flash that nearly blinded me followe by a large thunderclap that had me nearly jump out of my skin and caused half the dogs to REALLY panic. we didn't loose power, but the cable went out.

Aaron and Mara, Congrats. It sounded like you guys had a fantastic trip.

Warning:::Incoming Rant Warning::::

"Kit" or Doug or maybe I should just downright call you Sybil like SJ referedto you once. First of all I kind of understand your attack on Pissy but your attack on Mara was unwarranted. She explained the break up. She is not a cold person she s very likeable. I met her and we got along fine, yes she is my friend. I also know she exists. You I don't belive There was evidense pointing out how you don't exist, thanks to Aaron and JEB. I'm pretty much sure when I reported to the CR about how one of my RPG friends was killed by a drunk driver, then How that person dosen't exist. I felt that horrible feeling again when it was proved that your made up girlfriend is not real. Kit is real? Prove it! Lets see both of you make an appearance at Gathering 2002. If not then we know the truth. Sybil I understand if you wnet through a traumtaic experaince. I did too, but guess what I recently got help. i'm making appointments for Therapy and am on medication.
End Rant****************************************************

Sorry fols I needed to have my say. Hey I think the pills are working, I never had been this nasty before.

Some unsettling news. Drew Carey has been admited to the hospital for a heart attack. He complained about Chest pains and was proptly rushed to the ER. He is now recuperating.::Croses fingers for a speedy recovery.::

Josh::The surgery is for a prostectamy you silly goose. As for me eating choclate, nahhh, I'd rather be eating something with caramel, and me B!tching? That was complaining if you want to se me Beyatching look above at my post to Sybil.

Jannie and Kathy>>>Hope your backs get better soon.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl
Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:12:02 AM
IP: proxy.iad2.netsetter.com

Oh, finally I manage to get into here. My modem yesterday night decided to take a short vacation (takes out his Beretta AR 70/90 and fires a burst of 5,56 JHP to Mr. DC) and I managed to get it restart only a few minutes ago. Hoping it doesn't ababdon me again as I'm writing...

Dreamie:> Sorry for leaving that way yesterday night. As I said above, my modem expired (litterally in the middle of a phrase - I found myself disconnected almost without realizing it) and at 2 AM I wasn't smart enough to make it restart...I apologize, really.

Dreamie (again), Winterwolf, Nimhgold:> Free time for a chat tonight?

Josh:> <<<<anyone has his own little lies>>: I have no idea what you mean ;-) >> Neither me...;)

Kit:> First, an apology: I forgot to congratulate you for your graduation yesterday. Just mind, it was supposed to be the first thing I was writing, and it slipped out of my mind. I think there's a lesson in this: take regular sleep!
Now for your thanks, they were not needed. :). As I think I said before, I just say what I feel. Of course I want to be kept up to date on your wedding, if you like. And, needless to say, I wait eagerly for your address (is the old one no more active?)...I have some pictures to send you too!
I had never heard about Doug's trial at the camp...anyway, I know how sometimes teasings and jokes can change any experience in a Hell (if I am speaking for experience? I'd like to say no...) so it is surprising that Doug could keep control for so long. For sure, his reaction was totally understandable - once you loose control, all the rage you repressed before comes out, and time is needed before it to get exhausted. Some months ago, there was a similar problem in my barracks - just some guys harassing and teasing a friend of mine, cause he's little and shy and so on. Didn't last so long, luckily - those cowards were ready to harass someone they knew wasn't able to react, but they had no desire to face me, so they stopped completely when I told them to do...
Enough for now, my friend. Remember: you and Doug will alway have my support, anytime!

Fleur:> Long time no see, isn't it? About the G8 summit in Genova, yes it was a very insane thing...luckily, I had been placed in a zone that turned on to be one of the most tranquil, and we had no problem in controlling the situation...the only consequences for me actually could be on the legal side.

See later everyone!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:00:40 AM
IP: h217-168-118.mi2.albacom.net

*leans in*
That's okay, Fleur. I'll do it for you.
Aaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!
*Runs over and GLOMMs Aaron and Mara*
Lynati Kshudra
Sunday, August 12, 2001 09:38:24 AM
IP: 207.226.219.84

Quick bit.

Mara: You're right, I don't like you cause you don't like me nor believe in my existence. But that's not all of it, I also don't like you because you're a self-proclaimed cold woman and you seem ok with it. I've never liked people like that. <shrugs> Oh well, you be however you want, you believe whatever you want, I don't care. And btw, congrats on Aaron. I'm glad you two have found love and enjoy it. I can be happy for people on that basis, even if they're not and never have been my friends.

Fleur: Thanks for saying for me a lot I could have said and should have realized, and making me see the true scope of my challenge. I'm ready to start trying to meet it, by whatever means necessary. I just hope I'm up to the task.

Warpmind: Now that is a great punishment idea. :)
Kit
Sunday, August 12, 2001 09:37:02 AM
IP: 198.211.187.71

Fleur- "WE DO NOT SOUND LIKE THE CROCADILE MAN! REALLY!" Would that be Crocadile Dundee, Paul Hogan, or Crocadile Hunter, Steve Irwin? Nice to see you around here again in any event.

Aaron and Mara- My congrats go to ya'll as well, but then, you both already knew that. 8P

Robby
Sunday, August 12, 2001 09:32:22 AM
IP: aca420e1.ipt.aol.com

*sneaks back in*
After reading Mara's post, I'd like to add I want the love her and Aaron have too (and I don't doubt their existence either). *Has to fight _really_ hard not to go 'Awwww' and get all mushy*

And Warpmind> That public spanking idea literally had me laughing my @ss off. Now THAT is justice!!! :D
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Sunday, August 12, 2001 08:01:34 AM
IP: proxy3.mel.pacific.net.au

MARA & AARON> I would like to be the first person to congradulate you.
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Sunday, August 12, 2001 07:57:49 AM
IP: dialin-73-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Ahem. I would like to make an announcement.
All those on their summer vacations: FOR THE LOVE OF WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE IN, ENJOY IT!!!!.
Sorry for the severely irregular post, but between uni and work and running out of internet MB, I’ve been back in lurk mode again (and I promised myself I would get back here regularly. Bad me). Do you know that a fiscal year is not a badly-spelt ear infection? Amazing what you can learn when you’re playing company accountant. And I mean _playing_. I left maths with a huge sigh of relief when I left High School. Last time I played accountant, I nearly killed the computer system. You’d think the boss-eroonie would have learnt by now, hey?
And wow, I find myself in the same insanity as when I left. I’ll get to that later. Sorry for the generalness of the posts, I’ve just been skimming these last few weeks (although I couldn’t stop myself from devouring every scrap of the Gathering stuff like a hungry vulture - living vocariously thru others, works for me!).

Dark Prince Of Vinyl> (sorry Josh, couldn’t resist :)) You know, I can’t actually tell the difference between an American accent and a Canadian one. ;) And I’m not going to say any more, simply because I can only imagine what you’d say about an Australian accent. (WE DO NOT SOUND LIKE THE CROCODILE MAN!!! REALLY!!)

Hell debate> I’ve only skimmed this, so ten dollars says I’ll embarrass myself, but I’m in the mood to add two cents. :) Despite the fact I’m a scientist-in-training, I actually believe in a higher power. The more I learn, the stronger this belief becomes. The world is so incredibly complex it can make your brain melt, but at the same time it’s so simple that you could break it down into a maths equation, but that doesn’t mean you could start it. Something had to be there first.
But, and it’s a big but, while I admire faith, I don’t have a lot of affection for religion. Religion is man trying to bind something a billion times greater than they are. You cannot put the words of what created this universe into a book. If it has a consciousness, its thoughts could never be stored on pieces of paper. You might, however, be able to catch a bit of the closest humanity could get to it. But sadly, a lot of people read the book, and go to church, and they sit back and smugly declare they’re going to heaven, but they never let it touch them. If more people _acted_ like Jesus did, instead of memorising his words, this world would be a much better place. True worship of God doesn’t come from your mouth, it comes from your hands. Please don’t think I’m stomping on anybody’s beliefs, I’m just saying my point of view in the same way everybody else is. And because, judging by the posts I’ve read on this subject, everybody here worships with their hands. (Reading over this, I just _know_ Josh isn't going to be able to resist that last sentence. ;)) What I'm trying to say with too many words is that I don't believe true faith can only be found in one religion. Heaven is what each person believes it is, and with whatever God you believe is in there. I think there’s only one God, and it’s every God. The child cannot define the parent. Hell, to me, is quite simple: It’s having no God to greet you when you stop breathing.

Robby> Happy very late birthday, and I hope things get better for you.

Shadowrider> Was that G8 stuff you were involved in the same as the S11 and M1 etc., those protests against the world summits? If it was, I’m glad you got through them okay, since every single one I’ve seen footage of were insane. *shudders*

Hello to new peoples. *points at Dubble* I remember you! You were at the online Gathering! Heyas! :)

Warpmind> >Sex Magick: the 37 Unspeakable Acts, including a compendium of several Speakable ones, and six more that everyone involved would rather just forget about"< *hehe* That’s a phrase that’s good at getting a person’s attention. Now, if only I could find a way to use that in everyday conversation. Actually, knowing my friends, I _could_ use that in everyday conversation without much effort at all. :) More seriously, I hope things work out with those allegations. At least they’re so obviously unfounded that any witch hunt (or Warp-hunt ;)) would last about two seconds.

Happy (late) birthdays to GB and Jaden and Xanathar and… Whoa, was everybody born in August? If the calendar thing gets off the ground, it’s going to need a whole new page for this month!! :)

Lynati> I see another person has fallen victim to the addiction that is Sluggy freelance. This people, is why I used up 235MB of a monthly 250MB in the middle of the month. I *gasp* actually had to go without the internet for whole days at a time!! Oh, the humanity!!

SJ> As usual, you’ve had me in hysterics. I don’t know what I liked better: the Demona vs Joker stuff, the Greg’s butt joke (What, this place wasn’t getting hot enough for ya, so you decided to press some buttons marked ‘nuclear’? ;) ), or that classic phrase: Love Triangle Electric Boogaloo of Death (yes, DEATH!)

Crzy> I think the CR’s already got front-row tickets to each and every battle between you and SJ. :)

Lady Mystic> *reads the looong list of Stuff Lady Mystic Does* And you still have time to look after the CR? *jaw drop* Daaammmnnn.

Aunty Christine> Congratulations!

Spike> A torch-bearer? That’s fantastic!!

Looks at past three posts: You know, I feel like such an underachiever.

Aris> >Ack! I…can’t…. stay…. away’< Don’t try to resist the power of the CR…

Kathy and Jaden> Back problems: Owch. Hope it gets better.

Now, this is going to be the closest I’ll ever get to flaming. I won’t deny anybody the chance to reply to what I say, but after this post, the only answer from me is going to be by email. Part of the reason I went away for so long is because I got tired of the arguing.
I also don’t want people to see this as an ‘I’m enraged and attacking’ thing. Picture me sitting on a chair, behind some big desk, placing the cards on the table and calmly stating how it is for me.
Kit/Doug/Whoeveryouare, I don’t think you understand the full magnitude of what you’ve done.
It’s quite common for people to use fake names on the internet. I do myself, for the very same reason as you (The only people in this entire _country_ with my surname are my immediate family). And I accept that people exaggerate/lie to make themselves feel like better human beings. Personally, I think it’s the behaviour of somebody either extremely immature or extremely insecure, but hey, whatever makes you hot.
But here’s the sticker – You lied repeatedly, over an extremely long period of time, to the point where people seriously doubt your _existence_. You can lie to the point where people don’t believe your stories, but to the point where they don’t believe you’re real?! That’s so huge, it’s almost incomprehensible. It’s not something that can just be glossed over. It’s not something easily forgotten.
I want Josh’s friends and relatives (or, at least, their homes;)), but even before the three-million gathering photos, I never doubted his existence. I _don’t_ want Jan’s problems with her daughter, and I’d kill for the kind of love Fire Storm and Lady Mystic share, and there’s a billion other factors of all the other people here that I want or don’t want, but I don’t doubt their existence either. Why? Because they’re _real_. Because they come to the Comment Room as real people, with faults, and boring moments, and fears and doubts and vulnerabilities. They come here as friends, asking only that the rest of us like them, or failing that, accept them.
You didn’t. You wanted more than people’s acceptance or like. You wanted our _admiration_. You wanted us to say how great you were, how interesting you were. You couldn’t get it for yourself, so you lied. That’s not friendship. That’s not what this place is about. You want fans, get a marketing department.
This place is like nowhere else on Earth. When RL takes a sharp dive, we come in here and vent. We say things to each other that we wouldn’t even say to our closest friends and family. I don’t think you realise how precious that is.
You are not the victim here, honey, so take off that mantle. You lied, you got caught, and now you’ve got to be a big boy/girl and take responsibility for it. Let me repeat it: YOU ARE NOT THE VICTIM. You are not the poor, beleaguered innocent facing the Nazis. You’re just getting a taste of Karma. Don’t complain to me if it’s bitter – that’s all your own doing. You only have yourself to blame.
I find it especially ironic that when your web of lies falls apart, you start claiming that the ‘truth is your shield’. You do realise, don’t you, that that is a shield that’s only as strong as the _truthfulness_ of the person holding it? And that now you’re going to have to be utterly honest? The second you’re not, that ‘truth’ you’re cowering behind will be about as strong as tissue paper.
I can’t stop you for coming here anymore than you can stop me. I don’t want to either. I value few things more than freedom. And, despite your severe problems with honesty, you’ve made friends here, and I value friendship highest of all.
But I don’t have to believe anything you say. I can doubt every word in your posts. I won't give you the admiration you craved so much, and I don’t even have to like you. Trust is very easily broken, and once it has been, you’ve got to work damn hard to fix it. Even when you do, the cracks show. And I think it’s fairly obvious that my trust in you has been reduced to roughly its component particles. You want my trust, my friendship, my love? Roll up your sleeves, baby, you’re going to have to work for it. Hard. Can you handle that?

Damn, I really wish I could have ended this post on a better note. Like I said, it’s not flaming (you’d know if I were flaming ;)), and I don’t want anybody else to feel uncomfortable about what I’ve said. It's just me drawing my little line in the sand.

TTFN!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Sunday, August 12, 2001 07:53:46 AM
IP: proxy3.mel.pacific.net.au

This is a love story, babe.

I miss Aaron already, so terribly.We had a wonderful eight days together, spent mostly in a small, chilled (during what New Yorker's call a "heatwave" and wha Aaron calls "springtime") studio apartment within the thick walls of the Hotel Chelsea- where Dylan Thomas died after 18 vodkas.. "I think that's a new record" He had said. Hotel Chelsea- homeplace to more artists, writers and musicians that I could ever do justice listing here. This place, for a scant week and a day, is our first apartment. I managed to sleep there for two nights, despite the houserule my mother set up about getting home to sleep. (Idiocy. The streets aren't safe) The other six days I'm up early to sneak back there before Aaron wakes up. We went out, ofcourse- to Madison Square Garden on multiple times- even getting to see the Liberty play. We visited my home, he met my family, friends, and cats. All of them seemed quick to fall under that charm he doesn't seem to see within himself. We watched movies at both my house and my grandfather's house. We ate badly, then well, then not at all. We ate PizzaHut, Olive Garden, and at one of those all night trucker's diners- full of meat and fat and salt. We saw Hedwig and the Angry Inch twice- I now own my own copy of it's soundtrack- I'm listening to it right now. I'm contemplating getting a tattoo that has to do with it- We're the Children of the Moon. We exchanged vows of love at the shore of Rockaway beach, instead on infront of the Happy smiling whale sculpture like he wanted. My friend Robin (ULM) performed the cermony- we're married in our hearts.. if not in our tax forms. Our vows were a combination of Braveheart, Gargoyles and... to his grimace, NGE. "I was born to meet you...." We went to one of Robin's gigs, and ate brunch. We stayed up late watching Golden Girls.... we stayed up watching Waterboy... we slept in til one in the afternoon that night I stayed over in our apartment. We cried when we had to part.. then laughed and complained and cried and kissed and hugged goodbye.

I never look back when I leave... but this time, I couldn't help it. I caught sight of his ponytail when I turned back...

That was my vacation, but how are you?

Doug... er, um... "Kit" :::) <turns on sarcasm> Thanks for reminding me of that unpleasant thing Aaron and Mara did to you a while back. I didn't pay attention to it while it was happening, I forgot it quickly when it did, but now... <looks toward the cold couple> Can't say I like you two any more after the reminder. Shame on you both. <red-eyed glare>

Shame? For what? I was very forthcoming about my feelings to Coyote-if he chose to be delusional when I was trying to very gently break up with him; and made me have to be bluntly honest for him to get the picture I wasn't coming back, well he made his own fate, ne? We had even allowed for him to take whatever time he needed- not once for a good eight to nine months of Aaron's and my relationship was boasted or shoved in his face. That's why you forgot it ever happened.Coyote seems to think that Aaron and I were having some sort of affair during the time I was dating Coyote. That's silly- all Aaron and I had ever shared prior to g2k was the Chibi Drama. We hadn't even started a real romantic relationship til after that particular Gathering had ended and I had already broken up with Coyote. Come to think of it- Coyote, hadn't you been keeping a candle burning for Ravyn during that six months we were together? I can re-check the CR archive if you like. Shall I feel betrayed? Nope. Doug,You just don't like me know because I still don't believe "Kit" exists.

Btw, the abuse Doug's gone through probably is very similiar to what most of us have gone through.I know I've gotten more than my share of bullshit when I was younger.... but it makes you what you are- good or bad.

Well, let me catch up in the room more before posting again.

Ciao babies.

Aaron,I love you.

Mara Cordova
Sunday, August 12, 2001 07:45:18 AM
IP: acaabc93.ipt.aol.com

Warpmind: 
::FS throws a lightning bolt at Warpmind::
Ye have broken the unwritten word of DOG!
Ye shall not utter bad things about thine trackball! ;)
Fire Storm
Sunday, August 12, 2001 06:36:38 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

*Warpmind enters, apparently distraught.*
It's horrible... disgraceful... shameless... ghastly... Yesterday, my parents came home from vacation, and they had promised to bring a new mouse for the computer (the old one was getting worn out). It's unpacked, installed and working... and it's a TRACKBALL! My Diablo 2 accuracy has been shot to pieces! My double-clicking speed is cranked WAY down, and my aim is unsteady... I honestly, thoroughly and utterly HATE TRACKBALLS!!! :(
Oh, well, on to post...

Christine: Sabledrake deadline... um, isn't this going to be the "brown-paper issue"? };)

Josh: For fun, I can understand. For profit? Naaaah...

Oh, and some excellent news regarding the rumor bit... no, they haven't caught the real perp, no they haven't tracked down the source of the rumors yet, BUT... apparently, there's an old law from sometime in the early 19th century that, while hardly ever used nowadays, was never made void... this law states that, in cases of undue slandering, when the purpose is solely to ruin someone's reputation and/or social standing... the victim may choose the punishment within certain limits... the specific paragraph goes on to describe suitable fines et cetera... but I'm WAY more insidious than that... I'm thinking... self-inflicted public spanking, all the while yelling "I've been a Naughty Boy" should do the trick... }:) Vengeful? Me? Nooooo, never! };)

Well, that's about it. Cheerio.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, August 12, 2001 06:10:31 AM
IP: mp-217-239-149.daxnet.no

Top Something!! It feels so good to say that again. :)

Josh: Missed a bit of your reply last time, sorry. Yes, I did mean one of the environmental treaties when I was talking about Bush. The greenhouse/global warming one, to be exact. I think America should at least recognize that such a process exists and is going on right now, if not help the rest of the world do something about it. We also need to get along better with the UN, Bush is very much to blame for our current state of affairs with them I believe. In today's world, IMO, being isolationist is one of the biggest mistakes a country can make. I wish Bush would see that. :( Good point on the gas, I hadn't thought of that. :) <books> Not 1.50 each, 1.50 for all eight of them. That is major highway robbery. Sorry for getting you mad about the computer, I was just trying to be nice. <relationships gift> A very good gift, that. :) <D&D-inspired murdering spree> I must have missed 60 Minutes on that one, can you please fill me in? <hitting the sack> Just an expression, I'm surprised you don't know it. It means going to sleep. :) <Windows XP> No plans to upgrade to it on my part. Not unless our next computer forces it on us. Like the one I'm using now did Windows 2000. <Arab terrorist Doug Elder> You're killing me. Did you come up with that one yourself or get some wino downstairs to help you with it? Don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question. :) (another cyber-cookie is offered to anyone who guesses the source of the quote.) <friend from Greece> Congrats on having them back. Hope y'all enjoy seeing each other again. You know, Doug had a friend who went to Greece for a few of her college years too. Ellie Ranney, his big grade-school crush. He smiles whenever he talks about her, and I grin too. :)

Jannie: You said "A Christian loving an athiest... yes that's possible... but not in the sense of being IN love." I took that to mean you're of the opinion that two people of widely divergent religious beliefs can't be in love (I consider atheism a religious belief even though it doesn't really fit the Webster's definition), maybe I misunderstood your point. I'm sorry. As for your point about conversion, yes, I did confirm it. I believe I also said my parents both gave up trying to convert each other a long time ago. As long as I have known them (over twenty-two years), they have been in love and comfortable and secure in that love without needing to try and convert each other or prove to each other that one of them is more right about the world and the way things are than the other. There are no conversion issues in their relationship at all. Do you understand what I was saying now? <rent trouble> I don't know what to tell you on this, I've never been in a similar situation. Doug and I always paid our rent when we had the apartment, no questions asked. Our AC never broke down though, and if the summer's been as hot in Missouri as it has here... I'd try to organize the other tenants in the building into some kind of protest against this AC problem and demand that either the landlord get it fixed and quickly or nobody pays the rent. It's drastic, but I think it just might work. If you decide to try it, good luck. <religion> I too don't go for all those nutty religious rules you mentioned, like you I try to live a good life and include God in it. But I also choose to believe in some aspects of God, Christianity, etc. in the way I wish, and that's what drives a lot of people crazy. It's why I mostly stay out of religious debates. :)

**MANY UNPLEASANT WORDS AHEAD**
Pistoff: I can't believe I'm even speaking to you, but I feel I have to say something. Like my other detractors, you can acknowledge it or believe it as you wish, I don't care. The fact is this- I am not Doug. I never have been. I'm really close to him, true, but I've never felt so close that I actually am him. I think I'd know it if I did. Again, you can believe this or not, but I know it is true. The truth is my shield, and your vile insults will not penetrate it. Let me address a few more issues you raised:
<you're disturbed> You're not the first one to call Doug or me that. Probably won't be the last. Since being disturbed is a matter of opinion, I'll give your claim the same shrift I have all the others.
<Coming back in here and not even acknowledging what has been said about you until SJ confronted you directly. Not even offering an explanation to the people you lied to constantly over the years.> I wasn't acting as if it never happened, it was on my mind. Didn't you note the phrase "I could say a lot more?" I just didn't want to be the one who brought things up about all that happened, I had hoped the CR had gotten over it and moved on. I'm glad to see many people in here have done this, I have too. It saddens me to see some dwellers haven't done it, but there's not much I can do about that, is there? As for your accusation towards Doug and me of lying to everyone in here constantly over the years- I'll admit we did lie about a few minor things, we did exgaggerate a lot too. We wanted attention, I'm sure some people in here can understand that. Now, believe it or not, we have given up that quest. I don't want attention from the CR anymore, I just want to be friends with the people in here who want to be friends with me. I've realized I don't need everyone's complete constant attention for that. I'm sure Doug feels the same way. Yes, we did lie, but we did not lie in such a big way as you and other people think we did. I exist, the Black Ravens exist, Doug is a Wal-Mart security guard, I am an emotionally scarred infertile ex-biker. We own a house and a truck, and we plan to get married and be together forever. It is all true. Believe it or not as you will. Your opinion does not matter to us. The truth is our shield. As for an explanation, I just gave one. I could get into specifics if anyone wants me to, but I request specific questions from such people as to what they want to know. It is my right to not volunteer any information unless directly asked, and I shall exercise this right.
<unbelievably awesome sexual adventures> I'm thrilled you consider my sex life that way. It doesn't really seem that way to me. <shrugs> Oh well, to each their own opinion. Really, I'm surprised so many people in here were so shocked I was willing to talk about such things. I'm infertile, any text on the psychological implications of that will tell you I should also have a propensity towards nymphomania. And Doug? Well, he's a guy who doesn't care to hide his true opinions a lot of the time. I don't know what else to say. Except this- We're sorry. We should have realized a lot of people in here would not consider such subjects appropriate. I especially am sorry, I'm the one who posted most of the words we said on such subjects and encouraged Doug to post the rest. I have no intention of ever posting such subjects again. Sorry, Pistoff, you'll have to find some other outlet for your jealousy than lashing out at me about it. <grin>
<Miller> Doug and I don't associate with Tom anymore, we're sorry to say. He blew things out of the water for us in here, we didn't appreciate that. It ruined our friendship. But that was no one's fault but his. So, no, I won't be posting as him. I never did before either, nor did Doug. Miller posted for himself, and is completely to blame for everything he said in here.
<stories> You want to hear more stories? Ok! <pauses to think of a good one, then stops as she realizes her sarcasm detector is going ballistic> Wait, never mind. I will tell you this, though. Like SJ, you need to get your facts straight. We never said Shauna could snatch arrows out of midair. She's tried, but she's failed and she's real glad the arrows she tried with were blunt-tipped. She's an excellent archer, a stupendous accountant, and a great girlfriend even if she does nag others more than can be stood or believed a lot of the time. But catch arrows out of midair? She can't do that.
<the pounding incident> Doug didn't pound the guy's head into the pole for seven straight minutes. He's told me about that situation a million times, I heard about it too since I was at the same camp (Camp Longhorn, Texas) in the Unicorn cabin the July session of that same year. Doug was there in the June session. No, I've never mentioned this before, I didn't think I needed to. I don't know how long Doug was bashing the guy. He doesn't either. It was one of those rage-taking-over-everything-else-pushed-aside kind of fights. What happened, to recount it again, was that all session Doug was teased and bugged by all but one of the other six boys in his cabin. About his weight, his bookishness, his speech problem, his modesty, his lack of skill at many of the camp activities, other things too. The cabin counselors, Chris Webber and Rob Something, did nothing about this teasing. Rob even encouraged it, thought it would make a man out of Doug- that's according to Doug. Rob was of course an ex-Marine drill sergeant, he's one major reason Doug dislikes the military. Doug asked another counselor, a guy from California named Joey in the Bobcat cabin above his (Doug's cabin was some feline name, but I can't remember it), to do something about the teasing, and Joey did speak to the boys about it, but it did no good. The teasing ranged from standard name-calling to shampoo barrages in the showers, to Ex-Lax in Doug's drinks and short-sheeting of his bed and similar pranks, to stealing his books and clothes and hiding them, I don't need to go on. The worst of the group in overall teasing was a little snothead named Bob Mead, who was somehow made Camp King that year. Don't ask me how this came about, I don't know. Also in the group was Richard Penshorn, a fat jerk even fatter than Doug was at that age (he was thirteen) who had the most inventive mind for pranks; Steve Houten, a wishy-washy type who would one day be nice to Doug and do things like loan him his Gameboy or tell him his books were hidden and the next be teasing and belittling him just like the rest of the cabin; and Ben Goodall, who was basically the stereotypical big bully who threatened Doug with severe bodily harm every time he dared tell Bob, Steve, or Richard to back off. There was Robbie Swift, too- he was nice to Doug and didn't take part in the teasing, but he didn't help Doug out either. The last guy in the cabin was John Graham (yes, that was his real name, I know we called him Graham Johnson before. His was one of many names we changed for our own reasons. In this case, the change was small). Graham was a fourteen year old bull queer wannabe. I know many of you may not be able to believe such a kind of person can exist, but he did and perhaps still does. His teasing of Doug at that camp is the reason Doug has trouble understanding gays and will violently deny that he is one. John Graham accused Doug of being gay many times, the other boys (except for Robbie) seconded the idea often and laughed whenever Doug denied it. He often came on to Doug too, and made many sexual advances. Doug was just entering puberty at the time, just starting to notice girls and have sexual thoughts about them. His mother is an open homophobe, she raised him. He'd just recieved his first kiss on the mouth from a girl the previous semester at school, and it was the happiest moment of his life so far. You should be able to imagine how any implication of his possible gayness made him feel, especially coming together with all the teasing in an environment where he did not fit in. The only activities he even did halfway well in were pistolry and diving, in the former five other guys were just as good or better and in the latter he won the activity medal only because they had to give medals to a male and female camper in every activity. Guess who was the only male who signed up for diving. Yep, Doug's cabinmates read a lot into that, and they didn't believe for a moment he signed up because he really liked to dive and he liked the girls' swimsuits. Doug did his best to endure their teasing, but often he got mad about it. Sometimes he even cried and complained about how he wanted to go home- you can imagine what the cabinmates did when they witnessed it. John Graham laughed whenever he saw Doug doing this, and he always told Doug "Don't get mad, man. A little butt-loving, it'll all be okay." or something to that effect. Then sometimes he would reach out a hand to touch Doug, and Doug would always shrug it off, sometimes even slap the hand away. And then he would run out of the cabin and down to the lake or into the woods, to the echoes of his cabinmates' laughter and jeers. For hours he would not have the courage to come back to his cabin, and nor could he get up the courage to call home and ask his mom to come get him- he didn't want to let the jerks win. On the specific night that Doug bashed John Graham's head in, things came to a head. It was a week and a half to the end of the session. He'd been sneaking off to the 7-10 year old boys' showers at shower time instead of the adolescent boys' for over a week, just to avoid his cabinmates' teasing and shampoo barrages. The boys in that age group were sometimes there at the same time he was, he didn't mind. He just wanted to get himself clean and do it in peace. On that night, he was alone in the showers for the first few minutes. Then Bob Mead, who had followed him, came in and started jeering and throwing shampoo. Doug screamed at the sight of this, and just exploded. He literally cursed Bob out, calling him a goddamned shithead. He didn't strike at Bob, just cursed at him and ordered him to quit things once and for all. Bob, as always, adapted the attitude of "what's your problem? I'm just playing with you." Doug didn't consider it playing. He grabbed his towel and stormed out of the showers, not even bothering to finish washing the soap off himself. Bob threw jeers and laughter after him but did not follow. When Doug got back to the cabin, the rest of the boys had not yet returned from their showers, nor had the counselors. He sat down on his bed and put his head in his hands, stayed that way for several minutes. Then he heard laughing, and looked up to see John Graham back from his shower standing in the cabin doorway. Graham kept laughing as he walked towards Doug, and then he asked Doug, "What's the matter?" "You know what's the matter," Doug replied, standing up and glaring at him. "Yeah, I think I do," Graham laughed. "No little boys in the shower with you tonight, huh? Did Bob get any?" "Shut up," Doug snapped back. "I am not that way and you know it. I only go there to get away from you." "Dougie, Dougie, Dougie. Still playing hard to get. Why don't you open yourself to the truth?" Then he reached out his hand and put it on Doug's shoulder. Doug looked at the hand, then said, "Get that off me." Graham laughed. "Take it off me, Goddamn it!" Graham kept laughing and pulled Doug towards him. Doug exploded with rage at that moment and punched Graham in the nose with his free arm, breaking it. Graham screamed and fell back, let go of Doug, then jumped up with his fists out and yelled "You want it hard?! Huh?!" Doug responded him with an inarticulate yell, leapt at Graham, kicked him in the stomach, punched him several times in the face and chest. He took a few blows himself, but Graham got hit the hardest and was knocked down. Doug then grabbed him by the hair and slammed his head into the steel pole in the center of the cabin several times, until five of Graham's teeth were knocked out, his lips and forehead were split open, and he was unconscious. Then Joey, Chris, and Rob grabbed him and broke it up. It turned out they and several other counselors and campers from Doug's cabin, the Bobcat cabin, and two other cabins had been standing outside ever since Graham had grabbed Doug, some of them maybe even before. None of them had dared to rush in and intervene until Doug had won the fight. But they had seen the whole thing, the cabin's windows were mosquito screens. Easy to see through. Almost a hundred witnesses said Doug acted in self-defense, and they were right. The head of the camp, Bobby (again I forget the last name) was awakened and rushed down to the scene. He took statements from everyone, especially Chris, Rob, and Joey. Doug himself said nothing when asked, only continued to breathe heavily and occasionally look down at Graham and smile. He would smile at Bob, Steve, Richard, and Ben too- they were all staring at him in shock. Bobby found out all that had been going on and took action. Graham was taken to the infirmary and spent the rest of the session there, it turned out some of his ribs had also been broken by Doug's kicks. His parents were informed of what had happened, but neither I nor Doug knows their reaction or what happened to him after that. The next day Bobby met with Chris and Rob, Rob was fired on the spot and banished from camp property while Chris was disciplined, fined, and sent back to the cabin. Bobby had Doug get dressed, gather his things, and then spend the next two days at his house on the camp property, to isolate him from the other campers and calm him down. Two days of more-than-decent food fixed by Bobby's wife, Nintendo, TV, a comfortable bed, and no teasing did what Bobby had hoped it would- Doug calmed down. Doug also told him everything that had happened and Bobby understood, then said Doug's family should be proud of him. Doug, somewhat shocked at what he had done now that it was over, requested that his family not be told of the events, and though this request was honored by Bobby (Doug told his family what happened himself a few years later), the entire camp remembered the event. When Doug went back to his cabin, he never had to deal with pranks or having his things stolen again. Bob and Steve still teased him now and then, but one look from Doug was enough to shut them up. Chris never said anything to Doug about the fight, Joey however often smiled when he and Doug saw each other. At the end of the session, Doug went home. That's what happened. I hope you can see now why Doug didn't go to prison and that what he did was justified, right, and necessary. I hope you can understand him better now too. I never want to tell this story again.
<flame wars in here> You don't like them, don't start them. And don't deny you have done this either, the evidence is clear to any intelligent person who cares to examine the posts made. Over the past year, over half of the flame wars in here have been started by you. You said something negative and uncalled-for about Christine, we stood up for her, and you laughed at us, called us names, and kept right on bashing her and us too. You know you did this, the whole room knows you did this. I hope you will never do it again. You don't like coming in here, don't come in. You don't like being antagonized and belittled, don't antagonize and don't belittle others. In short, treat other people the way you want to be treated. Everyone in here has senses, affections, passions, feelings, just like you. You should remember that and be considerate of it. You prick us, we bleed; you tickle us, we laugh; you wrong us, we revenge. Every one of us is real and human, myself included. You too, though I have trouble believing it at times.
<Betrayal, lies, manipulation> Yes, these things are in here. We have chosen to allow them in here, and no, we should not have done this. Now we can either live with them or do what must be done to evict them and bring back trust, friendship, and love. Me, I'm for the latter. What about y'all?
**UNPLEASANT WORDS HAVE ALL BEEN SAID**

Admins: A lot of what I said in the above paragraphs was not kind, but I assure you it is all true and I believe it was also necessary. If you do not agree, I give you licence to take any action against me that you will. I can take it, I am a Texan and I have lived through enough tragedies and dangerous situations. I have my courage back, and strong it shall remain.

DPH: You can look in the archives for the full name I gave in here. It's not my real name though, it never has been. It was another of the many names Doug and I gave falsely when we made our posts. We gave those names for two reasons- first, to protect ourselves from possible stalkers (Gus wasn't the first guy I've had after me in the worst way), and second, because part of the fun of the Internet in our opinion is getting to for a time step into the shoes of another identity, a made-up identity, for a time, and forget about all the problems in your life. Every one of us does this in some way even if it's as small as going by a screen name, no one should be surprised I did it. Neither Doug nor I did it to the extent some people believe, but we did do it. Yes, his real name is Doug Elder, for those who are wondering. Doug's brave enough to share his true self with people, he's never been stalked. Me, well, I'm different. <shrugs> No, I'm not going to share my real full name in here. I don't see why I should, nor do I feel I can trust everyone in here with it. I am content to accept Robby, Christine, SJ, Imzadi, Lain, Coyote, Ravyn, GB, and everyone else in here as the identities they claim to be. I wish to have my identity felt about the same way. After all, 80% of it is the truth, and the rest is just my own exgaggeration and self-protection. I think it's the latter that's confused and angered people, and I am going to stop it. At the same time I am still not going to tell people my real name. I am simply Kit, just as Lain is simply Lain, Lynati is simply Lynati, Mara is simply Mara, etc, etc, etc. My real name I do not need to post. The UT I graduated from was UT-Austin, anybody who didn't know that has forgotten everything about where I live. <dramatic eye-roll> BTW, Daniel, why do you want to know what courses I'm getting into? Just curious, it seems a very strange question for some reason. <shrugs>

Christine: I'll get you the feedback posthaste, er, I mean tomorrow evening. :) Glad you're looking forward to it. For now, I will say that I REALLY enjoyed the book.

Shadowrider: Thanks for saying hi, glad you also missed us. I'll drop you a line soon so you'll know my email address and can send me some. Thanks for respecting my busyness. Thanks for the good luck wishes too, and the wedding congrats. I believe November is romantic also, the wedding's going to be in the second week. Doug's gonna try to set things up so that he quits his Wal-Mart job right before it, we have the wedding and go on our honeymoon to San Francisco (in the wintertime, winter's our favorite season), we get back to Austin for Thanksgiving (I'll take vacation time during all this), and he starts working for Brinks the Monday after Thanksgiving. We'll see if it works out that way. Boris is our best man, Shauna's gonna be my maid of honor with Gubio/Alex and Keith as groomsmen, and Tricia and Stephanie as bridesmaids. Shap and Elena will be the ushers. Doug's cousin was gonna be a bridesmaid too, but she may not be able to make it to Austin for the wedding, so she cancelled. :( I already have my dress picked out, but there is a lot more to decide. Like type of ceremony, officiant, caterer (we have to have a reception afterwards with cake, shrimp cocktails- not buffalo wings, we both hate them-, cherry cola, and dancing. Lots and lots of dancing. :), and many other things. We'll keep you up to date if you like. Thank you also for your belief in me, such feelings are very important to me and reading your words about them brought a smile to my lips. I second your challenge, knowing that I can easily disprove any so-called evidence that is brought to light. I know the truth of things, and I'm no longer afraid to say it. Like someone (I think it was Firestorm) said back when things were going crazy in here and everyone was pointing bad fingers at Doug and me, the evidence is all circumstantial anyway, and not one bit of it would stand up in court. We can all believe what we will about reality, but as far as I am concerned, I know the truth about myself, Doug, and all our friends, families, and experiences. And no matter what, I shall continue to believe in that truth. I would not be doing this if it was a lie, what reason could I possible have for that? <sighs> Ok, I'll move now. Once again, thanks for your belief. Your friendship too. :)

Lain: Congrats on your dad being out of your life for now, glad he didn't take your computer away like he was threatening (that's obvious since you're posting, though you correct me if I'm wrong). I still hope the two of you can resolve your problems somehow, and wish you luck with it. Good luck with Gunjack too, once again. :) And good luck with your visit to Josh, hope you both enjoy it a lot. Bravo in standing up to that anti-Asian jerk next door, hope he doesn't talk to you again. If he does, just keep ignoring his views and being yourself- it's what I do with such people. Another bravo for saying to SJ and Pistoff what you did, I thank you for and appreciate your support. BTW, that is a really cute mean admin face. :)

Welcome to Bill Schaub and Welcome Back to Tim Phipps!

Tim: Good luck with your Marine Corps Enlistment. I have faith you'll be one of the good ones. Cool new guns. :)

Lynati: Wish we had some of that rain here. <sigh> Condolences on the lack of chocolate zingers. I too enjoy those. Good luck with the upcoming return to college, try not to let it drive you too crazy. :)

Ok, that's all for tonight. It's late. Doug will be home in four hours (he has the night shift tonight), but he doesn't like me waiting up for him even when I'm off tomorrow, so I'll go on to bed. Good night everyone. Later!
Kit
Sunday, August 12, 2001 12:20:25 AM
IP: 198.211.187.144

Hmm,.. I found the whole announcement of the next edition of the title of the Star Wars ep, "Attack of the Clones" and the Announcment on CNN of that fertility clinic's plans on cloning 200 humans, strangely spaced close together.
Coincidence, or conspiracy?
MorningSong
Saturday, August 11, 2001 11:21:26 PM
IP: 24129164hfc58.tampabay.rr.com

Hello folks.

Today is Shabbat, so my cousin’s family once again did ABSOLUTELY nothing until Sunset. Technically, you’re not allowed to use the phone, or the computer (oops!), or do anything even remotely related to work (drive, operate any machinery). Pretty cool if you ask me. That means I should be sitting around reading magazines (not working on my fic though, cuz that’s on a computer). I can deal with that kind of holiday, even if they don’t believe in hell ;-)

Well I used the computer and worked on my fic anyway. Oh well.

After conversations with The Wizard and Dubble last a total of about 4.3 million hours, I finally crashed around 2AM.

And Lain’s coming to visit tomorrow! Yay! Here’s a shocker: my cousins think I’m nuts for meeting someone I talk to over the internet. I have to say that since Gathering, I don’t really worry that any of you are psychopathic stalkers (well, except maybe Niamhgold, but that’s a story for another time).

After speaking with Apple yesterday, my g4 is back to “being assembled”. Please wait 5 weeks (argh!).

I realize my Canadian accent slipped last night. Soory aboot that. Those responsible have been sacked.

Curses! My ex girlfriend said that her parents basically told me to “f*ck off” in my efforts to sell my laptop. Oh well, her loss.

On the plus side, my best friend is back from Greece, so now I have someone to talk to for hours on end 8-)

Pistoff: Good to see you around here again. Your posts always made me laugh my butt off. <<it's like the audition room for the Jerry Springer show>>: I think that’s putting it mildly. <<how you pounded a guy's head into a steel post for seven straight minutes and somehow didn't end up in prison>>: You forgot to add “because he called you gay”. <<Like I'm actually scared>>: Well obviously you’re too scared to post anything about it.

FS: <<Then do the exact OPPOSITE!>>: Oh, quiet you!

DPH: <<When does life begin>>: Human life? Cuz my brother is 13 and I still wouldn’t call him “human”… <<Exactly when does the entitlement to life begin>>: When you start voting republican ;-)

Shadowrider: <<hope it's not a problem if I write just "Josh". Writing your full posting name is quite long sometimes>>: No worries. Its not like anyone ELSE in here has my name 8-) <<young man"? I have the slight suspect I am a bit older than you>>: Probably. I’m not quite 20 yet. <<anyone has his own little lies>>: I have no idea what you mean ;-)

Jan: <>: Perhaps that’s what you meant, but when you said it you sounded more like you were interested in covering your butt. <<church begins at 11am - I'm always up no later than 8:30 am anyway, so I haven't lost any sleep>>: Well fine then! I would have lost lots of sleep though. I usually sleep till 2 or 3 on Sundays ;-) <<no opened toe shoes>>: Gah! But what are all the students at Berkeley supposed to wear?! <<why are you thanking God if you don't believe in Him>>: Because I’m tired of getting funny looks when I say “thank me”. <<Why am I getting the 3rd degree on the topic and yet you are patting David on the back>>: Just cuz I love ya. I’m not patting David on the back, he just answered some specific questions I had with his own beliefs and I was telling him that his information was useful and interesting. I’ve heard your shtick before ;-) <<They take the chance that most people wouldn't go that far to get back their money>>: Tell your dad not to take on any impetuous young jewish tenants…

Baldy: <<Why on earth do you want to use a weapon against me>>: For fun and profit! <<to make things come full circle, I'd say Star Trek conventions>>: LOL! <<I'm being pried loose from the computer>>: will they need a crowbar? Has your butt permanently molded to the seat?

Lain: <>: September I heard. <<LETS JUST ALL GET ALOOOOONG>>: You sound more like Rodney King than any hippy I’ve ever met. <>: I am laughing SO hard right now. <<do i still get points for effort>>: Okay, I give up. Why’d we pick Lain!? <<if i make sad puppy-eyes at you>>: If you were asking SJ, I’d say that he’s immune to puppy-dog faces since he’s my clone. <<DAVID G IS REALLY GUNJACK IN DISGUISE... OR VICE-VERSA>>: Der! <<everyone should stop pretending to be everyone else>>: Who’s pretending? <<im a really BAAAD atheist if i can quote the bible from memory>>: Not at all. Everyone has books they can quote from memory. You just have worse taste than other Atheists. <<the guy who assaulted me last year took me out to a movie the other day>>: Wow. I’d have killed him myself. <<am i downplaying what happened, letting him think it was ok>>: Or perhaps you’re upplaying the assault. <<im a CLOSET Christian>>: I thought Christianity didn’t allow people to be in the closet? <<you want to look at me with a feral glint in your eye>>: I don’t think it’s a question of “want”. I think he’s just always got that look like he’s gonna bite your head off. Which is why I can’t wait to meet him at G2k2. <<yes, i have issues with intimacy>>: Der! <>: That’s what YOU think! BUWAHAHAHA! <<will you have a rose in your teeth>>: Not bloody likely. I’ll be the guy standing there in shades with light gray shorts and a green t-shirt that says “Bank of Dad”. I hope. <<you just have to look for the reddy-blondish hot chick in the crushed velvet shirt with black wrist supports getting off the bus>>: I told you to stop doing that! It’s bad for your wrists! <>: See e-mail. <<the bus stops at 610 bay st>>: Um, okay. Lets see if I can get there.

The Wizard: <<Why, it's positively fall-like around here>>: Right. A hot fall. <<had a half day yesterday, went shopping today, looking at new printers>>: Ooh, printers. See anything good in the $300-range USB laser section? I’m looking to replace my crap-son. <<it's because snaggle-toothed elves stole me away from my home>>: I hate it when they do that. <<I'm going to the beach around five, and I don't know what time I'll be back at...probably later>>: Great guess. I was gonna guess that since you were going to the beach around five, you’d also be online at exactly the same time…but of course that’s just because my laptop never leaves my side. <<Great. No busts for you>>: ::chuckle:: <<You know that's stuff is loaded with subliminal messages. "You WILL buy from Apple, you WILL buy from Apple>>: Too late. <<Hmm, now why does that sound familiar?>>: Probably because I said it last night. Or because you’ve been watching Hackers, one of the coolest movies ever. <<Are you suggesting that people who are religious have no right/shouldn't be sad, and only aetheists can be sad>>: No, I’m suggesting that Aris is an idiot. <<People are always telling me that I'm not really happy unless I'm miserable>>: Those people are wrong. Misery is not happiness. Its misery. Any idiot should be able to tell them apart. <<do you look down on those that just have an overall faith in, well, _life>>: No. I just don’t agree with them. <<it's whatever floats your boat>>: Usually a hollow construction ;-) <<All bark and all bite...I'll be sure to keep my distance>>: Unless you’re into that. <<what do you tell her if she's never dated anyone (yet)?>>: That depends on what I think of her. If I think she’s beautiful, I’ll tell her. Of course, she’d have a right to be sceptical if no guys had ever shown any physical interest in her, but then again I’m never wrong so she should just take my word on it. <<Or the Bermuda Triangle>>: No, I think that can be interesting even without sex. <<once again...skcus that>>: Its okay, Apple fixed it. <<I'd like to see SJ "have" kids, period>>: You have fun with that. I’ll stick with my tickets to SJ vs. Crzy. <<I'm trying our inside joke this time around>>: Still said “Josh”. Or were you talking about another inside joke? <<all those days in the sun and I think I noticed a bit of a tope hue>>: At least you have a “hue”. I’m damn near transparent! <<MacBeth would be *wishing* he could feel her, uh, pain>>: I wish I could feel her too. <<take the other tests and see what I score. No, not IF I score ;)>>: I must be getting predictable. I’ll have to change that. <<I'll have my own room, which means I won't have to keep "quiet" for my roommate.>>: A screamer, huh? Cool! <<I'm working on my book of bestiary at the moment>>: I could always use a new Monstrous Compendium. <>: Send me a picture. I wanna see. <<Double Dare Challenge>>: I’m sure you’ll be shocked to hear that “Double Dare Challenge” was NOT what I was thinking. <>: Nah, I doubt it. After all, I’ll need someone to run Portugal ;-) <<you wouldn't rule long with me sneaking around>>: That’s it! Off with her head! <<Are you sure you don't have any artist?>>: No one in my family is artistically inclined. <>: Two totally different sides of the brain, dear. <<not for _this_ girl>>: ?? <<it hurts when you break up> God d@mn>>: You seem surprised at that. <<Maniacal laughs are very cool>>: Amen. <<I'm glad some guys think that>>: Maxim has better pictures, and they’re covered. <<And to think she's now doing Loreal commercials>>: That woman would look good wearing a potato sack. <<If there's no damage, how come they keep it>>: They’re bastards. <>: Try Berkeley. <<My college life in a nutshell>>: Everyone’s college life in a nutshell! Except mine. Cuz my life doesn’t fit in a nutshell. << Top Ten Tackle>>: I’M ON TOP!

Christine: Are you gonna post more reminders before the due date? Like, a week before and less? Cuz I need to work on stuff.

Jaden: << time is supposed to go by faster when you're busy; SO WHY IS IT SO SLOW>>: It doesn’t count if you NOTICE you’re busy. Time only flies when you’re in the groove, when you don’t notice that you’re doing anything. <>: Hah hah! You’re an old man! << Oh I get it, they focused so much of their imaginations on making the movie that they didn't have enough left for the title. Yes that must be it>>: Of course!

Tim Phipps: << I'm glad that my favorite comment room has not exploded over piddling romantic rivalies and combative egos... yet>>: Which CR were YOU going to? << I've also recently expanded my private arsenal>>: Awesome! Old guns are cool.

Lynati: << What is the world coming to>>: I was gonna ask exactly the same thing! Uh…what are chocolate zingers? <>: I go for the fudge brownie ice cream, myself. << college countdown: ten days>>: Me too! << other scary number countdown: one month and one day>>: One month and 8 days for me.

K folks, off to bed so I can pick up Lain tomorrow! Yay!

Ignorance is bliss…to the ignorant! To me, it’s just plain annoying.
-Mr. Floppy, “Unhappily Ever After”

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Toronto, Ontario, Canada, eh?
Saturday, August 11, 2001 11:05:24 PM
IP: hse-toronto-ppp255355.sympatico.ca

10th!
Josh
Saturday, August 11, 2001 09:08:56 PM
IP: hse-toronto-ppp255355.sympatico.ca

**morphs in**

TOP TEN!

**morphs out**
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Dearborn, MI
Saturday, August 11, 2001 09:08:22 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

TOP 10
DPH
Saturday, August 11, 2001 08:40:15 PM
IP: max1-21.cwy.cei.net

Sorry. Time check. 12:09 08/12/01
Fire Storm
Saturday, August 11, 2001 08:35:03 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Seventh! Yeah! Top Ten Tackle ;)
Niamhgold
Saturday, August 11, 2001 08:15:13 PM
IP: lac-flex174.ncia.net

SIXTH!

(Jeez. I hardly ever post but somehow I often manage to make the top ten.)
Infinity
Saturday, August 11, 2001 07:58:13 PM
IP: 205.139.171.157

Fifth! (if I'm fast enough)
Jan
Saturday, August 11, 2001 07:22:26 PM
IP: modem19-160.mo-net.com

Fourth!!
Siofra
Saturday, August 11, 2001 07:09:24 PM
IP: pm414-04.dialip.mich.net

Third!
Fire Storm - [jeremycbcd@usa.net]
Saturday, August 11, 2001 07:02:57 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Second!
Tim
Saturday, August 11, 2001 06:45:03 PM
IP: 207.177.117.15

FIRST!!!
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Saturday, August 11, 2001 06:44:36 PM
IP: dialin-1228-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net