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college news: Texas beat Tech 41 to 7! We rock we rock! And I was hot stuff today at our dance performance, shaking my booty! Gotta write a paper, love ya.
SOROW - [allison.abadie@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:09:25 AM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

*Lynati enters, beating on a small handrum and (still) belting out the lyrics to "Tusk"*

Heyla, all. I've been alternating between this song on repeat for hours strait and a Linkin Park CD on repeat since about 5 yesterday.
Just thought you'd like to know.
I think I'm going to blame it for all the f#@%ed up art I've been making recently. (I can't blame Gunjack for this one at all, unfortunately.)

Patrick Toman: the only timelines I have found have been incomplete, but I can give you the dates for relevent eps. that I do have:
Vendettas: Aug 1-2 1996
Turf: Aug 2-3 1996
The Reckoning: ?
Possession: ?
Hunter’s Moon 1-3: 22-26 oct. 1996

I don't know if that'll help any, but it's the best I can manage.

*GONE*
Lynati "Why don't you tell me what's going on..." Kshudra
Saturday, September 29, 2001 11:27:27 PM
IP: 207.94.232.107

*Runs in trailing chains and looking around frantically.* Hehee...I'M FREEEEEEEEE!!! It can't hold me anymore!!

ahem
anywho

Been a hullofa month. Lots of stupid people out there now. I hate stupid ppl. I think after we destroy the Taliban, we should declare war on stupid people.

My school has decided that i cannot graduate this year. Why? Because I don't have any of my 'concentration' credits completed. Now, I was never told that i needed a total of 30 Math credits to graduate with a BCIS. i was told 16, but noooo...that's just the core requirements. Trying to see if i can take a Philosophy concentration as opposed to a Math con. Then i'll only need to be in school another semester, not 3. Maybe after we kill all the stupid people, we can take out all the college admins. Oh wait, redundant. Never mind.

Emambu>>Keep an eye on your mail, man. IT will be in your box as soon as i clean up some of the old comments. IT only gained 6 pages.

Uhm welll...lessee....*sees Hailer's post* YAY! When did you start posting? *goes over to lay at her feet*

I gotta sleep...tournament reffing at WVU tomorrow morning.
Laters all
Shade and Sweet Water
Archwolf
Saturday, September 29, 2001 10:34:28 PM
IP: pumpkin-b-23.mcmurray.nb.net

I saw "Enterprise" this afternoon. The one thing I love about the local UPN affiliate... ever since the second season of "Voyager," they have always aired the episodes twice. So even if you missed it on Wednesday, you can still watch on Saturday. And so...

** WARNING - "Enterprise" Spoilers **

Ok... that theme song just didn't sound like a "Trek" theme song at ALL. Whoever was responsible for that decision should be fired immediately.

Biggest disappointment: Seeing that men are still wearing neckties in 2155. Ties are the one item of clothing that can't go out of fashion fast enough, IMHO.

Biggest surprise: Discovering that Vulcan women don't wear bras. "Is it cold in this decontamination chamber, or is it just me?"
Biggest cliche: The farmer with the shotgun (okay, so it was a pulse rifle - same difference).** END "Enterprise" SPOILERS **
GB - A lumberjack? O.o

Greg B. - The Mussolini treatment? I'd like to think Americans are too high class for that. I'd be perfectly happy with just seeing the footage from the smart missle as it chases a turban into a cave.

Small request for help... I'm looking for an approximate date for the events of the Gargoyles episode "The Reckoning." Is there an official timeline posted anywhere I could refer to?
Patrick Toman
Saturday, September 29, 2001 10:05:28 PM
IP: ac9ee1bc.ipt.aol.com

Ok, I guess the CR has been fixed.

Green Baron- I may just have to go look-up your clanmate...find out why the Army isn't paying enough money. ;P If you are looking for dry weather I'll bet Arizona is the place to go.

I'll post more later. Right now I've got to run to the ATM and withdraw money since my card expires today and my family can't send me my new until I get to Ft. Lewis. <sigh> If it's not one thing, it's another.

Later.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Saturday, September 29, 2001 08:27:08 PM
IP: 211.216.216.46

Quick question: was Robert Skir connected to Gargoyles outside of the following stories: "Legion", "Kingdom", "Future Tense", and "Turf"?

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, September 29, 2001 04:26:57 PM
IP: max1-36.cwy.cei.net

Yes, I'm with SJ on this. I want to see a few bombs being dropped on Afghanastan. Hell, even Clinton would have dropped a few bombs by now. The payoff had better be worth it.

If I were President, half the Taliban and Al Quada would be dead right now and the other half would be alive hanging naked from meat hooks in the middle of New York City with people throwing things at them.
Greg Bishansky
Saturday, September 29, 2001 03:16:46 PM
IP: dialin-1033-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Spacebabie < no that just means your bro has problems with ppl like us.
Courtney
Saturday, September 29, 2001 01:10:11 PM
IP: 66.73.10.62

Can I ask a question?

Does the fact that I like to read, watch Anime, like scifi and fantasy, and can't wait to see movies like Monsters INC, Harry Potter and LOTR make me an immature geek or is my brother a shallow jerk who needs to MYOB.

Speaking of the doofus he broke up with his girlfriend, well actually her mom. His ex girlfriend is not yet 16 and he's 19. Hank Hill said it best. "That Boy Aint Right,"

He is right about what we should do when we get our hands on Bin Laden, Not kill him but torture him. He suggested slowly removing Bin Laden's finger nails one at a time. I'm thinking mor along the lines of castration or at least..."Too the Pain" type of punishment.

Aingeal and Josh>>> Hmmm I think I see the problem, Josh made a smartass comment((He wasn't being mean)) and Aingeal took it a little too literal. The point is You need to develope a thick skin and don't get upset from everything Josh said. He is afterall named "Josh"... sorry to PUNish you all like that.

Crzy>>>My prayers are with your grandmother.

GXB and Entity>>>I didn't see the first ep of Enterprise either and let me tell you why.. I used to watch Voyager but after the first three seasons I stopped and I think you guys know why.

SJ>>>Whoa I know we have to kick the Taliban's arse but I think you a little too impatient hon. It took America 100 days after Pearl Harbor to get involved with the war, but I do agree with you a bit about Angelina Joli, or as I call her Ahfgani Angie.

Happy Belated Birthdays too all that had Birthdays this week.

Fleur>>>Take all of them and watch the walls melt? nah I prefer watching my hands moving for an hour.

As for my cold, I am getting better but my ears have still yet to pop.

1013<-----The day my new Computer arives.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:58:22 PM
IP: proxy.ord.netsetter.com

Hey everyone *pockes in* Sorry I can't post during the week. I got too much happening in my life right now...When are the new stories going ta be up if anyone knows?
bye bye.

Courtney
Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:32:52 PM
IP: 66.73.10.62

Howdy, all, and happy weekend! ;)

GB> Wow, Ft. Huachuca, huh? Well, let me know if you get sent here... that would really be awesome! And yes...the weather's lovely. ;)

Josh> <<If you LAUGH, you're as big a dweeb as I am.>> Damn. I laughed. ;)

SJ> You know what? I'm really startin' to think like you...I wanna see *something* happening! I'm a little more optimistic, though... maybe something's already starting, and we just don't hear about it because it's tippy-top secret. Yeah, that's it. ;) Oh, and I loved the link to The Onion you posted up a few days ago. Especially the article reporting on the hijackers burning in Hell. ;) <<*bows* I kneel to you obvious wisdom of wrestling!>> Wow! **bows back** Thanks, SJ! I'm flattered. ;) <> Sadly, I haven't seen too much of the newer stuff...no TV at school will do that to ya. **sighs** ;)

FS> Hope you get well soon!
Ravyn
Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:00:22 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

I got this in the email from yahoo groups status and I thought I would pass along:

Yahoo groups is going to be down from 10pm to 12am on Sunday September 30 for scheduled maintanence. During this time, the web site will be unavailable. Email sent during this time will be queued and delivered when the service is back up.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Saturday, September 29, 2001 11:26:04 AM
IP: max1-33.cwy.cei.net

Greetings CR land and to all Americans, you are so lucky. I wash I was back in the US. I have another 22 montsh in Germany and I am going to see about getting a new duty assignemnt sooner, though sooner may mean 16 months from now. I would rather be in Ft Polk than Germany. I am so miserable here. I feel so alone an dtrapped on a post that is just a series of islands. I feel no real bond with my Unit and all the folks in the barracks want to party. It si rather miserable. Plus its rainy and cold. I would love to be in Ft Huachuca, where it is warm and dry.

Lain> I don't want carpet bombing either. Its a waste of money and won't accomplish anything. Carpet Bombing si more something Clinton would do when he wanted the heat off of him. We got hit, because President Hillbilly weakened our defenses and shot a few empty targets calling it a strike against terror.

Getting Bin Laden would be good, but he's only the tip of the iceberg. The Taliban needs to be eliminated. We can free Afghanistan from their oppressive rule. Afghanistan can regain its King and then we get rid of the Taliban in Pakistan. We must convince the General taht the Taliban are a threat to his power so he can eliminate them from Pakistan. As for Bin Laden, the King of Saudi Arabia can help us eliminate the whole Clan and then he can seize their fortune. That family has rebuilt US facilities destroyed by Osama. I doubt its a coincidence. Even if we can't catch Bin Laden, we can destroy everything that he has built and that means anything to him.

Angelina Jolie> She's not as bad as Hanoi Jane. She doesn't go to Afghanistan to cheer on the Taliban like Red Jane did for the North Vetnamese. However, she's a standard Hollywood type. There are only a few in Hollywood that I take seriously, though Charleton Heston really isn't a part of Hollywood these days. Well, what do you expect when people with oversized egos with too much money are unsupervised :)

Jennifer> <<I'm not much into holding grudges against people who's ancestors were idiots 200 years ago. >>
I don't hold it against them, especially since Jeb is a Catholic, the favorite targets of Puritans. I just thinsk its unfortunate to have that as a legacy. Its like having a great uncle who was a Nazi.

I do offer hugs for you as you take care of your grandmother. If sge raised you, she probably had a lot of energy and class and being Southern, I am reminded of my matronly cousin who died of cancer because she was raied not to talk about such things. She was 85 and never had anything doen about her cancer or told anyone, even her grandchildren or cousins she treated as grandchildren, like me.

Spend as much time with her as you can. I don't have any grandparents left.

Carolynn Marie> Well, I was hoping to spend Thanksgiving in Istanbul, but I don't have enough of a pass. Still, it would be amusing to spend Thanksgiving in Turkey :) I will spend it with my cousins and my godson, though it isn't a menaingful holiday to me, since I hate Puritans and I also don't care for anything secualr. I haven't doen anything for Christams beyond a midnight mass in years.

Christine> I remember that quote. I can relate to ding it for the money. I changed my legal residence to Florida so I can avoid paying state income tax. Good thing my godfather lives there, even though I am too young to live there.

Metaldemon> You can discuss teh ethical side of capitalsim, though good and evil are not relevant to Economics. I alos don't like the Governemnt having too much involvement with our lives. They serve limited functions doing what we cannot do for ourselves. To me, socialism tries to impose morality on us, like the Religious Right does.

<<smuggle some illegals in the US>> Good, I need some honest cheap labor:)

As for Chomsky, not every liberal follows him, but plenty do. He's as loony as Dr. Spock, only more venomous and in my opinion more dangerous. I don'tthink too much of Matt Damon. He may be an okay actor, but he's Hollywood, so his opinions don't really concern me. Basiclaly, most of Chomsky's followers are dupes. As for Horowitz, he is not soem right-wing raidcal. He's pretty moderate on social issues, being pro-choice in the firt trimester and supporting gay rights. In fact, he has made strong critcisms of the religious right, and he has defended South Park for its irreverence. He also defended Bill Maher's right to free speech. Think what you will of him, but he is one reaosn why I've shifted from ultra-right wing supporting Alan Keyes for President to becoming a Libertarian.

Patrick> I hate turkey, you can have it :p Now, I'd love some stuffing made from PETA members and served in pita bread, too :)

Josh and Aingeal> Stop fighting and enjoy some....gummi-colas made in Germany ;)

Warpmind> Well, its too bad Bin laden's wealth isn't a bunch of gold and jewelry, then the Scandivanians can send in theri longboats and do some good old-fashioned pillaging. Vikings II: Plundering the Persia Gulf. That would be a cool computer game.

SJ> Jesse Jackson shoudl go to Afghanistan. I hope they lock him in soem prison where he is never heard from again. He is an obnoxious little fraud and was probably involoved in Dr. King's asassination. If they get rid of him, we shoudls end a little thank you note along with a declaration of war.

Bishansky> I prefer Babylon 5, definitely. I doubt Deep Space Nine would have Dominicans aboard. Also, the shwo about the Great Burn is based on Walter Miller's A Canticle for Leibowitz, an excellent, though dark series of short stories.

Yooper, SJ, Imzadi, Gside> Here's another link on Chomsky. Click on my name.

Gside> <<But you've also got to give him credit for UG and all the other fun Linguistic stuff he came up with, before he went insane.>> Well, he should have stuck to linguistics and not voiced his other opinions which so many people give him credibility. It is terrible when intellectuals give opinions on subjects they don't undestand and its treated like gospel truth.

Imzadi> <<Not nearly as exciting as SJ vs. Crzy.>> Well, Gathering '02 is in SJ's home state. You wanna sell tickets or should I :)

Imzadi> <<Tobacco is legal in California.>> But heavily taxed. The black market is tax-free. That's how Attila pissed off Rob "Meathead" Reiner. There's a tale in the CR archives from a while back, about how he removed Reiner's eye and killed Alec Baldwin :)

<<Seriously. But then, he's Ted Turner. What do you expect?>> He was also a major enemy of my cat in the old RPs. You'd get good laughs out of those tales.

<<Since you weren't a student at either, I'm guessing you have only half the clue I do since I nearly went there.>> I went to a liberal arts Jesuit College. I had my share of Woodstock wannabees, with bleeding hearts led by Jesuits who should be wearing their collar.

Fleur> He is worse than a politician, he's an academic iwth an agenda. I have to be careful where my kids are educated. I will need to prepare them for the lefties when they enter College.

<> Well, its a valid concern. I still love ya, mate :)

Anonymous> I knew who Jeanette Rankin was. I actually agree with her in opposing our involvement in WWI. We were imfatued with the democracy myth and wanted to help the limeys out (even though they were still committing attrocities against the Irish: killing the men, raping the women, and molesting the children). The Kaiser knighted my great-grandfather's brother and our action led to Versailles were the French weasels, who surrender as soon as a German walks into Paris, made Germany ripe for Hitler and his Nazis.

I do think we had perfect jutification for WWII. We were attacked and we needed to respond. It was standard war business. Japan wanted the Phillipinesa nd our Pacific holdings, so we fought them and defeated an ancient foe. Tojo was also a despicable Shogun and a disagrce to teh Shinto value of honor. We bombed them, then we gave them aid and they provided quality goods for our consumers and forced the US automobile industry to compete and make good cars again.

Germnay and Italy declared war on us so we had to respond, plus if we didn't enter Europe, the Iron Curtain would cover all of Europe not just the Central and Eastern portions.

I am curious about Rankin's other votes. I think sh eis far better than Barbara Lee.

DPH> The Puritans were intolerant heathen Calvinists and King James I sent many to America becuase they were a pest to many English. When tehy arrived in the US, they ran out of people to persecute so they started persecuting each other, like the Salem Witch Trials. In England they took over under Ayatollah Oliver Bin Cromwell and all fun was banned in England until his death when the rightful ruler, King Charles II retook control and execute dthe main Purtian ring leaders, while forgiving the lower tiered ones. Cromwell and his band of fanatics committed countless atrocities against the Irish, mainly because they were Catholics and honored their Pope instead of a semi-literate sheep-humping tyrant. Catholcis in Engalnd were also slaughtered along with Anglicans who rejected the raidcal Calvinistic heresy Cromwell desired.

The Southern Baptists are not a threat to the Catholci Church. I have many Baptist friends who admire the Pope, so I have no quarrell with them. I don't like that Evangelicals are in Latin America, but that's understandable. My girlfriend is also a Southern Baptist (though mainly in name) so I have no real quarrell with them. As for them being right-wing, I like less taxes and less Government :)

Niamhgold> You as Witchblade? I never saw it. I heard they had soem episode showing a friendship between Hitler and Pope Pius XII. That's expected from Ted Turner's network.

Patrick Toman> Attial rather liked your Chavez costume. have you ever thought of being a lumberjack?

That's all. Bye
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
It doesn't matter, I just want to be back in the US
Saturday, September 29, 2001 10:40:40 AM
IP: bfce.hanau.army.mil

Carolyn Marie > "Puck for "wearing women's clothing" :) The World's First Transvestite Sprite! Whoohoo!" -- So you've seen me at the last two Gatherings. You know, I've got a small fan club now 'cause of that... it's amazing how many chicks go crazy when a guy wears tights. >:)

Angelina Jolie has always been... shall we say, a bit kookie. Frankly, I am not surprised in the least. All the newsbits I heard yesterday were strange. Bill Gates donates $10 million and people are calling him "cheap" 'cause he's worth like $300 billion. Other celebrities are finding it fashionable and making for good press right now to "tour" ground zero in NYC. And some airline pilots have begun giving preflight pep-talks containing words of wisdom such as "remember, there may be three or four hijackets, but there's 75 of you."
Stop the planet please... I want to get off.
Patrick Toman
Saturday, September 29, 2001 09:06:54 AM
IP: ac9ee116.ipt.aol.com

** Niamhgold enters **

Hey, guys. I was so completely and utterly exhausted last night (and I have no reason why; I sat on my butt practically all day with exception of a gym trip) that I went to sleep at 10. PM. Yes, 10 at night on a Friday. I must have _really_ been tired ;) Let's see, interesting stuff that happened...well, on my Thursday night class my cute teacher realized, without me having to tell him, that my self portrait was done as Witchblade which made for a thirty minute conversation about comics. Now he wants me to bring in comics for next class, and read into *that* what you will. Trust me, in this one case, I don't mind ;)

Meanwhile, MICA has cut off the Avenue and routes onto 83 for it's stupid birthday gala (the "fete of lights") which is so promesque that it makes me think I'm back in 12th grade ;) Me and my friends were wondering if we should crash the place...literally...with some CO2 tennis-ball launchers ;)

Anyways, on to replies!

Gside: <It made the Targum, I believe> Really? Y'know, I was kinda miffed that it hardly had any qualities of an F3...but it's creepy that it manifested itself over the Pentagon ;) <Don't know the actual numbers, but my I focus at about 5 inches> I'll have to ask the optometrist, but I would wager my focus is about the same <And we had a fire alarm at 3 last night for which I neglected to grab a long sleeve shirt> Ugh...cold! At least you hadn't just gotten out of the shower ;) <And I know you wouldn't mind a visit to Niamhgold> Yeah, sure...only to kick my PCs a$$ ;)

Jennifer: <My grandmother has lung cancer...> OMG, condolences...I'm wishing for her!

Firestorm: <Sick. Working. SUCKS.> Feel better! You need tissues, cough drops, and stay away from sugars ;) Garlic helps, but I wouldn't use that unless (a) it's absolutely necessary,(b) you've got a desire to lose females within a 10 mile radius ;), or (c) you've got a severe vampire infestation. (Unless they're succubi, in which case conditions (b) and (c) can be combined).

Warpmind: <Self-portrait as Witchblade? GIMMIEGIMMIEGIMMIE!!! *Sheepish grin*> Uh...in the words of Bob Dole, down boy ;) It's five and a half feet tall and I haven't gotten a digital pic yet. I say "yet" because I'm not sure I want everyone to see it ;) It was hard enough to explain to my class how I even _posed_ for the thing... ;) <don't make me break out Squiffy... please...> Squiffy? Sounds like a tribble?

Daddy: <Inert-net strikes again!> Darned orbitals. And now for the remaining periodic elements... <You are just sharp as a tack> I'm not dull. Just a little rusted. <What kind of tech support is this!?> Heh. The nonexistent kind ;) <except for that whole "asshole" streak, I'd be a common geek> Actually, it's been my experience that most computer geeks are a$$holes because they're really jaded because of wrongs in the past (he used to pick on me!) or aren't getting any ;) <What a brilliant idea!> Of course...it was mine ;) We actually scored condoms last year from a particularly generous couple (who I'm sure wanted to be left alone and that's what they had in close proximity ;)). I thought that was twenty-seven times every minute? <This weeks homework was on twisting shafts!> LOL <<>: ...and?> And my interest in Queen Isabella. I don't know, it could also be the fact that the opening sequence in "The Last Crusade" takes place off the Portuguese coast. More answers simply raise more questions... <At Seybold I saw a 170 GB RAID array.> Le faint ;) <If I ever visit you, I am SO bringing my friend> Your friend's a cradle-robber? <But I did come to that conclusion> Pretty good conclusion for third-party thinking, then ;) <Yeah, that one. That's better than hard drive space> Well, the bigger the hard drive, the more babes you could plea...uh, nevermind. <Bummer. I'll never let you drive, then.> But with contact lenses my vision is corrected to 20/20. <I'm sorry, but does anyone else think that a woman TELLING you she has PMS is pretty much a reason to discredit her?> Perhaps not discredit, but at least ignore. It's hard to accept a person's (this also applies to men in general; if you guys think about sex so often, how can we *ever* take you seriously? ;)) logic if they're being ruled by those monthly raging hormones. Better to have the opposite party not know that little bump in the biological cycle...then they won't know when to suspect ;) For the love of...why?!?!?!? <how many physics classes require you to measure the loss of head due to the use of an orifice plate?> ROTFL!!! At least our classes are *openly* perverse ;) <Then I have some very important questions about finding the basis of a row space> Ugh. More vectors...was that one comment a ray of amusement in a regularly bland class? <Yes, we just got back from seeing Rammestein and System of a Down> ** Whimpers ** There's _nothing_ around here! Or at least, not that I know about. I'll have to check the convention center times and dates. At least Austin's band will keep us busy for a while, but I need something just a tad more mainstream ;) <Mike punched some guy in the face> Go, Mike!!! <I'm not built for moshing> Neither am I, but that didn't stop the guys last week from some freakin' hard-core *groping* ;) <My mom is still out of work (going on 5 months now) and my dad's business isn't doing very well. Hopefully the model-building is keeping my dad's stress level low> Here's hoping for the fam, then...for their sakes AS WELL AS yours ;)

Adios gang!
Niamhgold
Saturday, September 29, 2001 08:44:08 AM
IP: 206.41.204.140

For those who are wondering, yes, I do run on solar batteries.

Patrick> >I knew I could find ONE small thing good about the Taliban if I thought about it long enough.< *l*

Lynati> >I think I must be the only person in history to beg her parents to send her to Auschwitz.< Can't say that anybody I know has ever asked for that. ;)

Greg> >I must be the only person who hasn't watched the pilot for the new Star Trek series.< Nope, I haven't seen it either.

Christine> >may _explain_ behavior, it doesn't necessarily _excuse_ it< Shhh! Don't let the secret out!!

Carolynn> >No, no, not about JK Rowling's name, I meant "Hedwig", Harry's owl. What's 'Hedwig' mean?< Opps! I don't know about that one. If it helps, I chucked into into one of those baby-name things (I am hopeless at naming my characters, so I've got a couple bookmarked - and gotten quite a few odd looks when people have seen me using them :)). It's teutonic for 'battling', German for 'strife' and Swedish for 'peace in battle'. >Probably burn an effigy of Puck for "wearing women's clothing" :) The World's First Transvestite Sprite! Whoohoo!< ROTFL! Wonder what they'd do to Brooklyn? :)

SJ> >Yes, but my point is that, as long as the Taliban government is still in charge, whatever money is given to the "refugees" will no doubt somehow filter its way into the Taliban's hands.< Tell you what, SJ, how about you and me launch our own attack on the Taliban. Between the two of us, that blood lust of yours should be well and truly sated. :) >Which means that any money given to the "refugees" could very conceivably be turned right around and used against us in a terrorist operation.< Good point. I guess Angie was just too busy making her little blood-pendants to think of that.

Gside> >You might want to check your essay.< Already done that. I got smartarse in a prac report, and got a 'Please use language you would find in a journal article when writing reports'. *rolls eyes* no sense of humour... >Then what about SOROW?< The exception that proves the rule. >I have the power.< But will you use it for good or evil? >He's originally a linguistics professor from MIT who essentially reinvented the study, but he's since gone on to champion just about every liberal crusade imaginable.< oooh! B*tchfights between academics are fun!!

SOROW> > But things are looking up cause it seems that my long studying paid off, I think I aced my tests today.< yea!

Dark Prince of Vinyl> >Apparently, my friend Zach had the brilliant idea that toga parties would go great with pimps-n-hoes parties< You know, that idea has... merits. >Or do what I do: don't take classes that require essays.< That's what I thought I'd done by skipping the Arts subjects. >I've got to tell my dad you keep calling me that.< And I can only imagine his reaction when you say 'Dad, there's this girl who keeps calling me the Dark Prince of Vinyl' ;) >I never say that. I know what happened. I say "Why the !@#$ did that just happen?"< Which is why you're not a PC-using office worker. >I'll ask again in a week.< Ask again in a month. I will be finished for the semester on November 1st... if, of course, I make it that far. >Wrong again. My roommate doesn't drink.< Mental note: Watch what I say around Josh and Gside. They take things FAR too literally. >Welcome to war, where civilians pay the price for governmental arrogance.No comments...< Aw, and here I was hoping you'd tell us what YOU call it. (JOKE!!) >Lucky devil.< Very. >heh. We'll just drive her nuts with counterexamples.< So that's what your plan is... :P

TTFN!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Saturday, September 29, 2001 05:41:58 AM
IP: proxy1.mel.pacific.net.au

Jeez I'm tired.

I woke up today for class. That was my first mistake. My next was actually GOING. I could have gotten away with not waking up until 11, but nooooo. I had to be motivated to go to review sessions and stuff before my midterm.

I'm really starting to enjoy my fluid mechanics class. Aside from all the gratuitous perverse language (how many physics classes require you to measure the loss of head due to the use of an orifice plate?), we spend every Friday lecture watching movies about the subject matter. Today's movie was a documentary about lake depletion around the country. Not too interesting, but better than a lecture on the proper use of Bernoulli's Equation.

I heard this interesting quote from my Math TA today: "I don't want you to think of 5 as half of 10."

The response from one of my classmates: "Then I have some very important questions about finding the basis of a row space."

If you get that, then you've obviously taken this class. If you LAUGH, you're as big a dweeb as I am.

Immediately after class we (Mike, Vinay, and I) got into Mike's car and drove to San Jose. The reason? CONCERT!

Yes, we just got back from seeing Rammestein and System of a Down. The actual line-up was Mudvayne, Rammestein, System of a Down, and Slipknot. But Slipknot (the main act) sucks and Mudvayne isn't a real band anyway. So we basically paid $40 each to see opening bands. That was a new one for me.

Mosh pits left and right, as to be expected. I'm not built for moshing (which is probably why everyone talks about kicking my but so much), but apparently Mike punched some guy in the face. On purpose. Go Mike! Show those trendy 14-year-old dorks who's really hardcore!

The good news is that the two bands I was there for were so good live that I didn't feel gypped at all.

I didn't spend any money on concert stuff, which leaves me in the unique position among my friends of not having a single shirt for any band. At least not one that I'd wear in public.

So that was my day. The concert ruled. I even saw some eye candy, which is nice for a change.

I called home yesterday and talked to my dad and my bro. My mom is still out of work (going on 5 months now) and my dad's business isn't doing very well. Hopefully the model-building is keeping my dad's stress level low. Mom is using her "new" powerbook to do presentations for potential customers (she's sort of started her own consulting company with a friend of hers). Alex got moved up in math tracks at school so now he's in the top class (chip of the ol' block!) and he tackling algebra. He's also enjoying his computer and learning lots about it, and always asking me to get him this or that piece of software. I was right: buying him a computer has been a great conduit for us to bond.

In other great news, I got my boss to give me the next two weekends off so I could study for midterms. The bad news: I have to study for midterms.

Tomorrow I'll be going to UCSC for a "toga-ho" party. Apparently, my friend Zach had the brilliant idea that toga parties would go great with pimps-n-hoes parties (this is a college thing, don't ask). But every guy having to get a suit is expensive, so he eliminated the "pimps" part. This should be...interesting.

TGS STAFF: Hey, maybe you should post a little thing at the end of each season that says "That's all for now folks! We'll start working on next season next fall/summer/spring/whatever". Then people would stop nagging.

Anyway, enough of that. On to replies!

Spot: <>: And that's why I save mine separately in another application. <<don't write essays and posts at the same time>>: Or do what I do: don't take classes that require essays. <<Dark Prince of Vinyl (since you like the name so much>>: I've got to tell my dad you keep calling me that. <<Especially since I'll probably be frothing with rage at the time>>: That explains a lot. <>: I guess you missed that one. <<you're a twenty year old with an addiction to the red cans... I'm beginning to suspect that you are actually the clone of my brother, not SJ>>: Considering I don't know your brother, I'm inclined to disagree. <>: Yeah, we're a small fraction of computer users. Naturally we hope that will change, but frankly we're not betting on it. But we're not betting on going extinct either. <<Mac users generally seem to know what they're doing>>: I doubt that's true. The same percentage of mac powers exist as PC power users. The other 95% of users of ANY platform are morons. <<What the *$ just happened?>>: I never say that. I know what happened. I say "Why the !@#$ did that just happen?" <<I'm sorry to say that Bezerkly isn't the only campus with idiots on it>>: Well I'm certainly not sorry to hear it. I'd be bummed if I came to the best civil engineering program in the country only to discover it was surrounded by the only population of college-age idiots. <<ducks the flying rotten fruit... and false teeth.. and walking frames>>: LOL. <<You overestimate my ability to be funny and creative while drowning in 'viral evasion of the immune system>>: I'll ask again in a week. <<Getting drunk and being stupid at least once is what everybody except the CR dwellers do at college>>: Wrong again. My roommate doesn't drink. <<My brains are melting and dribbling out my ears to escape the horror>>: Such lovely imagery. <<Yet they've got dozens of international aid workers in jail because they're 'forcing christianity onto the citizen' or some other BS>>: Right where we SHOULD keep them! <<The good reverend better be careful, one word about God and those psychos will lock him up and throw away the key>>: I can only pray... <<they're innocent, and unfortunately, they're going to have to pay for something other people have done>>: Welcome to war, where civilians pay the price for governmental arrogance. <<sweet spot' (love that name, BTW>>: No comments... <<Somedays, I love my life>>: Lucky devil.

Patrick: <<If Martin Sheen was President and the Joint Chiefs were Schwartzeneggar, Stallone, Seagal, and Willis, we'd have definitely seen a nuclear detonation by now>>: Or twelve. <<it just occurred that this translates to there being no "boy bands" there, too. I knew I could find ONE small thing good about the Taliban if I thought about it long enough>>: You are so right.

Lynati: <>: LOL! That's hysterical. Were your parents just not supportive because of the price?

Greg X: <<Have no desire to see it>>: If my friends hadn't be all up on it, I probably would have skipped it. <<Ivanova could kick Janeway's ass out an airlock easily>>: Anyone could kick Janeway's butt out an airlock. She's lame. <<we could send the Boy Bands and Britney Spears and the rest of them to Afghanastan to play a special concert just so we could be rid of them. Let the Taliban do a service to us before we wipe them off the planet>>: I'm sure a bunch of Americans would bitch about that. After all, the reason its "pop" is because most of the country likes them. <<How did you find us?>>: Random Website Generator (TM).

Smut Pandering Bitch Queen of All Creation: <<may explain behavior, it doesn't necessarily excuse it>>: THANK YOU! FINALLY A WOMAN SAYS IT. People will use anything to excuse their behavior, to not take responsibility for it. Welcome to America, where we are not responsible for our actions. Of course my joke about refusing to accept responsibility for anything is just that: a joke.

Carolynn Marie: <<invite a bunch of modeling students>>: I'm an engineer. How many models do you think I know? <<Pass me the trick-or-treat bag>>: So you can puke in it? <<Everyone I know loved Gladiator>>: It was a total man-movie.

Joanne: <<when seson 4 will be coming out>>: Never.

Tim: <<A half dozen "Fairy" jokes come to mind>>: Yeah, yeah.

Anonymous: <<Martin Luther King was probably the greatest pacifist in American history, a man who was stoned and beaten, yet never raised a hand to retaliate>>: And he was shot. Oh, and one more thing: POST YOUR NAME YOU LITTLE PANSY-ASS TROLL.

DPH: <>: There's a very good reason for that: I haven't been to the bank recently to deposit checks. I should do it tomorrow...I hope. Don't worry, I'll get you your software. I promise. <<all checks can't be cleared within a maximum 72 hour period>>: Out of state checks take a while, even with my trustworthy bank account. By Wednesday it should have cleared. <<What is up with spelling 'cool' 'kewl'>>: Its for lame retards. <<Guess what I am referring to>>: My color picker?

FS: <<...is the language of the future>>: That is so not funny.

Sevarius Jr: <<it's all a conspiracy to upset me>>: I'd think you were already there. <<and we won't bomb them at all>>: I'm betting on a sniper war. You'd enjoy that. It'd be all quiet, yet they'd be dying. <<the SJ Presidential approval rating for Bush is dropping fast>>: Can you imagine what would happen if there was a democrat in office? <>: Forget being my clone, my dad would rather have YOU for a son. <<they've made it known that Special Forces teams are over in Afghanistan right now, looking for Bin Laden>>: Boy are they gonna look stupid if he's not there. <<Angelina Jolie just bought someone a cropduster>>: So true. Are all democrats this incapable of figuring out useful ways to spend money!? <>: Didn't he just have a child out of wedlock with some woman? I wouldn't want any attention if I were him. <<if I ever find the…..um, *escort*….who did it, she's dead>>: NEVER allow a hooker to tie you up. Even if she comes highly recommended. 514 Rules for Men. <<The Old School Starscream would eat these punks for breakfast>>: And he was a TOTAL pussy. <<First Contact was the best Trek movie EVER MADE!>>: No, IV was ten times better. <<Everyone remember how fun that argument was?>>: Nope. <<Being a bastard WORKS>>: Damn straight!

Gside: <>: More like "you haven't". ECE majors. <<Always>>: Could you be more specific? <<it wasn't your biceps or thighs that were swolen>>: How did you know that? <>: Good philosophy. I should learn to do that so I can be less stressed. <<Only 10 gigs? You poor deprived child>>: It'd be 25 if I hadn't fried my external hard drive. Fortunately I periodically synchronize my collection with my friend, so I've got a backup in LA. <<That you'd like to give her reason to apply the prefix Mack to your current nickname>>; How about just "mac". She'll add that if I ask her. Hell, she'd add "Mack" if I asked. <<It's my hobby>>: One of many, I'm sure. <<You might want to check your essay>>: Yeah, who knows what she's said about the subject material? <<Then what about SOROW?>>: heh. We'll just drive her nuts with counterexamples. <<everyone's too lazy>>: email is for people with time. <>: My friends and I were arguing about whether "N" should be "|\|" or |V"

Ishamel founded my people. F*ck Issac.
-Matteen

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, September 29, 2001 04:06:05 AM
IP: adsl-64-170-152-251.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

A comic that predicted the future.
Fire Storm
Saturday, September 29, 2001 03:28:36 AM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Coyote> Happy belated birthday hon!
Sorry I wasn't in the best of moods last time I was here, but it has been a really long week. But things are looking up cause it seems that my long studying paid off, I think I aced my tests today. And I went to see Zoolander: SEE IT! IT'S HILARIOUS!
SOROW - [allison.abadie@mail.utexas.edu]
Saturday, September 29, 2001 01:50:37 AM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

Let me paint a picture for you...

It's a beautiful 27C degrees, and you can feel your sun-bunny soul coming out of hibernation. The only clouds are the white fluffy variety that make a nice contrast to the blue. It's the third Saturday in September, otherwise known as 'Grand Final Saturday', not that you really care, since your care factor for Football is almost a negative number, but it is relevant. You go into work, and the boss tells you that because a) it's not a competition this week and b) nobody is going to be on the golf course after 2pm, you'll be going home early. Like, really early. FOUR HOURS EARLY. Also because it is Grand Final Saturday, the drive home is really easy because, to quote the boss, 'All the bogans are inside. It's a bogan-free zone!'. There's a hammock, a long tall glass of something cool, and a pair of sunglasses featuring prominently in your future.

Somedays, I love my life. :)
I will come back when the sun's gone down and post properly. I just wanted to share that with you all. :D
Fleur
Saturday, September 29, 2001 01:32:51 AM
IP: proxy3.mel.pacific.net.au

Imzadi> <<It's really not that impressive>>: I thought it was.
<<I've showered since>>: I wouldn't.
<<Or gains three>>: No, then the games get better.
<<Was it something I said?>>: Always.
<<That happened to me just the other day>>: But it wasn't your biceps or thighs that were swolen.
<<Were you in my apartment that you could tell?>>: Well you mentioned your local heat, and I remember being rather cold for a good half hour.
<<Bet you regret that, huh?>>: I would've been happier if I had, but I don't feel like it worth wasting a regret.
<<Ewww, suck>>: At least it was Sannuti, so I could sleep.
<<10 gigs just isn't cutting it for me>>: Only 10 gigs? You poor deprived child.
<<What are you implying?>>: That you'd like to give her reason to apply the prefix Mack to your current nickname.
<<You've already confirmed several>>: It's my hobby.

Fleur> <<don't write essays and posts at the same time>>: You might want to check your essay.
<<Getting drunk and being stupid at least once is what everybody except the CR dwellers do at college>>: Then what about SOROW?
<<My brains are melting and dribbling out my ears to escape the horror>>: I have the power.
<<Who's Noam Chomsky and what does he do>>: He's originally a linguistics professor from MIT who essentially reinvented the study, but he's since gone on to champion just about every liberal crusade imaginable.

Greg> <>: Nope. Right here, and I'm even a geek.

Joanne> <<could you please e-mail me>>: Sorry, everyone's too lazy.

Fire Storm> <<$cr|p7 k|dd|>>: I thought it was officially 1337.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:39:09 AM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

PSEUDO-War Update: Well, it's all a conspiracy to upset me. Cause now they're talking about how now strikes will happen soon and I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that Bush today said this is a war that might not see any conventional means being used. In other words, they killed thousands of us, and we won't bomb them at all. My level of cynicism is growing, and the SJ Presidential approval rating for Bush is dropping fast. I'm sure that, in the near future, it'll reach into the negative numbers. And hell, I voted for the schmuck.

Of course, to make all of us feel like they're actually doing something (when, in fact, they are not), they've made it known that Special Forces teams are over in Afghanistan right now, looking for Bin Laden. This is supposed to make us feel all warm inside.
They conveniently neglect to mention the fact that these very SF teams were already in Afghanistan BEFORE the 11th. And that all they're pretty much doing right now is recon.

I'm sorry, I SUPPOSE I should be content to just sit by and trust the government, but the fact of the matter is that I don't. My bloodthirst is pretty strong right now, and I'm not really going to be too happy until I see some bombs dropped over that wasteland of a country. That will put a smile on my face.
And I don't think that wanting prompt retaliation is too much to ask. Because the longer we go not doing anything, the more complacent and less helpful all of our "allies" become.

Plus there's the concern that the terrorists will strike again before we do anything. That's a real thought, and at the turtle pace we seem to be moving, I'd bet even money that some other sort of terrorist attack occurs to us before we've even done anything remotely retaliatory towards the Al-Qaeda.

Which brings me to my point about Angelina Jolie.

Fleur: <> Yes, but my point is that, as long as the Taliban government is still in charge, whatever money is given to the "refugees" will no doubt somehow filter its way into the Taliban's hands. Who sponsored the terrorists who did this to us. Which means that any money given to the "refugees" could very conceivably be turned right around and used against us in a terrorist operation. I was listening to a radio program this week when I heard the Jolie news, and I believe one caller summed it up best: "Angelina Jolie just bought someone a cropduster."

Jesse Jackson: Now I'm hearing talk about how the Taliban may have never even contacted him. I know our government didn't contact him. He's not certain if he's going to go. I'm not certain I really care.
I could rant here, but I'll just settle for saying that, as someone with a big ego, even I find it a bit repulsive that a supreme egotist like Jesse would pull off a stunt like this just to get his name in the paper. But I guess that, for some, attention is everything.

Jannie: <> I think they're just being pussies. Drop the f'in bombs already! <<Also, I heard the complete quote that Bush made, "I'm not going to send a $10 million missile to destroy a $10 tent and go up a camel's butt.">> Big words. So far, it looks more like the appropriate quote is "I'm not going to send a $10 million missile to destroy anything." <<We had the pleasure of meeting the Incredible Hulk today.>> Did he tell you, "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry"? <<The next thing he knew, he woke up in field with his clothes ripped in shreds and his biceps and thighs swollen...>> That happened to me once.
And if I ever find the…..um, *escort*….who did it, she's dead. HULK SMASH PUNY HUMAN!!!

DPH: <<2nd, does anyone in this room think this series does not suck?>> I'm with the "It sucks" camp. I was all set for a cool new Transformers 'toon. One from Japan, no less. I figured, the Japanese have done some remarkable stuff in the past, this should be good, right? God, what a crapfest. Horrible dialogue, juvenile storytelling, uninteresting characters, ugly character design (even the Beast Wars bots looked better than this)….it's a big disappointment all around. I feel like I'm watching "Mighty Morphing Power Transformers". Here in D.C., they air the show weekdays at 2:30 p.m. If that's the time-slot you're stuck with, I suggest you just turn the channel over to Comedy Central and watch the excellent "Kids in the Hall", it's a far superior way to waste your half-hour.
I agree with you: what the hell is up with the villains? My philosophy is that, regardless of your hero, it's the villain that makes or breaks the show. So far, I've only seen like a half-dozen villains, and all are just soooo retarded. The Old School Starscream would eat these punks for breakfast.

Entity: <<I've divorced myself from the franchise after "Voyager" and "First Contact.">> What are you talking about?? First Contact was the best Trek movie EVER MADE!!!
I'm sorry, I'm just reminiscing. Everyone remember how fun that argument was? ;)

Greg: <<And Ivanova could kick Janeway's ass out an airlock easily.>> Oh God. I'd bet money in Vegas that Ivanova could take out the entire Voyager crew, with one arm tied behind her back.
Hell, I'd bet that even Vir could take Harry "Hi! I'm the Asian Wesley Crusher!" Kim's ass out.

"Being a bastard WORKS."
--- Spider Jerusalem

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Saturday, September 29, 2001 12:01:12 AM
IP: 66-44-61-226.s480.tnt4.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

DPH: Kewl r00lz! ;)
$cr|p7 k|dd|3 is the language of the future!
Fire Storm
Friday, September 28, 2001 11:42:19 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Anonymous - please stop being anonymous and use a name. If you forget to type your name in, follow the post with an identification of yourself.

**DPH glares at the more senior members of the TGS staff and decides the answer to joanne's question does not need to be repeated by himself AGAIN for now.**

BTW, I didn't hear anything about Jesse Jackson's reaction to 9-11-2001. Did I miss something?

green baron - can you supply me with your information on the Pilgrims? I'm sure that you believe that the SBC has gotten a little too right.

Imzadi - I checked today. I noticed my check to you hadn't cleared. I don't understand why (in this age of the internet) all checks can't be cleared within a maximum 72 hour period.

Todd - Here's a question right up your ally. What is up with spelling 'cool' 'kewl'? Next thing you know, they'll be adding 'kewl' to the dictionary.

you know, I could OSHA in on my last place of employment. Unless I'm guessing wrong they were violating way too codes (inadequate walking space, nobody knows the proper fire escape route just to name the obvious). I'm serious. Not one employee that I asked knew the fire escape route. Even at employee orientation, I was not told the proper fire escape route.

**DPH notices his ULTRAHEAVY has been untouched. What, everybody's too chicken to try to fly it?**

Black is black and white is white. But they are darker whites and lighter blacks. If we switch to a different point of view, it's 100% black or 100% white..<--Guess what I am referring to.

Just a few more hours until I destroy my first yahoo group. Oh well.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Friday, September 28, 2001 11:03:41 PM
IP: max1-44.cwy.cei.net

Peaceniks usually right, but not
now

Chances are, you've never heard of Jeanette Rankin. It was
immediately after the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor that she
became, for a moment, famous. Or maybe the word is, infamous.

Congress was in session to consider a declaration of war. For most
Americans, this was little more than a formality. Before the attack,
there had been a lively peace movement in this country -- people
determined, at all costs, to keep the U.S. out of the conflagration in
Europe. Afterward, the hue and cry everywhere was for war.

So it was something of a surprise when Rankin, a Republican
representative from Montana, cast the lone vote in opposition. Her
dissent so outraged onlookers that an angry mob chased the
committed pacifist through the corridors of the Capitol, finally
cornering her in a phone booth. Only police intervention allowed her
to safely escape.

I've always liked Jeanette Rankin. Always appreciated the lonely
courage of her stand.

Something like that stand is beginning to emerge in the wake of
Sept. 11. As the country cries out for war, peace rallies have broken
out on college campuses nationwide. There have been ecclesiastical
statements urging against military action. Social activists like Harry
Belafonte and Rosa Parks are questioning the wisdom of retaliation.
And a letter making the rounds on the Internet urges America to
``bomb'' Afghanistan with butter, rice and other staples the starving
poor of that wretched country find in short supply.

Some in the peace movement simply oppose an indiscriminate
military campaign that cannot help but target innocent civilians along
with the thugs who have hijacked their country -- an argument with
which I have no quarrel. But others crusade against any military
response, period. For them, as for Jeanette Rankin, I suppose, no
provocation ever justifies the use of force.

I couldn't disagree with that assertion more. Yet I'm pleased to hear it
nonetheless. And no, there's not a punch line lurking in that
contradiction.

These are troubling times. We've just seen more than 6,000 human
lives obliterated, one iconic building grievously damaged and two
others destroyed. The people want retribution. We are as united in
that as we have ever been in anything.

There's righteousness in that demand. There's also a certain danger.
When emotions are this raw, it's easy for a crowd to become a mob,
for them to slip across from justified outrage to unthinking fury. It's
easy -- too easy -- to lose any sense of perspective, any claim on
the moral high ground, any restraining shred of human reasoning. Not
surprisingly, you can already see signs of it happening. Some have
said we ought to turn Afghanistan into the proverbial parking lot.
Some have said we ought to use nuclear weapons. Some have used
their pain and anger as excuses to visit violence upon fellow
Americans who are -- or simply ``look'' -- Arab.

Terrible things can happen when passion is unhindered by reason.
So the counterweight the peace movement provides is a valuable
one. But at the same time, the argument that violence is never
justified is spurious at best.

Martin Luther King was probably the greatest pacifist in American
history, a man who was stoned and beaten, yet never raised a hand
to retaliate. Yet even he acknowledged that there were times violence
was necessary. If called to service in the Second World War, he said
in a 1967 sermon, ``I believe that I would have temporarily sacrificed
my pacifism because Hitler was such an evil force in history.''

Most Americans are not pacifists, but we are lovers of peace. You'd
never know it from our popular entertainment, but we abhor war. Yet
the ugly truth is that sometimes, war cannot be avoided. Sometimes,
history demands that aggrieved people draw an uncrossable line.

This is one of those times. Otherwise, what comes next? We've
already been hit with stolen planes. Is the next hit chemical?
Biological? Nuclear? How many lives will that cost? How many
families and towns wiped away?

The nascent peace movement will be the necessary conscience of
the mob in days to come, and that's a good thing.

But most of us understand -- as King did, and as British Prime
Minister Neville Chamberlain famously learned -- that sometimes, the
cost of peace is too high. Sometimes, peace costs more than war.

I like Jeanette Rankin. But she was wrong.
Anonymous
Friday, September 28, 2001 07:36:52 PM
IP: aui-tx9a-214.rasserver.net

Carolynn Marie: <<Puck for "wearing women's clothing" :) The World's First Transvestite Sprite! >> A half dozen "Fairy" jokes come to mind. But out of courtesy, I won't mention them. Unless if you want me to...

[Evil chuckle] Oohh... I'M SUCH A NAUGHTY BOY!
Tim
Friday, September 28, 2001 04:24:07 PM
IP: wsc0072.wsc.edu

Carolynn Marie: <<Puck for "wearing women's clothing" :) The World's First Transvestite Sprite! >> A half dozen "Fairy" jokes come to mind come to mind. But out of courtesy, I won't mention them. Unless if you want me to...

[Evil chuckle] Oohh... I'M SUCH A NAUGHTY BOY!
Tim
Friday, September 28, 2001 04:22:54 PM
IP: wsc0072.wsc.edu

i was just wondering when seson 4 will be coming out because im a big fan and i love the work your all doing . could you please e-mail me and tell me. thank you in advance joanne
joanne - [jczoe1@yahoo.com]
irelandFriday, September 28, 2001 03:41:46 PM
IP: inktomi1-dub.server.ntl.com

JOSH< <<X-rated bout of spin-the-bottle>>: I thought that game WAS x-rated. >>

Damn, man, I haven't actually played since like 6th grade :) Then again, young kids are growing up awfully fast nowadays ... my 8th grade sister just informed there's a pregnant 12 year old in her school ... that's 7th grade, folks.

<>

Take precautions: invite a bunch of modeling students over and make slamming shots (our slang for jello shots that's more vodka than jello ;D). And at any rate, it's better than the current holiday: I hated it even when celebrating it with my ex cuz you have to buy each other gifts and crap and all this pressure to have a wonderful, lovvy day. Gah. Pass me the trick-or-treat bag ;)

FLEUR< No, no, not about JK Rowling's name, I meant "Hedwig", Harry's owl. What's 'Hedwig' mean? Though that's a curious tidbit about Rowling herself ...

I'm so excited: this fall, we got Harry and LOTR: finally, two good things to come out of Hollywood (what was the last Hollywood movie in the last year or two that didn't suck? Everyone I know loved Gladiator ... call me crazy, but I hated it and always loved the '59 Ben-Hur).

<<The one that disgusts me the most, (aside from their icky hair thing) is the fact that no representation of the human form is allowed. Which cuts out posters, TV, movies, photographs, the lot. Kids aren't even allowed to play with dolls. I wonder what they'd think of Gargoyles action figures? >>

Probably burn an effigy of Puck for "wearing women's clothing" :) The World's First Transvestite Sprite! Whoohoo!

CRZY< *waggles a chocolate frog in your face to cheer you up* I'm sorry. I hope she feels better. My grandmother had lung cancer a few years ago, and after surgery she was fine, so don't give up hope. And that was after 17 years of smoking three packs a day. Hang in there! And go talk to your gran :) It'll cheer her up.

Anyway, for all you Tolkien fans, click on the link; the orcs are pretty damn cool! And supposedly the director's going all out for accuracy, even having the elves speaking Elvish and using English subtitles. Gotta love those movies where folks walk around with different accents yet still speaking English and pretending not to understand what the other's saying (ie. Captain Corelli's Mandolin). Anyway, click on my name:
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Friday, September 28, 2001 03:41:30 PM
IP: pc169-8.drew.edu

Enterprise > I haven't seen it yet either; taped it Wednesday night and wound up being too busy yesterday (plus, then of course it was Thursday and I had to watch ER and be reminded once more how HOT Luka is, how much a cutie Carter is, and how much Abby annoys me and it's so damn unfair that she has the two sexiest guys in the show fighting over her). Will try to watch it tonight, though I'm treating myself to a movie. Hearts in Atlantis, even though it was another Dark Tower thing (and the movie's misnamed at that; it was the title of the _book_ but not the story they put on film, oh well). Anyway, Enterprise. I'm optimistic and my boss, who's got a major thing for Bakula, will probably be in a fantastic mood henceforth. ; )

Crzy > I know it'd be rough, but I think you should go see her. She'll probably understand, and might rather see her loved ones than be left alone. Or call, ask if she's up to receiving visitors, let it be her decision, maybe.

Josh > well, thanks for the low estimate! ; )

PMS > at the risk of enraging the ladies, especially those at that crucial time, let's just remember that while it (or any other condition from hangover to outright mental illness) may _explain_ behavior, it doesn't necessarily _excuse_ it (this is why it's really a bad idea for me to work in the field I'm in ...)

Jan > Incredible Hulk? Well, now, that's a new one even for me. Closest I've seen was a kid so grandiose that he couldn't go to school, take martial arts lessons, or do anything because he was already "so naturally good" at it all that there was no point. Oh, and he had super-heightened senses, too. How that went along with him being the winner of the Harbor House Stinkiest Room Award three months running is beyond me ...

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, September 28, 2001 01:29:57 PM
IP: 17-022.075.popsite.net

I must be the only person who hasn't watched the pilot for the new Star Trek series. Haven't seen it. Have no desire to see it. This is a franchise I gave up on years ago, when they started ripping off "Babylon 5"... and doing a bad job of it (how anyone could screw up stealing material from a Sci-Fi masterpiece is beyond me). I'm still fond the the movies, the original series and the Next Generation, but the rest could have every copy, negative, recording etc fall into an incinerator and I wouldn't care. Oh well, if I hear the new series is good after the first half of the season, I may tune in. Till then, I'm not expecting much from it.

And Ivanova could kick Janeway's ass out an airlock easily. And that's my fanboy comment for the day ;)

JEN> Sorry to hear about your grandmother. My very best goes out to the two of you.

PATRICK> Hmm, we could send the Boy Bands and Britney Spears and the rest of them to Afghanastan to play a special concert just so we could be rid of them. Let the Taliban do a service to us before we wipe them off the planet.

JAN> You don't know much about "Gargoyles"? How did you find us? Sorry, just curious.
Greg Bishansky
Friday, September 28, 2001 11:16:57 AM
IP: slip-32-103-122-98.ny.us.prserv.net

*enters briefly*
random complaining:
D@#%. I was hoping my dad would be more supportive of this. three birds with one stone; I get to travel through Europe, AND get two much-needed credits for school. Not to mention the sites.
...I think I must be the only person in history to beg her parents to send her to Auschwitz.
That just sounds strange, even in my own head.
Hey, Aaron, can I borrow about 4,000 dollars? I promise to pay you back by the time I'm ready to post my Stories... Yeah, didn't think so. :P Heh.

I have a test to study for and an insurance adjuster to wait for. I'll be around later.
*Brushes out through the fabric gate*
Lynati
Friday, September 28, 2001 10:13:54 AM
IP: 205.184.191.144

Crzy - Sorry to hear about your grandmother. I'll be praying for both of you.:: HUGS ::

SJ - Getting a little impatient for the part where stuff blows up to finally happen? I think we all are... it's probably got something to do with being raised on action movies. If Martin Sheen was President and the Joint Chiefs were Schwartzeneggar, Stallone, Seagal, and Willis, we'd have definitely seen a nuclear detonation by now. :P

Re: Taliban - I'd heard that there's no music allowed in Afghanistan. But it just occurred that this translates to there being no "boy bands" there, too. I knew I could find ONE small thing good about the Taliban if I thought about it long enough.

Re: Jesse Jackson - Oh yes... we simply cannot go on until he gives us a nice rhyming Dr. Suess speech. "We must have a PLAN to deal with the TaliBAN in AfghanisTAN..."

Patrick Toman
Friday, September 28, 2001 08:09:24 AM
IP: dsl081-009-210.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net

I had most of this post done, then I lost it. Not even sure if it was something I did (warning: don't write essays and posts at the same time) or DC's fault.

Dark Prince of Vinyl (since you like the name so much ;))> >That won't look good on the rabies test.< Especially since I'll probably be frothing with rage at the time ;) >That should be the motto for the CR.< That was what fed the Creativity demons >But are you down with the sickness?< Well, I certainly feel queesy... >I hope to miss that one.< Ah, but will you take part in the tormenting of drunken friends? >My roommate and I eat through 8 flats of soda in about 3 weeks. That's 8x24 cans.< Let's see, you're a twenty year old with an addiction to the red cans... I'm beginning to suspect that you are actually the clone of my brother, not SJ >The various surveys put it somewhere between 8% and 5%.< Whoa. I thought I'd UNDERestimated it. >I know this. But you also have to understand that viruses are much easier to write for Windows because of all the security holes in Outlook, which the vast majority of windows users use for their email.< And the fact that Mac users generally seem to know what they're doing, unlike many PC users (especially the office ones) who sit there going 'What the *&#$ just happened?' ;) >Too much info for me.< Brace yourself: This isn't one of those female-only rules. The Taliban have a hair fetish. >Yeah, but who the hell wants to go there?< HEY! Watch it, or you'll release my raging patriot. I don't want to do that, because if I said that my country was the best, apparently that means terrorists are justified in trying to kill me (I'm sorry to say that Bezerkly isn't the only campus with idiots on it - they've invaded Monash as well). >But if it were dropped on a city...millions of children would die. And me. And that would suck.< Hence it's utter uselessness as a biological weapon. Choose one that kills the oldies! *ducks the flying rotten fruit... and false teeth.. and walking frames.. ;)* (I think I'm going to die for that one. JOKING! REALLY!) >Nice song, but you forgot to write something funny about all the regular posters!< You overestimate my ability to be funny and creative while drowning in 'viral evasion of the immune system'.

Robby> >Since I'm to blame for the tune getting stuck in your head, perhaps this'll help.< That depends on your definition of help ;), but at least it helped me put all those random lines floating through my head into some order.

Spacebabie> Get well soon. Better yet, use all that stuff at once, then sit back and watch the walls melt. ;)

Carolynn Marie> >I was reading in Time today that you can be arrested for listening to pop music (Hey, it ain't THAT bad!! Well, that's up for debate ... but ... *g*).< *g* The one that disgusts me the most, (aside from their icky hair thing) is the fact that no representation of the human form is allowed. Which cuts out posters, TV, movies, photographs, the lot. Kids aren't even allowed to play with dolls. I wonder what they'd think of Gargoyles action figures? >I always thought JK Rowlig mad that name up. Is there a meaning behind it?< It's her real name, but the publishers thought boys wouldn't be interested in reading books by a woman. *shrugs* Go figure.

Gside> >So far, I've opted out.< Well, there goes THAT theory. Let me rephrase: Getting drunk and being stupid at least once is what everybody except the CR dwellers do at college. ;) >I have another to add to the front: hermaphroditic. Yes, I have seen it.< My brains are melting and dribbling out my ears to escape the horror. >I do attempt to keep all my individual words at a decent level.< *g* I know, but I couldn't think of anything that rhymes with 'dispensors', I was writing this and an immunology essay at the same time, and 'Herpes Simplex Viruses (HSV) produce ICP47, an 87-residue protein that blocks TAP-mediated peptide transport' just doesn't have the same ring to it. ;)

SOROW> >This has just been a really bad week so I don't have anything really exciting to say< *hugs*. I hope things improve.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY COYOTE!!

SJ> >The Taliban wants to speak with Jesse Jackson.< Yet they've got dozens of international aid workers in jail because they're 'forcing christianity onto the citizen' or some other BS. The good reverend better be careful, one word about God and those psychos will lock him up and throw away the key. >Cause we Americans don't need the help, why not give some money to the very people who caused this tragedy?< You're right about the first bit (look after your own people first, baby, THEY didn't go to all your movies and earn you that money!), but I guess we totally disagree when it comes to the Afghanistan people. My take is, they're innocent, and unfortunately, they're going to have to pay for something other people have done. They're no more responsible for this than you are for what Timothy McVeigh did. I know you don't feel that way, and since it wasn't my country, I'm not going to try to change your mind.

Green Baron> >I doubt everyone will carry a gun on a plane, but teh fact that it si possible will deter terrorists, plus it can't be worse than what happended on 9-11. >yes, they are a perverted bunch of creeps.< Spacebabie thought we should kick them in the 'sweet spot' (love that name, BTW). When it comes to the Taliban, I'm all for just ripping it out by the roots. *Here's a fun thing for everybody to do - mention the Taliban and watch Fleur start ranting.* The horrible irony is that most people didn't know how bad it was in Afghanistan until September 11th. If we'd done something about this years ago, when it first became apparant that things were _not_ all rosy under the Taliban regime, maybe the world trade centre would still be standing.

Warpmind> >That song...
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Don't make me take out Squiffy again... ;)< *cowers* I'm sorry! I'm owned by my creativity demons, okay, and they're EVIL! ;)

Jan> >The next thing he knew, he woke up in field with his clothes ripped in shreds and his biceps and thighs swollen... yeah riiiight.< *LOL* Who says you can't find an interesting job? Dumb criminals, guys who think they're comic book characters... Keep a record of this stuff, and write a book about it!!

Jennifer> >My grandmother has lung cancer...< I'm so sorry to hear that. >I want to call her... I want to see her... but I am afraid that my emotions will only make things worse for her.< Perhaps you could write her a letter. Even if you don't send it, maybe it will help you get rid of the emotions, and you'll be able to call her/see her without making it worse for her.

I've read the articles, but I'm still confused: Who's Noam Chomsky and what does he do, aside from writing 'America is evil' stuff? Is he a politician or something?

TTFN!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Friday, September 28, 2001 05:46:42 AM
IP: proxy1.mel.pacific.net.au

Yooper> OK...just because he was further to the left than me and is now so far to the right he's almost left, doesn't mean he didn't write a bad article about Chomsky.
I don't even know who Chomsky is and this guy is saying I have made him my mentor. C'mon! He made way too many blanket statements, took a lot of quotes and darkened them with his own rhetoric (making me think, "How the hell did he get that?"), and made anybody who's remotley anti-war to be anti-America. That's pretty rediculous.
I mean, come on. I'm not saying the guy is satanic or anything like that, he's just making anyone who might even be remotley left to be worshipping this Chomsky guy, buying into anything Chomsky says. He sounds just like McCarthy:
McCarthy: "Arthur Miller is a communist because his plays are about the poor."
Horowitz: "This man worships Chomsky because he has leftist tendandcies."
I'm sorry, I think this guy is nuts himself. If he had made a sound argument, I would have actually thought about what he said. Look what he does. First, he makes Chomsky out to be a sick man, then says he has followers, then reveals his followers to be poeple you liked (Matt Damon, U2), then there's more followers: anyone who has leftist ideology, thereby making sure that you don't become a Chomsky worshipper by having leftist ideaology. Here's Horowitz's equation: Left = Chomsky, Anti-war = Anti-America, which equals Chomsky. Does he make room for poeple like me who want justice done without more deaths than there already is? NO! If you don't want war, according to him, then the ONLY conclusion we can possibly reach is that your Anti-American and you listen to Chomsky and worship him.
Believe me, I'm not degrading him because of his right-wing ideaology; I don't even listen to lefties who are as outrageuos as Horowitz.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Friday, September 28, 2001 03:18:28 AM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Hey folks.

Alright after waking up early today to go to office hours for a whopping 20 minutes, I went to some classes and then got home to play with...HARDWARE!

I got my birthday present in today: A 40 GB 7200 RPM Western Digital Caviar drive. This is my new primary, with my other 40 as backup.

I spent most of the evening configuring everything, installing the OS on the new drive, backing up onto the old one, etc. Loads of fun.

Now all I need is another 400 megs of RAM, a 100 GB drive, and an iBook, and I'll be good to go.

I'm sorry, but does anyone else think that a woman TELLING you she has PMS is pretty much a reason to discredit her?

I finally saw Transformers: Robots in Disguise the other day. It's so good to have them back. Even if its got Pokemon style animation, its better than nothing.

Anyway, on to replies.

Green Baron: <<Like France>>: ::shudder:: <<the smurfs were commies>>: Yes, but did you ever figure out why there was only ONE female!? <<smuggling tobbacco to black markets in California>>: Tobacco is legal in California. <<Now if I can get you to vote early and often>>: I'm only allowed to vote once. <<How many of them are fight-worthy>>: Who cares? They're just cannon fodder. <<MIT has its share of trouble>>: Since you weren't a student at either, I'm guessing you have only half the clue I do since I nearly went there. <<the anti-American crowd area bunch of spoiled hypocrites with narrow minds who feel guilty about tehir big bank accounts, while leftist policies cause so many countries to have nothing>>: I do not feel guilty about my bank account: I enjoy every dime in it. <<Ted Turner donated it to the UN. What a waste of money>>: Seriously. But then, he's Ted Turner. What do you expect?

The Wizard: <>: Inert-net strikes again! <>: You are just sharp as a tack. <<these dumb techs seem to know nothing of establishing and maintaining a campus network connection>>: What kind of tech support is this!? <>: I would be an modern archetype...except for that whole "asshole" streak, I'd be a common geek. <<Valetine's Day is the bane of my existence>>: POINT! <>: What a brilliant idea! <<but I'll still wait>>: As if you had a choice. <<The memory span of an average twenty year-old is three minutes, if you're lucky>>: I was thinking more along the order of magnitude of the frequency I think about sex. <<and you thought that my art history class was pornographic?>>: This weeks homework was on twisting shafts! <<If I only knew the formulae>>: They wouldn't help. <>: ...and? <<There's not enough in the universe>>: Sure there is. At Seybold I saw a 170 GB RAID array. <<Then I'm sure my brother can hook you up>>: If I ever visit you, I am SO bringing my friend. <<with the online capabilities of today>>: Hmmm, true. But still, the surgeons are in Beverly Hills. <<You were just watching that Vulcan chick, right?>>: What gave it away? <>: I didn't. But I did come to that conclusion. <<or supply you with a bevy of beautiful babes>>: Yeah, that one. That's better than hard drive space. <<My sight *sucks*>>: Bummer. I'll never let you drive, then. <<

Lain: <<like voyager better>>: I have so many chauvenistic comments to make about that show...

CrzyDemona: <>: Like the Nuclear carrier with enough ordinance on board to take out a country. <<particle beam weapon so the impacts made sense>>: A particle beam wouldn't make noise. <<Hell, I would be too>>: I was, and I was just WATCHING the scene! <<Where can I get myself a set of hooters like that?>>: They'll be standard issue on all women when I take over. <<then we would have better been able to find that Romulan ship that was ghosting off to port>>: Even in NextGen we couldn't track cloaked ships. <<It still amazes me that someone who worked so closely with Roddenberry for so many years just doesn't GET IT>>: I grew up with Berman's kid. The guy is nice, but you're right, he doesn't get what the show is about. <<I'm not much into holding grudges against people who's ancestors were idiots 200 years ago>>: Talk about a waste of perfectly good stress. <<You know a show is sucking when they have to infuse it with big boobies to keep it on the air>>: Thankfully those boobies are moving to Boston Public, which is on a channel I actually GET. As the Bloodhound Gang would say: "Hooray for Boobies!" <<Come back, ONE YEAR>>: See you in August...or something. <<Didn't need them coming for me too>>: Even if you were in the process of beating me senseless, I wouldn't wish the LAPD on you. <<it may have gotten us some news coverage>>: Yeah, of you being beaten with nightsticks. I love my police. <>: Damn straight I didn't. <>: What is your obsession with my butt!? ::cranes neck:: It's really not that impressive. <<Never grow up>>: Don't worry, I won't. <<You, Trek Geek, you>>: Yes I actually DID go to a convention and I actually did shake Frakes' hand. Who wants to touch me? Yes, I've showered since. <<It's all fun and games until someone looses and eye!>>: Or gains three!

Carolynn Marie: <>: I wish I had an excuse that good. I celebrate because I get guilt-tripped if I don't. <<mutual entertainment and pleasure>>: I would SO never play that game...Murphy's law dictates I'd be paired with who-knows-what. <<X-rated bout of spin-the-bottle>>: I thought that game WAS x-rated.

Smut Pandering Bitch Queen of All Creation: <<I'm 34>>: Wow, and I thought 28 was overshooting ;-)

HailerRo: Yes, but replication still involves transportation. Its just transportation from the stores of H, C, O, and N.

Patrick: <<if you come to G2K2, Crzy and I will make it up to you by BOTH of us kicking your butt>>: Ooh tempting. <<You're entitled to your own political opinions, as we are entitled to ours>>: No she isn't. She liked Voyager.

Tim: <<you're all a bunch of socially maladjusted losers>>: You are SO right, I just didn't want to be the one to say it.

Baldy: <<How so?>>: Did you read the article? It only holds for a little while. <<don't make me break out Squiffy>>: That's nice.

Sevarius Jr: <<if there is a fight in here, you know that it's a rule that I MUST be involved>>: I was beginning to wonder where my backup was. <<most of the smartasses in here are NOT malicious in their remarks towards others>>: I'm rarely malicious in here...admittedly. <<it just seems as if you have a problem with Josh in general instead of over this isolated incident>>: Was it something I said? <<Didn't you catch that?>>: She probably did, she just only cares when I say it because I piss her off already. <<you want to tool on me for saying nasty stuff about your roommate?>>: Not nearly as exciting as SJ vs. Crzy. <<If we take ourselves too seriously, if we can't look at ourselves and make jokes about our own faults and idiosyncrasies, than we're all doomed>>: So true.

*TREK SPOILERS*

And now we know why they have that STUPID rule that captains can't go on away missions.

*END TREK SPOILERS*

Jan: <<The next thing he knew, he woke up in field with his clothes ripped in shreds and his biceps and thighs swollen>>: That happened to me just the other day. <<it's the only time of the month that I can be the real me>>: So much to say... <<WE? you got a frog in your pocket?>>: I'm sorry...what does a frog have to do with him including himself? <>: "This is the dumbest thing a guy has EVER done to impress a dame." - from I.Q., with Tim Robbins and Walter Matthau.

Gside: <<Just the opposite>>: Were you in my apartment that you could tell? <<we had a fire alarm at 3 last night for which I neglected to grab a long sleeve shirt>>: Bet you regret that, huh? <<It says nothing of the average length of the thoughts>>: Ah, true. <>: If that soon. <>: Ewww, suck. <<According to comics and the like, a severe beating and a chance to do it again>>: I can accept that. The one time I succeed, it'll all be worthwhile. <<So we all also get more porn>>: Thank god. Because 10 gigs just isn't cutting it for me. <<You could probably get me on the way>>: You don't seem to understand that by NOT going, I could get a 100 GB hard drive. <>: What are you implying? <<Just for the heck of it, I'll confirm your thesis>>: You've already confirmed several. <<It is rather difficult to notice the warning signes in a text environment.>>: Especially one in which she doesn't post frequently.

Here's a good, very appropriate quote.

I just don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.
-Mr. Garrison, South Park.
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, September 28, 2001 02:41:57 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-27-38.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Hmm, Ian J. of RPGWorld is a fan of Stephanie Lostimolo.

The rate limit is no longer 240Megs a day. Now it's 2048 a week. At least they have our net stats ready to view.

Happy birthday Coyote.

Imzadi> <<God its hot in here>>: Just the opposite. And we had a fire alarm at 3 last night for which I neglected to grab a long sleeve shirt.
<<Huh?>>: I believe the I is supposed to be an if, capitalized by a spell check.
<<Is it just me or does that seem kind of...infrequent?>>: It says nothing of the average length of the thoughts.
<<What's he gonna do about it?>>: There's always the chance he could recode that part of the CR. But I don't think he'd get on it for another decade or so.<<My thoughts exactly>>: More so for me. I had an 8:10 after that $!@# fire alarm.
<>: Perhaps, but you can never be too sure.
<<What's the penalty for attempted World domination?>>: According to comics and the like, a severe beating and a chance to do it again.

Green Baron> <<all things pro-Puritan are also pro-Taliban>>: So we all also get more porn?
<<You should read about Noam, too>>: But you've also got to give him credit for UG and all the other fun Linguistic stuff he came up with, before he went insane.

Niamhgold> <<We had a tornado here the other night>>: It made the Targum, I believe.
<<My sight *sucks*>>: I'd be willing to bet mine's worse. Don't know the actual numbers, but my I focus at about 5 inches.

Imzadi> <<waste a day of my life just to fly out to you and insult you when I can easily do it right here>>: You could probably get me on the way. And I know you wouldn't mind a visit to Niamhgold.
<<if you read any posts back and forth between myself and Gside>>: Just for the heck of it, I'll confirm your thesis.

Aingeal> <<calling someone a loser isn't an insult>>: If you admit to being what you call someone else, I believe it loses a good bit of force.

Warpmind> <<barring some of the music>>: But is your composer still turned on by it all?

Aingeal> <<why NOT to tick off a woman during PMS?>>: It is rather difficult to notice the warning signes in a text environment.

Taleweaver> <<Can anyone tell me where I can find a good Playstation emulator?>>: Try http://www.zophar.net/psx.html I really need to decide on which Final Burn variant with which to go.

JLA> Well wishes for your grandmother.
Tarem tarah. The new mp3 is When the Foeman Bears His Steel, from Gilbert and Sullivan's Pirates of Penzance.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, September 28, 2001 01:35:43 AM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

Hey... update.

My grandmother has lung cancer... they misdiagnosed it as emphysema over a year ago. It's pretty much taken over one lung and is spreading fast. They are sending her to a specialist (FINALLY). I am so stuck on what I should do. I want to call her... I want to see her... but I am afraid that my emotions will only make things worse for her. Ugh... I am crawling to bed now...
Jennifer Anderson
Friday, September 28, 2001 12:46:34 AM
IP: 1cust228.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

Quick reply to metaldemon (I'm tired, sorry if I ramble a bit)

Actually, I can take his arguments as level when he says that *SOME* antiwar leaders are actually virulantly anti-American. He was a major leader for the antiwar protests against Vietnam. (He was one of the people who set up the first peace protest at Berzerkly) He and his friends set up the protests because they believed that America was the ultimate evil in the world engaging in an unjust war against the "peace loving" Communists in North Vietnam and an immoral Cold War against the "worker's paradise" of the Soviet Union.

He knows some of the leaders of the current protests personally from his time as a radical leftist (Barbara Lee is one)

I'm including a link to another of his articles, an open letter to the current protesters.
Yooper - [jwprusi@up.net]
Houghton, MI
Friday, September 28, 2001 12:13:09 AM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

<Fire Storm enters the CR holding a box of Kleenex, followed soon after by a pack of his xenomorphic children. FS raises a hand and points at Sil Sludge.>
"Yum Yum." He says to his children calmly.
The screams of Sil as FS's children shred Sil apart fill the room.

Sick. Working. SUCKS.
L8R.
Fire Storm
Thursday, September 27, 2001 11:22:47 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

*walks in sporting a new haircut and style* :) geesh, there's still pink in my hair! gah

Unfortunately I cannot receive Enterprise but I sure wanted to see it! *whimpers* And I for one enjoyed the Voyager series :p~~

Josh> no, I do not work for that particular area of the justice system. It is the judges that allows for such nonsense and injustice to prevail. Put a police officer on the bench as judge and you wouldn't see so many criminals go free or get light sentences.

We had the pleasure of meeting the Incredible Hulk today. *chuckles* This guy claims to have 7 personalities - one of which is the Incredible Hulk. He said that once he was hammering and hit his thumb. The next thing he knew, he woke up in field with his clothes ripped in shreds and his biceps and thighs swollen... yeah riiiight.

IRS agents showed up today with summons for about 98% of the police force. While the office admin was going over the paperwork with the agents, I kept very quiet and to myself. I was sweating bullets there for a moment.. hehe I kept thinking of how I was going to come up with the receipts that I would need to verify the high $$ of the contributions that I wrote off last year... ;) Anyway, the officers were summoned because of a major drug bust and the IRS is going after the criminals on tax-fraud.

SJ> don't give up the faith yet! I haven't heard the fat lady sing yet ;) I think they are playing mind games with Osama-mama. I also heard that Jesse Jackson is claiming that he was invited... but both the US government and the Talibans have denied contacting him. The Talibans say that he called them. The US government has expressed that they would prefer that he not interfere.
Also, I heard the complete quote that Bush made, "I'm not going to send a $10 million missile to destroy a $10 tent and go up a camel's butt." *L*

Lain> <<calling yourselves the greatest nation on earth is NOT the reason why you got bombed. i grant you thats probably part of it.. but the tip if the iceberg at most. >> so you've changed your mind about this afterall?

I think that Wolf Lake was a bit better last night, but it still seems a bit cheesy to me. It has such a potential, but they are not exploring those avenues.
CSI was on tonight - great episode. The District will be airing this Saturday night!! *happy feet dance*

Well drats.. Anna and the boyfriend are appearing to be "making up". Ohwell, it was nice while it lasted. I did tell her to tread lightly - we still need his signature on the release of custody papers after Zach is born. He could fight for custody, but then we'd change our strategies (she'd keep custody and sue for child support and then we'd maintain legal guardianship. I've talked to my attorney about all of us so we'll be prepared for whatever action he ends up making. *growls at Anna for putting us in this position in the first place*

Aingeal> *hands you some Midol* ;) Reminds me of the joke, "I don't know why women complain about PMS, it's the only time of the month that I can be the real me" *L*
I hope you feel better soon :)

Tim> <<we're all here because we obsess over a catoon! >> hey! WE? you got a frog in your pocket? ;) Heh, I don't even know what half of the people are talking about most of the time when they analyze the Gargoyle cartoons. O.O
I come here because I have a mad crush on someone ;)

Time to call it a night.... I overslept this morning, so I need more rest!
Jan
Thursday, September 27, 2001 10:56:58 PM
IP: modem19-145.mo-net.com

DPH> I've seen the new Transformers series in straight Japanese, so I'm enjoying it here. It's not great, but I'm enjoying it for what it is. A fun series.

To answer your questions, yes the Decepticons/Combaticons did work for Gigatron (I refuse to call him Megatron, we've already had two characters with that name) in the Japanese versions. The series is pretty much the same except a few names and lines of dialogue are different. And while the Autobots should be able to win right away, I'm glad they don't cause I hate them. Though the Cons get much more powerful near the end of the series, specifically Gigatron gets much more powerful and much more badass. There's a reason the Japanese began to call him Devil Gigatron in the last few episodes ;)
Greg Bishansky
Thursday, September 27, 2001 08:37:40 PM
IP: dialin-1046-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

**A portal opens and DPH enters the door in an ULTRAHEAVY, he struggles to land and accidently crashs into the Table of Peace.**

Sorry about crashing into the Table of Peace. I do probably need to take lessons on taking off (don't ask) and landing. Yep, that's right, it looks like an Ultralite. One big difference. Except for the fuel for the whole thing is made of compressed osmium (they compressed 1 cubic yard of osmium into 1 cubic inch). Oh yea, inverse gravity device that lowers the weight (NOT mass) of the ULTRAHEAVY isn't made of osmium. Feel free to fly around in it, just don't turn the inverse gravity device off. I'm not entirely sure that the ultraheavy won't seek in any ground. You see, I didn't ask for the mass of the ultraheavy before I picked it up.

**Enterprise**
They're substituting sexy characters/sexy scenes for decent stories? Sheesh. Excellent writing will bring in the audience. Don't the producers know that?

Bring the best selling science fiction writers together and give them complete freedom to write great stories.

Voyager's biggest problem was bad writing.
**END ENTERPRISE**

**Transformers**
1st, was that the Japanese version of the Combaticons that combine on the Predacon side?

2nd, does anyone in this room think this series does not suck? Things are way unbalanced. If all the autobots fought all the predacons and decepticons, the autobots would easily win, by shear numbers.
**END TRANSFORMERS**

My chiropractor's wife just had a baby, so I'll have to wait until Monday to find out the results.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Thursday, September 27, 2001 08:20:50 PM
IP: max1-47.cwy.cei.net

Star Trek> Not to say that the lot of us AREN'T socially maladjusted losers, but as far as Star Trek is concerned, I'd say the only people I'd call losers are those who still hold onto Trek for dear life even in the face of all the horrible turns it's made in recent years. I've divorced myself from the franchise after "Voyager" and "First Contact." You can still like Trek, and be willing to give it another chance (even though I'm not, and from what I'm hearing - Worf-style Klingons and nude lotion scenes - I don't feel bad) but you gotta just level and admit that the franchise has gone to hell ever since Roddenberry died.
Entity
Thursday, September 27, 2001 07:40:17 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

Hi-ho,

Thought I'd toss in my $.02 about Enterprise.

* * * Enterprise Spoilers Ahead * * *

The good> Much of the crew I liked. I liked the linguist/translator, the doctor, and the helmsmen. Presenting interesting characters has been a constant with Star Trek, developing and using them has been a hit and miss proposition though. The British Chief Engineer and the captain's buddy seem a little bland.

I also liked the little puppy. It's hard not to like someone who has a pet. I would like to see the dog do more than sit in the bed.

The antagonism between the Vulcans and humans is a good set up. I'll want to see where it pops up.

The captain getting injured is a nice touch. I'm trying to remember how often the previous crew were injured, not just stunned. Even though it was a little obvious it added a sense of jeopardy.

The Bad> The story didn't have a lot of spark and a lot obvious ploys. The scene were the vulcan and the captain's buddy strip down and rub lotion on themselves was so softcore I was expecting that cheesy 70's saxophone music to start playing. The transporter and tracking the ion trail were technobabble I'm hoping they'll cut down for a while. I hope we'll see the crew work together as an effective team before they start relying on 'changing the phase varience of the deflector array'.

The Captain is rough and tumble, but he's trying to hard. I'll get shouted at for this, but he reminded me of Ash from Pokemon. A little too twerpy and trying to hard to prove something. I prefer leading characters who do their job and seem a step or two ahead of the crew.

The Ugly> I agree with some comments that the technology looks too slick to be considered primative. The alien strip joint made me wince. I too yearn for more interesting alien species than the humanoid biped with fake plastic forehead.

The big thing was this temporal bad guy. Call it a bad experience left over from Voyager, but time travel stories in Trek are the last refuge of the incompetant. So just hearing the phrase temporal cold war made me grab a pillow and hurl it at the TV.

Overall> It was novel enough to give it a second chance next week. I want to see how it plans to fill a Wed. night. I want to be hopeful, but I've been burned too often to be forgiving. I want to see the crew mingle more and also reaching out for more simple, common sense solutions to problems. Captain: "Tell him to shut up." Linguist: "Shut Up!" It gave me a chuckle.

* * * End of Enterprise Spoilers * * *

Two quick questions before I go. 1) Can anyone tell me where I can find a good Playstation emulator? I've decided to stop being a chump and wait for PC versions of the games and just playing off my computer. 2) Has anyone seen Wolf Lake? It has a Twin Peaks feel, but if the werewolf thing is supposed to be a secret, they aren't doing a good job hiding the truth.

Hasta la bye-bye
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Thursday, September 27, 2001 07:21:47 PM
IP: cbl123.pool007.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

War Update: WOW!!! Did you see what happened today? All of those bombs we dropped, the troops we sent in, and.....oh wait, that's right, we didn't do any of that. Cause we're pussies. Gee, the longer we go without actually doing something, the more I begin to think maybe Maher was right to call us cowards (well, no, he wasn't....not about the military, at least. But maybe about the guys running the military.)

New Queen C*nt: Angelina Jolie has announced that she will be donating 1 million bucks....

....to the AFGHAN refugees.

Right. Cause we all know the people in New York and Washington don't need any more money to help rebuild. Cause we Americans don't need the help, why not give some money to the very people who caused this tragedy?

Well, for our New War of the New Millennium, we now have our new Jane Fonda for that war, and her name is Angelina Jolie. I wanna see her do her impression of Vietnam Napalm Girl, only with real napalm.

Well, if there is a fight in here, you know that it's a rule that I MUST be involved.

Aingeal: Geez, sensitive much?
Yes, Josh is a smartass. I'm one too. There are a lot of smartasses in here. The point is, most of the smartasses in here are NOT malicious in their remarks towards others. It's just humor, and was NOT humor particularly leveled at your roommate. Personally, and I don't know you, but it just seems as if you have a problem with Josh in general instead of over this isolated incident.

For the record, though, I called Trekkers / Trekkies "losers without a life" several weeks ago. Didn't you catch that? So, in all due fairness, you want to tool on me for saying nasty stuff about your roommate?

Now I'm actually serious about this: we freaks n' geeks need to have a sense of humor, *especially* about ourselves. If we take ourselves too seriously, if we can't look at ourselves and make jokes about our own faults and idiosyncrasies, than we're all doomed.

lain: Maybe it's cause some of us don't believe you really feel all *that* bad about what happened in New York.
You DID read Green Baron's last linked article, didn't you?

And to everyone, for a good laugh, check out The Onion. I've linked the site to my name.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Thursday, September 27, 2001 06:51:51 PM
IP: 66-44-62-44.s44.tnt5.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Thanks, Aingeal, but I know why. However, my psychic receptors are down, so its hard for me to pick up from 3000 miles away that you're suffering from such a condition.
Josh
Thursday, September 27, 2001 06:41:07 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-27-38.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Crzy: Oh I'm easing up... he just messed with someone i care about at a time when I was allready pissy :p .... do YOU want to explain to him why NOT to tick off a woman during PMS?

and Yes.. i'd love to still beat him up... being a smart ass is all well and good... but not wihtout limits. :D

BTW I will remember next time to invite you to the bitch fight.... what's your e-mail or IM so that I may contact you expeditiously ::grins::
Aingeal
Thursday, September 27, 2001 06:01:56 PM
IP: 207.42.162.179

WHOA! There's a bitch fight and I'm not involved?? How the hell did that happen!?

Aingeal - I can't believe I am going to do this... but.. I don't really think Josh meant any harm. He was just being a smart ass (as usual). Ease up on your main thrusters there babe. I think you took it much more personal than it was meant to be taken (but I am still up for beating his ass with you if you want).

Josh - Never grow up... it sucks ass. You, Trek Geek, you. ::hides her Trek toys:: ahem...

Warpmind - "don't make me break out Squiffy" O.O What the hell??? Dude! Put that thing away before you get us all killed! It's all fun and games until someone looses and eye!!
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Thursday, September 27, 2001 05:51:45 PM
IP: 1cust133.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

Avalon Mists addition > had a late-entry story, Gargoyles Troopers: The Home Front, by Desslock. It's now posted. Click or go to http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/avmists/sep01.html and remember, the deadline for the Winter issue is Nov. 28th. Submissions can be sent to me at christine@sabledrake.com
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, September 27, 2001 01:53:29 PM
IP: 01-049.075.popsite.net

*Warpmind enters, whistling.*
First chapter of the CRPG is available at my link. Almost complete with all relevant data, barring some of the music. (No, not a pun.) Woohoo, I'm on a roll here, baby! }:)

Fleur: That song...
õõ
Õõ
õÕ
ÕÕ
Don't make me take out Squiffy again... ;)

Josh: Only for a little while? How so? Remember, roaches breed like ROACHES!!!

Green Baron: And it's not the people, but the government of Afghanistan that is the target. Though, they do have some zealots that might be interesting to pick on... }:) Oh, and... Hedwig? That's a Norwegian name, far as I know... or at least Scandinavian... Õõ (Though, over here, it'd likely be spelled with a "v" instead of "w"...)

Kyryn: If that is true... I stand corrected. Actually, it just proves that I *really* ought to figure out just *where* I stashed my copy... :|

Niamhgold: Self-portrait as Witchblade? GIMMIEGIMMIEGIMMIE!!! *Sheepish grin*

*Glances from Aingeal to Josh, and back again.* Kids, what Tim said... don't make me break out Squiffy... please...

Well, that concludes my post. I gotta get some sleep early tonight; gotta leave the house early in the morning, which means I won't be in all weekend (off to a seminar on the mainland) until LATE Sunday evening. Good thing so few of my webcomics have weekend strips...
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, September 27, 2001 01:26:44 PM
IP: mp-217-239-157.daxnet.no

::grins at Tim:: yeah... but that's fun... mostly I just dont like Imzy, and stressed out and he gave me a target... it'll go away in a lil bit :p
Aingeal
Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:30:43 PM
IP: 207.42.162.156

[Watches the ensuing fight between Josh & Aingeal]

MEEWRROOW! [HISS! HISS!]

Children! Children! Don't fight. You don't need to put each other down. As far as I'm concerned, you're all a bunch of socially maladjusted losers. For christ sake, we're all here because we obsess over a catoon!
The Enchanter known as.... Tim
Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:23:54 PM
IP: wsc0072.wsc.edu

Josh: <<my comment to your friend was no more insulting than referring to any of my fellow nerds as such. I really didn't mean any offense to anyone.>> Uh huh,.... right...calling someone a loser isn't an insult... that's a new one to me.

<<"mac lovin" - I'm sorry...was that supposed to be an insult?>> Yes actaully... but then i'm biassed.

<<As for flying to the east coast: you're right, I was just thinking about how I'd like to spend my hard-earned money and waste a day of my life just to fly out to you and insult you when I can easily do it right here. I'm not afraid of you, or anyone else for that matter. >> ::shrugs:: s'ok... wouldn't want you to hurt yourself

<<As for getting a life, I don't deny that I have no life, and if you read any posts back and forth between myself and Gside, you'll see that its the case. >> No kidding... you spend all that free time it seems practicing how to be an asshole.

<<AND I"LL NEVER GROW UP. I'm sure I *could*, because I know that I have the capacity to be a very "mature" person when I'm with a group of adults. However, despite the ages of the members of this CR, it strikes me that everyone here is a little childish. >> Yes but most of us know how to act our ages and tailor comments to the person we're responding to... you dont seem to have figured that one out yet. And I do happento have a childish streak.... it just ahppens to be controlled.

<<So you're free to think that you're some mature brilliant superior being...but just know that thinking that you're better than someone actually makes THEM better than YOU. >>

Superior.. never said that... tat's more in your line of things... I dont bother with massive arrogance, waste of my time.

I DO happen to know however that I dont insult people who haven't done anything to me... nor usually to those who have. You might trying the "be nice" thing sometime... might improve your ability to make friends.

Anyway.

Patrick Toman: random thought... can Lynati and I help with the butt kicking? (tho we thought a wedgie and ducttaping to the flagpole would be fun too...)
Aingeal
Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:20:19 PM
IP: 207.42.162.156

GB> LOL. That article, along with the one Yooper linked, reeks of an old-school Republican "the commies are taking over" paranoia tone.
Seriously, you can't take his arguments as level. I'm surprised he's not on the Texas legislator, who, to quote my Philosophy of Natural Science professor, decrees anyone who cares about poeple or the enviroment, to be "gay communists."
That guy belongs in the Red Scare.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:19:50 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Aingeal: Stuff it (TM). I also know way too much about Star Trek, and my comment to your friend was no more insulting than referring to any of my fellow nerds as such. I really didn't mean any offense to anyone.

"mac lovin" - I'm sorry...was that supposed to be an insult?

As for flying to the east coast: you're right, I was just thinking about how I'd like to spend my hard-earned money and waste a day of my life just to fly out to you and insult you when I can easily do it right here. I'm not afraid of you, or anyone else for that matter.

As for getting a life, I don't deny that I have no life, and if you read any posts back and forth between myself and Gside, you'll see that its the case.

AND I"LL NEVER GROW UP. I'm sure I *could*, because I know that I have the capacity to be a very "mature" person when I'm with a group of adults. However, despite the ages of the members of this CR, it strikes me that everyone here is a little childish.

So you're free to think that you're some mature brilliant superior being...but just know that thinking that you're better than someone actually makes THEM better than YOU.
Josh
Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:10:19 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-27-38.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Note to Josh, Do NOT say things about my roomate when you dont know her. Pick on me, razz the hall out of me, i can fight back.. she doesn't know you , you dont know here... so shut the hell up. (in ref to : <<Aingeal: <<my roomie knows WAY too much about ST>>: Loser. >>)

I also happen to know way too much about St and love the series.

if you have a problem with it lets see you fly your stupid lil MAC loving butt to the east coast and insult me in person. Your attitude tends to get on my nerves, but I try and ignore it. when you mess with those I care about tho you just plain tick me off. Get a life dear... and grow up... it might help... but with you i'm not sure that's possible.

PS, anyone else who's ofended that I'm telling Imzy-boy off e-mail me and I'll give you my 2 cents.... i dont figure that I need to tell off EVERYONE that annoys me in public, just those that insult my friends in public.

Aingeal - [aingealkelly@yahoo.com]
Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:03:06 PM
IP: 207.42.162.156

Ugh...forgive my stupid formatting for the last post. You know you haven't gotten too much sleep when...
Niamhgold
Thursday, September 27, 2001 09:39:02 AM
IP: 206.41.204.140

** Niamhgold enters again **

And I'm back, as promised. I knew my posts would be getting less and less frequent as soon as school started...plus, these dumb techs seem to know nothing of establishing and maintaining a campus network connection. Oh, well, what else can I do? ;) Anyways...finished my comics for review by Ben Katchor, finished my life sized self-portrait (as Witchblade, no less, now _that_ was fun!), and have just basically been hanging out with friends. I actually got sucked into watching Enterprise last night...and, considering I've never really watched any of the Star Trek syndicated eps before, it was a milestone.

On to replies!:

Christine: <Modern archetypes, and isn't it fun?> Oh yes, yes indeed :) Although I love the surprise that follows when someone *considers* you to be a modern archetype, and then you turn out to be something completely unexpected ;)

Carolyn: <Anyway, I celebrate just to be with my family and give thanks for having 'em there> I agree...as Christmas has sort of degraded from being a very religious, high-holy day of the year into a day of utter commercialism, Thanksgiving has actually risen into holiness ;) <Now, I'm not one to knock the present-day Valentine's Day, but...> Go ahead and knock it ;) Valetine's Day is the bane of my existence and, as such, I find it necessary to go trick-or-treating on that day of the year. Now, you want a romantic holiday? That's where Halloween comes in ;) Nothing like Samhain to put me in the spirit of things...pun intended ;) <Oh, LOL!! Reminds me of when Marla tells Jack in "Fight Club" when they're fighting over who should go to the testicle cancer meeting: "Well, I should get to go 'cuz technically you still have your balls"> Ever hear the stipulation about how Marla could possibly be the main character's id? It was cool, in the book :)

Daddy: <Patience is, apparently, not a virtue of many of TGS's readers> Patience isn't a virtue of myself, either, but I'll still wait :) <As if I remember anything I posted yesterday> The memory span of an average twenty year-old is three minutes, if you're lucky ;) <a) find the vertical stiffness of the crane at point B> Uh...and you thought that my art history class was pornographic? <(b) Determine the vertical deflection caused by the application of force P = 16 kN. Let E = 200 GPa> If I only knew the formulae... <When its easy and I get to boast that I'm done and YOU'RE not> Pretty much every day. The problems with the subjectivity of art assignments...you're never actually, truly "done" >:( <What is your obsession with that place?> I guess it stems back to Ferdinand of Aragon <None of them appropriate, I'm sure.> Have they ever been? ;) <Now all I need is more HD space... > There's not enough in the universe. <<<It's hard for Statics to maim and kill>>: How little you know> I would think that Statics would only have the ability to make one comatose...not murder. <Why would you want to go down on a weasel?> ** Sighs ** <Oh yeah, you know me. I dig those 13 year olds ;-)> Then I'm sure my brother can hook you up ;) <Amen to that.> And so now you are religious? <Where can you get a pair of hooters like that? Only one place: Beverly Hills> Actually, with the online capabilities of today... <God its hot in here> You were just watching that Vulcan chick, right? LOL <Its in the back of a pickup truck under a tarp.> I thought you said you didn't do anything much ;) And thing is, my friend Paul has a pickup truck, and when more than three people need a ride...the others sit under a tarp in the back ;) <Do you know what ELSE we could do with that billion dollars!?> Either get you enough HD space to hold your brain patterns, or supply you with a bevy of beautiful babes...right? <My vision is flawless, thank you> Lucky. My contact lens prescription is -8.5 in my left eye, and -9.0 in the right. Average person who needs lenses for "just blurry lines" only really needs -0.5 to -1.0. My sight *sucks* <You mean during EVERY commercial break?> Well, between that and Special Unit...y'know, I never feel jipped at not having UPN ;) <and quite frankly, I've no desire to see Bakula naked> No, but that other guy...

Adios for now!

Lain: <enterprise>> didnt like it. like voyager better... (so far)> I've never watched voyager, but I'd have to say that Enterprise didn't really compel me. Maybe it's because Bakula was kicked down at one point and cried out, "Gah!" ;)

Woo-hoo! Tiny Toons! Particle Man, Particle Man...

NIamhgold
Thursday, September 27, 2001 09:37:53 AM
IP: 206.41.204.140

I missed watching "Enterprise" last night... I've known it was coming, I just haven't been that excited about it. But I really didn't pay much attention to "Voyager," either, until about midway into the first season.

Josh - If it will make you feel better, how about this... if you come to G2K2, Crzy and I will make it up to you by BOTH of us kicking your butt. :P

Crzy - I've been meaning to ask you for two days now but you haven't been online at night... would you be available to do a paid commission for me? I'm working on a bio / style sheet for a new fanfic character. >:)

GB - I think I'll keep my Thanksgiving, thank you. And I'll take your helping of turkey if you don't want it. :P

Lain - You're entitled to your own political opinions, as we are entitled to ours.

"Peace by persuasion has a pleasant sound, but I think we should not be able to work it. We should have to tame the human race first, and history seems to show that that cannot be done." - Mark Twain, 1899.
Patrick Toman
Thursday, September 27, 2001 09:26:02 AM
IP: dsl081-009-210.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net

Crzy: Where can you get a pair of hooters like that? Only one place: Beverly Hills.
Josh
Thursday, September 27, 2001 08:56:56 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-27-38.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Green Baron> <<Capitalism allows for freedom of Religion and I choose to be a Catholic, so no conflict there.>>
Well, so does everything else besides Communism. I was thinking more in line of the ethical side of Capitalism. But I won't go into it unless you'd like me to.
<<Have you ever thought of being a Jesuit?>>
No. I'm starting to lean towards Rastafari.
Time to go hug a tree, smuggle some illegals in the US, and go make some hearts bleed. :D
Later.

metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Thursday, September 27, 2001 08:31:55 AM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Hmmm. It seems to me that replication technology involves more work than transportation. To transport is to move one thing from one place to another *by breaking apart all of its molecules* To replicate involves building something out of molecules. *When you're transported, the computer takes note of your pattern, how you're put together and then just reassembles the pieces.* But I think to replicate it would have to have millions upon millions of patterns to follow, in its memory banks, in order to replicate a host of various objects. *Well, that's my two cents*
HailerRo
USAThursday, September 27, 2001 08:23:53 AM
IP: 207.42.162.184

****Kyryn appears****

Warpmind><LOTR: From what I've seen, there's only one little nitpick I have with the movie... the Ring itself. From what I've seen, the writing is visible on the outside. As I recall it, the letters were ONLY along the inside of it.> Actually, the lettering is along BOTH the inside and the outside. (They were probably just showing the beginning of the sequence where the lettering becomes visible.) That is confirmed in the Fellowship of the Ring. Okami and I pulled the volume from our collection and checked on it after we saw the trailer. One verse is on the outside and one verse is on the inside.

****Kyryn vanishes****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, September 27, 2001 07:59:43 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Josh > 28? Aww, aren't you sweet! ::ruffles hair:: I'm 34.

Carolynn Marie > LOL, usually, if I hear from people saying they have a relative "just like that!", they're referring to Aunt Agnes ; ) Modern archetypes, and isn't it fun?

Grr, our computer is being a pain in the butt. Something's wrong with our e-mail. I was hoping to get caught up today, but now it looks like that's a no-go. If you've been waiting to hear from me, please bear with.

Sabledrake reminder > the deadline for the November "myth & magic" issue is November 2nd. Looking for fantasy and sci-fi or game-related fiction, articles, reviews, and art.

Crzy > psst, hon, don't forget, you've got the cover this time! And since I am having trouble replying to e-mail, about the other project -- yeah, the story's on my site; the booklet will be the size of the G2001 program so the pics should look good at about 1/2 that size page, and I forget what else you'd asked. Maybe I'll catch you on ICQ, if that's still working.

Green Baron > that was what my sig used to be. Some quote by Moliere. About how writing was like prostitution. First done for the fun, then for a few friends, and ultimately for the money ; ) Need another story?

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, September 27, 2001 07:36:58 AM
IP: 16-162.075.popsite.net

GB<< Mara> Hedwig, my great grandfather's sister-in-law was named Hedwig :) >>

I always thought JK Rowlig mad that name up. Is there a meaning behind it?

THANKSGIVING< Hell, I'd keep it. You can't knock everything that "might be" pro-Taliban. I celebrate the holiday with my family not because some tyrannical group of people invented it three hundred years ago (before murdering all the Native Americans and ... damn, wait a minute ... this holiday really IS bloody!!). Anyway, I celebrate just to be with my family and give thanks for having 'em there.

Interestingly enough, long before the Christian church turned it into a holiday celebrating a beheaded martyr, Valentine's Day was actually a pagan fertility rite. Every year, young men and women partook in a "lottery", and whoever got paired up were able to stay together for a year of "mutual entertainment and pleasure" until the next year's lottery. Sorta like an X-rated bout of spin-the-bottle.

Now, I'm not one to knock the present-day Valentine's Day, but ... ;)

Holidays' meanings and the way they're carried out in later years don't always coincide. Sadly.
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Thursday, September 27, 2001 07:36:40 AM
IP: pc169-2.drew.edu

Guess I will start off with...

***** ENTERPRISE SPOILERS! *****

Okay... the theme song is a FAR cry from the fanfare of TNG... but the imagery during the opening credits brought tears to my eyes. Especially in light of recent events, I was happy to see all the ships named 'Enterprise' that represent American ingenuity and progress. ::sniffle::

I am liking the hot headedness of our new Captain. Very nice. I liked the bitterness towards the Vulcans. The Vulcan's have always been portrayed as our helping hand in universe. I like this twist that the Terrans seem to feel repressed by them and the Vulcans feel that the Terrans are too compulsive and jumpy to venture further into space.

My husband was making cracks about how the weapons where making impact noises when they were on Rigel. I had figured they were some sort of particle beam weapon so the impacts made sense. They nicely followed up on my theory by introducing the Phase weapons later. ;)

The good doctor! He is going to be a favorite of mine. I love how he fully enjoys people getting hurt so that he can study them. It's all so enjoyable to him. Much fun! Plus, he has a bit of that "Medicine Man" side of him where he is using home remedies and all natural cures when he can. The eel cauterizing the wound was a nice example.

I guess I was the only one paying enough attention to notice that our Tommy Lee Jones rip-off 'Tucker' WAS a bit excited after rubbing that stuff all over T'Pol. Hell, I would be too! Where can I get myself a set of hooters like that??

Way to find out if those Heisenburg Compensators are working on the transporter!! Nothing like scrambling the captains molecules to save his life! WOO HOO! I think maybe our Vulcan is a bit of a renegade herself. Nice calculated risk.

Continuity issues that bugged me. WHAT COLOR IS KLINGON BLOOD!? Ugh.. can't they make up their minds?? Sensors picking up plasma decay? Hellooo, if we had this technology in Kirk's time, then we would have better been able to find that Romulan ship that was ghosting off to port! (am I showing my age now?)

All in all I think this show has potential... but I am sure Rick Berman will screw it up just like he did DS9. He will give up quality stories for sensationalism... after all.. that gets better ratings.. :P It still amazes me that someone who worked so closely with Roddenberry for so many years just doesn't GET IT. :P

***** END ENTERPRISE SPOILERS *****

GB - "Too bad his family came from the Mayflower, which hosted the most despicable people in all Christendom, Puritans." I'm not much into holding grudges against people who's ancestors were idiots 200 years ago.

Lain - O.O I think it best I NOT comment on your political stand with the US... I'm sure you don't care to hear it anyway. But Voyager?? please!! How do you expect people to take you seriously when you end your post with a statement like that? O.O Voyager = High Tech Gilligan's Island without the laugh track. You know a show is sucking when they have to infuse it with big boobies to keep it on the air.

JOSH - I didn't kick your ass for one reason... I was con-chair and was just far too busy (no ass kicking for you! Come back, ONE YEAR!). Besides, I figured Dreamie and Winterwolf had L.A.P.D and the Sheriff dept. at the hotel once already that weekend... Didn't need them coming for me too. Who knows though, it may have gotten us some news coverage. :P
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Thursday, September 27, 2001 07:30:17 AM
IP: 1cust216.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

what do i look like to you guys, TOTALLY stupid? youre lecturing me like youre my father and thats really REALLY boring and has little effect on me. im really NOT dumb enough to think that we live in a perfect sun-flower daisy world where there are no terrorists and that no innocent people ever die in war. sorry, guys, i really am NOT that stupid. maybe close to that stupid, but im not that far gone. i am aware that innocent people die in war. duh. i am aware that, i AM aware that he recruits children. i think that is VILE but i know it happens (though i doubt any of them are going to be "wasting americans" with M-16s. though i hear they have a healthy collection of AKs..) and i KNOW that the al qaeda like to blend in with everyone else, so many innocents will be killed by accident... i really am not that dumb. im just against carpet-bombing the country, you know.
not worshipping allah, supporting israel and calling yourselves the greatest nation on earth is NOT the reason why you got bombed. i grant you thats probably part of it.. but the tip if the iceberg at most.
*shrug*

fleur>> yes, they are a perverted bunch of creeps.

jan>> yes, the legal system sucks. but its good that youre sharing such things, otherwise people wouldnt know.
sounds like you are enjoying your job, congrats!

enterprise>> didnt like it. like voyager better... (so far)
lain
the Great White North
Thursday, September 27, 2001 07:15:56 AM
IP: sunrise.lib.uwo.ca

** Niamhgold enters quickly **

Longer post later, considering I lost my internet connection again yesterday and just realized it was back this morning. We had a tornado here the other night, and me standing on the roof trying to see it, I don't even stop to think about the fact that the thing was an F3 and deadly. Two kids died in it :( Clicky my name for more info.
Niamhgold
Thursday, September 27, 2001 04:25:49 AM
IP: 206.41.204.140

Yooper> Townhall is pretty good source. Have you looked at Front Page Mag, yet? David Horowitz is right on!!

My next link features another enemy of America, Noam Chomsky, anti-Semite and anti-American. Another reason I waat my kids to avoid Cambridge, plus this article is written by David Horowitz, who saw the light.

Coyote> Happy Birthday. Here, have some viagra autographed by Bob Dole :)

Carolynn Marie> I knew that about Hitler. Sad thing about Thanksgiving is that it was founded by Puritans, and the Puritans are a Christian (in name only) and English version of the Taliban. Maybe we shoudl cancel this Puritan holdiay as all things pro-Puritan are also pro-Taliban.

Josh and SJ> Read my link, too. You, too, Jannie. It should be right up your alley. Tommorrow, I post a link about Noam Chmosky the anti-semite.

Gside> You should read about Noam, too :)

Tim P.> I can get my family breakdown.

14th century> Osbert DeForsyth. Mercenary in Battle of Bannochburn
1690> Colonel George Logan> British Offcier stationed to Charleston. Married Governor's widow.
Sir Douglas Forsyth> Knighted by Queen Victoria for campaigns in India
Great-great grandfather (Thomas M Logan)> Brigadier General, Confederate Army, 1861-1865
Grandfather> US Army Air Corps
Great Uncle> US Navy
Great Uncle> Consul General to Brazil (Nazi hunter)
Grandfather (Worthington) FBI
Father> US NAVY 1965-1969
Mother> Secret Service
Uncle (Joe Worthington)> Secret Service, very high up
Uncle (John Worthington)> 4F Lung problems
Uncle ("Buck" Worthington)> US Army (Medical Corps)
Me> US ARMY Finance Corps

Crzy> Integrity is hard to find in Presidents nowadays, thanks to Clinton, but Bush is not some hillbilly with a degree. Too bad his family came from the Mayflower, which hosted the most despicable people in all Christendom, Puritans.

Tim (again) Even thirty years ago, protestors went violent, like those treasonous folks at Kent State who burned down an ROTC building. The National Guard was completely in the right. I just wished they fired M60s instead of M16s.

<<It's a big world out there, Rainbow McDolphin. If you don't feel like paying the cover charge at Club America, pack up your Birkenstocks and find yourself another place to groove.>>
Like France :)

SOROW> ::hugs::

Dreamie> I hate to break it to you, but the smurfs were commies :)

Metaldeomn> I'm not an Objectivist. I supprot a capitalist and limited Government, though that does not affect my religious beliefs. Capitalism allows for freedom of Religion and I choose to be a Catholic, so no conflict there.

Berkely is nuts. At least the hippie types at Loyola are genuinely concerned about Social Justice an dnot just attacking America. Plus they don't show violence with what they do. I still a lot of them are bleeding-hearts, but I like them personally. Have you ever thought of being a Jesuit? Why not get a boyfriend with a few PhDs?

Mooncat> Your bad boy sounds like my little baby warlord. Attila also hit on patrick because he was Madame Destine :) He led teh Catholci schoolgirl scouts as well as several criminal organizations, mostly Russian Mafia and smuggling tobbacco to black markets in California, as well as alchohol to dry counties, but he had assembled a mob of TV mafiosos, including DeNiro, Pacino, Pesci, and Duvall, right before he died. He also headed the Capitalist Jedi League, as well as having OJ Simpson as his bodyguard and #1 hitman. The old RPs should have many amusing tales, like how he killed Socks his archnemesis, freed Pinochet, and restored the Romanov and Hapsburg dynasties to power in Russia and Austria respectively.

I'm sorry about the calico. I knwo what its like to lsoe a loved one. Sadly, the barracks won't let me have a cat :(

Mara> Hedwig, my great grandfather's sister-in-law was named Hedwig :)

Patrick> I saw Harry Pothead on newgrounds, plus it was in Scary Movie II

DPH> Disocvery of Manhattan, Building of World Trade Center come to mind.

Imzadi> My sister's late cat was named George, but no coincidence. Maybe there is some kitten named Dubya :) <<Not my fault! I voted Republican. >> Now if I can get you to vote early and often.
<<Whoa. And now you write smut.>> Actually, I pay Christine to do it for me :)
<<Um...Vietnam?>> Grunt lines means Infantry, 11B.
<<Nah, we need them. How about the bottom 10% of the INTELLIGENCE ladder.>> How many of them are fight-worthy?
The poorest Americans are actually not that poor, since they outweigh me by a few hundred pounds. Let's convert them into MREs :) They can feed our forces :)

And if you thought Berkely was bad, MIT has its share of trouble.

GXB> What is it between Duchess and Westchester? I never heard of this in the non-LI suburbs. Beisdes, Sue Kelly represents both counties.

Lain> Well, Libertarians are anti-Government. I'm surprised they don't exist in Canada.

Hyperion> No cure for smallpox? That could hit us, next. Remember the Omega Man?

Christine> I have the entire BlackAdder collection on DVD and that was the very first BlackAdder I ever saw.

Warpmind> Man, you defeated another myth. I guess Norway may not be enthusiastic about figting Afghanistan since thare's not much pillaging that hasn't been done already :)

DPH> Well, some liberals are good, provided they can't make policy, but the anti-American crowd area bunch of spoiled hypocrites with narrow minds who feel guilty about tehir big bank accounts, while leftist policies cause so many countries to have nothing.

SJ> Wrestling joke, huh?
Sadly not all who die in teh upcoming war will be Taliban, but the Afghanis will eb better fof when the Northern Alliance retakes teh country an dteh King is restored. America better not impose their democracy horsesh*t on them. The world needs a few monarchs left.

Fleur> I doubt everyone will carry a gun on a plane, but teh fact that it si possible will deter terrorists, plus it can't be worse than what happended on 9-11.

Imzadi> <<Do you know what ELSE we could do with that billion dollars!?>> I think it was referring to Bush doing it with his own disposable income. As for the billion dolalrs, Ted Turner donated it to the UN. What a waste of money.

I'm off for Lunch. Bubye
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
"Blessed are the Meek, ......for they shall be slaughtered!", Friar Bellows, the Black Seal
Thursday, September 27, 2001 02:39:09 AM
IP: bfce.hanau.army.mil

Ugh!

God its hot in here.

Aside from going to classes, I didn't do much today. I did some work and watched some TV. The good news is that I've almost finished all my assignments (each one has one problem left undone), which will leave me time to do my lab report tomorrow (I hope).

I figured out that the most uncomfortable place to !@#$ is not, in fact, in the back of a Volkswagen. Its in the back of a pickup truck under a tarp.

Robby: Nice tune. <<7:00 most timezones>>: It was 8.

Queen of Pain: <<Josh I you do follow my advice, try not to get into trouble>>: Huh?

Metaldemon: <<You thought you could catch me, huh>>: Its pretty easy to trip people up in the CR. <<Those guys are weird in their own respect>>: Watch it... <<I'm sure if Bush donated a billion dollars to the poor they would protest it>>: As a republican, I sure as hell would. Do you know what ELSE we could do with that billion dollars!? <<Have you gotten your vision checked latley? Sounds like your vision is really bad>>: I said the line was blurred, not the line LOOKS blurred. My vision is flawless, thank you.

Smut Pandering Bitch Queen of All Creation: <<fantasy hasn't done well in the theaters>>: Because its not as interesting as sci-fi. <<let's not forget how goshdarn old I am>>: 28, right?

Baldy: <<Do click my name for some interesting information on what could make an excellent tool for global domination>>: Too bad you could only use them to maintain control for a little while.

Aingeal: <<my roomie knows WAY too much about ST>>: Loser.

Jan: <>: I swear it makes life better. <<ever have one of those days when you know something is wrong like that but you just can't seem to figure it out?>>: No, sorry, I'm never wrong ;-) <<The scum rapes a 14 yr. old and receives one year... a mother keeps her children under the welfare umbrella so that they can receive medical care and food and she receives 3 years>>: The best part is that this is the justice system that YOU work for, yet you continue to bitch about it. <<Anna broke up with her boyfriend last night>>: Is the one responsible for Zach? <<My son is ordering one of these>>: Your son is a freak. No wonder he an answer for that spaceship question...DOH!

Carolynn: <<No Harley Quinn, no Catwoman>>: True, but girls wear much tighter clothing in the future, and I always support that. <<it ain't that bad>>: I am SO adapting that law for my Earth when I conquer it. <<he can massacre 10 million human beings>>: He didn't consider them animals. He thought they were beneath animals.

Spot: Nice song, but you forgot to write something funny about all the regular posters!

Gside: <>: EWWWWW. <>: Is it just me or does that seem kind of...infrequent? <<http://www.fuzzyfur.net/DSOS/adv/sarch.cgi?97>>: LOL! <<Talk to Gorebash>>: What's he gonna do about it? <<!$@#>>: My thoughts exactly. <<No, I am not>>: Ditto. <>: I think she's referring to the rest of us.

DPH: <<Seriously, what is justice>>: As if we know.

Yooper: <>: I've got a shirt that says "Berzerkeley Engineering". Custom made. Pretty funny.

SOROW: <<This has just been a really bad week>>: Sorry to hear that. Feel better.

Lynati: <>: Is that hard?

SJ: <<like impregnate young women behind his wife's back>>: Which is probably why the want him. <<ape - CENSORED SO AS NOT TO OFFEND SIOFRA'S DELICATE SENSIBILITIES>>: LOL! I can't wait to see you at G2k2 meeting all the people you piss off. Crzy asked if she could kick my ass...then didn't. I don't imagine she'll even ask with you. <<I'd have so much respect for Jesse if he became our ultimate war machine puppet>>: As a Republican, you should know that Jesse is one of the most dangerous creatures alive. <<Of course, this person had an imaginary girlfriend, so go figure>>: Gee, I wonder who THAT was. <<Had to work one into my posts sooner or later>>: I think you should make an effort to work one into EVERY post. Like the one at the beginning of mine. <<the more evil and depraved the act you commit, the easier your punishment>>: What's the penalty for attempted World domination? <<When I am king, I'm going to have to build brand new jails just to house all of the Limp Bizkit fans>>: Now I know what to put you in charge of when I take over: The Prison System. Let them "mosh" each other to death (or whatever it is they call their lame-ass partying). <<Which is why I don't trust vegetarians>>: My roommate had a bumper sticker that said "I EAT VEGANS".

Entity: <<they are completely butt-f*cking not only TOS>>: I bet that hurts.

*ENTERPRISE SPOILERS*

SJ: <<the winner of the absolute gayest theme song of any of the Trek shows>>: You are SO right! <<They better bring on the hot Vulcan chick soon, cause I'm already bored>>: Too bad she wasn't that hot. <<We got retro tech that, naturally, manages to look lightyears more advanced and cooler than anything on the original show, even though this series predates it by a 100 years>>: Well, we have to expect that and suspend disbelief for this since WE know that the show is being made 30 years later. I really don't think there's anything they can do about it. Notice the abscene of tractor beams in favor of "grapplers". <<will that EVER be explained>>: Don't bet on it. <<we get a really hot Vulcan chick for all of the fanboys to drool and….worse…..over>>: Dude, we didn't know how hot she was until she took her top off. However, no one will care if she doesn't change her outfit soon! <<Maxim - soft core porn, without the actual showing of nipples>>: I've got a subscription. You? <<who will cause some huge continuity error just to drive the Trekkies / Trekkers crazy>>: This is where being a gargoyles fan is utterly useless, because quite frankly you can't alter the past in THAT universe. <>: But we won't see it (and quite frankly, I've no desire to see Bakula naked). <<probably will be better than Voyager>>: I hope so. But it could be worse. <<great to see all of those Buffy spots during the ST:E show>>: You mean during EVERY commercial break?

Coyote: Happy B-day. <<our disastrous first contact with the Klingons just *has* to involve a farmer and a shotgun. Why does that *not* surprise me?>>: Welcome to Earth. <<Especially his digitally-stretched smile>>: "Whoa" was all my friends had to say to that one. <<T'Pol has my vote for new ice queen of the season>>: Is there any competition?

DPH: <<How can you have teleportation technology without replication technology>>: If anything, its the reverse. You can't have replicators without a transporter. <>: Yes, well, you aren't an explorer.

Mooncat: <<but the most unbelievable part for me is how Trigger (is that his name?) could rub gel all over her and not show the least sign of interest, unless he is not heterosexual>>: Well, before that scene, we had no idea how nice her breasts really were. <<an openly gay crew member>>: Will never see the inside of a starship.

*END ENTERPRISE SPOILERS*

Alrighty then time for sleep.

Look at me! I'm talking to treif!
-Uncle George, Duckman

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:16:25 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-27-38.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

SJ> The Klingons looked like hairy, oily-skinned humans in TOS because they were trying to conceal their true appearence from the Federation as an attempt at Empiric security. By showing Klingons that look like Klingons in "Enterprise" they are completely butt-f*cking not only TOS, but Star Trek: The Motion Picture and DS9. *shakes head* They can't even use the "what we say in the manuals and novels doesn't count" excuse.
Entity
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 09:50:40 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

Update on The First American War of the 21st Century (a new, revolutionary concept in warfare - they kill several thousand of us, and we just act all mad and revoke their library cards instead of retaliating!): The Taliban wants to speak with Jesse Jackson. They want the good Reverend to bring a peace faction over to Afghanistan to talk.

I know Jesse has this rep for being this great peace negotiator, but c'mon, does he really want to go to that place? The armpit of the world? I mean, he's got better things to do, like impregnate young women behind his wife's back.

Jesse has said that he will consider the request. I would say, hey, don't go, but then again, since it doesn't look like we're actually going to do anything to the terrorists other than wag our fingers at them, why not?

I say we take Jesse, brainwash him into thinking he's Shaft, then send him over there to meet with the towel-heads, with some hidden weapons. Then we get him to go "ape - CENSORED SO AS NOT TO OFFEND SIOFRA'S DELICATE SENSIBILITIES" and just kill everyone over there. Wow, I'd have so much respect for Jesse if he became our ultimate war machine puppet.

Robby: <<Tiny Toon Adventures song>> Dude, stick with the Zoloft.
And I thought Pazsaz DID have Gargoyles and Mighty Max episode guides. Along with dozens of other old, obscure cartoons. I don't ever remember watching the "3 Robonic Stooges", but it just sounds like a bad idea. I'm particularly surprised they have a listing for "Snorks". They're like Smurfs, only underwater! SMELL THE MERCHANDISING!!!

Metaldemon: <<Good thing for you I don't come close to listening to that type of music. Think Cannibal Corpse or Slayer, then you'll see how far away from Phish I am.>> That's perfectly fine with me. Just please don't start detailing a love for Quiet Riot or something like that. Last guy who I joked with about their choice in music got all angry because he felt I was questioning his sexuality. Of course, this person had an imaginary girlfriend, so go figure.
Yes, that was a Doug joke. Had to work one into my posts sooner or later.

Jannie: <<Where is the justice? The scum rapes a 14 yr. old and receives one year... a mother keeps her children under the welfare umbrella so that they can receive medical care and food and she receives 3 years.>> And OJ gets to kill 2 people, and he pretty much just spends the rest of his life playing golf. I think there's some sort of inverse scale working here; the more evil and depraved the act you commit, the easier your punishment. At this point, I'm trying to decide whether or not to cannibalize someone. I figure that, at worse, I get some community service.

Carolynn: <<While we're on topic, anyone remember when Batman: TAS first came out?>> I do. Still my favorite animated show ever. But I've always been a Batman mark. <<Return of the Joker almost made up for it.>> I wouldn't know, I've never seen it. And I will never watch it, until the bastards at Warner Bros restore it to the original version, instead of the "less-offensive" Disney-fied version we're left with now. <<I was reading in Time today that you can be arrested for listening to pop music…Okay, okay, seriously: rock music, pop, anything that isn't a hymn to the Taliban government (yes, they actually have songs praising the gov't) is illegal.>> That's not such a bad idea after all. When I am king, I'm going to have to build brand new jails just to house all of the Limp Bizkit fans. <<Speaking of Hitler, the guy was vegeterian.>> Which is why I don't trust vegetarians. They won't eat a Big Kahuna Burger to save their life, but when it comes to preserving human life….

Coyote: <<SJ, the song was originally a Rod Stewart song, titled "Faith of the Heart.">> Oh, and we all know that Rod Stewart just has a whole list of very macho, manly rock songs in his song catalog.
And hey, Happy Birthday. I had a wonderful 3-girl show planned for it, but Ravyn put the kibosh on that. Some women!

Wolf Lake: Currently in a heated race with the new "Emeril" sitcom to become the first cancelled show of the season. "Wolf Lake" = "Now and Again".

***ENTERPRISE REVIEW***

Okay, to all of you out there who are saying "Enterprise" is a great show, let me quote Chris Rock and say, "Slow down." What we got was a pretty good premiere / pilot episode. Whether the actual series will keep up the quality is still left to be seen.

As for the pilot…..well, what can I say. It was better than Voyager, but that's not saying anything. I mean, hell, even Deep Space Nine was pretty good for the first couple seasons, before it turned into the total Babylon 5 ripoff (JMS, why did you not sue?).

We got retro tech that, naturally, manages to look lightyears more advanced and cooler than anything on the original show, even though this series predates it by a 100 years. We got the humans and the Vulcans annoying each other. We got Klingons who look like Klingons (instead of the hairy humans of TOS….will that EVER be explained? Beyond the obvious "we have a budget for makeup!"). We have Samuel Beckett doing his best Captain Kirk impression, at I was just waiting for Al to show up and Archer to start babbling about when he was going to leap again. And we get a really hot Vulcan chick for all of the fanboys to drool and….worse…..over (how hot is she? Why, check out the current Maxim magazine! Maxim - soft core porn, without the actual showing of nipples.). Oh, and we got some sort of weird time-villain, who will cause some huge continuity error just to drive the Trekkies / Trekkers crazy.

Pretty decent plot. Interesting set-up for the villains. Nice interaction between the cast. I say T'Pol or whatever she's called, winds up banging the Captain, maybe by the end of the 1st season (depends upon how the ratings go). My bottom line: probably will be better than Voyager (can it not be?), might be on par with DS9 if it can keep up the quality shown in the pilot, and it refrains from ripping off any current popular science-fiction show (I swear, if I start seeing blue-skinned cleric aliens or living biomechanoid prison ships show up on Enterprise, I will hunt the writing team down).

BTW, great to see all of those Buffy spots during the ST:E show. Can't wait till Tuesday.
***END REVIEW***

"How'd you like a bucket of AIDS?!"
--- Mr. Garrison, South Park

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 09:24:08 PM
IP: 66-44-59-223.s477.tnt3.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

*leans in*

ooh, happy b-day, Coyote!

heh heh. I think I just scared the crap out of my sister. I sent her a reply to an email that was..umm..interesting in nature, esp. becasue I had someone else writing half the dialogue for the anwsers... heh heh heh.

*to bed*
Lynati
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 09:09:47 PM
IP: 2cust1.tnt1.kansas-city.mo.da.uu.net

**A loud, rumbling engine is heard approaching the CR. A section of one wall lifts up like a garage door, and a blue drag racing car speeds into the CR, towing a very large birthday cake behind it. The car screeches to a halt just in front of Coyote, and the driver, Ravyn, jumps out of the car, tosses her helmet aside, and hugs Coyote tightly**

Hey, all... I have a very important thing to say today...HAPPY BIRTHDAY, COYOTE!!!!!!!! :)

Hope it's a great one for ya, sweetheart. :) Pick yer flavor, have some cake, and whenever you're ready... **winks and motions toward the drag car** ...your limo awaits. ;)

And everyone in the CR, feel free to help yourselves to some cake too. ;)

**Passes out some cake to everyone, then goes back to plant a nice, big, romantic kiss on Coyote** :)

Happy Birthday, wonderful. :)
Ravyn "Heya, Birthday Boy" Maza
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:50:33 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Hey all. This has just been a really bad week so I don't have anything really exciting to say. I missed Star Trek, but I guess everyone seems to think it was good.
SOROW
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:45:37 PM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

Sorry for 2x post. I was just reading this article too, and figured I'd post it.

It's about the roots of the Western-Muslim conflict. (Written by a western author) I think it's important to see the grievances of these people, and to see it from their point of view too. After all, if we don't know how they think, it will be a lot harder to figure out where these SOBs are hiding.
Yooper - [jwprusi@up.net]
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:18:38 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

Wolf Lake and Enterprise Spoilers ---

Enterprise looks good. Not great, but better than Voyager. Like the Vulcan, but the most unbelievable part for me is how Trigger (is that his name?) could rub gel all over her and not show the least sign of interest, unless he is not heterosexual. If that's the case I'm really interested, because an openly gay crew member, especially such a macho one, would be fun to watch.

I'll actually have to see a few more episodes to know wether it's a keeper or not. As it was, I begrudged the end credits because they made me miss the first couple of seconds of...

"Wolf Lake" *^_^* -- my fave NEW show, tied with "Dead Last" So far Wolf Lake was more interesting to me than even Angel, and this show keeps getting better with each episode. Love the music. Love the dialogue. Love the Wolves.

End comments- Enterprise needs more sexual heat. This episode, with it's dancing girls, interspecies kisses and gel scenes had all the warmth of an uncooked potato. But the rest of the plot was kind of nifty.

But if I only had one empty video tape on Wednesdays, it's for Wolf Lake. I thought the graveyard scene, when the sister leaves the rose, was wonderful. I hope Ruby will be shown more in upcoming episodes.

ja ne
Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:15:44 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Looked at the article posted by GB. Had already read it, but thought it was a good read nonetheless. I will hereby always use the term 'Berzerkly'

I thought I'd post this one for a reaction. It's harsher on antiwar positions and pacifism than Malkin's column was.

I do think the guy's right, tho, myself.
Yooper - [jwprusi@up.net]
Houghton, MI
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:12:03 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

**ENTERPRISE SPOILERS**
ok, I only saw the last 1/2. One word: this is definitely low technology. There's this humans vs vulcans conflict, which is a good thing. One thing puzzles me though: How can you have teleportation technology without replication technology?

Next week's spoilers indicate stupidity: I would never ever enter someone else's starship WITHOUT permission. Think about how I would respond.
**END ENTERPRISE**

Jan - if there was justice in the world, wouldn't someone find a fault with it? Seriously, what is justice?

Life isn't simple, it's more complicated than you should know.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 07:36:13 PM
IP: max1-37.cwy.cei.net

Just throwing in two cents. The ST Enterprise looks like a great show. Tho I admit that I didn't like the premise at all, but the more I've read about it the more it sounded like it was getting back to the roots of the whole exploration deal. *Okies* that's my opinion.
HailerRo
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 07:23:55 PM
IP: 207.42.162.192

Fleur> <<It's a requirement of college>>: So far, I've opted out.
<<Those are two words that should never be seen together>>: I have another to add to the front: hermaphroditic. Yes, I have seen it.

Imzadi> <<since he's probably never been with one>>: He allegedly has a son or two.
<<Because Josh thinks about porn ALL THE FREAKIN TIME>>: I believe the statistic is that men think about sex every seven seconds.
<<The irony is that it doesn't>>: I added the should just for you. Though I did mean more compatability with other systems, not software to be installed on the system.
<<Or female?>>: Nah, the writing love thing definitely represents more of a female aspect.
<<LOL>>: No, really, see http://www.fuzzyfur.net/DSOS/adv/sarch.cgi?97
<<Its not a very smart CR, is it?>>: Talk to Gorebash.
<<What is a "semi" kitten?>>: You can find them in Wilek's leftover bin.
Warpmind> <<How do the hobbits get away from the Barrow-Whights then?>>: We shall have to wait to find out.

Carolyn> <<since we're off for Yom Kippur>>: !$@#

Fleur> <<We?re tiny>>: No, I am not.
<<When we gutterminds forget/The room is rated a PG>>: I do attempt to keep all my individual words at a decent level.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 07:12:26 PM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

**ENTERPRISE SPOILERS AHEAD!**

Okay, just finished watching it ...

... and might I say, this is a good start. True, the themesong leaves a bit to be desired (SJ, the song was originally a Rod Stewart song, titled "Faith of the Heart."), but the plotline made up for it. Of course, our disastrous first contact with the Klingons just *has* to involve a farmer and a shotgun. Why does that *not* surprise me? :)

Highlights:
*Unlike past Trek captains, Archer is not tiptoeing around his language, especially when someone pisses him off.
*It's gonna take a while for Hoshi to get her space legs, methinks, but in the meantime it'll be fun watching someone who *ISN'T* old-hat to space react to everything the way probably 99% of everyone would react if they were dropped into her shoes.
*Dr. Phlox. His face freaks me out. Especially his digitally-stretched smile. But all in all he's pretty cool, considering many of his treatments verge on the medieval.
*T'Pol has my vote for new ice queen of the season ... though she seemed to warm to Archer by the end.
*Last thing ... the temporal communication chamber was a pretty cool sequence, especially in the way the phaser got fired ... very Matrix-ish. :)

**END ENTERPRISE SPOILERS!!**
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 06:45:19 PM
IP: 64.243.214.105

*buries head in hands* My creativity demons are evil, evil I tell ya!
For Robby and Josh. Because you fed them.

We’re tiny, we’re tooney.
We’re all a little looney
And in this comment roomey,
We’ve lost our sanity!

With comic, dispensers
We sometimes need a censor
When we gutterminds forget
The room is rated a PG!

Soooo here's the comment room
Its a whole wide world apart
Our home sweet home
It stands alone, a Gargoyles work of art!

Normality’s rejected
Expect the unexpected
In the TGS comment Room
Fun never has to _start_!

We're Tiny, We're tooney,
We're all a little looney,
It's the comment roomey
So come join in the fun!
And now my song is done

Fleur
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 06:31:19 PM
IP: proxy3.mel.pacific.net.au

*scrubs at her forehead* I just got back from my Intro to Religion fieldtrip to a Hindu temple, and I now have this huge red dot of powder on my forehead. It was nice getting it, but now it just smears *whips out soap*

BTW, for all you out there with a cold, try some yoga. I did and my cold improved dramatically. Plus, it worked out the kinks in my back :) Just a lil' personal recommendation. Cheaper than a chiropractor! SWEET!

CHRISTINE< Frighteningly enough, Matt's uncle Ray sounds too much like my maternal grandmother, right down to the sour look and the "I'm ready to pitchfork you" face. That alone sent me in stitches. It's funny laughing at family when it's a) fiction and b) someone's else's :)

SPACEBABIE< Ah, another sniffling, sneezing person. I feel your pain!
<<6. a bottle of Tussen with honey. Mary Poppins was close a spoonful of honey is what helps the medicine go down. If you can't find the medicine with the honey already in then mix in some honey, or buy Dimetapp
7:Sobe Lizzard Blizzard, I LOVE that stuff, plus its got echinecia in it
8: Ramen noodles in a cup, I prefer that to ordinary chicken soup >>

Aaaamen.

<<... gotta kick 'em in the sweet spot>> Double aaaamen!

ROBBY< "Buster Bunny" "Babs Bunny" "No relation"
And let's not forget Mr. Skullhead!

While we're on topic, anyone remember when Batman: TAS first came out? I never took to Batman Beyond, myself. No Joker, no Harley Quinn, no Catwoman, no original ass-kicking Bruce Wayne ... *sighs* Return of the Joker almost made up for it. Almost.

FLEUR< *about the dude flipping out on the airplane* Geez ... y'know, it makes me wonder if cockpits don't have a lock and a really thick door. It might've nipped everything in the bud and prevented a tragedy. Sure, passengers might've died, which I'm in no way trying to downplay, but better a few people than several buildings' worth *sighs*
<<Did I mention all the Taliban were perverted creeps?>>
Oh, it gets better ... the music thing? I was reading in Time today that you can be arrested for listening to pop music (Hey, it ain't THAT bad!! Well, that's up for debate ... but ... *g*). Okay, okay, seriously: rock music, pop, anything that isn't a hymn to the Taliban government (yes, they actually have songs praising the gov't) is illegal. People can't even sing in their own homes above a whisper in fear they could be arrested or beaten up. There was a segment on the news today from a student journalist in Pakistan, showing a refugee camp. Each person has 1/2 gallon of water a day, so they have to use it for drinking or cooking; forget bathing. Needless to say, with little hygiene, disease is rampant. No electricity. Boys (no girls allowed) go to school in tents. Most parents send their kids into the city to beg or steal, so many don't go to school. All these folks have fled Afghanistan. One camp was 23 years old; I didn't even know they were having such problems in that country until 1996, when the Taliban took over!

What I'm wondering now is how the Taliban even got power. Hitler got it through legal means, believe it or not, but I'm wondering how someone as crazy as the Taliban came to be, or even who the head is (notice they always say "the Taliban", never President/Leader/Mr. So and So?)

CAROLYNN'S PSYCHO FACT OF THE DAY< Speaking of Hitler, the guy was vegeterian. He didn't approve of harming animals. If the circumstances weren't so dire, I'd laugh. Sure, we can massacre 10 million human beings, but kill Henry the Cute Little Defenseless Turkey? Heaven forbid!

<<>Greg> >if you ever wanted to fly anywhere in the world, now's the time. The Airlines are so desperate they're slashing their prices by 20%. Some even more.< >>

Well, if you can, go see a Broadway play. A bunch of us are going tomorrow since we're off for Yom Kippur, and most plays have slashed prices to an all-time ridiculous low. Two of my friends got into Cabaret this week for $10 each. You have to show up at the door, though. I doubt it'd work over the internet...

<<I did hear one hilarious thing today. It was in the Globe tabloid. According to the Globe, Osama bin Laden, Public Enemy #1, has a medical condition…..with his genitalia. He's hung like a pimple, apparently. And his hatred of America, according to the Globe, is because once upon a time an American girl saw him, and laughed at his….condition. I SO want this to be true. That's be just perfect. Then I could call him ball-less all I want, and be perfectly accurate! >>

Oh, LOL!! Reminds me of when Marla tells Jack in "Fight Club" when they're fighting over who should go to the testicle cancer meeting: "Well, I should get to go 'cuz technically you still have your balls"
Man, if there was ever a time to wish the tabloids had suddenly gone truthful on us, now's the moment, people!!! Ha!
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 06:17:40 PM
IP: pc169-2.drew.edu

Robby> drats, can't get that either. =\ I have soooo got to get satellite!

Did anyone watch the new show, Wolf Lake last week? I did but was very disappointed in it. I'm going to watch it again tonight in hopes that it will drastically improve.

Josh> *slaps forehead* ferry! geesh, ever have one of those days when you know something is wrong like that but you just can't seem to figure it out? *brainfart* thanks :)

Injustice:
I met the creep who is in jail for kidnapping and raping a 14 year old. He's gross and made me gag. This asshole received one year in the county jail (us) and had already served 6 months before his trial that was applied to his sentence. That's it. One frickin' year for rape & kidnapping of a 14 year old neighbor child.
Now, there's this lady who was on the welfare program for assistance of her children. She did not receive any direct support, but her children received free medical care and a small amount of money each month. She got married again and he turned out to be a real looser. He was constantly unemployed, drunk, beat up on her, etc. She did not notify the state welfare dept. that she had remarried (she was filing for a divorce almost immediately after the marriage began). They charged her with welfare fraud and she is now serving THREE years in jail.
Where is the justice? The scum rapes a 14 yr. old and receives one year... a mother keeps her children under the welfare umbrella so that they can receive medical care and food and she receives 3 years. She was divorcing the guy and he didn't work! *shakes head* very sad, indeed.

Over the weekend a 54 yr old drunk was thrown into jail.... come to find out, he is the sole keeper of his 96 yr old mom who is pretty much bed-ridden. The police go out to mom's to take her to a nursing home and she pulls a shotgun on them! *chuckles* I had visions of Granny Clampett ;) They had to get a judge's 96 hour hold on her and have her taken to the nursing home. They said that it was filthy there and the officers's were gagging from the stench. They had to clear out a path in the trash for the ambulance attendents to be able to get to her. o.O

Anna had another sonagram this morning :) The baby is definitely a boy... Zach. In one picture, Zach was clasping his hands in front of his face.. awwww!! He looked more like a baby this time instead of an alien.
Anna broke up with her boyfriend last night! *happy feet dance* I don't know if they'll stay apart, but for now, I'm happy! I've tried to keep out of it as much as possible. I just listen... well and sometimes casually throw in my humble opinion ;)

Metaldemon> <<Those guys are weird in their own respect. They're just out to protest WHATEVR America does.>> amen!

Spacebabie> I hope you feel better soon! *gentle hugs*
<<Punch them back or kick them in the sweet spot, thats what America has to do, we have to kick the Taliban in the sweet spot.>>
You go, girlfriend! *giggles*

Just when you thought life couldn't get any scarier... click on my name ;) My son is ordering one of these O.o
Jan
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 06:16:53 PM
IP: modem18-109.mo-net.com

Ok warps... i'm officially afraid. :D I think i'm going to start watching the bugs around here.... you never know....

And Servarius, I've been informed that the new ST theme may have competetion from the Original series.... appaerntly there are wds to that that weren't played... be afraid... my roomie knows WAY too much about ST...
Aingeal
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 05:18:28 PM
IP: 207.42.162.161

Well, I've watched all of 5 minutes of the new Trek show, and ALREADY, it's made history.

By far, the winner of the absolute gayest theme song of any of the Trek shows! Huzzah!

They better bring on the hot Vulcan chick soon, cause I'm already bored.
Sevarius Jr.
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 04:30:24 PM
IP: 66-44-72-129.s129.tnt10.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Just a reminder everyone, tonight is the premiere of the new Trek series. 7:00 most timezones, on UPN. I'm not really expecting much from it, but who knows, it might be good with an entirely new cast and creative team behind it. I think we'll be able to judge the general quality to expect not too far into the episode...

To be honest, I'm just watching to see how long it takes before Scott Bakula mutters to himself, "Oh boy."
Robby
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 03:02:49 PM
IP: ac8903b7.ipt.aol.com

*Warpmind enters, grinning.*
Guys, gals... found a link that shows great potential... I think I just found the means for the Nereus Project to conquer the world. }:)

Entity: The Grimorum Arcanorum being a book of dark evil... that *could* be partly because the Vatican seems to think *all* magic is evil. Me, I'd like to study the Grimorum Arcanorum for myself and see if that is right, but, well... fat chance. :(

Gside: Right, no Tom. Big, bad mistake. How do the hobbits get away from the Barrow-Whights then?

Jan: Great! Thanks! :)

SJ: That's less relevant, albeit somewhat correct - but the lettering shouldn't be visible on the outside of the ring, is all.

Fleur: Good point...

Josh: Unique? Imagine the realities I had to tweak to get versions of them to even *cooperate*... But I digress... The "random" quantum particles - simple: Squiffy has a built-in randomizer, converting all of the targets' individual particles into different quantum particles in no preset order. Very entertaining. And painful. Don't forget painful. };)

And that's about it. Do click my name for some interesting information on what could make an excellent tool for global domination. "Joe's Apartment" was NOTHING in comparison. }:)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 09:27:42 AM
IP: mp-217-216-211.daxnet.no

LotR > yeah, basically, my nit about the elves was that I wanted them to look more ethereal and, well, _elven_. Vulcanesque ears isn't enough for me ; ) But I'm looking forward to it anyway, oh, you bet!

And as SJ surmised, so's about every gamer out there, from what I hear ... especially given how deeply disappointed most of us were with the D&D movie (hissss!). Traditionally, 'fantasy' hasn't done well in the theaters, or produced many 'good' movies (some exceptions would include Ladyhawke and The Princess Bride, according to the gang on Pyramid). Many fantasy fans are hoping that this will be the beginning of a new era.

Josh > re: cheap school -- well, that eleven grand in loans didn't include all the work-study and the grants. Plus, let's not forget how goshdarn old I am ... I finished with my BA in 1990, and tuition's gone up steeply since then.

Carolyn Marie > "Flashie Thing" was a hoot to write, I must say! Matt is a fun character, and coming up with a family background for him was an interesting challenge.

Forgot what else I was going to say. Off to bed!
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:45:09 AM
IP: 16-162.075.popsite.net

SJ> <<You have some explaining to do, hippie.>>
Well, it all started about a month ago--hey! You thought you could catch me, huh? :)
<>
Good thing for you I don't come close to listening to that type of music. Think Cannibal Corpse or Slayer, then you'll see how far away from Phish I am.

Berkely> *rolls eyes* Those guys are weird in their own respect. They're just out to protest WHATEVR America does. I'm sure if Bush donated a billion dollars to the poor they would protest it.
Imzadi> <<The lines are often blurred>> Have you gotten your vision checked latley? Sounds like your vision is really bad! :)
LOTR> Oh, man! I can't wait for this. Everyhthing looks awesome: costumes, makeup, cinematography, editing, visuals, lighting. *trembles with excitement* So far, this movie looks flawless. I'll admit I didn't have much confidence in Elijah Wood, but he actually looks like he might do a decent job.
Later.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 07:44:45 AM
IP: nt93442.decal.unt.edu

I too am one of the ill, and yes I did go to classes while feeling all icky and yucky.

I have my cold supplies
1: package of Sudafed, for the morning
2:one package of Nyquil gel caps for the night, why gel caps? Cause that stuff is the nastiest tasting stuff on the planet.
3:box of kleenex
4:Fast acting nasal spray
5: Replacment astma inaheler, sometimes when I'm ill I get an attack
6. a bottle of Tussen with honey. Mary Poppins was close a spoonful of honey is what helps the medicine go down. If you can't find the medicine with the honey already in then mix in some honey, or buy Dimetapp
7:Sobe Lizzard Blizzard, I LOVE that stuff, plus its got echinecia in it
8: Ramen noodles in a cup, I prefer that to ordinary chicken soup
9: Jello, I tend to crave it when I'm feeling under the weather.

I watched Dateline last night. The first segment was depressing. It was about the sixth graders that went on a field trip and the plane they were on crashed into the Pentagon.

After seeing that I keep thinking about those God Damned Hippy wannabees who think we should do nothing. Makes these tree hugging daisy pickers watch that segment over and over gain

Or Better yet Punch them in the arm. If they do nothing punch them again. keep doing it until they hit you back. Whats my point

Terrorists are like bullies. They pick o you and hurt you for no good reason, and if you do nothing they attack you again. You start to live in fear and are constantly looking over your shoulder. Bullies are also cowards, they stop when you strike bak. Punch them back or kick them in the sweet spot, thats what America has to do, we have to kick the Taliban in the sweet spot.

and Josh I you do follow my advice, try not to get into trouble.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, USA
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 06:55:57 AM
IP: proxy.ord.netsetter.com

Eh, just to prove I really know the show all too well, here's a random quote that I don't know why I have memorized... (Particularly since I never do the quote aloud, it being a female part and all...)

"Oooooh... my totally awesome beau, you are like ripe brie in my arms... (kiss, kiss)
What's this? My jiggling gigolo wants to play hide and go seek? I am almost finding you, my little pepperoni of passion...
Where are you, my little burger du fromage? Your French fried tomatoe is missing you!
... Alone again! Poor, poor Fifi. No one loves you. Le boo! Le hoo! Le boo hoo."
-Fifi LaFume

And the CR clock is waaaay off... My clock says 3:30, which means its 4:30 on the east coast...
Robby
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:58:56 AM
IP: ac87a23a.ipt.aol.com

SJ- Pity the site doesn't list Gargs or Mighty Max, eh?

Fleur- Since I'm to blame for the tune getting stuck in your head, perhaps this'll help.

We're tiny, we're tooney
We're all a little looney
And in this cartooney,
We're invading your TV!

We're comic, dispensors
We crack up all the censors
On Tiny Toon Adventures
Get a dose of comedy!

Soooo here's Acme Acres
Its a whole wide world apart
Our home sweet home
It stands alone, a cartoon work of art!

The scripts were, rejected
Expect the unexpected
On Tiny Toon Adventures
It's about to start!

They're furry, They're funny,
They're Babs and Buster Bunny,
Montana Max has money,
Elmyra is a pain!

Meet Hampton, and Plucky,
Dizzy Devil's ducky
Furball's unlucky,
And Gogo is insane!

At Acme Looniversity,
We earn our toon degree
The teaching staff's
Been getting laughs
Since 1933!

We're Tiny, We're tooney,
We're all a little looney,
It's Tiny Toon Adventures
And now come join the fun!
And now my song is done

And yes, I'm up entirely too late. Or in this case, entirely too early...
Robby
Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:49:48 AM
IP: ac87a23a.ipt.aol.com

::flops on the couch again::

Jeez I'm tired. I crashed last night around 1 and woke up at 7AM! Why!? Because I went with Vinay and Ian to Seybold SF, a big publishing expo/conference hosted by Apple in San Francisco. Ian was able to score us free tickets to the Keynote Address by Phil Schiller (we missed Steve Jobs do his opening).

No new hardware was announced, the start of the show was OS X 10.1. For all you who don't know, this is the major update to the operating system that was released in March. All gripes about OS X can pretty much be put to rest now. There's DVD playback, CD burning, all the interface quirks were fixed (and a bunch of new ones were added), and the system is MUCH more stable (although personally I've never experienced an OS X crash on any machine I've ever used it on).

After the 10.1 demo, we heard from a number of product managers from Apple, Adobe, Alias WaveFront, NewTek, and Microsoft.

Apple announced that iDVD 2 for Mac OS X would be released next month, and that AppleScript Studio would be released before the end of the year. AppleScript Studio is like a Codewarrior-style application for scripting (PERL, too!). Microsoft announced the availability of Word X beta, which I've downloaded (but haven't had time to try yet). Alias demonstrated the amazing 3D modelling/animation of Maya, and NewTek did similar for Lightwave; both products available for OS X. Its hard to make a Mac user that owns a cracked-out top-of-the-line machine drool...but they did. I was blown away by the stuff they can do with that software. Yes, they used high-end machines...but guess what? That's what I've got. That means *I* can do that stuff.

For all my bitching about Microsoft a few days ago, I really have to praise the MacBU (Macintosh Business Unit), the group in Microsoft that's responsible for their Macintosh applications. They've really outdone themselves this time, creating an office suite that not only takes advantage of the mac's features, but also integrates them. Office is finally starting to look like a set of macintosh applications. Only took a billion years. Of course, I should expect this quality of product from a unit full of guys who wear shirts that say "I don't do Windows" (no joke! and these are employees of M$, too!).

Now, whether or not I'll use the software remains to be seen. It may be a great application, and the fact that Office can no longer take down my whole system (I LOVE UNIX!!) is very enticing...but as a computer user I feel like I should be doing my best to keep Microsoft in the hole...so maybe I'll just pirate their software and only use it when PC users send me word documents. As it is, I hear the Word X beta has no printing capabilities. Silly Microsoft people.

After the keynote, we scored free copies of OS X 10.1 upgrade CD's, which came with OS 9.2.1 upgrade CD's (you need them for the classic environment). Then we walked around the expo floor. We stopped at the Apple booth where I saw the standard Apple fare: G4's hooked up to Cinema Displays (and even one hooked up to TWO Cinema Displays) and digital cameras. We got several beautiful posters of my G4 tower to distribute. We also went to the Epson, Canon, and HP booths (we've got beefs with the various printer/digital camera comapnies) and asked a boatload of questions about new products and driver development status and other stuff. After stealing some posters printed by Epson's $13,000 printers, we left. All in all we were there about 4 hours.

It was a blast (as if you couldn't tell).

So that required me to skip my math lecture. This was difficult for me, as you know how much I love my math lectures, but I got over it in time (0.0023 seconds, to be exact).

I got back just in time to get to my next couple classes and then get stood up for a meeting with my lab partner to do our lab and collect our results.

Anyway, on to replies!

Todd: Welcome back! <<It really shows just how much she's grown since she first showed up in "Buffy">>: Did she get a bigger bra? <>: They probably can't and someone f*cked up.

Green Baron: <<article>>: Its all so true. As a Republican (or maybe just as an intelligent, educated human being - the line is often blurred) it makes me sick the way Berkeley reacts to these events. Please let it be known that I do not share any of the views of the idiots discussed in this article, and that as soon as I can get out of here I will. The fact remains that this is the best Civil Engineering school in the world (and with 5 tech courses, who's got time for liberal brainwashing?) and I'll stay here until I graduate or until the climate here becomes such that Republicans are banned from the campus.

Lain: <<the CRAP party>>: Must not be Scottish. <<half-naked anime babes with "made in japan" stamped in red across their chests>>: which half?

Smut Pandering Bitch Queen of All Creation: <<haven't seen it, have no desire to see it>>: Me neither. Didn't stop me, though :-( <<five years of school, eleven grand in student loans, and for this>>: Damn, your school was cheap!

Entity: <<assuming Tolkien wasn't a male supremecist or someone who simply couldn't write women, the reason there were a lack of interesting female characters in his books was probably because he was writing for young males>>: I'd bet it was because he couldn't write women, since he's probably never been with one. <<Was anyone else aware that the Grimorum Arcanorum is REAL?>>: No, but that is pretty cool. <<is reportedly a book of dark evil?>>: I'm shocked. <<I'm also surprised Weisman and crew had the gall to make reference to it, considering the potential controversy>>: Whatever. Having Gargoyles and sorcery in the first place was enough for controversy. And if that didn't, nothing would.

Baldy: Been a while. <<Riff, Wilek Nereus and Nikola Tesla.>>: What a...unique...combination. <<random quantum particles>>: What is a "random" quantum particle?

Carolynn: <<sucks having a cold and still having to go to class>>: Welcome to college. <<testosterone fest>>: Personally, i think that one works best. Since if you've ever seen a bunch of guys watching a movie with explosions and scantily clad women...that's just what you've got. Testosterone. Lots. <<I'm wondering why Josh automatically thinks of porn>>: Because Josh thinks about porn ALL THE FREAKIN TIME.

Lynati: <<My first order of business shall be to addict her to webcomics>>: You ripe bastard! ;-)

Revel: <>: Is that because he's based on me? If he is, you might note that most mac addicts are NOT like me.

Gside: <<everyone else uses it, therefore we should have fewer compatability problems>>: The irony is that it doesn't. At least if something works on mac its labelled as such and there's no confusiong. Technically, the mac only has compatibility problems if you're a moron. <<Where are all those equal rights advocates on this issue>>: I'm right here. Ironic that on THIS equal-rights issue, I don't have the support of my campus. <<Are you sure you're an engineer>>: Or female? <<And does 1502 damage to Dvl. Gnats>>: LOL. <<the CR thinks you're referring to a subdirectory of itself>>: Its not a very smart CR, is it?

Re: Angel: I'm sorry, I've been absent. Who's Darla?

DPH: <<how can they refuse to give up if they completed surrounded and out of ammo>>: See Japanese during WWII.

Jan: <<she’d have to remove her panties with a putty knife>>: Thank you for that lovely image, really. <<Detective was sent out today to discuss a UFO sighting by an 85 year old woman>>: They don't see ANYTHING. <<Remind me to never be put in jail>>: I know you're the next "Bonnie" so it'll be tough. <<The sheriff still refuses to allow me to carry a gun>>: GOOD! <<What if everyone had that same attitude>>: Fortunately that doesn't happen. The Categorical Imperative doesn't hold in the real world because everyone DOESN'T behave the same way. <<We’d be living under a communistic government now>>: But if EVERYONE thought the same way, that'd be a good thing. That's why communism hasn't worked yet: some of us are greedy (me). <>: Ditto. <<Aaron chose to pick mine out and correct me>>: You made it several times. <<via a fairy (is that the proper spelling for this?>>: No, its "ferry". Fairies are the flying magical things. <<2 semi-kittens>>: What is a "semi" kitten? <>: Switch to Jolt. <<Eastern Star organization>>: RUN! She's a cultist! <<we have white squirrels here>>: Is this a racist thing? <<my mom thinks I’ve lost my crackers because she has never seen one>>: Are you sure that's why she thinks that? ;-) <>: I'm sure he's around.

Aingeal: <<I'm SOOOO Glad i'm not you>>: Me too. Because then by association I'd be female, and I don't think I could deal with the responsibility.

Sevarius Jr: <<we're really working hard at……freezing assets>>: Isn't it important to not only physically attack our enemies, but to eliminate their funding as well? <>: Now I know what to play when I take over. <<the proper way to sodomize a human being with a nighstick>>: OUCH. <<and the only people really seeing a whole lot of action are our accountants>>: Welcome to the US. Where the hell have you been? <<You women, with your insults>>: I have so many great replies to this, but saying any would start a flame war against women, which probably wouldn't be as much fun as it sounds. <<Ah, the Hitler Channel>>: We call it "The War Channel". <<Some foolish part of my brain that still believes in honor or courage thinks running away is cowardly>>: Well that's one less country to give away. <<Don't forget the back door>>: "Enter at your own risk". <>: I would have too. <<Go to www.technicalvirgin.com for some testimonials>>: LOL. Did you check out the links page? "Falwell Ministries - He does not endorse !@#$ %^&, but we think he's an @$$hole." <<every cool thing that Ash has ever said in the Evil Dead films has been stolen by Duke Nukem. Disgraceful>>: I didn't realize that. My bad. Duke Sucks. <<Oooh! Can I be the Minister of Hate?>>: You may not! But if you're good I'll give you a country. <<the movie had cooler giant bugs>>: And was about fascism. <<Which, if I may take things full circle, has caused and created more problems than any other method in history>>: And solved exactly NONE! <<What, are you taking lessons from Gunjack now?>>: I expected you to tell her to f*ck off. <<we've been coming here for 50 years and performing anal probes and all that we have learned is that 1 in10 doesn't really seem to mind>>: Technicalvirgin.com at work! <<according to Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, you're the cause of the WTC catastrophe? You have some explaining to do, hippie>>: Let's take him outside and beat the sh*t out of him! <<as long as you don't start discussing your love of the group Phish>>: Aside from your utter hatred of anything written before you were born...what's wrong with phish? <<it's nice to know that even in here I am not free from spam>>: She needs to be next to Osama at the NYPD's anal rapage by nightsticks. <<And knowing is half the battle, G.I. f'ing Joe>>: And the other half is getting ambushed by your butthole enemies who plow aircraft into your buildings. <>: I've never seen such unbridled optimism from you. Are you feeling alright?

Spot: <<If I have to do another medical, I'm going to BITE somebody>>: That won't look good on the rabies test. <<We're tiny, we're toony, we're all a little loony>>: That should be the motto for the CR. <<Especially since I can only remember that line>>: "And in this cartoony we're invading your TV!" <<This is me, turning purple from the effort of holding in all the smart ass and entirely CR-inappropriate stuff I want to say>>: "I am Jack's raging hard-on". <<Okay, now I'm disturbed>>: But are you down with the sickness? <<It's a requirement of college>>: I hope to miss that one. <<in the last two days I've drank more Coke than I have in the past two weeks>>: My roommate and I eat through 8 flats of soda in about 3 weeks. That's 8x24 cans. <<Those are two words that should never be seen together>>: THANK YOU! <<Just please, give us some viagra!>>: Um... <<there's always going to be a nut with a grudge>>: And if no one else, me. <<Dark Prince of Vinyl>>: Damn right I am! <<Did they put up a baby photo in the main cafe as well>>: Wouldn't matter. No one goes there. <<Bitter much>>: Not as bitter about THAT specifically as I am about the way its applied to my own choice of platform. <<Not the right figure, I know>>: The various surveys put it somewhere between 8% and 5%. <<So if you wanna screw everything up, you write a virus for Windows instead>>: I know this. But you also have to understand that viruses are much easier to write for Windows because of all the security holes in Outlook, which the vast majority of windows users use for their email. <<It's a pity there isn't a smilie for a complete lack of surprise>>: "There IS no emoticon for what I'm feeling right now." - The Simpsons. <<This includes ALL the hair on my body>>: Too much info for me. <<Price Hike, here we come>>: Yeah, but who the hell wants to go there? <<But your grandparents, and possibly even your parents would be completely immune>>: But if it were dropped on a city...millions of children would die. And me. And that would suck.

Okay folks its early but I'm crashing anyway because I'm WIPED.

They've really got my balls in a salad shooter.
-Mr. Tweek, South Park

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:56:23 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-191.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Damn, left this off.

Hyperion> >came up with this likke gem: smallpox. I won't go into details here, but it's fast-spreading, deadly and there is no cure...the perfect biologial weapon...< Except that anybody over forty is already immune to it. *warning: now going into scientist mode* Smallpox is the germ we immunologists use all the time as an example of how good we are. It used to be rampant, but the immunization program against it was so successful that it has only killed one person in the last fifteen years. (Although you could say two people died as a result of it. Apparently, a scientist was working on the disease and their lover caught it off them and died. The scientist was so guilt-ridden they shot themself.) There's a technical name, which has exited by brain via my ears, but because there's been no actual infections, so to speak, it's been declared a 'dead disease' and thus, nobody has been vacinated against it for years. But your grandparents, and possibly even your parents would be completely immune. To their generation, it would be about as useful as a biological weapon as polio (which is next on the 'dead disease' list. If nobody catches it in the next five years or so, it's bye bye polio! :)).

Fleur
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:09:04 PM
IP: proxy2.mel.pacific.net.au

*comes in and collapses*
I hate it when RL gets frantic. Busy, I like. But frantic is when I don't have time to do _anything_, I'm just ticking off the boxes on a massive mental 'to do' list. Aside from the complete head messing the funeral gave me, I had tests and assignments due in and completely redundant job interviews to go to. (Every christmas, Australia Post hires extra people to work in their mail centres, to deal with the rush. I went through all the tests last year, got the job, got nothing but praise from my supervisor, but for some completely unfathonable reason, I had to go back for an 'interview' AGAIN this year. Which meant I spent two useless hours filling in forms. There was no point, no reason I couldn't have just had the forms mailed out, filled them in at home and sent them back to them. If I have to do another medical, I'm going to BITE somebody.)
Okay, end of rant. Grumpy Fleur will now go back to her box.

Thanks again to everybody for the warm fuzzies. Hugs are a huge help, even the cyber variety.

Tim> congratulations on signing up. *grumbles* I wish I could join the army. I was thinking about joining four years ago and getting my degree through them ('I'd be like Rene Russo in 'Outbreak'!'), but there's no way in hell I'd pass the physical. Pass _out_, maybe. ;)>YOU WANT IRRATIONAL, BITCH?!!< *backs waaay up and lingers near a strong-looking table* Wow. I am deeply impressed.

Robby> >Yesterday marked the 11th anniversary of the debut of Tiny Toon Adventures< 'We're tiny, we're toony, we're all a little loony' You know, I have a horrible feeling this song will now replace the Inspector Gadget one for 'most annoying tune to have dancing around your head.' Especially since I can only remember that line. >Its gonna be a post entirely about porn.< This is me, turning purple from the effort of holding in all the smart ass and entirely CR-inappropriate stuff I want to say. ;) >Powerpuff Girls porn.< Okay, now I'm disturbed.

SOROW> >I'm sorry to hear about your grandmother, and you and your family are in my prayers.< *hugs* Thanks. >And I officially got drunk off my ass for the first time last night. It was horrible, I had about 8 shots of Vodka mixed with V8. And I threw up all over my friend's bed! How embarrassing!< You're supposed to get drunk at least once. Then your friends are supposed to tease you mightily about the funny things you did, until somebody else gets drunk and does funny stuff. It's a requirement of college. ;) >I just made the UT Dance Team!< Congratulations! >I'm going out with that guy again!< Ah, the start of something sweet! And no, I'm not laughing at you. My two best friends dated for over two years, and on the first night _they_ met, we went out and she smashed her car into a guardrail. Next day, he came around and asked me 'What's her phone number?' :D (I LOVE that story.)

Coyote> *TACKLE HUG* Heelloo!! How's your new house?

*goes off to get a drink* You know, in the last two days I've drank more Coke than I have in the past two weeks. What is really weird is that yesterday I started a major assignment about the evidence that Coke can cause osteoporosis! Subliminal advertising in the 'Journal of Pediatrics and Adolescent Health' articles!!

Fire Storm> >Digimon erotica.< *blinks* Those are two words that should never be seen together.

Green Baron> I read the article you linked to. It might work against terrorists, but I *really* wouldn't want somebody with a fear of flying to be carrying one. My best friend was on a plane to Queensland a couple of years ago, and one of the passengers went nuts and started screaming for the pilot to land the plane immediately, then he jumped up and tried to open one of the doors. It took four people to restrain him. He was an extreme case, but planes get people who snap or get drunk a hell of a lot more often than hijackers. One or two official people with a gun would be a better idea, especially if the guns were concealed, so nobody had an idea WHO was carrying one. >Well, it would be more amusing to render the Taliban permanently impotent.< *ROTFL!* 'Here! We'll give you Osama Bin Laden, anything! Just please, give us some viagra!!'>Children< I'm sorry. David G is right about your grief. Don't feel guilty, it hits everybody differently.

DPH> >How many people out there believe we can be truly free of terrorism?< Not me. Unfortunately, there's always going to be a nut with a grudge.

Siofra> >My boyfriend's grandma passed away this afternoon, and its been kind of a sad day.< Give him my condolences.

Dark Prince of Vinyl> >Let's just say he had to, uh...fake...on stage< *LOL!* I went to a housewarming on Saturday, and we played 'Battle of the Sexes'. Funniest thing I've ever seen in my life is watching reaction of the 'good catholic girl' when her 'question' told her to reenact the faking scene from When Harry Met Sally. hehehe >Look folks, I'm 20!!!< HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! >walks in wearing a stupid-looking festive pointy-hat:: ::points:: They did this to me.< Did they put up a baby photo in the main cafe as well? (yes, my friends DO this. Thank god my birthday's after the semester ends)>And yet, more companies and more government agencies standardize on windows. Why? Because "Everyone uses it, therefore it must be the best." < Bitter much? :) Although you've nailed the reason why there's so many Windows viruses. If you want to do the maximum amount of damage, you don't write a virus for computer systems that what, 10% of the population use? *shrugs* Not the right figure, I know, but there's a hell of a lot more Windows users than Mac users. So if you wanna screw everything up, you write a virus for Windows instead. It's all about the numbers ;).

SJ> >The country that is pussying out, and looks to be on course to NOT give us any help, is…..France< It's a pity there isn't a smilie for a complete lack of surprise. Hey, look on the bright side. France might be nuclear, but that just means they drop their bombs in the pacific, in somebody else's back yard. They'd _never_ drop them in the middle east. That's too close to _them_. >Next time a suspicious, evil-looking Arabic gentleman shows you his genitalia, maybe you shouldn't insult him right away, huh?< I'll try to remember that. Of course, I'm just hoping I'm never in a position where said gentleman is showing me his genitalia. *shudders* >Dave: Oh, come on! I mean, we've been coming here for 50 years and performing anal probes and all that we have learned is that 1 in10 doesn't really seem to mind.< *ROTFLMAO*

Jan> Congratulations on the job, and I'm really glad to hear you're enjoying it! Dumb criminal stories are fun!

Crzy> >I think I am finally recovering...< *hugs* enjoy your weekend off, and my best wishes to your grandmother.

Christine> >Spent the night at work feeling like my mind was coming apart at the seams< You poor thing. Give yourself a pat on the back for getting through it and for traumatising some little skid mark. >while the secondary characters had more personality< Even Merry and Pippin had more personality, although my favourite will always be Sam. Loyal little maniac. >My only gripe with the books is that there was only one interesting female character in the entire series (Eowyn of Rohan).< My biggest gripe too. And although Eowyn was cool, she spent half her air time panting after Aragorn.

Jaden> >Good news! I'm getting ready to leave Korea and head for Washington state. I hope that I like living there.< Yea!

Lynati> >Us or Them< Well said.

Lain> >the taliban, however... well.. thats a different story..< Filthy, ignorant, psychotic scum... Are my feelings on them clear enough? :) I am so incredibly glad I live in Australia and not Afghanistan. I'd rather go to hell than spend my life unable to go to school or hold a job, (or even leave my house for that matter) listen to music, take photographs of friends and even wear my hair differently (This includes ALL the hair on my body. *ick face* Did I mention the Taliban were also a bunch of perverted creeps?)

Patrick> Get better soon.

Mara> I love that song! Who's responsible for it? Where can I get it? (I _really_ love that song. ;))

Greg> >if you ever wanted to fly anywhere in the world, now's the time. The Airlines are so desperate they're slashing their prices by 20%. Some even more.< Except in Australia. One of our two major airlines went bust about the same time as the WTC/Pentagon disasters, and so the other one, and the half dozen or so littler ones, are stepping in like ravaging hyenas. Price Hike, here we come. :(

Warpmind> >As I recall it, the letters were ONLY along the inside of it.< and only when somebody tossed it into a fire. Of course, I'm too much of a raving fangirl to give a monkey's banana what they make the ring look like if the movie's good. If the ring was silver with dozens of pretty jewels, and the Nine Walkers were some sort of Priscilla re-write (Gandalf: 'Oh that's just what Middle Earth needs - a cock in a frock on a rock'), THEN I'd complain.

And with THAT mental image fresh in everybody's minds, I think I'll depart.
TTFN!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
AustraliaTuesday, September 25, 2001 09:43:38 PM
IP: proxy2.mel.pacific.net.au

Well, here we are, 2 weeks after our world changed forever. And what have we been doing? Well, we're really working hard at……freezing assets. Yea. Whoo hoo. I'm jumping with joy.

I'm sorry, but I am a product of the microwave generation. I want things done quickly. I've heard all the BS lines about how we're taking things slowly, how we want to do things right. Or "intelligently" as Gunjack might say. But hey, I've grown up on Ahnuld films. I want to see crap blowing up NOW. I want to see some bombs dropping NOW. I want to hear our troops blasting heavy metal music as they roll over Afghanistan tents with their tanks. I want to see a few hundred Islamic terrorists doing their best impression of "Vietnam Napalm Girl" as we deliver blazing hot death from the skies. But most of all, I want Osama bin Laden capture, brought to America, and given to the the NYC police department, so the good officers there can show him the proper way to sodomize a human being with a nighstick (or toilet plunger, or various other instruments). In other words, I would like to see some action right NOW. Just to placate me. Here I am, all geared up for a war, and the only people really seeing a whole lot of action are our accountants. I've got the red haze over my eyes now; I've got a bit of the blood lust. I'm not going to be feeling very satisfied until I see the first Islamic terrorist body hitting the floor.

Until then, I have to turn my venom toward Hollywood.

You know, I guess I just didn't know how bad the WTC situation was until the celebrities told me. THANK GOD. Wow, I didn't realize just how horrible of a tragedy this was until I heard Tom Cruise telling me the other day.

There was something about the telethon the other night that bothered me, and I've seen it over and over again when I see these brain-dead celebrities in Hollywood interviewed.
It's the whole "Don't blame the Islamics!" message. I don't want to hear that crap. Yes, I know, not all Muslims are bad. You don't need to hammer that into my head. God forbid I accidentally think that someone of an Islamic faith ever did anything evil. The problem is, a lot of us Americans have a damn hard time figuring out which Muslim is good, and which one wants to kill our children because Allah commands him to do so.

I did hear one hilarious thing today. It was in the Globe tabloid. According to the Globe, Osama bin Laden, Public Enemy #1, has a medical condition…..with his genitalia. He's hung like a pimple, apparently. And his hatred of America, according to the Globe, is because once upon a time an American girl saw him, and laughed at his….condition. I SO want this to be true. That's be just perfect. Then I could call him ball-less all I want, and be perfectly accurate!
But if it is true, well then, no wonder he bombed us! You women, with your insults. Look what you drove him to do! Next time a suspicious, evil-looking Arabic gentleman shows you his genitalia, maybe you shouldn't insult him right away, huh?

Josh: <> Ah, the Hitler Channel. <<Well f*CK you! Conscription is the biggest BS ever. Why should I be forced to fight just because I'm over 18 and happened to be born here?! I could have been born ANYWHERE else.>> Hey, it's just my personal opinion. I just don't like the running away thing. Some foolish part of my brain that still believes in honor or courage thinks running away is cowardly. I mean, of course *I* don't want to be drafted into the military (if I had wanted to go into it, I would have), but if I am….I won't run. I'm probably foolish, but I won't run. <<how he didn't know oral was really sex>>: Any teenager will agree with him.>> Don't forget the back door. I always thought that counted, but I guess I'm wrong. Go to www.technicalvirgin.com for some testimonials. <<a quote from one of my favorite Keith David films>>: That's from Duke Nukem.>> THAT GAME!!! That game has ripped off every good line from every movie from the last 20 years. Hell, every cool thing that Ash has ever said in the Evil Dead films has been stolen by Duke Nukem. Disgraceful. <<Its the "Josh for World Dictator" party!>> Oooh! Can I be the Minister of Hate??

Lain: <<you know, i think i will have a fit if anyone ever mentions killing the innocent people of afganistan again.>> All you had to do was ask.
Look, we're going to kill innocent people over there. You do know that. Cause that's war. I don't think there's ever been any war of any significance that has not included large civilian (i.e. innocent) casualties. And in this one, they'll probably be heavy. Because if you know anything about Osama bin Laden or his organization, the Al-Qaeda, you know that he has cells in dozens of countries, and many are supported by the populace of those countries. Another is the tactics he uses. He recruits children. He's a lot like the Vietcong in that way. He trains children to kill, and if you think that American soldiers will stand by while some Afghan teenager wastes them with an M-16, then you're mistaken. It's going to be bloody, and a lot of innocent people are going to die. The truly ironic thing about it is that we Americans will wind up looking like the bad guys for doing so, when in fact we'll be fighting a war we didn't ask for, and several thousand of our own innocents were killed with NO provocation. Our great sins, in these people's eyes, is that we don't worship Allah, we support Israel, and we dare to call ourselves the greatest nation on earth. For that apparent horrible crime against the world, they decide to wipe out a few thousand of our civilians, just for chuckles. But when we go to war, and we take out an Afghan civilian here or there, we'll probably be portrayed as the villains. You know what though? Doesn't matter to me. As long as Osama and Al-Qaeda die, to me it will be worth it.

Gunjack: <<"More problems have been solved with violence then with any other method in history." -Robert Hienlen, "Starship Troopers">> Didn't people often remark that Heinlein was a Commie? He was a Socialist, at the least. I read that book too. Pretty good, but the movie had cooler giant bugs. <<Call it "anti-american" if you want, but trading someone's life for a high-value target does demonstrate real brass.>> Okay, it's anti-American. And you know who else would stay on a plane heading into building, knowing full well that the end result would be death? A chimpanzee. Doesn't take a whole lot of brass OR brains to do what they did, especially when you consider that all of them brainwashed in the name of that oh-so-wonderful thing called religion. Which, if I may take things full circle, has caused and created more problems than any other method in history. <> I'm sure you probably know. If you don't, perhaps ask him, or someone else in here who would understand the reference. Basically, I don't like being given a Sunday school lesson about anything. <<For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge Exposed Regularly>> Now who's becoming adept at using veiled insults?

Siofra: << Okay, first of all, will you please tone down the language in your posts.>> What, are you taking lessons from Gunjack now? <<It seems that every time I try to skip over what you've written, I seem to catch some profane word or obscene phrase that really isn't necessary.>> But they are. For punctuation, if nothing else. <<I'm sure with such a creative mind you should be able to come up with more appropriate wording.>> Probably. But why bother?
Look, I'll be nice, since you at least asked me to tone it down instead of just asking your girlfriend….oops, I mean, the administrator, to say something about it. Will I stop being naughty? No. Will I not use so many direct "F***"s? Yeah, I guess I could try. Okay? That's the best I can promise you. Most of the offensive stuff will probably still be there, though, I can't promise it won't be.

Jannie: <> Getting into trouble. Where else? ;) <<Have I mentioned that we have white squirrels here??>> I've seen black squirrels here. I think they're evil, and my dog does too. But you should see the little muthas run. Terriers are mean little dogs when it comes to prey. <<Detective was sent out today to discuss a UFO sighting by an 85 year old woman.>> That reminds me of an old bit from "The Kids in the Hall":

2 Anal-probing aliens:
Kevin: So what's bothering you?
Dave: Ahhhh.... Lately I just keep wondering... what's the point?
Kevin: The point?
Dave: Yeah. What's the point of what we do?
Kevin: Sorry, I don't follow you. [Kevin sits down]
Dave: Well, I mean, we travel 250,000 light years across the universe, abduct humans, probe them anally and release them.
Kevin: Yeah... AND?
Dave: Well, doesn't it seem kind of point-LESS?
Kevin: I really don't think about it.
Dave: Well don't you think you should?
Kevin: No, I don't think I should. I don't think I should question the leadership of our Great Leader
Dave: Oh, come on! I mean, we've been coming here for 50 years and performing anal probes and all that we have learned is that 1 in10 doesn't really seem to mind.

Ravyn: *bows* I kneel to you obvious wisdom of wrestling! I wanted to go into a modern Stone Cold Steve Austin impression ("You're pathetic! WHAT? I said you're pathetic!"), but I didn't know if you watch any of the newer stuff. ;)
And about Jon Stewart's monologue, basically he just gave a very heart-felt speech about the WTC tragedy. Broke down crying too. At the end, he talked about how the view from his apartment window used to be the WTC, but now it was the Statue of Liberty, and you can't beat that. It was just very emotional and inspiring.

Green Baron: Sorry, bro, but some of my post last time was an inside wrestling joke for Ravyn. ;)

Metaldemon: <<If it makes you feel better, I'm a gay socialist with long hair and a beard. Yes, a tree-hugging, give to the poor, elderly, and under privaleged, mexican-american Soicalist.>> Did you know that, according to Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, you're the cause of the WTC catastrophe? You have some explaining to do, hippie.
But you're cool with me, as long as you don't start discussing your love of the group Phish. I shall hear none of it!

Robby: I use Pazsaz all the time. I wish they would be a little more accurate, though. But still, it's a great tool for the anal-retentive cartoon fan like myself, who has to have everything in chronological order.

Aaron: <<Finally saw Unbreakable last night. Good flick.>> I agree, but didn't it move so very, very slow?
So, who wants to be my Mr. Glass?

Warpmind: I believe the writing on the Ring is only visible at certain times, by certain people. But here I am nitpicking, and I won't do that!

Lynati: <> Well, I do try.

Garg Mistress: Well, it's nice to know that even in here I am not free from spam.

***ANGEL SPOILERS***

Ah, the season premiere of Angel! Quite possibly the last season of Angel. I'm just naturally pessimistic, but you can't look at the show's new time and placement and think it's all that great. First off, it's on Monday nights, against a little something called Monday Night Football. That's strike one. It also doesn't have a good lead in. 7th Heaven? That goes over well with the old folks and the family viewers, but do you think either of them is going to stay around long enough to watch an adult-oriented vampire show? Not likely. That's the same problem Roswell ran into the last 2 years. Without Buffy as it's lead-in, the ratings of the show are bound to suffer, at least a little. I almost hope the show does get cancelled, so that Joss can bully UPN to buy it, and return the Buffy-Angel Two-for-Tuesday-Rock-Block (and believe me, Joss will have that sway. UPN will be the network built upon Buffy and Star Trek).

The first thing I noticed about the show was that someone decided to letterbox it. Freaky. Angel's all cinematic. So, we learn that it's 3 months after Buffy's death, and Angel went away to a monastery to find peace or something. Then we see it's just an excuse to insert a CTHD inspired fight scene. Ang Lee-rific!

Angel's interaction with Fred was good. She, of course, is the mental case wide-eyed innocent, and Angel, being the hero and all, feels he has to protect her. And she's got the steaming undies for him, obviously. That's one big "future love interest" stick they're beating us with.

I'm glad to see that the flashback sequences are back. This is something that should continue throughout the series. Angel has lived a long and storied existence, and we sometimes need to see his past in order to gain perspective. David does have the world's crappiest Irish accent though.

Holtz is probably the most interesting villain to ever factor in to the show. He's a villain only in that he's out to kill the hero; his motivations are good, and in many ways, he's every bit the hero that a Slayer would be. He just has an intense desire to kill Angel, but not an unjustified one. I have to figure that he'll be the "obsessed" villain, totally consumed by his lust to kill Angel, and thus he'll engage in some unheroic activities.

The demon doctor providing "cures", of a sort, for vampirism, was a pretty fresh concept as well. I'm hoping to see more of him in the future, as I think he could prove to be an interesting villain.

Darla being pregnant…..well, truth be told, first thing that hit me when I saw that belly was "Gee, that's a rather cheesy looking prosthetic", then I thought, well, she's probably not pregnant, she's probably just a mule. And is that so unrealistic? She was in Nicaragua of all places, people. It's perfectly conceivable that instead of some ungodly urchin she's carrying around, she just swallowed a few dozen balloons full of coke and/or black tar heroin. Don't forget kids: Drugs are bad, mmm-ohkay? And now you know. And knowing is half the battle, G.I. f'ing Joe.
If she is gravid, my money's on some weird magic mojo jojo. Her contact in the bar did mention setting up an appointment with a shaman.
What's this about the plot of the episode? Oh yeah, Angel kills Juliet vampire, Romeo comes after him, they fight, bad guy dies. Still, a pretty good episode of Angel. A good premiere for the season (MUCH better than last year's) that leaves us with lots to think about.
***END SPOILERS***

Of course, during the premiere of Angel, they had the commercial for the new Lord of the Rings movie. I was a little unprepared for that. I was flipping through the channels at that point, watching my Redskins do their best to prove that an NFL team *can* go 0-16 while actually trying, and also tuning into WWF RAW to marvel at just how big Stephanie McMahon's breasts have grown (I want to shake her surgeon's hand!), and then I caught the trailer and I LOST MY DAMN FOOL MIND.
My….God. And that's about it. That's what it was. That trailer for me was a friggin' religious experience. That trailer was better than almost every movie I've seen this summer….just the trailer! I mean, you get to see the Hobbits…..and Legolas, and Gimlie, and Aragorn, and the RingWraiths, and Ian McKellen is perfect as Gandalf, and you see the Orcs, and the Cave Troll, and by God, even a portion of the Balrog is shown!!! I'm drooling here. It's all of my geek dreams come true. I don't know how I'd feel if I had ever played Dungeons and Dragons before, but I got to feel those people are probably just releasing in their pants at the thought of this film. December 19th, I will do everything to put my ass in that theater seat. Everything about this film looks fantastic….I can't see how anyone wants to nitpick this movie. Some people just want to by cynical about everything. This isn't Star Wars, okay? I don't have that overwhelming "Oh, they're going to screw this up" feeling. Peter Jackson looks to have done the unthinkable here. I just pray the movie makes oodles of money, but I don't think that'll be a huge problem, because if legions of fanboys will go see that piece of crap that Lucas put out a few years back, I got to figure this film will make some decent change.

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 09:05:34 PM
IP: 66-44-54-95.s95.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Um...did I miss something because I think there might be something wrong with the CR. What happened to all the recent posts?

Later
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 08:30:23 PM
IP: 211.216.216.46

Imzy : <> I'm SOOOO Glad i'm not you. ::hits knees and thanks her God::

I think that sums up my feelings about that.

::pulls out blunt objects and random pointies:: ok.. now the girls down the hall deal with me.... no.. wait.... i'll just hope they get removed from campus after i get them hauled into "Honor Court" for being rude and obnoxious, and breaking the honor code here by being loud during quiet hours.... dangit... i WANT to study for a change and i can't cause of the distractions. GR

::wanders off to beat her head on a wall someplace::

Aingeal
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 07:23:56 PM
IP: 207.42.162.197

Jan< 85 year old woman reporting UFOs? Hmm, reminds me of a certain Christine Morgan fic, "Flashie Thing" :) Go read it if you get the chance. It's a scream.
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 06:45:28 PM
IP: pc169-2.drew.edu

Entity< Whoa! Where'd you hear this?? That's actually pretty damn cool...

GSide< I dunno, I'm pretty excited about the Harry Potter movie, myself. Although I admit that when I first heard Christ Columbus, the director who brought us Home Alone and BiCentennial Man, was directing it, I flipped. But it now sounds like he won't screw it up. *sharpens her pickaxe* At least, he'd better not ...

But I'm still pretty excited about the Rings :) I first read The Hobbit when I was in 5th grade *swoons* Sweet! Too bad they're not making a Hobbit movie, just the last three books. The first one was my fave.

*back to writing her two page long French essay ... quelle chierie, l'école!*
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 06:43:47 PM
IP: pc169-2.drew.edu

*whimpers* well, I no longer receive the networks that carry Buffy or Angel. I’ll be relying on the spoilers here to keep me updated until I can get a satellite installed. Bugtussle Cable Vision.

*begins humming the theme song to Looney Tunes* Today the looneys were out again and in our lobby or being pursued by an officer. A little background here first… we have 2 families in the area that everyone knows. They are the ultimate stereotypical hillbillies… but much nastier. This one particular family, the Foster’s, live in the back woods in a shack, they have no running water and no electricity. Seriously! They also do not bath unless it rains (gathers rain water in a barrel). It’s obvious that it hasn’t rained in a quite some time in their part of the woods… the dad is so filthy that his skin is black and his pink lips stick out like a sore thumb. Once when my dad and brother went to their house, my brother saw something sticking out of the side of the house and soon realized that it was one of the boys’ yangs… he was pissing out of a knothole on the side of the house!
Anyway, the family came in today to say that a 15 year old boy had threatened to rape his 17 year old daughter on the school bus. (after questioning the girl, it was discovered she was lying) Anyway, this girl is as nasty as her parents and she’d have to remove her panties with a putty knife. These people are not so poor that they can’t afford electricity or a water well, they choose to live this way. Dad thinks he’s an authority of the law and will argue with a sign post. I found out that the Prosecuting Attorney’s office threw them out earlier in the day and recommended that they contact a private attorney… so they came to see us at the sheriff’s office instead. Our lucky day, huh?

Detective was sent out today to discuss a UFO sighting by an 85 year old woman.

The sheriff received a call from the school last week about a possible stalker of one of the high school students. The bus would arrive early in the morning (around 7:10am) to pick up this gal. The driver noticed a man peeking out from behind some trees in a nearby wooded area and then would run off when the bus went by. This girl was very pretty and is left at home alone when she gets on the bus. The sheriff has been trying to catch this guy by following the bus in an unmarked car, but he’s been a no-show for the past few days. Today, the sheriff was eating at the local café when in conversation a man mentioned the “hitchhiker” that he had picked up a few days ago from that particular area… he didn’t know about the stalker. He picked this guy up and took him home… sheriff got the address of this guy and made a visit to his house today. He claims to be an ex-boyfriend and was bringing the girl some flowers in a vase but a dog and a wolf chased him and he lost the flowers and vase. Ummm yeah riiiight.
Ok, so if you are a stalker, do NOT hitchhike from the area and go directly to your home.

I discovered the female cell today. Singular… one cell. It’s about 5x10 and has a solid door with a small opening slit in the front. Remind me to never be put in jail.
The prisoners went apeshit over my perfume today…. *shrugs* any scent above sweat socks would smell good back in the jail area. I chatted with a couple of the guys for a few minutes. Of course, they are innocent…. The guy they were with did the crime… they were the innocent bystander that was arrested instead. *rolls eyes* I dug deep into my wisdom barrel and gave them the best advice I could think of… “if you play with garbage, you’re going to stink”. *L*

The sheriff still refuses to allow me to carry a gun. ;) *L*

Warpmind> *LOL* ok! If he shows up, I’ll get you an autograph! I do believe that he could get some new and funny material from some of the people who have come thru this jail!

Spacebabie> *chuckles and blushes* yes, I’m petrified of birds. They are evil spawns of satan.

Hyperion> I heard on the news tonight that they really doubt that smallpox will be a chosen virus. It’s too difficult to get. Also, they are saying that they don’t think it will be a nationwide biological attack, but something more local.

Josh> I said that risks are extremely elevated if you are drafted, but not everyone who is drafted is killed.
<<as long as someone else does it>>: Exactly>> that’s really sad. What if everyone had that same attitude? We’d be living under a communistic government now.
Anna has the condition. She came home and said, “I have PUPS!” I replied, “I guess this really does mean you’re a bitch, huh?” *L* yeah, I crack myself up sometimes. ;)
<< Parents are idiots, they deserve it>> while most times I would agree with you – when it’s against the principal, I will support the parents. Anyone who stands up and refuses to take the crap that this lady dishes out has my full support.
winch, wench.. it was a typo. I know the difference in the two spellings. I still haven't figured out why of all the typos made in here, Aaron chose to pick mine out and correct me. *shrugs* wait! does this make me the admin's pet? ;)

Patrick> I hope that you are feeling better! The weather has changed to the cooler and I’m expecting to wake up with a full-blown allergy attack any day now. O.o

DPH> yeah, if your records are older than 1 year, they will need new ones taken. Same with most medical records/tests and sometimes less than a year.
Ummm… on 9-11-01? Well, a bridge collapsed in Corpus Christi killing some people. It was across a causeway, I believe. People have to travel via a fairy (is that the proper spelling for this?) to get back and forth from the island to the mainland. I don’t recall what else happened on this day – other than the terrorist attacks, of course.
You have a kitty too? We just inherited 2 semi-kittens from my dad. Right now we are keeping them in the garage until they become used to us and learn that this is now their home. I can’t spell the names that the kids have given them… I’m not going to call them those names – can’t pronounce them easily either.

I’m pissed off at the local Coke distributing plant. For some reason, they have some kind of agreement with Dr. Pepper to take over their distributions and part of the agreement was to no longer offer Mr. Pibb. I’m pissed. I drink Mr. Pibb all day long – nothing else… and now I can’t even buy it here?? Scum suckers. I will have to either drive to Joplin (65 miles away) or I’m going to check to see if it’s still being sold in Rogers, Arkansas. Either way, I will have to make a “stock-up” run a couple of times a week to keep my Pibb supply. Dr. Pepper is ok, but I prefer Pibb, damnit.

I went thru my final interview today and have now been accepted into the Eastern Star organization. (female counterpart to the Masons) hehe Initiation will be in November.

Have I mentioned that we have white squirrels here?? =) I watched one play in my backyard this morning! I have always heard of there being white squirrels in this area, but I hadn’t seen them. Of course, my mom thinks I’ve lost my crackers because she has never seen one.

Military in the family: 4 uncles and 3 cousins. One cousin retired from the Air Force last year as a Colonel. He has not been called back yet. All were in the Air Force and all 4 uncles retired after lengthy careers.
Denis’s brother is in the Air Force in Belgium. They have been put on full alert.

I wonder where that foul mouthed SJ has been? Maybe he's out searching for Osama-mama bin laden? *chuckles*

My Chihuahua, Juanita is needing some attention so I need to go cuddle with her for a while.
Jan
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 06:17:20 PM
IP: modem18-109.mo-net.com

Hmm. I started and finished mowing 90% of my yard that could be mowed by riding lawnmower. What's left could probably be done in an hour. No, I can't and won't use the pushmower because of back problems.

It's sad. 3 more days left of something's existance. Oh well, there's a debate between my logical side and emotional side about the termination.

Lyanti - no, you should try to get her addicted to visiting groups within yahoo and ezboard.

Biological weapons - Hmm. how long would it take to mass-produce vaccines for 50,000 people? If it's a month, we're screwed.

Green Baron - After reading the article and remembering that liberals say conservatives are intolerant, I have to wonder what adjective to describe some liberals: prejudiced [nah, not strong enough], discriminatory [hmm, still not strong enough], hypocrites (yea, I like this one].

Imzadi - how can they refuse to give up if they completed surrounded and out of ammo?

1-3=-2

Robby, great link.

If they are ultralights (or ultralites], why aren't there ultradarks [or ultraheavies]?

I know, I'll just fly an ultraheavy into the CR.

**disappears, on the search for an ultraheavy**

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 06:01:20 PM
IP: max1-17.cwy.cei.net

Angel Spoilers ********

I dunno, I got the implication that ANGEL is the daddy. Why else was the "previously on Angel" scene him and Darla shagging? As for Vampires not having babies, this is probably something new, as Darla is was "not once, but two times slain" and Angel has a soul, two very unique conditions for vampires.

What would be absolutely wicked, is if those two vamps produce an actual normal human child.

I just hope they don't go all Xena on us and give us another child of Armageddon.

Anyway, my money is on Angel as the daddy. Otherwise it really wouldn't be important the ongoing Angel plot line, and it looks like this is supposed to be a major one.

Re:last moments of Buffy premiere last year was Dawn showing up in the last moment.

Angel's been gone for 3 months, and there was a lot of time after Angel and Darla did it before the end of the series, so the timing is just right too. Hmmm... wonder what she wanted with the Shaman. Loved the bit with the wedge of lime *^_^*

****end*****

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 06:00:59 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Greetings and salutations people,

I caught the season opener for Angel so I thought I'd way in.

* * * Angel Spoiler Beware! * * *

The main plot reminded me of Highlander. I wasn't looking for flaws, but the blast from the never before mentioned dark past brought back a Duncan McCleod vibe. The best part was the confrontation on the subway car. That was well placed blow on Angel's psyche.

On the plus side, all the characters were played to perfection. Even Freddie is fitting in nicely as part of the Clue Club. (Oh to be Dennis the friendly ghost. And finally get an eyeful of that tatto Cordelia has on her backside.) I do wonder how the other members of the Club have dealt with Buffy's demise. I understand it's about Angel here, I'm also curious how Cordy and Wes are dealing, Buffy wasn't exactly a stranger to them.

A prego Darla is a big surprise. I'm guessing Darla fell in with one of those demons that tried knocking up Cordelia. If Darla got knocked up when she was human, the child would have died when she did. I don't believe vampires can get pregnant. All part and parcel of that undead condition. But I could be wrong. I'm more interested in Wolfram & Hart. How were they connected with Pylea? And what affect did Angel's group have on them.

* * * LOTR Trailer * * *
I'm plodding through the Rings in anticipation of the movie. I agree with Christine about Frodo and Aragorn. I'm in the middle of Two Towers. The thing that puts me off is that there is so much history implied, but only a fraction of it is relevant for the story. I'm not worried about what's dropped or change. In Fellowship a third of the book was taken up with description and histories that can be sowed up in dialouge. Its all cool.

Well, I've got a split people. Stay frosty.

Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 03:57:21 PM
IP: cbl123.pool007.ch001-west-covina.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net

We've started setting the CPU after itself in Smash Bros. In a 99 life game, we discovered that Jigs is just no good.

Imzadi> <<Because "Everyone uses it, therefore it must be the best.">>: I say it's more everyone else uses it, therefore we should have fewer compatability problems.
<<Now, if you were born without a penis>>: Where are all those equal rights advocates on this issue?
<<Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead>>: Admiral Farragut. There's a school named after him not too far from my home town.
<<I've heard it>>: Right, but would you increase your roomies' enjoyment by using it?
<<that actually wasn't meant to be an insult>>: Sure...
<<Impressive, isn't it?>>: I thought so.

Christine> <<when we were all trying to see what MacBeth had under his tunic besides those remarkable legs>>: Ring ding diddlediddle ei de o, ring di diddle ei ay, I wonder if it's true what they don't wear beneath their kilt.

Carolynn> <<They are officially counting down to the November 16th release of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone">>: Set them straight for the Ring.

Ravyn> <<I'll gladly take writing a paper about true love over a Physics exam any day>>: Are you sure you're an engineer?

Courtney> <<I'm probly not>>: Then how could you speak someone else's mind?

Carolynn> <<the worst thing about college is the girl living above you who has to have her boyfriend over at all hours of the day and night>>: Walls here are pretty thick. But at least you're not on Douglass, where she'd have her girlfriend over. Mmmm....

Patrick> <<he cold medicine has helped inspire some new fanfic ideas>>: The bset kind of ideas, I'm sure.

Aaron> <<the mug falls open side up...>>: And does 1502 damage to Dvl. Gnats.

Metal Demon> You need to add the http:// or the CR thinks you're referring to a subdirectory of itself.

Lain> <<lets just say that douglas adams was right>>: That whole how to leave the Earth preface thing, right?

Warpmind> <<there's only one little nitpick I have with the movie>>: I've got a big one: no Tom.

And perhaps in an attempt to get Gunjack regularly posting again, the mp3 is quite intoxicated this time. The Old Black Rum by Great Big Sea. Oddly enough, there is a George Street in New Brunswick.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 03:37:37 PM
IP: nat01-mccr-ext.rutgers.edu

Well I got back to school Sunday night and yes, it felt like I never left. It was still a good birthday and the first time I've had a cake in two years so that was fun. It was decorated with little plastic beer bottles thanks to my brother, but I was too busy to drink. My roommie has promised a bottle of Long Island Ice Tea to celebrate as soon as he gets the money. Thanks for all the well wishes.

Josh- I knew you hated windows as much as Ryan, my character does.

My roommie is playing Grand Turismo 3 ;)
sweet!!!

Lynati- thanks for the E

Well back to painting.

"Look Sulu, the sun has come out, it's a miracle."
-Checkov, ST V-

Later
Revel - [Samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 03:19:20 PM
IP: dynamic-129-120-236-181.dynamic.unt.edu

*In again*

My sister has just got a computer and is now online...she sent me an email, her first email to anyone...and yes, it DID make me feel special.
My first order of business shall be to addict her to webcomics ]=).

Aaron, guess who was back in my head just now? I'll give you a hint: my response to my sister looks like a MiST, and I'm not the only one speaking...

*Poofs out*
Lynati Kshudra
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 03:12:12 PM
IP: 207.221.70.133

Entity- Greg and the rest of the fantasy writers probably don't know about it since grimorum arcanorum means magic book (or something like that) in latin.
Galvatron
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 02:51:40 PM
IP: 01-063.037.popsite.net

Okay. This is just so cool. Was anyone else aware that the Grimorum Arcanorum is REAL? As in, it is supposed to actually exist, according to lore, in the vaults of the Vatican or somesuch, and is reportedly a book of dark evil?

Apparently it's been referenced in other works besides Gargoyles, like fantasy novels. I flipped out. I'm also surprised Weisman and crew had the gall to make reference to it, considering the potential controversy... but I guess it's too obscure to have worried about that.

So cool.
Entity
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 01:40:18 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

*stumbles into room* Oooh, headache. After this I'm popping some advil and curling up in bed. Sucks having a cold and still having to go to a zillion and one activities and classes...

<<GB > "I prefer Harry Pothead myself" - So you've read "Harry Pothead and the Pyschodelic Schoolbus" too, huh? :P >>
OMG, *LOL*!!

CRZY and JOSH< Yeah, dick flick :) Or maybe "testosterone fest" ... or "macho movie" or something. There's "chick flick" so we gotta have a male version. Though I'm wondering why Josh automatically thinks of porn when that's brought up *wink*

CHRISTINE< Fight Club is a lot like Quills: male protagonist feeling locked into how society deems you're supposed to be. In this case, though, it takes place in the late 20th century/early millenium, featuring a young guy who has a successful job but doesn't know what the hell he wants out of life. Then he meets a totally suave, kick ass antithesis of himself, and the duo decide the best way to channel their anger is ... a Fight Club :) Everything goes straight to hell from there, but you can't help but enjoy the ride!!

CRZY< Belated birthday!! I'll leave GB and the others to the spankings ...

PATRICK< Amen, brother. Feel better *chugs some calcium-fortified OJ*

*stumbles off to bed*
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:58:31 AM
IP: pc169-211.drew.edu

*Warpmind enters, brandishing what appears to be a firearm that could be devised most likely only by the collective twisted geniuses of Riff, Wilek Nereus and Nikola Tesla.*
Things in RL have kept me from posting lately, so I did a little reality-tweaking, to compensate. Meet Squiffy. *Points the gun at DC, who instantaneously converts into random quantum particles and disappears to innumerable different locations in spacetime.*

Anyway, on to replies, and catching up...

Robby: Repeating the same two or three lines? BTDT. I even know a song that runs like that, made to induce nervous breakdowns. ;)

GB: Actually, berserkers only fight one at a time, but they alternate quickly. ;)

Jan: You know, where you work now... if you ever get to speak with Daniel Butler, could you get me his autograph? }:)

LOTR: From what I've seen, there's only one little nitpick I have with the movie... the Ring itself. From what I've seen, the writing is visible on the outside. As I recall it, the letters were ONLY along the inside of it.

Entity: Tolkien wrote his books around the languages, not vice versa. Characterization did suffer from that, while the main plot may have benefitted somewhat.

Well, that's all I got to say right now. *Checks the power cell on Squiffy again, then wanders out and back to his CRPG.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:18:44 AM
IP: mp-216-43-21.daxnet.no

Lord of the Rings> It does look good, although I have to admit to having never read the books. I read The Hobbit back in 6th grade, and I got half-way into Fellowship, but that's where I've been hanging for awhile now. Frankly, the movies look so good and the word from the hardcore fans has been so positive that I figure I'll just watch the flicks and consider myself Tolkienized.

The Elves> What is inaccurate or disappointig about the Elves, out of curiosity? Personally I would've wished they were more unique-looking than just human with pointy ears and flowy hair. Is that it?

Female Characters> Christine, what does the time in which Lord of the Rings came out have have anything to do with lack of good feminist characters? I mean, as far back as Greek literature you've got characters like Medea. Tolkien wrote in - what - the 50's? What excuse is that? Fantasy/sci-fi was already a "bastard" literature form in the eyes of the masses at that time.

More likely, assuming Tolkien wasn't a male supremecist or someone who simply couldn't write women, the reason there were a lack of interesting female characters in his books was probably because he was writing for young males, no?
Entity
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 09:54:28 AM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

He did it again. Wish I could say I was surprised, but I was expecting it. Just not so MUCH of it. Argh. Meaning, of course, that "Black House," the 'sequel' to "The Talisman," is basically one big Dark Tower tie-in that happens to star Jack Sawyer and peripherally involve the Territories. Oddly written, too. Entire novel in the present tense, and very strange POV useage. The characters didn't seem as vibrant as usual, either. Not a bad read, but I was hoping for better.

Crzy > flashed by Alan? Woo! Thanksgiving at your house this year! LOL, speaking of which, I got e-mail from the Loscon people. Wish I could afford the trip.

Carolyn Marie > I haven't seen either Fight Club or Saving Private Ryan (though we do own the latter on video; it's just a matter of finding a chance when Tim and I have 3 waking hours to spare). Quills was intense, and I've been thinking about it hauntingly ever since.

Josh > If you mean what I think you mean by CTHD, haven't seen it, have no desire to see it. So I can't make the comparison, sorry!

Patrick > hope you're feeling better soon!

Green Baron > Edmund Blackadder captaining a starship? I'll go you one better -- look for A Blackadder Christmas Carol, the special in which Ebenezer Blackadder is given visions of his rotten ancestors as well as a peek at his future ; )

Jannie > my thoughts exactly -- five years of school, eleven grand in student loans, and for this?

Lord of the Rings > I'm greatly looking forward to this one. Except for the elves, so far it all _looks_ right to me. I'm curious to see how they handle it, what they leave in and what they omit, and how true they stay to the characters. I re-read the trilogy plus The Hobbit recently in preparation. What always struck me most about the books was how the 'hero' (Aragorn) and the 'protagonist' (Frodo) were so totally uninteresting, while the secondary characters had more personality. I'm thinking of Gimli and Legolas in particular, especially Gimli's crush on Galadriel and the battle in which they have an orc-killing contest. My only gripe with the books is that there was only one interesting female character in the entire series (Eowyn of Rohan). But given the era in which it was written, I understand why it was that way.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 08:35:16 AM
IP: 16-189.075.popsite.net

moochie>> have i mentioned that your mother is CRAZY?! i was talking to her on the phone a few days ago about that whole "canada being left out" of bushs speech thing, just kinda in passing amongst all the other stuff we talked about (you know how your mother and i have secret conversations about you... ).. AND SHE FAXED THE WHITE HOUSE about it... YOUR MOTHER IS A NUT!!!!!!.. and i love her!! : D : D : D : D
..*exits mumbling "faxed the WHITE HOUSE!?" under breath and shaking head.. "i phoned the white house, once.. i should tell you that story sometime.. lets just say that douglas adams was right"..*

and so to class,
lain
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 08:22:44 AM
IP: nova.lib.uwo.ca

Imzadi> Updated my renders page with the new images I did over the past few days. Link at the end of the post, as usual and here:
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/flybynightindustries/Renders/Renders.html

Biological warfare> I was doing some research last night and came up with this likke gem: smallpox. I won't go into details here, but it's fast-spreading, deadly and there is no cure...the perfect biologial weapon...
Hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 08:18:06 AM
IP: 151.197.31.1

NOOOOO!!!!! there was a NEW BUFFY?!?!?!! AND ANGEL?!?!?! AND I MISSED THEM?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe.. maybe the "new PL" has them tonight.. *hope hope hope* i dont get this "fx" channel..

josh>> the CRAP party? tee hee... poor moochie would have voted for the CRAP party, too (what a sucker..)

tim>> you bet. took him danged long enough..

green baron>> whaza "libertarian?" maybe we dont have those..

moochie>> what was that prediction you gave about bushs reaction after lunch with cretien? you were riiiiiight.. ; )
but anyway.. you know what else i learned?? WE have a secret phone-tapping agency up HERE, too... so maybe all those clickity things on the line were really putting our conversation in the CANADIAN vault.. yikes, what a scary thought. and i thought i could only be a conspiracy theorist if i lived south of the border. i wonder what our privacy laws are like up here..

there is a poster at the "imaginus" poster sale called "son of a bush." this brilliant creation has a photo of george w, and a pile of quotes surrounding his image, all of them examples of his massacre of the english language. its rather funny.. i was contemplating getting the "ghost in the shell" major kusenagi lady for moochie, but unfortunately, he lives in a conservative christian dorm and i doubt they would approve of half-naked anime babes with "made in japan" stamped in red across their chests.. sorry about that, texan lover ; )
and i went to the clinic, and said "GIVE ME AN APPOINTMENT" so i get to go at 3pm today so they can give me something to make me sleep.. gah, do i ever need it.

MY FIRST KENDO CLASS IS TONIGHT!!!! (i will have to get my roommie to tape buffy if its on..)

and now i must go to class.
love,
lain - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White "Brotherly" North.. : P
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 08:08:44 AM
IP: nova.lib.uwo.ca

::reads GB's article::

Well, I thought Berkeley sucked before, and it seems that the rest of the world shares my opinion. And they don't even go here!

Everyone in this city needs to go get laid. Maybe that will shut some people up.
Josh
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 07:19:52 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-191.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

<<But not take up arms when there is a clear and present danger to our county.>>

Yes Dutchess County has always been a danger to Westchester County. Something must really be done about them. I look forward to this little war.

DEATH TO DUTCHESS COUNTY!!!!!!!!!
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 07:09:21 AM
IP: 167.206.248.14

*enters from studio-mopping fun*

No, Aaron. For once, a Polish thing WASN'T a joke.
And do you know enough about the actual history to truly get how disturbing the end is supposed to be?
Incidently, next scene, that memory/persona "wakes up" in...ahem...it's current host. And you thought I;d been F#@%ing around with him before.

*sits*
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 05:51:40 AM
IP: 207.94.232.81

Hey, Imzadi and all others. Here's an article on Berkely that you should all find interesting.

And I thought Loyola was bad :)
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 03:10:49 AM
IP: bfce.hanau.army.mil

* ANGEL SPOILERS *

I also thought that this was a good season opener. I was pleasantly surprised to see the aftereffects on Angel of Buffy's death in there; I had heard that they wouldn't be mentioning or referring to Buffy any more in "Angel" this season because of "Buffy"'s move to UPN. However, they clearly decided to make an exception here, and I was glad that they did. It did strike me as absolutely necessary to bring Angel's grieving for Buffy in somewhere, and it would have been cheating to have not shown it.

The conflict between Angel and James reminded me of Greg Weisman's remark that the best way to do a great antagonist is to give him a twisted similarity to the protagonist. James definitely followed this concept, in making his grief for Elizabeth's death a parallel to Angel's grief for Buffy's. (My favorite part came at the end where Angel was wondering whether his being able to continue after Buffy's death was a betrayal of her, and Cordelia, in probably one of her best scenes ever, told him that by continuing to fight evil and protect the innocent after her death, he wasn't betraying her memory, but honoring it. It really shows just how much she's grown since she first showed up in "Buffy").

I liked the flashback scene in 18th century Marseilles with Holzt (and hope that he indeed shows up in this season). One minor nit, though, that I couldn't help wondering about; the vampires mentioned preying upon a troubadour in Madrid - I had always assumed that troubadours went out with the Middle Ages and that there were none left by the 1760's.

And the end, with Darla pregnant (I certainly never thought, either, that vampires could get pregnant) was a real shocker.

I also caught the "Fellowship of the Ring" promo. It looks like a good one, and I hope to see it when it comes out. (Although I know also that many Tolkien fans are feeling apprehensive about this one; I just got the latest copy of a Tolkien newsletter that I subscribe to yesterday, and it contained one long article by a Tolkien fan who was not too thrilled with the notion of the movie).

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, September 25, 2001 03:09:42 AM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup252.dialsprint.net

::flops on the couch::

I actually WENT to all my classes today. That hurt. On the plus side, I think I did decently on my math quiz.

I'm lucky this week that I don't have a stat problem set, but I do have a lab to do. That'll probably bite it. I'll live...I hope.

And then next week its...MIDTERMS! JOY!

Kickass thunderstorm going on tonight while I did my homework. I got a LOT of work done tonight. Finished one problem set and almost finished two others. They'll be done by tomorrow night.

I've decided to skip my first class tomorrow and take a ride into the city to go to SEYBOLD! Joy! Its a big Apple Expo in San Fran.

Missed buffy...curses.

Forget red, this room has too much frikkin' green. Hippies.

Patrick: <>: It does blow, especially when you're otherwise a very healthy person. <<the cold medicine has helped inspire some new fanfic ideas>>: Usually cold medicine just inspires me to sleep (ah, Nyquil). But I'm sure Mme Destine will spit out some interesting stuff. <<I'm starting to wonder if maybe we aren't the same person>>: No, because then by associative property you and I would be the same person, which isn't possible since I saw you at G2k1. <>: LOL. <<Little do you know that ALL of corporate America looks like the world of Dilbert>>: What if I'm a manager... <<while there was still a chance to save my sanity>>: Obviously you waited past that point. <<started to seem more and more like work rather than recreation after a while>>: I can see that, what with people bitching all the time. <>: It only hurts the first time. <<not only am I am glad I have still not discovered the answer to "what do Scotsmen wear under their kilts," I am in no hurry to find out. All those nekid heinies in "Braveheart" were bad enough>>: I'm sure he's got a surprise for you at G2k2, then.

Siofra: <<he and his dad will be taking an extended hunting trip into Canada>>: They have room for a hitchhiker? <<His payback is his contribution to the world of computers>>: That may be the place where he can do the most good, but that doesn't mean there's no similar role in the military (non-combatant role) for him. The truth is that there IS a way I could be drafted and not actually hold a gun (sure, take all the fun out why dontcha?) but there's no chance in hell I'm gonna do it. <<Me too! Me too>>: Yes, you too. <<will you please tone down the language in your posts>>: If you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire. <>: You may not think so, but sometimes profanity is very useful for conveying emotion, which is critical in a room like this. <<Just because we hug trees it does not mean that we don't know how the world works and what needs to be done when the time comes>>: I think it does, by definition. <>: You'll have to ask.

Jan: <<being drafted isn't an automatic death sentence>>: How much money are you willing to place on that statement? <<as long as someone else does it>>: Exactly. <<She has a rare condition called PUPS - which is an unknown rash over her upper body area>>: The baby or Anna? <<she has insulted some parents so much that several of them now refuse to meet with her without a witness present>>: Parents are idiots, they deserve it. <>: Woman.

Mooncat: <<Looking forward to seeing your cold medicine inspired fics>> ::shudder:: <<Do repeated posts of the same message count as SPAM>>: I would.

Aingeal: <<I'm watching this CR for news as to the state of our country and war etc. so noone post me anny lies now y'hear>>: I wouldn't trust ANY "news" from this CR.

Garg Mistress: You can stop advertising in here, really.

Tim: <<draft dodgers>>: I too come from a fine line of draft dodgers. My dad snuck away with the college deferment, my grandfather was medically unfit, my other grandfather got away with being the guy who gives you your new uniform, and I'm underweight. <<as if there was such a huge deficit of computer programmers and technicians>>: So true. <<there is so many of them running around it's getting to be a pain in the ass>>: I live with 3 programmers. It *IS* a pain in the ass. <<alot of them have become so self absorbed with their technical skills>>: True, and though I am not a programmer, I am often guilty of this. <<they often ridicule the electronically un-inclined and often ramble for long periods of time about technical nuances that no one who leaves his house for more than 30 minutes per day than they need to know or gives a shit about>>: Hey, that's where the fun in being knowledgeable comes from! <<Some have even become so militantly preocuppied with a particular brand of hardware or software they put down anyone who uses a different brand>>: Really!? I can't imagine... <<But not take up arms when there is a clear and present danger to our county. At least these young South Americans are actually *working*>>: And that's why we hate them. <>: Plenty of both, I'm sure. <<Happy, Lain?>>: Probably not.

Green Baron: <<no one will name their cute cuddly kitten after President Bush>>: I'm sure someone has a pet named "george". <<Besides, your state re-elected Barbara Boxer>>: Not my fault! I voted Republican. <<Louisiana would never elect a prune like Maxine Waters, even in New Orleans>>: Not my fault! I voted Republican. <>: Riiiiight. <<Jericho>>: Yes I know. It was a G2k1 reference. <<an honorary citizen of anywhere in the Appalachian Mountains because of his relatiosn with Demona>>; LOL! <<and America can work with them>>: And often does! <>: Whoa. And now you write smut. <<The CIA really has to be careful with that sort of thing>>: Don't worry, they won't be. <<Canada's elite forces are better than America's>>: Canada has forces? <<there's a time to put aside differences>>: Lets just put aside liberals. <<we'll be smart and not put guys like you in the grunt lines>>: Um...Vietnam? <>: Ah, well then we're totally f*cked. <<mainly the bottom 10% of the income ladder>>: Nah, we need them. How about the bottom 10% of the INTELLIGENCE ladder. <<some Republicans showed up at Matthew Sheppard's funeral and got mocked by the liberals for paying their respects>>: Wow, those Democrats are SO much more open-minded than Republicans, huh?

Crzy: <>: If you had Rouge cleavage then you would have trouble doing two things: standing up and walking through doors. <<that boyant, smiling at the sun sort of perky cleavage>>: That doesn't exist outside of Beverly Hills. <<BOW TO ME MORTAL!>>: I've said that before... <<he was going to do it as a TRUE Scotsman>>: LOL. <<We are all getting so OLD>>: HEY! Speak for yourself!

Hyperion: <<the new "art" will be up, probably by the end of the day today>>: Hmmm...that sounds familiar...what art?

Sorow: <<Thank the dragon, the CR is still standing>>: Try not to act so surprised.

A square: <>: You must have us confused with another CR. <<We were under the impression both had already occurred>>: Yeah, yeah. <<Happy Belated Birthday you dancin' casanova, you!!>>: LOL! <>: Or the cold shower possibilities...

Aaron: <<A wench is a woman of dubious character. A winch is something on the front of a wrecker used to haul pickups out of ditches>>: I thought it was so hard to confuse the two that it HAD to be a typo. <<don't be dissin' the Blue Man group>>: Don't get me started. <<you were kind enough to tell us how many spankings to give you too>>: You spank her...she'll kick my butt if I do it. <<if Osama's a multi-millionaire, does that mean we can start filing wrongful death lawsuits against him>>: No, because our stupid litigation laws don't hold in other countries. <<F**k your digital camera!>>: That would hurt.

The Wizard: <<Did you get my latest email>>: That depends on when it was sent. I haven't received anything from you in the last few days (other than my b-day present).

Mara: Hmmm...interesting.

Queen of Pain: <>: I oughta catch that. <<British Commandos and Navy Seals had just started to attack Afghanastan>>: Joy.

DPH: <<Please explain to me how we can have a modern war that would take over a year>>: They could refuse to give up.

Greg X: <<Feels good to type that again>>: Now if only I got WB. <<Now if only we had a date for G2002>>: Ya know, I wasn't gonna actually POST that when I mentioned it to you.

Alright, naptime, gotta be up early for Seybold.

They've really got my balls in a vice grip.
-Mr. Tweek, South Park

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, September 24, 2001 11:33:51 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-107.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

if you ever wanted to fly anywhere in the world, now's the time. The Airlines are so desperate they're slashing their prices by 20%. Some even more.

Now if only we had a date for G2002. Just kidding Siryn. I know you're working your butt off to pin a date and secure a hotel. We appreciate it.
Greg Bishansky
Monday, September 24, 2001 07:04:52 PM
IP: dialin-1012-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Like GXB I'm glad to be posting this

**************ANGEL SPOILERS********************************
We got to se how Angel goes through his grief, also how Fred is coping with back to our world reality, also niceto see that she is recieving her tacos. Love Wesley's new hair style.
I also hope Cordy will get through this pain. Next week will show what will happen.
I also likes James, and I can't wait to see more of Holtz

What a shocker Darla Preggners, but how in Joss's univers vamps can't have babies unless she did it with Lindsey before she was resired, but I don't know about the time line and how far along she is. I'd say about 8 and half months.

********************END SPOILERS****************************
Looking forward to what Todd and SJ will have to say.
Spacebabie
Monday, September 24, 2001 06:58:24 PM
IP: proxy.aus.netsetter.com

Fox News;

WASHINGTON — President Bush on Monday turned aside criticisms that Canada was slow to respond to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks -- and that he, in turn, snubbed the neighbor nation when listing the names of supportive countries in his speech to Congress.

"I didn't think it was necessarily important to praise a brother," Bush told reporters as he and Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien walked across White House grounds. He accused critics of trying to use the terror crisis to play politics within Canada, and "drive wedges between Canada and me."

"There should be no doubt in anybody's mind about how honored we are to have the support of the Canadians," Bush said. "When nations are under attack, now's not the time for politics. Now's the time to develop a strategy to fight and win the war."

Chretien, who had faced questions at home about whether his response to the terror attacks had been bold enough, cited Canada's immediate actions in the hours after the attacks, namely receiving about 45,000 Americans who were aboard 200 flights that were diverted to Canada when U.S. airports were closed.

The prime minister described the Canadian people as "traumatized" by the attacks in New York and Washington. He did not address his reluctance to immediately pledge full military support to a U.S.-led response, but said his country would work with Bush's coalition.

He said he would carry Bush's anti-terrorism message to a commonwealth meeting in Australia next month and later to a gathering of French-speaking countries in Lebanon.

"We will have to talk to all the leaders and tell them that we're all in that fight," Chretien said. "This problem of terrorism is a problem that concerns all the nations of the world. ... You have the support of Canadians. When you need us, we'll be there."

Chretien gave some remarks in French, and Bush nodded as Chretien spoke. The two leaders met in the Oval Office, then adjourned to Bush's living quarters for a private lunch.

The meeting was to focus on the level of cooperation from Canada, said White House spokesman Ari Fleischer. But he was careful to avoid criticizing Chretien, saying "Canada has been stalwart" in helping the United States and has committed fighters to the U.S.-led anti-terrorism effort.

Happy, Lain? ; )
Tim
Monday, September 24, 2001 06:46:49 PM
IP: wsc0072.wsc.edu

*** ANGEL SPOILERS ***

Feels good to type that again.

This was a good season premere. A lot of nice character development, and James was a somewhat sympathetic villain. The operation he underwent was interesting.

Nice to actually see Holtz. If the spoilers are to be trusted, we should be seeing more of him. I'm looking forward to it.

And the ending was definetly a surprise. I didn't think that vampires were capable of reproducing. Also, Darla does not look good pregnant.

*** END ANGEL SPOILERS ***
Greg Bishansky
Monday, September 24, 2001 06:29:23 PM
IP: dialin-1012-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

*enters from class*
sooo tired...tired...bed reeeal soon.

Mara: oooooo...a song and dance number...I am so entertained...ooo...*grins lopsidedly*

Aaron: s'okay. worth it. by far. far far by far didly-far-ar...I am sending you another email but dont worry no stream of consciousness with fishies swimming in it this time...mmm...chocolate...chocolate fishies like the fudgie fishes in Phish Food...i haven't had a symphony bar in a while, almond/toffee is delish indeed.

Crzy: oh, no, it was nothing bad...just a thought of something thinkable. Apparently. and rather of the more flattering variety. Maybe we can tell you sometime later and amuse you.
You can tell I've been up for 22 hpours on four hours sleep, can you not?

I looked up that link to cartoons...they had exosquad and i was happy. didn;t list Janyse Jaud as a VA, tho. they should have. her, I can always seem to recognize. she had a bit part as a search engine in a later episode of reboot...and she did the voice of this helmeted bug character that died in the first ep of that Kevin Sorbo spaceship show. "Refractions of Dawn", a cool name and a recognizable voice, so I jotted it down and sure enough it was her in the credits.
Now, if I can only go check and see if the guy who did Wolf Bronski's voice was the guy who played Crum (??) on Ah! Real Monsters. They sounded conspicuoulsy alike.
Why is it when I get tired my vocabulary seems to expand?
hm.

*flops, realizes she has to send an email, and gets back up...*
Lynati "Mrphblarggflabl..." Kshudrzzzzzz....
Monday, September 24, 2001 06:08:23 PM
IP: 207.221.70.224

This can't be. They're already repeating episodes of Farscape.

**FARSCAPE**
If we do run into aliens, I sure hope they run into somebody willing to exploit the technology and keep the aliens a secret.
**END FARSCAPE**

Tomorrow, I have to have X-rays done AGAIN. It has something to do with my insurance claim being over 1 year old. I can feel a difference, but I guess insurance company probably needs objective evidence.

256 episodes of smurfs? I wonder if the writers didn't reuse story titles. I can just imagine them taking over an hour just to pick out a story title because they keep picking old names.

Robby - too bad that site does not episode summaries.

How long before DB and DBZ start to lose ratings because of having too much of them?

I love my playfull kitty. I started rubbing on it and next thing I know it's following me around. The only problem is it's scared of strangers.

None of my immediate family (to my knowledge) served in Vietnam. I doubt any were draft-dodgers. If there was a draft, I'd hope they would have sense enough to either exclude me or let me serve behind the scenes in a computer facility. Didn't someone say it'd take 190+ days to get the first soldiers ready after a draft was declared? Please explain to me how we can have a modern war that would take over a year.

Oh yea, I need to ask this question: what other famous events have taken place on 9-11?

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Monday, September 24, 2001 06:07:23 PM
IP: max1-60.cwy.cei.net

Mooncat > "but while I'm a republican, I'm also a bohemian pagan chick who writes, smutty Gargoyles fic." - Woo... the new face of the GOP. I was hesitant at first, but I think maybe I can get into this Republican thing after all. >:)

GB > "I prefer Harry Pothead myself" - So you've read "Harry Pothead and the Pyschodelic Schoolbus" too, huh? :P

Crzy > Hey! Stop reminding us that we're getting old. :P And for the record... you can let Alan know that not only am I am glad I have still not discovered the answer to "what do Scotsmen wear under their kilts," I am in no hurry to find out. All those nekid heinies in "Braveheart" were bad enough. :P
Patrick Toman
Monday, September 24, 2001 05:54:03 PM
IP: ac8cb2a4.ipt.aol.com

From Gallup:President George W. Bush's call to arms in a nationwide address last Thursday evening has elicited widespread public support for a war against terrorism, as well as the highest presidential job approval rating ever measured by Gallup since it began asking the public for its evaluation over six decades ago. Bush's current 90% job approval rating is one point higher than President George H.W. Bush received at the end of the Gulf War in 1991, and higher than the approval rating received by Franklin Roosevelt after Pearl Harbor.

Makes you glad that election fiasco wound up this way :)
Tim Phipps
Monday, September 24, 2001 05:25:11 PM
IP: wsc0072.wsc.edu

Any fans of the MGS series in here? If so, this link is kinda fun.

http://www.buzzsite.com/goodies/MGSnamegen/
Anonymous
Monday, September 24, 2001 05:18:56 PM
IP: 0-1pool114-85.nas1.austin1.tx.us.da.qwest.net

Yes New Angel tonight!

Also I just saw the first Buffy episode on FX, If you have FX Buffy comes on at 7:00pm ET

Whoa! British Commandos and Navy Seals had just started to attack Afghanastan.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl
Monday, September 24, 2001 04:46:54 PM
IP: proxy.iad2.netsetter.com

Ravyn> <<Each of us, then, is a 'matching half' of a human whole, because each of us was sliced like a flatfish, two out of one, and each of us is always seeking the half that matches him.>> I feel a song coming on...

*Appears as if on cue, wearing a sweeeeeet Hedwig style 'do, a short sparkly black dress, fishnet thigh highs, and tennis shoes. Chibi Angie-chan and Chibi Demmie-chan singing back up*

When the earth was still flat
And the clouds made of fire
And mountains reached up to the sky
Sometimes higher-

Folks roamed the earth like big rolling kegs
They had two sets of arms they had two sets of legs
They had
Two faces peering out of one giant head
So they could look all around them as they
Talked while they read and they never
knew nothing of love.
It was before...

the origin of love.

Demmie and Angie: The origin of love.

Now there were three sexes then
One them looked like two men glued up back to back.
They're called the Children of the Sun.
And similiar in shape and girth was the Children of the Earth
They looked like two girls rolled up in one.

*looks over to her Aaron and smiles* And the Children of the Moon was like a fork shoved on a spoon.
They was part Sun, part Earth part daughter, part son.

The origin of love.

Now the Gods grew quite scared of our strength and defiance
And Thor said "I'm gonna kill them all with my hammer, like I killed the Giants."
But Zeus said "No, You better let me use my Lightening-like scissors. Like I cut the legs off the whale- dinosaurs into lizards."
And he grabbed up some bolts. He let out a laugh-said
"I'll split them right down the middle, gonna cut 'em right up in half"
And the storm clouds gathering up above
into great balls of fire.

*The three pause, as if feeling scattered drops of rain. They look up...

Cue pyrotechnics*

And then fire shot down from the sky in bolts
Like shining blades of a knife
And it ripped right through the flesh of the Children of the Sun and the Moon and the Earth.
And some Indian God sewed the wound up to a hole pulled it round to out bellies to remind us of the price we pay....

*Mara flashes her belly button, the chibis begin to headbang*

And Osirius and the Gods of the Nile
gathered up a great storm to blow a hurricane
To scatter us away
A flood of wind and rain
A sea of tidal waves
to wash us all away
And if we don't behanve
They'll cut us down again

*all move to side view, and stand on one foot*

And we'll all be hoppin' round on one foot.
Looking through one eye.

('Deny me, and be doomed')

*the music calms a little, turns bitter sweet.*

The last time I saw you
we had just split in two.
You was looking at me
I was looking at you.
You had a way so familiar
I could not recognize...
cuz you had blood on your face and I had blood in my eyes
But I could swear by your expression
that pain down in your soul was same as the one down in mine.
That's the pain that cuts a straight line down through the heart.

We called it love.

We wrapped our arms around each other tried shove ourselves back together we was making love, making love.

It was a cold dark evening such a long time ago
When by the mighty hand of Jove-
It's such a sad story how we became lonely, two-legged creatures...
the story
The origin of love.

That's the origin of love... Oh yeah, the origin of love.

The origin of love.

*A makeshift curtain falls, the Crowd roars*

Mara
Monday, September 24, 2001 04:25:21 PM
IP: ac9edfe6.ipt.aol.com

Do repeated posts of the same message count as SPAM? I don't want to sound like a bitch kitty, but the "Come Join my RP" post leads to a page with pop up ads, and every link on the page brings up a new pop up ad. And as far as I could see, there is no RP being played there.

Hallo Green Baron - Purrrs... I think I might have liked your kitty too. My Calico died a few weeks back. Maybe they'll get to meet and swap stories about their cat slaves.
As it is, I have my share of hentai kitties... Or rather, on overly flirty black tom (fixed) who thinks he is Don Juan and Cassanova all rolled up into one sleek black furred feline.

Well, me for some munchies. Angel premeires tonight! Woo hoo!

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, September 24, 2001 04:24:42 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Aaron> *goes back and rereads post* oops! my bad. You're right, wEnch. I didn't realize that I had mistyped it.

Today was busy at work but yet nothing too exciting or funny. Alot of arrests over the weekend that left me with a ton of paperwork to do.

Funny thing that I overheard at the Subway shop. Two pre or early teen girls sitting in the booth giggling and swooning over the picture of Jared. (the guy who lost all of that weight on a Subway diet).

Anna went to her monthly doctor's appt. today. The baby's heartbeat is good and strong. She has a rare condition called PUPS - which is an unknown rash over her upper body area. She'll have another ultrasound on Wed.

Christine> *LOL* yeppers! I thought all last year while cleaning and changing diapers of an 11 year old boy.. WHY?? and "I went to school for THIS??" I'll take dress down duty over diaper duty any day, though! *L*

Heh, I heard from teacher friend of mine that the principal at my old school... she has insulted some parents so much that several of them now refuse to meet with her without a witness present! *falls over laughing* go moms!! hehe Rumor has it that she's in deep do-do with the school district these days. It's about time!

ok, gotta' go back to figuring out what I'm going to do with my lack of closet space. O.o I need about 4 more closets in my room... eep!
Jan
Monday, September 24, 2001 04:23:22 PM
IP: modem18-109.mo-net.com

Come and join my new Gargoyles RPG!!!! It's not much now but I need everyone's help to get it off the ground!! You can play your own original character or play any available character from the show!! It'll be tons of fun. Thanks!!

The address is: http://pub94.ezboard.com/bgargoylesrpg

Garg Mistress - [garg_mistress@hotmail.com]
USAMonday, September 24, 2001 03:57:50 PM
IP: ac8b6462.ipt.aol.com

Green Baron> Well, the link's not working. So here's the address: www.capitalism.org.
metaldemon
Monday, September 24, 2001 03:20:04 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

green baron> just click on my name.
Hell, man, I would want to bring down the iron curtain, too. The took away ALL freedom; that wasn't socialism at all, IMHO.
Plus,it upsets me that the Pope looks down on Liberation Theology; probably because they were doing stuff without his permission, like interpreting the Gospels and applying them to social crises; or not appealing to his authority.
Anyways, look under religion on the web-site and read it all.
Later.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Monday, September 24, 2001 03:17:18 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Hey, all...I'll try to get a longer post going. There's a tornado watch going on and I'm swamped with work. Sorry!

Josh: Did you get my latest email? The network's been screwy, internet timing in and out, and I have a suspicion that it may be MIA ;)

Adios!
Niamhgold
Monday, September 24, 2001 03:10:32 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

Jannie> I've noticed this before, and I think you're typing winch when you mean wench. A wench is a woman of dubious character. A winch is something on the front of a wrecker used to haul pickups out of ditches.

Tim> Pest and I would both like to assure you that that person has nothing to do with us.

Moochie> <<To my understanding, we could have (and SHOULD have) WON that war if we'd fought it right.>> Trouble was, we tried to take an army built and trained for heavy tank warfare on the open rolling plains of western Europe, and dump it into an extremely dense jungle to fight an enemy with something like 900 years more experience at guerilla warfare then us. It was a bad idea.

Josh> Hey, don't be dissin' the Blue Man group. ;) <<That's from Duke Nukem.>> No, it's from They Live, which pre-dates Duke by about a decade.

Crzy> Happy b-day. And you were kind enough to tell us how many spankings to give you too... <<You talkin' smack about me again, boy?>> Heh heh heh. What ever do you mean, J-Sama?

Ravyn> <<Each of us, then, is a 'matching half' of a human whole, because each of us was sliced like a flatfish, two out of one, and each of us is always seeking the half that matches him.>> I feel a song coming on...

Patrick> <<Also... the cold medicine has helped inspire some new fanfic ideas.>> Hmmm, maybe I should try that... <<Where's Osama? > Hey, I think I've got a new idea for a series of children's books. :P >> I knew someone would say that.

GB> <<they root for the cowboys instead of the Saints>> Like the Saints aren't owned by a guy from San Antonio anyway.

Lynati> Sorry about the no sleep thing. :(

Dreamie> <<What happened to Wolfie?>> Um, I hate to point this out, but the mug falls open side up...

Hey, if Osama's a multi-millionaire, does that mean we can start filing wrongful death lawsuits against him?

Finally saw Unbreakable last night. Good flick.

Later.

"F**k your digital camera!" My brother, responding to a pop-up ad.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, September 24, 2001 02:59:58 PM
IP: 209.33.140.100

Hey Hey Everyone! I hope everyone's lives are returning to at least a smidge of normalcy. :)

Josh: Happy Belated Birthday! <<You two have to stop posting together before I either gag or go really crazy.>> We were under the impression both had already occurred ^_~ <<<>: I assume that's Dreamie, since she weighs 43 lbs.>> Heh, no that was Wolfie. Ever since I was 6 when I sipped from a glass on the counter I thought was water, which turned out to be alcohol, which I thought was the most horrible thing I ever tasted, I never had any desire whatsoever to try alcohol.

Robby: <<Animaniacs country song>> LOL! ^_^ <<Even scarier... SMurfs ran for 9 years and 256 episodes...>> And dernit, I'm *still* looking for "Dreamy Smurf" merchandise.

SOROW: :::waves::: Welcome Back!

Aaron:<<(Wipes the pie off his face and drops a mug the size of a buick in front of the CR door, cutting off Dreamie's escape) I warned you people.>> *My* escape? What happened to Wolfie? :::suddenly hears a tapping from inside the giant mug.::: Ah Cripes... O.o

Welcome to all the new and returning posters!

Lynati:<<*waves at them*>> :::Waves back::: ^_~

Revel: Happy Belated Birthday you dancin' casanova, you!! ;D

Ravyn:<<Y'all are cute. Just thought I'd say that. :)
>> Heh heh, thanks! ;) <<Oh, heck yeah...drunk people are soooo funny. :)>> Especially when it's your serious dad and uncle at night in a campground not only *playing*, but pretending to have a lightsaber duel in the sky with their flashlights. O.O <<The Speech of Aristophanes>> Aw... that's really sweet ^_^ <<Actually, I'm going to try to become the next Chyna...>> I say we don black vinyl body suits and stocking hoods and infiltrate the WWF, taking control of a few of the beefy menzes and running a muck in the storylines. Mmm... the gimmick possibilities.

FS:<<Pika?>> Heh heh heh... That's the stuff. >:)

Winterwolf:<<I'm going to be moving soon.>> :::cuddles and grins::: <> LoL, Goof! ^_~ :::kisses:::

I think that's about it!
Toodles! ^_^
:::waves and jumps into Wolfie's arms:::
Dreamie
Monday, September 24, 2001 02:55:02 PM
IP: acb4a60a.ipt.aol.com

Lynati - all things are true. ;) (if not in this universe, then maybe in another)

Aaron - You talkin' smack about me again, boy? ::licks::
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Monday, September 24, 2001 02:25:05 PM
IP: 1cust33.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

Even scarier... SMurfs ran for 9 years and 256 episodes...

Annonymous- If you're posting just to see pictures, stop it. THere's a link at the top of the page that lets you view all the pictures.
Robby
Monday, September 24, 2001 02:21:45 PM
IP: ac956c2d.ipt.aol.com

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Anonymous
Monday, September 24, 2001 01:58:30 PM
IP: 149.163.51.81

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Anonymous
Monday, September 24, 2001 01:57:39 PM
IP: 149.163.51.81

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Anonymous
Monday, September 24, 2001 01:57:31 PM
IP: 149.163.51.81

Hey guys, I just found a fairly extensive animation database, that lists when a series aired and how many episodes it had... It even has obscure stuff like Fish Police and The Legend of Zelda! (Zelda only had 13 episodes? I coulda sworn it had more...)

Go to (or just click my name)
http://www.pazsaz.com/toonrfic.html

(And frighteningly enough, Muppet Babies ran for 7 years and had well over 100 episodes...
Robby
Monday, September 24, 2001 01:57:01 PM
IP: ac956c2d.ipt.aol.com

Hey everyone! I really didn't have a very good weekend so I won't go into the details on that, but I hope everyone is doing alright. Thank the dragon, the CR is still standing!
SOROW - [allison.abadie@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, September 24, 2001 01:49:21 PM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

*looks up, reads Crzy's last post*

Okay, Aaron. NOW I believe you...heh heh heh...
(Incidently, I was NOT able to fall asleep again last night. Sucks to be me, I guess.)

*back to the fic*
Lynati
Monday, September 24, 2001 01:35:41 PM
IP: kcx-ks19a-159.rasserver.net

Just a quick note:
Imzadi> the new "art" will be up, probably by the end of the day today.

And to anyoen that's interested: In an attempt to break out of my usual subjects, I'm open to commission work. E-mail me and we'll work something out. I don't think I'm good enough to charge yet, but that may change later.
Hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Monday, September 24, 2001 12:51:15 PM
IP: pool-151-197-32-33.phil.east.verizon.net

Siofra: <<His payback is his contribution to the world of computers, which in my opinion, its more important to have people like him around where they can help more than going off and getting killed. >> [scoffs] Gee, as if there was such a huge deficit of computer programmers and technicians. Hell, there is so many of them running around it's getting to be a pain in the ass. Don't get me wrong, I believe their often needed. But alot of them have become so self absorbed with their technical skills they often ridicule the electronically un-inclined and often ramble for long periods of time about technical nuances that no one who leaves his house for more than 30 minutes per day than they need to know or gives a shit about. Some have even become so militantly preocuppied with a particular brand of hardware or software they put down anyone who uses a different brand.

I'm old enough to remember when the "in" career choice was the S&L racket. Now thanks to all the career schools that popped up, there are enough Ivan Boisky clones to defruad every man, woman and child on Earth.

<<Okay, first of all, will (SJ) please tone down the language in your posts.>> Hey, hey, HEY! Don't make me do the "Asshole" song again.
<<And also, not all of us 'new flower children' are opposed to retaliation. Just because we hug trees it does not mean that we don't know how the world works and what needs to be done when the time comes.>> Which bring up a quesion: What *would* you be willing to fight for. I know a lot of left-winger aren't above throwing a chair through the window of Starbucks because they disapprove of their treatment of young coffee bean pickers in South America. But not take up arms when there is a clear and present danger to our county. At least these young South Americans are actually *working*!

I know there are alot of people who would evade the draft becuase the don't want to commit a strong violation of their ethics. Now, while I applaud these citizens for their dedication to their ideals and for having the courage to act on their personal conscience, I also offer them one word of advice: move. It's a big world out there, Rainbow McDolphin. If you don't feel like paying the cover charge at Club America, pack up your Birkenstocks and find yourself another place to groove.

You know, in 30 years, this country has gone from Vietnam protestors placing rose petals down the barrels of National Guardsmen's rifles to tossing over garbage cans and setting fire to police cars because you think every major corporation on Earth is conspiring to enslave the economic low class. I can't tell if we've grown soft or just lost our fucking minds.

Tim
Monday, September 24, 2001 11:08:06 AM
IP: wsc0072.wsc.edu

Josh - ".if you don't think you have cleavage, I'd be scared to see a woman that you think DOES have cleavage" Oh, I have cleavage... I just don't have ROGUE cleavage... that boyant, smiling at the sun sort of perky cleavage. "<>: Instead of the other way around?" It's been a 'mutual admiration society' thing for a few years now. I think my "worship" stage ended when I had him rubbing my feet at G99. Yes, BOW TO ME MORTAL!! err.. sorry... carried away again. O.O

Christine - For the record, Alan decided if he was going to dress as Macbeth, he was going to do it as a TRUE Scotsman. >:) He's come a long way in his shyness... Now I think he would probably flash you! ;)

Carolynn Marie - "dick flick" OMG!! LOL!! I am SO going to use that term. ::busting up::

GB - You are going to be 25!! GODS!! We are all getting so OLD... I remember when you were just a BABY! ;) Also, Reagan gave Carter plenty of credit for his work on getting the hostages freed. He was also ready to interupt his own inaugural address in order to let Carter speak had they released them before Reagan was in office. I miss Presidents who had integrity... ::sighs::

Time to take kids to school... BBL!
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Monday, September 24, 2001 10:54:59 AM
IP: 1cust140.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

Greetings CR. Today is nasty an drainy, but I jsut oredered two correspondence courses, so I'm happy. Thos eocurses add up promotion points so I can make Sergeant :)

Jaden> One of my "clan" in 39th Finance will be in Ft Lewis. Maybe you'll see him if you have a pay problem, provided your pac blows you off constantly. All thsi riany weather in Germany makes me want to PCS to Ft Huachuca. I bet Ravyn would like that.

Imzadi> <<You're damn right I'd rather sit on my ass drinking capuccinos (or lattes, as it were)>> The Cafeteria in Hanau has a Cappucino machine. So did the one in Ft Jackson.

<> That is sad. I regret growing up so soft. That was my own fault, though. If Americans were more Hun-like, we wouldn't be held hostage by guys with boxcutters. I owuldn't mind being a barbarian with an aristocratic background, a Business Education, strong Marian devotion, proper manners and grooming, and a three-piece suit. Well, barabarian means foregin so we are barbarians, since America is a nation of people from other lands, united as Americans. We're kind of like the Huns, only no one will name their cute cuddly kitten after President Bush, 1500 years later.

<<And you sure don't look like a steer to me!>> That's a Texas reference, actually. Besides, your state re-elected Barbara Boxer. That shows there is something wrong, plus Louisiana would never elect a prune like Maxine Waters, even in New Orleans :)

<<THEN ITS NOT A THEOCRACY!>> Well, I prefer my current Pope to one of those Renaissance crooks, and i think you'd agree with me there.

<<but then she'd probably eat me.>> It depends where....that's something Attila would say. My dead cat is possessing me again, only I can't get away with hitting on every woman in the CR like he could, nor would I want to.

<<I've sent the big blue bastid>>: Oberon!?>> Jericho. He's one bad motherf*cker :) and an honorary citizen of anywhere in the Appalachian Mountains because of his relatiosn with Demona :)

Greg> Generally, I'd agree with you about the anti-war movement, until they start cheering the VC and burning down ROTC buildings. Well, they were a minority. Incidentally, a number of anti-war people were Republicans, especially since Lyndon Johnson was the principal reason for the war and keeping it on in a half-ass state. Of coruse, I really blame DeGaulle, who got us in there, as well as Truman who should have made France give it up after WWII, then Ho Chi Minh would have been a loyal allay to America and would never have asked the Soviets for help. Ho Chi Minh was a self-serving opportunist and America can work with them :)

Courtney> Its funny what they don't teach about teh Civil War. I'm from the South, and I didn't learn that General Lee was a staunch opponent of slavery until College (in English class), nor that slavery was really an issue at the start of the war. But that's another post.

As for hippies, I went the opposite direction in High School. I started wearing three-piece suits, ahd a dollar ribbon, and was more ocnservative than I am now. I made SJ look like a Liberal in those days.

Jannie> I really don't consider Monroe a part of Louisiana, though I like how they vote. I consdier it more Southern Arkansas, and Shreveport to be more like Texas (they root for the cowboys instead of the Saints). The French areas (and these are laid back cajuns from France before tehir stupid revolution) to be true Louisiana. Plus Missouri was Louisiana at one time :)

For a good battle sight, Chalmette has the Battle of New orleans stuff, but it is Chalmette, a cheesy suburb and by cheesy, I mean cheesy :)

Demona Crzy> Happy Birthday to you crazy one. See you in Virginia when I turn 25 :)

Lain> 30%? Even better. They strike me as friendly, plus as the NA conquers territories we can send Army surplus stuff to create shelters for the conquered people to show goodwill (plus armed guards to be on the safe side). Plus we can even send Muslim chaplains (of Sunni and Shiite beliefs) with chapel-like tents as a sign of even greater goodwill, since I imagine soem of these villages may not even have mosques, due to the Civil War. Then we can start rebuilding once the battle is won (though mainly teh peace corps can do this with the military there to keep things safe, but I imagine plenty of soldiers will help when tehir duty hours are up. I imagine if you get sent there, you'd be doing more humanitarian stuff than fighting. I imagine most Afghanis are sick of fighting, anyway.

I agre about Pakistan. The US screwed up when the pushed North Korea and the North Vietnamese into China. Of course, when teh Taliban are purged from Afghanistan, Pakistan should be next. The general may want to get rid of potential rivals so he may help us flush out a threat to his power. The Taliban are like Puritans and should become a part of history books like Puritans are today.

<<.. poor mother.. >> That wasn't one mother, but probably four mothers. Still, that's a lot for one woman to have and this is coming form an Irish Catholic :)

<<and did you know that the CIA spent more money supporting bin laden and his operation than theyve spent on anything else in history? even AFTER they started spouting anti-american drivel?>> Adjusting for inflation, we may have spent more on Ho Chi Minh in WWII. The CIA really has to be careful with that sort of thing.

I don't understand why Bush left out Canada. That is a mystery to me. Canada's elite forces are better than America's so he may have cost his cause a few good men.

Bill Maher> Now that I rethink it, Davdi Horowitz presented a good defense of his free speech right. Maher is right about Clinton's cowardice in bombing a $10 tent and a pharmaceutical factory in Sudan.

<<Were there ever any liberals in here?>> Well, there's a time to put aside differences.

Lain> In the US, the Centre-Left and Far Left are in one party. The same for the centre-right and far right. What about Libertarians and Natural Law Party?

Entity> What's so bad about God Bless America? If the Presidnet were Wiccan, he'd say, "Blessed Be". The Pope and US Ambassador to the Vatican Jim Nicholson prayed a few Hail Marys for us. The gestures are out of love and support. Best not to look so harshly at goodwill.

<<why do you think God will favor one team over the other?>> Well, I hope you ahve nothing againts the Hail Mary pass :)

Patrick> <<it's time to wake up and realize that not all of the world's problems can be cured by hugging a tree.>> That makes me wonder what would happen if Gore were President.

SJ> <<Now I really mean this. Seriously, I REALLY mean this: I honestly hope that whomever shares that view (the "America deserved it" p.o.v.) gets Full Blown AIDS and dies with excrutiating pain. Slowly.>> How about the ones who made America vulnerable to such an attack?

<<That, and we love Mr. Bean.>> You need to see the BlackAdder. Rowan Atkinson is much better in that role.

SJ> <<Yeah, they probably would have thrown your ass in jail, like they did Ali, but I have INFINITELY more respect for those who had the courage to say no and face judgement for doing so, than those who just said "Feets don't fail me now!" and booked it out of the country.>> Concientuous objectors also got jobs involving medic stuff where they would be saving lives, instead of killing.

BTW, Clinton shot more missiles than Bush and Reagan combined, though Reagan meant business. The Ayatollah could play with Jimmy Carter, but when Reagan got elected, he got scared and freed the hostages.

<<You may not LIKE it? But you will learn to, What?? LOVE IT!!! Why??? BOTTOM LINE! Because we are the United States of America…..and we are, THE BEST THING GOING TODAY!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! >>
The problem is staying there. We are getting soft. I hope we toughen up and soon, like how the Israelis are. Granted, we lost 6,000 in the recent attacks, but Israel lost 1,000 last year and comapring our populations, taht woudl be liek losing 40,000 American lives. Now, we have a tiny idea of wht they have to deal with. If we don't get tougher and harder, America will not be so lucky next time.

Hyperion> Thanks for the info. I'll tell Didem about them. She may know the areas.

My other beef with Ayn Rand was she was exclusive. I may have been a huge fan of hers, but she would snub me if I didn't totally agree with her. Greenspan lost his status with her over some disagreement. Still, as an Economist, she was brilliant, right up with Hayek, Von Mises, Smith, Rothbard, Laffer, and Friedman.

Christine> How about BlackAdder in charge of a ship? With Commander Baldrick, too? Even in a Utopian Sci-Fi setting, Baldrick would still stink.

Metaldemon> If Socialism and Christianity were that compatible, I'd have turned in my rosary a long time ago. I knwo the Pope has been very critical of Liberation Theology and he was instrumental in bringing down the Iron Curtain. I'm certain pure capitalism is not compatibel with most religions, but I don't beleive capitalsism is unChristian. Show me this website about capitalism.

Mooncat> <<but while I'm a republican, I'm also a bohemian pagan chick who writes, smutty Gargoyles fic.>> Well, we need more diversity in the party. And you like cats, so I like you, and so would my perverted kitty if he were alive. You should read the old posts about him.

Imzadi> In all honesty, if we have a draft, we'll be smart and not put guys like you in the grunt lines. I see you as an AG Officer working on Pentagon computers cracking enemy codes. I'm a Finance soldier and if I go to Bosnia, I stay in Headquarters making sure the soldeirs get paid. Of course, I knew some who joined the military so tehy wouldn't be drafted into a combat MOS. Hopefully, there weren't be a draft,a nd if there is, they'll reserve all the cannon fodder for those who make good cannon fodder (mainly the bottom 10% of the income ladder).

Man in the Iron Mask> I loved the movie,e sepcially the costumes. Yeah, it wasn't accurate since King Louis XIV was a jerk and led to that reign of madmen starting in 1798, but it was a good movie form my perspective, though mainly due to the costumes :)

Carolynn> The whoel Harry Potter thing amuses me. I prefer Harry Pothead myself :)

The Marquis was more fit to be a Roman Emperor than a French noblemen (being descended form a line of marquises, I have greater distaste for him). His best friend was a Baron Masoch from Austria. Now, you know how one form of depravity got started :)

<<Joaquin's character was a deformed vertically-challenged guy>> Hunchback

Spacebabie> I will becoem a resident fo Florida soon. I'm changing my legal residence to my Uncle's retiremnt condo in Broward County. I'll avoid paying income taxes and I can cast a vote for Jeb against Red Janet. I may hav eto switch parties since the Democrats control Broward locally and I want a say in the primaries.

Xanatos> <<As for whether I'll change party affiliations. >> There are Republicans who share many of your views. Mark Foley of Florida is very pro gay rights and pro-choice though he opposes partial birth abortions. Sadly, some Republicans showed up at Matthew Sheppard's funeral and got mocked by the liberals for paying their respects. Your political affiliation shoudl really depend on where you live. If you live in NYC, except for Satten Island, be a Democrat so you can vote in teh primaries for a winnable candidate. Westchester is Democratic, but I think Duchess is more Republican and Sue Kelly (your Congresswoman) is a Republican you'd agree with. Plus I think an atheist will have a better chance of being elected as a Republican than as a Democrat.

Siofra> When you rule Ireland, can I have free access to all the holy sites?

Tim P> My dad joined the NAVY to avoid Vietnam. He was in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, instead.

That is all I have to post for now.

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Pioneer Kasserne, Hanau, Germany
Monday, September 24, 2001 10:36:54 AM
IP: bfce.hanau.army.mil

<---- "You could look this good too if you don't mind a little eating disorder"

The poster boy for 4-F.

Draft-dodgers & Dogfaces: My family has both of them.

Mother's Side
Grandpa: Drafted (WWII) Army
Uncle #1: (Vietnam) Navy- discharched on a Section 8. He had a car accident that result in the death of another person.
Uncle #2: draft-dodger & drunk
Uncle #3 & #4: not old enough
Uncle #5: Thought about enlisting, but "aunt" Phillipe did not think they would approve. Hey, it's more than what alot of people would do.

Father's Side (All except the last couple of generations were farmers. They were deemed too valueble stateside.)
Father: Lucked out of draft (Vietnam) on lotto system set up by Nixon 1973. Glad he lucked out, but I suspect he has a few regrets.
Cousin Stacy's husband: Air National Guard (Post-Cold War)
Cousin Keith Orsini: United States Marine Corps (Operation Just Cuase in Panama & Desert Sheild/Desert Storm)

Me: United States Marine Corps
Semper Fi!

Tim
Monday, September 24, 2001 10:17:58 AM
IP: wsc0072.wsc.edu

Come and join my new Gargoyles RPG!!!! It's not much now but I need everyone's help to get it off the ground!! You can play your own original character or play any available character from the show!! It'll be tons of fun. Thanks!!

The address is: http://pub94.ezboard.com/bgargoylesrpg
Garg Mistress - [garg_mistress@hotmail.com]
USAMonday, September 24, 2001 10:15:11 AM
IP: aca1d296.ipt.aol.com

Hullo.. i'm sleeping as i post this.... really I am... so ignore my typos. We had a 2 am fire scare... they smelled smoke in our bldg, which has the wonderful burntime of 5 min end to end and 15 to the ground.... was not good... I ended up awake till 5 am avoiding nightmares about losing everything to the firetrap I live in... it sucked.

anyway... I'm watching this CR for news as to the state of our country and war etc. so noone post me anny lies now y'hear! ;)

Gunjack: you ever on MSN IM anymore? i miss poking you and lain and people.

::waves and scampers into bed:: NAPTIME!!!!
Aingeal
Going, Insane
Monday, September 24, 2001 10:08:40 AM
IP: 207.42.162.177

Patrick -- Purrs and virtual chicken soup. I hope you are feeling better. Thanks for the comments on TGS. There's a mailing list? Looking forward to seeing your cold medicine inspired fics *^_~*

Well, I'm awake... sigh. Might as well get the day started and fics finished. The house cleaning also continues *whee* !!!

Craving Some Tako Maki
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, September 24, 2001 09:47:36 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Siofra> <<His payback is his contribution to the world of computers, which in my opinion, its more important to have people like him around where they can help more than going off and getting killed. >> yeah, him and about 10 million other computer operators in this country. His computer skills can be used in the military, if drafted. I don't think that your lovie is above anyone else when it comes to the draft. Besides, being drafted isn't an automatic death sentence. Sure, the risks increase dramatically, but not all soldiers are killed in action. I have a son to consider too and I'm not thrilled with the possibility of him being drafted... but if he's called, he'll go. He is certainly not "soldier" material, but he will do what he has to do.
<<Just because we hug trees it does not mean that we don't know how the world works and what needs to be done when the time comes. >> as long as someone else does it?
Jan
Monday, September 24, 2001 09:25:37 AM
IP: modem18-109.mo-net.com

Hey everyone! Hope you all had a good weekend. My boyfriend ended up coming down to visit me on Friday night and then stayed the whole weekend. It was so much fun! We walked all over campus and went out to eat and stuff. He got to hang out with all of my friends here, which was really cool too. I even got some work done while he was playing around on my computer! All that and I'm actually excited about going to classes today! I have a metals project that I can't wait to get started on. That's about it lately in my life, just been trying to keep up with everything while still having fun. Irish dancing starts back up this Thursday, so I'm really looking forward to that. Well, I guess I'll jump into replies!

Jan: <<if someone is drafted, I believe it's their civic duty/responsibility to oblige. If you enjoy the freedoms and all that our country has to offer, then there may come a time when you have to do some payback.>> All I know is that if the love of my life gets drafted, he and his dad will be taking an extended hunting trip into Canada... His payback is his contribution to the world of computers, which in my opinion, its more important to have people like him around where they can help more than going off and getting killed.

Greg: <<"Day of Rememberence" rather than a "Day of Prayer">> Very good idea, I think its about time that the people of this nation realize that there are some of us out there that don't believe what they do. They change the names of things all the time so as not to offend people, like Christmas break being called Winter Break. I don't think that a whole lot of Christians made an issue about that. <> That's good,I hadn't really thought about it in those words before. I think that's what I need to start telling people when they ask me how I can live believing what I do.

Lynati: <<*does a dance*>> Oh, don't you start too! :-)

lain: <<daisy-pickin tree-huggin liberal>> LOL! Me too! Me too!

SJ: Okay, first of all, will you please tone down the language in your posts. It seems that every time I try to skip over what you've written, I seem to catch some profane word or obscene phrase that really isn't necessary. I'm sure with such a creative mind you should be able to come up with more appropriate wording. (I'm not trying to play administrator here, I'm am just stating that I for one am becoming increasingly offended by some of the things you say and I am asking you to kindly tone it down.) And also, not all of us 'new flower children' are opposed to retaliation. Just because we hug trees it does not mean that we don't know how the world works and what needs to be done when the time comes.

Carolynn Marie: <<*growls at the ceiling* Okay, don't get me wrong, folks, but the worst thing about college is the girl living above you who has to have her boyfriend over at all hours of the day and night. It sounds like they're moving furniture up there, coupled with a loud documentary from the Discovery Channel on the mating rituals of some really vocal monkey. Christ on a cracker... >> Eeep! I hope our neighbors don't think that about us when he comes to visit me! ;-)

Okay, that's it for now. Have a great day everyone!
Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Ann Arbor, MI
Monday, September 24, 2001 08:21:42 AM
IP: bursley-216-244.reshall.umich.edu

I only asked it twice because teh frist time i asked i reloaded the page and it turned over to the new week
i didnt think anyone had seen it. i wont be asking that question again.
Bill Schaub - [talon@hancock.k12.mo.us]
Monday, September 24, 2001 09:24:19 AM
IP: 209.83.137.173

I hate being sick. And I hate being sick even more when the cold starts on Friday night and lasts all weekend. On the up side... I've finally had a chance to get some of my software set up on my laptop while sitting in bed. Some of the colors in this comment room sure look different on this screen, too. Also... the cold medicine has helped inspire some new fanfic ideas.

SJ > You and I have been in agreement with each other so much lately, I'm starting to wonder if maybe we aren't the same person. Or maybe that's just the cold medicine kicking in again. :P

Where's Osama? > Hey, I think I've got a new idea for a series of children's books. :P

Josh > You think you will escape the world of Dilbert by not working an engineering job? Ha! Little do you know that ALL of corporate America looks like the world of Dilbert. There is no escape once you have touched down on the Planet of the Cubicles! ;)

Mooncat > "The Gargoyles Saga" started up in late 1996 / early 1997 as a series of "what if" comment room dialogs over on the S8 board. Even though I was involved, I'm not even sure I could name a date when it officially got started. I'm not even sure of the exact time we got our first mailing list. But the first story was premiered at Gathering 1997 in June of that year. I worked on TGS for the first two seasons. I retired from it in 1999, while there was still a chance to save my sanity. It was a fun project during the time I worked on it, but it took up a lot of free time and started to seem more and more like work rather than recreation after a while.
Patrick Toman
Monday, September 24, 2001 08:12:03 AM
IP: acad9cd5.ipt.aol.com

::listening to Nine Inch Nails "Pretty Hate Machine"::

Trent Reznor rocks.

I suppose you could say I worked today, but it really doesn't feel like it since the call volume was so light (I love my shift). I did homework, typed up this post, and ate junk food (though not necessarily in that order).

I left work early because my internet connection (or lack thereof) was making it VERy difficult to do my job. I went with my friends Mike, Vinay, and their friend Ian to Cheesecake Factory in San Fran. A great restaurant, but the waits were awful. We spent nearly 3 hours talking about all things mac. I love those conversations. Not a minute spent bashing Windows, to boot.

Jan: <<if someone is drafted, I believe it's their civic duty/responsibility to oblige. If you enjoy the freedoms and all that our country has to offer, then there may come a time when you have to do some payback>>: And I believe that I would do a greater disservice to our country by actually stepping up to be cannon fodder than by running somewhere where my other talents could be utilized. <<you could have been born in one of the starving and deprived countries>>: Like Canada ;-) <<in the end, I wouldn't allow him to do that (if I had any say in it) and would nervously see him be drafted>>: Heh...my parents would buy my plane ticket. <<to knock the penises off of the smart ones>>: Yeah but the really smart ones figured out a way to keep them, because quite frankly the ability to pee standing up is the mark of a superior race. <>: I was on the phone with him last night while I was at RHPS...I think he overheard some of what's going on and has some very...unpleasant...things to do to the Afghanis.

Smut Pandering Bitch Queen of All Creation: <<we were all trying to see what MacBeth had under his tunic besides those remarkable legs>>: Plaid underwear? <<the fight scenes went way beyond all credibility>>: CTHD much? <<Becca's report? "I liked the fights and the explosions." Atta girl>>: A truly cultured young woman!

Demoness: <<Is that it?>>: Probably not. <<What happened to Vlad Tepes and his vampires?>>: Do you think they'd really tell you if they even knew!? <<Who were those shooters that shot Brooklyn and why?>>: Same question. <<Will Season 3 ever be continued?>>: No, silly. Season 3 ends when they stop writing episodes for it (which they have). Next will probably be...SEASON FOUR. <<Will it contain the newer information that we have learned from Greg at "Ask Greg" such as Mab, the Space-Spawn, etc etc>>: Okay obviously you don't have a real keen idea of what's going on here. The TGS staff took what info was available at the time and ran with it. They've evolved their own universe. Those things may or may not exist in the TGS universe. <<Do you think its possible to fit this new information with what is already written?>>: No, its not possible. Duval can't be both Percival and Lancelot.

Carolynn Marie: <<telling him to get over his inadequete feelings and just put moves on her, already>>: HAH! Easier said than done. <<Sort of like trying to sit through Saving Private Ryan's first twenty minutes>>: Heh. I'm a war buff, so that really didn't faze me. <<It's a *ahem* dick flick!>>: I don't think you can call guy movies that. It makes no sense. It sounds like a euphamism for a porn. They're just "guy movies". <<clapping to the Windows rant>>: Thank you. <<The only place where you can buy your books>>: Actually there are about 10 places to buy books around campus here, but they all cost about the same. <<don't ever take a Philosophy class>>: Too late, already took two. My conclusion: philosophers are stoned. Permanently. <<It helps to pay attention in 12th grade European History>>: Forget to do that? <<they're stuck on Harry Potter and no more Pokemon and Britney Spears>>: Definitely a positive switch.

Bill: Okay look, if you ask a question once and no one answers it, asking it again isn't going to help.

DPH: <<Why was MS checking out that city, though>>: BECAUSE THEY CAN. <<people in Seatle charge a special $.01 sales tax only applied to MS employees>>: That's not enough.

Queen of Pain: <>: Happens to the best of us. <<trip>>: Sounds like you had a good time. Personally, I avoid my family...they're weird. <<Happy belated birthday>>: Thanks. <<sorry you have to deal with Hippy morons>>: Me too. <<are youthinking of coming over to the dark side>>: He's already there.

Greg X: <<You've already seen Mab in TGS. One varient on the name Mab is Maeve>>: I didn't think Mab would take kindly to being her son's second. <>: Good to know. <<Is there a political party that agrees with me on all these things?>>: YES! There IS! Its the "Josh for World Dictator" party!

Ravyn: <<Can't find bin Laden??? YEAH RIGHT!>>: Hell, we haven't been able to find him for years! Why is this so hard to believe? <<Grrr!!>>: Heh, heh. When I am king...hey, how would you like to be the ONLY woman on the road? ;-)

Courtney: <>: I'm shocked.

K folks, good night.

Being a Linux user is sort of like living in a house inhabited by a large family of carpenters and architects. Every morning when you wake up, the house is a little different. Maybe there is a new turret, or some walls have moved. Or perhaps someone has temporarily removed the floor under your bed.
- Unix for Dummies, 2nd Edition

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, September 24, 2001 02:51:30 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-104.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Please join my new Gargoyles RPG!! It's not much now but I'm trying to get it off the ground. I need all the people I can get to join!! It'll be tons of fun. Thanks!!

The address is: http://pub94.ezboard.com/bgargoylesrpg
Garg Mistress - [garg_mistress@hotmail.com]
Monday, September 24, 2001 12:18:31 AM
IP: ac9bf5c0.ipt.aol.com

On a little side note, I'm gathering research for another story, this one dealing with some lil' Southern setting. Can anybody give some low-down on the ins and outs of a Cajun accent? Slang words? How the verbs sound? Any help would be mighty appreciated. You can leave a message here in the comment room or email me. Much obliged! :)
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Sunday, September 23, 2001 10:52:04 PM
IP: pc169-207.drew.edu

<<The Taliban are getting to be darn hilarious..."Oh, you know what, America? Now we can't find bin Laden any more...he might not be in our country, so pleeeease don't attack the hell out of us." Can't find bin Laden??? YEAH RIGHT!!! ;) >> *snorts* Well, they'd BETTER find bin Laden pretty damn quick, or else they'll have smoke comin' out their rears pretty soon. Which is kinda sad, because the Afghani PEOPLE *stressing people, not gov't* have been subjugated for so long. Heard a lot of 'em are fleeing the country. I pity them, NOT the Taliban and its terrorists.

Bush was actually funny a few days ago. Someone asked him about plans for Afghanistan, and he responded something like, "You really think I'm going to just send over a $10 million missile to hit a $100 tent? Trust me, we're gonna do something, and when we do, we're gonna hit something GOOD". Riot! So the guy can speak without using a teleprompter! I liked it.

GREG< That's cool. IMHO, I preferred the book *MAJOR "HANNIBAL" SPOILERS!!!* I mean, in the book, sure, Clarice ends up with Hannibal, and I didn't like that. Yet the book had that bizarre twist of Thomas' that I liked. That's why I adore his writing. And while I love Clarice and was annoyed that she just went off with Hannibal, it was kind of a twisted, neat wrap-up. Sort of like a bizarre "Romeo & Juliet": a wonderful play that you love. Sure, the main characters in the play die, but it's great nonetheless and the tragedy kinda adds a certain spice to it. The "Hannibal" novel at least gave a wrap-up, albeit a bitter and somewhat odd one, although I CAN see Hannibal brainwashing Clarice into cannibalism. It's not out of the realm of impossibility.

What I didn't like about the movie version was that it dragged on and on and on... and when they're handcuffed together and Hannibal chops off his own hand ... well, I thought that was a bit over-the-top (though I did briefly wonder where the hand went ... did he eat it?? :D). The ending had no resolution, which left it open for another sequel, I suppose. But I prefer a somewhat sad ending to no ending at all. And what happened to that guy who got lobotimized was horrible. I know, I know, Hannibal isn't going to track down only "bad guys", but in "Silence" he at least got that creep Chilton, who you couldn't really feel any pity for. But in "Hannibal", it was a bit over the top. People actually walked out. Part of the scene's twistedness in the book was that Clarice was in on all of this, and by changing her character so much it really wasn't the same. While both book and movie were off, I prefer the former to the latter, which I really abhor. *END SPOILERS*

Anyway, Greg, like you, just my opinions :) Funny how two people can think so differently on the same topic. Anyway.

GREG'S CANNIBAL DINNER WITH BIN LADEN< And as an added bonus, you can use his turban as a napkin!! Awright!

SPACEBABIE< Krispy Kremes? Ooooooooh, Krispy Kreeeemes ... uhhhhhhhh *drools in an apt impression of Homer Simpson* Oooooh, dooooouuughnut... they have awesome Krispy Kremes in Penn Station, along with the BEST pizza. Anyone here ever have a real New York pizza? Nothin, but NOTHIN beats a pizza fresh out of Brooklyn. With mushrooms and tomatoes and ... *goes off on wild rant*

<<My Great Aunt Marie and my Great Unlce Duncan who is from Scotland((I guess you can say I have a pretty diverse family)). >> Really? Hmm ... do Great Uncle Duncan and Great Aunt Marie have any interesting stories about ancient stone statues back home?

My congrats to them both :)

METALDEMON< Thanks for clearing that stuff up for me. There are so many different scales on the political spectrum, they're like little religions themselves.

*growls at the ceiling* Okay, don't get me wrong, folks, but the worst thing about college is the girl living above you who has to have her boyfriend over at all hours of the day and night. It sounds like they're moving furniture up there, coupled with a loud documentary from the Discovery Channel on the mating rituals of some really vocal monkey. Christ on a cracker...

*hopes to get some French studying done and sleep ... and contemplating storming upstairs and hosing these people off*

Night, peeps.

Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Sunday, September 23, 2001 10:46:52 PM
IP: pc169-207.drew.edu

Jan< Thanky
Josh< Yep I am and darn proud of it. *giggles* I took me too long to get thought middle school to say I'm not pround of it.
Gside< Dunno. I'm probly not. But I can only with.
Courtney
Sunday, September 23, 2001 08:33:08 PM
IP: 66.73.12.84

Hey, all! :)

Okay, I need advice on how to tell your parents something that will probably make them not-so-happy with you... hm. ;) Any ideas? :)

The Taliban are getting to be darn hilarious..."Oh, you know what, America? Now we can't find bin Laden any more...he might not be in our country, so pleeeease don't attack the hell out of us." Can't find bin Laden??? YEAH RIGHT!!! ;)

Slow Mail> Well, here I mailed someone very special a birthday gift early this past Wednesday to make sure that it would get there on time...and it made it most of the way across the country to him and arrived on Saturday. I have no idea how that happened...it got there faster than it used to take normally! :) **sighs** Oh, well...he got his gift plenty early, at least. ;)

SJ> Hm...I'll take your challenge, but you can keep the peroxide...I sorta like my hair the way it is. ;) But I'm gonna take a guess here, and say, judging by all the "Whoooos" goin' on...Ric Flair? :)

Speaking of Ric Flair, when I stayed at my late grandmother's house one summer, I introduced her to wrestling...and I think she sorta "liked" Ric Flair. ;)

Could someone give me an idea what Jon Stewart's monologue was like the other night, or if there's text of it out there somewhere? I'd really like to know what he said.

Josh> <<What does that have to do with history!?>> Hm...you know, that's a very good question. But I'll gladly take writing a paper about true love over a Physics exam any day. ;) <<You can't if we decide women can't drive anymore!>> Grrr!!! **chuckles and whaps him with a pillow again** :)

Coyote> **huggles** :)
Ravyn
Sunday, September 23, 2001 07:37:23 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

One more thing.

At work today, a co-worker and myself were discussing the current war on terrorism, and what we would do if we were President.

One tidbit I mentioned was that my Secretary of Defense would be a cannibal. Put a little fear into the hearts of terrorists. Bin Laden would be his dinner once we caught him. I mean any country or group that attacks the United Staes is stupid, but if it was known that a psychotic cannibal was the Secretary of Defense and would be allowed to eat them, that would hopefully scare the crap out of them.

Speaking of cannibalism...

Carolyn> Personally I prefered the movie "Hannibal" to the novel. The book was a masterpiece but I really hated the ending. It just didn't seem like something Clarice would do. I could see Dr. Lecter doing that, but not Clarice. It felt insanely out of character for me. I thought the movie had a much better ending that was true to the characters. This is just my opinion though.
Greg Bishansky
Sunday, September 23, 2001 05:49:16 PM
IP: dialin-1353-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Demoness> You've already seen Mab in TGS. One varient on the name Mab is Maeve. So, you've seen her as Madoc's second-in-command and the queen of the Unseelie Court.

In TGS, Duval is not Percival, he's Lancelot. It was a decision we made before Greg revealed who he intended Duval to be. Too late to change, but I'd rather look on this as an oppurtunity rather than a mistake.

SPACEBABIE> Well, I consider myself to be pretty damn evil. As for whether I'll change party affiliations. I'm not sure as of yet. If i ever become rich... and I'd like to, sure I would. I'm extrememly greedy after all. I'm also anti-gun control laws, pro-Death Penalty and anti-bi government. But I'm also pro-choice, pro-euthanasia, some what pro-environment (to a far less degree than a standard than most others. I wouldn't call myself a tree-hugger at all), pro-Gay Rights, pro-feminism, in favor of legalizing marijuana, an Atheist and I like to watch porn ;)

What's a guy to do? Is there a political party that agrees with me on all these things? Or must I form my own?
Greg Bishansky
Sunday, September 23, 2001 05:33:53 PM
IP: dialin-1353-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

Demoness & others - please be patient with the TGS staff. There no planned Timedancer spoilers at this present time. TGS does not follow Greg Weisman 100% of the time.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, September 23, 2001 05:29:00 PM
IP: max1-36.cwy.cei.net

Spacebabie> Another one! Wow...thats 3 Floridians close to home I've met here.

TGS> I have a question about Season 4. Will it contain the newer information that we have learned from Greg at "Ask Greg" such as Mab, the Space-Spawn, etc etc.

I can see where the Mab is Oberon's mother conflicting with what is already written. But would you still use her in the series?

And what about Percival being Duval for the Illuminati? I've read in the TGS that Duval is called different and I dont know if his past has been explained in previous episodes. Do you think its possible to fit this new information with what is already written?
Demoness
Florida, USA
Sunday, September 23, 2001 05:18:55 PM
IP: ubr-35.47.62.melbourne.cfl.rr.com

Well I'm back!!! Let me give you all a recap.

Thursday>>>>Watched part of King Lear in my class then went home. Fixed up the cat room, fresh litter, big ass dish of food and a big ass dish of water. Waited for my brother to return from school and my mom to get off work, Dad had an absessed tooth and recieved a prescription for Perkidan. Rushed to the airport,((Yes Security has been hiked up)) Then waited for almost 3 hours, I took a snooze. As we boarded the plane we all grabbed a Delta snack pack. Since the the plane was late we all got a free movie, Bridget Jones's Diary. I decided to finish up my homwork instead. The snack pack contained: a small chicken sandwich, potatoe salad, a small bottle of water, crackers, gouda cheese, and a cookie. My mom and I both had a rum and coke, and GET THIS I wasn't Carded!. After we landed in Dallas we rented an Intrepid and drove nearly two hours to Waco, I must admit Dallas is beautiful at night. Upon arriving at Waco we all were hungry so looked for a place to get a quick bite. We ended up at Crickets wich is a hangout for Baylor University students, Did I mention Waco is a college town? We recieved directions to my grandparents house and arrived, I unpacked my nightgown, slippers and toothbrush and got ready for bed, I slept in my Nana's computer room wich had a fold out love sofa,bed.

Friday, Woke up to the sound of rain. Had breakfast of coffee and Krispy Kremes, Nearly got shocked at seeing my uncle with gray hair. He is only ten years older than me, y other uncle is only four years younger than him. Got dressed, I petted my grandparents pure bred Shelties, They are beautiful dogs, Then used Nana's computer. Hers is faster than mine! I even found the TGS comment room, but didnt post cause I went to the Richland Mall. My brother called it a podunk mall, wich is because comparing it to the Florida Mall is like comparing Disneyland to Disney World. You can fit one inside the other and still have room left over. Bought two pairs of beautiful hair chopsticks and pir of those sneaker/skates....Everytime I prwess the button I feel like Inspector Gadget, go go Gadget Skates!. Upon returning ro my Granparents home we found my other uncle, my aunt, my six year old cousin, and Great Aunt from Colorado had arived. My Aunt is originaly from Toronto and no she dosn't say Aboot, she has sort of a southern accent, my guess from living in Georgia, not from trying to cover up the Aboot. My cousin is so adorable. she takes gymnastics and inpressed me with her tricks, we also played a few games. Around four we went to he Salvation army church for the wedding rehearsal. That was quick, then out to dinner at a place called On The Border, I ordered the shrimp Fajitas.After dinner we went back home and got ready for bed.

Saturday:Woke up had more doughnuts for breakfast, got dressed, chilled out with my realatives, even more show up including Great Aunt Jewel, Great Uncle Jack, My mom's cousin Thelma and her little boy Harvey, My Great Aunt Marie and my Great Unlce Duncan who is from Scotland((I guess you can say I have a pretty diverse family)). Had lunch at Whataburger, My mom and uncle kept insisting its the best, but come on the meat is fried and good burgers are suposed to be grilled. Then we went home anc changed into our nice outfits for my grandparents 50th anniversary/renewel of vows. I was the person handing out programs and yes my name was on the back of the program. My dad and my brother lit candles, Mu uncles, Aunt and mom were the groomsmen and bridesmaids and my cousin was the flowergirl. The wedding was beautiful, then we went to the reception hall and had eats, wih consisted of sandwiches, cocktail wieners, raw veggies and dip, cheeses, nuts, mints, citrus punch and cake, two kinds: Wedding and carrot, After eating my grandparents opened their gits, the last one was a DVD player, after giftswe returned to the chapel for pictures and I caught the bouquet!...Well I ws the only one trying to catch it, but still, We returned to the house and started to pack. Poured my self a soda and watched the NBC preview thing, Then I got ready to go to bed cause we had to wak up at 2 in the morning, Gave my relatives a big hug, they were watching the Miss America pagent and whenever one of the contestants mention their state little Kelsie would point to it on her map. Tried to get to sleep but I felt a cold aprroaching.

Sunda: Woke up, got dressed, carried the luggage to the car, drove to Dallas, Returne the car to Trhifty, caught a shuttle back to the ariport, and went to our gate, I went toe the ladies room and they had a coin machine that held medicine, found some Sudafed. Returned to the gate, did some reading, ate some Cinnaminies when the BK opened and some milk. Finaly we boarded the plane, Grabbed a brakfast snack pack and found our seats. When we were in the air I asked for some coffe, the breakfast pack contained, a bagel, cream cheese, jelly, yougurt,bannana and Orange juice, I ate my brakfast and took a snooze, woke up to my ears being in pain, so I chewed some more gum, that didn't help much. Got off the plain, grabbed our luggage and returned home, Upon arriving I went immediatly to my room and said hello to my cats, then crashed onto my bed. Woke up and posted here.

Replies
Josh>>>Happy belated birthday and sorry you have to deal with Hippy morons.

Tim P>>>Bravo I love that song.

Lain>>Uh, My Aunt didn't have any complains about Bush.

Jannie>> Anna's 21??? Oh boy, the parrot, are you afraid of birds?

GXB>>>Bravo, Good speech, are youthinking of coming over to the dark side.

Raven>>On Love? Ahhhh.

Aaron>>>I'm gonna add your name to my pager.

Demoness>>>greetings fellow Floridian, your in Melbourn? I'm in O-town.

SJ>>>Chew bubble gum and kicks ass--Dude I so love that quote, and I thought i was the only one who enjoyed that movie.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl
Sunday, September 23, 2001 05:04:29 PM
IP: proxy.lga.netsetter.com

Hmmm... I really need to proof read my posts. I must have said "how it works" a dozen times. gah! I hate to be repititious.

ah well... still groggy cuz I just got up. food and caffine will help. >^,,^<
Mooncat
Sunday, September 23, 2001 03:02:33 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Carolynn -- hi, yes I did read through the Gargoyles Saga stories. That's why I was interested in the behind the scenes stuff. How it got organized, what work goes into putting together an "episode" kind of thing. How it works. The (non-fiction) stories behind the stories.

I guess it's kind of weird, but I've always been interested in Fandom as it's own topic, and how it works. The TGS is a really remarkable piece of Fandom. I love finding out how things like this get started, and how they work.

Mooncat
>^,,^<

"Curiousity killed the cat, but Satisfaction brought her back."

Mooncat
Sunday, September 23, 2001 02:59:25 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Carolynn> <<Isn't than an oxymoron?>>
Not by any means. If you go to the capitalist web-site, you can read that captialism strays far from religion as possible; in fact, it even says that religion and socialism go hand-in-hand.
Yeah, communism is a form of socialism--I stress " a form." I don't particularly like it since it gives the state ALL control, and other reasons. Some is good, a lot is bad. I won't support it.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Sunday, September 23, 2001 02:00:20 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Imzadi - <Why bother posting if no one cares?> In hopes of reaching the one person who should be interested.

I posted a logical mathematical equation and no peson noticed. Hahahaha.

Imzadi - You're right, no person hardly keeps up with manuals. Why was MS checking out that city, though? I have a quick answer to that problem: people in Seatle charge a special $.01 sales tax only applied to MS employees.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, September 23, 2001 01:43:19 PM
IP: max1-58.cwy.cei.net

Has anyone thought of doing a timedancer Dr Who crossover episode? I was a Dr Who fan long before gargoyles came around. and i cant help but see the many ways that Dr Who
seems a lot like what brooklyn goes through. take teh TARDIS for example it isnt fully under teh doctors control
and normmaly takes him where he needs to be not where he wants to go. and he also tends to pick up stange travelling companions along the way as well (although brooklyn doesnt do that as often)

Bill Schaub - [talon@hancock.k12.mo.us]
Sunday, September 23, 2001 12:35:51 PM
IP: 209.83.137.173

CHRISTINE< Saw Quills and LOVED it. *spoilers* But the ending? I can't see it happening any other way, but nevertheless I was really upset. The real Marquis de Sade was a rapist and a masochist, but you still feel awful for him and Winslet in this movie ... and Joaquin, too. I was yelling at the screen, telling him to get over his inadequete feelings and just put moves on her, already :) Wonderful movie, but hard to watch. Sort of like trying to sit through Saving Private Ryan's first twenty minutes *shudder* Was that ever tough... supposedly in real life, Joaquin's character was a deformed vertically-challenged guy (is there a politically correct term for that? It's a mouthful).

Of course, I could get into the wonders of "Fight Club", but I think everyone here's seen this movie :) A friend of mine who's a 23 year-old male hasn't seen it, and when he told me I almost went crazy. It's a *ahem* dick flick! How could you not see it??

JAN< There was an article in the Bergen Record today, explaining why America is so hated. According to the article, we're so rich and the extremists are jealous. Bizarre. If anyone else in the New York area is interested, it's in the Opinions section, page 8 or so. And I have to admit, I'm tired of it being in the newspapers. All I've read lately are the funnies and Dear Abby because everything else is so depressing.

JOSH< *clapping to the Windows rant* Amen. There's another great monopoly going on in America. It's called the campus bookstore. The only place where you can buy your books, and it'll only cost you $600 a pop. Whee!

This is a warning, folks: don't ever take a Philosophy class. Before I transferred out, we spent three classes doing nothing but discussing the possibility that we aren't real, but virtual projections of a great computer (obviously the makers of "The Matrix" took Philosophy). Which would be a cool class, if the teacher didn't pause every three words and stare off into space and go, "What was I talking about again?" Not a good sign, folks...

METALDEMON< <<Gunjack> Curses! I can never find a Christian Socialist to talk with. I think I'm in a "socialist minority" since most are atheist. *Shrugs* oh well. >>
Isn't than an oxymoron? I didn't think you COULD be socialist and have a religion. Unless I'm just thinking about commies, who are a type of socialist. *sigh* It helps to pay attention in 12th grade European History ;)

MOONCAT< <<All I wanted to know was the behind the scenes low down on the Gargoyles Saga... eh. >>
There's a link here to the stories. You really have to read them, cuz a LOT has gone in over three seasons that's impossible to record in one sitting without blowing up the
room.

My sisters are going crazy. They are officially counting down to the November 16th release of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone". And guess who gets to chaperone? Not that I mind, since I love the books to death, but I always get nervous when a wonderful book gets made into a movie. The only time I think that really succeeded was with Fight Club and the Green Mile and the Shawshank Redemption. But ever see Hannibal? *shudder*

The good thing is, now they're stuck on Harry Potter and no more Pokemon and Britney Spears. I hear a lot of extremists are freaking out though over the Harry Potter books because they utilize magic and that's supposedly wrong (though there are plenty of miracles and magic feats in the Bible) . Can't understand that, really, though I doubt I'd read my kid Book Four, the Goblet of Fire. If anyone's ever gotten to the last final chapters, you'll understand what I mean: creepy!

DEMONESS< Season Four coming soon, hon.

It's my sister's 14th birthday today, so I'm helping set up. Gotta jet.
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Sunday, September 23, 2001 12:10:28 PM
IP: 165.newark-41-42rs.nj.dial-access.att.net

The Musketeer> Unfortunaltey, I was not dragged to see the movie, so I can't say I was forced to see it; rather I wanted to see it...and was VERY displeased. I knew they weren't going to get the plot right, so I went to see it purely for the fight scenes, which sucked!
Come on, did they even act...anybody. Did you notice that when they were breaking the musketeer out of jail and made their escape in the slow-moving carriage the cardinal's men just plain stopped trying with the carriage three feet in fron of them.
And didn't the main in black kill D'artagnan when he met him at the bridge. Nothing was stopping him. They were ten feet apart with nothing seperating them! That explosion did nothing to the bridge that could have easily been crossed! IDIOCY!
Anyways, I hated the peice of s*#t. See it to laugh at it.
Later.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Sunday, September 23, 2001 12:00:23 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

TGS> Well I finished Season 3 and I'm wondering...Is that it? What happened to Vlad Tepes and his vampires? Who were those shooters that shot Brooklyn and why? Will Season 3 ever be continued?
Demoness
Florida, USA
Sunday, September 23, 2001 11:18:25 AM
IP: ubr-35.47.62.melbourne.cfl.rr.com

Crzy > what Josh said about cleavage ... if you think you've got none, there's no hope (other than surgical alternatives) for folks like me ; ) Glad you had a great evening, and better tighten Alan's leash! And to think this is the same guy who got all blushy and embarrassed when we were all trying to see what MacBeth had under his tunic besides those remarkable legs! <g>

Jan > I can surely sympathize ... funny how they never tell you about those parts of the job until it's too late, huh? To think I went to college for 5 years so I could clean drunk-puke off a urinal ... isn't it just loverly?

Josh > yep, Canmore and Vogel are both much too old for conventional prom-going.

lain > what's wrong with prefering Mr. Bean to Capt. Kirk? Not that I'd trust Bean with a starship, mind you ...

Movie stuff > rented "Quills" last night, and what a fantastic movie! Funny and dark and disturbing and brilliant all rolled into one tidy, well-written, well-acted package! Ah, for the good old days of psychiatric care, when you could have a phrenology model on your desk, rely on opiates for medications, strap-and-dunk hydrotherapy ... all it was missing was the icepick through the eyesocket form of lobotomy, though I think that came a bit later on the timeline. And the actors -- wow, when I saw Joaquin Phoenix in "Gladiator," I thought there was just something too unnaturally bizarre about his features, that he couldn't really be handsome. But in "Quills"? Yum! Quick summary -- the Marquis de Sade is locked in the asylum, but continues smuggling out his best-selling smut with the help of a young laundress played by Kate Winslet. The emperor pitches a fit and demands it stop, sending in a strict doctor (Michael Caine) to supervise the abbot (Joaquin) in charge. They want the Marquis to stop writing, but he can't. And maybe (some would say definitely) it's my own attitude regarding the matter, but it's when they start trying to control him and censor and restrict him that things really take a dark and awful turn. If they'd let him alone to do his thing, nobody would have gotten hurt. That, at least, is the message that I got from it. YMMV, as they say.

In other movie musings, has anyone else seen The Musketeer? I found it pretty to look at, but the plot was rushed and didn't seem to know where it was going, the characters were drab (except Tim Roth as a most amusing villain), and the fight scenes went way beyond all credibility, even to a cinematic-style gamer. That business on the ropes and the tower, puh-leeze. Tim, as is his usual wont, grumbled continuously about the glaring historical and military innacuracies. Very much more an "inspired by" than a "based on," though one thing remained the same -- D'Artagnan is a total Mary Sue. If they'd said one more time, in the actual dialogue, what a great fighter he was, I would have screamed. Becca's report? "I liked the fights and the explosions." Atta girl!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, September 23, 2001 11:10:44 AM
IP: 20-203.075.popsite.net

Josh> <<You can't call the people who don't want to fight or the people who think its wrong "hypocrites" just because they think war is bad>> I didn't. I just said that I found it interesting... as in ironic. I agree with you; they have every right to protest. I also agree that not everyone is suited for the military and therefore should not enlist. That's why it's voluntary (for the current time and I hope that they don't have to call for a draft). However, if someone is drafted, I believe it's their civic duty/responsibility to oblige. If you enjoy the freedoms and all that our country has to offer, then there may come a time when you have to do some payback.
<> be grateful that you weren't... you could have been born in one of the starving and deprived countries. You get my point. ;)
I understand your desire to flee the country if there is a draft - my first instinct would be that for my son too - but in the end, I wouldn't allow him to do that (if I had any say in it) and would nervously see him be drafted.
"women not being allowed to drive as a trade-off": this joke is just for you ;)
Q: why do doctors slap a baby's butt right after they're born?
A: to knock the penises off of the smart ones
*giggles*

Lain> <<but im sure all those protests and the burning of US flags must mean SOMETHING isnt all rosy in pakistan, dont you think? >> I don't give a crap if things are rosey in Pakistan or not. If some of the citizens there want to support a mass murderer, then so be it... then there will be consequences.
<> war is not pretty and there are going to be innocent lives eliminated. Besides, everyone can call for the slaying of ALL Afghanistans but it's only words. The president and his staff have the final word in everything.... and I trust them to make the right decisions. We're all arm-chair soliders right now and none of us have the authority to do anything.
But to think that a war can be fought and no innocent lives taken is unrealistic. You moan for the innocent people of Afghanistan - right now my focus is on the innocent people killed on 9-11-01. My focus is also on the soliders that will be killed in action. I don't like the thought of anyone who is innocent being hurt in all of this, but I have my priorities straight. I want terrorism to be stopped (as much as possibly can be stopped) and innocents will be killed... on all sides. Once again, I have put my trust and faith in the President to do the job with the least amount of casualities as possible. I don't know if *how* this war is going to be fought. President Bush has already proven that he's not impulsive - otherwise we would have immediately bombed Afghanistan. But no, the people of Afghanistan are not on the top of my list of priorities. I feel bad for them, but I feel worse for the victims of the attack and for the Americans that will loose their lives in fighting the cowards who did this to us. That is where my focus is.

Gunjack> <<I'd just rather the butt be kicked intelligently. >> It will be. Like I said earlier, if it wasn't going to be, Bush would have sent in the troops immediately.
We're not going to know every step that is taken and planned. Even though the news people would like for us to think that they know _everything_ they're not going to. We have "top secret" stuff going on all the time that no one has any idea about. Military is trained to respond to commands without question. Even if they asked, they wouldn't be told until the last possible moment and when they don't have an opportunity to call home and tell someone who, what, where, and why.
Who has been calling for a carpet bombing? Us... average joe citizen... not the President. Who makes those decisions? not us. I don't know about you, but I haven't received any phone calls from the secretary of Defense asking for my input on how the war should be fought. ;)
But yeah, I have faith that the President will do the right thing and will attempt to protect as many innocents as possible (on both sides) and with as few battles as possible. It may not even come down to an all out war, they may go in with special teams and take out a few of the leaders of terrorism and it will be over with. We just don't know yet.
Jan
Sunday, September 23, 2001 09:26:44 AM
IP: modem18-109.mo-net.com

Goooooooooddd morning Afgahnistan!

No, wait, we're not quite there yet.

Anyone else noticed that the internet is slow? Wanna know why? I'll give you a hint: it starts with W.

That's right, windows. If it weren't for windows, none of this Nimda crap would have happened. Nor Code Red, nor any of these viruses that can slow the internet to a crawl and make life miserable for IT people and geeks everywhere.

And yet, more companies and more government agencies standardize on windows. Why? Because "Everyone uses it, therefore it must be the best."

Is that the biggest logical fallacy in the world or what!? Everyone should be standardizing on a UNIX of some sort based on PPC architecture. Why? Because its the most stable and the most powerful. We're basing our worldwide computing decisions on the marketing of "the blue man group". How wrong is that?

What's worse is that I honestly think that Microsoft is just a few years away from knocking on every ONE of your doors and demanding that you fork over $400 for the next version of Windows. Didn't know they could do that, did you? Well they can. Its all in the fine print of their license agreement that you "signed" by opening their software, installing it, or using it. Frankly it'd be cheaper in the long run if Microsoft just demanded everyone first born male child.

They're already doing it to governments. Some city in Virgina just coughed up a several hundred thousand dollars to M$ because The Company (as permitted by the license that you didn't read by signed anyway) decided they'd like to audit that city and see if they REALLY had all their licenses for Windows and/or Office. They couldn't find them all. And rather than search, they just coughed up the check. How many of you keep all your original manuals, licenses, etc? Not most, I'm sure of that.

How much of this garbage will you put up with from them? The security holes, the forced upgrades, the decreased compatibility (did you know that Windows XP won't allow you to encode MP3's?). Windows isn't cheap, and neither are any of microsoft's other products. You'll keep paying through the nose for them, when there are far cheaper alternatives out there. Hell, Linux is FREE!

Also, I'd like to point out that there are anti-virus companies that purposely create new viruses to keep themselves in business. My favorite part of these viruses is purposely downloading the files and opening them up. Why? Because I CAN.

Alright, enough ranting.

I "worked" today, but other than the massive internet slowdown caused by Nimda, there were relatively few problems. As usual. Thank god I still get paid. And while I was getting paid, I did homework. God I love this job.

Later on, I went to Rocky in Oakland. That was fun. Jeez, I'm starting to become a regular again. Pretty soon I'll be shtupping cast members again. I'll just have to steel my nerves against the coming onslaught of slutdom. The girl I was drooling over last time...I got a better look at her this time. "Paper bag" applies here.

Oh, by the way: for everyone thing "I'm in college, I don't have to worry about a draft", my dad was the last student to keep his college defirment...and he's 48 now. So we're all f*cked. Now, if you were born without a penis...

On to replies!

Greg X: Well said, my friend. <<Their parents protested Vietnam, so they think they can protest this war>>: The problem is worse at Berkeley, where many students are "legacy". Their parents were the height and center of the hippy world, and they think they can remake the campus as it once was. The sad truth is that now there are people who don't really agree with them. There were no protests in FAVOR of Vietnam in the 60's and 70's. But now things have changed. People are angry at our enemies. We didn't pick this fight, it picked us. <<Those who protested that war and dodged the draft were in the right>>: That said, if there *IS* a draft, I'll be dodging it. <>: Why does that sound a lot like "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead!"

Winterwolf: Welcome back, buddy. Long time no see. I'm not counting those "dual" posts with Dreamie. <<I'm going to be moving soon>>: Are you moving to Seattle already? <<a Happy Belated Birthday to Josh>>: Danke. <>: Acutally, I no longer derive the same pleasure in other people's misery that I one did. Maybe I've gotten wiser or more mature (yeah right), I dunno. It just doesn't. Now, I certainly could have made my day better by filling someone else's with practical jokes, if that's what you mean. <<while you can't hear me sing it>>: It can't be any worse than me singing. <<Are you still posting modulus math problems>>: That explains a lot. Thanks. <>: No, you didn't, but apparently no one else picked up on it so only you and I wished him a happy bday. <<How far did you get>>: I've beaten it many times (I'm a science man), but this game stopped being interesting when my civilization reached 100 million citizens in 19something or other. <<Two more weeks before I'm on the road>>: Ugh, driving!?

Courtney: <<all ya have ta do is remember dates easy as pie>>: I'd have to agree with that statement. Memorizing minutae was always one of my strong points. Sadly, my best friend has a short-term memory disorder and barely passed history. <<Hippies? Their coolies>>: Are you a high school student?

Christine: <<uninterrupted night of sleep>>: That sounds like fun! <<almost-prom-night story>>: But they're both 20 something. How can they have a prom night!? <<no, not Oberon>>: One of my fondest memories from G2k1: "Oberon is a big blue jerk".

Jan: <<the people who protest against war are the same ones using that freedom to protest that was gained by fighting wars>>: They have every right to do that, even if they are wrong. Freedom of speech is one of the very purposes of the existence of this country. There's a reason its the *FIRST* Amendment. You can't call the people who don't want to fight or the people who think its wrong "hypocrites" just because they think war is bad. Just because war helped them get that right doesn't mean they have to like it. Hell, taxes are what allow me to drive from point A to point B, and I love driving, but I still hate taxes. <<We continue to have these rights by the blood of brave men and women who were willing to fight to keep our freedoms>>: But does that mean that ALL of us have to be willing to fight? <<Josh is a big bad bully>>: bad, perhaps. Bully, sometimes. <>: I watch a lot of History Channel too. I always was a bit of a war buff...this isn't helping. <<if he had killed the guy, he would have gotten off>>: Remind me again why I live here? <<THIS MAY AFFECT YOUR SERVICE>>: Or it already has... <<you can purchase a good anti-virus software package for less than that>>: No, you can't. A good anti-virus software package will run exactly the same price. <<THE TIME FOR EVERYONE TO GET ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE HAS COME>>: blah blah blah. <<we
recommend you monitor the web site mentioned above>>: So that the site can get hits and generate income! Gee, conflict of interest much?! <<wonders what Ravyn is going to do with her bag of anabolic steroids>>: Turning into either the Incredible Hulk or a German Olympic Swimmer. <<people have put aside their political affliation and come together as one>>: Yeah. As one...GROUP OF REPUBLICANS! <<ewwww, JOSH>>: Oops, sorry about that.

Crzy: <>: Explains a lot. <<September 16th I turned 31>>: Happy bday. <<is there any way to stop this birthday thing?>>: There is, but I don't think your family would like it very much. <<A few more years and I will look like Rogue (minus the cleavage)>>: Um...::checks picture archive from G2k1::...if you don't think you have cleavage, I'd be scared to see a woman that you think DOES have cleavage. <>: Instead of the other way around? <>: Don't do anything rash... <>: I'm sure some mail was irrevocably lost.

Lain: <<the english language is his personal minefield>>: LOL great image there. <<he didnt once mention the word "canada.">>: Gee, bitter much? <<are you deliberately trying to snub us>>: Probably. <<he has 50 brothers and sisters?>>: Imagine the carpooling. <<is bin laden left handed>>: "left" is derived from the latin for "sinister". <<did you know that the CIA spent more money supporting bin laden and his operation than theyve spent on anything else in history>>: I doubt it was more than they spent on intelligence for Russia, or Cuba, or the entire Nicaragua operation. <<that plane shot down in afganistan was a uav>>: Reconnaissance by us? Or by you? <<the green party, the marajuana party and the rinoceros party>>: Ooh tell them about the CRAP party!!

Entity: <<Were there ever any liberals in here>>: Probably. <<did anyone watch The Daily Show the night before last?>>: I am SO sorry I missed that. <<why do we need God to bless us>>: "We" don't. "Religious people" do.

Ravyn: <<My next paper for one of my history classes has to be about... LOVE>>: What does that have to do with history!? <<Don't make me come over there>>: You can't if we decide women can't drive anymore! ;-) <<Ravyn, the Tenth Wonder of the World>>: That's a big woman... <<Each of us, then, is a 'matching half' of a human whole, because each of us was sliced like a flatfish, two out of one, and each of us is always seeking the half that matches him.>>: Touching words...I don't believe one letter of them.

Patrick: <<they've probably got some catching up to do>>: What a bunch of f*cking slackers. Like its not enough that a stamp costs $0.34. They take off every other DAY and are only open when everyone is at work/school. Bastards. <<not all of the world's problems can be cured by hugging a tree>>: What about the Maple Syrup shortage?

Sevarius: <<Where Care Bears all dance around and give you a hug when you feel down>>: I was all ready to move to fantasy land...till you said that. <<seems to me as if these people are the same annoying rich kids, each with a trust fund fueled by the money that daddy made, who were out protesting the World Trade Summit>>: I think the people who were protesting the WTO meeting had a better reason than this bullshit. <<NOT because anyone wants to "keep you down", but rather because you just annoy the hell out of people>>: Therefore, we try to shut them up so they'll stop being obnoxious, which they interpret as "keeping them down". <<Greg Weisman, my lawsuit is pending!>>: Good words for a garg CR. <<we Republicans kick ass and take names later>>: Unless its Reagan, who forgot to take names. <<you pagan-loving, atheistic, morally-bankrupt liberal bastards can start hugging trees and criminals again>>: Hey now. I'm atheist and morally bankrupt...and I'm still a republican. <<when I advocate genocide, certain people get mad at me>>: Everyone's got a f*cking cause these days. <>: Well f*CK you! Conscription is the biggest BS ever. Why should I be forced to fight just because I'm over 18 and happened to be born here?! I could have been born ANYWHERE else. <<conscientious observer>>: Objector, jackass. And it was HARD to get conscientious objector status. REALLY hard. <>: So, let me see if I've got this straight: my choices are either go to war for a country I like and probably get killed, or go to jail. I DON'T THINK SO. <<You also forgot to mention your bad grammar>>: ::high fives:: Tag team! <<how he didn't know oral was really sex>>: Any teenager will agree with him. <<we demand they respect our aw-thor-it-tie>>: Maybe we should all put on reflective shades and beat people with our nightsticks. <<we love Mr. Bean>>: WE do not! <<a quote from one of my favorite Keith David films>>: That's from Duke Nukem.

Hyperion: <<we don;t really have a military>>: I don't know what dream world you're living in, but our "lack of" military costs us several billion a year. Not to mention the couple hundred F-22's we just ordered. <<people dont' attack Macs only becuse there is no point>>: Fine so there's no point. That means that WE DON"T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE STUPID VIRUSES AND YOU DO. And what benefit do you get from all this? Oh yes, the benefit of paying $400 for an operating system that's a poor knock-off of my $100 one.

DPH: <<Absolutely no person will care about the following>>: Then why are you posting it?

Moochie: <<More problems have been solved with violence then with any other method in history>>: So true. <<To my understanding, we could have (and SHOULD have) WON that war if we'd fought it right>>: Then you obviously understand very little. Despite our technological superiority, we were fighting "for" a people that didn't want us there, who were using civilians against us in an environment we couldn't control. <<What the heck is it?>>: "Can I request that no one post on that until a moderator has given the go-ahead". Does that sound familiar? Cuz its vaguely what came out of YOUR mouth. That's what the comment is referring to. You trying to be an admin. <<Well, not most of us, at least>>: I'm sure any of us would if asked nicely.

Metaldemon: <<being a gay socialist is NOT a good thing to be in this room>>: Oh, we're very tolerant of gays. Its the socialists that bug us...

Gside: <>: I've heard it. <<Though there is chalk grafiti on my dorm saying N(peace sign) WAR>>: Ah, where's a garden hose when I need one. <<Hey>>: Now that actually wasn't meant to be an insult, but good catch anyway. <<You're psychic>>: Impressive, isn't it?

Okay folks its 330AM. I need to sleep before my shift tomorrow.

Mounting is used for three things: climbing on a horse, linking in a hard disk unit in data systems, and, well, sex.
-Christa Keil

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, September 23, 2001 06:29:20 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-38.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

you know, i think i will have a fit if anyone ever mentions killing the innocent people of afganistan again.

the taliban, however... well.. thats a different story..
lain
Sunday, September 23, 2001 03:51:42 AM
IP: ac8b0e3b.ipt.aol.com

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, September 23, 2001 03:30:25 AM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

Imzadi> <<if I was a programmer or electrical engineer>>: All me, baby.
<>: I suggest you look up the states as sung by Wakko. It includes all the capitols, and is sung to Turkey in the Straw.
<<Kinky>>: Well, the girl was only a simile, and she had a skinned knee.
<<I'm sure there's been 50 here>>: True, but these two were the only ones reported in the Targum and chalked on the sidewalk. Though there is chalk grafiti on my dorm saying N(peace sign) WAR.
<<Yeah but you're a freak>>: Yes, yes I am.
<<here I was worried you wouldn't catch that insult>>: Hey.
<<Isn't it though?>>: True. Though since I'll probably be moving a bit away from hippie music, you might start downloading more.

Winterwolf> <<I'm going to be moving soon>>: My brother was supposed to be moving this weekend (to his new house in Philly), and I didn't get drafted. I'm happy. Good luck, though.
<<since Gside commented on Istanbul (Not Constantinople) I feel compelled to sing the song>>: Fear my powers of compulsion.

Courtney> <>: You're psychic?

Lain> <<yikes.. poor mother>>: With that number, I doubt there was just one.

Metaldemon> <>: I blame that whole opiate of teh people thing.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, September 23, 2001 03:30:07 AM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

Gunjack> Curses! I can never find a Christian Socialist to talk with. I think I'm in a "socialist minority" since most are atheist. *Shrugs* oh well.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Sunday, September 23, 2001 02:10:55 AM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

entity - Well, I'm fairly new here. I just started lurking to get some info on TGS... not a lot of of discussion of that I can find. But for what it's worth, I'm not entirely comfortable here either, with all the ends justifying the means vibe... but while I'm a republican, I'm also a bohemian pagan chick who writes, smutty Gargoyles fic. *^_~*

All I wanted to know was the behind the scenes low down on the Gargoyles Saga... eh.

Well, back to writing for me. I only really get stuff done during the weekends for some reason, so I got to make the best of the little free time I get.

ja ne
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Sunday, September 23, 2001 02:07:23 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Metaldemon - Straight Christian Conservative Imperial Capitalist. Don't worry, we don't bite. Well, not most of us, at least... ; )
Gunjack "Lucifer" Valentine
Sunday, September 23, 2001 01:33:06 AM
IP: 192.133.129.4

oops, sorry about the double-post.
metaldemon
Sunday, September 23, 2001 01:01:01 AM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

entity: <<Wow, this place has turned into a Republican meeting house. Were there ever any liberals in here?>>
If it makes you feel better, I'm a gay socialist with long hair and a beard. Yes, a tree-hugging, give to the poor, elderly, and under privaleged, mexican-american Soicalist. I don't agree with every single Scoialist issue, but enough to classify myself as one. However, I do have to say that I do support military action only to catch the men responsible for this, not full-out war. I do believe in justice, not revenge, but justice nonetheless.
I guess being a gay socialist is NOT a good thing to be in this room, judging from the posts I have read. Oh, well:)

metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Sunday, September 23, 2001 12:59:45 AM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

I really don't wanna post. But I owe SJ a few...

SJ><<Sometimes it takes BRUTAL VIOLENCE to make sure the asshole never messes with you ever again.>> "More problems have been solved with violence then with any other method in history." -Robert Hienlen, "Starship Troopers" <<...at least the hippies had a potentially valid point in that we shouldn't have been in Vietnam...>> I'd disagree with you there. To my understanding, we could have (and SHOULD have) WON that war if we'd fought it right. <<In this case, we SHOULD be engaging in military action...>> ...And I think we need to kick some butt this time, too. I'd just rather the butt be kicked intelligently. <<But you're wrong, Bill Maher is just a prick, who's way too good at inserting his foot into his mouth but not as adept at taking it out again.>> I've never even seen this show, but it sounds to me like he made an excellent semantic point. Call it "anti-american" if you want, but trading someone's life for a high-value target does demonstrate real brass.

I tried to email you some time last week, but apparently you've changed addresses. I was curious about this "Kiaoto Jr" thing you mentioned me exhibiting. What the heck is it?
Oh, and the tagline is all for you.
Gunjack "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge Exposed Regularly" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Sunday, September 23, 2001 12:54:31 AM
IP: 192.133.129.4

**Dreamie and Winterwolf enter to claim a Top Ten Spot**

Top ten!! Number 10!! ^_^

Love you all!

**Dreamie and Winterwolf scamper off**
Dreamie and Winterwolf
Sunday, September 23, 2001 12:20:31 AM
IP: pool-141-155-118-235.ny5030.east.verizon.net

Ninth!!!!!
Peter - [hybridone@ignmail.com]
Williams Lake, BC, Canada
Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:50:31 PM
IP: ts4-40.williams-lake.wlake.com

Opps! guess I mean 8th!

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:45:29 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

7 is a lucky number

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:44:25 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

I claim Top Ten space in the name of ... LOVE AND PEACE!! **does a cheap impression of Vash the Stampede**
Coyote the Bando
Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:37:14 PM
IP: 64.243.214.103

6th!
Who ever smelt it delt it. eheh..
Oracle
Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:17:23 PM
IP: mke-65-29-130-252.wi.rr.com

5th!
*sniffs the air* ewwww, JOSH! ;)
Jan
Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:11:46 PM
IP: modem18-109.mo-net.com

gah, crap. 4th
Josh
Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:08:33 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-236.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Third!

Josh
Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:08:15 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-236.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

3rd!
Tim
Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:08:11 PM
IP: wsc0072.wsc.edu

Second!
Galvatron
Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:05:06 PM
IP: 01-168.037.popsite.net

FIRST!!!
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:00:33 PM
IP: dialin-1047-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net