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I can't believe it. The highest debut on the Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 is one of the worst songs in the history of mankind! It's soooooooooo annoying!

Currently, I'm listening to a much better one, the Destiny's Child cover version of "Emotion". Okay, it's over now, so I'll get to the replies, unless I decide not to, because I'm high . . . ;)

~~~
Sevarius Jr.: {Well, Barry Bonds is one home run away from breaking the record.} Go Barry! {John Woo is doing a bunch of stuff with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise} I remember them! Hey, wait a minute, I remember them?! How old does that make me??????? {I wanna see more of that puppy, and Jolene Blalock's puppies.} Here's a way to see both at the same time: a transporter accident combines Porthos and T'Pol. What steps off of the transporter pad is a Vulcan who can't stand herself! {BWAH HA HA!!! New, fresh blood! Get the meat cleavers, boys and girls. Time for your hazing, fuzzy.} <Fur stands on end.> Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

Ravyn: {Barry Bonds *is* a prick. I hope they walk him all the rest of his at-bats.} Okay, 1) That probably wouldn't be very sporting, and 2) he already broke the record for most walks in a season. They'd just be giving him a more insurmountable record. Unless that's what you want! :)

Jim R.: {people would think I use Michael Jackson songs (and parodies) too much.} You can never have too much of anything. Michael Jackson rocks the world of millions of fans.

DPH: {welcome to the asslyu . . . the TGS CR.} Uh . . . um . . . <Backs away slowly.>

Fire Storm: {The puppy and Jolene Blalock's puppies together? Hmm... fur and flesh...} Furry fans would love this discussion! :)

Gside: {The Levee was a bar.} Thanks for pointing that out. I always took that lyric to mean an actual levee.

Imzadi: {Well, I don't want to disappoint my fans: Never.} Ack! {Two months ago it was "September". "Never" is starting to sound more and more reasonable...} Sounds a lot like me and the "Tyger Tails" series I write for *my* web site! {And leave the pop to the gay guys.} Or you could leave it to the guys with talent.

Stephen: {Then this person floored me by stating they were a publisher of erotica novella books, and they were wondering if I would be interested in submitting a story for publication!} Hey, way to go! Congratulations!
~~~

Until later, Start the Commotion!
Ch'Tah Tyger - [cwtyger@lionking.org]
Revelstoke, British Columbia, Canada
Saturday, October 6, 2001 02:55:17 PM
IP: 64.114.2.11

Metaldemon> *nod* I was first introduced to Existentialism my Senior year of high school. I read "The Plague," "The Stranger," and a third, short story I can't recall the name of. Despite its brevity, I actually think it was the most profound of the three. It was about a man who is given a prisoner to escort to a town to be executed. The man lets the prisoner choose his own fate, and the prisoner decides to go to the town. And the reaction of the man isn't approval, but disapproval.

Spacebabie> <<<To me they sound alternative, but look look like a boyband.>>> They do look rather freakish.

Josh> <<<At my bro's Bar Mitzvah, I was introduced to "Runaway".>>> You spoke the correct song. "Runaway" has got to be my favorite of Linkin Park's, if not of all time. <<<Obviously it isn't desireable to be so wishy-washy that everything every idiot says has an effect on your beliefs.>>> *whistles innocently* <<>> It's more a "movement," technically, but I think it falls into the category of religion to the same degree as agnosticism or, say, Confucionism. There is a lot to it, actually, in comparison to athiesm or agnosticism where the definition is about one sentence long. Existentialism is very comparable to Confucionism in my view.
Entity
Saturday, October 6, 2001 01:08:13 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

Hyperion> Thanks for watching it, but what you saw WAS compressed. Believe it or not, the original was 3 times that size. Any smaller I made it, the music quality would begin to degrade. I have thought to maybe re-import the MP3 as an even lower Kbps.

Josh> There's nothing wrong with MJ's pop music, people like variety, that's all.
Jim R.
Saturday, October 6, 2001 11:21:33 AM
IP: lwby-85ppp171.epix.net

Greetings all...yes, I still live.

Haven't been by in a while due to work hours, but I'm making a killing in overtime pay...which means I should have the funds I need to get my long-awaited car before the end of the month. What is good about this is my girlfriend's father has offered to help me look for a solid, mid-sized car which I can get from one of the many retirees here in Tampa/St.Pete. The kind they don't drive anymore, but it's been well maintained and will last for at least five more years.

Speaking of work, the Cash Gremilns hit me again...giving me a shortage of nearly $60.00 last monday. And I didn't learn about this until I got home, when my boss called me to ask if I'd recalled taking the money out, or if anyone else had been near my drawer. well the only two people that had been in my register that day were both managers...but i can't think of where the money could have gone to. Needless to say, my boss had to account for it, and it looked like I was going to lose my job. However, my boss was completely honest with me: "If you were a bad employee, you would be fired as of last night, but for now I'm going to take you out of Cash Handling duties and put you in Drive-Thru present and the grill."

So, for now I'm still working...hopefully I'll get back to my old position on front counter in a few weeks or so, but for now, I'm making burgers.

Now, the replies:

PATRICK - Happy Birthday, Elf...that's my new nickname for you. Hope you had a good one!

SJ - Well, DC sport teams may suck major monkey nuts except for the Captials, but I wonder how they're going to fair against the Lighting on the 23rd. I only mention this because I got three free tickets to that game at the Ice Palace here in Tampa...say! You up for a visit? We can bash the 'Bolts together. ^_^ Also, here's a scary thing linked to the return of 80's Cartoons... They've started selling Popples again! <shudder>

GREG-B - I agree with you on the names of the RiD Transformers...Gigatron sounds so much more evil than old Megs did. And I really don't care for a lot of the American names for the new show... Side Burn??? X-Brawn??? SKYBYTE??? What, am I the only one that liked the original names of the Car Bros.?

RAYVN - The next Chyna? Does that mean you're going to get Don to work out to be the next Triple-H? ^_^

NAIMGOLD - Sorry I didn't get the email I promised out to you yet...I'll have it sent shortly. ^_^'

GSIDE - <How long can you tread water...> Cosby oldies. They never fail to make me laugh.

CHRISTINE - Writing smut isn't a bad racket, I say. Why?

Well, recently I've been pushing the line, getting some new original erotica posted on an online archive recently...and the resulting feedback has been great so far (as many e-mails over the past two weeks as I've had readers). But the killer thing that came along is that one person read one of my stories - a short fantasy piece called "Tavern Rollin' with Tibs", featuring a saucy elf wench - and they e-mailed me with much praise for the piece.

Then this person floored me by stating they were a publisher of erotica novella books, and they were wondering if I would be interested in submitting a story for publication!

<deadpan-look> Oh, sure...love to.

<grins!> So, as I speak, the editor and I have been talking, and I'm going to expand a story I recently finished to fit their guidlines(they need a word-count of at least 32,000). I dunno how soon the story will see print if it's accepted, but for now I am damn exited! WooHOO! I've got a chance to be published!

Which is a good thing because I need to start hitting the Florida sci-fi/fantasy conventions to get my name out to the reading public...yes, can you tell I'm finally getting off my duff to get into the professional writing world? ^_^

Anyway, that's all from me for now. Maintain and Check Six, everyone...

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Saturday, October 6, 2001 10:05:19 AM
IP: 6535134hfc79.tampabay.rr.com

Nice of them to wait until 2 AM to turn the net back on... And now, the CR's doing that whole deform-sideways-into-jagged-scrawls-of-demon-scrip thing...

All hail Sabbach Tana.
Gunjack "Eloi" Valentine
Saturday, October 6, 2001 03:53:23 AM
IP: 192.133.129.4

Well, today, in my humble opinion, SUCKED.

First, fluids class. I handed in my not-quite-complete homework. Why wasn't it complete? Because I couldn't get to office hours yesterday to find out how to do the last problem (pesky midterms, always getting in the way of doing something USEFUL). So only 4 out of 5 problems done. I jotted some notes about the fifth, and I hope I'll get some partial credit for it and make my grade not suck any worse than it already does.

The lab I wrote: B. This is really embarassing, since my lab partner wrote the last one and "we" got an A+ (in fluids, the lab pairs take turns writing the report, followed by peer review, etc. and both partners get the same grade.). So that kinda blows. On the other hand, I get to put some of the blame on John because he didnt' catch the mistakes.

After a review for my midterm today, I took a break to catch a few more minutes of studying, armed with the knowledge of what was on the other section's midterm ;-)

Then the midterm...piece of cake! I was all paranoid that it would be SOOOO difficult, that there was no way I could possibly learn all the material that we'd be tested on. But I didn't have to! The midterm was just like the set of practice problems he gave us. I finished very quickly (we had 1 hour) and spent time writing little notes in the margins to my TA who will be grading the exams. I pity her. Maybe she needs some help...

Then home again to do the last math problem on my homework before turning it in.

And that was my day. All of this crap compounded by the fact that I found out that I shanked not one but TWO problems on my dynamics test (out of four). I'll be working on my otherwise religious holiday of Friday, because if I don' there's no way I'll be able to get everything done for next week.

Did homework most of my night, then talked on the phone for a while.

Replies.

Ch'Tah: Welcome. I'm the resident Mac Addict. Supposedly we have others, but they don't come around much. <<at the risk of sounding like a clueless newbie>>: Isn't that redundant? <>: Well, I don't want to disappoint my fans: Never. <<I'm Canadian, remember>>: Gah not another one!

The Wizard: <<Good luck on midterms, Josh>>: Thank you, I'll need it. Desperately.

Kyryn: <<Massive sinus headache and editing do not go together>>: Massive sinus headaches don't go with ANYTHING. <<That's what sharp fingernails and someone else's blood are for>>: mmmm...fingernails...chicks with nails rock. ;-) <<It is currently being worked on and should be up sometime in the next month or two>>: Two months ago it was "September". "Never" is starting to sound more and more reasonable...

Baldy: <<how can you say a howitzer isn't an everyday item>>: Maybe we're talking about different things. I'm thinking of the piece of artillery. <<you're a snob kid from ForniCalia>>: DAMN STRAIGHT! And you're just some jealous foreigner. <<that'd just make him the Fairy Godfather>>: I get it. <<Too much luggage is too impractical>>: You should have seen my family in Italy a few years ago. From then on, never more than one bag and a backpack. <<"Um... *thinks,* Actually..." *Claps hands* "Heads up, everyone, we haven't thought this through!">>: I knew I should have had a planning session before summoning demons.

Tim: <<people have been going to school to stay OUT of military service>>: Too bad that doesn't work anymore. Hasn't in years. <<Then we return "her" to Afghanistan to live as a woman under the Taliban>>: Cruel, sadistic...I like it!

Lynati: <<If Imzadi tries to tell you that the next season is never coming out>>: Then he is, of course, correct. <<just ignore him, he's afflcited with the "I am a dork" syndrome quite often>>: You're just jealous. <>: Sweet. <<Imzy: Point>>: Damn skippy.

Smut Pandering Bitch Queen of All Creation: <<all I write is smut>>: I'm sorry...is that a bad thing?

Green Baron: <>: Welcome to the republican side. <<Besides, their idea of a godo tiem is getting drunk and playing loud music>>: News flash: that is a party. <<When I get married, no alchohol at the wedding>>: Oh now THAT will be a fun party. <<Plus another vote against Janet Reno>>: Which is the really important thing. <<Just read the archives starting with August of 98 and skim for Attila>>: No thanks. I value my time. <<We're just from an older time and not perverted as much by the modern world>>: WHATEVER! <<How's that for philosophy>>: Not very funny, actually. <<Have some super-reinforced viagra>>: Cuz he's extra old. <>: Um...don't eunichs usually NOT have breast fixations? <<that pic of Duvall you e-mailed me had a virus in it.>>: Oops. <>: Freak. <<many were thoroughly insane>>: Just like Niamhgold! <<I'm a dork with my own female fan club, thanks to Christine>>: So am I, so says Jannie.

Sevarius Jr: <<that tool Todd McFarlane>>: Watch it...spawn rocks. <<Any thoughts from anyone else>>: Just to prove that you can make it far in life without kissing everyone's ass, he should break the damn record. <<Ben "I like to get drunk and party with my 'good friend' Matt Damon" Affleck will sign on to play Daredevil>: As DAREDEVIL!? WTF!? <<This makes me angry enough to feed turpentine to a kitten. Again.>>: LOL! You should meet my roommate. He hates cats too. <<They should stick to what they do best, which just happens to be dark and depressing and angry music>>: And leave the pop to the gay guys. <<Further proof we are the same person>>: Nice. <<Cause, ladies, we men WOULD conquer the world just for no other reason than to impress you women>>: Um, there are many other reasons. But "chicks dig it" is definitely near the top of the list. <>: Although you've yet to make good on your promises, your speeches have prompted me to offer you some high position in my future world council. I'm just not sure which one yet. <<Can I get an amen>>: AMEN! <>: All hail the digital camera! <>: You and my friend Iris would get along well. She thinks Maynard is the sexiest guy ever (even AFTER she slept with me!). <<my savings account gets put to a good use>>: I'd put a ceiling on my bidding...but damned if I'm gonna tell everyone what it is. <<And I thought I had a disturbing imagination>>: This doesn't change that. <<and Jolene Blalock's puppies>>: Heh, heh. She's on the cover of this month's Maxim. <<Time for your hazing, fuzzy>>: At the frat my friend joined, they made them eat dinner while sitting on a plate of ranch dressing. <<You've been getting into the Nyquil again, haven't you>>: 30 proof! <<how the hell do you create a dance routine for them?>>: Who cares, as long as she performs it in the buff? <<The guy who said, "Give peace a chance?" He got shot>>: Irony much?

Entity: <<their lyrics (1) actually make sense rather than being random phrases that sound cool, and (2) convey very profound and personally-liberating ideas and feelings>>: So true. At my bro's Bar Mitzvah, I was introduced to "Runaway". <<Which do you think is more important: to be mutable or fixed in your beliefs?>>: To be mutable...to a point. Obviously it isn't desireable to be so wishy-washy that everything every idiot says has an effect on your beliefs. <<I've gone from a Thiest to an Athiest to an Agnostic to an Existentialist>>: I don't think that existentialism is a religion.

Ravyn: <>: Why the hell would I appreciate that? Oh, right: I'm a sadist. <<the entire class just gave up and handed in their tests right then>>: The good news is that the curve will be sharp. <>: Sounds like every midterm I've ever taken. <<Darn it, Josh, you can't call me that! I have PMS!>>: I know. <<darn it, what a great excuse>>: Until men start using their brains. <<you'll have to let me know what it's from soon before I go crazy>>: Bloodhound Gang, "Hooray For Boobies". <>: That would suck. <<passed the second hour by teaching everyone in my row how to fold their meeting handouts into origami ducks>>: I always folded stuff into boxes. I have no idea where I get this obsession with boxes... <<I'm off to do some physics homework ... maybe>>: I'd say "neener neener I don't have physics anymore"...but I have stat, linear algebra, and materials to do this weekend, not to mention studying for my fluids test.

Queen of Pain: <<Pentium 4 and Windows XP>>: Well, it could be worse. You could have gotten a Pentium 4 and Windows XP...oh. <<the viewing window is framed by a lot of MSN crap>>: I hear it crashes left and right too. Ah, the benefits of windows. <<Crawling is overplayed>>: I'd have to agree. <<look like a boy band>>: WHAT!? How did you get that? I don't see a lot of boybands with tatoos and eyebrow/tongue piercings.

Jim R: <<this post is coming from OS X. Perfect install, of course>>: Of course. I haven't heard about a single problem with the 10.1 install. <>: You can't even imagine what dual 800's is like. I've got 6 altivec units! Classic starts up with in 5 seconds if I turn off extensions. <>: I hear there's problems with sleeping if you've got SCSI cards. True? <<there it is, on my desktop quickier than ever>>: Do you have a digital camera? You gotta try image capture. <<people would think I use Michael Jackson songs (and parodies) too much>>: Which is bad because...?

DPH: <<welcome to the asslyu . . . the TGS CR>>: Maybe we should rename this place.

Hyperion: <<The other day I was swapping RAM sticks in my machine>>: Always a dangerous procedure. <>: Anything could do it. But most likely static discharge of some sort onto the board. <<Compression,man, compression>>: Are you kidding me? The quality was low enough as is. Where are my hundred meg mpgs!? <<Why does everyone (indefinite) always snicker at the thought of handcuffs>>: Who's snickering? I'm just afraid of it. "No I can't be tied down with a girl that wants me tied up". <>: Your computer dying is "interesting"? <<Why was Satan involved on Sept 11?>>: That's easy: "because he wanted those evil people to die so he could have their souls. That's what they get for being friendly to homosexuals and feminists."

FS: <<All you humans look alike to me>>: Now if only we could convince all the HUMANS of that. <<Even the "We hate Micro$haft" people would line up>>: Not this one. I'd steal a copy. And then run it on VPC. <<Display model>>: Ah, good plan. Saved a bunch of money off a TV that way. <<It has iMac colors>>: We calls those iBooks. Or clamshells. The new ones are usually called "freaking beautiful". <<for a first mac it may be worth it>>: If you're really just getting it to run Linux, why bother? The only reason to buy a mac is to have the Mac OS. Or nowadays, OS X. Which is a full UNIX. You could install linux anywhere. <<if I can get RAM for cheap>>: On a model that's only a year old? Yeah, you still can. Check out ramseeker.com or macsales.com (I go to macsales for my ram). <<I'll have to try it>>: If it works, let me know. I may be interested in purchasing one from you. <<Buzzwords are for newbies>>: Its not a buzzword, its THE NAME. <<PCMCIA, not PC Card>>: Actually, its PCMCIA in a laptop, or PCI Card in a desktop. Period. <<The linux interface makes it easier>>: Easier than the mac interface!? <<a virgin female>>: Virgins are highly overrated. <<fur and flesh>>: No thanks. <<XP has a nasty habit of nearly destroying any Cisco system on the network>>: Gee, now why would they want to go and do something like that? <<It's because people think that is one of the few uses for handcuffs>>: No, there are many uses for handcuffs, and I don't like any of the ones that involve me wearing them. <<you are the proud owner of a paperweight>>: Well, technically, it already WAS a paperweight. Now it just isn't anything else.

Gside; <<You're at college. You have lost of free time interspersed with insane amounts of work>>: Ain't it the truth. <<At least you don't hve getHeat, insertHead, and getTail>>: I had getHeat in my programming class last semester! As for inserthead, gethead, and gettail...those are just function/variable names anyway. <<Eigenvectors, decomposition... I can't think of anything innuendous>>: That was the joke. <<Maybe something with circling your pivots>>: Impressive! I'd not have thought of that. <<It's best to make sure it's initialized to a nice value>>: No, its better to completely remove the variable from the program. <<Odd thought: has he ridden Goliath himself?>>: a better question: Has Salli? <>: Yeah me too. <<John Scopes would be proud>>: Are you surprised that I know who that is? <<that phrase with an explicative infix will conjure up a disturbing image>>: Huh? <>: I am NOT! <>: No thanks. <<The ever popular C variants start at 0>>: I'm not there yet. <>: LOL! <<now I'm waiting for someone to disagree with my describing it as a demotion>>: I don't think any men will. <<When they get around to it>>: aka never. <>: Or be useful? <<As do I>>: As we should, I think. <>: And if not then you have local friends who can. <<Are you sure you grounded yourself?>>: My mom grounded me once, does that count?

Good nite folks...that work stuff really wipes me out.

In all of history, there have only been a few really good scams...the Loch Ness Monster, Canada...
-Al Bundy, Married with Children

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, October 6, 2001 03:22:04 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Caryolyn> <<Sean Connery as Noah tries to convince God that a speedboat would be so much cooler than an ark>>: "Riight". Or, "How long can you tread water?"

Gunjack> <<That's what I get for bein' a stranger>>: Yes, yes it is. Start posting more. You're at college. You have lost of free time interspersed with insane amounts of work.

Imzadi> <<I've decided that my semester has become one 4-month sexual innuendo>>: At least you don't hve getHeat, insertHead, and getTail.
<>: Sorry, I'm not getting it. Eigenvectors, decomposition... I can't think of anything innuendous, except for maybe the phallic nature of vectors. Maybe something with circling your pivots.
<>: That assumes we sould like the default values. It's best to make sure it's initialized to a nice value.
<<Better not tell Keith>>: Odd thought: has he ridden Goliath himself?
<<What if you forget a pen?>>: I refer pencils.
<<we ARE just extra smart monkeys>>: John Scopes would be proud.
<<Just like "Jesus Christ!">>: And from now on, since this wednesday, that phrase with an explicative infix will conjure up a disturbing image.
<<Finally, someone who speaks Josh>>: I thought it was generic male.
<<Doesn't it just suck?>>: I don't know, being in the middle has its charms.
<<Boingy boingy boingy>>: I prefer Bouncy bouncy bouncy.
<<Few cards short of a deck>>: Nah, crossing wires is more descriptive of what's hapening.
<<Its useful when dealing with the indexes of a matrix>>: Not always. The ever popular C variants start at 0.
<<Nope>>: Of course not. You don't read the Meduim. Unless you've found its website.
<<I'd bet the answer is "no">>: I was leaning more towards a question requiring a quantitative answer, rather than a Boolean.
<<True. Real men don't question it>>: Of course, now I'm waiting for someone to disagree with my describing it as a demotion.
<<When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you>>: But of course.

Welcome Ch'Tah.
<<It's about time for some new blood>>: It always is. You'd be amazed how quickly it goes bad.
<<when all the season premieres were going to show up on the web site?>>: When they get around to it.

Christine> <<a gay male gargoyle>>: You know, I can't help but think how the tail would get in the way.

Imzadi> <<The only difference is that I revel in it>>: As do I.

Green Baron> <<For some reason, you asking for porn strikes me as odd>>: I wasn't asking for any, I can get enough on my own.

Ch'Tah> <<Tries to figure out who drank the water>>: There was no water. The Levee was a bar.

Hyperion> <<The other day I was swapping RAM sticks in my machine>>: Are you sure you grounded yourself?

Fire Storm> <<alot of artists, actually>>: True, but he just stands out to me.
<<But it hasn't had steak! Or chased a cat into a turbolift>>: You question the power of cheese? Well, I can understand the steak thing.
<<Hmm... Nope>>: Aw. And I think it would work out so well.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, October 6, 2001 02:56:33 AM
IP: wc02-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

Kyryn: <The comment about becoming the next Chyna was from Ravyn>
All you humans look alike to me.
Taste and smell, on the other hand...

DPH: 
Even the "We hate Micro$haft" people would line up.
Hell, if they promised that, I would actually PAY for a copy. Just not retail price.

Gside: <Aw>
Yeah, I know...

*Checks web page*
Hmm... alot of artists, actually.
<Then it's lived a full life. Unless it can get some more cheese>
But it hasn't had steak! Or chased a cat into a turbolift!
<Bishonen Must Die derived from Corky and the Juicepigs' The Pandas Must Die?>
Hmm... Nope. Sorry. A Elton John parody.

Imzadi: <How'd you get that discount?>
Display model.
<WHAT THE HELL IS AN IMAC LAPTOP?>
It has iMac colors.
I know it is an older model (Like a year old), but for a first Mac it MAY be worth it... if
I can get ram for it cheap. Then I may think about it.
<In any case, interesting poem>
Thanks. I like being a little wierd and poetic some times.

Thats what my thought was too. Hmm... I'll have to try it. And probally soon.
<And its FIREWIRE, damnit!>
Buzzwords are for newbies! REAL techs use the REAL name! ANd it is PCMCIA, NOT PCCARD,
damnit!
<Linux is not a real OS. Use a real flavor of UNIX>
True, true... but the Linux interface makes it easier. I will probally go with a variant of
AIX Unix because that is what I use at work.

Warpmind: <they're fairy tales for technophiles!>
Hmm... Intervlesting.
<*Watches as the xenomorph goes into some sort of frantic state.*>
Thats pretty hard to get me like that. Unless you offer me a virgin female, medium rare with
some nice brain BBQ! ;)

SJ: <Wow. And I thought I had a disturbing imagination>
Evil runs through my veins... well, if I had veins it would.

The puppy and Jolene Blalock's puppies together? Hmm... fur and flesh...
<Oddly enough, Jool is growing on me. I think it's the naked belly.>
But Zhann is so much more then just a pretty face!
<He's British, right? He's the one who occasionally dresses in drag?>
He is a professional transvestite, not like those wierdo transvestites.
And he has a flag.

Windows XP: Rumor has it that XP has a nasty habit of nearly destroying any Cisco system on the network.
Makes me want to load XP on my laptop and take it to work!

Hyperion: <Why does everyone (indefinite) always snicker at the thought of handcuffs? I mean, I raise my eyebrows at six-point suspension but...handcuffs?>
It's because peope think that is one of the few uses for handcuffs.
<A question to all the computer geeks in the room>
First, check to make sure that all the cards, processor, power cords and switch cords are in nice and tight and try again (Most likely you unseated a card)
If that dosn't work, pull out all the cards and insert only the video card with the origional ram. Make sure the processor is in good too. If it boots, bad card or a card wasn't in right. If not...
COngratulations! You are the prowd owner of a paper weight!
Fire Storm
Saturday, October 6, 2001 12:16:15 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Hyperion: Sounds like you fried the board. Probably forgot to touch the case or something like that. Or maybe you did what I did and forgot to unplug the machine. But it sounds very permanently dead. Sorry.
Josh
Saturday, October 6, 2001 12:14:14 AM
IP: c852362-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com

Ok a big 'ol list of totally random stuff...

A question to all the computer geeks in the room: The other day I was swapping RAM sticks in my machine and after one such switch the damned thing refused to boot. At all. No beep codes, no checking for boot devices. Nada.
Slightly concerned I pulled out the newly installed RAM and went back to my old config. Still nada. More concerned I pulled all the RAM, hoping for a beep code of any kind. Zilch. Marginally panicked I powered the thing off and flashed the CMOS of about 30 mins. Plugged in the processor, vid card and one stick of RAM. the thing kept doing it's paperweight impression. Fairly alarmed, I did the same thing overnight, the next morning hooked it up and it just looked at me. Resigned to the continued failure of the machine, I check the jumpers for anything amiss and... nothing.
So, I ask you, what do you think it is? I think the motherboard is blown, but I've never had that happen and I don't see how a few sticks of RAM could do it...Now I'm just fishing for opinions...any thoughts?

Jim R: 14.5 megs! Compression,man, compression! Okay, I'm kidding..I have some monsters on my machine for my initial runs with animation. Excellent movie.

Handcuffs> Why does everyone (indefinite) always snicker at the thought of handcuffs? I mean, I raise my eyebrows at six-point suspension but...handcuffs? <shrug>

Ch'Tah Tyger> Welcome...you probably won't see me much...I only show up when something really interesting occurs. Although the religion discussion almost did it...

Religion> oh, ok, you got me...here's the question: why is the idea of an evil counterpart to God (the Devil, Satan, etc) so discredited? I mean, the flip side of the question "Where was God on Sept 11" would indicate to me the question "Why was Satan involved on Sept 11?"
I don't mean to be to specific on that exact question, but most of my life I've heard Hell described as a place of infernal torment ...all fine, but what about the motives behind the entity that runs it? Obviously he must also have an agenda...hrm?

And thanks in advance for all the good advice anyoen has on my silicon plight. Of course after that last paragaph I wonder how much good advice I�ll get and how much infernal advice I�ll get.
BTW: Good=GOoD=GOD while Devil=dEVIL=evil?

Hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Friday, October 5, 2001 10:31:50 PM
IP: pool-151-197-112-201.phil.east.verizon.net

Green Baron - your plan to stop Southern Baptists has one major flaw in it: not all church members can stand each other. You've have to make sure that everybody was not under one or two roofs. Don't you know the sad fact about Southern Baptists: most new churches are formed because of internal disagreements within an existing church. Some members leave and form a brand new church. Now if the Vatican managed to reconcilation, we would been eternally gratefull because of all the money we could save, eliminating some duplicate positions caused by churches merging.

Ch'Tah Tyger - welcome to the asslyu . . . the TGS CR. {I almost split the beans about the true nature of this place this time.)

**INVISIBLE MAN SPOILERS**
Dumb question: what are the odds that the gland was 'borrowed' from one of those creatures and modified? Or at least reverse-engineered?
**END INVISIBLE MAN**

It's a microspically large world after all.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Friday, October 5, 2001 10:29:08 PM
IP: max1-55.cwy.cei.net

Josh> I'd just thought to let you know, this post is coming from OS X. Perfect install, of course. Damn this thing is fast! I knew OS X would better support my dual 450 processors, but the speed is insane! And I gotta love the SCSI support of 10.1, I pop in a Zip disk into my SCSI Zip, and there it is, on my desktop quickier than ever. Holy shit...

Warpmind> Someone in the Comment Room suggested "Eat It!" for Broadway, so I took that into account. "Fat" would be funny though, but people would think I use Michael Jackson songs (and parodies) too much...

Thanks to everyone who watched my video.
Jim R.
Friday, October 5, 2001 09:32:22 PM
IP: lwby-69ppp224.epix.net

Hola I'm posting from the NEW computer its an HP pavilion 7905 with the pentium 4 and Windows XP. I'm busy adding my bookmarks and I'm getting used to MSN explorer the main problem is that the viewing window is framed by a lot of MSN crap.

Linkin Park, my brother loves them but thinks "Crawling" is verplayed. To me they sound alternative, but look look like a boyband.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Friday, October 5, 2001 08:56:48 PM
IP: 2cust223.tnt3.orl3.da.uu.net

entity> <<Personally, I've gone from a Thiest to an Athiest to an Agnostic to an Existentialist.>>
Existentialist! You hit the magic word with me; I'm a religious Existentialist (yes, the two do go together). You mean existentialism as in Sartre, Heidegger, Buber, Camus, and Kierkegaard right? Camus is close to being one of my favorite authors.
As a matter of fact,my philosophy degree is focusing on Ontology. Now if only you had said phenomenologist...
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Friday, October 5, 2001 08:55:41 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Howdy, all! It's been a little while. ;)

Okay, Josh, you'll probably appreciate this... I took a big huge vector calculus exam this morning... and it was SO long! It was time for the hour to be over, and NO ONE had finished the test yet ... our instructor said we could only have 5 more minutes to wrap up, so the entire class just gave up and handed in their tests right then. That was such a LONG test. I didn't finish some of the problems... I did go through and set them up, though, so I'm hoping for partial credit.

Josh> <<Dweeb. Okay, now that I've said that, do me a favor and don't blow up at me if it happens to be your time of the month.>> Darn it, Josh, you can't call me that! I have PMS!!! ;) Okay, I'm kidding, I don't really... but darn it, what a great excuse! :) <<RUN! FEMALES THAT THINK LIKE SJ! Hey, wait a second...that could be a VERY good thing.>> Uhhh... yeah. ;) <<"I said, 'I wonder what she cooks like...naked...'">> The Critic just plain rocked. I loved that show!!! <<OKAY, GUESS *THAT* REFERENCE!>> Hmm... I'm really gonna go out on a limb here and say Cheech and Chong. Although that line sounds sooo familiar... you'll have to let me know what it's from soon before I go crazy. ;) And good luck with all your problem sets and midterms.

Wilek> I was pretty much kidding about the "next Chyna" steroid thing. I wouldn't really want to look like her. But it *was* a funny thought that popped into my head. ;) And SJ explained the storylines in wrestling perfectly. :)

Happy birthday, Patrick!!! :) Have a great weekend in LA, and tell us all about it.

Jan> That is SO AWFUL about the man who molested his daughter. It's just terrible ... so wrong. I agree with you that it'll be easier for the girl to grow up and deal with the issues that come with what happened to her without that jerk around ... I guess I have to say I'm glad that guy took his own life. I hope he's burnin' someplace for what he did. That's just disgusting. :( The poor girl, to, having to live with that for the rest of her life... but yes, it would have been more difficult for her to deal with the issues and overcome whatever psychological problems that might come up with the jerk dad around.

**sighs** Anyway...

SJ> <<it'd prove we're absolutely f!cking insane. And for some reason, that strikes me as appealing.>> Hey, the insane trigger-happy American bit worked for Reagan... ;) And I'll give you my opinion on baseball... Barry Bonds *is* a prick. I hope they walk him all the rest of his at-bats. ;)

Christine> I'm glad you survived your inservice! ;)

Speaking of silly meetings... I had a work meeting last night, and some of my coworkers and I passed the first hour by basically MST'ing the speakers... then I passed the second hour by teaching everyone in my row how to fold their meeting handouts into origami ducks. What a productive meeting. :)

Welcome, Ch'Tah Tyger! :)

And I'm off to do some physics homework ... maybe. :) Catch y'all later!
Ravyn
Friday, October 5, 2001 08:23:40 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Re: Green Baron> I too dislike partying. Too self-conscious an effort.

Linkin Park> The reason they rate as one of my favorite bands (if not favorite) is that their lyrics (1) actually make sense rather than being random phrases that sound cool, and (2) convey very profound and personally-liberating ideas and feelings.

In contrast, I just like Stabbing Westward's sound.

Green Baron> <<<Entity> I've notice your views change over time.>>> Why thank you. :) <<<BTW, that pic of Duvall you e-mailed me had a virus in it.>>> Damn it... when was this? Awhile ago I had the SirCam virus. That was during August.

Green Baron's comment provokes an interesting idea. Which do you think is more important: to be mutable or fixed in your beliefs?

Personally, I've gone from a Thiest to an Athiest to an Agnostic to an Existentialist.
Entity
Friday, October 5, 2001 07:15:47 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

Well, Barry Bonds is one home run away from breaking the record. Right now, he's tied with McGuire (which I love, because it devalues the baseballs that that tool Todd McFarlane paid millions for a few years back). But a lot of folks are upset with this�.many people around the country don't want Bonds to get the record, because he's�well, why pull punches? Because he's a prick.
Personally, that's EXACTLY why I want him to break the record. Cause it stands to just tick a LOT of people off. And I find it all hilarious. Maybe I'd care a little more if I cared at all about baseball. But I don't, so I find this all very amusing. Any thoughts from anyone else?

80s Cartoon Revival Update: Well, all the 80s toons seem to be coming back into style. G.I. Joe has new toys and a new comic book, John Woo is doing a bunch of stuff with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise, Transformers is back on TV (with new toys, etc.)�and now, "Masters of the Universe" is making a small comeback. Next month, look for 6 brand new He-Man figures. I'm talking, brand new sculpts. Good ones too, sculpts that are mildly reminiscent of McFarlane-brand toys. For the heroes, you got He-Man, Man-At-Arms, and Stratos. For the villains, you get Skeletor, Merman, and Beast-Man. Enjoy!

Daredevil Movie Update: Well, after months of rumors, it's looking more and more like Ben "I like to get drunk and party with my 'good friend' Matt Damon" Affleck will sign on to play Daredevil.

Ahem. Please allow me a moment to indulge.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you.

This makes me angry enough to feed turpentine to a kitten. Again.

On with replies.

Josh: <> It's very disappointing, isn't it? The answer is simple. The band said that they felt they were being pigeonholed into the "industrial metal" genre, and thus wanted to do something "different" creatively. Someone should have smacked them upside the head when they started thinking those thoughts. I love SW, but they're not exactly a band that is setting the entire world on fire. They should stick to what they do best, which just happens to be dark and depressing and angry music. <> Testify, brother Wurzel. <<Apparently, I can get women to do anything I want.>> Further proof we are the same person! <<I've got a full-proof way to make women do
whatever I want: become undisputed dictator of Earth. Yeah, it'll be a bit more expensive, but I think the ends will justify the costs.>> This perfectly illustrates the difference between the sexes. Cause, ladies, we men WOULD conquer the world just for no other reason than to impress you women. At least the pretty ones among you. <<What I really want women to do is to look like the women in Maxim magazine 8-)>> All part of my special eugenics program. Ignore all of those simpering fools from the U.N. outside my door, wailing about human rights violations. They know nothing of true science! (I kid, but eventually, with our increased advancement in the field of genetics, one day we just might have a world populated with Maxim-quality females. ;) <<Yes folks, I'm a pig. And proud of it.>> Can I get an amen? <<How about if she poses for the life drawing instead>>: ::pinky to lips:: naked?>> I will accept nothing else! <<SJ's exact point was that NOTHING can be learned from religious debates.>> Pretty much. At least not from religious debates in HERE. <<who's hot under the collar about it?>>: You, already, judging from your posts.>> And Entity too, judging from his initial reaction to the "Where was God" post. <<No, Trent Reznor is god.>> True. I would add that Maynard James Keenan is his Christ. <<Now, if it IS stark naked...let the bidding begin!>> Finally, my savings account gets put to a good use. <<See you there. You'll need a hand stamp to get into our party.>> Hey, I never said *I* wouldn't be heading down South. ;)

Fire Storm: <<GATOMON! HentiDigivolve to... SEX KITTEN! VEEMON! HentaiDigivolve to... TENTACLEMON!>> Wow. And I thought I had a disturbing imagination. <<Bakula and the puppy are so far the best things about the series.>> I love that puppy. That puppy doesn't get enough air time. I wanna see more of that puppy, and Jolene Blalock's puppies. <<At least the puppy got some cheese! ;)>> Hey - dogs love cheese. <> Oddly enough, Jool is growing on me. I think it's the naked belly.

Robby: <<SJ- I KNOW I've seen that skit before, just can't quite recall where. I think it was Kids in the Hall, but...>> *rings bell* It was EXACTLY from Kids in the Hall, one of the finest sketch comedy shows ever made. Check out reruns on Comedy Central, every weekday.
Religious reference for you KITH fans: God has a cabbagehead.

Tyger: <<It's about time for some new blood, so let me introduce myself.>> BWAH HA HA!!! New, fresh blood! Get the meat cleavers, boys and girls. Time for your hazing, fuzzy.

Green Baron: <<When they hit Rome, Vatican cooks prepare thousands of casseroles along with tons of fried chicken, then offer it to you.>> Oh God. If they cook collard greens, the Baptist revolt is done for.

Tim: You've been getting into the Nyquil again, haven't you?

Eddie Izzard: He's British, right? He's the one who occasionally dresses in drag? Or am I confusing him with someone else?
Anyway, he's not my cup of tea (that's a British reference for you). I'm more into NYC guys like Jim Norton. Anyone a fan of his? Maybe we could get together and discuss just which of Norton's many AIDS jokes is the best. AWFUL.

The Others: Someone just spoil the "surprise ending" for me already.

Linkin Park: They're pretty good (can't give them better than that, because I've found I burn out on their music after a decent period of time). They're leaps and bounds beyond most of the rest of the pack when it comes to today's music. But how the hell do you create a dance routine for them?

My final comment about pacifism: The guy who said, "Give peace a chance?" He got shot.
Some food for thought.

"I to the Iris, R to the isro, that's the anthem, now get your damn hands up!"
--- Iris

Remember - Iris loves you.

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Friday, October 5, 2001 06:24:34 PM
IP: 66-44-58-160.s160.tnt3.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

GB > NAMI stands for National Alliance for the Mentally Ill.
Christine
Friday, October 5, 2001 05:00:34 PM
IP: 15-153.075.popsite.net

**Ch'Tah wakes up, thirsty. Looks around for something to drink.** Hmm. The levee was dry, so I drank Kool-Aid instead! **Tries to figure out who drank the water.**

~~~
Kyryn: Thanks for letting me know. Now I know I have the time to catch up on the ones I haven't read yet. Four down, the rest to go!

Tim: 1st post - It takes all kinds! :)
2nd post - LOL! That's also the best idea I've seen yet! Are you a part of TSA-Talk, if I may ask? :)

Christine: The mark of a good writer is that they can do the seemingly impossible. Who knows, you could pull it off yet!

Green Baron: I admit, I don't like talking about religion on-line much, but I agree fully with what you say. It might not have been God's intention to send lightning bolts to strike the planes down, but it sure was his intention to ease pain and unite the world in support for the United States. I wonder how many people turned to Christianity on that day (and the first few days after). I can bet the numbers were high.
~~~

Anyway, can't wait for the weekend! The 7th and 8th are both going to be cool! My birthday and Thanksgiving! (I'm Canadian, remember?) See ya soon!
Ch'Tah Tyger - [cwtyger@lionking.org]
Revelstoke, British Columbia, Canada
Friday, October 5, 2001 04:59:12 PM
IP: 64.114.2.11

*leans in*

Tim: Ah, i new I forgot soemthing! I heard that on the radio, too, and wanted to make mention of it...

Imzy: Point. ;P
*gone in 60 seconds...*
Lynati
Friday, October 5, 2001 04:51:25 PM
IP: 205.184.191.53

Enter the Green Baron in olive-green slacks, a red polo shirt, and a blue blazer. Yes this is my idea of casual :)

Today, I enjoyed a trip of downtown Hnau and went to a German grocery store. My lord, the prices were cheap. About 30 cents for a half liter of coke. That cosst a dollar in the tax-free military areas, while the thirty cents includes the 16% sales tax. of course, othe rthings are more expensive, but general groceries are not too bad. Now, if only I could avoid paying taxes on stuff like groceries. I am a greedy, penny pinching bastard, aren't I :)

Where was God when the World Trade Center was hit? Where was He when His son's Church was taken over by crokked Florentine dynasties? Where was He when the English conquered Ireland and slaughtered its people? Where was God when fanatics twisted Islam? Where was God during the Holocaust, or when the Turks amde a genocidal campaign against the Armenians? Where was God during Wounded Knee? Where was God when Oliver Cromwell took over England, or when Lenin took Russia? Where was God when...? The lsit is endless. Now, I beleive ina loving God, but not an interventionist social worker God. God gave us free will, and as a result of free will, sh*t happens. If we were not to have free will, there would be no Osmaa Bin Ladin, Fidel Castro, or Cromwell. No Borgia and DeMedici popes. There would be no Hitler or Stalin, nor the Roman Empire. Sadaam Huseein would not be a threat. The Japanese would never have sent thousands of Koreans into labor camps. Now that may sound good, but without free will, let us forget all that we love and lose it.

I doubt we'd have the Internet or any technology, even Paleolithic, because there would be no wars and that is what advances technology. There woudl be no Jesus or Mohammed. There would be no King Arthur. No Cuchallain. Roalnd woudl not exist. Neitehr would El Cid. Colin Powell would not be there. No Mother Teresa either. Eisenhower and Patton, they would not be anyone special. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr would never be known outside his friends. Movies liek BraveHeart and The Patriot would never be seen and neither would Star Wars. Larger then Life heroes would be unneccessary.

All actions have reactions. The tragedy on September 11 ahs brought people together. It has united a city often seen as cold and divided. It reminded many to be more cautious. It has put leaders to the test. Where was God during the destruction of the WTC? Look at the Firemen who saved so many lives and gave a few of their's. What about the palne that didn't hit its traget, because the passenegrs fought back. Look at how many people have donated blood. That is where God can be found.

Now, thsi is just my opinion and beleifs. I do not claim this as anything more. It is not even as prominent as a papal encyclical, but think what you must. Just my own two fennies :)

Jaden> Well, I don't know where he will be? He may not be in Custoemr Service or handling your pay. I hoep you enjoy Ft. Lewis. All that rain is not appealing to me. At least I get nasty weather that comes with nearby towns over a thousand years old.

Ravyn> Huachuca does sound nice, plus you're not far at all form there. Though I may wind up in Alaska. How knows? I just don't want Hawaii.

Imzadi> Well, I feel a little bit better about Germany, especially when you are only a bus ride from a castle. Plus I am only a few hours from palces like Paris and Brussells. I'm only a short flight from London and Dublin. My unit takes soem trips including Nigeria, Izmir, Turkey, Greece, Italy, and the UK. I want to go on soem of them. It mostly pay missions, but I get to travel for free.

<<So go party with them! What's the confusion?>> I hate parties. Besides, their idea of a godo tiem is getting drunk and playing loud music. I wish the MPs would break stereo speakers whenever the decibel level exceeded 120.

As for family celebrations, i have too many memories of two day car rides to stay in my garndparents' retirement condo starting on Christmas, plus my father got drunk one Christmas when I was 16 and itw asn't pleasant. I am so glad he quit drinking, though my godfather has been drinking again, which worries me. When I get married, no alchohol at the wedding. It wouldn't be fair to my family, considering how many alchoholics are in it.

Oddly enough that retiremnet concdo is my new legal residence. I am now a resident fo Florida. No more state income taxes for me :) Plus another vote against Janet Reno :)

Living in Broward Borough, I may have to switch parties so my votes can count in primary elections, but that's a small price to pay.

Attila was soemthing else. Just read the archives starting with August of 98 and skim for Attila. You'll get a godo laugh out of all his antics.

DPH> I guess the Declaration. What do Southern Baptists find crazy about us Catholics? Some think we worship Mary, which is a misconception. Others are botehred by our beleif in Transubstantiation. Also the concept of fasting during Lent must bother people who believe you worship best after a casserole and some chicken:) I hope you don't think my faith crazy. We're just from an older time and not perverted as much by the modern world.

Sevarius Jr.> I doubt there is that much gold or the riches you think there are in the Vatican. Beisdes, we have a plan to stop Southern Baptists. When they hit Rome, Vatican cooks prepare thousands of casseroles along with tons of fried chicken, then offer it to you. An invasion becomes a fellowship dinner :)

Warpmind> You got a good point, there. I don't really see a big war. The Northern Alliance jsut need a few good men to retake their country.

Wilek> Scary Movie II was very good. I loved the Exorcist part, because I am an Exorcist fan, but that's expected from soemone who's mother's family were taught by Jesuits.

Loincloth and cloak was more accustoemd to the times. A modern day barbarian would be the same. Besides, the term was a Roman war for foreigner. It is as misused as crusade, which is rarely used religiously today.

Sevarius Jr.>

God is Dead
-Nietzsche

Nietzsche is Dead
-God

How's that for philosophy?

Aingeal> Well, I wouldn't take the movie Dogma seriously. God is neither male nor female. Same with the angels.

Patrick> Happy Birthday. Have some super-reinforced viagra :)

Gside> For some reason, you asking for porn strikes me as odd. Then again, I am a borderline eunech and I have a breast fixation. Well, my mother should have done a better job of emotional castration. On the other hand, I'm glad she didn't.

Metaldemon> Well, conversions don't occur overnight or by one debate. They take a longtime and usually require a revelation. CS Leiws was an atheist, while I think Mary Madaline OHare was raised a Catholic. Chesterton was an Anglican who became Catholic, well not too big a change.

I remember a book called Rome Sweet Home that talks about many conversions form all different faiths, from fundamentalists to more secular religions.

Entity> I've notice your views change over time. BTW, that pic of Duvall you e-mailed me had a virus in it.

Bishansky> I rather like how you want to handle Al Qaeda, but lets not forget to spread teh wealth. Hezbollah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad are all terrorist groups that need to be wiped out.

Lain> Handcuffs. That reminds me of a past Im session where I was playing with the symbols :)

<<if i had a million dollars, id buy your love>>
You can't buy my love, but it can be laased :)

As for gender sterotypes, things are different, but not that different. All the same, you look at some parts of the world and you wish those sterotypes were the worst thing women faced.

As a Catholic, I'm amused by how soem "feminsits" single my faith out when there arefundamentalists a few states away who have really primitive notions about women.

Niamhgold> It's not conventionalsim that is bad, but complacency. Still, I find conventionalism too outside the box. I'm more into three-piece suits and my post begins with my concept of casual. I don't even own a pair of jeans.

<,I want to work for a *gasp* corporation and make *gasp* money ;) Is that such a horrible wish?>> I'm glad to hear it. The sixties are over and most of the hippies went corprorate in the eighties anyway. Its graet to apsire to be soem remarkable artist, but lets remember that the most famous artits of our times died in Pauper's graves and many were thoroughly insane (like Mozart or Van Gogh). It's only through commercialism and teh burgouise that an artist liek Stephen King can live nicely instaed of looking for patrons so he can eat like Shakespeare did. Now, if only your Univeristy coudl realize that. Loyola had the same thing, though plenty of unconcentional types can be pretty good entrepeneurs, then they go to the business school for help, so they can keep the business going :)

Christine> NAMI? Who are they?

Zath> I wonder what became of you. I noticed you're a fan of the Scarlet Pimpernel. I liked it, especially since I think the French Revolution was a big mistake and I feel sorry for all the aritocrats murdered in it, especially those I may be related to.

Ch'Tah Tyger> Welcome. New faces are appreciated.

Josh> I admit to being a dork, but I'm a dork with my own female fan club, thanks to Christine :)
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Pioneer Kasserne, Hanau, Germany
Friday, October 5, 2001 04:03:14 PM
IP: bfce.hanau.army.mil

Sorry for the double post

Jim R: Forget Baldy's "Fat" suggestion. Use "Grapefruit Diet" 8-)
Josh again
Friday, October 5, 2001 03:15:50 PM
IP: c852362-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com

Lynati: I am PERMANENTLY afflicted with the "I am a dork syndrome". And SO IS EVERYONE ELSE IN HERE. The only difference is that I revel in it.
Josh
Friday, October 5, 2001 03:12:21 PM
IP: c852362-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com

Well, here we go again ... I just sent Black Roses to RAP in my continuing efforts to see it in print as well as on tape. Here's hoping!

Jan > a bag of bones? Neat! I had some fun contacting the Humboldt County sheriff's dept. during one of my rare research episodes (I try to avoid actual research as much as possible), asking what would be the typical procedure if someone found an old skeleton hidden in their house. After stressing, repeatedly, that I was writing a book ; ) The deputy I dealt with was quite helpful. Do you get weird calls like that? And if not, can I start bouncing my peculiar police procedure quezzies off of you?

Josh > my next dirty story? I haven't written a naughty fic in ages, and the one I've got in the works is another clean one. So, to the disappointment of those who write me regularly looking for more Demona and Godiva, as well as those who like to think all I write is smut so that gives them an excuse to bash and trash all over me, I'm afraid it's going to be a while before I resume living up to my lofty reputation (and when I do, ha-ha, it's gonna be a Corwin story ... though maybe the delay is because it's rather difficult for a straight human female to write sex scenes from the POV of a gay male gargoyle <g>).

Patrick and Jen > have a great time at Six Flags! Oh, btw, I lost my ICQ and had to get a new number; reach me at 133972645 (I hope I registered right!)

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, October 5, 2001 01:41:14 PM
IP: 18-074.075.popsite.net

I got it! I know how we can punish Osama bin Laden!I like THIS idea better than any I've heard so far!!! LMAO Serve him right!!!!!

What do we do with Osama bin Laden:

Killing him will only create a martyr.

Holding him prisoner will inspire his comrades to take hostages and demand his release.

Therefore, Let the Special Forces capture him, fly him to an undisclosed hospital and have surgeons quickly perform a complete sex change operation.

Then we return "her" to Afghanistan to live as a woman under the Taliban.
Tim
Friday, October 5, 2001 01:41:02 PM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

*Enters*

Jim R. : spiffy video. how long do you suppose it'll take until the next one is done?

Ch'Tah Tyger: Heyla and welcome. If Imzadi tries to tell you that the next season is never coming out, just ignore him, he's afflcited with the "I am a dork" syndrome quite often...

Patrick Toman: eep! Happy (belated) birthday.

Wilek: no, it looks like the CD's are gone permanently, along with the two playstation ganes I had in the box. :P I don't know what the sickness was; my ankle has been going on and off in turns, and the old "really hot salt water gargle" trick worked on my gums, after about three days. Now, if I only hadn;t scraped my knuckles raw hollowing out my head the other day (damn raku clay grog) I might actually consider myself in better health.

yes, I am another Linkin Park fan.

ooh, I know a bear story...only it's about God, a bear, and a christian...starts out the same up until the bear is about the eat the guy.
The guy lowers his head and prays for GOd to save him, and to his amazement discovers the bear has lowered his head and is praying along with him. The man exclaims, "dear Lord, thank you for this miracle!" at which point the bear raises his head and says, "Do you mind? I'm trying to say grace!"

Nothing else new in my life. TTYL.
*Out*
Lynati Kshudra
Friday, October 5, 2001 01:16:57 PM
IP: kcx-ks22a-84.rasserver.net

Ch'Tah Tyger: Hello, clueless newbie! ;) My name is Tim I've been hanging around the comment room on and off for a few years now. I usually don't post very often unless there is some thing of interest gong on (you know, guns, politics, poking fun at Rosie O'Donnel). I'm aspiring to be a US Marine and am attending college. Which seems a bit odd because lately people have been going to school to stay OUT of military service.

Oh well, I never was all that well in the head.
Tim Phipps
Friday, October 5, 2001 01:06:43 PM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

*Warpmind enters, holding up a small stack of comics.*
Hey, Fire Storm! Got something ya might enjoy! The comic "Gremlin Trouble"; they're fairy tales for technophiles! :D *Watches as the xenomorph goes into some sort of frantic state.*

Josh: Oh, how can you say a howitzer isn't an everyday item? Oh, wait, that's right, you're a snob kid from ForniCalia... };)

Carolynn Marie: Glad you like the idea. Personally, I once went through the thorough descriptions of a still my neighbour had. Good moonshine in that, actually. }:)

Jim R: Nice. I almost laughed several body parts off (none of which is appropriate to mention here), with that soundtrack. Though, if you're going to use a Weird Al soundtrack for Broadway, why not "Fat" instead? };)

Niamhgold: VERY nice... though, you might want to check the back of the right hand a bit for those gem thingies... just a thought. :) You look great, girl!

Josh: You missed my point about Puck being Alexander's Godfather... that'd just make him the Fairy Godfather, as opposed to the fairy tale norm... (Ugh, I just said that out loud, and it became worse than planned...) And no, we Norsemen are a pretty lazy folk - unless there's a really short distance to our transportation, we won't bother. Too much luggage is too impractical.

Wilek: Ah, yes, the brainstorming... you know, I still have the 7D recordings of that... there are some truly amazing astral movements in the test zones... }:)

Moochie: Good to see ye're back! Look, I got some GURPS stuff I'd like you to take a look at... some racial templates, and somesuch doohickeys.

Well, that's about it. I'll be leaving you with an upcoming snippet of dialogue from the CRPG I'm still working on.
Valentine: "So, after you've summoned the Destroyer, and he lays waste to the world, what'll happen to you?"
Cult Leader: "Um... *thinks,* Actually..." *Claps hands* "Heads up, everyone, we haven't thought this through!"
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, October 5, 2001 12:19:52 PM
IP: mp-217-214-106.daxnet.no

***Kyryn drags herself into the room***

Ooo. Massive sinus headache and editing do not go together. Unfortunately, I've got deadlines at work that have to be met.

Josh><What if you forget a pen?> That's what sharp fingernails and someone else's blood are for!

Ch'Tah Tyger> Welcome to the CR. There's a jar by the door where you can leave your sanity. The next series premiere will be the next season of Timedancer. It is currently being worked on and should be up sometime in the next month or two.

Patrick> Happy belated birthday.

Kyryn
Denton, Tx
Friday, October 5, 2001 09:47:14 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

** Niamhgold enters **

Ugh, tired! Good luck on midterms, Josh :)
And anyone else who either has to do a project, write a paper, or test!

Adios...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Niamhgold
Friday, October 5, 2001 08:03:59 AM
IP: 206.41.204.140

It's about time for some new blood, so let me introduce myself. Ch'Tah Tyger's my name (okay, it's not my real name, but it's the only name you're getting), and I've been a Gargoyles fan since the first episode aired, over six years ago. I've been to this site on numerous occasions in the past few months, and at the risk of sounding like a clueless newbie, I was wondering when all the season premieres were going to show up on the web site?
Ch'Tah Tyger - [cwtyger@lionking.org]
Revelstoke, BC, Canada
Friday, October 5, 2001 06:52:52 AM
IP: 64.114.2.11

Curses!

Well, it looks like I might not have done as well on my math midterm as I hoped. Oh well, I'll recover. As long as I get a C or better, everything's fine. Sorta.

I swore that thing was so easy...but he handed out the solutions today and it looks like a made some really dumb errors. I know the concepts, and I obviously demonstrated that...but there were problems in the execution. Yuck.

Oh well, there's still three more to go, can't waste time whining now when I won't see my actual grade until monday.

In other news, I went to way too many hours of class today. An hour at my TA's office hours, an hour and a half at math, and hour in my midterm, another hour and a half at a materials review, and another hour at a fluids review.

I've decided that my semester has become one 4-month sexual innuendo. Do you have any idea how hard it is to sit through classes about fluids (head, orifices, pipes), materials (twisting, shafts, drills, holes), and dynamics (collisions, banging, friction, heat) without laughing maniacally? ITS REALLY DIFFICULT!

Not to mention linear algebra and stat...those are just filled with sexual innuendo (I really only expect Gside to see the humor in that statement).

FS: Long time no see. <<CR info update will be delayed>>: That's alright, we're not going anywhere. <<Never saw Vulcan nipples>>: I don't imagine they're anything more special than their human counterparts. <<its only $699>> How'd you get that discount? <<iMac laptop>>: WHAT THE HELL IS AN IMAC LAPTOP? In any case, interesting poem. <<is there any reason that there can't be multiple hard drive controllers on a single external device>>: I don't see why not. It'd be like a SCSI chain, just all enclosed in one box. And its FIREWIRE, damnit! <<set_crash=random to set_crash=false>>: I think you'd have to just delete that line entirely. <<what's your favorite distribution of Linux>>: Linux is not a real OS. Use a real flavor of UNIX (god, it so cool to be able to say that!)

Patrick: Happy birthday! <<I'm still pondering whether it will be worth it to take my laptop computer along and deal with trying to get it through the beefed-up security so I can use the five hours on the plane to work on fanfic>>: Of course it is. <>: LOL. <>: You JUST figured that out? <<I'm off in just a few more hours for a weekend trip to California>>: Welcome to MY HOUSE! <<and probably giggle ourselves silly again as only Gargoyles fans can over the prospect of "riding Goliath.>>: LOL! Better not tell Keith. <<Cake or death?>>: Eh, let 'em eat cake.

Siofra: <<If we can hook up in IM'er or something I can send them to you>>: What's your screen name on AIM?

Kyryn: <>: What if you forget a pen?

Lain: <<except that everyone thinks im the biggest wierdo ever for wandering around talking into my walkman>>: You are, just not for that particular reason. <<blue "hotwheels" computers for boys and pink "barbie" computers for girls>>: I remember those. God were those pieces of crap. <<maybe your parents would mind if you were LIVING IN SIN with your feminist-non-christian-evil-corrupting-canadian-temptress girlfriend>>: Living in sin implies sex. <<not just extra-smart monkeys>>: News flash: we ARE just extra smart monkeys.

Aingeal: <<you and my BF would get along>>: Yet oddly, you and I don't. I wonder what that means. <<and here I wondered why the world was going to hell>>: Yup, my bad. <<WTF? are you ill>>: No, just in no particular mood to get flamed by you. <<let me know when you do... this' I've got to see>>: Lets just say it involves certain biological cycles and the desire to backstab people you supposedly love. <<catnip does fun things to me>>: Um... <<defensive on my intelligence since my rents tend to make me feel like an idiot>>: They're just jealous. <>: Yes! Now, when the blood of two canadians is spilled...no, wait, wrong movie.

The Wizard: <>: And you call yourself an "artist". ;-) <<Hopefully no one's planning on beating you up>>: Nope just me. <<Have you played/beaten the thing yet>>: I beat Riven, but I haven't even tried Exile yet. <<has a wonderfully powerful ring to it...do it!>>: I'll consider it. <<You could always cop out and use an actually graphic clip of a monstruous Typhoon>>: GAH! And tarish my otherwise stunning icon collection? <<Is that a Thomson of South Park reference?>>: Nope. <<Wait, did you mean "need"?>>: Nope. <<their organs have all been replaced by mooing cans>>: Sweet! I want to put those in my leather sofa. <>: I can't, I'm already using "the wizard". <>: I disagree. Drugs are your friend! <<If you can't help yourself, how can anyone else help you>>: ::Stabbing Westward:: "I cannot save you. You can't even save yourself..." <<there's always the one minute screw>>: No thanks. <<I'm sure you aced it>>: You would be wrong. <<You've made me laugh *twice* in one post. Your record's improving>>: Slowly. <<you do realize how horribly controversial that shizzit is, right>>: What does Acutane have to do with depression? <<Wouldn't entropy suggest the opposite>>: Actually no. <<Someone told me I was being much too nice just a few nights ago. He relented later>>: After you bitched him out. <<For women, you need 3D Studio Max>>: I'm sure lightwave, AutoCAD, and Maya will do fine. <<Sorry, but that _didn't_ make me laugh>>: Oh come on that was funny! <<I'm sure that's dependent on cup size>>: This is true. <<Thank god a _guy_ is questioning this>>: Notice none of us have an answer. <<What's with all the existentialism in here, lately?>>: Fish are fun. <<come on, it's all about NIN>>: POINT. <<You're making it easier for him to take over the world>>: Isn't it sweet?

Jan: <<runs thru throwing confetti all over the place>>: GAH! ::tries frantically to get confetti out of hair::

Jim R: <<How long actually *DID* it take you to download that 200MB file over a modem?>>: Well, lets see: ::grabs calculator:: 189.8 megs is 194,355.2 k, and at about 3k a second...about 18 hours. It actually took longer, though, because occasionally I'd disconnect and have to resume the download. Not to mention that speeds are all over the place. I think it was closer to 20-25 hours. Two days later, I deleted it 8-). <>: You can't even imagine how awesome it is. I was using a special build of 10.0.4 on my quicksilver, and I thought "damn this is fast with 2 800's, how could it possibly get any faster?" Well, it can. We're talking 20-30 second bootups, everything opening in a bounce or LESS. There are still some bugs (like my iDisk doesn't work properly, and iTunes skips left and right whenever I use the CPU to do anything)...but I haven't seen a single kernel panic.

SOROW: <>: For the record, you just became many times hotter and more awesome.

Its the simple things that make life interesting, no?

Moochie: <>: Welcome to college. <<demosntrates why you should never try to nuke a 400-foot-tall moose>>: The other day I nuked a baby seal for christ...

Smut Pandering Bitch Queen of All Creation: <<Another Night in the Monkey House>>: sub-title: "A trip to Gathering of the Gargoyles". <<firefighter calendar>>: I dunno...they'll let ANYONE be a firefighter... <<that also might not be a bad name for a dirty book>>: Speaking of which...when is YOUR next dirty story due out?

Jan: <<story>>: Was that supposed to be a joke or an inspirational? Because no self-respecting atheist would renounce his faith. "Oh my god" is just an expression. Just like "Jesus Christ!" or "What the hell...". <<It�s nice knowing that you have a steady income each month, have benefits, retirement fund building>>: Sure beats being a starving artist! <<You may end up being a lonely man>>: I can handle that. Things will be quiet...and cheap ;-) <<remember, �this too shall pass�.>>: The question is...will I?

DPH: <<Can you go any further back in seeming unrelated events tied to the creation of the 'net>>: Well, technically, you could go back to the invention of money, since that's what led to Karl Marx's bitching in the first place. <>: Well DER. But they're not gonna bother making that promise, now that they can just threaten to sue anyone who doesn't buy the new OS. <<I'm in pretty good shape if you take over the world>>: I don't think that's necessary knowledge for world leadership.

Gside: <<No, he's saying some types of dancing can be more... stimulating than others>>: Finally, someone who speaks Josh. <<Wait, I'm no longer on top>>: Doesn't it just suck? <<The periodic motion>>: Boingy boingy boingy. <<You have a couple wires crossed>>: Few cards short of a deck. <<drown the kids and shoot the neighbors>>: Oh if only... <<What about me>>: Case rested. <<Why would anyone start incrementing from 1>>: Its useful when dealing with the indexes of a matrix, since those are commonly referred to as beginning with 1. <>: Then you'd be right. <<The Medium>>: Nope. <<I'd rather have more violence. Or porn>>: You need to come hang out on my machine: 13 gigs, with 12 en route. <>: I'd bet the answer is "no". <>: True. Real men don't question it. <<you right brainers really should default to us for your opinions>>: "When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you"

Okay folks, time for me to crash. Think happy thoughts so that I actually pass my midterm tomorrow!

I got pistol whipped at laser tag.
- Aaron Wheeler, at Gathering 2001

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, October 5, 2001 02:46:37 AM
IP: c852362-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com

SOROW> <<Are you saying my dancing is crap?>>: No, he's saying some types of dancing can be more... stimulating than others.

Wilek> Woot. Wait, I'm no longer on top.
<<What is with the fascination with mammaries?>>: The periodic motion.
<<No boom today. Boom tomorrow>>: You're also the Red Queen?
<>: It was one of my first mp3s.
<<are yez getting a Gamecube?>>: I am currently too cheap to buy a console myself. What we have is provided by my suitemates (we also have a PS2 and another N64).
<>: 50 characters? Yes, I do believe it shall be fun.
<<sheep can hear zippers>>: There have been sheep jokes abounding around here lately.
<<What does it say about me that the stuff *I* think about every seven seconds would cause Lovecraft to slit his throat?>>: You have a couple wires crossed.
<<They are sooo boring>>: All the more reason to ramp up your genetic manipulation department.

SJ> <<I'd vote for the animated Mista J.>>: Well, drown the kids and shoot the neighbors.

Imzadi> <<WE DON"T HAVE ANY!>>: What about me? Oh. Right.
<<I'm gonna be needing those hands>>: That was paraphrased from 8Bit Theater. Though I do have ideas to build the three primary black spells into a blue cloak.
<<Only in programming classes do we have "lab 0">>: Why would anyone start incrementing from 1?
<<THAT is what we need>>: I rather thought so.
<<GUESS *THAT* REFERENCE>>: The Medium? Wait, there was no reference to manlove. Real quote from the latest issue: Two girls and a bowl of pudding is the most arousing thing I can think of. And it is best not to mention the pictures of the university president and a clown pasted on lesbian porn.
<<Your huge post keeps me from studying>>: That's a problem?

Fire Storm> <<Those scenes do NOT appear in the story>>: Aw.
<<People actually drew the DigiDestened having sex>>: I believe his name is Sirkowski.
<<At least the puppy got some cheese>>: Then it's lived a full life. Unless it can get some more cheese.
<<And finish the evil filk>>: Bishonen Must Die derived from Corky and the Juicepigs' The Pandas Must Die?

Happy Birthday Patrick.

Lain> <<the hotwheels computers had extra math programs>>: I'd rather have more violence. Or porn.

Niamhgold> <<Is that such a horrible wish?>>: According to my brother, yes.
<<I'm sure that's dependent on cup size>>: I can't help but this is time for a personal question followed by a "Wink wink, nudge nudge."
<<Thank god a _guy_ is questioning this>>: Yes, but I think it's gotten to the point where we've demoted him to asexual.
<<I'm an illustration/animation major, remember?>>: *adopts haughty pose* True, you right brainers really should default to us for your opinions, but as this is a right brain matter, I think you can hold out on your own.

I'll get the rest later. Not to self: stopped at Imzadi's short post.

And with the religion talk, I have posted an mp3 about the ineffability of God (and who wants to eff God?). And God Shuffled His Feet, by Crash Test Dummies.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, October 5, 2001 01:38:46 AM
IP: wc02-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

**momentarily delurks**

Wilek> << <sings> Now come let our lady possess you/In her breathtaking, hair-raising bed/She'll tingle your spine, as she captures your heart and your head!>> Sing! Swing! Savor the sting/ As she severs you - Madame Guillotine!/ Slice! Come, Paradise!/ Our Delilah will shave you razor clean!

Mwahahaha! I love that song! It's my favorite song in the whole show. What a coincidence you should mention it now when I'm going to see a community theater production of the Scarlet Pimpernel this weekend. :)

Okay, now back to lurking...

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Friday, October 5, 2001 12:58:31 AM
IP: ppp-224-122.usc.edu

Thanks for the birthday wishes, everyone. :)

Carolyn Marie > Let's see... cake, please. ;) Crzy's the one who actually introduced me to Eddie Izzard. We sat and crashed after G2001, eating pizza and watching her tape of that show. Only I was so tired I think I must've blanked out at points... so when I saw it running again on HBO a few weeks ago, I watched it all over again. Oh yeah... I think I've decided that my Captain Chavez costume at G2K and G2001 makes me an "executive transvestite." ;)

And I'm off in just a few more hours for a weekend trip to California. Jen and I are going to go to Six Flags... and probably giggle ourselves silly again as only Gargoyles fans can over the prospect of "riding Goliath." :)

"Thank you for flying Church of England. Cake or death?" - Eddie Izzard
Patrick Toman
Friday, October 5, 2001 12:36:00 AM
IP: ac8cd7f1.ipt.aol.com

Wilek - congrats. Can you go any further back in seeming unrelated events tied to the creation of the 'net. By the way, I think 8 of those special robots should be enough to conquer the world with. Bear in mind, *I* know how to destory them (not by activating a self-destruct sequence).

All that is about is illustrating the point altering history is very tricky. It also ties us to current events. What if the events of 9-11 cause the prevention of something more horrific. Is it worth it then?

Feliz cumpleanos Patrick!!

Patrick - my brother is 12 years older than I am. I told him when he starts lying about his age, I start lying about mine. Any questions?

Bad tv reception kept me from watching Enterprise this week. The local UPN affliate doesn't produce that strong of a signal. Also, I live between two hills so that doesn't help things.

Fire Storm & Entity <Entity: <"Plan Dark Omega" -- spend five minutes to patch up all the errors in Windows>
Change the string BUGS=TRUE to BUGS=FALSE and SET_CRASH=RANDOM to SET_CRASH=FALSE > I still believe if Microsoft promised that its new operating system would be bug free, people would be lining up just to that version.

Imzadi - College has a tendacy to do that. Since you can't plot how Karl Marx led to the internet, I'm in pretty good shape if you take over the world. Yes, the check cleared on my side.

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Thursday, October 4, 2001 11:06:15 PM
IP: max1-26.cwy.cei.net

Did someone say "The Others"?

If it's a recommendation you want, consider this: I've seen it twice at the theatre and I've been innwithdrawel ever since the 2nd time.

Is it worth it?

My God yes.
Entity
Thursday, October 4, 2001 10:25:24 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

** Niamhgold enters **

Are we having a Linkin Park rally?!? Tally me as for!

Adios :)
Niamhgold
Thursday, October 4, 2001 10:20:47 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

God, the Bear and the Atheist

An atheist was taking a walk through the woods, admiring all that the "accident of evolution" had created. "What majestic trees!
What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!," he said to himself.

As he was walking alongside the river he heard a rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly charge towards him.
He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing.
He ran even faster, so scared that tears were coming to his eyes. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer. His heart was pumping frantically and he tried to run even faster.

He tripped and fell on the ground. He rolled over to pick himself up but saw the bear; right on top of him; reaching for him with his left paw and raising his right paw to strike him.

At that instant the Atheist cried out "Oh my God!...."
Time stopped. The bear froze.
The forest was silent.
Even the river stopped moving.
As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of the sky, "You deny my existence for all of these years; teach others I don't exist; and even credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament?
Am I to count you as a believer?"

The atheist looked directly into the light "It would be
hypocritical of me to suddenly ask You to treat me as Christian now, but
perhaps could you make the bear a Christian?"

"Very well," said the voice.
The light went out.
The river ran again.
And the sounds of the forest resumed.
And then the bear dropped his right paw .... brought both paws together...
bowed his head and spoke:
"Lord, for this food which I am about to receive, I am truly thankful."

;)

Naimgold> <> absolutely nothing wrong with that! It�s nice knowing that you have a steady income each month, have benefits, retirement fund building, etc. =)

Josh> <<What I really want women to do is to look like the women in Maxim magazine 8-)>> *chuckles* You may end up being a lonely man.
<<Maybe he was confusing you with me...since we're so similar>> ummm yeah, that�s it! I don�t know, but I sure as hell would like to know why he�s accused me of being like this.
Sorry about the mid-terms� remember, �this too shall pass�.

Has anyone seen the movie, �The Others� ? I�m wondering if it�s worth seeing or not.

I just got off the phone with one of our detectives. Seems as if a bag of bones was found in a small neighboring town. They have not determined if the bones are animal or human yet. He was waiting on the phone call from the police officer.

Heh, I received a phone call from the school today. They wanted me to come in for an interview. I had put in my application back in August for special ed. teaching assistant but hadn�t heard back from them when I interviewed for my current job. I wouldn�t have minded working back in the school system, but did NOT want to do the actual teaching again. It was a bit tempting to go ahead and arrange for the interview but I really do like my job at the sheriff�s office =)

It�s supposed to turn off cold here tomorrow. Ick. I haven�t even found my coats yet O.o I�m off on Monday for Columbus Day, so it sounds like it�s going to be a good time to finish up on the painting in my house.

*screams like a girl* E.R. is on! Bye!

Jan
Thursday, October 4, 2001 10:04:17 PM
IP: modem19-174.mo-net.com

One other comment from last week...

SJ><<Now who's becoming adept at using veiled insults?>> Actually, that was supposed to be ironically self-referential. *shrugs* ...water under the bridge by now, of course.
Gunjack "Twittish" Valentine
Thursday, October 4, 2001 09:54:20 PM
IP: 192.133.129.4

They say the full moon doesn't really affect people. They say it, but after the work week I've just put in, I don't believe it for a second! Had a resident come _crawling_ in, not on hands and knees but creeping on his belly and elbows like a soldier going under rows of barbwire. Told me that he was "just practicing." Some day I'll title my autobiography Another Night in the Monkey House ... and probably get sued by NAMI for casting the mentally ill in a bad light. :P

Josh > after attending the same inservice so many times (not to mention suffering periodic episodes of depression myself), I'm not worried about any test they could have thrown at me. As for all women looking like the ones in Maxim, sounds good to me ... so long as all the guys are going to look like they stepped out of the International Male catalog or a firefighter calendar ; )

Winterwolf > the computer's mostly back to normal now. Luckily, because Tim is compulsive about backing things up, we didn't lose much besides our website bookmarks. Hey, how's the plans for moving thisaway? Or have you done already?

Aaron > no, sadly, despite the title, The Book of All Flesh is a buncha zombie stories, to go along with the game All Flesh Must Be Eaten (admittedly, that also might not be a bad name for a dirty book).

Wilek > thanks for the offer of your torture services. I know you've just been itching to get at Jericho with icepicks and garlic presses and dental hygeine tools. But I'll pass. I prefer psychological and emotional torment ; )

Fire Storm > please do; the next issue's deadline is Nov. 28th.

Survivor > tonight, a sneak peek at the cast of the Africa show, with retrospectives and interviews from seasons 1 and 2! Next week, the fun begins again!

Enterprise > I think I'm doomed to be forever one week behind. I finally watched the pilot (forgot the tape on Tuesday night, darn it), but missed last night's ep. Anyway, I'm liking it well enough so far. Song's got to go, though, I definitely agree with those who've voiced that opinion!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, October 4, 2001 09:47:13 PM
IP: 18-072.075.popsite.net

Darn that nasty virus. 24 hours till I get my real connection back... Right on time to catch me while I'm SUPPOSED to be cramming for midterms. My life has achieved cyclical properties. I get sick, tests hit, I want to die, test end, I recover. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Wilek - What, an entire post, and only one reply!? That's what I get for bein' a stranger... : P ..and no, Clint Eastwood is the video with the groove-dancing zombie gorillas. 19-2000 is the video that shows what a good driver Murdoc is, and demosntrates why you should never try to nuke a 400-foot-tall moose.

More later.
Gunjack "Who's Afraid of Kaioto Jr?" Valentine
Thursday, October 4, 2001 09:41:01 PM
IP: 192.133.129.4

Happy Birthday Patrick!
Entity> I love Linkin Park. I'm doing a lot of choreography from their album too.
SOROW
Thursday, October 4, 2001 08:12:37 PM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

PATRICK< Happy birthday, old man!!! *tosses six-packs and wields a big cake-knife* Eddie Izzard fan, eh? Cake or death? :)

Though my personal fave was his "Sean Connery as Noah tries to convince God that a speedboat would be so much cooler than an ark" bit ;D

"Some people say that guns don't kill people; people kill people. But I'm sure the guns help. You're not going to do much harm if you walk around and yell BANG!! at people." ~ Eddie Izzard, "Dressed to Kill"
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Thursday, October 4, 2001 07:44:26 PM
IP: pc169-193.drew.edu

Entity> <>
When and where? :)

metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Thursday, October 4, 2001 07:36:18 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Linux question: What's your favorite distribution of Linux?
And has anyone in here had any experience with RedmondLinux?

Jim R: 
Well, when Winamp.com allowed FTP access, I downloaded the entire site on a 56k modem... all 600mb of it. Over the course of a few weeks. I think it was a good hundred hours total.
Fire Storm
Thursday, October 4, 2001 07:19:24 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Josh> "KICKASS VIDEO!" Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

How long actually *DID* it take you to download that 200MB file over a modem?! Certainly not 1 hour and 8 minutes, right? I would never attempt something like that...with...a...56k...modem...

I get OS X 10.1 tomorrow. Sunrise, my Apple retailer, said they ordered their shipment, but didn't get it in by last Saturday and didn't expect to until this week. They should have it now.
Jim R.
Thursday, October 4, 2001 06:31:37 PM
IP: lwby-69ppp235.epix.net

Entity: I'm a huge linkin park fan, been listening to them since before they released an album, back when they were spreading their name through the miracle of MP3's. Anyway, I have to agree on names. Although, "Stabbing Westward" is a far better album title than many of the OTHER's I've heard ::cough cough IOWA (or is it OHIO) cough cough::
Josh
Thursday, October 4, 2001 06:19:07 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Happy birthday, Patrick!
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, October 4, 2001 06:12:16 PM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup061.dialsprint.net

If I felt like being controversial, I could pitch the notion of debating the benefits of believing in the Judeo-Christian God vs. believing in an abstract, undefined God. If I was feeling controversial.

Josh> I actually hadn't known about Westward's new album. I test-downloaded some songs, though, and I think I gotta agree with you, it's a different sound. I prefer an album labeled 'Wither Blister Burn & Peel' to self-titled any day. I mean, c'mon, that's just _so_ cool.

Any Linkin Park fans?
Entity
Thursday, October 4, 2001 06:02:19 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

*runs thru throwing confetti all over the place*

Happy Birthday, Patrick! =)
Jan
Thursday, October 4, 2001 05:52:05 PM
IP: modem19-174.mo-net.com

Happy Birthday Patrick!!!

>^,,^<
Mooncat
Thursday, October 4, 2001 04:12:03 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

** Niamhgold enters **

3000 keyframes DONE. Woo-hoo! Now on to methylchlorosothiazolinone, mutagenesis, and a comic review. I hope I can make it through the end of this day!

Little, tiny rant: I'm sick of the attitude that conventionalism is bad. Here at this school, it's "think outside the box"; "Illustration is the prostitution of the art world." Ugh. Maybe I want to think inside the box. I don't want to struggle to be "original", because that just means being a crappy conceptual sculptor or something. That's not me. I want to work for a *gasp* corporation and make *gasp* money ;) Is that such a horrible wish?

Anywayyyyyys....

Patrick: Happy twenty-seventh! ** Hugs ** Hopefully no one's planning on beating you up :)

Lain: <, i AM kinda doing work, i have the niftiest hand-held recorder and im wandering around campus collecting sounds for an audio art project> Lucky. Are you going to incorporate the sounds into an animation or something? <women arent supposed to go to war cos they are supposed to be barefoot and preferably pregnant in the kitchen at all times> Ah, the whole bun in the oven complex ;) <society really HASNT come that far along when it comes to gender steriotypes> A-men ;)

Siofra: Eng!!!! I love Exile...if my roomie hadn't already given me the soundfiles, I would take you up on this offer (even if it was primarily offered to Imzadi). Have you played/beaten the thing yet? Better yet, read the books?

The Man: <Sounds like the frontman of SW and the frontman of Third Eye Blind had a child and that child is singing> LOL. Happy music bites. It's for kids who think Barney is more than just a sex-starved guy in a giant purple foam suit. <God, I want to call this computer "Typhoon".> Ooh, has a wonderfully powerful ring to it...do it! <Unfortunately, I don't have such a great icon to go with that name> You could always cop out and use an actually graphic clip of a monstruous Typhoon. <"the sum of human knowledge to this point".> Try: "What's on the midterm?" "The sum of human knowledge to this point...but, because we're learning about the Dada and everyone knows the Dadaist ideals, the previous statement is worth absolutely nothing." Argh ;) <If all the secrets of women were available for just $14.97> And I take vitamin B-16 every day to cure the common cold! ;) <What I really want women to do is to look like the women in Maxim magazine 8-)> In remembrance of Zim, "I love my piggies" ;) <And this pig isn't touching a religious debate with a 40-foot pole> AT least _there's_ an intelligent decision. <Dude, I found Jesus just the other day. He goes by the name "hey-suess" and steal hubcabs from cars> Is that a Thomson of South Park reference? <If they were rocket scientists, they wouldn't be organs> Wait, did you mean "need"? In any case, their organs have all been replaced by mooing cans ;) <Besides, who worries about NIMDA anyway?> No one I know ;) <<<Depression is much more than just �being sad�>>: I know that. I've been there and had friends who were there. Maybe that's why I think its so simple> I think it's simple, but only in retrospect. I suppose clinical depression is inherent in those people who don't "mature" past a certain point of being depressed 24/7. I don't know, call me a traditionalist, but I am highly against using physical forms of healing (drugs, etc.) to solve mental illness. I'm even against psychiatry, in most cases. If you can't help yourself, how can anyone else help you? <Hey, if she values my opinion, anyone is good> I value the opinion of anyone who is honest with me. Just because the kids in my crits are knowledgeable about art doesn't make them more likely to be honest and effective in critique. ;) <Your huge post keeps me from studying!> Uh... <<<May I recommend a corkscrew? Or an electric drill, if you're in a hurry>>: I was gonna use a spoon> Well, there's always the one minute screw. <My schedule tomorrow goes something like this: office hours from 10-12, midterm from 2-330, review from 330-5, review from 5-630. Fun, huh?> Good luck, stay as sane as possible, and for the love of god do not anger the existentialist fish ;) <I'd like DirecTV to give me WB and UPN> I wish I could get COM :( <But the rest of the test was pretty easy. Now lets see what happens when I get it back...(tomorrow, I think).> I'm sure you aced it. Be sure to let us know! <that sounds like a good motto for when I take over the world> And with those new disintegrating bullets... <How many existentialists does it take to change a light bulb? FISH!> LOL You've made me laugh *twice* in one post. Your record's improving. <You don't know what pain IS!> Aingeal would argue that. <Well now that she's on them she's all lined up for acutane> Speaking of depression...you do realize how horribly controversial that shizzit is, right? <In time, everything> Wouldn't entropy suggest the opposite? <I'm sure my dad's X5 would have handled it nicely> Showoff ;) <Wuss> And you'd suggest...? <Hell, I carried my G4 up and down 4 flights of stairs...> Yeah, but even I have done that (no, not with a G4, but a system that's pretty much just as heavy) <You know me.> Or, rather, that _facet_ of you. ;) <Female computer geeks are usually nice> Yeah, much too nice for our own goods. Someone told me I was being much too nice just a few nights ago. He relented later ;) <Then that would be a BAD THING (TM).> Yes, much too nice...and perfect for the facade. <When you understand that, you'll have a complete map of how I tick.> Basic schematic, I'm sure. For women, you need 3D Studio Max. <Oh yeah? Well iDVD, iTunes, and iMac. Oh, and lets not forget iBook> Sorry, but that _didn't_ make me laugh ;) <You're thinking of a hard drivER ;-) > There we go :) <I'm shocked. I think that's the same reading when breasts jiggle, right?> I'm sure that's dependent on cup size. <That wasn't funny> So we're nearly even. <All of us? Kinky> Only when I learn to be less nice ;)

Wilek: <...(Did you know that Vampire Hunter D is supposed to be like 18? O_o)> Sadly, I knew this. But I'll forgive them ;) <Failing that, I bring a machete and a submachine gun (one Simply Does Not carry only one type of weapon).> LOL. That won't stop them. Now, a vial of Ebola... <What is with the fascination with mammaries?> Thank god a _guy_ is questioning this! :) <You can get the soundtrack at amazon.com> Buy? A soundtrack? Naw...who would commit such an act?!? <file this away and slap me in the face with it like a big stinky fish> What's with all the existentialism in here, lately? <It's just...burning behind my eyes> Um...help? <I've yet to forget the Mega Man related ideas that song conjured up> Heh. Well, the ripoff on "Rear Window" was always one of my faves as an ep.

Gside: <You're acutally listening to an engineer who repeatedly mentions Leda and the Swan?> I'm an illustration/animation major, remember? ;)

Aingeal: <oh no... not another one :p you and my BF would get along> Awww, come on, it's all about NIN ;) You're making it easier for him to take over the world!!! :) Good luck on your homework...keep working on the Celtic knots :)

Speaking of which...today's the day Ben Katchor reviews the work I submitted. I hope he doesn't rank on it too much :)
Adios and good luck to those in the midst of middies!
Niamhgold
Thursday, October 4, 2001 01:27:55 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

Entity: okie... wasn't quite sure... ::grins:: and as to tired... get some sleep and come back to join in ;)

Josh: <<Trent Reznor is god>> oh no... not another one :p you and my BF would get along. <> Oh... and here I wondered why the world was going to hell ;) <<Doesn't that feel great!?>> yes.. yes it will... <<Normally, I'd say something, but given recent events, I'll just shut the hell up.>> WTF? are you ill? ;) <<"Just assinine people".>> agreeed <<But unfortunately no modesty.>> modesty? I thought that referred to clothing ;) <<I'm sorry...is that wrong?>> Only when you forget to get back up to the higher level afterward <<Then, by definition, you do NOT have a good understanding of it.>> I have a good understanding of MY particular sect's Christian beliefs.... better dear<<SJ's exact point was that NOTHING can be learned from religious debates.>> Ahh... but there are things to learn.... like who is flexible and who isn't, and what subjects not to hit on in the future when discussing religion <<Oh...I'm not gonna touch that one...not this week, anyway.>> let me know when you do... this' I've got to see ::grin:: <<Kinky.>> you have no idea.. catnip does fun things to me... <<You, already, judging from your posts.>> Not hot under the collar.. just enthusiastic....and defensive on my intelligence since my rents tend to make me feel like an idiot.... ::shrug::

::looks at responses... i just qualified for a world record... i just agrteed on things with Imzy... ::gasp:: :p

ok...I go back to HW types... later

Aingeal
Thursday, October 4, 2001 12:55:26 PM
IP: 207.42.162.194

hey, look at me.. im supposed to be in class, cant you tell?
actually, i AM kinda doing work, i have the niftiest hand-held recorder and im wandering around campus collecting sounds for an audio art project. its fun, except that everyone thinks im the biggest wierdo ever for wandering around talking into my walkman.. ; )

patrick toman>> ye gods.. someone agrees with me on.. ANYTHING?! wow.. mark it on the calendar.. ; ) and no.. i havent read any madame destine fanfics.. : ( i have no time.. but when i get my internet connection later this week... BWA HA HA!!!! YOULL NEVER GET RID OF ME!!!!!!!!! ; )

*hugs josh and pinches his cheek* yeah, youre a pig.. but i still wuv u! (hee hee.. im gonna die soon, arent i? ; )) women arent supposed to go to war cos they are supposed to be barefoot and preferably pregnant in the kitchen at all times. okay, im kidding, moochie doesnt actually THINK that but this view comes from the same society who made blue "hotwheels" computers for boys and pink "barbie" computers for girls.. LAST CHRISTMAS.. and the hotwheels computers had extra math programs and the barbie ones had extra stuff on how to apply makeup. nope, society really HASNT come that far along when it comes to gender steriotypes..

entity>> youre my kinda guy.. *ethically challenged grin* you and i should gang up on moochie and marmalize his little god-fearin butt some day.. ; ) yes, that says marmalize.. im a brit, too, remember?

MOOCHIE>> GET A PASSPORT!! NOW!!! have you got one yet? WHATS TAKING SO LONG?! i mean.. not that id MIND if you got stuck in canada on thanksgiving and couldnt get back into your country but.. maybe your parents would mind if you were LIVING IN SIN with your feminist-non-christian-evil-corrupting-canadian-temptress girlfriend? maybe.. GO GET ONE!!

sj>> awww.. you were TRYING to bait me? well DUH! isnt that one of the main reasons for your existence? ; ) ..just kidding ; )
and yes, sj. people change. logic is stronger than animal instinct and that ability to recognize when something is wrong and change it is one of the things that makes us human, not just extra-smart monkeys. its when we whack stuff for no good reason and dont think about it or know the real reasons behind what is going on that we become pretty dumb monkeys.

metaldemon>> i like you to.. i seem to have a thing for guys from the deep south who have views exactly opposite from my own.. tee hee, when i get back online, we should chat, cos i love discussing religion, too.. cept from the other side ; ). yeah, and i read the book every day so youd better watch out, cos i usually know what im talking about.. ; )
i agree with you that an open mind is important in all things, and not jumping to conclusions is always a plus (as i found out myself, recently *glances at sj..* practice what you preach, huh lain?)

anyway, i must go out and pretend to be an alien that thinks cars are human for my crazy arts course. and get more wierd looks. yeesh, i love my life.. ; )

love,
lain "if i had a million dollars, id buy your love" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Thursday, October 4, 2001 10:50:08 AM
IP: sunrise.lib.uwo.ca

FireStorm>The comment about becoming the next Chyna was from Ravyn. I'm perfectly happy being me. I can already kick butt and take names quite well at this point. ;)

Later!
Kyryn
Dentont, TX
Thursday, October 4, 2001 10:33:25 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Hey folks! I'm still alive! Been really busy with projects and stuff at school, haven't had more than ten minutes to myself a day for the past week and a half, and the big rush isn't over until next Wed. No time for a real post right now, have two quizzes this afternoon that I need to go over the stuff for again. Hopefully next week will be less crazy and I'll actually be able to catch up in here.

Imzadi: I have all of the MP3's for the Riven soundtrack and the Exile soundtrack. If we can hook up in IM'er or something I can send them to you.

Okay, off to take a shower and go over my notes and stuff... See you all later!
Siofra - [siofra7@hotmail.com]
Ann Arbor, MI
Thursday, October 4, 2001 09:19:58 AM
IP: bursley-216-244.reshall.umich.edu

SJ- I KNOW I've seen that skit before, just can't quite recall where. I think it was Kids in the Hall, but...
Robby
Thursday, October 4, 2001 08:43:32 AM
IP: 129.115.236.107

Today is my birthday. I'm 27 today. So... that means three more years before I must start lying about my age, right? :: looks around to see if that cake he was expecting with Crzy inside it is anywhere in sight ::

So I leave for a short vacation tomorrow. I'm still pondering whether it will be worth it to take my laptop computer along and deal with trying to get it through the beefed-up security so I can use the five hours on the plane to work on fanfic. I _could_ just take a pen and some paper and work longhand... but that would almost seem like work then.

Lain > "being handcuffed doesnt AAAAAAAAALWAYS suck" -- Sounds like you've may have read Madame Destine's fanfics. Finally something I can agree with you on. ;)

Where was god? > I don't know where the Big Guy is, but I think his son is hosting a cable access show in South Park, Colorado. :: hops under a lighting rod ::

Yes, I'm feeling perky and irreverent this morning. >:)

"Jeezy Chreezy... what are they DOING down there?"
"Dad! Stop calling me Jeezy Chreezy!"
- Eddie Izzard
Patrick Toman
Thursday, October 4, 2001 06:52:05 AM
IP: ac994e52.ipt.aol.com

Hey all! CR info update will be delayed a little longer. LM and I are both JUST getting over that flu.

Got new glasses. Went to the doctor (clean bill of health! YES! No diabetes!). Learning Visual C++... just need to find the program.

I ain't gonna even BEGIN to read back through the archives to post to everything.

Enterprise: Intro sucks. Never saw Vulcan nipples (missed the second part)

Farscape: LM got me into this show...

Buffy: Ah, they brought her back too soon. I wanted to see more of the BuffyBot v1.0
Heck, I wanted to see v1.0 become more human.
But NO... lousy bio-centric society. No matter. It will all be replaced by xenomorphic and silicon perfection!
...
Er... I didn't just say that out loud, did I?

The... OTHER side.
I feel bad. Even though I have a nice one at home, I can't help but look at the... other side of life.
Every time I go to there, I am greeted with a smile.
Every time, I look, but feel so VERY wrong for even THINKING about it.
I mean, I am not that way. Really.
But... I look and I am tempted.
I just want to see what it would be like if I chose a... different path.
The two worlds seem so alike. So similar. But they have such different outcomes.
Mine is a world of joy and playing around. Theirs is a world that could lead to my suffering.
I spoke to LM about this and she dosn't completely agree, but she will support my decision.
I love her for that.
But could I live with myself for taking that other road?
Dare I?
Besides... it's only $699. Normally $1600.
Damn you, iMac laptop. Damn you!

Wilek: <You...are in need of repair. :P>
GATOMON! HentiDigivolve to... SEX KITTEN!
VEEMON! HentaiDigivolve to... TENTACLEMON!
;) Now... all I need is sketches to go with the written story.
(Note: Those scenes do NOT appear in the story.)
But you should see what I found on the web! People actually drew the DigiDestened having sex!
<virtually all of them...except television's finest moment, Rygel's S&M scene :D>
I WARNED YOU that if you EVER frelling mentioned that again, I would have to munch on your bones. Guess I am a calcivore!
<Had kind of a System Shock 2 vibe about it>
Ohh... I never thought of it that way...
Na... SHODAN wasn't around. Dosn't count! ;)
But man, both LM and I felt REALLY sorry for the diseased Leviathan and and it's pilot.
They still didn't need to die. :~(

I eat ANYONE... and not in a plesant way. In a "OW! OW! That's my spleen!" sort of way! Crunch crunch!
I love the taste of humans. Their iron blood so tickles my tongue. And the SO many hormones dance on my taste buds. Oh, and be hold the protien rich brain! It SO nourishes me and my children!
Ah... the CHILDREN! Always good for a quick snack! They are so trusting...
So curious...
It is almost wrong to snatch them for a meal.
Almost.

Gside: 
$4m3 7h|ng!

Imzadi: <No, IV was ten times better>
The Voyage Home? Na... give me First Contact any day.

Taleweaver: 
Bakula and the puppy are so far the best things about the series.
I hope the puppy has a chance to grow up. But I fear the puppy will die. :(
At least the puppy got some cheese! ;)

Hardware Question: Ok... USB and 1384 hard drives basicaily have a small hard drive controller in them, correct?
SO, is there any reason that there can't be multiple hard drive controllers on a single external device?
Trying to figure out the best way to get several (hundred) terrabytes for a special... "project".

Entity: <"Plan Dark Omega" -- spend five minutes to patch up all the errors in Windows>
Change the string BUGS=TRUE to BUGS=FALSE and SET_CRASH=RANDOM to SET_CRASH=FALSE

Anonymous=Austin, Texas

Christne: <Avalon Mists>
I have GOTTA write "The Quickening!" ;)
And finish the evil filk!

Aaron: <Speaking of odd webcomics... Clicky my name>
What really sucks is that I can't access any Keenspace server from home. :(
Which means I have to read Exploitation Now at work.

Xenatrek: <Could you email me privately your new email address? I greatly appreciate it.>
ACKNOWLEDGE//SUBMIT

Kyryn: <Actually, I'm going to try to become the next Chyna...>
Drat! When I first saw that, I read it as the next Chiana. Now THAT would have been cool!
But I prefer Zhann.
FIre Storm
Thursday, October 4, 2001 05:04:11 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

::listening to Stabbing Westward's self titled album::

I LOVE Stabbing Westward, but I'm afraid this album sucks. Darkest Days and Wither Blister were ten times better. Sounds like the frontman of SW and the frontman of Third Eye Blind had a child and that child is singing. I mean, where's the intensity? The anger? The depression?

I CAN"T LISTEN TO HAPPY MUSIC!

Otherwise, it wasn't such a bad day. I got yet another 512 MB of RAM for my tower, bringing the total to 1.5 gigs of RAM (the maximum for this particular model). God, I want to call this computer "Typhoon". I once saw a TLC show about the Typhoon-class submarine, and it said "this submarine has two of everyting: two props, two nuclear reactors..."

"this computer has two chips, two hard drives, two on-chip caches..."

Unfortunately, I don't have such a great icon to go with that name.

My friend Maneesh got to go see Alien Ant Farm tonight...and I had to stay home and study for midterms. I HATE midterms. With a passion. Its not like a final, where you know exactly what's gonna be on the test: EVERYTHING. With these, I have to guess what I'm gonna be tested on. Granted, it can't be anything but the material that we've covered in the last 5 weeks, but in a 50-minute exam, that leaves too much to chance.

At least I'm not an ECE. There's a CS professor here who says, in response to "what do we need to know for the midterm", "the sum of human knowledge to this point". God would THAT suck. And he asks random questions on his tests, too. Like "who sunk the Lusitania?". Would you expect to find that on a programming test!?

Interesting advertisement in the mail from the makers of Maxim Magazine: Maximum Sex. Apparently, I can get women to do anything I want. All I have to do is get a subscription and they throw in this free book.

Hmmm...lets see. If all the secrets of women were available for just $14.97...I'd know them by now. Because I was a lot more gullible when I was 14, and I definitely would have bought such a thing. Maybe I actually did, I don't remember.

The point is that I'm going to skip this one. Besides, I've got a full-proof way to make women do whatever I want: become undisputed dictator of Earth. Yeah, it'll be a bit more expensive, but I think the ends will justify the costs. Besides, I won't have to "hope" that it has the desired effect, like "Maximum Sex".

Besides, what I really want to do isn't make women do whatever I want. I'd rather they did whatever THEY want. What I really want women to do is to look like the women in Maxim magazine 8-)

Yes folks, I'm a pig. And proud of it.

And this pig isn't touching a religious debate with a 40-foot pole.

DPH: The good news is that your check cleared. The bad news is that your merchandise won't ship until next wednesday, because school is keeping me too busy to use the bathroom, let alone travel across campus to buy software and elsewhere to ship it. <>: I see. <<can anyone go besides me plot how Karl Marx lead to the internet>>: Hell no. <>: As soon as I ship it, you'll be the first to know. I'm sorry this is taking so long...kinda caught me at a bad time.

Kyryn: <<It's probably Doug/Kit>>: Now if only I had the motivation to go look through the archives and see if its the same IP.

Revel: Read your new story. It was good. Jeff/Degger is an interesting character. <<He wants to start a petition so that commercial airline pilots can carry sidearms>>: That sounds like a VERY bad idea unless they need to produce some sort of qualification to carry. <<unsatisfied women, sounds like a personal problem to me>>: I wouldn't know. <<now one can please anyone>>: I think you mean "no one can please everyone". Cuz I know what you said isn't true. <<how dare you try to profit from a gathering without me>>: I dunno, it sounds easy enough. Just don't tell revel 8-).

Winterwolf: <<How about if she poses for the life drawing instead>>: ::pinky to lips:: naked? <<Does Dennis know about this>>: If he did, would it matter? <<After that I tend to get uncomfortable in bed unless there�s something to prevent me from getting uncomfortable>>: Oversharing penalty. <>: I bet it was. It sounds horrifying. <>: You learn to dodge...quickly.

Aingeal: <<where was God? Why didn't he stop it from happening>>: I was right here. I was asleep. Sorry, my bad. <<along with turning in the company I bought it from to the better business bureau and Microsof>>: Doesn't that feel great!? <<i'm getting pissy>>: Normally, I'd say something, but given recent events, I'll just shut the hell up. <<there is no such thing as an assinine question>>: "Just assinine people". <>: But unfortunately no modesty. <>: I'm sorry...is that wrong? <>: Then, by definition, you do NOT have a good understanding of it. <<What the heck if that middle one?>>: He's nice. <>: SJ's exact point was that NOTHING can be learned from religious debates. <<debate of God being a woman>>: Oh...I'm not gonna touch that one...not this week, anyway. <<long time no poke>>: Kinky. <<who's hot under the collar about it?>>: You, already, judging from your posts.

Lain: <<women arent supposed to go to war.>>: WHY THE HELL NOT!? <<and write long run-on sentances in the CR>>: I don't think you'll ever get over that, what with your whole anti-punctuation/anti-capitalization thing. <<being handcuffed doesnt AAAAAAAAALWAYS suck>>: Yes, yes it does.

Lynati: <<Thom Adcox is barking at you like a dog>>: That explains a lot.

Aaron: <<The military would take one look at guys like you and me and know we'd never pass the physical>>: Speak for yourself. Passing the physical to get drafted is EASY. <>: Yes, I can. And I have. For days. <>: I only remember "no, I don't want that, you can have it". <<The Viking Pentathlon>>: I call it the Barbaric Pentathalon, but yeah. <<"Guy movie." No need to get fancy with it>>: Agreed. <<Short answer: It's complicated>>: Sounds perfect for Maxim's "The Taliban in 50 words or less" column. <<Where do you go to school again?>>: Goatee? Check. Long hair? Never. << could probably do that, if it was really an emergency. (And you promised to help make the minimums>>: I don't think a computer counts as an emergency. Bail is an emergency. <<Lynati's dealing Ecstacy now>>: Surprised? I'm not. <<Not unless Tinkerbell is magicking people across the water>>: That must be trippy. <<The fact that we've essentially stripped them of most of their decision-making power via federal sentencing guideline legislation makes no nevermind>>: So true. I miss the days when they could order death for jaywalkers. Oh well. When I am king... <<Something about humanity not functioning in Utopias>>: We wouldn't accept it. <>: I want several. <<W3 ownz j00>>: Only pest. <<Who does Galgarion look like from behind>>: Coldstone? <<Maybe we could combine the two and make the hunky guys fight>>: WE DON"T HAVE ANY!

::changes to stabbing westward's Wither Blister Burn Peel album::

Taleweaver: <<free will curtails one of god's three qualities: omnipotentence, omnibenifience, omniscient>>: The first one, I assume. <>: Well at least you're not afraid of it like SOME people ::glances at anonymous::

Entity: <<Not only does it exemplify the intellectual development of a five-year-old, not only does it betray ones total lack of understanding of Christian doctrine, but it is just plain hollow>>: NICE. Well said. <<Stabbing Westward is God>>: No, Trent Reznor is god. But Stabbing Westward is certainly one of his angels.

The Wizard: <<Stupid human organs>>: If they were rocket scientists, they wouldn't be organs.

Jan: <<Depression is much more than just �being sad�>>: I know that. I've been there and had friends who were there. Maybe that's why I think its so simple. <>: Maybe he was confusing you with me...since we're so similar 8-) <<they made him agree to buy lunch before they�d bring him all the way out!>>: LOL Brilliant! <>: I would too. <<The NIMDA virus is not a hoax, though. A friend of mine is head of computer security for Compaq has confirmed that this is indeed a very serious virus>>: Yeah, but NIMDA is a computer virus. Not a REAL virus. Besides, who worries about NIMDA anyway?

Metaldemon: <>: Massochist.

Gside: <<Study? What's that?>>: Obviously, I'm still trying to find out. <<I'm amazed they let me wald around even clothed.>>: If I get through the censors, anyone can. <<if only that were my problem>>: Heh. <<I thought it was to mug innocent old guys and spend the gold on a collection of ancient spells that could easily destroy a small kingdom if they were placed into the wrong hands - Hands such as mine very own>>: I'm gonna be needing those hands. <<it's my first one, and it's only in lab 0>>: Only in programming classes do we have "lab 0". <<engineers are classically more boring than programmers>>: Yeah but programmers smell worse. <<If it didn't happen, then I'd think something would be fundamentally wrong with the fabric of the universe>>: Just what we need. <<a new drug to combat "lack of sexual desire, lubrication problems, and difficulty achieving orgasm" for women>>: No, just kidding. THAT is what we need. <<You're acutally listening to an engineer who repeatedly mentions Leda and the Swan? >>: Hey, if she values my opinion, anyone is good.

SOROW: <<Are you saying my dancing is crap>>: HUH!? Where did THAT come from!? ::reads last post:: Oh, I see. No, that isn't what I meant. Obviously I've never even seen your dancing. But unless its stark naked, paying $30 for a video of ANYONE dancing would be an even more frivolous expenditure than my $4 monthly "bunny channel bill". Now, if it IS stark naked...let the bidding begin! Sit down, Aaron. You're banned from this auction.

SJ: <<We just wind up with long-winded arguments that don't go anywhere and just serve to tick people off>>: Sounds right up your alley. <>: See you there. You'll need a hand stamp to get into our party. <>: Huh!? <<We could start focusing on women's asses if it makes you feel better>>: No, I don't think we could. <<Especially since you're a blue gargoyle>>: He'd probably stick out more if he left the house. <<This ain't exactly revival central>>: Dude, I found Jesus just the other day. He goes by the name "hey-suess" and steal hubcabs from cars.

OKAY, GUESS *THAT* REFERENCE!

Wilek: Damnit! Your huge post keeps me from studying! <<one Simply Does Not carry only one type of weapon>>: Personally, I keep my wits about me at all times ;-) <<simply externalize my various issues to a greater extent than usual and hope the drafters don't want to risk internally-caused casualties>>: Ooh, good plan. <<Always a good idea>>: I'm thinking about doing it myself. <<useful as punctuation>>: F*CK. <<What is with the fascination with mammaries>>: I wish I knew. <<sending such big files on a dialup connection would be like trying to give birth to the Statue Of Liberty>>: LOL. Charming imagery, really. <<possibly MP3s at AudioGalaxy.com>>: I actually have the CD's around somewhere... <<slap me in the face with it like a big stinky fish>>: Shall I call you Susan? <<Miss Cleo ate my baby!>>: KILL THE BITCH! <>: LOL. Your bad. <>: Where did you learn to talk dirty!? <<just send him back to his homeland in a few dozen matchboxes>>: Those are some tiny parts. <<Those people have no sense of humour>>: But apparently you do. <<There's a Freud birth trauma thing going on here>>: We spend nine months trying to get out and the next 75 years trying to get back in. <>: There's a museum of torture in Rome. <<If that isn't a party song, I don't know what is>>: Well I'm gonna vote against "Who Let the Dogs Out". <<What does it say about me that the stuff *I* think about every seven seconds would cause Lovecraft to slit his throat?>>: Says you're psycho. <<Marx > Communism > the Cold War > nuclear proliferation > the need for a communications network that could potentially survive a nuclear exchange > the Internet>>: Impressive! <>: Me neither, and I've got two! <<They're one reason my next computer's processor will be an Athlon>>: But...eh, nevermind. <<They're giving him a love interest. Gah>>: Disney: Welcome to the real world, where chicks do not fall in love with hunchbacks. <>: I knew you would. <>: I'm certain he doesn't. <<No OS can have all its errors patched...the fixes create more errors. :) (I once saw an IMac frozen while booting up>>: That's nothing. I once booted up a frozen iMac ;-). Nah, just kidding. But I've seen my bro's iMac do some F*CKED UP things. I fixed them, naturally. Now it has zero hard crashes. Impressive, huh? <<one of those characters is shown to be...Goliath>>: God forbid he should actually get some CLOTHING! <<Kill An Idiot For Charity Day>>: Ooh I like that one! Can it be every day!? <<you couldn't get mauled by a tiger while walking down the street>>: Just yesterday... <<And boy was that a fun brainstorming session>>: LOL! <<could be so eager to chain their minds to their bodies>>: Sometimes its fun to let go. <<So how much of his face did you manage to tear off before he escaped?>>: I bet she let him. <<May I recommend a corkscrew? Or an electric drill, if you're in a hurry>>: I was gonna use a spoon. <<wonders how MM would fare against the Particle Crasher and the Vertex Cutter>>: I'd imagine the same way he'd fight against QuickMan and CutMan. <>: MYOB = Mind Your Own Business. <<Does it enjoy pain and tire chains and Hostess Twinkies>>: Two out of three, in my case. <<We're finally going to be inflicted upon the normals>>: ATTENTION: DO NOT FEED THE NORMALS. <<There are no words for how stupid these people are>>: Yes there are. "Incredibly, very, and really". <<it's a small price to pay for safety from subhuman maggots like the KKK Jr Club>>: So is the cost of ammunition.

Okay folks, my brain hurts from studying. My schedule tomorrow goes something like this: office hours from 10-12, midterm from 2-330, review from 330-5, review from 5-630. Fun, huh?

GOOD NITE.

Why do I always smell bread?
-Dreamie, at Gathering 2001

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, October 4, 2001 02:37:11 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

SJ> <<This ain't exactly revival central.>> And I completley agree with you. Though I don't think this religious conversation was an attempt to convert anyone.

metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Thursday, October 4, 2001 02:35:25 AM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Aingeal> Sorry I can't be more argumentative (usually I thrive on this stuff). I'm tired. So I'll take the lazy way out and just clarify what you might or might not already know, that when I called the question of "Where was God Sept. 11?" asinine, I did not have you in mind. I had the hypothetical poser of the question in mind. You yourself presented the question objectively, and then went on to answer it in the same vein as I... 'addressed' it... just less bluntly. I wasn't calling into question YOUR intellect, etc. but that of this hypothetical (but very real, as I know from experience) person.

Re: Metaldemon> Yes! See, now that's the view I think is more constructive. WHY can't people change their beliefs? I've found my ideas and statutes called into question, even bent, by the reasoning and viewpoints of the CR. We're all a bunch of diverse, intelligent people, so why can't we look at this as an exchange, and ultimately, something beneficial? In any case, I agree that the delicacy that religion is treated with is over-the-top. Why can't we just put down our guns? We can all be big boys and girls and "take it in stride." Hopefully, though, by discussing these things, we do more than just "take" other peoples' arguments. Hopefully, they affect us. We let them affect us. That isn't being weak, it's being thoughtful and reflective and reasonable and human.
Entity
Thursday, October 4, 2001 02:23:06 AM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

SJ: who's hot under the collar about it?
Aingeal
Thursday, October 4, 2001 01:54:01 AM
IP: 207.42.162.149

This post is largely in honor of Wilek.

Wilek: <> I miss a daily dose of Wilekian Wackiness �. <<Did you know that Vampire Hunter D is supposed to be like 18?>> A teenager? No matter to me. I respect anyone who carries around a sword that's bigger than they are. <<What is with the fascination with mammaries?>> We could start focusing on women's asses if it makes you feel better. ;) <> Urotsokudoji? Demons, and tentacles, and lots of nasty stuff that would make you have an aneurism, then sick the Cenobites on the anime's creators. Not recommended viewing for all the good little Wileks in the world. <<Brak rocks. He is my newest spiritual advisor.>> I have a feeling the world would be a better place if we all followed the spiritual teachings of Brak. <<Haven't seen the trailer, but I think I shall like the action figures.>> If you at all liked the novels, or even are a fan of D&D type fantasy stuff, you'll lose your damn geek mind watching it. <<Is Tim Burton's version of the Joker as cool as the animated one?>> Hmm. I'm going to say no, he isn't. Nicholson does a great job, and (naturally) he was more homicidal than the cartoon Joker (the only time we really get to see the cartoon Joker off someone for real is in Mask of the Phantasm), but the animated Joker just had more room for character analysis and growth. Plus he was voiced by Mark Hamill (apparently on acid) and had a cute sidekick in Harley Quinn. So I'd vote for the animated Mista J. <<The Nickelodeon kids' sci-fi series Space Cases.>> I *remember* that show. Seems to me, it predated Farscape. But you're right, there are similarities to the two shows. <<Is it from some animated series?>> I'm not telling. ;) Think classic slapstick comedy. <<Archbishop Sascha Vykos are among my more influential clients>> If there's one thing I've learned, it's don't mess with transsexual vampire mages who are well versed in the art of Vicissitude. I'm not wasting *my* formative years as a War Ghoul. <<Which is why that show annoys me. I'm no stickler for realism, but I refuse to accept that a main-sequence corporeal being could store and direct that much energy without tearing itself apart. (Hmm...they gesture this way, and the energy flows there, they gesture toward a foe, and the energy consumes him...strings lead from their limbs
into the ether, and they think they are doing the pulling...)>> You're forgetting the most important part about DBZ: All major fights must last 2894 episodes in length. It's a contractual obligation. <<They're scarier than that little demon possessed teddy bear that works for Domino's.>> Are you talking about Bad Andy? Thank God I'm not the only one who felt that way. Bad Andy is the most horrifying doll this side of Chucky. <<Peter Pan. (Which Disney's going to be doing a sequel to soon. And no, it *won't* be direct to video. The mouse has lost it's mind)>> Damn, I haven't mentioned this yet, but I should. Did you all know that in this sequel to Peter Pan, that CAPTAIN HOOK FIGHTS THE NAZIS??? He does. It's no joke. The mouse really has lost it's mind. <<Virtually everyone in my neighborhood is white. They are boring. They are sooo boring.>> Especially since you're a blue gargoyle. At least you add flavor to the community. ;)
<<question for you or SJ or Mara or anyone else here who knows the first thing about wrestling: What is this about 'storylines'? Since when has a sport (well, almost a sport) had a plot? O_o>> Well, now I'm going to show just how pathetic of an existence I live, because I can answer your question in depth, since I know way more about pro-wrestling than any human (outside of actually working in the business) has a right too. Back in the mid-to-late 80s, Vince McMahon (who owns the WWF, in case you didn't know) was having to pay a hell of a lot of money in taxes to the states he promoted wrestling events in, because the events were labeled as "sports". Of course, they were fake, but they got taxed as if they weren't. So, basically, Vince just exposed the business by admitting it was all fake, and dubbing the business "sports entertainment" (which, depending upon how hardcore a wrestling fan you are, can be considered a rather dubious distinction), with the emphasis being mainly on entertainment. And presto, no more huge taxes. He's a business genius, that Vince (if you forget the XFL). The storylines? Well, that's part of sports entertainment. You can't just go out there and have two guys fight each other, now you gotta add stories to the mix. So there you go. If you ever have a wrestling question again (and I doubt it), come to me, because I'm embarrassed to say it but I'll most likely have an answer for you.

Metaldemon: <<We just wind up with long-winded arguments that don't go anywhere and just serve to tick people off.>> You mean like the pacifist argument that you commented on yourself.>> Now, that was different.
I was TRYING to bait lain. That was the purpose of my long-winded argument about pacifism.
The religious debate, though, this already seems like it's already making some people hot under the collar, without even trying too hard. As for conversions....I'm talking about in here. This ain't exactly revival central.

New York City Folks: Remember - Iris loves you.

Maybe Mara gets that one�.

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Thursday, October 4, 2001 01:50:36 AM
IP: 66-44-57-226.s480.tnt2.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

SJ> <<No one ever changes their mind. The atheists don't start believing in the Almighty, the believers don't stop believing in their God(s).>>
That's a gross understatement. I know someone who converted to Catholicism after being Wiccan; I know someone who went form Atheist to religious. Have you ever heard of Sepultutra? Their singer used to be Atheist, now he's really religious.
There's nothing wrong with a religious discussion so long as you're a thoughtful individual who doesn't mind an oppossing view.
<<We just wind up with long-winded arguments that don't go anywhere and just serve to tick people off.>>
You mean like the pacifist argument that you commented on yourself. Of course, me being ticked off at being called a facist and voicing this concern sure didn't stop anyone from continuing their pacifism=facism argument.
I took it in stride, so others can take the God argument in stride.

metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Thursday, October 4, 2001 01:26:29 AM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

WB Wilek... long time no poke ::grins and pokes::

Aingeal
Thursday, October 4, 2001 01:04:50 AM
IP: 207.42.162.149

<<the kind that tend to set of months of fruitless police investigation>> That's set OFF months of etc. Gods I'm getting slipshod.
Wilek "The Incredible Idiot From Space" Nereus
Thursday, October 4, 2001 12:55:30 AM
IP: host130.the-cloak.com

I keep promising myself that I will post in here more often, and I keep forgetting and getting swept up in other responsibilities. Le sigh.

Robby> <<Just discovered an interesting little fact... Yesterday marked the 11th anniversary of the debut of Tiny Toon Adventures. Wow. Was it really that long ago? And I remember watching the premiere too!>> You too? Gods I feel old. <<Although a few of those Tenchi lemons, even MSTed, made me queasy for a few days... One of them actually made me throw up...>> Yow. O_o The only erotica I've read was a paragraph from an FF7 porn fic that was displayed on somethingawful.com to explain why the site was featured to be made fun of/gagged at as an Awful Link. And frankly, the story's grammar and spelling were so hilarious that I didn't have time to get ticked off at the author, I was laughing too hard... <<Pokemon porn... Creeped me out when I first discovered it. I've managed to convince myself in the time since that the characters are several years older than they seem to be in the English version, so that they aren't 10, but 14 or 16 or something and that helps some...>> Huh. If anything, I thought they'd be younger than they looked, as a lot of anime heroes are...(Did you know that Vampire Hunter D is supposed to be like 18? O_o) <<Now a knife blade made of energy might be a different matter entirely...>> [Wilek emits one of his patented evil grins, then requisitions 1,000 lightsabers for his Razor Sylphs.]

SOROW> <<And I officially got drunk off my ass for the first time last night. It was horrible, I had about 8 shots of Vodka mixed with V8. And I threw up all over my friend's bed! How embarrassing!>> Ack. O_o Hope you feel better...

Imzadi> <<good names for drinks>> How about Moment Of Blindness? <<Many of our friends were virgins ("Mommy, what's a rocky virgin?") and my friend Vinay really got embarrased when they chose him to be the final virgin sacrifice (Let's just say he had to, uh...fake...on stage).>> This is why, if I ever am roped into seeing this thing, I will practice lying convincingly. Failing that, I bring a machete and a submachine gun (one Simply Does Not carry only one type of weapon). <<<<what a horrible world we would be living in if that were the case>>: I'd commit suicide. You?>> Put an end to the world that would allow such a thing to happen. <<<<God wouldn't cuss either.>>: I cuss all the time.>> Your point? ;) <<That said, if there *IS* a draft, I'll be dodging it.>> With any luck, I won't need to 'dodge' it; simply externalize my various issues to a greater extent than usual and hope the drafters don't want to risk internally-caused casualties (I don't take well to captivity). <> I'm glad we don't live near each other--I react to practical jokes the way Vlad Tepes (a personal hero of mine...to no one's surprise) would react to being mooned, if he'd had nuclear weapons at his disposal. Muha. <<They've evolved their own universe.>> Always a good idea. <<You may not think so, but sometimes profanity is very useful for conveying emotion, which is critical in a room like this.>> True...it can be infantile when overused (and uniquely easy to overuse...), but useful as punctuation. <<not having a single shirt for any band. At least not one that I'd wear in public.>> I have a few shirts that I later became aware were associated with bands. O_o <<But guys are ALWAYS thinking about sex.>> Speak for yourself. ;) <<When you've got boobs like that...>> I'm genuinely curious about this: What is with the fascination with mammaries?
Oh, and if I remember correctly, you asked a while back about Riven MP3s? I have the soundtrack, but I'm unable to get the MP3s to you--sending such big files on a dialup connection would be like trying to give birth to the Statue Of Liberty. You can get the soundtrack at amazon.com, and possibly MP3s at AudioGalaxy.com, but if that isn't an option, file this away and slap me in the face with it like a big stinky fish if I ever march in here crowing about a new cable modem. :)

Fire Storm> <> <twitch> <twitch twitch> You...are in need of repair. :P <<Speaking of Pokemon, check out the comic at my link.>> Huh. I always thought Pokeballs were more like transporter buffers/stasis thingies? <<A comic that predicted the future.>> Holy. Living. Frell. O_O

SJ> <<Unless the fic is slash, in which it says you WILL be going to hell. ;)>> I dunno, Weregarurumon is quite the piece of work. 8P j/k <> <starts to say something, then falls to the floor laughing> <<And I thought Urotsokudoji was pretty sick stuff.>> I saw that anime mentioned in the Rise Of The Triad player's guide. What's it about? <<The other thing I wish we would do, but I don't think we will, is to seriously consider using biological weapons.>> um. For once, I have to disagree with you...it'd be too easy for disease weapons to backfire on us. O_o <<You math geeks frighten and confuse me with your silly numbers>> You too? I have no head for math. I'm more of a creative thinker. [A glowing seven eyed octopus with three mouths and a propeller hops into the room holding a sign in its claws that says "Miss Cleo ate my baby!" and singing Daisy Daisy in Japanese.] Like that, but with more guns. <<"Ohhhhh, I'm a jolly spud, and people call me Bud, I live down in the mud, with all the other tumors!" ---Brak, "The Potato Song">> Brak rocks. He is my newest spiritual advisor. He's like me but stupider (no small feat). <<the guy who got skull in the Oval Office?>> I'll be doing that when I take ov--oh, you mean THAT. I was thinking of encasing my enemies' skulls in crystal. Any environment can benefit from the presence of a skull or two. <<Do you agree with me that "Transformers: Robots in Disguise" both sucks AND blows?>> Never seen the show, but the toys are transcendently cool. I especially like Megatron's jet mode, and Prowl just rocks (although I do prefer the Japanese names). (Are the Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus toys as cool as I've heard?) <<There's probably a bunch of Muppets running around as well.>> Nah, Fantasy Land isn't cool enough for Muppets. Kermit and his offspring Rygel (shoulda used prophylactics with those Furby escorts, Kermie) wouldn't be caught dead there. <> Eh. I've always found that end of the alimentary process uniquely oogy. To think, all my delicacies, turned into *that*. Nature goes out of its way to throw its inefficiencies in our faces yet again. But the more immediate concern is that it would fertilize the ground, and I don't think anyone wants flowers growing on Bin Laden's grave. Maybe use it as a toxic waste dump and orgy ground (thus correcting a number of problems). <<Stick to just the offers of free drugs and sex, cause those always go over well.>> Aren't those almost singlehandedly responsible for the sudden upswing of once-exotic STDs? (Not that the loose soldiers returning from Korea and Vietnam helped matters much...) <<He spent most of his time giving speeches about how he didn't know oral was really sex>> I thought anything that involved the wibbly bits getting all throbbity counted? <<Next time a suspicious, evil-looking Arabic gentleman shows you his genitalia, maybe you shouldn't insult him right away, huh?>> Nah--just send him back to his homeland in a few dozen matchboxes. <<Hell, every cool thing that Ash has ever said in the Evil Dead films has been stolen by Duke Nukem. Disgraceful.>> True...I kind of like the game (I have a nostalgic fondness for the BUILD engine), but Duke himself...annoys me. He's like America's answer to Austin Powers. I much prefer Caleb. <<My�.God. And that's about it. That's what it was. That trailer for me was a friggin' religious experience. That trailer was better than almost every movie I've seen this summer�.just the trailer! I mean, you get to see the Hobbits�..and Legolas, and Gimlie, and Aragorn, and the RingWraiths, and Ian McKellen is perfect as Gandalf, and you see the Orcs, and the Cave Troll, and by God, even a portion of the Balrog is shown!!!>> Haven't seen the trailer, but I think I shall like the action figures. <<At this point, I'm trying to decide whether or not to cannibalize someone.>> Red wine, not white, and whatever you do, don't forget the garlic salt. Nothing is complete without garlic salt. <> I have been ever since really getting into the Joker's head in the NML novel. I like him. He thinks like me. (Is Tim Burton's version of the Joker as cool as the animated one? I'm thinking yes, since I adore all his movies that I've seen, but I figured I should ask someone who's actually seen this particular movie...I've only seen the sequel.) I've also recently become enamored of the Elseworlds comics (I, Joker is an absolute masterpiece). <<if I start seeing blue-skinned cleric aliens or living biomechanoid prison ships show up on Enterprise, I will hunt the writing team down>> You know what REALLY ripped off Farscape? The Nickelodeon kids' sci-fi series Space Cases. Check it out sometime and you'll see what I mean. Living ship, diverse crew who don't quite get along, lost via spatial anomaly out where the wild things are...well, actually, I'm not sure which came first, but the similarities are striking. (Except Space Cases is fairly dumb compared to Farscape. Of course, there's not much that isn't...) <<And to everyone, for a good laugh, check out The Onion. I've linked the site to my name.>> Couldn't help noticing this: "placed on a spit so that their flesh could be roasted by the searing gale of flatus which issues forth from the haunches of Asmoday." I just felt that that had to be commented upon, just to make sure I wasn't hallucinating it or something. (And I love that phrase 'searing gale of flatus'. It'd be a good name for an album.) <<HULK SMASH PUNY HUMAN!!!>> FUTON <<this reference is for you WoD fans: [spoilerectomy] is now a Sabbat. Welcome to service in the Black Hand, babe.>> Coolies. I'd better steer clear tho'; the packs have been unhappy with me since I went to the fire dance carrying an extinguisher. Those people have no sense of humour. <<Niagra Falls! SLOWLY I TURN!!!!>> That catches at a memory somewhere. Is it from some animated series? (Those were all I watched until the early 90s.) <<Points in the afterlife to whomever gets the reference:>> It has a Monty Python sound to it?

Lynati> <<My CD's are missing.>> ACK!!!! OO_O_O_O_OO Hope you've just misplaced it, where you can get it easily...<<no stream of consciousness with fishies swimming in it>> You don't wanna know what's swimming in mine...<<Brushes out through the fabric gate>> There's a Freud birth trauma thing going on here. :P <<I've reverted to the two-braid thing again; I noticed unusual amounts of my hair falling out again. And my gums are swollen. *sigh* I wish I was glazing my work, and could thus blame this on lead fumes or something. But no. I am once again afflicted by this and irrational leg pains once more. and I can't find my ankle braces; it's a good thing I have ace bandages.>> Ack...O_O What could be causing this, and what else is ready to fall off? o_o' Here's hoping that whatever it is clears up soon...

Christine> <<I've sent the big blue bastid to Hell>> You rang? I offer consultation services dealing with a wide variety of physical and psychological torments. My credentials are many and varied; the Cenobites, assassin Zarles Krieger, and Archbishop Sascha Vykos are among my more influential clients, and I am singlehandedly responsible for designing the Hell Of Being Vivisected In A Curiously Slow Manner for the realm of Yomi Wan. <<Ah, for the good old days of psychiatric care, when you could have a phrenology model on your desk, rely on opiates for medications, strap-and-dunk hydrotherapy ...>> I wish I could have tried out my greatest invention at the time (sort of a cross between a zoetrope and a sewing machine, with a rubber duckie stuck on somewhere) before the patients drew and quartered me. (An experience I recommend against, BTW. Bad for your skin.) Sometimes I wonder what happened to that thing. Probably in the Museum Of Questionable Medical Devices by now. Philistines. <<it's when they start trying to control him and censor and restrict him that things really take a dark and awful turn.>> Agreed--instead of merely 'containing' him like wimps, they should have fed him to Madame Guillotine and been done with him. <sings> Now come let our lady possess you/In her breathtaking, hair-raising bed/She'll tingle your spine, as she captures your heart and your head! >:D (If that isn't a party song, I don't know what is. Well, for my kind of parties, the kind that tend to set of months of fruitless police investigation.)

Gside> <<EMP with no boom (or a small boom).>> No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. BOOM! <<<>: Not Constantinople. Sorry, I had to say it.>> I love that song! ^_^ <<We've started setting the CPU after itself in Smash Bros.>> You have NO idea how gratifying it is to finally find someone else these days who is not only a Nintendo gamer but an N64 gamer. 8D I was beginning to fear that me and Rav were the last ones left...Hey, are yez getting a Gamecube? I think I shall like SSB Melee and Eternal Darkness, among others... <> It's true, owing to the fact that sheep can hear zippers. <rimshot> j/k <> What does it say about me that the stuff *I* think about every seven seconds would cause Lovecraft to slit his throat? <<<<How many existentialists does it take to change a light bulb? FISH!>>: I thought it was Dadaists.>> Need I even say that I thought it was Malkavians? ;P

Gunjack> <<*Boogies on into the room, grooving to the Gorillaz "19-2000" video*>> Is that the one with the undead dancing monkies?! 8D

DPH> <<if you did acquire those robots, I've have to give Wilek the same amount you have.>> And since he's part of my conspiracy, that would give us double the normal amount. Thanks dude. >;) <> Which is why that show annoys me. I'm no stickler for realism, but I refuse to accept that a main-sequence corporeal being could store and direct that much energy without tearing itself apart. (Hmm...they gesture this way, and the energy flows there, they gesture toward a foe, and the energy consumes him...strings lead from their limbs into the ether, and they think they are doing the pulling...) <<How fast would gargoyle travel at a continous velocity to avoid being turning into stone?>> It couldn't happen--biopetrifaction is controlled by the metabolism rather than directly by sunlight. It's keyed to sunlight, but in its absence, some internal mechanism takes over. (I think.) <<in case of military draft, can I get support from members of the CR establishing my lack of sanity?>> Sure. (How bout me?) <<I'm not musically inclined, except to modify existing lines.>> I'm kind of the opposite...I can think up great melodies (at least, great in that I like them...I try to only create things I like), but lyrics are kind of a struggle for me. I'm bad at finding rhymes. (No matter how much I work on my lyrics for Calling From Heaven, it still sounds kind of cheesy...) <<This can't be. They're already repeating episodes of Farscape.>> It comes back next year, and the repeats give me time to catch up on back eps I missed (virtually all of them...except television's finest moment, Rygel's S&M scene :D ). I loved one of the more recent ones...the one with the diseased Leviathan. So creepy--gibbering zombies, rotting halls, a pain-crazed Pilot begging to be put down, and that wasn't even the most disturbing stuff. Really cool. Had kind of a System Shock 2 vibe about it. <<By the way, why do we associate right with the color 'White' and wrong with the color 'Black'?>> I think it's a primordial thing relating to nighttime, back when our only artificial light was a tree branch we'd set on fire with a couple sticks. Relating to this, a black object finds it pretty easy to hide, and humans seem to instinctively fear that which can easily hide from them. More symbologically, it seems that white is a beginning and black is an ending--the white cloth can be dyed, the white wall can be painted, but the black cloth or wall will pretty much always be that color (hence, I guess, 'black sheep'). (I tend to associate darkness with good and light with evil, though. Think--the darkness before birth, nurturing, hiding from the evils of the outside, while bright light can burn and blind...) <<can anyone go besides me plot how Karl Marx lead to the internet?>> My take: Marx > Communism > the Cold War > nuclear proliferation > the need for a communications network that could potentially survive a nuclear exchange > the Internet.

Green Baron> <<Paris has too much nice stuff in it to risk destroying, like the Louvre, teh Eifel Tower, Notre Dame.>> Not to mention the Catacombs. <> Conan the Accountant. I like. ;P Don't you have to own a loincloth and a sword to qualify for barbarian status? (Sadly, I don't; I couldn't bear to cut up my leather jacket.) <<these are laid back cajuns from France before tehir stupid revolution>> France was cool then. Not sure what the whole Sun King bit was about tho'. <<Scary Movie II>> Is it as awful as the first? Because I kind of liked the trailer...whoever made that was an obvious fan of The 7th Guest. ^_^

Aaron> <<I'm actually looking for a decent MP3 site. Anybody know any?>> remix.overclocked.org, www.fmcavern.com. Also try www.gamingforce.com/audio, if you can get it to download, as I can't. O_o <<Hey, don't be dissin' the Blue Man group. ;)>> And why not? They look like serial killers. They're scarier than that little demon possessed teddy bear that works for Domino's. They're one reason my next computer's processor will be an Athlon. <<Peter Pan. (Which Disney's going to be doing a sequel to soon. And no, it *won't* be direct to video. The mouse has lost it's mind)>> That's nothing. Heard about the sequel to Hunchback Of Notre Dame? They're giving him a love interest. Gah.

Tim Phipps> <<YOU WANT IRRATIONAL, BITCH?!!>> I like you.

Jan> Nimda> YOW! O_O_O_O_OO__O_O <downloads removal tool, lets it scan, is relieved when it comes up negative> <<hmmmm.. anyone recommend a good anti-virus program for me?>> I think the removal tool is the only one that works for Nimda. Still, for mundane viruses, Mcafee or Norton seem pretty good (granted, this isn't my area of expertise...). <<I heard from teacher friend of mine that the principal at my old school... she has insulted some parents so much that several of them now refuse to meet with her without a witness present! *falls over laughing* go moms!! hehe Rumor has it that she's in deep do-do with the school district these days. It's about time!>> Finally...too bad you had to take so much scheisse from her before that could happen. >:/ <> OK, I'm likely to find myself on the recieving end of a jyhad because of this, but...from what I've seen at Delta Blues, I'm not sure why everyone complains about Voyager. O_o <<It was great pleasure that I entered this warrant. The police were leaving to go pick him up as I left work for the day. I did overtime to make sure the warrant was entered.>> You're a very strong person; I would have been unable to resist hunting the guy down myself...

Ravyn> <<Actually, I'm going to try to become the next Chyna...>> With the muscles and everything? W00t! :D Still, steroids are a bad idea as to going about it. You might try a modifed clone body and a soul transfer engine. We haven't perfected the latter yet, but we're getting there.
BTW...question for you or SJ or Mara or anyone else here who knows the first thing about wrestling: What is this about 'storylines'? Since when has a sport (well, almost a sport) had a plot? O_o

Entity> <<But to me, it's like the old adage of praying before a sports game: why do you think God will favor one team over the other?>> I honestly don't think He gives a flip about sports. <<But in this case, I feel more like it is: why do we need God to bless us?>> Because in times like this, we need all the help we can get. If He exists (which I believe...odd isn't it? ;P), then I believe He vehemently disapproves of the terrorist attacks and will aid attempts to bring the perpetrators to justice (granted, He doesn't do ten plagues or rains of brimstone much anymore...I quite like His recent taste for subtlety; it's rather trickstery and keeps people guessing). If He does not exist, then what is lost in prayer? It's a boost to courage and self confidence if nothing else, and if there's a time for that, it's now. <<Was anyone else aware that the Grimorum Arcanorum is REAL? As in, it is supposed to actually exist, according to lore, in the vaults of the Vatican or somesuch, and is reportedly a book of dark evil?>> Woah. O_o Must check this out... <<spend five minutes to patch up all the errors in Windows.>> No OS can have all its errors patched...the fixes create more errors. :) (I once saw an IMac frozen while booting up...)

Catharsis> I can't hold this in anymore. If I don't rant about this, it will drill out of my skull and eat my eyeballs. Which isn't as cool as it sounds. There is this...commercial...on Toon Disney. Maybe some of you have seen it. It's the announcement for a very dull animated series called Doug. It depicts several of Toon Disney's other franchise stars in the same kind of green sweater that Doug wears...imagine my surprise when one of those characters is shown to be...Goliath.
...I'm sorry, did I say surprise? I meant burning seething boiling suppurating KILLING RAT MADNESS. It's just...burning behind my eyes, pressing against the inside of my skull, waiting, howling, shrieking its impatience, begging for me to kill and kill and kill and KILL AND KILL AND KILL AND KILLKILLKILLKILLKILLGYYYYYAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [To silence the screaming in his head, Wilek tears out Mr. Disconnect's throat and feeds it to him.]

Carolynn Marie> <<though I did briefly wonder where the hand went ... did he eat it?? :D>> I seem to remember one panel of Sluggy Freelance where Bun-Bun tricked Hannibal into eating his own butt. <<The house has been gutted and now resembles a skeleton; unpacked suitcases still languish on all three stories and creepy staircases and doors lead to nowhere except unused attics and old servants' quarters. Think of the abandoned house in "Fight Club" and the creepy townhouses in "The Sixth Sense", then combine them.>> Cooool...8D <<Make your own holiday>> National Abbatoir Day? Kill An Idiot For Charity Day? Octopus Worship Day? Drive Nails Into Your Head While Screaming Gibberish Day? Drive Nails Into The Head Of A Gibberish Screaming Idiot With An Octopus In An Abbatoir For Charity Day? <<I thought it interesting that people FLIPPED when Fight Club premiered because it was too graphic due to punching fists ... but a movie depicting decapitation, mass slaughter, and man-eating tigers won an Oscar. Go fig.>> I think because Gladiator was less 'realistic'...you couldn't get mauled by a tiger while walking down the street (unless you live near me...well, it hasn't been a tiger, really, since the experiments started), but people get into fights much like the ones in Fight Club all the time.

Warpmind> <<*Warpmind enters, brandishing what appears to be a firearm that could be devised most likely only by the collective twisted geniuses of Riff, Wilek Nereus and Nikola Tesla.*>> And boy was that a fun brainstorming session. "Was that portal supposed to open?" "Let me check my notes..." "You can't; he made little beheaded paper dolls out of them." "Hey don't make me use my cattle prod." "And just who do you think invented it, little boy blue? <ZAP>" <<Guys, gals... found a link that shows great potential... I think I just found the means for the Nereus Project to conquer the world. }:)>> They...actually accomplished this...with Terran technology...?!!! 8O And here I thought we were barely past stone knives and bear skins. <<Imagine the realities I had to tweak to get versions of them to even *cooperate*...>> I don't know; I quite like them. Riff's obsession with beer and Baywatch can be infuriating, but that's what ice crushers are for (don't ask where they'd be used).

Aingeal> <<the new ST theme may have competetion from the Original series.... appaerntly there are wds to that that weren't played...>> Scarily enough, I've read them...fortunately I don't remember where. O_o

Fleur> <<We�re tiny, we�re tooney. We�re all a little looney And in this comment roomey, We�ve lost our sanity! [etc]>> That was...deranged. I like. 8) <<When it comes to the Taliban, I'm all for just ripping it out by the roots.>> =...I'll crush them.= Tifa, FF7 <<For those who are wondering, yes, I do run on solar batteries.>> Unfortunate, given the unreliable nature of solar collection. I'll try to hook you up with a nice biogenic reactor, as soon as I can get them to stop spawning inversion rifts. <<most computer geeks are a$$holes because they're really jaded because of wrongs in the past>> That's the kind of a$$holicality that I think I can tolerate...I've heard the most ghastly and horrifying things about what the Consensus at the typical government school is capable of doing to enforce the worship of stupidity...<<It's hard to accept a person's (this also applies to men in general; if you guys think about sex so often, how can we *ever* take you seriously? ;)) logic if they're being ruled by those monthly raging hormones.>> I am so glad I threw that entire issue out an airlock. Sometimes I wonder how others (other men at least; the female reproductive system is a somewhat more complex matter) could be so eager to chain their minds to their bodies. <<that didn't stop the guys last week from some freakin' hard-core *groping*>> So how much of his face did you manage to tear off before he escaped?

Metaldemon> <<go make some hearts bleed>> May I recommend a corkscrew? Or an electric drill, if you're in a hurry.

Niamhgold> <<Woo-hoo! Tiny Toons! Particle Man, Particle Man...>> I've yet to forget the Mega Man related ideas that song conjured up. <wonders how MM would fare against the Particle Crasher and the Vertex Cutter>

Spacebabie> <<is my brother a shallow jerk who needs to MYOB.>> I could answer this better if I knew what what myobbing is. Is it carnal? Does it have teeth? Does it enjoy pain and tire chains and Hostess Twinkies? :) <<Oh I also banged my toes into the wall and they hurt.>> I've done that. Ghastly experience. O_o

Pattie> <<Biggest disappointment: Seeing that men are still wearing neckties in 2155. Ties are the one item of clothing that can't go out of fashion fast enough, IMHO.>> I've always wanted to invent something that had the subdued stylishness and panache of ties, but was much less stifling. My first thought was masks (they're terribly comfortable), but that could be too easily abused. Scarves are a possibility, but they're just as strangling. Hats are, under most circumstances (you have to have just the right look to wear a hat), vaguely silly to me for some inscrutable reason, and capes would be vaguely silly to everyone else for some other equally inscrutable reason. Hm. :/ <<The Mussolini treatment? I'd like to think Americans are too high class for that.>> There's nothing more high-class than a well-executed execution. ;) <<So if I save up my points, is there a GOP gift shop I can redeem them at? ;)>> We call it the NRA.

Archwolf> Welcome back! <gives a doggy treat and a scritch behind the ears> ^_^

Revel> <<I have to write a speech about a certain culture or group that I'm apart of (smiles at everyone in the CR) Won't that bee interesting that people will talk about their church clubs and bowling leagues and what am I apart of... a secret online society bent on world domination!! (or at least that's what the sign outside said)>> Tee hee...<grabs Mr. Disconnect> Hear that you little butt waffle? We're finally going to be inflicted upon the normals. Why don't we give them a show? [Wilek flays DC and makes little origami things out of his skin, then exsanguinates him, dries him out, and injects him with wax, after the manner of the corpse art in the Fragonard Museum in France, and twists the new statue into unspeakably obscene shapes as if it were a balloon animal.] <<my mother tries to have garage sales and we never even get started becasue she'll go around saying, "Oh but we might need that or I just cant part with it" and my personal favorite, "It might be worth something someday.">> Heh, I'm like that...I don't think I've ever thrown anything away. O_o

Mooncat> <<I was born in America, and my mom's family (mostly from European origin) have been here for generations. My father was from Taiwan, and is ethnically Chinese -- So I have Dark Hair and Brown eyes, and light golden brown skin.>> Sounds quite nice. (Virtually everyone in my neighborhood is white. They are boring. They are sooo boring. Gods if they only knew how frelling BORING they are.) <<As a small grade school child, here in America's heartland, have had rocks flung at me by little white supremist children as I walked home from school.>> There are no words for how stupid these people are. >:( Have your parents considered homeschooling? It tends to leave students a bit naive, but it's a small price to pay for safety from subhuman maggots like the KKK Jr Club.

GXB> <<Those of us who are "South Park" fans would remember that when the Devil fought Jesus in the big fight (before he became a pussy in the movie), the Devil was the only one who bet on Jesus and threw the fight and went back to Hell with everyone's money.>> Woah. Hm...<evilgrin>

XenaTrek> Welcome back! ^_^

=It's worsened, the state of the world today
It's worth it to come up and find a way
Solution: the next time you're alone
You can create a world of your own=
~Macy Gray, Oblivion
Wilek "I Eat My Marimbas" Nereus
Thursday, October 4, 2001 12:50:48 AM
IP: host130.the-cloak.com

SJ: I've no interest in changing my opinon... no... however, i DO like debates, you can learn a lot... if it was to turn into a true argument... i'm out... but unless the admins say we can't.. i'd like to banter with taleweaver and see where we end up... you dont have to join in if you dont wnt to....
btw: I liked the philo thing... reminds me of Dogma and the debate of God being a woman ;)
Aingeal
Thursday, October 4, 2001 12:33:46 AM
IP: 207.42.162.149

**SJ looks into the CR, and sees a discussion about God other such religious things**

Waittaminute, another religious debate?

Niagra Falls! SLOWLY I TURN!!!!

*Dramatic sigh* Can we please not get into a debate over the existence of God, and / or "why" he did this / allowed this to happen / blah blah etc. ?? Cause I've learned this one little thing about religious debates: No one ever changes their mind. The atheists don't start believing in the Almighty, the believers don't stop believing in their God(s). We just wind up with long-winded arguments that don't go anywhere and just serve to tick people off.

You can't question whether or not this the will of God. Can't ask, "Why did God let this happen." First off, you don't know if there is a God. Let's say you do. Then you can't know what God's will is. If you believe the Islamic fundamentalists, God (or Allah) wanted this to happen, cause we're the Big Satan. Maybe God has a plan for all this. Or maybe God's just a prick. Or maybe there is no God.

I threw that in there, for you rotten, hellbound, heathen, philistine atheists. You're going to hell, nah nah! ;)

Point is�..what is my point again? Oh yeah, this is a 5-alarm migraine waiting to happen. It always ends up with the atheists being all smug because they feel they've shown the sub-intelligence of those who dare to believe in a preposterous notion of a supreme being, and the believers being all smug because they feel they've shown that there is a God and that the non-believers are doomed to spend an eternity for believing the preposterous notion that there is not a supreme being. And it makes my brain bleed. So let's shamble away from the God stuff, and start arguing over a fun topic, like�.I don't know, erotica. ;) Well, maybe not. I've opened that can of worms a few times before. :P

But I will leave you with a great TV sketch, from one of my favorite shows. It's tongue in cheek, so no flames for me, okay? Points in the afterlife to whomever gets the reference:

***********
[Two philosophers sit and, and drink and stroke their beards. Philosopher One turns to Philosopher Two]
Philosopher One: God is dead.

Announcer V.O.: Yes. "God is dead", cried Nietzsche. And the cry has been heard
for years. But for each philosopher, there has been a cynic.

[Two cynics pop out of nowhere]
Cynic One: No way!
Cynic Two: Prove it!

Announcer V.O.: And that is where the argument has stalemated... until now!

[We see a man holding a small body. Two other men stand in the back.]
Man: God IS dead. And here is the body to prove it.

[The cynics appear, their hair messed]
Cynic One: You've just blown my mind!
Cynic Two: Our minds have been blown!
[We see the philosophers, looking very smug]

[A doctor examines the body and nods sadly at the camera.]
Announcer V.O.: The world is shocked. First to find out God did in fact exist and second to find out he was now dead.

[We see a montage of crowd scenes, and various people looking stunned, ending with
a shot of a sad priest]
Priest: I've got some good news and some bad news.
[Priest motions to the small coffin he stands next to.]

Announcer V.O.: But the world was most shocked to find out how small God was.
[We see several images of wind pushing around trees, lightning storms and a
flower blooming in sped-up time during the next speech and finally the man holding the small body again.]
Announcer V.O.: Imagine winds.... storms... the miracle of life. All from this tiny God with such tiny hands and feet.
Man: He's really light, too.

[The priest holds up and turn a small jacket. It has GOD spelled out on the back.]
Announcer V.O.: Yes, God did exist. He died. He was very small. Mystery solved!

[We see a mother and her daughter holding candles and crying.]
Announcer V.O.: The world has a brief period of mourning.

[Cut to pictures of trucks going down the highway.]
Announcer V.O.: And then it's business as usual, on the streets and highways that God built!

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Thursday, October 4, 2001 12:25:20 AM
IP: 66-44-57-226.s480.tnt2.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Josh> Are you saying my dancing is crap?
Spacebabie> I think I have to agree with Kyryn. I promise I would never post that message and so we can only assume.
Winterwolf> Thanks again for the link. It's on my screensaver.
SOROW
Thursday, October 4, 2001 12:13:22 AM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

Imzadi> <<Kinda puts a damper on the whole "studying" thing.>>: Study? What's that?
<<who the hell are you talking about?>>: Me.
<<bodies that shouldn't be shown in public>>: I'm amazed they let me wald around even clothed.
<<They stop coming back>>: Oh, if only that were my problem.
<<Isn't that the POINT of black magic?>>: I thought it was to mug innocent old guys and spend the gold on a collection of ancient spells that could easily destroy a small kingdom if they were placed into the wrong hands - Hands such as mine very own.
<<Just one?>>: Well, it's my first one, and it's only in lab 0.
<<Cool, isn't it?>>: I thought so.
<<Speak for yourself>>: I am.
<>: There are five of us (plus bio boy), and engineers are classically more boring than programmers.
<<SUCK!>>: And who knows what they're going to do about today's.
<<This is Niamhgold we're talking about>>: See your own quote.
<>: If it didn't happen, then I'd think something would be fundamentally wrong with the fabric of the universe.
Revel> <<unsatisfied women, sounds like a personal problem to me>>: Oddly enough, there was an article in Yesterday's Targum about testing for a new drug to combat "lack of sexual desire, lubrication problems, and difficulty achieving orgasm" for women.

Aaron> <>: Did they?
<<Everything comes full circle>>: Eh? Am I missing part of the story?

Niamhgold> <<Thanks for your critique of my work>>: You're acutally listening to an engineer who repeatedly mentions Leda and the Swan?

Jan> <<Like Quincy except there?s more humor in this show>>: Quicy did tend to get preachy.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, October 4, 2001 12:08:42 AM
IP: nat01-mccr-ext.rutgers.edu

Entity: 1) the question was mostly rhetorical.... and 2) there is no such thing as an assinine question unless you dont ask it then screw something up (so says my manager...) I DO happen to have a fairly high level of intellect, and asking a rhetorical question to lead into a discussion isn't lowering that... however if you'd like me to I can lower myself to the level of commenting on people's intelligence based on comments not direted at them.... like you have. If you want to comment on the subject, feel free... dont question my intelligence because I put things in simple terms so as not to confuse people.... that's just plain annoying. I also happen to have a very good understanding of Christian doctrine... tho from a limited standpoint.. that of my own faith. I dont question Gods existance at all... as you'd notice if you look farther in my comments... did you even manage literacy that far? (and yes.. i'm feeling ornery and I AM baiting you.. feel free to argue if you like.)

ANYWAY.

Taleweaver: <<I'll counter that case.>> OOO fun! <<I'm feeling argumentative today.>> Aren't we all ;)

<<By your argument God can not curtail someone's free will.>> Not quite what I meant, but by the wording yes... What I personally believe is that He could, but as i believe His power comes from the respect and reverence all of creation give Him, were He to go back on his word and remove that He would cease to be God for He would have changed... there's some scripture to that effect someplace... i'll find it later when I'm REALLY bored.
<<Yet, we do so everyday. The extreme case being murder, if someone kills another that victim's free will is ended.>> To an extent... that leads into a discussion on whether that free will to forgive would come into effect from the next life... you want to go there?

<<Potentially meaning a murderer is more powerful than god.>> Again... depends on your point of view on the next life... and whether the free agency is truly taken away...

<<(Having the ability and being unwilling to that ability is the same as not having the ability.)>> all depends what you consider not having the ability.... Do you feel that prosoners in the Concentration camps in WWII had free agency? I do...
<<On the abstract level, free will curtails one of god's three qualities: omnipotentence, omnibenifience, omniscient.>> What the heck if that middle one??
<<God can't be all powerful, if someone can do something God can not, namely evil.>> I believe God CAN do anything.. including evil... He just Chooses not to every time.... thus earning the reverence that gives His power....
<<He can't be all-good, if he has the ability to effect change and chooses not to.>> Why not? aren't we here to learn? How do we learn if there's no opposition? Even lifting weights we have to have an opposing force... you learn nothing if you never have the choice...
And god can't be all-knowing because free will allows for something to happen beyond god's control and beyond his knowing.>> Not necessarily, but that gets into what the difference in mortal viewpoint is versus the view of being able to see all things, and that concept makes my brain hurt.. :p

I await your response... i'm not trying to be argumnetative in a bad way.. i'd like to debate it tho... just to see if we learn anything... or if nothing else just to explore this interesting new hypothetical world we're creating ;)

Aingeal
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 11:55:24 PM
IP: 207.42.162.149

Taleweaver> Well, it's not that God can't kill someone, it's that he won't. By giving us life, God gave us the potential for death, whether by natural means or murder; just as a peice of wood has the potential to be cold when it is on fire, so does man have the potential to die when he is alive: it's just nature.
As far as evil is concerned, according to Christ, we are all evil with the possibility for redemption, which still leaves us as evil, but gives us a greater potentiality for good: "Why do you call me good, for there is only One Good." Evil does not come from God, but rather, evil WILL is a part of man, it's up to a person to try and acheive goodness rather than be consumed by evil. Besides, commiting evil makes one imperfect. Why would an all perfect being choose to become imperfect? This would make the being lose the characteristics you listed.
Change: You have to want to change if you want God to help you; it shows God that this is something you want: "Seek and you shall find, knock and you will be answered." In other words, God won't help you unless you want to be helped.
Free Will: Well, if God didn't give us free-will, how could God thus judge us justly? To predestine someone's life is, IMO, robbing him/her of the chance to be judge justly. Therefore, free-will must be a part of God's will for man so that God may judge us with pure justice.
Don't worry, most of my friends are atheist, with me being the only religious one, so religioun doesn't really drive a wedge between me or anyone else. I love discussing religion!
Later.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 11:52:35 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

You guys remember that computer virus going around as an attachement with two extensions? Well, it's been sent to me 3 more time recently.

Imzadi - wrong answer. I don't have a raccoon problem; I have a two raccoon problem.

Oh no. Not a discussion about free will vs fate with God involved. I had enough trouble understanding it the first time. Fate and free will co-exist. The issue of fate only applies if you could travel through time.

**Time travel**
Altering fate would be tricky, right? I mean that further one would travel back in time the more critical; shooting Karl Marx before he published any books might prevent the birth of the internet from coming as soon as it did. (can anyone go besides me plot how Karl Marx lead to the internet?)
**END TIME TRAVEL**

Imzadi - <What are the odds that someone would post something that no one cares about?> I'd say it's fifty to 50.

I go for another visit to the chiropractor tomorrow, so Imzadi, I will be checking my bank balance then. I'll let you know if the check cleared on my side.

Imzadi - Knowing that the check will clear, I expect an email to my normal address (dph_of_rules@yahoo.com) telling me when you sent the software.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 11:01:13 PM
IP: max1-65.cwy.cei.net

Josh> <<Understanding depression>>: Okay, I'm curious: what's to understand?>> actually, quite a bit. Depression is much more than just �being sad�.

Aaron> The CPS was not called in beforehand because no one knew what was going on, including the mom. The little girl never told anyone and mom wasn�t aware of the �symptoms� until it was too late. Once mom called the police, CPS was also called in. In fact, the police are not allowed to question any minor without a CPS agent present.
<<Maybe �cause you're always so particular about other peoples...>> ummmm ok? I don�t recall correcting anyone�s grammar or spelling mistakes before� and if I did, it was rare.
<<The fact that we've essentially stripped them of most of their decision-making power via federal sentencing guideline legislation makes no nevermind.>> I agree. However, what powers that they do have left, they rarely utilize to the fullest.

Winterwolf> <<Does Dennis know about this? ;P >> *giggles* actually yes, he�s familiar with the term ;) <not a morning person> Well late for me would usually between 10 and 11 AM, but that�s since I�m used to waking up by 6 AM. After that I tend to get uncomfortable in bed >> *nodnodnod* Usually if I sleep past 9am, I get a headache. After spending the past 13 years getting up so early, it took me a long time to be able to sleep past 6am. Once I _finally_ started sleeping later, I go back to work and now I have to get up early again! *L*

Gside> yeah! Like Quincy except there�s more humor in this show. =)

The officers received a tip that there might be a body at the bottom of a cave so they went to investigate. The only way into the cave was from the top. They lowered an officer upside down into the cave approx. 150 feet before he reached the bottom. (There was no body found) While raising him back up (4 officers pulling on the rope) they brought him about half way up (he�s hanging upside down) and they made him agree to buy lunch before they�d bring him all the way out! *laughs*

The inmates were fairly quiet today � it was wild around the office instead. We have a dispatcher that hasn�t put in a full shift since she�s been hired (2 months ago). She has also already missed 8 days of work so far. She called in her own replacement last night and didn�t check to make sure there would be coverage in the morning.. there wasn�t. The office admin was called and had 15 mins. to get out of bed, get dressed and get to the office. She was not a happy camper.
Later in the day, she (the office admin) continued arguing with an attorney over the transporting of a prisoner to another county. The judges in each county said the attorney was wrong but he wasn�t going to accept that. Nothing like hearing Kathy yelling at a smart-ass attorney when she has 2 judges backing her. Hehe He called back later with apologies. For a while � while she was on a rampage � I wore a bulletproof vest around the office ;)
I entered around 65 warrants in the past 2 days. O.o

Greg> I received that email a couple of days ago too. It�s nice to know that it has turned out to be another hoax. The NIMDA virus is not a hoax, though. A friend of mine is head of computer security for Compaq has confirmed that this is indeed a very serious virus.

Time to call it a night.
Jannie
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 10:18:42 PM
IP: modem19-174.mo-net.com

Same old style of hoax, diffrent day....

Sorry, guys, total falsitude. Please reference:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/klingerman_hoax.htm
http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/klingerman.html
http://www.europe.f-secure.com/hoaxes/klingerm.shtml

Not to mock the concern of anyoen who posts stuff liek that in here, but there is a pattern to these hoxes, the CIAC has a good discussion of it.

Quickly! Back to lurking!

Hyperion - [hyperion@justice.com]
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 10:05:45 PM
IP: pool-151-197-112-214.phil.east.verizon.net

THE VIRUS RUMOR IS A HOAX! DO NOT PANIC. CNN REPORTED ON IT THIS MORNING.
Tim Phipps
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 09:59:51 PM
IP: wsc0051.wsc.edu

Boy wouldn't THAT just suck. And I thought my everyday spam from CD stores was bad.
Josh
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 09:44:31 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Ok, my Mom forwarded this to me, and while I'm sure (and hope) it is BS, I figured it'd be better to be safe than sorry, so I'm posting it here.

***

ONCE YOU HAVE READ THIS PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL YOU KNOW.
This is from Schwab corporate headquarters - so it's no joke. Very scary.
Be careful - Just when you thought you were safe, now we have the following
to deal with...please read, it definitely is a serious threat to our lives
and health This is an alert about a virus in the original sense of the
word...one that affects your body, not your hard drive. There have been 23
confirmed cases of people attacked by the Klingerman Virus, a virus that
arrives in your real mail box, not your e-mail in box.
> > > >> > >
Someone has been mailing large blue envelopes, seemingly at random, to
people inside the US. On the front of the envelope in bold black letters is
printed, "A gift for you from the Klingerman Foundation." When the envelopes
are opened, there is a small sponge sealed in plastic. This sponge carries
what
has come to be known as the Klingerman Virus, as public health officials
state,
this is a strain of virus they have not previously encountered.
When asked for comment, Florida police Sergeant Stetson said, "We are
working with the CDC and the USPS, but have so far been unable to track
down the origins of these letters. The return addresses have all been
different,
and we are certain a remailing service is being used, making our jobs that
much
more difficult." Those who have come in contact with the Klingerman Virus
have been hospitalized with severe dysentery. So far seven of the victims
have died.
> > > >> > >
There is no legitimate Klingerman Foundation mailing unsolicited gifts.
If you receive an oversized blue envelope in the mail marked "A gift from
the Klingerman foundation." DO NOT open it. Place it in a strong plastic bag
or container and call the police immediately. The "gift" is one you
definitely do not want to open. PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU CARE
ABOUT.
Mrs. Sandra Dee McNair-Boyd, Social Work Secretary Yale New Haven Hospital
Department of Social Work 203-688-2256

***
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 09:38:16 PM
IP: dialin-1323-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

** Niamhgold enters briefly **

Argh...I'm so mad. They may cancel Invader Zim! Nooooooooooooooooooooo!

Gside: Thanks for your critique of my work ;) The fact about the foreshortening of the arm in the foreground is quite true...it's just not right ;) That's what I get for working from a digital pic. As for color...if only. We're restricted to charcoal in this class ;)

Stupid human organs! They'd better NOT cancel Invader Zim!
Adios :)
Niamhgold
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 08:35:58 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

God> I'm sorry, but asking a question like "Where was God September 11?" is just so asinine. Not only does it exemplify the intellectual development of a five-year-old, not only does it betray ones total lack of understanding of Christian doctrine, but it is just plain hollow. Hollow? Yes, because if one lone man is shot down on a New York street for his wallet, nobody demands to know why God didn't step in. But if something is of grander proportion and involves mass destruction, THEN that calls into question God? Ugh.

*applauds Taleweaver* I never cease to be impressed with your observations, dude.

Click my name for a good article courtesy of The Onion, that relates to these discussions.

(P.S. Stabbing Westward is God.)
Entity
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 07:36:30 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

Hiya everyone,

God and Tragedy> I'll counter that case. I'm feeling argumentative today. That God allows free will/free agency allows for things you may not want to give away. By your argument God can not curtail someone's free will. Yet, we do so everyday. The extreme case being murder, if someone kills another that victim's free will is ended. Potentially meaning a murderer is more powerful than god. (Having the ability and being unwilling to that ability is the same as not having the ability.) On the abstract level, free will curtails one of god's three qualities: omnipotentence, omnibenifience, omniscient. God can't be all powerful, if someone can do something God can not, namely evil. He can't be all-good, if he has the ability to effect change and chooses not to. And god can't be all-knowing because free will allows for something to happen beyond god's control and beyond his knowing.

I know I've painted a big target on my back. Arguing God's existence is a chief mean to lose friends and alienate people, but they'd yank my cynic's license. Comments on Buffy and Angel later. See ya.
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 07:18:09 PM
IP: 24-205-118-23.wc-dyn.charterpipeline.com

Finally...

Josh> <<The truth is that there IS a way I could be drafted and not actually hold a gun (sure, take all the fun out why dontcha?) but there's no chance in hell I'm gonna do it.>> Somehow, I wouldn't worry about it. The military would take one look at guys like you and me and know we'd never pass the physical. (I can't carry a bag of gear that weighs 4/5s what I do, can you?) <<BOW TO ME MORTAL!>>: I've said that before...>> As have I. In fact, I think I said that at the auction... <<You spank her...she'll kick my butt if I do it.>> Hmmm, Jen, verdict please? << And he was a TOTAL pussy.>> Boy I'm glad Arty's not here. Actually, no, I'm not. :( <<What about pillage, sack, burn, rape, and loot?>> The Viking Pentathlon?

Carolynn Marie > <<There's "chick flick" so we gotta have a male version.>> We already have one. "Guy movie." No need to get fancy with it. Welcome to the room, btw. <<I'm
wondering how someone as crazy as the Taliban came to be>> Short answer: It's complicated. Slightly longer answer, Afghanistan is Russia's equivalent to Vietnam. The Taliban are thus equivalent to the Viet Cong. Which means that *we*, the US of A, supplied them with the training and technology to take over the country. <<This guy on campus has a goatee and long hair and he's practically mobbed by girls>> Where do you go to school again?

Lynati> Awwww. Ask her how much spam she got in her first 24 hours online. And did she ever respond to that scary letter? <<My first order of business shall be to addict her to webcomics ]=).>> Woot! <<can I borrow about 4,000 dollars?>> Hmmm, let me check my cards... Actually, I could probably do that, if it was really an emergency. (And you promised to help make the minimums)

Revel> <<thanks for the E>> Lynati's dealing Ecstacy now?

Jannie> How is it that Child Protective Services hasn't been called on those people already? <> Maybe �cause you're always so particular about other peoples... <<*shrugs* wait! does this make me the admin's pet? ;)>> Not while you're spouting that heresy about Dr. Pepper being inferior to Mr. Pibb. ;) <<People have to travel via a fairy (is that the proper spelling for this?)>> Not unless Tinkerbell is magicking people across the water. I think you mean ferry. <<Where is the justice?>> Quoth Lord Morpheus, "Justice is an illusion you shall find not in this dimension or any other." <<It is the judges that allows for such nonsense and injustice to prevail.>> Riiiiiiiiiight. The fact that we've essentially stripped them of most of their decision-making power via federal sentencing guideline legislation makes no nevermind.

SJ> <> I was surprised it came in under two hours. <<So, who wants to be my Mr. Glass?>> Well, I have a tendency to fall down stairs... <<My philosophy is that, regardless of your hero, it's the villain that makes or breaks the show.>> Amen. One of the reasons I've never liked Disney's Peter Pan. (Which Disney's going to be doing a sequel to soon. And no, it *won't* be direct to video. The mouse has lost it's mind) <<the Capitals, who occasionally make it to the playoffs and generally don't embarrass us like all of our other local sports teams do.>> You mean like your boys from Baltimore did a week or two ago? A 21-10 beating? From the Cincinnati Bengals? (Points and laughs) Ha-ha! <<Utopia will NEVER exist, not because we don't want it too, but rather because no matter how hard we try, we'll never be able to achieve it because it's not in our nature to do so.>> I think Agent Smith said something similar in The Matrix... Something about humanity not functioning in Utopias. <<*Did Willow really use the obfuscate spell?>> I want an obfuscate spell!

Fleur> <> A rock musical, and now a major motion picture (tm) called Hedwig and the Angry Inch. Could be the Y2K equivalent to Rocky. Loved your song too. <<I'm owned by my creativity demons>> (Pest points at Aaron) Hah! W3 ownz j00!

Jen> (Hugs) I hope everything works out for you and yours.

Gside> <<Ian J. of RPGWorld is a fan of Stephanie Lostimolo.>> Everything comes full circle.

FS> Speaking of odd webcomics... Clicky my name. Who does Galgarion look like from behind? I can't believe I didn't notice this until Lynati pointed it out to me...

(Waves to Archwolf)

Patrick> <:) >> No way. Subway Series Redux. (I should point out that all I know about MLB is that Barry Bonds is hitting quite well, and the Yankees are going to win again)

Christine> <<The Book of All Flesh>> Is that a porn anthology? ;) <<unofficial Gathering entertainment.>> Maybe we could combine the two and make the hunky guys fight.

Later.

"If I've offended you... Good! �Cause I still don't give a f**k!" -Eimenem.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 06:37:02 PM
IP: 209.33.140.100

*Enters,looking a tad manic*

PETCO COMMERICIAL! PETCO COMMERCIAL!! :D :D :D
It was just on again...I heard it this morning for the first time...
I swear, nothing is more surreal than to wake up to the radio and realize that Thom Adcox is barking at you like a dog. He rules! hehhehheh...
Just thought I'd share.

*offers Aingeal hugs*

*waves at lain*

*Leaves to wash the clay out of her hair.*
Lynati "Gazebo" Kshudra
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 05:35:40 PM
IP: kcx-ks18a-01.rasserver.net

*enters with a large grin*
i was walking home from my "art and the mass media" class when i came across this song on my friends "radio free vestibule" cd. i think its hilarious and i thought id share.. if you can imagine a country-old-west song, thats what it sounds like.. most of the verses are spoken, with a thick southern accent, whereas the chours is sung in predictible phrases.. bwa ha..

once upon a time there was a town,
a town where chaos reigned,
lawlessness was everywhere,
and there was no cohesive theory existing which proporly explained the mass media and their impact on society and mans thinking..
and then one day, a stranger came ridin into town,
and all the townsfolk gathered around and asked him his name
well he tipped his hat and said,
"marshall. marshall mcluhan."
(marshall... marshall..)
well they gave him a star and put it on his chest,
and gave him his own office space with his name on the door
well wouldnt you know,
the very next day a fight broke out
at the last chance saloon.
it was an argument concerning the externalization of the senses and its subsequent effect on mans psychological makeup..
it was about to come to blows when marshall stepped in and he said,
"boys, a theory of cultural change is impossible without knowledge of the changing sensor ratio affected by various externalizations of our senses."
(marshall mcluhan..
youre such a groovy thinker.. and
we really dig what you say, cos
youve got the best insights into mass mediaaaaaaaaaa
this side of the rio grande..)
well then came the fateful day when a tall dark man
all dressed in black came ridin into town.
all the townsfolk ran inside and locked their doors and hid,
and the bad man stood in the town square
and he called out for marshall mcluhan
he said,
"marshall, i dont agree with your description of television as a tactile medium in the context of a visual notion of causality!"
so marshall shot him.
(marshall mcluhan..
youre such a groovy thinker.. and
we really dig what you say, cos
youve got the best insights into mass mediaaaaaaaaaa
this side of the rio grande..
marshall mcluhan.. marshall mcluhan.. marshall mcluhaaaaaaaaaaan..)

its the funniest thing.. better with the music, no doubt.. and if you know marshall mcluhan..

aaaaaaaaah buffy was good, i liked it.

sj>> oh, i know the capacity for war/aggressiveness/violence exists within everyone. i know it exists in me, very much so, in fact. i just happen to believe in the power of logic and will to overcome animal instinct is all.. ; )
yeah, sj, i KNOW i live in a society and a country that HAS and will go to war again if need be. and ill go, too, if need be. no matter how big and round moochies eyes go and how much he argues with me that "women arent supposed to go to war.." ; )
and i dont go home and feel good about "being a pacefist." i go home and stare at the television and feel helpless and try to think of anything i can do that wont compromise my principles and wonder if my principles are really so great and how much easier my life would be if i could just get over that whole "killing is wrong" thing i have and write long run-on sentances in the CR to you and hope (likely in vain) that it will make some sense, which it wont, so ill just eat m&ms and wish they still had the light brown ones (which were the best) and then stop with the run-on sentance and think about squids.. squids have really cool mating dances, did you know? theyre really cool..

joshy>> DSL gods? well.. the math gods never answered my prayers so.. and being handcuffed doesnt AAAAAAAAALWAYS suck.. uh.. *ahem* not that id know..

aingeal>> re: religious stuff>> well.. yeah.. i heard that was the general theory, too.. ; )

love,
lain "blubber macademia plethora spatula FOIBLE!!" iwakura - [sanchinwalker@hotmail.com]
the Great White North
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 04:43:16 PM
IP: 198.96.83.46

PS.... IGNORE my spelling please.. i'm fighting a migraine...and just plain can't type :p
Aingeal
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 03:31:35 PM
IP: 207.42.162.150

Anonymous: I dont know you, you may or not pay attention to me... but here's a thought.

NOTE: If you dont want to listen to me waxing religious.. dont read this!

****Religious****
Where was God on Sept 11?

when we were given this life to life, we were given free agency. God wants us to do good, to love and help our brothers and sisters in this life, to treat the earth with care, and live to return to Him in heaven, through Christ who acted as an atoning sacrifice to open that door for us... This is basic Christian belief I think...at least it's mine. People like to ask "During this and that tragedy, where was God? Why didn't he stop it from happening...?" No one can seem to understand why if God CAN stop bad things from happening that He doesn't. God CAN do anything he wants to, ECXEPT remove that free agency He gave us when we came here to live. These terrorists took that agency and hurt thousands of lives. They killed so many and broke so many hearts. America, and much of the world took our agency then and choose to unify and denounce this evil. Yes, God COULD have stopped it, but then He would have to take away that agency that is the reason we are living here on Earth. I dont know why things happened, except that others took their agency and acted. I DO know that God loevs all of us and that He cares and Sorrows at our griefs. I also konw that I wouldn't want to be those hijackers when they face Him at the last day across the judgement bar and are held accountable for their actions.

Is God there? YES Does He listen? YES Does he love us? Most Definitely Yes! More than that... I'm not God, and wouldn't want His job, so I can't say. Best I can say is to keep faith and trust in His love.

***End Religios Stuff***

Josh:<> AHHHH... thank you for that clarification.... I happen to be one that prefers not to fight unless stressed out of my mind or pissed, thus the explosion the other day... Sorry btw. <<Don't do me any favors, now.>> Oh, dont worry.. i wont :) <> Ahhh again... i see... it turns out I can't use any of them anyway since I used gradient blends instead of flat colors in them .... GGRRRRRRRR... so i'll end up putting more up there enventually... oh well. Whenever I get my web portfolio built I'll have to leave the link in the CR and let people critique it...

***RANT***

ANYWAY.... I've got to work tomite.. i'm sad... but that means I've got all day tomorrow off YAY!... I also get my computer fixed this weekend... along with turning in the company I bought it from to the better business bureau and Microsoft... they never gave me the OS software, then tried to give me a burned copy... and eery time I've taken it bck to them for work... (supposed to be under warranty) they charge me, and then a month and a half later I've got to have it reformatted, and this time he screwed up my CD RW.... i'm getting pissy!

***END RANT***

::chuckles:: ok... venting over.... I'm going to go off and actaully try and redo the HW.... laters!

Aingeal
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 03:30:30 PM
IP: 207.42.162.150

**Winterwolf enters the CR**

Hi. At the moment most of my free time is spend packing things so I can be ready to start traveling this weekend. So I have to use free time at work to post and write emails. The funniest thing that is happening at work right now is that we are moving from the second floor to the sixth floor and I have to move today. So while most of the servers are down I have free time. It does seem silly that I have to spend part of my last week here moving. ;)

SJ> <typo> I had gathered that from the context of your message. <convince Winterwolf to let Dreamie> How about if she poses for the life drawing instead? ;D

Christine> <computer croaked> Hard drive or something else went? Anyway I�m glad you can surf and post again.

Jan> <quickie before work...> Does Dennis know about this? ;P <not a morning person> Well late for me would usually between 10 and 11 AM, but that�s since I�m used to waking up by 6 AM. After that I tend to get uncomfortable in bed unless there�s something to prevent me from getting uncomfortable... **innocent look**

Josh> <Everything was fine with that sentence except for the words "Winterwolf to let"> **grins** Mwahahaha. ;) <parent�s kitchen> I saw a magazine just yesterday that featured a kitchen that looked exactly like your parent�s kitchen where we hung out before the movie. That was kind of weird.

Dreamie> <kiss, snuggle, nuzzle and cuddle> I love you. <kiss, snuggle, nuzzle and cuddle several more times>

Christine and Josh> <video camera> Funny that it just gets mentioned since I spent this last weekend video taping my two baptisms and a wedding for my friend. The tough part was keeping out of everyone�s way and not tripping over anything. ;) A fight would really have me using zoom because I don�t want to get hit for being too close.

Aingeal> <artwork> Ah! I like them. My favorites are the two patterns in the third row. For these two I have to say � �Wow�

SOROW> You got it. You can also go to all the pics anytime at http://www.cs.albany.edu/~adavanzo

That�s all for the moment. I started this post yesterday and figured I�d finish it today.

Bye bye for now

**Winterwolf exits**

Winterwolf
Bronx, NY
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 03:22:38 PM
IP: ice.greyinteractive.com

Revel><An interesting point was presented today by a young man aspiring to be a pilot. He wants to start a petition so that commercial airline pilots can carry sidearms. Or at least tazers. Not bad, but what happens when our pilots go nuts? Yep we can't win.> What happens when a pilot goes nuts? Let me reference you to the Egyptian Airlines crash over the North Atlantic about a year ago. Pilot went nuts/suicidal. Disabled copilot somehow. Dove the plane into the ocean, killing himself and everyone on board.

*shrug* I'm not going to worry myself paranoid over what everyone 'might' do.

Later!
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 03:16:49 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Revel: Not a personal problem of mine...perhaps of SJ's, though...
Josh
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 02:48:35 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

An interesting point was presented today by a young man aspiring to be a pilot. He wants to start a petition so that commercial airline pilots can carry sidearms. Or at least tazers. Not bad, but what happens when our pilots go nuts?
Yep we can't win.

Josh- unsatisfied women, sounds like a personal problem to me. But it just goes to prove now one can please anyone. Probably has something to do with all those extra chemicals in our bodies.

Greg- Hey! how dare you try to profit from a gathering without me... what about the plan? ;)

Christine- my opinion about The Musketeer was about the same as Becca's "Things go boom!"

"This is the RV from Hell."
-Tango&Cash-

Later
Revel - [Samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 01:33:27 PM
IP: dynamic-129-120-236-181.dynamic.unt.edu

Just popping in for a quick hello. Been super busy with work and stuff.

Anyway for those who are interested on an update for my hearing dog status, I've sent the following to the email address I do have for this room:

Just wanted to let you know that all donations are in. The phase is a 2nd waiting period, in which they will need to locate, test and train a dog that would be a fit for me. Once they have a dog, it would take as little as four months to receive him or her.

Thank you all for your donations and support. I will
continue to keep you posted as to when I receive a
dog.

Speaking of email address, FS, I sent you an email too, but it came back saying your email address no longer exsist. Could you email me privately your new email address? I greatly appreciate it.

Catch you all later.
XenaTrek - [XenaTrek@yahoo.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 12:23:01 PM
IP: proxy2a.lmco.com

Spacebabie> If you look at the account listing below the post, you'll note that it is a qwest account out of the Austin area. It's probably Doug/Kit since SOROW is the only other CR regular in that area and she's posting from a dorm account.

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 10:04:56 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

For my birthday, I'd like DirecTV to give me WB and UPN. Is that really too much to ask? I mean, I'm paying for ALL the movie channels AND the bunny channel. Cut me some slack here!

I woke up bright and early (10AM) for my math midterm, and pretty much walked right through that. There was a part of one question that I just guessed randomly on...and got wrong, naturally.

I believe Daryl Zero would say this: "If you guess randomly, then your odds are low, because of all the answers in the universe, you're looking for one."

But the rest of the test was pretty easy. Now lets see what happens when I get it back...(tomorrow, I think).

After a lunch break it was off to dynamics, and then another short break before a discussion. Discussions are my friend: how else would I figure out how to do the homework?

Then a meeting with my friend from math to do our homework that's due friday. I hate having problem sets assigned the same week as the midterm. Kinda puts a damper on the whole "studying" thing.

**BUFFY SPOILERS**

Okay, I'm not even gonna TOUCH the jokes that spring to mind when Willow coughs up a snake.

Willow is gettin kinda scary. I mean...she killed a baby deer. A lot of a trouble just to raise your dead friend.

And doesn't she know that it will lower Buffy's constitution by 1 point? - if you get that, you are a geek. Don't try to get around it.

Giles is gone. I wonder if they'll call him and fess up to resurrecting her.

Spike, as usual, has the best lines.

Kill Tara! Let Willow go back to being straight again so we can go back to having dirty thoughts about her.
**END BUFFY SPOILERS**

Patrick Toman: <<is there a GOP gift shop I can redeem them at>>: See White House.

Jan: <<that's called being a lazyass>>: Ah, thank you for clarifying that. <>: Ugh! How can you function? The last time I woke up that early was...actually, I don't remember the last time I woke up that early. <<At least she doesn't have to deal with all of this with him still around.>>: Yeah, well wait till you see the kinds of guys she dates. <<so many criminals, so few bullets..>>: that sounds like a good motto for when I take over the world.

Christine: <<up and croaked>>: I HATE when that happens. Did you lose all your data? <<Understanding depression>>: Okay, I'm curious: what's to understand? <<I'm taking a book>>: Careful, there may be a test later. <<Someone bring a video camera>>: I'll definitely get pictures. But video...that may be Wolf's department. <<equivalently hunky _guys_>>: I'm sorry...who the hell are you talking about?! <<were going to dance>>: Most of us having no rhythm whatsoever and bodies that shouldn't be shown in public...you might want to rethink that request.

Sevarius Jr: <>: Naturally, I knew all along what you meant. <<but instead had just bombed�say, Tom Cruise�.well, in that case, *I* might be out there protesting the war>>: Yeah, because chicks would stop bitching that you weren't him. <>: You're a nut. <<it'd prove we're absolutely f!cking insane. And for some reason, that strikes me as appealing>>: Would that be because you're absolutely f*cking insane? <<evil, foul, potty mouth>>: Whoa, evil AND foul. High praise. <<The reason we're so violent and aggressive is to ensure our survival>>: And if you don't believe that I'll beat it into you! <<The only thing pacifism will get you is ensured death at the hands of a non-pacifist>>: LOL. <<It's only a problem if you really care about the woman's satisfaction>>: I wonder why I never considered that. Oh yeah, now I know. They stop coming back if you don't even PRETEND to care. <<damn your logic! It's too logical!>>: We are two sides of a coin. <<Now I'm waiting for the hammer to drop>>: Either that or the phrase "snowball's chance in hell". <<You're right. I mean, I'm right. I can't argue with myself!>>: Oh this can be fun. <>: DAMN! That might explain why it was so easy. <<Maybe I can book you and Josh as the undercard to my main event fight with Crzy>>: Hah! Talk about Satan vs. Jesus battle. <>: I'm shocked. <<There's a sentence I never thought I'd hear>>: Wait till you see "Pretty Fly for a White Guy" for Puck. <<opening up the door for dozens of "questionable parentage" jokes that I would never have the nerve to say>>: Liar. <<Willow's level of magic�..black magic, at that�.is really getting disturbing>>: Isn't that the POINT of black magic? <<why else would she not have decomposed>>: Can you imagine the dropout rate of fanboys if she had? <>: And he's not the only one. <<glad to see the guys from Slipknot making their television debut! >>: LOL! I hate those jackasses. <<Did Willow really use the obfuscate spell>>: I dunno, its all kind of cloudy.

Baldy: <<Finally got a pair of decent swords this Saturday>>: Do they make you think sworded thoughts? ;-) <<the tanto's not from Feudal Japan>>: That doesn't matter. But if its not scottish... <<avoid snide comments to Aingeal around the end of the month>>: Seriously. Or at least every 28 days starting now. <<So it only lasts a little while, big deal. With more being made each day, it gould go on indefinitely, y'know>>: You could have some of the roaches make more of the chips too! <<at a seminar mostly assembled from fairly humorless individuals>>: Engineers? <<have you ever considered that he might be Alexander's godfather? Consider THAT possibility>>: As south park pointed out: not all gay people molest little boys. <<it can't be any *more* embareassing than what our collective hormones can come up with>>: Han Solo - "I dunno, I can imagine quite a bit." <<we're hardly likely to WALK hundreds of miles to plunder>>: What about pillage, sack, burn, rape, and loot?

The Wizard: <<the guy actually has really good opinions on art>>: You're just saying that because I like yours ;-) <<he hasn't been treating you or your friends any worse than he treats the rest of the populace>>: Sad, but true. <<after all, it's ME as Witchblade, not Sara Pezzini>>: All the more reason to increase the indecency factor. <<witchblade pic>>: NICE!

Lain: <<aaaaaaaany day now, i should be getting a net connection at home>>: Sounds like my roommate and me praying to the DSL gods. <<that virus ate his computer or something something>>: I'd laugh, but its not funny. <<we arent leaving you, you arent that lucky>>: And here SJ was, hoping for one fewer admin. <<many people would much rather be aggressive and dominant>>: Its so much more fun! Plus, being handcuffed sucks. Oh, that wasn't what you were talking about, was it? <>: Well at least you're honest.

Entity: You're absolutely right. We should NEVER use nukes. <<have decades of speculative fiction done nothing for our senses of apocalyptic reason?>>: Obviously not, since we just watched a terrible "movie" about the collapse of the WTC by terrorist attack.

Aingeal: <>: I don't argue about EVERYTHING. Life's too short for that (even if I do enjoy arguing, not everyone else does). <>: Don't do me any favors, now. <<so... not much I could do>>: I didn't want a reason/excuse, I was just saying that I dismissed it from my ranking ;-)

SOROW: <>: What for? <<how many of you are willing to pay for a video of me and Dreamie...dancing?>>: Depends on the dancing. Although considering my current satellite TV bill you'd be surprised at the crap I'll pay good money for.

Carolynn Marie: <<your own petition about anything...it has possibilities, you think?>>: JOSH FOR WORLD DOMINATION PETITION! <<gay-bashing, wife-beating ass>>: Yeah, but god is he funny. <>: Oh come off it. Something bad happening doesn't make movies any less entertaining.

Jim R: KICKASS VIDEO! <<1 hour & 8 minutes for 56k modem.>>: Is that all? I downloaded the entire MacGIMP program over a modem. 200 meg.

Jaden: Good luck!

Sorow: <<Do you still have that pic of me and Dreamie together from the Gathering?>>: Argh. Four days, not ONE decent picture of you.

Anonymous: You are beginning to get on people's nerves. Start using your name or I'll be forced to cut off your net access. Not that I work for QWEST or anything...

DPH: << The good news is I no longer have a racoon problem. Guess what the bad news is>>: You had to kill them all. <<at what point are we advanced enough>>: When our technology is indistinguishable from magic. <>: What are the odds that someone would post something that no one cares about? <<4-3=1>>: You can finally get into Berkeley.

Queen of Pain: He's a coward.

Greg X: <<If I know anything about Jen and SJ, it's that they're just as evil as I am>>: When I take over, I'll either kill the three of you or give you positions on my cabinet. <<So no one gamble here>>: Except you forgot something. I don't think the odds are as uneven for SJ and Crzy as they were for Jesus and Satan. << if anyone in this fandom is going to profit off of lying and deceit, it'll be me>>: Forget Xanatos. At the next Masquerade, you should be Don King.

Gside: <<Only need to write an assembly loop>>: Just one? <<But there are many breeds of evil>>: Most of them will see the benefits of working with me. <<The point of just about every engineering department is to make something bigger, faster, and/or insanely small>>: Cool, isn't it? <<Why doesn't that ever happen here>>: Speak for yourself. <>: Here's a better one. I live with 3 programmers. <<they're charging us (divided) $1500 or so for the thing>>: SUCK! <<you got it worse>>: Damn straight. <<is it as fun>>: Depends on who you talk to. My friend Vinay would probably say yes. <<Can't I still be happening imagining a plain nude? Or for a Leda picture>>: This is Niamhgold we're talking about. <<Shouldn't you be worried if I didn't think something like that>>: I don't think "worried" is the right word. <<We shall see>>: ::whistles music from "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly":: <<Only if it's the median. It doesn't have to work out if it's a mean>>: Don't start with me. We just got to the integral definitions of mean and median in stat. <>: Quiet, you. <<it doesn't line up exactly with the months, and gradually walks through them as time goes on>>: Women are always trying to keep us on our toes.

Okay folks, naptime!

Bridges in Kansas? No, but I have some ships from the Swiss Navy!
-Warpmind de InzanE, at Gathering 2001

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 03:25:12 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Well, my work is coming along pretty well. Only need to write an assembly loop, and I'll be done for the week.
Now I have a largish catchup post to work on.

Imzadi> <<Hopefully evil, then he can help me out>>: But there are many breeds of evil.
<<We're engineers. We don't understand subtlety>>: Why did you think we chose fields where we can make large phalic structures or blindingly fast processors? The point of just about every engineering department is to make something bigger, faster, and/or insanely small.
<<Or there was an orgy being held in your room>>: Why doesn't that ever happen here? Right, I live with engineers. But one of us is in bio.
<<Tit bit nipply in here...>>: And now they're charging us (divided) $1500 or so for the thing.
<<Depends on the guy>>: For example, if it were me...
<>: Yeah, you got it worse.
<<I'm sure acid works faster>>: But is it as fun?
<>: Can't I still be happening imagining a plain nude? Or for a Leda picture?
<<Both groups for me>>: I have been wronged, but I don't like to think I've been jaded.
<<IE 5.1 supports that too...but its a hassle>>: Netscape does it pretty well, comes up in a context menu for prefilling and storing for data.

Naimhgold> <<you can see your hand?>>: At five inches.
<<Oh, for the love of...>>: What? Shouldn't you be worried if I didn't think something like that?
<<Does that deserve a point?>>: I don't think it's embittered me.
<<Next time...the CR shall be mine>>: We shall see.

DPH> <<why do we associate right with the color 'White' and wrong with the color 'Black'?>>: Because it fits nicely with light and purity.

Jan> <<A rebel type medical examiner that likes serving crimes>>: Quincy?

Imzadi> <<by definition only 50% of men can be above average>>: Only if it's the median. It doesn't have to work out if it's a mean.
<<How many existentialists does it take to change a light bulb? FISH!>>: I thought it was Dadaists.

Warpmind> <<avoid snide comments to Aingeal around the end of the month>>: But the problem is that it doesn't line up exactly with the months, and gradually walks through them as time goes on.
<<but not in the way your guttermind would suggest>>: You should have expected that when you said it.

Niamhgold> <<here's your link>>: Fewer colors than I imagined, and the forward arm looks off.

More hippie music this time, you can thank Anon's last line for reminding me of the title. Creedence's Someday Never Comes.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, October 3, 2001 12:32:52 AM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

Made it through the inservice. Ugh. At least this company uses fairly lively speakers instead of some of the droners I've seen. Passed the time writing longhand, haven't done that in a while, got eight pages of a new Guardians fanfic before my hand got too sore.

Progress report > the Black Roses saga goes on; while RAP doesn't have a specific horror imprint, they've agreed to take a look at mine! So this weekend, I'll be submitting it to them. With luck, they'll sign the Trinity Bay books as well. I'm so very tired of the grinding millstone of queries and rejections. All I want to do is write the books, send them off, and see them in print. If it happens to bring in a bit of cash, huzzah, but that's not why I'm doing this. In other news, I got the galley proofs for my zombie story (I'm fourth or fifth in the table of contents, too!) and sent those back, so The Book of All Flesh is coming along apace. And just for the heck of it, I'll be entering Archmage of the Universe in the Writer's Digest self-published book of the year contest. Who knows? Worth a try. In the meantime, I'm working on a couple of short stories to try sending in for anthologies, plus this fanfic. Then I'll go back and see about finishing Changeling Moon, which had stalled.

Enterprise > better late than never; I'm taking the tape to work tonight so I can finally watch it!

SJ and Jen are going to duke it out? Someone bring a video camera for those of us who won't be in attendance! No offense to the lovely Sorow and Dreamie, but that's more along the lines of what I'd rather see for my unofficial Gathering entertainment. Now, if some of the equivalently hunky _guys_ of the fandom were going to dance, that'd be another story ... ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 11:46:20 PM
IP: 06-102.075.popsite.net

Sorry to double post but Anonymous you put a big post about religion and its placment in the SEP 11 bombing and you still won't post your name?

WHO ARE YOU!

Post a name doofy
Spacebabie
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 11:01:25 PM
IP: proxy.ord.netsetter.com

SJ< Ah, got'cha understanding now. But then, anyone who acts anyway just to be cool is kinda loser anyway, regardless of what they do. But I understand what you meant.

DPH< <<A few years ago, there was a GIANT petition drive to bring back gargoyles and well, you can guess the results. >>

*sigh*

*back to writing her Hinduism paper, due in 11 hours*
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:58:57 PM
IP: pc169-45.drew.edu

What a day I woke up with this binding headache and when I started to walk around I got nauseus. So I took a couple of pain killers and collapsed back in bed, thus missing class. I slept till it was nearly two P.M. and when I woke up...IT was delivered, by It I mean the New Computer. My brother assembld it and it looks pretty cool. We ARE having problems accesing the net. Well I got the old computer into my room and realized the moniter was too big for my desk... So I moved my stand for my muscic center to where my tv is and placed the tv, Music center and Speakers on it. Then I moved my old tv stand to where my music was and rebulit the old computer, so I'm posting this from my bed room. Oh I also banged my toes into the wall and they hurt.

***************SPOILERS FOR ANGEL AND BUFFY*****************
Angel was good, i liked Fred's development and like everyone else I enjoyed the bit with Angel and Skip. Cordy's malady was pretty freakish and I wonder who is that guy Angel freed from that prison.
Buffy...I'm going to miss Giles and Spike ruled as usual. Xander looked quite buff, its obvious Nick Brendon worked out. I don't really like that hiar though. Anya was kinda funny she can't wait to make the announcement. The demon bikers were ok and The mment between Buffy and Dawn were touching, and was I the only one who wasn't freaked out with that snake comming out of Willow's mouth?
*****************END SPOILERS*******************************
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:56:57 PM
IP: proxy.ord.netsetter.com

What I am going to say? I guess something.

I have good news and bad news. The good news is I no longer have a racoon problem. Guess what the bad news is.

Ok. Since the argument is being prepared for peace is pointless, at what point are we advanced enough?

I actually think no person is interested in spring's post. A few years ago, there was a GIANT petition drive to bring back gargoyles and well, you can guess the results.

SJ - Are you implying the SBC's really don't like the Catholic? Aside from the fact a few Southern Baptist think some things Catholics do are crazy, we don't have plans to take them over.

4-3=1

don't feel like chatting much more. It's time for . . . . a certain cat to get out of my window.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:44:43 PM
IP: max1-39.cwy.cei.net

Terror shakes faith, puts God in
question

So how could God have allowed this to happen?

Standing uneasily at the altar, the minister explained that he had
come to a conclusion about that, one he didn't expect us to like.
Maybe, he said, God allowed the planes to be stolen, and the people
to die, because He was helpless to stop it. Maybe He didn't have the
power.

The silence was as sudden as it was stunned. No one said Amen.
No one stirred. Nothing moved. He went on speaking. Two women
quietly gathered their things and left.

My wife and I turned to each other. She wanted to follow them as an
act of protest. I wanted to stay as an act of faith.

But as the sermon went on, it became clear that faith would not be
rewarded. This wasn't some clever speaker using a daring rhetorical
device. This was just what it seemed to be: a man of God publicly
struggling with a crisis of conviction. Of all I've seen in the wake of
Sept. 11, this was, in some ways, the most dismaying.

DOUBLE MEANING

It occurs to me that we've spent a lot of time these past days toting
up all that has changed in our world as a result of that awful Tuesday
morning. Comedy. Sports. Travel. But I get the sense that, in ways
as unremarked upon as they are profound, faith was changed as
well. In churches, synagogues and mosques, people are left to define
and defend what it means to believe in a world where belief suddenly
seems either a weapon of war or an act of futility.

After all, the men who hijacked the planes thought they acted at the
behest of Allah. And Jerry Falwell, a Christian minister, claims their
attack represents God's verdict on the ACLU and other bogeymen of
the right wing. Meanwhile, there's a posting on the Internet that asks,
plainly and plaintively, ``Where Was God?'' And now, there's a
minister at my church who thinks God was simply not able. We gaze
upon wreckage and ruin and struggle to see the hand of the deity.

But maybe that's not the worst thing in the world.

It occurs to me that God, especially in times of crisis, has more
spokespersons than Amway. Some simply seek to divine the divine.
Others claim to know His mind and motives as surely as if they had
read His diary.

But so many times what you discover is that people have created
God in their own image. That they interpret Him according to their
petty biases and predispositions, attribute to him their political party
and ball team, their motivations and hatreds, their timetable and
comprehension.

Maybe it's good to be reminded sometimes that mortality can't
fathom eternity, nor limitation comprehend endlessness. Maybe it's
good that we are sometimes forced to say words we are loathe to
say, ``I don't know.''

JUST DON'T KNOW

So go on, ask me why the terrorists succeeded. Or, for that matter,
why the Jews were slaughtered and the Africans kidnapped. Ask why
innocents die cruelly while the cruel live long and well. Why pain
happens in the name of God. Why the world makes so little sense.

I don't know. I just don't know.

It's a humbling thing to say. Makes you feel less sure of your own
powers, less in control of your own world. Makes you feel like a child
lying awake in the scary dark, trusting the adults to know what's
going on and how to make it better. Which is precisely the point. I'm
reminded of the refrain from a little-known rock song: ``The less I
believe in me, the more I believe in thee.''

Some people will never believe. Some people will always believe
without question. And some people -- most of us, I suspect -- will
always believe with question.

We shake our fists at God for daring to live outside our imaginings.
We curse the skies for raining down unfair misfortunes. We see
suffering and wonder why.

Like that child in the dark, we struggle to learn how to rest at peace
with things we don't know. And how to rely on the one thing we do.

Always, morning comes.
Anonymous
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:43:11 PM
IP: 0-1pool113-224.nas1.austin1.tx.us.da.qwest.net

Carolynn Marie: ::chuckles:: Mom's family came over years ago, and she just found out that they were Irish... i am hoping to learn gaelic however.... I konw a lil bit.... (note my name :)..) I'm hoping to learn more... as well as visiting the country later in life....

I've got to run... laters!

Aingeal
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:32:57 PM
IP: 207.42.162.141

Just one more comment to make.

There's been a lot of talk about the Crzy-SJ big fight at the Gathering. Now I know a lot of people are looking forward to this, but I advise you all against betting money on this one.

If I know anything about Jen and SJ, it's that they're just as evil as I am. And I'm as evil as the Devil. Those of us who are "South Park" fans would remember that when the Devil fought Jesus in the big fight (before he became a pussy in the movie), the Devil was the only one who bet on Jesus and threw the fight and went back to Hell with everyone's money.

Now, if I were going to be in a fight that involved gambling, I'd do the same thing. And if I'm evil enough to do it, so are Jen and SJ. So no one gamble here.

Sorry Jen and SJ, but if anyone in this fandom is going to profit off of lying and deceit, it'll be me ;)
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:29:44 PM
IP: dialin-907-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

*** BUFFY SPOILERS ****

Decent opening, like SJ said nothing spectacular. Was no where near as good as the first two episodes of "Angel".

Spike got all the great lines of course. While I like the badass Spike of seasons two, three and four better, he's still the best thing the series has going. Still my favorite character.

Sorry to see Giles goe, but reportidly, we should be seeing him occasionally. At least I hope so, he was one of my favorite characters, and really became badass when he killed Ben last season.

I don't think Tara is going to be the one to die. Too predictable since she's not a regular. Willow seems the most likely considering how powerful she's getting. And if she becomes the season's big bad, then she's dead for sure.

I also hope that there are real consequences to Buffy's resurrection and it's not just brushed off. But I trust Joss to do a good job.

Over all, I give it 7 out of 10.

*** END SPOILERS ***
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:17:24 PM
IP: dialin-907-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

** Niamhgold enters briefly **

All right, Warpmind, here's your link...but be kind :) I'm sure you'll be sorely disappointed ;)

Adios!
Niamhgold
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:15:32 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

SJ's Rant of the Day �: Well, everyone, please, sleep easy tonight, the Emmy awards will have extra security to protect the stars. Thank God.
I've joked endlessly about the ego of Hollywood, but c'mon. This is unreal. Do we need to worry about the stars? Are the terrorists beating down doors to get at our "beloved entertainers"? I'm sure that Osama Bin Laden is sitting in his cave over there and going, "Hmm�.I could try to kill President Bush or some of the other American heads of state�..or I could kill Kelsey Grammer. I know my choice; Frasier it is!"
It's disgusting. Honestly, if on the 11th the terrorists hadn't bombed the WTC / Pentagon, but instead had just bombed�say, Tom Cruise�.well, in that case, *I* might be out there protesting the war.

Entity: <<I'm disturbed. People are talking about employment of nuclear arms on the same level as they are suggesting we bomb Afghanistan�..Well, by God man, have decades of speculative fiction done nothing for our senses of apocalyptic reason?>> I know I'm just opening myself WIDE open for criticism here�.
�.but I wouldn't really mind a nuke being dropped. We already know they're planning the exact same thing on us. If we do�.well, it'd prove we're absolutely f!cking insane. And for some reason, that strikes me as appealing.

Oh, and all apologies to Siofra and Gunjack and anyone else who found the preceding paragraph offensive because of my evil, foul, potty mouth.

Lain: <> It's not a matter of want, it's more a matter of human nature. Humans will never be pacifists, because it's not in us, genetically, socially, psychologically. The reason we're so violent and aggressive is to ensure our survival. That's never going to change. Utopia will NEVER exist, not because we don't want it too, but rather because no matter how hard we try, we'll never be able to achieve it because it's not in our nature to do so. <<However, the fact that some people choose the later is a testiment to the fact that it IS in human nature to do that, just the same as it IS in human nature NOT to do that. its a choice.>> Humans can only overcome so much of their genetics and / or conditioning. I know you don't believe in evil, but the capacity for war (or aggressiveness or violence) exists in the heart and mind of the average human being is MUCH greater than the capacity for peace.
Furthermore, pacifism as a way of life only works when it exists within a greater culture that embraces non-pacifism. You can sit at home and feel good about yourself because you're a pacifist, but you live in a country that is capable of and would go to war if need be.
I'm sorry, I'm too much of a cynic. The only thing pacifism will get you is ensured death at the hands of a non-pacifist.

Josh: <<Maxim also says that 67% of women are unsatisfied with their lover's...uh...size. This is a problem, since by definition only 50% of men can be above average.>> It's only a problem if you really care about the woman's satisfaction. <<Why!? The average American citizen is a moron. You HATE the average american civilian.>> Well, when you put it that way�.damn your logic! It's too logical!!! <<Everything was fine with that sentence except for the words "Winterwolf to let".>> I know. Now I'm waiting for the hammer to drop. <: Yes you do.>> You're right. I mean, I'm right. I can't argue with myself! <> I prayed to the gods of Santeria and slaughtered a chicken in your name.

Aingeal: Maybe I can book you and Josh as the undercard to my main event fight with Crzy.

Carolynn: <<That's your opinion and that's cool. But lemme tell you something: my best friend in middle school was black and came Paterson, NJ, but she didn't sound like she did cuz she had a real nice way of talking. I wasn't there when it happened, but one day someone told her to stop acting and speaking like a white person and to stay in her place, and it really hurt her. So I don't make judgements on anyone based on "how they act like a such-and-such>> I don't make judgements about black people who are perceived as being "too white". What should they act like, Nelly?
I do find wiggers infinitely amusing, however. Because, c'mon, there's a difference in embracing different cultures because you enjoy them, and embracing a different culture because you believe it will make you cool (or kewl!) or part of the "in-crowd". That's counterfeit. I mean, if a white kid acted "black" because he grew up in an urban environment where "acting black" WAS *his* culture, then more power too him. If he's a suburban white kid wearing Puff Daddy apparel and acting like he's the long lost third member of Outkast because he wants to be popular, they don't deserve my respect.
<> See, now, I kind of do like Eminem. Cause even though he's a relatively dumb-ass wigger, he does his best to just piss off everyone. I can relate to that.

Jim R.: <<Feel free to check out my Demona music video.>> There's a sentence I never thought I'd hear.

***ANGEL REVIEW***
I'm too tired to get into this in depth. Needless to say, good episode, and if all of the episodes this season are this good or better, than I'll be happy.

Can't wait to see what becomes of Darla's pregnancy, or with the guy who got sprung from the Hell dimension by Angel. Methinks that he'll probably be this season's Big Bad, or at least one of them.

Oh, and yeah, I agree, the exchange between Angel and Skip was pretty damn good. The writing team is on their game for the first couple eps this season.
***END REVIEW***

***BUFFY REVIEW***
Boy, feels good to type that again.

Well, this isn't so much a review as it is just some thoughts on the season premiere.

Overall, I thought it was a pretty decent episode. Nothing spectacular, mind you, but okay. This entire two-parter was basically just to bring Buffy back, and, well, it did that�the whole demon biker thing was okay, but somewhat uninspired. I'm just waiting for the show to get back into the groove so that we can get on with the metaplot for the season.

Some random thoughts:
*It's already apparent that Giles won't be around much (if at all) this season, as Anthony is out of the opening credits. Amber isn't in the opening credits either, which gives me hope that it's going to be her that dies this season instead of one of the others (as previously reported, sources say that a major Buffy character will die this season, for good, no resurrection).
* Willow and Tara have been raising Dawn, opening up the door for dozens of "questionable parentage" jokes that I would never have the nerve to say.
* Willow's level of magic�..black magic, at that�.is really getting disturbing, which would make perfect sense if she's this season's "Big Bad", as rumoured.
*Was part of the magic spell that Buffy's body was restored, intact? Cause why else would she not have decomposed? You'd have thought that they would have embalmed her for the funeral, at least.
* Good to see that Xander worked out over the summer. Not that I would, ahem, notice�.but no more big ass shirts to hide the bitch tits.
*Hail to Ebay! Boy, you can buy anything off of there. I hear Bin Laden's looking for a nuke. I think iscream22 was auctioning one off the other day.
*About the demon biker gang��glad to see the guys from Slipknot making their television debut!
* The humor was still there, with Spike, as usual, getting most of the best lines. "Cup o' tea, cup o' tea, time I almost got shagged, cup o' tea�"
*Did Willow really use the obfuscate spell?
* Finally, this reference is for you WoD fans: Buffy is now a Sabbat. Welcome to service in the Black Hand, babe.
***END REVIEW***

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:02:51 PM
IP: 66-44-57-196.s450.tnt2.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Hey Winterwolf! Do you still have that pic of me and Dreamie together from the Gathering? Will you please send it to me?
SOROW
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 09:21:14 PM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

Hello everyone! Well the time is here. After a year of Korea it's time to go back to the states. Washington State here I come. My plane leaves tonight so I probably won't be posting until I get settled (a week perhaps less). Don't worry about me I'm not afraid of flying and never have been.

Be back soon.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 09:17:43 PM
IP: 210.91.100.8

Feel free to check out my Demona music video. It's my first attempt at doing a music video. Click my name. It's quite large though, so I hope you're packing a broadband connection, otherwise it should take about 1 hour & 8 minutes for 56k modem. Thanks, enjoy.
Jim R. - [<--Music video]
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 09:02:38 PM
IP: lwby-85ppp117.epix.net

AINGEAL< Wow, cool stuff :) I really like the lower right-hand corner one. That's my fave.
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin]
Madison, NJ, USA
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 06:48:28 PM
IP: pc169-45.drew.edu

EVERYBODY< In light of Spring's post about emailing Disney about Gargoyles, there's a website at www.petitiononline.com where you can create your own petition about anything *ahem* It has possibilities, you think? Anybody interested?

SJ< <<I'm sorry, call me evil and uncivilized, but there's NOTHING sadder than a white boy acting like he's a black kid. Reference: Fred Durst, Eminem, Vanilla Ice, Marky Mark, Whitey Ford, the list grows and grows. Please, you're all white suburban kids. You don't know the struggle, okay? >>
That's your opinion and that's cool. But lemme tell you something: my best friend in middle school was black and came Paterson, NJ, but she didn't sound like she did cuz she had a real nice way of talking. I wasn't there when it happened, but one day someone told her to stop acting and speaking like a white person and to stay in her place, and it really hurt her. So I don't make judgements on anyone based on "how they act like a such-and-such". I don't like Eminem, either, but that's cuz he's a gay-bashing, wife-beating ass...

AINGEAL< Mom's best friend was born in Ireland and still has the accent, and kids have to study Gaelic in school. Hannah says learning the writing is a bitch cuz nothing sounds the way it's written (well, neither's English, but you get my meaning) ;) Does your mom speak Gaelic?

ENTITY< <<I'm hoping this talk is limited to the populous, and not present in any U.S. counsel chamber, because (and I hope this is something we can ALL agree on) using nukes is just... Well, by God man, have decades of speculative fiction done nothing for our senses of apocalyptic reason? >>

Kid across my hall was watching "Independence Day" yesterday and had it on full volume, including the part where the aliens nuke the major cities of the world. I had to scream, "TURN IT OFF!!!" cuz I don't even like watching this stuff for entertainment anymore ... where are you hearing all this? Newspapers? That just frightens me ...

JOSH< <<Baldy: I don't think a howitzer is an "everyday" item. 8-) >> Unless you're from Miami. <<maybe I could try to explain the physics of a keg>>: Perfect for my fluid dynamics class. >> And then you could explain the physics of "what goes down, must come up" <<<<My psychology exam sucked hard!>>: I have no appropriate reply to that (well, it is appropriate, just not for the CR). >> *LOL*!

WARPMIND< Hmm, intriguing idea ... has merit, and much more interesting than paper clips ;)

CHRISTINE< Ugh, requirements suck ... good luck

JAN< Can't say I feel sorry for the SOB. Saves taxes, saves heartache ... hope the guy remembered to pack his sunscreen. Where he's going, he'll need it.

SPRING< Hmm, I'll checkit out.

*L* *watching "Just Shoot Me"* I loved David Spade ... and my, my, but does the boss's brunette daughter seem familiar ... ;)
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 06:45:06 PM
IP: pc169-45.drew.edu

This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from "The Critic", truly one of the world's better cartoons.

"I wonder what she looks like naked"
"What?"
"I said, 'I wonder what she cooks like...naked...'"
Josh
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 06:33:27 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

I just noticed that the Monthly Gargoyles Contest is down. Now I can't get to my fav pictures, phooey!
Josh> Hahaha.
SJ> I think you'd better get Dreamie's input on that.
What do you say guys, how many of you are willing to pay for a video of me and Dreamie...dancing?
SOROW - [allison.abadie@mail.utexas.edu]
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 06:31:14 PM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

Niamhgold: Thanks... and i didn't want Josh's cause I figured he'd pick a fight... since he didn't.. i may have to give him points on the "not as immature as i thought from previous experience" scale...

Yes.. i love Celtic heritage... just wish i had more of my own... mom's got irish on her side tho. I mostly love the knotwork, and the myths, etc.

Josh: I like rainbows, but the main reason thats running is because they're based from color theory assignments... so... not much I could do... I'll let you know what I've got stuff i did for myself.... I like most of that better.

Thanks to the rest of those who commented... i like fedback.

::keeps perched and watching since her head hurts too much to do more::
Aingeal
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 06:13:23 PM
IP: 207.42.162.141

***More Terrorist Babble***

I'm disturbed. People are talking about employment of nuclear arms on the same level as they are suggesting we bomb Afghanistan. I clutch onto the assumption that our government would never, ever, EVER employ nuclear arms, but then...

I'm hoping this talk is limited to the populous, and not present in any U.S. counsel chamber, because (and I hope this is something we can ALL agree on) using nukes is just... Well, by God man, have decades of speculative fiction done nothing for our senses of apocalyptic reason?

***End Terrorist Babble***
Entity
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 05:36:58 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

Niamhgold> I'd definately would like to see this witchblade picture as well. I'm a major fan of the comic series.

Todd> <<Incidentally, the new Wolfram & Hart guy is named Gavin, though I forgot his last name>> *smirks* how very interesting and strange....
Gavin
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 05:22:38 PM
IP: dh171.scarlett.mtsu.edu

aaaaaaaany day now, i should be getting a net connection at home.. aaaaaaaaaaaaaany day... *hope hope*

yeah.. so im all mad at you guys cos you see buffy and angel before me : P we still get it on tuesdays, so buffy starts tonight. guess who has 50 sketchbook assignments to do?? that would be me. gah. stupid classes..

moochies computer is down, thats why you havent heard from him, either. that virus ate his computer or something something.. we arent leaving you, you arent that lucky ; ) were just computer-less and busy.

*reads over sjs comments about pacefism* aaah well, since im a pacefist, ill just smile and not get insulted ; )
(either that or im in a REALLY good mood for some reason.. i have no clue why, though.. )
however, i would argue that the reason why pacefism is a "great idea that doesnt work" is because people really dont WANT it to work. i agree with you that many people would much rather be aggressive and dominant, rather than passive and subserviant. however, the fact that some people choose the later is a testiment to the fact that it IS in human nature to do that, just the same as it IS in human nature NOT to do that. its a choice. i know perfectly well that i can be just as aggressive as the next, i just choose not to do that. its in my nature to be both, and i make the choice. i guess either is a valid choice, i just think mines better cos i picked it.. ; )

must go!
love,
lain
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 04:13:51 PM
IP: 198.96.83.63

Woohoo! One midterm done, four to go!

Baldy: I don't think a howitzer is an "everyday" item. 8-)
Josh
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 03:37:39 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

** Niamhgold enters **

Aingeal: Nice Celtic work on the page...my fave? I think it's the piece called LgCorner.jpg (the purple corner piece with the black/metallic rippled background. Are you very much into Celtic heritage? <anyway... Imzy.. i dont want to hear from you> Aww, come on, the guy actually has really good opinions on art. And he hasn't been treating you or your friends any worse than he treats the rest of the populace ;)

Warpmind: All right, I'll upload it ;) Actually, it's probably not half as indecent as everyone's wondering...after all, it's ME as Witchblade, not Sara Pezzini ;) Link to be posted later

Adios!
Niamhgold
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 02:42:36 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

*Warpmind enters, a sabre strapped to his belt, and a tanto strapped to his back.*
Hey, gang. Finally got a pair of decent swords this Saturday. Cost me, oh, about a hundred at an auction - a decent price, I reckon, when I look at the steel and appearance. (Very good replicas - the tanto's not from Feudal Japan, which is a small letdown, but at around 45$, that's hardly to expect...)

Anyway, post...

Crzy: I'm not likely to ever USE Squiffy, have no fear. ;) Well, of course, DC and friends being the notable exceptions... };) *Hides Squiffy in a box of sapient pearwood.*

*Glances at the flare-up between Josh and Aingeal.* Note to self: avoid snide comments to Aingeal around the end of the month...

Gside: The composer still is... but not in the way your guttermind would suggest.

Josh: Remember, the circuitry's bound to be pretty damn CHEAP! So it only lasts a little while, big deal. With more being made each day, it gould go on indefinitely, y'know? };)

Fleur: I know how creativity demons are. Mine are almost invariably crueler punsters than I am... which was quite impractical this weekend, at a seminar mostly assembled from fairly humorless individuals... };)

Carolynn Marie/Tim: You make jokes about Puck's uh, inclinations... have you ever considered that he might be Alexander's godfather? Consider THAT possibility. };)

Niamhgold: Lifesize self-portrait as Witchblade? *Silly smile* As for not wanting to show it off... aw, c'mon, with some of the gutterminds here, it can't be any *more* embareassing than what our collective hormones can come up with? };) As for Squiffy - it's a rather, uh, bizarre looking weapon. See further down in last week's CR...

Green Baron: Actually, as far as I recall, sending longboats into Afghanistan might be quite an impressive feat - does the country even HAVE a coastline? I mean, if there are sufficiently big rivers there, fair enough, but we're hardly likely to WALK hundreds of miles to plunder. After all, we've got to get back to the boat with the loot, too, you know. };)

Spacebabie: Yer brother needs to keep his own nose clean. As for exposing Bin Laden to a "to the Pain" type of punishment... well... let's sic Westley at'im right away, hmmm? }:)

Carolynn Marie: Explain the physics of an everyday item? Simple; explain the entire mechanics in a howitzer, from the loading to the firing mechanism, and why there's no notable recoil in the thing. THAT makes for interesting speculations on your spare time, let me tell you. };)

Well, that about concludes my post for now. Cheerio. *Wanders out, and on the way stabs DC with both tanto and sabre in a fluid motion, then pulls the blades back, noting the wounds with a certain degree of satisfaction before leaving.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 01:09:18 PM
IP: mp-217-207-232.daxnet.no

Whoa, proofread thine own posts. Especially when you post them when it's late and you're tired.

In my post, I said "I'm implying that all Arabs or Middle Eastern types are bad."

What I MEANT to do was add a word in there. "not". As in, "I'm NOT implying that all Arabs or Middle Eastern Types are bad."

Sorry for the interruption, but I just realized that failure to make that correction could cause me some problems down the road.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:57:29 AM
IP: 66-44-68-101.s101.tnt8.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Finally back. Our computer up and croaked, so now it's all been reformatted and reinstalled and is mostly back in working order (lost our bookmarks, though, darn it).

I get to go to an inservice today, whee, Understanding Depression; after 11 years with the agency, being required to get 24 hours of inservice credit per year -- while the agency generously allows 8 hours work time for it and 100 bucks, figures that haven't changed in all this time while the average cost for 1 8-hour inservice is from 75-150 dollars -- this will be my 4th or 5th on Understanding Depression. Ugh. I'm taking a book.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 10:42:00 AM
IP: 16-193.075.popsite.net

quickie before work...

Josh> <> Naw, that's called being a lazyass ;D I go to church at 11am on Sundays so I get to sleep in late. During the weekdays, I get up at 5:30am - when I sleep in, late for me is around 8:30am.
<> So true, so true *sighs* At least she doesn't have to deal with all of this with him still around.

Patrick> *LOL*

SJ> Thank you!

argh, time for work already.... as the officers say, "so many criminals, so few bullets.."
Jan
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 07:58:15 AM
IP: modem16-14.mo-net.com

SJ > "I have to say, I really enjoyed Pat's article (you get points for it being a Washington Post article, Pat)." -- So if I save up my points, is there a GOP gift shop I can redeem them at? ;)
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 07:13:10 AM
IP: ac9537e2.ipt.aol.com

* ANGEL SPOILERS *

I quite liked last night's episode myself. I agree with you, Bishansky, that the dialogue between Angel and Skip was very funny (though it also made me feel that it was a pity that they wound up fighting each other, seeing how well they were getting along up till then. That's one of the problems with war; you wind up fighting against people whom you could otherwise have made friends with).

I also liked seeing the Host again (and I can't say that I'm surprised by his "Sound of Music" fondness). Cordelia's side-effects were decidedly creepy.

And I'm still looking forward to finding out more about how Darla got pregnant by Angel, when they're both vampires.

Incidentally, the new Wolfram & Hart guy is named Gavin, though I forgot his last name.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 06:57:07 AM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup259.dialsprint.net

Ugh, my head hurts.

The good news is that I got some of my stuff out of the way. I handed in my lab (I think I made a minor error reading the data, but since the data fluctuated periodically it shouldn't affect my calculations at all). I also took my two quizzes. That leaves three midterms and three problem sets...this week.

My materials homework was postponed till Monday, which is good for me. That'll give me time to study for the materials midterm instead. But boy is this weekend gonna suck ass.

But if I can just get through the next 8 days...all will be good. For about 3 weeks...

After classes from 10 to 4 and a review from 6 to 8, I was about ready to call it a night...but I couldn't (even though, technically, it WAS night). More studying to be done.

Maxim Magazine (the dispenser of all truth on planet earth) declared Apple's iBook the ultimate geek toy. Its a "lap dancer so sexy we nearly electrocuted ourselves giving it a tongue bath...it's the ultimate geek toy! Good luck getting work done." And as any true geek knows...you CAN run linux on it...or you can use a REAL OS ;-)

Maxim also says that 67% of women are unsatisfied with their lover's...uh...size. This is a problem, since by definition only 50% of men can be above average.

Anyway, to replies!

Patrick: Wow, cool article. A good point by the author about how being a pacifist makes you pro-"them". <<why won't you leave us alone>>: Because you're a bunch of bastards ;-)

Jan: <<all said that with a smile on their faces, too>>: I bet they did. Some cops definitely get off on knowing whats gonna happen AFTER the crook leaves their custody. <>: Whatever! You wake up on Sunday Mornings to go to church! I wake up at 3-5PM on Sunday! THAT is not being a morning person. <<with counseling will (hopefully) be able to move on past the abuse she endured from him>>: I have bad news for you: no one EVER fully "moves on" past that. It will forever affect her interactions with others, her relationships, her trust, etc. It sucks, but its the case.

Mooncat: <<have had rocks flung at me by little white supremist children as I walked home from school>>: Whoa. That sucks. And I thought being teased for being short sucked. <<"What are you? Indian? Mexican? Iranian?" etc. In most cases this is completely benign, innocent curiousity>>: I had a teacher who was always really offended by the question. To her, it was as if people were saying "YOU ARE DIFFERENT, WHY?" <<Lets kill all the foriegn students>>: But then who would populate our colleges?

Lynati: <>: I told you to stop playing near the nuclear power plant. <<your pro'ly gonna make a crack about liking Tracy Chapman now>>: I probably would...if I'd ever listened to Tracy. I have zero opinion, since I've never heard the music. <<Why did her worst song get the most airplay, anyway?>>: Welcome to the wide world of radio. <>: I sense bitterness.

Carolynn Marie: <<It used to be wedged in-between Turkey and a few other Middle Eastern countries, to the right of Greece>>: Just once, I'd like to say "I'm Mesopotamian." <<Screw it all, we're all one species anyway>>: All evidence to the contrary. <<And I thought I had it bad>>: You have no idea. <<take something like paper clips and fill up four to six pages about how things like forces are used to hold the paper in place>>: Oh THAT sounds like a blast. <<maybe I could try to explain the physics of a keg>>: Perfect for my fluid dynamics class. <<College is awesome ... wish high school was like this>>: If high school was like College, I'd never have gotten INTO college!

The Wizard: <<as if the three giant fish sculptures weren't enough, there are now four. Way to show your patriotism, Tony>>: Reminds me of one of my favorite jokes. How many existentialists does it take to change a light bulb? FISH! <<Not to mention I have 5040 keyframes of animation to hand-render in the next few weeks, an art history exam AND paper, my illustration assignment, and my Narrative thesis to finish. I just love midterms>>: You don't know what pain IS! <<she's been having severe side-effects with her, *ahem*, pills>>: Well now that she's on them she's all lined up for acutane...though I guess if she's USING them she doesn't really need acutane. <<You've made the top of my posting list again>>: Joy! <<Just envision the dates October 15th, when it'll all be over with>>: Actually it'll all be overwith on the 12th, but that's not important. <<it might actually be on the up-trend by the time we graduate>>: In time, everything. <<Do you know the correct way to wrap a toga>>: It amazing what you can do with a couple of safety pins. <<yeah, a BMW? That's ridiculous ;) Not unfashionable, mind you, but ridiculous>>: I'm sure my dad's X5 would have handled it nicely. <<the aesthetics of mixing alcohol with a libido>>: She didn't have anything to drink until AFTER she dressed like that. <>: Wuss. <<Thing's a bit heavy, and if you say you can't fill out a toga>>: I can lift an ATX case. Hell, I carried my G4 up and down 4 flights of stairs... <<Depends how dirty you were thinking>>: You know me. <<Now are we talking male computer geeks or female computer geeks>>: Male. Female computer geeks are usually nice. All the time. <<Isn't that a good thing? It means I have the potential to rival you for world domination>>: Then that would be a BAD THING (TM). <<How can you sorta think about sex?>>: When you understand that, you'll have a complete map of how I tick. <<Because, as my roommate says, I rock>>: Oh yeah? Well iDVD, iTunes, and iMac. Oh, and lets not forget iBook. <<Uh...interesting>>: Scary, actually. <>: You're thinking of a hard drivER ;-) <<Men are not meant to ignore women>>: So I've noticed. <<men's brain wavelength readings are equal to the wavelength readings picked up when Jell-0 is jiggled>>: I'm shocked. I think that's the same reading when breasts jiggle, right? <<good luck with that, given the interesting facets of female biology>>: I'm an engineer. I can map anything. <<It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out>>: That wasn't funny. <<Isn't that some sort of cruel punishment>>: Not anymore. Now its a treat. <<Oh, for the love of>>: Heh heh. <<Next time...the CR shall be mine>>: All of us? Kinky.

DPH: <>: I lie. <<care to specify when you want the flight in the ultraheavy>>: After midterms would be fine. <<if I incorporated myself as a business, I could pay less money in taxes because I could claim all my living expenses as neccessary business expenses>>: Well, not ALL of them, but certainly internet, computer, and phone expenses. The problem is that you cannot write off EVERYTHING. <<why do we associate right with the color 'White' and wrong with the color 'Black'?>>: Probably because we associate black with darkness, and darkness with the unkown/dangerous. Personally I don't associate right/wrong with any colors, but that seems logical.

Metaldemon: <<Querry Men>>: They ask too many questions? (sorry, but I couldn't resist poking fun at that typo).

Spring: Spam Spam Spam Spam

SOROW: <<My psychology exam sucked hard!>>: I have no appropriate reply to that (well, it is appropriate, just not for the CR).

SJ: Damnit, stop posting when I have midterms! It distracts me. <<their major source of income is peddling heroin>>: Oh, if only I'd gotten into the drug trade sooner. I'd have so much more cash to spend. <<my opinion is more valuable than yours>>: Well, certainly no more valuable than mine...since it IS mine. <<Okay, I'm not>>: Didn't think so! <<I'm NOT as concerned with their welfare as I am the welfare of the average American civilian>>: Why!? The average american citizen is a moron. You HATE the average american civilian. <<Pacifism never has, and never will, EVER, work in the real world. Because that's not how the world works.>>: THANK YOU. <<unless, of course, you are one. A little girl, that is>>: So many comments, so little time. <<No one enjoys the violence>>: I do! <>: You should come to school here. <<The Guys Who Were Here Originally, Until You Euro-trash Screwed Us Out of Everything.>>: Yeah, only the jews should be called "the people" ;-) <<PLEASE, not again with the Gargoyle analogies>>: Definitely. Cartoon analogies are interesting, but its is a CARTOON, and by definition NOT REAL. <<Unless you're a wigger>>: then asses will be kicked. <<there's NOTHING sadder than a white boy acting like he's a black kid>>: I believe George Carlin said it best: "White guys, over the age of 10, should not wear their hats backwards." <<Fred Durst>>: The problem is that there's nothing sadder than Fred Durst, so technically HE is sadder than a white boy acting like he's a black kid. <>: Has been for years. <<Seriously, Washington sports teams suck. Hard>>: So do Berkeley sports teams. <>: You're gonna contribute it to my world domination efforts, right? <<You two want to kill me?>>: No way! Then Crzy will try to beat me senseless instead! <>: I would REALLY never sell it. Having it would be worth a fortune by itself. Sort of a "this is mine and no one else has one of these" things. <<If I can just convince Winterwolf to let Dreamie participate>>: Everything was fine with that sentence except for the words "Winterwolf to let". <>: Yes you do. But in this case neither of us wants to say anything. BUT OH MY GOD DO WE WANT TO SAY IT...

Aingeal: I'm not a fan of rainbow patterns, but I liked all the other ones, especially the bottom left. I'm not gonna insult good art just because I happen to be having a quarrel with the artist. I'm not THAT immature (well, I am, sometimes, but not in that specific way).

Okay I'm tired, and I have a midterm tomorrow morning. Wish me luck!

How'd they win? Well, they scored more points than we did.
-Larry Wurzel, on the 76'ers/Lakers playoffs

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 03:01:51 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Aingeal: I liked it.

I wanted to start that with "too bad, you're gonna anyway" but I figured then you wouldn't read my opinion.
Josh
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 12:28:05 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Aingeal -- pretty!!! I like the second down on the right side the best.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Tuesday, October 2, 2001 12:27:40 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

just a quick stop.... wanted to get thoughts on my art... the link is supplied, or go to:

http://www.angelfire.com/va3/aingealvision/celtic.html

anyway... Imzy.. i dont want to hear from you.

anyone else... let me know what you think.... it's a mix of things based from school assignments goen crazy :p
Aingeal
Monday, October 1, 2001 11:59:37 PM
IP: 207.42.162.155

War Update: 3 weeks, and still nothing. We keep hearing that we're moving things "into position", but we're not seeing anything. Now I'm hearing that we may help some Afghanistan rebels fight the Taliban. Make note of that, cause in X number of years, it'll probably be those guys who turn on us and pull this same crap again.

And we learned that the Taliban really does know where Bin Laden is, and has been hiding him, or so they say. This is what I meant when I said that we should have just bombed the hell out of them. Look, now they're taunting us. Half of the Taliban can't even read, and their major source of income is peddling heroin, and they mock us, cause they think we're too cowardly to do anything about it. Blecch.

Now, on to my thoughts on the situation. Cause as we all know, my opinion is more valuable than yours. Ha ha! I'm joking.
Okay, I'm not.

Entity: <<'m just curious, dude, do you really want us to bomb them, or are you just exaggerating? I mean, that's how I felt for the first couple of weeks, but since then I've had my ignorance confronted, and learned about the true state of Afghanistan.>> I don't think anyone really quite understands my total point of view on this.
Needless to say, I'm really the kind of person that makes people like lain wet their pants and people like Gunjack (and maybe you) shake their heads. Cause yes, I emphatically do want to bomb them. I am fiercely, perhaps frighteningly, nationalistic in this situation, and I'm disturbingly brutal in what I think proper retribution is. I want the Taliban dead. Not out of power, DEAD. I want every single terrorist camp, base, or HQ in that godforsaken country bombed into nothingness. If the terrorists run into the mountains, I want to bounce some rocks, baby. Because that's really what it's going to take. It's going to take the damn near total elimination of our enemy to get the job done. (In all fairness, I'd also like to mention that I want this same procedure done to a whole bunch of other nations that harbor terrorists, but I'll settle, for now, with Afghanistan.)
<<But straight bombing...? Thousands of innocents would STILL die, just not us.>> Yes, that's true. It's not as if we aren't still providing the Afghanistan people aid. We're actually doing that RIGHT NOW. But now you're dealing with an "us vs. them" situation, in which on the one hand you have thousands of Americans dead vs. thousands of Afghanistans dead. I'm very, very sorry, but if given that choice, I know which one I'd make every time. This, I think, is what real puts off a lot of people in here, with what I say about this. Yeah, I'm sorry, but yes, to eliminate the terrorists, to eliminate Al-Qaeda, to take out the Taliban and kill/capture Bin Laden�..that'll probably take a lot of Afghanistan lives, innocent lives, but to me that is an acceptable loss. And that really pisses some people off when I say that. But, disregarding any emotional thoughts of revenge, I'm thinking of American lives when I say that. Eliminating Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden won't erase the world-wide terrorist problem, but it will probably save some American lives down the road. Sorry it has to come at the expense of Afghani lives, but really, at this point in time, I'm NOT as concerned with their welfare as I am the welfare of the average American civilian.
<<But now, we're all rawled up and READY to die. And that's what I find scary.>> It is scary, but NECESSARY. Because the terrorists aren't going to stop, unless we stop them. And unfortunately, it's going to take some of our soldiers lives to do that. I don't think you'd have an easy time making a good argument that this cause (ridding the world of terrorism, or at the least, Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden) is not one worth dying for.
<<This does not mean we don't retaliate with BRUTALITY, but with brutal EFFICIENCY.>> The problem is that it's not easy to be efficient in Afghanistan. Brutality can go a long way too. <<Maybe what we should do is "bomb" Afghanistan with food... for we are America.>> The thing is, guess who's the number one supplier of aid to Afghanistan? We are. We have been, and we still are. That's probably not going to change. I just want to see a few bombs dropped on the right places too.

Pacifism: I have to say, I really enjoyed Pat's article (you get points for it being a Washington Post article, Pat). It's true. Pacifism is pro-fascism. Look, pacifism is a wonderful IDEA. But that's all it is. Pacifism never has, and never will, EVER, work in the real world. Because that's not how the world works. You can want peace and love for everyone, that's all fine and good, but it will NEVER happen. Because it's just not in us as human beings. We just aren't capable of it, and frankly, I don't believe we ever will be, if we want to continue to be dominate life forms. Pacifism = submission, while aggression = dominance. We like to try and be a peaceful nation, but now's not the time for it. If you're a pacifist, good for you.
But don't walk around all high and mighty and bitch and moan like a little girl (unless, of course, you are one. A little girl, that is) that we're going over there to kill the poor, misunderstood terrorist. That's ridiculous. No one's going around, not even me, and yelling, "Hey! Great! Another war! Whoo hoo!!!" No one enjoys the violence, really, but it's necessary (and it is. It really is. But that's a whole other debate that I've been hearing a lot lately). I'm just annoyed by all of the people protesting, when they really have NO idea of the importance of this matter. Everyone wants a cause, I guess.

Mooncat: << I hope you'll forgive me if I'm a little sensitive on the subject of predjudices right now. When I hear "lets just kill them all and let god sort them out later" meaning anyone who looks middle-eastern, or Arabic, which to some bright bulbs means anyone not obviously white, I am less than thrilled.>> Well, this might include me, so let me clarify my views on all of this.
When I say "towel-head", I refer to either the Taliban and / or the terrorists. When I say, "Kill them all and let god sort them out", I'm also referring to the Taliban / terrorists. Sorry if I hadn't mentioned that before. I'm implying that all Arabs or Middle Eastern types are bad. I do have some thoughts on the whole Islamic faith and the culture it creates, but that's not important.
I think a lot of the prejudice rising in this country stems from two things: 1) the hijackers lived in our midst for months, even years, as Americans. To many people, they *were* the guys next door. Thus, sometimes it's a bit hard for some people to totally distinguish who's the real immigrant, and who's the sleeper agent. Doesn't excuse the behavior though. And 2) We haven't done anything yet. I think as soon as we do something of consequence, even if it's just drop a bomb or two for show, than as a country, we'll have a little bit of satisfaction, and hopefully the prejudice will decrease.

<<My father was from Taiwan, and is ethnically Chinese -- So I have Dark Hair and Brown eyes, and light golden brown skin.>> For your safety, stay the hell away from me. I have a weakness for Asian women. Even women who look remotely Asian. ;) I'll have to add your restraining order to my collection. ;p <<I've had Native American people ask me if I was of the People>> Speaking as someone who's maternal family ethnic background is almost completely Native American, I just find the term "The People" to be incredibly silly. I'm not trying to be prejudiced there, it just sounds goofy to me. That's the best we can come up with? How about "The Guys Who Were Here Originally, Until You Euro-trash Screwed Us Out of Everything."

Just a quick plea to everyone: PLEASE, not again with the Gargoyle analogies. I love the show, I really, really do, but when dealing with serious issues like we're dealing with today, I can honestly say, with pride, that I NEVER THINK ABOUT WHAT GOLIATH OR THE CLAN WOULD DO OR SAY. Save it for the fanfic archives, folks, I beg of you.

Carolynn: <<Plus, I talk with this lil' Harlem/Brooklyn mix accent cuz that's where my Grandma grew up, and you know how rude it is when people say "oh, you're such a sell-out, you're trying to act black"? I talk this way cuz I do.>> That's okay with me. Unless you're a wigger. Than all bets are off!
I'm sorry, call me evil and uncivilized, but there's NOTHING sadder than a white boy acting like he's a black kid. Reference: Fred Durst, Eminem, Vanilla Ice, Marky Mark, Whitey Ford, the list grows and grows. Please, you're all white suburban kids. You don't know the struggle, okay?

Washington Sports Update: Couple things.
The Washington Redskins. YEAH!!! Worst team in the league, baby! Well, it's a rather hard won victory, which is why it's so depressing. Cause we actually tried, and we still suck. Our next goal: Worst team EVER!! We're closer to obtaining that title than you think!!!!
The Washington Wizards. YEAH!!! We got Michael Jordan! Now watch us win maybe two dozen games next year, tops. Cause not even the greatest player in the history of the sport can stop our outright suckiness. We are so totally not reeking of awesomeness!
Oh, and Cal Ripken Jr. is gonna retire this upcoming Saturday (I believe). I'd say more, but then, I think baseball is utterly devoid of any entertainment value.

Seriously, Washington sports teams suck. Hard. At least we have the Capitals, who occasionally make it to the playoffs and generally don't embarrass us like all of our other local sports teams do.

Green Baron: <<The Southern Baptists are not a threat to the Catholci Church.>> That's what we WANT you to think. I have plans for all of that Vatican gold myself. <<Not nearly as exciting as SJ vs. Crzy.>> Well, Gathering '02 is in SJ's home state. You
wanna sell tickets or should I :)>> I wanna Hell in the Cell match. Promise me some points on the PPV buyrate and I'll do a big Mick Foley-sized bump from the top. THROUGH THE SPANISH ANNOUNCE TABLE!!!

Ravyn: <<SJ> You know what? I'm really startin' to think like you...>> The SJ Virus is spreading! Alert your local CDC facility. <<I'm really startin' to think like you>> First scrub your brain with steel wool. Then seek professional help.

SOROW / Josh: [[You're gonna be the stripper at G2k2, right? ;-) <Josh> If I could go, I probably would if enough people asked me ;) Haha> <Sorow: That wasn't nice ;-) You're gonna give poor ol' SJ a heart attack.> ]] You two want to kill me? Cause you're gonna. All I can say is�..on the off-chance that SOROW shows up to the next Gathering, I will have a professional film crew on hand to videotape any�..dance routine. I promise I won't sell it on the internet�. *coughcoughatleastnotforanythinglessthan29.95coughcough*
If I can just convince Winterwolf to let Dreamie participate��

<<My psychology exam sucked hard!>> I don't take the easy jokes.

"Look at ya. You're pathetic! WHAT? I said you're pathetic!"
---"Stone Cold" Steve Austin

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 1, 2001 11:48:27 PM
IP: 66-44-55-53.s307.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Hey everyone! I finally finished all of my tests for a while so now I get to relax. My psychology exam sucked hard!
SOROW - [allison.abadie@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, October 1, 2001 11:34:20 PM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

please check out my web site. it has the Disney email address to write them and let them know we want gargoyles back. new seasons and new episodes.
http://59201587.home.icq.com/announcement.html
Spring - [intervallia@hotmail.com]
AL, USA
Monday, October 1, 2001 11:08:48 PM
IP: pppa31-resalebirmingham2-3r7296.dialinx.net

please check out my web site. it has the Disney email address to write them and let them know we want gargoyles back. new seasons and new episodes.
http://59201587.home.icq.com/announcement.html
Spring - [intervallia@hotmail.com]
AL, USA
Monday, October 1, 2001 11:08:11 PM
IP: pppa31-resalebirmingham2-3r7296.dialinx.net

Patrick> I can tell you, as a pacifist, that I am not promoting teerorists attacks in any way. What I want see is WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS brought to justice; I don't want see any more innocent lives dstroyed because of our thirst for revenge; I don't want to see an entire country bombed because of a handful of men.
Instead of getting some war-hungry journalist to tell you about the pacifist point of view, why don't you ask a pacifist about the pacifist point of view. I'm sick and tired of poeple calling me anti-american because I am a pacifist, or that I am only helping the terrorists. It's pure BS to try and make me change my opinion by making feel guilty; it won't work!
I think someone said something about Dr. Martin Luther King making an exception for war.... Well, let's look at the situation. An evil force was taking over the world. Hmm. Let's think about this.... Who in thier right mind wouldn't support a war to stop something like this? (That's a rhetorical question, so please don't answer). Hell, I probably would have joined myself. That argument is a useless appeal to authority and any logician will tell you that's a bad argument to make.
As far as Gargoyles is concerned: if the Querry Men ran to a church and the preist asked Goliath to not kill them, do you think Goliath would then proceed to destroy the church, then preists, nuns, candles, statues, and everyhting else in the church, and then get the Querry Men? No. I see him pushing the preist to the side and and just nabbing the Querry Men.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Monday, October 1, 2001 10:46:23 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Just a quick note before wrapping things up for the evening... I'm tired tonight. I was busy all day with paperwork and such.

Update on the man who molested his 7 yr old daughter... the detective made contact and asked the guy to come in and give a statement. He waited and then was called out to a suicide and told the dispatch that if George came in while he was gone to ask him to wait.... dispatch informed the officer that the suicide call that he was on his way to was for George. Seems as if George decided that he didn't want to go to prison.... I had my 2.5 seconds of humanity and felt bad that a life was taken, but then I moved on and was glad that he's gone from the little girl's life and he saved the taxpayers money.
The little girl will heal from the death of her father and with counseling will (hopefully) be able to move on past the abuse she endured from him. It would have been much more difficult to do that with him still around.

I found out what our radio code names are... B1 and B2. Kathy, the administrator is B1 - given to her by officers meaning blonde bitch boss. *L* She thinks it's funny ;) I'm actually B.I.T. (bitch in training) hehehe

Carolyn> I agree with you totally! It shouldn't matter what color a baby's skin is if they are available for adoption or foster care and someone wants to take them into their homes and hearts, then so be it. Period. I think that people who are willing to adopt a child from a different race are also willing to make sure that the child experience their culture as much as possible.
I hate when all of one culture/organization is grouped into one bunch - especially when someone does something wrong and then everyone of that same culture or organization is blamed for that.
Right now people are leary of Arabic looking people because of the fear. I heard one person say, "you just don't know if one of "them" is going to plant a bomb." Yes, it's irrational and not fair to all of the innocent people of the culture, but for now, it's going to happen. *sais*

I heard on the news today that the FBI stopped a truck bomb that was headed to the Sears Building in Chicago. 4 or 5 Arabics were apprehended.
Aid was sent to Afghanistan, but I understand the reasoning behind it. Bush is offering assistance to those who will rebel against the talibans.

New show this season that I'm enjoying: "Crossing Jordan" on NBC. A rebel type medical examiner that likes serving crimes. Of course, I'm glad to see "The District" and "ER" return :)

g'night all!

Jannie
Monday, October 1, 2001 10:30:31 PM
IP: modem19-176.mo-net.com

*** ANGEL SPOILERS ***

Great episode tonight. Everything I've come to love about this show, the action, comedy, drama, sense of impending doom and Angel acting like a badass.

Angel's meeting Skip and subsequent fight with him was one of the most hilarious scenes on the show so far.

Ok, so Angel is clearly the father of Darla's child (as if there was any doubt), I look forward to seeing how this plays out. And apparantly this is not supposed to be, since Darla seems quite surprised about this. If vampires can't have children, then what the Hell is going on.

Lilah makes a good antagonist, though I still wonder why Lindsay was written out of the series. Was it always planned? Did the actor want to walk off the show? What? Anyway, Lilah works well as Wolfram & Hart's representative, as does Liutenant Matheson... ot whatever the character's name is ;)

And who was that guy Angel busted out?

Loved the scene where Angel threw the metal rod through that shaman's head.

Over all, nice development on everyone. Great episode.

"You're a remarkable man."
"And you're an evil bitch"

Lines of the show, right there.

*** END ANGEL SPOILERS ***
Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky
Monday, October 1, 2001 10:08:10 PM
IP: dialin-859-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

I got my progress report on my back. The doctor says I'm doing better. Of course, I know I am doing better.

Jan - thanks for the information.

Carolyn - I actually enjoyed school, for the most part, but college was definitely better.

I made homemade corndogs for supper. They taste so much better than store bought.

Racial thing - I hate filling out forms stating my ethnicity: I'm white. Any company trying to keep from getting sued would want to hire a person from another race. Don't tell me I'm overreacting. One place I filled out an appplication wanted me to fill out a 'Voluntary' form stating my race. Oops, I don't feel comfortable doing that because of some 'affirmative action' plans.

Imzadi - care to specify when you want the flight in the ultraheavy?

Galvatron - I still got an argument about Bob Skir's involvement with TGC. I found a messagesupporting your claim (written by Greg Weisman) on www.gargoyles-fans.org. The guy claimed Bob Skir didn't list working on TGC on his resume because of negative fan reaction. My opinion of Bob Skir is give him credit/blame for what he did. I think the same people would be mad about Beast Machines, no matter who the writer was because Habro pointed the story to go in a certain direction.

Since no person in the CR has argued that Bob Skir worked on TGC, I am going to assume I'm right and the other guy is wrong.

Imzadi - I've heard that if I incorporated myself as a business, I could pay less money in taxes because I could claim all my living expenses as neccessary business expenses.

4-3=1

The answer to my riddle was right and wrong. By the way, why do we associate right with the color 'White' and wrong with the color 'Black'?

I'm glad to know I prevented complaints in the CR about yahoo groups.
DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Monday, October 1, 2001 10:07:55 PM
IP: max1-41.cwy.cei.net

Regarding the link I posted...

The way I read it, Mr. Kelly is not saying that pacifists themselves are also terrorists, but rather that the course of action they wish to see America pursue equates to that which the terrorists wish to see America pursue, and as such it in essence aids the terrorists in their cause.

If you want to put in "Gargoyles" terms, the following logic would be more in tune with what Mr. Kelly is saying:

The Quarrymen, an organized anti-gargoyle group, has attacked gargoyles. This group wishes the gargoyles to not fight back. A gargoyle pacifist would also wish the gargoyles not to fight back. If the gargoyles do not fight, the Quarrymen will attack gargoyles again. A gargoyle pacifist, therefore, are on the side of future attacks on gargoyles. They are objectively pro-Quarrymen.

And then it becomes clear that no gargoyle we know from the show falls into this category. Goliath and his clan are not suicidal... they will fight back against the Quarrymen. They are not looking to wage war against ALL humans. They know who the enemy is - the Quarrymen - and they will engage it.

That same thing is true right now of America. We also know who the enemy is - organized terrorist groups like Osama bin Laden's Al Queda, and the rogue governments that them.

* * * * *

Other comments...

Carolyn Marie - << PATRICK > "Not a skirt, 'tis a kilt!" ;) Gotch'a >> Kilt? Now you've got me confused with Crzy's husband. ;)
Pointless sports announcement - The Cleveland Indians are the American League Central Division champs again. I smell a World Series this time. >:)
Patrick Toman
Monday, October 1, 2001 08:32:43 PM
IP: ac8d228f.ipt.aol.com

** Niamhgold runs in again **

Mooncat: Der, forgot to say I just got your email ;) I'll try and get you some images...probably will just stick to gargs stuff for now :) Thanks for emailing!

Auschwitz: My roomie says that it's awesome (she's been there a couple times). Tell your dad it's a necessary part of history :)

Adios!
Niamhgold
Monday, October 1, 2001 06:42:33 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

LYNATI< Hey :) Heh, I'm not THAT new; I been here the last 2-3 years, but haven't shown up much in the last few months due to work and time constraints. What is exactly your ailment, and where are you that the food's so bad? (my ESP skills say ... college?) Cafeteria food IS pretty bad. Luckily, where I go, we got a vegetarian and salad bar and veggie burgers, so I don't got to live off their tacos (Ugh! Being vegetarian, I haven't tried their meat, but everyone here complains that it's horrible).

Try "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Yoga". It's a wonderful book and gives you the step-by-steps for everything to do with the practice. For $18.95, it's cheaper than a class and you go at your own pace :)

I have to give you credit for going to Aushwitz; friends of mine have visited and according to them it takes a strong stomach. In any case, it teaches a good lesson about history and making sure it's not repeated (not that that's stopped the "ethnic cleansing" by the Turks, in Kosovo, and Central Africa *sigh*).

If there's anything anyone learns about elementary school is ... it sucks. Nobody I know (and I know plenty people) liked school. College is awesome ... wish high school was like this ;)

Okay, quick crash course in Armenian names: you can immediately tell if someone's Armenian if their last name ends in -ian (ie. Ananian, Kjetenjian, Mian, ect.). For the Armenian version, my last name's pronounced Uh-NA-nyan. Americans tend to say it Uh-NAY-nee-un since the Armenian accent can give 'em hell. Either way works ;) Though because of my skin and defined cheekbones, I've been called everything from French to Scottish, including one time I was working a Shoprite cash register and a family came on my line. I says hello, and the father immediately turns to his family and goes, "Irish" (which is funny, cuz I'm not sure how I got this city accent and still manage to sound like an Irisher ;) ). Anyway, that's my funny story of the day.

Tea and massage helps, too, for many ailments. If anything, at least it'll relax you and give your body a chance to heal. Hook your thumbs up and under the bony underside of your skull where it connect to your spine (that's your oxyput, common area of stress ... that's where I usually put all my stress in my body). If it hurts, just keep pressing to relieve it. Good luck :D
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Monday, October 1, 2001 06:26:50 PM
IP: pc169-89.drew.edu

** Niamhgold enters **

Ugh, you know you go to an art school when: Your painting teacher, Tony Shor, decides to respond to the terrorist attack on the US by making another giant fish sculpture for the city. Yes, as if the three giant fish sculptures weren't enough, there are now four. Way to show your patriotism, Tony!

Blagh, don't mind me. I've been trying to render the torso of a skeleton for seven million hours and I can't seem to get it "perfect", grid or no. Not to mention I have 5040 keyframes of animation to hand-render in the next few weeks, an art history exam AND paper, my illustration assignment, and my Narrative thesis to finish. I just love midterms ;)

It was my roomie's bday on Saturday, and it's wonderful how good our apartment smells due to all the flowers she got ;) Three of the bouquets were from exes, one from a current guy in Texas, and another from this guy from Israel she met at the symphony ;) I feel bad for her though, at the moment...she's been having severe side-effects with her, *ahem*, pills, requiring her to just lie in bed all day. I'm really worried, and my efforts to drag a doctor here have resulted in nill. I'm probably going to drive her to the hospital if it keeps up for another day (it's been three at this point; average time a doctor says to wait is four days, so we'll see :()

Daddy: You've made the top of my posting list again; though with that workload, I don't think it matters much at this point. Just envision the dates October 15th, when it'll all be over with ;) At least, that's when my mid-projects will be done ;) <Not the kind of work that actually pays, the kind of work that REALLY BORING PROBLEM SETS> One day, though, it'll pay. It's kinda interesting to have the stock market at its recession point now...at least there's no more "waiting", and it might actually be on the up-trend by the time we graduate. It'll pay, all right ;) <Mike had a toga but I avoided it because I really don't fill out a toga very nicely> Do you know the correct way to wrap a toga? <We're talking off-road SUV stuff> Most SUVs suck off-road, anyways. But, yeah, a BMW? That's ridiculous ;) Not unfashionable, mind you, but ridiculous ;) <One girl was wearing this blue corset with only black underwear...that was a good combination> Ah, the aesthetics of mixing alcohol with a libido ;) <Or there was an orgy being held in your room> How did you know? <Its all about hairspray powered, 6 foot ABS potato cannons> AGHAGH!!! But I think I shall use lighter fluid for this round ;) <Dropping it out a window, on the other hand...> Would probably lead to you dropping it on your foot. Thing's a bit heavy, and if you say you can't fill out a toga... ;) <You're not that tall.> There's space around the head and a frame. You'll see when the digital pic comes out. Depends how dirty you were thinking...wait, this is Josh I'm talking to ;) <Really, its been my experience that most computer geeks are really nice, hoping that someone else will like them.> Now are we talking male computer geeks or female computer geeks? <Watch it, you're gonna start sounding like me> :) Isn't that a good thing? It means I have the potential to rival you for world domination ;) <Actually, I am ALWAYS thinking about sex. Sorta> How can you sorta think about sex? Because, as my roommate says, I rock ;) <Actually I have several friends in that category.> Uh...interesting. Unfortunately, I know no one with a little sister. <The bigger the hard drive, the more cash you must have in your wallet..> I think we're thinking of different hard drives... ;) <If I could ignore women...> Men are not meant to ignore women. <Women behave differently every day> Did I tell you how men's brain wavelength readings are equal to the wavelength readings picked up when Jell-0 is jiggled? <One of these days I'm gonna map all my friends> Well, good luck with that, given the interesting facets of female biology. <Well, my classMATES are openly perverse, that'll have to do> Heh ;) <You're just not looking hard enough. Check ticketmaster.com for your area> Did, and still not much interesting. Though System of a Down is playing in mid-October. <Did you enjoy that? ;-) > Only from this one guy... ;) <Thank you!> Bitte Schon. <I'm impressed> The apocalypse is now! <Um...how can you write a paper for a physics class?> It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out ;) <It was purely for eye-candy purposes> Isn't that some sort of cruel punishment?

Gside: <Why? I just used a ruler and my hand> Wow, you can see your hand?!? ;) <Mmm...> Oh, for the love of... <Group B, here> Does that deserve a point? <Heh, heh, heh. I rather like the "prefill form" in Netscape 6> Next time...the CR shall be mine ;)

Winterwolf: I know we were chatting earlier, but the inert-net kicked in and I lost ya ;) Please forgive me!

Stephen: Did you get my email(s)?

This may be the last full, coherent post I have for a while, so adios throughout my midterms! I'll check in, from time to time ;)
Niamhgold
Monday, October 1, 2001 06:22:06 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

*limps back in*
A-HA! someone finally went and checked out my last yahoo update. *almost-smile* (yes I am keeping track...sad, isn't it?)

Carolynn Marie: Heh, the one time I get a new person speaking to me, and I mispelled my name in my header...:P. (There was suppised to be an "I" on the end. stupid non proof-reading me.) Thanks, I have been considering yoga as an option, but really right now I'm thinking it's a dietary deficiency, the food is here is mostly carp. (<- deliberate typo, it looks funny and we had fish today.) Besides, I do better with live instruction, and I can't afford it. I'm saving my pennies for my Capoeira class, and for going to go see Auschwitz this summer (she whined again) because my parents won't send me. (...Okay, so, this joke is A LOT funnier inside my own head, I guess.)
race issues...I dunno, I'm a European mutt, and I wound up going to a elem. school that was predominately black; actually, I was one of the ones shipped over to fill up their race quoto. I remember there being three main cliques among the female students, and the third was all- and only- the pale skinned ones. (excluding me, of course, because I wasn't part of the social structure...I was utterly ignored by them all 96% of the time.) ANYway. what was my point? Darn, I forgot it. *sigh* Of all the things I've lost...
Hey, how DO you pronounce your last name, anyway?

*sits down and massages her ankles*
"Lynati" "EMAIL ME!!" "Kshudra" -> - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 1, 2001 04:58:21 PM
IP: kcx-ks18a-116.rasserver.net

MOONCAT< Prejudice sucks. And it works both ways, too. My father is Armenian and my mother is American with Irish/German roots, but I took after her. While my little sisters look like they just flew in from Chomaklou, Armenia (in the Middle East), I'm little Ms. Irish-American. I'm not sure what I am. I know that shouldn't bug me, but it does. People ask me, "Oh, you must be English, you have such pale skin!" and I say, "Actually, I'm Armenian". They go, "Oh, really? Where's that?" And I'll answer, "It used to be wedged in-between Turkey and a few other Middle Eastern countries, to the right of Greece". And then they'll just stare at me.

I recently went off at a kid because he made the intelligent comment of "Let's nuke the Middle Eastern people back to their countries, ect ect". He was surprised that I claimed ancestry from there because "you're so white!" Yeah, dumbass, real observant.

So I'm white but I'm not white, I'm American but with Armenian family. My full name is "Carolynn Marie Ananian" but I usually skip the last name cuz people can't pronounce it.

Basically, I understand how incredibly GRATING that can be, Mooncat. Plus, I talk with this lil' Harlem/Brooklyn mix accent cuz that's where my Grandma grew up, and you know how rude it is when people say "oh, you're such a sell-out, you're trying to act black"? I talk this way cuz I do. Get over it. It sucks, and I wish ya luck ;) Now I'm just starting to think, "Screw it all, we're all one species anyway". Still, the idiocy of some folks is amazing...

JAN< Dude, I seriously don't care what color my kids are. I so want to adopt or foster kids who need some love and guidance, y'know? Like I said in the above, prejudice and discrimination are so stupid. I don't even think people like Chris Rock are funny when they make fun of white people; I mean, God help 'em if a white comedian made fun of African-Americans, but the other way around IS funny? That's just messed up.

JOSH< Oh, God, good luck with your work!! And I thought I had it bad (three papers due this week).

<<They have reason to believe the house was part of the Underground Railroad.>>: Or, conversely, that people who lived in fear of slave uprisings used it to get out quickly. >> LOL!

The house IS unlivable, almost. They have tarp hanging over so many openings and they're trying to at least get some walls up before Ol' Man Winter comes tearing through.

physics paper>>: Um...how can you write a paper for a physics class? >> Yeah, I'm trying to figure that out myself. Our prof expects us to take something like paper clips and fill up four to six pages about how things like forces are used to hold the paper in place, yada yada yada. We're supposed to take something from everyday life to use for it ... hmm, maybe I could try to explain the physics of a keg ...

PATRICK< "Not a skirt, 'tis a kilt!" ;) Gotch'a

JAN AGAIN< <>

Oh, it is SO true. My grandmother's brother-in-law just went to jail for molesting his 7-year-old granddaughter. His wife actually walked in and caught him, but luckily she called the cops and is sending the girl to therapy (I've known some people who look the other way, the jerks). The guy is 80 something years old, and you know he's never coming out alive. If he doesn't die of old age, the jail regulars will get to him. To convicts, they've got this whole hierarchy thing going based on what you've done, but NO ONE has ANY respect for a person who molests little kids, even convicts. Usually because convicts come from abused or broken homes, too, so they have very little patience. Hence the inside joke, "Picking up all the soap" in the prison showers ;) Think about it.

LYNAT< God, good luck to you, too! Everyone in here seems to be going through some tough crap right now ... if my $.02 helps, try some yoga. I thought it was utter crap when my mom recommened it to me (18 years old and I get TERRIBLE neck and back aches), but I'd tried everything else so I thought, "Sure, why not". So I bought a book and a yoga mat and started doing breathing and yoga excercises, and I am now able to at least stand up straight. Don't know if you're doctor would let you do yoga, but something to consider, anyways. Whatever you do, good luck.
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Monday, October 1, 2001 02:59:32 PM
IP: pc169-3.drew.edu

*slumps in*

##Warning: more complaining:
I've reverted to the two-braid thing again; I noticed unusual amounts of my hair falling out again. And my gums are swollen. *sigh* I wish I was glazing my work, and could thus blame this on lead fumes or something. But no. I am once again afflicted by this and irrational leg pains once more. and I can't find my ankle braces; it's a good thing I have ace bandages.
current music: Tracy Chapman, "This Time"
current mood: take a guess. ##

Josh: a) I'd like to think so. but, your pro'ly gonna make a crack about liking Tracy Chapman now. Why did her worst song get the most airplay, anyway? and b)haven't been in touch with him for a while now.

Aaron: read through the draft. looks good. good luck.

*Gone*
Lynat Kshudra Kshudra Kshudra...
Monday, October 1, 2001 01:34:01 PM
IP: 207.94.232.226

Patrick -- Well, it was an interesting link. But (IMHO)the article is double speak. I am not a pacifist, and would be the first to drop kick anyone who attacks me first, but I do not equate all pacifism with terrorism. I may not agree with pacifist, but if they are being true to their beliefs I would not begin to tar them as terrorists just because they aren't doing what I want them to do.

By the light of the article writer's argument, if taken with Gargoyle examples would work this way --

Humans attacked Gargoyles first, so Gargoyles are justified in warring on Humans, Any Gargoyle that tries to live without warring on Humans is a by their inaction supporting the Humans war on Gargoyles.

So Goliath and crew by NOT killing humans including the Quarrymen, are effectively supporting the Quarrymen, and thus are the equivalent to being Quarrymen.

So by saying flatly, that all pacifists are the equivalent of evil and terrorists, is like saying Goliath is a Quarryman, or that Ghandi and Mother Teresa are Taliban Terrorists.

I am not a pacifist. Let's go kick terrorist butt, I'm all for that. But turning smear campaigns on pacifists/pacifism as a whole just because some Americans aren't ready to join in on the butt kicking, I think that would be starting another ugly prejudice.

*******

Speaking of prejudice, I was born in America, and my mom's family (mostly from European origin) have been here for generations. My father was from Taiwan, and is ethnically Chinese -- So I have Dark Hair and Brown eyes, and light golden brown skin.

I have seen the violent face of prejudice first hand. As a small grade school child, here in America's heartland, have had rocks flung at me by little white supremist children as I walked home from school. Thankfully that was not a common occurance, and the worst I've yet to personally to face.

But I've had utter strangers come up to me at bus stops and in the mall to ask "What are you? Indian? Mexican? Iranian?" etc. In most cases this is completely benign, innocent curiousity. I've had Native American people ask me if I was of the People, and found it totally non-threatening.

But today I don't find the interest of my fellow Americans in my racial appearance so non-threatening. I have fully (ethnically) Taiwanese/Chinese friends in local colleges who were born and raised Americans who are also facing the rising face of white supremist groups on campus. And yes, if you look middle eastern or simply not 'American' enough, you do get called "Raghead" and you get to hear the lovely rants that go "Lets kill all the foriegn students" when you are on campus.

So, I hope you'll forgive me if I'm a little sensitive on the subject of predjudices right now. When I hear "lets just kill them all and let god sort them out later" meaning anyone who looks middle-eastern, or Arabic, which to some bright bulbs means anyone not obviously white, I am less than thrilled.

Okay, now I'm all depressed. I'd better go get some food and think of happier topics.

later
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, October 1, 2001 01:30:28 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Patrick> thank you!! Rush had a commentary on exactly this subject last week and I have been wishing that I had it in text form! :) It definitely speaks the real truth of the matter, huh?

Revel> *L* My mom says the same thing, "it might be worth something!" or "they don't make that anymore" well mom.. there's a _reason_ why it's no longer manufactured... it's UGLY! *L*

I asked at the sheriff's office if it was true about what happens to child molesters/killers and they all said YES! (all said that with a smile on their faces, too) hehe

Carolyn> white parents/black children (or vice versa): it makes me angry when people (from both races) complain about the mix. The ultimate & most important end result is that the children have a good home and environment. I really commend these people for doing what is best and not listening to a bunch of idiots telling them that it's wrong.

argh... time to go to work. I don't mind working, I just mind the early morning hours again. I'm NOT a morning person.
Jan
Monday, October 1, 2001 08:05:59 AM
IP: modem19-176.mo-net.com

Caroyln Marie > Re: Puck's clothes - That's not a dress, it's a tunic. ;)

:: posts a little link ::

Here's an editorial that pretty much sums up my feelings right now. I hope we bomb something soon... especially since we now know unequivicably that the Taliban has been lying to us. Their envoy announced yesterday that they know exactly where bin Laden is have had him under protection for the past two weeks. So that means they were either lying to us last week when they said they didn't know where to find him, or they are lying to us now... which hardly seems likely seeing as this latest claim does nothing to bolster their "why won't you leave us alone" position.
Patrick Toman
Monday, October 1, 2001 07:09:42 AM
IP: ac959819.ipt.aol.com

Josh< A.)I haven't.B.) I'd remember if I did.
Courtney
Monday, October 1, 2001 06:31:48 AM
IP: 66.73.6.137

Robby: He eats them, I hope
Josh
Monday, October 1, 2001 03:43:59 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Okay folks, wierd, middle of the night type thought...

The annoying little hairball from Thundercats known as Snarf, meets the Smurfs. What happens next?
Robby
Monday, October 1, 2001 03:15:41 AM
IP: ac950899.ipt.aol.com

Carolynn: Sorry about that awful typo. That should have said: "Oh I get it..."
Josh
Monday, October 1, 2001 02:33:11 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Howdy.

After waking up at approximately noon (why I couldn't sleep later is beyond me...after all I was up last night and I didn't have much soda...I should have been out like a light until at least 3PM), I did LOTS OF WORK.

First, I did my stat homework. Then studying for my stat quiz tomorrow. Then fluids homework, which I gave up on after five minutes. We'll get some instruction on how to attack those problems tomorrow. Then I did materials homework, which involved copying the answers from a solution set the professor gave out early to lighten the burden in this time of midterms (nice of him, wasn't it?). After that was a review for math, which wasn't very helpful, quite frankly. Then some studying for math (I have a quiz tomorrow in addition to my midterm on tuesday). Then I studied for dynamics and did my dynamics homework, then studied for materials.

So this week I have three midterms, a lab, two quizzes, and four problem sets.

Next week I have two midterms, a quiz, and six problem sets.

God my life sucks.

That was my day. Exciting, huh?

Replies.

Courtney: It is a stupid question, because a) you've asked it before and b) no one answered it when you did. Obviously, no one has a clue, otherwise it'd be posted somewhere.

Carolynn Marie: <<Think of the abandoned house in "Fight Club" and the creepy townhouses in "The Sixth Sense", then combine them.>>: Whoa. That sounds very unlivable. <<They have reason to believe the house was part of the Underground Railroad.>>: Or, conversely, that people who lived in fear of slave uprisings used it to get out quickly. <<Tim the Toolman Taylor would be proud>>: No kidding! I'm impressed. <<any two idiots can have sex>>: And many do. <<it takes a lot more to raise them>>: One of the many reasons I'm never having children. <<he broke up with his girl's MOM ... though I know one loser who broke up with his girlfriend's answering machine<</l Ig biw U get ut,,,he didn't have the guts to tell her himself. What a wuss. <<Supposedly she carries her husband's blood in a vial around her neck ... uh, loopy, people?>>: SICK! <<Robin Goodfellow, Elves in Tights>>: We're Elves, we're elves in tights... <<Better than snarfing chocolate by the pound>>: No, nothing is better than chocolate by the pound. <<a movie depicting decapitation, mass slaughter, and man-eating tigers won an Oscar.>>: Hypocrites. <<I'm finally starting to "get it".>>: To be honest, I don't think I'll ever come to that conclusion. I am no longer capable of getting along with my parents. It all started when I began to think... <<physics paper>>: Um...how can you write a paper for a physics class?

Jan: <<Did you at least try and hook up with one of the girls>>: Nope. No efforts made. It was purely for eye-candy purposes. If anything had happened, I'd have been stranded in Santa Cruz. <<I'll bet you would have looked cute in a toga!>>: You don't want to make that bet... <>: "Which ones of these is not like the other ones..." ;-) <>: I hear the worst thing to be in prison is a child molester. Apparently they really mess you up for that. As they should! <>: I imagine that's how I'll feel in couple weeks. <<it would not be used as a crutch nor an excuse>>: The problem is that many people don't understand the difference between "reason" and "excuse". <<We're having a family dinner today>>: Sounds scary.

Revel: <<Proving once again force can defeat reason>>: "If brute force doesn't work, you aren't using enough." <>: LOL. Post a copy of it! <<a secret online society bent on world domination!>>: An excellent title for your paper. <<offroad in a BMW? What happen to Boomer?>>: Boomer is safely in LA. The car we have up here is Mike's spankin' new BMW 325i (rich bastard). Off-roading in that is...interesting. <>: I wasn't looking for anyone I "really liked". I was looking for -CENSORED-. <<It might be worth something someday>>: NEVER. <<If you can read this your f@#ked.>>: Sounds like the one on the back of the enterprise: "If you can read this...you're too f*cking close!" <<On any other day that might seem unusual>>: Truly a wonderful movie.

Entity: <<spend five minutes to patch up all the errors in Windows>>: You know five minutes wouldn't do it. Besides, if they patched up all the holes, how would THEY get in.

DPH: <<Why then>>: Out of state personal check. Even with my stunning credit history, they take a while. Now, if you were a business... <<Name the reference>>: Um, that would be the Declaration of Independence.

Okay now that I've finished all I can reasonably do in a single night, I'm going to sleep. In addition to my day of work today, I've got straight classes 10-4 tomorrow, with a review from 6-8. Can you say "SUCK"?

"Know what separates the winners from the losers?" "Yeah, the score."
-Gene Hackman and Keanu Reeves, The Replacements

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, October 1, 2001 02:31:19 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

DPH- Eric Lewald of ExoSquad and X-Men fame was the story editor of TGC. Skir had nothing to do TGC however one could make an argument that he is a bad writer since his MechWarrior and Beast Machines wasn't exactly popular among the fans, but then his episode of Batman imo was one of the best written ones.
Galvatron
Monday, October 1, 2001 12:50:15 AM
IP: 01-035.037.popsite.net

3-6=4
1+1=-3
9*9==1

Jan - Is it true what I have heard happens to convicted child molesters in prison?

There was an argument (somewhere else) that Bob Skir has ruined everything he touched. That person claimed Bob Skir was the story editor for TGC and I didn't find that listed on his resume on his website.

Imzadi - I'll check on Thursday for the check cleared. Why then? My appointments for the chiropractor are for Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday of this week.

My latest riddle - no correct answers so far. Technically, balck-and-white pictures could answer the riddle, but that's not the answer I'm after. I wonder if Green Baron could figure out my latest riddle.

Among these rights, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness<-Name the reference and get a free ride in my ultraheavy.

**IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT**
It's about 3 hours until yahoo groups will be going down. It won't be back up for 2 hours after that.
**END IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT**

DPH - [dph_of_rules@yahoo.com]
AR, USA
Sunday, September 30, 2001 09:52:57 PM
IP: max1-68.cwy.cei.net

Sorow: That wasn't nice ;-) You're gonna give poor ol' SJ a heart attack.
Josh
Sunday, September 30, 2001 09:04:15 PM
IP: adsl-64-161-26-49.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Josh> If I could go, I probably would if enough people asked me ;) Haha
SOROW
Sunday, September 30, 2001 08:58:51 PM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

Twenty-Second -- so I came in a "little" late =)
silvadel
Sunday, September 30, 2001 06:43:27 PM
IP: cache-2.nyw.ny.webcache.rcn.net

Crzy> I'm sorry to hear about your grandmother.

SJ> <<<My bloodthirst is pretty strong right now, and I'm not really going to be too happy until I see some bombs dropped over that wasteland of a country.>>> I'm just curious, dude, do you really want us to bomb them, or are you just exaggerating? I mean, that's how I felt for the first couple of weeks, but since then I've had my ignorance confronted, and learned about the true state of Afghanistan. I am so not for Americans dying. In the past, I understand that we've bombed rather than risked our soldiers' lives, but in those cases, it would have been a matter of hundreds, perhaps? And it was more of a politically-correct move, an alternative to inciting half-assed 'Nam-style reaction. But now, we're all rawled up and READY to die. And that's what I find scary. Regardless of whether or not I or anyone I know would have to go, I don't want ANY Americans to die. And this would involve the deaths of potential thousands of us. That would be unacceptable IMO. 6,000 have already died. To solve the problem by letting bin Laden take credit for MORE of our deaths is not the answer. But straight bombing...? Thousands of innocents would STILL die, just not us. We need to be two things here, I think: surgical and creative. This does not mean we don't retaliate with BRUTALITY, but with brutal EFFICIENCY. Maybe what we should do is "bomb" Afghanistan with food... for we are America.

<<<First Contact was the best Trek movie EVER MADE!!!
I'm sorry, I'm just reminiscing. Everyone remember how fun that argument was? ;)>>>

LOL. That was a memorable battle, indeed.

Patrick> <<<Bill Gates donates $10 million and people are calling him "cheap" 'cause he's worth like $300 billion.>>> This is, of course, a trashy reaction if ever I heard one. I don't think kindly of Gates, but if he'd not donated anything at all, no one would have thought to complain. If he really wants to help America, though, maybe he should finally tell his people to initiate "Plan Dark Omega" -- spend five minutes to patch up all the errors in Windows.

I also believe every gas station that rose its prices after the attack should have to hand over the extra profit they made and send it to New York for relief, but I guess that's too 'liberal' of an idea.
Entity
Sunday, September 30, 2001 04:54:29 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

I was going to post yester day but after spending three hours trying to get a power steering hose out only to find I had the wrong sized wrench, I was not in the chat mood. Eventually I just use a set of vise grips and tore the bolt from the hose. Proving once again force can defeat reason. I sent an aditional two hours puting the new hose back in because in order to get the bad one out I had to unbolt the pump and harness along with move some hose that I have no bloody idea what they do, beside get in the way. Afterwards I drove to the art building to work on my painting, got all set up only to be kicked out because I forgot the building closes at five on Saturdays. @#$*!
Now comes the fun part.
I have to write a speech about a certain culture or group that I'm apart of (smiles at everyone in the CR) Won't that bee interesting that people will talk about their church clubs and bowling leagues and what am I apart of... a secret online society bent on world domination!! (or at least that's what the sign outside said)
Should get so good reactions.

Josh- offroad in a BMW? What happen to Boomer? I don't know about you but I never met a girl that I really enjoy spending time with at a drunken orgy. (my opinion of course)

Jan- Don't feel so bad, my mother tries to have garage sales and we never even get started becasue she'll go around saying, "Oh but we might need that or I just cant part with it" and my personal favorite, "It might be worth something someday."

SJ- have you seen the picture of the B2 that says, "If you can read this your f@#ked." I enjoyed that.

"On any other day that might seem unusual"
-Camron Poe (Cage, Con Air-

Later
Revel - [Samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Sunday, September 30, 2001 01:42:59 PM
IP: dynamic-129-120-236-181.dynamic.unt.edu

JAN< <<I was truly sickened. It was great pleasure that I entered this warrant. The police were leaving to go pick him up as I left work for the day. I did overtime to make sure the warrant was entered. Even though I realize that he is innocent until proven guilty - if he did this, I hope that they put him in the same cell with the biggest, ugliest, and meanest inmate that can be located. >>

That's awesome that you're doing that. I know some people who hate their jobs and would just go home thinking, "Well, someone else will do it", but you didn't. It's great to hear someone really cares about helping others.

And just be glad that this dumbass rapist might start "picking up all the soap" in prison, if you get my meaning ;)

Thanks for the compliment. The sad thing is, Carol and Buck are white and all three kids are black, so the town gave them crap at first. Rebuild your house? Sure, no problem ... oh, wait, the kids are black? Well, first you have to fill out all these papers, and then you have to tell us what the previous owners used the rooms for. My answer: uh, sleeping in? Who gives a flying crap what the rooms used to be used for?!? You have to understand that town is preodminately white, and people can be so stupid. They held up work for two months, but finally Carol and Buck got their permit and are now thumbing their nose at the town as the house is going up :) I love people.

I'll keep you guys informed. They're expecting several new orphans within the next few weeks; many kids lost both parents in the September 11th tragedy *sigh*

<<It's time to get dressed and head over to my mom's. We're having a family dinner today. >>

That's awesome. Hope you have fun. With the crap on 9/11 and the joy of building a house for kids, lately I've really thought about family and helping people. It's important to spend time with your loved ones. It took me 18 years, but I'm finally starting to "get it".

Enjoy dinner ;)

BBL, guys (off to work on three separate papers due this week in Physics, Religion, and Anthro ... whee!)
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Sunday, September 30, 2001 01:02:00 PM
IP: pc169-73.drew.edu

Carolyn> wow! that is simply awesome!! Thank you for sharing this with us :) I love hearing about others who give their time and money to help those less fortunate or who are in need. Great inspiration! I'll remember these people in my prayers *nods*

Josh> sounds like a fun party :D Did you at least try and hook up with one of the girls? *giggles* awww, I'll bet you would have looked cute in a toga! ;)

Greg> Well, a few years ago my kids were talking about a chat room and the people who were in there.... we had just gotten the internet so I was learning how chat rooms worked. That was Mini Clan - who's theme is the Gargoyle's 'toons. (my kids loved the show) I made friends there and attended the Gathering in Dallas. At that time I had never seen an episode of The Gargoyles. My curiosity was peaked, but didn't pursue finding any videos, etc. Then I met Denis. He and Fred were working on their fanfics. I sat in on some of the brainstorming nights and became more and more interested in Gargoyles. Denis then introduced me to Gargoyles and explained the different characters to me. He basically _taught_ me about Gargoyles. :) I love the show and the characters, but I'm not very fluent or in depth knowledgable about them. I continue to learn about them by reading everyone's posts and asking Denis never-ending questions. ;) I only know the "basics" though. I can't quote any episodes (have only seen them once) or anything like that. So, I know most of the basic information that ya'll talk about, I just don't know any of the detailed or in depth info.
I continue to be here because I have friends here that I enjoy visiting with :)

The good and funny must come the bad and the ugly with my job. I entered a warrant for a child molester on Friday. The accussed is the father of a 7 yr old that is charged with molesting her during his visitation weekends over the summer. The report stated that the girl was having problems with urinating and complained of pain in her private area but would not tell her mom what the problem was for several weeks. Finally, the pain became so bad and the little girl wouldn't go to the bathroom. Mom took her to the doctor (thinking it to be a bladder or urinary tract infection)
On the way to the doctor's office, the girl told mom that "dad tickled me there" (pointing to her private area). Mom did the right thing and didn't panic but began asking her daughter questions. The daughter told mom that dad made her sleep in his bed on the weekends and that he tickled her alot "down there" (once again pointing to her private area)and that he made her touch his private areas. He told his daughter to not tell anyone, especially her mom because it would make her mom mad at her and she wouldn't believe her anyway. After the doctor's visit, mom described her daughter's vaginal area as looking like a rotten tomato that had burst.
I was truly sickened. It was great pleasure that I entered this warrant. The police were leaving to go pick him up as I left work for the day. I did overtime to make sure the warrant was entered. Even though I realize that he is innocent until proven guilty - if he did this, I hope that they put him in the same cell with the biggest, ugliest, and meanest inmate that can be located.

My mom had a garage sale yesterday and I was there from 6:30am until 3pm. Geesh, I feel like I've been ran over by a Mac truck today. Wasn't a big money maker yesterday, but I got rid of a LOT of stuff for her ;) Dad and I made "deals" when she wasn't looking. hehehe We'll have another sale next spring and I'll be adding all of my stuff then. I haven't had a chance to sort thru my stuff to put anything in yesterday's sale.

Christine> behavior/excuse/reason: Exactly!! That's what I've always said! When I would have conferences with my kids' teachers, I would explain that they have ADD - however, it would not be used as a crutch nor an excuse... but it was the _reason_ for certain behaviors. It just meant we'd be seeing the behaviors repeating themselves many times before they were stopped... didn't mean that I wasn't trying to correct them. We are all responsible for our actions and behaviors. There's always an alternative behavior that we can choose to do.

It's time to get dressed and head over to my mom's. We're having a family dinner today.
Jan
Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:11:54 PM
IP: modem19-176.mo-net.com

Hey, guys. I didn't get online last night cuz everything was so busy, but here's what would have been yesterday's post:

Whoa! Am I beat ... basically, I didn't get to bed until 2:30 this morning, woke up at 7:30 and carpooled twenty minutes away for Habitat for Humanity. This totally cool middle-aged couple bought this 18th century colonial house and are totally revamping it to make it into a house for orphans and unwed mothers. A LOT of work, people. No electricity, no insulation, and ceiling beams from 1790. The house has been gutted and now resembles a skeleton; unpacked suitcases still languish on all three stories and creepy staircases and doors lead to nowhere except unused attics and old servants' quarters.

Think of the abandoned house in "Fight Club" and the creepy townhouses in "The Sixth Sense", then combine them.

But you couldn't help but love the place. Carol and Buck, the people doing this, have already adopted three little kids from abusive homes and are revamping the house in preparation for more. They're expecting several more children, newly orphaned after losing BOTH parents in the New York bombings :( We're talking money and time that boggles the mind. They're adding onto the carriage house, installing electricty, plumbing, new roofing, siding, knocking down walls and putting new ones up... DAMN. 18th century meets the 21st. They even showed us one of the sub-basements, which has underground tunnels leading into the woods. They have reason to believe the house was part of the Underground Railroad.

Between Carol, Buck, and seven college kids, we managed to cut, fit, and build ceiling girders and the second story's floor in just under five hours (Tim the Toolman Taylor would be proud). That also includes ducking back inside every two minutes to check on the three little kids, who are the most ADORABLE things on toddling legs. Two of 'em were crack babies; Anna's mother is currently 17 and expecting her third child, so Buck and Carol are taking the girl in, too, to give her a new start; nothing's going to change unless you get to the young parents. 17 and three kids! God! What is wrong with these kids? Stupid, stupid, stupid ... I'm 18, so it's weird to think about a mother who's younger than you are, but still... Anyway, all three toddlers are the cutest thing, but they don't want to be left alone for long. R is only 4 but he's going blind; his father was an alcoholic and one time threw him down a flight of stairs, so they think that may be part of the cause. Poor baby went bats when "Mommy" went outside for a few minutes, so I picked him up and made googy faces, and that just cheered him up. Cutest laugh! God, I will NEVER understand why people can treat their babies like crap ... any two idiots can have sex, but it takes a lot more to raise them.

Anyway, so we did some "barn raising" :) It was a wonderful experience and we're goin back again in two weeks. Carol and Buck nearly adopted US. They're even getting two or three therepeutic ponies donated to them from a very generous person, so the kids will be able to ride. In spite of all the f*(^&$#@ up things in the world, it's so awesome to see two middle-aged people with jobs to worry about actually putting so much money and sweat into something for children. Kicks ass.

SPACEBABIE< <<Does the fact that I like to read, watch Anime, like scifi and fantasy, and can't wait to see movies like Monsters INC, Harry Potter and LOTR make me an immature geek or is my brother a shallow jerk who needs to MYOB. >>

No, it just means you have taste. And very good taste, might I add (I mean, look at your bro ... he broke up with his girl's MOM ... though I know one loser who broke up with his girlfriend's answering machine).

SJ< It's starting to drive me a little nuts, too. And Angelina ... pffff! She's nuts! Supposedly she carries her husband's blood in a vial around her neck ... uh, loopy, people? And while it's nice that she's donating money to people in need ... Afghanistan??? C'mon, don't get me wrong. I feel bad for the subterfuged folks there and all that, but are we forgetting the US Embassy in Afghanistan was ATTACKED this week by Afghani people? Or that the Taliban will probably take Ms. Jolie's million bucks and go drinking on the town with it and laugh their asses off at Hollywood's generosity?

I don't like war, either, but if we had only bombed Hitler's ass before Chamberlain tried his whole "let's make peace" deal, WWII mightn't have gotten so huge. Whatever our gov't's doing, they better do it soon. You can't just let a bully step all over you and let 'em, or all us women will be wearing burkas before the weeks' out. *shudder*

<<Well, I was hoping to spend Thanksgiving in Istanbul, but I don't have enough of a pass. Still, it would be amusing to spend Thanksgiving in Turkey :) I will spend it with my cousins and my godson, though it isn't a menaingful holiday to me, since I hate Puritans and I also don't care for anything secualr. I haven't doen anything for Christams beyond a midnight mass in years. >>

Hey, I'm New Age and I still celebrate Christmas and Easter just cuz of the whole family thing :) Make your own holiday; it's all about chillin' with family and that. I love my immediate family, but my relatives are urking. Hmm, the "Aunt Agnes" role, if you will :D

PATRICK< *LOL*!! OMG, I wasn't even thinking about your dress-up, actually. In fact, I've never made it to a Gathering. I've always made remarks about Puck's dress cuz ... well, he's wearing a skirt :) It just always struck me how funny that was.

Although I distinctly remember one time during TGS brainstorming when someone mentioned Gargoyles spoofs, and I mentioned, "Robin Goodfellow, Elves in Tights!!" But that's another story altogether...

Though I totally agree with the "chicks going for guys in tights" thing. This guy on campus has a goatee and long hair and he's practically mobbed by girls. There's also the Harry Potter look-alike who we're all trying to get to, but we think he has a girlfriend *d'oh*

FLEUR< <<Whoo! Wonder what they'd do to Brooklyn?>> Hmm, mistake him for a turkey, pluck him, and roast him? Though I don't think turkeys have beaks that big... either that or jail him, because his name is that of a city borough in "that accursed country". Arr, arr.

JOSH< Ugh, I HATE it when other women are totally bitchy and write it off as PMS. It's funny as a joke or when you're feeling really whipped, but I hate it when they take it out on other people and just excuse it. If you're that cranky, go take a nap. I get cranky, I do kickboxing. Better than snarfing chocolate by the pound.

<<Pass me the trick-or-treat bag>>: So you can puke in it? >> No, so I can snarf some chocolate :)

<<<<Everyone I know loved Gladiator>>: It was a total man-movie. >> So was "Fight Club".

I thought it interesting that people FLIPPED when Fight Club premiered because it was too graphic due to punching fists ... but a movie depicting decapitation, mass slaughter, and man-eating tigers won an Oscar. Go fig.

Ciao, folks. Off to gym. And maybe some sleep tonight...

Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:02:49 AM
IP: pc169-73.drew.edu

I just finshed The 10th Kingdom. Really really good book. Not the greatest but still very good. easy reading too. I've started The Mists of Avalon now.It's petty good so far. How anyone here read any of these books before?
Josh<>We have a general policy that we don't allow stupid questions in here. The new stories will be up when they're posted. No sooner.> It's not a stupid question. And How come your being so mean to me I haven't done anything to you.I'm really cute and loveable if you give me a chance.

Courtney
Sunday, September 30, 2001 10:25:17 AM
IP: 66.73.6.137

Hmmm, I seem to have missed the top ten for the first time in weeks.

Oh well, I have a good excuse. I was at a big party with good music and lots of hot drunk chicks.

Hey folks.

Woke up bright and early at 1PM (ah, the joys of 12 hours of sleep - thank you, Mr. Boss, for letting me skip work the next two weeks), and had to start working on my lab report. My roommate gave me the ultimatum that if I wasn't finished by 5 he was leaving without me. The good news is that I finished. Now I let my lab partner go over it and check our results, and then if all is good I hand it in. Otherwise I spend tomorrow making corrections.

This would suck, because I've got quite enough work to do tomorrow. Not to mention the fact that I have lots of midterms to study for.

I hate weekends that i have to spend working. Not the kind of work that actually pays, the kind of work that REALLY BORING PROBLEM SETS. Yes, I still have all my regular problems sets due, despite being smack in the middle of midterms. So much for trying to get ahead.

We drove for two hours to get to Santa Cruz to go to my friend Zach's house where he was throwing his "toga-ho" party. Mike had a toga but I avoided it because I really don't fill out a toga very nicely. His house is a really nice place, but "off the beaten track" is a total understatement. It was nearly 10 miles from campus along a windy dirt road. We're talking off-road SUV stuff, and all we had was a little BMW.

But we made it just before the party started. By the time the cops came at around 11, there were probably 100 people there. It was killer. And the chicks were GORGEOUS. I'm so jealous of Zach. He gets to go to a school with beautiful women everywhere, and all he had to do to get there was smoke a lot of weed. Me? I went to all my classes, got good grades, never broke the law (until recently)...I feel jacked.

But the party was fun anyway, mostly for eye-candy purposes. One girl was wearing this blue corset with only black underwear...that was a good combination. I also ran into someone from camp...that was weird. He didn't recognize me, which was just as well. I hate that guy. *I* think he's an asshole. And that's saying A LOT, as you can probably imagine.

Anyway, to replies!

Spot: <<yes, I do run on solar batteries>>: Despite being a creature of the night/vampire, I do enjoy the sunlight when I'm forced into it. That's why I'm gonna live in LA instead of this depressing hellhole. <<Don't let the secret out!>>: It was out the second men became smart enough to stay single. <<Please use language you would find in a journal article when writing reports>>: That IS language I'd find in a journal article! If you can't laugh at yourself... <<But will you use it for good or evil>>: Hopefully evil, then he can help me out. <<B*tchfights between academics are fun>>: And potentially very scary. <<there's this girl who keeps calling me the Dark Prince of Vinyl>>: The response will be "don't date her". <<Watch what I say around Josh and Gside. They take things FAR too literally>>: We're engineers. We don't understand subtlety. <<here I was hoping you'd tell us what YOU call it>>: I call it painful. <<So that's what your plan is>>: Going nicely so far.

The Wizard: <<10 at night on a Friday. I must have _really_ been tired>>: Or there was an orgy being held in your room. <<Me and my friends were wondering if we should crash the place...literally...with some CO2 tennis-ball launchers>>: Forgot CO2 tennis ball launchers. Its all about hairspray powered, 6 foot ABS potato cannons. <<At least you hadn't just gotten out of the shower>>: Tit bit nipply in here... <<only to kick my PCs a$$>>: That might hurt my foot. Dropping it out a window, on the other hand... <<you've got a desire to lose females within a 10 mile radius>>: I think she's stuck with him. <<It's five and a half feet tall>>: You're not that tall. <<It was hard enough to explain to my class how I even _posed_ for the thing>>: I don't wanna know...or do I? <<Squiffy? Sounds like a tribble>>: No, its a rather ugly gun. <<And now for the remaining periodic elements>>: Yuck, yuck. <<it's been my experience that most computer geeks are a$$holes because they're really jaded because of wrongs in the past (he used to pick on me!) or aren't getting any>>: Really, its been my experience that most computer geeks are really nice, hoping that someone else will like them. <<Of course...it was mine>>: Watch it, you're gonna start sounding like me. <>: Actually, I am ALWAYS thinking about sex. Sorta. <<More answers simply raise more questions>>: I have yet to see a single coherent reason to give you Portugal. <<Le faint>>: And its firewire, so its hot-swappable. <<Your friend's a cradle-robber>>: Actually I have several friends in that category. <<the bigger the hard drive, the more babes you could plea...uh, nevermind>>: No, you're halfway right. The bigger the hard drive, the more cash you must have in your wallet... <<with contact lenses my vision is corrected to 20/20>>: Pathetic. <<Perhaps not discredit, but at least ignore>>: If I could ignore women... <<if you guys think about sex so often, how can we *ever* take you seriously?>>: But guys are ALWAYS thinking about sex. So there's no "filter" for our behavior. Its just how we are. Women behave differently every day. <<Better to have the opposite party not know that little bump in the biological cycle>>: One of these days I'm gonna map all my friends. <<For the love of...why?!?!?!>>: Because if I don't I fail. <<At least our classes are *openly* perverse>>: Well, my classMATES are openly perverse, that'll have to do. <<was that one comment a ray of amusement in a regularly bland class>>: No that class is a lot of fun. The other kids in it are pretty entertaining. <<There's _nothing_ around here>>: You're just not looking hard enough. Check ticketmaster.com for your area. <<that didn't stop the guys last week from some freakin' hard-core *groping*>>: Did you enjoy that? ;-) <<for their sakes AS WELL AS yours>>: Thank you!

Patrick: <<it's amazing how many chicks go crazy when a guy wears tights>>: Depends on the guy. <<Angelina Jolie has always been... shall we say, a bit kookie>>: Dude, her brother is usually her date! <<Stop the planet please... I want to get off.>>: Good line. <<Whoever was responsible for that decision should be fired immediately>>: And probably will be when 20,000 angry trek fans write in. <<Ties are the one item of clothing that can't go out of fashion fast enough>>: God that is SO true. I *HATE* ties. They are the spawn of Satan. The real obnoxious part is that it isn't too hard to look classy without one. Yet they prevail. When I am king... <<Discovering that Vulcan women don't wear bras>>: When you've got boobs like that... <<I'd be perfectly happy with just seeing the footage from the smart missle as it chases a turban into a cave>>: And what a charming piece of footage that would be.

Green Baron: <>: My advice: get into the music scene. <>: So go party with them! What's the confusion? <<what do you expect when people with oversized egos with too much money are unsupervised>>: Microsoft. <>: I'm sorry. Even though my family is Jewish, its nice to be able to at least spend the holidays with them. <<You wanna sell tickets or should I>>: You do it. I'm too busy. <<The black market is tax-free>>: Except for the whole "go to jail" thing. <<how he removed Reiner's eye and killed Alec Baldwin>>: A republican cat...who knew? <>: Hey I go to Berkeley and all its done is convince me that lefties are unrealistic idiots. <<who surrender as soon as a German walks into Paris>>: Really now? Cuz my bloodline is German... Josh's plan for world domination begins! <<have you ever thought of being a lumberjack?>>: LOL!

DPH: You'll be thrilled to know that I deposited your check today.

Ravyn: <<Damn. I laughed.>>: Dweeb. Okay, now that I've said that, do me a favor and don't blow up at me if it happens to be your time of the month. ::grumbles:: <<I'm really startin' to think like you>>: RUN! FEMALES THAT THINK LIKE SJ! Hey, wait a second...that could be a VERY good thing. <<Especially the article reporting on the hijackers burning in Hell>>: I liked the "God Clarifies 'No Killing' Rule".

Courtney: We have a general policy that we don't allow stupid questions in here. The new stories will be up when they're posted. No sooner.

Queen of Pain: <<make me an immature geek>>: No, it just makes you a geek. Immaturity isn't controlled by those things. <<Speaking of the doofus he broke up with his girlfriend, well actually her mom>>: Wait he broke up with her mom!? <<His ex girlfriend is not yet 16 and he's 19>>: That's nothing. My roommate's sister was dating a 19 year old when she was 13! <<"Too the Pain" type of punishment>>: Amen. <>: Head up the butt? <<He is afterall named "Josh"... sorry to PUNish you all like that>>: Those were BOTH terrible. <>: Big boobs don't turn you on? <<1013<-----The day my new Computer arives>>: Isn't the anticipation just killing you? I remember waiting for my baby.

Archwolf: Long time no see. <<Lots of stupid people out there now. I hate stupid ppl. I think after we destroy the Taliban, we should declare war on stupid people>>: How would you like a job in my government?

Lynati: <<I've been alternating between this song on repeat for hours strait and a Linkin Park CD on repeat since about 5 yesterday>>: You have good taste in music. <>: Why not?

SOROW: <<And I was hot stuff today at our dance performance, shaking my booty>>: You're gonna be the stripper at G2k2, right? ;-)

Gside: <>: I have three midterms and three problem sets. <<Oh, I was there>>: That would explain it. <<!#$@ I thought there was a k>>: Normally there is, but in my case...its just "Mac Daddy" ;-) <<Best way to do it>>: I'm sure acid works faster. <>: This is true. I prefer |\| as well. <<Most likely evil>>: Good plan. <<You are only begining to see the truth>>: Actually... <<You do want everyone to see it, but these are not the droids you are looking for>>: LOL. <<Mmm>>: I don't think it was THAT kind of pose. <<Group B, here>>: Both groups for me. <>: LOL what a great idea. IE 5.1 supports that too...but its a hassle.

Okay folks, crash time.

Norway pretty much sucks.
-Warpmind de Inzane, TGS Comment Room

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, September 30, 2001 04:58:44 AM
IP: adsl-64-170-152-251.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Imzadi> <<don't take classes that require essays>>: It's so nice to be in all ECE/CS classes, but in exchange I have three lab type things due this week (using matlab, C, and assembly)
<<ECE majors>>: Yes, yes I am.
<<Could you be more specific?>>: No.
<<How did you know that?>>: Oh, I was there.
<>: So should I. I can only apply it to the really minor stuff.
<<How about just "mac">>: !#$@ I thought there was a k.
<<One of many, I'm sure>>: But of course.
<<We'll just drive her nuts with counterexamples>>: Best way to do it.
<<whether "N" should be "|\|" or |V">>: I vote |\|, but it's annoying releasing and repressing shift.

Fleur> <<But will you use it for good or evil?>>: Most likely evil.
<<They take things FAR too literally>>: You are only begining to see the truth.

Niamhgold> <<I'll have to ask the optometrist>>: Why? I just used a ruler and my hand.
<<I'm not sure I want everyone to see it>>: You do want everyone to see it, but these are not the droids you are looking for.
<<how I even _posed_ for the thing>>: Mmm...
<<most computer geeks are a$$holes because they're really jaded because of wrongs in the past (he used to pick on me!) or aren't getting any>>: Group B, here.
Spacebabie> <<...make me an immature geek>>: Geek, yes. Immature, I'd like to think not.

Niamhgold> <<D@mn you Gside>>: Heh, heh, heh. I rather like the "prefill form" in Netscape 6.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, September 30, 2001 03:12:22 AM
IP: nat01-mccr-ext.rutgers.edu

*blinx* 10?!

lol Oh well, in any case, I'm still alive and well and will catch up again when I get my hands on the posts I missed!

Bye!!! *HUGZ all and poofs*
Caliope
Sunday, September 30, 2001 02:38:25 AM
IP: ppp-196-42-36-157.coqui.net

9th!
Tim
Sunday, September 30, 2001 02:32:05 AM
IP: wsc0072.wsc.edu

8th!

**^_^**
Mooncat
Sunday, September 30, 2001 02:05:12 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

**Winterwolf enters carrying Dreamie in his arms**

This is a busy weekend for both of us. Hopefully we'll have some time for a full post soon.

Top ten! 7! We got number seven!

Woo Hoo! Good night.

**Winterwolf carries Dreamie out after a long kiss goodnight**

Dreamie and Winterwolf
Sunday, September 30, 2001 02:02:58 AM
IP: pool-141-155-119-76.ny5030.east.verizon.net

Top ten!
Fleur
Sunday, September 30, 2001 01:20:47 AM
IP: proxy2.mel.pacific.net.au

Fifth!!!!!!
Gavin
Sunday, September 30, 2001 01:15:00 AM
IP: dh171.scarlett.mtsu.edu

FOURTH! :)
Ravyn and Coyote
Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:48:27 AM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

SPLAT!

Top ten
Am I 3rd?
Spacebabie
Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:34:35 AM
IP: proxy.iad3.netsetter.com

D@mn you Gside ;) Second, then ;)
Niamhgold
Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:22:50 AM
IP: 206.41.204.140

** Niamhgold enters **

First?!?
Niamhgold
Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:22:25 AM
IP: 206.41.204.140

1st
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:22:09 AM
IP: nat01-mccr-ext.rutgers.edu