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DPH> <<You knew it would be funny to send a package containing one of the following to somebody: baking power, baking soda, powdered sugar, or white chalk.>>

*blinks* no, this wouldn't be funny. I guess I just don't comprehend the humor in doing this. People dying by acts of terrorism isn't comical to me.

<<Unfortunately, sending such a package might result in jail time. I wonder if it would still result in jail time if there was a letter that identified the substance.>>
Unfortunately? No - rightfully so. Yes, major jail time... a lady in the area did a "joke" and was fined $5,000 and sentenced to 3 years in jail. This is NOT a joke nor a situation to be joking around with.

Jan
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:17:03 PM
IP: modem20-219.mo-net.com

Just a few things

*****Speculation about Buffy aka spoilish thoughts**********

Does Willow still have that tablet that D'noffrin guy gave her? You don't suppose she might use it to become a real vengence demon do you?

and what was that thing Dawn pocketed? In the Magic box she took a golden coin of some kind.
*************END SPOILISH THOUGHTS ABOUT BUFFY**************

Rbullock>>>I agree with SJ you have a bug up your rear with Giuliani. What is your general beef with the guy? is it because he cleaned up New York? Is it because he is a rpublican? I feel it something besides what he did today to set you over the edge.
Spacebabie
Orlando
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:07:30 PM
IP: proxy.or3.marketscore.com

Well, I saw the most recent episode of "Buffy" tonight (and just one week before I see the musical episode - though I'm still uncertain if that's something that I want to be looking forward to :) - more based on my general attitude towards musicals, actually).

* BUFFY SPOILERS *

Quite a lot going on in this one. I definitely feel troubled by Willow's behavior, insisting on using a spell for every occasion regardless of whether it's needed or not, and don't blame Tara for her concern. And then, to top it off, Willow actually makes Tara forget about her worries. That's definitely alarming - and if Tara ever realizes what happened there, things are definitely going to get ugly.

And as for Dawn, she *definitely* needs some serious disciplining. Cutting school in the latter part of Season Five (incidentally, I've sometimes wondered whether that stemmed from her mother's death or from the shock of discovering that she was the Key rather than a "real girl", which could lead from there to the attitude that since she's just a piece of magical energy turned into a person, what's the point of carrying out that person's duties?), and now heading off on a Halloween date with a couple of vampires, and lying to Buffy about her whereabouts. One *hopes* that her latest misadventure will get her to settle down a little.

So Spike likes the Great Pumpkin Halloween special, does he? (Then again, I rather like it too).

And it looks as if Xander's starting to have second thoughts about marrying Anya. Maybe the rumors that somebody - I think that it was Sevarius Jr. - mentioned about his going to get cold feet and running off leaving Anya standing at the altar - not a very wise thing to do to an ex-vengeance demon, if you ask me, especially not given the sort of things that she was wreaking vengeance upon - are accurate).

So why don't vampires in the Buffyverse like Halloween (given that this is the third "Buffy" episode that mentioned this)? The "over-commercialism" of the holiday?

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, November 3, 2001 10:27:37 PM
IP: sdn-ar-002mosloup025.dialsprint.net

Hey lookie, this is turning into the Gargoyles Adult Comment Room. All I need now is for someone to start professing their love of hermaphrodite porn or to start asking questions about where Zafiro hides his junk.

Well, it's the 4th inning of the World Series game, and Arizona is up 13 to 0. You would hope that you'd be able to say, "Diamondbacks win this game". Well, they DIDN'T win the last two.

So, note to Diamondbacks: DON'T PUT THE ASIAN IN THERE. Okay? Because then you will LOSE. I don't care if you were up 187 runs to 0, that idiot would pitch so that every mofo would be hitting home runs off of him. So don't stick his ass in there, if you want to win. If this is all a big mob-related scame to have the Diamondbacks throw the series, than, by all means, have him pitch. But if you want to win, keep him out of there. It'd be all over now if you hadn't decided to put him at the last minute. This isn't little league, where you have to let every retard on the team play an inning. The quote at the end is for you, Mr. Kim.

Clinton: What can you say, the man's got a ego bigger than most planets. His ego is so large, that it does have its own gravitational pull. It seems to suck ugly whores and fast food into its nexus at any given moment.
Basically, Bill's story here is that he's a little upset that, in the midst of, oh I don't know, all of this death and fear, HIS name isn't being printed in the papers. God forbid Osama Bin Laden gets more press than William Clinton. So, for a man who's supposedly so smart, he says something incredibly stupid, because of his ego. Bill, you HAD a WTC bombing. And you could have taken care of the problem then, by taking on the terrorist network who was behind it. You didn't. Osama bin Laden blew up the U.S.S. Cole, and all Bill did was drop a couple missiles on a few tents. Perhaps if he had been a little less concerned with getting blown by a fat chick in the Oval Office, and a little more concerned with the actions of groups like Al-Qaeda, than perhaps we wouldn't be in a world of sh!t right now.

Rbullock: Seems to me you've got problems with Guiliani that go way past what just happened recently. SMELL the partisanship!
It was very unfortunate that those firemen were arrested, but hey, if they don't have to be there at that time, and if they're impeding the cleanup effort, than they should not be done at ground zero. It's bad enough that we have celebrities hanging out down there, we don't need firemen, who know better, doing that too.

"Anyone who runs is V.C. Anyone who stands still is well-disciplined V.C."
---Door Gunner, Full Metal Jacket
Sevarius "Animal Mother" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Saturday, November 3, 2001 10:11:08 PM
IP: 66-44-62-219.s219.tnt5.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

With all that has been going on lately did anyone get a chance to see what that a**hole Giuliani did to the New York Fire Department? Ma, I always knew that man was a freaking Nazi want-to-be but damn he just stepped over the line. Isn't it amazing that he wanted to remove all those men after all the gold and silver that was lost was found.
Rbullock - [rbull25201@aol.com]
Mt. Airy, Maryland, USA
Saturday, November 3, 2001 10:01:38 PM
IP: ac9c5ed5.ipt.aol.com

Hmm, if I take my time with this post, it might make the top 10.

**FUNNY/SERIOUS THOUGHT**
You knew it would be funny to send a package containing one of the following to somebody: baking power, baking soda, powdered sugar, or white chalk.

Unfortunately, sending such a package might result in jail time. I wonder if it would still result in jail time if there was a letter that identified the substance.
**END FUNNY/SERIOUS THOUGHT**

Jan - what kind of ego does Clinton have?

For all you Illuminati (looks around and thinks I better get credit for spelling it right THIS time) spoofs: would be the odds that the Illuminati didn't know about the terrorist attacks ahead of time?

Happy birthday Spacebabie!!

Imzadi - <You know what the coolest thing is about having my computers wirelessly linked? I can start my post on my tower. Then, later in the day, when I'm downstairs, I can take my laptop, open up the file, and keep right on working on it, even saving it wirelessly back to my tower with virtually no delay.> So that's how you get such short posts.

Imzadi - it doesn't take super powers to beat super villains. What about iron man? It takes either super powers or a special equipped suit to beat super villains. <Anyone who touches a computer of mine without permission loses both hands.> **DPH opens a portal to Imzadi's dwellings that opens within 1/4 inch of Imzadi's laptop, reaches in and touches Imzadi's laptop, pulls his hand back in the portal, and closes the portal. DPH checks and notices both of his hands are still attached to his body.**

Robby - thanks for clearing things up about Reboot.

DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, November 3, 2001 09:59:17 PM
IP: max1-58.cwy.cei.net

Jan: No problem. I'm sure our friend Siofra can tell ya the same thing I"m about to. It's the annual Michigan-MSU game I'm talking about, which Michigan State won on the last play, a 3 yard touchdown pass. I was IM'ing with XenaTrek as I watched the second half (got back just before the end of the first half from work), because it was a regional game on ABC, and the game they were showing in Florida was Clemson-FSU.

Understandably, I'm happy. :)
Coyote
Spartan teams are bound to win, They're fighting with a vim, RAH! RAH! RAH!
Saturday, November 3, 2001 08:05:05 PM
IP: 64.243.214.1

ok, they say that the 3rd time's a charm... sorry about this.
Patrick> I forgot to post my email address before.
Jan - [janmiller@mo-net.com]
Saturday, November 3, 2001 08:03:09 PM
IP: modem25-313.mo-net.com

well drats.. the first post is to Josh. geesh *blushes*
Jan
Saturday, November 3, 2001 07:58:36 PM
IP: modem25-313.mo-net.com

<<Are you implying that his lack of military service would have somehow affected how the nation reacted to terrorism? No WAY! He'd have done exactly what Bush did: held a meeting with a bunch of advisors and do exactly what THEY suggest. >>
*insert Political rant warning*
No, I didn’t say that. It doesn’t matter who is president as to how the American people reacted to the WTC attack. I do know that more people are glad that Bush is the president during this time of war instead of Gore or Clinton.
You seem to have this real hard on about advisory committees. You’ve made negative comments about it before. Running this county is not a feat for ONE man to do. It requires a team effort and the success of that team is to assign or gather people who are good at their jobs and can work together. This is a difference between Clinton and Bush, Clinton always took all of the credit and Bush is more of a team player and gives the whole team credit. If there’s blame or fault to be given, Clinton blamed the committee but Bush accepts the responsibility. This shows what it means to have real character and integrity.
My point was that Clinton claims that he would have done a better a job during this situation than what Bush has done so far. Well, you know what? He had eight years to do something about terrorism, and he chose not to do anything. He squandered eight years. He slashed defense spending, misused the military for international police action, and undermined the CIA. It goes on and on and on.
To say that he didn’t have a chance to show his greatness because the WTC didn’t happen while he was president…. Bill Clinton WAS president when the World Trade Center was attacked - in 1993. Remember the first one? He was the president. There just weren't enough deaths to make it safe for him to lead then. Clinton, with Madeleine Albright, did declare war on terrorism. They did, and then promptly did nothing about it. So yeah, tell me again of how he would be doing a better job right now.
The man has NO class whatsoever. How many other past presidents have had the gall to say “well, if *I* was still the president, I would do this and that differently and do it better”
He can’t stand the fact that he’s no longer the center of attention. He wants to spearhead the post-terrorism revival of his adopted hometown. Clinton spoke to the Association for a Better New York. Does making a speech spearhead a revival? No. What exactly is he doing other than giving this speech? There's nothing in the whole story that says what he's going to do. Now, there are loads of people doing stuff to spearhead the revival of the city - from Mayor Giuliani to the police commissioner to the mayoral candidates on down. So what is he going to do for New York City?
I don’t want to hear of or see Clinton – especially now. He set us up for what is going on now and I have nothing but the ultimate contempt for the man.

*end political rant*

Terrky> << dun worry, imma keep postin all the damn song lyrics i want...>> While I appreciate your love for music and knowing the lyrics, it is very annoying to constantly see lyrics being posted here. It was once suggested that if someone has lyrics that they’d like to share on a regular basis, put them on a website page and then add the link to your name when you post. This eliminates others – who have no interest in reading the lyrics - from having to continuously scroll down the page to get past them. Also, it takes up unnecessary space on the page. This has been an addressed issue before and everyone has complied with the wishes of others. If you are going to choose to be a part of this group, then consideration for others is an important element in making friends with others. The attitude of “I’m going to do it anyway” will only cause friction and for others to stop reading your posts. i.e. you will be ignored or chastised.
I happen to love Chicago, the Beatles, and REO Speedwagon too…. However, I do not wish to read the lyrics to their songs here. If I wanted to read lyrics, I would go to the appropriate website and do so… or just sing along to them on the CD’s that I have.

Also, what part of Kansas are you from? I lived in Liberal, KS for a few years. In fact, both of my children were born there. I apologize to them quite frequently because of that. ;) Both would have preferred being Texas born.

Spacebabie> Happy Birthday!! *throws confetti* Heh, French food, huh? I love French food and those who speak with (Belgian) French accents ;)

Warpmind> when do you receive your glasses? I can’t imagine going any time at all without mine. There’s no way I could actually function without my glasses, so they’d have to have some type of immediate alternative to sending my glasses off for a few days.

Patrick> *LOL!!!* BTW, would you mind posting your email address or at least send me one (I’ve posted mine). I need to ask your advice about some costuming for the Gathering. =)
I’m anxious too to find out about the hotel information. I’ve asked for the days off, have checked on airline info and now all I need is the hotel info – to see if I can actually afford this trip or not.
This retirement jig is a bit harder than I thought it was going to be… I’m not used to living on such a tight budget! =\

Discussion on male/female mating and sexual activities…. I pass.

Christine> *L* Most importantly though… did you actually buy the wings for your action figure? ; )

G-Side> << and a SNL skit>> Have you ever seen the SNL skit of “I just crapped my underpants panties” ? I don’t think I have ever laughed as hard at a SNL skit as I did that one!

Fire Storm> *L* Have you ever been to the Bass Pro Shop in Springfield? It’s like walking into some kind of animal sanctuary! At least I don’t worry about the birds flying around in there… and pecking my eyes out. They still give me the creeps.
*sais* I really would like to see the museum though. From the looks of things, it has a lot of very interesting displays. (A lot of the animals are alive) There is just no way I could handle going thru the bird area. If they were caged or behind netting, I could at least bring myself to crouch and run quickly thru the area to get to the rest of the museum – but from what I’ve seen – that’s not possible. The birds are flying freely thru out the first section of the museum. =\
<<DERN LOT BOYS ! That was me>> ummmm yes.. the first clue was in your previous post, “I am Fire Storm, not Firestorm.” *giggles*

Coyote> *chuckles* congrats! I have no idea of what you are talking about other than it pertains to sports, but you seem pretty happy over it. ; )

This has been a very peaceful day =) No agenda, no rushing around, no deadlines to finish… just lounging around the house and then driving to Monett to the SuperCenter for some shopping. We’re going to Silver Dollar City in Branson tomorrow after church. It’s the first day of their Christmas program/theme. : )

time for showering... the District is on tonight! =)
Jan
Saturday, November 3, 2001 07:57:24 PM
IP: modem25-313.mo-net.com

Terrky- Im going to assume that you took my joke without any hard feelings. I was just joking, if you couldn't tell :) I downloaded some chicago songs and listened to them, trying to see what you saw in them. I just deleted 'em.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Saturday, November 3, 2001 07:43:42 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

**runs in the room waving green and white flags, finding XenaTrek and hugging her enthusiastically**

MSU WINS! 26-24 with the final play of the game!! WHOO HOOOOOO!!

**plants a happy kiss on Ravyn** Fourth time in the last five games in East Lansing!! WHOOOOO!!

**runs jubilantly out the room singing**
Coyote the Bando
Go right through for MSU, Watch the points keep growing ...
Saturday, November 3, 2001 07:17:44 PM
IP: 64.243.214.1

Coming to you live from Leavenworth, having just dined on fondue and Swedish meatballs (with some sort of Bavarian cream horn pastry waiting for later -- yum!). And it's always a personal weirdness wake-up when, while browsing in a store of nuttin' but Xmas ornaments and seeing these gold angel wings, just the wings, no angels attached, and thinking "hey, those would be just the right size to attach to an action figure!"

Mooncat > good comments on gender relations! (and nice choice of wardrobe for your harem). I was discussing the two-girl fantasy with Tim the other day and concluded that it is probably something like this:

1. Guy, seeing two girls together, thinks they've settled for each other in the absence of a man. Ergo, opportunity!
2. Girl, seeing two guys together, thinks they must be gay. Ergo, no need for her to bother.
Which says something for the eternal optimism (or arrogance?) of the human male ; )

Fire Storm > LOL, wasn't that quote taken rather out of context? As I recall, that was from Hyena watching Battlebots in Bad Girls! Okay, for her it was porn, but construing it as _gay_ porn is sort of a stretch ... ; )

I better be going. This computer's in the clubhouse of the place we're staying, and Becca wants to shoot some pool. Toodles, folks!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, November 3, 2001 06:23:16 PM
IP: 1cust33.tnt1.wenatchee.wa.da.uu.net

Nukes go boom: <terrky k- i mean this in a friendly way, but... was english your second language?>

what? you mean becuase i use words like: werds, werk, hafta, helluva, lotta, imma, tona, ona, and i naturally make a ton of typos?

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Saturday, November 3, 2001 02:19:04 PM
IP: a010-0833.kscy.splitrock.net

Mooncat > Oooooh... costumes... I love costumes. Do you got anything in there that will show off my legs? I've been told I look very good in tights. >:) So... when would you like to hold the wedding? My calendar is wide open. ;)
G2002 > Let's see... the switch to Williamsburg will cut about a half hour off my drive. Bet I'll be playing taxi for Crzy and a few other coming in by air, too. So when do we get to hear the name of the hotel and start booking our discounted rooms? I was checking out things to do on the web site "williamsburg.com" and they said all the lodging in the entire town often books up months in advance.
Patrick Toman
Saturday, November 3, 2001 01:33:16 PM
IP: ac9425c3.ipt.aol.com

Mooncat - Now I have to share my harem with you!?! SHEESH! It's a good thing you are my evil twin (or clone or whatever!) :) I share very well... just ask my husband, I rent him out to needy women on the weekends.

Twins - Don't even get me started... ;)

Spike returns from the dead... as usual, it's because she has something to promote about herself. She is so good to us! See you in Williamsburg, Spike! >:)
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Saturday, November 3, 2001 01:04:52 PM
IP: 1cust238.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

::Trys to sneak into the CR::

ChibiZel"There she is, Get her!"
Spacie trys to run but all her chibis pounce on her. Squallkun places a brithday hat on her Delilahchan sticks a noise maker in her mouth.

Zelgadiskun"Its her 25th Birthday!"

Yup its my birthday and well we went to dinner last night. To a French restauraunt. Say what you will about French, but their food is delish. The butter was even carved into the shape of roosters, I had the escargo for an appetizer and the duck for my main course, for dessert we all had crem brule and mine had a candle in it. i also recieved an early b-day present last night. It was a pair of black boots that end right below the knee and zippers on the sides.

I love my boots.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl
Saturday, November 3, 2001 01:01:16 PM
IP: 1cust210.tnt2.orl3.da.uu.net

Patrick -- Why sir, this is all so sudden... *Mooncat grins*

Sure, you are more than welcome to be one of my Harem *^_^* -- in fact, you can be my favorite. *Mooncat dives into the closet for the silk harem pants and other fun costumes*

Here, try these on for starters *^_^*

I am will to share with Crzy if she is *^_~*

Now I have to run. Going to go see Monsters Inc. for the second time with a group of friends (saw it last night with a different group) --- Monsters Inc RULES!!! Best movie I've seen all year. Pixar has outdone themselves again.

I went last night at the 10pm show because all the earlier times were SOLD OUT -- so the crowd was mostly adult. Everyone loved it. It's definately for all ages.

Mooncat
>^,,^<

"kitty!" Boo, from Monsters Inc.
Mooncat
Saturday, November 3, 2001 12:39:20 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

** Niamhgold walks in, looks around **

Hmmm...

Well, _this_ is certainly an interesting topic. I think it's best if I lurk in the shadows during this one, or else I'm going to start off on praying mantises and the male vs female viewpoint of sex. And, frankly...I'm not going to bring feminism into this room ;)

** Slinks out **
Niamhgold
Saturday, November 3, 2001 12:37:31 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

Josh -- <<: Your logic is SOOOOOO skewed. Are you trying to say that because some guys have trouble getting girls off, there's no biological imperative for us to impregnate as many females as possible? You forget that the biological
point of sex IS NOT FEMALE PLEASURE. And if we're talking about strict biological purpose, men are driven by the instinct to mate with as many females as possible. I'm not saying it was in the original human blueprints, but since early caveman days that's pretty much been the idea. >>

Basically, once a guy pops off, the likely hood he can service the 2nd woman during the SAME sexual encounter with the intention of Making Babies is very small. So saying instinct is behind a guy's fantasy to have multiple partners AT THE SAME TIME is what I doubt. I wasn't talking about pleasure, I was talking about physical mechanics.

It's exceedingly rare for a man to pop off, and then be ready to go again right away. Keep in mind by "go again" I mean produce another load of sperm with which to impregnate the second or how many other females there are during this little tryst.

Which is why I doubt that mere base instinct derived from the primitive urges to create young (as the originally proposed theory was given) is why men fantasize about having two women at the same time.

And as for fantasy being based only on primitive biological urges, I hold that fantasy is a composite of many things, and the basic biological drives are not the main, or major reasons behind FANTASY -- Example, on in every ten men are gay (probably more) so all their sexual fantasy revolve around other men. There is no biological imperative about making children involved. The fantasies which involve elements of enviroment or situation (ie, doing it on a train/airplane, doing it with a fantasy character like Goliath or Demona *ewg*) has no biological "instinct" base.

So saying the male fantasy of being with two girls at the same time is somehow more powerful, more acceptable, more "right" because it's based on biological instinct is still, IMHO, a load of hooey.

Okay, that being said, how many of you guys who fantasize about two girls at the same time, actually realized your fantasy? IF there is real biological imperative here, then two girls at the same time should be fairly common with you studly he-men types.

>^,,^<
Mooncat

Mooncat
Saturday, November 3, 2001 12:30:23 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Josh > With an outlook like that, I wish you luck holding on to a steady girlfriend. I'd recommend studying some biology if you can work it into your class schedule. Recent studies have shown that female orgasm likely plays an important role in increasing the likelihood of sucessful procreation. And besides, it's only polite to both give AND receive.

Mooncat > Hey... will you marry me? Or at least let me join your harem? I'm already in Crzy's but I don't think she'll mind sharing. ;)

I agree with your comments all the way. In nature, there's some species where ONE male mates with all of the available females, and there's others where the females take on as many males in mating as they can find. Both methods further the same end of increasing the number of offspring produced and thereby the odds of that some will survive to reproduce themselves.
Patrick Toman
Saturday, November 3, 2001 12:10:31 PM
IP: ac944bf9.ipt.aol.com

terrky k- i mean this in a friendly way, but... was english your second language?
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:53:34 AM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

yeah, hey all. about the song lyrics thing... i was prepared to be told they were annoying... dun worry, imma keep postin all the damn song lyrics i want... whenever i think of a song worth talkin about... that doesn't mean you ever havfta read em...

and yeah, i'm still 16 and love the bealtes, chicago, styx, REO speedwagon, the rolling stones, --- in fact, before i make a whole list, just anme any classic rock band, and i prolly like em.

and yeah, i have never actually seem little nikky er whatevery it was, but EVERY time i talk about chicgao, they bring that up. i think the song was (i heard someone say) was "does anybody really know wwhat time it is" now, robert lamm wrote that song, i dun think he would put werds of the devil on there... now peter cetera on the other hand.... hell, peter cetera prolly was the devil.

eh, but anyway, imma go now, gotta werk 11 am to 2 pm. thank goodness that aint much, i really dun wanna werk today.

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
kansas
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:16:40 AM
IP: a020-0597.kscy.splitrock.net

Warps- Just trying to be friendly. "Why", never had anyone ask you that before? ;P

Josh- I dont see how someone is a jackass for asking a question thats been answered alredy. "There is no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people"-Me.

Lynati- I think the email idea is great. Mines up there.

Terkky k- Beatles? Chicago? lol. Are you sure you are 16? anyway, did you see the movie Little Nicky where Adam Sandler takes the Chicago record and plays it backwards and its all messages from satan? damn that was funny.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Saturday, November 3, 2001 09:19:32 AM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

*Warpmind strolls in, still optically challenged.*
Geez, I look forward to getting my glasses back...

Nukes: What's up, you say? Nothing special... why?

Gside: Opthamologist? Hmmm... Sounds about right... Aw, close enough, anyway. ;) As for picking up my glasses in person... well, just the trip to the opthamologist is about 50$ (that's a two-way ticket), not to mention the fact that the whole day goes by before the boat back departs...

Josh: How many? 42. };) And yes, I'm 22. And living with my parents. Y'see, what with living costs being so frickin' steep in Norway these days, I simply cannot afford any other solution before I get a job. :(

*Wanders out, singing.*
"Koukasen no kabe ni motare utsumuiteru
Doushitai no?
Damatteicha wakanarai wa

Rojou no gojuu no moji o
Mou supido de kaketeku
Kuruma no mure

Go crazy, baby!
Naabusu sugiru yo anata
Tama niwa hame
Hazushitara
Kitto kizuku yo
Don't worry, baby!
Nayanderu no wakaru kedo
Shirankao de hoozue tsuku
'Cause you are my friend"
*Disappears in loud gunfire*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, November 3, 2001 07:13:49 AM
IP: mp-217-204-35.daxnet.no

You know what the coolest thing is about having my computers wirelessly linked? I can start my post on my tower. Then, later in the day, when I'm downstairs, I can take my laptop, open up the file, and keep right on working on it, even saving it wirelessly back to my tower with virtually no delay. Of course, with an 11 megabit/second connection, there better not be a freakin' delay saving a 12k file.

Today, against my better judgement, I went to most of my classes. My schedule says I have 5 classes on friday, which is a far cry from the 1 that I usually attend. Today, I went to 4...mostly because I had to hand in assignments by noon. And I managed to attend a review for my materials midterm on monday. I'm really not looking forward to all this garbage.

Saw "The One" tonight. It had potential, but otherwise sucked. The fighting scenes needed to be longer and have more effects in them. Jet Li is a lousy actor.

Do those count as spoilers?

I also saw "Remember the Titans" tonight on TV. Pretty cool flick.

replies.

Jan: <>: Now if only I could find some flights from LA for that price. <<What, they teach this in Draft-Dodging 101>>: Are you seriously implying that his lack of military service would have somehow affected how the nation reacted to terrorism? No WAY! He'd have done exactly what Bush did: held a meeting with a bunch of advisors and do exactly what THEY suggest. <<I'm sure GW sleeps better at night because of this>>: Silly celebrities.

Shadowrider: <<this week has litterally flashed away>>: Not fast enough. <<there are so many other inteteresting things in the world>>: I don't think the people over at S8 would agree with you. <<especially if you consider aerodynamic effects>>: I wonder what the winds are like at that elevation above Manhattan. <>: You can be my friend ;-) <<Rogue from the X-men) can run without falling on their face after three steps>>: Her really big hair helps keep her balance, much the way a garg's tail does ;-) <<But all they do is for their own interest>>: Motivation is only half as important as results.

Spike: <<Rumors to the contrary, I haven't been dead>>: There were rumors you were dead? COOL! How do I get rumors spread like that about me?

Terrky: <<imma sophomore in high school>>: A YOUNG'N! Oh, and please stop posting lyrics. Its really annoying.

Christine: <<other's too fight and kill the enemy>>: This only furthers the submarine analogies about sex...

Mooncat: <<a woman with two mates reaps as much benefit as a man with two mates>>: Yeah, but the woman gets paid extra for being filmed. <<As far as I know, fantasy alone doesn't get anyone pregnant>>: Thank god. <<If guys want to rationalize the desire/fantasy to bang two girls at once as being "instinct" go for it.>>: Well how do you explain it? <<most guys can barely service ONE female satisfactorily>>: Your logic is SOOOOOO skewed. Are you trying to say that because some guys have trouble getting girls off, there's no biological imperative for us to impregnate as many females as possible? You forget that the biological point of sex IS NOT FEMALE PLEASURE. And if we're talking about strict biological purpose, men are driven by the instinct to mate with as many females as possible. I'm not saying it was in the original human blueprints, but since early caveman days that's pretty much been the idea.

Baldy: <<My vision is reduced for a couple of days>>: ::fans fingers of both hands, then puts them overlapping each other:: How many? <<optho... opthal... opthic... the dude who makes glasses>>: LOL! <>: I'd gladly put up with the bad breath jokes if *I* could incinerate people. <<at present, I am living with my parents>>: Aren't you 22 or something? Shouldn't you have moved out by now? <<Super Street Fighter II Turbo Special Edition With Extra Characters>>: Hell yeah. SFII, the original, the best. <<a bit of heightened sense of justice, a dash of vengefulness, a touch of focus, let simmer for a few years, then sprinkle with a good costume>>: Yeah, but the ones that beat SUPER-villians instead of petty crooks require super powers.

FS: <<Give it up. They will never get it right>>: You guys didn't have any trouble with MY name, and even Riker screwed it up the first time ;-) <<DERN LOT BOYS>>: Um...wtf does that mean exactly? <<All things are true>>: Even the different lottery numbers of every different fortune cookie? <<dual rotor Skycrane>>: no idea. <<the rotors looked tiny in comparison>>: They were. They'd need to be much bigger. <<what about power production>>: Onboard plant, I'm guessing. <<Same supply that the steel clan uses>>: Explosive solid propellant? I doubt it. <<We got Gym, care of fox's exercise time>>: Boing...boing...boing... <>: Oh dear. <<how can one tell if something is actually misspelled or it was used to confuse>>: You can't, and that's the beauty of 1337speek. There IS no misspelling! <>: You're an illogical irrational person? <<a DLD holding the drive>>: Depends on how I have to get her to release it. <<the beams should have cut right through them>>: I don't think they're supposed to be that powerful. Hell, these lasers didn't even cut through Goliath's SKIN. Or even Lex's. <>: I dream of hijacking Apple headquarters. <<what does that say about me>>: You're slow. <>: Bugger wouldn't answer my "boogers of Oberon" question. <<all the erotica I write is crap>>: Maybe your imagination just isn't vivid enough in that area. I blame...nevermind. <<describing it is a totally different matter>>: Its tough to do without getting repetitive. <<But he got better at it>>: But not in time to beat them at anything else. <<no worse than the people in this universe>>: is that a compliment? <<what about short, soft grey fur>>: I said furless. What part of that was confusing? <>: I could make a few educated guesses. <<Were they ribbed for her pleasure>>: If they were, then why was she giving them away? <>: It has. They become football players. <<learn how to mount it>>: If you have a desire to mount it, you'd better know by now how to already do that. <<one of my ex's didn't react too well to it>>: the rack or two men? <<message to TGS staff>>: Even if they did, stupid people would still keep asking.

DPH: <<personally, if was walking in with such a valuable item, I would have had extra security in place>>: Anyone who touches a computer of mine without permission loses both hands.

Joanne: Oh we read the comments. We just ignore the obnoxious ones that ask when the next season is.

Lady Mystic: <<Or something along the lines of an estimated date>>: Like, "LATER!"

Lynati: <<Not sure it'll be worth it>>: Probably not. There's always another jackass that asks.

Gside: <<being a fourth year registering for junior level classes, that's no surprise. I get to register before anyone else>>: You and water polo players. <<I've seen it a couple times>>: Yuck. Link me. Nah, just kidding. Or am I? <<Felicia doesn't have a bad pattern on her legs and upper body>>: Link me. <<but I'm nicely padded just about everywhere else>>: Not interested. <<You know it's those raging orgies>>: I wish. <<That's not what you said last night>>: Actually, I think is. <<1.01 children per nine months versus 2.02 children per nine months>>: How do you have 1.01 children per nine months? Oh, are you taking into account the probability of twins? <<Which is why they use it>>: Sad, really. My friend found a bug in his code the other day because he couldn't spell a freakin' function name.

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.
-Tyler Durden (Brad Pitt), Fight Club

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, November 3, 2001 05:13:40 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-206.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Enterprise-I really like the show, I admit it. AND I like the opening scene too. Everytime there's a new series it takes awhile for them to get into a steady rythem.

Fire Storm- No problem, anytime you don't want me to remind you of something just let me know.

I got my cable, can watch Enterprise, X-men evolution, Babylon 5 and all that good stuff, but no Gargoyles. sniff, sniff...sob.

Christine- I'm a twin...maybe that's why we've tried to "one up" each other.

Later.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Saturday, November 3, 2001 03:04:03 AM
IP: acad536b.ipt.aol.com

Gside - <<So a female who chooses a good mate gets a higher chance of having children each time and strong shildren to carry on her genetic material.>>

I think that was part of my point. The more selection a female has, the better the chance for her to get the superior gene stock.

<>: Right, but was it natural, or was there a lab (accident) involved? >>

Natural. The discussion was about a paternity suit.

<<a woman with two mates reaps as much benefit as a man with two mates>>: But there's still statistically 1.01 children per nine months versus 2.02 children per nine months.

Humans do not generally pop out kids every nine months, statistics or no. A perfectly fertile couple can bang like rabbits on viagra for YEARS and not produce a child, then several years down the line when they least expect it, BOOM, a baby. Others seem to get pregnant without even trying. One man with two women or one woman with two men, the whole point is that the greater number of mates is beneficial to "the one" involved.

<<Then it's possible instinct helps determines which fantasies are more powerful>>

I don't see what you are trying to say here. Fantasy is dependent on many factors. Instinct can be a factor, but there's nothing that I know of that shows instinct produces "more powerful" fantasy than other factors.

If guys want to rationalize the desire/fantasy to bang two girls at once as being "instinct" go for it. I think that's a lot of hooey, but whatever floats your boat.

Basically, I doubt the male fantasy of doing two females at the same time has any roots in biological imperative, as most guys can barely service ONE female satisfactorily, much less be virile enough to to service two at the *same* time, for the purpose of procreation.

Just some thoughts
Mooncat >^,,^<
Mooncat
Saturday, November 3, 2001 02:17:57 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

hey all... thought i'd type the lyrics to "Tell Me" i wanna do that song so bad when i start my band.. it does the american sprit good....

tell me
about the sun
tell me
about the rain

tell me
about the feilds
tell me
about the plains

will they come again?
i dunno
will they ever come again?
i dunno

god above!
is there not anything that we might do?
to try and make this world of ours
a better place for me and you?

OH, tell me
all about man
tell me
so i can understand

tell me
somebody, all about wars
please try and tell me
just how much more

oh, pray it's not too late
please everybody
pray it's not too late
it's not too late

oh,come on

god bless america
today
god bless america
today

oh, all the brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers

god bless america
today
god bless america
today

GOD BLESS AMERICA!! (and repete over and over)

anyway, theres that song. it was off some soundstrck from some movie.. can't remember at this point what though... but i soooo wanna sing that song when our band get going inna couple of years. i can sing like Terry, but i just gotta learn how to be as good of a guitar player as him. that song dun have alotta guitar in it though. very inspirational non-the-less

it's funny how a song made over twenty years ago can still relate to today.

well... anyway, just thought i'd post.. stuff.

not much goin on right now. got off werk early cause they din need me, cause we were only semi busy... that and, i got all the dishes caught up so that they wouldn't have to mess with them when they close.

i think i wanna listen to the beatles about now... GREAT IDEA!!! *gets his Bealtes CD*

she loves you
yeah yeah yeah

eh, but anyway... well, i aint got much more to say.. so i must be off!!! *trys to fly into the wind* *but seeing as the wind is not really a phsycal object, i can't fly into it, so i must fly with it...* *flys with the wind* there that makes more sense... i think...

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Saturday, November 3, 2001 12:56:44 AM
IP: a010-1118.kscy.splitrock.net

Imzadi> << my roommate, who can't get into ANY of his classes (EECS)>>: Heh. I had no problems. Of course, being a fourth year registering for junior level classes, that's no surprise. I get to register before anyone else.
<<The "lying in bed smoking">>: Not from Wilek. Maybe a Screaming Decapitated Head, but that's not quite in opposition enough.
<>: You should read more hentai manga. I've seen it a couple times, once even in an incestual one.
<>: True, but there's some fur I don't disapprove of. Felicia doesn't have a bad pattern on her legs and upper body.
<<you lack those comfy pillow thingies>>: but I'm nicely padded just about everywhere else.
<<Who?>>: The wizzard type guy now saddled with Cthulu.
<<You don't. Posting does>>: You know it's those raging orgies.
<<Violins>>: Those are just streached, there's not much that could be considered knitting.
<<That is a general statement, and far from true for all females>>: For the fist part, of course. For the second, I would like to remind you of my lack of first hand experience.
<>: That's not what you said last night.

Mooncat> <<Some men produce better, more active sperm>>: So a female who chooses a good mate gets a higher chance of having children each time and strong shildren to carry on her genetic material.
<>: Right, but was it natural, or was there a lab (accident) involved?
<<a woman with two mates reaps as much benefit as a man with two mates>>: But there's still statistically 1.01 children per nine months versus 2.02 children per nine months.
<<Well if we are getting into the realm of fantasy>>: Then it's possible instinct helps determines which fantasies are more powerful.

Warpmind> <<at the optho... opthal... opthic... the dude who makes glasses>>: Opthamologist?
<<just leaving the frames at the... dude who makes glasses until he could mail them to me>>: I did that last time, but picked them up instead of mailing them. And I managed to get through it without proposing to an ox.
<<Regular fighting games aren't exactly my number one priority>>: Right. But Mei's rather bouncy.

Fire Storm> <<Actually, I am>>: I think he was referring to the drugs, and a SNL skit.
<<in leet... how can one tell if something is actually mispelled or it was used to confuse>>: You can't. Which is why they use it.<<For him! He was able to FEEL what the monster felt>>: But do we really want them controlled?
<<damn. And i am hungry too>>: So get your own heart, don't rely on baby Cthulu.
<<Bonuses are good!>>: Any requests? Are the music videos any good? I can't fit any Trigun. And yes, that is plural videos.
<<Well, the rack can help in that respect>>: But that's the wrong direction, and it's more toroidal stretching. Have you seen what's been in the html title of Exploitation Now for the last while?
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, November 3, 2001 12:45:55 AM
IP: nat01-mccr-ext.rutgers.edu

Hi everyone;

Just red the latest posts on the CR and just wanted to clarify something.

Reboot Season 4: This will be aired as two movies in Canada, but it hasn't yet. YTV is scheduled to air them on Nov 18 and 25 from 4-6PM EST. Just wanted to post this so that my fellow Cannuks wouldn't think that they missed it.

Goodnight

Yggdrasil - [eng050599@hotmail.com]
Ontario, Canada
Friday, November 2, 2001 11:44:30 PM
IP: cr822219-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com

oh, by the way... the K still stands for Kath. the Terrky stands for the typo, and the K stands for Kath
Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Friday, November 2, 2001 11:22:13 PM
IP: a010-1118.kscy.splitrock.net

hey all, <Terkky or Terrky - what's the story behind that name?>

the story behind my name.. is well, i long story. but to make that long story short...

Terry Kath from chicago... my guitar idol... anyway, i made a AIM SN that was Terry Kath 2ooo (the 2ooo is kinda my trademark) anyway, one of my on-line buddies thinks terry sucks as a guitarist because he was not a heavy metal guitarist.. so he decides to make fun of my name by calling me terry kathy. so, one day he was typeing terry kathy, typed Terrky athy. so, Terrky stuck with me, but i left athy out. so, my name is Terrky. odd huh? so i have a new SN on AIM that is Terrky2ooo.

see yall! -={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Friday, November 2, 2001 11:10:31 PM
IP: a010-1118.kscy.splitrock.net

*leans in*

Joanne and y'all in Ireland : *I* read these comments. and If I have anything worth saying, I respond to them. The new season should be starting soon. and barring that, it'll start when it starts. We're actually working, not slacking.
(...okay, *I'm* slacking, but what I'm doing isn't going to be relevent until a month after the season starts, at the least.)

I'm thinking about composing a list of the emails of all the people (who leave them) posting here asking when the season starts, so I can give them a 'heads up'. Not sure it'll be worth it, tho.

Heh. I spent 6 hours loading a kiln today. such fun. =P

*flops back to wait and see if anyone is going to become talkative on IM's.*
Lynati
Friday, November 2, 2001 10:26:45 PM
IP: 207.221.70.39

<<Should there be a little message in the New Story area thats says something like: "The new story will be ready when it is ready! So stop asking!" ?>>
Or something along the lines of an estimated date (as in month or season, such as Autumn or Winter) posted on each series main page and the current episode page? If so, I could put it up when I make the site update. (I'll just need to know what to announce.)
Lady Mystic - [ladydashmysticatusadotnet]
Friday, November 2, 2001 09:52:12 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

I swear...

TGS STAFF: Should there be a little message in the New Story area thats says something like: "The new story will be ready when it is ready! So stop asking!" ?
;)
Fire Storm
Friday, November 2, 2001 09:30:23 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

I was just wondering when season 4 is starting becaues I've been waiting for the past few months and still I have heard nothing. I have left a coment similar to this one but I got no reply ,this makes me think that no body even reads these coments . So would you please make an efort to reply. I love the work your doing but I just feel let down ,as do a lot of other people, that you won't even give a rough date for season 4. Thanks in advance love Joanne Hamilton.
Joanne, Cathrine, zoe, Hamilton - [jczoe1@yahoo.com]
Dublin, Ireland
Friday, November 2, 2001 09:23:56 PM
IP: inktomi1-dub.server.ntl.com

DPH- Uhm, actually, Daemon Rising *WAS* an hour and 45 minute movie. Mainframe wrote it, pitched it, sold it, and made it as one, and Canada's YTV aired it all at once in the format it was supposed to have. (ANd they aired the second movie last week all in one chunk too, which we don't even start on until next week...) Cartoon Network just had it broken up so they could get 7 or 8 weeks of play value out of it rather than 2, and so DBZ would only air 4 times a week, so they could stretch that out some too. Thats why the "cliffhanger" moments at the end of the first three episodes weren't really all that cliffhangerish, they were just supposed to be commercial breaks. And personally, I was very pleased with the end of the Daemon saga, I've already watched it twice, it was very . Won't dwell on it cause I don't wanna spoil anything for the other people who have been following it... But I liked it.
Robby
Friday, November 2, 2001 09:16:44 PM
IP: acad2e4c.ipt.aol.com

*** TGS CR ANNOUNCEMENT ***

Gorebash posted some news in the Station 8 Gargoyles forum that involves the TGS CR. I'm posting it here for those who don't visit that board.

-----

I want to give everyone a heads up.

The server change I've been expecting is approaching soon, although I can't say exactly when yet. However, if there comes a time in the near future (this month) that the comment room and ask greg stops working (along with the tgs board) this is because s8 has moved to a new server but I haven't yet finished getting things set up. So don't worry about it.

-----

Visit my name link to view his post.

*** END TGS CR ANNOUNCEMENT ***
Lady Mystic - [<-- s8 Gargoyles forum]
Head Admin of TGS CR Information
Friday, November 2, 2001 09:16:15 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Ok... this is just silly.

Apparently, loud music gives Meth stronger effects.
Just ckeck the link!
Fire Storm - [<--- DEATH... by MUSIC!]
Friday, November 2, 2001 09:07:06 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

One more thing: I took time today to read the original Ask Greg archives. It took 3 hours to read through it and I was skimming some things.
DPH
Friday, November 2, 2001 08:41:56 PM
IP: max1-65.cwy.cei.net

I was just checking out the calendar. Winter in 2001 officially begins on December 21.

Terkky or Terrky - what's the story behind that name?

**REBOOT SPOILERS**
Two word summary: let down. They resolved the Daemon problem now. It's only the 4th story. If that was supposed to be a 1 hour and forty five minute movie, I could live with it. I was hoping that some sort of alliance would be set up between some of the worlds Matrix visited and Mainframe to deal with Daemon. It's now apparant that virus's can't infect one another. I have been wondering where the surfer dude was, but now I want to watch the next story to explain to explain about who he brought with him?

Spike - Hey, it's 'Dia del Muerto' not 'Dias de los Muertos'. The former translates Day of the Dead and the later translates Days of the Dead.

Imzadi - personally, if was walking in with such a valuable item, I would have had extra security in place (see my entrance when I brought my checkbook with me). <who's offering>the usual would-be bringers of the end of the world. The deal would be I couldn't personally oppose them or I'd have to wait for an event [the event would be, basically, they're 2-3 steps away from bringing out the end of the world] to happen before I could oppose them. Of course, I can't mention whether it would be possible to get around those conditions.

**DPH opens a portal into HFIL. Unfortunately, nothing appears to come out right away so DPH closes the portal.**

Oh well, I guess somebody was anticapating my move **looks around and spots a creature in the CR** or maybe not.

DPH
AR, USA
Friday, November 2, 2001 08:37:00 PM
IP: max1-65.cwy.cei.net

Imzadi: <Turns out EVERYONE is up after Gside>
What can I say! I am non-solar centric.
<In its pure form, O2 is quite deadly>
True, true, but not at the 17-20% it is at in the atmosphere.
<Too many, most of which are wrong>
All things are true. ;)
<Especially for those of us who plan on having one!>
You build above ground, I build under it.
<Sky cranes. Huge granite bricks aren't as heavy as 150,000 ton girders>
True...
Say... what is the name of the dual rotor Skycrane? I saw it years ago. Both rotors are at the same location on the helicopter, not at opposite ends.
<1? 6 helicopter rotors>
BUT how did either of them stay in the air? I mean, the rotors looked tiny in comparison to the craft it's self. And what about power production?
Probally the same power supply that the Steel Clan uses.
<Still, that's a lot of dead weight>
But alot less than a solid boulder.
<So we've got all of high school pretty much covered>
All we need is math. We got Gym, care of Fox's exercise time.
<Must not be scottish>
Actually, I am.
Meds just have very little effect on me. The only chem I have been able to get any response out of if Caffine, and only in large doses.
<Wired shut? As in, being fed by LM through a straw. Boy is YOUR sex life gonna suck>
I can only hope so! ;)
<<<90D>>: Huh?>
God. Maybe I mispelled it.
Although, that was in leet... how can one tell if something is actually mispelled or it was used to confuse.
<Yeah, but all that's needed are the file names. That part of the indexing takes almost no time (or shouldn't, on a decent computer).>
Yeah... but I still don't like indexing. I dunno why...
Maybe because it is orderly. And I don't really like order.
<Send me a 100 gig drive and some money for my time and I'll consider it ;-)>
Or a DLD holding the drive. ;)
<Uh...bad...>
But OH so FUN!
<Thought so. Brooklyn calls the girl back?! And explains WHAT exactly?>
Hey, Aiden, Tina and Avery's mother all liked the guys of the Garg type!
<See Goliath and Demona>
See Bazooka.
Run Goliath, RUN!
<Um, both have lots of scorch marks on them>
A few. At that distance, the beams should have cut right through them. If not, then the weapons suck.
<sounds like something Willow would use to get Tara to put out>
"Willow, I said NO!"
"You can't say no to ME!"
Hmm...
<When I was 7, my fantasy was to hijack a Toys 'R Us truck>
Now I dream of stealing a truck carrying computers.
<Hardly. Many genetically advanced humans are born without them. Like my mother>
Oh? So what does that say about me? I have 8 wisdom teeth! (Yes. 8. All four teeth have a companion tooth. It REALLY sucks!)
<Is rarer than a straight answer from Greg Weisman>
VERY true. I have seen some REALLY bad crap!
<For all my love of scenery, that's the hardest stuff for me to write>
I know! No matter how much of the good stuff I read, all the erotica I write is crap!
<Action comes kind of naturally, since I have a violent imagination>
I can see the action vividly, but describing it is a totally different matter.
<I'm gonna reach here and guess that LM doesn't know this yet>
Oh, she knows. But then again, I am not one of the drones.
<Dude, he couldn't be Bill & Ted at Battleship>
But he got better at it.
<Aren't these the same people that elected Luthor as president?>
Point. Ok... they arn't COMPLETE idiots.
At least, no worse then the people in this universe.
<Dude, that's not just a stereotype. Its a fact>
To quote Christine Morgan (edited):
"Two athletes in peak condition, performing to the best of their abilities ...oiled skin shining ..the slamming and flexing and knocking the shit out of each other ...what’s not to get hot over?"

But what about short, soft grey fur?

Niamhgold: <More so than normal?>
Oh yeah. People start to talk all... wierd. And kinda backwards.
<Amazingly, Midol works pretty darn well, and it's much less expensive>
Acedomedophin? Dosn't work at ALL on me.
<Suck it through your nose. I've seen Ripley's. You can do it ;)>
I don't know where my nose has been!
<she made a floor-length gown of condom packets and "stripped" as she handed them out to people>
Cool...
Were they ribbed for her pleasure? ;)

Skippy: <After a complete field analysis, the FBI determined that the white substance unknown to the players was the goal line>
And i thought evolution would have weeded out people like that.

Ravyn: <Woo hoo!!! Something for free!!! Hey, wait a sec ... would I get good drugs?>
DRUGS? You expect DRUGS?!?
Hmm... are home made ones ok?

Jan: <The $50 million wildlife museum opens in Springfield tomorrow. It's adjacent to the Bass Pro Shop>
After you catch something endangered in the museum, go to the shop and learn how to mount it.

SJ: <Tons of sharp, pointy things. For CHEAP prices>
OOH! What catalog?

Gside: <Such a shame>
For him! He was able to FEEL what the monster felt!
<I've been using Morpheus. I'd probably have all of Love Hina and Trigun by now if it weren't for the download limit. But what next? LBG? BGC? F3? Perhaps extend my current Kenshin.>
Well, I found out how easy it is to bounce packets off of AOL's servers, but I am still working on the other part.
<Not really. This is a quote from Ghastly, after all>
damn. And i am hungry too.
<Not a problem. I have another bonus there now>
Cool! Bonuses are good!
<unless the female was rather streachy>
Well, the rack can help in that respect.
Too bad one of my ex's didn't react too well to it. At least she wasn't in pain for too long.

Spike: <Thanks for recommending me as one of the fanfic authors to read out of the fanfic archives. I was very flattered, considering I haven't been free to write much these days>
Good writing is good writing, no matter how long it has been since a new story has been written.
Look at Merlin Missy's stuff. It has been YEARS since she wrote a thing and her stuff is STILL very good.
But that dosn't mean I wouldn't enjoy reading a new story by you!
Speaking of which, hows the wrist?
Fire Storm
Friday, November 2, 2001 08:11:01 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

DERN LOT BOYS!

That was me!
Fire Storm
Friday, November 2, 2001 05:44:51 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Terrky: <OK all, one more time... my name... it is Terrky. two R's one K>
Give it up. They will never get it right.
I am Fire Storm, not Firestorm. But people get it wrong all the time.
I stopped caring.
Thats what you should do.

Real post later
Anonymous
Friday, November 2, 2001 05:40:27 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

OK all, one more time... my name... it is Terrky. two R's one K.

but anyway... did anywone read those song lyrics? whatd ya think of em?

well, i gotta go now... GOTTA WERK TILL CLOSE AGAIN. bleh... at least i get money.

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Friday, November 2, 2001 04:48:08 PM
IP: a020-0739.kscy.splitrock.net

Terkky k- Nice pic choice, Brooklyn is mad cool also. Sophmore? kewl. im a senior.

Josh- The only other person that i have seen use Graeme is terkky k, and that was once PLUS no one i have seen since i came back has used him. i dont see the others.lol. ;) you still want that twix?

Warpmind- whats up?
NukesGoBoom
Friday, November 2, 2001 03:32:24 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

*Warpmind strolls in, whistling the theme from the Dirty Pair anime. Remarkably enough, he's not wearing glasses today.*
Hi, gang. My vision is reduced for a couple of days, as I'm getting new lenses for my glasses. Found out that with all factors in the equation, just leaving the frames at the optho... opthal... opthic... the dude who makes glasses until he could mail them to me. Should be just over the weekend, so... And now, I get those groovy glasses that change color in the light. }:)

Shadowrider: Dude, don't try to bluff me with that phoney EU currency. ;) But seriously, I doubt the Euro will have much of a lifespan... simply because with all else being equal, the separate European countries will probably remain pissy about their own currencies, thereby reducing the point of having a new common currency...

Robby: Morgenstern's... unabridged... is... a... hoax... *Blink* Excuse me for a moment. *Vanishes outside. For several minutes, a howlin' gale of laughter can be heard through the soundproofed walls.* In that case, I must say, that has got to be THE best scam I've had the honor of falling for. :) I think I want Goldman's autograph, just for that... *Thinks back* Come to think of it, I should have smelled a rat when the book stated that Stephen King had Florinese ancestry... *Snicker* Still, a genuine masterpiece of a hoax...

Josh: Incinerating a beaten foe is okay, but I got such a multitude of halitosis jokes out of it. ;)

*Sigh* An Evil debate, and I am not in it... I mean, even MOOCHIE has stated that I am Demonspawn. Gehenna has long, refined traditions of Evil, you know. We are quite capable of Evil, especially in a Victorian England kind of way. Just look at our old subordinate, Edward Hyde. };)

Mooncat: No, he's right... anyone CAN write smut. GOOD smut, however... };)

Mara: Whee! I wonder which of the two I shall frame and hang in the living room. };) (Note: at present, I am living with my parents...)

Wilek: Oh, right, you weren't there when Riff and Tesla got sloshed and had some psychotic moments with the turtle and shoe polish... and what they did to the nail file is best left to oblivion... And Cuddly Cthulhus, well... I think The Wizard's Attic may have some... otherwise, I may certainly be persuaded to provide one for you; the quasi-local gaming store should have a couple left, but they're kinda costly... Oh, and another thing... dude, whacha say we collaborate on planning your Halloween decorations for next year? I have some suitable designs I think you might appreciate, and the annoying thing is, Norway doesn't really have Halloween like you Americans do. :(

Gside: Regular fighting games aren't exactly my number one priority... Unless there is some MAJOR cutesy factors or such included (catgirls, morphing, etc.) I do not really care much for'em... Which pretty much means that, far as I know, the King of Fighters games, and the Street Fighter series (including Super Street Fighter II Turbo Special Edition With Extra Characters. And that is, to my knowledge, an accurate full title.)

Daphne: To be a hero, you need no special superpowers, or anything like that... Just look at such fellows as Batman and Green Arrow; normal humans, both of them. All it takes is a bit of heightened sense of justice, a dash of vengefulness, a touch of focus, let simmer for a few years, then sprinkle with a good costume. ;)

And I see there's a whole big honkin' debate on smut firing up, too... Really, writing good smut is... *Blinks* Nevermind; I would probably be wise to just shut up before I get into deep waters...

Well, that about finishes my post... Later, everyone. *Heads out with a Dominican Churchill-size cigar.*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, November 2, 2001 01:30:00 PM
IP: mp-217-239-42.daxnet.no

Ooo! Quickie comments..

Thanks Patrick for the unBirthday wishes *^_^* I reserve for you a virtual slice of my 1001 chocolate chip birthday cake, with the extra fudgy frosting.

Thanks also to Lady Mystic for the URL on fan fic chat boards.

If I missed anyone else on replies, very sorry!

*Mooncat is all wound up, Monsters Inc starts today! whee!*

And with any luck, sushi for supper tonight *^_^*

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Friday, November 2, 2001 01:14:32 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

On the topic of fertility,

Not all sperm are created equal. So the "spooge" factor isn't the only one involved with a higher success rate of fertilization. Some men produce better, more active sperm. So a female with more than a single choice of mate, has a higher chance of producing a child than one limited to one and only one mate.

As for multiple children, like Christine mentioned, sometimes a human female releases more than a single egg during the monthly ovulation. Sometimes a single egg will split/divide before being fertilized, creating a possible fraternal twin set where the egg genetic material is identical, but the sperm being different creates fraternal instead of identical twins.

Fraternal twins by different fathers aren't common, but not unheard of either. I was on a mailing list recently talking about a recent occurance.

So from a simple, biological stand point, a woman with two mates reaps as much benefit as a man with two mates.

Gside<< <<MC said:Two girls together can't generate a baby any more than two males, without some kind of artifice involved>> Gside said: No, but part of the fantasy is that get to join them. >> Well if we are getting into the realm of fantasy, than it's different strokes for different folks. As far as I know, fantasy alone doesn't get anyone pregnant.

ja ne
Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Friday, November 2, 2001 01:01:39 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

SJ > aww, go for it! Show us all how colossally easy it is. Make us slap our foreheads for doing it the hard way all this time. Writing a fanfic shouldn't get someone banned because of characters and actions; the only etty-quetty no-no is using someone else's characters without their permission.

Fraternal twins > what's required for fraternal twins at all is that the woman's ovaries happen to, for whatever reason (usually genetic) release more than one egg at the same time. Which means that it is quite possible for the twins to have different fathers. One school of thought recently has been arguing that among sperm, there are several different types each with a purpose, some to seek out the egg, others to fight and kill the enemy (i.e, from another male).

Whoops, time to dash and get Becca to school!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, November 2, 2001 11:58:47 AM
IP: 17-034.075.popsite.net

hey all! i chose this pic because it is relevent to my post.

has anyone heard "the pull" by chicago? you prolly have not. the album it was on was never realest... but it is a very good song... it is about time travle! i got chills when i actually sat down and listen to the lyrics! they have alot in common with the Timedancer stuff. i'll tpye em

THE PULL

summer time came too soon
summers in kansas often do
and the air was still i felt
the pull

i recall the heat riseing from the ground in a blase
and i knew i was the first to pass this way

i believe i steped across some line
or i stumbled through
the doorway to space and time
like a drunk who blacks out from the wine
never remembers his name

i always feel so alone
whenever i ever feel the pull
and the life a left behind
the pull

and incase a have no future
i've got a past
theres no telling just
how long this play will last

i believe i stped across some line
or i stumbled through the doorway to space and time
like the drunk who blacks out from the wine
never rememebrs his name

(bridge)

i'm down
walkin through a storm
i hear a voice inside
crying it calls my name
like a judge acousing
black robe hangin down
oh, don't forget, be brave about your love

and some other werds i can't remember

but there you have it... go download it... it would be great fer a theme song type thingy... its got the right tone and sound. too bad it was never realest.

but anyway, i'm back in school again...

i'll do some replies:

joah i think it was <Welcome to college.> i'm not in college.. imma sophomore in high school

Gside:<You post redish, he goes tanish. You can share the picture> i like that. i may use this one... i'm not sure yet...

OK that's it fer replies!!! lol

hmm... lessee... i woke up in a real bad mood today. but i got over it

NEXT SUBJECT!!!

got my class ring the other day. they didn't screw it up... i'm happy

i really should be doing homewerk right now... but i jsut aint in the mood. i got alot to catch up on, seeing as i was gone fer three days... even though it was a school trip... i din get much of a chance to do any. but i'll get it cought up... i always do.

i'm hungry.. can't wait till lunch... i can't wait to eat CHEESE!!! cheese is good... almost better than coffee.

wow, i just keep talkin about random stuff. stuff is good. random can be cool too

hmm... well, theres nothing to do if imma not doing my homewerk... maybe i should go do it... NAH, that'd be too easy. i like to challenge myself... or maybe imma jsut lazy. i dunno. i could use some input fer the hell of it.

*looks over at the teacher* BWHAHAHA!!! she suspects NOTHING!!! oh crap. she jsut looked at me. ok, she looked away. good.

hey all, another good song to download would be "Tell Me" by terry kath really, but he was with chicago, so you could prolly find it under thier name... but the song is great for the American spirit. they sing god bless america alot.

i live in kansas by the way, and let me tell you... the summers some way too SLOW!!! thats the only flaw in "the pull" lmao

eh, but anyway... better go do stuff now!!! see yall later. i dun really wanna go, but it's the intense fear of getting caught... AGAIN!! bye all, lol

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Friday, November 2, 2001 11:56:51 AM
IP: ns.usd230.k12.ks.us

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Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Friday, November 2, 2001 11:33:56 AM
IP: ns.usd230.k12.ks.us

Howdy! And a happy Dias de los Muertos to the room! (That's 'Day of the Dead', a holiday of remembrance in Mexico and quite a lot of the Southwest.) Rumors to the contrary, I haven't been dead -- just insanely busy. I'm in the process of putting 'Spirits of the Archangel' to bed for Visionary Games (www.visionarygames.com) and just taking a break while I'm working on the cover today. Then I'm taking a looooooooong break from drawing anything with feathered wings...

Anime news>> Vampire Hunter D has hit the big screens in Dallas. If I can ever figure out where the Regent Highland Park 4 is, I'm tempted to go see it.

Torch run new>> I survived my first press conference a couple of weeks ago. It was quite a crowd with 80-90 runners and members of their families crammed in a ballroom with the local press. I did learn that the Olympic torch will be passing through D/FW on Wednesday, Dec. 12th, coming up I-35 from Austin and then along I-30 on its way through the metroplex. I've yet to learn the exact time and place where I'll be doing my leg of the run. *laughs* I just hope it's not in the wee hours of the morning.

Firestorm>> Thanks for recommending me as one of the fanfic authors to read out of the fanfic archives. I was very flattered, considering I haven't been free to write much these days. And a belated happy birthday to Lady Mystic too!

And now, back to detailing all these bleeping feathers....
Spike - [<==<< Olympic torch route]
Friday, November 2, 2001 09:49:04 AM
IP: adsl-208-190-39-101.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

Hola everyone! Damnit, it's already Friday...this week has litterally flashed away! Well, I have just a few minutes, so on to a few replies!

Jan:> <> Yes, I suspect it applies to me too. I like talking about Gargs, but I am not ready to talk ONLY about it...there are so many other inteteresting things in the world...

Josh:> Interesting...I didn't remember that supports detail. Well, so my objection about asymmetrical load is discarded. Anyway, I am still very doubtful about a building with such a small base surface as it appeared in the series to support a castle with all its foundations, especially if you consider aerodynamic effects...

SJ:> << Then the next week, the flames began. >> Actually, a ten days passed before that...;)

Thanks to Fleur and Wilek for welcoming me back!

Doug:> I hope you'll read this...I sent you an email some time ago (about a month...) but I suspect you didn't receive that, since I sent it to your old email address and you mentioned it was no more active. If you read it, could you please contact me via email? I'd reallly like to get news of you and Kit. See you soon, I hope!

Niamhgold:> <<email>> Well, actually I too was supposed to send you some...:(...I will try this weekend, I am supposed to have a little more breath than usual...
<<...certain female characters in certain comic book universes could never exist.>> <laughs> You are really right...although, I cannot say I don't appreciate that particular style of picturing female bodies (alright, I am a pig, I know...). Anyway, I often wondered how some comic characters (read, for example, Rogue from the X-men) can run without falling on their face after three steps...
<<They know how to do it right.>> But all they do is for their own interest...
I will try to contact you via AIM this weekend. C U!

Time expired! See everyone!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Friday, November 2, 2001 09:23:24 AM
IP: h255-20-96.mi2.albacom.net

Siryn> Thanks! heh, I found some flights from St. Louis to Norfolk for $218!! =)

The New York Post reports:
Bill Clinton has reportedly said he is better trained to handle America's terrorism crisis than President Bush.
Heather Mills, the blond fiancée of Paul McCartney, said the former president made the revelation to her recently when she asked if he still wanted to be in the White House.

"I said to Clinton, ‘Do you wish you were president now?' and he said, ‘I feel I would be better trained for it, more prepared,' " Mills said.

Uhhhh yeah... riiiight. What, they teach this in Draft-Dodging 101?

Also, Rosie O'Donnel has changed her mind about President Bush. She now says that she loves the man. I'm sure GW sleeps better at night because of this.

SJ> I agree that it would have been better if they could have been more specific. *nodnodnod* The warnings that the government have been giving are just way too general to be of any effect. I'm afraid that they are going to end up crying wolf too many times.

There was enough Anthrax in the letter sent to Daschle (sp?) to kill 2 million people.

I've heard that after Afghanistan, Iraq is next.

Time to go harass the inmates and the officers....

Jan
Friday, November 2, 2001 07:42:11 AM
IP: modem18-99.mo-net.com

Walks in, carrying a small white book-looking thing. Sits down on the couch and opens the book, revealing a laptop with a glowing white Apple logo.

Yes, folks, this is an iBook. Who's ibook? MyBook!

This laptop ROCKS! Its small, light, and powerful. Its the ultimate secondary machine. I love it. And now I have something to take with me wherever I go. Like, say...GATHERING 2002. Now all I need a is an airport network and its all set. Anyone else want to bring a mac?

It needs more RAM, so I ordered it. In a few days, I'll be chugging along with 384 megs...sweet!

Apparently several terrorist threats were made today against Bay Area bridges. Just what we need: traffic getting worse.

Woohoo! Gathering is set! Now all I need is a plane ticket and a hotel room. Hey Siryn, can you tell us where we're staying?

Hmmm, I can't get "IMZADI" for a license plate, but I can get "IMZ4DI" or "1MZ4D1". Think I should do it? Only costs $20/yr...I think I'd rather have a website. Maybe when I get rich.

replies

Jan: <<Miss Cleo: she's being fined in NY for violating the no-call law - she already paid a huge fine for violating the same thing in Missouri. She's also being sued because the transcript that she uses on her commericals are the same exact script from another pyschic. She's also being sued for fraud>>: I hope she rots in HELL! <<Seems as if the tides have turned on Berkley>>: Someone please let me out of this city. <<

Kathy: <<Will the next Slayer be hot>>: It doesn't matter. Killing Faith is unaceptable.

Skippy: <<Just a sleveless jumpsuit, nothing to get excited about>>: Skin = good. <<episode where Q's son shows up>>: Curses, missed that one too. <<making Seven's suit dissapear>>: Damn S&P. <>: I'm like that too. I just remember things.

Terrky K: <>: I am so jealous. <<i'm suppost to be working>>: Welcome to college. <<they should really take it into concideration, rather than pretending it didn't happen>>: You can't leave something like that out of the story AND still pretend it happened. If it happened in the garg universe, it'd have MASSIVE rammifications for our heroes. So you aren't really offering the staff an options. <>: News flash: we don't talk about TGS very much in here. <<bar chords= evil, but good... if that makes sense>>: It makes sense to me. <<

Smut Pandering Bitch Queen of All Creation: <<very busty in a French Maid's outfit>>: That should be illegal. It even gives young guys like me heart attacks ;-)

The Wizard: <<the first weekend where I have a very small amount of academic obligation>>: I wish I were you. Or at least a student at your school. <>: I didn't. <<a wonderfully promising winter break>>: Sounds like fun. <<Who can diss the complete anti-thesis to Valentine's Day>>: I don't think its the anti-thesis of Valentine's Day. <<at least it's been final carved in stone>>: Now all I have to do is figure out if I can go. <<That time of the month?>>: oddly enough, midterms were at the EXACT same time last month! <<maybe your friend has special Halloween-provoked telekinetic attributes>>: I'd rather they be West-Coast provoked telekinetic attributes. <<hopefully not because it's being detained by my aunt...she's slightly more pro-PC than myself and may harm the thing>>: Its intact. <<Yet another reason for me to adopt your religion>>: There are strict rules for joining my religion. <<Guess I know where that ranks the streakers>>: So does that mean I can call the ugly girls who streak "cows"? <<Not funny>>: Bah, you have no sense of humor. You should see me drive. <<Going to stuff some male in your box>>: I'm not going to redirect this comment. <<weren't there in the Gathering Pt 1?>>: I didn't see any. <>: You are pretty logical as females go. <<Although the best Disney villian in a movie, period, is Malificent>>: Bah, Jeremy Irons voiced Scar! <<Never, in my apartment>>: Yeah but can-opener girl would get to it first. <<Considering the percentage of men who drop their current partner for someone more buxom, it shouldn't>>: Well that's not a steady relationship then, is it? And very few men are stupid enough to leave a girl for the sole reason of upgrade to larger breasts. <<Because if you all turned against each other, the country would be destroyed>>: Pretty much, yeah. <<the female produces _two_ eggs in one monthly cycle>>: Ah, I see. My bad, been a while since I took bio. <<Only when I need to overthrow _you_>>: Hmmm... <<Depends>>: On? <<Midol works pretty darn well, and it's much less expensive>>: Isn't that for periods? <<Ask my *other* roommate>>: LOL! <<"stripped" as she handed them out to people>>: Sweet! <<Unless your purity score is higher than mine>>: I wasn't aware that was possible. <<reasons which are eerily similar to the reasons why certain female characters in certain comic book universes could never exist.>>: Yeah, but its easier to fantasize about impossibly proportioned women than castles atop towers.

Nukes: <<its kinda my trade mark>>: Yeah, yours and many others'.

Nothri: <<November is about as fall as you can get>>: Dude, fall doesn't end until December.

Fleur: <<I'm screwed. Really>>: And it doesn't like you mean the good way. <<I'm 21 now, I'm supposed to have stopped sucking money out of them by now>>: In LA we wait till 24. <>: Don't worry, you'll make it work.

Ravyn: <<that might be scary>>: The world would tremble in fear. <<You won't believe how many times I said that yesterday>>: I'd believe it. <<She Bangs>>: I bet she does.

DPH: <>: Who's offering? <<Don't you just love working out schedules for your classes>>: This semester it was surprisingly easy. Of course, as an upper division civil engineering major, my classes aren't crowded. Not like my roommate, who can't get into ANY of his classes (EECS). <<It was so fun trying to figure out what some of the administrators were thinking when they put certain classes at certain times>>: Berkeley sent out an email to the profs to stop asking for 2-430 MW classes (we normally have 3 hours of lecture a week for a class, and the profs don't like to lecture on Friday).

Sevarius Jr: <<Thanks for ruining my second favorite holiday, you asses>>: I'm assuming your b-day is your first. <<it just keeps getting funnier every single time I hear it>>: I don't think its any easier than anything else to write...but its certainly not impressive either. <<So by the time I got off my ass and finished the damn thing, the joke would be too old>>: No, because Pissy would still be ticked at Mme. Destine. <<because of certain characters in it, and the actions they performed>>: I really don't think Demona likes it there OR there. But I also don't think that'd get you banned. Hell, I wrote it, and I got offered a spot on TGS for my troubles. Of course, there was lots of other non-erotic stuff around it, but that's hardly important. <>: LOL! ::looks at Mooncat's new post:: Okay dude, you take this one.

Gside: <<And one must be in response to a Screaming Orgasm>>: The "lying in bed smoking". <<unless the female was rather streachy>>: I can't quite explain the face I'm making right now. Lets say its a mix of surprise and disgust. <<What if it's a mousegirl?>>: I prefer girls furless. <<It doesn't take much to make something desireable to me>>: no shock there. <<You sure? I'm actually rather comfortable>>: Perhaps, but you lack those comfy pillow thingies. <<Very good, Fnanp>>: Who? <>: You don't. Posting does. <<Or just made tennis rackets for a hobby?>>: Violins. <<you do have a shorter recovery time>>: That is a general statement, and far from true for all females. <>: I just want to be sucked. ;-)

::yawn:: tired

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.
-Robert A. Heinlein

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, November 2, 2001 05:11:25 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-206.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Lady Mystic> <>: My infection is spreading.

Brooklyn> <<This sight is supposed to be dedicated to Greg's Master Plan>>: More specifically, what was known of it when they started. It's too late to change many things they already wrote, so they're running with them.

Wilek> <<Cyber City Oedo?>>: I'm starting to suspect it might be Utena.
<>: And one must be in response to a Screaming Orgasm.
<<How does one go about this? Step by step?>>: First, play long enough to get a high level character, then go around killing high level monsters, when you find something good, put it on ebay and arrange an online meeting with the buyer.
<<Freaks like me do>>: That's Chyna, not Chiana.
<<Penn & Teller's version, on the other hand...I shall never forget the finale>>: Tablesaw?
<<Wouldn't it be all rotten and moldy?>>: The sharpness is directly proportional to the amount of time it was cheddared.
<<what is this nested bizarre?>>: A reference to a reference of something bizzare, if I recall my thought processes.
<<So why the sexual significance?>>: It's something that draws attention and is mostly found on females. The sexual significance developed from the time spent watching them.
<<Just the human psyche's habit of unfairly associating everything with sex?>>: That too.
<<any truth to the rumour that Ganondorf will be in attendance>>: I think I've seen screenshots of him.
<<I'd send you my copy if I had a cable modem>>: Too late, already reacquired it.
<<am I to understand that you want a gender-reversed version of me>>: No, just reverse my gender. You don't even need to make another copy of me.
<<Eh?... Eh, part II?>>: Lines from Moxy Früvous's King of Spain.
<<Violent Spinning Amazon Breasts Of Death Attack!>>: Reminds me of GoS^2 number 4. Granted, they were old ugly ninjas, and it doesnt sound like an actual Joketsuzoku technique, but the idea is still the same.
Yooper> <<At Michigan Tech, the statics course that the civils take is run by the ME department>>: At Rutgers, the statics course everyone has to take is officially general engineering, but it might as well be MechE.

Mooncat> <<2 men is a better chance of fertilizing a female than one alone>>: Just from volume of spooge. There's no increased chance of multiple children.
<<A woman can also carry fraternal twins by different fathers>>: The chances of which are quite small. Expecially since the first male would have a time advantage, unless the female was rather streachy.
<<Two girls together can't generate a baby any more than two males, without some kind of artifice involved>>: No, but part of the fantasy is that get to join them.

Fire Storm> <<Now he may never be able to control the tentacle monsters>>: Such a shame. (sarcasm)
<>: I've been using Morpheus. I'd probably have all of Love Hina and Trigun by now if it weren't for the download limit. But what next? LBG? BGC? F3? Perhaps extend my current Kenshin.
<<Heartbreaker is the same as heartEATER, right?>>: Not really. This is a quote from Ghastly, after all.
<<It's cool! Thanks!>>: Not a problem. I have another bonus there now.
<<why the frell did they name that Codec after that POS system from Circuit City?>>: Not sure. Confused me for a bit.

Imzadi> <>: What if it's a mousegirl?
<<I'd imagine a female version of you would be pretty desireable to Gside>>: It doesn't take much to make something desireable to me.
<<No thanks>>: You sure? I'm actually rather comfortable.
<<Including sh*t>>: That's nothing new.
<>: Very good, Fnanp.
<<Seems like only I go to bed after Gside>>: I have so much fun keeping you up.
<<No, Gside, not the sexylosers kind>>: Aww.
<<Turns out EVERYONE is up after Gside>>: Heh, heh, heh. Only because I've been keeping them... busy.

Niamhgold> <<He needs the female version of Wilek, then he'll be up all night>>: You know it.
<<my roomie knitted intestines>>: Pre med? Or just made tennis rackets for a hobby?
<<Not from this perspective>>: Yes, you do have a shorter recovery time, but I'm talking about the biological basis for the desire.

NukesGoBoom> <<try to find another one, please>>: You post redish, he goes tanish. You can share the picture.

Fleur> <<I'm 21 now, I'm supposed to have stopped sucking money out of them by now>>: I plan on sucking for as long as I can.

I haven't done anything Japanese in a bit, so you now get something in French. Au Palais de Verre by Nobuo Uematsu from Final Fantasy I.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, November 2, 2001 01:56:31 AM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

*chibi Mooncat toddles in with her nice, shiny new crown*

PURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

Guess who just got dubbed King of Gargoyle Porn? Yes, I actually entered a fan fic contest for the title. *^_^*

Kewl Beans!!!

If anyone is interested, you can read the Gargoyles fan fic that was my entry on the GFW fan fic archive.

http://fanfic.gargoyles-fans.org/

Just check under Mooncat in the author's listings.

The name of my fic entry was "The Eros of Her Ways" and is the first part of the Immortal Blood Saga.

*still purring >^,,^<*

SJ <<I've actually thought of writing an erotica fic before, just to show how COLOSSALLY easy it is. I even went so far as to make a synopsis / outline for it. But I scrapped the idea, for 2 basic reasons>>

Awww... if it were *colossally* easy, merely being lazy shouldn't count as a reason *^_^* -- as for getting you banned, who would ban you? from what? Go ahead and write the fic. Now you've got my curiousity up.

Right now I have a standing offer for anyone wanting to be part of the royal harem. Write (and post to the GFW) a bondage related Gargoyles fic, by Dec. 25, and become an offical member of the Harem of Gargoyle Porn. All are welcome! Perks include lounging on virtual silk cushions, and being fed peeled grapes by the cyber palace slaves.

It's good to be king *^_^*

*mooncat takes a leap and lands amidst the silky pillows, bouncing and hugging her crown*

wheeee!!!!

>^,,^<
Mooncat
Friday, November 2, 2001 01:11:05 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Well, it's official.

The Diamondbacks are throwing the World Series. They're taking a dive for the people of NYC, so that they can have a championship to bring them joy in their time of need. I commend you, Arizona Diamondbacks, you are true American heroes.

As for you Yankees, SHAME on you. You're letting them lose to you on purpose, thus defeating the spirit of competition. You have no dignity or shame. I don't see how you sleep at night. Blecch, you disgust me.
Sevarius Jr.
Friday, November 2, 2001 12:54:21 AM
IP: 66-44-89-229.s610.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

hey all. well, not a lot goin on... i'm not very hyper... in fact, i'm rather sleepy. i had to werk till close today, and i got close tomorrow, and 11am to 2 pm saturday, and 5-9pm sunday, and 5-close monday and tuesday. i am tired!! bleh... maybe i shoudl go to bed... NAH, thats too easy. sleep is fer wusses... *yawns* *falls alseep* *wakes up* gaaaaah, i mean sleep is good!!! i just.............need..............some...........................................COFFEE!!!!!! *falls over and falls asleep*

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Friday, November 2, 2001 12:04:50 AM
IP: a020-0600.kscy.splitrock.net

Last night sucked. No one wanted to go and do anything! Can't enjoy Halloween because everyone I know is scared of terrorist attacks. Thanks for ruining my second favorite holiday, you asses.

Holding a familiar can of worms very tightly, but not yet opening.

Patrick: <<"Anyone can write smut" - Yeah... what Mooncat said... put your cards on the table. I wish I had a dime for every time I've heard that... as if writing erotica is any less difficult than writing any other type of fiction. Heck... sometimes it's harder.>>

I feel so much like Beetlejuice. To paraphrase him, I've heard that argument a thousand times before, and it just keeps getting funnier every single time I hear it.

I've actually thought of writing an erotica fic before, just to show how COLOSSALLY easy it is. I even went so far as to make a synopsis / outline for it. But I scrapped the idea, for 2 basic reasons:

1.) I'm a lazy bastard. I've been in this fandom for something like 3 years, and have barely written anything. So by the time I got off my ass and finished the damn thing, the joke would be too old. And,
2.) The fic would get me banned, because of certain characters in it, and the actions they performed.

Tim: <<Talk about your hidden miracles. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the show get back on the air with him as a producer, just not as the primary creative force behind the series.>> I was SHOCKED when I read this, because it's maybe one of the ballsiest things I think anyone has ever posted in this CR. There are people in this room who would read that post and disagree with it, but respect where you were coming from, and then there are people in this room to whom those words would be absolute anathema. I commend your bravery, my good man.
For all of those who don't know me well, then let me just say that I agree with Tim. It's fun to destroy demagoguery.

Ravyn: <<Damn Yankees.>> Last night made me SICK. Morons! If you have Schilling doing a good job against the Yankees, what do you do? You keep him IN there. But they took him out, and boom, Yankees win. I'm getting disgusted by all of this, and I don't even like baseball in the least. I just HATE the Yankees.
AND they could have won it easy again! What did they do? The last inning, they put the goddamn Asian in there! DONKEY DICK! He's the one who threw the home run pitch last night!
I'm fast approaching the point where, if the Diamondbacks lose, I'm going to hate them more than the Yankees, because they just had the chance and blew it.

NukesGoBoom: <<Yeah, i went with my friend who went as Osama Bin Laden. oh, the stories i could tell. We showd up to this cops house (we didnt know he lived there) and he said that we should go back home before trouble started. we didnt. we kept going till some guy stepped out of his house and told us to "GET THE @#$@#$ OFF MY PROPERTY YOU MISERABLE BASTARDS" so we did. that was the highlight of the night, most people were just disgusted with us, but thta one guy was hilarious.>> You know what would have been really hilarious? If that one guy had beaten your friend senseless for wearing that costume. I know I'd be rolling on the floor over that one.

Jannie: <<I know that the warnings are sounding lame and inadequate, but what would happen if the government had heard about *something* happening but they don't any more than that and they said nothing... and then it happened. The public would go apeshit. It's better to let the public know as much as they can.>> My point was that they didn't tell us ANYTHING. Just, "Over the next few days, your ass is grass." <<At least everyone has been told to be on alert.>> Which just lead to rampant - and paranoid - speculation, because they didn't tell us anything specific. I'm not a fan of the governor of CA, but he put out a press release saying that between Nov. 2 and 7, there is a warning that there will be a terrorist attack against some of the major bridges in the state. See, now THAT is a specific explanation as to what might be going on. If we had gotten something like that from Ashcroft, I think that'd be more helpful. <<It's frustrating, yes... but a necessary and informed frustration.>> I have a LOT of frustration right now. I could go on a big rant here. Frankly, I think the way we've handled things so far has STUNK. We have families that have not received one dime of aid from the Red Cross, but we're dropping supplies and giving money to the Afghan refugees like crazy. I could go off on this stuff all night.

Wilek: Hey! You proved me wrong, you DID post within a week of me calling out your name! <<Has anyone else had the grave misfortune of holding that piece of schiesse X-Box controller? I did last week at the mall. That is hands down the worst controller that any console has ever had and probably will ever have. Both it's competitors' controllers are so much more comfortable. Trying to reach all the buttons actually HURT my hand. I want the X-Box GONE. NOW.>> My guess is that you'll only have to wait maybe a year, and it'll be gone all by itself. <<True. I'm thinking, the shadow worked some illusory effect on the psyche's perceptions. Must have been quite powerful...>> You know what I loved about Fight Club? The little things. Like how Tyler kept popping up on screen one frame at a time BEFORE he was every introduced in the movie. <<OK, I just got my first (and hopefully last) ever bit of e-mail spam advertisement for a porn site.>> You think that's bad? Try getting porn advertisements in the MAIL. How the hell they tracked me down….er, I mean, how they got my address in the first place…I'll never know. But it makes it difficult to look at the mail carrier's face every day. Oh wait - I don't deal with that rabble anyway…<<You're Baptist?>> Now even I'm shocked by this. <> How is this possible? Unless their queen reproduces asexually? <<Wonder what you lot think MY children would be like.>> If I'm ever foolish enough to breed, I'm never letting my children near your children, in the fear that they would band together to overthrow us. Because you know they would! <<Freaks like me do (as far as I can consider anyone 'hot')>> I had a friend tell me the other day that Chyna was going to be in Playboy again. I told him, why pay for it when I'm sure he could find a few free tranny sites somewhere on the web. <<What do you want?>> [Vosh voice] Never ask that question! <<Understanding dawns...>> As I said, I am king of useless wrestling trivia. Perhaps sometime I will explain to you the Honky Tonk Man's refusal to drop the Intercontinental Title, leading to the first world championship title for "Macho Man" Randy Savage. Oh, it's just fascinating. <<Wonder if the Horde will be next>> My bank account is looking anemic. Damn Todd McFarlane! Between his latest Movie Maniacs series, as well as the Clive Barker line, I'm dropping cash left and right! <<I've heard that one of Lexx's later seasons took a significant turn for the better from its softcore porn roots?>> You either like Lexx or you don't. I'm not that big of a fan. I liked the original films. The next season didn't impress me, but then the season after that wasn't that bad, since it had more of a storyline. My recommendation: if you can get in on the show at the ground floor, okay, if not, stick with Farscape. <<Hm, I've always wondered what their appeal is...never been much into them.>> o.O My God! Someone who doesn't get the appeal of the Stooges? That is a tragedy. <> Okay, here we go…The character known as Bastion was initially two entities: Master Mold, which was the prime Sentinel (the "brain" of the sentinels; think of him as the central computer, with the other Sentinels as drones), and Nimrod, which was a future Sentinel sent back in time to capture Rachel Summers, Cyclops / Jean Grey's daughter (he was to send her back to the future). Too make a long story short, at one point Nimrod and Master Mold fused together as one being, but Nimrod fought the process. The X-Men convinced the Mold / Nimrod entity to go through the Siege Perilous, a dimension portal through which a person could go, to be judged. If found worthy, that individual would be reborn upon earth. Mold / Nimrod were reborn as Bastion. Bastion looked like a middle-aged man (and, initially, appeared to believe that he was human), and created Operation: Zero Tolerance (thanks to his programming to "protect" humans by destroying mutants), an operation meant to wipe out mutantkind. He ran roughshod over the X-Men for a little while (basically, as long as the x-over event lasted), but in the end he was captured by S.H.I.E.L.D. From there, it was revealed who he really was, and then followed a series of incidents far too complicated to get into here. Nowadays, Bastion isn't Bastion, but a Phalanx-corrupted techno-organic entity known as Template. He "appears" to be dead currently, but of course, no body was found, and even if they had one, that still wouldn't mean he was deceased. Just consider him inactive up until they resurrect the character again. <> Nope. He started off as a very human scientist in Victorian England, named Nathaniel Essex. He was a brilliant man, and far beyond his time, as he predicted the eventual mutation of mankind. He set about creating this evolution through scientific means, but he was a bit too much of a mad scientist, and thus was rejected by the Royal Society and his family. This led him to Apocalypse, who "augmented" him (if you're familiar with Apox, you know that augmentation means mutation, hence the silver complexion). Further mutation occurred thanks to Sinister's experiments on himself (in a recent story, it was told that Sinister received total control over his molecular structure thanks to a time-traveling Gambit). Sinister is obsessed with genetics, and basically is the X-Men equivalent of Dr. Sevarius (which is probably why I like the character so much). Everyone's a test subject to him. <<What if they've spent the last ten years in an insane asylum and are now
oracular serial killers?>> Hmm….tempting, but they'd still probably always turn into some sort of water form. That's unforgiveable. << If you are reading this: Previews……Ooh. Must take a closer look...>> I got, of all things, a knife magazine in the mail this week, that I know you'd love. Tons of sharp, pointy things. For CHEAP prices. Maybe it means the merchandise is crap, but just the thought of buying a Ringwraith sword, from LOTR (at a impressive length of 54 ½ ") for just $200 bucks is tempting. And that's one of the most expensive items. I'm talking Japanese shuriken for 10 bucks. TWO CTHD Chinese hook swords for 50 clams. Katanas as cheap as 40 smackers. God, it's so tempting. I need to stock up my private arsenal. But who am I kidding? I'd probably chop my house to pieces with them. But God, I'd have fun doing it.

Lonny: Hey! One of the few people who has left the CR whom I welcome back with open arms! Too bad you're dead. Maybe Robby could channel you every now and then.

DPH: Ever read the summary for the Maijin Buu saga? It actually gave me a brain aneurysm. For a show that's primarily just known for it's fighting, the plotlines are ridiculously complicated.

Skippy: <<Pregnat males and wrist nipples just shot this episode right past Spock's Brain and the Voyager's Wrestling Episode as worst Trek moment...yet...>> What, the Rock as an alien shootfighter didn't do it for you? ;) <<In the episode where Q's son shows up>> I'm trying very hard to forget what they did to Q on Voyager.

Mooncat: <<Humans have wiped out all but a teeny tiny population of gargoyles.>> Whoo!!! Crooklyn! Top of the food chain!

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Friday, November 2, 2001 12:00:30 AM
IP: 66-44-89-229.s610.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Jan> I believe the nearest airport is Norfolk International Airport.:)

Siryn - [siryn7@aol.com]
Thursday, November 1, 2001 11:34:48 PM
IP: roc-24-93-24-2.rochester.rr.com

DPH> thanks! it's been driving me bonkers trying to remember that trucking company's name! O_O

I don't let all the talk of "the economy" effect me much. I spend when I have the money and I cut back when I don't. *shrugs*

I heard on the news that the town of Berkley is now being "boycotted". They received over 900 emails in one day protesting and trashing them for their stand against the war. Seems as if the tides have turned on Berkley.

Our "terrorist" is also a proud member of the KKK. heh, I've never met one in person before.... hope to never do that again. This guy is a real fruitloop! He's moved into the area as a recruiter.

Heh, I have found my minature Gargoyle figurines and have placed them back on top of my monitor. It's starting to feel like "home" around here :)

The $50 million wildlife museum opens in Springfield tomorrow. It's adjacent to the Bass Pro Shop. I would love to visit but the first room that you enter is a Bird room.... no way around it. I won't be going.

Gathering 2002: I checked with expedia.com and they don't list an airport there. Does anyone know the nearest airport?

Finally tomorrow is Friday! It's been a long and tiring week.
Jan
Thursday, November 1, 2001 11:08:44 PM
IP: modem19-188.mo-net.com

I was referring to TGS Timedancer.
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, November 1, 2001 11:02:10 PM
IP: max1-2.cwy.cei.net

Nukes> I believe DPH is referring to the TGS Timedancer, not a TV version. Although that would be nice ... ;)
Ravyn
Thursday, November 1, 2001 09:55:27 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

DPH- WTF! TIME DANCER IS PREMIERING? WHAT THE HELL? ARE YOU SERIOUS! ON TV? WHEN! WHAT CHANNEL! i dont know if your serious , joking, or talking about something else BUT IM NOT TAKING THE CHANCE :)
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Thursday, November 1, 2001 09:52:25 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

Daphne - no, you're not a major player in the illogic of the CR. But the presence of all former BFTS RPers might be a factor. Too bad, Winterwolf didn't post yesterday.

**Babylon 5 spoilers**
I say the B5 episode and it did remind of a certain ST:DS9 episode. One quick question, was that virus natural or did some sinister race (the Shadows?) create it?
**END Babylon 5 spoilers**

Oh well, I'll have to wait until next time to see if Greg Weisman answers some of my questions.

Skippy - Hehehehe. I can't help but laugh at that story. Of course, that might be the excuse it takes to get the colors of boundaries changed to periwinkle.

Timedancer will premiere when Timedancer premieres. I am concerned about having to make some deals to get the end of the world postponed until Timedancer premieres.

Jan - that trucking company based in Arkansas was J B Hunt. It took me a while to remember the name.

In another attempt to help slow down the economy, it was announced that the GNP was down. Don't they know that severe economic downturns help lead to war?

Imzadi - Don't you just love working out schedules for your classes? It was so fun trying to figure out what some of the administrators were thinking when they put certain classes at certain times.

**DPH thinks for a second and then says, "I probably could make a portal to let things out of HFIL. If the CR lawyer offered me something in return, . . On the other hand, letting things out of HFIL would make some people angry at me."**

DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, November 1, 2001 09:42:36 PM
IP: max1-36.cwy.cei.net

Damn Yankees. ;)

Josh> <<The only person I'd like to see with the Eye is ME!>> Wow, that might be scary ... ;) <<ARRRR!>> ARRR!!! You won't believe how many times I said that yesterday ... ;) <<Conclusion: 90% of girls with taste in music hang out in this CR>> Well ... you have to figure in that it's on my mp3 playlist, right in between Travis Tritt's "A Great Day to be Alive" and Ricky Martin's "She Bangs" ... ;) <<Beat her. Beat her now.>> ;-)

FS> <<And if you don't get them ripped out, I will do it for you when you come up here! No charge!>> Woo hoo!!! Something for free!!! Hey, wait a sec ... would I get good drugs? ;)

Daphne> <> Oh, isn't Schilling just *awesome?* I would love for him to get his World Series ring ... heaven knows he deserves it. ;)

Coyote> Heyas. :)
Ravyn
Thursday, November 1, 2001 07:15:13 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

*leans in*
oooo...Greg W. is anwsering "Ask Greg"'s right now...it's cool, everytime you hit "refresh" you have a new anwser to a question...I really like the response to the Gillecomgain one that just came up.

*out*
Lynati
Thursday, November 1, 2001 06:35:09 PM
IP: 2cust110.tnt2.kansas-city.mo.da.uu.net

*curls up in the nearest chair*

Well, my good mood lasted all of 24 hours...
I'm screwed. Really.
Remember me mentioning I've completed my major in Immunology? I changed my _other_ major to Pharmacology at the start of this year. In order to get into third year Pharmacology, I had to do second year physiology as a pre-recquisite. So, knowing I'd just added another year to my degree anyway, I thought I might as well just do all three available classes and have the best background for going into pharmacology. Which means I've done 11 second year subjects instead of the standard 8.
Still with me? Well, each class is worth 6 points. To get a degree, you have to do 144 points, 48 in each year level. In other words, eight 1st year, eight 2nd year, eight 3rd year.
At my exam on Wednesday, I found out about this rule that once you go over the 144 points, you have to start paying up front fees instead of going on HECS (Basically, an interest-free 'loan' that pays off your classes, until you're earning enough money, then it's taken out with your tax).
I went in yesterday to ask about this and got told: You have to pay up-front for the rest of your classes. The one's I'm doing for my major. That's nearly $5000 I've got to somehow just pull out of thin air.
What's worse, is that if I DON'T pay, I'm not going to be able to do the other four third year subjects, hence, I won't have the requisites to graduate.
I'm REALLY screwed.
I've got a meeting with the 'academic advisor' in about two hours, to try to figure out a way out of this mess. There's three possibilities - I transfer to something called 'Bachelor of Biotechnology', which means I can actually do three majors; She's extra nice, leaves a note on my file, and I get to do the classes on HECS, or I work out some sort of payment plan with her.
Otherwise, I'll have to hit my parents for a loan (something I DON'T want to do, as much as they say they won't mind - it would have to come out of my mother's inheritance, which is for HER, dammit, not me. Besides, I'm 21 now, I'm supposed to have stopped sucking money out of them by now.).
Or I don't get my degree.
*buries head in hands* You know, I was really enjoying my holiday. For the whole DAY it lasted.
I hate my university.
Okay, I'm either going to start crying or swearing, so I'd better go. If anybody's got a luck demon handy, make it spit in my direction, please.
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Thursday, November 1, 2001 06:22:38 PM
IP: proxy2.mel.pacific.net.au

###Dateline: Irving, Texas###

Dallas Cowboys football practice was delayed on Friday day for nearly two hours at Valley Ranch.

One of the players, while on his way to the locker room happened to look down and notice a suspicious looking, unknown white powdery substance on the practice field. Head coach Dave Campo immediately suspended practice while the FBI was called in to investigate.

After a complete field analysis, the FBI determined that the white substance unknown to the players was the goal line.

Practice was resumed when FBI Special Agents decided that the team would not likely encounter the substance again.

Skippy The Klingon
Thursday, November 1, 2001 06:14:21 PM
IP: ppp78.tele-base.net

hey all... ok, nukes, as one dedicated fan to another, if it will make you happy, i won't use that pic... but i haven't really seen any others i like... perhaps the TGS staff could at some time in the near or late future come up with another of the same character...? i won't use that particular pic... but i would like to use that peticular character.

but anyway, on to new things. my teacher caught me on here today. lol. i had to shut down my computer real fast before he saw where i actually was. that kinda sucked.

on a more personal note... i learned some new chords on my guitar. i know how to play lead on a peticular song, and now i've got the chords to it! there really really hard though! bar chords= evil, but good... if that makes sense...

ah, but anyway, i've got nothing to do till i gotta go to werk. bleh. i got close again tonight. werkin there isn't so bad, but damn. i been werkin till close alot. but i like it there nontheless.

i'm suprisingly in a very good mood today. *hugs everyone* i dunno why. but i am.

well... i guess i better go practice my guitar now. gotta be able to play them damn chords! lol bye everyone

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Thursday, November 1, 2001 05:13:53 PM
IP: a020-0785.kscy.splitrock.net

When are they coming out with the new season of timedancer? Is there a problem. I ask because it says due out in fall 2001...and November is about as fall as you can get.
nothri - [Nothri@aol.com]
Austin, tx, usa
Thursday, November 1, 2001 05:11:17 PM
IP: h00b0d0c9690c.swt.edu

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Anonymous
Thursday, November 1, 2001 05:05:28 PM
IP: a020-0785.kscy.splitrock.net

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Anonymous
Thursday, November 1, 2001 05:05:23 PM
IP: a020-0785.kscy.splitrock.net

Terkky k- Thanks for agreeing with me on the WTC issue. I like people who see it my way, and thanks for calling me a dedicated fan (well, i am one). OH BTW, your posting picture? Graeme is MINE. i know that no one really owns any picture but i have never posted without Graeme. try to find another one, please? its kinda my trade mark. thanks.

To all whom it may concern- Yeah, i went with my friend who went as Osama Bin Laden. oh, the stories i could tell. We showd up to this cops house (we didnt know he lived there) and he said that we should go back home before trouble started. we didnt. we kept going till some guy stepped out of his house and told us to "GET THE @#$@#$ OFF MY PROPERTY YOU MISERABLE BASTARDS" so we did. that was the highlight of the night, most people were just disgusted with us, but thta one guy was hilarious.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Thursday, November 1, 2001 04:47:45 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

I wuv Asrial. ^_^;;

Anyways, for anyone whose interested the 2002 Gathering of the Gargoyles will be..

Williamsburg, VA (Virginia) June 28th-30th

If anyone has comments questions, rants, or just a general Hey guys! Feel free to email the gathering staff at gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com

You can also personally email me if you wish at siryn7@aol.com

PLEASE feel free to email me..if you have concerns, or rants, or need help, my staff and I will try our best to help you with your gathering plans. If there is a problem guys, let me know about it, because 9 times out of 10, I don't know there's a problem..and if I don't know about it, I can't fix it. ^_^;;

Happy Belated Halloween!! ^_^
Siryn --2002 Convention Chair - [siryn7@aol.com]
Thursday, November 1, 2001 04:31:00 PM
IP: roc-24-93-24-2.rochester.rr.com

** Niamhgold enters **

Whee, a break in my schedule! And I even had time to do lunch with friends...things may be looking up for the weekend, the first weekend where I have a very small amount of academic obligation :) I hope everyone had a great Halloween. I'm actually celebrating it belatedly (I had too much to work on last night...and, unfortunately, it seems the local trick-or-treaters had done their candy harvesting the previous Friday). So, blargh to that.

Turned in my one minute animation and now it's time for an RPG interactive piece for my final. The next few weeks after the designs and storyboards are due are going to be murder ;) Then, a wonderfully promising winter break :)

On to replies!

Christine: <(some people want Thanksgiving, or New Year's, but me, I want my Halloween!> Amen! Who can diss the complete anti-thesis to Valentine's Day? ;) I love the holiday; the malicious, devious, evil...er, nevermind ;) <Had a gaggle of teenage girls at the door, one of whom was very busty and in a French maid's outfit> Wonder if that was my friend Amy. Our group consisted of a french maid, Gemini, "don't ask," brocolli, my roomie with a slit throat, a Harley Davidson nut, Ankur in fifties attire, and the first wives club. And at the party...we had "Censored," a really authentic Edward Scissorhands (with movable scissors!), condom-dress girl, and so forth. <the Bavarian-themed village that has way too many candy shoppes and bakeries.> There can never be too many candy shoppes... >;)

Welcome newcomers :)

Jan: <Thankfully the prediction of some type of terrorist attack happening by the end of the month didn't come true> An urban myth no longer. <Seems as if the Gathering date has been set for the last weekend in June> No pun intended: at least it's been final carved in stone ;)

Daddy: <Another emotional roller coaster of a day.> That time of the month? Two things on completely opposite ends of the spectrum. Must've been the double full moon--or maybe your friend has special Halloween-provoked telekinetic attributes. <Right now its in a warehouse in Sacramento> And hopefully not because it's being detained by my aunt...she's slightly more pro-PC than myself and may harm the thing ;) <it probably helps that i refuse to pull all-nighters, or even work past 11PM> Yet another reason for me to adopt your religion. <Yes. Sorry> Clothes separate us from the lesser beasts. Guess I know where that ranks the streakers... <Doesn't that preclude you being a good driver? ;-)> Not funny. <<>: Don't wanna know> Going to stuff some male in your box? ;) <But have you ever noticed that there are no elevator shafts in the arboretum> Wait...weren't there in the Gathering Pt 1? ROTFL <Yeah, and you can be female without be an illogical emotional chaos-master, but only the vulcans have figured out how> I suppose it's time to return to my home planet... <Scar, Lion King> Point. Although the best Disney villian in a movie, period, is Malificent. <All that whipped cream is going to waste...> Never, in my apartment. <Women who have a steady relationship and still get breast implants boggle me> Considering the percentage of men who drop their current partner for someone more buxom, it shouldn't. <Problem was: all smart people in my class were friends of mine> Because if you all turned against each other, the country would be destroyed ;) My rival in HS was Colin Foord...he one-upped me when he started microwaving goldfish. <Are you sure about that? I'm quite certain that once an egg becomes fertilized, it puts out a chemical that kills other sperm.> That implies a single egg. What happens in the fraternal situation is that the female produces _two_ eggs in one monthly cycle, as opposed to one which would later split. These two eggs can then be fertilized on two separate occasions, by two separate individuals. <Turns out EVERYONE is up after Gside.> He needs the female version of Wilek, then he'll be up all night. <Aren't these the same people that elected Luthor as president?> And I have a "Lex for President" button, too ;) <Think happy thoughts so I pass my midterm!> ** Happy thoughts! ** <You're gonna clone yourself? ::evil grin::> Only when I need to overthrow _you_ ;) Um... ** shuts mouth ** <Nope. Raph, Don, Leo, Mikey. In that order> Splinter, Leo, Don, Raph, Mikey. <I'm gonna get hurt> Depends.

FS: More so than normal? <Oh, I plan on it. The Tylenol-3 they gave me didn't work for CRAP!> Amazingly, Midol works pretty darn well, and it's much less expensive. <. My jaw is gonna be wired for a few WEEKS, possibly 3 months.> Suck it through your nose. I've seen Ripley's. You can do it ;) <Or species that don't have a set male and female?> How about prokaryotes?

Gside: <Strangle them with their intestines.> Hmmm...and my roomie knitted intestines... <but any extra men for a female are superfluous> Not from this perspective. Ask my *other* roommate. The Puritans are hell spawn.

Skippy: LOL. I'm sorry. But considering that costumes at our school ranged from Bin Laden, to condom-dress girl (yes, she made a floor-length gown of condom packets and "stripped" as she handed them out to people ;)), to Ann and Thrax, our group never had a chance ;)

Wilek: <and I'm still getting the stains off my ceiling> Ewww. <it'd be kind of cool for the clan to trip over my severed head while they're getting their coffee or something.> I am SO going to animate that...one day ;) <Frell, now I can't use my tanker truck full of whipped cream> You should *always* be able to use a truckload of whipped cream. Unless your purity score is higher than mine ;) <My genetic engineers are working on something...> Bwhahahahaha >:}

Shadowrider: Aggh, keep forgetting to put together that email! Curses :( Hope things are going well for you! <medieval castle on its top is going to feel a VERY big effect from winds even in normal days...not to mention a thunderstorm> Interesting when _that_ falls. That'll be _major_ street pizza ;) <but my opinion is that such a structure is not possible at the present day> And you list reasons which are eerily similar to the reasons why certain female characters in certain comic book universes could never exist. ;) <more probably eliminated by the Mafia> They know how to do it right.

All right, back to the grindstone. See you all later!
Adios :)
Niamhgold
Thursday, November 1, 2001 01:40:20 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

Gargoyle reproduction and being a thriving species --

In perfect, laboratory conditions, having three offspring for every two fertile adults might work. But Gargoyles if they lived in a "real" world, would have attrition.

There are the generations when there is NOT a perfectly even number of boys to girls. Even if the "left over" gargoyles of one hatching find a mate in a previous or younger hatching group, you miss out on at least one egg out of your three possible.

Natural disaster can deplete a population as well -- Gargoyles live on cliffs where they can have a nice high drop off point to glide, right? Those who live on sea cliffs would be subject to hurricanes and typhoons. Those in the mountains to storms and lightening, and even if it is a rare event that natural disaster takes a gargoyle, each one taken takes out the future eggs that gargoyle would have had with his/her mate. Gargoyles don't have much of a margin for depreciation of their numbers, if at all.

Drought, famine, anything that might endanger their food supply, would cause them to migrate or die. Apparently Gargoyles do have to eat. I can see migrating being difficult for them with their biological drive to protect their territory.

Natural predators. Well, Gargoyles do have natural predators. Humans. Even a stone age human can take a rock and bash at a Gargoyle head until it chips and cracks off. Humans and Gargoyles would be competing species of intelligent omnivores. And as happened in the Gargoyles universe, Humans have wiped out all but a teeny tiny population of gargoyles.

Saying, well, Gargoyles have no natural predators if you don't count humans, is like saying any top of the food chain animal has no natural predators... unless you count other top of the food chain animals.

Then there is the part that most people don't factor in, which is other gargoyles. Desire, Jealousy, Madness, all the things that can lead to murder amoung humans, are not unheard of in Gargoyles clans. Iago. Demona. At least two examples of gargoyles who have the will and the ability to murder for their personal gain.

This is not even touching the fact that gargoyles are vulnerable eggs for years and years before they even hatch. And with the rest of the clan turning to stone during the day, eggs are vulnerable to predators and natural misadventures, even if great precautions are taken.

Gargoyles would have natural predators in their egg state even if there isn't much that can harm them as adults.

Gargoyles and poison. Well, since drugs appear to work on Gargoyles, I'd assume poison would as well. If gargoyles lived all over the world, then poisonous animals, insects, and plants would be a danger as well. Every so often an unlucky, or ignorant Gargoyle would probably get taken out by an environmental hazard like that.

So, I guess the point I'm trying to make is, attrition happens, and that three offspring for every two gargoyles doesn't seem to allow for the survival of the species in a "real" world. Especially when just about everything else on the planet multiplies at a much higher rate.

Just some thoughts
Mooncat
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Mooncat
Thursday, November 1, 2001 01:06:11 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Hope everyone had a good Halloween. Ours was fine. Went to Becca's 'spider party' at school, took her to the mall's trick-or-treat, then around the neighborhood. I had the night off (some people want Thanksgiving, or New Year's, but me, I want my Halloween! <g>). Had a gaggle of teenage girls at the door, one of whom was very busty and in a French maid's outfit -- told Tim he missed out by not getting the door on that one! Our scary dummy, George, claimed his first victim: tiny ninja kid who was too petrified to come up on the porch and when his dad lifted him, he screamed like hell and kicked and cried. Ah, Halloween!

We're heading across the mountains this weekend for our yearly visit to Leavenworth, the Bavarian-themed village that has way too many candy shoppes and bakeries. Just a little vacation.

Having taken a good long break from Changeling Moon, I finally went back and re-read it and determined that I don't have to gut the last several chapters. Was worried. Only minor changes needed. I'm really liking this one, for all that it feels like a big ol' fanfic. Hope to finish it soon and then plan to spend the rest of 2001 on fics and other stuff, thereby to begin 2002 getting to work on ElfLore III (and speaking of ElfLore, I got a peek at the cover-in-progress and it's gonna be great!)

Enough rambling for me. Time to go do some laundry. Whee!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, November 1, 2001 10:51:04 AM
IP: 15-154.075.popsite.net

Dern computer. i didn't want to post yet. lol

well, anyway, on another subject... well, i can't think of another subject relevent to TGS.

well, i like this pic. i like the character... imma use this pic from now on. k? k.

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Thursday, November 1, 2001 10:05:18 AM
IP: ns.usd230.k12.ks.us

hey all! i been gone a couple of days. i must say, it is good to be back home.... only now, i'm at school. i'm suppost to be working... but i say screw it!

but anyway, about the question someone asked me, i dun remember who, about wheather i own the yahoo clubs that were screwing up, i do indeed own them both, i got one werking, and the other i'm still werking on.

and i read a post by Nukes go boom, he said something about not wanting the WTC incident to appear in the saga. my coment on this is, i don't really care either way, he was right, we do come here for entertainment. when i said that you can't just leave something like that out, i meant that really, they should really take it into concideration, rather than pretending it didn't happen. i say, for the sake of a dedicated fan, like nukes, and others, they maybe should concider leaving it out. but thats jsut my opinion. sometimes even if you don't want to, for the sake of the most dedicated majority, you kinda of have to do what they want in a way... but as for me, the whole reason i read is for the thrill of well.... reading it. if i know whats going to happen, theres no point. or if i request that something is left out, there is no thrill. i think its cool that nukes wants to be on the staff... but me personally, i would rather not know anything of the future of the TGS stories. i'm a pretty good writer. but, i like to read for the piont of reading. i like comeing here. back in july, i read the whole timedancer seirse in like two weeks. if i would have known what was gonna happen, it would not have been as cool... but thats just me... i say, leave the writing up to the writers.
Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Thursday, November 1, 2001 10:02:27 AM
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Imzadi:
<<Skippy: <<Voyager's Wrestling Episode as worst Trek moment>>: But didn't that episode feature 7 of 9 in even MORE skimpy attire?!>>
Just a sleveless jumpsuit, nothing to get excited about. Though Seven did have two apparent nude scenes during Voyager. During the Doctor's Walter Mitty Epsiode there was a scene of the Doctor playing artist with Seven modeling for him. In the episode where Q's son shows up, he plays various pranks on the crew including making Seven's suit dissapear.

You know, I think it's not a good sign that I can remember all these details about Voyager when I really can't claim to have liked the series all that much.

Skippy The Klingon
Thursday, November 1, 2001 08:53:04 AM
IP: ppp92.tele-base.net

Buffy Rationalizations Follow Spoilers Ahead

Buffy's death. The Scoobies didn't report it. To anyone. They did tell Angel but otherwise they made a concerted effort to keep up the pretense that she was alive to everyone including the officials at Dawn's school (sending the Buffybot to parent/teacher night). They kept the household going. Made sure Dawn was fed and clothed and tapped danced around any phone calls from Hank who didn't really seem too worried about his daughter(s) (I never was completely clear on if he knew about Dawn) anyway. The coffin and headstone. You can buy a coffin without a body. (or the services of a funeral home) You can even get them off the internet. It's a big business. Or maybe Xander built it. The headstone I like to think that they carved themselves because to enlist the help of outsiders would up the risk of someone finding out. Unless they said it was a prank. Or a superstitious good luck charm. She wasn't embalmed. There was too much decay for only 4 months. As for her grave. I always had the impression that it was in an out of the way place. Not necessarily within the bounds of Sunnydale's multiple cemetaries. If they were worried about concecrated ground I've no doubt that they would have done some kind of blessing or other ritual. Even if it were within a cemetary it's just one more tombstone among many.

Josh > Will the next Slayer be hot? The trend would seem to indicate yes. And yeah, you can preorder your Complete Buffy Season One DVD at Amazon now for delivery in January. Meanwhile those lucky SOBs in the UK are many seasons ahead.

End Buffy talk

Star Trek Spinoffs - TGN was just hard to watch the first season. Dorthy Fontana said it was because Gene Rodenberry rewrote every single script to make them less conflicted and more uplifting but she seemed kind of bitter at the time so take that statement as you will. Voyager did have consistent writing issues. No quibbling from me, but there was a time during its early to middle point where I'd make a point to watch every week. Not so during its 5-7 seasons. Deep Space Nine was the only show that I liked consistently although I have yet to see how it ended. (Stupid Stupid local programing). And to those that strenuously debate about how it was lifting Babylon 5's storylines- I won't argue because I don't know. I couldn't make myself watch that show consistently either. There were elements that I did like but not enough to make me a loyal viewer. So far Enterprise just isn't working for me. I skipped last night's episode. Maybe I'll catch the replay Saturday or maybe not I'm actually more interested in Andromeda right now. (How is it that Kevin Sorbo's acting improved as soon as he got a haircut?)

Oh, one more bit of tv news. Oxygen is showing the Xena finale "Friend In Need" Saturday at 9:00. It's a director's cut with 15 minutes additional footage. I've read that it was a controversial (and violent) way to end the show. Not to mention that the logic of the scenario was kind of wonky. (haven't seen it yet, so I can't say for myself). Hopefully, the extra scenes will make for a better ending to a very odd last season of Xena.

Ta.

kathy
Thursday, November 1, 2001 08:18:54 AM
IP: client114039.atl.mediaone.net

Just a quick note before going to work....

I hope everyone had a fun and safe Halloweeen. We didn't have many kids, though.

On Tuesday evening, a truck was stopped by one of our officers. The cab was littered with white supremist literature. When being booked in, the man was asked his occupation. His reply was, "terrorist".
Yes folks, the FBI will be here today.

Thankfully the prediction of some type of terrorist attack happening by the end of the month didn't come true.

SJ> I know that the warnings are sounding lame and inadequate, but what would happen if the government had heard about *something* happening but they don't any more than that and they said nothing... and then it happened. The public would go apeshit. It's better to let the public know as much as they can. At least everyone has been told to be on alert. I'd rather have it this way than to think that everything is hunky dorey and then we get blasted again. It's frustrating, yes... but a necessary and informed frustration.

We received a printout from the FBI. A car was broken into at the Newark Airport that belonged to a pilot. His uniform and keys to various secured areas were stolen.

Miss Cleo: she's being fined in NY for violating the no-call law - she already paid a huge fine for violating the same thing in Missouri. She's also being sued because the transcript that she uses on her commericals are the same exact script from another pyschic. She's also being sued for fraud (d'uh!). Seems as if there are NO free minutes afterall - contrary to her ad.

Seems as if the Gathering date has been set for the last weekend in June.

Happy All Saints Day for those who celebrate it *hugs Denis*

Time for work...
Jan
Thursday, November 1, 2001 07:51:53 AM
IP: modem19-186.mo-net.com

Another emotional roller coaster of a day. I wake up to find that not only do I have an email from my friend across the country (yay!), but also that I won't get as much credit as I thought for one of my courses. It seems that my project management course overlaps another course, and if I take both I only get 5 units for the two instead of 6. The problem is that I have to have a minimum of 12 units per semester, and it was looking like I was gonna only have 11. This means I'd have to schedule another class, spend hours rearranging my schedule and getting everything signed off for.

After chatting with one advisor, she tells me to go to the Civil Engineering office and check up on the rules. I find out that I had the classes confused. project management overlaps with E120, not *C*E120. So I'll get full credit, not have to take any extra courses. Next semester will have only 4 courses in 12 units, leaving plenty of time for research.

And on top of everything else I still have to study for midterms.

I had a lengthy discussion with my roommate and my friend john about the possibility of making a Gargoyles on DVD set. The conclusion: It would probably cost me 20 thousand dollars to do it. Why? Well, I have to store ALL the episodes at digital quality, a.k.a. 30 gigabytes per ep, times 65 eps. I can fit about 8 full-length episodes per DVD (4 hours of video, roughly), so I'd need 30*8=240 gigabytes of scratch space for burning. All that hard drive space is EXPENSIVE. REALLY expensive. Then I need a burner, a device to capture the video, and blank media. We're talking enough to send me for another degree here...or at least buy me a nice new Jeep.

Now, if I just wanted to compress them all to RM format or something and make DVD-ROM's that you could only watch on your computer screen...that's different. For that all I need is a machine dedicated to compressing video. That would only run me about 4 grand, plus burner, media, and storage space 8-)

In conclusion: Disney is NEVER going to make a Gargoyles DVD set, because there's no way they could get enough people in this fandom to shell out $200-$300 for it (assuming current dvd prices, boxed set, file conversions, etc.) and make it worth while. Hell, I don't even know if *I'd* buy a copy.

The good news is that my iBook might be here as early as tomorrow. Definitely by Friday. Right now its in a warehouse in Sacramento.

Hope all your Halloween's were happy. If they were, I hate you, because I spent tonight studying for my midterm tomorrow.

Garg mating: Basically, this is a hack on the fibonacci sequence (we were playing with this in linear algebra a few weeks ago with rabbits). Yeah, rabbits breed a lot faster, but that's hardly relevent to the numbers problem. Suppose you have 50 gargs. They mate for the first time at age, what, 50? And produce 25 eggs. Twenty years later, they produce another 25 eggs. Meanwhile, there are 25 little gargs running around. Twenty years later, they produce another 25 eggs. Twenty years after that, they produce ANOTHER set of eggs. Meanwhile, the original set of eggs produces their own eggs. And the 2nd set of eggs has hatched and sent a bunch of gargs running around the castle. As you can see, this number can grow "quickly" relative to a gargoyle life span (though slow by human standards, cuz our women can spit out children every nine months...and some do).

replies.

Spot: <<This is where you all start to hate me.... Especially Josh, I think>>: You're right. I do, in fact, hate you. <<NOTHING AT ALL, FOR FOUR ENTIRE MONTHS!!! *>>: You bastard. <<completed my major in Immunology>>: I am so jealous. <<without becoming addicted to coffee>>: I haven't either. Of course, it probably helps that i refuse to pull all-nighters, or even work past 11PM. <<I'm about as curious as a cat with the attention span of a goldfish and an infinite amount of lives>>:: That sounds safe. <<We get that a lot in here>>: No, we just think everyone else is nuts and we're normal. <<Does it count when you just don't care about fashion?>>: Yes. Sorry. <<It's just that I seem to be a magnet for maniacs who want to hit ME>>: Uh huh. Aren't you a...woman? Doesn't that preclude you being a good driver? ;-) <>: Better than "spot"? <<Where, exactly>>: Not what we needed to know. <>: But does he enjoy it? << I'm sorry, what did you say>>: I dunno, I wasn't paying attention. <<College students needing money.>>: An accurate guess. <<My tongue hurts>>: Not gonna say it... <<Apparantly, greed is good>>: Was there ever a doubt? <<your ex has undergone some sort of brain-removal operation recently>>: I think its a proven fact that it happens the second they become your ex. <<We should be worshipped>>: Sounds good to me. <<is this from one of your fics>>: From his/mara's fics. Pest and Death are kick-ass characters. <>: Ouch. <>: Like Microsoft Access? Or were you looking for something else? <<when I wake up, I'm going to do... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING>>: Just for the record: F*CK YOU!

Todd: <<That definitely doesn't say much for the intelligence of the U.S. electorate in the DC Comics Universe>>: Oh right, like they're any smarter in OUR universe. <<Anybody besides me have the suspicion that the Watchers Council is likely to at least consider arranging for a fatal accident to befall Faith in prison, so that they can get a new Watcher?>>: Killing Eliza is unacceptable. I will not tolerate it. I haven't slept with her yet. <<considering how most super-villains usually tend to be lumbered with bungling incompetents for their sidekicks>>: Have you noticed that its NOT the case in Gargoyles?

Jan: <<the stupid fools misspelled my name!>>: Groan.

Kathy: <<Faith is currently in a California Correctional Facility for Women. When she dies the next Slayer will be called.>>: Will the nexxt slayer be hot or not? <<January of 2002>>: Buffy DVD's!? Now THAT I will pay for. <<This show is suffering badly from the Star Trek Spinoff tradition of sucky first season writing>>: Um...ALL 7 seasons of Voyager sucked. <<Some stories just shouldn't be messed with>>: As if that would stop WB.

Kyryn: <<with everything else in this CR that would be a very small worry>>: No one complained when I brought in the coke. <<wanders off through a conveniently large mousehole.>>: I hope I don't run into THAT mouse. <<if you consider the fact that Xanatos also included the dungeons of the castle and the original rookery that was in the cliffs>>: Who says he did?>>

Metaldemon: <<That's a great observation>>: I thought so. <<yes, I meant streaks>>: Good, because if steaks are suddenly appearing in cloud chambers, we've got problems.

Yooper: <<No structures today>>: I don't think I'd be too happy about that...I like structures. That's why I'm here. I'd be pissed if I had ONLY my other crappy classes. <>: God, I wish I were looking at finals instead of midterms. I HATE midterms. <<The f****** university I'm at changed from 10 week terms to 15 week terms two years ago>>: The 15 week term has its advantages too. Like we're not always in the middle of a testing period 8-) <<before pulling an all-nighter to finish an assignment, make sure the assignment is actually due the next day>>: LOL! Oops! This is one of the many reasons I refuse to pull all-nighters. <<There are columns in there. Click on my name>>: Ah, I see. But don't those maybe look a bit thin to you? <<There are glass sheets *between* the columns, but I don't think they're structural>>: That's good, because they'd be shards on the street. <<What fabricating plant has the equipment capable of producing it>>: A 100-foot beam requires only a 100-foot belt at the end of the line to extrude the steel onto. And I've seen some BIG steel plants. <<it's not actually possible to bring stone gargoyles to life by raising a castle above the clouds, either, so we can probably let this slide>>: Have you tried? <<Taking a piece of the cliff and putting it up there with the castle makes no f***ing logical sense>>: Certainly not if the castle wasn't rooted into the cliff. But if the foundation wasn't in the cliff, then what is acting a base for the castle? <<Metric is the tool of Satan>>: WHAT!? That whole pounds as both units of mass and force drives me f*cking bonkers! <>: You're sick dude. <>: Then you haven't spent enough time in physics. <>: I've been using metrics since the junior high. I just don't operate in english units anymore. They're not predictable enough. <<We'd need something approximating a floor plan to even begin to guess.>>: Also, the floor plan was obviously altered. The castle on top of the Eyrie is clearly NOT the same castle that sat on the cliff face. Just look at them. <<If you care to debate this further, I could sketch up how I think it would be supported by the superstructure and scan it in>>: Not debate, just find out what you're opinions are. I'd love to see it. I'll be talking about it with a PhD in structural analysis next semester. <<didn't want to take the time to calculate the radius of gyration for a hollow square or for an I-beam or some damn thing>>: Don't you have tables with that? My advisor's office is filled with books of tables of those sorts of info. <<How the cliff is even attached to the columns>>: Welded rock bolts? <<My hydrology prof gave us candy>>: My hydrology prof gave us our assignments back. Not that I was at lecture... <<Or when the castle was absolutely completed>>: When the Castle rose above the clouds. I assume that means every original stone, which migh explain the inclusion of the cliffside. However, he did completely rearrange the castle to fit on top of his building...so I don't know if its still the same castle technically. <<this is a boring class at times>>: Like most of the other classes we take. <<Don't use TGC for any sort of visual reference. The animation is terrible>>: Pictures is pictures. <<I'd like to hear that story>>: That's the good part. <<The weight of this hunk of rock would be incredible>>: Translation: Eyrie becomes a pancake. <<zero is used as it's maximum yield for engineering calculations>>: LOL I don't think its THAT weak in tension. <<I'm a Civil but I've had to take a MechE course. At Michigan Tech, the statics course that the civils take is run by the ME department>>: And here, the statics course that the ME's take is run by the CE dept. <<link>>: That's not such a bad looking building.

Patrick Toman: <>: Don't wanna know. <<we know the elevators run all the way up into the castle>>: Hmmm, good point. But have you ever noticed that there are no elevator shafts in the arboretum? <<If it's real, it's useless dead load and a safety hazard as well>>: What if its part of the castle's foundation? I mean, those tons of rock have to have SOME support beneath them, otherwise they'd fall into the swimming pool. <<as if writing erotica is any less difficult than writing any other type of fiction>>: I didn't say it wasn't, and I didn't say that yours wasn't good. I actually think your erotica (as well as Christines and a couple other authors that don't post in here write very well. Ah, screw it. I'm not gonna try to defend myself. Anyone can write ANYTHING. Doesn't make it good, or challenging, or creative. I give no special awards for smut, or for anything else. Art is art. Unless its modern art, in which case it doesn't count.

Mooncat: <<Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers>>: You callin' me chicken? ;-) <<I'm sensing some hostility here>>: My bad. <<Are you just against the idea of a fan fic chat room, or what?>>: No, I was just thinking that gorebash is too lazy to add it, even if there were demand. <<Please let me have the links of your smut fic>>: Its not online. None of my stuff is released yet, though I haven't heard any complaints from the people who have read it. Note that I don't actually have anything AGAINST smut. I don't have anything against any type of writing, really. I'm just saying that its really not hard to write your fantasies. <<A woman can also carry fraternal twins by different fathers>>: Are you sure about that? I'm quite certain that once an egg becomes fertilized, it puts out a chemical that kills other sperm. That means that the egg would have to be simultaneously fertilized by two different sets of sperm. And I don't know about you, but I don't think sloppy seconds are too erotic. We're talking major porn action going on there. <<Where as Gargoyles having at most a possibility of three young, with a decade or so between each hatching? I can see a biological drives like that spelling the end of Gargoyles as a species pretty quickly>>: Its much worse. Its 3 decades between hatchings. But you're forgetting that each generation produces THREE sets of offspring. <<if they are all genetically stable to begin with, the multigenerational inbreeding should not cause them much harm>>: What are the odds of that?

Nukes: <<everyone stop by my house (Windsor, CT>>: I'll get right on it. <<Doesnt mean im not alredy!>>: Lol, good point. <<My friend Bobby is going as Osama Binladen for halloween>>: That is some twisted sh*t.

Sevarius Jr: <<fun STDs>>: Isn't that an oxymoron? <<To the people of NY, Xanatos was just some eccentric billionaire>>: To me, he's the guy I wish was MY dad 8-) <<lesbian pornography = hot. Homosexual male pornography = NOT hot>>: Dude, that's not just a stereotype. Its a fact.

Ravyn: <>: ARRRR! <>: Conclusion: 90% of girls with taste in music hang out in this CR ;-) <<Good luck with your midterms>>: Thanks, I'll need it. <<CivE's just might be the only ones left using those too>>: I saw them used in my ME course! <>: Beat her. Beat her now.

Lady Mystic: <<the name you post with isn't identical to the name of you email address>>: Ah, but if you've been paying attention, you can put ANYTHING in front of the @ and it will go to me. Even "ladymystic". ;-) <<Are you asking for FS to keep his kinky fantasies to himself and me or for me to keep my kinky fantasies to myself as well? Or both>>: Yes. <<You are even more lucky and privileged than you let on>>: I don't think that's possible. Unless I'm really Alexander Xanatos. Remember the post from SJ while I was in Canada that said "Hey Josh, is everyone in your family or associated with your family extremely disgustingly wealthy?" or something to that effect. <<is so disgusting and annoying yet doesn't seem to irritate or concern smokers one bit>>: It does when non-smokers won't kiss them. There is a reason I don't date girls who smoke.

Brooklyn: <<but, Gargoyles: 2198, New Olympians, and Redemption Squad are nowhere in sight>>: Just because its dedicated doesn't mean its a copy. <>: They won't. TGS is a split universe from Greg's Master Plan. Greg revealed a lot since TGS started, and TGS isn't going to waste time backtracking.

Yggdrasil: <<Although the movie has the best sword battle ever!>>: HELL YEAH!

Wilek: Damn you! I should be studying. <<MICROSOFT is my Microsoft>>: Welcome to the club. <<that my troupe didn't do or hadn't heard of the purple onion>>: You don't understand. EVERYONE does the purple onion. <>: Seems awfully nice. <<significantly lessened risks involved>>: I think your fears about the real thing are inflated. <<Wonder what you lot think MY children would be like.>>: We're obviously not as afraid. <<why didn't anyone tell me>>: You'd win on single length, but I win on total weekly content. <<took a significant turn for the better from its softcore porn roots>>: It got more pornographic? <<Maybe they respect him for his mind>>: Dude, this is Hollywood you're talking about. They respect nothing but money. <>: Isn't that how you spend every month? <<Wouldn't it be all rotten and moldy?>>: Isn't that the point? <<Just the human psyche's habit of unfairly associating everything with sex?>>: Why is it unfair? <<you want a gender-reversed version of me for whatever it is you're talking about>>: I dunno, I'd imagine a female version of you would be pretty desireable to Gside. <>: Alright, fine! <<Even if it's because you're gathering information about them for the purpose of hunting them down and tearing out their throats>>: Even then. Just find out where they live and nuke 'em. You don't need to commit names to heart. <<Besides, you can be a man without being a stupid git>>: Yeah, and you can be female without be an illogical emotional chaos-master, but only the vulcans have figured out how. <<tripe as The Man Show>>: HEY! I love that show! <<Like it's your decision>>: ::yoda voice:: It will be. It will be. <<Will MusicMatch Jukebox work?>>: Nope. <<Haven't seen Resurrection>>: I saw it. I hardly consider it valid, though. <<90% of the stores worth bothering to enter are in malls>>: Mmmm...Apple Store... <<this kind of thing is why I treat my true life and my "real" life as separate universes>>: Yeah, but the CR people ARE part of my real life. So that rules that out. <<If nature weren't such a piece of schiesse, our need for genetic engineering wouldn't be so desperate>>: Maybe that's because WE'RE not perfect. <>: The fourth race. <<Doesn't he own the server or something>>: I don't consider that a valid reason. My friend owns the server my site is on, I still have full access to it and I can upload anything I want. <<truly useful only in its capacity as the bridge between the mind and the outside>>: Um, you haven't been using it correctly. <<a rock or a compact car or a nice gazebo or something>>: I'm a soda. <<must check out>>: 7 VERY good books. <<What if they've figured out how to synthesize transparent metals>>: Didn't consider that. I was assuming 20th century technology, since that's where the REST of the world was. Xanatos may be a weapons designer, but I wasn't aware he owned any steel companies. <<Disney villains tend to have the best songs>>: Scar, Lion King. <<tanker truck full of whipped cream>>: All that whipped cream is going to waste... <>: Never stops me. <<If a courier interrupts something important, assume his message is *more* important>>: Hell yeah! <<being some demon's lackey ill befits a villain>>: I wholeheartedly agree. <<Is there something unsavory about the construction of dreadlocks that I'm not aware of?>>: They require not washing your hair for many moons. <>: Brother! <<you get all but a week's worth of my sunny days>>: By moving to LA. <>: By moving to Seattle. <<Well England birthed the Teletubbies and the Spice Girls>>: Excellent counterpoint. But Fleur is in Australia. <<Don't make me get out the duct tape again>>: Engineers' Creed: "If you can't duct it...f*ck it!" <<My genetic engineers are working on something>>: HEY! I, along with most of the people in here who've had it, happen to like it! <<Is there anyone else who would love to see the Joker get his hands on the Eye of Odin?>>: The only person I'd like to see with the Eye is ME! <<Eh>>: TMI stands for Too Much Info. <<The uses are endless>>: Most as bombs, though.

Robby's Evil Twin: <>: I have that list ;-) <<tell them I've already seen the movie and characters die at the end, just to make them cry>>: I like you much better than Robby ;-) <<he just made the castle out of Gundanium>>: Well duh, except it doesn't exist. <<Certainley not I, with my 500 luscious slave girls who do all my bidding and meet my every evil and sinister whim>>: You realize that I'm going to kill you now.

DPH: <<How big was that last post of yours compared to Doug's normal posts>>: Dig 'em out and check. <<How many other villains have a really good sidekicks who carry their own weight>>: I'd imagine Thailog and Demona wouldn't be caught dead with a useless sidekick.

Gside: <<Programming environment?>>: Ah, you poor schlob. <<Hold me>>: No thanks. <<Are you wang?>>: sometimes. <<we are still the Garden State>>: Dude, in the 21st century, nasty sh*t goes into gardens. Including sh*t. <<You are going to be a real heartbreaker when you grow up>>: I hate my life. Yes, I just read that comic TODAY. <<Free meat>>: Hell yeah! <<Any extra men for a female are superfluous>>: Tell that to all those women in porn. <<you wouldn't want to be there>>: Alright, fine, I'll take "wazoo" off my visit list.

Daphne: Aren't you up a little late? Just curious. Seems like only I go to bed after Gside, and that's just because I'm on the West Coast. <<what about relieving yourself on the cars of your enemies?>>: Cars? How about FACES! <<Shoot>>: Not today, and probably not tomorrow either. You'll have to wait a LONG time (if ever) for a lack of Red in THIS CR! <<beahving doesn't eliminate *all* fun, of course>>: No, just the good stuff. <<is that a variation on the "backpacking in europe" story>>: No, its a variation on this "holes in feet" story. <<this kid's getting some and I'm not... I think I'll harass him about his $20>>: Bah. <<yeah, we were the ones you didn't think you wanted>>: Ah. Well, better to not be wanted by guys like me. Trust me. We're weird. And I don't mean just in the geeky way. <>: Despite the fact that my classes are in the morning, my schedule next semester is actually VERY good. My professors are actually VERY cool, they're just geeky. I hate most of my classes, but this would be true even if I was a humanities major. And I've never once had the urge to rip my nails (or any other part of my body off) doing problem sets. Everytime I get annoyed, my philo major friend says "argh! I have 4 essays due this week!" and I sit back and laugh. I also like having the instant academic respect of everyone on this campus and every other campus. <<holding the knowledge that I'm not the kind of girl most guys think they want>>: Oh right, cuz its so much better for us guys. The irony is that 99.2% of girls would love to sleep with bill gates just for a shot at his billions, while the rest of us geeks are hatin' life. <<if not for Mike, I'd be extremely bitter right now>>: Well, obviously, ignoring the fact that you aren't a maxim swimsuit model, Mike seems to like you. And since he's your b/f, that's all that really matters. I think. Women who have a steady relationship and still get breast implants boggle me. <<what does it take (short of actual powers) to be a superhero?>>: The desire to thwart villians. Foolish optimism. Gullibility. Can you guess which side I like better? <<I'd go. Mike would pay>>: How nice of him ::cough freeloader cough:: <<my rival in high school>>: You had a rival? Wow! I'd have given anything to match wits with someone who wasn't my friend. Problem was: all smart people in my class were friends of mine. <<a blue moon>>: Sounds like something the UC Berkeley crowd would do to Stanfurd. I envision 30,000 students painting their butts cerulean and dropping their pants in Palo Alto.

Sorow: <<Thanks for the encouragement, you've always been like a big brother>>: No, Gside, not the sexylosers kind!

Skippy: <<Voyager's Wrestling Episode as worst Trek moment>>: But didn't that episode feature 7 of 9 in even MORE skimpy attire?!

FS: Okay, looks like I spoke too soon. Turns out EVERYONE is up after Gside. <<Molecular dioxide>>: In its pure form, O2 is quite deadly. <<you will get many answers>>: Too many, most of which are wrong. <<This is a cool discussion>>: Especially for those of us who plan on having one! <<How do you move the huge granite bricks>>: Sky cranes. Huge granite bricks aren't as heavy as 150,000 ton girders. <<how did Fortress 1 stay in the air>>: 1? 6 helicopter rotors. <<have a HUGE boulder that is no more that is no more than a few hundred pounds>>: Still, that's a lot of dead weight. <<New Olympians would be a politics lesson. So we've got all of high school pretty much covered. <<You suck!>>: Sorry. <<Tylenol-3 they gave me ddin't work for CRAP!>>: Must not be scottish <<My jaw is gonna be wired>>: Wired shut? As in, being fed by LM through a straw. Boy is YOUR sex life gonna suck. <<90D>>: Huh? <<Most of the files I need to index ARE MP3s!>>: Yeah, but all that's needed are the file names. That part of the indexing takes almost no time (or shouldn't, on a decent computer). <<Which I need to leech from you>>: Send me a 100 gig drive and some money for my time and I'll consider it ;-) <<100lbs of C4 on every floor below the castle>>: Uh...bad... <<The trio and Angela became human for a day>>: Thought so. Brooklyn calls the girl back?! And explains WHAT exactly? <<no relationship is perfect!>>: See Goliath and Demona. <<They can't hit each other from 2 feet apart>>: Um, both have lots of scorch marks on them. <<it's a moot point>>: Yes, I suppose so. <<a date-rape spell>>: sounds like something Willow would use to get Tara to put out. <<Unless he stole a truckload of milk>>: When I was 7, my fantasy was to hijack a Toys 'R Us truck. <<Maybe 5%>>: Maybe 1%. <<It is a rite of passage>>: Hardly. Many genetically advanced humans are born without them. Like my mother. <<GOOD smut on the other hand>>: Is rarer than a straight answer from Greg Weisman. <<more difficult to write erotica and action than to write either things>>: For all my love of scenery, that's the hardest stuff for me to write. Followed by sex, then sappiness (I CAN NOT write a couple being cute), then action. Action comes kind of naturally, since I have a violent imagination. <<They are simply asexual>>: I'm gonna reach here and guess that LM doesn't know this yet. <<Reaper to a game of Twister>>: Dude, he couldn't be Bill & Ted at Battleship. <<at least the citizens aren't idiots>>: Aren't these the same people that elected Luthor as president?

Lynati: <<garg biology>>: Ooh, good points there too. Wow, this could be a real scientific argument that I'd have no business participating in, since I work solely with inanimate objects. ::pouts::

Think happy thoughts so I pass my midterm!

Only two things are infinite: the universe and stupidity - and I'm not sure about the former.
-Albert Einstein

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, November 1, 2001 03:11:22 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-206.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

*leans in*



I keep seeing this arguement made for the gargs being at an "evolutinary dead-end", but people are forgetting a big factor-
survival rate.
Except for humans, species strive to strike a balance with nature. Harmony with all things around them, and by harmony i am including the "predator/prey" relationship.
Now, if you consider the biology of gargs in a habitat with-OUT humans, they are at the top of the food chain. They have no natural predators; they are virtually indestructible, given their healing abilities, and more so while they are asleep(barring a natural disaster).

Now, if most gargs survive to have offspring for all three seasons- a very likely surmise- then you are having 3 beings replacing 2 beings every "generation". and all three are also expected to live to maturity and bear 2-3 sets of offspring.

If gargoyles were more proliferic, they would out-breed their ability to balance with nature- too many predators to too small a space, even given thast theu are omnivores- and would subsequently have to divide and move to new territories every couple generations, and eventually there would be too many for the environment to sustain.

Most species have multiple offspring multiple times because their survival rate is so low. Only one of the litter is expected to survive to adulthood for many wild predators, and even fewer live to bare their own children.

Gargoyles aren't at a dead-end, they are just developed so that they won't become their own worst enemy, ecologically speaking.

...make enough sense?

*poings out*
Lynati
Thursday, November 1, 2001 02:51:50 AM
IP: kcx-ks18a-125.rasserver.net

DERN LOT BOYS!
Why do I never remember to turn off word wrap BEFORE I post?
Fire Storm
Thursday, November 1, 2001 02:32:10 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

HAPPY ALL HALLOWS EVE!

Jaden: <Okay, I won't remind you. No images of broken bones, slurping "food" or the pain and

painkillers. Don't worry I won't remind you of any of that>
Why thank you! I am glad you didn't remind me!

Tim: <the Greens seeking a ban on...dihydrogen monoxide>
Deadly stuff. Will eventually disolve anything. Ya know whats worse?
Molecular dioxide.

Yooper: <I'll throw in my $0.002(sic) of the Aerie's feasablility:>
Ask a engineering question in here and you will get many anwsers!
<I'd let it die>
No, no! This is a cool discussion!
<How do you move ten 100' piece of steel that weigh 307000 lbs each down the streets of Manhatten?>
How do you move the huge granite bricks to the top of that building?
Hell, how did Fortress 1 stay in the air?
<put up pictures of this building if anyone is actually wants to see what I'm talking about>
J0! I want to see it!

Actually, I was thinking of what they use at the Detroit Zoo. They took a wire mesh, shaped it, then

sprayed concrete onto it. You could have a HUGE boulder that is no more than a few hundred pounds.
And if they mixed styrofoam into the concrete agregate, you could have a boulder bigger than a car that

a single person could lift.
WITH the same strength of standard concrete.

Imzadi: 
And New Olympians would be a politics lesson.
<Bah. After my first jolt cola, I tried to kill my best friend with a massive iron chair and a golf

ball>
For me, it flips the world from left to right.
I have to switch my hands on the keyboard to even be able to type.
And the english language starts to get harder and harder to understand.
<If I hadn't spent my time working FROM home, I might have felt the same way.>
And I shall repeat what i have said in the past.
You suck!
<Why? Hot tip: after wisdom teeth surgery, get VICODIN!>
Oh, I plan on it. The Tylenol-3 they gave me didn't work for CRAP!
<Just use vicodin to sleep for several days, you won't even notice you're hungry. I speak from personal

experience>
Not an option. My jaw is gonna be wired for a few WEEKS, possibly 3 months.
<Next in the "Species" series?>
The alien species that sent us the info from the first one comes here!
<Do it while you sleep. Are you doing something MORE important? No, SETI is NOT more important. Neither

is RC5>
Seti@Home is 90D!
<1) those don't get indexed. This is a text index>
Then why bother? Most of the files I need to index ARE MP3s!
<2) that's not very much, I have 60 GB>
Which I need to leech from you

it's in the center! DUH! :)
<A demolition expert's dream>
"So, how are you going to bring down this building?"
"Well, we got drunk last night and talked about this. We COULD use the least ammount of C4 possible.

BUT we decided to place at least 100lbs of C4 on every floor below the castle, then kick back, enjoy a

few brews, and watch the fireworks."

Well, good! :)
<Which one was that?>
The trio and Angela became human for a day.
<Despite the fact that in the original picture, the two are trying to blast the crap out of each other>
Well, no relationship is perfect!
And is the tageting system THAT bad on those robots that they can't hit each other from 2 feet apart?
<Yeah, sure. I am a villian, after all>
No, i am not a villian, but I play one in reality!
<Does Kit get a profile too?>
Well, since Doug dosn't want one, it's a moot point, isn't it?
<"Harry Potter gets lucky">
I think he used a date-rape spell.
<Sorry to inform you, but stealing milk does not make you cool>
Unless he stole a truckload of milk... and the truck too.

Mooncat: 
Maybe 5%

Fleur: <I'm sorry, what did you say?>
:p

NukesGoBoom: 
Now, when you can pop the lock on the fridge that the milk is in, THAT is cool.

SJ: <Someone in this CR who actually admits to watching gay porn>
Does hermaphrodite porn count?
Or Transexuals?
Or species that don't have a set male and female?

Ravyn: <Ouch! I hope the wisdom teeth thing goes okay ... for that matter, I hope I don't need mine

taken out ever>
Oh, but you will! It is a rite of passage.
And if you don't get them ripped out, I will do it for you when you come up here! No charge! ;)

Patrick: <Re: "Anyone can write smut">
I agree on that. Now, GOOD smut on the other hand...
<as if writing erotica is any less difficult than writing any other type of fiction. Heck... sometimes

it's harder.>
No puns on the harder part!
BUt I find it is more difficult to write erotica and action than to write other things.

Wilek: 
Well, define "Male" and "Female." The drones have no ability to lay eggs or otherwise give birth to new

children (Any xenomorph COULD be a host, but never create a new life). So, by that defintion, they are

not female. And they do not have the ability to fertalize the Queen, so they are not male.
They are simply asexual.
<Fascinating...<takes a note>>
Just don't challenge Reaper to a game of Twister. b4$74rD always wins.
<True--the human DNA in them marks them as a different bloodline, perhaps even a different (if closely

related) species>
They are NOT of my species! They are an ABOMINATION!
<<instinctively draws a 36-barrelled chaingun and shoots in some random direction, which turns out to

have been the doctor>>
Oh no! You killed Dr. Naughtius! Now he may never be able to control the tentacle monsters!
<She is cool. I really have to return to System Shock 2 sometime>
I gotta play System Shock 1 again... just have to find a copy.
<That would be a great motto for a radio show or something of his>
And that radio show would be the biggest hit since Limbaugh!
<How does one go about this? Step by step?>
1. Play game
2. Play some more
3. Get lucky and get a rare and powerful weapon
4. Sell it on eBay!
<Which, as near as I can tell, is exactly what the citizenry of Gotham are asking.>
Well, at least the citizens arn't idiots.
<Ho. Lee. FRELL>
Oh... Now, you KNOW I will write THAT too! >:)

Gside: <<<The tale of the Mystic Lady>>: ? >
An oddly true tale of Lady Mystic.
<Actually, Cranky Monarch is one of the tracks on Live Noise>
Hmm... Well, I just got what I could when I was on Napster.
I guess I should find some other MP3 trading service.
<Oh my! You are going to be a real heartbreaker when you grow up. Oh, yes you are>
Heartbreaker is the same as heartEATER, right?
<Nah, that's a tame one>
But cool none the less. Gives a whole new definition to Cybersex!

Very true. His side jobs are quite important.
<Don't worry, they're from the end of the manga>
OH. OK. I remember now! I downloaded the Manga quite some time ago and it has been a while since I read

it.
<Get the divx codec. It works fine on mine. But not looking quite as nice as all those 150meg Triguns.>
I thought I loaded Divx on here...
It's cool! Thanks!
And why the frell did they name that Codec after that POS system from Circuit City?
<No, I'm trying to imply sick jokes>
Same difference!
Fire Storm
Thursday, November 1, 2001 02:31:19 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Gside - >>But the odd thing is, two women exciting a male follows from biology, but any extra men for a female are superfluous.<<

Your argument only makes sense if conception is guarenteed at every mating. Otherwise, two males and one female is just as beneficial as two females and one male, at any given mating. 2 men is a better chance of fertilizing a female than one alone. A woman can also carry fraternal twins by different fathers.

But back to the original topic of same gender mating only, with no extra opposite gender, procreation isn't really a factor. Two girls together can't generate a baby any more than two males, without some kind of artifice involved. Though I think there is a process called parthenogenisis (sp?) where females can produce young without a male.

Now, bringing the topic around to Gargoyles, I never thought the idea of them being biolgically imprinted on one mate and only one mate really made sense. In the animal world, there are animals that attach to only one mating partner, but they are prolific breeders, having multiple young on a yearly basis. Where as Gargoyles having at most a possibility of three young, with a decade or so between each hatching? I can see a biological drives like that spelling the end of Gargoyles as a species pretty quickly.

ie, there were 36 eggs that Princess Katherine took to Avalon. Thus, 72 breeding adults during the last mating flights, of the 36 eggs, your maximum breeding pairs are 18, out of three hatchings of about the same numbers, you'd get three times 18 possible genetic pairings, assuming each pairing of each generation has no duplicates -- 54 genetic pairing sets (108 gargs) from the original 72, so each successive generation would be a decreasing number of gargoyle couples, and that's not taking into the factor of uneven numbers of males and females, and death due to accident or misadventure. And without infusion of new blood lines from other clans, a gargoyle clan like Goliath's, even with some biological quirk that keeps them from mating incestuously, their limited gene pool and mating habits would make them successively more inbred with each generation. Of course, if they are all genetically stable to begin with, the multigenerational inbreeding should not cause them much harm.

Just some random thoughts.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Thursday, November 1, 2001 02:24:22 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Happy All Saints Day (since Halloween ended at midnight)

Had some fun this evening, me and a friend went out to a local haunted house and hung out all night. This year I made up an ape makeup and entered the costume contest. I wouldn't mind the fact that I lost if I'd placed in the top three, but I got beat out by a pair of girls dressed as dice, arrrgh!

Oh well, still a lot of fun. When we went wandering around Wal Mart afterwards I got some attention. Though the best reaction of the night was the poor woman in the Taco Bell window when she jumped back at the sight of me pulling through...

TV Thoughts:
Buffy: The Musical: It looks like fun, though I wonder how they explain the sudden rash of singing is it some ancient Goddess of Music comes roaming through town or something?

Smallville: First Electro-Man! Then Bug-Boy! Now Psycho Pyro Coach! You know, I think I like the teen angst more than I like the silly super villans...at that rate everyone in town will be a super villan by the end of this season.
I also think John Scneider is terribly miscast as Johnathan Kent. He comes across as too bitter.

Enterprise: Already found more than enough things to do with my time than watch it. Pregnat males and wrist nipples just shot this episode right past Spock's Brain and the Voyager's Wrestling Episode as worst Trek moment...yet...
Skippy The Klingon
Thursday, November 1, 2001 02:20:58 AM
IP: ppp59.tele-base.net

Haloween -- The one day a year gargoyles can walk around without seeming quite so out of place ...

silvadel
Thursday, November 1, 2001 02:03:04 AM
IP: cache-1.nyw.ny.webcache.rcn.net

HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE!
Robby's evil twin Lonny> Thanks for the input. I think I will always be SOROW.

Wilek> Hey sweetheart! I don't think I've talked to you in quite a while. Thanks for the encouragement, you've always been like a big brother.
SOROW - [allison.abadie@mail.utexas.edu]
Thursday, November 1, 2001 01:21:22 AM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

happy birthdays to all to whom it applies
and a happy All Saint's Day to any who celebrate.

as far as the whole anthrax thing goes, in retrospect I realize it was a mistake to read Stephen King's The Stand over the summer. Good book, I recommend it, but it's ,made even creepier than normal considering it's about an extreme biological weapon. oh well, I guess I had no way to know.

DPH>><out of each portal flows a white powdery substance> NOO! oh, wait... I was worried it was snow. nevermind.
 this, above all: to thine own self be true. love that bard.
<time travel to prevent Haim Saban from producing Power Rangers> would that have killed VR troopers before it started, or would VR troopers have just filled the power ranger niche? because between the two, Power Rangers was the superior show,at least at the time.
<Now, if Daphne and Winterwolf would post today, things might be back to the normal levels of insanity> I'm a major factor in the insanity quotient???? [stunned with honor]

Ravyn Maza>><my Diamondbacks rule> I just want schilling to get the world series that he didn't get in 93. love those phillies.

Greg Bishansky>><"Ah, to be a bird. To fly the skies, sing my song, and best of all occasionally peck someone's eyes out."
-George Carlin "Napalm and Silly Putty". > what about relieving yourself on the cars of your enemies?

Josh>>
<And then I almost died. > Shoot. thank GOd for "almost".
<Why? > it's a mutual thing. beahving doesn't eliminate *all* fun, of course.
<Sounds like my backpacking trip in the Sequoias.> is that a variation on the "backpacking in europe" story? [Friends reference!]
<Will you please tell me? ;-)> we kind of figured the conductor looked at us, then decided "this kid's getting some and I'm not... I think I'll harass him about his $20". petty loser.
<Just out of curiosity, where the f*ck were girls like you when I was in high school? > [sighs] yeah, we were the ones you didn't think you wanted.
<In which case your major is irrelevant. Sorry, I just like to bash humanities majors. > yeah, i just hate having a decent schedule, not-uncool professors, classes I mostly enjoy, and homework that for the most part doesn't make me want to rip my fingernails off :)
<That's fine, I don't need permission to be bitter ;-)> oh, bitterness I understand... I feel a bit of it myself, holding the knowledge that I'm not the kind of girl most guys think they want. heck, if not for Mike, I'd be extremely bitter right now.

Spacebabie>> I know that's the spelling, but every time I see it I wonder if the writer is trying to joke and say Small-Vile

Villian requirements>> ok, I'm pretty clear on what's needed to be a villian... what does it take (short of actual powers) to be a superhero? anyone?

Gside>><Or you could try putting King Lear on a farm or in feudal Japan. Wait, those have already been done. > I'm afraid to mess with the bard. no good could come of it from my pen.

Carolynn Marie>><better to be smoking on Earth than in the hereafter> it might be nice if they were mutually exclusive :)
<Reminds me of one time working at Shoprite> [shudders] been there. shop rite customers can be pretty dense. no offense to all of the many many non-dense shop rite costomers, of course.

Coyote>><does anyone else want to see Michael Jackson and Alien Ant Farm perform "Smooth Criminal" in concert together, just to see AAF upstage Michael playing his own song? > I'd go. Mike would pay. he loves both versions.
of course, my rival in high school was named Addie, so when my parents heard the AAF version on the radio one day, they were like "wow, she even gets her own song?"

Wilek>><welcome back, wordsmith> wow, you remembered the title and everything? I feel so special!

traveler>><and the first (nearly) full moon since about 1955 as well. > a blue moon this month, too, right?

not too much else.
GOd bless, all!
Daphne
Thursday, November 1, 2001 12:34:05 AM
IP: stu-elan125.sju.edu

Imzadi> <<Cocoa is a mac programming environment>>: Programming environment? I've just been using compiliers and a text editor.
<>: Strangle them with their intestines.
<>: Acceptable.
<<there are no equations>>: Hold me. I'm scared.
<<just DiffEQ's>>: Those are quite prevalent, too. As are difference equations. Don't really like either.
<>: Are you wang? Sure? I don't see a problem with wang. It.
<<Anthrax does seem rather innocuous compared to that, ne?>>: Rather like a small sniffle.

Spacebabie> <<Well you should have known when you live in New Jersey your going to get a lot of cracks about your state>>: Of course, but I object to a general ugh, as opposed to a comment on the texture of the water or the viscosity of the air. And yet, we are still the Garden State.

Daniel Johnson> <<Who has summoned me from the abyss?>>: I mentioned you a while back, but nothing came of it.
My condolences about your mother.

Fire Storm> <<The tale of the Mystic Lady>>: ?
<>: Actually, Cranky Monarch is one of the tracks on Live Noise.
<<Little baby evil is growing up SO fast>>: Oh my! You are going to be a real heartbreaker when you grow up. Oh, yes you are.
<<Is that including the one involving wires, cybernetics and SHODAN?>>: Nah, that's a tame one.
<<But you forget that his pizza is always lucious because the King of Spain never rushes!>>: I do not. I could never forget luscious pizza. I just felt that his sports side jobs were all that needed mentioning at this time.
<<Who? Sorry, I don't know names>>: Don't worry, they're from the end of the manga. You might want to check out the ranmascan project. Anyway, Akari is a sumo pig breeder (Katsunishiki is her giant prize pig), and actually starts to turn Ryouga's head. Konatsu was raised as a kunoichi (aka female ninja), even though he is male. He gets taken in by Ukyou to help out at Ucchan's.
<<Kodachi and Susuki>>: Watch what you say. There are those that object to Sasuke's replacing of Gosunkugi.
<<If only my computer could read it as more than just an audio file>>: Get the divx codec. It works fine on mine. But not looking quite as nice as all those 150meg Triguns.
<<Are you TRYING to make me say sick jokes?>>: No, I'm trying to imply sick jokes.
SJ> <<Then the next week, the flames began>>: I blame the Puritans for that one.
<<Who cares about either of them when you can have Rei?>>: Who cares about Rei when you can have 20 Reis.
<<Luke Skywalker / Han Solo (over Leia. Tell me THAT doesn't freak you out in retrospect)>>: Not since the Sexy Losers parody.

Metaldemon> <<Physicists saw steaks form, in a completley random occurence, in a large chamber>>: I gotta get me one of those chambers. Free meat.
<<They assume the quark is there (though there is no concrete evidence)>>: We know something is hapening, and since we can't see that small, we might as well call them quarks. As long as the theory keeps predicting reality, I have no problem with it.

Mooncat> <<There is something fascinating about watching men being intimate with each othe>>: But the odd thing is, two women exciting a male follows from biology, but any extra men for a female are superfluous.

Warpmind> I'm closing in on the burning. But I can also fit some NeoGeo roms on the emu CD, but that puts me 38megs over. How do you feel about multiple fighting games from the same series? It might work if I get rid of KoF98, and you'd still get KoF99.

Imzadi> <>: Mostly indeterminate, but generally, you wouldn't want to be there.

Fleur> <<Now I frighten people all the time>>: I should hope so.
<<I'd love to hear the estate agent explaining THAT>>: They won't have to, since it's standard.
<<It's almost a compliment, really, that he thinks that>>: What was it that I thought? I may not have been serious.

I'll get the rest later.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, November 1, 2001 12:18:51 AM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

DPH- To answer your questions about my favorite DBZ character (Robby's is that lame Kullilin guy...) Vegeta is a prince. He was raised from birth being told that he was the best and that he always would be, that with work he would be invincible and that someday, he would be king. And hear something like enough, you start to believe it. Vegeta was almost 30 when Goku beat him, and that was his first defeat EVER... After he went all out and used ever trick he had, he was beaten by a pathetic low class warrior who by all rights should have easily been defeated. Kinda crushing. And remember, he actually outgrew most of that self absorbtion, its the Maijin mark bringing out his worst characteristics...

He calls Goku "Kakkarotto" (the dub version drops the "o" at the end, which whill be interesting when we get to Vegitto...) because that is Goku's Saiyajin name, and Vegeta thinks his human name is stupid. (Incidentally, Raditz is Radish, Kakkarot is Carrot, Vegeta is Vegetable, Nappa is a kind of cabbage. All Saiyajin names are based on vegetables, including Bardock, Paragas, and Broli...)

Vegeta is a LOT more powerful than Dabura. He wasn't exagerating when he said he could defeat him in five minutes.

Goku and Vegeta had both been training for the last 7 years. Goku got to keep his body after he died, and so, kept training. Both Goku and Vegeta are far stronger than Gohan was during the Cell Games. If you pay attention, you'll notice they both have different super Siayajin haircuts, and blue sparks of energy. That shows they've both reached Super Saiyajin level 2, which is what Gohan used to beat Cell. (Gohan can still reach it, but he's gotten so much weaker, its not nearly as effective.) And neither of them has reached their maximum power. I won't say more, lest I spoil you to future events.

Wait, I'm evil, I can spoil all I want! Bwaaa haa haa haa! But I won't. Its more evil to make you wait and wonder. I think...
Robby's Evil Twin Lonny
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:40:06 PM
IP: aca4b9c1.ipt.aol.com

*In*

Well, it looks like I may have more time to waork on my Gathering costume than I first thought...like, a YEAR more. :P *sigh*

DPH: Vegeta calls Gokou "Kakarott" because that was his given Saiyajin name.
Lynati
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:17:18 PM
IP: kcx-ks18a-125.rasserver.net

Rightfully, Robby should get to field this, but I'll just get this in:

DPH> <<<but isn't Vegeta much more powerfull than Deborah?>>> Unless Funimation has struck again with its inane stupidity, that should be "Dabura." While I'm at it, the name Chris Sabat, the voice of Vegeta, is feebly trying to pronounce is "Kakarot."
Entity
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:15:19 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

**DPH decides to turn on quite a few holographic projectors to put ghosts, goblins, and other interesting creatures in the CR.**

Now, if Daphne and Winterwolf would post today, things might be back to the normal levels of insanity.

Nothing can be done to put me on any person's side in an attempted coup. I'll pick the side I want to be on.

**DB/DBZ questions**
I was beginning to think Vegeta might be tempted to use the dragon balls to bring Goku back to life so Vegeta would have someone to fight against. Then, I discover that, deep down, Vegeta believes that he is the center of the universe. Talk about the ego. Explain to me how Vegeta got such an ego.

Why does Vegeta call Goku Cackroff (spelling)?

I'm guessing this, but isn't Vegeta much more powerfull than Deborah?

If Goku can still keep up with Vegeta, even after Vegeta has been training for 7 years and Goku hasn't, doesn't that mean Vegeta has effectively reached his maximum power level a while back or has Vegeta not been training the right way?
**END DB/DBZ questions**

Wilek - How big was that last post of yours compared to Doug's normal posts (not counting the RP part)?

Todd - good point. How many other villains have a really good sidekicks who carry their own weight?

Doug - welcome back.

**DPH looks around and spots an Osma Bin Laden look-alike in the CR. Instantly, a black hole forms under the look-alike and pulls the person in and the black hole disappears.**

Imzadi <<<The majority of people who post here have at least one story in the archives>>: Hmm, I better join that minority.> Ohh, I'm part of that minority. Oh yea, Daniel and I have a bond.

Tim - I disagree. Gargoyles is about presenting an entire reality and dealing with issues. Gargoyles has dealt with cloning, genetic engineering, limitations on artificial intelligence, and even the conspiracies. Take away any one element and the series suffers.

My dad said that anything hot I can stand, he can stand. I guess I'll have to someone around to run a video camera.

I've never had trick-or-treaters come over to my house on Halloween. No, Imzadi, you can't do anything about that.

Tim - hmm. I wonder if we couldn't convince Ralph Nader to ban sugar because it causes tooth decay. Of course, we refer to it by its chemical name.

Hey, didn't animal right's activists tried to convince us to drink beer instead of milk?
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:58:11 PM
IP: max1-8.cwy.cei.net

*shadows peel themselves from a corener of the room and reform into Traveler*

Ahhhh.... Halloween... and the first (nearly) full moon since about 1955 as well.

I feel refreshed.

*sinks back into the shadows*
Traveler
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:15:02 PM
IP: ny-hamburg3a-220.buf.adelphia.net

Ahh, Halloween, how I love it. Its the one day of the year I get to come back from being dead. (Or post as the CR Lawyer Kenny, depending on my mood...) This is of course, not counting all the times I've been resurected or cloned outside of Halloween... Ah but being alive again makes me want to sing!
I am the very model of a modern major evil foe
My twisted mind is sinister, conniving and quite often low
I started my life as an evil clone, It is how I was bred
If you cross me, there is a fee; what is costs is you will be dead.

I am very good at planning fancy plots months in advance
I'll hurt you with my evil fist and then I'll do some song and dance
If you are shocked that I can dance and find this interesting news
I suppose its time I advance and warranted some new reviews...

Wait, I've sung this before, haven't I? Pity... Ah well, since Robby is busy studying for midterms and such (Or maybe I killed him...) I'll post in his place. Since I'm his evil twin, my comments should be along the same lines as his...

Greg- I'll be a ringwraith! Of course, Robby volunteered first, and getting one past him might be tricky...

And by the way, your evil villain rules are pathetic. I suggest going to the Evil Overlord List at
http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html
There are over 200 proper rules listed there...

Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter movie, The One.. I don't care to see either of these films. No, I instead intend to go see Monsters Inc.! Many, many, many times! I'm not only evil, I am insane and depraved as well! While I'm there I think I'll blow spitwads at little children, or tell them I've already seen the movie and characters die at the end, just to make them cry. Bwaaa haaa haaa...

SOROW- Your name has a destinctive quality to it, and the evil villain in me says its a good name, but at the same time, sometimes we need to grow and change... For instance, next year's Halloween, I will no longer be Robby's evil twin Lonny, I will be... Valitinez Alkanella Zihack Shushi Habulheras Gumbigovella Blue Stratevalli Talentrent Pierre Andre Chartenhemos Bonovichi George Doitzel Kaiser the Third. Don't hesitate to call.

Sevairus the second- Robby has said it before, and I'll repeat it... You *NEED* to see Iron Monkey. It has perhaps the greatest fight sequences of all time, and several good bits of humor. If you fail to see it in theaters, no huge loss, its already on video...

Crocadile Hunter the movie? I just bought my advance ticket, I am SO there..
Jackie Chan as Chen Kenichi? Hmm... I shall make it so!

Hmm, being the afficiando that you are of pop culture, can you name the source of the strange people who call out "One of us! One of us!" Hmm?

Xanatos building the castle on top of the skyscraper- Well DUH, he just made the castle out of Gundanium.

Lady Mystic- No fair, I can't qualify for a member profile because I'm dead all year? That sucks...

People entering or leaving New York in "The Mirror"- Greg Weisman explained that one. Once they left city boundaries, they turned back to normal. Puck only had so much power after all...

Todd- The diference between the full version of The Princess Bride and The Necromicon is that people actually believe the full version of The Princess Bride exists, largely du eto the author going to great pains during the book to make it seem like he was cutting material, whereas the Necromicon is a fictional book that most don't believe actually exist. The uncut Princess Bride is one of the 10 books most ofter asked for that in truth does not exist, I have no idea what the other 9 are tho...

Watching porn- Who needs it? Certainley not I, with my 500 luscious slave girls who do all my bidding and meet my every evil and sinister whim...

Xena the musical- I rather liked that one actually, Lucy Lawless had a pretty good singing voice, and the songs were catchy. I don't watch Buffy myself, (Being dead all year can put a crimp on the television schedual) so I can't comment on that...

Wilek- Disney villains having great songs... This is true. But the songs in Mulan were lackluster for the most part. I'm of the opinion that its for the best Shun Yu didn't sing, he was perfectly menacing without a song. He should have won too! If the stupid dragon hadn't gotten ahold of that giant rocket from no where, he would have...

As far as Reboot season 4... Only episode 3 aired last Friday, the minute recap at the start of episode 4 should hopefully catch you up...

Hmm, and I only have three more hours of Halloween to hang around in, I should probably go make the best of them... Farewell until next year! (Unless I find a way to break out of HFIL before then...)
Robby's Evil Twin Lonny
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:11:19 PM
IP: ac95b85e.ipt.aol.com

Double do'h!! wrong link
Yooper
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 09:34:58 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

Do'h, forgot the link.
Yooper
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 09:33:56 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

Done with class for today. My hydrology prof gave us candy. That's probably the only trick or treating I'll be doing this year, but it's a nice way to end my classes for the day. I really should start doing my homework now. While I'm at it, I should clean my room, study for my economic decision analysis exam and print up some resumes to keep on hand. I'll probably still be saying that when I go to bed tonight.

My roommate carved a cool pumpkin. It's got a flag w/ an eagle over it on one side and the Statue of Liberty on the other.

Something occured to me in my professional practice course a few days ago. Exactly when did the gargoyles come to life? On the date of Substantial Completion? (when the building is functional and the Owner can begin moving in, though there might still be quite a bit of construction going on) Or when the castle was absolutely completed, and all the workers were gone? If the last one, what would happen if a chunk of rock fell off the side and rolled into the ocean when they were taking it apart? Would the spell consider the castle complete then? What about all the building stones that have deteriorated over a millenium? What percentage of the original castle had to be above the clouds to break the spell?
As you may have guessed, this is a boring class at times.

Josh>><> Sorry I didn't reply to this sooner. I didn't even see the statement until now. Don't use TGC for any sort of visual reference. The animation is terrible. <<After my first jolt cola, I tried to kill my best friend with a massive iron chair and a golf ball.>> I'd like to hear that story.

Patrick>> <<So I'd postulate that it is not real, but an architectural feature that simply hides the true structure>> I had never thought about that, but you're probably right. Fiberglass, you think? <<plunked atop the tower in one piece like a gaudy afterthought>> I have never been a big fan of how the Aerie was drawn, since it does look like an afterthought. Although, you'd think that they would've had to know about it beforehand to engineer the building properly. It's not _bad_ looking, but it's not Great Architecture, either. It looks better than the Michigan Tech campus, which seems to suffer from SAS. (stupid architect syndrome) The Rosza Center for the Performing Arts, *cough*Stealth Theater*cough* where they thought that aluminum siding would fit the brick building next to it. I'll put up pictures of this building if anyone is actually wants to see what I'm talking about. Not only the architecture, (which won an award!?!) but the fact that it was put up over a perfectly good parking lot. Then they moved the freshman parking to <omnius> Lot R </omnius>, 2.5 miles from campus.

Kyryn>><<The piece of cliff makes sense if you consider the fact that Xanatos also included the dungeons of the castle and the original rookery that was in the cliffs.>> Still doesn't, even then. 5 reasons:

1.) The weight of this hunk of rock would be incredible. That means that the building has to support this huge dead load, in addition to the castle.

2.) How do you get it up there? You can't move it in one piece, since it's too heavy. You can't cut it up. (See reason 3)

3.) As Patrick said, it's a safety hazard. If it's been cut up, the pieces could fall at any time. There's no good way to put them together. You can't use mortar, it's weak in tension (zero is used as it's maximum yield for engineering calculations), and the bottom is going to be in tension from the self weight and the load of the castle. You can't use tie rods because--this is tough to explain without a picture--there's just no good place to attach them to to make it able to support the castle and the rock itself. If it hasn't been cut up...pieces could fall at any time. This is because there could be cracks that developed in the rock from cutting it out, and chunks would be at risk of falling off.

4.) It's unlikely it'd even stay up there. The castle is sitting on it. The load on it would try to deflect the center downward, and it would likely begin to crack and spall off. Or, it would begin to fracture around the edges, where it appears to be thinnest. It would have to be supported in a lot more places than it is to avoid this.

5.) You could just pour a slab up there on top of a steel or concrete support system and rebuild the castle on top of it. To get the dungeons and rookery, you could just put a "hidden floor" underneath the slab on the tower and build these rooms with rock cut from the old Wyvern site. Then put up Patricks false ceiling. Even if the first four were surmountable, this would be such an easy alternative--relatively--that it wouldn't make sense to bother.

Ravyn>><<germ-ridden little things that come to my door ... no, not the mail. >> *laughs* <<I'm a MechE, but I have to take a Civil Engineering course>> I'm a Civil but I've had to take a MechE course. At Michigan Tech, the statics course that the civils take is run by the ME department.

Wilek>><<This is because my power was out for seven hours. >>Dude, that is harsh.
Yooper - [jwprusi@nospam.up.net]
MI
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 09:22:18 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

[Someone in the CR screams, so as to draw attention to the fact that the room's grand mirror has begun to bleed. As the blood runs across the floor, the ground shakes, the wind begins howling like a dying soul, ths statues weep...and then the floor cracks open, releasing a whirling cloud of screaming spectres, streaking about the room, their defiling touch leaving everything and everyone cold and oogy. As the dwellers fight off the bothersome shades, someone notices a greater evil striding up from the pit...it's Wilek, eyes aglow, covered in bloody tatters of shroud, and surrounded by streams of arcane glyphs. As everyone stands agog, Wilek snaps his talons, closing the rift and turning the spectres to little skull and organ shaped candies.] Happy Halloween! ^_^ I haven't actually had any trick or treaters this year, except a couple pranksters dressed as cops. I think it's the impaled screaming corpses. No one appreciates art...

**REBOOT SPOILERS**

First off: THANK YOU GODS!!!!!! 8D 8D 8D I heard about the second coming of Reboot on the day it aired, and I'm still getting the stains off my ceiling. This was one of my favorite shows, and I am so glad it's back. Now if only I can beat its air time into my skull...Fridays at 5, fridays at 5, remember that you idiot...Anyhow, interesting that finally we get to meet Daemon. I was expecting a lot from this new villain. I was expecting her to be mysterious, majestic, regal, and terrifying in her power. I got all that. What I wasn't expecting...was to fall in love. My GODS this woman is adorable. I could listen to that cute little accent all day. ^_^ Hmm...I wonder if she's the real bad guy here; her Amarant Coral-esque high priest seemed so much more outright malevolent... And the situation with Hex is interesting, although I'm a little disappointed that she isn't a full-tilt nutmuffin anymore. Eh, I'll live. Oh, and the situation with Dot's father...he seemed to manifest when MByte's pet null Nybbles joined the cocoon. Now, does anyone remember Megs calling Nybbles "Father" way back in the first or second season...?
Fire Storm> <<Daemon is NOT what I expected!>> Same here. I was kind of expecting something along the lines of Edea or the Borg Queen. Which I kind of got in terms of character design (I love that halo/crown, and the pendulum in her throne room), but her personality...she kind of reminds me of me, when I'm in the kind of mood that causes people to wonder if I'm high.

Oh, and...I didn't see the third and fourth episodes. This is because my power was out for seven hours.
...
<hauls in Mr. Disconnect> Somehow, just killing you would seem...anticlimactic. No matter how slowly, no matter how many times, no matter how creatively, it just would seem inadequate to the magnitude of your crime. So, here's what I've done. See that planet on the viewscreen? There are 99,999 clones of you on it. You're lucky number 100,000. They are all aware of their crime, but only you know that the punishment consists of more than exile. I have placed a neomagnetic scission detonator at each locus of ley energy on the planet's surface. These will ignite the planet's entire network of ley lines into kinetic energy, tearing the planet apart and leaving you and your brothers floating in immortal, frozen, suffocating agony where the planet was, for all eternity. But you, you get the very *special* punishment. You will live among them, but <uses a psionic resonator to implant a posthypnotic suggestion> you will never be able to warn them of the coming apocalypse. You will sit by, helpless, as you all hurtle toward your inevitable fate. <teleports him away> Have fun.

**END**

In other news, remember when I said that my regard for Nintendo was along the lines of Imzy's for Apple, and Sony was my Microsoft? Frell that. Now, MICROSOFT is my Microsoft. Has anyone else had the grave misfortune of holding that piece of schiesse X-Box controller? I did last week at the mall. That is hands down the worst controller that any console has ever had and probably will ever have. Both it's competitors' controllers are so much more comfortable. Trying to reach all the buttons actually HURT my hand. I want the X-Box GONE. NOW.

Metaldemon> <<if you remember, the second-self never was made flesh in Fight Club. The real guy kept reacting properly to his second-self; or would sometimes even punch himself--that's how REAL it was to him. I don't think he actually took flesh besides whenever the real guy became the second-self.>> True. I'm thinking, the shadow worked some illusory effect on the psyche's perceptions. Must have been quite powerful...

Warpmind> <<Well, the recordings mostly show the furniture screaming in terror, quickly followed by pain. Then, of course, there's that unfortunate incident with the turtle, the shoe polish and the nail file to consider...>> um. O_o <<As for the Giger Batmobile... dunno; what're the specs for it?>> None; its appearance was all that was finished before the studio Giger was making it for decided not to use it. :( You can see it at www.giger.com, though. <<no, Wilek, you can't have my Cuddly Cthulhu! }:)>> Frell. Where can I get one? ^_^ <<You are most alike Sauron? Somehow, that's frighteningly unsurprising, and bordering on reassuring... Basically, Sauron is the Big Nasty in the story.>> Ah. And happy birthday! ^_^

Carolynn Marie> <<Eddie impersonates the Nazi SOB: "I can't seem to get this painting right-damn, I will everyone in the world!!">> Hehe...maybe a few anger management classes could have helped. :P <<The best was the whole bit in French, because as I speak it it made so much more sense ;)>> Oh yes. I do speak just enough French to appreciate that bit. "Je suis le presidente de Burundi." ^_^ <<Person: Forgive me Father, for I committed an original sin. I poked a badger with a spoon. Priest: Well, that's certainly original. Uh, lessee, five Hail Mary's and Two Hello Dollies.>> <LOL> I have got to find a DVD of his stuff...<<still wonder if his entire plan was just to get the clan under his control; why throw away billions to have your own personal winged attack dogs?>> [Wilek has an epiphany, then goes into analysis mode.] Why didn't I see it...<<Insurance companies prey on common fears all the time, but a new UK policy takes this a little too far. Under a new Spooksafe policy, the company Ultraviolet will pay out for any death, injury or damage to personal items determined to be caused by a ghost or poltergeist. The policy officially covers the cost of a ghost attack, an encounter with a space alien, and consequences from becoming a werewolf or vampire.>> Interesting...in my line of work, I think I could use that. Aardvark Boy> Hm, I'm in the market for a jester. <<Um, well, it's like, I ... *sigh* No *resigned as he draws a big V on my forehead in lipstick*>> Hm. I would have told him I'd been to some other theater, and that my troupe didn't do or hadn't heard of the purple onion...failing that, I would have simply pulled his head off and used it as a chamber pot. <<In the comics she's completely gone; the Joker actually finds her singing to herself in a locked up basement.>> One of the funniest scenes ever committed to the printed page. "Who's there?" "Land shark!" "Don't want any!" "Fair enough." ...well, *I* laughed. <<Today in the University Center they were selling tickets to the Vagina Monologues>> What is that, the stage adaptation of the movie Chatterbox?

OK, I just got my first (and hopefully last) ever bit of e-mail spam advertisement for a porn site. <sarcasm of sufficient weight and density to spawn a black hole> Yay me. </sarcasm> <grr> The sender was aborr@jakgym.se, to whom it may concern...and if I ever find out who gave them my address, I will skin them with a cheese grater, rub them down with salt, feed them to the pirahna beetles, and then I will actually start hurting them.

Green Baron> <<You're Baptist? I never would have guessed.>> Jes' full of surprises aren't I. ;) <<Think about Attila (the cuddly cat, not the wise and noble King).>> ah. <<"Sex can wait, mast-ur-bate." That is what I call safe sex :)>> I'm somewhat less critical of self-service than of proper sex, if only because of the significantly lessened risks involved. <> I like those, although my taste in wardrobe tends to run more to Sydney Losstarot or Setzer Gabianni. <<Since I don't like the tones of the latest posts, I can find only one solution. I declare martial law.>> I like the way you think.

Moochie> <<Dangit, 'mano, you weren't supposed to post again till this had all been resolved one way or the other. Now I'm feeling all guilty for making a real friend worry....>> Trust me, it isn't your fault. <<I'm not gonna pull a Gloves and dive out the window, if that's what you mean. I'm a little too rational for suicide. On the other hand, I've spent the last five days teetering on the edge of asking Chad to beat the crap out of me, just to see what it'd feel like.>> It's worse than I thought. O_o The danger of self-annihilation impulse is the fact that it isn't conscious, so rationality simply isn't enough to counter it. <<Okay Wilek, you like anime, right? Find Cowboy Bebop NOW. It would appear that one of the characters is a combination of the Joker, the Penguin, Baron Harkonen, and (judging by the way he bounces) flubber. o.O>> Wow. O_o Hm, I've heard it's on Cartoon Network. <<The most fun is when your players can't tell if it's magic or tech>> I'm currently trying to erase that line...<<She's the Sister of the Psycho Guy Who Was Trying To Kill the Cross-dressing Hero>> Cyber City Oedo? <<'Cause it SOUNDED like you were implying that you hadn't read the Lord of The Rings.>> I wasn't implying that, I was outright SAYING it. ;) <<But you're a cool guy, and ALL cool people have read LOTR>> One of these assumptions is faulty. The former, most likely. <<Spent most of the night reminding myself that pouring burning gasoline under their door and smashing in their windows wouldn't be an appropriate responce.>> Nah. Much better to fill their entire digestive systems with black widow spiders. <<Normally, I'd never touch a White Wolf game with a ten foot pole. They really don't have enough detail for my GURPS-biased tastes.>> Actually, that's why I love them--the detail isn't in the mechanics, it's in the storyline, which is massively complex and infestated with political infighting, eldritch horror, and impending apocalypse. It was tailor made for me. 8) I'll probably spend years sorting out the repercussions of the Week Of Nightmares alone...Gods I have to write a WoD fanfic sometime. <<To survive in the atmosphere of this CR, you have to a) refuse to get involved in any truely serious discussion>> That's me all over.

Fire Storm> <> I heard somewhere that all xenomorphs (with the obvious exception of present company) are female? <<Although, Reaper is also a spirit of the undead I call upon whenever I have some souls for him to torment. He likes it... I think. Very hard to tell emotions when you can't see his face. Even still, he couldn't bluff his way out of a paper bag in poker. Which is why he owes me a couple million favors.>> Fascinating...<takes a note> <<Resurection dosn't count. None of my children had ANY part in that movie.>> True--the human DNA in them marks them as a different bloodline, perhaps even a different (if closely related) species. <> Wonder what you lot think MY children would be like. >8) <<"Doctor! What are you doing with that test tube? Watch it! NO!... OH! OH!" ;)>> <instinctively draws a 36-barrelled chaingun and shoots in some random direction, which turns out to have been the doctor> <<SHODAN is GOD. She said so herself!>> She is cool. I really have to return to System Shock 2 sometime...the erasure of my save file kind of scared me off (this applies to a lot of games...FF7 sat unplayed for YEARS because of this). <<Just like me and my "Black Suicide" drink I make.>> Cool name...hm, I bet I could think up interesting names for drinks...<<So here they were, just resting on a planet when BOOM! Here are these colonists! [etc]>> I would...arrange an interview? <<Glad you are still out there pointing out how stupid people out there, one pizza at a time.>> That would be a great motto for a radio show or something of his. ^_^ <<$200 for a weapon in a friggin VIDEO GAME?>> How does one go about this? Step by step? <<It's an aquired taste.>> Heh...my first encounter with it left me gibbering and constantly checking over my shoulder for fat guys who vomit a lot...<<WHY the frell don't they just EXECUTE him?>> Which, as near as I can tell, is exactly what the citizenry of Gotham are asking. The Asylum is notorious for its ineffectual revolving-door policies which are one reason Gotham is so corrupt and dangerous. Day of Blades> [Wilek marvels for a moment, then frantically begins checking his records...] <<Is that including the one involving wires, cybernetics and SHODAN? ;)>> Ho. Lee. FRELL. Harry Potter Sequels> Harry Potter And The Ebon Gate, HP and the Church Of Silence, HP and the Final Harrowing...

Ravyn> <<Okay, do guys really think Chyna's hot? ;)>> Freaks like me do (as far as I can consider anyone 'hot'); don't know about the normals. <<That said, I might take a little break from posting in here... don't have a real reason why, I guess I just feel like I need to take some time off...>> Oh. :( Glad it isn't permanent, hope it isn't long-term. <hugz> And good luck out there with the scary sane people...

DPH> <<Is there a contest going on behind the scenes for biggest current poster in the CR?>> And why didn't anyone tell me? O_o <<Has anyone else had the same problems I have had with UPS dropping packages off WITHOUT getting a signature?>> I wasn't aware it was a problem. O_o <<Sorry, no coups of the CR are allowed unless I'm involved. Even then, You better find some reason to ensure my loyalty.>> <Morden voice> What do you want? <> If it had been anthrax or its ilk, you would have been vaporized at the security horizon. <<Time for . . time travel to prevent Haim Saban from producing Power Rangers.>> He didn't produce it, he just gutted the action sequences from a much better show and spliced them badly into a moronic teen angst drama.

Spacebabie> CANDY!!!! <wallows> <<My brother was acting like a real skanky woman and then ticking off the guys. he told me he started out by posting this "Hi I'm a 72 hooker with a glass eye and a wooden leg. Want to see me stick a cucumber up my butt? Let me first take off my Depends.">> <tries to say something, falls over laughing>

SJ> <<in 1996, they turned him heel. In the world of pro wrestling, it was literally one of the most shocking events ever, and it changed the face of the business (mainly because it led to WCW defeating WWF in the ratings for quite some time). It was huge. To put it in comic book terms, it would be like Superman all of a sudden saying, "Enough of this hero crap", and just becoming an evil tyrant. It was just unheard of. Hogan, as a heel, led the "New World Order" faction (nWo for short) to prominence (the tagging with spraypaint was a signature move of the group), which basically caused WCW to become the number one wrestling promotion in the world. He remained heel for quite some time, until July of 2000, in which he was sort of fired, on live television. He's looking to start his own wrestling promotion now. The ironic thing about Hogan's heel turn is that it's well known in the wrestling community (even casual marks know this) that Hogan, in real life, is just a huge dick. He's as selfish a jackass as they come. So it wasn't a huge stretch to play a bastard on camera.>> Understanding dawns...<> Transcendently so. Wonder if the Horde will be next. <<Cause Disney doesn't look interested in putting out QUALITY programming.>> If I owned Disney, I'd use its animation department to start putting out stuff that would send people screaming from the theater...maybe team up with Dark Castle...<<His Divine Shadow>> I've heard that one of Lexx's later seasons took a significant turn for the better from its softcore porn roots? <<You are conservative and afraid of taking risks.>> Yup. <<You are basically chickensh!t.>> Yup. <<You should kill yourself.>> Probably, but I don't want to, so I'll just kill everyone else. <<The Society will be most displeased with you for posting that link.>> If they really want it under wraps, why haven't they attended to the site? <<Oh, and just to bring back an old reference that confused you, "Niagra Falls! Slowly I turn!", was from the gods of comedy, the Three Stooges..>> Ah. Hm, I've always wondered what their appeal is...never been much into them. Penn & Teller's version, on the other hand...I shall never forget the finale. <<Bastion, I believe, who was the android amalgamation of the prime Sentinel, Master Mold, and the Sentinel from the future, Nimrod, when they both went through the Siege Perilous>> OK, my "There's a whole bunch of cool stuff here that I don't know anything about!" detector just blew out the top of my head and is flying around my room and singing in Yiddish. Last time that happened was when you and Kaioto were bandying the names Brujah and Tzimisce about (I blame you two for my dwindling bookshelf space :P), so I think I'm near something big. Details? 8D <<Sinister, back when he was still human>> <blink> Eh?! I thought he was some manner of alien or extradimensional weirdness? <<I'm so convinced that your mail will be just fine, that I'll open it for you. Without any masks, without any gloves. Hell, I'll open it for you completely naked.>> Hmm...<brandishes a camcorder> Care to make my research budget self-sustaining (or rather, involuntarily funded by hordes of idiots)? <<Which I follow up with your usual replies. Now flavored with garlic and herbs.>> <rapturous> Garlic! <snarfsnarfsnarf!> <<Speaking of comic related materials, WILEK! If you are reading this: Previews. This week's edition. Three words: Brak Action Figure. 4 more words: New Mazinger Z toys. You MUST possess them.>> Ooh. Must take a closer look...<> Bad idea, if only because I'd have an unfair advantage. [Judge: "What...the frell...is he doing with that guy's liver?"] <<it could be like that South Park episode, where the dirty words lose their power.>> I adored that episode...I love watching chilling little revelations like that unfold. <<the Culture and Biology of Gargoyles.>> I have to admit to a compelling interest in that. <<I'm just stupefied that Tim freakin' Burton is able to get such hot women.>> Maybe they respect him for his mind? It certainly seems to be his strong suit. <> Note taken. ^_^ Must see... <> What if they've spent the last ten years in an insane asylum and are now oracular serial killers? <> I have to admit, it appeals to me...I think it's the total and utter disregard for logic. Some of my favorite bits on Python are those that start out as surreal but internally logical skits and then degenerate into random babbling stupidity. <<This just in: The attorney general says you're all in danger.>> I heard about that. I think I'll spend November barricaded in my house. <<That's when I can pull off my true master plan - replacing Greg Weisman as the creative force behind Gargoyles.>> Hey I was gonna do that. :P <<First step: take all of your good friends in this CR, and get involved in horrible flame wars with them.>> When will you get around to me? I've got some great invectives involving Hynerian donkeys to try out. ^_^ <<he's a little bit too sinister to quite label him as that. And he can be VERY nasty.>> Read Elseworlds: League Of Batmen? <<Talia has betrayed her family and is now working for President Luthor. Yes, that's right. DC did an incredibly cool thing, IMO - they had Lex Luthor run for president of the USA, and he WON.>> Wow. O_o Must get a hold of that...<<Perhaps Ravyn and Coyote shall join me in conjuring up a few demons to insure that the Yankees lose tonight. I've got a list of fun STDs that I want to inflict upon Derek Jeter.>> Hmm...Rangda might be able to help with this.

Gside> <> Wouldn't it be all rotten and moldy? >_< <<It's only partially digested food, with various intestinal bacteria.>> Exactly. Eww. <<The plants seem to like it.>> The plants can go frell themselves. We'll synthesize something for them. <<A reference to something utterly bizzare (in and of itself, not nested bizzare), yes.>> Uweeheehee! Don't tease the octopus, kids! (BTW, what is this nested bizarre?) <<Oddly enough, Reinventing Comics has a brief history of the internet.>> Hm. The more I hear of this book, the more I want it...<<anything moving tends to attract attention (instinct: something moving is more likely to kill you than something that doesn't), then there's that whole providing sustenance for the first however long of your life.>> Fine. So why the sexual significance? Just the human psyche's habit of unfairly associating everything with sex? <<One of my roomies, but the character select screen I just found only has 19.>> I heard somewhere that there'll be about 25. Frankly, I don't think we'll ever know for sure until it comes out; they can change the select screen any time between now and then...hm, any truth to the rumour that Ganondorf will be in attendance (Or have I already asked that? I can't remember O_o)? <<Kind of makes me wonder what my first sentence would be. And wilek's would certainly be fun.>> "Some people, upon finding four people's eyeballs impaled on the ends of their fingers, would fret, 'OMG, what have I done?!' Wilek would say, 'Dang, I wanted brown ones this time.'" <<It wasn't porn this time. Transformers the Movie>> Hm. I'd send you my copy if I had a cable modem. <<Another thing I heard, FOAF style: stay away from the malls on the 31st.>> Gods I hope that's a hoax...<<And for all you Tolkien lookups: http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/>> Thankee. ^_^ <<Wilek liked it, you get the Myst III: Exile theme.>> I highly recommend it to everyone, if it's still on offer by the time I post (and if not, I imagine Audiogalaxy has it). :) <<I'm sure Wilek could help me with that.>>...how, exactly? <<He doesn't need to know any. He just needs to grab a random X from somewhere, and do some dicing and regeneration.>> ...am I to understand that you want a gender-reversed version of me for whatever it is you're talking about (which I will have to approve before doing anything)? <<All the new houses have one.>> I didn't need mine, so I converted it into a Gothic chapel. <<Once you try hermaphrodite porn, you never go back.>> Hard to go back once you've clawed out your eyes and stomped on the little suckers with golf cleats. <<Have you checked out Scholck Mercenary recently? It's doing an infestation story from the point of view of the bugs.>> Ooh...must check out. <<And now I work at the Pizza Pizza. One. Two. Three. Four.>> Eh? <<He knows about starships run with engines the size of walnuts, and walnuts run with engines the size of starships.>> Eh, part II?

Imzadi> <<Just when I think I'm gonna spend my day doing something productive, you go and do something like post. So much for that.>> Sorry. O_o <<Fouler than Jerry Falwell?>> I don't think he counts as a 'substance'. <<There is in somethings. For instance, if you can name all five members of ANY boy band, you should be ashamed>> Even if it's because you're gathering information about them for the purpose of hunting them down and tearing out their throats? Every rule has its exception. <<Bah, that's nothing. Aahs in LA is much worse.>> Well, Spencer's has the most messed-up stuff in my area. But then, my area stinks. <<Are they in MP3 format on the CD's themselves? Do I have to do anything complicated to rip them, as is often the case with game soundtracks?>> Ohhh, you only have the GAME CDs. I had thought you were saying that you had the soundtracks and had lost them or something. D'oh. O_o hm. I don't think the music can be ripped from the game discs...You might check audiogalaxy.com; they have everything else. <<Because that's not as much fun as letting go of your logical, thinking side.>> Fun is such a subjective thing. <<Then I won't have to worry about it.>> Because you won't ever have existed. <<Since Adam, I think.>> Like you've met him. :P Besides, you can be a man without being a stupid git. <<I'm starting to wonder if you're really male.>> Physically, yes, and I'm happy with that (it simplifies so much in terms of hygiene), but if stupidity and infantilism are truly crucial to a masculine gender identity (as asserted by such tripe as The Man Show), then I shall be more than happy to consider myself psychologically genderless. <<GARGOYLES.>> Ah. Been wayyy too long since I've watched that...<<Just for that, no country!>> Like it's your decision. ;) <<You mean to say that the first episode didn't clue you in?>> I was naieve back then, more so than now. All I really saw was the giant robots. <<More like INhumanists.>> You say that as if it were a bad thing. Humanity, as it currently is, isn't all it's cracked up to be. <<Windows Media Player won't.>> Will MusicMatch Jukebox work? <<breasts have taken many a man to his doom.>> Behold my breasts and tremble! Violent Spinning Amazon Breasts Of Death Attack! <> Haven't seen Resurrection? <<We're trying to start up The Matrix as a cult classic, in the trend of really crappy movies.>> Tis a pretty sorry cult that only has a half dozen members. ;) <<All for the low low price of>> <Mike the TV voice> 9999.99! <> Huh. In my area, 90% of the stores worth bothering to enter are in malls...<<Everyone wants one of those.>> Silent Hill 2...<drools> I'm starting to think that I'll like the PS2 second only to the Gamecube. (Of course, perhaps that's because I've seen how much worse it can get...as in the X-Box.) <<The thought of my teachers and family finding out anything through this CR scares me.>> OK, this kind of thing is why I treat my true life and my "real" life as separate universes. <looks out at Josh's teacher and gives *that* grin> Well hello Clarice. <<nature *IS* perfect>> Uh huh. If nature weren't such a piece of schiesse, our need for genetic engineering wouldn't be so desperate. We'll go the way of the dinosaurs if we don't fix the things nature did wrong! <<You’re going to die very badly.>> Suck the coffin mushroom now! <<Its not like I'm some sort of turbo slut>> I have to use that name for something... <<I'd be surprised to hear that he knows females IRL ;-)>> Or males, for that matter--RL stinks, so I limit my interactions with it as much as I can. I don't want to catch boring from it. <<What about an insult delivery service!? You call up and have them send Pistoff to your door to tell you what a f*cking moron you are! Its brilliant! We'll sell millions!>> [Wilek has a wonderfully grinchy idea...] <<One, you're confusing me with my son.>> ...riiiight. <<as a structural engineer in training myself, I can assure you that putting a castle on top would turn that building into a pancake.>> With the pathetic backward technology of the real world, yes. But I imagine that a universe that contains advanced defense droids, digital sentiences, particle weapons, nanites, cybermechanics, skyships, etc would also have pretty advanced structural science. (Hm, wasn't 10th century Gargverse technology much more advanced than its RL counterpart? I thought I read somewhere that RL hadn't yet graduated to stone castles in the 10th century...I wonder what caused the Gargverse's acceleration of technological evolution. Long-forgotten contact with aliens? An ancient gargoyle civilization leaving its artifacts and scattered, fallen descendants behind after its dissolution?) <<WTF kind of prize is that?!>> I don't know; it'd be kind of cool for the clan to trip over my severed head while they're getting their coffee or something. <<He thinks that any people I meet in a Gargoyles CR must be nuts.>> ... <<Are they all bad?>> Yup. <<what happens when you perform a transform up the wazoo?>> The proctologists have a good laugh over the freak who got a Soundwave stuck up his <AHEM>. <<Is there a single good reason why he controls all this stuff by himself?>> Doesn't he own the server or something? <<You'd have been thrilled. I was sick.>> Tis but flesh, and whatever the gender, all flesh is alike: frail, chaotic, truly useful only in its capacity as the bridge between the mind and the outside. <> And yet, guys spend their lives in that state...<<A soul could be evil too.>> I've always thought that you *had* to have a soul to be evil...if you don't have a soul, then what are you, a rock or a compact car or a nice gazebo or something? <<Hmmm...I'd have to go with Satan and Gabriel in Piers Anthony's "Incarnations of Immortality" series.>> Ooh...must check out. <<Do it while you sleep.>> I try not to leave my computer unattended. <<Like the glass that includes no supports.>> What if it ain't glass? Accelerated technology, 'member? What if they've figured out how to synthesize transparent metals? Granted, at this point it'd still be expensive, but it's not like that'd be an obstacle for him.

Robby> <> Can I join in? I have a whole bunch of 'em. <<Anyone in here want to have another Jim Noying party?>> I know of a mansion that would be good for it, if the guests don't mind having night terrors. <<Shun Yu was a GREAT villain! He had an awesome design, cool looking weapon, awesome sidekick (whatever bird that was), competant help, didn't break out into song>> That last might not be such a good thing...Disney villains tend to have the best songs (with the singular and absolutely flabbergasting exception of the villain's song from The Nightmare Before Christmas)...

Niamhgold> <<a shoe/egg/water/spaghetti/tennis ball/banana/tackle fight ensued>> And I missed it? Frell, now I can't use my tanker truck full of whipped cream. <<D@mn straight...it's all about playing with the toys and getting bored with them before you even reach the front door ;)>> I try not to do that if the toy in question has lots of little parts.

GXB> <<Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker... uncut, uncensored, exactly as it was meant to be seen.>> Where on the Internet might one acquire that? <<I've got nine rings to give out, who wants to be one of my Ringwraiths?>> What, exactly, does this entail? Kewl powerz? ^_^ <<Scourge is not loyal to Gigatron at all. Unlike Starscream, Scourge is smart enough to bide his time and not make his treachery known.>> Scourge rocks. I don't know what it is about him, but he is so cool. He has this Thailog vibe going. <<You get to die in a TGS story?>> Bring it! 8D <<In the army they give you a medal for killing people; in civilian life yo go to jail for giving them orgasms. Am I missing something?>> He sure is. For one thing, it's kind of hard to spread diseases or add to the population problem by killing someone. <<As a matter of fact I hate the Yankees, many times have I missed my cartoons because they decided to play a game when my shows were on.>> Oh have I tales to tell...most of them ending in a near-Shakespearian body count. <<First and foremost, pick someone evil to admire.>> Indeed. High on my list are Darth Vader, Ursula, Edea, the Borg Queen, Ganondorf, Ulkesh Naranek, Kuja, and any Megatron, and those are just the ones I can think of offhand. <<Second, your personal appearance is important.>> Vitally so. You can't go wrong with dark-colored, flowing, concealing things, and masks can be good if they're sufficiently mysterious and frightening. If you look good in hats, then go for one; the right hat can make all the difference between a good villain look and a *great* one. The look that you are going for amounts to: "Ooh, scary. But, ya know, I can see the appeal." And don't forget the weaponry! (Magical/psionic powers count.) You can't be evil if you can't destroy anything. And remember: with signature weapons, style is very nearly as important as substance. <<You should stop caring about things>> For some personality types, yes, but for myself, I've always preferred the embracement of a relentlessly orderly cause, one which is greatly logical yet tends to disturb people. Which style--orderly or chaotic--to adopt, of course, is greatly dependent upon individual preference, and there are some very good chaotic villains (Kefka, the Joker, the Pack, and Brad Pitt's character from Fight Club fairly pounce to mind). <<If your friend trips and falls, laugh at him.>> I don't know; a polite villain can be *quite* disturbing if done right (think Scorpius). <<you've got to smoke, or at least pretend to>> Um, can I waive this? Can't complete my evil plans if I'm dying of lung cancer. <<Anyone else want to add anything?>> Three important rules: Dignity. Dignity. Dignity. Do not *ever* get your hands dirty when you can assign a lesser to do the scut work for you, unless it's a task you can genuinely enjoy. Also, if you're going for an orderly style of villainy, here's an adage to take to heart: Don't Kill The Messenger. If a courier interrupts something important, assume his message is *more* important. If not, THEN you can put his head on a pike or turn him into a flea or whatever. In general, do treat your henchmen well unless they really frell up; a villain whose men are willing to die for him is just that much more frightening. And make sure to have a prepared yet casual air about you (again, I refer you to Scorpy), especially when destroying something--if you can wreak, say, citywide destruction without much effort, it bothers people to think of what you'd be capable of if you *tried*. <<And you can't fear Hell. Either you don't believe in it, or you know that you'll be running the place within a day>> Or have contacts there, or firmly believe that you're destined for Paradise. This tenet is pretty flexible. Don't sell your soul or otherwise become subservient to a dark power though; being some demon's lackey ill befits a villain. Nothing Hell has to offer is worth your soul.

Entity> <> I don't know...if I like or dislike a movie, I tend not to give a flip what anyone else thinks of it... <<What's everybody's Zodiac sign?>> Hm...from what you've seen of me, what would you guess? ;) <<I'll stop polluting the CR with such astrological ramblings after this. :)>> I don't know, it's pretty interesting. I used to think astrology was all hoo-hah, but then I consulted the Chinese signer that Vashkoda linked to in here, and it was rather chillingly accurate...<<Wouldn't this kind of a fraud be counter-productive for the frauders?>> Which makes me wonder if it is in fact a fraud.

Fleur> <> Um. Is there something unsavory about the construction of dreadlocks that I'm not aware of? I thought they were just braids? O_o <<Man, I wish I knew more about my ancestors. All I know is that I've got ones from all over Europe, and my middle name has been passed along the females for six generations.>> The only thing I know about my ancestors is that I have them, and frankly, I'm not 100% sure of that. I could very well be a genetic experiment gone awry. <> :P Maybe we could work out a regional pact or something...you get all but a week's worth of my sunny days, I get all but a week's worth of your grey days. ^_^ <<we can watch them grow extra limbs while we make the marshmallows ... better than a movie!! >:)>> Hee...maybe we could stuff and mount the most interesting ones and use them as night lights. <<Barney and Britney Spears spawned in your nation.>> Well England birthed the Teletubbies and the Spice Girls. <<Maybe, but I'm not going to anger them. ;)>> good thinking. They vastly outnumber us. <<Animal brains, anyway. Humans on the other hand... I may make a few *choice* exceptions. ;)>> I'd never eat a human brain. I might catch stupid from them.

Mandolin> <<Had I known how insane it truly was, I would have seen it in theaters.>> By all accounts, it doesn't make sense. hehe <<Seriously, though, I liked L&C its first and second seasons>> I have to admit, I liked Jeff Goldblum's (I think) character, Mr. Pitlick or whatever his name was. He's certainly more suited to it than Gilbert Gottfried...

Skippy> <<Emp's New Groove has a cult follwoing at UT? Weird, what next, audience participation?>> Frell, sign me up for a llama costume. (I'm built wrong for Yzma.) <<That movie needs to die in it's well deserved obscurity....>> Obscurity? I thought it was at least as well known as Battlefield Earth, and for the same reason...

Jan> <<No one mistreats the dogs around here unless they want to experience the wrath of Jan.>> Hear here. I have torture toys on discount, BTW. <Panther King voice> Don't make me get out the duct tape again. ;) <<If anyone wants to believe in or use Tarot cards – more power to ya’….. just not under my roof. :)>> I'm only really into them because of the imagery...I like sets of symbols like that for some reason. (Did y'all know that there is a Giger Tarot deck?)

Zath> <> That one's miserable, isn't it? Gah, the giant demon snails... <<Actually, first I got bogged down in school work, and then whenever I did get a free moment to check the CR everyone was always in the middle of one flame war or another, which didn't make me particularly eager to post. Then, I spent most of the summer in West Virginia where I wasn't online very much for various reasons (however, I *did* get to watch Gargoyles for the first time in years :) ). Now I'm back at school and busy again. These days I lurk in here every once in a while, but that's about it.>> Ah. Glad you've got some free time again. ^_^ <<However, when it comes to songs in the show that are the most fun to *watch,* Creation Of Man wins hands down. There's just so much that you miss when you can't see it.>> Cool. Maybe it'll come out on DVD or something. ^_^ <<Wilek, I seem to recall you saying that you like Linda Eder, so I'm guessing that you own the concept recording of Scarlet Pimpernel>> Fraid not. I became acquainted with her in the live and concept versions of Jekyll & Hyde. I've heard bits of the SP concept at Amazon.com, though, and I quite like it. <<Have you ever seen the show or heard either of the later recordings?>> Only the live version recording of SP. I kind of don't have the option of attending any shows. :/ <<Also, is it my imagination or does Home Again sound like it was written specifically for Timedancer?>> Huh. O_o I'll have to listen to that...<<the whole show felt like it was desperately in need of revision.>> Heard the two-disc concept version with Anthony Warlow? It's VERY different, and IMO a lot better except for the instruments, which sound more synthesized or something. <<Speaking of Frank Wildhorn, I'm going to celebrate Halloween by seeing his latest show, Dracula the Musical, in La Jolla.>> A Dracula musical? OOOooOOOOooOOOo...must check Amazon for that. ^_^ <<When Hewitt left Rocky Horror to start rehearsals for Dracula, he was replaced by Terrence Mann, so just imagine Oberon singing "I'm just a sweet transvestite from transsexual Transylvania...">> Hee...

NukesGoBoom> <<None of you remember me>> Me, forget someone with a name like that? :P Welcome back! <> Gods, I've been there. <<Im gonna start the song and EVERYONE (just copy and paste it, lazy people) better sing it !!>> Great idea, but I don't really have a voice for happy songs. I prefer gift giving. ^_^ <hands a very large and twitching package to Warpmind, then looks thoughtfully at LM> What kind of thing is it that you like, exactly...?

Daphne> <<you have no idea who I am.>> I do--welcome back, wordsmith! ^_^

Revel> <<We had to paint landscape and twist it somehow.>> OOOOOooooooOOohhh...<> heehee...I'd want them to be too afraid of the stained glass windows and statuary to even enter my property. ;)

Shadowrider> <<Well, people, it's been a while since the last time I've come here...I hope someone still remembers me.>> Wow, I'm remembering a lot more people than usual today. Welcome back! ^_^

Bonny Garg> <<the nastier details of procreation. Which, by the way, is something else that I think should be mentioned FAR less (if not taken out completely)!!!>> My genetic engineers are working on something...

Aaron> <<At least Mt. St. Helen’s is tangible>>...rendering faith in it, and therefore the worship of it, obsolete. <<You’d love Berserk.>> I have the excellent Dreamcast game...I should have guessed that there was more to the story, though. <<The last time I went in, there was an ep of Classic Trek playing. Somebody asked which ep it was, and I only needed 30 seconds to tell which ep it was, *and* the TNG book spun off from said ep.>> Wow, the only ep I can do that with is Mirror Mirror. <<And then there’s the Joker from the comics, about whom I know nothing.>> Near as I can tell, he's the animated Joker without the burden of S&P. (Is there anyone else who would love to see the Joker get his hands on the Eye of Odin?) <<Thanks for the links, but I was looking for something a little more general.>> Ah. Only one of those I know is Audiogalaxy. <> Only when they're in my control. <<Scrounge around your local comic shops, and see if you can dig up a copy of the Mad Love TPB.>> Ahh. Thankee. ^_^ (Comic shops plural? I wish...) <<For a garg with no interest in sex, you’re a man after my own twisted little heart.>> heh...admittedly, my interest remains entirely aesthetic. Still, I can see where you're coming from. <<That’s good. Can I use it?>> Sure. <<What, the boobs thing? It’s hard-wired into us genetically.>> Not from what I've seen--so far the biggest reason I've found that most guys have 'the boobs thing' (vernacular, yet elegant...I like) is because society tells them they do and they don't have sense enough to question it, so they believe it. <<Right, like we need any help.>> And whose fault is it that humans originally became that way...? <<Y’know, when you have a voice in your head that tells you to do bad things, people call you crazy. When you have a voice that says to be good, people just call it a conscience. Why is that?>> Maybe the former people's consciences are crazy? It'd explain a lot of things I've seen...Of course, it's my belief that everyone has multiple personalities... <<TMI, dude! TMI!>> Eh? <<Is it a Vibrating Sheep of Doom>> Floating Sheep Of Destruction, actually. An inflatable sheep, filled with hydrogen, containing a ballast/RCS/ignition unit slung under it like the gondola of a blimp. The uses are endless.

Harry Potter> Hm. I haven't so much as touched one of the books, but after seeing the trailer to the movie, I'm starting to think that was an error in judgment. I really must pick up the soundtrack; the music kind of reminds me of the excellent Home Alone soundtrack, but with a slightly darker twist...

SOROW> <<feel like I've become a new person in the last few months and I think you guys have seen it to. I don't come in crying anymore. Question is: Do you think my handle is invalid and I should change it with the new me, or will I always be SOROW?>> I don't know; I quite like SOROW. :)

Lady Mystic> <> Lady Arianna and I still e-mail each other when we get time, although for posting, her RL lack-of-time situation seems even more severe than mine. O_o And happy birthday! ^_^

DJ> Welcome back! ^_^ <<On October 10, my mother, Nancy Bruce Johnson, passed away. It was almost exactly one year since she entered the nursing home. Now, at least, she will no longer suffer. I miss her enormously, but I also feel a sense of relief. I can actually start to get on with my life again.>> :( I offer my condolences.

Tim> <<"Gargoyles" should be about gargoyles, not a soap opera of fairies, freaks, conspiracies, and hocus pocus.>> I don't know...the very thing I love about the series is its ability to be taken anywhere and made to do anything.

Brooklyn> Welcome back! ^_^ <<This sight is supposed to be dedicated to Greg's Master Plan>> Not really...it draws on it for inspiration, but not *too* directly.
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 09:05:18 PM
IP: host130.the-cloak.com

How rude of me!

HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE!

And welcome to all new CR posters. To those of you who don't know me, I am Brooklyn. Anyone who has been here for 2 years could tell you that but sadly I have no time to post like I did.

I hope to me all of you. If anyone new or old would like to talk, I use MSN and Yahoo messengers.

mango_11_19@hotmail.com and

brooklyn_11_19@yahoo.com

I look forward to talking to any of you.

See ya!
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 08:48:59 PM
IP: chcgil2-ar4-243-040.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net

Just a few things.

1. We had a treat in poetry class today. One of the students wrote a poem called The Return of Blunt Man and Chronic, dedicated to duh Jay and Silent Bob. He and a friend of his dressed up as Jay and Silent Bob, gave a great performance too.

2. Mandrin Oranges and vanilla pudding=yum

3. Happy Halloween.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 08:40:47 PM
IP: proxy.iad4.netsetter.com

Happy Halloween Everyone,

Well this is the time of year that being a grad student in science can pay off. When people come to my door they are greeted by numerous bubbling vials, glowing liquids... oh yeah, and one mad scientist. It’s amazing what a bit of gel; a lab coat, goggles and a good pair of industrial gloves can do for one's appearance. (The 5kg of dry ice in a wash bin probably helped add to the atmosphere too.)

Anyways I had a chance to read through a bit of the CR and just had to post about the comments on the Princess Bride. This was one of the novels that we studied during my undergrad years. (A few English courses never hurt.) There is a part in the novel where William Goldman indicates that he was forced to edit out a portion of the novel due to contractual problems. He gives an address where you can write to in order to receive the missing parts. Well you should try writing in to the address listed. You do get something back. I won't say what, but it's quite amusing.

Oh yes, and Robby you are absolutely correct. The book is far superior to the movie. (Although the movie has the best sword battle ever!)

Well there’s another knock at the door. Goodnight.... Where’s that beaker.

Yggdrasil - [eng050599@hotmail.com]
Ontario, Canada
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 08:31:19 PM
IP: cr822219-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com

Hi all.

Just poking my head in.
I have a few questions and I was hoping some TGS staffers could clarify some things.

1) This sight is supposed to be dedicated to Greg's Master Plan but, Gargoyles: 2198, New Olympians, and Redemption Squad are nowhere in sight.
2) In The TD episodes that cover the year 2168, where Artus takes over as leader, Samson is the youngest biological child of Broadway and Angela, but we now know that Lancelot takes that spot, and Samson is moved up into the 2158 generation. So I would like to know how TGS plans to make up for this?

Thanks
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 08:11:23 PM
IP: chcgil2-ar4-243-040.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net

HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE!

FS and I had to get supplies for my sister's costume she planned on wearing to work today. We left at 11 pm last night and didn't get home until 2 am. FS and I ate pizza together and enjoyed our time alone. (Everyone else was asleep.) She had to get up at 5 am to shower, do her usual pre-work preparations, and give FS and I time to apply her makeup. (I ended up staying awake all night while FS napped on the couch.) Since she was going as a punk/rock star I applied bright pink, blue and green to her spiked, short hair, added glitter to her face and hair, put hot pink glitter designs on her cheek and arm, and added a lot of jewelry that I already owned to her ensemble. (Thanks to FS for assisting.) She wore it throughout the whole workday and got a lot of compliments. She had originally wanted to go as an ordinary witch but since we didn't have a costume I thought up something easier for us to put together in the short time we had and created something more imaginative in the process! Good thing I thought of it since she thought it was the best costume she had ever worn! :)

Replies...

Mooncat: I'm not certain but I think this solves, in part anyway, the fanfic chat room dilemma: http://pub48.ezboard.com/bwritersrefuge

Warpmind & Becca: Happy Birthday! :)

Warpmind: <<We share birthday? Now there's a surprise... :O>>
I agree. I keep forgetting that. ;)

Thanks for the birthday wishes and congrats from Ravyn, Coyote, Jan, NukesGoBoom, DPH, Gside, Imzadi, Fleur, Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr., SOROW, Carolynn Marie, Spacebabie, Kyryn and anyone else I missed. :)

Coyote: <<Exectution^TM cakes>>
**LM presses the chocolate "bumpy cake" button and waits patiently for the... upcoming mess**

Imzadi: <<Personally I think the demona robot goes better, since it matches FS ;-)>>
I like matching FS (one reason why I use that pic) but I also like variety, so I'm going to continue to use multiple pics. Besides, it's not like we can't spare any. ;)
<<Use the format for my email address...post your name as the first part of your email addy, and then leave the @junk.whatever as the email address. Works like a charm.>>
I really don't see how it works like a charm since the name you post with isn't identical to the name of you email address. The only way that I'd view it as successful is if the posted name was written exactly like the name portion of the email address.
<<That sounds like an oxymoron. As a human, you are biased. Period.>>
Did I say or give the impression that I thought humans weren't biased? Or that I wasn't biased? Generally, I agree with FS: "We all are biased. We are human. Rules and guidlines help us create fairness." Although, achieving fairness and maintaining it is another matter.
<<Doug Elder does NOT get a profile. That would be a privilege to him considering the bullsh*t he's put this CR through.>>
He already explained his wishes concerning submitting his own profile but I'm going to explain what I had originally planned anyway. He gets a profile if he fits the requirements and wishes to submit a profile. I don't think reputation or banishment should dictate whether or not one gets this privilege. This service is a privilege for ANYONE, no matter what his or her current status is with the community.
<<Keep your kinky fantasies to yourself mister>>: And Lady Mystic.>>
**L** Are you asking for FS to keep his kinky fantasies to himself and me or for me to keep my kinky fantasies to myself as well? Or both? ;)
<<Sorry to hear that. I can't imagine what its like to lose a loved one, yet I know that day is creeping up on me.>>
You are even more lucky and privileged than you let on. ;)

Fire Storm: <<The tale of the Mystic Lady>>
Interesting interpretation. I wonder how many people understood what you were talking about and if they believe the realism behind it to be true.

DPH: <<Guys, I will never ever consider smoking. One reason: my mom died of cancer.>>
My mother died of lung cancer caused primarily from smoking. I think smoking is disgusting and wish my father would quit. FS's sister, who is 20 years old, has been smoking (and drinking beer) since she was 14. (She has been drinking hard liquor since she was 16 as well.) His parents are smokers too. The smell it produces on clothing and hair, the horrid breath it causes, the nicotine that builds up on all surfaces within a house... is so disgusting and annoying yet doesn't seem to irritate or concern smokers one bit.

Daniel Johnson: My condolences about your mother. I understand your predicament as I have been in that situation with my mother and my paternal grandmother. **hugs**

Todd Jensen: <<Scooby Gang's bluff>>
I agree with you. I also don't understand how they legally get away with a lot of things tied to Buffy's death like her burial and tomb stone (If I'm correct, you need a stamped death certificate -- but they could have gotten around this.), the gang keeping her house, custodial officers not taking Dawn away, etc. If she had a legitimate grave then that would not only cause suspicion with the demon community but the human community as well. So the only assumption I can think of that would allow for all this is that the gang set up the burial illegally and never registered her death with the county. But then there's still the demon dilemma of which you mentioned...

Ravyn: <>
Cool! :)
<< ready and waiting to hand out candy to the germ-ridden little things that come to my door ... no, not the mail. Kiddie trick-or-treaters! ;)>>
**L**
<<But I'm re-using my pirate costume from my Homecoming parade my senior year of high school ...>>
Interesting story. :)

Maybe one day I'll reply to comments directed to me from the past several weeks, like I had initially intended. If not, it's at least good that I'm keep up with current comments. :)

I'm off to watch the Gargoyles marathon on Toon Disney with FS. Have a nice night! :)
Lady Mystic - [<-- GMC2004 Bid]
Dearborn, MI
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 07:37:53 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Happy Halloween, all! Off to trick or treat with Maleficent-dragon Becca soon. Doubt we'll see the full moon, given that it's probably going to rain.

Patrick > well, now, anyone _can_ write smut ... whether or not it's any good is another story. I could drag out my one and only attempt at painting a landscape to illustrate the point. Looks vaguely like trees, but nobody'd want to hang it on the wall! ; )

Mooncat > I haven't written m/m fanfic either (though that's the next one on the list). Challenging prospect, especially because I've never read any of it either. I don't consider it a failing as a fanfic writer, though. Just something I haven't gotten around to yet ; )

Last minute reminder > the deadline for the next issue of Sabledrake is Friday! Still time to send in stories, articles, art, and reviews!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 07:17:41 PM
IP: 08-168.075.popsite.net

PATRICK - Actually, it's 54 shopping days until Christmas, and 61 until 2002.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 07:17:15 PM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup005.dialsprint.net

Mara > Cool. Hope you can get to a scanner soon... I'm anxious to see those. Thanks for the update. :)

Kyryn > D'oh... you're right. How could I have forgotten about the basement playroom, er, I mean, dungeon. ;)

Josh > Re: "Anyone can write smut" - Yeah... what Mooncat said... put your cards on the table. I wish I had a dime for every time I've heard that... as if writing erotica is any less difficult than writing any other type of fiction. Heck... sometimes it's harder. Just like painting nudes versus painting landscapes.

Mooncat > Happy Unbirthday. ;)

Happy Halloween, everyone. And remember... only 61 more shopping days until Christmas. ;)
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 07:01:31 PM
IP: ac93c5cf.ipt.aol.com

Happy Halloween, everyone! ;)

I am currently dressed up as a pirate, ready and waiting to hand out candy to the germ-ridden little things that come to my door ... no, not the mail. Kiddie trick-or-treaters! ;) Okay, bad joke. ;) But I'm re-using my pirate costume from my Homecoming parade my senior year of high school ... long story short, the seniors from the auto shop got together and dressed up like John Belushi from Animal House and got into the Homecoming parade. One guy's Jeep was even decked out with a skull-and-crossbones flag and everything. Good fun. :) Gotta love the highlights of the year in a small town. :)

Anyway ... replies!

SJ> I will definitely conjure up something, *anything* to help the Yankees not only lose, but be humiliated by my Diamondbacks!!! But then again, we *do* already have Curt Schilling *and* Randy Johnson ... that would be scary enough for me. ;) I agree with you about the silly terrorist "warnings" too ... a little information would be nice. And another scary Twilight Zone-ish sort of thing ... I was playing "Living Dead Girl" on my computer while reading the posts. ;) <<Nobody beats Curt Henning.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I think only Ravyn might have got that joke.>> Know what? I got that joke, Mr. Perfect. ;)

Josh> Good luck with your midterms. <<After my first jolt cola, I tried to kill my best friend with a massive iron chair and a golf ball>> WOW. ;) I do wacky things when I'm on Mountain Dew ... ;)

Doug> Hey. :)

Yooper> I'm a MechE, but I have to take a Civil Engineering course ... so I've had to deal with kips too. ;) Although I think the CivE's just might be the only ones left using those too ... ;)

FS> Ouch! I hope the wisdom teeth thing goes okay ... for that matter, I hope I don't need mine taken out ever. ;)

Coyote> Heya. :) **huggles** <<Is it just me, or does anyone else want to see Michael Jackson and Alien Ant Farm perform "Smooth Criminal" in concert together, just to see AAF upstage Michael playing his own song?>> I wish I knew what you were talking about ... I haven't heard many new songs for a few months ... dern school ... I do listen to country, though! ;) <<Okay, that was weird, but it was *something,* wasn't it?>> It was definitely *something*, my wonderful Q in training ... ;) And I hope your long day at work today goes quickly. :)

And before I leave ... GO ARIZONA!!!!!
Ravyn
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 06:55:07 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Re "Buffy": Anybody besides me have the suspicion that the Watchers Council is likely to at least consider arranging for a fatal accident to befall Faith in prison, so that they can get a new Watcher? (Given some of their past methods and practices, such as the "Slayer's 18th birthday ordeal", it doesn't strike me as all that out-of-character for them).

By the way, a "Buffy" nit for this season that recently occurred to me.

*Danger: potential Season Six "Buffy" spoilers below *

The Scooby Gang, at the beginning of the season, want the demons and vampires in Sunnydale and its environs to believe that Buffy's still alive - hence, the cover-up, such as the Buffybot pretending to be her. But at the same time, they've got a clearly visible tombstone with her name on it marking her grave, smack in a graveyard, one of the places that vampires are most likely to frequent. Now, it's good that they're honoring Buffy and her achievements on her grave, but still, wouldn't that make it difficult to keep up the pose? Any vampire could have gone into that graveyard, spotted the tombstone, and spread the news without any need of a Buffybot malfunction.

* spoilers-of-a-sort end *

Carried out my usual Halloween custom of watching my tape of "Eye of the Beholder". I still enjoy this one every time that I see it.

One thought that did occur to me this time while watching Owen in action: does anybody besides me have the suspicion that there must be a few super-villains and criminal masterminds out there who'd like to try luring Owen away from Xanatos, so that they can have the benefits of his services? I mean, considering how most super-villains usually tend to be lumbered with bungling incompetents for their sidekicks - Owen must stand out as a rare and enviable exception to the rule on account of his considerable ability and efficiency.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 06:50:26 PM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup005.dialsprint.net

Happy Halloween all, even though it doesn't feel like it to me, I already celebrated on Saturday. Still, I AM wearing a dress, the wings Aaron got for me at the Gathering, and carrying Thren. (My katana, Threnody- Song of Mourning)

Guess I'll call myself an Angel of Death and go freak some norm parents.

hehehehe
Halloween.

(BTW, Patrick, your pieces have been done, I need to get to a scanner. Hotmail isn't working for me, so you know what's up. double check if I cashed that check, I don't remember.Don't be mad, Demona's already chewed me out on this. Warpy, the mail is coming once I can get funds enough to mail it out. That is all on the business end.)

*leaves candy and Pinnacle Horny Goat Weed for the room to enjoy*
Mara (my website works again)
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 06:31:28 PM
IP: ac8abb84.ipt.aol.com

Happy Happy Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, Happy Happy Halloween, Silver Shamrock.

**looks around, sees Doug Elder's post** Hey, only on Halloween. They all come out at night.

Just a few replies, before the ghosts and goblins and pesky little snot-nosed brats go out in force.

Perhaps Ravyn and Coyote shall join me in conjuring up a few demons to insure that the Yankees lose tonight. I've got a list of fun STDs that I want to inflict upon Derek Jeter.

NukesGoBoom: <<OMFG! My friend Bobby is going as Osama Binladen for halloween! LOL!!!>> And I hope someone beats him into unconsciousness with a sack of doorknobs. Because he's asking for it. See if he makes it through the night without at least some form of harassment, and not the friendly, funny kind. <<Some of you will probobly not find this funny>> You guessed correctly, young sir. <> No, but you may be assaulted.

Todd: <<Lex Luthor ran for President of the U.S. and won? That definitely doesn't say much for the intelligence of the U.S. electorate in the DC Comics Universe.>> Remember, Luthor has an evil Xanatos thing going on. YOU, the reader, know he's evil, Superman knows he's evil, but the general population of the DC Universe doesn't. To the people of NY, Xanatos was just some eccentric billionaire. In DCU, he might have had a reputation as a ruthless businessman, but they didn't know what asshole he was. Plus, I believe he rigged the ballot. Kind of ironic, given our own past election.

Mooncat: WOW. Someone in this CR who actually admits to watching gay porn (as compared to the dozens of you all who don't. Admit it, that is.) I find women who enjoy porn both fascinating and frightening. But let me just reiterate the old stereotype: lesbian pornography = hot. Homosexual male pornography = NOT hot.

Crawl on me
Sink into me
Die for me
Living Dead Girl
--- Rob Zombie
Sevarius "Hellbilly Deluxe" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 06:25:35 PM
IP: 66-44-67-74.s328.tnt7.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

As for halloween, everyone stop by my house (Windsor, CT). Im handing out FULL size candy bars (Snikers, Mars, 3 Musketeers, Twix, etc). Im totally serious. Mention the word "Gargoyles" and ill give you 2!

Josh- I said that I felt cool"er" than normal. Doesnt mean im not alredy! And yes, stealing stuff that they increased the price on from last year DOES make you cool"er". sorry. Want a Twix?

Everyone- OMFG! My friend Bobby is going as Osama Binladen for halloween! LOL!!! Ive decided as soon as I finish this post im going out to buy one of those plastic Gearge W. Bush masks and wear it while walking next to him. I wasnt planing on going this year, but this will be hilarious. Some of you will probobly not find this funny, but it IS kind of extreme. I wonder if we we'll get arrested. LOL.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 03:58:36 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

Josh --<<Again, not our problem. This is what is important for US to talk about.>>

Did I say it was a problem? I was only mentioning I had to skip a lot of that stuff for times sake. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers.

<<Hold your breath.>>

Hmm.. I'm sensing some hostility here. Are you just against the idea of a fan fic chat room, or what?

<<bah. Anyone can write smut. Even me.>>

Really? Please let me have the links of your smut fic. I'm intrigued. Nice to know it's something everyone can do. I look forward to seeing your work.

Happy Halloween
Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 03:24:37 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

The piece of cliff makes sense if you consider the fact that Xanatos also included the dungeons of the castle and the original rookery that was in the cliffs.

Later!

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 01:43:06 PM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

:: peeks back in ::

That big piece of "rock" hanging underneath the castle makes no engineering sense at all. If it's real, it's useless dead load and a safety hazard as well. So I'd postulate that it is not real, but an architectural feature that simply hides the true structure... a false ceiling for the glassed in area below, meant only to further the misdirection that the castle was ripped from the ground in one piece and plunked atop the tower in one piece like a gaudy afterthought.
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:47:42 PM
IP: dsl081-009-210.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net

:: waves at kathy in passing again :: We seem to keep missing each other. I've been busying outlining... I should have something to leave in your inbox by the end of the week.

Buffy musical episode > Xena survived for a good three or four more seasons after the first musical episode. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing... well, I guess that's your call. ;)

Building the Eyrie > The first thing you really have to do is get some sense of scale. Those columns on the windowed side are probably quite massive, specially fabricated shapes. And for maximum stability, they would bear directly on other columns, all the way down to the foundation. Also, it's easy to overlook the tremendous amount of structural rigidity and support that can be obtained with a well-designed elevator core, providing continuous but hidden support right up the center of the building. And in the case of the Eyrie, we know the elevators run all the way up into the castle.
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:40:59 PM
IP: dsl081-009-210.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net

Addendum to previous post...

Josh>> I forgot I was looking at building this thing as drawn. So I can't ignore the cliff piece in there, even though it makes no sense to have it. How the cliff is even attached to the columns I was talking about earlier is an even bigger can of worms than the columns, tho.
Yooper
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:32:00 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

** Niamhgold enters briefly **

Hey, can't go the day without wishing everyone a Happy Halloween. I'll be my devious self, as usual...perhaps a longer post when time allows ;)

Adios (bwhahahahaha)
Niamhgold
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:34:45 AM
IP: 209.143.81.204

Figured I'd posts a quick reply in this hour slot between classes (No structures today! Whoohoo!)

I think we have a lot of new people since I last delurked. I've been having a busy month or two, and the days seem to run together. I can't believe it's 10th week already. I should be looking at finals next week. The f****** university I'm at changed from 10 week terms to 15 week terms two years ago. I think the 10 weeks were better.

I learned something last week that I think would be useful to all college students: before pulling an all-nighter to finish an assignment, make sure the assignment is actually due the next day.

Josh>><<long time no see>> It has been a while. Couple months? Something like that. <<You're forgetting that the front of Wyvern is completely supported by glass sheets.>> Actually, I don't think that it is. There are columns in there. Click on my name. There are glass sheets *between* the columns, but I don't think they're structural. (There is a better picture, but I can't find the damn thing in my history) <<We should probably assume then that they are the highest possible grade in existence>> The highest possible grade listed in my materials book, which lists common structural steels. <<If it can be made/bought, Xanatos can get it.>> That's just it. I don't think a column this large can be either made or bought. What fabricating plant has the equipment capable of producing it? Of course, it's not actually possible to bring stone gargoyles to life by raising a castle above the clouds, either, so we can probably let this slide. <<hold up a piece of a cliff >> I'm gonna ignore the cliff. Taking a piece of the cliff and putting it up there with the castle makes no f***ing logical sense. <<Use SI, damnit!>> Metric is the tool of Satan. I know my cars fuel efficiency in furlongs per hogshead, and that's the way I like it. Seriously, I don't have a good grasp on exactly what a newton, kg, etc., represents. You tell me that something weighs 200 lbs, I know roughly what I'm dealing with. I have to think about it for a few moments if you were to tell me it's 200 kg. It's mostly because I used English a lot growing up, and know most of the conversions, so I'm not uncomfortable with it. <<You fly them in with a Skycrane. Or two.>> I think that it'd be tough to get them up there with one skycrane (150 tons) and it'd be hard to erect them with two. Possibly, it could be done, but like I said, I don't think you could get them to begin with. <<So now the question becomes, just how big IS Castle Wyvern?>> That's the $64,000 question. We'd need something approximating a floor plan to even begin to guess. <<Like the glass that includes no supports. These beams are effectively only supporting the BACK of the castle>> I think that the back of the castle sits on top of the rear wall of the Aerie. The loads are then distributed onto a beam in the rear wall, which is sitting on columns in the tower itself. The front then, sits on 10 columns with glass between them arrayed around the atrium covered with a slanted glass wall. I'm guessing that these 10 columns are resting on beams that sits on top of the columns in the front and sides of the tower. Since we don't actually have blueprints of the thing, conjecture is all we have. If you care to debate this further, I could sketch up how I think it would be supported by the superstructure and scan it in. I haven't even thought about whether or not the tower could support it. I just looked at a picture of the building, saw those front columns, and thought "Weak Point." Then I did a quick and dirty (and not terribly realistic) analysis of whether or not they could hold it up. Actually, the columns would probably be hollow in the center and filled with concrete, or a different structural shape, but I was lazy and didn't want to take the time to calculate the radius of gyration for a hollow square or for an I-beam or some damn thing.

Yooper - [jwprusi@nospam.up.net]
Houghton, MI
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:51:13 AM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

Happy Halloween!
Imzadi><<I figured out his pattern: World Tour was a
geography lesson, Timedancer would be a history lesson, Pendragon would be an english lesson, and 2198 would be a science
lesson. He's just a glorified school teacher ;-)>>
LOL! That's a great observation.
I have to agree with you on ethics; it is impossible to decide what is objectively moral. I leave that branch of philsophy to others while I sit here in my dark corner, brooding over phenomenological investigations into time and religion. o_O.
And yes, I meant streaks. :)
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:46:08 AM
IP: 129.120.255.222

***Eyes open in a corner of the CR and Kyryn appears out of the shadows.***

Good Hallows to everyone!

Becca,LM and Warpmind> Happy belated birthdays!

Fleur> Congrats on finishing up your exams!

Patrick>Hmmmm. I often had the idea that some of the "leftovers" from the mirror spell would form an interesting base for more gargs in the world, (Also providing an eventual opening for the real gargs to reveal themselves), or they would have reverted when the spell was removed and a heck of a lot of people would have had some interesting "monster" hallucinations. Of course, the spell could also have had an area of effect and simply reverted anyone who left the area or changed anyone who entered it.

Christine> Harry Potter on Mars! ROTFL! Becca has inadvertently provided a much needed laugh.

DPH> White powdery substance....with everything else in this CR that would be a very small worry.

Skippy> They think that you are an alien? LOL! LOL! LOL! ROTFL! Of course, they should meet some of our friends!

Daniel Johnson> Cyberhugs! My deepest condolences on your loss. Give Spunky a scritch behind the ears from me.

Later, All!

***Kyryn opens up a laptop and types a series of glowing letters. The letters grow in brightness and intensity until they obscure her form and she vanishes, leaving the laptop to drop to the floor. The laptop snaps shut, sprouts four legs and wanders off through a conveniently large mousehole.***
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 09:53:30 AM
IP: exofw.aicpa.org

Fleur: You gave me exactly what I wanted. Thank you.
Doug
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 09:01:28 AM
IP: 0-1pool118-115.nas2.austin1.tx.us.da.qwest.net

Re: The calling of Slayers. That dying clause only works the first time. Buffy died (drowned) and Kendra was called. Kendra died (killed by Drucilla) and Faith was called. Faith is currently in a California Correctional Facility for Women. When she dies the next Slayer will be called.
::End Slayer Lore::

That being said ** Minor Spoilers for Buffy and Angel **

I really liked both episodes this week. Willow is headed for a major smackdown soon as she continues to delve into magic with reckless abandon. The Musical looks like it is going to be great fun. However, the clips being used for the promos have the strangest choreography and I hope that in context it comes off a lot better than it has. (I just don't get all that hand waving).

Oh and it's been released that they've actually granted Buffy an extra 8 minutes of airtime for a one time showing. So be sure to have your VCRs primed because you won't see the uncut version again until Buffy comes out on DVD, which in the U.S. anyway won't start happening until January of 2002. Unless they release multiseasons simultaneously, it could be a long wait.

Angel. Poor Wesley. Poor Fred. And next week - Poor Angel. Boy is Cordelia going to read him the riot act.

Enterprise - This show is suffering badly from the Star Trek Spinoff tradition of sucky first season writing. Gah, I hope it gets better soon. I hate watching potentially interesting characters wrecked by stupid storytelling.

Smallville - I can't even bring myself to watch. Some stories just shouldn't be messed with.

Green Baron > Email me a week or so before you hit town and we'll set something up.

Late Happy Birthdays to those that had them.

Cheers!
kathy
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 08:18:33 AM
IP: client114039.atl.mediaone.net

Two men leave a Halloween party and decide to take the shortcut thru the cemetary on their way home.
They get into the cemetary and begin hearing this knocking sound and heavy breathing....
Both become nervous and begin looking around.
They soon find a man chiseling away at a tombstone...

"oh wow! sir, you scared us to death! ummmm... why are you working out here so late at night?"

"the stupid fools misspelled my name!"

*dodges the flying fruits and vegetables being thrown*
Hey! no need to get nasty about things.. it was just a cheesy Halloween joke! ;p~~

*scurries away to work*

Jannie
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 08:07:58 AM
IP: modem25-304.mo-net.com

Happy Halloween, everybody!

SEVARIUS JR. - Lex Luthor ran for President of the U.S. and won? That definitely doesn't say much for the intelligence of the U.S. electorate in the DC Comics Universe.

* ANGEL SPOILERS *

A very creepy episode. So now we know more about the guy that Angel broke out of Hell - and from what I saw of him, I'm not too surprised that he was being kept there. His effects on men were certainly unnerving. I liked the way, though, that he wasn't able to affect Angel - but with Angel pretending for a little while to be affected before proceeding to let Billy have it.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 07:18:15 AM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup245.dialsprint.net

This is where you all start to hate me.... Especially Josh, I think ;)
I'M FINISHED!!!!! DONE!! COMPLETED!! FREEEEEE!!!! NO MORE EXAMS!! NO MORE UNI!!! NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL, FOR FOUR ENTIRE MONTHS!!! *bounces around in absolute, complete joy, albeit sleep-deprived joy, but that just makes the colours brighter*
I did my time - the past three days have each held an exam, all of them Not Nice (but Not Evil either, which is a good thing). I have now, unless I did a HELL of a lot worse than I thought I did, completed my major in Immunology. I have officially survived three years of university, oddly enough, without becoming addicted to coffee (chocolate on the other hand... oh no, wait. I was ALWAYS addicted to that;)) Yea me! Just general yea-ness!! *more bouncing. You get the picture*

Okay, I'll stop being so digustingly gleeful now, and try to make some intelligent replies (or at least as close as I can get to them.. ;))

Mandolin> >Wow. What's that like?< *g* Interesting, in a I-don't-think-I-can-do-it-again kind of way. >Would you believe my friends and I actually tried to do that for Airband our senior year (an annual lip-synch contest that frequently gets off the wall)? We got shot down due to length, unfortunately.< That, I would have liked to have seen. :)

Spacebabie> >Bravo...Well typed.< Thanks! :)

Lain> >(whats with all the ? in some peoples posts?..??.. i KNEW there was a reason why i never posted with apostrophes..)< I ask a lot of questions. It's the scientist in me. That, and I'm about as curious as a cat with the attention span of a goldfish and an infinite amount of lives. ;) Good luck with your sickness - I hope it all turns out well.

Happy Birthday to Becca, Lady Mystic and Warpmind!
Hap-py birth-day to you
Hap-py birth-day to you
Hap-py birth-day dear (deep breath) BeccaandLadyMysticandWarpmind (really fast, nearly passing out at the end)
Hap-py birth-day to you!!

Christine> >But I'm glad it's over because I think I managed to hold off the flu symptoms by sheer will, and am now laid low by cough and sinus woes.< That happens to me every year around exams. I'm expecting to wake up tomorrow to find that germies have started to party in the back of my throat.

Welcome back Shadowrider!

Hello Terrky K. (and I made sure I got it right :)) >. my friends think imma nut case. lol< We get that a lot in here. :)

Entity> >Sag is usually hopelessly out of touch with fashion.< Does it count when you just don't care about fashion? >When he drives, it's usually a frightening experience for the feint of heart.< I'm a pretty conservative driver, actually. It's just that I seem to be a magnet for maniacs who want to hit ME. :) >His hips/thighs are pronounced. He may have a bit of a gut; he's a glutton.< Hmmm. My inner scientist gets all uncomfortably-squirmy about physical characteristics being linked to the stars, simply because there's a lot of different factors involved, like genetics. They kinda fit though, especially the hips one, but I prefer to think that's merely to keep my lower half in proportion with my er, upper half. (It's a girl thing - say we're fat, and we hurt you. ;)) >When he speaks, it's usually a trip; he loves language and using it in different, usually witty ways.< That one fits me and most of the Saggies I know. >He is indecisive and can also be clumsy. He might spend five minutes deliberating on a drink, then spill the drink.He tends to have small hands, and sometimes small feet as well.< *checks* mmmh, not sure. I've got pretty long fingers, actually. >He's hairy.< Where, exactly? ;) >His writing, unlike his speech, can be wordy and boring (heh, what more proof do you need?).< That must mean every scientist on the planet is a Saggitarius. Well, the ones publishing papers, anyway. :)

Daphne> >really? huh. news to me.< Erk. I've embarrased myself, haven't I? I thought Metropolis was New York. Serves me right for picking an example I didn't know enough about. ;)

Jan> >*L* that’s right!! I’m so very computer retarded!< *g* I almost enjoy explaining computer stuff to my dad - it makes me feel like I'm not such a complete dunce, after all. :) >Nicely said and with a tremendous amount of tact ;)< Hey, what do you know? I CAN do it! :) >College kids: I find most college students to be intelligent and most times they present a fresh view about issues and situations. Sometimes we old farts become cynical or become so involved with just *surviving* daily life, that we don’t see the forest for the trees.< Very true. It's really a win-win situation, experience meets a new perspective, when we get past that whole 'I'm older than you, shut up and listen to me/You're too old to know anything' stupidity. :D And those were truely EVIL jokes. :)

Winterwolf> >Thanks for the well wishes, I'm slowly getting there... Wherever there is. O.o j/k< *LOL* Try calling 'Here, home-y, home-y home-y' and see if it comes to YOU. ;) >This past Wednesday we found out Dreamie had strep throat. :(< Give her a get well hug from me.

SJ> >I guess I should have told you that the Wilson Bride really isn't that high.< *LOL* >Instead, you will be treated to a shareware sample of Past Life 2k1, during which you will realize that you are in fact the reincarnation of Barney Rubble of The Flintstones fame. >Y'know, I've realised something. To survive in the atmosphere of this CR, you have to a) refuse to get involved in any truely serious discussion, or b) not have an ounce of respect for anyone else's opinions.< You're right, about the first one at least. Unfortunately 'truely serious discussion' usually involves very personal matters between only a few members of the CR. Experience has taught most of us a very painful lesson in keeping our noses out of other people's business. As for the second one.. I don't know. *shrugs* I'm not going to be flippant, as much as that's my usual track, but I just can't answer this one. Mostly because I don't think you actually WANT an answer, or even agreement. I see steam rising from you, buddy, and I'm not going to stop you from letting it off. :)
BTW, how's your life going? Things getting better?

Fire Storm> >No one ever listens to me! ;)< I'm sorry, what did you say? >:)

Gside> >I'm always up for Mousse. And the desert, too.< *l* >Ah. Such a shame.< Fortunately, I've got past that silliness. Now I frighten people all the time. >All the new houses have one.< I'd love to hear the estate agent explaining THAT. ;)

Dark Prince of Vinyl> >::feels arms::...nope, I still feel like a nut.< *l* >Just like how I said "virgos suffer from..." and then began listing all the positive qualities ;-)< It's all a matter of perspective... >America and France. America and England. America and Iraq. I'm seeing a pattern here.< Barney and Britney Spears spawned in your nation. That's why. ;) >Maybe if they shaved it wouldn't be such a problem.< And stopped acting like they are the only people who can cook. >The kitchen, I think ;-)< Where there's all sorts of fun toys readily at hand... or any other part of the body. ;) >You are SO not my doctor ;-)< Wise choice. >Not really, despite what Gside thinks.< It's almost a compliment, really, that he thinks that. >The opinions of people with poor taste are irrelevant.< Maybe, but I'm not going to anger them. ;) >I guess that rules out eating brains, then.< Animal brains, anyway. Humans on the other hand... I may make a few *choice* exceptions. ;) >I'm not really into this stuff. But I will admit to being a nerd.< And proud of it, dammit! :) >Translation: all those qualities of some other sign apply to him, and not ONE of the qualities that is associated with HIS sign actually applies t him.< Ah, now I understand. >That is a difficult decision.< It is. I think it will have to be G2k3, to be honest, but I AM going to get to one. >Who says I don't think that?< Please, don't tell me that. >I'm always in the mood for slap-stick comedy.< Except if I'm your doctor. :) >That explains a lot.< Most people start backing up after realising that. >In theory, the CR has infinite space, so in theory it could hold even my ego. Hell, it fits mine alongside SJ's.< *LOL* >God, if only I'd known. I wouldn't have warned anyone, cuz no one would believe me...but the fortunes I'd reap...< It certainly would have helped in your bid to take over the world. >This is not the place!< Nowhere is the place, but I thought I'd try it anyway. >Yeah, who do you think staffs tech support firms?< College students needing money.

*grins* I just had to go read 'Fox in Socks' to my younger cousin. I've decided Dr Suess had a deep hatred for reading aloud. My tongue hurts.

Tim> >What lens would you use?< *L* >Greg Weiman did an overall great job up the "The Journey."< In Greg's defence, 'The Journey' was the only episode in the Goliath Chronicals that he was actually involved in. I think (but don't quote me) Disney kicked him out after that. That may be a reason why so much of the potential wasn't realised.

Green Baron> >Its something I love doing. Just oen littel thing can change everything.< Something my creativity daemons love. :) >It also failed back in 1914. It worked during the Cold War, though. I think teh Middle east woudl be better off if they fought commercial wars over getting tourists to visit the Cradle of the Western Civilization they despise. Make Money, not War. Peace, Love, and Capitalism.< Apparantly, greed is good. ;)

Jen 'Crzydemona'> >Check this fun out... my ex-husband is trying to tell the courts I worship DEMONS since my screen name is "CrzyDemona"< Sounds like your ex has undergone some sort of brain-removal operation recently. :)

Welcome back Yggdrasil! >It’s become impossible to do anything with a BSc aside from becoming a sales rep for a Pharm company< THAT is the biggest problem in the world today. We should be worshipped! :)

Aaron> >Pest: Hey, happens to me all the time.< *L* >Have I missed a lot since I got behind on TGS, or is this from one of your fics?< Neither. Just a random thing my brain spat up as an example. Although... :)

Eyrie/Aerie> I've wondered about this for ages, actually. I checked a couple of dictionaries, and in the newer ones, it's Eyrie, meaning Eagle's nest and other such funness, but in my incredibly old dictionary, it's got Aerie and Eyrie, both meaning the same thing. I think this is one of the few words in the Gargoyles universe that can be spelt either way. It's weird, but not bad. Especially compared to spellings like 'Thasatos', 'Elise/eliza/Alisa' and even 'Pock'. ;)

Daniel Johnson> I'm so sorry to hear about your mother. My sympathies.

Doug> At least you're actually using your 'own' name. It's progress, of a sort. >"A former poster who became fed up with all the room's bullshit, both real and imagined, and left, but nevertheless transformed into a lurker because despite his bad experiences he could never fully tear himself away from the CR."< There are so many things I could say to this, but it's just due to the smartarse in me going into hysterics, not because I actually care. So I'm not going to say any of them, because that's exactly what you want, and frankly, I no longer think you're worth it.

Just a general enquiry, and I'm apologising in advance for the really crap explanation - I need some sort of database-type program, with a search function. The best type would be where I can put the details in something like a form, then try to match it to those forms already present in the database. Is there any either extremely cheap or free programs that could do that, or any way I could mangle something present in a windows system to do it? I'm afraid my programming experience is limited to writing basic C++ programs, I'm computer clueless, and at the moment, I'm half brain-dead from lack of sleep and over-study, so I could use any advice you can offer. Why do I need this? I've got a bit of an idea (which will hopefully benefit the fandom in a small way), but before I say anything more about it, I need to know if I can actually do it. No sense in talking about something I can't pull off.

And you know what I'm going to do now, guys? I'm going to go to bed, and when I wake up, I'm going to do... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! YIPPIEE!! *springs off*

TTFN!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 07:04:22 AM
IP: proxy2.mel.pacific.net.au

Okay, I officially hate this crap.

Its not enough that I've got midterms. None of my professors could care less that every OTHER professor thinks the same weeks are a great time to have a midterm. Its great that they're a little more spaced out, but still not horribly useful. I have 3 midterms in 7 days, followed by a 4th a little later. But my profs were kind enough to keep the work piled on, so I still have all the assignments I'd normally have.

Not only do I have a midterm the day after Halloween, preventing me from going out tomorrow night, but I still have my 4 nasty assignments due (thankfully, 3 are done, but its cost me massive study time).

Of course, this post isn't helping me study either.

Next week is worse. In addition to two midterms, I've got a lab, two quizzes, and 6 assignments. I'm gonna die. If I'm lucky.

But there is some good news: my iBook shipped. Barring major complications, I'll have it by the end of this week/beginning of next week.

Today wasn't too pleasant despite my lack of classes. I had to spend my lunch break working on my mechanics homework so that it'll be done by Friday, and I had to do my dynamics homework too. All that BEFORE I started to study.

Tomorrow I do nothing but study. Hopefully I don't fry my brain. And if I do...oh well. It won't be the first time.

I saw an ep of TGC last night, and I noticed that there is no support for the castle in the FRONT of the Eyrie (where the curved glass shape is). That means the only supports are in the back. Patrick, care to explain how THAT is possible?

replies

Aris: <<whenever I started speaking about some off-topic matter like Mythology>>: No one's busted me yet for only talking about Macs to Jim R.

Todd: <<they were considered too scholarly>>: Right, and garg fans just aren't intelligent enough to handle that.

David G: <<Struck by lightning bolt. Unimpressed. Combs hair back down and adjusts shirt cuffs>>: I do the same thing. <>: While it can help make you a villian, it also makes you look stupid.

Greg X: <<Nice responses>>: You know I'm your best competition for villiany. <>: I disagree. Since second-hand smoke causes cancer, it would be stupid for YOU to try to get other people addicted to cigarettes. Now crack, on the other hand...

DPH: <>: Doesn't that require you to be perceived as evil? <<declaring thermonuclear war against my dad>>: I did that last year...it wasn't pretty. But I did win. <>: Good for you. Smoking sucks. <>: Probably because its his fault. <<All evil people have to the motivation: I don't have it>>: Not necessarily. I didn't have my driving goal of world domination when I first became evil. I just was.

Patrick Toman: <<everyone knows that the only mark of being truly evil is having a secret lair, a pet kitty, and a rotating chair>>: Oh come on. I've got a secret lair, a pet kitty, and I'm sitting in a rotating chair right now...you trying to tell me I've already acheived villianhood?

Entity: <<What's up with inhaling sheer smoke for no purpose?>>: But it looks so cool! NOT!

Mooncat: <<if I mention that, would it still be a secret?>>: As long as you don't tell us where it is. That's what makes it "secret". <<for a room that has the word Gargoyles in the title, I don't think even 50% of the comments here as being gargoyle related>>: We get to be fast friends in here. And we can't all be online at once to talk to each other in real time, especially those of us that live across the planet. <<Which is cool, but since I'm often pressed for time, I *have* to skim or ignore a lot of those kinds of posts>>: Again, not our problem. This is what is important for US to talk about. <>: Hold your breath. <>: bah. Anyone can write smut. Even me.

Queen of Pain: <>: I know your pain. I, too, am tone deaf. Doesn't stop me though ;-) <>: We're mean!? <<The majority of people who post here have at least one story in the archives>>: Hmm, I better join that minority. <<What about REAL evil people like Mike Eisner, Bill Gates and the president of the WB?>>: Bill is the only one of those I accept as evil. The other two are just stupid. And if we call stupid people evil, then we degrade the truly brilliant evil. <<They don’t call it the armpit of America for nothing>>: So what's the deoderant of America? <>: What happens when America gets aroused? <<Nobody is mentioning another character that fits in with those two…Angelus aka Angel sans soul>>: I don't think lack of a soul is relevant. Since the existence of a soul itself is in question, you can't really say that someone having or not having one makes them evil. A soul-less person could just as well be an automaton as a psychopath. A soul could be evil too.

Nukes: <>: Sorry to inform you, but stealing milk does not make you cool. <<someone say something really intersting to I can reply to it>>: something really interesting.

Taleweaver: <<You just need a truly maniacal laugh and unstable personality>>: Don't have the first. The second...well, just ask my best friend. <<Not much has changed in the fandom since The Gathering and the last issue of Avalon Mists>>: Not much EVER changes in the fandom...the show was cancelled 5 years ago! <<In all of sci-fi and fantasy, who has had the best rivalry>>: Hmmm...I'd have to go with Satan and Gabriel in Piers Anthony's "Incarnations of Immortality" series.

Coyote: <<does anyone else want to see Michael Jackson and Alien Ant Farm perform "Smooth Criminal" in concert together, just to see AAF upstage Michael playing his own song?>>: Oh HELL yes. I love that song. <<sports rivalries up the wazoo>>: I keep hearing about this "wazoo". Where is it? <<Jeannie's been turning to Logan to get some affection as of late>>: Chika bow bow! <<Demona is jealous of Elisa's closeness to her ex-mate, and it fuels her rage even beyond her hatred for all humanity>>: Personally, I'd just be pissed that some scrawny human chick was always able to out-fight me. I don't think it has anything to do with jealousy. All Demona had to do was NOT be a psychopath and Goliath would have been hers ;-) <<this is one of the best films ever made>>: Period. Top Gun ROCKS! <<Yet at the end, it's Maverick who scores the big victory in the dogfight>>; HARDLY! Iceman manages to stay flying against 5 jets. That's FAR more impressive than Maverick coming to his aide.

Daniel Johnson: <<Who has dared to speak my name? Who has summoned me from the abyss>>: Hey I said it several times, you didn't come back for ME! BTW, I'm getting a new toy 8-) <<my mother, Nancy Bruce Johnson, passed away>>: Sorry to hear that. I can't imagine what its like to lose a loved one, yet I know that day is creeping up on me. <>: This is good. Then you won't resent her leaving you. <<Just me in this big old house>>: Hmmm...I'd give ANYTHING to have my family's property to myself.

Skippy: <<Anyone else find this as ironic as I do?>>: Wow, and I thought WE were a bunch of losers.

Fire Storm: <>: Bah. After my first jolt cola, I tried to kill my best friend with a massive iron chair and a golf ball. <<Just how I feel when I come home from work every day>>: If I hadn't spent my time working FROM home, I might have felt the same way. <>: Why? Hot tip: after wisdom teeth surgery, get VICODIN! <<not like I actually ENJOY solid foods>>: Just use vicodin to sleep for several days, you won't even notice you're hungry. I speak from personal experience. <<Martian life on Harry Potter>>: Next in the "Species" series? <<too much disk space and too much processor hit>>: Do it while you sleep. Are you doing something MORE important? No, SETI is NOT more important. Neither is RC5. <>: 1) those don't get indexed. This is a text index. 2) that's not very much, I have 60 GB. <<maybe the building had a strong and large central spire>>: I didn't see one. Did you? <<The falling of the Eyrie building>>: A demolition expert's dream. <<getting them is the hard part>>: So true. <>: I am SO jealous. All of the girls I date seem to fall in love with my roommate, so they still call the apartment, only asking to talk to him. And they often bother me for months after I tell them to f*ck off. <<it is a regulated building material>>: Bah. You're just not trying hard enough. <<His server. His code. His rules.>>: Like I said, a GOOD reason? <<"Equality">>: Which one was that? <<it's SO far away>>: No excuse. <<she is MY woman>>: Despite the fact that in the original picture, the two are trying to blast the crap out of each other. <<Biased, eh>>: Yeah, sure. I am a villian, after all. <<from his POV if nothing else>>: Does Kit get a profile too? <<Are you TRYING to make me say sick jokes?>>: Do we need to try?! <<Harry Potter's first date...dreaded Chick Flick>>: "Harry Potter gets lucky" <<email addy>>: I see its backward. Cool trick!

Sorow: <<LOL! If you want to>>: Don't tempt me...

Sevarius Jr: <<my inherent starpower would immediately make it a success>>: What is it now? <<He'll be fetching my coffee before I'm done with him>>: Does he know that? <<Ever notice how I have this odd power to make people show up in the CR, just by mentioning their name>>: No. <<You'd have thought I just asked if I could rape your mothers>>: Maybe they got offended when you actually DID rape their mothers. <<Act like me>>: Its not helping me. <<First step: take all of your good friends in this CR, and get involved in horrible flame wars with them>>: On their side or against their side? <<That's oddly arousing>>: Oh dear... <<comedy doesn't even faze me anymore unless it has a AIDS joke thrown in>>: You don't laugh at George Carlin? <<Talia has betrayed her family and is now working for President Luthor>>: Sweet! <<Lex Luthor run for president of the USA, and he WON>>: That would never happen in real life, but that's hardly important. <>: The dopes. Without them she wouldn't be around. I applaud anyone who finds a way to take money from stupid people, so long as they don't bother me to do it. <<They have been. I call them family>>: LOL! <<Hey, did you just admit to watching porn? GAY porn at that>>: I think she did. <<Is it wrong that I just, for once, want Wolverine to cut the crap and just punk out Cyclops>>: Every time I see the cartoon. <>: Iago and Macbeth were in High Noon. So we know THEY'RE straight. Maybe THAT's Goliath's problem... <<Top Gun = Homosexual softcore porn with airplanes>>: I resent that. I fast forward through the bar scenes ;-) Show me the jets. <<Buffy / Faith>>: MMMMMM...faith... <<She's good and anorexic, just like I likes them>>: I hear that. <<major activity in the Magic Box>>: Anya's magic box? been there ;-) <<spits up pythons during the process>>: Dude, she deep throats snakes! <<because YOU, the fans, demanded it!>>: I did no such thing! I refuse to be held responsible for this. <<You wanna bang Buffy, build a new toy>>: FS GET RIGHT ON THIS! <<Michelle Trachtenberg makeout on screen>>: Ugh god no thank you. <>: Oh great...bad to mangle with relationships that way. <<Shouldn't we see ANOTHER slayer pop up real soon>>: Mmmm...faith.... <>: Just like every other show on WB. <<what? Athletes, bad at academics?>>: I think they call that reality. <<Lex's swinging bachelor pad>>: I have got to see this show. <<outside of the p.o.a. that is Kristin Kreuk>>: I have got to see this show. <<she's working for Starbucks>>: Nice! <<It's not just me! There are dicks everywhere>>: Even as far as California. And France. <<it's okay when you look like you do Clark. The fact that you're not Mr. Star Athlete won't hurt your chances of picking up the ladies, pretty boy>>: Bastard.

Tim: <<dihydrogen monoxide, is used in nuclear submarines and is present in acid rain>>: NO! Not...dihydrogen monoxide...not...WATER! <<just *who* was it in here that voted for Nader>>: The party being dumb has nothing to say about the representative for president. And I did it more to support multi-party participation in politics than for any other reason. <>: You mean besides the sheer un-reality of a babe picking the fat guy? <<If he had his way, the series and any spin-off would have such a influx of Athurian legends, consiracies, time travel, and a plethora of other forms of comic book-esque confusion>>: I figured out his pattern: World Tour was a geography lesson, Timedancer would be a history lesson, Pendragon would be an english lesson, and 2198 would be a science lesson. He's just a glorified school teacher ;-) <,"Gargoyles" should be about gargoyles, not a soap opera of fairies, freaks, conspiracies, and hocus pocus>>: I don't think the story makes sense without magic. It could probably do without the illuminati, but I think the 3rd race is important.

Metaldemon: <>: That's realistic ;-) <<I'm sure if Ralph Nader (who I didn't vote for) was put to the test, he would have caught it right away>>: I wouldn't bet on it. <<to say that philsophy is a waste of time shows, at least to me, that one obviously didn't give it a shot>>: I gave philosophy as much time as I could willingly contribute to a subject outside my major. <<Philsophy just isn't ontology, but also politcs, law, ethics>>: I took ethics last semester. Another joke. <<That means a bunch of poeple wated time by coming up with ideas of freedom, wasted even more time by distributing them, wasted other poeple's time by having others read their ideas, and the reader's in turn wasted time by applying this big joke of philosophical ideas to form a country called America.>>: No. The waste of time is in arguing over whether or not morality exists. Or describing the scientific process for an entire semester. This questions are a waste of time. They have no points. <<Quarks have never actually been seen, only their effects have>>: The effects of a discussion on the existence of objective morality DON'T EXIST. So the discussion is a moot point. It doesn't matter what the basis/reasoning for ethics are. We aren't reasonable creatures. Just because we decide that ethics aren't justifiable doesn't mean we'll stop having them. <<Physicists saw steaks form, in a completley random occurence, in a large chamber>>: Steaks form in chambers? You mean streaks, right? ;-) <<These theories are largley formed out of pure assumption>>: well, as they said in star trek 6: "No proof. Only an theory which happens to fit the facts". The nice thing about things like string theory, the big bang, quarks, etc, is that they generalize to explain what happens in other areas of physics. This lends more credence to their validity.

Yooper: Hey dude, long time no see. <>: Ah, a fellow student ;-) <<Let's look at the 10 columns on the front>>: You're forgetting that the front of Wyvern is completely supported by glass sheets. <<You can't actually get solid steel columns in this grade>>: We should probably assume then that they are the highest possible grade in existence, whether or not they can be acquired. If it can be made/bought, Xanatos can get it. <<30.1 ksi>>: That's only 15 tons/sq in, right? Do you think that'd be enough to hold up a piece of a cliff and a massive solid stone fortress? <>: Ignore them. <<Let's start with the fact that I used units that make my MechE roommate look at me like I'm on heroin>>: Use SI, damnit! <>: And why we do is far beyond me. <<How about the fact that I didn't actually draw any conclusions>>: that was pretty obnoxious, yes. <<Just looking at them, they're probably in the neighborhood of 100 feet>>: Sounds like a reasonable guess. <<How do you move ten 100' piece of steel that weigh 307000 lbs each down the streets of Manhatten?>>: You don't. You fly them in with a Skycrane. Or two. <<27,100,000 lbs>>: So now the question becomes, just how big IS Castle Wyvern? <<There are other points that are probably weaker>>: Like the glass that includes no supports. These beams are effectively only supporting the BACK of the castle. This would make sense if the back was many, many times heavier tan the front. Its heavier, but not that much heavier. Nevermind that these 100-foot beams would have to have many, many cross-beams between them to help support (would you make a skyscraper out of just 1 really tall beam in each corner? I don't think so!)...none of which are present in the building. If you could MAKE beams that tall, they'd still buckle.

And now I'm off to sleep, having wasted a metric buttload (not just a unit of measurement for CivE's!) of time.

In view of the fact that God limited the intelligence of man, is seems unfair that He did not also limit his stupidity.
-Konrad Adenauer

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 03:17:20 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-206.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Back briefly to address a few issues. Yes, I am still reading the room. I continue to find the opinions of the people in here and their expressions, SJ's especially, so damn interesting I don't think I will ever be able to fully tear myself away.

Lady Mystic: I am still a Gargoyles fan. I will always be one. Just not a member of the fandom. I'm never attending another Gathering, never writing another story, never even taking part in the fandom except when I feel I should, like now. As for a profile (this is for you too, Imzadi), thanks for the offer, but I'd prefer not to have one. If anyone asks about me, I'm sure you all will be able to fill them in adequately on who I am. Or if something must be said, let it be "A former poster who became fed up with all the room's bullshit, both real and imagined, and left, but nevertheless transformed into a lurker because despite his bad experiences he could never fully tear himself away from the CR." Or something to that effect. Frankly I don't care, I'd much rather be forgotten entirely in here. Of course since that's not possible...

GXB: If you'd have me, I'd gladly be a Ringwraith. But if not, well, there is another evil character in the LOTR saga who always fascinated me. <mumbles "My precious, my precious..." and grins>

Angel: Best Episode so far this season last night. I applaud in the extreme what they are doing with Cordelia. And whatever organ Fred is of the team, it's a lot cooler than a cross between the spleen and the pancreas. :)

Everyone: This is not a return, this is just brief comments on a few topics. Hopefully I will never feel the need to post again. Say to and about me what you will, I don't care.

I'm gone now. Bye. <strolls out, humming "To Each His Kitainia" (cyber-cookie to whoever guesses what song I'm filking)>
Doug Elder
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 03:02:13 AM
IP: 63.232.50.110

*In*

Emambu: Yer prolly lurking about out there somewhere...I know you be busy, but, go check yer email. ^_^

*stumbles out, to bed. No, for REAL this time. Scout's honor.*
Lynati Kshudra
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 02:18:39 AM
IP: 207.94.232.80

I apologize to the room for my earlier post. I was trying to be a wiseass, and ended up just being an ass.

I'd let it die, but the last one exceeded the bounds of courtesy, with all the jargon. I'll ride this horse a little father, since I figure I at least owe it to people to *complete* my posts on a topic, even if no one cares about the topic.

***BORING STUFF***
Let's start with the fact that I used units that make my MechE roommate look at me like I'm on heroin:
"Ksi" is kilopounds (kips) per square inch. I don't think anyone but civil engineers use these anymore.

Wasn't clear about what I was assuming:
I just used the straight sections, not the curved sections on top. Also, I assumed the columns are square and solid through the cross section. (The last one is *really* unreasonable, given the likely dimensions)

How about the fact that I didn't actually draw any conclusions, and was technical to the point of rudeness:
Let's pick it up from the 30.1 ksi part. This means that a column with a cross sectional area of 1 square inch can hold 30.1 kips, or 30100 pounds. Now, I assumed that the columns were steel, and were a solid square with one side that was 1/40th of the column's length. (2x2x80 pixels) If someone has an idea what the actual length and width of these things is, in feet, I could actually calculate the load far more accurately than I'm going to do below. Just looking at them, they're probably in the neighborhood of 100 feet. They probably couldn't even be fabricated, and even if they could, couldn't be moved to the site. (How do you move ten 100' piece of steel that weigh 307000 lbs each down the streets of Manhatten?) Going from the 100 foot wild @$$ guess, the column's width is 100/40=2.5 ft. This means that the cross sectional area is 2.5*2.5*144=900 in^2, so each column can hold 900*30.1=27090 kips, or about 27,100,000 lbs.

This means that I was probably wrong about the columns buckling under the assumptions I made. (The assumptions are a whole lot more unreasonable than I first thought, however) Since the weight of just the front of the castle is supported by 10 of these, a 2.5 x 2.5 x 80 ft column could probably hold it up. There are other points that are probably weaker.
***END BORING STUFF***

Yooper
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 02:12:37 AM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

SJ: <<That's when I can pull off my true master plan - replacing Greg Weisman as the creative force behind Gargoyles>> To be Honest, I wouldn't be too disapointed. Greg Weiman did an overall great job up the "The Journey." In retrospect, It's probably a good thing he got cut off. I'm not saying that I loved "The Goliath Cronicles" But the Overall premise was pretty good but it was so very badly mishandled. But if you have ever peeped into the station 8 CR or checked the "Ask Greg" archives, you're familiar with his "Master Plan." Hell, I suspected things were turning south when Angela and Broadway got together. (Don't get me started on this...)

Talk about your hidden miracles. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the show get back on the air with him as a producer, just not as the primary creative force behind the series.

If he had his way, the series and any spin-off would have such a influx of Athurian legends, consiracies, time travel, and a plethora of other forms of comic book-esque confusion.

Remeber when there was the one "X-men" comic book? Now you have to subscribe to 50 or so Marvel comic books just to keep track of what's going on! They don't even have just the "X-Men" anymore. Now they also have THE UNCANNY X-MEN and X-MEN: THE HIDDEN YEARS, and X-MEN UNLIMITED among others. I just collect DEADPOOL these days becuase it's largely self contained and often lampoons many of these comic cliche's. I'm sick of buying issues of WOLVERINE where Logan at the end is sitting at a bar with Nick Fury drinking beer, then buy the next issue where I find Logan on Genosha surrounded by sentinals, and then having to buy an issue of THE PUNISHER just to find out how the hell he got there!

The occasional clone, conspiracy, and mythical creature is fine, but only in moderation. "Gargoyles" should be about gargoyles, not a soap opera of fairies, freaks, conspiracies, and hocus pocus.

Think about it, folks...

GARGOYLES... A race of noble, extraordinary creatures who exist in our world. A world of anger, fear, hope, disire, passion, intelligence, stupidity, beauty, horror, hate, and love.

And if you can't make intelligent and meaningful stories with that, the Series is better off dead.
Tim
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 01:51:18 AM
IP: wsc003.wsc.edu

SJ -- >>Hey, did you just admit to watching porn? GAY porn at that?<<

Certainment! There is something fascinating about watching men being intimate with each other. Especially good looking ones. *^_~*

It is not top of my viewing list, but I've watched more than a few. Some of my best friends are slash writers (and yes, they are all female) and are postively addicted to male/male action. You should read some of the things these girls write... yikes!

So, Gay (male) Porn, I don't mind watching. But it's not my favorite flavor of erotica.

I don't write male/male slash myself. My great failing as a fan fic writer. Ah well. I do have some small talent for other kinds of romantic/erotic fiction though. I prefer to write in the NC-17 field. It's just more fun that way.

Speaking of which, I have to go finish a story I'm working on now.

>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 01:44:59 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Nukes>><<say something interesting>>
I'll throw in my $0.002(sic) of the Aerie's feasablility:
(Hopefully I don't screw up the math)
I don't think that Castle Wyvern could actually stand as drawn. Let's look at the 10 columns on the front:
Taking a back of the envelope (literally) WAG, they appear to have length of 2x2x80 (pixels on the picture I'm using). Let's assume that they have fixed ends, so the effective length is 40. Further assuming that they're A588 steel with Yield=100 ksi and E=29(10^3)ksi. (You can't actually get solid steel columns in this grade, but what the hell, you can't actually get permission to install antiaircraft lasers on top of your skyscraper, either) This means that they have a radius of gyration k=.577, and a slenderness ratio of 69. This is an intermediate range column. So the maximum stress it can hold w/out buckling is 30.1 ksi. I'd need more information than I'm willing to spend the time to track down to find the actual load that it could hold.

Well, it's interesting to me.
Yooper - [jwprusi@spamproof.up.net]
Hougton, MI
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:54:14 AM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

Tim> I guess every politician has to be an expert in Organic Chemistry to even begin to think about entering the politcal arena. Besides, I'm sure if Ralph Nader (who I didn't vote for) was put to the test, he would have caught it right away. And water is commonly known as H2O, or Hydrogen Hydroxide.
Josh> All I am stabbing at here is that to say that philsophy is a waste of time shows, at least to me, that one obviously didn't give it a shot. Philsophy just isn't ontology, but also politcs, law, ethics. I believe politcs is, largely, philosphical. The "American Way of Life" is the child of a philosophical movement called the Enlightenment. That means a bunch of poeple wated time by coming up with ideas of freedom, wasted even more time by distributing them, wasted other poeple's time by having others read their ideas, and the reader's in turn wasted time by applying this big joke of philosophical ideas to form a country called America.
And to continue my thing about quarks..... Quarks have never actually been seen, only their effects have. Physicists saw steaks form, in a completley random occurence, in a large chamber. They didn't see what caused the streaks, but said something, which doesn't obey the laws physics, that is smaller than atom caused this. They eventually came up with the quark out of this. To me, that seems as theoretical as string-theory, which can't be proven by any tests, and big-bang, which scientists came-up with due to some sort of radiation on the out-skirts of the galaxy.
These theories are largley formed out of pure assumption. They assume the quark is there (though there is no concrete evidence), they assume string-theory is true(though they have no tests to back it up), and they assume big-bang happened, (even though the only "evidnce" they have to prove it is "left-overs," which they assume came from the bang).
Anyways,my useless rant. :)
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:51:09 AM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Oh, God. live to see news articles like this...

The Green Party has been embarrassed by a hoax e-mail. Phil Gully contacted the Greens seeking a ban on a substance he says kills thousands each year. He said the substance, dihydrogen monoxide, is used in nuclear submarines and is present in acid rain. Sue Kedgley's office replied, saying it was sure the Greens would support such a ban. Dihyrdrogen monoxide is commonly known as water. National's Nick Smith says the incident shows just how scientifically illiterate the Greens are.

And just *who* was it in here that voted for Nader?
Tim
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:19:55 AM
IP: wsc003.wsc.edu

Album of the day: "Haunted" by Poe. She's wonderfully photogenic. Too bad her music isn't mainstream enough to get heavy airplay.

This just in: The attorney general says you're all in danger. Of course, he won't tell you anything more than that. Just, "Be cautious, even though you're screwed anyway, and oh yeah, GO ABOUT YOUR NORMAL LIVES AND DON'T BE SCARED."

What happy horsecrap is this? Just what we need. You hand out a threat, give NO elaboration, and now every idiot will be speculating as to which way we'll die. Thank you, John Ashcroft. A little explanation would have been appreciated.

Tonight on TV, you could have watched the WB's lineup, or UPN's lineup, or watched (hopefully) the Diamondbacks slaughter the Yankees (in this age of supporting NYC, let me just say that I hope the Yankees are MASSACRED. No championship for you, dicks. *checks score* Oops. Well, here's hoping that was a fluke.), or watch the triumphant return of Michael Jordan to the NBA as the Wizards take on the Nicks. I'm in Washington D.C., but trust, the Wizards will stick suck this year, they'll just suck with old Michael Jordan. Eh, at least it puts asses in the seats.

TGS Staff Members: Hmm….me, as a TGS staff member? The power! THE POWER!!! Hey, I qualify, I think. Why, by attaching my name to anything, my inherent starpower would immediately make it a success. Disney would be begging us to revive the show. That's when I can pull off my true master plan - replacing Greg Weisman as the creative force behind Gargoyles. He'll be fetching my coffee before I'm done with him! And Frank Paur shall be the first victim of the SJ regime! Why? Because I damn well feel like it!
Of course, eventually the drugs and booze and loose women will get the hang of me, and I'll be deposed myself. Probably by Green Baron, of all people. Maybe I should just quit while I'm ahead.

On with replies.

Ever notice how I have this odd power to make people show up in the CR, just by mentioning their name? Well, it apparently doesn't work on the people I most want to show up. I could scream "Jackal", and he wouldn't show up (well….there might be very easy, *legal* reasons why he wouldn't show up). I shout "Wilek", it'd probably be a week before he posts. Anyway,

Aris: <> But I've never seen you openly name-call people before. And do it with such wonderful venom. I was impressed. <<Wasn't that the thing you hated about me?>> You I don't hate. I don't think I've ever hated you. We just disagree on….everything. <<Unfortunately whenever I started speaking about some off-topic matter like Mythology, somebody (like you?) protested that we shouldn't post about things they don't care about (like Mythology?).>> How could the Mythology stuff be off-topic when you guys talked about it EVERY DAY in the CR, ad nauseam? It was a regular feature. And it was the ONLY thing you guys seemed to talk about. <<As a result the fun (for me) discussions I once had with Todd and Airwalker are now a thing of the past.>> Sevarius "Killjoy" Jr. I haven't posted in the S8 CR in ages. Months, at the least. Maybe even as long as a year ago. I mean, I couldn't have done much damage, because when I did post there, it was briefly, over the course of maybe a week or two. If the mythology essays have stopped since then, it's not my fault. Read my comment to Todd.

Todd: <> Exactly. That was my argument. I felt like I had walked into an anthropology lecture every time I peeked in on the S8. I remember the response I got when I suggested an RP in the S8 room. You'd have thought I just asked if I could rape your mothers. <<And I miss Airwalker, period. It's been a long time since he posted in either comment room, and he always had a lot of interesting things to say.>> I probably ran him away. I don't know how, but that's my track record.

DPH: Wanna change your image to that of a "bad boy"? Act like me. First step: take all of your good friends in this CR, and get involved in horrible flame wars with them.
Oh, and smoke too. All the cool kids say it'll make you popular.

Carolynn: New and improved Joker products!
I've heard about that Catwoman script. Ugh. Sad thing is, it's the crap scripts like that which always end up getting made. As for the Sandman movie…Gaiman has a long story to tell about that. Producer Jon Peters wanted to make the film at one point, and was going to turn it into more of an action movie. The movie opened with Dream and the Corinthian slugging it out. Peters, of course, is best known as the guy who tried to tell Kevin Smith what should be in his draft of the new Superman movie, when he himself (Peters) did not even know Superman's name. "Uh, who's this Kal-El person you keep referring to?" <<Bwahaha ... ever see Se7en??>> Mucho points for spelling it correctly with the numerical!
<<Mommy, I'm afraid...>> That's oddly arousing.

Eddie Izzard: <<"And then Queen Victoria became the Queen of India, and she never bloody went there. She was one of our more frumpy queens. They're all frumpy, aren't they? Because it's a bad idea when cousins MARRY.">> Wow. And people find this funny, huh? Fascinating.
I'm sorry, after Jim Norton, everything else is tame by comparison. I swear, comedy doesn't even faze me anymore unless it has a AIDS joke thrown in.

Spacebabie: <<but what if they did this :Jaina "Form a Eliza Dushku" Zan" Form a
Wonder Woman's bath water">> NICE! Someone else has been watching Adult Swim on Cartoon Network!

Shadowrider: <<When I arrived here the first time, instead, a lot of people welcomed me and started talking.>> Then the next week, the flames began. <> Oh, and I have.

Greg: <<Out of curiosity, what's Ras al' Ghul (my other favorite Bat-villain) like in the comics?>> A lot like the show. He's incredibly smart, very calculated, but I'd list him as a bit more sociopathic and evil than in the comic. In the cartoon, they made his goals almost noble, while in the comic, he's a little bit too sinister to quite label him as that. And he can be VERY nasty. He's released bio-engineered plagues to wipe out his enemies (check out the Contagion TPB) and recently, he orchestrated a plot to make it appear as Dick Grayson's grandfather had returned. Of course, the old man wasn't Nightwing's granddad, but the point Ghul made was that he could strike Batman where he was at his most vulnerable, that being his family (the end result of this was pretty cool - Bruce finally legally adopts Dick as his son).
Also, Talia has betrayed her family and is now working for President Luthor. Yes, that's right. DC did an incredibly cool thing, IMO - they had Lex Luthor run for president of the USA, and he WON.

Entity: <<Miss Cleo>> I don't know who I have more disdain for - Miss Cleo, or the dopes that call her.

Skippy: <<And for the past couple of days I've been trading quips with this one individual who started this wierd thread about retarded aliens being abandoned on planets.>> They have been. I call them family.

Mooncat: Hey, did you just admit to watching porn? GAY porn at that?

RIVALRIES:

<<Cyclops and Wolverine (X-Men) ... Mr. Perfect vs. Mr. Feral, the prize being Jean Grey.>> Nobody beats Curt Henning.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I think only Ravyn might have got that joke.
Is it wrong that I just, for once, want Wolverine to cut the crap and just punk out Cyclops? He has it coming to him. [Note to Coyote: been reading New X-Men? Great stuff, huh?]

<<Shinji and Asuka (Neon Genesis: Evangelion)>> Who cares about either of them when you can have Rei?

<<Demona and Elisa.>> Sad thing? Two hot chicks are fighting over him, and I bet that Goliath was NOT secretly pleased by it, like most any other hetero male would be.

<<Maverick and Iceman (Top Gun)>> Punch out, Maverick.
Great rivalry here. They compete all the time for the affections of the hottest guy in the gay bar. Top Gun = Homosexual softcore porn with airplanes.

Other rivalries, for your discussion: Raistlin / Caramon (Dragonlance), Goku / Vegeta (DBZ), Buffy / Faith, and Luke Skywalker / Han Solo (over Leia. Tell me THAT doesn't freak you out in retrospect).

***REVIEWS***

No Angel review tonight, cause I haven't watched all of the episode yet. All I can say is, Wes seems to be getting the steaming undies for Fred. And why not? She's good and anorexic, just like I likes them.
Next week: Dead and Bloated Darla returns, smelling like a rose that somebody gave her on her birthday deathbed. And Holtz shows up as well.

***BUFFY SPOILERS***

Tonight's episode subtitled, "Riding in Cars with (Undead) Boys".

So, the traditional Halloween Buffy episode. We start with some major activity in the Magic Box (slow pitch softball, make your own joke), where the holidays have brought out all of the folks in Sunnydale to buy eyes of newt or mummy hands or whatever it is they sell there. We get some awkward talk between Spike and Buffy, we get Xander telling everyone of his engagement to Anya, and we get (later on) Willow and Tara arguing over Willow's use of magic. Okay, Tara, your little girlfriend resurrects someone from the grave, and spits up pythons during the process (there's symbolism there, somewhere), but the fact that she made party decorations appear at the drop of a hat disturbs you.

Now the main plot of the episode centers around Dawn (because YOU, the fans, demanded it!), as she goes tricking and not treating with her friend and two "bad" boys. Ooh! They're evil! Letting the air out of tires! Maybe they'll get together later and egg some houses! Of course, we soon find out that they really ARE evil, they being vampires and all. What is it with the Summers girls and vampires? That question would be enough to give Freud an aneurysm. As it stands, we'll just have to gloss over the fact that the Summers clan is full of necrophiliacs. Retarded Trio: take note. If you really want to score with Buffy, kill yourself. She'll find you irresistible. (Editorial note: why were we treated to that Buffy sex slave discussion a couple weeks back? Are they forgetting that one of these goofs built the Buffy bot? You wanna bang Buffy, build a new toy.) The vampires go around biting a few folks, including one old man who looked as if he wanted to touch all of them where the bathing suit covers, wink wink.

So Dawn plays good-girl-painfully-trying-to-be-bad-girl, and admits to - that's right, stay seated - stealing lipstick. PLEASE. We then are treated to our first, of note, Michelle Trachtenberg makeout on screen. I've got my calendar out, I hope you got yours. Willow and Tara fight some more, Willow apparently being the Melissa Ethridge of the group. Tara says Willow uses to much magic, Willow says to keep your mouth shut. Meanwhile, back at the Justice League HQ, Giles learns that the Legion of Doom is trying some hanky panky with the virginal (we hope!) Dawn, and so he goes looking for her. He finds Janice, Dawn's friend, as she's about to become dinner, and then, why, it's a bit of the ol' ultraviolence, me droogs. Of course, when he finds Dawn with her bloodsucking date, a dozen or so more vamps show up, just because we need an obligatory fight scene to round out the last quarter of the show, so it's up to Spike and Buffy to save the day. Dawn winds up staking the boy, and my God, it was so Shakespeare that I thought I saw the word "apothecary" floating across the screen. What else….oh yeah, Tara forgets the fight, because Dark Phoenix….I mean, Willow, casts a forgetfulness spell.

As for the show…..eh, standard. The parts were better than the whole. At least we didn't get the D&D crew this week. I guess I'm the only fan of the show who does NOT like them. Sorry, but the James Bond discussion last week did not sell me.

Stupid Buffy plot question: Shouldn't we see ANOTHER slayer pop up real soon? I thought there was that rule that, as soon as a Slayer dies, another one pops up. Well, Buffy died, so shouldn't we get another one?

Next week, of course, is the big musical episode. I'm counting the SECONDS. Sarah proves to us why she's an actress and not a recording artist, James does a passible impression of a hard rocker (helped, I suppose, by the fact that he plays at being a rocker in his down time), and Giles sings a sappy ballad while the gang does some dopey choreography. Suddenly, it doesn't seem so gay to like Dead or Alive (80s reference for you older folks!). Oh well, it looks as if the crew was enjoying it all.
****END SPOILERS***

***SMALLVILLE TALK!!***
The show with the opening credit song just slightly less gay than the one they use for Enterprise.

I figured out the entire purpose of this show: to sell rock albums. The soundtrack is packed, dude! Now all they need is to stick Blink 182 on there, and oh my god, they'll be the best show ever! They do get a small point for sticking a Gorillaz song in there, though.

We start off with the football team winning a game, then we see Kevin Arnold's dad taking a sauna with Kryptonian rocks. I'm assuming they are, anyway, because I was struck blind for a few moments after seeing him shirtless. I thought I was watching Fight Club for a second, as the phrase "Big Bob's bitch tits" fired across my synapses. We learn that a sizeable chunk of the team are doing poorly in math (what? Athletes, bad at academics? Wow, anything can happen in the movies and TV.) After the brief commercial break, we get Kevin Arnold's Dad (from here on out I will refer to him as KAD) recruiting Clark for the team. Lana argues , sort of, with her Blondy Generic Boyfriend. Pa Kent and Clark argue over Clark's playing football, and it may be the first time in history that a father argues that he's NOT living vicariously through his son's sports achievements. I'm so utterly shocked by this, I'm momentarily speechless, as I certainly have NO point of reference there. Back at the Legion of Doom HQ, aka Lex's swinging bachelor pad, we get a visit by Luthor Sr.'s yes-men, but once again, Lex proves to be too much of a cool bastard, so he "gives them the business". Lex is the best thing about this show, outside of the p.o.a. that is Kristin Kreuk.

At football practice, Clark beats the shizzit out of his other teammates, and KAD gets into an argument with the principal, then promptly uses some pyrokinetic powers, and it's French fried disciplinarian - until Clark saves him, of course (cause it's his show). Back on the farm, Ma and Pa debate about the football team, with Ma for it. We learn that Lana has joined the Dark Side - as we all do, eventually - she's working for Starbucks. Or the Smallville equivalent thereof. She spills some drinks, and I'm both shocked and delighted by the blatant cruelty of the customers as they immediately break out into applause. It's not just me! There are dicks everywhere! I have never felt closer to my fellow man.

Meanwhile, back at the Legion of Doom football field, KAD goes crazy and the field burns. Lois-but-not-Lois videotapes it all. We get treated to a John Glover guest spot, as he and Lex duel with fencing. Now, young Skywalker, the son destroys the father. Ma Kent makes sure to give Clark a pep talk before the pep rally, and it's full of pep indeed. Hey Ma Kent! We all float down here, and when you're down here, YOU'LL float too! (For those still playing the SJ obscure reference game, try figuring that one out. Hint: use the IMDB.) KAD burns down the journalism room, with Chloe-I'm-not-Lois inside. Despite some smart thinking on her part (here's a first - a damsel in distress who actually makes an effort to save her bacon), it's Clark again to save the day, because it's HIS show, of course.

Clark and Chloe debate about KAD, Lex and Clark bond. Clark confronts KAD, but those pesky Kryptonian sauna rocks weaken him, but I didn't see it of course, because again the shirtless KAD was enough to knock my vision down a notch or two. That Krptonian poisoning must make everyone crazy or something, cause I can't imagine KAD would be sane enough to run around shirtless all the time. Clark's dad saves him, but then KAD attacks, and Clark proceeds to give him a solid thrashing, and LIKES doing it (become vengeance, Clark. Become…..Wrath.), and he becomes my hero because I've wanted to pound KAD's ugly face in ever since the Wonder Years. Lex fights with his dad, verbally this time, and then Clark and Lana bond together. Clark decides it's OK to not play sports. Sure, it's okay when you look like you do Clark. The fact that you're not Mr. Star Athlete won't hurt your chances of picking up the ladies, pretty boy.

Inherently silly episode (as if they haven't all been) but better in a sense because the teen angst was kept way down. Nobody really moped about this time. Pleasantly surprising.
***End SPOILERS***

And I'm done.

"I am the peeled banana in your fruitbowl of love"
--- Joel "You can't have your pudding if you don't eat your meat" Gertner

Sevarius "The Quintessential Studmuffin" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:17:36 AM
IP: 66-44-57-232.s486.tnt2.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

Josh> LOL! If you want to! ;)
SOROW
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:49:28 PM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

Fire Storm- Okay, I won't remind you. No images of broken bones, slurping "food" or the pain and painkillers. Don't worry I won't remind you of any of that.

Happy Belated B-day to everyone I missed!

Later.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:42:04 PM
IP: ac8911a5.ipt.aol.com

FRELL! FRELL! FRELL!

I will get this right ONE OF THESE POSTS!

Here's how it SHOULD be:
Imzadi: <Doug Elder does NOT get a profile. That would be a privilege to him considering the bullsh*t he's put this CR through.>
Biased, eh?
Regardless of what he actually did, he was a member in here for 3 years. He was here since the beginning of this CR. At the very least, people should know who he is, if nothing else. I mean, that's what the profiles would be for. A quick reference for people to find out who someone is.
Since he is in the Archives, people will wonder about him.
So, just as anyone else from the past can have a profile, I think he should be able to also.

Fire Storm yet AGAIN!
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:04:02 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

DERN LOT BOYS! That's ten.asu, not MOC.asu in my e-mail address!
Fire Storm - [ten.asy@DCBCymereJ]
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:00:08 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

The tale of the Mystic Lady:
I the begining, there was darkness. Saftey.
But that was not to be.
For as she emerged, the knives came, slashing at her, cutting and ripping her.
It was thought she would not survive the onslaught. She was too young. It could not be done.
They were wrong!
From the Day of Blades, the Lady Mystic fought and struggled, kept in cage, seperated from the world that would soon be hers.
Since the Day of Blades, she has watched and listened, waiting...

Terrky K: <JAVA JIVE!!! YES JAVA JIVE!>
...
Uh... yeah... and I thought *I* got screwed up when I drink coffee that is WAY too strong!
<good news everyone! i didn't lose my job!!!!>
Just how I feel when I come home from work every day.

Lynati: <you haven't heard the version that's on "Live Noise"?>
Nope. Sorry. I just have 4 versions:
Original
Riverdance
Cranky Monarch
And one version I can't find right now...

Jaden: 
Don't remind me. After I get my wisdom teeth taken out, I will most likely have to get muscle surgery on my jaw. OUCH.
Well, it's not like i actually ENJOY solid foods anyway...

Greg Bishansky: <Since you asked, here's the story behind Dr. Vogel's "MR BLADE" Licence plate>
Wierd... but cool!
I forget the stories my teachers told me. Except how my uncles best friend bought my photography teachers sports car.

Christine: <She wasted no time combining the Lego Life on Mars with the Lego Harry Potter presents, so now we have Harry Potter on Mars>
OR Martian life on Harry Potter.

Imzadi: <If you'd index your hard drive, ti wouldn't take so long>
Uh... no. It would take up too much disk space and too much processor hit. Don't want to.
Hey! I have 140 hours of MP3s on my system!
<Now THAT is a much better idea>
OR maybe the building had a strong and large central spire of some really tough material.
<I'd imagine a good groundshaker would put it over>
The falling of the Eyrie building...
<awww, he's such a cute little evil...>
Little baby evil is growing up SO fast!
<Except our women>
And getting them is the hard part!
<If you have ex's that you still get along with, they can make you look VERY good to future prospects>
Lets see... nope. Hell, I haven't even HEARD from or seen any of my ex's... thankfully.
<What's taking so long?>
Ah, it is a regulated building material. Legal crap, ya know.
Oh... and money.
<!? How many samples?>
No frelling idea.
<Eh, maybe. It took me long enough just to remember it>
There was a local ad for a comic shop that had a Klingon (in a bad costume) say: Where is your sci-fi merchandice" in Klingon. AND I still remember how it sounded.
TYPING it is another matter.
<Is there a single good reason why he controls all this stuff by himself?>
His server. His code. His rules.
<Yeah, its acquired by people who HAVE taste!>
NI!
<I'll think about it>
Oh, it's from what I think that all those televangelests say.
"PRAISE THE LORD! HALELUGLEAH! SEND ME CHECKS!"
<Yo. Now all I gotta do is post it>
I think I have at LEAST 3 stories based on "Equality"
1 has a rape in it (Nearly ready to publish)
1 is lesbian/gay one (Gotta re-write that one. Lost in the Coke-a-Cola incident)
1 has Brooklyn actually calling that girl back (Gotta write this one)
All are fun!
<Shoulda dropped by my house>
But it's SO far away!
<Not that I think you WILL be biased, but there's always the possibility>
We all are biased. We are human. Rules and guidlines help us create fairness.
<Personally I think the demona robot goes better, since it matches FS>
Thats how you know she is MY woman!
<Doug Elder does NOT get a profile. That would be a privilege to him considering the bullsh*t he's put this CR through.>
Biased, eh?
Regardless of what he actually did, he was a member in here for 3 years. He was here since the beginning of this CR. At the very least, people should know of him and about him, if from his POV if nothing else.
Since he is in the Archives, people will wonder about him.
So, just as anyone else from the past can have a profile, I think he should be able to also.

Lady Mystic:
<Is that all? I thought there were more people who still post in here...>
I just meant the active posters.
And I didn't realize how many people changed their name so :P

Spacebabie: <Keep your kinky fantasies to yourself mister!>
Is that including the one involving wires, cybernetics and SHODAN? ;)
<We had a cold snap here folks. Sunday morning it was 52 degrees outside>
Last week we had 60s on Thursday, 30s on Friday.

Warpmind: Well, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Gside: <And, of course, the Leafs call him up to drive the Zamboni>
But of course. But you forget that his pizza is always lucious because the King of Spain never rushes!
<Perhaps, but I can get over it.>
SHODAN? A SERGENT? She will NEVER be anything less than the glorious mother of the new race.
And the name of my future home/computer security system.

Who? Sorry, I don't know names.
Hmm...Kodachi and Susuki.
<Really? Even though I hardly ever use the eden? Have you checked it yet today?>
Cool! If only my computer could read it as more than just an audio file.
<But yeah, a giant mechaturtle might be a good avatar.>
COOL! A Mechaturtle casting MEGABLAST EXTREME!
<Data of course. I'm an engineer>
Hell is in the data!
<And I had already ...used my lamb>
Are you TRYING to make me say sick jokes?

Patrick Toman: <Sequels>
"Harry Potter's first date"
"Harry Potter and the dreaded Chick Flick"
Fire Storm - [moc.asu@DCBCymereJ]
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:58:01 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Ok Nukes how does this work for you:

I've been playing troll on the newsgroup alt.aliens.they-are-here. And for the past couple of days I've been trading quips with this one individual who started this wierd thread about retarded aliens being abandoned on planets. I responded with a comparrison to Douglas Adams' bit about the Googlefrinchans in one of the Hitchikers books. The conversation pretty much broke down at that point and now this person has retorted back with "Get A Life"

Okay, I'm on a NG that discusses the presence of aliens. Half the people here either think I'm a part of the conspiracy or an alien myself (I am posting as Skippy the Klingon)and most of them have websites dedicated to "investigating" the alien invasion (check my name link for the best example) and I, ME, am the one being given the "Get A Life" speech! Anyone else find this as ironic as I do?

Skippy The Klingon
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 09:59:40 PM
IP: ppp66.tele-base.net

Who has dared to speak my name? Who has summoned me from the abyss?

Oh, DPH; it figures. You're always doing that.

The weird thing is that I literally just peeked in with the intention of posting something. And here someone is talking about me. Mwahahaha!

Yes, I've been gone a long time. Partly because I've been busy, and partly because I slipped into another bout of depression. I've been feeling so withdrawn that I haven't even been checking in here, let alone posting. Various changes--including medication :)--have improved things.

I do have some sad news to report. On October 10, my mother, Nancy Bruce Johnson, passed away. It was almost exactly one year since she entered the nursing home. Now, at least, she will no longer suffer. I miss her enormously, but I also feel a sense of relief. I can actually start to get on with my life again. Of course, it's also a rather lonely feeling since I am virtually alone now. My surviving family is scattered pretty far. Just me in this big old house. Thank God for the dog. He really did show up at just the right time. :) Oh, Spunky says "hi" too.

Hopefully I'll post more later rather than disappearing again. :P
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, US^United States
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 09:49:40 PM
IP: pool-138-89-122-237.mad.east.verizon.net

Guys, I will never ever consider smoking. One reason: my mom died of cancer.

I still can't find any reason to be angry (frustrated is a different story) with anyone other than my dad. All evil people have to the motivation: I don't have it.

Self-preservation is another matter though. Scheme against me and look out because if you had not planned far enough ahead, you'll find yourself in trouble.

David G - I consider hypocrisy one of the greatest evils. I don't mind people making rules as long as they follow their own rules.

Carolynn Marie - <If history got altered and wiped out our existence, I think insurance collection would be the last thing on your mind ;)> - true, but it would be impossible to collect on the guarantee because you surived. If you didn't surive, you can't collect on it. That makes it a perfect win-win product for a business to sell.

Hmm. where's Daniel Johnson? Did I ever mention how much I had in a class where I was not the only Daniel?

Time for . . time travel to prevent Haim Saban from producing Power Rangers.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 08:54:25 PM
IP: max1-2.cwy.cei.net

Okay ... someone beat me to the "something interesting" bit, so maybe I oughtta respond ...

Rivalries: Hmm ... good one ... Trying to recall the rivalries that I've made note of in all things literary and pop culture ...

Yeesh, I can think of sports rivalries up the wazoo, one of which involves a team both myself and Ravyn back (Detroit Red Wings ... a long-standing bad blood feud with them and the Colorado Avalanche dating back to 1996) ...

All right, I think I've thought of a few.

Let's see here ...

Cyclops and Wolverine (X-Men) ... Mr. Perfect vs. Mr. Feral, the prize being Jean Grey. Ultimately Mr. Perfect wins, but in recent comics Cyclops has, as Wolverine put it, "a king-size bug up his ass," and has distanced himself from all his emotions to keep En Sabah Nur (Apocalypse) at bay. So Jeannie's been turning to Logan to get some affection as of late. :)

Shinji and Asuka (Neon Genesis: Evangelion) ... the classic "anything you can do I can do better" rivalry. Asuka's the top of her class, a college graduate at 14, attractive, outgoing, arrogant ... and constantly upstaged at every turn by Shinji's skills and experience in the beginning, and later by his sanity as she's slowly losing her mind.

How about a Garg one? It should be obvious ... Demona and Elisa. And fueling it is a classic source, jealousy. Demona is jealous of Elisa's closeness to her ex-mate, and it fuels her rage even beyond her hatred for all humanity.

Robin and Superboy (primarily in Young Justice) ... one's got the brains, the other's got the powers. They're both leaders in their own rights, and for the rest of the team they consider Robin the leader. This would count as the "power struggle" rivalry ... or would be if recent events in the book hadn't occurred (Robin quit the team in disgust when SB turned the others against him).

Maverick and Iceman (Top Gun) ... not only because this is one of the best films ever made that featured Naval Air, but also a great example of the "anything you can do I can do better" rivalry archetype. Which is pretty blatant at the start of the two pilots' interaction ... "So don't you think it's obvious?" "What?" "Who's the better pilot." Yet at the end, it's Maverick who scores the big victory in the dogfight.

And *now* my brain is tapped out completely for this evening. :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 08:23:53 PM
IP: 64.243.214.86

Okay, I'll say somethin', then ...

**clears throat**

Is it just me, or does anyone else want to see Michael Jackson and Alien Ant Farm perform "Smooth Criminal" in concert together, just to see AAF upstage Michael playing his own song?

Okay, that was weird, but it was *something,* wasn't it? Sorry, my brain is fried and is just going to go further south as the week goes on. :P
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 07:58:15 PM
IP: 64.243.214.86

Evil Accoutrements> Nah, you don't need any of that. You just need a truly maniacal laugh and unstable personality. If you can go from calm disinterest to rabid fury in under 8 seconds you're in.

As for the other derf of gargoyles related stuff. It's not unexpected. Not much has changed in the fandom since The Gathering and the last issue of Avalon Mists. I think that'll change when TGS starts posting again, but until then just have to sit tight.

I'll give you a topic:

In all of sci-fi and fantasy, who has had the best rivalry. Not the best good guy and bad guy, but the best struggle. I was watching Raiders of the Lost Ark the other day and I remarked how Indy and Belouc really were the stars. Indy does all the leg work and this punk swoops in and takes the prize. It was a great rivalry.

Talk amongst yourselves.
Taleweaver - [l;oremaster27@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 07:57:27 PM
IP: 24-205-118-23.wc-dyn.charterpipeline.com

someone say something really intersting to I can reply to it :)

You will have to excuse me, I stole milk today at lunch and I feel more cool than normal.lmfao.

Im only happy when it rains.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 03:33:42 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

Happy belated birthday Baldy and LM
Nukes I will not sing, trust me you don’t want
To hear me sing.

Not much happened today. I hooked up the scanner to the old computer in my room since it won’t work on the new computer.

TGS and S8>>>I havent been in the S8 chat room so I can’t really say anything about them I did hear at Gathering2k someone mention that the people in TGS are mean.

*******************SPOILERS FOR ANGEL*********************************************

We all now that Billy boy was trouble and we got to see what kind of trouble he can cause. Lilah got what she deserved and I don’t think Cordy should have blamed herself for her involvement for springing Billy out. The scenes with Wesley chasing Fred reminded me of The Shining and when Fred rigged that Fire extinguisher reminded me of Home Alone. GREAT performance by Alexis Densiof. I liked the ending scenes where Angel was unaffected by Billy but pretended to be so he was able to kick his ass and I was shocked by Lilah shooting Billy. Not too mention where Wesley feels remorseful for what he has done. I was kind of hoping to see Skip again but I’m glad Billy got killed.
***********************SPOILERS END*************************************************

Mooncat<<While I haven't seen huge amounts of fic talk, there is the occassional mention that makes it worth it to me to keep checking in. >> The majority of people who post here have at least one story in the archives.

Jan<<*sticks out tongue at Ravyn* I followed the directions, I get a gold star now ;p *L*>> Do you also get a scratch and sniff sticker?

GXB<<<First and foremost, pick someone evil to admire. A villain. I've got quite a few myself. David Xanatos, Demona, Thailog, Dr. Hannibal Lecter, Megatron/Galvatron, Spike (when he was evil), Joker, Ras al' Ghul, a bunch more.>>>What about REAL evil people like Mike Eisner, Bill Gates and the president of the WB?

Gside<<<Hey.>>>Well you should have known when you live in New Jersey your going to get a lot of cracks about your state. They don’t call it the armpit of America for nothing. I of course live on America’s Wang((As Homer Simpson calls it))

Carolynn Marie<<>> Nobody is mentioning another character that fits in with those two…Angelus aka Angel sans soul.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 03:00:19 PM
IP: 1cust24.tnt1.orl3.da.uu.net

Patrick -- >> Come on... everyone knows that the only mark of being truly evil is having a secret lair, a pet kitty, and a rotating chair. Everything else - including the 1/8 size clone - is just an option. <<

Ooo! Hey! I have kitties! I have a rotating chair! I have a... oh wait, if I mention that, would it still be a secret? *moonkitty ponders...*

Comments about Station 8 CR - well, I rather like the directed discussions there. As it is, when I read the posts on Station 8, I read all of them, but in broader topic rooms, like this one, I tend to skip a lot.

Signal to noise, I find S8 more informative about Gargoyles and Gargoyle related topics. Broad topics are great, because some off topic discussions, like the Tarot Card one, are lots of fun for me. But, not to offend anyone, for a room that has the word Gargoyles in the title, I don't think even 50% of the comments here as being gargoyle related. It's mostly personal chat, how one's day at work/school/home etc has been. Which is cool, but since I'm often pressed for time, I *have* to skim or ignore a lot of those kinds of posts.

My only sorrow with S8 is that fan fic can't be discussed with any great detail or depth, but I totally understand the professional reasons why.

I started hanging out here in the TGS CR, because I hoped there was more discussion on fan fic, TGS, and other Gargoyles writing and fan art stuff. While I haven't seen huge amounts of fic talk, there is the occassional mention that makes it worth it to me to keep checking in.

And I am going to look through the CR archives to see what has been said in the past. Actually, I wouldn't mind if there were a Fan Fic chat room, with a focus on talk about Gargoyles fan fiction. But that's just me *^_^*

Variety is the spice of life *^_~*

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 02:23:49 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Greg> <<<Seriously, I hate cigarettes, and hope no one took that seriously.>>> Seriously, dude. What's up with inhaling sheer smoke for no purpose?
Entity
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 02:22:54 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

Sequels > How about "Harry Potter Goes to Camp" and "Harry Potter Saves Christmas"? Or what about "Harry Potter and the Last Crusade"? Or "Harry Potter Strikes Back"? ;)

Secret to evil > Come on... everyone knows that the only mark of being truly evil is having a secret lair, a pet kitty, and a rotating chair. Everything else - including the 1/8 size clone - is just an option.

:: spins in his evil chair ::
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 12:48:13 PM
IP: dsl081-009-210.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net

Wait a minute, I didn't say evil. I mean refining my image to the point where threats made by me can be considered credible. I may have already done that. DC never lets me get near him anymore. :-) For that matter, the CR villains seem to flee my presence. I'll guess I'll try to be meaner or find some reason to be angry [no, I'm not going back to declaring thermonuclear war against my dad].

Wait a minute, I can't help being myself.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 09:13:32 AM
IP: max1-42.cwy.cei.net

JOSH> Nice responses <<Smoking does not make you hard core or evil, just STUPID.>> Agreed fully. I don't smoke. I just wanted to see if I could get DPH to. After all, getting people addicted to a dangerous product is a truly evil act ;) BWA HA HA HA My magic cancer sticks will destroy you!!!

Seriously, I hate cigarettes, and hope no one took that seriously.
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 09:11:33 AM
IP: 97-pool5.ras12.nynyc.tii-dial.net

*Struck by lightning bolt. Unimpressed. Combs hair back down and adjusts shirt cuffs*

Greg> I'm a VLARPer, too. (of course I'd rather be a Passion Play LARPer, but that's not going to happen any time soon...) I just needed a handy insult as an illustration for Daniel.

Of course I'm not trying very hard to shed my nice guy image. For one thing, it comes in handy sometimes, and for another, it's so deeply ingrained in most people's perception of me that I'd have to resort to ethnic clensing to shake it.

That's not very practical since, as an American who can trace his roots back to Plymouth Colony, I'm related to practicaly every ethnic group on the planet. (except Italians, oddly - and I like pizza too much to declare genocide on the Italians. Pizza and gangster movies. And Ren fairs - which, while not directly Italian, certainly owe a lot to Italy.)

(I wish I was better at hypocracy. That would make so many things easier.)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 08:22:13 AM
IP: a030-0473.dll2.splitrock.net

ARIS - Yes, I miss those conversations too. Although I think that the specific reason why the mythology conversations were protested against were that they were considered too scholarly, rather than just off-topic.

And I miss Airwalker, period. It's been a long time since he posted in either comment room, and he always had a lot of interesting things to say.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 07:05:38 AM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup066.dialsprint.net

SJ> <<BTW, BTW, does anyone else notice that Aris has adopted more of an arguing style similar to mine?>>

I *think* I've kept pretty much the same style. Wasn't that the thing you hated about me? That I was as confrontational as you, but I supported almost always the opposite things? I wouldn't say "Death penalty is perhaps not the best solution possible." I'd say "The death penalty is WRONG."

<<Because this is a TGS comment room, and we only marginally talk about TGS. That's blasphemy to them.>>

I've several times said about how I'd like more off-topic discussion in S8, make it more like the TGS room in that respect. Unfortunately whenever I started speaking about some off-topic matter like Mythology, somebody (like you?) protested that we shouldn't post about things they don't care about (like Mythology?). As a result the fun (for me) discussions I once had with Todd and Airwalker are now a thing of the past.
Aris Katsaris
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 06:16:15 AM
IP: pc-9.di.uoa.gr

ARGH.

And in conclusion, I hate Mondays. I know I say that every week. The repetition is for emphasis.

I went to ALMOST all my classes today: 5 of 6...not bad. Usually I go to 3 or 4. And our Math TA was extra nice (or spastic, depending on your point of view) and forgot to give us a quiz. So one less thing to worry about.

My friend and I got an A+ on our lab...I'm really kicking ass in fluid dynamics. I wish my lab partner was doing as well, but unfortunately he got slightly raped on the last midterm. Now if I can just live through this next set of midterms, I'll be happy.

Well, no, that's not entirely true. If I can live through this semester, pass all my classes, and get my iBook, THEN I'll be happy.

After my exhausting 2 hour math review, I watched the Boston Public premiere (mmmm...Jeri Ryan...) before hitting the books AGAIN...god damn midterms are such a bitch. Well, actually, the midterms themselves aren't bad...its the fact that everyone keeps the homework piled on that kind of bites a knob.

replies.

Todd: <<because a baseball or football game ran longer than expected>>: the problem is that games ALWAYS run longer than expected. You'd think they'd learn to better estimate the time required by NOW. Professional baseball is, after all, 100 years old. <<it's tempting to wonder what happened to people entering or leaving New York in "The Mirror">>: I forsee the National Enquirer headline "Plane full of gargoyles lands in France" ;-) <<it is tempting to wonder if the consequences/aftermath of Oberon's sleep spell (not to mention the consequences/aftermath of the events in "City of Stone", and goodness knows what else during the period between "Awakening" and "Hunter's Moon") had anything to do with the public hostility towards the gargoyles>>: Ooh, good ideas.

Patrick: <<Work is kinda of slow right now... so there's lots of spare moments to be had>>: I'll wait with baited breath. <<be careful or you'll give them ideas for more sequels>>: Why is that bad? Anything to get kids reading more! <<Random thought>>/: Hmmm, interesting points.

Lady Mystic: Happy Birthday! <<Another potential pic for my posts>>: Personally I think the demona robot goes better, since it matches FS ;-) <<I'm going to refrain from posting my email address as much as possible due to the junk mail I get whenever I even write the address in here>>: Use the format for my email address...post your name as the first part of your email addy, and then leave the @junk.whatever as the email address. Works like a charm. <<**L** The thing that would drive me ABSOLUTELY nuts>>: Yeah, I know my webmasters ;-) <<I'm hoping I will be as unbiased as humanly possible>>: That sounds like an oxymoron. As a human, you are biased. Period. <<Doug Elder>>: Doug Elder does NOT get a profile. That would be a privilege to him considering the bullsh*t he's put this CR through.

Queen of Pain: <<we can get back to God’s time>>: Pacific Standard? <>: The weird thing is that I feel like I get an extra hour EACH day, because my sleep clock works funky. I can wake up at 12 and be fully functional, even if I've gone to bed at 7AM. But if I wake up at 8AM, I'm never functional, even if I went to bed at 10PM. <<Keep your kinky fantasies to yourself mister>>: And Lady Mystic. <>: Ah, only in Bond... <<Cat woman is Really J.LO>>; LOL! <<The beauty of staying up until that hour..No Traffic>>: Thank god, otherwise that spin would have killed me. <<Let me tell you what I expect, men with tight butts in fishnets>>: You'd have been thrilled. I was sick. <<Since Cocoa is chocolate and since you love Macs>>: Actually, Cocoa is a mac programming environment. <<See you got to see at least one hot girl>>: Well, she had a nice body...but I wouldn't use the word "hot" (lets call it a typo).

Revel: <<Don't complicate things with facts of reality, it dulls the moment>>: But its hard to suspend belief for certain things, and then it doesn't matter how it was written. <>: No no no. If they can see it, they can attack it. That's no good.

Smut Pandering Bitch Queen of All Creation: <<ice cream truck>>: Yeah, well when I was her age I wanted to be...oh. I still wanted to be an engineer 8-)

Baldy: Happy b-day! <<Don't recall the title at the moment, though>>: "Generations"? <<There was just something about finishing the fight with biting the opponent's head off>>: I prefer incineration myself.

Shadowrider: <<Since no supporting structure was shown>>: No, they did show supports. They were shown clearly in City of Stone, when MacBeth and Demona fall through the floor into the arboretum. Massive steel buttresses. <<Conclusions?>>: They suck 8-) I only go in to post to the one mac user in there...rarely about gargs. I ask garg questions in here.

Jan: <>: Its not as if we ever talk about them in here. <>: I'll let you know after I take over. <<I'm glad that you are alright and that you were not in an accident!>>: Heh, me too. <<yes ma'am, I'll get someone on this right away>>: That's what I used to say to tech support customers. <>: I think its mostly for teenagers 8-) WHICH I"M NOT ANYMORE! !@#$!

Coyote: <<yes, I *have* become a Q in training>>: Lucky bastard.

DPH: <>: I'm sorry, dude, but you're in cyberspace. Why the hell should I be afraid of you? <<Must work on redefining image to be less of a nice guy>>: It takes years to build up a decent mean image. I know from personal experience. <<Did the guy admit he's a dangerous driver>>: He's not. He's actually a really good and usually very safe driver. But he's also a 20 year old with a brand new 325i, so you can imagine he enjoys testing its limits. <<some people want a sports channel dedicated to each sport>>: I don't see why there couldn't be one. <<But narrow is the way to heaven>>: No, I don't think so. <<you're saying because I didn't attend the convention, I'm not crazy. Even if I have to borrow money, I am definitely going to the convention next year>>: Then you'll be just as crazy as the rest of us.

Greg X: <>: I gave up when I realized that chicks obviously don't want "a nice guy", because if they did then all the *ssholes out there wouldn't have girlfriends. <<pick someone evil to admire. A villain>>: Bill Gates? Nah, I pick Xanatos. He's exactly the kind of villian I'd be. Not crazy, just brilliant and exceedingly wealthy/eccentric. <<perfect for kicking people in the nuts>>: Dot com? <<For more formal occasions, I wear a black suit, dark gray shirt and solid black tie. Well dressed, but still evil looking>>: Better than me. I'll bring a suit for the banquet next year. I can't pull evil in a black suit, just slick. Now, I guess if you know better, then it'd be "devilish". <<You should stop caring about things>>: Check. Everything or just the things that other people do care about? Would it be acceptable to stop caring about, say, your family, but still get all worked up when your computer doesn't arrive on time (and incinerate someone in your fury)? <<be capable to laugh at the humilations of others>>: CHECK! <<you've got to smoke>>: WhAT!? David Xanatos doesn't smoke. Neither does Demona. Neither does Ras. Neither does Galvatron. Neither does Thailog. Smoking does not make you hard core or evil, just STUPID. <<You need to be able to easily piss people off easily>>: That's more SJ's department, but I've had a lot of luck there too. <<don't curse every other word>>: F*ck you. <<You want to sound evil and not nice. Not like gutter trash.>>: I can be confused for many things, but I don't think gutter trash is one of them, even with the amount of cursing I do. <<Anyone else want to add anything>>: Project amazing self-confidence to everyone (whether or not you actually feel confident is irrelevant, you just need people to think you are). This will make people think that everything is going exactly the way you planned it, and this will make them fearful. Fear is good. People should be afraid of you. Hmmm, other things...never announce your presence. Unless its to massacre a group of people under laser fire, stay subtle until you unleash your hordes of doom. <<But you've also got to have a God-Complex.>>: I am SO there! <<you can't fear Hell. Either you don't believe in it, or you know that you'll be running the place within a day>>: I'm already running it, actually. Look under "Mayor of Detroit" and you'll see my name in the credits ;-) <<But above all, you've got to be smart>>: That's a rather subjective thing, but I think I'm rather brilliant. Most IQ tests agree with me. <<only intelligent people make it in the evil business>>: I will SO be David Xanatos when I am king...before he got all wussy because he had a kid. I will never breed.

David G: <<You don't look evil. You just look like a VLARPer. Rather pathetic really>>: oooooh dis! <<Another thing that will help you shed your nice guy image is if you can make people feel bad about themselves>>: Piece of cake.

SOROW: <>: Piece of ass? ;-)

Gside: <>: I have yet to actually eat one of these things. <>: Right. A retard. I didn't say they had to be a retarded HUMAN. <<But then how do you evaluate the equations and represent the data? >>: there are no equations. And you represent the data with these weird things called "quote marks". <<It gets ugly for the wazoo>>: Fortunately, after my math midterm on thursday, I won't have to worry about transformations until the final...just DiffEQ's. <<it wasn't with wang. Me>>: I don't think you should confuse yourself with wang. <<the repeating music would eventually get to her>>: And then she'll be an engineer. <<Not with SJ naked>>: Anthrax does seem rather innocuous compared to that, ne?

Carolynn Marie: <<how much ARE cigarettes>>: I think its up to 5/pack for some brands in LA. <<total lack of morals>>: Got that too! But I avoid mutilation of other people because a) I have a weak stomach, b) its illegal, and c) its unnecessary. <<This girl looked like she'd taken a swan dive off the ugly tree>>: ...and dragged everyone on campus with her! <<THE scariest thing to happen to you outside of nosy relatives>>: I've been in several fender-benders, but never anything serious. But don't jump to conclusions...I've got some SCARY relatives ;-) And I'm not so normal myself. Hey, you should see Gathering...now THAT's scary. <<guys in general wouldn't give up a chance for easy @ss>>: Yeah, well you'd be wrong, because any smart guy knows (either from experience or common sense) that easy ass is often dirty. <<or an invitation to the Playboy Mansion>>: I'd go even IF I had a girlfriend. Good luck keeping me off THAT property ;-) <<like that happens every week>>: Actually, in LA... <<had to, um, fake...>>: Did she have actual experience to base it on? The worst is the virgins who haven't, and they have to fake...and then we boo them off stage 8-) <<You never saw "Battlefield Earth", did you?>>: I did, and I still think RHPS and LiS are the worst. <<ever see Seven>>: Nope, didn't make my list. Too gory.

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Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 03:33:06 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-25-186.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Happy Hatching day to LM and Warpmind, you crazy kids!! Enjoy it all now cuz you'll be gumming your peanut butter before ya know it!! ;D

GREG< <<And you can't fear Hell. Either you don't believe in it, or you know that you'll be running the place within a day >>

In the words of my friend Inna, a chronic smoker, upon my comment that smoking will kill ya: "Hey, better to be smoking on Earth than in the hereafter" ;P Of course, I'd think it'd be better to throw yourself in front of a train. It's quicker and cheaper than plunking down $4 a pack a day (how much ARE cigarettes now in the metropolitan area? The prices, they are a' climbin' ...)

<<Anyone else want to add anything? >>

I think the scariest things about the Joker and Hannibal Lecter (who are frighteningly similar in many respects) is their total lack of morals. You mentioned "laugh when others trip", but I think Mr. J and Hannibal the Cannibal's evillness is at the core, much deeper. I read an interesting psychological piece recently on why Hannibal was such an effective villain and how it registers in the human brain.

You could kill someone with a gun, and most people would tsk-tsk over that, but a gun is still very impersonal. Use a machete and people would wince a little more. But look at what Hannibal does: he attacks a person in the most primitive way but going for the face and using his mouth as a vicious weapon (I think in "Silence of the Lambs" the exact phrase was "shaking his head side to side like a dog" in describing Hannibal's attack on the guards). The face and the hands are distinctly human features, so Hannibal doesn't want to just hurt, he leaves a physical reminder behind of what he did: an attempt to destroy the parts that define the person. And that's what makes us cringe. That's also why you cringe when the Joker injects someone with his Smilex laughing gas, killing them while leaving the corpse with a hideous Joker-like grin. He could shoot 'em, but mangling the body is a gruesome reminder to those still alive. Think about it: we'll lament over murderers who use automatics, but there's something particularly unhuman about disfiguring monsters like Jack the Ripper (who harvested organs from his prostitute victims) and Jeffrey Dahmer. So the ultimate bad guy doesn't see other humans as people, but as a rag doll, something to play with and tear up. I think Demona isn't even completely evil, because she at least has motives and probably wouldn't stay to kick around the bodies; death helps her achieve her goal of destroying her inner demons. To the Joker, death is the ultimate joke in itself *reads over Greg's post* Y'know, this is just a psychological discussion, so please don't follow my advice to the letter :) No fava beans for you!

TODD< There's another "fictional book", The BFG by Roald Dahl, supposedly written by the title character. Dahl's stuff in general is pretty good, especially "Mathilda". Much darker than "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" which even as a kid I could never get into (then again, I was reading "Jurassic Park" in fifth grade, which is infintely more science and gore-oriented than the movie).

<<For that matter, it's tempting to wonder what happened to people entering or leaving New York in "The Mirror".... >>

Hey, if they were coming to Paramus, NJ, I don't think we'd notice right away ;)

REVEL< <<I don't think that it is so much that they don't know the stuff they produce is crap it's just that if they produce nothing then their company will be forgotten. At least if they make crap someone can say, "Yeah that movie sucked, but it had (insert name here)in it." It's not about quality from my point of view. >>

That's a real pity, too, because a creation created without any heart projects that same aura to the audience. How successful would "Gargoyles" have been if Greg Weisman and Michael Reeves and the rest of the staff did it all for money and with a "Aw, screw it" attitude?

Anyone ever see "For Love of the Game"? *shudders*

<<eddie izard- "Well do you have a flag?"
"No."
"No flag, no country!" >>

"And then Queen Victoria became the Queen of India, and she never bloody went there. She was one of our more frumpy queens. They're all frumpy, aren't they? Because it's a bad idea when cousins MARRY." God, I love Eddie... quite a shock to actually see him with five o'clock shadow and without his makeup and stilettos...

SPACEBABIE< Heh, Carolynn Marie is my exact first and middle name, too :) <<<Several critics have already reviewed it (go to darkhorizons.com) and say it's the worst piece of crap to swing in on a Bata rang since Batman & Robin (which was pretty bad, folks)>>>It can‘t be any worse than Batman and Robin can it?>> God knows. I thought nothing could get any worse than "Pocohontas", but Kevin Costner keeps churning out movies so... <<a new character, Precious Price (okay, the name flunks right there).>>I guess they couldn’t use Pussy Galore >> LOL!! OMG, but that would be perfect! If the movie at least poked fun at itself instead of convincing itself of how serious it was, it MIGHT work

PATRICK< <<Harry Potter on Mars >> Harry Potter visits Communist China? Harry Potter and I Love Lucy?

GAIMAN FANS< Next week, on Celebrity DeathMatch: Harry Potter vs. Timothy Hunter!! I would PAY to see that.

JOSH< <<This time, it looked like the ugly stick had gone on a rampage through campus. >> "This girl looked like she'd taken a swan dive off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down ..." <<we fishtailed violently and nearly went into a spin and nearly hit the divider. It was quite scary, but Mike is a brilliant driver and recovered from it completely.>> *raises her Dr. Pepper in a toast* L'chaim, man. Being in a car accident is THE scariest thing to happen to you outside of nosy relatives. Glad to hear you're okay! <<<<he's moving to Nevada>>: Is he having that much trouble getting laid? >> Mark? Pff, guy's got a girlfriend ... I just think guys in general wouldn't give up a chance for easy @ss, be it Nevada or an invitation to the Playboy Mansion ... like that happens every week... <<<<Virgins>>: Yeah, we all went through it...except me, cuz I "lost it" at a relaxed theater that really didn't care>> You were lucky. Luckily, there were tons of virgins up on stage beside us, but I got off easy with the cherry-bobbing. Heidi didn't get her assignment until almost everyone had sat back down, so she was the sole virgin up there when she had to, um, fake ... <<Um, no. RHPS SUCKS. It is the WORST MOVIE EVER (well, possibly with the exception of Lost in Space).>> You never saw "Battlefield Earth", did you? Though I contend Lost in Space is a very close runner-up. <<<>: Umm...neat trick. >> Not nearly as cool as my spitting fire while riding a unicycle trick ;) <<<<if I got shot in the kneecap>>: Ugh, I don't even want to think about such things. >> Bwahaha ... ever see Se7en?? (I'd see it, but a friend of mine spoiled the ending for me so I'm debating ...) <<Ah, gotta love Tourettte's Syndrome. >> LOL! <<Creepy, I've avoid that guy>> Creepy is an understatement. I've been getting in the habit of wearing my hair up so he'll leave me alone. Today in the University Center they were selling tickets to the Vagina Monologues and Aardvark Boy was just STARING at the play's posters for like ten minutes and laughing a little postal worker laugh under his breath. Of course, that might not be different from several other guys, but there was just something very non-masculine-acting-out about it. Either way, I stayed out of sight. <> *in best Tweety voice* He don't know me very well, do he?

SOROW< You meeting Kevin Spacey is just too cool for words. I'm jealous!! ;)

DPH< < <<The policy officially covers the cost of a ghost attack, an encounter with a space alien, and consequences from becoming a werewolf or vampire.>>>One question: should I consider trying to sell a device that keeps a person from ceasing to exist in the event history is altered? To collect on the money back guarantee in the event of product failure, you'd have to have proof of purchase AND valid identification. >> If history got altered and wiped out our existence, I think insurance collection would be the last thing on your mind ;)

JAN< I love listening about your day. It's certainly never boring!! Reminds me of one time working at Shoprite:

Lady: *looking at the register monitor* Hey, peaches are supposed to be $.99 a pound!
Me: *looking at the register monitor* Ma'am, they ARE $.99 a pound.
Lady: Well, then, I don't want them!
Me: Oooookay *smothers laughter and risks imminent suffocation*

Nighters, folks!
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 01:12:48 AM
IP: pc169-217.drew.edu

Fire Storm> <<Huh?>>: LN version of KoS, of course. Apparently Dave had recently shaved his head.
<<The old King of Spain. Now he vacuums the turf at Skydome>>: And, of course, the Leafs call him up to drive the Zamboni.
<<Sergent SHODAN is a disrespect to the name>>: Perhaps, but I can get over it.
<<OH WAIT! ANIME! Logic dosn't count!>>: Of course not.
<>: I tend towards the demicanon couples, which means Akari and Konatsu.
<>: Really? Even though I hardly ever use the eden? Have you checked it yet today?
<>: But yeah, a giant mechaturtle might be a good avatar.
<<Data or Satan?>>: Data of course. I'm an engineer.
<>: I haven't lately myself. But I should put Boo Time on repeat.
<>: And I had already ...used my lamb.
Daphne> <<any suggestions?>>: Or you could try putting King Lear on a farm or in feudal Japan. Wait, those have already been done.
<<can I get takeout?>>: Yup, but it's not the same since they moved it out of Davidson. They had actual stromboli, now we have to settle for pizza pockets.

For the record, I just had my first Krispy Kreme, imported from North Carolina.

Imzadi> <<WTF is that?>>: Kind of like the evil eye.
<<Whatever you say...duck>>: I have no problem with ducks, I would just like to maintain that something that walks like a duck and quacks like a duck could not really be a duck, and still have nigh exceptional mental capabilities.
<<Usually not>>: But then how do you evaluate the equations and represent the data?
<<And you didn't want to know that>>: I can deal. I don't care much.
<<That's a user problem, not a programmer problem>>: And yet, it is still a problem.
<<what happens when you perform a transform up the wazoo?>>: It gets ugly for the wazoo.
<<what does he know?>>: He knows about starships run with engines the size of walnuts, and walnuts run with engines the size of starships.
<>: Nope, it wasn't with wang. Me.

Happy birthday Lady Mystic and Warpmind.

Spacebabie> <<Jersey((Ugh))>>Hey.

Christine> <<she vehemently holds to her desire to drive an ice cream truck>>: Not bad, but the repeating music would eventually get to her.

Robby> <<one of the 10 most infamous books that doesn't really exist>>: So what are the other nine?

DPH> <>: Not with SJ naked.

With some recent mentions of Batman villians, and to rectify a lack of Stones, I give you Poison Ivy by The Rolling Stones.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 01:02:30 AM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

SJ & Josh> You're absolutely right. I guess it is pretty obvious what else you all could call me huh? Thanks for the input you two :)

Happy birthday LM and Warpmind!
SOROW
Tuesday, October 30, 2001 12:11:51 AM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

::Strodes back in, casually throwing a bolt of lightning in David G's direction not bothering to see if it has hit it's mark ;) ::

DPH> I can't believe I forgot this. But you've also got to have a God-Complex.

And you can't fear Hell. Either you don't believe in it, or you know that you'll be running the place within a day

But above all, you've got to be smart. Cause only intelligent people make it in the evil business. Take "THe Silence of the Lambs" for example. Dr. Lecter escaped from prison and was quite free at the end of the movie. he was very smart. Whereas Buffalo Bill was an idiot and ended up dead by the end. You're a smart guy, so you don't have to worry about this, but I felt I should point it out anyway.

David G> My best friend is a VLARPer, and he's very clean cut and dresses quite mundanely. As do the the other people in his VLARP. You'll have to do better than that next time ;)
Greg Bishansky
Monday, October 29, 2001 11:29:10 PM
IP: 164-pool2.ras12.nynyc.tii-dial.net

Greg> You don't look evil. You just look like a VLARPer. Rather pathetic really.

Daniel> Another thing that will help you shed your nice guy image is if you can make people feel bad about themselves.

(The above post was a joke. Ordinaraly, I'd trust you all to get the sarcasam, but since you can't see my irrevrent smirk, I thought I'd better be clear)

(Which kind of ruins the joke)

(sad)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, October 29, 2001 10:54:47 PM
IP: a010-0929.dll2.splitrock.net

DPH> Ah, so you want to shed the "Nice Guy" image. Good. Very good. I never went in for it myself.

First and foremost, pick someone evil to admire. A villain. I've got quite a few myself. David Xanatos, Demona, Thailog, Dr. Hannibal Lecter, Megatron/Galvatron, Spike (when he was evil), Joker, Ras al' Ghul, a bunch more.

Second, your personal appearance is important. I don't know what you look like, so this may not be necessary. But I wear my hair long, tied back in a pony-tail and a goatee. I also dress in black from head to toe, black duster, silver necklace (in my case a talon clutching an orb), black steel toe boots (perfect for kicking people in the nuts), and a piece of claw-like finger armor. For more formal occasions, I wear a black suit, dark gray shirt and solid black tie. Well dressed, but still evil looking.

Attitude is important also. You should stop caring about things, and be capable to laugh at the humilations of others. If your friend trips and falls, laugh at him. And you've got to smoke, or at least pretend to (but don't let anyone know).

You need to be able to easily piss people off easily. In five words or less.

Also, in my case, don't curse every other word. I don't. You want to sound evil and not nice. Not like gutter trash.

Anyone else want to add anything?
Greg Bishansky
Monday, October 29, 2001 10:33:14 PM
IP: dialup-209.246.78.19.dial1.newyork1.level3.net

I'm disappointed. I thought the CR would be scared if someone poured in a white powdery substance. I guess no person believes I am capable of being that mean. (Note to self: Must work on redefining image to be less of a nice guy) BTW, not all of it was powdered sugar: there was also baking powder and baking soda.

Happy birthday Lady Mystic and Warpmind.

**DPH snaps his his finger and a chorus of harmonous holographic singers appears to sing:
Hap-py birth-day to ~you~
Hap-py birth-day to ~you~
Hap-py birth-day to (breathe) Lady Mystic
Hap-py birth-day to (breathe) Warpmind
hap-py birth-day to ~you~
and many more and kick you out the door
I always knew programming a group of harmonous holographic singers would come in handy one day.**

Imzadi - Did the guy admit he's a dangerous driver? Hey, I'll admit I'm a dangerous driver, especially when I start applying physics.

GXB - I agree wholeheartedly about sports preempting other things. Aren't there enough sports channels around already? Wait, don't tell me: some people want a sports channel dedicated to each sport.

Yes, I do realize if the CR reset itself things could get . . . hairy. One of the damn rules would have to be it can't reset itself twice within 84 hours (3.5 days). Now, if we could make it smart enough to save the old file with a different name each time, things wouldn't be too bad.

<The road to hell is paved with good intentions. -Samuel Johnson> But narrow is the way to heaven.

Imzadi - post envy? I gave up on trying to have one of the largest posts when I stopped RPing. I just try to make sure that my posts are larger than half of the other posts. < My roommate doesn't seem to understand this. He thinks that any
people I meet in a Gargoyles CR must be nuts. When in reality, only the people at the convention are nuts ;-).>Wait a minute: you're saying because I didn't attend the convention, I'm not crazy. Even if I have to borrow money, I am definitely going to the convention next year.

I found a way to get around that bug in VB. I played around with it some more and found out the function really doesn't work right at all.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, October 29, 2001 09:29:40 PM
IP: max1-29.cwy.cei.net

sigh...

sorry im just big on birthdays.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Monday, October 29, 2001 08:51:43 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

Greetings all... Recovering from my stint at NecronomiCon 2001, and this was suposed to be a day of rest. HAH! I ended up going down to Radio Shack to get a audio spliter for mom's new DVD player, bought some stuff I guess I should have waited for but considering my girl's birthday is coming up soon, I had to do something, and also ended up going out again when Mom got home, because grandmother needed stuff from Sam's Club right away.

Ish, and I go back to work in the morning.

Anyway, Necro was a blast! Got to meet Walter Jon Williams (a writer), Linda Evans (a floridian writer) and Tim Zahn and his missus once more...god he's a great guy! Even got a positive reaction from him when I told him I reviewed his "Specters of the Past/Visions of The Future" double novel in Sabledrake Magazine. Did some gaming, watched some videos (new title for you HK nuts! Watch SHAOLIN SOCCER! IT ROCKED!), and hosted my writing workshop. Also got to talk on a few fanfic panels, including a slash panel (erk!), and also got to participate on a fan version of "The Weakest Link". I didn't last long, but I only left just before the final round...got to interupt the mediator and say "I am the Geekest Link, Goodbye!" ^_^

Also got to speak to Virginia Hey - she played Zhaan on FARSCAPE. A very sweet lady, and so fan friendly! She's also damn gorgeous without the blue makeup! Very elfin in her complexion! I told her she should have gotten the role of Gladrielle in LOTR, and she chuckled and said "Well, write me a role in a script like that, and I'll do it!" ^_^ Got to love her! She also came up to the hotel bar late saturday afternoon, and blew the bartender away with "I'm not usually into drinking, but I'd fancy a cocktail." IMO, that rocks that she'd be that comfortable at a fen con to let loose like that. ^_^

Got some good swag away from the con too, since I had a little money to spend this year...

Two art pieces from the Art Show: furry art! Yeah!
Two collectible card sets: Omaha the Cat Dancer & Wildstorm Lingerie
Some sketches of some characters I'm using in my erotica novella
The IRON CLAW RPG sourcebook
A color print of the mascot for Anime Sushi - an orlando-based anime group
An 8 inch dagger with sheath (for 10 bucks!)
And a figurine bust titled "Nude on the Sands"... That's now sitting on my TV. ^_^

Overall, had a good time, and got some very strong encouragement for my novella... hope to have it done and printed by next year.

And, that's all from me for now... oh, except for HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LM and Warpy!

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Monday, October 29, 2001 08:42:31 PM
IP: 6535134hfc79.tampabay.rr.com

Just popping in here...

I am kinda late on the whole 9-11/TGS debate, and I really don't think it should be incorporated. But on the issue of what affect the Gargs would have on the situation, it seems like no one has noticed the fact that the Gargs wouldn't be any help in the rescue effort until a good eight hours after the inital strike.

Also no one seemed to notice the influence Xanatos would have in that situation. With his corporation and available manpower he could mobilize an army of construction workers and emergency response personnel quite quickly to aid the effort. Plus he'd have the Castle's Steel Clan division, he could have them on the scene within minutes and their never tiring strength would be a great benefit.

I actually would doubt the Gargs could have as much of an impact as we might think. Xanatos on the other hand would. It seems that his power and influence in the Gargoyles universe would be the force to be reconed with...
Skippy The Klingon - [<==Visit Skippy's Domain of Spiffiness!!!]
Monday, October 29, 2001 08:22:29 PM
IP: ppp57.tele-base.net

Hap-py birth-day to you
Hap-py birth-day to you
Hap-py birth-day dear (deep breath) LadyMysticandWarpmind (real fast)
Hap-py birth-day to you!!

aaaaaaaand many moooooooooore ...

Happy? ;)

World Series: I had two teams going into the post-season ... the Seattle Mariners and Ravyn's beloved D'Backs. I am *very* pleased that they're not rolling over for the Yankees to scratch their belly. I would be extremely happy to see this year's Series go the same way as the '87 Series ... home team winning every game, just so that Arizona could stretch their starting rotation to five pitchers so that Johnson could close out the Series. :)

(And believe me, you'll never hear me say that again ... in '87, the Minnesota Twins got to the Series by playing dirty against *my* Detroit Tigers.)

'Sall for me for now. **snaps his fingers, and two Exectution^TM cakes appear out of nowhere in the room, then snaps again and remotes appear in LM and Warpy's hands** Pick yer flavors, folks. And yes, I *have* become a Q in training, why d'you ask? :)

**returns Ravyn's celebration kiss on his way out**
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, October 29, 2001 08:21:23 PM
IP: 64.243.214.26

**sticks out tongue right back and grins** Hey, I never was good with following directions! ;)

Sorry for not singin' along, but Happy Birthday anyway! ;)
Ravyn
Monday, October 29, 2001 08:16:17 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Quick announcement -- have started a new mailing list for Sabledrake; to subscribe, click or go to http://sabledrake.com/mailman/listinfo/drakechatter_sabledrake.com

::adds birthday wishes, tosses confetti, scrambles off to try and nap before work::
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, October 29, 2001 08:07:34 PM
IP: 13-018.075.popsite.net

Hap-py birth-day to ~you~
Hap-py birth-day to ~you~
Hap-py birth-day to (breathe) LadyMysticandWarpmind (say fast!)
Hap-py birth-day to YOU!!!

aaaaaaaaaand maaany moooooore!

*sticks out tongue at Ravyn* I followed the directions, I get a gold star now ;p *L*
Jan
Monday, October 29, 2001 07:44:02 PM
IP: modem17-55.mo-net.com

*looks sternly at Ravyn*

RAVYN!!!! you were s'possed ta sing along with me! aww!

well, I tried!

happy birthday!
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Monday, October 29, 2001 07:39:35 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

Happy Birthday, LM and Warpmind!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Ravyn
Monday, October 29, 2001 07:35:08 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Lady Mystic and Warpmind- HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!! Im gonna start the song and EVERYONE (just copy and paste it, lazy people) better sing it !! k here goes.

Hap-py birth-day to ~you~
Hap-py birth-day to ~you~
Hap-py birth-day to (breathe) LadyMysticandWarpmind (say fast!)
Hap-py birth-day to YOU!!!

aaaaaaaaaand maaany moooooore!
--------------------------------
kewl, happy birthday!

Becoming a TGS staff member- aw, shucks. Looks like i have to be here a bit longer to become a true patriarch! damn. :)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Monday, October 29, 2001 07:13:31 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

Christine> ohmy! I don't envy you with the birthday parties... however, I'll be standing in your shoes again in a few years. *shudders* Sounds like Becca had a great time, though. You've created a memory that will last her forever. =)

Patrick> *L* I love the cartoon! Speaks volumes of truth.

Shadowrider> I had the same experience with s8. I "studied" up on Gargoyle info and attempted to at least know what they were talking about, but not one person responded to me. Besides, talking at great lengths over a possible motive to an action... well, it bores me. I guess I'm too ADD to be *that* involved with Gargs.

Eyrie Building: I don't know if it can or can't be done, but it would look awesome if it could! :)

Lady Mystic and Warpmind> HAPPY BIRTHDAY! =) *throws confetti around*

Vashkoda> Denis rarely posts in here anymore.... personal reasons. He ocassionally posts in s8, I believe. He doesn't have much time online anymore because of his job and our time differences. =(

Josh> whoa! I'm glad that you are alright and that you were not in an accident! *hugs* I'll bet it cleared your sinus right up, huh? *chuckles*

Dumb people: first, the 2 escapees were captured in Rapid City... they had stolen a truck here from a car dealer - but they chose one from the REPAIR department! *L* The transmission was bad and the truck wouldn't go in reverse.
Good news is that they still had merchandise from the home that they broke into so the sheriff here is going to file charges against them. (it was his daughter's house)

Second, a man filed a complaint that his ex-wife had pulled a gun on him during a custody dispute. (she didn't) Why is this dumb? the guy is blind. ummmmm.... HOW did he know if she pulled a gun or not? *L* No where in his statement did he say that she _told_ him that she had a gun.

Third, I received a phone call today:
lady: my ex-boyfriend is at the apartment and I have an ex-parte against him
me: he's been served with an ex-parte?
lady: no, it's at the courthouse, I just came from there.
me: ma'am, if he hasn't been served by an officer, he isn't restricted from going there.
lady: but he's there now
me: yes ma'am, I understand... but until he is served he's not violating something he knows nothing about.
lady: he's at the apartment now and the ex-parte says that he can't go there
me: *moment of silence* ma'am? AFTER he is served, then he will be in violation - until that point, he can go there if he wants to. (I had already established that this is his home too)
lady: but the ex-parte says he can't.
me: yes ma'am, I'll get someone on this right away.
lady: thank you, officer.

*chuckles* I'm not an officer, I'm just the secretary!

I had to take a drug urine test today... eesh. I had to make a list of all of the medications that I take in case my results come back positive. If it comes back positive, they will immmediately give me another one. I will also go to my private doctor and have an independent test ran.

Greg> I had a prof that would shoot mini-kooshballs if you decided to take a nap or be disruptive during his class. *L* There were many times during my teaching career that I would have given my left arm for a kooshball gun! I did at one time use a squirt bottle ;) Of course, I made it "fun" so that I wouldn't get into trouble.

I hate the time change.
Jan
Monday, October 29, 2001 06:58:28 PM
IP: modem17-55.mo-net.com

CHRISTINE - Yep, I remember that story of yours and Fox's telling Titania off. Good point, too, though I can understand why they didn't really cover the consequences of it in "The Gathering". After all, if we actually saw the full-scale consequences to New York of all the humans falling asleep, and the danger that they were thereby in, I think that the whole issue of "who gets Alex" would seem trivial by comparison; in fact, one could argue that what the gargoyles *ought* to have been doing was going around rescuing sleeping humans from danger, pulling them out of crashed cars and trucks, or from buildings on fire, rather than stopping Oberon from abducting Alex. (Maybe Titania did some minor intervention to ensure that no harm would befall the humans whom Oberon had put to sleep - she does mysteriously vanish during the bulk of the attack until just after Oberon breaks into the nursery).

Of course, it is tempting to wonder if the consequences/aftermath of Oberon's sleep spell (not to mention the consequences/aftermath of the events in "City of Stone", and goodness knows what else during the period between "Awakening" and "Hunter's Moon") had anything to do with the public hostility towards the gargoyles when they were revealed to the world; i.e., after all the bizarre catastrophes taking place in New York, people are looking for a scapegoat. (Think of 14th century Europe; during the Black Death, persecutions of the Jews went up).

ROBBY - Haven't read "The Princess Bride" myself, but am interested to learn of yet another "fictional book" out there, to be placed on the same shelf as Abdul Alhazred's Necronomicon.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 29, 2001 06:53:21 PM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup251.dialsprint.net

Warpmind- Actually, where The Princess Bride is concerned... Morgenstern's unabridged version doesn't exist. Morgenstern doesn't exist. The "uncut" copy of The Princess Bride is one of the 10 most infamous books that doesn't really exist. Goldman just pulled a big con while writing the book to basically, be able to skim over all the parts of the story that should have been in there, but he didn't want to write because he DID find them boring. The original book actually came before the screenplay, but everything in the book is setup as quite a con. (This is why his name is so prominently on the cover of the book, with a tiny sidenote "From the original text of Morgenstern's classic". He fools pretty much everybody, myself included, mostly because he goes into such odd details about his personal life in the course of it.

All that said, the movie is VERY good. But the book is better.
Robby
Monday, October 29, 2001 06:34:31 PM
IP: ac8ab813.ipt.aol.com

**Look everyone! Jaden's posting twice in a 24 hour period. It's only supposed to happen once every ten thousand years!

Christine-A "wild children" Birthday party? Ah the joys of parenthood. If I ever have a child I too will probably follow the tradition and have kids jumping up and off the walls, wanting more candy, more music, and horsie rides. Hard to believe that it's been a year. I hope Becca had a nice time.

I get to have my cable hooked up today and I praying for Toon Disney. Pleeeease!

Later.

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 29, 2001 05:37:32 PM
IP: aca6ef2e.ipt.aol.com

Hola everyone! Here again, just for a few minutes, I have a long night of studying expecting me...:(

Interesting discussion about the possibility for the Eyrie building to sustain the Wyvern castle without slumping on the ground. I probably am too late for contributing, and also I am not a structural engineer (my sector is aerodynamics...and, by the way, such a tall structure with a non-aerodynamically shaped body like a medieval castle on its top is going to feel a VERY big effect from winds even in normal days...not to mention a thunderstorm...), but my opinion is that such a structure is not possible at the present day. Not such a thin building, for sure not with the structure shown in the series. I refer to the wide transparent sector through which you could see the castle's foundations. Since no supporting structure was shown, just a few thin metal struts in the glass surfaces, it was going to mean that the huge weight of the castle is not distributed on the whole base surface of the building, but only on a small part of it. An asymmetrical load of thousabds of tons, it means...it is not my field, but I think it simply cannot stand...not in ideal conditions, for sure not in any special situation (strong winds, earthquakes of even smallest entity and so on...)

Station 8:> I see somoone is talking about it, so here's my two cents. A short time after I started posting here (read: a year and a half ago) I tried posting there too. For a few days I posted daily, with contributions to ongoing discussions and answers to general questions issued by various people. Obviously, I made some mistakes all the time, since nobody ever got the disturbance of replying to me or even acknowledging my presence. When I arrived here the first time, instead, a lot of people welcomed me and started talking. Conclusions? I won't try any, anyone can make them up by himself...

Green Baron:> <<Salvatore Giuliano>> Yes, I know of him...a Sicilian bandit of the WWII's immediate aftermath. An ambiguous figure...with some independentistic ideas. Officially killed in a shooting with a Carabinieri patrol, more probably eliminated by the Mafia. Actually, what I don't understand is...why did you mention him?

Warpmind:> Ok, I know it's a long while we don't talk, but I have a question for you...are you ready for the € (Euro)?
( ;-) )

No more time. Try to post tomorrow, but cannot guarantee. See everyone!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Monday, October 29, 2001 04:19:43 PM
IP: h213-103-67.mi.albacom.net

*Warpmind strolls in with a BIG grin on his face.*
Hee, hee... Great day today... Just saw Little Shop of Horrors. The 1960 Corman version. Hilarious! }:)

David G: Nessie appeared in one of the World Tour episodes. Don't recall the title at the moment, though...

Gside: Try number 4 or 5, I think. But the two first don't really count; with those, I didn't really get far on the first map, anyway.

Josh: Personally, I favored Reptile in MK2... There was just something about finishing the fight with biting the opponent's head off... };)

Revel: I'd say it was a close race between Princess Bride the Book and the Movie... Still, it must be taken into consideration that the book version I read was the Goldman abridgement, which he wrote out of the screenplay (Goldman wrote the screenplay first), and I haven't read Morgenstern's unabridged version. Still, I hear the full story's rather... dry.

Aaron: Welcome back.

Lady Mystic: We share birthday? Now there's a surprise... :O

Well, that's about all I had time for today... *Sigh* I turned 22 today... The odd thing is, I don't really feel older, just a bit more ancient... explain that if you can...
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, October 29, 2001 03:56:31 PM
IP: mp-216-46-124.daxnet.no

Patrick > I think she needs more ideas for sequels like I need more ideas for sequels ... ; ) As for City of Stone, I remember broaching a similar issue in my fanfic "Mother's Day," in which Fox ripped Titania up one side and down the other for all the people who suffered thanks to being put to sleep by Oberon. There's consequences for that sort of thing, all right!

Josh > an engineer? Maybe, but every time anyone asks her what she wants to be, she vehemently holds to her desire to drive an ice cream truck ...

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, October 29, 2001 02:39:12 PM
IP: 13-039.075.popsite.net

Vashkoda: <<Happy birthday!>>
Thank you! :)
<<Just to add to your "where are they now" explanation... and doesn't Denis still post here?>>
Thanks for the info! I'd forgotten that Rahsaan changed his handle to Taleweaver. I'm not sure if Denis still posts here... maybe he does under a different handle or maybe he posts vary rarely.
<<Flynt>>
Could you give me his current email address? I tried contacting him concerning his TGS artwork but never got a reply.
<<GNC update>>
You're welcome for the alert and thanks for mentioning FS and I in the announcement. :)
Lady Mystic - [<-- GMC2004 bid !!!]
Monday, October 29, 2001 02:31:22 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Lady Mystic> Happy birthday! Just to add to your "where are they now" explanation, Laudre and DumlaoX can still be found on #gargoyles in IRC; Rahsaan = Taleweaver; Madbrook, Llewelyn, Flynt and ED are all part of Clan Steelclaw; I saw A Fan at the last con; and doesn't Denis still post here?
Vashkoda
Monday, October 29, 2001 02:08:09 PM
IP: dyn-122-194.res.aecom.yu.edu

I have one month to read three books for my Auto History class and I'm on page 6 or the first one. Normally I'd say no big deal, I can polish off a 400 page novel in a weekend, but it has to be something that I wanted to read, like I really care about reading essays on how the automobile was the downfall of American society. I took the class because I wanted to look at cars and I needed an advanced history for my minor. Just my rant of the day.

Carolynn- I don't think that it is so much that they don't know the stuff they produce is crap it's just that if they produce nothing then their company will be forgotten. At least if they make crap someone can say, "Yeah that movie sucked, but it had (insert name here)in it." It's not about quality from my point of view.

Patick- I have the best answer when it comes to why things happen in mivies, TV, etc. IT WAS IN THE SCRIPT!
Don't complicate things with facts of reality, it dulls the moment. ]:)

GregX- I like being at baseball games, but on TV it's rather boring. That's like watching auto racing or an air show on TV you just don't get the feeling and the noise, gotta have the noise.

LM- looks good to me.

eddie izard- "Well do you have a flag?"
"No."
"No flag, no country!"

Castle- I want my castle on the ground so everyone can see it. I want postal workers and Jahovas witnesses to tremble when they knock on my draw bridge, if they can even reach it. ]:)

"Do not overlook my butt, reaping burns lots of calories."
-Death, Bill&Ted's Bogus Journey-

Later

Revel - [Samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Monday, October 29, 2001 01:33:32 PM
IP: 129.120.255.222

We had a cold snap here folks. Sunday morning it was 52 degrees outside. It wasn’t exactly that cold all weekend. Some days it was brisk, and at other times it was nippy.

I have tried the new Simpson’s cereal. Homer’s is nice and cinnamony and Bart’s tastes a little like a Butterfinger.

I also have been eating a little better, yes sometimes for dessert I would have some fruit. Not just any old fruit either. I had fresh figs, and red grapes that were sooo sweet and juicy. Yellow skinned watermelon and pomegranate . My mom loves fresh strawberries and I wish I had some fondue to make chocolate dipped strawberries and orange slices.

Glad we had daylight savings, we can get back to God’s time. And I so enjoyed that extra hour of sleep.

Now for replies
SJ <<Just as long as there are no wonder twins, I shall remain happy. I see any Wonder Twins, I'm gonna poke my own eyes out.>> but what if they did this :Jaina “Form a Eliza Dushku” Zan” Form a Wonder Woman’s bath water”

Firestorm<<Word to self>>Keep your kinky fantasies to yourself mister!

Carolynn Marie ((You know that is exactly my mother‘s first and middle name???)<> Typical these days, << Several critics have already reviewed it (go to darkhorizons.com) and say it's the worst piece of crap to swing in on a Bata rang since Batman & Robin (which was pretty bad, folks)>>>It can‘t be any worse than Batman and Robin can it?. <<The Cat woman isn't even Selina Kyle, but a new character, Precious Price (okay, the name flunks right there).>>I guess they couldn’t use Pussy Galore <<And it doesn't even take place in Gotham, but in a small town where Cat woman tries to stop the evil contracting developer or whatever he is from building the place up and taking away its quaint character (and y'all know how evil it is to help build up a town, right?).>>>Just as long as she doesn’t run into that Teen Clark Kent from Small Ville << The clincher is Cat woman appearing right beside a woman and her daughter in a clothing store. The girl's complaining about her body while trying on clothes, and Cat woman stops to inform her about the benefits of having a big butt.>>Cat woman is Really J.LO!

GXB <<So, anyone else ever have teachers like this?>> Well sort of. I had a math teacher who could have done what Mr. Vogel said he did. It was during my first year in high school and well the budget cuts were causing many teachers to be laid off so the students from the main campus decided to protest, they came to the ninth grade center and rioted. My teacher just opened the back door and gave a look that could rival Goliath’s angry glare.

Josh <<Well folks, I'm back. I actually came back from Santa Cruz directly after Rocky, getting to the apartment at about 3AM (after the time shift). Pretty good time, actually, but then again there was ZERO traffic (as is prone to happen at 2 in the morning).>> The beauty of staying up until that hour..No Traffic

<<The show itself was decent, but I was thoroughly disappointed with the audience. I go to Santa Cruz once or twice a semester for the sole purpose of being surrounded by beautiful women. This time, it looked like the ugly stick had gone on a rampage through campus.>> LOL << And before you say "its rocky, what do you expect?",>> Let me tell you what I expect, men with tight butts in fishnets.

The drive down was slow, and consisted mostly of my roommate bitching a lot about his two friends he's starting a programming company with. I pity anyone who has to work with this guy in real life. Two hours listening to my roommate talk (I'm fully convinced that he could go on forever given the opportunity)>>Sounds like my dad <<requires a great deal of patience and totally familiarity with his topics of choice...good thing I know a lot about macs and a little about Cocoa. Now I know more about both.<<Since Cocoa is chocolate and since you love Macs

<< Then a dress rehearsal right before the show, teaching Trixie how to strip properly (I can't believe some hot girls aren't born with this knowledge!)>>See you got to see at least one hot girl.

Patrick <<I found myself wondering over the weekend what happened to the people in "City of Stone" who saw and heard the spell just before boarding flights to other cities. Surely the passenger next to you turning to stone during the flight would cause some alarm. And what about the incoming flights trying to land in the NYC area after sunset? Assuming air traffic control was too busy landing planes to have been watching TV, wouldn't the folks getting off those flights find it odd that everyone else in the city has turned to stone? NYC doesn't exist in a vacuum, after all.>> I’ve been wondering about something similar to “The Mirror” since it first aired.

Todd <<Good point about "City of Stone", Patrick, and one that I hadn't thought of before.

For that matter, it's tempting to wonder what happened to people entering or leaving New York in "The Mirror".... >> Exactly what I have been talking about. I mean imagine you on a bus from Jersey((Ugh)) and you enter Manhattan after Puck’s spell has been cast and you see a city filled with gargoyles, and they think you are the monster? Or I have been pondering this one for years now. What if someone was exactly on the dividing line that cut off Manhattan from the rest of the world when the spell was cast. Would they be like two face? One half of their body human, and the other gargoyle?

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl
Monday, October 29, 2001 11:40:59 AM
IP: 1cust70.tnt3.orl3.da.uu.net

**GASP** A regular post! ;)

<-- Another potential pic for my posts. ;)

Note: I'm going to refrain from posting my email address as much as possible due to the junk mail I get whenever I even write the address in here, let alone post it in the email form field. **growls** My email address can be found on the TGS CR Admin page.

Imzadi: <<That would be interesting, since sometimes it would reset itself on wednesday, creating a three-day file for LM to play with, sometimes it would create a 7-day...hmmm, this has potential to do nothing but DRIVE HER NUTS.>>
**L** The thing that would drive me ABSOLUTELY nuts is making sure I saved the backed up file (old_index.html) before it gets wiped at random! Even with how often I have been manually saving the CR I would probably miss data, which in itself always annoys me.
<<Looks good to me, but then again I meet them all, so my opinion may be biased ;-)>>
True. :)
<<My only concern is that you're the only one deciding if a post is valid. Not that I think you WILL be biased, but there's always the possibility.>>
I agree. I'm hoping I will be as unbiased as humanly possible (if not all the time then at least as often as possible) and that the eligibility requirements and restrictions won't just administer applicants but also my decisions.

NukesGoBoom: << sorry im dense :)>>
Don't worry about it. I'm sorry for causing the misunderstanding. I should have elaborated more when I wrote the announcement.

Fire Storm: <<Me, Todd Jensen, Spike, Mandi Ohlin, Lady Mystic, and Coyote>>
Is that all? I thought there were more people who still post in here...
**checks the page**
DumlaoX still has ties to people in the fandom and posts here once in a blue moon. Jessica Entis and Rahsaan Footman are listed as part of the current TGS staff. Theresa Sorrell, Wavelength, Jackal, The One Eyed Squid, and Mary Flanders post in here once in a blue moon. I think Laudre, ED, Ordell, and Queen Tanika are still in the fandom. I'm pretty sure AotN is still in the fandom. Merlin Missy is still online. Flynt, Adrienne, Doug Elder, and Apollo might still be in the fandom, but I'm not certain. Vashkoda is *definitely* in the fandom (she runs the GNC and posts at s8) and occasionally posts in here. I haven't a clue concerning the remaining posters.

In light of today: IT'S MY BIRTHDAY! :)
For those interested: My astrological signs are Scorpio and the Horse, with Chi characteristic of Earth.
Lady Mystic
Dearborn, MI
Monday, October 29, 2001 11:02:41 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Good point about "City of Stone", Patrick, and one that I hadn't thought of before.

For that matter, it's tempting to wonder what happened to people entering or leaving New York in "The Mirror"....
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 29, 2001 07:30:11 AM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup247.dialsprint.net

Aaron > I looked back over that story, and you're right. Almost spooky now... that was written over two years ago.

Josh > I still had the thing sitting around my house until I moved two years ago... but I'll dry to draw a diagram of it and scan it when I get a spare moment today. Work is kinda of slow right now... so there's lots of spare moments to be had.

Christine > Harry Potter on Mars - Hey... be careful or you'll give them ideas for more sequels. :P

Random thought > I found myself wondering over the weekend what happened to the people in "City of Stone" who saw and heard the spell just before boarding flights to other cities. Surely the passenger next to you turning to stone during the flight would cause some alarm. And what about the incoming flights trying to land in the NYC area after sunset? Assuming air traffic control was too busy landing planes to have been watching TV, wouldn't the folks getting off those flights find it odd that everyone else in the city has turned to stone? NYC doesn't exist in a vacuum, after all.

And finally for this morning... click my name for an editorial comic I scanned from today's paper. Thanks to the artist's choice of layout, once more I have to lean to the right.
Patrick Toman
Monday, October 29, 2001 07:13:24 AM
IP: ac8b77fc.ipt.aol.com

BISHANSKY - Yes, I know the feeling too. I've also found it disappointing when a television program that I was looking forward to was pre-empted because a baseball or football game ran longer than expected - or was suddenly scheduled in unexpectedly. That sort of thing doesn't make me too fond of televised sports myself.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 29, 2001 07:03:17 AM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup247.dialsprint.net

Well folks, I'm back. I actually came back from Santa Cruz directly after Rocky, getting to the apartment at about 3AM (after the time shift). Pretty good time, actually, but then again there was ZERO traffic (as is prone to happen at 2 in the morning).

The show itself was decent, but I was thoroughly disappointed with the audience. I go to Santa Cruz once or twice a semester for the sole purpose of being surrounded by beautiful women. This time, it looked like the ugly stick had gone on a rampage through campus. And before you say "its rocky, what do you expect?", let me tell you that the last few Rocky shows produced by my friend Zach were filled with gorgeous women dressed to the nines in...nothing. So my expectations were reasonable.

The drive down was slow, and consisted mostly of my roommate bitching a lot about his two friends he's starting a programming company with. I pity anyone who has to work with this guy in real life. Two hours listening to my roommate talk (I'm fully convinced that he could go on forever given the opportunity) requires a great deal of patience and totally familiarity with his topics of choice...good thing I know a lot about macs and a little about Cocoa. Now I know more about both.

Once we got there, we just kind of hung around the theater helping the cast prep for the show, moving stuff around, setting up chairs, etc. Then a dress rehearsal right before the show, teaching Trixie how to strip properly (I can't believe some hot girls aren't born with this knowledge!)...all that actually took up three hours.

Mike and I selected some seats removed from the rest of the audience for the VIP's (other friends of Zach's) where we could look down and see all the audience members. I think we saw ONE cute girl besides the girls who were with Zach's friends (and Zach's friends are some of the coolest guys on Earth, so they deserve babes...for now).

The show itself was not bad. Three of us from LA were doing most of the "audience" participation...we had the audience in stitches a couple times. And when it was over, we decided to skip the cast party and just leave the city, since there were no decent prospects for either of us.

And then I almost died. That was a new one for me, being immortal and all.

The drive back was nice and silent...since mike had a pounding headache. Although, I can't recommend taking the 17 freeway at 90...we fishtailed violently and nearly went into a spin and nearly hit the divider. It was quite scary, but Mike is a brilliant driver and recovered from it completely...of course the fact that his car is "the ultimate driving machine" doesn't hurt either.

So that was my waste of time in Santa Cruz. Note that this will not prevent me from going again in the future.

Todd Jensen: <<whether the original Death Star or the Return of the Jedi version was better>>: The Return one was far superior...or rather would have been once it was finished. <<trying to use their surveillance cameras to pick up free cable porn>>: what better thing to use them for!? <<nightmare at the Magic Box>>: I had a nightmare about a giant box once...oh, nevermind.

Greg X: Damn, first AND a huge post, how do you do it? <<Which makes three. Any other volunteers?>>: What do I get for being a ringwraith? <<The castle, the exo-suit, hot wife who knows six different forms of martial arts, brilliant assistant, the money heh, everything else as well>>: I'd be very happy with any one of those things...but I'd prefer the money if I could choose only one. <<Not like they don't have problems of their own>>: Seriously. <<They also say that they see a lot of hate here>>: That's because we don't talk about gargoyles 24-7. Besides, so what? It makes life interesting. <<You get to die in a TGS story?>>: WTF kind of prize is that?! <<Of all the things you can do to a person, giving them an orgasm is hardly the worst>>: Depends on whether or not its a revenge-f*ck. <<Today I went back to my High School for the first time since I graduated>>: I remember that. The quote I heard most was "Hey rollerboy, what are you doing here? Didn't you graduate?" <<As a matter of fact I hate the Yankees, many times have I missed my cartoons because they decided to play a game when my shows were on>>: I feel your pain. There's nothing more obnoxious than seeing my shows get cancelled because of Baseball. <<When I am king, baseball will get it's own damn channel, just so no more cartoons are cancelled for it. I'd ban baseball, but I figure that'd be more trouble than it's worth>>: You're generous. I'm banning it out right. If they've got a problem, they can take it up with my complaints department, which is a gas chamber cleverly disguised as an office building in Cuba. <>: Wow, I only got erasers thrown at me! <<Almost makes me miss High School. Almost>>: I actually do miss my senior year. My class lived in fear of me. I enjoyed that. I could definitely get used to the entire world feeling that. Even made some girls in my class become attracted to me (don't ask, I don't understand women). If I could repeat my senior year forever with different learning material each time, I'd be happy, I'd have fun...but then again I'm glad I'm out.

Anonymous: I'm sorry, but there's no way we should count a top ten spot for an anonymous person.

Coyote and Ravyn: <<We claim Top Ten *space* in the name of France this week!>>: Traitors!

DPH: <<2 hours have passed and the top 10 isn't complete?>>: It was worse at Gathering, as I recall. And I still made it in.

Carolynn: <<he's moving to Nevada>>: Is he having that much trouble getting laid? <<hairy eyeball>>: WTF is that? <<Aardvark boy>>: Creepy. I'd avoid that person. <<Virgins>>: Yeah, we all went through it...except me, cuz I "lost it" at a relaxed theater that really didn't care. <<thinking I'm real smart>>: Yeah, Rocky isn't filled with too many bright people. but every once in a while someone comes up with an idea like that and it gets adopted all over. It used to be "what color are Rocky's underwear?" but finally someone realized that any idiot that had rented the movie would know. <<eating a cherry off this girl's navel>>: Was it a cast member's navel? If so, I hope you washed your mouth out afterwards...those people are dirty (I know from personal experiences). <<screaming from the experienced part of the audience>>: Ah, gotta love Tourettte's Syndrome. <<RHPC is something you gotta watch on your VCR>>: Um, no. RHPS SUCKS. It is the WORST MOVIE EVER (well, possibly with the exception of Lost in Space). <>: I bet your boyfriend doesn't think so anymore either ;-) <<I'm just not a Rocky fanatic>>: I'm starting to lose interest myself, 100 shows later... <<cult showings of Monty Python>>: But you can't yell at the screen because then you'd miss all the funny stuff. <<if I got shot in the kneecap>>: Ugh, I don't even want to think about such things. <>: Umm...neat trick. <<Saving silverman>>: Oh come on, that movie ws funny.

Sorow: <<Do you think my handle is invalid>>: Its your handle. Its not like we can't figure out your real name from your email address. But if you switch to something other than that, it might get confusing. But do whatever you want. To me and SJ you'll always be that cutie from G2k1 ;-)

SJ: <<Coming to you 100% Anthrax free>>: I know Jen would just be crushed if you were otherwise. <<we should just go ahead and sprinkle anthrax on our cornflakes>>: I only put sugar on my cornflakes...and LOTS of it. <<will not be running episodes focused on the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks>>: Wuss. <<if you like Jon Edwards, than I'm sorry>>: If you do, you deserve to be sterilized. <<You couldn't pay me enough to watch it>>: I bet I could. Somewhere out there is a number that will make you sit in front of the boob tube and watch this bastard...I just have to find it ;-) <<I'm not talking the good (that is, girl-on-girl) kind>>: And even that's only good when both chicks are hot. <>: LOL. <<it could be like that South Park episode, where the dirty words lose their power. And how fun would that be? Not very much, I'll tell you!>>: We'll just have to invent new ones. <<you just know you're in trouble when someone utters the phrase, "I know for a fact">>: translation: I am making this up as I go along. <<How about "syphilitic mule-drinker">>: Uh... <<After watching the Britney Spears "Oops, I Did It Again" video countless times, I know everything that her gynecologist knows>>: And you wish you WERE her gynecologist, to boot. <<the restraining orders from the Catholic school girls>>: Gee, there's a shocker. <<Plus they can't stand the fact that we don't post 184 page long treatises upon Arthurian legends and / or the Culture and Biology of Gargoyles>>: We have LIVES. <<Note to S8: there IS a divide between "fun, socially adept geeks" and "very disturbing geeks.">>: My roommate doesn't seem to understand this. He thinks that any people I meet in a Gargoyles CR must be nuts. When in reality, only the people at the convention are nuts ;-) <<That's like juggling torches around a gas station>>: And you know you'd love every minute of it. <>: Der. <>: Der also. <<half the fun is decided which is which>>: You're the necro. <<At least the orgies aren't half bad>>: Are they all bad? <<they're like on every f-ing corner around where I live. It's disgraceful>>: Have you ever lead @ssholes into speed traps? I love doing that. <<I'd like to borrow that when you're done with it>>: Get in line. <<That's about the only way the SOROWs of the world will fawn over just shaking my hand.>>: Not if I'm king. <<You hire Jackie Chan to play Chen Kenichi>>: And it would still SUCK. <<I'm just stupefied that Tim freakin' Burton is able to get such hot women. Guy must know voodoo or something. Or have REALLY good crystal meth>>: Or just be really rich. <<I'm gonna poke my own eyes out>>: I wouldn't. You'll miss out on pictures of hot chicks. <<And I can't believe Johnny Depp dies in the end!>>: LOL. <>: Blasphemer!

Mooncat: <<didn't he know he had to do this and bring the Gargoyles to life, because one had half the Phoenix Gate. And Xanatos would need that to go back in time to start the course of events that would lead to his current fortune? So it wasn't a leap of faith, but fulfilling his destiny>>: No. He didn't find out about the gate until he got that letter a week before his wedding. <<Really really bad porn is actually fun>>: In my opinion, all porn is really bad. I've never seen any sort of porn that I couldn't laugh hysterically at.

Gside: <<Can I get a HALLELUJIA from the congregation>>: No. <<Data is Satan? But I like him>>: All the more reason for it to be appropriate. <<Hey, watch it>>: Whatever you say...duck. <<And I thought mine was bad with another MTh 8:10. >>: MWF 910, TTh 810. <<But they have numbers, right? Lots of numbers>>: Usually not. Maybe, if they're page numbers. <>: Chicks dig cash. <<leaving a couple days buffer in case I forget>>: I go without if I forget. And you didn't want to know that. <<another problem with that is that no one has a mac here>>: That's a user problem, not a programmer problem. <<Very carefully>>: Right, because you wouldn't want it to explode. <<Transforms up the wazoo>>: I am so glad I'm not EECS. And what happens when you perform a transform up the wazoo? <<According to Jim Kirk>>: Yeah, well what does he know? <>: They're not always soft and comfy. <>: I notice you didn't take the opportunity to say it. <<a lot of people use the pigment system to define their colors>>: Well they can argue with the physicists.

Entity: <<"The One"? Ugh. It looks like "Virtuosity" but with Jet Li and ripped-off Matrix effects!>>: I can't wait. <<Miss Cleo pisses me off more>>: She found a way to spam me. She is going to hell.

Fire Storm: <<Never do a search for a file>>: If you'd index your hard drive, ti wouldn't take so long. <<Maybe the building is held together by magic>>: Hmmm, possibly. <<variant of the force field>>: Now THAT is a much better idea. <<it probably DID get unstable or is getting unstable>>: I'd imagine a good groundshaker would put it over. <<You and SJ are PURE evil!>>: ::blushes:: <>: awww, he's such a cute little evil... ;-) <<if we do, it's very hard to find someone to prove it to>>: Except our women. <<But what good is that>>: If you have ex's that you still get along with, they can make you look VERY good to future prospects. <<when I can get 100tons of Titanium>>: What's taking so long? <<we are truly geeks>>: You doubted? <<that's exactly what the ad is for>>: Hehe, I know way too much. <<$1000 a week>>: !? How many samples? <<Isn't there a "k" sound>>: Eh, maybe. It took me long enough just to remember it. <>: Yeah yeah, me too. <<Actually getting Gorebash to post the code is another matter>>: Is there a single good reason why he controls all this stuff by himself? <<It's an aquired taste>>: Yeah, its acquired by people who HAVE taste! <<SEND ME CHECKS>>: I'll think about it. <<Data or Satan>>: Both! <<He's really funky>>: A funky monkey? What are the odds ;-) <<helped him become part of TGS staff>>: ah, if only I had time for such exploits. <<some of the writers...write fic based on TGS>>: Yo. Now all I gotta do is post it ;-) <>: Shoulda dropped by my house.

Terrky: Shut up already. New eps will be posted when they're posted. No one knows when.

Lady Mystic: <<MEMBER ELIGIBILITY RESTRICTIONS>>: Looks good to me, but then again I meet them all, so my opinion may be biased ;-) My only concern is that you're the only one deciding if a post is valid. Not that I think you WILL be biased, but there's always the possibility.

Patrick: Fine, I yield. You win. I don't have the energy to argue this anymore, especially since I won't BE a civil engineer anyway. But I will be investigating this further as I start research next semester. <<the group that I was in>>: I'd really like to see this. Do you have any pictures? If not, can you describe it better?

Daphne: <<yes, we behaved>>: Why? <<when I got back to my dorm, there was no skin left on my left heel.>>: Sounds like my backpacking trip in the Sequoias. <<actually we has another hypothesis, but I'm gonna behave and not express it unless someone asks me really nicely>>: Will you please tell me? ;-) <>: Debt is such a useful thing, isn't it? <>: Just out of curiosity, where the f*ck were girls like you when I was in high school? <<he wore the red bandanna". we all cracked up>>: LOL. <<right back at ya, roomie!>>: Uh...no. Not this one. <<unless, of course, english is your major>>: In which case your major is irrelevant. Sorry, I just like to bash humanities majors. <<not true>>: Right. Keep telling yourself that. Maybe I should just say "really stunningly beautiful celebrity chicks don't dig brains". <<ok, fair enough. but I'm not condoning it>>: That's fine, I don't need permission to be bitter ;-) <<blows raspberry at josh>>: Niamhgold has some...special...roommates ;-)

Smut Pandering Bitch Queen of All Creation: <<Harry Potter on Mars>>: Sweet! A future female engineer.

DPH: <<sometimes it takes dumb luck to get on the TGS staff. Of course, offering some hint of credentials does help>>: Not true. All I had to do was write a story that still hasn't seen the light of day. <>: That would be interesting, since sometimes it would reset itself on wednesday, creating a three-day file for LM to play with, sometimes it would create a 7-day...hmmm, this has potential to do nothing but DRIVE HER NUTS. <<It was nice to turn on my computer and not have to reset the clock>>: My copy of Win98 on VPC tried to reset the clock, but unfortunately its linked to my computer clock, which sets itself automatically. So even though Mac OS knew which time it was, Windows thought it was still an hour earlier than THAT. <<Hopefully, by now, my post is bigger than Daphne's>>: You suffer from post envy, eh?

Ravyn: <<registered for my classes for the spring semester this weekend>>: Yeah, i get to do that next week. Scary, isn't it? <<seems like the semester's going by really fast>>: Not fast enough. I hate this semester, and I've got big plans for winter break. I can't wait to stop going to school.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
-Samuel Johnson

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, October 29, 2001 03:17:50 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-25-186.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

I'm not interested in baseball, I'm not interested in whether the Yankees are winning or losing the World Series. As a matter of fact I hate the Yankees, many times have I missed my cartoons because they decided to play a game when my shows were on. That I won't forgive. When I am king, baseball will get it's own damn channel, just so no more cartoons are cancelled for it. I'd ban baseball, but I figure that'd be more trouble than it's worth. I swear though that all I know about baseball and the Yankees I learned from watching those "Seinfeld" episodes when George worked at Yankee Stadium.

Fire Storm> Since you asked, here's the story behind Dr. Vogel's "MR BLADE" Licence plate. It was a nickname he got in college. Vogel and his friends were out at 3 AM at a White Castle eating, and this nut comes in and holds the place up with a machette. Vogel calmly walks over to the payphone and calls the cops. The nut runs out the back and tosses his machette into a garbage can. The cops come but don't find the guy. An hour later, the nut comes back and Vogel is sitting on the garbage can, and the guy says "can you please move, I think I dropped something in there", Vogel says no, and he and his friends beat the crap out of the guy, and to this day, Vogel has that machette in his house.

Now, I don't know if this is true, or if Vogel is making this stuff up. He's told a number of stories like this in class, like the one where he ran out drunk on Yankee Stadium during a game. I never question them, cause if you upset him, he's likely to throw hard cover books at you (he's actually done that). Either way, it was entertaining to hear these stories in class. Almost makes me miss High School. Almost.

So, anyone else ever have teachers like this?

"Ah, to be a bird. To fly the skies, sing my song, and best of all occasionally peck someone's eyes out."
-George Carlin "Napalm and Silly Putty".
Greg Bishansky
Monday, October 29, 2001 12:50:04 AM
IP: dialin-426-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

**comes in and does a little happy dance**

Okay, just wanted to rub it in real quick ... my Diamondbacks rule!!! We're up 2-0 on the Yankees in the World Series. Woo hoo!!! :)

That's what having Curt Schilling and Randy Johnson pitching back-to-back will do for ya. Those guys are just awesome, along with the rest of the team.

I'd love to know what you all think about this Series. Especially you, SJ ... since you had said earlier that the other teams were lying down for the Yankees ... ;)

Oh, yeah, registered for my classes for the spring semester this weekend ... can you believe it's that time of year already? :) I can't ... it seems like the semester's going by really fast. :)

Go, D-backs! :)

**plants a victory kiss on Coyote before skipping out** :)
Ravyn "Rabid Diamondback Fan" Maza
Sunday, October 28, 2001 10:53:54 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

::looks at DPH:: hmm.... powdered sugar!

::makes lotsa sugarry stuff::

hullo.. i'm alive...I think

laters

Aingeal
Sunday, October 28, 2001 10:13:43 PM
IP: 207.42.162.194

Yo, Winterwolf, are you sending an Artic front to Arkansas? It's unseasonably cold here.

Good thing I experimented yesterday when making my supper. I mixed Mexican sytle Rotel with the Ground Beef and added onions and potatoes. The food will keep me warm.

Daphne - One suggestion. Don't wait until the last minute. Do a small part at a time so you don't feel overwhelmed.

Green Baron - thanks for bringing Daphne back.

Hopefully, another former BFTS RPer should make an appearance soon.

Carolyn <The last two years have shown enough that Hollywood doesn't care about quality but the possible money a cash cow can produce.>I guess that don't realize that if they spend a little more money on films to bring up quality, more people will come to watch.

NukesGoBoom - sometimes it takes dumb luck to get on the TGS staff. Of course, offering some hint of credentials does help.

Patrick <In the real world of civil engineering, there is a word used to describe an engineer who tells the client outright "It is impossible!" without investigating all the options: unemployed.>Maybe that's the problem with MicroShaft: they don't know when to stop and look at details to make sure the job is done right.

Terrky Are you the moderator or owner of any of those clubs? If not, you might not have permission to upload.

Carolynn Marie<<<The policy officially covers the cost of a ghost attack, an encounter with a space alien, and consequences from becoming a werewolf or vampire.>>>One question: should I consider trying to sell a device that keeps a person from ceasing to exist in the event history is altered? To collect on the money back guarantee in the event of product failure, you'd have to have proof of purchase AND valid identification.

Entity - so I guess I'm not the only one who thinks Miss Cleo's accent is fake. Of course, she has a bigger lawsuit on her hands when someone comes forward to contest the fact she answers every phone call as stated in her ad.

Silvadel - Actually, you made TOP 10. I had claimed spot #3 before noticing how long it took to fill the top 10.

Of course, I think the TOP 10 could be much more interesting if the CR was programmed to randomly reset itself once a week.

It was nice to turn on my computer and not have to reset the clock.

Hopefully, by now, my post is bigger than Daphne's.

Oh yea, I almost forgot something:
**DPH disappears for a few seconds and reappears wearing a suit of some sort. A few seconds later, DPH opens several portals to the CR and out of each portal flows a white powdery substance.**
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, October 28, 2001 09:55:24 PM
IP: max1-34.cwy.cei.net

Jaden > hi! How's it going?

Carolynn Marie > thanks for the rave review of the latest story!

Anyone remember last year when only one kid showed up for Becca's party and I whined? This time, we had four show up and they damn near drove us bonkers ... none of them wanted to leave ... but the pirate theme was a big success (the looks on the faces of the parents when they arrived to find their kids draped with beads a la Mardi Gras, except with eye patches too, was worth all the stress). Becca enjoyed it all, especially having Aunt Kathy visit for the weekend. She wasted no time combining the Lego Life on Mars with the Lego Harry Potter presents, so now we have Harry Potter on Mars.

I had other replies to make but my head's aching so I'm off to dinner and a collapse on the couch. Ta!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, October 28, 2001 09:47:07 PM
IP: 20-201.075.popsite.net

Oh it's going to be one of those months...Turns out that I have to get a bunch of medical stuff done to me just so I can at the Army standard, I may have to have my lower wisdom teeth taken out soon (I might be one of the lucky people who have to have their jaws broken to it too) and for some unknown reason I have not recieved any mail for the past three weeks. Oh well, how is everyone else?

Green Baron- Well the barracks are just above devastating, however Ft. Lewis is beautiful and I can't wait for the summer. How's Germany been treating you?

Christine-<Waves> Hiiiii!

SJ- Eddie Izzard? What have you heard? I love his stuff. I laugh so hard I cry.

Well gotta go shine my shoes and make my microwave dinner.

Later.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Ft. Lewis , WA
Sunday, October 28, 2001 07:43:20 PM
IP: acaa8f1b.ipt.aol.com

Evening, all!

ah, what a weekend. I spent the night at mike's dorm (yes, we behaved). it was cool, but I forgot to bring my sneakers, so I was walking to the train station and then from the train station to SJU in the heels I wore to dinner last night... which wouldn't have been too bad, but I got a huge run in my pantyhose, and threw them away, leaving me a pair of thick cotton socks to wear under the heels. when I got back to my dorm, there was no skin left on my left heel.
on the train, mike pays the conductor with a twenty, because he hadn't gotten any smaller bills since hitting the atm. the conductor goes "yeah, next time leave the 20s at home!"... but then accepts a 20 from this girl sitting near us. now, mike owed the guy $5 exactly, and this girl owed $3.50. we can only assume that this guy thought the girl was prettier. actually we has another hypothesis, but I'm gonna behave and not express it unless someone asks me really nicely :)

I love my next english project. we have to do a revision of a well-known work of fiction... I'm modernizing Little Women by Louisa May Alcott... any suggestions?

Entity>><If you can get it down to the hour, I might be able to do it.> sorry.

Sevarius Jr>><Aries: While cleaning your room for the first time this season> [gasping shocked voice] how... how did you know?????
<Bug dude gets bitten by radioactive bugs (and I could hear Marvel's lawyer's firing up their lawsuits),> that was what I thought. my suitemates, on the other hand, just kept asking me "who is he supposed to be??" of course, they think Chloe(?) is lois lane, and when I said that she's not, they remarked that she should be and asked me why she isn't.

<crocodile hunter movie, iron chef movie> I actually convinced mike to read that paragraph, and his eyes lit up. i think he'ss gonna drag me to it. oh, well... he'll owe me.

Niamhgold>><Well, at least you're not a Michaelangelo fan >
Hey! mikey was my favorite!!! uh.... when I was 7. now I prefer donatallo. I have a weakness for the brain of the suprehero group. of course, I know nothing about the comic, basing it on the cartoon and movies.
and my math class is very history-based, and for soem reason the profesor begins each new era with art history... he mentions Raphael, and of course, the whole class (ok, there's only 7 of us) snickers... the prof goes, "oh, you know him! what can you tell me about Raphael?" and one of my classmates goes, "he wore the red bandanna". we all cracked up.... the prof was pretending he knew what was going on.
hm. guess you had to be there.
<My roomie, a West-winger, says you are very intelligent ;>right back at ya, roomie!

Siofra>><'We have this anthrax. Now you die. Are you afraid> of course, as I recall they're known for misspellings... if theu had meant "we have this amtrak", we *shoul* be terrified.

Josh>><Bah, english class is irrelevant anyway> unless, of course, english is your major.
<Chicks don't dig brains.> not true! <At least not the ones you think you want in high school> ok, fair enough. but I'm not condoning it.
<<<<My roomie, a West-winger, says you are very intelligent>>: Yeah, but your roommate hasn't figured out how to use a can opener. >> [blows raspberry at josh]

Warpmind>><Heya, Daphne. LTNS> [waves]

Gside>><Fresh grilled chicked every lunch, a rotating saute line, and whatnot. > ooh... can I get takeout? my caf is ok, but that sounds nice.

GOd bless, all!

Daphne
the suburban bubble
Sunday, October 28, 2001 06:45:44 PM
IP: stu-elan125.sju.edu

Carolynn Marie: <Mommy, I'm afraid...>
Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.
Fire Storm
Sunday, October 28, 2001 05:57:33 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

SJ< "No Man's Land" was awesome, and I think it's easy to say that the Joker is the best villain of all time, even blowing away Darth Vader (who went good in the end ... Mr. J's just insane, I love it! ;D). He even considers blowing away Harley Quinn at some points in several issues, though I think in "No Man's Land" she was infinitely more crazy than the animated series. On TV, she was crazy but in a likeable way. In the comics she's completely gone; the Joker actually finds her singing to herself in a locked up basement.

And after he shoots Sarah in the head and brags to Gordon, Gordon loses it and shoots him in the kneecap. And the guy STILL keeps laughing ("You've got a sense of humor after all, Jim!" or something to that effect). Hell, if I got shot in the kneecap I'd be hopping mad and screaming my head off.

Great to hear about the new Gamain comics. Life is complete.

I hear they're planning a new Catwoman movie starring Ashley Judd, but the script is atrocious. Several critics have already reviewed it (go to darkhorizons.com) and say it's the worst piece of crap to swing in on a batarang since Batman & Robin (which was pretty bad, folks). The Catwoman isn't even Selina Kyle, but a new character, Precious Price (okay, the name flunks right there). And it doesn't even take place in Gotham, but in a small town where Catwoman tries to stop the evil contracting developer or whatever he is from building the place up and taking away its quaint character (and y'all know how evil it is to help build up a town, right?). The clincher is Catwoman appearing right beside a woman and her daughter in a clothing store. The girl's complaining about her body while trying on clothes, and Catwoman stops to inform her about the benefits of having a big butt. At which point I laughed my @ss off and desperately began searching amazon.com for Batman The Animated Series on DVD ... I need something GOOD dammit...

I heard something a while back about someone trying to develop a Sandman movie. I even found a script online which was pretty good but basically a rehash of Preludes & Nocturnes (which, IMHO, isn't one of Gaiman's best ... that honor is reserved, I think, for either Stardust or DreamHunters). Still, it's a start. The guy needs more recognition and a good movie would certainly help.

Anybody else thinking that Hollywood should stop with the cheesy Batman knock-offs and let DC Comics and folks like Bruce Timm and Michael Reeves over at Warner Bros. do their talented duty? I also heard what SJ said about there being a Crow 4 and I nearly birthed a cow myself. CROW 4?? Crow 2 was terrible enough, so bad I didn't even bother with Crow 3. Why Crow 4? Is there something fresh and invigorating that Hollywood can add to the fold? The last two years have shown enough that Hollywood doesn't care about quality but the possible money a cash cow can produce. Look at Saving Silverman. Look at Bubble Boy. Look at Joe Dirt. Look at Glitter. If people like us, who aren't even trained in film or scriptwriting or acting, can tell at first glance that something will suck, why can't the "professionals"?

Mommy, I'm afraid...
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Sunday, October 28, 2001 05:30:44 PM
IP: pc169-75.drew.edu

*In*

Firestorm: you haven't heard the version that's on "Live Noise"?

*Flops, down and returns to "staring at the fire". (for all those who doubt that this is productive, ask Aaron what I accomplished over the last three days...)*
Lynati
Sunday, October 28, 2001 03:27:29 PM
IP: kcx-ks19a-72.rasserver.net

NukesGoBoom: <Oh, by the way, how do you become a TGS staff memeber?>
Well, at the time of the Choosing, you need to bring the items for sacrifice to the Lords and Ladies of TGS.
Last time it was a baby lamb, a original relief of Osiris and Anubus, and a bottle of ketchup.
I wsa out of ketchup that day. :(

Seriously, though, they occasionally have recruitment drives. And it helps if you can actually contribute something. Can you write very well? Can you draw very well?
Those are two things that TGS usually needs.
BUT that dosn't mean that because you are a good writer you deserve a place on the staff.

And besides...
YOU JUST GOT BACK HERE! You don't need a job yet!
Fire Storm
Sunday, October 28, 2001 03:19:04 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Lady Mystic - sorry im dense :) So if I post once a week for 3 months then I am allowed to create a profile? Oh, by the way, how do you become a TGS staff memeber? Is it like, IMPOSSIBLE, that only the first and foremost were allowed to get this status because they were the founding people? Do you have to be a patriarch or matriarch of this gargoyle fandom to even be considered eligible? Im guessing its along those lines, cause not everyone is a staff memeber. Is it possible for me to get in? I know Robby is a staff member, and hes 19 (im 17). thanks for clearing it up for me, matriarch.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Sunday, October 28, 2001 01:57:55 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

YAY!! good news everyone! i didn't lose my job!!!! WOOWOO!!

*is danceing happily now*

must go

bye bye then

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Sunday, October 28, 2001 12:23:30 PM
IP: a010-0221.kscy.splitrock.net

NukesGoBoom: Frankly, no, the eligibility requirements and restrictions deal with submitting TGS Comment Room Member Profiles (profiles of people posting in here), NOT becoming a TGS Staff member. Visit my name link to learn more.
Lady Mystic
Sunday, October 28, 2001 11:55:20 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Lady Mystic- So all I have to do to join the TGS staff is simply make a good post once a week? Awesome, I got that covered.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Sunday, October 28, 2001 11:37:23 AM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

Josh > As a civil/structural engineer holding a four-year degree who's been working in the field for four years and is currently preparing for the Professional Engineer's exam, let me just impart one bit of wisdom to you and your fellow first and second year engineering students that was given to me and my classmates by a professer during Engineering 101 freshman orientation. In the real world of civil engineering, there is a word used to describe an engineer who tells the client outright "It is impossible!" without investigating all the options: unemployed.

Would it be difficult and expensive to put a stone castle atop a steel and concrete office building? YES. Would it be absolutely impossible? NO. Given the right resources, the right materials, and the right budget, just about ANYTHING can be built. Structural design itself is NOT the limiting factor, and hasn't been for decades now.

In the 1930s, the naysayers said the Chrysler Building and Empire State Building "couldn't be done" and they were proved wrong. In the late 1960s, many engineers said the WTC towers "couldn't be done" and they were proved wrong. And in the 1990s, many said the Petronas Towers "couldn't be done" and THEY were proved wrong, too. Are you sensing a theme here? I know I am.

So is the Eyrie Building is "top heavy?" Yes. Does that mean it cannot stand? Maybe in ancient Egypt, yes... but not today. We've come a long way from the "wider is better" phiilophy in building design. For example, in Seattle, there's a very famous "top heavy" tower that's still standing. In Toronot, there's another one... which still holds the record as the tallest free standing, self supporting structure in the world. But maybe not for much longer, as there's an engineer in Chicago who is currently looking for investors and a building site for a 1,999 foot tall tower. The only thing that kept him from designing it taller is FAA airspace restrictions which set the ceiling at 2,000 feet. It's not structural design that holds us back now... we're literally at the point where the sky is the limit!

Being "top heavy" doesn't automatically imply anything regarding the ability to resist the wind. In fact, in some modern buildings, heavy weights are purposefully placed on high floors to DAMPEN the affects that wind load has on the building. Do a little research on the John Hancock Building in Boston. This was a building that swayed so badly after it was opened, windows were popping out of their framses and people in the upper floors were getting seasick. It was retrofitted with dampers placed on a floor about 2/3 of the way up that are basically huge concrete blocks attached to springs. The same kind of solution could be applied to a tower like the Eyrie, to balance the great mass at the top.

As for how the rest of the structure could possibly support all that weight... let me just illustrate by analogy. In that same engineering orientation class I mentioned earlier, one of the teamwork building projects they gave us to do one day was the following: Using only plastic drinking straws and masking tape, design and build a structure capable of supporting a telephone book at least six inches off the ground. We were given a 30 minute time limit, and the success of the design was to be judged not only on whether or not it carried the load, but also on economy of material use - i.e., the design that could carry the load and used the least amount of straws and tape would win. The group I was in came up with what turned out to be the design that used the least materials of all - straws and tape all together weighed about 2.5 ounces. And it not only supported the phone book... I took it home and, to my surprise, found it could support Webster's Unabridged Dictionary. Over 10 pounds supported safely by a 2.5 ounce structure made of plastic drinking straws... sounds impossible, no?

Patrick Toman
Sunday, October 28, 2001 11:31:54 AM
IP: ac8a69f7.ipt.aol.com

Clarification:

"But then again, there's the necessity due to announcements..." was in reference to TGS CR Info Admin pic.
Lady Mystic
Sunday, October 28, 2001 07:45:02 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

*** TGS CR INFO RELATED ***

TGS STAFF (AND ANYONE INTERESTED):

Okay, FS and I narrowed down the list of possible TGS staff CR images. Please tell us which pics you think will be appropriate to use for the CR.

TGS CR Admin (of course)
TGS CR Info Admin
TGS Staff Member
TGS Episode Premiere

The first is definitely a keeper. The last can be useful when new eps are aired and notice is posted in the forum. The staff pic is definitely useful. And the CR Info pic might be useful given how often I post update announcements. However, I'm somewhat wary of having a CR Info pic since we already have an admin pic and adding another specialized CR staff pic might be pushing it, especially since the bulk of the staff, with all their specialized departments, share only one pic. (Thus arises the question of pics for each department. However, there really isn't a necessity for this, is there?) But then again, there's the necessity due to announcements...

What's your opinion?

EVERYONE:

In other news: I am finishing up on preparation of images that meet some CR pic requests. The CR Archive and a few other pages (including pages OUTSIDE the CR directory of the TGS website) will be updated soon. Once I get previously unfinished work done (including activating the member profile submission form), I will begin preparing more TGS illustrations for new CR images.

Since I will be uploading pages within the next couple of days I need to make ABSOLUTELY sure that the eligibility rules and restrictions are acceptable and aren't too strict (or too lax). Rather than direct you to a link that some of you may not want to take the time to visit (or sift through to read) I am posting the questionable data here. Please tell me what you think is acceptable, what needs to be changed and why, and what might be too strict or lax. Post all feedback to "Lady Mystic" or "LM" or email me at lady-mystic@usa.net. Thanks in advance. :)

MEMBER ELIGIBILITY:

Current posters and all TGS Staffers are eligible for this service as long as they meet the requirements. People who rarely post or are no longer around but could have once qualified for this service may create a profile.

Posts 1 or more per week = Minimum Attendance of 12 weeks (3 months)
Posts less than 1 per week but more than 1 per 3 weeks = Minimum Attendance of 16 weeks (4 months)
Posts less than 1 per 3 weeks but more than 1 per 6 weeks = Minimum Attendance of 26 weeks (6 months
Posts less than 1 per 6 weeks but more than 1 per 12 weeks = Minimum Attendance of 52 weeks (12 months)
Posts less than 1 per 12 weeks but more than 1 per 26 weeks = Minimum Attendance of 102 weeks (24 months)
Posts less than 1 per 26 weeks = Not eligible.

[ Attendance: the presence in the forum through postings. 1 week equals 7 days and 1 month equals about 30 days. Time frames do not follow the forum wipes. ]

MEMBER ELIGIBILITY RESTRICTIONS:

For a post to be counted, it *must* include replies to other people or comments added to a discussion or starting a new discussion. Posts consisting *solely* of the following material will be ignored.

- Questions asking when the next TGS series will begin, what day an episode from a particular TGS series is aired, or when an episode will be posted.
- Requests for people to contact a particular person, visit a website, read written work, view artwork, or get Gargoyles back on the air (ie: write to Disney, sign a petition, etc).
- Posts similar to journals and diaries.
- Announcements of site updates or new written or art works.
- Notifications of a person's existence.
- Top Ten spots and the like.
- Spoilers of shows, fanfic, series, movies, music, books, etc.
- Survey/Poll questions and answers (certain situations don't apply).

*** END TGS CR INFO RELATED***
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic(at)usa.net]
Head Admin of TGS CR Info
Sunday, October 28, 2001 07:38:30 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

<>TGS CR INFO<>

TGS Staff,
The question was raised about adding a new pic for just the TGS Staff to post with in here. (As opposed to all staff members posting TGS related stuff with the Admin pic.)

How specialized do you want them? Just one for the general staff, or one for each "department?"

LM and I were talking and we were wondering if there should be a pic for CR Info Updates or not. What do you guys think?

Also, while I am at it... do you have any pics that you would like added to the CR? I mean, if new pics are going to be added, why not add more for general use too?

Thankx.

<>END TGS CR INFO<>
Fire Storm
Sunday, October 28, 2001 06:02:57 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Terrky K: 
Well, in the mean time, try the Gargoyles Fan Website fanfic section. My link is the most recent submissions.
The TGS staff is currently working on new stories and won't publish them until they are ready. Making ONE story is a long process when you do it right. Making a few DOZEN stories... well, do the math!

Hopefully, these stories will keep you satisfied until TGS releases some new stories.

If you want a reccomendations for good authors, check these ones out:
Christine Morgan
Merlin Missy
Nancy Brown
Spike
Duncan
...
Actually, most of the writers for TGS have written stories of their own and are listed in the Archive.
Of particular note, Aaron Ziegler wrote the story "I'm Sorry" that helped him become part of the TGS staff (He is the writer of the Timedancer story "Requiem.")

Heck, some of the writers, both from TGS (Past and present) and not from TGS write fic based on TGS. Check it out!

http://fanfic.gargoyles-fans.org/past30.php
Fire Storm
Sunday, October 28, 2001 05:50:28 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

HEY ALL, i am just naturally in a bad mood. only one oxymoron can explain why: MICROSOFT WORKS!!! my computer is being such a crap tonight! or maybe yahoo is just screwed up. but i can't get any of my clubs to work right! URGH!! AND YES, i'm still awake, and wasteing space here. and ranting about my computer.... blahlala! Whatever happened to my good mood!!! oh, the coffee prolly wore off! DANGIT!! i need more CAPPUCCINO!!! AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE YELLING JAVA JIVE!!!! gaaah. i don't wanna make anyones day worse. but this is where i come to relax and be with people who have some same interests as i do. i also came here to READ. i dun wanna sound pushy and impatiant, but conidering my mood, i really don't care, and DANGIT, when are thier gonna be any new eps in here!!! unless someone already posted it a while back and i just didn't see it.

and another thing, i think i may get fired from my job!!! i know fer a faact i wasn't on the schedual, but today (while i was busy living my life out side of some small town pizza place) they called my house saying i was suppost work today! i'm almost sure i wasn't schedualed!! BLAAAAH. i worked EVERYDAY this week, and i'm still a minor! i've got school! i worked till close 3 days in a row!! but oh well, if they fire me, i'll just re-apply. again and again and again till they hire me. or jsut get some kinda restraining order.

well, i've got nothing else to do, seeing as there is no one on my buddy list and well, nothing new to read here, so imma just gonna type stuff till my happy mood comes back

*you are now entering Terrky's complaint department*

i was playing my guitar the other day, and my string broke!!! i had an extra one. but it still pissed me off.

i made me a screen name on AIM that was Java Jive 2ooo, my closest on-line friend said it was gay, and blocked me

i can't get any pics to upload in my yahoo clubs

Chicago the band never updates thier website

Styx isn't going on tour till next may

Yoko Ono broke up the beatles

REO Speedwagon hasn't had a decent album in like ten years

i keep loosing all my guitar pics!

-.- my cat just threw up on the floor *goes to clean it up*

I'M OUT OF COFFEE!

it's daylight saveings tonight... that means the days get hella lot shorter

one time i dropped my favorite chicago album in a bowl of oat meal

i think everyone must think imma ass now

*you have just left Terrky's complaint department*

ok, imma inna better mood now... i think... yep, i am!

and ya know what? JAVA JIVE!!! YES JAVA JIVE!

on the plus side of my day, i spent most of my time today with my girlfriend. AND WE WENT TO JAVA JIVE!!! i like to be with her. she likes me even though imma total nutcase. she even writes about me on her webite ^^ happy happy coffee!!!

well, thanx to all for being here er me to rant to. i only stay pissed fer a short time... or do i??... nah, i do, cause i'm not pissed anymore!! YAY!!

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Sunday, October 28, 2001 04:09:20 AM
IP: a010-0698.kscy.splitrock.net

Wrod to self: NEVER do a search for a file. Takes too frelling long.

Eyrie building: Here is a thought: Maybe the building is held together by magic or a variant of the

force field he used as a "structural intergity field" of sorts.
Either way, it probally DID get unstable or is getting unstable, if "Future Tense" is any true vision

of the future. I mean, maybe those massive supports are to keep the castle from tipping over.
Ah... who knows.

Lynati: <The King, a former conehead?>
Huh?

Imzadi: <Worse than white chocolate?>
Well, white chocolate is more vanilla than chocolate. And it's not too bad. Good in coffee.
<I'm starting to wonder if you and I aren't more alike than me and SJ.>
Na. You and SJ are PURE evil! I am just a little evil!
<But in general, no. We have no skills with women as a group.>
OR, if we do, it's very hard to find someone to prove it to.
<Although I'm sure we all have ex's that would argue otherwise>
Yeah, pretty much. But what good is that? There's not enough communication in that part.
<Actually for power armor its a little too heavy>
I know. But not TOO much. I mean, it would have 6" armor at the very least and be the heavy weapons

platform of the bunch.
Personally, I prefer the Light (250 lbs) and the Medium (500lbs). I also plan on an Ultra Light

(<100lbs, SOME flight capability, limited armor. Mainly a spying platform)
<Ooh ooh can I see!?>
When I can get 100tons of Titanium, yes! ;)
<I've been a student for a long time, and I'm rather good at it. I just hate it>
I know I am going for that soon. Pity on me, but I want it too.
<Have you seen the list of things an Evil Warlord should never do?>
Yes I have. Just remember them. Especially the 100+ ones.
<Nah, he'd say "they're great" with a perfect poker face>
True. :)
<"So I can lose it to Riker in poker, despite the fact that I'm perfect with probabilities and card

counting, I still can't beat the slick bastard.">
Ok, we are truly geeks. I completely understand what you are saying!
<They show two episodes at 8 and the same two at midnight every day over here. Its pretty cool>
Yeah! I just got to see Hunters Moon again. Helped me out a little in writing my stories (I thought

Chavez broke her ARM!)
<Hey, I can make $45 a "sample" over here in Berkeley...not bad for sitting around looking at dirty

magazines, huh?>
Thats exactly what the ad is for! One of my friends called it.
Damn... THAT was a cool group! We would get together once a week at a resturant that had these papers

(a local rag called the "Metro Times". He called that number and found that it was for a sperm

donation place. They offered up to $1000 a week for 'samples'
<That sounds really bad>
Hey, I could have said a rod!

The old King of Spain. Now he vacuums the turf at Skydome.
<And if you didn't know that the second Angela was introduced on the show, you ARE the weakest link

;-)>
I thought it was the army of Angela Clones! ;)
<Welcome to Microsoft>
True. That's why I use third party software to help.
<MP3 Alarm Clock X requires OS X>
Ah, I have had an alarm clock program that I used to run on my laptop back when it only had 16 MB on

it!
<"P'Tah">
Isn't there a "k" sound in there?
<but if we knew everything, we wouldn't bother reading the stories.>
Just because you know everything, it dosn't mean it isn't worth experiencing anyway.
Heck, if that was true, I would have stopped living a LONG time ago! ;)

Aaron: <Huh?!? Did I miss a meeting? When did we declare the rules obsolete?>
The older set of rules NOT in the CR info area.
<Can a necrophiliac and a cannibal live in the same apartment and not drive each other nuts?>
Well, it would make one cool TV show!
Shiunji: "Hey, Hannibal, have you seen my date?"
Hannibal: "Yes. She was delicious!"
::Insert laugh track::
<Who are they?>
Me, Todd Jensen, Spike, Mandi Ohlin, Lady Mystic, and Coyote
(I origionally didn't remember that Mandi Ohlin still posts in here)
<I’ve always wondered, if they had a bisexuality pride parade, would they have to march both ways?>
Graoner... I like it!
<I know you’re Head of TGS, but please don’t use the CR Admin pic in future, as it can be misleading.

(FS, any chance we could get another pic, something similar to the Admin pic, for TGS staff to use?)

Thank you>
LM is working on it as we speak. Actually getting Gorebash to post the code is another matter

entirely.

Greg Bishansky:
<Any teacher who's License plate reads: "MR BLADE", is cool (there's a funny story behind that)>
Ok... DISH!

SJ: <What is this I keep hearing about Eddie Izzard? I don't did the English sense of humor>
Have you ever seen his HBO special? His humor is a type of British humor most people can enjoy. Hell,

even LM likes it and she dosn't like Python like I do.
<And yes, I am specifically thinking of Monty Python when I write that>
It's an aquired taste.
<BTW, has anyone seen this new "Mutant X" series in syndication?>
I gave it 5 minutes. I couldn't stand any more.
<Joker>
WHY the frell don't they just EXECUTE him?
And No Mans Land was pretty cool, wasn't it?
<crippling Barbara Gordon (aka the original Batgirl) with a bullet through the spine>
Is Batman Beyond in the same universe as the comic Batman?

Gside: <It's a Keenspot comic, more specifically, it's at http://www.schlockmercenary.com/>
Sergent SHODAN is a disrespect to the name!
Ah... it's ok...

Most likely! Sounds like something we would have mentioned.

But... how come...
OH WAIT! ANIME! Logic dosn't count! ;)
<Just ask Ranma>
I still say he should have gotten together with Ukyo. And Ryoga get together with Akane.
NOTE: Just finish that %^*( story...
Ok... ALL those stories...
<Can I get a HALLELUJIA from the congregation>
HALLELUJIA, SEND ME CHECKS!
<I believe you only picked it up unofficially. It is not on the official playlist, and I know it was

among the songs I transferred with my eden account. I almost put up The Pandas Must Die, but it was on

the official list.>
Hey, what can I say? I check out both accounts frequently!
<You referring to logo? I'm talking about Love Hina>
Sorry, I was referring to Black and White the game.
<Data is Satan? But I like him>
Data or Satan?
<And now I work at the Pizza Pizza. One. Two. Three. Four.>
I think we both listen to that song WAY too much! ;)
<But Mousse never gets a break until the second movie>
True.
<Nope, brass monkey>
He's really funky.
Fire Storm
Sunday, October 28, 2001 03:32:34 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Wow...

I went for my daily (or is that nightly) three mile run, and when I got back, it was earlier than when I left...

Daylight savings time! Gotta love it!

*^_^*

SJ -- I hate Jon Edwards too, but have to disagree with the gay porn thing. Like well done films of any genre, even guys and guys stuff. Okay, it's not my favorite stuff, but even the worst porno is better than Jon Edwards.

Really really bad porn is actually fun, because you can gather in groups and make jokes about it. I had a group of friends when I was in college who would do this. It was long before Mystery Science Theatre came out too. The Star Trek spoofs were some of the best, because then you could use Trek trivia.

Well, time to be a good girl and brush my teeth and say my prayers and tuck in for the night. *^_~*

catch you all later
Mooncat >^,,^<

"Yes, I am an emissary of evil, but my duties are mainly ceremonial."

Mooncat
Sunday, October 28, 2001 03:10:33 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Aaron> <<>> Actually, I found most of the action/mech fighting in Gundam Wing to be dull. I think this was done on purpose, save for the last few episodes, to emphasize the banality of war.

Carolynn Marie> <<<The policy officially covers the cost of a ghost attack, an encounter with a space alien, and consequences from becoming a werewolf or vampire.>>> Wouldn't this kind of a fraud be counter-productive for the frauders?

SJ> <<<If you read the above, and didn't see the film yet, well then…..guess I spared you a few dollars. Trust me, you should skip this one and save it for next weekend when The One opens.>>> ...you SUCK!

Dammit, SJ, I was looking *forward* to that flick! "The One"? Ugh. It looks like "Virtuosity" but with Jet Li and ripped-off Matrix effects!

Re: The Joker> <<<When he was stopped from doing so by Commissioner Gordon's wife, Sarah Essen, he blew her head off and calmly walked outside to brag about it to Gordon.>>> Okay... you're redeemed in light of this kick-ass information.

<<<First off, if you like Jon Edwards, than I'm sorry. Please don't read any further. Because you won't like what I have to say.>>> Personally, I'm not that offended by the guy. People willingly come to him, so I don't see him committing any grave travesties. And his show, while inherently shallow and pretentious, isn't as utterly disrespectful and patronizing as some other crap out there.

Miss Cleo pisses me off more. Especially with that commercal of hers where she turns peoples' lawsuits against her for cheating them out of their money (by putting them on hold for hours while charging) into a witch hunt against her and her "beliefs," which she is valiantly standing up to by continuuing to offer her corny Jamaican-accented Tarot readings, performed by certifed Cleo sound-alikes who probably get paid less an hour than what you choke up per minute.
Entity
Sunday, October 28, 2001 02:25:54 AM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

Fire Storm> <<Where can this be found?>>: It's a Keenspot comic, more specifically, it's at http://www.schlockmercenary.com/
<<Imagine him going through a metal detector at the airport>>: I thought we went over that a couple months back.
<<Thats funny too>>: It's part of the same joke.
<<Although how he holds them with his wings, I shall never know>>: I chalk it up to preparedness before the change.
<<OR kittens. Ph34r!>>: Just ask Ranma.
<<PREACH IT, BROTHER>>: Can I get a HALLELUJIA from the congregation.
<<::GASP!:: REPEAT! (From August 2001, none the less!) SCANDAL>>: I believe you only picked it up unofficially. It is not on the official playlist, and I know it was among the songs I transferred with my eden account. I almost put up The Pandas Must Die, but it was on the official list.
<<Do you have a list of the cursor movements to create the spells?>>: You referring to logo? I'm talking about Love Hina. I've been splitting around 200 megs a day between that and Trigun.
<<It was the logical thing to do. I bet on you, and I take all the money>>: Data is Satan? But I like him.
<<Stronger! Faster! THE KING. OF. *SPAIN>>: And now I work at the Pizza Pizza. One. Two. Three. Four.
<>: But Mousse never gets a break until the second movie.
Imzadi> << If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...its either a duck...or a retard>>: Hey, watch it.
<<my next semester schedule...all morning classes and afternoon labs>>: Ow. And I thought mine was bad with another MTh 8:10.
<<Papers are like labs, but without all the pictures and charts>>: But they have numbers, right? Lots of numbers?
<<Know where I can get some?>>: But of course. By they way, that was a quote from the song Smut by Tom Lerher.
<<See, I can't sing for beans>>: Nor can I.
<<We gotta get you fixed up>>: So true. I think I might start doing better when I get an income and stop being so extremely cheap.
<>: Essentially the same here, but I try for weekly, leaving a couple days buffer in case I forget. That, and they're jockeys.
<<That's not a competition. Trust me>>: If you insist, but there seems to be a strong correlation between points and competition.
<>: As do we all.
<<The classic version, though, only requires about 2 megs>>: Still, another problem with that is that no one has a mac here.
<<How do you make whatnot?>>: Very carefully.
<<Linear Systems?>>: And Signals. Transforms up the wazoo.
<<The only bouncing breasts you ever see, huh?>>: Yup. But they also tend to be more death from above, and have better kicks.
<<Who?>>: Ex poster. Was on the young side.
<<Over shaving?>>: Nope. That was a mention of a reaction to an adult fic.
<>: According to Jim Kirk, he is.

Aaron> <<one of the webcomics I read because of you>>: Ah. I thought the circle might have gone around Ian J. and Ms. Lostimolo more personally. That, and I didn't know you read it because of me.
<<And now for the inevitable “second coming” joke>>: Actually, the next cover was a bunch of womens' breasts (like there were on the breast cancer issue of the Caelian) plus the male editors' breasts.
<<Something about having lots of kids. Or maybe they’re just soft and comfy>>: I vote both.
<<maybe I’ll just work on failing the psyche evaluation instead>>: And make sure to dump garbage without a permit.
<<Wang>>: I haven't said that in a good long time.
<<Can a necrophiliac and a cannibal live in the same apartment and not drive each other nuts?>>: Only if the cannibal only eats of the gender not preferred by the necrophilliac.
<<Don't ya mean Iron Monkey?>>: Nope, brass monkey.

Imzadi> <<technically, it is the ABSENCE of color>>: Watch out, a lot of people use the pigment system to define their colors.

Greg> <>: Not quite, I asked for one of the seven, not of the nine.

Terrky> <<does anyone like chicago the band>>: Horn work? I'm all over that.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, October 28, 2001 01:50:44 AM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

JAVA JIVE!!! i think imma make that a screenname on yahoo. YAY *skips off to do that* as you can see, i'm still hyper! JAVAAAAAAAAAAA JIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!! *sings it* LALALALA, anyway, imma go now

-={Terrky}=-
Terrky K
Sunday, October 28, 2001 01:46:30 AM
IP: a010-0113.kscy.splitrock.net

SJ> Nice info on the Joker. I love the Batman animated series, but I never really read the comic. Sounds like a real bastard in it ;). Out of curiosity, what's Ras al' Ghul (my other favorite Bat-villain) like in the comics?
Greg Bishansky
Sunday, October 28, 2001 01:40:34 AM
IP: dialin-1188-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

MOONCAT< Yeah, but Xanatos didn't know he needed the gargoyles to fulfill his past until "Vows", when he and Fox marry. He says that he received the envelope containing instructions from himself "just last week". Good consideration, though.
Carolynn Marie
Sunday, October 28, 2001 01:40:25 AM
IP: pc169-75.drew.edu

Hello i was wondering who do i talk to about creating a character so i may join a Gargoyle mush? and if there is indeed a mush available how do i hook up to it?
Azrial - [bloodraven.wolf@bigfoot.com]
winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Sunday, October 28, 2001 01:39:24 AM
IP: px1nr.wp.shawcable.net

I missed the top ten? Rats. *^_^* Oh well, gotta go run.

Someone mentioned how much a leap of faith Xanatos funding the Eyrie building was. But didn't he know he had to do this and bring the Gargoyles to life, because one had half the Phoenix Gate. And Xanatos would need that to go back in time to start the course of events that would lead to his current fortune? So it wasn't a leap of faith, but fulfilling his destiny. Sort of.

He knew the Gargoyle would be his ticket to the past. So he'd need to do whatever it took to the Gargoyles active. He knew magic existed, because of Puck and Demona. So was the expense and risk Nerve, or Necessity?

Just a random thought...

Going running!
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Sunday, October 28, 2001 01:16:36 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Carolynn Marie> I've have seen both Serial Experiments Lain and Grave of the Fireflies and yeah, they are good ones. Bubblegum Crisis(original and 2040) are also in among my favorites as well as about any Miyazaki film. especially Laputa, Mononoke Hime and the Lupin III films. Ranma 1/2 is another major favorite of mine.
Gavin
Sunday, October 28, 2001 01:13:38 AM
IP: dh171.scarlett.mtsu.edu

Coming to you 100% Anthrax free! Unfortunately, I can't say the same for the rest of the country. Welcome to Washington D.C., where it seems we should just go ahead and sprinkle anthrax on our cornflakes, because we got it everywhere else.

This just in: Yankees LOSE (thank God) and OJ Simpson is un-f***ing convictable.

Now comes the rant. Let's get rid of it early.

********

John Edward Won't Focus On 9/11

Crossing Over With John Edward - the show where psychic medium John Edward claims to relay messages from lost loved ones to their living relatives - will not be running episodes focused on the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center. Various newspapers and Internet sites had reported that Studios USA, which produces the series, was mulling over the concept of airing one or more specials featuring family members who had lost relatives during the Sept. 11 tragedy.

The reports sparked a minor controversy that prompted Studios USA's president of domestic television, Steve Rosenberg, to tell the Wall Street Journal, "We are not making the shows."Rosenberg had earlier told the Broadcasting & Cable Web site that "it seemed wrong" not to do the show after many families who had lost relatives on Sept. 11 had contacted Edward seeking private sessions.

Crossing Over airs both on the SCI FI Channel and in various syndicated TV markets. On Oct. 26 SCI FI released a statement that said: "Many people believe in life after death. If you watch Crossing Over, every show is about people who have died - and aiding those who are grieving. In this instance, the show has been inundated with calls and pleas for readings from grieving families of the World Trade Center victims looking for comfort and closure. Many of these readings have been done privately and will continue to be done privately. However, these readings will not air as part of the Crossing Over With John Edward television show."

***********

I was filled with rage when I read this.

First off, if you like Jon Edwards, than I'm sorry. Please don't read any further. Because you won't like what I have to say.

This *CENSORED* idiot is nothing but a fraud, a con artist, and a jackal preying upon the weak of society. He's a waste of human skin. This fake goes to vulnerable people, people who may not be the brightest but they are desperately seeking hope and peace because of their loved ones, and he feeds them a line of BS. He gives them vague clues and hints, and they themselves interpret this to mean that this schmuck can some how talk to the dead. And he usually finds a way to make them cry, and he tapes it all for the goddamn waste-of-a-time-slot show he has, cause he knows people just like the dopes he's conning will eat it all up. His shows disgusts me. You couldn't pay me enough to watch it. The only thing I can think of that would be more offensive to watch would be gay pornography, and I'm not talking the good (that is, girl-on-girl) kind. He's a fraud, a cheat, and scum. Normally, I would just dismiss him as some idiot who goes around pretending to be something that he isn't in order to make a buck (in this case, pretending to be a medium). BUT he's done the unthinkable: he taped a bunch of shows involving the surviving families of the WTC attack. This is disgusting. This isn't offering these people hope and closure - it's milking them out of a sob story to jack up his ratings. He's profiting on the death of those killed on Sept. 11th just as much as the assholes who were selling the rubble on Ebay. He's scum. Worse than that - he's no better than a graverobber. He might as well go to the cemetery where they're burying the dead of the WTC and dig up the graves in hopes of stealing valuables off the corpses, because it's no different in my book. I only hope that when this idiot dies, I can talk to his ghost, and tell it f*** off.

Oh wait, I forget that there was a question about the language of the CR, recently. I like to think of this CR being in terms of Carlin's infamous 7 words. In here, we can say something like "bitch", but not "c***". We call call someone a dick, but not a "c*******er". I'm pretty sure that f*** is still unacceptable, regrettably, as is s***, but who knows? Our language is evolving. I look forward to the days when we realize the fact that we play too much emphasis on certain "dirty" words.
But then, if we did do that, than it could be like that South Park episode, where the dirty words lose their power. And how fun would that be? Not very much, I'll tell you!

BonnyGarg: <<PLEASE STOP USING FOUL LANGUAGE!!!>> Who are you? Kai-ohhhhh wait. I HAVE learned something this week, rather painfully.
<> Yes, mom. BTW, you just know you're in trouble when someone utters the phrase, "I know for a fact". <<you know who you are!>> Yes, I do. <<If you really feel the urge to curse in a chat format, be creative and say something like "Blast!" or "Crimeny!" or "Razzin' Frazzin' no good rabbit!".>> How about "syphilitic mule-drinker"? <<Even substitution of vowels with * is no good...>> Oh, well ruin ALL of my fun why don't you. <<the point of having a "NO FOUL LANGUAGE" rule is to eliminate exposure of the underaged to innapropriate things like cussing and the nastier details of procreation. Which, by the way, is something else that I think should be mentioned FAR less (if not taken out completely)!!!>> Honey, kids these days have MTV. After watching the Britney Spears "Oops, I Did It Again" video countless times, I know everything that her gynecologist knows. <<you should all be ashamed>> You don't even know my personal life in regards to children. The angry phone calls, the threatening letters, the restraining orders from the Catholic school girls….<<Duh, all the adults DIED, so there was no-one around to teach them what survived little things like how to read and wash their hair.>> Duh??!! You insulted me in your criticism of my post! So….that's what that feels like…..

Station 8: <<Those people over at S8 hate us.>> Do they now? Well, we're the demon spawn to them. Because this is a TGS comment room, and we only marginally talk about TGS. That's blasphemy to them. Plus they can't stand the fact that we don't post 184 page long treatises upon Arthurian legends and / or the Culture and Biology of Gargoyles. Note to S8: there IS a divide between "fun, socially adept geeks" and "very disturbing geeks." Plus Aris and Galvatron are there. Reason enough for me to not post there. That's like juggling torches around a gas station.
BTW, just for the record: I am not Acheron, but I kind of like his style.
BTW, BTW, does anyone else notice that Aris has adopted more of an arguing style similar to mine? Am I a pioneer or something? Or maybe after all of this time, JackaL and I have made an impression upon the boy. Note to Aris: Get thee an exorcism. Before it's too late.
<<They also say that they see a lot of hate here.>> Hey! That is…..wow, remarkably accurate. But I think Acheron / Aris / Galvatron are trying to up the ante over in S8.

Aaron: Not to get into things, but I can't really express how much gratitude I have had for both you and Robby this past week. You're two of the best in my book. Which, hey, might not count for much, but you get the sentiment. ;)
<<Reanimator, right?>> Exactly! Although I really goofed myself on the reference I gave. I said "T'Paul and a reanimated hand", when it should have been a reanimated severed head. Anyone who's seen Reanimator knows that scene very well ;)
<<And then there's the Joker from the comics, about whom I know nothing.>> Joker is beyond both the movie and cartoon Joker in sheer villainy and homicidal madness. He kills without discrimination. Some of his more interesting exploits over the past few years include killing the second Robin (Jason Todd), crippling Barbara Gordon (aka the original Batgirl) with a bullet through the spine, and in the end of the recent massive "No Man's Land" storyline, he almost blew up a nursery full of infants. When he was stopped from doing so by Commissioner Gordon's wife, Sarah Essen, he blew her head off and calmly walked outside to brag about it to Gordon. He's a bad mofo. For two great takes on the Joker, get "The Killing Joke" (which does the unthinkable - makes the Joker a sympathetic character) and "Arkham Asylum" (written by current fan favorite Grant Morrison, with fantastic art by Dave McKean. It's a great look at the nature of madness and sanity, in relation to Batman and his foes, and has a truly demonic Joker. Great Joker essay at the back as well.) <<No, SJ is SJ. Pissy is Pissy. Similar, but from opposite
ends of the country. ;)>> What if I WAS Pissy? That might be enough to melt down the fabric of all reality. <<Can a necrophiliac and a cannibal live in the same apartment and not drive each other nuts?>> Leave my roommate and I out of this (half the fun is decided which is which!). <<Remember folks, the greatest danger facing America today is the repackaging of Satanism through Harry Potter.>> Those pesky devil-worshippers. Always with the recruitment of the young people. At least the orgies aren't half bad. But the human sacrifice ritual is too damn long. <> Probably the same ones who said that gays and the ACLU were the cause of the Sept. 11th attack. <<NOOOOOOO!>> <INCREDIBLY inside joke for NYC radio listeners> NOOOO!!! I say the things! </inside joke> You can ask Mara about that one, she might get it. ;) <<That is evil! Speeding is one of the great freedoms of being an American, and the cops already have too many advantages.>> Dude, they're like on every f-ing corner around where I live. It's disgraceful. <> I'd like to borrow that when you're done with it…

SOROW: <> He invited you? Hmm. Maybe the rumors aren't true.
This is so why I need to become a movie star. That's about the only way the SOROWs of the world will fawn over just shaking my hand. Unless it's clutching money or narcotics, that is.
And you'll always be SOROW to me. I like the name. It's kind of exotic.

Taleweaver: Taaaaaaaleweaver….I believe you can get me through the….waittaminute….
<< Enters wears a white mask. "Just walk away. Sevarius Jr. Just walk away.">> Brain fart. I don't get that. <> Please do. Outside of Aaron with the Reanimator guess, no one seems to want to play.

Terrky: << JAVA JIVE!>> And the Java Jive KING! Traveler, he's stealing your gimmick!
As for the horoscopes....Chris Rock has given the best of all time. "You gonna die."

Tonight's CR post will also be chocked full of Entertainment News. Because I haven't done it in quite some time, and I needed something of a lighter tone after this week.

So, cue that Entertainment Tonight music! Da-da-da-da-dum-dum…..

PROOF that any one can make a movie: Steve Irwin is set to start in "Collision Course", a live-action movie based upon his alter ego, the Crocodile Hunter. Yes, it's a real movie, with a storyline and everything. There's also an *animated* series in the works. Look, I like Steve as much as the next cable TV junkie, but this is a little ridiculous. I mean, what's next, an Iron Chef movie?
Oh wait. You hire Jackie Chan to play Chen Kenichi, and I'm THERE.

In romantic news, Tim Burton has split with long-time piece of ass girlfriend Lisa Marie to shack up with piece of ass Helena Bonham Carter. What relevancy does this have to anything? It doesn't. I'm just stupefied that Tim freakin' Burton is able to get such hot women. Guy must know voodoo or something. Or have REALLY good crystal meth.

Justice League News: The only animated show this season that I'm actually looking forward too. Well, we've gotten some word on the villains for the show.
These characters are confirmed for the show: Mark Hamill (regrettably, has been) will return as the Joker (Wilek, take note), and will also supply the voice of Solomon Grundy. Clancy Brown (B-Movie star / character actor) will return as Lex Luthor. Olivia D'Abo (has been / never was) will portray Star Sapphire, Sherly Lee Ralph (has been) will play Cheetah, Eric Roberts (Julia's evil brother!) will play Mongul, Powers Boothe (character actor) will portray Gorilla Grodd, and Robert Englund (living on one good movie role) will play Felix Faust. And Tom Sizemore (great actor, when he's not using) will play Metamorpho, that funky elemental guy.
Just as long as there are no wonder twins, I shall remain happy. I see any Wonder Twins, I'm gonna poke my own eyes out.

In more comic book related news, Neil Gaiman fanatics take note: It looks as if in the near future, i.e. next year, he will write a 6 issue miniseries for Marvel Comics….and it looks to be about MiracleMan. Which, if you know anything about that franchise, is enough to make us comic geeks salivate like a Pavlovian canine. It's meant to clarify the MiracleMan rights, at any rate, I think that the character will be the focus of the series.

From the We Don't Care Anymore department, there may be a 4th Crow movie. With a woman as the Crow. Note to Hollywood: It died with Brandon, okay? Move on to the next crappy franchise.

BTW, has anyone seen this new "Mutant X" series in syndication? What the HELL is this thing? I have never seen such clichéd action sequences (they rip off the Matrix AND Jon Woo, *simultaneously* and STILL do it wrong) and bad acting and horrible writing. If it wasn't for Vicky Pratt, I'd never watch the show. Any thoughts on this from anyone?

***From Hell Mini Review***
Wow, what an interesting movie!

And I can't believe Johnny Depp dies in the end!
***End Mini Review***

If you read the above, and didn't see the film yet, well then…..guess I spared you a few dollars. Trust me, you should skip this one and save it for next weekend when The One opens.

What is this I keep hearing about Eddie Izzard? I don't did the English sense of humor. Eh, I don't quite think I've every heard a British comedian who was even remotely funny. And yes, I am specifically thinking of Monty Python when I write that.

I prefer good ol' North American comedians. Like NYC native Jim Norton, my new favorite comic. His daily wisdom helps me get through life without any problems whatsoever.

"You should get a bottle of shoe polish, wear a Lakers' jersey, and go as an AIDS patient."
-- Jim Norton's suggestion on a Halloween costume.

Sevarius "Pinellas Park Pervert" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Sunday, October 28, 2001 01:10:59 AM
IP: 66-44-55-91.s345.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

hey all. i'm still here bored. i had a friend who wrote some horoscopes... i'll post em then, la ti da

THESE WERE NOT WRITTEN BY ME, AND WERE NOT MADE TO OFFENED ANYONE, but laughed my ass of when i read em

Cancer
YOU SUCK!!!

Pisces
You're a feminine LOSER!!!

Scorpio
YOU SUCK TOO!

Everyone Else
SO DO YOU!!!

there, thats all of em, yeah. well, at least i guess you could say that it gets right to the point... again, it is not my intension to insult anyone. lol

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Sunday, October 28, 2001 01:01:09 AM
IP: a010-0536.kscy.splitrock.net

Hey all. Meeting Kevin Spacey was really cool and hopefully I'll get into that movie. I have evil tests this week and a lot of applications due so I'm about to pull my hair out. At least I'll be going home next weekend.

I have a question to ask all of you, at least the people who've been in here as long as I have. I was reading today and I came across the word sorrow in the text and I started thinking: I'm not sorrowful as I was when I first started out in here three years ago. I feel like I've become a new person in the last few months and I think you guys have seen it to. I don't come in crying anymore. Question is: Do you think my handle is invalid and I should change it with the new me, or will I always be SOROW?
SOROW - [allison.abadie@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, October 28, 2001 01:53:05 AM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

o.o sorry all, i din realize that the name thingy took you to the website... i guess i am nuts... lmao.

sorry i keep posting over and over... i had a cappuccino today... so i'm still kinda hyper from that!!! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! -- that was the place i got it at... JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE! JAVA JIVE!

but anyway... have a nice night all... but by the way, when are the new eps comeing out??? according to the chalender, it is fall 2001. oh well.

*goes off to find more coffee* JAVA JIVE!!!!!

-={Terrky}=-
Terrky - [srs@postmark.net]
Sunday, October 28, 2001 12:44:13 AM
IP: a010-0536.kscy.splitrock.net

o.O it didn't put the website...

http://www.angelfire.com/weird/steffergees/index.html

and the club: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/terrykathsguitarclub

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Sunday, October 28, 2001 12:38:19 AM
IP: a010-0536.kscy.splitrock.net

hey all. imma bored again, lol. but anyway, does anyone like chicago the band??? just wondering. cause i'm bored. if you like chicago, you can join my yahoo club if ya want, HTTP://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/terrykathsguitarclub

well, anyway.... bleh. umm... hi. the URL thingy i put was my girlfiends website... it's not about gargoyles, but its still cool if you have nothing else to do.

well, anyway, see yall later!

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Sunday, October 28, 2001 12:36:04 AM
IP: a010-0536.kscy.splitrock.net

GAVIN< Glad to hear Vampire D was a success. I hate getting hyped for a flick and then let down ;( I recommend Lain; it's on DVD and be forewarned: the first few episodes seem very slow but it's so incredibly bizarre that it's worth it. It's like the weird love child of The Matrix, Stanley Kubrick, and The Truman Show (well, that doesn't do it justice, it's better than that ;D).

The BEST anime I've seen, however, would have to be "Grave of the Fireflies". After seeing that, I wanted to kill myself (okay, that doesn't sound good either). But while it's really sad, it's a fascinating story about two children orphaned and trying to survive after the bombing on Hiroshima. Bring tissues. Better than Titanic ;D
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Sunday, October 28, 2001 12:19:43 AM
IP: pc169-75.drew.edu

GREG< <<"I don't understand why prostitution is illegal. Selling is legal, fucking is legal. So, why isn't it legal to sell fucking? Why should it be illegal to sell something that's legal to give away? I can't follow the logic. Of all the things you can do to a person, giving them an orgasm is hardly the worst. In the army they give you a medal for killing people; in civilian life yo go to jail for giving them orgasms. Am I missing something?" >>

This is by far one of the funniest arguments in favor of prostitution I've ever heard. My friend Mark swears once he gets out of college, he's moving to Nevada :)

Well, folks, interesting night. At dinner, we were accosted by Aardvark Boy. No, he isn't some second cousin of the Jersey Devil, this takes some explaining ... there's one on every campus (at least a dozen on mine!) of just weird people. Not funny weird or cute weird or keg party weird; like, Jeffrey Dahmer weird. This particular kid got the name because when me and two of my friends were chatting outside the library, he yelled over to us, "Wow, where's an aarvark when you need one?"

Us: "Say what?"

AB: *pointing at ground, where there's dozens of ants teeming over one part of the sidewalk* "I mean, really, where's an aardvark when you need one? Geez... anyway, seeya guys around" *walks away*

Thus, the name. Anyway, he seriously stares at the girls as they go by and he psyches most people out with the muttering under the breath and the occasional comments of "Nice skirt. Can I touch it?" He especially likes girls with long hair (today I wore mine up to dinner). We're eating dinner when he just stands behind Michelle and I for FIVE FREAKIN MINUTES. As we're talking, he keeps trying to say something but never finishes his sentences. For five minutes. Meanwhile, our bodyguards, Sam of the Scottish Mafia (that's another interesting story there) and Adam are giving Aarvark Boy the hairy eyeball (this isn't the first time he's followed one of us around). Finally, AB yells loudly (after five minutes of just STANDING there, which is creepy): "Your hair is so long and silky. How do you get it like that?"

Michelle: "I wash it"

So AB is silent for like thirty seconds then finally, FINALLY wanders off, which means Sam of the Scottish Mafia and Adam can relax. Really, totally creepy *shudders*

Then I went to a showing at Montclair State of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, which in itself was hilarious.

EMCEE: *as we walk in the door* Have you been here before?
HEIDI: Um, no.
EMCEE *draws a big V on her forehead*: How about you, sweets?
ME: *thinking like I'm real smart* Oh, yeah, sure.
EMCEE: Oh, really? Then what's the purple onion?
Me: Um, well, it's like, I ... *sigh* No *resigned as he draws a big V on my forehead in lipstick*

Which wasn't really bad. All the "virgins", before the show, were called up on stage for a basic initiation. Mine involved eating a cherry off this girl's navel, which was no big deal except the cherry tasted like it'd been pickled in rum and Tylenol for five years and got caught in the throat on the way down. The show itself was hard to hear cuz of the screaming from the experienced part of the audience, so I'm thinking RHPC is something you gotta watch on your VCR with your buds instead of in an audience of 40 goths screaming vulgarities at the screen (man, and I thought I was a vulgar lil' thing! ;D Just goes to show, you learn something new every day). I'm just not a Rocky fanatic. Now if we ever had cult showings of Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail, THAT'D I'd be all over. Hell, I'd even dress up as Tim the Sorceror ... gotta love those horns! :D

POTTER FREAKS< Check out DarkHorizons.com. There are two critic reviews posted, and both say the movie is really awesome (one guy says it's the best movie he's ever seen that was an adaption of a book). This is relieving since I was worried; Potter in the hands of Chris "Bicentennial Man" Columbus? But looks like he didn't screw it up after all. Phew! ;D At last count, there's 22 of us having a mass exodus to the mainstreet theater on November 16th; a quarter of that amount includes the guy rugby team ;D

And the LOTR trailer looks fantastic. I wasn't really excited about it until I saw the trailer and realized it looks cool after all. I only read the Hobbit, in fifth grade.
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Sunday, October 28, 2001 12:14:10 AM
IP: pc169-75.drew.edu

JEN> Aerie is a word also? I didn't know that. Learn something new every day I guess. I still can't believe I didn't know that. And I aced English in school.

Today I went back to my High School for the first time since I graduated. Amazing how much smaller the place seems now. Anyway, my brother was in this play; "The Mad Woman of Chaillet"... which was a cute little piece of Socialist Propaganda (I know Green Baron would hate it). Anyway, my brother is an aspiring young thespien, and he played a Doorman in it. Did a pretty good job. It was well done for a High School play. My senior English teacher Dr. Vogel directed it, and did a fine job also. Which I expected, he's good at these plays, and a great teacher also. Liked him a lot. Any teacher who's License plate reads: "MR BLADE", is cool (there's a funny story behind that). But anyway, my brother did good, and I think he has a talent here. Hopefully he'll pursue this further, and if you see him waiting tables before he makes his big break, be sure to give him an extra nice tip ;)
Greg Bishansky
Sunday, October 28, 2001 12:08:51 AM
IP: dialin-1188-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

~~~~~Vampire Hunter D: Boodlust Spoiler~~~~~
I was lucky because it happen to be showing in one theater in the Nashville, TN area. It was at the Belcourt Theater and it was very much worth $6.75. and there were some people that came down to nashville from up in Kentucky just to see Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. The animation was so well done. it doesnt really have any villians in it even though the vampires and danpeals would've been considered the bad guys. its was a bit surprising that the human and the vampire were actually in love with each other. you could tell when the vampire actually got out of the carrage in daytime and was catching on fire just to save the girl from the vampire hunters. plus you learn a bit more about D's parents. The ending is sad and I'll admit that I did cry a little at the end. it was very well done and I'm glad I got to see it. especially since its only playing until next wednesday or thursday. I'd highly recomend that if its playing somewhere near you to go and see it.
~~~~~~End Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust Spoiler~~~~~

"To you and me this rice means nothing, but to my ancestors...don't mess with my family. Apologize to the rice." -- Chow Yun-Fat
Gavin
Saturday, October 27, 2001 11:37:15 PM
IP: dh171.scarlett.mtsu.edu

Greg - Eyrie/Aerie ... I think you need to look up Aerie in that dictionary as well... because they mean the exact same thing... just different variations in the spellings.
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Saturday, October 27, 2001 11:30:46 PM
IP: 1cust156.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

11th -- well I almost made top ten this time =)
silvadel
Saturday, October 27, 2001 11:15:29 PM
IP: cache-1.nyw.ny.webcache.rcn.net

Neuf!
Lynati
Saturday, October 27, 2001 10:48:17 PM
IP: kcx-ks19a-179.rasserver.net

2 hours have passed and the top 10 isn't complete?

I guess this goes down in record books.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, October 27, 2001 10:47:53 PM
IP: max1-15.cwy.cei.net

Eighth?

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
Saturday, October 27, 2001 10:44:19 PM
IP: dialup-64.154.224.93.dial1.sanantonio1.level3.net

We claim Top Ten *space* in the name of France this week!
Coyote and Ravyn
Saturday, October 27, 2001 10:39:54 PM
IP: 64.243.208.106.i-is.com

top ten

Anonymous
Saturday, October 27, 2001 10:28:18 PM
IP: 205.213.142.122

Top Ten!

The gal who played Glory in Buffy is now a cosmetic gal in the show, "Citizen Baines" hehe

GregB> *LMAO*
Jan
Saturday, October 27, 2001 09:53:09 PM
IP: modem17-78.mo-net.com

Top 10! v^_^
Wilek
Saturday, October 27, 2001 09:03:22 PM
IP: host130.the-cloak.com

TOP 10, #3
DPH
Saturday, October 27, 2001 09:00:09 PM
IP: max1-54.cwy.cei.net

Second!
Spacebabie
Saturday, October 27, 2001 08:48:15 PM
IP: proxy.lga.netsetter.com

First!!!

AARON> <<I know you’re Head of TGS, but please don’t use the CR Admin pic in future, as it can be misleading. (FS, any chance we could get another pic, something similar to the Admin pic, for TGS staff to use?) Thank you.>>
Will do.

<<<<I've got nine rings to give out, who wants to be one of my Ringwraiths?>> Yo>>
So that's you and Robby so far. I think someone else volunteered also. Which makes three. Any other volunteers?

JOSH> <<<<it was Owen that introduced Demona to Xanatos, I think it's safe to say that his trust in Owen was what helped this whole venture take place>>: So then why'd he remind Xanatos that the costs would be astronomical?>>
Hmm, then maybe Xanatos was doing it for all the reasons yo stated. I know I would. Damn, I'd love to have everything Xanatos has. The castle, the exo-suit, hot wife who knows six different forms of martial arts, brilliant assistant, the money heh, everything else as well.

<>: I disagree>>
Tempting, but you already saw it. So I don't feel too bad about not posting it here.

<<Those people over at S8 hate us.>>
Bah, to Hell with them. Not like they don't have problems of their own. Like this one guy who laughs at his own stupid jokes, I mean what the Hell is that? It gets on my nerves. They also say that they see a lot of hate here. In that case, I'd like everyone to know this... ::turns to room:: I hate you because I love you. ;)

<<Yeah, right. What would the prize be?>>
You get to die in a TGS story?

EYRIE/AERIE> It's Eyrie. Look up Eyrie in a dictionary and it makes sense.

As for whether placing a castle on a tower is possible, who cares. The thing looks so damn cool.

"I don't understand why prostitution is illegal. Selling is legal, fucking is legal. So, why isn't it legal to sell fucking? Why should it be illegal to sell something that's legal to give away? I can't follow the logic. Of all the things you can do to a person, giving them an orgasm is hardly the worst. In the army they give you a medal for killing people; in civilian life yo go to jail for giving them orgasms. Am I missing something?"
-George Carlin. "Napalm and Silly Putty"
Greg Bishansky
Saturday, October 27, 2001 08:44:58 PM
IP: dialin-1188-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net