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Hello everyone, just saying hello!

Fox> Welcome back! I am so glad to see you! Keep in touch I wanna hear everything that has happened to you in the last year.

Winterwolf> How was the move? Tell me all that has gone on since we last spoke. How r u and Dreamie?

That is it guys, thanks

Brooklyn
Saturday, November 10, 2001 09:49:08 PM
IP: 4.41.243.40

If you sound that phrase out, there is two ways it is correct: noone.com, one.com.

Imzadi - the reason Monday, Wednesday, Friday classes worked well for me is it gave me time to do housework and helped me keep my priorites straight.

I am concerned about getting a sinus infection if I don't blow my nose out often.

Ok, which cat is at my window? **IRL, DPH looks out the window and spots the cat.** I get the message: that cat wants some food.

Who needs Notepad? I use a program called EditPad, instead of NotePad. It actually gotten great reviews and some think that MicroShaft should use that program to replace Notepad.

**IRL, DPH hears cat again.** Hmm. I wonder how long it will pester me.

silvadel - Don't make me consider pulling out a song about the status of Timedancer.

Jan - I have been visiting a chiropractor since 9-11. Currently, I have to visit twice a week. When I first started, I was there every day of the week. I have been doing therapy for my back. Sometime next week, they will have to work a new schedule out for me. The lady said I was doing better at therapy, but I can't tell.

Hehe. I can't stand driving a car while my dad is a passenger. One reason: I'm always in a hurry and have taken time to work on a style of driving that uses brakes sparingly, but safely.

**IRL, DPH looks out his window and spots one cat gone, but another cat present.** I guess everyone knows what I'll be doing immediately upon completion of this post.

DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, November 10, 2001 09:37:11 PM
IP: 204.94.193.19

Hello everyone, just saying hello!

Fox> Welcome back! I am so glad to see you! Keep in touch I wanna hear everything that has happened to you in the last year.

Winterwolf> How was the move? Tell me all that has gone on since we last spoke. How r u and Dreamie?

That is it guys, thanks

Anonymous
Saturday, November 10, 2001 09:34:57 PM
IP: 4.41.243.40

* BUFFY SPOILERS *

They just aired the musical here in St. Louis, and I'll confess that I rather enjoyed it. The songs were good ones, and I got an especial kick out of the parts where they had a little bit of fun with it such as Anya critiquing the numbers (not to mention going on another anti-bunny bit; why is she so unfriendly towards bunnies, anyway?) or Giles' comment about "That explains the unseen orchestra".

I had suspected that Buffy would somewhere in the episode reveal that she'd been pulled out of Heaven, and so I wasn't at all disappointed by that part. I'm looking forward to seeing how her friends cope with that in future episodes. And Tara's response to learning about Willow's forgetfulness spell. And whether Xander will get the courage to actually marry Anya when the time comes, or whether he'll chicken out and leave her standing at the altar (as I said before, not a smart thing to do when your bride-to-be is an ex-vengeance demon who specifically focused her vengeance upon men who do that kind of thing).

So I don't see this as a "jump the shark" episode at all, myself. Though I'm aware that others here disagree with me on this.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, November 10, 2001 09:02:21 PM
IP: 168.191.109.61

*In*
Good "morning", everyone.
I'm goign to skip my long complaining run-opwn about loading the kiln yesterday and how I didn't get to bed until it had been 34 hours since I last slept, and just reply to Niamhgold while the info is still of use to her.

Niamhgold <Ooh, good luck with that ;)> Thanks. <So, you're into the sculpting scene, eh?> Yuppers. <Any tips on what I should model characters out of, and what I should use for the armatures?>
Aah...depends on what your going for. And what size said models are. If you are going small-scale, wood or metal work fine for armatures. Larger scale, chicken wire rules all. ;) But for materials...I’m guessing that your not going to be firing this, as you asked for material suggestions, not clay-body suggestions. I’d say go for a self-drying clay; there are many types out there. And if you do a well-constructed armature, then you’ll only need enough to layer over the outside, and lower your cost. Ooo, there is this ONE type of self-drying that I love; it’s great to work with, and you can get it in either white or terracotta. It’s sold in foil packages, the medium sized ones are about 4”x6”x1 inch deep. They are kinda on the expensive side, but if you keep it covered well it doesn’t dry out and you can re-use it if you don’t like your earlier results. The name is a derivative or corruption of the word “plasti-”, or at the very least starts with a “P”. Most art supply stores carry it; usually it and the other clays are all together, and near the plaster and the paper-mache, too. If you are doing something VERY large scale, just use paper-mache, or a paper-mache and plaster mix, it’ll speed up the drying time. (and p.m. takes days to dry.)

*to break-fast*
Lynati
Saturday, November 10, 2001 06:29:22 PM
IP: 205.184.255.247

Imzadi: 
I see. I decided to try Word now. Just because of a few (dozen) misspellings and forgetting to turn off word wrap.
<The entire simpletext program can be written in virtually one line of Cocoa. That's right. One line. I watched my roommate do it>
But how much does it ACTUALLY take?
<Do you know why we think clowns are so scary?>
Yes I do.
But if I tell you, I would have to kill you.
<Not in the prague episode>
That's a smaller one, not a full FORTRESS class one.
<Don't make me beat you>
If you strike me down you make me more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
<Damn it, I didn't realize how bad that sounded until after I posted it.>
It was pretty freaking bad.
<Generals?>
You know... those cannon fodder leaders that will tell your troops where to die.
<Um, I don't think Afghanistan will be there>
Good ole Lake America
<You are SO not an engineer>
But I am in training. I am not fully trained in the art of details.
<Oh, microsoft is SOOOO much better>
Oh, I never said Microsoft is better. But I am just trying to show that Apple is not perfect.
<Sure, as soon as you concede>
I will not concede until there is a recount of the recount.
<More importantly, I"M not like that>
Oh, but you will change. You will take up a life of willing celibacy and giving up all of your material possessions.
<Sex. Sex. Sex. You'd think we were deprived>
But then I know we are, so everything is ok.
<Or they did notice and didn't care>
IF they saw cameras, they would know that only the tri-Lambdas could do it, so they would care.
<Dude, come on! BILL GATES. There's a reason XP is such a jack on OS X>
Is not! X ripped off XP! Apple just dropped the P! ;)
<You're right. I'd much rather fight my computer to get online. If I have to burn in hell for this ease of use...so be it>
HEATHEN! Don't be tempted by the fruit!
<Yeah right! I don't know anyone who spoke like that at age 10>
"Hey Billy, want to hang out on the playground?"
"K3wl, d00d! 1 4m l1|< $0 d3r!"
<Brunette FEMALES>
Picky picky! Take what you can get! ;)
How about this: Brunette, 5'6" with big breasts and a movie star?
Sure, the movie was Fight Club, but hey, maybe you could grow to like him!

Warpmind: <How are you gentlemen!!>
It's you.

Christine: Everybody say it with me now, a-one, a-two, a-three ... "Braaaaaaaaiiiiiinnnnnns!">
Shame on you for perpetuating that horrible stereotype! ;)
Fire Storm
Saturday, November 10, 2001 06:03:09 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Siryn> thanks! mucho appreciato =
)
I think the website for the hotel is:
http://www.sixcontinentshotels.com/holiday-inn?_franchisee=WBGEA&jrunsessionid=1005346902501114964

which is probably the same as what you've posted. hehe

Personally, I've checked into the Amtrack option and found it to not be feasible... but that's ME and I don't know about anyone else.
Jan
Saturday, November 10, 2001 03:53:48 PM
IP: 12.110.237.63

ACk!

One more thing..the hotel itself doesn't have a main website..its featured on a lot of VA travel searches though..just so no one gets confused.. (because I know I have been already) here's one of the URLs to it.

http://www.sixcontinentshotels.com/holiday-inn?_franchisee=WBGEA

Okay, that's all out of me today.. (maybe?) Again, any questions, email is always open, and I try to get back to you within the same day (if not the next day) and Nooo question is too silly or dumb or UNIMPORTANT. <:)

Christine> PS. You're soo lucky!! I'm jealous, enjoy Harry Potter!!
Siryn --2002 Convention Chair - [siryn7@aol.com]
Saturday, November 10, 2001 03:46:54 PM
IP: 24.93.24.2

Jan> Hey, I'll SEE if the hotel has shuttles from Norfolk and Richmond airports for you..I can't promise anything..but I'll be happy to doublecheck. ^_^

Also, if anyone wants to take the train? The station is less than 3 minutes from the hotel. (about 2 miles I think?)

*points to info below* I thought I would post that since someone just asked me it over email..and I've already clogged up s8 answering questions already. ^_^;;

http://www.amtrak.com/

Nearest Amtrack station (3 Mins away)
Amtrack Transportation Center (Amtrack station Code: WBG)
468 N Boundry St.
Williamsburg ,Va

Phone (757) 229-8750

Spacebabie> Yes, Williamsburg VA is in the area of the original Powahaton Tribe's lands. (Colonial Williamsburg is within walking distance of the hotel about a mile). ^_^

If anyone has any questions about the gathering, feel free to email us at gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com or me personally at siryn7@aol.com and we'll try to answer whatever questions you have. (Or if you have comments/rants you would like us to know about, that's OK too)
Siryn --2002 Convention Chair - [siryn7@aol.com]
Saturday, November 10, 2001 03:43:26 PM
IP: 24.93.24.2

Josh > maybe so, but Bruce has got that enormous chin! ; )

Avalon Mists deadline > just a reminder, the winter issue of AvMists is coming up at the end of this month. Send in fics, pics, filks, crossovers, character spotlights, poems, articles, and so on by Nov. 28th. And don't miss the new Challenge -- "If They Mated."

Update > the zombie anthology The Book of All Flesh has been shipped to distributors. Includes my story, "Dawn of the Living-Impaired," in which social services meets the walking dead. Everybody say it with me now, a-one, a-two, a-three ... "Braaaaaaaaiiiiiinnnnnns!"

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, November 10, 2001 03:03:54 PM
IP: 64.24.214.27

Warpmind -- You can get that info at www.mensa.org... At any rate you may well already have taken a qualifying IQ test. I qualified by virtue of my SAT scores and my GRE scores... Note that when they dumbed down the SAT, mensa stopped accepting that test.

silvadel
Saturday, November 10, 2001 02:46:21 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Spacebabie> it looks as if I'll be flying into Norfolk too so maybe if we can get the scheduling to coordinate, I'll drive the rental and if others want to ride with me, we can all split the cost of the rental car or something like that :) Sometimes they offer deals and such so the car rental isn't all that expensive. We'll be able to find all of that out when it gets closer to the date. =)
Jan
Saturday, November 10, 2001 02:05:28 PM
IP: 12.110.237.63

I don’t have much to post but yesterday I received a flu shot, cause having the flu sucks.
I had some great chowder for lunch at Paneria. Now My dad and my brother are arguing as they are fixing the door.

Silvadel<<<Finally got my membership card from mensa>>>Congrats!

Patrick>>>I’m going to be asking money for the trip for Christmas, I am making this statement now. I WILL need a ride to the hotel from the airport, I’d rent a car, but I drive like Buffy. Also isn’t Virginia the home of the Pohowten tribe
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Saturday, November 10, 2001 01:51:30 PM
IP: 63.28.144.145

Re: G2002 > Norfolk is definitely the more "major" of the two airports in that part of Virginia. I'm betting most people flying from any long distance are going to end up routed to Norfolk if they want cheap and/or nonstop flights. If I was to fly from here, I could get a quick nonstop to Norfolk for at least a hundred less than a flight to Richmond / Newport News where I'd have to make a connection along the way.

My advice would be for fans looking to save on car rental and taxi fees to get together ahead of time and try to plan arrival times so several people can share a ride. Either that, or look around for people like me who'll be driving their own cars and see who'd be willing to come to the airport and give rides.

As for the hotel... I'm holding off booking pending resolution of a question I had. I actually found a lower rate than the convention discount rate listed on the Holiday Inn's online booking site for Sundays through Thursdays on that week, and I'm waiting to hear back if the con rate is discounted on those days, too.
Jannie > The biggest advantages of digital cable internet is that a cable modem is so much faster than a dialup connection, and you don't tie up your phone line while using the internet.
Patrick Toman
Saturday, November 10, 2001 12:47:53 PM
IP: 66.72.201.136

Mara> Just because I understand how they are feeling doesn't mean that I have anything against you. I didn't say that I agreed, I just said that I understood. There's a difference.
Whether I agree or not with what they are feeling is of little consequence to anyone - I have not commented anything negative in here about you being the new co-admin. I haven't passed any judgements on how you'll be as the admin because I haven't had any opportunities to see how you'll handle situations (until now). I haven't _ever_ said anything negative about you or to you in here. So even though I understand how they are feeling it apparently doesn't effect how I feel, right?
My understanding of how they feel was not intended as a slam against you. If I had wanted to make a slam, it would have been a lot more obvious ;)

Maybe if you had talked to Rayvn more you would understand what she's feeling and then you'd know that her decisions are not soley based on what happened between you and Coyote. Have you emailed her and tried to discuss this with her or have you jumped to false assumptions yourself?

geesh, now that I've explained my comment, would you kindly remove my butt from the wringer? ;p

DPH> I know what you mean about needing a place to sit down after standing for a while. *nodnodnod* When my back is hurting, I can't stand for very long and I can't sit for very long... I end up rotating between standing and sitting... very frustrating and painful. Have you been given any type of medication for your back? Since mine is a pinched nerve, the doctor gives me an anti-inflammatory plus I ice pack where the nerve begins. I can't stand or walk for long periods of time because of my leg too. =\ (It's the one that the veins were removed from for the heart bypass.) It's the incinsion that is right above my ankle that gives me the most problems. I've heard that it will not get any better, I just have to learn to live with it.

Greg> << blame Barbara Streisand>> ahhhhh ok!! In that case, carry on. *LOL*

Got called out on a dress-down last night.... this gal was filthy!! She was personable and all, but good gosh almighty.... We made her take a shower before she could go to her cell. While showering she said, "I haven't had a shower in over a month!" Then she was talking to herself and said, "well, look at my toes! they are funky and filthy"
O_o She was brought in and booked because she was shooting at some hunters near her property.
I gave 2 inmates haircuts yesterday in exchange for them washing my car. hehe
Another county had us "babysit" one of their inmates for a few hours yesterday... we did a shakedown before he entered the holding cell and they found a huge reefer in his sock. Security in other jails make me nervous. He's in jail for murder... he and his girlfriend took a woman out into the woods and beat her to death. What's even more scary is that to see this guy you wouldn't guess that he had done something like that. He was clean cut and decent looking as well as being polite and soft spoken.

I received a letter notifying me of the cable company installing digital cable and internet service to our area by December 3rd. Is this something that I might be interested in? I understand that it wouldn't require a phone line, but other than that... what are the advantages of having it over my current internet connection? Please help this computer-retarded soul (moi) in understanding the pro's and con's of digital cable internet.

Just so I won't feel left out... when are the new episodes coming out? *giggles* Just kidding! Please don't stone me! well... depends on your definition of stoning ;)

I'm glad to see the hotel information for the Gathering :) However, I checked on the difference between flying into Norfolk and to the Newport airport - $389... to the Norfolk airport - $212. But then I'm stuck with trying to figure out how to get to Williamsburg from the Norfolk airport and once again trying to figure out if it's still cheaper to rent a car for the weekend than to pay the higher flight cost. (as it was in LA) Whatever happen to the days of flying into a major airport and taking a shuttle to the con hotel? *chuckles*

ohwell... time to get busy around the house.

Jan
Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:45:21 AM
IP: 12.110.236.109

*Warpmind slides in, holding up a blue folder of some sort in a very Zelda-like fashion.*
Distorted Psyche to Gamma Faction, Distorted Psyche to Gamma Faction! The Eagle Has Landed, repeat The Eagle Has Landed!

Shadowrider: I still say that nationalism will remain an insanely oversized obstacle for the Euro. Oh, well... time will tell. Me, I'm not too impressed with the whole EU, anyway... and Norway is, per se, still not a member.

DPH: Naw, my plans do not necessarily include achieving perfect vision. I've kinda grown accustomed to wearing glasses. Though, I shall admit, getting some nanites to improve efficiency of my biological processes is definitely interesting, and if such a process were to correct my eyes at the same time, it'd be a plus. (Though, the way my eyes are now... by the time everyone else needs reading glasses, I can simply take my glasses off and smugly read at a comfortable distance...)

Gside: Four feet off isn't amazing. Nor does it qualify as Eagle Eye. ANYONE with normal vision is able to see the ground they stand on clearly, without everything becoming a blur. :p And I'd expect a smaller, thicker folder, rather than the long, slim one I got... Õõ

Fire Storm: How are you gentlemen!!

Silvadel: A MENSA card? Dangit, I have GOT to get to take that test someday... *Sigh* First things first, I guess, gotta find out *where* that test can be taken, first...

Josh: You didn't think of that? Hmmm... Maybe it has something to do with the average weather conditions here... We frequently get strong wind here, so we have to accomodate our technology to handle low-flying objects...

Well, I'm outta here. *Strolls out, humming the theme to "Ah! Megami-Sama!"*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, November 10, 2001 07:45:46 AM
IP: 193.217.239.198

Howdy ho.

I resolved to go to all of my classes starting today...and already failed. I skipped Stat lecture to finish up my mechanics homework, which I found out isn't due until 5PM anyway. Oh well. Probably wasn't important. Hasn't been yet.

I spent a lot of time tonight doing two things: watching star trek and chatting online. Very productive.

Nothing of even remote interest to report, so I'll get right on to the replies.

It doesn't look I'll really be able to schedule my classes for just TWTh, but I'm still trying.

The Wizard: <<seems like I'm on a rather poor posting streak>>: I couldn't tell. <<a fifteen minute private crit>>: They're gonna crit your privates? What kind of a sick school do you go to? <<60+ hours of preparation>>: In light of my last comment, I think I'll just not say anything to this one. <>: You don't have a fluids lab to write. <<Me?>>: Aren't WE egotistical!? <<does your middle name begin with an H?>>: Do we know for a fact that Jesus' did? <<That's not a flame war...that's a duck-and-cover>>: Um... <<Preach it>>: Don't make me come over there. <<You wouldn't be able to handle the charcoal>>: Actually I've already used similar materials for models, so I'm sure I can handle the fumes. I've got a great gas mask. <<now I know the Berkeley cycle! All I have to do is chart biorhythms>>: How would that help? <<West-Coast provoked teleportive attributes>>: Hell yeah. As long as it wasn't random. The West Coast is a big place. <<Good thing I'm not on the list for the harem>>: No one said you had to be a member of the religion to be a member of the harem. <<Boy, then, do I have a list of stupid guy friends>>: Couldn't have said it better myself. <<it's strong enough for back pain, wisdom tooth pain, and headaches unrelated to menstruation>>: Goddamn. <<Didn't she have the Grimorum at one point in the future?>>: Nope. Brooklyn timedances the grimorum from shortly after the magus enters Avalon straight to David Xanatos in 1975 or whatever year it is. Next idea? <<she only wishes you were wearing a certain pair of boxers>>: That pair is rapidly falling apart. I shall have to replace them. <<a riding crop doesn't whip, it just thwacks>>: Either way, painful. <<the thing would never have been produced in the first place if they weren't>>: So true. <<You'll be allright; it only hurst the first time>>: Not that I know, since I didn't go. Again. <<You're the man.>>: So I've heard.

Christine: <<Bruce Campbell>>: I'm sorry, but he wouldn't have cut it as The Tick. He's too...gruff.

Patrick: <<Cubicle Man one day you too shall be>>: Don't bet on it. I'd rather run a hot dog stand than work in a cubicle. <<You might have better luck by just starting out convincing twelve close friends of that story>>: I'm in! <<Who says you can't offend ALL of the people ALL of the time, after all?>>: No one. Its PLEASING them all that's a trick. <>: YES! One more convert! <<everyone can start booking their rooms now>>: Maybe when I've settled on who I'm roomming with.

Baldy: <<you have to just reverse the phase polarity of the interphase grid>>: !@#$ why didn't I think of that?

Shadowrider: <>: That's three. <<another integral for each component you consider>>: I don't consider integrals. I get my computer to do them for me.

Greg X: <<It wasn't the cartoon, but what is?>>: The cartoon. <<Finally something to watch on Thrsday nights>>: FAMILY GUY! <<if I can only get another black box and I'll be able to watch "South Park" again>>: You are missing out, my friend. You would have laughed your butt off at the episode on wednesday. <<You don't think Barbara Streisand is the scourge of humanity>>: Nah, that station is reserved for Bill Gates. <>: But they're so much trouble. Always trying to thwart your evil plans, etc. Much better to just execute your evil plans without interference. <>: You don't get to be an admin. <<I'll just kill you and take the harem. Nothing personal>>: No offense taken. Best of luck with that. Just because you are the messiah doesn't mean you get any authority/power. I mean, we crucified Jesus. <<Yeah sure, why not>>: Thanks! <<Blame Barbara Streisand>>: Blame Canada? Blame Moochie?

DPH: <<There is no one dot com>>: Actually, there is. one.com. <<how many ways is that true>>: It doesn't matter. As long as its false ONE way, its not true. <<if you lose that check, I am NOT sending you another one>>: Heh, thanks. Don't worry, I'll get it deposited. <>: That wouldn't work for me. I need to wake up at the same time every day. Otherwise it doesn't work. <<My sinus problems seem to be under control>>: Good to hear.

Janine Renard: <<my bigest problem was my roommate...what a slob!>>: can your slob cook? Mine can! <<this may sound biased but he is soo cute>>; Yes, yes it does sound biased ;-) <<NEVER date a cast member>>: Thanks, I know. Now. <<what is the name of the cast where you are>>: In LA its "Sins of the Flesh" and in Oakland its the original Berkeley cast, "Barely Legal".

Gside: <<Even though you get four day weekends all the time, your three days would still be jam packed>>: I'm willing to risk it. <<Why, thank you>>: Brunette FEMALES. <<Jersey is the most densely populated state>>: If California was a just a big suburb of Los Angeles I'd expect the same thing ;-) <<What happened to blaming Moochie>>: No one wrote a song yet.

Shinigami: Don't worry about them. In time, we'll all get over this bullsh*t. Of course, we'll all be married with kids by that time.

FS: <<doesn't understand why I use notepad>>: I use TextEdit, the OS X equivalent. Before that i used simpletext, the OS 9 equivalent. <>: Ah, but TextEdit has built in spell checker. In fact, here's a really cool factoid. The entire simpletext program can be written in virtually one line of Cocoa. That's right. One line. I watched my roommate do it. <>: Do you know why we think clowns are so scary? <<It crashed or almost crashed>>: Not in the prague episode. <>: Don't make me beat you. <<some things I don't quite need to know>>: Damn it, I didn't realize how bad that sounded until after I posted it. <<there will be no countries left for your military generals>>: Generals? <>: Um, I don't think Afghanistan will be there. <>: You are SO not an engineer. <<technicalities>>: The spell said "when the castle rises above the clouds". So I'm gonna assume it meant only once was required. It didn't say it had to stay there. I'm gonna assume that all some point ALL parts of the original wyvern were up there, and the dust/parts removed/whatever were elminated after the gargoyles woke up. <<keep any and all problems with Macs to yourself>>: Oh, microsoft is SOOOO much better. Are you aware they're starting an alliance to PREVENT the release of information concerning security bugs? <<LET ME HAVE THIS MOMENT, OK?>>: Sure, as soon as you concede that at least Apple can fix a bug in a few hours, while Microsoft representatives have been quote as saying "Its highly irresponsible for us to fix a critical bug in a few days". <<would like to subscribe to your newsletter>>: There's a newsletter!? YES! <>: More importantly, I"M not like that. <<Let's see what the three of us...have talked about lately>>: Sex. Sex. Sex. You'd think we were deprived. <<*I* am not ungendered!>>: Sure you're not. <>: Mmmm...cocoa. <<the women never noticed the big frigging cameras>>: Or they did notice and didn't care. <<who else do you know that shows us pretty colors and flash and promises us an easy way>>: Dude, come on! BILL GATES. There's a reason XP is such a jack on OS X. <<SATAN>>: You're right. I'd much rather fight my computer to get online. If I have to burn in hell for this ease of use...so be it. <<Grade level: 4.4>>: Yeah right! I don't know anyone who spoke like that at age 10.

Silvadel: <<Finally got my membership card from mensa>>: Awesome! Congrats.

Okay, time for the sleep thing. Got a lab report to write tomorrow.

I'd like to say that everything is okay between me and that f*cking little slut. -Eminem, about Christina Aguilera
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, November 10, 2001 03:31:59 AM
IP: 64.170.155.33

Any idea when we will be getting new episodes?

Finally got my membership card from mensa. Anyone else join groups post 9/11?

Buerocracies STINK... I have been on the bad end of several lately... <In the not gonna take it any more frame of mind>

I should have been in bed hours ago.

At least it is working now(crosses fingers) last time I tried to enter a comment it wouldnt take it.
silvadel
Saturday, November 10, 2001 12:57:24 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Echoes is kewl!
Listening to it right now!

LM just doesn't understand why I use notepad for writing posts.
She thinks I should use Word because my spelling sucks and I forget to turn off word wrap.
She will never understand! ;)

Yooper: <Flexibility isn't a problem. Length is. Most cranes couldn't pick straight up 1400 feet>
Yeah... I remember hearing about that...
That's why some deep caves and oil derricks have a ratcheting-type of mechanism to lift the elevator.

Imzadi: <She thinks they're scary. I don't know why>
I would like to know why.
Did she have a run in with the Easter Bunny or Bun-Bun?
<Be quiet and make your time>
For great justice take off every Zig!
<And THEN the oral sex?>
Hmm... We shall see...

In every episode we saw a Fortress-class vessel, it crashed or almost crashed. Not a good track record.

A little, yes. But concentrated liquid heat? THAT can cause SEVERE burns.
<and you'll be a millionaire. THEN will you start building my suit!?>
All things will be revealed. Hmm... OR:
I am not at my office right now. Ask me later.
I need a good Greg Weisman response for this...
<For some reason, I always think of oral sex when someone mention spanking>
And there are some things I don't quite need to know.
<Alright, fine. Two countries>
You know, at this rate, there will be no countries left for your military generals.
And I doubt anyone will want Afghanistan by that time.
<Well, I don't think it counts if you ADD to the castle. My question is what happens if you subtract from it>
Look, I don't care about the details!
And anyway, to add the doors you have to REMOVE parts of the castle bricks!
Also, as LM just pointed out to me, aren't we just working on technicalities? I mean, the castle didn't rise as a whole above the clouds. It rose piece by piece. Also, it didn't say anything about STAYING up there! The majority of the castle may be there, but other pieces may be missing or readjusted.
Me again: If the castle fell, would they still remain alive or would they revert back to stone?
Couldn't it be possible that a TOTALLY different building could be made to look exactly like Wyvern that would fit the spell? Probably not, but it's just a thought.
<Pretty soon this room is just gonna be you, me, and Gside>
My GOD, that's a scary thought!
<That was ONE installer for iTunes that was pulled 20 minutes later and replaced with a working on the next day>
'Twas only a jest!
And besides... you Mac'ers tend to keep any and all problems with Macs to yourself to prevent from scaring away any potential converts. LET ME HAVE THIS MOMENT, OK?

Greg "Jesus" Bishansky: <Someone say something offensive, and fast!>
I find your views interesting and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
<I'll just kill you and take the harem. Nothing personal>
Ok, that makes a little more sense. Someone wrote me that memo and it got translated a few times.
NOT kill the harem and keep Josh. Good. I didn't think you were like that. ;)
Mine is not to reason why... <--- NOTE: My favorite expression at work.

Gside: <Truly? But it looked to be in all roman characters>
For the benefit of our non-1337 speaking audience, I translated it back into standard English.
Unfortunately, some words don't have a direct translation. I mean, look at Zero Wing.

Let's see what the three of us (You, me, Imzadi) have talked about sexually lately:
This, sex bots, tentacles, tentacles and more tentacles, kink, spanking, oral sex...
Maybe we really don't need MORE kink...
WAIT! What am I saying! You can never have enough kink! ;)
<So what's the Y stand for? If it's yes, I thought you were ungendered>
*I* am not ungendered! Us in the upper hierarchy do have gender. The drones don't.
<Oh, and I think eternal might be more appropriate. Immortals can still have a time since which they existed.>
Huh?
Eternals have always been, are, and will always be, and Immortals had a beginning? Is that what you are trying to say?
Well then, I am Immortal. LM is eternal. And she had a beginning. Long story. No time to tell it. Plus, I have no cocoa.
<Revenge of the Nerds?>
The most unbelievable thing about that movie is that the women never noticed the big frigging cameras.

Niamhgold: <Well, it does have traces of back pain suppressant in it>
So it does! I didn't notice that...
<Nope, but flavored for her BF's>
Eat them up, YUM!
<Preach it!>
These 'Macs' try to tease us to the dark side with their flashy colors and ease of use.
But who else do you know that shows us pretty colors and flash and promises us an easy way?
SATAN!

Gunjack: Hey, is there a good way to figure out the correct amount of rifling for a barrel?

Warpmind: <Dude... I now hate you for that>
I know! It was so... WRONG, wasn't it?
<*Slowly places his Pokémon CD at the back of the CD-rack.*>
Then my work here is done. I saved you from the idea of cramming animals into little balls and only letting them out to fight!

Main screen turn on!

Ok... I started to play around with the spell check in Word and here is the grade it gave an all l33t version of All Your Base:
Reading ease: 76.7
Grade Level: 4.4
Uh... yeah. I don't think so.
Fire Storm - [<--- All your base are belong to Megatokyo]
Saturday, November 10, 2001 12:51:32 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

JAN::Ravyn and Coyote> *sais* I understand, though. You will be missed. =(

Okay, this annoys me. I was going to leave well enough alone but I feel I have to say something. I broke it off with Coyote over a year ago (a year and three months if you want to be picky) and he has a girlfriend. In all that time I have never bad-talked him or done anything negative to him in the CR. It'd be extremely immature of me, in my current position of co-admin to hold any prejudices against him just because he's an ex.

I know how to remain neutral when it comes to business, to say the very least.

Ravyn leaving the CR is even more ludicrous seeing as I have not traded more than ten words with the girl in the CR or IRL. I have absolutely nothing against her, nor her for me in any real way. She shouldn't feel run out simply because she's dating Coyote. It's very unfair to her.

Finally, what is it you "understand" about the situation, Jan? Am I that horrible a person that two people leaving on account of their own false assumption that I would treat either of them unfairly is something you'd expect as a logical course of action?? I'm curious.

That is all.
Shinigami
Saturday, November 10, 2001 12:07:17 AM
IP: 172.134.31.173

Welcome back Janine.

Imzadi> <<I'm working on a way to only have classes on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday next semester. How much would that rock?>>: Not too much. Even though you get four day weekends all the time, your three days would still be jam packed.
<>: Why, thank you.
<>: That has yet to be proven.
<<It could be>>: Makes for an awkward fill, though.
<<That's a whipping>>: I find it odd that the captain's daughter doesn't count as such.
<<Perhaps, but he did come into existence at some point>>: I think that was my point.

Niamhgold> <<Actually, art history minor and West Wing buff>>: Then the intestines are just a hobby, then?
<<She would've vomited as premed>>: I can talk about a lot, but I shy away from dissections, myself.
<<where'd Caliope get to?>>: Puerto Rico, last I heard.

Warpmind> <<details a bit off (say, more than four feet away)>>: Amazing, Eagle Eye.
<<Here's the scary bit... the opthalmologist IS in the next town>>: Yes, that is scary. And you'll have to excuse me, Jersey is the most densely populated state.
<<That package is probably going to have some interesting experiences on the way>>: I hope not. The envelope is quite thin. All their padded were much too large.

Greg> <<Blame Barbara Streisand>>: What happened to blaming Moochie?

Patrick> <<as god as my witness, I shall never use AOL again!>>: I applaud you.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, November 9, 2001 11:58:44 PM
IP: 165.230.240.114

Wow I'm on a roll...2 posts this year! Woo Hoo!
Any who...

Brooklyn-long time no see. thank you for e-mailing me. my life turned hectic when i moved out of my mom's house. one of my problems was no computer. my bigest problem was my roommate...what a slob!

I am updating my web site to include pictures of a very special person...little Alex...this may sound biased but he is soo cute!

Josh-okay so the movie sucked...but it was still fun to perform the show...and a word to the wise...NEVER date a cast member. I learned that the hard way...what is the name of the cast where you are...maybe i know them...any who...how about that slayer!?

TTFN
Fox
Janine Renard - [Purple_Pixy@msn.com]
Phoenix
Friday, November 9, 2001 11:44:03 PM
IP: 63.14.172.225

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Janine Renard - [Purple_Pixy@msn.com]
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Friday, November 9, 2001 11:34:15 PM
IP: 63.14.172.225

"There is no one dot com." - how many ways is that true?

yep, I'm in weekend mode as indicated by the image.

GXB - if you wanted to raise something controversial, say Barney does not suck.

**REBOOT**
Let me guess: I watched on toonami part 1 of another Reboot movie, right?
**END REBOOT SPOILERS**

**TF:RID**
I can't help but wonder how many people think if you put the last the three letters in front of the 1st two, that's what Bob Skir is trying to do to Transformers and he sending a subtle message about his intentions.

No, I am not part of the Bob-Skir-is-the-devil crowd of TF fandom.
**END TF:RID**

Warpmind, let me guess: part of your plans includes achieving perfect vision.

Imzadi - if you lose that check, I am NOT sending you another one. Once upon a time, I managed to move my schedule to have classes only on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. It worked a lot pretty well and better than having to go to class every day of the week.

My sinus problems seem to be under control.

Remember when I said my dad could stand any pepper I can eat. Well, guess what: he chickened out after having a much milder pepper.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, November 9, 2001 08:03:33 PM
IP: 204.94.193.63

:: hops in ::

It looks like whatever bug in the CGI was hating my DSL service has been corrected during the switchover to the new server... so as god as my witness, I shall never use AOL again! ;)

The lines at the movies have been insane this week because of "Monsters Inc." I'm really scared now what's going to happen when "Harry Potter" and "Lord of the Rings" both open.

And finally... there's been some info about G2002 posted in the S8 comment room. The hotel has been revealed, so everyone can start booking their rooms now. :)
:: hops out ::
Patrick Toman
Friday, November 9, 2001 07:22:35 PM
IP: 66.72.204.228

Yes, "The Tick" rocked. It wasn't the cartoon, but what is? Finally something to watch on Thrsday nights. Now if I can only get another black box and I'll be able to watch "South Park" again.

PATRICK> <<You might have better luck by just starting out convincing twelve close friends of that story>> You don't think Barbara Streisand is the scourge of humanity??? ;). Hmm, maybe that chinchilla was one of her evil minions out to confuse, irritate and get me to make an ass of myself. DAMN YOU STREISAND! ::I always wanted an arch-enemy ;)::

Seriously, I was trying to speed up the room a bit by posting something light hearted and potentially offensive. Maybe I crossed the line a little there ::shrugs::

JOSH> <<Just wait till you see my harem and think "all those chicks are sleeping with josh!">> I'll just kill you and take the harem. Nothing personal ;) <<He told you to command us to stop wearing tube socks with sandles, right?>> As a matter of fact, no. <<I'll think about it. Does it count if I just write my name on someone else's gift?>> I think it's moot at this point. <<And Berkeley shall be nuked, right?>> Yeah sure, why not?

JAN> <<God “skit” not funny, IMO>> Blame Barbara Streisand.

CHRISTINE> <<South Park > half the time, I watch that show in a state of sort of bemused shock, never really sure if I should laugh or be outraged. I guess that means they're doing their job!>> This is what makes it one of the greatest shows of the last decade.
Greg Bishansky
Castle Doom, Doomstatd, Latveria
Friday, November 9, 2001 06:33:58 PM
IP: 216.179.1.57

Two posts in two days? Wheee...if it si not a record, it is very close to it. Anyway, I have just a couple minutes for two replies. But, before, an announcement: I discovered that my email server has been down for the last 24 hours, but the worst is that it seems that at least one message was completely lost. So, if anyone emailed me in the last 24 hours, please resend it!

Josh:><<That leads to a horrible, horrible integral/summation. >> Yes, you're right...apart from the sheer number of integrals involved, there is the already mentioned interference drag to consider...practically, another integral for each component you consider. And, while many of the integrals for the components can be simplified to constants (after all, their shape is almost the same for all their lenght...), I suspect it is not possible for the interference drag...

Niamhgold:> <blushes> Argh! That's who I forgot yesterday...YOU! I am really sorry, my friend...I cannot believe I forgot to write you. Yes, I got your mail, and I was going to reply today, but as I said above my email server has some troubles. I will reply at once!

Warpmind:> Rough times for the Euro? Maybe, in the international currency market, while I don't expect strong oppositions from the people. Simply, once the new currency will be enstablished (and it will happen within a few months), there will be no other choice than using it. And, in a short time, people will get used to the advantages of the Euro, and will not even mind it anymore...at least, I think (hope) so.

That's all. See everyone!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Milan, Italy
Friday, November 9, 2001 06:08:46 PM
IP: 213.255.20.157

Well, the past week was... interesting, to say the least. First, I had to go without my glasses for a week (change of lenses - now I've got the nifty kind that becomes darker in brighter light, and vice versa), and now the power has been coming and going for the past couple of days...

Nukes: Sorry if I sounded cross there... I'm just not, as you suggested, too used to that question. Especially not in a CR like this. Nothing personal, I assure you. ;)

Jan: I can function quite well for some time without my glasses; details a bit off (say, more than four feet away) become a bit too blurry. (1 and 1.5 points correction, nearsighted)

Gside: Here's the scary bit... the opthalmologist IS in the next town... Norway is a VERY rural country...

Fire Storm: That Pokémon/Cthulhu crossover... Dude... I now hate you for that. *Slowly places his Pokémon CD at the back of the CD-rack.*

Josh: You've had trouble with baseball interrupting your stargate? Dude, don't you know that to avoid that problem, you have to just reverse the phase polarity of the interphase grid? };)

Moochie: That poem to Lara Croft... two things: First, you better keep a better eye on Jun, methinks. Second... don't you remember what that movie did to Lain? };) (Yes, she and I went to see it, too... Never again.)

Hi, Erin. Geesh, what is it with Brooklyn and the ladies, anyway? *Whistles innocently, trying not to hint at his own fanfic series.* };)

Woohoo! New Sabledrake! *Runs to check* And there's even a story by me there. :) Admittedly, it's not my favorite... and I do notice a kinda flamin' plothole there, but... *Sigh* No big matter...

With Mara as the co-admin, the Zero Wing quotes return... I HAVE THAT GENESIS ROM! YAY! }:)

Distorted Psyche to Gamma Faction, awaiting arrow, repeat, awaiting arrow. That package is probably going to have some interesting experiences on the way... };)

Shadowrider: You forget the biggest obstacle to the Euro: Sheer bloody-minded nationalism. Common mortals, in general, NEED to feel they belong to something that is "better" than their peers. Hence, the Euro, close as I can figure it, is going to have some REALLY rough times for several years now. If it survives the first decade, well... maybe it is strong enough to fend for itself... 'Course, if the Nereus project kicks in, the concept of currency is going to undergo a massive upheaval, anyway, rendering most present-day currencies obsolete. };)

Well, that's got me just about up to date...
Oh, and Moochie? Will ya please respond to that e-mail soon? I know you got it. };)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, November 9, 2001 02:52:11 PM
IP: 193.216.44.105

Josh >> I am ENGINEERING BOY! Fear me! <<

Mmm. Cubicle Man one day you too shall be! :: uses the Force to push some papers ::

Greg B. > You might have better luck by just starting out convincing twelve close friends of that story.

SJ > Glad to see you're not losing your touch. Who says you can't offend ALL of the people ALL of the time, after all? ;P
Patrick Toman
Friday, November 9, 2001 01:06:19 PM
IP: 64.81.9.210

What a difference seven hours of sleep makes! Much better.

Josh > well, now that you mention it, I've seen some ex-husbands who were practically gleeful! ; )

South Park > half the time, I watch that show in a state of sort of bemused shock, never really sure if I should laugh or be outraged. I guess that means they're doing their job!

Survivor > well, well, interesting show last night, quite interesting. This bunch had seemed sort of blah at first but the spite and the scheming and the total upset given to those young snots was pure delight! I wonder if the switch had been planned or was something they decided to throw at them spur of the moment.

The Tick > I'll admit it, I watched it and I liked it. I've got this weird secret fondness for superheroes that Tim has never quite been able to understand. I'd heard a rumor some time back that they were considering Bruce Campbell, and naturally I would have preferred that because he's the greatest, but the other guy whose name I forget did a fine job. I'll be adding one more show to my Thursday night lineup, looks like!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, November 9, 2001 10:54:55 AM
IP: 64.24.187.122

** Niamhgold enters **

Well, seems like I'm on a rather poor posting streak. But better than last year, considering I went on three months without making more than one-line posts ;)

Let's see, stuff going on: Not much. As you can imagine, schoolwork, lots of it. Have another midterm review next week; a fifteen minute private crit with my drawing teacher that's going to require 60+ hours of preparation. I think I know where this weekend is going ;) Oh, and saw Monsters Inc...darn, that was *awesome*!

Replies!:

Gside: <Pre med? Or just made tennis rackets for a hobby?> Actually, art history minor and West Wing buff. She would've vomited as premed, as she's even nauseous in her survey bio course ;) <I've heard good things about Sweden> Bah to Sweden. Or maybe that's just because I'm an Itali/Irish gal.

Shadowrider: <You are really right...although, I cannot say I don't appreciate that particular style of picturing female bodies (alright, I am a pig, I know...)> Nah, you're not a pig. Unless I'm a pig for drawing the same type of bodies when I do comic-style stuff ;) I appreciate the direction Marvel and Top Cow go with their male counterparts, as well... Agh, college. sorry. You'll make it through ** hugs ** Me? Did you happen to get my email?

Entity: <My initials correspond with Jesus Christ. Jonathan Cotleur = J.C.> But does your middle name begin with an H?

Lynati: <Looks like all of Sunday I'm literally going to have to be in the kiln room> Ooh, good luck with that ;) So, you're into the sculpting scene, eh? Any tips on what I should model characters out of, and what I should use for the armatures? I need to make figures to reference when drawing and creating in 3D Max...and you seem to be the gal who'd know ;) <The fact that you IM nude> That's not a flame war...that's a duck-and-cover ;)

FS: <Acedomedophin? Dosn't work at ALL on me> Well, it does have traces of back pain suppressant in it ;) <Were they ribbed for her pleasure? ;)> Nope, but flavored for her BF's ;) <PROOF that Apple is evil> Preach it! ;)

Daddy: <Or at least a student at your school> Nah, you don't, and you know it. You wouldn't be able to handle the charcoal ;) <oddly enough, midterms were at the EXACT same time last month!> And now I know the Berkeley cycle! All I have to do is chart biorhythms... <I'd rather they be West-Coast provoked telekinetic attributes> Or even better, West-Coast provoked teleportive attributes. <There are strict rules for joining my religion> Good thing I'm not on the list for the harem ;) <Bah, Jeremy Irons voiced Scar!> James Woods as Hades was better. <And very few men are stupid enough to leave a girl for the sole reason of upgrade to larger breasts> Boy, then, do I have a list of stupid guy friends ;) <Isn't that for periods?> Yes, but it's strong enough for back pain, wisdom tooth pain, and headaches unrelated to menstruation ;) <I'm working on a way to only have classes on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday next semester. How much would that rock?> That would rock ;) As it is, it looks like my classes would either give me Monday or Fridays off, with an easy day on Wednesday. <Family Guy rocked> The one with the chair joke? <Hey I just thought of something: how did Demona know that the gargoyles would sleep until the castle rose above the clouds?> Didn't she have the Grimorum at one point in the future? Or maybe, just by being the Archmage's apprentice, she knew the bulk of the spells in the book and could eliminate which were which by trial and error. In any case, an Ask Greg. <<<The fact that you IM nude! admit it!>>: You wish> Nah, she only wishes you were wearing a certain pair of boxers. <Have you ever met an ex-husband who wasn't bitter?> Yeah, the one who divorced his wife for a younger/better looking/better relationship. <There are 200 kids in his college and they all need to take the same courses...and every course only has 40-50 chairs> That's the luxury of being an Illustration major with an animation concentration...no one else wants to kill themselves like that except me ;) <That's a whipping> Nah, a riding crop doesn't whip, it just thwacks ;) <Those people are certifiable> Of ocurse they are...the thing would never have been produced in the first place if they weren't! ;) <I'm actually gonna GO to all my classes tomorrow. That'll be a first> You'll be allright; it only hurst the first time >;P <Well, I got an A on my mechanics test and a B on my math test, so I'm very happy> Congrats. You're the man.

Adios for now, amigos :) Hey, where'd Caliope get to?...
Niamhgold
Friday, November 9, 2001 08:08:50 AM
IP: 206.41.204.140

Alright I had my dynamics midterm today. It wasn't that bad, actually. I mean, I don't have confidence that I got ANY of the problems 100% correct, but I'm pretty sure I attacked them correctly, and that should be worth massive amounts of credit. "should" being the operative word.

I spent the rest of the day doing my fluids homework that's due tomorrow. I hate having all these assignments. This one took a REALLY long time.

I'm working on a way to only have classes on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday next semester. How much would that rock?

Hey I just thought of something: how did Demona know that the gargoyles would sleep until the castle rose above the clouds? She didn't have the grimorum, and she wasn't around to hear the spell being cast. Or was it all Xanatos who found the grimorum, read the legend, etc.

Family Guy rocked. The Tick rocked.

Replies.

Greg: <>: You too? <<God appeared before me on the bus this morning and gave me some tasks to fulfill>>: He told you to command us to stop wearing tube socks with sandles, right? <<into true light... or into darkness. I forget>>: Are they confusing? <<everyone is required to send me a gift>>: I'll think about it. Does it count if I just write my name on someone else's gift? <<Now New York City and Los Angeles are>>: And Berkeley shall be nuked, right? <>: LOL!

Lynati: <<where they don;t shave even their armpits>>: That's France. <<it's ILLEGAL to wear a suit or otherwise go clothed for health reasons>>: Yeah, but that means there are a lot of ugly naked people around. <<not roosting spaces>>: Oh. <<The fact that you IM nude! admit it!>>: You wish. <<is the placement of those last two responses awkward>>: Quite.

Christine: <<Guess who won>>: I guess...you. Oh look, I was right. <<Philosophy 101 from a professor who normally teaches only upper div>>: The funny thing is that at Berkeley, all classes numbered 100 and up ARE upper div. <<a bitter ex-husband>>: Have you ever met an ex-husband who wasn't bitter?

Spacebabie: <<there is only one classroom for advanced fiction, and one class for advanced poetry, Both only hold fifteen students, both are filled even before I was allowed to register>>: You should see my poor roommate. There are 200 kids in his college and they all need to take the same courses...and every course only has 40-50 chairs. <<there is nothing worse than being a Canadian>>: They actually said "@$$hole" on TV!

Shadowrider: <>: Ah, that sounds all too familiar. <<it coud be considered like a compound of many different shapes>>: That leads to a horrible, horrible integral/summation.

Entity: <<there can only be room for one Second Coming>>: What about a third? And a fourth?

FS: Apple hasn't formatted my harddrive yet! <<PROOF that Apple is EVIL!>>: No, proof that the three guys that write iTunes are idiots. Which I already knew since they can't seem to get the most powerful machine on the planet (mine) to stop skipping like mad.

Jan: <<God “skit” not funny, IMO>>: Bah. <>: No, you really don't. And if you did, you'd smack them both. <<11-9 the opposite of 9-11. Think about it>>: Think about WHAT? <<I’m hooked on Survivor this season>>: Dear god not another one.

Sevarius Jr: God rant...not entertaining. Or original.

DPH: <>: Maybe when I take over.

Gside: <<I've heard good things about Sweden>>: Only if you like blonds. I prefer brunettes, myself. <<We must get him out of there. It's far too perilous>>: I bet you're gay. <>: Highly doubtful. <<Tasty, but it isn't toroidal>>: It could be. <<what about the riding crop>>: That's a whipping. <>: That's what it is. And I NEVER learned it! <<Immortals can still have a time since which they existed>>: Perhaps, but he did come into existence at some point.

Janine: <<There is nothing wrong with the Rocky Horror Picture Show>>: You're kidding me, right? Nothing wrong!? You're nuts. And I would know, after nearly 100 shows, dating cast members, being offered positions on cast, etc. Those people are certifiable. <>: And apparently you are no exception. ;-)

Alright folks, I'm going to sleep. I'm actually gonna GO to all my classes tomorrow. That'll be a first.

If you don't get it right the first time, reload. -2cooltech.com
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berzerkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, November 9, 2001 03:04:53 AM
IP: 64.170.155.33

~Fox enters carying Alex~

Wow! Its been awhile...(wonder if anyone remembers me?)
I see lots of new names...

Josh- There is nothing wrong with the Rocky Horror Picture Show. I used to perform as Columbia.

I also see lots of old names...

Winterwolf- (hugs him tightly)Its been awhile. I'm glad to see that you are alright. How is your sister? How are you? Did you ever get my letter? I lost my hotmail acount and all my contacts... Well Alex is getting fussy...gotta go.

Janine Renard - [Purple_Pixy@msn.com]
Phoenix, Az
Friday, November 9, 2001 01:05:13 AM
IP: 63.14.199.116

::bows to Jan and DPH:: thank you for saying, Jan what I didn't have the guts to say. I've gotten sick of lil flame wars, and stuff, so i just kept my mouth shut, etc. I wish i'd had the sense to say something. My dad has wored with Special Education my whole life, and so i konw better than most the wonderful people that can be found when you look past the oustide appearance and handicaps. They are some of the most free souls anyone will ever meet and people mock them and treat them like they are less than th rest of us.

anyway. I'm off for a bit.... is anyone in here from around the Baltimore, MD area? Since i'm moving there... would be fun to meet some people in person....

laters
Aingeal
Thursday, November 8, 2001 10:26:06 PM
IP: 207.42.162.145

SOROW> <>: The first thing I reccommend you do is relax. After that, you should probably relax. And thirdly, you should relax. I believe being calm helps immensely while being tested. And it's useful in just about every other situation.
<<I'm convinced that psychology is just evil and that's it>>: It is, but that's another story.

Imzadi> <<But all the hot chicks are in Italy!>>: I've heard good things about Sweden.
<<Yes yes! And then the oral sex!>>: We must get him out of there. It's far too perilous.
<<But now we start getting into semantics>>: I'll be doing that later. I don't really feel like morphology.
<<Please don't hit on her. That is reserved for my friend Mike>>: I thought I could get a crack at any perversions that come by.
<<What happend to much was much, much worse>>: I know, it is rather difficult to explain how you got the locking bracers and spreader bar on all by yourself.
<<mine doesn't take up much space>>: Mine makes up for yours.
<<You can't give me everything that i want>>: I can.
<<Its amazing that no one ever picks up on that>>: Usually they do, or they lose interest.
<<How's that working for you during the winter?>>: They're even better then.
<<Some of us have never taken logic>>: It's not that hard. It's just a couple operations on statements that have a definite truth evaluation.
<<If he can't do it no one can>>: Or would want to. Thanks, though.<<Obviously he isn't in AP Psych>>: Nor was I. I picked that one up from my father.
<<A really big cream-filled doughnut>>: Tasty, but it isn't toroidal. I myself go for the icing type cream, as oppoed to Boston.
<<That's not a spanking. That's a flaying>>: So what about the riding crop?
<<Why are you referring to yourself as V?>>: I say it's because he isn't making full posts.

Patrick Toman> <<Top Ten Reasons to Major in Engineering>>: I heard it as "Reverse Polish."

Mooncat> <<Buy some shampoo, maybe it will help with your research>>: I thought that kind of thing was illegeal. And Wilek must be further along in his genetics research if natural purple hair is getting more common.

Fire Storm> <<But I said it in leet, so it wasn't mispelled>>: Truly? But it looked to be in all roman characters.
<>: I don't blame you. I just felt like getting deeper into the kink.
<<Immortal/Y>>: So what's the Y stand for? If it's yes, I thought you were ungendered. Oh, and I think eternal might be more appropriate. Immortals can still have a time since which they existed.
<<With liquid heat>>: Revenge of the Nerds?
New mp3 is Akai Kutsu no Sunday. Warpmind, you won't need to download this if you trust the mail.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, November 8, 2001 09:26:45 PM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

Jan - I don't think SJ's post on special Olympics was funny.

I have learned to appreciate some things better since I have a back problem. I will not ever visit a store for very long if they don't have somewhere to sit down and rest. One night I was at Walmart and I saw an employee filling up a bench with merchandise. That employee didn't get understand why the benches are there. In larger stores, I believe they should have places to sit down in the middle of the store. I have also learned that some handicaps you can't tell by looking at someone. Most of you won't recognize I have a back problem by looking at me. I strive to ensure that as people as possible notice my back problem. I don't mind reminding a friend that I have a back problem, but I do mind when it comes to someone I live with.

Speaking of real life, I do have to keep my voice under control all of the time because it gets loud. When I visit the chiropractor, some of the workers complain about my loud noise.

I bought some haberno peppers from Walmart. If I fail to post for a couple of days, you can guess what happened to me. I will wait until my dad is home before eating one because of safety concerns.

Yes, I do have a sinus problem right now. Between a spicy hot pizza and a haberno pepper, I plan on getting my noise unstopped. I lost a couple of hours of sleep over my sinus problems, but I am pretty sure that I had a 2 hour nap to solve that problem because I felt less sleepy afterwards.

I wouldn't mind replacing out calendar with something that had 13 months of 4 weeks and 1 holiday.
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, November 8, 2001 09:20:30 PM
IP: max1-55.cwy.cei.net

I figured I'd post this again in the midst of all of this - huddala huddala - wackyness concerning God.

[The philosophers sit and, and drink and stroke their beards.]

Philosopher #1: God is dead.

Announcer V.O.: Yes. "God is dead", cried Nietzsche. And the cry has been heard for years. But for each philosopher, there has been a cynic.

[Cynics pop out of nowhere]

Cynic #1: No way!

Cynic #2: Prove it!

Announcer V.O.: And that is where the argument has stalemated... until now!

[We see a man holding a small body. Two other men stand in the back.]

Man: God IS dead. And here is the body to prove it.

[The cynics appear, their hair messed]

Cynic #1: You've just blown my mind!

Cynic #2: Our minds have been blown!

[We see the philosophers, looking very smug]

[A doctor examines the body and nods sadly at the camera.]

Announcer V.O.: The world is shocked. First to find out God did in fact exist and second to find out he was now dead.

[We see a montage of crowd scenes, and various people looking stunned, ending with a shot of a sad priest.]

Priest: I've got some good news......and some bad news.

[Priest motions to the small coffin he stands next to.]

Announcer V.O.: But the world was most shocked to find out how small God was.

[We see several images of wind pushing around trees, lightning storms and a lower blooming in sped-up time during the next speech and finally the man holding the small body again.]

Announcer V.O.: Imagine winds.... storms... the miracle of life. All from this tiny God with such tiny hands and feet.

Man: He's really light, too!

[We see the Priest hold up and turn a small jacket. It has GOD spelled out on the back.]

Announcer V.O.: Yes, God did exist. He died. He was very small. Mystery solved!

{We see a mother and her daughter holding candles and crying.]

Announcer V.O.: The world has a brief period of mourning.

{Cut to pictures of trucks going down the highway.]

Announcer V.O.: And then it's business as usual, on the streets and highways that God built!

"Think, Don? Don, I have thoughts. Thoughts of Sounds. Sounds that have lightly kissed my eardrums. The silence of space that cries for the energy of a Johnny Winter guitar solo. Or even the soft murmur that comes off the nose of a sleeping puppy-dog, but must settle for silence For Silence.....No Sounds! No Sounds! Is that you Don.... or are you ready?"
---Evan, the Stereo Salesman
Sevarius "I sell Sound!" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Thursday, November 8, 2001 08:20:48 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

You know, I never thought I’d say this… but SJ, I’m so disappointed in you right now. I _understand_ your humor and I usually appreciate it and enjoy it but when you start laughing and making fun of people with handicaps and the Special Olympics, then I stop appreciating and understanding it. Please explain to me the humor in watching a child struggling and using all of their strength and concentration to limp, wheel, or struggle across a finish line in a 20 yard sprint. This child may not have even taken his first step until he was 8 or 9 years old. These children have unimaginable obstacles in their lives. For people to make fun of them because they “look” different or funny is beyond my comprehension. Where is the simple act of compassion here? To qualify to be in the Special Olympics, the child must have an IQ of 70 or below (mentally retarded). Does one feel superior or smarter because they laugh at a child participating in the SO?
Everyone claims to be open minded and non-judgmental – but let me tell you who is REALLY that way… special needs children. They don’t judge another person because of what they look like, who they are, or the color of their skin. They don’t laugh at other people if they are handicapped. They just love them and they’ll try to be friends with them. They only time I’ve seen a special needs child reject another child is because that child has been mean or hateful to them. It’s the behavior that they reject, not the person. I’d say that makes them pretty damn smart after all. They could teach a lot of “normal” people a lesson in acceptance and tolerance.
The song that you posted has to be one of the most insensitive, disgusting, and cruel lyrics that I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading.
So once again, please explain to me what is so funny about special needs children doing the best that they can and achieving remarkable feats during the Special Olympics.
These are CHILDREN you are making fun of, SJ. Children that have special needs and are considered by society to be of misfortune. Well, I’ll take a houseful of special needs children over a lot of “normal” children that I’ve encountered.

Feel free to sit in a wheel chair for ONE day and see how funny it is. Or what would really be a hoot is to forget how to spell your name! Yeah! That’s funny! No.. wait!! This will really crack you up… cross your legs for an entire day and walk around like that! Nothing like a severe scissor gait to get you going in the morning. Oh boy, you’ll be the life of the party then! But the problem with this is that you CAN remember how to spell your name, you CAN get out of the wheelchair or uncross your legs… they can’t. Also, most of these children with physical handicaps more than likely have already experienced more surgeries to do some type of correction than you’ll have in your entire lifetime. Let’s not forget that they have a lifetime of internal problems/dysfunctions… breathing, heart, digestive, etc. You know what would be hilarious?? Don’t swallow all day, you know.. let the drool pile up and drip down your chin and the front of your shirt…( kids that drool like that do so because they don’t have the brain function that says to automatically swallow. It’s a separate thought process for them which usually has to be cued or reminded to swallow) ohhhmyyyy, I’m rolling in the floor laughing! Yeah, I can see the humor now *nods* not.
I’m not angry but I am terribly disappointed that you would find humor in this.

GregB> God “skit” not funny, IMO.

Ravyn and Coyote> *sais* I understand, though. You will be missed. =(

I am in admiration of the head detective at work. They brought in this punk 14 year old with a mouth that would make a sailor blush. He was in handcuffs and ankle shackles… he tried to slip his arms to his front (going underneath his feet). The detective, Dave caught him and promptly and not so nicely told him to put his hands back where they were. The kid couldn’t (wouldn’t) so Dave “helped” him out… by turning the kid upside down and shaking him up and down. I happened to be standing a few feet away and it took all that I had to keep from cheering Dave on. The kid’s mom went beserk and made a very stupid mistake of “attacking” the sheriff. He promptly pinned her against the concrete wall and informed her that if she said one more word or attempted one more time to have physical contact with her son, he would arrest her for interfering with a police officer. (The kid was not being hurt.) All the time this was going on and Dave had the kid pinned on the ground, the grandma was patting Dave on the back softly… as if to say, “thanks”.
Dave did what I’ve wanted to do to punk kids for years but couldn’t! hehe

Ok, as I will filling out the paperwork today and dating the stuff.. I realized that tomorrow will be the 9th. No big deal, right? 11-9-01. *looks around suspiciously* 11-9 the opposite of 9-11. Think about it. ;)

I’m hooked on Survivor this season and it’s time to go watch it. I still don’t totally understand the “rules” and such, but I’m slowly learning.
Jan
Thursday, November 8, 2001 08:12:09 PM
IP: modem20-194.mo-net.com

FS: That was ONE installer for iTunes that was pulled 20 minutes later and replaced with a working on the next day. Nevermind that I ran the ORIGINAL installer and nothing happened to my machine
Josh
Thursday, November 8, 2001 07:24:33 PM
IP: adsl-64-170-155-33.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Quick link...

Here is proof that Apple will format your hard drives if you download this little music software!

BEWARE! ;)
Fire Storm - [<--- PROOF that Apple is EVIL!]
Thursday, November 8, 2001 05:34:04 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Greg> Hey now, there can only be room for one Second Coming, and I've got proofs. It all started when I saw this movie. The name escapes me but it was a '00 release, I believe. Anyway, from that I learned the Messiah would be born on December the 16th--which is my birthday. My next sliver of evidence came when I was at the mall some time later. I flipped through a name book to see what mine meant. My name, Jonathan, means "Gift From God." Hmmm. Very interesting. The last piece of the puzzle? The most obvious of all. My initials correspond with Jesus Christ. Jonathan Cotleur = J.C.

What further proof do we need, I ask you?
Entity
Thursday, November 8, 2001 05:06:15 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

Ok, guyz and dolls, I am here again...almost a week from the last time I posted, I had hoped to be able to post more than once a week, but it seems to be impossible...the thing that disturbs me is that so I arrive late in the most interesting discussions...damn!

And things are not going to improve in short time...I have four tests in the coming ten days (Analytical Dynamisc of fluids, Applied Electronics, Aeronautical Structures and Turbine Propellers) and I also have to refresh other things, so I suppose I will have to continue living on a 30 hours of 24 basis...:(

Warpmind:> <Euro> Not that much of a lifespan? I don't think...simply, once the new currency will be enstablished, no government will feel the need to face the costs of a reconversion to previous currency; furthermore, the people will probably get used to the new in a short time, and will feel no need to return to past. I agree on the fact that EU would be supposed to express itself with more than just a new currency (although, it is a beginning...), and so I think it is meritorious the work of Romano Prodi, who is going to make so that decisions in EU are taken at European level instead of an intergovernative level as it is by now...

Yooper:> << the loads on the buildings frame *are* asymmetrical>> I know, but I was referring to an asymmetry of thousands of tons...
<<the aerodynamic effects >> Hm, interesting objection...and on my field too. I'd love to have time (and fuel...) to develop it properly, but I cannot now...so, I will try some considerations. Well...I have no data about wind speed above NYC, I have no time to look for them now and I can only suppose the dimensions of the castle, so I cannot try a quantification of the forces involved...anyway, you say that the flat sides of a skyscraper are less aerodynamic than the castle, and that a building with a castle on its top is just like a taller building (how much taller?). I disagree on it. If you consider just frontal section you could be right, but the castle is not a regular shape. Actually, it coud be considered like a compound of many different shapes; so, you must consider interference drag (drag force due to the interference of airflows flowin around close objects - like wings and fuselace of an aircraft, for example). Being the castle a very big object, and being its components a high number, the interference drag can become very high. Enough? No, I think. As I said, I don't know wind speed above NYC, but knowing that it is built near the sea, and that the Eyrie building is supposed to be very high, I think you should consider the chance of a passage from laminar airflow to turbulent airflow, what could greatly increase total drag, eventually because the castle's surface is not smooth. Summarizing, my objection is that such an irregularly-shaped object like a medieval castle is going to cause very bigger aerodynamic effects than a bigger object with a more linear shape. I could say more, but I am too sleepy now, so maybe I will add something more another time.

Winterwolf & Dreamie:> Good to see you two here again! Did you get my email?

Emambu:> Glad to see you too! It's been a while indeed! I had sent you a email back in September, did you get it? I will try to write you soon (I'd like to do it tonight, but I think I have no energy...

Allright...I KNOW I am forgetting someone, but I have not the force to go and control...if I missed someone, please tell me and I will try to remedy. See everyone, and goodnight!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider]
Milan, Italy
Thursday, November 8, 2001 04:35:20 PM
IP: h213-100-59.mi.albacom.net

DPH- Piccolo does survive Buu, but he gets killed in DBGT.
Galvatron
Thursday, November 8, 2001 04:28:04 PM
IP: 01-105.037.popsite.net

Greetings all I had an interesting past few days.
First I’m pissed, Why? Cause there is only one classroom for advanced fiction, and one class for advanced poetry, Both only hold fifteen students, both are filled even before I was allowed to register, thus screwing up my graduation plans. I am going to be put on the waiting lists. Keep your fingers crossed.

Yesterday my friend Dana found a stray kitten in her back yard. It was only 3 weeks old. She was nursing him, but she couldn’t keep him cause !)Its going to grow up and 2) She has a bird, so we took it to Petsmart where they had an adoption center. I returned there after class and the kitten was adopted.

There were three performances in my class today. Two groups did scenes from A Midsummer’s Night’s Dream and they were decent but my favorite was the scene from King Lear. It was the scene where Gloucester gets his eyes gouged out. They performed it in the style of Resevoir Dogs, where the cop gets his ear cut off. Even had the music.

****************SPOILERS FOR SIMPSONS AND SOUTHPARK**************
Simpsons>>>Treehouse of horror was pretty decent. The Leprechaun was funny. The robo house was pretty cool, I loved hearing Matthew Perry say “Can I be any more of a house?” I loved the Harry Potter take off, including Harry Potter, and at the end with the Leprechaun, Pierce and the mangle frog guy.

Southpark>>>Okay we got to see Towlie again. Cartman pollutes his friends with his fart, thinks there is nothing worse than being a Canadian and kicks Bin Laden’s ass Bugs Bunny style. It was priceless
End SPOILERS*************************************************
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl
Thursday, November 8, 2001 12:49:46 PM
IP: 1cust52.tnt3.orl3.da.uu.net

Guess who won four tickets to the advance showing Seattle premiere of the Harry Potter movie this morning in a radio contest? Whee! Can't believe it. They had a woman on before me, a grandmother who said she hadn't read the books but was trying to win for her grandkids, and she got the questions wrong so it was my turn, aced it, gonna see the movie this Sunday!

Sorow > I had my share of dismal grades in college too. Never take Philosophy 101 from a professor who normally teaches only upper div, and never take a general science class with a bitter ex-husband. Brrr. Avoiding acting classes when one has to have throat surgery and is therefore unable to talk for months is also a good tip.

Darn it, I should know better than to post when I'm tired, I always forget half of what I want to say. Off to bed!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, November 8, 2001 12:45:06 PM
IP: 11-123.075.popsite.net

*In*

firing ENG this weekend..started candling today. Looks like all of Sunday I'm literally going to have to be in the kiln room. "fun". :P

Imzy: <<anyone in college want to come on a nifty summer program that tours eastern europe for a couple weeks?>>: Eastern Europe!? But all the hot chicks are in Italy!>>: (...where they don;t shave even their armpits.) But the hotel in Dresden has the best pools and saunas, and it's ILLEGAL to wear a suit or otherwise go clothed for health reasons. <<<A big tree would suffice; they are light enough>>> <<Not during the day>>: Why would they be attempting to fly during the day? the point we were arguing was there need (or lack of) cliffs to get airborn; not roosting spaces. <<Poor Zafiro...he has to climb a tree without the benefit of feet.>>: He seems to be strong enough to take off from the ground in "the green". and snakes can climb trees anyway. <<Don't flatter him.>>: Okay. I won;t. <<You are missing out. Its great fun.>>: Aww, and now he doesn't want to play. Huh. Wanna start a flamewar? We go can back and forth about...uh...ah! The fact that you IM nude! admit it! ;P <<But not a very pretty picture.>>: I dunno, It was pretty to ME. but then, maybe I've just been writing Nem's character too much again...
My, is the placement of those last two responses awkward.

's all for now.
*goes to try and catch a nap*
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Thursday, November 8, 2001 11:45:31 AM
IP: kcx-ks22a-47.rasserver.net

Damn, this place is very quiet.

Someone say something offensive, and fast!

Okay, I'll do it.

I have just discovered that I am the Messiah. God appeared before me on the bus this morning and gave me some tasks to fulfill.

Let me tell you about God first. Ever wonder if God was male or female? Well, God is a hermaphrodite. God is also a chinchilla. He/she is really small also.

Anyway, God told me that it is my destiny to lead the world into true light... or into darkness. I forget. I must father fifty bastard children to carry on after I am gone. Though I am allowed to have sex with more than fifty women ;)

Halloween shall also become the most sacred day of the year, something all are required to participate in. And on my birthday, everyone is required to send me a gift. Any who fail to do so will be castrated. I am looking forward to my next birthday ;)

Also, Jerusalem, Mecca and Vatican City are no longer sacred places. Now New York City and Los Angeles are.

And Barbara Streisand is the scourge of all humanity and must be destroyed horribly. Damn, I didn't need God to tell me that. I don't think anyone needs God to tell them that.

Now after all this it makes me wonder. What did my friend put in my morning coffee? Whatever it is, I want some more ;)

Real post later.
Greg Bishansky
Thursday, November 8, 2001 11:37:13 AM
IP: 167.206.248.14

::walks in were a shirt with a big "E" on it::

I am ENGINEERING BOY! Fear me!

Well, I got an A on my mechanics test and a B on my math test, so I'm very happy. I also got a number of good grades on various homework assignments. I'm feeling quite invincible, despite still needing to spend tonight studying. Which sucks balls.

***SOUTH PARK SPOILERS***

South Park ROCKED! I love this show. Only on South Park can they get away with confusing Stevie Nicks for a GOAT.

A piece of advice: don't watch this episode if you are at all offended by any of the stuff with Afghanistan.

***END SOUTH PARK SPOILERS***

I'm getting harassed by my mother to help her repair her laptop. Its really simple and she refuses to just take it in without asking me every step of the way. Now here's what I predict will happen: she'll do something I told her not to do and then blame me when her data gets lost or something like that. I HATE playing tech support when I'm not being paid. And you can't say that was part of the deal when she bought the laptop, since she hasn't bothered to pay me for the other half yet.

Anyway...

Reproduction argument: This has officially degnerated into "you suck in bed". So I'm out.

Dreamie/Wolf: <<but you aren't factoring in the offset of stone sleep>>: says who? Maybe they just eat a LOT of pigeons. <<Broadway ate about that much when they focused on him eating>>: I would if I were that fat. <<at least there's a three day weekend in sight>>: Thank goodness.

Patrick: <<being sent into space and made to read bad fanfic>>: In the not too distant future? <<I'd like to read those 8 million stories>>: Even if they're all crappy? <<Top Ten Reasons to Major in Engineering>>: Some of those aren't very good reasons... <>: Oh me too. Absolutely. The point though was that its easy to spit out a lot of crap. <<Why it seems more acceptable for badly written erotica to be posted versus other genres of fanfic, I have no idea.>>: It drives me NUTS. If I were head of TGS edits, I'd have near-zero tolerance for mistakes. I mean, no one is perfect, but it makes things really hard to read when your grammar/spelling sucks. And you're right, there does seem to be more poorly-written porn than anything else.

Taleweaver: <<It's hump day>>: Damn and I missed it again. <<just as Cal Poly finished their new Engineering Building>>: They have engineers there!? <<Tell me where I can get a set of groupies>>: Let me know when you find out. <<Not after spending last week watching people gush over the Rocky Horror Picture Show. (That is a musical and a cult classic>>: We only gush because its a cult classic, not because its a musical. I assure you, its quite dead.

Mooncat: <<your problem with relating to female satisfaction>>: Wait, who said I have trouble relating to it? All I did was play devil's advocate against its purpose. Don't assume things you obviously have no knowledge of. <<An organic experience is the opposite of an artificial or mechanical experience>>: Ah, I see. <<Buy some shampoo>>: Lousy lubricant. <>: What part of "COULD spit them out" is confusing? <<The most I've paid for cels was around $1500 for my three Thundercat cels>>: Hey patrick she's loaded too!

DPH: <<You grumble about me sending your check, and then you take a few days to cash it>>: Its more important for me to have the check (proving you're not a deadbeat). The check will get cashed when I have a chance. No sooner. <>: Why not 98SE? <<spam from this person who does not leave a from email address and I can't block that address>>: Block email that has no return address. <<that makes me what to read one of the books just to see what they are complaining about>>: There's a wizard. What more do they need? <<everytime someone says if you touch (an object), something bad will happen to you, my first intial reaction is to touch said object with a finger>>: Try it IRL. <<The other day he accused me of worshipping my computer because I spend so much time on it>>: I worship my computer. And I'm fine with that.

Greg X: <>: You were. <<pukes into a doggy bag>>: Just wait till you see my harem and think "all those chicks are sleeping with josh!"

Shinigami: <<I've got to stop waking up so late, it messes with my biological clock>>: There's a guy at Apple that runs on a 25 hour clock...drives his boss nuts. But I think its funny as hell. <<I'm no pacifist>>: Good! <<That's why its a joke, sweetie>>: Phew. Glad you explained that.

Coyote: Don't leave us. Its not worth it.

Todd: <<if I had a dollar for every time somebody writing about the X-Men on the Internet spelled Rogue's name "Rouge", I could probably compete on equal terms with David Xanatos>>: I'd rather have a nickel for every time someone misspelled anything technical. <<vampires oughtn't to be able to procreate>>: Yes they can...by biting people ;-)

FS: <<What traumatic event happened to her with Bunnies>>: She thinks they're scary. I don't know why. <<What you say?>>: Be quiet and make your time. <>: And THEN the oral sex? <<Immortal/Y>>: Immortal/M, here. ;-) <<VERY good point!>>: I thought so. <<With liquid heat!>>: I dunno, that might feel good. <<I'll find a way, though!>>: and you'll be a millionaire. THEN will you start building my suit!? <<at least YOU mentioned python>>: For some reason, I always think of oral sex when someone mention spanking. <<Just the shipping routes>>: Alright, fine. Two countries ;-) <<dosn't Xanatos have some sliding doors and an elevator shaft?>>: Well, I don't think it counts if you ADD to the castle. My question is what happens if you subtract from it. <<Not you too!>>: Pretty soon this room is just gonna be you, me, and Gside.

Yooper: <>: Ooh. Not good. <<it's a method for finding the rxns of indeterminate beams.>>: Wait, I DO know the stiffness method! ;-) <<My materials exam was on concrete>>: Ooh, I took that class. I got either a B+ or an A-, can't remember. That was a tough class. <<That's like asking a programming TA to debug your program for you>>: They did. Of course, my programs were 20 lines or shorter. <<Six problems, eight hours>>: Ugh, thank you NO. <<Even if you had to transport them as oversized loads, do it at night>>: Right cuz Manhattan traffic is so much better then. David Xanatos would effectively shut down the city. <<a helicopter can't lift as much as a regular crane>>: Yeah, but it can get much higher. <<they produce too much garbage and use too much electricity>>: How is it any more than a bunch of smaller office buildings?

Ravyn: <<good luck to all those who have midterms and tests coming up>>: Thanks. <<I'll be going into lurk mode around here too>>: I thought we've been over this. As the only female engineer, you are NOT permitted to leave.

Alright folks, I've been studying for most of the night. I'm tired.

Holy shit! Silent Bob's an insturment of god? -Jay, Dogma
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berzerkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, November 8, 2001 03:23:12 AM
IP: adsl-64-170-155-33.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

*Enters in briefly*

Skippy: Well, you may know what you need but to get what you want better see that you keep what you have. ;)

Lynati: *waves back* Yep, I'm caught up reading wise. As far as actually posting goes... well, classes, story editings, and the fact that I'm a real lazy sod sometimes doesn't help any.

*sees Dreamie and Winterwolf* Hey, more people I haven't heard from in a while. How are you two doing?

Shadowrider: OMG, you're back! Dude, I haven't heard from you since May. I gotta send you an e-mail.

*fades out*

---Emambu
Emambu
Philadelphia, PA, USA
Thursday, November 8, 2001 01:03:53 AM
IP: dorms-pppoe-1-72-70.pittsburgh.resnet.pitt.edu

Hmm, it seems that this weeks Buffy really instilled a very Bipolar reaction in people. They either loved it or hated it.
Just out of curiosity: Are there any musicals anyone happens to like? My personal favorite is "Into The Woods"
Skippy The Klingon
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 11:38:04 PM
IP: ppp54.tele-base.net

**DPH walks in the CR and quickly sneezes.** Sorry about that, my sinuses are acting up.

Guess which religious group decided to protest Harry Potter. If you guess Southern Baptists, you are correct. You know what: that makes me what to read one of the books just to see what they are complaining about.

I read an newspaper article from a writer a while back: He said he was hoping one of his books would be banned: why? once a book is banned, sells for that book skyrocket.

Imzadi - sorry, but generally everytime someone says if you touch (an object), something bad will happen to you, my first intial reaction is to touch said object with a finger.

When did my dad and I have an argument last night? It was over not getting his sheets dried. He has done that to me two or three times. Can anyone say 'hypocrite'?

The other day he accused me of worshipping my computer because I spend so much time on it. I wanted to ask him, if by that definition, a husband who spend lots of time with his wife worships his wife. Most of my time spent on this computer is NOT spent playing games, but responding to, reading, and composing email.

If Newton and Einstein had chat while both were living, then I have some ocean front property to sell to you in Arkansas.

5 cybercookies for anyone who caught the popular culture reference I just made.

**DBZ spoilers**
does Piccolo surive to the end?

I have to wonder if Vegeta won't bring Majin Boo to a public location so that Vegeta can get public credit for saving the world.
**END DBZ spoilers**

**DPH starts sneezes some more as he leaves the CR**
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 10:54:36 PM
IP: max1-41.cwy.cei.net

Wow! Those cels looke pretty *sweeet*

But I am loath to bid on an auction where the seller has no feedback numbers. Anyone know the seller? Is it a legit dealer?

The most I've paid for cels was around $1500 for my three Thundercat cels, which I got from a production crew member. But this also included a number of production scripts.

I'd love to have that Goliath and Demona cel. sigh.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 10:40:42 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Gargoyles cells up on Ebay. Prices are too rich for me at the moment, but they look fantastic. Lexy thought maybe someone in the fandom might be interested. Take a look, even if it is just curiousity. It is just nice to see this stuff is still floating around.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1481766328
Kai
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 10:26:43 PM
IP: 141.133.150.18

Hey, all.

**sighs** Well, another long day ... good luck to all those who have midterms and tests coming up. :)

Okay, I've been feeling a little ... blah lately ... and I know I mentioned this a few weeks back, but I'm sort of in the mood again where, well ... I think I need a little time off.

So I'll be going into lurk mode around here too ... if anyone needs to get a hold of me, I'll be around on IM and e-mail. I'll be lurking about here every once in a while too. Take care, all!
Ravyn
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 09:33:30 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Just got back from my hydrology exam. I didn't understand one of the questions on it *at all.* Oh well, I think I did all right on the rest of it.

I heard today that the bombs outside the forestry building didn't go off because of the cold temperatures. Now I think ELF (if it is them) is even stupider than before.

On to replies:

Josh>><<That sounds like something I should know about>> Actually, it's a method for finding the rxns of indeterminate beams. My materials exam was on concrete.<<Cursed forestry majors, dumber than bricks and hogging all the nice buildings on campus>> I'm gonna be nice to the twigs today. They seem to have to deal with a higher moron factor in eco-freaks. <<Eh, just go to office hours and have them tell you how to do it>> It was an Excel spreadsheet w/ a formula wrong. That's like asking a programming TA to debug your program for you. It's not like I didn't understand the problem. <<Or any other homework>> You'd love the structures assignment I had a week ago. Six problems, eight hours. <<It'd be in violation of FAA regulations if it was taller tahn 2000 feet.>> I meant as a thought experiment. Basically, if it was structurally possible to build the Eyrie significantly higher, that would be a lot more difficult than putting a castle on it. Wind load, if nothing else. <<As usual, you can fix that with bigger bolts>> That still doesn't answer the problem of them pulling thru the rock. <<A SKYcrane>><<It'd have to be a big truck. Its a better bet to keep them on a ship in the harbor and transport them by chopper. Driving them to the site would create many many square blocks of solid traffic>> I haven't seen any evidence that the blocks are too large to fit on a standard eighteen-wheeler. Even if you had to transport them as oversized loads, do it at night. Using a helicopter would be crazy; think of the fuel costs alone. I haven't researched it, but I'd think a skycrane would be an absolute last resort. Anyway, a helicopter can't lift as much as a regular crane. <<Well as a civil engineer, your opinion on the subject is biased>> True. But all of the criticisms that I've seen are basically that they produce too much garbage and use too much electricity. This strikes me as silly, since there is very little trash or energy costs due to the skyscraper itself. This means that not having the skyscraper would produce just as much energy and garbage, but you'd have to drive around and pick it up, thus using more fuel and producing mor CO and CO2. Plus, then you get less urban sprawl.

Patrick>><<Structural engineers do it by the stiffness method?>>LOL

Fire Storm>><<but I can't see how a cable that long could be made to be flexable enough to use>>Flexibility isn't a problem. Length is. Most cranes couldn't pick straight up 1400 feet. I asked my father about this and he told me that they will pick things in stages thru the core of the building if they don't have the cable to do it. I.e., use a block and tackle to pick it up to the 15th floor, then from there to the 30th, etc.

Must go do structures, study for quiz.
Yooper - [jwprusi@spamproof.up.net]
Hougton, MI
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 09:18:09 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

Buffy: The Musical: My GOD, Tara and Sara Michelle both have EXCELLENT singing voices!

Mooncat: <Love the special effects on the Buffy episodes lately, very smooth and magical>
OH! Like the last vamp Buffy dusted in her intro song!
<"I have a theory, it may be bunnies...">
What traumatic event happened to her with Bunnies?

SJ: <For example: Send someone a CD by the group Anthrax. See? You could say, "Hey, I'm sending you Anthrax." And you'd be golden>
I knew there had to be a good joke involving that group somewhere in this mess!

Shinigami: <All your asses are now belong to me>
What you say?

Gside: <Yes, that gets difficult. And I'll read that a full, not fill>
But I said it in leet, so it wasn't mispelled.

Hmm... a ring world... Lord of the rings...
<Sorry, no. Maybe I'll check Douglas>
Last I saw she was hanging with an astronaut.
<No cat o'nine tales?>
I'll see.
I must tie her to a bed and spank her!
;)
Hey, I had to throw in Python!

Erin: <Just wondering A/S every one? 14/F>
Immortal/Y

Imzadi: <You don't watch Boston Public, do you?>
Nope. I just rember it from the news a vew years ago.
<Which I believe was the last time it didn't suck>
Thats what I thought.
<mmmm...doughnuts>
Homer eats the world!
<Well without a built-in powerplant, that thing would have to come down every few days. Which isn't unreasonable. I mean, we've only seen it in the air for 22 minutes at a time>
VERY good point!
<Bet yet, replace their jock-itch powder entirely>
With liquid heat!
<Oh, that one doesn't count. They wake up again>
I know... I'll find a way, though!
<Yes yes! And then the oral sex!>
Well, at least YOU mentioned Python!
<But none of them have offered you a country>
Na. Just the shipping routes.
<No, bad psuedocode>
Well, my head hurt at that time.
<Um, cables get more flexible with length>
Yeah, but width limits the radius it can be turned in.
<But now we start getting into semantics. Does it count for breaking the curse if only the "shell" of the castle is lifted above the clouds?>
Apparently. I mean, dosn't Xanatos have some sliding doors and an elevator shaft?

Coyote: <I'm goin' into semi-permanent lurk mode here.>
NO, DANG IT, NO!
Not you too!
:(
Fire Storm
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 08:53:15 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Patrick Toman - <<I really prefer quality to quantity, actually. I'd rather read one really well-crafted story than a dozen that we hastily written in one afternoon with the wrong verb tenses and no spell-checking. And that applies to ANY fanfic, erotica or not. Why it seems more acceptable for badly written erotica to be posted versus other genres of fanfic, I have no idea. But anyone who ever worked with me when I was Head of Edits for TGS knows I have a very low tolerance for poor writing.>>

I agree with you on prefering quality over quantity; I've seen a lot of fanfic and writing on the Internet (not just Gargoyles fanfic, but fanfic for other series as well), that had alarmingly sloppy spelling (if I had a dollar for every time somebody writing about the X-Men on the Internet spelled Rogue's name "Rouge", I could probably compete on equal terms with David Xanatos).

*shakes his head sadly *

*ANGEL SPOILERS *

I don't have any problems with Holst showing up, myself; actually, he strikes me as a very promising new antagonist. After all, up till now, nearly everybody whom Angel's been battling against were definite villains (with one or two special exceptions, such as Skip), people whom he's sworn to protect the innocent from. But Holst is somebody whom he's done damage to back in his Angelus days, murdered his family, and who knows what else. So Holst has a genuine grievance against Angel. That will make their encounter very dramatic - at least, potentially. Will Holst realize in time that Angel is no longer the psychopathic vampire who murdered all that were dear to him, no longer Angelus? And even if he does, will that be enough to make any difference to him?

At any rate, I quite enjoyed the episode. Nice to see the Host repairing his club (and another look at those three "Angel-groupies"). And it'll be interesting to see how Angel and Darla's child turns out. (I wonder, indeed, just how they were able to manage it, given that vampires oughtn't to be able to procreate).

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 07:00:35 PM
IP: sdn-ar-001mosloup150.dialsprint.net

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Anonymous
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 06:59:53 PM
IP: 24-196-121-174.fdl.wi.charter.com

Uhmm ...

Yeah.

I've been thinking about it for a while, but *this* clinches it. I'm goin' into semi-permanent lurk mode here.

Why?

To quote Garth Ennis ...

"I cannot and by God WILL not kiss the requisite amount of ass."

**lurks into the dark shadows**
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 06:36:34 PM
IP: 64.243.214.156

Mara > So can you give me any idea on how much longer before I'll be able to see those pics? :)

ASAP, I hate mking you wait, but money is tight, ( i pay for scanner usage) I have to pay off a phone bill, so at the most by thanksgiving. hopefully sooner.

Shinigami
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 06:32:06 PM
IP: ac99c785.ipt.aol.com

Mooncat > You GO, girl. ;)

Mara > So can you give me any idea on how much longer before I'll be able to see those pics? :)

Josh > Re fanfic: "spit them out like wildfire" - I really prefer quality to quantity, actually. I'd rather read one really well-crafted story than a dozen that we hastily written in one afternoon with the wrong verb tenses and no spell-checking. And that applies to ANY fanfic, erotica or not. Why it seems more acceptable for badly written erotica to be posted versus other genres of fanfic, I have no idea. But anyone who ever worked with me when I was Head of Edits for TGS knows I have a very low tolerance for poor writing.

>> Can never have too much Demona *^_~* <<

Amen to that, Mooncat. Can I get a "Jalapena!" ;)
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 06:27:21 PM
IP: ac88e754.ipt.aol.com

*walks in, collapses into large armchair* I've got to stop waking up so late, it messes with my biological clock. No, not that clock, I'm only twenty.

Replies::

Josh::<<Now I am>>: How come you get to be one!? I mean, aside from the fact that you're sleeping with the other co-admin?>>

Because the postion was open and because I asked, and it was okayed by the other admins. (I mean, it's not like I'm sleeping with Robby, then it'd be an unfair call.) It seems to me that being a co-admin is a thankless job no one in their right mind would want to be stuck with. Luckily, I'm never in my right mind.

Jen:: - OH YEAH! Finally an admin to end all admins! Kick some tail girl!!

Of that I intend. I'm no pacifist. ;) Besides, in the past I posted only to plug fic and put my two cents into flame war discussions. This'll make me post more.

Josh again::. <<Finally an admin to end all admins>>: That wouldn't be as funny if Aaron and Mara weren't involved.

That's why its a joke, sweetie.

Lynati::<< Woo! Does this mean you’ll be posting more? (Oh crap, your first day, and I think I may get you yelling at me. Ee.) Oh. And lain’s site is down. I may take you up on your offer from a while ago to host stuff of mine; if it still stands. >>

Well, I'll have to follow the room more closely, that's for sure. Aww, have I ever raised my voice above the sweet gentle hum of a whisper? *wink* Hmm, we'll talk on it, she still may want to host your site, y'nno. (I'd hate to be accused of trying to replace Lain)Also, you could ask Jen for space on the art-chicks server, providing you draw her some hunky men.

GXB::QUEEN OF VICE> Congrats on your new position as Co-Admin. I'm sure you'll be doing a great job.

Thanks! Seems like I'm becoming more and more involved in the fandom as of late.

*curls up in her chair, drawing hentai for the masses to relax*
Shinigami
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 04:53:50 PM
IP: ac95c69e.ipt.aol.com

V- the young ones do learn. yeah, im sad too.

sj-flame wars are pointless. consider that you are for the better for sitting that last one out. you wont see me in another "flame war".

greg- yeah, i hate internet withdrawl. everything else just seems so trivial.

josh- i hate school anyway. cant wait till its over.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 04:42:48 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

I finally have my Internet access back. I feel like I was going through withdrawl.

QUEEN OF VICE> Congrats on your new position as Co-Admin. I'm sure you'll be doing a great job.

SPACEBABIE> I'm a real smartass. Nothing fake about me. Except that fake I.D. I had since I was fifteen. But that probably doesn't count.

*** BUFFY SPOILERS ***

Yes, "What the Hell was that" was my reaction as well. I tried to give this a chance, I tried to tell myself that Joss could pull this off. Boy was I wrong. What the Hell was Joss smoking??? Certainly not the good stuff he smoked when he came up with "Hush".

Spike and Buffy kissing> ::pukes into a doggy bag::

Anya dancing around in that red number was the one thing that saved this episode. It raised it into the "Garbage" category as opposed to being the "Putrid Pile of Bile rotting next to the Dumpster in an Alley" category.

Hmm, need I say more?

*** END BUFFY SPOILERS ***
Greg Bishansky
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 04:23:46 PM
IP: dialin-1311-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

I didn't post when I normally do yesterday because my dad and I got into an argument.

Imzadi - You grumble about me sending your check, and then you take a few days to cash it. Of course, that explains why my bank balance seems large.

I spent two hours yesterday trying to help my brother put windows 95 on a PC. I suspect he didn't have everything he needed. Too bad that PC can't handle the windows millenium edition or I could have helped me brother out a lot.

I found my nephew nearly got expelled for legitimate sexual harassment. Frankly, my brother and his wife were unsure were he heard that expression from (he's not even in 3rd grade yet). They are naturally concerned (same religious beliefs I have). Did I my mention my nephew is legitimately hyperactive? He gets up and is supercharged with energy. I asked my brother if I ever was that way, and he said no.

I wouldn't midn a war between the s8 and the TGS cr as long as our villains could participate. Yep, we'd start the battle with the cr villains present and I'd transport us from the battle field to let the TGS cr villains wear out the opposition.

Don't ever say Majado(a) around hispanics. It translates 'wetback'.

Time - I like that definition of a true liberal.

Oh yea, one more thing: the odds of me being online at night to chat are slim unless it's past 11:00pm CST. If it's before 10:00pm CST, odds are I am checking messages and responding to them.

Oh yea, I've been getting spam from this person who does not leave a from email address and I can't block that address. Any suggestions?

oh yea, here's a nice warning from yahoo:

In the last couple of days, some groups have lost access to their message archives and group data. If you cannot currently access your group's message archive and other data, please be patient. The data is not lost. Most should be fixed by around 20:00 GMT Wed Nov 7th. If after that you are still experiencing problems, let me know.

Thanks
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 12:00:28 PM
IP: max1-66.cwy.cei.net

Josh <<since Mooncat unrealistically pointed out that women never get tired.>>

Actually Josh, I pointed out that a single woman would not exhaust herself mating with multiple partners during the same sexual encounter the way a guy would. A guy would physically exhaust his ability to produce sperm during the encounter before he could mate all his females during the encounter.

And if you repeated this same multiple mating sequence many times a day, or evem many times a week, multiple mates included EACH and every time, a woman is physically more able to to receive sperm multiple times during an encounter, for multiple encounters, than a man is able to produce and deliver sperm to multiple partners during an encounter, for multiple times.

A think a woman would get tired, but I think a man would be incapacitated from such a schedule. No matter what a horny stud he *thinks* he is.

Mooncat: <<an organic experience>> <<Josh: What exactly IS an organic experience?>> -- Ah, your problem with relating to female satisfaction suddenly comes (or doesn't) clear.

An organic experience is the opposite of an artificial or mechanical experience. Buy some shampoo, maybe it will help with your research.

<<They do alright together>>: Your freakish friends are the exception, not the rule.>> Everyone is the exception of some rule. If you are Joe Normal, congrats. But whatever long term relationships conscenting adults can get to work for them, I say more power to them.

<<Mooncat: Where can I find these 8 billion stories>><<Josh: I'm sure what's his name that's got the "brooklyn saga" up there right now could spit them out like wildfire. >>

Well, I peeked, but all I saw in his fic was Brooklyn doing the wild thing with Angela. I didn't even see any Demona refs. Could you tell me which of his stories are about Demona?

Can never have too much Demona *^_~*

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 12:00:13 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Howdy all,
It's hump day and like everyone else, have stuff to say on Angel, Buffy and all else. First the old business.

Reproduction debate> One thing to consider about fertility and reproduction that it isn't just whose egg gets fertilized but also who rears the child. Individuals, men and women are capable of rearing a child alone, but couples or groups are easier at sharing the load. This isn't just during pregnancy but the length of the children's development. Also keep in mind that it is very recent that it is acceptable and common to raise children that aren't your own. The past few decades compared to the 4000-5000 years of civilization. This is just to illustrate the stakes taken with infidelity. Until recently infidelity in woman resulted in shunning. Infidelity in men wasn't as severe, but they didn't get off scot-free. In the natural world, yeah it makes sense and is even advantagous for individuals to seek as many partners as possible. But for most birds and mammals fertilization isn't the end of the story. Building the nest, hunting and gathering, teaching survival skills is not a one-person job. And both partners are involved only if it is their child they are raising. In nature it is counter-survival to raise offspring that aren't your own. Infidelity has a beneifit, but it comes at price and a risk.

Patrick> Funny site, speaking as an ME now-turned COM I can relate. And just as Cal Poly finished their new Engineering Building. *pout*

Angel & Buffy> Before the spoilers just a general question. Has anyone else noticed that both shows seesaw in quality? When one really is great, the other is so-so, mostly good, but missing that oomph that would make it great.

* * * Spoilers Beware! Spoilers Beware! * * *

Angel
Grade: B -

The Good: Wesley telling Angel not to raise his voice at Fred. Cordy telling Angel she loves him followed by everyone else. The Angel groupies: Tell me where I can get a set of groupies. (Hmmm... Rahsaaaan!) That's what I'm talking about.

The Bad: Darla saving Angel in Rome. It was the first question that popped in my head. What's save-my-own-skin Darla doing rescuing her stallion? Vampire Hunter Holtz. So he's in LA and looking to take out Angel. Sorry fella, the line goes around the block starting with Darla, Dru and Wolfram & Hart. I like the flashbacks, but to paraphrase Tina Turner 'We don't need another villain!' Finally, puppy-dog Angel. If the choice is between Angel brooding or Angel acting goofy around girls he likes. I'll take brooding with a heavy dollop of angst thrown in.

The Confused: A lot of logic holes. Stuff no one thought to clue us in to. Why was Cordy upset Angel lied? Given past history, I'd be relieved Angel wasn't evil and been toying with us all this time. How do they know Darla's craving innocent blood? Darla's been pretty consistant in her tastes: everyone. How do they know the kid has a soul? Because it's kicking? Souls aren't exactly something you can find on a sonagram.

Overall: It played things fast and loose. I just hope it is set up for some good stuff further down the line.

Buffy:
Grade A -

Good: The lyrics of the songs and their placement. Tara and Giles excellant. Tara discovering the Lethe's bramble. You know that's going to come back to haunt Willow. The Music Man demon. I liked the jazz. Props to Joss for playing to the cast's strengths and slipping the writers into cameos.

The Bad:
Xander invoked the demon? Just a big question mark over my head. After all the trouble they've had with demons and the like, who among the Scoobies would think invoke one would be a good idea. This story does fall into the PWP? category. (Plot? What plot?)

Contrary to Sevarius Jr. musicals aren't dead. Not after spending last week watching people gush over the Rocky Horror Picture Show. (That is a musical and a cult classic) True you don't have as many musicals as you did in the 40's and 50's, but the same can be said of Westerns, Detective mysteries and half a dozen other genres. It isn't necessarily because they died out, it's just tastes have changed for a time. And I know several girls who love Les Mis or Phantom of the Opera and the guys who date them learn to love or at least tolerate it. Granted a muscial has a classic flaw in the musical cue.

The Ugly: Spike and Buffy kissing. This is a relationship I can do with out. Spike already Buffy-whipped, I don't know if I can stomach them going all mooney eyed. Where is the jeopardy? People tap dancing until they explode doesn't seem to me like a calamity to me. If people exploded after doing the mime stable 'man-trapped-in-a-box' I'd say it was a good thing.

Overall, funny for the songs. Very memorable but not like Hush or the Body. But Sweeps month is just starting so hang on.

* * * Spoilers End Here * * *

See ya later.
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 10:52:44 AM
IP: 24-205-118-23.wc-dyn.charterpipeline.com

:: gives Crzy an official "What, Me Innocent?" t-shirt ::

Mara > Woo! So I guess this means we'll be seeing a lot more of you around here. And I guess everyone better watch out, too... otherwise they'll be punished by being sent into space and made to read bad fanfic. >:)

SJ > I'd like to read those 8 million stories, too.

Josh > Even setting aside the fact that after the first couple days of having sex 3 or 4 times a day, this hypothetical superman is going to deplete his supply of viable sperm, I would assume if his goal is indeed to make lots of babies, he would not be wanting his multiple female partners to be doing anything other than staying fit and well-rested. So in between all the sex, he somehow must find time to do whatever is needed to provide food and shelter and protection for all these mates. And after he proves sucessful, he'd want to do the same for his offspring, as well... since his genetic investment is not assured until the kids reach maturity. So I can't say for sure... but I'd predict he'd be dead from exhaustion within a year or two. Which, come to think of it, is probably why the human species evolved to be generally monogamous.

:: posts a link to Top Ten Reasons to Major in Engineering and gets back to work ::
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 08:06:07 AM
IP: dsl081-009-210.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net

** Niamhgold enters briefly **

Hey, all! Welcome back Winterwolf and Dreamie ;) Glad Dreamie is feeling better; have fun on your jobhunt! :)

Maybe a longer post later from animation class :) Until then, Adios all!
Niamhgold
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 07:27:14 AM
IP: 206.41.204.140

**Winterwolf and Dreamie squish Aingeal with huggles**

Lynati> Yay mail! Thanks. ^_^

Josh> <<<but how much do they need to eat to survive>>: "The equivalent of three cows a day" - Anton Sevarius.> Oh but you aren't factoring in the offset of stone sleep. Which Sevarius excluded in his rough calculation. Though it seemed Broadway ate about that much when they focused on him eating. ;) <school> Blah. Hey just think at least there's a three day weekend in sight. :D

We'll post more later. Stay tuned.

**Dreamie is picked up by Winterwolf and he hurries out**
Dreamie and Winterwolf
Seattle, WA
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 05:41:34 AM
IP: acb7d5e7.ipt.aol.com

Hiya.

I'm tired of this school garbage. It needs to be over. Soon. Not "42 days" soon. "Now" soon.

I went to two different reviews for my MechE midterm on thursday, I'll be at another one tomorrow, and I spent most of tonight studying since i have no other work to do. And there's no way on Earth that I'd spend any part of tonight watching the cast of Buffy sing. Now, if they were showing a "female characters wear no clothing" epsiode, there'd be no way I'd study. But this just don't catch my eye.

And as if the arguments in here weren't enough...my lab is on friction too.

I am so glad that i missed that stupid buffy musical. My mom called me up and asked me if I knew that it was happening, then covered it up as "just wanting to make sure I was aware of the world around me"...as if the TV counts.

The guys downstairs finally got their wireless bridge, so we're back to running two separate wireless networks. When we want files, we just switch networks and gank files. When one of our connections dies temporarily (silly PacBell), we just switch to the other network and have a fully useable connection. I love airport! It rocks.

But the best part is when I take the iBook downstairs, jack the post from my tower, work on it, and listen to mp3's that are wirelessly streamed from my friend's tower.

Just to brag.

Patrick: <<to try taking nine knives, a stun gun, and a can of mace through security>>: Fool. <<And the same guy could also go nine months without sucessfully fatheing a single child>>: That is HIGHLY unlikely. <<he is only making the attempt with each female once every twelve days>>: Who said that he waits twelve days between having sex? <<unless he's superhuman like Captain Kirk, he's biologically exhausting himself making the attempts>>: Are you telling me that a normal guy can't have sex at least 3-4 times per day? Lets assume for a second that he's not expending energy pleasing his female(s), even though the chances of conception are slightly higher if he does please his girls, the chances of conception are zero if he tires himself out completely. Assuming that, he should be able to go AT LEAST 3-4 times per day. That leaves several hours to nap, smoke a cigarette, and make himself a sandwich. Now, if he's 17 or 18, he should be able to go more times than that per day. Even if he only has sex ONCE per day, are you telling me that he'll physically exhaust himself!? I'm sorry, but based on my *own* experiences I refuse to believe that. And I'm not even in that great shape. <<You never achieve peak performance if you have to play six innings every single night of the week>>: The REASON for that is that their arms get tired and they are non functional. After a full night of sleep, if you can't have sex for at least ONE hour, you're anemic. <<the single female with the twelve males has a well-rested male every night, so statistically she is assured of not missing the fertile period>>: Why is she only having sex once per night? If this is a conception experiment, she should be having sex until she gets pregnant, since Mooncat unrealistically pointed out that women never get tired. Lets lowball it and assume that the male only has sex once per two nights without exhausting himself. Unrealistic in my age group, but that's irrelevant. In 9 months, your single female is pregnant ONCE. There's a 1/100 chance that she has twins...lets call the chances that she has more than that negligible, since its not really important. At once every two days, the male is virtually guaranteed to catch his females (assume there's two of them for now) during their "fertile time" if it lasts 2 or 3 days. Now do you really think that with a harem of women, in a 9 month period, having sex every two days, he wouldn't get at least 2 pregnant?

And if you do: JUST GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO TRY ;-)

More for patrick: <<do they still sell those t-shirts to the civil engineering students that they sold when I was in college>>: Haven't seen one. But if they *do* sell them, I'll find it. If you find it, let me know where to mail the check. <<Top ten reasons to be a civil engineer>>: We're experts in fluids, dynamics, banging, heat transfer, orifices...we can make things stiffer just by changing E...we can build it stronger, faster, longer, harder, deeper, NOW ;-) <<Cubicle Man!>>: That is NOT a reason to be a civil engineer.

Jan: <<Cindy: ohhh! well that's good>>: LOL! <<How stupid is this?>>: Ugh, marketing. An engineer's nightmare.

Nukes: <<its not like people fail all the time like they do at your school>>: You missed my point COMPLETELY. My point was that you can be in all AP courses, and even do well on the test. No one in either of my Calculus AP courses got below a 4. And everyone passed US History. The POINT, Mr. "I go to the best public school system in the country" (just for the record, I went to one of the best private schools in LA, if you want to compare meaningless garbage like this), is that just because you have what it takes to get perfect scores on ALL the AP exams doesn't mean you have a shred of "street smarts", a.k.a. real life brains.

Metaldemon: <<A wet-back is anyone who is a legal or illegal immigrant from any country south of America>>: Ah, thanks, I didn't know that. Still, it doesn't have the same ring as some of the other racial slang I've heard. But then again I'm not the one its used against, so I guess my opinion isn't appropriate.

Greg X: <<my father (who's supposed to pay it) is being a real asshole>>: Kick him in the nuts. Dot com! <<let's all remember who the real enemy is>>: Windows users? <<Those people over in S8 that hate us>>: Kill them all!

Terrky: <<but how much do they need to eat to survive>>: "The equivalent of three cows a day" - Anton Sevarius. <<people are getting way off TGS>>: TGS hasn't been updated in a long time. Should we just go away and not speak to each other because of the writing schedules? If we did, we'd be just as lame as the people in S8. We have lives, we're friends, we discuss them. <<why can't we all just... get along?>>: Because we're not all the same person.

Lynati: <<anyone in college want to come on a nifty summer program that tours eastern europe for a couple weeks?>>: Eastern Europe!? But all the hot chicks are in Italy! (that's a no thanks ;-)) <<A big tree would suffice; they are light enough>>: Not during the day. <>: Poor Zafiro...he has to climb a tree without the benefit of feet. <<I’ll add “savant” onto the end of your current title>>: Don't flatter him. <>: You are missing out. Its great fun. <<Reaming you will be a pleasant exercise in inanity>>: But not a very pretty picture.

Queen of Pain; <<this it to prevent bruises and scrapes>>: Right. Of course you are. <<Smell this shoe>>: That got a little annoying. I wanted to beat that woman with that shoe. <<If I was that woman’s daughter I wouldn’t tell her ANYTHING about what happens in school>>: Some students actually think that if their parents harass their teachers they will somehow get better grades. <<Has anyone ever been a fake one>>: Yeah. <<Any dessert that doesn’t have chocolate is a pointless dessert.>>: That's right

FS: <<what ever became of Ebonics>>: You don't watch Boston Public, do you? <<The better part of 12 years ago>>: Which I believe was the last time it didn't suck. <<Doughnut world>>: mmmm...doughnuts... <<they don't need to use power to stay afloat>>: Well without a built-in powerplant, that thing would have to come down every few days. Which isn't unreasonable. I mean, we've only seen it in the air for 22 minutes at a time ;-) <<jock-itch powder>>: Bet yet, replace their jock-itch powder entirely. <<more of a pressure point>>: Oh, that one doesn't count. They wake up again. <<she will need a spanking>>: Yes yes! And then the oral sex! ;-) <<other world domination people>>: But none of them have offered you a country. <<If cars=approaching, then DON'T GO IN THE STREET!>>: No, bad psuedocode. Try:

for i=1:end of time interval
if carposition(i) - myposition(i) > carposition (i+1) - myposition(i+1)
myposition = 0
else
myposition = widthofstreet
end
end

FS: <<*shrug*>>: THE SIGN YOU MORON! <>: Um, cables get more flexible with length. <<a light weight-yet strong epoxy>>: But now we start getting into semantics. Does it count for breaking the curse if only the "shell" of the castle is lifted above the clouds?

Erin: <<A/S everyone>>: what is this, a chat room!?

Mooncat: <<an organic experience>>: What exactly IS an organic experience? <<They do alright together>>: Your freakish friends are the exception, not the rule. Humans are inherently jealous. <<Where can I find these 8 billion stories>>: I'm sure what's his name that's got the "brooklyn saga" up there right now could spit them out like wildfire.

SJ: <<done everything except offering oral favors to convince the electorate that he's really a conservative>>: I thought real conservatives don't like oral favors. "A woman who has sex in only one position...and doesn't enjoy it" - from Son of the Beach. <<also because me being an unofficial member of the Evil Party, I had to represent>>: Preach it Brotha! <<I've heard that Bloomberg enjoys eating fetuses with his breakfast omelet and wants to change the name of New York into Fart Town, and that Green hates the blacks and latins and wants to smother children with ether rags while turning Yankee Stadium into a Taliban training camp>>: Talk about a rock and a hard place. <<Oh my God, I just realized there's a fourteen year old girl in the room>>: Please don't hit on her. That is reserved for my friend Mike. ;-) <<NEVER except candy from me>>: Accept my candy... <<Insert Tab A into Slot B>>: A minute to learn. A lifetime to master. No, wait, that's Othello. <<That's how sex was explained to me. You?>>: I don't remember, but apparently my reaction was a skewed face and "Ewwww!" <<A war between the TGS CR and the S8 CR would be like the USA vs. Afghanistan>>: That would be fun. We'd need a battleground. <<a cop's boot firmly up your ass>>: Ooh that would hurt. <<does this mean I now officially qualify as a narcotic>>: No, only that you're just as entertaining. <<hop the fence and you hire them to cut your lawn the next spring>>: LOL. That explains my lawn. <<there IS a certain humor to be found in the handicapped>>: Agreed. <<Only in women's minds can they have multiple boyfriends and everything be peachy keen>>: So true. Silly women. <<It helps if they're already drugged>>: No, we want them to NOT be tired. It makes sex more entertaining...when its consensual. <there's a probability of 1.00 that I hated it.>>: It would have been funnier if you'd said 1.2. <<the only thing more embarrassing than releasing prematurely onto your date's prom dress is explaining to her what you were doing in her closet in the first place>>: I wouldn't know, that didn't happen. What happend to much was much, much worse. <<Compared to Berkeley, bigotry is a rather enticing alternative>>: Berkeley IS bigotry. <<Cause we're both the evil one>>: We're going as each other for the masquerade ;-) <<some black people throw that around like a pleasantry>>: None of them educated.

Shinigami: <<Now I am>>: How come you get to be one!? I mean, aside from the fact that you're sleeping with the other co-admin? <<All your asses are now belong to me>>: mine doesn't take up much space. <<Obey me and you can have everything that you want>>: You can't give me everything that i want.

Terrky: <<ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US>>: Groan.

CrzyDemona: <<whistles OH SO INNOCENTLY>>: Stop it, you're making Greg jealous. <<Finally an admin to end all admins>>: That wouldn't be as funny if Aaron and Mara weren't involved.

Gside: <<multiple tiny posts start to annoy people>>: Its amazing that no one ever picks up on that. <<They always found their way on the female characters>>: As a rollerblader, I can assure you they have no other use. <<mine are already iced>>: How's that working for you during the winter? <<the phobia that normal will be redefined to be you>>: That would be cool. Then everyone would try to be like me. Even more than they do now. <<The real one keeps them nearby and likely to keep you happy>>: Hmmm, I shall have to search for it. <>: Nah, that's the Apple Campus. <<it only works on the inner "side.>>: Makes for interesting drives. <<Or logic>>: Some of us have never taken logic. <<I've got my own cheering section>>: Gside Gside he's our man. If he can't do it no one can! ;-) <<Have you ever heard of the theory of multiple inteligences>>: Obviously he isn't in AP Psych. <<That happened a good couple years back>>: Even when TGS is running, I've never seen an all-TGS post. <<unless it's a large ring and a dense core>>: A really big cream-filled doughnut. <<No cat o'nine tales>>: That's not a spanking. That's a flaying. <<37/M, 312lbs>>: LOL!

SOROW: Don't worry about the failed test. Just drop the class and take it again later. You're a freshman, so you should be out partying and sleeping with pathetic juniors who can't get girls their own age. My parents are paying for me to go to school too, and half the time I don't even tell them my grades. You're at school because YOU want to be there. So just enjoy it. << I'm convinced that psychology is just evil and that's it>>: Not necessarily evil, but like all humanities majors simply a total waste of time.

Moochie: Why are you referring to yourself as V? <<Or maybe the young ones just learn well by example>>: Or maybe we're just superior.

Alright, I've studied enough tonight. Thanks, Aingeal, Ravyn, Lynati, Daphne, for inviting me to chat and thoroughly wasting my evening. I enjoyed every minute of it. Thank god my test isn't till thursday.

Nite folks.

To err is human, but to really fuck things up you need a computer.
-PureEvil (TeenChatCenter)

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 03:15:11 AM
IP: adsl-64-170-155-33.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

SJ><> ...Or maybe the young ones just learn well by example.
V
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 02:16:50 AM
IP: 192.133.129.4

*Enters, harmonizing, and looking inordinately pleased*

I forgot to tape Buffy tonight, so I missed it. Oh, well. Other things have been too well for this to worry me.

SOROW: aww. : | <-- (sympathetic smiley) *offers hugs* Good luck with the flu. *sends chamomile vibes*

Winterwolf: Coolies. Thank you. And it’s alright; I was beginning to think you hadn’t noticed that post at all.

Dreamie: and thank you, too. I’ll send it to each addy. Let me know what you think. And feel free to add stuff; it needs additions badly.

Mooncat: ahem before I was...distracted...I had something of a rebuttal. Here it is, more or less.
1) Gargs needing cliff-homes/natural disasters> Who says they have to live on cliffs? A big tree would suffice; they are light enough. Or just a handy nearby boulder. Judging from the size relationship of their arm, feet, and wing muscles, flying is a secondary means of transportation. Look at the Mayan gargs; no cliffs were shown in that area, just stretching rainforest. They had the pyramid, but I bet they lived in that area before the pyramid was built.
2) Poison> ah. A good point. But unless it kills within 18, a garg would turn to stone and heal it. Unless it lived on one of the poles...In which case it;s chance of poisoning go down reaally far. Plus, gargoyles don’t live on either pole...in my ‘verse. Most snakes that are poisonous to kill you before you (hopefully) could get help live only in...what, the Amazon? Maybe Africa? Two-step Charlies, I know, you haven’t a chance. And as no gargs live in Africa (again, in my conception, not neccessarily everyone’s) then only the central American garsg have that issue...and maybe they would adapt to it. Perhaps not. But poison is something I hadn’t taken much into consideration.
3) eggs> during the day they’d be nigh-invulnerable. During the night I imagine the gargs would be guarding them like, well, gargoyles. And day or night, they’d be in a secure location.
<Eggs> Well, there is the odd chance that a female – or the whole clan-could bare a fourth generation. It’s not too common an occurrence, but it does happen. Well, in some universes, anyway.
4)humans> well, in my conception, gargs and humans didn’t evolve alongside. It’s not just the laboratory setting. And humans seem to destroy all natural ecosystems, not just a single species within it. I would think most humans (prior to this era) would be too afraid of gargs to attack them as flesh, and if the gargs were roosting someplace out of human reach (not necessarily a mountain) then they’d be safe.
Final point: of course, most of this, as I mentioned, is just MY conception of the species. They may be different in your “world”; and as we don’t have a “real” species to compare it to, this can never be resolved. It is as if we are discussing two separate sub-species. It’s all open to conjecture. In the case of your idealogy of them, I agree with your points. But for mine, it doesn’t all apply.

Mara: Woo! Does this mean you’ll be posting more? (Oh crap, your first day, and I think I may get you yelling at me. Ee.) Oh. And lain’s site is down. I may take you up on your offer from a while ago to host stuff of mine; if it still stands.

SJ: I stink? *sniff sniff* ee. You are right. I meant to shower two hours ago, but I got sidetracked. But in a good way.

~Happy Rant~
Mikal’s band kicks major buttock. No kidding.
She played a set tonight at our coffee room, and afterwards, there was just this improv with several drums, a piano, a violinist, and a guitar. And vocals. I actually sang. Outloud, no less. And a couple of the other singers, who were both professional music types, said I did fine. We spent an hour at this. I love group improv; the drums always seem to call me. And then I talked to one of the peoples after, and it turns out she is in the Photo/New Media department, so I asked her at random if she new how to plug a VCR into a comp, and she said yes. Started giving me an explanation. So, I may be able to actually do garg music vids within the next year, unless the people who made it screwed up and it lacks a vid capture card. Let us hope it doesn’t. Earlier today, I actually got off my butt and practiced form more. I’m sloppy, but haven’t forgotten anything. (n/a to staff form; I don;t have a staff to practice with at present, and doing it mentally just isn’t the same.)
One of the security people dropped by, and we wound up getting into a short discussion on Martial Arts movies. (they showed “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon” in the ampitheater this weekend. First time I got to see it. Nice S/E, and the fight scenes were wicked nice.)

~Onto the three-ring circus...~

Nukesgo Boom:
< dumb people in ap courses? w/e, maybe where you live but not here>: No, they are everywhere. And I have strong reason to believe that there is definitely at least one in YOUR class, too. and if you “ace” all your exams, let me know. I’ll add “savant” onto the end of your current title.


Ooh. That wasn’t amusing at all. I’m disappointed.
And I’m glad you are finding this fun. But I seriously doubt you will derive half as much pleasure from this as I will, because while this seems to be an every-day lifestyle for you, I rarely let myself indulge in such petty childishness. But Indulge I will, now.

Last night, you insulted me repeatedly, deliberately, then pretended you didn’t know why I was reacting as I did, and acted hurt by it. You KNEW what you were doing. Feigning innocence just further insulted my intelligence.

I know what they say about getting into a battle of wits with those that are unarmed, but I am beginning to seriously think that you haven’t evolved to the point where you have enough of a central nervous system to be “hurt” anyway. And nothing you can do can truly hurt me; your opinion of me now means jack in my mind. Think what you will about my being defensive, or about my lack of defending myself in the past. Maybe I didn;t feel I could hold my own in an insult-contest with some of the others in this room.
Or maybe, I have too high respect for them to act like an immature brat in my dealings with them.
But not with you. Not anymore.
*takes of collar, and puts it somewhere safe*
And I’ll be damned to the Phlegethon before I let a little turd like you think he is boss over me. So come on; commence with insulting me. Or as you called it last night, “Kissing my ass”. Maybe by the time this is through, you’ll have learned to tell the difference between the meanings of the two phrases.

And I don’t think anyone here will agree with you that “*lol*” is the proper response to someone telling you they are miserable because their pet died. As poor a reason for feeling awful as that may seem to some of them. Since you bothered to ask, you should have also bothered to make an appropriate response. Or not responded at all.

So either leave me the F’ alone with your needling, or step. Reaming you will be a pleasant exercise in inanity.

I’m going to bed now. I have to get up early to mop the floors in ceramics. Hopefully, you’ll have replied by the time I get up and check the CR tomorrow, so I will again have amusing thoughts to occupy me for my hour of work-study.

*To bed*
Lynati "no, I DONT talk to all that many people on a regular basis" Kshudra - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 02:05:38 AM
IP: 207.221.70.52

Hey all. I failed ANOTHER test this week and I'm so depressed. My parents say that it's alright and we all get some bad grades in college, but it makes me feel even worse because they're the ones paying for me to go to school. And I don't know, I'm studying really hard and trying to get over the flu. I'm convinced that psychology is just evil and that's it.
SOROW - [allison.abadie@mail.utexas.edu]
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 01:28:00 AM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

Gamma Faction to Distorted Psyche, Gamma Faction to Distorted Psyche, the arrow is loosed. I repeat, the arrow is loosed. Be on the lookout for a white envelope with duct tape.

Erin> <<could I in any way at all use a image of my own>>: Check out the CR Info area at the link on the top. If it's not there, no you cannot. It's a limitation of the program used here, but it makes using the place a bit simpler. Oh, and this place is intended to have less frequent, longer posts from everyone. Ergo multiple tiny posts start to annoy people.

Mooncat> <<Heterosexuals are right now the greatest risk group for AIDS because of casual, unprotected sex. No transfusion needed>>: Well, in a sense, there is a transfusion. Just of different bodily fluids.

Imzadi> <<We all know what knee pads are really for>>: One of the equipable items in Chrono Cross is knee pads. They always found their way on the female characters.
<<And if not...switch to iced undies>>: But mine are already iced.
<>: You get used to it, except for the phobia that normal will be redefined to be you.
<<Ya know, that sounds like a euphamism for something really dirty>>: And it's probably true. As both a euphamism, and that Rutgers has been doing it to it's students.
<<My wallet?>>: No, they leave for that one. The real one keeps them nearby and likely to keep you happy.
<<Excused!? You're expected to>>: I thank you.
<<The entire city of Berkeley would beg to differ>>: I belie the same argument goes as for vegetarians.
<<Nah, it spins too>>: Even so, it only works on the inner "side."
<<Where as the single man can move on to the next female>>: I think I made that point in my next comment.
<<Methinks its been a while since everyone took stat>>: Or logic.
<<You tell her>>: All right, I've got my own cheering section.

NukesGoBoom> <<dumb people in ap courses? w/e, maybe where you live but not here>>: Have you ever heard of the theory of multiple inteligences? It says that someone could be a genius in one area (say physics), and idiotic in others (applying knowledge to everyday situations).

Terrky> <<people are getting way off TGS>>: That happened a good couple years back.

Fire Storm> <<Fill leet, with \/\/ and such>>: Yes, that gets difficult. And I'll read that a full, not fill.
<<Now... all someone needs to do is figure out how gravity would work>>: I think it has to be magic, unless it's a large ring and a dense core.
<<Thats her! Seen her around?>>: Sorry, no. Maybe I'll check Douglas.
<<she will need a spanking>>: No cat o'nine tales?

Erin> <<Just wondering A/S every one? 14/F>>: To translate: 37/M, 312lbs. Joking though. If you stick around long enough, you can make pretty good guesses.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 12:56:01 AM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

Mooncat - <<Yeah, I know a few girls who have more than one boyfriend (or girlfriend) who do know about each other. They do alright together.>> ::whistles OH SO INNOCENTLY::

Mara - OH YEAH! Finally an admin to end all admins! Kick some tail girl!!
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 12:41:03 AM
IP: 1cust136.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!!!!

sorry, just had to do that

-={Terrky}=-
Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 12:14:15 AM
IP: a020-0733.kscy.splitrock.net

SJ -- <<What do they call women with multiple boyfriends again?>> -- happy? Yeah, I know a few girls who have more than one boyfriend (or girlfriend) who do know about each other. They do alright together.

<<What? Demona, portrayed as a lesbian? Fascinating concept.
Someone should do that. Oh wait, they did. About 8 billion times.>>

Cool. Where can I find these 8 billion stories? I've already read Madame Destine's stories, and Donald Flemming, and Christine, but besides their work I've only seen maybe two other authors do these kind of stories with Demona, out of the hundreds of authors/fics on the GFW. So if you have a line on more, please fork over the URLS.

Mooncat
>^,,^<

"I have a theory, it may be bunnies..." ~Anya
Mooncat
Wednesday, November 7, 2001 12:00:54 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

*walks in, wearing full black ensemble reminscent of the Peacekeepers from Farscape*

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

As you may or may not be aware of, Lain has decided not to be a co-admin anymore. Well, that's all well and good except for one thing,

Now I am.

All your asses are now belong to me. So, sit back, relax and make sure your head is at the correct angle for the screaming.

(oh yeah, I am Bad Cop.)

"Obey me and you can have everything that you want. Fea me, love me, do as I say, and I will be your co-admin."
corrupted from Labyrinth.
Shinigami
Your City, Your State, United Stated of who gives a Sh1t.
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 11:47:28 PM
IP: ac953754.ipt.aol.com

Well, today is / was Election day. Kind of a slow year this time around….not much up for grabs. There were governor races in New Jersey, and right here in my backyard, Virginia, where Mark Warner, who is a Democrat yet has done everything except offering oral favors to convince the electorate that he's really a conservative, is fighting against Mark Earley, the current Lt. Governor, and a Republican. I voted for Earley, because Warner seems like too much like a rich boy buying his way into the office, and also because me being an unofficial member of the Evil Party, I had to represent.

You New York folks have a tough time, choosing between Mike Bloomberg and Mark Green. I've heard that Bloomberg enjoys eating fetuses with his breakfast omelet and wants to change the name of New York into Fart Town, and that Green hates the blacks and latins and wants to smother children with ether rags while turning Yankee Stadium into a Taliban training camp. Well, that's what the ads have told me. I guess the race has been pretty vicious these past few days.

My personal feelings? New York is screwed, because they won't have Guiliani anymore. You can talk all you want about how you like or dislike him, but I personally think he's a better man for the job itself than either Bloomberg or Green. But hey, Rudy helped put those term limits in there, so them's the breaks.

Oh my God, I just realized there's a fourteen year old girl in the room (yes, I DO have a radar for these things). Hi, I'm SJ, also known as the bad uncle of the CR. NEVER except candy from me.

Reproduction debate: Insert Tab A into Slot B. Repeat process with varying degrees of speed. 9 months later, either a stork drops off a quivering bundle of drool and feces or you find it in a cabbage patch, depending upon your religion.
That's how sex was explained to me. You?

Lynati / NukesGoBoom: I submit this as proof, your honor, that there can be a flame war not involving myself.

Greg: <<yes, I'm a smartass also ;)>> An amateur compared to me! People who brag that they are smartasses are so GAY. Oh wait….<<let's all remember who the real enemy is. Those people over in S8 that hate us>> A war between the TGS CR and the S8 CR would be like the USA vs. Afghanistan. I'm ready to drop a daisycutter on 'em.

NukesGoBoom: <<THANK YOU!>> You're welcome. <<the one thing that i have noticed about you is that you have an incredible ability to express what you think in humor.>> I like to think I'm irreverent, which is more like a tiny step from admitting that I'm just a huge prick. <<from now on I let you do the talking>> Okay. Lynati, you stink! ;)

DPH: Pretending to mail Anthrax MIGHT have been funny before the 11th. Maybe that would have been a good pratical joke to pull on someone you didn't particularly care for.
Now, though, it'll probably get you arrested and a cop's boot firmly up your ass.
So, be creative, and use a humorous alternative. For example: Send someone a CD by the group Anthrax. See? You could say, "Hey, I'm sending you Anthrax." And you'd be golden.
And a good time was had by all!

Josh: <<But I won't be able to read SJ's rants! ::taps vein frantically:: Must have TGS CR!>> Hey, does this mean I now officially qualify as a narcotic? I'm flattered! <<sanity jar?>>: I broke it.>> It really existed? <<wet back>>: I'm sorry, what does that mean? I'm bad with derrogatory slang>> It's never used that accurately. Most times, they sneak in using rafts. Or they just hop the fence and you hire them to cut your lawn the next spring. *looks around* What? Where did everyone go? <<And yes, I do think its reasonable to imply that the physically handicapped are "defective">> I will get crucified for it, but come on: all of you have to admit that there IS a certain humor to be found in the handicapped. Ever hear "Special Olympics" by Stephen Lynch? <<The only way you'd believe that is if you'd never had multiple boyfriends at once THAT WERE AWARE OF EACH OTHER.>> Only in women's minds can they have multiple boyfriends and everything be peachy keen. It doesn't work in practice. What do they call women with multiple boyfriends again? Oh yeah - whores. Ha ha, I'm only joking. Maybe. <<You really live in the anti-fantasy world where women never get tired?>> It helps if they're already drugged. <<Actually no. you should go take statistics again.>> I took statistics. And there's a probability of 1.00 that I hated it. <<Cuz that one hasn't been done to death.>> What? Demona, portrayed as a lesbian? Fascinating concept. Someone should do that. Oh wait, they did. About 8 billion times. <<Every time I talk to one of my ex's I wonder two things: 1) what the devil was I thinking and 2) can I shoot myself now and put them out of my misery?>> Those are always awkward conversations. You either don't have much to say, or focus upon the very things that led to the break up of the relationship. It's like that old joke: the only thing more embarrassing than releasing prematurely onto your date's prom dress is explaining to her what you were doing in her closet in the first place. <<If you paid attention to the
world around you, I'm sure you could figure out that many people would find that offensive.>> I would pay attention, and that's exactly why I would use it if I were in his place. <<Gunjack was so wrong.>> I can't touch that one. <<I'm always involved in debates and there are many people in here that I respect a great deal. No, not everyone, but who does respect everyone?>> That about sums up me as well. Only substitute debates with "flame wars". <<No one wants to read every other thought that pops into your head.>> Uh oh. There goes my whole schtick. <> Now you're just acting like a Christian, you Caucasian. <<Come to Berkeley.>> Compared to Berkeley, bigotry is a rather enticing alternative. <<How do you stand on the opinion of your clone?>> Quite well, actually. It works out, I think, because with us, there is no real distinction between which one is the good clone, or the evil one. Cause we're both the evil one! <> I think it should be used to describe something gay. Like, when I say that the Buffy Musical is gay, I don't mean it's stupid (although it is), I mean it's just very, very, VERY homosexual. Which isn't really a bad thing, honestly. Chant with me folks: "Not as if there's anything wrong with that." <> I'll never understand that one. Decades, if not centuries, of racism and oppression all wrapped up into one word, and some black people throw that around like a pleasantry. <> I did set myself up for that one.

Gays hiding AIDS: This sounds like one of them crazy urban legend / conspiracy theories.
Wait - you mean it's NOT just a gay disease?
We're here, we're queer, we're fabulous, get used to it. Lookie, I see Rob Halford riding on a Harley!

***BUFFY SPOILERS***

I laughed, I cried, I hung my head in shame.

Tonight was the TV event of the season - the Buffy musical. In the immortal words of Mr. Tony Soprano, "This seems *very* gay."

See? Nice call back to recent discussions.

Well, I must say….what the HELL was that? Just one big clusterf!ck of dance numbers, bad choreography, and painful songs. I'm sorry, you can argue that some of them have good voices, but the only ones of the whole lot who I thought had any reasonable singing ability were the demon (but I ain't into that whole jazz sound he was pulling off) and Spike. Spike wasn't too bad. He didn't stink up the joint like the rest. Then again, as you may or may not know, Spike is one of those actors who also feels the need to be a rock star, so he sort of has his own little band thing going on. Thus, he gets some practice.

Let me begin by pondering the existence of the genre of the musical. This medium was made popular back in the 40s and 50s, and even experienced some success in the 60s with Elvis, in his endless beach-bunny movies that were horrible and made no sense, unless the real point of them was to a) get Elvis laid or b) get Elvis high, in which case, they were smashing successes. He was popping barbiturates and romancing teenage girls in white cotton panties left and right. Then of course you have one of the most popuplar musicals of all time, the RHPS. However, as time has gone by, the musical has diminished in modern culture. Probably thanks in part to the magic of television, MTV in particular, who of course doesn't play music videos anymore but did once. I suppose that the videos supplied our culture with all of the musical we wanted. Thus, the genre of musical is all but dead, or at least on life support. And I'm not crying for it. Outside of Disney films, the musical is a rare beast indeed, and frankly I haven't enjoyed one since Oliver and Company. Probably because I enjoyed hearing Cheech Marin sing, but I digress. So, I don't understand where Joss was coming from with this one. Obviously, he wanted to do something innovative, and probably experimental, but I just do NOT understand the logic behind the move. I love music. I love films / TV. I can honestly say that in my wildest lunatic hallucinations of being a TV / film director, have I ever considered doing a musical. I mean, why? I don't get the point. Maybe it's because I never have.

If there was a story here, I wasn't following it. I was just watching, mouth agape, at the train wreck. This is the type of episode that would have made the MST3K crew cream themselves. I think it involved Dawn being kidnapped for some reason by some demon or something, and everyone was dancing, etc. I don't know, I lost track. Kudos, though, for putting Emma Caulfield in that nice little red number. You kept my attention for a good five minutes, boys.

The Who's Tommy it was not.
*****END SPOILERS****

See them run,
See them fall,
See them try to catch a ball,
Olympics…..
The Special Olympics…..

See them laugh,
See them drool,
See them fall into the pool
That's….diving.
At the Special Olympics…..

And I know full well,
That I will burn in hell
But-those-guys-playing-wheelchair-basketball-have-got-to-be-the-funniest-freaking-thing-I've-ever-seen-in-my-life….
At the Special Olympics….

-- "Special Olympics", Stephen Lynch

Sevarius "Tommy can you hear me?" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 11:20:37 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

Buffy Spoilers ---
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Oooooh! Ah! "Once More With Feeling" was an organic experience *^_^* -- I had to wait (impatiently) through Roswell so I could rewind my tape and watch it again!!!

Spike and Buffy !!!! Yum !!!!

Oooooo!!! and even the preview of next week's episode was fantabulous with Giles and Anya making with the... ahem... Yes, much as I love Anya and Xander, Anya and Giles is very yum too.

Tara's actress has a fantastic voice. the Giles/Tara overlay was fantastic, when they look at Buffy/Willow ... eee!!!!

My only disappointment was no Dawn song, even if the dance number was nice. I hated the dress they gave her. I would have preferred something like the dress out of Legend, or Labyrinth... sigh. The ultra cool dark princess/goblin princess gowns. That would have been perfect.

Love the special effects on the Buffy episodes lately, very smooth and magical.

Loved this episode so very, very much... sigh... purrrr...

Mooncat
>^,,^<
"I have a theory, it may be bunnies..." ~Anya
"Spread beneath my Willow tree..." ~Tara
"I touch the fire and it freezes me..." ~Buffy
Mooncat
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 11:13:59 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

::pounces on Winterwolf:: HEY!!!! you two need to come in IM when i'm there so i can bother y'all!.... I'm glad you're doing ok.. keep in touch... ::huggles you both::
Aingeal
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 10:46:07 PM
IP: 207.42.162.195

BUFFY & ANGEL COMMENTS:
###SPOILERS#####
"Once more with Feeling": LOVE IT! Only Joss could take a typical musical scenario and turn it into this.

Buffy's opening lament was rather reminicent of the opening scene from "Beauty and The Beast". "I've got a theory" was definitely the weirdest number with Anya jumping into the punk mode to scream about bunnies. The best number by far had to have been Spike's "Rest In Peace".

Best non-song comment had to have been from Buffy "Dawn's in trouble, it must be Tuesday"

Intereting that they found a way to incorporate all of the recent story elemnts into the songs, including Buffy finally revealing to everyone that she'd been pulled out of heaven. I liked the reprise version of Giles' and Tara's songs combined into a duet, typical motif in musicals.

Still, Joss always pulls out something for sweeps and once again he pulled it off quite well...

ANGEL:
My comment on Angel has more to do with that prophecy. They keep saying that there is some room for interpretaion on those scrolls, that it says that the vampire with a soul will both die and live. They take it to mean Angel will regain his humanity. But couldn't also be interpreted differently now that Angel jr is on his(or her) way? Could it be that he could die and his child would one day take up the mantle of Champion? A sort of "The King is Dead, Long Live The King" situation don't you think?

Skippy The Klingon
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 10:44:45 PM
IP: ppp61.tele-base.net

yo all Just wondering A/S every one?

14/F
Erin - [naturegrl@charter.net]
Wis
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 08:16:28 PM
IP: 24-196-121-174.fdl.wi.charter.com

**Winterwolf peeks into the CR**

Hi! I'm taking a break for the moment from my job hunt. I want to thank everyone that wished Dreamie well back when she had strep throat. A few days after I mentioned it she made a full recovery. I was lucky not to get it at all...

Lynati> Sorry to keep you waiting on that email address. You can send it to awinterwolf@excite.com or dreamie09@aol.com or both for the absolutely fastest response. Hope to hear from you soon. ;)

Happy Belated Birthday Spacebabie and many more!

Welcome to the CR Erin.

Reproduction topic> I've just skimmed though this topic but will comment anyway. As I see it if a man fertilizes the same woman for her cycle then goes for the next woman his chances are on par with the woman with the multiple partners. After all sperm generally isn't out of the woman's system in one day. Now repeating that should produce promising results.

Well it's time for me to go now. I'm sure I missed a ton of other things to comment on but it has to wait for another time.

Dreamie> **snuggle kiss nuzzle cuddle** I'm on my way my love. ^_^

**Winterwolf goes off to pick up Dreamie**

Winterwolf - [awinterwolf@excite.com]
Seattle, WA
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 06:27:20 PM
IP: acb42bce.ipt.aol.com

Speeking of Leet, what ever became of Ebonics?

Gside: <I've been enjoying the antagonism between Alex Trebek and Sean Connery. "Come on, you pansy, let the

people see my work">
I can't remember the last time I actually watched an episode of Saturday Night Live. I can only remember

watching it once on a Saturday, though. (The better part of 12 years ago)
<Depends on which dialect it is. Some are passable.>
Fill leet, with \/\/ and such. COMPLETE paragraphs of it.

Oh, me too. Maybe even the animators of Pokemon made it in some spare time.
<Sorry, but that's a bit hard to digitize, and would probably take up large amounts of space if you want the

plum to taste anything like the real thing.>
Ach, 'twas only a SImpsons reference anyway.
<And like most RPG worlds>
Hmm... forget Ringworld and Diskworld, Doughnut world!
(Now... all someone needs to do is figure out how gravity would work...)
<Missed it on friday. And forgot to check back later>
It changed twice!
<With the light brown hair?>
Yeah! Thats her! Seen her around?
I knew I shouldn't have taken the my glass bottles in for recycling...

Imzadi: <What's wrong with your jaw?>
Ah, some stupid muscle problem.
<That's terrible>
I know... Hmm... I need to find a copy of that somewhere (There has GOT to be one somewhere), then tie Wilek

down and make him watch it.
<How about Bill Gates?>
He had his removed so long ago.
<Sometimes. When trying to accomplish the latter, you *should* be interested in the former>
Very true. The former helps the latter.
<Nah, just keep doing what you're doing until it runs out, then order new ones>
But 1.5 million packages?!?!
<what does FYF mean?>
It means everything... and nothing.

But they are in WATER. At LEAST a couple times more dense. And they don't need to use power to stay afloat.
<Will you stop dawdling already and make one?>
After the power armor, I will be working on the prerequisite tech for it.
<Is that LM's real name?>
Nope. Rebecca ;) (Inside joke)
<Despite not being able to penetrate skin, they blow up rocks real good!>
True... and rocks can hurt!
<Skin should be too>
Yeah... or full of SCABS!
<Anthrax in place of the field lines>
Hmm... no, they know about that...
Mix it in with their black paint and jock-itch powder!
<Women have off switches!?>
I have been trying to find LM's for quite some time. And I found it isn't a switch, but more of a pressure

point.

I prefer not to hide my junk. I leave it out in the open.
<A few hours late, dude.>
Well, it was more of a time check than anything.

Ah good. Her explination was confusing enough to not warrant serious punishment.
Still, she will need a spanking.
<Then he's fired. I have no time for engineers who don't engineer>
I am fired? Hmm...
Well, there is always the other world domination people...

Spike: <The carpal tunnel is chronic and comes and goes>
Sucks...
I miss your writing and art.
<At the moment, unfortunately, my CTS has been aggravated from having to jerk my 6-year-old back onto the curb>
OW! He needs to be reprogrammed!
If cars=approaching, then DON'T GO IN THE STREET!

Spacebabie: <Dude if anyone ever does that I will personally hunt them down and force them to kiss Janet Reno>
Hmm...

Lynati: <My god, if we pull it off at the next G, she's gonna die>
Be afraid. Be VERY afraid...

Jan: 
Mine locks up every so often, and if it cracks (it sounds like it often), it sounds like there is a popping sponge in my ear for the next hour.
The worst part of it is my jar feels spring loaded and whenever I try eating a rather large sandwitch, it can start to REALLY hurt.
Not to mention that dental work can REALLY hurt (keeping my mouth open)
My only comfort is that knowing I have a MILD case.

Jaden: <New episodes?! Are you joking or did I totally miss something important?>
YOu missed something totally important! ;)
Kidding!

Aaron: <This is the gayest comment room ever. C'mon Silent Bob, let's go>
*shrug*

Yooper: <A crane. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't castles built using rudimentary derricks? That means that the blocks are light enough to just put them on a truck, drive them to the site, and hoist them up with modern equipmen>
MAYBE... but I can't see how a cable that long could be made to be flexable enough to use.

That is a cool idea...
You know... maybe alot of the bricks were hollowed out and filled with a light weight-yet strong epoxy.

Erin: <I'm just wondering you know this image thing could I in any way at all use a image of my own to put there insted of the one I have there now??>
Nope.
Sorry.

At the tone, the time is 11/06/2001, 15:28:00 EDT
Fire Storm - [<--- this Gay game is Something Awful!]
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 12:57:04 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Hey all how is it going? Not much here cept I’m not getting enough sleep. Its getting cold again and hopefully the cold will keep Michelle (No not me I spell my name with one L” I am talking about the hurricane) away.

***********************BRIEF ANGEL SPOILERS********************************
Glad to see Lorne is getting is place fixed up and I like seeing the Trio again “Hmmmm Angel” Liked Cordelia’s reaction to Darla’s pregnancy and the baby isn’t evil it has a soul and a heartbeat(does that mean its human?) ans the evil is going to be Holtz

**********************SPOILERS END******************************************

Josh<<<Yeah sure. We all know what knee pads are really for.>>>Trust me I’m not trying to live up to my Queen of Pain status and this it to prevent bruises and scrapes. I saw a quote in Entertainment Weekly that made me think of you. It will be at the bottom of my post.

Jan<<>>Hey say hello to the Kents for me, oh you said Smalltown and not Smallville, my bad. Anwayz I love that “Smell this shoe quote” If I was that woman’s daughter I wouldn’t tell her ANYTHING about what happens in school.

GXB<<<Sorry I haven't been around in a while, but my Internet is currently disconnected>>>
Dude that sucks <<<but my father (who's supposed to pay it) is being a real asshole>>>Has anyone ever been a fake one? <<<But I'm not going to bite the head off of anyone who does it. >>>Good. I like seeing those who believe in “I may not agree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it” <<<I'm a smartass also ;) >>> Yes but are you a real or a fake one?<<<But for now, let's all remember who the real enemy is.>>>Um the dumbass who would rather program a basketball game instead of showing Buffy tonight? <<<Those people over in S8 that hate us ;) >>>Oh they are even worse.

“Any dessert that doesn’t have chocolate is a pointless dessert.”~ Kate Beckinsale

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 12:15:44 PM
IP: 21cust139.tnt2.orl3.da.uu.net

nifty. LOL.
Anonymous
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 11:20:52 AM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

i could say the same for your posts as well.
nukesgoboom
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 11:19:42 AM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

*quirks and eyebrow, and quotes"

Nukes: "this isn't 'giving you shit'. When I give you shit, you'll know it."
This has yet to bore me. So I will keep reading your posts; they seem to just keep getting more and more amusing.

Josh: Point. :)

Hey, anyone in college want to come on a nifty summer program that tours eastern europe for a couple weeks? You can earn 6 transferable credits for school, and they'll even let you come back a day or so before the trip is supposed to end if you want to attend the gathering. ;)

"anonymous" : If you just want to look at the pretty pictures, there is a link at the top of the "add comment" page that will let you veiw all of them without flooding the room. click on "Images".

*off again*
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 10:47:28 AM
IP: 205.184.191.88

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Anonymous
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 10:28:46 AM
IP: chcgil2-ar4-243-040.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net

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Anonymous
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 10:28:11 AM
IP: chcgil2-ar4-243-040.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net

Just dropping by to say hello.

I hope everyone is well.
Brooklyn
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 10:27:27 AM
IP: chcgil2-ar4-243-040.chcgil2.dsl.gtei.net

hey everyone... just got some questions... i been thinking... YES, I'VE BEEN THINKING! AAH!... but anyway, i have sopme questions about gargoyle anatomy.... like... how much stronger is the average gargoyle compared to the average man... and obviously, they have to eat... but how much do they need to eat to survive? with stone sleep and all... does that mean they can go twice as long? anyway... jsut wanted to know... if anyone has even come up with all that yet... lol

and another thing... just reading through peoples posts... i've noticed that people in the CR are way to critical, and/or defensive in here. geez, the word gay cuase quite a bit of fuss. aren't people suppost to come in here to make comments... or have questions... and some people can answer them and such... but people are getting way off TGS to other stuff that people start taking things personally... or if someone sounds to forward (like i did) and such, people start getting on you. and calling people morons when they use the werd gay, and people keep telling everyone else that they should come up with better insults... why are we competing over insults? why can't we all just... get along?

anyway, just some thoughts of mine...

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 09:28:41 AM
IP: ns.usd230.k12.ks.us

Sorry I haven't been around in a while, but my Internet is currently disconnected, it should be back up as soon as the bill is paid, but my father (who's supposed to pay it) is being a real asshole. So hopefully, I'll be posting regularly soon, and be back on AIM soon.

Aww, there was a flame war here and I missed it. But I may as well put in my $.02

I guess I fit in with Tim's definition of a true Liberal. I'm not a PC Thug in the least. I'll confess that I do not use the word 'Gay' in the way that Nukes did, and I do not like seeing it used that way at all. But I'm not going to bite the head off of anyone who does it. Just keep it to myself and laugh at the stupidity of the person who says it... yes, I'm a smartass also ;)

But for now, let's all remember who the real enemy is. Those people over in S8 that hate us ;)

ERIN> Welcome to the TGS CR. Enjoy the chaos that we wreak. Takes her sanity and places it on the shelf with everyone else's.
Greg Bishansky
I'm, the, Devil
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 09:11:57 AM
IP: 167.206.248.14

*blushes* oops. sorry about that.
metaldemon
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 08:49:01 AM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Josh> A wet-back is anyone who is a legal or illegal immigrant from any country south of America. In other words, Mexicans (myself), Venezuelans, Guatamalans, Chileans, etc. Illegal immigrants are called this because, usually, they have to swim or cross the Rio Grande; as a result, their backs are wet: hence, wet-back. Legal immigrants and residents (such as myself) are called this because....well, I don't know why, to be honest; probably just because bigots, given their moral superiority and astonishing intelligence, can't come with anything better.
Anyways, I don't act kindly to this term, seeing as how I have too much pride in my ancestory.
<<Good rant>>
Thanks :).

metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 08:47:32 AM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Patrick -- <<Wait right there a moment... :: whistles, and a lounging couch is brought in, complete with slave girls with ostrich feather fans :: There you are, milady. A little gift from the friendly neighboorhood Puck. >>

Ooo! Thanks *^_~* Mmm... ostrich feathers!

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 08:07:32 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

sj- THANK YOU! you know, the one thing that i have noticed about you is that you have an incredible ability to express what you think in humor. i need to learn how to do that. i could not have said it better, from now on i let you do the talking. i agree with you totally, and i hope more people do to.

josh- dumb people in ap courses? w/e, maybe where you live but not here. CT has one of the best school systems in the country. and EVERYONE is passing, so its not like people fail all the time like they do at your school.

lynati- im not gonna take sh!t from you cause i used "lol" in the wrong context (according to you , anyway). get a life.

----
in the end, it seems that most everyone here has heard gay used in slang. there was WAY to much overreaction, just like sj said. its funny and pathetic at the same time. thanks guys, i did have some good laughs. im im through kissing people's asses. im not gonna stand in the middle anymore.

besides that.....
have nice day!
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 08:06:58 AM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

Mooncat> ahhhhh ok! I really wasn't aware that the term "gay" was being used so much as a negative comment. I guess moving to Smalltown, America and being out of the school system has sheltered me more than I realized.

I had another dress-down this past weekend. The female was sooooooooo drunk! She would bounce back and forth between crying, laughing, and being angry.
Cindy: I'm not *that* drunk, I don't need to be here
Me: yes ma'am, you were over the legal limit... WAY over plus you were driving a car.
Cindy: *crying* I've lost my husband and my father in the same year.
Me: I'm sorry ma'am.
Cindy: I was driving drunk??
Me: yes ma'am, that's why the officer brought you here.
Cindy: what about my dog?
Me: was he drinking and driving too?
Cindy: no
Me: then he won't be arrested, ma'am.
Cindy: ohhh! well that's good.

About 10 minutes later she finally got my joke about her dog and began laughing hysterically. I'm sure it was my cunning sense of humor and not the alcohol ;)
She was placed on a 6 hour hold and released in the morning.

We received notification from the post office yesterday that Dillards and Este Laudre will be doing a mass mailing of _powdered_ perfume samples. Give me a freakin' break! How stupid is this?? NOW they send out a powder sample?? Our phones will be ringing off the walls with reports of Anthrax in their mail... eesh! *groans*

time for work... *shuffles off*
Jan
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 05:35:03 AM
IP: modem19-147.mo-net.com

DPH > Hey, I have weird sense of humor, too. But yes, I think anyone who puts white powder in the mail (or anywhere else) right now would deserve to get arrested and put in jail. Just like the guy at O'Hare airport who thought it would be "funny" to try taking nine knives, a stun gun, and a can of mace through security. He got the TV interview he wanted. Now he's getting a nice interview from the FBI.

Josh > And the same guy could also go nine months without sucessfully fatheing a single child. Since he is only making the attempt with each female once every twelve days, his odds of randomly hitting the two to three day window when conception is even possble are smaller. Plus, unless he's superhuman like Captain Kirk, he's biologically exhausting himself making the attempts. It's the same kind of reasoning as why a baseball team has more than one pitcher on the bench. You never achieve peak performance if you have to play six innings every single night of the week. Meanwhile, the single female with the twelve males has a well-rested male every night, so statistically she is assured of not missing the fertile period. Ergo, her odds of conception greatly increase.

Re: Eyrie Building design > Hey, do they still sell those t-shirts to the civil engineering students that they sold when I was in college? The ones that say things like "Structural engineers do it by the stiffness method?" Heh... I'll have to track down the list I once had of "Top ten reasons to be a civil engineer."

Mooncat > Wait right there a moment... :: whistles, and a lounging couch is brought in, complete with slave girls with ostrich feather fans :: There you are, milady. A little gift from the friendly neighboorhood Puck.
And not 'tis time for me to head off to work and change into my secret identity: Cubicle Man!

:: leaps a tall stack of Post-It Notes in a single bound and scurries from the room ::
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 04:29:59 AM
IP: ac900b4f.ipt.aol.com

Hey folks.

Okay, three things down, many to go. Perfect score on my fluids homework, easy stat quiz, easy math quiz, easy materials midterm.

But today, Airborne Express made my sh*t list. Why? Because they delivered my RAM upgrade a) without having it signed for and b) by LEAVING IT UNDER THE DOOR MAT! Do those idiots have any idea how it could have been trampled/destroyed/stolen/other?

Punks.

Oh well, the RAM upgrade worked and installed with only a minimum of effort (still only the PowerMac G4 that doesn't require ANY screws to install a ram upgrade) and now I'm chugging along with triple the ram in my iBook (I've settled on Seawolf for the iBook and Typhoon for the tower).

Lots of work to do tonight, so I can spend the next couple days studying hard (or hardly studying). Of course, I didn't do any of it, I just watched Bust-on Public (my new name since Jerri Ryan!) and Ally McBeal. Well, somehow I managed to get Stat sort of done.

replies

Lady Mystic: <<should you encounter problems this week don't worry about it>>: But I won't be able to read SJ's rants! ::taps vein frantically:: Must have TGS CR! <<"For your fish"... used in place of FYI>>: I see...no, no I don't. <<*does* have higher priorities at the moment>>: Then he's fired. I have no time for engineers who don't engineer. <<Interesting>>: If you say so.

Lynati: <<maybe I just reaallly don't like eminem>>: But he's so funny! At least he gives you the benefit of a warning saying "if you don't like it you can kiss his white butt". <<at least ~someone~ here has shown some appreciation for my attempts to grow a spine>>: I support spine growth. In general. <<We talk and talk and don’t even know what we are saying half the time>>: And yet, that hardly gets us to shut up. Sick, isn't it? <>: LOL! <<Has anyone seen the sanity jar?>>: I broke it. And spilled its contents down the drain.

Spike: <<Somewhere in small boy logic, it was more important to beat his brother to the van than to look for traffic>>: If they were rocket scientists, they wouldn't be little boys. <<my hands have felt like they're full of broken glass>>: OUCH! Hope you can get that fixed.

Metaldemon: <<dammnit, they show on TV so it must true>>: Hence the gargoyles fandom ;-) Good rant. <<wet back>>: I'm sorry, what does that mean? I'm bad with derrogatory slang...my parents refused to use it.

Moochie: <<Are you trying to imply that the physically-disadvantaged among us are killjoys? That they're a drag? Because that's what it looks like from here>>: No, I was just implying that he's defective. And yes, I do think its reasonable to imply that the physically handicapped are "defective", since they are limited in their functionality to other humans, which is the definition of defective. Note that this does not mean I harbor any bias or hatred for handicapped...and if my attendance at UC Berkeley isn't proof of that, I don't know what is. <<That when a girl's got guns and an itty-bitty waist >>: LOL! She's Lara Croft!

Crzy: <<and you know this ... how>>: Just a guess. <>: That's not a very good plan. <>: But we need your expert opinions ;-)

Spacebabie: <<Knee and elbow pads, for my roller sneakers>>: Yeah sure. We all know what knee pads are really for. <<Um this isn’t a chat room, please don’t hog the CR with your tennis style postings>>: Thank you. <<for every Jack there are five Wills>>: Who?

Mooncat: <<I've seen real life human girls have multiple boyfriends/sex parters, with no murders or crippling going on>>: Well I've seen eaxactly the opposite. So your "proof" isn't any more or less valid than my "proof". <>: The only way you'd believe that is if you'd never had multiple boyfriends at once THAT WERE AWARE OF EACH OTHER. Hell, I get grief from EX-boyfriends when I'm dating a girl. It only gets uglier the girl is to her past (or current) b/fs. <<Because frankly, unless he's the energizer bunny, that man is going to wear out>>: You really live in the anti-fantasy world where women never get tired? Obviously your boyfriends have problems. <<much less make babies in all of them in one shot>>: You're right, you're assuming one sexual encounter and I'm not. <<The closer you approach infinity, the less your numbers hold up. Twice infinity is still... infinity. In infinate numbers, all things are equal>>: Actually no. you should go take statistics again. <<Did I forget to say "Mother May I?" when I took a step? *^_~* -- Yes, I can reverse an implication. In fact, I did>>: He didn't mean you "can't", he meant that it wasn't logically sound. And he was right. <<since when did Game Boy and the like become beneficial to genetic survival>>: Since it kept me way too busy to get my butt kicked. <<Fox, Elisa, and Demona, and a beautiful ornate bath tub big enough to swim in>>: Cuz that one hasn't been done to death.

Revel: <<the thought alone shakes the very foundation of the universe>>: Depends on whose evil twin we're talking about. <>: I'd love to sit down and figure out the optimal number of clothes that would allow me to cut laundry costs...but i just don't have the time to do the calculation. Maybe over break. As it is, I can go 2-3 weeks. <<Gives me time to collect quarters because the dollar machine is always broke>>: There IS no dollar machine on ours. And I have to make trips to the bank to get enough quarters to do this crap.

SOROW: <>: I'm sorry. Every time I talk to one of my ex's I wonder two things: 1) what the devil was I thinking and 2) can I shoot myself now and put them out of my misery? <<It does stand for something but I usually like to keep that to myself>>: Well then its kind of hard for us to tell you if you should keep it or not.

Nukes: <<now, i see that people have got to hate me and what not. oh well, i tried>>: Being really obnoxious probably doesn't hlep. <<maybe YOU should come up with better insults>>: Maybe the better ones aren't appropriate for this CR. <>: If you paid attention to the world around you, I'm sure you could figure out that many people would find that offensive. <<im in all ap courses and the like>>: Ooh wow. I was in a lot of AP courses too. And I'm an engineering student at the best Civil Engineering school in the country now. And you know what? Half of the people in those AP courses were just as stupid as the people outside the courses, and most of them got 5's. And half of the people in my major are stupid too. Being good at school, I learned (the hard way), does NOT make you smart. <<im only happy when it rains>>: You and Garbage ;-) <>: Gunjack was so wrong. I'm always involved in debates and there are many people in here that I respect a great deal. No, not everyone, but who does respect everyone? <<see guys? im not the only one here who has heard it used in slang>>: I think most of us have heard it used in slang before. But that doesn't make it any more valid.

Tim: <<You too can be poked fun at and criticized>>: Hmmm...good point. Then again I always did think Dennis Miller was one of the funniest guys ever. <<a true liberal>>: Can you be a liberal if you are annoyed by bigots? Or if you'd like to end bigotry? Or do you HAVE to support bigotry just to support free speech?

Terrky: <<just because we communitcate, and/or reply to eachothers postings alot, doesn't mean we use the CR as a Chat room>>: Yes, that is exactly what that means. Keep your posts down. No one wants to read every other thought that pops into your head. <<does that mean that there is a limited amout of posts that can be posted in a week er what?>>: No, it just means we don't want to have to scroll through your junk. <>: Quick, call CNN! Sorry, dude, you set yourself up for that one ;-)

Entity: <<Stereotypes exist because they are statistically sound>>: I guess so. <<thoughtful>>: In this CR!? That'll learn ya!

Mooncat: <<If we started using the term "caucasion" or "christian" instead of "gay" as the new slang term showing disdain, perhaps the general public wouldn't be so flip about it>>: I think that'd be flippin' hysterical.

Patrick: <<Several of you seem to be arguing under the mistaken assumption that orgasm = insemination each and every time a male has intercourse with a female>>: You're right. But while the single female is pregnant for nine months, the single male has nine months to get all his females pregnant. I'd say that significantly increases the number of kids. Because in NINE MONTHS of trying, I'm sure you could get more than 2 women pregnant. And if not...switch to iced undies. <<to put YOUR genes into pool before the other guy can>>: Close to my goal, only a different word in place of "genes". <<Grody to the max!" "That's bogus, man!" or even "Gag me with a spoon>>: Raunchy ;-)

Bronx: <<It would be nice someday to walk down the hallway with my signifigant other without any odd stares or distasteful slurs being thrown at us>>: Come to Berkeley. There is no city that is less friendly to straight white men than Berkeley.

Aingeal: <<except josh, and since that's mutual we needednt go there>>: Don't start with me, young lady.

Sevarius Jr: <<what a bunch of whiny fags>>: LOL you always know just how to get us to look. <>: How do you stand on the opinion of your clone? <<that certain groups of individuals are NOT allowed to use certain words>>: Wait, I didn't say that. I don't think the word "gay" should be used to describe something stupid. I also don't think blacks should call other blacks the n-word (which I'm not saying because I personally don't like it, not because I'm worried about offending anyone). <<I'm sure some of you would find that acceptable>>: Nope. <<by golly he's a homophobe, right>>: No, just a dumb teenager. <<retards, hookers, and junkies (I practically do that anyway>>: I was just gonna say...isn't that your normal post? <<It's not always about YOU. Hate to tell you that>>: Try saying that after I've taken over. <>: Good quote.

Jan: <<You mean as in "Bible-thumper" "Jesus Freak" or even "Religious Fanatic" ? When you hear these terms used, do you think of Christianity in a positive light>>: There are plenty of "religious fanatics" who aren't christians. I don't think its a good idea to be fanatical about anything. <<you goober>>: And now the debate has really sunk to its lowest level. I'm a goober, am I? LOL. <>: You didn't seem to think my bumper sticker that said "where are we going and why are we in this handbasket" was very funny when y'all pulled me over.

Aaron: <<This is the gayest comment room ever. C'mon Silent Bob, let's go>>: LOL lets see what he says when we start bashing his movie. <<Think about the last person you said "f**k you!" too. Would you ever in a million years actually want to f**k them?>>: God I hope not. I'd be flattened. <<Same with things that suck>>: I had a physics teacher who wanted us to explain why we used "suck" to describe bad things...when obviously only GOOD things "suck". <<they'll give you plenty of reasons to hate them as an individual, because they're an @$$hole>>: Which is really the only reason I hate anyone. <<Please keep in mind, this is a comment room, not a chat room>>: Kindly inform Nukes and Terrky.

Yooper: <>: That sounds like something I should know about, seeing as I'm taking a similar materials class. My 2nd midterm in that class was today...gotta love midterms that are just like the practice exam. What is it? <>: Good luck. May yours be as easy as mine. <<someone tries to blow up the forestry building>>: Oh, if only they'd try to do that here. Cursed forestry majors, dumber than bricks and hogging all the nice buildings on campus. <>: Eh, just go to office hours and have them tell you how to do it. Its not worth spending 2 hours on this. Or any other homework. <<You could probably put a castle on top of a skyscraper, tho>>: I *think* my original statement was that the Eyrie couldn't exist bccause the castle would be impossible to support correctly. If that's the case, then I was wrong and I concede. Oh well. << Could you build higher that it's current height so that the weight higher floors equals the weight of Wyvern>>: It'd be in violation of FAA regulations if it was taller tahn 2000 feet. <<How could he have *not* known it was there? Were the surveyors and engineers who planned the dismantling of Wyvern in Scotland blind and stupid?>>: For that matter, did they just forget to show David the new plans?! Chances are very high that Demona's passageway didn't even exist anymore. <<Think about the shearing stresses on those rock bolts>>: As usual, you can fix that with bigger bolts. <>: Yeah, I'd probably agree. <<A crane>>: A SKYcrane. Sorry, but that's my solution to everything ;-) <<the blocks are light enough to just put them on a truck>>: It'd have to be a big truck. Its a better bet to keep them on a ship in the harbor and transport them by chopper. Driving them to the site would create many many square blocks of solid traffic. <<That's a lot like claiming that I'm the sanest inmate in the asylum, however>>: LOL. <<they've been getting a lot of bad environmental press (a lot of it undeserved in my opinion)>>: Well as a civil engineer, your opinion on the subject is biased.

Erin: There's no way to use your own image. And you don't need to post that many times. One or two posts per day is really more than enough.

DPH: Still haven't gotten your check deposited yet. I'll do it eventually.

Gside: <<It was>>: I HATE it when that happens. <<Unless Rutgers has started pumping something through the ventilation system>>: Ya know, that sounds like a euphamism for something really dirty. <<At least one that keeps them temporarily quieter>>: My wallet? <<It's easier to convince the stupid ones to stand and fight>>: You'll never see me behaving like that ;-) <<Mayhap you can>>: Stop assuming that I'd try! <<Or whatever the equivalent in whatever language>>: Klingons, Humans...we all call home "Earth". <<I'm excused if I want to make use of it>>: Excused!? You're expected to! <<If you didn't make it out intact, you're not really alive, are you?>>: The entire city of Berkeley would beg to differ. <<Not bad, but a bit more difficult to get any gravity there. Nah, it spins too. <<after she gets impregnated, the other times are all extraneous>>: Where as the single man can move on to the next female. <<did you notice the words average>>: Methinks its been a while since everyone took stat. <<No you cannot>>: You tell her!

Hmmm...dream time.

Dude, straws. Real men shouldn't be sucking on things.
-Rocky Teruya

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, November 6, 2001 12:58:09 AM
IP: adsl-64-168-28-162.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net

Imzadi> <<Unless normal was redefined while I slept last night>>: It was.
<<They should smoke less crack>>: This is all natural. Unless Rutgers has started pumping something through the ventalation system.
<<Women have off switches!?>>: At least one that keeps them temporarially quieter.
<>: It's easier to convince the stupid ones to stand and fight.
<<She was the only one I could beat bison with>>: I think I got him with Dahlsim a couple times.
<<You said before that you were confident I could pull it off>>: Really? Mayhap you can.
<<But we'd probably call it Earth anyway>>: Or whatever the equivalent in whatever language developed in the slightly different environment.
<<Gside takes off his glasses to reveal...LOGIC MAN!>>: I've taken enough classes in it that I think I'm excused if I want to make use of it.
<<Intact>>: Well, yeah. If you didn't make it out intact, you're not really alive, are you?
<>: Not bad, but a bit more difficult to get any gravity there.

Mooncat> <>: Right, but after she gets impregnated, the other times are all extraneous.
<<You are assuming that every mating of your single man with four women (at the SAME TIME) will produce at least four children>>: Not really, I think it's more it more beneficial to a male to keep multiple mates than it is to a female. Let's assume two sets, a male with multiple mates, and a female with multiple mates. First time around, everyone has a go at it, let's assume one of the multiple females gets pregnant. Next time, it the man with all but one of his, while the woman has all hers. This time, let's assume one female from each sets gets impregnated. The guy can keep working on his n-2 women, while the second set has to wait another nine months or so for another chance.
<<a single mating with his four women (which is far more likely to be zero than 4), the woman with multiple men only has to catch once to prove the genetic survival benefit TO HER of having as many prime specimens of males to mate with as possible>>: But still what's the probability of your single woman from one time x+0.06? That's not too much.
<<what does *that* mean?>>: We're perverted.
<<he closer you approach infinity, the less your numbers hold up>>: Did you notice the words average? That would indicate something like lim(as n aproaches infinity of (1/n*sum(i=1 to n of (number of children produced by group i)))). Which would not produce an infinite number. Unless you know of a way to produce infinite children over a finite lifetime.
<<Yes, I can reverse an implication. In fact, I did>>: No you cannot, and when you did, you did something very bad. Let's take a couple famous logical statements (used to discuss another principle, but so what). Humans are mortal. Socrates is a human. Both these statements seem true to me. Are you going to tell me that anything that's ever lived and died is human? And did you die of hemlock poisoning a couple thousand years ago in Greece?
<<What does getting eaten by a lion have to do with genetic benefit?>>: It has negative benefit, but can still happen. If you get removed from the gene pool, you'll want to have others around to carry on the species.

Patrick Toman> <<hand feeding you sushi while you recline on a couch>>: While she's wearing Canadian flag boxers on her head? Sorry, I've never been able to take (salmon) sushi seriously ever since...

Welcome, Erin.

Lynati> <<Has anyone seen the sanity jar?>>: I think Wilek had it last.

I'll get the rest later.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Monday, November 5, 2001 11:59:40 PM
IP: nat01-mccr-ext.rutgers.edu

Tim> Heheh. :)
Entity
Monday, November 5, 2001 11:03:55 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

DPH -- <<I have heard (a few years ago) it said by a member of the religious right on tv (not Pat Robertson) that the homosexual community blocked legislation for a while that
would have required blood screening for AIDS so that the heterosexual community would come down with AIDS through transfusions. Can someone either deny or confirm it with evidence? (if this does not strike a nerve I am suprised; I'm only repeating what I heard a few years ago.) >>

I doubt there is any truth to that story. Donated blood can be screened at any time without permission of the donar. Once it's donated, the blood belongs to whatever organization it's been donated to. And as for deliberately trying to infect heterosexuals by transfusion? Again, I doubt it. If any person with Aids wanted to infect other people, they wouldn't need something as iffy as tranfusion.
Heterosexuals are right now the greatest risk group for AIDS because of casual, unprotected sex. No transfusion needed.

*Mooncat wanders back to her fan fic writing...*
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, November 5, 2001 11:03:46 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

DPH> Aids bit: I've never heard of that happening; though I would say anyone who blocks AIDS screening so that others may recieve it is just plain malevolent. I doubt that that's the reason for it; in fact, I would say it's highly unlikely and probably said to further a malevolent purpose.
And the KKK would use the same book to prove you wrong.
As far as PC is concerned...yeah, it's pretty useless to come up with politcally correct ways of saying things. It's pretty much impossible to satisfy everyone when it comes to PC: some feminists want "man" taken out of "woman." I think it was Dennis Miller who said there's limits to this. Yeah, man-kind should be human-kind, but man-hole should not be person-hole, etc.
Yeah, I sometimes go out of my way to say human-kind in a paper, not to be PC, but just out of respect. I happen to understand etymological meanings of some words and what they mean, and as a result, I try to stay consistant with my beliefs in the way I speak. That's just me.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Monday, November 5, 2001 10:30:40 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Entity : I bet you won't from now on! ; )
Tim
Monday, November 5, 2001 10:17:43 PM
IP: wsc003.wsc.edu

Entity : I bet won't be from now on! ; )
Tim
Monday, November 5, 2001 10:17:14 PM
IP: wsc003.wsc.edu

Tim> Easy boy. There was no antagonism in my comments. I was trying to be thoughtful. I'll remember not to do that.
Entity
Monday, November 5, 2001 10:09:23 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

Home again and back at work. High turnover among residents lately. Six new ones in the past ten days. We'd had a pretty mellow, quiet, even bunch for a while there, but the vacation is over. One of the new guys spent two hours standing next to the toaster in the kitchen, laughing in a way that sends shivers up the spine and talking to himself. Two solid hours. The toaster never answered.

Sabledrake update > the new issue is posted! Stories, art, reviews, articles, and a lovely cover by our own Crzy! Click or go to http://www.sabledrake.com/magazine.htm

Jan > I didn't actually buy the wings; they were eight bucks each ; )
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, November 5, 2001 09:52:41 PM
IP: 23-118.075.popsite.net

hey everyone.... i just got to thinking... damn, nukes man, you really did get something started in here... all it takes is the word GAY to get everyone up in a frenzy. LMAO

anyway... not alot going on here... imma little bored... i want my guitar!!!

hmm.... and bye the way... Erin, i don't mind if you use the brooklyn pic at all... feel free.. as long as we post in different colours.

hmm... *sigh* *pops a jawbreaker into his mouth*

anyway.. i think i shoudl go get some sleep.

bye everyone

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
kansas
Monday, November 5, 2001 09:37:34 PM
IP: a020-0905.kscy.splitrock.net

DPH: <> I think that's largely true, but I think it's important to distinguish true liberals from P.C. thugs.

A true liberal is someone who is willing to aknowledge someone's opinions, expeiences and lifestyle regardless of how much they may or may not disagree with them. In fact, many may have a conservative lifestyle and veiws, but don't interfere with the lives of others. Liberals are not always associated with the leftest political philosophy. There have been many liberal Republicans such as Nelson Rockefeller.

Politically Correctness is the conformity to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities should be eliminated. People who are PC often preach open-mindness and tolerance but will often criticize those with differing veiwpoints and will interfere with your life in the name of "progress." Perhaps the best case study would be Ralph Nader. If you'd like someone to tell you in minute detail how to live your life, Ralph Nader is for you. The original safety Nazi, Nader flits from cause to cause -- first campaigning against automobiles then free speech then microwave ovens. If there's more than a 1 in a billion chance you'll die from some activity, you can be certain Nader wants to outlaw it.
In 1996 and 2000 Nader ran for President on the Green Party ticket - a group whose opposition to individual freedom fit hand-in-glove with Nader's own views on the subject.
Tim Phipps
Monday, November 5, 2001 09:17:26 PM
IP: wsc003.wsc.edu

Jan -- <<< Mooncat> <<If we started using the term "caucasion" or "christian" instead of "gay" as the new slang term showing disdain, perhaps the general public wouldn't be so flip about it. >> You mean as in "Bible-thumper" "Jesus Freak" or even "Religious Fanatic" ? >>>

Actually, I mean like a term of general disdain that you use for everything and anything that is disagreeable or repulsive. For example, if I saw some drunk peeing on a public sidewalk and said "that is so christian" with a sneer. Because that is how the phrase "that's so gay" is often used currently -- In the context of "generic" derogatory slang, not to describe a specific action or thing, but anything considered off, or repugnant.

And since there is a strong connection to the word gay and homosexual, as there is between a follower of Christ and the word Christian, perhaps you can see why the accepted use of the word in a negative, sneering way might be offensive to someone who is homosexual, or has homosexual friends, relatives or simply dislikes bigotry in general.

<<*shrugs* When I say, "that's so gay" it means just that. If someone is acting like the stereotypical homosexual, then that's what I'm referring to. It's not a bad thing.>>

And if that's how you use it, then you'd just be commenting on something obviously homosexual. But in the current common slang, saying "that's so gay" is used for *anything* you want to show disdain for, or to belittle.

<>

Actually, I haven't said anything about Nukes, or how he used the word. I think he used it as innocently as a nice white boy in the 1950s would used the word "colored" to discribe a non-white. Most people back then didn't mean anything negative by it. They were using a common term for any person who wasn't white.

But the realization that the term was insulting to non-whites slowly dawned on the public at large, and most people have stopped using it out of general politeness.

I'm not blasting Nukes for using the phrase. It's common and I've heard grade school children use it in casual conversation about anything and everything they find distasteful. "That's so gay." -- perfectly innocent because they really don't know any better.

But since the topic of this phrase and how it offends some people has come up, I just gave my own feelings about it without mentioning Nukes. Until now. Yes, it offends me. But I honestly don't think Nukes meant his use of it as a slam against gay people.

This doesn't make the use of the phrase any less offensive though.

As for the people saying they should be allowed to use whatever derogatory language they want, without criticism -- This is America and you can say whatever you want, however insulting and derogatory and distasteful it may be.

However the same freedom of speech gives those of us who find it distasteful the right to say we find it distasteful.
So wether you are spouting off in ignorance of giving insult, or simply to get shock value attention, or if you are a geniune bigot or jerk, it's your right to say what you like and I'll stand up for your right to say it.

Doesn't mean I agree with *what* your saying. And I have the same right to say what I don't like about what you say, and why.

It's good to be an American.
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, November 5, 2001 09:15:52 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Nukes Go Boom><>
I don't have any problem with you; I don't hate anyone, some poeple may annoy me to the point to where I try to avoid them or not talk to them, but I would never hate anyone. You haven't annoyed me at all. And I didn't mean for my post to mean that I have a problem with you as a person. I think my post did what Jan wanted: brought to light the term that was offending, said it was offending, and I equated it to another term to show how it was offensive. That's what I did. To be honost, I really have no idea why Tim hopped on my tail for doing what I did and putting me in a bad light.
I didn't decide anything. I obviously can't change the way you speak; I can bring to light a new perspective on the language you use, but I have no power in making you change your speech. All I'm saying is (and I don't know how this got blown into Judy Garlands and Gay Rodeos and how those justify anything about using the word "gay" as negative slang), is just be aware of the words you use. My roomates use that slang term all the time and they see why it offends me and try not to use it around me.
I'm sorry if I came off as harsh on you; your right in that you had no idea about moi. I have the tendency to be harsh on poeple, so don't take it personally ;).
Tim> I have the same problem: I'm a wet back, peacnick, facsist, woman-hater (for being pro-life), fag, bleeding-heart liberal (for wanting a moratorium to take place), Jesus freak, spick, air head, devil worshiper (for listening to metal), and a heathen (for believing in religious views contrary to main-stream religious beliefs), and a I'm an in-the-closet hetereosexual for not living up to stereotypes (seriously, this has been thrown at me). That's why you fight to cast off these misconceptions. My point in saying what I said is that you came off as saying I'm complaining about nothing, when I felt there is something to complain about. So, my axe is as big as yours. o_0.
<>
Right, then you brought the MTV incident, which implied a revertion back to your "belief" (and I use that word hesitantly) that the microcosm of your school came to light once again. Pehaps I am not seeing it. I don't really care.
Anyways, I can see I started something that went over-board. So I won't comment on it anymore.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmai.com]
denton, tx
Monday, November 5, 2001 08:58:50 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

Well bye guys I'm singing off for the day GARGOYLES is on in 15 min on Toon Disney Bye!!
Erin - [naturegrl@charter.net]
Wis
Monday, November 5, 2001 08:12:28 PM
IP: 24-196-121-174.fdl.wi.charter.com

I'f any one wants to chat I'll be in the chat room

PS.
I'm really board
Erin - [naturegrl@charter.net]
Wis
Monday, November 5, 2001 08:08:22 PM
IP: 24-196-121-174.fdl.wi.charter.com

SJ - I agree with your last post.

I should be able to express all my opinions and prejudices openly and honestly, but that does not mean you have to hear/read them. I have kept quite on somethings because I don't need to express them when I have said that I'm a conservative Southern Baptist. Being in that group, I am worried about the possibility of some day during a religious service, police come in arrest a preacher for his sermon because he critized actions of a certain group of people. [I imagine there are quite a few groups who would like to do that today.)

I believe most Politically Correct business comes from liberals who are intolerant of other people's opinions.

So most people don't have the same sense of humor I do; does that mean I should be locked away because some people think I have a scary since of humor?

I have heard (a few years ago) it said by a member of the religious right on tv (not Pat Robertson) that the homosexual community blocked legislation for a while that would have required blood screening for AIDS so that the heterosexual community would come down with AIDS through transfusions. Can someone either deny or confirm it with evidence? (if this does not strike a nerve I am suprised; I'm only repeating what I heard a few years ago.)

Patrick - saying 'I am a hijacker/terrorist' isn't funny to me. I take certain things seriously.

I was watching on the discovery where the KKK was asking Jesus Christ for help. I wanted to grab one of them, force him to read certain passages out of the bible, and finally ask him to show me in the bible where Jesus was a racist. But if I shut them down for saying that, I'm opening the doors for the pastor to be arrested anytime he preaches morality from the bible so I am tolerant of that idiot's speech.

Nukesgoboom - <<i think gunjack said it best when he explained that there were only 2 ways to survive in this comment room. that is (credit gunjack)
1. never to get seriously invovled in any of the discussions or topics.
2. have total and utter disregard for anyone elses opinion>> hmm. maybe that's what I have been doing wrong.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, November 5, 2001 08:02:14 PM
IP: max1-68.cwy.cei.net

I'm just wondering you know this image thing could I in any way at all use a image of my own to put there insted of the one I have there now??
Erin - [naturegrl@charter.net]
Wis
Monday, November 5, 2001 07:53:50 PM
IP: 24-196-121-174.fdl.wi.charter.com

Oy, what a day. I don't understand the direct stiffness method at all, I have a materials exam, someone tries to blow up the forestry building, I spend two hours trying to track down a simple problem in my hydrology homework, and I have to finish an assignment on construction contract General Conditions for tomorrow.

On to replies. Sorry that some of these languished for days. (I don't always catch everything, so sorry if I miss some of 'em.)

"Gay">> I dunno. I've heard it used in the context that Nukes used a lot. At any rate, Jan's right. If someone had said pleasantly that they didn't like Nukes usage, this flaming back and forth for hours could have been avoided right there. It's not like he goes out of his way to be offensive, so it was likely inadvertant.

Gside>><<At Rutgers, the statics course everyone has to take is officially general engineering, but it might as well be MechE>> At Michigan Tech, the ME department has a combined statics/mechanics of materials class for civils, then has a statics class for its own students. God, I love this place.

Josh>><> Actually, I love structures too. But that day I didn't have a chance to eat breakfast, so it was nice to have an hour break in what is normally 3 hrs straight.<<But don't those maybe look a bit thin to you>> Yeah, actually that's why I put up that incoherent post on Wednesday. I think that they might actually be able to hold up, if they were strong enough steel. The unsupported span under the castle where the cliff face is might not, tho. I don't actually think that the Eyrie could be built as drawn in the show. You could probably put a castle on top of a skyscraper, tho. Think about it this way: imagine that the Eyrie didn't have the castle, but was taller. Could you build higher that it's current height so that the weight higher floors equals the weight of Wyvern? Cost and local code has often been the limiting factor in building height, not structural design. Actually, it might actually be cheaper to put the castle on top of it because the wind loads are much lower<<The castle on top of the Eyrie is clearly NOT the same castle that sat on the cliff face>> Yeah, Greg said that too. Which is kind of funny, because in "City of Stone," Demona comes into the castle thru a secret passage and says something along the lines that "not even Xanatos knows all of the secrets here." How could he have *not* known it was there? Were the surveyors and engineers who planned the dismantling of Wyvern in Scotland blind and stupid? For that matter, how did she know it was there, if the castle has been changed? *shrugs* Just a nitpick.<<Welded rock bolts?>> Think about the shearing stresses on those rock bolts. Also, they'd be in danger of pulling thru the cliff. I don't think you could have a castle on top of what has to be a 200 foot span. If the tower ran right up to the castle, w/o the arboretum, or that damn silly cliff, I think it could be done.

Fire Storm>><<How do you move the huge granite bricks to the top of that building?>> A crane. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't castles built using rudimentary derricks? That means that the blocks are light enough to just put them on a truck, drive them to the site, and hoist them up with modern equipment.<<Actually, I was thinking of what they use at the Detroit Zoo>> I had forgotten about this. You're probably right, If they could actually support the castle with a concrete slab or something.

Shadowrider>> <<. Well, so my objection about asymmetrical load is discarded.>> Actually, the loads on the buildings frame *are* asymmetrical. They are going to be higher on one side than the other, and this presents special problems. Namely, sideway. The Eyrie would probably deflect a little to one side because the moments at the joints in the frame are asymmetrical.<<especially if you consider aerodynamic effects...>> Actually, the aerodynamic effects are less than if it had been a taller building. The flat sides of a skyscraper are much less aerodynamic than the castle. (That's a lot like claiming that I'm the sanest inmate in the asylum, however.) Like I said to Josh, a lot of the problems aren't actually building supertall buildings, it's just that skyscrapers are expensive and they've been getting a lot of bad environmental press (a lot of it undeserved in my opinion).

Equipment that can't perform up to spec get's replaced. Equipment that won't perform gets abused until it will, or until it can't.
--Schlock Mercenary
Yooper - [jwprusi@nospam.up.net]
Houghton, MI
Monday, November 5, 2001 07:52:28 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

Welcome, Erin. I apologize ahead of time for the flames. We usually aren't this...oh wait. We are.
Has anyone seen the sanity jar?

Lynati
Monday, November 5, 2001 07:43:21 PM
IP: kcx-ks18a-191.rasserver.net

This is the gayest comment room ever. C'mon Silent Bob, let's go.

Actually, pretty much all insults are silly if you think about them. Think about the last person you said "f**k you!" too. Would you ever in a million years actually want to f**k them? Same with things that suck.

On the other hand, old rhyme to the contrary, words *can* hurt. And this *is*, though I know we forget, technically a PG-13 room. So please, think before you type.

All generalizations are bad. And as Dennis Miller said (Lots of DM being quoted tonight, I know) "Prejudice is pretty much the stupidest thing in the world. You should never hate somebody based on their race, gender, or sexual orientation. If you would be willing to spend just a little time to get to know that person, they'll give you plenty of reasons to hate them as an individual, because they're an @$$hole."

If anyone feels that they've been slighted because of their race, religion, political leanings, or sexual orientation, take it up with the admins. Except you Carnivorous male honkys. You're on your own. ;)

Welcome Erin. Please keep in mind, this is a comment room, not a chat room.

And I have to go now. Death's been on suicide watch ever since the Knicks lost to the Bulls.

Real post sometime in the future.

"The views expressed on this album... are f**ked. And may not necessarily be the views of anyone." - "Public Service Announcement" The Slim Shadey LP.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, November 5, 2001 07:42:36 PM
IP: dialup-64.154.228.199.dial1.sanantonio1.level3.net

Ok I think this is the pic I'm using If thats OK wit you TerryK??
Erin - [naturegrl@charter.net]
Wis
Monday, November 5, 2001 07:40:46 PM
IP: 24-196-121-174.fdl.wi.charter.com

*back in*

Just to clarify, I have had a long-standing...umm...issue with nukes prior to that. That time he just pushed the needle too far, intentionally or not. And my issue was not neccessarily with his use of that one word in particular, but with...this really isn;t the place for it. We've already been on IM with him on this Issue. I'm goign to try to let it drop now.

Entity? huh. so will I, I guess.

*flop*

Lyanti
Monday, November 5, 2001 07:40:14 PM
IP: kcx-ks18a-191.rasserver.net

hi
Anonymous
Monday, November 5, 2001 07:39:09 PM
IP: 24-196-121-174.fdl.wi.charter.com

Hay people I'm new here. Just some backround on me First My absalute fav charector is Brooklyn. and I am a 14/F. I am in 8th grade.
Erin F. - [naturegrl@charter.net]
Wis, U.S
Monday, November 5, 2001 07:37:09 PM
IP: 24-196-121-174.fdl.wi.charter.com

Spacebabie- Happy Birthday.

Fire Storm- New episodes?! Are you joking or did I totally miss something important?

metaldemon-I'm not to fond of people using 'gay' in a negative way either. Sometimes I'd rather like to kick people in the head when they use it.

Seriously people, we all have things that we'd rather not hear people say because it upsets us. All we can do is either ignore it or let them know that it bugs you. It's not worth fighting over the personal meaning of words. Well that's my adult/mature piece of advice for tonight.

Later.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Monday, November 5, 2001 07:26:25 PM
IP: ac921e96.ipt.aol.com

Mooncat> <<If we started using the term "caucasion" or "christian" instead of "gay" as the new slang term showing disdain, perhaps the general public wouldn't be so flip about it. >> You mean as in "Bible-thumper" "Jesus Freak" or even "Religious Fanatic" ? When you hear these terms used, do you think of Christianity in a positive light? Caucausian... whitey, honky, spook, etc. I am caucasian and use the phrase, "that's mighty white of 'em".
*shrugs*
When I say, "that's so gay" it means just that. If someone is acting like the stereotypical homosexual, then that's what I'm referring to. It's not a bad thing.
I think some people are getting too worked up over a misused word. I don't think it was necessary for Nukes to be blasted so harshly when I'm sure if it was just pointed out that he/she (sorry, not sure of the gender) was being offensive in using the slang in that manner, it would have stopped and apologies made. I haven't seen Nukes being defensive or hard to get along with, so there's no basis for such a reaction towards him/her.
I'm waiting to see if Enity is going to jump Lynati's butt for saying those things to Nukes.

DPH> I agree with Patrick.... there's just nothing funny about sending powder thru the mail. I have a pretty warped sense of humor and I still can't find humor in this.

FS> *shudders* TMJ... I have that too. I refused surgery and have learned to live with it. My jaw doesn't lock up, but it sure hurts up thru my ears sometimes. I hope that you find some type of solution and relief =)

Tim> preach it, brother!

Revel> <> *giggles* I'll bet I know some of them! ;)

Josh> <<All I was saying was that clinton's lack of military service had ZERO to do with how he responded to terrorism, as you seemed to claim.>> you goober ;) I didn't say that at all! I said that clinton feels as if he could do a better job because he was better trained for it... doesn't have anything to do with the _response_ of the American people.
<<You law enforcement types have no sense of humor.>> *puts on a Smokey the Bear hat and sunglasses* I don't know what you are talking about. *a forced laugh*

Skippy> *LOL!!* I've received a few of the spam emails that have all the word mamafox in the address (my hotmail address) Have you received any responses yet? :D

"Smell the shoe! Smell the shoe!"
-boston public-

Jan
Monday, November 5, 2001 06:44:12 PM
IP: modem16-02.mo-net.com

Wow, what a bunch of whiny fags.

That sentence was meant to get your attention. I'm sure it got some of yours....

Hi, you may remember me. I'm SJ, also known as the residential smartass. And if you haven't figured it out by now, I've survived in this CR by 1) never being serious and 2) not respecting opinions. Well, that last part is a lie. I DO respect the opinions of people in this CR. Some more so than others, which is where I get into trouble.

BUT, if you know me, you do know that I do not tend to take many things seriously. I don't find much that is sacred. Therefore, I'm not ready to take guys like NukesGoBoom, and burn them at the stake because they say something is "gay". Oh my God, look at the word he said, let's crucify him.

What bothers me most about this whole argument is not what was said, but the whole entire attitude, this entire PC belief structure, that certain groups of individuals are NOT allowed to use certain words. Or that certain individuals are not allowed to be criticized. NukesGoBoom can't say something is gay, because he's straight and (presumably) using the word in a negative context. What if Nukes was a homosexual and using the word? Would you still have a problem? Maybe not. I'm sure some of you would find that acceptable. Therein lies the problem.

I find it all ridiculous. It's a double standard taken to the extreme. For example: I have gay friends; some of them go about talking about other gay individuals, using language that I'd be shot dead for using. They'll call them everything in the book: fag hag, bull dyke, etc. It's the same negative context, but if someone like NukesGoBoom says it, by golly he's a homophobe, right?

It's oversensitivity, IMO. It's okay to joke about this, but oooooh, this is taboo, can't say that. Can't joke about that. It's okay to laugh at a pratfall, but don't make an AIDS joke. It's funny to watch a movie like the Birdcage, or a TV show like Will and Grace, but don't make a joke about someone's sexual orientation, cause that's taking things too far!

I'm even focusing on the homosexual thing, either. I'm just using this as an example. Basically, I'm angry at the thought that there are limits to what is acceptable. Oh, horrible, he used a stereotype! String him up! Lynch his ass!

I resent it all, why? Because it's so thoroughly hypocritical. Because it's always funny, isn't it, until it hits close to home, right? Maybe you'll nod your head and agree with something Nukes says. Maybe he could go into a long argument about why he doesn't like, say, the Catholic Church, and be honest - some of you would probably agree with him. But some of you would get pissed, why? Because hey, that hits close to home. Or maybe he'd make the same argument, this time about atheists. Hey - that's too close to home. Remember the religious talk we had in here a few weeks ago? Let's not revise history: some of you DID get hot under the collar when it the focus was on YOUR own personal beliefs. And that's why I hate this crap. Because it's always nice and okay, UNTIL IT AFFECTS YOU. THEN you're insulted. Then you're outraged. I could come into this CR and give you a post filled with jokes and smartass remarks about retards, hookers, and junkies (I practically do that anyway), and some of you might find it amusing. But then maybe I'd slip a gay joke in there, and Bam! Oh, that's not funny, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I'm tired of it all. I'm tired of everyone wanting to be the victim. So, I respect Dennis Miller for what he said. NONE of you, and myself included, deserve to be treated with kid gloves. None of you (again, myself included) are above being made fun of, criticized, or being the brunt of jokes, about ANY part of your psychological / emotional / social / physical being. Nothing's sacred. Everything's up for grabs. We all have targets painted on our backs.

I'm sorry, some of you just take yourselves SO damn seriously. It's not always about YOU. Hate to tell you that.

So, at the risk of serious repercussions, I post the following quote from Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, who says it better than I could.

"There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on niggers, kikes, wops or greasers. Here, you are all equally worthless."

Semper Fi, good sir.

Sevarius "FMJ" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Monday, November 5, 2001 06:33:03 PM
IP: cache-2.lnh.md.webcache.rcn.net

i was planning for that post to be right above the one lynati made.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Monday, November 5, 2001 06:02:24 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

NOTE: anyone who has AIM is welcome to join in a Chat there... IM me (FaileasDreugan) and i'll invite you.... please come... tis fun!

as to the rest of the stuff going on in here... I'm going to stay lurked, i'm not gay, I'm getting married, and I have no issues with people... (except josh, and since that's mutual we needednt go there... tis too much fun to change anyway ;)...............)

latersa!
Aingeal
Monday, November 5, 2001 06:01:56 PM
IP: 207.42.162.182

uh, thanks?
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Monday, November 5, 2001 06:01:12 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

*comes out of lurking for a moment*

Gay Issue> I would like to give myself a dollar everytime I hear someone in my school say "You Fag" or "Thats so gay" Being a lesbian myself, its really painful when I hear people talk like this. Its also discouraging because in a time like this, peace in diversity and unity should be happening. MTV in all its mightines definetly does still sterotype G/L/T people. People are not always either feminite or butch.. some people can be gay and you wouldnt even know.. It would be nice someday to walk down the hallway with my signifigant other without any odd stares or distasteful slurs being thrown at us....
Well, I could go on and on about it, but I wont.

*turns lurk button back on*
bronx - [bronxwyvern4@aol.com]
Monday, November 5, 2001 05:56:50 PM
IP: ac9f7215.ipt.aol.com

*brushes aside the fabric gate and enters*
oo? *cracks knuckles*

<The first time i ever posted here, i wanted to be friends with everyone. i wanted to be everyones bitch.>
Okay, do you know what you just actually said? Or are you using a term that you don’t understand the real meaning of as slang again?
<you could of asked me to do anything and i would have done it.>
Oh. Maybe you did. Geez, where is Shinigami to comment when you need her?
<now, i see that people have got to hate me and what not.>
Who said they hated you? I don’t recall anyone saying that. I know I didn’t.

<lynati- thats the first time ive been called a moron since, like, ever. maybe YOU should come up with better insults.>
Oh, I have better insults. But I, unlike you, try to say what I actually mean, and I chose “moron” because it was the most fitting word there was to state my current opinion of you. I wasn’t saying it for the sole purpose of being insulting.
...Besides, this is still a PG-13 room.

Yes, actually. I over-explain myself way too much. Although, I *am* trying to cut back.
<are you the authority on them? do you hear alot of em?>
What, do you mean insults? I’m having a little trouble following your grammar. It might be worth it for you to invest in spellchecker; people take you more seriously if it appears you put effort into your appearance, be it online or in RL.
Not since I left The Social Morass of He-...err, I mean “middle school”, no. I just read a lot of Jhonen Vasquez; I get my insult overload right there.
<listen lynati, you want an apology? you got it.>
Apology for what? It’s not your fault society has conditioned you to believe everything that MTV tells you. If I had the same reason for being upset as metaldemon does, maybe I would.


No. It was precisely BECAUSE you were not trying to be insulting that I got upset. If you had been using it as an insult, I wouldn’t have responded. I would have decided right then and there that you weren’t worth talking to. It’s because you used it in a negative context without pausing to think whether or not it was appropriate. Other people do it, so you do it.


You’re entitled to your own opinion. But for the record, it wasn’t just this one event that led me to this conclusion.

<Oh, by the way, you dont care if people in my area use certain words? i really dont care whether you care or not. dont like the stuff i say?> and yet, you care enough TO ask.
<ill stop it, im not an a$$hole>
I know your not an a$$hole. You seem like a pretty sweet person, actually. I just think you are a moron. Don’t sweat it too much; I’m sure a lot of people think I’m a moron. It’s just one person’s opinion.
<and i do care about your feelings, but i dont care about how you think i should act. i think its ridiculus that you waste all that time getting angry about something so trivial.>
It’s not the event; it is what it represents.
<really. has it really affected you that much. w/e. oh, i do have a brain. im in all ap courses>
Good luck on those; esp. the tests. They are worth it, tho; gives you room to maneuver your scheduling in college. But it wasn’t your academic intelligence I was referring to.
<and the like, i know that you dont care cause your so damn cool>
Aww, he thinks I’m cool! I feel special! ...No; wait. He was just being sarcastic. *sigh *

< but i thought id let you know. im sick of trying to be friends with people who are always worried about themselves.>
I’m not worried about myself. I’m worried about you and your- excuse me, OUR- entire generation. We talk and talk and don’t even know what we are saying half the time.

once again...Who the <> said anything about hating you?

Val: I abhor your insult to the stereotypical gypsy culture! : P : P : P <--(note the sarcasm.) But “lame” already implies ineptness, and in gypsy culture it is perfectly acceptable to take from the gejo if they aren’t smart enough to keep it; whereas it has already been pointed out, “gay” has no connotations of negativity. Or didn’t, until very very recently. Hey, is lain still online? I haven’t seen her around in a while.

Aaro: ooo, guess who *I'M* chatting in a group with? (My god, if we pull it off at the next G, she's gonna die...)

*out*
Lynati
Monday, November 5, 2001 05:23:56 PM
IP: kcx-ks18a-191.rasserver.net

Patrick- LMFAO. "that is so hetero" lol. thats a great one. oh , wait a second, im on probation here so i cant laugh much at the wrong thing. LOL.

Tim- you have MANY good points. you make your arugement really, really well. i need to learn from you.

Mooncat- THANK YOU! see guys? im not the only one here who has heard it used in slang.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Monday, November 5, 2001 05:15:16 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

D'oh... forgot the G2K pic link I promised!

:: adds it here ::

That's me on the left... the one without wings. And yes, I got some prejudiced flack for my costume afterward... but that only made me want to wear it again the next year. ;)

Okay... that and I was too danged busy helping run G2001 to come up with a new costume. >:)

:: scampers out again ::
Patrick Toman
Monday, November 5, 2001 05:12:31 PM
IP: acaee2b1.ipt.aol.com

Mooncat >> "Patrick -- Wooing first, wedding later *^_~* <<

So do you mean wooing as in whenever you walk into a room, I go "Woooooo!" like Ric Flair, or wooing as in massages and foot rubs and hand feeding you sushi while you recline on a couch and other such things like that? ;)

>> Well, not many tights in my harem clothes section, but if we go to the SCA/RenFaire part of the closet, which is back a row and to the left. I will wager we should find something that will show off your legs. *^_^* Mmmm... I do like a man with good legs! <<

Crzy and Eden still talk about my legs... ever since G2K it seems they can't get enough. I wonder if it had something to do with my costume... ;) :: posts a pic link ::

>> All virtual wardrobe items you choose are yours for keeps *^_^* I'm really generous that way. As for exploring, I'm alway up for fun and games in Mooncat's closet. *ewg* <<

Hey... I think I remember a fanfic where the fun started out that way. ;)

:: peeks into the SCA/Renfaire part of the closet, admiring the selection, while wondering what a member of the harem has to do to get Mooncat to un-hide the dungeon toys ::

Hmm? Oh yeah... other comments....

Reproduction debate > Several of you seem to be arguing under the mistaken assumption that orgasm = insemination each and every time a male has intercourse with a female. At least that's what your math would indicate. From a biological perspective, Mooncat is dead on right. One lone female with a dozen males at her disposal is very much more likely to experience a successful conception than one male trying to take care of a dozen females. Even if he is trying only once per night (for what good one day's rest does), he is still less likely to successfully past on his genes than the female. And in the game of reproduction, THAT is what the ultimate goal is - to put YOUR genes into pool before the other guy can.

DPH > Maybe it's just me, but even understanding your sense of humor, I still wouldn't consider mailing white powder to someone to be a good practical joke. No more than getting onto an airplane and screaming "I'm a hijacker," no matter how fast you add "just kidding!"

Re: slang words > ** Sarcasm Alert ** Hey, why don't we start some new slang... "That's so hetero!" Gee, I bet that wouldn't catch on and last long, would it? Okay... then how about we bring back some classics from my childhood in the 80s. "Grody to the max!" "That's bogus, man!" or even "Gag me with a spoon." ;P

:: wanders off to work on fanfic ::
Patrick Toman
Monday, November 5, 2001 05:06:43 PM
IP: acaee2b1.ipt.aol.com

Well... foo. My last post didn't have a picture or my text color, or even my sig. Fortunately I usually sign my posts in the post itself regardless... sigh.

Anyhoo... "Gay" as a negative word. The main problem I have is with using "Gay" as a negative word, is that the reason it's considered negative is because it's relating being HOMOSEXUAL as negative, and is *not* just a slang for bad.

The dictionary use of Gay means happy and light hearted. The word Gay became associated with homosexuals because of the stereotypical giddy qualities some gay men have. Gay as another slang term for something being negative /unpopular / undesireable is directly based on equating it with the prejudicial undesireablity of homosexuality.

When people say "that's so gay" they aren't reacting towards something with happy and giddy feelings, they are reacting to it with prejudicial disdain. And that mainly is why I have a problem with using the term "Gay", which is prominently used as a term for Homosexual, as a negative slang word. If we started using the term "caucasion" or "christian" instead of "gay" as the new slang term showing disdain, perhaps the general public wouldn't be so flip about it.

I hear children using the word gay in the slang way all the time. And yes, I think it's constant casual use as a derrogative influences young (and the not so young but simple minded) into thinking of homosexuals in a derrogative way.

Just some thoughts
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, November 5, 2001 03:55:25 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Entity: Do not put words in my mouth. I did not condone homophobia. There was no propaganda in my post. I simply stated that stereotypes exist because there are people who live up to them. Understood?
Tim
Monday, November 5, 2001 03:28:52 PM
IP: wsc003.wsc.edu

Tim> The stereotypes fit? Of course they do. Stereotypes exist because they are statistically sound. It's the mere fact that the mean isn't representative of 100% of a population.

Because stereotypes are more real than you thought, homophobia is condonable? Hitler based his persecution of Jews on certain stereotypes which, if true, still didn't condone anything. Propoganda is merely a weapon, not an argument.
Entity
Monday, November 5, 2001 03:08:42 PM
IP: dhcp112-186.onu.edu

one more thing...

spacebabie: Terrky and Nukes>>>Um this isn’t a chat room, please don’t hog the CR with your tennis style postings>

hog? does that mean that there is a limited amout of posts that can be posted in a week er what???

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky
Monday, November 5, 2001 02:27:18 PM
IP: a020-0709.kscy.splitrock.net

hey everyone...

spacebabie: <Terrky and Nukes>>>Um this isn’t a chat room, please don’t hog the CR with your tennis style postings>

O.o, just because we communitcate, and/or reply to eachothers postings alot, doesn't mean we use the CR as a Chat room...

anyway... not alot to talk about.

see everyone later.

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Monday, November 5, 2001 02:25:47 PM
IP: a020-0709.kscy.splitrock.net

Metaldemon: I stated in My earlier post that my experiences at college may not fairly represent the rest of the world.

And I Certainly did not lump you into any stereotype. YOU were the one who assumed that. I was stating that stereotypes exist becuase enforce them. If you dount want to be associated withe drag queens and effeminate men, dont hang around them. Start criticizing thoes who act that way. THAT is why I'm concerned about how civil rights activist present themselves on Mtv or other media outlit.

I'm reminded of what Dennis Miller once said. I know there's some reflexively irate homosexual in the CR thinking, "How dare you, Miss Thing?" And what I'm saying to you is this: I think so little of the variations in human sexuality that I refuse to treat you like a Fabergè egg. Come, join in our reindeer games. You too can be poked fun at and criticized.

<<At least you don't have to wait a life-time before you are able to walk down a street hand-in-hand with your same-sex partner without being called a fag. >> Gee, You have it Soooo rough. After all, what could a white trash, tornado bait, cracker like me understand what it's like to be degraded and ostracized. Blacks think I'm oppressive and physically inadequate. Feminist think I'm a chauvinistic pig who thinks that wome are sexual chattel, and gays think I'm insensitive and overly macho. So if you think you have an axe to grind, I'm friggin Paul Bunyun.

<<Am I to call you a redneck because you're fighting for your right to own a gun? No.>> Not in the open, anyway. ;) Actually you bring up an interesting point.

During the late 80's and early 90's, The National Rifle Association experience a serious public image problem. Much of the general population regarded the NRA as a militant gun club for radical anti-government rednecks and white male ultra-conservatives. (Which is Ironic since Gun-rights advocacy is a liberal concept.) The NRA checked the demographics of it's members and found out that many of these generalizations were often true. In response, the NRA reworked it's public image to appeal to minorities, women, moderates, pro-gun democrats and gun owning proffesionals such as doctors, lawyers, teachers and CEO's. This new approach helped the NRA grow by about one million members in the two years prior to the 2000 Election.
Tim
Monday, November 5, 2001 01:54:22 PM
IP: wsc003.wsc.edu

i think gunjack said it best when he explained that there were only 2 ways to survive in this comment room. that is (credit gunjack)
1. never to get seriously invovled in any of the discussions or topics.
2. have total and utter disregard for anyone elses opinion.

i orginally wanted to maintain myself at no.1, but it seems that i got myself screwed.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Monday, November 5, 2001 01:42:12 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

The first time i ever posted here, i wanted to be friends with everyone. i wanted to be everyones bitch. you could of asked me to do anything and i would have done it. now, i see that people have got to hate me and what not. oh well, i tried.

lynati- thats the first time ive been called a moron since, like, ever. maybe YOU should come up with better insults. i dont know, do you have a constant need to defend yourself? are you the authority on them? do you hear alot of em? i dont know, dont care much either. besides, i wasnt trying to insult anyone, i was using a "inappropriate adjective". although you could argue that i was offending metaldemon, but i wasnt trying to, i didnt even know who "he" was until i made that statement. listen lynati, you want an apology>? you got it.

I am sorry, lynati,for being a "moron." i wasnt trying to insult anyone though, i think you misunderstood.

I am sorry metaldemon for offending you in any way. i have nothing against you. if you want to tell at me some more, you are entitled to it, but i dont see how i should be punished for something that YOU deciding should be considered offending and not everyone else. anyway, im sorry i hope we can still be friends.

I am sorry i will never use that word again. but i do think that you all overreacted.

Oh, by the way, you dont care if people in my area use certain words? i really dont care whether you care or not. dont like the stuff i say? ill stop it, im not an a$$hole, and i do care about your feelings, but i dont care about how you think i should act. i think its ridiculus that you waste all that time getting angry about something so trivial. really. has it really affected you that much. w/e. oh, i do have a brain. im in all ap courses and the like, i know that you dont care cause your so damn cool, but i thought id let you know. im sick of trying to be friends with people who are always worried about themselves. i still wanna be your friend though. im not even mad. angry, anything. im only happy when it rains, and its raining right now.

tim- yeah i agree with you, but i dont want to make any enemies (yet). lol. thnx for backing me (if you had that in mind). its great to see that there are a great variaty of people in here. oh about your uncle, damn thats funny. gay people calling gay people faggots. rofl.

metaldemon- sorry for pissing you off. i didnt even know who you were till i made that "mistake". people in my school say all sorts of weird sh!t, so excuse me. but it was up to you to take offense to it. anway, sorry.

Lady mystic- i know what the word means. trust me. i was using it in slang. lol. you sound like my english teacher. your so factual and are ready to back up anything you say with evidence. your like my math teacher too. lmfao. were you ever a teacher?

josh- i was gonna type something but i stopped caring and i know you dont so its fruitless. ... go lynati? pfh. GO V!!!!!

V- GO V! damn that was sweet. thnx.

terkky k- oh paul? kewl.

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so, in the end, can you hate me? do what you want. i got worse things to worry about.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Monday, November 5, 2001 01:25:07 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

Spacebabie><<Uh I hope your not serious because I find your post funny.>> Thaaaaaaaat's kinda the point. Think of it as a pearl of idiocy with that annoying little grain of truth buried somewhere in the center...

I like big eyes and I cannot lie!
You other gamers can't deny!
That when a girl's got guns and an itty-bitty waist
And those round eyes on her face, you get SPRUNG!
-Jun, "Baby Got Baka" v 1.0
V
Monday, November 5, 2001 12:09:38 PM
IP: 192.133.129.4

Hey everyone. I went home for the weekend so that's where I've been. As far as how I'm doing...well I talked to my ex a lot and that's always hard. But other than that I'm doing alright. I think I have the flu because I'm sneezing up a storm.
Spacebabie> Happy belated birthday!
Fleur> It does stand for something but I usually like to keep that to myself. I guess it does still hold true for me.
SOROW - [allison.abadie@mail.utexas.edu]
Monday, November 5, 2001 11:24:42 AM
IP: resnet-38-151.dorm.utexas.edu

Okay, I did nothing but watch movies this weekend and that includes no sleep, lucky me huh? Well the no sleep thing was actually not entirely my fault. A friend of mine did not want to go home becasue her parents were gone so I stayed in her room until the sun came up. The think she neglected to tell me is that she is a sleep walker who talks and when you try and wake her she thinks you are one of the monster in her dreams. Does not sound bad, well how about the fact that she is a kick boxer and is currently learning jujitsu (sp) Ah the things we learn the hard way. So I stayed up all night making sure she did not go anywhere or hurt anyone, especially me.
So now I have a watercolor I'll be doing all night, but I got to see, K-PAX, Monsters Inc., Shrek, along with other I had seen before, yes some in theaters, some on DVD. I sort of saw National Lampoons European Vacation at four in the morning and I finally realized how bad that movie actually is... but I love the christmas one.

Evil twin- the thought alone shakes the very foundation of the universe. ];)

Lynati- the only time you will hear me use strange words that should not exist is when I'm angry. I break out the bad southern lingo.

belated happy birthday Spacebabie

Yeah Razorbacks, good for you even though I don't really care.

Josh- I can usually stretch my laundry needs to about every two weeks. Gives me time to collect quarters because the dollar machine is always broke.

"How can you tell when someone has a chatter box for a kid, when the parent is walking through Wal-mart with his/her hand over the kid's mouth and they are STILL talking."
-Me-

Later

Revel - [Samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Monday, November 5, 2001 11:20:08 AM
IP: 129.120.255.222

Josh --<<No, because in most species males will compete / fight/ kill for a female's attention. One dead male and one injured male aren't gonna make very good bodyguards.>>

But we are talking strictly humans here, not "most species" -- and I've seen real life human girls have multiple boyfriends/sex parters, with no murders or crippling going on. I believe it's safe to say, in practical real world terms a woman can have more than one guy without it turning into a macho battle between the males. Yes, there are actual people living the polyamory lifestyle right now. And it works for them.

Josh said: <<Yes, in theory that's true, but only if the single female is having a number of children at once that is equal to the number of females used by the single man.>>

Your argument is flawed. The original topic was matings taking place in the same sexual encounter. In this, a woman with multiple male partners has an increased chance of becoming pregnant, and possibly producing multiple young. A single male with multiple female partners actually has diminishing chances of impregnanting them all, because of physical limitations of his ability to produce sperm during the same encounter.

Now if these types of matings are an ongoing theme, say a hundred matings in a ten week period. I propose that the woman can handle it far better than a man. Because frankly, unless he's the energizer bunny, that man is going to wear out.

Josh said -- <<A male with four women will DEFINITELY produce more children than a woman with four men, unless the woman has quintuplets EVERY TIME.>>

Again, your argument is skewed. You are assuming that every mating of your single man with four women (at the SAME TIME) will produce at least four children. I doubt your single man will be able to service all four women (produce sperm and get it into the womb) much less make babies in all of them in one shot.

And in the end, no matter how many babies your single male produces in a single mating with his four women (which is far more likely to be zero than 4), the woman with multiple men only has to catch once to prove the genetic survival benefit TO HER of having as many prime specimens of males to mate with as possible.

So, back to the argument on wether fantasy is based on basic genetic instinct, girls should be fantasizing about multiple guys in their bed far more than guys wanting multiple girls in their bed (at the same time) --- but, strangely enough, the two guys one girl fantasy seems to crop up mainly in... male porn.

Now I wonder, what does *that* mean?

Gside said <<Perhaps theoretically was the wrong word. The average of produced children of continuously reproducing FFM
groupings should be approximately twice the average of produced children of continuously reproducing FMM groupings, as the sample size approaches infinity. >>

Um... cough, cough. The closer you approach infinity, the less your numbers hold up. Twice infinity is still... infinity. In infinate numbers, all things are equal.

Or is that all things are possible? An infinate number of monkeys typing on an infinate number of type writers for an infinate amount of time will eventually produce the scripts of the 4th, 5th, ad infinitum number of seasons of Gargoyles. Kewl thought, no?

<<You're trying to reverse an implication, which cannot be done. I used the biconditional if and only if.>>

Ooo! Did I forget to say "Mother May I?" when I took a step? *^_~* -- Yes, I can reverse an implication. In fact, I did.

Gside's statement was "That's what I'm trying to say. The more beneficial something is to your genetic survival, the more likely you'll like doing it"

To which I say, since when did Game Boy and the like become beneficial to genetic survival? *kitty cat chortles* >^,,^<

<<...but my genetic rivals are still more closely
related to me than lions, and if I get eaten by a lion, they'll still be around to pass on the 64th or whatever they share with me. That, and I'd still have the opportunity
to enjoy getting as many mates as I could. Should I survive the lion attack.>>

I have to ask. What does getting eaten by a lion have to do with genetic benefit? *suddenly the image of G-side and Lion passes through moonkitty's sensitive, and slightyl smutty imagination* Ooo!!! But, um... far as I know humans and lions can't breed and produce young >^@@^<

Okay, that just blasted this kitten's thought process. I'm going back to finishing my latest fan fic. Which, as chance would have it, is NOT about a girl and two guys. Or a guy with two girls. Though the current scene I'm working on does include Fox, Elisa, and Demona, and a beautiful ornate bath tub big enough to swim in. *^_~*

ciao for now
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Anonymous
Monday, November 5, 2001 10:55:19 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Not too much happened yesterday except for my brother hogging the damn computer.

Well I received the rest of my gifts Saturday night.
The New Bush CD(I have been a fan since Sixteen Stone)
The How to draw manga art book.
Knee and elbow pads, for my roller sneakers.
And I will be getting my Fushigi Yugi box set and I’m subscribed to Animerica.

Congrats to the Diamond Backs.

Speaking of baseball the better not get rid of the Marlins.
Florida needs a baseball team and they won a world series for crying out loud.

I wont be able to see the Buffy musical till Saturday, UPN will be airing a basketball game instead on Tuesday.

EMMY SPOILERS

Big whoop and I say that sarcastically. Ellen was not funny except for that one Bin Laden joke
The montages did tug at the heart strings, and one actress edid mention David Angell in her thank you speech, but other than that fact it was mostly the over rated shows winning statues. Jeez I’m surprised that the Sopranos didn’t hog all the best writing for a drama series. I know I’m glad West Wing didn’t win either but WE all Know that the true deserver of the award CoughJossWhedoncough wasn’t even nominated.

Terrky and Nukes>>>Um this isn’t a chat room, please don’t hog the CR with your tennis style postings.

Firestorm>>> Even worse “Hey guys I just saw an add on Toon Disney saying that new episodes of Gargoyles will be starting in December” Dude if anyone ever does that I will personally hunt them down and force them to kiss Janet Reno.hat new episodes of Gargoyles will be starting in December!"
That's pretty bad, isn't it? ;)
Josh>>> YES! THE WORLD SERIES IS OVER! NO MORE BASEBALL INTERRUPTING MY STARGATE!>>>> Here here, Testify

V>>>Uh I hope your not serious because I find your post funny.

And as for the Gay sterotype, remember for every Jack there are five Wills.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Monday, November 5, 2001 09:04:04 AM
IP: 1cust56.tnt1.orl3.da.uu.net

Josh - ... and you know this ... how? <You're just using that as validation to sleep with Greg Weisman, aren't you?> I need validation?? Damn, I was just going to offer Beth substantial amounts of cash! Another evil plan foiled! :P

Mooncat - <Ah, I always wanted to be an Evil Twin >^,,^< > It's about time someone else got to be the evil one! :) ... and I am not TOUCHING this reproduction topic... (..says the mother of 4 kids) O.O
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Monday, November 5, 2001 08:44:24 AM
IP: 1cust88.tnt1.santa-paula.ca.da.uu.net

Imzadi><<...it just sounds so...lame>> How dare you, sir. Not only do you use a term considered insensitive by the physically-impaired, but then you add insult to injury by attaching meanings such as "stupid", "boring" and "makes no sense" to a physical description. Are you trying to imply that the physically-disadvantaged among us are killjoys? That they're a drag? Because that's what it looks like from here.
I expected better from you, Josh. I really did. I feel...
...
Gyped.
V
Monday, November 5, 2001 08:11:39 AM
IP: 192.133.129.4

*********************GAY RANT*******************************
TIM> Wow, Tim. Thanks for lumping me into your epiphany that, because they showed it on MTV and because every homosexual at your college fits the stereotype, I, too, am feminine, limp-wristed, and cross-dress. Why didn't I realize this?
This is precisely why I pick the most miniscule of battles: because they often entail poeple who believe that gay stereotypes are purely true. Am I to call you a redneck because you're fighting for your right to own a gun? No. Just because a bunch guys from the hill country want to protect their rights to own a gun doesn't mean I immediatley generalize every gun-advocate to be red-neck. But, dammnit, they show on TV so it must true! Whatever.
And what right are you fighting for? Oh, no; you have to wait a week before you get a gun. That can only mean guns will be taken away form us. At least you don't have to wait a life-time before you are able to walk down a street hand-in-hand with your same-sex partner without being called a fag.
Get over myself? And do what? Let the word "gay" be used to denote something stupid and ridiculous while I stand there and think "Oh, I should just get over myself." Sorry, bud. Who and what I am is not something to be used to denote something as stupid.
***********************END GAY RANT*************************
Metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Monday, November 5, 2001 08:00:52 AM
IP: 129.120.255.222

Yay, Diamondbacks!! I loves to root for the underdog.

Firestorm>>
re: wrist>> The carpal tunnel is chronic and comes and goes. At the moment, unfortunately, my CTS has been aggravated from having to jerk my 6-year-old back onto the curb when he started to bolt out in front of an oncoming car. (Somewhere in small boy logic, it was more important to beat his brother to the van than to look for traffic -- go fig.) Something went pop between my wrist and elbow so for the last week or so, my hands have felt like they're full of broken glass. Hopefully, when I have all the last minute @#@$! illos (never fails, you think you're done and the art director finds he needs just a few more pics....) done, I can have a doctor look at it.

Which is why I save my hands to do what must be done, and only post when I feel I have something worth saying. I will say, however, that I do check this room often and when I'm having a really rotten day and my hands are aching, the conversations in here can really cheer me up. Just consider me that quiet person in the corner....
Spike
Monday, November 5, 2001 07:22:59 AM
IP: adsl-64-216-237-218.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net

*glances in*

Tim: Me, he just pissed off. Or maybe I just reaallly don't like eminem, and people who blindly follow his socially retarded behavoirisms. (Him, or anyone else the media- and thus everyone who can't think for themselves- worships.)

Imzadi: Thanks. at least ~someone~ here has shown some appreciation for my attempts to grow a spine.

Emambu: *waves for whenever he tries to catch up.*

*To class*
Lynati "SOMEone found a nerve..." Kshudra
Monday, November 5, 2001 06:17:37 AM
IP: 205.184.191.118

***** TGS CR ANNOUNCEMENT *****

In his Weekly Update, Gorebash posted additional information concerning the s8 server swap, which may cause this board to be down for a while.

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Well it appears sometime soon (perhaps this week) s8.org will be moved to a new server several times more powerful than the one it is currently on. I look forward to this as the opportunity to finally develop the full web site system I've been mapping out over the past couple months. You may experience issues posting to the comment rooms or Ask Greg this week. If that happens it's most likely because the server change has happened however I have yet to get in and update all the CGI applications that handle those. You will also encounter some downtime of s8.org, perhaps as much as a few days if DNS updates take a while to propagate out. So should you encounter problems this week don't worry about it, s8.org will be back up soon.

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Go here for the original announcement: http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/update.html

***** END TGS CR ANNOUNCEMENT *****

Tim: NukesGoBoom stated what he thought was the definition of the word, "the adjective 'gay' is also used to describe something that is 'stupid' or something that makes 'no sense'." I knew this to be incorrect and thus posted a link to the correct definition of the word. (NOTE: The word isn't used as slang in my area so I didn't know about it's other meanings.) To clarify, I responded as a result of his incorrect definition, not from his misuse of the word or as a reaction from prejudice or stereotyping. There are others in this room that are more adept at handling that, and so I leave that job to them. If he had stated a definition to any word that I knew to be incorrect, "wire" for example, I would have done the same thing by linking to the correct definition. This was my only intention. Either you are looking too deeply into my actions, thus seeing something that isn't there, or I am not consciously aware of what you might claim to be my initial intention. Please email me if you wish to discuss this further.

Imzadi: <<What's wrong with your jaw?>>
He already mentioned that he has TMJ. Go here for more information: http://www.tmj.org/
If you were actually asking what his physical symptoms were... well, I'll let him describe them. ;)
<<what does FYF mean?>>
"For your fish"... used in place of FYI. I don't know where he got it from or if he made it up himself. He's been saying it long before he ever met me. FS, any additional info on this?
<<Will you stop dawdling already and make one?>>
He *does* have higher priorities at the moment. I'd say more but I've probably already said too much.
<<Is that LM's real name?>>
No. (Thankfully, because I'm not too fond of that name.) My legal first name starts with an S.
<>
Interesting.

Mooncat: <<Thanks also to Lady Mystic for the URL on fan fic chat boards.>>
You're welcome. :)

That's all for tonight. I'm going to bed. I apologize if I missed any replies.
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Monday, November 5, 2001 01:18:12 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

ugh. More studying today. Studying and laundry. And more studying. And somewhere in there I did math homework and ate some food.

And for some reason I couldn't sleep past noon...I think there's something wrong with me.

YES! THE WORLD SERIES IS OVER! NO MORE BASEBALL INTERRUPTING MY STARGATE!

Who cares who won?

Spot: <>: I bet. <<You'd be surprised what you find amusing when some greedy <deleted for the 'children'> university heaps financial stress on top of residual study stress>>: I know I'm really stressed out when I start laughing maniacally at 11PM about things that aren't funny or evil. <<You mean that _isn't_ normal attire for scientists?>>: Well, it is, but only in the lab. <<We couldn't possibly look _normal_>>: You don't. Unless normal was redefined while I slept last night. <<'Daddy is a test tube'>>: Kind of makes keep his ashes after cremation a trick. <<Which probably explains why everybody hates England too>>: As if we needed an explanation. <<say hi to your evil twin>>: I wish *I* had an evil twin. <<And you tell the boring buyers: they use it as a study>>: Yeah, studies in fluids, dynamics, and beams/rods. Just like this semester. <<That Josh would get lucky enough to be in a threesome>>: FS and Gside seem to think its well within my capabilities. They should smoke less crack. <<Phenominal guilt would settle permanently on my being if my high-priced education meant she couldn't do that>>: Its her fault for having you in the first place ;-) That's what I tell my parents. <<Lots and lots of spandex. And a body that looks good in it>>: That is SUCH a rare combination. <<you can get your revenge in june (july?) when you get your big holiday and I'm stuck at uni in the middle of winter>>: I thought you graduated? <>: Men's clothing? <<they're a problem if you want to be fashionable>>: Yeah right. Many things go in and out of style quickly, but every good clothing store has something for women with breasts. <<Sometimes I just walk right into these things>>: Sounds like the first line of a porn flick. <<Scientists only. Sorry>>: I'm an engineer, isn't that close enough? <<I'm really embarrased now. That was sitting on my computer, just patiently waiting for me to wake up and use it, but I didn't get a clue>>: LOL! Silly.

Patrick: <>: I hope you've got an insane machine. Apparently the hardware requirements for that are silly. <<Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater has never been considered good humor>>: Oh, its hysterical. Just not protected by the 1st Amendment. <<under the Christmas tree just like everyone else>>: I feel that statement is biased against Jews and Atheists. <<the thoughts are only as dirty as your own mind makes them>>: Well der! ;-)

Skippy: <<Just to amuse myself I replied to all just to see what will happen>>: How many skippy's are there?

DPH: <<Let me explain my sense of humor>>: If you have to explain it, its probably not funny.

Mooncat: <<And if she needs protection, wouldn't two or more protectors be better than one>>: No, because in most species males will compete/fight/kill for a female's attention. One dead male and one injured male aren't gonna make very good bodyguards. <<So "theoretically" a single woman with multiple male mates can have as many or more children as a single male with mulitple female mates>>: Yes, in theory that's true, but only if the single female is having a number of children at once that is equal to the number of females used by the single man. Statistically, that's next to impossible for a large set of females. A male with four women will DEFINITELY produce more children than a woman with four men, unless the woman has quintuplets EVERY TIME. <<But here we are>>: get into a god argument and it gets ugly. <<if you really like main lining drugs, that is beneficial to your genetic survival>>: If it gets you laid, then I guess it is. <<mmmm... massage>>: My thoughts exactly! Actually, I think getting a massage IS beneficial to my chances for survival/reproduction, because without it I'd be so stressed I'd probably kill myself. <<So do you believe killing/crippling your genetic rivals will be very satisfying and pleasurable?>>: I don't see why it can't be. <<Mmm... sushi. Very pleasurable. Not linked to my genetic survival though>>: I don't see why not. Protein is good for you.

FS: <<jaw problem>>: What's wrong with your jaw? <<my mouth may be stuck closed>>: I pity you. <<Tentacle Attack>>: That's terrible. <<CORPORATE LAWYERS!>>: How about Bill Gates? <<pleasing and impregnating are two different things>>: Sometimes. When trying to accomplish the latter, you *should* be interested in the former. <<NOW you tell me>>: Dude, I've been posting that quote since February. <<Now I have to get all the packaging remade>>: Nah, just keep doing what you're doing until it runs out, then order new ones. <<At least no one asks me what FYF means anymore>>: what does FYF mean? <<They were small and didn't appear to be spinning too fast>>: Okay so then I have no idea. <>: I know about a hundred nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers that would disagree with you. <<Anyway you want>>: Will you stop dawdling already and make one? <>: Is that LM's real name? <<What use are they as weapons>>: Despite not being able to penetrate skin, they blow up rocks real good! <<But fur is soft>>: Skin should be too. <<Now, how do we weed them out TOTALLY?>>: Anthrax in place of the field lines ;-) <<The OFF switch>>: Women have off switches!? <<Easy. In a box>>: I hide my junk in my room. <<Fast to boot, fast to crash>>: That's what gigahertz processors are for! <<new eps of Gargoyles will be starting in December>>: Maybe Greg forgot to tell us ;-) <<The CR is back up>>: A few hours late, dude.

Nukes: <>: You're assuming that I'm upset. You'd be wrong. I'm just trying to point out how silly that sounds. I remember my friends and I used to say that all the time...but seeing it typed...it just sounds so...lame (thought I was gonna say gay didn't you?). <,maybe YOU havnt been in school long enough or with the right people to understand that the adjective "gay" is also used to describe something that is "stupid" or something that makes "no sense">>: I'm a junior in college, thank you very much. I know what you mean to say and what the "lingo" is. Like I said, I used to use it myself. But grow up. <<l337 means "'leet" right? short for "elite">>: Yeah.

Metaldemon: <<describing something negative and stupid as "gay" can piss gay poeple such as myself off>>: Exactly. It doesn't annoy me, per se, but I can see how it would (and since we do HAVE gays in the fandom, it hardly seems like a good choice of words), and it seems to suggest a simple lack of class.

Lynati: <>: Go Lynati!

Todd: <<I've read recently the suggestion that the Internet Age equivalent of shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theatre is shouting "Virus!" in a crowded chat room>>: Not if its a chat room full of Mac users. Then its the equivalent of yelling "quick, don't think about polar bears!" ;-)

Yooper: Nice artwork. Very impressive for an undergrad. My drawings SUCK, so I use CAD for something that looks like that. Despite my class in engineering documentation, I just can't draw in persepective. Anyway, good analysis. I too, have exams and HW till next monday. I'll be posting though, cuz its my only break.

Gside: <<it explains why they also seem to look for the stupid ones>>: I don't think anything explains that. <>: She was the only one I could beat bison with. <<Well, you do study something there>>: Hellz yeah. Chicks. <>: You said before that you were confident I could pull it off. <<Life would have happened somewhere, we wouldn't really care if it was Earth or not>>: But we'd probably call it Earth anyway. <<You're trying to reverse an implication, which cannot be done. I used the biconditional if and only if>>: Gside takes off his glasses to reveal...LOGIC MAN! <<Should I survive the lion attack>>: Intact. <<I've been enjoying the antagonism between Alex Trebek and Sean Conner>>: SUCK IT TREBEK! They showed that as part of the preshow at Rocky last night. It was freakin hilarious. I love that sketch. <<And like most RPG worlds>>: Toroidal is so unoriginal. I created a mobius stripped world once ;-) <<With the light brown hair>>: Hell yeah.

Tim: <>: I don't think anyone else would agree with you. <<Every... single... one... was... true>>: Okay obviously you've never lived anywhere with a large resident gay population (college does NOT count). I'd say that about 15% of my friends are gay or lesbian, and the only time they can be picked out as such is when they're at RHPS wearing bright pink or similar "flaming" activity. Gay stereotypes are no more OR LESS true than southern stereotypes, jewish stereotypes, black stereotypes, or republican stereotypes. Its all percentages. <<If I were to use a *fraction* of the sort of racial generalizations and degradation that you see on BET and HBO, they would nail my sorry white ass to a cross and put a slap my picture on the front page of the Washington Post>>: Your point? <<It's something that all of us - regardless of race, gender, nationality, age, or sexual orientation - can benifit from>>: Until we start using the guns to kill people of different sexual orientations.

Every get that feeling that your brain is full? I've got it right now. I'm hitting the hay.

Ignorance is bliss...to the ignorant! To me, it's just plain annoying.
-Mr. Floppy, "Unhappily Ever After"

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, November 5, 2001 12:41:11 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-206.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Lady Mystic, Lynati, metaldemon: Oh, get over yourselves. I consider myself to be fairly progressive, but in a world of grave social injustices and inequalities, this chicken shit. You need to pick you battles. It's dumb little shit that is why otherwise open-minded people become so resentfull against gays.

I'm going to be totally honest folks, up through high school I though all those stereotypes about gays were unfair generalizations and over the top lies made up by religious radicals like Pat Robertson and bigots who wanted to degrade those who weren't like them.

Then College... BOOM!

Every... single... one... was... true. Everything from the limpwristed, the cross-dressing, the dykes, to the efFminnate Acting Gentlemen. Seriously, some are so, um, "extravagant" that the other gays beat the crap out of them.

Sometimes I look back at what my views on homosexuality used to be and what they are now and I Feel kinda sad. I'm thinking that maybe I'm being bitter or insecure. Maybe I've been corrupted by the sort of Intolerances that I despised my whole life. Maybe I shouldn't judge a group of people becuase of the microchosim of Wayne State. Then I feel that I've lost some of that innoccence and Idealism that I once had.

Then I change the channel an come across an Mtv News segment. A national gay rights organization was protesting the proliferation of unfair and ubsurd stereotypes on television by parading around dressed up as Judy Garland and lip synching to "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" followed up by heavyset women with butch haircuts riding motorcyles.

This summer in Omaha they had "Gay Rodeo." You know somthing has gone haywire when your gay democrat uncle calls them "the sorriest collection of geeks, freaks, and faggots I've seen."

[shrugs]

It's at this point that I think that maybe the cause of homophobia these days is a bit deeper than religious fundamentalism and social intolerance.

Oh, one more thing.

Metaldemon: <<Using the word "gay" in that sense is the same as using the n-word to denote black poeple, etc.>> If I were to use a *fraction* of the sort of racial generalizations and degradation that you see on BET and HBO, they would nail my sorry white ass to a cross and put a slap my picture on the front page of the Washington Post.

So in the meantime, I'm just going to stick to promoting gun rights. It's something that all of us - regardless of race, gender, nationality, age, or sexual orientation - can benifit from. :)
Tim
Sunday, November 4, 2001 11:21:55 PM
IP: wsc003.wsc.edu

Guess what, Warpmind. I've finished burning. All that's left is to get an envelope and ship the case.

Imzadi> <<If only she knew how we all run at the slightest hint of danger...oops did I just reveal a secret?>>: Not really, but it explains why they also seem to look for the stupid ones.
<<Whoa me too!>>: Nice. I have fond memories of going though many fights only using medium kick. And I wish they hadn't made her diagonal kick a charge move (the super version of which is just annoying on some versions).
<<Is it located in the same spot as every other woman's?>>: I'd imagine so.
<<You fool...what does that mean?>>: In assembly, you essentially do operations on 32 bit (or other size) registers. There is also the syscall command, which performs a variety of operations depending on which immediate (aka integer) you load into a certain register. Most of the syscall functions read or print data types from or to the console. You must put arguments in certain registers or retrieve data from certain registers. I accidentally told it to move data from an argument register insead of a return register. For further information, look for the SPIM documentation.

Fleur> <<And you tell the boring buyers: they use it as a study>>: Well, you do study something there.
<<That Josh would get lucky enough to be in a threesome>>: I didn't think that. I thought he would attempt it.
<<Yeah, but my mum wants to travel to the Northern Territory for her 50th birthday next year>>: Ah. At least Rutgers is cheap. And now my own mother will be taking classes here.

Terrky> <<what is 1337 talk anyway>>: To put it in english, it is the language used by leet haxorz when attempting any written communication. It features substitution of other characters or combinations of characters. Ergo, they are also known as 1337 |-|4><0|25.
Mooncat> <<Theoretically, anything is possible>>: Perhaps theoretically was the wrong word. The average of produced children of continuously reproducing FFM groupings should be approximately twice the average of produced children of continuously reproducing FMM groupings, as the sample size approaches infinity.
<<Statistically speaking the odds of life developing on a planet are so high, Earth statistically speaking shouldn't have any life on it>>: I like to think of it as the chance of choosing a planet as conducive to life as Earth from a random sampling are nigh zero. Life would have happened somewhere, we wouldn't really care if it was Earth or not.
<<if you really like main lining drugs, that is beneficial to your genetic survival?>>: Nah, something has found a way to mimic the chemicals produced from pleasure. You're trying to reverse an implication, which cannot be done. I used the biconditional if and only if.
<<So do you believe killing/crippling your genetic rivals will be very satisfying and pleasurable? It fits your theory>>: True, but my genetic rivals are still more closely related to me than lions, and if I get eaten by a lion, they'll still be around to pass on the 64th or whatever they share with me. That, and I'd still have the opportunity to enjoy getting as many mates as I could. Should I survive the lion attack.
<<But didn't you just link pleasure and genetic benefit?>>: Pleasure, yes. It many pleasure nerves were stimulated during the five imutes or whatever it lasted.

Fire Storm> <<the last good things on it were Waynes World and Deiter>>: I've been enjoying the antagonism between Alex Trebek and Sean Connery. "Come on, you pansy, let the people see my work"
<<dosn't it give you a headache reading that?>>: Depends on which dialect it is. Some are passable.
<<Cthulhu! Tentacle Attack!>>: I feel somewhat confidant that someone has already done a hentai doujinshi or movie along those lines.
<>: Sorry, but that's a bit hard to digitize, and would probably take up large amounts of space if you want the plum to taste anything like the real thing.
<<Toroidal? Like a doughnut?>>: And like most RPG worlds.
<<Oh, and it changed>>: Missed it on friday. And forgot to check back later.
<>: With the light brown hair?

NukesGoBoom> <>: The same way you're Anonymous if you don't type a name. Quite a few functions behave badly to null input.

And because it's been in the discussion, the new mp3 is Saturday in the Park, but Chicago.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, November 4, 2001 11:12:28 PM
IP: wc01-hill012-hill.rutgers.edu

YO! The CR is back up!

12:47AM 11/05/01
Fire Storm
Sunday, November 4, 2001 10:16:21 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Just popping in quick for a reply:

Josh>>As promised, here is my idea of the Eyrie's supporting structure. You or anybody else feel free to rip into it; I know I'm missing a lot. I'll be lurking, but won't have time to reply for a few days. I have exams and HW 'til about Wednesday.
Yooper
Hougton, MI
Sunday, November 4, 2001 09:59:01 PM
IP: jwprusi.resnet.mtu.edu

hey EVERYONE. sorry for the double post... accidentally hit enter.. i do that alot. lol

but anyway, i need to vent... my clubs aren't working again... BLEEEEEEEEEH!!!! i made a new one... i'll link it in my name... it'f for Paul McCartney. so any paul fans!, BUT, the pics aint gonna wrok.. i dun think anyway. bleh...

oh, well.

see everyone

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Sunday, November 4, 2001 09:29:56 PM
IP: a020-0958.kscy.splitrock.net

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Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Sunday, November 4, 2001 09:26:41 PM
IP: a020-0958.kscy.splitrock.net

Hey, How YOU Doin', New York?

Yankees...how ya doin? Yankees...how ya doin?

Sorry, that's a bit inside. Only NY folks probably are familiar with that song.

Arizona ruined it! They didn't follow the script! And I couldn't be happier!!!
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Sunday, November 4, 2001 09:21:38 PM
IP: 66-44-93-43.s551.tnt8.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com

DIAMONDBACKS WIN!!!!!!!! ARIZONA WINS THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!

(take that, Yankees) ;)

WOOO HOOO!!!!!! **dances off to celebrate, planting a huge kiss on Coyote and pulling him out with her**
Ravyn
Sunday, November 4, 2001 08:48:23 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

hey everyone. i'm saying everyone now, cause i hate saying all, i dunno why, but it annoys me when I say it... not other people, just me... thats odd no?

but anyway, i got me a Paul McCartney CD today! imma sooooo happy!! i'm listening to it now. its "Tripping the live fantastic" its really good so far.

i'm getting my guitar set up this week! that happy

i also found a really cool 12 string acoustic. i sat down and played it at mars... now i want it... lmao.

in other music stuff, i got the chords to "she loves you" today!!! but i can't play em till i get my guitar back. heehee

she loves you
yeah yeah yeah

*trails off singing*

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Sunday, November 4, 2001 08:46:22 PM
IP: a020-0607.kscy.splitrock.net

**LM takes a break from cleaning her house**

NukesGoBoom: No part the meaning of the word "gay" is synonymous with "stupid" or "no sense." Visit my name link for the definition of the word "gay." (And yes, I know you were probably using the word as slang.)

Everyone: TGS CR info pages and TGS website updates will be posted once I finish some household chores that have been neglected for way too long. :\

**returns to cleaning**
Lady Mystic
Sunday, November 4, 2001 07:03:38 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Todd: Or, even worse:
"HEY GUYS! I just saw a ad on Toon Disney that new episodes of Gargoyles will be starting in December!"
That's pretty bad, isn't it? ;)
FIre Storm
Sunday, November 4, 2001 06:50:28 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

I've read recently the suggestion that the Internet Age equivalent of shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theatre is shouting "Virus!" in a crowded chat room.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, November 4, 2001 06:47:53 PM
IP: sdn-ar-002mosloup269.dialsprint.net

*leans in, annoyed*

Nukes: You are a moron. Get better insults. No, I am not being sarcastic. Honestly, using that term as (derogatory) slang for something OTHER than it has come to mean is just crude; I don't care IF the other people in your school or generation do it. Or those stupid media icons. That shouldn't stop you from knowing and doing better. Grow a brain.

*out*
Lynati-the-ever-so-slightly-ticked
Sunday, November 4, 2001 06:47:52 PM
IP: 207.221.70.193

Nukes Go Boom> I think Josh pretty much understood what was being said, but that describing something negative and stupid as "gay" can piss gay poeple such as myself off...alot. I don't take kindly to passive agressive gay bashing. Using the word "gay" in that sense is the same as using the n-word to denote black poeple, etc.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Sunday, November 4, 2001 06:23:26 PM
IP: jpi2-075.dfw.tx.bbnow.net

what the hell? i clicked the color red for text color and the damn thing posts! i didnt type "..." either, it just did it by itself! wtf! anyway...

Terkky k- i just check my email, the only message i got from you was a while back, i didnt get anything new, my email is NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com. maybe i typed it wrong or something last post.

Josh- I think that wasting time and energy getting upset over something that is really trivial is gay. maybe YOU havnt been in school long enough or with the right people to understand that the adjective "gay" is also used to describe something that is "stupid" or something that makes "no sense" . l337 means "'leet" right? short for "elite"? cant remember.

Oh, by the way, my friend didnt use a osama mask for haloween. he used a fake beard and a turban along with white sheets.
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Sunday, November 4, 2001 05:24:28 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

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NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Sunday, November 4, 2001 05:19:54 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

Clarification: Ok, some people appear to think I need to get my jaw wired shut because of my wisdom teeth. I got to get my wisdom teeth ripped out before I can get surgery to fix my jaw problem (TMJ).
Now, if the wisdom teeth extraction takes too long to do, my mouth may be stuck closed and then I would need EMERGENCY TMJ surgery...
Which would suck.

Gside: 
Ah, the last good things on it were Waynes World and Deiter.
<You can't. Which is why they use it>
|<Ul! ;)
Man... it dosn't it give you a headache reading that?
<But do we really want them controlled?>
Hmmm... No. Although, it would make a interesting Pokemon.
Misty: "Oh come on! PLEASE Ash?"
Ash: **Sigh** "Ok, just this once. Cthulhu! Tentacle Attack!"
Misty: **SQUEAL** "Oh, THANK YOU Ash!"
<So get your own heart, don't rely on baby Cthulu>
OH, very well. Now, where is someone who has a heart but dosn't need or use it...
CORPORATE LAWYERS! YEAH!
Hmm... although, I doubt they are any good. Darn.
<Any requests?>
Yes. I would like a single plum floating in perfume in a mans hat.
<Are the music videos any good? I can't fit any Trigun. And yes, that is plural videos>
Hadn't had a chance to see them yet. Work and all.
<But that's the wrong direction, and it's more toroidal stretching>
Yeah... BUT it is great for back problems.
Toroidal? Like a doughnut? ;)
<Have you seen what's been in the html title of Exploitation Now for the last while?>
Bah! Everyone knows that!
Oh, and it changed.

Mooncat: 
I am not so sure. I mean, unless it is just so ingrained in global society, which is possible, I believe that it is biologicailly in us. For what reasons, I don't know, but men in so many cultures find this idea good that it may be more than just culture. It is probally biological for the reason of the male seeing more than one woman willing to give herself sexually causes the male to at least believe that he can impregnate both of them.
<as most guys can barely service ONE female satisfactorily>
Pleasing and impregnating are two different things.

Imzadi: <Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken>
Oh great. NOW you tell me! And I have been doing that to people all the time, calling them chickens, slaughtering them and selling the meat as chicken.
Now I have to get all the packaging remade.
<You guys didn't have any trouble with MY name, and even Riker screwed it up the first time>
Spelling is one thing. Saying is another. And meaning...
<Um...wtf does that mean exactly?>
Thats it. That is gonna be the next FAQ on my site.
At least no one asks me what FYF means anymore.
<Even the different lottery numbers of every different fortune cookie?>
Somewhere and some time, those numbers did, or will, win the lotto.
<They were. They'd need to be much bigger.>
But they were small and didn't appear to be spinning too fast.
<Onboard plant, I'm guessing>
I doubt it would work in the real world... at least with standard tech.
<Boing...boing...boing...>
Hmm... her on a trampoline would work in Music class too
<Oh dear>
Say a normal thing to a sick mind, get a sick anwser.
<You're an illogical irrational person?>
Yes. ;)
<Depends on how I have to get her to release it>
Anyway you want.

They what use are they as weapons? Cardboard armor is effective against it!
<dream of hijacking Apple headquarters>
I dream of Jeanie
<Maybe your imagination just isn't vivid enough in that area. I blame...nevermind>
Oh, my imagination is fine... visually anyway... and audio... and touch... taste...
Mmmm... crunching rib cages...
<Its tough to do without getting repetitive>
VERY true. But I really don't care about repeditive. As long as it sounds ok.
<is that a compliment?>
Depends. Either they are smart or we are stupid.
Pick one.

But fur is soft! ;)
Fur is murder, meat is murder, and murder can taste VERY good!

It's not the size of the nose that matters, it's whats in it that counts.
<If they were, then why was she giving them away?>
So they can please her. Or her friends. Because a pleased school is a happy school.
<It has. They become football players>
Now, how do we weed them out TOTALLY?
<If you have a desire to mount it, you'd better know by now how to already do that>
I am suddenly reminded of Sexy Losers...
<the rack or two men?>
Rack. Definately the rack. She didn't say the special word for me to stop.
Of course, I never told her the word... I really didn't like her.
<Even if they did, stupid people would still keep asking.>
Better yet, throw in a random date generator.
<You forget that the biological point of sex IS NOT FEMALE PLEASURE>
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLETS GET READY TO RRRRRRRRRRRRRUMBLE!
In a STRICTLY biological sense, that is true. And the same can be said for male pleasure. The point is reproduction.
The pleasure part of it is biological, in it gives us insentive to actually do it. PLUS the orgasm of both people creates temporary biological changes and events to occur (Male ejaculation, female uterus contractions (You should see the videos on the discovery channel. The cervix contrats and sucks up the pool of sperm like a vacuum.))
<Is it located in the same spot as every other woman's?>
The OFF switch? ;)

Niamhgold: <And, frankly...I'm not going to bring feminism into this room>
Good idea. At this point, we are simply talking about the biological part of it.

Christine: <LOL, wasn't that quote taken ranther out of context?>
TOTALLY out of context!
<As I recall, that was from Hyena watching Battlebots in Bad Girls!>
Yep! Thats where I stole... er... BORROWED it from.
<Okay, for her it was porn, but construing it as _gay_ porn is sort of a stretch ...>
BUT if you look at it, it is possible to see that in a gay context. Ask her how she looked at it!

Coyote: <MSU WINS!>
Once I heard of that, I knew you would cheer!

Jan: <The birds are flying freely thru out the first section of the museum>
Hmm... note to self... Plan nightmares accordingly.
<“I am Fire Storm, not Firestorm.” *giggles*>
Well, if you want to take the simple approach...

SJ: <start asking questions about where Zafiro hides his junk.>
Easy. In a box.

Patrick: 
Fast to boot, fast to crash! ;)
Home version?
<the thoughts are only as dirty as your own mind makes them.>
The nice way of saying: "I only said it! You thought it! It's your fault, not mine!"

Windows XP: Does the Professional version boot as fast as the home version?
Fire Storm
Sunday, November 4, 2001 02:58:02 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Patrick -- Wooing first, wedding later *^_~*

Well, not many tights in my harem clothes section, but if we go to the SCA/RenFaire part of the closet, which is back a row and to the left. I will wager we should find something that will show off your legs. *^_^* Mmmm... I do like a man with good legs!

All virtual wardrobe items you choose are yours for keeps *^_^* I'm really generous that way. As for exploring, I'm alway up for fun and games in Mooncat's closet. *ewg*

Crzy Demona -- Ah, I always wanted to be an Evil Twin >^,,^<

I promise not to wear out the Harem. *tries to look virtuous* Or at least to give advance warning if I do *blink, innocent blink* I will use the Harem ever so gently... *Mooncat quickly hides the dungeon toys*

Gside -- <<Mooncat said: The more selection a female has, the better the chance for her to get the superior gene stock>> <<Gside said: I feel it's more that once she makes a good choice, she'll want to keep it around for the future, and to protect her while encumbered.>>

And if a woman has more than one "good choice", then it should be even better for future "use". And if she needs protection, wouldn't two or more protectors be better than one?

<<Humans do not generally pop out kids every nine months>>: So you say after bringing in rarer occurrances like twins into the discussion. Yet, it's still theoretically twice the rate.

Theoretically, anything is possible. That is what a theory is, a conjecture of possibility. So "theoretically" a single woman with multiple male mates can have as many or more children as a single male with mulitple female mates.

If you mean statistically, then I think you should keep in mind the fallibility of statistics. Statistically, if we froze one half the planet (at 0 degrees) and crisped the other half (140 degrees), the medium temperture of the planet would a balmy 70s. Statistically speaking the odds of life developing on a planet are so high, Earth statistically speaking shouldn't have any life on it. But here we are.

<<Instinct can be a factor>>: That's what I'm trying to say. The more beneficial something is to your genetic survival, the more likely you'll like doing it.

Sooo... if you really like main lining drugs, that is beneficial to your genetic survival?

I'm going to have to argue that pleasure does NOT equal survival, genetic or otherwise, and what's best for your genetic survival does not equal pleasure. When the two coincide, kewl beans, but one doesn't mean the other.

The foods that are "good" for you often don't taste as pleasant as the ones that are "bad" for you. But eating "good" food means healthier children.

Spending all afternoon in a hot tub, or being given a full body shiatsu massage is extremely pleasurable, but not tied to my genetic survival in any way. **mmmm... massage...**

However, killing off or incapacitating your genetic competition links directly to the survival of your genes. So do you believe killing/crippling your genetic rivals will be very satisfying and pleasurable? It fits your theory.

<<as most guys can barely service ONE female satisfactorily>>: As long as they're serviced, satisfaction doesn't matter genetically.

But didn't you just link pleasure and genetic benefit? So if they don't like the sex with the male, under your theory it means it doesn't promote genetic survival.

And I mentioned before, it wasn't the pleasure principle I questioning, it was the physical ability of most men to impregnant/fertilize mulitple female partners during the same sexual encounter. The practical versus the statistical.
Okay, I got to scoot and grab some sushi. Mmm... sushi. Very pleasurable. Not linked to my genetic survival though. *^_~*

bye
Mooncat
Mooncat
Sunday, November 4, 2001 01:42:03 PM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

hey all...

Josh: <LOL maybe its just 1337speek and you can't tell> i know that i couldn't tell, because what is 1337 talk anyway...? lol
Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Sunday, November 4, 2001 01:39:26 PM
IP: a010-0717.kscy.splitrock.net

Let me explain my sense of humor. Yelling 'Fire' in a crowded building isn't funny. Scaring someone is funny as long as the act the scaring the person will not harm the person. If you are locking the doors up for a place and I scare you, that's ok. (Note: I have locked up my church before with security system and yes, I was looking for someone to sneak up on me during the entire time.) When I had dogs, I loved sneaking up on them while they were sleeping and just gently tapping on them. Of course, when I did that, I usually 5-6 minutes with the dog(s). I also think it's only fair that if you let your dog(s) ride in the back of truck on windy and bumpy roads at high speeds, someone does that to you.

So yes, I would play practical jokes as long I consider them harmless to the recipent. I am also a sound sleeper and I have had things happen to me while I was sleeping, but I don't consider those things to be in good taste.

Does this answer questions about my sense of humor?
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, November 4, 2001 01:19:07 PM
IP: max1-26.cwy.cei.net

hey all... not much goin on since last night...

hey nukes... i sent you a reply by e-mail.. did you ever get it? it doesn't matter, but i just wondered.

well, there isn't alot to post about...

so, i will be off!!!

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Eastern Kansas, US
Sunday, November 4, 2001 01:16:11 PM
IP: a020-1006.kscy.splitrock.net

Interseting thing I found in my inbox this morning....

I got this piece of spam from someone, some kind of offer for continuing college or something. What was weird was that the e-mail wasn't sent blind carbon copy to all of the recipients. So all of the hotmail addresses featuring skippy in the name were listed. Just to amuse myself I replied to all just to see what will happen :)

Still, pretty stupid of the spammers....
Skippy The Klingon
Sunday, November 4, 2001 12:23:40 PM
IP: ppp50.tele-base.net

I just installed Windows XP and boy does everything boot up FAST now. Weeeeeeee!

DPH > You've got an odd concept of "funny" going on there. Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater has never been considered good humor.

Mooncat > So do I get to keep the harem pants, or are these just on loan? And when do I get to see what else is in that closet? ;)

SJ > Actually, I already know where Zafiro keeps his package... under the Christmas tree just like everyone else.

Remember, everyone... the thoughts are only as dirty as your own mind makes them. ;)
Patrick Toman
Sunday, November 4, 2001 11:49:36 AM
IP: ac9a601d.ipt.aol.com

Okay, I couldn't escape being screwed (in the incredibly bad way), but maybe I'm not in the 'really screwed' catergory.
Tried speaking to the academic advisor - she was sick, so I ended up speaking to her pet flunky instead. They weren't nice. There's no options, other than scabbing from the Parental Units. It might not be too bad though - I've been eligable for Youth Allowance for a while now, but I haven't signed up because I didn't really need it. I work, it gets me enough to pay my bills, that's all I need. But now, well, I'll be signing up tomorrow. Yea me, I'm on Social Security. It's ironic, actually. The excuse the pet flunky gave me for this stupid rule is that the government hasn't given enough money to universities, so they have to limit the number of people on HECS, so now I'm going to be sucking money out of the government to pay my uni bill. And the funniest thing is, under HECS, I'd have paid back the government eventually, but this year, while they're still paying for my education, it's money they're never going to see again!
You'd be surprised what you find amusing when some greedy <deleted for the 'children'> university heaps financial stress on top of residual study stress.

*End boring Rant From Fleur*

Kyryn> >Congrats on finishing up your exams!< Thanks for reminding me of One Very Good Reason to be happy. :) *bounces*

Yooper> >I learned something last week that I think would be useful to all college students: before pulling an all-nighter to finish an assignment, make sure the assignment is actually due the next day.< *eyes widen* Oh... OWCH!!

NukesGoBoom> >OMFG! My friend Bobby is going as Osama Binladen for halloween!< You know, I remember hearing that Bin Laden masks were all the rage this year, along with Bush and Firefighter/rescue worker costumes. Similar to a couple of years ago, when Monica and Bill were popular.

Ravyn> >I am currently dressed up as a pirate, ready and waiting to hand out candy to the germ-ridden little things that come to my door ... no, not the mail. Kiddie trick-or-treaters! ;)< LOL!

Yggdrasil> >It’s amazing what a bit of gel; a lab coat, goggles and a good pair of industrial gloves can do for one's appearance.< *l* You mean that _isn't_ normal attire for scientists? Cos, you know, that's what we look like, isn't it? We couldn't possibly look _normal_. ;)

SOROW> >Question is: Do you think my handle is invalid and I should change it with the new me, or will I always be SOROW?< Sorry, I missed this last time. Wasn't it an acronym for something? Or is that just my dodgy brain cells misbehaving again? :)

Wilek> >Um. Is there something unsavory about the construction of dreadlocks that I'm not aware of? I thought they were just braids? O_o< Not quite. The kind I'm thinking are created by twisting and teasing innocent, inoffensive hair into tangled clumps, and then not washing it, for a couple of months at least. It's not a proper dreadlock until it's got bits of plantlife sticking out of it, and you can scrape the dirt off. >The only thing I know about my ancestors is that I have them, and frankly, I'm not 100% sure of that. I could very well be a genetic experiment gone awry.< *l* 'Daddy is a test tube'... :) >:P Maybe we could work out a regional pact or something...you get all but a week's worth of my sunny days, I get all but a week's worth of your grey days. ^_^< oooh! Where do I sign? :) >Hee...maybe we could stuff and mount the most interesting ones and use them as night lights.< *LOL!* Have I told you yet that I really like how your mind works? >Well England birthed the Teletubbies and the Spice Girls.< Which probably explains why everybody hates England too. ;) >I'd never eat a human brain. I might catch stupid from them.Is there anyone else who would love to see the Joker get his hands on the Eye of Odin?< Just when I think my brain didn't have any mental image it wouldn't shie away from, I'm proven wrong.

Robby> >Anyone in here want to have another Jim Noying party?< I missed this one too (thanks Wilek, for catching me up ;)). Sure, if the guy doesn't mind getting his home destroyed again. :) Actually, I think I've got a ficbit somewhere on my hard-drive that's set at one of those parties, written sometime in 98, I think. Read it a couple of weeks ago and got a major nostalgia hit. And say hi to your evil twin.

Traveller> >Ahhhh.... Halloween... and the first (nearly) full moon since about 1955 as well.< Oooh, interesting.

Gside> >They won't have to, since it's standard.< And you tell the boring buyers: they use it as a study :) >What was it that I thought? I may not have been serious.< That Josh would get lucky enough to be in a threesome. :) >I plan on sucking for as long as I can.< Yeah, but my mum wants to travel to the Northern Territory for her 50th birthday next year. Phenominal guilt would settle permanently on my being if my high-priced education meant she couldn't do that.

Daphne> >what does it take (short of actual powers) to be a superhero? anyone?< Judging from what I've seen: Spandex. Lots and lots of spandex. And a body that looks good in it. :) Although, that could be counted as a power.

Dark Prince of Vinyl> >You're right. I do, in fact, hate you.< Look at it this way, you can get your revenge in june (july?) when you get your big holiday and I'm stuck at uni in the middle of winter. >I am so jealous.< It was a relatively fun class, actually. veerry interesting. >I haven't either. Of course, it probably helps that i refuse to pull all-nighters, or even work past 11PM.< Latest I've gone to is 3am, and that was the only time I resorted to coffee. Never an all-nighter. >That sounds safe.< What is this... safe you speak of? ;) >No, we just think everyone else is nuts and we're normal.< Works for me, too. >Yes. Sorry.Uh huh. Aren't you a...woman? Doesn't that preclude you being a good driver? ;-)< :P And I never said I was a good driver, just conservative. >Better than "spot"?But does he enjoy it?< No, he just gets stressed. Poor, confused man. >I dunno, I wasn't paying attention.< *LOL* >Not gonna say it... < Sometimes I just walk right into these things... >Was there ever a doubt?< Only when somebody else gets greedy and it makes my life miserable. >Sounds good to me.< Scientists only. Sorry ;) >From his/mara's fics. Pest and Death are kick-ass characters.< Actually, Aaron was asking ME if it was from MY fics. >Like Microsoft Access? Or were you looking for something else?< I'm really embarrased now. That was sitting on my computer, just patiently waiting for me to wake up and use it, but I didn't get a clue. Thanks. I played around with it a bit today, and it looks like it might do the trick. >Just for the record: F*CK YOU!< Well, if it makes you feel better, I didn't do absolutely nothing after all. >And it doesn't like you mean the good way.< No, it wasn't. >In LA we wait till 24.< The parents have been incredibly understanding. A bit of role reversal actually. Normally, I'M the one saying soothing things and telling MUM not to worry while SHE panicked. >Don't worry, you'll make it work.< Thanks. I might try a bit of hell-raising, see where that gets me.

Skippy> >During the Doctor's Walter Mitty Epsiode there was a scene of the Doctor playing artist with Seven modeling for him< Is that the one with the little song routine at the start? 'Paris please find a way, to load a hypospray, I will give you the sign, just aim for his behind...'

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SPACEBABIE!!!

TTFN!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Sunday, November 4, 2001 07:31:17 AM
IP: proxy1.mel.pacific.net.au

ah, a lovely day of studying.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SPACEBABIE!

Went to RHPS tonight. Saw two cuties. Not gonna bother, those girls are dirty.

replies.

Baldy: <>: Hardly an excuse ;-)

Nukes: <>: Its called wasting air, and other people's attentions. <<There is no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people"-Me>>: You are SO not the first person to have said that. And its not true. There are stupid questions. I'm guessing you just haven't been in school long enough (or with the right people) to hear them. <<was english your second language?>>: LOL maybe its just 1337speek and you can't tell. <<thats just GAY>>: So you're saying that not liking someone because they don't like your taste in music is the quality of a homosexual? I see...no, no I don't. Could you explain that one to me?

Terrky: <<dun worry, imma keep postin all the damn song lyrics i want>>: Actually the problem isn't that they're annoying, the problem is that they waste space. You want to post lyrics, post a link to them instead. We've been over this several times in this CR before.

Just for the record, Patrick and Mooncat, the two chicks thing is not one of MY personal fantasies, in case you think I'm arguing for my own viewpoint.

Patrick: <<With an outlook like that, I wish you luck holding on to a steady girlfriend>>: Whoa there. I never said that was my particular outlook. <<I'd recommend studying some biology if you can work it into your class schedule>>: If I had the time, I'd be spending it pursuing women ;-) I wholly agree that its just as important to give and receive, and I'm actually familiar with the theory that the female orgasm improves the likelihood of successful procreation. But females can orgasm till their ears bleed, it doesn't improve the chance of procreation above 0% without a male orgasm in there somewhere ;-) <<I'm already in Crzy's but I don't think she'll mind sharing>>: I dunno, Crzy's pretty jealous ;-)

Mooncat: <<once a guy pops off, the likely hood he can service the 2nd woman during the SAME sexual encounter with the intention of Making Babies is very small>>: I pity those men. <<So saying instinct is behind a guy's fantasy to have multiple partners AT THE SAME TIME is what I doubt>>: Oh, okay. My bad. <<So saying the male fantasy of being with two girls at the same time is somehow more powerful, more acceptable, more "right" because it's based on biological instinct is still, IMHO, a load of hooey>>: Okay fine. I yield. <<two girls at the same time should be fairly common with you studly he-men types>>: You're assuming two things. One, that there are studly he-men types in the fandom. Second, you're assuming that these things only happen for guys that are built like porn stars, when I know for a fact this is not the case. My roommate is far from "studly", he's an overweight programmer. Yet he managed to manipulate this particular fantasy. Also, I think you're assuming that guys who don't have this fantasy don't bother. Although this isn't one of my fantasies, I'd go with two girls just to say I'd done it (although I guess I could say it anyway and you'd be none the wiser, but that's another argument, so let's say I haven't - since I haven't). And I think many other guys ar ethe same way.

The Wizard: <<I'm not going to bring feminism into this room>>: Thank you.

CrzyDemona: <<just ask my husband, I rent him out to needy women on the weekends.>>: You're just using that as validation to sleep with Greg Weisman, aren't you?

Christine: <<says something for the eternal optimism (or arrogance?) of the human male>>: I don't know about other guys, but I think its arrogance in my case. I'm never THAT optimistic ;-)

Jan: <<You seem to have this real hard on about advisory committees. You’ve made negative comments about it before>>: Um, no I haven't. You've confused me with SJ, probably. I don't have anything bad or good to say about advisory committees, just that no one makes a decision without one. <<Running this county is not a feat for ONE man to do>>: Then how the hell am I going to manage the entire planet? <<political rant>>: You gotta calm down. All I was saying was that clinton's lack of military service had ZERO to do with how he responded to terrorism, as you seemed to claim.The attitude of “I’m going to do it anyway” will only cause friction and for others to stop reading your posts. i.e. you will be ignored or chastised>>: Too bad we can't ban him. <<I’ve asked for the days off>>: I'd do that...if I knew where I was going to be in June ;-) <<I’m not used to living on such a tight budget!>>: Now you know what its like being a college student ;-) <>: On the discussion or the activities ;-) <<the first clue was in your previous post, “I am Fire Storm, not Firestorm>>: Damn, and I was sure that was SJ. <<the first post is to Josh>>: Got it. <<This is NOT a joke nor a situation to be joking around with>>: You law enforcement types have no sense of humor.

DPH: <>: Cleverly printed somewhere that would never been noticed. <<So that's how you get such short posts>>: Not exactly. <<checks and notices both of his hands are still attached to his body.>>: Now try touching it without permission IRL, instead of your silly little CR dimension.

SJ: <<start asking questions about where Zafiro hides his junk>>: In his pants, I'd imagine. Or, if he's really a snake, under a large scale in his belly. <<This isn't little league, where you have to let every retard on the team play an inning>>: LOL I remember that. <<the man's got a ego bigger than most planets>>: Pathetic. <<His ego is so large, that it does have its own gravitational pull>>: Skimpy. <<Perhaps if he had been a little less concerned with getting blown by a fat chick in the Oval Office>>: Once again, the male sex drive prevents anything IMPORTANT from being done.

Todd: <<she *definitely* needs some serious disciplining>>: Maybe someone should spank her. SJ? <<Cutting school in the latter part of Season Five>>: I cut school during Season 5 left and right. And I'm fine. <<Spike likes the Great Pumpkin Halloween special>>: He's got good taste, I'll give him that. Except for Harmony, who was REALLY obnoxious. <<it looks as if Xander's starting to have second thoughts about marrying Anya>>: I would. I mean, I know she's hot and all, but she *IS* a vengeance demon. Getting a fight could mean a lot worse than sleeping on the couch.

Spacebabie: <<Is it because he is a rpublican>>: It takes a really foolish soul to hate someone solely because of their political party...even with all the jokes I make about democrats. <<am I first>>: Happy bday.

Ravyn: Great Britain!? You guys have seriously shifting loyalties. I don't know that I can trust you with a country.

Gside: <<once she makes a good choice, she'll want to keep it around for the future, and to protect her while encumbered>>: If only she knew how we all run at the slightest hint of danger...oops did I just reveal a secret? <<As long as they're serviced, satisfaction doesn't matter genetically>>: Well according to Patrick there are "studies" that suggest otherwise. Of course, there are "studies" that show a correlation between kids who watch violent TV and violent behavior, but I think that's a bunch of hooey. <<Intro of Chun Li, my girl>>: Whoa me too! <<The magic button, mayhap>>: Is it located in the same spot as every other woman's? <>: Maybe its just a berkeley thing. <<In other news, Rutgers football lost 80-7 today>>: I believe Berkeley also got beaten in a score of similar magnitude. <>: 1 in 7? No way. <>: You fool...what does that mean?

Okay folks I'm tired. Its 3AM.

Therefore, I have conclusively proven that its faster to download 3.5 meg than to shove it up your ass, ignoring the time it takes to shove it up your ass.
-Mike Margolis

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, November 4, 2001 06:13:57 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-206.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Mooncat> <<The more selection a female has, the better the chance for her to get the superior gene stock>>: I feel it's more that once she makes a good choice, she'll want to keep it around for the future, and to protect her while encumbered.
<<Humans do not generally pop out kids every nine months>>: So you say after bringing in rarer occurrances like twins into the discussion. Yet, it's still theoretically twice the rate.
<<Instinct can be a factor>>: That's what I'm trying to say. The more beneficial something is to your genetic survival, the more likely you'll like doing it.
<<If guys want to rationalize the desire/fantasy to bang two girls at once as being "instinct" go for it>>: It's a pet theory of mine. Like the Canada/Dylan thing.
<<as most guys can barely service ONE female satisfactorily>>: As long as they're serviced, satisfaction doesn't matter genetically.

Imzadi> <<How do I get rumors spread like that about me?>>: Disappear. That, or leave your bloodied corpse in a public place.
<<SFII, the original, the best>>: Intro of Chun Li, my girl. Though my current most played CPS2 game is X Men Vs. Street Fighter.
<<wtf does that mean exactly?>>: Quote from a game maual, I believe. Something about dirty ashtrays.
<<Depends on how I have to get her to release it>>: The magic button, mayhap?
<>: I'd say the Puritans, myself.
<<You and water polo players>>: I haven't heard anything about sports getting a head start. All I know is that it goes by credits. In other news, Rutgers football lost 80-7 today.
<<Yuck. Link me. Nah, just kidding. Or am I?>>: I forget where I saw it, but you can find most anything from Anime Uncut.
<<Link me>>: Just look around for Darkstalkers, or even Darkstalkers hentai.
<<Not interested>>: You don't know what you're missing.
<>: As do I.
<<are you taking into account the probability of twins?>>: She mentioned it, so I tried. Not sure what the actual percentages might be. I once heard about one in seven, but that seems high.
<<My friend found a bug in his code the other day because he couldn't spell a freakin' function name>>: I got a bug in my assembly because I was taking the read_int syscall return out of the wrong register.

Warpmind> <<just the trip to the opthamologist is about 50$>>: Ah. I should be glad that mine's in the next town, than.

Niamhgold> <<I'm not going to bring feminism into this room>>: Thank you. I get enough from Douglas and LABIA.

Happy Birthday, Spacebabie.
<<the duck for my main course>>: I'm not quite sure how I stand on duck for consumption any more. I mean, I'm all for a wide variety of meats, but then...

Jan> <<Have you ever seen the SNL skit of “I just crapped my underpants panties” ?>>: Nope, but there's been a Celebrity Jeopary glut here recently. Everyone roots for Sean Connery.

SJ> <<All I need now is for someone to start professing their love of hermaphrodite porn>>: Too late.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, November 4, 2001 01:53:04 AM
IP: nat01-mccr-ext.rutgers.edu

NukesGoBoom... thanks fer telling me theres no tension... i hate it when i act like this... you know, the only fight i've ever had with my girlfriend in almost a whole year was about stuff like this... i get defensive, or snappy with out meaning to, but anyway, i'm glad there is no tension. it's so nice to have friends with common interests... espiecially in a subject like this... it was several weeks that i was reading before i even posted here... i din realize how many people came here.. its real cool, and i dun wanna get a bad reputation er anything.

but anyway.. stay cool everyone!

im ina much better mood now!

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky - [srs@postmark.net]
Eastern KS, kansas, US
Sunday, November 4, 2001 01:44:16 AM
IP: a010-0131.kscy.splitrock.net

NukesGoBoom... thanks fer telling me theres no tension... i hate it when i act like this... you know, the only fight i've ever had with my girlfriend in almost a whole year was about stuff like this... i get defensive, or snappy with out meaning to, but anyway, i'm glad there is no tension. it's so nice to have friends with common interests... espiecially in a subject like this... it was several weeks that i was reading before i even posted here... i din realize how many people came here.. its real cool, and i dun wanna get a bad reputation er anything.

but anyway.. stay cool everyone!

im ina much better mood now!

-={Terrky}=-

srs@postmark.net - [srs@postmark.net]
Eastern KS, kansas, US
Sunday, November 4, 2001 01:44:08 AM
IP: a010-0131.kscy.splitrock.net

Terrky k- no tension! lol. there is no tension between us, i dont know where you got that idea. were bros, right? anyway, its really @$@#ing late. peace :P
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Sunday, November 4, 2001 01:30:59 AM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

Lucky 13!!!
Greg Bishansky
Sunday, November 4, 2001 01:02:04 AM
IP: dialin-30-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net

nukes go boom: <why lose all that energy over something as trivial as this.. thats just GAY.>

i aint even gonna go there.. i din get mad, i got upset.. more at myself fer posting all rude and stuff. it's not that i care is someone doesn't like my band, but if you got something to say about, keep it to yourself... and i am not gonna make fun of anyting of yours either... that's just gay.

but anyway... i aint gonna post anymore lyrics at all if it causes this much tension.. or maybe it was cuase i said i would post all i want... either way, i said i was sorry for doing that... and i'm not holding anyting against anyone fer telling me to shut my mouth.

why is there so much tension between you and me nukes go boom???

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Sunday, November 4, 2001 01:01:22 AM
IP: a010-0131.kscy.splitrock.net

Top of the POT!

I'll post from work tomorrow. I spent all day at work reading Merlin Missys older and newest stories (She wrote 2 in the past 2 months!)

Later!
Fire Storm
Sunday, November 4, 2001 12:55:43 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

10?
Mooncat
Sunday, November 4, 2001 12:36:01 AM
IP: wks-65-30-27-68.kscable.com

Sorry Siofra, you're 8. NEIN!
Josh
Sunday, November 4, 2001 12:26:14 AM
IP: adsl-64-161-24-206.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net

Ninth!! Will post tomorrow, probably :)
Siofra
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:50:55 PM
IP: bursley-216-244.reshall.umich.edu

damnit i was gonna be 7th. guess 8th is good too.

Terkky k- no problem, you like who you want, fine by me. But next time, i wont sugar-coat anything i say to you about stuff like that, if you know what i mean. and by the way... why the hell do you get so angry about someone saying they dont like your favorite band? why lose all that energy over something as trivial as this.. thats just GAY.

you can make fun of linkin park if you wanna get back at me :)

sleep...
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:45:09 PM
IP: proxy1-external.blfld1.ct.home.com

6th.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:39:44 PM
IP: nat01-mccr-ext.rutgers.edu

... nukes go boom: <Im going to assume that you took my joke without any hard feelings. I was just joking, if you couldn't tell :) I downloaded some chicago songs and listened to them, trying to see what you saw in them. I just deleted 'em.> ah, it takes a certain kinda person to like a certain type of style. i've been getting enough crap from people for the past three years about chicago... some because they went soft in the 80's, some because they had a horn section... all i'm sayin is that i'm not chewing you out, but i don't critisize anyone elses music, so, if you listened to them, and decided to delete them, then don't tell me about it. i take stuff liek that personally. everything me and my frineds are baseing this band on, comes from chicgaos influence. all my inspiration comes from them... and others of course... but chicago is the whole reason i like classic rock at all, if i hadn't gotten into them, i wouldn't have the kind of appreciation of music i have today.

Jan: <While I appreciate your love for music and knowing the lyrics, it is very annoying to constantly see lyrics being posted here. It was once suggested that if someone has lyrics that they’d like to share on a regular basis, put them on a website page and then add the link to your name when you post. This eliminates others – who have no interest in reading the lyrics - from having to continuously scroll down the page to get past them. Also, it takes up unnecessary space on the page. This has been an addressed issue before and everyone has complied with the wishes of others. If you are going to choose to be a part of this group, then consideration for others is an important element in making friends with others. The attitude of “I’m going to do it anyway” will only cause friction and for others to stop reading your posts. i.e. you will be ignored or chastised.>

i'm sorry if i seemed straight forward, or rude in my post... but, it's like i said, i don't take that kinda stuff light... i just din stop to think of how others would take that before i posted it. i try hard not to come across as mean or anyting, cause i'm really not. i just sometimes ferget that not everyone likes to listen to my stuff... lol, sorry again...

anyway... hope i have patched things up with everyone... din mean to come across that way...

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:35:29 PM
IP: a020-0992.kscy.splitrock.net

We claim Top Ten space in the name of Great Britain this week! :) **snuggles**
Ravyn and Coyote
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:34:45 PM
IP: manzy-mo-1-226.rescomp.arizona.edu

Top Ten.

More later.
Fleur
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:27:39 PM
IP: proxy1.mel.pacific.net.au

**Dreamie is carried in by Winterwolf**

Top Ten! I claim Number 2 for Dreamie and Wolfie! ^_^

**Dreamie and Winterwolf leave to work on a big post later**
Dreamie and Winterwolf
Seattle, WA
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:25:47 PM
IP: acb52448.ipt.aol.com

In honor of my birthday I claim this top ten spot in the name of ME!

TOP 10

am I first?
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Saturday, November 3, 2001 11:24:37 PM
IP: proxy.or3.marketscore.com