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Howdy, all! Happy Saturday! :)

I went in to work today at the college bookstore, and I was the *only* one who showed up in my entire department. So I was stuck running the register, the textbooks, *and* helping people with buying their graduation announcements and caps and gowns and things (no one showed up to work there at all). So I was just a tad busy today. ;)

Jan> <<This guy could fart and his ass would speak more intelligent than his mouth>> *L* Oh, that's a good one!!! Silly guy. ;) <<Deputies picked the guy up, brought him in and his 17-year-old wife (who he was beating up on) refused to press charges.>> Dang. That's not cool at all. :( And I'd *definitely* be pressing charges if I were in that situation ... how terrible. :(

Josh> <<New Star wars trailer on apple's site. God that movie is gonna suck. But I'll see it anyway, because lightsabers rock.>> Lightsabers, and of course, just 3 magical words: OBI WAN KENOBI. ;) <<Rule #1: never rely on an ex to do anything.>> Darn straight. I have the *worst* luck with exes.

Robby> <<Personally, I just find this wrong on many, many levels...>> Yeah. I'd agree ... that just seems too weird.

Coyote> **hugs** Hey. :)
Ravyn
Saturday, November 17, 2001 06:57:42 PM
IP: 150.135.180.226

!@$#, she started Utukki before finishing HoI.

Fire Storm> <<Pine isn't on the servers>>: Oh well, and it doesn't really matter. Pine is the email client, lynx is the browser.
<<Can you imagine how much 'material' he would need to make a candle like that?>>: I am 21 year old unicorn bait. I could probably do it. Though I can't help but think that it wouldn't really make a good substitute for wax.
<>: Mayhap. But they are 60 meg or so mp3s.
<<Yeah... but that's about it>>: Right, but Duel was primarialy featured during the duel. Or I am halucinating.
<<Ok... I am scared now>>: Good. I just hadn't worked all the way through your post before nigh necessary sleep time due to an 8:10 class.
<<Open top box>>: And they can't climb out to excape?
<<Maybe we should do something like they are doing for Coa on tha Sexy Losers BBS>>: Which sub board and topic? I'm assuming it isn't the Fear one he started. Oh, and fluttering?
<<But where are you going to get boxers for a Salmon?>>: They're not for the salmon. She's going to wear them on her head.

Fleur> <<<What's with the plural?>>>: I think he just missed an apostrophe.
<<Movie started - she blushed. The blush stayed until an hour after the movie ended>>: Aw, and here I was hoping she got into it, leading into a massive lesbian orgy. Oddly enough, that's the basic plot of a combined Evangelion/Sailor Moon dojin out there.
<<Hey Gside, I think he's trying to challenge us!>>: Evil laugh.<<That would have been intersting, to say the least>>: Especially since he is the mad science teacher, Amazing Technicolor Labcoat, and all.
<>: Close enough, but it's mostly levitating arms (push your arm against a door jamb hard for a minute then relax it) and claw hands (clamp down on two extended fingers for a minute then relax them while the other person lightly massages them for a little, after that, your muscles won't want to extend).<>: They're organic molecules. There's a huge concentration of carbon.

Mooncat> <<??????????>>: It's from the 15th Sexy Losers, where Phenix from Tang's Weekly makes a guest appearance. "Miss! That's the eighth time this week you've ordered salmon sushi! What are you doing with it all?"

Imzadi> <<No, that's not what I meant>>: You sure?
<<They're included>>: Here, they're in a completely different college.
<<One word; MP3>>: SETI likes him too, but he still annoys me. And are mp3s fourier transforms or fourier series approximations?
<<Backdoor entry?>>: It would explain why the field is so messed up.
<<Probably not>>: We shall see.
<<Thanks for sharing>>: You are quite welcome.
<<Impossibly so>>: Not quite. With ugly loops, a short program can still be less optimized than a long one.
<>: But you'd still consider the top one, right?

Warpmind> <>: You probably should have asked me for those CDs.
<<Willie Nelson's "On The Road Again"... now, THAT song has some filk potential>>: I tend to prefer Crosby/Hope's Road song.
<<Make your own>>: We've already been over my problems with that.
<<You're trying to bribe Mara with flavored lubes?>>: I was under the impression that they were tools for the true bribe.

Female Brooklyn> Welcome.
<>: And you aren't going to to read all of it.

Niamhgold> <<That's assuming I am making it for _you_>>: No, just that encouragement couldn't hurt the time you take, should you actually do one.
<<Bow chicka bow, Gside>>: You'd better believe it.
<<Of course, what you don't know CAN hurt you>>: I'm willing to take the chance.
<<blue m&m>>: I thought it was supposed to be the green ones.
<>: Oh, but I am. Eyes shaped like footballs. Got it from my father. My mother has astigmatism, I believe, and age has since necessitated bifocals.
<>: Woot.
<<On the other hand>>: The left one, I hope. Unless you're a lefty in the first place.
<<Chocolate cake/canollis, anyone?>>: Mmm, canillis.
<<Unfortunately, nearest train station is Boston, which is far enough away for me to need to drive, anyways>>: I think my mother's managed to make it up farther north, but in Vermont. We usually drive, anyway.
<<PS2 is my ultimate favorite, _especially_ after playing Metal Gear 2 on it!>>: My suite is currently waiting on Smash Bros Melee. But we do also have MGS2 to tide us over.
<>: Maybe for your state of mind, but otherwise I'd be fine.
<<That girl's a weirdo, anyways>>: Not as bad as that Gside freak, I hear.

Imzadi> <<Why doesn't anyone post pics of themselves on their websites?>>: Because they're afraid of internet stalkers? Though I do have a picture of myself in my directory, and I have no problems.
<<Don't encourage him>>: Aw.

NukesGoBoom> <<WHAT changes will she make?>>: She pretty much sticks to the info area, usually the archives, and only rarely works on changes to the CR itself.

Mooncat> <<Since July 23rd, my last back up date, I'd accumulated over 2 gig of new files>>: I can do that in just over a week. Actually, if I worked at it, I could get it in a day, then be cut off for a week.

DPH> <>: But still, the more steps there are, especially inside loops, the longer it takes to finish, the less optimized it is.

Ooh, it's almost two full years I've been here. Just about 4.5 more hours.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, November 17, 2001 05:27:16 PM
IP: 165.230.240.114

Anyone going to wake up at 4:00 or 5:00am to see the meteor shower tomorrow early morning? It is supposed to be spectacular.
silvadel
Saturday, November 17, 2001 05:00:22 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

General Notes -- For those who like cartoons, Justice League premieres on Cartoon Network this after noon.

Narnia -- One of my favorite childhood series. When I was little, when I was sick, my biggest comfort was a hot, buttery grilled cheeze sandwich, a cup of hot cocoa, and The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. I loved all the books in the series, but that was the first one I'd read. It gave me my fondness for Turkish Delight, even though I'm not particular to pistashio nuts. I noticed the Christian references, but I didn't think they were too big a part of the story itself. The sons of Adam and the daughters of Eve were a pretty big give away, but the fauns, magical beings and talking animals and such always seemed very pagan to me. Even if someone does a dead on accurate movie based on the books, we'll no doubt get protesters saying it's Satanic because of the fauns and magic in general. As for Disney adaptations... after what they did to The Black Cauldron... I can understand the antipathy. But still, it might not be so bad. It really depends who they get to do it internally. If it lands in the right people's laps, we could see a pretty good film. Is this supposed to be live action or animated?

Jan -- <<OoooO pretty badges!! Did someone submit the artwork for the badges and then was chosen? I mean, was there a contest or something?>>

I believe there was a contest early on, and the guy whose art won went on to do the following years' A-kon badges. Not only does he do a different piece for each indiviual days, as well as the full weekend pass, but the pre-register badges have their own artwork as well, and staff and guests have different artwork on their badges. It's very kewl *^_^* -- I'll see if I can find some more of my badges.

<<That might be an interesting thing to do for future Gatherings… badge artwork contest! =) >>

I love that idea! I see such gorgeous Gargoyles artwork out there, and having it on a convention badge would be a real treat. I love saving my badges with the art on them. They make great keepsakes.

<<Sounds like you found a great deal on your car!Congrats :) It’s always fun and exciting to get a new car =) Sorry to hear that you lost all of your stuff on the computer =\ >>

Thanks, I am thankful I got one so quickly that is so nice. My dealer even put a "guardian angel" in the car when I went to pick her up. *^_^* -- guess I'll need one to keep this baby in one piece.

The computer file loss I'm still dealing with. I just realized some of my picture personal picture files may be missing. After Josh asked about pictures, I checked my file of pics of myself and family, and found them missing. oogah. I don't know how they got missed in my back up files. I have the orignals somewhere, but digging them out and scanning them will be a chore. sigh...

But it's a lovely day, so I'm not going to let it fash me any. *^_^*

Now got to go do house cleaning. I've got a mountain of clean laundry to sort and fold, and other fun things.

bye peeps
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Saturday, November 17, 2001 04:48:35 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

**DPH prepares to launch a thermo-nuclear missile at unknown with IP address of 172.151.110.124. DPH launches the missile, but then the missile ceases to exist. Suddenly, a voice says "Be patient. This idiot apparantly has not read the revised announcement on TGS status at http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/ce.html ."**

One week from Monday I get another rexamination. Joy.

Imzadi - <Why doesn't anyone post pics of themselves on their websites?>We're cheap, and some of us like to be anonymous. <You want to back up safely? Get another hard drive (preferrably an external one), or burn the data to a CD, or store it offsite (on a remote server, relative's computer, whatever). And store it more than once. One backup CD behind your bed doesn't do a shred of good. This way, when your computer fries, or your laptop gets stolen, you have SOME way to access your data. You can download it from a remote server onto someone else's computer and play with it. You can hook up the external hard drive to another machine.>I tried once upon a time to convince my pastor to back up the church's computer data on something besides floppies. If I was still working, I would have donated the money to buy a back-up system for the church's computer: an external CD-burner or a zip drive. Of course, I have backed up some of my more important computer files into my personal web space.

Robby - <And then there's something I find frightening. According to Cinescape quoting Variety Magazine, the estate of late martial artist/actor Bruce Lee has agreed to allow the Korean production company ShinCine to produce a "new" Bruce Lee movie staring a completely computer animation Bruce Lee.>How long before studios can do a single voice recording and use it to create all words and phrases in the English language?

Harry Potter - I emailed a friend of mine (from RL) who is just as religiously conservative as I am and he didn't see a problem with that. Don't group of all us conservative Christians together!!

Am I the only one having troubles with www.mail.com?

I call upon the forces of selfishness to bring Daniel Johnson back to the CR to confirm what Fleur said you would know.

Fire Storms <BUT you can use conventional explosives on the power lines going into the place!> Hmm. Next time, I will have the building swallowed hole by a black hole.

Happy Birthday SJ.

GSide Not necessarily. I prefer to write big programs that take many steps to get the desired output.

I going to start deleting spam once a day so that I can keep track of the amount of spam I get per day. I swear it's almost like someone runs a query of everybody who is online and sends spam to them that moment because I can check my email and 2 hours later more spam appears.

DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, November 17, 2001 03:36:39 PM
IP: 204.94.193.80

Mooncat -- Another e-mail saver eh? I have all of my emails saved back to 4-99. If I were to boot up an old computer of mine I probably have some back further.

Josh -- I think a lot of us would enjoy trying out being a dragon IRL.. I have had dreams where I was a dragon though, and in lucid dreams I can assume any form I like.

silvadel
Saturday, November 17, 2001 03:34:13 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Harry Potter: I do not have an opinion on this. However, I can understand where some people might find offense with such a topic as what the books portray. They view it as a manner of diablerie and that it makes it appear as if sorcery is an acceptable lifestyle… i.e. it glamorizes it. Personally, I have not read any of the books, I have not seen the movie and I haven’t made any effort to find out what it entails. *shrugs* I don’t have any desire to – it doesn’t interest me. As far as the Wizard of Oz is concerned, it’s a dream of Dorothy’s and in the end it’s proven to be just that… a dream.. as in not real. I have never heard of anyone complaining or bashing the Wizard of Oz and calling it demonic.
Once again – I do not have a personal opinion concerning the Harry Potter series. I don’t want people coming back at me and telling me how wrong I am because of what _other_ people may think of it. I’m only stating of how * they* may be interpreting it.
There are always going to be certain people who use the name of Christ, God, and Jesus as an excuse to be holier than thou and self-righteous. They use and abuse the Christian faith to justify their own beliefs or misgivings. In Christian terms, it’s called having a “religious spirit” – which is not a good thing. These people are identified and labeled as kooks and fruit loops by Christians as well as non-Christians.

Spacebabie> *chuckles* it sounds as if your parents are doing the right thing with your brother already. ; ) I for one, would have also made him pay for the porn and plus I would have removed all internet privileges for quite some time. How old is your brother?
Naw, I won’t trade you brothers… I’m pretty fond of mine =) He and I are extremely close. I have a sister and another brother, but they are two of a kind. In fact, child #1 & #3 are alike and are close while children #2 & #4 are alike and close. (Steve and I are #2 & #4.) Most people who meet my sister cannot believe that she and I are actually related. We’re as opposite as night and day… in looks, personal likes/dislikes, and personality. I don’t speak much to neither her nor my oldest brother – we just don’t have much in common. Now that I think about it… I will trade you a sister and older brother for your brother! *L*
Steve, however, is my bud. We’ve always been close and we are a lot alike. I’m very grateful that he lives in this town so that we can spend even more time together. Moving here has also given me the opportunity to be around his 2 children.

Mooncat> OoooO pretty badges!! Did someone submit the artwork for the badges and then was chosen? I mean, was there a contest or something? That might be an interesting thing to do for future Gatherings… badge artwork contest! =)
Sounds like you found a great deal on your car! Congrats : ) It’s always fun and exciting to get a new car =)
Sorry to hear that you lost all of your stuff on the computer =\

Stephen> Congrats on your new car too! Ya’ll are almost giving me the fever to get a new car myself! *L*

Carolyn> argh! (about your bi friend) that really sucks. It really saddens me to know that a lot of people have lost their ability for compassion and politeness. As I’ve said before, where has the common courtesy gone? If someone doesn’t like or approve of something else, it’s not necessary to be rude to someone else over it. An opinion or belief is not anymore validated because you’ve been rude to someone or you’ve made a verbal or physical gesture – especially when your opinion has not been solicited. If there’s a discussion about something such as being bi, homosexual, etc. then that’s one thing to express your own beliefs, but to just be rude to someone because you don’t agree with it… that’s immature and low class.
Josh> <<why can’t anyone learn to fix their own computer?>> A. I don’t want to B. I don’t have to and C. I have a son who enjoys that type of activity. What kind of mom would I be if I deprived my son of something that he enjoys to do that is harmless and educational? ; ) When the time comes and he moves away, then I will learn more about how to repair my computer. Until then, it’s wasted energy.

SJ> Happy Belated birthday! I had forgotten that your birthday was in November too. In fact, I believe there are a lot of November birthdays in CR. Mine is tomorrow =)

Todd> Have you heard back about your job interview?

Fleur> sorry to hear about your friend’s house being broken into. I know that must feel like such an extreme violation… not to mention loosing things to theft. I hope that they catch the slimeballs and are able to recover any of the lost items.
Heh, would you like to come walk my dog for me? ; ) Actually, the cardiologist highly recommended that I get back into a walking routine each night. Blah.
<<secret handshake>> actually, yes they do, but I don’t remember it… *L* There are also secret “greetings” that one can do to a fellow member to identify themselves in public. It was hard to keep a straight face while they were demonstrating all of these things to me during the ceremony. While I embrace the values and objectives of the Eastern Star, I’m not one to take “secret handshakes, gestures, and passwords” seriously. We have the same thing in Boy Scouts in the Order of the Arrow division. They have a secret handshake and a password… I never could remember any of the passwords, so I made my own up ;) Everything is based on Indian lore and names, so I would just make up some kind of variation of the words. Hehe They all knew me, so they would just laugh and let me into the room.

*Sits down at the campfire next to Fireside with marshmallows on a stick* Yes, Mandolin – I would also like to hear why you dislike CBS!

Kyryn> << fun trying to understand Japanese guests with limited English skills>> *L* that reminds me of when I would host groups of boy scouts from other countries for a week each summer. My all time favorite group was from Pachuca (sp?) Mexico. Best guys I’ve ever met! Only one out of 15 of them spoke fluent English. Some were able to say a few words and phrases and others were totally clueless. Made for a very interesting week! I’ve also hosted students from France for a 4-week program. We managed to survive the language barrier, but it was confusing and rough a few times! We all used a lot of “sign language” and everyone carried multi-language dictionaries wherever we went.

Work related: The KKK/Terrorist came in yesterday…. 3 minutes before my quitting time and I was the only one in the office. He wanted to see a couple of the inmates that had been in the cell next to his during his stay. He told me that he had made a “spiritual connection” with them and was now back to minister to them as a Man of God. I asked him if his spirit told him that one of the guys had been extradited. I refused to allow him to see the inmates. He then became agitated with me and began his usual bullshit of “who is policing the police?” and how corrupt the government was, etc. *rolls eyes* You know, if there’s one type of person who gets on my nerves more than others, it’s the ones who _think_ they know everything, who _think_ they are intelligent and superior and yet they are just ignorant asses. This guy could fart and his ass would speak more intelligent than his mouth. I told him to go away. He was very combative and was looking for an argument from me. Hello? It’s quitting time on a Friday afternoon… I’m NOT staying and arguing with anyone much less a baboon. He was ranting on and on and I smiled, picked up the phone and called over to deputies’ office and requested assistance. The idiot put some literature in the tray under the glass window and left when the officer arrived. I put the literature on the admin’s desk and left for the weekend ;) She’s gonna’ have a fit when she sees it.. *L*

Dispatch received numerous calls yesterday about a guy beating up some woman along side of the road. Deputies picked the guy up, brought him in and his 17-year-old wife (who he was beating up on) refused to press charges. He was booked in on a 20-hour hold, so at least he had to sit in jail for that length of time. The deputy was going to see about any other charges that they could hold him with.

The jailer found some make shift weapons that were in the process of being made. She does a shakedown frequently and is very thorough. It has kept our jail “safe”.

Time to get back to unpacking and cleaning… the entire family will be at my house for Thanksgiving. O_O
Jan
Saturday, November 17, 2001 03:27:43 PM
IP: 12.110.237.78

Siryn -- Have fun in Chicago! *^_^* But I think it's a different convention there. A-kon has always been in Dallas as far as I know. Big anime cons are fun! I'll dig up some pics of the last one I was at. The costumes were fantastic!

Josh -- << That's because safe mode turns off drivers>> -- yes, I know. I was being slightly sarcastic.

<<35 to 40 CDR's worth of stuff>>: Why do you back up all that stuff? You don't need to back up your OS, your applications, or anything that you have an installer for.>>

Josh, that 35 to 40 disks is ALL text and picture files, music and videos and what not --- not my OS or any such. 3 or 4 disks was for my e-mail files alone.

I just collect lots of stuff. Since July 23rd, my last back up date, I'd accumulated over 2 gig of new files. *^_^* -- And the majority of that was all Gargoyles related stuff!!!

I really regret the loss of a lot of the cel scans I'd found. I don't know if I'll be able to find them all again. Some were from auction sites and other from art dealers, and if they were sold or taken off the net, I probably won't see them again.

<< Rule #1: never rely on an ex to do anything.>>

Umm... I don't know about you, but I'm on pretty good terms with my ex. I let him mow my lawn (I have grass allergies), keep my computer upgraded, drive on the really long road trips while I nap, paint my house, do handy man type stuff... I mean, isn't that what ex's are for? *^_~*

Usually I wouldn't have to wait for the weekend for him to deal with my computer, but he just got married last Sunday, and his wife doesn't like to be left alone. He can't bring her over to my house, because she is allergic to my cats and hyper sensitive. So this Sunday he'll drop her off at another friend's, then come over and help me get all my drivers sussed out. *^_^*

<<I'm just girly that way>>: Are you implying that girls are inept with computers? Not that I disagree with you, I just wanted to draw attention to that horribly funny sexist comment. >>

Actually I know some girls who are utterly kick ass with computers, hardware, software, etc... but none of them are available to me anytime sooner than my ex will be.

As for being "girly" -- guys can be girly too. It's just an expression that today doesn't necessarily denote gender, but an attitude. Sexist? Depends on who says it, and how it's said. That's the wonder of human language.

I'm a girly type girl. At least with computer OS and drivers stuff. I know what I'm good at, and what I'm not good at. And with the parts I'm not good with, I am happy to let people who ARE good with it work it out for me.

Why fall into some kind of stubborn, bull headed macho trap of trying to do something I don't have an affinity for and screw it up, when there's a perfectly well qualified friend to do it for me?

<>

Why? He's good at this sort of thing. He'll probably have it all taken care of in a few minutes.

I don't see what your problem with this is. It's what good friends do, you know? Help each other. I've done my share of favors for him, from driving out in ice storms to pick him up when he's had car trouble, to running errands for him when he's sick, cooking for him, and doing those things for him that I happen to be good at, as he does for me.

If you don't have good friends like that, ex's or otherwise, my condolences.

<< Just out of curiosity, do you have any pics of yourself?>>

Yes, I do. *^_^*

<<Why doesn't anyone post pics of themselves on their websites? >>

I'll see what I can do when I get some time. But since I do so much erotic fiction and such, I don't generally like the idea of some of the head trips and crack pots that surf the net knowing what I look like. As a female actively online, dealing with stalkers is a real and unpleasant reality.

Well, time to go running. Now that it's getting colder at night, I have to run in the afternoon. sigh.

later peoples!
Mooncat >^,,^<

Mooncat
Saturday, November 17, 2001 03:19:50 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

My dad is grilling up a mess of food I still not sure if mom still wants me to fix dinner. Last night we had some good food. First some steamed clams dipped in hot sauce. Which I washed down with Mike’s Hard Lemonade . Then shrimp and pasta…yummers

To prove my brother really is an idiot
Me “Five more days”
Brother “Till what?”
Me.” Lets see two days will be Monday, four days will be Wednesday, do the math.”
Brother “Okay, So?”
Me.” You won’t have school that day.”
Brother. “Cool! Why?”
Me. “Cause its Thanksgiving you dim bulb!”

I swear he is stupid…or it could be all those Christmas commercials were seeing, or a combo of both.

Carolyn Marie>>> Yeah and the first thing they say to him when he wakes up is. “Where is the money?”

Female Brooklyn<<<ain't I an idiot? >>> Do you want us to answer that? Sorry couldn’t resist.

Niamgold<<<Ever see the Edy's Ice Cream commercial where the grandmother lifts the car?>>> for me it depends on the ice cream flavor. If it contains a lot of caramel then I will lift the car. Of course I also love the Tiramisu flavor of Haagen-Dazs Gelato.

Moon cat<<<Badges? We don't need no stinkin badges! -- unless of course you are at a convention, and it's the only way they'll let you into the goodies rooms. *^_~* >>> True I’m thinking of pinning mine to my arse or to my chest, just to give Josh and SJ an excuse to stare. Yes I’m turning into a slut and I blame Crzy and Mara ~_^

Josh<<>> And your enjoying it.<<<"ah, screw it, its due Monday".>>>Thanks for the reminder. I have a poem that’s due Monday.<<<This, of course, involved carrying lots of flats of soda up four flights of stairs.>>>Hey it’s a great workout.<<<Should have used someone else's connection.>>>He isn’t that smart.<<<"expensive" foreign chocolates annoy me. >>> They were bought at Sam’s club which is like a warehouse, plus they got creamy centers.<<<HEY! I didn't get a lap dance for MY birthday!>>>I wasn’t on my medication then.<<<I'd love to see Jan smack the sense into your brother.>>> Me too!<<<With or without painkiller?>>>With out.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Saturday, November 17, 2001 02:59:46 PM
IP: 65.57.80.97

Hi, just a lurker paying comments, haven't been here in a while...

Is the Harry Potter really good? I just got into the series because I was a bit jealous that alot of fans of another series dumped a series by K.A. Applegate and started to like Harry Potter. So I borrowed the 1st and 2st book of Harry Potter just this week and read both. I like it alot.

I know alot of people get on to newbies about this but when is Timedancer coming back? I would like to see the how Sata and Brooklyn live in future New York with their new hatchlings.

*bows and leaves*
Unown
Saturday, November 17, 2001 12:15:46 PM
IP: 172.151.110.124

Josh- you didnt understand what I meant by the updates LM was doing. What i meant was HOW IS SHE UPDATING IT? WHAT changes will she make? Perhaps you can conceive that?
NukesGoBoom
Saturday, November 17, 2001 09:41:05 AM
IP: 24.4.252.36

Mooncat> Thankyou for the badge link! ^_^ I've saved it for later reference, they are pretty cool though.

Isn't A-kon in Chicago this year around April?..Because I think that's the one I'm being taken to with a bunch of friends. ^_^;; (Really nervous..I've never been to a HUGE anime convention...nor really any anime convention at all really...<:) But I'm excited!

Harry Potter> I saw it yesterday...may I say that the most shocking event was when myself and my three friends got to the movie theatre and there were 5 schoolbuses parked outside... O.o;;;;;; Our movie was pretty full too. I liked the movie..I believe there are spots when they assume you have read the books or don't explain things clearly enough, but the effects were great! :)
Siryn - [siryn7@aol.com]
Saturday, November 17, 2001 09:28:52 AM
IP: 24.93.24.2

ugh, another long day.

I hate long days.

I managed to wake up an go to my first few classes. Fluids lecture was about balls. I swear, this class is just one semester, 4 units worth of dirty jokes. Balls, fluids, orifices, head...

Apparently balls are used as a representation of the ideas of aerodynamics, at least for explaining why different sports have differently shaped/treated balls.

I tried to get my materials TA to go over next week's homework so I wouldn't have to worry about it NEXT WEEK...but she wasn't prepared and couldn't do it. So I shall have to lug yet another book home.

Then, after eating, I tried to rush through my math homework that was due at 3. It was impossible, and that frustrated me and stressed me out. These math classes SHOULD be really easy for me. I managed to fudge my way through it, only to have my TA say "ah, screw it, its due monday". That was nice because she taught us how to do it, but I got all worked up for nothing.

After all that, I still had a lab to do with my friend John (we got an A+ on the last one that I wrote!), and then after that we went to Costco. This, of course, involved carrying lots of flats of soda up four flights of stairs.

The good news is that we got Swordfish and Final Fantasy on DVD. I hadn't seen FF before...and it was BEAUTIFUL. Yeah, as a movie, it sucked donkey balls, but visually...stunning doesn't even begin to describe it. This this is right up there with the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show from last week. Just absolutely beautiful.

And I still managed to do a lot of work. Ugh. Three days from now, I'll be in Los Angeles. That's all that matters.

New Star wars trailer on apple's site. God that movie is gonna suck. But I'll see it anyway, because lightsabers rock.

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Mooncat: <<when I was in SAFE MODE for some strange reason it wouldn't let me burn my files to save them>>: That's because safe mode turns off drivers. <<35 to 40 CDR's worth of stuff>>: Why do you back up all that stuff? You don't need to back up your OS, your applications, or anything that you have an installer for. First, its 90% likely that it won't go back correctly, and second its a complete waste of time and money. <<my ex-boyfriend would have popped my hard drive out and slaved it to my other computer>>: Rule #1: never rely on an ex to do anything. <<I'm just girly that way>>: Are you implying that girls are inept with computers? Not that I disagree with you, I just wanted to draw attention to that horribly funny sexist comment. <<loading drivers and stuff like that, I let my ex handle>>: I pity him. <<You can see some of my favorite con badges from A-kon if you like. I've posted the pic at>>: Just out of curiosity, do you have any pics of yourself?

Why doesn't anyone post pics of themselves on their websites?

Greg X: <<I'm the Head of Edits for TGS>>: Oh, so YOU'RE that bastard that's responsible for all this ;-)

Archwolf: <<All in all, it's a pain in the neck feature that MS added because it makes the user feel safer and therefor will be willing to spend more money on it>>: Actually, that's not what happened at all. Safe mode is M$'s answer to the macintosh "extensions off" mode. The difference is that on the mac, extensions off is an OPTION, whereas windows pretty much forces you to start into safe mode when IT thinks you need to. Extensions off mode (in the older mac OS anyway), is/was a great troubleshooting method for figuring out which driver is causing crashes, etc. Microsoft just bungled it.

Christine: <<that's about the only part of my body that never gains any weight>>: ...

Silvadel: <<if you think greedy thoughts while sleeping on a bed of treasure, you turn into a dragon>>: I gotta try that! I want to be a dragon! <<D&D is a non-issue -- That wont hurt anything>>: Most of them are too wussy.

Siryn: <>: Just in case you were wondering: I hate you. <<now html fun begins>>: I think "html fun" is an oxymoron. <<So soon you won't have to go all over the place to find the info>>: Kickass! Thanks a bunch!

Terrky: <<but of course, the wizard opf oz is ok... i just don't get that... people are stupid>>: when I worked for game keeper, there were parents that had no problems letting their kids play with Pokemon cards...but Magic: The Gathering was totally unacceptable. i still laugh about that. <<hollywood is corrupt and satanic and thier trying to convert children to devil worshipers>>: They found us out! <<more algebra>>: Bah! That is not work.

Kyryn: <<After creating and debugging Fortan and Pascal programs, extracting the meaning from mangled versions of English becomes far easier>>: I bet. You should write parsers for compilers. <<since Gandalf came back greater in wisdom and power.>>: Isn't that what happened to Jesus? <<That should have read "Fortran," not "Fortan>>: I knew what you meant.

The Wizard: <<I'll be trying to reply to posts/emails/whatnot this weekend, but in the meanwhile I've got to get a good chunk of this work done. And it seems like the rest of you can relate>>: I feel your pain. <<one needs to know the basics of how they're PC (or Mac, whatever ;)) works so that they can avoid easily-preventable errors in the future, and not depend on others to know/fix stuff>>: Relying on someone else for something so mission critical...never. <>: What's a floppy drive? <<Yeah, I'm taking a break, from work>>: Who has time for breaks!? <<Right up there with Madeleine L'Engle's stuff.>>: Wrinkle RULES! <<That's assuming I am making it for _you_>>: No, I don't think he's assuming that. <<Bow chicka bow, Gside>>: Don't encourage him. <<what you don't know CAN hurt you>>: Or it could feel really good, ya never know. <<try rhino horn, chocolate, oysters (my roomie eats _plenty_ of those), certain teas, blue m&ms>>: Its green M&M's, and chocolate is by far the most effective. Especially when mixed with strawberries and whipped cream. Oh, wait, that's just on me. <>: ME! <<I've done plenty of "others" to keep me busy>>: Didn't know you were such a slut ;-) <<Carrot on a string, carrot on a string. But it's no belgian chocolate. Maybe I'll have to stick to Godiva/Rocky Mtn. Chocolate Haus/maple sugar>>: I'll work for mocha frapps. <<Check out my studio.>>: Some day... <>: I've seen some ugly-ass naked people...I fear no nude. <<Maybe the longer I stay a virgin, the longer I shall live!>>: Would you rather live a long time as a virgin or a shorter time and not be one? <<You'd be surprised to see how long it takes the average person to find that feature in their word processing programs>>: I thought its automatically turned on in Word. <<Who knows. That girl's a weirdo, anyways>>: No kidding. <<Those are for old people and children>>: I would be in the latter category. <<Sensitive type, eh?>>: Oh yeah. <<I, for one, would rather be preoccupied than know my machine better than a living thing>>: You assume I have no knowledge of biology. I'm no doctor, but I do understand how the body works, well enough to draw the comparison to a computer. And there are some parts of the human body that I am intimately familiar with, but none of them are "guts", so to speak. <<depending on an ex>>: No kidding.

Baldy: <<do you even consider to hear through all that music in your statistically estimated lifespan?>>: Are you kidding me?! Its only a few weeks worth of music. I listen to music ALL the freakin time. <<no firstborn son of mine for you. Make your own>>: Not anytime soon. <<Sighs and mutters something to the effect of "no imagination"...>>: Seriously. Chocolate.

Nukes: <>: Shut up. The rest of us hope they never stop writing. read faster. <<What did LM mean by the "updates" to this page?>>: Update: (noun): a change, alteration, or addition. What part of that is confusing?

Spacebabie: <<He went to some porno sites whi ran up a hefty phone bill>>: Should have used someone else's connection. <<MrS Fields fudge and Baronie Belgian Chocolates and Josh these are the best chocolates in the world>>: That's such BS. "expensive" foreign chocolates annoy me. <<Changes into a bikini and gives SJ a lap dance>>: HEY! I didn't get a lap dance for MY birthday! <<I’m sure you would smack some sense into him>>: I'd love to see Jan smack the sense into your brother. <<Target sushi>>: Why on earth would you get sushi at Target? <>: Hell yeah! <>: With or without painkiller? <>: Well this technically wasn't a shortcut. It was just a completely different method. But nooooo. <<THANK GOD I don’t have to take another math class EVER again>>: In three weeks, I'll be saying the same thing.

Carolynn Marie: <<Take two and call me in the mornin'. If those don't work, use the second item and just knock yourself out. At least you'll get more sleep and you won't feel anything>>: I'll work on it. <<My friend B happens to be bi, and these girls in our group are giving her &%*^ for it but behind her back>>: In all fairness, many kids our age who say they are bi are just doing it for attention or because they're desperate for human contact. Now, on the other hand, there are plenty of REAL bi people and it sucks that your friend was being made fun of behind her back.

Female Brooklyn: <<saying that you guys are getting short on CR people>>: Don't think so. <<we were a stubborn old bunch who didn't give up on eachother>>: Still are. <<the room used to be soo packed>>: It's just as well, my posts would be 50 pages long.

Skippy: <<you can get demonicly posessed from using a Quija board or by playing Dungeons & Dragons>>: Some acid-tripped teenager went on a killing spree after playing D&D, and now Barnes and Noble won't sell the books.

Robby: <<or early depending on your definition>>: If its still dark, it's late. <<Doesn't help that finals are creeping up and there's much work to be done for those yet>>: I know the feeling. My finals are in a little less than a month, and they aren't gonna be pretty. Thank god I'm doing decently enough in my class that I can shank them and still pass. <<the original Heavy Metal movie>>: Heavy Metal 2000 rocked. It had violence and hot naked chicks. What more could a man want (in an R-rated movie)?

Okay its 3AM...even geeks need their sleep.

A witty saying proves nothing. -Voltaire
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, November 17, 2001 06:04:34 AM
IP: 64.161.26.245

I'm up late tonight, (or early depending on your definition...) and I'm in a kind of a bummed mood... I get into these a lot since last July it seems... Doesn't help that finals are creeping up and there's much work to be done for those yet... Ah well... I don't really have any replies to anything, but I thought I'd beat SJ to the punch and drop off some Entertainment News. THo of course, my version of the news isn't nearly as entertaining or witty as his. In any event...

ENTERTAINMENT STUFFS!
Early hints about the content of the Matrix Revisited DVD set due out next week have revealed early information on the Matrix anime series. Commissioned by Warner Bros. and supervised by American producer Micheal Arias. The anime will consist of a series of 5 short movies to be released next year, leading up to the premier of The Matrix Reloaded. Yoshiaki Kawajiri, director of Vampire Hunter D (2000), Yoju Toshi and Jubei Nin Pocho, will direct two of the short films for Madhouse Studios. Mahiro Maeda, director of Blue Submarine No. 6, will direct a sort of prequel to the first Matrix movie. As already announced, Squaresoft will also produce one of the films using the CG rendering technology developed for the Final Fantasy movie.
So basically, it sounds like the Matrix anime is gonna take the approach of the original Heavy Metal movie, or Fantasia... Ehhh...

For those of you interested in the works of Miyazaki, (The Japanese director that brought us Castle of Cogliostro, Nausicaa, Totoro, Kiki's Delivery Service, Porco Rosso, Tanooki War Pon Poko, Laputa, Princess Mononoke, (You know, all those films Disney is trying to bury...)... According to Anime News Service, Tokuma Shoten/Ghibli considers both Disney/Buena Vista USA and DreamWorks SKG potential licensors of the American theatrical distribution rights to Hayao Miyazaki's Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi. (You know I'm rooting for Dreamworks to get the rights over Disney... They'd actually do it right...)

A Reuters Newswire interview with Miyazaki publicized by the Miyazaki Mailing List in which Miyazaki points out that he created Sen to Chihiro specifically for Japanese audiences. And although he would be happy to see the film become successful worldwide, he has serious doubts that the film could prove successful in America where "a small number of the people will understand the film." He continues to say that, "Some [people] think being popular in the United States is the best thing, but I think it is wrong to think that way... Movies are said to be international, but I don't think so."

Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi is now the world's highest grossing non-American produced movie ever. WHich of course means, if it got released here by Disney, it would somehow manage to only appear in 2 theaters nationwide and only 37 copies of the video would be made...

And then there's something I find frightening. According to Cinescape quoting Variety Magazine, the estate of late martial artist/actor Bruce Lee has agreed to allow the Korean production company ShinCine to produce a "new" Bruce Lee movie staring a completely computer animation Bruce Lee. "Dragon Warrior," as the film is to be titled, is estimated to be a $50 million project targeted at the American market. At the present time, though, ShinCine has not yet chosen a CG animation studio to do the work. Dragon Warrior will be "the first film to digitally recreate a known actor for a major film role." Personally, I just find this wrong on many, many levels...
Robby
Saturday, November 17, 2001 04:15:24 AM
IP: 172.132.217.30

Badges? We don't need no stinkin badges! -- unless of course you are at a convention, and it's the only way they'll let you into the goodies rooms. *^_~*

Finally unearthed my scanner and decided to try getting a pic of my con badges. Nothing blew up, so I guess all's golden. Now if I can only get my printer to work...

You can see some of my favorite con badges from A-kon if you like. I've posted the pic at:

http://home.kscable.com/stingers/Badge01.html

kawaii!!!
Mooncat
>^,,^<<
Mooncat
Saturday, November 17, 2001 01:47:46 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

*stumbles in. falls face first into ground and mumbles:*

I yet live.
"Eng" just finished. stupid cone 04 wouldn't go down on the bottom. the top was flattened. stupid top-heavy firing kiln. fricker turned itself off 3 times today. :P
We'd otherwise intended to be done 4 1/2 hours ago.
I'm going to go to sleep now. YAAAY!

I will try to scan and send off art pics tomorrow. I haven't much photographed yet of my new art, but I have some. and I can send older stuff. I can always send more newer stuff again after crits when all of it is done. :)

*passes out*
Lynati "sleepsleepsleepsleep" Kshudra - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Saturday, November 17, 2001 01:43:15 AM
IP: 207.220.96.225

Warpmind -- There is a Mensa Norway. Mr Stig Westerhus, Langmann Dreyers gt 12, N-7043 Trondheim, Norway Tel 47 (0) 7353 5550(home) 47 (0) 7394 9869(wk) email mensa@mensa.no

Skippy -- D&D is a non-issue -- That wont hurt anything -- as for Ouija boards, they can be very harmful depending on the talent level of the person messing with it.
silvadel
Friday, November 16, 2001 11:43:57 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Caroline Marie:<<I also heard one hysterically funny excuse, that Harry's green eyes were a sign of the Beast (ie. Satan) or some other piece of crap excuse. No one gets upset over Wizard of Oz (like you said), or Star Wars, or Lord of the Rings (excellent works, btw).>>

Oh, I know of a few loonie right wing Xians (Atheist slang for the Religious Riche FYI) that have a bone to pick with Star Wars at least. The whole business with the force is in thier minds a slam against God.

It would be funny if these guys weren't so serious, considering that some of these same people make claims that you can get demonicly posessed from using a Quija board or by playing Dungeons & Dragons. What isn't funny is how much influence they have in society. NBC's Dateline did an hourlong show all about modern exorcism last Tuesday. The expose featured little scepticsm and way too much acceptance of these loonies in my opinon. Considering that if some psychic making claims like this, the reporters would be over it with a fine tooth comb and would have no problem debunking them. Their reporting on that story was slipshod and too pandering to the subject. I consider this very dnagerous seeing how I've heard of at least one story where a child died during one of these exorcism rituals. Giving fools like that such public credibility will only lead to trouble...
Skippy The Klingon
Friday, November 16, 2001 11:23:41 PM
IP: 209.245.243.94

** Niamhgold enters **

Yeah, I'm taking a break, from work. Then I might go watch Shaolin Soccer again later tonight. Funny Japanese effect-indulgent film. Everyone should see it ;)

Chronicles of Narnia? By Disney? Aww, man, they _will_ butcher it! I used to love all the books as a kid, and I still do. Right up there with Madeleine L'Engle's stuff. I sure hope they don't mess with Aslan, although I do hold hope that they won't since they once made an animated cartoon of the first book, and kept all mythos intact. As for the Wizard of Oz...that story has way more to do with the political context behind the gold/silver reserve debate of the late 1890s than it does Christianity.

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Gside: <For some odd reason, I feel like asking you to hurry up with it> That's assuming I am making it for _you_. But I do have a chance to "play" around...next assignment is a full life portrait in monochromatic purple ;) Bow chicka bow, Gside. <at least until I can try the fruits of the other side> Of course, what you don't know CAN hurt you.
<<<The problem with using aphrodisiacs is that you come off as desperate>>: But I am> Well, then...try rhino horn, chocolate, oysters (my roomie eats _plenty_ of those), certain teas, blue m&ms... ;) <<<Farsighted?>>: Slightly> Hmm. I would've pictured you nearsighted. <And you're saying that shouldn't earn me a slap in the face> Not yet. I may have a use for you someday. On the other hand...

Fleur: <'Mother getting her trapped child out from under the wheels' scenarios> Whoo, epinephrine boost! Ever see the Edy's Ice Cream commercial where the grandmother lifts the car?

Lynati: <okay, fine. I'll just turn them into jpegs and email them to those that were wondering what I've been up to. uhh...who was that again> You could email me some. Just keep them kinda small for the moment, for starters no bigger than 96 dpi, or no bigger than 100k :) I'd love to see what you're working on. <(really likes food, esp. when she doesn’t have to buy or make it herself> I like making food for people. Chocolate cake/canollis, anyone? ;) <what about a train> Unfortunately, nearest train station is Boston, which is far enough away for me to need to drive, anyways ;)

Caliope: Welcome BACK! :)

FS: <Na. Use the force and crush his throat> Too messy. ;) <And mayhap ye wish to have ye head separated from yonder body> You want to borrow my pitchfork? <There is no way in hell I am getting an Xbox just for that game, no matter how cool it is> No kidding. That clumsy-console really bites. Now, PS2 is my ultimate favorite, _especially_ after playing Metal Gear 2 on it! :)

Siofra: <They said self portraits would be acceptable ;-)> Go you! ;) Though I think I'll stay away from the selves. I've done plenty of "others" to keep me busy, as my sketchbook will tell.

Daddy: <You could always hit a motel along the way for a night> Yeah, I could. But I'd rather avoid it ;) Yes, you would have. You probably already did. <You're trying to tease me, aren't you> Carrot on a string, carrot on a string. But it's no belgian chocolate. Maybe I'll have to stick to Godiva/Rocky Mtn. Chocolate Haus/maple sugar. >;P Check out my studio. <And you're worried that *i"m* hitting on her> I think both of you should only be worried IF I made a nude self portrait. <Very few people die virgins> Maybe the longer I stay a virgin, the longer I shall live! <Does the phrase "grammar check" mean anything to you> You'd be surprised to see how long it takes the average person to find that feature in their word processing programs. <Niamhgold often refers to me as such. That or "daddy", but I have no idea what's up with that> Who knows. That girl's a weirdo, anyways. <That's a lot of work> Unless she's my height. Flu shots? Bah. Those are for old people and children ;) <which managed to bore me to tears> Sensitive type, eh? <WHY CAN"T ANYONE LEARN TO FIX THEIR OWN COMPUTER!? ITS NOT THAT HARD> Wow, that bad of a day, hmmm? No, it's not that hard, but some people are preoccupied. I, for one, would rather be preoccupied than know my machine better than a living thing ;)

Mooncat: <Also, loading drivers and stuff like that, I let my ex handle> That's a dangerous thing, depending on an ex...especially considering that computers are much less complex than (and on some levels, comparable to) the living body ;)

SJ: Happy birthday! For you especially, Devil's Food cake. ;)

All right, I'm out. Adios, all!

Niamhgold - [fluff_astrid@yahoo.com]
Friday, November 16, 2001 10:26:29 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

hi everyone, I'm a norm chatter here and this Arachnia person comes in here saying that you guys are getting short on CR people. And I remembered that it'd been a long time since I'd buzzed in here to say hey.
So here, hey! hehe. ain't I an idiot?
I haven't had much time to real this all yet, I'm gonna save it and read it when I'm off line and make a reply then. I wasn't even planning to post up here until I read what you all were sayin, but you see... an old friend of mine seems to be back in the CR after going missing for what, EIGHT years?
Yeah, HEY JADEN!!!! yes, it's me, dunno if you remember me or nothin' been a really long time. mail me buddy
And to everyone, I wanted to make a comment about the chatrooms. they're dying. i've watched them you guys since this place began. back then... we were a stubborn old bunch who didn't give up on eachother. we didn't give into fads, like DBZ or whatever... and we had fun. There's hardly any of that around anymore. the room used to be soo packed. <smiles> you'd be lucky if you saw your old post when you posted up again. :D Now, It's gone DAYS where you can still see your old message of there. The most i've seen in that room is 6 people in the last 5 years.
As for the comment room... it's slowing down too. you all know what i'm talking about. somehow, we need to reawaken the old fans and help these newbies get on the true garg path.
Thats it folks, laters! and lemme get a lil broadcasting in here. READ STAR WYVERN FICTIONS :D:D:D:D kidding, you can if you want. their lame in the begining series, but there's almost 100 of them! all in the same stinkin chain of series! HAHA. later
Female Brooklyn - [star_wyvern@yahoo.com]
Another World, Another Time, Another Universe
Friday, November 16, 2001 09:30:47 PM
IP: 67.195.57.42

I saw the "Harry Potter" movie this morning, in fact. Quite fun (although it felt somewhat abridged in places; but then, if they got in everything from the book, it would be too long to sit through).

One of my favorite aspects of it was the design for Hogwarts: great stone pillars, diamond-pane windows, coats of arms, huge leather-bound books in the library, all very British. (How I'm glad that they didn't Americanize it).

I've heard about the Harry Potter debates; actually, some of the people who view the series as Satanic do have the same opinion about all fantasy works (including Tolkien, C. S. Lewis, the Wizard of Oz, etc.).

BETH MASHBURN - Tolkien was a devout Christian (Roman Catholic, to be precise), but he denied that there was any real link between Gandalf's return from death and the Resurrection. He felt that the career of Jesus Christ was too high a subject for him to dare to deal with in LotR.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, November 16, 2001 07:01:58 PM
IP: 168.191.109.159

SPACEBABIE< Re: bro having to pay for porn sites< Good for your parents. Show the lil' wanker no mercy! Bwahahaha! *erp* I personally love Flanders cuz he reminds me of someone I went to high school with. I think he runs neck and neck with Comic Book Guy for Most Annoying Cartoon Character That You Love to Hate.

DISNEY SLAUGHTERS NARNIA< God help me, no ... I hear they're on work creating a new animated movie, "Big Bear" or something like that, which is basically a hyrbid of Pocohontas and The Lion King *waits a beat* You think I'm kidding, don't you? Prepare to run in fear, mortals, for I kid you not. I'm wondering why Disney keeps making movies that are so depressingly awful; Miyazaki must be in his own animation studio right now, laughing his ass off as he churns out another winner (speaking of which, his latest movie in Japan just broke box-office records, even exceeding that of Titanic ... which sucked, but that's still excellent news :D).

TERRKY< Man, I wish I hadn't just thrown out yesterday's paper ... there was an article about a guy and his son who loved Harry Potter so much that they were giving sermons at their church, talking about how Harry showed such good Christian ethics like loyalty, good conquering evil, and sticking up for your friends. Good, right? But the article also mentioned some nutjobs who (I'm paraphrasing here, from memory) found the Harry Potter books to be evil because "the broomstick is a distinct phallic symbol, the scar on Harry's forehead resembles a swastika and a symbol of the Antichrist, and the fact that Harry's mother died to save Harry could actually undermine Christianity and boost ratings for a feminine-powered witchcraft religion" (nothing wrong with the last one, though I see little point in connecting the two). Are they saying that mothers everywhere should just not protect their kids, because doing so would feed into "evil satan worshippers"? I also get upset because they lump satanism and witchcraft together, and they are TOTALLY different ballparks. That's like saying the Southern Baptists must be the same as Hindus. I also heard one hysterically funny excuse, that Harry's green eyes were a sign of the Beast (ie. Satan) or some other piece of crap excuse. No one gets upset over Wizard of Oz (like you said), or Star Wars, or Lord of the Rings (excellent works, btw). Hell, even in the Bible, Jesus performed miracles (I actually brought this up to some really crazy folks who were getting their knickers in a twist, and they said, "Well, trying to copy Jesus is a sin"). A sin? I thought the whole point of Jesus' visit to Earth was to teach and so we could follow in his footsteps. Frankly, I find this sort of funny *looks at the big paragraph* Hehe, sorry, didn't mean for this to go off on a rant. But I totally agree with you, Terrky, and Spacebabie. Some people are just nuts. I think the whole thing with Harry Potter is sort of the same as the OJ trial when people were claiming everyone was persecuting OJ because he was black; that problem didn't exist until they created it.

JOSH< Feel better *tosses you some Advil and a hammer* Take two and call me in the mornin'. If those don't work, use the second item and just knock yourself out. At least you'll get more sleep and you won't feel anything.

Okay, I am officially pissed. My friend B happens to be bi, and these girls in our group are giving her &%*^ for it but behind her back (and to MY face ie. "yeah, what a weirdo, her kind's just like that, ect." like she has freakin Ebola and expecting me to go along and laugh with them). I told them their reasoning was stupid and just left the room. It's two weeks later and at dinner, B was laughing with us about something, and K just HAS to give us a funny look (ie. "What a weirdo this chick is") and say loudly, "Uh, NO COMMENT", which is a comment right there, and then leave. B doesn't know what's going on and my roommate and I are the only ones in our entire group who know the whole low-down, and I don't want to hurt B's feelings so I'm keeping it all to myself. But people's ignorance really pisses me off. If K says anything again, I'm saying something...
Carolynn Marie - [C4arobin@aol.com]
Madison, NJ, USA
Friday, November 16, 2001 06:04:51 PM
IP: 199.95.169.190

My Brother is an idiot. He went to some porno sites whi ran up a hefty phone bill. Guess who has to pay it? Thats right my parents are making him.

We got some good candy here. MrS Fields fudge and Baronie Belgian Chocolates and Josh these are the best chocolates in the world!

I was outside with Velvet today and well she got loose from her harness and ended up in the back yard. In a TREE we had a heck of a time trying to get her down.

::Changes into a bikini and gives SJ a lap dance.:: Happy belated Birthday SJ ::Smashes a cake in his face::

SJ<<<Chronicles of Narnia>>> Kick ass! I loved that animated movie of “The Lion The witch and the Wardrobe”<<<*Disney* wants the rights and will do just about anything to get them.>>> for the love of God no!

Jan<<<Survivor: Another Tribal council and now Lindsey is out... good. I didn't like her very much - too whiney.>>> True she was Whiney but was also a good sport about it. I wish it was Tom that got kicked off. I hate that ‘Neck’<<<my brother is a very funny and weird guy. ;)>>> Can we switch brothers? I’m sure you would smack some sense into him.

Mooncat<<<It's fish, and that's always a plus>>Here here <<Raw is better>> That is true
Unless it’s the Target sushi that sucks. <<<but tonight I can live with smoked>>> I loved smoked Salmon, especcialy on a bagel with cream cheese.

Fleur<<<my best friend's house got broken into yesterday, and all of her jewellery was taken, most with major sentimental attachment (grandmothers and great-grandmothers engagement rings, for instance), >>>I hope they catch those bastards. And HUG.

Josh<<>> Sounds like me, of course I would also rather have a root canal done than go to a math lecture<<<but then I found out that I wasn't allowed to do one of the problems the way I did it (>>>That was one of my main problems with math. I kept finding shortcuts and they kept on telling me to do it the long way. THANK GOD I don’t have to take another math class EVER again.

Terrky K>>> The world is full of stupid people. I was listening to Neil Bortz the other day and he refers to such people as Fanatics. Well a woman called and asked him why he was bashing Christians. Well Neil cut her off, cause he wasn’t bashing Christians just the NedFlanderish fanatics.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Friday, November 16, 2001 05:19:07 PM
IP: 64.159.111.25

btw firestorm, that gay game is truely something awful. LOL!
nukesgoboom
Friday, November 16, 2001 03:33:08 PM
IP: 24.4.252.36

ANOTHER series?! just one more, right? i really hope they stop writing soon 'cause i have SO much to read.

What did LM mean by the "updates" to this page?
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Friday, November 16, 2001 03:27:55 PM
IP: 24.4.252.36

***Kyryn ducks back into the room***

Darn it. The "r" key is sticking on this keyboard. That should have read "Fortran," not "Fortan."

****Kyryn leaves with a large hyperhammer, muttering about keyboard maintenance.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, November 16, 2001 02:49:39 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

*Warpmind strolls in, to the theme from the Poirot series (the one starring David Suchet), obviously dissatisfied with something.*
I have GOT to do something about my posting frequency... I'm turning onto Wilek here, dangit!
Hmh... Sorry about the double post, by the way... didn't notice before now... (probably too late to be much of a point, but I oughtta apologize anyway.)

Oooh, heh... WinAmp just got to Willie Nelson's "On The Road Again"... now, THAT song has some filk potential... everybody, sing along... "On the skiff again, I can't wait to get on the skiff again..." Hmmm... *ponder* Methinks I shall try to do that one, actually...

Silvadel: Well, considering I live in Norway, I may not be able to find quite as many IQ tests over here that are "authorized" by Mensa, as in the US... But I'll try.

Josh: Well, consider this: 8 CDs of mp3s, versus a 70 Gig library of mp3s... do you even consider to hear through all that music in your statistically estimated lifespan?

Gside: Nope, sorry, no firstborn son of mine for you. Make your own. };)

CrzyDemona: You're trying to bribe Mara with flavored lubes? *Sighs and mutters something to the effect of "no imagination"...* };)

Fire Storm: Yes, I've seen Friends. But I'm not the one who commented on Buffy the Vampire Layer.

Disney trying to get the movie rights for Narnia... *Blinks, trembles in fear* This cannot turn out well... If I so much as SUSPECT Aslan, or the White Witch, or Caspian, or downright ANYone in Narnia is about to break into unbridled song, I'm finishing up my meelee weapon designs and taking off to take out Eisner. Maybe. Or maybe I'll just suffer in silence...

Hmh... That's just about caught up with stuff... Y'know, I oughtta get back to the RPG programming. I'm almost done with making a working battle system... one much akin to that of the Final Fantasy series, with character speed affecting battle sequence... }:) Later, everyone.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, November 16, 2001 01:50:30 PM
IP: 193.217.215.95

** Niamhgold enters briefly **

Hey, all. Busy weekend, busy day...just, busy. I'll be trying to reply to posts/emails/whatnot this weekend, but in the meanwhile I've got to get a good chunk of this work done. And it seems like the rest of you can relate.

Computer stuff: I'll let that simmer for awhile. Seems to me that before one backs up work, one needs to know the basics of how they're PC (or Mac, whatever ;)) works so that they can avoid easily-preventable errors in the future, and not depend on others to know/fix stuff.

I haven't used my floppy drive in so long... ;)

Well, that's all for that.
Adios and a great weekend to all!
Niamhgold
Friday, November 16, 2001 12:53:46 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

****Kyryn drops through a trapdoor in the ceiling and lands on her feet.****

Josh> After creating and debugging Fortan and Pascal programs, extracting the meaning from mangled versions of English becomes far easier. ;)

Greg Bishansky><<I'm currently reading "Lord of the Rings" and am having fun pointing out the Catholic themes in it... a no brainer being the death and return of Gandalf. >>Actually, considering that Tolkien drew heavily on the Norse Mythos for the Lord of the Rings, he was probably using the death and resurrection of Odin as a model, since Gandalf came back greater in wisdom and power.
Of course, death and resurrection themes run through a number of religions. ;)

Later, All!

****Kyryn unfolds a portable door, opens it, then closes it frantically before an oncoming train runs her down. She opens it again and dives through the doorway. The door rolls itself up like a windowshade and vanishes.****

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Friday, November 16, 2001 11:34:26 AM
IP: 216.35.46.129

*Rides The Storm In*

*begin rant*

lmao, ok, i was listening to the radio on my way to school today. i had it on my fav morning show on 99.7 KY... they had a guy on there, and they were talking about the new harry potter movie... get this... the guy was protesting the movie because he believes it to be "Satanic Entertainment" LMAO... i haven't actually read any of the harry potter books, but from what i have seen from previews of the movie and general people talking about the books, i think this guy is just crazy!

he got on there and said that parents should NOT take thier kids to see it. he said that all problems in the world are caused by movies such as this. another caller called the radio station and asked the man "have you ever let your kids see the wisard of oz?" that movie has alot to do with stuff like that, but of course, the wizard opf oz is ok... i just don't get that... people are stupid.

then he kept goin on about society. that so many people are devil worshipers because of such movies... and that hollywood is corrupt and satanic and thier trying to convert children to devil worshipers.

this just pisses me off. one: because he is telling everyone how society should be. society should be alot of things... i don't think harry potter is going to make it any worse. two: because he is just stupid. if you don't want your kid to go see it, then don't let em... but don't go on a radio station and just make an idiot of yourself. everyone is entitled to thier own opinion, but not entitled to tell others what to do, just becuase YOU think it would make the world better.

they had another guy on shortly after the WTC incident. he owned a small town costume shop. he had stocked up over like 1000 harry potter costumes, becuase of the movie... well, after WTC, everybody wanted to be a fireman, police man... so on, so he was talking about how people shouldn't be able to buy police costumes, because all the costume stores stocked up on harry potter... he was hideing his fireman cotsumes!!! that guy got some nasty people calling up yelling at him... i would have too!

anyway, the guy who was talking about harry potter said that people shouldn't see it because it has magic wands... that little kids would start playing like harry potter and poke an eye out. what a dumb@$$ of course that is possible, but you don't have to be playing like harry potter to poke an eye out. and that doesn't mean it will happen just because they saw the movie. gaaaah! ya know, this just makes me wanna take my little 3, 9, and 11 year old cousins to see it more! kids are not stupid, and they don't need some dumb@$$ calling up telling the parents they can't see it!

*end rant*

well... thats just my thoughts for today. i gotta go do some homework now! bleh... more algebra.

-={Terrky}=-

*Rides The Storm Out*

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Friday, November 16, 2001 11:31:01 AM
IP: 208.18.58.254

I am DONE..done with finals done with this quarter!

hehe...now html fun begins.. (I hate handwriting tables.. -_-;;) (But not until AFTER I see Harry Potter today! :D)

If I miss anyone's post..my bad. -_-;; I'm still recovering from being up 48 plus hours from finals etc..so please post it again if I miss a question, comment, etc. <:)

Christine> Awww. Yeah, I read your post. We'll miss you there! <:)

Josh> Heh.. ^_^;; Thanks..I just like doing things for people, makes me feel good myself.<:D I know about the inconvience...I actually got the info I needed yesterday! (GO CHRIS! THANKYOU!) So my weekend is going to majorly consist on getting stuff set up on the website. ^_^ So soon you won't have to go all over the place to find the info.<:D

Mandolin> Oh you're welcome! ^_^ (I'm assuming you mena the link for the airport.^_^;;) Anytime, like I said, I love ansering questions...and I want everyone to have an opportunity to go to the convention if at all possible. ^_^

Masons versus Jack the Ripper > I really did like the movie too. ^_^ I'm SOO getting it on DVD...the imagery was MAGNIFICENT. As for the Masons..they may or may not have been involved...actually recent evidence points towards the killer as being Mary Kelly's boyfriend (I forget his name, but he was one of the suspects) for the reasoning he was the only one who had a key to the place where she was found murdered (and the door itself was locked when police arrived) The concept is that he started killing the others to get Mary to stop soliciting herself, and when it didn't happen...he chopped her up. But again, that's one of the theories. ~_^ Too bad DNA testing wasn't around back then!

That's all for me for this morning..gotta go get ready for Hp! :D

PS. URL link is to theGathering Bulletin Board
Siryn - [siryn7@aol.com]
Friday, November 16, 2001 11:13:28 AM
IP: 24.93.24.2

Yep I read all of the Lion Witch and Wardrobe series a long time ago -- 7 books if I remember right...

The only world I know of where if you think greedy thoughts while sleeping on a bed of treasure, you turn into a dragon.

silvadel
Friday, November 16, 2001 11:12:04 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Jan > thanks; was just wondering. Tim's a Mason and he & I have butted heads about some aspects of it on occasion, so I was keen to get a perspective from a woman involved. Hope it goes well for you.

Narnia > now there's a series I've been meaning to go back and read. Only ever got to The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe, and that was ages ago.

Fire Storm > well, don't look at me for painting eyeballs; that's about the only part of my body that never gains weight ; ) As for 2002, I think you're overestimating my influence but thankee anyway!

Survivor > all I can say is "YES! Finally! About (bleep) time!"

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, November 16, 2001 09:38:57 AM
IP: 64.24.214.197

*pops in*

MoonCat> All safe mode is is windows booting with no device drivers loaded. This gives the system a chance to repair itself with nothing laying claim to system resources or further damaging registry or file system. All in all, it's a pain in the neck feature that MS added because it makes the user feel safer and therefor will be willing to spend more money on it.

Out

Archwolf
Friday, November 16, 2001 09:15:19 AM
IP: 137.148.201.108

LEE> I'm the Head of Edits for TGS. Feel free to send what ever you want to me and I'll forward it to the list.
Greg Bishansky - [Madoc55@hotmail.com]
Friday, November 16, 2001 08:15:45 AM
IP: 216.179.5.203

OK, I wanted to e-mail the guys at 'The Gargoyles Saga' with this, bit the address on the site doesn't seem to work. I just wanted to ask how someone would go about becoming one of the writers for the Saga? Who do I contact? I am already a writer myself (check out http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/storycrafter for proof. It's my own web site), and would love a shot at being involved with this. Can anyone help?
Lee Shaw - [cyberklaw@yahoo.com]
London, UK
Friday, November 16, 2001 07:22:38 AM
IP: 195.194.72.8

Josh -- <<A decent CD burner is only $100>> --

Yeah, I *have* a CD burner, but when I was in SAFE MODE for some strange reason it wouldn't let me burn my files to save them. Go figure.

So I tried to save my most important (read, irreplaceable and not backed up) before having to reformat my HD so I could use my computer again.

Yes, I did a bad and didn't Back Up my files for the last four months. My last major back up was July 23, and it was about 35 to 40 CDR's worth of stuff. Since then I'd added another two gig of files to my computer which I intended to back up soon, only it wasn't soon enough. Actually had scheduled to back up at the end of October, but then stuff happened and I forgot. And yes, I'm incredibly regretful about the lapse. =(

I am so used to CDR's that when forced to use my 3.5 floppy, I was so horrified by the slowness that I was willing to sacrifice most of the 2 gig unbacked up files... I only bemoan the loss of my writing files. The ones I wanted most *should* have fit onto a 3.5 floppy. I didn't realize that there was another set of files in the same folder, on Greek Gods, that was so mucking huge it filled and over filled the space. So I saw that the file folder my writing was in was saved, didn't realize the text files I wanted and needed didn't make it along with the folder. =(

My begetting sin is impatience. If I'd waited for the weekend, my ex-boyfriend would have popped my hard drive out and slaved it to my other computer. And I could have retreived my files that way. I just couldn't take more than 24 hours without my main computer up and running. I'm a net addict. 24 hours without net access is pretty much my limit.

But I don't mess with doing stuff with my computer hardware. I'm just girly that way. I don't do the physical stuff where you open a computer's case and start messing with it's computer guts. Give me a living (or rather dead-- organic, okay?) creature to dissect, no problem. But I don't do machines. It's not my area of expertise. Also, loading drivers and stuff like that, I let my ex handle. I have other talents *^_~*

Well, back to the writing...

Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Friday, November 16, 2001 04:39:40 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Ugh...long day.

I woke up at the butt crack of dawn (a.k.a. 10AM) for math. I really wanted to skip it and get a flu shot instead (yes, I would RATHER get a flu shot than go to Math lecture), but for some reason I couldn't leave math. This was quite amazing considering that the professor was finding new ways to talk faster and faster. I don't think any of the 300 students present picked up what he was talking about. Thank god for discussion sections.

After a quick break for food, it was off to fluids office hours to find out how to do my homework. I made a bunch of progress on it last night, but then I found out that I wasn't allowed to do one of the problems the way I did it (even though the answer came out right), so I had to re-do it completely. Freakin' problems take forever, too.

Then off to dynamics lecture, which managed to bore me to tears. Vibrations. Actually, its not even vibrations yet. Its just oscillations of springs, which is similar, but not exactly new material.

And then BACK to office hours to find out how to do the last one, a problem whose mere description was long enough to be a midterm itself. It involved the Pi theorem, using MATLAB to graph, and then more Pi theorem, and similarity theorem, blah blah blah. It was hell.

And if that all wasn't enough, I had to go to a review for my fluids midterm too. Probably a bit useful, but terribly boring. Water just doesn't interest me.

All in all, too much fluids. Yes, there IS such a thing.

And I huffed and puffed all night but still couldn't make a dent in my stat homework. I have no idea what I'm gonna do next week to get work done early. I have a feeling I'll still be bringing a lot of books home.

***SOUTH PARK SPOILERS***

anyone who's seen this episode will be seriously insulted the next time I call them "butthead".

***END SOUTH PARK SPOILERS***

replies!

Look folks, I've been using computers for a long time, and so have most of you. Zips and floppies DO NOT count as backups. Why? Because floppies and zips are about as reliable as the narrator of "Yellow Wallpaper".

You want to back up safely? Get another hard drive (preferrably an external one), or burn the data to a CD, or store it offsite (on a remote server, relative's computer, whatever). And store it more than once. One backup CD behind your bed doesn't do a shred of good. This way, when your computer fries, or your laptop gets stolen, you have SOME way to access your data. You can download it from a remote server onto someone else's computer and play with it. You can hook up the external hard drive to another machine.

Mooncat: <<Did you ever have one of those milleniums?>>: Yeah. The last one. <>: I'm sorry to hear that. <>: A decent CD burner is only $100. <<Have to wait for the weekend for my ex-boyfriend to do the computer fixit for me and get all my drivers squared away>>: WHY CAN"T ANYONE LEARN TO FIX THEIR OWN COMPUTER!? ITS NOT THAT HARD!!

Todd: <<a crossover with "Monty Python and the Holy Grail">>: That would be so incredibly un-funny. They are completely clashing styles of humor. <<heroes who have sons usually wind up with that sort of problem>>: Angel's son would make one hell of a villian...20 years from now.

Sevarius Jr: Happy birthday! How old are you? <<Disney will f!ck it up>>: Der. <<"Pearl Harbor", which was made with different versions so as NOT TO OFFEND the Japanese.>>: I don't know what's more amazing: that they did this or that it worked. <>: Stripping a story of its original purpose and theme is WRONG. Not to mention a flagrant violation of free speech. <<Amy gets turned back into a human>>: Ooh goody maybe she'll be a regular. She was cute. <<the gentleman's club isn't quite open this early>>: You should come to LA.

Lee Shaw: <<either Toon Disney have completely lost their minds, or there are other reasons>>: I don't believe that's an "either/or" scenario. <<Are there new episodes of 'The Gargoyles Saga' coming soon?>>: Nope.

Kyryn: <>: Wow, so you really DO speak broken english.

Mandolin: <<you just asked the one question guaranteed to drive the TGS staffers who frequent this board absolutely nuts>>: Right, cuz it doesn't drive the RESt of us nuts too.

Greg X: <>: Is that a good or a bad comparison?

Nukes: <<why is it limited to another 198 years?>>; Der, because in 198 years, you have the next series!

Jan: <>: Fifty years ago, I could have had a nifty star on my sleeve 8-) <>: Not with a modem connection you wouldn't...trust me. <<a dead snake and a dead mouse... the cats had a busy day>>: Awww, presents! <<It was my brother calling playing a joke on me>>: LOL that's great!

Jackal: <>: Damn right I do! <<We DO need holes in our head, we couldn't hear or breathe without them>>: I meant an EXTRA one. <<thanks for devoting an entire post to me!>>: If I hadn't, no one ELSE would have noticed the great comeback.

DPH: <<It oughta be illegal to sell email addresses without the permission of the owner of the email addresses>>: It is, actually. <<Blocking addresses do no good>>: It helps. You just need better filters. <<3 months should be long enough to get that email address off the lists>>: It isn't. They don't care if their mail gets bounced. <>: Yeah, me too. <>: Well, buying a new laptop will do that to a guy. <>: How couuld you HATE short programs!? <<How is that there is a seemingly never-ending supply of idiots who keep asking about the status of TGS>>: Well, it starts with the fact that there is a never-ending supply of idiots. <<Imzadi, I am sure that you will want to join this bet I am making>>: No thanks.

Archwolf: <<11 months since i had a drink>>: God man how do you survive!? <<The damn thing crashes left and right>>: Isn't it terrible that a GAME CONSOLE should crash? That's what they get for giving it an operating system.

Yggdrasil: <<it was still amusing and better written than most of the trash on both the big screen>>: That's not saying much.

Gside: <<You mean having gay sex with their significat other?>>: No, that's not what I meant. <<You're forgetting the ECE department>>: They're included. <<what makes this Fourier guy so hot anyway>>: One word; MP3. <<Doesn't everyone?>>: No, I keep my head attached to my body. Helps coordinate. <<because they've been coming at it from the wrong side>>: Backdoor entry? <>: Probably not. <<What you didn't need to know is that I sucked it all out>>: Thanks for sharing. <<Sounds like my day>>: Sounds like my day too. <>: Impossibly so.

Jaden: <<Happy Thanksgiving to everyone>>: You're a week early.

FS: <<Don't all heads need some time alone?>>: I have two, and if they ever ASK for time alone I'm gonna be pissed. <<draw and paint really detailed eyes on her breasts>>: No, no. Breasts on her face. Then we can look her in the eyes. <<50MB drivers>>; Jesus. <<Bad Willow wore revealing clothes>>: that doesn't change the body. <>: So do I. <<no one else is important>>: Does LM know that? <<they will know you are important>>: But they can't shoot me if I'm not there. <<Printers>>: You can AFFORD a printer that prints images like that? <>: Yeah, and I want a Cinema Display. <<YES THEY ARE COMING OUT!>>: No they aren't, don't be silly. <<They have lives>>: Oh, now THAT is funny. <>: Really? My money is on 5. At the current rate, it will take 20 real years to get there.

Spot: <>; Short trip. <<Maybe your son will be part of the generation who finally do>>: Yeah RIGHT. <>: If only the tobacco companies knew. <>: Alright, but only if you're nice...I kind of like being on top too. <<There's a name for proofreaders who do it for money... editors>>: No, I'm an editor working for free for one person. <<What's with the plural? Once again, people's imaginings of my love life are nowhere near as interesting as the reality>>: This coming from one of the people who was discussing my potential three-somes. Well my current interest has flat out refused three-somes, so THERE! <<we're sure you have some>>: Who's this WE? I don't think anyone who met me at G2k1 would agree with you. <<The minions already fear you>>: As they should! <<Demona in that would kill all her credibility as a villian>>: But I bet she'd look even hotter. No, not in orange. Black, maybe. <>: Maybe next summer. And don't forget to stop in whatever city I'm living in at the time! <<The only differnce between him and Goliath, essentially>>: Is 4 feet. <<if I can make one, ANYBODY can>>: I doubt that. <<Do they have a secret handshake?>>; If so, can you teach it to me? ;-)

Okay, I'm tired and annoyed. I'm going to sleep.

Don't quote Dickens in MY apartment! -Trey Parker, Orgazmo
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, November 16, 2001 02:39:47 AM
IP: 64.161.26.245

***** TGS CR INFORMATION ANNOUNCEMENT *****

The updates will occur, hopefully, before this week is over. (I have been working on the pages a little each day and am almost done.) Thank you for your understanding and patience.

In other news, for those of you that didn't already know, Station 8 moved to the new server on Friday November 9, 2001. Go here for details: http://crossroads.dragonmists.org/fantasy/central/gncnews.html#1

***** END TGS CR INFORMATION ANNOUNCEMENT *****
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Head Admin of TGS CR Information
Friday, November 16, 2001 01:26:55 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

<< hits the delurk button>>

Anybody here having trouble with Yahoo email? I keep trying to check my inbox but I keep getting a Page Not Found nag screen.

Suggestions anyone? Anyone at all...

<< resumes lurk mode>>
Infinity
New Castle, IN, USA
Friday, November 16, 2001 12:51:40 AM
IP: 208.158.57.136

Gside - <<Do the Canadian boxers make it even better? >>

??????????

Actually, I meant fish in general is better raw, particularly sashimi grade tuna or yellow tail. Salmon is usually served smoked even in sushi.

What boxers, Canadian or otherwise have to do with is a mystifying remark. I suppose if they were paying for it, it would be better. Do they make good money?

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Friday, November 16, 2001 12:12:49 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Hey guys! If anybody's interested in the boring details of my reality, my best friend's house got broken into yesterday, and all of her jewellery was taken, most with major sentimental attachment (grandmothers and great-grandmothers engagement rings, for instance), and I'm upset and angry on her behalf. *growls* Scummy bastards made my 'other mum' cry (yes, we're the type of friends who share family). I'm also on this really obsene exercise kick - I've taken the dog for a walk every day this week, and never for less than half an hour. I think I might be going nuts, or something ;).

Stephen> >I have a car now< Whoo! Congratulations.

Terrky> >ya know what? IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE!< *g* Thanks. One up side of this bizarre merging of obsessions - my physiology lecturer thought I was a _wonderful_ student, thanks to all the relentless questions I asked him. :) >ok, nout the turning to stone thingy, i'm not looking for a direct answer, but can that be scientificly explained, or do we just assume that it is some sort of spell?< Gargoyle cells contain a photosynthetic organelle that causes the cell to harden when it encounters sunlight, providing it with energy, much like mitochondria found in humans. Well, that's my theory anyway. Click on the link, and it should take you to all my science stuff. The first one might explain the whole stone thing more clearly (although I'm thinking of updating or rewriting it at some point to include _how_ the stone appears), and the second one is just a bizarre ramble on Earth and the Universe, really. :)

Mooncat> >Yay! I just bought a new car< Wow, it's a new car buying spree! Congrats! Here's hoping it's more lucky than your last one. :)

Siofra> >Being the klutz that I am I managed to almost get myself killed this weekend. < OooWCH!

Tim> *blinks* Well _that_ was an extreme reaction. Was there a particular reason you exploded at Siofra specifically? Her statement wasn't any worse than my smartarse remark about Kings Cross at Mardi Gras, and only a little bit later, why didn't I get a rant like that? *pouts* I'm feeling all left out now.

JackaL! *tackle hugs* Yer back! >My repeating thought was, "I'm sorry I brought you here."< I think a lot of parents felt that way. It's awful. When I was growing up, stuff like this didn't happen. No, I take it back. The atrocities happened, but it wasn't in my face, and it never turned to major war-talk. But I don't think you should feel guilty for your son being alive right now. Every generation hopes the next generation will learn from their mistakes. Maybe your son will be part of the generation who finally do. >I'll try and make sure to come in here everyday, or atleast everyweek, You ppl need me ..... BAD.< Admit it, you're just addicted to the place. I swear, it leaves nicotine for dead. :)

Josh>>How come you always post right after me?I just wish all writers would use them.< That, and spellcheck. >Cool! Do they get paid?< There's a name for proofreaders who do it for money... editors. :) >that's tough to do. I'm dedicated, and more importantly, I have no life.< *l* What is this 'life' that you speak of? >I'm sure that thrills your boyfriends beyond compare.< What's with the plural? Once again, people's imaginings of my love life are nowhere near as interesting as the reality. :)>Except that he's arguing that it WOULDN'T work.< True. But he brings up some interesting points, like the cliff face, for instance. >Sh*t! She's on to me.< Ah-ha! I knew I wasn't just being paranoid! >Maybe *I'M* SJ's evil twin.< It's a tough call. >What charm?< Well, we're sure you have some. It's the searching for it that's sucked them in, right? :) >Everyone who asks me a question about computers has that look.< The minions already fear you. >Demona...Anything that has you violating decency laws can't be good.< Exactly! >What I wouldn't pay to see that.< I'll give you the run down: Movie started - she blushed. The blush stayed until an hour after the movie ended. >Yes, but you're halfway around the world. If I lived Down Under, I wouldn't even CONSIDER going.< Oh, I wouldn't come over just for the Gathering. The US is one of the places I've wanted to visit for most of my life, so I was just hoping I could be in the right place at the right time. >define "service".< Isn't this how that debate got started last time? :) >I can't count that high.I wouldn't put it past him to tip one end-over-end without any trouble though.< Yeah. The only differnce between him and Goliath, essentially, is that his muscles aren't as long, and Big Lavender's are larger. >To Quote MacBeth: "You'll have to do better than that!"< Hey Gside, I think he's trying to challenge us! :) >WOMEN DRIVERS NO SURVIVORS!< :P Of course, we voted all the others off the island. >No thanks, I choke on small bones.< *LOL!*

Lynati> >I checked out your site; it confused me (as many computer sites do) but looked pretty cool.< Yeah, you're not the first to say some parts were confusing. That's why I put up a preview - so I'd know what to fix up. >I’d like to volunteer to be a proof-reader.< Yea! Thanks! :) >But if you accept me, you are going to have to warn the writer(s) that I may be a tad slow, what with my current workload and all.< Sure. Maybe I'll put something in the questionaire, asking people how often they produce something/how often they can proof read. That might make it easier. >Everyone keeps telling me I need to get a site, after I've told them I don;t know how to manage one. They say I'll "learn".< It depends on how pretty you want it to look. I mean, you could write a fairly bland web-page in Word, just by setting it out as a document, saving it as a webpage and using the 'insert:hyperlink' function. Writing websites is a lot easier than you'd think, trust me. I mean, if I can make one, ANYBODY can. :)

SOROW> >Great news concerning my grades, I made an A on both my journalism test and paper!< Good on you!

Coyote> >Unfortunately I get to spend my day off tomorrow performing reconstructive surgery on my mother's '99 Escort (she got knocked around in an accident today). :(< Poor thing. Thank god she's not too badly hurt.

Greg> >Well, I just got fired today.< That's wrong, really wrong. At least you've got another job lined up.

Archwolf> I read your fic, and I really enjoyed it. Only thing I can suggest is to be careful when it comes to the time lines. Setting a fic in the future, especially when so much has happened, can get confusing for the reader. That's just a tip, not a fault with your work - you've handled it really well (and gotten me all curious in the process :)), but it's something my own experiences have tauught me to be careful of. >Woke up to day and guess what? I cared.< Glad to hear it.

Jan> >Heh, I'm a member of a "secret society" *giggles* < Do they have a secret handshake? :)

Todd> Good luck with the interview!

Gside> >If you think about it, psychology could be considered a sub division of neuroscience< Good point. >Not much to say, my father was my 7th grade general science and 9th grade bio teacher (including reproduction). He was also an adminisrator for a good portion of my ten years at the school. Should Daniel Johnson ever post regularly again, he should be able to confirm parts of this.< That would have been intersting, to say the least. >Mostly, but I'd also say it to just about any male here. Or female, for that matter.< We're just a pack of Prince (and Princess) Charmings. >Only came upon the picture a couple times, but my father went into it at most family gatherings, when he made peoples' muscles lock up.< For some bizarre reason, I suddenly got a mental picture of Spock explaining the Vulcan Death Grip using the little feet example! :) >But if it could replace carbon in organic molecules, could it increase the strength of the feet, making the entire muscle able to pull harder? I'm not quite sure about comparative bond strengths of carbon versus silicon.< I hadn't thought of that. It's possible, but I'll have to look into it a bit more. I know muscles are made up of myosin and actin filaments, but I'm not sure what the carbon concentration in them is, and I'll have to check my chemistry text to see the differences between carbon and silicon bond strengths, since I don't know about that one either.

Mooncat> >I lost not only all my Immortal Blood files, but all the Garg Fan Fic ideas and scraps, outlines and notes for all the Garg fan fic I had already worked up.< You poor thing! I feel like I should be sending you a condolences card, or something.

SJ> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

Narnia> I'm another one who didn't notice the analogy. I realised on the LAST PAGE of 'The Last Battle', and felt really intelligent and proud of myself for seeing the religious similarities, until I read an article on CS Lewis and discovered he'd been doing it throughout the entire series. That brought me down to earth pretty quick. ;) It's too subtle for most kids, to be honest. When my grade 4 teacher read us 'The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe', even though we had kids from every major religion in the class, none of us even noticed. We were all just glad the cool lion came back to life and ripped the witch to shreds. :) If Disney is stupid enough to change the story because of some ridiculous PC-esque BS... actually, Disney probably WOULD be that stupid.
Ah hell. I wonder if I can buy the BBC versions on video somewhere.

TTFN!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.msn.com]
Friday, November 16, 2001 12:10:54 AM
IP: 203.25.148.61

Gside: <There's always pine>
Nope. Pine isn't on the servers. And there is no way in frell I am touching the stuff on those servers!
<It could use some alone time>
Don't all heads need some time alone?
<But it's hand made>
Can you imagine how much 'material' he would need to make a candle like that?

I am a geek. Maybe I should get them from you!

Yeah... but that's about it.

Ok... I am scared now.
<Did you remember to drill air holes?>
Open top box.
<And I will probably be one of them>
That would be... unfortunate.
That situation must be remedied. Maybe we should do something like they are doing for Coa on tha Sexy Losers BBS. ;)
<Do the Canadian boxers make it even better?>
But where are you going to get boxers for a Salmon?

Christine: <in all my con-going experience, the woman at G99 is still the only one I've seen with eyeballs painted on her cleavage>
A shame, really. What is needed is some woman with really large breasts to draw and paint really detailed eyes on her breasts! ;)

You know attendance will go down because of that!

Imzadi: <So THAT'S what they're calling it now>
Only for Xander. I mean, I seriously doubt he could call it a python!
<Well, as soon as their new sound blaster card works on my G4, I will!>
Maybe some day.
Until then, let us Win2k’ers have the 50MB drivers.
<How is that any different from good willows bod?>
Bad Willow wore revealing clothes!
<Money is no object>
Wish I could have that attitude, but unfortunately, I pay bills.
<So the rest of us can read your posts>
Ah, no one else is important!
<So they don't fire at ME you fool!>
But if you don’t have a bullseye, they will know you are important!
<What a waste of perfectly good nukes!>
True... but it would be fun!
<Hopefully it will come out for mac soon, like Bungie promised>
I just hope it comes out for Windows... or an emulator comes out. Doesn’t matter to me.
<God WHY? Your monitor doesn't display that res. No one's does>
Printers. Poster printers. And photo manipulation. Start with the highest quality possible, then export lower res.
I would REALLY like a 192 Megapixel camera like that!
<Then they can stop saying "My eyes are up HERE!">
I think that is why she did it.

Lee Shaw: <Are there new episodes of 'The Gargoyles Saga' coming soon?>
As mentioned MANY times in the past few weeks, YES THEY ARE COMING OUT!
The people writing TGS don’t get paid to do this. They have lives and other work.

Mandolin: <Yes, I'm biased against CBS in particular. It's a long story>
Let’s all gather around the fire and listen to Mandolin tell her CBS horror story!
(I want to hear!)

nukesgoboom: <thanks. the series WILL end in a few seasons?>
I have no idea. But it is a possibility. I just hope not.
<and why is it limited to another 198 years?>
In 2198, Brooklyn and Sata timedance to that time, so unless there is an overlap, I think it will turn into another series, like Future Tense or Gargoyles:2198
BUT, in all honesty, I doubt the main Gargoyles series will go past another 25 story years (At least constant. Maybe jumping ahead a few years, but you get my drift.)

DPH: <Damn, I can't use nuclear weapons because the place is too damn close.>
No... BUT you can use conventional explosives on the power lines going into the place!

Archwolf: <The clerk told him to wait and buy an XBOx because it was more stable.>
The profit margin and benefits for a Xbox are a lot higher then they are for a PS2
Fire Storm
Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:56:50 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! I'm going to have a nice weekend. My family has driven up and I get to see them for the first time since April.

Narnia Chronicles- I remember reading those when I was in grade school. One after another I had to read them, I had to find out had the story ended.

Happy B-day SJ!

Oh Gotta go
Later.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:41:47 PM
IP: 172.160.70.169

Fire Storm> <>: Did you remember to drill air holes?

Imzadi> <<there are simple things you can do to really piss people off, shatter their egos, and commit suicide>>: You mean having gay sex with their significat other?
<<a Berkeley CS professor? (I'm convinced only they can understand such completely broken english)>>: You're forgetting the ECE department. And linguists might actually have enough skills to understand it.
<<Just be glad you aren't an engineer>>: !$@# BJTs, and what makes this Fourier guy so hot anyway?
<<how is that different?>>: Time travel springs to mind.
<<His body is somewhere else!?>>: Doesn't everyone? I had to put it somewhere safe after that incident with the dean's leg.
<<Sorry about your exam>>: Thanks, but it could have been designed like that. However, with about half the points of the exam on that problem, it doesn't look like it.
<<There's no way you can call psychology a science>>: True, but that's only because they've been coming at it from the wrong side.
<<Very few people die virgins>>: And I will probably be one of them.
<<I've been thwarted again>>: Evli laugh.
<<We didn't need that>>: Sure you did. What you didn't need to know is that I sucked it all out.

Happy Birthday SJ.

Kyryn> <<fun trying to understand Japanese guests with limited English skills>>: Sounds like my day.

DPH> <<Some of it is the fact I hate really short programs and some of it is I get bored and optimize my code>>: I do believe those two tend to be contradictory ideals.

Archwolf> <<today marking 11 months since i had a drink... I care again>>: Congratulations on both counts.

Mooncat> <<Raw [salmon] is better>>: Do the Canadian boxers make it even better?

Na zdorov'ya
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:38:35 PM
IP: 165.230.240.114

Mmm... well, I'm feeling mellow. Must be the smoked salmon and cream cheese with dill. I actually don't like smoked salmon, but tonight I'm just going with it. It's fish, and that's always a plus. Raw is better, but tonight I can live with smoked *^_~* ... keeps longer that way, anyways.

hmmm... downloading some of the music files that got lost and trying to rework the lost page or two from my last fan fic. But the calorie high from the cream cheese, and the aspirin, are keeping me in a rather pleasant mood. Go figure.

Downloaded some art that also got lost, and it's kind of pleasant, if time consuming. This time around I took the effort to do individual sub files of each artists names, and now that I'm more familiar with the online fandom - yup it's all Gargoyle art - it's kind of interesting seeing the art and having a personality to connect it to now.

Realize that the whole reason I'm currently in Gargoyles fandom is because of Jennifer/Crazy Demona. And I didn't even know it at the time.

A friend of mine that is a cel collector sent me a color copy of a gorgeous female gargoyle while we were exchanging art hard copies. We send each other copies of cels and art we collect. And since my friend knew I like all cartoons, she wanted to show me some original character artwork by this artist she really liked. This gargoyle female really blew me away, and today I realize that the picture was done by Crazy D, and it's of Orin. Just really beautiful.

Because of that picture, when my cable company offered me a trial of digital cable, which includes Toon Disney, I took it to get Gargoyles, and that is mainly because of the picture of Orin by Jennifer that my friend sent me. It really whetted my Gargoyle's appetite. Seeing the series fresh, and in it's entire run, then sent me spinning into the on-line fandom and here I am.

And until I saw the art while downloading today, I hadn't connected it to the artist. *^_^* lol ... who turns out to be my on-line twin.

Now, if that isn't scary enough, I was all set to scan and show my anime con badges the same day Jennifer posted hers, but then my computer OS fragged on me and I'm not sure my scanner will work under XP. *mooncat looks dubiously at her scanner* -- cause I already know my printer doesn't. Have to wait for the weekend for my ex-boyfriend to do the computer fixit for me and get all my drivers squared away.
I shouldn't have touched that application disk Tuesday. I have hideous luck with that kind of thing. *~_~* I guess I'm lucky the computer didn't explode.

Well, back to the writing... and a little more salmon. I guess I can get to like the smoky flavor.

Raw is still best!
Mooncat >^,,^<
Mooncat
Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:21:38 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Greetings;

Quick post tonight.

I just saw Harry Potter...

It rocked.

and yes I know I'm 23 but it was still amusing and better written than most of the trash on both the big screen and in the book store.

Goodnight.
Yggdrasil - [eng050599@hotmail.com]
Ontario, Canada
Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:14:13 PM
IP: 24.102.228.58

*wanders in* Heya all!

Woke up to day and guess what? I cared. DUnno why. Maybe it has to do with today marking 11 months since i had a drink. maybe it is cause i found out that I didn't do half as bad as i thought i would on my japanese test (if i try really hard now, i can catch 1 work in 4 or 5 in Rurouni Kenshin). Maybe it's cause someone slipped something into my morning pepsi. Dunno, don't care. I care again.
Now that I'm done being silly....

SJ> Disney getting hold of Narnia>> Oh, HELL NO. if ther eis any justice left in the universe, this won't happen. I liked the Chronicles. I want to _continue_ liking the chronicles. While they are not sacred in anyway, they should damn well be left alone. after all, somethings is sacred!! ok, so maybe i'm not done being silly. One thing I'm glad Disney can't get their hands on is Elf Quest. man, can you guys imagine what kind of chop job they'd do on that? *shivers*

Our school IS&T department (which i have the fortune (?) of working for, has been playing around with a large scale packet sniffer and regulator. This has made gaming a living hell. I mean, I'm trying to play UT against a guy two floors up, and just cause he's on a different subnet, we're pinging at 300. Well, all that ends tonight. The school is too cheap to actually _buy_ packetteer, so the school has only been running an evaluation set up. it has to be shut down tomorrow morning. Finally, I can get fragged with no lag! oh wait...is that something to brag about?
*looks at system monitor* Hey!! a whole 5 hours since Winblows2k dropped on me. damn, it must really be as stable as they say.......

Oh, I heard a good one in Tower City the other day....A guy went into the game shop looking to buy a PS2. The clerk told him to wait and buy an XBOx because it was more stable.
Now, Xbox is made by microsoft. And one would think that, being a console, it was fairly stable. Guess what? The damn thing crashes left and right. I saw the demo set up die twice in 20 minutes.

I seem to be rambling all over the place tonight, so I guess I'll get going. I think i need to start dowloading more Arrogant Worms.

Shade and Sweet Water
Archwolf - [thearchwolf@hotmail.com]
Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:29:31 PM
IP: 137.148.203.213

It oughta be illegal to sell email addresses without the permission of the owner of the email addresses. 10 spams a day I get from yahoo. Blocking addresses do no good. My filter about blocking email that does not have my email address in it works only 50% of the time now.

If it wasn't so much damn trouble, I'd have my yahoo account deleted for 3 months, and then start all over with yahoo. 3 months should be long enough to get that email address off the lists. I was thinking if the letters to the editor of enough newspapers were spammed like we could get spammed, something would happen. I have one email address that has no spam going to it and NO, I am not going to list it anywhere. what is the best filter for sending all spam directly to the trash?

Imzadi - It's about time you deposited my check. I take it you finally needed the money. <<<so that means somebody will be able to keep me under control>>: Ooh me.> I have a simple plan to pay for it: gather sunlight to make energy and sell energy. I'm sure I could find plenty of people who buy energy and I could find plenty of people willing to sell the few materials I would need.

Gside - It's my approach to the way I solve programming problems. Some of it is the fact I hate really short programs and some of it is I get bored and optimize my code.
Right now, I have been going through code and cleaning it up and working on TGS stuff.

**DPH launches 7 missiles at Conway Supper Club in Conway, AR for playing such loud music that gives DPH a headache. Unfortunately, the place does not get the hint.** Damn, I can't use nuclear weapons because the place is too damn close.

How is that there is a seemingly never-ending supply of idiots who keep asking about the status of TGS? It's not like we didn't answer the question this week yet.

I'd like to start a pool placing a bet that someone new will ask the status of TGS productions daily for 5 days in a row BEFORE Timedancer premieres. Imzadi, I am sure that you will want to join this bet I am making.

I never post empty threats because I have a contigency plan in place for every threat. - DPH
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:26:05 PM
IP: 204.94.193.61

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SJ!!!!!!!! :) **hands over some chocolate cake** Hope you have a fun one, and be good. ;)
Ravyn
Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:23:26 PM
IP: 150.135.180.226

€€€€€You ppl. realize I'm a unrealistic being

Jesus!

::Applause:: Very good josh. Small "bone" joke, enticingly clever. I can tell you still have a child like mind, so I'll take it easy on ya! But you're my friend know wither you like it or not! We DO need holes in our head, we couldn't hear or breathe without them!

You shouldn't be giving me this kind of attention, my presence alone causes dark clouds. And thanks for devoting an entire post to me!!

SJ- Happy Birthday! Have fun committing unspeakable acts!

Jan- That's crazy funny!!

Visit our web site ppl!!!!!!
JIHAD!!!!! Fear nothing!
John Ashcroft AKA JackaL - [Jackal1127@hotmail.com]
Kabul, Afghanistan
Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:20:24 PM
IP: 205.188.196.57

Survivor: Another Tribal council and now Lindsey is out... good. I didn't like her very much - too whiney.

Christine> hmmmm... why did I join the Eastern Star... well, I'd have to say it's because it's a worthy organization, it's based around women of the Bible, they're charitable in what they do, and I was a Rainbow Girl ;) Additional perks will be that I get to wear a formal on special ocassions and I get a nifty looking star on my tombstone now. *L* j/k! I know a few of the ladies in ES and I have some male friends who are in the Masons.

I have discovered that a lot of the inmates in our jail are also excellent and extremely talented artists. None of them have ever had _any_ type of training and yet their artwork can be breathtaking. One inmate, Clifford, is familiar with Disney Gargoyles and I'm going to take some pictures of them to him tomorrow and he's going to attempt drawing a few for me :) (I call Clifford the big red prisoner) ;) Anyway, I will scan whatever art he draws for me :)

Lynati> speaking of scanning art.. I would LOVE to see some of your artwork!! =) I've included my email *points down to the email slot*

Greg> well, her being the owner AND the manager... that sucks.

heh, I saw a groundhog again today! whoa, those things are fat!! Also, when I got home my young cat had an injured chipmunk in the front yard. I don't think she was familiar with what to do with it once she caught it. Michael put the chipmunk in a box and checked it over (appeared to have a sore leg, no blood or broken bones that he could tell) and he took it over to the woods and turned it loose. He went into the garage and there was a dead snake and a dead mouse... the cats had a busy day. gross.

a phone call that I received today:
me: Barry County Sheriff's Dept.
caller: who's this?
me: Jan
caller: what are you?
me: best secretary that has ever walked thru the doors here
caller: do you put out?
me: well, I'm not cheap
caller: cost doesn't matter, the county is paying for it
me: how's that?
caller: I'm in cell 3.

It was my brother calling playing a joke on me.. I didn't realize it was him until after he said "cell 3" and then started to laugh. I could tell that someone was joking around with me and I was playing along, but the punch line caught me totally off-guard.
Yes, my brother is a very funny and weird guy. ;)

Lee> *nods* I found the same thing when I was able to watch Gargs on Toon Disney. I was a bit confused - especially since most of the episodes I had never seen before. I had to have help putting them into order. We taped a marathon that Toon Disney did, but I'm not sure if they are even in sequence.

Time for ER *waves and runs out*
Jan - [janmiller@mo-net.com]
Thursday, November 15, 2001 09:47:39 PM
IP: 12.110.237.2

Hmm..... umm... Servarius,....

<<Well, some of you can relate, others will not, but the Narnia Chronicles are very precious to those of us of a Christian faith. All of the Narnia chronicles are Christian allegories. You don't believe me, go reat "The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe", and even the most ignorant of Christian beliefs and practices could pick out several allegories right there. >>

One note: learned something about this the other year... CS Lewis actually made the CON with a mixture of just about ALL religions involved. ANY religion should be able to find something in them...not just us Christians...

<<Disney, of course, is the company known for taking political correctness to the extreme.>>
oh GOODie

<<My point is that Disney, the Great Beast Who Bears The Number of Man Upon Its Forehead, will take the Narnia chronicles, and leech them of all that makes them particularly relevant - the religious overtones of the books themselves. >>

So find a relative od CSLewis and beg them to sue the hades out of Disney if the screw about with it? It worked somewhat with the Pocahontas issues a few years back...

<<Now, I can hear some of you atheists gearing up. "So? Would that really be a bad thing?" Well, yeah, it would. First off, it would be butchering the author's original work, something he did not intend to be done, so that argument right there should be enough to convince you that, regardless of whether or not you agree with the material, censoring certain portions of it isn't the right way to do things. But let me give you a better example. Take the Harry Potter film. Harry is wildly popular, amongst everyone. Atheists love it. Christians, the ones not brainwashed by the Religious Right, love it. Now, assume that the company who bought the film rights decided to make the film, only they took out EVERY reference to sorcery, because they thought it would offend someone's sensibilities (in this case, that someone would be the religious folks whose faith does not originate in paganism). It'd be stupid, right? It'd be a travesty to ruin the story like that. >>

::nods in Agreement.::
<<The BBC films that were made of the series not too long ago (the 80s, I believe) are a prime example of the books done right - allegories kept intact. If a company makes the books now....if DISNEY makes these books into films....than they will be butchered for the sake of political correctness. And that's something I can't stomach. >>

Here's my question.... why can't they just take the older films and re-digitize them or whatnot.. why make new ones to begin with?

::moves on:: anyway... Life is stupid... people are stupider.
I've got a major test tomorrow and about 6 weeks of backlogged HW to try and get working on.

I'll catch people later... watch for me in AIM for random TGS chats if you're interested. I'm FaileasDreugan or KrailsAingeal .

nitenite!

Aingeal - [ladynewill2u@hotmail.com]
Thursday, November 15, 2001 08:08:48 PM
IP: 207.42.162.18

fs- thanks. the series WILL end in a few seasons? and why is it limited to another 198 years? oh, ill find out by reading im sure, but i would appreciate it if you would tell me. thanks much! :)
nukesgoboom
Thursday, November 15, 2001 07:46:42 PM
IP: 24.4.252.36

BISHANSKY - Wait until you start on the Silmarillion and meet Morgoth. (Morgoth was the original Dark Lord in Middle-earth, whom Sauron had to be a flunkey to).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, November 15, 2001 07:36:43 PM
IP: 63.183.39.171

I must confess that I'm not really a fan of the Narnia Chronicles. I read "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" several years ago, and it didn't grab me. However, if they release movies on them, I would not want Disney to de-Christianize the series. I can't stand seeing any work of literature butchered like this. Out of respect to the author and its fans if nothing else.

Also, while I am an Atheist (my mother was a secular Catholic and my father a secular Jew), I do confess to finding Christian Mythology to be quite fascinating all the same (particularly "Revelations"). I'm currently reading "Lord of the Rings" and am having fun pointing out the Catholic themes in it... a no brainer being the death and return of Gandalf.

For the record as far as villains go, I think Sauron makes Satan look like a Sunday School Teacher (that is not a jab at Churches btw) ;)
Greg Bishansky
Thursday, November 15, 2001 07:19:24 PM
IP: 216.179.1.33

*shudder* I hope that they don't succeed in doing some de-Christianized version of the Narnia books; that would utterly ruin them. Actually, only thoroughly "oversensitive" atheists are likely to be that seriously disturbed by the Narnia books, since the allegory is quite unobtrusive. I was brought up in a devoutly Christian household, and yet it took me several years to realize that Aslan's ordeal at the Stone Table, murder by the White Witch, and subsequent restoration to life was based on the Crucifixion and Resurrection. (A friend of mine whom I introduced to the books originally thought that Aslan's return to life was simply a case of C. S. Lewis having to write himself out of the corner that he'd written himself into, in fact). If you're not deliberately looking for them, you're not likely to consciously recognize them.

(Properly speaking, Lewis didn't intend the Christian elements in the Narnia books so much as an allegory as rather a sort of "What if Christ were to incarnate in a different world than ours, one inhabited by talking animals rather than by humans?" So that Aslan is a lion in Narnia since that's how its talking animal inhabitants would most comprehend him).

SEVARIUS JR. - Good comments on "Angel", but what's a dhampir? The word sounds familiar, but I can't quite identify it.

* BRIEF ANGEL SPOILER *

I've been wondering myself if Angel might wind up finding himself at odds with his son, somehow. Not only because of the prophecies, but also because heroes who have sons usually wind up with that sort of problem; Goliath with Thailog, Arthur with Mordred, King David with Absalom, etc. It would certainly be terrible, given just how profoundly moved and almost excited the guy is at discovering that he's going to be a father.

The interplay between Holst and his demon partner is quite good, especially the contrast between Holst's grim and serious tone and the demon being a bit more of a wisecracker (and with the feeling that he has his own agenda). I'm looking forward to the big confrontation next week between Holst and Angel.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, November 15, 2001 06:47:05 PM
IP: 168.191.109.87

Lee> <<Are there new episodes of 'The Gargoyles Saga' coming soon? Or has the whole endeavour bit the dust at some point?>> *sigh* I'll field this one. Lee, you just asked the one question guaranteed to drive the TGS staffers who frequent this board absolutely nuts.

I'm on staff, so I'll just say this: We are doing Breakdowns for two cycles at once right now. Another cycle is still being written. The majority of the TGS staff has been bogged down with Real Life - full-time jobs, etc, that have nothing to do with TGS.

Trust me, if TGS had bitten the dust, there would be a notice to that effect on the site. "Hiatus" does not mean "canceled." We're not a lying broadcast network like CBS. We're just ordinary people who aren't getting paid to do this.

(Yes, I'm biased against CBS in particular. It's a long story.)
Mandolin
Thursday, November 15, 2001 06:26:12 PM
IP: 65.9.246.205

Thanks, Ed. Guess it's just that the people at Toon Disney that are clueless.

Another question for anyone out there. How do I email the guys who do 'The Gargoyles Saga'? I just tried mailing to the address given at the site (tgsfeedback@email.com), but it wouldn't work. Anyone know what the problem might be?
Lee - [cyberklaw@yahoo.com]
London, UK
Thursday, November 15, 2001 05:23:33 PM
IP: 212.127.20.3

Lee: "CITY OF STONE" was run about three weeks ago, so was "REVELATIONS" and so (I think) was "DOUBLE JEOPARDY". "OUTFOXED" was replaced by "DEADLY FORCE" though and then half way through they skipped to Goliath Chronicles episodes. I can't work out the order and haven't been able to catch it for a while. I've tried mailing Toon Disney UK to try and get details of which episodes will air, but it doesn't seem like it will. Anyway, all of the episodes bar "OUTFOXED" have aired. That's the only one that really might be considered insensitive to show (since it involves a potential airship-building collision).

SJ: Ah, the BBC Narnia series. I remember watching the "Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" series when I was about 5 or 6, and funnily enough I just dug out my tapes a week or so ago. Except for that bit where they mention Aslan and the music starts playing and they take some massive period out of the episode to have them all looking up without knowing who the hell Aslan is. Anyway, you're right, they were pretty cool and a new version should not be 'Disneyfied'. Or 'modernised'. Or indeed 'Americanised'.
Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London
Thursday, November 15, 2001 04:45:33 PM
IP: 172.191.42.131

****Kyryn climbs through the window. Her hair is rather frazzled from jet's backwash.****

Josh><<How did you understand that question? Are you really a Berkeley CS professor? (I'm convinced only they can understand such completely broken english).>> Well, I almost majored in CS, but decided that English Lit was easier (although the programming courses were fun as electives)! I was a library systems admin for a while, which means that I can understand the tech end of things and still translate to ordinary folks. Then, to top it off, I've been doing guest relations for an anime convention for several years (fun trying to understand Japanese guests with limited English skills). Actually, that wasn't bad compared to what some of our authors at my current job send to me. ;)

SJ> Ya know, sometimes it's real tempting to just shoot the messenger so he won't bring any more bad tidings. ;)

Later, All!

****Kyryn, deciding that the shadows and the window are too dangerous, opts to leave by the main door. She just misses getting run over by a herd of crazed lemmings.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Thursday, November 15, 2001 04:36:15 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Something else I'd like to ask, if anyone thinks they can answer. Are there new episodes of 'The Gargoyles Saga' coming soon? Or has the whole endeavour bit the dust at some point?
Lee Shaw - [cyberklaw@yahoo.com]
London, UK
Thursday, November 15, 2001 04:12:43 PM
IP: 212.127.20.3

Okay, I'm back... and I'm going to try to semi-catch up.

**BUFFY SPOILERS**

*sigh* It's official; I'm fed up with the show. Yeah, I thought the amnesia was funny, yeah, the sight of Spike in that suit and the hat with flaps had me howling... but not only do they seem to be going for a Buffy/Spike pairing, they're going to be dragging it out into an utter angst-fest. At least Angel's still on.

**END SPOILERS**

Todd> Heck, I'd just like to see her reaction to the movie itself... although the Scooby Gang probably knows better than to even let her SEE it. :) Xander and Anya are currently my fave couple on the show, and I'd like to see more done with them - hey, maybe they'd take Gunn's advice to Angel and go to Vegas. (Anya in Las Vegas... oh, dear Lord...)

And I do hope you get that job.

Stephen> Good to have you back, even if you're not going to be posting as much.

Mooncat> Sorry about your old car, but I'm glad you've got a new one... Regarding the lost fanfic, though - ack! That's terrible! Do you at least have your finished stuff posted somewhere? (I haven't been to the Garg fanfic archive in a long time...)

Siryn> Thanks for the link!

SJ re: Narnia films> <<*Disney* wants the rights and will do just about anything to get them>> AAAHHH! No, no, no, NO!!! I'm dreading what they'll do if they get their hands on it. And from a literary standpoint, if they try to wring it dry of Christian allegory (or any kind of religious symbolism) to be politically correct, they will just ruin it. You take any literary work that relies heavily on religious allegory and then try to strip out the allegory so as not to "offend" anyone, the result is going to be a bland, watered-down bad copy. I think even my Dad, who's a staunch atheist, would agree with that.

Well, it's 4 p.m., and I'm leaving in 15 minutes... so that's all for now.

Mandolin
Thursday, November 15, 2001 03:59:06 PM
IP: 199.173.224.2

OK, I'm in need of some help.

I live in the UK, and have recently rediscovered Gargoyles. It's currently airing on the Toon Disney channel here at 2 episodes per day. It'd great because there are a ton of episodes I haven't seen before (pretty much all of season 2).

But, I have found myself annoyed and confused about the way they've completely screwed up the running order, even leaving several episodes out. For example, they skipped the entire 4-part 'City of Stone' story, as well as the episodes 'Outfoxed', 'Revelations' and 'Double Jeopardy'.

Now, either Toon Disney have completely lost their minds, or there are other reasons. Since the series is set in Manhattan, I suspect its likely some episodes may have been deemed unsuitable to be shown right now due to what happened on september 11.

So, I'm asking anyone who's seen the shows I mentioned above, do they feature the World Trade Centre at all? Could that be why Disney won't show them? Or is it just that the people at Toon Disney are idiots?

Any help would be appreciated.

Lee Shaw - [cyberklaw@yahoo.com]
London, UK
Thursday, November 15, 2001 03:59:06 PM
IP: 212.127.20.3

Well, call me the bearer of bad tidings.

Seemingly good news: with the excitement and buzz of the new LOTR movies coming out, there's quite a bit of interest now in bringing the "Chronicles of Narnia" to the big screen. Now...at first, this would seem like a good thing.

The BAD, very BAD, capital letters BAD, news is that it appears that *Disney* wants the rights and will do just about anything to get them.

Pardon me, but Disney will f!ck it up.

Why? Well, some of you can relate, others will not, but the Narnia Chronicles are very precious to those of us of a Christian faith. All of the Narnia chronicles are Christian allegories. You don't believe me, go reat "The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe", and even the most ignorant of Christian beliefs and practices could pick out several allegories right there.

Disney, of course, is the company known for taking political correctness to the extreme. A perfect example of this was this summer's release, "Pearl Harbor", which was made with different versions so as NOT TO OFFEND the Japanese. That's right. Yes, the Japanese are are friends now, but back then, they bombed the hell out of us. And yet the movie was made to make them look...well, downright noble at times.

My point is that Disney, the Great Beast Who Bears The Number of Man Upon Its Forehead, will take the Narnia chronicles, and leech them of all that makes them particularly relevant - the religious overtones of the books themselves.

Now, I can hear some of you atheists gearing up. "So? Would that really be a bad thing?" Well, yeah, it would. First off, it would be butchering the author's original work, something he did not intend to be done, so that argument right there should be enough to convince you that, regardless of whether or not you agree with the material, censoring certain portions of it isn't the right way to do things. But let me give you a better example. Take the Harry Potter film. Harry is wildly popular, amongst everyone. Atheists love it. Christians, the ones not brainwashed by the Religious Right, love it. Now, assume that the company who bought the film rights decided to make the film, only they took out EVERY reference to sorcery, because they thought it would offend someone's sensibilities (in this case, that someone would be the religious folks whose faith does not originate in paganism). It'd be stupid, right? It'd be a travesty to ruin the story like that.

My point exactly.

The BBC films that were made of the series not too long ago (the 80s, I believe) are a prime example of the books done right - allegories kept intact. If a company makes the books now....if DISNEY makes these books into films....than they will be butchered for the sake of political correctness. And that's something I can't stomach.

***ANGEL SPOILERS***

To throw out some Buffy spoilers, next week Amy gets turned back into a human. Finally. It's only taken like 4 years or so.

Anyway, as rather lackluster as I find Buffy to be this season, Angel is THAT much better. Interesting plotlines, intriguing new villains, cliffhangers galore...

The entire Darla baby plotline is interesting so far. I'm not sure where they are going with this, but I have a theory. Apparently, the baby is human (unless...he's a dhampir!!!); whether or not it will grow up to be Damien the Antichrist remains to be seen. And everyone from Wolfram & Hart to a vampire cult is after it. What are expectant parents to do?

We see Holtz again, and his relationship to Sahjhan the time demon, who, IMO, is a rather fascinating character. I enjoyed his dialogue, and I want to know more of his motivations for destroying Angel and Darla. I also think that perhaps Holtz is just a pawn in a larger game involving Sahjhan...does this have something to do with the Tro-Clon? This weeks' cliffhanger sees Angel face to face with Holtz for the first time in over 200 years, and Darla about to give birth.

My theory about the child is this: Holtz will get him. Think about it. Angel and Darla destroyed his family. What better way to get back at them than to take THEIR child away? It'd be a perfect slap in the face. I think it'd be cool, story-wise, for Holtz to take the child with the intent of raising it by himself (it'd be wonderful irony if the child born to two vampires would be raised to be a vampire hunter), but in reality they'll probably op for the easy route and just have Holtz attempt to kill the kid. Either way, it should make for some dramatic episodes.

Oh, and Michelle Branch was the young woman who was singing in the Bronze at the end of Buffy this week. Her album, "Spirit Room" is out now. Check her out at www.michellebranch.net

***END SPOILERS***

Now I'm off. It's my birthday, so I gots to leave to committ unspeakable atrocities. Or just to go out for dinner. Or maybe both. I mean, the gentleman's club isn't quite open this early...

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Thursday, November 15, 2001 03:01:34 PM
IP: 207.172.11.148

Thanks to everybody who gave me good wishes about the interview. It turned out quite well, actually, though I don't know for certain if I've got the job yet or not.

Here's a twisted little idea that I had for "Buffy": a crossover with "Monty Python and the Holy Grail". In it, the ferocious white rabbit blunders through a time warp leading from Arthurian Britain to modern-day Sunnydale, and proceeds to go on the rampage until Buffy has to hunt it down. Anya promptly comments that this proves everything that she's been saying about bunnies being evil.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, November 15, 2001 07:45:51 AM
IP: 168.191.109.78

Did you ever have one of those milleniums? sigh... My tragedies continue. I thought I'd pulled the file with all my Gargoyles Fan Fic writing in it, before reformating my computer.

I was wrong.

I lost not only all my Immortal Blood files, but all the Garg Fan Fic ideas and scraps, outlines and notes for all the Garg fan fic I had already worked up.

I hate those little square floppy disks and their tiny little limits. =( Apparently it saved the file folder name, but because of lack of space, didn't catch any of the contents!!!

The only bright note is that a few days ago I sent a copy of what I had of my latest unpublished chapter to my beta reader, about 96k out of the 100k file I had done when everything went south. With any luck I can rework the 4 or 6 K I lost and go on from there.

Well, it's 4am, I'm totally fragged. Will hit the sheets and pray my beta reader can save part of my sanity. The other bright note, is that part of what I planned for my Jezebel series I wrote out in e-mail which I did manage to save. yay! It's the barest bones, but at least it's something.

From now on I will back up all my writing on removable disk every week, so help me.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Thursday, November 15, 2001 05:20:04 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Oh, it'll be a trick getting all my work done. Not done by their given due dates, that part is easy. The trick will be to get all my work that's due before November 26 done by November 19th. The idea being that I won't have to do any work while I'm home for Thanksgiving.

Don't stand a chance, do I?

I had classes and appointments pretty much from 10AM straight through 6PM. That sucked. I was starving, because I didn't have time for lunch.

Hopefully I'll be able to get through tomorrow without a hitch.

Managed to get a couple assignments done today, so that was cool.

I had a doctor's appt today: the good news is that my blood pressure is normal. The bad news: THERE ISN'T ANY. I am a perfect physical specimen, just in case there were any doubts.

Alright, on to replies!

Jan: <<I'm officially a member of the Order of the Eastern Star>>: Some church in Utah says I'm authorized to perform marriages. <<it's like the female version of the Masons>>: I wasn't even aware that the Masons were all male. <<The manager is the one who deserved to be fired!>>: Unfortunately, its very difficult to fire your own boss. But if only he could...

Todd: How'd your job interview go?

Siryn: <<get a pre-final breakfast for my roomies and friends>>: You are SO sweet! If I ate breakfast, I'd be insanely jealous. <<Its the simple things you can do that make people feel a little more confident about themselves and feel all warm inside>>: So true. Conversely, there are simple things you can do to really piss people off, shatter their egos, and commit suicide. <>: I just need a single place where I can access all of the info. Going back and forth between this and S8 and searching for your name isn't exactly efficient. But I'm DAMN excited! <<Are anyone's travel plans to the gathering going to be affected because of 9/11 and the recent plan crash?>>: 9/11 changed NOTHING for me. <<Are you planning on driving instead?>>: From Los Angeles? Sure, I can think of no better way to spend a WEEK ;-) <<Or are you (west coast residents and international fans especially) thinking of not even trying to go to the gathering at all because of it?>>: I will be there if I have to take a nap and eat an ENTIRE cheesecake. <<please don't fight on my account guys>>: This isn't about you. This, like everything else men argue about, is about breasts. <<Although tiny letters IS an interesting way of meeting guys?>>: Hey, they're YOUR boobs. <>: Good luck!

Spacebabie: <<Angel boned Darla>>: I know that, but why is it human?

Caliope: Welcome back! <<How've you all been?>>: Eh, I've been better. <<I've been up to my ears in work>>: That's a lot of work. <<CSU Northridge>>: Hey! That's my neck of the woods. If you're there, we should hang. CSUN is about 20 minutes north of my house (well, everywhere in LA is 20 minutes from everywhere else, but that's not important). <>: Gah! Cursed ICQ. Get AIM!

JackaL: <<You're the man>>: I know. Niamhgold often refers to me as such. That or "daddy", but I have no idea what's up with that. Really. <<You ppl need me>>: Like we need holes in our heads.

Blue Eye White Dragon: Does the phrase "grammar check" mean anything to you?

Kyryn: << Hiatus means a break in the continuity of something>>: How did you understand that question? Are you really a Berkeley CS professor? (I'm convinced only they can understand such completely broken english). <<as a new season is completed, the staff will start posting episodes again>>: Yeah, right.

Skippy: <<Giles is getting his own show>>: He's interesting enough to carry his own show?

Revel: <<Yes my life is nothing but painting, and occasionally movies and reading. Lucky me. Could be worse>>: Just be glad you aren't an engineer. <<At 200 I'm throwinga bar-b-que and everyone is invited>>: Make it coincide with G2k2. <<sorry your site is not working>>: Vision is the first thing to go. Oh, wrong sight. <<I'll be flying in June>>: Ditto! <<If you are the Dark Messiah then I'm the King of Mars>>: Well at least you're not the King of Earth. That would really piss me off. <<You need that bummer sticker that says, "Where are we going and why are we in a hand basket.>>: I have that one! <<Where's the cream filling?>>: No comment.

Greg X: <<how much for property near Olympus Mons?>>: You can go be king over there, but then you can't have any of Earth. <<FOndly remembers the days of Spike and Drusilla and what a badass couple they were>>: So true. Although to be honest I still liked Spike when he first got the chip. Until he fell for Buffy, it was all good. <<considering that the manager is the owner>>: I figured that might be the case.

Stephen: <<car name>>: Bueller sounds great!

Patrick: <<Just gotta salute you for that comeback>>: Which I could take credit for it. It's my friend's line.

DPH: Finally deposited your check today. <<it's hard to count the number of bytes you put in a text file>>: Not to mention the fact that its not the same as the storage size, because of the way sectors work. <<so that means somebody will be able to keep me under control>>: Ooh me. <<who will fire in a random direction in the CR every second>>: Josh blows it up with a frickin' laser beam. <>: Not anymore. <>: Heh, you said wood.

FS: <<all Xander has to do is pull out a bunny!>>: So THAT'S what they're calling it now. <<Tell that to ATI...or Creative Labs>>: Well, as soon as their new sound blaster card works on my G4, I will! <<Bad Willows bod>>: How is that any different from good willows bod? <<the money thing>>: Money is no object. <>: Doubtful. <<like food>>: McDonalds. <<and G2k2>>: Highly overrated. <<Why would I want Word to corrupt it?>>: So the rest of us can read your posts. <<But if you count the time I have LIVED>>: Um...how is that different? <<"SIR! Why do we have these bulls-eyes painted on our uniforms?">>: So they don't fire at ME you fool! <<We will nuke a trench to the ocean!>>: What a waste of perfectly good nukes! <<There is bound to be emulators VERY soon>>: Hopefully it will come out for mac soon, like Bungie promised. <>: God WHY? Your monitor doesn't display that res. No one's does. <<And mayhap ye wish to have ye head separated from yonder body!>>: His body is somewhere else!? <<the women with big breasts tend to draw eyes on their breasts>>: Then they can stop saying "My eyes are up HERE!"

Gside: <>: I hate it when that happens. Sorry about your exam. <<In what way>>: The way that's impossible to read. <<If you think about it, psychology could be considered a sub division of neuroscience>>: There's no way you can call psychology a science. <<But I thought we liked Skippy>>: Oops, wrong skippy. <<Smaller than the assumption that someone who's never gotten any befre can get some in the future>>: Hardly. Very few people die virgins. <<No one ever said which axis it was going around>>: That's true. I've been thwarted again. <<I've got it right here>>: We didn't need that. <<When the sraff can't replenish itself>>: Or when they all die of Anthrax poisoning.

Christine: <<eyeballs painted on her cleavage>>: It certainly would save us males a lot of trouble. <>: No!? Bummer!

Alright sleepy time.

What if the volume and pressure aren't constant? Well, then you're fucked. -Angus McLelland, Physics 7b
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, November 15, 2001 03:09:29 AM
IP: 64.161.26.245

Fire Storm > in all my con-going experience, the woman at G99 is still the only one I've seen with eyeballs painted on her cleavage ... maybe I'm going to the wrong cons, but I wouldn't call that a trend ; )

Jen > glad you're liking it; you know I expect full and detailed feedback on every little bit!

Siryn > in all truth, 9/11 hasn't affected my plans at all because sadly, I wouldn't have been going to 2002 anyway.

Stephen > thanks; we had virus troubles of our own recently enough to really make me not want to go through that again. Good news about the car.

Jan > out of curiosity, what prompted you to join the Eastern Star?

AvMists reminder > still time to send in submissions for the Winter 2001 issue!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:36:53 AM
IP: 64.24.214.198

That was an ugly exam. I couldn't get the transistor to stay in the active state.

DPH> <<even qualified teachers admit my programming style in unique>>: In what way?
<<Will you be nicer to your kids when they drive you places?>>: Probably not.

Fleur> <<And psychology, perhaps>>: If you think about it, psychology could be considered a sub division of neuroscience.
<<sounds like an interesting story - spill it!>>: Not much to say, my father was my 7th grade general science and 9th grade bio teacher (including reproduction). He was also an adminisrator for a good portion of my ten years at the school. Should Daniel Johnson ever post regularly again, he should be able to confirm parts of this.
<<Are you just saying that to freak Josh out>>: Mostly, but I'd also say it to just about any male here. Or female, for that matter.
<<I'm guessing you had the same type of picture used to explain muscles as I did>>: Only came upon the picture a couple times, but my father went into it at most family gatherings, when he made peoples' muscles lock up.
<<The silicate concentration probably wouldn't have all that much of an effect upon the muscle fibre>>: But if it could replace carbon in organic molecules, could it increase the strength of the feet, making the entire muscle able to pull harder? I'm not quite sure about comparative bond strengths of carbon versus silicon.

Imzadi> <<What charm?>>: Oh, it's quite ineffable.
<<The problem with using aphrodisiacs is that you come off as desperate>>: But I am.
<<Damn skippy!>>: But I thought we liked Skippy.
<<Farsighted?>>: Slightly.
<<that's not necessarily a good thing>>: They won't know the difference.
<<That's a big assumption>>: Smaller than the assumption that someone who's never gotten any befre can get some in the future.
<<Worried you won't get the chance to make your own?>>: Not worried yet, but mostly resigned.
<<that wouldn't keep it spinning, just revolving>>: No one ever said which axis it was going around.
<<If she pays, great!>>: It'd come off my meal plan, and she's paying that off.
<<And you're worried that *i"m* hitting on her?>>: And you're saying that shouldn't earn me a slap in the face?
<>: You wouldn't believe how hard it is otherwise.
<<By murphy's law it will be just after he buys>>: Every now and then, Murphy takes a miss, but never for you.
Welcome back Calíope.

Revel> <<Hey! Where's the cream filling?>>: I've got it right here.

NukesGoBoom> <<anyone have an honest answer when they will end the stories?>>: When the sraff can't replenish itself.

Fire Storm> <>: There's always pine.
<<And mayhap ye wish to have ye head separated from yonder body>>: It could use some alone time.
<<And keep the candle>>: But it's hand made.
<<Well, that sounds interesting to me>>: I haven't gotten around to listening to them yet, but there are a couple interesting bits.
<>: I thought the lightsabre duel was pretty good.
I may have more to say to you later.

Now you get another mp3 reccommended by Wilek, Mme. Guilotine from the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:32:19 AM
IP: 165.230.240.114

Todd: <But she has the attitude, and that can be scary even when you're dealing with mundane skills and abilities.>
True... But all Xander has to do is pull out a bunny!

Imzadi: <A driver should not take more than a few k>
Tell that to ATI... or Creative Labs.

God, lets hope so. And if Bad Willow comes back, I hope it is a cross between Bad Xander's mind and Bad Willows bod and taste in clothing.
Now THAT would be a kick ass Bad Willow!
<Don't you have an exo-frame to build>
But there is that whole designing and testing thing. And the money thing.
I got better things to spend my money on.... like food. And G2K+2. And a house.
I'll get to it when I get to it.
Although, it is part of my planned G2K+2 costume, so that's pretty good.

My rammarg is unique to me! Why would I want Word to corrupt it?
<23. That's not high>
If you count from the time I was born to now. But if you count the time I have LIVED...
<Not counting the picture on my website, how stupid do I look?>
Then how do you plan on commanding your fodder... er... TROOPS.
"SIR! Why do we have these bulls-eyes painted on our uniforms?"
<Which will evaporate in the desert heat.>
I forgot it was landlocked. Oh well. We will nuke a trench to the ocean! ;)

There is no way in hell I am getting an Xbox just for that game, no matter how cool it is!
There is bound to be emulators VERY soon.
<NO ONE, and I do mean NO ONE, wants 12000x16000 pixel images of anything>
I want that resolution or better for my digital photos!

Niamhgold: <Hmmm, must be real life--you know, jobs, friends, school, etc. But that's just the word; I've never seen it myself>
Ah, that's no excuse!

Na. Use the force and crush his throat!

Patrick Toman: <Unless your name is "Bob Jones" it's really hard to fit 240 point font type on something the size of a business card>
But anything is better than size 8 black text on a dark purple background. (G99 Dallas)

Gside: <Still, there's always the pride from bein oldschool>
Ah, old school sux. And I have no idea what browser is on the Unix servers at work.
<Sorry, just a bit of Python worked in as pennance for skipping the last time>
To which I replied to in All Your Base.
<Mayhap your relationship with the Lady may be tilting towards the platonic side, should you be as deprived as us>
And mayhap ye wish to have ye head separated from yonder body!
There are two possible causes for such depravity. Lack of sex, as you point out, and lots of sex!
And, don't forget, I am MALE, which is reason enough!
<So I've heard, but as Mike might say, different strokes for different folks>
And pass the Kleenex. And keep the candle.

Well, that sounds interesting to me!
Watched those videos you put up a while ago... I must say, that Lodoss War one was alot better than what that music was originally for!

Archwolf: <With any luck, bring back Evil Willow. I liked her. she was evil>
She was evil, yes. But she lacked strategy... and thought.
Mix her with Evil Xander...

CrzyDemona: <Bottom line, con's don't give a crap if your nose is on someones boob. In fact, it tends to boost attendance!>
And the women with big breasts tend to draw eyes on their breasts!

DPH: <BTW, based on Terkky's IP address, where he is probably posting from?>
Kansas City, MO

Warpmind: <Buffy the Vampire Layer>
Ever see Friends?

Stephen Sobotka, Jr:<smacks mouse!>>
I shall now play 'The Bells of St. Abernathy' by using mice that are trained to squeak at a specific note when struck with a mallet! ;)

Jan: <Well, after last night, I'm officially a member of the Order of the Eastern Star>
Welcome to the Society. ;)

Blue Eye White Dargon: Ok... your post made no sense what so ever!

Greg Bishansky: <In that case, how much for property near Olympus Mons?>
On the mountain or near it? Most of the prime real estate in the top third of the mountain is already sold, but I have some on the bottom 2/3rds available for $750 an acre (Power, Fiber (Net, phone) provided. You provide life support).
Act now and save! ;)

NukesGoBoom: 
I am hoping for a couple more seasons at least.
Timedancer is limited to 40 years, the main story is limited to 198 more years, Pendragon won't go on more than another 20 (I don't think Arthur will survive much more than that), and the countdown to 994 in Dark Ages is already on.
Fire Storm
Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:08:35 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

DPH: <1,702,994,000 seconds>
Not 34 years. 54 years. 1,000,000,000 seconds is 33 years.
1,000,000 is 11 days.
Fire Storm
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:34:29 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

**PROGRAMMING**
Alright, I am halfway through a computer program I am working on. Damn, it's hard to count the number of bytes you put in a text file. Why? I am reading data from a binary file and putting it in a text file. Loading that text file is another matter, though, since my version of VB can't count the number of bytes in a text file correctly. That might have something to do with the data.

Yes, I have deliberately NOT mentioned working on this program so I will not make certain people concerned.
**END PROGRAMMING**

Wait a minute: I repeat my claim on the Asteroid belt. Just a reminder: I will have to have supplies shipped to me there on a regular basis so that means somebody will be able to keep me under control.

**DPH opens a portal and out comes a robot, who will fire in a random direction in the CR every second.**

Imzadi - I was baiting you and there are consequences for your action: the CR will suffer for your action.

SJ - Nooooooooooooooo. That is very bad news indeed. Not all anime are cartoons. Why can't the morons embrace the notion of 14-18 year olds watching anime? Or of adults watching anime? Isn't Toonami successfull because most of the programming is not dumbed down? I have one complaint against toonami, though: can't they spread commercial breaks a bit more evenly? 5 minutes into the show, they'll break into commercial and when they come back it's another 15+ minutes before the next break.

Heck, no wonder Japanese animation is doing so well in the US: most of it is not 'dumbed down' for kids.

BTW, 1,702,994,000 seconds is the equilivant of 24 years.

Crime is wasting.

GXB - good to know you're defining being fired as opportunity.

I walked for a mile today. Big deal, right? It is when you consider I have to rest up before and after walking to give my back so time to recover. Fortunately, it's my knees which are giving most of the problems.

**TF:RID**
In attempt to bring some people back, I am going to argue that there is no person in the CR who thinks G1 transformers are inferior to TF:RID.
**END TF:RID**

I am not board. I am not board. I am not board.
I am not board. I am not bored. I am not board.
I am not board. I am not board. I am not board.

I am not a piece of wood.

7 - 1 = 6
5 + 4 = 9
6 + 2 = 8
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 09:57:20 PM
IP: 204.94.193.72

oh, one more thing, does anyone know when all the stories will end? i mean, they cant go on FOREVER, anyone have an honest answer when they will end the stories?
NukesGoBoom
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 09:36:50 PM
IP: 24.4.252.36

anyone know what adventure brooklyn has in the year 2230? im was reading and it came up, can someone tell me?
NukesGoBoom
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 09:34:09 PM
IP: 24.4.252.36

Josh > Just gotta salute you for that comeback. LOL!
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 09:23:43 PM
IP: 66.72.205.206

Greetings all...

Fantastic news (and thanks for the info on the Sundance, Don!)... I found my old license plate from my first car! Now I don't have to spend up to 200 dollars for a new one! Which meas that if I get a low enough down payment on insurance, I should be on the road as soon as this weekend!

Still dunno what name to call this new car...still fielding any suggestions from the CR. Anyone got any suggestions? Anyone?

Bueller?

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 09:23:07 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

Jackal: No thanks, I choke on small bones.
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 08:01:02 PM
IP: 64.161.26.245

REVEL> <<If you are the Dark Messiah then I'm the King of Mars>> In that case, how much for property near Olympus Mons?

SJ> Time Warner must be stopped.

JOSH> <<Sorry about your job. Though somehow you don't sound too bummed, kind of like me when I lost my job.>> Nope, not at all. <<Yeah. A wussy character.>> ::FOndly remembers the days of Spike and Drusilla and what a badass couple they were.

JAN> <<> fired?? blah. I can't believe that they actually fired you after you waited for 2 hours for the manager to show up! The manager is the one who deserved to be fired!!>> Well, considering that the manager is the owner, she's not going to fire herself.

TODD> <<Sorry to hear that you got fired, and hope that your new job at Barnes & Noble will fare much better.>> Thanks. <<Oh, and I also hope that you enjoy the "Silmarillion"; it makes difficult reading at times, since it's written in an archaic style, but it's worth it.>> I'm sure it is. But I won't be starting it for a while. I'm going to finish "The Return of the King" first (I just started it today). Good luck with your interview btw.

SPACEBABIE> <<HUG >> Thanks :)
Greg Bishansky
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 07:56:58 PM
IP: 216.179.5.86

Kyryn: Thanks.

Blue Eye White Dargon - [pelletjg@hotmail.com]
Winter Park, Fl, USA
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 05:51:51 PM
IP: 24.27.227.39

Finished my series paintings yesterday, I thought it went well. Now on to Diptych.
Yes my life is nothing but painting, and occasionally movies and reading. Lucky me.
Could be worse.

My car currently has 189,000 something. At 200 I'm throwinga bar-b-que and everyone is invited.

Aingeal-sorry your site is not working, don't bite anyone... hard.

Siryn- Flying does not bother me, I did a report not too long ago for my Comm class on airplane safty and improvements. So I'll be flying in June.

Greg- If you are the Dark Messiah then I'm the King of Mars.

Mara- You need that bummer sticker that says, "Where are we going and why are we in a hand basket."

SJ- If cable TV must die let it die with dignity, right?

That I suppose is it, off to do more art and stuff of that nature.

"Hey! Where's the cream filling?"
-hostess ad- (a treat fo all you gutter minds out there, you know who you are)

Later

Revel - [Samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 02:30:37 PM
IP: 129.120.255.222

Spacebabie> Yep, that was the outfit Spike wore in the dream sequence.

Unfortunatley, Giles is pretty much gone for good. Anthony Stewart Head has been regularly commuting between the UK and Hollywood during the whole series. He's finally had enough of it and asked to be taken out of the show.

On the upside, Giles is getting his own show! Paramount, BBC and Joss Whedon have set up a deal to do a show featuring Giles in the UK. The downside is that it is at the moment only going to be shown on the BBC (maybe BBC America in a year or so) most likely it will get imported over here some way.

On the personal upside, I'm part of a sci-fi club that has several contacts in the UK that could record the show for us and the club happens to own a multi-standard VCR. So there is a good chance we can catch this show well in advance of ervyone else :)
Skippy The Klingon
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 01:33:12 PM
IP: 209.245.243.52

****Kyryn slowly fades into view****

Blue Eye White Dargon> Hiatus means a break in the continuity of something. In this case, it means that no new episodes are currently being posted, since the staff is working on new episodes. It means that as soon as a new season is completed, the staff will start posting episodes again.

Josh><<: GODDAMN! That's a lot of miles. I don't remember the last time I was even IN a car that had more than 90.>>My mistake, I checked the odometer last night -- it's got 275,000 miles. ;)

SJ> Ack! That is NOT good news!

Jen and Patrick> Didn't mean to imply that you folks don't know about contractual dealings with hotels. :) I just brought it up because of the subject and the fact that we just had a con here in Dallas (Uncommoncon) go belly-up two weeks before the show because of issues with the hotel contracts.

Coyote> Good look with the reconstruction. Those Escorts are tough little cars.

Later, All!

****Kyryn thinks about vanishing into shadows and remembers what happened yesterday. Instead, she dives out the window and just misses getting hit by a passing plane.****

Kyryn
Denton, TX
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 01:19:14 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

What the Hiatus. That away mention on the Current Episode page. Is it a web site or something. If it is email or post the URL.
Blue Eye White Dargon - [Pelletjg@hotmail.com]
Winter Park, Fl, USA
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 01:00:07 PM
IP: 169.139.180.45

Josh! You're the man! I almost lost site of myself there and you helped me regain focus! ::sigh of relief::
I'm very pleased by this, since you like pleasing me soo much, why don't you suck me off! LoL

::Smiles:: BTW ppl, yall should visit this web site I have linked, It's me and my friend's! hehehee Sign the guestbook!! .... Please.

God I feel great this lunch time on this fine Nov day.
What's the deal with BtVS?!?
God, poor Tara. Come to think of it...
God, poor Spike.

I'll try and make sure to come in here everyday, or atleast everyweek, You ppl need me ..... BAD.
::Walks away, laughing into the darkness::
John Ashcroft AKA JackaL - [Jackal1127@hotmail.com]
Ga, USA
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:33:36 AM
IP: 152.163.201.212

HI!!!!!!!
*prances in and HUGZ everyone* ^_~ *

How've you all been?! I'm sorry I've been gone for so long, I've been up to my ears in work (and still am, but shhhh ;P)

Sooooo, hey, I wont be going to slave camp Disney after all, the eliminated the summer program, I'd have to go a whole semester, and I dont think so ;P But I AM (most likely) going on exchange next year, probably to CSU Northridge, if I have my way, if not, CSU Hayward or Northeastern Illinois University....*shivers at the mear thought of that much cold :P* But who knows where I'll end up! Hey if any of you guys live near these places, let me know, maybe I'll get some inside info from ya! ^_^

Anyway, besides that my life is pretty much normal (as normal can be :P) I'm going to stay at a fansy shmansy hotel this weekend with my friends which promises to be fun, and after that, back to work -_-;;...but hey, thats life, right? :P

Well, I've gotta get going, I'll try to stop by more often, really!!! Love you all!!! *HUGZ for all*

OH! I have ICQ on weekends now, I dont remember the #, but heres my email addy, look me up guys! ^_^ Bye !!! *poof*
Caliope - [raquelmd@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 09:53:23 AM
IP: 136.145.83.178

Well my brother did it he got a tattoo on his arm last night. He described the feeling as “Someone taking their nails and digging into your skin and the nails are vibrating as it moves.” Ouch!

Sorrow>>> Congrats

GXB>>>HUG

SJ>>>Ah jeez we need to bring back the joyriders cause these two need a good joyride.

Siryn>>>Thanks for the gathering updates

Josh>>>Angel boned Darla

*******************BUFFY SPOILERS*********************

Stupid Will that was stupid, you play with fire and you tend to get burned.

Tara and Giles are gone now, I hope Giles comes back.

That was hilarious! Spike thinking that Giles is his father and his name is Randy

Buffy thinking her name is Joan. Anya thinking she was engaged to Giles

And was it me or did Spike’s outfit resemble the outfit he wore in Xander’s dream a couple of seasons

Ago?
*****************SPOILERS END*************************
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 09:39:08 AM
IP: 63.30.138.113

hehe..quick post before I run out and get a pre-final breakfast for my roomies and friends. (Its the simple things you can do that make people feel a little more confident about themselves and feel all warm inside!)

Josh> Not yet, I emailed Chris about it again this morning. If I don't hear from him by Friday, I'm going to assume he's majorly swamped with work and set up the page at a temporary location until he is able to set me up on gargoyles-fans. (Because I can't wait any longer..(for budget and guest reasons)and I know a lot of you guys can't either. (because you're all excited!) ^_^;;)

Oh, quick poll, this came up as a general concern..so I thought I would ask..I'll put a post on the Gathering Bulletin Board about it as well (in the discussion section).

Are anyone's travel plans to the gathering going to be affected because of 9/11 and the recent plan crash? Are you planning on driving instead? Or are you (west coast residents and international fans especially) thinking of not even trying to go to the gathering at all because of it? :)

I know they sound like "No duh!" Questions, or even maybe like a selfish one (its not meant to be that!) but I'm curious and I thought I would ask. ^_^

Crzy> Hehe. Thankyou for the support on the webpage. <:)

Patrick> Still waiting...I think I may need to CALL Jubes for the info.. -_-;;

Oh..please don't fight on my account guys..okay? <:) Especially over a silly thing like con badges..I mean all they are are a bit of paper, ink, and plastic, not really too much to get into a huff about.

Hmmm Although tiny letters IS an interesting way of meeting guys? ~_^ (okay..JK! I didn't really say that...gahh..its too early. ^_^;;)

Anyways, I gotta go study for two killer finals (that are tomorrow)

Again, if anyone has any questions, comments, rants, whatever, please email me, email gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com, or post in here or S8 comment room or on the Gathering Bulletin Board, and I'll be happy to do my best to accomidate you. <:)

Siryn - [siryn7@aol.com]
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 09:00:53 AM
IP: 24.93.24.2

GREG BISHANSKY - Sorry to hear that you got fired, and hope that your new job at Barnes & Noble will fare much better. Oh, and I also hope that you enjoy the "Silmarillion"; it makes difficult reading at times, since it's written in an archaic style, but it's worth it.

I'm currently trying out for a book-related job myself: a shelver at the local library (coming at an especially opportune time, I can't help but think, since they're moving it about a block away to a new and larger location). My job interview takes place today, and I hope that it goes well.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 08:09:01 AM
IP: 168.191.109.74

Well, after last night, I'm officially a member of the Order of the Eastern Star. heh. For those who are not aware of what the Eastern Star is... it's like the female version of the Masons. Heh, I'm a member of a "secret society" *giggles* It was nice - a bit more ritualistic than what I normally take seriously, but I'll manage ;)

Archwolf> *hugs* sorry you are feeling down. I hope that you are able to work through your emotions and begin feeling better about life and such soon :)

GregB> fired?? blah. I can't believe that they actually fired you after you waited for 2 hours for the manager to show up! The manager is the one who deserved to be fired!!

Thank you to all who wished me good health. =) It's amazing how the stress level diminished just when he said "no blockage". ^_^

Time for work... geesh, I really should plan my mornings a bit better. I run out of time =\
Jan
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 08:04:52 AM
IP: 12.110.237.94

Hrmmmm...

well, I got my dynamics test back. 73. Not bad, considering the mean was a 76. I'm still doing just below average in that class. If the professor is nice, that'll be a B-. If the prof is a bastard, it'll be a C+. Oh well, anything, so long as I pass. Even if I have to take a nap and eat a cheesecake.

Guess that reference.

nothing else of remote interest to report...except that Airport 2.0 and OS X 10.1.1 came out today.

replies.

Lynati: <<Ignore Josh>>: I cannot be ignored. <<New stories ARE coming>>: Liar. <<Are we organized enough here for someone(s) to get together and decide on this issue?>>: No, we aren't. <<Imzadi is often accurate>>: I haven't been wrong yet. You need to learn the art of compression. It really isn't hard, just use photoshop to save your images as jpg's and compress them by about 30%. It'll save a LOT of space. NO ONE, and I do mean NO ONE, wants 12000x16000 pixel images of anything. <<I’m always paranoid that the quality will make my work look bad>>: Much better that you annoy your audience by making them wait hours to download your artwork. <<it confused me (as many computer sites do>>: ...artist. <<you are going to have to warn the writer(s) that I may be a tad slow>>: And I know that writers just LOVE having to wait weeks for proofs. <<you don’t have to worry about fallign asleep and driving off the road>>: Where's the fun in that? <>: That's hardly an excuse these days. Websites are SO easy to maintain. <<that is going to be a problem, isn’t it?>>: I'd happily host them if you could cut them down to 300k. That's 300k, not 1.5M. <<Just my new hobby>>: Wow. And you do it so well, too. <<jpeg level to an "8" when I save them, regardless of the dpi>>: That's a huge mistake. Photoshop will tell you what the size of your image is in the "save as jpg" window. Just keep a limit on the file size, that's all.

Crzy: <<you don't go to conventions very often... do you>>: I have a life. <<You would have cried at Fanime>>: Too many ugly chicks? <<con's don't give a crap if your nose is on someones boob. In fact, it tends to boost attendance>>: Alright, its YOUR boob. <>: Ooh, such a great webmaster. For a small fee, I'll host it. <>: Beast trucks rule. <<You want space for a page... but you don't know how to put a page together>>: No, she just wants space for a bunch of pictures. <<what's wrong with the size of your pics?>>: They're bigger than a full copy of Microsoft Office. <<can you imagine having me as a class mom?? Scary huh>>: God yes! But you'd have been a cooler mom than some of the other class mom's.

Spacebabie: <<The baby is a boy! And its human>>: How did that happen?

Sorow: <>: You must be in humanities.

Shinigami: <>: I thought you didn't want us to think that.

Kyryn: <<My 1995 Saturn SL1 currently has 274,000 miles on it>>: GODDAMN! That's a lot of miles. I don't remember the last time I was even IN a car that had more than 90.

Coyote: <<reconstructive surgery on my mother's '99 Escort>>: I performed a RAM upgrade on my iBook...why do I have the feeling that's not quite as impressive. <<nothing a sledgehammer and some bondo can't fix>>: Engineer's Creed: If you can't duct it, f*ck it.

Patrick: <<when danger comes to play, they very bravely run away>>: LOL!

Greg: Sorry about your job. Though somehow you don't sound too bummed, kind of like me when I lost my job. <<It's a whole new character>>: Yeah. A wussy character. <<Gods, it's like an addiction>>: Its quite a power rush. I'd be addicted too.

DPH: <<you insist on legibility. Didn't looking at the checks I sent teach you anything about my handwriting>>: No, I said good grammar and spelling. Besides, its a check. Only the bank has to read it. <<How many people here on under 1,702,994,000 seconds old>>: How many people are interested in wasting more of those seconds calculating the answer to that question. <>: ::touch:: And you can't touch me because I have some stupid silly hi-tech device that prevents you from damaging me so THERE double stamps no erasies. <<how do I prevent anyone on ICQ from sending me an IM unless he/she is on my friend list?>>: Stop using it. I'm just a few days from dropping it myself. <<I'm sick of some of the IM spam I'm getting>>: Figured out a nice way around that on AIM, at least. <<maintaining a web system is HARD work and keeping fresh content there takes times>>: Bah. Update only as often as you need. <<did the mail service run this Monday?>>: No. <<How many federal holidays are there>>: Lots.

SJ: <<Michelle Branch>>: Who?

Archwolf: <>: Sounds like my roommate. <<fencing, school, work, it jsut....didn't seem to matter>>: It doesn't, in the grand scheme. <<but the newest of the components in my current box are 3 years old>>: Ah. Even Apple's warranty is out at that time scale ;-) <<so i don't pay $400 for a brand spankin new one when i build the new box later next month>>: Dude, I can get a GeForce3 for 20% off...now THAT is a piece of hardware. <<Buffy the Vampire Layer?>>: When they can get away with making it a full-fledged porn.

Stephen: <<to just christen it>>: Don't forget to break it in by having sex in the back seat!

Silvadel: <<Xbox coming out in 24 hours>>: I know its a microsoft product, but I WANT Halo. Too bad those bastards bought Bungie. It was supposed to come out for Mac first. grrrr...

Ooh, the sleep thang.

Pyrex Pickle Blowfish - Topper Harley, Hot Shots!
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 02:29:04 AM
IP: 64.161.26.245

Hi.. i think i'm still alive.. i'm not quite sure ::is eaten by the evil HW monster again::

Archwolf> good for you on getting fic up.. i'll let you know what I think as soon as I have time to think and read it.
Aingeal
Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:15:32 AM
IP: 207.42.162.181

Stephen: Okay then, let's see here ...
'89 Sundance, hm? Nice car, my mom had an '87 for a while, bought it new. Should be a four cylinder (didn't start putting sixes in 'em until '91), you didn't mention anything about it being turbo or anything, so I'll assume it isn't a turbo.
All right, I notice among the items ya mentioned the previous owner changed, the cap and rotor weren't on the list. Ya might consider at least the rotor ... that particular car's cap only has one contact, the one for the ignition coil (the individual wire contacts clip into slots on the cap).
Two things you're going to want to keep an eye on with that particular motor (whether it's the 2.2 or 2.5, they're kinda like bastard twins so they have similar quirks). One would be any ignition situation where the car inexplicably shuts down, then restarts after sitting for a while. Usually with other cars that would be an indication of a bad ignition module, but on *that* car it means you need a new ECU, or computer, or as I like to call it, a new brain.
Second is going to be the cylinder head. These particular engines are quite prone to head problems, as both of the 2.2's either myself or my mother have owned have blown heads. However, as long as decent regular maintenance is kept up on the engines, it should be fine. Most of the head problems emerge from the fact that a lot of 2.2 and 2.5 owners are negligent in regards to fluid changes and such. Just so long as you're punctual with your oil changes especially, you'll be fine in that department. :)
Coyote the Bando
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:55:43 PM
IP: 64.243.214.167

Xbox coming out in 24 hours. It is amazing how far video games have come (good and bad) since the old atari I used to play(and the 4 game(breakaway pong basketball something else)unit I had BEFORE the atari came out =)

I still have a real fondness for the old games like tempest, mr dos castle, etc.
silvadel
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:49:50 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

To use Firestorm's quote - DERN LOT BOYS! <smacks mouse!>

Had to comment on a few things:

COYOTE - Ack! I hope things are okay, after the accident... Here's hoping the damages aren't too expensive. (P.S. - Read on later. Need your Opinion O' Carmaster!) ^_^

CHRISTINE - Yeah, dang virus was so severe, I didn't dare send you any files until I was certain the infection was clear from my system. I still have the one book review... too late to add it in?

SJ - <eyes widen in horror> I dunno about you, but the quote from an old commercial sounds appropriate "Get a rope!"

Seriously, I hope someone in charge of the family that owns CN realizes just what a good this dude is, and keeps him from wrecking a good thing!

JOSH - We'll, It's not great yet... i still have to get insurance and a tag/plate on the car. After that, then we'll see. ^_^

And just FYI, the car I purchased isn't going to win any races or place in any car shows... it's nothing more than a 1988 Chrystler Sundance: 2 door sedan, but dang comfy even for my largeness. The owner just had new brakes, tires, cv joint, radiator, ac compressor, wires and plugs, and battery put in, and he admitted that there was a little body work done to the right front fender. But for half a grand, it's a sturdy little car.

Now, to just christen it, and then get a better job so I don't have to do fast food any more! Any suggestions for names from the room?

That's all from me for now... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:23:21 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

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Stephen Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:14:26 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

Some FRIGHTENING news.

I've just discovered that Betty Cohen, once head of Cartoon Network, has resigned. Her replacement? Brad Siegel.

Now, that name probably means very little to you, but to me, it speaks volumes. Bear with me.

Brad Siegel, and his boss, Jamie Kellner, are big wigs in AOL Time Warner. They're also inept buffoons. Siegel is best known to me because, as I've admitted before, I'm a wrestling fan. Siegel was placed in charge of running the World Championship Wrestling organization, WCW for short. About a year later, after his gross mismanagement, the company was dead and sold to Vince McMahon.

But the important point to remember is that Siegel has a major hard on AGAINST adult programming. He frequently kiboshed WCW content because it was too "adult" in his opinion. Meanwhile, you'd see and hear worse things on network TV late night, but I digress. This is bad news for Cartoon Network's fledgling adult oriented programs like their Adult Swim block as well as some of their anime programs they air on late night.

Furthermore, Siegel and his boss, Kellner, want to incorporate more of the AOLTW's holdings into Cartoon Network. What does that mean, you ask? Basically, less shows like DBZ or Samurai Jack, more shows like POKEMON.

Believe me when I say that these two men can utterly destroy Cartoon Network. They've done it to other network programming in the past. Kellner himself has all but destroyed Warner Bros. animation department, and has severely cut Cartoon Network Animation's staff.

I have a sense of doom here. I think we're about to enter some dark days in animation. I do NOT want to see these bastards ruin one of the only good channels on cable.
Sevarius Jr.
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:43:10 PM
IP: 207.172.11.148

*Pops in for few minutes*
Hey all

Been one of those days. I woke up this morning and discovered something. I don't care. Everything that meant a damn to me is now almost meaningly. Except of course for my beliefs is God and my GF. And maybe writing. But fencing, school, work, it jsut....didn't seem to matter. I'd be worried excep that i can't make myself seem to care.

Any way.

I looked at the counter today, and it said 45 people have read my fic....but I could use feedback, if anyone has the time. I'd like to know what people think the strongest/weakest parts of it were, so that i can correct the bad and work more on the good for the next one. *Reminds self he has to find a book on how to write the trickster*

Josh>> Well, normally I don't have a problem with pc hardware, but the newest of the components in my current box are 3 years old. I'm using memory that has taken probably 2 power surges too many. I think the only thing i can salvage is my PCI voodoo card. and that is only so i don't pay $400 for a brand spankin new one when i build the new box later next month.

Lyanti>>OO!! Can't wait to read it.

***Buffy Spoilers***
Oh man, this was a gut-buster ep. I don't think there was a stretch of more than 3 minutes that i didn't go without some mad laughter. "Rand Giles? Why didn't you just call me Horney...". And of course, the one line that makes me 100% that Evil Willow is comming back (aside from the previews) "...And I think I'm kinda gay..."
So when is the show going to get retitled Buffy the Vampire Layer?
***End Buffyness****

I think I'm going to go now, see if i can figure out what makes menot want to care.

Bbyes!

Archwolf - [thearchwolf@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 09:21:32 PM
IP: 137.148.203.213

*** BUFFY SPOILERS ***

Yep, definetly the best episode of the season so far. Though the image of Buffy and Spike together makes me want to wretch. Ideal way to end the season is watching Spike rip Buffy's heart out and dance on her corpse. But this ain't the same Spike anymore. It's a whole new character.

I want something very bad to happen to Willow. Hell, I've wanted something bad to happen to her since the show began. If there was one character I could do without, it's her. She couldn't even go 24 hours without doing magic. Gods, it's like an addiction. Willow needs to go watch "Blow". Her using magic and George's cocaine problems are quite similar.

Sorry to see Giles go. I hope he'll continue to make guest appearances, but I doubt it. He was my favorite character by now also.

The episode was hilarious though. It made up for some of the elements I didn't like (Giles leaving). And it was the best this season. But then again, this season has been pretty lackluster so far.

Bring back Giles, bring back the old school Spike and have him use Willow's head for a chalice and I'll be very happy.

7/10

"A vampire with a soul. How lame is that?"
-Buffy

*** END BUFFY SPOILERS ***
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 09:11:10 PM
IP: 216.179.5.110

**SJ pops in for a moment**

Well, that was the best Buffy of the season.

Well....maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.

But it DID have a cameo by Michelle Branch at the end of the show, so IMO, that makes it the best of the season.

You may now resume your regularly scheduled bickering amongst yourselves.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 08:57:33 PM
IP: 207.172.11.148

Imzadi - Wait a minute: you insist on legibility. Didn't looking at the checks I sent teach you anything about my handwriting?

Terkky (misspelling deliberate) - Might I refer you to the Ask Greg Archives? go to the http://www.s8.org/gargoyles and follow the link to the ask greg archives. Most of your questions have been answered there.

BTW, based on Terkky's IP address, where he is probably posting from?

How many people here on under 1,702,994,000 seconds old?

I made a pound cake today from stratch. It's mine, all mine. Touch it and observe consequences.

Isn't it that every person has his/her price? I'm sure Shinigami could be bribed, given the right incentives.

This is driving me nuts: how do I prevent anyone on ICQ from sending me an IM unless he/she is on my friend list? I'm sick of some of the IM spam I'm getting.

Lynati - maintaining a web system is HARD work and keeping fresh content there takes times. Let someone else host the pictures.

Spacebabie <Whoa Everyone is coming out of the woodwork.> Hmm. Not everyone. Where's Conspiracy Theorist?

999

What a miserable, miserable time of the year. It's the most miserable time of the year.

My dad was home all day.

BTW, did the mail service run this Monday?

How many federal holidays are there?
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 08:33:48 PM
IP: 204.94.193.68

Well, I just got fired today. I for one don't care, I should be getting another job soon. An old High School buddy is a manager at a local Barnes & Noble. Every single person agrees that what happened is not my fault. But oh well. On the plus side, I can enjoy a full three day weekend without having to go to work. Something I fully intend to do. I also got a copy of "The Silmarillion" as a lovely parting gift.

MOONCAT> Congrads on the new car. Also looking forward to the next fanfic :)

JEN AND PATRICK> Thanks for all that info on dealing with hotels. I'll keep all of that in mind when I have to deal with hotels for Gathering 2003.
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 07:59:16 PM
IP: 216.179.5.110

Jen and I know the ins and outs of dealing with Hotel Sales and Catering on an intimate basis. We were pointing their attention back to the exact wording of our agreement up all they way up until the final payment was made a month after the convention. We knew going into it that the hotel expenses (meeting rooms and catering) were going to be by far the major part of our budget, and we treated it accordingly. When you are spending literally thousands of dollars on a tight budget, you've got to watch out for all the contingencies that can bite you in the butt and rack up the extra charges. Now as for G2002... the Holiday Inn is a pretty reputable chain, so I would hope they wouldn't be trying any sneaky games with the room rates. But I'll await the results of the inquiry being made into that before offering further commentary and opinion.

Mooncat > Congrats on the new car.

Shinigami > Do you have an e-mail addy you can recieve mail at? I have a fic bit to share with you related to one of those pics. :)

News update > Reports coming out of Kabul today are that Afghani civilians are shaving their beards, playing music, and riding around in the street ringing bicycle bells... all things forbidden under the rule of Taliban, who are no in hot retreat for Kandahar to the south. Yes, true to Monty Python, when danger comes to play, they very bravely run away. ;)
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 07:18:31 PM
IP: 66.72.203.174

Crzy: She's okay. She was really shaken up by it this morning shortly after it happened, and I checked out the damage just about a half hour or so ago. Thankfully it isn't as bad as it sounded ... nothing a sledgehammer and some bondo can't fix. (Then again, there *is* that mirror ... :/)
Coyote the Bando
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 07:02:18 PM
IP: 64.243.208.114

Kyryn - Patrick knows all to well about signing room blocks with hotels. ::winks at Patrick:: The trick is to go over the contract with a fine toothed comb and to make sure you know the hotel's normal rates for all the days at that time of year. We left NOTHING to chance for G2001. Anything we saw as a possible loophole we had them change in the contract. NEVER just assume the hotel is going to stick to it's verbal word. (Ah yes, the memories of being on staff with G99 return to me!) With the high turn over of Sales and Catering staff, the next person you talk to may have NO CLUE what verbal deal you had with the person before them... and you really would be suprised how easily they will agree to little favors if you just ask them for it and have it put in the contract. After all, YOU are the customer... and the customer is always right. >:) In fact, if G2002 doesn't get the lower rate for Sunday, I would call them on it and gripe out my sales rep for not bringing it to my attention sooner. But maybe that's just me... I wouldn't put up with an obvious slight of hand like that.

Mara - <<you evil lil thing.>> You know it baby!

Coyote - Got your email! GAH, I hope your mom is okay!
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 06:03:41 PM
IP: 63.28.181.246

Crzy: Sent off a message with my new address.

Interesting talk of dead cars. Unfortunately I get to spend my day off tomorrow performing reconstructive surgery on my mother's '99 Escort (she got knocked around in an accident today). :(
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 05:28:35 PM
IP: 64.243.208.123

***Kyryn appears out of the shadows***

Patrick> Just as a note, if a convention sets up a deal for prices with most hotels, the hotels will stick to that deal for "convention rates" but may undercut the convention on the weekend in question unless the convention has a clause in their contract that states that their rates will be lowered to the hotel's lowest current rate. With some unscrupulous hotels, they can then ask a convention to pony up more money when the convention doesn't have its room block filled by the release dates.

Stephen> It's good to see you back.

Mooncat> Sorry to hear about the old Saturn, but congrats on the new one. BTW, if you do regular maintenance (and I do mean regular -- no leaving the oil in for 12,000 miles before a change!) Saturns last pretty well. My 1995 Saturn SL1 currently has 274,000 miles on it. :)

Dragonhulk> TD episodes are being worked on. There are currently a few technical delays that need to be ironed out. The other series are also being worked on, but TD is the new up for release.

'Later, All!

****Kyryn vanishes into the shadows. Thumps, banging, and a few loud curses are heard, followed by a door slamming.****
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 05:24:52 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

Shinigami - Not bribable?? Damn, so I bought all those flavored lubes for nothing??? >:)

!... well i am only human, you evil lil thing.
Shinigami
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 04:56:37 PM
IP: 172.136.95.67

*Poings in*

pre-reg'd for my spring semester classes. woo.

SOROW: congrats on the grades. Good luck.

Archwolf: I got your IM; sorry, I was away and forgot to set my status. and sure, I'll pass it on to you. You'll be one of the few to read it anytime soon;I can't put it into the archives until is chronologically appropriate.

Crzy: Yeah, I'm confused, too. Everyone keeps telling me I need to get a site, after I've told them I don;t know how to manage one. They say I'll "learn". :P Well, maybe I can bribe Mara into showing me the basics when I see her at New Years. as for my pics, I'm just quality-paranoid. the scanning level, I'm cutting it back, but I do usually set my jpeg level to an "8" when I save them, regardless of the dpi.
*to her next class*
Lynati
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 04:28:16 PM
IP: 205.184.255.122

Hey all. Great news concerning my grades, I made an A on both my journalism test and paper! So hopefully I'll at least get a B at the end of the semester. And I got an A on my theatre test, but that class is so much fun that it's easy to study for. Other than that, I have to write 2 more papers before Thanksgiving but I don't see any trouble with that.
SOROW
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 01:55:17 PM
IP: 129.116.38.151

Enters the CR and smells smoke
::Uh oh not again:: She grabs a hose and soaks the hole place.
::That’s better, don’t want another flame war to pop up.::
Well this is our last week for rehearsals, and I enjoyed this banana bread type cake with
Chocolate icing.

BRIEF ANGEL SPOILERS
The baby is a boy! And its human.
END SPOILERS

Dragonhulk>>>They will come out when they come out, thanks for your patience.

Mooncat<<<Agh!!! It's official =( Just heard from my insurance adjuster that my car is totaled>>>That totally sucks.<<<Yay! I just bought a new car *^_^* >>>Allright.

Archwolf>>>> Welcome back.

Jannie<<>> Whoa Everyone is coming out of the woodwork.

“Never give a dog cabbage.” ~Me

Spacebabie
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 01:42:54 PM
IP: 63.35.4.85

Err... Email address for Coyote... heh! <:)
Jen again... - [crzy_demona@art-chicks.com]
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 01:01:31 PM
IP: 63.28.181.8

Josh - Con Badges, um... you don't go to conventions very often... do you? You would have cried at Fanime. Here's what the average type badge looks like there (and this is larger then actual size):

http://crzysmansion.art-chicks.com/temp/Fanime/FanimeBadge.jpg

I loved having a Guest badge though. I didn't have to wait in ANY lines for ANY thing. (Thank you G.W. for being my bitch and running to get me one when I asked!)

Bottom line, con's don't give a crap if your nose is on someones boob. In fact, it tends to boost attendance! :P

In regards to Si getting a website up. The girl is working her tush off, but she is depending on Chris now to get her webspace. I have had to depend on Chris before... it's not pretty. The guy has a lot of talk but little action. (I will probably be stuck by lightning right now... but I really don't %@#$@# care when it comes to broken promises and expected special treatment for NOTHING)

Mooncat - I luv Saturns... unfortunately they don't make em to seat 6 so I have to deal with my BEAST truck for now. You collect Cels too?? Dude, this is starting to scare me!

Shinigami - Not bribable?? Damn, so I bought all those flavored lubes for nothing??? >:)

Coyote - I have art here with your name on it! Email me with your new address!!

Christine - ::SEETHING WITH ENVY:: I am so jealous! But I will forgive you, cuz so far C. Moon is making me HAPPY! :)

Lynati - ::confuzzled:: You want space for a page... but you don't know how to put a page together? huh? ... and what's wrong with the size of your pics? How do you scan them in? What settings?

Okay, guess I am off to torture my daughter's kindergarden class. (can you imagine having me as a class mom?? Scary huh?)
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:58:48 PM
IP: 63.28.181.8

*Enters, stretching hugely*

Dragonhulk: Ignore Josh. New stories ARE coming. In fact, an insomniac college art sophomore is working on the art for some of it, even as we speak. We’ll be done when we are done; we can’t get any more definite than that. Would you rather we put our stories out NOW, before they are finished? I think most people would rather wait and get a higher-quality garg ep.

IcebladeX: excellent question. Are we organized enough here for someone(s) to get together and decide on this issue?

JackaL: Welcome back. I thank you for your post; I think you just tipped me off to the reason behind some of my own recent personality changes.

Jan: Thank you. If you want to see the pictures of my work, let me know, and I’ll email them to you. Unfortunately, Imzadi is often accurate in his complaints that I make my files too big, but I’m always paranoid that the quality will make my work look bad. I hope your anxiety issues- or whatever is causing the need to see a cardiologist- improves.

Fleur: I checked out your site; it confused me (as many computer sites do) but looked pretty cool. I’d like to volunteer to be a proof-reader. But if you accept me, you are going to have to warn the writer(s) that I may be a tad slow, what with my current workload and all.

Siofra: Thank you. Muchly so. And I hope your wrist heals quick. (And that those “morons” finally fixed your computer correctly.)

Patrick Toman: <“Gargaholic”> A-ha! I new I wasn’t the only one who used that phrase.

Coyote and Ravyn: I am glad you are staying, even if it is only in a holding pattern. I meant to comment earlier, but I kept forgetting to add it to my posts. :(

Niamhgold: You’re welcome. :) I hope it helps. and...food?? YAY! I get food! :D :D <-- (really likes food, esp. when she doesn’t have to buy or make it herself. Heh.) As for the gathering, what about a train? Much cheaper than arifare, and you don’t have to worry about fallign asleep and driving off the road. And apparently the Amtrack station is about a 3 mintue drive from the hotel.

Imzy: <<Its not like you can't get a free one. Why don't you?>> *turns red* I don’t know how to make or upkeep one.<< Is it because you can't get your pictures to a respectable size?>> ... (that is going to be a problem, isn’t it? *sigh*) <> The MiST outfit? Pest has reserved a hard copy of that one. He’d have it already if I could get to a kinko’s.

V: *waves...frantically*

Mara: alright. I’ll ask.

Jen: ...uh, is there an acceptable bribe to try to get a space on art-chicks if one cannot draw hunky men very well?

~Return to the three ring circus...~
Tim : Okay. Now THAT is what I’m going to call “uncalled for” as well as “hypocritical”.
If you’d bothered to check, you’d have noticed that Siofra’s last post was to grab “ninth” last week, and hasn’t posted since. And then you might have inferred from her catch-up post that her computer has been broken and she’s not even been in the CR since that little debate started. Obviously, she feels strongly about it enough to remark on it after it has mostly died down.
She writes you two lines, stating her own opinion on your mind set (saying nothing about you not having or expressing an opinion of your own, or even insulting you for the sole purpose of being insulting) and you read so much into it that you’d expect those two lines to have a whole paragraph’s worth of space between them.
Then you go on to suggest- and I’m sure we all got the sarcasm- that she was being immature and trying to start something with you. Take a look at your own response to her.
A big monster post to her, obviously intended to insult and try to get a rise from her. Two lines to you, not even separated out from her replies to anyone else, without even an exclamation point to show that she is “yelling” or otherwise expressing extreme emotion, and you accuse her of going on a crusade. You further insinuate that she is doing this because she has some deep, dark secret that is motivating her to raise a banner against you. Who was supposed to be the instigator here again?

Oh, and before you decide to read your own life-story into this post of mine, let me state my own personal reasons for getting involved. Middle school era, I got picked on, insulted, etc, for being gay...WHEN I WASN’T. It was just another thing my peers used as an excuse to be mean to me, something they considered an insult, a thing to look down upon. They didn’t care that it wasn’t true, they just were looking for another stigma to pin on me. I guess they got tired of my lack of response to their taunting my weight, my clothes, my face, my musical taste, and my intelligence. And it didn’t work any better. At least not outwardly; but it did bother me internally, because one of my pet peeves is people thinking things about me that aren’t true. There previous assaults on my other attributes may have been rude, but who am I to say that they weren’t true? I was overweight. I am unattractive. And maybe Soul Asylum does suck, and not wearing jeans is a crime against society.
But being picked on for a “crime” that I didn’t commit -or celebrated for a glory that I did not win- is another story. I strive to correct what people think of me even at cost to my reputation; I’m actually quicker to say that they think too much of me. Maybe Siofra doesn’t have this problem. Maybe she doesn’t care what you think of her. But she’s my friend, and I see you using such tactics against her, and it DOES sit poorly with me, YES because of my own experience.

I’m sick of sitting in my corner and staying silent through all the crap that offends me because I feel it “isn’t my place” to speak on them. I have opinions. And I am going to express them when I feel the need to.

If your intent had not been anything else but to try to publicly humiliate Siofra (for the oh-so-horrible debasement of suggesting that you are a close-minded individual, no less) you could have just emailed her your response.
Or is your self-esteem so low that you feel nothing you do or say has any worth without a whole CR full of people as witnesses to validate you for it?
And no, chewing out people that piss me off is not my own “new crusade”. Just my new hobby.
~circus over~

...Siofra, I know you could have- and still might- b!7ch him out yourself over this, but I was hoping to spare you some stress on your arms and your psyche. It slows down the healing process.

*Back to reading, and playing with liquid latex and clay*

Lynati “No, that is not an ironic statement, my own self-esteem *is* really that low” Kshudra. - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 08:30:28 AM
IP: 205.185.0.173

!@#$

Didn't get to go to Apple today, because when we woke up it was pouring here and in Cupertino, and we didn't want to drive two hours in a downpour without a side mirror to have lunch in a mud pit.

There will be another time, though.

did work for the rest of the day. Took me all night to do two assignments...and I didn't really finish either one.

replies

Spot: How come you always post right after me? <<we got onto the wonders that are proofreaders>>: I just wish all writers would use them. <<So, um, I kinda made one>>: Cool! Do they get paid? <<should really be at about Josh regularity levels of posting>>: that's tough to do. I'm dedicated, and more importantly, I have no life. <>: I'm sure that thrills your boyfriends beyond compare. <<your description of Eyrie supporting structure would fit right in>>: Except that he's arguing that it WOULDN'T work. <>: A mother and son EECS team? I doubt it. <<How do you know what I look like? Have you been playing around with those satilite photos again?>>: Sh*t! She's on to me. <<Isn't that SJ?>>: Maybe *I'M* SJ's evil twin. <<before meeting you and Gside, I thought engineering was a boring subject>>: Bah! Never! <<They've been sucked in by your charm>>: What charm? <<with this expression on her face that reminds me of something small afraid of getting kicked>>: Everyone who asks me a question about computers has that look. <<fashionable=not good>>: Any engineer can tell you that. <<The current looks involve little strapless or one-shoulder numbers>>: Demona... <<Which is a BAD thing, no matter what you might say to the contary>>: Anything that has you violating decency laws can't be good. <<we decided to give 'Good Catholic girl' her first porn movie experience>>: What I wouldn't pay to see that. <<You can bask in the reflected worship>>: I already do. <<Cheapest airfares I'm looking at is a little under 2000 big ones>>: Yes, but you're halfway around the world. If I lived Down Under, I wouldn't even CONSIDER going. <<But is it biologically possible for you to service that many women?>>: define "service". <<what is acceptable bribery>>: Money, usually. <<What's with all the anonymous posts all of a sudden>>: Some people need hobbies. <<Use numbers, it's much safer>>: I can't count that high. <<rip phone books in half>>: I can do that...one page at a time. <<with the possible exception of Lexington>>: I wouldn't put it past him to tip one end-over-end without any trouble though. <<Are you just saying that to freak Josh out?>>: To Quote MacBeth: "You'll have to do better than that!"

The Wizard: <>: I just hate having to wake up early. <<it's probably a 14 hour drive>>: You could always hit a motel along the way for a night. <<I'm not proficient in the 3D arts>>: I wouldn't have guessed. <>: You're trying to tease me, aren't you? <<Only if I do a nude self portrait...which I haven't, yet>>: ... <<You shouldn't have to ask>>: This is true. <<And everyone swears using it>>: Well then it must be true. <<Now if only they served as aphrodisiac fumes>>: The problem with using aphrodisiacs is that you come off as desperate. <<create random chaos>>: I was gonna create ordered chaos...but then I realized it didn't exist. <<Doesn't mean it's not true>>: No, it just means no one knows.

Archwolf: <>: I hear you. <<My computer is dead>>: If you were Traveler, I'd make fun of you. As it is, my "macintrash" hasn't had any such problems. <<Elisa’s murder at Brooklyn’s hands>>: I bet that was an interesting scene to write. <<if anyone _would_ read it>>: I'll get around to it.

Terrky: <>: Dude, he's a superhero! Is it exaggerated that superman can throw a car? <<am i getting annoying yet?>>: Have you ever heard of "ask greg"? Its a site where you can post all these questions and not annoy the rest of us.

Patrick: <<badges>>: Alright, you just blew that way out of proportion. Probably because you were on the con staff last year and you're all defensive over your choice. I don't think they need to be readable from across the room. But neither should I have to put my nose to someone's breast to find out their name (I have perfect vision, too). <<primary purpose is to identify those who are SUPPOSED to be there from those who are NOT>>: Great. A little picture or logo in the corner would accomplish that, since the mere prescence of the logo identifies who's supposed to be there. <<it's a cartoon and it looks damn cool>>: Damn skippy!

Dragonhulk: Never.

Gside: <<my mother keeps yelling about the deer on the side of the road, or the car two miles in front of us>>: Farsighted? <<It's more attention they're getting from outside than now>>: yeah, but that's not necessarily a good thing. <<give me one to take the Fourier transform of a random function, approximaed as a large vector of y values>>: I bet my roommate has such a function on his computer, he was taking a similar signal processing class last year. <<you've gotten it beofre, so I'd assume you can get it again>>: That's a big assumption. <>: Lucky. <<How about a first born son?>>: Worried you won't get the chance to make your own? <<there's always the pride from bein oldschool>>: Not if you're a geek. <Mayhap your relationship with the Lady may be tilting towards the platonic side, should you be as deprived as us>>: I pity the fool. <<a long time is a Wilekian post lag>>: Speaking of which... <<Centripital force, here>>: that wouldn't keep it spinning, just revolving. <<Can I help>>: No. And too late, anyway. <<she wants to dine with me every now and then>>: If she pays, great! <<engineers don't have to be boring>>: Most aren't. Its just the fields that are. <<Yes, yes I have>>: Again I ask: what charm? <<For some odd reason, I feel like asking you to hurry up with it>>: And you're worried that *i"m* hitting on her? <<Who needs fumes? I am my own aphrodesiac>>: I know otherwise it would take a lot of effort to sleep with yourself. <<They will, just maybe not before you want them to>>: By murphy's law it will be just after he buys.

Mooncat: <<my car is totaled>>: WOMEN DRIVERS NO SURVIVORS! <>: Those cars are made out of football helments. Literally. <<so I'm only *winces in agony* out three thousand from this little misadventure>>: Chump change, right ;-)

Shinigami: <<I'm.. umh...not bribable. yeah, that's the ticket>>: everyone has their price.

Siryn: <<Gathering Bulletin Board>>: Any hope for a website yet? <<I'll see what I can do>>: No worries. Like I said, that was my ONLY complaint about the last Gathering, and if it doesn't happen, you'll still have my attendance fee ;-)

DPH: <<Try putting 'Daniel Paul Hightower' on one of those small name tages>>: Well you could just put Daniel Hightower. <<I'll stick with DPH>>: Fine, since that's how we all know you. But it should be readable if you're standing in a circle with five other people. <<even qualified teachers admit my programming style in unique>>: That's not a good thing. <<we haven't a week in a while without someone asking about when stories will appear.>>: A week? How about 2 days. <<Will you be nicer to your kids when they drive you places?>>: I'm not having kids. And I like driving. <<If I ever have children, I will not complain about anything that makes me look hypocritical>>: Then you'll be the first parent in history to do so. <<Would you rather have it go octagonal?>>: They said "around", not "round".

Stephen: <>: Isn't it great?!

Lynati: <>: Its not like you can't get a free one. Why don't you? Is it because you can't get your pictures to a respectable size? <<no, you are NOT getting naked pictures of my ass>>: I could just send him that picture you sent me.

Jan: <>: You?! I'm shocked. <<maybe I should have asked how he rated his marriage>>: LOL definitely! <<We'll have to coordinate our flights so that we can rent a car>>: Coordinate = fly when its cheapest ;-) Sorry, but if we don't get there at the same time, I'll just get a cab.

Siofra: <<Being the klutz that I am I managed to almost get myself killed this weekend>>: Just once? <<before anyone asks, the computer wasn't harmed>>: Who cares? Its probably a windoze box anyway. ;-) <<What is it with all the couple's posts? Geez>>: Kind of makes you want to puke, doesn't it? <<They said self portraits would be acceptable>>: How much for a print? <>: What's really scary is that he thinks college IS "the outside". <<not taking crap from immature little punks>>: Hey! I'm an immature little punk! ;-) <<so you can add me to your list>>: Only if you're special...alright so I already added it. <<It'd be cool to chat with ya>>: Oh, how little you know.

Christine: <<give me until next year>>: Eh, I've got time.

Tim: <<Please do tell. I am very intrigued>>: Are you just trying to piss her off? <<We may have more in common than you thought>>: Guess so.

Jackal: <<Alot of ppl will never remember how that day ended>>: Sure I do. It ended with me going to sleep. <<Thousands of ppl dead for a BULLSHIT cause>>: Not everyone thinks its a bullshit cause. <<I'm sorry I brought you here>>: I hope to never say that to my kid. I will accomplish that by not having any.

Good nite folks.

Alpha Velveeta Knuckle Underwear - Dead Meat, Hot Shots!
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 04:02:53 AM
IP: 64.161.24.34

JESUS!!!

I leave you ppl alone for a few months and look what happens!
Terrorists attacks, anthrax, another plane crash..., what is this, the end of the world?! Well if it is, we might as well enjoy the time we have.

9/11/01- Alot of ppl will never remember how that day ended, but you should be damned and labeled sub-human if you don't remember how it started. (US residents). My plans for visiting NYC and specifically going to the WTC to freak out all the yuppies have gone out the windo.. bad choice of words, .... are no more. There's nothing I can say, or anyone for that matter, that can express how is felt... for.. my god. Thousands of ppl dead for a BULLSHIT cause!

Do I laugh, cry, both..., numb myself or feel it all? To label it as crazy is a understatement.
On 9/13, after *some* of it sunk in, we awoke to a much different America, and I awoke a much different person. That morning I watched my, newest, then 9 month old, son sleeping.... I cryed for him. My repeating thought was, "I'm sorry I brought you here." It was a pathetic site, hehee

I'm sorry to have brought all that up. It's just here on 11/12 after another plane crash....., maybe it's the pain killers, I dunno.

I wanna say something meaningful about all this, but I just can't.

I wish I had the chance to be a more frequent visitor, I like was years ago, but I'm just waaayy too busy these dayz. I miss and I love chatting with you guyz. Be good, be strong, and don't dare fear *anything*.

As the misguided David Koresh burned, so shall Osama.....
JackaL - [Jackal1127@hotmail.com]
Ga, USA
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 02:32:28 AM
IP: 152.163.213.51

Siofra: <<I'm sorry that you live in such a small little world that you feel that way about gay people. I hope that someday you get a little glimpse of the outside.>> Hmm, didn't we end this days ago? What made you want to ressuerrect this sorrid issue? After all, I simply stated that stereotypes exist because there are those who lived up to them using a darkly humorous ancedot from my own experiences regarding a relatively small part of the genearl population and how they appear in mass media. If you paid attention to my post, I AKNOWLEDGED that not every gay person is like that. And I would appreciate it if you DO NOT treat me as an ignorant fool. And please DO NOT insult me because my own experiences conflicts with your social idealogy. Despite what you may believe, the mid-west is hardly socially or ethnicly homogeneous. After all, you live in Ann Arbor, MI, and you seem to be, shall we say, socially affluent. If we can't be honest about our experiences and views, then there's little reason for *anyone* to come to this CR.

Tell me, why did you bring this up again? Where you busy with something else and wanted to get involved? Did you believe that the comment room was getting stale? Did'ja wanna stir something up? No. Of course not. It couldn't be. I imagine that you're too mature to do something like that.

Pehaps it was somthing more overtly pragmatic. Maybe you heard someone make a quasi-offensive observation. Something that conflicted with your sensibilities of good and bad. Maybe you saw your chance for a little personal crusade. A chance to stand up and say, “That’s bad, that’s good! He’s wrong, I’m right!” After all, that’s what your lifetime experiences have led you to believe. No, that’s not it?

Maybe... Maybe you have some fascination or personal stake in the issue, hmm? Was something done to you? Did they tease you? Taunt you? Assault you? Ostracize you?

Tell me, what did you do when this happened? How did you feel? Shock? Rage? Sadness? Or was it something baser than that? That sensation that causes the whole world to turn a shade of red and you start to view those around you as prey. That animal that you keep locked in that dark pit of your soul and yearns to break free of your “civilized” mind and howl at the moon.
Please do tell. I am very intrigued.

[Leans into Siofra’s ear, whispers]
We may have more in common than you thought.

At this point, you are probably trying to decide how to respond to this post. I can’t say that I know for sure, but it ought to be interesting.

In the meantime, I shall take a brief leave of the comment room. Don’t worry I shan’t be long. Only until a few people in the CR mellow out and decide wither their personal value is based on what they are or who they are, and learn that instead of throwing a fit when criticized they should do something about it. But it may be a while, if you’re the kind of person who picks his/her scabs.

Good day, Ladies and Gentlemen.

[Tim calmly walks out of CR]

AAAARRRWWWWOOOOOOOOOooo!
Tim
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 01:52:12 AM
IP: 198.133.245.3

oooh, hey everyone, i just though of another stupid question to ask!

ok, nout the turning to stone thingy, i'm not looking for a direct answer, but can that be scientificly explained, or do we just assume that it is some sort of spell?

O.o am i getting annoying yet?

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
kansas
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:54:54 AM
IP: 64.197.199.97

Stephen > welcome back! Sorry to hear about the virus. When we didn't get the reviews, I was thinking it must have been something like that. Congrats on the car.

Josh > your prediction, my dear, won't come true .. there's only one issue of AvMists left this year! ; ) Give me until next year.

Harry Potter movie > saw it yesterday, and it was SO good ... really had a wonderful look to it, great characters and acting, tons of little details that added texture without being overdone, some parts of the book were skimped over but in general it seemed as faithful as everyone's been saying. I can't wait to see it again this weekend! Becca gives it high marks too. LOL, and I went to work last night and wrote 9,200 words of an HP fic of my own (well, for Becca; it's called Harry Potter and the Exchange Student <g>). Looks like my intention to have C. Moon done by Thanksgiving might suffer a setback ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:17:14 AM
IP: 64.24.214.52

Damn, sorry about that crappy spacing...that's what I get for not checking formatting with a paste from Word...
Siofra - [again]
Monday, November 12, 2001 11:08:52 PM
IP: 141.213.216.244

Well, I hope everyone’s having a good term this time around. I'm doing great but I've been so damn busy lately that I haven't had time to catch up on much. Finally decided to sit down and at least make an appearance.
This weekend was...eventful
The good - Riverdance!! First time I've seen it live and it was awesome! Since I started dancing last year, I have so much respect for those people and what they do. It's amazingly difficult and very impressive. If you ever get a chance to see it, take it. You won't be disappointed.
The bad - Being the klutz that I am I managed to almost get myself killed this weekend. I had to take my computer home for repairs (again, these people I'm dealing with are morons) So I took it home and was carrying it up the steps of the breezeway to the kitchen and tripped on the steps. The stupid tower landed on both of my wrists, and I had to go get them x-rayed. Nothing broken, but I bruised the bones in my left hand and a bone in my write arm, and slightly sprained my right wrist. They're feeling better, but still hurt a lot. And before anyone asks, the computer wasn't harmed.
Anyway, I get an extension on my metals project for me being clumsy, since I can't really forge anything right now.
The rest of the weekend was cool, spent a lot of time with my bf and his family as mine were up north for the weekend.
I guess that's about it lately. I might possibly get one of my metals pieces in a metalworking show this spring...my professor seems optimistic. I'll have to get pics to show anyone that is interested...
Anyway, a few replies, slightly old...
Greg and SJ - Both God skits/jokes were very humorous, thanks for the laugh :-)
What is it with all the couple's posts? Geez...
Niamhgold - nude self portrait...Yeah, some of my guy friends keep trying to get me to draw naked chicks to hang up in their dorm room. They said self portraits would be acceptable ;-)
Tim - I'm sorry that you live in such a small little world that you feel that way about gay people. I hope that someday you get a little glimpse of the outside.
Lynati - *applause* proud of you hon, not taking crap from immature little punks ;-)
Josh - I'll e-mail you the sn on AIM that I use all the time so you can add me to your list. It'd be cool to chat with ya.
Okay, enough for tonight, this post has been painful and slow enough to type as it is. Talk to you all later!

Siofra - [7@hotmail.com]
Ann Arbor, MI
Monday, November 12, 2001 11:07:30 PM
IP: 141.213.216.244

Just a quick note... I saw my new cardiologist today (the sucky thing about moving is finding new doctors that you feel comfortable with and they are good) Anyway, I asked about the chest pains and such so he had me do a stress test with an ultrasound. argh. It was interesting watching my heart on the screen! hehe The blood flow, sounds, muscles, etc. all looked great and he said that he felt as if everything was fine. :) I mentioned to him that I was a bit high strung/anxiety and he chuckled and said that he had already figured that one out *blushes*
He gave me 2 recommendations for a stomach doctor - he sent his wife to them too, so I will assume he thinks highly of them.... or maybe I should have asked how he rated his marriage ;)

Lynati> your art really sounds awesome and I'm very envious that you have the opportunity to do pottery, sculpturing, etc. :)

Siryn> thanks! I really have my doubts that there will be any type of shuttle service, but it doesn't hurt to ask, huh? :)

Josh> We'll have to coordinate our flights so that we can rent a car. If there's enough people, we might want to consider renting a mini-van. We can discuss it in more detail the closer it gets, though :) This is just a thought.

gotta' get some sleep... it's been a long day and 5:30am comes way too early each morning. O_o

*lowers head in respectful silence for the crash and ground victims of today's plane crash in Queens*
Jan
Monday, November 12, 2001 11:03:35 PM
IP: 12.110.236.228

Yay! I just bought a new car *^_^* -- well, a new used car.
The car I wrecked was a 1998 Saturn Wagon, under 30,000 miles, and she was sweeeeeet! I am having boo hoo kitty fits every time I think about it, because the equivalent car new today would be in the mid 20 thousand range.

But I bought a used 1999 Saturn SL2 today, 22,000 miles, for under 13 thousand dollars. The insurance check was 10 thousand, so I'm only *winces in agony* out three thousand from this little misadventure.

I'd rather have spent this getting to the Gathering and buying cels... sigh.

But it's good to have a car of my own, and not a rental, again. Just have to wait till tomorrow so they can retro fit a CD player into her.

>^,,^<
Mooncat
Mooncat
Monday, November 12, 2001 10:57:21 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

*In*

I got the crappy pics I took of my art projects back; surprisingly, all were not crappy. So, now I can put them out at my site and-
wait.
I don't have a site.
...
okay, fine. I'll just turn them into jpegs and email them to those that were wondering what I've been up to.
uhh...who was that again?

Archwolf: yay! you got it back! (and your welcome. ;) )
oo...that means...mine is nexted!!

Emambu: So, ya finished with "Keys" yet? ;P And were you actually able to study for that test? I didn;t wind up going to sleep; I just worked on my art. got it done, too. Now if I could only finich the big stuff...

Aaron: I see my "snrrrk" has been picked up. and you're welcome.
...and Pest...no, you are NOT getting naked pictures of my ass.

and on that note, I leave you.
*falls into bed*
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Monday, November 12, 2001 10:28:36 PM
IP: 63.48.0.107

Fleur, thanks for that explanation! ya know what? IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE! i never thought about it that way. hmm... it makes perfect sense!

anyway, hi everyone. must be off now
Terrky K. - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Monday, November 12, 2001 10:11:03 PM
IP: 63.252.222.92

Greetings all...

Just to pass along a quick announcement. I have a car now. ^_^ Just need the tag and insurance, and I'm on the road, again. ^_^

Laters!

Stephen Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Monday, November 12, 2001 09:12:12 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

*pops back in*

(Just reread my post, and I think I've goofed. Coyote, my 'good' was to you deciding to post, not the bit about not doing it often. Get back here more often, 'kay? Thought I'd better clear that up :))

Terrky> >about the throwing cars thing.... i always found that a little fakey. i mean, doesn't it seem a little over exagerated?< Adrenaline is a wonderful thing. Seriously, there have been cases where _humans_ have picked up cars under its influence. The most famous are the old 'Mother getting her trapped child out from under the wheels' scenarios. Even without adrenaline, the muscles are pretty amazing. There's somewhat insane people who pull trams down the street, get pavers smashed on their stomachs by sledgehammers, and rip phone books in half. The determining factors for muscle strength are the length of the muscles and how quickly the muscle shortens (ie muscles move when the fibres move over each other, causing it to shorten). Goliath, or any of the gargoyles (with the possible exception of Lexington), could conceivably quite easily throw a small car.
>and i got one more question... about the eyes glowing thing? is there a way to explain that?< Okay, blatant plug time. Click the link and you'll get my take on it.

Patrick> >In-show answer: phosphoresence triggered by a heightened emotional state.< Yea, my theory wasn't too far off the mark after all! >Out of show answer: it's a cartoon and it looks damn cool.< Which is, of course, the most important thing. :)

Dragonhulk> Before the masses come down on you like the wrath of the dieties, the answer to your question is: We just don't know. There's a series in production at the moment, but RL means that the 'release date' has been set back a bit. You're going to have to be patient, but I can assure you, when we know, you'll know. The countdown will start within two posts of the announcement, I'll wager. :)

Gside> >Essentially, with some specialization in neuroscience.< *l* And psychology, perhaps. >No, she's going into the environmental stuff on Cook. But she wants to dine with me every now and then. And if she were in my field, she might have become my TA. The sad thing is I'm already usted to something like that.< Oooh, sounds like an interesting story - spill it! >I think I've only proven that engineers don't have to be boring. Most of the subject matter has been, except for maybe using graph theory to solve the Takahashi love polygon. There really are algorithms to such things.< And here was me thinking I'd never use maths again once I left high school.... ;)
>Yes, yes I have.< Are you just saying that to freak Josh out? :) >Quick thought: Having a higher silicate concentration, their muscle fibers are stronger. Yeah, it doesn't sound very scientific, but I do have a picture of those little feet walking across each other in my head.< The little feet rule (I'm guessing you had the same type of picture used to explain muscles as I did)! The silicate concentration probably wouldn't have all that much of an effect upon the muscle fibre, (off the top of my head, calcium, ATP/ATPase and troponin are more important, and another one that's vacated my brain), but its possible that the silicate concentration making the _bones_ stronger would mean the muscles have a better support structure, so the car-throwing wouldn't equal broken limbs. :)

Mooncat> >Agh!!! It's official =( Just heard from my insurance adjuster that my car is totaled.< Agggh! What a pain that's going to be. My sympathies.

Shinigami> >I'm.. umh...not bribable. yeah, that's the ticket.< Aw man! Come on, we need at least ONE bribable admin! ;) >So much morality have I.... New fic? Yea! *trots off to read...

And still one the same nagging vein as my last post... anybody interested in the proofreaders site?
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Monday, November 12, 2001 07:48:29 PM
IP: 203.25.148.64

Hey again. See, two posts in one day. I'm back. Really.

Gside>><<They will, just maybe not before you want them to.
>> Yeah, probably. I really can't see jprices on current processors coming down untill after AMD gets it 0.13micron processors out onto the market. There jsut isn't anything else out there that will drop the prices. The realase of the P4 2ghz didn't do anything. The AMD 1900+Xp and the expected follow ups won't have any affect either most likely. Oh well.

Lets see what else is gong on...

Firestorm><<What will all that happened in the musical episode do to Willows physche? >> With any luck, bring back Evil Willow. I liked her. she was evil.

Well, i guess that's all for now....
*starts to leave, then turns and smacks self in the forhead* Stupid me...forgot the main reason i came here.

****Warning - Shameless Plug ***
Detective Mathew Bluestone stood in the castle’s courtyard and waited for the remnants of the Clan to awaken from their stone sleep. The clan had always been small, but now, with two members gone, the clan seemed…almost non-existent. It was more like a few gargoyles who happened to be roosting in the same place most of the time.

Matt looked up to the leader’s perch, seeing Angela’s fierce pose. It was supposed to be fierce, anyway. To Matt, it looked frightened and unsure. She had good cause, he supposed. Her father had removed himself from command only two months ago, shortly after Elisa’s murder at Brooklyn’s hands. Matt’s gaze moved to the former leader, standing to face the setting sun, wings caped, face distraught. If a statue could be both whole and shattered at once, it would look like Goliath. “How the mighty have fallen…”

***End Plug, thanks for your attention****

I would like to toot my own horn and announce the posting of my first fic. Many Thanks are due to Emambu and Lynati for their proofing, commentary, and telling me when i took people way the heck out of character.

*Figures there is no point is stepping aside to avoid the rush, since there likely won't be one* BUt if anyone _would_ read it, i would appreciate the feedback. Thankee

Shade and Sweet Water
Archwolf - [<<--Stone Phoenix Begins now.]
Monday, November 12, 2001 07:32:42 PM
IP: 137.148.203.213

Well, I have good news: starting next week, I will have the chiropractor only once a week. Apparantly, my back is getting better.

Imzadi - hmm. Try putting 'Daniel Paul Hightower' on one of those small name tages. If/when I attend the gathering, I'll stick with DPH, unless everyone wants to read my long name.

Imzadi - <> Like I am scared. Good luck following the logic in my programs; even qualified teachers admit my programming style in unique.

Damn it, I will finish half a program in VB pretty soon. At least I am learning certain things and refreshing my memory.

Will someone please put a sign on the CR saying that Timedancer will be released when it is released? I swear we haven't a week in a while without someone asking about when stories will appear.

Gside, Imzadi, & anyone else reading - Will you be nicer to your kids when they drive you places?

**THE HYPOCRITE**
Time to list another dose of the hypocrisy I live with.

My dad is complaining about me being on the 'net so much, making his line busy, YET he turns his cellphone off where I can't reach him by phone.

I think I have mentioned this before, but I can't tell my dad the complete truth. Why? He wouldn't/doesn't understand. He thinks it is lazy that I sleep about 10 hours a day, but if I don't, I wake up sleepy. He thinks his back problems are comparable to mine: mine are much worse. Then, he gets onto me about religion: the problem is he is such a hypocrite and so UN-understanding that he turns me OFF. I can't practice my religious beliefs deeply because I would have to tell the truth to a man who lacks understanding and is a big hypocrite.
**end the hypocrite**

If I ever have children, I will not complain about anything that makes me look hypocritical.

Why I do sense there is a connection between Zoids and Pokemon? How much longer will Digimon/Pokemon clones be around?

<What makes the world go around?> Would you rather have it go octagonal?

Mooncat - so what kind of car?
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, November 12, 2001 07:13:03 PM
IP: 204.94.193.69

ps. Patrick, I haven't forgotten you! I'm still waiting back to here on the answer to your question on hotel prices, and Jan's question on shuttle services. <:)

Josh> I'll see what I can do. <:) Not promisng anything..but we'll see! :D
Siryn --2002 Convention Chair - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Monday, November 12, 2001 06:36:35 PM
IP: 24.93.24.2

Tada!!

The handy dandy all purpose...Gathering Bulletin Board!

Hope that helps out people a little bit more!

http://pub97.ezboard.com/bgathering2002
(for people who just want to copy and paste!)

Enjoy!

So you can email the gathering email account, email me, or use this bulletin board, or of course ask randomly here or over at s8 any gathering questions, comments rants etc.

I really want to make this the gathering the best it can be for everyone, so please! Let me know your imput! :D
Siryn --2002 Convention Chair - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Monday, November 12, 2001 06:34:14 PM
IP: 24.93.24.2

Fleur:- Congratulations! So, what is acceptable bribery? ;)

I'm.. umh...not bribable. yeah, that's the ticket.

So much morality have I....
Shinigami - [( I like roses and candy)]
Monday, November 12, 2001 05:54:09 PM
IP: 172.173.47.93

Agh!!! It's official =( Just heard from my insurance adjuster that my car is totaled.

Must go shop for a new one now.

Agh!

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, November 12, 2001 04:18:09 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Sorry about that, clicker finger messed up.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Monday, November 12, 2001 03:04:40 PM
IP: 165.230.240.114

Imzadi> <<But did it play the music?>>: Actually, I think one of the H discs can. They double as music video discs.
<<"lake" implies water>>: It'll fill in.
<<Long ago, I refused to drive both my parents at the same time. They always say different things>>: My father stays quiet, but my mother keeps yelling about the deer on the side of the road, or the car two miles in front of us.
<>: Give it time.
<<Do you really want people critiquing your privates?>>: It's more attention they're getting from outside than now.
<>: Nor do I, but I knew where to find it.
<<beware my MATLAB scripts>>: Alright, give me one to take the Fourier transform of a random function, approximaed as a large vector of y values. I also have an equally large vector of x values.
<<Now where's my sex?>>: Well, you've gotten it beofre, so I'd assume you can get it again.
<<Not if there are lots of other people using it>>: Yes, it will be. I have never known the one at home to be anywhere near dialup speeds. And I mean that in the good way.

Warpmind> <<*Slobber* 8+ CDs worth of MP3s>>: I could have added another one, but it would have been full of Feynman physics lectures.
<<sorry, Gside, you just get some money>>: How about a first born son?
<<including an ORCHESTRATED version of Frog's Theme from ChronoTrigger>>: I've always liked that piece, and would love to find the flude sheet music for it.
<<thick is generally preferable to long>>: So I've heard, but as Mike might say, different strokes for different folks.

Fire Storm> <<neither allows me to copy/paste from a browsers>>: Still, there's always the pride from bein oldschool.
<<What you say?>>: Sorry, just a bit of Python worked in as pennance for skipping the last time.
<<What are you implying, surrah?>>: Mayhap your relationship with the Lady may be tilting towards the platonic side, should you be as deprived as us.

Terrky> <>: No, a long time is a Wilekian post lag.

Imzadi> <>: Centripital force, here.
<<Wait, let me check>>: Can I help?

Fleur> <<Biology? Anatomy?>>: Essentially, with some specialization in neuroscience.
<>: No, she's going into the environmental stuff on Cook. But she wants to dine with me every now and then. And if she were in my field, she might have become my TA. The sad thing is I'm already usted to something like that.
<<before meeting you and Gside, I thought engineering was a boring subject>>: I think I've only proven that engineers don't have to be boring. Most of the subject matter has been, except for maybe using graph theory to solve the Takahashi love polygon. There really are algorithms to such things.
<<They've been sucked in by your charm>>: Yes, yes I have.
<<I'll be able to explain WHY they're stronger>>: Quick thought: Having a higher silicate concentration, their muscle fibers are stronger. Yeah, it doesn't sound very scientific, but I do have a picture of those little feet walking across each other in my head.

Niamhgold> <<Only if I do a nude self portrait...which I haven't, yet>>: For some odd reason, I feel like asking you to hurry up with it.
<<Now if only they served as aphrodisiac fumes>>: Who needs fumes? I am my own aphrodesiac.
<<Doesn't mean it's not true>>: I didn't say that. I only meant that if I am, I am in denial, at least until I can try the fruits of the other side.

Archwolf> <<Would be nice if CPU prices fell again>>: They will, just maybe not before you want them to.

And since Warpmind mentioned it, the new mp3 is the orchestrated version of Frog's Theme from Chrono Trigger by Yasunori Mitsuda.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Monday, November 12, 2001 03:04:10 PM
IP: 165.230.240.114

When are the new episodes coming out? Ive been waiting ever sence last summer.
Dragonhulk - [dragon_hulk@yahoo.com]
Salt Lake City, Utah, United States
Monday, November 12, 2001 01:06:15 PM
IP: 144.35.122.16

One more comment...

Terrky >> and i got one more question... about the eyes glowing thing? is there a way to explain that? <<

In-show answer: phosphoresence triggered by a heightened emotional state.

Out of show answer: it's a cartoon and it looks damn cool.

:: exits stage left ::
Patrick Toman
Monday, November 12, 2001 12:52:48 PM
IP: 64.81.9.210

Another plane crash in NYC. Airbus A300 with over 250 aboard crashes 5 minutes after takeoff from JFK into a residential section of Queens. More preliminary info at cnn.com (or just turn on your TVs).

Josh > How about instead of badges, they just make everyone where a big bumper sticker on their forehead this year? Or better yet, go around the room at opening ceremonies and have everyone say "Hi, I'm Bob, and I'm a Gargaholic."

In my experience, nametags are rarely ever readable from across the room no matter what kind of meeting or convention you're at. Unless your name is "Bob Jones" it's really hard to fit 240 point font type on something the size of a business card. Yes, the secondary purpose nametags is to be able to stand in a small group and converse and know who you're talking to if no one is polite enough to introduce themselves. But their primary purpose is to identify those who are SUPPOSED to be there from those who are NOT. Which as we've seen lately is becoming ever more important for the safety of everyone. :/
Patrick Toman
Monday, November 12, 2001 12:49:41 PM
IP: 64.81.9.210

Fleur: Tell you what, give me a couple of weeks, and I'll have your answer. I won't be able to give you an exact answer in terms of how _much_ stronger they are (although the fact they can throw cars is probably a good indicator ;)), but I'll be able to explain WHY they're stronger --- about the throwing cars thing.... i always found that a little fakey. i mean, doesn't it seem a little over exagerated?
and i got one more question... about the eyes glowing thing? is there a way to explain that?

anyway, jsut wondering

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Monday, November 12, 2001 11:59:29 AM
IP: 208.18.58.254

*enters*

Well, I had free time, then i didn't, so I've only been able to lurk in here for the most part, but now I think I'm mostly back to stay. So what did I do that gave me so much more free time? I got a job as a computer technician, then got posted to Helpdesk. which isn't so bad, except that some people insist that this is a personal messaging service and campus operator. I can't seem to convince them otherwise. At least, not in a manner that will not cost me my job.

Boy, I can' wait till thanksgiving break. I get to spend mor time with my gf. Which is good, cause I dont get to spend enough time with her. Living and schooling in different cities, and all that. I miss her.

Lets see, what all else is going on. My computer is dead, but at a very convenient time. I might be able to talk my rents into buying all the "non-essential" parts of the new box (like the case, cooler, memory, cpu Shim, cooling compound, back power supply....) which will mean that i can complete the thing next pay check, i hope. Would be nice if CPU prices fell again.

Ack, gotta get back to work. I'll be back later today to reply to things i've seen being tossed around. probably. Among other things.

Out
Shade and Sweet Water
Archwolf - [thearchwolf@hotmail.com]
Monday, November 12, 2001 11:16:03 AM
IP: 137.148.200.184

** Niamhgold enters **

** Yawn ** I hate having to get up earlier than normal for classes just to run to the studios. Ooh, and Happy Veterans Day (or is it Remembrance Day? I don't really know, since I don't have it off ;)). Let's see...did some work, took some pictures, and went out with friends briefly on Saturday. The usual.

Hoping to go to the Gathering this year, A LOT. I'm trying to see if I can pull it off without a flight, maybe by driving down. But, thing that stinks is it's probably a 14 hour drive, and that's only if I get through the Mass and NJ turnpikes at 4 AM ;) I may fly, in which case I'll possibly meet some of you guys there. I'll see if I can stay with a friend who lives nearby; if not, I imagine I'll be looking for a roommate soon enough.

Replies!

Lynati: Ooh, thanks so much for the info! As you can tell, I'm not proficient in the 3D arts. <If you are going small-scale, wood or metal work fine for armatures> Oh, okay. So I'll just make a wire structure and cover it with clay or something ;) Thanks for the tips on what to use for the external materials, as well! I owe you a piece of chocolate cake (or maybe a lobster ;)).

FS: <But who else do you know that shows us pretty colors and flash and promises us an easy way? SATAN!> LOL. <Why is everyone leaving?!?!> Hmmm, must be real life--you know, jobs, friends, school, etc. But that's just the word; I've never seen it myself. ;) <Who had better die brutally in Episode 2> It bodes well that they didn't show him in the first preview. Unfortunately, he was in the longer one released a month-and-some-odd-days ago. I shall get him with a pitchfork, though, no worries >:)

Daddy: <They're gonna crit your privates?> Only if I do a nude self portrait...which I haven't, yet ;) <What kind of a sick school do you go to?> You shouldn't have to ask. <You don't have a fluids lab to write> Nah, I don't...I just have everything else in the world to do. <Aren't WE egotistical!?> I think you know that's not true ;) <Do we know for a fact that Jesus' did?> It's good speculation. And everyone swears using it. <Don't make me come over there> Heh heh. <Actually I've already used similar materials for models> The fumes aren't so bad. It's just the fact that the dust gets _everywhere_, except on the areas of the paper that you need it to ;) <so I'm sure I can handle the fumes> Now if only they served as aphrodisiac fumes. <As long as it wasn't random> I talk randomly, but hardly think randomly, so I doubt I'd pop up someplace I wasn't familiar with ;) <Goddamn> ^TM <Next idea?> Eh, she had 900 years to figure it out...I'm sure it was rather simple. It could have been as easy as the Sisters giving her a little hint. In black or red, hopefully. <Tomorrow I'm going to the Apple Campus> Wow. Have fun, get jobs, create random chaos ;) <Ah. I'll be leaving Sunday evening I imagine, and getting in Thursday night as well. I could definitely save a few bucks> Yeah, Thursday seems to be the best bet for me, too. Though I may leave Monday morning. <PLEASE REDESIGN THE CON BADGES> Yes, I've heard stories about those badges ;)

Gside: <Then the intestines are just a hobby, then?> Yeah, for her. I'm responsible for the remaining grotesques. Spaghetti twirled brains, fists in the coffee grinder... <That has yet to be proven> Doesn't mean it's not true. They're easy. I just imagine I'm dissecting Jose, and if it's female, Deborah Weiner.

All I have time for, this early in the morning. Adios!
Niamhgold
Monday, November 12, 2001 08:09:05 AM
IP: 206.41.204.140

*ahem*
A while ago, I was discussing what makes good fanfic with a couple of online friends, and we got onto the wonders that are proofreaders. I've noticed in one or two other fandoms, there's a site where writers can find a proofreader for their work. But as far as I can tell, despite how many writers we've got, there's none for the Gargoyles fandom.
So, um, I kinda made one.
It's still in the embroyonic stage, but if you're interested in the idea you can click on the link below, and it'll show you what I've done so far. If you'd like to be a part of it, either as a proofreader, or to request one, or even as an expert, please let me know so I have an idea of the numbers I'm dealing with.
(In case the link doesn't work, go to www.geocities.com/proofreadersplace.)

That's partly why I haven't posted earlier, even though I'm on holidays now and should really be at about Josh regularity levels of posting :). Please, tell me what you think, I'm disgustingly clueless.

Patrick> >Remember, everyone... the thoughts are only as dirty as your own mind makes them. ;)< I'm very proud of the fact that I can make _anything_ dirty. :)

Yooper> About the supporting structure.. do you mind if I link that description? I've got all this 'Science of gargoyles' stuff on my homepage (don't ask. I'm a science geek, and I get bored in class... let's just leave it at that ;)), filled with all my babblings on gargoyles biology and evolution, and your description of Eyrie supporting structure would fit right in.

Gside> >Well, you do study something there.< Biology? Anatomy? :) >I didn't think that. I thought he would attempt it.< LOL! >Ah. At least Rutgers is cheap. And now my own mother will be taking classes here. >Every... single... one... was... true.< I'm guessing you went to College at Kings Cross. During Mardi Gras ;).

Dark Prince Of Vinyl> >I know I'm really stressed out when I start laughing maniacally at 11PM about things that aren't funny or evil.You don't. Unless normal was redefined while I slept last night.< How do you know what I look like? Have you been playing around with those satilite photos again? ;) >Kind of makes keep his ashes after cremation a trick.< *l* Probably in an epitube. >I wish *I* had an evil twin.< Isn't that SJ? >Yeah, studies in fluids, dynamics, and beams/rods. Just like this semester.< You know, before meeting you and Gside, I thought engineering was a boring subject. :) >FS and Gside seem to think its well within my capabilities. They should smoke less crack.< They've been sucked in by your charm. >Its her fault for having you in the first place ;-) That's what I tell my parents.< *g* I know, but you should have seen her suggest the idea. Her: *with this expression on her face that reminds me of something small afraid of getting kicked* 'I've always wanted to do this, but I don't know... Do you think it would be silly for me to climb Uluru for my 50th birthday?' Me: 'HELL, NO!!' >That is SUCH a rare combination.< Probably why we don't have all that many superheroes.;) >I thought you graduated?< Half graduated. I've done one major, but I'm going back to do another in pharmacology. My problem is, I know I want to go into the medical side of science, but I'm not sure what type I like better. >Yeah right. Many things go in and out of style quickly, but every good clothing store has something for women with breasts.< Which must mean fashionable=not good. The current looks involve little strapless or one-shoulder numbers. Or *shudders* boob tubes. They either don't fit right or I fall right out of them. Which is a BAD thing, no matter what you might say to the contary. :) >Sounds like the first line of a porn flick.I'm an engineer, isn't that close enough?< You can bask in the reflected worship. ;) >LOL! Silly.< Very. I will readily admit that. >G2k2 is probably gonna cost me a fortune, and that's just the flight out. If a roommate and I split three nights and I pay for my flight...that's anywhere from 525 to 650 big ones.< This may make you feel better - Cheapest airfares I'm looking at is a little under 2000 big ones. That's not including the hotel (which will be doubled for me, thanks to the pi$$-weak Australian dollar), food, travel insurance, passport, and I can't even imagine what else. *grumbles* we need a Gathering in Melbourne. :)

Spike> I have a friend with Carpal tunnel, and going by her experience, I hope yours tends to go more than it comes from now on.

SOROW> >It does stand for something but I usually like to keep that to myself. I guess it does still hold true for me.< Ah, so my brain cells _were_ behaving themselves for once. Oh well, I'm sure they'll return to normal soon enough. ;)>I failed ANOTHER test this week and I'm so depressed.< :( I'm sure it's just a minor glitch, so don't worry too much about it. Your parents are right.

Welcome to the CR, Erin.

Greg> >But for now, let's all remember who the real enemy is. Those people over in S8 that hate us ;)< *LOL* >I must father fifty bastard children to carry on after I am gone. Though I am allowed to have sex with more than fifty women ;)< But is it biologically possible for you to service that many women? *ducks* ;) >What did my friend put in my morning coffee? Whatever it is, I want some more< 'reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs' - bumper sticker. :)

Terrky> >i have sopme questions about gargoyle anatomy.... like... how much stronger is the average gargoyle compared to the average man...< oooh, THAT just woke up some creativity daemons. The variety that wear lab coats. Tell you what, give me a couple of weeks, and I'll have your answer. I won't be able to give you an exact answer in terms of how _much_ stronger they are (although the fact they can throw cars is probably a good indicator ;)), but I'll be able to explain WHY they're stronger. (And you'll realise that it's not a good idea to encourage me. ;))

Winterwolf> >A few days after I mentioned it she made a full recovery. I was lucky not to get it at all...< Whoo! Glad to hear it.

Mara> >As you may or may not be aware of, Lain has decided not to be a co-admin anymore. Well, that's all well and good except for one thing... Now I am.< Congratulations! So, what is acceptable bribery? ;)

What's with all the anonymous posts all of a sudden? Usually people post 'Opps, that was me' after accidently being Anonymous. Don't be lazy, please, IPs confuse the hell out of me. :)

Coyote> >(one of which for some reason was named Merv)< Don't you know it's dangerous to name them? Use numbers, it's much safer. :) >I'll post when I feel like it, but it won't be often.< Good.

Stephen>*LOL!* Never let it be said you don't know how to make an entrance. :)

Okay, I'm going to go now. *Another Plug* Go visit the site! Please?
TTFN!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Monday, November 12, 2001 06:30:03 AM
IP: 203.25.148.61

Today I actually accomplished a fair amount of crap. I call it "crap" because in the grand scheme of things, its really irrelevant stuff. Oh well.

Tomorrow I'm going to the Apple Campus. I'm really excited about it, I hear its really beautiful and I've never been before. We're gonna walk around with some friends of ours that work there. Maybe we'll get our names in with the people who can get us jobs.

replies

IceBladeX: I think an IRC room is a great idea. The only problem is that IRC doesn't work very well for people who have no idea what they're doing when t comes to computers (and, as I've discovered, there are a LOT of people like that in the fandom).

Now, a Hotline/Carracho server where we can share files too...THAT"S the way to go!

Patrick: <<20 meg updated driver downloads>>: A driver should not take more than a few k. <<won't be checking out until Monday>>: Ah. I'll be leaving Sunday evening I imagine, and getting in Thursday night as well. I could definitely save a few bucks. <<You're going to go no matter what the cost, and I'm concerned about my budget - it's like we've switched sides now>>: I don't think that's ironic, more just...expected ;-) <<time to go reinstall some hardware>>: Oh and that just sounds like a blast. Thank god all my drivers are built-in.

Christine: <<I'm not going _that_ far ... yet...>>: Yeah, right. I predict by the end of the year.

Siryn: <<its OKAY if its a rant or two>>: In that case: PLEASE REDESIGN THE CON BADGES! Not that I *mind* looking at every girl's chest to find out her name, but I shouldn't have to stare at it to read the really tiny writing. That gets...awkward ;-)

Baldy: <<8+ CDs worth of MP3s>>: What? that's it? Bah. <<it's the quiet ones that are dangerous? >>: See previous George Carlin quote. <<thick is generally preferable to long. Oh, wait, we were still talking about the CD cases>>: There too. <<you'd be astonished at the range of the music>>: I think our library is at 70 gig now. <<not toasters... children>>: Ooh quite a ride.

Spacebabie: <<to quote Snyder “Whoa Summers you drive like a spaz”>>: Someone said that to me...oh it was my ex-girlfriend when I decided to go play chicken with a semi.

Greg X: <>: Don't we all? <<now I'm probably going to be fired>>: Sucks. <<Barbara Streisand is pure evil>>: I don't think I agree whoeheartedly. <<Her mother was a jackal and her father was an Insurance Salesman>>: How does that make her evil and not just a dog? <>: Now where have I heard that before.

Stephen: Interesting song.

Fire Storm: <<do to Willows psyche>>: I imagine it'll screw it up. <<It will give me something to work on>>: Don't you have an exo-frame to build. <<neither allows me to copy/paste from a browsers>>: I think you need word for grammar checking more than spell checking. <<Love dosn't make the world go around>>: I vote for momentum. <<with a high age>>: 23. That's not high. <<how many lines of code are in the version that came with OS-X>>: a) its OS X and b) 10 I think, because one for the application and a few more to specify how the application opens and saves files. But basically the whole program is built into the "NSapplication" class. <<So will you be on the battlefield?>>: Not counting the picture on my website, how stupid do I look? <<the smoking crater will get filled with water soon enough!>>: Which will evaporate in the desert heat. <<So you prefer flat chests>>: Hardly. There's a large scale between big breasts and no breasts. <<are you SURE you arn't into men>>; Wait, let me check. No. <<amsterdam>>: What is my sex doing there? <<Coyote/Hyena/Matrix sex scene>>: That'd be interesting. <<They will just crucify you upside down!>>: I was gonna crucify him on a pentgram. <<why is everyone leaving>>: Because as soon as I get involved in something, it becomes un-cool.

Todd: <<But she has the attitude>>: I don't think that counts for much.

Tim: Cool quote.

Terrky: <>: That's terrible.

Hmmm...I should sleep, since I have to be up at a reasonable hour tomorrow.

Yankee Doodle Floppy Disk - Lt. Commander Block, Hot Shots!
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, November 12, 2001 03:18:22 AM
IP: 64.161.24.34

*stumbles in*

'ENG' fired off at 12:07 am. that was abotu 20 mins. ago.
When I said "all day in the kiln room" that be exactly what it meant. and you don't want to know what time I went in.
I did finish and spray six pieces, tho, and worked on two clay ones.
I need to floss my teeth. and look at my email. night, all.
*poofles*
Lynati-the-tired - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Monday, November 12, 2001 01:32:51 AM
IP: 207.94.232.58

Warpmind -- There are all sorts of IQ tests that mensa accepts -- all you would need to do is take any of those.
silvadel
Monday, November 12, 2001 12:36:19 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

hey everyone! i haven't posted here for a long time. to be honest, it has just gotten boreing. maybe its just me. so i'll post just to get back in the habbit of comeing here.

well, i do know that NukesGoBoom is not planning on comeing back. at least for a while.

well, not much has happened lately. i got a new beatles cd. i got Abbey Road. i'm listening to it right now. ringo is singing. that guy has a very wierd voice.

anyway, see everyone later!

"if i got no future, i still got a past"

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [srs@postmark.net]
Kansas
Monday, November 12, 2001 12:24:58 AM
IP: 64.197.198.165

Happy Vetrans Day.

For many, Veterans Day had become little more than a day of flying flags, visits to the cemetery, old soldiers in uniform, and gradually thinning parades down Main Street — but the first post-9-11 Veterans Day saw the often-overlooked holiday infused with a new meaning - or being reminded of an old one.

Yesterday was the 226th birthday of the United States Marine Corps.

This resolution of the Continental Congress marked the establishment of what is now the United States Marine Corps.

"Resolved, That two Battalions of marines be raised, consisting of one Colonel, two Lieutenant Colonels, two Majors, and other officers as usual in other regiments; and that they consist of an equal number of privates with other battalions; that particular care be taken, that no persons be appointed to office, or inlisted into said Battalions, but such as are good seamen, or so acquainted with maritime affairs as to be able to serve to advantage by sea when required: that they be inlisted and commissioned to serve for and during the present war between Great Britain and the colonies, unless dismissed by order of Congress: that they be distinguished by the names of the first and second battalions of American Marines, and that they be considered part of the number which the continental Army before Boston is ordered to consist of."
Tim Phipps
Monday, November 12, 2001 12:10:45 AM
IP: 198.133.245.3

True, Anya doesn't have the tools that she once had as a vengeance-demon. But she has the attitude, and that can be scary even when you're dealing with mundane skills and abilities.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, November 11, 2001 09:32:27 PM
IP: 168.191.109.189

Buffy Stuff: Oh man oh man... What will all that happened in the musical episode do to Willows physche?

Todd Jensen: <when your bride-to-be is an ex-vengeance demon>
EX-vengance demon is the important part. Unless Anya steals the card that the... 'recruiters' gave to Willow. Or Willow becomes the vengance demon and her first job is Anya.

Gunjack: 
Sucks. Oh well...
It will give me something to work on.

Gside: <Maybe you should start using edit in DOS, or maybe vi.>
Ah, but to my knowledge, neither allows me to copy/paste from a browsers.
<The castle rising was a trigger for ending the spell>
Most likely. I just wanted to see the general consensus in here.
<But shouldn't that also have the effect of restoring all misspellings?>
...
Um... no?

What you say?

Love dosn't make the world go around. Kink does!
<Ergo, of Immortals had a beginning, they would still have an age, even if it was mostly meaningless and possibly incredibly huge>
Well, I had a birth... so that makes me immortal. With a high age.
<Such a shame>
True. Now I just gotta find some white chocolate cocoa for LM (Without coffee in it)
<Quite, but that's probably what they had to use, considering the tech of the time.>
Now look at us! Micro cameras, Fiber optics, and the whole bit! If I were to do that now, not only would they be smaller, but cheaper as well.
...
Hmm...

What are you implying, surrah? *FS grabs the sword on his belt*

Imzadi: <But a clean coder does it in two, just to make his code readable>
But how many lines of code are in the version that came with OS-X
<Yeah yeah, whatever Obi-wan>
Still better than Jar-Jar. Who had better die brutally in Episode 2.
<No one gets to tell my troops where to die but me>
So will you be on the battlefield?
I forgot about radios! Still...
<"lake" implies water>
Well, the smoking crater will get filled with water soon enough!
<HAH. Don't bet on it>
Hey, if it can happen to Dargo, it can happen to you!
<Actually, big breasts aren't my thing. But thanks for offering.>
So you prefer flat chests? Are you SURE you arn't into men? ;)
<Now where's my sex?>
Amsterdam.

Christine: <but when they ARE brain-eating zombies and that's the theme of the book, it's hardly a stereotype!>
Still... It's like saying you are a air breathing human! ;)
<the rules posted in AvMists make it clear that it's supposed to depict the children that would result from various unlikely pairings>
Damn. ;)
So, no pics of the Coyote/Hyena/Matrix sex scene, eh?

Greg Bishansky: 
Did you call your manager?
<Cool, want to be a Ringwraith?>
A wraith shaped like a ring? Ow! ;)
<But I am the Dark Messiah. I am the Dark Lord.>
Big deal. They will just crucify you upside down! ;)

Stephen Sobotka, Jr.: <Also, I may not be posting a lot as I used to... but I will keep my eye out in here from time to time.>
WHAT THE FRELL? Why is everyone leaving?!?!

**Sigh** Now I say goodbye to the last binary day for a little over 8 years.
Fire Storm
Sunday, November 11, 2001 09:27:06 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

TAKE 2!!! <CLAK!>

[The rumble of a big-block diesel... the slow grind of heavy bass... the twang of southern steel... And just when you're not sure about what's going to happen, the doors to the CR ERUPT inwards! The flood-lights from a monster truck - painted in a patriotic red-white-blue - fill the room as the big machine rolls in to the tunes of a particular Detriot favotite.

On the hood, perched with his big white fedorah and a brown leather bomber on, rounding out his usual outfit of a white t-shirt and denim slacks, a larger-than-life figure grins at the CR occupants before he starts belting out to the tunes issuing from the boomin' sound system:]

"Oooh, I'm BACK! (back!)
The fog has lifted, the earth has shifted
So, raist the gifted!
You knew I'd be back so pack your bones
And HIT THE ROAD, JACK, 'cause Daddy's home!

With the funky-hot licks, thick like Al Roker
Spittin' out hits, gettin' chips like Oprah.
B!#@* I done told ya, do not hate
Or question the fiction I make!

I make GARGS rock, and I mix it with the FAN art!
I'll get you higher than a TREE top!
You want to roll with the KID, Rock? (Yeeeah!)
I make the FANS rock, with the power of my FIC Rock!
I got it tighter than FORT KNOX!
I'll forever be a GARG ROCK! (Yeaaah!)

[Climbing off the big monster rig, the once and future King of Crossover Fiction lands on the floor, tipping his hat back to grin as he sends the FX people a big tip for their help...]

Got to love having a buget unlimited by imagination! Greetings all...

Well, the problems with my virus-plagued computer seem to be over, for the moment. I got the buggy drive off my system, and I'm forced to use my backup drive as my main for the moment... fortunately, nothing of major importance was infected or lost, so I should still be able to continue Rockin' the the free world. ^_^

I'll just have to say I'm sorry I didn't get things done with some of you that I should have (looks pointedly at Christine), but now that the virus is out and gone, expect some stuff from me real soon.

Also, I may not be posting a lot as I used to... but I will keep my eye out in here from time to time.

That's all from me for now... Maintain and check Six!

Stephen "Rockin'" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Sunday, November 11, 2001 07:54:47 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

[The rumble of a big-block diesel... the slow grind of heavy bass... the twang of southern steel... And just when you're not sure about what's going to happen, the doors to the CR ERUPT inwards! The flood-lights from a monster truck - painted in a patriotic red-white-blue - fill the room as the big machine rolls in to the tunes of a particular Detriot favotite.

On the hood, perched with his big white fedorah and a brown leather bomber on, rounding out his usual outfit of a white t-shirt and denim slacks, a larger-than-life figure grins at the CR occupants before he starts belting out to the tunes issuing from the boomin' sound system:]

"Oooh, I'm BACK! (back!)
The fog has lifted, the earth has shifted
So, raist the gifted!
You knew I'd be back so pack your bones
And HIT THE ROAD, JACK, 'cause Daddy's home!

With the funky-hot licks, thick like Al Roker
Spittin' out hits, gettin' chips like Oprah.
B!#@* I done told ya, do not hate
Or question the fiction I make!

I make GARGS rock, and I mix it with the FAN art!
I'll get you higher than a TREE top!
You want to roll with the KID, Rock? (Yeeeah!)
I make the FANS rock, with the power of my FIC Rock!
I got it tighter than FORT KNOX!

Stephen "Rockin'" Sobotka, Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Sunday, November 11, 2001 07:48:27 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

I hate my job.

I was supposed to open the book store today and worked last on Friday and the way this works is either I take the key from the cash register to open the store on Sunday, or my boss shows up to open the store for me (she lives down the street from the place). Well, the key was not in the store that day, so I assumed she'd be opening the place up on Sunday as she has done before. She never showed up, and I stood outside the place for two hours waiting, and it was cold and windy. I left after two hours, and now I'm probably going to be fired... but I don't care. I've got another job lined up and my friend from High School is the manager.

DPH> <<if you wanted to raise something controversial, say Barney does not suck.>> Umm, but I don't care about Barney either way. It is beneath my attention.

GSIDE> <<<<Blame Barbara Streisand>>: What happened to blaming Moochie?>> Barbara Streisand is pure evil.

FIRE STORM> <> Cool, want to be a Ringwraith?

JOSH> <<FAMILY GUY!>> Yes, very fun show. <<You are missing out, my friend. You would have laughed your butt off at the episode on wednesday.>> Well, I'll just download the episode at www.spgermany.com <<Nah, that station is reserved for Bill Gates.>> Bill Gates is but a small pawn in the overall conspiracy of evil that leads back to Barbara Streisand. Her mother was a jackal and her father was an Insurance Salesman. <<No offense taken. Best of luck with that. Just because you are the messiah doesn't mean you get any authority/power. I mean, we crucified Jesus.>> But I am the Dark Messiah. I am the Dark Lord.
Greg Bishansky
Sunday, November 11, 2001 07:17:34 PM
IP: 216.179.4.214

Ok for some reason my right eyelid has been doing this eyelid twitchy thing on an off all day

*****************BUFFY SPOILERS****************************************************
Finally got to see the musical (stupid basketball game)
Love the songs, some of them can really sing. My favorite song was sung by Spike. I knew Tara would find out about Willow’s spell soon and Dawn is turning into quite the Klepto. Liked Anya’s fear about bunnies song. I didn’t excpect Buffy to sing about being plucked from Heaven a nd I didn’t see that end with Spike WOWZA
Spoilers end
*************************************************************************************

Josh No to quote Snyder “Whoa Summers you drive like a spaz”

Coyote and Raven<<<Please don’t go into lurk mode>>>

IcebladeX<<<Welcome to the CR. Please deposit you sanity into a little jar>>>

Aaron<<<Nabbing Nein and ticking off Josh>>>Mwa ha ha
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Sunday, November 11, 2001 03:18:48 PM
IP: 63.15.253.213

*Warpmind wanders in, in some extensive degree of bliss.*
Hi, gang... *Slobber* 8+ CDs worth of MP3s, much of which I would gladly have sacrificed body parts for (sorry, Gside, you just get some money), including an ORCHESTRATED version of Frog's Theme from ChronoTrigger... *Walks on clouds*

Aaaanyway...

Jan: That guy you had to care for a few hours... clean-cut? Polite? Don't you know... *Slowly lowers glasses a little, peering over the edge, an Anime Villain-ish gleam in the eyes* ...that it's the quiet ones that are dangerous? };)

Silvadel: *Groan* The nationwide test was yesterday... *Mutter* Now, if I'm gonna have a go at that test, I'll have to wait a year... *Grumble, thumps head against desk*

Christine: "Braaaaaaaaiiiiiinnnnnns!" ;) By the way, if you ever come upon Diablo 2, you might discover that SOME of the zombies there occasionally say "What's for eating?" instead of "Braaaaaaaaiiiiiinnnnnns!"... Funny, no? };)

Gside: Everything appears intact. And as you ought to be aware of, thick is generally preferable to long. Oh, wait, we were still talking about the CD cases... Anyway...

Josh: With eight discs stuffed with MP3s, you'd be astonished at the range of the music. };) And no, not toasters... children. And, of course, random rooftiles, vehicles and shrubs.

That about concludes things... Catch y'all later.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, November 11, 2001 03:04:47 PM
IP: 193.217.208.51

Christine> Thanks for the advice. I'll keep it in mind :)
SOROW - [allison.abadie@mail.utexas.edu]
Sunday, November 11, 2001 03:04:26 PM
IP: 129.116.38.151

eeee pretty picture!! ^_^;;

Jan> Thanks for the URL. I'm glad I could try and help out you a bit. ^_^

Josh> Eh, not really, I've been a student aid for a daycare center, but I don't think that counts. ^_^;; I just want everyone to feel comfortable with emailing me..and its OKAY if its a rant or two. Because honestly, I'd much rather hear it from the source so I can actually TRY to help the person out and DO something about the problem, then hear it later second-handed and not be able to do much of anything. :)
Siryn - [siryn7@aol.com]
Sunday, November 11, 2001 02:45:27 PM
IP: 24.93.24.2

Fire Storm > but when they ARE brain-eating zombies and that's the theme of the book, it's hardly a stereotype! ; )

Josh > the "If They Mated" challenge is for both artists and writers; the rules posted in AvMists make it clear that it's supposed to depict the children that would result from various unlikely pairings (NOT pics and fics depicting the actual conception; I may have tarnished AvMists' family-friendly image a bit with the Titania's Secret Catalog but I'm not going _that_ far ... yet ... the Plain Brown Wrapper issue is still a nebulous possibility).
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:03:13 AM
IP: 64.24.214.50

I'm loving my DSL connection more and more ever since this XP upgrade... it really speeds up those 20 meg updated driver downloads. :: waiting for the latest to finish so webcam can be properly reinstalled ::

Josh: >>But the con is Friday to Sunday.<< Yeah... but I'm driving down and will probably be driving on Thursday and checking in that night, and won't be checking out until Monday. And there's just something that rubs me the wrong way about the possibility that while other guests in the hotel are paying the regular "best available" room rate, as quoted online, of $85 on Thursday and Sunday, I could be stuck paying the convention "discount" rate of $99 for all four nights I'm there if I book using the convention code. (Side comment - ironic, isn't it? You're going to go no matter what the cost, and I'm concerned about my budget - it's like we've switched sides now.)

Eep. My download is done... time to go reinstall some hardware. :)

Patrick Toman
Sunday, November 11, 2001 09:44:13 AM
IP: 66.72.203.60

Hello, I really enjoy this website, and I love what you've done with the fan fiction. I can really see it played out in my head.
I was wondering if you would like an IRC chat room to use. I help run a server thats linked to several other servers (www.velocityx.net) and I have the channel #gargoyles already reserved.
Just wondering if anyone was interested, I dont talk to many Gargoyles fans and I didnt think I saw a chat room link anywhere on here.
irc.velocityx.net (the main room is #chatzone, peak hours are after 11pm central time)
IceBladeX - [IanMcMian@hotmail.com]
columbus, indiana, usa
Sunday, November 11, 2001 06:52:37 AM
IP: 63.52.218.122

Hey folks.

I spent today writing my lab report. It was really easy, it just took a while because of the sheer amount of data involved. Fortunately, I was able to write a little program to perform all the calculations for me, so that saved me several hours.

Now if I can just get it to graph correctly.

G2k2 is probably gonna cost me a fortune, and that's just the flight out. If a roommate and I split three nights and I pay for my flight...that's anywhere from 525 to 650 big ones.

Why do I have a feeling I'm gonna wind up going no matter what the price?

replies.

Baldy: <<holding up a blue folder of some sort in a very Zelda-like fashion>>: But did it play the music? <<getting some nanites to improve efficiency of my biological processes is definitely interesting, and if such a process were to correct my eyes at the same time, it'd be a plus>>: Did you ever see the Outer Limits episode with the nanites? By the end of the episode, the guy had gills, eyes in the back of his head, and four arms. Pretty scary. <<we have to accomodate our technology to handle low-flying objects>>: Toasters?

Jan: <<would you kindly remove my butt from the wringer>>: Where is this wringer, and how exactly does one get their butt in there? <>: She was a programmer? <<they found a huge reefer in his sock>>: I hate it when that happens. Question: now that you work for law enforcement, does that mean we can't post any of the illegal things we do? <<He was clean cut and decent looking as well as being polite and soft spoken>>: And while you're watching the quiet one...THE LOUD ONE WILL F*CKING KILL YOU! - George Carlin. <<Is this something that I might be interested in?>>: Depends on whether or not you have $40-50 a month to spend. <<what are the advantages of having it over my current internet connection?>>: Its BLAZING fast. If you use your current connection simply for viewing a few websites, then it'll make no difference to you and you might as well stick with your modem...generally, they're more reliable than broadband. But if you want to download movies, programs, music, whatever...it'll take minutes instead of hours. The cons are: price and reliability. A regular dialup connection probably costs you $20/month, this will cost two to three times that. And the service screws up occasionally too, and no one will know why. Incredibly frustrating. <<Please don't stone me!>>: Ah, you're no fun. <<to the Newport airport - $389... to the Norfolk airport - $212>>: Tough choice there. <<Whatever happen to the days of flying into a major airport and taking a shuttle to the con hotel?>>: We moved the con away from them, apparently. <<it looks as if I'll be flying into Norfolk too so maybe if we can get the scheduling to coordinate, I'll drive the rental and if others want to ride with me, we can all split the cost of the rental car or something like that>>: I'm THERE! I'm probably flying in Thursday if I go.

Patrick: <<I'm betting most people flying from any long distance are going to end up routed to Norfolk if they want cheap and/or nonstop flights>>: That's me. <<for Sundays through Thursdays on that week>>: But the con is Friday to Sunday.

Spacebabie: <<flu shot>>: Hmmm, that's not a bad idea. I probably should do that. <>: Not at all?

Silvadel: <<when they dumbed down the SAT, mensa stopped accepting that test>>: Interesting, since they altered the grading scale to match. What about SAT II tests?

Christine: <<Bruce has that enormous chin>>: An enormous chin does not a tick make. <<If They Mated>>: Is that an art challenge or a fic challenge? ;-)

Siryn: <<Nooo question is too silly or dumb or UNIMPORTANT>>: You've never been a teacher, have you?

FS: <<But how much does it ACTUALLY take?>>: Well that depends on your coding style. It could be done in one. But a clean coder does it in two, just to make his code readable. <<not a full FORTRESS class one>>: Okay, fine. <<If you strike me down...>>: Yeah yeah, whatever Obi-wan. <<those cannon fodder leaders that will tell your troops where to die>>: No one gets to tell my troops where to die but me. <<Good ole Lake America>>: "lake" implies water. <>: Oh, well der. Of course it isn't. Only *i* am perfect. <<but you will change>>: HAH. Don't bet on it. <<Apple just dropped the P>>: Uh huh. <<Don't be tempted by the fruit>>: Even if it glows? <<Sure, the movie was Fight Club>>: Actually, big breasts aren't my thing. But thanks for offering.

DPH: <>: Long ago, I refused to drive both my parents at the same time. They always say different things.

Coyote: <<one of which for some reason was named Merv>>: What a bizarre name.

Gside: <<The castle rising was a trigger for ending the spell, not temporarialy rendering it ineffective>>: Agreed. <<Immortals had a beginning, they would still have an age, even if it was mostly meaningless and possibly incredibly huge>>: Well, I am immortal...though I'm also 20. <<Such a shame>>: Guess he can't code textedit in one line. <>: Do you really want people critiquing your privates? <<mayhap she should shave>>: Couldn't hurt. <<Rats. You don't know what you're missing>>: I don't need to know, either. <<Wouldn't it be more accurate if it were a suburb of both LA and SF?>>: Sure. <<Very nice, but can you print primes in Perl with one line?>>: I can't, no. I don't do PERL. But beware my MATLAB scripts. <<you seem to be currently biding your time>>: Till what? A rainy day? ::looks outside:: It's frickin' pouring! Now where's my sex? ;-) <<But compared to a modem, it will still be Blazingly Fast>>: Not if there are lots of other people using it.

Ooh, 2AM. Sleeeeeep.

We secretly switched our professor's water with ether in a thermal conductivity experiment. Let's see if he notices. -Mike Margolis, Physics 7B
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, November 11, 2001 05:14:07 AM
IP: 64.161.24.34

So is everyone having a good weekend? From the previous post things seem to be almost "normal" (uh-huh). My week was interesting, I had to help load trucks and trailers onto trains. Then we had to tie them down, it took awhile but we finally got it done and sent it of to Ft. Polk. Anyway in about two weeks I follow the train and I'll be gone for about a month.

Later.

Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Sunday, November 11, 2001 03:05:38 AM
IP: 205.188.197.189

I thought I had selected my color. Oh, well.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, November 11, 2001 02:57:58 AM
IP: 165.230.240.114

Fire Storm> <<She thinks I should use Word because my spelling sucks and I forget to turn off word wrap>>: But then you'd have a memory drining program open, as well as all that extra unnecessary furmatting. Maybe you should start using edit in DOS, or maybe vi.
<<If the castle fell, would they still remain alive or would they revert back to stone?>>: I vote they'd stay alive. The castle rising was a trigger for ending the spell, not temporarialy rendering it ineffective.
<<For the benefit of our non-1337 speaking audience, I translated it back into standard English>>: But shouldn't that also have the effect of restoring all misspellings?
<<some words don't have a direct translation. I mean, look at Zero Wing>>: I think that might be more a problem of varying word order, as well as... oh. Idioms, sir? Yes, idioms.
<<WAIT! What am I saying! You can never have enough kink!>>: I was worried for a second.
<<Is that what you are trying to say?>>: Essentially. Ergo, of Immortals had a beginning, they would still have an age, even if it was mostly meaningless and possibly incredibly huge.
<<Plus, I have no cocoa>>: Such a shame.
<<The most unbelievable thing about that movie is that the women never noticed the big frigging camera>>: Quite, but that's probably what they had to use, considering the tech of the time.
Imzadi> <<They're gonna crit your privates? What kind of a sick school do you go to?>>: I don't know, but can I get in? And mayhap she should shave.
<<Brunette FEMALES>>: Rats. You don't know what you're missing.
<<If California was a just a big suburb of Los Angeles I'd expect the same thing>>: Wouldn't it be more accurate if it were a suburb of both LA and SF?
<<No one wrote a song yet>>: I'm sure it can be filked.
<<The entire simpletext program can be written in virtually one line of Cocoa>>: Very nice, but can you print primes in Perl with one line? perl -le '$_ = 1; (1 x $_) !~ /^(11+)\1+$/ && print while $_++'
<<Sex. Sex. Sex. You'd think we were deprived>>: I am, you seem to be currently biding your time, but Fire Storm should be getting enough. Unless...

Warpmind> <<The Eagle Has Landed>>: That is a copy, repeat, that is a copy, over.
<<Four feet off isn't amazing>>: It is to me.
<<And I'd expect a smaller, thicker folder, rather than the long, slim one I got>>: Some like it long, some like it thick. I've got one in the same style myself, and have no problems with it. And is everything intact?
<<Strolls out, humming the theme to "Ah! Megami-Sama!">>: I suggest Recca soon, and have you queued the movie disc to the timestamp I provided yet?

Jan> <<what are the advantages of having it over my current internet connection?>>: Assuming you have a modem now, it will be Blazingly Fast. The only possibly bad thing is that if too many people near you are using it too much, it will slow down. But compared to a modem, it will still be Blazingly Fast.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, November 11, 2001 02:57:21 AM
IP: 165.230.240.114

Firestorm><<Hey, is there a good way to figure out the correct amount of rifling for a barrel?>> I don't think there's really a magic formula for this. The main thing is to have enough lands/grooves to avoid excessive deformation of the projectile, and to make sure the twist is appropriate for the length of the projectile.
V
Sunday, November 11, 2001 01:35:22 AM
IP: 192.133.129.4

Eleven? *^_^*

Just keeping in practice!

Mooncat
Mooncat
Sunday, November 11, 2001 12:48:53 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Hey! Bastard. Ten
Josh
Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:56:31 PM
IP: 64.161.24.34

Nein!

(Yes, I am stealing Josh's gag) ;)

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:52:10 PM
IP: 204.31.249.9

EIGHTH!
Fire Storm and Lady Mystic
Dearborn, MI
Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:35:02 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Top Ten!!!
Fleur
Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:32:33 PM
IP: 203.25.148.63

*leans back in*

Hey, Niamhgold; I left you a response earlier today; ie, now in the "last week" section. just didn't want you to miss it.

*back to tha art work-ing*
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:32:05 PM
IP: 205.184.255.1

Wow I am early this time around -- prob 5th
silvadel
Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:29:53 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

fourth
Anonymous
Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:28:06 PM
IP: 205.213.142.155

We claim Top Ten space this week in the name of the Netherlands!

Okay, now we've covered everyone in the Spanish Main ...

(aside from Coyote: After a couple days of sleep-deprived consultation with a council consisting of me, myself, I, and a couple other guys in my head (one of which for some reason was named Merv) ... I'm going to assume a holding pattern ... I'll post when I feel like it, but it won't be often.)
Coyote and Ravyn
Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:26:51 PM
IP: 64.243.214.159

2nd.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:23:05 PM
IP: 165.230.240.114

First?
Lynati Kshudra
Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:21:16 PM
IP: 205.184.255.1