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hmmm, isn't the room suppostsa reset itself today?
Terrky K - [rock_star_x11@yahoo.com]
Kansas
Sunday, December 16, 2001 02:13:54 AM
IP: 64.197.199.121

Well, to bed I go -- Tis 11:52pm here -- Looks like they are starting the chat room late this time (too late unless this gets weird).

silvadel
Saturday, December 15, 2001 11:47:10 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

[finds an isolated spot to lurk]
ok, just to make it fair... with various mutant/holographic/normal/whatever mistletoes roaming the room, I'm gonna stand right here by myself until it's safe. unless you want a kiss, I'd advise you to not stand next to me... you never know whne misteltoe might pop up overhead.

hmm.... mistletoe is a parasite... and its name means "dung on a twig"
Daphne - [<-- learn more about mistletoe]
Saturday, December 15, 2001 10:47:28 PM
IP: 129.68.138.125

Jan - are you sure that was my holographic mistletoe? *points at a spot on a really high point in the ceiling*

Nope, it's impossible spill water that high. Water can't short it out, considering the hologram is being continiously projected from another universe from our past. I care about protecting only my holographic mistletoe, not anybody else's mistletoe. If you insist on mutating mistletoe, mine's off limits.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, December 15, 2001 09:54:00 PM
IP: 204.94.193.55

*walks in carrying a glass of water*
*stumbles and spills the water all over DPH's hologram mistletoe*

oops! sorry about that! Did I short it out?? O_O
Jan
Saturday, December 15, 2001 09:38:35 PM
IP: 12.110.236.161

** Niamhgold enters **

Eh, so we have a Mistletoe infestation, do we? Well, I was waiting to use these nukes for thwarting world domination plans, but...

** Lifts the trigger **
Niamhgold
Saturday, December 15, 2001 09:12:41 PM
IP: 208.197.116.56

*FS enters the CR and throws around Sevarius Brand Mistletoe all over the CR*

MUAHHHHHHH! Stop that!

Hmm... not nearly evil enough... Hmm...
*FS combines some of the mistletoe DNA with his own DNA*
I give you... FACEHUGGER MISTLETOE!
Fire Storm
Saturday, December 15, 2001 08:27:53 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

[delurks]

christmas movies>> ok, technically they're not movies, but I vote for "Merry Christmas Charlie Brown" (or whatever the offical name of that is) and "A Pinky and the Brain Christmas"

12 days of christmas>> ok, the deal with that is.... it's all symbolism. Catholics were forbidden to practice in England, so they made up a song to teach their children CAtholic teachings -- at least, that's the theory. it's a big secret code.
check the link for more information.

have a merry one!
[relurks]
Daphne - [<-- 12 days of christmas info]
Saturday, December 15, 2001 08:27:49 PM
IP: 129.68.138.125

Computer, turn off the hologram of the mistletoe and begin analysis of how to prevent its mutation. Create a new hologram of the mistletoe that can not be effected by radiation, biological agents, or magic.
"Acknowledged. New hologram of mistletoe coming online now in the CR," says the computer.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, December 15, 2001 08:19:40 PM
IP: 204.94.193.11

Well, I finished my big reread of "The Lord of the Rings" this afternoon; I got all the way to the end with Frodo departing Middle-earth at the Grey Havens. It's been years since I last did something like that; I should really reread this book (I mean, *really* reread it, from start to finish) more often. It was good to be reminded of just how great it is.

And just 4 days before the movie comes out, which means that I made good time.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, December 15, 2001 07:58:33 PM
IP: 168.191.109.24

Niamh> <<There once was a boy from Nantucket...>>
Who kept all his cash in a bucket.
His daughter named Fran
Ran away with a man
And as for the bucket, Nantucket.

Very hot indeed. :P
Wilek "As he stepped into the night air, little did he realize the fire escape was not there" Nereus
Saturday, December 15, 2001 07:58:18 PM
IP: 168.143.112.8

** Niamhgold enters **

Well, I finally made it. Not only through finals week with a hefty cold, a complete Flash-animated movie (although quite amateur), and a handful of other mass assignments, but also a drive up the east coast from Baltimore to NH in eight hours. What can I say...leave at 4 am and you don't hit traffic. _Anywhere_.

And, yay, it's almost Christmas, almost the new year! I'm so happy I could spit :)

I'll try my best to work on replies but, because I'm dog tired (I've had two hours of sleep thanks to prepping portfolio pics so my teacher could submit some to the sophomore show, spending, as my class said, "way too long animating" a movie and preparing a frame-by-frame comic of it, an AH final, a horrible drawing crit and a pretty cool writing crit), I'm probably only going to deal with stuff said in the past week. If there was anything pressing directed at me and I skip it...just restate and I'd be glad to reply. Otherwise, I think the room has done quite well without me ;)

And will be skipping these flame wars...

Replies!

Wilek: Jeebers, man...you should post like that every day ;) <(He's formulated a quite disturbing avatar...)> Care to share? <Favorite Christmas movies? :) Mine are Scrooged, Gremlins, and The Nightmare Before Christmas.> I'll definitely go with Scrooged...but Christmas Story is a classic cult and I still have this weird thing for Home Alone ;) Of course, my faves are the cartoon specials, like the old Rocko's Modern Life Xmas ;)

Patrick: <someone has posted a 9/11 fanfic and put the entire cast in the middle of the action> Hmmm...interesting. Although it's good you say that, since I haven't really looked at the fic archive in a little over six months. ** sigh ** I'm too scatterbrained for my own good.

FS: <Most of the time she dosn't wear any underware at all> Is underware like silverware? ;) Or some other...accessory? <Hey, I had the choice between an office Christmas party and getting my teeth drilled> Novocaine just numbs your mouth. Chatting with the office regulars numbs the _brain_.

Jan: <breaks our heart to see these small children arriving at school when it's 25 degrees out and the wind blowing and all they are wearing is a t-shirt> Awww...that's horrible. There were some kids here like that when I was little...and when it's -15 and icing, it's not a pretty sight :( I donated two of my coats last year, and I'm thinking of giving some earmuffs and mittens this time around (as I have no more coats to give ;)). <(he also sticks a bag of candy or gum in the pocket of each coat so that the child finds a "goodie")> Do you know what? That's the real Xmas spirit...we're missing some of that around here these days :)

Nukes: <yes, the GeForce3 is a good choice. i have one now and it OWNS> Yummmmmm. :)

Daddy: <No wonder the bastard prof wouldn't give out solutions. Finished in just over 2 hours> Congratulations! <But study I did...if by study you mean cram all the information into my TI-83> Ah, yes...still have mine from HS. And, of course, I still use it ;) Although the back has an interesting etching on it. The problems with being bored in AH class ;) <And, in other news, my final grade in fluids was an A-...> That's not particularly _bad_, you know ;) <But oh well, I passed with flying colors> And here I have just passed _out of_ flying colors. <My Christmas List...> Somehow I find it out of character that "hot chicks" are listed at the bottom. I mean, I can see the GeForce3 being on top, but still... <Of course, then I remember that I'm Jewish and I've already gotten my presents> Well, if you wish hard enough Santa might give you a little something anyways. Hopefully it's not coal unless you want to heat a stove. <Bounce spacebabie bounce> Not gonna say a word...>:P <especially when I get to lord them over other people> There's just something about hardcover. <Guess what I am?> Um... <Nope, not that> Curses. <Nope, not that either> Foiled again! <I'm HIV negative! Woohoo> Oh, okay then, congrats! Apparently a responsible decision is repaid in full.

Shadowrider: I have your email (and am holding it hostage!) ;) Nah, just kidding...I should hopefully get around to it this weekend, finals kind of had me swamped ;)

Lynati: Congrats on getting through school :) <T.S. Eliot was bigot, Lewis Carol a pederast, and any poem longer than two words is conclusively about sex> Oh, yeah. There once was a boy from Nantucket... <I’ve learned that most potters die early due to chemical poisonings> Ooh, yeah. Charcoal is pretty nasty. I did these life-size drawings this year (ugh, Life Drawing) and, um, didn't always take the precaution of a dust mask ;) And thanks to your advice, I'm going to try and make some action figures to better model my animated characters after. Of course, when I animate the characters, I can take the Max program to the architecture lab and print out my figures...woo-hoo for 3D printers! <My travel plans are odd> Um...something wants me to be worried by that statement, so be safe! Don't be like me and drive all by yourself ;)

Okay, folks, that's all I can do tonight. Time to finally remedy this cold :)

Niamhgold
Saturday, December 15, 2001 07:15:50 PM
IP: 208.197.116.56

I'm finally going home tomorrow and I'm so excited! I wonder how much LotR will make its first day in the theatres?
SOROW
Saturday, December 15, 2001 06:59:03 PM
IP: 129.116.38.151

Nukes> no hon, I'm not aware of anyone making fun of you over IM. To be quite honest - I personally do not think of you outside of this room. I don't mean that in a hateful way or anything, but I don't know you well enough to give you much thought. yikes, I hope no one takes that the wrong way! *cringes* I'm trying to think of how to word this so it doesn't sound cold hearted or mean. O_o
I guess it would be the same if the shoes were reversed... you don't think of me, do you? *shakes head* I doubt it ;)
I have no fight with you nor do I intend to. _Anyone_ who wouldn't accept responsibility for their own actions would have received the same words from me. =)

Greg> I heard Osama's speech too and was sickened by it. This guy is evil to the core *nods* It might take some time, but I really believe that he will be brought to some kind of justice.... one that will not require a trial in the United States, if you know what I mean.

I met a Christmas angel today.
I went into a children's clothing store at the mall to see if they had any coats left for sale. I found one that I liked and was buying it when the manager overheard me telling the clerk why I was buying the coat (my brother's project) The manager jumped right in and ended up giving me a 75% discount!! I ended up buying the 4 remaining coats that Steve needed to complete his list :D Each coat cost me less than $20! I didn't ask for the discount or anything, this wonderful and kind hearted Christmas angel volunteered it. She brought tears to my eyes as I was writing out the check for the coats.
My brother had gone to Wal-Mart and was turned down any assistance and when he approached the manager at a Dillard's, she walked away from him. In the past, Wal-Mart has been very generous in helping with a discount on the coats, but for some reason the manager this year was a real Scrooge. As for Dillard's... I will never step foot in their doorway again. It won't collapse their earnings, but I do enough clothes shopping there to feel as if I have a legitimate boycott ;)
The children's store that was so kind is called, Children's Place. I know that this is where I will be buying the majority of Zach's clothes for the next several years. :)

To top off a very productive afternoon... I was able to fill up my car with gas that cost... *drum roll* 84.9 cents a gallon!!

ok, gotta' go wrap some presents :)
Jan
Saturday, December 15, 2001 06:51:36 PM
IP: 12.110.236.20

**DC DEATH**

[Mr. Disconnect awakens to find himself in an abattoir full of blood-spattered chain link and gothic statuary. He also finds that he's not all in one piece--his brain and eyes seem to be in a life support tank, his torso, head, and limbs each separate and connected by cables containing blood vessels and nerve relays. Perversely, he can feel the cold, dry air on his shattered skin, the raw tissue making it feel like frozen sandpaper on every nerve; he can smell the charnel scent of old blood and fragmented viscera wafting through the room; and he can hear the approaching clack...clack...clack of gargoyle talons on the hardwood floor. Hanging from the ceiling, he feels his stomach quivering in horrified anticipation; his arms, one in each corner, become tingly with goosebumps. He feels like he's going insane, and fears that he will if he has to bear much more of this disjointed sensory input. Wilek enters, drawing behind him his standard tray of toys and absently batting a low-hanging IV tube out of his path. When he sees DC's brain and eyes, Wilek's own eyes light up with manic glee; he strides over to the jar and looks his new project over, very pleased with how it turned out. He taps on the glass and taunts, "Well good morning. How are you feeling, hm? A touch groggy, I should think; that was one of the more complex surgeries my people have had to pull off. Now, I guess you know why you're here?" Since Wilek hadn't bothered to wire in DC's vocal cords, and they weren't attached to his head--which DC couldn't see, though he knew it was connected--DC couldn't talk; all he could manage was to move his jaw and mouth in a most ineffectual manner. Wilek continued, "That's right--my continuing problems with Earthlink. These days, I only connect successfully once every two or three times I attempt to get on-line. Bad move dude." Wilek grabs a hammer and breaks DC's left knee, lying on a table near the door; the dissociation of tactile with visual location makes DC quite ill. "For everything there is a price." Wilek drives an icepick through DC's right palm, hanging in a corner, then slashes a tendon in DC's left elbow. The sensory dissonance pushes DC over the edge; his abdomen heaves as if he wants to throw up everything he'd ever eaten; seeing said abdomen in the middle of the room yet feeling it as if he were still whole only makes things worse. Wilek percieves all this and chuckles. "Though I say so myself, I think this was a very good idea..."]

**END**

Imzy-boo> <<What does that even mean?>> 'Fluffers' are people who work in porn flick studios; their job is to get the male stars into, um, working condition. (Amazing the things you learn on Lexx.) I can't think of many jobs more degrading than that. I hope for their sake that the pay is REALLY good. >_< <<Fool! Never admit such things.>> Why not? Everyone's an idiot about something. The smart ones admit it. :) <<What does that have to do with a porno-sitcom?>> Exactly. <<the ONE guy in here who is single and ISN'T interested in having sex with Sorow is "sweetheart".>> Maybe that's why. Not too many girls like to be drooled over. <<11/11/01...last date with only ones and zeros.>> Ah. <> Could be; spatial and temporal distances are kind of fluid for me. Anyhow, MS has admitted that they fully expect to lose a billion $ on the X-Box before making a profit. Frighteningly enough, they can well afford it. O_o <<I'm sure SOME whores are clean.>> The ones who haven't gone on the job yet. ;) <<Can I have her first? I just need a few minutes...>> <hands you Britney and a hunting knife> Have fun. <<<<insanity is the highest virtue>>: No its not.>> Then what is? <<You make the counts seem like pansies.>> I'm honored. :) Still, I can't claim to have surpassed great Vlad in that respect... <<Not the kind of training we were talking about.>> You didn't specify it, so I appropriated it. >:) <<NO. We are not having any virgins ruling the planet. Period.>> And why not. How are virgins and non-virgins any different in terms of ability to rule? <<Depends on your definition of "violated".>> Anything done without mutual informed consent. <<A grain, yes. But a truckload?>> I've yet to reach a point of diminishing returns. <<Dude, you !@#$ sheep!? SICK!>> That depends on what you mean by sheep--I was referring to normal people. (That also depends on what you mean by !@#$. There are a LOT of four letter verbs.) <<Freud would beg to differ.>> Freud belonged in an asylum. <<Three words: People are DUMB.>> No matter how many times I encounter evidence of this, I always forget it. O_o <<Tornados don't suck.>> Um, yes they do. That's one way they destroy smallish buildings--they suck out a lot of the air around them, lowering the air pressure outside the building; if the windows are closed, the difference in air pressure between the outside and inside causes the building to explode. <<Ben Yosef. "Son of Joseph".>> Ah. Thankee. <<I'm sorry.>> Not half as sorry as I am. O_o <<Download it. Most are free.>> Ah. 'K. <<MicroSHAFT BOUGHT BUNGIE. And they were such a good mac game company.>> Geh. >:/ I hope the Japanese companies have the sense to stay away...<<DVD-RAM?>> Even if I could find one I couldn't afford it. <<Not anymore...welcome to X-box!>> The more I hear about the stupid thing, the less I like it. Did you know that you have to buy a peripheral in order to play DVDs on the thing. My PS2 can play them right out of the box. Granted, a remote makes things easier, but at least it's *optional*. Also, the X-Box's hard drive has to be periodically defragmented. This from A FRELLING CONSOLE. GAHHHH. <<apple.com/quicktime>> Ah. Thanks. <<With limits.>> How does one limit infinity? The only way I can think of is by subtracting from it, and infinity-any value you care to name (other than infinity)=infinity anyhow... <<tell that to Data.>> He didn't have to mate to make more of himself--look at Llal. <<<<American Mcgee's Alice?>>: Runs on VPC.>> Duly impressed. How 'bout RealMyst (if that doesn't test a system's capabilities, nothing does)? Or emulators such as ZSNES and WGENS? And what about viruses? MacOS itself apparently can't fall prey to them, but what about VPC? Oh, and...are there any Macs out there with a disc drive that uses a tray rather than a slot? Because I have several mini-CDs... <<Because its the world's biggest motivation to switch to Mac.>> More and more tempting...<<if it gets tacked onto the anti-terrorism bill that's moving through congress as we speak.>> But isn't it unconstitutional? <<Not once you update to the latest version.>> Haven't done that...<<Yes. but why would you want to?>> I'd underestimated VPC's abilities. What is its compatibility rate? <<It might change your outlook on some stuff.>> If I want to do that, I'll use logic and evidence to reason my way out of an old outlook and into a new one rather than trusting to some endorphin-induced epiphany. <<My friends and I are all mega-geeks>> Glad to hear it. <<as we started getting heavily involved with women, we had new perspectives to look at things from.>> Hadn't anticipated that. Examples? <<Mistletoe is the spawn of Satan!>> ...funny you should put it that way. <cackles insanely> <<South Park.>> Ah. Gotta watch that more often--especially after Butters' episode and the Christmas with Chuck Manson. (**SPOILER** He actually reformed in that ep! There's something...cool yet disturbing about that. **END SPOILER**) <<You don't know enough about it to redicule it!>> Just because I haven't done it? I've never gone skydiving, but I know more than enough about it to know that it isn't worth the risk. There's very little that's more useful than research. <<Whatever it is, tell me now so I can start stocking up on it.>> I'm thinking credit, with hard currency used mostly for little basic things. As to that currency, I'm thinking zeni/zenny/however it's spelled. <<Not necessarily. There are many types of sunglasses that are mirrored, you can't see in but I can see out. There could be a biological equivalent.>> Intriguing...it'd be very complex, but yeah...And hmm, I wonder if it wouldn't extend the range of vision somehow. Maybe what causes it to flouresce is infrared light, making it sort of a night-vision? <<Hey, it stops the cancer from spreading>> At the cost of the patient's life. Not a good idea. <<Not usually. They only really work through microsoft products.>> Ah good--I only ever recieve mail in Messenger, because I'd heard ghastly things about what can happen to Outlook. (Conversely, I only send in Outlook, because Messenger's sendmail client stinks like all get out.) <<iMac, then?>> Probably. Something about it reminds me of a Gamecube, or perhaps the city of Esthar. It's cute. ^_^ <<Quick! Don't think about gargs dropping giant poops in the forest!>> :P <<<<Ever seen one of the self cleaning ones?>>: I want!>> I think any Wal-Mart carries them. <<No, just realize that "bed linen" sounds like "bin laden".>> Hm. I can see how someone who doesn't speak English would confuse them. <<The way I see it, there's nothing brain-sapping about being paid to be naked.>> Of course there isn't. How can one sap what was never there? ;) <<You fool, this is exactly what I was talking about earlier, that you said reeks of urban myth. It's all part of the same software.>> Ah frell. O_o <<Your obsession with thinking that sexual desires are society-driving is horribly backwards.>> You say that like it's a bad thing. Sometimes you have to turn something inside out to understand how it works. <<Sex is a genetic desire. Its ingrained in our minds.>> The physical need for sexual release is, I will acknowledge, genetic (indeed, mechanical, at least in men). I've accepted that as a nonproblematic manufacturing flaw that I can correct some other time. But the stuff we pile on top of it (especially our obesession with everything having to do with it) is, from what I've seen, a matter of upbringing and psychology (more being better in terms of the size of various things, for example...there have been societies that have it entirely the other way around), and that stuff is what I'm rebelling against to show people how nonsensical it is to let it control them. <> Everything must be justified... <<Its more significant for you to justify NOT wanting it.>> ...including me. Still, this research is just controversial enough that posting it here would be an open invitation to start a flame war, and if there's anything I don't want, it's that. Can I do this over e-mail? <<Into what?>> You'll see. <<...and scantily clad females, of course. Who cares if it's below zero outside?>> They would, I should think. <<I'm HIV negative! Woohoo!>> Glad to hear it; I quite like you. Now join the side of the darkness of reason, and your HIV status will never change, one less thing to worry about. ;) <<The FBI today confirmed the existence of that really evil software I was babbling about earlier. Welcome to the end of privacy as we know it.>> FRELL FRELL FRELL! Hm. They can't use what they find without a warrant or something...right? Gods, please tell me Virtual PC has a really high compatibility rate and I will almost certainly make my next computer a Mac... <<why is the song "twelve days of x-mas". Did x-mas become 12 days at some point? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it celebrates the birth of Jesus, and even if Jesus IS the messiah, HOW COULD HE HAVE BEEN BORN FOR 12 DAYS!>> I doubt the song has much to do with the religious end of things...it has a very Victorian secular aspect to it. <<GeForce3>> Cool, they make those for Macs? <> Why not? He's a species of alien about which we know next to nothing. Any biological insight is welcome.

Fire Storm> <<Only if there is not a backdoor in the program for this already.>> It's Proxomitron. It isn't by any company; some guy somewhere makes it. <<Well, SURE, talk about situations like that! In all the broods laid by MY hierarchy, I have never seen that happen.>> Ah. Guess it's a last-ditch thing. Apparently such situations aren't as common as I thought. O_o (BTW, may I arrange an interview with you, perhaps over e-mail, as regards your species' biology and mentality? I sense unprecedentedly fascinating insights within you. Perhaps you could talk about yourself--how you came to be sentient, why you're so different from the average xeno, why you're gendered and they aren't?) <<DAMN IT! That is MY Borg-asar!>> Actually, it was Dr. Naughtius' before I hijacked it. <<Well, even the Underpants Gnomes can't figure that one out!>> Great mystery huh. <<Your saved file is on one of the games servers, so copying the save game is impossible.>> This can only be done in multiplayer? Frell. <<What usually happens is that you get the weapon and sell it on eBay. THEN you meet the character that purchased the weapon on the map in the game world and give it to them.>> Cool. I'll tell the Underpants Gnomes. Wait... Does that mean the seller doesn't get to keep a copy of the weapon? <<But Microsoft having something like that? They can't make ANYTHING secure!>> Not a deliberate security feature, just horrible inefficiency. <<Total control for a period no less than 250 years.>> Ah. Good. <writes it down this time> <<As for research, sure! I don't mind! Hell, having an outside team would be helpful!>> Cool. Hmm...I've heard rumours that Mars is not in fact a planet, but a very old and very advanced starship that has long since fallen into disrepair. Have you found anything to confirm or deny this? <<THAT would work. The problem is having the nanites NOT under the control of a central processing system.>> They don't have enough processing power for that, unless they take Matrix' route, and that is very dangerous. <<Ah, but with every post, a piece of the puzzle is revealed and your location becomes clearer and cleared.>> Does it then? Where do you think I am? Because I can assure you, if you look for me there, however thoroughly, you won't find me. (Although perhaps you'll find something I put there just to mislead you...) <<Ah, but how can you rule on things you do not even know of?>> I know a *lot* more about it than you seem to think--there's a lot left to learn, but I'm not ignorant enough to be incompetent. You underestimate the value of scientific objectivity. <> I'm fundamentally perverse and obsessed with twisted irony. If I see society obsessively engaging in something that runs directly counter to my goals and pressuring me to do the same, well, it's fair game for my ever so special brand of entertainment. Sacred cows make the best hamburger. (Hm. OK, look at that again. Wonder why I don't already have a Mac. Just lazy?) Besides which, the simple matter of sexual content isn't what I'm rebelling against (unless it's *real* graphic, which I consider a touch...immature); it's the forcefully reverent attitude most people take toward sex. (Your thing about being beaten, for example. I don't hold it against you, since I know it wasn't your fault--merely an artifact of societal conditioning--but it's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.) Trust me, human sexuality isn't all that warrants the full Grand Guignol gadfly treatment...sports fairly pounces to mind. <<OR that his parents beat him>> Again, that's bullschiesse. (If there's one misapprehension I intend to smother in its cradle, it's this one.) Had they even threatened that, I would have killed them and made it look like an accident. (Or maybe I wouldn't have had to--had they been at all abusive, I probably could have gotten away with doing it openly. At least, if the justice system has a brain in its head.) <<when he started to show any sexuality a year or so ago.>> When I was in my early twenties (still am in fact)? That *is* about the right age for such things. :) <<Not just scary... but wrong.>> By whose standard? Yours? Go back as far as you can and find out where, why, and from whom you developed that standard and *question it*--look at the big picture--before holding to it. (That's the problem with society today; no one bothers to examine anything. Whatever happened to the grand tradition of questioning authority? Did that pass on when its proponents *became* the authorities?) <<People like that are usually REALLY screwed up>> Was there ever a doubt in your mind? HEEEEHEHEHEHHEE (Hm. When did insanity lose its appeal in here? I thought that was what this place was founded on. What changed while I was gone? And did it change because of my absence? Is this my mistake...? o_o' Traveler? We need a large-scale sanity removal and insanity interjection, STAT. I'll do what I can from this end. <releases a horde of five-headed opera-singing kumquats with sewing machines for feet into the CR>) <<Look at 'The Cell'>> One of my favorite movies. I gotta get me one o' them music boxes. Not in the habit of doing such things to women though. Not unless they're thieves or something, and most women are too smart to be thieves anyway.

DPH> <<Hmm. That means I would be accountable to myself if I didn't need others for supplies.>> Cool, innit? <<You mean in around ten years, there's going to be strike of the voice actors guild?>> If the vox tech is adopted to such a degree that it starts to effect voice actor employment--which it might not, since for all its worship of technology, Hollywood is a touch old-fashioned when it comes to the actual process of making movies. <<As guardian of the holographic mistletoe, I am pleased to announce that it has not mutated yet.>> [For not enough time for it to register to the conscious mind, the mistletoe becomes a Lovecraftian monstrosity with hundreds of eyes, claws, mouths, and eyeless sharp toothed infant heads, causing the mistletoe to suddenly look very disturbing without anyone quite realizing why.] <ehehehe>

Spacebabie> <> I love those. ^_^ <<Biopsy report. My dad is now 100 percent Cancer free!!!>> Great! ^_^ <> She was a reference to that very myth. :)

Nukes> <<you get my vote for longest post ever, at least for as long as ive been here.>> Heh, too bad you haven't been here longer; Traveler's posts used to blow my current ones out of the water. :)

Aaron> <<It's a webcomic. www.pvponline.com>> Ah. <<It's been so long, I no longer remember who we were talking about>> I was speaking just in general. <<: You could say that. It involves demon-summoning, soul-destroying weapons, and the price they carry.>> Sounds like my kinda story.

SJ> <<TWO posts in one week? Two posts in one DAY??? You’re spoiling us. :) How I wish that would become a trend with you. ;)>> I'm tryin... <<Welcome to the scarred side of the coin, my friend.>> You have a way with words. I shall have to make you my speechwriter.

Gods I wish I could get to sleep. The warehouse across the street is singing my name again. I TOLD the stupid thing I'd feed it TOMORROW...

Niamhgold> <<Is it time, boys, to unleash Nicolai? ;)>> He's sequestered himself in his research lab--has problems with cloned impostors attacking his friends, so he figured that if everyone knew where the real him was, no one would hesitate to destroy attacking impostors. Although he's thinking of joining us via isometric projection sometime before Christmas. (He's formulated a quite disturbing avatar...)

GXB> <<Sorry but any villain that needs to ask permission to commit villainy is not a villain at all.>> He does? O_o <<I'm already in the process of getting ahold of him/her/it.>> Cool. :) <<Well, I jst got back from work and I watched the Osama bin Laden tape on CNN. Out of everything I have ever watched in my life, I have not seen anything that made me reel over in disgust as this did. This man isn't human. Seeing this is all the proof one would need of that. Him sitting there talking about it with his fundi terrorist friends and laughing about it. I did not think I could despise this man more, well when you're dealing with the lowest form of scum on this planet, they'll always find a way to disgust you even more.>> Yow. Maybe I should watch it, just to feed my creativity as regards his disposition... <<I'm having trouble coming up with something fitting enough to do to him.>> Study the more repulsive permutations of Islam (I intend to do so when I find a source) and think up ways to creatively blaspheme them. >:) (The bit about 72 virgins for example. Perhaps I can induce a telepathic harrowing in which Osama dies and goes to his heaven to greet his 72 virgins...to find that they're all bloated weeks-old zombies that are nymphomanic and enjoy the S half of S&M. Muhahahaha.)

Gside> <<You really should post more often. Not only would it be easier to respond to, it would lighten the mood.>> I try...<<Nah, I propose that sex and vilence can exist in parallel in the same mind.>> Not without eroding each other, or worse, miscegenating. It takes a very strong intellect to keep these from happening. <<The pigs she breeds fight in the sumo style.>> Breeder of sumo pigs, then. <blink> Why is she breeding sumo pigs? <<Doesn't War feel left out?>> War doesn't give a flip. <<I'm assuming we're talking about Ganondorf in Smash Meele. I don't remember, and if I did, I probably would have linked. It's out now, so faqs and screeenshots should be easy to come by.>> Cool. :) Hm...Have you played it by now? Specifically the Triforce Gathering event? How hard is that to beat? It just might be the first task I perform... <> Some frelling twisted hentai manga. Hm...what is the name of the filthiest hentai manga or anime you know of? In nomine luxem, quo destructus! [A gout of white fire, similar to the Angel Of Death from Prince Of Egypt, issues forth from Wilek's hands, nests for a moment in Gside's brain as if looking for something, then flies off purposefully in some direction or other.] Muha. <> <ideas forming...> <> <socratic mode> Why? <<Well, he is holding himself most of the time.>> I should think that wouldn't be enough; I thought they took a dim view of bare human butts. Or has the ESRB lightened its standards? <<That's all right, I have other ways of dealing with them.>> You've an arsenal I wasn't aware of? You'll have to give me the tour. ;) <<But are they performed by famous dead people?>> No--my own compositions, and I hope never to be famous or dead. <<Sorry, Zeus likes to get frisky.>> And that frellnik was king? Feh. <<Nope, it's a euphamism for small bit of female anatomy with a large concentration of nerves.>> You just described every localized sensory organ in the body, as well as the central nervous system. <<It's an anime, also known as Furi Kuri.>> Ah...then what does FLCL stand for? <> He does? Yet more reason to read that...<<Have you heard the one about the cannibal who dumped his girlfriend?>> I'd like to. >:) <<Couldn't you just up the broadcast range>> Of the controller, yes. However, the nanites need to broadcast as well, so the controller can see through their sensory organelles, and their range can't be boosted very far. <<You have not seen what I have seen.>> For which I am truly thankful. <<And you enjoy it, don't you?>> On some level. I feel a bit like G'Kar did after finding out what happened to his diary. O_o <<<<Chatterbox? (Don't ask>>: Oh, but I will. what is it?>> Um. Not sure I can talk about it here; check out http://www.coldfusionvideo.com/c/chatterbox.html (just linking to this probably doesn't violate CR standards, but discussing it here might...although if I'm wrong on either count, I apologize to the administration O_o). <<What, Knaw?>> Nope. The Gnawed are a population of Malkavian vampires that came through...wrong. They're capable of doing very little other than feeding and screaming. (Who's Knaw? He sounds cool.) <> You haven't met the Ratkin. Geh...<<As far as I can tell, chan is just a title of endearment, used more frequently than anything similar here.>> Kind of what I was trying to convey. :) <<You've studied Hidden Weapons?>> Nope. Is it out on DVD? <<Nope, just know that there is a stereotype of Poles being stupid.>> When did that start, 1940s Germany? <<And in celebration of Wilek's quarterly posting>> I'm honored. :) (Quarterly? Gods I have to get in here more often. O_o) <<The assumption was that there wasn't. Perhaps an unfortunate one detained by Wilek.>> How is she unfortunate if she isn't being (there's no delicate way to put this) raped? Not being raped sounds pretty frelling fortunate to me. <<Maybe he went to Catholic school.>> Thank Heaven, no--my attitudes are mine, not some parent's or teacher's. <<True, but it introduces the concept more slowly and with less likely of a violent reaction.>> Speed of introduction does not enter into it. <<No, a pedophile and child pornographer. And he hated boys.>> Check out http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_185.html. Not sure what to make of this.

Robby> <<They started showing it to us in school on e and then apparently discovered as it played it had foul language>> It does? O_o

Silvadel> <<Oh and an idea for the Management... There are a number of colors that REALLY do not work... It would probably help readability if most of the dark colors were removed...>> Heh...that occurred to me the first time I saw the dark blue text color on my Dreamcast. O_o

Et finalement: The Christmas season approacheth. Favorite Christmas movies? :) Mine are Scrooged, Gremlins, and The Nightmare Before Christmas. ^_^

And I'm off for now. Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night! [Wilek flies off in a clockwork sleigh pulled by nine flying shoggoths, dropping off a present for each member of the CR on his way. Unseen in the confusion, a nightgaunt stalks under the mistletoe and waits.]
Wilek "A Leak In My Brain" Nereus
Saturday, December 15, 2001 06:33:25 PM
IP: 168.143.112.8

I just got back from seeing "Vanilla Sky." Go see this movie. It's amazing. It might help if you do a lot of drugs before hand...

DPH - <<does that cover them 'borrowing' Babylon 4 to help in the last Shadow War?>> I don't think anyone in EarthGov actually knows the truth about B4. At least, no one who matters. I'm pretty sure the only people who know the entire truth are those who were involved in sending it to the past, and probably Draal. <<(JL)unless the season is longer than 13 episodes>> The season is 26 episodes. Bruce Timm posted a complete episode list a few weeks ago, and all the episodes are two parters, except for the premiere and the finale, which are three parters. So, it's like having 13 hour long episodes, considering the way the series is structered.

Speaking of JL, I find it odd that 2 characters have been absent from at least every episode, not including the opener. I guess it's hard to fit seven main characters into a show like that, and those that are absent really didn't have anything to contribute to the show...

And now, I need to go work on Timedancer. It feels good to be able to do that now that I'm done with finals...
Alan Coleman Waltrip - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa/Midland, Texas
Saturday, December 15, 2001 06:00:44 PM
IP: 24.116.93.43

Josh > What kind of a response is "yawn"? Shall we interpret that to mean you talk trash about someone, making comments about things you know nothing about, but when they call you on it, you just don't care? My, this seems oddly familiar.

Christine > Somehow I didn't expect the top candidate for that position to either accept or decline the nomination gracefully. Good luck in the search, though.
Seen in the fanfic archive > It looks like the story many of us have been dreading has arrived... someone has posted a 9/11 fanfic and put the entire cast in the middle of the action. Think I'll pass on reading that one, thank you.

:: lurks off to crunch numbers and finish tax forms ::
Patrick Toman
Saturday, December 15, 2001 05:49:44 PM
IP: 66.72.207.117

DPH: <Are you sure someone else isn't more qualified to answer that question?>
No idea. But you are the one that keeps throwing the term "Conventional Weapons"
<You know what that means>
Yep. Gotta string more electric shock tiles on the roof.

Christine: Against company policy (Like even being on the internet isn't against policy!), I downloaded and read your new story last night. I like it! A little dark, but nice! I like the stories that you write that are a little dark!

Gside: <Britney Spears wears boxers? Wouldn't they bunch up under those tight pants?>
Just at night. Most of the time she dosn't wear any underware at all.

Terrky: 
Hey, I had the choice between an office Christmas party and getting my teeth drilled.
Guess which one I picked!

Imzadi: <That would require a LOT of boats>
True. But the people that said that weren't exactly that bright.
<That's why we have computers at the house...and in the bathroom>
LM is against me putting a lan connection in the bathroom. And I have yet to go wireless.
<Truly the greatest christmas special ever>
Oh yeah. Few movies say Christmas like that!
"Merry Christmas!"
"Shut the f!@#$ up!"
<Scary, I know>
Not just scary... but wrong. People like that are usually REALLY screwed up. Look at 'The Cell'
<People who collect/keep undies...sick>
Some people collect dead animals and dead insects. How are underpants any different?
<But who makes sure they show up?>
I have no idea. Half down, half on delivery?

It's just the way I feel. How can a priest talk about the temptation of the flesh if he has never tasted it?
<See "Young Einstein".>
It's been quite some time since I saw that movie. Wouldn't that beer have been quite radioactive?
<Chika bow bow>
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too! Until I just realized that my math was off. MARCH 14-ish

Let's see...
1pm: Poop
2pm: poop
3pm; poop
4pm: Tea
5pm: Poop
6pm: Discuss eastern philosophy with world leaders
7pm: poop ;)
Fire Storm
Saturday, December 15, 2001 05:24:26 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Jen: ::yawn::
Josh
Saturday, December 15, 2001 05:08:59 PM
IP: 64.161.26.119

Terrky > got the wrong mom there ... it's Crzy who has 12-year-old daughters. Mine's only seven ; )

Avalon Mists > well, it's official now -- those who had first dibs have both declined, so the post of editor is now available to other interested parties. Those who'd like to apply please e-mail me if I haven't heard from you already.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, December 15, 2001 04:51:25 PM
IP: 64.24.214.179

Josh - <<How about you define it. Then I'll decide if it counts.>> You're the one that seems to know so much about this relationship... One day you claim that I am boffing him... the next you claim that we don't hang out frequently... You are the "National Enquirer" type expert here... Let me hear what you think! >:( Come on, big boy... enquiring minds want to know. :P :P :P

Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson - [::ANNOYED::]
Saturday, December 15, 2001 03:39:17 PM
IP: 63.28.181.56

Damn, I was having problem with MSDOS prompt yesterday and ran another virus scan on my computer and discovered there still are no computer viruses on this PC. The damn problem was typing the commands because MSDOS prompt acted like somethign was wrong with my keyboard. Why was I bothering with that? Simple, I wanted to modify my perl program before uploading it to my website.

**BABYLON 5 Spoilers**
It might ironic that the member of thw warrior class was quoting the rules of Valen about who should control the Rangers when we know Valen was Sinclair. It was also funny to the Security Chief count the seconds it took to go between each floor.

Dumb question: Since Sheridan got amnesty for his crew for their actions when they broke away from Earth, does that cover them 'borrowing' Babylon 4 to help in the last Shadow War?
**end Babylon 5 Spoilers**

Imzadi - <<I'm not that interested in material stuff>: Bull puckey.> Material things aren't the things I want the most.

Jesus Christ was born in 3/4 BC. Biblical historians can confirm that fact.

Interestingly enough, I found a grammer book that I used in college. 1994 edition.

I have a new problem at home. My cats are walking around on the roof of my house. You know what that means: it's time to do some more tree trimming.

I know this is being repetive, but I'll be more specific to what I consider conventional weapons to be: Anyways, I am leaning towards 4 types of weapons:
conventional, biological, nuclear, and other. Conventional weapons are weapons that are not biological or nuclear and are known to exist in real life and/or could easily be made using current technology. A gun that shoots knives falls in this category, but not a laser rifle. Missiles and standard projectile weapons clearly fall in this category. Biological weapons and nuclear weapons are self-explanatory categories in my mind. Other is anything that does not fall in the other 3 categories. This is definitely where laser rifles fall in my mind. I'm not sure where my nanite weaponary falls in these categories except outside of conventional.

**JL Spoilers**
Hmm. Unless I'm mistaken, we've already seen half the season, unless the season is longer than 13 episodes. I'm starting to look for things called continuity. The new story was decent, but a few things do bother me: Didn't Superman make his home away from home somewhere around the North Pole? I am looking forward to either Superman or the Green Lantern being absent to see how well things go.
**END JL SPOILERS**
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, December 15, 2001 02:36:21 PM
IP: 204.94.193.69

jan - yeah, i know alredy that you guys make fun of me on IM and such (if thats what your talking about). in fact, i find it hilarious, that you cant stop thinking about me. lol.

if its not that, tell me. dont leave me hanging.
NukesGoBoom
Saturday, December 15, 2001 11:40:35 AM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Lain> <<There are just certain times when it's not necessary or appreciated to state them.>> practice what you preach. And as your boyfriend said to me, what I said to Nukes applies... As far as I'm concerned, the current discussion has jack to do with you.
My point still stands - the group mentality excuse is no excuse. Everyone is responsible for their own behavior.

Nukes> *shakes head sadly* ... if you only knew....

well, I'm off to go shopping in Joplin. I'm helping my brother buy coats for children this year. It breaks our heart to see these small children arriving at school when it's 25 degrees out and the wind blowing and all they are wearing is a t-shirt. He normally buys 4-6 coats but this year the list had 12 children listed. At an average of $40 per coat, that adds up quickly. My brother has been doing this for the past 18 years and has always done it without recognition and always out of his own pocket - but since the number has doubled, I'm going to help out too.
(he also sticks a bag of candy or gum in the pocket of each coat so that the child finds a "goodie")
I'm going to buy a couple of coats and then I'm going to hit up some of my more "rich" friends to assist. ;)

*runs out to go shopping*

Jan
Saturday, December 15, 2001 10:39:48 AM
IP: 12.110.237.63

josh- yes, the GeForce3 is a good choice. i have one now and it OWNS.

lain- nice ball of fire. trouble cooling off? 8)
NukesGoBoom
Saturday, December 15, 2001 08:53:23 AM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Well, it is possible that the upcoming "Fellowship of the Ring" movie really is a very good one, and that that's why it's gotten all the favorable reviews. I know that I'm definitely looking forward to it.

And, based on what I've read in the "behind-the-scenes" writings on it, the production team have shown a lot of dedication to making it high-quality. One little tidbit: for the Shire scenes, they planted flowers and vegetables of the sort that hobbits would grow on the locations, a year before the filming began, so that they would root themselves into the landscape and make it look as if hobbits had been living there and cultivating the place for a long time.

Just 4 days to go until the movie premieres. I certainly hope to see it on the premiere day.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, December 15, 2001 07:02:21 AM
IP: 63.183.39.166

Lynati>> "and if im hanging on to your shade, i guess im way beyond the pale.."

Jan>> <<The old "he did it too" excuse hasn't been acceptable since you were 5.>> Jan, You are most entitled to your opinions and feelings as anyone else is. There are just certain times when it's not necessary or appreciated to state them.
lain "theres noone here, dear" iwakura
the Great White North
Saturday, December 15, 2001 03:32:50 AM
IP: 64.228.197.247

Woke up nice and late today, since my final wasn't till 5PM. After studying for a bit, it was off across campus to the Hearst Gym for my Math 54 (Linear Algebra and Differential Equations) final.

Oh my god, the linear algebra/diffEQ final was SOOOOO easy. It was exactly like the practice exam. No wonder the bastard prof wouldn't give out solutions. Finished in just over 2 hours.

What really sucks is that I have another final just 12 hours later. Not much time to study and sleep. Bummer. But study I did...if by study you mean cram all the information into my TI-83. Where cheat sheets fail, calculators succeed!

And, in other news, my final grade in fluids was an A-...guess I didn't do so hot on the final if that was my last grade...75% A and 25% final grade means that I got a B- on the final...that's no good. But oh well, I passed with flying colors. Now lets just nope that grade can make up for my failing dynamics grade that I'll get on monday.

**My Christmas List**

Cinema Display
GeForce3
AppleCare
more hard drive space (no, 80 isn't cutting it)
a ticket to gathering
a controlling share of Microsoft
hot chicks

**end Christmas List**

Of course, then I remember that I'm Jewish and I've already gotten my presents.

anyway...replies.

Spacebabie: <<part of my medication is stuck in mythrought and every time I swallow I taste it>>: I'm not gonna make any jokes about this. <>: See Spacebabie. See Spacebabie bounce. Bounce spacebabie bounce. <<South Park was F---ing hilarious>>; Really? I thought it was dumb. That's what they get for taking out the four main characters. <<It won’t be long til they are at that age where they think they know everything and you know nothing>>: They're probably there already. <<Congrats on being clean>>: Thank you.

DPH: <<I'm not that interested in material stuff>>: Bull puckey.

Christine: You are not alone, I saw Miracle on 34th Street. <<some real pros>>: Geez! I hope I never meet a woman like that.

Robby: <<Also sold back all my textbooks from the last three semesters. Got 60 bucks>>: For $60, I'll keep my textbooks, thanks. Fond memories of those books, especially when I get to lord them over other people. <<Next time I have to say this, I am banning, because after doing this admin thing for 3 years and no one taking me seriously anymore, I'm sick of it>>: Um... <<Xenogears is the greatest game ever made, and is in fact better than the works of Shakespeare>>: Thats not saying much.

Rodlox: <<NOBODY KNOWS WHEN he was born!! [in 4 BC as it is]>>: I thought it was 4AD.

Yooper: Ah, thank you.

Fire Storm: <<thought that the last flooding of the great lakes was due to the number of freighters>>: That would require a LOT of boats. <<there goes me downloading it at work!>>: That's why we have computers at the house...and in the bathroom... ;-) <<see the movie "The Ref">>: Truly the greatest christmas special ever. <<he almost has a violent aversion to sexual content>>: Scary, I know. <<sell them on eBay!>>: Yes! <<Britney Spears underpants>>: People who collect/keep undies...sick. <>: But who makes sure they show up? <<Swear AT windows, yes>>: Ah. <<Only a sinner can be a saint>>: I fail to see how/why that's true. <<different fines depending on the type and size of nukes>>: See "Young Einstein". <<Valentines Day>>: Chika bow bow.. <<hang up and try your search again later>>: LOL!

Sapphire: NEVER.

Sevarius Jr: <<This just in: Dentists are sadists>>: No duh. How long did it take you to figure that out?

Gside: <<write an algorithm that outputs whether there are two numbers that sum to a cube, and do it with a time complexity of O(n^(4/3)*log(n))>>: Write the algorithm in that time, or write the algorithm so that its O(n) is that? heh. In any case, no thanks. <<a pedophile and child pornographer. And he hated boys>>: Twisted. <<You're gay>>: You wish. <<That leaves us with about four to five regulars, most of whom aren't that regular. But they probably do get enough bran>>: I really have no wish to know about FS's pooping schedule. <<Litterally?>>: That would be a neat trick now wouldn't it? <<if the profs do somehting wrong, we can prove them wrong. It's rather hard to do that conclusively to a literature prof>>: Obviously you've never taken a lit class ;-) <<Britney Spears wears boxers? Wouldn't they bunch up under those tight pants?>>: But she needs the drafts. They feel good.

Hmmm...better get to sleep before I have to wake up...in 8 hours.

Being a Linux user is sort of like living in a house inhabited by a large family of carpenters and architects. Every morning when you wake up, the house is a little different. Maybe there is a new turret, or some walls have moved. Or perhaps someone has temporarily removed the floor under your bed.
- Unix for Dummies, 2nd Edition

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, December 15, 2001 02:23:32 AM
IP: 64.170.153.208

blah x11!

not exactly a bad day, but really not good.

on the plus side, i get to skip two finals for perfect attendence. but my grades still suck, and i've got 2 way over due projects that i need to get done.

my boss was in a really really bad mood today. but she has a right to be. somebody has been stealing lots of money from her. she fired someone today, and yelled alot, but then cooled down some. luckily, i'm on the "good" list.

my friend is wierd. i made a new sn, Rock Star x11. he's like, "BAH, i'd out shred you, and out play you" that pisses me off. i aint been playihg a year, and i can almost play in two keys, i can sing, and i've even written my own songs. no music to em yet, but those are soon to come. BLAH

-={ a few replies }=-

Josh >><>: This single phrase proves otherwise.

lol, like i said, i get that alot. i can write very WELL. look at it this way, i write the way i talk. dielect wise; if it's a narritive, i try to use the best grammer i can. in this case, posting here, it's not narritive, it's dielect. i mean, come on! i come from Kansas! everybody talks that way here! i live in HickVille!

Nukes: <<you know, im REALLY glad you get SUCH a good laugh out of other people>>

i try not to let things get to me. i can't recall too many times a person has completely pissed me off. if ever, it's useually one or two people i really can't stand. other than that, i just try to get along with everyone, and try to be the peacekeeper in some situations. but i can be stupid too. sometimes if i get irritated, i snap at people about stupid stuff, and sometimes at the wrong person. so, i'm no super peace-keeping guy. it's just hard to really piss me off. (i take the "i'm rubber, your glue" thing to the extreme)

although, really, the only thing you can do to really get to me is insult my taste in music (that is flatly being mean, just because you know it will piss me off) and/or insulting my creativity. i try to take constructive critisism well (excuse the crappy spelling, not my strong point) as long as it's CONSTRUCTIVE, and not bashing. thats why i like this quote so much:

"...And don't you put me down, please, for creating beyond your mind"- robert lamm of chicago.

hmm... that was a long response. sorry to ramble.

anyway

Christine: <>

lmao, *trys to think of a witty comment* can't really think of one as of now. i guess nothing says "i love you" more than dental appointments. ;)

*sigh* thats all i'm gonna do tonight. i'm going to try to be a little more active in the CR (meaning more interactive with people, replies, so on)

see yall

-={Terrky the Efficient Rock Star}=-

Terrky (the Efficient Rock Star) - [terry_kath_2ooo@yahoo.com]
Kansas
Saturday, December 15, 2001 02:23:18 AM
IP: 64.197.199.62

So, given a list of n integers between 1 and n, write an algorithm that outputs whether there are two numbers that sum to a cube, and do it with a time complexity of O(n^(4/3)*log(n)).

Lynati> <<Lewis Carol a pederast>>: No, a pedophile and child pornographer. And he hated boys.

Imzadi> <<Its not the first implication that I'm gay, and it won't be the last>>: Not with me around... You're gay. Wait, I usually just imply it. Eh.
<<Did x-mas become 12 days at some point?>>: Time lag for the wise men to get there. Then we get Little Christmas.
<<Maybe, just MAYBE, we should have an admin who isn't college-age>>: That leaves us with about four to five regulars, most of whom aren't that regular. But they probably do get enough bran.
<<I'll have to hang elsewhere>>: Litterally?
<<Tempting, but no thanks>>: Shucks.
<>: Maybe because if the profs do somehting wrong, we can prove them wrong. It's rather hard to do that conclusively to a literature prof.

Christine> <<the fact that the man brings in enough money to afford a house, a Porsche, and a cabin on the lake as a GAME DESIGNER on the side ... puh-leeze>>: Ever hear of John Romero chick (my roomies read through the PA archive last night)?

Nukes> <<k, it sucks w/e>>: You don't have to go that far, just too much discussion of it bring memories of an old annoying poster who seemed fixated on it.

Fire Storm> <<Why yes, these ARE Britney Spears underpants!>>: Britney Spears wears boxers? Wouldn't they bunch up under those tight pants?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:42:53 AM
IP: 165.230.240.115

Me again, posted too soon!

Stephen > saw your message, what's up? Good news?

Robby > they banned A Christmas Story for foul language? But ... that doesn't ... oh, fudge ... ; )

Fire Storm > yup, it is true. As I've heard from some interested parties already, I will have to figure out some way to decide. Will have to think about that a while.

Christine
Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47:25 PM
IP: 64.24.187.110

Coyote > you go to SA? Can I get you to sponsor Tim? I'm afraid I'm an enabler ... bought him Sims Hot Date for Xmas ... he needs help! ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, December 14, 2001 11:43:12 PM
IP: 64.24.187.110

I know the perfect way to jinx Fellowship of the Ring... All I have to do is to go see it in the movie theater... That always does the trick...

Oh and an idea for the Management... There are a number of colors that REALLY do not work... It would probably help readability if most of the dark colors were removed... At least those that are not legible when used. A lot of people might try choosing one and then -- oops.
silvadel
Friday, December 14, 2001 11:18:47 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

**Residents of the CR start to run for bomb shelters upon seeing DPH enter at unscheduled time.
Computer, you know the drill by now, right?

"Targetting Sapphire and preparing to launch all available conventional weapons. Sapphire just disappeared from the radar," replies the computer.

Damn. Somebody went out of his/her own way to protect Sapphire. Oh well.**

This year, winter does not start until December 21.

Fire Storm - <In your mind, does space based plasma, PBW and laser weaponry count as conventional weapons?> Are you sure someone else isn't more qualified to answer that question? Anyways, I am leaning towards 4 types of weapons: conventional, biological, nuclear, and other. Conventional weapons are weapons that are not biological or nuclear and are known to exist in real life and/or could easily be made using current technology. A gun that shoots knives falls in this category, but not a laser rifle. Biological weapons and nuclear weapons are self explanatory. Other is anything that does not fall in the other 3 categories. I'm not sure where my nanite weaponary falls in these categories except outside of conventional. Don't try to trip me on specific weapons.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, December 14, 2001 09:37:51 PM
IP: 204.94.193.13

This just in: Dentists are sadists. First chance they get, they'll be on you with their sharp little tools.

South Park was funny, but also utterly insane and borderline pornographic. Which is why I laughed my ass off, I suppose.

LOTR essentially has no negative reviews. By anyone. And some who have seen it are already calling it one of the best films EVER made. Maybe it's all insidious hype, but I've bought into it, so I'll be there bright and early on the 19th. Let's hope I don't have to deal with scores of Tolkien geeks in order to get a ticket.

And finally:

<<PS - SJ: the hate feels SO GOOD! Is this what it's like to be you? >>

Welcome to the scarred side of the coin, my friend.

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Friday, December 14, 2001 09:19:17 PM
IP: 207.172.11.148

Sapphire:<When will the next TGS story will come out?>
We're sorry.
The new episode of TGS is not available at this time.
Please, hang up and try your search again later.

Like in 2 months. Give or take a year.
The staff is currently working on the stories. But they ARE human, contrary to popular belief.
They got work, school and family.
And when they have a new story, it WILL be announced in here and on the Current Episode page.
Also, when there is a set date, they will say.
But there is no set date, at least not yet.
Fire Storm
Friday, December 14, 2001 09:06:56 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

When will the next TGS story will come out?
Sapphire - [saggersd@hotmail.com]
Whitehorse, YT, Canada
Friday, December 14, 2001 08:00:35 PM
IP: 199.247.245.1

Christine - if you see this, get in touch with me ASAP! Muy Importanto! Like, at once!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL
Friday, December 14, 2001 06:54:23 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

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Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL
Friday, December 14, 2001 06:53:27 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

Aaron: 
Really? Hmm... It has been a few years since I saw it.
<Sure we are. All those probes we lose around it are crashing and heating up the atmosphere>
Oh good! I thought it was just me that saw that!
It's like the people around here that thought that the last flooding of the great lakes was due to the number of freighters.
"When I get into a bathtub, the water level rises, so..."

DPH: <conventional weapons>
In your mind, does space based plasma, PBW and laser weaponry count as conventional weapons?

Christine: <it is looking quite likely that I will be stepping down.>
NO! Say it isn't so! And PLEASE make sure that they are competent to do it if you do!
<Mature readers only, please, due to violence and sexual content.>
Well, there goes me downloading it at work!
So i will download it and read it here tomorrow!
<Query: am I the only one who has never seen It's A Wonderful Life _or_ Miracle on 34th Street?>
See the movie "The Ref"

Imzadi: <Yes, very good. Now join me in telling hippies all over the world to go !@#$ themselves>
Ok! HEY HIPPIES! Go... oh, wait! You already are! Sorry, carry on! ;)

I hated that. I did that for Fire Storm because it kept wanting to write it as Firestorm.
<If not, maybe he should have>
I just mention it because he almost has a violent aversion to sexual content.

I know! I mean, can't they tell that they can sell them on eBay! ;)
"Why yes, these ARE Britney Spears underpants!"

I know, but oddly enough, it seems to work. I think they meet in a violence-prohibited area.
<Makes me wonder about the people who swear by windows>
At least I don't swear by Windows. Swear AT windows, yes, but not by!
<Good point>
Only a sinner can be a saint.
<Again..."its there".>
True. They are there. And we have weapons. It was bound to happen some day.
<Curses! There go my christmas plans!>
I wonder if they have different fines depending on the type and size of the nukes.

Lynati: <yes, I do write these in Word, usually>
As I had thought!

Crzy Demona: <Today is the Twins birthday!>
Valentines Day? ;)

Coyote: <Now off to my Sims Addicts Anonymous meeting ... ;)>
"Hello, I am Bob, and I am a Sims-aholic!"
"Dalla bala ba!"
You know you are a Sims addict when you can answer this:
What kind of response is it when your Sim says that "Scrunchin"?

Gside: <Maybe he went to Catholic school>
That would be my thought. OR that his parents beat him when he started to show any sexuality a year or so ago.
Fire Storm
Friday, December 14, 2001 06:25:11 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

k, it sucks w/e.
NukesGoBoom
Friday, December 14, 2001 06:19:15 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Nukes> That was a joke from Robby. Please please please don't get into how wonderful Xenogears was unless you want rocks thrown at your head. No one's saying it wasn't good just...oye..nevermind. ;)
Oracle
Friday, December 14, 2001 05:57:28 PM
IP: 24.167.240.110

robby- yes, xenogears was a GREAT game for its time. also a very long one.
NukesGoBoom
Friday, December 14, 2001 05:49:48 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Josh>><<12 days of Christmas>> If I recall correctly, 12 days is the length of the official Christmas season. The church year is divided into different seasons. The first is Advent (Which we're in now), which is 4 weeks long. The next is Christmas, which is 12 days, then Epiphany.
Yooper - [jwprusi@up.net]
Friday, December 14, 2001 05:49:11 PM
IP: 141.219.84.191

I would like to know if anyone has a pic to Hunters Moon Part Three
Jenny
Friday, December 14, 2001 05:26:13 PM
IP: 205.188.200.43

Imzadi: <HOW COULD HE HAVE BEEN BORN FOR 12 DAYS!> Long, difficult labor pains.

OR....like one famous character from a famous Gargoyle fanfiction author & illustrator, perhaps he hatched on a different day from the egg being laid.

OR...most likely - NOBODY KNOWS WHEN he was born!! [in 4 BC as it is].

Rodlox
Friday, December 14, 2001 04:51:57 PM
IP: 24.4.252.27

Brooklyn> Clicky on my name for Agamemnon's "Ill Met By Moonlight" picture collection. :)
Ravyn
Friday, December 14, 2001 04:07:37 PM
IP: 150.135.180.226

Hi I was wondering if anybody had pics from the episode "Ill Met by Moonlight"?

Thanks if you can help

Brooklyn

Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Friday, December 14, 2001 02:13:26 PM
IP: 4.41.243.40

Oh yeah, one more thing...

SJ- Xenogears is the greatest game ever made, and is in fact better than the works of Shakespeare.
Robby
Friday, December 14, 2001 02:04:14 PM
IP: 172.132.70.143

Took my last final today. Think I did pretty good. Also sold back all my textbooks from the last three semesters. Got 60 bucks, (Which is immediatley going to go into Christmas shopping...) which is okay I guess, except one of the books on its own cost 80... Ah well.

Flame war- Folks, I haven't done anything about this sooner because I've been swamped, because no one takes me seriously anyway, and I'm all in all not in a great mood this holiday season for as multitude of reasons, and I barely have time or energy to read the room anyway, so if I have to warn you guys officially to stop flaming in a post just for the sake of telling you to stop, screw my past three strikes rules policy, I start banning people. I know how to do it, and its obvious no one takes it as a real threat anymore, so this time I'll do it just to prove the point, no matter who started it or how minor the involvement. Stop the flamewar now, resolve it in e-mail or IM, whatever, just take it out of here. Someone's in the wrong, someone's in the right. Thats the opinion of all sides, and all sides are wrong. I don't care who called who what, when they called them that, where they said it or why, just leave it out of the room. Anyone flaming in here is wrong, even if they're just defending themselves. Next time I have to say this, I am banning, because after doing this admin thing for 3 years and no one taking me seriously anymore, I'm sick of it. Okay? Okay.

Christine- I haven't ever watched Its a Wonderful Life, more than the first 10 minutes of A Christmas story, (They started showing it to us in school on e and then apparently discovered as it played it had foul language) and I've never seen past the first half Miracle on 34th Street, we've started watching that like 3 different times in my years at school and never once finished it. We always come up short on Tubby the Tuba too...
Robby
Friday, December 14, 2001 02:02:32 PM
IP: 172.132.70.143

Spacebabie><<never mind……what you said to Jannie was uncalled for...>> Um, I think you mean what I said to Lynati. Don't think I said anything horribly offensive to Jan. If so, she has my honest apologies.
<<...and it looks like YOU are trying to stir things up…so far all you have been able to develop are FTSITWU (Flame Tobacco Stains In the Tidy Whitey Undies)>> ...Uh.... I have no responce to that. What the heck are you talking about!? o.O
<> I'd probably be getting angry at that about now... Except I know I would have said the exact same thing back in my peaceful days. *shrugs* ...Think what you like, Spacebabie. I even hope you're right. If the admins can turn this place around, I'll be the first one to stand up and cheer for em.

Incidentally, you imply that you're trying to be "part of the solution". If so, you're gonna need to learn how to voice disagreement in a less-confrontational way. Calling someone a quitter, even if they plainly ARE one, tends to put them on the defensive. It closes off communication channels, and you're gonna need those channels if you hope to calm them down. Just some advice, kiddo...

Josh><<Everyone? Even that guy?>> Yup, even that guy. Those were the days, my friend...
Gunjack Valentine
Friday, December 14, 2001 01:29:25 PM
IP: 205.188.200.183

Mooncat > thanks ... I'd just gotten through a binge of reading John Sandford's first 4 "Prey" books (talk about suspension of disbelief; I can handle a super-stud detective who does things his own way and gets away with it, but the fact that the man brings in enough money to afford a house, a Porsche, and a cabin on the lake as a GAME DESIGNER on the side ... puh-leeze!). I'm developing a taste for reading mysteries lately, which is proving entertaining.

Xmas specials > been watching all the old standbys on the Family channel. Those Rankin-Bass wooden puppets. Can't help it but I like the one with Heat Miser and Snow Miser. Saw the one with young Santa and sexy schoolmarm Jessica, and noticed that they edited out the song about sitting on his lap and a kiss a toy is the price you'll pay ... that one always did seem a little creepy somehow. Watched A Christmas Story yesterday, too, and that one's always going to be my favorite. Query: am I the only one who has never seen It's A Wonderful Life _or_ Miracle on 34th Street?

Got a sick kid today. I suppose it's good that she wants to go to school so much that we were all the way to the gate before she, crying, agreed to stay home again. But nothing would have made her miss yesterday, when all the first grades gathered in the cafeteria to make graham-cracker houses. I volunteered to help. What a mess! But I must say, having done that craft a few times at Cascade Hall, first-graders enjoy it quite a bit more than the average adult schizophrenic (most of whom only came to the group to eat the candy and frosting and not do the craft).

Book stuff > it's confirmed; I will be doing a reading and talk at the Everett Library on Sunday, March 3rd. With luck, Knight of the Basilisk and maybe even Black Roses will be out by then.

And we think WE have problems ... clickie for some real pros at petty arguing!
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, December 14, 2001 12:54:56 PM
IP: 64.24.187.197

Imzadi - <All I want for Christmas is Timedancer to premiere> That isn't what I want, but posting the lyrics to that song will not get you attacked by my conventional weapons.

**My Christmas Wish List**
I'm not that interested in material stuff [ok, a remote control airplane that has space to mount a web camera on it would be nice; double 15 (or higher) dominoes (I have a set of double nines and double twelves); web camera to go on said remote control airplane so that I could pilot the airplane while sitting down at my computer; my own electric car racing set (my brother has one and my dad has one. My brother and I own pices of track and cars. I have combined said track together and this addition would make the set even bigger.]

I really want is my back problems to go away so that I can walk around for a very long time. The other biggie is this damn paranoia inside of me to go away so I can be myself virtually 100% of the time (I can't be 100% trustworthy to my dad and get along with him.)
**end My Christmas Wish List**

Today, I will make a pecan pie. My mom had this recipe for pie crust that you had to measure it so precisely or it wouldn't work. I always had trouble with that recipe so I bought the pie crust; my dad wanted me to make the pie, but wouldn't buy the crust.

As soon as my sister-in-law returns the food processor, I will make some more cheese biscuits.

Imzadi - <First guess is always the best, right?> Not always, But as a general rule, every guess beyond number 4 has some flaw in it.

As guardian of the holographic mistletoe, I am pleased to announce that it has not mutated yet.

Spacebabie - <My dad is now 100 percent Cancer free> I would lay down a comment, but since my mom died of cancer after battling it for years, I am cynical on this.

When I hear about 'miracles' of people being healed from sickness on tv, I change the channel, but I can not ask why anymore because I let go of it.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55:26 AM
IP: 204.94.193.36

Ack! part of my medication is stuck in mythrought and every time I swallow I taste it, yuck!

Wendsday...My dad came home from the hospital...yay! and I also drank a nearly full pot of coffee.

SPOILERS for SP and Survivor....

South Park was F---ing hilarious. It focused on the minor character of Butters and his family. First I want a floating car like the one Butters road in. also there were some good jabs against the Ramseys,Gary Condut and OJ.

Survivor....Damnit! Lex won immunity, double Dammit Brendon got voted out. I liked him.

Spoilers end

and now for replies.

Nukes<<<Strong?>>> Maybe but I think its because we had a good Dr.

Aaron>>>More often J

Crzy<<>> When are you not?<<>> Enjoy their innocent youth while you still can. It won’t be long til they are at that age where they think they know everything and you know nothing. Sadly my brother has yet to grow out of that age.

Entity>>>Why do you want to find a negative review? Maybe it is a really great movie.

Gunjack>>>> never mind……what you said to Jannie was uncalled for, as for someone who used to try to calm things down as you claim to be you seem to have given up and it looks like YOU are trying to stir things up…so far all you have been able to develop are FTSITWU (Flame Tobacco Stains In the Tidy Whitey Undies) Guess what. I support the current Admin and I currently support trying to keep things calm mantra, and that is an army where you are a QUITTER!

Josh>>>Congrats on being clean.

Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl.
Friday, December 14, 2001 11:15:25 AM
IP: 67.25.52.188

Well gee, MAYBE I passed that one. I guess it'll depend on how well everyone else does. And given the way this class goes...I don't think it'll be too hot. Hopefully the average will be low enough for me to pass. If not, I'm screwed, because then I have to take the class over again...and I *really* don't want to have to do that.

I left early from the exam, only because I know that staying for an extra 2 hours wasn't going to help me come up with any epiphanies about how to do the problems in new and correct ways. First guess is always the best, right?

Spent the rest of the day studying for math, and getting my HIV test back. Good news: I'm clean. ::eyes people getting ready to make comments:: quiet, you!

Oh and just for Wilek: The FBI today confirmed the existence of that really evil software I was babbling about earlier. Welcome to the end of privacy as we know it.

In other news, you can now email the government to tell them what you think of the Microsoft settlement. The address is: microsoft.atr@usdoj.gov

no, its not MSDOJ...yet.

replies

Lynati: <>: Heh, monads are cool. <<any poem longer than two words is conclusively about sex>>: Der. <<I’ve still got 13 years>>: What happens in 13 years? <<it in fact has value in real-life>>: I'd hardly call the army "real life". <<should we change the header on the New Eps sign to say; “it’ll be done when it’s done, alright?!?>>: No. We should change it to "STOP ASKING!" <>: Actually, that's not what insulted me. I was peeved in general with being mocked for being responsible. Its not the first implication that I'm gay, and it won't be the last...by this point they don't bother me. <>: Actually I didn't use your name either. It was someone else's entirely that you jumped on him about, wasn't it? Lain's, I think? <>: Freeloading BUM! <<these are your elders, and by god, you will have respect for them>>: That is the worst thing I have ever heard. I should respect someone simply because they were born before me!? What the hell is that? <>: Of course it doesn't. It revolves around me. <<Wait, I’m going to try to decipher this one>>: Behold the powers of the SAT VERBAL! <<do you have any idea how many people in this CR lurk and even occasionally post in the s8 comment room>>: I wondered about that myself. <<openly admit to being one of the biggest narcissistic hypocrites on the planet>>: Hey! That's MY job!

Spike: Congrats!

Metaldemon: <<is dropping a subject not a concept here>>: It takes a long time for anything to get truly dropped, unless an Admin steps in and says NO MORE. Otherwise, someone drops by who hasn't posted in a few days, or a week, or whatever, and adds their opinion, which sparks it all up again. <<Is this a fourth grade sandbox?>>: Are you surprised?

Sorow: she's a cool villian...if you consider her a villian>>: I just consider her hot.

Crzy: <<no one would submit anything but Pissy>>: Says who? <<Define 'frequently'>>: How about you define it. Then I'll decide if it counts. <<They gang raped Josh in S8 and I MISSED IT!?! damn>>: Its alright, I'm still alive. Thank you for your concern ;-) <<Imagine sitting in hot, steamy Sibera... working on your tan, drinking pina coladas>>: Ugh, I hate pina coladas too. <>: Now ask your husband if you can trade them in on a 24-year old ;-) My mom always threatens to do that to my dad "Ooh good, this year I can trade you in on 2 24-year olds" she said at his last b-day" <<like a good mommy, I got them a dental appointment! FUN>>: What kind of a b-day present is that!?

Terrky: <>: This single phrase proves otherwise.

DPH: <<All I want for Christmas is Timedancer to premiere>>: Sadly, that isn't all I want for Christmas. <<Isn't Miss Parker an antiheroine by now?>>: No, she's eye candy. <<someone added the word 'teh' to the dictionary>>: Probably...just not my dictionary. <<12 days until Christmas>>: Which brings me to this: why is the song "twelve days of x-mas". Did x-mas become 12 days at some point? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it celebrates the birth of Jesus, and even if Jesus IS the messiah, HOW COULD HE HAVE BEEN BORN FOR 12 DAYS! <<Make a major plot point about things gargoyles shouldn't do just before sunrise>>: Anything you wouldn't want to be seen doing ALL DAY LONG.

Aaron: <<2/3s of the Adminship has been in finals all of today>>: Maybe, just MAYBE, we should have an admin who isn't college-age. But no, the nepotism of the admin position pervades. <<Nukes, Terrky, Lynati, all of you in your respective corners. AWAY FROM EACH OTHER>>: Isn't the CR round? <<Can I contribute an article on the joys of flame-baiting?>>: Is that anything like master-baiting? I guess since Pistoff and Crzy and SJ cause more flame wars in here than anyone else, they *are* master-baiters... ;-)

Jan: <<The old "he did it too" excuse hasn't been acceptable since you were 5>>: What if he still IS five?

Metaldemon: <<Well...uh...good job! Keep it that way!>>: I plan to.

Gunjack: <<Lemme say up front thatI've always held everyone in this CR, especially the admins, in the highest respect>>: Everyone? Even that guy? <<NO FLAMER HAS EVER BEEN BANNED>>: Thank god. I'd have been banned long ago. <<SJ: the hate feels SO GOOD! Is this what it's like to be you?>>: Yup! Glorious, isn't it?!

Gside: <<it gets cold being in the freezer all the time>>: I'd imagine it would. I'll have to hang elsewhere. <<What say we do it together?>>: Tempting, but no thanks. <<Just proving that engineering departments hate their students>>: I can't figure out why though. <<Better violent deaths of famous and fictional people than flame wars>>: Not sure I agree.

HailerStar: <<I'm done with all of mine! yay! (Yeah yeah I know I know 'I suck' cuz I'm free and many of you are still chained to your desks!) nyah!>>: Don't make me beat you like a red-headed stepchild. <<I'd like to ask what is an 'off limits' topic>>: Its a topic that you're not supposed to talk about, DUH.

Greg X: <<This man isn't human. Seeing this is all the proof one would need of that>>: Wait till you see Earth after I take over...

Okay, 1AM...time for sleep.

Mounting is used for three things: climbing on a horse, linking in a hard disk unit in data systems, and, well, sex.
-Christa Keil

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, December 14, 2001 04:10:04 AM
IP: 64.170.153.208

Well, I jst got back from work and I watched the Osama bin Laden tape on CNN. Out of everything I have ever watched in my life, I have not seen anything that made me reel over in disgust as this did. This man isn't human. Seeing this is all the proof one would need of that. Him sitting there talking about it with his fundi terrorist friends and laughing about it. I did not think I could despise this man more, well when you're dealing with the lowest form of scum on this planet, they'll always find a way to disgust you even more. I truly look forward to the day when we find this THING and make IT pay. Killing him is way too good for him. I can think of some really dark and disturbing things, but I'm having trouble coming up with something fitting enough to do to him.

Sorry but after viewing that video tape, I could care less about this flame war. I'm more concerned with this real war and this real monster.
Greg Bishansky
Friday, December 14, 2001 01:40:32 AM
IP: 216.179.1.173

[delurks]
josh>> 'grats

lynati>> I hate to ask, but I somehow managed to lose the stories you sent me... could you send 'em again (the bubble address). thanks.

God bless and have a happy/blessed/merry whatever!
[relurks]
Daphne
Friday, December 14, 2001 01:07:07 AM
IP: 129.68.138.125

Heyla All,
Hope finals are over quickly and panilessly! I'm done with all of mine! yay! (Yeah yeah I know I know 'I suck' cuz I'm free and many of you are still chained to your desks!) nyah! *kidding, just kidding* Okay, so from scanning the numerous posts about recent flaming, I'd like to ask what is an 'off limits' topic? Not that I go out of my way to find any but I just don't want to steam roll over anyone's feet, ya know?
To all of you out there who are free from finals for close to it: Happy Holidays (Whatever ones you choose to celebrate!) May all you love and hold close be safe this coming season!
Also: Archwolf...Starlight sends you stardust!
HailerStar - [hailerro@wolfrunners.com]
Friday, December 14, 2001 12:51:47 AM
IP: 207.42.162.181

Fellowship Reviews> Well if you need a curmudgeonI'm your man. I'm slowly cutting through the Rings. (Halfway through Two Towers now) Oddly, though, my criticize is that there just isn't enough stuff. I wanted to know more about the Ringwraiths. (How were they corrupted? What happened to the lands they ruled?) Legolas and Gimli (What happened that caused the rift between elves and dwarves? Tolkien paints the elves as near perfect beings so I'm guessing the bad is on the dwarves.) I didn't mind the fellowship, but there was so much history in the backgroun, I wanted to know more about that than trudge over hill and barrow, swamp and sylven glade with a pack of hobbits. As for the movie, I'm optimistic.

Well, back to the dragon migration. See ya.
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Friday, December 14, 2001 12:30:43 AM
IP: 24.205.118.23

Imzadi> <<Hey, if they only want me for my cream, I can handle that>>: But it gets cold being in the freezer all the time.
<<Do they need them? There's always a willing schoolgirl>>: The assumption was that there wasn't. Perhaps an unfortunate one detained by Wilek.
<<The way I see it, there's nothing brain-sapping about being paid to be naked. Hell, if I could do it I would>>: What say we do it together?

Fire Storm> <<Have you... been beaten for impure thoughts?>>: Maybe he went to Catholic school.

Spacebabie> <<My dad is now 100 percent Cancer free>>: Good to hear.

Aaron> <<You da man>>: I'm the man.
<<Yes, you're the one who got me hooked on it>>: Evil laugh.

Niamhgold> <<Is it time, boys, to unleash Nicolai?>>: I don't believe I was actually involved last time, but the place could use something to lighten up the atmosphere.

Imzadi> <<Into what?>>: Something else.
<<What is the planet coming to when I have to be up before 10AM (already an unreasonable request) on a weekend>>: Just proving that engineering departments hate their students.
<>: I've done it in just about all the lectures.
<<Lighten!? With his disturbing imagery?>>: Better violent deaths of famous and fictional people than flame wars.
<<Sweet!>>: Quite, and they are very large.
<>: True, but it introduces the concept more slowly and with less likely of a violent reaction.

Early exam tomorrow. I will catch up eventually.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:58:12 PM
IP: 165.230.240.118

SJ - Still waitin' on the email, laddie. You know where to find me.

Jan><<*blinks* what's so nice about what he said?>> There was nothing nice about it. That was kinda the point. And no, I wasn't really itching for the mother of all flame wars; in fact, I'm hoping currently to catch up on my conciliatory correspondence over the break. The spirit of joy and peace and all that, dontcha know.

As far as I'm concerned, the current discussion has jack to do with you. As a matter of fact, if you woulda kept out from the beginning, I wouldn't have had to spend most of the afternoon yelling "LOVE AND PEACE!". What this is about is a friendship ending, because I'm tired of putting up with the crud. I've known Lyn for quite a while; almost as long as Lain. We used to be pretty good friends, but I'm embarressed by what I've seen.

Think I'm wrong? Please explain why... in email, if you please. I don't think Aaron wants too much more of this sort of talk in here. I'm honestly (emphasis on that last word; apologies again) interested in your take.

Aaron - Lemme say up front thatI've always held everyone in this CR, especially the admins, in the highest respect. I was a member of this CR for... two years? two and a half?
In all that time, how many flame wars did we have? Every time I was here for them, I did my dead best to calm things down. I considered it my responsibility as a poster in this room to actually TAKE ACTION when the gloves came off, to try to calm things down. Y'know, the whole "love and peace" gig. And I watched as the wars got hotter and hotter. I watched as people got run out on rails, including two admins and several posters. I watched people get ripped, flamed, dragged through the mud, and beaten down until all they could do was limp away. Sometimes I even agreed with what the flamers had to say, but I still tried to get them to keep things rational. It never seemed to work, but I tried anyway.
And then, after a while, it was my turn. And I learned a few things that you just can't learn except by direct experience.

Every time there's been a conclusive flamewar in this room, the flamers have won.

NO FLAMER HAS EVER BEEN BANNED. Not that I've seen, at least. Not even when they've run other posters clean out of the room.

You told me to be "part of the solution instead of adding to the problem". I WAS. The solution didn't work, and I ended up getting hurt very, very badly. Since then, I've been working on learning the new rules.

But, on the other hand, you say that it's a new regime. Personally, I think that's bull puckey, but I'm always up for a good show. So I'll sit back, quiet-like, and watch you try to kill the hate without killing the room.

Part of me wants to address the subject of my warning, but there's no real point. Apparently, it only counts as a personal attack if you come right out and say what you mean. I'll remember to stick to veiled insults and snippy jabs in the future.

Rampantly Yours,
-Mike Singleton

PS - SJ: the hate feels SO GOOD! Is this what it's like to be you?
Gunjack "Angel Eyes" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:32:35 PM
IP: 205.188.200.53

Josh <<I'm HIV negative! Woohoo!>> Well...uh...good job! Keep it that way!!

metaldmeon
Thursday, December 13, 2001 09:16:08 PM
IP: 129.120.255.222

::does happy dance::

Guess what I am?

Nope, not that.

Nope, not that either.

I'm HIV negative! Woohoo!

::goes back to happy-dancing in the corner::

!@#$, now I have to study for my math final.
Josh
Thursday, December 13, 2001 08:44:19 PM
IP: 64.170.153.208

This is another Public Service Announcement brought to you, in part, by Slim Admin.

Alright, I've read the room. I've tried very hard to avoid ruffling feathers in the past. This has changed. It's a new regime.

Nukes, Terrky, Lynati, all of you in your respective corners. AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.

Nukes, if somebody doesn't like you, stop talking about it before you alienate everybody else.

SJ/Crzy... This one is bigger then me. I've watched it grow and develop, and it still confounds me. SJ, looking forward to that webzine. Can I contribute an article on the joys of flame-baiting?

Moochie> If you're going to complain about the state of the place, try being a part of the solution instead of adding to the problems. That was a personal attack, and won't be tolerated. Consider yourself warned.

Anything else?

Yeah, sue me.

"The ice you skate, is gettin' pretty thin..." Smashmouth "All Star"

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
Thursday, December 13, 2001 08:40:51 PM
IP: 64.154.236.169

Nukes> <<the "near ambush" was OTHER people saything things of thier own opinions as well,not just me, so i dont see why i deserve the blame for that :) >> because YOU are the one who _first_ insulted people here in the TGS. YOU started that particular topic/insult. At least take responsibility for your own actions/words. The old "he did it too" excuse hasn't been acceptable since you were 5.
<<gunjack- WoW.nice. 8)>> *blinks* what's so nice about what he said? He's itchin' for the "mother of all flame wars" and he has targeted in on Lyanti in hopes of accomplishing this. *rolls eyes* I could rip out a scathing post right now about my opinion of his post, but Aaron has requested that no more be said about it right now. *duct tape fingers together*

Coyote> glad to see you're doing alright! Check in more often! =)

Spike> WOW!! Congrats - I know that must have been such a wonderful and fulfilling experience! *envious*

We had a great time at the Christmas party :)
I had this beautiful Christmas arrangement in my car and we needed a centerpiece, so I brought it in and used it. When Kathy (the admin) asked me where I had gotten such a beautiful arrangement, I had to do a confession... I found it...*hesitates*.... at the cemetery. *silly grin and blushes* Yes, the "centerpiece" was actually a headstone arrangement. I didn't steal it! It had blown off during the last wind storm and I found it against the fence line and was going to try and track down the owners... but in the meantime, I used it at our Christmas party *L* Once the word got out, everyone was laughing so hard and I was up to my 18th shade of red. Nothing like getting your party decorations from the cemetery...
(I was able to find the owners and return the arrangement to the proper headstone today...after I put the saddle back on it) ;) (the saddle is that wire thingy that goes underneath and "hugs" the headstone)
When I left today the sheriff instructed me to stay away from the cemetery. *LOL* heh, not like we needed to decorate anything so I didn't need to go anyway ;)
ok, ok.. I know this is morbid humor... but it really was funny :D *coughs and moves on*

Josh> yeah, congrats is good *nods* Anna keeping the baby is a good thing and a decision that I'm proud of her for making. It was going to be a difficult challenge for me to raise Zach (but one that I would have done without hesitation) and there was never a really legitimate reason for her not to raise her own child. I will be here to assist when needed and she has the support system of all of the family.

Survivor is on right now... I hope Lex is voted off tonight.

*goes to watch TV*

*continues eyeing DPH's hologram mistletoe*

Jan
Thursday, December 13, 2001 08:29:05 PM
IP: 12.110.236.65

Just checking in to let folks know that I'm still alive. **huggles Ravyn** And that I'm thoroughly enjoying my newly-minted Fire Storm Special, even after nearly a week. :)

Now off to my Sims Addicts Anonymous meeting ... ;)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Thursday, December 13, 2001 07:26:12 PM
IP: 64.243.208.130

2/3s of the Adminship has been in finals all of today, thanks very much. Nothing like a break from studying for tomorrow's final to find a flamewar in progress.

I don't know what's going on, but all of you CEASE AND DESIST until I can read the room and figure out what's going on.

IF you'd like to email me a synopsis of, from your own POV is happening, feel free. In the meantime, quit acting like a bag of rabid hamsters.

And the beat goes on...

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, December 13, 2001 06:48:20 PM
IP: 204.30.195.89

HELLO!? ::voice echoes off empty walls::

Hello!?

IS THERE AN ADMIN IN THE HOUSE!?

::echoes::
Josh
Thursday, December 13, 2001 06:35:42 PM
IP: 64.170.153.208

S.J.- <<You do seem to be good at unintentionally pissing people off. (And before the jokes role in, the difference b/w me and Nukes is the matter of intent.)
Sorry, I’m still a bit sore about the near ambush of Josh in the S8 room last week. >>

nah, josh was just plain offesive to me. i dont THINK he was ever "pissed off" and me.

the "near ambush" was OTHER people saything things of thier own opinions as well,not just me, so i dont see why i deserve the blame for that :)

so far, ive only unintentionally pissed off 1 person. is that enough to make me good at it? lol.

Greg B- <<What the Hell is your problem? So Lynati doesn't like you. I don't see why you're making such a big deal about it. In life sometimes people don't like other people, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for no reason... I know there are plenty of people I don't like for no real reason. It's not the end of the world if she doesn't like you. Get over it.>>

done. thanks for the insightfull commentary. it was funny too. i take your word for it ;]

josh- <<One female has told you so. Hardly a resounding opinion.>>

i know, just trying to pull the attention away from the word "cute" (me being a guy posting to a guy)

know what i mean ? 8)

lynati- <<And you are talking about “getting him back” over FRIES! Listen to what you are saying! >>

there are other things too! but you dont care, so i didnt say. if you want to hear the REALLY stupid things hes done, i can send you a email my friend wrote to alot of seniors. of course, not JUST the frenchfries, but that got EVERYONE a little ticked ;)

<<Only one of the reasons I have has no decent basis for existing. And it is not either of the ones that most fuel my dislike for you. >>

really? damn.. i didnt know that. well, i can see what else you might have against me know that i think about it... wanna tell me what they are anyway?

<<You post insulting things to people, than pretend you don’t know what you said to piss them off. You keep pleading the point until they forgive you; and then you do it again. You’ve done it to me at least twice now, and I’ve simply decided I’ve had enough of your BS and I’m not going to play your little game any longer. >>

no matter what i say to this.. im screwed. im gonna reply to this anyway.

i have no idea what your talking about (ironically, you can just say that this reply further proves your point, but anyway..)

i know personally that i dont try to piss people off. i might be forgetting something, but right now i think your wrong. no one is "REALLY" pissed off at me ('cept you?) and josh was just a little offensive in my opinion to start off with. but, he isnt anymore and know we both are o.k.

<<(FYI, the “all” only refered to it being a complete copy, as I had to scan it in two sections. And “smaller” is because it is a copy of the scan that is size-reduced.) >>

yeah i got that impression, but i used the names that i got. yes, i liked them very much.

<I’m going to try to decipher this one. >> i hate it when people dislike me for a reaosn that i dont see is right.

and i got lost in you last post too *lol*.

<<angus"> Somehow, I don’t think that is correct; not surprising, considering you already admitted to not bothering to read anything I had wrote. I know no-one by that name, in fic or online or in RL. The only thing that could possibly relate to is the song “Angus and his kilt”, which I have no recollection of mentioning to you and can’t think of a reason why I would have.>>

yep, thats it. you were posting the lyrics to that song, that made me remember. i saw THAT much and i used "lol" to laugh at the song cause i couldnt think of anything else to say.
<<but just enjoy jerking everyone around>> no, i would never take pleasure in jerking people around. you _ really_ dont know the person i am.
<<which I have no recollection of mentioning to you and can’t think of a reason why I would have. >>

seems we *both* have a bad memory about that conversation.

<<You IM me, want to talk>> i remember IMing you... cant remember ANYTHING about that. did i use lol then? probably becausee i had a million other conversations going on as well ( i have friends, you know).

should i have IMed you when i didnt think i could respond well? no i shouldnt have . that was my fault.

im NOT playing dumb! it was a friggin year ago with a person that i NEVER talk to anymore. what do you expect!? YOU cant ever remember it either!

the only thing i remember was when you , i , and lain were talking on MSN, together.

<<...OH. and THAT’s supposed to make me feel BETTER?? >>

i said i wasnt paying attention to show you that i would _never_ laugh at your life. i didnt know you were talking about life or w/e. i just used lol cause i didnt have the time.

yes, i should have paid more attention.

<<eh? I never put one of my pets down>> im confused too. i remember you talking about death or killing something...

<<well, if you’d bothered to read, you would have.>>

said that myself!

<<First impressions are the strongest>> thats why i apologized so much.

and i dont play innocent (intentionally, anyway). i usually remember the things i say to other people.

<> thanks.

<<If you think the “lol” thing is my own reason for disliking you, you REALLY have not been paying attention>>

nope, i havnt. yeah i should be, i know.

<<snide remarks at me, and saying things just to annoy me. >>

cant remember what i said about you, but im sure i did. shouldnt have.. sorry. i guess that is the BS that you are feferring too. what i did say, i was angry at you for some reason. DAmn.. cant remember why....

you are justified.

<<“Thom Adcox should go to Hell. Lol.” as soon as you found out he was my favorite Voice Actor, when two minute earlier you literally had not even known who he was. In that same chat, you also called me both “insane” and “pathetic”.>>

no, you said he was GOD. and i asked you if you were sure and you really meant that. you said you did. i thought THAT was pathetic, you said you worshipped him too. i also thought that was pathetic. i wasnt saying that stuff BECAUSE he was your fav voice actor, i said it BECAUSE you worshipped him like that...

and i dont remember ever saying thom should go to hell. at all. after all, i dont know him.

<<Okay. so, you want to “be my friend”, but go ahead and admit two seconds later that you are going to laugh at what I say to you? >>

i was guessing that you would insult me or something. i guess i was wrong.

what i meant by a good laugh was being able to PREDICT what you would say, not WHAT you said.

<<“She must be thinking about me all the time, and b!tching to people online about how much she hates me!” >>

i dont think that at all.

<<In fact, I think we owe you for all the laughter you have caused us; it has certainly been helpful in the stress-relief department. >>

glad i could be of help in some way. i mean, come on, life is funny, right? :)

<<And just for the record...do you have any idea how many people in this CR lurk and even occasionally post in the s8 comment room? >>

i post there now, too. i started about 2 weeks ago. the people that post here and there dont usually even talk to me, except for josh, who made a nice comment to me about an olive branch.

and the people that are regulars there accepted me nicely. in fact, 1 of them is emailing me now with some of her legal work.

<,Check the ISP if you doubt me>> i dont doubt you. in fact, thats the first time i ever thought about that, you being souther comfort. i dont talk abouut you to anyone, ever. your just someone i post to in the cr, nothing else.
you to terrky:
<<...Incidentally, I cannot began to say how amusing I found it that you misspelled the word “intelligent” in that sentence.>>

you know, im REALLY glad you get SUCH a good laugh out of other people. your SUCH a nice person. makes me wonder why i EVER wanted to be your friend.

DPH- your right!! im sorry! :)

gunjack- WoW.nice. 8)

NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Thursday, December 13, 2001 06:29:13 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Question for all, who here is in the MO/KS/OK area? Anyone planning on going to the 2002 Gathering, and will you be flying or driving? Trying to settle my own plans for going to the Gathering this year. If there are people near me who want to go as a group or what, let me know.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Thursday, December 13, 2001 04:40:36 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Lynati Kshundra: Your paranoia is showing, dear. I've lost track of how many times you've accused me of hurting, dissing, and backstabbing you, and now you've brought it here. And once again, I have no earthly idea what you're talking about. And frankly, I'm getting rather tired of dealing with these ravings. You, Lain, and little ol me. Right here. Any time your ready.

You say you've grown a backbone, but that's a lie. You're a small, weak, hollow person and not really worth my time. But you think you can kick people around because it makes you feel big. That's a mistake.

You're not here to see this, but you'll be back. I'll be waiting. You'll have two choices. Bend over and take it, or make the first real couragious decision of your life, come out, and tango.

Love and kisses,

-Mike Singleton
Gunjack "White Angel" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Thursday, December 13, 2001 04:28:54 PM
IP: 12.64.196.80

I'm just curious, has ANYONE seen ONE bad review of Fellowship yet? If you have, please show it to me. So far this is becoming insane. Professional critics, indie web-pagers, sneak peakers -- they're ALL positive. Anyway, that concludes my break from getting my fix... back to review-reading and trailer-playing...
Entity - [j_cotleur@hotmail.com]
Thursday, December 13, 2001 03:28:18 PM
IP: 140.228.114.171

Spike - congrats!

Christine - read "Clan of One" -- Hippolyta is an interesting character, but the story seemed less about her than it was about the serial killer. It was a good read, very engrossing. I liked the town and the sheriff *^_^*

Well back to work. sigh.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Thursday, December 13, 2001 02:37:08 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

NukesGoBoom - Since you have been here a while, I expected NOT to ask the question about TD.

Gabrielle - Technically, Winter 2001 has not arrived yet so the TGS staff could [*DPH thinks about his choice of words*] theoritically release TD on time. Of course, it is acceptable to post the lyrics to 'All I want for Christmas is Timedancer to premiere'.

Apparantly, people have been finding that hidden escape route from the CR and able elude my conventional weaponary.

Sorow & Imzadi - Isn't Miss Parker an antiheroine by now?

Imzadi Let me guess: someone added the word 'teh' to the dictionary.

It's 12 days until Christmas and the holographic mistletoe is ok.

Rodlox - Here's a thought for Avalon Mists: Make a major plot point about things gargoyles shouldn't do just before sunrise. Yes, there are sufficient PG-rated possibilites.

Hehehe.
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, December 13, 2001 02:32:03 PM
IP: 204.94.193.25

Lynati <<Umm, excuse me, but do you even bother to read what is going on here?!? I hadn’t mentioned that “lol” thing in the past week and a half, at the very least. I looked in last week’s archives to make sure. Nukes brought it up again>>

actually, i was not refering to you directly. NUKES brought it up, and through out my post, i was tryin to tell him to drop it. he mentioned it, not you, so i was refering to him when i said that. ;)

<>

as for that, that was hypothetical.

<>

LOL, i get that alot. OK, so i suck at spelling. i can write pretty good, and i like to read. i just suck at spelling. ;)

anyway, all good intentions, all good intentions

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K
Kansas
Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:10:32 PM
IP: 208.18.58.254

Patrick - B. Liddy? You are a sick man... :) I'm so glad I get to be the test audience for your humor.

Greg B. - <<"It's probably nothing, just something he does to try to get under your skin.">> The old "Try to piss her off by trashing on her best friend" thing, huh? :P BTW, thanks for the e-mail the other day.

SJ - If you were in charge of Av Mists, no one would submit anything but Pissy. ... Guess your "Usual band of idiots" is much smaller than ours, THANK GOD. <<"Perhaps it’s the company he keeps.">> ah, I see, you are just jealous! HOW CUTE! >:)

Josh - <> Define 'frequently'.

GAH! They gang raped Josh in S8 and I MISSED IT!?! damn.

Gotta agree with Josh on the Adam Sandler thing though... blech.

"Tropical Tundra"... I was being a smart ass. (Shocking, I know) Imagine sitting in hot, steamy Sibera... working on your tan, drinking pina coladas... okay, nix the Pina Coladas... I hate those things.

Today is the Twins birthday! 12 year olds... I HAVE 12 YEAR OLDS!! O.O ... so like a good mommy, I got them a dental appointment! FUN!!!
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:47:19 AM
IP: 63.28.181.217

New on my site: "Clan of One," a story in which Hippolyta is pitted against serial killers in Trinity Bay, CA. Mature readers only, please, due to violence and sexual content.

Click or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:27:26 AM
IP: 64.24.214.141

SJ> Thanks for the pick me up :)
Josh> I completely agree with you. I love Ms. Parker too, because she's a cool villian...if you consider her a villian.
Lynati> Thanks for the congrats :)
SOROW
Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:46:08 AM
IP: 129.116.38.151

Sorry for the double post
Spike> *hugs* Congrats! You are lucky and blessed to have an opprotunity like that.
metaldemon
Thursday, December 13, 2001 09:58:24 AM
IP: 129.120.255.222

To begin...is dropping a subject not a concept here. I guess me going, "Hey, apologies, let's drop the suject" (not a direct quote), is not enough for people to drop. I know some people didn't (and if you're wondering, "Is that me?" then it probably is), and even accused me of ambushing Josh AFTER I SAID TO DROP IT, to whom I apologized in an unorthodox way before people decided to come to Josh's aid (no Josh, I am not intending to deride or accuse you in anyway, please don't take it like that). And I said to drop it to avoid any other future conflicts that might happen because of what I did. Does this just not click? Is this a fourth grade sandbox? Yeah, I'm probably guilty of this myself and am being a hypocrite; it really wouldn't surprise me if someone searched the archives and then postd to me in an off hand manner saying, "Some people" or "someone" instead of outright saying my name. But when someone asks to drop it, FUC&$*G DROP IT!!
Now, where was I.
Lynati> I told myself I would leave the guy alone since I felt unjustified for attcking him earlier. See above.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Thursday, December 13, 2001 09:56:58 AM
IP: 129.120.255.222

Terrifying and thrilling. Hundreds of people cheering. Helicopters and news crews. Blanking out everything except putting one foot in front of the other. Passing the flame to my brother-in-law in one moment and getting broadsided by my son, Mr. "Don't-touch-me-in-public", for a BIG hug in the next. Bursting into tears for no good reason except it seemed to be appropriate at the time.

The most amazing thing I've ever done in my life.

Spike - ["...There she goes, just a-walkin' down the street..."]
Thursday, December 13, 2001 06:51:57 AM
IP: 208.190.38.43

*Brushes the fabric gate open, and slides through*

So, it is 3:38 am the morning I leave for home, I just finished working on my last project, and I’m...feeling as near as faded as my jeans.
It has been a busy year, oh yes; it has.

Of what I have learned...
Art History, I have learned that the monadular existence is a lonely one. (A+ . and only half an answer wrong on the final.)
In Holocaust class, I’ve learned that if you were locked into a room with your closest friends for weeks with no food, then you could see what it is, friends!...and then wind up wearing a mouse mask for the rest of your life, and drawing the French as frogs. (A or high B; and I feel very good about the final, even if I don’t yet know the grade.)
Poetry, I’ve learned that morality is completely subjective, T.S. Eliot was bigot, Lewis Carol a pederast, and any poem longer than two words is conclusively about sex. (prob’ly a “C”. :P )
Clay and Glazes, I’ve learned that most potters die early due to chemical poisonings, and covering your body with metal-based paint will land you in a mental institution for several months. (B or B+, I think. I got a 127/150 on the final; damn that amorphous silica!)
Ceramics itself...I’ve learned that all my other classes have a noticeable affect on my work. And that paper-clay tastes awful. ( I have no idea. ~_~ )

These are the days of lasers in jungle...lasers in the jungle somewhere.

There was so much I wanted to get done; so much that slipped through the cracks.
But hey, I’ve still got 13 years.

Reeeeeeesponses:
Green Baron : <Try being late to formation in the Army. If you do it too often you get demoted and lose pay, or you get humiliating punishments like carrying a wall clock with you :)> See? It is not just a school thing; it in fact has value in real-life. : )

Spacebabie: Good for your father; I hope he makes a quick recovery.

Jannie: < (What you said to nukes on Tuesday) > Thank you. I’m glad I have not been coming across as acting completely unreasonable on this. Although, I must admit, one of my reasons for how I act towards nukes is not truly his fault; I am simply jealous of something that he has. However, even without this factor, I can say for certain that I would still find his presence...distasteful.
Oh, and I hope your Christmas party went well. :)

Gabrielle: *adds name to list* Welcome. Don’t mind the laser canons. A lot of people have been posting in here asking the same question, and it has been getting a tad...tiresome. Please, be patient with us.

People, should we change the header on the New Eps sign to say; “it’ll be done when it’s done, alright?!”

Christine: Good luck on the new fic. I just ran across your article on stepping down from AvMists the other day, a short time before SJ posted about it. I have not been following the ‘zine too closely, but from I did see of it, you did a great job.

Wilek: and a rather belated “Happy thanksgiving” to you, too.

SOROW: congrats on the A’s!

Gside: oh, he doesn’t care if you are there or not. If you aren’t, you don’t get the material you need to pass the tests, and you fail the class. But he *hates* being interrupted, so if you come in late just once, he drops you a letter grade. No way to make up for it, either.

SJ: I got the joke, if only because his name came up in a discussion of TGS past-posters recently. I started posting here before he left, and I actually do remember –somewhat vaguely- what was going on.

Firestorm: yes, I do write these in Word, usually.

Aingeal: deep breath! It’ll all be over soon.

Metaldemon: ...I just have to ask...
Okay, I get that you think Josh overreacted to nukes asking if he was gay; and perhaps you are right; it should NOT be a thing that people get insulted over. But Social Conditioning aside, does it really not bother you that nukes fairly obviously intended this comment *to be* an insult?

Imzadi: < > I didn;t mind that YOU used my name; you practically told me you were on IM right before you posted. My comment was directed solely at nukes, but if you started it, then I guess I should retract my complaint. I will now aim a complaint at you, because nukes misinterpreted what you said, and now has yet another thing to try to bash me with.

Nukes: <a good maturity level.> I never said being immature was bad.
<something in common> I’m sure we do. But this isn’t it. I hate driving. But do I know how to do it.
< JOSH> True.
<Hey, you don’t even know the a$$hole. Besides, don’t act like im the only one who is going to get him back for his absurdity ( HE TOOK FRENCH FRIES OFF THE MENU FOR LUNCH!! INEXUSABLE .. but that’s not the only thing, obviously)> No, I don’t. but you were generally implying that you were going to beat up your principal (or perhaps just toilet paper his house, but you sounded awfully vindictive.) because he is making you take a *required course* for your school. An class full of important things you should know. And french fries aren’t healthy. White Potatoes are all starch and crap and do nothing but bloat you, even if they do taste good. Obviously, this guy is concerned about the health of the students. Somehow, I doubt he took your fries away just to punish or to spite you all. Although, anything is possible, and no, I do *not* know him.
But these are your elders, and by god, you will have respect for them. Or, no one of the next generation will ever have respect for any of us, and we will all die in under-funded nursing homes. What goes around comes around.
And you are talking about “getting him back” over FRIES! Listen to what you are saying!

<And you should take a look at what josh posted to me about that. He gave me the BEST idea I have heard of.> Yes, yes, Josh is a smartass. Tell me something new.

<is that even possible? > Yes. Because despite what your ego tells you, I really don’t have that strong feelings about you one way or the other. But don’t sweat it. I have to remind my own self daily that the world does not revolve around me; my existence means absolutely jack to all but a handful of people. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves. ...Of course, this does present a dilemma, because you can thus never be sure if snide comments made in your general direction are actually aimed *at* you, when you don’t know for sure who is being talked about. But, you will always wonder if it was meant for you.

 Only one of the reasons I have has no decent basis for existing. And it is not either of the ones that most fuel my dislike for you.

<We need to change this. Like I said before, I didn’t even know what you were talking about, that’s why I was so surprised to learn that you disliked me when I did. I think that you have gotten so used to this that you have no care to change, no care to realize that I am not the person you think I am. >
My, but your posts do have more strength to them when you bother to capitalize your “I”’s. Same for the grammar corrections.
And I think you are *exactly* the person I think you are, but just enjoy jerking everyone around, and then playing the innocent. You post insulting things to people, than pretend you don’t know what you said to piss them off. You keep pleading the point until they forgive you; and then you do it again. You’ve done it to me at least twice now, and I’ve simply decided I’ve had enough of your BS and I’m not going to play your little game any longer.

<”Cat” and “Kali”> wish my teacher had thought so. I got B’s on both of them.
(FYI, the “all” only refered to it being a complete copy, as I had to scan it in two sections. And “smaller” is because it is a copy of the scan that is size-reduced.)

<lynati, i only try to make friends with people who are not interested for the _wrong_ reason. > back with the illegible stuff. Wait, I’m going to try to decipher this one.
I’ve got it up to the “..with people”, and then you lose me. I honestly do not understand what the rest of this sentence means. “You, for a reason that is wrong, are only trying to make friends with people who are not interested”, Or, “You are only trying to make friends with people, and for a wrong reason, these people are not interested”?

 ...OH. and THAT’s supposed to make me feel BETTER?? You IM me, want to talk, ask me about my life and then IGNORE every word I write? If you DON’T CARE, do NOT imply that you DO. If you wanted background noise, you should have turned on the radio. <"angus"> Somehow, I don’t think that is correct; not surprising, considering you already admitted to not bothering to read anything I had wrote. I know no-one by that name, in fic or online or in RL. The only thing that could possibly relate to is the song “Angus and his kilt”, which I have no recollection of mentioning to you and can’t think of a reason why I would have.

<you eventually told me you were talking your pet and putting it down.> eh? I never put one of my pets down. well, if you’d bothered to read, you would have. *shakes her head again* <wrong reason> First impressions are the strongest. Even then, I gave you the benefit of the doubt. But your continued “humor” here has pissed me off. Maybe no one else is bothered by it, but I am standing up for my rights to be annoyed by things that annoy me. Don’t worry, I won’t let it become a habit or nuthin’.
~
<the other person talking couldnt remember either.> What can I say? It just wasn’t a very important conversation.

<its not all about me WANTING to be lynati's friend, its about her disliking me for the wrong and _dumbest_ reason ive ever heard off. >
If you think the “lol” thing is my own reason for disliking you, you REALLY have not been paying attention. You kept posting how you wanted to be my friend, and then what did you do (the same night as one of your posts) in a Chat room? You kept making snide remarks at me, and saying things just to annoy me. Not the least of which was saying that “Thom Adcox should go to Hell. Lol.” as soon as you found out he was my favorite Voice Actor, when two minute earlier you literally had not even known who he was. In that same chat, you also called me both “insane” and “pathetic”.
Oh, but perhaps you weren’t looking at the screen when you typed that, huh?
Even now, you keep saying how you want to be friends with me, then post things like, “i think we can both get a good laugh at what she will say to that”. ...Okay. so, you want to “be my friend”, but go ahead and admit two seconds later that you are going to laugh at what I say to you?
And, what is more, you post this right under you response to me. Do you think no one else READS your comments that aren’t directed to them?
It is really sad that I am even bothering to speak to you. I bet you are thinking, “She must be thinking about me all the time, and b!tching to people online about how much she hates me!”
Well, you know what? We do talk about you online. A lot. And it isn’t because we hate you, because we don’t. And it isn’t because we like you, either. It is because almost all of us are in the middle of Finals, the stress level is high, and you are the greatest source of amusement many of us have found in a long while. In fact, I think we owe you for all the laughter you have caused us; it has certainly been helpful in the stress-relief department.
...And just for the record...do you have any idea how many people in this CR lurk and even occasionally post in the s8 comment room? (Judging from your very first words to your new roomates, I don’t think that you do.) Which reminds me...

Southern Comfort: if you are out there and see this, I just wanted to say “thank you” for you fair words the other day. (...and no, nukes, that wasn’t me, either. Check the ISP if you doubt me.)

Terkky K. : < ! if she feels you owe her an appology, then give her one, but this "lol" thing is old.> Umm, excuse me, but do you even bother to read what is going on here?!? I hadn’t mentioned that “lol” thing in the past week and a half, at the very least. I looked in last week’s archives to make sure. Nukes brought it up again, out if the blue. If you had bothered to try to backtrack the conversation, you would have *seen* that. I have not asked him for another apology, either. He has offered one, and I said “fine, that’s enough”. As for you other advice to him, I told him roughly the same thing waaay back. That it doesn’t matter what we think of him. Maybe he’ll accept it coming from you; I don’t know.
...Incidentally, I cannot began to say how amusing I found it that you misspelled the word “intelligent” in that sentence.

*Yells out to lurkers and such:*
People, if you are going to offer up your two cents in an argument, it is generally a good idea to find out how it started, and how it progressed. Rather than read, say, two days of posting and then call someone a jerk. Or whatever. People may* have legitimate reasons for their actions, and even if they aren’t posted, there are things that could have happened over email or IM that you missed. You can’t make decent judgments on what is being said right at the moment, especially if you don’t know what caused that response.

[* or may not.]

Speaking of apologies...see...it is the nicest people, those most willing to go out of their way to make others happy or more comfortable, that are the hardest to placate. Because their tolerance for BS is so high, once you do manage to piss them off...well...I’m not saying it takes much. You simply have to do something that they find inexcusable, and if you happen to hit one of their pet peeves...you get the point. It may even get to the place where they simple decide that your worth is so little that they don’t even think you are worth the depth of any emotion, especially not one as strong as “hate”. You’ll just be nothing to them, unless they are forced to deal with you or an issue involving you that would otherwise violate one of their personal codes. They may still be willing to help you out, but that does not mean that they like you.

Aaron: Oh. Well, I’ll try to get my journal back long enough to scan it, then. Basically, I was commenting on the fact that a line in it (referring to my wearing contacts vs. my wearing my glasses) looked very eerily like a line someone said in a post that was in close proximity to mine. They were almost identical, and the irony of it wierded me out.

Gunjack Valentine, and lain: (A couple months delayed, but better late than never.) I may be slow, but I *did* get the point, eventually. And, as much as I’d like to see how a game of “Who’s the bigger hypocrite?” would play out between us, I’m going to forfeit right here and declare you the winners, and openly admit to being one of the biggest narcissistic hypocrites on the planet. And for whatever it is worth, I *am* sorry. Oh yes; I am. My best wishes for your future lives.

And, just a small comparison; people who posted last week, vs. those who posted my first week here.
cyberklaw, Aaron, Doug Elder, Yggdrasil, lain "lurkingfish" iwakura, NukesGoBoom, Stephen R. Sobotka Jr, Daphne, Shadowrider, Oracle, Selanit, metaldemon, Alan Coleman Waltrip, Entity, Sevarius Jr, Brooklyn, Hyperion, Spike, Jan, Warpmind de InzanE, Christine, Fire Storm, finnula mccrory, Mooncat, Skippy The Klingon, Aingeal, Revel, Patrick Toman, SOROW, DPH, Robby, Lynati Kshudra, Siryn, Spacebabie, Niamhgold, Todd Jensen, HailerStar, Gside, Vashkoda, silvadel, Greg Bishansky, Fleur, Peter, DPH,Triglycerine, Emambu, Lady Mystic, V ,Coyote and Ravyn, Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel, Fire Storm, Zath.
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Daphne, Selanit, Jaden, Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky, Bronx, Shadowrider, Lady Mystic, Doug/Kitainia, Abbie, Lexy, XenaTrek, Nick, Robby, Ravyn (as Dame Corax), Entity, Spacebabie, Lady Arianna of Annwn, Todd Jensen, Taleweaver, David G.,mohammed, ghost, Skyrender, lain (as Nadia K.), King Snarf, jackal, Gunjack Valentine, Kyryn, Archwolf, Shinigami, Lynati, Revel, Aaron, Caliope, jenna, Guandalug la'Fay, Sevarius Jr., Tim P., Patrick Toman, SOROW, DPH, Christine, Peter, Spike, James Birdsong, Warpmind de InzanE, Emambu, Fire Storm, Mary Flanders, Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr.,Dreamie, Winterwolf, Gside, Wilek, Niamhgold, Coyote the Bando

I don’t know when my next post will be.
My travel plans are odd.
I just wanted to say “goodbye” to everyone, before I go, and to wish you all Happy Holidays. See you around.

...This is where someone else has to take over.

*Exits - 5:43 am*
Lynati “Why can’t my balloon stay up, in a perfectly windy sky?” Ashochyaan’h - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Kansas City, MO
Thursday, December 13, 2001 06:41:39 AM
IP: 67.202.17.39

Woohoo! One down, 4 to go!

Why is it that when I have to wake up early, I can't fall asleep the night before? No matter how tired I was, I couldn't sleep. Very frustrating.

The exam itself, though, wasn't too bad. Much more difficult than I was expecting, but still not too bad. The nice thing is that it doesn't matter. As long as I get the mean or better, I should be good for an A in the class. Of course, given that I said at the beginning of this semester that I'd be happy with all C's, THAT shouldn't matter either.

First problem: hydrostatics
Second problem: integral momentum conservation
Third problem: bernoulli equation with energy losses
Fourth Problem: rigid-body rotation
Fifth problem: open channel flow

In conclusion: I have no idea if I care or not. But best to study as to avoid failing.

Next up: dynamics. 2-sided cheat sheet. Better fill that up with sample problems.

replies!

Fire Storm: <<couldn't what is causing Mars' warming also be the cause of the Earth warming?>>: Yes, very good. Now join me in telling hippies all over the world to go !@#$ themselves ;-) <>: I used to go into the word dictionary manually and delete "corrections" of misspelled words. <<Have you...been beaten for impure thoughts>>: If not, maybe he should have. <<even the Underpants Gnomes can't figure that one out!>>: I don't see why. I mean, how hard is it to go from collecting underwear to profit? <<THEN you meet the character>>: I see so many ways this could go wrong... <<They can't make ANYTHING secure>>: Makes me wonder about the people who swear by windows. <<how can you rule on things you do not even know of>>: Good point. <<Why waste valuable military resources>>: Again..."its there". <<why take it away from that nice man>>: Because when I'm the ruler of Earth, I'll be able to take anything I want. <<Chico, California>>: Curses! There go my christmas plans!

Wilek: <<people these days have to be shocked out of their society-enforced complacency in order to see what's right in front of their eyes...into also questioning what society tells them they should think>>: Your obsession with thinking that sexual desires are society-driving is horribly backwards. Sex is a genetic desire. Its ingrained in our minds. I don't need to justify wanting sex. Its more significant for you to justify NOT wanting it.

Crzy: <<tropical tundra>>: What is a "tropical tundra"? Sounds like an oxymoron to me.

DPH: <<those scrolls should have had more security>>: I agree. Apparently the scary monk-assassins weren't enough. <<if Mr Reins is Miss Parker's father, when and how>>: About 30 years ago, probably by artifical insemination. <<Jarod could have by himself, but why bother sending it to Miss Parker unless Mr Reins wanted Miss Parker preoccupied>>: Because Jarod sure as hell wasn't gonna bring them back to the Centre. <<should anybody ever think I am standing under the holographic mistletoe, check again>>: Same here.

Cherry: <<when did a movie come out?>>: Monday night.

Spacebabie: <<My dad is now 100 percent Cancer free!>>: yay! <<when I feel like that..I take a bath>>: If I had a tub, I still wouldn't take a bath. <<You lucky dog>>: Sometimes. <<Good to know!>>: Wish someone had told me. <<its just that mistletoe tends to mutate in the CR>>: Into what?

Taleweaver: <<Skies in LA used to be clear for miles, everyday. Now it only happens when it rains or when the Santa Anas blow through. AND we're breathing it! Can't say that that is a good thing>>: I can't wait to move back. <<and knowing is half the battle. Yo Joe>>: Woohoo!

Sorow: <<we LOVE Jarod>>: Obviously. He's one of the coolest characters on TV. Of course I'm more drawn to Ms. Parker ;-) But then again, I would be.

Nukes: <<wassat?>>: Smart and Final? Any sort of mass-purchasing store/restaurant supply? <<who wouldnt be?>>: Anyone else. <<other females that have told me so!>>: One female has told you so. Hardly a resounding opinion.

Aaron: <>: Shouldn't that be "asses"? <It's a little-known fact that Angel is a big Highlander fan>>: Hardly surprising. An immortal that kick ass through the centuries, only to love and lose...Angel's role model! <>: We were talking about WILEK getting laid, actually. <>: Yes, I get the rabbit channel...no, I have no idea. <<Do you mean more often or with more volume?>>; I think she means more often.

Patrick: <<The rumor is that Bin Laden, or "B. Liddy" as he is now asking the press to call him>>: I have to know...where'd you get this? LOL.

Robby: I...hate...that...song. Could be because I hate Sandler with a passion. What a buffoon.

Sevarius Jr: <<what I have been presented with is a no-win situation>>: You noticed that too, huh? <<The Usual Gang of Idiots ™>>: They have a name now, do they? <<Perhaps it’s the company he keeps>>: I hardly think that judging Greg W by Crzy is fair to Greg. He doesn't hang out with her FREQUENTLY. <<Where have you been? I’ve always admitted that I enjoy the arguing for its own sake. Hmm…maybe I’ve never quite put it in those words>>: Actually, you have. People have just been too dumb to read into it. <<I’m still a bit sore about the near ambush of Josh in the S8 room last week>>: Ambush!? It was a f*cking gang-rape! ::is bitter:: <<I’m proud of you>>: You are trying WAY too hard with this chick ;-). Flattery is one thing...don't kill it.

The Wizard: <<thought I'd have time for a longer post>>: It amazes me that I refuse to study for finals if it interferes with posting.

Rodlox: <<it might end up looking like a biology textbook>>: Ah, I think I prefer the smut version.

Greg X: <<It's not the end of the world if she doesn't like you>>: Maybe he has a crush on her, and it IS the end of the world. <>: That's not as much of a "president" as it is a "dictator". <<most people don't>>: So true. <<okay exactly like the Ringwraiths>>: Alright I'll join. <<There goes my plans to melt the polar icecaps unless several billion dollars are delivered to me>>: No, I think that will still work. <<wouldn't you know it, I was right>>: I'm hardly surprised by that. <<put in a porn section instead of this>>: I shudder to think of what THAT would smell like.

Christine: <<illegitimate monkey baby>>: Does Becca know about this?

Gside: <<Now for that 8AM Friday exam>>: I've got one Saturday. What is the planet coming to when I have to be up before 10AM (already an unreasonable request) on a weekend!? <<At least I can do it in my sleep, and I probably will>>: I can see you nodding off now. <<Been there (Principles of EE), done that, remembered all my father's failed courses>>: Whenever my parents harp on me for bad grades, I remind them that I'm a brilliant engineer and they failed freshman chemistry. <<it would lighten the mood>>: Lighten!? With his disturbing imagery? <>: And that the former can be just as fun as the latter. <<The pigs she breeds fight in the sumo style>>: Sweet! <<Doesn't War feel left out?>>: He would, but he's busy in Afghanistan. <>: Maybe when I take over. <<it's a euphamism for small bit of female anatomy with a large concentration of nerves>>: I doubt he has any idea what you're talking about. <<And you enjoy it, don't you?>>: Who wouldn't?

Ugh I'm tired. That's what i get for waking up at 7AM. Need sleep.

...and scantily clad females, of course. Who cares if it's below zero outside?
- Linus Torvalds
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, December 13, 2001 02:15:59 AM
IP: 64.170.153.208

All classes done for the semester. Now for that 8AM Friday exam. At least I can do it in my sleep, and I probably will.

SOROW> <<I've made my very first Cs ever>>: Been there (Principles of EE), done that, remembered all my father's failed courses.

Wilek> Woot. You really should post more often. Not only would it be easier to respond to, it would lighten the mood.
<<Much as you're trying to accomplish the opposite, I think I'm becoming an influence on you>>: Nah, I propose that sex and vilence can exist in parallel in the same mind.
<<A sumo breeder of pigs, or a breeder of sumo pigs>>: The pigs she breeds fight in the sumo style.
<<Pestilence, Famine, And Death>>: Doesn't War feel left out?
<<But--ah, the progressive weirding of language>>: That bit was weirded a good while ago. Probably about when they invented cheddar.
<<WHEREWHEREWHERE?!!!>>: I'm assuming we're talking about Ganondorf in Smash Meele. I don't remember, and if I did, I probably would have linked. It's out now, so faqs and screeenshots should be easy to come by.
<< If I asked you'd tell me, and in the long run, I don't think I want that>>: Too late. It's a hentai manga, God of Sex^2, I'll leave you to reasearch it on your own time.
<<Frelling schiesse I've become predictable>>: It happens to the best of us.
<<Do you have that one?>>: I don't actually have any, I just know where to find it on the net. And if I remembered what you were referring to, I could look it up again.
<<Am I the only one who actually liked aspects of The Phantom Menace other than the duel and its musical accompaniment?>>: Nah, it's just that he seemed to be refering to the duel, more widely recognized as a good scene.
<>: I believe they will not get near one who knows the pleasures of the flesh.
<<<Socratic mode> Why?>>: I like the concept of lesbian orgies, and would enjoy it if they were held in public mroe often.
<<Not a concern, other than to make me wonder how they got that past the ESRB>>: Well, he is holding himself most of the time.
<<Here, have a weedwacker>>: That's all right, I have other ways of dealing with them.
<<All the time; some part of me is always formulating them>>: But are they performed by famous dead people?
<<NMDWK (never mind, don't wanna know)>>: With a good Japanese to English dictionary, you could find out for myself. I use one witht the JEDI interface on a server at a Kyoto women's college.
<<A good amount as in none?>>: Sorry, Zeus likes to get frisky.
<<Sorry, what? That dude one of my subcraft found in pieces near the R'lyeh?>>: Nope, it's a euphamism for small bit of female anatomy with a large concentration of nerves.
<<Had I been the cat's keeper, your pieces would still be screaming>>: We only did it under the keeper's orders.
<<What is FLCL, and where can I get it?>>: It's an anime, also known as Furi Kuri. I got it off Morpheus.
<<When was this? One of the Elseworlds?>>: I thought it was power armor he used in Miller's Return of the Dark Knight.
<<WTH?>>: Webcomic, pvponline.com. Have you heard the one about the cannibal who dumped his girlfriend?
<<Has an SUV sprayed you with dust yet?>>: Luckily no.
<<For some reason I pronounce it "de-ZANN">>: I like to pronounce the bookend vowels.
<<Eh?>>: A date that contains only the numbers 0 and 1 (ignoring the first two of the year).
<<there would be the small matter of getting the controller into the host>>: Couldn't you just up the broadcast range, and allow for external construction?
<<Well, it kind of left the porn stage after her head blowing off. At least, I hope it did>>: You have not seen what I have seen.
<<My gods, my name is become a proverb>>: And you enjoy it, don't you?
<<What's that, the stage adaptation of Chatterbox? (Don't ask>>: Oh, but I will. what is it?
<>: What, Knaw? I didn't think that anthropomorphic mouse assassins were that bad.
<<it's Japanese for 'little cat' or something like>>: As far as I can tell, chan is just a title of endearment, used more frequently than anything similar here.
<<a variety of bladed weapons pop out of devices on Wilek's wrists>>: You've studied Hidden Weapons?
<<Is there some peculiarity of the Polish language that one has to understand to get this joke?>>: Nope, just know that there is a stereotype of Poles being stupid.

I'm posting this now, I'll get to everyone else later.

And in celebration of Wilek's quarterly posting, you're getting a twofer, both from the movie Toys: The Closing of the Year, and Happy Workers.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:56:06 AM
IP: 165.230.240.115

Me again ...

P.S. -- for the record, the offer to hand over the editorship was not an empty challenge. I've heard from a couple of others now willing to take it over should the first-dibs be declined, so it is looking quite likely that I will be stepping down.

Avalon Mists has been a good gig but also a lot of work, and while I'll miss it I will be able to devote the extra time to Sabledrake and other projects.

I'd like to say thanks to those who've written me in encouragement, and assure everyone that my decision is based on many factors, not just recent events, though they may have brought it on sooner than anticipated.

Christine
Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:11:21 AM
IP: 64.24.186.83

Avalon Mists update > due to a goof on my part, a story was left out. Has now been added. "Secrets," a fanfic debut by Demonskrye, is now posted. Click or go to http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/avmists/dec01_ficdeb2.html

SJ > thank you for the reply. Your decision is duly noted. I'll be looking forward to the debut of your 'zine.

The Spam thing > don't know if I will use it in a story or not, but it does go into the Big Bin of Weird Quotes that I've collected over my years in the psych field. I think the best one, though, is still the peevish old woman cursing me "and your illegitimate monkey baby too!" (I was great with child at the time <g>).

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:05:36 AM
IP: 64.24.186.83

Lots to comment on tonight.

NUKES> What the Hell is your problem? So Lynati doesn't like you. I don't see why you're making such a big deal about it. In life sometimes people don't like other people, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for no reason... I know there are plenty of people I don't like for no real reason. It's not the end of the world if she doesn't like you. Get over it.

JOSH> <<Now THAT would be interesting.>> Oh yeah, the character of Spike was butchered. I hate what Joss Whedon has done with the character. Though the legions of "Buffy" fans would want me dead, Joss is not God! He sold out a great character, and my respect for the man has dropped considerably this season. The show should have ended with season 5, that would have been great. <<The hot chicks!>> Hell yeah. <<Colin Powell for president!>> I was talking about me, but Colin Powell will definetly be on my cabinate. <> Yeah, I can just see it now... "THE GATHERING USED TO BE A NICE FAMILY EVENT, NOW THOSE F*CKING BASTARDS HAD TO GO AND PERVERT THAT WITH THEIR CRAP TOO. THEY REALLY KILLED ANY ENJOYMENT I MAY HAVE HAD LEFT IN THIS FANDOM! I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY! BASTARDS!" Heh heh heh. Can't wait ;) <<See, I don't think the point of a prank is to cause damage (monetary or otherwise). Just to annoy, irk, or weird out.>> Yeah but this guy was a prick. <<Well, "fine" is a relative term ;-)>> True. But in my case when the aliens come, I'd feel safer with myself as one of the representatives of human kind rather than say, Barbara Streisand or Justice Scalia. <<Or maybe just because you have an IQ above 4.>> Yeah, most people don't.

GB> <<No!! Now you'll be selling flowers at airports after you shave all your hair save the ponytail>> No, I won't be doing that. Cause I have a God complex. My followers will get to wear armor covered by cool black robes, like the Ringwraiths... okay exactly like the Ringwraiths. Though instead of horses, they'll have black Harleys. <<How about a ticket with both a Republican and a Democrat. John McCain and Zell Miller sounds goodHow about a ticket with both a Republican and a Democrat. John McCain and Zell Miller sounds good>> Actually yeah.

DPH> <<<it takes a well balanced individual in the Centre to make a great leader> Was that a Pretender reference? If so, I don't want any of those people running the country.>> Since I don't watch the Pretender it of course doesn't. Basically I've recently realized that both Liberals and Conservatives are dumbasses, and a centrist would make the best leader. Incidently, I find myself becoming more of a Centrist these days.

WILEK> <<You too?>> Yes, me too ;) <<Satan doesn't do stuff like that because he doesn't *need to*...humanity is stupid enough to succumb to whatever temptations he has to hand out (witness Rugrats). O_o>> Sorry but any villain that needs to ask permission to commit villainy is not a villain at all. Lucifer is a dumbass, a mere amateur. <<You're kidding right? He doesn't die of something that leaves him in a million pieces, takes weeks to transpire, and would make a great pay per view special? ;P>> Hey, I didn't write it. <<Holy--!! O_o I want his tailor's number. NOW.>> I'm already in the process of getting ahold of him/her/it.

JEN> Global warning is bullshit??? There goes my plans to melt the polar icecaps unless several billion dollars are delivered to me. Damn, if only Al Gore were President, I'd have gotten him to pay me. <<(and what the hell is your issue with G.W.? You've never even met the man>> It's probably nothing, just something he does to try to get under your skin.

SJ> <<Perhaps it’s the company he keeps.>> Well wouldn't you know it, I was right.

::Looks at Galvatron and bursts into laughter::

I was just watching the news and Blockbuster is trying this new thing in a couple of stores with aroma scented videos. The Action Movies section would smell like gun powder, the comedy section would smell like bananas and the drama section would smell like roses. This is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. I don't want to smell this crap when I'm browsing through my local Blockbuster. This is a waste of money that they could be sing to get more obscure movies into their selection. Hell put in a porn section instead of this.
Greg Bishansky
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:13:37 PM
IP: 216.179.3.87

AVALON MISTS: well, I'd gladly accept the job of managing it.

mind you, it might end up looking like a biology textbook....

The Next Challenge: Explain Stone Sleep & Make It A Major Plot Point In A Story.

The Challenge After That: Explain How Gargoyles Can Fly With Such Small Wings & Make It A Major Plot Point In A Story. [or provide illustration].

Yet Another Challenge: Explain To What Class And Order And Genus Which Gargoyles Belong To & Make It A Major Plot Point In A Story.

if you don't want that....keep C.Morgan in her job!!!!
[btw, if you ask, I'll send them in to the Mists anyway].

Rodlox - [Rodlox @hotmail.com]
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:55:31 PM
IP: 24.4.252.27

**Computer, target NukesGoBoom and Gabrielle. Fire all available conventional weapons at targets until said targets cease to exist or can not be located.
A few seconds later, "Targets can no longer be located," replies the computer.**

For the record, winter does not officially start until December 21. I'm sure that others will gladly verify that piece of trivia.
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:20:42 PM
IP: 204.94.193.57

** Niamhgold enters briefly **

Curses...I'm still alive (barely), and thought I'd have time for a longer post. Guess not.

Aingeal: Did you solve all of your flash problems?

Gside/Wilek: Is it time, boys, to unleash Nicolai? ;) The dreaded plant hasn't been mentioned, but is due to come into topic rather soon...

Adios!
Niamhgold
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 09:53:38 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

<<SJ - once again you fail to put up OR shut up. ... not that I am shocked by that. >>

Well, what I have been presented with is a no-win situation. Let’s say I take over the AvMists editor job. Even if I absolutely busted my ass to put out a fantastic issue of the webzine, even if I did everything right, and the finished product was of good quality, I’d get The Usual Gang of Idiots ™ saying, “Oh Christine would have done a much better job!”, even if that was really the case or not. So, even if I had accepted the job (which is presuming that it was really being offered, and I have no belief at all that it really was anything more than an empty challenge anyway, but I’m cool with that), and I had done a wonderful job with it, I’d catch heat for it anyway. From you and others. Whether I deserved it or not.

And if I did not accept the job, which is the case here, I get The Usual Gang of Idiots ™ telling me “Ha, he won’t put up”. So, it’s a no-win situation. The dreaded Kobayashi Maru!!!

So, what I did was, I turned it around as best I could to a situation that benefits me – I will put out my own webzine. A sort of tribute to AvMists. You could even maybe look at it as what AvMists would have been like under my control. Or it may be a dismal failure, whatever, point is, I’ll just go ahead and play by my rules, thank ye.

<<(and what the hell is your issue with G.W.? You've never even met the man!)>>

Perhaps it’s the company he keeps.

<<Well, there you have it. SJ won't take over Avalon Mists from you because then he won't have anything left to complain about, and he just loves complaining for complaining's sake. But at least he finally admitted it.>>

Where have you been? I’ve always admitted that I enjoy the arguing for its own sake. Hmm…maybe I’ve never quite put it in those words, but that’s always been my implication.

<<Oh come on... if writing erotica is so easy, surely something as trivial as being lazy shouldn't be able to stop you. >>

You’re right. Just delay me a bit. I’ll see if I can change that in the future.

<>

Did I ever say that? That’s either a pearl of wisdom from me or a completely naïve statement on my part. I’ll have to see how the experiment results to give you definitive proof on which.

<< So come on, show us what you've got. I triple dog dare you. >>

Well, maybe you’ll get a pleasant surprise when the SJ webzine is published.

Spacebabie: <<Okay in regards to this Avmists situation I say lets keep cool heads. We don’t want a flame war, flame fat, flame acid reflux, flame belch, flame tobacco stain on the tidy whitey undies or a flame anything>> No, that comes after the webzine is published.

NukesGoBoom: <<if what happened was done by me intentionally, then she would be _completly_ justified. but, it wasnt intentional, and i dont think she understands that. but i agree with you, im gonna give up after this one. >> You do seem to be good at unintentionally pissing people off. (And before the jokes role in, the difference b/w me and Nukes is the matter of intent.)
Sorry, I’m still a bit sore about the near ambush of Josh in the S8 room last week.

And Galvie is back. Ah, all my friends return.

On a Galvie related issue, I think something is wrong with me, because despite my ideological differences with him, my respect for Aris is actually growing. Who would have thought that would ever happen? This brave new world we live in is one hell of a frightening place.

Wilek: TWO posts in one week? Two posts in one DAY??? You’re spoiling us. :) How I wish that would become a trend with you. ;)

SOROW: <<it seems that I'm getting my first disappointments of my college life. I've made my very first Cs ever and I'm pouting about it like a 5 year old. I have so much better standards for myself, so I've been whining all this time.>> While it’s great that you have set high standards for yourself, you could live and die by them if you’re not careful. A C isn’t that bad. Wait till you’re sweating the final exam, hoping you pulled an A, cause that’s the only thing that will save you from failing the course….not that I’m speaking from experience, ha ha. I’m proud of you! Getting…almost...straight As is quite an achievement. And a C can be easily overcome. <<Fortunately, my parents are wonderful and they're just happy that I didn't fail out.>> Of course they’re happy! You got mostly As, with just a lone C or so thrown in there. They have a lot to be proud of. <<My final conclusions: Psychology really is evil when I made As in all my other classes!>> Psychology really isn’t that bad. I loved it. It affirmed for me all of the various psychological disorders that I and my family / friends possess. ;)

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 09:49:26 PM
IP: 207.172.11.148

Just cause someone brought it up...

"Okay...
This is a song that uhh..
There's a lot of Christmas songs out there and uhh..
not too many Chanukah songs.
So uhh..
I wrote a song for all those nice little Jewish kids who don't get to
hear any Chanukah songs.
Here we go..."

Put on your yarmulke
Here comes Chanukah
So much funukah
To celebrate Chanukah
Chanukah is the festival of lights
Instead of one day of presents, we have eight crazy nights

When you feel like the only kid in town without a Christmas tree
Here's a list of people who are Jewish just like you and me
David Lee Roth lights the menorah
So do James Caan, Kirk Douglas, and the late Dinah Shore-ah

Guess who eats together at the Carnegie Deli
Bowser from Sha Na Na and Arthur Fonzerelli
Paul Newman's half Jewish, Goldie Hawn's half too
Put them together, what a fine lookin' Jew

You don't need "Deck The Halls" or "Jingle Bell Rock"
'Cause you can spin a dreidel with Captain Kirk and Mr.Spock- both
Jewish

Put on your yarmulke
It's time for Chanukah
The owner of the Seattle Supersonicahs
Celebrates Chanukah

O.J. Simpson, not a Jew
But guess who is? Hall of famer Rod Carew- he converted
We got Ann Landers and her sister Dear Abby
Harrison Ford's a quarter Jewish- not too shabby

Some people think that Ebenezer
Scrooge is
Well he's not, but guess who is
All three Stooges
So many Jews are in showbiz
Tom Cruise isn't, but I heard his agent is

Tell your friend Veronica
It's time to celebrate Chanukah
I hope I get a harmonicah
Oh this lovely, lovely Chanukah
So drink your gin and tonicah
And smoke your marijuanikah
If you really, really wannakah
Have a happy, happy, happy,
happy Chanukah

Happy Chanukah

Robby
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 09:47:31 PM
IP: 172.175.137.153

Re: Ice Age > I watched a special on Discovery Channel this past weekend called "Snowball Earth" that was talking about a controversial theory some scientists have that some untold number of millions of years ago, the ENTIRE planet was covered in ice from poles to equator. There was even a mathematical formula derived in the 1950s (when the nuclear arms race was kicking off) that calculates the theoretical "breaking point" at which an advancing ice age would become unstopable due to the fact that the more white ice there is covering the planet, the more solar energy is reflected back into space.

News update: So it looks like America is still anxiously awaiting the release of the latest world premiere video from Osama Bin Laden. The rumor is that Bin Laden, or "B. Liddy" as he is now asking the press to call him, has recorded his own verys special, personalized version of the classic song "Celebrate."
:: switches off the sarcasm and scampers off ::
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 07:00:32 PM
IP: 66.72.204.244

Taleweaver - exactly my point. The weather of the ENTIRE planet was altered... and not just by ONE ice age... there is estimated to have been about 50 ice ages on Earth, but that is just an educated guess. Did you have a point I missed?
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 06:37:57 PM
IP: 63.28.181.20

Took my American History final on Tuesday. To Quote Alan from Avalon "I kicked multiple ass."

Happy Hanukkah to all who celebrate it. Let us all gather ‘round, and sing Adam Sandler's "The Hanukkah Song." :)

GXB> <<does anyone know of the reason he chose that name?>> It's a little-known fact that Angel is a big Highlander fan. ;)

Gside> <<Just thought you might want to know that I am a glorious man. That, and I have fangirls.>> You da man! <<It's amazing to see how much the size of my classes increase for exams.>> Indeed. << Sluggy this time, but I brought it in here first>> Yes, you're the one who got me hooked on it. Although, I still haven't had time to sit down and read Penny Wang. I mean, Arcade.

Josh> <<That would explain why the possession of the scrolls and of Jarod grant the Centre so much power.>> It's official: Pretender had gone Eva on us. <<Kinky>> No, Leary.

Warpy> <<if I'm lucky, before Christmas, huh? :)>> Hopefully, anyway.

FS> <<"Judgment Night,">> I thought JN was in New York. <<WE arn't causing Mars's warming!>> Sure we are. All those probes we lose around it are crashing and heating up the atmosphere. ;)

Wilek> <<Pestilence, Famine, And Death (shut up Aaron ;P)?>> (Blinx) O-kay. <<<<PVP?>> WTH?>> It's a webcomic. www.pvponline.com <<What would this accomplish? Seriously, I'm curious.>> It's been so long, I no longer remember who we were talking about, but presumably he'd at least have less free time and energy to be annoying. (And yes, I do know killing him would stop him from being annoying permanently, and there have been people for whom I felt that would be a good solution too, but I didn't think the Dallas PD would understand. It's hard to prove someone was annoying enough to need killing after they're dead) <<now if only I knew what they were. Or maybe that's for me to decide...muhahaha>> Since Greg won't elaborate at all, go for it. <<Hm, there's a story here?>> Death: You could say that. It involves demon-summoning, soul-destroying weapons, and the price they carry. <<May I presume they were smart enough to refuse?>> I don't know. I'm sure the money was good, but I don't get the Playboy channel to know if it ever got made. Josh? Do you know?

Spacebabie> <<Hey lets see you post more than Wilek :)>> Do you mean more often or with more volume?

And now, off to Christmas shop...

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 06:34:49 PM
IP: 209.33.140.100

jan- <<but at least dislike me over a legit reason. I’m not siding with either one of you concerning this issue, she has every right to dislike you and I have rarely seen Lynati dislike someone for no good reason. You may not understand or know the reason, but she’s pretty stable in her thinking. *nodnod* >>

thats just the point. i totally agree with you. i think shes very stable in her thinking, but im just trying to offer one last glimpse of what REALLY happened. if what happened was done by me intentionally, then she would be _completly_ justified. but, it wasnt intentional, and i dont think she understands that. but i agree with you, im gonna give up after this one. 8(

wilek- << Clan Manhattan is Coyote's fic series rather than canon TGS. Highly recommended, BTW. >> lol. josh yelled at me for that alredy. yeah, i plan on reading it, when i finish tgs. got so much. oh, you get my vote for longest post ever, at least for as long as ive been here.

josh- << one word: Costco>> wassat? <<She's just jealous.>> who wouldnt be? i am. rich, cute (not in me opinion!! other females that have told me so!!!) of course im jealous 8)

spacebabie- <<Biopsy report. My dad is now 100 percent Cancer free!!! >> im happy for you. ive had people die of cancer on me, and its _not_ fun. at least your dad is strong 8)

gabrielle- <<Hey guys, it's winter! are the next seasons that were supposed to come out in Winter 2001 still coming out, or were there more delays? I'm really eager for the next Timedancer episode!>> i could say the same for myself.

so guys, how about it?

NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 06:26:52 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Hey guys, it's winter! are the next seasons that were supposed to come out in Winter 2001 still coming out, or were there more delays? I'm really eager for the next Timedancer episode!
Gabrielle - [Gabrielle@vampirediaries.zzn.com]
Chattanooga, GA, USA
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 05:23:47 PM
IP: 24.4.253.44

DPH- "If Sinclair hadn't been replaced by Sheridan, how would this story been changed?"

There are two possibilities. One possibility is that Sinclair goes back to the past in season 3. According to JMS this was what he "originally planned". However it contradicts JMS's original posts where he says that Sinclair was to be the main character in Babylon 5. The second and more likely possibility imho is that Sinclair does it twenty years after the defeat of the Shadows. This would explain the aging ,we see in Babylon Squared, much better and Sinclair leaving at the end would be much more fitting for that poem Sheridan reads before going to Coriana 6 since the poem is basically about an old Odysseus and his last voyage, leaving his wife and son and noticing how he has changed.

Note what JMS "originally planned" is a very ambiguous term since he himself has said that the plan is pretty loose like the Master Plan. We can see that when he decided to have O'Hare leave to up the stakes.
Galvatron
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 04:47:03 PM
IP: 64.24.13.35

cherry> movie as in 2 hour episode. It premiered on Monday.
Josh> No, I don't have AIM but I absolutely love Pretender. My mom and I used to watch it together and we LOVE Jarod!
SOROW
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 04:26:54 PM
IP: 129.116.38.151

Hiya CrzyD> Seeing you mention the Ice Age, it is an important misconception to debunk that the Ice Age doesn't mean that the entire world was covered in ice. Most pictures depict Cro Magnon man in furs hunting wolly mammoths hip deep in snow. A better way to look at it is to think of the climates as you know them and just move them south by a few hundred miles. Like here in So Cal, it wasn't frostbite territory, it would have been like Seattle is now.

As for global warming, it is alarmist to state Global Warming as a fact. We're talking about global weather patterns on a scale of millenia and scientists have only been recording the weather with any accuracy for a century. It's impossible to tell from so little data what will happen for certain. However, I don't advocate willful ignorance either. Skies in LA used to be clear for miles, everyday. Now it only happens when it rains or when the Santa Anas blow through. AND we're breathing it! Can't say that that is a good thing.

Now you know... and knowing is half the battle. Yo Joe!
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 02:16:03 PM
IP: 24.205.118.23

Babylon 4 was the main staging point for the minbari for the last time the shadows struck.

Had they not ported B4 through time the shadows would have come out of the last war stronger and this time around the B5 alliance wouldnt have had a chance.
silvadel
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 01:48:11 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

I got Ramen noodles for lunch again.

To everyone laughing about Global Warming>>>YOU don't have to constaly clean up hair that dogs are shedding, You don't have to worry that a dog might jump in the pool when it gets too hot...Hey I can go swimming...NEENER NEENER!

Biopsy report. My dad is now 100 percent Cancer free!!!

Replies

Wilek<<<Nice to see you again, and hey you posted twice.

Aaron<<<Hey lets see you post more than Wilek :)

Warp mind <<<:I dunno about the flavor of the green M&M's... but the story goes, as I hear it, that they're loaded with an aphrodisiac... ;) >>> I know, I was making a silly reference to a not too old M and M commercial. The Green M&M is female BTW.

Jannie<<<Flame war? Nawwwww, more like a flame fart. ;) >>> LOL You come up with such funny phrases.

SJ>>>Okay in regards to this Avmists situation I say lets keep cool heads. We don’t want a flame war, flame fat, flame acid reflux, flame belch, flame tobacco stain on the tidy whitey undies or a flame anything

Josh<<<After a few hours of studying today...I told my finals to go !@#$ themselves. I just didn't want to spend my whole night studying.>>> You know when I feel like that..I take a bath. With a lil aromatherapy bath salts mixed in and some candles buring. I get relaxed and ready to finish studying.<<<The nice thing is that I can do pretty poorly on these tests and still pass my classes.>>>You lucky dog. <<<Never tell your parents that you took an HIV test without having the results on hand>>>Good to know!<<<Yeah, after you were already eyeing all the single guys.>>> Naw its just that mistletoe tends to mutate in the CR.

Spacebabie
Orlando
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 01:37:58 PM
IP: 67.25.50.232

Christine > Well, there you have it. SJ won't take over Avalon Mists from you because then he won't have anything left to complain about, and he just loves complaining for complaining's sake. But at least he finally admitted it.

SJ > Oh come on... if writing erotica is so easy, surely something as trivial as being lazy shouldn't be able to stop you. I mean, according to you, a good story can be turned out in what, half an hour or so? So come on, show us what you've got. I triple dog dare you. There... if that doesn't do it, nothing will. Because as anyone who's ever seen "A Christmas Story" (airing every other day now on TBS all this month) knows, that's the do all to end all of dares.

Global warming > I especially love to laugh about this myth in January when it is minus 20 degrees out.

:: pulls up the collar of his parka and heads back to work ::
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:59:15 PM
IP: 64.81.9.210

DPH>> <"whatever happenned to Babylon 4 after it was sent back in time? If Sinclair hadn't been replaced by Sheridan, how would this story been changed?">

Years ago there was a comic miniseries by the name of "In Valen's Name" written by J. Michael Stracsynski and Peter David. I believe you can find a trade edition of it on Amazon UK, along with some of the other B5 comics, although the shipping price is a bit high to send over here to the states. The basic plot of the miniseries was the a week or so after the Shadow War, Sheridan and some others found Babylon 4 floating in space. He, Delenn, Ivonova, and Garibaldy went out to investigate, finding the station inhabited by these weird creatures and the station failing in orbit around an abandoned planet. Delenn finds some of Valen's records in the computer, and basically the station just crashes into the planet.

It was an interesting bit of continuity, but really only something for hardcore B5 fans. You might also be able to find the single issues in comic shop back issue sections, or possibly on Ebay.

--Alan
Alan Coleman Waltrip - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa/Midland, Texas
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:35:07 PM
IP: 24.116.93.43

Sorow< I've been totally out of the loop lately, but I love the Pretender..when did a movie come out? *L*
cherry
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:24:30 PM
IP: 198.234.250.162

**PRETENDER SPOILERS**
I'll start by listing facts. I would checked where the scrolls were found first, but Jarod and Miss Parker didn't. Frankly, those scrolls should have had more security: the journy to find them should have given Jarod and Miss Parker something vital to get access to the scrolls. It's apparent, according to the scrolls, Jarod has a destiny of some sort.

Now, for my theories. Jarod might be the one to dissolve the power base of the Triumvirate; atheistic or not, the Triumvirate doesn't want to take chances. I'm pretty sure that is meant for Jarod and Miss Parker to be married and that's why they are put on opposite sides of the fence.

Now for the questions: admittedly the latest Pretender movie provided more answers than questions, for once. However, if Mr Reins is Miss Parker's father, when and how? I'm still quite sure what Catherine Parker's plans were: to acquire those scrolls? If that was the case, it would explain why she needed to take Angelo and Jarod with her.

Still more rumblings: Mr Reins counted on Jarod and Miss Parker to find those scrolls? Jarod could have by himself, but why bother sending it to Miss Parker unless Mr Reins wanted Miss Parker preoccupied.
**END PRETENDER SPOILERS**

It's nice to see there are Pretender fans in here besides me.

<The Chico, California, City Council enacted a ban on nuclear weapons, setting a $500 fine for anyone detonating one within city limits?> How exactly do they plan on enforcing the law and isn't the fine a tiny amount too small, given the probably cost of finding the perp.

Imzadi - You wouldn't mind Mr Reins or Mr Lyle running the USA? Granted, USA ntional secrets couldn't be stolen, but everything would become a national secret.

I swear to guard the mistletoe from mutation. In the unlikely event that somebody mutates that hologram, tyhe hologram gets shut off. Don't bother trying to find that holographic projector, unless you wish to search space and time to find it.

Wilek - <Not if you know technology.> Hmm. That means I would be accountable to myself if I didn't need others for supplies. <We already can, near as I can tell, but it sounds awful. For realism...I'd say ten years.> You mean in around ten years, there's going to be strike of the voice actors guild?

Note: should anybody ever think I am standing under the holographic mistletoe, check again.

**BABYLON 5 SPOILERS**
Ok, I just saw the two part episode on SciFi Monday and Tuesday. I now have a question: whatever happenned to Babylon 4 after it was sent back in time? If Sinclair hadn't been replaced by Sheridan, how would this story been changed?

Too bad that the Shadows didn't know that Babylon 4 was built because of the war between the Earth and the Minbari. Of course, then it would have been the Minbari who sent their own space station back in time.
**END BABYLON 5 spoilers**
**END BABYLON 5 spoilers**
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:09:04 PM
IP: 204.94.193.70

Global Warming - What a crock of crap. I guess next they will say the Mammoth caused the ice age. The planets of this system are all on an eliptical orbit around the sun... that means that sometimes we are closer to the sun (READ: WARMER) and sometimes we are farther away (READ: COLDER). I mean, all it takes is a 23 degree angle of the axsis to cause the difference between Summer and Winter. We also have the pull of several other planets to slightly change our orbit around the sun... It wouldn't take much... just a little bit off here and there and it's the difference between ice age and tropical tundra. We haven't been studying weather long enough to know if we are going through a warm stage or heading into an ice age. Welcome to Earth, third rock from the sun.

SJ - once again you fail to put up OR shut up. ... not that I am shocked by that. (and what the hell is your issue with G.W.? You've never even met the man!)

Time to take kiddies to school.
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:59:08 AM
IP: 63.28.181.216

Quick replies:
FS> <<Question: Dude, What's up wit you? I mean, your distaste of anything sexual disturbs me.>> I should hope so--people these days have to be shocked out of their society-enforced complacency in order to see what's right in front of their eyes. <<Have you... been beaten for impure thoughts?>> <ROTFL> Nah, and boy howdy would I like to see someone try. I just reasoned my way out of the whole peer-pressure conspiracy and am trying to gadfly others into also questioning what society tells them they should think. :) <<Ok, I can't find this. What game and what movie?>> Earthworm Jim and its animated series.
Wilek
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 04:18:31 AM
IP: 168.143.112.8

http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/space/12/10/snows.of.mars.ap/index.html
Ok, the above article says that Mars may be warming. Now, if Mars is warming, couldn't what is causing Mars's warming also be the cause of Earth warming?
I mean, WE arn't causing Mars's warming!

Gside: <$!#@ directed quotes>
I know. I turned off about half the features in Word so I don't have to worry about that, such as auto spelling, :)'s and turning --- into a solid line.
<Hm...would this trip any security setup designed to intercept external connection requests?>
Only if there is not a backdoor in the program for this already.

Wilek: Question: Dude, What's up wit you? I mean, your distaste of anything sexual disturbs me. Have you... been beaten for impure thoughts?
<I've encountered profoundly disturbing reports of abandoned drones never in contact with a hive (I'm talking Nostromo sorts of situations) finding it in themselves to squeeze off one or two possibly queen-bearing eggs>
Well, SURE, talk about situations like that! In all the broods laid by MY hierarchy, I have never seen that happen. BUT I suppose that COULD happen.
<[Wilek smiles with beatific evil and gestures; a black, Borg-tech ridden tentacle slithers in through a dimensional portal and tears Mr. Disconnect apart with its talons.]>
DAMN IT! That is MY Borg-asar!
<Actually, my area of interest lies in what goes on between 3 and 4.>
Well, even the Underpants Gnomes can't figure that one out!
<Do you sell a copy of your entire save file? Is it more complex?>
Your saved file is on one of the games servers, so copying the save game is impossible.
What usually happens is that you get the weapon and sell it on eBay. THEN you meet the character that purchased the weapon on the map in the game world and give it to them.
<From what I've heard, (from Anthony Daniels no less, who wasn't exactly a fan of the little walking fish) he won't have quite enough screen time for that>
Damn. He should die violently.
<Eh?>
Binary day: Nov 11 2001: 111101, Jan 01 2001: 010101
<For a system that complex? There's a reason there's still not a working Sega Saturn emulator--like the X-Box, the thing had so many coding bottlenecks that it was almost impossible simply to make games for, let alone reverse engineer for emulation.>
But Microsoft having something like that? They can't make ANYTHING secure!
<<starts to ask, changes mind>>
Monty Python.
<Hmm...what is the nature of our agreement regarding Mars (I really should have written that down...)? Can we cooperate in the study of any interesting archeological finds?>
Total control for a period no less than 250 years. As for research, sure! I don't mind! Hell, having an outside team would be helpful!
<Offend her? Defend her? I intend to rend her. Twist her and bend her, till nothing is left, nothing is right, nothing is wrong>
Evil! I like it!
<nanites under the control of a pacemaker-sized central control and manufacture station>
THAT would work. The problem is having the nanites NOT under the control of a central processing system.
<It will benefit me to allow you to continue believing that>
Ah, but with every post, a piece of the puzzle is revealed and your location becomes clearer and cleared.
<I've never even heard of it before now. If it's anything like the games, I wanna see it NOW. Wonder if anything on DirecTV shows it>
Ok, I can't find this. What game and what movie?
<The laws are mine to change. Such things are my decision and such decisions will be made on my terms, else why would I even bother taking over?>
Ah, but how can you rule on things you do not even know of?

Imzadi: <Yeah, and ZIP doesn't count>
Too true, too true.
<No, its saccharine>
Well, yeah, that too.
<How about "its there">
Why waste valuable military resources on a country that poses no threat nor has any real strategic value?
<Oh come on, that doesn't count>
Yeah, I know.
<Of course, because www.earth.com will become my personal domain name>
Ah, why take it away from that nice man?

Trivia of the day:
The Chico, California, City Council enacted a ban on nuclear weapons, setting a $500 fine for anyone detonating one within city limits

Fire Storm
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 03:48:13 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

After a few hours of studying today...I told my finals to go !@#$ themselves. I just didn't want to spend my whole nght studying.

Wish I didn't feel so bad about doing that. Its as if I feel like I'm going to fail just for not studying. The nice thing is that I can do pretty poorly on these tests and still pass my classes.

Of course, I went right back to studying an hour later.

My mom was complaining about how LA is 59 degrees right now...I was so jealous.

And today I learned a valuable lesson: Never tell your parents that you took an HIV test without having the results on hand. Boy do I regret THAT maneuver.

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Green (purple?) Baron: <>: Really? Well I consider that statement to be full of flaws. Like how about the fact that everyone in a big city can't FIT on the public transportation system, no matter how good it is. <<I'm a virgin>>: I'm sorry. <<Actually Mooncat might enjoy being stalked by my late cat>>: Given Mooncat's paranoia, I highly doubt that. <<Heather tamed me>>: Pathetic. <<if only there was a way I oculd profit form a money-laundering scheme>>: If you can't figure out how to profit from a money-laundering scheme, then how on earth are you working for finance?

DPH: <>: Yeah so did I! I would have looked in the center of those tombs FIRST! <>: Wouldn't it be more like a prediction? Since they were written thousands of years ago? <<unless those scrolls foretell who is going to defeat/destroy the Triumvirate, I don't see how they are that valuable to them>>: Dude, they TELL THE FUTURE OF THE CENTRE. That sounds pretty useful to me. <>: I don't think you're supposed to see everything. Ever. <<it was strongly implied that Miss Parker's father was a non-Parker>>: Not at all. It was just implied that Miss Parker's father was the friend of Catherine's. But that's all it is: an implication. In Pretender 2001 movie, when the guy says "except that he isn't your father". I said "duh, we already knew that!" referring to that exact episode. But it wasn't proof, just circumstantial evidence. <<where was Ethan? Where was Miss Parker's newfound gift>>: Somewhere else. <>: I dunno, might be kind of cool.

Taleweaver: <<Encyclopedia Mythica and its gone>>: Gah! It is! Sonva...

Spacebabie: <<Are your sure that is wise with the misletoe>>: Yeah, after you were already eyeing all the single guys. <>: At least you HAVE heat!

Warpmind: <<That's around .79 caliber to you non-metric Americans>>: I'm a metric American! I'm an engineer! <<From Russia With Love>>: Bond rocks!

Nukes: <<aint it the sad truth?>>: Truth, perhaps. I wouldn't rate it as "sad". <<MULTIPLE people think you are cute?>>: So I've heard. <>: one word: Costco. <<she also calls you a whiny rich kid>>: She's just jealous.

FS: <<move your stuff to disk ASAP>>: Yeah, and ZIP doesn't count. <<Seeing you two IM each other...now THAT'S cute>>: No, its saccharine. <<Except maybe for target practice>>: How about "its there". <<you will meet some unlucky woman>>: I pity the fool. <<Volcano>>: Oh come on, that doesn't count. <<that page will be the last time you update it!>>: Of course, because www.earth.com will become my personal domain name 8-)

Jan: <<more like a flame fart>>: Like lighting your farts on fire? <<That’s not a flame war, that’s a catfight>>: I'm not sure if that insults me or not. <<Will there be a new series be resurrected from this?>>: I don't see why NOT. They keep making movies (I think this is the third). The characters aren't doing anything ELSE. <<Anna has decided that she wants to keep the baby after all>>: Congrats? <>: TOO MUCH INFO! <>: "You don't need to see our identification."

Revel: <>: I prefer "Jesus is coming! Everyone look busy!"

Christine: <<Just the word Spam gives me a hard-on>>: Please tell me you're going to incorporate this line into one of your stories.

Sevarius Jr: <>: I don't believe it either. <>: Bet that keeps the family jewels from operating effectively. << I’m not a “prude”, as I have been called>>: Too bad, my chances with Sorow would have gotten better. <<I’m not going to fluff your nut>>: What does that even mean? <<If I was editor, than I’d have to spend my time criticizing myself instead of you, and where would the fun be in that>>: LOL I'd like to see you try. <<not from ridiculing, of course, cause that never gets tired>>: Perhaps you could explain how that is not at all connected to maturity, because I'm having trouble with it. <<The Great SJ Erotica” [again, working title] hasn’t been written, because I’m just too lazy to do it>>: Well at least you know that you have a huge group of people already waiting to read it.

Gside: <<it hasn't happened yet>>: That's a good reason. <<they only like me for my ice cream>>: Hey, if they only want me for my cream, I can handle that. <<someone asked for my autograph>>: I wonder if I can get that if I wear my "I am Brad Pitt" shirt. <<do tentacle monsters have fungloves instead of funsocks?>>: Do they need them? There's always a willing schoolgirl.

Sorow: <<I've made my very first Cs ever and I'm pouting about it like a 5 year old>>: Eh, don't worry about it. As long as you graduate, that's all anyone cares about. Trust me. <<The Pretender movie was awesome as the show always is>>: You like Pretender!? POINT! Hey, are you on AIM or ICQ?

Wilek: <<I'm not exactly a molecular physicist, so I could be wrong>>: Fool! Never admit such things. <<They think we're merely lunatics. They're half right>>: There's nothing "mere" about us. <<A sumo breeder of pigs, or a breeder of sumo pigs?>>: Either is pretty scary. <<Am I the only one who actually liked aspects of The Phantom Menace other than the duel and its musical accompaniment?>>: Pretty much, yeah. <<this crazy blue guy stuffed it into a blender while singing in Latin>>: What does that have to do with a porno-sitcom? <<a healthy dose of disregard for your own survival>>: Since the villain WILL kill you because GOOD IS DUMB. <>: Oh sure, the ONE guy in here who is single and ISN'T interested in having sex with Sorow is "sweetheart". CURSES! <<Eh?>>: 11/11/01...last date with only ones and zeros. <>: I heard 5. <<Are they trying to assassinate him with an STD>>: I'm sure SOME whores are clean. <>: Can I have her first? I just need a few minutes... <<insanity is the highest virtue>>: No its not. <<When it comes to property rights, I am a Transylvanian count>>: You make the counts seem like pansies. <<I'm already trained>>: Not the kind of training we were talking about. <<The laws are mine to change. Such things are my decision and such decisions will be made on my terms, else why would I even bother taking over? And this being such an illogical and irrational law, apropos of nothing, serving no purpose, existing even outside a controlled setting, well, it's going to have to be culled, possibly along with the authority that allowed it to come into being in the first place. I would apologize for this necessity, but that would be like apologizing for the removal of a withered vestigial limb that's about to go cancerous. (Of course, if the touch doesn't have to be sexual, then things are already taken care of.>>: NO. We are not having any virgins ruling the planet. Period. <<And if I get hold of them, they'll be a funny smell in the attic>>: LOL! <<Kids shouldn't have porn. (Well no one should really>>: HEY! I like my porn! <<Anyone who is violated cannot be said to be 'satisfied'>>: Depends on your definition of "violated". <<Every rule has its exception>>: Even that one? <<A grain of paranoia is worth a desert of cleanup>>: A grain, yes. But a truckload? <>: Dude, you !@#$ sheep!? SICK! <<How in the world is that a turn for the better? Oh never mind, the answer wouldn't make sense anyway>>: Its better for me. <<Because not everything has anything to do with sex>>: Freud would beg to differ. <<on second thought, don't>>: LOL! Wasn't planning on it. <<How did this become popular?>>: Three words: People are DUMB. <<Thank you, now they're ALL OVER MY BRAIN>>: That, my friend, was the point. <<owing to the fact that tornadoes fit quite nicely into the bad things category>>: Tornados don't suck. <<ben-Yosef; not sure which>>: Ben Yosef. "Son of Joseph". <>: I'm sorry. <<Especially those of us who don't even have IRC programs>>: Download it. Most are free. << Vector trap>>: Sure that. <<Why in the name of Daoloth did Halo and Munch's Oddyssey (sp?!) have to be made only for the frelling X-Box>>: Because frelling MicroSHAFT BOUGHT BUNGIE. And they were such a good mac game company. <>: DVD-RAM? <<A console's biggest advantage over the PC is its stability and unity of design>>: Not anymore...welcome to X-box! <<WHEREWHEREWHERE?>>: apple.com/quicktime <<how does one add to infinity (at least, in a fashion that makes any difference>>: With limits. <<Is this why I can't find any White Wolf stuff at Borders anymore?>>: Yup. <<Could have done without the latter>>: WELL I COULDN'T. <<They don't have to mate to make more of themselves; they're machines>>: tell that to Data. <<American Mcgee's Alice?>>: Runs on VPC. <<Why do I not like the sound of that>>: Because its the world's biggest motivation to switch to Mac. <<Sentinel>>: Yeah, I remembered it after I posted. <<Even if it is true, isn't that illegal?>>: Not if it gets tacked onto the anti-terrorism bill that's moving through congress as we speak. <<Will current virus scanners detect it?>>: Not once you update to the latest version. <<Can a Mac download and store files intended for use with a PC, and transfer them thereto, even though it can't in fact use them? Are there external hard drives that work with both PC and Mac?>>: Yes. but why would you want to? Once on your computer, the virus will still run. <<humans don't have a perfect understanding of *anything*>>: Speak for yourself. <<Oh I would know what to do with one. Cover her in gasoline and toss a lit match>>: Riiiiight. <<I'm about as at risk for that as Mac users are for computer viruses>>: True. But I'd rather be sexually active than not. <<What would this accomplish? Seriously, I'm curious>>: It might change your outlook on some stuff. My friends and I are all mega-geeks, and as we started getting heavily involved with women, we had new perspectives to look at things from. Its...interesting. Not to mention fun. <>: Mistletoe is the spawn of Satan! <<raises eyebrow>>: South Park. <<It's 96% according to TheSpark.com. (Yes, Josh, I'm proud of that>>: Okay. <<What's that, the stage adaptation of Chatterbox>>: You don't want to know. <<just to ridicule human sexuality in general>>: You don't know enough about it to redicule it! <<Wonder what the new currency should be>>: Whatever it is, tell me now so I can start stocking up on it. <>: Guess that's a no. <<Please don't set up us the bomb>>: Dude, make your time. <<Who is their designer, Sisyphus?>>: LOL! <<You too?>>: I beat you both to it. <<one wonders how they managed to figure out the entire Tab A/Slot B process of having children in the first place>>: LOL! <>: Not necessarily. There are many types of sunglasses that are mirrored, you can't see in but I can see out. There could be a biological equivalent. <<Isn't that like curing brain cancer with a guillotine?>>: Hey, it stops the cancer from spreading! <<can those work through Netscape Messenger?>>: Not usually. They only really work through microsoft products. <<I'm thinking of ramming mine into an eye socket, just to see the reaction>>: LOL again. <>: iMac, then? <<this would cause the subject to flatulate constantly, making them pretty much impossible to live with>>: Not to mention becoming a fire hazard 8-) <<I'd rather not think about that>>: Quick! Don't think about gargs dropping giant poops in the forest! <<Ever seen one of the self cleaning ones?>>: I want! <<Is there some peculiarity of the Polish language that one has to understand to get this joke?>>: No, just realize that "bed linen" sounds like "bin laden". <>: I'm with you on tht one. <<Someone who works for Playboy has sufficient intelligence to be a fan of Mainframe>>: The way I see it, there's nothing brain-sapping about being paid to be naked. Hell, if I could do it I would. <<would this trip any security setup designed to intercept external connection requests?>>: You fool, this is exactly what I was talking about earlier, that you said reeks of urban myth. It's all part of the same software. <>: STILL LAUGHING...10 minutes after reading this!

Argh I was supposed to sleep an hour ago. Curse you Wilek, for posting before I go to sleep.

I suspect all fortran programs look like 'firsts'.
- Olaf Kirch

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 02:46:55 AM
IP: 64.170.153.208

Happy (belated) Thanksgiving! ^_^ Among the many things I am thankful for are cheese graters, Tim Burton movies, octopuses, Nintendo, and of course Gargoyles. ^_^

In other news...I finally got a PS2. I said I'd wait for the price drop, but my DVD player decided otherwise, may it rest in pieces. I would do to Mr. Disconnect the kinds of things that they held the Nuremburg trials for, but the PS2 has thus far been a pleasant surprise--Zone Of The Enders, Twisted Metal Black, Klonoa 2, and ICO have surpassed expectations. The REALLY cool games (such as Silent Hill 2 and Devil May Cry) I'm saving for Christmas. ^_^ Verdict: A close second to the Gamecube, and a more worthy purchase than I first assumed.
BTW, does anyone know how to configure the little booger to play DVDs in 16:9? I have a 16:9 display device, and I'd like to be able to use it to its full potential...

**REBOOT SPOILERS**

Wow. WOW. This kind of thing is why I love Reboot. 8D And here I thought Megabyte really was sincerely dead. Or shall I call him 1024 of Borg now? Love the assimilation tubules. ^_^
A million cybercookies to everyone who caught the Are You Being Served reference. ^_^

**END**

Yooper> <<Exactly when did the gargoyles come to life? On the date of Substantial Completion? (when the building is functional and the Owner can begin moving in, though there might still be quite a bit of construction going on) Or when the castle was absolutely completed, and all the workers were gone? If the last one, what would happen if a chunk of rock fell off the side and rolled into the ocean when they were taking it apart? Would the spell consider the castle complete then? What about all the building stones that have deteriorated over a millenium? What percentage of the original castle had to be above the clouds to break the spell?>> I think magic has more to do with perception, intent, and symbolism than substance. What the caster recognized as the castle had to be brought above what the caster recognized as the clouds. <<Dude, that is harsh.>> Quite. Hence, the harsh punishment. >:)

Lonny> Welcome back. See you next year, unless I decide upon a summoning. >:) <<can you name the source of the strange people who call out "One of us! One of us!" Hmm?>> The Clerks animated series? <<Unless I find a way to break out of HFIL before then...>> How much will it take to ensure your loyalty? <<Raditz is Radish, Kakkarot is Carrot, Vegeta is Vegetable, Nappa is a kind of cabbage. All Saiyajin names are based on vegetables>> Ye gods that's dumb.

DPH> <<How big was that last post of yours compared to Doug's normal posts (not counting the RP part)?>> I have no clue. O_o <<One quick question, was that virus natural or did some sinister race (the Shadows?) create it?>> The one the Markab had to deal with? I was never sure, although it would be interesting if it were in fact engineered...<<Where's Conspiracy Theorist?>> And Cyborg, Curly++, Dumlao, and Zath, among others, for that matter? <> Not if you know technology. ;) Live in several factory ships that mine ice and rock from the asteroids and reconfigure their molecular structure into supplies. Make them capable of self replication, and it will be centuries or millennia before you have to worry about supplies--and put in a holodeck and subspace communication facilities allowing access to TV, movies, and the Internet, with optional FTL ships (owned by you and replicable by the factory ships) to deliver books, DVDs, etc that aren't on file for replication, and there's your own little world right there. <<How long before studios can do a single voice recording and use it to create all words and phrases in the English language?>> We already can, near as I can tell, but it sounds awful. For realism...I'd say ten years. <<Also, I was hoping to see the invisible jet.>> How? In the rain? :P <<Wilek, any thoughts about this weapon's effectiveness?>> I'm not sure if nanites can hold enough potential energy, however great their numbers (unless there are so many of them as to clog various blood vessels, in which case there isn't much point to having them explode), for their explosions to acually be a danger, except perhaps in such extremely sensitive areas as the brain. But then, I'm not exactly a molecular physicist, so I could be wrong. <<There is an infinite location where there is no time. God resides there and from that location, all our history has occurred. This being created an alternate universe to our own where time runs at a faster rate and placed angels there. This being sent angels to adjust history for our benefit. This God denied access to looking at the future to try to prevent a rebellion. That resulted in one angel rebelling and bringing other angels with him. That angel and his followers were thrown out of that universe into our own.>> That is really neat. 8D <<is bad eyesight genetic? Prove it!>> Well, for the most part, eyesight depends on the structure of the eye, and the structure of the eye, being a physical aspect of the body, is mostly determined by the genes, I imagine. (Although eyesight can't be purely genetic--there are things like injuries and eyestrain to consider.) <<Raise your hand if you have posted an online resume somewhere.>> Remind me never to do that. O_o <<I'm suprised if the FBI/CIA doesn't monitor the CR. Why? We have 2-3 people here who plan on taking over the world.>> They think we're merely lunatics. They're half right. ;) <<Why do I get the feeling Babylon 5 was written as a novel with each episode being a chapter in a book?>> Because it was. :) JMS has said something to this effect, I think... <<If it should mutate>> Can't that happen only if it's hacked into? Hmm...

Gside> <<Strangle them with their intestines.>> Much as you're trying to accomplish the opposite, I think I'm becoming an influence on you. ;) <<Akari is a sumo pig breeder>> <blink> A sumo breeder of pigs, or a breeder of sumo pigs? <<actually starts to turn Ryouga's head>> <thinks fondly of a scene from Phantasmagoria> <<And one must be in response to a Screaming Orgasm.>> Pestilence, Famine, And Death (shut up Aaron ;P)? <<That's Chyna, not Chiana.>> I know. :) (Although Chiana's cool too. The Tzimisce in me finds her collarbone quite enticing, although I am more validly fascinated with her eyes...They make her look like an anime character come to life.) <<Tablesaw?>> Frell yeah! ^_^ <<The sharpness is directly proportional to the amount of time it was cheddared.>> But--ah, the progressive weirding of language. <<A reference to a reference of something bizzare, if I recall my thought processes.>> Ah. <> O_O WHEREWHEREWHERE?!!! <<No, just reverse my gender. You don't even need to make another copy of me.>> ... <<Reminds me of GoS^2 number 4. Granted, they were old ugly ninjas, and it doesnt sound like an actual Joketsuzoku technique, but the idea is still the same.>> <opens his mouth to say something, then changes his mind> No. If I asked you'd tell me, and in the long run, I don't think I want that. <<Maybe a Screaming Decapitated Head>> Frelling schiesse I've become predictable. <<You should read more hentai manga. I've seen it a couple times, once even in an incestual one.>> Do you have that one? There's a spell I've been dying to try...muhahaha <> So might I. Where'd I leave my railgun... <<If it's yes, I thought you were ungendered.>> I was under the impression he was a hybrid of some kind? <> Am I the only one who actually liked aspects of The Phantom Menace other than the duel and its musical accompaniment? Jar-Jar deserves everything you can throw at him, but I'm *not* going to let one misfire of a character ruin an entire movie for me, especially considering what a nice change of pace it was from the classic trilogy...hm, is the fact that it is unlike the classic trilogy the reason for its unpopularity? <> I thought they were herbivores? Are you a Delvian? <<here I was hoping she got into it, leading into a massive lesbian orgy.>> <Socratic mode> Why? <<Oh, and a warning for the guys: There is a period where you control a naked bishonen.>> Not a concern, other than to make me wonder how they got that past the ESRB. <<contemplations on tentacle hentai wouldn't hurt either.>> Here, have a weedwacker. <<Think you could lend any of that strength to my mother? Sorry, it's just a running joke here about the biles and hoardings she has.>> Sounds a lot like me--I still have practically everything I've ever owned, save for a few bits and pieces I managed to lose. <<You hear songs that weren't written?>> All the time; some part of me is always formulating them. <> I express this sentiment so much that I shall acronymize it: NMDWK (never mind, don't wanna know). <<At least there's a good amount of bestiality.>> A good amount as in none? <<After we figure that out, all we need is mind transfers>> My gods I hope that happens soon. <> Hee...I've got to play more Silent Hill, by way of research. <<The acronym stands for Little Man in the Boat.>> Sorry, what? That dude one of my subcraft found in pieces near the R'lyeh? <<there is a certain humor in bestiality>> I'm thinking, Sam Peckinpah's 'Salad Days'... <> Had I been the cat's keeper, your pieces would still be screaming. ;) <<Gainax is utterly insane. What were they smoking when they did FLCL, and where can I get it?>> What is FLCL, and where can I get it? :) <<You can find a variety that linit themselves to one tentacle per orifice.>> Like that's much better? That's like the Catholic cannibal who only eats fishermen on Fridays. The best would be no tentacles or orifices. <<<<Batman in power armor would kick ass>>: He did.>> When was this? One of the Elseworlds? <<Beaver, did you summon a tentacle demon again?>> "Yeah mom, but this crazy blue guy stuffed it into a blender while singing in Latin." <<PVP?>> WTH? <<Just thought you might want to know that I am a glorious man.>> Has an SUV sprayed you with dust yet? <<do tentacle monsters have fungloves instead of funsocks?>> They won't have fun at all when I get hold of them. <<I'm not quite sure about de Inzane>> For some reason I pronounce it "de-ZANN".

Daphne> <<what does it take (short of actual powers) to be a superhero? anyone?>> Frankly, the minimum you need to be a superhero is strong yet sleek armor, a knack for character design, lots of gadgetry, rather good martial arts skills (see Batman), and a healthy dose of disregard for your own survival. Still, kewl powerz and a twisted background help. <<wow, you remembered the title and everything?>> It's amazing the things that stick in my head. ;) (Especially considering the things that fail to...) <<That's right, ladies and gentlemen, I have once again lost an election. Haven't won one to date.>> Geh. :/

SOROW> <<Hey sweetheart! I don't think I've talked to you in quite a while. Thanks for the encouragement, you've always been like a big brother.>> I try. ^_^ And happy birthday! ^_^

Fire Storm> <<Does hermaphrodite porn count? Or Transexuals? Or species that don't have a set male and female?>> Yes on all counts. <<Oh, but you will! It is a rite of passage.>> I never did, and they've yet to start anything. Besides, I doubt I'd survive the procedure...<<The drones have no ability to lay eggs or otherwise give birth to new children>> That's...kind of not what I've heard. I've encountered profoundly disturbing reports of abandoned drones never in contact with a hive (I'm talking Nostromo sorts of situations) finding it in themselves to squeeze off one or two possibly queen-bearing eggs...<<Oh no! You killed Dr. Naughtius! Now he may never be able to control the tentacle monsters!>> He hasn't for quite some time. [Wilek smiles with beatific evil and gestures; a black, Borg-tech ridden tentacle slithers in through a dimensional portal and tears Mr. Disconnect apart with its talons.] <<1. Play game 2. Play some more 3. Get lucky and get a rare and powerful weapon 4. Sell it on eBay!>> [A headache thunders across Wilek's cerebral cortex.] Actually, my area of interest lies in what goes on between 3 and 4. Is every new weapon saved in a separate file? Do you sell a copy of your entire save file? Is it more complex? <<For him! He was able to FEEL what the monster felt!>> Then it's a good thing I arrived to give those creatures some purpose and discipline. <<Cthulhu! Tentacle Attack!>> ...Where's a weedwacker when you really need one. <<You should see the videos on the discovery channel.>> I have, and more besides. I'll be seeing them in my nightmares, I'm sure...I'm really starting to doubt that a world that could harbor such things could be worthy of my rule...or worthy to exist... <<"I only said it! You thought it! It's your fault, not mine!">> Sometimes that's true, others... Intent is everything. <> If you're that eager to die, I could simply arrange a trap. ;) <> <Kosh voice> You are not ready. You would not understand. <<You can never have enough kink! ;)>> <Kosh again> Your belief does not enter into it. You should be informed. :P <<Still better than Jar-Jar. Who had better die brutally in Episode 2.>> From what I've heard, (from Anthony Daniels no less, who wasn't exactly a fan of the little walking fish) he won't have quite enough screen time for that... <<last binary day for a little over 8 years.>> Eh? <<There is bound to be emulators VERY soon.>> For a system that complex? There's a reason there's still not a working Sega Saturn emulator--like the X-Box, the thing had so many coding bottlenecks that it was almost impossible simply to make games for, let alone reverse engineer for emulation. (I think that's why Nintendo's so uptight about piracy--their systems are extremely efficient, therefore fairly easy, from what I've seen, to reverse engineer.) <> <starts to ask, changes mind> <<Act now and save! ;)>> Hmm...what is the nature of our agreement regarding Mars (I really should have written that down...)? Can we cooperate in the study of any interesting archeological finds? <<The profit margin and benefits for a Xbox are a lot higher then they are for a PS2>> Eh? I heard the freller won't even begin to turn a profit until 2004... (Freller? Sounds like a pastry of some kind. Geh.) <<Basicailly, some of the members of the board are gathering money together to buy Coa a whore.>> Are they trying to assassinate him with an STD? <<What an excellent combination! :)>> Yeah-- you can open the floodgates to drown the hookers and potheads. >;P <<Thou shall not offend Britney Spears!>> Offend her? Defend her? I intend to rend her. Twist her and bend her, till nothing is left, nothing is right, nothing is wrong...<<But DNA specific is the hard part.>> Hm. My ficverse has something along the lines of these kinds of nanites; a parallel immune system composed of nanites under the control of a pacemaker-sized central control and manufacture station, with all the 'species' of cells in the user's body on file, and set to destroy anything that doesn't match up--germs, cancerous/virally infected cells, etc. If the sensors and controller were refined...of course, there would be the small matter of getting the controller into the host... <<Ah, the people who think that are just crazy!>> Careful, you're in a place where insanity is the highest virtue. >:) <<Well, if homosexuality is so wrong, why wasn't Rome destroyed earlier? And why aren't some priests, who are the MESSANGERS of god, killed?>> If He just went around smiting people left and right, it would stifle free will, the offenders wouldn't be able to stick around to bear the full consequences of their actions, and people like Madelyn Murray O'Hair would eventually put two and two together and start a riot or something. <<We just don't know the EXACT location of Wilek (Within 20 miles, yes>> It will benefit me to allow you to continue believing that. >:) <> I'm in favor of making it legal to use a burglar's entrails as garlands. Seriously. When it comes to property rights, I am a Transylvanian count. <<He must be trained.>> I'm already trained--I can swing a fishing gaff like nobody's business, and oh the magic I can work with a spoon and a corkscrew. And there are always such classics as the cheese grater and the power drill. <<YES! That was one VERY f$ked up show, wasn't it? I LOVED it!>> I've never even heard of it before now. If it's anything like the games, I wanna see it NOW. Wonder if anything on DirecTV shows it... <<True, but he must know.>> Illumination's price, it is your sleepless heart, and the gift of voice that sets you free...<<If he intends to rule anything, he must know the touch of a woman. It's frigging LAW!>> The laws are mine to change. Such things are my decision and such decisions will be made on my terms, else why would I even bother taking over? And this being such an illogical and irrational law, apropos of nothing, serving no purpose, existing even outside a controlled setting, well, it's going to have to be culled, possibly along with the authority that allowed it to come into being in the first place. I would apologize for this necessity, but that would be like apologizing for the removal of a withered vestigial limb that's about to go cancerous. (Of course, if the touch doesn't have to be sexual, then things are already taken care of.) <<Currently: Ameritech DSL. I am getting rid of it and switching to Speakeasy DSL.>> I currently have Earthlink dialup and am desperate to get rid of it. My Internet service has been shot to schiesse ever since those frellniks bought my ISP. <<SCHOOL GIRLS BE AFRAID!>> They won't have to be once my latest project comes online... <<Hippies were not a year, they were and are a state of mind.>> And if I get hold of them, they'll be a funny smell in the attic. <<And so what if they DID download it?>> Because they were KIDS. Kids shouldn't have porn. (Well no one should really, but especially kids.) 'Cause, eww. <<And soon no skirted schoolgirl was neither Unviolated, innocent, nor unsatisfied>> Anyone who is violated cannot be said to be 'satisfied'. Molestation leaves minds and often bodies in ruin, and anyone, nonterrene entity or otherwise, who performs it will be consigned to the worst fates my demented mind can formulate. <MUHA>

Imzadi> <> Isn't that the exact same second that *you* become *their* ex? ;P <> Perhaps it's Jerry the Giant Telepathic Rat? (Where's Foxglove got off to?) <<Damn you!>> [Wilek remains unharmed as the energies of the proclamation of condemnation dissipate from the walls of his Reflect spell.] <<You don't understand. EVERYONE does the purple onion.>> Every rule has its exception. <<think your fears about the real thing are inflated.>> A grain of paranoia is worth a desert of cleanup. I have a 0% chance of ever acquiring an STD. So few of the simple stupid sheep outside--the mundanes--can make this claim. <<You'd win on single length, but I win on total weekly content.>> Yup. <<It got more pornographic?>> How in the world is that a turn for the better? Oh never mind, the answer wouldn't make sense anyway. <<Isn't that how you spend every month?>> Well, more so than usual. <<Isn't that the point?>> Not if you don't want to die of salmonella or whatever diseases cheese mold carries. <<Why is it unfair?>> Because not everything has anything to do with sex. As nearly as I can tell, the human mind is simply in the habit of connecting anything and everything with sex whether it belongs there or not (have a look at the sneeze fetishists sometime...on second thought, don't). <<Even then. Just find out where they live and nuke 'em.>> More effective, but less...personal. <<<<Will MusicMatch Jukebox work?>>: Nope.>> Frell. Hm...and the only alternative that I can use is the much less stable Windows ME. Geh. >:/ <<Maybe that's because WE'RE not perfect.>> EXACTLY. And we'll never make any progress unless we take control of ourselves and our environment. So far, all we've done is move the dirt (literal and otherwise) around a bit. We have to hack right into the operating system--DNA--or our world will never really be OURS. <<The fourth race.>> <epiphany> Oh...my...GODS...<<Um, you haven't been using it correctly.>> Define 'correctly'. You can't. I doubt anyone can. We can only hope that we choose the right paths. <<They require not washing your hair for many moons.>> Ew. How did this become popular? <<Brother!>> Heaven help you. >:) <<Excellent counterpoint. But Fleur is in Australia>> I know; my point was that not all evil originates in America. ;) <<HEY! I, along with most of the people in here who've had it, happen to like it!>> Which doesn't make it any less of a hazard. <<TMI stands for Too Much Info.>> Ah. <<Most as bombs, though.>> That's the idea. <<No, Gside, not the sexylosers kind!>> I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. <> I can, if it's a really twisted kind of cute. <<But females can orgasm till their ears bleed>> Interesting image. [The image proceeds to evolve into the woman's head blowing off and sinking into the ground and becoming the seed of an evil tree that bears little heart shaped fruits, and her limbs blowing off and her torso shooting blood from the stumps like a rocket, and spinning around at high speed.] Just when I thought there was no porn I could possibly enjoy. Well, it kind of left the porn stage after her head blowing off. At least, I hope it did. <<Then its the equivalent of yelling "quick, don't think about polar bears!" ;-)>> Thank you, now they're ALL OVER MY BRAIN. Fortunately I like them. :) <<when obviously only GOOD things "suck".>> I submit that you are mistaken, owing to the fact that tornadoes fit quite nicely into the bad things category. <<how did Demona know that the gargoyles would sleep until the castle rose above the clouds? She didn't have the grimorum, and she wasn't around to hear the spell being cast.>> I suspect she spent a lot of time and effort trying to undo the curse (possibly giving the castle its haunted reputation); my theory is that she learned about the curse from using magic to inspect the sleeping clan. <<Do we know for a fact that Jesus' did?>> I'm almost certain that it didn't. I think His original birth name was Yeshua bar-Yosef (or ben-Yosef; not sure which), or something along those lines. (I could be wrong though; that's kind of an extrapolation from what I know of the Hebrew version of His name...) <<I'd much rather fight my computer to get online>> I don't have to fight my computer to get online...I have to fight my ISP, ever since frelling Earthlink bought it. <<The only problem is that IRC doesn't work very well for people who have no idea what they're doing when t comes to computers>> Especially those of us who don't even have IRC programs. O_o <<What is my sex doing there?>> After I lopped it off in your sleep, I threw a dart at a map of the world, and <shrug>. <> Well of course not; nothing exists until it's created. And I'm working on it... <<And you can't touch me because I have some stupid silly hi-tech device that prevents you from damaging me>> Vector trap? <> Me too. Why in the name of Daoloth did Halo and Munch's Oddyssey (sp?!) have to be made only for the frelling X-Box. >:/ <<You want to back up safely? Get another hard drive (preferrably an external one)>> I want to sometime; I have wayyy too much to back up to a CD-R. <<Isn't it terrible that a GAME CONSOLE should crash?>> Frell yes. A console's biggest advantage over the PC is its stability and unity of design. <<New Star wars trailer on apple's site.>> WHEREWHEREWHERE?!! ^_^ (Pity the poor gargie who can't download from FilePlanet...) <<Why doesn't anyone post pics of themselves on their websites?>> In my case, it's because dragging my 'real' life into my Internet life would be like bringing your ex-wife who tried to castrate you with a broken Coke bottle on your honeymoon with your second wife who is a billionaire genius massage therapist/bodybuilder/martial artist who can read Japanese. :P <<Isn't that what happened to Jesus?>> Not quite, since He was infinite in wisdom and power in the first place (at least in my system of belief), and how does one add to infinity (at least, in a fashion that makes any difference)? :) <<Some acid-tripped teenager went on a killing spree after playing D&D, and now Barnes and Noble won't sell the books.>> Is this why I can't find any White Wolf stuff at Borders anymore? <grr...> <<Heavy Metal 2000 rocked. It had violence and hot naked chicks.>> Could have done without the latter, but at least it wasn't as pointless as the original, and there was a cool villain. (And I found the heroine forcefully reminiscent of my ficverse's version of Elisa, when she wasn't being shown naked for no reason whatsoever...) <<They go potty as often as the characters on Star Trek.>> As often as everyone else, it simply isn't shown. ;) <<Yeah, but before that you were regular. So "wilekian" is the adjective of choice.>> My gods, my name is become a proverb. O_o <> Certainly not you if I respect my intellect. <<Please tell me you paint them.>> Why bother? The plastic is colored right in the first place, and the way I paint, I'd ruin the poor things. <<You only need two, then they can mate.>> They don't have to mate to make more of themselves; they're machines. <> I don't know; I would consider miracles a touch different from magic... <> American Mcgee's Alice? <<Windows now has that glorius product activation.>> Why do I not like the sound of that. O_o <<But how is that any different (or rather, "satanic") when compared to some wizard turning a kid into a frog?>> Because, from what I've seen, miracles are simply products of divine will and are only possible through divine will, while mortal magic has to go through channels of manipulation of various energies and is entirely a mortal thing (well, then there's the Fey...I think their magic has to do with their energy structure, but either way, it's throwing energy around through established channels)--magic has much more in common with science, from what I've seen of both, than miracles. (I have to admit, I'm not sure why such magic would be banned in the Bible, unless people were getting instruction in it from demons or something. Although I have my doubts as to whether it *is* banned...the original Greek word that the Bible uses for 'sorcery' is 'pharmakeion' or something to that effect, which modern man would associate with the use of recreational drugs.) <<They are Nokkar's race from the episode...oh crap, can't remember what its called.>> Sentinel. I hope to see it at some point; I desperately need it for research. <<Hey, and doesn't Christianity forbid homosexuality?>> I've heard that the only kind of homosexuality even referenced in the Bible is the pedophilia that was in common practice in ancient Greece, which of course is roundly condemned. <<In other news: the FBI is developing a virus that will go on EVERYONE'S computer>> This smacks of an urban legend to me. Even if it is true, isn't that illegal? <<virus software companies will purposely leave them out so they can continue running>> Will current virus scanners detect it? <<And how does the virus get in? By exploiting holes in microsoft software, of course.>> <thinks...> Can a Mac download and store files intended for use with a PC, and transfer them thereto, even though it can't in fact use them? Are there external hard drives that work with both PC and Mac? <<Only if she dresses like she did when she was a vamp.>> Doesn't sound very Christmasy. <<If God is neither confusing nor contradictory, how could so many different religions have come from his own word?>> Because the people who interpret it are confusing and contradictory. Ultimately, any church is a human institution, however divinely inspired its holy texts, and humans don't have a perfect understanding of *anything*. <<Okay so if God is all powerful, and all knowing, and if we have a free will, then god knew we would do things that displease him. Is God some sort of Massochist?>> My theory: He allowed the fall at Eden to happen because He wanted a people who would follow Him because they wanted to, not because they didn't know any other way, and since free will requires the potential for evil, the concept of evil had to be allowed to be introduced into human thinking. <<You're assuming that Wilek would know what to DO with one.>> Oh I would know what to do with one. Cover her in gasoline and toss a lit match. That's if I'm feeling *nice*. <<But we all know what she was doing under her friends.>> Getting her back broken and setting off at least several weeks of writhing misery? :( <> You underestimate the power of names. A name, even one given at birth, is nothing more or less than a mask, and different masks are, when used correctly, different people. A name, essentially, is a filename on the hard disk of others' perceptions of us. That's the beauty of the Internet--through masks, we can be what we really are instead of what that out there <jerks a thumb at the real world> has decided we ought to be. The potential for abuse exists, as has been so recently discovered, but such is true of any great power or beauty. <<The artist? For GURPS sex!?>> Just to see how people would react, I'd prefer J. Cobb with that task. <cackles insanely> <<Went down to the health center for a free HIV test>> I'm about as at risk for that as Mac users are for computer viruses. :) <<That boy needs to get laid more often.>> What would this accomplish? Seriously, I'm curious. <<Seriously...what ELSE would one use a computer for?>> ...I don't even know where to START... <<Okay, this was the trippiest Pretender ep I've ever seen. It would have made a good show for Halloween, I think. It had ghosts of children laughing children-of-the-corn style, wacko religious stuff, scary monks that kill people, and a host of other...bizarre things.>> GAH, and I didn't see it! >:( <<runs and cowers in the corner, as far away from the cursed plant as possible>> I don't think a hologram could cause much trouble. Besides, my own Nicolai is OK. I think he's heading up a resarch team on Fomalhaut III. <<From the underpants gnomes, where else?>> <looong pause> <raises eyebrow>

Kathy> <<Dorthy Fontana said it was because Gene Rodenberry rewrote every single script to make them less conflicted and more uplifting but she seemed kind of bitter at the time so take that statement as you will.>> Actually, from what I've heard of his ideas, it sounds rather characteristic of him. If some of his concepts had been translated to the screen unchanged, I honestly don't think Star Trek would ever have deserved to become popular...if I remember correctly, his ideal Star Trek would have been completely without conflict, or at least with much less than there ended up being...

Niamhgold> <<Ewww>> My celebratory orgies of violence are, indeed, not for the weak of stomach. ;) <> You must let me know when it's finished. ^_^ <<You should *always* be able to use a truckload of whipped cream. Unless your purity score is higher than mine ;)>> It's 96% according to TheSpark.com. (Yes, Josh, I'm proud of that. :P) <<Not to mention that they have auditions for the Vagina Monologues here.>> What's that, the stage adaptation of Chatterbox? (Don't ask. For the love of all the pantheons, just don't ask. O_o)

Fleur> <<If anybody's got a luck demon handy, make it spit in my direction, please.>> I'll see if I can arrange for something a touch better than spitting. <<Not quite. The kind I'm thinking are created by twisting and teasing innocent, inoffensive hair into tangled clumps, and then not washing it, for a couple of months at least. It's not a proper dreadlock until it's got bits of plantlife sticking out of it, and you can scrape the dirt off>> Again: Ew. <<oooh! Where do I sign? :)>> I'm a big believer in verbal contracts. :) Now if only I can figure out the mechanics of weather changing without frelling up the planet's climatic systems for good... <<Have I told you yet that I really like how your mind works?>> You have now, and thank you. :) <<wonder if you boil it out, like when you boil water?>> It's possible. I'll have to try that...<<I've got all this 'Science of gargoyles' stuff on my homepage (don't ask. I'm a science geek, and I get bored in class... let's just leave it at that ;)), filled with all my babblings on gargoyles biology and evolution, and your description of Eyrie supporting structure would fit right in.>> O_O <checks out> Very, very intriguing...you available for consultation? <<Don't you know it's dangerous to name them?>> It's more dangerous not to--it leaves them undefined, free to take any form, harass you from any corner, and makes them nigh-impossible to control, an inchoate mass of voices. ('Member what I said earlier about names and masks?) <> Ach du mein schiesse. O_o My words of comfort seem so inadequate, but I offer them regardless...<hugs you in whichever fashion won't aggravate your injuries> <<My sister was in a car accident, my dad discovered he's got not one, but TWO hernias, my best buddy got robbed, I'm now a couple of millimetres shorter because one of my vertebrae got mushed, my brother quit his job,.... I EXPECT SOME SERIOUS GOOD STUFF FROM LADY LUCK SOON TO MAKE UP FOR ALL THIS, DAMMIT!!!!>> Ye gods. O_o
BTW, is it currently unusually hot or unseasonably cold in Australia just at the moment? Either would explain much about what's going on up here...

SJ> <<I've actually thought of writing an erotica fic before, just to show how COLOSSALLY easy it is.>> I've played with an idea along these lines, just to ridicule human sexuality in general, but well...I think that an erotic fic springing from THIS mind would cause everyone within five miles of its reader to commit suicide and its author to be assumed bodily into Hell. <<The fic would get me banned, because of certain characters in it, and the actions they performed.>> E-mail. Now. O_o <<My guess is that you'll only have to wait maybe a year, and it'll be gone all by itself.>> Here's hoping...<<You know what I loved about Fight Club? The little things. Like how Tyler kept popping up on screen one frame at a time BEFORE he was every introduced in the movie.>> That was indeed fascinating...<<You think that's bad? Try getting porn advertisements in the MAIL. How the hell they tracked me down….er, I mean, how they got my address in the first place…I'll never know. But it makes it difficult to look at the mail carrier's face every day.>> I am Jack's divine wrath. Tell me where they are. <<How is this possible? Unless their queen reproduces asexually?>> Yup, born pregnant. <<As I said, I am king of useless wrestling trivia. Perhaps sometime I will explain to you the Honky Tonk Man's refusal to drop the Intercontinental Title, leading to the first world championship title for "Macho Man" Randy Savage. Oh, it's just fascinating.>> Do tell? <<My bank account is looking anemic. Damn Todd McFarlane! Between his latest Movie Maniacs series, as well as the Clive Barker line, I'm dropping cash left and right!>> Ah, yes. I must acquire the Blair Witch and Evil Ash figures. <<You either like Lexx or you don't. I'm not that big of a fan. I liked the original films. The next season didn't impress me, but then the season after that wasn't that bad, since it had more of a storyline. My recommendation: if you can get in on the show at the ground floor, okay, if not, stick with Farscape.>> Ah. Duly noted. :) <<o.O My God! Someone who doesn't get the appeal of the Stooges? That is a tragedy.>> Well, from what I've seen. Is something going on under the surface that I've missed? Bastion and Sinister stuff> Ahhh...very, very interesting. I'll look this up... <<tempting, but they'd still probably always turn into some sort of water form. That's unforgiveable.>> Watch Psycho and say that again. >8) <<got, of all things, a knife magazine in the mail this week, that I know you'd love. Tons of sharp, pointy things. For CHEAP prices. Maybe it means the merchandise is crap, but just the thought of buying a Ringwraith sword, from LOTR (at a impressive length of 54 ½ ") for just $200 bucks is tempting. And that's one of the most expensive items. I'm talking Japanese shuriken for 10 bucks. TWO CTHD Chinese hook swords for 50 clams. Katanas as cheap as 40 smackers. God, it's so tempting. I need to stock up my private arsenal.>> <Malkie grin> Must check out...<<That's how sex was explained to me. You?>> Tripping over the wrong health book one day explained the Lovecraftesque mechanics of the whole affair, and studying human behavior enlightened me as to the stupidity and hypocrisy of the psychological side of things. <<I've heard that Bloomberg enjoys eating fetuses with his breakfast omelet and wants to change the name of New York into Fart Town>> He's got my vote! Right after the Monster Raving Looney Party of Great Britain... <<I've just discovered that Betty Cohen, once head of Cartoon Network, has resigned. Her replacement? Brad Siegel.>> <reads info> Great googely moogely...<<My point is that Disney, the Great Beast Who Bears The Number of Man Upon Its Forehead, will take the Narnia chronicles, and leech them of all that makes them particularly relevant - the religious overtones of the books themselves.>> FRELL. Yet another book I wanna read someday, demolished... <> Why separate them? And happy birthday! I've got something nice for you, but don't get too close to it or it'll shred your brain. Minor technicality. I think you'll like it. <<What? What? WHAT? WHAT?>> Sorry, what? <<But in the next scene, Spike does the unthinkable - he threatens to destroy their action figures.>> If he had so much as implied that to me, I woulda staked him and thrown him to the Gnawed. <<Click on the link to find out the truth! ;)>> I heard an interesting theory that Jack Chick is this lunatic anti-Christian who is doing his level best to discredit Christianity. He appears to be succeeding so far. O_o' <<they poured diesel fuel down into the basement hole where the Taliban were hiding, and lit it on fire. THAT is beautiful. Sadly, they didn’t have enough fuel to either burn them alive / smoke them out, so to get the remaining mutants out of their little hole, they pumped in gallon after gallon of freezing ice-cold water. If they couldn’t burn them alive, they were just going to freeze them.>> Need it even be said that I love the way their minds work? >:D <<In other anime news, Feb 12th is the date for the release of Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust.>> Frell, now I can't get it for Christmas. Ah well, that's about when Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem will be out, so it's all good. <<Here's the skinny, without giving away too much of the plot, and protecting important spoilers for those who haven't read the original miniseries: It's the future, and it pretty much sucks. The world, and America in particular, has become a fascist state. The President is nothing more than a hologram, and the real person pulling the strings is a familiar face. No one has been able to rise up and change society for the better - until now.>> Wow. I'll see if I can locate the trade paperbacks (collecting them issue by issue is a PAIN O_o) for both this and its sequel; sounds very intriguing. <<I know a lot of cops hate these restrictions, and there has been a lot done in the past few years to even rescind the Miranda warnings (a bad idea, IMO), but I feel that the need for these rules to protect the greater societal good is worth the tradeoff.>> The more of this kind of thing I hear from you, the more glad I am you're on my side. :) <<JackaL has pretty much propositioned ALL of us sexually at one time or another.>> Except me. He's surprisingly insightful. :)
BTW, what are the dates and times of the last e-mail that I sent you and you sent me? I have reason to believe there's a black hole orbiting my e-mail server...

Warpmind> <<Oh, right, you weren't there when Riff and Tesla got sloshed and had some psychotic moments with the turtle and shoe polish... and what they did to the nail file is best left to oblivion...>> Um. Are there records, for the crimes-against-whatever trial? <<And Cuddly Cthulhus, well... I think The Wizard's Attic may have some... otherwise, I may certainly be persuaded to provide one for you; the quasi-local gaming store should have a couple left, but they're kinda costly...>> Hm. I'll root about in the Attic, then. :) (By the way, about what size are the plushies? Typical beanie babie?) <<Oh, and another thing... dude, whacha say we collaborate on planning your Halloween decorations for next year? I have some suitable designs I think you might appreciate, and the annoying thing is, Norway doesn't really have Halloween like you Americans do. :(>> Oooohh...I like this idea. >8) I'm thinking of a Silent Hill theme...<<'Course, if the Nereus project kicks in, the concept of currency is going to undergo a massive upheaval, anyway, rendering most present-day currencies obsolete. };)>> Wonder what the new currency should be. I haven't devoted enough thought to that... <<I so much as SUSPECT Aslan, or the White Witch, or Caspian, or downright ANYone in Narnia is about to break into unbridled song, I'm finishing up my meelee weapon designs and taking off to take out Eisner.>> Well, a musical is capable of being fairly dark and epic (Notre Dame de Paris, kiddies)...although Disney doesn't seem to see the value in this. >:/ <<I've made some estimates on myself... seems to me my two stronger elements are Water, then Fire, with Air and Earth on the lower end...>> How, exactly, does one quantify this? <<Um... you *do* know about the green ones, right?>> I know that they reflect a higher wavelength of light than the red, orange, and yellow ones. <<Seriously; the Biefeld-Brown effect has been known since the 30's, and they're STILL not implementing it in vehicles.>> Do tell. <<Neko Chan? That sounds familiar... *Thinks* Um... you're not... naaaah, couldn't be...>> I imagine it's a common name; it's Japanese for 'little cat' or something like. <> Nothing but an urban legend, most likely started by fifth graders with Internet access and too much free time.

Mara> <<All your asses are now belong to me.>> Please don't set up us the bomb.

Coyote and Ravyn> Semi-permanent lurk mode> :( Hope the lurk won't be too deep.

Ravyn> <<Never played the games that most of y'all have mentioned ... but I'm a sucker for the James Bond shoot 'em up games, like The World is Not Enough, and my personal favorite, Goldeneye. (Go, Boris!) ;)>> Goldeneye was rather too hard for me (why does Rare have to bury its cheats so deep? You need cheats to get through the game, so why have to get through the game to get the cheats? Who is their designer, Sisyphus?), but it was really cool. :) I tend to go for platformers of various sorts (such as Mario, Banjo, Contra, American McGee's Alice), adventure (Zelda, mostly), horror (Silent Hill, The 7th Guest), and occasional scatterings from other genres (some of the better racers, FPSs, and flying combat along the lines of Rogue Squadron, along with Final Fantasy and Vagrant Story in the RPG genre, and Skies Of Arcadia looks fairly interesting). Cookies> Kewl! ^_^ Wish I could cook...they make it look so easy. I'm so clumsy I'd probably burn down the house. O_o <<Okay, I'm officially having a BAD DAY. :(>> <expression darkens; a variety of bladed weapons pop out of devices on Wilek's wrists> Point me toward those responsible and get out of my way. >:) <<My work is driving me crazy ... my coworkers treat me like I'm an idiot, and leave me out of all the silly work activities. I know they're just stupid Christmas parties, but come on, no one likes to be left out deliberately! Doesn't make you feel very good, ya know. :(>> Well that stinks. >:/ Where do they get off treating you like this? <<Plus I was told I had "after-sex" hair today.>> And you didn't string them up by their own esophagi as a warning to others? <<Isn't that sexual harrassment or something?>> It's grounds for an orgy of violence is what it is. <<Then I stood in line for AN HOUR to register for a stupid English proficiency test that this university makes you take after you've completed your English class requirements. (Just curious, does anyone else's school require anything like this, or is mine being dumb?) Anyway, after finally getting up to the counter to register for the test, I was told that I couldn't sign up because I hadn't yet completed 40 credit hours, and I'd have to wait for the people in line who *had* completed that to register first.>> Bureaucracies. <rolls eyes> <<THEN, I get a letter from the University saying I'll be kicked out of my dorm room at the end of the Spring semester, and won't be allowed back, so they can house some undecided freshmen who'll probably drop out anyway. So I'm really going to have to find someplace to live now. Sure, I don't particularly *like* living in the dorms ... but it's free high-speed internet access, it's convenient, and I can actually AFFORD it because of my scholarships. I can not physically afford living off campus, unless I start doing something quick, like maybe changing jobs. And guess what? NO ONE'S HIRING. Fun.>> Oh GODS. This is good reason to march into the administration offices with an uzi...

GXB> <> You too? <<But Sauron giving the nine kings their rings of power and then using the One RIng to transform them into the Nazgul... now that is a work of art.>> Satan doesn't do stuff like that because he doesn't *need to*...humanity is stupid enough to succumb to whatever temptations he has to hand out (witness Rugrats). O_o <<But then again, unlike Satan, Sauron was never Saddam Hussein's b!tch ;)>> Ohh, we're talking about South Park Satan instead of the proper one. In which case I agree, Sauron is much more manipulative and powerful, from what woefully little I've seen. <<One piece he did was titled "Jesus Christ's Spaceship", the theme there is that Christ is travelling to other planets and teaching what ever things there his gospel. Ad the ship is shaped like a weird looking crusifix. When I first saw it, I thought it was Richard Nixon's casket.>> COOOooOOOool...^_^ <<One day in the future, Osama bin Laden has a heart attack and dies.>> You're kidding right? He doesn't die of something that leaves him in a million pieces, takes weeks to transpire, and would make a great pay per view special? ;P <<Luckily I saved that pic to my desktop and just uploaded it to geocities. Click on my name to see it.>> Holy--!! O_o I want his tailor's number. NOW. <<Geez I'm watching the news and this group of crybabies are again putting up there list of Top Ten Toys parents should not buy their kids. Someone tell these people to go get laid. I used to play with Transformers and GI Joes as a kid and often recreated the scene where Serpentor impaled Duke with one of his snake javelins, and I turned out fine.>> I thought that was primarily concerned with physical safety? Chokable parts and the like? If they're stupid enough to worry about the kind of thing you mentioned, one wonders how they managed to figure out the entire Tab A/Slot B process of having children in the first place...

Janine> Welcome back! ^_^

Terrky> <<about the eyes glowing thing? is there a way to explain that?>> Biophosphorescence in the sclerae of the eyes I think. (Which doesn't explain why the pupils vanish, though. I think that was just an animation convenience. I considered the presence of a nictating (sp?) membrane, but that would seriously obscure their vision...)

Archwolf> Welcome back! ^_^ <<Woke up to day and guess what? I cared. DUnno why. Maybe it has to do with today marking 11 months since i had a drink.>> I'm very glad to hear that. :) <<A guy went into the game shop looking to buy a PS2. The clerk told him to wait and buy an XBOx because it was more stable.>> ...what? O_o None of the PS2 kiosks I've played have had any problems...

Jackal> Welcome back! <<As the misguided David Koresh burned, so shall Osama.....>> Forever and ever, amen...and I wanna be the one holding that filthy little marshmallow over the fires of the Inferno...<<It's like taking the Jihad out of Osama.>> I'd like to do that. I'd also like to take out his liver, his lungs, his intestines, his crack-addict-looking eyeballs...<<We should clone Mr. Laden and kill him repeatedly, everyone should get a chance!>> Now you're speaking MY language! >:)

SRSJ> <<Opinion O' Carmaster>> Isn't he an Irish machinist?

Mandolin> Welcome back! ^_^ CBS horror story> My GODS. Looks like the Gargoyles fandom isn't the only one with a lot of justified angst to go around. O_o <<Unfortunately, the show was in the Fridays-at-9 dead zone - a very bad time slot for a non-formulaic, offbeat show that played with multiple genres.>> Uh oh...Farscape's new eps were in that slot before it went on hiatus. O_o

Todd> <<One of my favorite aspects of it was the design for Hogwarts: great stone pillars, diamond-pane windows, coats of arms, huge leather-bound books in the library, all very British.>> I love that. From what I've seen of the trailer, it all looks very Gothic. I'm glad they're taking such a dark turn with what is nominally a children's series.

Female Brooklyn> Welcome back! ^_^ I think I remember you somehow, actually...

Skippy> <<some of these same people make claims that you can get demonicly posessed from using a Quija board or by playing Dungeons & Dragons.>> D&D I agree is harmless (although I think I'd rather leave mathematics to the computers...), but Ouija...I don't know. Maybe it has more to do with the psionic talents of the user than the board itself (in fact I'm almost sure of it, given the board design's rather mundane origins), but I can't help thinking they're dangerous...<> Isn't that like curing brain cancer with a guillotine? >:(

Robby> <<As already announced, Squaresoft will also produce one of the films using the CG rendering technology developed for the Final Fantasy movie.>> I thought Squaresoft Films no longer existed? From what I've heard, Sony had to buy a 20% (or thereabouts) interest in Square just to keep it afloat...<<"Dragon Warrior," as the film is to be titled>> So when will Enix be suing? <<The virus/worm W32.Magistr.24876@mm can arrive as an attachment named Sulfnbk.exe. The Sulfnbk.exe file used by Windows is located in the C:\Windows\Command folder. If the file is located in any other folder, or arrives as an attachment to a email message, then it is possible that the file is infected.>> Yow. Good thing I've never opened the one EXE attachment I've ever recieved (which wasn't this)...hmm...can those work through Netscape Messenger?

Spacebabie> <<True I’m thinking of pinning mine to my arse or to my chest>> I'm thinking of ramming mine into an eye socket, just to see the reaction. <<Well my brother went to the mall early today for one reason: Game Cube, Yes he owns that system now.>> UNCONTROLLABLE ENVY!!!! ^_^ I've played it in stores, and my *gods* it rocks more than I could ever have calculated...Wish it came with its modem like Dreamcast did, but who frelling cares, the games are cool. Only reason I'll be getting the modem anyhow will be to download game saves; that's about all I used the Dreamcast modem for...<<Who is sick of Turkey? Raise your hand>> I don't know; it's always struck me as a rather inoffensive bit of a country. <<My dad will be going into surgery tommorow morning around 5:30>> :( Best wishes...

Silvadel> <> COOL! 8D Wish I could dream lucidly; it'd be like owning a holodeck...

Emambu> Welcome back! ^_^ <<I'm the Lizard King!>> I AM THE PUMPKIN KING! <<The only thing Kanji that I have is my wall mounted scroll that says "tranquility.">> Most of the Kanji I have is on the box that my Mega Man X3 figures came in. O_o <<YES! Self constructed computers all the way!>> If I built one, I wouldn't survive the explosion that would ensue the first time I powered it up. O_o

Mooncat> <<Why can't they make cats that don't need to poop?>> I've been thinking of a system that could sublimate all wastes into gaseous form, however this would cause the subject to flatulate constantly, making them pretty much impossible to live with. <<Do Gargoyles ever have to go potty?>> I should think so; everything else does. <<And where exactly would they do it at?>> Probably the ones that live in civilization do it in the toilet, like everyone else. As for the others...I'd rather not think about that. <<The odd things one thinks of while trying to put off cat box duty.>> Ever seen one of the self cleaning ones?

Patrick Toman> <<Polish Marines stormed Bloomingdale's Department Store in New York yesterday after its intelligence agency reported that Bed Linen was on the fourth floor.>> Is there some peculiarity of the Polish language that one has to understand to get this joke? O_o

Nukes> <<Someone please tell me this isnt what the tgs staff is going to do with the story itself or the "Rokkans".>> Clan Manhattan is Coyote's fic series rather than canon TGS. Highly recommended, BTW.

Jan> Happy birthday! ^_^ <<We don't have the 911 system here yet O.o>> Yikes. O_o Please tell me they plan to install it...<<Ummm.. are you worried about someone peeking into your windows? *giggles*>> I would be if I lived within proper human civilization...

Metaldemon> <> I won't get them because they frelling hurt. :P I'll probably get one when they come out with a holographic stick on replica or something.

HailerStar> <<They could clone him all over the place...Then we'd have pin the bomb on the bin laden at kids birthday parties and no more need for clay pidgeons down at the shooting range, we'll just launch some of the bin laden clones into the air and kapow. Ever hear of the story called 'the deadliest game' Its about a rich man who hunts another man for sport...coincidentlly the rich man gets killed. I can see it now, they'd release the clones into the wild and america would have a shooting spree...>> I love the way your mind works. >8) <<And the most irksome of all: stupid children grow up to become...yes you got it ladies and gents: stupid adults!>> Not always--I was a stupid kid (but then, I'm a stupid adult)--but yeah, all too often...

Cloning> I'd like to make clones of myself to tear limb from limb when I'm depressed. There's a symmetry there.

Aaron> <> Summon: Storm Of Holy Knives! <<If you missed the eps 3 and 4, well, you missed a *lot*.>> Thankfully the only one I've missed so far was the one on the actual day of the outage. <<The Lost Race, maybe?>> I love that idea...now if only I knew what they were. Or maybe that's for me to decide...muhahaha. <<Death: ...>> Same to you buddy. ;P Hm, there's a story here? <<Actually, the series is the set up for the game, and features some of the most kick-ass sword combat I've seen in anime.>> Have to check that out. <<It was the planet-eater ep. Which sets up one of the more kick-@$$ TNG books, Vendettas.>> That too. <<Last I heard, they were trying to hire MainFrame to do an animated version of Little Annie Fannie>> May I presume they were smart enough to refuse? (Waitaminnit. Someone who works for Playboy has sufficient intelligence to be a fan of Mainframe? Will wonders never cease.)

Finnula> Interesting name. :) <<is someone threatens your life what do you do?>> Track them down and neutralize them--behind threat lurks intent.

Entity> <<Guess what? There are now "services" that can "sniff" the internet for computer users whose hard drives house "illegal" properties, like video files and mp3's. They can find you, identify you, and "force" you to comply to copyright law.>> Frell. O_o Hm...would this trip any security setup designed to intercept external connection requests?

Selanit> <<Does anyone know if Toon Disney shows the Goliath Chronicle series after the regular series finishes up?>> Unfortunately, yes. >:/

Taleweaver> <<Does anyone know where the mythology sites have gone? I went to look up Encyclopedia Mythica and its gone. I went to Egyptian Myths and it's gone too. Granted I haven looked them up in a month or two (with egyptian myths it has been a year) but any ideas where they disappeared.>> This bodes ill. O_o

Christine> <> Suddenly the Viking thing makes a little more sense.

=I AM LYSDEXIC OF BORG. YOUR ASS WILL BE LAMINATED. FUSISTANCE IS RETAIL.=
Wilek Nereus
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 01:30:41 AM
IP: 216.65.106.130

Hey guys. I've been gone awhile I know, but it seems that I'm getting my first disappointments of my college life. I've made my very first Cs ever and I'm pouting about it like a 5 year old. I have so much better standards for myself, so I've been whining all this time. Fortunately, my parents are wonderful and they're just happy that I didn't fail out. My final conclusions: Psychology really is evil when I made As in all my other classes!
The Pretender movie was awesome as the show always is! Catch it if you missed the premiere!
SOROW
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 01:03:37 AM
IP: 129.116.38.151

Imzadi> <<We need a reason?>>: It hasn't happened yet?
<<runs and cowers in the corner, as far away from the cursed plant as possible>>: But you weren't here for... The Incident.
<<My school produces some of the most creative senior pranks I've seen>>: But do they beat Poe's "graffiti equivalency of the 'Birth of Venus'" (Exploitation Now, 10/9/00)?
<>: But they only like me for my ice cream. Even scarier is that today someone asked for my autograph.
<<Neither have I, and I post 7 of these things every week>>: It isn't overall length as much as on huge post at once.
<<From the underpants gnomes, where else?>>: But I'd rather they didn't spent their time in my bokers while I'm wearing them. In the drawer, they can do (almost) whatever they want.

Odd question: do tentacle monsters have fungloves instead of funsocks? Assuming there isn't a nearby schoolgirl.

Warpmind> <<Though, admittedly, I could probably have picked a handle that is easier to pronounce>>: I don't think Warpmind's giving me any problems, but I'm not quite sure about de Inzane.

Fire Storm> <<It just throws in Word specific coding into the post>>: $!#@ directed quotes. There's a list of standard ascii values, it should be easy to use those.
<<What version of Netscape do ye have?>>: 6.2
Christine> <<Just the word Spam gives me a hard-on>>: You mean it doesn't happen to everyone?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:46:19 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

I can’t even believe I missed this one.

But I did for two reasons: I’ve been insanely busy these past few weeks.

And, really, I care so little about the subject in question that I totally glossed over it.

Rather, I *cared* so little for it. Now I have a fire lit under me. Well, more like a matchstick, but you get the idea.

About Avalon Mists…..well, it seems as if all of a sudden I’m painted into the picture of “Great Persecutor of Christine Morgan”. I love it though. I do! I love how, even though it appears that I’m not the only one who has made reference to Avalon Mists becoming more “adult”, since I was one of the most vocal, than that makes me the numba one perpetrator. Somehow it’s my fault that people may be complaining, even though, of course, I have nothing to do with the actual content that people are complaining about. You’d think the issue would be with the material, which thus causes the “public outrage”, rather than my scathing criticism, but silly me, I guess it’s all my fault. Or Pistoff’s. (I don’t mind so much, since the egotist inside of me at least is happy that it’s all about ME.) So, if you write something that people possibly take offense to, or have a problem with, don’t blame me for it, even if I call you on it. Unless you want a convenient scapegoat, that is, because I make a pretty damn good one.

But I’ll reiterate my previous statement on erotica, which I think some of you remember from way back when we talked about such things ad nauseam before, but maybe have forgotten (and some of you newer folks haven’t perhaps experienced the pleasure of those past “debates”). I have no problem with anyone writing erotica. You can write smut all you want. I will just never consider it to be “literature”. I mean, I have no problem with you writing anything like that. I’m not a “prude”, as I have been called by, if not Ms. Morgan than her supporters, when it comes to erotica or “adult fiction”. I don’t care if you write it. I won’t pick up a torch and pitchfork and call for the angry villagers to storm your castle. It honestly concerns me so little in my life that I just don’t care what you do with your writing abilities. But if you want me to respect what you’ve written, well…if it’s erotica, I’m not doing it, because while I have no problem with you writing it or hell even people reading it, whatever, I won’t respect it because IMO I don’t view it as anything worthy of praise or respect. Whoo hoo, you wrote a story about two characters having sex. I don’t care if it was the quality of Boccaccio’s “Decameron”, I’m not going to fluff your nut (double entendres intentional) for it. That’s where I stand. To me, it’s like trying to argue the literary value of “Penthouse Letters”, I’ll just laugh right in your face.

<<I want to offer first dibs to Sevarius Jr. and Pistoff, who, I’m sure, can continue Avalon Mists in the clean, G-rated, wholesome family entertainment standard in which it was originally founded. I’ve had all the fun for four years, but if I’m no longer doing a decent job of it, then it’s better for all if the webzine is in the care of those who can.>>

Wow. I am tempted to accept. I probably could keep AvMists G-rated, although knowing my track record, I don’t know if it’d qualify as wholesome family entertainment. It probably wouldn’t be too fun for the regular AvMist reader, either, because I’d just fill the issue full of in-jokes and thinly-veiled or not-veiled-at-all jokes / parodies about Greg Weisman and Disney.

<<Should SJ and Pistoff decline, or if I fail to hear from either of them by January 1st (given SJ's quirk of never directly addresing or responding to me, we'll have to wait and see what happens), it’s open call for other volunteers willing to take on the job of editor. >>

Ouch. Well, please, let’s be fair to me – I pretty much NEVER directly address or respond to ANYONE, except on occasion in here. (Just ask Gunjack or Lain. Sorry, you two, I’ll maybe send you an email sometime in…..well, I guess the next 6 months or so. I’m a lazy bastard, haven’t you figured that one out? More on that later.) I personally nominate Paul Allen Nathans to take over the job of AvMists editor. Long-time residents of this CR may get that joke or not.

Well, I just felt that I had to respond to this in some way, shape or form, since I was directly mentioned in this issue of AvMists (does this qualify me for celebrity status?). If you want my answer, regrettably, it’s no. If I was editor, than I’d have to spend my time criticizing myself instead of you, and where would the fun be in that?

Seriously, though, I applaud this little essay of yours, because it does a masterful job of taking your two biggest detractors, and subtlely using your “most favored author” status in the fandom to turn those who care against us. Negation is a fun thing to play around with. I can appreciate the wonderful technique you used, and I wish I had brushed up on my Machiavelli enough to remember whether that was in “The Prince” somewhere. Or maybe Sun-Tzu. I always forget such things. But this was well done. I’ll give credit where it’s due. I can imagine you writing it. “This will be great! I’ll put them on the spot, that will shut them up for sure! *patonback, patonback*” Hudda la hudda la. Now, the older version of me would no doubt gear up for a fantastic flame war based upon this. The current version of me just says, “Eh, whatever.” It’s really hard for me to work up the desire to fight over this stuff anymore. In a very real sense, I’ve “moved on”. Oh, not from ridiculing, of course, cause that never gets tired, but from a lot of things. I’ve been branching out into new frontiers elsewhere, and that’s taking up more of my time and interest these days.

However, what energy I do have left has been fired up – the matchstick again – to produce something I’m sure all of you will enjoy – “Rusty Copper (Kind of Like An Old Penny) Flames”! (working title)
Yes, I’m thinking of creating my OWN webzine, for all of you people. Because YOU, the fans, demanded it. Maybe then, I can realize my dream of having my own horde of loving sycophants. It’d debut in a few months, and who knows? Maybe I’ll be able to parlay it into a self-publishing deal. Maybe you’ll love it, and shower me with praise. Maybe you’ll hate it and want me run out of town on a rail. Or maybe, hopefully, some of you will appreciate the joke I’m putting forth with it. So what do you think? When I get everything set up, perhaps I’ll open the floor for submissions. You’d have to be patient, though, as again, I’m notoriously lazy (which is why “The Great SJ Erotica” [again, working title] hasn’t been written, because I’m just too lazy to do it. I’ve been in this place for something like 3 years or more, and I’ve only written 2 stories, the longest of which was maybe 5 pages in length. I’m just a slacker is all). Maybe if I get many others to do most of the work for me, I could put it out sooner. We’ll have to see.

So, you wanted my answer, and it’s that I can’t accept the editor’s gig on AvMists…..since I’ll be working as the editor for my OWN webzine! Yes, we turn negatives into positives into negatives in this CR. But I promise you’ll be in for an experience that you’ve never had before!

Unless, of course, some of you want to take over the editor’s job on ““Rusty Copper (Kind of Like An Old Penny) Flames””. I’ll wait until the end of this year for someone to respond, otherwise I’ll just keep myself in that position.

Who am I kidding? I’m gonna have the position anyway, so asking for it is futile.

I have seen the future…..and it is “Rusty Copper (Kind of Like An Old Penny) Flames”.

"I think you need to come to terms with your own insignificance. Your opinion means nothing."
---Evil Reader
Sevarius "Just a Pilgrim" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:01:57 AM
IP: 207.172.11.148

Warpmind > you and half the gang on Pyramid, LOL! We are going to polish up the draft this weekend and get it sent off to Steve. If it does happen, it's gotta be Phil, I agree!

Fire Storm > smut vs. good smut -- no need to tell me; I know it full well! ; )

Harbor House Quote of the Night > heard this from a happy, drunken resident last night as he was making Spamwiches (sorry for the phrasing, but it's what he said). "I love Spam. Just the word Spam gives me a hard-on." Now, there's a commercial you'll never see. I couldn't write for a half-hour after that'un.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:44:09 PM
IP: 64.24.214.48

I took my Auto history test today. I think I did well enough. In the B's I think.
I'll be on the road Thursday on my way back to the Bayou City.

Just a quick self promotion for now

I have a new story up at my site, go take a look if you want something to read.

End promo

"I think I found Jesus"
"Funny, I didn't know he was lost. I guess he took the loop again."

-E-mail of possible bumper stickers-

Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:59:06 PM
IP: 129.120.255.222

Flame war? Nawwwww, more like a flame fart. ;) I agree with SJ and Josh, though – if there’s going to be a flame war at least make it about something of substance instead of just personal jabs at each other. That’s not a flame war, that’s a catfight ;)
Glad to see everyone work it out, though. All of the sweetness is giving me a toothache. Hehe

Pretender discussion:
Josh> yeah, it was a spooky/eerie episode *nodnodnod* The connection between the “ghost” girl and Miss Parker was interesting… especially when she revealed that everyone called her Miss Parker and only her father called her Angel. The whole tying in the old Parker family and it’s lineage with the current Parkers and the Centre – that was excellent!
DPH> I assumed that the scrolls would be found and read, but I had no idea of what would be revealed. I was not disappointed at all in this movie. I thought it had great twists and revelations.
I laughed when the assistance referred to Mr. Parker’s sperm count as “his soda pop is flat” *L*
Sooooo…. Will there be a new series be resurrected from this? I still haven’t figured that one out yet. O_o ?

Work related:
The crazy guy from CA is still with us – we’re waiting for them to extradite him. We’re going to pick up an inmate in New Mexico next week – Kathy and I have offered to go get him and not even charge the county with transporting fees ;) Sheriff isn’t buying it, though.
A different county brought down a prisoner on a change of venue case and just dropped him off for US to get to court and guard. He’s one nasty and mean SOB. Our deputy brought him into the courtroom and the defense attorney went apeshit. He tried for almost 2 hours to have the case thrown out because the potential jurors saw this guy in handcuffs and shackles… for a whole 15 seconds. Fortunately the judge disagreed that there was no damage done and the trial will continue. The guy is a real gem… he beat another man and left him for dead on the side of a road, was a violent apprehension, and has repeatedly said that he is going to kill several of our deputies. (We caught him)
I found out (thru the courthouse grapevine) that they would not have him handcuffed or shackled during the trial… big mistake and risk. He is considered violent and an escape risk. We have ONE deputy guarding at the courthouse for this trial. We’ve called the housing county to send some of their officers, but they informed us that they didn’t have any to spare…. Neither do we.
We’re having our Christmas party tomorrow evening at a local establishment. This should prove to be quite interesting.

Home front news: Anna has decided that she wants to keep the baby after all. I am feeling both relieved and nervous. She has matured a LOT these past 8 months and has changed her way of thinking and problem solving methods. She will stay with me for a few extra months and then we’ll work on finding her housing. She’s also going to ask the biological father if he’ll sign over full custody to her.
Spacebabie> Your father is in my prayers for a speedy recovery :) Keep us updated, ok? =)

Christine> congrats on your book!

Rayvn> congrats on completing some of your finals – it’s a great feeling, huh? : ) Sorry to hear about the housing situation though =\ I’m sure something will work out and will be even better than what you currently have!
<<sexual harassment>> the other day one of the deputies was standing in such a manner that I told him he was prime for a goosin’ He told me that it would be sexual harassment… I said, “promise?” ; ) When the detective threatens to handcuff me, I give a shudder and wink at him… cracks him up every time *L*

Nukes> I understand what you are saying about wanting Lynati to at least dislike you over a good reason. I know that every single person isn’t going to like me – but at least dislike me over a legit reason. I’m not siding with either one of you concerning this issue, she has every right to dislike you and I have rarely seen Lynati dislike someone for no good reason. You may not understand or know the reason, but she’s pretty stable in her thinking. *nodnod*

I was installed into my first position in the Eastern Star this weekend. Eastern Star is based on women of the Bible… however; they have one particular lady that I have yet to find a reference to in the Bible. They use a reference of a “mother” but yet nowhere in the Bible does it call her by name… so where did the Eastern Star come up with the name? Of course, when I asked about her – I was quickly put off and not answered. *chuckles*

*looks at DPH’s mistletoe* hehe
Jan
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:52:28 PM
IP: 12.110.236.19

Aingeal: I am on-line but it doesn't look like you are any more.
Unless you changed your IM name. (Partial listed for your security) Faileas?
Fire Storm
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:06:45 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

<FS> sorta..... it will then it wont... are you online? talk IM vs in the CR?
Aingeal
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 08:56:30 PM
IP: 207.42.162.238

Aingeal: <Thanks FS, it might be that I need to replace my HDD>
I know. Sounds like it. Sucks, don't it?

Were you able to re-boot your computer and get your drive to come up?
FIre Storm
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 06:49:30 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Thanks FS, it might be that I need to replace my HDD... GGGGRRRRRR!

Who in here was talking the other week about doing Flash? I've got majhor stuff due tomorrow, and need help!! (if youre willing)

I'll be back in the lab later tonite... take care... and if you are willing, pray ofr me... ineed it :-p
Aingeal
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 06:07:28 PM
IP: 207.42.162.234

Aingeal: <I'm going to kill something... prolly my computer...it tried to tell me this morning that my C drive isn't accessible>
ICK! I hope it was just a temporary glitch!
BUT whenever it does come up, move your stuff to disk ASAP!

Ravyn: <**L** That's cute>
Na. Seeing you two IM each other... now THAT'S cute!

Aaron: <Hmm. I must rethink this now...>
Yeah, I know. I mean, they MUST have some way of seeing...

Christine: <'twas Pissy's; though I am still waiting for SJ's story that will prove how easy smut-writin' is>
Smut IS easy to write! GOOD smut, on the other hand...
I mean, I have written smut. It sucked, but I wrote it!
Dialogue, I am good with. Plot, I am good at. Action...

Imzadi: <We need a reason?>
Oh yeah! I mean, what's there? Why bother?
Except maybe for target practice.
<No, you missed the point. My mother had just entered her teenage years when the hippy thing started>
Yeah, same with my parents, but that didn't stop them!
<Yeah yeah. Well I don't have your hot chick, or anyone else's for that matter>
One day, you will meet some unlucky woman and have yourself your OWN hot chick!
<"Logan's Run" comes to mind>
True... BUT I doubt it would actually get that far before a revolt.
<But there will be no shortage of explosions>
"OHHH! I AM COMING!" **CLICK!**
"Um... did you just kick that red button?"
BOOM!
<Most movies portray LA/CA in pretty favorable light, actually. It's just "Escape from Los Angeles" that's giving us all the grief>
"Escape from LA," "Falling Down," "Judgment Night," "Volcano," "Trauma: Life in the ER," "COPS," Those police chase videos, "Court TV" (During the first OJ thing)
<But I bet it pisses off certain people to no end>
But at least I don't try to hack the other websites. I just have to find other ways into it because our DSL connection is quite flaky when it comes to FTPing into servers.

It just throws in Word specific coding into the post, such as the altered quotation marks and the like.
<Yeah, sure. Me too>
Yeah, the next update of yours will be, "Hey all! I took over the world! More news later!"
And that page will be the last time you update it! :)

Gside: <Ah, such sweet dreams>
Definitely! Ah... the dreams of being a tentacle monster... or just myself!

What version of Netscape do ye have?

Fire Storm
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 06:04:52 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

terrky- i _totally_ agree with you. thats exactly how i feel.

however, i should point out one thing.

its not all about me WANTING to be lynati's friend, its about her disliking me for the wrong and _dumbest_ reason ive ever heard off. do you get what i mean? i hate taking unneeded punishment, you know?
i love lol. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol<<<<<<<<

i could use
lmfao
rofl

instead but lol is still good. i dont know how she would react if i said LMFAO!! ROFL!!! about her pet dying...and im STILL not sure thats what it was...its all i could piece together...the other person talking couldnt remember either. lol. <<<<<<<<<

<<some people just aren't like other people. you never know. nukes may be a really inellegent person, but he just doesn't show it, and he comes across as immature>>

uh thanks, i think. i think we can both get a good laugh at what she will say to that, something like "oh, of course hes not like everyone else! hes an idiot!" 8)

josh- <<Scary is more like it.>> hehe. maybe. <<and lynati got bent over it. >> she does that often, no?<<And by murphy's law>> he also said the grocery line you choose will be the longest.<<Because she's taken>> aint it the sad truth?<< test it alongside other similar theories I've heard ;-) >> you mean, MULTIPLE people think you are cute? lucky b~a~s~t~a~r~d.<<It always was MY favorite>> cant wait to try it. i dont think ill be able to get 10,000.<<The best time to do it >> with this guy, ANY time is fine 8)<< (we can't really afford broadband access right now anyway)>> she also calls you a whiny rich kid :D<<I'll play you starcraft FROM THE TOILET! ;-) >> heaven?<> of course there is. going to practice now.

Green Baron- 24? no license? wow. well, im happy that you dont want one, cause if you did and you were that old that would _really_ suck.

Warps- your a gun fanatic too? 8)
NukesGoBoom
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 04:24:39 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

*Warpmind enters, looking weary.*
Good... GRIEF! At last I'm getting of my hiney to post, and I have a LOT to catch up on...

Oh, well... some good has come from my brief hiatus from the CR... I have worked out the stats for a 20mm (That's around .79 caliber to you non-metric Americans) 5-shot revolver... it weighs over 19 pounds, kicks like a mule on steroids, and will most likely shatter the user's wrist at the first shot... on the bright side, they make ALL kinds of ammo in 20mm, right? }:)

Hmh... I note that the Nobel Peace Price has been handed out now... 'Tis a bittersweet irony... the one who set up the whole peace price was the guy who invented dynamite... Might one conclude that he also stood fairly close when it went bang? };)

SJ: You're less worried about what people who know your full name could do to you, than what you could do to them? Tsk, you're forgetting a very significant detail... Wilek, Moochie and I are ALSO on the list of people who know your real name... not to mention lain... You have EVERY reason to worry. };)

Gside: True, I'm none too fond of my family name. Then again, I'm none too fond of most of my extended family, so I guess it figures... Though, admittedly, I could probably have picked a handle that is easier to pronounce...

Josh: If, if, if... well, to put it this way: I'll probably shave my head anyway, but I hope to be able to do it for G'02... hm... *ponder* Saaaaay, what's the going rate for human hair these days?

Spacebabie: I dunno about the flavor of the green M&M's... but the story goes, as I hear it, that they're loaded with an aphrodisiac... ;)

Technology to sniff out video files and mp3s: Okay, I see several HUGE flaws in the logic here. First, filenames are easy to tweak. Second, there is NO friggin' way ANYone can be 100% sure about someone having a copyrighted video or music file just by remote checks, without severely straining their bandwidth so much it is noticed. Third, what about all the games and stuff that use mp3s for speech and music? One example is Vampire: The Masquerade, where ALL the dialogue is on mp3... Just three reasons why this is unlikely to be a good idea from any perspective... I'll bet that if this concept gains much support, you'll have millions of PC-users deliberately stressing the sniffers by passing on false files with authentic-looking, but worthless, contents...

Emambu: Appreciate what I see as a positive review of Promises Unbroken. Now, you say you found one error there... WHERE??? Seriously, there was SOMETHING about the whole story that's been chewing on my nerves since I wrote it, but I'm unable to put my finger on it!!! (But hey, please tell me per e-mail... no need to advertise the blooper greatly, huh?) And no, I don't steal from the offerings. But I receive a nice little paycheck each time. As for Navarre... naw, sorry. Used the killswitches on both her and Hermann. Saved time and ammo. (I have zero points allotted to the rifles... Excelling in pistol and meelee, and up to Advanced in demolition and heavies, I think...)

Christine: Well, I'm keepin' my fingers crossed for GURPS Sex, by Christine Morgan, art by Phil Foglio...

Aaron: In the mail? YAY! At last, the CD should arrive soon... if I'm lucky, before Christmas, huh? :)

Moochie: Ye're back, it seems. And that list of guns was SWEEEEEEEET!!! :)

Dang, done already... YAY! Then it is time to go watch "From Russia With Love"... Later on, gang.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 04:03:04 PM
IP: 193.217.213.97

Talked to my dad last night, and well he's sedated, but healthy.Going to visit him later.I had to sleep with his dog last night and Velvet is still pissed at him for chasing her up a tree the other day.

Flame war's, yes I agree with SJ if people didn't take things to personaly they wouldn't keep appearing as often.

DPH Are your sure that is wise with the misletoe.

GB We have an advent calender too,

Happy Chanuka too all our Jewish CR dwellers.

I hate this heat we are having here in Florida. I can rember back in 1989 when parts of the state recieved snow. I hope it gets cold soon cause I'm worried about Global warming.

Angel Spoilers

Great episode. I loved seeing Angel trying to be a dad and Lorne crashing at their place. Loved Wesley's face when he held that flame thrower. I knew the baby was a decoy when Angel ran off but I didn't know it was a bomb and I didn't know that they knew about the Wolfram and Hart spy cam. Great ending with Angel kicking butt on that Linwood.

That Files and Record's woman, I don't know if she was a demon, I figure she's more of a robot and I wonder if that woman that Holtz is joining was a slayer in waiting but was past the age limit when the slayer before Buffy died.

End Spoilers.

Spacebabie
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 02:40:35 PM
IP: 67.25.53.209

Howdy all,

Quick question. Does anyone know where the mythology sites have gone? I went to look up Encyclopedia Mythica and its gone. I went to Egyptian Myths and it's gone too. Granted I haven looked them up in a month or two (with egyptian myths it has been a year) but any ideas where they disappeared.
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:49:57 AM
IP: 134.71.41.95

**PRETENDER SPOILERS**
One word summary: LETDOWN

This movie wasn't that creepy to me. I even guessed where they'd find the scrolls before they got to them.

The revleations were nice. I thought it was odd that everybody in the Centre was related to each other, but Mr Reins. So much for that theory. I am willing to put money in a betting pool that the newest Parker child was adopted outside fo the Centre. Look, Mr Reins was adopted, Mr Lyle was adopted. I see a pattern here.

I am pretty sure that Mr. Parker surived and carried the scrolls to shore. I believe that the scrolls actually carry a written history of events at the Centre.

Now for why I was letdown. Only 2 people have ever read the scrolls. So? How could the scrolls hold so much power if so few people have actually read them? Sorry, but unless those scrolls foretell who is going to defeat/destroy the Triumvirate, I don't see how they are that valuable to them.

That picture Mr. Reins sent wasn't about being nice; it was about baiting Miss Parker and Jarod to do the dirty work in finding the scrolls for the Centre. The question to me is why does the Triumvirate want the scrolls NOW. Unless the Triumvirate have another scroll or two that spells out a time and place for certain things to happen, I fail to see why the Triumvirate wants the scrolls now.

BTW, the movie violated the shows continuity. Way back in season 2, it was strongly implied that Miss Parker's father was a non-Parker.

Oh yea, where was Ethan? Where was Miss Parker's newfound gift?
**END PRETENDER SPOILERS**

Imzadi - I disagree with you about the Pretender movie. Of course, "the Corn Man" wasn't all that scary to me, either. <runs and cowers in the corner, as far away from the cursed plant as possible> I will be guarding that hologram while I am awake. If it should mutate, the mutated version will disappear and a good version of that plant will appear.

GXB - <it takes a well balanced individual in the Centre to make a great leader> Was that a Pretender reference? If so, I don't want any of those people running the country.

Taleweaver - Actually, I was hoping the discussion would start with season 1 of Gargoyles.

James Birdsong - Thanks for visiting my website and dropping off comments. I really need to redo some pages in my homepage. Maybe I should add a small section in the Chrons section to give links to TGS stories I worked on.

DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:49:39 AM
IP: 204.94.193.61

* ANGEL SPOILERS *

I thought that this was a good episode. A lot of fun elements in it, including Angel's taking on the role of fatherhood (an enjoyable combination of comedy and drama - especially in such parts as Cordelia pointing out to him that he can't look after his son all by himself, and Angel discovering that his "demon face" is the funny face most effective at cheering up little Connor), the Files and Records scene (Owen could be facing some competition over his role of "Most Useful and Effective Villain's Employee"), and the Holtz scenes. I particularly got a chuckle over the demon mercenaries who are happily snacking down while Holtz and his demon ally argue - at least until the poison kicked in.

You've also got to admit, that episode showed that sometimes, having a lot of enemies can be a blessing in disguise - if you can just make them aware that they're in competition with each other over you and it never occurs to them to team up instead.

I'm also wondering what the significance of the name "Connor" is. Maybe something to do with Angel's past - particularly his pre-vampire days in 18th century Ireland.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 08:24:58 AM
IP: 63.183.39.135

After a long abscence, the Green Baron is back. As Customer Service guy for 39th Finance, I should soon have some good stupid customer tales. Pistoff has dealt with some real morons at work, but try handling pay problems for a bunch of soldiers. Best of all, people pop in when we're closed. I thought you had to be able to read to join the ARMY. I guess not ;)

Let's see if one comes to mind. Well, anyoen below the rank of Sergeant First Class has to fill in a pay inquiry and send it through their PAC (Jaden shoudl know what I'm talking about). Soem NCOs try to pull rank and whine about including one guy who was promotable. What's even funnier is when a Pirivate tries to buck teh system. If I don't let a Sergeant come in without the Pay Inquiry, I definitely won't let a Private get by. I can pull my rank on them if they try to get pesky.

The funniest is when they are not getting benefits and think I can get them thos ebenefits just by their word. If that was true, I could claim I'm married, with a wife in Manhattan or Connecticut and have 12 dependents. That would get me a bunch of benefits but I cna't do that and they need documents to authorize them wonderful tax free beneifts.

Now some Oficers are dippy, too. This is asad, because I generally expect them to have more brains than the Enlisted guys...wrong!!!

Now on to comments

Greg X> <<DAMMIT! I meant difference, not parents. How the Hell did I type that? >> That's quite a difference. If you can hold G03 in August (like mid-August my chances of making it there are much much higher).

<<JMS>> Let's not forget Tolkein :)

<<Jesus is NOT the Lord! Krishna is! ;)>> No!! Now you'll be selling flowers at airports after you shave all your hair save the ponytail :)

<<I've decided that both the Liberals and the Conservatives are dumbasses and it takes a well balanced individual in the Centre to make a great leader ;)>> How about a ticket with both a Republican and a Democrat. John McCain and Zell Miller sounds good :)

Ravyn> Too bad you don't work at the bookstore. I got a discount, plus I could borrow a book each semester and return it at Semester's end. I also occassionally demagnetized a book and smuggled it through...well it was Attila's idea :)

Nukes> I'm 24 and I don't have a liscence. Frankly I don't want one but I'll get one because I'll need it at my next duty station. I will never get a car in Germany because its expensive and the bus system is excellent. Now maybe I'm not that mature, but I hardly consider a liscence a sign of maturity. I thinkfolsk who dirve in big cities which have mass transit to fulfill transportation needs are actually quite immature and a safety hazard to pedestrians, plus all that traffic delays the bus.

<<Which I wouldn't really mind, except that it wasn't a particularly funny joke about AIDS testing, and that's just unforgiveable.>> I think a funnier joke is about men's silk shirts coming with a free AIDS test :) Luckily I prefer coton/polyester blends, plus I'm a virgin so I only take tests when the ARMY requires it like right beofre I was stationed here.

Spacebabie> ::hugs:: I hope all goes well. My father ha sbeen having back problems. Good thing he's a disabled vet or he wouldn't get VA coverage.

Daphne> I'll be waiting.

SJ> <<But then again, I’m reminded of the Green Baron incident, so maybe you have a point.>> I heard that :p I was more curious about who she was, but I guess ome see me as a joke over it. Mooncat woudl more likely be stalked by Attila, and let's not forget how many woman he hit on. Actually Mooncat might enjoy being stalked by my late cat.

But those days of G2K and my firting days are behind me as Heather tamed me. I'm going to see her in 9 days. I'm so happy!!!

Hyperion> Now if only there was a way I oculd profit form a money-laundering scheme. I wish Attila left me his notes on running a vast criminal Empire while remaining too cute and cuddly to ever be convicted.

Happy Chanukah to Josh and Greg X and our other Jewish posters, and happy Advent to all our Christian posters, and to all our Harry Krishna posters, get some suntan for your head if you sell flowers outside the airport :)

I'm posting in purple, because its Advent. I got a calendar and a wreath. I've also gone to a local Mass in Hanau and while I don't understand German well enough, I must say the music is beautiful, plus if I can't get a ride to Mass (the Catholic Chapel is not in walking distance), I can go to downtown Hanau for Mass (though I won;t understand the homily, but I can receive the Eucharist with no problem).

Lynati> <<Look, some professors- one of mine, as an example- WILL DROP YOU A LETTER GRADE IF YOU ARE LATE TO CLASS. PERMANENTLY.>> Try being late to formation in teh Army. If you do it too often you get demoted and lose pay, or you get humiliating punishments like carrying a wall clock with you :)

Now, I'm off again. I hope to post more often. Soon, I'll have internet. I now have a phone in my barracks.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Pioneer Kasserne, Germany
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 03:57:13 AM
IP: 140.156.11.59

Hey folks.

MERRY NEW YEARS!

No, wait, wrong holiday.

HAPPY HANUKAH!

Okay, got it that time.

Today was useful, but had the potential to be SO much better. I had to wake up at the buttcrack of dawn (a.k.a. 8AM) for a mechanics review. It was really useful and we got a lot done (and I got back 4 homework assignments too...only missed 2 points out of nearly 180).

When that ended at 11, I actually went BACK to sleep until 1...I was feeling very sleep-deprived (after studying for nearly 8 hours yesterday, 7 hours of sleep just wasn't cutting it).

Then it was off to my dynamics review, which I'm sorry I woke up for. I was there less than 20 minutes. Handing out a solution set for the problems you are going to demonstrate isn't a great way to keep students in their seats. And since I only went to the review to find some new solutions to put on my cheat sheet (we know he takes the problems from the text, so every one we see is one less he has to show us).

The new Pretender movie was on at 5PM, so I watched that. It rocked, naturally.

Then it was off to my fluids review...that will be the most bit of studying I do for THAT class (the final is on wednesday).

So my day consisted of studying. Shocked? I'm not.

***PRETENDER: ISLAND OF THE HAUNTED SPOILERS****
::shiver::
Okay, this was the trippiest Pretender ep I've ever seen. It would have made a good show for Halloween, I think. It had ghosts of children laughing children-of-the-corn style, wacko religious stuff, scary monks that kill people, and a host of other...bizarre things.

I think there are some serious implications that Jarod is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. That would explain why the possession of the scrolls and of Jarod grant the Centre so much power.

There were so many times when I made eerily accurate predictions about where the plot was going, and I was really scared about it. Not that I was accurate, but that this is where they're taking the Pretender-verse. It's just...creepy.

Unforutunately, while this episode told us a lot about Ms. Parker's origins (who would have guessed that her father is really Raines!?), it told us very little about Jarod, except that he was mentioned by name in the ancient scrolls. Apparently, he's "The Chosen"...whatever that means. Like I said, I think its a Jesus reference, especially with earlier talk of the holy grail.

Riddle me this: if Mr. Parker was taking the scrolls to the bottom of the ocean, then why did he need a parachute, and how on Earth did they end up washing up on shore? That box surely would have carried them to bedrock.

Okay, and that thing where the little dead girl's ghost says "only daddy called me Angel, everyone else called me Ms. Parker"...that was just TRIPPY.

All in all, a rather freaky episode. Not to be watched with the lights off ;-)

***END SPOILERS****

Replies.

Fire Storm: <<That's yet ANOTHER reason to take over Canda!>>: We need a reason? <<Your parents got like that in their late teens or early twenties>>: No, you missed the point. My mother had just entered her teenage years when the hippy thing started. <<seeing how I already HAVE my hot chick>>: Yeah yeah. Well I don't have your hot chick, or anyone else's for that matter. <<enough people will ALWAYS know>>: "Logan's Run" comes to mind. <<Let's have sex! That will stop the bomb!>>: But there will be no shortage of explosions. <>: Most movies portray LA/CA in pretty favorable light, actually. It's just "Escape from Los Angeles" that's giving us all the grief ;-) <<it is fun to figure out how to get into Wyvern Web!>>: But I bet it pisses off certain people to no end. <<Anyone else may make the standards random and/or chaotic>>: Or worse. <<you type your posts in Word and post them in IE, right?>>: I wasn't aware there was a problem with that. Explains all the weird things that happened when I posted from Canada. <<One of these days I WILL update that site>>: Yeah, sure. Me too.

Spacebabie: <<power blipped>>: A UPS would be a wise investment. They start at only $60. Mine has saved my bacon more times than I can count. <<have his prostrate removed>>: Ouch. Wish him well.

Aingeal: <<I'm going to kill something... prolly my computer...it tried to tell me this morning that my C drive isn't accessible>>: Naturally, I'm going to make a Windows joke. Okay, done. <<Life is a pain.. school sucks and I am moving sat. I'm in a generally annoyed mood, but life could still be worse I think>>: Other than the moving, I'm right there with you.

DPH: <<DPH snaps his fingers and a hologram of mistle toe appears in the CR>>: ::runs and cowers in the corner, as far away from the cursed plant as possible:: <>: That's good. That means you have no opinion on the stupid flaming we all did yesterday. <<If it gets to the point where too many morons show up from nowhere breaking the CR rules consistently>>: If that happens, I think most of us will leave.

Sevarius Jr: <would usually end with someone threatening to leave the room for good or actually doing it>>: I have no interest in leaving, no matter how much certain members of this CR would like me to. The people it would make happy are people that I don't particularly want to make happy ;-) <<This past flame war was about the weakest one I've ever seen since...well, the pseudo flame war between Josh and Crazy / Patrick a couple weeks back>>: I worked hard to cut it out. I've no interest in participating in a flame war about ME, or about any particular person. <<some of you need to grow a f!cking thick skin>>: This is true. <<it wasn't a particularly funny joke about AIDS testing, and that's just unforgiveable>>: Okay so flame wars over bad jokes are okay? <<yet when he says something that's smartass, some of you act like the sky has just fallen and you're shocked as all hell>>: Maybe the problem is that I'm not rude ENOUGH. No one seems to be bothered by your comments. Maybe they expecct more from me because I'm supposed to be a mild-mannered engineer?

Nukes: <<does that mean that we have something *common*? that would be cool>>: Scary is more like it. <<JOSH was the first one to mention your name, i just replied to it>>: Actually I didn't. I mentioned someone ELSE's real name and lynati got bent over it. <<He gave me the BEST idea I have heard of>>: My school produces some of the most creative senior pranks I've seen. But I dole them out carefully ;-) <<is that even possible?>>: Absolutely. No matter how much you are hated, there is someone out there that hates you more. And its 99% likely that person goes to your college. And by murphy's law, they'll be your roommate. <<someone told me that you were really cute, but I can saayy 8) besides, you know anyway>>: Yes, I do. And I verified it was them by asking. HOWEVER, her opinion is invalid. Why? Because she's taken. The opinion of any female who is taken/spoken for/betrothed/engaged/married or otherwise unavailable is effectively worthless to me. So instead of accepting it as flattery, I'll accept it as a theory and try to test it alongside other similar theories I've heard ;-) <<that is the best idea I have ever heard of>>: It always was MY favorite. <<That will take a while, so you will have to brief me some more>>: The best time to do it is in the middle of the night, so the guy wakes up and says "What the !@#$!??" Barring that, I'd recommend doing it during school hours (he's not likely to be home then). <<Ive got lots of people that would help me>>: You'll need them. Forks get expensive in this kind of quantity. <<ill send you a nice picture of my work>>: Much appreciated. <<you have dsl right?>>: At college, yeah. But in LA, I have to use a slow-dem because my family is too far from the switching station (we can't really afford broadband access right now anyway). But as soon as we get it...I'm setting up a wireless network in the house and I'll play you starcraft FROM THE TOILET! ;-) <<Who says you will lose?>>: I suppose there is a reasonable chance of victory.

Ravyn: <<THREE finals down, two to go>>: Congrats! Good luck on the rest. <<I'm sorry to all you people out there selling books back this time of year>>: I keep my text books. Makes the library that much more impressive...when I build it. <<Scary, ain't it>>: Scarier still that the person would be female. <<when you get tested, do they draw blood, or prick a finger, or what?>>: Actually its a saliva test. They're looking for the antibodies, not the actual virus itself. However, I'm not sure if the same antibodies that are produced when HIV is present are also present against other diseases...the test doesn't sound full-proof. If they say I have it, I'm gonna go get the several-hundred dollar second opinion ;-) <<are you *sure* you want to introduce mistletoe into the room again?>>: I sure as hell don't!

Aaron: <<A man can wear silk boxers and still be a man, but silk briefs would be panties>>: This is true. <<Death: Pity us all>>: Okay I will. <<When I die, I want them to open me up and find my colon wrapped in a fuzzy meat sweater>>: Kinky.

Silvadel: <<looks like you will have some semi-unusual requirements>>: But there are plenty of laptops out there that will meet them. The problem is matching "large hard drive" with "12-1400 dollars". <<consider a raid setup for your main computer>>: That's a little more complicated than a simple external backup drive. But it is a good idea. <<a non-standard but decent solution might be an external hard drive>>: Yeah...and if portability was a requirement she could get an external portable drive. The problem is that those are made with laptop hard drive anyway and will be just as expensive (or more so) than incorporating the space.

Greg X: <<Take Spike off of Buffy and move him to "Angel" so he can regain his dignity and things will be perfect>>: Now THAT would be interesting. <>: The hot chicks! <<it takes a well balanced individual in the Centre to make a great leader>>: Colin Powell for president! <<And if some people dislike what you've done with it, wait till they see what I do with Gathering 2003>>: I guess those would be the same group of people, wouldn't it? <<cost him quite a bit of money>>: See, I don't think the point of a prank is to cause damage (monetary or otherwise). Just to annoy, irk, or weird out. <>: Oh, that's just me then. <<often recreated the scene where Serpentor impaled Duke with one of his snake javelins, and I turned out fine>>: Well, "fine" is a relative term ;-) <<kids don't know the parents between fantasy and reality, well I did, and you know why? Because I had parents, that's why>>: Or maybe just because you have an IQ above 4. <<Cartman said he had special armor that was impervious to American bullets>>: Somehow, if they redid that episode, I doubt that Cartman would want to be Bin Laden, seeing as he just kicked his butt 3 episodes ago. <<How the Hell did I type that>>: One letter at a time.

Terrky: <<you just gotta get in there and stop takeing crap from people>>: For once, I agree with you.

Gside: <>: I am SO jealous! I want fangirls! <<Wait, I've never broken the room. $#!@>>: Neither have I, and I post 7 of these things every week ;-) <<Apple does the same thing to us with Quicktime>>: Hmmm, good point. <<it makes you wonder where the briefs came from>>: From the underpants gnomes, where else? <<It's amazing to see how much the size of my classes increase for exams>>: LOL so true!

Okay, I've studied over 6 hours today, I'm done. My head is fried...and I didn't even GET to math. Oh well, tomorrow is a new day.

Absolutely nothing should be concluded from these figures except that no conclusion can be drawn from them.
- Joseph L. Brothers, Linux/PowerPC Project

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 02:30:45 AM
IP: 64.170.153.208

Just thought you might want to know that I am a glorious man. That, and I have fangirls.

Imzadi> <<What a worthless poster!>>: I know. Wait, I've never broken the room. $#!@.
<<the gerbils are running scared>>: As well they should.
<<Why on earth do they do that?>>: Not sure, but Apple does the same thing to us with Quicktime.
<<Then it would mean nothing>>: But it makes you wonder where the briefs came from.

Niamhgold> Good luck on the review that already happened.

Spacebabie> Hope everything went well with your father.

Lynati> <<some professors- one of mine, as an example- WILL DROP YOU A LETTER GRADE IF YOU ARE LATE TO CLASS. PERMANENTLY>>: And then there are the ones who don't care if you're there or not. It's amazing to see how much the size of my classes increase for exams.

Gunjack> <<Sadly, every time I start thinking about coming back, someone reminds me of exactly why I left... but that's life, ne'?>>: !$@#. I must have had it set on reverse and broadcast.

Imzadi> <>: And I never have.

Fire Storm> <<And soon no skirted schoolgirl was neither Unviolated, innocent, nor unsatisfied>>: Ah, such sweet dreams.
<<In Netscape, all the " marks show up as a question mark in a square>>: I have the question mark, but not the square. And occaisonally some other symbols when it's feeling bored.

Ravyn> <>: I'd probably just weep openly.

Aaron> <<A man can wear silk boxers and still be a man, but silk briefs would be panties>>: Sluggy this time, but I brought it in here first. But it was a good while back.
<<He doesn't deserve a roomful of Reis>>: That was not my point, but you are probably right.
And because it was a request, you can now find Five for Fighting's Superman at the usual place.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:16:17 AM
IP: 165.230.240.118

Have begun a new fanfic. Tentative title: Clan of One. This is Hippolyta's story, a sequel to Bad Girls, and it was scary to realize that Bad Girls was written _last_ December. Has it really been a whole year already?

Fire Storm > 'twas Pissy's; though I am still waiting for SJ's story that will prove how easy smut-writin' is ; )

Spacebabie > good wishes to your dad.

Book stuff > have just heard from the local library; they're going to give me a slot on their 2002 program. So I will get to do a reading and a talk some Sunday coming up in Feb or March. With luck, Knight of the Basilisk will be out by then, and maybe Black Roses on tape too!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, December 10, 2001 11:54:14 PM
IP: 64.24.34.102

lynati-<<And I agree with Josh that Nukes is rather...lacking>>

some people just aren't like other people. you never know. nukes may be a really inellegent person, but he just doesn't show it, and he comes across as immature, which brings me to this:

Nukes- <<you eventually told me you were talking your pet and putting it down. I DIDNT KNOW THAT!! i use "lol" to continue the conversation when im not reading it. thats just something i do. was it wrong in the situation? of COURSE it was. im SO SORRY for that.I WASNT LAUGHING AT THE DEATH OF YOUR PET!!! i would _NEVER_ laugh at something like that. whether you want to or not, you are dislikeing me for the wrong reason>>

i may know your problem: stop being so appolegetic! if she feels you owe her an appology, then give her one, but this "lol" thing is old. some people just like to be that way. you're obviously wasting your time. come on man, ya got better things to do. be friends with the people who wanna be your friends, and stop trying to be friends with people who don't want to be, even if it is for the wrong reason. stand up and say, i aint gonna take this crap from you, i said i was sorry, and move on. i understand that "lol" can be used as an acknowledgement. i do it all the time. and if lynati can't accept that, then move on.

i always like to say that you can never be TOO nice, but you just gotta get in there and stop takeing crap from people. if you say something wrong, appolgize, and move on. your gonna make yourself crazy goin outta your way like that. ;) you got people who wanna be your friend, and if and when lynati decides to be your friend, let them come to you. you've done your best you can to be friendly, let someone else try.

*please exuse all the crappy typos i have made, haven't got time to go back and fix em all*

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [terry_kath_2ooo@yahoo.com]
Kansas
Monday, December 10, 2001 11:20:49 PM
IP: 63.252.223.89

ACK, evil typo!

<<They said kids don't know the parents between fantasy and reality, well I did, and you know why?>> DAMMIT! I meant difference, not parents. How the Hell did I type that?
Greg Bishansky
Monday, December 10, 2001 10:50:18 PM
IP: 216.179.4.123

*** ANGEL SPOILERS ***

Great episode, nice development on Angel. Yes this is definetly the better of the two Joss Whedon shows. Take Spike off of Buffy and move him to "Angel" so he can regain his dignity and things will be perfect.

I still like Holzt a lot, and the scene with him training that woman is a nice reminder of the first time Buffy went out slaying as seen in the flashback in "The Becoming" way back in season 2 of "Buffy"

Loved the scene at the end where Angel burst into Wolfram & Hart's boardroom, and Wesley kicked ass with that flamethrower.

So, Angel's son is named Conner. I may be missing something, but does anyone know of the reason he chose that name?

Great episode. 9 ot of 10.

*** End Angel Spoilers ***

I want to see that video of Osama bin Laden.

TALEWEAVER> Nice idea, I'm beind discussing particular characters. Any suggestions who we start with? Harthoth? Apep? Madoc? Payne? Tamora? Mei Hsing? I could name a whole bunch.

SJ> <<In the future, please reserve your flame wars to more fun points of discussion, like differences in ideology.>> Agreed. As for ideology, I've decided that both the Liberals and the Conservatives are dumbasses and it takes a well balanced individual in the Centre to make a great leader ;) <<It's been at least a few weeks since we've yelled at each other over religion, right?>> Jesus is NOT the Lord! Krishna is! ;) <<Or jingoistic patriotism?>> God/Allah/Jehova/Zeus/Ra/Odin/Krishna/Buddha/JMS bless America! ;) <<Now we got flame wars over jokes about AIDS testing. Which I wouldn't really mind, except that it wasn't a particularly funny joke about AIDS testing, and that's just unforgiveable.>> Definetly.

CHRISTINE> Great issue of Avalon Mists as always. And if some people dislike what you've done with it, wait till they see what I do with Gathering 2003 ;)

JOSH> <<If you really want to irk him, take about 10,000 plastic forks and stick them in his lawn in neat little rows (a senior prank from my old high school).>> Or do what my friends and I did and stuff a potato up the exhaust pipe of their car. We did that to our principal and it cost him quite a bit of money getting his engine looked at when he took it to the shop. Either that, or light a good fire. Still, yours was creative. <<But I don't think we need a flame war about people not liking each other. That's what AIM is for.>> I never did that over AIM.

LYNATI> <<And I’d show my art to Osama Bin Laden if he asked to see it; I am that desperate for feedback.>> Hey, feel free to show it to me whenever you want, you'll always get honest feedback.

SPACEBABIE> Best wishes to you and your dad.

Geez I'm watching the news and this group of crybabies are again putting up there list of Top Ten Toys parents should not buy their kids. Someone tell these people to go get laid. I used to play with Transformers and GI Joes as a kid and often recreated the scene where Serpentor impaled Duke with one of his snake javelins, and I turned out fine. You don't see me going out and shooting at people and engaging in crimes against humanity. They said kids don't know the parents between fantasy and reality, well I did, and you know why? Because I had parents, that's why.

Speaking of kids, I was walking past the local Playground today and some second graders were playing a game of Americans VS Al Qaeda, reminded me of the scene in "South Park" where the kids were playing Americans vs Bosnians and Cartman said he had special armor that was impervious to American bullets. Also reminds me of back in third grade, when the Gulf War was taking place and we played Americans vs Iraqis on the playground... don't remember much except this weird kid who was always Saddam Hussein (by choice).

Happy Channukah all!
Greg Bishansky
Monday, December 10, 2001 10:32:34 PM
IP: 216.179.4.123

The new Pretender movie was . . . interesting. Expect a big review tomorrow from me.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, December 10, 2001 10:05:15 PM
IP: 204.94.193.55

silvadel/mooncat: So does Apple (refurb iBooks/TiBooks, that is). Silvadel really hit the mark with the external hard drive idea too...they're cheap, and you can also get portable ones. Laptop hard drive space is expensive. When I bought my iBook, I went with the cheapest hard drive option apple offered, and I would have taken less if necessary. 15 is more than i need in a secondary machine.
Josh
Monday, December 10, 2001 07:45:10 PM
IP: 64.170.153.208

Mooncat -- welcome... It looks like you will have some semi-unusual requirements.

For a place to store all of those files, first off consider a raid setup for your main computer. This doesnt cost much and you can have 2 drives set up so that if something goes wrong your data doesnt go away unless it takes both drives.

If you want a huge hard drive for your notebook BUT most of it is not needed when you are at remote locations or if weight isnt of paramount importance, a non-standard but decent solution might be an external hard drive. Right now hard drive prices are very cheap, but large notebook hard drives are not cheap. You could get an 80 gb hard drive and an external cage for it for less than the the difference between getting your notebook with a fairly standard 20gb hard drive and one of the large 48mb notebook drives.

Oh also on the topic of dells, they do sell refurb ones also.
silvadel
Monday, December 10, 2001 07:26:24 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Heh. Trying to post more often...

FS> <<Can beings... that don't have eyes have a staring contest.>> Hmm. I must rethink this now...

Josh> <<what's wrong with having your breifs removed?>> A man can wear silk boxers and still be a man, but silk briefs would be panties. I realize that's not an answer, and that amuses me. <<I'm sure Playboy's already got it somewhere.>> Last I heard, they were trying to hire MainFrame to do an animated version of Little Annie Fannie, so anything's possible. <> Death: Pity us all. <<Followed by throwing it all up, right?>> Ugh, no. I paid for it, I'm keeping it. When I die, I want them to open me up and find my colon wrapped in a fuzzy meat sweater. <<Out of?>> Five. <<Well, Gendo essentially comes with a roomfull of Reis, so that kind of balances out.>> He doesn't deserve a roomful of Reis! <<PVP?> Indeed.

Spacebabie> Good luck to your dad.

Lynati> <> No, I don't think so. I would remember that.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Monday, December 10, 2001 06:31:05 PM
IP: 209.33.140.100

Normally, I use Harthoth, but today I felt like a change. I thought I might inject some TGS discussion in the room. What I had in mind was similar to what they're doing in the Main Gargoyle comment room with the DCV. But instead of discussing a particular episode, I thought we'd discuss characters, plot threads, etc. If this is something everyone else can get behind, post what you'd like to discuss. One note please, this is talking about what's been written, lets not use it needle the TGS staff about timetables and premiers. Any thoughts?
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Monday, December 10, 2001 06:30:37 PM
IP: 134.71.41.95

THREE finals down, two to go! Somehow, my brain doesn't hurt like it should after three finals in one day ... it just feels all mushy and happy. Hm ... where's Coyote when ya need 'im, eh? ;)

I think I've officially lost it. I'm not sure how I did on the tests today, but I'm happy. Woo whee, what was in the water 'round here, huh? ;)

Plus I got $18 back at the bookstore for two books that were worth $111 when I got them. Thank goodness I'm not paying for *those!* I'm sorry to all you people out there selling books back this time of year ... :(

Josh> <<All that studying hurts.>> Sure does. Hang in there! :( <<LOL! Just wait till the final.>> I did ... and I screamed. j/k :) <<Someone speaks "josh" in here.>> Scary, ain't it? ;) << And free to boot! Can you think of a good reason NOT to?>> Hey, I'm just curious ... when you get tested, do they draw blood, or prick a finger, or what? ;) Because if it involves big huge needles, that'd be my reason not to. ;) I say good job for getting the test, Josh ... hey, it's free!

FS> <<Ahh... well, you see, I don't have to worry about that, seeing how I already HAVE my hot chick!>> **L** That's cute. :)

Aingeal> <<Life is a pain.. school sucks and I am moving sat.>> **hugs** Don't I know it, gal. If you ever need someone to listen to ya rant a little, feel free to point yer mouse my way. :)

DPH> <<hologram of mistle toe>> Heh heh ... are you *sure* you want to introduce mistletoe into the room again??? ;) *L*
Ravyn
Monday, December 10, 2001 06:22:04 PM
IP: 150.135.180.226

lynati-<<And I agree with Josh that Nukes is rather...lacking>> maybe you have a point. ill try to grow up. but there _are_ some people who think i have a good maturity level.

<<And “participating in high school” doesn’t mean pep rallies or dances; Gods know I never went to any...wait, I’m a bad example.
I’m 20, and I still consider myself a kid. And having a car and driving has nothing to do with it; I know how to drive.>> whoa. does that mean that we have something *common*? that would be cool.

<<You should not have dragged my name into this at all; the relationship between us has nothing to do with the relationship between you and Josh. >> you know, JOSH was the first one to mention your name, i just replied to it.

<<And for Godzilla’s sake, why do you keep trying to make friends with people who obviously aren’t interested?>>

lynati, i only try to make friends with people who are not interested for the _wrong_ reason.

to tell you the truth, i was not even LOOKING at what you and lain were typing to me last year. i was doing my chemistry lab homework, so i had 100% of my attention on that. the only word i remember from that conversation was "angus". dont know who he was though.

you eventually told me you were talking your pet and putting it down. I DIDNT KNOW THAT!! i use "lol" to continue the conversation when im not reading it. thats just something i do. was it wrong in the situation? of COURSE it was. im SO SORRY for that.I WASNT LAUGHING AT THE DEATH OF YOUR PET!!! i would _NEVER_ laugh at something like that. whether you want to or not, you are dislikeing me for the wrong reason.

<< And I’d show my art to Osama Bin Laden if he asked to see it; I am that desperate for feedback. >>

your art is EXCEPTIONALLY good. I especially loved “catall”.
You’re an incredible artist. You have an incredible amount of talent, and im sure im not the first one to tell you that. I would really love to see more of your art if your willing.

And what the $((* is up with that getting out of “health class/ knowing where your principal lives” comment? ...*shakes her head*...

Hey, you don’t even know the a$$hole. Besides, don’t act like im the only one who is going to get him back for his absurdity ( HE TOOK FRENCH FRIES OFF THE MENU FOR LUNCH!! INEXUSABLE .. but that’s not the only thing, obviously)
And you should take a look at what josh posted to me about that. He gave me the BEST idea I have heard of.

<<you are going to be rooming with a person who will be liking you faaaar less than I do>> is that even possible?

I bang my head against my desk every time you post to me, because its always so vindictive, and I know its for the wrong reason.

We need to change this. Like I said before, I didn’t even know what you were talking about, that’s why I was so surprised to learn that you disliked me when I did. I think that you have gotten so used to this that you have no care to change, no care to realize that I am not the person you think I am.

Oh, I really like “kallismaller” too.

<<ferret on crack.>> wow, that’s not so bad, considering.

Yggdrasil- <<Uh...is it safe to come in.>> of course it is. This was never a flame war, and if it was it would have been so pathetic.

If you don’t want to tell me the college you go to , that’s fine I was just curious.

Josh- <<Stop it you're making me jealous! ;-)>> someone told me that you were really cute, but I can saayy 8) besides, you know anyway.

<<And don't make fun of one of the few existing responsible sexually active college-age males. I don't deserve it.>> your right, you don’t . im sorry. Wont be that way again, I promise.

<<If you really want to irk him, take about 10,000 plastic forks and stick them in his lawn in neat little rows (a senior prank from my old high school).>>

that is the best idea I have ever heard of. That will take a while, so you will have to brief me some more. Ive got lots of people that would help me, though.

Im seriously thinking about doing that. And when I do, ill send you a nice picture of my work 8)

<<However you can count on that starcraft game. I'll probably lose, I haven't played in months and I don't have time to practice...but are you free the 19th during the day (or late at night)? Otherwise it'll have to wait till January. I wont play starcraft over a slow-dem.>> you have dsl right?? Wait, you must be referring to some other place.

Awesome, I look forward to playing you. Who says you will lose? The protoss got a lot of good changes in the newest patch, I suggest that you go to www.blizzard.com and look at them, since you did say that it had been a while since you played.

Seeya then 8)

Dph- <<NukesGoBoom - I watch the room a lot. But do I post that often? No. If you think you have to post more than twice a day, you don't have to use your image but once. Also, if you had one post Sunday, it would have been bigger than Imzadi's.>>

Your right, I stand corrected. Ill definitely think before I type, you know?

Guys, WHAT flame war. That wasn’t a flame war. If it is, then its pretty pathetic..

This thing didn’t even last 2 days. No one got “bent of out shape” over it either. Its over, with everyone happy or unaffected.

NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Monday, December 10, 2001 04:56:08 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Ah....flame wars.

I remember the good old days, when a flame war I was involved in would rage on for days, and would usually end with someone threatening to leave the room for good or actually doing it (of course, then they'd pop back up a few weeks later, but such is the nature of "forever". Forever only lasts as long as our tolerance for ennui).

Now we just have people quibbling over the most inconsequential of things (that is to say, as if any flame wars are of consequence). This past flame war was about the weakest one I've ever seen since...well, the pseudo flame war between Josh and Crazy / Patrick a couple weeks back. Oh wait - maybe that's a good thing.

So I'll say this: some of you need to grow a f!cking thick skin.

If you're questioning whether I mean YOU, in particular, when I say "some", than YES, I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU. If you have to stop and think, "Is he referring to me?", then let me answer that question for you: Yes. I am.

In the future, please reserve your flame wars to more fun points of discussion, like differences in ideology. It's been at least a few weeks since we've yelled at each other over religion, right? Or jingoistic patriotism? Now we got flame wars over jokes about AIDS testing. Which I wouldn't really mind, except that it wasn't a particularly funny joke about AIDS testing, and that's just unforgiveable.

Cause I sympathize with Josh....probably because, he pretty much all but admitts (and sometimes does admit) that he's a smartass, and yet when he says something that's smartass, some of you act like the sky has just fallen and you're shocked as all hell.

Bottom line: Some of you are really getting bent out of shape over nothing. And unless you're like me, someone who gets bent out of shape over everything, that's just not a healthy attitude to have.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Monday, December 10, 2001 01:56:30 PM
IP: 207.172.11.148

**SOMETHING FUNNY AND SERIOUS**
1st, I'd like to mention that my house has 2 deep freezes pretty full [it's irrelevant that most of the stuff in there has been there since before '95]. Anyway, I went in the deep freeze that put stuff in there and I happenned to notice unworn blue jeans in there. There's only one problem with that: the size of those blue jeans don't match the occupants of my house. I also know without a doubt, those blue jeans were put in there recently because yesterday I pulled out pizza from the deep freeze and it wasn't there. I questioned my dad about it and he said he din't put them in there. I called my sister-in-law (my brother's family occasionally puts perishable items in our freeze for storage) to find out if anyone in her family did it. She said the blue jeans don't match anyone's size in her family. Now I'm left with a minor mystery and will be checking a deep freeze in my house daily to see if the items stay in there. Next time I talk to my brother, I will ask him about it. Of course, that also makes me wonder if items weren't removed from the deep freeze by someone not in the family.
**END SOMETHING FUNNY AND SERIOUS**

I knew things were quiet for too long. DisHarmony had to show her face.

**DPH snaps his fingers and a hologram of mistle toe appears in the CR, floating near the ceiling.**

NukesGoBoom - I watch the room a lot. But do I post that often? No. If you think you have to post more than twice a day, you don't have to use your image but once. Also, if you had one post Sunday, it would have been bigger than Imzadi's.

Strangely enough, despite not posting yesterday, I can't find enough stuff to post about today. Oh well, that will change when TD starts airing. OR not finding enough stuff might because I haven't had breakfast yet.

Imzadi - The funny thing is in a place like yahoo groups or ezboard, I believe in registration. Why? It makes it easier to moderate the posts. If it gets to the point where too many morons show up from nowhere breaking the CR rules consistently, then at that point will I support registeration in order to post.

My chiropractor tells me I should be ready to be released by the end of the month or is it the end of the year? Either way, I'm not too sure about that. I still experience the pain, but I can't visualize the steps required to be normal from my point of view.

I can't wait to watch the new Pretender movie premiering tonight. I hope it doesn't air at the same time as JL, though.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, December 10, 2001 01:21:58 PM
IP: 204.94.193.16

**COMP RANT***

I'm going to kill something... prolly my computer...it tried to tell me this morning that my C drive isn't accessible.... AHHHH all my finals are in here.. i think i'm screwed.

**END**

::sighs:: Life is a pain.. school sucks and I am moving sat. I'm in a generally annoyed mood, but life could still be worse I think.... grr....

Anyone know a good sold wall in here to hit my head on?

I'll catch people later... i'm tired... need to animate things, and finish up on Portfolio.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

::runs away into her lil round room with padded walls::
Aingeal Delemorte
Monday, December 10, 2001 11:37:51 AM
IP: 207.42.162.184

Begin DC death

Spacebabie grabs DC and starts to tie him down

DC ”Wait you have the wrong guy!”

SB ”What do you mean?”
DC “You want my cousin P.R. Outage. He is the one that caused that power blip that made you loose all the data.”

SB ”Fine” She grabs P.R. Outage and straps him too the ground. She equipped one of the new IT s with spikes and rolled over P.R over and over again until he was ground beef.

End death

I had a lot of images drawn on the computer when the power blipped. When I say blip I mean we lost power for a second. Luckily most of the stuff in my room (alarm, VCR clock) Are not sensitive and I didn’t have to reset them. The bad news is I have to start from scratch.

Everyone thanks for all the warm happy thoughts.

Josh>>He is going to have his prostrate removed since that is the main sure bet he will get the cancer removed.

Flame war thank goodness I avoided that.

Spacebabie
Monday, December 10, 2001 10:54:39 AM
IP: 67.25.54.118

Does one in here know anything about Fox taking their Staruday morning line off the air. I read about on a web site. But it did not know for sure if they are taking off the morning line up. I hope they don't, Tamers is just now getting to the good episodes. The Tamers have all ready kill 8 of the 12 Devas. Only the Dog, Monkey, Rabbit and Dragon Devas are left and 6 episodes before Beelzemon appear.

Spacebabie: I hope everything goes well with your Dad.

Blue Eyes White Dragon - [Flamedramon12@aol.com]
Winter Park, Fl, USA
Monday, December 10, 2001 10:17:20 AM
IP: 169.139.180.45

Christine: IMHO, you SHOULD remain in charge of Avalon Mists!!!!! Anyone who says otherwise is just jealous of you!
[granted, if you say that, then i'm in a bind] :)

Rodlox - [Rodlox @hotmail.com]
Monday, December 10, 2001 08:57:00 AM
IP: 24.4.252.27

Hi all. I saw last week that somebody got hit with that new virus and a couple of days later was still having trouble. But the posts were buried in the archive and I don't remember who had the trauma and I don't have time to look.
However, I ran across the following information in my local Sunday paper and thought I'd pass it along just in case it's still needed.

How to get rid of "Goner"

Re install your anti virus program. Goner deletes critical files the programs need to clean your system.

Once you've done that, go get the updated version of the program of your choice and install that.

Remove virus.

If you don't have anti virus software you can still get rid of Goner.

Press F8 during your start up.
From the on screen menu select DOS (or use the DOS access protocol for your particular flavor of Windows)
Change to the Windows\System directory
at the C: prompt type:
CD\Windows\System
once you're there type:
del goner.scr

restart your computer and that should be the end of Goner.

Best of luck to whoever needs it.

kathy
Monday, December 10, 2001 07:54:32 AM
IP: 24.98.56.90

Robby: 
Ah, the only comic that I can't get on-line that I have read with ANY determination is the "No Mans Land" part of Batman.
BUT if I ask a co-worker about ANYTHING having to do with comics or games, I get a 3-6 hour discussion/speech.

Imzadi: <WHAT!? And that's canadian too! We're paying $49.95 US!>
Ok... That's yet ANOTHER reason to take over Canada!
<At 13?>
Na. Your parents probably got like that in their late teens or early twenties.
<Yes, well I have more pressing issues on my mind. Like how to get hot chicks>
Ahh... well, you see, I don't have to worry about that, seeing how I already HAVE my hot chick!
<Should be interesting>
Oh yeah. The weirdest part will be when they try to use US troops against Americans.
<All the more reason for the gov't to restrict access to knowledge>
But enough people will ALWAYS know!
<Believe it or not, there are some problems that this doesn't solve>
Depends on which movie you watch!
"Oh no! The nuclear weapon is going to explode! What can we do!"
"WAIT! I know! Let's have sex! That will stop the bomb!
<No, he said "on Earth">
Michigan is on Earth! Really, the movies portray Michigan is such a negative light.
But I have no doubt that LA and California is the cauldron of hell it is in the movies!
<A better question would be "why waste the round when you have a battering ram tank?">
Because the round is more fun!

Christine: <THANK YOU!!! Saved my bacon, sweetie!>
'Twernt nothing! I was looking forward to Avalon Mists and I wanted it up!
THAT, and it is fun to figure out how to get into Wyvern Web! ;p
<The story he sent was in December of 1998. Three years ago>
Who was that? SJ? Pissy?
And I think you are doing fine with Avalon Mists! I hope, if you want to continue, you do so for many years!
In fact, I would almost be afraid for anyone else to take over! You maintain a good level of order and quality. Anyone else may make the standards random and/or chaotic.

Gside: 
"And lo came forth the Tentacled One,
His tentacles went hither and thither,
And soon no skirted schoolgirl was neither
Unviolated, innocent, nor unsatisfied,
For He was Lord Naughtius"

Lynati: Let me guess... you type your posts in Word and post them in IE, right?
In Netscape, all the " marks show up as a question mark in a square.
Well, at least on my system.
Fire Storm - [<--- One of these days I WILL update that site... Maybe.]
Monday, December 10, 2001 06:31:27 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Few things can match the unbridled frustration of waking up and discovering people yelling at you. That said, I got over it quickly enough to go and study.

And study I did...for far too many hours. Mechanics, linear algebra, and dynamics. Not fun stuff, really. All that studying hurts.

And tomorrow I have to be up for a review at 9AM! What's up with that?! It's supposed to be "dead week" (or dead 2 days, as it were).

Nukes: <<real, live, attractive, G I R L S (they kind that ya wounldnt think would have HIV>>: Stop it you're making me jealous! ;-) And its not the ones I *date* that I'm concerned about, btw. Its the one-night stands that I got tested for. I try to be careful, but I am a hormone-driving college boy, after all. And don't make fun of one of the few existing responsible sexually active college-age males. I don't deserve it. All I'm trying to do is protect the world. I shared that detail in here because you guys are my friends (well, most of you). I didn't deserve any sort of joke at all. <<this new principle is a #@$$ing a$$hole. fortunatly, i know where he lives>>: If you really want to irk him, take about 10,000 plastic forks and stick them in his lawn in neat little rows (a senior prank from my old high school). <<thanks man>>: Welcome. <<josh prolly has better things to do>>: Indeed...like study. However you can count on that starcraft game. I'll probably lose, I haven't played in months and I don't have time to practice...but are you free the 19th during the day (or late at night)? Otherwise it'll have to wait till January. I wont play starcraft over a slow-dem. <>: Oh I'm in, definitely ;-)

Silvadel: <<IMHO the best way to shop for them these days is online>>: I wholly agree. No better way to ensure getting what you want for the right price. <<Dell has good offerings in the notebook venue>>: As does Apple, though their graphics cards are ATI mobility's, I believe. And for digital video editing few laptops beat the Titanium Powerbook G4. It even won some big network award for best piece of news-crew technology or something like that.

Metaldemon: <<He should try to fit in with the masses and be fake>>: No one should try to be fake. Come on, you know me. Do you really think I'd promote this kind of stuff? <<stand in front of a mirror naked and repeatedly say, "You, you macho stud of a winner, are going to pick up chicks!>>: Gah! I would never do such a thing. I don't think I'm a stud, and believe me I have quite enough trouble picking up girls that I'd know better than to tell myself that I was going to (no, spacebabie hitting on me doesn't change a thing). <<he almost reminds me of Bud Bundy>>: LOL! Ouch! ;-) Well at least my sex life is slightly better than his. But then again he got to kiss some famous chicks. <<don't claim to be an adult if you act like a kid>>: Most of the time, I claim to be a kid. I think being an adult is not just a "maturity" thing, its an accepting of certain responsibilities, certain realities. I still "act" like a kid. But I do KNOW that I act like a kid, and I also know that some of what maturity is about is knowing when its okay to act like a kid. Sometimes I act like an adult, sometimes I don't. <<Let's just drop the whole thing so no one else will comment>>: Actually just trying to avoid another flame war. I like it when they're centered around something that ISN"T a particular person in here. Politics, computers, religion, whatever. But I don't think we need a flame war about people not liking each other. That's what AIM is for.

Ravyn: <<If I have to calculate another flux integral, I think I'll scream!>>: LOL! Just wait till the final. <<Nukes shouldn't be allowed to hang out with older people, or should be required to go to inane high school social events or anything like that>>: Thank you. Someone speaks "josh" in here. <>: I *know* I don't ;-)

Oracle: <<Either I'm smoking crack or I'm bored>>: Or you're the first inspired by the second? <<why does what he thinks matter?>>: As future dictator of earth, my opinions carry more weight than anyone elses ;-) <<He goes and does a responsible thing like that and yes you DO insult him by insinuating that he's gay and also laughing at the fact that he did it at all>>: Thank you! And here I thought I was actually doing something good and decent. Oh well, I guess no good deed goes unpunished. <<if they're readily available, then take one>>: And free to boot! Can you think of a good reason NOT to? <>: Now lets just see if I was smart enough to not get HIV... <<Now they all sleep in cuz the line up is sucking and its getting worse>>: I noticed that with my brother. He used to always wake up early when he was younger...now he sleeps as late as I do!

Shadowrider: Don't worry, I think we're done.

Terrky: <>: Hurt them. Identity theft is a horrible thing.

Hazel: <<When it rains it pours, ne?>>: Indeed.

Spacebabie: Hope he comes out in one piece (preferrably a living piece). What's he going in for?

Lynati: <<having a car and driving has nothing to do with it; I know how to drive>>: Any jerk can get a license...and many do (see Los Angeles). <<Josh is not above average>>: Oh yes I am. The people who post longer than me post once a week, or once a month. <<given Josh’s subjects, I imagine he does, too>>: Ugh no way. I do that only for history classes, or other classes where I feel I need to record lecture in order to get a good grade (usually this happens once a year). <<At least what Josh says has substance>>: That might be a stretch. <<why do you keep trying to make friends with people who obviously aren’t interested?>>: I think he has an admirable goal, that everyone in the fandom should be on good terms. I wish it were possible, but our personalities are all too different. <>: Online? I wouldn't own a computer ;-) <<laughing at a college student who is late for class>>: Until you mentioned the alarm clock prank, I had no idea what this was referring to! ;-)

Yggdrasil: <<age and maturity do not go hand in hand>>: I could not agree more. <<Driving Recklessly>>: Woo hoo! <>: I hear that. <<No you don't want take home exams>>: No, I don't want take home exams ::mindless stare::

Mooncat: <<laptop>>: If that's your price range, I'd recommend Apple's iBook. They have a $100 instant rebate right now, so the prices rance from 12-1600. The cheapest model comes with a cd-rom drive, but DVD, CD-RW and DVD/CD-RW combo drive options are available too. The hard drive goes up to 30 gig, more than enough to carry a bunch of text files. The largest laptop hard drive that one can buy right now is 48 GB, and that hard drive alone costs $500, dramatically increasing the price of a laptop. You can build a custom iBook at store.apple.com. The iBook is incredibly durable (it can be dropped 2.5 feet without losing access to your data), and has more than enough ports to add all kinds of peripherals. I've got one, and I love it to death. <<and lots of memory so I can use it as a back up of my text files>>: Memory has nothing to do with backing up files. But in any case the iBook starts at 128 and goes up to 640. If you want any more info check out apple or buzz me. Really a great laptop...of course, if money is no object, go with the Titanium G4...very slick laptop.

Alright folks, dreamtime. Hopefully I haven't said anything that will start another flame war.

Going from DOS to Linux is like trading a glider for an F117.
- Lawrence Foard, entropy@world.std.com
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, December 10, 2001 02:10:26 AM
IP: 64.170.153.208

* looks up*

okay, now that is creepy. Aaron, you saw my "crappy comic" with the oversized glasses and the using a mallet to "wedge" the clay, right? I did post that in the yahoo acct. ...?
weeeeeiiirddd...

*out*
Lynati
Monday, December 10, 2001 12:13:33 AM
IP: 67.203.73.81

Spacebabie -- best luck with your dad. I know any surgery can be a stressful thing for one's family. Holiday warmth for you and yours.

Christine -- I think he'll enjoy it *^_~* -- he's a great reader as well as game collector. If not, he knows who he can give his copy of the book to *^_^* ...

**Torn between writing and an irrational urge to clean my office...**

Silvadel -- thanks for the input on the notebooks. I went shopping today, but decided to wait for a while. Looks like most of today's notebooks have DVD/CD RW drives. Woo hoo! I want one with a huge hard drive and lots of memory so I can use it as a back up of my text files. But I don't want to spend the 12 to 14 hundred it will take right now. I'm going to wait and see what get's moved to clearance after New Years. It may just be a pipe dream, I'm on short funds until I know wether I'll be making Gathering 2002.

Ooof. Got the sleepies. Too cold out. Have the temp set for 70s, but it feels like the 50s right now. Course I am in the "office of no heat" set downstairs. Wouldn't be so bad except being below a certain temperature makes me drowsy.

Had sushi for lunch *^_^* mmmmmm....!!!

Did mucho household thingies... sigh.

hmmm... need caffine. or nap. went to bed last night at 5am, and got up at 10am, so I'm a bit short on snooze time.

*mooncat topples over and begins to snooze*

>^vv^<
*snooooooooozzzzzzzzzeeeepuuuurrrrrsnoozzzzzeepuuurrr*

Mooncat
Sunday, December 9, 2001 11:36:35 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Uh...is it safe to come in.

Wow the CR seems to have become a little more hostile in recent days so I'll just post and run.

Spacebabie: My thoughts go with you and your father. I hope all goes well.

Nukes: You didn't miss it, I never posted where I go to school. No offence to anyone here but I do like some anonymity. It is an accredited university in southern Ontario.

Gunjack: Wow, good to read you again, for a while I was posting more often :)

*****Quick Rant On Being a Kid*****
Much of the current flame (which I hope as subsided) has been based upon the attitudes of some members of the CR. One topic that was brought up is one of maturity and acting like a kid. I know that most of the CR is probably in the 20-30 range. I myself am included in this group. But age and maturity do not go hand in hand.
For instance here are a list of my hobbies:

1. RPG's (I have been playing with friends for years. We're still the same crazy bunch.)
2. Mindless Videogames
3. Driving Recklessly
4. Practical Jokes
5. Paintball
6. In general Acting Immature.

Obviously there is much more to me than that. In the lab I don't joke. At funerals, weddings ect. I don't joke, any other time it's fair game.

Just wanted to say I still am a kid. I just have better toys now, and no Mother to spoil the fun.

End Minor Rant

Oh yeah the take home exam is done and on that note.

Josh: No you don't want take home exams...Why? 22 pages, 10 point font, single space, no diagrams, primary references=57. Hours of sleep in the past three days=5. Percent of my mark=75% (25% based on seminars on the topics of UVB Damage and Acclimation in Plants and Light Regulated Gene Repair, each was two hours long). And the librarians now know me by name.

Goodnight everyone.
Yggdrasil - [eng050599@hotmail.com]
Ontario, Canada
Sunday, December 9, 2001 11:26:59 PM
IP: 24.102.228.58

Gside><<Now excuse me while I work my telepathy to erode your resistance to posting more often.>> It's awfully nice to be missed... Sadly, every time I start thinking about coming back, someone reminds me of exactly why I left... but that's life, ne'?
Gunjack "click" Valentine
Sunday, December 9, 2001 10:31:43 PM
IP: 192.133.129.4

*In *

More glazing, more firing. *siiigh*

Spacebabie: I hope everything goes well.

# Reeeaaally Random comments pertaining to our newest little flames... #
Age is not the issue; it is, as Ravyn said, a maturity issue. And I agree with Josh that Nukes is rather...lacking. And “participating in high school” doesn’t mean pep rallies or dances; Gods know I never went to any...wait, I’m a bad example.
I’m 20, and I still consider myself a kid. And having a car and driving has nothing to do with it; I know how to drive.
Plenty of people in here make large posts; Josh is not above average,(not by far) it is simply that most people who made big posts on a regular basis have stopped posting at all...also, many of us are studying for finals, and those of us who aren't using a computer to do so are less likely to write long posts. I type up all my notes; it makes them easier to study from. And given Josh’s subjects, I imagine he does, too. And on average, he only posts once a day, while you (nukes, that is) tend to poing in and out of here like a ferret on crack. At least what Josh says has substance. (not to say that mine do.) And Nukes, if you think that I have “forgiven” you, then you obviously are still not listening to what I am saying. I never was your enemy; I never hated you, and I still do not. But no, I do not like you very much. And I’d show my art to Osama Bin Laden if he asked to see it; I am that desperate for feedback. You should not have dragged my name into this at all; the relationship between us has nothing to do with the relationship between you and Josh. And for Godzilla’s sake, why do you keep trying to make friends with people who obviously aren’t interested? Why can’t you just leave us alone, and go play with one of your pretty RL female friends? Gods know that if I had access to attractive members of the opposite sex that I could stand to be around, I wouldn’t be online 1/8 of the time I am. And you should really learn to try to figure out what people are sensitive to, and then *not * make jokes about it. Unless you can tell, and do it anyway, just to piss them off. O.o
And what the $((* is up with that getting out of “health class/ knowing where your principal lives” comment? ...*shakes her head*...
And again, I’m agreeing with Ravyn agreeing with Metaldemon...about not having to be a socialite in high school, but that That was not what Josh was implying.
And Metaldemon....I noticed one of Nukes recent comments, I’ve looked back through all last week (ie, relevent and available material) and Josh did not refer to Nukes as a “Loser” once. Nukes admitted to calling himself one, simply so he could say it before Josh “had a chance to”. The closest Josh ever said was that he didn’t need a “policy” to call someone a loser, and that comment was not even about Nukes, simply mentioned in a response to him. In fact, Josh’s response to Nukes’ insult to him was not to insult him back, but to tell him to seek help. (Which could be construed as an insult, but also simply as a serious suggestion from a concerned individual. (Heh. Like we doubt which it was meant as.)) Nuke’s response to that was yet another of his, “I’m going to play dumb and see if I can’t make the other person look bad” riffs, and by far more insulting-at least to Josh’s intelligence- than what was said to him. The “third round” was escalated because of this- not by Josh. He was only stepping up to match Nuke’s own...whatever we are calling it. Bitching Josh out for bitching out someone who was deliberately trying to annoy him seems a tad...out of place. Esp. given that Josh did not once mention that Nukes should conform to the masses...and musical tastes didn’t even come up. Oh, and laughing at a college student who is late for class, for any reason (esp. if it is because you F’d them over) IS BAD. Look, some professors- one of mine, as an example- WILL DROP YOU A LETTER GRADE IF YOU ARE LATE TO CLASS. PERMANENTLY. Now, to *some* high school people- even some collagers- this may not seem so bad, but in college, you are PAYING to attend class. You are paying for a chance to make good grades, and these grades may in some cases have a serious effect on your career after school. Some things are only open to the top five graduates of the year, as an example. And some of us have scholarships that ride on making a certain GPA, and if we lose it, scraping enough cash to continue our education becomes a problem. So, that .3 that you just lost, because of a stupid prank, means that you are going to have to work for the whole summer, instead of getting a chance to rest up for the next year.
I hope that if you ever go to college, Nukes, you don’t have a scholarship-dependent roomate with an early class, because if you were to take your own suggestion seriously, you are going to be rooming with a person who will be liking you faaaar less than I do, has access to your personal effects, and probably can easily get a hold of a couple gallons of gasoline.
As to what Oracle said...*nods* Exactly.
*hugs Ravyn back*
Okay. Now that I’ve had my “stress relief” for the day, I have to get back to studying.

*Out*
Lynati
Sunday, December 9, 2001 09:59:00 PM
IP: 67.203.73.81

My dad will be going into surgery tommorow morning around 5:30.
Spacebabie
Sunday, December 9, 2001 08:49:45 PM
IP: 216.142.233.73

Mooncat > well, it was published in conjunction with an rpg, so hopefully your friend will keep it and enjoy it! Glad you got the chance to read.

re: AvMists > well, if nobody else steps forward and volunteers, I will of course keep doing it. I'm just making the offer.

Book news > got a little update about Black Roses. They're in the process of moving the studio, so everything's been up in the air. But they will have a list of release dates in January, and mine is 'high on the list.' Yay!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, December 9, 2001 07:59:21 PM
IP: 64.24.186.110

oracle- yeah, you do have a point about that hospital bit. that is pretty dumb. i have to take health class this year cause i alwyas was able to get out of it but now i cant. this new principle is a #@$$ing a$$hole. fortunatly, i know where he lives ;)

josh- thanks man 8) all i wanted.

shadowrider- not really necessary, but thanks for the thought (the im chat) josh prolly has better things to do.

keep practicing brood war! break is almost here 8) i dont know if josh stills wants to play, ask him.

terrky- lol. you too.

metaldemon- wow, you are _really_ loved in the other cr. have fun meeting lain on christmas. she is another person who is extroidinary.

fishy- W~O~W. you have a great talent for music videos, i like it. make more 8). im still picking out a fish for you, lain.

NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Sunday, December 9, 2001 07:22:42 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Josh: yeah, like everyday! Tho today is better, cept illness makes it worse. When it rains it pours, ne?
HazelEyesBlue
Sunday, December 9, 2001 06:59:31 PM
IP: 207.42.162.198

Sorry for 2nd post, something I forgot:

Niamhgold:> Best luck for you portfolio review tomorrow! Not that you need it...you will rock, I am sure! And not for my wishes or for mere "luck"...yours is pure genuine talent, my friend, and even a blind could see it!
I apologize for not saying this in my pervious post...I completely missed the phrase.
Shadowrider
Sunday, December 9, 2001 06:24:26 PM
IP: 213.213.103.5

hey everyone. it's been a loooong time since i last posted here. i just haven't had anything to say.

i found out who was takeing my names and harassing me. she doesn't know that i know yet.

Nukes: Rock on!

anyway... my postmark e-mail is still screwed up, so if anyone has sent me anyting to that account, i didn't get it. *sigh* not that i'm popular enough to get lotsa mail.

anyway, i must be off!

-={Terrky}=-

Terrky K - [Terry_kath_2ooo@yahoo.com]
Sunday, December 9, 2001 06:06:44 PM
IP: 64.197.199.214

Hey, hey, calm down everyone! Ok, we are used to see flame wars starting every now and then, but I think I've never seen one caused by such a silly argument. Josh, Nukes, if you have matters to discuss, I suggest you to meet somewhere else (IM, for example) and discussing there (I said DISCUSSING!) until you have enough. I eventually suggest everyone else to avoid interfering in others' discussions...I know by experience it usually gets things worse.

Ok, off with it.

For everyone: I just finished reading D. J. Goldhagen's "Hitler's willing executors". Extremely interesting yet unpleasant reading. Did anyone else into here read it? I'd like to know some opinions...

Niamhgold:> Hi! Got my email?

Ok for now. More later if I can.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Sunday, December 9, 2001 05:41:53 PM
IP: 213.213.103.5

forgot my name and such.
metaldemon
Sunday, December 9, 2001 05:31:48 PM
IP: 24.219.165.75

josh> <<How am I waving the adult stick around by apologizing?>>
It's not that; it's calling everone here adults and Nukes a kid; then going on to the whole loser bit....anyways, I don't care anymore. I have papers to get back to writing.
I guess I overreacted; apologies everyone. :D
If no one hasn't noticed, I'm not a verbal pascifist. I tend to debate things furiously. It's not that I like being right; I just enjoy proving you wrong. :P
Anonymous
Sunday, December 9, 2001 05:29:54 PM
IP: 24.219.165.75

metaldemon: LOL alright, you can keep bitching if you want. I won't stop you. How am I waving the adult stick around by apologizing?
Josh
Sunday, December 9, 2001 05:16:32 PM
IP: 64.170.153.208

** Niamhgold enters **

Wow. That turned into a flame war rather quickly. Let's just call the whole thing off.

All right, as soon as I finish some scenes, I'll post. A nice long one. Wish me luck on my portfolio review tomorrow!

Adios, and luck to everyone who needs it :)
Niamhgold
Sunday, December 9, 2001 05:09:31 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

Josh>*bangs head against desk* You didn't offend me in manner. I was simply commenting on how stupid the whole thing about calling someone a loser is.
Plus I didn't think you have any authority to wave the adult-stick around; I know I don't.
Oh, here! *pulls out a flower* Let's just drop the whole thing so no one else will comment. *plants flowers in the CR.*
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Sunday, December 9, 2001 05:00:06 PM
IP: 24.219.165.75

Either I'm smoking crack or I'm bored. Eesh..

Nukes> Josh can be an ass, deal with it. You don't have to share the same opinion with him. That also means that you don't have to make a huge deal out of something so trivial. You know who you are, so why does what he thinks matter?
I personally thought that he was telling you to grow up because of your response to him getting an HIV test. He goes and does a responsible thing like that and yes you DO insult him by insinuating that he's gay and also laughing at the fact that he did it at all. Geez man, did you skip health class? Yes, sexually active people should get HIV tests, and if they're readily available, then take one. Maybe you're still under the idea that if someone doesn't -look- like they have AIDS that they're fine, but I see Josh is smarter than that. And yes, if you're 17 you are technically a kid and after your remarks, I tend to agree. If you got run over by a car and got sent to the hospital, you'd go to the pediatric ward with other 4 year olds. Sad, but true.

Christine> I hope you're able to keep up with AV. You're doing a great job, even tho you're not a pizza delivery boy.

Sat. cartoons> <<Here's a piece of additional news: ABC is also considering dropping its Saturday morning line-up for news programs. It looks as if WB's soon going to be having the monopoly on network Saturday morning animation.>> Another reason why the 80's were kickin. Kids actually -wanted- to get up early to watch cartoons then. Now they all sleep in cuz the line up is sucking and its getting worse. :P

*goes to screw around in Photoshop some more*
Oracle
Sunday, December 9, 2001 04:51:03 PM
IP: 24.167.240.110

Okay, I just woke up to discover I've started a flame war. Not my intent. Nukes, I'm sorry. I'll try to be less offensive to you in the future.

Metaldemon, you completely misread most of what I was saying, and given what you know about me already (combined with what the other people in this CR already know about me), I wouldn't have anticipated that response at all. And I'm sorry I offended you too.
Josh
Sunday, December 9, 2001 04:28:48 PM
IP: 64.170.153.208

Ravyn> Yeah, I know josh wasn't telling Nukes to go to dances, etc. The whole point, though, was establishing winners and losers, and how stupid that whole thing is.
I didn't see Josh as justified when he called Nukes a loser, seeing as how josh is a computer geek and goes to conventions for a show that's been canceled for around seven years and just about spazzes when he talks about apple. He's just as much a loser on the whole "winner-loser" structure as I or nukes am. In fact, he almost reminds me of Bud Bundy ;).
Besides, I don't think adults go, "That guy's a loser. Huhuh!" So don't claim to be an adult if you act like a kid.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Sunday, December 9, 2001 04:24:51 PM
IP: 24.219.165.75

ravyn- thank you for adding your $0.02. i appriecate your comment. sure, im 17, the only person younger than me in here is terkky. ive gotten the impression that most people in here are in thier 20's, some in thier 30's. and thats cool with me.

josh- hey, i have nothing against you, but its like every time i talk to you, you punch me in the face, for a reason (that i have asked for) that you have not explained. the only answer i got was "just because" thats just... childish.

by the way, i talked to lyanti a while ago. she forgave me for her own reasons. im not her enemy anymore. in fact, she offered to send me some of her art. im not her friend yet, but that has to be a sign of willingness.

so i say lets fogettahboutit and be friends. is thier really a point in insulting each other? 8o)

and i dont see how being 17 makes you *young*. 8)
**************
no, i dont go to school dances, or football games. why? cause im somewhere ELSE with friends that ALSO dont go to dances and football games. so it looks like im not much of a loser. i only said i was because i would have been called one, so if you cancel it out early , it wont come into play, if you know what i mean.

in fact, im stepping out right now. so, everyone have fun studying, playing games, going to dances, football games, or whatever. just have phun :)
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Sunday, December 9, 2001 04:00:15 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Ugh ... such a headache! If I have to calculate another flux integral, I think I'll scream! ;)

And I'm going to make my headache worse and go ahead and toss in my 2 cents on this.

Basically, I think what Josh was trying to say here (or at least the way I looked at it) was not that Nukes shouldn't be allowed to hang out with older people, or should be required to go to inane high school social events or anything like that ... the way I saw it, if you'd like to have older friends and hang out with them, then there's a level of maturity that you've got to have in order to *make* those friends. And that's *not* shown in egging people on, pushing issues, setting out to push people's buttons, etc. If the maturity level is there, then there's no problem having friends much older than you are.

Just about all of my friends are older than I am, and some *much* older (i.e., they went to high school with my parents) ... I was the freshman in high school whose friends were mostly seniors. I think a few people in here were like that also.

And metaldemon, I must say that I agree with you, even though I don't think it's exactly what Josh meant in this situation. Just because you're in high school, you shouldn't be required to attend football games and dances and fit in just like everybody else. Sure, you catch some insults and strange looks for it, and it's tougher to be "popular" that way ... but it's just not for some people to dress, talk, and act just like everyone else. I didn't want to be part of the masses in high school ... it was just too ... fake. I liked having my own personality and likes, even if was a little tougher that way.

So sure, older friends are cool. And "not having a life" in high school is completely in the eye of the beholder. Heck, I don't even think I have a life now! ;) But that's irrelevant ... basically, I think what I'm trying to say is that you can *definitely* have older friends with no problem at all, long as you have the maturity for that. You can act your age, or you can act like you're in elementary school. Either way, it's up to you.

Please just be good to each other, and party on. ;)

Off to study some Physics ... maybe. ;)
Ravyn
Sunday, December 9, 2001 03:37:11 PM
IP: 150.135.180.226

[delurks, sighing]
ok, is this delving into flame war territory? because as much as I would love to add my $.02, I'm taking a "first do no harm" stance... ie, I don't wanna make it worse.
God bless!
[relurks]
Daphne
Sunday, December 9, 2001 02:31:45 PM
IP: 129.68.138.125

*points down* right on.
NukesGoBoom
Sunday, December 9, 2001 01:33:15 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Josh> <<A kid your age should be participating in high school with high school people,>> Exactly, he should be going to Pep rallies, and going to football games and school dances. Cuz only normal people do those things, all the others, who stayed home and read or went to see Slayer live are just losers who have no life. He should try to fit in with the masses and be fake.
<<You should be hanging out with other kids your age, not pestering the grown-ups>> What makes you think he doesn't? I still had friends my age (not many) and was still able to put in about a good size book every two or three weeks for fun while I did stuff with them. Besides, at his age, I was enjoying the company of adults and adult-minded teenagers since they had more intellectually geared discussions. Sorry, I just got tired of hearing about Korn's latest piece of sh!t or the latest computer. I would have much rather talked about Dali and Joyce than Tony Hawk.
<<(a.k.a. smart and cool people?).>> I like how you conviently lump yourself and your firends into that category.
<<How am I a loser because I pick on you?>> I guess an adult would know the answer to that question.
Nukes> It's quite clear that in order to be a winner, since that's what truly matters in life, you must go to computer conventions, insult other people for no good reason, stand in front of a mirror naked and repeatedly say, "You, you macho stud of a winner, are going to pick up chicks!" and listen to bands that everyone else listens to. Don't be a loser and obssess about a TV show that was cancelled almost ten years ago; don't be loser and try to make friends who aren't your age (2-20 years older than you). The key thing (and this is the point to life) is to try and not be a loser. BE A WINNER! CUZ YOU'RE GONNA WIN! Be the guy who makes the winning touchdown; that way everyone loves you. Whatever you do, don't be yourself. Well, you can, just as long as it meets everone elses winner meter.
metaldemon - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
denton, tx
Sunday, December 9, 2001 10:11:00 AM
IP: 24.219.165.75

On the topic of notebook computers, IMHO the best way to shop for them these days is online. In particular there is a world of difference between notebooks with the geforce go video card and the other video cards on the market. If you do any games or work with high end graphics, it makes all the difference. Dell has good offerings in the notebook venue.
silvadel
Sunday, December 9, 2001 09:59:38 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

josh- who says i dont hang out with my friends? i called myself a loser so you wouldnt. if i hadnt, you KNOW you would have. dont forget, im _not_ a kid, im 17, so i DRIVE. Where do you get the idea that since i post once or twice a day in here, that i have absoulutly no life? in fact, i wasnt home at all yesterday, i went to the mall with some girls. yes, real, live, attractive, G I R L S (they kind that ya wounldnt think would have HIV ;)).

no one is a loser just because they come here and post. i mean, YOU post here, and we _all_ know that there is no way in hell that JOSH can be a loser, right? exactly.

i see your long ass posts, you probobly spend more time making your posts than anyone in here besides emambu. you should notice that mine are always small, only 2 sentences to like 3 people. you write a motherf!ucking NOVEL every time you stop by.

well, enjoy being cold to me, i know i wont. i have nothing against you, i still want to be your friend, but youve made it clear since that im _only_ a senior in highschool and _not_ in college or 21 years old, that i am in no way even entitled to have a _chance_ of being your friend. well, thats your choice.

lain- did you get my email? ya didnt respond in your usual *quickness* 8)
NukesGoBoom - [NukesGoBoom@yahoo.com]
Sunday, December 9, 2001 09:35:56 AM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Ugh. I studied ALL DAY today. 2 hours on math (linear algebra and diffEQ) and 2 hours on dynamics.

Sounds painful, no?

I decided to skip studying for fluids after coming the following realization: the final is open book, open note, and worth only 25% of my grade. The other 75% of my grade is made of an 95% average. I could skip this final and still pass the class. Instead, I'll show up and get a B ;-)

replies

Lurking Fish: <<it's like grade two in here>>: You flatter us.

Christine: <<av mists>>: Looks great! <<hugs and smoochies>>: Does LM know about this?! ;-) <<important announcement>>: GAH! You're not gonna do Avmists anymore!? NO! Say it ain't so. I love how you took it right to SJ and Pistoff, though.

Nukes: <<im really starting to doubt that you are still giving me a hard time,as you have claimed before, opposed to just not understanding my questions.>>: Doubt all you want, I am in fact giving you an extra hard time. I do fully understand your posts. Earlier, I interpreted something as an incredibly stupid question when in reality it was only a slightly stupid one (the earlier "misunderstanding"). But now, I realize that you're just a kid. And sadly, this room is populated by adults. Little kids have always bugged me, especially when they wanted to play with the big kids. <<do YOU think when you type>>: Most of the time. <<why do you respond to things i ask other people?>>: This is the first time you noticed this? People have been posting responses to things posted to other people since long before I got here. Gside and FS do it all the time. <>: Actually, I broke that "secret" to the CR a few weeks ago, when Gunjack posted from his very long haitus. <>: You're right, my apologies. I didn't mean "get help". I meant "get a life". Yes, there *is* a difference: you're not a clinically a freak, but socially you've obviously got issues. A kid your age should be participating in high school with high school people, not hanging out in a comment room populated by audlts. Its one thing if most of your friends are older than you, but quite another to be spending large amounts of time online with a group of adults. Yes, I do it, but in high school I still had a life. My "excuse" now is simply an overloading of work that prevents me from going out and participating in the kind of activities I did when I was your age. Even as I type this, I am preparing for finals, finishing my last assignment, etc. But you're still in high school. You should be hanging out with other kids your age, not pestering the grown-ups (some of whom have made it more than clear that you are doing so ::coughlynaticough:: <>: Not just you. Almost everyone. You just particularly annoy me. <>: Um, I'm sorry, but that gives me a VERY good reason to be an a$$hole to you. Do you think I'm gonna be an a$$hole to people I like (a.k.a. smart and cool people?). <<do you get off on insulting me?>>: Somewhat. <<if thats true, then you are more of a loser than i will ever be>>: I fail to see how being in touch with what "gets me off" and being honest about it makes me a loser. I enjoy it. Its not illegal. So I do it. And I still have plenty of friends to boot (even if you are not one of them). How am I a loser because I pick on you?

Sevarius Jr: <<I've never heard of them>>: Think crappy punk/pop, to the tenth power. I am SO glad I missed that. <<What is the fascination with them?>>: Now that I've seen them perform, I don't have a clue. <<thank you, radio, for overkilling their one good hit>>: Radio does that with EVERY good hit. <<They're not overrated like some other quasi-punk bands *coughcoughblink182greendaycoughcough*>>: I've seen blink 182 about 10 times now (only ONCE did I see them on purpose, the other times they were playing alongside some other groups), and since Enema they just suck. As for Green Day, they've been headed downhill since "Dookie". They're just OLD. That guy is 30 already, WTF does he know about being a teenager who doesn't get laid? <>: Me neither. I dismiss them because they suck. <>: If it sucks I'm gonna be pissed off. <<they're not the best band alive, and "Runaway" is by far NOT the best song ever. I wouldn't even call it the best song on that album>>: I think Points of Authority is a better song musically, but Runaway speaks to me more personally. Other than that, I agree. <<They screamed about the evils of capitalism, while raking in the millions>>: If they were really so righteous, they'd give it to charity.

Revel: <<rant of the week goes to Josh, because Autumn was looking over my shoulder while I was reading and she loves Linkin Park>>: Is she your new chick? Well, at least she's got taste (in music). Tell her she didn't miss much. <<accessing porn on their laptops huh? I have one word for this: DUH>>: Seriously...what ELSE would one use a computer for? <<he's an ass to everyone if you have not noticed>>: Not EVERYONE...just most people. <<He wanted two palletes>>: LOL! The amazing new Ford Ranger: now with new "no traction on the front wheels because they aren't touching the ground" drive!

Mooncat: <<Mmm... hot chocolate>>: Hell yeah!

Ravyn: <<congrats on the impending knot of doom, a.k.a. Marriage>>: Here here! <<you should convert to country music now!>>: And maybe I'll throw my G4 out a window. And maybe while I'm at it I'll join the army. And get a lot of chicks. <<Why does everyone keep saying that?>>: The boyfriend. <<my brain hurts from studying the big theorems of Vector Calculus>>: Ah, VecCalc...one long applicaton of Green's Theorem.

Gside: <<He did>>: Naturally. He'd be like Xanatos, only good. <<so I leave my computer on constantly, including all IM clients>>: Back when I had a computer that was silent, I did the same. <<He hasn't even broken the room in over a year or two>>: What a worthless poster! ;-) <<How about no whips and with fire?>>: Uh oh, the gerbils are running scared... <<Beaver, did you summon a tentacle demon again?>>: ::laugh track as tentacle demon has its way with lead female:: <<They're giving out a tiny installer that queries their servers for the large files>>: Why on earth do they do that? <<Not for my workload>>: Same here. And lots of sex would only make me care less. <<Nothing, unless you're wearing boxers>>: Then it would mean nothing. <<Con Air. Steve Buscemi's character. Fun movie>>: I thought so. <<Because he thought of something wise to say, and didn't mind the forseen consequences of it>>: Pretty much, yeah.

DPH: <>: Yeah, me too. Nevermind the fact that it won't stop anything. <<They don't because it only counts if windows can be sucessfully installed on the computer>>: No. If you have to sit through ANYTHING before it tells you that the installation failed, it counts. MacOS would tell you after clicking "install", immediately, that "MacOS cannot be installed on this computer"

When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*". - Linus Torvalds
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, December 9, 2001 04:20:39 AM
IP: 64.170.153.208

Blessed Be! *^_^*

Thanks Christine for the link. I confess, I'd only read the first of the Guardian fics, so had not known to what story your excerpt went.

Loved the tie in to your What Might Have Been universe. Wow, who'd have thunk it would have ended up thusly?

I feel bad about Morganna though. Otherwise, cool beans! That was the second story of yours that I've read this night.

Was at my local anime meeting today, and a friend had just picked up his comics and stuff shipment, including a book whose title was strangely familiar... And included a story called "Dawn of the Living Impaired" --- So I promptly read it, loved it, and told my friend who'd mistakenly ordered/bought the book thinking it was a game supplement, that he needs to read it.

Ah, Zombie stories. *^_^* I love the ones that are tongue in cheek. Kudos!

Well, me for sleep. Still suffering the lingering annoyances of cough and congestion. drat it all. I thought it was going away on it's own. Guess this week I really will have to go and get antibiotics. bother...

Thinking of taking a day and just staying in bed with a big print out of Garg fic to keep me occupied. Or go shopping for a notebook computer so I can write in bed. Some sweet Christmas deals available. Sigh. I have become so spoiled, I don't want to write on paper anymore.

Well, I'll sleep on the idea then see.

adios
Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Sunday, December 9, 2001 03:13:07 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Even worse -- 15th this time ...

Decided I merited this one for that performance instead of my normal lucy pic.
silvadel
Sunday, December 9, 2001 12:45:17 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Me again ... another quick link. I'm delighted (though in truth a bit bewildered) to report that Silversilk is the #4 top seller in the general interest category for The Open Book Ltd., an alternate lifestyle bookstore/coffeehouse in Sacramento. Evidently due to Mischa Narrin, I'm guessing ; )

Christine - [<--- progress!]
Sunday, December 9, 2001 12:17:39 AM
IP: 64.24.34.23

Av Mists > thanks for the feedback, folks. Sorry it was so late. But it did give me the chance to include a couple things that had come in past the deadline. As for other developments, we'll have to wait and see but I will be sure to keep everyone posted.

Mooncat > whoops, I guess I forgot to link the excerpt to the main story. Here ya go: http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/entombed.html (or clickie).

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, December 9, 2001 12:14:50 AM
IP: 64.24.34.23

To, continue, and with the correct color this time.

Aaron> <<Traveler too>>: Not as much lately. He hasn't even broken the room in over a year or two.
<<Sorry, but sadonecrobestiality is banned under the revised CR guidelines>>: How about no whips and with fire?
<<Or Gendo, for that matter>>: Well, Gendo essentially comes with a roomfull of Reis, so that kind of balances out.
<<A porno-sitcom? Interesting idea>>: Beaver, did you summon a tentacle demon again?
<<But what about ale?>>: PVP?

DPH> <<Most of it is because the software is required to do homework>>: That's usually included with the book. I have two CDs with PSPICE.
<>: That might not work quite as well. They're giving out a tiny installer that queries their servers for the large files.

Gunjack> <<A guy quits the CR in disgust, vacilates between coming back and staying gone... and he still posts about as often as he ever did>>: Not really, you had periods of daily activity. Now excuse me while I work my telepathy to erode your resistance to posting more often.

Fire Storm> <<Transparent AND colored!>>: Colorless green ideas sleep furiously?
<<Isn't that a good solution to just about everyone's problems?>>: Not for my workload. Maybe caring about the workload, but not the workload itself.

Imzadi> <<What's wrong with having your breifs removed?>>: Nothing, unless you're wearing boxers.
<<How about a bunch of idiots dancing on an airplane to a song made famous when its writers died in a plane crash?>>: Con Air. Steve Buscemi's character. Fun movie.

Christine> Best of luck with whatever happens to AvMists.

Siryn> <>: Somewhat Shakespearian of you.

Nukes> <<why do you respond to things i ask other people?>>: Why does anyone, myself included? Because he thought of something wise to say, and didn't mind the forseen consequences of it.

Mooncat> <<if there is a concern for material for Avalon Mists being too mature/adult for general family ratings, what about having it in two parts?>>: Possible. Seems to have worked for Elf Life.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, December 8, 2001 11:24:18 PM
IP: 165.230.240.118

I meant to type up JL spoilers yesterday, so here it comes today:

**JL SPOILERS**
Note 1: I started to type FL instead of JL.

Hmm. Last week, we had Wonder Woman and Batman absent. This week, we have Hawk Girl and Flash absent.

That makes me wonder when we'll have Superman and the Green Lantern absent. Seriously, Green Lantern is the most powerfull on the team and Superman follows right behind him. If both of them are gone, things might get interesting. So far, the absences have made sense. If this pattern of absences continues, I'll have to evaluate each story in terms of why which character was not needed.

Of course, Batman would have made a better lawyer than Flash and would have gotten himself off the hook (by asking questions about the moon and reasoning it completely out) without having to wait on Superman.

I hope all this episodes aren't multi-parters. If they are all multiple parts, apparantly there was an argument about how long each episode would air: 30 minutes or 1 hour. Also, by the end of next week, roughly half the season will have been shown unless they are sticking to 26 episodes per season or more.

Having Hawk Girl around in Atlantis probably isn't a good idea if she starts to use her weapons. Flash's presence would have ended the chase scene a little quicker. Of course, only Batman would solved the riddle about how to help Aquaman out. Why did I get the filling Green Lantern is going to play a major role if something should happen to Atlantis?
**END JL SPOILERS**

Oh yea, here's something else I wanted to add yesterday to my post. Good news for all people who enjoy internet spiders harvesting email addresses from web page. Apparantly, yahoo groups has started listing full email addresses when you post. No, I didn't receive an announcement about it, but I only see one reason why it is necessary: to send attachements to someone from the yahoo groups website because you can't send attachements from a yahoo groups page.

Oh yea, I was reading some stuff over at the gargoyles comment room. I am definitely opposed to having to register in order to post in a comment room until things get really bad about people showing up from nowhere and posting really bad stuff.

I just noticed a few days ago the GNC has copied the announcement about the delay in release of TD.

On to replies:

Todd: <ABC is also considering dropping its Saturday morning line-up for news programs> Are they still airing clones of doug/recess? If so, it's no suprise they have a problem with ratings.

SJ - <Word out now is that Fox may no longer air kids animation on their Saturday morning lineup. The excuse they're using is that Pokemon is killing them. That sounds about as plausible as when they used the old "Power Rangers is too powerful of a show!" excuse to kill Gargoyles and a bunch of other good programs. Let's be honest- Fox killed its own kids animation lineup by putting on some of the most abominable animated programs ever created on its lineup. "Alienators"? Yes, let's make a bad cartoon show about a movie that NO ONE saw.> Damn. I was hoping that they air Spiderman Unlimited in a radical strategy to get some ratings. BTW, How much longer until Pokemon dies?

Imzadi - >: Those count dude.> They don't because it only counts if windows can be sucessfully installed on the computer.

DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, December 8, 2001 10:38:26 PM
IP: 204.94.193.35

so close! 11th
Daphne
Saturday, December 8, 2001 10:34:43 PM
IP: 129.68.138.125

Imzadi> <<Batman in power armor would kick ass>>: He did.

Fire Storm> <<Lord Naughtius has returned>>: I saw and I rejoiced.

Robby> <<the series we did after Eva that has NO backgrounds and uses shots straight from the manga>>: Karesi Kanojo no Jijo, aka Kare Kano, aka His and Her Circumstances? Got that one too. Even all the sumarizing episodes.

Ravyn> <<a stupid English proficiency test that this university makes you take after you've completed your English class requirements>>: No extra test here, just the class.

Nukes> <<is your aol im name gside 42?>>: Yup.
<>: That's because I live in a dorm, so I get a T1 connection. I am also lazy, so I leave my computer on constantly, including all IM clients. Not only that, I harly use them, so it's idle most of the time.

10th.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, December 8, 2001 10:28:08 PM
IP: 165.230.240.118

Hazel Eyes: You mean like every day?
Josh
Saturday, December 8, 2001 09:59:55 PM
IP: 64.170.153.208

Seven?!

Niamhgold
Saturday, December 8, 2001 09:59:02 PM
IP: 206.41.204.140

Ever have a day when you totally hate your entire life? If you ever get to that place come visit me. I'll be second star to the right and straight on til morning!
HazelEyesBlue
Saturday, December 8, 2001 09:45:29 PM
IP: 207.42.162.161

TOP TEN!!! (Six?) :)

Back to studying for Ravyn ... ;)
Ravyn and Coyote
Saturday, December 8, 2001 09:44:05 PM
IP: 150.135.180.226

Top 10! :)

---Emambu
Emambu
Saturday, December 8, 2001 09:41:14 PM
IP: 130.49.74.96

Top 10! ^_^
Wilek
Zome Si'Ar, R'lyeh
Saturday, December 8, 2001 09:39:47 PM
IP: 216.65.106.130

THREE!

back to studying!
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, December 8, 2001 09:38:50 PM
IP: 64.170.153.208

TOP 10, #2
DPH
Saturday, December 8, 2001 09:32:04 PM
IP: 204.94.193.80

*peeks*

HAHAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!! *cackles* :D
Oracle
Saturday, December 8, 2001 09:30:39 PM
IP: 24.167.240.110