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FS> <<No wonder the stuff is hazardous to make! For nearly every ingredient listed I can name at LEAST one explosive recipe that calls for it! Hell, a few of them call for a few of them! >>
yeah and one of the more popular recipes calls for red phosphorus - which is obtained by burning bones. *gags*
<<Dang! What's her blood PH? >> dunno... she was only in for questioning so no test were ran on her. She was somewhat tweaking, but there was still nothing to charge her with. Her eyes were darting rapidly from side to side, she was extremely nervous and anxious and kept fidgeting.
*sadly shakes head* what a life...
<<NOTE: NEVER decide to make gifts for people. Trust me. >> *LOL* sounds like around here! I use to make ceramics for family members, but haven't done that in years. Baking? *hearty laugh* you betcha! It's definitely over-rated and not worth the effort. ;) (at least that's the excuse I use for not baking)
<<Yeah, I know. BUT it made bubbles in beer!>> I make bubbles in the bathtub! *grins*

Nukes> <<warpmind- so are you CRAZY or insanE? ;) >> *chuckles* both *nodnodnod*

Shadowrider> I would love it if you would talk more about yourself! =) OOoo and pictures!! yeah, pictures would totally rock! :D

Josh> don't care for curly hair? *coughs and flips you off* ;p

Daniel> heh, I didn't see earlier that your new gal is older than you... absolutely nothing wrong with that! *giggles* :) I think it's wonderful and I wish ya'll much happiness. I agree with Josh... bring her to the Gathering!

Spacebabie> <<Is it me or Should Tom be voted off next? His comments about Ethan being a Jew just pissed me off, but this guy keeps pissing me off. >> *L* I thought it was funny... but yeah, the guy needs to go... but not before Lex. I was soooo disappointed when he won the immunity award again. argh. The jewish comment was in fun and a joke and Ethan took it as that. He just gets on my nerves with going overboard with the goat farmer bit and the way he treats the women - like sex objects. He's as gross as the boil on his neck.
<<of course my brother would refer to Anna as a slobbish freak and you as a geek , that’s the type of person he is.>> He would definitely not like living with me, then. I would show him how this "geek" would whoop his smart-alec ass. What would be left of him - Anna would finish off. ;)

Josh again> <<At least now when we have guests over winter break they won't say "my, what a fascinating odor!" >> *LOL* we started playing, "name that odor" with Michael's room.

Very nice opening segment for SNL tonight. They honored NYC's PD and FD =) very touching.

Nothing is quite so annoying as to have someone go
right on talking when you're interrupting.

Jan
Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:43:08 PM
IP: 12.110.236.71

Lord of the Rings: Geez, is that all anyone can talk about it? I haven't seen it but I can tell you that it isn't that good. No, I haven't read the books, but they talk about magic, and that is EVIL! ;)
Ok... I give. LM and I will most likely go see it 12/26/01

NOTE: NEVER decide to make gifts for people. Trust me.
Oh, and if you decide you need 8 dozen cookies, don't make 8 BATCHES of cookies.
At least now I am at work so I cen rest and take a nap.

Gside: <Ah, my bad. Still>
More than just bad. Naughty. You need a spanking. ;)
Any female volunteers for the job?
<I'm expecting a moderating raping. I should probably bring some lube>
Well, I am glad you said it!

Imzadi: <Atom splitter my eye!>
Yeah, I know. BUT it made bubbles in beer!
Hmm... you know, I am having trouble keeping the bubbles in the water from my carbonator... let me try HIS idea!
(NOTE: If Michigan explodes, it is my fault! ;)
<I've never understood why universities don't utilize the talent in their own student body>
That would make sense. And we can't have that happen!
<You'll have to spend $200 or so to get a wireless base station, and you can still use your PC as a router/firewall>
But then whats the frigging point of having a PROXY server when the router does the same dang job?!?
<Oh sure, silly gets whacked, but insane is fine>
Insane is an excuse. Silly is just silly!

You are one of the few.
<It'd be weird if there were TWO of them>
Yeah... VERY!
<Ah, soon they will be renting ad space on coke cans>
To Pepsi!
<Why would you want to kill your website?>
Websites, like life, is a cycle.
There is a time to post, and a time to delete.
The server has served it's life cycle. It is it's time.
The Harvest shall come soon.
Then the time of the .com shall be here once again.
<Even if we did, we'd wind up screwing it up later. I mean look, this one's perfect, and we've already screwed it up!>
True. And that's my point.
Let's take Mars:
Heat the atmosphere. Ok, we can do that.
BUT we over estimate and make a second Venus.
Let's say we try and cool Venus and change it's atmosphere. I say we make it worse and Venus explodes.
<Kind of like Total Recall, but the women only have two boobs.>
Well, what fun is that?

DPH: <No, I just played on Anthrax fears. Saying any more prevents me from being born>
Ick. Being a fellow time traveler, I know how Paradox's can be.
But I stopped caring LONG ago. Time has always seemed to work out for the most part. Hell, given how much I screwed up in the past, it's a miracle there is still life on this planet!
<what happenned to my 2nd cousins>
And the winners of the 2001 Darwin Awards are...

Christine: <::sniff:: My baby's growing up >
Pretty soon she will be writing stuff for adult.gargoyles-fans.org, just like her mommy!

Mooncat: <But if others write any Macbeth/Demona fics, I will be all joy to read them, even if there's no sex>
Weird thing is that I can't see them getting together.

Jan: <We have ephedrine, hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, acetone, camping fuel, iodine crystals, ammonia, and lye>
JESUS! No wonder the stuff is hazardous to make! For nearly every ingredient listed I can name at LEAST one explosive recipe that calls for it! Hell, a few of them call for a few of them!
<The lye is eating thru to her skin.>
Dang! What's her blood PH?
Fire Storm
Saturday, December 22, 2001 10:42:07 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

oops, screwed that up... *blushes*

www.operationdearabby.net
Jan
Saturday, December 22, 2001 04:32:03 PM
IP: 12.110.237.52

Josh> calling Becca the princess of pornfic.. *cringes*... it's not something that a parent wants to hear. I know your reference (Christine being called the queen & therefore that would make Becca the princess) but yikes...
I'll have to go back thru icq history and find out which cards Michael has asked for... I want it to be a suprise for him ;)

Dreamie> wow! thanks for the link to the lake mystery story!! I am very interested in finding out what, if anything, happens next! Please keep my updated if anything else develops, ok?? =)

Well, another meth lab has bitten the dust here in our fine county :) I've been reading up on the effects of meth... eesh! That's some really NASTY stuff! Besides it eating you from the inside to out (literally) the mental effects are unbelievable. Hallucinations are vivid - in all senses.. taste, sight, hearing, touch, etc and very real to the user. They become extremely paranoid with violent tendencies - because they usually hallucinate that someone is watching them (they actually see people) with the combination of being paranoid, so they go on the attack. The fear and anxiety that a user can have goes beyond sanity. The cooker becomes obessessed with the "power" and "control" that he has over other users. Users can and usually do spend weeks on end awake. They continue using the meth to keep them high and awake. This is a very evil drug.
We have an office full of cooking ingredients and it sure stinks! We have ephedrine, hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, acetone, camping fuel, iodine crystals, ammonia, and lye. Yes folks, _this_ is what meth is made out of and what people are putting into their systems. O.o
Meth is classified as the worst possible drug choice.
A girlfriend of one of the suspects was brought in for questioning. She used to be a pretty girl, but she was covered with these deep red and large sores all over her face, neck and arms - side effects of prolonged meth use. The lye is eating thru to her skin.

In other law enforcement news....
an uncle was arrested for holding his niece at gunpoint while threatening to rape her... he admitted to doing this. sicko
a domestic dispute turned into a hostage situation with our captain... the wife & husband were fighting (he was drunk), she left to call the sheriff's dept & when the capt. arrived and entered the residence with the wife, the husband had a rifle aimed at them. After back up arrived and the task force circled the house, they talked the man down & he was promptly arrested and had his butt thrown in jail. He's sitting there now with a $30,000 bond & possibility of life in prison for drawing a gun on a police officer.
ex-parte screw up... the wife filed one against the husband which forbidded him from entering the residence... the husband then filed one against her - with the same restriction... which meant neither one could go to the house. So, I spent Friday trying to get hold of the judge so that the lady could stay in the house with the 13 year old son. The husband had closed the checking account so the lady had $3 in her pocket and no where else to stay.
Pissed me off. Besides, the lady is from Texas ;) so I did whatever I could to help her out. hehe
She can stay in the house until the court date of the ex-parte. *flexes muscles* heh, glad the judge likes me! ;)

*sais* can't go see LotR tonight afterall... weather is too nasty. I don't want to be out in it and the winds are extremely gusty. The theater is in a neighboring town (20 miles away)

Daniel> congrats!!! =) What a wonderful story of how the two of you have gotten together after all of this time! Keep us updated, ok? It's great seeing you post here again :)

I know that there's more to post and reply to, but I'm strapped for time right now. We've moved the Christmas festivities to my house and since I have to work Monday, I need to get most of the work done today.

Before I leave, I want to post this link....
Since the mail has been drastically reduced to the military because of the anthrax possibility, Dear Abby has set up an electronic Holiday Wishes for the military. Please take a moment to go to this website and send a message to someone who is stationed overseas. Thanks!!

Happy Holidays and many blessings!

Jan
Saturday, December 22, 2001 04:29:46 PM
IP: 12.110.237.52

Josh > give her a few years at least; she's not _that_ precocious.

::reads Mooncat & M. Destine's comments and starts the Countdown Clock ... tick-tick-tick ...:: <g>
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, December 22, 2001 01:45:09 PM
IP: 64.24.214.64

awesome. but i think josh is right, i doubt that it will actually come through, unfortunatly. i would kill to see another gargoyles movie.

warpmind- so are you CRAZY or insanE? ;)
NukesGoBoom
Saturday, December 22, 2001 01:15:27 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

UGH! ::shoves the cat off her keyboard:: sorry about that... anyway...

Nukes - The Gargoyles live action movie is still in production hell. Disney hasn't scrapped it yet and they have gone through several writers (from Greg Weisman to Dean Devlin of ID4 fame). Dispite how long it is has been sitting out there untouched, they are still fishing up new writers and trying new storylines. It's not dead yet, but the longer it takes to get it going the less likely it will happen.

If I hear anything new about it, I will be sure to post it.
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Saturday, December 22, 2001 01:00:19 PM
IP: 63.28.181.90

:: tries a different pic ::

Josh: >> No, I know that. That was a sarcastic remark, intended to mean "curses, I love your stories, couldn't you write more!?" ;-) I'll read ripples soon. <<

Well, I write them as quickly as I can while still maintaining my (admittedly high) personal standards for quality. That means a lot of editting and proofreading. I'll admit... as insanely easy as it is to do all the researching, outlining, writing, and checking... well, I just can't churn 'em out one after another every couple days like SJ does. ;)

"Ripples" took about three months from initial conception to final posted draft, not counting the month and a half long creative void I was in after 9/11. How long it takes to craft the next one, I can't predict. It depends how much spare time I manage to find and how well the ideas come together. Half of the work is just in the pre-writing planning, after all.

Mooncat: I just want to say, you rule. I'm honored to be in your harem. And I can't wait for your next Robyn and Demona story. :)
Madame Destine - [m_destine@hotmail.com]
Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:58:38 PM
IP: 66.72.204.216

...
Jennifer"
Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:54:02 PM
IP: 63.28.181.90

Gside - wrong answer. You don't even have the right approach.

Imzadi - <A word of warning though: It sucked.> I'll be the judge of that. I'll have to make a note to read '1984' sometime, once I watched that '2001: A Space Oddessy'.

Warpmind - <What is it with you and your conventional weapons?> I'm only using them against a selected group of individuals: newbies who ask when TimeDancer will be published.

I have thought up a new (and interesting) way to punish DC. I'm not revealing it until I use it. Yes, once again, I plan on giving DC a card worth one avoidance of death/torture.

**WORDS OF WISDOM**
Ok, I have a few minutes about what happenned to my 2nd cousins. They were duck hunting in a boat without life jackets. Neither of them knows how to swim. I am pretty sure that both of them were standing up to shoot the ducks when the boat overturned. They did tell one of my 1st cousins they'd be home by a certain time, but no person bothered to check on them. About 7 hours after the boat flipped over, one of my uncles heard them screaming, checked on them, and called 911 to take care of that problem.

1)If I'm in a boat, everybody has to wearing a life jacket to prevent drowning.

2)If I'm in a boat, somebody will be around to check on me in case things should happen.

3)One of these days, I do want to go canoing again. I will buy a canoe and trailer for it if I can use it more than 3-4 times per year. I love nature.
**END WORDS OF WISDOM**

Daniel Johnson - I believe you've recovered from your depression.

Is it me or has a miracle happenned this week in the CR? One whole week without anyone asking the taboo question (unless I overlooked something).
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:40:53 PM
IP: 204.94.193.62

*Warpmind wanders in, carrying a small bust of the goddess Belldandy, and has a sheepish grin plastered on his face.*
Well, time for a Wilekian catch-up, I guess...

Nukes: Nope, I'm not a gun fanatic. I'm just plain nuts, with a few specifics. };)

Gside: Well, lessee... Blomkvist... Few who primarily speak English get that one right... de InzanE... Few in the WORLD get that one right... Marius... I've heard that pronounced as an invitation to a polygamous marriage... Warpmind... Haven't really heard any unintentional mispronounciations of that one... Yeah, I figure my real name for the handle I use is a fair trade-off. };)

Wilek: Well, yeah, there are records of the whole brouhaha... I sealed them off in sub-vault 57, a small password-locked black box. (If you dare check, the passkey is "Unspeakable".) As for the common currency of the New World under the Nereus Project... How about just calling'em "Credits"? The name seems to have a broad base of support, anyway...

Josh: When I said non-metric Americans, I obviously didn't mean you. So why did you become upset? When I say non-metric Americans, I *mean* non-metric Americans!

Greg: Knowing what I know of Blockbuster, they'd go through with the scented shelves-thing evne if they DID add a porn section. Though, I'm afraid to ponder what THAT would smell like... Õõ

Spike: *Whee* Congrats on making the run. :)

Josh again: HIV negative, huh? It's one of those rare, wonderful times, when it's positive to be negative, and vice versa. ;)

Robby: Xenogears is better than Shakespeare? *Punts Robby into the nearest well.* That was SO in poor taste, bro. };)

DPH: What is it with you and your conventional weapons? I don't think I have *any* conventional weapons in my regular armory. *Checks* Nope, I don't... Though, there's the telescopic lance, the spring-loaded battleaxe, the manual breechloaded gatling... Hmmm... Methinks I should run a complete inventory someday...

*Dodges snowballs* Well, now my mother, for some ridicolous reason, wants the machine, so I'll assume that after Monday the 17th, there was nothing significant for me to comment on...

So, later, everyone... and I hope I'll get to post next time at a shorter interval than this time. *Squeezes off a few 20mm HEP rounds at the mistletoe, just as a precaution before skidding off.* Oh, and Wilek? Thanks for your concern. ;)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, December 22, 2001 07:34:35 AM
IP: 193.217.202.122

Josh;> <<Monica Bellucci>> You don't know her? Weird...I know she's quite well-known even in USA. You probably have seen her in "Dracula" with a minor role, and in "Under Suspicion" with a more important part. You'll see her again in "Matrix Reloaded". Anyway, if you are curious, here's a good link: "http://www.bella-monica.com". It is in Italian, but it is easy. You'll eventually find a filmography.
<<Already done that>> Yeah, easy. ;)
<< See? I'm not crazy!>> Do you really think that doing something like I do means that you are NOT crazy? Rather the opposite, I'd say...
<<I'm not big on curly hair. >> Boy, you are not in position to be demanding! By the way, this reminds me of something a friend of mine told me some days ago: "When I was 16, I was looking for the most beautiful girl in the world. If a girl was not perfect, I didn't eventually care for her. When I was 18, I looked for good-looking girls. When I was 21, I could be happy with a moderately pretty girl. Now that I'm 24, I'm happy just if she breaths!"
Sad, isn't it? ;)

Later
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Saturday, December 22, 2001 06:33:48 AM
IP: 213.213.20.125

Josh -- <<Do you watch/read porn 24/7?! Not every story is about sex (every song is though!). And I thought I was sexually deprived...sheesh!>>

Hmm?? 24/7?? Well, there's the time spent actually *having* sex, *writing* about sex, *eating* so I have enough energy for sex, *sleeping* (when I can dream about sex, taking care of my house hold *chores* so my place is clean and spiff after the sex and is ready for the next orgy I throw, then there's the sundry *work/errands* I have to do so life's little difficulties won't interfer with sex, and the time spent on the computer just so I can *talk* to the ones who are deprived of sex (like you) so you won't feel too badly about not getting any.

Then, in my left over minutes I guess I do get some time to watch/read about sex. Like that Lord of the Rings movie last night. I couldn't believe how much sex was in it. woo hoo!!! Yup, nothing but sex 24/7...

*mooncat collapses in a fit of chortles and hiccuping giggles* >^,,^< ... sheesh is right.

(So as not to mislead anyone, note, there wasn't actually any sex in Lord of the Rings, though there was fantastic eye candy start to finish.)

Josh, if you get around to reading Ripples, you might (then again you might not) know what I was referring to when I made the comment about not enough sex. But I think any Macbeth/Demona fans will get it for sure.

All I can do for now is chant "On the desk! On the desk!" *^_~* and re-read certain portions of Ripples over and over hoping Macbeth and Demona take the hint...

As it is, I'm too busy with a Robyn Canmore/Demona fic to do my own Macbeth/Demona fic for a little while. sigh. Otherwise I'd be burning up the computer keyboard right now with a Macbeth/Demona story (I do have one planned).

But all things in their proper order. First Robyn/Demona story, then Jezebel part one, then my Fox/Lexington story (Payback), then maybe another episode of Immortal Blood, then maybe the Macbeth/Demona... or a half dozen other fics whose notes I'm still trying to recreate... sigh...

But if others write any Macbeth/Demona fics, I will be all joy to read them, even if there's no sex. *^_~*

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Saturday, December 22, 2001 05:01:31 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Dentist appt. today. The good news is that I still have all my teeth. And they all still work as normal 8-)

Started Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone today. Good book, I'm already nearly finished. The movie was surprisingly true to the book.

I also saw Vanilla Sky. Weird, trippy movie. Kind of like Total Recall, but the women only have two boobs.

replies

Madame Destine: <<ecause "The Lesson" was just a teaser, and like movie trailers, fanfic teasers are generally are short and sweet. That's why I posted that one under the same series as my other short, short stories>>: No, I know that. That was a sarcastic remark, intended to mean "curses, I love your stories, couldn't you write more!?" ;-) I'll read ripples soon.

Mooncat: <<Not as much sex as I'd like>>: Do you watch/read porn 24/7?! Not every story is about sex (every song is though!). And I thought I was sexually deprived...sheesh! <<Ads? You had Ads? You don't mean movie previews?>>: No I mean real TV spots. Like a Windows XP ad.

Spacebabie: <<Am I the ONLY person who has yet to see this movie yet>>: Yeah pretty much. <<my dad is lucky he has a cathader so he doesn't have to worry about going to the bathroom>>: Or you could just go to the bathroom before the movie like I did. However, if you're female that doesn't work, as females stereotypically have bladders the size of thumbtacks. <>: You thought correctly. <<GOTCHA>>: Whew. For a minute there you'd lost your eligibility.

Christine: <<paper says its too scary>>: I'm sure if you see it first and judge for yourself, you won't mind taking becca again ;-) <<he put them under his pillow>>: Did he get any money? <<getting cheated>>: Yeah, that would bite the big one. My uncle has his birthday in the middle of december so he always got shafted too. <<fanfic of her very own>>: "Becca Morgan, Princess of Fanfic Porn!" LOL.

DPH: <<watching the movie is criteria for future membership in the CR.>>: Not yet. Soon. << contigency plans are always on the mind>>: That could be it. <>: When that happens...I hang up. <<Was it re-released or am I going to have a nightmarish time trying to find that movie>>: Just rent it at Blockbuster. A word of warning though: It sucked.

Borath: There is no Gargoyles movie. Its not planned, it isn't being written/flimed/whatever.

Nukes: Don't go listening to every rumor/random story you hear. If there WAS going to be a garg movie, you'd have seen talk of it either here or in S8.

Shadowrider: <<Just the thought of some days of *rest*...yyyeeeesssssss>>: I hear ya! <<projecting a new fighter jet>>: Already done that. <<Credit card or cash>>: Cash. Wouldn't want it traced back to me. <<imagine somebody like Monica Bellucci (you know her, right?), just a little shorter and with curly hair>>: Who? In any case, I'm not big on curly hair. <<my preferred unit are probably Wraiths, for the reasons that others have already expressed>>: See? I'm not crazy! ;-) <<it is a sector I have never been able to expand in>>: Too much info.

Oracle: <<tailored to a modern audience that the producers must evidently believe is equally louder and dumber>>: Well news flash: modern-day audiences are stupider than bricks.

Daniel Johnson: <<The Wizards are NOT human.>>: Really?! Cool! Will they reveal that in the next movies? <<The story is being told from the perspective of the Hobbits and those in their immediate vicinity>>: Ah, I see. I shall have to read it. <<In fact, she has my old 6100>>: That's not a mac! Its barely a powerPC! ::looks at 6100/66 on his desk:: Hey, how much ram does she need? I've got a BUNCH in this 6100 (74 megs, I think) and I'd be happy to get rid of it. <>: Bring her to G2k2! Once you have a chick, you won't be afraid of going out of your room to meet people ;-) <<my mother once told me that she wished we could be a couple>>: Yeah, but my ex-g/f's mom says the same thing. And she doesn't have a prayer. <>: A new girlfriend can have that effect ;-)

Gside: <<finished off my exams>>: Congrats! Feels good, doesn't it? <<And I wanted to go to a Gathering eventually, too>>: And I know I'm intimidating enough to stop you ;-) <<If they were male>>: Yes, that would be quite disturbing. <>: How did it get there? <<What about Smash?>>: Haven't played it. <<Mine's started to wonder if I'm still alive>>: Awww, lonely razor? <<Lets you save the ROM out of a console cartridge>>: Why not just download the rom to your PC/mac?

Okay, I'd like to finish Harry Potter before I go to sleep, so I will leave you here.

Norway pretty much sucks.
-Warpmind de Inzane, TGS Comment Room

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Encino, CA, US of A
Saturday, December 22, 2001 02:53:37 AM
IP: 206.170.218.240

::sniff:: My baby's growing up ... in the car today, Becca started telling me about her ideas for a Harry Potter fanfic of her very own ... she had it all detailed, and as twisted as one could expect: her new character, Scythe, is the half-basilisk son of Tom Riddle, born in the Chamber of Secrets but now grown up enough to be in Gryffindor and friends with Harry (which of course drives his father crazy). Kid came up with this all on her own ::sniff:: I'm so proud!

Jen > thanks for the input about the kids; I'm sure Becca will be fine. We'll probably go this weekend with Kathy.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, December 22, 2001 01:49:00 AM
IP: 64.24.187.49

Saw Fellowship myself today. Quite good, but I noticed a couple more things.
**SPOILERS, maybe**
The run in at the barrow was missing, which is where the hobbits got their daggers (made originally at Westernesse), there was no mention of the reforging of Narsil into Andúril, and wasn't the water horses a spell of Gandalf's? I thought the origins of the daggers were inportant for the slaying of the head Nazgul. I'm also hoping for a flashback to Lothlorien after the saving of the Shire for the origins of Sam's gift. Whatever.
**end of potential SPOILERS**
Then after the movie my father and I tried to recall the structure of book two (how often did it switch between parties, when did Rohan come...).

Also finished off my exams, and yes this one did give me my worst raping.

Imzadi> <<Have fun with operating systems...my roomie is avoiding that one like the plague>>: Well, it's a comp sci class, and those have been much easier than the engineering classes. But I am taking it for the engineering department.
<<Till I meet you IRL and punch you out>>: And I wanted to go to a Gathering eventually, too.
<<Big bouncies. And g-strings. What could be bad?>>: If they were male.
<<No, he doesn't know>>: I wouldn't be surporsed if he looked it up for the heck of it after all that trouble.
<>: I just realized the apocalypse is in my pants.
<<Mario Kart 64. The sweetest game ever>>: What about Smash?
<< don't get along with any razor. Especially the one I use to shave my face>>: Mine's started to wonder if I'm still alive.
<<What's a dex drive?>>: Lets you save the ROM out of a console cartridge, or just the saves. Especially since the movement to CD based consoles.

Mooncat> <<Must be a west coast thing>>: Nope. They're on the east, too.

DPH> <<ouble 15 dominoes. 10 cybercookies to the 1st person to give the correct number of dominoes in that set>>: 15^2
<<Was it re-released or am I going to have a nightmarish time trying to find that movie>>: It's a big enough name that you'll be able to find it.

Borath> <<Does anyone know about the future plans of the Gargoyles movie?>>: Most likely long, long dead. Don't hold your breath.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:40:46 AM
IP: 24.4.252.72

Todd:
*** LOTR SPOILERS ***

Merry and Pippin--Their introduction into the Fellowship bothered me a bit too, but I don't think it could have been handled the "right" way without making the movie even longer. I think it was a good balance between accuracy and the requirements of the movie medium. The first several chapters of FotR can be a bit tedious for some people and are probably why so many only get part way through.

As far as Gandalf's "silly" behavior, it does make him seem more "human" to the viewers. The difference between Gandalf the GREY and Gandalf the WHITE will be that much more dramatic in the other movies.

You're right about the swarming orcs: very creepy. I like how Elrond was handled also, but his somewhat prejudiced view of humans was a bit ironic considering his ancestry. In fact, Aragorn (and Isildur for that matter) ARE descended from his brother Elros.

*** END SPOILERS ***
----
Gside:
Greetings.
<<But what would you do if a young unshorn hippie suddenly appeared on your front porch?>> You're assuming that this has not already happened. Besides, this is Ocean Grove. Much stranger things happen here all the time.
<<My father has taught you well.>> Well, I still remember how to make gun powder.
<<Congratulations on finding love.>> Thank'ee. We'll see what happens.
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Entity:
*** LOTR SPOILERS ***

<<Lack of the mysterious>> Can't argue with that. But then since I already have LotR memorized, there COULDN'T be any mystery for me. It didn't detract from my enjoyment.
<<Action, rather than Drama>> No argument here either. But again, given the medium, it worked for me.
<> Got to disagree here. The Ringwraiths not scary? When that Rider stopped where the Hobbits were hiding under the tree and started sniffing... and even the INSECTS ran from it in terror... ::shudder:: I don't know; even I was a bit unnerved. Sammi thought they were very frightening and she hasn't read the books. As for the screeching, it was described in the books, though they did use it a bit much. And you can't tell me that the Balrog wasn't pretty damn scary.
<<Sauron and Saruman>> I thought Saruman was handled pretty well, but he won't really come into his own until the next movie. As for Sauron, his appearance in the past WAS more "brutish." At that time he actually would fight hand to hand with enemies. But the Sauron of the present is different. His body was destroyed and he currently exists only as a spirit represented by the Lidless Eye. He now prefers to do his work through others: the Ringwraiths, Saruman, and...others to become apparent later.

Tolkien trivia of the day: Gandalf, Saruman, Sauron, and the Balrog were all originally of the same race of beings--the Maiar. The Wizards are NOT human. There are probably less than a dozen people in Middle-earth who know this.

*** END SPOILERS ***
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Josh:
<<how the ring could "pass into legend, then myth" when there are 3000 year old elves around to tell the stories firsthand>> Some of the elves are even older. Galadriel, for instance. But it depends on whose legends we're talking about. Elves are legendary to most of the other races of Middle-earth at this time since hardly anyone has had contact with them for centuries at least. The Ring's existence was certainly never forgotten in Gondor either, but again there hasn't been much contact between Gondor and the lands of the north for centuries. The story is being told from the perspective of the Hobbits and those in their immediate vicinity.

<<Is she a Mac user?>> Yup. :) In fact, she has my old 6100. Badly needs a RAM upgrade though. Otherwise, works fine.
<<Is she cute?>> Well, I'm biased, but I certainly find her attractive. She's six years older than me, but doesn't look it. Many people have thought that she was in her early twenties, tops.
<<Be careful though>> I know. I've thought about that a lot, but sometimes you just have to take risks. We've already been to Hell and back together, so if we're truly friends we should be able to survive this. Another good thing is that my family likes her. Heck, even my mother once told me that she wished we could be a couple. Anyway, we're taking things slow.
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DPH:
<<can you share how you acquired sanity?>> I didn't say I HAD acquired it yet. I don't really WANT to either. But I'll let you know if I do.
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Spacebabie:
<<but I cried when Gandalf died.>> Yeah, that's one of the most emotional scenes, to be matched only by... Oops! Shouldn't talk about such things. :)
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Jaden:
Welcome back.

Namarie! Entuluvan!
(Quenya: "Farewell! I shall come again!")
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, United States
Friday, December 21, 2001 10:14:36 PM
IP: 138.89.122.16

Hey, someone asked last week I think *forgot*, if there were any bad reviews of LOTR. Heh, I just found one. >.<
I'm still going to see it tomorrow anyway, seeing that this reviewer is pretty much the only one who has major problems with it. A quote, just to grab your attention.

"What rankles me is that we’re given a sort of World Wrestling Federation version of Middle Earth, where everything’s louder, uglier and dumbed-down, tailored to a modern audience that the producers must evidently believe is equally louder and dumber."

http://www.msnbc.com/news/674933.asp?0dm=C13PL
Oracle
Friday, December 21, 2001 10:12:35 PM
IP: 24.167.240.110

Hey everyone, I'm back! Well being at Fort Polk La. was an experience (one I don't want to have again). If I go to that state again it will be to visit New Orleans. ANYway, how is everyone? I missed a lot, no new papers or internet access anywhere near the place where I was staying so I'm a little out of touch.

Gotta go clean up.
Later.
Jaden - [jaden12@hotmail.com]
Friday, December 21, 2001 07:42:05 PM
IP: 172.162.239.35

Christmas break has finally arrived for me! Just the thought of some days of *rest*...yyyeeeesssssss!

Hey hey, new fanfics by Madame Destine! Yum yum! Gonna read them a soon as possible!

Josh:> <<Can you think of a better way to be rich/start taking over the world? >> Hmm...projecting a new fighter jet?
<<Short brunettes. No feminists. Agressive and Inventive. Has an IQ over 120. And a future. >> I think we still have something in store that could match your needs. Credit card or cash? ;)
<<Woohoo! Cute italian chicks!>> Who, my cousin Anna? <grins> I think you could like her...imagine somebody like Monica Bellucci (you know her, right?), just a little shorter and with curly hair...

Nukes:> << have you always been in italy? >> Nah, not "always"...just since I was born. Weird...I was sure you knew I am Italian.
<> It is my fault...I don't really like talking about myself. And, anyway, I am quite a boring person...
Siege tanks: well, I used the drop tanks with quite a success in my times. I have seen it used many times too. Sure, Siege tanks can nothing against air units, but don't underestimate the damage that a dozen of fully upgraded tanks can do to your base if dropped in the right place, especially if you direct their fire against a specific building. Anyway, my preferred unit are probably Wraiths, for the reasons that others have already expressed.
For our match, I was ntending the 24th. I can be online starting from the 12 PM Italian time (6 PM in East Coast, I think...)

Niamhgold:> <<It actually went surprisingly well >> YEAH! Go Niamhgold!
<> Ergh...no, I'm sorry, it is a sector I have never been able to expand in...
I will reply to your email tomorrow.

Dreamie:> Good to see you here again, my friend...you have been missed!

Jan:> <<the Jews were considered to be the wealthy class>> Yes, and in the book this aspect is analyzed as well...anyway, the various Christian sects had their share of responsibility, because of the two thousand years long predication against the Jews. I strongly suggest you the book...as I said, it is neither an easy nor pleasing reading, but it has some extremely interesting informations.

Fleur:> Great to see you here again! <hugs very gently>
<> Well, thank you...anyway, I was just sorry that you had to delete a comment already written. My wishes again for a continued and complete recovery. :)

I think this cover about everything! Next post when needed! See you all!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Friday, December 21, 2001 06:48:12 PM
IP: 213.213.18.121

Just got back from LotR and well.

Spoilers for Survivor.
Is it me or Should Tom be voted off next? His comments about Ethan being a Jew just pissed me off, but this guy keeps pissing me off.

and now Fellowship of the Ring.
May I say: What an overhyped piece of crap. drivel absolute drivel. This has got to be on of the worst movies of all time, even worse than Ishtar, In other words it sucked.
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GOTCHA!
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Great movie, I wanted to see it again, The Balrog was kewl and Sean astin is hot, seems he plays characters that go in caves a lot.
and well I never criedat Bambi
or Old Yeller
or E.T.
Or Titanic
but I cried when Gandalf died.
I want to get this on DVD..
No patience young Spacebabie, wait until it comes as a a giftset of all three.
Spoilers END.
Spacebabie
Orlando
Friday, December 21, 2001 05:38:57 PM
IP: 67.25.48.38

wtf. a gargoyles movie? i thought there was one a long time ago, but i didnt think there would be another. anyone care to explain?
NukesGoBoom
Friday, December 21, 2001 05:19:47 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Hey! I'm new and unsure of what to do!!! Does anyone know about the future plans of the Gargoyles movie?
Borath - [borath84@hotmail.com]
EnglandFriday, December 21, 2001 04:39:03 PM
IP: 62.7.138.148

Christine - take Becca to see Fellowship. It was scary, but she will TOTALLY dig the scary stuff. Sydney didn't much care for the SOUNDS that some of the creatures make, but she wasn't really scared... and Fox was LOVING it, he wants to see it again.

If my chicken kids can handle it... Becca will take it in stride.
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Friday, December 21, 2001 03:40:59 PM
IP: 63.28.181.90

Me again ...

Click for the Lego version of Lord of the Rings! Prowl the site also for Robin Hood, Moby Dick, Hamlet, and Romeo & Juliet. We should all have so many Legos!
Christine - [<---- Lego LOTR]
Friday, December 21, 2001 12:16:57 PM
IP: 64.24.187.62

Daniel Johnson - good to see you again.

SpaceBabie - <Am I the ONLY person who has yet to see this movie yet?> No, but it does make me wonder if watching the movie is criteria for future membership in the CR.

Imzadi - <<There is no "I" in team>: There is "me" in it.> That's something to ponder. <The truth is that in many parts of the world, the Jews are as a group wealthier than any other race. Because as a culture, they put such a high value on saving for the future, investing, and shrewd spending.> Of course. As a race, the Jews have been moved around so many times, contigency plans are always on the mind.

Speaking on contigency plans, what kind of moron goes duck hunting in a boat in cold weather 2 miles away from the nearest house without having a contigency plan of what to do if the boat tips over? Yep, you'd have to swim through the cold water or potentially wait for hours for someone to find you. Who all is that stupid? Some of my 2nd cousins.

Telemarketers - this is ridiculous. I got a call from a telemarketer asking for my dad. I told her he wasn't home. Then, she asked to speak to his wife. I told the telemarketer my dad's wife was deceased. She kept going like everything was normal. How rude!! Naturally, I hung up the phone because the telemarketer has memorized the script and didn't think about the answers that were given.

My brother and I exchanged presents last night. I won't be able to do it tonight and he leaves tomorrow morning early. He gave me a set of . . . double 15 dominoes. 10 cybercookies to the 1st person to give the correct number of dominoes in that set.

I want to watch "2001: A Space Oddessy" before the end of this year, but I am not sure about where to go about finding that old movie. Was it re-released or am I going to have a nightmarish time trying to find that movie?

Imzadi - <Basically, they could send out an email, but most people wouldn't get it before the DNS change anyway, and then they couldn't get online to GET the email that their DNS changed. So its easier to just have everyone call them.> Here's a funny story: My ISP sends out the monthly bill by email. No problem, right. One problem: I don't check that email account often enough and ended up making one late payment. So I had to switch for them to have automatic bank draft.

Rodlox - You don't have to post see an image. There is a link at the top of Add Comment page that lets you preview the images.

Daniel J - <The next thing you know, I'll begin acquiring Sanity.> Hey, can you share how you acquired sanity? Congrats.

Fire Storm - <<I'd rather not go into details about how I foiled that attempt, except to say it's classified> H.A.A.R.P.?> - No, I just played on Anthrax fears. Saying any more prevents me from being born.

**SNOWBALL FIGHT**
DPH looks around and spots various living organisms lining up to throw snowballs at him. "Damn, I promised if they were using normal snowballs I would not cheat out of getting hit," thought DPH. Suddenly, a light bulb went off in DPH's head.

Suddenly, temporal portals appeared in the CR and versions of DPH came out of them.

"All of us are from the future and we came here to help the past version of ourselves in this snowball fight," replied most of them.

"Hey, we're from the past and we came here to help the future version of ourselves in this snowball fight," exlaimed the rest of them.

"Technically, this is not CHEATING on my part. I didn't bring them here and all of them are me - from the future or the past- no clones," joyfully says the present DPH.

All of the DPHs line up opposite the CR residents who want to throw snowballs at DPH.
**END SNOWBALL FIGHT - to be continued**
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, December 21, 2001 11:56:31 AM
IP: 204.94.193.32

LotR > I haven't seen it yet either. Though I do want to and hope to soon! We're debating whether or not we can take Becca -- paper says it's too scary for kids under ten, but Becca is not exactly the normal kid under ten ; )

Spacebabie > extraction x4. All four wisdom teeth yanked. At Becca's urging he put them under his pillow.

Jan > exciting news on the baby; I do hope she can hold out another couple of weeks since what a drag for the poor kid to have that birthday-right-near-Xmas thing and getting cheated on prezzies! ; )

Dreamie > hadn't heard that story about the lake; our dorky Everett paper didn't have anything on it and we don't get local news channels thanks to the dish (sometimes I feel like I'm living in isolation <g>).

Update > am about halfway done with the next fanfic, still untitled. Once again, it insisted on being written not only from Corwin's POV but in the first person. Which, given some of the ::ahem:: content, makes for an even more daunting challenge than initially anticipated. Hope to have it done and posted next week.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, December 21, 2001 11:03:51 AM
IP: 64.24.187.62

Enters the Cr and tries not to trip over any Spoilers.
Am I the ONLY person who has yet to see this movie yet? I'm suposed to go today with my dad to see it. My brother has already seen it and now calls his friend a Hobbit, due to the fac that he is short and harry.

Three and half hours? Jeez, my dad is lucky he has a cathader so he doesn't have to worry about going to the bathroom.

Jan<<<She has never been one to maintain a clean room. Drives us all crazy.>>>I try to keep my room clean, of course its also the cat room, which also has the litter box, and their food dishes, but I clean their box daily and make sure they have full bowls.<<<He has never been the "typical" teen - he has always been quiet, tender, considerate and polite. =)>>>Now you know why I want to trade my brother for your son, of course my brother would refer to Anna as a slobbish freak and you as a geek , that’s the type of person he is.

Wilek[See’s his Avalanche, grabs a snowboard and surfs on it.]

Josh<<<Sorry I didn't post yesterday.>>>I thought you were watching the Ring movie.<<<Drugs are good.>>>Yes, Especially Caffeine<<>>That I believe.<<>>I damage them with my teeth.

Mooncat<<<Gods I love to hearing Elvish >>>Because He was the king
Spacebabie
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Friday, December 21, 2001 09:42:37 AM
IP: 67.25.54.129

Just a note before I try to sleep...

6:20am and I'm so on a happy buzz... Went to see Lord of the Rings. Experienced pure unadulterated bliss.

A moment's history on a Tolkien fan. I'd first read the trilogy completely when I was 9 years old, and I was so proud that I'd gotten through it, because I'd tried so hard the year before but failed due to the massive size of the story and changing of main character perspectives.

Fortunately the attention span of an 8 year old can improve with dogged persistence. And having already read the Hobbit I was d*mned if I'd let something like size keep me from reading and finishing the next story. From then on I read the LotR once every year until just recently. It was my annual tradition for over half my lifetime.

I think I started crying the moment the movie started, and didn't stop until the final credits rolled. Thank the powers that a slow, steady leak of tears doesn't disturb my vision *^_^* But after three hours (more or less) of movie and weeping, I think my poor eyeballs were fried.

I couldn't do the computer thing afterwards, so contented myself doing card readings with a girl friend until 2am. I love my Shapechangers deck. It's really fun. After running her home and then grabbing an apple, I did the computer thing. Read my e-mail (eyes mostly recovered) -- still need to answer my mail though... sigh.

Saw Mme. Destine's note that Ripples was up online.

whee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, I confess my eyes weren't quite up to reading it as is, so I adjusted my screen to extra large font and changed the background to a more neutral color, then devoured the new fictions *^_^*

Kewl. Not as much sex as I'd like. But very, very, very kewl =D =D =D

Ooookay... I think fatigue is finally settling in... It's been a half hour since reading Ripples (highly recommend it!) and it kept me on such a happy buzz I couldn't sleep until now. I think I'm going to crawl into bed now and dream strange dreams.

ps itty bitty notes...

Josh - Ads? You had Ads? You don't mean movie previews? That's odd. Must be a west coast thing. Here in the Midwest we don't get ads. Sometimes we don't even get previews.

kay, now will go to bed and collapse. maybe will go see movie again tomorrow. definately plan to see it another two or three times before it goes away. Gods I love to hearing Elvish *^_^* mmmmpurrrrmmmm!!!!

nite/morning
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Friday, December 21, 2001 07:39:23 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

By the way, for those of you who like to combine Tolkien with a rather dark sense of humor, somebody has just released a new Tolkien parody (I saw it at the local Borders yesterday) entitled "Roadkill of Middle-earth". The basic concept is that the peaceful land of Middle Terra Firma is suddenly invaded by a modern-day road over which a terrible dragon-like truck named Smog and its driver, the Dark Rider, come, demolishing everything in its path, and with a host of other evils following in its wake (such as roadside diners patronized largely by trolls, where the food consists of unwary hobbits who thought that they could get a meal there and discovered too late that they *are* the meal there).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, December 21, 2001 07:25:17 AM
IP: 168.191.109.202

:: peeks in ::

Josh > Because "The Lesson" was just a teaser, and like movie trailers, fanfic teasers are generally are short and sweet. That's why I posted that one under the same series as my other short, short stories. ;)

"Ripples," my latest story, is now online. As their weekend together continues, Andrea finds something while out shopping with Dominique that leads to an adventure neither of them ever bargained on.

Happy Holidays everyone!

:: scampers out ::
Madame Destine - [m_destine@hotmail.com]
Friday, December 21, 2001 06:51:57 AM
IP: 66.72.205.63

Hey folks. Sorry I didn't post yesterday. Had a minor change of plans. Okay, so it wasn't a minor change, it was a MAJOR change.

Wednesday was actually a lot of work, for my first day of vacation. We packed up nearly everything into Mike's car and cleaned the entire damned apartment. I don't think it was this clean when we moved in. At least now when we have guests over winter break they won't say "my, what a fascinating odor!"

After that it was off to the moves, we saw LotR. It was AMAZING. Today, I pulled out my old hardcover fully illustrated copy of "The Hobbit". That and Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone will be the first two books I read over the break.

After the movie, at around 2AM, we decide to embark on the 400 mile drive back to LA. We arrived around sunrise, needless to say...there wasn't a single car on the road (until we got to LA, of course, and hit the 405 south traffic at 620AM). We beat our old record by several minutes...mike driving 135 down the 5 was probably the cause of that (not a single CHP in sight!).

I walked in...and set off the alarm. This, of course, woke my parents up. After identifying myself, I unloaded the car, threw everything in my room, and went to sleep. I don't remember the last time I crashed that hard.

I woke up at around 2, and started unpacking. I've forgotten how much crap I have. I've put away most of my books (I don't sell them back to the university because they don't pay me very well and the books look better in shelves anyway...MY shelves!).

The first thing I noticed about today...THE SKY WAS BLUE! I haven't seen a blue sky in months!

Then it was off to two banks to handle various money things...I loved the look I got when I went into TD Waterhouse to "make some alterations in my retirement fund". The brokers were very proud of me for starting a Roth so young...and the other customers were sitting there wishing they were as smart as I am (and as modest, too!). So that was kind of cool.

I even got a chance to work my F-4D Skyray model today. I hope to finish it in the next two weeks.

Then it was off to my friend Nico's b-day party. A bunch of friends from high school getting together. It was awesome. I haven't seen those people in forever, and it was fun catching up.

Other than that, I'm coming down with a cold, which kind of bites a knob. But better now than in a couple weeks, when I have friends coming to visit, Macworld Expo, and a whole mess of other fun things. Plus, here in LA, someone ELSE is paying for the chicken soup! ;-)

Ooh, and I got a B+ in Math! Yay!

***LotR spoilers***

First, the ads. The audience booed the ads, because quite frankly none of us wanted to see ads. Remember the days before movies had ads? Me too. Those days are OVER.

Mike and I got everyone to boo at the Windows XP ad.

Previews: I will see Rollerball, Time Machine, and Spiderman. Even if they suck.

This movie was flat out amazing. I loved every second of it, and I was sitting in the 3rd row (I HATE the front). Now, having not read these stories, about 40 minutes into the movie, when they were charged with their quest, I was thinking "okay, in about an hour or two they'll have thrown the ring into the volcano". WRONG!

Anyway, the characters were well-developed an interesting, even Frodo (and I *hate* Elijah Wood). The action sequences were fast-paced (and a little nauseating for someone in the 3rd row. I'll have to see it again from the back, where I can actually take in everything that's going on). The scenery was absolutely stunning. The special effects were great.

The balrog was SO cool!

I don't know what else to say. I'm reading the trilogy over break. I've never been so motivated to read a story as I have by this movie.

What I fail to understand is how the ring could "pass into legend, then myth" when there are 3000 year old elves around to tell the stories firsthand. Does that usually happen because the stories are passed down from generation to generation?

And the whole Sauron/Saurumon thing? I spotted that right away. No contest.

***End Spoilers***

In other news, Windows XP has a major flaw that allows hackers to take over your computer just by your being online. Happy flying!

I love how Microsoft has managed to use the events of 9/11 as a scapegoat. They are blaming their bugs on "Al Queda hackers". COME ON!

replies.

SJ: <>: If you say so. I was quite sure I saw the face of god in the mirror this morning. <<The result? Sh!t on a cracker. And they want you to take a big bite>>: I think it'll be a fun action flick. <<it looks as if Joel Schumacher designed it>>: Does that translate to "the green goblin looks like a flaming homosexual?" <<This has something to do with a kid in a California surfing town looking to leave his home and get accepted into Stanford>>: Yeah right, like there are any surfers at Stanfurd. <<I’ve heard this film is gory, gory, gory, and gory, AND it doesn’t star Stephen Dorff, so I’m there>>: Me too. Blade kicks ass. Snipes kicks ass. <<The joke has worn thin>>: Worn thin? It's DEAD. If this one doesn't have someone hotter than Heather Graham (as IF that's possible), I'm skipping it. <<This isn’t Dungeons and Dragons, geek boys and girls>>: Even better: This is what Dungeons and Dragons spawned from! <<The fight with him and Gandalf was UNNECESSARY?>>: How could it be unnecessary!? I guess I'll have to read to find out. <<Lurtz>>: I don't remember them revealing his name in the movie. <>: I'd imagine lawyers. <>: Once I conquer, I'll force them to release them immediately. <>: So you've finally agreed to recognize me as a god. <<Are there any of you still out there who doubt me when I talk about how screwed up my relatives are?>>: Not any more.

Silvadel: <<what that says is everyone who took it got that sinking feeling thereafter>>: Yeah, I quickly realized this after talking with a few people. <>: I hate it when that happens. I had to drop my math class last semester because the mean on the first midterm was a 44/50...and I got a lowly 42. <<At the very least we should start the work of terraforming mars>>: And who's gonna pay for that? Me?! NO WAY.

DPH: <>: I don't think addictions to crack are contaigious. <<Doing nothing leads to boredom>>: Not for me. And I don't plan on doing NOTHING. <<Why do I get the feeling there might be a reference to the Holy Grail in the series?>>: There was one in the movie. <<There is no "I" in team>>: There is "me" in it.

Nukes: <>: That comment wasn't directed at you, actually. It was for some OTHER members of the CR who insist on referring to me as such.

Spacebabie: <<I’ve had a root canal, and well the Percadan helped>>: Drugs are good. <<Don’t they have a shelf life of about 40 years?>>: I dunno about shelf-life, but half of it will degrade every few thousand millenia. <<Silly customer you can’t damage a Twinkie>>: I beg to differ. <<Except I’ve eaten a cherry and a caramel, but the rest is yours!>>: Mmmm...chocolate. <<She places a cup of hot cocoa in front of him>>: A chick with an exosuit that serves chocolate. Sweet.

Coyote: Great picture! <>: Good plan. Leave them open, so you have excuses to sit home and, uh...

FS: <>: Atom splitter my eye! <<on a network full of computer science majors they couldn't find ANYONE>>: I've never understood why universities don't utilize the talent in their own student body. <<If its just a frigging network card>>: But its not. PC's don't support software base station, only macs do. You'll have to spend $200 or so to get a wireless base station, and you can still use your PC as a router/firewall. <<What speed net connection at both ends?>>: DSL. <<THAT'S for being silly!>>: Oh sure, silly gets whacked, but insane is fine. <>: I picked up on it pretty quickly. <<you don't totally reject your sexuality>>: It'd be weird if there were TWO of them. <<are you playing the devil's advocate now?>>: Aren't we all? <<ad space on cows>>: Ah, soon they will be renting ad space on coke cans. <<Death shall come soon for this website>>: Why would you want to kill your website? <<what are the odds that we would get it right on the first couple of planets?>>: Even if we did, we'd wind up screwing it up later. I mean look, this one's perfect, and we've already screwed it up!

Madame Destine: I still like your writing...but why was it so short?

Jan: <<the Jews were considered to be the wealthy class>>: The truth is that in many parts of the world, the Jews are as a group wealthier than any other race. Because as a culture, they put such a high value on saving for the future, investing, and shrewd spending. I know, I've lived it ;-) <<quiet, tender, considerate, and polite>>: No wonder he wants my magic cards! <>: Did you learn this by touching it?! ;-) <<He was such an ass>>: Money makes people react...poorly. <<You aren't going to dump snow on yourself are you?>>: He will if he's got my body temp. <<Don't forget to check on those cards while you're home, ok?>>: Feel free to e-mail me or have your son email me with a list of cards he wants. I'll be happy to provide a list of sets of cards that I've collected from, but I have several thousand cards and listing them all would be a tremendous hassle. <<Your sleep habits crack me up! *L* I couldn't survive on that type of sleep schedule>>: I don't survive on a "sleep schedule" ;-) <<Another semester down and only ____ more to go!>>: Three. Scares the bejeezus out of my parents. <<this too shall pass>>: The irony is that these are supposed to be the best years of my life. I'd rather they DIDN'T pass. <<and not ask mine either, ok?>>: LOL! That's like when my friends say "a gentleman never tells" and I respond with "well then you should have no problems spilling your guts!" <<you posting in pink is just.... well, it's wrong>>: I'd have to agree. <>: Carrot cake!? Bah. If its not chocolate, its not worth the calories. <>: I was in the same boat...it was AMAZING. <>: I feel your pain. I almost want to have two separate connections in my house in the future. <>: Where was this goofy test? I'd like to verify that I'm 99% addicted. <<What all are ya'll planning on doing?>>: CENSORED. <<where's Winterwolf and Dreamie?>>: CENSORED. <<The baby is in position and she could actually go into labor any day now>>: I'm sure that thrills Anna to no end. <<Saying bullets cause violence is like saying spoons cause Rosie O'Donnel to be fat>>: LOL!

Greg X: <<Didn't this guy read the damn book?!! "Lord of the Rings" is not for children. I wouldn't take my four and six year old cousins to see this>>: "Dude, D&D! You don't let little kids play D&D! And this is where D&D comes from!" <>: In ways you can't even imagine.

Gside: <<Digital Signal Processing, Digital Electronics (plus labs), Operating Systems, and Formal Languages and Automata>>: Have fun with operating systems...my roomie is avoiding that one like the plague. <>: That shouldn't stop her. "not that kind of" girls do that stuff too. I know, I have proof in pictures. <>: Ah, so it was a minor raping. <<I've been lucky so far>>: Till I meet you IRL and punch you out ;-) <<All the raping is assumed to be anal>>: I wonder if she likes it as much now. And if so, what does that imply? <<But... bouncies>>: Amen! Big bouncies. And g-strings. What could be bad? <<Arthur's also got that one covered>>: No, he doesn't know. <<And he *dumped* his girlfriend>>: That'd disgusting. <<Sure you want to do that?>>: My thoughts exactly. <<I'm expecting a moderating raping. I should probably bring some lube>>: From my friend at Sarah Lawrence I learned that the two most important words in kinky sex are Communication and Lubrication.

Vashdoka: <<prefer wraiths to bc's (faster movement, firing, and building, and cloaking is just too much fun>>: Thank you!

Fleur: <<catch up on stuff from BS>>: I BS a lot, you'll have to be more specific. <>: Sweet! <<I'm a glutton for sympathy>>: Also known as a female. <<how would you define 'brief period of time'? Two nights, or two hours?>>: I guess that depends on what you do and how you pay ;-) <<Though I hope you plan to post it in parts>>: But of course. Its not really one story, so much as many chapters in a saga. <<It's the same as when you hear about a new virus, and you immediately think it affects a windows system>>: Except that in that case, its correct. When was the last time a mac virus made the papers? <<what does 'chika bow bow' mean? To blatently paraphrase you, is that some weird american animal?>>: It is a reference to the crappy music in porn movies. <<just waiting for a slightly-used hunk>>: Sorry, I'm busy that day ;-) <<the only comfortable position was flat on my back in bed>>: Your boyfriend must have been bummed.

Wilek: <<It's always great to hear that there are still such nice people>>: It'll make conquering the planet so much easier. <<the CR's not quite busy enough for that>>: That, and if you posted like that every day then you wouldn't need to post like that every day. <>: My favorite thing about it is watching bad stuff happen to Joe Pesci. <<maybe order has nothing to do with preference>>: In fact you are correct. <<By which time they will be out of date>>: Or otherwise useless. <<it's treated as the alpha and omega of human interaction, and anyone who questions that is silenced with peer pressure>>: That isn't fair. Its not that you are silenced with peer pressure...ITS FUN. If you won't try it yourself, then you're gonna have to trust me on this one. Question: if the risk of disease wasn't involved, would you still find it a flaw to enjoy sex? <<Into its component quarks>>: I guess it had to be deuterium. <<You've seen that and came out with your IQ intact>>: There's NOTHING wrong with letting go every once in a while, and enjoying slap stickk humor for what it is. <<Granted, mem-sahib>>: Danke. <<You'd think genetic science would be advanced enough that we wouldn't need to do that>>: They still need sperm samples, and they've got to get them from SOMEWHERE. <<they aren't exactly common things>>: Welcome to Los Angeles. <<You wish something a touch more...creative? Good lad. I have lots of silverware and dental equipment you can try>>: I think I've got just the tool...IN MY PANTS. <<<blink> It does not follow?>>: Oh, yes it does. The conclusion is that I'm not virtuous. <<Free condoms in schools? Whatever happened to teaching abstinence?>>: Best of luck with that. Personally, I think that free condoms are better, since no matter how much you teach abstience, kids are still gonna f*ck. <<the real world isn't based on physics?>>: No, language isn't based on physics. <<Which one?>>: Mario Kart 64. The sweetest game ever. <<DOA3 is cordially invited to eat my butt with parsely.>>: I'll call Bill Gates and tell him. <<Which had nothing to do with making more of his kind>>: Who knew? <<I'll have to remember to back up my data files from the VPC disk image to the main system every once in a while>>: well actually, all you have to do is share the folder that you save them in with your mac OS. With the shared folder, you wouldn't need to "back up" at all. The files would be located in the main finder and in the VPC system. Problem solved. <<every one I have warns not to use it in a slot loading drive>>: I found out that there is a full-sized CD-ROM tray, which is shaped like a full-size CD but thin enough to fit iin a slot-loading drive. They're a few bucks. <<what's the most powerful Mac on the market just at the moment>>: Mine. Go to apple.com/powermac and check it out. The best one is a dual-800 G4, which starts at about 3 grand. <<are there DSL drives for them?>>: You mean DSL modems? Yeah, most DSL services support macs. <<does MacOS have anything along the lines of Autoplay?>>: No idea what this is. <<MacOS doesn't have AVI or MPG players>>: Quicktime plays both. Sadly, it doesn't handle DivX very well yet, so I have to watch all my DivX dirty movies in VPC. <<MacOS seems to be a lot more resource oriented than Windows>>: Not at all, its all the same. It uses virtual memory the same way, processor time sharing is better organized though. <<dollars? GAHHHHHH@#$%@#$@$%^&%>>: Bad news, dude. Professional productivity software is EXPENSIVE. MS Office is $450. <<it takes a lot to annoy me anyhow, and most of it stems from human stupidity--and that's a trait I never want to get over>>: Yeah, but now my reaction to it is lessened. I used to yell at people for being stupid, now I just laugh. <<Don't want to develop an ego>>: Having an ego can be fun too. <<it stems from adrenaline, and the brain and body react to adrenaline in a manner that has been quantified>>: Quantified, yes. But YOU haven't felt it. <<Things always look very different and somewhat misleading from the inside>>: Says you. There's nothing about an outside view that is inherently better than an inside view. <<Occam's Razor and I don't get along>>: I don't get along with any razor. Especially the one I use to shave my face. <<Yow. I should hope that prices have dropped since then.>>: Considerably. <<Any word on when they plan to deploy this thing?>>: None, and I don't think they're gonna tell us. Would YOU tell us? <<when is women's equality scheduled to happen>>: Never. <<You'd be amazed at what it takes to get me to dislike someone>>: No, probably not. <<I'm glad to see *someone* is trying to whip human sexuality into some semblance of reason>>: I like to have fun, but I'm no moron. <>: Probably not. <<my e-mail is going to be a cast-iron Witch With A B to transfer, but oh well.>>: You'll want to switch to OS X's mail.app or Eudora, which are far superior in terms of security and features to Outlook and Entourage. <<Never tick off a large amount of geeks>>: Especially ones that are rabid about their platform's superiority. Users of any OS will want to say "our system is the FIRST to ignore magic lantern!" <<For some reason I thought Apple had its own proprietary graphics hardware or something>>: Nope. Apple's been using ATI and NVidia for a long time now. <<Yow.>>: Well, in all fairness, I didn't start until the last day of the semester 8-). And then it took me a 1-hour plane flight. The problem is that I didn't want to still be creating microsoft word docs while I was transferring formats to AppleWorks. Basically, it took all semester because I was lazy and busy ;-) <<Glad most of my things are either neutral or could only open in VPC>>: I'm concerned that you're missing the point here. The point of VPC is to use it as infrequently as possible, only for a few windows-ONLY programs that require it. A few games, a particular application for your job, whatever. But not for writing documents, or surfing/email/chat, or that stuff. Anything that is "platform neutral" should be done on the mac side, to benefit from the integration of OS X. There are no benefits of using AIM in VPC. That's just silly. <<Probably only my printer, which is parallel>>: There are adapters. They're about $50-$75, but they exist. And not all printers work with them. <<that means I can't ever use either of my DexDrives either>>: What's a dex drive? <<What is Magic Lantern?>>: The magic FBI program I've been telling you about. <<In light's name, in destruction's cause. I think.>>: Whoa cool I was close! <<What's that about?>>: A thief that "hi-jacks" a family. Very funny movie. Stars Dennis Leary. <<Earthlink changed the DNS settings necessary to get online without deigning to inform me. I never found out about it until I pestered tech support>>: I've had some experience with this since I worked tech support for an ISP. Basically, they could send out an email, but most people wouldn't get it before the DNS change anyway, and then they couldn't get online to GET the email that their DNS changed. So its easier to just have everyone call them. <<A girl after my own heart>>: Careful, you might like her. Then you might HAVE SEX! ;-)

Siryn: <<Umm..work? ^_^;; Job? Family?>>: Sadly, there are only so many people I can threaten. <<.or wait a bit longer and pay $45, or even longer and pay $60>>: I'll go with $60. Its not until then that I'll know if I"m even coming. And $35 spent for a possible ticket is worse than $60 for a definite, I think. A waste of $25 vs. a waste of $35. <<yes it is a bit directed>>: Thought so ;-) <<bf had to hold me down for that>>: Bet you enjoyed it.

Nukes: <<bcs do better against buildings and other "tough" units>>: They do better against everything, because they do 25 damage per shot. The catch is that for each BC you can build 3 wraiths, and 3 wraiths will do just as much damage...faster. And they cloak. <<if u use wraiths watch out for that nasty psionic storm>>: That works on BC's too. And a wraith fleet is a lot quicker to rebuild than a BC fleet.

Dreamie: <<Pounces Josh>>: That's not a wise idea.

Kathy: <<This is not a movie you want to watch from the second row. Trust me on this>>: I discovered this the hard way.

Todd Jensen: <<A trilogy consists of three stories, complete in themselves, but linked together>>: That's not necessarily true. Otherwise, why couldn't they release them as one story, like THE STAND, which is about a billion pages long.

Daniel Johnson: <<Do you see where this is going?>>: Yup! <<Anyone wanting to comment on how clueless men are, please feel free>>: We're brain dead. I know. I'm totally lost when a girl hits on me. <<Our being friends makes it even better since I already trust her. She makes me feel safe.>>: Best of luck. But what's really important is: Is she a mac user? Is she cute? Nah, cute doesn't matter as much as mac user ;-) Be careful though...if you're not, you'll come out of this with NO best friend, and that would suck. This is why I don't date friends, and why I don't want my friends dating my other friends.

Okay, after that lengthy post, its time to crash. Good nite all!

Ishamel founded my people. F*ck Issac.
-Matteen

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, December 21, 2001 04:41:53 AM
IP: 206.170.217.57

Lord of the Rings> Saw it today. I liked it. There were some scenes that are still running in my head, others that didn't live up to the hype, but overall it was a well-rounded and balanced movie experience.

I've never read the books (got half-way into Fellowship) though I did read The Hobbit. That being said, I have criticisms of Jackson's movie:

***POSSIBLE SPOILERS***

1) Lack of the mysterious. The revealing prologue set the precedent for the rest of the movie. Everything is explained or shown. Little is left to the imagination, or left to a process of discovery or gradual unraveling.

2) The "category" that the film would most closely fall under is Action, rather than Drama, which is more what I anticipated. The battles begin too early into the film, before there has been time for anticipation of them. I have to agree with Roger Ebert's review in this regard: Jackson kind of swapped genres to make it a slam-bang action-adventure. Well, it didn't need to be set in a fantasy world for that...

3) Because of the focus on Action, I don't think the movie was very "scary." The Ringwraiths REALLY got short-changed here. From the measly half of "Fellowship" that I did read, I anticipated very creepy, horror-flick style Black Riders that got under your skin more than they outright came at you with a swinging sword. Oh, and why do they sound like Raptors?

4) Both Sauran and Saruman were let-downs as villains. Saruman I just couldn't take seriously. The man came off as far too much of a stereotypical, thin-brained, senile old man. As for Sauran, he came off as more of a sheer brute than a malevolent force. Watching him get defeated felt like watching David topple Goliath, rather than the forces of good vanquishing a dark and sinister Evil.

That's all. Gandalf was perfect, Elrond wound up being a cool as shit character (possibly the most intriguing of all), Frodo was fantastically played and served his function as the central protagonist excellently (in contrast to what I heard about him being flat and uninteresting in the books), and lastly, I very much liked the character of Boromir.

The final fight between Aragorn and that lead Orc-Hybrid? FANTASTIC.

***END SPOILERS***
Entity
Friday, December 21, 2001 02:40:38 AM
IP: 140.228.114.171

My bad.

Wilek> <<Hey, where's Warpmind?>>: He'll be around eventually, probably just temporarially distracted.
<<DOA3 is cordially invited to eat my butt with parsely>>: But... bouncies. Oh, right, you.
<<Because I can't pronounce it?>>: Just break it down into consonant/vowel pairs. Or, on the easier side of things, consider why one would study Martial Arts Tea Ceremony.
<<Such as the air speed of an unladen European swallow?>>: Nah, Arthur's also got that one covered.
<<this thing was too sick for *you*?>>: I have few problems with oddities of anatomy, but the scatologicality bugs me.
<>: Male fantasies of lesbian sex and/or multiple women is justified from assymetric nature of human biology.
<<Wouldn't all that push it to Ao>>: We just have dirty minds here. No real anal sex happens in the game.
<<Dunno. O_o>>: He ate people (they entered his digestive system) because he was a cannibal. And he *dumped* his girlfriend.
<<Who from what?>>: Glemph, and enlightened tentacle monster from the online comic Ghastly's Ghastly Comic (on keenspace).

Dreamie> <<Pounce hugs... Gside>>: Sure you want to do that?

Fire Storm> <>: Ah, my bad. Still.

Daniel Johnson> Woot.
<<She actually thought I'd be freaked out. I've had stranger phone conversations>>: But what would you do if a young unshorn hippie suddenly appeared on your front porch?
<>: My father has taught you well.
Congratulations on finding love.

Exam tomorrow. I'm expecting a moderating raping. I should probably bring some lube.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, December 21, 2001 02:25:26 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Vashkoda> <<The scenes with Bombadil were never filmed, so there's no chance of them appearing on an "uncut" version on dvd>>: But the actors are still alive, didn't say it had to be uncut, just a nice extra.

Fleur> <<what does 'chika bow bow' mean?>>: Classic porn bass riff.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, December 21, 2001 01:34:37 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

just a test...curious about...
<--
rodlox
Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:09:35 PM
IP: 24.3.26.209

I saw _LORD OF THE RINGS_ today.
*******SPOILERS FOR _LORD_OF_THE_RINGS_********
word of advice: NEVER, EVER miss one second of this movie. become part gecko if need be - because you canNOT blink during this film. [okay, blink when G. gets beaten up].

btw, Sauron didn't show up during most of the film. [and one scene that I thought was him in the previews and ads - turned out to be the Balrog].

although, with the width of those feet, I woulda thought them to be better swimmers. :)

I'm pitiful though: before the previews, they had one of those 'i'll give you four clues, and you guess the movie'....the clues were 1) height-challenged hero, i forget 2 and 3, 4) cursed jewelry....so I guessed _Willow_.

it was _LORD OF THE RINGS_.

is anyone writing a Gargoyles/_Lord Of The Rings_ crossover?

I can see it now....
*Brooklyn lands*
"BALROG! RUN!" shouts one of Our Heros...then they pause, looking at Brooklyn.
"Aren't you a bit small for a Balrog?"
****END SPOILERS****

Rodlox - [@hotmail.com]
Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:06:58 PM
IP: 24.3.26.209

Evening folks. Seems like forever. Oh, wait--it has been. :P Sorry, but I seem to have developed this thing called a Life. Most inconvenient. The next thing you know, I'll begin acquiring Sanity. ::shudder::

One interesting CR related thing that happened to me recently was a phone call from lain. From Canada. A most interesting conversation. She actually thought I'd be freaked out. I've had stranger phone conversations. :)

I saw The Fellowship of the Ring yesterday. I am in 100% agreement with SJ on this: it is simply the most perfect movie I have ever seen. I am in awe of Peter Jackson. I couldn't have imagined anything better. There's nothing more that I can say that SJ and others haven't already. GO SEE THIS FILM!

Oddly enough, the most fun I had yesterday wasn't watching the movie. It was playing checkers. Understanding why requires some background. You might remember me talking about this friend whose fiance died early this year after a two year battle with brain cancer. I'd probably describe her as my best friend. We've always been able to talk about anything, we like similar things, we both lost loved ones to horrible brain illnesses and often commiserated about our problems during said illnesses. We've been through things that no one could possibly understand unless they had also experienced them.

Do you see where this is going? I never did. Needless to say, I was very surprised to discover that I had fallen in love with my best friend. It doesn't seem so surprising now, and even seems like the most natural and inevitable outcome. Even more surprising was that she seemed interested in me. When I was telling her about how excited I was about seeing The Lord of the Rings, she asked if I wanted company. Then later suggested we go for dinner afterward. Which we did. :) Then we went to this Italian cafe for desert and played checkers while we ate. And she insisted on paying for everything as my Christmas present. We also spend hours on the phone together talking about all kinds of silly things. And it wasn't until my sister-in-law, after having met Sammi for only about an hour after my mother's memorial service, told me "she likes you, you know" that I realized what was happening. Duh. Anyone wanting to comment on how clueless men are, please feel free.

Love is a strange emotion. There are different kinds of love, of course. I already loved her as a friend, and have for years. But I've never been IN love with anyone before. Infatuated, yes, but that's not the same thing. It's a glorious feeling. :) Our being friends makes it even better since I already trust her. She makes me feel safe.

Anyway, I should stop my rambling before I make everyone sick. If I'm not around for next few days, I wish you all a Merry Christmas (or insert holiday of choice here)!
Daniel Johnson - [danielj7@mac.com]
Ocean Grove, NJ, United States
Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:03:11 PM
IP: 138.89.122.16

I'll confess that this is a bit on the pedantic side, but:

"The Lord of the Rings" isn't actually a trilogy, either the book or the film. A trilogy consists of three stories, complete in themselves, but linked together. "The Lord of the Rings" is a single story that had to be released in three instalments because it was so long. It's more like a "multi-parter".
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, December 20, 2001 09:07:38 PM
IP: 63.183.39.148

I went and saw Lord of the Rings last night. Word to the wise: get there early. This is not a movie you want to watch from the second row. Trust me on this.

Non Spoiler Comments. I thought it was beautiful and it justified the three hour run time completely. Funniest part of the night: the guy sitting somewhere in mid-theater who exclaimed loudly "What the hell???" when the screen went black and the credits started to roll. I guess no one told him it was a trilogy. Hee. But I understood his sentiment. If there'd been an intermission or two I'd have gladly sat through the whole trilogy at one fell swoop.

It was a beautiful translation of the book and I highly recommend it for all of the reasons Sevarius Jr. mentioned.
Nice review, SJ. Very comprehensive and well thought out.

kathy
Thursday, December 20, 2001 08:38:00 PM
IP: 24.98.56.90

Well, Sevarius Jr. does make a good point about the nitpicking. But my biggest concerns were generally over matters where the changes had been made needlessly. Dropping minor scenes for the sake of time constraints (and one could view the Bombadil business as a relatively minor scene) I don't have any problems with.

* A FEW FRESH SPOILERS *

The bit that bothered me about Merry and Pippin's joining Frodo in the movie was that it was portrayed as an accident - that is, they just happen to bump into Frodo and Sam while out on a mushroom-filching excursion, and decide to tag along with them. In the book, they join Frodo because they have been observing him closely for some time, realize that he is planning to leave the Shire, and deliberately plan to accompany him, whether he likes it or not, out of loyalty and friendship to him. That makes their joining the party more purposeful. I think that that aspect of it should have been handled in the movie, somehow, to strengthen the friendship element.

Another bit that bothered me when I saw it yesterday was Gandalf accidentally hitting his head against the ceiling and chandelier of Bag End. It made him look a little too silly. Please, give the Grey Wizard some dignity!

However, for the most part, I do agree that the movie was quite good on its own level, and visually very effective. (One particularly great scene that I forgot to comment on last time was the bit in Moria where it shows the orcs swarming after the Fellowship in all directions - especially crawling down from above - brrr! Or the big panoramic view of Barad-dur, with the Black Riders galloping forth, and Gandalf horrifiedly watching the storms in Mordor from a distance, outside Minas Tirith). And some of the added scenes worked for me (particularly Elrond recalling bitterly how Isildur had refused to destroy the Ring, and feeling distrust towards all humans as a result - it obviously wouldn't help matters any better over his daughter plighting her troth to Isildur's direct descendant, for that matter).

But I'll say no more of it for now. I am considering seeing the movie a second time, a week or so from now. Maybe I'll be able to judge it better that time.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, December 20, 2001 07:22:56 PM
IP: 63.183.39.143

Jan: <Work related>
Hearing about your workday definitely makes me feel better about mine!

Gside: <You sure you have it automatically checking your mail?>
Oh, it's checking the mail, showing the green arrow in the Netscape window and playing ding.wav when I get mail.
I just miss the little icon next to my clock and the notify.wav file playing.
<We're all lazy and unofficial (and it's finals season), it was a weekend, and they probably don't care much about us.>
Well now, that WOULD explain it!

Siryn/Ravyn: Ah, don't worry. LM worries that she doesn't answer her e-mail soon enough too!

DPH: <**DPH waits, hoping to see 3 people agree to cooperate to hit DPH with snowballs.**>
*FS, in his human//Fae form enters with 12 QwikKlones*
Ask and ye shall receive!
<I'd rather not go into details about how I foiled that attempt, except to say it's classified>
H.A.A.R.P.?
<How much would the farmer charge to place an ad on his cows that said my owner is a moron?>
I think the people buying the space are morons. The person selling the space is a genius!
<Didn't you complain to me about sending a letter that contained a white powdery substance with a note on the inside explaining that that was not Anthrax?>
No, because that sounds like something I would do.
<Did you get a hold of NC 6.2 using a 56.6 modem? If so, how long did it take?>
Na. I am spoiled. DSL.
But expect it to take a few hours at best.

Wilek: 
Could you just imagine Xenomorph drones going around and singing Christmas Carols?
<Live birth? Intriguing...>
Rare, yes, but sometimes there are no hosts, and life must continue somehow.
<Kewlies. Remind me to arrange the interview...sometime in Jan. 2002, when I'll have time for it>
No problem!

Websites and Webservers are like life.
Live is a cycle.
There is a time for life, and a time for death.
The time for death is soon approaching.
It shall be a time for Reaper.

silvadel: <At the very least we should start the work of terraforming mars.>
Why change the planet when we can change ourselves? I mean, out of all the planets out there, VERY few are Earth like and those that CAN become Earthlike would take thousands of years to do so.
But genetic manipulation can modify a person in a matter of a few generations.
PLUS, what are the odds that we would get it right on the first couple of planets?

Fire Storm
Thursday, December 20, 2001 06:39:58 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Hey hey All! I hope you're having a happy holiday. ^_~

Jan:<<Speaking of mushy couples... where's Winterwolf and Dreamie? Haven't seen them in a long time.....>>

We've been really busy the past few months. With me in college, homework, wolfie looking for a job, and generally spending all the time we can with each other, the internet doesn't cross our minds as much as it used to (and subsequently I find I somehow became addicted to Baldurs Gate II ^_~). At the moment wolfie is in NY visiting his family and friends. We really miss each other... so much so that Wolfie is currently seeking out tickets for the earliest he can get back to Seattle... over a week is just too long for us to be apart and stay mentally stable. :( :::whine::: I miss my wolfie! :*(

Anyway.. in other news, finals are finally over... jeesh I thought it would never end. Overall I think I'm pretty happy with how the classes turned out.
I also got my Wacom tablet in the mail today... damn the thing's a lot bigger than I imagined. The only problem is, there doesn't seem to be a wacom CD or manual in the box, dangblastit! Right now I'm waiting for the company to call me back about it. I'm really itching to use the thing. :D

I'm not sure if any of you out there heard the new news story about the "72 year old mystery" in a Washington lake? Christine you might have.... it was in the Seattle PI today and should be going to national news if it hasn't already. It's been on local news for weeks now. You see, 72 years ago a couple disappeared while coming home a day before the forth of july with their new washing machine, leaving their two young boys without their parents. It was rumored back then that the couple had driven off highway 101 into Lake Crescent but not enough conclusive evidence could be found to verify. Now, this is my personal favorite lake as well as my family's. My dad has scuba dived in the lake since he was 21, just after the equipment was available to the general public. He's found numerous cars, bottles, and all sorts of things (let's just say we never buy watches ^_~) in just this particular lake, and after the missing person's case was recently reopened, was asked to help the Park service locate some of the cars he'd found as an expert on diving the lake. Anywho, long story short, my Dad and Brother are on the front page of the Seattle PI. The article can be found here: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/51413_mystery20.shtml
(article error: Pontbriand didn't find the running board, dad did, lol)

It's a great distraction from all the morbid terrorist news, no? ^_~

Oh yeah.. and Shameless travel plug! :::points::: http://www.logcabinresort.net

Another news item though... the infamous Green River killer has supposedly been apprehended. It's really eerie that the guy went to a high school my old school played against frequently... I mean yeesh the man lived about 2 miles away from me o.O

South park last night was f'n hilarious! ;D

Ravyn: Did ya catch you-know-who on Excess last Saturday? ^_^ :::CUTIE COUPLE NOOGIES TO YOU TWO!!::

Christine:<<Snowball fight > enh, best I can do is a handful of chilly rain. Water balloons, anyone? >> How 'bout we throw Santa Peeps? >;)

Welcome to all the newcomers, and Happy Belated Birthday to all those I missed!

:::Pounce hugs Shadowrider, Niamhgold, Josh, Lynati, Vashkoda, SJ, DPH, Greg B, FS, LM, Gside, Revel, Jan, SOROW, Tailweaver, Aaron and Mara::: ^_^

I think that's about it... Everyone have a happy holiday! ^_^

"It's christmas time in hell!"
Satan- South park
Dreamie
Seattle
Thursday, December 20, 2001 06:15:37 PM
IP: 172.180.2.6

Time for a review.

*****LOTR: FOTR REVIEW*****

There were very few films this year that I really found worth my time to go see, let alone get excited about months before they open. There were a few…..some of them didn’t disappoint (Rush Hour 2, cause hey, it’s Jackie Chan, and The Object Of My Desire ™ Zhang Ziyi), and some were abominable pieces of hot monkey feces (Burton’s Planet of the Apes. Stick to the Goth crap, Tim.). There was one film though, that I had been waiting on for ages….The Fellowship of the Ring. Now, while I am a huge Tolkien fan, I’m not a super, uber, rabid foaming-at-the-mouth Tolkien fan. I recognize the man’s genius, and that LOTR is THE definitive work of fantasy fiction, but I’m not somebody who has made LOTR their entire life. The trilogy ranks up there on my personal list of the greatest books ever written, but I’m not anal enough about the novels to start to pick the movie apart based upon them (more on that later).

Anyway, I caught the midnight screening, because hey, I wanted to be the first kid on my block to see the film, and why wait till the late morning to catch the flick when my insomnia dictated that I had a few hours of consciousness left to kill? So I checked out the late screening. The place was pretty packed, and the crowd was enthusiastic. After waiting for a good half-hour for them to run something other than advertisements and Britney Spears Pepsi commercials on the screen (we get it, Bob Dole isn’t talking about the dog), the coming attractions played. I always love coming attractions….it gives me an idea of what flicks I may want to see in the near future, and what to stay the hell away from. Here’s a rundown of the ones they aired.

“Queen of the Damned”. Starring the Artist Formerly Alive Known As Aaliyah. This is some sort of bastard sequel to “Interview with a Vampire”, and dear God does this reek of bad B-Movie. Here’s the skinny – Aaliyah is big bad Egyptian-like Nubian vampire queen, who apparently likes to kill everything, human and vampire included. Lestat hooks up with her, other vampires plot to take them down. Yawn. Too bad THIS had to be her last flick before she died. I’ll say this one nice thing about the flick – at least it doesn’t appear to be nearly as homoerotic as “Interview” actually was.

“Rollerball”. Okay, here’s a nifty idea. Take a really crappy 70s sci-fi flick, and update it for the new millennium. The result? Sh!t on a cracker. And they want you to take a big bite. Starring Jean Reno (who hasn’t done anything interesting since The Professional), Rebecca Romijn-Stamos (donning the worst wig I’ve ever seen and using the worst accent I’ve ever heard), LL Cool J (who just nauseates me on many levels), and some pretty boy tool who I’ve never heard of before. This film looks only slightly better than that Rollerjam crap they had on TNN a year or so back.

“Spider-Man”. WELL. So we know there will be one film I’ll be seeing this summer! However, the plot seems weak, I’m not sure about Sam Raimi’s directing, this has “blockbuster” written all over it (and not in the good way), Tobey MacGuire has muscles but sounds like a little girl, and the Green Goblin costume is maybe the most abysmal thing I’ve seen in years (I mean, it looks as if Joel Schumacher designed it). But, the sfx look good, Kirsten Dunst is hot (thank you, wet t-shirt shot), and I’m a comic book mark so I’ll watch it anyway.

“Orange County”. This has something to do with a kid in a California surfing town looking to leave his home and get accepted into Stanford. There’s a mix-hap which forces him to try to apply in person. What the hell, it has Jack Black in it, so I’m there. WONDERBOY!!!

“Blade 2” This was more of a teaser trailer. Most of the shots seemed to be lifted from the first film, with a couple new ones of Blade striking cool poses (“Great Saiyaman!!!”), and an all-too brief glimpse of the Vampire assault team (led by Ron Perlman) that Blade teams up with. I’ve heard this film is gory, gory, gory, and gory, AND it doesn’t star Stephen Dorff, so I’m there.

“Austin Powers 3: Goldmember”. Memo to Mike Myers: The joke has worn thin. That is all. Teaser trailer featuring Mini-Me dressed as Austin Powers running around being chased by other minutes in London. Way to run it into the ground, guys.

Finally, the movie started. So, what were my opinions of the flick? It was something like

BEST MOVIE EVER.

Well, that’s really not that fair. I haven’t seen every movie ever made, so I suppose I can’t make that statement. In that case, I’d have to settle for

COOLEST MOVIE EVER.

Hmm…..again, there might be a cooler movie out there that I haven’t seen….so, I’ll just have to say that this movie is

PERFECT.

And it is. It’s absolutely, 100%, perfect. This is as good as it gets, folks. From the acting, to the story, to the cinematography, to the special effects….it’s perfect. It can get no better.

Now, I read Todd’s review, and honestly, it really pissed me off and also it frightened me that there are people out there in this world who are so consumed with the small details, that they want to nitpick such a great film to pieces just because of meaningless sh!t like, for example, Tom Bombadil being left out of the film. WHO CARES. THIS IS AS GOOD AS YOU WILL EVER GET IT, SO STEP BACK AND REALIZE HOW GREAT THIS FILM. If Tolkien himself had ever deigned to write a screenplay for LOTR, it would look like this. Maybe not 100% exactly like this, but honestly, I don’t even think Tolkien could do better than what Pete Jackson has done. So quit your goddamn nitpicking. This isn’t Dungeons and Dragons, geek boys and girls. This is an absolutely perfect translation of the books, an adaptation created with such loving detail that in a thousand years of films no one could possibly approach this material and do a better job than was done here. “Well, this wasn’t in the book, and this was done a little differently, and – “ SHUT UP. It doesn’t matter. Normally, I’m the first to nitpick. I mean, take Spider-Man. If they screw the movie up, I’ll will have a mad-on for them like no one else. But my point is, criticism of such trivial matters concerning THIS film are just unnecessary and foolish. Why? Because this isn’t some weak adaptation of the book. THIS IS PERFECT. This film is so good on so many levels, that petty and inconsequential criticism is worthless. It’s like looking at the Mona Lisa and pointing out one lone chip of the paint, or listening to Mozart searching for one note hit off-key. This is perfection. Enjoy it for what it is, instead of trying to find a flaw.

There’s the acting. If you can call it that. Because the actors don’t act, they *become* their roles. McKellan IS Gandalf. Never did I look at him and think about the actor in the role, because he WAS the role. It’s almost ungodly. Elijah Wood is Frodo. From the beginning of the film, showing Frodo’s carefree nature, to the end where the burden of the Ring is upon him, he’s perfect. Sean Austin as Sam is remarkable. He conveys all of the brotherly love and unwavering loyalty perfectly. Billy Boyd as Pip and Dominic Monaghan as Merry add humor and a light-hearted nature to a film that is often immensely dark. Viggo Mortensen is utterly believable in his role as Aragorn. John Rhys-Davies as Gimli, Orlando Bloom as Legolas, Sean Bean as Boromir, Christopher Lee as Saruman, Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, Liv Tyler as Arwen, Hugo Weaving as Elrond, Ian Holm as Bilbo……all are unbelievable. They take their roles, and make them real. It’s dead on perfect.

The story is perfect too. The adaptation here is perhaps the best I’ve ever seen for a novel to the screen. The parts that were added brought a new layer of depth to the film, IMO outweighing anything that was cut or reduced to make the film fit time constraints. Saruman’s increased role in the film was wonderful (The fight with him and Gandalf was UNNECESSARY??? There is no hope for you.), as it shows just how corrupted he has become and how much of a threat he truly is, the birth of the Uruk-Hai was chilling (as was their field commander, Lurtz), and the opening introductory sequence was among the best and most awesome intros to a film that I have ever seen. There’s too much to get into here, little parts which I loved, like the other world that Frodo slips into using the ring, the horror of the Ringwraiths, the awful power of the Great Eye of Sauron…..it’s scary what Jackson has done here.

The directing is dead on…..I have scene every film that Jackson had directed, from “Bad Taste” to “Meet the Feebles” to “Heavenly Creatures”….and this is by far his best work ever. He has accomplished something here that I don’t really think the big guns of Hollywood could have. Spielberg couldn’t have made a film this good with the same material.

The special effects were…..they can’t be described by words. The imagery here…..Middle Earth is REAL. It’s real. It exists somewhere, and Pete Jackson found it, and that’s where they’ve been filming things these past 2 years, not New Zealand. From the Shire, to Rivendell, to the terror of Mordor to the dwarven architecture of the Mines of Moria, this IS Middle-Earth. It’s real. The attention to detail here is breathtaking. You defy you to not look at Rivendell in particular or Moria and not have your jaw drop. It doesn’t look like cheesy CGI effects. It’s astounding, realistic imagery.
The forces of Sauron……incredible. The Orc army kicks the ass of anything I’ve ever seen in a film as far as bad guy hordes go. Stormtroopers? Screw them. Armies of Anubis, a la Mummy 2? Cheap crap. Orcs rule. They move like animals, they act like beasts, they swarm like insects. They are truly frightening creatures to behold, and no two are alike. The detail in the Orcs alone, from their costumes and weaponry to their facial characteristics is unreal. I want to join the Fighting Uruk Hai. The Ringwraiths? Some of the most nightmarish creatures ever created for film. Sauron? I want to grow up to be just like him. From his all-too-brief scene in the beginning (bitch-slapping away the forces of good with his sword) to the Great Eye, Sauron is a real force of evil in the film. You can literally feel how dark and powerful he is. The Ring itself is a living thing in this film, drawing others to it and bending their will to its own. There wasn’t enough Gollum for me, but what we did see was disturbing. The Cave Troll was horrific, and truly one hell of monstrous force. That’s what the damn Rancor should have been. The Krakken (I know that’s not it’s true name) was fantastic. And finally…..there was IT. The Balrog. GodDAMN. It may not go down in history as the coolest looking movie monster of all time (although it arguably damn well is), but it will be remembered as one of the most memorable). It was truly an awe-inspiring creation. It looks exactly like what I would imagine the demons of hell to appear as.

I could go on for hours about this film. Bottom line: this is it, folks. It will get no better. Never before, and never again, will Tolkien’s work be done so perfectly. And you will be hard-pressed to fine a film that is as all-together flawless as this film is. Best adaptation of a book EVER. This is the film – and trilogy – that changes everything. It will most likely change genre films as we know them (at least in terms of special effects and attention to storytelling) and fantasy films will NEVER be the same, because this movie unzips its pants, whips out it’s mule, and pisses on everything that has ever come before it. It’s THAT DAMN GOOD.

If you haven’t seen the film yet, DO IT NOW. Don’t wait. Sit back, and be blown away.

As it stands, I can’t wait for another 2 years to see this trilogy complete. Hell, I may have to put aside my plans to destroy the world just long enough to see this trilogy done. I have a new god to worship, and his name is Pete Jackson. Come kneel at his altar.

Lucas who?

***END REVIEW***

Christmas can be a strange time, no? Sometimes you get weird presents for the holidays. Today I received, without a doubt, the most bizarre gift I’ve ever been given.

It’s a signed book, autographed by Matthew Lesko.

Yes, THAT guy. The guy who dresses up in a Riddler costume and hocks books on TV about how to get free government money.

This is a gift that was given to me today. Are there any of you still out there who doubt me when I talk about how screwed up my relatives are?

Sevarius "My opinion means more than yours does" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Thursday, December 20, 2001 05:06:57 PM
IP: 207.172.11.148

Nukes> Sorry, I'm leaving on vacation and can't play 'til I return.

Happy holidays all!
Vash
Thursday, December 20, 2001 04:28:00 PM
IP: 129.98.122.194

Vashkoda - <Starcraft> It's interesting how many people here play it. I like terran myself, but prefer wraiths to bc's (faster movement, firing, and building, and cloaking is just too much fun). >>

4 people here play it. you, me, josh, shadowrider.

wratihs can kill bc's, but bcs do better against buildings and other "tough" units (archon, devourer, etc..) and also do better against defensive structures (cannons, turrets, spore colonies). but i can see why you like wraiths so much (if u use wraiths watch out for that nasty psionic storm ;).

you wanna play some today?
NukesGoBoom
Thursday, December 20, 2001 02:49:15 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Hey gang!

There will be another update soon (as in, this friday) as well as a gathering update, so stay posted to those email boxes for more details.

Lady Mystic> I am SOOO soorry about not emailing that cgi form to you sooner..its just been majorly hectic atm. I'm emailing it to you right after posting this. <:)

Vash: Thankyou for the costume tips in S8! I appreciate them!!

Josh> >>Us too. And despite what certain elements might say to the contrary, it is possible to please everyone all of the time.<< I'm not so sure on that...but I will try to make the majority happy at the very least. ^_^;;

>>Easily done. Now where do I get the $$ to buy my favorite garg (me) a plane ticket? ;-)
Umm..work? ^_^;; Job? Family?

>> Does "not early bird" registration include the free banquet meal also?

Yes it does..in fact any 3-day gathering registration has a free meal..but here's the thing..you can register now and pay $35 for 3 days and a meal..or wait a bit longer and pay $45, or even longer and pay $60? <:)

<<not needed, but it would REALLY be nice if you told us!>>: That sounds suspiciously directed.

Well, considering the whole point in POSTING them on the website is to give people ideas and help out with their costumes..yes it is a bit directed.

Lord of the RIngs:
Heh.. Umm...I'm not sure what I can add to this..on account of never reading that triology (i have read the hobbit though). (And I've already been lectured because the book is sitting on my desk..and according to my friend, "If you REALLY wanted to read it Laurean, you would make time." (hehe..bf had to hold me down for that...considering..I don't know..doing HOMEWORK (in itself requires a lot of reading), working on a CONVENTION, going to SCHOOL, and hanging out (while sometimes doing one of the above at the same time) just so I can say I had a life...gee...I wonder If HE can find bloody time!!!!! ;P) I saw the movie last night...some parts were very jump out scary (or maybe I was just being easily frightened that night. O.o;;;;) it was visually amazing...heh...but..I don't know..maybe I need to see it again just to be sure I got everything...but eh.:/

Wizard Fight> I kinda agree I didn't like that either....:>

Anyways, any questions, comments or anything about the gathering I'm available by email as always.

Siryn -- Gathering of the Gargoyles Leader! (or Con-slave??) - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Thursday, December 20, 2001 02:42:57 PM
IP: 24.93.24.2

Ok, global warming...

1)The earth is better at eliminating most of it than we suspected. +

2)There have been times where nature has put more odious stuff into the air than we are doing. +

3)There might have been an ice age coming (which wont happen now) +

4) The earth is on a perpetual warming trend because the sun is getting brighter slowly but surely -

5) Each degree of warming causes a larger affect on earths climate than we once thought -- it wont take too much to say melt the ice caps -

6) Adding carbon dioxide makes more plants which work to reduce polution +

7) A higher temperature makes more nasty microbes and such that cant otherwise survive as easily -

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Yes global warming is occuring... However I think we could do better by working on not encroaching further into those areas that remain of wilderness than by pumping out a little less. I think that it would be a good idea if the oil industry stopped being quite so greedy and put out the cars that get 70Miles to the gallon that they could do, that the power plants in the midwest lose that idiotic grandfathering that lets them polute so badly.

Polution causes more damage with acid rain than it does with the warming of the planet.

Personally I think a lot of common sense things would go a long way towards containing the problem, and that extreme stuff is not warrented at this point -- especially if it is unilateral. Until china, india, mexico, and other countries which have MUCH more relaxed environmental laws than we do come to the table, I do not think drastic measures would help at all.

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What we really need to do is to get off this planet and explore the stars -- something which seemed very possible in the late 60s that we have backed off on tremendously since. At the very least we should start the work of terraforming mars.
silvadel
Thursday, December 20, 2001 02:39:45 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

I got RPG Maker for the PSX recently...and it broke my brain. O_o I have renewed respect for Square and their like after seeing what they have to go through to put out one of these games...

Jan> <> It's always great to hear that there are still such nice people. :)

Niamhgold> <<Jeebers, man...you should post like that every day ;)>> Heh...the CR's not quite busy enough for that. O_o <<Care to share?>> He should be arriving any minute now...[An inchoate field of holostatic fills a somewhat small area of the CR, spending several seconds resolving itself into what appears to be the desiccated corpse of a ten year old child, hairless, eyeless, resplendent in white robes; its movement is reminiscent of that of a frightening stop motion animated puppet. As an echo of its operator's true form, it wears a mistletoe brooch pinned to its robe where a Starfleet commbadge would be. It looks around, then floats up to Wilek's eye level and asks him, sounding like the backward talking dream sequence from Twin Peaks, "CR success resolv?" "Yup. The isometric projectors seem to be operating at nominal capacities." "Posit." The hologram floats around a bit, taking in the sights and creeping people out, before stopping at a table and gesturing, initiating the transport of a Christmas present wrapped in black paper with sprigs of mistletoe on it. "Given vor CR." The projection then floats to an isolated corner of the CR to observe and interact.] Heh...being a plant, he hasn't *quite* figured out the whole language thing yet. O_o <<Christmas Story is a classic cult>> I have to admit, for me it gets old after a while. Too normal. <<still have this weird thing for Home Alone ;)>> I think my favorite thing about that movie is the music. ^_^ <<Of course, my faves are the cartoon specials, like the old Rocko's Modern Life Xmas ;)>> Those are great, aren't they? Haven't seen the RML special...I imagine Nickelodeon will never show the early eps again, though; not after figuring out exactly what was going on under the surface of that show. O_o <<I'm too scatterbrained for my own good.>> Welcome to my world. O_o <<Chatting with the office regulars numbs the _brain_.>> Never interact with sane people. <<Yummmmmm. :)>> I've heard that playing Alice on a GeForce3 is absolutely an out-of-body experience...<drools like Homer> <<Somehow I find it out of character that "hot chicks" are listed at the bottom.>> Knowing him, he saved the best for last. (Although maybe order has nothing to do with preference--Squee's Wonderful Big Giant Book Of Unspeakable Horrors is at the bottom of my Christmas list...I doubt I'll get it, since none of the local bookstores has ever heard of it, but oh well.) <<Okay, that just earned you a venomous breed of mistletoe mutants ;)>> And they're SO CUTE! ^_^

Dapnhe> <<12 days of christmas>> ok, the deal with that is.... it's all symbolism. Catholics were forbidden to practice in England, so they made up a song to teach their children CAtholic teachings -- at least, that's the theory. it's a big secret code.>> COOooOOOOoOOl....

Fire Storm> <> I *like* you. >:) <<On the planets that the Hierarchy have left, I have left an egg bearer OR I made all of them capable of giving birth to live ones.>> Live birth? Intriguing...<<Biology and mentality? Maybe.>> Kewlies. Remind me to arrange the interview...sometime in Jan. 2002, when I'll have time for it. <<That stuff, on the other hand, no. My agent has told me not to give out that information until I secure a publisher and have the books published.>> Ah. Viddy well. <> Very intrigued...<<All things will be revealed.>> By which time they will be out of date. <> Like this?: [Wilek ties Mr. Disconnect's intestines to a lamp post and drags the rest of him three streets over.] <<an aversion to it, to the point where it is seen as a crime>> Again, it's the attitudes behind it nowadays that I object to. If it were treated rationally, I could see it as just one of those things that people do that isn't especially pleasant to think about but is a normal part of life, like schiessing. But it's treated as the alpha and omega of human interaction, and anyone who questions that is silenced with peer pressure. This just doesn't sit right with me. <<Also, what's up! You have been posting almost FREQUENTLY in here!>> I hope that continues. (Hey, where's Warpmind?) <<Death shall come soon for this website. The time to reap is near.>> I can't say I like the sound of that. O_o

Imzadi> <<All he did was split a single hydrogen nucleus>> Into its component quarks? <<Dude Where's My Car?>> You've seen that and came out with your IQ intact? O_o <<Welcome! Isn't this like twice in one week? Do me a favor and don't post again before tuesday? ;-)>> Granted, mem-sahib. <<Shouldn't you take your issues up with Earthlink?>> In due time. DC is the more immediate cause. <<I'm sure it is. But do you think its higher or lower than the guy who goes around the Singapore Zoo and collects sperm samples from elephants (the, um, hard way).>> I've heard about that. You'd think genetic science would be advanced enough that we wouldn't need to do that. O_o <<No, the smart ones keep others from discovering it.>> Well, with the important things. Besides, that's what delegating responsibility is for. <<Supposedly some are very careful. High-cost escorts, for example.>> Well of course THEY are. But they aren't exactly common things. <<::chucks hunting knife::>> You wish something a touch more...creative? Good lad. I have lots of silverware and dental equipment you can try. >:) <<I'd actually like to think its patience. Which is why I don't have any.>> <blink> It does not follow? O_o <<Your visions in the CR are far more gruesome. Much better than the standard "head on a pike".>> In themselves, yes, but Vlad was the real innovator in the entire matter. <<The thought of someone who didn't know about pleasures of the flesh ruling on important issues like free condoms in schools and such things...scares me.>> Again, *delegation*. <blink> Free condoms in schools? Whatever happened to teaching abstinence? <<Like, say, me showing up in the CR? ;-)>> That hardly qualifies as a violation, unless you start cyber-molesting someone or something. (Example of what not to do: <chooses someone at random and begins frantically licking them; gets his intestines unspooled and used as a jumprope for his trouble> Now THERE's a Maalox moment. O_o) <<But not many work in that space.>> Oh, now you sound SANE. :P <<And snorted enough coke to kill a horse.>> Which explains a lot. <<Actually they don't...its a physics thing. See, "sucking" doesn't exist in the world of physics...>> So...the real world isn't based on physics? <<an N64, which has the only game I'll ever need to play>> Which one? <<But dude...DOA3!>> DOA3 is cordially invited to eat my butt with parsely. <<But in "Naked Now" he was "fully functional".>> Which had nothing to do with making more of his kind. <<There are several competing emulators of nearly every console for the mac.>> Wow, as good as those two? Duly impressed. <<There are many viruses that do run on macs, but the fact that Mac's make up a scant 8% of the market means that most hackers don't waste their time. Also, mac viruses account for less than 1% of all computer viruses.>> Ah, so the risk is minimal. Cool. <<for VPC, yeah, you can get viruses...and then you delete the VPC hard drive file (which is really just a disk image), reinstall, and go about your merry way, without having any trouble on the rest of your system that you use for productivity, web, whatever.>> Ah. Hm, I'll have to remember to back up my data files from the VPC disk image to the main system every once in a while... <<Absolutely. Actually, only the iMac and Titanium Powerbook have slot-loading media drives. The iBook and G4 tower don't. Also, you can get an external firewire CD-ROM drive for those mini-CD's for a few bucks.>> Kewl. <> They don't; every one I have warns not to use it in a slot loading drive. <<As soon as your ready, let me know. I'll help you get set up.>> The offer is appreciated. :) (Hm...what's the most powerful Mac on the market just at the moment? And are there DSL drives for them?) <<My hope is that the Supreme Court will notice, or if they don't, that some hacker group will point it out to them.>> Hm. Wonder what their e-mail address is... <<The latest version of VPC (5) runs in both OS 9 and OS X, with the latest versions (9.2.2 and 10.1.1) recommended (those are free updates from whatever you'd get with a new mac though). Its optimized for dual-processors, though not for altivec-units (sadly, I have 6 of those in my machine). Granted, its not the fastest thing on the planet, but it gets the job done. And the revisions only get faster.>> Woot--by the time I get a Mac, the thing can probably run my Windows games at least as well as my current PC. ^_^ (And until then, I have a few games that can natively run on MacOS, such as Phantasmagoria and Myst. Hm...does MacOS have anything along the lines of Autoplay?) <> MacOS doesn't have AVI or MPG players? Ah well, that's what IrfanView is for. <> Usually. Hm...MacOS seems to be a lot more resource oriented than Windows...<> ...dollars? GAHHHHHH@#$%@#$@$%^&%^ O_o o_O Ye gods, the last time I paid more than $80 for a piece of software was a first edition copy of The 7th Guest, and it came with all manner of cool stuff...<<Suddenly, stupid stuff that used to annoy us didn't matter any more.>> Huh...it takes a lot to annoy me anyhow, and most of it stems from human stupidity--and that's a trait I never want to get over. O_o <<We had more confidence (not just with women, but in general).>> Hm. I always prefer to be cautious in that regard. Don't want to develop an ego. :P <<We were more laid back (no pun intended).>> I'm about as laid back as it gets. :P <<It was...nice. I can't be more specific than that, sadly. But this effect does eventually wear off...which is what leads to males' repeated efforts to score.>> Ah. I thank you for this; all this data is quite valuable, and confirms a very strong addiction pattern I've noticed in this matter...<<But you also don't know the rush you get from it.>> To the contrary--it stems from adrenaline, and the brain and body react to adrenaline in a manner that has been quantified. <<I'm sure skydivers would give you a different opinion.>> Things always look very different and somewhat misleading from the inside. <<Why that?>> I'm not sure. It has an exotic ring to it. <> Makes more sense than my idea. (Heh...Occam's Razor and I don't get along. O_o) <<Interesting. I avoid outlook like the plauge. I use mail.app. (Mac OS X only).>> Probably better than both of mine...<<I can see the resemblence. If you crave a bit more power, there's always the cube...which isn't selling anymore but can still be found. And I think new iMacs are due out this January, if speculation is to be believed. I'll be posting on MacWorld Expo from the floor next month, if you're interested.>> Very cool. :D <> Yow. I should hope that prices have dropped since then. O_o <<And now, the FBI says it exists. We are all f*cked now.>> Quite spectacularly. O_o Any word on when they plan to deploy this thing? (Hopefully sometime rather late into next year...) <> Which is as good a way of turning something inside out as any. <<Even the CR?>> Yup. Fortunately it is very well justified, as the last bastion of creative insanity--so shines a good deed in a weary world. <<Knock yourself out. You know where to find me.>> Cool. I'll try to get it in before 2002 (or in the first week of that year at worst); my backlog is absolutely abominable. O_o <<Again, "who cares"? ;-)>> They do, and since they don't seem to have a say in the matter (hey, when is women's equality scheduled to happen? Cause it obviously hasn't yet), it falls to me to plead their case. <<You seem to be in the minority on that one ;-)>> You'd be amazed at what it takes to get me to dislike someone. <<Thanks, but I actually ENJOY sex. I stay away from drugs and most alcohol, so that reduced my chances of contracting it via sheer stupidity/lapse in reasoning to near nil. And I always go in covered, so I should be good.>> I'm glad to see *someone* is trying to whip human sexuality into some semblance of reason...<> I hope I'm not the only one who is greatly pleased with this. :) <<Virtual PC using outlook or whatever microsoft holes they use to transport the virus would still have the virus. But the virus would only infect the disk image, which is a small portion of your hard drive. Keep all your questionable material in the Mac environment...and you *should* be safe.>> Cool. Hm...most of what on my system qualifies as questionable material is ficverse stuff and the like, which is all in neutral formats like TXT, JPG, and HTML anyhow...my e-mail is going to be a cast-iron Witch With A B to transfer, but oh well...<<Besides, its highly unlikely that they'll be able to put together a virus that will work on macs anyway, since Mac users hate this kind of stuff as much as Linux users and will quickly put a fix in...>> Never tick off a large amount of geeks. Muha. <<Actually, the GeForce3 was available for mac first. It is THE premiere card for Mac. The new bad-ass radeon (8500?) should be availabe for mac soon too.>> Cool. For some reason I thought Apple had its own proprietary graphics hardware or something...<<For you perhaps. I get my biological insight from dissection.>> FS is too valuable to dissect. Besides, it can't tell you everything. <<<<Does that mean the seller doesn't get to keep a copy of the weapon>>: Yes.>> Feh. >:/ <<There's something to be said for experimenting on yourself ;-)>> Not when there's risk involved. <<Like, say...Wndows?>> Which occurred to me as soon as I said that...<<It took me a whole semester before I'd converted all my word documents into AppleWorks docs, spreadsheets to Appleworks sheets, etc.>> Yow. Glad most of my things are either neutral or could only open in VPC... <<Plus, you may have to replace some peripherals with ones that are mac-compatible...>> Probably only my printer, which is parallel; my scanner and CD burner are USB...uh oh, that means I can't ever use either of my DexDrives either...frell. <<Laziness is an acceptable excuse. Although in light of Magic Lantern...not a very good one ;-)>> What is Magic Lantern? <<It doesn't have a head.>> That figures. <<Okay you are SUCH a mac user!>> Cool. Maybe it was meant to be... <<Careful, your speeches might come out...nasty.>> Not if SJ's half of your shared mind is in control at the time. <<Gross, dude.>> Precisely. <<Like I said, he's busy right now, but if you'll leave your name and number, he'll sow discord and violence in your country when he's free.>> Can't he go elsewhere for that? O_o <<Something about in light brings desctruction?>> In light's name, in destruction's cause. I think. O_o <<Yes, but most of those he could say in the CR without fear of retribution.>> Which leaves the ones he can't say. Feh. <<Being conquered in 20 minutes probably doesn't help.>> O_o <<The Ref.>> What's that about? <<A little early?>> Never early enough for me. <<Dude, you ruined it!>> Muha. <<I'm too frikkin' cold in Berkeley to donate my warm clothes.>> It seems like it's cold everywhere but here. O_o

Terrky> <<Pink Floyd is a very very wierd band. BUT I LIKE EM!>> I have to admit; I'm not quite into them...I mostly like The Trial from The Wall. <<BTW, does HTML work on here?>> Nope. <<i wrote a song about time travel, yes i did. but everyone thinks it's very loose. untill you get my explanation of it, then it all makes sense. kinda... i mean, it's about time travel. does it have to make sense?>> Cool.

Spacebabie> <<THE FIRST SNOWBALL FIGT OF THE CR HAS OFFICALLY BEGUN!>> [Wilek gets a very Grinchy idea. He teleports out of the CR, and a few minutes later, his insane laughter can just be heard over the roar of an enormous avalanche approaching the CR...] <<Good DC death, err torture.>> <bows> ^_^

Silvadel> <<This has been one of the warmest November to December periods on record.>> Looks like I'm not the only one suffering through this. O_o

DPH> <<do me a favor and post three times a week.>> Don't know about three times a week, but I intend to increase my rate. :) <<**DPH waits, hoping to see 3 people agree to cooperate to hit DPH with snowballs.**>> I can get six scuttlers with snowball chainguns if you like. >8)

Gside> <<Because you were (not) wondering, my network was down for the weekend. It was a horrible, horrible experience.>> I can relate--from Saturday to Monday I was unable to get online with my PC because Earthlink changed the DNS settings necessary to get online without deigning to inform me. I never found out about it until I pestered tech support. >:( <<I'm sure there are many item creation programs for one player.>> Cool. <<The regular collection of sanity stopped.>> Wha--the automation routines failed? [Wilek looks at his scuttlers with sanity collectors on them, notices they're completely and systematically trashed.] Who the...? We have a mystery, kiddies. Until we get the scuttlers back on line, we do things the manual way. <brandishes a sanity collector> Line up, think hard, and in Mr. Disconnect's case, bend over. <<Please continue this current spurt of posting.>> I'll try. :) <<Why study Martial Arts Okonomiyaki>> Because I can't pronounce it? <<There are some things only Ms. Takahashi knows.>> Such as the air speed of an unladen European swallow? <<Nope middle of exams, should anyone get one in here, our grades would die a horrible death.>> Behold the power of TEH KY00B!!!!!!1!11!11 <<Don't remember, but it was untranslated and in color. I seem to remember scatological acts and hermaphrodites, but I bugged out quickly.>> Holy belching schiesse on a shingle; this thing was too sick for *you*? o_o' If the spell doesn't work, I'll arrange a tactical nuclear strike followed by a multiplexing particle beam phalanx. <<The worst conceptually was Super Taboo Extreme, involving transexual incest.>> In nomine dii... O_o <<<<Muha>>: Shoot.>> The time delay should hit in four, three, two, one...[An apocalypse of black light bathes the target area, visible from anyone within a hemisphere of its impact.] EEEhehehee. <<See my recent discussion with Mooncat.>> I plum fergot. Summary? <> Wouldn't all that push it to Ao? <<It's the romanization of Furi Kuri (remember the lack of l/r difference). It's also the source of many puns in the first episode.>> Hm. I'll look it up. <<Think about it.>> Dunno. O_o <<That's she. She's one of Crushed's companions at supermegatopia.com. It has a bit too much cheesecake for your tastes.>> Ah. <<Haven't a clue how large your lag was this time, but it might provoke you into being more frequent.>> That it might. <<Not exactly. Hidden Weapons is a martial arts style (utilized by a Takahashi character who happens to be m'boy). I just felt like capitalizing it.>> Ah. <> If it likes to rape schoolgirls, then it should be on the recieving end of all the misfortune that Fate can muster. <<You know, you would like Glemph from Ghastly's.>> Who from what? <<You've been experimenting with trephanation?>> Not on myself, no. <> When I get a new mail, my system does Barney Grumble's "Yoo-Hoo! <belch>".

Christine> <<LOL, well, I think Tim and Becca have created a Sims house based on Hogwarts, so they're just as bad.>> Heh...I tried to build a Sims version of the Stauf Mansion, but The Sims just doesn't support those big ornate staircases, and the lights are a touch bland...

Ravyn> <<Twinkies can actually *mold*?>> Wow. Here I thought they had a half-life rather than an expiration date. O_o

Fleur> <> <crazy street person yell> YOU TOFFEE NOSED MALODOUROUS PERVERT! I FLATULATE ON YOUR TIE AND SMELL YOUR ELDERBERRIES YOU SON OF A SILLY PERSON! :P <<Have you got one in chains somewhere?>> If I put one in chains, he would summon a storm of misfortune that would end with me losing all my limbs and becoming the wife of some enormous guy in a Carribbean prison. You have to get on their good side. Hence, I know of one living in a mansion in Medford, Oregon. <<Could I rub it's head? ;)>> He'd like you to rub elsewhere, but I'm willing to go only so far in accommodating my guests, so the head is about as good as I can do. <<Forget the planet's climatic systems>> *Bad* idea. I tried the heavy-handed approach on an uninhabited test planet. Within a month, there were tornadoes every day all over the temperate regions and the poles were melting due to lack of cloud cover. O_o <> Then come up here; we've skipped winter and are beginning spring. >:/ <<am always available to babble relentlessly about science stuff, especially if my imagination gets to join in.>> A girl after my own heart. >:) <<What does that translate to?>> It wouldn't make sense if directly translated; the meaning is roughly consonant with "OMG". <<There's those great get well vibes again... I may get addicted to these. ;)>> Uh oh. You might find yourself getting hurt a lot then. :P
Wilek "Insanity Juice" Nereus
Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:13:25 PM
IP: 168.143.112.8

Fire Storm - <Ah. Easy way to defeat that: Snowball everything!> I have answer for that problem too. **DPH pauses for a moment to make a few phone calls.** I'd rather not go into details about how I foiled that attempt, except to say it's classified. <In 1984, a Canadian farmer began renting ad space on his cows> How much would the farmer charge to place an ad on his cows that said my owner is a moron? <Sorry. I have a fairly dark, twisted and sometimes subtle sense of humor.> Didn't you complain to me about sending a letter that contained a white powdery substance with a note on the inside explaining that that was not Anthrax? <Netscape 6.2 question> Did you get a hold of NC 6.2 using a 56.6 modem? If so, how long did it take?

Jan - <You aren't going to dump snow on yourself are you?> Ok, you view me as the most dangerous person around with snowballs. *DPH opens a large portal above himself, lets 5 pounds of snowballs fall out. Then, DPH disappears, but notices Jan at the same time.** Hmm. To hit you, I'll have to be more riskier about getting hit with my own snowballs than I am willing to go. <he finally admitted to being a collection agent.> Hmm, I wonder if he already went in the hole trying to collect that $150. Can't be he be sued for misrepresentation? <cheese biscuits and pecan pie?> Hehehe. Are you sure that's a good idea because I love spicy foods too? I still have quite a few haberno peppers left.

If you insist on hitting with a snowball, let me spell it out what it would take: 3 people throwing ordinary snowballs at the same time and with coordination. If it wasn't for my back, I could dodge one person throwing snowballs at me fairly easily. With two people throwing snowballs at me, I could barely manage to them both. With three people coordinating their efforts, I'm sitting duck unless I cheat, which I won't if those are 'normal' snowballs.

Terrky - it's good to know those is someone more crazy than I am in the CR.

It's 40 degrees F outside.

I was thinking about taking 1 haberno pepper, finely chopping it, and mixing it in a pizza sauce for a homemade pizza (except for the crust). Only 1 question: would that be too strong?

Jan <<Green Baron> you posting in pink is just.... well, it's wrong.> I agree.

I had to fix my computer clock, again. This game I play likes to mess up the computer time. Yep, I still like my computer to be set 15 minutes ahead of real time.

**DPH waits, hoping to see 3 people agree to cooperate to hit DPH with snowballs.**
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:20:33 AM
IP: 204.94.193.31

LM> I'm really sorry, I'm going to write you an e-mail back soon ... any time now! I'm sorry it's taken me so long. ;)

Jan> <> Thank you! :) I hope it is too ... it's going to be *freezing*, I just know it. ;) As for what we're planning on doing ... well ... seeing the sights, hanging out together ... just having a little holiday fun. Like Coyote said. ;)

Coyote> WOW!!! Dude, the new Rosanna piece you did in Photoshop looks *awesome!* :) Way to go, sweetie. ;)

**returns Coyote's huge kiss under the mistletoe** ;)
Ravyn
Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:11:42 AM
IP: 216.183.198.133

And now I embark on a desperate attempt to catch up on stuff from BS (that's Before Spine, as in pre-injury, not the _other_ meaning ;))

But first....
SHAMELESS PLUG!
I updated my homepage. I added fic. I did .... stuff. Computer (dis)Ability is threatening to resign.
END SHAMELESS PLUG!

Shadowrider> (replies from BS)> >Argh! I'm sorry I spoiled your comment, especially since you had already written it. Why don't you post it the same? After all, for sure there will be some differences from what I said...and reading your words could allow me to focalize better what I think myself. Like my Roman ancestors used to say, "Repetita iuvant", repetitions help!< *g* Please, don't worry. You didn't 'steal my opinion', or anything like that. I meant it as a compliment, really, since you basically said it all better than I could. :) (newer replies) >Oh, damnit! I am sorry of hearing that. Well, I know I am very late, but I wish you a quick and full recovery!< Well wishes are never late! Besides, I'm a glutton for sympathy. ;)

Josh> (Replies from BS)> <<Free board>>: For a brief period of time. After that I start charging rent...in one form or another.< So how would you define 'brief period of time'? Two nights, or two hours? >The only fic I've ever written is approaching 200 pages.< Okay, that's impressive. Though I hope you plan to post it in parts - 200 pages is a length that definately requires a refreshment break. ;) ><<knowing some drug-addicted cretin has been in your house without your knowing, or permission>>: How do you know he was on drugs?< Bitter past experience, I'm afraid. I live in one of the most drug-prevalent areas in the state, and both times we've been robbed, the creeps did it for drug money. It's the same as when you hear about a new virus, and you immediately think it affects a windows system. :) (new replies)>ACK! Talk a bout serious collateral damage.< My new nickname is '2mm'. >Vicodin IS a pain killer. A pretty darn powerful one, I might add. Its not easy to make a kid not notice that his wisdom teeth have been pulled out...but ever since it did, its been my drug of choice< *grumbles* rotten doctors wouldn't give me the prescription stuff. So I resorted to using this stuff called mesyndal... oh boy, that one was fun. Take it, get so drowsy you sleep for six hours, wake up and take the next dose, repeat until you bleed the box dry. >HERETIC! BURN HER! SHE'S MADE OF WOOD!< Well, It seems like I snap like balsa wood. ;) >I think she was trying very hard to avoid having dirty jokes made.< Yes, I was. >But we all know what she was doing under her friends...chika bow bow... < Curious now - what does 'chika bow bow' mean? To blatently paraphrase you, is that some weird american animal? ;)

Naimhgold> (BS reply - and yes, I know I'm leaving myself _wide_ open here ;)) ><Does she do that to get to the ice cream?> Heck yeah! For Edy's Grand Dutch Chocolate :) MMMMMMMM< I'm with the grandma. I'd lift a TRUCK for that. ;)(new replies) >Darn :: looks at empty box :: I already ate it all :( But I'll see what I can do about shipping you Brad Pitt or some other hunk ;) Of course, he may be slightly used... ;)< See, now I'm going to be hanging out by the letter box all day, just waiting for a slightly-used hunk ;)

Gside> >You could have just said you were crushed by your friends. Then those of us with diry minds would have postulated what you were doing under your frinds.< See, that's what I've been afraid of. ;) >Extend the monitor and keyboard.< At the time, the only comfortable position was flat on my back in bed, and it was just damn awkward.

Coyote> >Geez, hope you start feeling better soon. Ye gods, my back pain is a *piker* compared to yours right now. **hugs gently**< Thanks. I'm nearly normal, now, well as close to it as _I_ can get.

Emambu> ><<There's quite a few writers out there who could use another pair of eyes to look over their work. Myself included. :)>> You have my e-mail address...< If you're serious, I may take you up on that. :) >That might be the best idea, at least for me.Offensive or offended? Abuse I can do. I've watched much Monty Python. ;)Too much trouble, I'll just buy more patches and slap them all over my body.< Man, that sounds like me with the morphine patch. They're designed to wear off in three days - by the end of the third day, I'd stuck it to my skin with bandaids. :) >Eeep! OMG, I'm so sorry to hear that *would give you a big hug but seeing as that'd hurt, settle instead on a passive hug* I hope you recover quickly.< thanks. :) >So does this mean you've officially replaced Spacebabie as the new Queen of Pain?< Nah, I don't want to swipe anybody else's glory. Although I *did* just get this weird mental image of us fighting it out for the title. :) >I'm leaning towards something good looking, nude, and male. ;)< That'll be when Naimhgold ships that slightly used hunk to me, right? ;) >BTW, when was it your birthday? Happy Belated Birthday!!< November 30th, and thanks. >Get someone to buy you a wireless keyboard and mouse. My friend has one, and he almost never leaves his bed.< Ooo, tempting.

Daphne> >sorry 'bout the delay, but I hope your back heals quickly. For what it's worth, you're in my prayers.< Thanks.

*shivers happily* Ooh, I _do_ like all these nice 'Get well' vibes! :)

Wilek> >I'll see if I can arrange for something a touch better than spitting.< Have you got one in chains somewhere? Could I rub it's head? ;) >I'm a big believer in verbal contracts. :) Now if only I can figure out the mechanics of weather changing without frelling up the planet's climatic systems for good...< Forget the planet's climatic systems, I wanna warm day! ;) > O_O <checks out> Very, very intriguing...you available for consultation?Ach du mein schiesse.< What does that translate to? >O_o My words of comfort seem so inadequate, but I offer them regardless...<hugs you in whichever fashion won't aggravate your injuries>< There's those great get well vibes again... I may get addicted to these. ;) >BTW, is it currently unusually hot or unseasonably cold in Australia just at the moment? Either would explain much about what's going on up here...< Yes, it's the latter. We have now officially broken the record for the longest amount of time since the start of summer before a day above 30C hits, and it looks like it's going to enter the new year before we get some halfway-decent warmth. I am officially very annoyed about this.

Global warming> Oh hell, I'm having a 'stupid science' flashback ('stupid science', BTW is we science brat's affectionate nickname for the pair of subjects we were forced to do in the first year of my degree). From what I can gather the basic synopsis is this: We've been spitting all sorts of rotten crap into the atmosphere for the past fifty years. However, weather is so dynamic, there's no clear way of determining the full effects of this. If we are heating the planet because of this, it might even be a good thing from a purely selfish point of view, since, going on more long-term data (read: over a hundred years), Earth is due an ice-age about now. However, while I'm a bit sceptical about the Global Warming stuff, I'm a big fan of limiting the amount of chemicals I breathe in for one very simple reason: carcinogens. Weather might be dynamic, but cancer sure isn't. There's a whole lot of ways the human race can be wiped out, and it doesn't need polar ice-caps. ;)

Speaking of wiped out, I'm going to have to stop here. Very tired. Will finish this thing later.
TTFN!
Fleur - [newgoyle@hotmail.com]
Thursday, December 20, 2001 06:47:48 AM
IP: 203.25.148.61

Jan/Shadowrider> It's interesting that you mention pre-war anti-semitism. I recently watched a movie called "Focus" starring William Macy which deals with just that topic. I think it's a Canadian film, however, so it may be hard to find (I saw it at a theatre that shows mostly foregin films).

Gside> The scenes with Bombadil were never filmed, so there's no chance of them appearing on an "uncut" version on dvd. =/

Starcraft> It's interesting how many people here play it. I like terran myself, but prefer wraiths to bc's (faster movement, firing, and building, and cloaking is just too much fun).
Vashkoda
Thursday, December 20, 2001 02:57:17 AM
IP: 129.98.122.194

CtB> <<Don't have a wireframe that would accommodate a fedora, sadly>>: True, but I believe he has gone hatless in uniform a couple times.
<>: That'll be odd. Sometimes pixelated, sometimes not. Or will there be one of his earlier outfits?
<<and Rorschach's civilian identity of Walter Kovacs>>: Remember to use a shorter model.

Tolkien Thought: I would like it if there was a Bombadil extra scene on the inevitable DVD.

Imzadi> <<Next up: Geotech, Project Management, Transportation Engineering, and Structural Engineering>>: Digital Signal Processing, Digital Electronics (plus labs), Operating Systems, and Formal Languages and Automata.
<<Don't do anything *I* wouldn't do!>>: I thought she wasn't that kind of girl.
<<How can you be raped a bit?>>: I got hardly any of the first question (out of six), and I at least answered all of the rest.
<<Not at last check>>: Good, I can relax.
<<Sorry dude>>: I appreciate it.
<<Yeah, I'd rather have papercuts than fail a final too>>: I don't think I failed, just less than perfect.
<<Best be careful, on the wrong day I can be quite sensitive about such things>>: I've been lucky so far.

Welcome Mainframe.
<<is anything I can do to help concerning The Gargoyle Saga's?>>: Wait for the next recruiting drive. It should take quite a while, so stick around until then.

Spacebabie> <>: It has been used quite frequently here, as well as the synonym "bending over". All the raping is assumed to be anal.

Fire Storm> <<The task bar envelope and playing notify.wav when I get new mail>>: I still get the green arrow with new mail, and I assume it plays a sound (I keep my speakers off most of the time). There's even a check box in edit/preferences for playing a sound. You sure you have it automatically checking your mail?
<<Ok... on a network full of computer science majors and they couldn't find ANYONE?>>: We're all lazy and unofficial (and it's finals season), it was a weekend, and they probably don't care much about us.

Jan> <>: I try to be generally calm. Also I remind myself of all these games I have in my bottom drawer (level 30 assassin (Ninchan), plus other advancements on my necro and sorceress (Binky and Perky), druid's still at 37 (Rad, named after The Brown)).

This'll probably be the last mp3 for a while, so you'll have to deal with it. Weekend in New England by Barry Manilow. It'll be a bit more than a weekend for me. But that's not all, you get a special treat. An Excel Saga based music video of Bon Jovi's You Give Love a Bad Name. Sadly, that and Lain's stuff would have put me over quota, so hers got the boot temporarialy.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, December 20, 2001 02:01:44 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

LotR stuff! NO PEEKIE!!

****SPOILERS****

OH GOD!!! I loved it.

Todd, I think they HAD to take the liberties that they did. I have to admit that the first part of Fellowship seems to drag. The movie made the whole trip seem VERY urgent! I gotta agree that I could have done without the sorcerer's duel. blah.

I even LIKED what they did with Arwen! Which was one of my HUGE concerns. I cried hard when Boromir fought the orcs... It was such a good scene and it totally redeemed him.

I think that they did the most amazing job of mixing parts together to get more stuff in (like Pippin knocking things loudly into the well in the Tomb instead of at the gate room)

Great special effects too, just the fact that everyone in the fellowship is a different size and you don't notice HOW they force the perspective at times was just amazing. The birds at Isengard were great... Isengard and the trees... WOW! I can't wait for the trees to get their revenge!!!

HOLY COW THE BALROG!!! The balrog and the Nazgul were the scariest things I have seen on a big screen in a LONG time (well, other then Adam Sandler) The Balrog was just amazingly done. AMAZING!! WOW! Etc.

Okay... I am still hyper from the experience, so I am sure I will post more later that is a bit easier to understand. ;)

Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:19:36 AM
IP: 63.28.181.57

*** LORD OF THE RINGS SPOILERS ***

WOW. That was just great. Really great. Peter Jackson did it. He adapted one of the greatest books ever to the silver screen. Sure a few liberties were taken, but I don't mind at all. I still have the book, and I think the movie is a wonderful tribute.

The acting was wonderful, particularly on the parts of Ian McKellen as Gandalf. He was perfect for the role. I felt like I was actually watching Gandalf the Grey. Christopher Lee was wonderfully evil as Saruman the White, Aragorn and Boromir were played perfectly... everybody was. I'm glad they didn't cast any superstars in the movie. The last thing I'd want to see is Sylvester Stalone as Aragorn.

The sense of evil and forboding doom was great. When I heard that Sauron was going to have more of a presense in the movies (unlike the book where he never shows up), I was a little nervous. But he was wonderfully terrifying in the flashback to the Last Alliance. And the scenes that showed his burning Eye were even more terrifying. Bravo, bravo.

The Balrog looked even better than I expected, just the sort of creature one would expect to see in the fires of Hell itself. Gandalf's stand against it and subsequent fall was one of the best scenes in the entire movie.

Damn, I could go on about this movie forever, and a year seems way too long to wait for "The Two Towers". I want to see the next two right now.

Sure it wasn't the book, but it didn't need to be. It was a wondeful tribute to this great piece of literature, and I believe there is plenty of room for both in the world.

On the way over to the movie I heard a guy on the radio complain that the movie was way too dark and scary to take his kid to, and compared it to Harry Potter. Didn't this guy read the damn book?!! "Lord of the Rings" is not for children. I wouldn't take my four and six year old cousins to see this.

All and all, I give it a 10 out of 10. Great movie. With this, hopefully that horrible Bakshi version will finally be buried and forgotten... woohoo, no more Aragorn with the stupid 70s hair style! No more Viking Boromir! No more bucktoothed slobbish Samwise! No more Cowardly Lion Balrog! No more Saruman the Red!!! Okay, I'm stopping now.

Now to those of you who liked the movie but never read the book, I hope you're inspired to go and read the book now.

*** END LORD OF THE RINGS SPOILERS ***
Greg Bishansky
Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:16:08 AM
IP: 216.179.1.58

Jan: Well, for now I have very few concrete plans on what we'll be doing while Ravyn's up my way. Mostly it's going to be soaking in an honest-to-God midwest winter (IF IT SNOWS BY THE TIME SHE GETS HERE AND STICKS!!), but we're also planning a couple of get-togethers with FS and LM, and I'm gonna take her around to see a few of the sights. :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 09:54:13 PM
IP: 64.243.208.128

Shadowrider> yes, there was quite of bit hatred for the jewish people prior to the war. For one thing, the Jews were considered to be the wealthy class - which was not a good thing during the depression (Germany experienced the Depression before we did here) and there was a lot of feelings of jealousy and envy. Hitler was a manipulator - as well as many other things - and he knew how to work the German's jealousy against the Jews. Plus, people were not as educated or exposed to the outside world as they are now, so it was easier to control the situation and their minds as well feed upon their fears.
I will look for the book - it sounds like it would be fascinating reading :)

Spacebabie> *L* yeah... that's why when she said that the Twinkie had molded, I was afraid... *shrudders*
She has never been one to maintain a clean room. Drives us all crazy.
She will be stripping her room this weekend so that we can go back in with the baby furniture and start setting everything up. All of the baby things that I've purchased so far are stored in boxes in the garage and it's time to get it all out.
Naw, I don't want to exchange your brother for my son... Michael is a really great young man and polite :) He has never been the "typical" teen - he has always been quiet, tender, considerate and polite. =)
Heh, I like the description that you gave your dad.. frisky ;) I hope that my kids would describe me the same way... *giggles* I know that they call me several things.

Work related: the pyscho from CA wanted me to cut his hair today O_O I told him that when I was finished with my work, I'd do it. Thank goodness the dectective from LA showed up to extradite him back. I did NOT want to cut his hair. (I sometimes do that for some of the inmates) This guy gave me the creeps.
The sheriff and undercover task force broke up a scam ring today :) These guys were "insurance adjusters" and did the prelim work for auto dealers when they would have storm damage. We had a tornado a few weeks ago, so they approached 2 of the largest dealerships here and did the inspections.... they were observed adding additional damage to the vehicles. (They were paid 10% of the total amount of insurance reimbursements) There are legitimate companies that do this - they pre-evaluate the damage and then will negotiate with the insurance companies if they don't pay enough to cover the repair costs. However, these guys were scamming and creating more damage than what the storm had really done. When they went to the Chrysler dealer, they were observed doing the damage by an undercover officer who was pretending to be a worker there at the dealership. Once they cashed the check from the first dealership, they were apprehended and everything was impounded.

We're still receiving Anthrax scare calls. I have learned that Anthrax has a coarse texture to it, like ground up salt or fine sand.

A lady came in with a complaint of being harassed and threatened by a real jerk from Illinios concerning a bad check that was written 4 years ago. I called him myself to give him the fax # for him to send a copy of the check because she didn't know if it was a scam or not and he wanted her to do an electronic check. She didn't remember having a check bounce 4 years ago. He told her that the check was for $191. The guy yelled at me for over 30 mins. and tried to tell me the law concerning bankruptcy judges.
(She had written the check to Venture's and they have since filed bankruptcy) He told her that they would issue a federal warrant for her arrest, etc. I informed him of how the process worked for warrants and he wasn't very happy that I knew that information. A bankruptcy judge rarely issues warrants. Also, the bankruptcy was filed in a different state, the check was written in one county here and she lives in our county now... which means - they would have to file in Newton county and then it would be a Newton Co warrant, IF we ever stopped her for anything and they ran a 29 on her, we would arrest her... Newton would have to extradite her and then wherever the state that originally filed the warrant would have to extradite her to them... all for less than a $200 check. Not gonna' happen.
When he finally agreed to fax a copy of the check, the check amount was actually only $151. He tacked on the extra $40 (but he kept saying that the check was written for $191) plus he was going to charge an additional $25. He claimed to be a Private Investigator and then he was a Fraud Investigator and then he finally admitted to being a collection agent. *rolls eyes* Anyway, her attorney told her to tell him to take a flying leap.
He was such an ass!

DPH> cheese biscuits and pecan pie?? I'll be over for supper! :D
Sure! Hiding behind you is a smart move ;) You aren't going to dump snow on yourself are you?

Josh> congrats on your grades and being finished for the semester =) Don't forget to check on those cards while you're home, ok? :)
Your sleep habits crack me up! *L* I couldn't survive on that type of sleep schedule.

Congrats to everyone else too, btw! Another semester down and only ____ more to go! Remember, this too shall pass.

Stephen> I hope that your foot/ankle heals soon!

Christine> <<we wouldn't presume to ask a lady's age ; ) >> ...and not ask mine either, ok? ;)

Green Baron> you posting in pink is just.... well, it's wrong.

We went to eat at the local pub tonight and ended up with a free meal and free dessert. We waited 45 mins for the meal to arrive and then it was so skimpy, I was embarassed for it. So, the manager apologized for the lengthy wait and gave us the meal for free and then we had our choice of dessert...I had the suicide carrot cake *stomach ache*
The kids then left to go see the opening night of LotR. I'm hoping to see it on Saturday. I haven't read the books and know nothing of the story - but it still looks good :)

Gside> eehgads! I panic when my server shuts down for a few minutes for servicing! I'm not always at the computer, but it's like a security blanket just knowing that it's online. Heh, I took one of those goofy tests and it said I was like 76% addicted to the internet. *blinks and smiles innocently*

Rayvn> wow! *is soooo envious* I'm really glad that you are going to get to spend some time with Coyote :) It's hard being apart, but even harder during the holidays *nods and sais* What all are ya'll planning on doing? well, at least that you can post in a public forum ;) I hope the weather is good for you while you're there.

Speaking of mushy couples... where's Winterwolf and Dreamie? Haven't seen them in a long time.....

Anna went to the doctor yesterday. The baby is in position and she could actually go into labor any day now. Zach is not due until the end of January - but the way she's been feeling and such, I won't be suprised if he's here in a couple of weeks.

Saying bullets cause violence is like saying spoons cause Rosie O'Donnel to be fat.
Jan
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 09:44:28 PM
IP: 12.110.237.19

:: peeks in ::

** SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT **

New in the fanfic archive: "The Lesson" by Madame Destine, a short follow-up to the much talked about Avalon Mists challenge story "Crimes and Punishments" and prequel to "Ripples," the next installment my continuing series (coming very soon).

** END SHAMELESS PLUG **

:: scampers out ::
Madame Destine - [m_destine@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 08:59:20 PM
IP: 66.72.199.47

Netscape 6.2 question: Things I miss from Communicator 4.7:
The task bar envelope and playing notify.wav when I get new mail.
Anyone know how I can get that back?
I read the newsgroups and they have reccomendations for chainging the sound in 6.1 but they don't work in 6.2
From what I can tell, Netscape dosn't allow you to do either. Anyone know if there is a hack to do this?

Gside: <Mmm..., but why put anything on at all just because the earth is between her and the sun?>
My guess would be she is nocturneaphobic.
<With a chisel>
Of course! I had forgotten about that! How silly!
<RUNet 2000. The claim was that they couldn't find anyone to fix it during the weekend>
Ok... on a network full of computer science majors and they couldn't find ANYONE?

Imzadi: <But if you want to go online...you need a base station to connect to your DSL modem.>
THAT'S what I need to figure out. If it is just a frigging network card that can work point-to-point, I should just be able to put one of those in my proxy server, correct?
<We were having an argument a few weeks>
What speed net connection at both ends?
<Um, no, because most of water is Oxygen, which has 8 protons ;-). Any way, my bad>
*WHACK!* THAT'S for being silly!

TGS Discussion: I am sorry, but every time I see "Fallout" in here I think of Vault 13 and Dogmeat

DPH: <Of course not. I was only trying to foil Shadowrider's attempts at hitting with self-propelled snowballs. If you are fast enough, you can narrowly avoid the snowballs falling on you.>
Ah. Easy way to defeat that: Snowball everything!
<there are some things I do take extremely seriously: you don't joke about how you would treat an animal unless it's fairly obvious you're kidding.>
Sorry. I have a fairly dark, twisted and sometimes subtle sense of humor.

Green Baron: 
Ah, but you don't totally reject your sexuality. I mean, look at you! You are attracted to another living being!

Coyote: <Ain't free will a bitch?>
What, are you playing the Devils Advocate now? ;)

Trivia of the Day: (3 since it has been a while)
Sigmund Freud had a morbid fear of ferns
In 1984, a Canadian farmer began renting ad space on his cows
One man robbing a bank in Newport, Rhode Island, shot himself in the head while trying to stuff the stolen money into his shirt pocket. He died instantly
Fire Storm - [<--- Death shall come soon for this website. The time to reap is near.]
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 08:28:50 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Greetings all...

TODD - Had to comment since you gave your viewpoint on the LotR movie...

***WARNING SPOILERS***

For the most part, I am inclinded to disagree on Todd's view that the movie isn't as good as the book. IMO, the movie took the book and brought it vividly and strikingly to life, and in a way that blows the ceiling off what has been done in fantasy films before now! Granted, some liberties were taken that don't fit quite right: I site the inclusion of Arwen as the one that saves Frodo from the Ringwraiths at the river border of Elron's kingdom (I always thought it was more dramatic for Frodo to say to the 'Wraiths "By the Shire...you shall have neither me, NOR the ring!")...and some of the bits with Sauramon in Isengard (the wizards duel, etc) while cool, seemed a bit unneeded...

But, for the most part I thought the film did very well in displaying the FotR story in visiual detail. I especially loved the performances by all the cast - McKellan, Lee, Davies and the rest did fantastic in bringing the characters to live as never before. I also loved the scenes and cinematography work. Pete Jackson did some great work in turning New Zealand into Middle Earth... plus the staging of some of the more memorable scenes from the book (Bilbo's Party, Galadriel's Forest, The Mines of Moria, etc.) are some of the most stunning I've ever seen in fantasy films.

Tied into this all is the scripting, which unlike previous fantasy efforts (i.e. the D&D movie) was as rich as Tolkien's written word. Characters spoke true to form, and the pacing never slackened or got muddled. In fact, if I hadn't checked my watch on my celphone at one point, I'd heve never known I'd been in the theater for nearly two hours.

I also have to make a side comment on how they managed to make some of the moments light-hearted even in the midst of all the action and drama: I site Gimli's comment as the Company races for the bridge to escape the Balrog... "There's no tossing the dwarf 'round here!" (that's not an exact quote, I was laughing too hard at the time).

***SPOLIERS END***

Overall, i feel this film is going to set a new standard for fantasy films in the future. Plus, if Pete Jackson doesn't earn any nods from Oscar in March, then it's going to be the greatest travesty since "Beauty & The Beast" lost the chance to get the Best Picture award...

That's just my opinion, though. ^_^

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 08:01:43 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

***** TGS CR ARCHIVE UPDATE *****

Happy Holidays everyone! :)

The CR archive has been updated to include weeks from December 1st to December 16th for a total of 2 weeks added to the 2001 database. (Click name link.)

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/2001/

***** END TGS CR ARCHIVE UPDATE *****
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Head Admin of TGS CR Information
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 07:55:52 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Just came back from Lord of the Rings. Just a damn good movie. The *only* problem I could find with it was what Todd pointed out, about how Pippen and Merry join Frodo and Sam. But, you know, I can't complain about that.

You don't get much better than that.

Except maybe the upcoming Spider-Man movie.
Alan Coleman Waltrip - [awaltrip@cableone.net]
Odessa/Midland, Texas
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 07:51:11 PM
IP: 24.116.93.43

Saw the LotR movie today. It was pretty good, but I wasn't entirely satisfied with it.

* SPOILERS FOLLOW *

One problem that I did have with it was that there were some liberties taken that didn't strike me as necessary. For example, in the book, Pippin and Merry deliberately join Frodo, setting up a secret "conspiracy" to find out about how he's planning on leaving the Shire and making him bring them along. In the movie, they simply stumble upon him and Sam by accident on Farmer Maggot's land (Farmer Maggot himself not seen) while filching his vegetables.

Also, Gandalf and Saruman's "sorcerous duel" at Isengard seemed unnecessary to me, though some of the other Saruman scenes in the movie were good ones (particularly the dramatization of Saruman uprooting all the trees at Isengard - which was a good scene to include, to me, since it helps prepare for the Ents in "The Two Towers"). And there was some shifting of scenes from one point to another (such as Gandalf and Frodo having their conversation about Bilbo sparing Gollum in Moria, rather than Bag End, as in the book), that seemed likewise pointless to me. And a few other matters that I'll discuss later, if I can.

However, it was visually very impressive, and they did capture the heart of the story - Frodo having to embark upon a quest which he feels himself inadequate to, but nevertheless accepting it and moving forward.

All in all, a pretty good movie - but I still prefer the book.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 07:27:59 PM
IP: 63.183.39.206

My friends ... I have entered the present day in my artwork. Clicky my link for my *first* Photoshopped study of Rosanna colored by me personally. (It's also my FFC entry for December, so I'm looking for feedback, too!) :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 06:53:07 PM
IP: 64.243.214.74

Well not much has been going on. I have been out driving and I drove my dad today to get the staples out. The only problem I have is parking, thats the one area I really need practice in.

6 days till Christmas
5 days til Christmas Eve
2 days till Winter, and til I get to see LOTR.
and Today it opens. I am slightly miffed that the Critic for the Sentinel only gave it four out of five stars but this critic, unlike the other regular one, doesnt like anything. SOOOO It has to be real good.

Replies and stuff.

Christine>>>Was Tim‘s surgery a wisdom extraction or a root canal? I’ve had a root canal, and well the Percadan helped. I hope Becca feels better. I remember getting er aches and they weren’t fun, although I did like the gurgling feeling in my ear when the medicine was doing it’s trick. A SIMS Hogwarts? Kewlies.

Gside<<<And I raped another exam today. Seems they're ordered by increasing difficulty. >>>I like that Term, Raping another exam.

Jan>>I agree with Rayvn about the Twinkie molding….Don’t they have a shelf life of about 40 years? And as Apu once said. “Silly customer you can’t damage a Twinkie,” It just sounds like a science project to me.

Green Baron>>>No it’s a cloth calendar that has days 1-24 and a picture of Santa with a sack. The sack is really a large pocket full of these lil stuffed “toys” and each day is a pocket. You fill the day pockets with the toys as you cont down til Christmas.

Yooper>>>Another Lutheran

Terrky>>>:::Looks at laws::: Naw I think I’ll hang out at the Tea Table of Peace. ::Eats another cookie::: Hey you quoted Styx! Domo Arigato!

Josh<<<I'm done, I'm done. ::does happy dance::>>> Congrats, for that you geta Hershey’s Pot of Gold, Except I’ve eaten a cherry and a caramel, but the rest is yours!

SJ>>>She takes him by the wrist and leads him gently to the Tea Table of Peace:: Rest here. ::She places a cup of hot cocoa in front of him::
Spacebabie
Orlando, FL
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 05:02:47 PM
IP: 65.57.81.10

^_^

silvadel<<With that constitution you have about as much power as the king of england under magna carte.>>

actually, it gives me lots of power. I wrote that whole thing. i made all the rules. you see, before the democracy voted me to be king, they had this thing set up to where someone would be in charge for up to four days, and then someone else comes in. theres no consistancy, and no writen rules. so, i took it upon myself to make all the rules, and write the constitution fairly so that the democracy would vote me in ( i had to do that because they could have not voted, they were still a democracy) and so far, no one has had any complaints, but you know that scarey part... they actually follow those rules! O.O and, i am the only leader, no one else. so there is consistancy.

<>

*sigh* i just have too much time on my hands

DPH: <<Hmm . **DPH disappears from the CR and reappears wearing an antiradiation, antibacterial suit.** Sorry, I can't afford to catch whatever you have>>

it's ok, i'm just utterly insane.

^_^ i hope this earns me a place in the insanity hall of fame! *hands himself a metal of insanity* yay! *hands himself a trophy of insanity* YAY! *gets his name put on a plaque in the insanity hall of fame* YAY x11!

WOOT WOOT! JAVA JIIIIIIIIVE!

"Thier coming to take me away haha! thier coming to take me away HOHO HEEHEE HAHA! to the funny farm, wher life is beutiful all the time, and i'll be happy to see those nice young men, in thier clean white coats, and THIER COMING TO TAKE ME AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!"

-={King Terrky, the Efficient Rock Star]=-

Terrky K - [rock_star_x11@yahoo.com]
Kansas
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 04:53:25 PM
IP: 63.252.223.62

Hi Everyone!

Boy I hope I'm leaving this comment in the right area. I've just this last few months been watching "Gargoyles", it's been broadcast on Disney Channel. Wow, I've been missing out!

The show is wonderful! The characterisation is wonderful! The storylines are wonderful! But further more... THIS SITE IS WONDERFUL!!!

To all those people who have been involved with & supported this...Gargoyles Saga stories & art, thank you very much! Your work is much appreciated, and now very well read and downloaded to print, by yours truly!

I am a traditionally trained animator who is currently learning a animation package, Flash 5. My learning is well underway, and when I have completed this self course (about a months time) I would like to know if there is anything I can do to help concerning The Gargoyle Saga's? I draw well, and animate. Anyhow the offer is there.

Congrate's on such a successful/ professional writing team & Illustration crew.

Mainframe/ Jen
ANIMATOR

Mainframe_mk196ng@Yahoo.co.uk

Mainframe/ Jen - [Mainframe_mk196ng@Yahoo.co.uk]
Milton Keynes, n/a, Britain
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 03:37:04 PM
IP: 213.122.206.244

josh- hey, its ok, i understand, its no problem. it would be fine with me if you want to wait till january to play starcraft. i mean, RL comes first, especially with those of us with lives. ill cya january ;) about the wraiths, yeah i shoulda dropped it. well see how things go sooner or later.

and i dont think that you were talking big, cause you never said that you would own me or anything, in fact you said that you would probobly lose, so i dont see you as a big talker and big runner. dont worry.

terkky- LOL. that is hilarious. btw, i still think you have a life, i just thought it was extremly funny.
NukesGoBoom
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 03:17:40 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

**Iron Chef Clone**
I had a scary thought about what if TLC decided to do an iron chef clone. The person in charge would announce the theme ingredient and the cooks would be allowed to consult recipes from cookbooks. The teams would be given x amount of dollars to go shopping for their ingredients and when they come back, they have to prepare their dishes suing equipment provided by TLC.

Why is that scary? Food poisoning.
**END IRON CHEF CLONE**

Terrky - Hmm . **DPH disappears from the CR and reappears wearing an antiradiation, antibacterial suit.** Sorry, I can't afford to catch whatever you have.

Note: I have never been that self-absorbed. I may have stayed up late solving math problems or working on a computer program,

Imzadi - <<the Bill of Rights only applies to *humans*>>: Actually it only applies to citizens of this country.> I need to reread the Bill of Rights more carefully to see what exactly it does say. I believe it says citizens of the US are people born in the US. <But first: WINTER BREAK! Four and a half weeks of NOTHING.> Doing nothing leads to boredom.

I made cheese biscuits yesterday and another pecan pie.

**BABYLON 5 SPOILERS**
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
**END BABLYON 5 SPOILERS**

**PRETENDER SPOILERS**
Something I just noticed about the new Pretender movie. Jarod and Miss Parker pulled out 2 sets of scrolls from the coffin. Yet, when Mr Parker opened the box containing the scrolls, there was only 1 scroll. I have to wonder about those words Mr Parker said: if those words weren't a reference to what has happenned in the past. Why do I get the feeling there might be a reference to the Holy Grail in the series?
**END PRETENDER SPOILERS**

There is no "I" in team, unless there is a dictator in the team.
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 01:11:53 PM
IP: 204.94.193.62

Actually Josh, I think Terrky has passed having no life and come out the other end... Lunch table king with a long constitution that grants almost no power is somewhere into the anti-life regions... And congrats on your test -- what that says is everyone who took it got that sinking feeling thereafter. I can still remember one college test where all of the smart people ended up in one class and they scaled the other way -- I was livid to get a B for 93 percent.
silvadel
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:00:45 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

**SJ stumbles in dazed**

Midnight screening. Lord of the Rings.

I HAVE SEEN THE FACE OF GOD.

More on this later. When I've regained my sanity, or what passes for it.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 07:54:49 AM
IP: 207.172.11.148

FREEDOM!

I'm done, I'm done. ::does happy dance::

After waking up at 8AM to check my dynamics (I was so nervous about failing that I couldn't sleep last night), I discovered that not only did I not fail, but I got a B-! I saw the clock, realized that it was 8:07, jumped out of bed, popped open my iBook (because I didn't want to wait for my tower to boot up), logged into the site, and checked the grade that I knew was there waiting for me.

That finally allowed me to sleep, now that I no longer had to worry about it. At 1 or so, I woke up "again". I went to the MechE building to pick up a copy of my dynamics final (I got 111/200), and do the CivE building to see how I did on materials (87/100). I'll be getting an A in materials. All that remains is math and stat, and stat I just finished a few hours ago.

Then I went with my friends Ian and Mike to Cheesecake Factory in the city. It was good. We were there for about 3 hours eating lots of food.

So that's it. The semester's over. Next up: Geotech, Project Management, Transportation Engineering, and Structural Engineering.

But first: WINTER BREAK! Four and a half weeks of NOTHING. Well, maybe I'll work a little to get some cash, but that's it.

Ooh and I have to pack too. I'm sure THAT will be fun (NOT).

replies!

Sorow: <<I'm now offically home and I'm loving it>>: Grrrr. <<we like to whisper in the theatre about things they change from the book and the characters and all that detail crap>>: I like to do that to...somehow I always get yelled at.

Kathy: <<So you want a story that deals with the after effects of the 23rd Precinct bombing, and the Gargoyles Task Force, the gargoyles moving back in and burying the hatchet with Xanatos, plus you want to introduce the Quarrymen properly and oh yeah, set up the first threads of the Unseelie? Right. Got it>>: Oh, sure, no problem. "I thought you were gonna give me a lot to write", you said, right?

Ravyn: <<one of these next times that I post here will be actually *with* Coyote>>: Don't do anything *I* wouldn't do! <<Congrats on passing fluids class!>>: Thanks! It just feels good to be done. <>: Well then I guess we're all glad it wasn't YOU singing to Coyote at G2k1. <<Twinkies can actually *mold>>: I didn't know PVC could mold either. <<Sorry, couldn't resist>>: You could, you just chose not to.

Greg X: <<apparantly I did not follow the guidelines correctly, neither did a large percentage of the class>>: I hate it when that happens. Like the guidelines are so important anyway. No one ever got credit for thinking INSIDE the box. <<Hope the payoff was worth it>>: Oh indeed. Good arc. <<the Bill of Rights only applies to *humans*>>: Actually it only applies to citizens of this country. Whether or not it applies to the rest of the world is up to the Geneva Convention. <<where's SJ and his comments on current events?>>: He's probably busy doing something only slightly less important than posting. <<the fact that you go out of your way to laugh at something so stupid and insignificant>>: Thank you. I found it rather amusing myself.

Siryn: <<Umm I don't know? My lame attempt at being cute>>: Ah, I see. <>: Us too. And despite what certain elements might say to the contrary, it is possible to please everyone all of the time. <<why not give that favourite garg or goyle of yours a registration to the gathering>>: Easily done. Now where do I get the $$ to buy my favorite garg (me) a plane ticket? ;-) <<Early bird registration of $35 (which includes a free banquet meal>>: Does "not early bird" registration include the free banquet meal also? <>: Money, the ultimate excuse. <<If you have EVER been to a gathering, had an awesome costume>>: I was an undercover cop. My costume was so good that no one could tell! <<not needed, but it would REALLY be nice if you told us!>>: That sounds suspiciously directed.

DPH: <<No necessarily wierd, but different>>: I'd say weird. <<you don't joke about how you would treat an animal unless it's fairly obvious you're kidding>>: I"M KIDDING. There, was that obvious enough?

Green Baron: <<infamous three-piece suits>>: Infamous because you look slick in them or infamous because they're hideous? <<The third one is pink basically as a hopeful sign of coming>>: That sounds dirty. <>: He's a firestarter, twisted firestarter. <<Attila is dead and I've been tamed>>: Note to self: never be tamed. <<Whatever you feel about Jen, it's between you and her. Greg ahs no part in this>>: The phrase "the friend of my enemy is my enemy" comes to mind. <>: How do you know that if you have no idea what he thinks of you in the first place? <<Perhaps you should change yourmajor or just drop everything, move down to Berkely and room with Imzadi>>: I don't think she wants to do that. But it'd be nice to have a genuine hot chick within 50 miles of campus. Especially if she were living with me. <<plus its safer>>: Plus it's boring. <>: What is this word "commit". <<But she has an affinity for cats>>: That's nice. <<Rabid gerbils are much nastier, though>>: WRONG. <<I'm basically normal although sexually repressed>>: Then you're not normal. <<not many 24 year olds are still virgins>>: And those that are are NOT normal. Or wish they weren't. <>: Truly a great game.

Daphne: <>: Really now? Does your b/f know about this? <<ooh, that was worded poorly>>: I disagree. It was quite funny. <<you would really come in handy for this task>>: I'm a engineer, not a maytag repairman.

Ed: Good review

Nukes: The worst part of posting to you is that in what is going to be interpreted as me "talking big and not showing up", I have to cancel our date tomorrow. We've decided to leave tomorrow night instead of thursday, which means I need tomorrow to pack and clean the apartment. Sorry. Maybe in January. <<they had a good time laughing too>>: Whatever. I've seen it work plenty of times. <<to get 200 wraiths, you have to kill off all of your workers>>: It was a slight exaggeration. With 6 or 8 starports, several groups of wraiths are produced quite quickly. Much quicker than your valks or devourers. And the trick is to attack INTELLIGENTLY. Take out your missle turrets that detect my cloaked wraiths, and your starports that produce valks. 72 or so wraiths will do quite a bit of damage. And valks do fine against BC's too, so why are BC's any more valid of a strategy than wraiths? Believe it or not, I've been playing for a long time, I know the units and the strategies. You aren't going to show me or tell me anything I don't already know. <<take a look at what daphne said. seems that there ARE _multiple_ women who think you are cute>>: Daphne doesn't count, she's taken. We've been over this. <<stop making fun of me>>: Its really hard when you're trying to make me look stupid over something as inane as starcraft. <<then explain why YOU are laughing at me for laughing st something "so stupid and insignificant.>>: Its not irony, he's mocking you for making a big deal out of it.

Yooper: <>: I'm jealous. I wish that happened for me. But no, I had to have them all spread out. At least with your method you're done before you can breathe.

Taleweaver: <>: I am SO glad I turned down the offer to join TGS staff.

The Wizard: <<If you say three inches, you get a foot>>: Many people wish they could do that. <>: For now. <<not much of the stuff in there interests me>>: I know the feeling. <<some people get the edible kind and just eat it>>: Isn't that the point? <<You could do that with a frayed wire, a short, and black-out curtains>>: I've got one of those things... <<These ones are so cold, they sting>>: ::melts:: <<there are at least plenty of short brunettes in the world>>: I know. And while every other male is occupied with tall blondes, I get away with the cuties. <>: Why would he want one? <<** blinks **>>: Don't ask. I don't.

Terrky: <>: Okay, you officially have no life.

Silvadel: <<you have about as much power as the king of england under magna carte>>: I think you're being generous.

SOROW: <<No thanks. I'm very happy in Austin right now>>: Ah, but you don't know what you're missing.

Gside: <<that test raped me a bit>>: How can you be raped a bit? <<He meant what percent of Windows programs does it run without major problems>>: I've only encountered one: MATLAB 6.0 student edition. The pro edition runs fine. <<With a chisel>>: And a microscope. <<Is it burning>>: Not at last check. <<I'll probably save a bunch of fics to discs, and do some gaming>>: Sorry dude. <<Better than what happened today>>: Yeah, I'd rather have papercuts than fail a final too. <>: Best be careful, on the wrong day I can be quite sensitive about such things.

Okay, time to pack and then go to sleep so I can go home tomorrow.

Look at me! I'm talking to treif!
-Uncle George, Duckman

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 04:27:25 AM
IP: 64.161.27.1

**Yggdrasil stumbles into the CR with a glazed expression on his face**

It is now 2:10AM.

I have just spent an indescribable 3hr and 7min at an advance screening of Fellowship of the Ring. All I can say is GO SEE THIS MOVIE. I will not lie and say all of my hopes were realized...but it was close enough. This movie is a true work of art.

**Minor Spoiler**
I just have to say one other thing.

There has been a great deal of debate over the years on many aspects of Tolkein's work. I can now say that I truly believe that the Balrog has wings!

**End Spoilers**
Yggdrasil - [eng050599@hotmail.com]
Ontario, Canada
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 02:09:15 AM
IP: 24.102.228.58

Gside: Don't have a wireframe that would accommodate a fedora, sadly. Though I plan to do as many Watchmen skins as I can ... Comedian was just the first. (I have plans to do Dr. Manhattan, Silk Spectre 2 and Rorschach's civilian identity of Walter Kovacs.)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 01:23:49 AM
IP: 64.243.214.56

Well, that test raped me a bit (!$@# Zener shunt regulators), but I'm free until friday when I'll probably get raped again.

Imzadi> <<Half on tuesday>>: Half yesterday and half tomorrow, but never half today.
<<The latest version of VPC (5) runs in both OS 9 and OS X>>: He meant what percent of Windows programs does it run without major problems.

Fire Storm> <<How can you split HYDROGEN?>>: With a chisel.
<<Who were the sickos that did that to you?>>: RUNet 2000. The claim was that they couldn't find anyone to fix it during the weekend.

Imzadi> <<Siofra is busy with a mouse in her room>>: Is it burning?
<<How do you plan to survive?>>: I'll probably save a bunch of fics to discs, and do some gaming.
<<Kinky. Didn't you get a mess of papercuts?>>: Better than what happened today.

Niamhgold> <>: And so do a few people here. You know you passed rather close to me.
<<Have you killed anyone yet?>>: Do DII enemies count? I now have four characters at or beyond act III.
<<With someone in the state _with_ a connection (and a decent one), I can only chuckle>>: But I'll be spending my time in the other side of the state. Plus, it'll be at my grandparents, and there's no way they'd get a connection.
<<** blinks **>>: Don't worry, I make a hobby of false accusations of homosexuality. Half usually of myself.

CtB> <<So I settled for doing the Comedian from "Watchmen" as a skin>>: No Rorschasch? I just lack a fedora and white silk scarf and I have a passable costume.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:41:45 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

GB> No thanks. I'm very happy in Austin right now. :)
SOROW
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:33:10 AM
IP: 209.254.213.188

Terrky -- With that constitution you have about as much power as the king of england under magna carte.
silvadel
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:30:13 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

hey everyone. not much to say today. i am the KING of my lunch table. yep, and i even wrote a constitution for it. its really kind of a monarchy/democracy.

TERRKY'S CONSTITUTION:

1. Terrky is the king. Do not talk while he is talking- it is rude. (only when he is making a Speech)

2.Terrky appoints various duties to specific people who he sees as fit to fulfill that job. You must comply to this, otherwise the majority can vote you off for one day.

3. Anyone from another table may seek refuge in our table- and is thereby a temporary citizen, and has the right to vote. They may become a permanent citizen by staying at the table 3 or more days in a row.

4. The majority of the vote rules. The king cannot change this, but you cannot vote Terrky off the monarchy. (unless unanimously voted upon)

5. No seat stealing. This is a crime. If you steal a seat, and do not give it up after that person has returned, you will be put on probation for one day beginning the next lunch period. This punishment can and\or will be extended depending on the offense. Only the majority can decide if the crime is serious enough to extend the punishment, but only with Terrky’s permission. If someone has stolen your seat, you may plead the fifth, and the king will handle the situation constitutionally.

6. In order to be appointed to a high position, i.e. temporary replacement king (should Terrky be unable to perform is duty as king that day) Chief advisor, or military leader, you must have 2nd lunch on both purple and gold days.

7. If you feel that a law is unfair and\or unjust, you may speak with the chief advisor, and he/she will discuss it with the king if it should be changed. Terrky has the final say after the vote. But if your complained has been dismissed, you may put together a petition IN WRITING, signed by the majority of the table, and presented to the king, he may reconsider his previous decision, if it is constitutional.

8. If there is an issue (not a law) that you feel should be voted on, you may present it to the king IN WRITING, and there will be a vote, only if it is constitutional. If the issue is too big to be presented in writing, and must be voted upon then, you can speak directly to the Advisor about it, but don’t make a habit of it. NOTE: the king does not need to present petitions to himself for a vote, he can bring up the issue in the middle of lunch he feels it necessary.

9. As the new kingdom begins, all of your records will be wiped clean. All records from the previous kingdom will not apply to ours’.

10. If some unfortunate person has no lunch that day, as happy helping citizens, we are ALL required to donate at least one crumb of our lunch to the unfortunate person. WARNING: this is not a welfare, if it happens too often, the majority can decide if they should donate crumbs that day or not.

11. The king can amend the constitution at anytime. (see the 7th amendment if you are not happy with this, and the king may edit the new rule if it is constitutional)

PROBATION LAWS:: if you are put on probation, your punishment will usually last one day (unless otherwise decided upon) you don’t usually have to leave the table, but the majority can vote you off for a period of time that they choose, but the king can deny that vote if it is unconstitutional. If you are on probation, you cannot vote for that day(s). If you are on probation for three consecutive days, you will be thrown in a metaphorical trash can, and loose your vote for up to one week.

*watches everyone begin to make replies talking about how stupid that is* hey, so i've got too much time on my hands! believe it or not, this has been a big issue at our lunch table. so we've ALL got too much time on our hands. everyone voted for me to be king cause my constitution is soo awesome! ;) blah. i still know i'm gonna hear how dumb that is.

anyway, see yall

"is it any wonder i've got too much time on my hands?"- Styx

-={Terrky the Efficient Rock Star}=-

Terrky K - [rock_star_x11@yahoo.com]
Kansas
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:49:19 PM
IP: 63.252.224.212

From the makers of "Where am I?" and the director of "Dude! This new ISP RULES!" comes:
"IP CHECK!"
Fire Storm
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:45:23 PM
IP: 216.254.103.115

Josh> Of course Apple would never use it. It just goes to promote Mac usage in a more comical fashion. Though that was mostly Chris's idea, I've had 3 other really-stupid-but-funny Apple commercial ideas for sometime that I hope to put into production someday maybe after I purchase a nice DV camcorder. It would great to perhaps submit them to MacAddict and have them published on their disc. Just a hopeful thought. Glad you liked it though.
Jim R.
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:31:33 PM
IP: 65.164.17.148

**looks up at the mistletoe, then at Ravyn** Like we need an excuse? ;) **plants a liplock on her similar to the one in the Bill Plympton Christmas Special last week** :)

GB: Ain't free will a bitch? ;) Seriously, though ... fireworks indoors?! ;)

Unfortunately, I discovered through my skin search that someone *already* did most of the EVA cast. So I settled for doing the Comedian from "Watchmen" as a skin ... his body looks like crap but his head looks *really* good, right down to the big ol' sneer scar. :)

**huggles Ravyn tight** 11 days!! :)
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:30:40 PM
IP: 64.243.208.144

** Niamhgold enters **

I'm going to skip the little snowball fights in here...unless you want a really big, basket-ball sized one lobbed at you. Yes, it snowed, a lot. What can I say? If you say three inches, you get a foot. I'd forgotten how fun it was to skid out in the snow, though...good, old streetcorners. ;)

Waiting (im)patiently for grades to be released on Friday. Then, the plans are to take slides of my work for scholarships, get this MWHotel project finished for a bonus, and do Christmas shopping :) Then, on with winter break!!!!

I'll probably go to the theater on Friday to see LOtR. It'll be interesting without any friends around, but I'm sure the movie will be eye candy enough. :)

All right, replies:

Wilek: <Very hot indeed. :P> Okay, that just earned you a venomous breed of mistletoe mutants ;)

Daddy: <Long time no see> Actually, I believe it's no time no see. <Although quite funny> Let's hope the professor thought so. And maybe Marian, too. <If it puts you through LA, you hit traffic> I used to think that about the Jersey turnpike...but, lo and behold, I found a miracle! <<<I'm so happy I could spit>>: ?> I really don't know. When I took my roommate's plant home for the holidays, it had a sign that gave directions for its care and that quote at the bottom. And now my brother's saying it nonstop. <That long? Sheesh, you have less free time than me> I don't know...not much of the stuff in there interests me. I've read through synopses...and, well, I'm just not intrigued. <...how would one eat with underware> True...some people get the edible kind and just eat it, period ;) <I'm too frikkin' cold in Berkeley to donate my warm clothes> Yes, but where I've grown up, you tend to have accumulated multiples. <It must be mine. Someday> :) <For all that math you do in art class... > OR all the math I do on my own ;) <I'd like to set my apartment ablaze, then it'd be warm> You could do that with a frayed wire, a short, and black-out curtains. <Kindly do not die on us> I'll try. No promises, though. <Fortunately, the shear warmth of Los Angeles that hangs about me melts all snowballs before they can hit> You'd be surprised... :: pelts :: These ones are so cold, they sting ;) <No feminists> :: shudders at the thought :: But there are at least plenty of short brunettes in the world.

Shadowrider: Heh...wait until you meet my personal band of mercenaries! Bwahahahahaha! <How was your portfolio review?> It actually went surprisingly well (IMO...I won't know the grade until friday). Just dress sharply, be prompt, have the materials presented professionally, and good work to show...now I hope he at least noticed my efforts. <What's your preferences, pal? Blondes, brunettes, romantics, femminists, tall, short? We got for all tastes...> I don't suppose you have a book of males for sale? ;)

Gside: <It was a horrible, horrible experience> I'll bet! Have you killed anyone yet? <but I'm going to be spending Christmas in New Hampshire, with no connection in sight.> Wow, that stinks. With someone in the state _with_ a connection (and a decent one), I can only chuckle. Have fun in the snow ;) :: pelts :: <You have no idea how much> ** blinks **

Okay, folks, that's all for now...
Hmmm...I wonder where Lynati went?
Adios
Niamhgold
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 09:19:56 PM
IP: 208.197.116.159

bishansky- <<Funny, I had a few friends over and I showed them this comment and we all had a good time laughing at the fact that you go out of your way to laugh at something so stupid and insignificant. >>

uh, then explain why YOU are laughing at me for laughing st something "so stupid and insignificant."

i just _had_ to point out the irony there. but, nevermind, i just remembered that i dont care.
NukesGoBoom
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 08:47:11 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

TGS Rambles > Let's see what I can remember here. I think it was December of 1996 the first stirrings of TGS got started over in the Station Eight comment room. So that would make it five years ago, during my last year of college that I got involved. I'm quite sure I didn't even know what I was getting into at the time. My experience with fanfic up until that point had only been with reading it... so kathy definitely was a few steps ahead of me there. I ended up signing on to work mostly in edits - where I could put my talent for being a nitpicking perfectionist to work - and I also decided to try my hand at co-authoring a story or two for the first season. The writing was fun... the editting part the first season was pretty much chaos. I still bet a lot of people don't realize there were many times I sat up until nearly 2 AM in a chat room with authors pulling off what I came to call the "Nick of Time (TM)" episode release. All so people could find their weekly dose of TGS in the morning right on schedule. Man, what a nightmare.

So when season two started up, I became head of edits officially, and got a nice title to go with the job I'd already been doing since about midway through season one. And we also got thing streamlined a bit more so that sometimes we were actually running two to three weeks ahead of "airdate" with the finished stories. I also wrote quite a bit more in season two. But I think what really started to burn me out by the time season two was wrapping up - aside from my frustrations with G99, which is another long ramble entirely - was all the internal politics. Simply put, it's not always easy to work in a big group... and writing by committee especially has its inherent problems. If it wasn't missed deadlines or heads butting over S&P (Standards and Practices), it was something else equally aggravating. And after I graduated and took on a full time job, spending all my weekends editting stories just got to be a not fun situation, too.

So the end of season two was when my term in TGS ended. Two seasons, but I think the actual work had ended up spanning a little over two and a half years of real life time. April or May of 1999 was when I retired. Of course, I didn't retire from fanfic writing. In fact, some might say being free of the strict ratings and guidelines of TGS has allowed me to really spread my wings. ;)
And there's my ramble, for what it's worth. TGS was a lot of fun, but it was also a lot of work. And I don't think I would ever get involved in another project like that again, just because of the time commitment that's involved. That's the best piece of advice I can give anyone who's thinking about getting into TGS or any similar kind of online project. Make sure you're prepared to invest the time. Because if you aren't, you're going to make yourself miserable, and you're just going to end up causing a lot of headaches for other people, too.
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 07:52:02 PM
IP: 66.72.198.70

Greg [and all]: that was an amusing The Onion....but my favorite is probably this: http://www.theonion.com/onion3630/dolphins_evolve_thumbs.html

Rodlox
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 07:40:01 PM
IP: 24.3.26.209

BISHANSKY - Yep, I'm also eagerly awaiting the movie tomorrow. (I hope that I can see it tomorrow; I didn't have any problems getting into the "Harry Potter" movie on its opening day last month, so maybe it'll be the same with "Lord of the Rings", but I'm keeping my fingers crossed).

ED - Um, I don't recall making any actual ramble on "Fallout" - only Kathy did that, as far as I can tell. (The closest that I got was commenting on the Castaway/Canmore business in "Goliath Chronicles").
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 07:33:13 PM
IP: 168.191.109.137

Howdy,

I'm glad we got some chatter going. It has jogged some memories from wayback then. I think I joined the group only a couple of weeks before the "Fallout" aired. I remember there was some discussion of whether to use all the Goliath Chronicles or just Journey. Me, I just kept me head down and tried to catch up.

I think of "Fallout" as an establishing shot. True not much happens with our main characters but I liked the city's reaction. NYC can be a compelling character at times. I thought this was more to include it in the storyline.

I do remembered the fevered pace things were going at, because not only were we trying to crank out TGS, but we had to get Timedancer, Dark Ages and Pendragon up and running too.
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 07:05:52 PM
IP: 134.71.41.95

Kathy and other Ramblers... woo hoo!!! Finally some talk about the TGS from the beginning and all. *^_^* -- that's the stuff I first came to the comment room hoping to find. I love hearing this kind of stuff, the behind the scenes of how it all came together and the thoughts of people on the stories themselves.

whee!!!

The only thing that would make today better is some sushi. mmm... unfortunately I just had my dinner bowl of ramen noodles... sigh. I think I'm even out of tuna =(

Oh well, back to the art board. Finally got some picture references to school girl uniforms. You'd think there would be catalogues or something on-line, O_o... but I had to dig into ecchi manga for references. Oh well, now I see how the pleats work.

later
Mooncat
Mooncat
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 06:03:55 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Ahhh, exam week. How we missed thee.

I only have two exams this week, and both are on the same day. Back-to-back as a matter of fact. As much as I like that economy of time, it'd be nice to have a few hours to look over my History of Europe before the exam. And while I'm at it, I'd rather not have this exam cycle start at 7:45am, so I could look over my Hydrology for a few hours too. I kicked ass on the first two hydrology and got B's on the history, but I'm still nervous about these. Oh well

Green Baron>><<Are you Catholic?>> Nope. Evangelical Lutheran.

Off to study!!
Yooper - [jwprusi@up.net]
MI
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 06:00:12 PM
IP: 141.219.84.191

NUKES> <<josh- i accept other stratagies. but i laugh my ass off when i see your comment about wraiths. in fact, i told most of the people that play bw at my school, and they had a good time laughing too>> Funny, I had a few friends over and I showed them this comment and we all had a good time laughing at the fact that you go out of your way to laugh at something so stupid and insignificant.
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 05:56:18 PM
IP: 216.179.2.42

josh- sorry i ment "100" wraiths. i was thinking of the supply they would cost, not the number you mentioned. stop making fun of me...
Anonymous
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 05:15:04 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

green baron- i dont understand all the "nukes go boom" jokes you made. its prolly something i didnt read in the cr, but would you mind telling me what you mean by that? dont keep it an inside joke! ;)
NukesGoBoom
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 05:13:43 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

josh- i accept other stratagies. but i laugh my ass off when i see your comment about wraiths. in fact, i told most of the people that play bw at my school, and they had a good time laughing too.

besides, to get 200 wraiths, you have to kill off all of your workers. yeah, thats a great idea! besides, i know _just_ what to do with wraiths ;) damn.. cant keep the suspense.. they are called VALKYRIES!!! complete and total ownage against "200" wraiths. or corairs (the nuetron flare is splash damage, believe it or not.) or devourers (acid spores slow down the wraiths and crack thier armor, they dont actually kill them, another unit would to that with great ease. each spore adds 1 damage to ANY attack done to a unit.)

oh, if you havnt alredy , take a look at what daphne said. seems that there ARE _multiple_ women who think you are cute.

cya on battle.net time/day? ;)
NukesGoBoom
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 05:04:23 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

GREEN BARON> No, no, no, no, no. I like Greg Weisman a lot. I've met him at three Gatherings and think he's a great guy. You've misread my comment.
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 03:54:52 PM
IP: 216.179.2.247

GARGOYLES Season 1 Comments:
‘FALLOUT’ PART ONE

I really like the idea of looking at ‘rerun’ stories in between new episodes. Especially since it’s been so long that I’ve read many of these season 1 episodes that they’re as new to me. Thanks for starting the discussion, Taleweaver.

As for ‘FALLOUT’, it was an episode that I hadn’t really remembered in either a particularly positive or negative light – and my opinion hasn’t really changed much. I enjoyed reading it and it conveyed the characters well with the sole exception of Hudson’s discussion with Goliath on patrol; compare his attitude here with ‘THE JOURNEY’ (‘the city’s a tinderbox, lad! If you’re spotted, it could go up in flames!’). The artwork is also fantastic.

I also have this sneaking feeling that although the episode is interesting, it doesn’t really do a great deal. We have Elisa mulling over the news, Peter mulling over the news, Matt mulling over the news, Matt and Elisa getting nothing from Robyn, Owen avoiding talking about the news, the new facilities for the gargoyles, Goliath mulling over the news, and Canmore becoming Castaway. My summary is exaggerated, but compare this to ‘THE JOURNEY’ in the constraints of a twenty-minute time slot whizzes through all the characters, portrays humorously the public opinions of experts (Macbeth), the law (Margot), the people (the Jogger, Billy and Susan’s mum), and the vigilantes (Vinne and Castaway). It also in a short space of time established Broadway and Angela’s relationship, Brooklyn’s non-relationship with Angela, Lex’s relations with Alex and Fox, the nature and purpose of the Quarrymen, etc. Granted, it doesn’t link Castaway to the Illuminati or Madoc, establish Robyn’s whereabouts, or have some of the precise character details; but none of these seem pressing enough to reveal before ‘THE JOURNEY’. I don’t really understand why the decision was made to do an episode 65.5. (Or for that matter, why it was in a 2-part story; it stands well enough on its own).

The Castaway material is all that really needs to come here and it’s well managed, but I don’t really see why it should have been managed at all so early on. I guess that at the time of writing the fact that Castaway and Canmore were the same person was probably fairly common knowledge on the web, but dramatically it made much more sense for the revelation of Castaway’s identity to come later in the series – if not in ‘TURNCOAT’, then certainly in the intervening episodes. TGC was flawed because it failed to make the link at all, but TGS tipped its hand here before the game had even started!

For an episode dealing with fallout, there’s a lot that isn’t touched. Granted, it’s only the first of two parts but the effect on normal people is hardly alluded to; it’s the media reaction in the papers and the television that is brought out chiefly. Jon’s decision here is not so clearly fallout from ‘HUNTER’S MOON’ as the decision of an organisation (two perhaps) that had no connection to the incident. Robyn’s interview is purely procedural: actual consequences of her actions are pretty much skirted around. The gargoyles are conspicuous by their absence for the majority of the story, and when they are it’s broadly their reactions to the new suite.

Having said all that, it is for the most part gorgeously written. The coffee shop scene stands out: it’s interesting, flowing and has genuine character interaction. I’m a little uneasy at Morgan’s peer relationship with Peter (‘one overprotective father to another’) as it seemed that he was far closer to Elisa’s age group, but it’s still a great scene. Only problem is, nothing really comes of it. The biggest plot point is probably Elisa gets – and unsurprisingly rejects out of hand – a request to leave New York.

This is pretty much the story of the episode: it doesn’t do a lot that’s new, but does it in a very entertaining fashion nevertheless. It’s what makes ‘THE JOURNEY’ stand out for me as an outstanding season debut, and ‘FALLOUT’ PART ONE as an average one.

Incidentally, thanks to Todd and Kathy for their rambles. It was interesting reading, especially on how the TGS writing staff is organised.
Ed - [ed.reynolds@virgin.net]
London, England
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 03:20:15 PM
IP: 172.191.89.248

I'm going home today!

josh>> I could use your hot body right now. ummm.... ooh, that was worded poorly. What I mean is, I have to defrost my fridge before I can leave, the freezer is a solid brick of ice, and if you can vaporize snowballs, you would really come in handy for this task! :)

Green Baron>> do you post in pink the third week? wait, this *is* the third week, isn't it?

not too much else goign on. as far as I can tell, I survived finals (although latin remains to be seen).

God bless, and happy holidays

Daphne
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 03:15:02 PM
IP: 129.68.138.125

Forget one thing. Two more days till I see Heather..Woohoo!! Yay!!!
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Pioneer Kasserne, Germany
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 03:06:21 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

Greetings all. I wish I coudl post more often and I will, for on Thursday I am back in the states for a week with Heather. Tommorrow I have the day off from work and I'm getting ready for it. I'll finish up my packing and then just wait till Thrsday morning when I don one of my infamous three-piece suits and board the plane for America. I should arrive in Atlanta by 4pm EST. Expect an e-mail form me after I post, Kathy.

Spacebabie> I thought you might. It seems to be as much an instution in Germany as turkey in nOvember is in America, plus I'm in the Lutheran part of Germany so I figured that you as a Lutheran would celebrate Advent. Do you have a wreath with four candles, too? I have oen with three purple candles and a pink one. They represent each week of Advent. The third one is pink basically as a hopeful sign of coming.

Nukes> I lived in New Orlenas before I joined the ARMY. With the anal rape that auto insurance is down there, i wouldn't drive till I was 25 at minimum and only if I had a family and the occasional need for a POV. The $55.00 a month that it costs to use Orleans Parish transit si much cheaper than insurance alone which exceed 100 a month for a used car with only liability insurance if driven by a male under 25.

As for other comments, I guess you really are going boom with those nukes :)

Mistletoe> Not this year. Attila is dead and I've been tamed.

SJ <>
You have angered the ghost of Reverend Attila :) Paul Nathans was his sworn enemy next to Hillary Clinton.

I do agree with Crzy about your opinions on Greg W. I've met him and I personally like him. I don't understand your dislike for him. Whatever you feel about Jen, it's between you and her. Greg ahs no part in this. I imagine if you met him or some others your opinions would be altered. I don't know what you think of me, though if you meet me, your perceptions will be changed immensely.

SOROW> Perhaps you should change yourmajor or just drop everything, move down to Berkely and room with Imzadi.

Imzadi> I post in purple only for Advent and later Lent. <<Really? Well I consider that statement to be full of flaws. Like how about the fact that everyone in a big city can't FIT on the public transportation system, no matter how good it is.>> Perhaps or the increased demand will cause fo rmore buses to be built and busses arriving at locations more frequently, or maybe not. I still encourage the use of mass transit and have a love of it,a nd I think God I was born in a city.

<<I'm sorry.>> Why? It is my choice, plus its safer. Besides, I could never imagine committing myself sexually to more than one woamn throughout my lifetime.

<<Given Mooncat's paranoia, I highly doubt that.>> But she has an affinity for cats.

<<If you can't figure out how to profit from a money-laundering scheme, then how on earth are you working for finance?>> I mostly learned about pozi schemes, not money laundering :)

Cherry> ::hugs:: I haven't seen you in ages. I hope you post more often.

SJ <<On a Galvie related issue, I think something is wrong with me, because despite my ideological differences with him, my respect for Aris is actually growing. Who would have thought that would ever happen? This brave new world we live in is one hell of a frightening place.>> Why shouldn't that happen? Its good to know that Jewel's friends won't all kill each other if they meet at one place. Ona side note, SJ. I e-maield Jewel and I got a message saying her e-mail doesn't exist. I'll try calling again, but I'm a littel worried. i was hoping I could visit her this upcoming holiday, but if I can't contact her, I won't be able to.

Christine> I feel guilty about not having read AvMistss in some time. I enjoy your writings, but it is time to pass on the reins as it was handed to you. It's been four years after all, or three.

Greg B> <<It's probably nothing, just something he does to try to get under your skin>> You dislike him, too? Granted if not for him you'd be the only Greg in Jen's life, but I'm a little surprised you said that.

<<Actually yeah>> I did repeat myself with those names. How foolish.

<<I'd feel safer with myself as one of the representatives of human kind rather than say, Barbara Streisand or Justice Scalia.>> That's balanced to single them out, though I think Scalia is much better than the likes of Brennan or Douglas. That guy was on serious crack.

Lynati> <<See? It is not just a school thing; it in fact has value in real-life. : )>> Yep, plus you can also get fired in the civilian world, but carrying a clock with you is rather amusing :)

Crzy> I haven't formed opinions about global warming, but I suspect a lot of it is cyclical, though we could watch our own wastefulness. I also know that volcanic eruptions and natural stuff leads to a lot of pollution and realese of CFCs. I'm not a scientist so I won't say. The weather here in Germany makes me want some global warming.

Entity> I'm certain some fundamentalist out there will probably attack it for being about fanatsy and because it was written by a Catholic. I imagine teh lack of negative reviews is because it si superioir to teh usual stuff cranke dout, but I bet it won't be as good as the book, but what is?

Aaron> <<IF you'd like to email me a synopsis of, from your own POV is happening, feel free. In the meantime, quit acting like a bag of rabid hamsters.>> Rabid gerbils are much nastier, though :)

Yooper> I'm impressed that you knew that about the Liturgical Calendar. Are you Catholic? Advent is followed by Christmas which is twelve days ending with the Epiphany when the Magi arrive. Ordinary time starts after that with teh celebration of Jesus' baptism. Thsi period of Ordinary Time is also knwon as Parade Season in my native New Orleans :) Lent follows to be repalced by Easter and teh Triduum concluding Lent. Then comes Pentecost, Ordinary Time, and back to Advent. It's amazing what I remember from Religion class :)

Nukes> <<- yes, xenogears was a GREAT game for its time. also a very long one>> That nuke really went boom!! Remember the talk of Paul Nathans to get the joke there.

Gside/Firestorm> I spent my whole life in Catholic school and I'm basically normal although sexually repressed, but not many 24 year olds are still virgins.

Coyote> Heather lent me her copy of teh Sims. I loved that game, though soemtimes teh Sims would not do what I wwant so I had them shoot off fireworks in rooms after I deleted all doors :)

I also recommend Tropico.

Gside> If that annoying poster arrived again, the ghost of Attila would return to attack his old nemesis.

Jesus' birth> 2 years before the death of Herod. I think that was 6 BC, but the calendars were off back then.

Daphne> I remember learning that about the Twelve Days, too. Bloody English!!

Greg B again> <<J. Michael Straczynski is an Atheist btw.>> SJ mentioend that, though he uses religion in his show quite well and impartially. I think he was raised Catholic since he makes some allusions to it, like Sinclair being taught by Jesuits and soem show I saw about the great burn reminded me of a really neat Catholic sci-fi book A Canticle for Leibowitz.

I'm off again. Good night to all.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Pioneer Kasserne, Germany
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 03:05:53 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

DPH> <> Actually they're not. What happened there was that when Sinclair was scanned by the Triluminary and they confirmed that he had a Minbari soul, it was because he was Valen. Fated to go back in time and become Valen... like the Archmage loop in "Avalon Part 2", and Valen had children who in turn had children so their was human DNA in Minbari people. That's what was really going on. Nothing to do with souls. J. Michael Straczynski is an Atheist btw.
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 01:28:25 PM
IP: 167.206.248.14

(ack..also include a photo of your costume, or I can't put it up! ^_^;;)
Siryn - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 01:28:18 PM
IP: 129.21.230.184

Ack! One more thing I just remembered!

There are sections (although blank right now ^_^;;) on the site with gargoyle character costume ideas for the masqurade. :) If you have EVER been to a gathering, had an awesome costume, and you would like to have it shown on site, please email me personally at siryn7@aol.com. please put the name 'costume idea' in the title. Include a description of what character you went as, which convention, how to make the costume(not needed, but it would REALLY be nice if you told us!), and your feelings about it.

If you are going to send multiple image files, please zip them first! <:)

THis is basically to encourage people about being creative with their costumes and give ideas to people. And not just gargoyles or faye, I remember someone went as the NEw York jogger in 97! And I know Batya went as a person in stone from 'City of stone'. Creative ideas are encouraged! (and you get to show off awesome old costumes!) Even if you say..just went as Elisa Maza *pokes Gorebash* ;)

If you have a how-to site already and would prefer that I just link to that, that is alright as well. ^_^

(okay, definately all from me today. ^_^;;)
Siryn - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 01:27:29 PM
IP: 129.21.230.184

Fire Storm - <are you Hexadecimal?> Of course not. I was only trying to foil Shadowrider's attempts at hitting with self-propelled snowballs. If you are fast enough, you can narrowly avoid the snowballs falling on you.

Yes, I am . . different. No necessarily wierd, but different.

GXB - <Hey Santa, since you see and know everything, give the world a gift and tell us where Osama bin Laden is?> Good point. <Well Mr Arafat, since you're still alive, I don't think Israel is trying very hard to kill terrorists. But you want to live, stop lying and be a part of the solution rather than a part of the problem.> I am glad the president is finally doing something about address the inequities between Arafat's promises and actions.

Fire Storm & Imzadi - there are some things I do take extremely seriously: you don't joke about how you would treat an animal unless it's fairly obvious you're kidding.

After rereading Fallout Part 1, nothing particular stuck out at me except that somebody was continuing Gargoyles and I couldn't wait for the next story to be published.

I have decided to explore a new question: Since yahoo claims "Trash will be automatically deleted by the system on a periodic basis", I've decided not to empty the trash folder, but keep deleting email to find out how often Yahoo considers a periodic basis.

**BABYLON 5**
Admittedly, no person in Earth Force knows the complete truth about Babylon 4. I guess the truth isn't ready to be spelled out until the Minbari can accept that some of their souls are being reincarinated in humans.
**END BABYLON 5 Spoilers**
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 01:13:44 PM
IP: 204.94.193.57

Josh: (re cookies and milk) Umm I don't know? My lame attempt at being cute. ^_^;;;

Greg and Josh> awwww!! Well, I hope that I can pull off a great gathering for both of you and everyone else in fandom this year..hopefully. ^_^;;;

If anyone is thinking of giving gifts during the holiday season, why not give that favourite garg or goyle of yours a registration to the gathering!! For more information, go here!
http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/reg.html

Hurry!!! Early bird registration of $35 (which includes a free banquet meal) ends January 31st!

(and I fixed online registration..so no excuses! ;)

Ummm..and yeah I'll be updating the site one more time this week, and then there's going to be able two weeks with no updates (because I'll be away from all the files etc) However I will be answering email during the holiday season, so feel FREE to email me personally at siryn7@aol.com or the gathering email for any questions, concerns etc.

That's it from me today. ^_^;;
Siryn - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43:47 PM
IP: 129.21.230.184

Ok, this article is six days old, but it's still a very good read. Use the URL or click on my name.

http://www.theonion.com/onion3745/bandaged_bin_laden.html

Well, I took my Composition & Literature final today and got my final paper for that class back. Apparantly is sucked. I wrote a six page paper on Ernest Hemingway (my choices were quite limited), and apparantly I did not follow the guidelines correctly, neither did a large percentage of the class. Well as far as I'm concerned it's the professor's fault for not being a little more clear on what it was that he wanted. Well, spilt milk. There's always next semester.

Well, tomorrow night at 8 PM ET, I will be going to see "The Lord of the Rings". I bought my ticket on Friday, and am really looking forward to it. I still have yet to find one negative review for the movie. C'mon, there's got to be at least one critic who hates it. Oh well, good for Jackson for winning them over, mega blockbusters almost never win critics over... then again they mostly suck. More on that later.

JOSH> <<See you in the government, my friend.>> Yes you will my friend. <<>>: I hope he doesn't see everything...I'd be quite embarrassed if I ever met the guy.>> I'd have to punch the guy out. <> Hope the payoff was worth it. The Unseelie War arc was met with mixed reviews, some people enjoyed it and some people didn't. I'm one of those who was very enthusiastic about it and am still proud of it.

JAN> <> It was disgusting. <<This guy is evil to the core *nods*>> He's even worse than McVeigh was <<It might take some time, but I really believe that he will be brought to some kind of justice>> Yeah, something you'd see on www.rotten.com <<.... one that will not require a trial in the United States, if you know what I mean.>> Heh heh, I sure do. I know some people will scream and throw the Fifth Amendment in our faces, but hey as far as I'm concerned, the Bill of Rights only applies to *humans*.

Hey, where's SJ and his comments on current events? He's better at this than I am.

DPH> <<Dumb question: Since Sheridan got amnesty for his crew for their actions when they broke away from Earth, does that cover them 'borrowing' Babylon 4 to help in the last Shadow War?>> What makes you think EarthGov knows about this. I'd say that less than 20 people know the truth about Babylon 4.
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:20:48 PM
IP: 167.206.248.14

Hey, all! Hope everyone's finals and holiday seasons are going well! I'm takin' a minute to catch up and write y'all from home. And one of these next times that I post here will be actually *with* Coyote ... heh heh ... :)

Josh> Congrats on passing fluids class! :)

Jan> That is just awesome about the Christmas Angel guy. What a nice man!!! <<Even Denis tells me that I’m a bad singer>> *L* I know the feeling! I try to just lip sync too ... I'm *awful!* :) << Anna, my daughter, discovered that a Twinkie had actually molded in her room>> Um, yeah, it's definitely time to clean the room. ;) And ... Twinkies can actually *mold*? :)

Coyote> **huggles and kisses** Howdy! :) <<Oh yeah, and I already created a sim for Ravyn.>> **grins, blushes and winks** Yes, you certainly have ... and I've already caused too much trouble in the game! ;) <<Less than two weeks!>> GAH!! I can't wait! :)

**Ravyn pulls out some mistletoe, dangling it over Coyote's head and winking** Sorry, couldn't resist ... ;)
Ravyn
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:55:16 AM
IP: 216.183.198.199

A ramble, huh. Okay, well maybe not entirely a ramble, but a few disjointed memories 'cause that was foreverago.

There was a whole bunch of people on the Breakdown staff and the ideas were flying fast and furious. But, most of us were new at this virtual season stuff and the idea of scripting stories for other people to write. Because, for those of you that don't know, that's how it work. A group of people conceptualize the season and then write "scripts" or more properly, story outlines. And then other people (and sometimes some of the same people) write the actual stories. And all of these people are spread out across several timezones and continents so it's all done by email. A lot of email.

So anyway, ideas were flying fast and furious and I was kind of watching all of this happen and finally I wrote an email to the effect of "So you want a story that deals with the after effects of the 23rd Precinct bombing, and the Gargoyles Task Force, the gargoyles moving back in and burying the hatchet with Xanatos, plus you want to introduce the Quarrymen properly and oh yeah, set up the first threads of the Unseelie? Right. Got it. And out of that the first outline for Fallout was written. And we moved on to the next and so on.
Then weeks later, story assignments were made. I hadn't acutally ever planned to *write* for TGS, (at the time I didn't consider myself a writer) I just wanted to do research and then I started doing the outlines and found I liked that aspect. But Christi had read the very rough short fics that I'd posted to the archive and thought I wrote a credible Elisa and Goliath. So I became part of the team that wrote "Fallout".
Team writing. What a concept. Some times it works well. Sometimes, not so well. This experience fell somewhere in the middle. But at last the story was done. Oh wait. Except for the editting. And did we mention that we want to debut at the first Gathering in New York? No pressure. Really.
For the record, and for anybody who might remember me at readings with my head in my hands or maybe staring at the carpet? I find public readings to be scary things. I tend to be thrilled when they're over and done. (But of course I peek from time to time to see how the work is being received.)
Maybe someone else wants to jump in at this point?

Btw, thanks to Rahsaan for starting this thread.

kathy
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 08:57:42 AM
IP: 24.98.56.90

Hey guys! I'm now offically home and I'm loving it! I set a record for myself today, I finished all my Christmas shopping in just 2 hours! And I did all the wrapping in 1 hour so I'm completely relaxed and worry-free right now. I know everyone is psyched up for LotR as much as I am, just a little bit longer guys :)
Josh> I don't think I'm going to see LotR the first day because it's a big thing for me and my mom and she works all the time right now. I want to wait until she can go see it with me cause we like to whisper in the theatre about things they change from the book and the characters and all that detail crap.
Spacebabie> Harry Potter already beat out Titanic, I wouldn't be surpried if LotR does the same.
SOROW
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 02:51:23 AM
IP: 209.254.216.222

Ugh...studied again today. And my grade for dynamics wasn't available. Which means that I'm gonna find out tomorrow that I failed, right before I take my stat final. Great motivator, huh?

I get to my review for stat to discover a note that says "review is postponed until same time tomorrow". Great...except that the final is at that time.

Siofra is busy with a mouse in her room. Don't ask, I didn't.

Just a few more days and I'm outta here!

replies.

Spacebabie: <<her exosuit>>: A chick with an exosuit. Sweet.

DPH: <<DPH opens a portal above Imzadi and drops twice Imzadi's weight of zero degree Kelvin snowballs on Imzadi>>: Too bad, they melt anyway. Zero degree snowballs would evaporate upon reaching something as hot as 98.6 degrees F. <<you are going to get severely drenched>>: I'm hot enough to evaporate them. So I just get slightly steamed. <<*Yawns.* No problem>>: You obviously didn't get the joke.

Greg X: <<Yasser Arafat is pleading that Israel stop trying to kill terrorists and resume peace talks>>: Somehow I don't think he'll convince them. <>: See you in the government, my friend. <<knows when I'm awake and if I've been bad or good>>: And when you...uh, nevermind. <<this strikes me as a violation of the right to privacy. Who knows what else he sees you doing>>: I hope he doesn't see everything...I'd be quite embarrassed if I ever met the guy. <<some foreshadowing to the Madoc Morfryn and the Second Unseelie War with one small line, "the master will be pleased">>: I don't even remember that line. But I probably thought "thank god I've got three more seasons already written that I can read and find out WTF they're talking about.

Taleweaver: <<Fallout>>: There was NO transition from Jon Canmore to Castaway in TGC. I really enjoyed that element of TGS. <<and one other>>: How about his conflicting interest as a cop? Or the gargoyles task force?

Nukes: <<about the dropships and tanks: lol. neewwwbbiieesssssss>>: Actually, that's a great strategy that my roommate who has hundreds of victories often uses. And you're starting to sound just like every other trash-talking teenage SC twerp. Just accept the ideas of strategies. <>: Yeah, the 8500 I think. But as I recall, its the same price. <<are you serious? ive been playing this game for 3 years>>: Oh, I've only been playing for 2.5 years. <<wraiths SUCK, cant do @#$@# against froud units>>: I have bad news for you: 100 wraiths will obliterate ANYTHING. <<marines SUCK, they are good air support but most other ground units of any race OWN them>>: Again, 200 marines will walk all over the map (unless its an island map). <>: Who says I need both? <<ive seen 2 people, that few, use it before, and neither of them suceeded. most of them use other stratagys>>: Oh well if 2 people have tried and failed then OBVIOUSLY it must be a lousy strategy. Concede, if you will, that your experiences are not the be-all-end-all of starcraft strategy. <<siege tanks are worthless against bcs ya know>>: Missle turrets. Marines. Wraiths. Any of these things are more than capable of helping deal with BC's. <<EVERY race has upgrades>>: Yes but +3/+3 wraiths and +4/+3 marines are quite deadly.

Gside: <<my network was down for the weekend>>: Sorry to hear that. <<I'm going to be spending Christmas in New Hampshire, with no connection in sight>>: How do you plan to survive? <>: Kinky. Didn't you get a mess of papercuts? <<You have no idea how much>>: Thankfully. <<No? It's quite interesting>>: Doubtful. <<The worst conceptually was Super Taboo Extreme, involving transexual incest>>: Charming. <<Frisking the dead guards looks like you're anally raping them>>: Everytime I get frisked I say "I feel violated". <<few are this small>>: I figured he'd miss that one.

Todd: <<without the Canmore background, Castaway's reasons for hunting the gargoyles and setting up the Quarrymen remain an utter mystery>>: You noticed that too, huh?

Revel: <<they may have a rival coming up with the NY excursion>>: That isn't it 2001 though.

Jim R: <<OS X movie>>: Apple would never use that. But its pretty funny.

Fire Storm: <<are you Hexadecimal?>>: No, just weird. <<there is something about segmented body's that just drive me WILD>>: No comment. <<do you need one of those stupid access points?>>: You need a base station of some sort. So far, only Apple supports "software base station", and then only in 9. So you need a combination router/wireless base station, or two separate devices. A few wireless cards is fine for setting up an in-house network though. But if you want to go online...you need a base station to connect to your DSL modem. <<99.9% of water is just the single proton>>: Um, no, because most of water is Oxygen, which has 8 protons ;-). Any way, my bad. <<BUT if you take too long to pass it, it may not be that fast>>: We were having an argument a few weeks ago about whether it'd be faster to drive the computer to san jose and use firewire target mode or to upload and download the data...driving won (it was a few gigs of data).

Think happy thoughts. By the next time I post, I will be a free man.

They've really got my balls in a juice maker.
-Mr. Tweek, South Park

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 02:33:41 AM
IP: 64.161.27.1

Well, a weekend without internet was bad, but I'm going to be spending Christmas in New Hampshire, with no connection in sight.

And I raped another exam today. Seems they're ordered by increasing difficulty.

Imzadi> <<Thats not saying much>>: True, you need to remember the context. He was putting them on right next to the prostitutes and bearbaiters. But they were quite entertaining.
<<Write the algorithm in that time, or write the algorithm so that its O(n) is that?>>: Write the algorithm so it performs its task in that time complexity.
<<You wish>>: You have no idea how much.
<>: No? It's quite interesting.
<<Obviously you've never taken a lit class>>: Too many, but they still deal with fewer absolutes.

Fire Storm> <<Just at night. Most of the time she dosn't wear any underware at all>>: Mmm..., but why put anything on at all just because the earth is between her and the sun?

Wilek> <<This can only be done in multiplayer? Frell>>: It is the more popular way of playing. I'm sure there are many item creation programs for one player.
<<What changed while I was gone?>>: The regular collection of sanity stopped. Please continue this current spurt of posting.<<Why is she breeding sumo pigs?>>: Why study Martial Arts Okonomiyaki? There are some things only Ms. Takahashi knows.
<<Have you played it by now?>>: Nope middle of exams, should anyone get one in here, our grades would die a horrible death. That should be rectified next semester.
<<what is the name of the filthiest hentai manga or anime you know of?>>: Don't remember, but it was untranslated and in color. I seem to remember scatological acts and hermaphrodites, but I bugged out quickly. The worst conceptually was Super Taboo Extreme, involving transexual incest.
<<Muha>>: Shoot.
<<<socratic mode> Why?>>: See my recent discussion with Mooncat.
<<Or has the ESRB lightened its standards?>>: I think it's rated mature. Frisking the dead guards looks like you're anally raping them.
<<You just described every localized sensory organ in the body>>: few are this small.
<<Ah...then what does FLCL stand for?>>: It's the romanization of Furi Kuri (remember the lack of l/r difference). It's also the source of many puns in the first episode.
<<I'd like to>>: Think about it.
<<However, the nanites need to broadcast as well>>: Ah. My bad.
<<Who's Knaw? He sounds cool>>: That's she. She's one of Crushed's companions at supermegatopia.com. It has a bit too much cheesecake for your tastes.
<<Nope. Is it out on DVD?>>: Not exactly. Hidden Weapons is a martial arts style (utilized by a Takahashi character who happens to be m'boy). I just felt like capitalizing it.
<<When did that start, 1940s Germany?>>: Entirely possible, but it still is as amusing as any other stereotype.
<<Quarterly? Gods I have to get in here more often>>: Haven't a clue how large your lag was this time, but it might provoke you into being more frequent.
<<How is she unfortunate if she isn't being (there's no delicate way to put this) raped?>>: I wasn't talking about the schoolgirl, but the monster. You know, you would like Glemph from Ghastly's.
<<Not sure what to make of this>>: It seems to line up with everything I've seen. I've even read the biography to which they refer, and seen the pictures. But I believe he did say he would never pressure the parents, and that he liked the original photography processing method and thought the new method lost it's artistry.
<<A Leak In My Brain>>: You've been experimenting with trephanation?

And the mp3 is now Great Big Sea's The Mummer's Song. It's actually a christmas song.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:32:08 AM
IP: 165.230.240.114

Stephen: Thanks for the congratulations ... and be sure to watch tomorrow night's Tonight Show.

I just found out about this a few minutes ago ... basically Johnnie Morton (Lions receiver) did a quick sideline interview with ESPN where he looked straight in the camera and said "I WANT JAY LENO TO KISS MY ASS!" (This was *after* the win yesterday) From what I understand Johnnie Morton will be making an appearance tomorrow night on Leno's show. Big fun should ensue. ;)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, December 17, 2001 11:41:21 PM
IP: 64.243.214.44

DPH: <If I hear about you owning an animal, I'm calling the Humane Society for that response.>
Ah, just because I have a cat and a dog dosn't mean I would actually DO that!
I love my little mutt and my cat is just about the only cat I really like.
<Who needs clones, when with portals, I can scatter my entire body across more than 1000 locations worldwide?>
Are you Hexadecimal?

Jan: <oops, I first typed out “firestone” hehe *coughs* anyway… >
Well, I am a little tired! ;)
<*still laughing* that’s sick, dude! I love it! ;p>
I don't know about you, but there is something about segmented body's that just drive me WILD! ;)

Terrky: <was that really suppost to be thier last album?!>
Unfortunately. They wern't really together since their last concert tour a few years ago (I don't remember what tour that was), and they wanted to get one last "Greatest Hits" album before they officially decided to quit for good.
<all those freaky pupets and stuff>
Look, it's Floyd. It dosn't matter if what tour it is, if you are there, you WILL get high enough to see puppets and other freaky stuff no matter what!

Coyote: <Not quite sure, but I've heard "scrunchin" in relation to eating, to answering the phone, and to playing with the Frank Lloyd Wright dream dollhouse>
Ah, I think it is a general term for "Wow! This is great!"
It is REALLY sad when you can understand them, isn't it?

Imzadi: <Only if they wiggle in your lap>
Hmm... Na. At that point all they are good for is to put them at the door to block the draft.
<Just hand out razor blades and coke on Halloween...that'll take care of them>
Na, there's already a house doing that in the area. Don't need another.
<Go wireless, and this won't be a problem>
Do you need one of those stupid access points or can I just connect with a few wireless cards? I THINK I don't need a point, but I can't get a straight answer out of anyone. I got a proxy server to share internet access, so why buy a router like that?
Plus, I like the security and actually laying cable. Weird, but true!
<Hydrogen nucleus = 1 proton + 1 neutron>
Deuterium, yes. But 99.9% of water is just the single proton.
<The actual act of me handing you the computer>
True... BUT if you take too long to pass it, it may not be that fast!

Gside: <Because you were (not) wondering, my network was down for the weekend. It was a horrible, horrible experience>
Who were the sickos that did that to you?

Christine: <And because NO medical professional seems physically able to begin an appointment at the scheduled time, or even within 15 minutes of it>
Weird... my dentist seems to always be able to start my appointment on time or even EARLY!
Fire Storm
Monday, December 17, 2001 11:23:34 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Josh (or any other Mac fans)>>

Just thought you might like to see this movie. My friend Chris (who I recently made a Mac-convert, plans on buying his own G4 [or maybe G5?] along with a Powerbook soon) had this idea for an Apple MacOS X commercial and created it. I went back through and added some special effects to it. It's 6.3MB, but worth the download. It shouldn't take but a minute or two for broadband people. Click my name, take a look and tell me what you think.
Jim R. - [<-- AquamanX]
Monday, December 17, 2001 10:33:53 PM
IP: 65.164.16.101

"Fallout"> I thought it was a great introduction to TGS, sure I may be biased, but I don't care. I'm an arrogant prick and we all know it, might as well not deny it ;)

Anyway, the story itself was well done and I thought served as a very nice aftermath to "Hunter's Moon". I thought our depiction of Jon Canmore was far better than that of TGC. The clan was handled well also, and there was some very nice development on Elisa. The story just felt real.

Of course in this story we also introduced Garlon as a member of the Illuminati and some foreshadowing to the Madoc Morfryn and the Second Unseelie War with one small line, "the master will be pleased".

TODD & KATHY> Come on, Greg Weisman is doing his own episode rambles, it'd be fun for you to wade in and contribute. I know I am.

STEPHEN> Ummm, what are you talking about? In TGC they never said that Jon Canmore and John Castaway were one and the same. TGS's version was far superior.
Greg Bishansky
Monday, December 17, 2001 10:15:57 PM
IP: 216.179.1.115

Matt Bluestone: Oh! I know. But wait. I co-wrote "Fallout" so I guess I get to sit on the sidelines and watch.
kathy
Monday, December 17, 2001 10:05:34 PM
IP: 24.98.56.90

Well the trip went well enough aside that I had to stare at nothing for four hours but i have gotten use to that. First Monday back and I went to work, that is what I call a fast interview. Same old job same old faces. Can't wait to see there faces when I ask for a five days off coming up.

Taleweaver- I thought Fallout was a better transistion to a third season when compared to The Journey. When you see it on TV you see this new hate group that suddenly organized and a guy who you know is Canmore but they do not say it. Which was the biggest let down for me regarding TGC.

Josh-the Gathering was definitly the best four days of 2001 but they may have a rival coming up with the NY excursion.

boy I'm tired, I have to get up early tomorrow to decorate the house. Ah the joy to be home.

Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Monday, December 17, 2001 09:15:07 PM
IP: 172.157.93.96

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Yes back to the question test
Revel
Monday, December 17, 2001 09:07:30 PM
IP: 172.157.93.96

Avalon Mists > the race is on for a new editor! The Spring 2002 issue will be my last and a successor is needed. Click or go to http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/avmists/dec01_let_2.html for more info. Thanks.

Augh, what a day. Not only was this morning Tim's torture session at the dental surgery office, but Becca has come down with an ear infection. And because NO medical professional seems physically able to begin an appointment at the scheduled time, or even within 15 minutes of it, I've spent much of today in various waiting rooms and pharmacies. Now he's comatose on the couch with a mouthful of gauze, and Becca was up unil after eleven last night crying. All we need is for something to happen to me and we got a triple play! ::knock on wood::

Coyote > LOL, well, I think Tim and Becca have created a Sims house based on Hogwarts, so they're just as bad.

DPH > ackpthft! Snow!

Josh > yes, reading and learning in general was and is a big priority with us when it comes to Becca. She's grown up around it (and gaming) and is already a fair hand at making up stories of her own.

Stephen > oh, well, for me the only hurting squirrels thing comes from an episode of Blackadder, the highwayman one ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, December 17, 2001 07:43:08 PM
IP: 64.24.35.144

*sigh x11* winters not far awaaaaaaay

the fall dead-line is getting closer and closer.

wow. not very many people have posted today. AT ALL.

whats the deal people?

anyway, i'm gonna go do stuff now.

shine on all your crazy diamonds

-={Terrky, the Efficient Rock Star}=-

Terrky K - [rock_star_x11@yahoo.com]
Kansas
Monday, December 17, 2001 07:13:16 PM
IP: 63.252.223.57

Well, for the most part I'm likely to stay out of TGS episode/review discussions since as a staff member (from the start) I can't really give my unbiased opinion on them. But I'd like to say this: I don't think that there actually was *any* transition from Jon Canmore to Castaway in "The Goliath Chronicles", for the simple reason that once Greg Weisman left, the new production team didn't even pay any attention to the fact that they were supposed to be the same guy (except for that "ancient feud" line of Goliath's in "Angels in the Night"). Which, to me at least, was a big mistake, since without the Canmore background, Castaway's reasons for hunting the gargoyles and setting up the Quarrymen remain an utter mystery.

(One could, I suppose, go for the notion of the "Goliath Chronicles" Castaway being a Kingpin-style crime boss masquerading as a legitimate businessman who set up the Quarrymen as a means of getting revenge on the gargoyles for foiling his crooked operations, although if that was the case, he'd have been well-advised not to openly associate himself with the Quarrymen, at least, not the kind of Quarrymen as portrayed in "Goliath Chronicles" who go around shooting anti-aircraft guns in downtown Manhattan and attack passenger trains.)
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, December 17, 2001 06:32:27 PM
IP: 168.191.109.247

Greetings all...

Today was a bit of a anti-climax: I twisted my foot at work, and had to be sent home. that wasn't the worst part. The worst part was having to wait for three hours before there was enough of a pause in the lunch rush so my boss could fill out an accident report. Fortunately, no broken bones or pulled muscles... what I think happened was a bone that normally stays put popped out then back in again. Anway, I've taken major pain killers and have had my foot soaking in ice and warm water alternatively... hopefully will not be as tender when I have to go back to work tomorrow at 4 in the morning. I'll have an Ace bandage wrapped around it , since I don't have a stiffer brace right now (can't afford one, since it's three days till payday...)

Anyway, before today I got a surprise when I got off work sunday; my girl Heather called me from Tennessee, to let me know about her travel arrangements to come home for christmas (her parents are driving her down, towing her car along so she can have it here in St.Pete/Tampa). We ended up talking for two hours about me coming over Christmas morning, and what we have planned during her stay...since, she's not going back to Tennessee for TWO MONTHS! JOY!!! ^_^

Now, for a few replies:

COYOTE - It may be a bit late, but thanks heaps for bringing back old memories of my team when we used to call them (in a Norm-Chi-town fan voice) "Da BUCS!"...you would have to remember that we were the first team in modern NFL history to go 0-16 for not one season, but for two. <shakes head> Well, at least your Lions aren't headed in that direction. Congrats on the win over the Vikings! Now if only N'awlins will lose to the Rams, and then if my boys can get by the Saints, Ravens and the Eagles...

CRZY - Oh, leave Josh alone! Why don't you go out with Alexander in the next room and hurt some squirrels? ^_^

(cybercookie to the next person that can spot that reference)

"FALLOUT" - Best I can say is that I prefer how Canmore turned to Castaway from the way TGC did it...made a heck of a lot more sense.

CHRISTINE - Sorry to hear about your stepping down from AMists... but considering your profession writing is going places, it's understandible. Though I will add to the crowd of commenters that say you did a fantastic job running the 'zine...despite what some people say about it. ^_^

And that's all from me... got to go elevate my foot so more.

Maitain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Monday, December 17, 2001 05:57:58 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

Because you were (not) wondering, my network was down for the weekend. It was a horrible, horrible experience.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Monday, December 17, 2001 04:46:40 PM
IP: 165.230.240.117

shadowrider- have you always been in italy? i dont know that much about you.

<<For the channel...no preferences.>>

how about gargoyles? :)

<<Monday? >> the 24th or today? either is fine.

about the dropships and tanks: lol. neewwwbbiieesssssss :D

i cant WAIT to play you.

josh- <<cracked out machine it can be.>> great mission statement, i have the same one ;)

<<There are 64 meg cards out there that are REPUTABLE that cost less than $400? Link me! >>

of course, give me a day or 2 to talk to one of my tech teachers (he has part time at Electronic Boutique too! how cool is that? store sucks, i know, but he does work there)

he knows a great deal about video cards and such... i think ATI came out with the one that i am thinking of.... ill send you a link when i get it from him.

<<Um, no. Wraiths. Marines. Upgrades>> LOL. are you serious? ive been playing this game for 3 years. wraiths SUCK, cant do @#$@# against froud units, and marines SUCK, they are good air support but most other ground units of any race OWN them. medics cannot help 90 zealots rushing into you base. i beg you, use wraiths and marines and kill me :D:D

about the tanks drop, ive seen 2 people, that few, use it before, and neither of them suceeded. most of them use other stratagys.

josh AND shadowrider- battlecruisers were "made better" in the recent patch. the time to build was reduced and the supply cost was reduced to 6 from 8. so NOW everyone who is terran does i for bcs, maybe not then. siege tanks are worthless against bcs ya know ;)

oh, and remember, EVERY race has upgrades, silly 80)

NukesGoBoom
Monday, December 17, 2001 03:58:04 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Rant response> Partly this is devil's advocate, but partly because I think the US is missing the big picture. Israel bombs the heck out Arafat's support systems: the men and equipment needed to do the job, then yells at him for not getting the job done? That doesn't sound like a genuine concern for peace.
Taleweaver - [loremaster@hotmail.com]
Monday, December 17, 2001 03:10:08 PM
IP: 134.71.41.95

Howdy all,
TGS> Sort through the responses I thought we could kick it off like this: an episode round table starting from Fallout and a character spotlight discussing a character in the series. See where things go from there.

Episode Round Table - "Fallout Part 1"
Basically, I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts. What they liked and disliked about the episode. Did you think the transition of Jon Canmore to John Castaway was more believable than in the Goliath Chronicles. What did you think about the character traits.

Character Spotlight: Matt Bluestone
There are three major factors affecting Bluestone's life since Hunter's Moon: Sara Jaspar, the Illuminati and one other. Here's the challenge: Find the third and back it up. The one who makes the best argument gets a gold star.

I hope this stirs some discussion.
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Monday, December 17, 2001 03:02:34 PM
IP: 134.71.41.95

::Steps in with a flame thrower and melts snowballs thrown at him:: Heh heh heh. That's all I needed it for ;)

Well, we've finally broken al Qaida resistance at Tora Bora. Upon capturing al Qaida fighters, many of them broke down in tears begging and crying to the Northern Alliance not to be handed over to the United States. Normally I'd say take your punishment like a man, but this amuses me to know end. Come on, cry some more. We get our kicks seeing terrorists cry.

Of course we still don't know where Osama bin Laden is. But hey, we can play this game much longer than he can.

Getting back to the subject of crybabies, Yasser Arafat is pleading that Israel stop trying to kill terrorists and resume peace talks. Well Mr Arafat, since you're still alive, I don't think Israel is trying very hard to kill terrorists. But you want to live, stop lying and be a part of the solution rather than a part of the problem. You say you care about innocent Palestinians and that you care about peace, well than prove it. I don't expect you to since I see right through your lies, as does the majority of the world.

Whew, sorry for the rant.

I just took my final for "American Government & Issues" and while I don't know my exact grade yet, I kicked ass on it. This was my best class this semester, I really have a knack for politics.

JOSH> <<Since I'm Jewish, the gathering staff clearly ranks above Santa Claus for "best gift giver".>> I second that. Each and every Gathering staff for the Gatherings I've been to has given me the best weekend of my year. As for Santa Claus, I'd hardly call him the "best gift giver". If he sees me when I'm sleeping and knows when I'm awake and if I've been bad or good, well this strikes me as a violation of the right to privacy. Who knows what else he sees you doing. Hey Santa, since you see and know everything, give the world a gift and tell us where Osama bin Laden is?

Okay, I've got to run and catch a bus home. I'll post more this evening.
Greg Bishansky
Monday, December 17, 2001 02:18:21 PM
IP: 167.206.248.14

**DPH lays down a comfortable bed and opens 1000+ portals and manages to have various parts of his body fit through different portals, thus causing Shadowrider's global system to short circuit due to DPH's resident DNA being in too many locations at once. Once that is accomplished, slowly parts of his body out of those portals, closing the portals off as his goes.**

Who needs clones, when with portals, I can scatter my entire body across more than 1000 locations worldwide?

Shadowrider, NukesGoBoom, SpaceBabie, and Patrick - you know I do give you ammo for a snowball fight, right?

**DPH opens a portal above Silvadel and drops 10 pounds of snowballs on Silvadel. Then, he does the same thing to Daphne, Terrky, Coyote the Bando, Fire Storm, Mooncat, Christine, and Skippy the Klingon. DPH opens a portal above Imzadi and drops twice Imzadi's weight of zero degree Kelvin snowballs on Imzadi.**

Fortunately, I still have quite a few bags of tricks left to avoid being hit with snowballs.

Jan - Are you still sure it's such a good idea to hide behind a guy who has been dropping pounds of snowballs on people?

The chiropractor said he was going to monitor this visit and next visit (12-27-2001) to determine when he releases me from treatment.

Imzadi - Even if you manage to melt those 0 degree Kelvin snowballs, you are going to get severely drenched. <Would you believe there are five twelve year olds armed with super-soakers standing outside the CR?> *Yawns.* No problem, I can relocate them to Hawaii before I walk outside.

I wonder how long before the entire CR decides to throw snowballs at me.

SpaceBabie - I didn't THROW a snowball at you. I only dropped them on you.

**DPH disappears from the CR, barely avoiding SpaceBabie's snowballs.**
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, December 17, 2001 12:50:44 PM
IP: 204.94.193.76

Enters and notices people using shoddy snowballs. She opens a portal to Island's of Adventure to the Grinch area with home made snow.
Here you go!

The Chibis hop over to the Tea Table of Peach wich Spacebabie began to set up treats: ginger bread cookies, Ben and Jerry's Festivus, Candy canes, Hot cocoa, cider, nog and those chocolate oranges and reasberry's.

Countdown

8 days till Crhistmas
one week till Christmas Eve
4 more days till the first day of winter.
2 more days till LotR opens.

Speaking of the holiday season. I painted my nails, and toenails red and green.

and now it is reply time.
DPH>>>Equips Rapid fire guns to her exosuit end begins to launch a barrage of snowballs at DPH and anyone else who threw a snowball at her.

Jan<<<However, I hope that you are not insinuating that I’m OLD! ;p >>> No your younger than my dad. He is old and your not, and yes I can make fun of his age. He is recovering nicely and is very feisty.<<<my baby is 19 now>>>So is my brother. Can we trade?

Coyote<<>> Kewl let me know how those turn out. I hope your making a Misoto
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl.
Monday, December 17, 2001 12:01:15 PM
IP: 67.25.49.116

Hmmm...seems no one has posted in quite a few hours.

studied for stat today. And that's about it. Met with my friends in the engineering library. Would you believe that in 2.5 years here, I've never been inside the engineering library?

No?

Would you believe there are five twelve year olds armed with super-soakers standing outside the CR?

No?

Would you believe... ah, nevermind. If you haven't gotten the joke by now, you're not going to. Anyway, studying for stat is a pain. I know the first half of the material pretty well...but I don't really know the rest of it since I kind of stopped going to class after getting a perfect score on the midterm. Oh well, the final is only 40% of my grade, how much damage can I do?

Dumb question.

Terrky: <<can ya believe theres only like 9 more days till christmas>>: Forget Christmas, I have a more important holiday coming up: WINTER BREAK! <<does HTML work on here>>: Sadly, no. <<she can't very well celibreate christmas for what it is>>: If she thinks its a commercial holiday, then there's nothing to stop her from celebrating whatever she perceives x-mas to be. <<it's about time travel. does it have to make sense?>>: Actually, yes. <<no one likes to read through a buncha crap that i typed just because i'm bored outta my mind>>: Which begs the question: "why bother?"

Gray: <<It's not your fault those before you had been up too long to count coherently>>: What was wrong wtih "First"?

Jan: <<we're quite capable of counting correctly>>: Well, some of us. Just not the engineers. <<Hey California Boy, that’s not anthrax – that’s SNOW>>: What's the difference? <<Hide me?>>: I don't participate in snowball fights, since the fact that snowballs can't hit me due to my naturally raised body temperature makes it very not fun for other people. <<Don’t bother trying to figure it all out – I’m not giving my age to anyone>>: ::flashback to G2k1:: <<don’t worry about the guys in here.. they are really a bunch of prudes>>: This is me you're talking about. I think about two things: sex and computers (not together, you sicko!). <>: Back in high school, we used to refer to the key of S (suck). <<because I don’t want to throw everyone else out of key>>: The fact that I can't sing will never stop me from doing it, especially since most of my music has a lot of screaming in it anyway.

Spacebabie: <<Alien Ant Farm, I love this band>>: Personally, I find their lyrics to be unimaginative and sad. Come on: "Sticks and stones...they hurt." THIS is what pop music has come to!? <<Britney Spears is gonna go in the buff for PETA>>: YES! Where/when? <<the girl is a Shill, She shills for Pepsi and drinks Coke>>: And she's making a fortune doing it. <<and now for something completly different>>: For your viewing pleasure, channel 3 will now explode. <<THE FIRST SNOWBALL FIGT OF THE CR HAS OFFICALLY BEGUN>>:

Fortunately, the shear warmth of Los Angeles that hangs about me melts all snowballs before they can hit.

Silvadel: <<how can you have christmas on your mind when it is 65 degrees outside?>>: I LOVE LA!

Shadowrider: <<you return and you see there are just two replies for you>>: And one is from me ;-) <<Human activities ARE changing the climate. Global warming IS a problem>>: We can't prove that. For all we know, this is a natural change. <<discovered that while I was away someone stole my old battle name>>: Curses! <<You sure?>>: I was, but apparently I was wrong. <<It means that if there will be the chance I will introduce you to my prettiest cousin with no regrets or worryings about consequences>>: Woohoo! Cute italian chicks! <<it is a common wish, I suspect>>: I agree. <<UGH!>>: Can you think of a better way to be rich/start taking over the world? <<What's your preferences, pal?>>: Short brunettes. No feminists. Agressive and Inventive. Has an IQ over 120. And a future. <<that little thing of military service kept me away from battle.net>>: Fools...all that time you could have spent sending marines to their deaths! <<dropping a dozen of Siege Tanks right in the middle of my base>>: I love doing that. <<

Fire Storm: <<all they do is wiggle and still annoy you>>: Only if they wiggle in your lap. <<Like spraying them with water...or napalm>>: LOL! <>: Just hand out razor blades and coke on Halloween...that'll take care of them. <>: Go wireless, and this won't be a problem. <<How can you split hydrogen>>: Hydrogen nucleus = 1 proton + 1 neutron. <<What else transmits at over 1 gbps>>: The actual act of me handing you the computer ;-) <<they are smart enough to get away with it>>: ...

DPH: <<Why bother throwing snowballs when you just drop them>>: To prove that you don't throw like a girl. <<if I ever hear of possessing animals>>: I would never do such a thing. Still, it's funny to jest about.

Nukes: <>: I don't do a lot of gaming, I just want the GeForce3 to get better FPS on visualizations, faster renders, etc. That, and to make my machine the most cracked out machine it can be. <<there are other cards out there that can compete with the 'Force at a lower price>>: There are 64 meg cards out there that are REPUTABLE that cost less than $400? Link me! <<thats the only reason people play tertran nowadays is for bcs>>: Um, no. Wraiths. Marines. Upgrades. Need I say more? Or how about the dreaded tank drop? <<what day and channel should we meet in? what time? are you in the new england time zone?>>: He's in Italy! Sometime during the 19th is best...else I'm off till Jan.

Daphne: <<there sure is! check the link>>: Okay yeah I saw that one.

Christine: <<I've got a kid who can read>>: Just out of curiosity, was Becca reading at a very young age? I'd imagine with you being an author that reading would be at the top of the list of things to teach your child (well, right under potty-training ;-)) <<five nights off in a row!>>: ::is jealous:: <<gruesome dental surgery>>: Wisdom teeth? <<chilly rain>>: Ah, Seattle.

Skippy: I signed it! Caves are bad!

Siryn: <>: Look ma, I've created a ruckus! <<maybe some cookies and milk you can email us>>: How does one email milk and cookies? I mean, I would if you gave me a viable method for doing so. Since I'm Jewish, the gathering staff clearly ranks above Santa Claus for "best gift giver".

Alright, I'm tired. See ya'll tomorrow.

They've really got my balls in a salad shooter.
-Mr. Tweek, South Park

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, December 17, 2001 04:28:58 AM
IP: 64.161.27.1

Hey gang,

if anyone has asked any Gathering related questions recently, and I haven't answered them. I apologise. I sggest for the moment simply emailing me personally or emailing the gathering address. I do check both emails constantly (I just haven't had much chat and hang out online time recently.)

Anyways, Update time.

Contests and More now on the gathering website!
Go to:
http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/event.html
for more information

And of course, for the regular update, go to:
http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org/update.html

I think I've figured out what EXACTLY is going to happen with badges, so the badge faq is going to be updated sometime this week. (its not updated right this minute so don't go checking)

Also, I found out NONE of the forms were working on site!!!!! So..now that is fixed (I checked them this afternoon just to make sure) So if anyone had any problems filing out the online form, you are able to do so now!! So...go!

Also, if you only want to pay $35 for gathering registration, you have until January 31st! Time is running out, so ummm..HURRY AND REGISTER!! ;)

Patrick> *gargie eyes* Ummm could you show me where to get one of those cool count down thingeesssss? Pwease? ;D (nice fic you sent me btw...it was...interesting. ~_^)

Blah , anyways gargs and goyles, there should be a gathering update mailer tomorrow (I hope..) So you'll get the total 411 then. ^_^

And as always, got comments, questions, praise, rants, or maybe some cookies and milk you can email us at gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com or me at siryn7@aol.com

Happy Last day of Hannuaka! (i know, I spelled that wrong..*slaps wrist*)
Siryn - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:51:14 PM
IP: 24.93.24.2

Fire Storm: Not quite sure, but I've heard "scrunchin" in relation to eating, to answering the phone, and to playing with the Frank Lloyd Wright dream dollhouse. :)

Christine: Okay, here's the way it worked for me ... bought the basic Sims game for my mother for Christmas. Installed it because I'm a nice guy and because she has little to no patience for installation of Plug-And-Pray programs. Decided to playtest it to figure out if I'd installed it correctly.

I have now degenerated to attempting to create Sim skins for the entire cast of Neon Genesis Evangelion. ;) (Hey, at least I'm not tryin' to make sim Evas. Hey, that'd be a pretty cool game ... SimEva. ;)

Oh yeah, and I already created a sim for Ravyn. **huggles Ravyn** Less than two weeks! :)
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, December 16, 2001 06:47:29 PM
IP: 64.243.214.142

Hola people! Two posts in a day, now that is something rare from me! And both quite long, too...it's gonna rain, for sure...

"Ask, and will be given..." Whoa, seems that someone took that remark on the lack of replies a bit seriously! Hey, guyz, I was saying in jest, I just forgot to put the ;) after it. Well, it doesn't mean I don't like seeing posts for me...just, don't talk to me only because I said that! Ok? ;)

DPH:> <cleans away snow> Thank you for the thought...I think... <takes out a small transmitter: "Computer, global scan on DPH's genetic trace. Prepare self-propelled remote-controlled snowballs (trade mark) for launching. At my signal...FIRE!!!> ;)

Nukes:> In order: My old battle name was the same I use inside here. Since someone stole it, I am now playing as GurneyHalleck (is a character from Frank Herbert's "Dune"...). I doubt we have ever met before on battleground, except if you sometimes played on ITA-1 channel. Yes, I haven't played BroodWar for a year and something, that little thing of military service kept me away from battle.net...
About yesterday's battle, there's not much to say. I didn't remember well the units and buildings, so I wasted a lot of time in the beginning, and my opponent did overthrow me before I could assemble a good attack force. He did use Battlecruisers, but not only them. He attacked first with some Bcs with Yamato cannons on my external turret line, than sent in a couple swarms of Wraiths to engage my defense troops, while the Bcs took down my Science Vessels. With all my detectors out in one side of my base, he could send in a couple Ghosts to nuke my inner defense line, and the havoc was completed by a swarm of Dropships dropping a dozen of Siege Tanks right in the middle of my base (the Drop Tanks is a tactic I used as well in my days...). I must say, he was very quick and precise in issuing orders to his troops, the whole attack was perfectly coordinated, so I doubt I could beat him even in my best shape. Oh, well...defeat is not important, as long as you learn from it.
For the day we could meet...well, I will be quite busy for the rest of the week...Saturday I have a concert, Sunday I will be away. Monday? For the channel...no preferences. <<are you in the new england time zone? >> Ehm, no...I am in Central Europe time zone.

Jan:> Hey, like I said above, that remark on the lack of replies was said in half-joke. (not that I am not happy of hearing you...rather the opposite!) No problem, really...I know how RL can keep us occupied. Actually, I must apologize because I didn't say anything to you since I've returned...I've been so busy that when I could write into here, I just replied to what people said to me. BTW, I am happy to know that your job goes well, and most of all that relations between you and your daughter have improved. About "Hitler's willing executors", it is an history book by D.G. Goldhagen, published in 1996 if I remember well. It was the topic for quite a discussion between historians when it came out. Basically, in the book the author shows, with the support of a huge quantity of documents and witnessings, that Nazist persecutions of Jews was not actuated, as it's always been said, by just the SS, but that lots of people from nearly all sectors of German society (policemen, soldiers, common people) not only cooperated, but eventually showed a great enthusiasm and initiative in taking part to the persecution and to the extermination of german Jews. The conclusion of the author is that the anti-semitism was not created of strenghtened by the Nazist power, but was already present and very strong, and Nazists just had to use it. Well...at least, it is what I got of the book. As I said, the mere amount of docments produced is impressive, and the book is not easy to read (it was originally thought just for experts, and only after its completion was decided to sell it to general public...), but I found it very interesting.
<<twinkie molded in her room>> Ouff...I usually keep my room VERY clean right to avoid things like that...actually, I am a bit paranoid about hygiene and cleaning...

Christine:> No need to thanks: I just said what I think. <<fairness it'll be best to let the readers decide who should be next. >> You already know where my vote will go...except if you expressedly say you don't want to be voted.

Ok, time to sleep! See everyone!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Sunday, December 16, 2001 06:45:55 PM
IP: 213.213.18.158

HEY EVERYONE! i'm gonna actually reply to people today! ^^

Jan: <>

;) i got to go see him this summer! had pretty decent seats too! he gives a pretty good concert. too bad ya missed em.

<<Anna, my daughter, discovered that a Twinkie had actually molded in her room today. I informed her that was just soooo wrong and it was definitely was time to clean her room.>>

i actually keep my room kinda clean, but i just have never gotten rid of those jelly beans. i guess i always thought i would eat them eventually.

<<There are certain procedures that you will need to do to ensure that they still cannot be stolen, so when you are ready– let me know and I’ll pass along the information that their attorney has given them. =)>>

hey thats really cool! thad be great! it will probably be a couple of years though. and i don't know anything about getting things copywriten. so, any info i could get on the subject would be great! i'd appreciate it!

DPH: <<The CR does not reset itself automatically>>

i get that, i was just more asking if it was goin to be reset that day at all, i wasn't sure if it was saturday night, or sundays that it was cleared.

hmm... and i finally noticed that you spelled my name incorectly...again. reading back through the weeks, i see i over looked one of your replies to me, and you said "how many times do i have to mispell your name to get your attention" or something along those lines. sorry bout that ;) i'll read closer to stuff now.

Fire Storm: <<It sucks that Echos was their last album.>>

was that really suppost to be thier last album?! i didn't know that! that kinda sucks! i don't know very much about pink floyd, are they still together? or is this being thier last album, have they broken up? or have they been broken, and i just didn't know? i really didn't get into pink floyd till a few months ago. i wish i coulda gone to the wall tour. all those freaky pupets and stuff. that woulda been fun. *sigh* but i wasn't alive back then

Christine: <<got the wrong mom there ... it's Crzy who has 12-year-old daughters. Mine's only seven ; )>>

LOL. heh, my mistake! you musta been replying to her er something. thats cool. lol

WOOT WOOT! I MADE REPLIES! SNOWBALLS FOR EVERYONe!!!!

...WAIT!!! i'm in kansas! -.- WE HAVEN'T GOT ANY SNOWBALLS YET! all we gots is... rocks... but that would hurt... sooo... everyone gets... DIRT CLAUDS!!

well, that be my post fer today!

shine on all you crazy diamonds!

-={Terrky, the Efficient Rock Star}=-

Terrky K - [rock_star_x11@yahoo.com]
Kansas
Sunday, December 16, 2001 06:12:39 PM
IP: 63.252.221.26

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Anonymous
Sunday, December 16, 2001 05:51:37 PM
IP: 63.252.221.26

Hey guys,

I think it's been a while since I posted anything, so I thought some of you might be interested in my lastest little project.

So, anyone still faithfully watching Enterprise? Anyone else notice the over abundance of caves on the show? After all, five of the first ten episodes featured caves, secret underground facilities, catacombs, large chasms, cavern-like structures, the hint of caves, or the threat of caves. It's been mentioned by quite a few people besides me. But I appear to be the first to try and do something about it...

I started an online petition asking for them to do something about the excess of caves in the show. I'm sure it's about as likely to have an effect as the petition to change the song, but I'm doing it anyway. Anyone care to throw in their support? Click the name link...

Skippy The Klingon
Sunday, December 16, 2001 05:45:12 PM
IP: 209.245.243.89

Jannie > we wouldn't presume to ask a lady's age ; )

Spacebabie > yes, seven ... it does not seem that long ago! Now I've got a kid who can read.

Shadowrider > thank you; it is nice to know that AvMists is well-regarded and I hope that whoever takes over next will carry on.

AvMists > update on this coming soon; I think in the interest of fairness it'll be best to let the readers decide who should be next.

Wow, what a weekend! Five nights off in a row! I've gotten a lot done, and tomorrow I will be ferrying Tim to a gruesome dental surgery appointment (had to take tonight off because they won't let him drive home or basically do anything after). Tim's sis arrives later this week and then the wild rumpus begins!

Snowball fight > enh, best I can do is a handful of chilly rain. Water balloons, anyone?

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, December 16, 2001 04:36:00 PM
IP: 64.24.35.193

Terrky> <<i'm surprisingly awake. i'm rather hyper. i'm in a happy type of a mood too. i have become comfortably numb! NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!
JAVA JIVE!>> *L* been hitting the eggnog early ? ;)
I’m not much of a Pink Floyd fan – even though I do like a couple of their songs, I’m definitely a fan of the Beatles. However, I prefer their music pre-yellow submarine days ;) The only time I really listen to music is while I’m in my car or at work. I enjoy music, just never seem to think of turning on the radio or listening to CD/cassettes while at home. I love Rod Stewart, though! *drools* Unfortunately, I moved from Houston before I had the opportunity to attend one of his concerts =(
I like a variety of music, but I’m more inclined to listen to “oldies” – mainly because I can understand the words and I actually know the lyrics! *L*
<<i just realized... i got these really old jelly beans. from like a year ago. i stopped eating them one time, when i got strep throat, and the thought of eatin them made me sick... so i haven't touched em since then.>> Anna, my daughter, discovered that a Twinkie had actually molded in her room today. I informed her that was just soooo wrong and it was definitely was time to clean her room.
<> a friend of mine’s husband has written some lyrics and have sent them to be copyrighted. There are certain procedures that you will need to do to ensure that they still cannot be stolen, so when you are ready – let me know and I’ll pass along the information that their attorney has given them. =)
<<"Jesus: the reason for the season">> amen.

Spacebabie> <<Nope Jan is too mature to do that>> awwww, thanks! *hugs* However, I hope that you are not insinuating that I’m OLD! ;p

*picks up a handful of snow forming it into a large snowball & chunks it towards Spacebabie but missing terribly – hitting Josh upside the head*
oops! Hehehe Hey California Boy, that’s not anthrax – that’s SNOW!! ; )

*runs away giggling, stopping behind DPH* Hide me?

Patrick> <<but it hasn't snowed here in Cleveland yet>> really?? Wow. We’ve had it snow once so far. I wasn’t impressed. I hate snow. We’ve had unusually warm weather so far so I hope that we’re not way-layed come January or February.
I talked to my best bud in Houston today… he said that it was 70 degrees and very muggy there right now. Sometimes I really miss Houston *nods*

Shadowrider> HI! I’m sorry.. I’ve been a bit preoccupied lately and haven’t really had a chance to become *too* involved with conversations and/or posts. It’s good to see you again, as always :) I’m not familiar with “Hitler’s willing executors” – what is it?

Firestorm> oops, I first typed out “firestone” hehe *coughs* anyway…
Ah, man, this post is CRAP!" *GRUNT* "Nope, that was me!"
ROFLMAO!
Mmmm... North American Cockroach... Look at those legs... Oh baby!
*still laughing* that’s sick, dude! I love it! ;p

DPH> <<You know we only have 15 days left in the year, or 9 days until Christmas.>> Dang! I need to look at the calendar more often! I didn’t realize it was all so close *falls over*

Nukes> <<its good to hear that jan is not anything like lynati. >> *waves hand in the air* hello? I’m right here… you can talk directly to me if you wish … I won’t bite… well, not often ;) It’s not a matter of being like Lynati or not – I just don’t have any issues with you. What is going on between you and Lynati is between the two of you. *shrugs* But, hopefully that is all water under the bridge now and we can all move on to some other flame war…. *L*

Christine and Crzy> kids that are 12 and 7… my baby is 19 now… *looks around* Hey! I gave birth to him when I was like 12 or something! (strong emphasis on “something”) ;) Don’t bother trying to figure it all out – I’m not giving my age to anyone,
thankyouverymuch. ;p

Josh> <<If by trial you mean public hanging by his testicles, then yes.>> we can always hope! <> then my work here is completed. ; )
Yeah, 84.9 is pretty darn cheap gas… here in town it’s around 95.9 but this summer it peaked out at around $1.70.

Daphne> *L* thanks for the links! Awww, don’t worry about the guys in here.. they are really a bunch of prudes ;)

Ok, gotta’ go again… we’re having our Christmas program at church tonight and I’m actually singing in the choir. For anyone who has heard me sing… *giggles* I sing in the key of M. ;D I actually just stand there and lip sync because I don’t want to throw everyone else out of key. Even Denis tells me that I’m a bad singer O_o
Jan - [janmiller@mo-net.com]
Sunday, December 16, 2001 04:11:26 PM
IP: 12.110.237.83

josh>> there sure is! check the link

DPH>> it's not the mistletoe itself that bothers me... I just don't want to force any of you boys to kiss me against your will.

[notices a sprig of mistletoe hovering overhead. lobs a snowballe at it, misses pathetically, then shrugs] oh well.
Daphne - [<--they dinky, they're pinky and the brain brain brain brain narf]
Sunday, December 16, 2001 03:09:09 PM
IP: 129.68.138.125

josh- <<Only would have cost me $250 to add it to my G4...but I needed that 250 to spend on my iBook>>

well, i only got my Geforce for gaming and nothing else. thats pretty much all i use my computer for. well, that and making idiotic posts in the tgs cr 8o)

<<I'm sure it rocks, and therefore its on my list. But I don't think I'll get any of the things on my list for quite some time. >>

yeah its good. but there are other cards out there that can compete with the 'Force at a lower price. yeah, good luck with getting the stuff you want/need.

terrky- i got your email, but im not sure if i got your reply to the last one you sent me with your old address. resend it??

spacebabie- <<Nope Jan is too mature to do that…>> its probobly just lynati and 2 other people (her BIG group of friends!!!). but, i dont care.

its good to hear that jan is not anything like lynati.

<<Now Crzy on the other hand::: Gets into a playful mood:: Yeah Crz I called you immature. Neener neener. :: throws a snowball at her.>>

takes one to know one!! 8)

Crzy- <<:P I know you are, but what am I!? Hee hee! :) LA LA LA! >>

LOL. we _so_ need a snowball fight.

oh, i really like your art. :D

patrick- <<throw some "50 and partly sunny" balls instead :: >> ahhahahhahahahah. thats good.

Shadowrider- <<yesterday I returned on Battle.net for the first time in more than a year (naturally my old account had expired...I had to create a new one, and I discovered that while I was away someone stole my old battle name...>>

what was your old battle.net name? maybe i played with you before. more than a year? wow you better get going. i wouldnt be surprised if you forgot your basic build order!!! :)

<<a terrific defeat, by a fellow Terran player>> terran v terran? what units did you use? i bet they killed you with a horde of battlecruisers.. did they? thats the only reason people play tertran nowadays is for bcs.

<<It appears that I am more out of exercise than I suspected...anyway, it is still ok for me to play in the break. >>

what day and channel should we meet in? what time? are you in the new england time zone?

DPH- <<DPH opens a large portal above NukesGoBoom, letting 10 pounds of snowballs fall on him. >> aw, thanks for the thought.

NukesGoBoom
Sunday, December 16, 2001 02:56:58 PM
IP: 12.243.67.212

**DPH yawns as he sees snowballs being thrown in the CR. DPH opens a large portal above SpaceBabie, letting 20 pounds of snowballs fall on her. DPH opens a large portal above NukesGoBoom, letting 10 pounds of snowballs fall on him. DPH opens a large portal above Patrick, letting 5 pounds of snowballs fall on him. DPH opens a patrol above Shadowrider, letting 5 pounds of snowballs fall on him, just to prevent Shadowrider from feeling left out.**

Why bother throwing snowballs when you just drop them.

**DPH disappears from the CR dand a hologram of DPH appears.**

DPH sent me to ensure that he couldn't be hit with snowballs.

You know we only have 15 days left in the year, or 9 days until Christmas.

Terkky - The CR does not reset itself automatically.

Daphne - don't worry: my new holographic mistletoe is guaranteed not to mutate and bite/swallow anyone.

Imzadi - <Too bad it wasn't a spelling book> I possess a large bound College Spanish/English dictionary. Yep, I can look up spellings of words. <It's time to cut off their legs?> Ok, if I ever hear of possessing animals, I will have to call the Humane Society on you. It means I need to trim some tree limbs to prevent from reaching the roof.

Fire Storm - <Gotta string more electric shock tiles on the roof.> If I hear about you owning an animal, I'm calling the Humane Society for that response.

Wilek - do me a favor and post three times a week.

Silvadel - The Olympics are spelled O-L-Y-M-P-I-C-S not Olypics. I believe they should split the coverage between 3-4 networks, which each one covering different events.

For all you sports fans, the Scottie Pippin graduated from the University of Central Arkansas with a bachelor's degree.

**Babylon 5 Spoilers**
I was just thinking what would happen if Earth Force happenned to find Babylon 4 before the folks from Babylon 5 did. What exactly would the Minbari say? They 'borrowed' it to help win a war in the past?
**END BABYLON 5 SPOILERS**

The hologram of DPH leaves the room.
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, December 16, 2001 01:42:51 PM
IP: 204.94.193.36

Imzadi: <LOL. My dad would like you. He hates our cats too. And this was much better than my suggestion (see above).>
Yeah. Chop off their legs and all they do is wiggle and still annoy you. Shock them and it will teach them a lesson. Like spraying them with water... or napalm.
As for the electric shock, I want to do that to the neighborhood children too.
<You gambler you!>
Well, just about everything I do in here is against company policy, so screw them.
<A fact that is made VERY clear to her audience>
Yep. If she is a virgin...
<The booze>
Nope. The dentist. It will be more fun.
<Dude, you cannot let your woman control your net connection. First law of male geekdom: "Thou shalt have no rulers before the net connection".>
Yeah, I know, but the fact that I already emptied my CAT-5 spool dosn't help either. I gotta find me some nice STP CAT-5 spools...
<There is NOTHING like posting from the toilet. The unbridled feeling of freedom>
"Ah, man, this post is CRAP!" *GRUNT* "Nope, that was me!"
<If its for scientific/research purposes, fine. If its for sexual excitement...::shudder::>
Mmmm... North American Cockroach... Look at those legs... Oh baby!
<All he did was split a single hydrogen nucleus. Its only radioactive if you split something into unstable isotopes (like, say...uranium ;-))>
How can you split HYDROGEN? There is nothing to split! And if they split a proton... well, there would be quite a bit of radiation!
<A complete waste of time. Better spent pooping.>
Well, it helps the pooping.

Terrky: <SHINE ON ALL YOU CRAZY DIAMONDS!!!>
It sucks that Echos was their last album.

Spacebabie: <Lay off the fiber>
But the fiber is the BEST! What else transmits at over 1 gbps?

Wilek: <Ah. Guess it's a last-ditch thing. Apparently such situations aren't as common as I thought. O_o>
Probally. On the planets that the Hierarchy have left, I have left an egg bearer OR I made all of them capable of giving birth to live ones. But that was only twice.
<BTW, may I arrange an interview with you, perhaps over e-mail, as regards your species' biology and mentality?>
Biology and mentality? Maybe.
<I sense unprecedentedly fascinating insights within you. Perhaps you could talk about yourself--how you came to be sentient, why you're so different from the average xeno, why you're gendered and they aren't?)>
That stuff, on the other hand, no. My agent has told me not to give out that information until I secure a publisher and have the books published.
<This can only be done in multiplayer? Frell>
Only in the online multiplayer server based games (Everquest, etc)
<Wait... Does that mean the seller doesn't get to keep a copy of the weapon?>
That is correct.
<Cool. Hmm...I've heard rumours that Mars is not in fact a planet, but a very old and very advanced starship that has long since fallen into disrepair. Have you found anything to confirm or deny this?>
I am still trying to get there. But my info says that at the very most it is just a planet with ancient tech buried deep. Phobos and Deamos, on the other hand...
<unless they take Matrix' route, and that is very dangerous>
And that cannot be allowed to happen.
<Does it then? Where do you think I am? Because I can assure you, if you look for me there, however thoroughly, you won't find me>
All things will be revealed.
<By whose standard?>
Mostly by observation. I look at the people who seem to have a near-violent aversion to all things sexual and see that the overwhelming portion of those people do have other serious mental problems. Oversexuality may be bad too, but an aversion to it, to the point where it is seen as a crime, can be much, MUCH worse.
<Not unless they're thieves or something, and most women are too smart to be thieves anyway>
Or, if they are theives, they are smart enough to get away with it.
Also, what's up! You have been posting almost FREQUENTLY in here!
Fire Storm
Sunday, December 16, 2001 01:10:15 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Oh, well, here again...seems that no matter my midterms are over, I cannot do better than one post per week.

Do you know what is really depressing? When you are away form the CR for a week, you return and you see there are just two replies for you.

By the way, I see nobody replied to my comment about "Hitler's willing executors". Possible I am the only one who read it inside here?

Welcome to all newcomers, and welcome back to everyone reappeared after a while of absence.

Christine:> Ok, I am late about it, but I want to say that I like a lot Avalon Mists as it is now. Naturally, I am in the fandom from a relatively short time, so my opinion has not that much weight, but I think you are doing a great job. And, incidentally, the two people you mention for replacing you are IMO exactly the kind of persons who could in a very short time destroy the fanzine as it is supposed to be, changing it in a place for wreaking personal grudges. As far as I'm concerned, you are perfect for the place, and I hope you'll remain at AvMists for a long time.

Global Warming:> I am quite late on this tpoic as well, but I still feel to put my view. IMO, denying the global warming problem is not only wrong, but is dangerous self-indulgence. Human activities are putting into the atmosphere huge quantities (far superior to the quantity produced by natural events) of CO2, whose effect as a "hothouse gas" are confirmed beyond any considerable doubt. Add to this the increasing extension of urban areas (I've read just a month ago a study about the increasing of average temperatures in big cities), and you obtain a big problem. We have not studied climate long enough? Maybe...but we have learned a lot in this time. Archeology and geology can tell us a lot about climate in ancient and even prehistoric eras, and about how quickly it changed in history. And, what is emerging from studies is that climate on Earth IS changing, and in a dramatically faster way than in any past era (with the obvious exception of great catastrophes, like huge meteors falling). Human activities ARE changing the climate. Global warming IS a problem. And humanity is supposed to face it before it is too late.

Nukes:> <<keep practicing brood war! >> It's weird that you mention it...yesterday I returned on Battle.net for the first time in more than a year (naturally my old account had expired...I had to create a new one, and I discovered that while I was away someone stole my old battle name...), and I inaugurated my new account with...a terrific defeat, by a fellow Terran player. It appears that I am more out of exercise than I suspected...anyway, it is still ok for me to play in the break.

Josh:> <<Don't worry, I think we're done.>> You sure?
<<HIV exam>> Glad to know you are clean. It means that if there will be the chance I will introduce you to my prettiest cousin with no regrets or worryings about
consequences...;)
Congrats on your finals! Keep the engineers' name up!
<<GeForce3>> Hmm...it is a common wish, I suspect...
<<A controlling share of MicroSoft>> UGH!
<<Hot chicks>> Hey, you just have to ask! <takes out his pocket diary> What's your preferences, pal? Blondes, brunettes, romantics, femminists, tall, short? We got for all tastes...

Niamhgold:> <> Ok, hold on a moment...<takes out a cellphone and speaks at low voice for a few minutes>...very well, a special assault squad is heading at your location and will reach you within the hour. I suggest you to free the hostage NOW, and there will not be bloodspread...;D
<<finals kind of had me swamped >> I know the situation...no worry, take your time. Doing good finals must be your priority now. How was your portfolio review?

Ok, I think it is everything I had to say (more or less...). See everyone!

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Sunday, December 16, 2001 12:26:13 PM
IP: 213.213.100.103

:: peeks in ::

Normally, I would pelt everyone with a barrage of snowballs, but it hasn't snowed here in Cleveland yet. :: throw some "50 and partly sunny" balls instead ::
Patrick Toman
Sunday, December 16, 2001 12:23:28 PM
IP: 66.72.194.174

Spacebabie - :P I know you are, but what am I!? Hee hee! :) LA LA LA!
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:54:58 AM
IP: 63.28.181.152

Yep, man time does fly. About one month after Christmas I turn 33.

I think the fact that it was summer this december in the USA made a big difference in people losing track of time... This has been one of the warmest November to December periods on record. I'll take the warmth when I can get it but how can you have christmas on your mind when it is 65 degrees outside?

The country has been semi-limboed since 911 anyway.

I actually hope the olypics resets people. Gets their minds off the whole thing enough to start living again.

Of course the coverage of the olypics in the USA stinks... I want to see the events... I want to see the top 24 skaters. I do not want the life story of the top 5 and the life story of all the americans and a choreographed summary of the events.

silvadel
Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:34:08 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Enters the CR in Ripley's Exo Armor. She aim the weapons at the missletoe as it slinks closer to Daphne

Get away from her you Bitca! :::Fires:::

Yay I'm dones with my wrapping, Yay I got my grades back, two B's I would have had an A in one if I didn't come in late those few days...Stupid traffic

Christmas is only 9 more days away, Christmas Eve is only 8.
The first day of winter is 5 more days.

Entertainment stuff.....

Alien Ant Farm, I love this band, I especially love their video for Movies.

Britney Spears is gonna go in the buff for PETA, of course Brtiney isn't really doinbg it for PETA, but just an excuse to take it off. C'mon the girl is a Shill, She shills for Pepsi and drinks Coke.

Holiday Movies,specials...I also love wataching a Nightmare Before Christmas, Gremlins, and Scrooged as well as the Charlie Brown Christmas.(I'm trying to be like Xander and try to do the Snoopy dance.) I also love the Grinch, not Jim Carrey's movie but the classic one, The South Park holiday episodes and the Sailormoon S movie, I have the subbed version and its a hoot to hear Tuxedo Kamen shout "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year." In English.

and now for something completly different.

Nukes<<<an - yeah, i know alredy that you guys make fun of me on IM and such (if thats what your talking about). >>>Nope Jan is too mature to do that…Now Crzy on the other hand::: Gets into a playful mood:: Yeah Crz I called you immature. Neener neener. :: throws a snowball at her. ::

THE FIRST SNOWBALL FIGT OF THE CR HAS OFFICALLY BEGUN!

Christine<<<got the wrong mom there ... it's Crzy who has 12-year-old daughters. Mine's only seven>>> Becca is seven? I knew she recently had a birthday but seven? My they do grow fast, and I say that because my neighbors younins are four and almost seven. I can remember when they were two and five, and now they have a ten month old brother.

Firestorm>>> Lay off the fiber.

Wilek>>> Good DC death, err torture.

Jan<<>>That’s a touching story. I need to read more of those.

Sorrow<<>>I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it will beat Titanic.

Grabs another handful of snow and makes another snowball.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Florida
Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:55:57 AM
IP: 65.57.80.144

Gray> <<Mooncat, you got it right the first time. It's not your fault those before you had been up too long to count coherently.>> ummmm no. It doesn't count if someone posts twice. She was correct with the 2nd count that she gave.
For example: Josh posted first and then within the "countdown" he posted again with a real post... his 2nd post doesn't count towards the countdown.
So yeah, we're quite capable of counting correctly ;)
Jan
Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:13:38 AM
IP: 12.110.236.169

Top 10, #10, I believe.
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:11:10 AM
IP: 204.94.193.26

10th Amazing....
silvadel
Sunday, December 16, 2001 09:51:49 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

-howling to wake those who might be dozing at their keyboards-

ELEVENTH!!!!

Mooncat, you got it right the first time. It's not your fault those before you had been up too long to count coherently.
Gray - [mimirr@hotmail.com]
Lost city, Of Confusion
Sunday, December 16, 2001 09:46:09 AM
IP: 216.243.8.251

7
Lurking Fish
Sunday, December 16, 2001 09:26:44 AM
IP: 64.228.193.186

Sixth!! =)
Jan & Denis
Sunday, December 16, 2001 08:45:06 AM
IP: 12.110.236.169

hey everyone.

time for a useless bit of info... Pink Floyd is a very very wierd band. BUT I LIKE EM!

YES! i'm still awake, and yes i am very bored. i got my Pink Floyd cd. its that new echoes er whatever. tis good!

i'm surprisingly awake. i'm rather hyper. i'm in a happy type of a mood too. i have become comfortably numb! NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!NUMB!

JAVA JIVE!

can ya believe theres only like 9 more days till christmas. er something like that. i dunno, i been awake fer a lotta hours. woooo

did ya know i'm currently choking on a piece of candy? ouchies! shoulda chewed it up afore i swallowed it o.o
i need to get something to drink. brb

i feel better now.

wouldn't want the Efficient Rock Star to die now would we??? *doesn't get a very positive response from everyone*
o.o

i hate winters in kansas. it's either really frikin cold, or not cold at all. so, when it starts to get really frikin cold, and may posibly start to snow er something, it starts to get warm again, and it stays all gray, and cloudy, and all-around blah.

BTW, does HTML work on here?

4:46 am. *sigh* at least i don't have to wake up for anyting today. i plan to sleep all day.

can't wait till christmas break.

speaking of christmas again, i got this really crazy friend. she has converted to wicca. but she doesn't quite understand that, in not being christian, she can't very well celibreate christmas for what it is. she says "so, in 100 years, no one is gonna remember what christmas is all about, it's just a comercial holiday" i say, it wouldn't be a comercial holiday if people like her weren't celebrating it for the wrong reason. how does it go? oh yeah "Jesus: the reason for the season"

ya know, this echoes cd doesn't have dark side of the moon on it. i have a bad bootleg copy of that song, i was hoping it would be on here. *sigh* but it isn't.

i have sat here for about 10 minutes... i have no life. i need something to do! i could try to sleep... but that would be too easy.

imma just keep typing... heck, not many people read my posts anyway.

theres not much to reply to.

this candy sucks. it's full of air holes and keeps cutting the roof of my mouth. ouchies x11

it's a trademark with me and my friends to use x11. (times 11) but for really big stuff, you use squared, or cubed. anything more than that is too big, and is therefore, unbelieveable. o.o

the only thing i really wanted for christmas was a keyboard. i wanna play pianoooooooo. as soon as i get one, i'm gonna learn to play it (duh) and i wanna compose bunches of midis. happy happy midis, not bad ones.

i wrote a song about time travel, yes i did. but everyone thinks it's very loose. untill you get my explanation of it, then it all makes sense. kinda... i mean, it's about time travel. does it have to make sense?

i even wrote one about moutain dew... o.o imma write the music to it, and sell it to the company, and make millions and millions of dollars!!! o.o

yep, it is a fact, i have written songs. but i'm currenly learning to read music. the music to those 13 songs is far from complete, but thats what college, and my lessons are for. i still got 2 and a half years left of high school. may not be as far as i think. ya never know. but i aint givin my lyrics to anyone, cause i'm paranoyed. like, really. i mean, anyone can use em if i post em anywhere. ANYWHERE. i aint posting anything till i get em copywriten er something like that.

i just realized... i got these really old jelly beans. from like a year ago. i stopped eating them one time, when i got strep throat, and the thought of eatin them made me sick... so i haven't touched em since then.

*yawn* i've been sitting here for almost an hour. O.o i have become... really tired. just typing whatever comes to mind every now and then.

i think i'll try to go a little longer. THE EFFICIENT ROCK STAR HAS SO MUCH TO SAY, SO MUCH TO GIVE. *no body really cares* sigh. o.o

although, in actuality, i really don't have as much to say. otherwise i would post alot more often, and reply alot more to what people say. i guess i'm just too shy (?) NAH. i just need to try to be a little more social. and not so... like... typing stuff, and not replying at all... o.o ... i'm not makeing any sense.

comfortably numb has came on!!! WOO WOO! this is my favorite song EVER... by Pink Floyd at least. i have become comfortably numb... i think the translation of that may be i'm so high, that i can write a cool song that makes not much sense, but just sounds good. actually, i wouldn't know if it doesn't make any sense... i haven't paid close enough attention to the lyrics. when i first listened to this, it was late at night, and i was in bed about to fall alseep. and now, so, i'm goin to have to listen to this again.

have i talked enough about Pink Floyd? i dunno, there is just something about good music that makes me wanna talk about it alot. know how that goes?

i just thought of something that would suck... if i pushed the "Clear" button instead of "Submit" *everyone goes "oh, yeah terrky, that would suck"* o.o

OK, i can take a hint! no one likes to read through a buncha crap that i typed just because i'm bored outta my mind!!

oh, my goodness! i'm talking to myself now! oh, well, i don't exactly pride myself on being sane.

my cd just ended. time to put cd one back in!

well, i'm tired enough now, that i think i can go to sleep. and end my post.

i hope veryone has a great holiday!!!

SHINE ON ALL YOU CRAZY DIAMONDS!!!

-={Terrky, the Efficient Rock Star}=-
Terrky K - [rock_star_x11]
Kansas
Sunday, December 16, 2001 06:30:13 AM
IP: 63.252.221.115

I mean 5th ... *^_^*

Mooncat
Sunday, December 16, 2001 05:34:18 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Sixth *^_^*
Mooncat
Sunday, December 16, 2001 05:32:59 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

FOURTH?
Terrky K
Sunday, December 16, 2001 05:08:06 AM
IP: 63.252.221.115

THIRD! Real post later.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Sunday, December 16, 2001 04:14:15 AM
IP: 213.255.22.34

Heh heh. I woke up at 7AM for my final. I finished in less than 2 hours, and decided to go...right back to sleep. I woke up for the second time around 130 or so. This is a good theme, I think.

I flat out refused to study today. I have all day tomorrow and all day monday, and the exam isn't till tuesday night. And I get a cheat sheet to boot.

I think I did pretty well on this one. It was VERY similar to the practice final, and what was different was left on my calculator's memory.

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Nukes: <<yes, the GeForce3 is a good choice. i have one now and it OWNS>>: Only would have cost me $250 to add it to my G4...but I needed that 250 to spend on my iBook. I'm sure it rocks, and therefore its on my list. But I don't think I'll get any of the things on my list for quite some time.

Jan: <<I'm helping my brother buy coats for children this year>>: That's really nice of you two. I'm sure the children appreciate it. <>: I am personally offended by that ;-) <<he will be brought to some kind of justice.... one that will not require a trial in the United States, if you know what I mean>>: If by trial you mean public hanging by his testicles, then yes. <>: what a nice person. <>: Is gas that cheap?! I haven't driven in weeks, so I don't know.

DPH: <<acted like somethign was wrong with my keyboard>>: Maybe it is. Keyboards are pretty cheap (both in price and quality). <<Material things aren't the things I want the most>>: Ah, but that doesn't mean you aren't interested in them. <>: Too bad it wasn't a spelling book ;-) <<My cats are walking around on the roof of my house. You know what that means>>: It's time to cut off their legs? <<Didn't Superman make his home away from home somewhere around the North Pole?>>: Why did I think it was the south pole?

FS: <<gotta string more electric shock tiles on the roof>>: LOL. My dad would like you. He hates our cats too. And this was much better than my suggestion (see above). <<against company policy>>: You gambler you! <<most of the time she dosn't wear any underware at all>>: A fact that is made VERY clear to her audience. <<Guess which one I picked>>: The booze. <<LM is against me putting a lan connection in the bathroom>>: Dude, you cannot let your woman control your net connection. First law of male geekdom: "Thou shalt have no rulers before the net connection". <>: There is NOTHING like posting from the toilet. The unbridled feeling of freedom. <<Some people collect dead animals and insects. How are underpants any different>>: If its for scientific/research purposes, fine. If its for sexual excitement...::shudder:: <<Half down, half on delivery>>: Half on tuesday. <<Wouldn't that beer have been quite radioactive?>>: All he did was split a single hydrogen nucleus. Its only radioactive if you split something into unstable isotopes (like, say...uranium ;-)) <<that's what I was thinking>>: Of course it was. Great minds think alike. <<my math was off>>: And foolish me for not checking it. <<pooping schedule>>: LOL. <<Discuss eastern philosophy with world leaders>>: A complete waste of time. Better spent pooping.

Alan: <<It might help if you do a lot of drugs before hand>>: Hmmm...maybe pass on this one? I didn't need drugs to enjoy Fight Club, or Pulp Fiction, or Dude Where's My Car?

Wilek: Welcome! Isn't this like twice in one week? Do me a favor and don't post again before tuesday? ;-) <<DC deaths>>: Shouldn't you take your issues up with Earthlink? <<Fluffers' are people who work in porn flick studios; their job is to get the male stars into, um, working condition>>: Oh, right. I knew that. <>: I'm sure it is. But do you think its higher or lower than the guy who goes around the Singapore Zoo and collects sperm samples from elephants (the, um, hard way). <<Everyone's an idiot about something. The smart ones admit it>>: No, the smart ones keep others from discovering it. <<Not too many girls like to be drooled over>>: I can't figure that out. I wouldn't mind being drooled over. <<Frighteningly enough, they can well afford it>>: Many times over. <<The ones who haven't gone on the job yet>>: Supposedly some are very careful. High-cost escorts, for example. <<hands you Britney and a hunting knife> Have fun>>: ::chucks hunting knife:: <<Then what is>>; I'd actually like to think its patience. Which is why I don't have any. <>: Your visions in the CR are far more gruesome. Much better than the standard "head on a pike". <<How are virgins and non-virgins any different in terms of ability to rule?>>: The thought of someone who didn't know about pleasures of the flesh ruling on important issues like free condoms in schools and such things...scares me. <<Anything done without mutual informed consent>>: Like, say, me showing up in the CR? ;-) <<There are a LOT of four letter verbs>>: But not many work in that space. <<Freud belonged in an asylum>>: And snorted enough coke to kill a horse. <<No matter how many times I encounter evidence of this, I always forget it>>: I'm thinking of having it tatooed on my arm so I don't forget. <<Um, yes they do>>: Actually they don't...its a physics thing. See, "sucking" doesn't exist in the world of physics...which is why I stay away from that field...no fun. <<The more I hear about the stupid thing, the less I like it>>: Kind of like my attitude of windows. <<Did you know that you have to buy a peripheral in order to play DVDs on the thing>>: Yes I did. Or, I can buy a dvd-player for $100 and get an N64, which has the only game I'll ever need to play, for $25. <<the X-Box's hard drive has to be periodically defragmented. This from A FRELLING CONSOLE>>: But dude...DOA3! <<How does one limit infinity?>>: Actually, you don't limit infinity itself, you find the limit of the function as the variables approach infinity. <<He didn't have to mate to make more of himself--look at Llal>>: But in "Naked Now" he was "fully functional". <<emulators such as ZSNES and WGENS?>>: There are several competing emulators of nearly every console for the mac. <<what about viruses? MacOS itself apparently can't fall prey to them, but what about VPC?>>: There are many viruses that do run on macs, but the fact that Mac's make up a scant 8% of the market means that most hackers don't waste their time. Also, mac viruses account for less than 1% of all computer viruses. As for VPC, yeah, you can get viruses...and then you delete the VPC hard drive file (which is really just a disk image), reinstall, and go about your merry way, without having any trouble on the rest of your system that you use for productivity, web, whatever. <<are there any Macs out there with a disc drive that uses a tray rather than a slot?>>: Absolutely. Actually, only the iMac and Titanium Powerbook have slot-loading media drives. The iBook and G4 tower don't. Also, you can get an external firewire CD-ROM drive for those mini-CD's for a few bucks. I have no idea if mini CD's work in slot loading drives or not. My friend with a powerbook says "I don't know, and I wouldn't want to try it". And of course, those are only the current models. Older powerbooks have tray-CD drives as well. <<More and more tempting...>>: As soon as your ready, let me know. I'll help you get set up. <<But isn't it unconstitutional?>>: My hope is that the Supreme Court will notice, or if they don't, that some hacker group will point it out to them. But if they don't care, it slides anyway. <<I'd underestimated VPC's abilities. What is its compatibility rate?>>: ? The latest version of VPC (5) runs in both OS 9 and OS X, with the latest versions (9.2.2 and 10.1.1) recommended (those are free updates from whatever you'd get with a new mac though). Its optimized for dual-processors, though not for altivec-units (sadly, I have 6 of those in my machine). Granted, its not the fastest thing on the planet, but it gets the job done. And the revisions only get faster. I use it mostly for watching dirty movies that quicktime can't play, and I rarely have problems with skipping or any of that garbage. I mean, if you only use it to, say, play a game, then all your other stuff is probably off and there's lots of free resources to eat up. Its a REALLY powerful product. I think it starts at 150 for the PC-DOS version, and they also sell 98, 2000, Me versions, and an XP version is on the way. <<than trusting to some endorphin-induced epiphany>>: Don't worry, the epiphanies come AFTER the endorphin-rush, trust me. <<Hadn't anticipated that. Examples?>>: Suddenly, stupid stuff that used to annoy us didn't matter any more. We had more confidence (not just with women, but in general). We were more laid back (no pun intended). It was...nice. I can't be more specific than that, sadly. But this effect does eventually wear off...which is what leads to males' repeated efforts to score. <<Gotta watch that more often--especially after Butters' episode and the Christmas with Chuck Manson>>; Hated the former, loved the latter. <<I've never gone skydiving, but I know more than enough about it to know that it isn't worth the risk>>: But you also don't know the rush you get from it. I'm sure skydivers would give you a different opinion. <<I'm thinking zeni/zenny/however it's spelled>>: Why that? <<it wouldn't extend the range of vision somehow. Maybe what causes it to flouresce is infrared light, making it sort of a night-vision?>>: I don't think it would...but the flourescence would make for some additional light around the eyes, which would improve vision in the dark. <<At the cost of the patient's life. Not a good idea>>; Bah, you're no fun. <>: Interesting. I avoid outlook like the plauge. I use mail.app. (Mac OS X only). <<Something about it reminds me of a Gamecube>>: I can see the resemblence. If you crave a bit more power, there's always the cube...which isn't selling anymore but can still be found. And I think new iMacs are due out this January, if speculation is to be believed. I'll be posting on MacWorld Expo from the floor next month, if you're interested. <>: I remember first seeing it in Sharper Image for like $400 or something rediculous. <<Ah frell>>: And now, the FBI says it exists. We are all f*cked now. <<Sometimes you have to turn something inside out to understand how it works>>: I prefer to dismantle it. <<Everything must be justified>>: Even the CR? <<this research is just controversial enough that posting it here would be an open invitation to start a flame war, and if there's anything I don't want, it's that. Can I do this over e-mail?>>: Knock yourself out. You know where to find me. <<They would, I should think>>: Again, "who cares"? ;-) <<Glad to hear it; I quite like you>>: You seem to be in the minority on that one ;-) <<Now join the side of the darkness of reason, and your HIV status will never change, one less thing to worry about>>: Thanks, but I actually ENJOY sex. I stay away from drugs and most alcohol, so that reduced my chances of contracting it via sheer stupidity/lapse in reasoning to near nil. And I always go in covered, so I should be good. I agree that it would be one less thing to worry about...but I've made it a goal to be more careful in selecting partners, be better about one-night stands, etc. I should be around for quite a while. <<please tell me Virtual PC has a really high compatibility rate and I will almost certainly make my next computer a Mac>>: I'm thinking. Virtual PC using outlook or whatever microsoft holes they use to transport the virus would still have the virus. But the virus would only infect the disk image, which is a small portion of your hard drive. Keep all your questionable material in the Mac environment...and you *should* be safe. Naturally, I'll be posting more on this as mac researchers look into this very issue. Besides, its highly unlikely that they'll be able to put together a virus that will work on macs anyway, since Mac users hate this kind of stuff as much as Linux users and will quickly put a fix in...if Apple doesn't develop the fix themselves. And since OS X is based on FreeBSD, the unix fix might just work on Macs ;-) <<Cool, they make those for Macs?>>: Actually, the GeForce3 was available for mac first. It is THE premiere card for Mac. The new bad-ass radeon (8500?) should be availabe for mac soon too. <<He's a species of alien about which we know next to nothing. Any biological insight is welcome>>: For you perhaps. I get my biological insight from dissection. <<Does that mean the seller doesn't get to keep a copy of the weapon>>: Yes. <<You underestimate the value of scientific objectivity>>: There's something to be said for experimenting on yourself ;-) <<If I see society obsessively engaging in something that runs directly counter to my goals and pressuring me to do the same, well, it's fair game for my ever so special brand of entertainment>>: Like, say...Wndows? <<Sacred cows make the best hamburger>>: I hear that! <<Wonder why I don't already have a Mac. Just lazy?>>: Its a big change, actually. I went from using a PC for 10 years before I got my first mac. At first, it was relatively simple: get laptop, steal MS Office 98 for Mac, so I could still read all my old files. It took me a whole semester before I'd converted all my word documents into AppleWorks docs, spreadsheets to Appleworks sheets, etc. Now I'm office-free, though I do have the new Office X disk image for a rainy day. Plus, you may have to replace some peripherals with ones that are mac-compatible...I had to buy a new printer, zip drive, mouse, etc...because my laptop was the 2nd computer in history to ship with USB standard, and naturally none of my PC parts were USB. So its a change. Laziness is an acceptable excuse. Although in light of Magic Lantern...not a very good one ;-) <<if the justice system has a brain in its head>>: It doesn't have a head. <<no one bothers to examine anything>>: Okay you are SUCH a mac user! <<most women are too smart to be thieves anyway>>; Not in THIS state. <<since for all its worship of technology, Hollywood is a touch old-fashioned when it comes to the actual process of making movies>>: FF would beg to differ. <<She was a reference to that very myth>>: Cuz everyone knows that females are also aphrodisiacs ;-) <>: Careful, your speeches might come out...nasty. <<to find that they're all bloated weeks-old zombies that are nymphomanic and enjoy the S half of S&M>>: Gross, dude. <<Why is she breeding sumo pigs?>>: Why not? <<War doesn't give a flip>>: Like I said, he's busy right now, but if you'll leave your name and number, he'll sow discord and violence in your country when he's free. <<In nomine luxem, quo destructus>>: Something about in light brings desctruction? <<You just described every localized sensory organ in the body, as well as the central nervous system>>: Yes, but most of those he could say in the CR without fear of retribution. <<When did that start, 1940s Germany?>>: Being conquered in 20 minutes probably doesn't help. <<Scrooged, Gremlins, and The Nightmare Before Christmas>>: The Ref. <<Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!>>: A little early? <<Nantucket>>: Dude, you ruined it!

Sorow: <<I'm finally going home tomorrow and I'm so excited!>>: I am so insanely jealous. I've got another 5 days. <>: I'm going to see it on wednesday...you?

The Wizard: Long time no see. <<although quite amateur>>: Although quite funny. <<leave at 4 am and you don't hit traffic. _Anywhere_>>: Depends on how long the drive is. If it puts you through LA, you hit traffic ;-) <<I'm so happy I could spit>>: ? <<will be skipping these flame wars>>: Good plan. I'm gonna try to adapt. <>: That long? Sheesh, you have less free time than me. <<Is underware like silverware? ;) Or some other...accessory?>>: LOL...how would one eat with underware? <<Novocaine just numbs your mouth. Chatting with the office regulars numbs the _brain_>>: I'd pick the brain...more opportunities for entertainment. <<I'm thinking of giving some earmuffs and mittens this time around>>: I'm too frikkin' cold in Berkeley to donate my warm clothes. <<Yummmmmm>>: It must be mine. Someday. <<of course, I still use it>>: For all that math you do in art class... <<the back has an interesting etching on it. The problems with being bored in AH class>>: Mine is covered with stickers. <<That's not particularly _bad_, you know>>: No, but I was shooting for an A. <<Somehow I find it out of character that "hot chicks" are listed at the bottom. I mean, I can see the GeForce3 being on top, but still>>: Well its a practicality list. I can't really buy hot chicks, and the most reasonable thing that I *can* buy is the GeForce3. If I bought the cinema display, I'd have a $1000 17" LCD ADC monitor sitting useless until I spent another $300 on a DVIator to use it...and I don't have the space for that anyway...so you see, its quite a boggle ;-) This is why I just ask for money. <<if you wish hard enough Santa might give you a little something anyways>>: Santa can't afford to give jewish kids presents too. His sleigh weighs quite enough. <<Hopefully it's not coal unless you want to heat a stove>>; I'd like to set my apartment ablaze, then it'd be warm. <<Not gonna say a word>>: LOL! <<There's just something about hardcover>>: I totally agree. I miss supercrown, where all hardcovers were 20% off. <<Apparently a responsible decision is repaid in full>>: As it should be. <<and am holding it hostage!>>: LOL! <<There once was a boy from Nantucket>>: !@#'$ !@#$ !@# !@ !@#$ !@ !@#$% !@#$ !@. !@ !@#$ !@#$ ! !@#$ !@#$% !@#$%^ !@# !@#$, !@ !@#$ !@# !@# !@#$%^ !'@ !@#$ !@. I love that limmerick ;-) <<didn't always take the precaution of a dust mask>>: Kindly do not die on us.

Daphne: <<A Pinky and the Brain Christmas>>: They have a P&B Christmas?! <<it's a big secret code>>: I see. <<unless you want a kiss, I'd advise you to not stand next to me>>: You shouldn't tempt single males like that ::pulls out a calculator and figures out point furthest from every mistletoe sprig, then moves to that point:: <<you never know whne misteltoe might pop up overhead>>: Mistletoe is the bane of all that is good and pure. And cheese. <<mistletoe is a parasite... and its name means "dung on a twig">>: How appropriate.

Hmmm...1AM, time to crash so I can wake up and study for stat tomorrow.

They've really got my balls in a vice grip.
-Mr. Tweek, South Park

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, December 16, 2001 04:02:13 AM
IP: 64.161.26.119

Second!!!!
Gavin
Sunday, December 16, 2001 03:50:13 AM
IP: 161.45.210.171

First!
Josh
Sunday, December 16, 2001 03:45:27 AM
IP: 64.161.26.119