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I live... barely.
Do you know what's really fun? Working at a Golf Club, then having the People in Charge decide that _now_ is the best time to tear down the clubhouse, and rebuild it. Sure, the clubhouse looked like the set of a REALLY low-grade 70's porn video, but still... I've spent the last four weeks packing boxes in one building, then going over to the temporary office (which is in the workshed, no less. When you think of a place with yearly subscriptions of several thousand dollars, a tin shed doesn't exactly spring to mind for the office, does it?) and then UNpacking the boxes. And the temperature's hit 40C recently, so you can imagine how much fun that's been. Ah well, I'll survive. Plus I get free reign on the golf buggys, and the four-wheel motorcycles and all the other motorised fun stuff in the workshed. These things were obviously never told by their makers that no, they are NOT 4WDs. Every cloud has a silver lining... :)

Of course, I'm so far behind on everything, I'm not even going to to try to catch up. I'll just make random comments to annoy everybody. ;)

Jan> All the best for Anna and Zach. A friend of mine was born on her laundry floor because she didn't give her mother a chance to get to the hospital. Let's hope Zach doesn't get the same idea. :)

Naimhgold> Sorry about your dog. I understand how you feel, better than I want to. Pippi, who's been a part of our family for over 12 years, died two nights ago. I still feel sick every time I look at the empty back yard.

Ghost of Rev. Attila> *ghost pats* Welcome back.

Shingami> *reads 'Tale of the Trip'* Awwwwww. You know, next time Aaron visits, maybe you should handcuff him to something so he can't escape, then you won't have to say goodbye. ;)

Lain> Bummer about the roommate. >this is it. ive had it. no more.< *gives her a Jerry Springer style 'You go, girl!*

FS and Ravyn> Good luck with the wisdom teeth. I had all of mine out about five years ago. I lived on custard for three days, looked like a chipmuck with a face full of acorns for a week, then everything settled down and all was good.

Josh> Oh man, your recent troubles sound horrendous. I know there's nothing I can say that'll fix it, but for what it's worth, I'm sorry you were so betrayed. Don't blame yourself, okay? You were as responsible as you could be, and, short of a vasectomy, guys really only have the option of a condom when it comes to contraception. I'm a big believer in the theory that BOTH parties should take responsibility for contraception, especially since none of them are 100% effective. Don't let this destroy your relationship with your current girlfriend, but since it's freaked you out so much, maybe you should discuss the possibility of her going on the pill, or something, just so there's a lot less chance of another scare. Nothing's completely safe, but the statistics get a lot better when you're using more than one form of protection. Just do me a favour and don't judge all females on your ex-girlfriend's behaviour. We aren't ALL psychos, liars, or Generally Bitchy. Well, not most of the time, anyway. ;)

SOROW> Hope things improve for you.

The 'detainies' or 'prisoners of war' debate.
Okay, I'm confused here. Could somebody please clarify something for me?
Were these guys fighting for Al Qaeda or the Taliban? If it's the second one, how come these fighters aren't fighting for their country? They were fighting for the same Taliban who were the GOVERNING BODY at the time of their capture, or they were when they started fighting (after that, I get the impression they decided they were neck deep in brown stuff and couldn't give up now). Just because they wrapped their policies in religion doesn't change the fact they were the Guys in Charge. I'm just not sure how that can be seen as fighting for a cause, instead of a country. That would be like saying that an American soldier who's in Afghanistan because Dubya sent an order through the ranks for him to fight isn't actually fighting for his country, because he's doing it on his president's orders. From what I can understand, Bush said he'd take down anybody who supported terrorism, the Taliban fit that description, they gave the US a diplomatic version of the finger when they were asked to hand over Osama, declared war, and since they were Afghanistan's Government at the time, how can it be said that the guys fighting for them weren't fighting for their country?
Could somebody explain the terminology to me? I'm not going to bother over their status, I just want to know if it's been decided exactly WHAT these guys were fighting for. Are they terrorists, or part of the army of their nation's former government?
Also, what's been done _wrong_, exactly? The treatment of the whateverthehellthey'recalled in the compound? Should they be held and trialed somewhere else? (oh yeah, let's send them back to Afghanistan... _that'll_ really improve their conditions... put them in the hands of the people they've mistreated for a decade). Have they been in some way mistreated?
I don't want to add to the debate, I'd just like an explanation because I've been fighting my own war with boxes, packing tape and dust bunnies the size of cement trucks for two weeks and I have no idea what's going on in the actual world.

Okay, I've got to go now - I'm going to watch Lord of the Rings at La Premier, where you pay extra $$ but get luxury seats and all the popcorn and softdrink you can consume! So I'll be seeing it in style with seven of my favourite not-family people :) Yea!
Fleur - [<-- Can't remember if I've mentioned this, but I updated my homepage!!]
Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:42:43 AM
IP: 203.25.148.61

Jan: <At work today we had a real Jerry Springer Show episode...>
And to think at one time I wanted to be a cop!
GIVEN, it would have meant that I would have had better things about work to talk about. ;)

Gside: <Lady Mystic, of course. I'm sure Fire Storm would remain in the middle>
Damn straight! Ain't no man besides me gonna touch LM! :)
<Even better: Warhamster 4000>
We need more pics like that.
<Not cut it off, shred it up>
It slices! It dices! It's the No-Go-Anal 2001!
<But you do know how infrequently I update my eden account>
True, but it means that I occasionally catch some good stuff.
<Like the esophagus>
I wonder when she is gonna get him for that.
<Might as well drive ther in a Hummer for good measure.>
Na. An ice cream truck. They won't be expecting that!
<Oh, but it is. It changes genres every episode>
I kinda guessed that. I mean, from the differences in even ONE video, I guessed that the series is rather chaotic.
<and Excel herself frequently dies>
"You give love a bad name" kinda demonstrated it. You got episodes of that series on your computer?
<Divx, with Overlay Video Renderer and YUY2 Overly color mode>
I figured it would be Divx. Why is that codec so popular?
<Not sure about the audio, but I got sound when playing it in WMP.>
Same. Just no video.

Imzadi: <Yet they're still using them. ::boggle::>
Windows may suck, but it runs a lot and it is compatible with most systems out there. Few people are with Windows because they like it. It just works (most of the time) and the systems that run it are relatively cheap.
<By giving everyone chicken pox?>
Yes! DAMN IT! You figured out my plan! Now I must have you disposed of!
"HANS! FRANS! Dispose of him. And use the... TRIPLE PLY BAGS!"
<Quite. Unless you find lengthwise slices along your member to be painless>
Hmm... Quad damage!
<Its a gift.>
And what a lovely gift!
<Or, just punish the owners. Shave them like they shave their dogs>
Hmm... Yes. That will do. BUT only if we get to glue fake fur on the ones that don't have enough.
<Mix two parts zombie with one part sugar>
2 ripe BRAINS... 2 Bananas... 1 part ARRRRRGH!
<But wouldn't you rather lose it and have something to show later? Like a machine to run OS X?>
Na. Money is useful. The other isn't.
<LOL! You have much better quotes than I do.>
I thank Planet Quake.

Spacebabie: <Can we adopt you?>
Well, I don't know... Remember what happened to the parakeet you promised to take care of?

"The following movie contains scenes of terrorism and may be disturbing
to some viewers.
Viewer discresion is advised."
The USA Network intro to the movie "The Seige"

You don't have to command to conquer. -mortar
Fire Storm
Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:31:06 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Okay, Let's see where to begin.

My foot hurts. probably because I finished cleaning my room. My GOD! I have a CARPET!!! I found the thing in my heating vent that melted. I still can't figure out what it was. I know there was a crayon in there at one point! I have to wait until summer to turn the heat on adn melt it with the window open. That means no heat for the winter. . . . =P Of course our house is weird. We are heated by electricity upstairs, gas downstairs, and wood in the living room.

I found a bunch of stuff that I forgot I had. Like my mom's nail clipper, some letters from my ex-girl ( kept them because we're friends now), some photos of pen pals I lost contact with, money. . . . lots of it, some art work I forgotten, some school reports from four years ago. . . . it's like a treasure hunt!

TALIBAN>>> The one thing i don't understand is how Bush's famous speeches about how "this is war!" "make no mistake we are at war. . " "war on terrorism" . . . has NOTHING to do with the current debate about wether or not the people in Cuba are prisoners of war or or not. He SAYS they aren't, but he also said that this was war. *sigh* I've given up long ago trying to figure the government out. I still think they should be there, in Cuba that is. But what to DO with them is the question. In the meantime I don't know what is really going on down there. If they are torturing them then that's bad, if they are treated like any other prisoner then okay. Now that Cuba is filled where are they gonna put the others? If there ARE others. Will they send them to Guam since that was an original candidate?

SargeAbernathy
Saturday, January 26, 2002 09:54:54 PM
IP: 205.188.193.43

<a disembodied smarmy smile appears in the room>

Angel: **SPOILING WISHES** Personally, I'm hoping Holzt will get wind of a certain Slayer in prison partly thanks to Angel, and think the possible recruitment opportunity is too good to pass up. Anything to have her back, even just for one episode! :) If it doesn't happen, someone's got to write the fanfic!!! :) **SPOILING WISHES END**

Golden Globes: If you watched more of Alias, SJ, you'd probably agree with me that Jennifer Garner deserves the award. She's been doing a fantastic job on that show and not just in the nice outfits they stick her in. Of course she is about to face a test every young star should dread having to take (can she match wits with Quentin Tarentino?) so she could fail that and I could be totally utterly wrong. <shrugs> We'll see.
<LOTR snub> Igor from Dork Tower reflected that people in Internet chatgroups who dis the LOTR movie because it didn't follow the book exactly, cut out Tom Bombadil, etc. are "one exit shy of Mordor." Judging by what I've read about critics and the Golden Globe judges in particular in relation to LOTR, the first Mordor exit probably goes to their digs. :)
<Rich's Globe> Orcs may not be available to snatch that from him, but I may be able to get some even better creatures to do it. <smiles towards a certain group of nine black-robed wraiths on steam-snorting horses who are silently waiting for the post to finish> We're still in negotiations as far as what's in it for them.
<Sissy Spacek opinion> You make me sick!!!
<Ben Affleck as Daredevil> As long as they don't cast Matt Damon as Bullseye or Foggy...

DPH: We used to be pals with Cuba back before Castro took over. The base was built back then on land we leased from the Cuban government of the time. Nowadays we are big superpower nation and Cuba is little not-that-powerful Communist relic nation. We can hold on to that base and there's not much they can do about it. Except refuse to accept all the lease checks we still pay, but that hasn't done anything to make us give up Gitmo yet.

Lady Mystic: Keep up the good work. Suggestion- Put those links at the top of the CR at the bottom too. That way one won't have to scroll back up when one needs to catch up on several weeks' worth of posts.

Christine: Another way to get Silversilk- order it thru a local Borders so you can use the gift card your Dad got you for Christmas. Just got my copy of it two days ago. Did you know this book is more than twice the size of any of your previous three? <glee>

Mooncat: Saw Brotherhood of the Wolf four nights ago. It was fantastic, if a little sleepy at times (maybe that was just cause I saw it late at night). No real Matrixy action in it, although some scenes do get pretty close. Glad I'm not the room's only Piffany fan! :)

Josh: Congrats on the good news from your girlfriend. Hell, congrats on having a girlfriend. I know you've wanted one a very long time. <jk>

Sarge: <BTW I love this Elisa Picture> That makes two of us.

Stephen: Alright! Hooray for you! Congratulations!! :)

Mara: <reads "The Trip in Review" post, grinning at all the mentions of sex and cursing as well as life details and promises of undying love> Sounds like you had a great trip, congratulations. But be careful. In small part because of posts like that, I am what I am now. <eerie maniacal laugh> <shower-related recommendation> You and I agree on something. Wow...

Must go watch Dr. No on ABC now. Later everyone!
<the smile fades away>
The Grinning Lurker
Saturday, January 26, 2002 08:12:00 PM
IP: 67.25.132.136

***** TGS CR INFO UPDATES/ANNOUNCEMENTS *****

The CR archive has been updated to include the week of January 12th-19th in the 2002 database.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/2002/

A new section, 'Concerns/Requests,' was added to CR Information to include the request guidelines I posted from last week. Please follow them when requesting or concerned with CR features.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/requests.html (formerly the URL for Archived Requests)

Pic Request Guidelines and the Archive of Pic Requests were revised and placed in the new section. Since I couldn't find the requested image, Daphne's pic request (thanks for following the instructions Daphne! :) ) was added to the list of unfulfilled requests. Daphne, your request was paraphrased. If you dislike how it was worded, please let me know at lady-mystic@usa.net.

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Navigation on every page within CR Information was revised to accommodate the new section.

No new polls for CR features are open but I did update the FAQ to a guidelines page in anticipation of future use.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/polls/guidelines.html

I AM NOW ACCEPTING CR MEMBER PROFILE SUBMISSIONS!

Yep, that's right! Before submitting your profile entry, please read and follow the guidelines page and the directions stated within the submission form. And please understand, due to various factors, everyone isn't eligible for this service. If you are turned down now, you may be eligible at a later time. (Thanks Siryn and Chris Rogers for all of your help! :) )

The submission form was also updated. A few new categories were added and some directions were simplified. You can access the page after reading the guidelines.

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Updates were made to the profiles and calendar sections. Sample profiles were moved to their own directory and graphical monthly calendars were updated to match the date placement of the year 2002. The text only events list was omitted and replaced with more appealing text based monthly calendars.

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And last but not least, a new entry documenting the opening of our new CR Info feature, Member Profiles, was added to the CR Timeline.

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***** END TGS CR INFO UPDATES/ANNOUNCEMENTS *****
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Head Admin of TGS CR Information
Saturday, January 26, 2002 06:27:34 PM
IP: 216.254.103.103

Why are captured al Qaeda fighters not considered to be "prisoners of war"? Click my name to read a column that I found to explain the reasons pretty well when I read it the other day.

The better question to ask, IMO, is why we're spending all this money to transport these terrorists halfway around the world for a tropical island vacation instead of just stringing up a nice electric fence around an acre or so of dry, barren Afghani desert.
Patrick Toman
Saturday, January 26, 2002 04:32:02 PM
IP: 66.72.195.246

Jan> Congrats on being a grandmother. My mom went nuts over my nephew (my sister's kid). Now he's one and half and is spoiled all to hell cuz of my mom....doh, I spoil him, too. 8D
metaldemon
denton
Saturday, January 26, 2002 04:27:25 PM
IP: 24.219.165.75

DPH> <<organized crime is in a war with the US government>> no, but you don't see us bombing the hell out of drug lords or their homeland. Same with the "war on crime" or any other catch phrase with the word war in it. Vietnam was technically not a "war" either - but we sure as hell had prisoners of war there!

lain> I read your posts several times and with your reputation, I am still correct in the assumption that I had about the tone of your post.

gunjack> ok.

Christine> heh, I hope that Anna is at least close to her due date when she delivers *nodnodnod* My mom is betting on Wednesday because a nasty storm is due to arrive then... snow, ice, sleet. I have a feeling that Zachy-boy is going to be a real comic and decide to arrive with great style and excitement... while Nana here has to get him and Anna to the hospital in bad weather conditions. *L* (the hospital is in another town, 20 miles away)

Naimgold> I finally saw a RL pic of you! wow, you are a very beautiful young lady!! :)

I must go and finish unpacking the baby things needed to set up the nursery... nothing like waiting until the last moments to get it done ;D
Jan
Saturday, January 26, 2002 03:41:23 PM
IP: 12.110.236.39

Jan - <you feeling ok, friend? *tilts head*> I have yet to claim to be sane. Let's see: I have had headaches for days in a row. No, I'm not alright. <*pumps fist in the air* Jerry! Jerry!> What a mess of a situation. <prisoners of war> Carefull with that term. If you wanted to stretch the definition out, organized crime is in a war with the US government, but aren't entitled to protections by the Geneva accords.

**CUBA**

This is confusing me. How can the US government have a base at Cuba if we aren't exactly on friendly terms with their government? I haven't had a history class in . . years.

**END CUBA**

Imzadi - <Why would you?> Ok, what about those people who got cancer from smoking and apply for government help to pay for the treatments? What about those people who got STDs (from everywhere else but blood transfusions and birth) and want the government to pay for their treatment? Heck, why is the government paying money for AIDS research when we already know how to prevent the disease?

Skippy - <Though what really struck me was the fact that Luthor needed an Intellegence Analyst spending hundreds of man-hours sifting through data (at the taxpayer's expense of corse) to tell him that when Clark Kent takes off his glasses he's Superman.> That was a waste of money. Simply running Superman's face through the DMV registration could have got the same result.

Spacebabie - <Use Mike Tyson.> Thankfully, I am in a better mood now. But, when I do find the person, I'm going to use my new method. I wonder if my new method would be enough to deter DC.

Two days ago, I made lots of waffles so I know what I am having for breakfast for a while.

I am sick of black-eyed peas.

DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, January 26, 2002 02:17:22 PM
IP: 204.94.193.24

Christine - saw Monte Cristo last night, and it was a straight forward film, no fancy F/X. Gorgeous costuming, well delivered lines. Action and plot are rather predictable, but its a fun story so you don't mind much. Love the priest, he's a show stealer, and the manservent (name escapes me) -- Great casting.

I have Brotherhood of the Wolf in raw french, but haven't watched it yet. Kind of want to see it subtitled if they ever release it locally. But I'm growing more and more tempted, as patience is not a virtue I have great amounts of. I did watch the beginning bit, just to see the type of film it is. Looks cool. You wonder a bit about the type of monster you are seeing, until you get a good close look. It looks niiiiiiiiice. I want to watch my copy really badly. sigh.

If you haven't already seen it, a nice little macabre (sp?) piece is Ginger Snaps. Canadian and on a shoe string budget it manages to be the best werewolf film I've seen. If it hadn't been in pre-production during the Columbine and other school shootings (some in Canada) I'm sure it would have been a big hit, instead of being buried because it involves blood and gore in a high school setting. Such a shame, it's got the look and feel of a classic.

kay
later
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Saturday, January 26, 2002 01:56:53 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Hi ya'll.

Pray for me, or if you're an athiest just think happy thoughts for me. I'm spending today cleaning up my apartment. I figure the girl I've started dating will eventually want to see where I live, and if I ever want her to see me again after that it had better not look like a pig sty.

I'm not naturally a slob, but I'm not particularly a neat-freak either, and my roommate's a little closer to the slob end of the scale than I am. It's not an auspicious combination.

I'm going to start with my bedroom and work my way out. If I don't post in a while please send someone to my place to excavate me from the mound of old comics and paperback books, OK? :)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:27:35 PM
IP: 64.48.223.46

** Niamhgold enters **

Wow, what a LONG week. I'm so glad I got to sleep in today, and it was the fist time I've ever seen my roommate get up before me. True, she was doing it so she could watch Saturday Morning Cartoons (I've converted yet another!), but it was still nice to see.

I survived my classes, dropped Thursday's class for my better Monday class, finished the skull, had my internship meeting, went to the doctor's for a long-needed checkup, made an appointment to lunch with my advisor about transferring to and helping with the new animation major, talked with Liz about upping the professional business sector of our school (we are working on starting a BUNCH of major changes around here, including, but not limited to, better publications for awareness Wall-Street-Journal style, more seminars on software, and more recruiters from ALL ends of the country and all sectors), started working on my taxes, took slides and called about developing them, and, of course, trying to schedule in fun like movies and friend-outings. ;)

All in all, I'm exhausted. Today I did laundry, now it's on to shopping and maybe the library. Woo, Enoch Pratt!

I'm also excited because we're going to additionally be adding SolidWorks to our 3d Studio Max class regimen, so I'll at least be exposed to a _little_ engineering stuff before I die ;)

Sorry to have subjected you all to that. Replies:

Terrky K: Goodness, I'm so sorry. I know it hurts to have had those been your last words...but there's no way you could have known, trust me. :: hugs ::

Spacebabie: I aim to be random ;) Of course, if you want to be in on the _real_ joke...when I say bananas, you say kumquats ;) Maybe that helps? <I�m still a virgin. I have been around the bases but I never slid home, so I�m not exactly pure or chaste> Have you taken the purity test? (www.thespark.com). In any case, good, smart thinking for you ;)

Winterwolf/Dreamie: :: huggles to both :: <It took me longer than it should have but my car is now properly licensed and registered in Washington> Yay! Darn DMVs ;) Even in NH, when NO ONE is in the office, I'm still made to wait two hours ;) Bow chicka bow...

Jan: <really sorry to hear about your dog =( It was devastating when I lost our oldest dog this summer. I still miss her> Thank you, very much. Yeah, he was a good old friend of the family. We'd had him pegged as immortal...well, lived longer than any dog I've seen, and went out gracefully with little or no disability, so I'm glad it was peaceful. <She has not �grown� as much as she should for this past week and the doctor said it could either be lack of fluid> It sounds like she'll be fine. I've seen pictures of my mom when she was 8 and a half months pregnant, and I swear, she looked like her normally thin self ;) Of course, she's the same women who said that childbirth is a cinch, so I don't know...

Mooncat: <It's just that if you want to miscarry/abort, there are so many other safer and less odd ways of doing it than by starvation.> Seriously. I mean, there are not only medical options that don't involve surgery, but, additionally, she's lucky she didn't fail to clot or something when she miscarried with the lack of those nutrients. <Or just don't have sex, or only oral sex, etc, until you are ready to have children> I doubt only being able to have oral sex is a bad thing, either ;)

Gside: <That happens in Connecticut for Jersey to NH trips> Ah...lemme guess, the Cross Country, Merrit, and Hutchinson Parkways? ;) Those things are rough. <You want to fill openings? Oh well> That's why he'd be my editor. Make sure I don't have ambiguities like that.

Sarge: <You're excited about this?> Of course...it's like me ;) <Boy I can't WAIT for college and learn a lot more about art than I do now> Depends which kind of art you want to learn. For things like painting, you really only learn "how to" by practice, and college simply provides you with the studio environment. You do learn in academic courses, but make sure your school offers top-of-the-line academics, with business and science and mathematics to boot! ;)

SJ: Hoorah, you're back :) <Wait till the Oscars come up, I will have lots more inner rage to spew forth> Not to mention the Freudian innuendos. <Polish them off with some Grey Goose> Forgive my ignorance...what's IN Grey Goose?0 <And if I got the Hivvie even using a bag, I�d be PISSED> LOL.

Da...Josh: That can't be good for your health. <But this other girl, I like her. And she trusted me> I highly doubt she'll put any blame on you whatsoever for this...she probably wouldn't have kept in contact with you if she did. <prof seems nice and funny, and at least today's lecture was interesting> That sounds promising...usually, if the first day's lecture is boring, that's when you know you'd better drop ;) <should laugh it off, but they want actually writing! A paper and 5 mini-essays on some of the lectures. And reading! This is like real work! Bastards> LOL. I know, what's up with all this work sh!t they've been giving us this semester? <Maybe he'll weed out some of your more foolish classmates> No, because the foolish classmates are so stupid that they won't remember to drop, or didn't hear what he said. In any case, we'll get slackers, who will make this class of 40 (and for a studio classroom, that's a lot) drag on and on and on ;) But I still look forward to having actual work, regimens, assignments! <No more three day weekend?> No, sorry. <Thank you both so much. It means a lot coming from an artist AND an aeronautics engineer. Two people who appreciate form AND function> No problem...I liked what I saw. But I'm just an artist...you need not thank me. No, but I bet I could fake it! ;) <Yeah, all those dot-commers in the bay can afford to pay high prices> Sadly, it seems that while most tech companies are going to rebound in the second quarter (Oregon, Dallas, Boston, DC), SF was listed as one of the only places that are going to struggle hard. <Except that last time I was home someone died too> My dog died, does that count? Maybe we're just both bad luck ;) <Does this position pay?> Very, very well. <Heh, heh> You know it ;) <That doesn't make me feel much better> I'm sorry, I really am. I didn't mean to sound that callous. I just didn't want to say anything that might have over-worked your already neurotic outlook. <There's nothing quite like starting your day with an email telling you that the girl who just got tested is NOT pregnant> Whoo! Congratulations...that's very good to hear. At least you can sleep now :) <If I had to work from 8 to 5 without eating...I'd flip> Back or cartwheel? <Next time, buy a mac. Have you ever heard me come into the CR with this problem? No.> Your logic is somewhat backwards there, as well. I have a PC and never have come into the CR with that problem, either. ;)

All right, I'm done for the day. Need food!
Adios

Niamhgold
Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:22:44 PM
IP: 206.41.204.144

spacebabie>> i had a bad dream, too.. and it was one of those ones thats so realistic, you dont know whether it was a dream or if it actually happened yesterday.
i dreamed i was closing at the end of work.. and my boss came in with the area supervisor (or something) and said theyd been watching me working that night from out on the bench in the mall and theyd decided to fire me. and they wouldnt say why.. :(
and since im thinking about needing to get ANOTHER job (this would make three..) because my first job.. my boss is only giving me two shifts (of four hours) a week.. at minimum wage, of course (which is 6.85$ up here) but... it isnt going very far... and my other naked job.. well.. i guess they havent gotten far enough along in the course to need to draw actual people so i havent been called in. that job pays SIGNIFICANTLY better.. cos of the naked.. but it, again, is only three or six hours a week. not enough.
<<Can we adopt you?>> *blinks, then starts sniffling* i wish.. <<We still have the room that we had built for Nana when she was a live, so you have a place to keep your stuff and Ishy.>> you tempt me.. VERY muchly.. if i cancelled my tuition cheque.. id have 2,000$ in my bank account to spend on getting there.. mind you, id need to apply for visas and work permits and endless other things, im sure. id probably be best to stay in canada, simply cos its easier, but thank you. maybe i could come visit someday? and.. my house is always open.. *hug* thanks.. again.. more..

josh>> <<You always say that, and you always go back.>> yeah yeah, i know its true.. but the point is, i havent gone back yet.. and its been a few days.. and ive never lasted that long before so.. maybe i have a chance of pulling it off. cheer for me, will ya, ya big cynic.. :P <<The President can declare war on boy bands if he'd like, then send in commandos and kill N'Sync.>> and oh, what a glorious day that would be... <<"mistreatment" is a relative thing. Two hundred years ago, no one would have considered it unreasonable to sell the prisoners into slavery. And that would be considered MERCIFUL.>> yeah yeah, i know. but the point is it ISNT two hundred years ago, and you signied papers which said how people were supposed to be treated. and some people think that, because they CANT BE called POWs, it means they can lower the standards, which is where people start getting suspicious of the us, which is where this whole hoopla started. <<You can always email files to me, ya know.>> yeah but, unlike loadsa-money-boy here, i have to use FREE email accounts, which have limits on how many MBs you can transfer.. and no good porn is gonna be less than a MB...

metaldemon>> *snuggles* and where have YOU been, wookie boy? and me? in bed by 11pm? you MUST be nuts...
yeah, my dads bein a jerkface. i still love the guy but.. this has GOT to stop.. thanks for your support.

gunjack>> <<Oopsie... sorry about that, Lain. That reply was mostly aimed at the article, not at you. Forgot to change the reference after I switched targets.>> yeah, you did, didnt you, bright spark? awww... its okay, i still love you. and now you know better for NEXT time we have a.. healthy disagreement.. like.. tomorrow, for example.. ;)

love
lain
the Great White North
Saturday, January 26, 2002 11:43:31 AM
IP: 64.228.197.69

I should write zombie porn just for you people ... :P

Jan > ah, my mistake; I'd misremembered you saying the baby was due more toward the beginning of the month. Still got a couple of days. Gonna be a big boy, that. I only missed my due date with Becca by 12 hours and 20 minutes.

Count of Monte Cristo > anyone who's seen this movie and/or Brotherhood of the Wolf, question for you -- is the action plausible, or is it the Crouching Matrix Hidden Musketeer thing? I want to see both flicks but am tired of being jarred out of the movie by people hanging in midair and slowmo acrobatics and whatnot.

Sabledrake deadline > one more week to send in stuff for the February issue! Looking in particular for game articles and adventures, and fiction, art, and reviews are always welcome!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:54:44 AM
IP: 64.24.214.62

Mom got my drugs yesterday WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Ugh Thursday sucked. I forgot my inhaler and I arrived on campus really early. So I decided to walk to the Student Union. They have a Wendys there and I got the spicey chicken value meal. As I rode home I was wheezing and when I finally got home I felt I was going to vomit and my hands were shaking, after inhaling on my asthma stuff and eating my meal I felt better.

Yesterday was all right. The dumb ass went tanning again and I cooked dinner. Its that sizzle n stir stuff. It was like Hamburger helper except The Helper never include a packet of spices to sprinkle on the meat as it sizzled. As it cooled I sprinkled on some mozzarella and placed a lid on it to trap the heat. When I went to serve myself the cheese looked more like strudel icing, it was delish.

I actually had one of THOSE dreams. You know the kind where your naked in school? Except I was in church and was wearing underwear, well no bra just panties.
Luckily for some reason they had the shirt shooters((The ones that killed Maude Flanders)) shoot out gown and sweater sets and I received one. Wich was Real good cause I was a ctually chilly in my dream.

DPH<<>>Use Mike Tyson.

Josh<<<There's nothing quite like starting your day with an email telling you that the girl who just got tested is NOT pregnant.>>> Good news for you <<<Today was a long day, as all my Thursday's are apt to be for the rest of the semester.>>>They are for me as well.<<<That should...suck.>>>It�s like having homework pancakes.<<<I'm looking forward to an engineering class that doesn't involve much actual math.>>> Isn�t that an oxymoron? <<<I'd have done exactly the same thing.>>>Wouldn�t that have made you an overachiever as well?<<>>Yes I didn�t get wet, but the poor thing�s mewing would have broken your heart.<<>>What the stealing or the lubes?<<<Do I get a treat?>>>Yes you get some Hershey treasures.<<<Ah of course. Well at 25, I wasn't expecting you to get a starter car.>>>Well since it would be my first car.

Jan>>>About Anna�s baby not being born yet. I�ts obvious he is a typical male. Doesn�t want to leave home.<<<... a group of people are attempting to sue the fast food industry for serving *fat* foods. >>>We need to sign petition to keep stupid people from breeding.<<<This ranks right up there with the stupidity and lack-of-accepting-responsibility-for-one's own-actions-tobacco lawsuits.>>>I think the only ones who should sue are those who received lung problems via second hand. Oh and Tell Anna I wish her good luck and hope she gets the place.

Winterwolf>>>Hey Wassup

Green Baron<<<Well, that's kind of graphic ;)>>>I need my puffer, even if its cheap Ekards brand version of Primateen mist.<<<I'm glad you're still a virgin. I'm the only one in my whole unit and the oldest one in Basic.>>>Well you are Catholic�j/k<<<Spacebabie is older than I am, but I guess he would eb a technical virgin >>> HE? Uh dud this is why you should write cr responses on MS works then copy and paste�or whatever the Mac users have.

Stephen zinged Firestorm.

Lain>>>Can we adopt you? I know we have had our differences but I think you would be better off here than with your dad. We still have the room that we had built for Nana when she was a live, so you have a place to keep your stuff and Ishy. I never had a rat, but I did own a hamster once. Had to move his cage to the kitchen cause he kept me up at night with his wheel.

Gside<<<Got distracted again (finally hooked the Game Cube to the common TV and had a Smash marathon), then there was an ugly crash shortly after I started my post>>> My brother loves that game.Once when he paused Princess peach was leaping in mid air and it was possible to see her underwear. Have tried to do something similar?

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:26:29 AM
IP: 67.24.18.175

###### SUPERMAN COMIC SPOILERS #######
(If anyone really cares)

I was in my comic shop the other day and flipped through the latest issue of the Adventures of Superman (#176 I think) and this issue had a major plot development...

Lex Luthor, who is now President of The United States finally discovered Superman's secret identity.

Though what really struck me was the fact that Luthor needed an Intellegence Analyst spending hundreds of man-hours sifting through data (at the taxpayer's expense of corse) to tell him that when Clark Kent takes off his glasses he's Superman.

Criminal genius my @$$....
Skippy The Klingon
Saturday, January 26, 2002 09:30:10 AM
IP: 209.245.243.69

Ah, lazy day. After the bitch that was Thursday, its nice to have a day off. Every week. I think I could get used to this.

And of course, Friday is my personal religious holiday (I worship myself), so I didn't do any work.

Saw The Count of Monte Christo. A very predictable movie, but still very entertaining. I've never seen such an amalgamation. It had something for everyone: drama, action, romance, and comedy. Mostly the first two. But it was fun to watch.

replies!

Warpmind: <<That's MS stability for ya, huh>>: This is the most commonly heard phrase (or its variants) among PC users. Yet they're still using them. ::boggle:: <<all you gotta do is visualize the thing (or, in this case, things) and act as a reporter?>>: Easier said than done. <<start viewing and transcribing the stuff that happens between my ears>> Here, let me try. "And then there was emptiness". How's that? <<if there's enough money for that, there's bound to be some for you, too>>: Sweet! You'll forigve me if I don't keep my hopes up. And I won't ask for too much, either. Probably about 10,000, because that's the max amount I can get without raising eyebrows at the IRS ;-) <<Which is why you won't see me standing next to'em in bad weather. At least, not without good insulation>>: LOL. <<A Good Slow Screw Up Against A Wall"? Considering the bartenders at the ground floor bar are all women in their early twenties, that could make for an interesting order>>: Try asking for a Tight Snatch sometime... <<So the lights were screwy while you did Hamlet, huh? More things between heaven and earth...>>: So true. Its amazing how that play is haunted.

Christine: <<It sounds to me like you've been responsible and dealing with it as well as can be expected>>: I'll agree with you on the second part, but I don't think I've been responsible. If I had, I wouldn't have been there. <<it's ZOMBIES!>>: Zombie porn? <<perfectly good ones to be had for free with just a little midnight digging?>>: Forget digging. Just borrow from someone who isn't using theirs.

Winterwolf: <<not me. I think you're thinking of SJ>>: SJ isn't dating a schoolgirl. Or anyone else, for that matter.

Green Baron: <>: Much appreciated. <<I'd only recommend it if you like gambling and can afford to lose every penny you invest>>: That's true for any form of investing though: if you can't afford to lose, don't play. <<It's guilt. Good old-fashioned guilt>>: I see. Thanks for the clarification. <<Maybe you should give little Josh a rest for now>>: Jake. His name is Jake. No, I didn't name him. <<I'd back you up on that>>: As would anyone else who is still waiting for their savior. <<It's jsut too bad they aren't 100% effective>>: They're close enough. <<that's kind of graphic>>: So true. <<So she'll just let you have a second wife to do the housework for her>>: "Every man needs a maid" - Robert Margolis, CEO of Cherokee Clothing. <<I've know read teh Doug and Kit controversy and the flame wars that nearly nuked the CR, along with SJ's bisexual girlfriend in Niagra falls>>: And aren't you so much better for it? <<my kids get Catholic homeschooling unless my wife works, too>>: Ack!! Every kid I know that was homeschooled turned out REALLY screwed up. I wouldn't send my kids anywhere but private school if I was living in LA, but then again I'm not planning on kids. <>: You say that like its a bad thing.

DPH: <>: What about between a woman and a woman? ;-) <>: Why would you?

Stephen: <>: You don't know what you can/can't afford until you do a TCO (total cost of ownership). For example, my tower is a cracked out mac, VERY expensive. I had no right spending as much money as I did on it. But if you consider that I plan for this machine to last me 4-6 years, it starts to look a bit more reasonable. Repairs won't cost me much, because mac hardware rarely breaks down unless you do something really stupid. And even if it does, I'm covered for the next 3 years. Maybe I'll need a $150 PCI card to connect to the latest peripheral in another year and a half or two, but all should be good. My brother's iMac that I bought him this past summer is supposed to last 5 years, and was about $1000. Between the warranties and all that stuff, it starts to become very reasonable. It's all about knowing your products.

Fire Storm: <<THAT is how I shall take over the world!>>: By giving everyone chicken pox? <<It does a body good!>>: Well Milk certainly doesn't, I am living proof. BEEFCAKE! <<Would it cause a lot of pain to someone trying anyway?>>: Quite. Unless you find lengthwise slices along your member to be painless... <>: And then some? <<Beats the living hell out of me.>>: Sounds familiar. <<You turn women into crack whores!>>: Its a gift. <<For when the speed of light just ain't good enough>>: Every day. <<put them out of our misery!>>: Or, just punish the owners. Shave them like they shave their dogs. <<a zombie cook book>>: Mix two parts zombie with one part sugar. <<money that I feel there is a good chance to loose anyway>>: But wouldn't you rather lose it and have something to show later? Like a machine to run OS X? <<he'll be warm for the rest of his life>>: LOL! You have much better quotes than I do.

Gunjack: <<Save accusations of abuse for real travesties, not nitpicking>>: Well said. <<would strip prisoners naked and leave them for days at a time in cells filled ankle deep with ice water>>: YUCK. That sucks. <<You don't read much military history, do ya?>>: Or he's just a naive sap. <<Irregulars are entitled, according to international law, to a bullet in the back of the head>>: What if I want mine in the front of the head? <<What is it good for? Absolutely nothinnothin SING IT AGAIN>>: LOL!

Jan: <<Zach will not be lacking for anything for the next several months *blushes* I did a bit overbuying>>: Few things are better than a grandmother that spoils you rotten. He'll love you for it, trust me. <>: LOL. <<we declared war on terrorist, they were captured because they are terrorist and yet they are not prisoners of war??>>: Not how it works. Despite the popular press, you can't declare war on drugs, or on terrorism, or on pop music. Only congress can declare war, and only on another nation. <<he said WAR. W.A.R>>: He also doesn't have that authority, despite being commander in chief. He can declare war on democrats, for all I care. But there will be no official declaration of war because congress doesn't have anyone to declare against. <<How are these terrorist not considered prisoners of war?>>: They should be. "Technically", they aren't prisoners of war. <<congrats on the good news from your girlfriend>>: Thanks! <<a group of people are attempting to sue the fast food industry for serving *fat* foods. This ranks right up there with the stupidity and lack-of-accepting-responsibility-for-one's own-actions-tobacco lawsuits>>: Personally, I agree. However, I also think that the tobacco industry should be forced to pay billions out the nose. Just not to smokers. Hell, they could bail our gov't out of debt. THAT'S what we should do with their money. Then keep taxing the hell out of cigarettes. Smoking won't be outlawed until I take over the planet. <<he's 33 and his girlfriend is barely 16... which also means that she was around 12 or 13 when they first "fell in love". *gags*>>: Oh, that's special. <>: Well worth it.

Lain: <<it all started last night. dad phoned up>>: Oh boy... <<this is it. ive had it. no more>>: You always say that, and you always go back. Even I'd told my parents off by the time I was 18. <>: The President can declare war on boy bands if he'd like, then send in commandos and kill N'Sync. But that doesn't make it a real war, and the people captured aren't POW's. <<because the us (and other western nations) are supposed to be on the "higher moral ground.>>: "mistreatment" is a relative thing. Two hundred years ago, no one would have considered it unreasonable to sell the prisoners into slavery. And that would be considered MERCIFUL. <<do i have to explain what i ACTUALLY said for a THIRD time?>>: Once is usually enough. <<you know i would cept.. you dont have file-transfer so>>: Actually, I do have an AIM client capable of file-transfer, I just don't use it unless its important. You can always email files to me, ya know.

Gside: <<finally hooked the Game Cube to the common TV and had a Smash marathon>>: How is that game? <<and a bonus>>: Cash bonus? <<Forget to ground yourself?>>: Been there, done that, fried the video card. <<Do you think any college student has a remotely normal sleep schedule>>: I think her point is that when she DOES finally crash, it isn't sound sleep. What she really needs is someone to tire her out. <<How about if I ask nicely?>>: Then I'll kick yer ass. <>: I think that's silly. You get out of bed in the morning and smell like sheets for the rest of the day. <<Screaming Orgasm>>: Two, please. <<The first thing done in just about every class here is ask who isn't registered and needs a number>>: Here, they say "you can petition to be let in" and then 100 kids fill out a form. That's for the EECS classes. <<I'm sure Fire Storm would remain in the middle>>: I pity him. <<When was the last time I let appropriateness stop me?>>: I don't know, I haven't even been here a year. <<Uh oh>>: yeah. <>: Or just get hornier. <<Warhamster 4000>>: LOL! <<Not cut it off, shred it up>>: Either way, its stuck there. <<My plan is proceding nicely>>: If slowly.

Alright, its time to sleep.

When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight.
-Ghost Host, Disneyland

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, January 26, 2002 04:26:33 AM
IP: 64.161.27.64

Right. Got distracted again (finally hooked the Game Cube to the common TV and had a Smash marathon), then there was an ugly crash shortly after I started my post. Eh.

Oh, and my eden account now holds Lain's latest work and a bonus.

Sarge> <>: Forget to ground yourself?

SOROW> <<I'm not sleeping so well>>: Do you think any college student has a remotely normal sleep schedule.

Imzadi> <<The probability is high that any college will use a different book, but low that it will actually be cheaper>>: It'll probably be close in price, and if so, it could beat it by a couple bucks.
<<Interesting way you've phrased that>>: Thank you.
<<You do?>>: Do I?
<<Argh fine I get it! Its a squirrel!>>: Very good.
<<Probably not. I'm usually peaceful, despite my belligerence>>: How about if I ask nicely?
<>: I shower nights myself.
<>: Probably helps that this is an honors (engineering) dorm.
<>: It's also mondays.
<<Forget that. There's a drink called Sex on the Beach>>: Screaming Orgasm.
<<I'm not gonna ask>>: You get it anyway: http://www.overclocked.org/OCmamepron.htm
<<What is that eastern European equivalent called?>>: Don't think it has an official name, but perhaps Engski. And I forgot the Indians. Pakistanlish?
<<We don't have those here, lucky dog>>: The first thing done in just about every class here is ask who isn't registered and needs a number.
<<With who?>>: Lady Mystic, of course. I'm sure Fire Storm would remain in the middle.
<<Didn't stop you from posting it>>: When was the last time I let appropriateness stop me?
<<I'm only overly sensitive to christians and virgins right now>>: Uh oh.
<>: I must work harder.

Fire Storm> <<Hmm... Warhammer! Large ones! And Hamsters!>>: Even better: Warhamster 4000.
<>: Ooh, thank you.
<<But do you really want it to cut it off inside of you>>: Not cut it off, shred it up.
<<Hey, I want my MP3>>: But you do know how infrequently I update my eden account.
<<And opens up new holes!>>: Like the esophagus.

Sarge> <>: I'd rather be Guildenstern.
<<The U.S. territory of Guam has a plebiscite>>: Did they plug the plebes?
<<In the 1900's they called them the ots>>: Spelled aughts.

Warpmind> <<Considering the bartenders at the ground floor bar are all women in their early twenties, that could make for an interesting order>>: Or, for the females who find a bar with a nice guy behind it, go for that with a Screaming Orgasm.

Green Baron> <>: My plan is proceding nicely.

Fire Storm> <<Not if I get there first with my hammers and hamsters>>: Might as well drive ther in a Hummer for good measure.

Gunjack> <<Whatcha doing under the poncho, Red?>>: Why don't you join me and find out?

Fire Storm> <>: Oh, but it is. It changes genres every episode, the ending theme is sung by a dog (who Excel tries to eat occaisonally), and Excel herself frequently dies. It was also mentioned in Megatokyo when Largo broke his arm the second time.
<<What was used to compress that video?>>: Divx, with Overlay Video Renderer and YUY2 Overly color mode. Not sure about the audio, but I got sound when playing it in WMP.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, January 26, 2002 03:54:33 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Gunjack: <Actually, I wasn't refering to the Taliban>
I know. The situations were alot different. I just like mentioning that alot.
<You don't read much military history, do ya?>
WWII or Vietnam era, I would agree with you.
NOW, on the other hand...

Gside: <Excel Saga>
I get the distinct feeling that it is one screwed up show.
<B17ch>
What was used to compress that video?
Fire Storm
Saturday, January 26, 2002 02:30:17 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Lain> <<you actually READ my post>> *squishes between arms in big hug* Yeppers. :)
Where, may I ask, have you been? You're never on-line anymore...well, possibly becuase I get on at ten at night and you might be in bed o.O
Sorry about your dad :( I know I used to lose my temper with my dad when he would call me a triator to the country or a coward or non-Guerrero (my last name, which means warrior in English) since I don't like any violence. That's when I would call him an ass-hole and hang-up 8D Believe me, I went through the exact same thing; maybe differant causes, but same relationship.
metaldemon
denton
Saturday, January 26, 2002 01:40:12 AM
IP: 24.219.165.75

Oopsie... sorry about that, Lain. That reply was mostly aimed at the article, not at you. Forgot to change the reference after I switched targets. :P

FS - Actually, I wasn't refering to the Taliban. The Gulag Chekists would strip prisoners naked and leave them for days at a time in cells filled ankle deep with ice water. There's a difference between doing it to holed-up enemy soldiers, and doing it to completely defenceless prisoners.
<<NO American soldier would have done that!>> You don't read much military history, do ya?

Jan - Gee, it's almost like old times again. Where'd I leave that Maalox? <<They are part of a terrorist group, we declared war on terrorist, they were captured because they are terrorist and yet they are not prisoners of war?>> ...Hoo boy. Okay, where to begin? A "Prisoner of War" isn't just someone who gets captured in a war. It's a special status reserved for members of a Nation's armed forces. It DOESN'T apply to spies, partisans, guerrilas, or other irregulars. Soldiers are entitled, according to the Geneva convention, to certian minimum standards of treatment. Irregulars are entitled, according to international law, to a bullet in the back of the head.
<<Did you not listen when President Bush declared WAR on any terrorist...>> ...which is an oxymoron according to international law. Terrorists aren't countries, and so you can't declare war on them. He cleared that up by adding the "and any nation that aids them" part, but it's still hyperbole until we decide to change international law.
<<he said WAR. W.A.R.>> What is it good for? Absolutely nothinnothin SING IT AGAIN!
...Sorry, couldn't resist.
<<How are these terrorist not considered prisoners of war?>> Bleeding heart liberals. pssshh. Look, Jan, why can't you just face the facts and accept that they're NOT prisoners of war? The Army says it, the President says it, but you gotta keep on quibbling! Next you'll be saying that Bush stole the election!
<> That's because she hadn't gotten past stating facts and quoting sources yet. <<I'm not the least bit suprised about your opinions, but I'm definitely confused.>> We love you too, dear.

*goes to hit the post button, and then sees that Lain and Metaldemon have already said much the same things*

...Uh, yeah. This message has been brought to you by the letter Z, and the number Drunk.
Gunjack "Pry Me Off The Wall" Valentine
Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:55:34 AM
IP: 192.133.129.4

metaldemon>> *blinks* you mean.. you actually READ my post? AND understood what i was trying to say? wow.. im impressed.. you can stay!! :D
lain
Friday, January 25, 2002 11:05:54 PM
IP: 64.228.197.46

aaaah what a wonderful day today has been.
it all started last night. dad phoned up, and its apparently back to the good ol days where he shouts at me and tells me what a horible daughter i am and picks out every psychological catch-phrase he can think of that might, in some insignificantly tiny aspect, possibly relate to me, and plasters me with them. gooooood stuuuff. he told me i had to get rid of my rat, because i wasnt coming home to visit him with a rat. he wanted to know why in the world i would get a rat in the first place, since theyre bitey, and smelly, and antisocial and.. i should have gotten a cat. i am obviously very irresponsible with my decision making.
well you know, dad? given my current financial situation, i dont think it would be very fair to get a cat if i wasnt capable of paying the vet for anything that might happen to it. plus the fact that i dont really LIKE cats, cos THEY are bitey and scratchy and antisocial.. at least all the ones *I*ve ever known. and.. ishy is the cutest pet in the world. he DOESNT bite.. (except for that one time he bit a christian who was trying to convert me..) and he ISNT stinky. he cleans himself like a cat. all the time. and hes currently being highly antisocial by curling up in my lap and falling asleep as i type.
so.. given the above.. how was i "irresponsible" again? pardon?
he doesnt call me for weeks. when he does, its for five minutes to ask me if i can mail him a video he wants to show his fiance, not because he wants to know how i am. and you know.. im not okay. but i cant tell him that, because he doesnt care. he SAYS he cares, but if ever i try to tell him something thats bothering me he says things like "well, you just have to get over it" (in a conversation we were having about my mother, yeah well, some of us havent pole-vaulted over her as quickly as others..) or just shrugs it off and then suddenly has to go.
then he says "its a two way street, you know.." indicating that i should be phoning him.. which i do a damn sight more than HE ever has, BTW, even if i know were not going to talk about anything.
so i pretend to be happy in school, i pretend to like my roommate. i pretend i am going to my classes, and im not worried sick at night when im trying to sleep around my two-year-old headache that never moves or goes away.. and he just sucks it up and pretends he doesnt know its not true.

and then he pulls this latest power trip. i got so angry, i could barely see. and i hung up on him.. while he was in mid-sentance. you might not think that is anything, but i have never done that without phoning back three seconds later to apologize profusely and beg forgiveness. i havent called back, and he hasnt called me.
as far as im concerned this time, its over. he has his life, and i have mine. i dont want anything to do with him. i am negociating with my brain what is the best way to drop the hell out of university and never look back on such a miserable excuse for an educational institution in my life.

this is it. ive had it. no more.

jan>> if youd read what i said, or listen to the news, youd see that i am absolutely correct in stating that the detainees in cuba are NOT prisoners of war. the US government HAS NOT and *CAN NOT* give them that designation under *international law* because *international law* requires that they needed to have been fighting for a NATION.. and last time i checked, "terrorism" is not a nation. i didnt make international law, so dont look at me like i did. go ask the people who WROTE the law, if you have a problem with it.
i dont even know if you CAN legally declare war on something that isnt a nation, no matter how much any leader says its a war. like "war on drugs." ill have to research that one, though, cos i dont know. but the us isnt at war with afganistan-the-nation (unless ive REALLY missed something), becuase theres a LOT of afgans who are helping them. really, all the us seems to be doing is choosing to back up one side in a civil war, and rounding up terrorism suspects in the process. which is reasonable, but im not sure if it counts as war..
and also.. you will note that i *DID NOT* say i thought the prisonners were being treated unfairly. there was question raised in the CR as to why people were complaining about the way they were treated, and i tried to explain their point of view and the information they had which might have led them to that conclusion. i clearly stated, in the last paragraph of my post on the subject, the intent of my post. go back and read it if you didnt catch it the first time. people will make whatever conclusions they will about the living conditions, thats not my concern. you think they are fair and reasonable, and many share that opinion. many other "bleeding hearts" might not share your opinion. i was just sharing facts.

gunjack>> you fell into the same trap. <<There's a reason for that; if the prisoner is blind, hobbled, and on his knees, he's in a very bad position to, say, have a go at grabbing a gaurd's rifle or sidearm.>> duh. <<To keep them from breathing dust stirred up by the transport chopper?>> hm.. i hadnt actually thought of that one.. thanks. that might be a perfectly good reason. <<As for the chain-link huts, I'd imagine tthey biult 'em that way so they could keep an eye on the prisoners.>> also duh, hence the name "camp x-ray.." <<why is it that people only ever complain when the *US* "mistreats" prisoners?>> because the us (and other western nations) are supposed to be on the "higher moral ground." and just cos the "bad guys" mistreat people doesnt give you the right to. in fact, it kinda gives you the obligation to do the opposite.. <<Compared to what these people did in Afghan prisons, they're in heaven.>> never said they werent.. but i doubt the taliban had much to do with the making of international laws governing the treatment of people captured in war. i doubt their signature appears anywhere, though the us' does, and is therefore required to uphold the standards of this "free western democratic society" it holds so dear. <<Save accusations of abuse for real travesties, not nitpicking.>> like i said to jannie, if/when i should discover "real travesties," you can be sure ill let you know. for now, i was just providing information from which you can (and obviously have) taken what you will.

green baron>> <<Their basic and spiritual needs are met. It's not a hotel but they are priosners, afterall.>> do i have to explain what i ACTUALLY said for a THIRD time? o.O
<<At least they aren't forced to do calisthenic exercises every morning. >> uuuugh..

josh>> <<Does that mean you can get a job now?>> sadly.. no, but im working on it anyways. <<Gee, maybe we intended it that way...>> to quote my response to gunjack: "duh".. isnt that what i was saying? o.O <<You have porn!? Sweet! We should trade ;-)>> yeah well, you know i would cept.. you dont have file-transfer so...

sarge>> <<Wear garlic and keep your computer in a circle of salt and candles.>> oh, i pretty much do that anyways.. << If your roomate makes a comment or asks something throw a mixture of olive oil and scented oil at her>> she likes martha stewart.. she might enjoy that too much..

stephen>> <<clear course ahead to start working towards becoming a REAL Manager!>> CONGRATS!!!! :D (now.. if only you could fix ME up with a job....
:P

anyway.. bed soon, i think
love,
lain "" iwakura
the Great White North
Friday, January 25, 2002 11:02:32 PM
IP: 64.228.197.46

I don't think Lain ever declared a position on the issue of possible mistreatment to prisoners. She stated the matter objectively and said she doesn't have an opinion yet. But she came under fire (or so it seems to me, I could be wrongly reading some posts) for presenting the facts objectively.
And I believe she follows the UN definition of war. Just cuz you declare war doesn't make it an acutal war (like the "war on the poor," "war on drugs," etc.); some conditions have to met to be an official war. Just like the US never had a Revolution--it was a Rebellion. For a Revolution to take place, there must be unjust poverty, mass starvation, repression, abuse of masses, etc. France had that (yes, Green Baron, France actually suffered really bad because of the Aristocrats :}), and they had a legitimate revolution. America had some (deprivation of rights), but not enough to actually be considered a Revolution.
So, there does lay a differance in actually having a War, and calling a man-hunt a war. I guess you could consider the essence of the "War on Terrorism" as the same with the "War on the Poor" that Reagan tried to carry out, or the "War on Drugs" that Bush (or is it Clinton?) tried to carry out.
Some thoughts. Like Lain, I have no position yet on the Taliban prisoners. I lean towards more of them not being abused since nothing truly serious is happening. If beating started to happen or starvation of prisoners, then yeah, I would call that mistreatment (as I would of the Gulag, China, or any other country); but I haven't heard of anything of that sort yet; so I lean more towards unabuse hapenning.
metaldemon
denton, tx
Friday, January 25, 2002 10:56:45 PM
IP: 24.219.166.91

Christine and GB> nope, no baby yet. He's actually not due until Jan 28th, but we're all hoping for an early arrival ;)
The sonagram today showed that he is doing fine and there is a low level of ambiotic fluid, but not dangerously low - so we're still waiting to hear back from the doctor concerning the possibility of him inducing labor on her. I'm beginning to have my doubts that he'll do this.
The big shocker was Zach's current weight... a just a hair under 8 pounds so far! I didn't think that he was going to be this big. The tech kept pointing out various areas of his body, but I saw nothing except blobs. I did manage to make out his profile at one point. *L*
We got out more clothes, sheets, blankets, etc this evening. We also put the cradle together. We unpacked everything that has been purchased up to this point... hehe, Zach will not be lacking for anything for the next several months *blushes* I did a bit overbuying ;)
I told Anna that if she did not give birth this weekend, she had to wait until next Saturday.. then his birthday will be 02-02-02. hehe

Lain> I haven't figured out just yet why you seem to think that these people are not prisoners. They are part of a terrorist group, we declared war on terrorist, they were captured because they are terrorist and yet they are not prisoners of war?? Did you not listen when President Bush declared WAR on any terrorist OR those who harbor or gave aid to known terrorist? He didn't say that we're just going to be pissed off at them - he said WAR. W.A.R.
I don't understand your reasoning. I'm not the least bit suprised about your opinions, but I'm definitely confused. How are these terrorist not considered prisoners of war? Also, what is so unbearable about their living conditions? They ARE prisoners - we will not be providing them with a condo suite in the Bahamas. They have the basics provided for them, including the items needed to practice their religious faith. After living in the caves for all these past months, I would think that their living conditions have vastly improved since arriving in Cuba.

Winterwolf> I still have my Texas tags as well as my Texas driver's license ;) They punched a hole in the license, but returned it back to me. I was suprised when they did!
I love it here in Missouri and I do feel as if it's "home".. but I am also extremely proud of my Texas heritage :) I have many "Texas" items in my home that I proudly display.

Stephen> many congrats on your promotion!! I know that you have worked many long and grueling hours - at least it's all paying off for you now :)

Josh> congrats on the good news from your girlfriend =)

ahhhh, it has finally reared it's ugly head... a group of people are attempting to sue the fast food industry for serving *fat* foods. This ranks right up there with the stupidity and lack-of-accepting-responsibility-for-one's own-actions-tobacco lawsuits.

At work today we had a real Jerry Springer Show episode....
Wife came in claiming that her suicide attempt last weekend wasn't really a suicide attempt, but that she was drugged by her husband who had just told her that he was leaving her for another woman (even though the hospital records said that she repeatedly commented she would "go home and finish the job" as soon as she was released) She accused her husband of child molesting because his supposedly new girlfriend was only 16. (Yesterday she filed an ex parte against him and stated that he was a truck driver and had a 16 year old female with him.) She also told the detective today that her husband had multiple ID's and social security numbers... she was basically spilling her guts and singing like a canary about him... *chuckles*
So, the husband comes to the office to sign the ex parte papers. He comes to my window and says, "I believe I have a de parte paper to sign." DE parte? *L* Yeah buddy, we're sending you back to Goonie-Goonie...
I'm to keep him there until the detective arrives, so I engage in a conversation with him concerning this divorce situation of his. I pretend as if I am not familiar with anything going on... he proceeds to tell me of how he fell in love with his girlfriend a couple of years ago and tried to leave his wife but she attempted suicide, so he told the gf that he couldn't do that to his wife and they had to break it off... but 2 years later, he couldn't deny it anymore and the feelings were still there and strong for this this gal. So, last weekend he told his wife yet again that he wanted a divorce and she once again attempted suicide - but he wasn't going to fall for it again. He went on to tell me how good he plans on treating his soon to be ex-wife by paying her bills, etc. Dave finally arrives and begins questioning his multiple identities and he gives some BS story about how he was adopted and that his different moms did the social security numbers, how his name has had 3 different last names,etc. yeahhriiight.
Then Dave asks about this young girl that he is supposedly traveling across the country with.. (he's a truck driver) He quickly informs Dave that she is his niece and is out in the car... Dave has her come in for some questioning - just to make sure everything is kosher. Long story even longer so to make it shorter... she says she is his niece but when asked what the family connection is, he would actually be her cousin. A phone call to mom in California reveals that this gal and the guy are planning on getting married and mom has allowed her daughter to leave with this guy because money is tight around their house. Mom becomes worried that Dave is going to have her arrested and thrown in jail for allowing her juvenile daughter to leave with a 33 year old man. Yeppers... the girl turned 16 a couple of months ago and this guy is 33! sicko-bastard. The guy is called back into the office and Dave tells him to take this juvenile home (to CA), get his divorce, and then if they want to get married and mom signs the approval, then fine and hunky dorey... but until then - he is in dangerous territory having her with him. Jail bait. They have to have mom's _written_ permission - not just verbal. The guy starts saying how he's not embarassed about their age difference - but yet he was quick to lie earlier and call her his niece... I kept thinking that some bald headed guy named Steve was going to show up and then chairs would start flying.. *pumps fist in the air* Jerry! Jerry!
To add to this scenerio... his wife is 51 years old... he's 33 and his girlfriend is barely 16... which also means that she was around 12 or 13 when they first "fell in love". *gags*

Anna has applied for an FmHA home loan and has found an adorable house to purchase. So now in addition to waiting for the arrival of Steven Zachary, we are waiting to see if she qualifies for the pre-eligibility :)

Spacebabie> would you mind contacting me via email? :)

DPH> you feeling ok, friend? *tilts head*

I want to go see the "Count of Monte Cristo" but it's only showing in Springfield - too far away right now with Anna being as close to delivery as she is.

Time to call it a night. I've been called in several nights this week for dress-outs and I'm tired.
Jan - [janmiller@mo-net.com]
Friday, January 25, 2002 10:18:31 PM
IP: 12.110.237.33

Gunjack: <being left naked in a room filled ankle-deep with frozen water for a day or two>
And that's after the revolt which ended in burning gas being poured into the basement they are in, right?
My GOD, I am STILL amazed at the balls those good Afgan soldiers had in doing that! NO American soldier would have done that!
Fire Storm
Friday, January 25, 2002 10:15:14 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

There such a thing as psychic allergies? Maybe it was someone I bit...

Lain><<The pictures show the prisoners, manacled hand and foot, kneeling before their guards, and wearing blacked-out goggles over their eyes and masks over their mouths and noses.">> Chaining a prisoner hand and foot, blindfolding them, and having them kneel are fairly standard operating procedure during prisoner transfer. There's a reason for that; if the prisoner is blind, hobbled, and on his knees, he's in a very bad position to, say, have a go at grabbing a gaurd's rifle or sidearm. I can't for the life of me imagine why they'd be wearing masks (to keep them from being identified? To keep them from breathing dust stirred up by the transport chopper?), but a particle mask hardly constitutes humiliation.
As for the chain-link huts, I'd imagine tthey biult 'em that way so they could keep an eye on the prisoners. when you can't hide, it's rather hard to make the preperations nescessary either for a suicide or escape attempt.

The comment about the scene being reminiscient of the Cold War is especially laughable. A little perspective, if ya please. In the Gulag, you spent your precious between-torture-session hours in a variaty of places, all of them uniformly horrific. In on Siberian facility, the prisoners lived in slit trenches in the ground. No fences, no wire, just gaurds to shoot you if you stepped out of your frozen hole.
Prisoners at camp Xray are not held in cubbies intentionally filled with carniverous insects. They are not forced to perform backbreaking labor while suffering systematic starvation. Yes, they're somewhat exposed to the elements. They're also being held in the FREAKIN' TROPICS! Somehow, I doubt we'll be losing any Taliban to exposure any time soon.

Prisoner mistreatment is being stuffed into a closet for weeks at a time. It's being tortured, starved, and robbed. It's being left naked in a room filled ankle-deep with frozen water for a day or two. It's rationing the prisoner's SUNLIGHT.
Two other points. One, this is a military prison, and military prisons are almost by definition more spartan than civilian facilies.Two, why is it that people only ever complain when the *US* "mistreats" prisoners? Compared to what these people did in Afghan prisons, they're in heaven.

In short, the "abuse" accusation is patently rediculous. This is a military context, and it's a generous one by any historical yardstick you could name. Save accusations of abuse for real travesties, not nitpicking.

TRIGUN!
Gunjack "Whatcha doing under the poncho, Red?" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Friday, January 25, 2002 09:46:03 PM
IP: 192.133.129.4

Imzadi: 
And THAT is how I shall take over the world!
<Gee, thanks, I think>
Confusion. It does a body good!
<how about just dentricles surrounding the opening? Then it would never get in>
Hmm... could work. Would it cause a lot of pain to someone trying anyway?
<Just one?>
Na. Like Queen, I want it all!
<Then why were you having sex with her?>
Beats the living hell out of me.
<My friend is the son of the guy who owns Cherokee, Inc. Started his own tech company that is still making money. Couldn't get a credit card, even with his dad as a co-signer, until he was 20>
Sounds too familiar.
<Now she's a crack whore>
You see? You turn women into crack whores!
<You'd better be careful, I'm gonna rule the world soon>
Not if I get there first with my hammers and hamsters!
<That's why warp drives were invented>
For when the speed of light just ain't good enough.

Warpmind: <Actually, not so many poodles... I figure looking like they do is punishment enough...>
Too true... put them out of our misery!
<Don't you know that to write decent action-based stories, all you gotta do is visualize the thing (or, in this case, things) and act as a reporter? Works just fine for me>
I know... but my action still sucks.
<(But I warn you: it is defined as extremely hazardous for anyone other than myself to start viewing and transcribing the stuff that happens between my ears.)>
Same. If only I could write the TRUE darkness between my ears...

Winterwolf: <Will any of the hamsters be named "Boo"?>
Nope. Not only do I not mess with giant space hammers, I think Largo needs him.

Green Baron: 
Or a zombie cook book
<But he can only say Tim-may>
He has said "And the lords of the underworld" before!
<can afford to lose every penny you invest>
Any money I plan to put into the stock market is money that I feel there is a good chance to loose anyway.

Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. -Edwin
Fire Storm
Friday, January 25, 2002 09:11:45 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

JOSH - Actually, I could care less about being 'jacked' on the stats... I'm not looking for the Ultimo-Comptuer that I won't have to deal with for thirty years down the road. I can't afford it! I'm paying a full, reasonable price for my new system, and from the stats I've read, it will suit what I want to do just fine. ^_^

As for what Area I manage as an Area Manager, that's up to where I'm assigned for the shift. Front Counter, Grill, Drive-Thru... that's the sort of areas I mean.

And speaking of which, the word on when I can wear those shirts came down today; I sat down and spoke with my Area Supervisor (she's the bigger boss over my store manager), and she told me I can start being a full-paid and certified Area Manager starting tomorrow! New Payraise! And... this is the real mindkicker! In a month, If I perform well, and prove I have the knowledge and the skills in place, I'll start in on Manager training, starting with Floor Manager in Training (all areas of the store)... if I get through that and more, by the end of 12 weeks I'll become a Shift Manager!

In short... DERN LOT'S HAPPENED TODAY BOYS!!! ^_^

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Friday, January 25, 2002 06:31:28 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

Imzadi - <Thanks, I think.> Let me explain my position: I am against sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman. Furthermore, what you do in your private life is your business, but I don't want to pay for the consequences of your actions. <are you a friend-boy?> We go back to when I was in 6th and 7th grade through 10th grade. We became reacquainted when I was attending my 1st college. [Those were the dark days of my life. If you guys thought I was frozen before, then I must have been at absolute zero at that time.] We renewed friendship again AND again. I would rather stick to the term "friend".

cyberklaw - <It's just a simple fact that while there are many who like and enjoy both science-fiction and fantasy (me included), the genre is generally sneered upon by pretty much everyone else. I've never fully figured out why, but I have accepted that's the way things are.> The problem is people don't look at it beyond what they see at the surface level.

DPH
AR, USA
Friday, January 25, 2002 06:26:00 PM
IP: 204.94.193.47

DPH> <<Yes. BTW, what's up with your spelling? Even when I communicate through instant messaging you always have lots and lots of spelling errors.>> I type too fast and I'm too lazy to correct myself.

Fire Storm> <<What's so bad about that? Tim-may gets the babes AND was the leader of a rock band!>> But he can only say Tim-may.

<<What's your opinion: Do you think Kmart will be a good buy if it is still around in a month? The stock is currently down below a dollar.>> Very risky. If it climbs above a dollar, it is easier to buy among on-line firms and there may be more hope. Still, that is very risky and I'd only recommend it if you like gambling and can afford to lose every penny you invest.

Imzadi> <> It's guilt. Good old-fashioned guilt. Look upon it as a learning experience. I'm glad the scare was that. Maybe you should give little Josh a rest for now.

<<Like I should run out tomorrow and get a vasectomy at the ripe old age of 20, just to be sure that I can never go back.>> Perosnally I'd back you up on that. It's jsut too bad they aren't 100% effective.

Kathy> Actually I learned that in sex ed, which was surprisingly in Religion class. I gues they want us to learn about what we're not supposed to do.

Spacebabie> <<Hey the only thing I stick in my motuh and inhale is my astma puffer.>> Well, that's kind of graphic ;)

<<I�m still a virgin. I have been around the bases but I never slid home, so I�m not exactly pure or chaste.>> You're still chaste, just not on the Virgin Mary level of purity. I'm glad you're still a virgin. I'm the only one in my whole unit and the oldest one in Basic.

Mecord> <<I�m sure Atilla (or his ghost rather) would remember hitting on her, she�s called Cat after all>> Attila probably did. He's a ghost and can get around so you'll probably get an exoricst if she has kittens.

<<As many as she�ll let me. ;)>> So she'll just let you have a second wife to do the housework for her ;)

I noticed your marriage as I read throughteh Comment Room archives.

I've know read teh Doug and Kit controversy and the flame wars that nearly nuked the CR, along with SJ's bisexual girlfriend in Niagra falls.

Jan> I thought Anna already had her kid.

John Walker> He's a traitor. He shoudl have his citizneship revoked. However he was actually fighting us in combat and not just entertaining the enemy like Jane Fonda. I'll give him credit for that, but when you join with a force that has declared death to your nation, you have committed treason. If he is executed, I shed no tears, but he shoudl be tried as the other Taliban are. It might be amusing if his mother is a good Buddhist and sets herself on fire in protest :)

SJ <> Well, if she has kittens, you knwo what ghost kitty si to blame.

<<By the time I was finished with the subject, I was reading Miguel Cervantes� �Don Quixote�, in the original Spanish. And I�m an idiot with languages! >> That is a long ass book. It took my Uncle a year to read it in English and he's an MD.

<<And with that paragraph, you�ve summed up the last few decades of the (public) school system.>> Note, my kids get Catholic homeschooling unless my wife works, too. I am so gald I wnet to a Catholic school, though our salutatorian was a dumb jock with a high IQ :)

<<When I am King (the EMPEROR of KINGS!), I will mandate that on Sundays, all hot women must dress like schoolgirls.>> I grew up with it, so it doesn't have that big an effect on me. I'm certain your school ahd girls in uniform too.

<<Having sex with Aaron in the shower? Gee, I don�t know�..maybe if he wears the Fox wig�..>> You get Aaron distracted, then my cat gets Mara.

Spacebabie is older than I am, but I guess he would eb a technical virgin after kissing the Green Baron :)
Her purity score is higher than mine, last time I checked

Patrick Toman. OJ did what? Attila will talk to him about that. Of course, the real killer may have done that :)

Metaldemon> I don't know Joyce, but I have trouble believing Faulkner better than Tolkein, as Faulkner is American. I have only read tolkein so I won't comment yet. I do think Tolkein, Chesterton, and CS Lewis form a trinity of the best Christian writers for the twentieth century.

As for recycling, Shakespeare was the bigegst recycler of all times, and one of the most celebrated models of English literature.

Lain> <<us army standard-issue 2cm-thick foam sleeping mat, one blanket, two buckets (one for use as a toilet), a one quart canteen, two orange boiler suits, one pair flip-flops, two bath towels, one for washing, one for use as a prayer mat, a washcloth, toothpaste, soap, shampoo and a copy of the Koran.>> That sounds very fair to me. Their basic and spiritual needs are met. It's not a hotel but they are priosners, afterall. At least they aren't forced to do calisthenic exercises every morning.

He shoudl eb strippe dof his American citizenship as should those Britsih Taliban be stripped of their British citizenship. They are citizens of Al-Qaeda and should be treated as such.

Christine> I thought Book of Flesh was about Zombie porn :)

I think Gside is invading my mind.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau
Friday, January 25, 2002 06:20:06 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

Me again ...
Site update -- no new fanfic, but a piece of art by Rodlox in the Gallery, a naughty original short story by moi, and some carious other bits of news. Click or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html
Christine - [christine@sabldrake.com]
Friday, January 25, 2002 05:15:28 PM
IP: 64.24.187.135

Winterwolf > d'oh! Well, oops, typos happen ... anyway, yes, Silversilk is the start of that trilogy and depending on where in the area you are, it might be convenient to pick up a copy at Gary's Games (87th and Greenwood in Seattle) or Totem Books in Monroe, both of which places have it in stock. Or, hey, you could head over to Pasco on Prez. Day weekend for RadCon! The opportunities are limitless!

Christine
Friday, January 25, 2002 04:48:23 PM
IP: 64.24.187.135

**Winterwolf stops for a visit**

Hi. Not much going on at the moment so I figured I had some free time for replies. ;)

Jan> <heh, there's something about tagging your car in the new "home" town/state to make a person feel as if they really belong, huh?> Oddly it really does. It just makes it all so real. Of course the rent checks and other bills with the new address have already come so maybe it's just me being silly. <I, in some ways, was sad to take off my Texas tags but yet I felt like I was *home* once I put on the Missouri tags.> I still have my old tags in the trunk. I've already opened the trunk to look at them a few times just because I can. Did you get to keep your old ones or did they take em?

SOROW> <Hey all. Things have been so crazy up here in Austin that I can't even keep up with you guys. My classes are hell and I'm not sleeping so well. I hope you all are doing alright, send some love my way if you have a sec. :)> **TONS of LOVE just for you** from Dreamie and me. Hope things get better soon.

Josh> <So that's it, huh? Its permanent and all that stuff.> Yeah. Though it could always be changed back. Still I like the change so that's unlikely. <why do you seem like the type of guy to have a schoolgirl fantasy?> Nope, not me. I think you're thinking of SJ.

Stephen> Congrats on the soon to be promotion!

Fire Storm> <Hmm... Warhammer! Large ones! And Hamsters!> Will any of the hamsters be named "Boo"?

Warpmind> <might get a blood-transfusion kit built into my next weapon>Mmm blood.

Christine> <start on the next trilogy> That is the Silversilk trilogy right? I'll have to come by your place for a visit and pick them up to save on postage... ;) Oh btw I did notice once in Archmage you wrote Thom when you where talking about Tahm. I should so show that to him next Gathering. :D

Well I'm off to eat lunch the pick up Dreamie. Bye bye everybody!

**Winterwolf leaves**

Winterwolf
Seattle, WA
Friday, January 25, 2002 03:08:39 PM
IP: 172.182.198.87

Yay, the scary guy at work is gone! Kicked out for damaging the property, hassling the other residents, and stealing food. After eleven years in this biz, there aren't many that give me the creeps and make me feel actually physically unsafe all alone there during the long overnights, but wow, this guy sure did. Glad he's gone. Huzzah!

Josh > that's a shame about all the weirdness you've just been through. It sounds to me like you've been responsible and dealing with it as well as can be expected. Hope all goes well. And for the record (I'm sure I've said this before), no, it's not porn, it's ZOMBIES! ; )

Warpmind > well, if you stay on your heinie a little longer, you can buy Knight of the Basilisk at the same time and save a bit on postage <g>. Looking at March, though no official date's set just yet.

Niahmgold > they made you _buy_ a skull model when there's hundreds of perfectly good ones to be had for free with just a little midnight digging? Sheesh ... first the outrageous prices for books ... then even more outrageous prices for bound photocopies of books ... now this ... academia, pff!

Winterwolf > thank you! I'm delighted that you enjoyed it, and now you can start on the next trilogy!

Jan > that baby's not here yet? Well, as today's Friday, hopefully you'll have some news for us by the next time you post. Good luck to Anna and the wee one with the inducement.

Stephen > thanks for the news, and congrats on the promotion! I'll be looking for your e-mails.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, January 25, 2002 10:03:20 AM
IP: 64.24.187.106

*Warpmind stumbles in, looking part-weary, part-excitable and all bald.*
G'day, everyone. I managed to get involved with the King's Hird the other day; a group that does mostly stage-fighting and such with viking-era weaponry. 'Tis great fun; some of their members were even hired to stage fighting with swords and hobbits for the premiere of LOTR... But DAMN does a two-hour workout come with a vengeance! I think every joint in my body (no, not the dope kind) suffers much the same pains as a hangover must be like... :p

Ah, well, replies.

Lain: Too bad about the headphones, too *weird* abotu the computer... That's MS stability for ya, huh?

Fire Storm: Actually, not so many poodles... I figure looking like they do is punishment enough... };) As for writing... dear me, dear me... Don't you know that to write decent action-based stories, all you gotta do is visualize the thing (or, in this case, things) and act as a reporter? Works just fine for me. :) (But I warn you: it is defined as extremely hazardous for anyone other than myself to start viewing and transcribing the stuff that happens between my ears.) };)

Winterwolf: Drain the life outta people? Um... sorta; unfortunately, not in the vampiric sense. (That *is* *un*fortunate, right?) But I might get a blood-transfusion kit built into my next weapon... whatever that turns out to be.

Gside: Yes, the drink. And, actually, the shot variety. As for the color combo... I think we're thinking the wrong purple here... and not completely insane villains, either. As for the porn Mah-Jongg, well... what can I say? It's a welcome change from strip poker...

SJ: Worshipping the Elder Gods? Bah; if they'd been worshipping THEM, I wouldn't worry. Well, actually, I would, but in a totally different way, if you get my drift...

Josh: No, I'm not an art student. The only thing I can draw anything that looks like a normal human being is when trying to draw an Outer Horror, or something along those lines. And vice versa. As for the numbers... to paraphrase from Terry Pratchett's "Equal Rites": A million-to-one chance usually pans out nine out of ten times. As for the potential... um... well... I think the sum o'the first prize is in the vicinity of 2M USD... but it's usually divided between 5-10 winners, so... Your cut will be reasonable, if the profits can handle it. (My first priority will, of course, be to get to G'02. But if there's enough money for that, there's bound to be some for you, too...) As for the hobby-satanists, the metal issue you mentioned was exactly what I had in mind. Which is why you won't see me standing next to'em in bad weather. At least, not without good insulation.

By the way... Gside's and Josh' mention of drinks makes me think... *Goes off to look up some of the drink names in Spike's fics* Heh... What's the name of that one particular... "A Good Slow Screw Up Against A Wall"? Considering the bartenders at the ground floor bar are all women in their early twenties, that could make for an interesting order... };)

Sarge Abernathy: So the lights were screwy while you did Hamlet, huh? More things between heaven and earth... };)

Well, that kinda kinches it. Later, gang.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, January 25, 2002 04:13:35 AM
IP: 194.54.100.9

::comes into the CR and plops down on the couch::

There's nothing quite like starting your day with an email telling you that the girl who just got tested is NOT pregnant. Sure put a bit of a spring in my step, I'll tell you.

Today was a long day, as all my Thursday's are apt to be for the rest of the semester. In stuctural, we got another assignment on top of our lab, due just two days later. That should...suck. Then in transportation he starts confusing us by telling us we should check books out of the library that are supposed to be photocopied in the reader. Got our first assignment in project management. I'm looking forward to an engineering class that doesn't involve much actual math. And then in transport lab we found out about our lab project, which is a semester-long trio of reports on what to do about a hypothetical weaving problem on a freeway on/off ramp. That should be fairly interesting, but I think its gonna take a lot of time.

Thank goodness I had a lunch break somewhere in there. If I had to work from 8 to 5 without eating...I'd flip.

Patrick: <<lotteries and casino games where the odds of winning are a lot less than 1 in 20 (5%), but tell people that something is "95% effective" and they take that to mean "guaranteed sucess" even though it also means "5% chance of failure">>: Your statement is backwards. Yes, it does mean 5% chance of failure. But you know something? If there were a casino game that only had a 5% chance of failure, you'd have camped out at the table. And you'd always come out ahead, because that's how probability works. Its not unreasonable to expect a condom to work properly. But not every time.

Spacebabie: <<Woo Freakin Hoo I'm done with my paper. and it won't be due till five more days>>: Overacheiver. I'd have done exactly the same thing. <>: I bet that was a pretty picture. <<Why did the gaurds forget their sprig of parsley or are the taliban not allowed to watch tv?>>: LOL! <<do I need to steal some lubes from Crzy?>>: I bet he'd love that. <<Yes I am good boy>>: Do I get a treat? <<Yes but does he speak English?>>: yes! <<First day of my classes I learned I have paper due the 29th>>: That's a long way away. <<All starter cars should be simple>>: Ah of course. Well at 25, I wasn't expecting you to get a starter car. <<Boy did I luck out, of course I am an ENGLISH major>>: Yeah, I suppose you did take the easy route. <<You confessed to me I confessed to your, Tit for Tat:::Stop laughing>>: I'm not laughing.

Lain: <<for the first time in my university career, i learned something today in class>>: I remember that day! <<very useful information, you know>>: Does that mean you can get a job now? <<as they are not "prisoners of war" they are denied the privilages that the geneva convention would provide. they are also not being held on US soil, which means they are not afforded privalages of US prisonners>>: Gee, maybe we intended it that way... <<yes josh, i know you are right about everything. why the heck didnt i listen to you in the first place? i should have known better.. i guess you must chalk it up to the fact that i am a liberal arts student, and therefore have no sense whatsoever>>: Well, though I was right in this case, I think its fair to assume from recent events that I am not right about everything. <<youd probably feel the same way>>: My dad suggests microwaving it. <<dont deny your urges... you might get more>>: Yeah, more kids! <<maybe its all the porn>>: You have porn!? Sweet! We should trade ;-)

DPH: <<I'm mad>>: Aren't we all? <>: are you a friend-boy? <<If you can't guess how I feel about your recent problems, tough luck>>: Thanks, I think. <<Is there any time that you post in the CR when you're in what I consider to be a good mood?>>: that depends on your definition. Personally, I thought he was in a great mood last night. <<why are there so many award shows>>: So everyone can feel special.

Cyberklaw: <<I've never fully figured out why>>: Don't worry, when I take over there will be a sci-fi geek on the panel of every one of these things.

Fire Storm: <<Warhammer!...And Hamsters!>>: I see...red spots. <>: Gee, thanks, I think. <<do you really want it to cut it off inside of you?>>: how about just dentricles surrounding the opening? Then it would never get in. <>: Just one? <<She was NOT attractive>>: Then why were you having sex with her? <<But NOT 24 year olds with a steady job>>: My friend is the son of the guy who owns Cherokee, Inc. Started his own tech company that is still making money. Couldn't get a credit card, even with his dad as a co-signer, until he was 20. <<Then you found a winner!>>: So true. <>: when I heard this story, I remember that the girl I lost it to also told me to forget the rubber (I made her wait until we got one). I am SO glad I insisted. Now she's a crack whore. <<apparently impossible for you>>: You'd better be careful, I'm gonna rule the world soon. <<what pleasant dreams>>: If you say so. <<You can't go fast enough>>: That's why warp drives were invented. <<two rules for success>>: LOL!

Stephen: <<Area Manager>>: What Area do you manage? The restroom? <<But, this is for personal use>>: Um, der. Do you really think a mac can't be used for personal use? Okay but now I have to know what you spent. And it looks like you got jacked on stats too.

Sarge Abernathy: <<felt like Claifornia!>>: Where is Claifornia? <>: Very good, young jedi.

If brute force doesn't work, you're not using enough.
-Mike Margolis

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, January 25, 2002 03:29:46 AM
IP: 64.161.24.212

ok, i'm freaked out.

on top of everything that has happened thththtis week, someone has stolen another one of my names, this time on yahoo!

the name they stole was an admin name for my club! i'm afraid that if they find out about that, it will be deleted too!

that is gonna SUCK! i gotta find this person! but now i'm closer than i ever will be. hahaha

well, hope everyone else has a good next few days!

*sigh*

-={King- blah blah blah, you all know my name}=-

Terrky K - [terry_kath_2ooo@yahoo.com]
Kansas
Friday, January 25, 2002 12:12:59 AM
IP: 63.252.221.172

sorry for the double post. Computer acting weird.
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:21:16 PM
IP: 152.163.197.181

Well today was a weird day. The school blacked out for a half hour. . . . felt like Claifornia!!!

*crickets chrip*

okay bad joke. . . . but anyway. . . a car crashed near a bridge next to the school. The lights flickered once, and then sometime later during AP english it flickered again. And today was the FINAL for the Hamlet acting. . . we WERE going to tape but without light it was useless. . . so we took our costumes off, cleaned up and headed back to my classroom. THEN the lights came one and my teacher screamed at us to go back down to the auditorium, get dressed, and perform!

I was Horatio. *smiles big*

My Uncle is here. He's a great guy to be with. Funny to foola round with. But sometimes he says some conservative or anti-liberal things that tick me off. I've learned to ignore it as best as I can and love him as the uncle he is. He made us a steak with tarragon adn soy sauce and i thought I would die and go to heaven! HMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm STEAK!

I might go to a party this saturday with friends. I'd miss an opprtunity ot see the airport and all the security, and the chance to set off metal detectors. . . . but hey there's always next year!

Know what I found out? The U.S. territory of Guam has a plebiscite to see if it wants to become a U.S. state or independent on the SAME day as my birthday THIS year! Cool huh?

Okay so about everyone who've I told rolled their eyes. . . but I think it is cool!

IMZADI>>>My uncle came and he had his dell 3500 (or some number) and I checked it out. I didn't like it much. The graphics were weird and stuff. I think i want a Mac.

TOMAN>>><<<In the news > The two biggest stories yesterday morning: Mike Tyson bites Lennox Lewis, and O.J. Simpson questioned after ex-girlfriend goes missing. Man, for a moment it felt like the 90s were back again. >>> What decade are we in? In the 1900's they called them the ots. . . . are we in the O-o's or the zeroes? Anyway I know what you mean. History deems to be repeating itself and they say that only happens when you don't learn from it. We must've forgotten something back in the 90's.

LAIN>>><<<my computer.. fixed itself.. BY itself.. inexplicably. dont ask me, i dont know. to the best of my knowledge, its not posessed (it never met warpmind..) but i dunno.. maybe its all the porn.. :P >>> Wear garlic and keep your computer in a circle of salt and candles. If your roomate makes a comment or asks something throw a mixture of olive oil and scented oil at her, gasp some words in some unknown language and then continue to perform voodoo magic to heal your computer of the devil that possess it. If it IS the porn. . . . well the same routine might help.

AFGHANISTAN>>> I wouln't mind going there to visit the old ruins of the palaces and other places that were destroyed by the Taliban, it would be interesting. But first they're going to have to get rid of a few landmines, some crazy warlords, and Mr. Osama. . . . I always want to ask my afghan friend about what it was like over there. But he managed to escape war and I don't ever want to bring the subject up.
As for Afghanistan itself. Je ne sais pas. Now with the Taliban gone there appears to be a stable community with some threats. But this is only my impression. I doubt that is what it truely is. The country has been in war for so long and it will go through war for a lot longer.

sorry for the typos

BTW I love this Elisa Picture
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:18:55 PM
IP: 152.163.197.181

Greetings all...

Well, today was a bit of a surprise.

In that at work, my boss came in to hand out uniforms and clothing items the crew had ordered from last month. I'd just ordered some new crew shoes (mine are starting to fall apart as I near my first annaversary with this store), but those take a while to get in, so I wasn't expecting anything...

but then, my boss comes over with two shirts in her hand, hands them to me and says "Don't wear these until I tell you to.".

I was stunned! Because these shirts, FYI, are the type you only get to wear when you're certified as a Area Manager in full. In short, the months of waiting, working and basically kicking my own ass around to prove I could handle the tasks of an Area Manager have paid off! As soon as the paperwork and such is finished, I'll be able to truely call myself an Area Manager; complete with the responsibilities, the full pay, and the clear course ahead to start working towards becoming a REAL Manager!

Cool, huh? Well, I thought it was...

Anyway, replies!

LOTR COMMENTS - True, it's history and fact most sci-fi and fantasy films never garner the top awards when the ceremonies hit... but, hey, we can all dream can't we?

JOSH - <<MAC! MAC!>> I wish... considering you can do wonders in graphic arts and desktop design on Macs. But, this is for personal use, so I had to settle for PC... but it's a way better machine than my current "Igor" P1/200mmx. The new machine's going to have:

AMD Duron 950mhz processor on a Socket A Mother
256mb PC133 SDRAM (expandible to 1 Gig, I think)
20 Gig Hard Drive
50x CD Rom
12x/6x/40x CDRW Drive (FINALLY!)
10/100 PC Ethernet Card

With the standard mouse, keyboard and speakers... which I plan to swap out for my ergo-board, and a better sound card and video card in the future. But for now, I'm stoked! Just got to pay it off before April 10th, and make my birthday rock with all the computing power I'll have (albeit not much, considering other machines and such...but you have to take what little life gives you, eh?).

CHRISTINE - Special note, should have stuff for Sabledrake by Sunday. Wish me luck! ^_^

Well, that's all for me for now... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Thursday, January 24, 2002 07:07:03 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

david g>> huh? can you do that again cos i think i missed it..

*i* was talking about the people being held in cuba who were transported there from afganistan.
calling them "Taliban prisoners" gave me that impression. if i missinterpreted, then im sorry.

the people captured in afganistan are NOT "prisoners," nor CAN they be called that.. that was kinda what my post was about..
so now.. im just confused..
(but thats not new.. :P)

could you try wording your post a little differently so i can get my brain on the same wavelength as yours?
lain
Thursday, January 24, 2002 07:01:35 PM
IP: 64.228.198.4

Winterwolf: <Well Warpmind seemed more interested in a blunt weapon so how about some war hammers or spiked flails (if you want a compromise)>
Hmm... Warhammer! Large ones!
And Hamsters!

Jan: <Remember, drugs are our friends>
DEFINATELY!
They gave me Meth for the pain. Works wonders.
Can't sleep. ;)

Gside: <Then look up the course at the college you're likely to go to.>
Na. Too easy.
<Never invited him back to your place for a three way?>
He's not my type. To effeminate.
I prefer the manly butch types like you an Imzadi.
<Maybe something like reverse shark teeth?>
Hmm... that could work too!
But do you really want it to cut it off inside of you?

Hey, I want my MP3!

SJ: <Good girl. Those kind are hard to find. No bags, and she�s into the act itself>
She was NOT attractive.
<Sounds like a party at my house>
Mmm... warm and wet! The starting of decomposition!
<And I am firmly in that camp myself>
You would be!
<Maybe, but then the necrophilia comes into play again>
And opens up new holes!
<Somewhere, Wilek is sharpening an axe, and has a crazy glint in his eyes.>
Yeah... I bet he is!

Imzadi: <Well, not credit. You can get credit without other credit. Hell, they send credit cards to 16 year olds>
But NOT 24 year olds with a steady job.
<Sorry to hear that>
They say it is healing good, but I don't think so.

Why not? Klingons and peanut butter is a good combo.
<Most, yes. But every once in a while I meet one who is...only two of those three>
Then you found a winner!
<And I keep posting here too! Seriously, though, you don't know the half of it>
I think everyone knows weird people like that.
<That would get a "see you around" from me. I try not to be stupid>
I used a condom but I wish I DID say "See you around"
<Being perfect is tough>
And apparently impossible for you.
<You're both dreaming>
Ah, what pleasant dreams.
<At what speed?>
You can't go fast enough.

There are two rules for success in life
1. Never tell people everything -The_Captain

Fire Storm
Thursday, January 24, 2002 05:42:02 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

On the subject of LOTR not winning any Golden Globes, well, I wasn't expecting it to. I love LOTR and fully believe it deserves to have won, but I know how these things work. Sci-fi/fantasy films never win at these major awards ceremonies beyond the technical catergories. In fact, here's a challenge, can anyone name a time that a sci-fi or fantasy film won one of the major awards at either the Oscars or Golden Globes?

It's just a simple fact that while there are many who like and enjoy both science-fiction and fantasy (me included), the genre is generally sneered upon by pretty much everyone else. I've never fully figured out why, but I have accepted that's the way things are.

So, on to....

FARSCAPE SPOILERS!!! WARNING, MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD!!
**********************************************************

Farscape 3.20 - "Into The Lion's Den, Part 1 - Lambs To The Slaughter"

The previous episode was the set up, and this is the pay off. There is simply so much crammed in here its amazing.

Basically, Crichton and the gang go to Scorpius' command carrier so that he can begin helping him with the wormhole technology (and find a way to sabotage his plans from within). And much tension and many manipulations ensue.

There's simply to much goingon here for me to fit everything in. Whatever I put here won't do it justice, you'll just have to see it yourself. But some highlights (some, not all) include:

Rygel finding out what's been going on back in the Hynerian Empire under his cousin's rule. Crais is reunited with an old lover. Aeryn runs into a friend of hers from before she left the Peacekeepers.

One of the best moments is when a commandant from the Peacekeeper high command turns up, trying to shut down Scorpius's project. Seems they're trying to establish a truce with the scarrans and his wormhole research could aggravate them. Scorpy is not happy about any of this. It turns out that the Peacekeepers have been trying to make a number of alliances, but keep getting laughed at because of, and I quote "our simple inability to recapture a group of escaped prisoners whose exploits are becoming legendary".

Even better is the ending. Be warned, if you don't want to know what happens, DO NOT read on!

The final scene of the episode is between Crichton and Scorpius. Scorpy feels John is stalling, not giving his full co-operation on the wormhole project, so he offers up some incentive. He reveals that he has located Earth! He also reveals that even without wormholes, it is reachable, at top speed, it could be reached in 60 years. Scorpy goes on to say that if John continues to hold back, he will make sure that he lives just long enough to see his homeworld destroyed... and then it's 'to be continued'

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END OF FARSCAPE SPOILERS.... more soon....

That's all from me, folks!

cyberklaw - [cyberklaw@yahoo.com]
London, UK
Thursday, January 24, 2002 05:07:54 PM
IP: 64.12.104.33

Lain> Not the various American citizens being detained by the FBI and whatnot, the prisoners of war captured during military operations in Afganastan. They're "prisoners."

By the way, is your computer still all wonky? I'll try to check with my brother tomorrow if you still need help.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, January 24, 2002 05:06:25 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Wilek & others - I need some fresh ideas for torturing a CR villain. I'm currently in the mood for giving the person the memories of 10 years being on the run to stay alive, with the added bonus of every time that person trusted someone else (free will or forced to) that other person betrayed the trust. Oh yea, I will also add some programming keeping the person from committing suicide. See below for which one.

I'm mad. I can't seem to catch up on my sleep so I have a constant headache as a result. I dont' know off-hand which CR villain to blame, but when I get my hands on him/her, . . .

Imzadi - That works for mail.com. Everytime, I go into yahoo email with internet explorer, it assumes I want to use "dph_of_rules".

Terrky - <today is also the 24th anniversary of Terry Kath's death.> So. My dad (or was it my brother) reminded that Monday was the anniversary of my mom's death back in 1995. Dad reminded me that a few days before that was the anniversary of my grandmother's (mom's side) death.

Yesterday was a really good day. How so? Tuesday afternoon, I got a call from a friend I haven't heard from in a couple of months. Yesterday, afternoon, I spent some time with her, helping her pick out a new kitten for her mother. (She insists that the kitten be litter-box trained; mine aren't, but they stay outside most of the time.) I was able to relax. [I don't stay relaxed normally.]

Apparantly, my car was spotted visiting her by her ex or a friend of her ex. She was concerned about me. She let me a rumor fly that she had re-married so that her ex would leave her alone.

Winterwolf - <The other way would be to get the heat to pump into the system from somewhere else. Such as, using a portal between Tropical Zone to balance with your Temperate Zone.>

Imzadi - If you can't guess how I feel about your recent problems, tough luck. <Jokes aside, my brother has the same problem. Poor kid is only 13 and he's had 12 teeth pulled.> Hmm. Too bad we can't arrange for 2 more of his teeth to be pulled.

SJ - Is there any time that you post in the CR when you're in what I consider to be a good mood?

Dumb question: why are there so many award shows?

DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, January 24, 2002 04:33:14 PM
IP: 204.94.193.11

wow.. for the first time in my university career, i learned something today in class..
i learned that "alliance atlantis" is a canadian company. i learned the "rca" stands for "radio corporation of america" and that they were a company made by the us navy after the first world war..
nbc was founded in 1925..
i learned which factors contributed to the formation of the bbc, and why it was and is different from the american broadcasters, why the "mission: impossible" series was so popular, why the canadian broadcasting system doesnt know what to do with itself and why my grandmother only gets bbc1, bbc2, itv and bbc4 on her tv.

..very useful information, you know..

spacebabie>> <<Honestly They are PRISONERS not guests.>> actually, they are NOT prisoners.. note that in the news, they are always called "detainees" which, while being a small difference in wording, makes a large difference in how they are treated and what rights they have/dont have under international law. america cannot claim they are "prisonners of war" per se, because in order to be a prisoner of war, you have to have been fighting for a country. they werent fighting for afganistan, they were fighting for the taliban, which is a cause, not a country.
the current controversy, especially coming out of britain, is concerning a "set of officially sanctioned photographs taken in Camp X-Ray, the detention centre at the US base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, as evidence of humiliating treatment of the prisoners. The pictures show the prisoners, manacled hand and foot, kneeling before their guards, and wearing blacked-out goggles over their eyes and masks over their mouths and noses." note these are "officially sanctioned" photographs. if id seen those photographs, i might be wondering what was going on there, too. so i went and found them. go visit http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1771000/1771816.stm if you want to see them, too.
yes yes, i know they are the big bad stinky evil taliban, but the united states is still bound by law to treat detainees "humanely" (whataver that means..)
as they are not "prisoners of war" they are denied the privilages that the geneva convention would provide. they are also not being held on US soil, which means they are not afforded privalages of US prisonners (unlike this walker dude, who remains a us citizen and therefore is supposed to get all the rights on a us citizen, including being innocent until proven guilty). many of the taliban fighters are not citizens of afganistan, either. a number of them are british, for example.
and were not talking sprigs of parsley and televisions. were talking cells that are 2.4m by 1.8m, and about 2.4m tall, with concrete floors, corrugated roofing, and wire mesh walls (hence the name "camp x-ray")
each prisoner has been given:
us army standard-issue 2cm-thick foam sleeping mat, one blanket, two buckets (one for use as a toilet), a one quart canteen, two orange boiler suits, one pair flip-flops,
two bath towels, one for washing, one for use as a prayer mat, a washcloth, toothpaste, soap, shampoo and a copy of the Koran.

now, as for me having an opinion on this.. well.. i dont have one. yet, anyways. all i am trying to do is share information. i havent seen enough information to decide whether i think they are being mistreated or not. i know *I* sure wouldnt want to be at "camp x-ray" but then, it *IS* a prison and i dont think youre SUPPOSED to want to be there..

josh>> <<Next time, buy a mac. Have you ever heard me
come into the CR with this problem? No.>> *sigh* yes josh, i know you are right about everything. why the heck didnt i listen to you in the first place? i should have known better.. i guess you must chalk it up to the fact that i am a liberal arts student, and therefore have no sense whatsoever..
and the cat? if youd met that fat orange furball and had the experience of it pouncing on you, wrapping all of its paws around your arm, gripping tightly with its front paws and kicking and scratching your elbow with its back claws while biting your hand.. youd probably feel the same way..
<<To deny our impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human.>> or, to quote my bisexual quasi-goth friend tamara from highschool.. "dont deny your urges... you might get more!)

gside, sarge>> my computer.. fixed itself.. BY itself.. inexplicably. dont ask me, i dont know. to the best of my knowledge, its not posessed (it never met warpmind..) but i dunno.. maybe its all the porn.. :P

right so.. anyway..
lain "irrational exuberance" iwakura - [<<- - everybody... YATTA!!! ;)]
the Great White North, eh?
Thursday, January 24, 2002 04:28:49 PM
IP: 64.228.198.4

Todd> <<the professional critics were appalled>>
Well, they shouldn't be since the general public probably won't be able to understand what Joyce did or why he is considerd the greatest writer of the century. LOTR is a great story; however, stories don't always merit literary acheivement since most stories are recycled; Joyce isn't considered the greatest novelist of the century because of his plot in "Ulysses," but because of what he did with the English language. I seriously believe Tolkein could not do what Joyce did with language and style, and it's a lot more than choosing pretty words to describe something. Tolkein is a great writer; however, I don't consider him to be on par with Faulkner, Joyce, etc.
And the allusions to "The Odyssey" in "Ulysses" are VERY subtle; Joyce called it that because he was searching for a modern day hero.
metaldemon
denton
Thursday, January 24, 2002 03:41:46 PM
IP: 24.219.165.75

Woo Freakin Hoo I'm done with my paper. and it won't be due till five more days.

Last night on of my tubes of oild paint broke and I had a heck of time cleaning it up. The worse part was that my cat Charisma got some of her paws. I first tired clean it while my mother held her and I used a nail brush to scrub. then I noticed more paint. So I did what I should have done in the first place. I put on an apron and some gloves filled the bottom of the tub with water and mr bubble and put her in the tub and used a large scrubby brush with flea and tick soap.
That did the trick.
Jan<<<The bleeding hearts are already complaining about the Taliban prisoners being mistreated>>>Why did the gaurds forget their sprig of parsley or are the taliban not allowed to watch tv? Honestly They are PRISONERS not guests. Were supposed to treat them like prisoners, not coddle them.

Todd<<<I've read that the reason why LOTR lost to "A Beautiful Mind" in the Golden Globe Awards was that the awarders considered LOTR too popular for them to give an award to (presumably on the basis of "if the public likes it, it can't be all that good").>>> Wait a minute! How many goldend globes did Titanic win? And don�t tell me it wasn�t poular.

Skippy>>> I have a better idea make him live with Janet Reno. Making him live in the nation he doesn�t like and with an uber bitch would be a fitting punishment.

SJ<<<It�s a proven fact that all dentists are taught by CIA specialists on the fine art of torture.>>>Little Shop of Horrors much?<<<as are so many of the middleschool girls today>>> You keep forgetting I�m in college. Or do I need to steal some lubes from Crzy?<<<Yes. On PPV! Hell, just stick him in a cage with Tyson, it�d be over quick enough. >>>Hey that�s better than my idea with Jan Reno.

Sorrow<<<My classes are hell and I'm not sleeping so well.>>> Here have some mega healthy healing good luck vibes.

Josh<<<Not so much about my ex. That psycho can rot in hell for all I care (aren't you glad I'm handling this so maturely!?), >>> Yes I am good boy.<<<My 9AM class was Geotech engineering. I think its gonna be pretty cool. The prof seems nice and funny, and at least today's lecture was interesting. I hope the rest of my semester goes that way.>>>Yes but does he speak English?<<<And later this afternoon I had my structural engineering lab. It was awful. He lectured for half of it, then we spent the other half doing problems! And the problems that we didn't finish are due as an extra homework assignment on tuesday! WTF!? We already GET a weekly homework assignment!>>>First day of my classes I learned I have paper due the 29th.<<<Your loss ;-)>>> My gain :P<<<Oh my god.>>> A starter car. All starter cars should be simpleof course my dream car would be a porshe but I don�t see myself getting one anytime soon.<<>> Boy did I luck out, of course I am an ENGLISH major.<<<Why are you telling me this?>>>You confessed to me I confessed to your, Tit for Tat:::Stop laughing:::
Spacebabie
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:04:45 PM
IP: 65.57.80.50

I don't think that it should be that much of a surprise that the Golden Globes didn't give any awards to LOTR, when one thinks it over; the literary establishment has always been, for the most part, leery towards Tolkien, partly because of the subject matter (they view mythic fantasy as mere escapism unless it's done in a modern-setting adaptation a la James Joyce's treatment of the Odysseus legend in "Ulysses"), partly because of his popularity. When a poll was made in the UK a few years ago about what people considered to be the greatest book of the 20th century, "The Lord of the Rings" won first place (except in Wales, where the winner was the aforementioned "Ulysses"); the professional critics were appalled; and the "Daily Telegraph" even decided to repeat the poll among its readers, only to discover that they too chose "The Lord of the Rings". A couple more polls got the same results (the one exception was a poll where LOTR came in No. 2, but No. 1 was the Bible). Tom Shippey (a noted Tolkien scholar who has the particular advantage of being familiar with the Old Norse and Old English works that were Tolkien's inspiration, in the original - and who, by the way, currently lives here in St. Louis - I've even met him a couple of times at Tolkien events) has a piece about it in his book "J.R.R. Tolkien: Author of the Century" (a very good book that I'd like to recommend to everybody here interested in LOTR).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, January 24, 2002 07:26:29 AM
IP: 63.183.39.141

Re: condoms > It's interesting how people will view odds and chance differently depending on their expectations of the outcome. Lots of people spend lots of money looking to hit lotteries and casino games where the odds of winning are a lot less than 1 in 20 (5%), but tell people that something is "95% effective" and they take that to mean "guaranteed sucess" even though it also means "5% chance of failure". That means in every box of 20 condoms, statistically there is one that will not work as designed.

In the news > The two biggest stories yesterday morning: Mike Tyson bites Lennox Lewis, and O.J. Simpson questioned after ex-girlfriend goes missing. Man, for a moment it felt like the 90s were back again.

And just so there's something in this post vaguely related to Gargoyles, here's another news item. The U.S. government has hired Disney to teach them how airline security workers can remain pleasant and cheerful while doing their jobs, just like the workers at Disneyworld and Disneyland. Yes, that means very soon the white rubber gloves they put on before doing those body cavity searches will have only FOUR fingers. ;)
"I'm on the Zoloft, but I use that to keep me from killin' y'all." - more words of wisdom from Mike Tyson
Patrick Toman
Thursday, January 24, 2002 06:57:16 AM
IP: 66.72.203.132

I'm feeling a bit less stressed today, though not for any apparent reason. I didn't sleep last night at all. I'm still feeling neurotic about this whole situation. Not so much about my ex. That psycho can rot in hell for all I care (aren't you glad I'm handling this so maturely!?), whether she's telling the truth or not. This is just...wrong. But this other girl, I like her. And she trusted me. And now she may be pregnant...that hurts.

My 9AM class was Geotech engineering. I think its gonna be pretty cool. The prof seems nice and funny, and at least today's lecture was interesting. I hope the rest of my semester goes that way.

I've decided to take an extra class, just because its 1 unit, I need it to graduate, and its easier to take it now when I have free time than try to work a schedule around it later. It's an "ethics in engineering" course. I should laugh it off, but they want actually writing! A paper and 5 mini-essays on some of the lectures. And reading! This is like real work! Bastards. Oh well, better now than later.

And later this afternoon I had my structural engineering lab. It was awful. He lectured for half of it, then we spent the other half doing problems! And the problems that we didn't finish are due as an extra homework assignment on tuesday! WTF!? We already GET a weekly homework assignment!

Gside: <<so excited was I about being reunited with DII, I forgot about the time until I had just about a scant eight hours in which to sleep before my next class>>: That's nothing. My roommate was so excited about DII that he didn't sleep before his classes ;-) <<There's always the chance a different college uses a different and cheaper book>>: The probability is high that any college will use a different book, but low that it will actually be cheaper. <<Having some problems with the boss before?>>: The boss thought he was serious, and responded in kind. <<According to Wilek, no>>: Hell, now I'm starting to wonder if I should join him. <<Anyone remember if they spent undue attention to Des?>>: I would have. <<most people don't really like the idea of things going in our outs>>: Interesting way you've phrased that. <>: You do? <>: Argh fine I get it! Its a squirrel! <<will it change the environment that much?>>: It'll be unliveable...DOH! <<You can't expect dwarves to get away with a pansy elvish complexion, can you?>>: Well, they have so much facial hair and dark armor, it'd be tough to otice. <>: Sadly, no. <<you're going to hit me, right?>>: Probably not. I'm usually peaceful, despite my belligerence (sp?). <<he was talking about Skippy the Klingon>>: I know that. <>: Maybe they just haven't tried yet. <<He'll be with me. In the biblical sense>>: In your wildest dreams. And my worst nightmares. <<Join us, do not be afraid>>: I'm not. And I only do it for early morning classes, since I have nothing immediately after and I can go home and jump in. But every day this semester has an early morning class... <<That is a lot of why this place is here>>: I've noticed. Hope I didn't offend anyone. <<I've managed to live three years with completely random roomies, and I've survived>>: I think you've had better luck than most. <<First period tomorrow. Why does Sanuti hate me?>>: I have first period tuesday AND thursday. And second period monday and wednesday. <<not the bomber, right?>>: Very good. <<there's a drink called an Alien Secretion.>>: Forget that. There's a drink called Sex on the Beach. <<Even porn mahjong>>: I'm not gonna ask. <<That sounds like the power supply is going. Or at least one of the fans. Those shouldn't be too expensive>>: Ugh. Not pleasant. <<Most of our professors speak Chingrish or the eastern European equivalent>>: What is that eastern European equivalent called? <<You couldn't get special permission numbers?>>: We don't have those here, lucky dog. <<Never invited him back to your place for a three way?>>: With who? <<Maybe something like reverse shark teeth?>>: OUCH. <>: Only the latter is correct. <<this may not be appropriate, but the new mp3 is Sexual Healing by Marvin Gaye>>: Didn't stop you from posting it. Yeah, don't worry about it. I'm only overly sensitive to christians and virgins right now ;-)

Warpmind: <<logic goes out the window>>: You're an art student? <<if she had her age set to a specific instant when she and MacBeth made their deal, it COULD happen>>: But she was bitchy before that happened... <<you've had protected sex. With condoms. And it looks like, in doing so, you've gotten TWO girls pregnant. *Blink* Dude... you got armor piercing sperms, or something?>>: Well, there was *brief* unprotected contact in both cases...but yes, I do start to wonder. <<give me seven numbers from 1 to 34, eh?>>: Actually, that implies that I have BAD luck. Statistically, I probably won't even guess your 7 numbers correctly in the right number of tries. But here goes anyway: 17, 29, 3, 8, 13, 20, 23. Best of luck. <<I'll cut you in on the profits>>: what's the potential here? And what's my cut? Note that it will be documented in here... ;-) <<Think lightning rod>>: With all the metal they wear, they could BE the lightning rods. <<Word Test>>: Vocabulary? <<Wish me luck. Or any other suitable abstract feature>>: Fear?

Skippy: <<she's just reveling in it>>: That explains a lot.

Kathy: <<Condoms in and of themselves are not an effective method of birth control. You must used them in conjunction with a spermicide before achieving a 95% or better effective rate>>: ::holds up box of trojans:: "treated with spermicide". Although I realize as I read that...I've gotten a bunch of free condoms from various sources, most probably not so treated. But by themselves, they still have a higher probability of preventing conception than any other method, even if its not 95%. <<condoms *MUST* be applied soon after erection because there are sperm present in pre ejaculate>>: Actually, I did know this. I just didn't realize how little contact was required, and again no penetration without a condom ever took place.

The Wizard: <<People who don't get work for me done should DIE>>: Maybe he'll weed out some of your more foolish classmates. <<I've got a resume review>>: Good luck with that. I had my resume torn apart three times by three different people before it shipped. <<now I have Thursdays off as opposed to Mondays>>: No more three day weekend? <<Too bad I'm not a cat person>>: Anti point. <<Isn't it beautiful? And so meticulously crafted, too>>: Thank you both so much. It means a lot coming from an artist AND an aeronautics engineer. Two people who appreciate form AND function. <<Ooh, I'll volunteer>>: I didn't know you were a schizo. <<Daddy>>: Um...probably not the best thing to refer to me as right now. Or any other time. <<Gas prices in LA were cheaper than NH, actually. It was San Fran that was really high>>: Yeah, all those dot-commers in the bay can afford to pay high prices. <<maybe it was _my_ bad luck extended over onto your family>>: Except that last time I was home someone died too. <<it was fit to walk in LA>>: True. <<Much better :) You'll be my resume editor>>: Does this position pay? <<Another useless apple product>>: Not useless, just buggy. It actually serves a purpose, but quite frankly I think its release could have been delayed by a month or two. <<iVibe>>: Heh, heh. <<we had to bring him _somewhere_ the next morning>>: Oh, right. Good point. <<If you weren't meant to live through that, you'd already be dead. You'll get through this, I'm sure. Nothing you can do until you know, at least>>: That doesn't make me feel much better. <<Bananas>>: Nuts?

Lain: <<all the icons are inexplicably huge, as is this comment room.. and the graphics on my wallpaper are screwy (probably because they are also huge..) and all of my windows are really ginormous, too.>>: Is the resolution set to 640x480? <<now its buzzing really loudly at me, too>>: Um. <<WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON>>: Next time, buy a mac. Have you ever heard me come into the CR with this problem? No. <<oi josh, quit gloating>>: BuWAHAHAHAHA. <>: Don't hurt the kitty! <<yeah that was me.. but you all knew that, right?>>: Der.

Mecord: <<sorry don't know what to do about the buzzing>>: Rip out the sound card 8-) <<As a species we always seem to be killing each other off>>: I define that as competitive, not self-destructive. <<As many as she�ll let me>>: LOL 1. <>: Coal does lovely things for the respiratory system too. <<Wouldn�t she have hit menopause by now?>>: Not if she's immortally frozen in one age.

David G: <>: Der.

Spacebabie: <<it had one of those Darwin fish being eaten by a Jesus Fish, except instead of Jesus it had tthe words Truth>>: ... <<Won't be a beamer>>: Your loss ;-) <>: Oh my god. <<too much teeth for my little mouth to handle>>: Jokes aside, my brother has the same problem. Poor kid is only 13 and he's had 12 teeth pulled. <>: I meant he doesn't have a thick accent that makes him hard to understand, like many CE profs. <<anything that is like art is fun>>: To you, perhaps. <>: Its alright, I'm not the only one...some people don't shower for a lot more than 1 hour after waking up 8-) <<what are you now? An angry Koala or a sad Polar Bear?>>: Something like that. <<I�m glad you can feel to confide to us>>: Me too. Somehow I think my best friend would say "quit yer bitchin". <<It�s not your fault and its not women in general>>: Well, at least part of the blame rests on me, for obvious reasons. As for women in general...lets just say I can't apply every foul comment I have to all of them, but they seem to apply to MOST of them. <<just those in your messed up neck of the state aka Berkley>>: Actually, she wasn't a Berkeley student. I met her at summer camp, but she did live in the area. Yes, the women here are f*cked up. <<In fact I�ll confess something to you. I�m still a virgin. I have been around the bases but I never slid home, so I�m not exactly pure or chaste>>: Why are you telling me this? <<Hey the only thing I stick in my motuh and inhale is my astma puffer>>: Heh, heh... <<Hate to burst your bubble but other students arragne their classes so they have three day weekends>>: And probably have an easier time of it than I do. <<I�m only taking one class. I wanted three but the other two I need were filled>>: Now I really hate you. <<The cat ate your headphones? What the frell is wrong with that cat?>>: He's hungry.

Fire Storm: <Same could be said about credit and money>>: Well, not credit. You can get credit without other credit. Hell, they send credit cards to 16 year olds. <<It just isn't healing right>>: Sorry to hear that. <<Now that is a scary thought>>: You're telling me. <<Would the chunky peanut butter have parts of Klingon in it?>>: I hope not. <<A risk, yes, but they will probably turn around.>>: Then why are you asking advice? <<Women are evil, manipulative, unforgiving...>>: Most, yes. But every once in a while I meet one who is...only two of those three ;-) <<LM's right behind me, isn't she?>>: Ready to smack us both. <<You know some really f$c&ed up people, you know that?>>: And I keep posting here too! Seriously, though, you don't know the half of it. <<She wanted me to NOT use a condom>>: That would get a "see you around" from me. I try not to be stupid. <>: Good for you. <<GET YOUR GIRLS ON THE PILL>>: Believe me, I will. The irony of all this is that after every girl, I swear never to make the same mistake again. And I never make that mistake again. I make a different one. Being perfect is tough. <<but they seemed to like Goliath>>: Ewwww... <<You animal!>>: You're both dreaming. <<If you throw a cat out a car window, does it become kitty litter?>>: At what speed?

Winterwolf: <<my car is now properly licensed and registered in Washington>>: So that's it, huh? Its permanent and all that stuff. <<Dreamie has been spending almost all of her time on schoolwork>>: Welcome to my world. <>: Chika bow bow...why do you seem like the type of guy to have a schoolgirl fantasy? <<That was a Professional Reference>>: Sadly, as I am not a professional, I didn't get it. <<She has some serious issues>>: No kidding. <<It's not like you can do much when you find out afterwards>>: I agree. But my bigger problem is that I may have affected the life of a girl that I'm ACTUALLY interested because I didn't have this information to make me paranoid a year ago. <<There that should make things easier>>: Not really...they're just solid-body problems...at least at the beginning. <<Don't let that roommate of yours treat you with anything but respect>>: Then kick 'em in the nyuts!

Jan: <<The situation with the former girlfriend sounds a bit fishy to me (her story>>: I didn't think about that. But you could be right. <>: I'm a little torn up about it. I'll recover, but I'll harbor ill feelings towards her (and general suspicion about the entire planet) for the rest of my life, I think. I thought I had trust issues before! <<This has to got be playing some major mental and emotional games with you>>: Yeah a bit. <>: You bet. And to find out the way I did hurt too. <<This experience could be a valuable lesson for you (and anyone else who freely has sex) and one might want to consider the consequences before engaging in such activity. There is no absolute and perfect birth control except for medical preventativeness. .. and even that is sometimes not fail-proof>>: I have always known that. But I played the odds. Apparently, I lost. <<Are a few moments of intense pleasure really worth a lifetime of commitment?>>: Its easy to say that, but the fact is that I don't regret what I did. I took every precaution I reasonably could take and gambled. I wasn't any only slightly more intelligent than the average high schooler who forgets a condom at all. <<drugs are our friends>>: This from the girl who works at the sherrif's office! <<no, not a cavity search � I do NOT do those>>: Do you have to be licensed or something? <>: You want to send him back to Afghanistan? ;-) <<that guy (can�t remember his name) looked ridiculous with his arguments against religion and a bit panicked over the fact that students were talking about God>>: The reasons that his argument sucked is that he was panicking about it. He admitted as much later in the show. Sound arguments aren't hard to make either way, sadly. <>: Oh sure, no points for me for pushing you to do it! ;-)

Todd: <<if the public likes it, it can't be all that good>>: Usually correct.

Mooncat: I haven't always agreed with you, but thanks for the words. <<this girl may have been exaggerating the situation to win your friend's sympathy.>>: She did try to sleep with him after I dumped her... <<unless this girl has severe mental problems, very unlikely>>: Well, she obviously has severe mental problems. Whether this story is true or not: either one suggests serious problems. But aside from that: she dated me! That's gotta say something bad. <<If you want to get a vasectomy, remember to make a sperm donation and have some of it saved for future use in case you want kids later in life. For safety factor, make multiple donations to multiple firms so in case of accident you will have a back up. Then have the vasectomy>>: Yeah, I probably would. <<Or just don't have sex, or only oral sex, etc, until you are ready to have children.>>: I've considered that. I've also wondered if I'd get bored. Then there's also the fact that for me, oral sex requires a much higher level of desire/trust than intercourse. Any two idiots can have sex (and many do, including yours truly, apparently). But that's something that requires skill, finesse, and effort...not to mention an intense desire to please the person you're with. <<You could still knock someone up six months after being snipped>>: This is true. I did know that. But they also make it clear that you should keep using protection for up to a year after the operation, etc. The point is that at some point, it would NOT be an issue. <<No birth control is ever %100 percent except simply not having sex>>: Yeah, I know. <<If it's really true, then it's a really crappy thing to have happen to anyone>>: If its not true, its still really crappy ;-) <<Go have some hot cocoa (or comfort drink of choice) and then go do something soothing>>: HOMEWORK!

Skippy: <<after his prison term is up he ought to be deported back to Afganistan and be forced to live in the hell hole that his ideology and his beliefs helped create>>: An excellent idea.

Sarge: <>: Are those related thoughts? <<they didn't have an ibook on display because we are such a small city in a small state. . . . they had an imac, but no i book>>: Was it a new iMac? Those are sweet. In any case, check out like a compUSA or something. Or there's an Apple store in NH... <<I'm guessing that it must be ten times worse than anything I can think of>>: It feels pretty rotten, but without knowing what you can imagine, I can't confirm or deny that. <>: Thanks. I've already taken several people up on the the offer. <>: I wouldn't do that with your iBook if I were you. <>: At least you were nice enough to admit it an apologize, unlike some people...

Sevarius Jr: <<when I officially implement my plan for world domination (which may be in conjunction with Wilek, should I convince him to form an unholy alliance), I want Mike Tyson to be my official Dog of War>>: If you dominate the world, do you really need a dog of war? Or any war, for that matter? <<Why don�t we have more of this in professional sports?>>: Because its only entertaining when its overbearing stupid people that have been hit in the head too many times. <<how he wanted to eat their @$$holes alive>>: I didn't know @$$holes were alive. <<to suddenly wanting to buy this dumb PPV>>: It's yer money. <<while the awards really don�t matter at all, my opinions do>>: A good philosophy for someone who's gonna rule the planet. <<let�s be realistic � when has a sci-fi / fantasy film EVER taken top honors?>>: Uh...no. <>: But would you rather hump splintered balsa wood? <<he�s already banged half of Hollywood. I guess he�ll be through the other half shortly>>: I am so jealous. And so are you. <<hey, I�d bang her anyway>>: She's hot with the makeup off, too. <<she�s kind of cute, in a I-only-have-a-career-through-the-magic-of-nepotism sort of way>>: Does it matter HOW she's cute? <<If Bush gets elected, I�ll leave the country.� Well, you�re still here, stupid>>: LOL someone oughta point that out to him. <>: Alas, the orcs are on vacation. <<becomes engaged to � hot little Joker Smile herself, Denise Richards. You will RUIN her, Charlie. God only knows what filthy diseases you�ve already infected her with>>: ACK! We'd better have her tested before I add her to my harem. <<Wait till the Oscars come up, I will have lots more inner rage to spew forth>>: When is that? <<Those kind are hard to find. No bags, and she�s into the act itself>>: There are plenty of girls who are interested in having sex, but they're smart enough to not want to reproduce. I've managed to find a few of them in my day. <<As am I...As am I!>>: So I can stop you if I just watch Angel and spend my energy thinking of ways to thwart THOSE bad guys? <>: This fred chick must be pretty hot. I should watch this show. <<FINALLY>>: I was wondering what took them so long. <<No arcade is complete without Galaga. How about the Empire Strikes Back game from way back?>>: Fuck Galaga. Give me top gun! <<all dentists are sadists who are sexually aroused by your pain>>: And then you pay them. I need that job. <<I�m just worried that you�re a �technical virgin�, as are so many of the middleschool girls today (you *don�t* want to know)>>: a) what the F8ck is a technical virgin an b) Spacebabie isn't in Middleschool. <<My opinion of you suddenly went up several more notches. As did my desire to see a picture of you>>: Bad logic dude. There are plenty of ugly people that have been much farther than that, and you don't want to see THEIR pictures. If I were you, I'd be interested in seeing her picture just because she mentioned eyeing all the single guys hungrily. <<On PPV! Hell, just stick him in a cage with Tyson, it�d be over quick enough>>: Do THAT on PPV! I'll pay $20 to see that fight. <>: F*ck the queen's english. They should speak American. <<I�m right *here*>>: thanks, I missed you. <<Ready bombshell in 5..4..3..2..1..>>: Did you know that was coming? Cuz I sure as hell didn't! <<No offense, but BIG SURPRISE. You wouldn�t be the first man that�s happened to>>: No, but I am the first man I KNOW that its happened to. Despite my vast experiences of being sheltered in what you seem to think is Xanatos' summer home, all the screwed up people I know this has never happened to any of them. <<just about the risk of pregnancy. You don�t even want to know the facts about venereal diseases>>: Well that I wasn't concerned about at all. Both of us had been tested. <<if I got the Hivvie even using a bag, I�d be PISSED>>: Me too. <<Well that was stupid, not to mention extremely unhealthy. Why not just wear a sign saying, �Kick me in my uterus.�>>: What do you want from her, she's a theater major? <<At least you�re honest. AND not a hypocrite>>: Well, I usually am a hypocrite, just this time I'm not being. And btw, it is possible to be pro choice and not want an abortion, or try to convince your friend not to have one. Its when you say your pro choice and blow something up, or say you're pro-life and get an abortion when you get pregnant that you're a hypocrite. <<Which is the least a guy can do, seeing as he�s the one who put it there in the first place>>: I don't know what more I could have done, but I'm not gonna speculate. <<the only time that I would find a child of my own even remotely interesting is when they were in their teenage years, and thus could conduct an intelligent conversation with me, but by that point, they�d hate me already. So why bother?>>: I think EXACTLY the same way. <<I�d probably screw up any kid I had>>: Most of my friends have decided that my spawn would be the anti-christ. Literally. <<The pisser? Even vasectomies aren�t 100% effective>>: Not right away, no. But in time, I would NOT have to worry about it. <<Because that is our power as men>>: And here I thought it was the ability to change a lightbulb. And pee standing up. At the same time. <<Because we know you, we like you, and we can listen to your problems without judging you>>: The first is true, but the last two depend on the individual person. <<we got furries here, and a dozen other serious sexual deviances that make your little escapades seem like nothing>>: And here I thought my purity test score was low. I suppose you're correct. Though I think we have more asexuals and dirty jokes than actual depraved fetishes. <<if they do laugh, I shall kick them in their uterus>>: This I would pay to see. <<You�re one of the most stable people in here>>: That's f*cking bullshit. I've been through more mood swings in here than Aingeal. <<with what seems to be a caring family>>: A debate best left for outside the CR. <<you�re an all around well-adjusted (if eternally smartass) young man>>: That one may be true. <<What�s this about irresponsibility? You didn�t know about the pregnancy. You were lied to. You didn�t cause the miscarriage. You were going to pay for an abortion, if it came to that. I don�t see where you get irresponsibility>>: I'm concerned about the girl I was with more recently, who is late... I don't think I was irresponsible with my ex. <<you�ll come out of this. Probably as a wiser person>>: Well that much is probably true. <>: LOL! <<If I can show that kind of strength, you should have no problem facing your problems>>: Somehow, I don't think its the same. <<But let me get the lotion and the towel first>>: Must you in public!? <<When I am King (the EMPEROR of KINGS!), I will mandate that on Sundays, all hot women must dress like schoolgirls. Because if I�m the supreme dictator, why not mold the world to fit my own personal fetishes?>>: Mmmm...Jamie Pressly in a schoolgirl outfit... <<As for gayest South Park episode, my vote goes to the episode about Butters. �The White Swallow�. I had no idea cartoons could be so mind-numbingly disturbing.>>: Did you see the one where Cartman killed that kids parents and fed them to him? <<Having sex with Aaron in the shower? Gee, I don�t know�..maybe if he wears the Fox wig>>: LOL! << Do you think that Maynard writes songs about breakups? Well�.yes, he kind of does>>: everyone does. <<and they can never totally unite together>>: Nor would they want to. <<conjugating verbs is a super pain in the ass>>: Maybe you should massage it for her. <<Careful! Only I get to hit on Spacebabie�.with the exception of Josh, since we�re sort of the same person. I mean, next you�ll be flirting with SOROW too>>: I may lay off the blatant offers of sex for a while until my neuroses have calmed down. <<I�ll f!ck you till you love me, faggot!>>: Prison? No, Mike Tyson. Perfect.

Sorow: <>: Sorry. I know this CR is one of the greatest joys in my day. Wouldn't miss it for...most things. <<My classes are hell and I'm not sleeping so well>>: I recommend NyQuil. <<send some love my way if you have a sec>>: Better not.

Ranz: <<somehow, in the end good will always prevail>>: despite the fact that it doesn't.

Alright folks, gotta be up early. Nite.

And now, another quote about sex...

To deny our impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human.
-Mouse, "The Matrix"

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, January 24, 2002 02:48:21 AM
IP: 64.170.152.42

i watched lord of the rings and it's a wonderful movie
it's something you could watch when you feel like the world is just too cruel! it makes you believe that somehow, in the end good will always prevail..
great movie. very inspiring
ranz - [graffitiprints01@yahoo.com]
Thursday, January 24, 2002 02:15:57 AM
IP: 210.14.28.37

Yep -- Lord of the Rings should have won -- I mean it didnt get ONE globe... What were they thinking?

It was one of those -- We think you should have watched this film and we do not appreciate the type of films the general populous likes -- snob things.
silvadel
Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:43:05 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Hey all. Things have been so crazy up here in Austin that I can't even keep up with you guys. My classes are hell and I'm not sleeping so well. I hope you all are doing alright, send some love my way if you have a sec. :)
SOROW
Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:17:33 AM
IP: 129.116.38.151

Well, I know one thing for sure � when I officially implement my plan for world domination (which may be in conjunction with Wilek, should I convince him to form an unholy alliance), I want Mike Tyson to be my official Dog of War.

If you saw the press conference on the news (and they�ve shown it ad nauseum), than you know that THAT is EXACTLY what we want from our pro boxers. Sheer, unadulterated, insanity. I don�t want a Mike Tyson on Zoloft. I DO want a Mike Tyson, frothing at the mouth, screaming about how he wants to eat Lennox Lewis� children. Why don�t we have more of this in professional sports? I could give a rat�s ass about Major League baseball, but if Mike Piazza started throwing bats around at player�s heads, I�d be interested. If Derek Jeter started talking to his opponents about how he wanted to eat their @$$holes alive (and he maybe has, I�ve heard the rumors), why, that may even be enough to make me watch a Yankees game. In short, NEVER underestimate the value of the psycho factor. I�ve gone from not giving a damn about Tyson / Lewis, to suddenly wanting to buy this dumb PPV just to see if Mike Tyson pulls a Hannibal and tries to gnaw Lennox�s face off.

SJ�s Golden Globes wrap-up: All of my opinions on the 2nd biggest awards show of the year for the Hollywood elite. And while the awards really don�t matter at all, my opinions do!

Best Drama � A Beautiful Mind. You can tell it�s a weak year for dramas when this thing wins the award. Oh well, every year around this time there�s a movie that the critics / press give the rub to going into the Oscar hunt, and this time it�s ABM. I�m pissed that LOTR didn�t win, since it WAS the better movie, but let�s be realistic � when has a sci-fi / fantasy film EVER taken top honors?

Best Comedy / Musical � Moulin Rouge. I would rather swallow pure hot monkey piss than watch this film. Not only do I HATE musicals, I sure as hell don�t want to watch one that has Ewan MacGregor singing.

Best Actor � Drama � Russell Crowe. God, as if we need to further fuel this guy�s ego. As it is, he�s already banged half of Hollywood. I guess he�ll be through the other half shortly. And it looks as if they�ll be handing him another Oscar this year, but you know what? It ain�t Tom Hanks getting the award, so I�m a happy camper.

Best Actor � Musical / Comedy � Gene Hackman. Didn�t know he was still alive.

Best Actress � Musical / Comedy � Nicole Kidman. She�s kind of asexual, isn�t she? I mean, she�s not bad-looking, she just has no sex appeal at all. But hey, I�d bang her anyway.

Best Actress � Drama � Sissy Spacek. Carrie, yer dirthy pillows are showing! I wish that when she got up there to accept her award, they had dropped pig�s blood on her, and Nicole Kidman and the other actresses in the audience had called her �pig� while throwing sanitary napkins at her gore-drenched form. That would have officially made it the best awards show EVER. Anyway, go see Orange County. It�s got Sissy Spacek�s daughter in it, and she�s kind of cute, in a I-only-have-a-career-through-the-magic-of-nepotism sort of way.

Best Supporting Actress � Drama � Jennifer Connelly. She�s my early pick to win the Oscar. And she�s hot. Let�s not gloss over that � she�s HOT. Damn hot. H-O-T. Mucha caliente. Do not fret, Anna, I will give you some more pretty things soon.
�I�m not Anna.�
You will be soon, yes.

Best Director � Richard Altman. This was one of the dumb bastards who snorted and huffed and puffed and said, �If Bush gets elected, I�ll leave the country.� Well, you�re still here, stupid. Now shut up and accept your award. Pete Jackson deserved this, all bias aside. If I were him, I would have had a few orcs beat the sh!t out of Rich and jacked the Globe from his bloody liver-spotted hands.

Best Actress � Drama � Jennifer Gardner. From the TV show �Alias�, which I occasionally watch. It�s pretty good. She�s attractive, and what I love best about the show � they dress her up in lots of hot and / or slutty costumes each week. Did she deserve this award? Doubtful, but she�s cute, so what do I care?

Best Actor � Drama � Kiefer Sutherland. What does it take to reinvigorate a career? A kick-ass TV show on Fox. If you don�t watch �24� on Tuesday nights, you�re a fool. Worse, you�re probably watching �Smallville�. And I can�t bring myself to do that (anymore), no matter how hot I find Kristin Kreuk. Did Keifer deserve this award? Oh hell no. But his show rules, so I forgive.

Best Actor � Comedy � Charlie Sheen. This is INSANE. I hate Charlie. Why? Because he does every drug imaginable, he screws whores like his dick is about to fall off any minute and he has to make every erection count, and yet one morning he decides to say he�s found Jesus, and not only do we all forgive him of his past transgressions, but we stand by in horror as he dates � and becomes engaged to � hot little Joker Smile herself, Denise Richards. You will RUIN her, Charlie. God only knows what filthy diseases you�ve already infected her with.

And that�s my take on the movie biz. Wait till the Oscars come up, I will have lots more inner rage to spew forth.

Fire Storm: <> Good girl. Those kind are hard to find. No bags, and she�s into the act itself. <<Holtx is trying to get an army>> As am I. <<Angel tried to make money>> As am I! <<Necrophelia abounded>> Sounds like a party at my house. <<Wes and Gunn both REALLY want Fred>> And I am firmly in that camp myself. <<Fred almost lost her head (which would have made her dead)>> Maybe, but then the necrophilia comes into play again�<<And the episode ended with Angel and Cordy in bed together.>> FINALLY. <<Sexual Assimilation Tentacles. And they get larger when inside of you.>> Somewhere, Wilek is sharpening an axe, and has a crazy glint in his eyes.

Allaine: <<There�s this arcade on the college campus where I take my bar review classes, and they have this one machine called Ultracade which has about fifty classic games on it (Zoo Keeper, Joust, Black Tiger, Bubble Bobble, etc.), and the one game it doesn�t have that I wanted the most is Tron (well, that and Moon Patrol).>> Did they have Galaga? No arcade is complete without Galaga. How about the Empire Strikes Back game from way back?

Spacebabie: <> It�s a proven fact that all dentists are taught by CIA specialists on the fine art of torture. Furthermore, all dentists are sadists who are sexually aroused by your pain. Remember that the next time those bastards come at your teeth with those sharp little tools of theirs! <<But I received a prescription for Percadan.>> NICE. Polish them off with some Grey Goose, and you�ll be meeting God. Literally! <<And where the F*CK is Sevarius Jr? And Jan?>>>That�s what I�ve been saying>> I�m right here! And glad you care. <<In fact I�ll confess something to you. I�m still a virgin.>> Hey, you�re a nice girl. From a nice family. I�m just worried that you�re a �technical virgin�, as are so many of the middleschool girls today (you *don�t* want to know). <> My opinion of you suddenly went up several more notches. As did my desire to see a picture of you� ;) <<Should Johnny Walker be executed yes or no.>> Yes. On PPV! Hell, just stick him in a cage with Tyson, it�d be over quick enough.

Warpmind: <<Y'know, I just realized what I've observed over the past week... there has been a DISTURBING increase of hobby-satanists in Bergen lately.>> It�s cool to worship the Elder Gods these days.

Josh: <<Yes, I am obsessed/concerned with my teachers ability to speak english.>> God, is that a pet peeve of mine. I had a teacher for one of my computer science labs�.Jesus Christ, this guy could not speak English. He was from Vietnam (I think), and I practically had to use clicks and grunts to get him to understand me. Why can�t they all speak the Queen�s English? <<And where the F*CK is Sevarius Jr?>> I�m right *here*. <<About a year ago, 2 months after my last girlfriend and I broke up, my girlfriend had a pregnancy "scare". She never told me, until maybe last spring. I was annoyed, but relieved that it had been only a scare, and that she was only late.>> Ready bombshell in 5..4..3..2..1.. <<Last night I get this bombshell dropped on me: she lied to me. >> No offense, but BIG SURPRISE. You wouldn�t be the first man that�s happened to. <<We'd never had unprotected sex, so I foolishly assumed that it she didn't get pregnant (condoms are reportedly pretty damn effective).>> Alas, they are not. For all the talk of safe sex�.condoms are really just like playing roulette. You never know. They could have a hole in them, they could burst, there could be seepage, they could be old, etc. And that�s just about the risk of pregnancy. You don�t even want to know the facts about venereal diseases. Forgive my not-so-technical jargon, but since condoms are made of rubber, they have holes in them (naturally occurring). These holes are usually of a certain size�.let�s say X microns, to use a fake measurement. Certain diseases, such as�oh, HIV�.well, they can be as small as x microns�.basically, they can be small enough to pass through the pores in the condom. It�s scary, but logical, if you think about it. If your sperm can pass through the condom, so can a disease. And if I got the Hivvie even using a bag, I�d be PISSED. <<She was in fact, pregnant, and the psychopath starved herself until she miscarried.>> Well that was stupid, not to mention extremely unhealthy. Why not just wear a sign saying, �Kick me in my uterus.� <> At least you�re honest. AND not a hypocrite. <<All she had to do was ask, and I would have paid for it.>> Which is the least a guy can do, seeing as he�s the one who put it there in the first place. <<I feel like I can't trust myself around women, like I should just lock myself in my living space for the rest of my life so as to reduce the risk of spreading my genetic material and the risk of inflicting a child on anyone.>> That�s no solution, although I can understand your reaction. I have very little desire to procreate at all. Occasionally, I may think to myself, �Gee, wonder what it�d be like to have kids.� Then I remember, I really don�t like being around kids (although the irony is, I�m pretty good with them), and the only time that I would find a child of my own even remotely interesting is when they were in their teenage years, and thus could conduct an intelligent conversation with me, but by that point, they�d hate me already. So why bother? Plus I�d probably screw up any kid I had. Not as badly as *I* was screwed up, but that�s another story. <<Like I should run out tomorrow and get a vasectomy at the ripe old age of 20, just to be sure that I can never go back.>> The pisser? Even vasectomies aren�t 100% effective. But trust me, you don�t want to do that. I�m of the mindset that, even if you don�t want to have kids, EVER, it�s better to at least be able to do so. Because that is our power as men. <> Yes, you do. Because we know you, we like you, and we can listen to your problems without judging you. Plus, we got furries here, and a dozen other serious sexual deviances that make your little escapades seem like nothing. ;) <<Of course the 2 people that hate me (or whatever steadily increasing number it is) will just laugh, and that's fine too.>> And if they do laugh, I shall kick them in their uterus. <> That�s crap. You�re one of the most stable people in here, with what seems to be a caring family, and you�re an all around well-adjusted (if eternally smartass) young man. You can handle this. You�re going to feel scared, and disgusted, and sick for a while, but you will recover, cause you�re a strong person. What�s this about irresponsibility? You didn�t know about the pregnancy. You were lied to. You didn�t cause the miscarriage. You were going to pay for an abortion, if it came to that. I don�t see where you get irresponsibility, seeing as a) you practiced safe sex, meaning the pregnancy was accidental), b) you didn�t know of the pregnancy or it�s termination, and c) if you had known, you would have taken responsibility for it (it may have been in the form of an abortion). You�re gonna feel like shit about this, possibly for some time to come, but you�ll come out of this. Probably as a wiser person. So, to paraphrase something Jimmy Stewart might have said, �Keep your chin up, we�re gonna turn this thing around.�
Whew. I made it through all of that without making ONE single coat-hanger joke. See? If I can show that kind of strength, you should have no problem facing your problems.

Shinigami: <<So let me tell you all the tale of my vacation of Sin and Decadence >> Okay. But let me get the lotion and the towel first. <> When I am King (the EMPEROR of KINGS!), I will mandate that on Sundays, all hot women must dress like schoolgirls. Because if I�m the supreme dictator, why not mold the world to fit my own personal fetishes? <<We went to see the Rocky Horror Picture Show, where I lost my movie virginity by faking orgasm (for the first time I might add)>> Why don�t I believe you? (the first time, that is) <<Wendy spanked Robin, and a drunken good time was had by all (on Hard Lemonade if you can believe it).>> Spanking is always more gooder, and are you referring to Mike�s Hard Lemonade? <<We bought implements of destruction, a beautiful cobra-head sword cane, Shin-ni and Bo-ken in Chinatown.>> There can be only one. <<Tuesday- didn't go out, We slept and watched the Whose Line Is It? marathon and Pecker and the gayest South Park episode ever. "Hey Big Gay Al, get off your big gay ass and come be our scoutmaster again.">> Who�s Line Is It Anyway???? Jesus, you must have been desperate for something to watch. There�s only one thing on earth that I would not watch before WLIIA, and that�s gay porn (or Queer as Folk, it�s cable equivalent). As for gayest South Park episode, my vote goes to the episode about Butters. �The White Swallow�. I had no idea cartoons could be so mind-numbingly disturbing. <> I do have my own personal army of photographers, you know. You�d be surprised what kind of damning photographic evidence I possess. <<we sleazed it up with Wendy, Jess and Robin IN A SLEAZY MOTEL.>> Did I ever tell you people about the time I went on my senior trip in high school? We hit this sleazy hotel in Florida, and I was with a group of me best droogs, and not 2 minutes after we checked in, we got propositioned by a few lucky ladies to join them for a private party in their room later that evening. It never quite happened. This is why I have a complete and utter loathing for chaperones. The nazi bastards literally patrolled the outside of our rooms like they were part of the goddamn SS death squad, and were were hanging out in Auschwitz. <<It was rainy and the fun thing was, Wendy and Robin went to get the room and were told immediately what the porn channel was�did commentary on really low grade porn and then watched Contact, the porn was better.>> You never get good porn there. You won�t find anything like Vivid Video�.maybe you�ll find a Max Hardcore, but Jesus, who wants THAT? <<It's Aaron's 22nd Birthday. We had sex in the shower. I highly recommend it.>> Having sex with Aaron in the shower? Gee, I don�t know�..maybe if he wears the Fox wig�..<<We went to the comic book store near 42nd street where we bought porn. Then after a quick meal at McDonalds we went home to watch, RAW together, and got it onnnn�.>> WOW. Porn from the comic book store, McD�s, WWF Monday Night RAW, and sex? That�s a good day. BTW, I�d just like to take this opportunity to say WHOOO!!!! Mr. Perfect�s BACK!!! <<After he disappeared into the terminal a really sappy love song came on the radio>> This is why I listen to groups like TooL. Do you think that Maynard writes songs about breakups? Well�.yes, he kind of does�.but the music is so goddamn bizarre that he has time to write entire songs about ancient Greek tragedies. You won�t be crying over that!
Anyway, glad you had a good time.

Wilek: <<I mean, the school system is a toilet. The best and brightest suffer for it while five dozen jocks who share a single brain cell are lionized for their skill at throwing around a leather balloon (whose shape does not matter, for all are the same and all are as dull as dirt). Frell the lot of them inside out and back the other way. If every tortured nerd and geek hunted down and killed every popular jock and cheerleader, I think many of the world's problems would be solved in the following generation.>> And with that paragraph, you�ve summed up the last few decades of the (public) school system. I watched a show on MTV last night, called �Flipped�. They took a typical dumb jock, and the hot little high school princess, and made them nerds. Then they stuck them in a school setting (a real school), where they had to spend the day in classes, etc., just like any other day, but everyone there at the school was instructed to give them a hard time. Basically, it was done to recreate the kind of torment that normal geeks / nerds go through every day. At the end, both of the teens say that they�ve learned a lot, learned how the other side lives, and they go to a vigil for victims of teen violence (the Columbine and Santana schools primarily). And they�re both like, �Wow, I know what those kids feel like now when they�re picked on. It really makes you think.� And I just sat there, and the cynic in me leaped up, and said�.you know what? You learned NOTHING. You�ll feel bad for a day or two, then you�ll be right back to giving people a hard time. But I almost don�t blame them for it. Because that, my friend, is the nature of the beast. The haves and the have nots, they live in different worlds, and they can never totally unite together. <<Why does this sentence frighten me so? Every time I see it, I envision it scrawled in blood next to a terrifying glyph on the filthy wall of a pitch black room...there was a hole here but now it's gone...>> Iris is the heart and soul of Bayridge, Brooklyn. Trust me, it�s more humorous than it is frightening. Perhaps I�ll explain it to you sometime. ;) But Iris does LOVE you. <<A few months ago at Babbages', they had this box of like half a dozen figures of The Rock that they were just giving free to whoever enquired.>> I may make a wrestling fan of you yet. Be VERY afraid.

SOROW: <<Spanish hates me and I hate it! I wish it would die!>> Don�t feel too bad. I took five whole years of Spanish in high school, and today I can�t even order an enchilada at Taco Bell. You HAVE to be better at the language than I am, by default. ;)
Are you taking basic, intro-Spanish? That�s not too bad, although conjugating verbs is a super pain in the ass. Cheer up, though, I�m sure you�ll do fine. By the time I was finished with the subject, I was reading Miguel Cervantes� �Don Quixote�, in the original Spanish. And I�m an idiot with languages! If I can pull that miracle off, you can pass this course with flying colors. ;)

Attila: <<Good, I need some kitty loving after I'm through with Daphne and Mooncat :)>> Careful! Only I get to hit on Spacebabie�.with the exception of Josh, since we�re sort of the same person. I mean, next you�ll be flirting with SOROW too�;)

Speaking of love, I�ll leave with this.

�I�ll f!ck you till you love me, faggot!�
-- Mike Tyson, on romance

Sevarius "Emperor of Kings" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:00:57 AM
IP: 207.172.11.148

Not much to say today. My uncle is coming tommorow. That will be fun. I like my uncle. I get my wit from him and he makes me laugh. He always wants to strangle me. . . .

IMZADI>>> I went to Ormsby's . . . It's off to the side of main street next to a pub. If anyone goes to Barre, Vermont and complain about there not being enough bars or pubs to hang out in, go search the back alleys. . . we're full of 'em. Anyway, back on topic. . . . my guess is they didn't have an ibook on display because we are such a small city in a small state. . . . they had an imac, but no i book. Oh well. I guess I have to wait until sturday when my dad gets back from San Fran to go shopping up in Burlington.

<<>> I can't really imagine what the feeling must be like. I'm guessing that it must be ten times worse than anything I can think of. You have my greatest sympathies and hopes that things will work out no matter what happens. I'm always there to talk if you need it and I am sure everyone else on this board is too.

NIAMHGOLD>>><<>> You're excited about this? Actually that DOES sound like fun. Boy I can't WAIT for college and learn a lot more about art than I do now.

TERRY>>>I know that silent feeling your school is going through. My school had to go through it 4 to 5 times in the last four years. And I know how it hurts inside. It's a terrible feeling.

LAIN>>> Is your computer getting bigger, or are you getting smaller? Heh heh. . . . . . . . seriously though do what everyone else has suggested so far then take the computer to maintenace. That's my advice . . . . it may seem like an "everyone-knows-this" advice. . . . but I say it because personally i would get screwdrivers out and other tools and monkey with it myself. Which I have done. . . . . .

so my advice is NOT to do what I do . . . because elsewise your computer will all be written in wingdings and you can't understand it and you have to delete all your files . . . . . . **twitches** <<>> Awwww not ALL cats are bad! I have a cat that is adorable . . . . . and I also have a cat that is a helion.

JOHN WALKER>>> I still want to hear him speak when he is healthy. All I've seen is him weak and woozy while he is talking. I would like to see how serious his face expressions are when he speaks at full strength. I want to see how corrupted he is or how lost he is. The guy went down the WRONG direction in life.

I didn't use spell check. . . so sorry everyone

Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Barre (TWO SYLLABLES NOT ONE!)), Vermont pronouced VERE MON . . . its french =), Some country. . . . canada I think
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:21:41 PM
IP: 205.188.195.24

First period tomorrow. Why does Sanuti hate me?

Warpmind> <<One B-52, and my dreams become erratic>>: You mean 1 oz. Grand Marnier, 3/4 oz. Kahlua, 1/2 oz. Bailey's Irish Cream, Ice: Mix ingredients with ice in a blender or shaker and strain into a chilled cocktail glass. And not the bomber, right? Ooh, there's a drink called an Alien Secretion.
<<that dashing black-and-purple combo that villains look so good in>>: I thought it was purple and green.
<<he's more into straight beat'em-ups>>: Every genre has its place. Even porn mahjong.
<<As for the Musk... Doesn't ring a bell. I may not have gotten to that episode yet>>: Not an episode. Check out Ranmascan. Mint and Lime were raised away from females, so they are inordinately curious about breasts in particular.
<<science is a wonderful thing, my friend>>: I know that, I just can't see a porn studio getting good enough science for convincing tentacles.

Niahmgold> <<except for the whole "going-to-nod-off-it's-so-long" part>>: That happens in Connecticut for Jersey to NH trips.
<<Ooh, I'll volunteer>>: Actually, it looks like it's mostly Canadian Schizos in the data. Lain?
<<Much better :) You'll be my resume editor>>: You want to fill openings? Oh well.

Lain> <<verything is REALLY BIG on it. all the icons are inexplicably huge, as is this comment room.. and the graphics on my wallpaper are screwy>>: Probably a bad crash made it forget your graphics settings (resolution and bits per color). Maybe it even forced it into safe mode.
<<now its buzzing really loudly at me, too>>: That sounds like the power supply is going. Or at least one of the fans. Those shouldn't be too expensive.

Mecord> <<go to your settings, control panel, and display on your computer>>: It's faster to right click the desktop and go to properties. If you're using a rightie.

Spacebabie> <<Well I would hate to have a professor speak French when its not a French class>>: You don't understand. Most of our professors speak Chingrish or the eastern European equivalent.
<>: You couldn't get special permission numbers?

Lain> <<the speakers have stopped buzzing>>: That's something else entirely. Intereference, bad connection, or bad sound card sounds like the most likely suspect.

Fire Storm> <<And I will probably take the class AFTER I have the book>>: Then look up the course at the college you're likely to go to.
<<Yeah... he keeps hitting on me!>>: Never invited him back to your place for a three way?
<<they seemed to like Goliath>>: Shame.
<<We need biological diodes>>: Maybe something like reverse shark teeth?
<<Your standard account is my home page in IE>>: I feel honored. And I feel like you need professional help.
<<You animal>>: Yes, I know.

Mecord> <<Most dwarves I know append most of the time underground, I don?t think the dark complexion is a tan>>: Yeah, but they spend a lot of time by the forges.

And this may not be appropriate, but the new mp3 is Sexual Healing by Marvin Gaye.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:18:48 PM
IP: 198.151.130.133

John Walker>> Wether he meets the legal criteria or not, he is a traitor to this nation. I don't think he needs to be executed, but he does not deserve to be in this country. I say that as part of his punishment is to be stripped of his American citizenship and after his prison term is up he ought to be deported back to Afganistan and be forced to live in the hell hole that his ideology and his beliefs helped create.
Skippy The Klingon
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 09:25:42 PM
IP: 209.245.243.60

Josh -- re your personal bit. Before going into shock, keep in mind this girl may have been exaggerating the situation to win your friend's sympathy. If she lied to you about being not pregnant, maybe she lied to him about *being* pregnant and starving herself to miscarry. Like someone else on the list mentioned, that sounds awful fishy.

Not that it couldn't happen, but unless this girl has severe mental problems, very unlikely. For all you know she may have severe eating disorders, and being pregnant or not being pregnant might not have even occurred to her. She might have been pregnant and lost a baby from malnutrition, but because she's starving herself for reasons other than pregnancy. It's just that if you want to miscarry/abort, there are so many other safer and less odd ways of doing it than by starvation.

If you want to get a vasectomy, remember to make a sperm donation and have some of it saved for future use in case you want kids later in life. For safety factor, make multiple donations to multiple firms so in case of accident you will have a back up. Then have the vasectomy.

Or just don't have sex, or only oral sex, etc, until you are ready to have children.

Even even a vasectomy isn't fool proof. You could still knock someone up six months after being snipped.

Birth control pill can be rendered useless by other medications or some medical conditions, condoms can have flaws or be breached when in contact with certain chemicals (why you don't use pertroleum jelly as a lubricant) etc. No birth control is ever %100 percent except simply not having sex.

My sympathy for your situation. If it's really true, then it's a really crappy thing to have happen to anyone. Go have some hot cocoa (or comfort drink of choice) and then go do something soothing.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 07:03:28 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

I've read that the reason why LOTR lost to "A Beautiful Mind" in the Golden Globe Awards was that the awarders considered LOTR too popular for them to give an award to (presumably on the basis of "if the public likes it, it can't be all that good").

* ANGEL SPOILERS *

I quite liked this one. The zombie boyfriend was very funny; I certainly didn't expect that one to turn out the way that it did. I also enjoyed the other two plot-threads; Angel getting conned and Fred turning out to be too bright for her own good when it comes to puzzle-solving.

I'll agree that Angel did go overboard in the money-raking-in, but given that this is the first time that he's been a father, it does make sense.

On the more serious side, Holzt is out for more human recruits. I'm definitely looking forward to how that unfolds.

Fred quotes from Rudyard Kipling's "If" - very appropriately, too.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 06:55:22 PM
IP: 168.191.109.77

Spacebabie and Josh> *hugs* Thanks! Mucho appreciated =)

Josh> I dunno��. The situation with the former girlfriend sounds a bit fishy to me (her story) I realize it�s easy for us all to say to forget about it and move on � but for you that�s not an option right now. This has to got be playing some major mental and emotional games with you. *hugs* I have no doubt that all of this came as quite a shock to you. This experience could be a valuable lesson for you (and anyone else who freely has sex) and one might want to consider the consequences before engaging in such activity. There is no absolute and perfect birth control except for medical preventativeness. .. and even that is sometimes not fail-proof.
Are a few moments of intense pleasure really worth a lifetime of commitment? It could happen. As long as you are comfortable with handling whatever consequences might come about as a result � then have fun! ; )

Rayvn and FS> argh! *gentle hugs* I hope that your recovery is quick and without much pain. Remember, drugs are our friends ;)

Winterwolf> heh, there�s something about tagging your car in the new �home� town/state to make a person feel as if they really belong, huh? I, in some ways, was sad to take off my Texas tags but yet I felt like I was *home* once I put on the Missouri tags.

Anna is (impatiently) waiting for the birth of Zach. She may have developed some difficulty and we�ll be going for another ultrasound on Friday morning. She has not �grown� as much as she should for this past week and the doctor said it could either be lack of fluid or that she has just dropped so much and is ready to hatch any time now. If it�s lack of fluid, they will induce labor on Friday. So, I�ll be taking off work on Friday and going with her to the hospital for the test.

Work related: Had a visit from the FBI today. It appears that the scam with the car dealers that happened last month is a major scam ring thru out the USA. In the past year, Ford Motor Co. has paid out over $5.5 million dollars because of this scam ring. They�ve (in combination with the Ford Motor Investigative dept) have been trying to catch these guys but� WE caught them! Yippee for the Sheriff�s Dept here =) They are all singing praises about our sheriff and the detectives. : ) Too bad there was no reward. ; )
I was called in twice on Saturday. First time was in the afternoon to take pictures of a female assault victim. Her ex-boyfriend had beaten her up pretty bad. =\ Later I was called in at 2:30am for 2 meth users and one passing bad check warrant. The meth users were actually entertaining. Hehe The bad thing was that I had to do a strip search � no, not a cavity search � I do NOT do those! Thankyouverymuch. One of the gals tried to convince me that she was an informant for the task force and that she was just �playing the part�. She was tweaking all the time she was there and talking to me and when she stripped down, she had sores from her head to her toes (both typical symptoms of meth use). Ummmm yeah riiiight� she was *really* playing the part, all right. *snickers* I finally got home at around 4am.
The deputies brought in a guy they have been searching for since Feb. He is wanted for sodomy, rape, and assault. A real winner.

Naimgold> really sorry to hear about your dog =( It was devastating when I lost our oldest dog this summer. I still miss her.

Spacebabie> << Should Johnny Walker be executed yes or no.>> I don�t think that he warrants execution� unless he was in direct participation of the WTC attacks. I�m somewhat dismayed that he was brought back to the states to stand trial, though. The bleeding hearts are already complaining about the Taliban prisoners being mistreated *rolls eyes* I hate to think that Walker will receive a prison sentence but yet enjoy the amenities that are offered in prison. I want him to have the severest form of punishment and to live the rest of his sorry excuse for a life in total misery and deplorable conditions. I want him to beg for the death penalty because that would be a much kinder alternative to what he�d be serving in prison. But sadly, this will not happen.
Demona�s �time of the month�. Not to be rude or anything.. but who cares? *chuckles* I mean, I personally don�t want to know such things nor does it effect anything in the cartoon. For some reason though, I have found a lot of humor in your question. *L* goofy gal ;)
I noticed that the religion debate came up on Boston Public. I don�t know about you, but that guy (can�t remember his name) looked ridiculous with his arguments against religion and a bit panicked over the fact that students were talking about God. Crossing Jordan was weird! O.o I�m still not sure what to think!

Ok, gotta go� sorry for not having more responses.

I have finally gotten AIM to work� thanks to my son, Michael :)

AIM: scouterfox
Yahoo: mamafox65625
Jan
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 06:33:41 PM
IP: 12.110.236.149

**Winterwolf enters**

It took me longer than it should have but my car is now properly licensed and registered in Washington. Yay finally. In other news Dreamie has been spending almost all of her time on schoolwork. I try not to distract her too much but she needs occasional study breaks. Seriously she's really doing well this quarter and we're both very happy to be together.

In movie news we managed to catch LOTR this past weekend. We both thought it was good. Not much else o say except that it did feel like a looong movie too.

DPH> <BTW, could you harness the cold and keep temperatures in 40s and up in my neck of the woods?> Well since the way the cooling power works is that the heat energy is extracted making it colder I'd need to use an alternative method. The other way would be to get the heat to pump into the system from somewhere else. Such as, using a portal between Tropical Zone to balance with your Temperate Zone.

Josh> <<<Are you free Tuesday?>>: I have classes from 8 to 1230. Why?> D'oh! That was a Professional Reference. I guess now I can't say, "Somebody is coming. Somebody serious." <other news> O.o She has some serious issues. Don't be so hard on yourself. It's not like you can do much when you find out afterwards.

Shadowrider> <*beloved* Dynamics of Fluids> **Winterwolf freezes the fluids** There that should make things easier. ;)

Fire Storm> <<What no Warpmind Gamma Crush?> Na... too intellignet! I think that if you wrap Warpmind in furs and give him a war axe, he won't be thinking too much!> Well Warpmind seemed more interested in a blunt weapon so how about some war hammers or spiked flails (if you want a compromise).

Warpmind> <Warpmind Omega Strike> Can you drain the life out of people too? That would make up for sore shoulders.

Ravyn> <recovery> Dreamie and I both wish you a speedy recovery especially that "can't taste food for an hour rinse" you need for now. We'll keep you posted on the upcoming wisdom teeth removal for Dreamie. She has a few weeks before anything happens so it isn't being worried about yet.

Lain> You deserve much better. Don't let that roommate of yours treat you with anything but respect. **HUG**

Spacebabie> <Female Gargs> I'd say they wouldn't have monthly cycles like humans for two reasons. First they can only mate that way a few times in their lives (most females Demona nonwithstanding). Second they lay an egg and a larger portion of the development of a gargle newborn occurs in the egg.

Christine> Finished Archmage of the Universe. Loved it. PLUG - To everyone else you must read Christine's works! - END PLUG Looking forward to reading more of your work soon. ^_^

Terrky> My condlences.

Ack! I'm late. I have to hurry and pick up Dreamie. **waves**

Dreamie> I love you and I'm on my way. **kiss, nuzzle, snuggle**

**Winterwolf runs out**

Winterwolf
Seattle, WA
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 03:45:33 PM
IP: 172.180.83.128

Okay this computer is weird. That�s what I get for using the lab though. Sorry about the multiple posts. I wasn�t sure if I would be in the lab long enough to complete my post. It is kinda long and all. Not a whole lot is happening with me. I�ve been trying to convince my overzealous wife to drop a class BEFORE the stress kills her (if it does kill her she told me she may have to drop two or three classes). Anywho, I�m just trying to survive and write and occasionally I play a computer game just to kill a few innocent bystanders (to satiate my bloodlust and all that). So enough about me, on to the replies!

Terrky>> Ouch, sorry to hear about that kid. That just sucks.

Wilek>> <<The best and brightest suffer for it while five dozen jocks who share a single brain cell are lionized for their skill at throwing around a leather balloon>> amen to that. I�ll refrain from adding a three page rant about the school systems to my post now. Thanks for the welcome.

Josh>> <<We weren't suicidal and self-destructive until relatively recently>> depends on what you mean by self-destructive, As a species we always seem to be killing each other off.

Spacebaby>> << It was Swedish fish(A chewy candy) and Potatoe chips(Bistro gouyrmet Applewood BBQ and Cheddar.>> Ah, well, that�s not too bad then. I was worried it was rabid halibut or something. :) (small monte python reference there)

Green baron>> << When did you get married?>> last june, I�m sure Atilla (or his ghost rather) would remember hitting on her, she�s called Cat after all <<How many more wives do you plan to have :)>> As many as she�ll let me. ;)

Mooncat>> I enjoyed your response to Peter Wood�s email. :)

Kathy>> hmm, that post reminds me of something Gside mentioned last week. Something about avoiding the specifics� ;)

Gside>> << You can't expect dwarves to get away with a pansy elvish complexion, can you?>> Most dwarves I know append most of the time underground, I don�t think the dark complexion is a tan.

Taleweaver>> I don�t disagree with your statement about the story, But in thinking on a broader picture, I�d like to see a lot more development of Xanatos in future stories. For a while it almost seemed that character development took a step down to allow for plot.

Demona�s menstrual cycle>> Wouldn�t she have hit menopause by now?

Frell>> I'm glad I'm not the only one who uses that word on a regular basis.

Yeah I think that�s enough for now. I�ll see you all next week, if not sooner.

Later

Mecord
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 01:15:05 PM
IP: 129.123.1.63

Imzadi: <Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it>
Same could be said about credit and money.
<Does that mean you have to go back?>
Yep. It just isn't healing right.
<Not a good thing to hear>
Nope. I didn't think they started anything and I started to feel pretty weird.
<You can get in line...apparently I'm in demand>
Now that is a scary thought!

Would the chunky peanut butter have parts of the Klingon in it?

Agreed. BUT Kmart, if they can get past the next month or two, will probably find their stocks going back up to $7 in about a year, a 7 fold increase in my investment.
A risk, yes, but they will probably turn around.
<I'll never sleep again>
Women are evil, manipulative, unforgiving...
LM's right behind me, isn't she? ;)
You know some really f$c&ed up people, you know that?
I remember the first person I slept with... She wanted me to NOT use a condom because she liked the feeling better and she was using the rhythm method.
I did NOT believe her.
In any case... GET YOUR GIRLS ON THE PILL!

Gside: <There's always the chance a different college uses a different and cheaper book>
Yeah, but I want QUALITY! And I will probably take the class AFTER I have the book.
<Having some problems with the boss before?>
Yeah... he keeps hitting on me! ;)
<Anyone remember if they spent undue attention to Des?>
Hmm... I THINK they at least wrapped themselves around her neck... but they seemed to like Goliath.
<Because they only keep men near you in prison, and most people don't really like the idea of things going in our outs>
We need biological diodes.

Your standard account is my home page in IE. And your Eden account is on my bookmarks. It's just that if I want to look at anything at work, I have to memorize the url's of the sites I want to go to.
<Perhaps vanilla would have been more accurate>
Hmm... Na.

It is probably already out there somewhere.
<Of course not. He'll be with me. In the biblical sense>
You animal!

Warpmind: <Mostly, I needed it for whatever opposition I met>
Poodles, mimes, Jehovah's Witnesses...
<A challenge might have an interesting outcome there. How much of the sort have you written?>
Enough to know I REALLY suck at writing that and anything action based.

Niamhgold:<Ooh, luck on the wisdom tooth recovery! Just think...never again, never again, vile teeth!>
Spoke too soon!

Spacebabie: <Those Dern lot Boys got you again>
Yes, and now I have the article they are mentioned in too!
Soon, my site shall be complete and then I can TAKE OVER THE WORLD!
*Insert evil laughter here*

If you throw a cat out a car window, does it become kitty litter? -Edwin G.

Fire Storm
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 01:01:07 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

uh.. yeah that was me.. but you all knew that, right?
lain
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:58:35 PM
IP: 64.228.198.17

mecprd, david g>> yes, its a windows PC (oi josh, quit gloating..) and yeah, i thought that would be the simplest solution, too. i should have mentioned that id tried that already.. sorry. i know you can change the sizes of things with the control panel, and fonts, colours etc.. but it was on the setting id left it on the night before.
aaaand.. noone else uses my computer.. it is in my locked room by itself all day and when my friend was here last night, *I* used it, not him. the only thing i did that id never done before was play a dave matthews band cd (the actual cd from the store, not a copy or anything) and now my computer is wonky. everything seems to be working fine, internet, programs etc just really big. and i need to do a photoshop assignment today and.. my graphics are screwy...

AAK!

thanks for your help, though.

in other news, the speakers have stopped buzzing so.. thats always good :)

spacebabie>> <<What the frell is wrong with that
cat?>> i was about to say the same thing... the cat USED to be a cute, fluffy kitten.. and i used to think that one day i might want a cat.. but hes barely six months old, chews EVERYTHING (possibly cos he has nothing better to do, what with being locked in kathys room all day every day) but now? now hes a big fat orange ugly thing that i have urges to kick up the bum every time i see... and kathy runs around making cute baby talk "ooos my widdle kitty?????" ugh..
i should let the rat loose on him, hes declawed and wouldnt stand a chance against ishy..
i now officially dont like cats. RATS ALL THE WAY YEAAAAH!!!!!!!! *whoops*

*goes back to grumbling about computer display*
Anonymous
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:58:08 PM
IP: 64.228.198.17

Saw a funny car bumper yesterday
it had one of those Darwin fish being eaten by a Jesus Fish, except instead of Jesus it had tthe words Truth.

I don't know what I'm going to decorate my car when I get one. Won't be a beamer. I think my first car should be small and adorable, like a neon or a volkswagon. I'd get something LOTR for and for in the back a neon lit hand giving the bird that pops up when I push a button

oh well enough rambling

Allaine<<<There wasn't anything really important that happened on Angel, was there?>>> Nope nothing important.

Firestorme>>>Those Dern lot Boys got you again.

Skippy>>>So I guess it would be that time of the decade.

Christine<<<Belated sympathies to everyone who had their teeth yanked ... after seeing Tim through the same thing just a few weeks ago, I know how wretched you all must have been. Hope all's better soon.>>>I have had teeth yanked before. It was before I got braces in the middle of middle school and I have too much teeth for my little mouth to handle so the dentist yanked four(What he didn�t know was that most of them were premature teeth). I remember being numb from my chin to underneath my eyes, I could not talk and I had to drink through a straw. I�m expecting the same when I get my wisdoms yanked, but my dad says a Root canal is worse, and I believe him. That HURTS!!!!! But I received a prescription for Percadan.

Josh<<<The Prof seems nice enough, and best of all, he speaks English.>>>Well I would hate to have a professor speak French when its not a French class<<<There's some 2-D modelling involved, >>> Now that sounds like fun. Well anything that is like art is fun.<<<Then back home to actually SHOWER (yes, I did go to class without one>>>I would hate to be the student who had to sit next to you.<<<That will make me a happy panda.>>>So what are you now? An angry Koala or a sad Polar Bear?<<<And where the F*CK is Sevarius Jr? And Jan?>>>That�s what I�ve been saying<<<Rant>>>I�m glad you can feel to confide to us.That girl shouldn�t have lided to you, starved herself, and go behind your back. It�s not your fault and its not women in general, just those in your messed up neck of the state aka Berkley. In fact I�ll confess something to you. I�m still a virgin. I have been around the bases but I never slid home, so I�m not exactly pure or chaste.<<>> Yes you do. He�s a dumb ass. Plain and simple.<<<Here?! No! >>Yes, they come out once in a while and whine, then we shut them up.<<<Maybe start? >>>Hey the only thing I stick in my motuh and inhale is my astma puffer.<<<He's on SG-1 now anyway>>>I wonder if Patty and Selma watch that show.<<<Stop it, I'm trying to feel special.>>>Hate to burst your bubble but other students arragne their classes so they have three day weekends<<<Now, I have to kill you.>>>I�m only taking one class. I wanted three but the other two I need were filled.

Niahmgold<<<Bananas. Gotta run to class and a few other obligations.>>>I never knew anyone use that term before.

Lain<<<cat ate my discman headphones. id left them on the table, but the cat climbed up and ate them.>>> The cat ate your headphones? What the frell is wrong with that cat? Unless your earwax tastes like catnip, or you mean it chewed up the wires. Spooky used to do that.

"When your a kid and you want to go weeee, but you aint got drugs yet." The Albert Christmas Squirell
Spacebabie
Orlando, Florida
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:25:13 PM
IP: 67.25.50.77

Lain> I assume you use a Windows PC?

Click on the Start button. From there go to Settings. From Settings go to Control Panel.

When the Control Panel window opens, find the Display Icon, which should look like a computer monitor. There are several tabs you can click on to get different screens. One of them is "Settings." Click on Settings, and you should see several options. Desktop Area determines how big your display is. Font size determines how big the fonts appear.

It sounds to me like someone messed with your display settings, so changing those should solve your prolblem. I could be wrong, though. That's just the easiest thing to check.

I can't guess about the buzz without hearing it for myself. Things that usually buzz are a power supply that's about to go bad, fans with loose bearings, bad speakers, and cd-rom drives.

Someone who's better at hardware support will probably be along to give you more information. I'll see if I can get Azreal to pop in, but he works nights now, so don't count on it.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:23:35 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

sorry don't know what to do about the buzzing.
Mecord
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:23:32 PM
IP: 129.123.1.63

Lain>> go to your settings, control panel, and display on your computer. On the Display properties window click on the settings tab. On the bottom right there should be a screen area bar. move the little arrow bar around to change the size of your icons. Once you've moved it use apply to check it. Once you've got the right settings it may ask you to resart your computer. If not then it might be a good idea to restart anyway.
Mecord
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:22:05 PM
IP: 129.123.1.63

oooooooh good.. now its buzzing really loudly at me, too. this is good....

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!!!!!!!

WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON!!!!!!!??????????
lain
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:38:21 AM
IP: 64.228.196.170

oookay.. today looks like its shaping up to be a pretty bad day......

my roommates cat ate my discman headphones. id left them on the table, but the cat climbed up and ate them. no more music (aka sanity) for me.

then i tried to turn on my computer.. and, after three tries, it actually started. except that everything is REALLY BIG on it. all the icons are inexplicably huge, as is this comment room.. and the graphics on my wallpaper are screwy (probably because they are also huge..) and all of my windows are really ginormous, too.

help help!
what the heck is going on?!?!

eeeeeeeeee....

*not happy*

lain
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:37:06 AM
IP: 64.228.196.170

... just when i think that i have gotten rid of my sanity...

this day could not get any worse...

i just found out that last night, i kid i know killed himself...

i didn't know him that well, but i couldn't feel worse... the last thing i said to him was to leave me alone (cause he was driving me nuts about a comment i had made about buying doughnuts! o.o) the last thing he said to me was f@ck off fat bastard.

it sounds like we didn't like eachother, but i was cool with him if he were cool with me... but it just hurts ya know? to know that was the last thing we ever got to say to eachother...

today is also the 24th anniversary of Terry Kath's death.

the school is very quiet today. i think things are gonna be that way for the next few days.

i need to go and do some homework now.

"But whatever road you choose, i'm right beside you, win or loose... be couragous and be brave, and in my heart you always stay, forever young"- Rod Stewart

-={The Mourning King Terrky Kath, The Efficeint Rock Star}=-

Terrky K - [rock_star_x11@yahoo.com]
Kansas
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:20:11 AM
IP: 208.18.58.254

** Niamhgold enters **

Not much doing. Classes, of course, began yesterday. My six-hour portrait class looked like it was going to be simple, until I got there. I'm actually excited about it (despite the fact that the skull model we had to buy cost eight years of my life ;)); I like the fact that the guy is an assignment-nazi. His quote is "People who don't get work for me done should DIE" or "people who don't know the difference between conte and charcoal should be SHOT" ;) Plus, he's a big film noir/lighting buff, so we're going to be watching Seven and Matrix. Sergio's all giddy about that.

Then, today I've got a resume review and two classes. One's a 7-10, but that's better than last semester's 4-10. And now I have Thursdays off as opposed to Mondays.

Replies!:

FS and Ravyn: Ooh, luck on the wisdom tooth recovery! Just think...never again, never again, vile teeth!

Ghost of Reverend Attila: <Don't worry you get some kitty loving, too :) I saw your pics ::purrr::> Wow...thanks :) Too bad I'm not a cat person ;)

Shadowrider: Thanks, thank you so much. I'm sorry too...but at least it wasn't one of those painful deaths. It seemed natural enough (uh, from what I can tell about death ;)). How are finals coming for you? Stressed? Email me at any time, I'll be around to help. I'm glad to know that you at least got to relax a bit over the winter with your significant other. :: hugs :: Just don't go any more insane on us. And, as for the comments you made...I was completely flattered, thank you. I'm never offended by anything you say :) <Well, I must admit the Skyray looks great!> Isn't it beautiful? And so meticulously crafted, too :)

Gside: <In case you see this in time, it just snowed here, but the Turnpike should be cleared by morning> Thanks for letting me know that (I did see it). Once again, the Turnpike seemed to be the least of my troubles, except for the whole "going-to-nod-off-it's-so-long" part ;) It was the getting lost in Queens beforehand that sucked :) <Oh, and it looks like I'll be working on a project to relate genetics and schizos next semester.> Ooh, I'll volunteer!

Daddy: <Schizophrenia is genetic. Project finished> Unless you let them conduct experiments on you. That's where I come in. <That's still cheaper than LA> Gas prices in LA were cheaper than NH, actually. It was San Fran that was really high. <I'm really sorry to hear about the dog> Thank youj. <Remember when you were at my house and my brother was saying that I was bad luck because every time I come home someone dies?> Yes...but maybe it was _my_ bad luck extended over onto your family ;) I hope I am never devastated by anything. <On foot. Do you have any idea how screwed we would have been at the Auto Show if I had to drive to "just behind the hotel"> Yes, but it was fit to walk in LA ;) Where this place is in Baltimore...no ;) <Animal Farm?> Napolean!!! <"Looking to fill a variety of openings with your company"?> Much better :) You'll be my resume editor ;) <True. But only if you die here> Why would I move _back_? <Actually, iPhoto doesn't really interest me. In fact, I'm annoyed that it replaces Image Capture as the standard way to move pics off my digital camera> Bwhahahahah! Another useless apple product ;) <Bus powered taser!> And next up, iVibe... <Sorry about that, my roommate is a moron> Apparently, I am too...stupid 87 South. I hope so, too, one day ;) He is. But he died at 3 AM in our house and we had to bring him _somewhere_ the next morning. If you weren't meant to live through that, you'd already be dead. You'll get through this, I'm sure. Nothing you can do until you know, at least.

Ravyn: <Good luck to you too on your internship/job search! :)> Gracias :) It really helps to be having these one-on-one sessions with my advisor. I'm hopefully going to be all set up for interviews by next week, week after. <Let me know how it goes. :)> Likewise :)

Spacebabie: <Niahmgold>>>Sorry about your dog> Thanks a bunch :)

Bananas. Gotta run to class and a few other obligations. Adios!
Niamhgold
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:37:48 AM
IP: 206.41.204.144

My head hurts. I slept wrong and my neck is one big knot. Blarg.
Stuff you should have learned in Sex Ed or Health or whatever they're calling it these days.

Condoms in and of themselves are not an effective method of birth control. You must used them in conjunction with a spermicide before achieving a 95% or better effective rate.
Also, condoms *MUST* be applied soon after erection because there are sperm present in pre ejaculate.

End basic sex ed lesson.

"To Restore Amends." That was a good story. The hatchet really is buried between Goliath and David and Hudson learns the best way to improve a new skill is to teach it yourself.
kathy
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:31:40 AM
IP: 24.98.56.90

Imzadi>>Skippy: <>: Notice she doesn't use "excuse my bitchiness, its that time of the decade" as an excuse like OUR females.<<

Nah, she's just reveling in it:)

Skippy The Klingon
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 09:23:34 AM
IP: 209.245.243.88

*Warpmind wanders in, scritching his chin.*
Third night in a row with remarkably high bizarre-rate in my dreams... Usually, logic goes out the window, but lately, well... At least I think I know the reason... *Ponder* One B-52, and my dreams become erratic. Two of them, and all coherence goes on extended vacation... Wonder what happens if I have three... �� Geesh, if the bartenders just weren't so cute... At least I have a pleasant view while I drink... ;)

Metaldemon: "A lot" is an exaggeration. At least if you only count the deliberate ones; there were some that spontaneously torched themselves. (Kinda weird that; lightning setting fire to a house of God... Oh well.) Furthermore, Varg Veum has been in the slammer for murder for years now; I don't think there has been much of a brouhaha around the satanist community for, oh, at least a decade. Except each time Veum loses his appeal case in court, of course. (I mean, the guy was sentenced to 19 years max security for murder - of course he wants to get out once in a while... And by the way, 21 years is the max penalty in Norway.) As for the music, well... Some of it is actually pretty good; 'sides, the hobby-satanists are mostly a gang of wimps nowadays. Neo-Nazis are more of a concern.

Fire Storm: Why I needed an axe to get that? Um, well... It's a long story. Mostly, I needed it for whatever opposition I met. (Sentry robots, mutants, dime-a-dozen sea monsters, you know.) As for you having a dirty mind... A challenge might have an interesting outcome there. How much of the sort have you written? };)

Skippy: Actually, with gargoyles, they aren't unlikely to have a menstrual cycle like humans... Just a LOT less frequently. (This could also explain Demona being on the rag for a millennium... I mean, if she had her age set to a specific instant when she and MacBeth made their deal, it COULD happen...)

Christine: That's what I thought. *Blinks* That reminds me. I actually haven't gotten off my hiney and ordered Silversilk yet! *Gasp* Woe is me! Oh, well, I'll just have to wait until my money arrive... With luck, it's in today. Without luck, I'll be VERY hungry by tomorrow... ��

Josh: Let me get this straight... you've had protected sex. With condoms. And it looks like, in doing so, you've gotten TWO girls pregnant. *Blink* Dude... you got armor piercing sperms, or something? I mean, the odds against that happening twice to the same guy has to be... *Kerblinkity* Dude, give me seven numbers from 1 to 34, eh? I'll cut you in on the profits! Anyway, change of topic. The station does not resemble Mecha Streisand. There is no portion of Mecha Streisand on the premises. In fact, if there is any positive sighting of Streisand within four nautical miles, it will be shot down. With quite impressive organic weapons, at that. And I don't think the hobby-satanists are going to use magic to summon a thunderstorm... Not with all that metal. Think lightning rod. Which may potentially be the reason for upcoming fires in the Bergen area.

Gside: Oh, my, all the pretty colors... *Ponders painting his Tyranid in that dashing black-and-purple combo that villains look so good in.* And you're right - my friend wasn't too fond of Square. In fact, he's more into straight beat'em-ups. And arcade games, of course. I think he's got every V-scrolling and H-scrolling shoot'em-up known to man, and a few extras he won't divulge the origin of... As for the Musk... Doesn't ring a bell. I may not have gotten to that episode yet. Oh, and as for those tentacles... science is a wonderful thing, my friend. Science is a wonderful thing. };)

Well, Word Test in a few, it seems. Wish me luck. Or any other suitable abstract feature. ;)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 05:47:34 AM
IP: 194.54.100.9

Right, so excited was I about being reunited with DII, I forgot about the time until I had just about a scant eight hours in which to sleep before my next class.

Fire Storm> <<One day...>>: There's always the chance a different college uses a different and cheaper book.
<<Well, I leave my lisp at home when I go to work>>: Having some problems with the boss before?
<<Don't we all?>>: According to Wilek, no.
<<You know the virus with the tentacles in Coldstones Mind?>>: Anyone remember if they spent undue attention to Des?
<<But why?>>: Because they only keep men near you in prison, and most people don't really like the idea of things going in our outs.
<<It helps if you link to your eden account>>: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like being mysterious sometimes.

Imzadi> <<Ugh that chipmunk is *so* annoying>>: Wheeee. I seem to remember thinking it was a squirrel.
<>: Didn't say that. Just that we couldn't use it as comparison.
<>: I just occaisonally search for key phrases from successive responses.
<<Once I nuke texas, they all will>>: But will it change the environment that much?
<<To who?>>: The object of fascination, of course.

Warpmind> <<Dude... separate *skin tones*?>>: You can't expect dwarves to get away with a pansy elvish complexion, can you?
<<And here I thought the wide range of carapace tones for the Tyranids was kinda impressive>>: And then there were the extras. Blood, guts, vomit...
<<As for the SNES stuff - no doubles I could see>>: That eases my mind a bit. Though seems like your originaly supplier didn't really like Square.
<<had I not used Ranma-ish diversions... ("Look, a hundred-yen coin!")>>: Was he vulnerable to the same distractions as the Musk?

Fire Storm> <>: I don't rank a bookmark? And you really check that often for how rarely I change what's there?
<<Well, not to the gay engineers>>: Perhaps vanilla would have been more accurate.
<<'Vicious Heads' Sounds like the name of a band!>>: I stake no claims to it, so you may use it.

Lain> <<never again shall i have a roommate>>: My strategy is to admit to being compeletely lazy. But then, only one out of the five has to be my actual roomie, so there is some leeway there if personalities conflict too much.

Imzadi> <<Don't make me hit you>>: Yeah, you're going to hit me, right?<<Klingon!? I was talking about Skippy brand peanut butter>>: And he was talking about Skippy the Klingon.

Warpmind> <<Which reminds me to check out the ordering form for that live-action version of LBG>>: I just can't see a porn studio make realistic tentacles.

Spacebabie> <<We had polish sausage dogs for dinner last night>>: Mmm, kielbasa.
<<A gargoyles discussion, do female gargoyles get that time of the month?>>: More like that time of the decade, if at all.

Fire Storm> <<Does that mean we WON'T be rooming together at the Gathering?>>: Of course not. He'll be with me. In the biblical sense.
<>: If you pay me, I can ship it.

Imzadi> <<Then back home to actually SHOWER (yes, I did go to class without one)>>: Join us, do not be afraid.
<>: That is a lot of why this place is here.
<<Have you been trying to light your farts on fire again?>>: That'd be some intestinal tract.
<<Hey for every horror story, there is a success story>>: I've managed to live three years with completely random roomies, and I've survived.
<<I'm sure I've seen some hentai like this>>: "It feels good in the prostate" -Garret Glick, The Medium, repeatedly.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 03:25:03 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Alright, well today was...short.

Woke up at the butt-crack of dawn, a.k.a. 7:36. My first class was at 8AM, and I totally failed to sleep last night. Then, my alarm clock's volume was OFF, so it didn't wake me up at 7. So I rolled out of bed, turned on my machine, got dressed, and went to class.

My first class was 120, Structural Engineering. The Prof seems nice enough, and best of all, he speaks English. Hopefully, the class won't be too tough. There's some 2-D modelling involved, for which I will show off the awesome powers of my iBook...running VPC :-( Oh well, better than nothing.

Then back home to actually SHOWER (yes, I did go to class without one), and off to my 150 class, transportation engineering. My friend seems to think it will be horribly boring, but I don't think so. We talk about all kinds of stuff, from airports to roadways to bridges. The prof clearly doesn't speak english natively, but he does speak it clearly, which is nice. This one should be a bit more work, with a lab project, presentations, 3 midterms, a final, and a few homework assignments.

Next was 167, project management. Somehow, I think this class is going to be nothing but a metric buttload of memorization. It has field trips, homeworks, midterms, a final, and a paper. Not looking forward to all that crap. Both lecturers and the TA speak english.

Yes, I am obsessed/concerned with my teachers ability to speak english. And if YOU were an American engineering student, you would be too.

My research meeting today was cancelled, so my day was over at 1230. Not bad for a first day. Tomorrow I'll have my 4th class, 175 (geotech engineering). If all goes well, I'll have 5 english-speaking professors! That will make me a happy panda.

Had to pick up a few more books today (bringing my total book bill to about $420, but other than that I didn't do much.

And where the F*CK is Sevarius Jr? And Jan?

And in other news...

***WARNING: Something of a personal nature***
No, not that personal, you sick f*cks.

About a year ago, 2 months after my last girlfriend and I broke up, my girlfriend had a pregnancy "scare". She never told me, until maybe last spring. I was annoyed, but relieved that it had been only a scare, and that she was only late.

Last night I get this bombshell dropped on me: she lied to me. We'd never had unprotected sex, so I foolishly assumed that it she didn't get pregnant (condoms are reportedly pretty damn effective). She was in fact, pregnant, and the psychopath starved herself until she miscarried. Not only did she lie to me, but she saw fit to tell my best friend (who didn't pass the info along because he assumed that I knew) the truth.

How did I find this out? My best friend told the girl I hooked up with recently (he assumed it was public knowledge), and she told me tonight. Now I'm terrified that I may have gotten her pregnant (she's getting checked out).

I won't lie, I wouldn't have wanted the child (neither did she, I'm sure), and I would have tried (and probably succeeded) to persuade her to have an abortion. All she had to do was ask, and I would have paid for it. But no. She preferred to lie to me. And tell my best friend, who she was trying to sleep with at the time. Then she told my best friend that she was going to tell me...guess she forgot about that part.

I'm ill. I feel like I can't trust myself around women, like I should just lock myself in my living space for the rest of my life so as to reduce the risk of spreading my genetic material and the risk of inflicting a child on anyone. Like I should run out tomorrow and get a vasectomy at the ripe old age of 20, just to be sure that I can never go back.

I don't even know why I'm talking about this in here. I just need to vent. Most of you guys are my friends, so I guess its easier to post in here than tell you all individually. Of course the 2 people that hate me (or whatever steadily increasing number it is) will just laugh, and that's fine too.

I have this horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach, and I don't know how to get rid of it. I feel like the most irresponsible foolish person on the face of the planet. I can't handle this.

I'll never sleep again.

***END RANT****

replies!

Warpmind: <<illegitimate offspring of a kraken and an oil rig>>: Mecha-streisand? <<You need a sentient, cephlapoid science station for marine locations?>>: Don't we all? <<Things and Doohickeys and Gizmos and Gadgets Man Was Not Meant To Know, as well as some very pretty barmaids>>: that sounds like something I'd expect to see in hitchhiker's guide. <<it might appear as though they are trying to summon a massive thunderstorm>>: Here in Berkeley, you don't need to be a satanist to summon a massive thunderstorm. You just show up and one will be along any day now... <<if you hear reports of an explosive fire in Norway sometime around next week, you know why>>: Have you been trying to light your farts on fire again?

DPH: <<How many times must I log into Yahoo Email with Internet Explorer before it remembers to use the correct email address?>>: I thought there was an auto-fill thingy you could set up to do that for you. <<How do I do that?>>: On windows? No idea. On the mac, its in my security preferences. <<you always have lots and lots of spelling errors>>: those army guys are dumb as bricks. <<You guys are making me wonder about getting a roommate>>: Hey for every horror story, there is a success story. My best friend and I live together, and we get along fine. But obviously, no roommate will be perfect.

Stephen: <<a bit miffed>>: A Perfect Mind was a great movie, but you're right. LoTR should have won stuff. <<a new computer>>: MAC! MAC!

Spacebabie: <<my brother keeps going to this tanning salon>>: I don't think I wanna know. <>: I bet you did. <<Is this room dead?>>: Probably not. <<Come on people post!>>: Yes ma'am! <<do female gargoyles get that time of the month?>>: That time of the year maybe? Or decade? Because that time of the month is part of the fertility cycle, and garg females are on a much slower fertility cycle than human women. <<It seems there were a lot of religion related topics on tv last night, first Boston Public>>: I saw that ep. It was pretty good. But what was up with that pregnant girl!? <<Angel, Cordy and Connor in bed. it was sooo cute>>: So, you're into threesomes, huh? <<there are some uptight prudes who visit this room>>: Here?! No! <>: Maybe start? <<Now now It keeps the vampires away>>: Still... <>: He's on SG-1 now anyway. <<It�s not a chipunk it�s a squirrel>>: Whatever! <<Neither do I or my brother>>: Stop it, I'm trying to feel special. <<Big whoop, I have a four day weekend plus no classes on Wednesdays, so Neener Neener Neener!>>: Now, I have to kill you.

Fire Storm: <>: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. <<They forgot a tooth>>: Does that mean you have to go back? <<is the nitrous on?>>: Not a good thing to hear. <<they get larger when inside of you>>: I'm sure I've seen some hentai like this. <<Does that mean we WON'T be rooming together at Gathering?>>: You can get in line...apparently I'm in demand ;-) <<that WOULD be you>>: Good point. <<There is a poster in here names Skippy the Klingon>>: I know that. I was talking about the peanut butter. <<Tim-may gets the babes AND was the leader of a rock band>>: Never thought I'd be jealous of a retard. <<What's your opinion>>: I know you didn't ask, but my advice is to stay the hell away from junk stocks. They're way too volatile. Besides "Do you think Kmart will be a good buy if it is still around in a month" is kind of a silly question, since if you're questioning their mere existence, their stock can't be doing that well. Whether down in the dumps or just the object of a takeover bid, both of those suggest sinking stock values. I'd take that cash and invest in the few tech sector stocks that are still making money, or a mutual fund. <<Necrophelia abounded>>: Yay!

Allaine: <<yes, I know it had commercials and ABC edited it and it isn't even very good, but it's been four years and I still haven't seen it>>: After all that, why didn't you just rent it? <<you�d have to shoot me in both knees and drag me into the theater to get me to see an overhyped, overblown rock video starring, of all people, Nicole Kidman>>: I believe i said something similar.

David G: <>: I wish *I* had attractive co-workers. No, no I don't. That would mean that I had a job. Nevermind.

Skippy: <>: Notice she doesn't use "excuse my bitchiness, its that time of the decade" as an excuse like OUR females.

Sarge: <<I've arranged my room completely so that there is less stuff than before, but more room is taken up. I do not understand how it happened but it did>>: Neat trick. <<Excuse me do you have an ibook?" "no">>: No?! Where did you go? <>: Oh god yes. Completely different. Much more fun. Much more stable. <<Enough computer talk now>>: No such thing.

Christine: <<Book of All Flesh>>: Is that a porn story?

Okay I need to at least TRY to sleep after tonight's events. Though I may not. For a while. And now, a fitting quote from the rotation:

You�re Satan, aren�t you?
-Gene Siskel, �The Critic�

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, January 23, 2002 02:19:55 AM
IP: 64.173.20.127

Warpmind > yup, it was DOE that had the Kovalic intro. What a great guy! I was really pleased and honored to get intros from three of the coolest people in gaming for that first trilogy. My way of paying tribute to my gamer roots ; )

Belated sympathies to everyone who had their teeth yanked ... after seeing Tim through the same thing just a few weeks ago, I know how wretched you all must have been. Hope all's better soon.

Writing Update > apparently, The Book of All Flesh is reviewed in the latest SF Chronicle, and they say good things about my story in particular! Will post a quote once we get our copy. Also got my first royalty check from RAP -- an actual amount this time, as opposed to the buck-fourteen that I used to get from (boo, hiss!) Sterling House. Did, however, rack up another rejection for a story called "The Woman in the Water," but as it happened that was actually kind of good news -- I told myself that if the anthology turned it down, I'd have it for the Feb. Sabledrake. And as I haven't had time to write anything else for the Feb. Sabledrake (not counting my column and a review of a few books), it's nice to have the story. Still got two short stories out waiting for their turn to be rejected.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:59:56 PM
IP: 64.24.187.110

Howdy all,

I think I'll make this my last Episode discussion. If anyone else wishes to continue the thread be my guess. Rather than follow the chronological order, I thought I try my favorite episode from the 1st season, "To Restore Amends"

I like it so much because it was a natural extension of two of the main characters, Hudson and Xanatos. I liked that Xanatos needed to prove to himself that he could change. I especially like Hudson feeling useless and then find a new purpose in teaching the clones. Maddox was an interesting wrinkle in the story. It really did add to the mystery and also connected things with other stories.

I'll leave the floor open. Any comments or Q&A. I'd recommend a rereading if you haven't in a while. Quite a good story.

See ya later.
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 08:53:40 PM
IP: 24.205.118.88

Let's see. I've arranged my room completely so that there is less stuff than before, but more room is taken up. I do not understand how it happened but it did. *sigh*

Went to a party and had a grrrreat time. They had to get three glasses of caffine in me before I could smile though. Mmmm . . . . Dr. Pepper and Creame soda! My brother bought Swedish fish for both of us to give. I felt bad since I didn't get him anything so I thought of drawing a dragon for him since he loves dragons.

I went shopping for computers today . . . . just to see how they feel. "Excuse me do you have an ibook?" "no" "damn" Well at least I got a neat little packet on the ibook . . . even though I've already SEEN it. I saw the Mac OS x though. . . . GREAT system from what I saw. Completely different from my 8.6 system.

Enough computer talk now. What else can I rant off to you guys? Hmmm not much. This Saturday I'm suppose to go to the airport in Burlington. Let's see if the new security upgrades can detect the metal rods on my spine.

LAIN>>> Sounds like a bad situation with you and your roomate. I hope you manage to work it out.
Sarge Abernathy
Barre, the 14th one, USA
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 08:31:46 PM
IP: 205.188.197.49

Spacebabie>>
A gargoyles discussion, do female gargoyles get that time of the month?<<

I think Demona's been on the rag for the past thousand year..:)

Seriously, since the fiction establishes that Gargoyles reproduction is much less frequent, it's unlikely they have a menstural cycle like human females.

Skippy The Klingon
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 07:53:47 PM
IP: 209.245.243.69

DERN LOT BOYS!
Fire Storm
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 05:59:49 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

For those of you that missed Angel...

***ANGEL SPOILERS!***

Holtx is trying to get an army
Angel tried to make money
Necrophelia abounded
Wes and Gunn both REALLY want Fred
Fred almost lost her head (which would have made her dead)
And the episode ended with Angel and Cordy in bed together.

***END SPOILERS!***
So, all in all, no REALLY big plot things were revealed.
Anonymous
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 05:59:30 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Hi ya'll. I spent a good MLK day. I took an attractive co-worker of mine to see Brotherhood of the Wolf, then had dinner with her and wandered the mall for a while.

I seem to recall that it was a good movie... :)

On the other hand, I missed Angel. Oh well- the re-runs will be on in a month or so.

In other news, Lifehouse has just passed the Three Song test. I gotta catalog AV materials more often. It's a great way to find out if I want to buy CDs before the bands release enough singles.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 05:22:24 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Spacebabie> There wasn't anything really important that happened on Angel, was there? Because I used my VCR to tape Alien: Resurrection last night (yes, I know it had commercials and ABC edited it and it isn't even very good, but it's been four years and I still haven't seen it), and I'd hate to have missed out on something that affected the overall story arc.

Sobotka> There�s this arcade on the college campus where I take my bar review classes, and they have this one machine called Ultracade which has about fifty classic games on it (Zoo Keeper, Joust, Black Tiger, Bubble Bobble, etc.), and the one game it doesn�t have that I wanted the most is Tron (well, that and Moon Patrol). God, I miss that game. *Golden Globes* Personally I haven�t seen LotR yet, so I�m not prepared to wonder if it was cheated out of an award or not. Personally I liked �A Beautiful Mind�, although not enough to consider it Best Picture, but I do think Russell Crowe has a legitimate shot at repeating. As for �Moulin Rouge�, well, like I tell people, you�d have to shoot me in both knees and drag me into the theater to get me to see an overhyped, overblown rock video starring, of all people, Nicole Kidman. (I would _much_ rather see Naomi Watts get Best Actress for �Mulholland Drive�, which I am rooting for this year, but if Sissy Spacek wins, I won�t mind, just because after watching Angelina Jolie win an Oscar, I couldn�t bear to see another talentless pretty face win so soon after.)

Sincerely, Allaine (who usually spell-checks before he writes :P)
Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, PA
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 04:43:35 PM
IP: 146.145.37.9

DPH: <No, it's welcome to the good old boys system of being hired: you can't be hired unless you know one of the employees and/or you're overqualified for the job.>
Well, that too.
"So... I can't get the job because I am not overqualified? And at the pay rate you are offering, you really expect to get someone who is even QUALIFIED?"

Ravyn: <Oh, heck yeah!!! I second that one. :) Vicodin rules too.>
Dems some GOOD Meds! But I stopped the Vicodin Saturday. Still on Ibuprofen, though.
<Hope you're still healing up all right>
They forgot a tooth, its a little sore, and I still can't completely open my mouth...
But I am doing good. Better than I had expected.
<No, seriously, my jaw feels kinda tight like FS's does>
Ya know... with that wording, I think it is best to say it's the drugs talking!

Imzadi: <Ah, I'm a wuss, so they knocked me out>
Well, that pretty much knocked me out!
"Hey, is the nitrous on? If not, I think there's something wrong with this oxygen"
(It didn't help that I read about a recent death caused by a doctor mistaking the NOX valve for the O2 valve)
<I'm not sure if that would be scarier than being assimilated>
Sexual Assimilation Tentacles. And they get larger when inside of you.
<Don't make me hit you>
Does that mean we WON'T be rooming together at the Gathering? ;)
<Probably not. That distinction goes to the people who can afford it.>
But if you rule the world, that WOULD be you.
<Klingon!? I was talking about Skippy brand peanut butter>
There is a poster in here names Skippy the Klingon.
<Yeah, but not the new ones. In the new ones, if the black guy dies first, some a-hole screams "racism">
I saw some recent movie (HORRIBLE plot, acting, effects, etc), where there was this werewolf with metal skin. There was ONE black man in it, and once I saw him go into the lab where the werewolf was supposed to be, I KNEW he would die within a minute.
I was right.

Green Baron: <Drugs can give you Tim-may brain>
What's so bad about that? Tim-may gets the babes AND was the leader of a rock band!
What's your opinion: Do you think Kmart will be a good buy if it is still around in a month? The stock is currently down below a dollar.

lain: <Roommate>
Hmm... Well, I know of ways to get rid of her...

Warpmind: <Close, but no cigar. I'll give you a hint as to its contents>
Hmm... And why did you need an axe to get that?
<Oh, and... Lord Naughtius of Borg? *Blink* Dude... I think you might need some tips on the finer points (puns intended) on the application of such, hm, organs>
Well, I just have a dirty, DIRTY mind.
<(Which reminds me to check out the ordering form for that live-action version of LBG...)>
LIVE version? Hmm... Maybe *I* should check that out too...
I never even saw LBG Anime!

Fire Storm
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 03:02:03 PM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Whoops, I hit the submit button way too soon.

Silvadel - <A series based on the rangers would be way too bland for my tastes.> It depends on how it is handled. ST:NG was a crew on 100% starfleet officers, but things were still interesting.

**BABLYON 5 SPOILERS**
<if you had holographic systems, what interface would be more accurate and responsive than the one they had? It is 100% analog and given a lot of skill in the weaponeer very very accurate.> It wouldn't work for every ship, though. The White Star didn't use that interface. The only I would want to use a holographic interface is if I had 2 people skilled in its use because I would worry about the weaponeer getting exhausted during a long battle and eventually needing sleep.

<we live for the one we DIE for the one. The captain of the crew is like 1/4 of the way sane which is enough to get him into trouble.> The Minbari have taken honor and arrogance to the extreme. I would like this phrase "We serve the one through life AND death." better than the current saying.

I'm still confused about this new race. They can't be as old as the 1st one, so they must be about the same age as the vorlons and shadows.
**end babylon 5 spoilers**

Green Baron - <Well, you must liek him then.> Yes. BTW, what's up with your spelling? Even when I communicate through instant messaging you always have lots and lots of spelling errors.

You guys are making me wonder about getting a roommate. I imagine if they have to go through my dad, they would run away first.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 01:13:47 PM
IP: 204.94.193.54

Not much, my brother keeps going to this tanning salon, it doesn't bother me but he wants me to wrap tapte around his tattoo.

We had polish sausage dogs for dinner last night. I cooked the saudages, I put them in a pot with a little water, rubbed in some olive oil and sprinkled some sage, it was yummy and simple.

Is this room dead?
Come on people post!
Where is Jan? I miss her.
Lets start a debate

Should Johnny Walker be executed yes or no.

A gargoyles discussion, do female gargoyles get that time of the month?

It seems there were a lot of religion related topics on tv last night, first Boston Public then Crossing Jordan.

Angel Spoilers......................

Cordelia really shone last night, first with her saying Angel was taking on too many cases then when she went to rescue Fred and trying to do it civally by returning the money.

Guun and Wesley were funny with their drooling over Fred and that bit with them trying to protect that woman from her zombie ex.
I also adored the end with Angel, Cordy and Connor in bed. it was sooo cute.
Spoilers end------------------------------------------

Small Replies
Gside<<<For the gonads or strife?>>>The gonads and the drugs..but I get what your saying, but I feel better to be safe than sorry cause there are some uptight prudes who visit this room.

Josh<<<Smoke less crack>>> I don�t smoke anything.<<<You have a WWJD cross? You are *so* ineligible.>>> Now now It keeps the vampires away.<<<Your goal: make a bomb out of them.>>> I am not Mcguyver<<<Only after I sat through it.>>> but it was full of jokes non the less.<<<Ugh that chipmunk is *so* annoying.>>> It�s not a chipunk it�s a squirrel.<<>>Neither do I or my brother.<<>>Big whoop, I have a four day weekend plus no classes on Wednesdays, so Neener Neener Neener! :P

Firestorm and Rayvn>>> Hope your teeth feel better soon, Rayvn are you taking Percadan???
Spacebabie
Orlando, Florida
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:27:10 PM
IP: 67.24.19.138

ugh, that one part was to read "didn't" instead of "did" where Flynn's training scenes are. I hate typos.

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:17:47 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

Greetings all...

Hope for much recovery for Rayvn and FS from the wisdom-teeth removals... mine never gave me much trouble, but then again one of them broke off at the crown three years ago.

Work's been hectic as usual. We lost two more workers - one went off to a funeral last week, never came back; another left for holiday last month, was due back two days ago - and one of our counter girls was attacked by a man in a ski mask early last Saturday morning. She got away after nailing him in the sweets, and ran all the way to the restaraunt to get help (though it took the cops 2 hours to respond). She's out now for a few days, and the store is now starting to feel the stress of being so short staffed...

And to top it all, the head office is complaining that those of us still working are getting way too much overtime pay (myself alone clocked in nearly 40 hours worth this last pay cycle). <growl> Wonder if they're either going to try to bump some people from some of the other stores to ease up on our staffing troubles, or force my boss to cut back on hours, or do something else to cut back on labor...

Watched the Golden Globes, and was a bit miffed that the Foriegn Press gave all the awards to "A Perfect Mind" and "Moulin Rouge"... I felt Pete Jackson's "LoTR" should have won at least Best Director or Best Film... Oh, well, perhaps he'll be redeemed at the Oscar's or People's Choice.

Picked up the special edition disc of "TRON"... it's something to see the widescreen version (hated the pan-n-scan for years!), and to see how cheezy the theatrical trailers were back then! The documentary included in the second disk was informative, especially since the guys that made TRON were also the dudes that made the "Animalympics" movie... but the Deleted scenes bit was a bit of a letdown; only the "love scene" between Tron (Bruce Boxlitner) and Yori (Cindy Morgan). I'd read it in the novelization, and it sort of irked me the scene was pulled from the release of the film. But that wasn't what really got to me... They did show scenes of Flynn's training in the war games (disc throwing, the ring game & lightcycles), to set up for the fact that he IS a wizard at video games. A piece that really is needed in this film.

one fun thing, in the trailers they show a scene of Sark blitzing a conscript in the ring game, which was supposed to be the original start of the film, rather than Sark doing the same on the Lighcycle grid.

Also, going to go down to see a fellow about a new computer... high time I upgraded, and I found a place that just might have the solutions I need.

Will have more to say later... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:13:42 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

How many times must I log into Yahoo Email with Internet Explorer before it remembers to use the correct email address? I have not logged into my regular yahoo email account in a while, but Internet Explorer keeps insisting on using the old email account.

Imzadi - <Don't you have the preference to prevent people you don't know from messaging you?> How do I do that? <I'm doomed to be a file clerk for the rest of my life.> IMHO. Of course, I could be wrong. There are several jobs you can get hired for without having inside help, but generally those are lower paying.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:07:13 PM
IP: 204.94.193.18

InzanE> Didn't Norway have a lot of Church burnings awhile back with Varg Verkins and some problems other underground Satanic and Viking bands (Mayhem, Emperor, Burzum and others)? I think there were also some killings among them.
i used to listen to their music (I took them as harmless, too), then I read up on all that happened a few years back in Norway and sort of sold their CDs :D.
Anyways, I figured that wannabe satanists were pretty dangerous in the Netherlands since most of them listen to and follow the aforesaid bands. Chilling!
metaldemon
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 09:16:38 AM
IP: 129.120.35.51

*Warpmind wanders in again, looking somewhat puzzled.*
Y'know, I just realized what I've observed over the past week... there has been a DISTURBING increase of hobby-satanists in Bergen lately. (Recognizable in the manner that they dress mych like Aaron, and tend to wear somewhere between ten and fifteen pounds worth of cheap, satanical-looking jewelry and steel studs/spikes in their clothes.) Now, under most circumstances, I'd pay such individuals no significant attention; they are, after all, mostly harmless. (You'll never hear me say that about the pros, though.) But now, I'm getting a bit concerned... By the looks of it, they're numbering possibly in the thousands in a very narrow geographical area... it might appear as though they are trying to summon a massive thunderstorm. Of course, with their extensive metalwork, it should be relatively safe to be outside, but Bergen has burned after lightning strikes before... So if you hear reports of an explosive fire in Norway sometime around next week, you know why... ��

Oh, well, merry day, all.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 07:54:14 AM
IP: 194.54.100.9

*Warpmind strolls in, casually flipping through photographies of what can best be described as the illegitimate offspring of a kraken and an oil rig.*
Ah, the joy of seeing my pet projects reach completition... Too bad I don't actually need it... Hey, Wilek! You need a sentient, cephlapoid science station for marine locations?

Anyway, replies...

Mooncat: I personally like Yeagar's attitude... He's got this nice "Why miss Heaven just by inches?" philosophy... };)

Fire Storm: Close, but no cigar. I'll give you a hint as to its contents, though: there are no verified proof of Atlantis discovered, and for a good reason. };) Oh, and... Lord Naughtius of Borg? *Blink* Dude... I think you might need some tips on the finer points (puns intended) on the application of such, hm, organs. };) (Which reminds me to check out the ordering form for that live-action version of LBG...)

Lain: ... ... ... That sucks... Wish there was something I could do... :(

Josh: Where I've been? Well... It's a long story, involving Things and Doohickeys and Gizmos and Gadgets Man Was Not Meant To Know, as well as some very pretty barmaids... On another note, Dork Tower is a marvellous comic. Check out Christine's book... uh... I'm pretty *sure* it was Dark of the Elvenwood, but... anyway, one of the Magelore books has an introduction by Kovalic, portraying Dork Tower events. Oh, and I'm not reading the Word manual. I may be InzanE, but I'm not a complete idiot. It is better compared to a big honkin' tutorial.

Well, better get back to work; lunchbreak's almost here.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 05:47:41 AM
IP: 194.54.100.9

Today was my last day before getting back to the grind. The fact that I don't have classes on Fridays will make life much easier, so will only taking 12 units + research. Anyway, I spent it doing laundry and not much else. Trying to fully soak in the "not in class" thing, even though I have a THREE DAY WEEKEND every week ;-)

Not to rub it in or anything...but neener neener neener!

anyway, replies

Warpmind: <<Ye Olde Bag O' Looting>>: Where ya been? <<Dork Tower>>: Is that like an Ivory Tower for 1337 H4><0r's? <<There's a relief>>: No kidding. I think he'd permanently disturb the entire male fandm. <>: Isn't that true for everyone in this CR? <<Same intellectual level of output, same obvious buttons... Different text specifics, though... Oh, well, I guess there are plenty of those "first" programs around>>: Don't worry, I don't plan on distributing it. <<gotta get back to the Word course. Or maybe I'll go grab some coffee instead first>>: No amount of coffee could let me stay awake through that manual...

Fire Storm: <>: Freak. <<Demoral was what they gave me DURING the operation>>: Ah, I'm a wuss, so they knocked me out. <<that stuff really DOES work!>>: Der. <<Prepare to be tentacle raped>>: I'm not sure if that would be scarier than being assimilated. <>: Don't make me hit you. <<Like Wilek>>: I know, I was trying to say it without directly referencing him. <<we will be the first to play with all the cool new Tech>>: Probably not. That distinction goes to the people who can afford it. <>: It was funny. <<Or just fund this one>>: Most people, when they have an idea, need more than just an idea to show the VC's. <>: I can't fund brain farts, sadly. <>: Klingon!? I was talking about Skippy brand peanut butter. <>: Maybe later. <<At least in the older ones?>>: Yeah, but not the new ones. In the new ones, if the black guy dies first, some a-hole screams "racism". <<Unobtanium crystals?>>: That's what my shades are made of...

DPH: <>: Don't you have the preference to prevent people you don't know from messaging you? <<ten times easier than doing it in C>>: Probably true, though I don't know C so I couldn't tell you. <<you can't be hired unless you know one of the employees and/or you're overqualified for the job>>: I'm doomed to be a file clerk for the rest of my life.

The Wizard: <<Just saying I made it in>>: Congrats.

Green Baron: <<Drugs can give you Tim-may brain>>: A LOT of them, yeah. <>: Whatever, its annoying. <<Network administrators couldn't score high enough on the ASVAB to be Finance Corps>>: That's a fitness test, right? You'd be surprised. Some of us geeks are actually in good shape.

Lain: <<roomie hell>>: Jeez, you've got it rough. I'm really sorry. If I were you, I'd bitch her out. You've paid for a year, so your landlord can't evict you without good cause (and I'm sorry, but bitching at your landlords daughter does NOT count as *good cause*). I do most of the cleaning in my apartment, yeah. But when it comes to the *big* cleanups (which take place about once every two months), my roommate pitches in or I kick his ass. And my roommate makes up for not always cleaning as obsessively as I do by bring a lot of money into the apartment. He's rich, so we've got a big TV, nice leather couch, good cooking implements, etc...more than makes up for the fact that he's a lazy bum.

Tim: Good luck at pain, er...basic!

Ravyn: <<these pills are good! Whee!>>: LOL! It's ravyn on drugs! <<my jaw feels kinda tight like FS's does>>: I have many witty comments for that. <<it kills all the *taste* in your mouth for a good hour too!>>: that could be useful. <>: Somehow, I think you won't.

Tomorrow: CLASSES!

Activate SLAVE GIRLS. Fondle SLAVE GIRLS. Activate SLAVE GIRLS.
-SimShatner (with the help of Mike Margolis and Maneesh Goel)

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, January 22, 2002 02:42:16 AM
IP: 64.173.20.127

Lain -- I've had roomies from hell too. *sympathy* But girl, if you are paying half the rent, do NOT let miss priss ruin your life or make you do all the work. Flat out tell her, she has to take care of half the stuff, or she can pay a greater portion of the rent to make up for your services. If she wants to act like a princess, she should pay the price. Servants cost dough. Don't give her freebies.

Heck, if you are going to leave at the end of your lease, live like you want to live and just ignore her. Leave your jacket out. Let the dishes sit until she catches a clue and does them. Write a schedule out dividing the chores and place it prominantly where she can see it, and check off the days you do your half. Let her know she has to get her hands dirty too.

My first roomie was an absolute pig. She never ever ever cleaned. I got sick of it and cleaned exactly half of everything. One half of the stove sparkled, one half of our shared living space was picked up (I'd toss her junk back into the messy half if it spread) and I bought my own dishes and washed those and kept them separate from hers. She never cleaned up her half of things, but at least the point got across that one of us was doing upkeep and the other wasn't even trying.

Fortunately, when I lived with my boyfriend for a few years, we got on great. He was neat and tidy, by virtue of not having much stuff, and was perfectly willing and able to use the dishwasher, take out the trash, and keep things mutually picked up. I vacummed and cooked, he took care of the handy man type stuff. It was great. We worked really well together. Then my mother was in need of in house care, and my boyfriend had to move out. Since then we broke up and he's now married. sigh. Still great friends though. My mom's now in a private facility, so I'd ALMOST have my house to myself, except my brother is crashing with me until the weather gets warm. Then I'm kicking his freeloading butt out of my house. Can't wait.

Having your own place is the best. No one to wake you up by having a different schedule, and no one to clean up after except yourself. No one to raid your frig and eat all the groceries you buy... It's bliss. A good room mate is a happy find, but they are rare, rare, rare.

Good luck with your roomie.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, January 21, 2002 06:56:33 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

OK. Earlier this evening, the BBC aired an episode of Farscape that I believe has yet to be shown in the US. It comes after the episode 'Fractures'. So, for the sake of any American Farscape viewers who may be interested...

FARSCAPE SPOILERS!!!
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Farscape 3.19 - 'I-Yensch, You-Yensch'

My main impression is that this isn't exactly the greatest episode Farscape has ever done. While there was a bit of action, it just didn't feel particularly exiting. It felt like most of this was just set up for what is to come.

OK. Rygel and D'Argo are off negotiating with Scorpius. apparently, Crichton wants to help Scorpy with his wormhole research (the impression is given that this is part of some plan Crichton has to get close enough to stop Scorpy's plans), and the two of them are negotiating to guarantee the safety of Crichton and the gang. But things are interrupted by two armed robbers with big guns, who are very annoying, and I didn't feel really worked. They just made the story drag.

Meanwhile, back on Moya, the rest of the gang are getting concerned about Talyn. The young gunship is getting more and more paranoid and aggressive. After blowing away a Peacekeeper ship, he panics and blasts a medical ship, killing 600 innocent people. Whoops!

Naturally, the gang are wondering what to do about this. Crais comes up with a way to cure Talyn (in a bit of techno-babble I won't even try to remember). Unfortunately, the process will essentially erase Talyn's current memories and personality, returning him to the mental level of a newborn. Talyn is a little upset that this is even being considered and blasts a hole in Moya.

However, Talyn is eventually convinced that there is something wrong with him and he has to be cured. So Crichton, Aeryn and Crais go on board and shut him down.

And that's it. There are some nice touches in there (the scarran from the previous episode makes an appearance, the ever-complicated Crichton/Aeryn relationship is addressed, the look on Crais's face when he shuts Talyn down and announces 'He's gone.') Yet overall this is primarily a set-up episode. Not exactly exiting, but as a set-up for things to come, it works.

END OF FARSCAPE SPOILERS
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OK. The next episode airs here on Thursday. I'll probably post some more spoilers then, but for now, that's all from me...
cyberklaw - [cyberklaw@yahoo.com]
UKMonday, January 21, 2002 05:34:41 PM
IP: 152.163.201.72

I watched "What dreams may come" last night, and did anyone else get the impression that robin williams and those people he talked to were not exactly in heaven? I mean there is no contact with the powers of light. It is simply a case study in personal realities etc. In essence it is what would happen if the rules of nature were weaker. It is closer to my view of limbo than anything else -- IE some middle ground between "heaven" and "hell." I mean the only option they have besides mulling around and playing with local reality is to be reincarnated.

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As for the new B5 movie, I much preferred the crew from crusade to the crew of rangers... It is way too forced -- we live for the one we DIE for the one. The captain of the crew is like 1/4 of the way sane which is enough to get him into trouble. There was a lot more to like in the collection of scoundrels and people with widely varying agendas that were brought together for a purpose in crudade.
A series based on the rangers would be way too bland for my tastes.

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As for the persons comment on the weapons targetting -- if you had holographic systems, what interface would be more accurate and responsive than the one they had? It is 100% analog and given a lot of skill in the weaponeer very very accurate. Much more so than if you were to sit at a console and move a mouse to target.
silvadel
Monday, January 21, 2002 05:19:37 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

My post-wisdom teeth report! ;)
I hurt. Or at least I did. But these pills are good! Whee!!! :)

No, seriously, my jaw feels kinda tight like FS's does. I've been sticking to their recommendations and taking my pain pills and all that, and I think they've really been helping. The surgery went well, and everything is fine ... I just need to heal up now! And rinse my mouth with this really strong prescription antibiotic rinse stuff that's supposed to kill all the bacteria in your mouth ... I tell you what, it kills all the *taste* in your mouth for a good hour too! ;)

I apologize if I sound a little loopy for the next few days. It's the pills talkin'! ;)

Replies!

Niamh> Good luck to you too on your internship/job search! :) Hope you get a great position somewhere cool. Let me know how it goes. :)

Winterwolf> Thanks for the well wishes! Sorry that Dreamie just found out she needs hers out ... ouch! :( Tell her that I hope things go well ... she'll probably do fine. If you need any info from me or whatever, just ask! :)

Josh> <<talks about shafts for 5 minutes, then moan>> **LOL** Oh, that's funny!!! I really should do that ... ;)

Ghost of Rev Attila> <> I miss Starsinger too. :( <<Yes, I am a naughty kitty, but you know you love it.>> **giggles** :)

Sarge> <<I'm 18 and my parents control me! I so can not wait for college...>> Ohhh, good luck to you, man ... I've been there and done that, and it's not fun (the whole parental control thing). Good luck with college too, and yes, it's quite a bit better in college. At least for me it was. :)

FS> <<Behold the power of Demoral!>> Oh, heck yeah!!! I second that one. :) Vicodin rules too. Hope you're still healing up all right. :)

Coyote> **huggles** Hiya, sweetie. :)
Ravyn
Monday, January 21, 2002 03:58:54 PM
IP: 150.135.180.226

Well, I'll be leaving pretty soon. I wanted to stop in and say good-bye. I'll try to stop in whenever I can, but I'll be gone for 12 weeks of Basic followed by a ten day break, then 18 day of infantry school, week-long break, the six weeks of MOS training. I, don't know when I be back home, but I will try to find a on-line terminal during break.

Good-Bye!
Tim Phipps
Monday, January 21, 2002 01:58:56 PM
IP: 206.72.25.96

3/4 of one of them is mine, and the other 3 1/2 are hers.>> yeah, yeah, so i hit the "2" instead of the "4".. wah.
you get the point.
lain
Monday, January 21, 2002 01:53:52 PM
IP: 64.228.196.17

oh, well now THAT was lovely..

i had class thismorning, but had a few hours between classes and decided to come home and have a nap cos i didnt sleep well last night.

so im sleeping away, snug in my bed. my roommate comes home (shed been away for the weekend, at her parents house). i didnt hear her come in. i was awoken, however, to the sound of her voice talking loudly on the phone. have no clue who shes talking to, but shes talking about someone she obviously REALLY doesnt like. as the veil of sleep is slowly lifted from my eyes, i realize shes actually talking about me. about how i havent taken the recycling down yet and shes going to have to "have a talk" with me about it. (scuse me? half of that recycling is NOT mine and.. ive lived here since last may and youve taken the recycling down.. what is it.. zero times?) and i havent vaccummed the house since she left (on friday night) and there's a "trail of cereal ALL OVER the place" (actually, there are *three* rice krispies on the carpet, which i didnt notice.. i counted.. which i would have picked up if i HAD noticed.) one of her friends apparently came by to check on her cat (which she locks in her room every single time she leaves the apartment.. be it for class or to go home for the weekend.. and i have to listen to its pitiful meowing and it throwing itself against the door repeatedly trying to get out..) and couldnt get in because i had locked and put the chain (you know.. like those slidey chains they have in hotel rooms) across and she couldnt get in. "thats not really such a big deal," she said, "no, actually, it is. ill need to talk to her to find out how often she does that.." well, kathy my sweet, i do it when youre not home. i do it because, when youre not home, other people who dont live here arent supposed to come into the apartment whenever the heck they want. how would YOU like it if, say, one day i was away, you were in the bathtub and one of MY friends came by unexpectedly and were wandering around the house doing whatever they were doing? would YOU think that was reasonable? i bet you wouldnt..
and, actually, i bet i WAS in the shower at the time they came, because i must have been in the apartmaent in order to have put the chain on from the INside, and i didnt hear anything. then she said some other things, which id rather not repeat and hung up.

then she called someone else, and i got to hear the whole thing from the beginning. it was lovely. i cried for about an hour.

look, if you want to hate me, go ahead, im sure you have your reasons.. but dont string me along and try to make me think youre my friend.

then she left. i have no idea where she went. maybe to class. at any rate, i dried my eyes and went out into the apartment. i did her dishes. i vaccuumed the entire place. i swept and mopped the floor on my hands and knees. i cleaned out the microwave. i scrubbed the stove. i cleaned the tub, and scrubbed the toilet.. also by hand. i took out the bag of cat-litter shed left by the door before leaving, and took the recycling. then i removed every single item in the entire apartment that belongs to me and put it in my room (which is about the size of a shoebox).

funny, she gets to keep her crap everywhere she wants all over the apartment. her bedroom is about 2 1/2 times bigger than mine. her closet space is about 6 times as much as mine.. in her room alone. (my closet is about.. 24 inches wide.. no wait.. im gonna measure it.. oh.. its 26 inches, sorry for that drastic miscalculation.) theres 4 shelves in the storage room, 3/4 of one of them is mine, and the other 3 1/2 are hers. she uses the box freezer for her food, and i use the wee one on top of the fridge.. except, of course, when she wants to store a large box of freezies in there because there "isnt enough room" in hers. in the entranceway closet, i am allowed to put my jacket, and boots.. and thats it. she has ALL her jackets, and her 15 pairs of shoes. if i put my jacket on the chair when i come in the door, instead of in the closet, she complains.. yet her jacket sat out for 6 days once..

the real problem, here, is that her daddy owns the apartment. i guess this is why she thinks SHE owns it, and can make me do whatever she wants. shes lived here for a few years (strangely, her roommate moves out as soon as their rent is up and she has had to find another roommie every year.. wonder why..)

never again shall i have a roommate.

anyway. thats my venting for now. ill give you an update later about what happens when she comes home, sees everything sparkling clean, sees the things she was complaining about all taken care of and how long it takes her to realize that i heard every single word she said...

later.
lain
Roommie Hell
Monday, January 21, 2002 01:48:16 PM
IP: 64.228.196.17

Hey, folks. Just checking in from scenic Birch Bay; right on the water. Snowed on us the first night. Lots of neat old buildings and used bookstores in Bellingham. Must go; Becca wants to play pool. Ta!
Christine
Monday, January 21, 2002 12:43:02 PM
IP: 63.228.118.122

Hello all. Now for a real post.

DPH> <<Hmm. Let me see how many days I would get off. If I get creative, I'll have a few days off.>> Well, you coudl get Wednesday evening off. I can't think of too many Baptist holidays.

<<He is still ordained, just not actively serving a church. My state governor is a MODERATE not a conservative.>> Well, you must liek him then. He's better than the last two bozos. Too bad only one is in prison, when both shoudl be.

Daphne> <<that could be... I don't think it's gonna stop the philadelphian clebration, though... I'll keep you posted.>> And the riots will continue.

Imzadi> <<Of those, only high prices bother me.>> My cousins were tehre and tehy couldn't take teh bus because the bums stank it up so much. With Rudy no longer mayor of NYC he should be exported to other cities. he'd know how to handle bums.

<<Um, Timmy does that because he's retarded. Not because of drugs.>> Drugs can give you Tim-may brain :)

<> Yep, plus we transport Notre Dame and the Louvre to New Olrenas along with teh Arch and all teh otehr stuff to Southern Louisiana. Then we drop some bombs and let England have Normandy if they give up Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales.

<<Now that I'd pay to see.>> I bet.

<<Besides, you do actual combat stuff, while GB sits on his lard butt all day as a glorified accountant.>> I do PT every morning and go to teh gym soem afternoons. It ain't lard. I do however enjoy being in an Office a lot and I really wish I joined the Airforce as I think more and more about it.

<<Ugh that chipmunk is *so* annoying.>> I thought it was a squirrell

Gside> Not all Colleges are leftist, just too many of them.

DPH> <> But Network administrators couldn't score high enough on the ASVAB to be Finance Corps. I doubt they coudl even score high enough to make 11B (light Infantry)

Fire Storm> <<Just don't tell me that Belgian Waffles are French.>> I doubt it.

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau
Monday, January 21, 2002 12:01:36 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

** Niamhgold enters **

Well, no big post today. Just saying I made it in, despite icy conditions in New Hampshire, slick roads in Mass and Conn, and getting briefly lost in Queens ;) Despite Murphy's best attempts, I made it here alive. And, of course, I can't seem to be able to network my computer so I'm on my roomie's.

More later. I hope.

Shadowrider: Oh, yeah...no, nothing what you said to me offended me at all! I'll post more to you later...sorry about that. ;)

Adios!
Niamhgold
Monday, January 21, 2002 11:40:32 AM
IP: 206.41.205.104

I am starting to wonder how much longer before I filled up my ICQ list with people to ignore. Why I am wondering? Instant Message Spamming.

Imzadi - At $23/week, it's meager, but covers the basics. <Today I wrote my first stupidly simple application in Cocoa.> Everybody has to write those kind of programs. <Much simpler than building an application in visual basic or some such nonsense.> And ten times easier than doing it in C. See, I'm not that paranoid.

**BABYLON 5 SPOILERS**
I missed the 1st 30 minutes of the movie TWICE. Pretty good. Why use that kind of targeting system, though? Please, it's just the actress standing in front of a blue screen with computer generated images replacing the blue screen. "We live for the one and die for the one" makes sense, but the Minbari had too much emphasis on dying. Pursuing an attacking ship when you are defenseless is NOT a good idea, unless you want to commit suicide.
**END BABYLON 5 SPOILERS**

Trivia question: For 10 cybercookies, what was the 1st movie made with widespread use of green (instead of blue) screens?

Fire Storm - <Welcome to the new NEW economy.> No, it's welcome to the good old boys system of being hired: you can't be hired unless you know one of the employees and/or you're overqualified for the job.

DPH
AR, USA
Monday, January 21, 2002 11:31:26 AM
IP: 204.94.193.13

Imzadi: <But that would make things easy for you!>
I could care less! I have that link memorized!
<LOL. It pales to Vicodin>
Demoral was what they gave me DURING the operation. The Vicodin was later!
My GOD, that stuff really DOES work!
<To who?>
Hmm... I guess it all depends on your viewpoint.
<Those are just scary>
Yep.
"I am Lord Naughtius of Borg. Your Technological and Physiological distinctiveness will be added to our own.
Prepare to be tentacle raped.
Er... ASSIMILATED. Yeah... THAT'S what I meant!"
<What about Gathering?>
It depends. If you will be there, I will DEFINATELY pull out the lisp, cutie! ;)
<Aparently, there are some females who don't. Some males too, supposedly>
Like Wilek.
<Or in my case, knowing everything already. That's why I'm going to live forever>
We shall be the Immortals, ruling this planet and the rest of the cosmos.
And we will be the first to play with all the cool new Tech.
<The dude that farts?>
True, and I knew someone would bring up that movie!
I just meant that on almost every episode of Trauma, someone loses a spleen!

Or just fund this one. :)
<Its more than you've done>
I am still in the design stage.

Hey, I can think of no better reason to hate a Klingon!
<Oh, the things I've seen working at a ranch camp>
I am sure I don't want to know.
So tell me anyway!
<LOL! Just don't use "The only black guy in an action film", because one black guy always lives>
Depends. Isn't he always the first to die?
At least in the older ones?

Not at all. It's biting the cap off that hurts!

Gside: 
Well, not to the gay engineers!
<But you do get viscosity and heads>
'Vicious Heads' Sounds like the name of a band!

Warpmind: <"Ye Olde Bag O' Looting">
Filled with Euros or something more useful?
Like Unobtanium crystals?
Fire Storm
Monday, January 21, 2002 05:27:30 AM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Warpmind -- ooo! a bag of Looting! sigh. envy.

I love Nodwink, it's given me a greater appreciation for duct tape. I have my Pfianny (sp) cloisoinne pin *^_^*

I haven't read Dork Tower Yet, or Knights, but I plan to soon. But I have all of Nodwink. woo hoo!

well, the sleepies just hit.
nite peoples
MC
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, January 21, 2002 05:13:46 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

*Warpmind struts in, lugging a canvas sack labeled "Ye Olde Bag O' Looting", as well as a double-bladed battleaxe.*
Hmmm... Maybe I should cut back on Nodwick, Dork Tower'n'all? (And I haven't even gotten around to Knights of the Dinner Table yet...)

Anyway, replies...

Sarge: Bushy as in big'n'puffy, huh? There's a relief... ;)

Gside: Dude... separate *skin tones*? Hooboy... And here I thought the wide range of carapace tones for the Tyranids was kinda impressive... ;) As for the SNES stuff - no doubles I could see. And I personally prefer SNES9X to ZSNES... but that's just me, I guess. (Well, probably some other people, as well, but... you get my drift.)

Winterwolf: No Warpmind Gamma Crush. But there's the Warpmind Omega Strike, which works on a rapid two-successive-strikes technique. It's none too good for my shoulders, though...

Mara: Woo, ye're back. *Skims the diary-ish writeup.* I now know more about the two of you than I really need. Do note that "need" and "want" tend to differ slightly. };) Cobra-head sword cane, huh? I think I've seen one of those... Brass-ish hinges, about 27" blade, brown-painted (or black) cane? If it's the one I'm thinking of, I have the "regular" handle version... which is far to crummy to ever be useful, I guess. But if the steel in the cobra head cane is better, congrats. (If not, it'll at least look good on a plaque...)

Voodoo Zomb... Gunjack Valentine: Pirate *every* game made in the past five years? Dude, you're twisted. Any older titles you're interested in? ;)

Spacebabie: That was a weird dream, yeah. About as odd as mine... I'm already getting fuzzy on the details, but it involved prying Sammo Hong out of a chair, followed by dual-wielding lightsabers in a rather bizarre duel with Darth Maul. The Sev Wars version of Darth Maul, that is. Which could have been interesting, had I not used Ranma-ish diversions... ("Look, a hundred-yen coin!") In retrospect, I suppose I shouldn't have had that B-52 before retreating... ��

Josh: That program sounds eerily like one a friend of mine did in VB half a decade or so ago... Same intellectual level of output, same obvious buttons... Different text specifics, though... Oh, well, I guess there are plenty of those "first" programs around...

Well, gotta get back to the Word course. Or maybe I'll go grab some coffee instead first...
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, January 21, 2002 04:10:30 AM
IP: 194.54.100.9

Woohoo!

Today I wrote my first stupidly simple application in Cocoa. It has three buttons, each named "bob". When you click them, they change to "one", "two", and "three", and then back to "bob". When you click each once and then click the "verify" button, the window's title changes to "Yay!". Obviously, no one cares, but it taught me a lot about the simple steps in writing a cocoa application: linking, what parts of the program have to contain what information, how to build the interface, etc. Much simpler than building an application in visual basic or some such nonsense.

Other than that, I did almost nothing. This makes me happy. One more day before class starts.

replies (boy, this is gonna be a short post).

Spacebabie: <<My dream>>: Smoke less crack. <<my WWJD cross>>: You have a WWJD cross? You are *so* ineligible. <<My jewlery, keychains,make up, pepper srpay, sunglasses, bandana, credit card, pocket knife, pen light, flashlight lighter..etc>>: Your goal: make a bomb out of them. <<Josh took that. He said the class was full of jokes>>: Only after I sat through it. <,Click on my name and you will see somthing funny.>>: Ugh that chipmunk is *so* annoying.

Tim: Hope your grandpa gets better. <<ave a friendly little boxing match to see which branch is the best>>: Marines gets my vote over the Army...but personally I think the Air Force kicks the most ass. Besides, you do actual combat stuff, while GB sits on his lard butt all day as a glorified accountant.

GB: <<he has to sell his wife (who will dump him for an Airforce guy or a Finance soldier) into prostitution>>: Now that I'd pay to see.

Luminous Aphrodite: <<Life in college is one giant soap opera, I swear it.>>: You are so right.

DPH: <<must replace keys with fingerprint scanners sooner or later>>: I plan to for my house, when I build it. <<Microshaft can argue that the market is correcting itself>>: How can they argue that? <<that will cover my electric bill, telephone bill, internet bill, and maybe the water bill>>: I wish that worked for me.

Gside: <<when did they release AIM compared to the purchase? If it was before>>: I think it was before. I suppose you're right, but it could happen. <>: Who probably *really* needed a shave. <<It's more which genetic markers have a strong correlation to schizophrenia>>: Details. <<We were talking about my resume, weren't we>>: Ah, yes. My bad. I forget our trains of discussion easily, and haven't the patience to go back and re-read them. <<So you get Mara, you get Aaron. Then Robby comes with Aaron. But who follows Robby>>: Once I nuke texas, they all will ;-) <<You didn't get it when I said strapon?>>: I did, I just failed to connect the two. <>: I see. <<straight dynamics was more fun filled than fluids>>: The class itself might be, but the lectures aren't as funny. <<For the gonads or strife?>>: Gonads. Strife doesn't make for PG-13 anymore.

Fire Storm: <<It helps if you link to your eden account>>: But that would make things easy for you! <<Behold the power of Demoral!>>: LOL. It pales to Vicodin. <<Fan girls are worse than fanboys>>: To who? <<Or assimilation tentacles>>: Those are just scary. <>: What about Gathering? <<Don't we all?>>: Aparently, there are some females who don't. Some males too, supposedly. <<what's the point of learning everything if you are going to die when you are 80?>>: Or in my case, knowing everything already. That's why I'm going to live forever. <<the 'Spleen'>>: The dude that farts? <<Low priority project, lack of funding>>: I need to find another geek to do this for me. <>: Its more than you've done. <<But why?>>: I've heard some people don't like gang rape. <<That's just 1000 payments of $19.95. Please allow 6-8 years for delivery.>>: Fine. You'll get the first payment on receipt of blueprints. <<What did he ever do to you>>: I hate peanut butter ;-) <<Women just don't know what they want>>: So true. <<You haven't been rubberbanded>>: Oh, the things I've seen working at a ranch camp. <<"The Eggshell" or "The black guy in a horror film">>: LOL! Just don't use "The only black guy in an action film", because one black guy always lives. <<gonna build one soon>>: Good, you can use it to power my suit. <>: I bet that hurts.

Okay, I'm off to finish Riven

There is an old vulcan proverb: only Nixon could go to China.
- Spock, �Star Trek VI: the Undiscovered Country�

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, January 21, 2002 02:46:12 AM
IP: 64.173.20.127

Gside: <For the new mp3, you'll have to go to my eden account>
It helps if you link to your eden account.
http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~gside/temp/
Fire Storm - [<--- Gside Eden Account]
Sunday, January 20, 2002 11:38:28 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

I feel better. My jaw is still a little sore, but the meds are making it all better.
And my wisdom teeth are doing pretty good too.
Behold the power of Demoral!

Ravyn: <no one will freakin' hire me!!>
Welcome to the new NEW economy.
<Thank you again for your help on that>
No problem! Just glad I could help you from here!

Gside: 
Fan girls are worse than fanboys
<But these would be rending tentacles, not fun tentacles>
Ah, true. Or assimilation tentacles.
<The second is more expensive>
One day...
<You forgot to aspirate the a. Fahbulous>
Well, I leave my lisp at home when I go to work.
<Hey, I like porn>
Don't we all?

Wilek: <No wonder you want a mechanical body>
Well, what's the point of learning everything if you are going to die when you are only 80?
<You too? The best place to hide is inside someone else's mind, innit?>
Oh, for sure! Especially when they think you are not in their mind!
<Holy GAWDS. Best wishes for a quick and relatively painless recovery, and my condolences for having to stay in a hospital. Miserable places>
It was fairly painless. Luckly, it was only a few hour ER visit.
And Dr. Carter wasn't there. Must have had the night off.
<How do you think I've evaded the notice of the CIA? Not to mention NASA and SETI>
True, true...
As for me, as long as I stay out of the news, I can deny it all.

Odd, yes.
Maybe I will call one the 'Spleen'
<Nokkar and Golem, mayhap?>
Hmm... now THAT is interesting!
<That all depends on what the tentacle does, yes?>
Yes. And with you, it won't do the fun stuff.
Hmm... Now HERE is a story thought:
You know the virus with the tentacles in Coldstones Mind? Well... ;)

Imzadi: <then tell me why you're so far behind>
Low priority project, lack of funding.
I look at that little thing and LAUGH.
<Avoiding gang rape>
But why?
<most engineers CAN"T design a bridge>
I know, I know...
BUT we can figure out a way to turn scrap into a machine! ;)
<I'm guessing you can't do that, then>
I can, I just don't want him revealing all of the engineer secrets.
<Dude, I need an exosuit. Pronto!>
Ok! That's just 1000 payments of $19.95. Please allow 6-8 years for delivery.
<Damn skippy>
Why? What did he ever do to you?
<Then explain to me why the two funniest guys I know (both programmers) can't get girls to save their souls?>
Women just don't know what they want.
<Testes...one, two...check, they're both there!>
Oh good! You haven't been rubberbanded!

Shadowrider: <Good choices>
Why thank you! I was also thinking of "The Eggshell" or "The black guy in a horror film" ;)
<Let's say that the work itself was quite interesting (although completely non-creative), but putting it on paper was definitely not...>
I just like jet engines. Got part of one in my garage and am gonna build one soon. (Axial, 60lb thrust and 90hp shaft power)

SargeAbernathy: <Of course this maybe useless advice if your dentist does something different.>
Mine is a bit different. Just rinse with salt water (Have yet to do that... but I do use lysterine)

Green Baron: <That reminds me about the smurfs being Communist, too>
I prefer to think of them as Nazis.
<French fries are Belgian, actually>
Just don't tell me that Belgian Waffles are French.

Winterwolf: <What no Warpmind Gamma Crush?>
Na... too intellignet! I think that if you wrap Warpmind in furs and give him a war axe, he won't be thinking too much!

Gunjack: <FS, have you seen this game? If not, there's something wrong with you and you're different and strange>
I have seen it, PlanetAVP is one of my daily visits...
But I haven't played the game yet. I played the demos of AvP1 and REALLY didn't like the controls
Fire Storm
Sunday, January 20, 2002 11:36:25 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Imzadi> <<AOL owns a product that they refuse to improve (think ICQ)>>: But when did they release AIM compared to the purchase? If it was before, then it's not really a precedent for their plans with Red Hat.
<<even the statue of liberty needs a shave>>: I believe the sculptor based it off his mother.
<<That's either the beginning of a porn or a party. Or both>>: Orgy orgy orgy...
<<Schizophrenia is genetic. Project finished>>: It's more which genetic markers have a strong correlation to schizophrenia.
<<Maybe its a lie for YOU>>: We were talking about my resume, weren't we?
<<If I can get Mara, the rest will come>>: So you get Mara, you get Aaron. Then Robby comes with Aaron. But who follows Robby. And he hasn't posted in a good while.
<<Wait, you mean female into male?>>: You didn't get it when I said strapon?
<<How many points for the reverse?>>: I think it was half.
<<True, but that shouldn't be extended to all college students>>: I never said it should. Just said that MIT was not so special in that respect.
<<My parents don't call about any of that>>: Good for you. At least mine don't really call about underwear.

Spacebabie> <<Josh took that. He said the class was full of jokes>>: I was under the impression that straight dynamics was more fun filled than fluids. But you do get viscosity and heads.
<<Are you going to get Slayers Try DVD?>>: Probably eventually. Just not for a while.
<<Click on my name and you will see somthing funny...WARNING its PG-13>>: For the gonads or strife?

For the new mp3, you'll have to go to my eden account. I'm transferring a bunch of files to my own computer. The official mp3 is Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum by Dylan. I'm quite the fan of Carroll.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, January 20, 2002 11:33:16 PM
IP: 68.39.9.155

Damn it, I broke my key to the house on the front door. Good thing the back door was unlocked. **Note to self: must replace keys with fingerprint scanners sooner or later.**

Imzadi - <In other news, AOL is trying to buy Red Hat.> I hope this does not happen. Why? If it does go through, Microshaft can argue that the market is correcting itself.

My church is going to pay me next week for unlocking. $23/week times 4 weeks. Heck, that will cover my electric bill, telephone bill, internet bill, and maybe the water bill.

Green Baron - <An infantry grunt in the US Army coudl give me crap about not being as hardcore, but I can no pay due his ass and he has to sell his wife (who will dump him for an Airforce guy or a Finance soldier) into prostitution since he won't get any more than $50.00 a month for the next three years.> I imagine the same thing holds for network administrators.

I'll save Babylon 5: Legend of the Rangers Spoilers for tomorrow.
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, January 20, 2002 09:05:12 PM
IP: 204.94.193.38

Wow* In regards to that killer dream about LOTR!!! I think it would totally rock to be put into that type of world...well, except I'd be scared witless. *Smiles* Life in college is one giant soap opera, I swear it. A likes B who likes C who likes D, who's dating F, who's waiting for a missionary in Alaska! It's like holy flippin' cow! Anyways, I had fun today, other than the fact I'm critically in pain from pulling something in my shoulder* Waves hi to Archwolf* Smiles* Well, that's all from the Compound of my Delirium!
Luminous Aphrodite
Sunday, January 20, 2002 08:57:33 PM
IP: 63.165.157.39

Tim P> Unless Jaden wants a challenge, I forfeit to you. I am an ARMy admin. MOS 73C Finance Specialist. You being a Marine could beat me up and get away with it. An infantry grunt in the US Army coudl give me crap about not being as hardcore, but I can no pay due his ass and he has to sell his wife (who will dump him for an Airforce guy or a Finance soldier) into prostitution since he won't get any more than $50.00 a month for the next three years.

So I gladly yield to you, Mr. Combat Engineer Weekend Warrior. But let's see you royally f*ck up someone's pay and just get a warning for it :)
Green Baron
Hanau
Sunday, January 20, 2002 07:09:08 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

Well this weekend was sort of a mess. My grandfather was taken to the hospital by ambulance disorientated and with a very low blood pressure. Doctors thought since he had cancer his immune system was directing alot of blood to fight it. He was almost always unconcious, received two units of blood and at one point needed to be recusitated. Doctors thought that he was amout to have a heart attack or another stroke. We were afraid that he was going to die.

Then suddenly around 9:00 pm, he was back on his feet and about. The Doctors are not yet sure what's going on.

Skippy The Klingon: Re: <<Strange Dreams>> Last weird one I recall I was an orangutang that was hiding from Steve Martin in his appartment (only it was Steve Martin as his "Wild and Crazy Guy" charcter from Saturday Night Live)>> Wanting to hide from Steve Martin is perfectly understandable.

I leave tommorrow afternoon for the Marines. I'll try to post later. Don't forget to come along to say good bye (or good riddence). :)

Hey Green Baron, maybe we'll met at a Gathering someday and have a friendly little boxing match to see which branch is the best ; )

Semper Fi
Tim Phipps
Sunday, January 20, 2002 06:14:36 PM
IP: 206.72.25.91

...
Tim Phipps
Sunday, January 20, 2002 05:44:34 PM
IP: 206.72.25.91

Spacebabie> Strange Dreams>> Last weird one I recall I was an orangutang that was hiding from Steve Martin in his appartment (only it was Steve Martin as his "Wild and Crazy Guy" charcter from Saturday Night Live)
Skippy The Klingon
Sunday, January 20, 2002 03:41:18 PM
IP: 209.245.243.60

Okay I had a strange dream last night.

My dream:
I was in this store that sold fantasy and scif stuff as well as snack food and I was there for the grand opening. There were celebritys as well: Sam Neil, Ryan stiles, Deidric Bader, and sean Astin((Samwise)). So I was buying some stuff when somone yelled.
"He disappeard," The owner wanted to know what happened and the person said there friend disapeard as soon as they left the store. About a few minutes later a woman disapeard, then Sam Neil, and soon we figured out the pattern. Every other person just disapears. So we were trapped. So I suggested that I lead everyone out and I'll take the bullit, only about seven people agreed with me. So I lead them and sure enough I was consumed in a ball of light. When the light was gone I was in a different place. My clothes were different, except I still had my class ring and my WWJD cross. The first place I noticed had sign that read"The prancing pony" At that point I went "Aw shhhh-----"
Well I bumped into the first guy who disapeard and so we put up small sings that asked if they were at the store and disapeard. So a large group of us was fromed including Stiles and Bader as Hobbits and Stiles was taking it hard since he is normally very tall. I was like "Oh you two are so adorable" Bader:"Awwww" Stiles"Leave me alone." The last person who enterd was the owner who came as a dwarf. So we headed to Rivendell to figure this out(Between all of us we had all these Luxry items: My jewlery, keychains,make up, pepper srpay, sunglasses, bandana, credit card, pocket knife, pen light, flashlight lighter..etc)) And as were nearing the domain of the elves these nasty things started to chase us So I did the first thing that came to my mind: I shouted "Water Dragon!"((A Rayearth attack) and to my surprise it worked.
Then my alarm went off.
End Dream.

Mom made a delish breakfast.
toast with blackberry preserves, fried eggs and those breakfast sausages that was flavored with brown sugar and honey.

Reply time.
Lain<<<hello? reality check? since when is afganistan a place you would wear JUNGLE cammo?? o.O>>>Right they should be wearing beig,tan and gold and wear a bunch of towels on their heads.

Niahmgold>>>Sorry about your dog

Green Baron<<>> I�m not but I do love em Margaritas, daiquiri�s,wine,Smirnoff ice, and hard lemonaids

Xellos<<<SPOOOOOOOOOOKY. >>> Meow?

Rev Attilla>>> Hey we want you to be that wild Disco dancing Kitty!

Shadow Rider<<<Ok, must return to my *beloved* Dynamics of Fluids...see everyone!>>> Josh took that. He said the class was full of jokes.

Mara>>>There you are you crazy gal J

DPH<<<Ok, what's up with the early room wipe?>>> The Room just got a package of Charmin.

Revel>>>Wich �Bitch� song? There are many.

Gside>>>Are you going to get Slayers Try DVD?

Click on my name and you will see somthing funny...WARNING its PG-13.
Spacebabie
Orlando, Florida
Sunday, January 20, 2002 01:03:32 PM
IP: 67.24.18.208

Well, today was a slow day. I got my hard drive back from my friend, filled to the brim with, uh...files. I've sat around most of the day going through the Vermont Recipes, very slowly. I'm just not cut out for this OOP thing. But I'm gonna follow the examples and read everything I can get my hands on, so I can finally discuss programming for Mac OS X and sound intelligent. I'm tired of being left out of the loop in this stuff.

I'm still sending my resume out left and right. If anyone knows anyone in civil engineering and would be willing subject their acquaintances to me, let me know.

Everyone's moving back into the building, we're getting ready for classes on Tuesday.

In other news, AOL is trying to buy Red Hat. This is both scares me and makes me happy. If this works, AOL will give Microsoft a run for its money. But then there will be an AOLOS, and that scares me too. If it doesn't work, then AOL owns a product that they refuse to improve (think ICQ) and Microsoft gets even stronger because a competitor has been removed from the OS field.

Not that linux will ever die, there are far too many losers around to use it.

replies

Silvadel: <<If it were done right I would have been ranked 2 and probably would have gotten into MIT>>: I ranked #2 and I didn't get in to MIT...bastards.

Ghost of Reverend Attila: <<throws it off and is completely naked>>: I don't think we needed that image. <>: If not, I'm sure she feels sick. <<Don't fret. You're next>>: Must you. << had higher marks in treachery, Machiavellian ethics, and cuddly brands of evil doing>>: That I don't believe. E-mail me the transcripts. <<Sounds liek somebody is watching too many episodes of The Simpsons>>: I rarely watch that show. <>: That's all it takes? I have to hear Jamiroquai. <<it has to some sort of sinkhole of pinkoism effect>>: Yeah, but its the top engineering school in the country. <<The two greatest French leaders were Napoleon (a Corsican) and Charlemagne (a German). That should say something about the French right there>>: Dude, even the statue of liberty needs a shave. <>: Ugh. <<I'm cuter and I have better taste than Tori Spelling>>: Wait, you're cuter than tori spelling or you're cuter than the ghost in Scary Movie? <<where Cagney distratcs Broadway so I can make passes at Angela>>: I don't think Cagney holds the same power of Broadway that Angela does. <<Don't worry you get some kitty loving, too>>: I see you're sticking to the single chicks. Smooth move. <<Commies are fun to munch on>>: LOL, you really are Green Baron's cat. <<They Might be Giants? Never saw that>>: Its a music group. <<She makes me purr, but so does Jennifer Love Hewitt>>: Hell yeah! <<You soudn so sad. ::gives her soem kitty loving:: Feel better>>: Better watch it, SJ and I might get jealous. <>: Maybe you should refer to yourself as a dirty pussy... <<now that I'm a ghost, I'm no longer a eunech>>: Nothing like waiting for the afterlife to get laid. <<The doofus can't spell>>: I got that.

Shadowrider: <>: That's what we always say. Then five minutes becomes 10, and then 30... pretty soon its EXAM TIME! <>: Wow thanks! <>: I'm sure you'll study your rear end off. <<You sure?>>: I'm sure that I'm not telling you any more than that ;-) <<You noticed that too, isn't it?>>: All my artist friends are like that. Meanwhile, my programmer friends, who write buggy code, think that everything they make is the greatest thing since water. <>: About her being cute? Hell, I told her that a while ago, and she still came to visit me ;-) <<must return to my *beloved* Dynamics of Fluids>>: Do I sense sarcasm?

Shinigami: <<Mami's back in town>>: That's either the beginning of a porn or a party. Or both... <<my vacation of Sin and Decadence when Aaron was up here>>: Gee, I'm shocked that happened. <>: I'm not sure if that's scary or not. <<spent several hours reacquainting ourselves with old familiar surroundings and the pleasures of each other's company>>: Chika bow bow... <<where I lost my movie virginity by faking orgasm (for the first time I might add>>: First time losing your virginity or first time faking an orgasm? On second though, I don't want to know. I can't believe they still do that. That's such a pathetic initiation. Most virgins are *actual* virgins and have never had a real orgasm, so they have no way to fake one. <<Nati's got tons of cool friends>>: The important question is: are they hot? <<a drunken good time was had by all (on Hard Lemonade if you can believe it>>: That stuff has some amazing powers. <<Cats is cool>>: I've never walked out of a musical before...except Cats. <<Crystal macked herself a phone number (actually, a home phone, a work phone and a beeper number, all by the same guy>>: She must be hot. Hook me up! <<f*cked around with the waitress>>: f*cked around with the waitress or f*cked with the waitress? <<Robin and Jess stranded us to go have sex in his car>>: That happened to me once. I was *pissed*. <<now anyone who looks at the outside of the men's bathroom door at the Unicorn Caf� in Staten Island will know of our undying love>>: But do they know your phone number for a good time? <>: LOL! That's a great story for the grandkids. <>: I'm guessing you didn't wake up with it. <<commentary on really low grade porn and then watched Contact, the porn was better>>: Whoa. That's some good porn. <<We had sex in the shower>>: Congrats. Wish you many more. <>: It is great fun, I'll admit that much. <<we bought porn>>: Ack!? You *paid* for porn!?

DPH: <>: Good plan. <<what's up with the early room wipe?>>: Seriously. I can't be expected to make top 10 if its clear while I'm asleep ;-)

David G: <>: I'm jealous!!!

Lain: <<okay, so it was only 10$ but.. thats STILL a 150% return on my investment>>: Now just do it a few thousand more times.

Revel: <<with some black hair dye and some work on a costume I could make a good impersination of Aragon>>: So true. I'll look forward to seeing that at G2k2.

Sarge: <<I'm 18 and my parents control me! I so can not wait for college>>: I hear you. Good luck.

Gunjack: <<my new year's resolution is to pirate every game released in the last five years>>: Good luck with that. Where are you going for them?

Gside: <<Blew a big wad of cash today>>: I love doing that. <<I'll be working on a project to relate genetics and schizos next semester>>>: Schizophrenia is genetic. Project finished. <<Yeah, better. "Very flexible." Well, that's a complete lie, but whatever>>: Maybe its a lie for YOU ;-) <<At last count, Jersy had cheaper gas than New Hampshire>>: That's still cheaper than LA. <<But it's not burning, and Attila used to be male>>: We can't get everything. <<No way you'll get all of the Texas contingent.>>: If I can get Mara, the rest will come ;-) <<allegedly it's a bit more difficult to hit>>: That would depend on the individual female's construction. <<Had a quiz assigning point for the variety of acts in which you had participated. Gave a large nu mber of points for female->male anal>>: Wait, you mean female into male? OUCH. How many points for the reverse? <>: I picked up a bunch of animated stuff today, actually. This is what I get for giving my hard drive to a friend who used to own a porn server. <<all colleges are essentially leftist>>: True, but that shouldn't be extended to all college students. Most of us are smart enough to form our own opinions. <<And the phonecalls to check about research, internships, financial aid status, clean underwear>>: My parents don't call about any of that. I suppose I'm lucky.

Fire Storm: <<Testing...Testing...>>: Testes...one, two...check, they're both there!

Okay, I'm really tired. Which I shouldn't be.

There�s no excuse for this kind of erratic retardism.
- Adam Carolla, �Loveline�

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, January 20, 2002 04:57:34 AM
IP: 64.173.20.127

Testing...
Testing...
Fire Storm
Sunday, January 20, 2002 04:30:25 AM
IP: 216.254.103.103

HEY!

Sarge Abernathy<<TO BE CONTINUED (probably not)
********end story*********
I'll continue that if anyone wants me too. I just wrote it because I had a writing attack>>

keep on writing those! i find them enjoyable, LOL. writing attacks are cool!

not much to tell, but i'm still glad that my sanity is GONE!

*goes, and continues to be insane* isn't his fuuuuuuuun?!

TWEEDLEEE DEE DAAA LA LA TRAAAAALLAALAALALALALA

-={King Terrky Kath, The Efficeint Rock Star}=- - [Rock_star_x11@yahoo.com]
Kansas
Sunday, January 20, 2002 01:12:04 AM
IP: 63.252.222.7

Blew a big wad of cash today. Picked up Return of the Dark Knight, Princess Bride, Slayers, Slayers NEXT, Eva 0:3 (for Dance), and Ranma movie 2 (for m'boy). All DVDs where applicable.

Oh, and it looks like I'll be working on a project to relate genetics and schizos next semester.

Niamhgold> In case you see this in time, it just snowed here, but the Turnpike should be cleared by morning.

Imzadi> <<Looking to fill a variety of openings with your company>>: Yeah, better. "Very flexible." Well, that's a complete lie, but whatever.
<<Cheaper gas, no taxes, the list goes o>>: At last count, Jersy had cheaper gas than New Hampshire.
<<There's your necrobestiality, gside>>: But it's not burning, and Attila used to be male.
<<My goal is to get the entire fandom out here>>: No way you'll get all of the Texas contingent.
<<I'm pretty sure the G spot is accesible from another angle>>: But allegedly it's a bit more difficult to hit.
<<Ugh. No thanks>>: My feelings exactly. Wouldn't have occured to me if I hadn't picked up a copy of the Douglas paper (raging lesbians, all) last semester. Had a quiz assigning point for the variety of acts in which you had participated. Gave a large nu mber of points for female->male anal.
<<Good. Go for it>>: You're the one who lives with him.
<<Me too. We should trade>>: Sorry, I don't keep much, and what I have is animated.

Atilla> <<with Noam Chomsky there it has to some sort of sinkhole of pinkoism effect>>: Eh, all colleges are essentially leftist.

Revel> <<I'm not going to fall to my knees and feel that now I can die because there will never be a better movie ever>>: Even so, I'd want to wait for the other two before dying had I thought it overly amazing.

Sarge> <<I'm 18 and my parents control me! I so can not wait for college>>: Then they get you on vacations. And the phonecalls to check about research, internships, financial aid status, clean underwear...

Gunjack> <<my new year's resolution is to pirate every game released in the last five years>>: Go for DII sooner rather than later.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:58:19 AM
IP: 68.39.9.155

*Valentine waves from his position face-down on his desk*

AvP 2 is scary, I'm really, really tired. *yawns like a foghorn* FS, have you seen this game? If not, there's something wrong with you and you're different and strange

...In other news, Oni is cool, my roomie is a perv, and my new year's resolution is to pirate every game released in the last five years. Oni down, Tribes II partially done, and then we'll see about Max Payne. I might even be able to get my HD fixed...

*manages to sit up and wave for three seconds before sliding back under his desk*

gunjack "voodoo zombie" valentine
Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:15:40 AM
IP: 192.133.129.4

Oh I forgot to add...
Lain made a video for Demona that to the song "Bitch" The timing to the words and hits with scenes are perfect. As soon as she gets a place for peopel to download it I think everyone should check it out. Or better yet just ask about it.
Revel
Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:42:04 PM
IP: 129.120.236.209

Quick post. A good day. I went to a b-day party. I didn'te really get him anything though, so I'm thinking of making a picture of a dragon since he likes them so much. I feel very happy!.

IMZADI>>> I am too old for that. I'm 18 and my parents control me! I so can not wait for college . . . . . *twitches*
Sarge Abernathy
Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:11:26 PM
IP: 152.163.207.54

Wow, a Saturday night post, man am I cool or what (don't answer that)
That's okay, it's the end of the first week and I already have way too much to do than to worry about what people think. Then again, I never worried about what people think. If I was one of those kind of poeple I would be boring and would not be here, but I am, tough luck for y'all. ;)
Finally got around to a couple of things today. I updated my site so everyone can checkout the pictures online form the New Year's trip.
And I finally got around to seeing the Lord of the Rings today. Yes, everyone has already seen it. I thought it was good, I'm not going to fall to my knees and feel that now I can die because there will never be a better movie ever, but it was good, worth five bucks to see it once. The only thing I can say is after seeing it is that Lynati was right, with some black hair dye and some work on a costume I could make a good impersination of Aragon.

Lain- I thought it was funny to talk about mushrooms, I mean, who even gives it a second thought, I'd go buy some dinner with that ten bucks, get me off dorm food for a day or two.

Mara- you forgot to mention how Lyn rolled herself into a pretzel on the subway car and that I made you shoot your food across the table at the Chinese place.

A kon- this is always up in the air to me because it always happens after I get back home from school and I'm usually not in the mood to come back to Dallas so soon.

"I am a baaaad man."
-Memphis (Cage), Gone in 60 seconds-

Later
Revel - [<-------Check it out!!!]
d, tx
Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:05:57 PM
IP: 129.120.236.209

today was a much better day.. i won the lottery
YAY!

*grins*

okay, so it was only 10$ but.. thats STILL a 150% return on my investment...
;)

love,
lain
the Great White North
Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:20:48 PM
IP: 64.228.194.234

The Buffy season 1 collection DVD is here!

I have it!!!

Yea!!!!!
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Saturday, January 19, 2002 07:00:44 PM
IP: 216.99.247.232

Ok, I am starting to change my email address out. Probably the last place it will be changed is on my website, for obvious reasons. Changing over yahoo groups is also going to be low on my priority until I hear an email back from the absent group owner.

Imadi - Once before, the computer showed a book as available, but the person just renewed the check-out over the phone. In other words, the book was never checked into the library, but the computer thought it was. I don't blame the computer, just its software.

As far as I am concerned, books in a library fall in one of three categories: available for check-out, checked out by a person, or overdue for being returned. The software may not recognize the 3rd category, though.

Thanks for the information, Taleweaver. I have more questions, but I see the current plot is going to reveal the answers to me soon enough. Is there any place where I can get an episode guide to Babylon 5?

Ok, what's up with the early room wipe?
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, January 19, 2002 04:57:46 PM
IP: 204.94.193.54

Gunjack> Did you get my e-mail?
metaldemon
Saturday, January 19, 2002 03:54:04 PM
IP: 24.219.165.75

*wearing a black velvet ensemble, only her face, her bared neck and shoulders are visible against the black velvet background held up by her chibis.*

Today's the day....

*chorus of nearly synthesized perfection between her passable alto and her chibis' soprano*

... when dreaming ends.

*the background is dropped, and now it's obvious that her outfit is a tad daring. Plunging neckline and long black gloves. She holds a previously unnoticed bottle of the Creature in one hand and a long stemmed brandy glass in the other*

*in a husky tone* Mami's back in town.

Didja miss me? *smiles charmingly* I'm not sure I've remarked on the recently passed holiday season. Perhaps recovery time took a tad longer than indicated. C'est la vie.

*blinks as she catches sight of Reverend Attila out of the corner of her eye* Well, well. I knew you wouldn't be gone forever, finally shook off the Reaper I take it. *purrs* Missed you, my perverted kitty darling.

So let me tell you all the tale of my vacation of Sin and Decadence when Aaron was up here.

You've been warned.

Saturday- I dressed up in my best Catholic School girl uniform and took a car service to La Guardia to pick up my mate and co-admin (and co-conspirator along with the rest of the crew bidding for the 2003 Gathering in -big plug here- New York City!) Aaron from the airport. We caught up on old times in the cab on the ride to the Chelsea, and then spent several hours reacquainting ourselves with old familiar surroundings and the pleasures of each other's company. By the way, they remembered us well enough to make sure our new room surpassed the old in class and style. And cooking utensils. Later that evening we caught up with Lynati, Revel, Greg, Emambu ,and some of 'Nati's friends Anna, Ethan, the Cat and others whose names escape me at the moment. We went to see the Rocky Horror Picture Show, where I lost my movie virginity by faking orgasm (for the first time I might add) Then we tucked in for the night, all you need to know.

Sunday- We traveled out to the Staten Island ferry to meet up with previously said crew. Thence we departed with said crew to Chinatown, Aaron riding 'Nati for a good part of the way, and carrying yet another of Nati's friends within the subway. (Nati's got tons of cool friends). We had dinner and then some arcade fun before running back to the Chelsea since I had already made plans with my usual running crew. We part-ayed at the Chelsea with my gang (Pai voice."Mara and Aaron's gang") Robin, Jess, Cardi, Crystal, and Wendy. Wendy spanked Robin, and a drunken good time was had by all (on Hard Lemonade if you can believe it).

Monday- We walked to Chinatown from west 23rd with Robin, Jess, Crystal and Cardi , hung out in army surplus store, found and bought Boo (a miniature giant space hamster). I got my black Chinese style silk robe, which went to good use. We also frightened Robin by quoting some of his older songs and by making really bad puns. (IE Jess had put salt in Robin's hair and Aaron said. "Seasoned greetings, from Robin Radus") . We bought implements of destruction, a beautiful cobra-head sword cane, Shin-ni and Bo-ken in Chinatown. Then we tried to leave since we had had plans of joining Greg's New Year's bash. However, sadly, this was not to be, since on the way back to the Chelsea on 23rd, we had gotten waylaid at Broadway Lafayette and ended up walking through most of NYC. On the bright side, though it was a cold and arduous journey, Aaron found his beloved blueberry bagel with cream cheese and enjoyed it when we returned to our apartment. We made a long appearance at my friend Kym's new year's party after another long ass walk, and then had to leave because her father is a fucking prick and wouldn't let my mate sleep near me. There was however a cool glow stick show which Cardi and Crystal did, proving that my current running crew is cooler than most of my old friends are. Sad really. We returned home after more subway and long ass walking, to watch really late night TV, first the Queen Mum, then Rudy's farewell address and then Cats. Cats is cool.

Tuesday- didn't go out, We slept and watched the Whose Line Is It? marathon and Pecker and the gayest South Park episode ever. "Hey Big Gay Al, get off your big gay ass and come be our scoutmaster again."

Wednesday- We visited MSG and got Knicks tickets. Death and Aaron always get chocked up at SG and Death tried to manifest but was halted by Aaron's cute petite pieds. We ate pizza and then went to the Staten Island Mall with Robin, Jess, Wendy and Crystal, amazingly all fitting in Geraldine, Robin's tiny ass Taurus. We parted ways for a moment--- bad idea, never to happened again. Crystal macked herself a phone number (actually, a home phone, a work phone and a beeper number, all by the same guy) and then we went to a diner for dinner� f*cked around with the waitress and desecrated a cream container. Robin and Jess stranded us to go have sex in his car, which pissed Wendy off because we didn't want to get caught desecrating the cream container. Aaron was wonderful and committed vandalism� now anyone who looks at the outside of the men's bathroom door at the Unicorn Caf� in Staten Island will know of our undying love. Rob dropped off everyone, with me and Aaron last in the car. This is an odd experience for me, not being the last dropped off, but being the last dropped off with my mate and � what's his name again? Especially since we are unsure but suspicious that the two of them have somehow the karma attached to unknowingly sharing a car (Robin may have previously owned Charlotte). Scary stuff.

Thursday- we had dinner with my folks. And we had email for the first time in days.

Friday- We rush-ticketed-ed for Rocky Horror show, at five fifteen in the morning. It was a learning experience since it be one cold mo'fo and we had underdressed. One the bright side, we had ended up with the first two tickets. Yaye. Wendy and Jess meet up with us around eight or nine in the morning, Wendy departing home on the subway and Jess joining us briefly at the Chelsea to be picked up by Robin. They got at least a little personal time. We killed time until Greg, then Lynati and her crew visited us in our room, where a good time was had by all. We learned how to re-hang a sliding door. Heh. Then we parted ways with them to go have sushi with Nati and Greg at Monster Sushi. It ran a bit late and after getting a cab we reached the theater by the skin of our teeth. So we shared the Rocky Horror Show with 'Nati, Greg, Jess and Wendy. Jess sat across from us, by her lonesome and made faces at me while Aaron was most vocal and received Columbia's guitar pick, a yelling at from Frank and a dance with Riff Raff. I too received the attentions of the cast, one of the Phantoms asked us to do a line for him, which we bungled but made him happy nonetheless. Afterwards we met up with some of the cast, (this anecdote is one for Aaron to tell really) and then had pizza and then bundled 'Nati and Greg into the subway after being invited to a strip club. Family night, apparently.

Saturday- Management at the Chelsea must have thought Aaron was major pimpin' cheetah-print style since they kept seeing him coming in and out of the room with me and 'Nati. She hung out with us since early morning. I had an odd dream about Tim Curry and awake to find they had done Rocky lines back and forth whilst I slept. we hung out with 'Nati in the East Village, and ate at the Acme, where I learned that Lynchburg Lemonade with Jack Daniel's is nasty stuff. We then went to Knicks game, leaving 'Nati to hang out in our room for a few hours. They lost, but at least I got to distract a Celtic free-throw by clearly saying (not yelling) "penis". We returned hanged out some more with 'Nati before making sure she got home safely on the train. I went to bed in my geisha-like silk robe and that's all you need to know.

Sunday- We tried to travel out to the Woodbridge mall but it was closed because IT WAS SUNDAY, so instead we sleazed it up with Wendy, Jess and Robin IN A SLEAZY MOTEL. It was rainy and the fun thing was, Wendy and Robin went to get the room and were told immediately what the porn channel was. (Robin's dating Jess, not Wendy, so the management of THAT hotel also had the wrong idea) we ate, and did commentary on really low grade porn and then watched Contact, the porn was better. We again we dropped off last, and Robin and Aaron bespoke of how evil I seemed to be; exchanging notes while I braided Aaron's hair. I would braid Robin's hair.. if the bastid would just grow it out like I want him to. Later that night, we spooned romantically and planned many evil things, for the con bid to NYC, for this CR and for the fandom in general. Mwhaha.

Monday- It's Aaron's 22nd Birthday. We had sex in the shower. I highly recommend it. Later we toured Central Park and saw the outside of the MET, Cleopatra's needle, Belvedere Castle, the Boathouse where we had lunch and fed the sparrows living in the Boathouse (in the classy section no less) and saw much of the park in a vain attempt to find the Alice in Wonderland statue. The view of the frozen lake with the snow coming is an image that'll remain in our mind, I think. We sparred with the shin-ni in several areas while it snowed beautifully. Near dark we left and walked Fifth Ave passing Bergdoff-Goodmans, St Patrick's cathedral the Disney flag store (which still sucks, flag store or no) and the NBA store� We went to the comic book store near 42nd street where we bought porn. Then after a quick meal at McDonalds we went home to watch, RAW together, and got it onnnn�.

Tuesday, The last day. We got up fairly early to start cleaning up a teeny bit, (cleaning consists of throwing all the garbage in one corner of the room for housekeeping to deal with.Hell, they gotta earn that tip and they barely worked in there. Besides, they wouldn't change the sheets daily, so too bad for 'em.) We spent the morning in Chinatown and the East Village with 'Nati, before being picked up by Robin to go back to the airport. I mislead him into thinking Aaron's flight was earlier than it was, so we got there in good time. Aaron and I kissed "Later!" since it's never goodbye between him and I. After he disappeared into the terminal a really sappy love song came on the radio, "Change it." I told Robin. He did. Another really sappy sad sack love song, worse than the one before was on the next station. "Change it." I repeated brusquely. One the first lyric, I slapped the radio off and burst into tears for about three seconds before shaking it off. We picked up Jess and Wendy and hung out til late that night. I then returned to my house (my home was the Chelsea) for the first time since Thursday.

"The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and to be loved in return".

C'est fini,

Now back to work.

Shinigami- the Queen of Vice - [MCordova999@hotmail.com]
NYC, NY
Saturday, January 19, 2002 03:17:29 PM
IP: 172.173.183.167

Hi people! I'd be supposed to study right now, but I think a five minutes of break will do no harm...

Josh:> Took a look to your site. Well, I must admit the Skyray looks great!
<> I hate it too...anyway, I still have more than a week for preparation, so I am not in real frenzy...yet...
Thank you for the wishes.
<> You sure?
<<Don't mind her, she's just an artist with no self-esteem. >> You noticed that too, isn't it?

Niamhgold:> I am sorry to hear about your dog. My condolences. Losing a pet, especially when it's been part of the family for so long, can be very painful.
Ehm...I hope you wasn't offenced by what I said in my previous post. If you did, please accept my apology...was not my intention to offence you.

Winterwolf:> Thank you for the wish...I'm gonna need it.

Ok, must return to my *beloved* Dynamics of Fluids...see everyone!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Saturday, January 19, 2002 01:46:58 PM
IP: 213.213.20.247

TOP 10, #10

DPH
Saturday, January 19, 2002 01:35:00 PM
IP: 204.94.193.49

Reverend Attila comes in wearing a trenchcoat and suddenly appear sbefore Daphne. He throws it off and is completely naked, so he jumps onto Daphne and starts noozling her while giving her kitty kisses, while making suggestive motions with his tail.

Daphne> I hope you feel better now :)

Mooncat> Don't fret. You're next ::purrr::

Imzadi> <<What is Socks like?>> She's a major prick and I thoroughly enjoyed shooting her.

<<I'm sorry, I refuse to recognize that, no matter how many titles you put after your name.>> Catbert and I went to school together, but I had higher marks in treachery, Machiavellian ethics, and cuddly brands of evil doing.

<<I'd expect Jedi's to be commies...unless they're dark side jedis.>> You'd be surprised. Besides, I'm a capitalist and I lead them against the Red Sith. The Academic Cell is headed by Darth Chomsky, but Darth Lee heads the Berkely inner-cell of that group.

<<I'm sorry, but David Xanatos is not gay, and would never sleep with an employee anyway. Especially Owen. He's too smart for that.>> Sounds liek somebody is watching too many episodes of The Simpsons

Sapcebabie> Ghost nip. I snort that, then I start disco dancing :)

Traveler> You remember me, right?

Silvadel> Duh!! GB missed that second part of the post. I'll use my cat o'nine tails on him later.

You remind me of Starsinger a little. I miss her. She reported news of my death back in May. MIT may have been good for your training, but with Noam Chomsky there it has to some sort of sinkhole of pinkoism effect. Well, with Noam there the best thing to do is join ROTC and march bu his Office wearing a uniform, while praising American Imperialsm and how great Juan and Pedro are at working on your farm for a dollar a day as opposed to Union guys who do half the work for $10 an hour and make lewd comments to any woman that ges within eyesight of them :)

As for the ::spit:: French. The two greatest French leaders were Napoleon (a Corsican) and Charlemagne (a German). That should say something about the French right there :)

Spacebabies kitties> You look up to me? Good, I need some kitty loving after I'm through with Daphne and Mooncat :)

Lain> I won't eat your rat if you give me some Canuck loving Newfoundland style. I'm like that ghost in Sacry Movie II, only I'm cuter and I have better taste than Tori Spelling.

Chi Oujo> The best thing about Mardi Gras is going to New Orleans.
Plus the thought of people being hungover as tehy receive their ashes is mildly amusing.

How about a fic where Cagney distratcs Broadway so I can make passes at Angela :) Shinigami can tell you the joke behind that.

Niamhgold> Don't worry you get some kitty loving, too :) I saw your pics ::purrr::

Smurfs> Commies are fun to munch on :)

David G> They Might be Giants? Never saw that.

Imzadi> Yeah, I know what you mean about Portman. She makes me purr, but so does Jennifer Love Hewitt.

SOROW> You soudn so sad. ::gives her soem kitty loving:: Feel better :)

Ravyn> Yes, I am a naughty kitty, but you know you love it.

Wilek> <<Shall I arrange for one of my contacts to teach you the Embody Arcanos, so you can take physical form again?>> Nah!! I can still get with the ladies, plus now that I'm a ghost, I'm no longer a eunech.

<<Because public transportation is used by the public. If the word 'public' comes before the name of something, you know it's a pit of squalor. Public school, public bathrooms....>> Well, public schools are awful, but public transportattion is there to use and get around with.

Xellos-kun> Let Angela know I'm alive and ready to start pouncing on her lap :)

Lian> I think I'll go visit you and thwap that instructor with a really hard copy of Summa Theologica :)

Imzadi> not palte, but plate. The doofus can't spell.

And I'm number nine.

Ghost of Reverend Attila
Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:55:35 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

Top ten?
David G
Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:34:54 PM
IP: 64.48.223.4

7th!

Mooncat
>^,,^<
meow!
Mooncat
Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:45:14 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

** Niamhgold enters **

Sixth? Woot!
Niamhgold
Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:18:44 AM
IP: 208.197.116.192

Sarge -- When I was in High School many years ago, the math-science team members had the same problem -- there were three tiers... MST(the top 35 people) I forget the other 2 names but the middle group had like 150 people and the bottom group about 75. The grading system however made the top 10 GPAs split 2 6 and 2.. The math science team only got ranks 5 and 10 due to the higher competition for grades and much harder classes. Actually(I was 10th) the numbers we got HURT us with regards to getting into colleges... If it were done right I would have been ranked 2 and probably would have gotten into MIT rather than going to Lehigh U... What changes that would have had on my later life it is hard to tell... Only concession they made was that those AP courses in 12th grade counted as half a grade higher.
silvadel
Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:50:12 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Got Early in the mix this time -- 5thish =)
silvadel
Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:36:00 AM
IP: 208.59.247.8

wtf........... 4th

nukesgoboom
Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:32:28 AM
IP: 12.243.67.212

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NukesGoBoom
Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:31:59 AM
IP: 12.243.67.212

spike- THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!THANKYOU!

i was REALLY getting worried that i wouldnt be able to see her art again.

however, she doesnt have much garg stuff at all on her site.... WHY!!

ill have to email her and ask NICELY for her to put some of it up :)

thanks again for the link, i really appreciate it. :D:D:D:D
NukesGoBoom
Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:31:37 AM
IP: 12.243.67.212

Umm... Third?
cyberklaw - [cyberklaw@yahoo.com]
Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:20:51 AM
IP: 152.163.204.69

Second!
Shadowrider
Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:15:14 AM
IP: 213.255.22.209

FIRST!!!
Greg Bishansky
Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:09:56 AM
IP: 216.179.5.97