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I live... barely.
Do you know what's really fun? Working at a Golf Club, then having the People in Charge decide that _now_ is the best time to tear down the clubhouse, and rebuild it. Sure, the clubhouse looked like the set of a REALLY low-grade 70's porn video, but still... I've spent the last four weeks packing boxes in one building, then going over to the temporary office (which is in the workshed, no less. When you think of a place with yearly subscriptions of several thousand dollars, a tin shed doesn't exactly spring to mind for the office, does it?) and then UNpacking the boxes. And the temperature's hit 40C recently, so you can imagine how much fun that's been. Ah well, I'll survive. Plus I get free reign on the golf buggys, and the four-wheel motorcycles and all the other motorised fun stuff in the workshed. These things were obviously never told by their makers that no, they are NOT 4WDs. Every cloud has a silver lining... :)

Of course, I'm so far behind on everything, I'm not even going to to try to catch up. I'll just make random comments to annoy everybody. ;)

Jan> All the best for Anna and Zach. A friend of mine was born on her laundry floor because she didn't give her mother a chance to get to the hospital. Let's hope Zach doesn't get the same idea. :)

Naimhgold> Sorry about your dog. I understand how you feel, better than I want to. Pippi, who's been a part of our family for over 12 years, died two nights ago. I still feel sick every time I look at the empty back yard.

Ghost of Rev. Attila> *ghost pats* Welcome back.

Shingami> *reads 'Tale of the Trip'* Awwwwww. You know, next time Aaron visits, maybe you should handcuff him to something so he can't escape, then you won't have to say goodbye. ;)

Lain> Bummer about the roommate. >this is it. ive had it. no more.< *gives her a Jerry Springer style 'You go, girl!*

FS and Ravyn> Good luck with the wisdom teeth. I had all of mine out about five years ago. I lived on custard for three days, looked like a chipmuck with a face full of acorns for a week, then everything settled down and all was good.

Josh> Oh man, your recent troubles sound horrendous. I know there's nothing I can say that'll fix it, but for what it's worth, I'm sorry you were so betrayed. Don't blame yourself, okay? You were as responsible as you could be, and, short of a vasectomy, guys really only have the option of a condom when it comes to contraception. I'm a big believer in the theory that BOTH parties should take responsibility for contraception, especially since none of them are 100% effective. Don't let this destroy your relationship with your current girlfriend, but since it's freaked you out so much, maybe you should discuss the possibility of her going on the pill, or something, just so there's a lot less chance of another scare. Nothing's completely safe, but the statistics get a lot better when you're using more than one form of protection. Just do me a favour and don't judge all females on your ex-girlfriend's behaviour. We aren't ALL psychos, liars, or Generally Bitchy. Well, not most of the time, anyway. ;)

SOROW> Hope things improve for you.

The 'detainies' or 'prisoners of war' debate.
Okay, I'm confused here. Could somebody please clarify something for me?
Were these guys fighting for Al Qaeda or the Taliban? If it's the second one, how come these fighters aren't fighting for their country? They were fighting for the same Taliban who were the GOVERNING BODY at the time of their capture, or they were when they started fighting (after that, I get the impression they decided they were neck deep in brown stuff and couldn't give up now). Just because they wrapped their policies in religion doesn't change the fact they were the Guys in Charge. I'm just not sure how that can be seen as fighting for a cause, instead of a country. That would be like saying that an American soldier who's in Afghanistan because Dubya sent an order through the ranks for him to fight isn't actually fighting for his country, because he's doing it on his president's orders. From what I can understand, Bush said he'd take down anybody who supported terrorism, the Taliban fit that description, they gave the US a diplomatic version of the finger when they were asked to hand over Osama, declared war, and since they were Afghanistan's Government at the time, how can it be said that the guys fighting for them weren't fighting for their country?
Could somebody explain the terminology to me? I'm not going to bother over their status, I just want to know if it's been decided exactly WHAT these guys were fighting for. Are they terrorists, or part of the army of their nation's former government?
Also, what's been done _wrong_, exactly? The treatment of the whateverthehellthey'recalled in the compound? Should they be held and trialed somewhere else? (oh yeah, let's send them back to Afghanistan... _that'll_ really improve their conditions... put them in the hands of the people they've mistreated for a decade). Have they been in some way mistreated?
I don't want to add to the debate, I'd just like an explanation because I've been fighting my own war with boxes, packing tape and dust bunnies the size of cement trucks for two weeks and I have no idea what's going on in the actual world.

Okay, I've got to go now - I'm going to watch Lord of the Rings at La Premier, where you pay extra $$ but get luxury seats and all the popcorn and softdrink you can consume! So I'll be seeing it in style with seven of my favourite not-family people :) Yea!
Fleur - [<-- Can't remember if I've mentioned this, but I updated my homepage!!]
Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:42:43 AM
IP: 203.25.148.61

Jan: <At work today we had a real Jerry Springer Show episode...>
And to think at one time I wanted to be a cop!
GIVEN, it would have meant that I would have had better things about work to talk about. ;)

Gside: <Lady Mystic, of course. I'm sure Fire Storm would remain in the middle>
Damn straight! Ain't no man besides me gonna touch LM! :)
<Even better: Warhamster 4000>
We need more pics like that.
<Not cut it off, shred it up>
It slices! It dices! It's the No-Go-Anal 2001!
<But you do know how infrequently I update my eden account>
True, but it means that I occasionally catch some good stuff.
<Like the esophagus>
I wonder when she is gonna get him for that.
<Might as well drive ther in a Hummer for good measure.>
Na. An ice cream truck. They won't be expecting that!
<Oh, but it is. It changes genres every episode>
I kinda guessed that. I mean, from the differences in even ONE video, I guessed that the series is rather chaotic.
<and Excel herself frequently dies>
"You give love a bad name" kinda demonstrated it. You got episodes of that series on your computer?
<Divx, with Overlay Video Renderer and YUY2 Overly color mode>
I figured it would be Divx. Why is that codec so popular?
<Not sure about the audio, but I got sound when playing it in WMP.>
Same. Just no video.

Imzadi: <Yet they're still using them. ::boggle::>
Windows may suck, but it runs a lot and it is compatible with most systems out there. Few people are with Windows because they like it. It just works (most of the time) and the systems that run it are relatively cheap.
<By giving everyone chicken pox?>
Yes! DAMN IT! You figured out my plan! Now I must have you disposed of!
"HANS! FRANS! Dispose of him. And use the... TRIPLE PLY BAGS!"
<Quite. Unless you find lengthwise slices along your member to be painless>
Hmm... Quad damage!
<Its a gift.>
And what a lovely gift!
<Or, just punish the owners. Shave them like they shave their dogs>
Hmm... Yes. That will do. BUT only if we get to glue fake fur on the ones that don't have enough.
<Mix two parts zombie with one part sugar>
2 ripe BRAINS... 2 Bananas... 1 part ARRRRRGH!
<But wouldn't you rather lose it and have something to show later? Like a machine to run OS X?>
Na. Money is useful. The other isn't.
<LOL! You have much better quotes than I do.>
I thank Planet Quake.

Spacebabie: <Can we adopt you?>
Well, I don't know... Remember what happened to the parakeet you promised to take care of?

"The following movie contains scenes of terrorism and may be disturbing
to some viewers.
Viewer discresion is advised."
The USA Network intro to the movie "The Seige"

You don't have to command to conquer. -mortar
Fire Storm
Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:31:06 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Okay, Let's see where to begin.

My foot hurts. probably because I finished cleaning my room. My GOD! I have a CARPET!!! I found the thing in my heating vent that melted. I still can't figure out what it was. I know there was a crayon in there at one point! I have to wait until summer to turn the heat on adn melt it with the window open. That means no heat for the winter. . . . =P Of course our house is weird. We are heated by electricity upstairs, gas downstairs, and wood in the living room.

I found a bunch of stuff that I forgot I had. Like my mom's nail clipper, some letters from my ex-girl ( kept them because we're friends now), some photos of pen pals I lost contact with, money. . . . lots of it, some art work I forgotten, some school reports from four years ago. . . . it's like a treasure hunt!

TALIBAN>>> The one thing i don't understand is how Bush's famous speeches about how "this is war!" "make no mistake we are at war. . " "war on terrorism" . . . has NOTHING to do with the current debate about wether or not the people in Cuba are prisoners of war or or not. He SAYS they aren't, but he also said that this was war. *sigh* I've given up long ago trying to figure the government out. I still think they should be there, in Cuba that is. But what to DO with them is the question. In the meantime I don't know what is really going on down there. If they are torturing them then that's bad, if they are treated like any other prisoner then okay. Now that Cuba is filled where are they gonna put the others? If there ARE others. Will they send them to Guam since that was an original candidate?

SargeAbernathy
Saturday, January 26, 2002 09:54:54 PM
IP: 205.188.193.43

<a disembodied smarmy smile appears in the room>

Angel: **SPOILING WISHES** Personally, I'm hoping Holzt will get wind of a certain Slayer in prison partly thanks to Angel, and think the possible recruitment opportunity is too good to pass up. Anything to have her back, even just for one episode! :) If it doesn't happen, someone's got to write the fanfic!!! :) **SPOILING WISHES END**

Golden Globes: If you watched more of Alias, SJ, you'd probably agree with me that Jennifer Garner deserves the award. She's been doing a fantastic job on that show and not just in the nice outfits they stick her in. Of course she is about to face a test every young star should dread having to take (can she match wits with Quentin Tarentino?) so she could fail that and I could be totally utterly wrong. <shrugs> We'll see.
<LOTR snub> Igor from Dork Tower reflected that people in Internet chatgroups who dis the LOTR movie because it didn't follow the book exactly, cut out Tom Bombadil, etc. are "one exit shy of Mordor." Judging by what I've read about critics and the Golden Globe judges in particular in relation to LOTR, the first Mordor exit probably goes to their digs. :)
<Rich's Globe> Orcs may not be available to snatch that from him, but I may be able to get some even better creatures to do it. <smiles towards a certain group of nine black-robed wraiths on steam-snorting horses who are silently waiting for the post to finish> We're still in negotiations as far as what's in it for them.
<Sissy Spacek opinion> You make me sick!!!
<Ben Affleck as Daredevil> As long as they don't cast Matt Damon as Bullseye or Foggy...

DPH: We used to be pals with Cuba back before Castro took over. The base was built back then on land we leased from the Cuban government of the time. Nowadays we are big superpower nation and Cuba is little not-that-powerful Communist relic nation. We can hold on to that base and there's not much they can do about it. Except refuse to accept all the lease checks we still pay, but that hasn't done anything to make us give up Gitmo yet.

Lady Mystic: Keep up the good work. Suggestion- Put those links at the top of the CR at the bottom too. That way one won't have to scroll back up when one needs to catch up on several weeks' worth of posts.

Christine: Another way to get Silversilk- order it thru a local Borders so you can use the gift card your Dad got you for Christmas. Just got my copy of it two days ago. Did you know this book is more than twice the size of any of your previous three? <glee>

Mooncat: Saw Brotherhood of the Wolf four nights ago. It was fantastic, if a little sleepy at times (maybe that was just cause I saw it late at night). No real Matrixy action in it, although some scenes do get pretty close. Glad I'm not the room's only Piffany fan! :)

Josh: Congrats on the good news from your girlfriend. Hell, congrats on having a girlfriend. I know you've wanted one a very long time. <jk>

Sarge: <BTW I love this Elisa Picture> That makes two of us.

Stephen: Alright! Hooray for you! Congratulations!! :)

Mara: <reads "The Trip in Review" post, grinning at all the mentions of sex and cursing as well as life details and promises of undying love> Sounds like you had a great trip, congratulations. But be careful. In small part because of posts like that, I am what I am now. <eerie maniacal laugh> <shower-related recommendation> You and I agree on something. Wow...

Must go watch Dr. No on ABC now. Later everyone!
<the smile fades away>
The Grinning Lurker
Saturday, January 26, 2002 08:12:00 PM
IP: 67.25.132.136

***** TGS CR INFO UPDATES/ANNOUNCEMENTS *****

The CR archive has been updated to include the week of January 12th-19th in the 2002 database.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/2002/

A new section, 'Concerns/Requests,' was added to CR Information to include the request guidelines I posted from last week. Please follow them when requesting or concerned with CR features.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/requests.html (formerly the URL for Archived Requests)

Pic Request Guidelines and the Archive of Pic Requests were revised and placed in the new section. Since I couldn't find the requested image, Daphne's pic request (thanks for following the instructions Daphne! :) ) was added to the list of unfulfilled requests. Daphne, your request was paraphrased. If you dislike how it was worded, please let me know at lady-mystic@usa.net.

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Navigation on every page within CR Information was revised to accommodate the new section.

No new polls for CR features are open but I did update the FAQ to a guidelines page in anticipation of future use.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/polls/guidelines.html

I AM NOW ACCEPTING CR MEMBER PROFILE SUBMISSIONS!

Yep, that's right! Before submitting your profile entry, please read and follow the guidelines page and the directions stated within the submission form. And please understand, due to various factors, everyone isn't eligible for this service. If you are turned down now, you may be eligible at a later time. (Thanks Siryn and Chris Rogers for all of your help! :) )

The submission form was also updated. A few new categories were added and some directions were simplified. You can access the page after reading the guidelines.

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Updates were made to the profiles and calendar sections. Sample profiles were moved to their own directory and graphical monthly calendars were updated to match the date placement of the year 2002. The text only events list was omitted and replaced with more appealing text based monthly calendars.

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And last but not least, a new entry documenting the opening of our new CR Info feature, Member Profiles, was added to the CR Timeline.

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***** END TGS CR INFO UPDATES/ANNOUNCEMENTS *****
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Head Admin of TGS CR Information
Saturday, January 26, 2002 06:27:34 PM
IP: 216.254.103.103

Why are captured al Qaeda fighters not considered to be "prisoners of war"? Click my name to read a column that I found to explain the reasons pretty well when I read it the other day.

The better question to ask, IMO, is why we're spending all this money to transport these terrorists halfway around the world for a tropical island vacation instead of just stringing up a nice electric fence around an acre or so of dry, barren Afghani desert.
Patrick Toman
Saturday, January 26, 2002 04:32:02 PM
IP: 66.72.195.246

Jan> Congrats on being a grandmother. My mom went nuts over my nephew (my sister's kid). Now he's one and half and is spoiled all to hell cuz of my mom....doh, I spoil him, too. 8D
metaldemon
denton
Saturday, January 26, 2002 04:27:25 PM
IP: 24.219.165.75

DPH> <<organized crime is in a war with the US government>> no, but you don't see us bombing the hell out of drug lords or their homeland. Same with the "war on crime" or any other catch phrase with the word war in it. Vietnam was technically not a "war" either - but we sure as hell had prisoners of war there!

lain> I read your posts several times and with your reputation, I am still correct in the assumption that I had about the tone of your post.

gunjack> ok.

Christine> heh, I hope that Anna is at least close to her due date when she delivers *nodnodnod* My mom is betting on Wednesday because a nasty storm is due to arrive then... snow, ice, sleet. I have a feeling that Zachy-boy is going to be a real comic and decide to arrive with great style and excitement... while Nana here has to get him and Anna to the hospital in bad weather conditions. *L* (the hospital is in another town, 20 miles away)

Naimgold> I finally saw a RL pic of you! wow, you are a very beautiful young lady!! :)

I must go and finish unpacking the baby things needed to set up the nursery... nothing like waiting until the last moments to get it done ;D
Jan
Saturday, January 26, 2002 03:41:23 PM
IP: 12.110.236.39

Jan - <you feeling ok, friend? *tilts head*> I have yet to claim to be sane. Let's see: I have had headaches for days in a row. No, I'm not alright. <*pumps fist in the air* Jerry! Jerry!> What a mess of a situation. <prisoners of war> Carefull with that term. If you wanted to stretch the definition out, organized crime is in a war with the US government, but aren't entitled to protections by the Geneva accords.

**CUBA**

This is confusing me. How can the US government have a base at Cuba if we aren't exactly on friendly terms with their government? I haven't had a history class in . . years.

**END CUBA**

Imzadi - <Why would you?> Ok, what about those people who got cancer from smoking and apply for government help to pay for the treatments? What about those people who got STDs (from everywhere else but blood transfusions and birth) and want the government to pay for their treatment? Heck, why is the government paying money for AIDS research when we already know how to prevent the disease?

Skippy - <Though what really struck me was the fact that Luthor needed an Intellegence Analyst spending hundreds of man-hours sifting through data (at the taxpayer's expense of corse) to tell him that when Clark Kent takes off his glasses he's Superman.> That was a waste of money. Simply running Superman's face through the DMV registration could have got the same result.

Spacebabie - <Use Mike Tyson.> Thankfully, I am in a better mood now. But, when I do find the person, I'm going to use my new method. I wonder if my new method would be enough to deter DC.

Two days ago, I made lots of waffles so I know what I am having for breakfast for a while.

I am sick of black-eyed peas.

DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, January 26, 2002 02:17:22 PM
IP: 204.94.193.24

Christine - saw Monte Cristo last night, and it was a straight forward film, no fancy F/X. Gorgeous costuming, well delivered lines. Action and plot are rather predictable, but its a fun story so you don't mind much. Love the priest, he's a show stealer, and the manservent (name escapes me) -- Great casting.

I have Brotherhood of the Wolf in raw french, but haven't watched it yet. Kind of want to see it subtitled if they ever release it locally. But I'm growing more and more tempted, as patience is not a virtue I have great amounts of. I did watch the beginning bit, just to see the type of film it is. Looks cool. You wonder a bit about the type of monster you are seeing, until you get a good close look. It looks niiiiiiiiice. I want to watch my copy really badly. sigh.

If you haven't already seen it, a nice little macabre (sp?) piece is Ginger Snaps. Canadian and on a shoe string budget it manages to be the best werewolf film I've seen. If it hadn't been in pre-production during the Columbine and other school shootings (some in Canada) I'm sure it would have been a big hit, instead of being buried because it involves blood and gore in a high school setting. Such a shame, it's got the look and feel of a classic.

kay
later
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Saturday, January 26, 2002 01:56:53 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Hi ya'll.

Pray for me, or if you're an athiest just think happy thoughts for me. I'm spending today cleaning up my apartment. I figure the girl I've started dating will eventually want to see where I live, and if I ever want her to see me again after that it had better not look like a pig sty.

I'm not naturally a slob, but I'm not particularly a neat-freak either, and my roommate's a little closer to the slob end of the scale than I am. It's not an auspicious combination.

I'm going to start with my bedroom and work my way out. If I don't post in a while please send someone to my place to excavate me from the mound of old comics and paperback books, OK? :)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:27:35 PM
IP: 64.48.223.46

** Niamhgold enters **

Wow, what a LONG week. I'm so glad I got to sleep in today, and it was the fist time I've ever seen my roommate get up before me. True, she was doing it so she could watch Saturday Morning Cartoons (I've converted yet another!), but it was still nice to see.

I survived my classes, dropped Thursday's class for my better Monday class, finished the skull, had my internship meeting, went to the doctor's for a long-needed checkup, made an appointment to lunch with my advisor about transferring to and helping with the new animation major, talked with Liz about upping the professional business sector of our school (we are working on starting a BUNCH of major changes around here, including, but not limited to, better publications for awareness Wall-Street-Journal style, more seminars on software, and more recruiters from ALL ends of the country and all sectors), started working on my taxes, took slides and called about developing them, and, of course, trying to schedule in fun like movies and friend-outings. ;)

All in all, I'm exhausted. Today I did laundry, now it's on to shopping and maybe the library. Woo, Enoch Pratt!

I'm also excited because we're going to additionally be adding SolidWorks to our 3d Studio Max class regimen, so I'll at least be exposed to a _little_ engineering stuff before I die ;)

Sorry to have subjected you all to that. Replies:

Terrky K: Goodness, I'm so sorry. I know it hurts to have had those been your last words...but there's no way you could have known, trust me. :: hugs ::

Spacebabie: I aim to be random ;) Of course, if you want to be in on the _real_ joke...when I say bananas, you say kumquats ;) Maybe that helps? <I�m still a virgin. I have been around the bases but I never slid home, so I�m not exactly pure or chaste> Have you taken the purity test? (www.thespark.com). In any case, good, smart thinking for you ;)

Winterwolf/Dreamie: :: huggles to both :: <It took me longer than it should have but my car is now properly licensed and registered in Washington> Yay! Darn DMVs ;) Even in NH, when NO ONE is in the office, I'm still made to wait two hours ;) Bow chicka bow...

Jan: <really sorry to hear about your dog =( It was devastating when I lost our oldest dog this summer. I still miss her> Thank you, very much. Yeah, he was a good old friend of the family. We'd had him pegged as immortal...well, lived longer than any dog I've seen, and went out gracefully with little or no disability, so I'm glad it was peaceful. <She has not �grown� as much as she should for this past week and the doctor said it could either be lack of fluid> It sounds like she'll be fine. I've seen pictures of my mom when she was 8 and a half months pregnant, and I swear, she looked like her normally thin self ;) Of course, she's the same women who said that childbirth is a cinch, so I don't know...

Mooncat: <It's just that if you want to miscarry/abort, there are so many other safer and less odd ways of doing it than by starvation.> Seriously. I mean, there are not only medical options that don't involve surgery, but, additionally, she's lucky she didn't fail to clot or something when she miscarried with the lack of those nutrients. <Or just don't have sex, or only oral sex, etc, until you are ready to have children> I doubt only being able to have oral sex is a bad thing, either ;)

Gside: <That happens in Connecticut for Jersey to NH trips> Ah...lemme guess, the Cross Country, Merrit, and Hutchinson Parkways? ;) Those things are rough. <You want to fill openings? Oh well> That's why he'd be my editor. Make sure I don't have ambiguities like that.

Sarge: <You're excited about this?> Of course...it's like me ;) <Boy I can't WAIT for college and learn a lot more about art than I do now> Depends which kind of art you want to learn. For things like painting, you really only learn "how to" by practice, and college simply provides you with the studio environment. You do learn in academic courses, but make sure your school offers top-of-the-line academics, with business and science and mathematics to boot! ;)

SJ: Hoorah, you're back :) <Wait till the Oscars come up, I will have lots more inner rage to spew forth> Not to mention the Freudian innuendos. <Polish them off with some Grey Goose> Forgive my ignorance...what's IN Grey Goose?0 <And if I got the Hivvie even using a bag, I�d be PISSED> LOL.

Da...Josh: That can't be good for your health. <But this other girl, I like her. And she trusted me> I highly doubt she'll put any blame on you whatsoever for this...she probably wouldn't have kept in contact with you if she did. <prof seems nice and funny, and at least today's lecture was interesting> That sounds promising...usually, if the first day's lecture is boring, that's when you know you'd better drop ;) <should laugh it off, but they want actually writing! A paper and 5 mini-essays on some of the lectures. And reading! This is like real work! Bastards> LOL. I know, what's up with all this work sh!t they've been giving us this semester? <Maybe he'll weed out some of your more foolish classmates> No, because the foolish classmates are so stupid that they won't remember to drop, or didn't hear what he said. In any case, we'll get slackers, who will make this class of 40 (and for a studio classroom, that's a lot) drag on and on and on ;) But I still look forward to having actual work, regimens, assignments! <No more three day weekend?> No, sorry. <Thank you both so much. It means a lot coming from an artist AND an aeronautics engineer. Two people who appreciate form AND function> No problem...I liked what I saw. But I'm just an artist...you need not thank me. No, but I bet I could fake it! ;) <Yeah, all those dot-commers in the bay can afford to pay high prices> Sadly, it seems that while most tech companies are going to rebound in the second quarter (Oregon, Dallas, Boston, DC), SF was listed as one of the only places that are going to struggle hard. <Except that last time I was home someone died too> My dog died, does that count? Maybe we're just both bad luck ;) <Does this position pay?> Very, very well. <Heh, heh> You know it ;) <That doesn't make me feel much better> I'm sorry, I really am. I didn't mean to sound that callous. I just didn't want to say anything that might have over-worked your already neurotic outlook. <There's nothing quite like starting your day with an email telling you that the girl who just got tested is NOT pregnant> Whoo! Congratulations...that's very good to hear. At least you can sleep now :) <If I had to work from 8 to 5 without eating...I'd flip> Back or cartwheel? <Next time, buy a mac. Have you ever heard me come into the CR with this problem? No.> Your logic is somewhat backwards there, as well. I have a PC and never have come into the CR with that problem, either. ;)

All right, I'm done for the day. Need food!
Adios

Niamhgold
Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:22:44 PM
IP: 206.41.204.144

spacebabie>> i had a bad dream, too.. and it was one of those ones thats so realistic, you dont know whether it was a dream or if it actually happened yesterday.
i dreamed i was closing at the end of work.. and my boss came in with the area supervisor (or something) and said theyd been watching me working that night from out on the bench in the mall and theyd decided to fire me. and they wouldnt say why.. :(
and since im thinking about needing to get ANOTHER job (this would make three..) because my first job.. my boss is only giving me two shifts (of four hours) a week.. at minimum wage, of course (which is 6.85$ up here) but... it isnt going very far... and my other naked job.. well.. i guess they havent gotten far enough along in the course to need to draw actual people so i havent been called in. that job pays SIGNIFICANTLY better.. cos of the naked.. but it, again, is only three or six hours a week. not enough.
<<Can we adopt you?>> *blinks, then starts sniffling* i wish.. <<We still have the room that we had built for Nana when she was a live, so you have a place to keep your stuff and Ishy.>> you tempt me.. VERY muchly.. if i cancelled my tuition cheque.. id have 2,000$ in my bank account to spend on getting there.. mind you, id need to apply for visas and work permits and endless other things, im sure. id probably be best to stay in canada, simply cos its easier, but thank you. maybe i could come visit someday? and.. my house is always open.. *hug* thanks.. again.. more..

josh>> <<You always say that, and you always go back.>> yeah yeah, i know its true.. but the point is, i havent gone back yet.. and its been a few days.. and ive never lasted that long before so.. maybe i have a chance of pulling it off. cheer for me, will ya, ya big cynic.. :P <<The President can declare war on boy bands if he'd like, then send in commandos and kill N'Sync.>> and oh, what a glorious day that would be... <<"mistreatment" is a relative thing. Two hundred years ago, no one would have considered it unreasonable to sell the prisoners into slavery. And that would be considered MERCIFUL.>> yeah yeah, i know. but the point is it ISNT two hundred years ago, and you signied papers which said how people were supposed to be treated. and some people think that, because they CANT BE called POWs, it means they can lower the standards, which is where people start getting suspicious of the us, which is where this whole hoopla started. <<You can always email files to me, ya know.>> yeah but, unlike loadsa-money-boy here, i have to use FREE email accounts, which have limits on how many MBs you can transfer.. and no good porn is gonna be less than a MB...

metaldemon>> *snuggles* and where have YOU been, wookie boy? and me? in bed by 11pm? you MUST be nuts...
yeah, my dads bein a jerkface. i still love the guy but.. this has GOT to stop.. thanks for your support.

gunjack>> <<Oopsie... sorry about that, Lain. That reply was mostly aimed at the article, not at you. Forgot to change the reference after I switched targets.>> yeah, you did, didnt you, bright spark? awww... its okay, i still love you. and now you know better for NEXT time we have a.. healthy disagreement.. like.. tomorrow, for example.. ;)

love
lain
the Great White North
Saturday, January 26, 2002 11:43:31 AM
IP: 64.228.197.69

I should write zombie porn just for you people ... :P

Jan > ah, my mistake; I'd misremembered you saying the baby was due more toward the beginning of the month. Still got a couple of days. Gonna be a big boy, that. I only missed my due date with Becca by 12 hours and 20 minutes.

Count of Monte Cristo > anyone who's seen this movie and/or Brotherhood of the Wolf, question for you -- is the action plausible, or is it the Crouching Matrix Hidden Musketeer thing? I want to see both flicks but am tired of being jarred out of the movie by people hanging in midair and slowmo acrobatics and whatnot.

Sabledrake deadline > one more week to send in stuff for the February issue! Looking in particular for game articles and adventures, and fiction, art, and reviews are always welcome!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:54:44 AM
IP: 64.24.214.62

Mom got my drugs yesterday WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Ugh Thursday sucked. I forgot my inhaler and I arrived on campus really early. So I decided to walk to the Student Union. They have a Wendys there and I got the spicey chicken value meal. As I rode home I was wheezing and when I finally got home I felt I was going to vomit and my hands were shaking, after inhaling on my asthma stuff and eating my meal I felt better.

Yesterday was all right. The dumb ass went tanning again and I cooked dinner. Its that sizzle n stir stuff. It was like Hamburger helper except The Helper never include a packet of spices to sprinkle on the meat as it sizzled. As it cooled I sprinkled on some mozzarella and placed a lid on it to trap the heat. When I went to serve myself the cheese looked more like strudel icing, it was delish.

I actually had one of THOSE dreams. You know the kind where your naked in school? Except I was in church and was wearing underwear, well no bra just panties.
Luckily for some reason they had the shirt shooters((The ones that killed Maude Flanders)) shoot out gown and sweater sets and I received one. Wich was Real good cause I was a ctually chilly in my dream.

DPH<<>>Use Mike Tyson.

Josh<<<There's nothing quite like starting your day with an email telling you that the girl who just got tested is NOT pregnant.>>> Good news for you <<<Today was a long day, as all my Thursday's are apt to be for the rest of the semester.>>>They are for me as well.<<<That should...suck.>>>It�s like having homework pancakes.<<<I'm looking forward to an engineering class that doesn't involve much actual math.>>> Isn�t that an oxymoron? <<<I'd have done exactly the same thing.>>>Wouldn�t that have made you an overachiever as well?<<>>Yes I didn�t get wet, but the poor thing�s mewing would have broken your heart.<<>>What the stealing or the lubes?<<<Do I get a treat?>>>Yes you get some Hershey treasures.<<<Ah of course. Well at 25, I wasn't expecting you to get a starter car.>>>Well since it would be my first car.

Jan>>>About Anna�s baby not being born yet. I�ts obvious he is a typical male. Doesn�t want to leave home.<<<... a group of people are attempting to sue the fast food industry for serving *fat* foods. >>>We need to sign petition to keep stupid people from breeding.<<<This ranks right up there with the stupidity and lack-of-accepting-responsibility-for-one's own-actions-tobacco lawsuits.>>>I think the only ones who should sue are those who received lung problems via second hand. Oh and Tell Anna I wish her good luck and hope she gets the place.

Winterwolf>>>Hey Wassup

Green Baron<<<Well, that's kind of graphic ;)>>>I need my puffer, even if its cheap Ekards brand version of Primateen mist.<<<I'm glad you're still a virgin. I'm the only one in my whole unit and the oldest one in Basic.>>>Well you are Catholic�j/k<<<Spacebabie is older than I am, but I guess he would eb a technical virgin >>> HE? Uh dud this is why you should write cr responses on MS works then copy and paste�or whatever the Mac users have.

Stephen zinged Firestorm.

Lain>>>Can we adopt you? I know we have had our differences but I think you would be better off here than with your dad. We still have the room that we had built for Nana when she was a live, so you have a place to keep your stuff and Ishy. I never had a rat, but I did own a hamster once. Had to move his cage to the kitchen cause he kept me up at night with his wheel.

Gside<<<Got distracted again (finally hooked the Game Cube to the common TV and had a Smash marathon), then there was an ugly crash shortly after I started my post>>> My brother loves that game.Once when he paused Princess peach was leaping in mid air and it was possible to see her underwear. Have tried to do something similar?

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:26:29 AM
IP: 67.24.18.175

###### SUPERMAN COMIC SPOILERS #######
(If anyone really cares)

I was in my comic shop the other day and flipped through the latest issue of the Adventures of Superman (#176 I think) and this issue had a major plot development...

Lex Luthor, who is now President of The United States finally discovered Superman's secret identity.

Though what really struck me was the fact that Luthor needed an Intellegence Analyst spending hundreds of man-hours sifting through data (at the taxpayer's expense of corse) to tell him that when Clark Kent takes off his glasses he's Superman.

Criminal genius my @$$....
Skippy The Klingon
Saturday, January 26, 2002 09:30:10 AM
IP: 209.245.243.69

Ah, lazy day. After the bitch that was Thursday, its nice to have a day off. Every week. I think I could get used to this.

And of course, Friday is my personal religious holiday (I worship myself), so I didn't do any work.

Saw The Count of Monte Christo. A very predictable movie, but still very entertaining. I've never seen such an amalgamation. It had something for everyone: drama, action, romance, and comedy. Mostly the first two. But it was fun to watch.

replies!

Warpmind: <<That's MS stability for ya, huh>>: This is the most commonly heard phrase (or its variants) among PC users. Yet they're still using them. ::boggle:: <<all you gotta do is visualize the thing (or, in this case, things) and act as a reporter?>>: Easier said than done. <<start viewing and transcribing the stuff that happens between my ears>> Here, let me try. "And then there was emptiness". How's that? <<if there's enough money for that, there's bound to be some for you, too>>: Sweet! You'll forigve me if I don't keep my hopes up. And I won't ask for too much, either. Probably about 10,000, because that's the max amount I can get without raising eyebrows at the IRS ;-) <<Which is why you won't see me standing next to'em in bad weather. At least, not without good insulation>>: LOL. <<A Good Slow Screw Up Against A Wall"? Considering the bartenders at the ground floor bar are all women in their early twenties, that could make for an interesting order>>: Try asking for a Tight Snatch sometime... <<So the lights were screwy while you did Hamlet, huh? More things between heaven and earth...>>: So true. Its amazing how that play is haunted.

Christine: <<It sounds to me like you've been responsible and dealing with it as well as can be expected>>: I'll agree with you on the second part, but I don't think I've been responsible. If I had, I wouldn't have been there. <<it's ZOMBIES!>>: Zombie porn? <<perfectly good ones to be had for free with just a little midnight digging?>>: Forget digging. Just borrow from someone who isn't using theirs.

Winterwolf: <<not me. I think you're thinking of SJ>>: SJ isn't dating a schoolgirl. Or anyone else, for that matter.

Green Baron: <>: Much appreciated. <<I'd only recommend it if you like gambling and can afford to lose every penny you invest>>: That's true for any form of investing though: if you can't afford to lose, don't play. <<It's guilt. Good old-fashioned guilt>>: I see. Thanks for the clarification. <<Maybe you should give little Josh a rest for now>>: Jake. His name is Jake. No, I didn't name him. <<I'd back you up on that>>: As would anyone else who is still waiting for their savior. <<It's jsut too bad they aren't 100% effective>>: They're close enough. <<that's kind of graphic>>: So true. <<So she'll just let you have a second wife to do the housework for her>>: "Every man needs a maid" - Robert Margolis, CEO of Cherokee Clothing. <<I've know read teh Doug and Kit controversy and the flame wars that nearly nuked the CR, along with SJ's bisexual girlfriend in Niagra falls>>: And aren't you so much better for it? <<my kids get Catholic homeschooling unless my wife works, too>>: Ack!! Every kid I know that was homeschooled turned out REALLY screwed up. I wouldn't send my kids anywhere but private school if I was living in LA, but then again I'm not planning on kids. <>: You say that like its a bad thing.

DPH: <>: What about between a woman and a woman? ;-) <>: Why would you?

Stephen: <>: You don't know what you can/can't afford until you do a TCO (total cost of ownership). For example, my tower is a cracked out mac, VERY expensive. I had no right spending as much money as I did on it. But if you consider that I plan for this machine to last me 4-6 years, it starts to look a bit more reasonable. Repairs won't cost me much, because mac hardware rarely breaks down unless you do something really stupid. And even if it does, I'm covered for the next 3 years. Maybe I'll need a $150 PCI card to connect to the latest peripheral in another year and a half or two, but all should be good. My brother's iMac that I bought him this past summer is supposed to last 5 years, and was about $1000. Between the warranties and all that stuff, it starts to become very reasonable. It's all about knowing your products.

Fire Storm: <<THAT is how I shall take over the world!>>: By giving everyone chicken pox? <<It does a body good!>>: Well Milk certainly doesn't, I am living proof. BEEFCAKE! <<Would it cause a lot of pain to someone trying anyway?>>: Quite. Unless you find lengthwise slices along your member to be painless... <>: And then some? <<Beats the living hell out of me.>>: Sounds familiar. <<You turn women into crack whores!>>: Its a gift. <<For when the speed of light just ain't good enough>>: Every day. <<put them out of our misery!>>: Or, just punish the owners. Shave them like they shave their dogs. <<a zombie cook book>>: Mix two parts zombie with one part sugar. <<money that I feel there is a good chance to loose anyway>>: But wouldn't you rather lose it and have something to show later? Like a machine to run OS X? <<he'll be warm for the rest of his life>>: LOL! You have much better quotes than I do.

Gunjack: <<Save accusations of abuse for real travesties, not nitpicking>>: Well said. <<would strip prisoners naked and leave them for days at a time in cells filled ankle deep with ice water>>: YUCK. That sucks. <<You don't read much military history, do ya?>>: Or he's just a naive sap. <<Irregulars are entitled, according to international law, to a bullet in the back of the head>>: What if I want mine in the front of the head? <<What is it good for? Absolutely nothinnothin SING IT AGAIN>>: LOL!

Jan: <<Zach will not be lacking for anything for the next several months *blushes* I did a bit overbuying>>: Few things are better than a grandmother that spoils you rotten. He'll love you for it, trust me. <>: LOL. <<we declared war on terrorist, they were captured because they are terrorist and yet they are not prisoners of war??>>: Not how it works. Despite the popular press, you can't declare war on drugs, or on terrorism, or on pop music. Only congress can declare war, and only on another nation. <<he said WAR. W.A.R>>: He also doesn't have that authority, despite being commander in chief. He can declare war on democrats, for all I care. But there will be no official declaration of war because congress doesn't have anyone to declare against. <<How are these terrorist not considered prisoners of war?>>: They should be. "Technically", they aren't prisoners of war. <<congrats on the good news from your girlfriend>>: Thanks! <<a group of people are attempting to sue the fast food industry for serving *fat* foods. This ranks right up there with the stupidity and lack-of-accepting-responsibility-for-one's own-actions-tobacco lawsuits>>: Personally, I agree. However, I also think that the tobacco industry should be forced to pay billions out the nose. Just not to smokers. Hell, they could bail our gov't out of debt. THAT'S what we should do with their money. Then keep taxing the hell out of cigarettes. Smoking won't be outlawed until I take over the planet. <<he's 33 and his girlfriend is barely 16... which also means that she was around 12 or 13 when they first "fell in love". *gags*>>: Oh, that's special. <>: Well worth it.

Lain: <<it all started last night. dad phoned up>>: Oh boy... <<this is it. ive had it. no more>>: You always say that, and you always go back. Even I'd told my parents off by the time I was 18. <>: The President can declare war on boy bands if he'd like, then send in commandos and kill N'Sync. But that doesn't make it a real war, and the people captured aren't POW's. <<because the us (and other western nations) are supposed to be on the "higher moral ground.>>: "mistreatment" is a relative thing. Two hundred years ago, no one would have considered it unreasonable to sell the prisoners into slavery. And that would be considered MERCIFUL. <<do i have to explain what i ACTUALLY said for a THIRD time?>>: Once is usually enough. <<you know i would cept.. you dont have file-transfer so>>: Actually, I do have an AIM client capable of file-transfer, I just don't use it unless its important. You can always email files to me, ya know.

Gside: <<finally hooked the Game Cube to the common TV and had a Smash marathon>>: How is that game? <<and a bonus>>: Cash bonus? <<Forget to ground yourself?>>: Been there, done that, fried the video card. <<Do you think any college student has a remotely normal sleep schedule>>: I think her point is that when she DOES finally crash, it isn't sound sleep. What she really needs is someone to tire her out. <<How about if I ask nicely?>>: Then I'll kick yer ass. <>: I think that's silly. You get out of bed in the morning and smell like sheets for the rest of the day. <<Screaming Orgasm>>: Two, please. <<The first thing done in just about every class here is ask who isn't registered and needs a number>>: Here, they say "you can petition to be let in" and then 100 kids fill out a form. That's for the EECS classes. <<I'm sure Fire Storm would remain in the middle>>: I pity him. <<When was the last time I let appropriateness stop me?>>: I don't know, I haven't even been here a year. <<Uh oh>>: yeah. <>: Or just get hornier. <<Warhamster 4000>>: LOL! <<Not cut it off, shred it up>>: Either way, its stuck there. <<My plan is proceding nicely>>: If slowly.

Alright, its time to sleep.

When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight.
-Ghost Host, Disneyland

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, January 26, 2002 04:26:33 AM
IP: 64.161.27.64

Right. Got distracted again (finally hooked the Game Cube to the common TV and had a Smash marathon), then there was an ugly crash shortly after I started my post. Eh.

Oh, and my eden account now holds Lain's latest work and a bonus.

Sarge> <>: Forget to ground yourself?

SOROW> <<I'm not sleeping so well>>: Do you think any college student has a remotely normal sleep schedule.

Imzadi> <<The probability is high that any college will use a different book, but low that it will actually be cheaper>>: It'll probably be close in price, and if so, it could beat it by a couple bucks.
<<Interesting way you've phrased that>>: Thank you.
<<You do?>>: Do I?
<<Argh fine I get it! Its a squirrel!>>: Very good.
<<Probably not. I'm usually peaceful, despite my belligerence>>: How about if I ask nicely?
<>: I shower nights myself.
<>: Probably helps that this is an honors (engineering) dorm.
<>: It's also mondays.
<<Forget that. There's a drink called Sex on the Beach>>: Screaming Orgasm.
<<I'm not gonna ask>>: You get it anyway: http://www.overclocked.org/OCmamepron.htm
<<What is that eastern European equivalent called?>>: Don't think it has an official name, but perhaps Engski. And I forgot the Indians. Pakistanlish?
<<We don't have those here, lucky dog>>: The first thing done in just about every class here is ask who isn't registered and needs a number.
<<With who?>>: Lady Mystic, of course. I'm sure Fire Storm would remain in the middle.
<<Didn't stop you from posting it>>: When was the last time I let appropriateness stop me?
<<I'm only overly sensitive to christians and virgins right now>>: Uh oh.
<>: I must work harder.

Fire Storm> <<Hmm... Warhammer! Large ones! And Hamsters!>>: Even better: Warhamster 4000.
<>: Ooh, thank you.
<<But do you really want it to cut it off inside of you>>: Not cut it off, shred it up.
<<Hey, I want my MP3>>: But you do know how infrequently I update my eden account.
<<And opens up new holes!>>: Like the esophagus.

Sarge> <>: I'd rather be Guildenstern.
<<The U.S. territory of Guam has a plebiscite>>: Did they plug the plebes?
<<In the 1900's they called them the ots>>: Spelled aughts.

Warpmind> <<Considering the bartenders at the ground floor bar are all women in their early twenties, that could make for an interesting order>>: Or, for the females who find a bar with a nice guy behind it, go for that with a Screaming Orgasm.

Green Baron> <>: My plan is proceding nicely.

Fire Storm> <<Not if I get there first with my hammers and hamsters>>: Might as well drive ther in a Hummer for good measure.

Gunjack> <<Whatcha doing under the poncho, Red?>>: Why don't you join me and find out?

Fire Storm> <>: Oh, but it is. It changes genres every episode, the ending theme is sung by a dog (who Excel tries to eat occaisonally), and Excel herself frequently dies. It was also mentioned in Megatokyo when Largo broke his arm the second time.
<<What was used to compress that video?>>: Divx, with Overlay Video Renderer and YUY2 Overly color mode. Not sure about the audio, but I got sound when playing it in WMP.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Saturday, January 26, 2002 03:54:33 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Gunjack: <Actually, I wasn't refering to the Taliban>
I know. The situations were alot different. I just like mentioning that alot.
<You don't read much military history, do ya?>
WWII or Vietnam era, I would agree with you.
NOW, on the other hand...

Gside: <Excel Saga>
I get the distinct feeling that it is one screwed up show.
<B17ch>
What was used to compress that video?
Fire Storm
Saturday, January 26, 2002 02:30:17 AM
IP: 64.109.143.22

Lain> <<you actually READ my post>> *squishes between arms in big hug* Yeppers. :)
Where, may I ask, have you been? You're never on-line anymore...well, possibly becuase I get on at ten at night and you might be in bed o.O
Sorry about your dad :( I know I used to lose my temper with my dad when he would call me a triator to the country or a coward or non-Guerrero (my last name, which means warrior in English) since I don't like any violence. That's when I would call him an ass-hole and hang-up 8D Believe me, I went through the exact same thing; maybe differant causes, but same relationship.
metaldemon
denton
Saturday, January 26, 2002 01:40:12 AM
IP: 24.219.165.75

Oopsie... sorry about that, Lain. That reply was mostly aimed at the article, not at you. Forgot to change the reference after I switched targets. :P

FS - Actually, I wasn't refering to the Taliban. The Gulag Chekists would strip prisoners naked and leave them for days at a time in cells filled ankle deep with ice water. There's a difference between doing it to holed-up enemy soldiers, and doing it to completely defenceless prisoners.
<<NO American soldier would have done that!>> You don't read much military history, do ya?

Jan - Gee, it's almost like old times again. Where'd I leave that Maalox? <<They are part of a terrorist group, we declared war on terrorist, they were captured because they are terrorist and yet they are not prisoners of war?>> ...Hoo boy. Okay, where to begin? A "Prisoner of War" isn't just someone who gets captured in a war. It's a special status reserved for members of a Nation's armed forces. It DOESN'T apply to spies, partisans, guerrilas, or other irregulars. Soldiers are entitled, according to the Geneva convention, to certian minimum standards of treatment. Irregulars are entitled, according to international law, to a bullet in the back of the head.
<<Did you not listen when President Bush declared WAR on any terrorist...>> ...which is an oxymoron according to international law. Terrorists aren't countries, and so you can't declare war on them. He cleared that up by adding the "and any nation that aids them" part, but it's still hyperbole until we decide to change international law.
<<he said WAR. W.A.R.>> What is it good for? Absolutely nothinnothin SING IT AGAIN!
...Sorry, couldn't resist.
<<How are these terrorist not considered prisoners of war?>> Bleeding heart liberals. pssshh. Look, Jan, why can't you just face the facts and accept that they're NOT prisoners of war? The Army says it, the President says it, but you gotta keep on quibbling! Next you'll be saying that Bush stole the election!
<> That's because she hadn't gotten past stating facts and quoting sources yet. <<I'm not the least bit suprised about your opinions, but I'm definitely confused.>> We love you too, dear.

*goes to hit the post button, and then sees that Lain and Metaldemon have already said much the same things*

...Uh, yeah. This message has been brought to you by the letter Z, and the number Drunk.
Gunjack "Pry Me Off The Wall" Valentine
Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:55:34 AM
IP: 192.133.129.4

metaldemon>> *blinks* you mean.. you actually READ my post? AND understood what i was trying to say? wow.. im impressed.. you can stay!! :D
lain
Friday, January 25, 2002 11:05:54 PM
IP: 64.228.197.46

aaaah what a wonderful day today has been.
it all started last night. dad phoned up, and its apparently back to the good ol days where he shouts at me and tells me what a horible daughter i am and picks out every psychological catch-phrase he can think of that might, in some insignificantly tiny aspect, possibly relate to me, and plasters me with them. gooooood stuuuff. he told me i had to get rid of my rat, because i wasnt coming home to visit him with a rat. he wanted to know why in the world i would get a rat in the first place, since theyre bitey, and smelly, and antisocial and.. i should have gotten a cat. i am obviously very irresponsible with my decision making.
well you know, dad? given my current financial situation, i dont think it would be very fair to get a cat if i wasnt capable of paying the vet for anything that might happen to it. plus the fact that i dont really LIKE cats, cos THEY are bitey and scratchy and antisocial.. at least all the ones *I*ve ever known. and.. ishy is the cutest pet in the world. he DOESNT bite.. (except for that one time he bit a christian who was trying to convert me..) and he ISNT stinky. he cleans himself like a cat. all the time. and hes currently being highly antisocial by curling up in my lap and falling asleep as i type.
so.. given the above.. how was i "irresponsible" again? pardon?
he doesnt call me for weeks. when he does, its for five minutes to ask me if i can mail him a video he wants to show his fiance, not because he wants to know how i am. and you know.. im not okay. but i cant tell him that, because he doesnt care. he SAYS he cares, but if ever i try to tell him something thats bothering me he says things like "well, you just have to get over it" (in a conversation we were having about my mother, yeah well, some of us havent pole-vaulted over her as quickly as others..) or just shrugs it off and then suddenly has to go.
then he says "its a two way street, you know.." indicating that i should be phoning him.. which i do a damn sight more than HE ever has, BTW, even if i know were not going to talk about anything.
so i pretend to be happy in school, i pretend to like my roommate. i pretend i am going to my classes, and im not worried sick at night when im trying to sleep around my two-year-old headache that never moves or goes away.. and he just sucks it up and pretends he doesnt know its not true.

and then he pulls this latest power trip. i got so angry, i could barely see. and i hung up on him.. while he was in mid-sentance. you might not think that is anything, but i have never done that without phoning back three seconds later to apologize profusely and beg forgiveness. i havent called back, and he hasnt called me.
as far as im concerned this time, its over. he has his life, and i have mine. i dont want anything to do with him. i am negociating with my brain what is the best way to drop the hell out of university and never look back on such a miserable excuse for an educational institution in my life.

this is it. ive had it. no more.

jan>> if youd read what i said, or listen to the news, youd see that i am absolutely correct in stating that the detainees in cuba are NOT prisoners of war. the US government HAS NOT and *CAN NOT* give them that designation under *international law* because *international law* requires that they needed to have been fighting for a NATION.. and last time i checked, "terrorism" is not a nation. i didnt make international law, so dont look at me like i did. go ask the people who WROTE the law, if you have a problem with it.
i dont even know if you CAN legally declare war on something that isnt a nation, no matter how much any leader says its a war. like "war on drugs." ill have to research that one, though, cos i dont know. but the us isnt at war with afganistan-the-nation (unless ive REALLY missed something), becuase theres a LOT of afgans who are helping them. really, all the us seems to be doing is choosing to back up one side in a civil war, and rounding up terrorism suspects in the process. which is reasonable, but im not sure if it counts as war..
and also.. you will note that i *DID NOT* say i thought the prisonners were being treated unfairly. there was question raised in the CR as to why people were complaining about the way they were treated, and i tried to explain their point of view and the information they had which might have led them to that conclusion. i clearly stated, in the last paragraph of my post on the subject, the intent of my post. go back and read it if you didnt catch it the first time. people will make whatever conclusions they will about the living conditions, thats not my concern. you think they are fair and reasonable, and many share that opinion. many other "bleeding hearts" might not share your opinion. i was just sharing facts.

gunjack>> you fell into the same trap. <<There's a reason for that; if the prisoner is blind, hobbled, and on his knees, he's in a very bad position to, say, have a go at grabbing a gaurd's rifle or sidearm.>> duh. <<To keep them from breathing dust stirred up by the transport chopper?>> hm.. i hadnt actually thought of that one.. thanks. that might be a perfectly good reason. <<As for the chain-link huts, I'd imagine tthey biult 'em that way so they could keep an eye on the prisoners.>> also duh, hence the name "camp x-ray.." <<why is it that people only ever complain when the *US* "mistreats" prisoners?>> because the us (and other western nations) are supposed to be on the "higher moral ground." and just cos the "bad guys" mistreat people doesnt give you the right to. in fact, it kinda gives you the obligation to do the opposite.. <<Compared to what these people did in Afghan prisons, they're in heaven.>> never said they werent.. but i doubt the taliban had much to do with the making of international laws governing the treatment of people captured in war. i doubt their signature appears anywhere, though the us' does, and is therefore required to uphold the standards of this "free western democratic society" it holds so dear. <<Save accusations of abuse for real travesties, not nitpicking.>> like i said to jannie, if/when i should discover "real travesties," you can be sure ill let you know. for now, i was just providing information from which you can (and obviously have) taken what you will.

green baron>> <<Their basic and spiritual needs are met. It's not a hotel but they are priosners, afterall.>> do i have to explain what i ACTUALLY said for a THIRD time? o.O
<<At least they aren't forced to do calisthenic exercises every morning. >> uuuugh..

josh>> <<Does that mean you can get a job now?>> sadly.. no, but im working on it anyways. <<Gee, maybe we intended it that way...>> to quote my response to gunjack: "duh".. isnt that what i was saying? o.O <<You have porn!? Sweet! We should trade ;-)>> yeah well, you know i would cept.. you dont have file-transfer so...

sarge>> <<Wear garlic and keep your computer in a circle of salt and candles.>> oh, i pretty much do that anyways.. << If your roomate makes a comment or asks something throw a mixture of olive oil and scented oil at her>> she likes martha stewart.. she might enjoy that too much..

stephen>> <<clear course ahead to start working towards becoming a REAL Manager!>> CONGRATS!!!! :D (now.. if only you could fix ME up with a job....
:P

anyway.. bed soon, i think
love,
lain "" iwakura
the Great White North
Friday, January 25, 2002 11:02:32 PM
IP: 64.228.197.46

I don't think Lain ever declared a position on the issue of possible mistreatment to prisoners. She stated the matter objectively and said she doesn't have an opinion yet. But she came under fire (or so it seems to me, I could be wrongly reading some posts) for presenting the facts objectively.
And I believe she follows the UN definition of war. Just cuz you declare war doesn't make it an acutal war (like the "war on the poor," "war on drugs," etc.); some conditions have to met to be an official war. Just like the US never had a Revolution--it was a Rebellion. For a Revolution to take place, there must be unjust poverty, mass starvation, repression, abuse of masses, etc. France had that (yes, Green Baron, France actually suffered really bad because of the Aristocrats :}), and they had a legitimate revolution. America had some (deprivation of rights), but not enough to actually be considered a Revolution.
So, there does lay a differance in actually having a War, and calling a man-hunt a war. I guess you could consider the essence of the "War on Terrorism" as the same with the "War on the Poor" that Reagan tried to carry out, or the "War on Drugs" that Bush (or is it Clinton?) tried to carry out.
Some thoughts. Like Lain, I have no position yet on the Taliban prisoners. I lean towards more of them not being abused since nothing truly serious is happening. If beating started to happen or starvation of prisoners, then yeah, I would call that mistreatment (as I would of the Gulag, China, or any other country); but I haven't heard of anything of that sort yet; so I lean more towards unabuse hapenning.
metaldemon
denton, tx
Friday, January 25, 2002 10:56:45 PM
IP: 24.219.166.91

Christine and GB> nope, no baby yet. He's actually not due until Jan 28th, but we're all hoping for an early arrival ;)
The sonagram today showed that he is doing fine and there is a low level of ambiotic fluid, but not dangerously low - so we're still waiting to hear back from the doctor concerning the possibility of him inducing labor on her. I'm beginning to have my doubts that he'll do this.
The big shocker was Zach's current weight... a just a hair under 8 pounds so far! I didn't think that he was going to be this big. The tech kept pointing out various areas of his body, but I saw nothing except blobs. I did manage to make out his profile at one point. *L*
We got out more clothes, sheets, blankets, etc this evening. We also put the cradle together. We unpacked everything that has been purchased up to this point... hehe, Zach will not be lacking for anything for the next several months *blushes* I did a bit overbuying ;)
I told Anna that if she did not give birth this weekend, she had to wait until next Saturday.. then his birthday will be 02-02-02. hehe

Lain> I haven't figured out just yet why you seem to think that these people are not prisoners. They are part of a terrorist group, we declared war on terrorist, they were captured because they are terrorist and yet they are not prisoners of war?? Did you not listen when President Bush declared WAR on any terrorist OR those who harbor or gave aid to known terrorist? He didn't say that we're just going to be pissed off at them - he said WAR. W.A.R.
I don't understand your reasoning. I'm not the least bit suprised about your opinions, but I'm definitely confused. How are these terrorist not considered prisoners of war? Also, what is so unbearable about their living conditions? They ARE prisoners - we will not be providing them with a condo suite in the Bahamas. They have the basics provided for them, including the items needed to practice their religious faith. After living in the caves for all these past months, I would think that their living conditions have vastly improved since arriving in Cuba.

Winterwolf> I still have my Texas tags as well as my Texas driver's license ;) They punched a hole in the license, but returned it back to me. I was suprised when they did!
I love it here in Missouri and I do feel as if it's "home".. but I am also extremely proud of my Texas heritage :) I have many "Texas" items in my home that I proudly display.

Stephen> many congrats on your promotion!! I know that you have worked many long and grueling hours - at least it's all paying off for you now :)

Josh> congrats on the good news from your girlfriend =)

ahhhh, it has finally reared it's ugly head... a group of people are attempting to sue the fast food industry for serving *fat* foods. This ranks right up there with the stupidity and lack-of-accepting-responsibility-for-one's own-actions-tobacco lawsuits.

At work today we had a real Jerry Springer Show episode....
Wife came in claiming that her suicide attempt last weekend wasn't really a suicide attempt, but that she was drugged by her husband who had just told her that he was leaving her for another woman (even though the hospital records said that she repeatedly commented she would "go home and finish the job" as soon as she was released) She accused her husband of child molesting because his supposedly new girlfriend was only 16. (Yesterday she filed an ex parte against him and stated that he was a truck driver and had a 16 year old female with him.) She also told the detective today that her husband had multiple ID's and social security numbers... she was basically spilling her guts and singing like a canary about him... *chuckles*
So, the husband comes to the office to sign the ex parte papers. He comes to my window and says, "I believe I have a de parte paper to sign." DE parte? *L* Yeah buddy, we're sending you back to Goonie-Goonie...
I'm to keep him there until the detective arrives, so I engage in a conversation with him concerning this divorce situation of his. I pretend as if I am not familiar with anything going on... he proceeds to tell me of how he fell in love with his girlfriend a couple of years ago and tried to leave his wife but she attempted suicide, so he told the gf that he couldn't do that to his wife and they had to break it off... but 2 years later, he couldn't deny it anymore and the feelings were still there and strong for this this gal. So, last weekend he told his wife yet again that he wanted a divorce and she once again attempted suicide - but he wasn't going to fall for it again. He went on to tell me how good he plans on treating his soon to be ex-wife by paying her bills, etc. Dave finally arrives and begins questioning his multiple identities and he gives some BS story about how he was adopted and that his different moms did the social security numbers, how his name has had 3 different last names,etc. yeahhriiight.
Then Dave asks about this young girl that he is supposedly traveling across the country with.. (he's a truck driver) He quickly informs Dave that she is his niece and is out in the car... Dave has her come in for some questioning - just to make sure everything is kosher. Long story even longer so to make it shorter... she says she is his niece but when asked what the family connection is, he would actually be her cousin. A phone call to mom in California reveals that this gal and the guy are planning on getting married and mom has allowed her daughter to leave with this guy because money is tight around their house. Mom becomes worried that Dave is going to have her arrested and thrown in jail for allowing her juvenile daughter to leave with a 33 year old man. Yeppers... the girl turned 16 a couple of months ago and this guy is 33! sicko-bastard. The guy is called back into the office and Dave tells him to take this juvenile home (to CA), get his divorce, and then if they want to get married and mom signs the approval, then fine and hunky dorey... but until then - he is in dangerous territory having her with him. Jail bait. They have to have mom's _written_ permission - not just verbal. The guy starts saying how he's not embarassed about their age difference - but yet he was quick to lie earlier and call her his niece... I kept thinking that some bald headed guy named Steve was going to show up and then chairs would start flying.. *pumps fist in the air* Jerry! Jerry!
To add to this scenerio... his wife is 51 years old... he's 33 and his girlfriend is barely 16... which also means that she was around 12 or 13 when they first "fell in love". *gags*

Anna has applied for an FmHA home loan and has found an adorable house to purchase. So now in addition to waiting for the arrival of Steven Zachary, we are waiting to see if she qualifies for the pre-eligibility :)

Spacebabie> would you mind contacting me via email? :)

DPH> you feeling ok, friend? *tilts head*

I want to go see the "Count of Monte Cristo" but it's only showing in Springfield - too far away right now with Anna being as close to delivery as she is.

Time to call it a night. I've been called in several nights this week for dress-outs and I'm tired.
Jan - [janmiller@mo-net.com]
Friday, January 25, 2002 10:18:31 PM
IP: 12.110.237.33

Gunjack: <being left naked in a room filled ankle-deep with frozen water for a day or two>
And that's after the revolt which ended in burning gas being poured into the basement they are in, right?
My GOD, I am STILL amazed at the balls those good Afgan soldiers had in doing that! NO American soldier would have done that!
Fire Storm
Friday, January 25, 2002 10:15:14 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

There such a thing as psychic allergies? Maybe it was someone I bit...

Lain><<The pictures show the prisoners, manacled hand and foot, kneeling before their guards, and wearing blacked-out goggles over their eyes and masks over their mouths and noses.">> Chaining a prisoner hand and foot, blindfolding them, and having them kneel are fairly standard operating procedure during prisoner transfer. There's a reason for that; if the prisoner is blind, hobbled, and on his knees, he's in a very bad position to, say, have a go at grabbing a gaurd's rifle or sidearm. I can't for the life of me imagine why they'd be wearing masks (to keep them from being identified? To keep them from breathing dust stirred up by the transport chopper?), but a particle mask hardly constitutes humiliation.
As for the chain-link huts, I'd imagine tthey biult 'em that way so they could keep an eye on the prisoners. when you can't hide, it's rather hard to make the preperations nescessary either for a suicide or escape attempt.

The comment about the scene being reminiscient of the Cold War is especially laughable. A little perspective, if ya please. In the Gulag, you spent your precious between-torture-session hours in a variaty of places, all of them uniformly horrific. In on Siberian facility, the prisoners lived in slit trenches in the ground. No fences, no wire, just gaurds to shoot you if you stepped out of your frozen hole.
Prisoners at camp Xray are not held in cubbies intentionally filled with carniverous insects. They are not forced to perform backbreaking labor while suffering systematic starvation. Yes, they're somewhat exposed to the elements. They're also being held in the FREAKIN' TROPICS! Somehow, I doubt we'll be losing any Taliban to exposure any time soon.

Prisoner mistreatment is being stuffed into a closet for weeks at a time. It's being tortured, starved, and robbed. It's being left naked in a room filled ankle-deep with frozen water for a day or two. It's rationing the prisoner's SUNLIGHT.
Two other points. One, this is a military prison, and military prisons are almost by definition more spartan than civilian facilies.Two, why is it that people only ever complain when the *US* "mistreats" prisoners? Compared to what these people did in Afghan prisons, they're in heaven.

In short, the "abuse" accusation is patently rediculous. This is a military context, and it's a generous one by any historical yardstick you could name. Save accusations of abuse for real travesties, not nitpicking.

TRIGUN!
Gunjack "Whatcha doing under the poncho, Red?" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Friday, January 25, 2002 09:46:03 PM
IP: 192.133.129.4

Imzadi: 
And THAT is how I shall take over the world!
<Gee, thanks, I think>
Confusion. It does a body good!
<how about just dentricles surrounding the opening? Then it would never get in>
Hmm... could work. Would it cause a lot of pain to someone trying anyway?
<Just one?>
Na. Like Queen, I want it all!
<Then why were you having sex with her?>
Beats the living hell out of me.
<My friend is the son of the guy who owns Cherokee, Inc. Started his own tech company that is still making money. Couldn't get a credit card, even with his dad as a co-signer, until he was 20>
Sounds too familiar.
<Now she's a crack whore>
You see? You turn women into crack whores!
<You'd better be careful, I'm gonna rule the world soon>
Not if I get there first with my hammers and hamsters!
<That's why warp drives were invented>
For when the speed of light just ain't good enough.

Warpmind: <Actually, not so many poodles... I figure looking like they do is punishment enough...>
Too true... put them out of our misery!
<Don't you know that to write decent action-based stories, all you gotta do is visualize the thing (or, in this case, things) and act as a reporter? Works just fine for me>
I know... but my action still sucks.
<(But I warn you: it is defined as extremely hazardous for anyone other than myself to start viewing and transcribing the stuff that happens between my ears.)>
Same. If only I could write the TRUE darkness between my ears...

Winterwolf: <Will any of the hamsters be named "Boo"?>
Nope. Not only do I not mess with giant space hammers, I think Largo needs him.

Green Baron: 
Or a zombie cook book
<But he can only say Tim-may>
He has said "And the lords of the underworld" before!
<can afford to lose every penny you invest>
Any money I plan to put into the stock market is money that I feel there is a good chance to loose anyway.

Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. -Edwin
Fire Storm
Friday, January 25, 2002 09:11:45 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

JOSH - Actually, I could care less about being 'jacked' on the stats... I'm not looking for the Ultimo-Comptuer that I won't have to deal with for thirty years down the road. I can't afford it! I'm paying a full, reasonable price for my new system, and from the stats I've read, it will suit what I want to do just fine. ^_^

As for what Area I manage as an Area Manager, that's up to where I'm assigned for the shift. Front Counter, Grill, Drive-Thru... that's the sort of areas I mean.

And speaking of which, the word on when I can wear those shirts came down today; I sat down and spoke with my Area Supervisor (she's the bigger boss over my store manager), and she told me I can start being a full-paid and certified Area Manager starting tomorrow! New Payraise! And... this is the real mindkicker! In a month, If I perform well, and prove I have the knowledge and the skills in place, I'll start in on Manager training, starting with Floor Manager in Training (all areas of the store)... if I get through that and more, by the end of 12 weeks I'll become a Shift Manager!

In short... DERN LOT'S HAPPENED TODAY BOYS!!! ^_^

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Friday, January 25, 2002 06:31:28 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

Imzadi - <Thanks, I think.> Let me explain my position: I am against sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman. Furthermore, what you do in your private life is your business, but I don't want to pay for the consequences of your actions. <are you a friend-boy?> We go back to when I was in 6th and 7th grade through 10th grade. We became reacquainted when I was attending my 1st college. [Those were the dark days of my life. If you guys thought I was frozen before, then I must have been at absolute zero at that time.] We renewed friendship again AND again. I would rather stick to the term "friend".

cyberklaw - <It's just a simple fact that while there are many who like and enjoy both science-fiction and fantasy (me included), the genre is generally sneered upon by pretty much everyone else. I've never fully figured out why, but I have accepted that's the way things are.> The problem is people don't look at it beyond what they see at the surface level.

DPH
AR, USA
Friday, January 25, 2002 06:26:00 PM
IP: 204.94.193.47

DPH> <<Yes. BTW, what's up with your spelling? Even when I communicate through instant messaging you always have lots and lots of spelling errors.>> I type too fast and I'm too lazy to correct myself.

Fire Storm> <<What's so bad about that? Tim-may gets the babes AND was the leader of a rock band!>> But he can only say Tim-may.

<<What's your opinion: Do you think Kmart will be a good buy if it is still around in a month? The stock is currently down below a dollar.>> Very risky. If it climbs above a dollar, it is easier to buy among on-line firms and there may be more hope. Still, that is very risky and I'd only recommend it if you like gambling and can afford to lose every penny you invest.

Imzadi> <> It's guilt. Good old-fashioned guilt. Look upon it as a learning experience. I'm glad the scare was that. Maybe you should give little Josh a rest for now.

<<Like I should run out tomorrow and get a vasectomy at the ripe old age of 20, just to be sure that I can never go back.>> Perosnally I'd back you up on that. It's jsut too bad they aren't 100% effective.

Kathy> Actually I learned that in sex ed, which was surprisingly in Religion class. I gues they want us to learn about what we're not supposed to do.

Spacebabie> <<Hey the only thing I stick in my motuh and inhale is my astma puffer.>> Well, that's kind of graphic ;)

<<I�m still a virgin. I have been around the bases but I never slid home, so I�m not exactly pure or chaste.>> You're still chaste, just not on the Virgin Mary level of purity. I'm glad you're still a virgin. I'm the only one in my whole unit and the oldest one in Basic.

Mecord> <<I�m sure Atilla (or his ghost rather) would remember hitting on her, she�s called Cat after all>> Attila probably did. He's a ghost and can get around so you'll probably get an exoricst if she has kittens.

<<As many as she�ll let me. ;)>> So she'll just let you have a second wife to do the housework for her ;)

I noticed your marriage as I read throughteh Comment Room archives.

I've know read teh Doug and Kit controversy and the flame wars that nearly nuked the CR, along with SJ's bisexual girlfriend in Niagra falls.

Jan> I thought Anna already had her kid.

John Walker> He's a traitor. He shoudl have his citizneship revoked. However he was actually fighting us in combat and not just entertaining the enemy like Jane Fonda. I'll give him credit for that, but when you join with a force that has declared death to your nation, you have committed treason. If he is executed, I shed no tears, but he shoudl be tried as the other Taliban are. It might be amusing if his mother is a good Buddhist and sets herself on fire in protest :)

SJ <> Well, if she has kittens, you knwo what ghost kitty si to blame.

<<By the time I was finished with the subject, I was reading Miguel Cervantes� �Don Quixote�, in the original Spanish. And I�m an idiot with languages! >> That is a long ass book. It took my Uncle a year to read it in English and he's an MD.

<<And with that paragraph, you�ve summed up the last few decades of the (public) school system.>> Note, my kids get Catholic homeschooling unless my wife works, too. I am so gald I wnet to a Catholic school, though our salutatorian was a dumb jock with a high IQ :)

<<When I am King (the EMPEROR of KINGS!), I will mandate that on Sundays, all hot women must dress like schoolgirls.>> I grew up with it, so it doesn't have that big an effect on me. I'm certain your school ahd girls in uniform too.

<<Having sex with Aaron in the shower? Gee, I don�t know�..maybe if he wears the Fox wig�..>> You get Aaron distracted, then my cat gets Mara.

Spacebabie is older than I am, but I guess he would eb a technical virgin after kissing the Green Baron :)
Her purity score is higher than mine, last time I checked

Patrick Toman. OJ did what? Attila will talk to him about that. Of course, the real killer may have done that :)

Metaldemon> I don't know Joyce, but I have trouble believing Faulkner better than Tolkein, as Faulkner is American. I have only read tolkein so I won't comment yet. I do think Tolkein, Chesterton, and CS Lewis form a trinity of the best Christian writers for the twentieth century.

As for recycling, Shakespeare was the bigegst recycler of all times, and one of the most celebrated models of English literature.

Lain> <<us army standard-issue 2cm-thick foam sleeping mat, one blanket, two buckets (one for use as a toilet), a one quart canteen, two orange boiler suits, one pair flip-flops, two bath towels, one for washing, one for use as a prayer mat, a washcloth, toothpaste, soap, shampoo and a copy of the Koran.>> That sounds very fair to me. Their basic and spiritual needs are met. It's not a hotel but they are priosners, afterall. At least they aren't forced to do calisthenic exercises every morning.

He shoudl eb strippe dof his American citizenship as should those Britsih Taliban be stripped of their British citizenship. They are citizens of Al-Qaeda and should be treated as such.

Christine> I thought Book of Flesh was about Zombie porn :)

I think Gside is invading my mind.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau
Friday, January 25, 2002 06:20:06 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

Me again ...
Site update -- no new fanfic, but a piece of art by Rodlox in the Gallery, a naughty original short story by moi, and some carious other bits of news. Click or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html
Christine - [christine@sabldrake.com]
Friday, January 25, 2002 05:15:28 PM
IP: 64.24.187.135

Winterwolf > d'oh! Well, oops, typos happen ... anyway, yes, Silversilk is the start of that trilogy and depending on where in the area you are, it might be convenient to pick up a copy at Gary's Games (87th and Greenwood in Seattle) or Totem Books in Monroe, both of which places have it in stock. Or, hey, you could head over to Pasco on Prez. Day weekend for RadCon! The opportunities are limitless!

Christine
Friday, January 25, 2002 04:48:23 PM
IP: 64.24.187.135

**Winterwolf stops for a visit**

Hi. Not much going on at the moment so I figured I had some free time for replies. ;)

Jan> <heh, there's something about tagging your car in the new "home" town/state to make a person feel as if they really belong, huh?> Oddly it really does. It just makes it all so real. Of course the rent checks and other bills with the new address have already come so maybe it's just me being silly. <I, in some ways, was sad to take off my Texas tags but yet I felt like I was *home* once I put on the Missouri tags.> I still have my old tags in the trunk. I've already opened the trunk to look at them a few times just because I can. Did you get to keep your old ones or did they take em?

SOROW> <Hey all. Things have been so crazy up here in Austin that I can't even keep up with you guys. My classes are hell and I'm not sleeping so well. I hope you all are doing alright, send some love my way if you have a sec. :)> **TONS of LOVE just for you** from Dreamie and me. Hope things get better soon.

Josh> <So that's it, huh? Its permanent and all that stuff.> Yeah. Though it could always be changed back. Still I like the change so that's unlikely. <why do you seem like the type of guy to have a schoolgirl fantasy?> Nope, not me. I think you're thinking of SJ.

Stephen> Congrats on the soon to be promotion!

Fire Storm> <Hmm... Warhammer! Large ones! And Hamsters!> Will any of the hamsters be named "Boo"?

Warpmind> <might get a blood-transfusion kit built into my next weapon>Mmm blood.

Christine> <start on the next trilogy> That is the Silversilk trilogy right? I'll have to come by your place for a visit and pick them up to save on postage... ;) Oh btw I did notice once in Archmage you wrote Thom when you where talking about Tahm. I should so show that to him next Gathering. :D

Well I'm off to eat lunch the pick up Dreamie. Bye bye everybody!

**Winterwolf leaves**

Winterwolf
Seattle, WA
Friday, January 25, 2002 03:08:39 PM
IP: 172.182.198.87

Yay, the scary guy at work is gone! Kicked out for damaging the property, hassling the other residents, and stealing food. After eleven years in this biz, there aren't many that give me the creeps and make me feel actually physically unsafe all alone there during the long overnights, but wow, this guy sure did. Glad he's gone. Huzzah!

Josh > that's a shame about all the weirdness you've just been through. It sounds to me like you've been responsible and dealing with it as well as can be expected. Hope all goes well. And for the record (I'm sure I've said this before), no, it's not porn, it's ZOMBIES! ; )

Warpmind > well, if you stay on your heinie a little longer, you can buy Knight of the Basilisk at the same time and save a bit on postage <g>. Looking at March, though no official date's set just yet.

Niahmgold > they made you _buy_ a skull model when there's hundreds of perfectly good ones to be had for free with just a little midnight digging? Sheesh ... first the outrageous prices for books ... then even more outrageous prices for bound photocopies of books ... now this ... academia, pff!

Winterwolf > thank you! I'm delighted that you enjoyed it, and now you can start on the next trilogy!

Jan > that baby's not here yet? Well, as today's Friday, hopefully you'll have some news for us by the next time you post. Good luck to Anna and the wee one with the inducement.

Stephen > thanks for the news, and congrats on the promotion! I'll be looking for your e-mails.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, January 25, 2002 10:03:20 AM
IP: 64.24.187.106

*Warpmind stumbles in, looking part-weary, part-excitable and all bald.*
G'day, everyone. I managed to get involved with the King's Hird the other day; a group that does mostly stage-fighting and such with viking-era weaponry. 'Tis great fun; some of their members were even hired to stage fighting with swords and hobbits for the premiere of LOTR... But DAMN does a two-hour workout come with a vengeance! I think every joint in my body (no, not the dope kind) suffers much the same pains as a hangover must be like... :p

Ah, well, replies.

Lain: Too bad about the headphones, too *weird* abotu the computer... That's MS stability for ya, huh?

Fire Storm: Actually, not so many poodles... I figure looking like they do is punishment enough... };) As for writing... dear me, dear me... Don't you know that to write decent action-based stories, all you gotta do is visualize the thing (or, in this case, things) and act as a reporter? Works just fine for me. :) (But I warn you: it is defined as extremely hazardous for anyone other than myself to start viewing and transcribing the stuff that happens between my ears.) };)

Winterwolf: Drain the life outta people? Um... sorta; unfortunately, not in the vampiric sense. (That *is* *un*fortunate, right?) But I might get a blood-transfusion kit built into my next weapon... whatever that turns out to be.

Gside: Yes, the drink. And, actually, the shot variety. As for the color combo... I think we're thinking the wrong purple here... and not completely insane villains, either. As for the porn Mah-Jongg, well... what can I say? It's a welcome change from strip poker...

SJ: Worshipping the Elder Gods? Bah; if they'd been worshipping THEM, I wouldn't worry. Well, actually, I would, but in a totally different way, if you get my drift...

Josh: No, I'm not an art student. The only thing I can draw anything that looks like a normal human being is when trying to draw an Outer Horror, or something along those lines. And vice versa. As for the numbers... to paraphrase from Terry Pratchett's "Equal Rites": A million-to-one chance usually pans out nine out of ten times. As for the potential... um... well... I think the sum o'the first prize is in the vicinity of 2M USD... but it's usually divided between 5-10 winners, so... Your cut will be reasonable, if the profits can handle it. (My first priority will, of course, be to get to G'02. But if there's enough money for that, there's bound to be some for you, too...) As for the hobby-satanists, the metal issue you mentioned was exactly what I had in mind. Which is why you won't see me standing next to'em in bad weather. At least, not without good insulation.

By the way... Gside's and Josh' mention of drinks makes me think... *Goes off to look up some of the drink names in Spike's fics* Heh... What's the name of that one particular... "A Good Slow Screw Up Against A Wall"? Considering the bartenders at the ground floor bar are all women in their early twenties, that could make for an interesting order... };)

Sarge Abernathy: So the lights were screwy while you did Hamlet, huh? More things between heaven and earth... };)

Well, that kinda kinches it. Later, gang.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, January 25, 2002 04:13:35 AM
IP: 194.54.100.9

::comes into the CR and plops down on the couch::

There's nothing quite like starting your day with an email telling you that the girl who just got tested is NOT pregnant. Sure put a bit of a spring in my step, I'll tell you.

Today was a long day, as all my Thursday's are apt to be for the rest of the semester. In stuctural, we got another assignment on top of our lab, due just two days later. That should...suck. Then in transportation he starts confusing us by telling us we should check books out of the library that are supposed to be photocopied in the reader. Got our first assignment in project management. I'm looking forward to an engineering class that doesn't involve much actual math. And then in transport lab we found out about our lab project, which is a semester-long trio of reports on what to do about a hypothetical weaving problem on a freeway on/off ramp. That should be fairly interesting, but I think its gonna take a lot of time.

Thank goodness I had a lunch break somewhere in there. If I had to work from 8 to 5 without eating...I'd flip.

Patrick: <<lotteries and casino games where the odds of winning are a lot less than 1 in 20 (5%), but tell people that something is "95% effective" and they take that to mean "guaranteed sucess" even though it also means "5% chance of failure">>: Your statement is backwards. Yes, it does mean 5% chance of failure. But you know something? If there were a casino game that only had a 5% chance of failure, you'd have camped out at the table. And you'd always come out ahead, because that's how probability works. Its not unreasonable to expect a condom to work properly. But not every time.

Spacebabie: <<Woo Freakin Hoo I'm done with my paper. and it won't be due till five more days>>: Overacheiver. I'd have done exactly the same thing. <>: I bet that was a pretty picture. <<Why did the gaurds forget their sprig of parsley or are the taliban not allowed to watch tv?>>: LOL! <<do I need to steal some lubes from Crzy?>>: I bet he'd love that. <<Yes I am good boy>>: Do I get a treat? <<Yes but does he speak English?>>: yes! <<First day of my classes I learned I have paper due the 29th>>: That's a long way away. <<All starter cars should be simple>>: Ah of course. Well at 25, I wasn't expecting you to get a starter car. <<Boy did I luck out, of course I am an ENGLISH major>>: Yeah, I suppose you did take the easy route. <<You confessed to me I confessed to your, Tit for Tat:::Stop laughing>>: I'm not laughing.

Lain: <<for the first time in my university career, i learned something today in class>>: I remember that day! <<very useful information, you know>>: Does that mean you can get a job now? <<as they are not "prisoners of war" they are denied the privilages that the geneva convention would provide. they are also not being held on US soil, which means they are not afforded privalages of US prisonners>>: Gee, maybe we intended it that way... <<yes josh, i know you are right about everything. why the heck didnt i listen to you in the first place? i should have known better.. i guess you must chalk it up to the fact that i am a liberal arts student, and therefore have no sense whatsoever>>: Well, though I was right in this case, I think its fair to assume from recent events that I am not right about everything. <<youd probably feel the same way>>: My dad suggests microwaving it. <<dont deny your urges... you might get more>>: Yeah, more kids! <<maybe its all the porn>>: You have porn!? Sweet! We should trade ;-)

DPH: <<I'm mad>>: Aren't we all? <>: are you a friend-boy? <<If you can't guess how I feel about your recent problems, tough luck>>: Thanks, I think. <<Is there any time that you post in the CR when you're in what I consider to be a good mood?>>: that depends on your definition. Personally, I thought he was in a great mood last night. <<why are there so many award shows>>: So everyone can feel special.

Cyberklaw: <<I've never fully figured out why>>: Don't worry, when I take over there will be a sci-fi geek on the panel of every one of these things.

Fire Storm: <<Warhammer!...And Hamsters!>>: I see...red spots. <>: Gee, thanks, I think. <<do you really want it to cut it off inside of you?>>: how about just dentricles surrounding the opening? Then it would never get in. <>: Just one? <<She was NOT attractive>>: Then why were you having sex with her? <<But NOT 24 year olds with a steady job>>: My friend is the son of the guy who owns Cherokee, Inc. Started his own tech company that is still making money. Couldn't get a credit card, even with his dad as a co-signer, until he was 20. <<Then you found a winner!>>: So true. <>: when I heard this story, I remember that the girl I lost it to also told me to forget the rubber (I made her wait until we got one). I am SO glad I insisted. Now she's a crack whore. <<apparently impossible for you>>: You'd better be careful, I'm gonna rule the world soon. <<what pleasant dreams>>: If you say so. <<You can't go fast enough>>: That's why warp drives were invented. <<two rules for success>>: LOL!

Stephen: <<Area Manager>>: What Area do you manage? The restroom? <<But, this is for personal use>>: Um, der. Do you really think a mac can't be used for personal use? Okay but now I have to know what you spent. And it looks like you got jacked on stats too.

Sarge Abernathy: <<felt like Claifornia!>>: Where is Claifornia? <>: Very good, young jedi.

If brute force doesn't work, you're not using enough.
-Mike Margolis

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, January 25, 2002 03:29:46 AM
IP: 64.161.24.212

ok, i'm freaked out.

on top of everything that has happened thththtis week, someone has stolen another one of my names, this time on yahoo!

the name they stole was an admin name for my club! i'm afraid that if they find out about that, it will be deleted too!

that is gonna SUCK! i gotta find this person! but now i'm closer than i ever will be. hahaha

well, hope everyone else has a good next few days!

*sigh*

-={King- blah blah blah, you all know my name}=-

Terrky K - [terry_kath_2ooo@yahoo.com]
Kansas
Friday, January 25, 2002 12:12:59 AM
IP: 63.252.221.172

sorry for the double post. Computer acting weird.
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:21:16 PM
IP: 152.163.197.181

Well today was a weird day. The school blacked out for a half hour. . . . felt like Claifornia!!!

*crickets chrip*

okay bad joke. . . . but anyway. . . a car crashed near a bridge next to the school. The lights flickered once, and then sometime later during AP english it flickered again. And today was the FINAL for the Hamlet acting. . . we WERE going to tape but without light it was useless. . . so we took our costumes off, cleaned up and headed back to my classroom. THEN the lights came one and my teacher screamed at us to go back down to the auditorium, get dressed, and perform!

I was Horatio. *smiles big*

My Uncle is here. He's a great guy to be with. Funny to foola round with. But sometimes he says some conservative or anti-liberal things that tick me off. I've learned to ignore it as best as I can and love him as the uncle he is. He made us a steak with tarragon adn soy sauce and i thought I would die and go to heaven! HMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm STEAK!

I might go to a party this saturday with friends. I'd miss an opprtunity ot see the airport and all the security, and the chance to set off metal detectors. . . . but hey there's always next year!

Know what I found out? The U.S. territory of Guam has a plebiscite to see if it wants to become a U.S. state or independent on the SAME day as my birthday THIS year! Cool huh?

Okay so about everyone who've I told rolled their eyes. . . but I think it is cool!

IMZADI>>>My uncle came and he had his dell 3500 (or some number) and I checked it out. I didn't like it much. The graphics were weird and stuff. I think i want a Mac.

TOMAN>>><<<In the news > The two biggest stories yesterday morning: Mike Tyson bites Lennox Lewis, and O.J. Simpson questioned after ex-girlfriend goes missing. Man, for a moment it felt like the 90s were back again. >>> What decade are we in? In the 1900's they called them the ots. . . . are we in the O-o's or the zeroes? Anyway I know what you mean. History deems to be repeating itself and they say that only happens when you don't learn from it. We must've forgotten something back in the 90's.

LAIN>>><<<my computer.. fixed itself.. BY itself.. inexplicably. dont ask me, i dont know. to the best of my knowledge, its not posessed (it never met warpmind..) but i dunno.. maybe its all the porn.. :P >>> Wear garlic and keep your computer in a circle of salt and candles. If your roomate makes a comment or asks something throw a mixture of olive oil and scented oil at her, gasp some words in some unknown language and then continue to perform voodoo magic to heal your computer of the devil that possess it. If it IS the porn. . . . well the same routine might help.

AFGHANISTAN>>> I wouln't mind going there to visit the old ruins of the palaces and other places that were destroyed by the Taliban, it would be interesting. But first they're going to have to get rid of a few landmines, some crazy warlords, and Mr. Osama. . . . I always want to ask my afghan friend about what it was like over there. But he managed to escape war and I don't ever want to bring the subject up.
As for Afghanistan itself. Je ne sais pas. Now with the Taliban gone there appears to be a stable community with some threats. But this is only my impression. I doubt that is what it truely is. The country has been in war for so long and it will go through war for a lot longer.

sorry for the typos

BTW I love this Elisa Picture
Sarge Abernathy - [SargeMM@aol.com]
Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:18:55 PM
IP: 152.163.197.181

Greetings all...

Well, today was a bit of a surprise.

In that at work, my boss came in to hand out uniforms and clothing items the crew had ordered from last month. I'd just ordered some new crew shoes (mine are starting to fall apart as I near my first annaversary with this store), but those take a while to get in, so I wasn't expecting anything...

but then, my boss comes over with two shirts in her hand, hands them to me and says "Don't wear these until I tell you to.".

I was stunned! Because these shirts, FYI, are the type you only get to wear when you're certified as a Area Manager in full. In short, the months of waiting, working and basically kicking my own ass around to prove I could handle the tasks of an Area Manager have paid off! As soon as the paperwork and such is finished, I'll be able to truely call myself an Area Manager; complete with the responsibilities, the full pay, and the clear course ahead to start working towards becoming a REAL Manager!

Cool, huh? Well, I thought it was...

Anyway, replies!

LOTR COMMENTS - True, it's history and fact most sci-fi and fantasy films never garner the top awards when the ceremonies hit... but, hey, we can all dream can't we?

JOSH - <<MAC! MAC!>> I wish... considering you can do wonders in graphic arts and desktop design on Macs. But, this is for personal use, so I had to settle for PC... but it's a way better machine than my current "Igor" P1/200mmx. The new machine's going to have:

AMD Duron 950mhz processor on a Socket A Mother
256mb PC133 SDRAM (expandible to 1 Gig, I think)
20 Gig Hard Drive
50x CD Rom
12x/6x/40x CDRW Drive (FINALLY!)
10/100 PC Ethernet Card

With the standard mouse, keyboard and speakers... which I plan to swap out for my ergo-board, and a better sound card and video card in the future. But for now, I'm stoked! Just got to pay it off before April 10th, and make my birthday rock with all the computing power I'll have (albeit not much, considering other machines and such...but you have to take what little life gives you, eh?).

CHRISTINE - Special note, should have stuff for Sabledrake by Sunday. Wish me luck! ^_^

Well, that's all for me for now... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. -