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SJ> <<Damn straight! I’m “f!cked up” evil, Greg’s just “sick” evil.>> Nah, I'm f-cked up evil as well. I also like to think I'm Fun evil. <<Evil is the least of the things I’ve been called>> It's a compliment.

JOSH> <> Just as I do. Hmm, we think way too much alike. <<Very "Spawn the Movie".>> The Hell, don't talk to me that way? That was one of the worst movies ever! ;) <<As opposed to Satan...who wants the exact same thing.>> No he doesn't, Satan just wants to go rock climbing, hug babies and go on gay cruises. <> I have this theory that God is but one of many Gods and each God created their own existence, and our God is creating people and only wants the most fanatical to serve in his army to conquer the other existences, and the reason he sends people to Hell who don't worship him is because they wouldn't fight in his army. Hmm, this would make a good comic book. <<Actually, it'd just mean you were REALLY pathetic. Like, more pathetic than I am.>> Yes I agree, unless of course it's Brian Boitano. When Brian Boitano travelled through time to the year 3010, he fought the evil robot king and saved the human race again, and when Brian Boitano built the pyramids, he beat up Kublai Khan because Brian Boitano doesn't take shit from anybody! <> See SJ!

A moment of silence for Chuck Jones

RAVYN> It happens, a girl in my graduating class had her baby at 16.

GB> <<Stalin and Hitler could be forgiven if they repent, but in my humble and quite human opinion, I doubt they did.>> Being a Commie, Stalin was of course an Atheist, so of course he didn't. And Hitler was a fanatical Catholic who thought he was doing God's work, so I doubt he did either.

DPH> <<Unless the two ships were fighting in an asteroid field, I'd give the fight to the Defiant because of the cloaking device>> Nope, the White Star is equipped with Vorlon tech, it'd see right through the Defiant's cloaking device. Sorry but anything B5 vs anything DS9 and DS9 is going down. <<Speaking of the crossover, hypothetically, if the defiant could engage in warp drive while in hyperspace, how fast could it travel?>> Probably cause an explosion like the one Sheridan caused when he actiavated a jump point inside the jump gate in the season three premere. Damn, I can't believe I'm having this conversation, better stop before I cross the line that I've always bordered on. Can we go back to the earlier discussion on Sauron's concubines? What can I say, this topic is more interesting than the endless Tolkien debate on whether or not Balrogs have wings... and they do! ;)

WINTERWOLF AND DREAMIE> My congrats also.

"Last night I received a phone call from beyond the grave! It was our departed friend, Kenny calling from the depths of Hell, and he described what Hell was like in horrid detail! He said that in Hell, the smell is awful! He said that in Hell, everyone speaks Spanish! He said there is water in Hell, but if you drink it, you pee blood out of your ass for seven hours! And perhaps worst of all, there are dozens and dozens of little trinkit stores, but they all have the same little trinkits in them!!
-Eric Cartman "South Park"
Greg Bishansky
Sunday, February 24, 2002 12:09:38 AM
IP: 216.179.2.18

Winterwolf and Dreamie- CONGRATS! ;D

Green Baron- I know! Kai's sister brings her kids over a lot. One is 8, one is 2 and the last is either one..or very close. When the 8-year-old was young he terrorized the cats here, and now the 2-year-old is going at it. Every time he comes over he screams in the cat's face (there is only one now as one died recently). He chases her, and pulls on her tail. And if the cat yells at him, or takes a peice of food when he isn't looking, or bats at him with her clawless paw my soon-to-be-mother-in-law or my soon-to-be-sister-in-law will jump right at her and scream that she is being a 'little witch' and hit her or throw her in another room. I just can't STAND IT. If a child, or any other aged person for that matter, in this family or otherwise EVER comes into my home (that I will have in a year or so) and does ANYTHING like that to my cats they will be told (perhaps not kindly) to get out of my house. If your child treats animals like that they should be punished. Periode. They have dogs at his sisters place..and one of them has bitten at the boy already. She wants to get rid of the dog now. I think they need to teach that kid that some animals are NOT going to be as kind, nor are adults always going to be there to pull him out of harms way. I can't stand it when ppl hit or punish animals in any way, instead of modifying their own (or their children's) behavior when they are clearly at fault. We are human beings, they are animals. It is OUR job not to treat them in a way to make them agressive. The dog and cat are both sweet indoor animals..they only act that way when pushed. So ya..that comment was by his grandma..and it very much annoyed me. Not only did she make the assumption that I want children, but then added on that I couldn't have cats, because they would hurt the kids. My cats are angels. If they ever raised a paw to anyone I would be certain the other party was to blame. *tries to calm down* *breaths* sorry..just ..love my cats..love animals..can't stand ppl acting that way.

I am going to post in here more often. I love posting, and now that I am settled again I hope to do so almost every night:)

Christine- Way to update that site! Congrats on your writing! Can't wait to purchase your latest!! *is really excited about it/called friends to tell them!*:D

hmm..I ..really thought I had something to say..*pouts* ah well..guess it is too late for my brain. *sighs* great. More work tommorrow. I hate this six day a week stuff. I also hate my Sundays. I have to go into work at 4 and stay till 10. I can't enjoy the first part of the day cuz I know I am going to work soon. So Sat is really my only day I have to myself:) I try and have as much fun as possible on Sat;) Went to mall, got bathroom cleaned, had some chinese..pretty good day I think:) *notes that knowbody could possibly care about rant she is making..shuts up*

Lexy
Saturday, February 23, 2002 11:44:34 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

Dreamie and Wolfie:: Congrats! May you find your union as heart-felt and satisfying as it was today for all of your life together. Joy to you, my friends.

Ethan: Welcome, and leave with us some of the joy you bring!

That is all.
shinigami
Saturday, February 23, 2002 09:45:11 PM
IP: 172.129.107.69

**enters and pops a champagne bottle for Winterwolf and Dreamie**

Congratulations, you guys. Ain't love great?

**emphasizes his point by sweeping Ravyn into a loving embrace**
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Saturday, February 23, 2002 07:29:50 PM
IP: 216.234.124.169

***please note the change in e-mail. My hotmail account has too much junk mail so I closed it down.***

I hope everyone is having a nice weekend. Since I'm almost over this cold I'm really glad. I've spent some of my free time this week rereading some of the old TGS eps. and they still get to me everytime. Has anyone seen Queen of the Damned yet? Looks very good.

Books- I just found this BIG bookstore next to a movie theater and I feel in love with it. Found this book by Katherine Kurtz called St. Patrick's Gargoyle. Bet you can't guess what it's about. ;P

BTW-Does anyone else have imesh? Sure mine cause some problems with my computer every now and then but I've found soooo many songs that I've been looking for.

Ravyn-Good luck with the apartment. I'm going to be looking for one when I get out of the Army and I will most likely need luck on my side.

David G<Gateway> I know, where does a cow come into the picture when dealing with a computer or for that matter the name Gateway? ( uh-oh I think my Gateway laptop know's what I'm talking about)

I just voted and Gargoyles is still no. 1

Green Baron- I am 14series and ADA (Air Defense Artillary) and if you want to know about Bliss well...it's hot and very brown, very little in the way to trees. There is a BIG mountain in plain very and from what I saw the barracks and dining facilities are fantastic.

Well I'm heading out.
Later.

jaden - [jaden1443@aol.com]
Saturday, February 23, 2002 07:18:03 PM
IP: 172.182.188.170

**Winterwolf and Dreamie enter with their arms around each other lovingly**

Hi everybody! Last night was a very special night. ^_^

It all started this past Monday when we found the most beautiful delicate diamond wedding set. We had been looking for the past three weekends at various antique jewelry and jewelry stores. After finding the current styles not to our taste so we focused more on the antique stuff and we weren’t disappointed. We found the perfect ring set that we just kept getting drawn back to looking over. It’s a 1940’s yellow gold design. The engagement band has a central round diamond in an illusion setting surrounded by little diamond clusters (in a diamond shape) on both sides. The wedding band fits perfectly next to it and compliments with three rows of diamond clusters (also in a diamond shape). It really sparkles and shines. The ring needed to be sized down to fit and we were told that it would be ready at the earliest on Friday but not to expect it Friday. On Thursday Winterwolf received a phone call that it was in and picked it up Friday before picking up Dreamie. The two of us got dressed up semi formal that night going to a new fancy Italian (seriously we eat more Chinese and Dim Sum cause it’s our favorite, but since we were looking for romantic...) place for dinner that is reputed to be a romantic spot in Seattle. Winterwolf showed Dreamie’s mom the set and she loved it. The restaurant was good but didn’t quite compare to our Valentine’s Day meal where the food and service was excellent. That aside the evening was magical and the mood was perfect. Between courses Winterwolf made his move. He got up (nervously), moved his chair aside, and got down on one knee and we touched foreheads. It felt like all time stopped and there was nothing but the two of us and a flickering candle in the room. Vows of eternal love were shared and the question was asked, the ring was presented and Dreamie said yes along with a long sweet kiss. This was followed by an even longer kiss and embrace. Then the rest of the evening we held hands and looked deeply into each other’s eyes. We finished our dinner and went outside to cuddle as we gazed over Lake Washington (Bill Gate’s house was just across the waterway, so Wolfie joked at it “Give me a job!”). Then we hopped into the car as eventually the chilly night air got us to leave the scenic view behind and we went home, Dreamie with a new ring on her finger and an even stronger feeling of love between us. ^_^

So that’s the short version of our story that we’ll always have to remember our engagement on February 22, 2002. (Interestingly coinciding with Washington’s birthday) I hope you’ve enjoyed sharing with us. :)

Replies later... **both go back to cuddling and leave the CR**
Dreamie and Winterwolf
Saturday, February 23, 2002 05:59:29 PM
IP: 172.181.21.69

Hmm, it's time for me to enjoy breakfast. I went to sleep ~ 2:00 am. I got up ~ 7:00 am to visit the restroom and went back to sleep. I woke up ~ 1:00pm.

I made my breakfast yesterday and today I baked it.

In case you guys haven't noticed, I've been a little off from knowing/defending my religious beliefs. Let me explain my problem. I can't trust my dad enough to tell him the complete truth (especially about what hours I sleep). The problem is I can't lie to my dad and worship my God.

**RANT ABOUT MY DAD**
::Switching to angry mood:: He has insisted from the very beginning that my back pain is in my head. Yea right. He has woke up me up early despite telling him I need more sleep. He doesn't understand the need for psychologists to help deal with mental problems. He does not understand why my brother and his sister are going to parenting parenting classes while my nephew is being treated for depression or some other mental illness. He is really stingy and does not understand enjoying life [Don't ask me how I plan on explaining to him why I would want to go the Gathering and why I won't want him going with me if he asks]. If I could use my anger against him as a fuel source, I wouldn't have to pay electric bills for a few months.
**end rant against my dad**

Hmm. Breakfast tasted good. Making sausage pinballs with cheese biscuits instead of normal biscuits tastes great and the cheese flavor is not so overwhelming.

Onward to replies:

Warpmind - my condolences

Todd - <I'm reminded of C. S. Lewis's "Out of the Silent Planet", where the villain of that book is definitely carrying out something that's evil, but not for selfish gain. The villain, a scientist named Weston, has built a small spaceship and heads for Mars in it, planning to establish some sort of Earth-colony there as the first step towards preserving humanity when the Earth becomes uninhabitable (from where it can head off into other solar systems and survive); Mars in Lewis's story is inhabited, and inhabited by other intelligent races, but Weston decides to simply kill them off so that humans can claim the planet. Fortunately, the "governor" of Mars (a sort of archangel placed in charge of it by God when He created the solar system) captures him and sends him back to Earth before Weston can kill more than a few of the Martians. The story makes it clear that Weston is acting on behalf of his race rather than of he himself (he's even willing to sacrifice himself on behalf of humanity), but that what he's doing is still evil in that he's ready and willing to wipe out other races to ensure humanity's preservation.> I'd argue that we have a bigger claim to Mars than any other species unless they are native to the planet. Let this be a lesson: don't colonize any planet unless there are no sentient species on that planet or in that Solar System without their permission.

David G - thanks for the help on defining good and evil.

Green Baron - You reminded of something: you couldn't give away the award for being most humble person on Earth if the person had to accept it. <Well, JWs are one of the reasons why America may deserve to be called the Great Satan. Other reaosns include Marilyn Manson, Ted Kennedy, the Baldwins, Bill Clinton, Pat Buchanan, and the Puriatns> You compared Pat Buchanan to Bill Clinton? I hold neither one in high regard, but I wouldn't put them in the same category.

GXB - Unless the two ships were fighting in an asteroid field, I'd give the fight to the Defiant because of the cloaking device. Speaking of the crossover, hypothetically, if the defiant could engage in warp drive while in hyperspace, how fast could it travel?
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, February 23, 2002 05:24:08 PM
IP: 204.94.193.70

Another week of rain and wind. I am starting to enjoy being in Germany especially with Istanbul 3 hours away by plane, but I would love a nice desert assignment right now.

David G> Well, this time the good and evil discussion is over definitions.

I agree with your commenst about the Paradise Lost quote. Serving in Hell is much worse than serving in Heaven. Besides, I'd rather be VP of a large propserous multinational corporation (that assigns me to Istanbul or soem otehr inexpensive big city, while I am paid a king's ransom every month) than CEO of some mom and pop type operation that will just survive and probably land me in the Amercian Heartland where I drive two hours to work and have to drive for an hour just to go to Mass on Sunday.

I'd say Hitler was evil when he was a student. Evil is a moral choice as well as deeds and acts. There are children at ages like seven who have chosen evil and some have repented.

<<Selfishness is the root of evil, the starting point. A totally selfless person would have a hard time being evil.>> I'd say hubris is the root of evil, not selfishness. Lucifer was cast out of Heaven for his pride (what other sin is an archangel capable of), and a slefless man can grow proud of his accomplishments and righteousness, like the Pharisee in Jesus' tale of the Pharisee and the Publican. I consider pride a greater corrupter of our soul than selfishness/greed, though alrgely anything that putting ourselves above God is evil. Cowardice can also be evil. Judas betrayed Jesus and ina lesser extent St. Peter denied him. St. Peter is forgiven (though he definietly asked if not begged for forgiveness). and is the first Pope until he is crucified upside down.

Judas is cowardly. Jesus would forgive him. Lucifer could theoretically be forgiven. Lucifer is too proud to do that. Judas was a coward and took his life instead of having the humility to beg for forgiveness.

Theoretically, Stalin and Hitler could be forgiven if they repent, but in my humble and quite human opinion, I doubt they did. I don't beleive they'd go straight to Heaven if they repented, but that's a hole different debate. I also believe pride is a major reason for many evil men to cling to their evil ways.

<<Babies are exempt because they don't know any better. In fact, I could argue that babies aren't even SELFISH because they don't know any better, but that's a long, boring argument fraught with great subjectivity.>> I disagree. Selfishness is a human instinct and a baby is not yet capable of controlling instinct. Another aspect of evil is to let your instincts guide you when you shoudl be controlling them.

Todd> I need to get that back. BTW, what is your opinion on GK Chesterton?

SJ> <<Here’s the thing, though – I’d do the very same thing he did, if it was my species on the line.>> But you admit to being evil, so where's the conflict. There's a difference ebtween killing for defense or to eat and wiping out an intelligent race even for humanity. Besides, Mars would have been overpopulated in a few centuries and then what?

Imzadi> <<They were also fools.>> So are Jackal and Hyena, since they probably spend their money as tehy get it and don't save for a rainy day.

<<It depends on who sets it up.>> And how far it si form you locationwise.

<<Do you realize how wrong that is?>> I do, though that won't phase me. We all do things that are objectively wrong. If my libido was weakneed when I was in my teens, I bet my GPA would be higher and I'd be fourth in my class instead of ninth. It was more a distraction for me in those days. I didn't ahve a date until I was 17. All that wasted energy and thinking.

<<What wrong with him?>> Shoudl I leave him out in associating Americans with Satan. That's part of his persona unless he changed that completely. I admire his sense of capitalism and how he mocks his hardcore fans who treat as something more than a celebrity.

<> I'd love to see that benefit package :)

Ravyn> Considering your age, that is surprising, though at least she's married first. I just hope she stays married. I remember Kenna telling me about friends she knew in HS already married and some divroced over such a short time period. I think its best to wait until one person has their Bachelors before marrying, plus its good to have a long engagement so you can start saving up. As for kids, well if the couple isn't Catholic, they can wait, if they are, well no one follows that rule anyway ;)

One day, I'll be a father (since I won't be a Father), but I'm glad I won't have to have the kid.

Lexy> I'm glad to see you posting more often. First of all, I don't believe all those tales about cats being harmful to children, though children are hazardous to cats (with exceptions, like Becca is good with cats, according to Christine, though seven is different from two).

How did that legal situation with your brother and father get solved? Are you in Boston, yet? Have you heard from Cherry Blossom in a while? I'll think fo other questions later :)
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau
Saturday, February 23, 2002 03:08:34 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

Ravyn- I AM SO WITH YOU ON THAT! I mean..I hear of ppl my age getting prego..(just heard of another I know a while ago) and..and..I just CAN'T comprehend it. However, I am weird in that I can't comprehend of ANYONE having children. I am..I don't know. I just don't understand. It seems so bizzar *sp* to me. It is so ..normal, but I just can't imagine how ppl can just reproduce, and act like it's no big deal. Just had myself another HUMAN BEING gonna raise it and stuff..no big deal. My God..I don't get it. But anyhow..at that age to. And when you know them for so long! That same person you hung out with..having a baby! So ..SO WEIRD. I am getting married young myself, this next Auguest, and ppl are already pointing out baby stuff at stores and reminding me to save money for kids and not to get too many cats cuz I'll have kids and not to buy that it's unsafe around kids...I MEAN REALLY! ME???? Good God..These ppl freak me out..Ok I HAVE to run. Kai says we are going some where..darn..I will post again later sorry for the run on's with no points ppl!!!
:D

Lexy
Saturday, February 23, 2002 12:08:55 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

Well, don't mind me freakin' out over here, everybody ... I just found out last night that a friend of mine is pregnant.

Now, keep in mind I come from a small town ... I grew up with basically all the same people since elementary school. This girl is one of those people, and she's the first of my old group of friends to be havin' a kid. She was also the first of us to get married, and her wedding last summer was a strange experience for all of us, since although it was a good reason to get together after going our separate ways for college ... it's our *friend* already gettin' *married,* for cryin' out loud. And here she is, already pregnant and havin' kids ...

... now, the thing that really got me was that she told us all (over e-mail) about this, and mentioned that we should quit makin' her feel old and start "tying our own knots" ... AAAAHHHH!!!!!!!

I think I'm having a mid-life crisis at 19, almost 20. I realized I'm expected to grow up sometime soon, but I have *no* plans, plus it's reaaaaally scary to think of all that stuff ... **sighs** Ah, well ... I'll get over it.

But my best friend is having a *kid*, for goodness sakes ... don't get me wrong, I'm happy for her ... but it's *really* freaking me out.

I've responded to this situation in a very mature way ... lots of chocolate, Pepsi, and cartoons. :)

Anyway ... replies!

Jan> <<For Valentine’s Day I bought myself a new diamond ring>> Nice!! :) <<He is of the opinion that he must be held all the time.>> **L** <> Awww ... <<Congrats on the apartment! It sounds wonderful and I’d love to see pictures of it once you’ve moved in!>> Thank you! I'll definitely get some pictures taken as soon as I get it all set up and stuff. ;) It might be a little while, because I don't move until June (after this semester of school is through). :)

Yooper> <> Sweet! Good luck if you do apply. :) I found out how to apply for an internship with the CIA, but you have to apply about 9 months in advance, so that's out for this summer. ;) <> Very cool! :) I loooove toys.

Josh> <<The holy grail, Apple, may be next week>> Oooooh ... :)

Dubble> <<Congrats on the apartment!>> Thank you! It's good to see you around again too. :)

Welcome, Ethan! :)

Robby> <<Southpark the movie>> **L** Good quote ... I *finally* got to see that movie over my winter break ... and I absolutely enjoyed it. :)

Ice Skating> I *really* enjoy it. And I got started on it all because of two very, very lovely words ... *Phillippe* *Candeloro.* mmmmmmm ... anybody else know who I'm talking about??? mmmmm yeah ... :)

Warpmind> My prayers and condolences on your grandfather's passing. :( **hugs**

Coyote> **huggles**
Ravyn
Saturday, February 23, 2002 11:28:17 AM
IP: 150.135.180.226

Warpmind > condolences on your grandfather. Got the e-mails you sent, thanks.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, February 23, 2002 10:40:02 AM
IP: 64.24.187.178

A moment of silence for the late Chuck Jones. A great animator who brought us Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, the animated version of the Grinch, and so much more. We've all seen his cartoons and enjoyed them. No one in the industry could draw like Chuck. WHo could ever forget the Grinch's sly grin, Daffy's flapping beak, and Bug's cool collectivness.

Chuck was 89.
Robby
Saturday, February 23, 2002 09:56:54 AM
IP: 172.141.132.239

Quick response

DAVID G> For the record, I didn't say God was evil. I was simply using it as an example of why Selfishness does not equal evil. I thought it was a good way to prove my point.

Now, whether or not Lucifer is evil, that's an interesting topic, and one I'll save for another time. But no doubt about it, he is the fun one ;)
Greg Bishansky
Saturday, February 23, 2002 08:56:11 AM
IP: 216.179.1.21

Well, that was an interesting interview. Korve (pronounced Core-vee) Engineering, a transportation engineering and land development firm. They're in LA and Oakland, which leaves me with major options when it comes to loctions for the summer. I really do want to be in LA. They pay well too. The only catch is that they have no parking at their offices and I'd be expected to wear a tie every day.

I hate ties. I don't know if I can justify the tie just to make a few extra bucks. Well, a lot of extra bucks, but you get the idea. But the office in LA is a nice plush office, and I have to dress nice. It might be worth it...then again, it might be a pain in the butt.

Broke my religious holiday again and actually did homework, because if I don't I'll be way too far behind. And of course I did the tank thing too.

Saw Queen of the Damned tonight. It was COOL! It was really funny though, the audience was filled with people who were obviously looking for a hip-hop experience because Aliyah was in it...and they hadn't read the books. The soundtrack ROCKED. The movie was really good, but in a corny way. It had some cool effects and even a cool fight scene, cute chicks, and it made fun of goths.

replies

Dubble: Welcome back. <<A friend and I were talking to Josh earlier>>: Sorry about that ;-) <<he asked why I stopped posting and I couldn't actually think of why>>: Rarely have I encountered an actual good reason for not posting. Hell, I post every day and I'm supposed to be a busy engineering student. <>: That's a long trip for you. <<good luck with midterms and interviews>>: Thanks. <<Will be thinking happy thoughts and stuff for you>>: How will I know if they helped or not?

The Wizard: <<never-going-to-get-any-of-my-projects done>>: I feel your pain. <<as I $uck>>: Interesting... <<This ought to be interesting>>: You'll get something. Your stuff is great. <<Talk about massive guilt trip, especially in the afterlife>>: I'm sure he wouldn't be judged harshly. <<a year or so later it'll just be a half-coherent memory>>: Only if she starts drinking heavily. <<Not even natural lubricants?!>>: Why do they have to be natural? <<Could you settle for chocolate-covered VS angels model? My bunny friend is preoccupied with Josh>>: I want to trade! The VS models are cleaner than the bunnies! <<I'm going to make it>>: By borrowing my bulldozers, huh? <<want and getting are two different things>>: Someday that won't be true. <>: Now *this* one I won't touch. <<You're right...even though it's only in about 29 days or something>>: 29? that many?! F*CK. <<Interesting way to refer to your parents..> ? >>: You called your dad a test dummy. <<No easing in, in this case>>: No. This isn't a porn flick, its a torture session. <<My sexual half-life>>: That implies that it decreases as time increases. <<want that d@mned computer that "looks like a sunflower." I really had to think hard>>: I'm surprised it took you more than a second to realize that only Apple would put out a computer that looks like a sunflower ;-) <<then some days you're partial to just one, the left or the right>>>: Every day. <<Hybridization is the key to success>>: I really don't think that's true with computers. I mean, with either Apple or Microsoft, there's the whole "many benefits if you use all our programs" thing. Apple is a *bit* more lax when it comes to the definition of "our programs", but not by much. <>: No, I can't. I've stopped using address book pretty much. I don't use iPhoto or iMovie, and I'd love to stop using mail. <<I'm sure you did well enough to pass (or everyone else did sh!tty enough to flunk>>: Everyone else seems to think they did alright. <<we need library GPS>>: That would be cheap. After that, each state would only be able to afford ONE library. <<Best supporting actor in a multi-acting role>>: Who's the lead actor?

DPH: <<Since this person cares about others more than himself/herself, this person would have morals>>: I fail to see how one follows from the other. <<A completely selfish person would have no qualms about doing anything to anyone>>: That's not true at all. A selfish person might not want to go to jail either. <<an evil person ultimately couldn't trust very many people>>: That's not true either. A typical mistake of evil people is that they assume that everyone else is evil too. But they aren't, which means they can have friends. Nothing about being evil says you can't trust anyone. <<an evil person need not worry about inhibitions or morals>>: And then they'd not only be evil, they'd be incredibly stupid. That's what inhibitions are for. <<Any recommendations on what to pick up to replace my broken potatoe slicer>>: How about a spell checker, Mr. Quayle? <<how is Jarod working off his guilt: counting by years or by lives saved>>: He'll never work off the guilt. He'll be helping people till he dies.

Greg X: <<How can you look at yourself in the mirror?>>: I just stand in front of it and let light do its thing ;-) <<I'm thinking bullets and nerve gas actually.>>: That will work. <<Holy shit, it's the world's biggest tourist trap!>>: And you were right. <<the doomsday device will activate wiping out all life on Earth>>: Very "Spawn the Movie". <<No, I'd call this person a complete retard>>: Yes I'd agree. <<Can't get more selfish than that>>: As opposed to Satan...who wants the exact same thing. <<Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven!>>: I don't think anyone "serves" in Heaven.

Spacebabie: <<3 essays. 2-3 pages each>>: That's it? <>: Is it CR appropriate? <<Why can’t all interviews go like that>>: Because then I'd simultaneously have all job offers in existence ;-) <<God bless the Bell Curve>>: What bell? I just said it was a curve ;-) <<Hey atleast I have an excuse>>: I have an excuse too. It's called a real major. <<Cats lick their whole bodies and then lick your face>>: My cats don't lick my face. It's not very lickable. <<Even a chocolate coverd brussel sprout?>>: Nope. <<whats worse than an idiot customer??? An idiot co worker>>: Fortunately, I have no idiot cow-orkers. <>: Do you spank your monkey?

Warpmind: <<My grandfather died this past night>>: Sorry about that. We seem to have a lot of dead family members lately. <<Does this mean that soon, everyone can get the same pu>>: LOL! <<Yeah, I'd like that icon; please e-mail it>>: It's not gonna run on your machine, sadly. But I do have the JPG file from the picture I took of her artwork. Want that instead?

Shadowrider: <<you use gergal expression just to force me looking in the dictionary>>: No, its because she's an american. <<I've always had a crush on the Siege Tanks>>: I've always been fond of putting tanks on top of hills. <<Are there episoded of Gargoyles that are banned in USA?>>: Some episodes are not played by toon disney. Like "Deadly Force", the one where Elisa gets shot. They also don't play "Upgrade" any more, for reasons I don't know. <<the rating system you use in American schools>>: We grade with letters, A B C D F (F is failing). Then there's +'s and -'s to be more specific. an A- is usually around 90%, C+ is usually around 77% or so, etc. Depends on the curve though. If there is a curve, then the average grade is a C+/B- (depend on the class), no matter what the percentage is.

Green Baron: <<teh way to your heart is through yoru stomach>>: I'll use that to my advantage somehow. <<if God is so merciful>>: Isn't it part of your faith to assume that he is? <<Would you say that about Mother Teresa?>>: No, probably not. <<teh thenardier family from Les Miserables didn't really benefit form their evil ways>>: They were also fools. <>: It depends on who sets it up. <<What is time to an Immortal?>>: Time is that which changes when all else stays the same. <<That sounds too Freudian a reason>>: No, freud would say that you want to have sex with your mother. You have other issues with her. <<How would that change anything?>>: Nevermind. <>: Do you realize how wrong that is? <<You quoted a French philosopher. Now you must bathe>>: Done. <<Other reaosns include Marilyn Manson>>: What wrong with him?

David G: <<Worshiping God is the only way to avoid eternal damnation>>: Says who? God. Sounds kind of silly to me. <<Either way, no puny mortal is going to get the job>>: I am not just ANY puny mortal! ;-)

Brooklyn: <>: stupid question. A site gets as much exposure as you create for it.

Robby: <<Without evil there could be no good so it must be good to be evil sometime>>: I posted that earlier this week, I think. It's very true.

Sevarius Jr: <<Not that I, um, watched the figure skating, because that would be GAY>>: Actually, it'd just mean you were REALLY pathetic. Like, more pathetic than I am. <<I’d do the very same thing he did, if it was my species on the line>>: Well then you're evil too! <<If you define “nice person” as “big asshole”, than yes, you are absolutely correct>>: LOL! Somehow, I think you don't agree with her. <<I’m “f!cked up” evil, Greg’s just “sick” evil>>: I disagree. You're both f*cked up.

Gside: <<you've also got the eastern europeans who've been feeding their women testosterone since conception>>: So? Lesbians watch the olympics too. If *everyone* is barely clothed, then it will give *everyone* something to enjoy...and something to make the vomit ;-) <<Couldn't've been worth much>>: You'd be surprised. Unused soul. <>: I don't think I'd do it again. It looks rather dumb. <<Don't you mean gonads and strife?>>: No. Gonads won't help. Peanuts! <>: Ah, yes. It's so clear to me now. <>: Don't wanna know. <<You skipped on Charlie and the MTA?>>: You posted that!? Are you going through *all* my old camp songs? <<I'll take anything I can get. Heck, you free? And that probably isn't as flattering as it's intended to be>>: I think throwing in the word "heck" made it an insult.

Christine: <<No appetite killer>>:GROSS.

Hmmm, looks like 1AM.

I do not care if he is good, I want to know if he is LUCKY!
-Napoleon

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, February 23, 2002 03:50:18 AM
IP: 64.173.21.63

You know, it's been bugging me and bugging me and I've finally got to say something -- why are they using the Brisco County Jr. music for the Olympics??? Not that I object, but every time I hear it I think of the show ... and Bruce Campbell all scruffy and adorable ... and next thing you know I'm going to have to watch all my episodes again!

So, did anyone else watch the Glutton Bowl? We tuned in for the last hour out of the same low, revolted compulsion that makes people look at car smashes. Trust FOX to remind us that there is no bottom of the barrel ... lordy, lordy ... though on the plus side, it sure did make for a diet aid. No appetite killer quite like watching half a dozen guys eat bowl after bowl of pure mayonnaise ... ::hurk::

Christine
Saturday, February 23, 2002 12:12:50 AM
IP: 64.24.187.56

Imzadi> <<CHIKA BOW BOW!>>: ...bow chika bow.
<<They should require winter olympians to be limited to one piece of clothing covering no more than 10% of the body>>: But you've also got the eastern europeans who've been feeding their women testosterone since conception.
<>: Couldn't've been worth much. And I think that's the first time I typed a double contraction.
<<Peanuts and strife!>>: Don't you mean gonads and strife?
<<In CivE, that's no so impressive>>: But what you don't realize is my approach to studying. I like to have a good handleon what I know and what I don't.
<<No, you're confused. It's "I hate my life">>: I think you're confusing your phrases with my phrases.
<<You mean the world actually survived at one point without cartman's big fat ass?>>: Apparently so, as amazing as it sounds. I know I couldn't go a day without it.
<<This was the first time I ever actually downloaded your song>>: You skipped on Charlie and the MTA?
<<you're right. His version sucks>>: So do you know anyone who does a good version. Johnny Cash isn't much better.

Welcome back Dubble.

Niamhgold> <<Not even natural lubricants?>>: Seeing as how it (or it's like) is usually expected to be said by men, there isn't much lubrication there.
<<Could you settle for chocolate-covered VS angels model?>>: Absolutely. I'll take anything I can get. Heck, you free? And that probably isn't as flattering as it's intended to be.
<<You've got me hooked>>: Woo hoo.
<<So are those more or less powerful than Cucumber Sprites?>>: Depends on the environment. I mean you're pitting meat versus plant here. But on neutral terrritory, I'd go with the Spam Fairy.
<<SMBros Melee, at least>>: Which character do you play. I'm using my ladies, Samus and Peach (I'd go Shiek, but we've already got someone covering her, and it's annoying having two Roys most of the time now).

Welcome Ethan.

Spacebabie> <>: Groin! Actually, how about calf.

Warpmind> Condolences about your grandfather.
<<Didn't keep her from slugging me, though>>: What can you do?
<<f we can't plunder some decent food soon, it's that bleedin' spam again...>>: Either that, or go fishing again. And herring isn't much better.

Shadowrider> <<Are there episoded of Gargoyles that are banned in USA?>>: Deadly Force shows blood. That scares Disney, and don't want it associated with them.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, February 22, 2002 11:56:44 PM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Well, Damn it, Michelle Kwan came in third at the Olympics. Not that I, um, watched the figure skating, because that would be GAY. (Quick, before the p.c. nazis get me, sing along if you will: “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”). Eh, at least an American won, instead of a Russian or a Canadian.

And as an aside about the figure skating, Sasha Cohen is a total babe.

Todd: <<I'm reminded of C. S. Lewis's "Out of the Silent Planet", where the villain of that book is definitely carrying out something that's evil, but not for selfish gain.>> Here’s the thing, though – I’d do the very same thing he did, if it was my species on the line.

Mooncat: <<One can be totally selfish, and still be a nice person.>> If you define “nice person” as “big asshole”, than yes, you are absolutely correct. <<Heck, I'm a totally unashamedly selfish person. But being selfish doesn't make me evil.>> I’m not standing anywhere near you when there’s lightning around. <> I’m proud to be the same way!

Jannie: SJ is a different kind of evil than what Greg is.>> Damn straight! I’m “f!cked up” evil, Greg’s just “sick” evil. <<Greg & SJ – you know I mean this with respect and admiration, right?>> Oh, I take no offense. Evil is the least of the things I’ve been called.

"I go for brains. They're fun to bash out."
---Jim Norton, on his dating habits

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Friday, February 22, 2002 10:54:49 PM
IP: 66.44.64.45

I don't have time to post in full, (do I ever anymore?) but I thought i'd make a quick comment on the good/evil thing...

"What's evil anyhow? Without evil there could be no good so it must be good to be evil sometime..."
-Satan, Southpark the movie
Robby
Friday, February 22, 2002 10:03:06 PM
IP: 172.135.181.41

Hi everyone,

I am writing my own version of Gargoyles: 2198, and I wanted to know if anyone knew a site where it could get THIS kind of exposure?

thanks
Brooklyn - [mango_11_19@hotmail.com]
Friday, February 22, 2002 09:57:00 PM
IP: 4.41.243.40

Actually, I think that evil isn't necessarily dependent on selfishness. A larger factor is the willingness to reject and defy the moral law.

I'm reminded of C. S. Lewis's "Out of the Silent Planet", where the villain of that book is definitely carrying out something that's evil, but not for selfish gain. The villain, a scientist named Weston, has built a small spaceship and heads for Mars in it, planning to establish some sort of Earth-colony there as the first step towards preserving humanity when the Earth becomes uninhabitable (from where it can head off into other solar systems and survive); Mars in Lewis's story is inhabited, and inhabited by other intelligent races, but Weston decides to simply kill them off so that humans can claim the planet. Fortunately, the "governor" of Mars (a sort of archangel placed in charge of it by God when He created the solar system) captures him and sends him back to Earth before Weston can kill more than a few of the Martians. The story makes it clear that Weston is acting on behalf of his race rather than of he himself (he's even willing to sacrifice himself on behalf of humanity), but that what he's doing is still evil in that he's ready and willing to wipe out other races to ensure humanity's preservation.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, February 22, 2002 06:46:36 PM
IP: 63.183.39.239

My comp has been playing games with me..it kept telling me that gargs was last..then I would vote once, and it would be second! *L* But now it says we are first. Is that just my comp giving me a hard time again? Or are we currently ahead of Mononoke? If we are keep voting, cuz that is a tough one to beat, and I must admit, if we came in second to it I wouldn't feel as bad as with some of the others. Thanks again to all the ppl in here voting! I know after years of nothing it is hard to care sometimes, but it is the fans that stick around years after that really impress companies like Disney. They aren't interested in fans that only care for a year or so, then give up. They want to make money. I think this fandom has done an amazing job keeping the show beating. We've got a great team of fans, artists, writers, creators, actors and the like that don't want to see this die. I know a lot of ppl keep posting stuff like (hey..it's just a couple of silly polls) and that may be true. But it isn't like Disney is going to give us an end all be all test. We get lots of little hurtles along the way, and we have to keep stepping up to each plate no matter how minor to show our support:) Thanks for voting ppl! Keep it up!
Lexy
Friday, February 22, 2002 06:19:16 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

Oh joy, the good/evil argument has returned.

Selfless vs Selfish is a pretty good way to start defining Good and Evil. It doesn't go all the way, but it's a start.

Since evil's more fun, let's start with Selfish / Evil:
Selfishness is the root of evil, the starting point. A totally selfless person would have a hard time being evil. He might inadvertantly commit evil actions, but if you averaged his life over time, he wouldn't average out to evil (which is the only useful way to define a person as /being/ good or evil)

Still, being selfish doesn't make you evil. To reach the level of evil, you have to indulge in selfish acts while willingly harming others AND you have to know you're harming others.

Babies are exempt because they don't know any better. In fact, I could argue that babies aren't even SELFISH because they don't know any better, but that's a long, boring argument fraught with great subjectivity.

It's not until a person's selfishnes leads to a general state of harmfulness that that person becomes evil.

Selfishness also isn't the only possible route to evil, or at least it can be burried under so much delusion that it's lost in the white noise.

Now for a very important qualifier:
I believe a person can BE Evil. I believe that in the same way I believe a person can be a grocer, or a tourist, or a political candidate. To one degree or another all those states are transitory. You're only a grocer as long as you work in a grocery store. You're only a tourist while you're on vacation in a "foreign" place (ie. touring). You're only a political candidate while you're running for office...

Similarly you're only evil while you're doing evil things on a continuous basis.

Since most people will admit that Hitler was evil, let's use him as an example.
-Baby Hitler, playing in his crib - not evil.
-Kid Hitler, playing with his friends - not evil - even when he stole little Otto's favorite firetruck. That was one wrong act, but not really very harmful, and not indicitive of little Adolf's general character.
-Student Hitler, failing to master Figure Drawing - not yet evil, but starting on the path.
-Grown Up Hitler, spewing out hatred and bile - evil. He was evil even before he took over Germany, but the scope on which he could do harm was more limited. He was definantly evil while he was trying to take over the world and exterminate the Jews (and don't forget the Gypsies, Homosexuals, and mentally ill).
-Hypothetical Hitler, feeling remorse for the evils he did and trying to make ammends - hypothetically not evil any more. He stopped being evil the same way I would stop being a librarian if I quit working at the library and started working as an advertising copywriter. (Though the moral reprecussions are, perhaps, more profound.)

Now, Greg> God's not evil because he's outside the rules. God is the definition of Good. Everything he does HAS to be good.

Since that's a kind of cheap answer, here's a slightly better one. God isn't selfish for wanting humans to worship him. Worshiping God is the only way to avoid eternal damnation. God doesn't damn you for not worshiping, he saves you if you do.

(Instead of imagining God as the master of the celestial firing squad, imagine him as the captain of a celestial search & rescue mission)

Since he's trying to save everybody, he's not selfish, and therefore not evil.

Also, while it might be better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven (which I would disagree with since Hell is a place of eternal torment for EVERYBODY) the sad fact is all the nhialistic rock stars who said that wouldn't get to rule in Hell. Either Satan rules Hell as a "king in exile" or God does as the warden of an eternal prison.

Either way, no puny mortal is going to get the job. :)
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Friday, February 22, 2002 04:59:24 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

The Green Baron retruns to actually post.

Niamhgold> <<Trick or treat! Yes, I know you all have candy. I'm not so much interested in anything _but_ the candy ;) Chocolates preferred, but I'll also take those Necco heart-thingies, too, and maybe some Nerds and swedish fish and twizzlers and...okay, so I just want candy ;)>>
So teh way to your heart is through yoru stomach. I do recommend Turkish Delight, which si excellent. Funny, who I've wantted to try some since I read The Lion, The Witch, and the Wradrobe back when I was 10. Judging by the ingredients it seems fairly healthy. I ate Turkish Delight and enetred the Hagia Sophia, which I've wanted to see since I was 12. I do not think I have ever enjoyed a triip as much. I now know where I will have my honeymoon and live when I retire if God is so merciful.

Greg X> <<"Valentine's Day is not for hanging out with your mother, it's for spending time with the person you are currently f-cking!".>> My mother is the last person I'd want tos ee on Valentine's Day. I am repulsed by the thought of touching her in any way. As for teh rest of your comme nt, I will agree once I am married and no longer a virgin.

<<Hey, did you see anyone chop the hands off of shoplifters? I think we should do that here. >> Actually, Turkey is not a religiosu state like the rest of the Middle East and Istanbul while the people are 90% muslim does not have such strict punishments. Undoubtedly it is harsher than our prison hotel system, but even capital punishment is rarely enforced over there. However, Istanbul reminded me of NYC, except it was cheaper, cleaner, and much safer. Istanbul's subways are inferior to NYC's, but underground is the Cistern that supplied water to the ancient city at one time and to see that is magical. Being there gave me this feel of otherworldliness, which was enhanced by the music throughout the background everywhere.

<<No, I'd call this person a complete retard.>> Would you say that about Mother Teresa?

As for evil leading to success, teh thenardier family from Les Miserables didn't really benefit form their evil ways.

Los Angeles bid> Well, I want NYC in 03 and Detroit in 04, but after that, I'm game.

Yooper That is sad that Pearl was actually killed. He had a coruage that was admirable, but he knew the risks coming into the job. Still, a pity.

Good and Evil> To me, evil is doing what you know is wrong. Intelligence is really not part of the equation, except when it comes to the impact of your actions. There are perfectly selfish reasons to do the right thing at times.

Jan> I suspect Gatherings will all have their imperfections. I also imagine G01 to be the most expensive.

Mooncat> << Therefore, are babies evil?>> No, but I think a lot of children are, especially from my own childhood experiences.

Well, I think selfish and self-interest are also confused. Self-denial does have a ring fo virtue, but soemoen can grow proud because they are so good at self-denial making them evil, so they lose the point of self-denial, while soem who are a littel greedy and have a few selfish desires are good hearted, humble, and are graeteful for what they have, plus they also think about others as well. I think pride is more a definition of evil than selfishness.

Imzadi> <<Does he really have the time? I'd be too busy fighting lucifer.>> What is time to an Immortal? I also consider micro-management to be evil, an evil that even Greg X would not practice ;)

<<And I think there are people who don't merely to retain the image of religious propriety.>> Well, fo course. Both camps have extremists, but only one side is portrayed as such.

<> That sounds too Freudian a reason.

<<You'd be surprised what that includes, and how fulfilling it can be. >> I don't see how that is fulfilling. A mundane existence may be vital to our existence, buts uch peopel are fodder when they can no longer function. At leats, the cogs in a machine can be recycled. IF they have nothing but their mundane functions and interests, retirement is rather boring and they really have nothing to contribute to teh world. Beisdes, there are things to live for while someone is surviving.

<<They should start by changing their name from "seminary" to something else.>> How would that change anything?

<<Those two sentences are mutually exclusive. >> No scholar is a perfect expert. They can always learn more.

<<No, celibacy drives them to try and get ANYTHING>> They choose celibacy. There is more to life than sex. I sure hope I have children with weaker drives than you (especially when I put chemicals in their food to weaken their dirves considerably).

<<No, it doesn't. You are not a better person, no matter how many times you say it. You just feel better because your religion told you that it was good.>> I feel a sense of inner-peace. You can disseminate logically all you want, it doesn't really matter if its spiritual or the byproduct of my psyche in the long run.

<<This is one thing I fully agree with you on.>> Those seem to be rare :)

<<A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire>>
You quoted a French philosopher. Now you must bathe.

<<No, its named Los Angeles.>> Well, I've never been to Los Angeles, so I can't compare, but from what I do knwo about it, I would draw some comaprisons.

Istanbul--Most expensive city in Turkey, but cheaper than anywhere in the US
Los Angeles> Very expensive to live.

Isatnbul> Has 3000 years of history starting with Byzantium and before. Also a few hours from Mesopatamia (the Northern part is in Turkey).

Los Angeles> How much of the city is more than 50 years old? Well, the Tar Pits have a history, but its not the same.

Istanbul> Buses and Taxis defeat any need for a car, like in NYC.
Los Angeles> A car is essential with hig gas prices to boot.

Istanbul> The Hagia Sophia
Los Angeles> That big HollyWood Sign

Well, I guess its all a matter of opinion,a nd I don't want to put down Los Angeles, espeically since I never lived there, but knowing my preferences, I would probably prefer Istanbul. I'll know for certain when I do visit Los Angeles and I bet no firend can hook me up with a really nice hotel room for $22.00 a night in LA.

Patrick Toman> That song played through my head on the plane ride through there.

Welcome to Claire, Leo, Guardian, and Coma-Man. The CR needs circulation with new members.

Jaden> 14 series. I thought you were ADA. Anything to tell me about Ft Bliss, in case I go there? Once I go JAG, I knwo just where I want to be stationed. Ismir is only a few hours from Istanbul.

All the guys pulling gate guard have been replaced by National Guard crew.

Christine> Such a system is scary, but a necessity at times.

Shadowrider> << Ironically enough, some of the problems between my father and his father were due to similar questions...sometimes, I think my father developed leftist ideas to countersay my grandfather's ideas...>> Funny hwo I do the opposite towards my mother. Questions were never teh problem though. Whenever my motehr had questions on something, her father gave her a book to read.

<> Many of the wealthiest men in the world are divorced. Divorce may be a ok to you, but well, my views on divorce and all that is pretty obvious. I believe if you have greater goals in life than your family, don't have one. Wait until you have fulfilled your other goals, first.

Spacebabie> I bet Jesus still smelled betetr than a Frenchman today.

Warpmind> Well, JWs are one of the reasons why America may deserve to be called the Great Satan. Other reaosns include Marilyn Manson, Ted Kennedy, the Baldwins, Bill Clinton, Pat Buchanan, and the Puriatns :)

SJ> I liked Kevin Smith, too. I always found Ares amusing.

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau
Friday, February 22, 2002 04:37:55 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

Hi people. Just a short post tonight...

Warpmind:> Condolences on your grandfather. :(

Jan:> <<rub it in! >> Admit it, you use gergal expression just to force me looking in the dictionary! ;)
<<no pun intended>> I definitely am happy of it! :)
<<just ruin my fantasy… >> Aww...sorry for it.

Josh:> <> Yeah, Carriers are good, and I usually enjoy a lot using them. But...well, like many who started playing strategy with Dune II (it is eventually a challenge...I really want to know if you ever played it...;), I tend to privilege land units on airborne ones. I've always had a crush on the Siege Tanks...when you manage to take some of those babies just close to the enemy base, and then activate siege mode...but, it is usually difficult to accomplish, so I must sacrifice style to practical considerations...life is so unfair at times...<sighs>
<<Do they play the episodes that are banned here? >> Banned episodes? I knew nothing about it. Are there episoded of Gargoyles that are banned in USA? And why? Anyway, to answer your question, as far as I can see they are rerunning all the episodes of the first two seasons, and so they did in the previous reruns. I am not sure about it, though...usually, transmission times don't allow me to watch it, and I eventually have every episode on tape...
<<All us single people are bitter. >> Hee hee hee...;D

Niamhgold:> <<. I'm flattered that I was asked to help, but I've no idea why, as I $uck, really, as a modeller and 3d animator. I mean, I've really only done flash and 2d stuff. But, hey, anything helps!>> Yeah, yeah, and you are not a good artist, and you are not attractive, and so on. You continue saying so, and you may have your reasons, but if EVERYONE ELSE says the opposite (read: that you are a great artist, a very attractive woman, and so on), maybe there is a reason as well...;)
<< Almost done preparing my portfolio for internships. This ought to be interesting.>> Good luck...although you probably won't need it! :)

Spacebabie:> <> Ehm...I am sorry I am not familiar with the rating system you use in American schools. In Italian universities votes are given on a /30 base, with 30/30 as maximum, and 18/30 as the minimum sufficient. Now, about my Turbines exam, with what I did I won't get anything above 22/30. And, there is an exercise I am doubtful about, it was worth 6 points, if I mistook that, will be a 16/30...anyway, I will know Tuesday.

That's all for now. See everyone.
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Friday, February 22, 2002 04:22:46 PM
IP: 213.213.100.8

Good and Selfish and Evil ---

I don't think selfish equals evil. A baby is very selfish, wants only it's needs met with no thought for others. Therefore, are babies evil?

One can be totally selfish, and still be a nice person. If you get selfish pleasure at being admired and praised, you will out of selfishness do things that people will admire and praise you for. Therefore, if you do good kind and generous actions out of selfishness, are those actions evil?

People want to succeed and provide for themselves the selfish pleasures of life. Cars, houses, lovers, fine food... to selfishly want the best there is, and do fine work and and hard work to obtain those selfish desires, is that evil? Do somehow selfish people not deserve the the benefits of life that their selfish efforts at good grades and good jobs have gotten them?

I want a gargoyle cel. That is a completely selfish desire. Am I evil for wanting a gargoyle cel? Is wanting a gargoyle cel evil? It isn't going to do anyone else a bit of good. It's only outcome is to make me, myself happy (and the seller of the cel richer) -- Evil?

Heck, I'm a totally unashamedly selfish person. But being selfish doesn't make me evil. *^_~* I am evil for reasons that have nothing at all to do with being selfish...

Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Friday, February 22, 2002 04:14:21 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

*Warpmind strolls in, looking grim.*
Hi, gang. I got some rather bad news this morning...
My grandfather died this past night. Granted, he'd been ill most of the past decade, and he suffered a stroke about ten years ago, but... I'll MISS him... *Sniff* Oh, well... Posting time.

Hmmm... Cloned cat... Does this mean that soon, everyone can get the same pu... Nope, not gonna say it, come to think of it... };)

Gside: She did indeed seem to have heard of tentacle monsters before... One clue was that I frankly don't think *any* Norwegian schools have any uniform requirements... Didn't keep her from slugging me, though... :/

Josh: Yeah, I'd like that icon; please e-mail it. And no chainsaw for amputations. I prefer baseball bats. };)

Spacebabie: Oh, thbpthbpthbpt... calamari, my... uh, nevermind. ;) WhatI was about to say might have been a bit too descriptive and wholly inappropriate. ;p

Crzy: Heh, that Palantir joke was good... *Snicker*linked a couple of friends to it; they approved, too. ;)

Gside again: Why vikings like spam so much? Well... *Clears throat* Basically, it's because it's got excellent storage capacities - a single unopened tin can last for generations - and because it boosts morale. Not by magic, but by instilling the following mindset: "If we can't plunder some decent food soon, it's that bleedin' spam again..." ;)

Greg B: Evil will not succeed because Good is Dumb... Good is not Dumb. Good is just incapable of planning ahead. };)

Well, that's about it for now...
Oh, yeah, that's right: if there are any artists interested in doing some illustrations for the story I'm presently working on for Sabledrake, e-mail me? (There be dragons, swordsmen and magicians...)
Warpmind@hotmail.com - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, February 22, 2002 02:47:05 PM
IP: 193.217.242.204

Not much wnet to class yesterday and recieved a big take home assingment. 3 essays. 2-3 pages each. One of them also has to be e-mailed.And next week we have our exam.

Spooky had her stitches removed today. She is recovering nicely.

I pulled another muscle yesterday. You have to guess where.

I also learned something. If your eating a Butterfinger make sure you also have an apple with you. After taking a few bites of the candy take a bite or two of the apple.

The weather sucks right now. It's not cold just wet, stinky and icky.

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Firestorm>>>Sick dude sick. Would you like some fava beans? And don’t you know fresh dead meat is easier to chew than old dead meat.

Josh<<<He was a total nerd, so we spent the entire time talking about lego and building models.>>>Why can’t all interviews go like that?<<<It sucked. I thought I was prepped for it...I mean, how many curveballs can there be when it comes to equilibrium? At least 5, apparently, for that was the number of problems on my exam.>>>Irk, I hate when that happens. I have an exam coming up and I’m going to also study for curve ball questions and extra credit questions.<<<As long as everyone does at least as badly as I did, all is good ;-) >>>God bless the Bell Curve<<>>Hey atleast I have an excuse<<<One of the many reasons I don't have dogs.>>>Cats lick their whole bodies and then lick your face, at least Vixen does.<<>>Even a chocolate coverd brussel sprout?<<<Die or get castrated. They need to be unable to breed afterward.>>>I say go for the castration, Make them suffer. <<<Some d*ck at the ISP decided that my shift was a good time to upgrade the mail server, and I got a billion calls from angry hosting customers (who pay MORE) asking me why they couldn't get their email.
>>>whats worse than an idiot customer??? An idiot co worker<<<Its good that I raked in the bucks (I get $ per call), but I'm a bit stressed because the canned solutions didn't always work and you know how irate people are when they can't get online.>>>I just cuss then play Black and White.

Siryn<<<..lets just say the FURRY residents of this house swiped a POUND of fish while I was defrosting it..>>>Mine do that too. I think nothing is safe since Vixen also likes salad and potato chips.

Shadowrider<<<It is frustrating to me failing exams for just a matter of millimeters, so I strongly hope for the first case... >>>I think I figure what you mean. It will be like this C-/D+ right?

Christine<<<They won't be providing them any food at all this time,>>>Hunt or be hunted <<<or matches, which should make things really fun!>>> Rub two sticks together or use a magnifying glass.

Jan<<<She had her stitches taken out today. She is doing fine. her hair is growing back where they shaved it.

Ethan Gilchrist>>>Welcome to the CR please deposit your sanity in the little jar.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Friday, February 22, 2002 02:12:12 PM
IP: 67.24.17.81

Gotta work tonight, so an early post.

JOSH> <<Alright so maybe I'm not as evil as I used to be>> How can you look at yourself in the mirror? <<All us single people are bitter.>> Yep. <<Republicans are already a club >> Seriously, and a really crappy club. i want to get rid of all them, them and the Democrats. <<Peanuts and strife!>> I'm thinking bullets and nerve gas actually. <<Dude, that is a tourist trap.>> I know, remember my words when we got up there? "Holy shit, it's the world's biggest tourist trap!" <<Next time, I'll drive us somewhere. The $7 for parking will pale in comparision to the extra cost of food on city walk.>> I bet. <> Yeah, i can't to bambi eyes. I expect when I finally do die (unless I become immortal), I will give my slayer one last look of triumphant defiance before I fall off the ledge and am impaled in the middle of a war zone... at which point among my death, the doomsday device will activate wiping out all life on Earth ;).

DUBBLE> Welcome back! <> I hope we get it to, have you seen the bid page?

NIAMHGOLD> <<All I can get right now is your Emmy...but I'll hold out for that Oscar.>> No, the Emmy will do... for now <<"Best supporting actor in a multi-acting role...">> Heh

DPH> <<I'll start by defending the definition of good.>> Okay. <<I'm defining good to be an attitude of complete selflessness.>> Umm, no. <<Since this person cares about others more than himself/herself, this person would have morals. >> No, I'd call this person a complete retard. <<I'm defining evil to be completely selfish.>> So that would make God evil since he wants us all to worship him and praise him, and live our lives for him. Can't get more selfish than that ;) <<The more selfish you are, the less morals you have.>> Heh heh, yeah! <<A completely selfish person would have no qualms about doing anything to anyone.>> That's true, I don't. But I look at the big picture so I don't betray people on a whim, cause you never know when you'll need them later. I'm smart to. <<Sooner or later, said person would want to personally rule the world,>> Yeah, I do. And when I do, I shall eradicate good wholesome family values, cause they suck ass! <<by whatever means necessary.>> Yep <<Said person would then have anyone threatened his control killed.>> Not necessarily, I'd try to find a way to make them my pawns without them knowing it. <<That's how I arrive at being completely selfish makes you evil.>> You're still wrong though. << honestly, if you believe in an afterlife where you are judged for your actions, then there is a difference between being good and evil.>> Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven! <<If you don't, here's a difference: a good person is more likely to helped up when he is fallen than an evil person.>> Ummm, no. Do you watch the news at all!? Do you understand human nature at all?! If the average person can only save the life of a good poor man or a rich evil man, they'll save the rich evil man. <<more thing, a good person would probably have a lot more friends and closer friendships than an evil person because an evil person ultimately couldn't trust very many people>> You're still wrong, I have quite a few good close friends, and I'm evil. The good people I knew going through life were mocked at and picked on in school and had no friends. <<On the other hand, an evil person need not worry about inhibitions or morals.>> This is correct, I'll give you that. But dude, take a look at humaity around you, your reasoning makes no sense

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
Greg Bishansky
Friday, February 22, 2002 02:05:58 PM
IP: 216.179.1.21

Site update -- new pic in the Gallery, new original fic naughty story about elves, other minor news and stuff. Clickie or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html

Busy busy, hopefully more to say later!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, February 22, 2002 02:03:44 PM
IP: 64.24.214.188

**Defense of my definition of good and evil**
I'll start by defending the definition of good. I'm defining good to be an attitude of complete selflessness. Since this person cares about others more than himself/herself, this person would have morals.

I'm defining evil to be completely selfish. The more selfish you are, the less morals you have. A completely selfish person would have no qualms about doing anything to anyone. Sooner or later, said person would want to personally rule the world, by whatever means necessary. Said person would then have anyone threatened his control killed. That's how I arrive at being completely selfish makes you evil.
**end my defense**

GXB - honestly, if you believe in an afterlife where you are judged for your actions, then there is a difference between being good and evil. If you don't, here's a difference: a good person is more likely to helped up when he is fallen than an evil person. One more thing, a good person would probably have a lot more friends and closer friendships than an evil person because an evil person ultimately couldn't trust very many people. On the other hand, an evil person need not worry about inhibitions or morals.

Jan - what I probably end up doing is taking a good day to physically verify that the book I am looking for is not physically in the library. Once that issue is settled, I will be inclined to ask when the book I am looking for was last checked out - deep down I believe the book is either overdue or checked out and the software does not know it. The easy way to check the latter theory out is to check out a book (I have to find a book that the library has only 1 copy of) and later see if the computer system lists that same book as available. If it does, I'll complain.

I'll be mad if the book was checked out, but some moron keeps renewing it over the phone. If you are going to check out a book for more than 2 months, you might as well buy the book.

Niamgold - <Ooh, we need library GPS> What building has the most stories in it? The library. Seriously, it only costs $5 to equip each book/video/whatever with a homing device of some sort. Let's multiply the cost out by 1 million+ books and you see the problem with theory.

Imzadi - <Well, the more I think about my structures test, the more I think I failed it.> I do better on harder math problems than easier ones.

::Disappears off to get some hot chocolate and then reappears::

I broke my potatoe slicer a couple of days ago. It belonged to my grandmother on my dad's side. I am looking to replace it. I bought a salad chooter and discovered it was too small to handle small potatoes so I will have to take it back. Any recommendations on what to pick up to replace my broken potatoe slicer.

Niamgold - <Talk about massive guilt trip,> So how is Jarod working off his guilt: counting by years or by lives saved? BTW, Jarod has compromised morals because he believes the ends justify the means. Afterall, think about how many times he has broken laws to help people. I still think Jarod could be doing more to help people: his own task force. However, I'm sure Jarod wouldn't like it being stuck in an office all day long.

David G - <Running late would be nice, but it's not really an option. You've got to pay those people, and most libraries don't have the manpower budget to do so. Libraries don't usually have big budgets, and they don't have total control over how they spend what money they do get.> You're right. If they managed to get increased funding, the patrons would probably demand the library increase its hours available to patrons rather than spending the time doing inventory. It's shame that they wouldn't understand the value of doing inventory of the books every once in a while.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, February 22, 2002 01:25:42 PM
IP: 204.94.193.32

Hi all. Just wanted to intro myself cuz I'll be darkening your doorstep for a while. Been into the series since it first aired although I trailed off shortly after the Avalon World Tour. Anyway, I've got a LOT of reading to catch up on! I'll get to it!
Ethan Gilchrist - [Ethan@randominformation.com]
New York, NY, United States
Friday, February 22, 2002 01:10:41 PM
IP: 24.168.17.14

Jan>> re: Spam song> Mind if I pass that one along to my hubs? He and my Webelo are off to Camporee next weekend.

Garg related news:
Edward Asner, whose many television and film roles include the voice of J. Jonah Jameson in Fox Kids' Spider-Ma animated series, will receive the 38th Life Achievement Award at the Screen Actors Guild Awards on March 10.
Spike
Friday, February 22, 2002 09:54:37 AM
IP: 64.216.238.58

** Niamhgold enters **

Ooh, goody, Dubble's back :)

There's actually not much going on around here (again), except for the usual, incredibly stressful, never-going-to-get-any-of-my-projects done ever stuff. I'm hoping that tonight's 3D user's group meeting is exciting enough. We've got a medical project that Hopkins wants finished, and I've been scrambling to get up to par with one of my better partners in the project. I'm flattered that I was asked to help, but I've no idea why, as I $uck, really, as a modeller and 3d animator. I mean, I've really only done flash and 2d stuff. But, hey, anything helps!

Almost done preparing my portfolio for internships. This ought to be interesting.

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DPH: <Note: I'd still like to know how many people died because of what Jarod thought up> A darn lot, that's for sure. Talk about massive guilt trip, especially in the afterlife.

Aingeal: <anyway.... life goes on.. i'm living.... tho i dont have a life.. go figure> Whoo, it looks like you're going through one of those "tough patches" that people go through every now and then. Deep breaths, you'll make it through, and a year or so later it'll just be a half-coherent memory. :: hugs :: Take it easy!

Gside: <And after that is the piledriver and 16 feet of curare-tipped wrought-iron fence _and no lubricants_.> OH MY GOD OUCH. Not even natural lubricants?!? <Hey, I need it much more desparately than him> Could you settle for chocolate-covered VS angels model? My bunny friend is preoccupied with Josh. <But where are you going to find any flat land in NH> I'm going to make it ;) <Any kind of M&M you desire> You've got me hooked <Spam fairies> So are those more or less powerful than Cucumber Sprites?

Dreamie: Hey there! :: Hugs :: <Mine's a 12 by 12.... and man.. you're getting a 12 by 17?> Well, want and getting are two different things ;) <Josh dont touch that comment ^_~)> Sadly, I was going to touch that comment, too ;) And I doubt it would fit on my lap, either....urh, whatever ;)

Susej: <All evidence to the contrary> But I live for hipocrasy. <Isn't it a bit early to start worrying about Spring Break? ;-)> You're right...even though it's only in about 29 days or something ;) <Starcraft!> Well, Soul Caliber and SMBros Melee, at least. <Interesting way to refer to your parents..> ? Ah. No easing in, in this case. <I'd rather have the latter. I'd never eat the former...then again, I probably wouldn't eat the latter either ;-)> Well, maybe... <And dropping, apparently> My sexual half-life. <Yes I am. But you already knew that> Heh. Yeah, you're right. I did. I think that's the whole "great minds think alike" thing. <Of course, obviously most artists don't think they're ugly as sin, which leads to the logical conclusion: you aren't normal ;-)> Mmm hmm. And my other, more aesthetically-concerned friends want that d@mned computer that "looks like a sunflower." I really had to think hard, and then realized their talking about that stupid add. Or something. Ugh. <Damn straight! > *L* <Want...> Maybe I'll just ask my mom. <I'm gonna do similar to SF.> I remember. <No, but BANANAMAN can! > LOL <because sometimes you feel like a nut. Then again, sometimes you don't.> And then some days you're partial to just one, the left or the right. <Supposedly all of microsoft's stuff is supposed to work really well together. So if you're gonna go with one, aren't you gonna go with them all? Isn't that the whole point?> No. Hybridization is the key to success. And I can't be monogamous with Microsoft. And I don't even think *you* could have a monogamous relationship with Apple. <Well everyone think happy thoughts. I need a job this summer!> Considering you have a Korve interview today, it's still valid when I reply, "I'm thinking happy thoughts" :) And don't worry about that structures Midterm...I'm sure you did well enough to pass (or everyone else did sh!tty enough to flunk.

David G. <The computer has no way of knowing its physical location beyond "in" or "out" (not strictly accurate, but close enough for our purposes)> Ooh, we need library GPS ;)

Greg: <I'm an actor and I wasn't informed? Wow, I must be good. Where's my Oscar nomination?> All I can get right now is your Emmy...but I'll hold out for that Oscar. "Best supporting actor in a multi-acting role..."

Adios, gang!
Niamhgold
Friday, February 22, 2002 08:18:29 AM
IP: 206.41.204.144

Hey all! A friend and I were talking to Josh earlier and he asked why I stopped posting and I couldn't actually think of why, so I figured I'd try get in the habit again. *L* I haven't managed too well so far, but hey. ;)

Just random things as I think of them..*L*

G2003 NYC bid>I really hope you guys get it, I would love to go to a gathering in NYC. Hee! ^_^

Ravyn>Congrats on the apartment! ^_^

Si>*hugs* O_o Yikes, hope you get everything done okay...
And it's such a shame that 'cat ate my homework' excuse is so over used. Cuz when it's true, no one believes you! ;)

Jan>I peeked at the picture ages ago, and Zach is so cute! Much belated congratulations. ^_^

Josh, good luck with midterms and interviews. Will be thinking happy thoughts and stuff for you. ;)

I really can't think of anything else to say, so I'll stop there. *L* And go tidy up the house abit. TTFN!
Dubble
Friday, February 22, 2002 04:19:30 AM
IP: 195.92.67.75

Well, the more I think about my structures test, the more I think I failed it. That is not good (TM).

Today was a lousy night at work. Some d*ck at the ISP decided that my shift was a good time to upgrade the mail server, and I got a billion calls from angry hosting customers (who pay MORE) asking me why they couldn't get their email. Its good that I raked in the bucks (I get $ per call), but I'm a bit stressed because the canned solutions didn't always work and you know how irate people are when they can't get online. So I got NO work done tonight.

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Siryn: <<do you think my professor would accept the excuse.."The Cats ate my homework?">>: I'm guessing...no? <<every year would be my last convention>>: Why would you want to stop going? <<And lesse..I've got>>: Is that all? ;-) <>: And while you're at it, make me some pie! ;-) <<I've already paid off the hotel..not turning back now>>: Good point. I'll just have to keep hoping.

Shadowrider: <<a 5 hours written test>>: YUCK! I'm sorry about that. <<if I passed, I did with a very narrow margin. If I failed, the same>>: Sounds familiar. <<anytime you lose, then you are alone>>: Not when it comes to curved exams! <<how he could beat everyone with his eyes blindfolded and his hands tied in his back, and how everyone else's strategies were lousy and useless and consequently everyone used them was a looser>>: I had a great time with reevers the other day, but I still find that Carriers win the day more often than not. <<Here in Italy, we were able to force Disney Channel to rerun the first two seasons>>: Do they play the episodes that are banned here? <<my girlfriend has a different program for tonight>>: CHIKA BOW BOW!

Christine: <<will actually let family members be in attendance when they shove you in the fire>>: Now that is scary stuff. <<give us all time to recover>>: From what? From an awesome four days in LA? Or from the police? <<No matter how Greg makes Bambi-eyees at you>>: Which greg, and aren't bambi eyes the ones where you open them really wide right before you get hit by a car? <<there's just nothing to leer at when they're all in snowsuits>>: You are absolutely right. They should require winter olympians to be limited to one piece of clothing covering no more than 10% of the body. Then we'll ALL get ours ;-)

Ravyn: <<does any other college student in here have to apply with the college your major is in for "Advanced Standing" to take upper-division classes>>: Uh, no. Berkeley doesn't care. Supposedly, you only take UD classes when you're either at least a junior or you have at least 60 units, but no one checks. <<Congrats on the cool interview!!! Rock on.>>: I plan to. The holy grail, Apple, may be next week. <>: NICE! I am jealous! <<Ohhhh ... okay" after I mention what it is>>: What I don't understand is how people don't know what a civil engineer does. I mean, the name itself should give enough of any idea. <<Been doing that, believe me>>: Yeah, its a pain. it takes weeks for anyone to get back to you.

Yooper: <>: I probably should take one of those before I graduate. <<the kidnapped Wall Street Journal journalist>>: Why would anyone kill a journalist? <<Spent six and a half hours taking strain measurements>>: Ooh I can't wait for that one. <<Bombed my Geotech exam yesterday>>: My geotech class is a lot of fun. I anticipate doing well. <<You know it's bad when your answer to a 20-point question is "I don't recall how to do this problem.">>: Ack! Write something! Make something up! <>: I've never worn a suit to an interview. And I don't think I'm any less likely to get the job than the shell-of-an-engineer chingrish-mumbling freaks that populate the engineering programs here. I don't think that an engineer should care about the way that he dresses, because his mind should be on more important things. Fortunately, I've been interviewed mainly by engineers. <<get asked stupid and intrusive questions by someone you don't know>>: I get asked about lego. <<I'd be analyzing roll cages and stuff>>: THAT would be sweet! Where are they? <<Looking at the list of majors the companies were looking for, they were either all engineering, technology, or surveying>>: They wouldn't bother showing up to a school with "tech" in the name if it were otherwise. <<My structures class doesn't have exams, just a quiz every Friday. The lowest three get dropped>>: Lucky devil. I learned that my midterm is only 17.5% of my grade, so if I kick ass for the rest of the semester I should be fine. <<I'm being initated right now>>: I think I'll pass.

Jan: <<He is of the opinion that he must be held all the time>>: Is his a girl or a boy? ;-) <<Zach should be potty trained by next month.>>: "Talk about anal. What, were you toilet trained at gunpoint or something?" <<it helps them to get to know the *real* you instead of the *interviewing* type you>>: That's the real joke. I don't change ANYTHING for interviews. I want them to want me for *me*, not for some facade. I dress a bit nicer, but the nicest clothes I have up here is a pair of chutes and a dress t-shirt. I love sitting in the waiting room with 15 kids all applying for the same engineering job wearing suits and ties and dress skirts. I know they're looking at me thinking "he doesn't have a prayer". But I look at them and think "they're trying to cover up the fact that they suck". <<if this person is really good at his job, he probably found out more about you and your potential by chatting about such things as legos>>: That's the plan! <<Anyway, I wish you the best>>: Thanks. <>: The good news is that United will probably avert the strike, and after that I really don't care that they gouge me. They can have their money. I just want my well-deserved vacation. <<it looks like it will be a royal pain in the arse to get to and from the airport>>: If I went, I would make a trip out to see someone else and drive down/up depending on where I was. <<that could apply to sooo many people! *looks around the room>>: Like me, I know. <<sounds like my sex life>>: Ditto. That's how I get an entire hard drive filled with dirty movies. <>: I think you have to be wary of the flipside of that...at least the con isn't at a hotel that's NEXT to the airport. That wouldn't be much better. <<It still cost me less money to rent the car in LA than the price difference of flying into Burbank instead of LA International>>: Really? That's rare. I guess it depends on where you come from too. I know that OAK-BUR is much cheaper than SFO-LAX. <<and the Gatherings be more “attendee-friendly” in aspects such as convenience, affordability, etc>>: I think I"d have to agree. This is supposed to be "by fans for fans", right? Well we should remember that fans aren't loaded. If they were, they'd be busy doing other things. <<We in the Midwest need a break every once in a while>>: Yeah but no one on the coasts wants to go there! ;-). But hey, you could do a bid for BF, Texas some day ;-) <<the only person that I’ve met so far that has truly pulled off the “evilness” persona is Greg B>>: I resent that. Alright so maybe I'm not as evil as I used to be. But I can take on anything SJ can. <<oh yeah fine… rub it in>>: All us single people are bitter. <>: Republicans are already a club ;-) <<For Valentine’s Day I bought myself a new diamond ring>>: I sold my soul.

Greg X: <<A space station is quite expensive. I don't know, I can think of a much cheaper solution to this problem>>: Peanuts and strife! <<And it isn't City Walk. $10 for two slices of pizza and a soda for crying out loud!>>: Dude, that is a tourist trap. Next time, I'll drive us somewhere. The $7 for parking will pale in comparision to the extra cost of food on city walk. <<I'd love to go back to LA in 2005. Hell, I'd love to go back anytime>>: Good. If more people think like you, they will come bacck here. <<I'm going to assume you're talking about Greg W here>>: I have a hard time picturing you making bambi eyes, unless its the "deer caught in headlights" look. <<Josh is going to flame you>>: Yup ;-)

Gside: <<Even managed to answer all the questions>>: In CivE, that's no so impressive. Its easy to answer them all, because the concepts are so simple. Of course, getting them right is a different matter altogether. <>: No, you're confused. It's "I hate my life". <>: I remember an episode of TV Funhouse with the same premise. <<you have more exposed tender bits>>: Perhaps, but in fighting dirty I learned to protect them. Besides, I'm fast. <>: You mean the world actually survived at one point without cartman's big fat ass? <<I'm not sure if I like his version>>: This was the first time I ever actually downloaded your song, and you're right. His version sucks.

Alright, interview tomorrow at Korve. That should be interesting.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, February 22, 2002 03:01:23 AM
IP: 64.173.21.63

Survived the DSP exam this morning. Even managed to answer all the questions.

Imzadi> <<Any relation to the Grateful?>>: It's about the same thing since three years into it.
<<My structures labs are three hours, and when you leave you still aren't done!>>: I think the proper phrase for times like these is "ha ha."
<<You think he's 5'10", but he's really only 6 inches tall>>: That must be fun. I remember a hentai manga with about the same premise.
<<I've never fought fair in my life>>: But they also have the option of not fighting fair. And you have more exposed tender bits.
<<Not big enough! It's never big enough!>>: You've still got to be able to read the text.
<<They stuff them up cartman's butt?>>: Back in olden times, I think it was the icehouse.
<<WOOHOO! Great song>>: Thanks, but I'm not sure if I like his version. It seems a bit too jovial.

Siryn> <<I'm cooking Fish and Chips (cause well, I'm british) for Minority Group Relations class>>: You're supposed to serve it in a sheet of yesterday's newspaper, right?

David G.> <>: Ah. Carry on then.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, February 22, 2002 01:01:47 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

RAVYN> <<my apologies, my mistake.>> It's alright.

DPH> <<Before I can answer this question, I have to have your definition of good and evil.>> Evil = Fun. Good = Dumb. You'd be better off with your own definition than mine. <<Stupid question: which ship would win in the battle of a White Star vs the Defiant?>> Well, the White Star was designed to fight the Shadows, the Defiant was designed to fight the Dominion. Definetly the White Star. <<Are you part of Wilek's conspiracy to take over the world?>> Nope. <<If not, I humbly request my own space station as a place to send all people who insist on doing good. That way, you will not have to deal with people like me. >> A space station is quite expensive. I don't know, I can think of a much cheaper solution to this problem ;) <<where do you find such stories? >> Read the news, this stuff is easy to find.

JOSH> <<A man with his priorities so far out of whack does not deserve a price like the planet.>> Sauron never appears in person in the books, so we don't know what his priorities are. All I know is that during the War of the Ring, he doesn't leave Barad-dur, he's a rich and powerful lord, he's gotta have concubines. And he's got the coolest minions... I want my own Nazgul. <<You and I think alike.>> You and Jen!!! It's a sign of the end of days. <<And I'm sure we'll all be one big happy family too.>> We'll be something, I can guarantee that. <<YES! Now, is voting online yet or do I have to use the phone?>> Phone of course. <<Ooh good call! You just earned yourself the position of "Evil Overlord Advisor" when I take over.>> Cool. <<Sure it is. You just have to know where to shop.>> And it isn't City Walk. $10 for two slices of pizza and a soda for crying out loud! <> i want her every day. Not just for my birthday <<Only if I show up. Will this one be four days? Or is there not enough stuff to fill four days?>> Not sure yet. I'd like a four day con, but it all depends. <<Spoiled brats, for instance.>> Like my young cousin.

SIRYN> <<Who knows..I've said like..for 3 years I think? That every year would be my last convention..and now look, i'm RUNNING the bloody thing! (pardon my language.. *slaps wrist*) ~_^ Hehe.. >> WHat language. But yeah I know how it is. A couple years ago, I didn't see myself trying to host one eventually, but I met the right people, was inspired by G2001 and the rest is history. For the record, I think you're doing a great job organising G2002, and I am greatly looking forward to it

CHRISTINE> <<2005.>> 2005 eh? I'd love to go back to LA in 2005. Hell, I'd love to go back anytime. <<No matter how Greg makes Bambi-eyes at you.>> I'm going to assume you're talking about Greg W here

JAN <<Evilness: in my humble opinion, the only person that I’ve met so far that has truly pulled off the “evilness” persona is Greg B.>> Why thank you? Out of curiosity, what brought you to that conclusion? <<Everyone else just seems to be evil-wannabe’s.>> Josh is going to flame you. <<SJ is a different kind of evil than what Greg is.>> In some ways yes? <<Greg & SJ – you know I mean this with respect and admiration, right?>> You do?! Well, thanks again... I guess ;)
Greg Bishansky
Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:10:42 PM
IP: 216.179.1.21

Rayvn> Zach is perfect! Thanks for asking :) He’s smiling a little bit now and sometimes he even coo’s. hehe He is becoming a bit spoiled, though… seems as if he thinks that it’s a bad thing to be left in the baby bed, baby swing, etc. He is of the opinion that he must be held all the time. *L* I could swear he said, “nana” the other day! He’s brilliant *nods* Michael has decided that Zach should be potty trained by next month. *L*
I wouldn’t worry with entertaining the visiting toddler. I never did – that’s the parents’ job ;) Just make sure that things that you don’t want the toddler to play with or break is put away until they leave.
Congrats on the apartment! It sounds wonderful and I’d love to see pictures of it once you’ve moved in!

Josh> congrats on having an interview! Sometimes just chatting like that is better than a formal interview – it helps them to get to know the *real* you instead of the *interviewing* type you. Also, if this person is really good at his job, he probably found out more about you and your potential by chatting about such things as legos, etc. Anyway, I wish you the best =) Good luck fighting with AA too. I hate dealing with the airline companies.
I just checked on flights to Norfolk and right now it has increased over $100 from the last time I checked. $385 to fly there from here. Eesh. I’m not sure if I’m going to be able to make it this year or not. Not only the higher flight costs, but it looks like it will be a royal pain in the arse to get to and from the airport. *sais* Hopefully the cost of the flights will decrease when we get into the summer rates.
<<They need to be unable to breed afterward.>> ohboy, that could apply to sooo many people! *looks around the room* ;p
<<You weren't clicking hard enough>> sounds like my sex life O.o

For future Gatherings: My one biggest complaint is the lack of transportation to and from the Gathering hotel/airports. Last year in LA, it was necessary for me to rent a car for the weekend and if I attend this year, that’s beginning to look like I’ll have to do the same again. That’s an additional $100-$150 expense, plus the hassle of driving in an area that I’m unfamiliar with in a strange car. i.e. I don’t like it. I really do think that this issue should be an important factor to consider when making the decision on future locations. Flying into a smaller airport that is closer to the location is not always the most economic either. It still cost me less money to rent the car in LA than the price difference of flying into Burbank instead of LA International.
I’d rather see less fluff and sparkle and the Gatherings be more “attendee-friendly” in aspects such as convenience, affordability, etc.
I’m not complaining (too much) about the past and almost current Gathering – but this is only a suggestion for future Gatherings to consider =)

Also, it would be nice if the Gatherings would be more centralized on occasional years. I’m planning on attending the Detroit Gathering – if they receive the bid – but going to one coast or the other is becoming very expensive. We in the Midwest need a break every once in a while!

Gside> hehe, when I went thru the Scoutmastership Fundamentals training a few years ago, we were the Spam Patrol. Our patrol song was:
Spam in the morning
Spam in the evening
Spam at suppertime
We eat so much Spam
We’re always in the can.
Ok, ok, not the best song – but we only had a few moments to come up with it ;) Our patrol flag had a can of spam at the top of the flagstaff too. Never did eat any Spam that weekend, though. I don’t eat Spam. It’s made of “by products” – not sure what “by” the products actually are. O_O

Patrick> heh, I remember the key top openings! Man, those things sucked!! If you broke any part of it while opening, you were… well…. you went hungry because there was no other way of opening it. =\ Other can goods had this type of opening, but I believe Spam was probably the most noted one.

Evilness: in my humble opinion, the only person that I’ve met so far that has truly pulled off the “evilness” persona is Greg B. Everyone else just seems to be evil-wannabe’s. SJ is a different kind of evil than what Greg is.
Greg & SJ – you know I mean this with respect and admiration, right?

DPH> good idea on the library’s dilemma! Will you be volunteering your time to do this for your local library? :) I don’t mean this to sound sarcastic, though. I’m sure they really would appreciate any assistance that you would be willing to offer.

SJ> I’ve been hearing the story about the “misplaced” bodies in GA. I think that Fire Storm was planning a family reunion ;)

Skippy> wow! I’m totally impressed with the comics!

Shadowrider> yeppers, I noticed the other Garg votings and I clicked clicked clicked :)
<<but my girlfriend has a different program for tonight...>> oh yeah fine… rub it in! (no pun intended) ;) just ruin my fantasy… *sais* ;p

Spacebabie> how is your cat doing? I had my 2 cats spayed last week. They seem to be doing fine and recovering nicely.

Christine> yeah, I’m really anxious to see the new Survivor =D
I don’t mind the Olympics except that all of the other networks are showing re-runs during this time.
I was glad to see that the Canadians received the gold medal that they deserved, though. I got tired of hearing about it afterwards – but then again, it’s not often that Canadians have something to actually brag about ;)

However, as I’ve watched the female singles in figure skating – the Canadian gal seemed to be sluggish and even fell once. The Italian gal was awesome and even though she had a slight slip (not a complete fall, though) she was very energetic and graceful. So far, I’ve enjoyed her the most.
This is the first night I’ve watched any of the Olympics.

Our Worthy Matron of the Eastern Star chapter was found in her home dead. She had been dead approx. 4 days before being discovered and she was still in her bed…. Under an electric blanket that was still on. Not a pretty sight. The family had to have her body cremated. She was such a nice lady and I had just spent some time with her last Tuesday at the meeting while she was giving me my instructions.
I went to school with one of her daughters and we were both in Rainbow Girls.

I joined the Republican Club today =)
Tomorrow I’m signing up for the CERT in our area. (Emergency response team) Yeah, I’m in a “sign up” mood.

Good luck to all taking finals and to those who have just finished up with them. I know how stressful all of this can be.

Our “drug cop” is still waiting for his county vehicle and has been making jokes about riding a bicycle around. This weekend, I’m going to get a bike out of the impound yard, add a kiddie horn and one of those bicycle bells, use the duct tape to attach a flashlight and if I can find a toy siren, I’ll be putting that on the handlebars. Hehe The sheriff laughed when I told him what I was going to do ;)

A moment of silence for Daniel Pearl.

For Valentine’s Day I bought myself a new diamond ring =)

Ok, time for nighty night.

“You will become part of me or you will be of the void”
~ Transformers~
Jan
Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:59:10 PM
IP: 12.110.236.35

Pressed the return key by accident, and posted half of my nick. Oh well.

Sorry I haven't posted in a week or two. Midterms started here, and I have my last one (construction engineering) tomorrow.

Hmmmm. I have lots of messages in my inbox...which are dated around the 11th. Dammit, the mail system here takes hours to send messages already. Is it gonna take 10 days to get my frickin' messages now?

According to MSN, Danny Pearl, the kidnapped Wall Street Journal journalist, was killed by his captors. I think we're gonna have to have some commandos visit some Islamic extremist kidnappers in the dead of night and "tuck them in permanently." (Credit Dennis Miller)

Just got out of the lab. Spent six and a half hours taking strain measurements. The first half of this was spent in a 95-degree (F) environment chamber. I'm glad to be done with that.

Bombed my Geotech exam yesterday. You know it's bad when your answer to a 20-point question is "I don't recall how to do this problem."

MTU had its job fair on Tuesday. It's yielded one interview so far, with Wiss, Janney, and Elstner, who I'd like to work for. OPne of the others interviewed beat me out for a research assistantship already. I love interviews. You put on a suit, and get asked stupid and intrusive questions by someone you don't know. Anyway, I don't think I got the job. Maybe I can get an internship with another firm, or with Caterpillar. That'd be pretty cool. According to the guy they had at the job fair, I'd be analyzing roll cages and stuff.

On to replies!!

DPH>><<The most objective definition of evil I like is being completely self-centered. The most objective definition of good I like is being completely selfless.>>I dunno if I like that definition. One of the problems us conservatives have with liberal policies isn't that we think the policies are proposed to be selfish, we think the policies either make the problem worse, create other (worse) problems, or both. "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions" is the best way to put it, I guess.

Ravyn>><<You drop the word "engineer" around half the companies that came to campus today, and you get absolutely *loaded* with free stuff and information booklets.>> At Michigan Tech, if you aren't an engineer, the companies won't even consider you. Looking at the list of majors the companies were looking for, they were either all engineering, technology, or surveying. <<Today, my top freebie rating goes to the U.S. Army>> Awww, the only Army officer we had there was from the Defense Intelligence Agency, and they didn't have any toys. I found out how to apply for an internship with DIA, though, and might apply next fall. I got a slinky from a design firm in my area though.

Revel>> *laughs* I think everyone I know at this college fits in there somewhere. That's going on my door.

Josh>><> Ouch. My structures class doesn't have exams, just a quiz every Friday. The lowest three get dropped. <<Chi Epsilon>> I'm being initated right now. Polishing this *#(#$(&* key is a pain in the @$$. You also have to do some community service project.

Off to finish get a structures cheat sheet, then finish my structures homework.
Yooper
Houghton, MI
Thursday, February 21, 2002 09:00:24 PM
IP: 141.219.84.191

I'll be posting a TGS CR Information update within the next few days. Delays are due to RL (involving the things FS mentioned) and that I've been MAJORLY renovating the CR Info pages.

lain: Emailed ya!

Ravyn: Thanks for the hugs. **hugs back**

More later.
Lady Mystic - [lady-mystic@usa.net]
Thursday, February 21, 2002 08:48:39 PM
IP: 216.254.103.139

LADY MYSTIC AND/OR FIRESTORM!!!!!!

HELP HELP!!!! I HAVE A *VERY* URGENT QUESTION!!!!!

please please please contact me by IM (if you can) as soon as you can! AOL address: lurkingfish@yahoo.ca

THAAAANNNKKK YOOOOOOOUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lain
Thursday, February 21, 2002 08:29:36 PM
IP: 64.228.199.78

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Yoo
Thursday, February 21, 2002 08:25:53 PM
IP: 141.219.84.191

College question> Okay, does any other college student in here have to apply with the college your major is in for "Advanced Standing" to take upper-division classes, or anything like that? Because I decided I'd get that out of the way for me today ... but of course, I picked the day that the secretary was out sick. :( So I ended up trying to apply with my advisor ... who is a very nice, but very lost older fellow, totally dependent upon this efficient secretary who's not there for the day ... we spent a long time just looking around for the form I'd have to fill out! Hopefully I did everything right, but who knows ... I might check back and see if the secretary got it in a week. ;)

Josh> Congrats on the cool interview!!! Rock on. :) <> Ouchies ... sorry. <<As long as everyone does at least as badly as I did, all is good>> Got that right!!! I got a 45% on my first Thermodynamics test, but since everyone else did so badly, that ended up being a solid B! :) <<Everyone's an engineer over here.>> Ha ha! ;) I still get that nice question, "What's your major?" from people I meet, followed by the traditional, confused "Ohhhh ... okay" after I mention what it is. ;) <<Just go to a bunch of websites and start emailing people with your resume.>> Been doing that, believe me ... :( <<Just make sure you get out every once in a while.>> **chuckles** Okay. ;)

Well, off to do Thermo homework ... ;)
Ravyn
Thursday, February 21, 2002 07:25:18 PM
IP: 150.135.180.226

That crematorium story is one I've been following in the paper out of the spirit of pure ghoulishness. Wow, and all this time I've wanted to be cremated when I go rather than left to rot in a box ... I'd take the box over being pitched in a heap in the woods any old day ... going to have to leave some very specific instructions in my will! Read something once about a place that will actually let family members be in attendance when they shove you in the fire.

Book stuff > work on Truegold is progressing; past 40,000 words now and it's only been 3 weeks. Not too shabby. That's over 1/3 of the way there, huzzah!

Crzy > great news on the Beast, cute pic of Saruman (send it to me and I'll pop it in the next Sabledrake, huh?), and as for 2003 -- DON'T DO IT!!!! Not yet. 2005, remember? To give us all time to recover. Plus, a couple members of your crew might not have the time to do much helpwise; Tim is going to be totally taken up through all of this year by his Masonic stuff. 2005. No matter how Greg makes Bambi-eyes at you. ; )

Siryn > at least that would be better than some of the nightmares I had about him absolutely yelling at us and calling us idiots and denouncing us for all time ... ::twinge::

Stephen > yes, it's a shame we never managed to hook up at a con when you were living hereabouts. Oh, and speaking of cons, I won't be able to make NecronimiCon ... InCon in Spokane is in October, and we'll be using up all our vacation budget making a huge family trip in June.

Spacebabie > I know I'd much rather watch Survivor than the Olympics (unless we're talking Summer Olympics with men's diving and gymnastics; there's just nothing to leer at when they're all in snowsuits <g>). Looking forward with great interest to the new season. They won't be providing them any food at all this time, or matches, which should make things really fun!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, February 21, 2002 06:15:38 PM
IP: 64.24.186.144

Hola everyone. Sorry for not writing earlier, but I had some final-related troubles. Anyway, now I'm practically over...I had my Turbines final today (a 5 hours written test...), now I will evaluate if trying some interview to increase my votes or leave them as they are (probably I will for a couple of exams. No more than a couple, I am really *exhausted* for this semester...). How I did in Turbines? Well...if I passed, I did with a very narrow margin. If I failed, the same. It is frustrating to me failing exams for just a matter of millimeters, so I strongly hope for the first case...

Josh:> <<Most of which we don't try to replicate>> But it's our fault, not Nature's...
<<And even if my mind isn't the best, I still demand energy for it. >> The Engineer's Prerogative! ;)
<<If you can strike the right balance>> I didn't say I can strike it, but just that there must be a balance...
<<you are a better human than most.>> THIS is the objective!
<<As long as everyone does at least as badly as I did, all is good ;-) >> "Common sadness, half joy"...I hear saying it since I was born...unluckily, it is false! Let me tell you something I learnt: anytime you lose, then you are alone.
<<Quiet. We don't want him to come back. He's annoying.>> Hmmm...actually, I found him amusing when he came in here insulting everyone and boasting himself on how great he was in Starcraft, and how he could beat everyone with his eyes blindfolded and his hands tied in his back, and how everyone else's strategies were lousy and useless and consequently everyone used them was a looser...;)

Lexy:> << Make sure to keep a hold of that link! >> I will, be sure of it!
<<Is anyone else surprised that Disny is offering Gargs on so many of it's polls? I like this....Yes...This is very interesting. >> In fact, it IS interesting, to me at least. As far as I can see, they have been trying by any mean to ignore Gargoyles in the last years...actually, they did anything but denying they had eventually ever produced it. Now, they suddenly propose it in two polls...one of which for an important position as Top of 90s. Interesting...and a good chance for the fandom to make our voice heard. Here in Italy, we were able to force Disney Channel to rerun the first two seasons...we are at the 6th or more rerun in four years. So, if now you American fans are given a chance...

CrzyDemona:> <> Well, I eventually found it myself by mere chance...a target of opportunity, so to say. I had voted (for some times...) in the spookiest movie, and simply decided to waste some time by taking a look at the other polls...and so...surprise!
<<Thanks for the heads up!>> No prob...;)

Dreamie:> Hi, my friend! Long time no see, I can say!
<< I've been kept pretty busy with college >> I know the situation...
<<Wolfie and I went to a nice Italian place >> At least you have a good taste for food...;)

Siryn:> <<If you don't mind, I'm going to put that link you showed on site and give you credit of course. ^_^>> Why am I supposed to mind? No problem, of course, and no credit needed, it was just luck. Thank you anyway. :)

Ok, must close now. I'd love to have a early night and recover some sleep, but my girlfriend has a different program for tonight...oh, well, I suspect there's something worse in this world...;)

See everyone!
Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Thursday, February 21, 2002 02:40:23 PM
IP: 213.213.100.15

Gside> 800x600. I run a DOS application that's more or less illegible at higher resolution. Most of the other web comics I read require a little scrolling, but not much.

At home I have no problem at all.

DPH> Running late would be nice, but it's not really an option. You've got to pay those people, and most libraries don't have the manpower budget to do so. Libraries don't usually have big budgets, and they don't have total control over how they spend what money they do get.

I hope that's everybody.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Thursday, February 21, 2002 02:26:57 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

ack..sorry..didn't finish answering Josh questions

(like THAT would ever happen) probably not..but I still get nightmares about it.. O.o;; (move it to CA!) Ummm no. I've moved it ONCE before..that's it. ;) Besides, I've already paid off the hotel..not turning back now. (what colleges?) Well..Cal Arts actually (I know its in Valencia, CA not LA)..at least..maybe? I would really love to go there for animation college..I've already started doubletiming on my lifedrawing and taking animation classes on the side..I have about a year to prepare..but still!! I'm really nervous...:/ So..yeah..that's the main one right now (I'm looking into other colleges elsewhere..so we'll see)

Okay. Really done *gone to make fish and chips..with what's left of the fish*

Siryn - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Thursday, February 21, 2002 08:44:56 AM
IP: 24.93.24.62

*comes in exhausted, wearing jeans and atank top*

Okay..I KNOW this sounds REALLY lame...but do you think my professor would accept the excuse.."The Cats ate my homework?" I'm cooking Fish and Chips (cause well, I'm british) for Minority Group Relations class..and umm..lets just say the FURRY residents of this house swiped a POUND of fish while I was defrosting it.. *holds up what is left of mauled bag that fish were contained in..* heh...

THis of course happened..when I kinda 'passed out' from lack of sleep..URG! Too much work..not enough time.. -_-;;

Luckily..I have 3 more pounds..I just hope its going to be enough for everyone...

Vash> *HUGS* thankyou. It means a lot to har encouragement..I'm doing my very best to make this a good con. (maybe not the BEST con, but still, not one of the worst ones either..<:) I'm just stressed cause its finals week and I'm juggling gathering responsibilities and senior year of college. *HUGS* Thankyou hun! ^_^

Rayvn> Awww well, we'll miss you!!! Have fun in Arizonia. (nice state, been to many times)

GregB> Who knows..I've said like..for 3 years I think? That every year would be my last convention..and now look, i'm RUNNING the bloody thing! (pardon my language.. *slaps wrist*) ~_^ Hehe..

Revel> Ack..sorry..-_-;; I apologize..I'm REALLY bad with names..I'm more of a visual person.

Congrats to Dreamie, Winterwolf AND JEB for the webpage!

Josh> (re: why?!) I have finals (and final projects all this week). It's kinda funny that NEXT week is final's week. And lesse..I've got to update the gathering webpage with new info, make sure that my PR person sends all the correct info on Friday so everyone can read it..as for actual homework, I have a late lab (that I'm not done with) on Subjective Image Quality in printing/publishing, I've got 3 animation projects (one is 2/3s done) due tomorrow..and I've got to cook fish and chips for class this afternoon. ^_^;; So needless to say...kinda have no choice..If I sleep, nothing will get done. (especially since I kinda passed out last night...around the same time the cats swiped the fish...so I'm even MORE behind then I was before.

Blah..anyways, I need to get back to cooking.
More webpage updates to come..and hopefully I'll have mascot designs by NEXT friday (for all the art people). ^_^

Laters gargs and goyles!

Siryn - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Thursday, February 21, 2002 08:39:31 AM
IP: 24.93.24.62

Sweeeeeeet. I had my interview with Applied Materials today, and the guy who interviewed me was a mechE engineer from Cornell. He was a total nerd, so we spent the entire time talking about lego and building models. It was like a conversation, not an interview. I think as we wrapped it up (due to time limitations), he got peeved that he hadn't gotten through the questions he was supposed to ask, but he seemed to enjoy talking to me. Hopefully I'll get a call from them. I didn't have a chance to ask any questions I wanted to about the corporate culture, compensation, etc. But I'll get around to it.

I got two things in the mail today: one was my e-ticket (guess where I'm going and win a prize. Void in MD, NH, CA, and NY. Many parties not eligible to guess. You know who you are) and the other was from Chi Epsilon, the national CivE honor society. Apparently my GPA is still high enough that they want me to join. Suckers.

I also had my Structures midterm today. It sucked. I thought I was prepped for it...I mean, how many curveballs can there be when it comes to equilibrium? At least 5, apparently, for that was the number of problems on my exam. Well, I don't think I failed too badly. It's all relative anyway. As long as everyone does at least as badly as I did, all is good ;-)

replies.

Todd: <<he seems to have been so heavily bent on geopolitical domination as to have no interest in women>>: A man with his priorities so far out of whack does not deserve a price like the planet. <<If Sauron indeed was only a disembodied eye by the time of LOTR, then he'd certainly have no use for concubines>>: They might be fun to look at. And if that's all he's getting...

Siryn: <<no..sleep..for...four days....will make it.>>: Why!? <>: Like THAT would ever happen.<<if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations that *I* could do to make your Gathering experience better or more enjoyable etc, let me know please>>: Change its location to CA! ;-) <<I'm applying to some colleges there>>: Which ones?

Spacebabie: <<Yes I haven’t read any of the LOTR books>>: Its okay, I haven't either. I have the first one sitting on my dresser, but I just don't have the time to pick it up. <<Guess whats coming up at the end of February?>>: March? <<Good luck on it>>: Thanks. <<Plenty of time>>: Supposedly 5-7 problems...I hope you're right. <<There was fine little skimpy hairs…used to be skin too>>: Lovely. <<They will also eat their own vomit….then lick your face>>: One of the many reasons I don't have dogs. <<he made man with the knowhow to whip it>>: Whip it good. <<You don’t like whip cream?>>: Who said that? <<What about chocolate flavored body paint?>>: I like chocolate anything. <<Thank you for reminding me why I don’t take classes that start before ten>>: Normally I don't either. Bitter. <<don’t they have to die doing something stupid to become a candidate?>>: Die or get castrated. They need to be unable to breed afterward.

Crzy: <<well, if he is only an EYE at least he can watch porn>>: You and I think alike. <<you don't have to wait for Dreamie to get done being hit by a ball>>: Hit by a ball? <<now, talk me out of actually bidding for 2003... PLEASE>>: BID BID! <<we have a built in VCR with LCD monitor. I am so very happy right now>>: Keeps the kids quiet, eh?

Winterwolf: <<You weren't clicking hard enough>>: I didn't realize there were varying levels of "click". <<Takes one to know one>>: Perhaps, but I didn't take a girl out on V-day. <<Though we'll just see>> ::stares at computer:: <<How do you know that isn't the reason it doesn't fit>>: Because Dreamie is built small enough that it could be JUST the tablet that doesn't fit. <<At least it hasn't blocked the television yet>>: That is a big fat ass. <<Why not answer both. You could compare and contrast answers>>: I could, but I don't think anyone wants to know that badly, except maybe SJ. But only if he's trying to live vicariously through me. <<Regular or chocolate?>>: Either. <>: Nope. <<Hold a grudge much>>: You seem surprised.

Stephen: <>: Dude, I don't want to know about you feeling cobra commander's mojo. <<Rogue>>: I'm gonna have to go with SJ on this one. There's nothing particularly erotic about some girl with huge breasts wearing a spandex...WAIT A MINUTE! SJ! What are you smoking!? <>: Why do people always say that? Obviously, if they're just "moments" then you're not a villain.

Vashdoka: <<What happened to him?>>: Quiet. We don't want him to come back. He's annoying.

Sevarius Jr: <<I'm thinking it's the Asian fetish>>: You really should go to school here. <>: I only get all excited over girls dressed in birthday suits. And only some girls. <<you have some explaining to do about that thing in Georgia>>: Now THIS is a story to be shared with the CR. Spill it! <<Scores of Bodies Strewn at Site of Crematory>>: How did you know that was FS? <<If you tell me you had nothing to do with that, I won't believe you>>: Dude, that is some twisted sh*t.

Fire Storm: <<LM's father is selling the house>>: Another reason we don't live with family. <>: I think you're right. <<it gives you the chance to try on their clothes>>: I don't think their clothing will fit him. <>: One should never be surprised by this. <<No doubt>>: They're not CR appropriate either. <<Actually>>: Don't even joke. <<Buy the complete set>>: Complete set!? I can't afford ONE! <<All good plans do>>: Well I need a plan. I already know that the plan has to involve porn, because I need a way to move my porn somewhere else so I can reformat my drives ;-) <<But where's Rocky?>>: His body is en route to transsexual transylvania. <<behind their crappy firewalls>>: Which is only slightly less effective at distribution than putting it on a website that says "DOWNLOAD THE WINDOWS SOURCE HERE!" <<How do you fit in?>>: Um... <>: Patrick? <>: They do math. Sometimes they mumble. <>: That's a lot of slacking. Don't you get tired? <<Showing your e-mail address would help>>: That would take away the mystery! <<next time I shall click you with a sledgehammer>>: THAT will hurt! I'll pay to see it. Hey SJ! Dreamie's gonna be single! <<she was dead when I got there>>: According to the article, she really was! ;-) <<Now what am I going to do>>: Raid the fridge. The cryo-center, that is. They'll take a bit to thaw, but you're not BBQing till July. <<fermented dead>>: Any relation to the Grateful?

Mooncat: <<you and Sevarius Jr are two different posters, right?>>: You mean you can't tell just by the tone?

Ravyn: <>: Welcome back. <>: Gee, that's just too bad. <<You drop the word "engineer" around half the companies that came to campus today, and you get absolutely *loaded* with free stuff and information booklets>>: Not at THIS campus. Everyone's an engineer over here. <<but unfortunately, I still can't get a job>>: Just go to a bunch of websites and start emailing people with your resume. That's what I did. <<Good luck with the midterms>>: Sadly, it didn't help. <<Just remember, the sum of the forces equals zero>>: No kidding. Supposedly, that's what the entire test was on. I must have missed something. <<Good luck with the interview tomorrow also>>: Thanks. I think it went really well. <<awww, hell, I said the word *cute*>>: The world is ending. <>: Take her bar-hopping. <<Hey, I'm an engineer!>>: Supposedly, some engineers become parents. But I have yet to verify this. <<maybe I can teach the kid how to use a calculator>>: RPN or normal? <<it's mine mine mine, plus I'll have my *very* own kitchen and bathroom ... I'm excited! It's close to campus, so I can walk to class and not have to worry about parking permits and such, plus it's affordable!>>: Sounds great. Just make sure you get out every once in a while. I know if I didn't have a roommate, I'd have no life.

Greg X: <<When I rule there will be no foreign nations. Just one big one.>>: And I'm sure we'll all be one big happy family too. <<Who cares?>>: Everyone BUT the US ;-) <<Or post something so mind-numbinly disturbing we won't be able to sleep. I will though cause nothing affects me like that. Cause I'm a cold-blooded uncaring monster>>: Yeah I don't think this will cause me any grief either. <<And "Gladiator" sucked>>: Did not! <<SOLD!>>: YES! Now, is voting online yet or do I have to use the phone? <<Not inferior, just different.>>: These words are the same thing to me ;-) <<How do I use this to my advantage?>>: First find one. <<having a good concubine when you're evil violates the "Evil Overlord List">>: Ooh good call! You just earned yourself the position of "Evil Overlord Advisor" when I take over. <<Nothing is cheap in LA>>: Sure it is. You just have to know where to shop. <<And SUV owners>>: HEY! <>: I want Eliza. <<we'd love to have you>>: wink wink. <>: Only if I show up. Will this one be four days? Or is there not enough stuff to fill four days? <<You are sick, sick, sick! When I rule the world, do you want to be a regional governor?>>: Which region? <<Damn is that twisted.>>: Aren't you proud to be friends with him?

Gside: <<Even better are the LinSys/DSP/CompArch labs where you just show up, hand it in, and leave>>: Urgh. My structures labs are three hours, and when you leave you still aren't done! <<You mean the triangular one with the eye, or the one that summons the tentacle demon?>>: Both could be fun. <<So how does winterwolf fit?>>: You think he's 5'10", but he's really only 6 inches tall. <<you didn't say anything about me>>: Not that it stopped me anyway. <<But you're teeny. Just about all of them could>>: Nope. I've never fought fair in my life. <<There is no way man could make spam. It has to be inherently magical>>: Hmmm good point. Maybe its the cursed food of an evil archlich. <<The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of the development time. The remaining 10% of the code accounts for the other 90% of the development time>>: LOL. <<What's your screen res?>>: Not big enough! It's never big enough! <<they have to keep the bodies somewhere>>: They stuff them up cartman's butt? <<16 Tons by Tennesse Ernie Ford>>: WOOHOO! Great song.

DPH: <<The most objective definition of evil I like is being completely self-centered>>: I don't think so. There are plenty of self centered people who aren't necessarily evil. Spoiled brats, for instance. <<which ship would win in the battle of a White Star vs the Defiant?>>: I dunno, that Defiant is a "sturdy little ship". <<why can't they nail down every sport in the Olympics/Winter Olympics to the point where everything is objective with no room for subjective judgement?>>: Because then we'd have to eliminate figure skating, and no one wants to do that for some odd reason. <<Math rocks>>: Perhaps, but math majors rarely do. <<It was raining outside when I wrote that>>: I blame you anyway.

Bedtime.

I'm free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally.
-Unknown

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, February 21, 2002 02:50:04 AM
IP: 64.173.21.63

GXB - <Now I have a question for you? What's so great about being good? Nice guys finish last you know.> Before I can answer this question, I have to have your definition of good and evil. The most objective definition of evil I like is being completely self-centered. The most objective definition of good I like is being completely selfless. If you can agree to those definitions (or have better ones), I will answer what it is so great about being good.

**B5 vs DS9 TOPIC**
Stupid question: which ship would win in the battle of a White Star vs the Defiant?
**END B5 vs DS9 TOPIC**

Once again, I ask the stupid question: why do we have the Olympics? or the Winter Olympics? Surely, there must be cheaper ways of building international cooperation. Another dumb question: why can't they nail down every sport in the Olympics/Winter Olympics to the point where everything is objective with no room for subjective judgement?

Niamgold - <I've never seen a math major> Hmm. If I attend the gathering, you may be able to say you've seen a math major. Math rocks.

Revel - ::Note to self: good thing I stopped working on one of my projects.:: I guess we now know where all the TGS staffers belong.

Imzadi - <The good coders write all the code in the first hour of the project, then spend the next three weeks before the due date debugging it> Or adding more features.

GXB - Are you part of Wilek's conspiracy to take over the world? If not, I humbly request my own space station as a place to send all people who insist on doing good. That way, you will not have to deal with people like me.

SJ - where do you find such stories?

Ravyn - <any suggestions?> How should I know? I haven't been around little kids enough. All I know is be yourself.

Imzadi - <Dude you made it rain here!> It was raining outside when I wrote that.

David G - My answer would be the library stays open 1-2 hours after all the patrons leave and. That would give them enough time to tackle doing inventory of a small section of the library (make a printout listing all books in that section that are *supposed* to be present). The idea would be to ensure that once a month the inventory of every section of the library has been checked. <A book that's stuck on the wrong shelf might as well not exist.> How true! That's why there is a sign in the bookshelf that says "Please do not reshelve books".
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, February 21, 2002 01:40:15 AM
IP: 204.94.193.64

Dreamie> <<6:30-9:30 chemistry labs SUCK>>: And you get out of them when you're done with the lab. With anly luck that's less than an hour. Even better are the LinSys/DSP/CompArch labs where you just show up, hand it in, and leave.
<<Whoever guesses the weekly secret number gets a cookie and a lapel pin>>: You mean the triangular one with the eye, or the one that summons the tentacle demon?
<>: So how does winterwolf fit?
<<Josh dont touch that comment>>: Ha, you didn't say anything about me.

Imzadi> <>: But you're teeny. Just about all of them could.
<<There are spam fairies!?>>: There is no way man could make spam. It has to be inherently magical.
<<But I don't know where that's been>>: Good point.
<<The good coders write all the code in the first hour of the project, then spend the next three weeks before the due date debugging it>>: "The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of the development time. The remaining 10% of the code accounts for the other 90% of the development time."

David G.> <<Most of the pages required both x and y scrolling>>: What's your screen res?

Fire Storm> <<LM's father is selling the house. Soon>>: good luck finding a new place. Soon.
<<How about a translation?>>: Well, I'm not good at post-Jive, but the French is "Would you like to sleep with me tonight?"
<<Darn Vikings>>: So Warpmind, just why do vikings like spam so much? Other than its inherent magical powers.

SJ> <<There were bodies stacked like cordwood>>: You know, in New Hampshire, they can't bury anyone during the winter because the ground's too hard. And they have to keep the bodies somewhere.

And you get an old classic for an mp3 this week. 16 Tons by Tennesse Ernie Ford.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:11:40 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Not doing much, just reading, but my mother sent me this link in the mail and eveny one in here should check it out and see where they think they rate. I'm personally somewhere in the near middle bottom of the heirarchy. Yes, I get my love for the unusual and interesting from my mother.

Siryn- Um... I don't ahve a link on building wings that I know of. I believe that credit was due to someone else, but thanks for having my name come to mind. ;)

Later
Revel - [<<---------Click!!]
denton, tx
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:26:36 PM
IP: 129.120.230.108

Sorry, Greg and JEB! I didn't realize JEB worked on the site too ... my apologies, my mistake. Speakin' of which ...

JEB> HEY!!! If you're around, I haven't gotten to talk to you in *forever* ... great job on the G2003 site, and let me know how you've been sometime! ;)
Ravyn
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:21:50 PM
IP: 150.135.180.226

Hello all

LAIN> <<death penalty?>> Kill 'em all! <<us foreign relations?>> When I rule there will be no foreign nations. Just one big one. <<the olympics?>> Who cares?

JOSH> <<Careful, he'll post and keep me awake all night replying.>> Or post something so mind-numbinly disturbing we won't be able to sleep. I will though cause nothing affects me like that. Cause I'm a cold-blooded uncaring monster. <<It actually wasn't bad.>> Still won't go. <<Or do you have something against Crowe?>> He's rich, I'm not. And "Gladiator" sucked! <<Hardly a distinction. Many movies are crap.>> True, but Christopher Lee is awesome. <<Ten bucks. Fifteen if its a deciding vote>> SOLD! <<And yet still inferior to CA>> Not inferior, just different. <> There's a story behind that, but it's not for me to share. <> How do I use this to my advantage? <<Nope. If you're evil, its much more satisifying to have a good concubine>> Nah, I want a concubine who's not likely to sick a knife in me. Besides, having a good concubine when you're evil violates the "Evil Overlord List". <<LA? Come on down!>> I agree on the chicks, but not the liquor. Nothing is cheap in LA. <<I'd like to shoot jaywalkers.>> Me to. And SUV owners. <<So true. And chicks dig jerks anyway.>> I learned that in High School. Been having fun ever since.

JEN> <<Sauron's body ... well, if he is only an EYE at least he can watch porn!>> I guess he could. <<He sets the Palantir to "Lothlorien" and watches Galadriel take baths>> I want a Palantir for my birthday. <<or something (or ICK... Saruman!)>> Ack, I don't want to imagine that! <<... who knows>> I know of course. <<Damn you all for inspiring my evil muse!!!>> I assume full responsibility. i started this thread. <<Click the link for twisted Saruman humor.>> In the name of Melkor what have I wrought? ;)

SIRYN> <<If its in NY I might go>> Hope you do, we'd love to have you.

STEPHEN> <<Question, how solid is your bid for 2003 shaping up?>> Quite solid, just waiting till it's official. But we've got lots of plans, and I've got a great staff behind me. I have faith that this will be a great con. <<I'd love to make it to a Gathering in NYC>> Glad you do. We'd love to hold it in NYC.

RAVYN> <<And great job to you and Winterwolf with the G2003 website. Looks awesome!>> I don't mean to sound anal about this, but JEB worked on the site also, it was a real team effort between him and Winterwolf, so I'd like people to give him more a little more credit. And Dreamie's pic of our mascot is great of course. But I'm glad you like the site and I hope you can make it to NYC if our bid is chosen.

::Reads SJ'S Post:: Damn, Fire Storm. You are sick, sick, sick! When I rule the world, do you want to be a regional governor? ;)

SJ> Well I asked you to start something and you did. Damn is that twisted.
Greg Bishansky
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 09:54:21 PM
IP: 216.179.3.107

MOONCAT - Bascially, SJ hit the nail on the head about the difference between us two... though he's not entirely true about me being less evil than him. I have my moments of villany.

They just don't happen in here. <grin>

Wow, three posts from me in one night...the mind boggledeth! Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 08:52:38 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

SJ: <What did you DO??? You have the nerve to ask that? This is what you had to do>
Oh, THAT mess in Georgia! Well, here's what happened...
I was hosting a HUGE BBQ for myself and some fellow monsters, and if you have a BBQ, you MUST have corpses to BBQ! Since I was planning this for years, i told these guys to not burn the bodies and just let them ripen.
This sucks because I had everything planned for July! Now what am I going to do.
Guess i will have to use FRESH bodies. And my fermented dead always gets such rave reviews!
<If you tell me you had nothing to do with that, I won't believe you.>
I didn't do it!
Fire Storm
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 08:31:46 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Mooncat: You can tell Stephen and myself apart by our views on erotica.

That and he's not nearly as evil as I am.

Fire Storm: What did you DO??? You have the nerve to ask that? This is what you had to do:

******
Scores of Bodies Strewn at Site of Crematory

By ROBERT D. McFADDEN

NOBLE, Ga., Feb. 16 — Every funeral director for 100 miles did business with the Tri-State Crematory on the assumption that the owners were doing their job of transforming dead bodies into ashes. But today, horrified authorities discovered decomposing evidence that the furnace at the crematory had not worked for years.

After a dog walker stumbled over a skull on Friday, law enforcement officers discovered at least 120 rotting corpses in sheds and on the ground near the crematory, and state officials said that that figure could double by the time the area is fully examined. Some of the bodies had been there for years and were nearly skeletal, while others, fresh from the funeral home, still bore toe tags.

Human bones, weathered white, were scattered through the woods like leaves, skulls mixed with leg bones in a ghoulish jumble that one state trooper compared to a scene from a Stephen King novel. An infant's body was found in a box in the back of a rusting hearse.

Some bodies had become mummified and may have been at the site more than 20 years, said Dr. Kris Sperry, Georgia's chief medical examiner. Nearly two dozen coffins that had once been buried were also found on the ground, Dr. Sperry said, and in some cases their embalmed contents had been dragged out and left exposed to the elements for years. It was unclear why those bodies were at the site.
Officials said there was apparently no foul play involved with any of the bodies. But even hardened law enforcement officers were left shaken and nauseated by what they saw in the sheds.

"There were bodies stacked like cordwood, just discarded and thrown in a pile," said Vernon Keenan, assistant director of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. "After 30 years in law enforcement, you think you've seen everything. And then you see something you can't even imagine."

Dr. Sperry, who deals with corpses every day, said nothing had prepared him for what he saw today.

"I have to say, the utter lack of respect in which they were piled on top of one another was very disturbing," he said.

State officials declared Walker County a disaster area to enable state funds to be spent on the cleanup. They said that apparently the furnace had broken down several years ago and the owners could not afford repairs. The crematory's manager, Ray Brent Marsh, 28, was charged with five counts of theft by deception and was in the county jail tonight. His parents, Ray and Clara Marsh, who own the business, were not charged.

Mr. Keenan said the fraud charges were brought in the absence of any state laws barring inappropriate treatment of corpses.

"We have laws against desecrating graves, but we can't find one against desecration of bodies," he said. "I guess nobody in the Legislature ever thought something like this could happen."

In many cases, families who thought their relatives had been cremated received urns containing what they believed were ashes, but were in fact a mixture of burned wood chips and dirt, officials said. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation urged any families who had received urns through Tri-State to bring them in for examination.

By nightfall, officials had tagged and numbered 80 bodies: they planned to continue their task throughout the week. Earth-moving equipment was ordered, and there was talk of draining a lake on the crematory's property to see what might be on the bottom.

Thirteen bodies were fresh enough to be identified, and some of the families who were notified gathered at a nearby church to exchange tales of shock.

Neva and Tim Mason, accountants who live in nearby La Fayette, were told on Friday night that the body of Mr. Mason's father, Luther P. Mason, had been found. Luther Mason died on Dec. 19, Neva Mason said, and the family believed he had been cremated and his ashes buried at La Fayette Memory Gardens, just down Highway 27 from Noble.

They had had a ceremony at the cemetery, she said, and were shocked to hear that his body had been found at the crematory.

"He was stacked in a barn," Mrs. Mason said. "We don't know if he was stacked on top of people or with people stacked on top of him. We don't know if he was wearing clothes.

"I don't know what's worse, him dying, or this."

The Masons, like almost everyone else in this small town in northwest Georgia, 17 miles south of Chattanooga, knew the Marsh family and never had reason to suspect that anything was awry at the crematory.

"I've known the Marshes all my life," Mrs. Mason said. "My brother graduated college with Brent. They're wonderful people. Mrs. Marsh helped hundreds of kids in this area."

Clara Marsh, a schoolteacher, was president of the Walker County Association of Educators and chairwoman of the Walker County Democratic Committee. Ray Brent Marsh was active in civic affairs, and Sheriff Steve Wilson said he served with Mr. Marsh on several boards and commissions.

The authorities set up a makeshift morgue on the site today, and began moving the newer bodies to a nearby site where families could come and identify them.

At least 20 funeral homes that may have sent bodies to the Tri-State Crematory over the last six years were contacted and asked to review their records in hopes of identifying many of the corpses, but Mr. Keenan said he believed many of the remains would never be identified.

Although all crematories and funeral homes are supposed to be inspected regularly, state officials said Georgia has only two inspectors, and could not provide records today of the last inspection of Tri-State.

W. E. McGill, who was the elected Walker County coroner for 23 years, until his retirement in 2000, said that Tri-State Crematory had operated illegally for a decade by not having a licensed funeral director on its premises during business hours, as required by a state law passed in 1992. He said the crematory also failed to meet state sanitation requirements.

"I filed complaints, but nothing was ever done about it," Mr. McGill said.

Mr. McGill said that Mr. and Mrs. Marsh had started out in the businesses of grave digging and burial vault supply, and that Tri-State had been the only crematory in the county when they founded it three decades ago. (The family lives next to the crematorium.) In those days, he said, a decision to cremate was rare.

"This is the Bible Belt South, and everybody had their own community or church cemetery," he said. In recent years, however, cremation has become more common, and several more crematories have begun operating in the area, he said.

"Cremation was not popular down here until six or seven years ago," Mr. McGill said, adding that the change " has to do with the economy — it's so much cheaper."

Sheila Horton, the niece of the elder Ray Marsh, said greed was to blame for the ghoulish scene.

"His wife and son just didn't want to spend the money to fix it up," said Mrs. Horton, who grew up in Noble and now lives in Atlanta. "Lord Jesus, I don't know how they could go to bed at night with all that outside their window."

****

If you tell me you had nothing to do with that, I won't believe you. ;)
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 08:14:06 PM
IP: 66.44.91.181

Hey! :)

I just realized that I haven't posted in here for ages!!! Sorry 'bout that, all ... I also realized I missed my traditional annual sappy Valentine's Day post ... **sighs** ah, well, Coyote can make it up if he wants to. ;) Happy belated Valentine's Day to all! :)

Today was "Career Fair" day on campus, and I tell ya, it's one of the days when you're just glad to be an engineer. You drop the word "engineer" around half the companies that came to campus today, and you get absolutely *loaded* with free stuff and information booklets. ;) Today, my top freebie rating goes to the U.S. Army, who went absolutely berserk after I asked them for information (mostly for my brother, who really *is* going into the Army someday), and they asked me what I was majoring in ... and it went from there. They gave me a spiffy Army shopping bag, then filled it up with all the free stuff they had with them ... I left there with an Army T-shirt, a hat, a mouse pad, tons of pens and pencils, stickers, and a nifty sew-on patch. My brother will be thrilled. ;)

It was a good day for the self-esteem, but unfortunately, I still can't get a job. Oh, well, there's always the campus bookstore ... ;)

Anyway, replies! :)

Dreamie> Glad to see you back 'round these parts! ;) Hope that all is going well with the studies and stuff. Good luck! And great job to you and Winterwolf with the G2003 website. Looks awesome!

Josh> Good luck with the midterms! Just remember, the sum of the forces equals zero ... insert flashbacks to statics here ... ;) Good luck with the interview tomorrow also.

Movies> Let's see here ... the movies I saw last year ... not too many, considering my record summer the year before. ;) I saw Shrek (LOVED IT!!!), Atlantis (pretty good), Beauty and the Beast on IMAX (as always, one of my *favorite* movies!!!), and Lord of the Rings (Excellent, I loved it even though I'd never read the books!)

Go, Lexy! :)

FS> <<not Ravyn, that's for sure!>> Hey! What's that supposed to mean??? j/k ;) <<LM's father is selling the house>> Dude, that SUCKS. Really sucks. I hope things work out somehow ... let me know if there's anything I can do. I'm sorry about that. :(

LM> **hugs** :(

Shinigami> <<I'm giving up MODERATION for Lent>> Heck yeah! Sounds like a good plan to me. Although I didn't give up anything for Lent ... ;) BTW, the website looks great.

Mooncat> Best of luck with the fanfic cycle ... I'll be interested in checking out the stories. :)

Jan> How are you doing? :) How's li'l cute baby Zach and all that? Not that I think babies are cute or anything ... awww, hell, I said the word *cute* ... ;)

Speaking of babies, my uncle is coming out to visit with his wife and my new cousin Grace, who's just over a year old. I have no idea what to do with this baby around ... any suggestions? ;)

Hey, I'm an engineer! I can calculate the forces acting on the kid, but don't make me think up games or toys to play with ... hey, maybe I can teach the kid how to use a calculator ... get 'em started early, heh heh ... ;)

Gathering 2002> Unfortunately, it looks like I won't be able to make it more than likely ... sorry, y'all. Kinda can't afford it with my big move coming up. I might end up taking summer school classes here in Arizona anyway, if I can't get a job somewhere else ... :(

Speaking of moves, I finally found an actual place to live!!!!! It's just a little studio apartment, but it's mine mine mine, plus I'll have my *very* own kitchen and bathroom ... I'm excited! It's close to campus, so I can walk to class and not have to worry about parking permits and such, plus it's affordable! :) I already put down my deposit with my application, and it's more than likely I'll be approved and have a place of my own come June. :)

I've got a question for you all ... this place offers high-speed Internet access through one of the local cable companies (Cox Communications, if anyone's interested). Is it worth it to go for the high-speed? About how much is it? :) I might go for it ... :)

Coyote> **kisses and snuggles** Hiya, wonderful. :)

See you all around!
Ravyn
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 07:43:39 PM
IP: 150.135.180.226

Stephen R S J -- Hi, -- Yes I read nonGarg erotica too. I even write some *^_~* If you want me to look over a piece of fiction, just send it my way.

Okay, just a quickie question, you and Sevarius Jr are two different posters, right? Just wanting to make sure I'm not confusing S Jr's -- I am so bad with names. sigh...

MC
>^,,^<
Mooncat - [Mooncat@kscable.com]
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 07:31:23 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

David G.> Well, not much I can do about that end of things. The webmaster at the moment is in China and is paying some massive money just for his net access. I do agree the format needs some work, but I doubt he'll get anything done till he can get back to the states... Still I like some of the stories he has going on here and I'm already scheduled for another one.
Skippy The Klingon
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 07:09:45 PM
IP: 209.245.243.88

News: Well, just as I was starting to save for a house, guess what happened?
LM's father is selling the house. Soon. VERY f$cking soon.
This. SUCKS.

Patrick: <You'd say: "Why did Constantinople get the works? / That's nobody's business but the Turks.">
But in the very beginning of the song, it sounds like something different.

I think you just love the feeling of pantyhose!
<Plus Eden and Crzy encourage me 'cause I guess they can't get enough of seeing me in tights>
And it gives you the chance to try on their clothes... another thing you like! ;)

Gside: <http://www.allstarz.org/christina/lady.htm>
How about a translation?
<Patrick got to it first>
Yeppers. Beat ya to it.
<Pretty much. And you also have to make sure that the output is acceptable as input.>
That's true.
<Shhh dear, don't make a fuss>
Darn Vikings.

Imzadi: <Gee, I'm shocked>
Yeah, I know!
I knew it would suck... i was surprised at how MUCH it sucked!
<Its not CR appropriate>
No doubt.
<Good thing you're not a CivE>
Actually... ;)

Buy the complete set!
<Ya know, as weird as that mech is, its also the most widely recognized>
That IS weird!
<Does it involve porn?>
All good plans do!
<He's just a sweet transvestite>
But where's Rocky?
<They won't, because the states won't be giving it out>
No, they will just put it on one of their systems... behind their crappy firewalls.
<And then you get fried stuffs>
Yep. Fried chips! Yummy!
<Personally, I think sponges and a laundry machine are better.>
But how do you fit in it?

Spacebabie: <That’s what I said, but man oh man is Ewan hot in that movie!>
I like the little green faries!

Niamhgold: <I've never seen a math major, let alone a "female" one. Are they mythical beasts like Loch Ness?>
I am unsure if they do math... hell, I have no idea WHAT they do!
<Heh. We're such slackers>
I slack all night, I slack all day!

Aingeal: <if you want to reach me... e-mail..... eventually i'll get back to you... i think>
Showing your e-mail address would help!

Winterwolf: <LOL Oops... err... You weren't clicking hard enough. ;D>
Then next time I shall click with a sledgehammer!

Sevarius Jr: <Speaking of which, Fire Storm, you have some explaining to do about that thing in Georgia>
I wasn't anywhere near there at the time! And you can't prove it wasn't that way there before! And she was dead when I got there... NO! WAIT! DAMN!
...
Um... what did I do?
Fire Storm
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 06:41:49 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Skippy> Your art is pretty good (better than me, but not great) but I couldn't get into the comic because the web page format was so annoying.

Most of the pages required both x and y scrolling, and there was no navigation tool. I got tired of hitting BACK and choosing the next page.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 05:54:18 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Olympics update: Well, America has won more medals at this point that we've done before, and it appears that we've beaten our goal of obtaining 20 medals. Not bad! Of course, the Winter Olympics are pretty much pointless, but still it's nice.

Michelle Kwan is in first place so far in women's figure skating, which makes me happy. Because I've got a thing for Michelle Kwan.....I'm thinking it's the Asian fetish. Regardless, I hope she wins, otherwise it's the Icecapades for her.

<<BTW, just saw a truly bitchin' 3D animated commercial for what looks like a new G.I.Joe website. They had some of the former Joe Team heavy hitters: Duke, Gung-Ho, Heavy Duty and Snake Eyes, as well as Cobra baddies Destro, Stormshadow and Cobra Commander himself... looks great, though I have to admit when CC spoke, I wasn't feelin' his mojo working. <sigh> Since Chris Latta isn't with us anymore, I don't think anyone can bring back the true campy menace that was the original CC.>>

The commercial is for much more than just the website. It's a good time to be a fan of G.I. Joes, as the toy line has been restarted, and there are lots of new figures (brand new - new sculpts and everything) that are coming out. As a collector, I'm pratically giddy. There's some bitching snapshots of the new figures from the annual Toy Faire they held recently. Personally, I'm hoping for a new animated series, but in the meantime I'll enjoy the new comic series, which is wicked fun.

<<Oh, and for SJ and Josh and those that are always on the eye for great looking ladies... Definetly check out Marvel Superhero Island when they roll out the cavalcade of people in spandex and costumes: They have Storm and Rogue among the usual token heroes (like Spidey, Cap America, etc.), and let me say this much: Rogue is very very much DROOL material!>>

See, now I'm not sure I'm into that. I'm a geek for comic books, I'll admit it, but I don't know if I can get all excited over girls dressed like superheroes. That may be a bit too weird even for me, and I've got some pretty deviant behaviors.

Speaking of which, Fire Storm, you have some explaining to do about that thing in Georgia.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 05:42:50 PM
IP: 66.44.91.181

VASH - No, due to lack of interest from local Florida fans (i.e. - they couldn't see to offer time or help to get the bid off the ground), and because of a couple of other unsavory factors, I pretty much decided pursuing a bid at this time was a bust... somehow I don't think the fandom wants to come back to Florida, even though the host site for my bid would have been in Tampa Bay.

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr.
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 05:38:31 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

Stephen> Are you still going ahead with your bid to host 2003 in Tampa, FA? And where did your website go? I realized the other day that it's disappeared. =(

Siryn> Don't stress, you're doing a great job with the Gathering so far, overcoming a lot of bad luck.

Dreamie> You're a full member now, so go right ahead. ;)

Starcraft> I just noticed a few comments on the game, which reminded me of that NukesGoBoom fellow. What happened to him?
Vashkoda
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 05:29:40 PM
IP: 129.98.122.194

Greetings all... Back from a two-day mini-vacation in Orlando, but more on that later.

JOSH - <My alarm clock neglected to wake me up this morning> Know how you feel. I went through that today, then had to hoof it to work because the battery in Igor went bad. Thank goodness I could get my neighbor to swap the dead one out with a spare until I can get a replacement.

SAURON'S BODY - To be hontest, I always thought Sauron never regained a physical form after Isildur cut the ring from his hand during the big battle... at least from what I thought after reading the LOTR trillogy for the first time.

BTW, just saw a truly bitchin' 3D animated commercial for what looks like a new G.I.Joe website. They had some of the former Joe Team heavy hitters: Duke, Gung-Ho, Heavy Duty and Snake Eyes, as well as Cobra baddies Destro, Stormshadow and Cobra Commander himself... looks great, though I have to admit when CC spoke, I wasn't feelin' his mojo working. <sigh> Since Chris Latta isn't with us anymore, I don't think anyone can bring back the true campy menace that was the original CC.

Sooo, with that, a little update on my mini-vacation. For those that haven't been to Universal Orlando's Islands of Adventure, you might want to check it out next time. Some of the rides I recommend are the Spider Man ride (it ROCKED!), and the MIB Alien Attack. Also check out the Lost Continent area for some great stuff and goodies (armor, swords, die-struck pendants, and metal work)... And the Eight Voyage of Sinbad stunt show is a treat to watch. Warning, they have put in some pop-culture references (sucn as Sinbad telling the evil witch at the end "You are the Weakest link... Good bye!"), but it's a good show from start to finish.

Oh, and for SJ and Josh and those that are always on the eye for great looking ladies... Definetly check out Marvel Superhero Island when they roll out the cavalcade of people in spandex and costumes: They have Storm and Rogue among the usual token heroes (like Spidey, Cap America, etc.), and let me say this much: Rogue is very very much DROOL material! I had my picture taken with her and Storm, and got her autograph (so I'm a total fanboy, sue me!). I'll post the pics when I get the film developed, ASAP.

CHRISTINE - Glad to hear RadCon was good, in spite of all the troubles... I'll have to try to make it up there someday, somehow.

MOONCAT - Been meaning to ask, do you read erotica that's non-Garg oriented? if so, I might have a story that I'd like you to review...if you don't mind that is?

GREG B - Question, how solid is your bid for 2003 shaping up? Reason why I ask is because aside from the 2004 bid for Detroit, I'd love to make it to a Gathering in NYC, since I may not make it to the one in Va. Beach this year (since my recent promotions may not give me the option for time off in June...).

Anyway, that's all from me. Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 05:09:15 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

still going..O.o;;; It'll all be over on Friday..I hope.^_^;;

BTW, if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations that *I* could do to make your Gathering experience better or more enjoyable etc, let me know please! I'm not at all a 'pro' at this like other people, but I'm trying to do my very best to bring everyone a great convention..so let me know! ^_^

Jen> Either way..anything could help..if not its no biggie, I'll just come up with something else for a costume..and you and Revel have awesome wing tutorials on your respective sites too. <:) Might not matter..I might not have enough time to throw anything together right now.
Cool picture btw! ^_^ And congrats on selling the car. Does this mean things are getting much betterfor you now? :)

Congrats to Lexy and Jen for being soo awesome about the links and encouraging everyone and spreading the word. You go girls! ^_^

G2003> If its in NY I might go (cause its close) if its in LA I might go (because I'm applying to some colleges there..and I might be able to put that excuse past my parents to let me. ^_^ But..no promises..money's becoming really tight really fast. I only have enough saved so far for a year of animation college (at least in the states)..but hopefully that will change. ^_^

Ps..sorry if I sound majorly dumb..I've had very little sleep and I'm not expecting much of any more until Friday.
Siryn - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 04:33:21 PM
IP: 24.93.24.62

SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT!!!!

Just wanted to let everyone know I've started working on an online comic and my first five pages are now online. I'd really love to hear what everyone has to say about it. Check the name link...
Skippy The Klingon - [<--Click Here]
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 02:37:12 PM
IP: 209.245.243.54

Hi everybody. Well the roofing work on the building I live in is done. Took a week of parking in one of the few visitor spots but now I can park in my regular space again.

FireStorm> LOL Oops... err... You weren't clicking hard enough. ;D

SOROW> <RA> Sounds like a good deal. You'll make a great RA. ^_^

Josh> <Wolfie's a cheapskate> **poke** Takes one to know one. Though we'll just see... ;P <Dodge Neon!? Where do you people find these cars?> Heh. The Neon was going up a steep hill (over 20% grade) from a stop... <There should be more important things in your lap than a tablet> How do you know that isn't the reason it doesn't fit. ;P <Why are you examining your cat's rear end?> Sometimes it just wanders into your field of vision. At least it hasn't blocked the television yet. :D <<<How would that be different from any other day?>>: For you or for me?> Why not answer both. You could compare and contrast answers... <What, no whipped cream?> Regular or chocolate? <weekly secret number> I don't think you're aiming for the cookie, are you.

Jen> Hold a grudge much.

Spacebabie> Yay for Spooky. Happy to hear she is on the road to a full recovery. <banana> That sounds like it'd be better tasting for people but I don't think cats particularly like the taste of bananas, at least not the cats I've known. <pull a muscle in my thigh> That has to be painful! Ouch! O.o I've only cramped up my calf muscles in the past and that sucked. BTW - In addition to warmups you should make sure you are fully hydrated. Lack of water is another prime reason for some muscle injury/cramping. Hope you feel better right away and the muscle is back to full strength.

Thanks to everyone for the positive remarks on the page. I'm itching to build the whole site but that's contingent on winning. So for now I'll just cross my fingers as I wait and see.

Bye bye everybody.

Winterwolf
Seattle, WA
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 02:13:52 PM
IP: 172.182.197.247

CrzyDemona -- aaaaa!!! You are wicked!!! *^_^* I loved the cartoon. Do more. *claps hands in appreciation*

Josh -- yup, New Legends is off and running. yow!

Dreamie -- *rushes to put a pillow under her head before Dreamie hits the ground* -- ah, yup, hair cut. It's kind of cool, except for all these curls now. Without the weight of being long, my hair has gone all springy/sprongy. sigh... Washes and dries like a dream though.

Okay, off to do the chores o' the day!
It's lovely looking outside, hope it isn't cold.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 01:19:48 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Damn you all for inspiring my evil muse!!!

Click the link for twisted Saruman humor.
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson - [<--- Click]
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:53:34 PM
IP: 67.227.14.105

Sauron's body ... well, if he is only an EYE at least he can watch porn! He sets the Palantir to "Lothlorien" and watches Galadriel take baths or something (or ICK... Saruman!)... who knows.

Siryn - Sure, Dreamie MIGHT tell you about the wings... You would be better off to ask her mom though. (She was happy to tell us how she made them and you don't have to wait for Dreamie to get done being hit by a ball) :P

Christine - Sounds like RadCon was a rollercoaster of fun and frustration. ... and yes... we did do a KICK ASS job at G2001. :) (now, talk me out of actually bidding for 2003... PLEASE!)

GOOD NEWS! I got rid of "THE BEAST" (AKA, my Dodge, dually, one ton beast of a truck) I am now the proud owner of a nice used Pontiac Montana. Let's hear it for Mini-Vans that seat 8!! It also has "MontanaVision" so we have a built in VCR with LCD monitor. I am so very happy right now. Oh yes.

GO US! Gargoyles did boot Nightmare Before Christmas out of the #1 spot! Keep voting guys!! Someone has GOT to notice!

Shadowrider - WHOA! I didn't notice that you could vote for Gargs there!! Gonna have to keep on voting there too! Thanks for the heads up!
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:36:30 AM
IP: 67.227.14.105

Oh man a LOTR discussion. Yes I haven’t read any of the LOTR books, but that’s cause I’m still going through my reading material I got for Christmas. I’ll get around to it eventually.

Guess whats coming up at the end of February??? Another survivor. Yup the fourth one and I want to know why can’t it be on now? Doesn’t CBS realize it could have ALL of NBC’s audience? Because I’m sure people would rather watch normal people eat gobs of rotting pig intestines and roll around giant mounds of dung than see Ice Dancing.

Not much else
Replies:

Niahmgold<<<Wait until I make canollis...mmmmm.>>>Canolis rock!

Josh<<<First midterm of the semester is Wednesday,>>>Good luck on it<<<Shouldn't be too hard, but I hear its really long. We get 3 hours to take it.>>>Plenty of time.<<<Want me to massage it for you?>>>Okay<<<There's hair on your ankle?>>>There was fine little skimpy hairs…used to be skin too.<<<Because unlike animals, we'll eat sh*t if someone tells us its healthy.>>>Dogs eat sh*t too, out of the cat box. They will also eat their own vomit….then lick your face.<<<What is a seafoon?>>>Seafood she works in the seafood dept.<<<God did not make whipped cream.>>>True but he made cows, wich make cream and he made man with the knowhow to whip it.<<<All the other stuff I'm in favor of.>>>You don’t like whip cream??What about chocolate flavored body paint?<<<!@#$ >>>That sums it all up.<<<My alarm clock neglected to wake me up this morning,>>>I hate it when that happens, its usually cause of a power outage.<<<so at 8:20 I jumped out of bed and ran to class...got there in less than 3 minutes, and that included getting dressed.>>>Thank you for reminding me why I don’t take classes that start before ten.

DPH<<<I have a candidate for the Darwin awards. At night, a person misses a road to turn on and goes down a driveway. The person thinks the driveway is full circle, but the driveway isn't. That person's car gets stuck in mud.>>>Uh don’t they have to die doing something stupid to become a candidate?<<<Whose driveway? Mine.>>>That must have been funny to watch.

GXB<<<Where's the "Annual Really Big SJ Post" on them.>>>I think he made amini post on them not too long ago.

Dreamie<<<YIKES! @.o Hope she'll be ok!>>>Well she had the needle removed and she is recovering fine. I have to give her antibiotics now
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:35:31 AM
IP: 65.230.83.201

Finals...again....no..sleep..for...four days....will make it. >:P On the up side...all I have to do now is cook a meal for Minority group relations and get three animation projects done by Friday... O.o Plus update the gathering website..and make sure the update goes out on time...so..no biggie...right?

Dreamie> Thanks..I'll email you probably this weekend about it. ^_^ Btw, nice site, I've never seen it before. ^_^ I REALLY love your swoop! picture!! very very nice!! I'm jealous. ^_^

Christine> Re G2001: Yeah you guys did a very good job! ^_^ I'm just hoping we can do well too...I'm soo worried..I keep having nightmares of Greg giving me that "well, you did your best look" patting me on the shoulder and walking off...GAHHHH O.o;;;;;;;;;;

*sigh* Must get back to finishing up colour measurement lab...bye byes gargs and goyles

Shadowrider> If you don't mind, I'm going to put that link you showed on site and give you credit of course. ^_^

Okay..really time to go! *poof*
Siryn - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:33:34 AM
IP: 129.21.153.18

TODD> I think it's safe to say that Sauron had a physical form in the book during the Third Age. Hell, Gollum saw him during his interrogation and said tolf Frodo that Sauron had only nine fingers... obviously he could not regenerate another one to replace the finger that he wore the One Ring upon. I believe the Great Eye is merely a magical extension of him, a manifestation of his will to find the Ring.

As for the movie, I think Sauron has a physical form also. Yeah Saruman said that he could not yet take physical form, but this is Saruman who said it, he's not exactly the most reliable source. Also, we know that Saruman desires to claim the One Ring for himself, and that Sauron is aware of this. Maybe Sauron wants Saruman to believe that he is weaker than he actually is. Oh well, either way I do expect that we will be seeing Sauron on screen again before this is all over. Probably at the climax of "The Return of the King"

But back to the original question about this, and to keep this discussion from getting too literary (can't have that in this CR ;) ). If Sauron did have a lot of concubines in Barad-dur, that could explain why he never left it in the books.
Greg Bishansky
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 09:15:07 AM
IP: 167.206.248.11

BISHANSKY - No, nothing in any of Tolkien's works about Sauron having concubines in Barad-dur; as far as I can tell, he seems to have been so heavily bent on geopolitical domination as to have no interest in women. (Though, in "The Silmarillion", we do see Morgoth developing lust for Luthien, but fortunately he gets placed in an enchanted sleep by her before he can act on it).

Of course, depending on what condition Sauron was in at the time of the War of the Ring, he might not even have been in a situation to make use of a harem. We know that, in LOTR, he appears as a disembodied eye, but the book never states whether that is his full form or not; the movie, of course, portrays the Eye as being all that is left of Sauron once he lost the Ring, with the indication that he can only take on a fresh physical shape if he were to get the Ring back. If Sauron indeed was only a disembodied eye by the time of LOTR, then he'd certainly have no use for concubines.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 06:59:59 AM
IP: 63.183.39.151

!@#$

My alarm clock neglected to wake me up this morning, so at 8:20 I jumped out of bed and ran to class...got there in less than 3 minutes, and that included getting dressed. Missed about 15 mins of my structural engineering class, but that's okay since this material isn't on the midterm tomorrow.

Done with class at about 1230, went to transportation office hours to check some answers, and spent the rest of the day lounging around the apartment and "studying".

After 5 years, if I can't figure out that an equilibrium condition is where the sum of the forces and moments in any given direction equal zero...I'm not gonna be a very good civil engineer.

I have my interview at Applied Materials tomorrow. Frankly, I don't know crap about semiconductors, but fortunately they're looking for MechE's, and I can handle Mech stuffs. After that I'll have my structures midterm and then work. A real doozy of a day, and I'm likely to flip out if I'm not careful enough.

replies.

Mooncat: <<Just a note that Gargoyles the New Legends is now closed for season one>>: Wow that was fast. Good luck with that.

Patrick: <<I'd have been ready to kill hotel staff with extreme prejudice if I had to go through all that>>: Which is why we love having you on the con staff. <>: I wonder if that's a sexual thing or a mockery thing... <<No pop-top convenience when I was a kid... you had to take your chances with the razor sharp edges of the tin can>>: And the more people that died, the more meat for SPAM! Wondered where it came from, didn't you? <<What I want to know is why aren't Demona and Xanatos on the poll for favorite villian>>: I think we oughta smack them.

DPH: <<Do I need to start looking for another free email provider?>>: I would. Or try one that you pay for. <<Does that makes me really old?>>: Probably. <<Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain>>: Dude you made it rain here!

David G: <<A book that's stuck on the wrong shelf might as well not exist>>: That is so true. Few things are more frustrating then trying to find such a book. <<My job would be incredibly easy if it weren't for the patrons>>: I think that's true for all jobs that require human interaction.

Greg X: <<Where's the "Annual Really Big SJ Post" on them>>: Careful, he'll post and keep me awake all night replying. <>: It actually wasn't bad. Or do you have something against Crowe? <<I'm rooting for "Lord of the Rings" to win every award it's been nominated for>>: Yeah, cuz THAT will happen. <<Lee has apparantly been in more movies than any other actor alive>>: Hardly a distinction. Many movies are crap. <<Yes, you continue to think that>>: Only because I know I'm right. <>: Probably one of them. But not THE biggest dumbass. That title would have to go to someone like Marge Schott or something. <<this is the guy who thought that the first President was black, and there was a secret Racist conspiracy to cover it up>>: You mean he wasn't?! <<How much are you willing to pay for a vote?>>: Ten bucks. Fifteen if its a deciding vote. <<aside from Alison Hannigan, I think we have the same taste in women>>: I could say one name that would end that argument. But I won't in here. <>: And yet still inferior to CA. <<so's Robby and Lynati>>: I can't figure out how either of them made it. <<You and I think way too alike>>: Rather scary, I'd agree. <<Is that a compliment or an insult?>>: A compliment. Dennis Miller is my hero. Well, one of them. <<Shhuuuutttt Uuuuuuppppp>>: LOL! <<lots of others beautiful, evil and brilliant. I'm also attracted to women who can kick my ass>>: I do NOT want a girl that can kick my ass. That would make me afraid. <<All evil people need an evil mate, or at least an evil concubine>>: Nope. If you're evil, its much more satisifying to have a good concubine. <<Either sex or death>>: If you ask Shakespeare, those are the same thing. <<to a place where the liquor is cheap and the chicks are hot and easy>>: LA? Come on down! <<you'd have to be f-cking by the end of the day>>: You'd have to be pretty slick or she'd have to be pretty easy. <>: I'd like to shoot jaywalkers. <<Where's my Oscar nomination?>>: You weren't nominated. But I was. <<Nice guys finish last you know>>: So true. And chicks dig jerks anyway.

Lain: <<were gonna have to start talking about our SEX LIVES or something scary like that>>: No thanks. You guys don't want to know. And I don't want to tell...yet. <<my dad used to make me eat it>>: Proof that he is an abusive father.

Gside: <<digital signal processing. Sampling and quantization and convolution, oh my>>: My friend took that class last year. Nearly failed it. <<Spam fairies>>: There are spam fairies!? <<No? But I hear they like it>>: They do. But I don't know where that's been, and that's not the type of girl I'm likely to do that for. <<Are you sure they're coders?>>: Yes. The good coders write all the code in the first hour of the project, then spend the next three weeks before the due date debugging it. <<Those must be some huge steamrollers>>: They'll be specially built for the purpose of demolishing this cursed area. <<Unless porn counts>>: Well, if we're talking about our sex lives, then you're talking about porn. It's all relative.

Dreamie: Welcome back. Long time no oogle. <<6:30-9:30 chemistry labs SUCK>>: Talk to the hand. Mine were 4 hours. < <<Wolfie and I went to a nice Italian place where my brother works (Employee discount, SCORE!>>: Ha ha Wolfie's a cheapskate. <<box of Godiva Chocolates>>: What, no whipped cream? <>: And I thought my neighbors were weird. <<Or depo prevera to stop them altogether!>>: Does that delay menopause too? <<How would that be different from any other day?>>: For you or for me? <<You cant draw blood from a stone>>: Talk to Jesus. <<slaps josh and cuddles with Dreamie>>: Fight me all you want, doesn't make it any less true. <<Whoever guesses the weekly secret number gets a cookie and a lapel pin>>: 69! <<pleasantly plump patchwork rear end>>: Why are you examining your cat's rear end? <<You'd only get some sort of alien-looking scribbling>>: Somehow, I think he'd learn to read it. <>: There should be more important things in your lap than a tablet. That's what desks are for. <<Josh dont touch that comment>>: Der. Did you really think that would stop me? <>: Quick! Check the temperature in detroit! <<The pedal's to the floor and it's only going 22!>>: Dodge Neon!? Where do you people find these cars?

Well everyone think happy thoughts. I need a job this summer!

Think positive. Sooner or later, everyone you hate will die.
-Unknown

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 02:32:51 AM
IP: 64.170.152.83

Hey hey!
Back from a long period of lurking... for a bit anyway. I've been kept pretty busy with college and artwork and of course spending most of my freetime with wolfie, which includes going to the gym with him four times a week which takes up even more time. I gotta say.... 6:30-9:30 chemistry labs SUCK, but at least it's only every two weeks. ;) Valentine's day was fun, Wolfie and I went to a nice Italian place where my brother works (Employee discount, SCORE!), I got a cute card from wolfie and a little box of Godiva Chocolates we bought to try our hand at the "Win a 4krt diamond ring!" contest. Didn't win of course... but oh well it was platinum anyway, bleh. ^_~ We had a nice three day weekend of treasure hunting at antique shops around the greater Seattle area, and found the perfect item we were looking for. (I love antique stores and garage sales... so many neat things inaccurately priced. Heh.) Other than that... I saw my neighbor taking pictures of a pair of humping raccoons last night... which is odd since I've never seen raccoons around here. They then went digging in my yard for squirrel-buried peanuts. O.o

Josh:<<Anyway, many women take birth control pills precisely to keep themselves on a predictable cycle.>> Or depo prevera to stop them altogether! <<Yes yes! And then the oral sex! ;-)>> How would that be different from any other day? <> You cant draw blood from a stone. :} <<Even though I'm always right and Dreamie's just as arrogant as I am.
>> Wolfie wanted to add: " *slaps josh and cuddles with Dreamie* "

Leo: <<Why is everyone counting?>> Whoever guesses the weekly secret number gets a cookie and a lapel pin. :] Welcome to the CR! ^_^

Vash: :::GLOMP::: Can I call you sis? ;)

Spacebabie: <<she swallowed one of my sewing needles>> YIKES! @.o Hope she'll be ok!

Mooncat:<<kitten does not have the same coloring as the genetic parent
>> Aw... then I cant clone my calico to get the same attitude and pleasantly plump patchwork rear end? :} <<Well, I just got my hair cut. From waist length (when it's wet) to shoulder length. YIKES!!!>> :::Faints with a loud cur-CLUNK:::

GXB:<<Dreamie drew it, but the original design was Lynati's and Mara helped out with it also.>> 'cept the clothes :)

SJ:<<(unless we’re talking about Winterwolf & Dreamie, in which case I want detailed notes).>> You'd only get some sort of alien-looking scribbling, so no. ;)

Niamhgold: <<wacom size> Mine's a 12 by 12.... and man.. you're getting a 12 by 17? I have problems fitting this one on my lap. (Josh dont touch that comment ^_~)

Siryn:<<Do you think Dreamie would let me know how she made those asweom wings at 2000?>> I could give you a bunch of pointers if that would help. Email me if you want to.

Thanks all for your comments to wolfie and I about the site ^_^

Wolfie: I love you my fuzzy cuddle-Wolfie! ^_^ :::Kiss cuddle nuzzle:::

I think that's about it...
Toodles! ^_^

"The pedal's to the floor and it's only going 22!!"
~Me and my Dodge Neon
Dreamie
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 01:52:32 AM
IP: 172.182.149.244

Imzadi> <<First midterm of the semester is Wednesday, in structural engineering>>: 8:00AM (ten minutes before first period) Thursday in digital signal processing. Sampling and quantization and convolution, oh my.
<<How'd it get there?>>: Spam fairies.
<<Starcraft!>>: Daily Smashing. And occaisonal DII.
<>: No? But I hear they like it.
<<Oh, not in this project>>: Are you sure they're coders?
<<OUCH!>>: I must confess, that wasn't mine originally. I nicked it from the FMH entry in the Jargon File.
<<Let the big steamrollers go through it, just like in SimCity 2k>>: Those must be some huge steamrollers.
<<What is a cucumber sprite?>>: Like a Banana Fiend, but less powerful and with cucumbers instead.

Greg> <<Lee has apparantly been in more movies than any other actor alive>>: 228 major roles, plus two that he produced, and 28 TV guest appearances. As well as being the alleged center of the acting universe, according to the Oracle of Bacon.
<<Has he ever been nominated for an Oscar?>>: Apparently not, but he's gotten stuff from the Acadamy of SF Fant & Horror Films, Catalonian International Film Festival, the Empire Awards, Fantafestival, Fantasporto, and one current nomination from the Screen Actor's Guild. And he has met Tolkein.

Lain> <<were gonna have to start talking about our SEX LIVES or something scary like that>>: I won't be able to say much there. Unless porn counts.
<<its not really THAT bad if you fry it up and have it in an omlette or something>>: Eggs and spam? How about spam eggs spam sausage and spam?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 01:12:12 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Patrick > well, my experience with RadCon just reaffirmed for me what an utterly KICK ASS job we did on G2001 ... ; )

Niamhgold > would a few more days make a difference? I'm actually ahead of the game with AvMists, so I could take a few late submissions, especially art. I wasn't planning on posting until the end of the month anyway, and wanted to give the new editor time to write a welcoming letter or something.

AvMists > see above ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:07:23 AM
IP: 64.24.214.202

*enters, hyperventalating*

OOOOOMMMMMGGG!!!!! 24 SOOOOO GOOOOOOOD!!!!!
*pant gasp wheeze!*

ferget angel! im watchin THIS show from now on!!!!!!

***********24 spoilers************
i wonder whats going to happen to the presidential candidate now that someone saw him on the scene where the doctor was killed.. RIGHT after he was killed.. hmmmm..

soooooooo tense!!!!!! the music and that split screen thingy they do! oh my goodness. a tv show hasnt got me sitting THAT much on the edge of my chair for a verrrry loooong time! why arent you people posting reviews and spoilers in here!!! arent you watching?!!? WATCH!!!! its on again on friday!!!! WAAAATCH!!!!!!!
my heart is still beating fast... *whew* cant WAIT for next week!!!!!! ARGH!!! stupid smart screenwriter.. whoever it is.. make me nutty with suspense.. (nuttiER..)
*pant pant*
okay..
i think im okay now..
WAAAATTTCH IT!!!!!!!!!!
**********END 24 SPOILERS*************

yeah.. so anyways.. thats about all i had to say..

im sure youre all horrendously disappointed. :P

greg b>> yeah, it IS slow in here.. whats something controvertial to talk about?
death penalty?
us foreign relations? (no wait.. i think weve beaten that one to death..)
the olympics? (yeah yeah so they gave the canadians the gold for pairs ice dance. im a canadian and *IM* gettin tired of hearing about it! dont OTHER people deserve coverage, too? :P)
..cauliflower?
good grief, if we dont think of something to talk about, were gonna have to start talking about our SEX LIVES or something scary like that.....

re: SPAM.. good factoids, patrick.. :D you ever eaten spam? i thought i was the only one.... i recall its not really THAT bad if you fry it up and have it in an omlette or something. my dad used to make me eat it.. with baked beans. or spam and HP sauce sandwiches.. eeigh.. anyway, theres only one SPAM factory left in the WORLD now.. outside liverpool, in england. poor spam. it has such a bad rap.

anyway, love,
lain - [<< www.spam.com, for all your spam needs..]
the Great White North
Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:41:58 PM
IP: 64.228.199.146

Ah the Oscars are coming up. Where's the "Annual Really Big SJ Post" on them.

I didn't see that many movies this year. All I saw were "Hannibal", "Shrek", "Atlantis" (which I only saw cause Team Atlanis was not yet cancelled), "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back", "Rock Star" (which sucked ass), and "Lord of the Rings". A few jems here and there, but overall a bad year for movies. I refuse to go see "A Beautiful Mind".

But I will be watching the Oscars this year, because a movie I actually care about is a major contender. I'm rooting for "Lord of the Rings" to win every award it's been nominated for. I do think though that Ian McKellen should have gotten nominated for Best Actor rather than Best Supporting Actor and the latter nomination should have gone to either Sean Bean or Christopher Lee. Lee has apparantly been in more movies than any other actor alive. Has he ever been nominated for an Oscar?

JOSH> <<Yeah like you'd ever smack me.>> Yes, you continue to think that ;) <> But ere are so many dead people that are still worth bashing. I think we can all agree that Neville Chamberlain was one of the biggest dumbasses in the history of the planet Earth. <<You'd be surprised how many virgins I know who know better.>> Yeah, but this is the guy who thought that the first President was black, and there was a secret Racist conspiracy to cover it up. <<Doesn't matter, I insist on a vote anyway!>> How much are you willing to pay for a vote? <> Oh come on, aside from Alison Hannigan, I think we have the same taste in women. <> The state of swamps. As cool as alligators are, I think NY is superior to Florida in just about every way. <<Though quite frankly I can't figure out why no one's pitching LA again.>> You never know. <<LOL! But I don't think that's true. Because you could have started really soon before V-day. On the other hand, maybe you'll get it ON V-day if you're all slick-like.>> Very true. <<All of them, now that would be funny.>> Yeah, the evil environmentalist vs the evil lawyers. <<I'm in the definition of evil!? Sweet!>> Yeah, so's Robby and Lynati. <<LOL! Exactly what I posted!>> You and I think way too alike. <<You should be a writer for dennis Miller.>> Is that a compliment or an insult? <<Personally, I'd prefer it over here 8-)>> Shhuuuutttt Uuuuuuppppp. <<And we'd love to have you.>> Glad to know that. <<None of the single males in here are into the whole "innocent christian girl" thing, catholic schoolgirl fantasies aside.>> Gotta agree, no offense Daph. My ideal woman is Demona, and I have a thing for women like Fox, Faith, Mazikeen, Talia al Ghul, lots of others beautiful, evil and brilliant. I'm also attracted to women who can kick my ass. All evil people need an evil mate, or at least an evil concubine. Hmmm, did Sauron have any concubines in Barad-dur? <<Symbolic of what, exactly?>> Either sex or death. <<Because that is the best location, period. You can't get as many stars anywhere else.>> I agree. <> Who cares?

REVEL> <> Don't we all? I'm all for a vacation to a place where the liquor is cheap and the chicks are hot and easy.

SPACEBABIE> <<Unless you started the relationship on Valentines day.>> Nah, you'd have to be f-cking by the end of the day. Sorry ;)

GB> <> Hey, did you see anyone chop the hands off of shoplifters? I think we should do that here.

NIAMHGOLD> <<Yeah, but both you and Greg are the actors I hired to play yourselves.>> I'm an actor and I wasn't informed? Wow, I must be good. Where's my Oscar nomination?

DPH> <<Thanks for providing a list of people I shouldn't room with.>> That's okay, either they're not coming or they've already got a roommate. <<Sorry, but if you have conceded I can't be evil, then you can see obvious personality conflicts.>> I never said you were evil, I just thought you were trying to be evil and doing a bad job of it ;) Now I have a question for you? What's so great about being good? Nice guys finish last you know.

Damn, is it slow in here. Someone start something soon, please. SJ, you got anything you need to vent?
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:09:23 PM
IP: 216.179.3.107

DPH> I've never seen an overstaffed library, either. A physical inventory would be pretty hard, though.

Think about it. Books are constantly being checked out, checked back in, and just plain moved around. Someone doing inventory would have no way to account for books that are physically in the library, but not in their proper shelf location.

Good libraries (which mine is sometimes) do have "shelf readers" who go from section to section putting things in their proper order, but there are hardly ever enough of them to keep ahead of obnoxious, larcenious and "helpful" patrons.

It's a shame, too. A book that's stuck on the wrong shelf might as well not exist. The computer has no way of knowing its physical location beyond "in" or "out" (not strictly accurate, but close enough for our purposes). Unless someone is very through, or very lucky it could sit there forever.

Then there's theft. It's not hard to steal books from the library once you know how. If a book is stolen while its status is "in" then it might be a long time before anybody notices.

I hate patrons. My job would be incredibly easy if it weren't for the patrons. :P
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, February 19, 2002 05:49:49 PM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Imzadi - <No, its a sign that they're losing money.> Let me see if this logic sounds right: Mail.com is losing money so it can't afford to buy more computers to keep its speed up. Since mail.com can't afford to keep its speed, it will lose users. Since mail.com will lose users, less ads will be viewed. Since mail.com will have less ads being viewed, that will lead to mail.com losing even more money. Do I need to start looking for another free email provider?

Patrick - <And if you're old enough (like me), you'll also know that you used to have to open the can by winding around the outside with a little key.> I remember some cans having to be opened like that when I was younger. Does that makes me really old?

Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain.

I have a candidate for the Darwin awards. At night, a person misses a road to turn on and goes down a driveway. The person thinks the driveway is full circle, but the driveway isn't. That person's car gets stuck in mud. Whose driveway? Mine. Whose car? Not mine, but NOYDB.

Time to go to the library to see if the damn book I want to check out has been returned YET. Odds are 50:50, the computer software is faulty and the book has not been returned. The library didn't have the book. I am beginning to believe that it would be pretty damn hard for a library to be overstaffed, considered they could always have someone doing inventory of existing books.

Talk about a slow day.

In a few minutes it's time to test out a theory about cooking something new by mixing two recipes together.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, February 19, 2002 05:41:27 PM
IP: 204.94.193.19

Josh> Like I said, I may just need to play with the control panel. The volume may just be set low.

I still probably want additional speakers for DVDs, since the onboard ones aren't all that hot. Buffy is a rerun tonight, so I may go shopping after work this evening. I know I want a new mouse, and I think I'll see what's available in the way of speakers.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Tuesday, February 19, 2002 08:52:12 AM
IP: 198.215.20.3

Christine > Welcome back. Man... you and Tim were sure good natured about the hotel room stuff. I'd have been ready to kill hotel staff with extreme prejudice if I had to go through all that.

Fire Storm > "Then why does he continue to dress as women?" - I just like to choose masquerade costumes that will keep people talking about me for years to come. Plus Eden and Crzy encourage me 'cause I guess they can't get enough of seeing me in tights. ;)

Spam factoids > The name is an abreviation of "spiced ham", and it was originally created for the military. And if you're old enough (like me), you'll also know that you used to have to open the can by winding around the outside with a little key. No pop-top convenience when I was a kid... you had to take your chances with the razor sharp edges of the tin can.

Disney movies > I suppose even "Bambi," "Peter Pan," or "The Lion King" could be scary to someone young enough. But then again, little that Disney does seems to have any real logic to it. What I want to know is why aren't Demona and Xanatos on the poll for favorite villian.

GB > Welcome back from Istanbul (not Constantinople).

"Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.
Why'd they change it? I can't say.
People just liked it better that way..."

Patrick Toman
Tuesday, February 19, 2002 07:11:25 AM
IP: 66.72.202.116

Hi, Just a note that Gargoyles the New Legends is now closed for season one. We have about 8 or 9 people already and that fills our maximum for now. Thanks everyone for their interest. If you would still like to be a part of the group, please contact me privately and I'll put you on a wait list for vacancies.

Again thanks everyone.
Mooncat >^,,^<
Mooncat
Tuesday, February 19, 2002 07:07:35 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

I sat around most of today. Did some homework, worked the phones for a few hours, but nothing big. I really need to figure out a way to do more work with all the free time I seem to have. I should have been able to do a lot more in the whole day. Cursed television.

First midterm of the semester is Wednesday, in structural engineering. Shouldn't be too hard, but I hear its really long. We get 3 hours to take it.

replies

Metaldemon: <>: Maybe they'll filter out all the repeat votes later. <<Jeez, I go away for twenty minutes and it's back down to fourth>>: There's another group of jackasses out there who keep voting for Cat from Outer Space.

Crzy: <<it's up against movies like "The Cat from Outer Space" and "Darby O' Gill and the Little People">>: Hey those were scary too! Scary that they're this popular...

Revel: <<Four weeks till spring break, I need a vacation again something terrible>>: I hear you. I just need to get out of this city. 31 days. 31 days. 31 days. I can do it. <<Four long weeks of mid term papers and projects, could be worse, I could be in a math class>>: I have midterms and labs, but no papers. <<it takes real talent to ham it up that badly. He is one of my favorite actors, to see that just makes me laugh>>: I wonder if he did that on purpose. If he read the script and said "you expect me to SAY this?!" and then just screwed it up. <<Watched the first part of Run Lola Run in Philosophy today>>: Great movie! I saw it for the first time about a week ago. <<it's always good to be friends with th RA so you never get in trouble, that's my theory>>: In this case, I think it'd be fun to be sleeping with the RA too. <<where are all the cybernetics that they promised>>: I need an exo suit! <<as long as someone hits Gates with a pie again that's all I care about>>: Maybe the judge will. <<Mmmm, I like pie.>>: Jay Sherman or Homer Simpson? <<Is that a statement or a request?>>: LOL. So true.

Leo: <<SPAM in the place where I live>>: How'd it get there? <<Those indigenous to the region say "NAW-fok">>: And everytime I say it my parents tell me watch my tongue.

Spacebabie: <>: I get that with most anime too. <>: Want me to massage it for you? <>: There's hair on your ankle? <<Wonderful cat medince tastes better than our medicine>>: Because unlike animals, we'll eat sh*t if someone tells us its healthy. <<My mother works there in the seafoon dept>>: What is a seafoon? <>: Exactly why it will be a good fight. The state government can't sh*t without the permission of the federal gov't, yet they're gonna try. <>: My point is that there are many things that can change it. <<That’s why God made feathers,oils, whip cream and strawberry’s>>: God did not make whipped cream. All the other stuff I'm in favor of. <<The first letters of the names of numbers in proper order>>: I see. <<Ahh @$$ dough or as my brother calls it “Sitting on your butt and wait for the money to come.”>>: Pretty much, yeah! <<Unless you started the relationship on Valentines day>>: In which case you'd better be gettin' some. <<You better not let Josh see what you wrote about chocolate.>>: Too late.

Green Baron: <>: No, its named Los Angeles.

The Wizard: <>: All evidence to the contrary. <<I'm just attempting to catch up so that I don't have a ton of work to do over spring break>>: Isn't it a bit early to start worrying about Spring Break? ;-) <<the guys have been doing a nice job keeping my calm with random video games>>: Starcraft! <<my dad's excited because he's getting Lasik surgery tomorrow>>: Best of luck. <<He gets to be my test dummy>>: Interesting way to refer to your parents... <<Why don't you start with something simply, like a wooden spoon, and if that works move on to a big splintered piece of wood?>>: I want to go right to inflicting massive amounts of pain. <<Personally, I think the LA Times was overreacting. We've heard no news of this here>>: Or maybe I'm just being paranoid. <<Seems like a chocolate bunny is in order. Maybe I'll just mail you a chocolate-covered Playboy bunny>>: I'd rather have the latter. I'd never eat the former...then again, I probably wouldn't eat the latter either ;-) <<Hmm, interesting...would it require relocation?>>: Absolutely. <<Not so high...>>: And dropping, apparently. <<Someone could be dealing with an Oedipal complex>>: Ugh. <<because the b!tch probably would have expected you to give her something other than...well, that>>: Depends on the girl. <<You are a sick, sick soul>>: Yes I am. But you already knew that. <<Sony vaio laptops may be tads heavier, but they've got all the features of the most jacked-up iBook for the price of the least-jacked-up iBook. And they aren't ugly as sin>>: That's totally subject to opinion. Of course, obviously most artists don't think they're ugly as sin, which leads to the logical conclusion: you aren't normal ;-) <<DeBeers. Because she'll pretty much have to.>>: Damn straight! <<You probably do, but I won't tell you>>: Fine then! <<Wait until I make canollis...mmmmm>>: Want... <<I've never seen a math major, let alone a "female" one. Are they mythical beasts like Loch Ness?>>: No, they're real. And much scarier. <>: I'm gonna do similar to SF. <<Can he disarm a Banana Fiend?>>: No, but BANANAMAN can! <<Would these be M&Ms with nuts?>>: because sometimes you feel like a nut. Then again, sometimes you don't. <>: I don't understand this. Supposedly all of microsoft's stuff is supposed to work really well together. So if you're gonna go with one, aren't you gonna go with them all? Isn't that the whole point?

David G: <<the onboard sound isn't loud enough>>: No feature to force the system volume higher?

DPH: <<Isn't that a sign that they will get in trouble soon due to complaints?>>: No, its a sign that they're losing money. <<Thanks for providing a list of people I shouldn't room with>>: You don't know what you're missing! <<Speak for yourself>>: I usually do. <<The definition of evil would be doing what is best for yourself, regardless of consequences>>: Define "regardless". <<I'd still like to know how many people died because of what Jarod thought up>>: I'm sure no one knows. <>: How could he know for sure?

Gside: <<Want to trade wetworks?>>: Not particularly. <<No code is written before the last hour>>: Oh, not in this project. <<after that is the piledriver and 16 feet of curare-tipped wrought-iron fence _and no lubricants_>>: OUCH! <>: No you don't. You don't know what you're missing. I'm desperate here! <<where are you going to find any flat land in NH?>>: Let the big steamrollers go through it, just like in SimCity 2k. <<Cucumber Sprites>>: What is a cucumber sprite? <<After the three month soul sucking period, it stops huring>>: No, I don't think so.

Alright, class tomorrow. Start the three-day week.

If you do that again, I will be forced to hurt you with extreme prejudice.
-Brain, "Pinky and the Brain"

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, February 19, 2002 02:17:56 AM
IP: 64.170.152.83

Imzadi> <<Which is already the lowest form of humor>>: Exactly.
<>: It wasn't much. Mostly a lot of digging.
<>: Want to trade wetworks?<<Today was my roommate's second day meeting with his group, and they haven't written a single line of code yet>>: No code is written before the last hour.
<<My little brother?>>: No, far, far worse.

Seo> <<how about: SPAM in the place where I live>>: Nah, Python has the more classic oldschool spam going for it.

Niamhgold> <<Why don't you start with something simply, like a wooden spoon, and if that works move on to a big splintered piece of wood?>>: And after that is the piledriver and 16 feet of curare-tipped wrought-iron fence _and no lubricants_.
<<Maybe I'll just mail you a chocolate-covered Playboy bunny>>: Hey, I need it much more desparately than him.
<>: But where are you going to find any flat land in NH?
<<Can he disarm a Banana Fiend?>>: Not yet, but he's doing well against Cucumber Sprites.
<<Would these be M&Ms with nuts?>>: Any kind of M&M you desire.
<>: After the three month soul sucking period, it stops huring.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Tuesday, February 19, 2002 01:53:53 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Well... i need a life... i have lil to no coputer access and need another job to pay for my car to be registerred in PA and insured in my name... not to mention payig my fiancee's car off and some of his other bills... ::sighs:: anyone got about $12000 they want to loan me... i'll pay you back... in about 10 years... or with the first sword forged by the company I'm trying to start..... or any other jewelry or craft.... just give me time to get the equip set up :-p

anyway.... life goes on.. i'm living.... tho i dont have a life.. go figure.

if you want to reach me... e-mail..... eventually i'll get back to you... i think :-p
Aingeal
Lonely, PA
Tuesday, February 19, 2002 01:18:05 AM
IP: 216.220.164.128

number..ONE selection..number ONE...oh geez...
Anonymous
Monday, February 18, 2002 09:40:42 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

YIKES!! Don't mean to span here ppl!

Just noticed that Princess Mononoke is the number selection right now. I wonder if that means we are up against a strong anime fandom group somewhere out there on the web..cuz..I find that ..funny. Funny that that particular movie would be number one on the Disney site. I don't know why. Just ..wondering..

Vote vote! :D
Lexy
Monday, February 18, 2002 09:37:46 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

No wonder Disney is punishing me..I can't even spell their name right... -_-;
Lexy
Monday, February 18, 2002 09:31:58 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

Shadowrider- GOOD GOODNESS! Your right! How cool is this?? Hey ppl. Not to be annoying..but VOTE:D

Is anyone else surprised that Disny is offering Gargs on so many of it's polls? I like this....Yes...This is very interesting.

Shawdorider: Make sure to keep a hold of that link! *saves it herself*

Lexy
Monday, February 18, 2002 09:31:10 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

Mail.com is running at record speeds - really slow. Isn't that a sign that they will get in trouble soon due to complaints?

GXB - <<Being evil depends on your definition.> Myself, Aaron, Mara, Josh, SJ, Jen, Wilek> Thanks for providing a list of people I shouldn't room with. Sorry, but if you have conceded I can't be evil, then you can see obvious personality conflicts.

Imzadi - <None of the single males in here are into the whole "innocent christian girl" thing, catholic schoolgirl fantasies aside.> Speak for yourself. <Its challenging on every windows since 3.1> Sorry, but I had no problems avoiding it on Windows 95.

Leo - <<how many people try to spell it 'Norfork'?> That's the way I want to spell it, though. It seems more natural than Norfolk.

BTW, I am adopting a new definition of good: considering other people's feelings and doing what is best for them rather than what is best for yourself. The definition of evil would be doing what is best for yourself, regardless of consequences.

I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil. I'm not evil.

I am thinking about experimenting in cooking: With any luck, I'll love what the results.

BTW, I finally saw the pilot for Pretender. Note: I'd still like to know how many people died because of what Jarod thought up. I would also like Jarod to try to find out what would have happenned if he hadn't been kidnapped by the Centre or what would have happenned if he had been kidnapped later in life.

Spacebabie - <How about those peanut butter sandwich cookies and the oatmeal raison ones they have?> Sure. <You better not let Josh see what you wrote about chocolate.> Too late because he has already commented about it.

DPH
AR, USA
Monday, February 18, 2002 08:02:57 PM
IP: 204.94.193.73

Ehm...did anyon else other than me notice that "Gargoyles: The Heroes Awaken" is votable eventually for the "Top 10 Movies of the 90's"? If it is so, I post the link. By the way, the first in graduatory for now is another of my preferred ones, "Princess Mononoke"...:)

Here is the link: http://studio.go.com/cgi-bin/quiz/quiz.cgi?pass=1&def=moviefinder_vote_90s&Q1=22

Or click my name!
Shadowrider - [<<--- Vote Gargs for Top Movie of 90's]
Monday, February 18, 2002 07:54:18 PM
IP: 213.213.100.216

Hi ya'll. I had the day off, so I took my girlfriend to the Ft. Worth Zoo. That was fun. It was a nice, cool day, but not too cold.

The new Laptop should be ready to go by tomorrow or Wednsday. I have one recalcitrant piece of software to track down, and I need to go buy a new mouse and some speakers. I played a DVD last night. The picture quality's impressive, but the onboard sound isn't loud enough. (Maybe I need to mess around with sound settings)

Anyway, talk to ya'll later.
David G. - [david_goodner@yahoo.com]
Arlington, TX, USA
Monday, February 18, 2002 07:32:57 PM
IP: 216.50.249.229

Crazy D. is right. Gargoyles may NOT have been the spookiest movie, (I personally don't think it was by a long shot)but that is not the point. The point is that when ppl vote for gargs, they are showing Disney that it made an impression on us. That we remember it, and are not ashamed to say so. Disney is going to read Gargs possible win on this as _interest_. Which is just what we want! :D I am blanking on that last voting thing we did..was that T.V Guide? I have it printed out and laminated somewhere..(but I just moved..so I don't know what box it's in) But anyhow, that was an important win for us also. We don't get offered a lot of chances to show that we exist, so even if 'gargs wasn't the spookiest' we need to vote for it, to show fans exist. :)

BTW I feel bad getting credit for this! I just posted linkee's! I know that doing that makes things easier, so it's important to do for ppl who are very busy:) But that is ALL I did! *LOL* However, I would have done more if I had gotten the chance! :D GO GARGS!!! Thanx to all who took the time to vote!!
Lexy
Monday, February 18, 2002 06:53:26 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

** Niamhgold enters **

Okay, I really don't have much to say. I spent most of the weekend down with the flu, and now I'm just attempting to catch up so that I don't have a ton of work to do over spring break. It's tiring, but I'm making time (thankfully). I got to talk to a good friend on the phone last night, which was nicely de-stressing, and the guys have been doing a nice job keeping my calm with random video games. I always have to appreciate that. Oh, and my dad's excited because he's getting Lasik surgery tomorrow. He gets to be my test dummy.

Replies:

Susej: <F*CK UNITED AIRLINES IN THE @$$ WITH A BIG SPLINTERED PIECE OF WOOD> Well, _that_ was a little explicit. Why don't you start with something simply, like a wooden spoon, and if that works move on to a big splintered piece of wood? <And now I'm running the risk that they'll go bankrupt and I'll be stuck here> Personally, I think the LA Times was overreacting. We've heard no news of this here. Seems like a chocolate bunny is in order. Maybe I'll just mail you a chocolate-covered Playboy bunny ;) <Mostly because you hate them ;-)> But now the fourth is sick, and I feel bad. <How come when I break up with a girl I don't have the rest crawling all over me? <How come when I break up with a girl I don't have the rest crawling all over me?> Good question, I guess. <Must I prove it?> Of course. <Chicks really do dig the car> Yeah, to some extent. <Payment in massage oil and other fun stuffs> Hmm, interesting...would it require relocation? LOL it's one of the best :) <That's what you get for having a high purity score> Not so high... <How could that be confusing?> Someone could be dealing with an Oedipal complex. <I'm pretty sure we're not. I met her> Yeah, but both you and Greg are the actors I hired to play yourselves. <Oh, if only I'd been with a cute chick today> Naw, because the b!tch probably would have expected you to give her something other than...well, that ;) <Woohoo I've converted another one!> You are a sick, sick soul. Sony vaio laptops may be tads heavier, but they've got all the features of the most jacked-up iBook for the price of the least-jacked-up iBook. And they aren't ugly as sin. <Yes yes! And then the oral sex! ;-)> "DeBeers. Because she'll pretty much have to." <<<<Okay, I'm going to buy popsicles>>: I don't want to know> You probably do, but I won't tell you>

Spacebabie: <:::Fills her bag with more Cookies:::> Ooh, thank you thank you! Wait until I make canollis...mmmmm.

Christine: I tried to meet the last deadline of Avalon Mists, but with my workload...it doesn't look like I'll be able to. Sorry :( But I can't wait to see what the final piece looks like!

FS: <Whale is more like it.> I've never seen a math major, let alone a "female" one. Are they mythical beasts like Loch Ness? I plan to pave NH and turn it into Massachusetts's parking lot. <Made me realize how poorly I lit scenes> Lighting is hard^TM. But if they're bad renders...you can always keep them in the dark ;) Heh. We're such slackers.

Claire: <p.s if anyone knows any movie producers please tell me coz i want to be an actor)> Sorry, they're all busy at the moment.

Gside: <He's a lumberjack, and he's okay> Can he disarm a Banana Fiend? <Well, I would start by luring M&M obsessed females into my grasp, and it just goes down hill from there> Would these be M&Ms with nuts? <I've always found Microsoft hardware quite solid> I don't want anything I own, except Windows, having Microsoft's stamp on it.

Adios
Niamhgold
Monday, February 18, 2002 06:14:01 PM
IP: 206.41.204.144

Greetings to all in the CR. I have been to Paradise and it is named Istanbul..not Constantinople. I had Turksih delighgt on a moonlit night (and it was very good).

More on that tommorrow, though. For now I announce my return and encourage all to see this marvel of teh ancient world when it grows affordable. I am enamoured of the city and it reminds me of New York (which was New Amsterdam), only much safer and cheaper. I love the otehrwordly setting of the palace-like mosques and of course the Hagia Sophia was soemthing i ahev wante dtos ee since I was 12. For now, I will just absorb all the good fortune and beauty I have experienced.

Gaurdian> Thanks fro posting. I am glad to have a fellow defender of the faith in here. For a while, I thought I was the only one.

Tradition is the democracy of the Dead
-GK Chesterton
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau
Monday, February 18, 2002 02:17:32 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

My brother was feeling sick yesterday. He was actually nice to me. They were working on the porch ceiling too and the power to the tv went out. I wouldn't have minded exept I was watching my Slayers TRY DVD.

My brother was on the computer at the same time
"I can't watch this. It reminds me of Pokemon"
Me:"This is much more serious than Pokemon."
Him:"I know but it has all the voices."

Small Spoilers for TRY

Queen of Baritone"Prepare for Canon fire."
Brother:"I thought she was gpoing to say prepare for trouble."
ME:"So did I."

End slight very slight spoilers.

I also managed to pull a muscle in my thigh while doing situps.. Don't ask me how. I even did my warm ups first. Then after I was done with my bath I knickded my ankle shaving.

Spooky is doing well. She is eating and going to the bathroom with no trouble at all. I have to give her antibiotics and her medicine smells like bananas and I bet it tastes like it too. Wonderful cat medince tastes better than our medicine.

Winn Dixie now has sushi, My mother works there in the seafoon dept and she brought plenty home on saturday. It's better than the crap they have at target but I made the dipping sauce too hot cause my nose burned and my eyes watered.

Replies:
Warpmind<<<A word of advice: when you're out at any manner of public place, and a young asian-looking girl wearing something resembling a school uniform appears, don't look confused>>>No problem here.<<<If you do, don't be too surprised when she asks what you're thinking about.>>>If I list all the thoughts that were rambling in my head she would get confused.<<<If *that* happens, well... any sentence beginning with the word "cephlapoid" should be avoided at all costs.>>>Unless you say “I wonder if the cafeteria is serving fried calamari again.”

Josh<<<Saturdays are nice too>>>Saturdays are the best<<<turns out that she's taking our cat in to have that lump removed without even bothering to find out what it is. Sounds like a good idea to me, since she refuses to pay for chemo for a cat (and while I love my cat, I don't blame her).>>>I hope your cat will be okay.<<<Nevada plans to fight it, of course...but they haven't a prayer. But it'll be a good fight.>>> I thought the government has a lot of control in Nevada. Afterall it’s the crashed UFO dumping site state.<<<Lovely.>>>Atleast it’s out.<<<Many things can cause alterations in your regular cycle. Maybe you didn't have enough fruits and vegetables this month, or maybe the price of rice in china is below world standards. Anyway, many women take birth control pills precisely to keep themselves on a predictable cycle. >>>I eat plenty of vegetables and I don’t need the pill….yet<<<BORING!>>>That’s why God made feathers,oils, whip cream and strawberry’s.<<<Out of curiosity, what was the acronym?>>>The first letters of the names of numbers in proper order.<<<Yes, that's 10 hours of being paid to sit in front of my computer and chat with you guys. >>>Ahh @$$ dough or as my brother calls it “Sitting on your butt and wait for the money to come.”

GXB<<<If you're not banging them by V-Day then the relationship is not worth pursuing ;) >>>Unless you started the relationship on Valentines day.

DPH<<<Can I trade the chocolate covered cookies for something else? I don't like chocolate that much.>>>How about those peanutbbuter sandwich cookies and the oatmeal raison ones they have? You better not let Josh see what you wrote about chocolate.

Firestorm<<<Since when did they rename the Samoas to Carmel Delights? At least call them coconut somethings!>>>When I used to be in Scouts they were called Kookaburras <<<Moulin Rouge... Man oh man... someone must have done ALOT of drugs and then listened to the radio to make that one!>>>That’s what I said, but man oh man is Ewan hot in that movie!

Spacebabie
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Monday, February 18, 2002 01:32:12 PM
IP: 65.230.86.52

Ooo LA again as a bid? That would b cool..

HEY! Darby O'gil and the little people IS scary!!! Especially the banshee scene and when the coach comes to take the girl away.. (of course, it was when I was litttle) ;) hehe..

Not that I didn't vote for Gargoyles...but darby is one of me childhood movies. ;)

Blah..Umm..I have nothing more contrastructive to say for today. Got lots of animation homework and a final later in the week. O.o;; (PLUS I have to meet with a trustee again and get the lowdown on printing about 30 copies of his book by the 14th.

Busy busy busy.. O.o;;;;;;
Siryn
Monday, February 18, 2002 12:08:31 PM
IP: 129.21.153.76

OK, last post I swear!!
Revel> LOL, I substituted for your teacher, Jody, one day. I was the guy who passed out quizzes and was talking to a guy about guitars and music. Remember? Perhaps not. I think that's funny though.
metaldemon
Monday, February 18, 2002 11:53:00 AM
IP: 129.120.35.51

metaldemon:<<DOH!!!! Jeez, I go away for twenty minutes and it's back down to fourth. grrrrr!!>> There probably are several Tim Burton fans out there who have the same idea you do.

DPH/Josh:<<<<how many people try to spell it 'Norfork'?>>: The real joke is in the proununciation.>> Those indigenous to the region say "NAW-fok".

Gside:<<Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam!...>> how about: SPAM in the place where I live...
Leo
Yorktown, VA, USA
Monday, February 18, 2002 11:46:31 AM
IP: 172.134.116.55

Me again ...

Revel > LOL, and if it had been anyone but TJ, you're right, it should have been. Just sadly out of character for the Teejster, alas ; )
Christine
Monday, February 18, 2002 11:43:28 AM
IP: 64.24.214.44

Hey, all! Back from RadCon. Which, this year, hit a new low for poor con organization. The program booklet contained bios for guests who weren't there. The 'pocket program' with all the panels was LAST year's (leftovers, evidently). Although CthulhuBob had sent in all the MIB gaming info six weeks before they still didn't have any of our games scheduled.

The hotel itself got into the act: first they claimed we had no room reserved, but Tim foiled them by producing his confirmation number. Then they stuck us in a tiny room with one bed. Then, when we bitched about that, they offered us a rollaway, which would have essentially taken up all the remaining floorspace in that dinky closet of a room. Then, when we bitched some more, they moved us to a much bigger room (though still one with only 1 bed, but they gave us the rollaway and at least there was room for it). Except, by way of punishment for all the hassle we caused them, they put us 3 doors down from the row of rooms reserved for Quark's Bar, the Sci Fi video room, and the hospitality suite. So quiet was not an option. Then, to really add to the festivities, the fire alarms went off half of the night on Saturday.

But, all that aside, we had a good time. There were only 4 authors in attendance, one of which was me (the others being John Dalmas, Patricia Briggs, and Kay Kenyon). So the panels were quite cozy and the others were all very nice and didn't snub me for being a poseur ; ) I may be a 'real writer,' but it'll be a long time before I consider myself a 'professional' writer. Yet they all made me feel most welcome and included me even in panels I wasn't technically scheduled for.

We had lots of interesting panels, on everything from Inventing Your Culture to what the LOTR and HP phenomena mean for fantasy as a genre. It's always fascinating to hear how other authors approach their work.

Tim repeated his smashing success with his large-scale OGRE game. I sold a couple of books. Becca got a kick out of the Critter Crunch (there were 2 bots this year on different frequencies, an improvement over last year when they were both on the same one -- a wedge vs. a spinner). The cat people actually showed up this time and brought an adolescent white tiger, beautiful animal. Had a slight problem with the day care room: I went up to retrieve Becca and the door was standing wide open, 3 or 4 kids were on their own watching videos, and it turned out the sitter had gone off to pick up someone who'd had a flat tire and not told anyone. So I ratted them out to the con information desk. That's no way to run a railroad.

A high point, too, was catching a not-advertised and probably highly illegal bootleg showing of a fabulous still-in-theaters, multiple-award-nominated flick ; )

After the con, we drove over and visited Mickee of TimeFare. She took us out to see the new studio, which is finally getting set up. Things are falling into place, so hopefully the audio version of Black Roses will be out soon. She is also very eager to see Gifted Children and Changeling Moon, so I need to get those polished up, make a few little corrections, and send them off to her.

We had a good trip, despite the hassles and a drive back in the rainy dark that was rather scary -- the lines on the pavement over Snoqualmie Pass all but disappear, making it hard to know which lane is which and people are whizzing past without a care in the world. And oh, but these long drives have become so much more bearable now that Becca has her little backseat TV/VCR!

Okay, other stuff:

Avalon Mists > down to the last week, everybody! Send in those votes, send in those submissions! This will be my last issue and I'd like it to be a good 'un! ; )

Mooncat > I think that if you really want to pursue your idea of a team saga, go for it. Heed Patrick, though -- he'd know better than most what sort of work and headaches you'd really be letting yourself in for. But it must also be pretty rewarding, becase otherwise no one would stick with it. I admire anybody willing and able to do that; I'm a horrible collaborator and must stand in awe of those who can work together without tearing each other to shreds.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, February 18, 2002 11:42:00 AM
IP: 64.24.214.44

Four weeks till spring break, I need a vacation again something terrible. Four long weeks of mid term papers and projects, could be worse, I could be in a math class.

FS- Actually as far as acing goes I have to give credit to Jeremy Irons, it takes real talent to ham it up that badly. He is one of my favorite actors, to see that just makes me laugh.

Lain- Watched the first part of Run Lola Run in Philosophy today, I think I see why you like this movie, although I want a clock like that one at the beginning, I'll fix it so that when it's mouth opens it will let out a belch.

sorow- congrats, it's always good to be friends with th RA so you never get in trouble, that's my theory ;)

mooncat- the heck with cloning, where are all the cybernetics that they promised. I need a new knee and right shoulder joint.

Josh- as long as someone hits Gates with a pie again that's all I care about. Mmmm, I like pie. ;)

"@#$*! me sideways, that's Aunt Margot!" and the next line by TJ should have said, "Is that a statement or a request?"

-part from Christine's fic, Hotwire, part my own sick imagination-

Later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Monday, February 18, 2002 11:41:01 AM
IP: 129.120.230.108

Jen> "Nightmare...." has been toppled ;)

Pardon the third post.
metaldemon
Monday, February 18, 2002 11:37:02 AM
IP: 129.120.35.51

Josh - <<Re: spooky movie: I hate to burst everyone's bubbles, but Gargs wasn't spooky.>> Yeah, but it's up against movies like "The Cat from Outer Space" and "Darby O' Gill and the Little People". :P

We are currently holding at #3. I doubt we can topple "Nightmare Before Christmas" ... we shall see.
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson - [<--- Keep the votes coming!]
Monday, February 18, 2002 11:19:22 AM
IP: 67.227.14.17

DOH!!!! Jeez, I go away for twenty minutes and it's back down to fourth. grrrrr!!
metaldemon
Monday, February 18, 2002 11:09:26 AM
IP: 129.120.35.51

Hehe, I am so busy at my half-@$$ first job, I sat and voted for Gargoyles for ten minutes in the spooky movie, and its now in FIRST PLACE!!!!. WOOHOOO!!!!!! I'll be doing this for next ten minutes just to make sure it doesn't topple ;) Real post later.
metaldemon
Monday, February 18, 2002 10:30:08 AM
IP: 129.120.35.51

Another lazy day. Woke up at about 1, and "worked" from 2 to midnight or so. Yes, that's 10 hours of being paid to sit in front of my computer and chat with you guys.

I really should try and do this job more often, but I can only get my negotiated fee when I'm desperately needed.

In addition to "work", I kind of hung around and did nothing.

replies!

Greg X: <<You get smacked four times for not saying anything!>>: Yeah like you'd ever smack me. <<You need to include everyone who has ever lived and died in the history of the world on that list>>: I don't think they need to be there. They're redundant, and it just makes the list longer. <<since he's never gotten laid in his life, I can easily see how he wouldn't know>>: You'd be surprised how many virgins I know who know better. <<Are you on the G2003 Con Staff? No, you're not>>: Doesn't matter, I insist on a vote anyway! <>: I dunno, we have decidedly different taste in women. <<I'll hopefully look much better than I do now>>: Plastic surgery? <<Is there competition that my lovely staff and I are not aware of?>>: I know some dork wanted it in Florida. Though quite frankly I can't figure out why no one's pitching LA again. <<He's just trying to sound evil again, but he can't quite do it>>: Pity. <<If you're not banging them by V-Day then the relationship is not worth pursuing>>: LOL! But I don't think that's true. Because you could have started really soon before V-day. On the other hand, maybe you'll get it ON V-day if you're all slick-like. <<Ra's al Ghul should try to kill them all in his next appearance>>: All of them, now that would be funny. <<Nah, it's never coming. You and I both know it>>: This has so many dirty interpretations... <<it wards off the terrible forces of good>>: LOL. <<Cause it's funny>>: Heheh. <<Myself, Aaron, Mara, Josh, SJ, Jen, Wilek>>: I'm in the definition of evil!? Sweet! <<Nah, that just makes people annoying>>: LOL! Exactly what I posted! <<You're on the committee, I'd have a better chance facing the entire Viet Cong army with a salad fork>>: You should be a writer for dennis Miller. <<He's a very wise man, you should listen to him, at least for 2003>>: Personally, I'd prefer it over here 8-) <<2005 and 2006 then I would expect you to ignore him. Cause I'd love to go to LA again after 2003>>: And we'd love to have you.

Daphne: <>: Somehow, I think we'll all survive. None of the single males in here are into the whole "innocent christian girl" thing, catholic schoolgirl fantasies aside. <<nothing happened pertaining to it until shortly *after* midnight on the 15th>>: Somebody got some!

DPH: <>: FREAK! <<how many people try to spell it 'Norfork'?>>: The real joke is in the proununciation. <<sending PICTURES of flowers to Daphne was a symbolic gesture>>: Symbolic of what, exactly? <<Slow day today>>: Sunday, holiday weekend, etc. <<Imzadi & others would consider me evil if I insisted on teaching others to follow some of my morals.>>: Not evil, just annoying. <<Don't you mean it wards off the generous forces of evil?>>: No, I don't think he means that. <<Looks around to see if this event is on anyone's list of signs of the end of the world>>: No, Apple's domination of the desktop market is, though. <<Do you know that not using Internet Explorer is challenging on W:ME?>>: Its challenging on every windows since 3.1

Fire Storm: <<D&D ABSOLUTELY sucked!>>: Gee, I'm shocked. <<WTF are they saying>>: Its not CR appropriate. <<except me!>>: And me. <>: Good thing you're not a CivE. <>: Sorry to hear that. <<not Ravyn, that's for sure!>>: I only want to buy single girls anyway. <<Like the woman that walks like a Madcat>>: Ya know, as weird as that mech is, its also the most widely recognized. <<I'll figure something out>>: Does it involve porn? <<Then why does he continue to dress as women?>>: He's just a sweet transvestite. <<once some hackers get a hold of it>>: They won't, because the states won't be giving it out. <<they will realize how much crap it is and simply laugh>>: They already know. That's why hackers use Linux. <<Why? I don't do that with my computers!>>: And then you get fried stuffs. <<Primacord?>>: SEMTEX! <<She wasn't happy!>>: I wouldn't be either. <<the kind you clean up with a mop and bucket>>: Personally, I think sponges and a laundry machine are better.

Patrick: <<My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks / But it was obsolete before I opened the box>>: What kinda chip you got in there, a dorito? ;-)

Crzy: <>: Isn't that a conflict of interest? <<My husband is still trying to convince me that I am nuts for considering it, but I am very tempted to try for LA again>>: YES! I'm sorry, as much as I love the G2k3 staff, I will always support having the con in LA. Because that is the best location, period. You can't get as many stars anywhere else.

Sorow: <>: Congrats! But its important to be a cool RA and not suck. Wait, nevermind. <<I'll get my own room without a loud, obnoxious, dirty roommate>>: Now you can have a guy over ;-)

Gside: <<You're holding out the possibility that your mind isn't the best? Shocking>>: Its not a possibility, its a fact. <<No, it's a variant of a pun>>: Which is already the lowest form of humor. <<much like the cat, it did kill me. I'm better now, though>>: I missed the funeral! <<I'd rather if my naughty bits weren't burnt off>>: I don't blame you. <<But Sanutti, the undergrad director, has other plans. Yes, both this and last semester he taught required courses at 8:10>>: Bastard. I have that problem. The required Structural course is always taught by the same guy and always at 8AM. <<I'm glad of my lazy class.>>: Today was my roommate's second day meeting with his group, and they haven't written a single line of code yet. <>: My little brother?

Lain: <<well.. i finally fixed it! it was the screen resolution>>: You dork. That's what we ALL said it was.

Re: spooky movie: I hate to burst everyone's bubbles, but Gargs wasn't spooky.

Alright sleep time.

Linux is only free if your time is worthless.
-hyoo, slashdot.org

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, February 18, 2002 05:19:16 AM
IP: 64.170.152.83

YEA!!! We are up to four on the spookiest movie thing!!!
Lexy
Monday, February 18, 2002 01:21:51 AM
IP: 66.31.222.137

right so.. remember how i was complaining that everything on my monitor was REALLY BIG? well.. i finally fixed it! it was the screen resolution! anyway, everythings all better and nice and small now.. yay!

today i went to work. all was well. i made the headpiece for a wedding, and almost made the bride cry she liked it so much. :P yay for me, i guess. (no, technically we arent supposed to do things like that cos were a craft store, not a bridal shop.. but hey, why not? if it makes em happy..)
i also spent half an hour counting and tissue-wrapping 100 small clear glass candles for said wedding.

but hey, i got money so.. its all good

and i just found the compass my mother bought for me.. "in case i ever lose my way".. *sigh*

musta done something reeeeeal bad in a past life, thats all i have to say.
lain "fishy fish" iwakura
the Great White North
Monday, February 18, 2002 12:46:32 AM
IP: 64.228.204.214

Imzadi> <<even if my mind isn't the best>>: You're holding out the possibility that your mind isn't the best? Shocking.
<<That's not funny>>: No, it's a variant of a pun.
<<Ugh why>>: Morbid curiosity. And much like the cat, it did kill me. I'm better now, though.
<<Some people are into that>>: I'd rather if my naughty bits weren't burnt off.
<<As an ECE, you should be sleeping till 2 anyway>>: But Sanutti, the undergrad director, has other plans. Yes, both this and last semester he taught required courses at 8:10.
<<His first task is to write threading...IN JAVA>>: I'm glad of my lazy class.
<<Well, you are obviously not my clone>>: No, I am something far worse.
<<Yet he does it anyway>>: At least Galahad catches him.

Fire Storm> <<WTF are they saying in the Lady Marmalade song?>>: http://www.allstarz.org/christina/lady.htm
<<I'd continue this, but I have no idea what they say next>>: Why did Constantinople get the works? That's no body's business but the Turks'. $!#@. Patrick got to it first.
<<But you get the general idea I hope>>: Pretty much. And you also have to make sure that the output is acceptable as input.
<>: Shhh dear, don't make a fuss.

And you get some more Python for the mp3. This time it's the spam skit.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Monday, February 18, 2002 12:04:08 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Hey guys. Sorry I've been absent lately but I just popped in to give great news: I made RA in my dorm for next year! I'm so excited cause my parents will be saved $7,000 and I'll get my own room without a loud, obnoxious, dirty roommate. Hope everyone is doing good!
SOROW
Sunday, February 17, 2002 11:36:47 PM
IP: 129.116.38.151

DPH> <<why do you keep thinking I am trying to be evil?>> Cause it's funny <<Being evil depends on your definition.>> Myself, Aaron, Mara, Josh, SJ, Jen, Wilek <> Nah, that just makes people annoying. <<<Cause it wards off the terrible forces of good.> Don't you mean it wards off the generous forces of evil?>> No. ;)

JEN> <<YAY US!>> We rule! <> Uh oh. You're on the committee, I'd have a better chance facing the entire Viet Cong army with a salad fork ;) <<My husband is still trying to convince me that I am nuts for considering it, but I am very tempted to try for LA again. :)>> He's a very wise man, you should listen to him, at least for 2003. If he tries to convince you not to for 2004 ::ducks as Coyote, Fire Storm, LM and Ravyn chuck a brick at him::, 2005 and 2006 then I would expect you to ignore him. Cause I'd love to go to LA again after 2003 ;)
Greg Bishansky
Sunday, February 17, 2002 11:36:44 PM
IP: 216.179.5.77

KEEP VOTING!! Gargs is up to #5 on the Scariest Movie list! YAY US!

Greg B. - I think if you have any bid competition, it will be from me. My husband is still trying to convince me that I am nuts for considering it, but I am very tempted to try for LA again. :)
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson - [<--- VOTE!!]
Sunday, February 17, 2002 11:07:27 PM
IP: 67.227.14.71

OK here are the links that were given out in the last Gathering news letter. If you vote for each VHS, then that vote for it on DVD ONLY goes for THAT ONE VIDEO. If you guys want the whole series, or at least as much as we can get then you need to:

A) Email for EACH VHS individually.

OR

B) Email once, but mention that you want ALL the VHS's AND the first five episodes (The Hero's Awaken) on DVD.

And like I said. Making a note to them that it would be NICE if we could have the first five ep's NOT cut up for that dumb game..would be great!! :)

I'll post these again if anyone needs them:)

GO VOTE PPL!:D

Hero's Awaken:

http://psc.disney.go.com/disneyvideos/moviefinder/products/0393603.html

Brother's Betrayed:
http://psc.disney.go.com/disneyvideos/moviefinder/products/0671403.html

The Force of Goliath:
http://psc.disney.go.com/disneyvideos/moviefinder/products/0596903.html

Deeds of Deception:
http://psc.disney.go.com/disneyvideos/moviefinder/products/0671303.html

The Hunted:
http://psc.disney.go.com/disneyvideos/moviefinder/products/0596803.html

And for "Spookiest Movie":
http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/moviefinder/html/100years/voting/spooky.html
Lexy
Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:53:56 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

Just spent a long afternoon / early evening setting up a new computer for my mom. The writing has been on the wall for a while that old 223 MHz she had been using was about ready to ride off into the sunset... but today it ticked me off so much that I got very close to just heaving it out the window. I just do not get along well with Windows 98 and the "blue screen of death." Of course, it annoys me that the "cheap" $500 computer of today has a processor that's actually faster than the $1500 computer of 18 months ago (i.e., the one I own). But I guess as Weird Al said, "My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks / But it was obsolete before I opened the box!"

Mooncat > You love me! You really love me! ;) Seriously... I'm glad I've got readers like you who appreciate what I do and actually WANT me to keep writing. Of course, I have to make sure my co-writer, kathy, gets her fair share of the credit. She's been responsible for just as much of the wickedness as I have. And actually... I think we've been at it now for as long as if not longer than the time we spent working on TGS. It will be three years this June.

Fire Storm > "<Been a long time gone, Constantinople>
I'd continue this, but I have no idea what they say next."

You'd say: "Why did Constantinople get the works? / That's nobody's business but the Turks."

:: scampers off to work on fanfic ::
Patrick Toman
Sunday, February 17, 2002 09:16:05 PM
IP: 66.72.203.206

Saw Dungeons and Dragons and Moulin Rouge.
D&D ABSOULTELY sucked! I knew it would before I got it, but I got it anyway.
Moulin Rouge... Man oh man... someone must have done ALOT of drugs and then listened to the radio to make that one!
Speaking of which... WTF are they saying in the Lady Marmalade song?

Gside: <Been a long time gone, Constantinople>
I'd continue this, but I have no idea what they say next.
<No one's perfect.>
Well, except me! ;)
<Just remember to mount the blades forward. I had to go an entire
season with upside down blades.>
Not a problem. The grass dosn't really grow.
<It seems signals are usually on a 0 to 10 volt range>
But you get the general idea I hope.
<And it's the engineers' jobs to not ignore the problem>
I am a strong believer in shortcuts.
<Spam spam spam spam!>
I DON'T LIKE SPAM!

Jaden: <God vs Evolution- I believe that all things are possible...at least until I find out what's what>
I think that once people find out that we are just a science experiment for some aliens, people will think the aliens are god.

Imzadi: <Who's for sale at G2k2, do you know?>
Well, not Ravyn, that's for sure!
<You have a duty to your male friends!>
Ah, I was in the reserves for long enough. I have retired from active duty AND the reserves.
<No, some are skinny. They're just ugly>
The skinny ones are at least decent looking here. There are REALLY fat ones here that scare me!
Like the woman that walks like a Madcat Mech.
<What are you gonna do with 20 square feet?>
I'll figure something out.
<But not so useful if you want to get some>
Unless the quad is 2 female, 2 male
<For the last time, Patrick Toman is a GUY!>
Then why does he continue to dress as women?
<That wasn't funny. Not even close>
Well, I thought it was, and that's all that's important.

I think alot of people did.
<The purpose of this is not to open-source windows>
But once some hackers get a hold of it, it may be!
OR they will realize how much crap it is and simply laugh.

Spacebabie: <Is that a Xbox and or something x rated?>
Well, i am sure there is an X-Prize for eXtreme sports, but I am talking about the commercial race for a reusable spacecraft, xprize.com
<:::Hands dPH some Caramel delights, Thin Mints and the chocolate coverd Peanutbutter cookies::>
Since when did they rename the Samoas to Carmel Delights? At least call them coconut somethings!

Mooncat: <Any writers and artists interested in being part of this, please contact me>
I would, but I have the tendency for my stories to write themselves. The ending is usually nothing like I had planned and the characters do what they want to.

Warpmind: <Well, you know, rule #1 of meddling with crystal balls: Shut Them Off first.>
Why? I don't do that with my computers!
<Rule #2: After meddling, perform all diagnostics OUTSIDE!>
But it was raining!
<a BIG implement of amputation>
Primacord?

SJ: <Kevin Smith, 38, died in hospital late Friday from head injuries he suffered in Beijing, where he had been working on a film production>
Those were the exact words I read to LM. She wasn't happy!
Then I told her it was an ACTOR from Xena!

DPH: <To all concerned: sending PICTURES of flowers to Daphne was a symbolic gesture>
Of love, the kind you clean up with a mop and bucket? (Dang song!)
Fire Storm
Sunday, February 17, 2002 07:24:31 PM
IP: 216.254.103.139

Spacebabie - Can I trade the chocolate covered cookies for something else? I don't like chocolate that much.

Guess the next letter in this series: DNOSS_

Leo - Hmm. It's a toss-up between Norfolk (how many people try to spell it 'Norfork'?) and Richmond.

Mooncat - Patrick's comments about the project closely mirror my concerns.

To all concerned: sending PICTURES of flowers to Daphne was a symbolic gesture.

Slow day today.

GXB - why do you keep thinking I am trying to be evil? Being evil depends on your definition. I would imagine Imzadi & others would consider me evil if I insisted on teaching others to follow some of my morals. <Cause it wards off the terrible forces of good.> Don't you mean it wards off the generous forces of evil?

Imzadi - <Microsoft has been ordered to hand the code for WINDOWS over to the states. I predict this will require the use of armed force, but hey, whatever. The purpose of this is not to open-source windows, but rather to let the states verify for themselves whether or not IE is removeable from Windows.> ::Looks around to see if this event is on anyone's list of signs of the end of the world:: Hmm. Do you know that not using Internet Explorer is challenging on W:ME?

Patrick - <when some wacky scientist starts cloning big cats and cross-splicing their DNA with electric eels and bats... well, then that'll be something worth reading about in the papers> Hmm. I'll want to choose a combination that will boost my IQ. After that, I'll go for adding electric eel DNA if it provides certain results.

DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, February 17, 2002 06:03:57 PM
IP: 204.94.193.48

DPH>> > I know, I was referring to the whole "anonymous" thing.

Josh>> <Awwww. Someone has a crush> Actually, I do... but not on anyone here. Sorry, males.
And in keeping with my boycott, nothing happened pertaining to it until shortly *after* midnight on the 15th :)
Daphne
Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:56:08 AM
IP: 129.68.10.47

JOSH> <> SMACKSMACKSMACKSMACK. You get smacked four times for not saying anything! <<Isn't that list roughly 6 billion people long?>> Nah, it's much longer. You need to include everyone who has ever lived and died in the history of the world on that list. <<No SHIT! How could that be confusing?>> Well, since he's never gotten laid in his life, I can easily see how he wouldn't know. <> Are you on the G2003 Con Staff? No, you're not. But don't worry, I think you can trust my taste on who gets to participate and who doesn't.

NIAMHGOLD> <<Maybe I will say that about you. ;) Link to a pic? I know they exist...>> Wait till G2002. I'll hopefully look much better than I do now.

PATRICK> <> Rumors, what rumors. I haven't heard anything. Is there competition that my lovely staff and I are not aware of?

MOONKITTY> <<Hiya. Well, what do you mean "What makes you think you can do any better?" Gee that sounds kind of antagonistic. *O.o*>> Eh, don't mind him. He's just trying to sound evil again, but he can't quite do it ;) <<TGS is fan fiction. Really good, nicely organized and continual fan fiction. But it's no more and no less than a group of fan getting together and (hopefully) having fun putting out fan fiction.>> Of course, I've been on TGS for about five years, and I know it's just fanfic. <<Any writers and artists interested in being part of this, please contact me. >> I would, but I'm way too busy with TGS and planning Gathering 2003 (hopefully). But I wish you luck, and I look forward to seeing it. <<13th again... sigh.>> Why the sigh? 13 is my lucky number. <<Hmmm... clone that has different coloring of it's genetic parent. *^_^* sound familiar?>> YAY! Soon we'll have a real Thailog. Keep those clones coming.

SPACEBABIE> << LOL. You don’t hve to be banging you can be doing the first three bases first.>> If you're not banging them by V-Day then the relationship is not worth pursuing ;) <<Hmm Lawyers responsible for the destruction of the rainforrest? I knew they were evil.>> Ra's al Ghul should try to kill them all in his next appearance.

AARON> <<Real post... sometime.>> Nah, it's never coming. You and I both know it ;)

LEO> <<Why is everyone counting?>> Cause it wards off the terrible forces of good.
Greg Bishansky
Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:25:16 AM
IP: 216.179.5.77

Ah, lazy days. Working the phone and doing homework, and that's about it. Saturdays are nice too, because not many calls come in. You'd be surprised how many people out there don't use their machines on Saturdays...or at least, the people who do are smart enough to fix it themselves.

Managed to attack a fair amount of work today.

I spoke to my mom on Thursday, turns out that she's taking our cat in to have that lump removed without even bothering to find out what it is. Sounds like a good idea to me, since she refuses to pay for chemo for a cat (and while I love my cat, I don't blame her).

In other news, the president has finally authorized the Yucca Mountain waste disposal site, which will do something very fitting to Nevada: turn it into a nuclear waste dump. Nevada plans to fight it, of course...but they haven't a prayer. But it'll be a good fight.

In other other news, the happiest day of my life is here: Microsoft has been ordered to hand the code for WINDOWS over to the states. I predict this will require the use of armed force, but hey, whatever. The purpose of this is not to open-source windows, but rather to let the states verify for themselves whether or not IE is removeable from Windows.

Went to my friend Lacey's b-day party tonight, which was weird because I didn't really think I was a good enough friend to be invited (hell, I didn't even know she was having a birthday). But I was included and got to hang out with her group (they're all in my CivE classes but I didn't really know any of them) and made some cool friends. We had dinner in the city and got her totally smashed (its her 21st b-day). Then we went to Ghiradeli (sp?) and had lots and lots of CHOCOLATE!

replies

Shadowrider: <<in nature, you can find examples of structures so complex and armonical>>: Most of which we don't try to replicate ;-) <<we need energy to keep our beautiful minds active>>: That's right! And even if my mind isn't the best, I still demand energy for it. <>: If you can strike the right balance, you are a better human than most.

Silvadel: <<Actually I thought it was composed pretty well with the pictures going from far left to right when going from top to bottom ... It didnt bother me so long as it isnt done on a regular basis>>: It's not for you. Its for the people on modems who actually take time to download this page.

Patrick Toman: <<no hoard of people standing over you like adicts needing their next "fix", waiting for you to publish the next episode>>: DRUGS! <<Click my name>>: I didn't know that Greg was on the committee. That's cool. <<You expected ticket pricing to have logic and make sense>>: No, but I expect UA to stand by their customer satisfaction "essay" on their site. <<that was your FIRST mistake>>: What was my second? <<both Richmond and Norfolk are almost an hour's drive from Williamsburg>>: Which rules out a flight to either of those places. I suppose if I can scrape the cash together I can fly to someone else's city and drive down/up with them. <<there is such a dire shortage of domestic cats in this country that a solution needed to be found to provide cats quickly and cheaply to deserving catless families>>: LOL! <<when some wacky scientist starts cloning big cats and cross-splicing their DNA with electric eels and bats... well, then that'll be something worth reading about in the papers>>: I'll finally have a pair of wings. <<so much going on I don't even know what year it is most of the time>>: I generally have that problem in January and the first half of feb.

Spacebabie: <<removed from her stomache the needle, about a foot of thread and a hairball>>: Lovely. <<Well it hasn't been 21 days since her last visit and she came yesterday. My Mother thinks its stress from worrying about the cats>>: Many things can cause alterations in your regular cycle. Maybe you didn't have enough fruits and vegetables this month, or maybe the price of rice in china is below world standards. Anyway, many women take birth control pills precisely to keep themselves on a predictable cycle. <<Lawyers responsible for the destruction of the rainforrest? I knew they were evil>>: That may be true, but there are many other reasons why lawyers are evil. <<You don’t hve to be banging you can be doing the first three bases first>>: BORING! <<How about a large chunk of bulky charp rock?>>: Perhaps. <<Because you don’t know it>>: True. But in general those type of things don't interest me. Out of curiosity, what was the acronym? <>: Then you don't know what you're missing. <<Well since Gore is a democrat he is naturally a jackass>>: My dad would love you. <<Make me think of stuck up people>>: Can't argue with that ;-) <<Drink plenty of herbal tea with honey mixed in>>: Alas, no honey.

Warpmind: <<If only my brain had had the time to override my mouth instead>>: Congrats. You're male. <<Three Tenors. Logically, they should be balanced by Six Fivers or Thirty Singles>>: That's not funny. <<the 'goyle-me that Lain made seems to be lost in the mail somewhere>>: I have an icon of it if that helps. <<a BIG implement of amputation>>: Chainsaw? Or something less pleasant? <>: Are you sure that's reasonable?

Daphne: <<thanks for the flowers>>: Awwww. Someone has a crush.

Stephen: <<lobs Holy Handgreande>>: Where'd you get that!

The Wizard: <<FIVE>>: Three sir! <<FIVE giant purple starfish>>: Where did that come from?

Leo: <<Why is everyone counting?>>: Welcome to the top ten. <<Someone skipped 8>>: You don't need to necessarily say the number to mark your spot. <<Is this a "spam" session?>>: We don't spam. Spam is evil.

Mooncat: <<clone that has different coloring of it's genetic parent. *^_^* sound familiar?>>: WHOA! Sweet!

Gside: <<Suspendies and a bra(r). I've checked>>: Ugh why? <<but scalding isn't for what you told me to do>>: Some people are into that. <>: As an ECE, you should be sleeping till 2 anyway. <>: Doesn't mean I want to do it. <<Luckily, it doesn't look like I'll have to go that far>>: His first task is to write threading...IN JAVA. <<Don't really like shellfish, don't care much about cars, and I will try my hardest to avoid riding coach on a train again>>: Well, you are obviously not my clone. <<Did you mean sofware?>>: Damnit, yes I did. <<Exactly the wrong kind>>: Agreed. <<nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out.>>: Yet he does it anyway. <<Spam spam spam spam>>: I started singing along with you.

Lexy: Please keep posting the link!

Starcraft and then bed!

A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, February 17, 2002 03:45:07 AM
IP: 64.170.152.83

GREAT JOB EVERYONE!!! Gargoyles went from being number 10 (on the spookiest movie poll) to being number 6! KEEP VOTING! And make sure to vote for all the Ep's on DVD, or just email them once for one VHS and explain that the whole of the series should be DVD. I personally also mentioned that the first five ep's, if released on DVD, should be an UN-edited version. Since the VHS left room for that interactive game, and in doing so many sceens were left out. Mention that too if ya can! :D I also heard, and I am not sure how important this is, that Disney has a new man in charge of their movies. This is really important considering they are still tossing around that idea to make Gargoyles a live action film. I know it's been a long time ppl, but one of the major reasons Garg's was cancelled in the first place was because of a switch in managment. When new ppl come in, it is always a good idea to show our interest! With Disney offering Garg's on it's web site (in regards to voting and such) and this new guy, I would say it is a pretty good time to be loud in the fandom!

-Lexy
Lexy
Sunday, February 17, 2002 01:20:12 AM
IP: 66.31.222.137

Imzadi> <<Are you sure? Does he wear high heels?>>: Suspendies and a bra(r). I've checked.
<<Heat is good>>: Quite, but scalding isn't for what you told me to do. I missed it today anyway.
<<Somehow, I doubt it>>: I wouldn't imagine it takes much skill.
<<All three of them?>>: That's more than I've gotten so far.
<<He has to write one>>: Luckily, it doesn't look like I'll have to go that far.
<<Unfortunately, for me "the finer things" include lobster, BMW's, and first class plane tickets>>: Don't really like shellfish, don't care much about cars, and I will try my hardest to avoid riding coach on a train again.
<<DIS! But good point anyway>>: Thank you.
<<Ironic, since their hardware is less stable than Robert Downey Jr at a strip club>>: Did you mean sofware? Otherwise, I don't seem much ironic about it.

Spacebabie> <>: Exactly the wrong kind.

Warpmind> <<any sentence beginning with the word "cephlapoid" should be avoided at all costs>>: Did she seem to have heard of tentacle monsters before?

Imzadi> <<Thou shalt not count to four>>: ...nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out.
Leo> <<Is this a "spam" session?>>: Not without the song. Ahem. Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam! Wonderful spam! Spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam. Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Spam spam spam spam!

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, February 17, 2002 01:04:43 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Here's some sad news tonight.

I'm posting this cause I know some of you used to watch the Hercules / Xena shows. Unfortunately, one of the actors on those programs was killed recently - Kevin Smith, who played Ares. Here's the info:

WELLINGTON, New Zealand (Feb. 15) - A New Zealand actor who played the leather-clad, bicep-bulging God of War, Ares, opposite Xena in the television series "Xena: Warrior Princess" has died in China after a fall.

Kevin Smith, 38, died in hospital late Friday from head injuries he suffered in Beijing, where he had been working on a film production, the NZ government said in a statement.

Smith played Xena's love interest in the fantasy drama based loosely on ancient mythology, which ended filming in New Zealand last year after being broadcast in more than 100 countries.

The NZ government paid tribute to Smith, saying he was "known not only for his enormous talent and amazing beauty, but also for his intelligence and self-effacing humor." The New Zealand Herald reported Smith's next role was to have been in a Bruce Willis movie, "Man of War," to begin filming in Hawaii next month.

Damn. I kind of liked the guy.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:59:38 PM
IP: 66.44.56.105

14th -- hmm..
silvadel
Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:51:31 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Interesting note on the new cloned kitty cat,

"The one in eighty-seven success rate is comparable to that reported with cloned sheep and cows. Genetic tests confirm that the kitten, now two months old, is indeed a genetic copy of the original calico cell donor. Interestingly, the kitten does not have the same coloring as the genetic parent, a fact the researchers attribute to the play of dueling X chromosomes and developmental factors outside the control of the nucleic DNA."

Hmmm... clone that has different coloring of it's genetic parent. *^_^* sound familiar?

MC
Mooncat
Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:44:05 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

13th again... sigh.

*^_^*

Mooncat
Mooncat
Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:34:06 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Leo: <Why is everyone counting? Someone skipped 8. Is this a "spam" session?>
I was 8th. It's tradition in these 2 CRs to mark the top ten positions. If you read through the archive, you will see that most weeks start with a Top Ten countdown.

And no, it is not Spam.
Fire Storm
Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:32:25 PM
IP: 216.254.103.139

Why is everyone counting? Someone skipped 8. Is this a "spam" session?
Leo
Yorktown, VA
Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:08:42 PM
IP: 172.152.190.247

Daphne - I wasn't attempting to hide my identity. That was the new email address I am switching over to.

Top 10?
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, February 16, 2002 09:54:17 PM
IP: 204.94.193.67

9th!
Shadowrider
Saturday, February 16, 2002 09:47:51 PM
IP: 213.213.16.27

Something or otherth!
Fire Storm
Saturday, February 16, 2002 09:44:13 PM
IP: 216.254.103.139

7th
Terrky K
Saturday, February 16, 2002 09:33:14 PM
IP: 63.252.222.87

Six!

Real post later.
Patrick Toman
Saturday, February 16, 2002 09:20:28 PM
IP: 66.72.203.206

FIVE. FIVE giant purple starfish!
NIamhgold
Saturday, February 16, 2002 09:15:40 PM
IP: 206.41.204.144

Thou shalt not count to four...
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, February 16, 2002 08:52:25 PM
IP: 64.170.152.83

THREE, SIR! <lobs Holy Handgreande of Antioch>

Maintain and check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [scififangargoyle@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Saturday, February 16, 2002 08:49:24 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

Number TWO!!! :)
Ravyn and Coyote
Saturday, February 16, 2002 08:23:47 PM
IP: 150.135.180.226

First! Real post... sometime.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Saturday, February 16, 2002 08:22:41 PM
IP: 207.222.167.113