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I was chatting with Brooklyn while I was typing the first part of this post so if things don't make sense (as if they normally do), . . .

Jan - <Hey! I’m not a moralist?> Somehow, I forgot to count you. <STVoyager, definitely. I liked that show!> Sorry, but the quality isn't there. Sorry, but using temporal paradoxes to help the crew get home doesn't cut it for me. I mean, next time around with the quantum slipstream drive, they could improve their time in it by 5 seconds. Keep that up and Voyager will end up making it home way too soon. <Sounds like a giant Hoover in here> I don't like taking chances so I prefer to hedge my bets.

Can anyone say we're trying to start World War 3? It's the US versus the rest of the world. Why am I saying that? We're being slapped with tariffs, trying to equalize things.

Green Baron - Do you support random checks to make sure that home schooled kids are both learning and not being abused?

Note: one of my uncles died on Thursday, and the funeral was today. No, I didn't know him that well. I was told that I might be a pall bearer, but thankfully I got excused because of my back problems. It's one of things that I felt uncomfortable saying no to.

Stupid question: why do we wear black/dark colors to funerals? If we are supposed to celebrating the life of a person, shouldn't bright, cheerfull colors be better?

Invsi Xavier - I think it has gotten much better as the number of battlebots has increased. Of course, I miss seeing that spider-bot that didn't have a prayer of winning because of its lack of speed.

Imzadi - <Oh well, I needed the extra sleep.> That's what I say every time I oversleep. As a result, if it's really critical, I have a back-up plan of someone calling me to wake me up. <I'm such a college student.> The average college student spends lots more $$$ than he/she makes. <<He's also one of those peopel with lots of common sense and little book smarts>: Not a good combination.> What about the reverse: little common sense and lots of book smarts? <So its 1030, I'm exhausted, yet I haven't accomplished anything.> I disagree. Are you sure that you didn't pollute the environment? <Very true.> Since you agree that I am in endangered species, does that not mean by the laws I'm entitled to a little more protection?

Fire Storm - <How dare you call a GAteway a computer!> Are you saying that I am not typing this post on a computer?

Christine - < the current season of Battlebots wrapped up on Tuesday with the middle and heavy finals. Three cheers for Hazard and Biohazard!> Alright. What happened to Vlad the Impaler? Are you sure that Son of Wyachi wasn't sabotaged?

Todd - <Yes, this place was very slow today (the Station 8 comment room was too); I suppose that everybody's been a little too busy to post much lately. Maybe it'll pick up again in a couple of weeks or so.> I think perhaps the entire gargoyles community has been slow lately.

SIryn - <Just so you all know, Yahoo groups will be down for this weekend, but will be back on Sunday.> Just so that you know, on Monday, I told everybody about Yahoo groups being down this weekend.

I started subscribing to Dilbert comic strip in my email.

Green Baron - <Then you have the admins of amorality.> ::starts running around, thinking about the amoral police:: <But out of all of Harry Douglas's Forsyth great great grandchildren,> I barely knew my grandfathers. My uncle who passed away had great grandchildren, so there is hope for seeing 4 generations around.

FYI: Spring 2002 starts on March 20, 2002 and continues until June 20, 2002.

Because I'm in such a good mood, I'll ask how corny and ridiculous the picture I'm linking to looks.

I am going to have to re-think my relationship with my dad. Apparantly, an unnamed person thinks I have not done enough to try to reach amnesty with my dad.

Yahoo Email is driving me nuts now. How? All my email to my old yahoo account is supposed to be forwarded to another email account. Appartantly, a few aren't. Damn it, I wish I could get a response from that guy about making my new yahoo account a moderator so I could delete my current one.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, March 16, 2002 08:18:25 PM
IP: 204.94.193.10

* BUFFY SPOILERS *

That episode was definitely a startling one. What really got me was the ending.

I'd been assuming that the "Sunnydale" existence was the "real" one, since, for one thing, if the whole thing was just a figment of Buffy's imagination, how do you explain the events that took place when she wasn't around? (Or the "Angel" spin-off, for that matter, which exists in the same universe, even if they don't acknowledge it as much since "Buffy" moved to UPN). And it made sense in light of the "demon poison" business.

But then, at the end, we see Buffy in the institution, unconscious, from the point of view of her parents and the doctor, and if *that* had been a delusion, it oughtn't to take place since she isn't conscious in it. So is the institution the reality in the series after all? But if so, then we're back to the situation in the above paragraph.

It simply weirds me out (which is, I suspect, most likely why the production team chose to end the episode that way).

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, March 16, 2002 07:43:22 PM
IP: 168.191.109.207

Friday seemed like it was baby day at work. Many people brought in thier babies.
And I *SO* wanted to make cooking/snacking jokes!
(At least I did today. Made me feel better! "I love babies, but unfortunately I am all out of BBQ sauce!")

Gside: <You still expect sense from me?>
What was I thinking?
<That's it, all my money's being invested in newspaper subscriptions.>
Newspaper and magazines! You REALLY don't want those people at the Wall Street Journal or Time to go on the streets, do you?
<I've seen one with a built in periscope>
Gynocam? I mean, sure, I could see the medical use of that, but the fact that some people get off on seeing that...

Imzadi: <Yes. Defined as an alarm clock that plays mp3's>
I still don't see what's so special about that. I have had one for years.
I default to it mooing at me.
<look at it this way: its just a summer, and its not likely I'll be there for the rest of my life>
That's what we all say...
<Great, now we can have kids in there>
With knowledge comes loss.
<Worse still, they might breed>
That's like CompSci majors breeding! Ain't gonna happen!
<They hold heat...or cold>
That's what they said on Real Sex 28.
<Careful! This CR is logged >
Right or not, I will STILL see my show made!
<Ask her if she cares>
She dosn't, either way. No difference.
<Okay first, the company is called APPLE. The product is called Mac>
:) That just pisses you off when I do that, dosn't it? I keep forgetting the difference.
<Second, what keyboard is .25 inch plastic?>
The one that comes with the iMac. THose keyboards feel like they are made out of thick plastic, just like their computer cases.
<Heaven's no! Where would we get cookies from then?>
What was I thinking?!?
<SETI is a waste of time>
Why?
Personally, I would rather have my processing go towards finding life rather than protien folding or code cracking.

Shadowrider: <engineers must always look for the simplest way to achieve what they must, no matter of other solutions are more elegant>
Tell it to George W "Battlefield Nukes" Bush!

Jan: <We’ve had a very busy week at work>
Better a fist fight at the courthouse then the shootout at one up here in Michigan a few weeks ago.
<The sperm donor>
You know, from what you say, I tend to think you have no respect for the guy!
Fire Storm
Saturday, March 16, 2002 04:06:27 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Green Baron:> Hm, wrong reference. The second <<It was him or Allende. At least Pinochet kept the nastiness brief and stepped down when voted out, unlike the Sandinastas>> Was supposed to be: <>

Sorry for 2nd post.

Shadowrider
Saturday, March 16, 2002 03:13:43 PM
IP: 62.11.61.139

Hola people. No intro, I have an appointment in a hour, and I still must send a lot of emails...

Green Baron:> <<It was him or Allende. At least Pinochet kept the nastiness brief and stepped down when voted out, unlike the Sandinastas>> It was Pinochet. Allende was not probably the best in the world, but at least was not a bloodthirst dictator. So, ten years and more of terror look to you like a brief time? Hmmm...well, for sure it is a short time compared to eternity. About his supposed-to-be "step down", I am sorry I must disagree. What he did was to PRETEND he had stepped down, while using his absolute control over the military of Chile to continue ruling the country behind the throne, in spite of the will of peple.

<<It was him or Allende. At least Pinochet kept the nastiness brief and stepped down when voted out, unlike the Sandinastas>> "A judge in a leftist revenge tactic...Hah! I'm sorry, but I hear enough of this stuff in my country, thank you. I am beginning to be disgusted in hearing the conservatives screaming "Communist!" to everyone who dares to disagree with them in the slightest way, or -what a daring- even to investigate what they did...since they claim that god is on their side, consequently their actions are perfect in themselves, and those who don't agree with this are liars and communists. It is so, isn't it? Phah!
So, the poor dictator was ill? Had ache in his back? Poor little star! Probably the weight of the hundreds thousands lives he destroyed was too much for him. Sorry, but I feel no sympathy for his pain...not when I think to all those children who lost their parents just because they happened to think in the wrong way. Actually, when Balthasar Garzon ordered to arrest Pinochet, I hoped there was going to be at least a spark of justice in this world, and that the merciless murderer of so many innocents was going to rot in a cell for the rest of his days, no matter how short or long. Unluckily, the world powers showed again their hypocrasy. Yes, now the dictator is under trial...by judges with a gun pointed to their heads, and to the heads of their families. Anyone wants to guess how it is gonna end?
And your pope, the self proclaimed moral authority, had the courage not only to visit him (and not the thousands of desperate people who saw in his visit a chance to make their voice heard - what an illusion!), but to bless him, and give him the papal kiss. I wonder, did Pinochet had Woytila visit his dungeons as well? Did he organize a show with his best torturers to entertain his white-dressed guest? After all, it is good manners when you have a guest in your home, to show him the best pieces you have. And the self-proclaimed moral authority did eventually show on the balcony with the dictator, for the joy of the cameras of thousands TVs in the world, while some hundreds meters far from there, the same people who had hoped so much in his visit were mercilessly slaughtered by the private police of Pinochet. You dare to say that they tried to kidnap Pinochet? Well, Pinochet made thousands of people be kidnapped, and many of them did never return!
A bit harsh on what I said, you think? Well, it is what I think. Sorry, but I cannot accept anyone defending someone like Pinochet.
<<When teh elderyly and infiorm are kidnapped in the name of human rights, I wonder what the definition has become.>> The correct word is supposed to be "justice", although I admit that nowadays it is often used...'improperly'...so to say...

<< I need to read these letters, though I hope that my faith is not put into crisis afterwards, for I may have to abandon Christianity (not that such an event could really shake my faith, as we have had bad popes before. Next I fear there will be letters about John XXIII trying to promote Christian Marxsim). >> Yes, you should read those letters. Although, maybe it is useless...after all, you have already taken your conclusions. It is something I somehow envy to you religious people...the ability to judge even before knowing. It is something I've never been able to do...
Oh, sure...you've had bad popes before. This kind of "double standard, double weight" so deeply radicated in Catholic culture is something I have always found very funny. So, the bad actions (read: those actions that are recognized as 'bad' by enough people afterwards) have been made by the bad popes of the times gone, and their responsibility is only of the popes themselves (who are supposed to be God's messengers on this world, but probably God was looking somewhere else, of sleeping). Good actions, not. They have been made by the Church, cause Church is not a single man, but a totality, so those good actions must be credited to the greater glory of the true church...again, funny. In a bit horrid way...

<< It depends on who we lost>> Again, the double weight double standard...

<<Pilate>> I suspect you missed my point. I am not interested (not here at least) in investigating what is true or false in the story of Pilate we get from the Bible. My point was this: Pilate had the power to stop Jesus' execution. Didn't do it, for fear or esle, and whashed his hands of the thing (and if I remember well, water turned to blood, but I could be wrong). For this he was doomed, and Dante Alighieri (just to mention one) puts him in Hell. For sure, he was a minor figure, both in actual history and in the biblical version. Yet, his valence was allegohoric, to mean that if you can do something to stop an evil or wrong action, and you don't do so, you are as guilty as those who commit the action itself. It is the principle, and to fulfill the principle Pilate is put in Hell. Now, since there is historical evidence that the church, both with ist guilty and knowing silence, and even in more direct ways, supported and cooperated with the Nazists (actually, they agreed more with Hitler than with Mussolini...), for the same principle, the whole church should be doomed. Even without the actual support to the Nazists, the two thousands of preaching against the Jews should be enough to put the catholic church on the guilt side (and, actually, there is no wonder that they did support Hitler: After all, he just put in practice what they had said for so much time...). But, again, the doubl weight double standard comes in their aid...

<< Enlighten me on him. Not a familiar name. >> Mons. Edward Milingo. Born in Kenya, if I remember well. He pretends to be an exorcist. For a ten years, his weird attitudes (weird for what is supposed to be the behaviour of a high-ranked priest, I mean - they are supposed to keep always their composure in public, isn't it?) gave him some popular benevolence and the silent hostility of the more integralist factions of the vatican. A year or so ago he announced he had decided to marry a Korean Woman, in a ceremony of some sect there in America. He actually did so, and then he announced his intention to return in Rome and put his clerical position in the hands of the pope. When he arrived in the vatican citym he was secluded in a undisclosed location. After a week of brain-washing he signed a paper in which was said he had repented, and that his marriage was not valid. Now he is in "vacation" in a indisclosed location (again) to "recover from his intense conditionof stress". A quite long vacation, since it is been seven months since the last time he was seen.

Kaioto:> What you point out is for sure part of the problem. The matter, in my opinion, is in the fact that the pope is just a man, elected by a restricted holigarchy, who has not to respond to anyone (except naturally those who allowed him to sit on the seat) and that so many people like to consider the voice in earth of some superior entity. The fact that, for the reasons you pointed out, it is so easy to control the vatican (aren't they supposed to care nothing of their lives, and to pursue only the will of their god?), makes the situation even more problematic.
I admit, though, that my opinion is biased on this, since I am beginning to think that the problem of this world is not in that religion or the other, but in the conception of religion itself. When people will stop allowing some self-proclaimed moral authority to tell them what is good or evil( and to promise eternal happiness to those who conform and eternal pain to those who don't) and will begin thinking with their own mind, will be too late anyway...

Josh:> << Lucky you. >> I know...;)
<<Maybe she's just been with too many guys.>> Oh-oh-ooh! And then I am supposed to be a malicious guy...;)
<<Some jerk-off has decided that in the place of the WTC, instead of rebuilding it, we should have...get this...search lights. >> Hmm...since those lights have been projected and built in Italy, I *cannot* say it was not a good idea...;)

Jan:> Space pens and pencils: I heard this story as well. Actually, one of my teachers told that to us, to explain how engineers must always look for the simplest way to achieve what they must, no matter of other solutions are more elegant...
<<I’ll change your email address and will get an email to you this weekend, ok? >> Will wait eagerly. By the way, I got a bounce warning this morning...why didn't you tell me the second half of the song didn't do it? I will resend in in some minutes! :)
<<Donor issues..>> <grins> Heh, definitely you know how to handle yourself with some kind of people, my friend! I think I appreciate your style...you know, I usually am the "reasonable" person...sometimes I'd like to be able to deal with jerks the way you do...;D

That is more or less everything. See everyone!

Shadowrider - [shdwrdr@tiscali.it]
Saturday, March 16, 2002 03:10:30 PM
IP: 62.11.61.139

Lexy > well, look at it this way ... someday, maybe you can do the same thing to your kids ; ) I hope things work out for the best. It's really tough when in-laws don't get along, as I wish I didn't know.

Off to see Ice Age! Should be a good 'un.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, March 16, 2002 02:36:25 PM
IP: 67.226.61.17

Anyone want to play kickball with DC’s head?

Wednesday was killer on my feet. So I gave my self a pedicure. I soaked them and scrubbed them with a loufa and massaged them. Then I trimmed, filed, buffed and polished my toenails…with green polish. Then I rubbed on lotion and sprinkled powder .

Last night I made my first animation with the Jasc animation shop.

My brother bought a game called Final Frame. He says it’s so scary he nearly crapped his pants.

I actually woke up at 6:30 this morning.

Revel<<<sorry, memory is failing, almost break ];) >>>I can relate to that.

Winterwolf<<<I've heard about deep fried chocolate stuff like that though I haven't seen or gone looking for it.>>>When your local fair shows up check out the food booths.

Green Baron<<<put ticking boxes in front of any homes where Englishmen live :) >>>I’m also of British decent. No wonder I’m conflicted.<<<but I only see a few posts over the day.>>>I know was about to post but there weren’t any messages to post too.

Jaden<<<It turns out that I have nerve damage in my neck and shoulder.>>>Oh I hope you get well soon.<<<But I did get A's in both my classes so I'm happy.>>>Congrats.

Josh<<>>Which is good to know.<<<The CR is infinite.>>>I meant it wouldn’t fit into my moral standards…<<<Why? She's 18, it was her decision.>>>For duping the teachers and her parents well. Lets just say My parents would have given me hell if I did something like that.<<<Just one girl for the two of us?>>>Well actually she’d be for SJ since “Josh” is in love with Serena Tsukino.<<>>Hate when that happens.<<<"$on" in his IM's because I only IM him when I need money ;-) I'm such a college student.>>>Sounds like my brother.<<<Sucked to be surrounded by obnoxious kids though.>>>It was like that when I went to see Shrek.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Saturday, March 16, 2002 10:26:04 AM
IP: 67.24.95.92

Woohoo! Great day today. I had my second interview with GE, and they clarified a bunch of stuff for me, told me all about the jobs they might want me for. They have some badass programs that I'd be a candidate for if they like me this summer, programs which fast-track to management and high pay and all kinds of other goodies. This is a killer opportunity for me, and in all likelihood I'm gonna take it. I'll be San Jose this summer.

And they pay bank too 8-) I'll have another interview or two on tuesday afternoon, where I'll talk to the various departments that are interested in me. The top candidate right now is nuclear engineering. Hehe, I'm gonna glow ;-)

Sadly, I'll have joined the ranks of cubicle dwellers :-( I know I swore I wouldn't end up that way, but I look at it this way: its just a summer, and its not likely I'll be there for the rest of my life. I'll get over it. Besides, by the time I'm done, my cubicle will look like my room...

I saw Ice Age tonight. It was HYSTERICAL. Sucked to be surrounded by obnoxious kids though.

I'll probably be spending this weekend studying for my geotech midterm. Once that's out of the way, though, its pretty close to smooth sailing. Just my open-book quiz on thursday, a couple of assignments, a couple of labs...and a week from now I'll be...asleep, probably ;-)

replies

Invsi: <<did anyone happen to catch celebeirty boxing on FOX?>>: I really wanted to, and I was annoyed that I missed it. I'll catch the next one though. <<without a question of the doubt the WERIDEST program>>: Weirder than South Park? <<A MP3 Alarm clock?>>: Yes. Defined as an alarm clock that plays mp3's. <>: Yes, I am strange, but why is that? <>: Yes, what's your point? <<Aren't you afraid you might burn it out or something like that?>>: Uh, no. Servers stay on for years at a time. <<Unless you have an Air conditoner in your room>>: Well I don't, but its usually pretty cold in there. In any case, it doesn't matter. Computers have no problems staying on for long periods of time. Its only windows that crashes occasionally. <<didn't mean to bore you>>: Not boring. You just proved you belong here.

Mooncat: <<The temperture in the midwest just dropped like a rock>>: I'm so glad I live in CA.

Christine: <<let them have your way>>: LOL! Negotiation: the art of letting someone else have your way ;-) <<you're tipping over a bookshelf on him>>: Um...praying mantis much?

Green Baron: <<Frankly I think that youa nd Kiaoto should expose each other to the worst parts of your nature. >>: Careful, they might take that the wrong way. <<especially since I won't consummate the wedding until the night after the priest declares us husband and wife>>: You're sharing more details than we need to hear. We already know you're gonna die a virgin. <<If you want to get a military vehicle, go for a tank>>: F*ck the tank. I want a harrier. Or an F-15. Unfortunately, only Hummers are sold to civilians. <>: I liked private school. Sure, it meant my family couldn't afford somethings that we would have liked, but the tradeoff was well worth it. Hell, I'm gonna be a GE engineer! ;-) <<only good thing about America's democracy is that most of the unwashed masses don't give enough of a shit to vote>>: I think that there are more people who don't know anything that vote than there are knowledgeable people that vote. That's why American Democracy sucks. <<I'd stay faithful to my hand for the rest of my days>>: I almost made that pledge a month ago. We'll see what happens. <<It only matters because of legal reasons>>: Well at some line, you have to draw a line between kid and responsible adult. Sure, its a maturity issue and different for each person, but I still don't think people her age should be dating people your age. <>: Depends on the woman. <<it may be because of restrictiosn set by a military computer>>: Whatever happened to "don't ask, don't tell"?

Fire Storm: <<Hey, it works!>>: Great, now we can have kids in there ;-) <<if I don't buy the papers, they will release the humanities majors out into civilization>>: Worse still, they might breed. <<And ones made of Pyrex>>: They hold heat...or cold. <>: Careful! This CR is logged ;-) <<Slap me like you mean it, baby>>: Don't worry, I will. <<like I know!>>: Then what good are you? <>: Ask her if she cares. <>: Okay first, the company is called APPLE. The product is called Mac. Second, what keyboard is .25 inch plastic? The laptop boards? They're a bit thicker than that. <>: Heaven's no! Where would we get cookies from then?

Lexy: <<The problem is we CAN spend money when they think it is ok, not when I think it is>>: If you really want to defeat them, then you have to point out gaping holes in their logic. Parents hate that, but nothing shuts them up faster. <<the wedding is being planned around the guests>>: What a complete waste of time. Have you ever tried to please 200 people at once? Why do you think Garg Con Chairs are so insane? <<No he's not, he doesn't have enough experience to go with you alone>>: Um, news flash for your mother in law: that doesn't matter. <<Kai and Al have been driving for three/four years. They can't help me with that>>: I'm so glad I'm not going to be 25 when my brother gets his permit ;-) << faught *sp?* >>: Fought. <>: Many families will guilt trip people into being quiet. My parents do it to me (though that is gonna change in about...oh, a week). My roommate's family does it to him. Its all about control of money. Whoever controls the money effectively "owns" the family. THe sooner you gain financial independence, the sooner you can tell them to f*ck off. Believe me, its a glorious day.

Jan: <<Mind if I sit here for a few moments?>>: As long as they aren't already sitting there being sappy. <<Sure.. I’ll do that in my spare time>>: You need a young male computer geek to help you. Recruit your son. <<I’ll fly my plane over to pick you up and we’ll go to the Gathering together, ok?>>: Sure, if I can get away from my job. <<just because he’s my cousin doesn’t mean that I know how to fly… I live in Missouri, not Arkansas – so I never dated him>>: LOL! <<How did your interview go today?>>: I KICKED ASS! <>: As I recall, you said the same thing when she got pregnant. <<my mom is sooooo weird!” *L* Of course, I have no idea of what she’s talking about>>: Well I do! << Sounds like a giant Hoover in here>>: His nose is turning brown.

Gside: <<The cycles of this place are much too slow to match my showering>>: There's a surprise. <<How's that different from normal? No morning boot up, and lost of unused time for SETI>>: SETI is a waste of time. Do RC5 or something. <<You still expect sense from me>>: That, or sense from sex toys. <<I've seen one with a built in periscope>>: Fiber optic?

I'm off to dream of nuclear-powered sheep.

Mounting is used for three things: climbing on a horse, linking in a hard disk unit in data systems, and, well, sex.
-Christa Keil

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, March 16, 2002 02:26:16 AM
IP: 64.161.25.174

so who put that flash movie there>?
nukesgoboom
Friday, March 15, 2002 11:34:23 PM
IP: 12.243.91.175

Imzadi> <<It's cuz Gside hasn't showered>>: The cycles of this place are much too slow to match my showering.
<<That doesn't save me much time, actually>>: Depends on what you want to do.
<<So its "that time of the month" for the CR?>>: Something like that.

Invsi> <<you'll have to leave your computer on all night>>: How's that different from normal? No morning boot up, and lost of unused time for SETI.

Fire Storm> <<Those don't even make SENSE!>>: You still expect sense from me?
<<if I don't buy the papers, they will release the humanities majors out into civilization>>: That's it, all my money's being invested in newspaper subscriptions.
<<And ones made of Pyrex>>: I've seen one with a built in periscope.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, March 15, 2002 11:12:38 PM
IP: 68.38.244.145

Vash: GargFans> I'm guessing "KQC" stands for Hudson's "Ketnar Quake Clan". I don't see it, though.

Fire storm: For clarification: When you went to Gargoyles-fans.org, you got a flash video of a skull and crossbones?

************Response.****************

It's working normally now. I don't know what happened.

To be specific, it was the TGS link from GFW.

The flash movie went something like:

[Animated red text in a similar font as "Comment Room" in logo]

"One two... Buckle your shoe..
Three, four... etc
five, six ..pick up Styks [as in the river]
seven, eight. .....eyc
.... NINE...
[Big Letters]TEN.. "

[****fades to black****]

[fade in (same red text)]

"Its coming..."

****[skull and crossbones wearing eyepatch and red bandanna fades in]****

[Red text}
"Ready or not... here we come..."

[****fade to black****

[fade in - continuous flashing "KQC" logo]

****** End of flash movie *******

I was worried there was a small chance it could have been a virus.

Sorry for making this a "Chat"

Leo
Friday, March 15, 2002 10:51:47 PM
IP: 172.137.158.176

Jiminy what a week! *plods over to Coyote and Ravyn’s chair* Mind if I sit here for a few moments? *sits down until told otherwise*

We’ve had a very busy week at work. I printed out the list of all warrants currently in my computer and had a grand total of 2,265. Now I am going to have to compare the list to the original warrants that are located in dispatch, find out which ones are no longer valid, remove them from my computer, reprint the list and then clean out my files. Sure.. I’ll do that in my spare time. *falls over*
Had a bitch-fight at the courthouse this week. I didn’t see the actual fight, but all of them ended up at the sheriff’s office afterwards – for various reasons – and of course they all filed ex partes against each other, so I ended up doing 10 of them within a 30 minute period.
“Lady A” had moved to Oklahoma after filing for a divorce from “Man A”. “A” had to be at court for some reason and when she drove up, her and her sister were in the process of getting the 3 children out of the car when “Man A” came up from behind while his father distracted the ladies. “Man A” then jumped into the car – with the youngest child still in the car and attempted to take off. The sister of “Lady A” also managed to get back into the car. In the meantime, when “Lady A” tried to chase after the car (on foot) “Man A’s” sister - “Lady B” entered the picture and began attacking “Lady A”. The fight was on at that point. So out in the courthouse yard (we have a town square with the courthouse in the center) these two women are bitch fighting… scratching, clawing, pulling hair, screaming, biting, etc. City and county police show up – along with most of the courthouse employees. While this was happening, sister of “Lady A” convinced “Man A” to return with the car and child. After the fight is broken up, the man’s family claims that the car is stolen, no insurance, etc. Lady A is able to provide the proper paperwork, but so does Man A. i.e. there’s something fishy concerning the registration and such on the car. So, our deputy impounds the car until that can be straightened out.
“Lady B” is arrested and hauled to jail for 3rd degree assault. I don’t know how it has all ended – it’s all still a civil matter at this point. I don’t know if Lady A will pursue in filing suit against Lady B or not. Lady A took the brunt of the fight – her neck and face was covered with scratches and bruises.
We’ve also had some irate “victims” in the office all week. One particular man wanted charges filed against his ex-wife’s husband for attacking him when he returned the kids from his visitation weekend. He had a video and audio tape of the confrontation. There will be no charges filed, however. In the state of MO, if you are trespassing and the person tells you to leave – if you do not leave – they can beat the crap out of you and no charges will be filed. (the tape revealed that the dad was actually provoking the step-dad and refused to leave the property after he was told repeatedly to do so) He was a tad ticked off when the decision came down from the Prosecuting Attorney’s office. It’s out of the law enforcement’s hands once it goes to the PA.

Green (purple) Baron> I can understand your disgust for the public school system… afterall, you did go to school in Louisiana. I know that at one time it was rated #48 – with Mississippi and Georgia (or Alabama) as 49 and 50 in the rankings.
<<if you want to marry a European, make certain they bathe everyday>> *L* Well, Denis does ;)

Lexy> I’m really sorry to hear that your future in-laws are giving you so much heartache. =( I do understand what they mean, though. My family is full of laughter, talking, etc. and it’s hard for them to comprehend someone who is quiet and shy. Suppertime around my entire family is quite an experience! *L* Well, that’s as long as my older brother and younger sister are not there at the same time as my younger brother… they don’t like each other. I’m the only sibling that is on good terms with all of the others. My brothers can tolerate each other for short periods of time, but not my younger brother and sister. They don’t fight – they basically just ignore each other. No one really knows why my sister dislikes my brother so much. She’s despised him for so long I doubt that she even knows why anymore. But we all still manage to live around their feelings and have a great time when we are all together… with plenty of laughter!
Families: I’ve always been blessed with such a fabulous family. Sure, we have our personality problems (as mentioned earlier) but overall, I know that I can always depend on my siblings or my parents (or aunts, uncles, cousins) for support and love. =) Both parents are still alive and will be celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary this year.
I had my grandmothers around until I was in my 20’s but unfortunately I’ve never known my grandfathers. Both of them died while in their 30’s. I would have loved to have known my maternal grandfather – it seems that he and I have a lot in common with our personalities.

Josh> *L* yeah, I’ll fly my plane over to pick you up and we’ll go to the Gathering together, ok? ;) Actually, just because he’s my cousin doesn’t mean that I know how to fly… I live in Missouri, not Arkansas – so I never dated him.
Re: killing dogs that chase livestock – you have to remember that this is a rural area and livestock is the livelihood of many people here. As much as it breaks my heart to hear of a dog being shot, the farmers/ranchers must protect their investments. Dogs chasing cattle can cause a lot of damage and be very expensive if there is loss of livestock. Now, if a dog is just traveling across the field, then no – you don’t have the right to shoot it. Dogs aren’t aware of property lines or the concept of trespassing. Most farmers don’t just shoot dogs because they enjoy it – most have dogs of their own.
How did your interview go today?

We had a fitful night last night. The sperm donor decided he wanted to harass us with phone calls. He also kept saying that he was on his way up here to see the baby. I kept telling him that he would be wasting his time because he was not going to see Anna or the baby. He yelled obscenities thru out the phone calls and making threats. So today I had Anna file an ex parte against him so that if he actually did show up, he would be served and then wouldn’t be allowed to go near her nor call here anymore. He has called again tonight, but we were gone. If he calls again, I will read the ex parte to him over the phone and advise him that one has been filed. Technically, it’s considered served – but a bit hard to hold up in court or if an arrest is necessary. They wouldn’t arrest him in Houston if he violated the ex parte here, but hopefully by knowing that we mean business, he will leave her alone. The guy is a real dipwad - he kept saying, “yes, I signed away custody, but my paralegal told me that I still have rights!” ummmm… the paralegal needs to go back to school. The papers that he signed specifically stated that he would have no custody and no visitation. She is not asking for any type of support from him. This jerk doesn’t call her during her last 3 months of pregnancy, he doesn’t call until Zach is 4 days old, he has called her once since then and didn’t even bother to ask how the baby is doing, he doesn’t even email her and asks about Zach… and he thinks he can just drop in anytime he wants and receive the red carpet treatment?? Hardly. He sunk his battleship when he called me a f*cking bitch on the phone. Now he’s going to find out exactly how much of a one I can really be.
Anna provoked this latest confrontation with the donor and I told her that I could choke her until she passed out and when she woke up she’d hopefully wake up being smarter than she was before. I do think that she learned her lesson, though. Last night scared her. By 9:00am today, I had everything legally covered and the sheriff’s dept. and the city police notified in case he showed up here.
The next time he talks of coming up here, I’m going to offer directions… straight up 59 and drive thru Arkansas. Hehe (western side of Ark) Revel will know what I’m talking about traveling up 59 and DPH will understand driving thru western Arkansas – during the middle of the night and never have driven in mountains before. *snickers* I grew up driving in the Ozarks and I wouldn’t even drive that!

Revel> <<You never met my mother, I think she still olds the title for wierdest mother.>> *chuckles* I think Anna would argue with you over this one ;) she is always telling her friends, “my mom is sooooo weird!” *L* Of course, I have no idea of what she’s talking about. *innocent grin*

Stephen> congrats on becoming the editor of Avalon Mists! I know that you will do a fabulous job =)

DPH> *hears loud sucking sound* <<Sorry, but I prefer to get on the good side of the new admin right away.>> Sounds like a giant Hoover in here ;)
Hey! I’m not a moralist? =(
STVoyager, definitely. I liked that show!

Shadowrider> I’ll change your email address and will get an email to you this weekend, ok? =)

Jaden> ack!! Is there anything that can be done about the nerve damage??

Ivis> eesh, you dad sounds like he’s a real looser *hugs* I’m glad that you were able to rise above it and become the great guy that you are =) I had no idea that AtoN is your sister IRL!! That’s cool!

It’s my night to get up with Zach so that Anna can have a full night’s sleep, so I’m calling it an early night.
Jan
Friday, March 15, 2002 10:41:07 PM
IP: 12.110.237.86

verryyyyyyyyyyyyyy strange. i was like, wtffffff...

seriously, major explanation please ;/
NukesGoBoom
Friday, March 15, 2002 09:36:06 PM
IP: 12.243.91.175

GargFans> I'm guessing "KQC" stands for Hudson's "Ketnar Quake Clan". I don't see it, though.
Vash
Friday, March 15, 2002 09:10:47 PM
IP: 129.98.122.194

Admins: Sorry if this is making the CR a chat room.

Leo: For clarification: When you went to Gargoyles-fans.org, you got a flash video of a skull and crossbones?
Fire Storm
Friday, March 15, 2002 08:51:53 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Ok that explains some things. I was wondering why I was just now able to access it on Netscape, when I got this strange [KQC] Flash Movie with a skull and crossbones using IE(?????)
Leo
Friday, March 15, 2002 08:44:24 PM
IP: 172.171.174.79

Leo: The GFW is about as unstable as Keenspace or the Yahoo Groups.
And where did you get that quote?
Fire Storm
Friday, March 15, 2002 08:36:46 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

What's up with the Gargoyles Fan Website? What is this Flash "Ready or not, Here We Come" *blinking [KQC]* thing?
Leo
Friday, March 15, 2002 08:21:01 PM
IP: 172.171.174.79

Josh- <<Silly in-laws. If I told my parents i wanted to do something cheap, they'd pat me on the back and say "go for it!">> No kidding! I thought, hey save money for the house, school etc. Nope. They are the type that like huge family gatherings. But yet, when they ask me what type of flowers I want etc., and I ask for something they usually will say, "not a bad idea, but we can get that cheeper here or there." And whenEVER I buy something, (I mean anything) they see bags in my hands and my M-in-law needs to know what I bought and how much. Always telling me, "Oh you bought that? Well you should be saving your money." Like I am spending like crazy. It's so annoying. Didn't I say we should have a cheep wedding? Now I can't even go out to eat on a sat if Kai is home, because that is spending money wastefully? The problem is we CAN spend money when they think it is ok, not when I think it is:P <<Do you really think you should be giving up anything? I mean, it *IS* the rest of your life. I'm not saying you shouldn't marry Kai, cuz he's cool...but maybe you should try explaining it to his parents.>> I did. And she listened a bit. The problem is that when we get right down to it we want TOTALLY different weddings. Only one of us can get our way. We have tried compramising, but I always lose because I don't know who we are inviting, and the wedding is being planned around the guests. So if I want this type of music (as a compramise I get something little like that) and I pick something they don't like, the answer is "no". Which I understand. If it is their wedding, I can't play my music. That would annoy the guests. But I just wish they stop asking me so many Q's as if I have an influence here. Just do it your way and be DONE with it. <<Oh, you so belong in this room.>> *sweat drops* oy. uh ha. <> I am trying to learn this. It is hard. I am so used to getting to the point. I just had dinner with them downstairs and I blew it again. She got really mad at me, and if it hadn't been for the others being there I would have gotten yelled at a lot more. It was sort my fault this time. She told me I had to practice driving this weekend, and that she was taking me. I said that Kai was, and she said,"No he's not, he doesn't have enough experience to go with you alone." So I said,"Well, Al (his roomy) is going too." She says, "No. You have to go with an adult." The way she said it..it really irritated me. So "duh..no you are NOT doing that." So I had a harder time answering her next Q which was what time tommorrow. I mean. To me the question is a mute one. I can't even leave the house unless she drives me to the parking lot, so why not just tell me when you can take me? But I _really_ should have just picked a time anyway. I see that now. It was just the way she railroaded my weekend plans to have the boys help me that irritated me. I mean.. all we were going to do was practive turning the car on, off, and if we got far enough in the lesson, driving in a circle in the parking lot. Kai and Al have been driving for three/four years. They can't help me with that? I guess I thought that was silly.

Christine- Actually, I forgot to mention this in my last post. You mentioned that this having to control the wedding thing usually stems from that person not getting to control their's. You were pretty close. When they got married they had (well say pressing financial issues) that made having a wedding not really possible. They were in a rush, and didn't even get married in a church which really bothered her. It was basically a shot-gun thing. Her daughter got married a few years ago. She saved for four years for a wedding in Hawaii, and her mom said "NO!". So she ended up in the same boat I am in now. She had to do things the way her mom wanted it. In a church, with the priest they knew, with the family, in a very traditional way. She didn't like it, and they faught *sp?* about it A LOT. But her mom got her way, and since the daughter knew the ppl going she stil had some fun. I am a little more screwed then that. So you were pretty much right. She actually admitted it to me in not so many words as well. Which is annoying. But in the end I am cornered. They don't want me to pay rent, because that would be offensive. So I have that hanging over me. They won't let me not have a wedding, so they insist on paying for it. So what can I say? "NO It has to be my way?" I am not paying for it, and I am living here for free. I feel like I have to keep my mouth shut ya know? In the end I honestly don't care anymore. I just need to figure out how to get things so she isn't so mad at me all day for being quieter then her. I read her loudness as anger and it makes me nervous. She views me being quiet as being totally rude. Who cares about the wedding when I have this problem to deal with? Kai is being so good about this. But he has to go back to school this weekend, and she has made it so she is the ONLY person allowed to take me driving..oh boy..this is going to be a looooooooong 2 months (<--when kai gets out of school! :D)

GB- *nods again* EEK their back! *runs*
Lexy
Friday, March 15, 2002 07:37:56 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

Gside: <What about automatic rotation and swirling "pleasure beads"?>
Those don't even make SENSE!

DEFINATELY! That is one cool cat!
<Of course. Humanities majors, remember?>
Ah... and if I don't buy the papers, they will release the humanities majors out into civilization...

And ones made of Pyrex

Imzadi: <You aren't even sure if *you* want to work there>
No, I KNOW I don't want to work here.
<Much better than watching criminals fight each other>
I hate to say it, but you are right.
But my idea WILL be on TV one day!
<Don't make me he-bitch-man-slap you>
Slap me like you mean it, baby!
<Which is...?>
Oh, like I know!
<It won't happen>
That they won't have time or that we won't use them?
<Um, dude..."her" pleasure>
Yeah, but I should at least feel a SLIGHT difference, right?

I fail to see how a keyboard could be made out of .25 inch plastic, but Mac did it!
<You idiot! Thats...kindling>
I thought that's what Girl Scouts were for!
Fire Storm
Friday, March 15, 2002 06:46:05 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Mooncat: Want access to the Adult GFW?
When it asks for a name and password, leave both fields blank and press enter.
Hey, it works!
Fire Storm
Friday, March 15, 2002 06:11:51 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

Lexy> Anytime. Well, your in-laws are paying for the wedding, but who is it for? Its for yo, so go ahead and speak up. They like someone who speaks up. Hell, bite your thumb at them if they upset you. You're entering a culture shock, but you can handle it. Frankly I think that youa nd Kiaoto should expose each other to the worst parts of your nature. I encourage all couples to do it. Make certain that you two know exactly what could happen. That way, if you two can still be with each oteher after knowing the worst scenarios, its a sign that you'll be lifers. I ahve no idea about anything elaborate for when/if I get married. It's a long way away. Even if I first got legally married, what would count for me is the one with the priest (especially since I won't consummate the wedding until the night after the priest declares us husband and wife, though I doubt I will be ready for that step for a long, long time).

Most improtantly youa nd Kaioto are to be one. Not you and the whole Lund family, though you soon become Lexy Lund :) Maybe you two should wait a bit longer on the wedding, with the upcoming conflicts ahead. That is something to think about.

Christine> Sounds like you'll be in Hell week. Have fun.

Imzadi> <<What I wouldn't give to run over stuff in one of those. Well, next time I have 70k I'll consider it.>> If you want to get a military vehicle, go for a tank ;)

<<Just because YOU didn't enjoy high school you seem to think that home-schooling is a better alternative.>> I actually loved high school. it was grade school I hated. I was so happy to go to De La Salle. I loved staying there and wished I could live there. I ahve fond memories of my teachers and friends I met, though I lost contact with a lot of them and I missed the five year reunion, becuase I was in Germany, but I'll make the ten year one, and so how we're doing so far. I was involved in tons of clubs and I frankly enjoyed HS more than College, but that was mainly becuase I was sick all the time in my sophomore year of College,a nd I hated going away to school when I could go to school for free at Loyola and use a 750 per semester scholarship to pay for books, fees,a nd soem fun stuff. I also worked at the bookstore and demagnetized a few texts, but I returned them when the semesetr was over :)

<<The homeschooled kids I know are the most F*CKED up people on the planet because they have no concept of how to interact with people. Homeschool is for kids who don't play well with others, and it breeds and fosters that same behavior.>> I ahven't noticed taht among friends of mine who were homeschooled, but that amounts to about a handful of people and these people all had jobs at the same time. I woudln't support teh one-on-one basis in general anyway. I would support teh idea of a couple of neighborhoods using the homeschooling on a larger scale where teh parenst would ahve teh kids educated with tehir peers, but basically tell the public schools and the teacher's Union to go f*ck themselves.

<<Have you ever considered that a majority of how our personalities develop and grow is affected by our experiences in high school?>> yes, but I don't particularly like the idea of state sponsred schooling. I much prefer private schooling. I have a feeling that in the next twenty years, only about 1% of public will have any educational value, unless changes are done quickly. New Orleans is already there.

<<Which begs the question: why isn't the admin selection process more democratic?>> Because democracy has failed, also the CR is not a democracy to start with, but I think that is a good thing. Th eonly good thing about America's democracy is that most of the unwashed masses don't give enough of a shit to vote.

<<At least what he did wasn't illegal.>> This is me we're talking about. I haven't done anything ilegal, unless you count white collar crime. Maybe if my roomie could control his Jake, he wouldn't have been in that mess. The marriage basically died when the daughter died in a car crash. When he todl me about he and his wife met, I began to relaize that the marriage would never have lasted and the whole relationship was a mistake from the get go. At the time he was a player only looking for one thing,a nd I can'ts ay I feel sorry for him. If I ever think I'd ahve a kid who is like that, I'd stay faithful to my hand for the rest of my days.

<<Why? I don't have things for 17 year olds. At least none that I know of.>> It only matters because of legal reasons. I doubt women mena much more to you than sex, anyway.

Mooncat> I can't get into the adult gargs site either, but it may be because of restrictiosn set by a military computer.

Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau, Germany
Friday, March 15, 2002 05:30:22 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

Lexy > well, I guess if they're the ones paying for it, it makes sense to let them have your way. Glad to hear that you're putting your foot down and getting at least some of what you want. As for the fight, LOL, wait until you reach the stage where you're tipping over a bookshelf on him ... that was pretty much when I knew my first marriage was on the way down ...

Xavier > I can't help it ... there's just something about Battlebots that I love. It is far and away my favorite robot combat show.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, March 15, 2002 03:57:18 PM
IP: 67.226.47.238

Anyone know how to get ahold of the Gargoyle Fan Website's admin for the Adult section? A reader of mine tried to register to see my stories, but the password function is not working. I tried a test registration also, and the site is not accepting new ID/Passwords for some reason. My regular ID/password work fine though. I tried to e-mail Hudson from the "credits" page, but the e-mail bounced.

Any Site Admin help would be appreciated. I loath the thought of having to upload all my stuff to Fan Fiction dot net, =( I hate jumping through hoops for uploading stories there. Gah...

Anyhoo, hope everyone is having a good Friday/weekend. The temperture in the midwest just dropped like a rock. It's coooollllldddd....

Past two days enjoyed a small Witchblade tv series marathon as my friend just got into it and decided to go through my entire tape collection of the show. I'm glad she did take an interest, apparently they are re-running it on TNT and are about to show the one episode I missed taping. woo hoo!!!

Book I want very badly has a lay down date of the 26, but I will try to finagle and early copy. LKH's Caress of Twilight. I need my Laurell K. Hamilton fix. *^_^* Something to tide me over to her next Anita Blake novel.

Well, my plans to see Resident Evil tonight are screwed. The friend I planned to see it with usually works Fridays, but he doesn't tonight. So I made other plans to go to another friends house to make Fuzzy Navel Cakes -- she has the recipes, I have the Peach Schnaps and orange juice. This is the girl who made the chocolate kalua cake for my birthday. She is such a dream. I feel kind of bad letting her do this for me since she's on a diet. But I've been waiting for her to do a Fuzzy Navel cake for two years. Not going to pass up the opportunity now!

Maybe if I juggle things just right, I can do the cake, then see a late showing of RE with my other friend... *crosses fingers*

Mmm... I'm not a big drinker, but I love liquer flavored sweets, like cakes. I may have to pick up a bundt cake pan. I'll definately be watching how she does this. I have cooked regular cakes often enough, but never upside down/bundt style. I love trying new things! *^_^*

Wah... it's cold!!!! I have the heater set for seventy, but down here in my office it feels like maybe 40... Maybe less than 40... whatever it is it's chilly.

Well, off to update my own site and try to get some writing done.

Bye for now
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Friday, March 15, 2002 10:10:18 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

*walks in dressed like the evil magician Fo Fai with the long metal claws sticking out of his sleeves* Greetings, boys and girls come and let Fo Fai show you a magic trick that you young'uns will not believe...*cue evil glint in eye*

By the by did anyone happen to catch celebeirty boxing on FOX?

If you didn't it was without a question of the doubt the WERIDEST program since Battlebots. I don't know about you but all three of the matches was one sided. It seems like Danny, Todd, and Harding all know what thy were doing unfrotuantly there opponents didn't have a clue.

A note on the Harding match it seems that the ice queen is back up to her old tricks by hitting her opponent upside the head with the late punch. *laughs* AAh, Ms. Harding will never change. :)

Vanilla Ice> I think Vanilla Ice should take some advice from M.C Hammer, and other defunct celeberties and just stay gone. Cause everytime he appears it's humliating, first in Rap, then in the crap he calls Rock and now in boxing. After seeing the beating he was given by Bridges he'll never live down his past now.

Ahhh...Anyway..back to some real posts.*posts up Umbriel and dusts off his jacket*

Christine>Xavier > I was joking, finding it humorous, that's all. Not attacking you or anybody. Don't get your knickers in a twist, 'kay? ; )

*snorts and tips up his magician's cap and a crooked smile grows underneath his silver-grayish mustache.* You know, I can Say something really naughty right now but I'll save it for the Adult CR cause I have class...or something like that ;) j/k

Battlebots> I don't know about you, but I have starting to get really tired of battlebots, I don't know why I used to like it but, know with changes in my life I haven't had time for it. Que, Sera, Sera.

Josh> A MP3 Alarm clock? I don't know about you isn't that kind of strange? I mean you'll have to leave your computer on all night. Aren't you afraid you might burn it out or something like that? Unless you have an Air conditoner in your room or something like that then I say Clock on. ;)

. <<A fool and their money is soon parted>>: What does this have to do with your rant?

I don't know I was hopped up on Hot Chocolate and painkillers at the time I wrote it ;) j/k

Mooncat> I think if you are a parent, your children will become the center of your life, and your number one priority.

You know what that what my father once said that and then he divorced my mother and I have had no love for him since.

Anyway on to a real post.

ALright, I noticed that the posts her on famlies and stuff like that and I must admit that you all have very nice famlies and I feel for your losses and such I have lost my own family with my Uncle dying two years ago. Which was probaly my closest taste of actual death you can get. I remember when I was woken up by my moms and she said that my uncle was sick. He was throwing up blood and everything like that and I had to help him out of the house, we eventually did get him to a hospital and I saw him lying there, shivering I never felt so completley helpless in my entire life. We had to change the carpeting in the basement after that.

A Few months later he eventually passed away and I couldn't react at all I still can't react probaly because the fact I never got used to know him. Hell ,even after that incdient I never got to know him. *sighs*

But, those are the breaks.As far as my father geez um, does a**hole count, how about no good S.O.B count as something? DO I sound bitter? Well, yes I am. My father abused, my mother, was hardly there for me or my sister,was a pathological lier, and left my mother in debt. After the divorce my dad hardly made contact with us he only made contacts with us when he FELT it was most convient. And I'm not talking about weekend visits I mean this man would waltz in and out of our lives in 5 years intervals one time he hadn't come back to us for 15 years. And this man says that he wants to be part of my life and my sister's life? This man who didn't even have the common decency to pick up a phone and call?

When I turned 18 I figured out that my father has abandoned us, out of all the trauma he put me and my sister through after all the days I have cried myself to sleep when I was a young cub. I decided no more, I can no longer shed tears no longer for anyone, I won't allow myself to. I totally despice my father as of right now, I have no love for him and to compare me to him to even say I look or act on him is a red button to me. So far I am the rock of strength for my mother, sister, AotN, and my intermediate family.

Whoops, I'm rambling again...didn't mean to bore you. :D

*looks at post* Damn, my longest post yet let's measure that sombit**

Oh, yeah, click my link for some new art I did.

*walks out on a mystical sphere he created beneath while chanting ala Xena*

Sugu raku ni shite yaru. (I will soon end your pain) IX9

Invsi Xavier - [tjarred@hotmail.com]
The city, of, eternal sin
Friday, March 15, 2002 04:07:31 AM
IP: 204.120.54.78

Well, I've finally decided to switch to the MP3 Alarm Clock (written by none other than my roommate). Two years after developing it at my request, I'm finally annoyed enough with my current alarm clock that I'm willing to actually USE his program. The downside is that I won't be able to hit my alarm clock anymore (I don't like to abuse my iBook that much). The upside is that it will actually WAKE ME UP.

I missed my structures lecture because my alarm didn't go off. Oh well, I needed the extra sleep. And I still got there in time to ask my structures prof a few questions on the homework and the lab, which was good. He's decided not to assign a homework over the break, which means that I *need* to get my lab next week done ASAP to save myself any grief whatsoever during my soon-to-be-perfect spring break.

My dad has begun referring to me as "$on" in his IM's because I only IM him when I need money ;-) I'm such a college student.

The really good news was that my group got its lab back. This was the lab I did a couple weeks ago that wound up being 42 pages. Well, it turns out that we got the highest grade in the class! Before we got it back, I told them that half the responsibility for the lab grade was mine (I expected it to be a dismal grade, the way the TA's were bitching on and on about all the problems with the labs in general), since I put it together, wrote two sections, the conclusion, the intro, and edited the whole thing. Of course, since we did well, I took half the credit too 8-) It was nice knowing that our work paid off. A lot of groups didn't do so well, and I saw one girl in tears. Sheesh. It's only about 7% of your class grade! The bad news is that they marked it up pretty heavily anyway so I have plenty of revisions to make before the end of the semester.

Other than that...its the weekend! I started it by...doing homework. I hate when that happens.

Wow this was a slow day.

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Siryn: <>: Kinky. <<6.35 to attend a class I need to take anyways..not a bad deal>>: NICE! I want someone to pay me to take classes! <<Because if I don't know there is a problem, I can't fix it>>: What kind of a con chair are you! I'm sending the psychic vibes, why can't you pick them up!? ;-)

Green Baron: <<Maybe my browser is being odd, but I only see a few posts over the day>>: Nope, just us being odd. <<To some extent, it's an experience for someone whjo neevr rode before>>: What I wouldn't give to run over stuff in one of those. Well, next time I have 70k I'll consider it. <<I'd want you and SJ as admins>>: Which begs the question: why isn't the admin selection process more democratic? <<The CR would become very interesting, then>>: No, just very loud. <<You of all people judging me. That's funny>>: Why? I don't have things for 17 year olds. At least none that I know of. <<No, the otehr Dilbert-wannabe named Patrick>>: I knew who you meant. I was trying to avoid that thought too. <>: Well then he's almost as stupid as you are. At least what he did wasn't illegal. <<He's also one of those peopel with lots of common sense and little book smarts>>: Not a good combination. <<Excuse me for forming an opinion about my chidlhood>>: Its not an opinion about your childhood. Its an opinion about EVERYONE's childhood. Just because YOU didn't enjoy high school you seem to think that home-schooling is a better alternative. It isn't. The homeschooled kids I know are the most F*CKED up people on the planet because they have no concept of how to interact with people. Homeschool is for kids who don't play well with others, and it breeds and fosters that same behavior. <>: Have you ever considered that a majority of how our personalities develop and grow is affected by our experiences in high school?

Todd: <<this place was very slow today>>: It's cuz Gside hasn't showered.

Lexy: <>: Silly in-laws. If I told my parents i wanted to do something cheap, they'd pat me on the back and say "go for it!" <>: Do you really think you should be giving up anything? I mean, it *IS* the rest of your life. I'm not saying you shouldn't marry Kai, cuz he's cool...but maybe you should try explaining it to his parents. <>: Oh, you so belong in this room. <<I'm just not good at small talk>>: I understand completely. But for the sake of your in-laws...you might want to pretend. I had to learn to adapt fast when it came time to interview at engineering firms. They like shmoozing.

Gside: <<rm -r />>: That doesn't save me much time, actually. <>: Kinky. <<This place moves in cycles>>: So its "that time of the month" for the CR?

Second interview with GE tomorrow. Should be fun.

...and scantily clad females, of course. Who cares if it's below zero outside?
- Linus Torvalds

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, March 15, 2002 02:40:01 AM
IP: 64.161.25.174

Imzadi> <>: Thank you.
<<The only thing that saves me time with is rm'ing>>: rm -r /
<<You can get those on condoms?>>: I thought we had moved on to marital aids. They also make microwaveable ones.

Todd Jensen> <<Maybe it'll pick up again in a couple of weeks or so>>: It always does. This place moves in cycles.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Friday, March 15, 2002 01:23:52 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Christine- A weird little Kid ha? Must get it from her weird mom;) As far as my in-laws go, they are paying for the wedding. That is why I am letting them have their way. I wanted to not have one at all to save money, and just do something fun at the Gathering. But they wouldn't allow it. Then when I said we could do nothing they said no too. So they pretty much made it so that they had to pay for it, so they would get their say. (since I don't have family to pay for this) I do want to do the 2 wedding thing. I am going to still do stuff at the Gathering for myself. But it won't be as fun as I would have liked. *pouts* At least I still get my honeymoon at Disney World. Kai almost backed out of that too, saying we couldn't afford it after the sizable wedding his family is planning, and The Gathering. But I put my foot down at that point. I basically said that I gave up my dream dress, I gave up my dream wedding, and now you want me to give up my honeymoon entierly? NA-AH! Not happen'en! And then, yea, I got my way;) Funny how that worked. There isn't too much I can do for my in-laws, because we are way too different. But Kai is helping me with talking a little more. *hears him come home* YEA!! *runs 2 hug* *comes back* Anyhow.. I'm sure I will have more tales to tell in here as this goes on. This was our first fight, and it won't be the last. Though, for the record, our 'fight' consisted of me being yelled at. I never yelled back. Actually, I was in so much shock I didn't say anything. Then cried. *shrugs* I really don't ever 'yell' at ppl, because of things in my past. It scares me a lot when ppl yell)

Josh- Well. I happen to act more like a guy in a lot of respects. I do talk A LOT. However, not with ppl that I have nothing in common with. I just never thought of saying much. And what am I supposed to say after making subs and pizza like I do every day? "How was your day Liz?" "OH! It was FAB. First I came to work, then I made pizza and subs all day. Remember? Just like yesterday. Can you believe it??". I'm just not good at small talk. Ever since I started work, my answer for how my day was has been, "Fine." If I go to work, and no body dies (or anything else interesting *evil grin*) then the day was just bla.. Grey..bland. Fine. And by the by, if I respond (a lot or a little) it is communication. It is not COMPLEX communication. But I communicated my thought. It was fine, and I am going to bed. Is a fine sentence IMO.

GB- Yup. Thanks:)

Siryn- I am emailing you on the matter:D
Lexy
Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:38:18 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

Creepshow > Becca enjoyed the tape, and immediately began pointing out the differences between the movie and the comic book. What a weird little kid ; )

TV > the current season of Battlebots wrapped up on Tuesday with the middle and heavy finals. Three cheers for Hazard and Biohazard! And on Survivor, Maraamu just doomed themselves by getting rid of the only guy in the entire tribe that had his act together. Beware, Gina! I hope they juggle the tribes ... or split them into 3, that would be interesting.

Next week is going to be a rough one. I volunteered to work 2 extra noc shifts, and then realized that's the week Becca's school has half-days for conferences. I should be real crabby round about next Friday. Ugh. But at least I will get overtime and next Sunday off out of the deal.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, March 14, 2002 09:48:36 PM
IP: 67.226.90.227

Yes, this place was very slow today (the Station 8 comment room was too); I suppose that everybody's been a little too busy to post much lately. Maybe it'll pick up again in a couple of weeks or so.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, March 14, 2002 06:21:59 PM
IP: 63.183.39.228

Another day. Maybe my browser is being odd, but I only see a few posts over the day.

Jaden> I still have PT, unfortunately. I have to get a max on all events and taht requires 71 more points. A good improvement over what I got in basic, but still a good ways away. I also have no idea about my next assignment, either, so they may have differnet rules altogether.

Are you on profile for your neck and shoulder?

<<Humvees are fun to ride around in aren't they. >> To some extent, it's an experience for someone whjo neevr rode before.

Imzadi> <<She's alive. Probably playing with her new boy-toy.>> I doubt that with Daphne, but if she is, good for her.

<<They will NEVER let me be an admin. Because they don't trust me to avoid getting involved in the flame wars>> I'd want you and SJ as admins. The CR would become very interesting, then :)

<<Gee, imagine that. Slimeball.>> You of all people judging me. That's funny.

<<Perish the thought.>> No, the otehr Dilbert-wannabe named Patrick.

<<Wait till I set in. I am the king of jailbait jokes, as two of my best friends are totally into high schoolers.>> I get plenty of that kind of crap from my roomate though he is bitter form a marriage formed by the fact that he got a girl pregnant. If his wife wasn't pregnant, she'd have finished bootcamp and be grunting right now. He shares soem of your views on relationships, except he used to be an on-fire Assembly of God type, plus he has the most annoying accent, being form Alabama/Florida. I am so glad people in New Orleans sound more cosmopolitan. He's also one of those peopel with lots of common sense and little book smarts. He can be a decent fellow sometimes, but there are times I have an overwhelming desire to kill him.

<> Excuse me for forming an opinion about my chidlhood. I am not some homeschooling crusader, but I certainly don't have your intense dislike of it. I just don't believe in the one size fits all method of state sponsored education, especially when I intend to live in a city. I just don't intend to eliminate all options. There might even be a good public school where I live, but I have a lot of doubts.

<<Homosexuality?>> No, that's an Englsih trait. I was referring to the whole dynasty thing.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau
Thursday, March 14, 2002 01:37:35 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

GAHHHH

WHAT A WEEK. Luckily, I have almost come out on top.. Siryn 1 RIT 0!!! Mwhahaha. Not to mention, I will have MORE than enough credits to graduate with, so all my saved money can go to animaton school! Gah.. but I feel like I've been running around alll day.

And I'm working too..notetaker for the deaf. Oh well, 6.35 to attend a class I need to take anyways..not a bad deal.

Lexy> ACK...I TOTALLY know where you are coming from. I have had roomates previously who won't tell me there is a problem etc. And of course it festers etc. (That's why I keep telling people, if they want to bitch about the gathering, bitch TO my face. Because if I don't know there is a problem, I can't fix it.) *HUGGLES* I think you all need to sit down. I don't think that you have the communication problem. They do. If your inlaws wanted you to come to dinner, they should have made mention of it. *hugs hugs hugsss*

PS. I sent you an email, haven't gotten word yet, if you would like me to call you friday or this saturday, give me a time and I'll be happy to discuss things with you. :) *HUGSSSSSSS* And don't worry about phone bills k? :)

Gathering announcement> Just so you all know, Yahoo groups will be down for this weekend, but will be back on Sunday. There WILL be a new update email sent out either Sunday or Monday. So, stay tuned! Information will include: Updated Gathering Schedule, Contest information, more reservation infomation, etc.
Siryn - [gatheringofgargoyles@yahoo.com]
Thursday, March 14, 2002 01:27:44 PM
IP: 129.21.153.76

Good god I'm tired. And I did so little today. I have no idea how that happened, but I'm crashing early tonight.

I skipped out of lab early because, well, it was boring and looked pretty simple. It still looks pretty simple. Maybe that will change when I start working on it. Or maybe I'll get lucky. Then the prof was pretty insistent that this weeks homework assignment would compensate for the ease of last weeks'...great, like I didn't already have enough to do next week. Since its the week before spring break, everyone and their dog thinks they're entitled to an assignment from me.

The lab had its entertaining side too, though. The prof demonstrated RISA-2D, a nifty program for structural engineers that basically takes all the work out of the problems. Very nice. Crappy interface, though, and only runs on windows. So my prof borrowed someone's PC (he normally uses a Titanium Powerbook), and fumbled and cursed his way through the presentation. He was insanely jealous that I was able to follow along on my iBook.

I keep offering him software, but he seems to have some sort of ethical bias against unbridled theft. Oh well, can't save everyone.

Shortly after I attended the first meeting of the newly-formed UCB-MUG, which was pretty sweet. The Apple campus reps gave a great presentation and talked about what the group was for, and the head of Berkeley Accounts was there to tell us about the sweet stuff she'd set up (trip to Apple Campus, speeches by the lead BSD programmers, etc).

At 7 I headed to the engineering library, where I worked on designing a freeway flyover with my transportation engineering lab group. Let me tell you something: that sucked. Design of freeways is very difficult because there are MANY right answers. One of our team is just gonna play around with autocad until all the lines match up and that will be our design. Somehow, I suspect that's how CALtrans does it. What was cool though is that Berkeley has set up a bunch of WLAN's around campus and I was able to log in and search the web for stuff that would help us design it.

For those who don't have it, you cannot possibly fathom the joy of wireless internet. For those who do...you know what I'm talking about.

So its 1030, I'm exhausted, yet I haven't accomplished anything.

If I can just live through the next 8 more days, I'll be on vacation.

Anyone know where I can score a copy of MechWarrior 2 for mac?

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Spacebabie: <>: I know my South Park. <<As long as your stereotyping yourself>>: Of course. <<It wouldn’t fit>>: The CR is infinite. <<There is a porno bar near the high tech area if your interested>>: Yes, thank you. <>: Why? She's 18, it was her decision. <<Maybe I should create a Niahmgold for the Guyz>>: Just one girl for the two of us? I don't think so. I'm not into sharing...cuz its gross.

Stephen: <<Print Version of AvMists>>: That's gonna be a PDF, right?

Winterwolf: <<I'm starting the joy of tax filing for me and some family>>: Which family member suckered you into that?

Trok: <>: No one knows anything and its never coming.

Green Baron: <<Now if only we could give Johnny Walker the same punishment for treason>>: Who says we can't? <<She's been absent as of late>>: She's alive. Probably playing with her new boy-toy. <<Perhaps this is typcial of someone with my Scottish blood and sense of history>>: Homosexuality? <<Make Imzadi one, too. Then you have the admins of amorality>>: They will NEVER let me be an admin. Because they don't trust me to avoid getting involved in the flame wars (even though once I was an admin I'd have the power to stop the flame wars, so I wouldn't need to flame). <<you're marrying the whole family>>: Why do you think I'm staying single forever? <<My mother has reservations about my beloved, because of her age>>: Gee, imagine that. Slimeball. <<he has made soem jailbait jokes about my relationship>>: Wait till I set in. I am the king of jailbait jokes, as two of my best friends are totally into high schoolers. <>: Perish the thought. <>: No, that's walking away. Its different. <>: I can't stress this enough to you, it seems: HOME SCHOOLING IS NOT A GOOD THING. <<There are some thinsg in life I can never comprehend>>: So true. <<probably caught some disease from having sex with his camel. I jsut used syphilus, becuase someone told me it was first contracted by people humping sheep>>: Ah, I get it now. <>: It is, believe me. <<one has an all you can eat lunch for $8.00>>: See now I don't trust that. I don't trust "all you can eat" sushi. Probably because all such experiences for me have sucked. <>: Its economics geared towards large-scale engineering projects. << Go for it. Have her move in with Josh and SJ :) Or have Sorow move in with them>>: Now THAT is a party! <<put ticking boxes in front of any homes where Englishmen live>>: I'm sure they'll see the humor in that.

Fire Storm: <>: You aren't even sure if *you* want to work there. <<The place sucks>>: You haven't seen anything yet. <<the Darwin award for March goes to>>: A dead guy, usually. <<they want to be near you>>: Doesn't everyone? <<A pay-per-view event if I ever heard of one!>>: Much better than watching criminals fight each other. <>: Don't make me he-bitch-man-slap you. <<Check out the GNC page>>: Which is...? <>: It won't happen. <<How dare you call a GAteway a computer!>>: Wait, who said it was a computer?! <<no difference what so ever>>: Um, dude..."her" pleasure. <<it will be made out of .25 inch plastic>>: I fail to see how a mouse could be out out of .25 inch plastic. <>: You idiot! Thats...kindling.

Gside: <>: Do not. <<How about me. Nothing left to do, and no classes Friday>>: I hate you too. <<We Want Jack Daniels>>: No we don't. That stuff is awful. <>: Hmmm...doesn't ring a bell. <<To save time with the commands you know>>: The only thing that saves me time with is rm'ing ;-) <<What about automatic rotation and swirling "pleasure beads"?>>: You can get those on condoms?!

Jaden: <<Isn't that wonderful?>>: Uh, no.

DPH: <>: Good plan. <<the occasional troll>>: They usually leave quickly. <<That's the first time I had heard Voyager praised>>: It's all relative. Even Speed 2 was good compared to SOMETHING. <<An amoral admin wouldn't let little things like friendships get in the way of bannign people>>: No, they wouldn't. <<are you saying that having an amoral admin is disadvantageous?>>: Not at all. In fact, I prefer having amoral admins because they don't act stupidly. <<Solar-paneled roof could cut some costs>>: Solar power is inefficient right now. <<I'm an endangered species in the CR>>: Very true.

Alright folks I'm exhausted. Time to crash. 8 more days. 8 more days. 8 more days...

I suspect all fortran programs look like 'firsts'.
- Olaf Kirch

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, March 14, 2002 01:53:09 AM
IP: 64.160.47.135

Imzadi - <Suck up> I would rather hedge my bets than take chances. <With me at G2k3, who the hell needs to be a policed in here?> the occasional troll. <Voyager. By a LOT.> Hmm. That's the first time I had heard Voyager praised. Are you sure? An amoral admin wouldn't let little things like friendships get in the way of bannign people. Or are you saying that having an amoral admin is disadvantageous? <But it would probably have to give money to airports, and refueling is expensive.> Hmm. Solar-paneled roof could cut some costs. Given costs of renting in NYC, it must actually break in. Think about the advantages. <What did Jesus Christ do to you?> 'JC' asked about when Timedancer season 4 would premiere. Note: I didn't pull the trigger.

Green Baron- Then, I'm an endangered species in the CR.

Here's a nice bit of trivia: Everybody knows I have cats, right? Ok, I have never assigned them names yet and there is no need to.

FYI: Spring 2002 starts on March 20, 2002 and continues until June 20, 2002.
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:15:17 AM
IP: 204.94.193.79

Guess what? It turns out that I have nerve damage in my neck and shoulder. Isn't that wonderful? But I did get A's in both my classes so I'm happy. Anyone else having a great week?

Imzadi- No, that just what I call the big piece of junk I work on.

Green Baron- Welcome Back! No PT formations!? EVER!? I'm so jealous I don't think I can even put it into words. I just had a PT test and I managed to MAX my push-ups not I just have to work on my run and sit-ups. But I the best I would get is one day a week of doing pt solo. Humvees are fun to ride around in aren't they.

Aaron<ask if refills are free> in someplace in CA they just shoot you as a mercy killing. :P

Well I'm going to sleep.
Later.
Jaden - [jaden1444@aol.com]
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:21:11 PM
IP: 172.192.3.99

Mooncat> <<Cat of the Moon is the same thing for me, Mooncat>>: I know that, I just didn't separate my comments.
<<Tsuki no Usagi = Moon of Rabbit>>: But still, if you're going to translate instead of translterate/metaphrase/whatever the right word it, you need to adjust for Japanese putting their heads in the opposite direction from English. So their of is backwards, with the modified noun coming at the end. It's the same reason verbs come at the end. I think.

Imzadi> <<Is that a euphamism?>>: It might be something like sweater puppies.
<<For the record: I hate you>>: How about me. Nothing left to do, and no classes Friday.
<<What Would Josh Do?>>: We Want Jack Daniels.
<<Or just a lot of pictures of computers and women in bras>>: I seem to remember a lot of short lines of letters.
<<I'm talking about THE murphy>>: But Sannuti is channeling that aspect of Murphy.
<<Why would I use the command prompt?>>: To save time with the commands you know.

Fire Storm> <<Studded, with Spirals, ribbed... no difference what so ever>>: What about automatic rotation and swirling "pleasure beads"?
<<Watch it ooze and eat a kitten!>>: I also liked the water balloon incident.
<<Yeah, but I always figured that all that paper was just garbage>>: Of course. Humanities majors, remember?

And the new mp3 is a rather odd Japanese/English rap. I Have Sherbet from Sorceror Hunters.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:25:57 PM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Coyote: <LM: Uhmm ... are you sure you *really* want to work for FS' employer?>
I am not sure *I* want her to work there. The place sucks!
BUT they hire a lot of people and aren't picky.

Jan: <which included a newspaper from the Eastern Star and the address label said, "treasurer".>
And the Darwin award for March goes to...

Imzadi: <My parents got me a couple of them...so I'd have one when I lost the first ;-) They keep turning up though after I think I've lost them. Very weird>
For some reason, they want to be near you.
Go fig.
<where do you buy a plasma cutter?>
Well, I am not home, so I can't reccomend the usual welding sites I go to, BUT there are people on eBay selling them and I am sure there are a few local places near you that have them.
Hell, even the Sears catalog has one or two!
<Agreed. And entertaining>
A pay-per-view event if I ever heard of one!
<Or, I could do it>
Hmm... I was thinking of a REAL leader, but I suppose you may do...
for now.
<Ack! Where can I get it?>
Check out the GNC page.
<You hippies, always worrying>
I am worried we won't take them out before they can use their nukes!
<No, its a computer. That's like calling a Gateway a cow>
How dare you call a GAteway a computer!
<Oh, like that's ever been a criterion for punishment before>
True. If it was based on what they deserve, polititions would have their hands chopped off for stealing from the people and drug dealers would be able to open retail.
<LOL.>
Studded, with Spirals, ribbed... no difference what so ever.
<They do rock. Of course, it will be a cold day in hell before Apple ships one>
And if they do, it will be made out of .25 inch plastic.

Spacebabie: <Let me guess Anubis and Sehkmet?>
Nope. Two gods that wern't even in Gargoyles.
I forget their names, though.
Well... at least mine.

Gside: <Choo-Choo Bear? The boneless wonder?>
The one and only! Watch it ooze and eat a kitten!
<All I know is I have to filp past a whole bunch of pages to get to them, so I'd assume they have something written on them.>
Yeah, but I always figured that all that paper was just garbage.
<Some people can. And then there is the collection mentality.>
Scary.
<Have you chmoded yet?>
Daily.

***BUFFY SPOILERS!***

Spacebabie: <Whoa! Head trip.>
No kidding! Talk about Outer Limits!

***END BUFFY!***
Fire Storm
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 07:09:14 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

::Dis-Connect is chained to a wooden stake and a dozen soldiers have aimed their rifles at him. Meanwhile a grim NCO with the diamond patch of the Finance Corps reads from a set of orders.

"Attention to Orders. Mr. Dis Connect has often plagued us through teh civillian world and killing him has relieved a littel of our attention, but today he has gone beyond his normal level of troubel making. The internet systems for HHD/A 39th Finance Battlaion in Hanau, Germany was down for a godo portion of the morning and while it proved annoying to the Finance soldiers, he has affected their mission to pay the soldiers in the Hanau area. For his cirmes, he has been found guilty of high treason and is to be executed repeatedly. The soldiers fire theri M16 rifles until their cartridges are empty. They then don bayonets and repeatedly stab DC until he has run out of blood.::

Gruesome and harsh, but he had it coming. DisConnect should know better than to mess with the Finance Corps. Now if only we could give Johnny Walker the same punishment for treason.

Spike> You do have the ability to lift spirits.

DPH> <<I'll stick with being one of the resident moralists in the CR.>> I think you're it. The only other really moral person in the CR is Daphne and she doesn't really discuss it much in a public forum. She's been absent as of late. I hope she got my last e-mail.

<<Let's see. Next time you had back to the continental US, you can easily make 20 grand.>> Probably so. The rugs appreciates in value, though I want to hold onto them. These rugs are double knotted as opposed tos ingle knotted persian rugs (which are better known) so they should still be in good shape long after I'm dead.

<<My only brother doesn't have children of his own.>> But out of all of Harry Douglas's Forsyth great great grandchildren, there are three males. Two are in theirs 30s and I think they're both gay, so I am the last of my branch of Clan Forsyth in the US. I have no idea about fourth cousins (Forsyths) who are probably in London. I also would like a dynasty. Perhaps this is typcial of someone with my Scottish blood and sense of history.

<<There are some advantages to having an amoral admin.>> Make Imzadi one, too. Then you have the admins of amorality.

Lexy> Poor dear. Well, it si betetr you larn of this now instead of after the wedding since my Investments Professor told us that marriage is an investment and you're marrying the whole family. Have you taken the pre-Cana courses yet? I am certain you and Kaioto will bear with thase problems and they will love you, even if you were riased differently. My mother has reservations about my beloved, because of her age, but she has decided that if we do marry, she will accept her into her family and offer plenty of moral, spiritual, and financial help. My aftehr has simply decided to keep an open mind and wait to meet her. Dr. Barnes (who is very much a second father to me) is happy for me, though he has made soem jailbait jokes about my relationship and my beloevd will get him back :) Beisdes, they have to find it a plus that you're Italian.

Mooncat> ::hugs:: NO matter hwo much I ahve coem to accept death in my family, its till stings. I ahve lost my grandparents and an Uncle. My godfather is probably next because he is in poor health and does little to take care of himself. My father has had oen heart attack and he will live longerthan his father because of the advances in technology and his blockage was removed, while his father's wasn't.

My father and his father were never close. My father was rebellious and athletic. His father wanted a scholar. My grandftaher was very bright and was an honors student at Tulane and UVA. He was a schoalr of Latina nd Greek,a s well as French and taught English at the Saubornne in teh 1930s. However he was unprepared for raising my father and was disapointed in my father's academic performance, especially since my father had the brains, but wouldn't apply himself. In one summer, my father received an eighth grade education so he could go to Blue Ridge Prep. My father left those lessons crying every night, because of how harsh his father was in the high intensity learning. sadly, tehy neevr really understood each other and never got along too well. In 1972, my grandfather died, and my fatehr told me of how he just went numb. My father's biggest regret was that he never had that many good times with his father and later pushed him out of his life, but at the age of 26, he had no more father. With raising me, he had a reverse of teh situation he was raised with. My fatehr wanted a more athletic child, prehaps one more rebellious. Instead he got a child who was schoalrly, bookish, and very conservative (and this is not just about politics). He teased me about taking latin in HS instead of Spanish, and while he quit pressing the issue, he would have wanted me to be more athletic. He was not prefect and for most of my life was an alchoholic,a nd I despised him for it. After my sophomroe year of College, I cut him out of my life completely for two years, and one day I decided to give him a second chance, so I e-mailed him. He wanted to see me, so luckily he only lived a mile away. I visited him and told him about my palns to join the Army, plus about College an dtaht I had one last semester. He told me that he wished he went to College and he wished he majored in Finance like I did. He todl me he was proud of me for going to College and for majoring in Business, and he said he wished his father met me, for he would be proud of me, too. A few weeks later, my mother aksed me to move in with my father and even tried to throw soem obstacles in the path, like wanting me to leave immediately. Her hoep was that I woudl spend part of my investments on a place to stay for a week and on the dorms in College. My father offered me one of his two guestrooms and I was much happier to be with him. For a while, I let loose my negative feelings about my own mother and even palnned not to write her in basic, but I eventually began to soften towards her realizing I cna get along with her if I see her on occassion, plus whenever I visited her, I got to see and be with Attila. Granted I don't think my motehr wanted me to leave. She wnated me to beg her to let me stay and then let her tighten her leash on me, but she felt that I was divorcing her when I move din with my father. My sister considered me opportunistic for moving in with my fatehr, especially since it improved my lifestyle a lot,a nd I coudl walk to Blockbusters at 9pm without my mother going frantic.

I really regret the time I closed my father out of my life and I am glad I did recant, before it was too late. I don't knwo exactly how you feel about your father, but my motehr would. She feels a great deal of loss over her father's death and never felt that close to anyone, except for her closest brother who died twelve years ago. I wish there was some way you two could start talking. It may help both of you, though she is probably closer to your mother's age (she's 56), but at least you two have both lost a father.

<<I miss him so much, sometimes it feels like a fist crushing my heart. I should have had decades more time to spend with him. He was only 54 when he died. Now all I have left are the memories of the stories he told me about his life growing up.>> My mother was more fortunate. Her father was 90 when he died, but it mentally cruched my mother so much. All she had left were two brothers who she was never to close to (especially one hwo has closed everyone form his life) and a son who was never very loving or very compassionate. Your loss is more tragic by far. I know you're not one to give out much information about your life to someone youd on't knwo, but if you wnat to e-mail my mother, youc an e-mail me. My motehr is not on-line too often, but she needs more friends and teh few she ahs are all RL ones.

<<If you are ever in my neck of the woods, you are welcome to stop by and play with my kittens.>> Thanks. I'll letyou knwo if I wind up around the midwest so you can let me know where you are. I have definite cat withdrawal symptoms rightnow and I'd love to hold and noozle a purring kitten right now, or even to have a cat walk by and moon me, like Attila always did. I don't knwo when I'll be in Kansas next, but I hope its not becuase I have to spend a few years in Leavanworth :)

I think you'll make a great parenst if you do have kids, since you'd pour your heart into it,a nd if you do decide to get amrried and have a litter, I know a certain Dilbert-wannabe who would gladly help you out :)

<<Anyhoo, Cat of the Moon works out so much better than "the kitty who is mooning you" as one silly friend once came up with. *^_~*>> Well, I know a few cats who greet people by mooning them.

Christine> <> Becca must have a good tolerance for scary stuff. Crzy told me about how she saw the Exorcist at 8 and it still freaks her out. Well, Creepshow is funnier than The Exorcist, but all the Exorcist parodies were amusing.

IMPFAC> <<He’s sort of evolved into a quasi-legend to me. Even though I never got close to him, I still admire him deeply. He was a stoic, conservative WWII veteran who did his duty quietly and asked little in return. All I have left of him are scant memories and the crisply folded flag from his funeral.>> I can imagine he was pretty heroic. It si hard to imagine how heroic people were back then. If I see you flying that flag, I'll proudly salute the flaga nd your grandfather's memory. I made a donation to the WWII Memorial and I put ins oem infromation about my father's father who was an Army AirCorps Captain in the South Pacific and Air Raid Warden before he volunteered. My motehr's afther was Chief of Intenral Security for the Attorney General from 59 until the 70s and helped to fight domestic enemies especially Communsim at home (real threats, like Patty Hearst's crew), plsu he was an FBI agent in the 30s. I guess taht si part of what made me decide to join the Army or any branch for that matter. I guess I wanted to be a little bit more like my grandfather's generation.

Imzadi> <<Um, alright. That sounds kind of lame to me. What is better than happiness?>> Well, it's different when my mother decided what my idea of happiness was and over-reacted when I wasn't happy. I was a child and childhood is miserable. I hated school and being mocked by other kids. I woudln't her to teach me just by herself, but she was hell- bent on my socialization. I didn't smile regularly until HS and then she was upset that I spent more time at school than home. My motehr meant well, but she was foolish in her decisions. She should have left it up to me to be happy or not, and concerned herself with stuff she could control. If my mother wanted me to be happy, she coudl ahve given me more order and direction and helped me achieve independence. Instead she wouldn't let me use mass transit at night, because of her smothering isntinct and closet racism. I never felt as free as I did when I had a monthly RTA pass and could travel anywhere in the city,a nd she should have encourasged me to use it isntead of being all worried about me going anywhere on it at night. She hsoudl have shown me how to use the bus to the airport insetad of making me take a taxi and waste all that money. Our views of happiness are often subjective and if we want a child to be happy, let them discover it themselves, insetad of imposing your view on them.

<<Then why is Jerry Falwell still around?>> Beacuse he balances out Alan Dershowitz :)

<<The IRS would argue with you.>> It's not money or taxes that matter in thsi case. It's all pov. I never lived in a house less than a hundred years old. I woudl probably be uncomfortable living in a one story house, too.

<<Its a really expensive designer brand of clothing for women. and when I say really expensive, I mean REALLY expensive. Like $400 wallets.>> There are some thinsg in life I can never comprehend. Oh well, good thing we're all different. I'd love to sell that stuff, though.

<<Huh?>> I'm just saying that anyone who considers September 11 a Zionist plot has probably caught some disease from having sex with his camel. I jsut used syphilus, becuase someone told me it was first contracted by people humping sheep.

<<Or hell, north hollywood.>> I heard it was a dump, but I didn't know it was that bad.

<> I agree. There are two sushi buffets back home and one has an all you can eat lunch for $8.00. Its perfect to load up on sushi especially eel sushi.

<> I loved Economics class. I never heard of Engineering Economics, but I once took a Economicsan dteh Media and I got an A on a paper about the smurfs being Communists.

Spacebabie> <<C’mon now that is way too cruel.>> This is Attila. I loved my little baby, but he was a venegful mean spirited little bastard.

<<Maybe I should create a Niahmgold for the Guyz>> Go for it. Have her move in with Josh and SJ :) Or have Sorow move in with them.

Don't forget to go to Bennigans for St. Patrick's day and put ticking boxes in front of any homes where Englishmen live :)
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau, Germany
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 03:02:37 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

Hi you all! I'm a TGS (gargoyles) fan and I'm reading TGS. I've almost finished Season3 (gargoyles) and I would like to know if Season4 is coming soon, or if someone knows anything about it. I'm really addicted and I can hardly wait to read more. I need Season4!!!
trok
Pamplona, Navarra, Spain
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 02:11:28 PM
IP: 130.206.168.226

Hi everyone. Sorry, still no real post, no time. Just a warning...

*****WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!*****

Due to repeated and unexplained failures of my previous email server, I am now switching to a new address. The old address will be still active for a few weeks, but the new one will be the one I will actually use from now on. The new address is:

shdwrdr@tiscali.it

Furthermore, I am quite sure there are some emails that have been sent to me and have not arrived...I don't know who actually sent them, so if anyone emailed me in the last four-five days, please resend it, cause it didn't do it.

****END WARNING****

Ok, that's all. Thanks for the audience, real post in a couple days I hope.
See everyone!

Shadowrider - [shdwrdr@tiscali.it]
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 01:58:25 PM
IP: 62.11.60.68

**Winterwolf walks into the CR**

Hi. I'm starting the joy of tax filing for me and some family after this post. Blah.

Jan> <Fried Snickers> I've heard about deep fried chocolate stuff like that though I haven't seen or gone looking for it. Sounds like a good thing to pass on. ;)

Josh> <Listen to me, I'm such a nerd> Duh! ;P

Revel> O.o Interesting... Now the real question is which one is better between those three. :)

Lexy> I can empathize with you on the communication issue. Both sides need to find a compromise with each other before someone is driven crazy. You're right about communication. If they have a problem with some ways that you conduct yourself they need to find some constructive (preferably nonnegative) way of telling you.

Dreamie> I love you!

Well time to get back to surfing. Bye bye everybody.

**Winterwolf scampers off**

Winterwolf
Seattle, WA
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 01:26:05 PM
IP: 12.231.21.141

Because I have to say it.

Christine- You never met my mother, I think she still olds the title for wierdest mother.

Spacebabie-sorry, memory is failing, almost break ];)
Revel
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 01:18:33 PM
IP: 129.120.230.108

Greetings all...

Just popping in with a little reminder: Avalon Mists may have just posted, but you can get a jump on things and send in your submissions well before the May 27th Deadline!

We're expecting big things ahead for the new issue, and aside from the usual Art and Fiction Challenges, featured stories, Character Spotlights and other stuff, we've got two great suprises in store for the fans. One of course is the planned Print Version of AvMists, which will be avalible for download and printout directly from the AvMists site. The second surprise is AvMists will be home to an ongoing Gargoyles-related fiction series... one that will be a great suppliment for all of our fans, but we can't reveal the content yet! Watch this space for future details!

You can send your submission to ssobotka33616@yahoo.com, or contact me to query for snail mail (if you don't have a scanner) at the same address.

Looking forward to seeing all the great submissions! Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr.
Editor-in-Chief, Avalon Mists 2002

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [ssobotka33616@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:39:31 PM
IP: 65.35.135.128

Mom and I paid tribute to our Irish ancestors and went to Bennigan’s last night. I had a Bailey colada Slainte! Bennigans is also the original home of the Death by Chocolate.

Buffy Spoilers………………………………......................................................................
Whoa! Head trip. Talk about a new way of that old proverb “Am I man dreaming I’m a butterfly or a butterfly dreaming I’m a man.” I doubt the psycho Buffy is real though, that alternative thing has been done before. Although that was creepy with Buffy trying to kill Dawn and her friends. The doctor did voice the thoughts of us fans about battling demons and gods and now she is dealing with nerds that have high tech friends.

Green Baron<<<He won't be pleased. >>> I figured.<<<He'll do something awful like have SJ in a sandwich between Hillary Clinton and Janet Reno >>> C’mon now that is way too cruel.

Revel<<<can tell the difference between a Dodge, Chevy, and Ford Diesel just from the way they sound.>>>Cool talent, but can you tell the color? Uh You messed up your quote there.

Josh<<<CARPET! Licking this CARPET for hours.>>>I knew you’d be there to help out in a pinch.<<<greedy jew who's good with money...who'd have thought? >>>As long as your stereotyping yourself.<<<That's not atmosphere. Where's the strip club?>>> It wouldn’t fit. There is a porno bar near the high tech area if your interested.<<<That girl isn't even that hot. >>>I wanted to use Smackers on that girl and her parents.

DPH<<>>My brother has already put himself in the game. Maybe I should create a Niahmgold for the Guyz

Christine<<<Creepshow is on and I'm taping it for Becca>>>Nah your not weird. I saw that when I was Becca’s age, I also saw Poltergeist did not faze me, I was also around Becca’s age when I saw E.T in theaters…thinking about taking her for the anniversary?
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:07:40 PM
IP: 64.159.110.226

I kicked major butt on my engineering economics midterm today. A greedy jew who's good with money...who'd have thought?

So my day was over at 1230 and I've had very little to do. In other words: bored out of my gourd.

9 more days till break.

And I was actually able to dig up a copy of MechWarrior 2 for mac...the game that made me switch to the platform in the first place.

replies

Mooncat: <<They sliced it thinner than in than my fave restaurants, so I think for amount of Tako>>: Cheapskates. <<it makes it stretch farther>>: Yeah, but all that's different is the amount of rice you're eating. And rice is essentially free. <<Unagi (eel)>>: I *love* sea eel. <<things like lobster, etc get shipped live.>>: yeah but the fish don't. <<like a mainline of pure pleasure straight to the brain>>: I'm not a big fan of spicy lobster cone rolls...but most sushi restaurants make a killer dynamite. <<Got to love modern tech that brings you fresh produce from anywhere in the world right to your local grocer>>: You mean...airplanes? <<Once they get the mouthful swallowed, they forget they just had somethng nasty tasting, and immediately start purring and being playing on your lap>>: I'm not gonna say a word. <<must go to sleep before I pass out on the computer>>: You could wake up with qwertyitis. <<you are welcome to stop by and play with my kittens>>: Is that a euphamism? <>: I agree. Which is why I'm never having them ;-)

Patrick: <<It's is NOT dirt, it's SOIL!>>: My geotech professor says "the difference between dirt and soil is $100 bucks an hour". <<especially when it's being served at a "fast food" type place.>>: I just never trust sushi that's below a certain price. Its never as good.

Spacebabie: <<Now for some atmosphere>>: That's not atmosphere. Where's the strip club? <>: That girl isn't even that hot. <<I’m really beginning to hate Marla>>: I think that's the idea. <<Good Luck>>: Thanks. It helped. <<You sit on your butt right? There is a crack on your butt. So technically your on your butt crack>>: Oh, I see.

Green Baron: <<if you want to marry a European, make certain they bathe everyday>>: Almost as bad as programmers! <<because I consider that goal so groundless and empty>>: Um, alright. That sounds kind of lame to me. What is better than happiness? <<as much as Imzadi loves Macs>>: Um, okay. <>: Then why is Jerry Falwell still around? <>: Isn't that kind of useful in accounting? <>: The IRS would argue with you. <>: If you use it long enough, you don't have to. <<One other question? What the hell is Prada?>>: Its a really expensive designer brand of clothing for women. and when I say really expensive, I mean REALLY expensive. Like $400 wallets. <>: You're mixing your cartoons there. <<If there was a way to wipe out the enemies without destroying any buildings, I'd back it>>: Neutron bomb! <>: Huh? <<maybe a good idea in South Central>>: yeah no kidding. Or hell, north hollywood. <<The evil alternative to WWJD>>: What Would Josh Do?

Revel: <<Test are done, papers are done, one quiz to go, three days and counting>>: For the record: I hate you. <<did not let me have two weeks off>>: I only get a week too. <>: Actually, that's kind of cool. <<what would be funny is if someone was actually claiming to be you, they we could see you get mad>>: Yeah, I'd kick them in the nuts. Dot com. <<Moses is back, everyone look busy!>>: You mean they weren't busy enough when he got there?

DPH: <>: Suck up. << who will be policing the CR during G2k+3?>>: Oh come on. With me at G2k3, who the hell needs to be a policed in here? <<Are you saying that anyone becomes an admin starts posting less frequently?>>: Nope. Although that often is the case, I wouldn't say that was a rule. What I'm saying is that the admins we have (or have had) don't post often enough. <<which had better writing: TGC or Star Trek:Voyager?>>: Voyager. By a LOT. <<Next time you had back to the continental US, you can easily make 20 grand>>: Only if he can bring them with him. <<identifying what was wrong in some pictures with a time limit was hard>>: Is that really a psychological test? <<There are some advantages to having an amoral admin>>: I doubt it. <<hotel airship wouldn't have to pay taxes on land, right?>>: It wouldn't have property taxes, no. But it would probably have to give money to airports, and refueling is expensive. It'd be cheaper to buy the land. <<Aims flame thrower at JC>>: What did Jesus Christ do to you?

Lexy: <<Perhaps your roomy and I should have a showdown>>: If I could somehow convince him that all garg fans (including me) weren't a bunch of mongoloid freaks, then perhaps. <<Huge HUGE fight with my in-laws>>: That's what they're for! <>: No. You've answered. That isn't the same as communication. Come on, I thought all women were born knowing this stuff. This is why no matter how many one-word answers a man gives, women will always complain that "he doesn't talk enough".

Christine: <>: I am geek, hear me roar. <<which were planned by _their_ disappointed parents and so on and so on back to the dawn of time>>: LOL! Another reason not to get married. <>: Everyone says that about their mother.

Gside: <<The boneless wonder?>>: John Bobbit? <<All I know is I have to filp past a whole bunch of pages to get to them, so I'd assume they have something written on them>>: Or just a lot of pictures of computers and women in bras. <<yet, he still can't sing>>: So true. <<His name is Sannuti here>>: No, I'm talking about THE murphy. <<Command prompt? Have you chmoded yet?>>: Why would I use the command prompt? <<I'm all for Notepad. And emacs isn't too bad either>>: Whatever. The point is that word is overkill.

Ugh, tired. 9 more days. I can make it.

Absolutely nothing should be concluded from these figures except that no conclusion can be drawn from them.
- Joseph L. Brothers, Linux/PowerPC Project

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 02:30:04 AM
IP: 64.161.25.174

Episode two trailer: Sorry, but these just look plain awful to me. The acting looks absolutely abysmal, and the lines contrite, forced, and lame. Of course, it will be more than worth it for the 100 mil+ special effects, but I am not very optimistic.

Samuel L. Jackson-my favorite actor of all time-aside, of course ^-^

MC> I feel the same way every time I think of my grandfather. He’s sort of evolved into a quasi-legend to me. Even though I never got close to him, I still admire him deeply. He was a stoic, conservative WWII veteran who did his duty quietly and asked little in return. All I have left of him are scant memories and the crisply folded flag from his funeral.

I’ll always regret that I didn’t spend more time with him...

Many of my dearest-and most distant-friends are in their sixties or older, which is rather odd for someone my age. I really should get off my duff and spend some more time with them, before I lose that opportunity forever. Some of these people have experiences I could hardly imagine. I’ve always held a deep seated admiration for my elders, particularly those who served in uniform.

IMPFAC
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 01:27:31 AM
IP: 169.226.230.45

Gside -- Cat of the Moon is the same thing for me, Mooncat *^_^* -- And the rest works pretty well, if you think about it, except maybe the furnishing bit.

It's what my friend who has lived in Japan the past two years calls me, so I used it since she was hanging out with me. Cat of the Moon = Mooncat

Think of it the way you'd say Tsukino Usagi = Tsuki no Usagi = Moon of Rabbit = Rabbit of the Moon = as used for Sailor Moon, who is symbolically the Moon Rabbit. Japanese mythos.

Cats and Rabbits are normally associated with the Moon in the mythology of several different cultures. Go figure.

Anyhoo, Cat of the Moon works out so much better than "the kitty who is mooning you" as one silly friend once came up with. *^_~*

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 01:02:30 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Lady Mystic> <<Wish me good luck!>>: Yo ho.

Fire Storm> <<My favorite cat is Choo-Choo>>: Choo-Choo Bear? The boneless wonder?
<<You mean there are things in the paper BESIDES comics?>>: All I know is I have to filp past a whole bunch of pages to get to them, so I'd assume they have something written on them.
<>: Some people can. And then there is the collection mentality.

Jannie> <<thanks for the Dylan mp3>>: You're welcome.
<>: And yet, he still can't sing.

Imzadi> <<And since murphy hates engineers>>: His name is Sannuti here.
<<That does sound bad, doesn't it?>>: Which is why I laughed when I double checked the translation.
<<where do you buy a plasma cutter?>>: Next to where Wilek gets all his toys.
<<I'm already using UNIX>>: Command prompt? Have you chmoded yet?
<<Wouldn't it be better to just use wordpad or something?>>: I'm all for Notepad. And emacs isn't too bad either.
<<Tsuki no Neko -- Moon of Cat = Mooncat>>: Right, but the romanji tsuki has a number of translations. Namely: luck, moon/month/(P), a thrust/a pass/a lunge/a stabattached to/impression/sociality/appearance/furnished with/under/to. And besides, don't Japanese heads go to the right, so it'd be Cat of the Moon?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:42:18 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Xavier > I was joking, finding it humorous, that's all. Not attacking you or anybody. Don't get your knickers in a twist, 'kay? ; )

Josh > thanks; that was sweet! As for the Fett Family Vehicle, I defer to your knowledge. ::bow::

Mooncat > thanks to you, too; always nice to be an inspiration, no matter how weirdly <g>

Lexy > ohh, what fun, a whole nuther set of family dysfunction and the knot hasn't even been tied yet! Shame about the wedding plan conflict. I've heard that most parents want control of their kids' weddings to make up for their disappointment over their own (which were planned by _their_ disappointed parents and so on and so on back to the dawn of time). Often, the wedding isn't even about the happy couple but about making everybody else happy, or impressing the guests, or driving the other set of in-laws mad with envy, and other such heartwarming things. On the one hand, there's not causing more conflict and hence bending to their will; on the other, there's getting what _you_ want. Who's footing the bill has a lot to do with who gets their way, too. A compromise is always to let them have their fun, but make sure to set aside a special day for yourselves. Friends of ours had two weddings, one the big production for all the relations, one a private thing that meant more to them because it was about their feelings.

I must be the weirdest mother in the world ... Creepshow is on and I'm taping it for Becca ...

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:01:55 AM
IP: 67.226.47.185

Okay, I slightly revamped the new site with two more covers I've got done *and* my offer of ad space on the inside back covers of the issues. Check it out, and give me feedback. (and hey, if you're interested in the advertising dealie, let me know and I'll send you the details. :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:45:38 PM
IP: 216.234.98.3

Green Baron --<<I guess also less pressure is on you about kids since you have so many cousins. I am the last male Forsyth, so I feel some personal pressures to reproduce, but not from any of my family. All they want is me to be happy, but I've actualy rebelled against that request most of my life, because I consider that goal so groundless and empty. I do hope you get a new job soon. I guess I am lucky to be in the Army right when the Economy goes bad, but I miss having a cat and barracks policy won't allow pets. Well, the GI Bill can help with law school and lawyers can profit even in bad times.>>

Thanks for the sentiment. I'll play extra long with my fur babies in your honor *^_^* -- If you are ever in my neck of the woods, you are welcome to stop by and play with my kittens. Actually, I've never been pressured to have children. I've never really wanted to procreate either. I might adopt someday, if I feel the need to shape a new generation, but honestly I don't have any desire to have babies. At least right now. *^_^* If I came from a smaller family, cousin wise, I'd feel more obligated to continue the genes. As it is, I'm a little sorry not to pass on my father's genetic legacy. He was a cool guy and I'd love to pass on his genes, but not enough to go and make a baby any time soon.

I do like children, I just want to have to devote myself to parenting. I think if you are a parent, your children will become the center of your life, and your number one priority. Or should be. If I ever did have children, they would be my priority one. But for now I like being free, and being able to play and have fun and indulge myself shamelessly. *^_~*

<<Actually teh Catholci part was a joke, but I'm gald you told me. I always find one's history very improtant, but I am a man who lives history as much as SJ loves to ruffle someone's feathers or as much as Imzadi loves Macs.>>

I find family history very important too. =) But my own personal quirk is to talk about thing that touch my life in vivid detail. Sensual (touch, taste, scent, sound, visuals descriptions, and emotional context. Even the petty details of commercial value. Your interest in history and mine in defining things (and those other people and examples you mentioned) are part of what makes us unique individuals.

Which I always thought was pretty cool, each of us being who we are.

<<I am also impressed by your father who came from Formosa and built hismelf up form scratch. My maternal grandfather did the same, by gradyating HS at 15, College at 19 and law school at 23. No schoalrships existed then and Fordham wasn't cheap, but he had three jobs as a teacher toa bunch of tough kids in Brooklyn as well as a sports coach to keep those same kids from stuff like the mafia an dhad a night job before he went to law school. But it paid off when he was with the FBI in 29, so he had no worries about money as he made over 3 grand in the 30s.>>

Sounds like a very interesting life story. I treasure my own memories of my father and his recounting of the details of his life. We had very few moments together, as he worked very hard and I was a full time student. There weren't many hours in the day our paths crossed, and we didn't get to spend much time together physically. He died in 1996 of a mycardial infraction (sp?) while we were having lunch together. It was only the day after he'd come home from surgery (replacement of a heart valve) and there was no expectation that his health was in any danger. Apparently there was a small tear or something that meant he was bleeding where he shouldn't have been bleeding, and it clogged up something important.

We were just eating together when he had a seizure, it shocked me like nothing else has since shocked me. I called the ambulence... and it was a terrible mess from there on. All the things that went wrong would have been humorous if it weren't actual life and death. Or rather, just death. My parents only lived down the street from the nearest hospital. I ran to the street side enterance of the house to watch for the stupid ambulance, and watched them go down the wrong bloody street. My parents lived on Pinecrest, but two streets up from us on was an apartment complex called Pinecrest. Sometimes I wonder if my father would be alive today if the ambulence had gotten it right the first time. All in all it was a horrible experience, and totally devestated me. I can't even just type about it without becoming a soggy mess.

I miss him so much, sometimes it feels like a fist crushing my heart. I should have had decades more time to spend with him. He was only 54 when he died. Now all I have left are the memories of the stories he told me about his life growing up.

His parents, my grandparents, I only know from his stories. I met my grandmother only twice, and briefly, when she flew over from Taiwan to visit. and she was a tiny old woman who I really liked, but she didn't speak English and I don't speak Chinese.

Hmmm... it's 9:30 ish and I have some things to take care of. I may be back later tonight to post more. Right now I need to take a little break and wash my face.

until later
Mooncat >^,,^<

Mooncat
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:39:37 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Josh- I make stuff up in the fly myself. Perhaps your roomy and I should have a showdown;)

Ick I have been posting on and off, because this week has not been good. Huge HUGE fight with my in-laws. They say I am too quiet and it is freaking them out. They say I have problems with communication. I find that amusing. Here is why. Yes. I am an introvert in most situations. However, if they ask me something, and I give a one word response I have still communicated..have I not? Yes. I could have said more. I could have done more. But I think the real problem here is them misinturpreting my few words. They have decided that if I don't say a lot, it is because I am thinking way more and just not telling them. And that is what weirds them. Well, once again (as in school, and at work) I must thank ppl for assuming that I have a lot going on in my head. But sadly, there isn't. If I go to work, and do the EXACT same thing I do everyday, then come home and say my day was 'fine' then that's it. Done. If I go upstairs and I say, "I am going to bed now, goodnight." Doesn't that say it? But not for them. They are major extroverts, so instead of thinking,"Well, that is how she is. She just doesn't talk as much as we do. She answered are question didn't she? That's enough." They think, "But..but _we_ would have said more. So she hasn't communicated I guess." Wrong. I DID communicate. I think they are having a commincation problem. Because for weeks now, when I would say something like, "I already ate at work, I am going to go to bed early, goodnight." They would respond, "OK. Goodnight dear." or whatever. Ok. Now in that situation I would have to say that Lexy communicated. She didn't say a bizzillon words. But she communcated. However, the in-laws had a problem with their communication, because they communcated that things were "ok" when infact they were NOT. They were apparently bothered by a million things I have been doing for MONTHS now, and never told me. Because they kept it under raps for SOOOO long..this weekend it gave and I got ..well lets not get into it. But I am pretty freaked right now. The point is, it could have totally been avoided if they had simply told me what they wanted/expected from me upfront. Kai talked to them, and was told that they didn't want to 'nag' or 'bother' me. They were apparently hoping I would just 'fit in' on my own. Well I am so sorry to bust up their illusion. But if you want something...you really need to tell me. The family I came from is Sooo different from this one. They can't expect me to just pick up on things. IE: I NEVER had 'dinner/supper time'. You told mom what you wanted from teh store, she bought it, and you learned how to use the microwave oven. I love freedom, personally. I hate being told when to sit down and eat. What if I am not hungry then? Or have something to do? Well they didn't think on this too hard I guess. They decided that they would tell me it was no big deal, but apparently this (among other things) is a HUGE deal to them. They simply must have me at that table. Ok. Fine. I don't mind that. But why didn't someone tell me?? All this time I have been saying, "I'm gonna go to bed early ok?" And they have been responsding, "Sure no problem" when really they were upset. Well geez. How was I supposed to know this? Everyone is telling me now that I have a communication problem, and we need to try and work this out. I think that I am communicating JUST FINE. However, they are extroverts, I am an introvert. If I say a few words, they decide that isn't communicating because they would have said more. WRONG it IS communicating. If you respond back to me, making it sound like things are cool, then YOU have miscommunicated. Another problem is that they don't really know what to do with me. They were hoping I was just shy and would magically change into them anyday soon. (However, newsflash, I am not changing.) So they thought, "lets not say anything..it will sound like nagging." But they hadn't really realized themselves that when they said they would 'like me' to do something, that they really really wanted me to do it for sure. Just like with the wedding. Upset that I don't get to have what I want, but sad because I am sad because I don't get to have what I want. Goodness. I wish they'd make up their minds. Tell me that the wedding will be THIS way, tell me that dinner time is a MUST, tell me I have to sit and watch t.v at night instead of going to bed early. JUST TELL ME. Don't not tell me, then get upset cuz it didn't happen. And if you feel 'sad', because you had to tell me what to do. Well TOO BAD *L* Either you get your way and I don't, or you deal with my way. If two ppl are too different that is the way it goes. The kicker is I really DON'T care. I mean really. If they had just TOLD me I had to do some of these things, we would have never had a problem in the first place -_-; geez. Ah well, a friend of mine just called.

Siryn- Please. Email me so I can call you. I am SOOO sorry we missed eachother. (Read above post as to WHY I am so disorganized right now!:D)

Kaioto- I LOVE YOU!!!!!

(forgive spelling errors..*is in rush*)
lexy
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 08:24:37 PM
IP: 66.31.222.137

**rpish**
DPH enters the CR with a backpack. He pulls out his handy expandable flag pole and plants it in the CR. Then, he quickly hoists a white flag to the top of the flag pole. Next he pulls out his expandable table and chain and sets then down. Then, he places a sign on the table that reads "Reserved for the new CR admin: GXB". A couple of minutes later, a pizza delivery truck signs up and DPH signs for a 3XL NYC style pizza. DPH gently places the pizza box on the table, on top of a portable heater. DPH whistles and a couple of security guards show. DPH tells them to guard the pizza until GXB arrives to claim it.
**END rpish**

Sorry, but I prefer to get on the good side of the new admin right away.

Imzadi - <So, does this mean that if I say anything about about G2003 that I'll be REALLY banned, since the entire con staff has admin authority?> Wait a minute: if all the admins are on the G2k+3 staff, who will be policing the CR during G2k+3? <No we don't. We have one and a quarter, because the other three combined post with about 25% of the frequency of anyone else.> Are you saying that anyone becomes an admin starts posting less frequently?

Here's a riddle: which had better writing: TGC or Star Trek:Voyager?

Green Baron - <If you get too proud of your goodness you become a really nasty variety of evil. You don't want that.> I'll stick with being one of the resident moralists in the CR. Let's see. Next time you had back to the continental US, you can easily make 20 grand. My only brother doesn't have children of his own.

Yesterday, I took a psychological test as part of an evaluation for receiving some government help in finding a job. Man, identifying what was wrong in some pictures with a time limit was hard.

Spacebabie - I think you need to put a resident paranoid freak in the sim.

There are some advantages to having an amoral admin.

In other unrelated news, I finally got rid of some chocolate flavored granola bars that I had bought a long time ago.

Imzadi - <Manhattan has serious crowding problems, and those buildings are sorely needed.> Here's the answer: prison/courthouse airships with small planes to carry people back and forth. Hmm. An hotel airship wouldn't have to pay taxes on land, right?

::Aims flame thrower at JC since Spring 2002 hasn't arrived yet::
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 08:09:55 PM
IP: 204.94.193.40

Revel: CARPET! Licking this CARPET for hours.

EATING the box.

You've mixed your euphamisms ;-)
Josh
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 05:28:20 PM
IP: 64.161.25.174

Test are done, papers are done, one quiz to go, three days and counting. Soooooooooooooon, very soon. only three classes this week, why? because they are evil and did not let me have two weeks off, but I'll live, I will make the best of the one I will get.

Winterwolf- do you want to know what is really sad that I can claim to? I can tell the difference between a Dodge, Chevy, and Ford Disel just from the way they sound. Don't even have to see it to know what kind it is. Yes, I've lived in this state too long.

Josh- what would be funny is if someone was actually claiming to be you, they we could see you get mad.

Greg- You know what your Admid anouncment reminds me of, this one scene in a Simpsons Episode. "Uh oh, Moses is back, everyone look busy!"

Spike- that has to be the scariest thing I have seen all week!

Not much to say today, going back to reading. I'm trading time between school stuff, Silversilk, and Spike's fics.

"I've been licking this cardboard for four hours and I still don't feel like a lesbian!"
-Cartman, South Park-

later
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 04:58:30 PM
IP: 129.120.230.108

Another variety of more menial days ahead, but this week has been uneventful and that is fortunate. I need to email my cousin so I can see my godson this weekend. I promised to visit two weeks and well it woudl help if I could call locally without claiming to call my squad leader. Well, my cousin is a Staff Sergeant so it is kind of an Official call :)

On to posts.

Jannie> Yep, I just wanted tos how that example. My motehr doesn't knwo that I continue my friednship with Dr. barnes. No need to bring it up. When he's best man at my my wedding, my mother will have to suck it in or she will have forgotten about all of that by then. Its a good few years away so she will have forgotten.

As for your fanatsies, remember that if you want to marry a European, make certain they bathe everyday :)

Mooncat> I can understand about chidlren equaling wealth. I wasn't raised in that view. My motehr was one of four kids and my father one of three and I consider three children a large family, but my grandfather was one of eight children and from a wealthy family until 1929. My mother's father was one of six, though not wealthy, but he lived better than a lot of Irish Catholics in the early twentieth century.

I guess also less pressure is on you about kids since you have so many cousins. I am the last male Forsyth, so I feel some personal pressures to reproduce, but not from any of my family. All they want is me to be happy, but I've actualy rebelled against that request most of my life, because I consider that goal so groundless and empty. I do hope you get a new job soon. I guess I am lucky to be in the Army right when the Economy goes bad, but I miss having a cat and barracks policy won't allow pets. Well, the GI Bill can help with law school and lawyers can profit even in bad times.

<> I went to a grade school run by nuns, but there were all of five nuns there. The sweetest one was Sr. Victor who ran the library. She was old and I think she was converted by St. Paul :), but she had a lot of humility and also visited prisoners every Thursday,and in retrospect I'm glad I met her even though I wasn't that faithful back then.

Actually teh Catholci part was a joke, but I'm gald you told me. I always find one's history very improtant, but I am a man who lives history as much as SJ loves to ruffle someone's feathers or as much as Imzadi loves Macs.

I am also impressed by your father who came from Formosa and built hismelf up form scratch. My maternal grandfather did the same, by gradyating HS at 15, College at 19 and law school at 23. No schoalrships existed then and Fordham wasn't cheap, but he had three jobs as a teacher toa bunch of tough kids in Brooklyn as well as a sports coach to keep those same kids from stuff like the mafia an dhad a night job before he went to law school. But it paid off when he was with the FBI in 29, so he had no worries about money as he made over 3 grand in the 30s.

Sadly, my father's family went teh otehr direction. Over the last century the wealth disappeared due to pride, lack of ambition, plus abandoning Scottish thrift. Maybe I have a desire to be rich to make up for my ancestros' folly. I know I despise pride because I feel it has caused destruction to my family,a nd I used to be a suckup in school just to annoy my mother and to fight the pride she wanted to promote.

<<It's wierd. I feel like a child in my father's side of the family, and an old lady in my mother's side.>> I'm the tenth grandchild on my mother's side and in the middle among my second cousins. Actually I'm older than the ones I know but contemproaries. I have a fifth cosuin who is 9 years older, but I'm ahead of her by a generation. I do admit I really love meeting the more distant cousins, like at a party when I met a tenth cousin, plus I love connecting the family tree lines. My littel godosn is the first of his generation and I wonder who will follow. perhaps it will be my firstborn who is next. I hope so, because little Tommy needs a second cousin :)

GXB> <<All part of my crusade to destroy good wholesome family values.>> I thought they were already destroyed.

DPH> <<Are you as evil as I am good?>> Don't be too complimentary. If you get too proud of your goodness you become a really nasty variety of evil. You don't want that.

Jan> I prefer cats, but I like a dog who is clam and won't lick me. I hate being licked by a dog.

Kaioto> <<He knew Jesus was innocent. He had the authority to forbid the execution, disperse the mob, or possibly even simply imprison Christ until the crowds calmed down. He chose the easy way out, to the benefit of his own person, over what he knew was right.>> He was a Roman, what do you expect of an Empire run by degenerate pedophiles? And Pilate was not a good man to start with. He was an associate of Livius Sejanus, who was head of the Praetorian Guard and ran the Empire when Tiberius was too busy engaged in perverted sexual acts on the Isle of Capri with boys, girls, and lievstock. When Caligula and Macro (number two man to Sejanus) deposed Sejanus, Pialte was spared form teh purge of all associated with Sejanus. Pialte was discovered when he slaughtered a Jewish vilage believing that gold was being stored there. Well, tehre was no gold, so Tiberius got win of the blunder and discovered Pilate was an allay of Sejanus they missed, so Pialte was sent back to Rome for his execution. This was a man of weak morals, even for a Roman, so appeasing the crowd by letting them have Jesus.

I just don'tthink Pilate is as prominent as many Chisitians giev him credit for. He was not a provincial Governor and even Acts makes reference to the Governor being in Damascus. Pilate was the equivalent of a police chief and was just there. Pilate may not have seen Jesus guilty fo any crime as it was a Jewish law that was broken, not a Roman one. tacitus makes mention of the trial but Pilate is not that major a figure in Roman history. If he was not corrupt and an appointee of Sejanus, he woudl be even less noteworthy in Roman history, and he only gets a few Bible verses, because he was the last authority on Jesus' sentence. He had no idea of who Jesus was and did not even worship the same God we do.

I am not justifying his cowardice, but I do find it laughable that a flase gospel has a tale of Pilate drowning himself in the Tiber River out of guilt only to be rejected by the river. I think we give him more cridt than he deserves.

Imzadi> Yep, standard deviation was mentioned in some of my courses when test grades were given, but I forget that formula. I remembered all that stuff in Statistics, which is a shame I forgot it, now.

<<I'll kill you.>> LOL!! I knew that would be your response.

<<Historic? The entire city is less than 100 years old.>> I thought there was a part of it that was older, but well I got a cousin there, though I guess we have very differnet preferences. I consider a hosue less than 100 years old to be new.

<<Its not a "fan" issue. Its the best way to do it.>> I guess. It does make things easier, in the long run. I imagien I will always be converting back to the old system in my own mind.

One other question? What the hell is Prada?

Firestorm> I think the nukes are just aimed. It will probably be a show of force. I hoep no one clals our bluff, though. Its amazing how well this show of force has worked since the 50s, but they felt the same right before WWI.

SJ> I say, I say...now pay attention boy, only you can prevent flame wars :)

Insvi> I know the Copeland's place has many more than 10. You must hav ehad a godo school in NYC to live in Suffolk and commute back to NYC everyday. I'm glad my HS was a 10-15 minute streetcar ride and one zip code away. College was even closer, for my two years back at Loyola.

IMPFAC> <<My suitemate has spent $1500 on alcohol alone over the last semester and a half! And he drives an Audi, always has the nicest clothes, etc etc., so I sort of understand the resentment.>>

I use teh bus, have spent a total of 30 euros on liquers, and I buy them locally because everything but gas is cheaper on the economy and I own all but three slacks, one pair of jeans, three suits, four shirts. I would brag about how much of a good deal I got than spending a lot. I would be ashamed if I spent too much money on soemthing and I may ahve mentioend buying two Turkish rugs for 4 grand, but in the states those two rugs would coast 15,000 so I'm bragging about the good deal. I'm jealous that my motehr can buy a fancy outfit with hate and gloves for five bucks at the Salvation Army, but I could never find a good suit there, though I did get a nice oxford cloth shirt at Salvation Army for two bucks and it was half off so only 1 dollar :)

SJ> Well, the Arabs respect force and they quit whining when we strike back, becaus ethey see America as a bunch fo soft sissies. I think all out waris bets avodied, but I for one woudl wnat bombs avoided in taht region. If there was a way to wipe out the enemies without destroying any buildings, I'd back it. If we could wipe out Sadaam and have Turkey take Iraq, one fo our few Mid East allies would be more powerful and I could visit Babylon and Ur and all of Mesopatamia :)

You want to be like Israel? Every male and female Israeli gives a few years to the military. Granted, with College you can be an Officer, but I doubt you'd like the idea of a draft, plus draft soldiers don't get the same benefits as regular soldiers in most countries.

But hey, if you want, a recruiter will be waiting, and even Congressmen don't trust recruiters :)

Impfac> The Jews are not liked by Arabs, because they are seen as Western and envied for their succesful government and high standard of living. The Palestinians are a good tol for Arabs to hate Israel blaming them for the mistreatment of Palestinians, but the otehr Arabs won't do anything for the Palestinians, and while I do feel bad that Catholic and Orthodox Palestinians (not all are muslim) acnnot go to Jerusalem peacefully, the Palestinian Christians have not renounced Hamass or the suicide bombings. Beisdes, they danced when we got bombed. They ought to be lucky we haevn't given Israel the go ahead to slaughter every last one of them, but are instead trying to help their sorry desert flea bitten asses.

<<handing Washington DC over to Bin Laden for a promise that he won’t slaughter any more Americans.>> Good thing our President is named Bush and not Clinto..er Chamberlain.

<> Most of our enemies there were Arabs, not Afghanis. Most Afghanis Taliban quickly changed sides and if we play our cards right, the Stan folks which are ethnically the same people as the Turks can be our muslim buddies against the treacherous arabs. I woudl much ratehr see Turkey and Israel being the main powers in the middle East, too. Give Israel the oil and Turkey all the historic sites (minus the ones in Israel).

Metaldemon> You know Impfac?

Imzadi> <<HAHAHAHAHAH! Yes, that's it! A conspiracy by the greedy jews to wipe out the center of the world's financial markets! That will really benefit the hebrews!>> I guess after you get syphilis from your camel, it makes sense though :)

<<Now, if only they didn't have mandatory military service and crappy location...I'd live there.>> Plus taht story about a teacher slinginga n M16 on his back whne he took the kids on a field trip (maybe a good idea in South Central, too) is an insight into how dangerous itcan be there. The thousand Israelis murdered there last year is the equivalent to 40,000 Americans killed.

<<Anytime you want to know something, just ask yourself "what would SJ do?". That's probably the answer.>> What woudl SJ do? The evil alternative to WWJD :)

Mooncat> <<Gods but they are the most sweet and adorable kittens I've every had. All my kittens have been fantastic, but these seem extra bouncy and friendly and have these huge purrs.>> I'm jealous. I jsut can't wait to see my mother's new kittens, Henry and Sebastian, in July.

Spacebabie> <<You don’t want to risk the wrath of the ghost of Reverend Attila.>> Well, in Ravenloft terms, he's a fifth magnitude ghost and JEB can assure that's powerful. He won't be pleased. He'll do soemthing awful like have SJ in a sandwich between Hillary Clinton and Janet Reno or Janet Reno and Harvey Firestein :)

Warpmind> Stone runes...Fitting for you, Conan :)

Now, off to bed.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau, Germany
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 04:16:41 PM
IP: 140.156.11.59

*Warpmind strolls in, grinning fiendishly.*
Well, today I managed to get my cuddly li'l Warhammer 40,000 army up to 1500 points... And, playing those deliciously, cute li'l xenomorphic Tyranids, I'm bound to have a LOT of fun... *Smirk*

Anyway...

Star Wars 2 matters: Well, I'm probably going to watch it... someday. I KNOW that, what with the trailers generally being supposed to focus on the best parts, the film's gonna, hum, ***** us sideways, but be that as it may, I don't think it is possible for me to get disappointed. Unless Jar Jar shows up with a few kids, of course... *Blink* Oh, drat... NOW I've jinxed it... :p

Mooncat: Patience, huh? *Sigh* Well, at least I have the patience of a saint when I have to... Some of my Highly Unethical Plots are estimated to ripen for a few centuries, at least... };) Oh, and wouldn't it be more grammatically correct with "Neko no Tsuki"?

Spike: Warped mind of Lar de Souza? WARPED MIND??? Don't you think that's interferin' on MY turf? };)

Well, that's about it for now. Cheerio, gang. I'm off to do more battle animations for the legendary CRPG I'm working on. (At this point, I'm so fed up with simple animations, I'm makin'em Extra Brutal just to vent the steam. It works. AND I get those hard-to-get special attacks ready, too...)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:56:47 PM
IP: 193.216.45.181

:::Cleans the cr off all charred bits.:: Now for some atmosphere. Places a beach in one area a flowery meadow in another. Adds a touch of a rainforest with a waterfall in another and places a technical area filled with computers in another. In the center is the Tea Table of Peace. She fills it with all sorts of soda’s coffee’s and teas. Then food, pizza tacos, cakes cookies, salads, chickens, tacos, ice cream and candy.

There that’s better.

While walking Perdita, aka the stupid fat bitch, we found a dead snaked. Poor thing. It was a pretty corn snake too. My dad showed it to my brother before burying it. My brother was afraid of it.

Spoilers for Boston Public
Very good episode. I actually felt sorry for Harvey after he found out about those pictures.
I’m really beginning to hate Marla and OMG Goober actually grew a pair!
Spoilers end.

SJ>>>That Kitten poem was bad. I know your trying to irk Mooncat but c’mon. You don’t want to risk the wrath of the ghost of Reverend Attila.

Greg>>>Congrats on becoming an admin. Since you post a lot more often I know you will keep this room in line.

Jim R<<>> People people were upsetting the Lurkers.

Firestorm<<<In THEORY, LM and I want to go this year as Egyptian gods. >>>Let me guess Anubis and Sehkmet?

Jannie<<<I’ve never heard of that before! You mean like deep frying the candy bar?>>>Yeah it’s a fair food thing.

Josh<<<Midterm tomorrow morning in engineering economics.>>>Good Luck<<<instead of rebuilding it, we should have...get this...search lights>>>Some people are distracted by bright flashing lights.<<<Huh?>>>You sit on your butt right? There is a crack on your butt. So technically your on your butt crack.

Male Sim “Ten Haute Ho”
Female Sim “Friendship Como esta.”

What it sounds like Sims are saying.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:30:00 PM
IP: 67.25.55.216

*decides that the room needs lightening up and posts a pic from the warped mind of Lar de Souza -- a funny, funny artist!*
Spike
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:12:15 AM
IP: 64.216.237.157

Alright something I posted has already been blown way out of context. Maybe if I made this more clear I said:

Um, Not really the Angel of the Night I’m talking about is the one who joined up with me in the ERS Universe a couple of years ago. She is the proclaimed Gargoyles Porn Queen, and is one of the founding queens of Erotica fic-writers. The other two being Madame Destine and Mooncat.

And then here's the kicker, well right after that statement there's this:

(Hey, don't look at me that way this is what a fan told me in a chat room.)

A fan! One person, not a whole group of people, a Fan! I don't know where you people assessed from that smidgen of pargraph that Christine Morgan was forgotten dethroned or whatever. It just doesn't make any sense. For as far as we know the chatter didn't even read a Christine Morgan Fan-fic is that REALLY so bad?

I'm sorry if I'm coming off flaming anyone, cause I am clearly not. I just hate it when something that someone else said can be taken WAY out of context.

I'm done ranting now...

*sips his hot chocolate and goes back to GD'ing* Oh, yeah and i you do feel that I flamed you *points to the email with his finger* There's my addy, I don't feel like causing another flamewar cause that ain't my style. >:)

Sugu raku ni shite yaru. (I will soon end your pain) IX9

Invsi Xavier - [tjarred@hotmail.com]
The city, of, eternal sin
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 09:53:27 AM
IP: 24.189.100.203

SJ> Everyone (from Dictionary.com). eve·ry·one. Every person; everybody.

And yes I yelled at impfac AFTER I yelled at everyone, and this is why. I'm not going to tolerate anybody who doesn't post here and comes in for the purpose of flaming someone, I don't give a shit who it is, or who they're flaming. For example, if Doug (under one of his many names) came in here and started flaming you again, you bet your ass I'd do something about it.

Okay?
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 09:20:54 AM
IP: 216.179.5.221

Josh > "I discovered they pay civil engineering students to play with dirt." -- as the geotech professor I had junior year used to repeatedly correct us (in a heavy Indian accent), "It's is NOT dirt, it's SOIL!" ;)

Mooncat > I can confidently say Madame Destine enjoys your worship. ;) As for sushi... I've never been able to get into it. I know many people who are adicts and swear by it... me, I can take it or leave it... especially when it's being served at a "fast food" type place.

Time for work... off to see the Planet of the Cubes.
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 07:14:40 AM
IP: 66.72.204.97

Josh -- Actually, the Tako was quite nice. They sliced it thinner than in than my fave restaurants, so I think for amount of Tako, it is the same as 4 pieces grocery store as 2 pieces at a restaurant, and the cost is about the same. But that isn't too bad because it makes it stretch farther.

I also went back after dropping my friend home (the grocery is on the way) and picked up some of the boxed maki -- it wasn't nearly as nice as the sushi though. I think I'll have to go in the middle of day to get what I want -- otherwise it's a mix of stuff I don't want with the stuff I do. I don't want the smoked salmon, or the shrimp. I do want the Tako, the Maguro/Tuna, the Unagi (eel), etc. Unfortunately they seem to mix the Tuna maki with Shrimp, and the Unagi with the Salmon. =(

No, it isn't rubbery at all. Slightly chewy, but that's what I like about Tako. And unfortunately all the Tako gets snatched up if you don't get it made to order.

Midwest sushi is pretty nice. It must be better on the coasts where you get super fresh fish. But things like lobster, etc get shipped live. Nothing like a spicy lobster cone roll... like a mainline of pure pleasure straight to the brain. Tako is pre cooked, as is Unagi. The rest of the fish is fairly fresh, if not killed right in there before they make a pretty treat for you to eat out of it.

Got to love modern tech that brings you fresh produce from anywhere in the world right to your local grocer.

Warpmind -- soon. patience is the dark jedi. *^_~*

Christine -- You are still the Goddess of Gargoyle Naughty (and Nice) Fic to me! *^_^* First garg fic I ever remember reading was the one with Godiva. Mmm... Godiva... And Jerricho is my inspiration for the Jezebel saga. Mmm... Jerricho...

Mme. Destine of course is my Goddess of Gargoyle erotica. *^_~* and I humbly lay my Immortal Blood series at her feet as an offering of devotion.

I'd pretty flattered that my stuff would even be mentioned in the same company as yours. I only started writing Garg fiction since 4th of July. It's been what, 7 months?

I'm just following in the wake of some incredible ground breakers. And loving the journey. Hey, the scenery alone makes it worth while *^_~*

gah, speakin of fiction, if I don't grab some sleep soon, I'll be in no condition to write or draw at all tomorrow. All that, plus doing taxes, bills, and the litter boxes... yikes. And squirting pink, bubblegum flavored antibiotic liquid into kittens who HATE the taste of bubblegum. Fortunately these little babies don't seem to mind it as much as the last bunch of kittens I had to give this too. Once they get the mouthful swallowed, they forget they just had somethng nasty tasting, and immediately start purring and being playing on your lap.

Gods but they are the most sweet and adorable kittens I've every had. All my kittens have been fantastic, but these seem extra bouncy and friendly and have these huge purrs.

Must take pictures of them, soon as they get over their sniffles.

well, 3:30am, must go to sleep before I pass out on the computer.

end notes --

Gside - Tsuki no Neko -- Moon of Cat = Mooncat >^,,^<

Greg B - Congrats on your Admin status.

Goodnight peoples
Mooncat >^,,^<

Mooncat
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 04:31:24 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Today was an interesting day. Had one early morning class and then absolutely nothing until 330PM, where I had 3 back to back lab and review sessions. The review was worthless, the lab was a blast. I discovered they pay civil engineering students to play with dirt.

Midterm tomorrow morning in engineering economics.

Spring break in 10 days. Er, not that I'm counting or anything.

I found out about the latest suicide bombing in Israel from the LA times site...god it must be scary to live there.

So, does this mean that if I say anything about about G2003 that I'll be REALLY banned, since the entire con staff has admin authority?

Some jerk-off has decided that in the place of the WTC, instead of rebuilding it, we should have...get this...search lights. Two massive 50-spotlight arrays that point skyward, can be seen from space, etc. I'm sorry, but this is such a waste of money, time, and effort that its rediculous. And who's gonna wind up paying for it? ME. If you need a memorial, build something that doesn't prevent the space from ever being used again. Manhattan has serious crowding problems, and those buildings are sorely needed.

Alright lets see...

Hudson: <<so I'm not a -TGS- Admin, but its close enough>>: Details details. <<Maybe to check tgs, and find yourself at a webmail-promt, or something..heh..ahem>>: I was wondering what "cheerleader fantasies" was doing on the S8 server.

Invsi: <<Walks in and looks at the flames>>: Heh, sorry about that. No, no I'm not. <<that god-awful flick Queen of the Damned>>: It had its good moments. You just have to sit back sometimes and let yourself enjoy the stupidity. Besides, it had a killer soundtrack. <>: Even if they suck, they are worth my time. <<you really didn’t give me enough information to come up with a post>>: True. My bad. I was under the impression that the mac cult pervaded everything. <<so let's drop the subject and talk like sub-normal humanoids?>>: I prefer "supernormal". <<when are you and so-and-so getting married?>>: Tell him to use my answer: "never. now go away." <<uptight little prick>>: I don't think being uptight or being a prick has anything to do with wealth. There are uptight pricks from all over the economic spectrum ;-) <<WORSHIP ME SINCE I MAKE MORE THAN YOU>>: LOL. Only in computer land. <<A fool and their money is soon parted>>: What does this have to do with your rant?

JC: <<where the hell is season 4 of gargoyles saga?>>: It hasn't been written. Stop asking.

IMPFAC: <<My suitemate has spent $1500 on alcohol alone over the last semester and a half!>>: OUCH! that guy drinks too much. Is that a comment about how rich your roommate is? Cuz There are plenty of poor kids who manage to get $1500 a semester to blow on drugs or whatever else. <<he drives an Audi, always has the nicest clothes>>: Audis aren't that pricey...is it a TT? ;-) <<I’m extremely cheap>>: I think its great to be cheap with some stuff, especially food. That's why places like Costco are your friend...$3 meals on the average 8-) <<with Josh (I hate that name>>: it hates you. I asked. Maybe you should change your name to bob or something.

Mooncat: <<They got the kitten sniffles>>: cats are so funny when the sneeze. <>: Oh. Nevermind then! <<You give a slightly better argument and use actual facts to support your point of view when we get in our little opinion tussles>>: Thank you for recognizing that. <<he likes to use misinformation repetively as a strategy>>: That's a great strategy! <>: Why is that cute? <<4 pieces of Tako (Octapus) for only $4.80, woo hoo!!>>: Now THAT is a deal. Is it decent? I'd always imagined sushi in the midwest wouldn't be very good, cuz the seafood is less than fresh. And don't you find Tako to be a bit...rubbery? <>: Can't you just use Word's grammar check feature to see if you have sentence fragments?

Spacebabie: <<It just doesn’t seem right, like buying Windows software for a Mac>>: Fortunately most mac people don't pay for windows software 8-) <<Hey I flirt with whoever I want to flirt with.>>: I didn't say you couldn't. I just said I've ruled you out. <<The only crack Josh is on is butt crack>>: Huh?

Sevarius Jr: <<The horrifying, sickening sound of human bodies hitting the ground with terminal velocity>>: That is an ugly sound, I agree. <<like the people jumping to their deaths>>: Better chances than waiting for the building to fall! <<filthy disgusting beasts that walk on their hind legs and pretend to be men>>: Squirrels? <>: Will that somehow prevent this from happening in the future? I'm all for violence, but I don't think violence for the simple sake of revenge is worth it. If we're gonna go over there, we should nuke it. completely obliterate all traces of life over there, and then we'll never have to worry about this crap again. <<Zionists>>: HAHAHAHAHAH! Yes, that's it! A conspiracy by the greedy jews to wipe out the center of the world's financial markets! That will really benefit the hebrews! <<these animals will be more than happy to bomb their countries as well.>>: Especially if the price is right. <<They took the bastard and they blew half his f!cking head off>>: Now, if only they didn't have mandatory military service and crappy location...I'd live there. <<nice to see Christopher Lee play a dark Jedi>>: I don't think that guy could play nice to save his soul. <<Please tell me you can deliver a better come back than that>>: Consider your audience here. <<you really know NOTHING about Josh>>: Which really says a lot, since its easy to pick up a lot about me just from my posts. <>: You're close enough. Anytime you want to know something, just ask yourself "what would SJ do?". That's probably the answer. <<he has enough balls to post messages using his own name>>: Thanks, I think. <>: You are so full of sh*t. You're as much of a pig as I am. <>: LOL! <<Someone has been an uppity bitch to Jannie & Josh these past few days, and it sure wasn't IMPFAC, so it is might odd that he's the one getting yelled at>>: That's why he said EVERYONE SHUT UP.

GXB: Congrats on your promotion to admin! Now do us all a favor and DON"T SUCK. <<he just delegated authorithy to avoid yelling at everyone." Thankfully I do enjoy yelling at everyone>>: Bah, I could do your job. Asleep. Because I yell in my sleep. <<SHUT THE FUCK UP!>>: This CR is gonna get real boring real fast.

Gside: <<Right, class>>: And since murphy hates engineers...morning classes. <<Someone has to write all the text around the paper comics, right?>>: I think an engineer could do that. We need humanities majors to serve us food. <<The Thrusting Cat?>>: That does sound bad, doesn't it?

LM: Good luck! <<We've got *4* CR admins now>>: No we don't. We have one and a quarter, because the other three combined post with about 25% of the frequency of anyone else.

Jim R: <<my new USB 2-button mouse w/ scroll wheel to page down>>: I love my three-button scroller. They just came out with a really sweet apple-style 2-button scroller. It's buttonless, like the pro mouse and rocks left/right for clicking. I want one.

Fire Storm: <<those pens ARE cool>>: My parents got me a couple of them...so I'd have one when I lost the first ;-) They keep turning up though after I think I've lost them. Very weird. <<a nice plasma cutter>>: where do you buy a plasma cutter? <<it would be nice to see them try!>>: Agreed. And entertaining. <<a REAL leader could rise up and take over EASILY>>: Or, I could do it. <<as human shields>>: Hear hear! <>: Ack! Where can I get it? <<we wouldn't be at the brink of THERMONUCLEAR WAR!>>: You hippies, always worrying. <<It is a fruit!>>: No, its a computer. That's like calling a Gateway a cow. <<are you willing to allow someone to shove a piece of metal through your shaft?>>: Of course not. Not that I don't value her pleasure...but I value my body as well. <<OW!>>: OUCH! That sounds really painful. <<They deserve it>>: Oh, like that's ever been a criterion for punishment before. <<LM and I want to go this year as Egyptian gods>>: Which ones? <<there are things in the paper BESIDES comics?>>: Yeah: advertisements. <>: LOL. <<Don't you just love those?>>: They do rock. Of course, it will be a cold day in hell before Apple ships one.

Coyote: <<let me know what ya think>>: Looks great! Can't wait to own the first issue...provided its only $0.25. <<it seem like a void where common sense gets sucked out of people's brains like so much tapioca pudding?>>: A perfect job.

Jan: <<smell me!>>: Why? <<if a dog(s) are chasing livestock, the owner is allowed to shoot the dog(s) without consequences or punishment from the law>>: LOL. I swear, they have the weirdest laws in the south. PETA would have a fit. <<the detectives gave me a shiny badge of my own. *L* ok ok, it’s plastic – but it’s still shiny!>>: This explains a lot about the current state of law enforcement ;-) <<you goober>>: Oh I'm a goober now, am I? <<My cousin was a Col. in the Air Force at the time>>: So, does that mean you can fly a plane? <<At least in most cases>>: Yeah whatever. <<Have you heard back from any of your interviews?>>: Yes, but nothing I'd call conclusive yet. Applied Materials said I was recommended as being "a really good fit for the company" and LACSD seems to be very interested in me as well. The problem is that neither of them have very good locations, which sucks. But I'll figure something out. Even if I have to drive to Whittier every day. <<They sure don’t make ‘toons like that anymore>>: So true. <<of course we assumed it was the arabs who did this! I didn’t look up into the sky as the Towers were being attacked and say, “OMG! The Swiss have attacked us!>>: Hey, those swiss are damned sneaky! <>: I do! They're bastards! ;-) <>: I think most people do that. Unfortunately, some tastes run more expensive than others. <>: Now THIS one is debateable. if your favorite food in the world is, say, lobster, then you are not going to get as much enjoyment out of a $6 meal as a $50 meal. Not that the $6 won't satisfy your appetite, though ;-) <<Is this in addition to or in place of?>>: We should be so lucky. <<It wasn’t anywhere near as funny as #1>>: Sad but true. <<Josh is a Mac-freak ;) Maybe someday he’ll wise up, though>>: I'm already using UNIX. <<it’s a guy-thing>>: Um...I still have no idea what she's talking about. <<You mean like deep frying the candy bar?>>: Ewww! It's all about FROZEN snickers bars 8-) <<He now weighs 8 lbs 12 oz! Porker ;) Not bad considering 4 weeks ago he weighed 7 lbs 3 oz>>: Wow. if he keeps this up, he'll weigh a ton in just 98.5 years! ;-)

Christine: <<dethroned, or forgotten>>: I don't think you're the queen of gargoyles porn...just of gargoyles fanfiction. Though I could be mistaken. <<here's the keys to the old jumker>>: If you checked out some of the books, you'll find out that the "old junker" is a finely tuned craft, the perfect bounty hunting machine. It'd be quite an honor to fly that thing ;-) Listen to me, I'm such a nerd.

Patrick Toman: <<My asbestos suit is at the cleaners>>: Doesn't that give you cancer? <>: Wouldn't it be better to just use wordpad or something? <<It obstructs my view of Venus>>: Because really, nothing could possibly obstruct the view of Uranus...heh heh heh heh... <<There are some things money can't buy>>: No there aren't. You pay for your TV to watch those schmucks do that ;-) <<I'm beginning to hate Yahoo.>>: Vote with your wallet!

Hmmm...need to sleep.

Going from DOS to Linux is like trading a glider for an F117.
- Lawrence Foard, entropy@world.std.com

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 03:03:48 AM
IP: 64.161.25.174

Is it finally cooling off in here? My asbestos suit is at the cleaners.

Small comment on the posts with all the question marks in them... I don't think the input form is liking the cut and paste from Word. I'm going to guess the "smart quotes" are to blame. So if that's the case for anyone, you can turn those off in Word in the preferences menu.

Warner Brother's characters > I like Marvin the Martian best. "I'm going to blow up the Earth. It obstructs my view of Venus."

Star Wars Episode 2 > Flash special effects: $20 million. Musical score: $2 million. Make-up budget for Queen Amidala: $1 million. Watching costumed SW fans standing in line for a week to be the first line George Lucas's pockets: Priceless. There are some things money can't buy.

Fanfic theft > I've got deja vu all over again.

Yahoo problems > I'm beginning to hate Yahoo. Ever since they sold their soul to the pop up adds it just hasn't been the same.
And now I should really go to bed... :: wanders off to pass out ::
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:34:15 AM
IP: 66.72.204.97

Coyote: DAMN, that link looks good. :) (and yeah, I was wondering why you were so quiet there ;)

Greg: Your loyalties don't surprise me, but REALLY frustrate me. Someone has been an uppity bitch to Jannie & Josh these past few days, and it sure wasn't IMPFAC, so it is might odd that he's the one getting yelled at.

No wait, scratch that, it's most definitely NOT odd that he's the one getting yelled at.

Sorry, IMPFAC, you got the deck stacked against you now, my friend.
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:32:58 AM
IP: 207.172.11.147

<<the Angel of the Night I’m talking about is the one who joined up with me in the ERS Universe a couple of years ago. She is the proclaimed Gargoyles Porn Queen, and is one of the founding queens of Erotica fic-writers. The other two being Madame Destine and Mooncat.>>

Wow ... dethroned, or forgotten! ; )

Saw the Ep. II trailer. Promising action, but whiny teen rebel angst Anakin Skywalker might be even more annoying than ain't-he-cute helpful kiddie Anakin Skywalker. Still don't care for the beard on Obi-Wan, and the attempt to show where Leia got her fashion sense is only moderately less bad than the parade float Amidala costumes. The main bad guys have a nice sinister evil going on. Think the Fett family just likes that particular design, or is that the very same flying hair dryer from Empire Strikes Back? "You're all grown up now, Boba ... here's the keys to the old jumker." We'll see it, but we're not going to stand in a big line for this one.

Book stuff > stalled on Truegold; got to put in some heavy thinking tonight. Sent off 3-chaps-query-synop of Gifted Children this morning. No other news as of yet.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, March 11, 2002 11:59:17 PM
IP: 67.226.75.227

Jan: Ravyn currently is at home on Spring Break. She sends along her regards. :)
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, March 11, 2002 11:37:37 PM
IP: 216.234.100.68

I am passing this message on:

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DPH
AR, USA
Monday, March 11, 2002 11:26:59 PM
IP: 204.94.193.46

Greetings all. I don't normally post in these parts, but an incident has come to my attention which seems to require public clarification. You lucky folks got chosen as the forum[*]. Sorry about that. :-(

Last Thursday, a story entitled "Between Darkness and Earth" was posted to the fanfiction archive under the author name of "Demona". This story was copied more-or-less verbatim (though with some sections removed) from a story of the same name posted by Amanda Flowers back in 1996. I emailed "Demona" asking for the plagiarized story to be taken down and for an apology to be posted to the archive; the story *was* taken down, but it seems increasingly clear that no public apology will be forthcoming.

Therefore, I would like to point out for the record that "Between Darkness and Earth" was originally authored by Amanda Flowers, and is still available in the archive under her name. I would encourage those of you who read the plagiarized version to go read the (correct, complete, and spell-checked) original. I will not dwell on the act of plagiarism itself; I think it goes without saying that this kind of action is both detrimental to the community and individually despicable, and I'm personally disgusted that the problem came up at all, but there you go.

*sigh* As far as I'm concerned, that's all that needs to be said. OTOH, if someone wants to make a flamewar out of it, I wouldn't be too surprised either. The email address below is valid; this post is not intended as a drive-by flaming. Clarifications, explanations, random discussion, or albatross, in email or in this-here forum, are all welcome (or at least "going to happen anyway"), at least until the CR admins say otherwise.

[*] Because of the people who hang out here, not because of TGS.

Benjamin Gilbert - [bgilbert@backtick.net]
Monday, March 11, 2002 11:26:38 PM
IP: 128.2.66.160

*walks in showing off my shiny new Detective badge* hehe smell me! ;)
I cracked a huge murder case today!! Ok, ok… not a huge murder case… well, not really a murder case either… *confesses* someone shot a couple of dogs and then dumped them on the doorstep of the local humane kennel/shelter. They shot the dogs because they had been chasing sheep and the guy thought they were from the shelter, so he returned them. He wrapped them up in newspapers – which included a newspaper from the Eastern Star and the address label said, “treasurer”…. I happened to know who the treasurer is for our chapter and once I said the name, the detectives all said, “Ricky (last name) (the son of the treasurer). Sure enough, he had shot the dogs and dumped them. In these parts of the country, if a dog(s) are chasing livestock, the owner is allowed to shoot the dog(s) without consequences or punishment from the law. The only thing that he could actually be charged with is some kind of misdemeanor of illegal dumping or something like that. I hate that the dogs were killed, but the detectives found out that these particular dogs were constantly chasing livestock and the owner had been warned many times by his neighbors. (they didn’t actually belong to the shelter)
So, since I “broke the case” the detectives gave me a shiny badge of my own. *L* ok ok, it’s plastic – but it’s still shiny! ;) *giggles*

Josh> <<Is that a compliment? I would *never* own a suit like that.>> *L* yes, it was a compliment, you goober. I didn’t say that you would actually purchase a $2,500 suit, I said it fit you like one ;)
<< and let me tell you that its totally false>> *chuckles* yes, I know it’s false.. it just struck me funny for some reason. They have the space pens at NASA in the gift shop; I think they sold for around $20. (if I remember correctly) We used to spend a lot of time at NASA and was even treated to some back-scene type tours =) My cousin was a Col. in the Air Force at the time – he was in charge of the space shuttle landings (for the military) or something like that. He was kind enough to allow us (especially Michael) to see stuff that most civilians don’t have the opportunity to see – pretty awesome!
<<This is a chick thing, right?>> *LOL* not! At least in most cases ;)
Have you heard back from any of your interviews?

SJ> *sighs* I wanted to watch the documentary but unfortunately I forgot about it. I’m pissed at myself for missing it. =\ I was able to catch the ceremony that they did tonight with the lights and that brought tears to my eyes. Absolutely marvelous and precious.
Foghorn Leghorn… *L* I loved him! They sure don’t make ‘toons like that anymore =(
Woot! You go, blood thirsty friend of mine!
I heard something on TV tonight… this guy was doing a skit and said, “of course we assumed it was the arabs who did this! I didn’t look up into the sky as the Towers were being attacked and say, “OMG! The Swiss have attacked us!” *L*

Impfac> welcome to the CR : ) I’m sorry about the circumstances that brought you in, but now that you are here, I hope that you will hang around =)
<<so I sort of understand the resentment.>> I don’t feel resentment towards anyone who has more money than I do. Sure, it would always be nice to have more money – but it doesn’t bother me one way or the other if someone has more or less money than I do. It’s just not a big issue with me and I don’t loose any sleep either way.
I’m cheap too! *L* I don’t believe in spending six times more just because the article happens to have some small emblem or name on the butt or across the chest. It doesn’t impress me in the least to see someone wearing a Polo shirt or some gal carrying a Gucci bag. In fact, I think they are bit retarded for spending that kind of money on something like that. I buy what I like, not who has made it printed on it somewhere. I can get just as much enjoyment out of a $6 plate lunch as I can a dinner for $50. If there is a cheaper alternative, then that’s what I normally go for.
<<Thank god the majority of American’s-and Christians-don’t agree with him!>> Heh, have you kept up with the comments made in here concerning that? If so, you’ll see that exactly how a lot of people here feel – both Christians and non-Christians. Nuke ‘em.

Gside> Ooo thanks for the Dylan mp3 =) I love his work/songs!

Greg> congrats on becoming an admin! =D Is this in addition to or in place of?

LM> <<I've got a job interview at FS's work place tomorrow.>> *hugs* many good wishes on your job interview! What type of job are you interviewing for?

Isvi Xavier> *LOL* ohmygosh !! I had no idea that was you – until you nuzzled me with your wolfie nose ! Once I saw that, I knew!! Well, and the mother in law comment ;) Welcome :) As you will notice, once I said that I would not comment any further, I didn’t. *grins*
I also thought American Pie 2 sucked. It wasn’t anywhere near as funny as #1 – but I’ve rarely seen a sequel be as funny as the original…. Except the Nerd movies – Nerds, Revenge of the Nerds, etc. I haven’t seen the Damned movie yet – will have to wait for it to come out on video – same with Lord of the Rings.
Yeah, Josh is a Mac-freak ;) Maybe someday he’ll wise up, though. Hehe ;p

Spacebabie> <<The only crack Josh is on is butt crack.>> it’s a guy-thing ;)
Fried Snickers?? I’ve never heard of that before! You mean like deep frying the candy bar? *blinks* hmmm.. that’s unusual.

Where o’ where has Rayvn gone? Where o’ where could she beeeeee ? ;)

I watched the SNL John Belushi special tonight. He was truly a gifted comedian. SNL has never been the same since he died.

Zach had to go to the doctor today… he’s a sick baby boy :( Bad cold. He now weighs 8 lbs 12 oz! Porker ;) Not bad considering 4 weeks ago he weighed 7 lbs 3 oz.

Nighty night…
Jannie - [janmiller@mo-net.com]
Monday, March 11, 2002 11:26:00 PM
IP: 12.110.237.99

Okay, folks ... I know I ain't been in for a while, but I've been lurkin'. (Glad to know ya care, SJ. ;)

Anyway, I've kinda sequestered myself while working on a little project of mine. I have a little bit of it on a website at my name link ... check it out and let me know what ya think. ;)

LM: Uhmm ... are you sure you *really* want to work for FS' employer? Considering what he's told me about it makes it seem like a void where common sense gets sucked out of people's brains like so much tapioca pudding? ;)
Best of luck to ya. :)
Coyote the Bando - [gathering_motor_city_2004@hotmail.com]
Algonac, Michigan
Monday, March 11, 2002 11:12:57 PM
IP: 216.234.100.68

Jan: <The Russians used a pencil>
THAT is always funny!
BUT those pens ARE cool! Got a few of them at home

Imzadi: <Money is for toys. Not clothes>
Damn straight. Hell, for the price of that $2,500 suit, I can buy a wardrobe, new shoes, and a nice plasma cutter!
<Look around you. Do you trust those idiots to seize power over anything?>
No, but it would be nice to see them try!
PLUS, in the confusion, a REAL leader could rise up and take over EASILY
<Sometimes they write good books which are fun to read>
And, when that fails, as human shields.
<Is it OpenGL?>
Not sure. I think it is Mac only so far.

True, tougher environmental laws, but we wouldn't be at the brink of THERMONUCLEAR WAR!

It is a fruit!
<extra stimulation for both>
I guess... BUT are you willing to allow someone to shove a piece of metal through your shaft?
I guess it could be funny...
Girl: OW! Your penis stud is caught in my clit ring!
<That's it, the directors of all those things are getting castrated.>
They deserve it.

Jc: <all id like to know is where the hell is season 4 of gargoyles saga?>
Like Brooklyn, in the future.

Spacebabie: <Haven’t decided yet>
In THEORY, LM and I want to go this year as Egyptian gods.

Invsi Xavier: <Polish as in what?>
Sausage!

SJ: 
What a lovely poem!
My favorite cat is Choo-Choo

Gside: <Um... Someone has to write all the text around the paper comics, right?>
You mean there are things in the paper BESIDES comics?
<Chicken and pepperoni isn't bad, either>
Yummy...
Chicken, hot peppers, pepperoni, italian sausage, onions, garlic and salsa!
<That sounds quite tasty>
It does, dosn't it?
<The same reason textured "marital aids" are considered premium>
True...
I can't tell the difference.

Jim R: <my new USB 2-button mouse w/ scroll wheel>
Don't you just love those?
Fire Storm
Monday, March 11, 2002 10:46:36 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

I don't come here much, but when I do there always seems to be some trouble brewing, only now I can use my new USB 2-button mouse w/ scroll wheel to page down and look at what has been...

(goes back to lurking in the regular CR)
Jim R.
Monday, March 11, 2002 10:36:55 PM
IP: 65.164.19.149

LADY MYSTIC> Sure.

Real post... later
Greg Bishansky
Monday, March 11, 2002 10:29:31 PM
IP: 216.179.5.221

Well, it looks like my little vacation really isn't much of a vacation. I've been job searching and stressing over my housing situation. But the little break has given me time to get some things done. :) I've got a job interview at FS's work place tomorrow. Wish me good luck!

Greg Bishansky: Would you like your name (and an email address) added to the CR Admins page?

Wow! We've got *4* CR admins now!

Everyone: Thanks for all the compliments on the latest TGS CR Info update!

Hopefully, I'll have more to post later...

**Returns to working on her portfolio and revising her resume.**
Lady Mystic
Monday, March 11, 2002 10:21:02 PM
IP: 216.254.103.139

Imzadi> <<No, engineers get it too. Just during the day>>: Right, class.
<<Annoying, isn't it?>>: Expecially since I'm not getting any.

Fire Storm> <<Other than teachers, what good are humanities majors anyway?>>: Um... Someone has to write all the text around the paper comics, right?
<<Chicken and garlic cloves>>: Chicken and pepperoni isn't bad, either.
<>: That sounds quite tasty.
<<Hmm... what?>>: The same reason textured "marital aids" are considered premium.

Hudson> <<happy go lucky>>: Yatta! Yatta! Daigaku gohgaku...

Mooncat> <<Tsuki no Neko>>: The Thrusting Cat?

And the new mp3 is Stuck in the Middle With You by Dylan.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Monday, March 11, 2002 09:54:51 PM
IP: 198.151.130.133

oops, forgot *goes back into exile*

impfac> 8P
metaldemon
Monday, March 11, 2002 09:13:45 PM
IP: 24.219.165.75

Jeez, I come out of self-imposed exile to defend myself from my oh-so-true one.
Impfac> <<Thank god the majority of American’s-and Christians-don’t agree with him.>>

You should be thanking Mamon since almost all of modern Christianity is worshipping him. See ya, dearest one.
Metaldemon aka "impfac's nearest and dearest"
Monday, March 11, 2002 09:11:25 PM
IP: 24.219.165.75

I just spoke with Robby, and he's SOOOO pissed, he just delegated authorithy to avoid yelling at everyone." Thankfully I do enjoy yelling at everyone. That's right, I'm now an admin. Get used to it!

And now for my first action as admin.

EVERYONE> SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! This subject is dead. No one brings it up again!

IMPFAC> You want to post here? Fine. But if you have a problem with Mooncat, take it to email or keep it in the Adult CR where that bullshit started, but don't drag it in here. Understood?
Greg Bishansky - [Master of Your Pathetic Lives!!!]
Monday, March 11, 2002 09:05:11 PM
IP: 216.179.5.221

SJ> Ooops, forgot you. I agree totally about Sept 11th. The idea of restraint in dealing with these murderers is ridiculous. My nearest and dearest is always insisting that we should be compassionate and tolerant with these people, and that war on Afghanistan is wrong, yadda yadda (he is a Christian). I say, kill ‘em all. Thank god the majority of American’s-and Christians-don’t agree with him!

Being a Jew (despite what some say, rib-rib) I feel the same about Israel and the Arabs; how can Israel be so strongly condemned for attempting to deal with terrorists (in an admirably restrained fashion, I might add) when they are attacked viciously in precisely the same manner constantly? I feel the same way I did on Sept 11th every time I hear about the latest suicide bombing against innocent Jewish civilians, except I have the indignity of watching the media trash the innocent victims and promoting their murderers, while never showing the actual victims of terror.

These terrorists demand they hand over the capital as the price for peace-that is like handing Washington DC over to Bin Laden for a promise that he won’t slaughter any more Americans.

Ridiculous. Insane. Evil.

Sept. 11th is one of those rare things that makes me cry, too. It still gives me chills. Whenever I see someone crying on TV about lost loveones, it still makes my eyes water. It is the first event in my life that I will never forget where I was when I heard the news, or how it made me feel.
IMPFAC
Monday, March 11, 2002 08:55:32 PM
IP: 169.226.230.45

MC> Because I am NOT JOSH!! But I guess you figured that out later, after you posted.

I am IMPFAC, unfortunately SHARING that first *name* with Josh (I hate that name...). How about looking at the IP before making such an accusation next time, hmmm?

It is pretty clear to me from your posts that you became uppity and rude toward Jan first. I think anyone would respond in kind to such comments, even if your insults weren’t DIRECT. I know I didn’t like it much either.

As for your further personal insults against me, I’ll just let them slide, since I know you refuse to debate my anymore anyway (oh yeah, taking the moral high ground, right? ;-) Too bad, too, since you are so damn good at it, when you don’t get mired in flames and insults.
Imperial Fascist, the Super Jewish Nazi Boy Josh
Monday, March 11, 2002 08:44:21 PM
IP: 169.226.230.45

IX9-- whoops, almost forgot you. Grammer mostly, some spelling. I am horrible with setence fragments myself, but if you want feedback I'm always happy to comment on fan fics. I'll try taking notes next time I go through it if you want.

Ja ne
Tsuki no Neko
Mooncat
Mooncat
Monday, March 11, 2002 07:48:31 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

SJ -- Yes, I could come back with a better retort, but I didn't think you were worth my best. Plus I'm trying to keep my reply "flame lite" in respect for Shinigami.

Josh/Imzadi -- sweetie, I never said I thought Impfac was *you* -- In case you didn't know, his name is Josh too. I just thought it was pretty amusing coincidence wise and asked why he didn't post under that name here. You give a slightly better argument and use actual facts to support your point of view when we get in our little opinion tussles. Impfac... well he likes to use misinformation repetively as a strategy. I just think it's cute you both are named Josh.

Other comments...

The pork chops came out lovely. Found out the new grocery I tried out today has sushi, and the sweet Japanese ladies doing it would make it to order if asked. 4 pieces of Tako (Octapus) for only $4.80, woo hoo!!! Yeah, I'll be crass and actually give the price. -- Which I split with my friend as an appetizer. The zucchini was great, and the brussel sprouts. Which since I had the Wasabi and Pickled ginger on hand, tried with the veggies and it was pretty neat.

Also found out my friend has the recipe for the sweet egg omellete that goes on sushi. Which is great because I love learning anything sushi related. One of my other friends knows how to make vinegar rice, so I only need to get the sea weed wraps and rolling mat, and I can make my own. Still looking for a place that has sashimi grade fish.

Well, plan to spend the rest of the evening on art and fan fiction. No Angel tonight, which is actually a relief. It's too distracting.

ciao
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, March 11, 2002 07:41:46 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Don’t know if the rest of you caught the 9-11 documentary last night, but I watched it. I have to be honest, too….normally I’m one of those macho-type guys who simply refuses to cry at anything. I just don’t let myself get emotional about things, but last night, watching that, I had some real creepers in my eyes. If you saw the doc, you can probably sympathize. The senseless death and destruction, the footage of the plane plowing into the towers, the struggles of the firefighters to get into the building. The footage of the priest, doing what he could for the fallen, only minutes before HE joined the ranks of the deceased. The mass of ash and debris that made the entire area look like a war zone (and it wasn’t far from the truth). The horrifying, sickening sound of human bodies hitting the ground with terminal velocity. Most of our generation, thankfully, has not had to witness the horror of war up close and personal, but this is pretty much it. It was an intense documentary, but a very important one.

Now, some people were happy that they edited out certain footage (mainly of the grislier parts, like the people jumping to their deaths). At the time of the disaster, I was glad that they weren’t showing much of that….but I’ve changed. I think they SHOULD stick that in there. Show the worst. Show the people jumping to their deaths, show the battered & burnt bodies being dragged out of the rubble. It’s important, lest we forget what happens when we cease to remain vigilant.

The other thing the special did was make me angry. Unbelievably angry. It pisses me off that we have so many, and pardon if this is referring to YOU, goddamn bleeding-heart liberals in the country who want restraint. There can be no restraint here. ANIMALS, filthy disgusting beasts that walk on their hind legs and pretend to be men, flew planes into our buildings and killed thousands of INNOCENT people. I don’t give a damn about them. I don’t give a damn about the monkeys down in their cages in Cuba – line them up and slit their throats, then dance on the corpses. I want us to go over to the Middle East – just about EVERY country over there, and just wipe out everything. I want our brutality to be so excessive that we’re embarrassed by our actions years later. Restraint, screw that. We got people over here going, “Oh, don’t invade Iraq!” Screw you.

Roughly 85 percent of essentially the ENTIRE Middle East not only hates us, but feels that 9-11 was NOT the work of Arab terrorists. In fact, they believe that it was really the result of Americans or – and this one makes me really laugh – Zionists. THIS is the reality that we’re dealing with. Diplomacy will not work on animals. The sooner all of them are dead, the happier we’ll be. And believe me – there will be a lot of uproar from the rest of the world, our so-called allies, but secretly they will be THANKING us, because they know that these animals will be more than happy to bomb their countries as well.

I just wish we could be more like Israel. You bomb Israel, what happens? The next day, they show up on your doorstep with tanks and soldiers. They don’t f!ck around, and I respect them for it. Anyone see what they did to the bomber they caught over the weekend? They didn’t lock him up. There were no bleeding heart idiots around to whine about he wasn’t being treated well enough in captivity. They took the bastard and they blew half his f!cking head off. Goddamn, we should be taking lessons from them.

Sorry, just felt that it was relevant to bring this up again, since it’s the 6 month anniversary and all.

BTW….anyone see the Star Wars 2 trailer? All I can say is – nice to see Christopher Lee play a dark Jedi. Other than that, I ain’t impressed.

Mooncat: <<Sevarius Jr -- Love you too. Anyone whose idea of great wit is Foghorn Leghorn is *surely* someone whose favor I crave.>> Please tell me you can deliver a better come back than that.
BTW, you really know NOTHING about Josh. I don’t claim to be an expert on him (even though we’re, you know, the same person, that old gag), but I do know he has enough balls to post messages using his own name.

I never understand misogyny until now.

Josh: Well, I heard that Mooncat has family members with deductive reasoning, and has dated people with deductive reasoning, so she knows a bit about using those skills.

I leave you with the lyrics of Stephen Lynch, a poet and true bard of our age.

“When the game of life makes you
feel like quitting,
It helps a lot if you
Kill a kitten!

Mark my words,
Cause from where I’m sittin’,
You can’t go wrong
If you kill a kitten!

There’s no crime
That you’ll be committing.
I know the law you can
Kill a kitten!

And if you need yarn
For that scarf you’re knitting,
You’ll get plenty when you
Kill a kitten!

Feed it turpentine….
Or break it’s spine.
Crush it with your shoe…
As long as you
Kill a kitten!
---Stephen Lynch, “The Kitten Song”

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Monday, March 11, 2002 06:23:38 PM
IP: 207.172.11.147

MC> Polish as in what? Grammarwise or storywise what? I need some more info.
Invsi Xavier - [tjarred@hotmail.com]
The city, of, eternal sin
Monday, March 11, 2002 05:51:13 PM
IP: 24.189.100.203

I love the fair. I enjoyed the rides. I have a new favorite besides the swings and the waterlog. The hanglider ride. Saw a lot of animals also. Goats, sheep, pigs, cows, horses, ponies, tortoises, a python, emu, wallaby, llama, camel, zebra, elephants, tigers, and bears. The tigers were adorable. There were different colors and the way they curled up with each other reminded me of my cats.

Dad won me a stuffed bear.

Food, Had a fried Snickers, a chicken Gyro and of course a funnel cake. Came home with blister and rosy cheeks

My brother bought a new game: Sonic adventure 2 battle for Game cube. Sonic on a Nintendo system. It just doesn’t seem right, like buying Windows software for a Mac

Josh<<<You SO just made yourself ineligible.>>>Hey I flirt with whoever I want to flirt with.

Firestorm<<<With or without wings and a tail?>>>Haven’t decided yet.

Mara<<<Dude, lay off the crack, that was Rev. Attila, responibility of GB and not me>>>The only crack Josh is on is butt crack.

Hudson>>>Dude you just made a big booboo
Spacebabie
Orlando, Fl, U.S.A
Monday, March 11, 2002 05:23:46 PM
IP: 67.25.53.181

Mooncat: I have never once, in all of my time here, posted an insult under a fake name. Or anything else under a fake name. When I'm insulting you, EVERYONE will know it. I don't use pseudonyms because I think they're the mark of a wuss.

For the record, my roommate doesn't drink, and I don't feel like an idiot when I spend $6 on a meal, either.

You can take your deductive skills and figure out that you should probably go back to school so you can learn deductive skills.
josh
Monday, March 11, 2002 05:11:31 PM
IP: 64.161.25.174

*Warpmind strides in, looking fairly... disheveled.*
Whew, been too long outta the CR... Damn troubles. Oh, well.

Hot Damn... A whole week behind? Can't be right... But it is. *Sigh*

Thomas: A Viking Berserker like Conan the Librarian? The concept doth have a certain appeal... But make'em *stones* with runes rather than books. Vastly better for projectiles. "I killed him with the Power Rune Die." "You killed him by tropping a rock on his head." "Yeah. See? The Rune worked." };)

Aaron: Good to see a post from ya, dude... And I know you're not a hobby-satanist. I have as much contempt for those amateurs as you do, friend. Now, the PROS, however... };)

Christine: As I said, I'll take the Orc/Human/Elf genetic combo possibilities... on Faith. ;)

Well, that actually concludes my catching-up... Not much to respond to, that I actually feel up to responding to... And besides, I have Elsewhere Things to attend... Like programming... Oh, well.

Oh, hey, and Mooncat? Isn't there something you're supposed to send me soon? };)

*Fades*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, March 11, 2002 04:53:55 PM
IP: 193.217.200.55

Impfac - Actually, I didn't "insult" Jan until she started in on me. I only pointed out that being the secretary of Sheriff, no disrespect to the job, does not equate being an expert in all areas of law, especially other states. She took that as a slam and started in on my marital status and choice of pets. *shrug* Whatever.

But I wonder why you just don't post under your usual name, Josh?

IX9 -- Checked out your latest story. Needs a little polishing, but the plot is interesting.

Various comments -- hmm... hanging out with one of my artist friends today. She's working on some illustrations for "Fruits Basket" which are looking really nice *^_^* -- And I'm wondering if I can get in some rough sketches for New Legends before starting supper.

Tonight is grilled pork chops, zucchini and brussle sprouts. So it's a trip to the grocery for meat and veggies, then a stop by the vet for antibiotics for my 6week old kittens. They got the kitten sniffles, poor wee things.

I've renamed Demona to Delilah. She just didn't feel like a Demona. So Harley is now Talia (her future owner has already chosen Talia for her name) and Demona is now Delilah (until her new owner chooses a name) and my little Ares is still... Ares. Him my baby. I'm seriously thinking of keeping him as a replacement for Ra who was my golden spotted leopard boy. But I already have Ramses who is more of a rusty red brown spotted, so it's probably better to place Ares no matter how adorable he is.

I love how when I go in to play with them, Talia and Delilah make a mad dash for my lap, and play tumble over my legs, but Ares climbs straight up (owtch) and tries burrow into my hair. He's getting a little large for a barrette now. I'll have to train him not to climb people like trees.

Well, better get going to get groceries. I did five laps in the park instead of my usual four, and it's left me starved.
later
Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Monday, March 11, 2002 04:48:31 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Jan and MC> LOL, I just love seeing everyone getting along so well!

Jan> Did you enjoy your slug fest with the kiddy? Isn’t she just GREAT to argue with? I know I loved ‘debating’ (being insulted by) her ;-) So don’t worry about it. We just rub her the wrong way, and always will. I love how she insults you, then accuses you of being the one in the wrong, hehe.

My suitemate has spent $1500 on alcohol alone over the last semester and a half! And he drives an Audi, always has the nicest clothes, etc etc., so I sort of understand the resentment.

I, on the other hand, feel like an idiot if I spend more than $6 for a meal or buy expensive clothes or shoes. I’m extremely cheap. Even though my parents *were* ‘wealthy,’ they never wasted money, and I‘ve picked up that habit strongly. I’m as proud of my cheapness as some are of their wastefulness.

IMPFAC
Monday, March 11, 2002 04:01:41 PM
IP: 169.226.230.45

test
Kyryn
Denton, TX
Monday, March 11, 2002 03:26:49 PM
IP: 216.35.46.129

all id like to know is where the hell is season 4 of gargoyles saga?
jc
ierlandMonday, March 11, 2002 03:04:53 PM
IP: 62.254.105.153

*Walks in and looks at the flames*Ohhh,.....Fire...*crimson red eyes reflect in the flames*

God does this week so suck for me movie wise. First off, that god-awful flick Queen of the Damned. Now it's The One and American Pie 2 the uncut edition.

That’s it I'm done renting movies and I'll check out what the critics think of it on rottentomatoes.com first before viewing it since this is a pain in my ass. I just hope that Resident Evil and Blade 2 are worth my time. We will see.

And now on to responses:

Thomas> It is fun to put an arm and pull it out before it gets any scratches:)

Yeah, but others don't scratch, others just pull your arm clean off. ;)

Nassau County. I have family around there and maybe some in Sufolk too. Do you know any Worthingtons?

Well, I am in Suffolk Cotton and no I haven't heard of any Worthingtons there. Sorry Guy.

I have indeed. How many flavors do they have?

Hmm, I think they have more than 10 types of flavors of cake I have to check back with them to get an actual number.

But, I have to agree with you, but I had that Bailey, Cheesecake combo when I was celebrating My Angel of the Night’s 22nd>> As in the AotN who used to post here?

Um, Not really the Angel of the Night I’m talking about is the one who joined up with me in the ERS Universe a couple of years ago. She is the proclaimed Gargoyles Porn Queen, and is one of the founding queens of Erotica fic-writers. The other two being Madame Destine and Mooncat. (Hey, don't look at me that way thisis what a fan told me in a chat room.)

Josh>
Invsi: <<blinks* What for?>>: Argh never mind.

Hey listen all right I'm sorry is I bummed you out but you really didn’t give me enough information to come up with a post. If you own a Mac then we can talk shop. If you don't and you have problems we can bitch back and forth via email.

<<My, only problem is that when it comes to writing fiction or posting I have a nasty habit of not checking my work before posting it>>: Well that's kind of important. You also need to check out your comma placement. Believe it or not, you don't need to put a comma in your writing every time YOU take a breath 8-)

Alright I got it but I am on vacation right now as soon as I get back onto the fic writing I will take that into the advisement so let's drop the subject and talk like sub-normal humanoids?;)

And now for actual posts...Yay!

Stereotyping Marriage> Basically, I hate that stereotype I have a friend who has been dating the same girl for three years now but the only thing he hears from people who are already married is this:

'So, when are you and so-and-so getting married?'

He tells me that he totally hates this. Did I forget to mention that he is 26 and his girl is 28?

What I am trying to say that if you like being single then stay single do not let anyone contradict when you should get married by statistics age and all of that bull. You have to remember is that it is you taking the big leap not them.

I hope that clears something up. ;-/

Flaunting your money>

Hmm, I don't like it either when people brag about how much they spend on food or other material items. I still don't understand why people do it to others you're gonna seem like some snobbish and uptight little prick who likes to flash there wealth in front of those who are poor.

Either that or you're someone who is in dire need of attention by yelling to the world 'Hey, I spent X-amount of dollars on such and such so
WORSHIP ME SINCE I MAKE MORE THAN YOU!

Which brings me to the old adage: 'A fool and their money is soon parted.'

And now to respond to a bunch of stuff that I read this week:

Now some actual posts:

Jan> *bounds in and wolfy nuzzles his virtual
Mother-in-law*

Now, Now, Jan remember to count to 10 now and just let this Mooncat Vs. You thing lie. It isn't worth the time or your effort to argue against those who don't listen. ;) So come on back to your corner and save your motherly advice for others. *whines* Like me! ;)

Zach's listening to the police scanner> Oh, sweet that must be fun for the little tyke. Probably he'll want to be a policeman when he grows up.

Sperm Donor> Hmm, A custody battle huh. Well, good luck on your side girl I'm rooting for you and give my love to Ana.

(P.S It is me Sean from Mini.)

SJ> "That girl's about as sharp as a bag of wet mice."
Hee-hee, So true. S.J,. ^_^

Um, is that it? *Sighs* Phew, now that is over I'm going to go off and sleep Overnight was a real bitch. Laaaaaaattttttteeeee....

Sugu raku ni shite yaru. (I will soon end your pain) IX9

Invsi Xavier - [tjarred@hotmail.com]
The city, of , eternal sin
Monday, March 11, 2002 10:07:51 AM
IP: 24.189.100.203

And of course, i typo my name, can you tell i'v been at it all night? ;) *poof*
Hudson - [Your happy go lucky (Get off my shoes!) sysadmin.]
Monday, March 11, 2002 09:13:18 AM
IP: 65.210.92.18

OOoo, admin graphic.Preeety..

Okay, so I'm not a -TGS- Admin, but its close enough :)

****HEADS UP TO ALL TGS/FANFIC/FANDOM TYPES****

We are out of the woods! The new server is almost up to snuff with all the new domains, websites are getitng back in order, and the basics are functioning once again!

Some of you might notice an odd glitch or two as DNS propogates and other things kick into effect, sorry, we cant help that.As I'm sure some of you late-night-types might have seen as DNS started pointing randomly to the wrong servers all night :) Maybe to check tgs, and find yourself at a webmail-promt, or something..heh..ahem.

Anyways!

As i said, things are getting back into shape.GFW (www.gargoyles-fans.org) is back on its feet, as is fanfic.gargoyles-fans.org, and of course, everything else to go with it. And,obviously, TGS is back online again. :)

There shouldnt be *any* more downtime for a long, long time.. :)

Anybody who has questions pertaining to any of this, can email me at hudson@ketnar.org or contact me via ICQ, 2047487.

PS: Beth, all those things you requested are beig setup as i type this, so expect an email from me later today when its all done.. :)

Thats all! have a good one people!
Hudsaon - [Your happy go lucky (Get off my shoes!) sysadmin.]
Monday, March 11, 2002 09:12:07 AM
IP: 65.210.92.18

Spent today studying and downloading things. I've been in a real \/\/4|23Z frenzy the last couple weeks, downloading everything and its mother. Like I'll ever use, uh, three windows disk images for VPC. Oh well, to quote my favorite villian: "Reason not the need. I wanted it, so I took it."

I'm going to be a good geek and not flame back. Today.

Christine: <<my life is lacking a certain zest, here, methinks>>: I've noticed that lately, my life has been kind of routine/uninteresting as well. What I wouldn't give for some excitement. Hmmm...

Fire Storm: <>: Look around you. Do you trust those idiots to seize power over anything? <<what good are humanities majors anyway>>: Sometimes they write good books which are fun to read. <<It's got potential>>: Is it OpenGL? <<GORE would have been better>>: I dunno about THAT. <<Fru17?>>: I resent that remark. <<what?>>: extra stimulation for both. <<Survivor is now a part of American culture>>: That's it, the directors of all those things are getting castrated.

Jan: <<You are messing with my fantasies again!>>: Someone is gonna be jealous. <<you wear the "spoiled rich brat" like $2,500 suit>>: What exactly does that mean? Is that a compliment? I would *never* own a suit like that. I'd just as soon put that money away for retirement, or buy a cinema display or something. Money is for toys. Not clothes. <<only to give an indication of how much 2 guys are eating each month>>: Yup, we're pigs. More junk food than pleasure island. <<You don't discuss what it's like to live in a small rathole home and barely scraping to get by each month because you haven't experienced that>>: Thank god. I count myself very lucky. <<who worked hard for what they have>>: And still do. <>: Very much so. <<not until I'm cold dead.. and that's if there's any left over>>: My dad always says that he plans to die broke. I tell him that's fine as long as he uses it to pay for his old age home ;-) <<NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 Billion to develop a pen>>: Okay, you obviously got this out of an email, and let me tell you that its totally false. If it had really cost that much to develop, the pen would not be as cheap as they are. It also didn't take that long to develop. Every time I hear that joke, the time gets longer and the development costs get larger ;-) BTW, space pens ROCK. <<The Russians used a pencil>>: This option was actually considered and dismissed. Pens reduce the possibility of tampering with data. <<you don't even make legitimate arguments>>: This is a chick thing, right?

Sevarius Jr: <<That girl's about as sharp as a bag of wet mice>>: LOL. This is a chick thing too, I assure you.

Okay the room was dead so there's not much else to respond to. G'nite.

When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*".
- Linus Torvalds

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, March 11, 2002 03:10:50 AM
IP: 64.161.25.51

::bows respect to Shinigami::

What you say is true, Shinigami-sama. I'll do my part *^_^*

Well, various comments for today, last before I catch some early nap time.

Made a lovely curry today, and had friends over whom I've not seen in ages. Talked and shared updates on people we know and things we've done. Found out that one of my best girlfriends who moved to OKC some years ago will be returning to local stomping grounds. Woo hoo!!! Does a happy kitty dance!

They showed me a neat website where the guy who plays Legolas and the guy who play Frodo "make out" for a photo spread. *^_^* Wow, the neat things you can find on foriegn web pages!

I showed them all the neat Gargoyles fan art that the Art Chicks have on line, and they were suitably thrilled by the funny, the poignent, and the out right gorgeous art work that the fandom produces.

Watched some Justice League, and chilled some more, speaking of this and that...

Now I can finally collapse and get a little sleep beyond the 2 hours I picked up last night, when I did a complete super cleaning of the kitchen and living room, preparing for my special guests. I only get to see two of them once in a blue moon, so I wanted things spiff for their visit. Their kiddo has simply shot up like a weed. She must have doubled her hieght since I saw her only months ago. wow.

hooo.... now the fatigue sets in.

Later
MC
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Sunday, March 10, 2002 10:13:46 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Quit it. This is looking like a chat room again..

So. Quit it.

Shinigami
Sunday, March 10, 2002 09:57:06 PM
IP: 172.175.184.122

Sevarius Jr -- Love you too. Anyone whose idea of great wit is Foghorn Leghorn is *surely* someone whose favor I crave.

>^,,^<
Mooncat

Mooncat
Sunday, March 10, 2002 09:18:16 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

That great philosopher of our time, Foghorn Leghorn, had many pearls of wisdome to share, but I think he was talking about our dear Mooncat when he said:

"That girl's about as sharp as a bag of wet mice."

Nietzsche had NOTHING on him.
Sevarius "Shh!!! It's annoying bitch season!" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Sunday, March 10, 2002 08:13:15 PM
IP: 66.44.64.167

Jan -- Were you talking to me? Seemed more like preaching and insulting than an actual attempt at conversation. Didn't see anything resembling any sincere dialogue on your part, so forgive me if I might have missed some well disguised effort at simply being civil on your part.

Let's see, you comment to Josh about his comment to me, but it has *nothing* to do with me. But oddly, this oh so private message is on a public comment room. One assumes so everyone can see it and respond.

Did you know there is this thing called e-mail that can let you talk to Josh privately, and no one will make any comments on your comments then?

*miming a brick wall*
Mooncat >^,,^<

Mooncat
Sunday, March 10, 2002 05:32:12 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

My apologies for the additional post and I will not be responding anymore after this.

Mooncat> you were referring to the post that I made to Josh... as in I was speaking to him, not you - but you choice to make a comment concerning it.
See what I mean? You are so hell bent in proving yourself right that you don't even make legitimate arguments. You didn't have to say my name or make reference to me directly - you commented on MY post TO Josh quickly after I posted it. d'uh.
I will not respond to anything else that you have to say to me. You're like talking to a brick wall.
Jan
Sunday, March 10, 2002 05:00:06 PM
IP: 12.110.237.87

Jan -- And did I mention you in my previous post? Don't remember your name anywhere in it. Oh, how could I put this so you might "get it" -- "I wasn't talking to you nor did I make any references to you or about you..."

Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Sunday, March 10, 2002 04:37:03 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

*rolls eyes* for cripe's sake just please give it up, mooncat. I wasn't talking to you nor did I make any references to you or about you. You don't get *it* nor will you probably ever get *it* because you are so hell bent on trying to prove yourself correct and therefore not understanding what is being said.
Jan
Sunday, March 10, 2002 04:23:16 PM
IP: 12.110.237.87

Idly wonders why it's okay to talk about one's "rich" lifestyle if mummy and daddy give it to you, but "bragging" if it's a lifestyle you've achieved by your own scrimping and saving and hard, hard work... Ah well, to each their own.

I'm personally grateful for my father's ability to go from nothing to comfortable middle class. No coke habit and Prada for me at age 12 though, *^_~* -- just my 5 bucks a week allowance which I carefully divided between used books and the 25 cent per comic (or 5 for a dollar) bins at the local hole in the wall comic store. Ah... those long ago days of youth when a Saturday afternoon was the scent of old paper, and the musty dark canyons of small bookstores and comic crypts...

Hope the price mention of the quarter bin comics doesn't offend anyone. I know some people get their knickers in a knot if I breath a mention of a price tag.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Sunday, March 10, 2002 04:05:49 PM
IP: 65.30.27.68

Josh and DPH> <<conflict of interest>> Not really - at least not in this circumstance. The sperm donor has not filed any type of petition to have any custody of Zach or to dispute the documents he was presented with, so it's not a matter of a custody battle where the judge has to decide between the two parties involved. By the judge knowing the family, it will only make him feel more comfortable about the ruling that he will be making. Even if he didn't know us, he would still make the same ruling - in Anna's favor.
The mother has filed for full custody, the father has not protested nor will he appear in court - pretty cut and dry case *nods*
In this small town it's difficult for the judges to not know most of the people that come before them. They just have to make sure that they stick to the letter of the law and not give any appearance of favortism.

Shadowrider> <<Ah...a pity I am already engaged...<sighs>...;) >> NNnOoO! You are messing with my fantasies again!! Don't make me face reality! *whimpers* ;p
I'll send you a new email - the other one is old news now. :)

Josh> Don't sweat it - you wear the "spoiled rich brat" like $2,500 suit :) There is a significant difference in the way information is presented and received. As for the money order that was lost in the mail for me, you're right.. it wasn't "thousands of dollars", it was $1,050 and it was for tution and I didn't have the attitude, "easy come, easy go". You talking of how much you've paid for groceries was only to give an indication of how much 2 guys are eating each month - it was not interpeted as you bragging on how much money you've spent, but to the volume of food ya'll consume. You were raised in a priviledged area by an upper income family - so of course, you're experiences and what you are accustom to owning/having is going to be higher than a lot of people. That is all a part of the who you are. You don't discuss what it's like to live in a small rathole home and barely scraping to get by each month because you haven't experienced that. It's just something that you cannot personally relate to. Not a bad thing at all *shakes head* So, you are not attempting to impress anyone when you talk of material items - it's just part of your normal lifestyle. It's a lifestyle that was given to you by your parents - who worked hard for what they have. I know that you are appreciative of what they have done for you and what they have given you. When the time comes, my children will benefit from my years of investment and savings. Of course, not until I'm cold dead.. and that's if there's any left over ;)

Christine> ack! I didn't know that Survivor was going to be on Wednesday night this week! Thanks for the info :)

Our preacher at church is flying to Jamaica tomorrow to preach a revival. He invited church members to go with him... I sure would have liked going! I think it would have been a lot of fun and very interesting. However, I haven't been at my job long enough to feel right about asking for a week off. =\ They were able to get some fabulous prices for the plane tickets and housing is furnished free of charge - including meals. Sweet deal, but I just don't have the time off to do it. =(

When NASA first started sending up astronauts, they quickly discovered that ballpoint pens would not work in zero gravity.

To combat the problem, NASA scientists spent a decade
and $12 Billion to develop a pen that writes in zero
gravity, upside down, underwater, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to 300C.

The Russians used a pencil.

*chuckles* gotta' love 'em! :)

Jan
Sunday, March 10, 2002 03:36:57 PM
IP: 12.110.237.87

hGreen Baron: <Whcih ones. I prefer less destructive attacks>
Well, my link has some more details, but...
Libya, Syria, China, Russia, Iran, Iraq and North Korea
(I guess I mis-guessed earlier)
<It si tiem for Powell to usurp rulership>
Hell, even *I* would be for that! I say the citizens rebel!
<Rest assured, it is cheaper than Mayflower especially considering a cost/quality ratio.>
Oh, like that's hard!
$120/1 (quality rating)

Kaioto: <Re: Nukes. Just 8? Wow. We need to elect someone with a spine. If you're going to do something, do it the whole way, man!>
When it comes to nukes, I tend to agree.
Well, look at the bright (flash) side: If we even launch 1 at someone, it would turn into global thermonuclear war within a matter of an hour!

Gside: <But she hasn't been around in a good while>
True, but I bet Becca sneaks into here every so often too.
<Something humanities majors get occaisonally, I hear>
Other than teachers, what good are humanities majors anyway?
<You'd better believe it. The Salami and cheddar, especially>
Chicken and garlic cloves. Hmm...
You know... I think I will try making a grilled steak pizza soon.

Vashkoda: <Damn those lazy bums who run GNC! They're supposed to be on top of everything!>
Yeah, I know! That site is supposed to have BREAKING news and it occasionally takes an entire *DAY* to get news up on it! :p
<Changing the subject, what do you guys think of that 3D Gargoyles game that fan is making?>
It's got potential. IF some of the wording on the site was changed, it could even be legal.

Imzadi: 
Hell, GORE would have been better!
If Bush is gone, that leaves Cheney... eek!
<From 1337 |\/|4[ \/\/4|23Z!!!>
$uX0r! D47'$ W4r3Z 4 D4 Fru17?

A little too often?
<No, a girl once explained to me the use of such things>
Hmm... what?
<Well now I've said that for years>
But that still dosn't keep you from wanting one!

Christine: <actually, Survivor's on CBS>
Well, for better or worse, Survivor is now a part of American culture, so it isn't THAT surprising. I wonder how much they had to pay in royalties...
Fire Storm
Sunday, March 10, 2002 02:05:35 PM
IP: 208.143.21.10

19th -- sigh.
silvadel
Sunday, March 10, 2002 01:11:26 PM
IP: 208.59.247.8

Bad idea to go ahead and have the game when the GM and half the players are sick. Everybody on meds, everybody coughing and sneezing and being generally wretched, and of course cranky to the point that we came very close to seeing one PC knife another in the dark (okay, I know it happens in some games all the time, but it's never actually happened in one of mine). Ah, well, we're skipping next weekend so we can go see Ice Age and bug-bomb the house (my life is lacking a certain zest, here, methinks <g>).

Fire Storm > actually, Survivor's on CBS, which is why I was so impressed they mentioned it and said good things on an NBC show. Fear Factor, though, is NBC. And tomorrow night, we can see more second-rate celebs like Alan Thicke be sunk neck-deep in a tank full of maggots or whatever the grossout du jour is ; )

Survivor > it's on Wednesday this week (why? anybody know?) so don't forget to set those VCRs!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, March 10, 2002 10:34:41 AM
IP: 64.24.187.48

Hi people, just a quick post since I have no time...

Jan:> <> Ack! No! Last one I got from you was in 17 of Feb...unluckily, my email server is not reliable recently, so probably your email was lost. May you resend it?
<<Hey! we agreed on something!! yippee! Now you can properly propose to me *nods* ;) >> Ah...a pity I am already engaged...<sighs>...;)

More post later

Shadowrider - [shadowrider@katamail.com]
Sunday, March 10, 2002 08:24:29 AM
IP: 213.255.22.206

Josh -- Once upon a time Josh said "Yeah, but apparently Niamh and her roommate spend $200 a month on food. We spend about 3-4 times that"

*moonkitty goes to get her tape measure to see if Josh does indeed have a "larger circumference than a ballistic missile submarine."

Josh quotes for that single week...:

"So for just two classes, my book bill totalled nearly $400."

"my roommate picked up his new DSC-P5 digital camera. It was about $600, and its almost as sweet as my digital ELPH, but not quite"

"Despite your thoughts, I'm not THAT rich. I wish I had that much money. Hell, I wish I had as much money as you seem to think I do."

"I'd never in a million years, despite growing up with kids who could afford coke habits when they were 12 and still
wear Prada, expect this to happen."

*moonkitty yawns*

I think I'll go look through the pretty cels that I starved to buy, then play with my very loving cats on my formica floor, and contemplate just *who* it is that tries to show off how well off they are.

*^_~*
Mooncat

Mooncat
Sunday, March 10, 2002 05:21:51 AM
IP: 65.30.27.68

More work today. This whole work thing is getting old. Time for a break. A spring break, to be precise.

Got more nifty programs today. I'm getting rather good at being a leech.

replies

Patrick: <<"Croc Hunter" Steve Irwin>>: I'm reminded of a certain south park ep...

Mooncat: <<most of them were text no picture, so what's your gripe? One huge glop of text of lots of little bite sized pieces, they all use up the same amount of bandwidth. Me thinks someone nit picks>>: As I recall, you were the one a few weeks ago asking what was appropriate for posting frequency. <<People here talk all the time about the cost of things, including Jan and you>>: There's a difference between occasionally mentioning the price of things (Jan bitching that she lost over a grand on missing tuition checks is one of the ONLY times I've heard her talk about the actual cost of something) and dropping lines like "I spent blah on XYZ" every few days. <<Someone gets a nice cel, they mention it here>>: Usually, its fine to just say "I got this SWEET Garg Cel with the money my parents gave me for my birthday" or something. Rubbing in how much it costs is irrelevant and overkill. <<maybe we shouldn't talk about the nice things we get since it offends you?>>: I didn't say it offends me, it just sounds really stupid. In general, I'm against people sounding stupid. <<hundreds wasn't it?) on food each week>>: It would be quite amazing if I spent that much on food each week. First of all, I'd have a larger circumference than a ballistic missile submarine.

Siryn: <<you school finds SOME way to squeeze money extra from you>>: So true. Look out for that health insurance! <>: Like the little guy in "Man With The Golden Gun"?

Jan: <<You mean it's not still that? *blinks* whoa.. it's been a while since I've bothered to look at their emblem>>: Its the same shape, but now its just one color, depending on the machine or site its displayed on. Usually gray or silver or white. <<Our school was/is still using the Apple IIE computers>>: And they're still running, aren't they? Its really quite amazing that as crappy as those machines are, they still work 15 years later. <<Ohmygosh! I have Hippie cats!>>: You must now be thrown out of the republican club. <<we can all sit around and talk of our wealth and how to screw the less fortunate out of their money>>: WOOHOO! <>: Isn't that a conflict of interest? <<I've noticed that Zach likes listening to the police scanner>>: Maybe it'll keep him out of trouble ;-)

Brooklyn: Never

Shadowrider: <<this semester I am going to get seven courses>>: ACK!! No thank you! <<It allows a lot of...'variations'...and she has a *very* vivid fantasy for that>>: Lucky you. <>: Maybe she's just been with too many guys.

Fire Storm: <>: I think I agree. <<where did you get a copy of sendmail>>: From 1337 |\/|4[ \/\/4|23Z!!! <<It was either him or me>>: I say this often. <<Or penis studs>>: No, a girl once explained to me the use of such things. <<She's a poo-poo head!>>: Well now I've said that for years.

Spike: <<they seem to be yelling at the same kids>>: LOL! <<Both don't want any more kids>>: So true. <<On the first date, they just tell each other lies, and that usually gets them interested enough to go for a second date>>: Smart kid. <<I'm never going to have sex with my wife. I don't want to be all grossed out>>: LOL! <<Boys need someone to clean up after them>>: That's what maids are for! <<Tell your wife that she looks pretty even if she looks like a truck>>: That's true for any relationship.

Green Baron: <<the Josh character would raise a bunch of kids only by kissing the girl a lot>>: I'll kill you. <<SJ and Josh disagreeing? I never thught I'd see the day>>: What do you expect? He's a right wing republican and I'm a bit more moderate 8-) <>: Historic? The entire city is less than 100 years old. <<If I recall, the mean is the average of all scores, while the median is the score right in the middle>>: Yes that's true, however 50 is the median of that group. In school when it comes to curves, the median/mean tell you little by itself. You need to know the standard deviation to really guess where your grade is. Of course, that depends on where the prof decides the mean grade is. <<I'm not a big fan of the system persoanlly, but I see its long term advantage>>: Its not a "fan" issue. Its the best way to do it.

Lexy: <<Clothes..ya..they're..>>: Annoying? <<Weird Al needs someone to take over for him..hmm>>: You and my roommate are in the running. He makes up alternate lyrics on the fly without thinking, while the song is playing. Below is his rewrite of Michael Jackson's "Thriller".

Shinigami: <<Dude, lay off the crack>>: Ack my bad. Sorry about that.

Greg X: <<Doug and Kit agreed on everything... oh yeah, Kit's fake>>: that and doug was afraid to disagree with anyone, so why would he be any less afraid of disagreeing with his woman? <<Seems to be the curse of us evil genius types, often not thinking of certain things>>: Then I guess the title "genius" doesn't apply. <<how dumb do you think I am?>>: Do you really want us to answer that? <<Getting on my bad side for one thing>>: I hear that! <>: that's a lovely image. <<Sounds great to me>>: Good, because I hate cleaning. <<Did I?>>: Yup! <<if I keep the people drugged up, they won't be revolting>>: Ooh good plan! Why don't you just put it in the water?

DPH: <<Shouldn't that make the judge excuse himself/herself?>>: One would think. But logic does not apply in texas. <<It's about a nice bank balance>>: Or good overdraft protection ;-) <>: Exactly why I want to convince them to switch to openGL. <<How's the afterlife?>>: dead.

Gside: <<Apparently I missed a chance to make a crack at the oppurtunity you mentioned>>: I see. Sorta. <<I'm not quite sure how bad it was yet>>: Well you'll know if you can't walk afterwards. <<Newbie>>: Yup. Three years this august. <<The dev team, then?>>: The hardware team. <<It's still the apple, just solid (if shaded), and varies with the color of whatever it's on>>: See slashdot for reference. I love how they've stopped bashing apple now that OS X is BSD-based. <<Something humanities majors get occaisonally, I hear>>: No, engineers get it too. Just during the day. <<50>>: Good, I was right. <<You get used to it>>: Or just keep yelling at him, like I do. <<there's a lot of couples in the top ten>>: Annoying, isn't it?

And here's my roommate's re-write of "Thriller", by the king of Pop.

1st Verse
It's close to midnight AOLers already lurking in the dark
Under the moonlight you see a sight that almost stops your heart
You control alt delete but AOL takes control before you make it
It starts to freeze as horror looks you right between the eyes,
You're paralyzed

Chorus
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
And no one's gonna save you from the ISP that noone likes
You know it's thriller, thriller night
You're fighting with your dial up on an ISP about to strike

2nd Verse
You hear the door slam and realize you're no longer online
You clench the sweaty fist and wonder if you'll ever get back on
You close your eyes and hope that this is just imagination
But all the while you hear your hard drive start to grind
You're out of time

Chorus
You got to sign on, sign on tonight
There ain't no second chance against AOL with all its size, girl
You know it's thriller, thriller night
You're fighting to stay online to see a killer, thriller website

Bridge
Tech support call
And the fools start to ask you if you have paid
There's no escapin' the jaws of AOL this time
This is the end of your life

3rd Verse
It's out to get you, their CDs closing in on every side
It will possess you unless you change that number on your dial
Now is the time for you and I to burn CDs together
All through the night I'll save you from the terror on the screen,
I'll make you see

Chorus
You got to sign on, sign on tonight
'Cause AOL can fuck you better than Uncle Sam would ever dare try
Girl, this is thriller, thriller night
So let me hold you tight and share a killer, better, faster
ISP tonight

(Rap performed by Vincent Price)
Darkness falls across the land
The midnite hour is close at hand
Sysadmins crawl in search of blood
To disconnect your neighborhood
And whosoever shall be found
Who can't hack AOL into the ground
Must stand and face the hounds of AOL
And deal with the connection hell

You fling their CDs through the air
You cut them with your pruning shears
As AOL CDs now fill your room
They're closing in to seal your doom
And though you fight to stay online
Your body starts to shiver
For no mere mortal can resist
The evil of the thriller

(into maniacal laugh, in deep echo)

Good night, folks.

There are no smart women in the world.
-Hcatty aka LostPerson, TGS Comment Room

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [@kicktothenuts.com]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, March 10, 2002 03:42:14 AM
IP: 64.161.25.51

DPH> "<As of Feb. 19,2002 the "Current Episode" page has Season 4 due out in Spring 2002.> You know it is funny. The GNC didn't mention the change".

Damn those lazy bums who run GNC! They're supposed to be on top of everything! =P Ok, first of all, I can't remember if I've seen a notice about the new "vague and tentative" release date for TGS posted here before. Maybe I have, but after seeing people ask about the release every other week, I've started to ignore such posts. Besides, I only skim this room. As stated in the FAQ, I depend on others for information too. So if it was mentioned here and you didn't see a notice of it up on GNC, it would have been nice for someone to e-mail me about it. Anyways, I might just wait for something more specific than "Spring 2002" before making an announcement. After all, the season was originally scheduled for September of last year, and that obviously didn't happen. (I'm not saying there wasn't good reason for the delay, but it sucks to get people's hopes up for nothing).

Changing the subject, what do you guys think of that 3D Gargoyles game that fan is making?
Vashkoda
Sunday, March 10, 2002 02:41:10 AM
IP: 129.98.122.194

Imzadi> <<Huh?>>: Apparently I missed a chance to make a crack at the oppurtunity you mentioned.
<<At least it wasn't a major raping>>: I'm not quite sure how bad it was yet.
<>: Newbie.
<<For the record, I think Steve Jobs is a punk and I would never offer to be his love slave>>: The dev team, then?

Jan> <<You mean it's not still that?>>: It's still the apple, just solid (if shaded), and varies with the color of whatever it's on.

Fire Storm> <<The youngest we had was about 12>>: But she hasn't been around in a good while.
<<True... but so am I>>: Good to hear.
<<Sleep? What's that?>>: Something humanities majors get occaisonally, I hear.
<<Are your Pizza luscious?>>: You'd better believe it. The Salami and cheddar, especially.

Green Baron> <<54 is the mdeian>>: 50.

Leo> <<Is there suhc a thing as ad yslexic typsit?>>: You get used to it.

Geez, there's a lot of couples in the top ten.

Greg> <<in which case I will tell them to go gargle rat jizz>>: Which reminds me, for the fans, Sexy Losers updated with two new ones, including a Seduction of Mme. X.

DPH> <>: E M A space N Y M T O N.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, March 10, 2002 01:41:13 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133

Green Baron> Re: Pilate.

The problem of Pilate is not that he was a malicious man, but that he was a weak, irresponsible man. That was the evil in his heart. He knew very well what was to pass. He knew Jesus was innocent. He had the authority to forbid the execution, disperse the mob, or possibly even simply imprison Christ until the crowds calmed down. He chose the easy way out, to the benefit of his own person, over what he knew was right. He did what was best for Pilate, and let an errant mob he was supposed to be responsible for run rampant and execute an innocent man with his acquiesence. He put his career and his convenience ahead of his sense of justice and his own soul.

Pilate put his own selfishness and a sense of apathy ahead of doing what was unquestionably the moral thing. His mistake is something the world should remember in learn from in this current day and age. Look at deeds ranging from the Nazi Germany all the way to Enron. Yes, such crimes can be repented and forgiven.

But never forget that washing your hands of a deed absolves you from nothing. It makes you a willing accomplice.

Spike> Re: Lists.

LOL. I from the mouth of babes ...

Firestorm> Re: Nukes. Just 8? Wow. We need to elect someone with a spine. If you're going to do something, do it the whole way, man!

Shadowrider>

Actually, there is pretty much a huge sign over the Pope that lights up when he's speaking infalibly. He's supposed to do it from the throne of St. Peter, in the Vatican, only in reference to issues of faith and morals, and it is usually a rather involved ritual with a LOT of hoopla.

I don't think it has been done often, if at all, in my life time.

The biggest problem with the Papacy, IMO, is that it is too easy to lean on. Everyone knows where the Pope is. If someone wants to wipe out the Church, wiping out the Vatican with all its officials is the place to start. That's why it has been historically easy for reprehensible politicians and monarchs to take control of the Papacy and turn the religion's infrastructure into a weapon, as well as to manipulate Papal succession (read: the Crusades)

For references in history, see the time when we had 3 Popes at once due to France basically taking the Papacy hostage and moving it out of Rome. Even in modern history, Facist Italy and Nazi Germany basically had the Papacy by the throat and could've murdered just about everyone in the organization who opposed them.

Heck, the most likely explanations conspiracy theorists mount for the unexpected death of one of the most recent Popes (John Paul I, I think) was the Mafia had him poisoned. The Pontif has, since his posting 6 months prior, dedicated a large, vocal effort to removing the Mafia's holdings from the bank of the Vatican.

A few months later, an otherwise healthy Pontif suddenly keels over dead out of the blue. The question of trying to track and remove Mob accounts is summarily dropped by his successors to move on to "more pressing matters." Witness reports are muddled and inconclusive, so it makes for a great conspiracies work.

Ok, that's enough for tonight. Sleep is my friend.
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Sunday, March 10, 2002 01:36:47 AM
IP: 66.31.222.137

DPH:<Laughs at speculation about why it is taking Timedancer so long to get published::> well, it was just an idea.

Leo
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:57:52 AM
IP: 172.169.180.20

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Leo
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:56:13 AM
IP: 172.169.180.20

Leo - <As of Feb. 19,2002 the "Current Episode" page has Season 4 due out in Spring 2002.> You know it is funny. The GNC didn't mention the change. <I wouldn't be surprised if some of the "new" staff haf to "re-acquaint" themselves with the previous three seasons (of Time Dancer alone, not counting the other spinoffs. Maintaining continuity is important to these people.> ::Laughs at speculation about why it is taking Timedancer so long to get published::

Brooklyn - <Why is Timedancer due out?> Check the current episode page, friend. If you could travel to the future of this current timeline, you could find out the exact date and time of when Timedancer season 4 premiered.

Jan - <he's a family friend> Shouldn't that make the judge excuse himself/herself?

Siryn - Are you sure it ever worked?

Mooncat - <Actually, I would LOVE to be rich. What of it? For me rich is not needing a day job to pay bills> I would be content to be able to write checks out without worrying about overspending. It's about a nice bank balance.

Imzadi - I thought VRML was dead for not being used that much. I mean I don't see that many sites out there that use VRML unless I am looking in all the wrong places.

GXB - <I'd replace the word good if I were you.> Oh yea, I forgot about my basic theology. None of us are "good". I have been accused at times of being a sadist when it comes to certain things, so I guess I can't be considered "good".

Ghost of Rev Attilla - How's the afterlife?

Anonymous ::Pulls out a flame thrower and starts firing::

I have always had trouble spelling anonymous.

Jan - <yeah, I like cats too - I just prefer dogs as choice of pets.> I like them both equally. Cats have their virtues and tall dogs have theirs.

Daniel Johnson - <That's all for now. Need sleep.> Pleasant dreams.
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:46:06 AM
IP: 204.94.193.44

NEIN!
Josh
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:33:16 AM
IP: 64.161.25.51

8th!!!

MARA> <<We're mates, doesn't mean we agree on everything>> Not true, Doug and Kit agreed on everything... oh yeah, Kit's fake ;)<<Cool beans, why didn't I think of that?>> Seems to be the curse of us evil genius types, often not thinking of certain things ;)

JAN> <<well, when you put it that way…>> All part of my crusade to destroy good wholesome family values. <<*LOL* Not hardly>> Good, cause it'd frighten me if you were.

DARLENE> <<That was my sister's kids on here. But hey they won't be back so don't worry OK! And they are not my kids. They are six years old and they are pain in a butt.>> Uh huh, how dumb do you think I am? <<So! I guess you would like to know more about me if so write me Ok! And I'll tell you the truth.>> I personally don't give a shit.

DPH> <<Are you as evil as I am good?>> I'd replace the word good if I were you.

JOSH> <<Then what are they doing over there?>> Getting on my bad side for one thing. <> Yeah, but I don't expect any of the people I plan on pissing off to show up, but I'm sure they'll offer their thoughts and opinions on our Con regardless... in which case I will tell them to go gargle rat jizz ;) <<$1>> That's $1. Do I hear $2?!? <<We'd split a maid each month>> Sounds great to me. <<What about the bet you made with me that you'd see him before he posted?>> Did I? <<Must there be crack?>> Of course, if I keep the people drugged up, they won't be revolting. <<That wouldn't be entertaining.>> Oh, I'm sure there are those who would find it funny. <<
Greg Bishansky
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:32:06 AM
IP: 216.179.6.81

Top Ten!
7th!
**Cuddles and leaves**
Dreamie and Winterwolf
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:16:17 AM
IP: 12.231.21.141

5TH!!!!!!!!!!
WOO!!!!!!!
lain and gunjack
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:13:11 AM
IP: 64.228.194.143

5th!!!
Mecord
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:12:43 AM
IP: 129.123.250.75

4th

Revel
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:11:37 AM
IP: 129.120.230.108

3rd
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:10:25 AM
IP: 204.94.193.44

SECOND!
Fire Storm and Lady Mystic
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:09:36 AM
IP: 216.254.103.139

1st.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscatway, NJ
Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:09:05 AM
IP: 198.151.130.133