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Jan -- <<Yes, I'm very much aware of the situation in Africa concerning HIV and such. However, do you really think that once it airs in Africa that it won't be introduced here in America shortly thereafter? They are already discussing the probability of this.>>

If they do, I can only applaud the people who can get it through our overly anal S & P departments. Children can only benefit from having a friendly and comforting role model of a "muppet child" who has to deal with real life issues of a terminal illness. For those who are themselves ill of aids or other things that will probably kill them before they reach adulthood, and for those who will be the friends and neighbors and fellow school mates of other children who have terminal conditions.

There is protecting kids, and then there is BLINDING them. For those who would "sanitize" children programming so that children don't see examples of real life things like disease or handicapped people, they are only setting up kids to be unfamiliar and uncomfortable with ill and handicapped people. Frankly, that's a mindset that sickens me far more than a child seeing a puppet person who is an example of child who has an illness or disability, yet is still a friendly and non-scary person that the child can relate to.

Kudos to Seseme Street for dealing with real life and making children comfortable and informed about real life issues. Seseme Street has always stood for education, and breaking down barriers of prejudice with knowledge and familiarity. Rather have children watch that than sanitized pap that has been so edited for content that it is the equivalent of "empty calories"/junk food TV.

Just my two cents
Mooncat >^,,^<
Mooncat
Sunday, July 14, 2002 12:05:39 AM
IP: 68.102.1.42

Leo> *chuckles and hugs* no no no... no flame war started! :)

Patrick> Yes, I'm very much aware of the situation in Africa concerning HIV and such. However, do you really think that once it airs in Africa that it won't be introduced here in America shortly thereafter? They are already discussing the probability of this.

Fire Storm and Lady Mystic> congrats on the closing of your home!! :) Such an exciting time for the two of you! Great adventure owning your home =)

SJ and Wilek> *LOL*

"Persistence" is just a euphemism for "serial failure."
Jan
Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:30:30 PM
IP: 12.215.180.102

Gside> <<Hey Wilek, what kind of demon can I summon from a kitney bean shaped outline on the ground?>>
You sure you wanna know?
[Wilek hits a button on a remote, and a holoscreen displays what appears to be the aftermath of the Great Flood, had the liquid in that case been whiz instead of water.]
That's what it did to the planet Ord Tarrasque. It took an array the size of an asteroid belt to recurse it back to its home plane. Do not allow a marmoset anywhere near that outline or you will doom us all. O_o
Wilek
Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:17:14 PM
IP: 128.241.245.34

Imzadi> Woohoo.
<<No, that's me>>: You aren't hairy enough.
<<at 8AM I'll believe anything. Well, almost anything>>: Me being the sexiest man on earth would fall into the second category, I take it?
<<Wasn't I talking to Spacebabie?>>: Yes, but the same pretty much applies to me.
<<You get that even though you're fully clothed, don't you?>>: They claimed it was worse.
<<No way. 9.81 and 3e8, usually>>: But only because I taught you.
<<Master flame baiter?>>: Nah, too obvious.
<<That and the stock market>>: But those conversations are a bit dry.
<<Lucky. I've only got 1>>: Evil laugh.
<<Then shut the !@#$ up!>>: Nah, we want more people in here.
<<We'll have to play some time. After I learn the game>>: Well, I've still got a bunch of stuff to get through before I install. Maybe it'll be moved up if my roomies also get it. Though you'd still whoop me.
<<Such things mean nothing to me>>: Oh, my world is collapsed. Life has no meaning. No, wait, there's still 42.
<<Private schools tend to waste tuition on things like athletics>>: Our teams were pretty small.
<<apple.com/switch>>: "My name is Raven, and I'm an elitist !@#$%^&"

Hey Wilek, what kind of demon can I summon from a kitney bean shaped outline on the ground? We're going to be making a garden, and we've got the border painted.

Welcome Zach.

Fire Storm> <<The house is OURS>>: Congratulations. Have you looked for broadband?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:07:09 PM
IP: 68.38.244.145

I'm sorry. That's "Jurgan" from the regular comment room.
Leo
Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:39:42 PM
IP: 172.174.63.237

*Sigh*
I didn't intend to start a debate.
I hope I didn't start a flame war. :(

The next link in the series: "Morons in America" courtesy of "Jourgan" from the regular Gargoyles comment room. :)

It's a "Petition to Rename 'The Two Towers' to Something Less Offensive" Notice the "update." HAAA-HAAA! :P
Leo - [<-Wooa, gonna take him to the zoo?]
Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:36:47 PM
IP: 172.174.63.237

Jan > You did read the article and understand that this new muppet is only joining the cast of "Takalani Sesame" in South Africa, and not the U.S. version of "Sesame Street", right? I don't mean to seem rude or anything... but in this case your comments seem to be betraying a strong cultural bias. For many, many children in Africa, HIV is a "scary, adult, depressing topic" that they already know about all too well. With one in nine of the population HIV positive (4.7 million people), South Africa has the highest incidence of HIV of any country in the world. And many of those are children who were BORN with the virus. So I don't see that there's anything inherently wrong or evil with introducing a character into a South African childrens show to help educate South African children about something they already deal with as a fact of everyday life. If nothing else, perhaps the new muppet might help the children separate the facts from the myths and thereby make things a little less scary.

SJ > Thank you once again for adding that wonderfully appropriate content. Just another Saturday night in the family-friendly TGS comment room. :: sighs ::
Patrick Toman - [<-- another article on the Sesame Street topic]
Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:29:03 PM
IP: 67.38.249.226

What in the unliving frell?! This post didn't go through when I tried to post it, and when I checked the CR afterward, the post wasn't there...Oh Mr. Disconnect? I have a variety of dull rusty saws that wish to play with your trachea. YEEEHEHEHHEHEHE
Wilek
Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:21:30 PM
IP: 128.241.245.34

SJ> I stand in awe. You have the most depraved and horrific sense of humour ever.
This is why I love you. ^_^
Wilek
Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:07:10 PM
IP: 128.241.245.34

<<HIV-positive Muppet character to be introduced in South Afrcan version of "Sesame Street" >>

Don't believe the liberal propaganda.

The real muppet virus can be traced back to ONE source.

You didn't really think Bert & Ernie were just "roommates" did you?

"You Stink! I hope you slip in a puddle of AIDS & crack your skull open!"
---Jim Norton

"Down to my target weight.
Carcoma popped out all over my face
I lost 3 teeth & all of my friends
looks like this time I'm nearing the end
Full Blown AIDS...

No need to lie, no reason to fib
when you're flat on your back counting all of your ribs.
I went to give blood they just showed me the door...
I stoop up to leave and I fell on the floor
Full Blown Aids

Damn that whore...
Damn that whore...
I said, damn that whore!
Damn that whore!

Well, now I've got AIDS, I don't feel so good.
So I'm gonna go out and share it with my neighborhood.
Bartender, waitress, here's your tip.
That ain't acne above my lip.

Oh, you have to leave? That's okay.
I've got time to kill. Maybe....2 or 3 days.
As I sit here, humming this song...
I start to think of everyone who done me wrong.

My fifth grade teacher, Mr. Beck...
You're gonna find a hypodermic in your neck!
My customer in the restaurant? Her tips blew.
So that ain't half-n-half in your stew.
And Wendy? You remember me. She stood me up for the prom.
But I won't infect her. I'm gonna infect her mom!
It's Full Blown AIDS!

Damn that whore!
Damn that whore!
I said, Damn that whore!
DAMN THAT WHORE!"

---"Full Blown AIDS", a love song by Jay Mohr & Mike DeNicola
Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Saturday, July 13, 2002 09:46:35 PM
IP: 207.172.11.147

Leo> yeah, I heard about the HIV positive Muppet... I have a problem with that. I don't think it's necessary to put that in a children's program. We are confronting them with these hard, cold realities of life when they're not prepared for it. And you can bet that the truth of HIV is not part of this presentation. How you get it and what happens if you do, will not be a part of this.

Well, if Sesame Street thinks that three to seven-year-old kids need to be taught about scary, adult, depressing topics like HIV, why stop with an HIV-positive character?
You know, if you really want to teach kids about life, just give Kermit the Frog the clap, and let him and Miss Piggy deal with it and show how it is to be an adult out there engaging in Clintonitis, instead of HIV. Or give other Muppet characters such as a pedophile or a child who suffers from depression.
There was a minor discussion earlier about children not being *forced* to face the reality of the adult world and letting them be innocent and _children_ while it's possible.
I think this has gone over the line in introducing children to adult issues and robbing the kids of their innocense.

Josh> yes.. sometimes I question your political party affliation. ;p

Metaldemon> thank you for your offer - that's very kind of you :) However, Kathy had already picked up a few extra and I requested one of them. Your kindness is appreciated!

Kathy> speaking of which... I will email you with my mailing address and I'll need your address in order to send you the money for the pin :)

I worked the jail this afternoon.. eesh, Katie fed them beans for lunch. I swear they sold their asses to the devil because it smelled like the pits of hell in there! *falls over*
heathens, all of them. ;)

Jan
Saturday, July 13, 2002 08:52:05 PM
IP: 12.215.180.102

HIV-positive Muppet character to be introduced in South Afrcan version of "Sesame Street"
Leo - [<-Look]
Saturday, July 13, 2002 06:17:47 PM
IP: 172.151.233.26

Congratulations Fire Storm and Lady Mystic. May your new home not be a moneypit.

Christine > Your pin went out in yesterday's mail.

Josh > I don't doubt we have different views on what is scary. However, I think it's preferable that as long as children aren't expected to join the workforce then they be allowed to keep to "childish things" and get exposed to more mature concepts gradually.

Jan > Yeesh. Crossing fingers for good test results. And I have your pins whenever you want them.
kathy
Saturday, July 13, 2002 03:04:18 PM
IP: 66.32.113.200

Let's see... not much happening lately...

Oh yeah...

We closed.

Yep. The seller tried to postpone by saying she was having contractions (at 6 months), we didn't find out how much money we were supposed to bring there until an hour and a half before the meeting, but still, that dosn't negate the important thing:

*WE*
*CLOSED!*

The house is OURS! YOU HEAR ME?!?! *OURS!*

...

Now the fun of actually moving in begins.
More whenever.
Fire Storm (with Lady Mystic at his side) - [NewHomeowners@WeFINALLYgotthefrigginghouse.com]
Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:55:57 AM
IP: 216.254.103.139

I wear white in here because I didn't at my wedding ; )

The sky looks ominous this morning. Maybe thunderstorms. I hope so. Had e-mail from my sister-in-law the other day and the temperature there was literally twice what it was here -- we had a 56-and-rainy day, they had 112. 112! Yow! How in the world did I survive 18 years living in that hellhole?

If the post is prompt, the family intervention letter might arrive today. I'll be braced for the phone call and gnawing Tums all day long. Joy.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:13:44 AM
IP: 65.239.13.191

i think this room is nice but weird!lol
Zach - [mackers@bored.com ]
Peoria, Arizona, UnitedStates of America
Saturday, July 13, 2002 03:44:41 AM
IP: 68.3.124.89

Alright, I decided I have time for a post tonight. Went to a restaurant after work to hang with the interns and management trainees. That was a lot of fun, but it sucks that I couldn't have anything to drink. I hate being the only one who isn't drinking, even if I'm just nursing a beer.

I got paid yesterday! Woohoo for direct deposit!

Time to catch up. Sorta.

Spacebabie: <>: I want one of those. I rarely want plushies, but in this case I do. <<When the frell is that coming out anyways?>>: She wouldn't know, she doesn't work on it anymore. <<they keep all the pretty lesbians there and send the ugly ones to Berkley and Greg’s bookstore?>>: No, just hot chicks in general. Contrary to popular opinion, not everyone at Berkeley is gay. Or even bi. <<You are nable to express yourself without using minor words now can you?>>: No, I use lots of big words. But they're usually engineering jargon. <<Yes I need to get my own place, but how can I get there with out a car>>: Oh come on, this should be a no-brainer even for a humanities major like you: get someone else to drive you. Maybe hire a moving truck? <<Wow that actually made sense>>: Too bad I phrased it incorrectly. <<I'm freaked>>: Yes, growing an inch is a great reason to freak. <<Wich Greg?>>: X. <<your big and hairy. Do you also have an admantium skeleton and have self healing abilities?>>: No, that's me. <<My second priority when I come into some money is to get a scanner that will work for a Windows XP>>: Oh, just switch to mac and get it over with.

Leo: <<I'm sort of introducing the contractor to CAD programs like "Chief Architect 8" and "3D Home." He still draws by hand but wants to start learning the software>>: And you're paying for the privilege, aren't you? <<I'm also honing my Photoshop skills by creating "virtual photos" of what the kitchen would look like with different cabinets and countertops>>: That's really cool! <<could you please, pretty please>>: Just teach your mom to do it herself. Or hell, write a script or whatever its called to do it and she can just run that. <<I'm sure she'd ask if I didn't still live here>>: The nice thing about not living at home is I never get called for tech support. <<Nooo comment>>: Dude, watching a video game on a $7000 system is awesome. <,most grad schools now give their own "specialized" enterance exams>>: That all depends on where you want to go and what you want to study. <>: You mean because Bruce Campbell did the voice-overs for the game? <<that's one movie that should be a direct to video release like those stupid dog movies>>: Agreed. <<Why not just use "GRE for Dummies"?>>: Two reasons: a) my GRE score is already quite high, so that book isn't targeted at me and thus won't be as effective, and b) my flaws are in very particular areas. Besides, tutoring is much more effective at motivating me to actually DO the work. <>: I'm sure I'll have to take several breaks. <<Have you thought about splitting it up?>>: I'm sure he hasn't, but that's a good idea. Personally I don't think a single story should exceed 30-40 pages.

Todd: <<it caused a real to-do when it was proposed>>: Does that mean we'll never see gay or lesbian couples in TGS? Or people with HIV? Cuz that never would have flown with the show. <<since apparently purging the system doesn't work>>: Reformat the drive. Then sell it and buy a mac. <>: Apple has great financing. <<how to get rid of this virus, once and for all>>: Start by not using outlook for mail.

Christine: <<Other Gang of Idiots>>: As opposed to the one you're in? ;-)

Gside: <<use of sleep deprivation among brainwashing techniques>>: Hell, at 8AM I'll believe anything. Well, almost anything. <<Don't need one at school, don't get out much at home, Jersey insurance is pretty bad>>: Wasn't I talking to Spacebabie? <<Just needed some updated DLLs to recognize my brand>>: Ugh. DLL-hell. No thanks. I'll stick to my kernel extensions and that's it. <<The floppy>>: What's a floppy? <<psychcs were complaining about public indecency>>: You get that even though you're fully clothed, don't you? <<oy do you need it. I mean, 9.4=g? 2e8=c?>>: No way. 9.81 and 3e8, usually. <<But you do know about the Life commercial?>>: I do now. <<Desire to be used?>>: I don't think so. By that term you could count your sock as a partner. Hell, I hear many girls say that they prefer their vibrators to most men they've been with. <<Flamebaiter>>: Master flame baiter? <<Current lives are just about the only thing constantly changing to provide enough fodder for a lively forum>>: That and the stock market. <<I've gotten Mail Undeliverable autoreplies for messages I never sent to people I don't know>>: Sounds like an episode of the twilight zone: "The email is coming from *INSIDE* the house! Get out now!" <>: Lucky. I've only got 1. <<Please note the frequency of others' posts>>: Then shut the !@#$ up! <<Should be getting medieval soon with NWN and WCIII>>: We'll have to play some time. After I learn the game. <<females tend to exist in quantum>>: Hey, if you could find the right half, you'd be in business. <<You getting naughty again>>: Or just bad at spelling. <<Like the Hello Kitty "shoulder massager.">>: Which is oddly phallic shaped ;-) <<Your purity shines through your words>>: Brownnoser. <<Come bask in my manliness>>: I don't think anyone would want to bask in *anything* that has to do with an ECE. <<Hire a giggilo?>>: She can't afford me. And I'm what she really wants, apparently. <<If you're talking about something belonging to someone else, it's your. If you're making a statement about someone else contracting you and are it's you're>>: One would think a humanities major would know such a thing. <<And after all we shared.>>; Such things mean nothing to me. <<Seen the latest Penny Arcade?>>: Yup. <<then, he does work at a private school>>: Even at private schools, a lot of teachers still don't make much. Private schools tend to waste tuition on things like athletics.

Lain: <<might have time to write a real post sometime this.. century? maybe?>>: I feel your pain. I'm swamped as well.

Jan: <<Since you were the one who mentioned the "brainwashing" then it's funny>>: Oh, sure, but when *I* do it I get an harranging for not being a good upstanding republican. <>: remind me not to visit you. <>: Doesn't surprise me ;-) <<welcome to the real world of employment>>: Wow. I was expecting. "Sheesh. Cry me a frikkin' river." ;-) <<you'll actually be glad when school starts so that you can get some rest>>: Ironic. After 6 weeks of work, I'm looking FORWARD to 8AM classes. <<My kids have told me of conversations I held with them after I returned home - but I don't remember any of it.>>: Good, they can hit you up for money ;-) <<$150 a year. whoooppeee>>: What kind of a bonus is that!? <<

Kathy: <<children do need some time of innocence other wise they become worldly beyond their years and scary>>: All depends on how you define innocence. How do you define it? My opinion is different from yours, I'd wager.

FS: <>: Why do you use IE? You're supposed to be a computer geek. <<EVERYONE should get an anti-virus>>: I would...but the odds of Norton f*cking up my computer are 100%, whereas the odds of a virus f*cking up my machine are roughly 0%.

Kai: <>: You're waiting for something in particular? <<who's bandwidth is getting chewed assuming that you run the banner in its own frame>>: Banners? Omniweb has a nifty feature that doesn't load images from any servers but the one you're at. <<What sorts of curiculum changes would help improve the quality of public schooling>>: How about stuff about the ways and laws of the city/state in which the school is based? I shouldn't know high-school aged kids who don't know that parking tickets are based on chalk-marks on tires. <<strings of explicatives aren't acceptable in most public settings>>: You obviously haven't been to meeting of Apple executives 8-) <<I'd cut down to elective status on the more specialized courses like Current Events, non-Western civ, Trigonometry, Calculus, and advanced Literature>>: Current Events CANNOT be optional. That would lead to a generation of kids who have no idea what's going on in the world around them. Non-western civ is also important. Its how we learn about ourselves. <<well, if I ruled the world we'd all be in deep trouble, I'm sure>>: Which is why I'm taking over.

DPH: <<What would have happenned to Goliath's clan if the Viking Massacre hadn't occurred at Castle Wyrvn?>>: By now, they'd probably be dead 8-) <>: Many outlook virii will run automatically, without you doing anything. <<f the modern the release of Windows, the easier it is for the operating system to crash>>: apple.com/switch.

Zath: <>: Now imagine graduating with 72 people like that, and you have my high school class.

Crzy: <<Do they not teach this anymore?>>: Nope. You were in 7th grade a LONG time ago. Schools suck now.

IX9: <<Really? Like what?>>: Wireless networking and firewire are two, but also things like true plug-and-play, built in CD-burning. Easy networking. <<Thank you for the link dude i'll be sure to check it out>>: What'd you think? I know the website can't fully explain the coolness of Jaguar. I saw a demo at WWDC in early may, and my jaw dropped. <<i'm hope it will last me until i bye a G4 or better.>>: It will. Jaguar will only improve speeds. <<Really how bad are you?>>: Bad enough to be doing this on a friday night. <>: No, I just said more than two girls I've dated are "the most twisted girl on the planet". <<another year to dabble with my Mac and give it the loving care it needs>>: It shouldn't need any. It should be able to run fine for months on end.

Stephanie: <<when I found out that there is an e-mail virus going around, the first thing I did was to e-mail someone>>: And send them annoying unwanted email about a virus going around through email? Isn't spam enough of a virus? <>: Notice the qualifying "probably". I was a virgin for much of the time I went to RHPS as well.

Damn, that took a while.

They've really got my balls in a vice grip.
-Mr. Tweek, South Park

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
San Jose, CA, US of A
Saturday, July 13, 2002 02:37:08 AM
IP: 207.214.211.116

Um, what happened to the CR?
Josh
Saturday, July 13, 2002 12:52:27 AM
IP: 207.214.211.248

*Whistles and 12 Coyote Robots fly in to destroy DC thoroughly.*

That's for all the problems I have been having lately with being online. I am beginning to wonder if the modern the release of Windows, the easier it is for the operating system to crash. I'm serious. These past weeks I have had more problems with some program crashing that last year.

For all of you wondering about why the current episode hasn't been updated, well, maybe that's because things realy are slow. Rest assured, when more stories from Timedancer season 4 reach final version, the page will be updated. Meanwhile, I'll give you a hint about what the message will be on the current episode page the last time it is updated before an exact date is set for when it will premiere. That message will be "All Timedancer season 4 stories are in edits. [Insert Number] of timedancer season 4 stories are in final version."

Jan - <The one thing that I would like to point out though.... teachers are NOT paid 12 months while only working 9-10 months. They are paid for the actual months worked and have an option of spreading that amount out over the actual working months or into 12 months.> As I recall, there are tax advantages to having the payments spread out over the 12 months, namely less money is taken out of each pay check for taxes.

IX9 - happy birthday

Gside - <the problem is they don't have to be active in the fandom.> I know. It's maddening to know that I can't list my email address without getting spammed and others do the same thing so private communication is difficult.

Tribun - Thanks. Sheesh. This pretty close to my imagined worse case scenario - somebody buys a list of email addresses just so they can send a new virus to everybody on the list.

*A temporal wave passes through the CR* Hmm. I think I know what caused that temporal wave, but I want to be sure before saying anything.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, July 13, 2002 12:48:34 AM
IP: 204.94.193.39

Yesterday was my turn to finally see "Lilo." After seing the trailers for the two upcoming Disney releases, my opinion of Disney went down several notches. "Treasure Planet" doesn't bother me as much as "Country Bears" (now that's one movie that should be a direct to video release like those stupid dog movies) Do any of you living in Texas rember a chain of pizza restaruants called "Showbiz Pizztime Theatre?" (I think Chuckie Cheeze bought them out)
They had a litte theatre with an animatronic country band and the lead singer was a bear named "Billy-Bob" I started having flashbacks of elementary school birthday parties when I saw that trailer. AAAAAGGGGGH!

Replies:

Josh:<> Why not just use "GRE for Dummies"? :-D

Spacebabie:<<That�s a movie? I remember reading the book>> Iv'e read the book also, and yes they made a movie of it in the 70's. It's directed by Robert Wise and it is very faithful to the book (unlike Jurassic Park or Rising Sun.) There are only a few time cuts, and they made one of the four scientists a female for PC reasons. I touught it was a pretty good movie though it seemed a bit slow. (I'm sure someone out there in Hollywood has thought of making an "updated version" alla Planet of the Apes")<<My second priority when I come into some money is to get a scanner that will work for a Windows XP>>Hmm, strange. I have an HP-4p that's 6 yrs old and it works just fine on Windows XP. What kind of scanner is "Gourry?"

The Barracuda:<<#79 is almost ready, and somehow it's reached up to almost 90 pages>> Yikes! I don't know if I can stare at my monitor that long. Have you thought about splitting it up? :)

Christine:<<my pure and virginal hue>>And what would that be? 248 red, 245 green, 212 blue? :)
Leo
Saturday, July 13, 2002 12:26:03 AM
IP: 172.154.26.125

Christine> <<if I forget to use my pure and virginal hue, how will they know it's me?>>: Your purity shines through your words.

Spacebabie> <<My second priority when I come into some money>>: What's the first? Come bask in my manliness? Hire a giggilo? Buy some lime Jello and mint jelly?
<<Ooops butterfingers I dropped an �>>: Nope, a ' and an e. If you're talking about something belonging to someone else, it's your. If you're making a statement about someone else contracting you and are it's you're.
<<We just need to peek at those piccys>>: Those pics weren't that bad.

IX9> Happy birthday.

Imzadi> <<Sorry. Well, not really>>: I thought as much. And after all we shared.
<<Just do what I do and look for more>>: I try, but I've already carved my niche in what I do and don't reply to, and it's hard to get out.
<<Treat yourself to something mac-like>>: Seen the latest Penny Arcade? It's a rebuttal to the latest Apple advertising campaign.

Stephanie> <<Wheels in the birthday cake and hands IX9 the flavour remote>>: So you're taking over Coyote's job?

Jan> <<Of course, it's not so funny if you're a teacher>>: My father's a teacher, and we haven't done too badly. But then, he does work at a private school. Which reminds me, I should scan that picture of me hitting him with a sledgehammer.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, July 12, 2002 11:51:41 PM
IP: 68.38.244.145

Jan> "gargoyles-pin". I have an extra-one if you would like it. I bought it to keep sealed and really have no use for it. So if you'd like it, just e-mail me.
Gabriel "gaygoyle" - [marduk80@hotmail.com]
Friday, July 12, 2002 11:22:56 PM
IP: 24.219.165.75

IX9> geesh, what's your problem? I'm not jumping on you, but I really don't appreciate your innuendos that you have been making concerning Anna and myself.
I do believe that I know Anna FAR more better than you do and I know what she would mind or not mind in what I say in public about her. These are my friends here and not hers. She doesn't read this room anyway... even if she did, I don't care. She doesn't need a watchdog - I assure you that I'm a pitbull when it comes to my children.
I haven't said anything too personal about her or Michael. Maybe there's a reason she hasn't told you?? I don't know - but don't fuss at me because I mentioned that she is buying a house in here and it's something that she hasn't told you yet. My friends here are aware of the past that she and I have had and when I say that she is buying a house, it's a victory for both of us. I will share some of my victories here.

Josh> welcome to the real world of employment *chuckles*
Seriously though, it sounds like you have a very busy schedule and I'll bet you'll actually be glad when school starts so that you can get some rest! :D

Wilek> that's soooo sick, dude! *giggles* Now I know why I love ya!

Spacebabie> You're 5'9"?? gawsh, you would tower over me! then again, a lot of dwarfs would tower over me... O_o ;)
Yeah, Anna's a piglet when it comes to housekeeping skills. I'm a clutterer myself, but at least I will clean once a week so that I can start the clutter all over the next day ;) At least in her own house, I don't have to look it on a daily basis. hehe

I had my stomach scope thingy done yesterday - that's an experience I will NOT have again. I have no idea of what they found out - gotta' love those valium cocktails! I do remember them saying something about inflammation to the stomach lining and something about it being a precursor to stomach cancer. They drew more blood for additional testing. My kids have told me of conversations I held with them after I returned home - but I don't remember any of it. I ended up sleeping a total of 8 hours after returning home during the day and then slept last night.
I wonder if I can get the valium cocktail in a "to-go" container... ;)

GSide> funny joke *L* Of course, it's not so funny if you're a teacher.. ;) The one thing that I would like to point out though.... teachers are NOT paid 12 months while only working 9-10 months. They are paid for the actual months worked and have an option of spreading that amount out over the actual working months or into 12 months. They receive a bonus after so many years of employment - starting bonus for us was around $150 a year. whoooppeee *twirls finger* Each school district is different, though.

Still no luck in finding Gargoyle pins :(

Long and busy day - I'm going to go rest now. We have 41 inmates right now and we're comfortable with around 27. We have some really violent men there too. Lucky me... I'm working in the jail tomorrow. "Lock Down" will be my motto.

Jan
Friday, July 12, 2002 06:34:31 PM
IP: 12.215.180.102

**Stephanie D purrs seductively at Mr. DC and motions to him to come to sit next to her. She runs her hand down his chest. He smiles. Suddenly, her fingernails become 3" long and razor sharp. Stephanie D disembowels Mr. DC and uses his intestines for garters.**

I really needed that.

This has been such a long week; this has been the first full week that I have been working here; this has been the first week where the supervisors for both sections have been here; this has been the busiest week.
I must be tired; I like semi-colons too much. *Shudders at her grammar*

E-mail virii: I find it very ironic that when I found out that there is an e-mail virus going around, the first thing I did was to e-mail someone.

DPH: *Hugs* My condolences regarding your Grandfather.

IX9: "Another DB fan" Girlz like DBZ too. Between my boyfriend and I, we have almost the complete set of DB&Z in both trade and manga.
Happy birthday. **Wheels in the birthday cake and hands IX9 the flavour remote** Have fun.

Imzadi: "If you're actually a virgin (sex), you're probably a virgin (RHPS)" I must be the exception to that rule. My father introduced me to RHPS when I was 12. I was still a virgin.
"parents out there that think children should never be exposed to violence" Those parents obviously have never spent much time on an elementary schoolyard.

Kiaoto: "What sorts of curiculum changes would help improve the quality of public schooling?" I took a Critical Thinking class in college. It should be mandatory in all high schools.

Spacebabie: "a cute and fluffy Stitch stuffed animal" You didn't forget 'cute and fuzzy'!

Au revoir
Stephanie D - [SCurtin@icao.int]
Montr�al, Qu�bec, Canada
Friday, July 12, 2002 05:56:49 PM
IP: 192.206.28.62

IX9: Happy birthday! Treat yourself to something mac-like 8-)
Josh
Friday, July 12, 2002 12:06:14 PM
IP: 63.65.68.246

You can't imagine how much I have on my plate. In addition to 40 hours of work every week, I have 8 hours of classes for GRE and LSAT followed by homework. Lots of homework. This week I have hundreds of practice questions to work through, on top of learning a bunch of vocab words, etc. It's like school. It keeps me way too busy to post as frequently as I usually do. I also have to get my apartment ready for my friend who's coming to stay with me for a while.

Gside: Sorry. Well, not really. Just do what I do and look for more 8-)

Christine: The name helps, even if your post isn't as pure and virginal 8-)

Spacebabie: Happy? No? Get over it.
Josh
Friday, July 12, 2002 12:04:22 PM
IP: 63.65.68.246

Hello peeps at exactly this time on July 12th My moms gave birth to this beautiful baby who has taken 23 years to grow up. He has grown up into the young man and all around great guy you see before you. In other words : It's my Birthday!

*jumps and yells.* Whoo-hoo!

Wait a minuent what am i celebrating about I am old...*cries.*

Oh, well another year to dabble with my Mac and give it the loving care it needs.*huggels his mac and avatar.* *Le sigh.*

Alright enough of this mushy bullSh*t

Jan> Hey, I got a question to ask you Jan: Doesn't Anna mind you telling all these thing to ppl she doesn't know? I mean she hasn't told me anything about her house...mabye she doesn't want everyone knowing about her business?"

and now without further ado....

Replies:

FireStorm> IX9:<Were you in Taina's and Lily's chat this past Sunday?>
Not to my knowledge...<<Oh, okay my bad.>>
Did someone use the name "Fire Storm" there? <<Yes.>>
Maybe it is another Firestorm (There is a Firestorm in the GFW... which is the reason I used Night Flame.)<<Maybe it was. Sorry for the mistaken idenity dude.>>

SPacebabie>Aggghhhh I just measured myself I'm 5'7" the last I measured myself I was 21 and stood 5'6". I'm freaked!!!!

<<THe last time i measured myself I was 19 and I stood at 5'9...but nowadays I think I'm 5'11 to 6'0 i don't know i gotta find a ruler. Or at least be a part in a police line up. ;)>>

IX9<<<You should try watching an whole episode now that's good anime.>>>I have seen some of his tapes.[Sweet. Did you enjoy it?]<<<Youth doesn't get anything these days >>>Yes I know he�s a dumbass <<*L* Arent all of them now a days?>>

Is it me or does anyone else want to smack that brat in the phone commercial complaining that her bear is broken cause it doesnt talk. << Actually I did. smacking her isn't going to help. Sending her ass to the moon on a Acme Rocket is the only way..>>
IX9 - [ix9@devil.com]
From, the town, of horror
Friday, July 12, 2002 12:03:58 PM
IP: 24.189.100.203

Not much has happened recently. Finally saw Lilo and Stitch, and I cooked dinner yesterday. Popcorn chicken and fried zucchini fingers.

Is it me or does anyone else want to smack that brat in the phone commercial complaining that her bear is broken cause it doesnt talk.

replies.
Jan<<<but I won't miss the clutter, the left over food products in her room, the increased trash left in the living room and kitchen, etc>>>Anna sounds like my brother. I�m constantly moving his garbage away from the computer area. I�m not exactly neat myself but I do put garbage into the wastebaskets, dirty cloths into my hamper, make my bed, vacuum the hug rug in my room and sweep up the rest of the floor. The only food in my room right now is cat food.

Wilek>>>You have never failed to let me down.

Gside>>>Can't you hook Gourry up with the new computer? That�s the reason wh its in my room. When we first got the new computer we hooked the scanner to the new computer but it just wouldn�t take. My second priority when I come into some money is to get a scanner that will work for a Windows XP<<<I'd assume Bishansky, since he's here. >>>I thought Weisman since he is the big Kahuna <<<My big and hairy what? You getting naughty again?>>>Ooops butterfingers I dropped an �

Leo<<<Only 2 people have "Andromeda Strain" in their list.>>>That�s a movie? I remember reading the book.<<<Is your attic just as full?>>>What attic?

Christine<<<virginal hue, how will they know it's me?>>>Virginal??? HA! We just need to peek at those piccys.

Josh>>>Post Damn you!

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Friday, July 12, 2002 10:06:24 AM
IP: 67.25.52.180

Egad, if I forget to use my pure and virginal hue, how will they know it's me? ; )
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:42:25 PM
IP: 65.239.47.162

Site update> many new and lovely pics in the Gallery, thank you so much to the artists! Clickie or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html to see.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:38:15 PM
IP: 65.239.47.162

Christine> <<whoever had the comment about smeg>>: I think that was me.

Leo> <<See Gside>>>: Are you sure that's wise?

DPH> <<I'd look to know who in the fandom has an address book that contains my email address>>: the problem is they don't have to be active in the fandom.
<<Is there anything wierd on sell anywhere on the 'net that you aren't looking for?>>: That he hasn't found, I'm sure. That he's not looking for, perhaps. Like the Hello Kitty "shoulder massager."

Imzadi (etc.)> See what I'm reduced to without you? only four replies.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:36:22 PM
IP: 68.38.244.145

Tribun: I'm not MIA or dead, or the victim of every molecule in my body simultaneously imploding, if that's what you're asking (I suppose not, but just to alleviate your fears). #79 is almost ready, and somehow it's reached up to almost 90 pages. I'll have it posted hopefully by this weekend, if not next week sometime. Well, guess I'll go back to my "delurking" mode.
Laters...
The Barracuda - [toddl@cyberlink.bc.ca]
B.C., Canada
Thursday, July 11, 2002 05:36:26 PM
IP: 208.181.155.48

Tribun: Why don't you just email him?
Josh
Thursday, July 11, 2002 05:21:52 PM
IP: 63.65.68.246

DPH>I must disappoint you. The virus got no chance to use my adressbook to send mails, becaus I don't use this option of Outlook Express. I don't use the Adressbook and have no entries in it...

Heard something from The Barracuda?
Tribun - [joachim_henkel@gmx.net]
Luebeck, SH, Germany
Thursday, July 11, 2002 03:40:15 PM
IP: 62.214.36.98

After the virus scare yesterday, I know my computer is virus free, at least according to McAfee. I even updated the list of patterns to look for and rechecked my computer and still came out virus free. I also know why those forged emails weren't delivered: they were too big. (42k and 142k message, no attachement).

I'd look to know who in the fandom has an address book that contains my email address, Winterwolf's, Aaron Wheeler's and Todd's. That's the person who is really infected. Since every email account I use is web-based (except for the one to connect to the internet, but no emails are sent from there) and I have no address book, I must be a little more immune.

Wilek - Is there anything wierd on sell anywhere on the 'net that you aren't looking for?

Tribun - You might be the explanation for why one email that had my email address listed in the from field went to somebody in Germany. Can you let us know of anyone in the fandom who was in your email address book while you were infected?

Gside - if anyone can make sense of those unprintables, let me know. My mom's sister (my aunt) did NOT attend my mom's funeral and it was a long time before that that anyone in my immediate family has seen my aunt. <Teachers are paid too much. They do a job that we give to other children. So let's pay them a babysitter's wage. That's what, $5/hr on the low end? And they only go for 3/4 of the year, so let's only pay them for that. Wait, they have to deal with classes of 30 or so kids, so let's be nice and multiply that by the hourly wage. Ignoring time spent grading, correcting tests, and other after hours tasks, that's a yearly salary of
~$234,000. Nevermind.> Good joke.

Coyote - <The "pwrlevels" mail might be coming from more than one person, though, because I have it from three seperate senders. Additionally, I might add, I most nights wind up interrupting long IM's with Ravyn having to give the Norton firewall FS put up on my machine instructions to block the asshole hacker who seems to enjoy subscribing my address to every sick fetish porn site on the planet. :P > Interesting. <Well, I think I found the possible source of my virus, at least ... it was messages I didn't even frickin' open with the subject line "pwrlevels." Both of them had hidden file attachments on them.> Wait a minute: I thought you had to open the message in order to get infected.

DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, July 11, 2002 02:38:03 PM
IP: 204.94.193.42

Nothing interesting to report. The contractor came by yesterday to go over the remodeling plans. I'm working on a thumbnail page for my pics.

Replies:

Gside:<<one of the masterworks of Ennio Morricone, the theme from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.>>Waaa-Waaa-Waaa. There used to be an Ennio Morricone web page but i think it's now in 404 land. He's writes some good scores. There ar some though that I'm sure he'd like to forget. Have you ever heard "A Gringo like Me?"

Spacebabie:<>looks interesting. I pladyed around withe the "favorite movie" Only 2 people have "Andromeda Strain" in their list. :P<<bikes, a scooter, a lawnmower, tools, recycling bins, A freezer, some old stuff that came from y Grandmother�s house, a dolly, and Christmas decorations>>Is your attic just as full? There's also Salvation Army and Disabled Vets to consider :-).<< have to scan them on Gourry who is connected to dirty Z then transfer them to the new computer>>(See Gside)Is Gourry connected to an old ISA SCSI card that won't fit in your new computer?

Leo
Yorktown, Va
Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:30:08 AM
IP: 172.136.142.82

JLA > we didn't get that banking thing until high school, and then it was in the elective Humanology/Psychology course. That was the same class in which we had to do the eggbaby thing. I do think schools would be better served teaching a little more along the lines of life skills instead of quite so much rote memorization of historical facts, moldy old literature, and so forth.

Zombie news > I don't know what's the matter with me ... first Infernal, and now my submission to the Book of More Flesh ... Tim thinks I'm seriously sprained in the brain ... but if I could just figure out an ending and settle on a title, I'd be set.

Stephen > my remark about AvMists wasn't aimed at you, hon. I know you're doing everything you can to carry on and I hope that they get it all fixed soon so we can see that new issue!

Frell > ah, thanks! Had been wondering about that for a while. And to whoever had the comment about smeg, yeah, I think you're right.

Saw Lord of the Rings again at the cheap theater, finally with the spiffy trailer for the next one. Was a little late for work but it was worth it. Riders of Rohan, hoy!

Christine
Thursday, July 11, 2002 04:55:05 AM
IP: 216.161.255.105

Ordered some toys today. Should be getting medieval soon with NWN and WCIII (with all the extras).

IX9> <<Really? Like what?>>: From what I've heard from him, I'd say IEEE 1394 and wireless LANs,
<>: He said >2, which is equivalent to >=3, as females tend to exist in quantum.

Spacebabie> <>: Can't you hook Gourry up with the new computer?
<<Wich Greg?>>: I'd assume Bishansky, since he's here.
<<Wow your big and hairy>>: My big and hairy what? You getting naughty again?
<<Do you also have an admantium skeleton and have self healing abilities?>>: Actually, Wolvie is renouned for his shortness. Anyway, I've never broken anything, but I do have scars.

Jan> <<my son will eventually find someone to marry and will become more of a part of his wife's family>>: I was under the impression that it tended to be the other way around.

And the mp3 is one of the masterworks of Ennio Morricone, the theme from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:58:42 PM
IP: 68.38.244.145

Found something on EBay this time. Perfect for the room of a Teletubbies fan. :)
Leo> Hmm...somehow I missed that. Thankee. :)
Wilek
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:55:00 PM
IP: 128.241.245.34

*leans in, tired*

Mandolin: yeah, he's reposting Shadowplay, but if you scroll further down there'a public service announcement from Whitbourne, Bonnie, and Carbonear...they sez they've forced him to start writing again, and new stuff should be showing up...eventually...

*fooomp*
Lynati
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:29:59 PM
IP: 64.157.71.131

Wilek:>Actually...they *are* on e-bay. Didn't you see the link in the top left corner? "OOAK ugly winged hunchback doll",and there's still (at the time of this post) five hours left. Happy bidding!! :-)
Leo
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 08:09:06 PM
IP: 172.175.176.96

Wilek: Seek Help. Quickly.
Josh
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 07:12:50 PM
IP: 63.65.68.246

Spacebabie> Not on EBay, no...but the net is bigger than EBay. Click and enjoy. Kawaii, ne? ^_^
Wilek - [<--Dolls? Why would Stauf keep this room, a room filled with dolls, locked?!]
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 05:50:02 PM
IP: 128.241.245.34

IX9> of course I'll miss Anna when she leaves the house (again).... but I won't miss the clutter, the left over food products in her room, the increased trash left in the living room and kitchen, etc. Besides, there's a difference between a daughter leaving the nest and a son leaving (in a mom's POV) I will always "have" my daughter - my son will eventually find someone to marry and will become more of a part of his wife's family, etc. There's an old poem that says,
A daughter is a daughter until her dying day
A son is a son until he marries away.
It's reversed when a daughter marries or leaves - the dad has a bit more difficult time dealing with it than the mom does.
I have already experienced Anna leaving - even though it was under the worst of circumstances. Michael has never left home. Anna will be moving a couple of miles away - Michael will be gone for the rest of his life now. He won't be moving a couple of miles away - he might be a couple of countries away.

Speaking of which - he officially was sworn into the USAF this afternoon at 2pm. I did not know he was going to go that far so soon. It came as a shock and reality sucks. I cried all afternoon - even though the men made fun of me. goober cops.

I'm on my way to Joplin to pick Michael up.
Jan
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 05:30:24 PM
IP: 12.215.180.102

Winterwolf - One of these emails that I was forged with my email address and was undeliverable had your excite email address as the recipient. So be carefull about the emails you are receiving.
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 05:18:16 PM
IP: 204.94.193.80

Warning: I've had two emails forged with my email address being the sender. (I saw them because they were undeliverable.) Unless I let you know that there is an email cfrom me coming, don't open it. I'm going to try to fidn the root cause of this problem.
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 03:06:01 PM
IP: 204.94.193.30

Hello, all just popping in.

Replies:
<<My son, Michael has decided to enlist in the Air Force. He has already talked to the recruiter, taken the military test (scored perfect in all 5 categories), turned in his paperwork, and will be going to Kansas City for MEPS on Tuesday for his physical and to select the area in which he wants to enter. Because of his Eagle Scout award, he will leave Basic at the rank of an E3. :)
I have very mixed feelings about this. While I'm extremely proud of his decision and proud of him, the "mom" side of me is dealing with the fear of him increasing his chances of being killed or hurt and the heartbreak of him leaving the nest. So, I do what most moms do... I sit in my bathroom and cry.
Looks like I'll be making a trip to San Antonio after he completes Basic (for his graduation). I don't mind, I have always loved San Antonio :)
Anna's home loan is moving right along and they are predicting that it will close by the end of this month. I will miss having Wacky Zachy here each day, but it's time for her to have her own place. She's been trying to move out on her own, but she's hit obstacles and delays with the home loan. Everything is fine now (that we know of) and hopefully I will be concerning myself with getting her and her furniture moved in just a few short weeks>>.

You know what? After rereading that post I have noticed something. You seem to be very sad for everyone leaving your house accept for Anna.Wouldn't you miss her as well?
IX9 - [ix9@devil.com]
From the, city of, horror
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:11:39 PM
IP: 24.189.100.203

Klez Virus? Well I have just one thing to say to that...

::blows a huge raspberry::

Virii suck.
Josh
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:21:03 AM
IP: 63.65.68.246

Blech!!!!
It's already raining this morning. Yesterday or was it Sunday???We got the good kind of rain. That one that is what I refere to as a refreshing summer shower. Cuz it was raining while the sun wa still shining. Very pretty. You just wanna pull on some boots grab an umbrella and splash around.

I am now part of Diaryland. just look for me under my online name.

Replies
Firestorm<<>>So we will get to see them again around Halloween?

Leo<<<No room in garage for at least one of those cars?>>>Lets see the garage has bikes, a scooter, a lawnmower, tools, recycling bins, A freezer, some old stuff that came from y Grandmother�s house, a dolly, and Christmas decorations. Nope no room for a car.<<<When are you gonna start scanning and posting YOUR gathering pics? ;P >>>I have to scan them on Gourry who is connected to dirty Z then transfer them to the new computer, then upload them online.

Christine<<<that's the Other Gang of Idiots department ; )>>>How many idiots???Does it take to put together a zine?

Wilek>>>LOL oh BTW dude anymore strange items up for bid?

Josh<<<I'll use Greg's name for subscribing to sick porn sites in the future ;-) >>>Wich Greg???

Midget>>>Hey welcome to the CR. Wilek will take care of your sanity. Some small advice. Try to limit posts to once a day. If you have more that one thing to say put it together in a big post.

Gside<<<So I only have 7 inches on you instead of 8.>>>Wow your big and hairy. Do you also have an admantium skeleton and have self healing abilities?

IX9<<<You should try watching an whole episode now that's good anime.>>>I have seen some of his tapes.<<<Youth doesn't get anything these days >>>Yes I know he�s a dumbass
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:50:18 AM
IP: 67.24.95.199

**pokes her head in, a Kleenex box in one arm**

I hate allergy season. :)

Kaioto re: the Gathering> Once I get my computer set up and finally get the pics off my digital camera, I do have a shot of you getting the Thom Adcox award. Hope Lexy was happy.

Lynati> **nearly does a spit take, but recovers for her computer's sake** Dylan's actually WRITING again?? Must see if I can get to the fic archive from my job's network...

Klez-Virus> Fortunately, Norton Anti-Virus has been great at preventing me from getting it so far (knock on wood). I don't have a preview pane open for my mail anyway, so whenever I see an e-mail with a 100K or more attachment, it goes right into the trash. Norton usually quarantines the message anyway, but I still nuke it. I'm kind of annoyed that within a week of having my new e-mail account I started getting those infected e-mails, but hey... I've been keeping on top of it.

DPH> It's belated, but you have my condolences too. Sorry about your grandfather.

Coyote> Been meaning to do this since I cleaned out my old apartment two weeks ago: remember those drawings you mailed to me waay back in 2000 to be scanned for the online Gathering? I thought I'd lost them - until I emptied my bookshelves and discovered them still in their Priority Mail envelope without a scratch. You still want them back? :)

Oops. Work intrudes. More later.
Mandolin
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:29:25 AM
IP: 199.173.225.21

W32.Kletz.H@mm......this Virus is a pain in the ass.

I got this fuc$%$# virus a few weeks ago, and it was really a mess. But finally i outfoxed it. This virus will create a file calles "winkcbl.exe" (or in that way, I don't remember exactly) in the "System" directory of Windows (and the file is cloaked). This file is protected by Windows itself, as long as it is in this directory, and it can't be moved. And DOS don't see the file. To eliminate the file, I copied the whowe directory with exception of the virus file. with the help of the "Norton commander" toll, I named the "System" directoy with the virusfile "System2" and the "System1" directory without the file "System". Then the file was not longer protected, and I deleted it and the old "System" direcory. And with the Help of Norton Anti-Virus I killed all viruses on my PC.

Norton Anti-Virus is excellent to kill or repair the infected files.....
Tribun - [joachim_henkel@gmx.net]
Luebeck, SH, Germany
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 08:36:25 AM
IP: 62.214.34.135

*peeks in*
Re: Virus Scanner / Klez-Virus

The Klez-Virus is a very ugly bugger. He not only mails himself to another addy found in your address book or internet explorer cache - He additionally fakes the sender address to be another one out of the same source. So even if it says that you got this EMail from user A, it just means that both yours and User A's email-address can be found in the address book or cache on user B's (infested) computer. And there's no easy way to find out who user B is.

So, please - EVERYONE in here: check your comnputer. This stupid virus MUST be removed as soon as possible.

I get about 5 - 10 a week..... mostly to my gargoyles-fans.org-addy (so I suspect it's the cache-part of the virus fetching it from the fanfic main page).

*poofs*
Guandalug la'Fay - [guandalug@gmx.de]
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 05:34:29 AM
IP: 134.147.82.247

IX9:<Were you in Taina's and Lily's chat this past Sunday?>
Not to my knowledge...
Did someone use the name "Fire Storm" there?
Maybe it is another Firestorm (There is a Firestorm in the GFW... which is the reason I used Night Flame.)
Fire Storm
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 02:14:45 AM
IP: 216.254.103.139

Midget- Yes, thank you for taking the time to stop in and say hello, won't you join us more often, we are fun *clicks door lock* stay a while.

"You don't have to be undead to be evil, but it helps."
Anita Blake, Guilty Pleasures-
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 01:48:30 AM
IP: 172.168.7.160

Hello, Cats and kittens, IX9 here again and boy yeasterday was busy. I was stuck till 9:00 in the morning upgrading and installing new software and OS for the MAc and PC's in my little corner of the world. Then I had to install then new Express pay system, made sure that the customers were being charged properly blah, blah blah Yackety smackity.

After driving 30 minuents home I had to check out my printer and Cd burner and figure out why they wern't working. That didn't take too long for me to accomplish,

After that i started to work on revamping my website and writing of course...man so many things to do in such little time.

Oh, yeah i'm gearing up for my 23rd b-day as well.

Firestorm> Were you in Taina's and Lily's chat this past Sunday?

Now without further ado...

Replies>

Josh>IX9: <<what do you think of Mac OS X?>>: I love it. Compared to OS 9<<Sweet.>>...well, there is no comparison. Its superior in every way, unless you're oddly attached to some quirk of OS9 (like the chooser or something)<< The only quirk i have with it is that's it's still on my Mac ;) But, not anymore.>>. Compared to Windows, I find it to be far more intuitive and far more stable. It seems to be much more standards compliant and takes advantage of many technologies that require complicated installation procedures in Windows.<<Really? Like what?>> Jaguar, the next version of OS X, comes out this summer and its gonna be even more amazing. You can check it out at apple.com/macosx/newversion.<<Thank you for the link dude i'll be sure to check it out.>> There is a caveat to all this though: OS X really needs a G4 and a lot of RAM. No matter what they say, every G3 that I see it on is a bit pokey for doing anything complex.<<Well, I maxed out the memory on my G3 and it's working just fine.(thank god) So i'm hope it will last me until i bye a G4 or better.>> I'm gonna max out the ram in my iBook and see what happens. <<unitl I got a Mac and I have been in-doors ever since>>: LOL. I'm not quite that bad<<Really how bad are you?>>

You can't be raising the most twisted girl on the planet, because that title already belongs to half of the girls I've dated. Which, oddly, is more than two girls 8-) << Heh, I got you beat by dating three..but that's old news.>>

Spacebabie> My brother downloaded that scene als the scene where Goku steals Bulma�s pantys << That's pretty sweet. You should try watching an whole episode now that's good anime.

Christine> PowerPuff Girls > anyone else seen the movie yet? We loved it, had a grand time. I can't imagine why my cousin won't let her kid watch the show. Says it's too violent. Honestly. Wherever would she get such an idea? <g> Though really, the best part was probably the Harry Potter preview. <<Hmm, really? I plan on seeing it today. you know since I'll have nothing else to do.>>

Jan>

My son, Michael has decided to enlist in the Air Force. He has already talked to the recruiter, taken the military test (scored perfect in all 5 categories)<<That's awesome!>>, turned in his paperwork, and will be going to Kansas City for MEPS on Tuesday for his physical and to select the area in which he wants to enter. Because of his Eagle Scout award<<Your son was a Eagle Scout eh? I was a boy scout for a short while.>>, he will leave Basic at the rank of an E3. :)
I have very mixed feelings about this. <<All mothers do.>> While I'm extremely proud of his decision and proud of him, the "mom" side of me is dealing with the fear of him increasing his chances of being killed or hurt and the heartbreak of him leaving the nest. So, I do what most moms do... I sit in my bathroom and cry. <<Aw, poor Jan..*pats her back*>>
Looks like I'll be making a trip to San Antonio after he completes Basic (for his graduation). I don't mind, I have always loved San Antonio :)

Anna's home loan is moving right along and they are predicting that it will close by the end of this month. I will miss having Wacky Zachy here each day, but it's time for her to have her own place. She's been trying to move out on her own, but she's hit obstacles and delays with the home loan. Everything is fine now (that we know of) and hopefully I will be concerning myself with getting her and her furniture moved in just a few short weeks.<<Looks like your babies are leaving the nest. At times like this it's best to spend as much time with your kids as you can you know go out to a movie, a nice walk into the park, or, even mist a movie if you have the ability to. From now on you guys have to live for the moment.>>

I will be having an EGD on Thursday - scope thingy down my throat to look into my stomach. *sais* I'm starting the quest to cure the stomach problems again. I *almost* had it completed but was side tracked by the heart surgery. I think I've been afraid to continue the stomach treatment/cure because of that. I mean, geesh! the last time I tried to have stomach surgery I ended up with a quadruple heart bypass... what's going to happen this time... a brain tumor?? *falls over* ;) <<For god sakes I hope not.>>

Spacebabie(again)Has anyone every played �Eternal Darkness?� Its fun watching your character go insane but I really got a kick out of one of the lines that was said by a middle aged character.
�What sorcery is this?�
The boy had no idea why I was laughing. << Youth doesn't get anything these days and yes I have played Eternal Darkness. I picked up a copy while preordering the nexy Smackdown game.

DPH: My grandfather is dead. He died this afternoon.<<MY condolences.>>

Jan( again.)> - then I could beat you severely, throw rocks at you, shoot you, sic my dog on you, whatever means of getting you to leave<<Even releasing the tiger? *L* Sorry, MP humor. >> - I can legally do so. hehehe gaw, I love the Ozarks! ;)<<The Ozarks are fun.>>

Josh(Again)And we aren't immune to Virii over here on the mac side either. We just don't get attacked by them because a) no one cares<<I'll probaly have to shoot for a more than B. Since there are alot more PC users than Mac users out there. Especially in my Home town. *shudders.* >> and b) Mac apps aren't vulnerable to the same stupid exploits as windows (which isn't to say they don't have stupid exploits of their own - see the current Software Updater hubbub)<<sure.>>.

I guess I'm all caught up. *wipes forehead.*

IX9 - [ix9@devil.com]
From the, town of, Horror
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 01:14:09 AM
IP: 24.189.100.203

Jay> Flamebaiter. Current lives are just about the only thing constantly changing to provide enough fodder for a lively forum.

Fire Storm> <>: I'd say address spoofer using randomly gathered addresses. I've gotten Mail Undeliverable autoreplies for messages I never sent to people I don't know.

Spacebabie> <>: So I only have 7 inches on you instead of 8.

DPH> <<$*(&^%)*&)(>>: I prefer going in order from ! for my unprintables.

Toku Kai> <<Banner adds from servers other than your own, who's bandwidth is getting chewed assuming that you run the banner in its own frame?>>: I'd say the banner's host. The main page's macine should only be requested for a bit of text telling each reader's browser where to look for the image.
<<I'm also a big fan of forcing basics of grammar and speech before allowing a student to pass on to Literature and Poetry>>: for 6th through 9th grade, I had separate mandatory classes in Literature and LAnguage Arts.
<<I'd cut down to elective status on the more specialized courses like... Trigonometry, Calculus>>: Assuming a 50/50 split between right and left brainers, those are going to be required courses for half the population (assuming also college). Of course, Calc is already an elective in high school, I believe.

Zath> <>: Perhaps subconciously, but I belive they never noticed until it was too late.

JLA> <<pay teachers enough to make it a job worth having>>: Joke I heard: Teachers are paid too much. They do a job that we give to other children. So let's pay them a babysitter's wage. That's what, $5/hr on the low end? And they only go for 3/4 of the year, so let's only pay them for that. Wait, they have to deal with classes of 30 or so kids, so let's be nice and multiply that by the hourly wage. Ignoring time spent grading, correcting tests, and other after hours tasks, that's a yearly salary of ~$234,000. Nevermind.

Midget> Welcome. Please note the frequency of others' posts.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, July 10, 2002 01:01:49 AM
IP: 68.38.244.145

the only way *I* ever want to see "lance" in space is ejected as space junk.

good grief, spare me :P
lain
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 11:23:46 PM
IP: 65.92.88.216

<<My grandfather is dead. He died this afternoon.
DPH>>

I'm sorry. I send you my deepest heartfelt condolences. Mine died a week ago today. It seems to be that time for many peoples grandfathers. :-(

Stephanie"midger" - [midget_shadow@hotmail.com]
Conroe, Texas, USA
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 10:17:30 PM
IP: 64.12.101.157

Hi, sorry to interrupt you, but revel told me to stop by and say hi. Have any of you seen him today?
Stephanie "midget" - [midget_shadow@hotmail.com]
Conroe, Texas, USA
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 10:08:06 PM
IP: 64.12.101.157

*in*

DPH: this really seems to be the season for losing Grandfathers. my condolences. *sends condoling vibes*

Hey, how many people here are fans of Dylan P. Blacquiere's fanfic work?
Because...he's started writing again...

*stares in shock at the fanfic archive*
Lynati
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 10:04:01 PM
IP: 63.208.119.12

Coyote: Sorry, my bad. I'll use Greg's name for subscribing to sick porn sites in the future ;-)
Josh
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 07:12:56 PM
IP: 63.65.68.246

FS: Well, I think I found the possible source of my virus, at least ... it was messages I didn't even frickin' open with the subject line "pwrlevels." Both of them had hidden file attachments on them. Norton didn't destroy them, just quarantined them. Somehow these got past the hugely-powerful virus screens that my *server* has that apparently will block Yahoo! Groups mail at will but will let crap like this past.

The "pwrlevels" mail might be coming from more than one person, though, because I have it from three seperate senders. Additionally, I might add, I most nights wind up interrupting long IM's with Ravyn having to give the Norton firewall FS put up on my machine instructions to block the asshole hacker who seems to enjoy subscribing my address to every sick fetish porn site on the planet. :P
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 07:01:45 PM
IP: 216.234.96.192

ZATH - You're going to have to e-mail me directly over this one; that's what all recruits have to do at present.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 06:18:54 PM
IP: 65.56.170.133

Kaioto - Public Schooling: You want better public schools? Then you need to fire all the beauocrats, streamline the system, and pay teachers enough to make it a job worth having (and worth going through extra schooling for!). Apathy on the part of teachers is a huge problem, IMO.

I don't know about you, but I learned banking skills in 7th grade in Math. We created pretend companies, traded pretend stocks, learned how to balance a checkbook, write a check and the importance of savings. Do they not teach this anymore?

Government courses teaching law? Not sure I follow you there. Government is to learn about how the nation/state/city is run and the Constitution, not to pour out a ton of laws onto kids. I think what you want is like a "Criminal/Civil Justice" class but these laws change so often that it would cost a lot of money to keep the texts updated.
Ironically, I live in an agricultural community and we are on a year round school track. Even though there ARE crops to take care of.

At any rate, Kai, I am very pleased to see someone as young as you who doesn't have kids (YET!) concerned about this issue. :)
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 05:08:09 PM
IP: 216.249.101.64

Revel? You told me to drop by sometime and say hi...
midget - [midget_shadow@hotmail.com]
conroe, tx, usa
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 04:30:02 PM
IP: 64.12.96.138

Todd Jensen> <<since if we don't have a story, we don't have anything for the art staff to illustrate>> That's a very good point. If I helped with breakdowns (I don't know how useful I'd be, but I can give it a try), could I maybe do illustration work later?

Christine> <<sort of our own "smeg" (been re-watching all my RD tapes, yay!)>> I always thought "smeg" was just short for "smegma." <<if they're too well-shielded from all things violent and scary, they're in for a heck of a rude awakening>> That reminds me of two of my former roommates. They were like over-grown children with credit cards. Until living with them, I hadn't known that it was possible for anyone to reach adulthood (legal adulthood if not mental adulthood) and still be so na�ve.

Coyote> <<Now, with Ravyn on her way to Jersey ... tonight there's a wildfire going through St. John's Marsh, which isn't even five miles away from me>> When I was in Los Angeles, large chunks of southern California were (and probably still are) burning down all over the place. Now, I'm back east for a little while and apparently Canada is on fire and belching smoke down on us. **sigh**

Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 03:59:15 PM
IP: 63.74.90.238

Kai: 'This' long. Smart-assed comments aside, Mac OS X has its share of security flaws just like any other OS. The trick is Apple doesn't make an effort to hide them, doesn't sue people who reveal them, and fixes them as quickly as they can.

As for emulation, don't knock it until you've tried it on a dual processor machine. Yeah, some people can't afford them blah blah blah, but I did. I can run almost any windows program (games don't work well, but everything else does), any UNIX program in an X shell, and any mac program made for OS 7.5 or later. Emulation rocks. It may not be as fast as a Pentium 1.8 GHz, but the engineering calculation programs I use in Virtual PC are fast enough to be useable. For the mac, many "cool games and applications" are available, no emulation required. Just a port. And then there's my age old comment: "how many first person shooters do you really need?"

And we aren't immune to Virii over here on the mac side either. We just don't get attacked by them because a) no one cares and b) Mac apps aren't vulnerable to the same stupid exploits as windows (which isn't to say they don't have stupid exploits of their own - see the current Software Updater hubbub).

Now, that said, I sometimes wonder why people who don't *need* a PC (i.e. for a particular program) and complain about these problems haven't switched to Mac. Then I remember that I do my share of bitching too, so it all comes down to which problems you're willing to tolerate and which interface suits you better. Personally, the mac interface could degenerate into a 16-color POS and I still wouldn't trade it for all the Palladium-DRM-crap that M$ is planning for the future of Windows. Fortunately, right now my only complaint is that mail.app doesn't handle spam the way I'd like, but that's a program choice not a platform choice. And iTunes skips with airport on my dp800, but that's reportedly been fixed for Jag. Yay.

Leo: if you want a 128 MB Radeon 8500, then you can get one. At least I think its 128. I could be wrong. 8-)
Josh
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 03:52:12 PM
IP: 63.65.68.246

I realized I forget to mention one thing. What would have happenned to Goliath's clan if the Viking Massacre hadn't occurred at Castle Wyrvn?
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 03:38:59 PM
IP: 204.94.193.37

Anyone want to take a pool-bet on how long it takes Josh to make a smart-ass comment about the number of viri that work on the Mac OS 10? :)

I really hope this OSX thing gets a good chunk of 3rd party support. The only drawback I've ever seen for Unix-flavored systems is having to use emulation in order to get at many cool games and applications. That sort of defeats the purpose of the enhanced performance of a *nix box. But, I guess relative immunity to viri and not having your OS explode every time a program crashes is still worth it to many folks.

I have a random question for people out there in the know: Banner adds from servers other than your own, who's bandwidth is getting chewed assuming that you run the banner in its own frame? The main page host, the banner's host, or both?

Bleh, have to use the digital camera more liberally at the next Gathering, methinks.

Outrageous thought of the day: What sorts of curiculum changes would help improve the quality of public schooling?

I'm all for adding in some basic business and personal finance training. I think kids need to learn about advertising, where things they buy come from, how a bank works, the dangers of debt, what a stock is, and how important it is to save and budget their money.

I'm also a big fan of forcing basics of grammar and speech before allowing a student to pass on to Literature and Poetry. You don't get a fair chance in the job market of the world if your school didn't make you recognize that "ain't got none" and strings of explicatives aren't acceptable in most public settings, let alone professional ones.

It would be nice if our Government courses included information about Law as well. Basics of Philosophy including rational argument and logical proofs should be taught at the beginning of High School or the end of Middle School too.

I think I'd cut down to elective status on the more specialized courses like Current Events, non-Western civ, Trigonometry, Calculus, and advanced Literature.

Extending the school day or the school year might be helpful too. It isn't very logical to continue patterns based around farming when most of the population does not farm anymore.

Ah well, if I ruled the world we'd all be in deep trouble, I'm sure. :)
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 03:28:02 PM
IP: 208.204.155.241

MOONCAT - I'm as puzzled about it as you are.

DPH - Believe me, I've learned my lesson; pity that I had to do so the hard way.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 01:46:52 PM
IP: 65.57.57.235

Yo, that last post was by me. After DC deleted my post, I forgot to put my name and other vital information at the top.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 01:45:01 PM
IP: 204.94.193.74

*shoots DC repeatedly in a rapid fire manner with projected mental energy of depression*

That's for all the disconnects I have been having.

Todd - I told you so. Seriously, don't trust email attachements from ANYBODY unless the message makes sense. It's really easy to forge an email address and one forgery worked so well that I received an undelivered email note from yahoo email about an email I didn't receive.

To Everybody, thanks for the condolences. Actually, I discovered yesterday that the time of death was 10:09pm. I'll have to a week for the funeral home to try to contact my %$*$&*%^$%^$&$&&%$&$&$^&&$$&*$*(&^%)*&)(^#%^%^&(%^&*($%($%(($%^&*()(*&^%^&*()(*&^%$#$%^&*()*&^%$$%^&*())(*&^%^&*()(*&^% aunt. (Ok, here's why: In the event of a death, the order of who signs for funeral arrangements is the following: 1, children of the deceased; 2, parents of the deceased; 3, brothers or sisters of the deceased; 4, grandchildren of the deceased.)

now, where was I? (DC deleted this previous post)

Oh yea, now I remember. This is a burial plot ready for my grandfather, but there's a catch. It is owned by my aunt. On the other hand, it makes a great assett to be seized. You see, my grandparents sold some property a while back. WHen my $%(*^%****^%^*%^**^%*$356*(&))*#%$*)(*%^&*()^%&*()*^%#^&*()*&()(*%^&*()*%^&*()(*&%^&*()*&%^&*()*^%&*()%$r%&*()(*%&*()(%&*()%*()^%*()(^%&*()&*(^%&*()**&*()(^%&^%&*()*&^%^&*()*&%^^&*()^%^&*()*&^%&*()*&^%&*())*&^^&*()*&^%&*()&^%&*()(*&*()*&^%&*()(*&^%&*()^%&*()&*((*)&^%^&*()*%^&*((&^%^&*(()*&^%%^&*&*( aunt took of care, payments were still being received from the sell of that property. My brother estimates there is $20,000 of that money around that is unaccounted for. By law, my aunt could have only spent the money on my grandfather. Since I know that didn't happen, there's an inheritance to be found. My brother and I are entitled to $5000 apiece from that because of the will.

Spacebabie - <Now that sounds like a pretty good idea.> That is probably going to happen.

Sunday afternoon, my brother offered to take me to visit my grandfather one last time becasue we knew he had only hours to left. I didn't go because I didn't want to deal with the emotional pain. Monday, my brother and I traveled to check on funeral arrangements (I drove both of us in my car :-)) for my grandfather. That's where I found out the earlier information.

I was mad at my dad yesterday. While I was gone, he visited my house and left my front door wide open. When I talked to him about it, he didn't think it was that big of a deal.
Anonymous
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 01:43:56 PM
IP: 204.94.193.74

Todd -- e-mail? You should be able to download the program straight from the site. They don't e-mail it to you. The only e-mail I remember was maybe for registration?

The only problem I ever had with AVG was that it's so popular, sometime it's difficult to download because their server is overloaded with users. When I went to Windows XP, I had to wait a while to get the latest AVG because their server got overrun with people downloading.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 01:27:27 PM
IP: 68.102.1.42

I don't recall the e-mail address now; it was a while ago, and I deleted it in a hurry.

And I wound up having to reboot my whole computer again - in the process, I lost my entire e-mail archive (though fortunately, not my "favorites" section). Sigh.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 01:16:19 PM
IP: 65.56.168.98

Wilek: This is true. I forgot about that. Would explain the Jan one.

Ok, forget this... EVERYONE should get an anti-virus, even if it IS trialware! If it infected someone's address book, odds are that alot of other people in here have a virus too.

My link is the info on the virus that is most likely the cause. (From the Jan bounce back) (USA.NET scans e-mails for viruses and says what virus was in the e-mail, so that's where I got the info from)
Fire STorm - [<-- Info on WORM_KLEZ.G]
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 12:56:33 PM
IP: 216.254.103.139

FS> <<YOU recieved an e-mail virus from Lady Mystic?!?!?>> Maybe not FROM her, but it's very possible for her e-mail address to be in the From header. There are viruses capable of harvesting e-mail addresses that are linked to in the web page in a system's cache for the purpose of hiding their actual origin.

As for Jay...dude. Leave us alone and go back to selling pot and sublimating your desire to get it on with Silent Bob. (Oh wait, you can't be THAT Jay; he can't form big words like "endless". Sorry.)
Wilek
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 12:39:09 PM
IP: 128.241.245.34

Todd: LM wanted me to ask: Was it from her usual e-mail address? lady-mystic@usa.net

Everyone: Has anyone else recieved an e-mail from LM saying that what she sent contained a virus?
Fire Storm
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 12:37:48 PM
IP: 216.254.103.139

Aggghhhh I just measured myself I'm 5'7" the last I measured myself I was 21 and stood 5'6". I'm freaked!!!!

:::Runs through the room flipping Jay off in the process:::
Spacebabie
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 12:34:22 PM
IP: 67.25.50.103

Todd: YOU recieved an e-mail virus from Lady Mystic?!?!?
As her system administrator, I must sat... WTF?!?!?
Yeah, she has recieved a returned e-mail saying that she has a virus (bounced back From LM to Jan), but for the life of me, I can't figure out where this is coming from! Yeah, I get viruses when I am on IE, but Norton catches them and vapes them.
I scan her hard drive every night!
We both use NETSCAPE for mail! NETSCAPE! HOW THE FRELL DOES A VIRUS WORK IN NETSCAPE MESSANGER (4.7)?!?!?

Hmm... Coyote uses Netscape, I believe, but HE still sent a virus...
I dunno... I think someone sent viruses to people using LM's name... no clue why someone would do that...

Todd: The anti-virus people are usually very quick about it.
My link is for Symantec Norton Anti-virus trial ware
Fire Storm - [<--- Antivirus Trial]
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 12:34:13 PM
IP: 216.254.103.139

MOONCAT - Just how long does it take those anti-virus people that you mentioned to send me an e-mail? I filled out the form for a download, and still haven't received the necessary information from them yet.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 12:07:09 PM
IP: 63.208.47.241

Jay> Ahem?
Leo
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 11:44:22 AM
IP: 172.142.110.235

Didn't get to post last night, probably won't be for a while. And I'm at work so I'll keep it brief.

Jay: Bite me.

Christine: You can't be raising the most twisted girl on the planet, because that title already belongs to half of the girls I've dated. Which, oddly, is more than two girls 8-)
Josh
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 11:43:08 AM
IP: 63.65.68.246

id would just like to know why in gods name does every person here have to right there dam life story down when they leave a comment . any time i come to this site i end up looking through endless piles of bullplop writen in differnt color font its a pain in the ass you are all long winded losers
jay - [mindyurbisness.com]
ierlandTuesday, July 9, 2002 11:34:08 AM
IP: 62.254.123.125

Thanks, Mooncat. I went there and ordered a free download; so far, I haven't heard back from them by e-mail as yet, though. I hope that I do soon.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 11:13:23 AM
IP: 63.208.45.207

Todd --

two words. Antivirus Program.

Some of the major ones even have a free trial period. The best one I like is AVG, and it's completely free for a US user. Just go to www.grisoft.com It's the only one I use. I get over 50 e-mail groups/lists, and am on the net constantly on a daily basis. No virus problems since I got AVG.

DPH -- My sympathy for your loss.

Kathy -- rollercoasters, my one regret about VA was not being able to go to Busch Gardens with everyone on Monday. sigh... I adore rollercoasters.

okay, things to do, including my muchly belated Con Journal.

ciao
MC
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 10:17:19 AM
IP: 68.102.1.42

This is a request for help from those who are more computer-savvy than I am.

In early May of 2002, I received a blank e-mail with an attachment, purporting to come from Lady Mystic. Now, normally, I understand that opening attachments on mysterious e-mails is a bad idea, and avoid it. But I knew about Lady Mystic, and was so honestly bewildered about the blank e-mail that I forgot my customary caution and opened the attachment, resulting (apparently) in receiving a virus on my computer.

After the first warning signs appeared, I finally took the desperate step (a couple of days later) of re-installing my computer with a backup system, after which the signs of virus havoc disappeared. However, this morning, my WordPad program, which had been working fine up until now, suddenly stopped working; whenever I tried to open any document created by it (such as RTFs), the attempt failed, with a message saying "Could not create empty document". I'm quite worried by this, and wonder if the virus could be activating again, if it had survived the purge after all and is returning.

I need some advice on what to do about this, since apparently purging the system doesn't work. I don't think that I can afford to buy a new computer, so I need some definite suggestions for how to get rid of this virus, once and for all. Please help me out.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 08:34:18 AM
IP: 65.56.168.131

Chris > No other show in Greg Weisman's Gargoyles Universe has been produced for television. Therefore we can't give you channel or time information. Several of his spin off ideas have been incorporated into TGS (The Gargoyles Saga) the online and found only on this website, continuation of Gargoyles. The various series are mostly under hiatus although there is a new season of Timedancer in the works as we speak.

DPH > Condolences on your loss.

Christine > It would be nice if parents could find some kind of happy medium between total protection and complete exposure. After all, children do need some time of innocence other wise they become worldly beyond their years and scary.

And speaking of protecting us all from ourselves. How about that new attack on roller coasters? - click the link for more.
kathy
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 08:10:43 AM
IP: 66.32.113.200

GSide> ahhh ok! Since you were the one who mentioned the "brainwashing" then it's funny! :D

Josh> *chuckles* well here in the Ozarks, it's not against the law to defend your property. From my basic understanding of the trespassing laws here - if you were to come onto my property and then refused to leave (and I felt threatened) then I would be justified in using whatever force was necessary in removing you from my property. Of course, the best solution is to call the law enforcement but if that's not an option or the situation esculates before the deputies can arrive - then I could beat you severely, throw rocks at you, shoot you, sic my dog on you, whatever means of getting you to leave - I can legally do so. hehehe gaw, I love the Ozarks! ;)
Jan
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 08:08:55 AM
IP: 12.215.180.102

I have recently found out about other Gargoyle sagas such as Timedancer,pendragon and some others. I would like to know what time they come on tv, and what channel or station they come on.If anyone knows plz email me.
chris - [reptile35R@aol.com]
pasadena, md, usa
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 01:00:00 AM
IP: 205.188.192.162

yo.. im still alive!

too darned busy for my own good, is what! :P

i might have time to write a real post sometime this.. century? maybe?

.. maybe not

*zonks out*
lain
Tuesday, July 9, 2002 12:50:47 AM
IP: 65.92.88.105

I think I've found that punnish name. Lu Tai.

Jan> <>: Actually, I was the one to suggest the brainwashing. Mostly as a joke about the concious states of schoolchildren in the morning and the use of sleep deprivation among brainwashing techniques.

DPH> My condolences about your grandfather.

Fire Storm> <<Oh, won't someone think of the hamsters!>>: Well, there is Mighty Mighty Hamster, and TWLH, but they don't get involved in the things to which Wilek objects much.

Imzadi> <<Get a car you slacker bum>>: Don't need one at school, don't get out much at home, Jersey insurance is pretty bad.
<<Dis>>: I can more than handle it. Besides, I did ask for it.
<<Updating firmware bites>>: Never actually got the firmware update to work. Just needed some updated DLLs to recognize my brand.
<<If that were the case it wouldn't be an *update*>>: The floppy was an update to 3.5c. The CD has 3.2. I needed something else.
<<What, do you live in the south? Only there can they make laws about what you do in bed>>: The psychcs were complaining about public indecency.
<>: And boy do you need it. I mean, 9.4=g? 2e8=c?
<<Abusing them how, exactly?>>: Quantitativly. I can regularly hit footlong.
<<We use "Ted">>: Ah. But you do know about the Life commercial?
<<At what point does a toy become the a partner?>>: Desire to be used?

Spacebabie> <<Typical>>: Hey, we're engineers.
<<Now I�m afraid�very afraid>>: Evil laugh redux.

SRS Jr.> <<I'm NOT making another magazine to replace Avalon Mists>>: It's not you, it's a joke about Sevarius Jr.

NA zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, July 8, 2002 11:30:47 PM
IP: 68.38.244.145

Okay, you want to talk about duality in a relationship?

For a few weeks, we've heard about the Show Low fire in Arizona ... haven't heard quite as much about it in recent days, but I haven't heard anything about it being extinguished.

Now, with Ravyn on her way to Jersey ... tonight there's a wildfire going through St. John's Marsh, which isn't even five miles away from me. Fortunately enough, there's a limit to how much can burn there (unless it starts consuming homes), and no less than seven fire companies are working to put it out.

But it's still freaky.
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan, getting really toasty right now
Monday, July 8, 2002 11:15:10 PM
IP: 216.234.126.84

Greetings all...

Just delurking from a still-busy schedule... just have to answer a couple of questions:

CHRISTINE - RE: "Frell"... that's actually a curse word generated by Rockne S. O'Bannon's "FARSCAPE". The characters use in in place of Damn, and other colorful swear words. I think it's actually a amaglam of "Frickin' Hell!" but that's my theory.

RE: AVALON MISTS - Okay, just so that there's no further misconception on this...

For Starters, I'm NOT making another magazine to replace Avalon Mists. I'm working on a brand new issue of Avalon Mists, but the problems have been the lack of response from the server admins in Gargoyles-fans.org on the switchover of the server account access from Christine to me.

The Good news now is that I've been told the account is switched, and just a couple of pieces need to get into place, and I'll start getting the new issue into place. For the moment, the OFFICAL (and I mean this now) release date for the new Avalon Mists is August 1st.

Looking forward to get this in place and running. More to report later. ^_^

MAintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [ssobotka33616@yahoo.com]
Tampa Bay, FL, USA
Monday, July 8, 2002 09:47:50 PM
IP: 65.35.132.45

Christine>> "Frell" is the swear of choice for the crew of the sci fi show "Farscape". Very smeggish, only not as comedic.
Archwolf
Monday, July 8, 2002 09:47:34 PM
IP: 209.161.82.190

DPH > condolences to you and your family on your loss.

Spacebabie > <<When the frell is that coming out anyways?>> Frelled if I know ... that's the Other Gang of Idiots department ; )

Out of curiosity, is "frell" unique to this room, sort of our own "smeg" (been re-watching all my RD tapes, yay!) or did it come from elsewhere? Word Origins for 300, please, Alex ...

Josh > I guess I have a hard time understanding those parents who so diligently want to shelter their kids. A measure of that is good, but if they're too well-shielded from all things violent and scary, they're in for a heck of a rude awakening. Then again, given that I'm raising probably the most warped little girl on the face of the planet, I guess I shouldn't talk ; )

Black Roses update > it's now looking like the audio version *may* be ready in August. And my editor at RAP just sent me an e-mail to the effect that they're ready to start talking contract for a print version. Given the swiftness of RAP, it'll be funny to see which comes out first.

Site update > didn't work out as planned; I spent the whole day wrestling with a synopsis (have I mentioned I hate that part of the process?) and a soul-baring letter to my mom about some tough family issues. Was just too warn out, and I had to go back to work last night after a blissful two weeks off. Will hopefully get it done today or tomorrow, but Thursday's looking like the better bet.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Monday, July 8, 2002 08:39:35 PM
IP: 65.239.47.142

LEO - Todd:<<pretty much discourages the more "over-the-top" concepts>> Such as the implied lesbianism in "Buccaneers," from Time Dancer season 1, between Captain Mallory and her "sister"? ;)>>

Well, that wasn't one of my ideas. (And it caused a real to-do when it was proposed).

<<Recruitment for "Pendragon" writing and breakdowns>> I'm usually slow when it comes to writing, but possibly interested in editing (one of the reasons I take so long writing.) >>

Thanks, but our real concern is Breakdowns; so far, we've had a scarcity of people actually pitching in on working on the outlines for stories, season arcs, etc. Usually, it winds up being a case of somebody (often me) writing an outline, presenting it to the rest of the list, and then the place becomes so silent that you can practically hear the crickets chirping.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, July 8, 2002 07:43:51 PM
IP: 63.208.63.150

*Leo comes back in, slaps himself*
Why didn't I just leave the post page open so I could post everything at once?
------------------------
Continued from Monday, July 8, 2002 06:32:24 PM...

Replies Contd.:

Josh:<<Had to take another practice GRE>> My "advisor" told menot to bother with GREs since (according to him) most grad schools now give their own "specialized" enterance exams.

DPH: I'm sorry about your grandfather. It's good that you had time to prepare.

Todd:<<pretty much discourages the more "over-the-top" concepts>> Such as the implied lesbianism in "Buccaneers," from Time Dancer season 1, between Captain Mallory and her "sister"? ;)<<Recruitment for "Pendragon" writing and breakdowns>> I'm usually slow when it comes to writing, but possibly interested in editing (one of the reasons I take so long writing.)

Spacebabie:<<�What sorcery is this?�>>any other references, from other movies? I remember the "Duke Nukem" series had lines from "Army of Darkness" like:"Who wants some!," "Groovy!!" and "Hail to the king baby!"
<<There are three cars on our property. We cannot fit another one>> No room in garage for at least one of those cars?
When are you gonna start scanning and posting YOUR gathering pics? ;P

Leo - [Lk23693@aol.com]
Monday, July 8, 2002 07:37:47 PM
IP: 172.147.175.182

Jan: Its nice to know there are still some places where you can shoot a guy trying to rob you and not be sued 8-)

Sadly, CA is not one of those places.
Josh
Monday, July 8, 2002 07:08:49 PM
IP: 63.65.68.246

*Self Promo*

BIG update to my site this time around. I've got first and foremost 25 GATHERING 2002 pics. Forgot my good camera so only had one, one time use camera. In addtion I've got a new story up, some sketch book art and two shorts I wrote. So take the tiem to check it all out, because, well we all like pictures and stuff to talk about.

*END*

Aaron- Hey is any of that major flood occuring near you, if I remember correctly you are on the north side but jsut concened for you bro.

Revel - [<<---------Click!!]
the bayou city, tx
Monday, July 8, 2002 07:07:01 PM
IP: 172.137.21.160

ZATH - The request is for people to work on Writing and Breakdowns (especially the latter, since we're short on that department). They're the top priority, since if we don't have a story, we don't have anything for the art staff to illustrate.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, July 8, 2002 06:36:34 PM
IP: 63.208.63.150

DPH> I'm very sorry for the loss of your Grandfather. *hugs*

The link I've attached is something that happened 45 miles from here, just over the county line. This story cracks me up!
Jan - [<---- Ozark gals are almost as tough as Texas gals ;)]
Monday, July 8, 2002 06:32:57 PM
IP: 12.215.180.102

My parents are in the paperwork stages of remodeling the kitchen and laundry room. I'm sort of introducing the contractor to CAD programs like "Chief Architect 8" and "3D Home." He still draws by hand but wants to start learning the software. I'm also honing my Photoshop skills by creating "virtual photos" of what the kitchen would look like with different cabinets and countertops (Taking a digital photo of a door sample and superimposing multiple copies of the door on a digital photo of the existing cabinets). It seemed like fun when I came up with the idea but after 5 different samples, I'm sick of it.
Mother: "I just brought home a new door sample, could you please, pretty please, make another digital photo for me? I have to return it tomorrow."

This is the price I pay for still living with my family (although I'm sure she'd ask if I didn't still live here)
*sigh*

Replies:

Josh:<<a 128 MB GeForce4 is a 128 MB GeForce4, no?> But what if I want a 128 MB ATI All-In-Wonder RADEON 8500?<<That's 1920x1200 pixels of flatscreen love!>> Nooo comment.

Crap! have to go eat with my *family*.:P Finish replies after.

Leo
Yorktown, Va
Monday, July 8, 2002 06:32:24 PM
IP: 172.135.137.213

DPH I know your pain. Mine died about six months ago from cancer. He died the day after my GCSE results came in.
Silverbolt
Monday, July 8, 2002 05:22:09 PM
IP: 213.1.112.85

** momentarily delurks **

Todd Jensen> <<TGS recruitment>> Is the recruitment drive only for breakdowns/writing, or do you need more people to do illustration work too?

** relurks **
Zath - [zath@rocketmail.com]
Monday, July 8, 2002 05:11:42 PM
IP: 63.74.90.93

Spacebabie: <Nice Frell, but what happened to the dern lot boys?>
Well, it appears that they haven't taken any vacation time in the 10 years they have been working for me and the government found out, and long story short, in order to avoid any fines or jail time, I had to give them three months off.
Sucks, eh?
Fire Storm
Monday, July 8, 2002 12:06:46 PM
IP: 216.254.103.139

Has anyone every played �Eternal Darkness?� Its fun watching your character go insane but I really got a kick out of one of the lines that was said by a middle aged character.
�What sorcery is this?�
The boy had no idea why I was laughing.

Did the mall thing instead of the movie. Mom needed a trifle dish. She has all the ingredients for a trifle but not the dish. She also wanted some coffee from Barney�s�yum. My main reason to go was to pick up some stuff from Bath and Body works, well they were renovating.
Frell!

We went to Sephora and checked out the Urban Decay products, Mom did find the right shade of gloss but there was a shade of shadow that I wanted. It�s called �Shattered.� and it�s Demona blue.. Guess what. They were out of it.

Double Frell!

I found the 12 months of Disney pins display with no problem at the Disney store. Guess wich one they didn�t have? Yup you were right. They didn�t have a topaz Pooh birthstone pin either.

Triple Frell! I did pick up a cute and fluffy Stitch stuffed animal.

Also bought some green tea, its good with honey, Lain ((Not the CR Lain.. Serial Experiments Lain)), and a coat for winter.

The coat is faux leather, lined with faux fur. Did I mention its also a trench? It was also under 25 dollars so it was a good deal, except when I wear it with my red hat I look like the female version of Huggy Bear.

Oooh Serial Experiments Lain is, well strange. The opening theme sounds like a song that they would play at the Bronze.

Trifle turned out yoummy. The boy didn't like it cause the pundcake was sokaed in melon liqure.

Christine<<<After all, I'm sure that he's already hard at work on his own 'zine to replace AvMists>>>When the frell is that coming out anyways?

Gside<<<Sure that would be enough?>>>Yup<<<Mostly he was just being picky>>>Typical<<<Evil laugh.>>>Now I�m afraid�very afraid.

Jan<<<being sarcastic.>>>When isn�t he being sarcastic?<<>>Zach is already wacky? He�s coming along nicely.

DPH<<<What if TGS simply agreed to keep the rest of the world up to date if how progress on Timedancer Season 4 was coming? Little things like knowing when 2-3 more stories were in final version? >>>Now that sounds like a pretty good idea. Sorry about your grandfather. I know its hard to loose someone. HUGGGGGGGGGGGG

Firestorm>>> Nice Frell, but what happened to the dern lot boys?

Josh<<<it was at Santa Clara University, so I managed to get some good eye candy >>>So they keep all the pretty lesbians there and send the ugly ones to Berkley and Greg�s bookstore?<<<My vocab just isn't what it used to be, probably because I've been mumbling in numbers for the last three years.>>>You poor simple young man. You are nable to express yourself without using minor words now can you? Oh I guess I�m going to have to send you one of those word a day calendars for your birthday. I�ll see if there is a playboy version.<<<Get a car you slacker bum>>>Now this is the pickle. There are three cars on our property. We cannot fit another one. Yes I need to get my own place, but how can I get there with out a car?<<<He's already in a loin cloth.>>>I want that loin cloth gone.<<<Obviously you haven't been using your virgins correctly.>>>Once I can�t summon unicorns any more then will other virgins be fun.<<<Basically, engineers consider something small relative to something else if its about 1/100 or less. >>>Wow that actually made sense.<<<Worthless.>>>You should have seen some these guys. For example Emambu looks like AJ from Empire Records and can do a pretty mean Eddie Izzard.<<<I'm sure you'll be waiting for *everyone* to leave the house now>>>Stay out of my mind. You may get dirty.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, USA
Monday, July 8, 2002 11:04:37 AM
IP: 64.156.211.46

DPH - I'm sorry to hear about your loss.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, July 8, 2002 08:01:25 AM
IP: 67.28.95.119

Got back from Berkeley last night at around 1AM. Driving for an hour when you're tired is not a good idea. More LSAT prep today. 3 hours...ugh. On the plus side, it was at Santa Clara University, so I managed to get some good eye candy 8-) And the teacher is pretty good. Knows his stuff and reasonably funny. I also noticed that I did fairly well on the practice LSAT. 75th percentile. Not *good*, but any standard, but then again that's why I'm taking the class.

I also had to drive to work because its the only place where I get free, stable, high-speed net access. Had to take another practice GRE. I did much better on this one (see what happens when I actually use a calculator on the math section), but my verbal score dropped. My vocab just isn't what it used to be, probably because I've been mumbling in numbers for the last three years. Well, that's what the tutoring is for.

Vashdoka: <<Damn my slow typing>>: The only solution is to spend even MORE time on the computer 8-)

Warpmind: <<there are *more* configurations for PCs than for Macs, last I checked>>: True, but I often wonder how important that is. I mean, a 128 MB GeForce4 is a 128 MB GeForce4, no? <<PCs don't suffer from those all-in-one solutions that look like a shrunken VW New Beetle>>: Dude, that's just one product line. <<Don't mind my bias against Macs. I'm a gamer>>: I saw the most beautiful thing the other day: Warcraft III running at *native* resolution on the 23" Cinema HD Display. That's 1920x1200 pixels of flatscreen love!

Todd: <<pretty much discourages the more "over-the-top" concepts (such as heavy sexual themes>>: Oh, bullplop. I've seen some pretty overt innuendo. <<So orgy scenes, say, are strictly out of the question>>: SJ just lost all interest. <>: But you're such a sleeze!

Lain: <<THAT was the slowest top ten ive ever seen>>: Some of us don't like to wake up early.

Spacebabie: <<I�m going to see if I can convince the maternal unit to go to the mall so I can stop by the Disney store>>: Get a car you slacker bum. <<I�ll use a fork lift>>: Dis. <<Now how much of that is spent on actual work?>>: Less. <<Okay Brooklyn naked>>: He's already in a loin cloth. <<con virgins are more fun>>: Obviously you haven't been using your virgins correctly. <<Confusion bubbles float behind Spacey�s head:::I hate math>>: Basically, engineers consider something small relative to something else if its about 1/100 or less. <<Cause I was looking at guys>>: Worthless. <<So you are thinking about Mojo Jojo>>: Aren't we all? <>: I'm sure you'll be waiting for *everyone* to leave the house now 8-) <<what is funnier the perves or that uberprude woman>>: Uberprudes are always funnier.

Jan: <>: I think I'd expect *some* measure of subtle innuendo, though perhaps not sexual.

Christine: I saw powerpuff girls with my roommate. We both laughed our butts off. <<Says it's too violent>>: There's a whole generation of parents out there that think children should never be exposed to violence. Sucks for us kids.

Gside: <<My CDRW is fixed. Just had to download a couple updates>>: I hate when that happens. Updating firmware bites. <<Thought I already had them all on a floppy included with it.>>: If that were the case it wouldn't be an *update*. <>: What, do you live in the south? Only there can they make laws about what you do in bed. <<That is why you have been calling me incessantly, right?>>: No. I call you for help on my homework. <<How much does it cost to get to Florida?>>: Depends on the method and time of year. <>: Abusing them how, exactly? <<Everyone is Mikey under the right circumstances>>: We use "Ted". <<convincing females to get nearer too me? You might be stretching it>>: I dunno, some women are very maleable. <<wishful thinking doesn't hurt. I think>>: Letdowns can get pretty painful. <<The controlers are just sextoys>>: At what point does a toy become the a partner? <<Sure that would be enough?>>: I've seen some pretty powerful forklifts.

Jan: <>: What I think is that the pledge is surprisingly fascist. No other free countries have such a thing. Its one thing to sing the national anthem at a ballgame, its quite another to institute it in public schools. <<It has got to be one of the most lame reasons I've heard yet over this particular issue>>: You're missing my point. I don't take issue with the pledge being recited in schools. I take issue with the under god thing. Has nothing to do with brainwashing (well, sorta, just subtly). <<Michael has decided to enlist in the Air Force>>: Congrats! I wish him the best of luck for doing what I never had the guts to do. So will he ever be a pilot? Or just a bombjockey? ;-) <<the last time I tried to have stomach surgery I ended up with a quadruple heart bypass... what's going to happen this time... a brain tumor??>>: Don't you die on us!

DPH: <<My grandfather is dead. He died this afternoon>>: My condolences.

Being a Linux user is sort of like living in a house inhabited by a large family of carpenters and architects. Every morning when you wake up, the house is a little different. Maybe there is a new turret, or some walls have moved. Or perhaps someone has temporarily removed the floor under your bed.
-Unix for Dummies, 2nd Edition

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
San Jose, CA, US of A
Monday, July 8, 2002 01:22:21 AM
IP: 207.214.213.95

DPH> You have my prayers, dude. God bless.

Leo> nice pics! And the greg head thing IS scary.
(heheheh, I'm the fuzzy one >:]).

Jan> Maybe you can arrange take-care times with your daughter for Zach. My mom has arranged with my sister take-care times for my nephew; only problem is, is that my mom and grandma spend a lot more time with him than his mother. :( not good.

RL> After looking around, I think I found a good church. Mennonites. I went to a service tonight, and I was really impressed and thouroughly agreed with and enjoyed the sermon (which was done by a woman).
Gabriel "gaygoyle"
Monday, July 8, 2002 01:12:17 AM
IP: 24.219.165.75

[comes out of lurking, hugs DPH and whispers condolences, mutters unkind things about the quebecois forest fire smoke that's hazing up philly, then relurks]
Daphne
Monday, July 8, 2002 12:40:57 AM
IP: 67.242.18.6

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Fire Storm
Monday, July 8, 2002 12:32:30 AM
IP: 216.254.103.139

Gside: <Oh, and who are you going to horribly mutilate? Buxom Gal? Topless Las? Jiggly Jill?>
Oh, won't someone think of the hamsters!

DPH: <My grandfather is dead. He died this afternoon.>
I am SO sorry to hear that! My condolences...
Anonymous
Monday, July 8, 2002 12:32:08 AM
IP: 216.254.103.139

I've just added more pics to my site, not just costumes.
Includes pics of both Gregs, pics from the Radio Play and the Dealers Room.

"Crazy Demona":<<O.O Those disembodied Greg heads are sorta scary. O.O>>Take a look at them now. I love animated .gif's. MWOooHOoHAaHAaHAaHAaaaaa........

Leo - [<-New Pics!]
Yorktown, Va
Monday, July 8, 2002 12:13:23 AM
IP: 172.165.70.194

My grandfather is dead. He died this afternoon.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, July 8, 2002 12:10:38 AM
IP: 204.94.193.78

Kathy - <No, there's a difference between active and passive suffering. The people at the shelter do their best to alleviate passive suffering. But you are doing nothing to end this kitten's active pain. So to me that's a big honking difference.> I can't do nothing for said kitten if it makes itself hard/impossible to find.

Imzadi - <Really depressing, what if he's waiting for someone that is, uh, permanently detained?> That's something to consider and highly probable.

Todd - <This, by the way, is (we hope) something of a lesson to our potential future recruits: if you join TGS, you really have to make a commitment to it. It's not something that you can just walk away from after you get bored with it a couple of days into it. Leaving it because you've got a lot of RL responsibilities is perfectly all right and commendable. Leaving it just because of a lack of interest in sticking it out isn't.> And if you decide to leave, let people know. <Almost everybody who signed up left without telling anyone - just deserted without any sense of commitment to the project. So that leaves us with pretty much the same staff size as it was before the recruitment drive.> I can count the number of people on one hand who joined when I did and stayed.

Lain - <don't just join cos you want the spoilers.> Yes, joining TGS staff involves work and people need to know that. <well.. THAT was the slowest top ten ive ever seen.> Actually, this was at the pace of the other CR.

PKBitchGirl - What if TGS simply agreed to keep the rest of the world up to date if how progress on Timedancer Season 4 was coming? Little things like knowing when 2-3 more stories were in final version?

DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, July 7, 2002 11:42:51 PM
IP: 204.94.193.78

Josh> <<<<If you can brainwash kids to be patriotic, the sky's the limit>>: I can't believe that you actually think that because it's part of the morning activities in school for the Pledge of Alligence kids are being "brainwashed". I've heard a few others spew this garbage and I certainly didn't expect it from you. It has got to be one of the most lame reasons I've heard yet over this particular issue... grasping at straws.
I hope that you were making a joke and I just didn't realize that you were kidding around or being sarcastic.

My son, Michael has decided to enlist in the Air Force. He has already talked to the recruiter, taken the military test (scored perfect in all 5 categories), turned in his paperwork, and will be going to Kansas City for MEPS on Tuesday for his physical and to select the area in which he wants to enter. Because of his Eagle Scout award, he will leave Basic at the rank of an E3. :)
I have very mixed feelings about this. While I'm extremely proud of his decision and proud of him, the "mom" side of me is dealing with the fear of him increasing his chances of being killed or hurt and the heartbreak of him leaving the nest. So, I do what most moms do... I sit in my bathroom and cry.
Looks like I'll be making a trip to San Antonio after he completes Basic (for his graduation). I don't mind, I have always loved San Antonio :)
Anna's home loan is moving right along and they are predicting that it will close by the end of this month. I will miss having Wacky Zachy here each day, but it's time for her to have her own place. She's been trying to move out on her own, but she's hit obstacles and delays with the home loan. Everything is fine now (that we know of) and hopefully I will be concerning myself with getting her and her furniture moved in just a few short weeks.

I will be having an EGD on Thursday - scope thingy down my throat to look into my stomach. *sais* I'm starting the quest to cure the stomach problems again. I *almost* had it completed but was side tracked by the heart surgery. I think I've been afraid to continue the stomach treatment/cure because of that. I mean, geesh! the last time I tried to have stomach surgery I ended up with a quadruple heart bypass... what's going to happen this time... a brain tumor?? *falls over* ;)

to bed to bed... we currently have 39 inmates with a comfortable capacity of 25. O_o Busy week ahead of me....
Jan
Sunday, July 7, 2002 11:32:40 PM
IP: 12.215.180.102

My CDRW is fixed. Just had to download a couple updates. Thought I already had them all on a floppy included with it.

Imzadi> <<That's sleeping naked time if I've ever heard it>>: I might if it weren't for that court order.
<<Which sucker would sign up for that job?>>: That is why you have been calling me incessantly, right?
<>: Well, vibrators are reusable unlike the first threee, and easier to clean than allegely half of the last.
<<Spacebabies clothes might fit you>>: Well then. How much does it cost to get to Florida?
<<??>>: At Rutgers, I am infamous for abusing the self serve soft serve machines at the diniing hall.
<<But he didn't ask mikey>>: Everyone is Mikey under the right circumstances.
<<If you can brainwash kids to be patriotic, the sky's the limit>>: Good point. But still, convincing females to get nearer too me? You might be stretching it.
<<With both of us on the other side of the country, that's some wishful thinking>>: But wishful thinking doesn't hurt. I think.
<<Wouldn't that be a foursome?>>: Nah. The controlers are just sextoys.

Wilek> <<Now who needs licking?>>: Yo. Well, not from you.
<<Who is the room's most knowledgable Supermegatopia fan?>>: I believe I have read the entire website, with the exception of the forums. If you want to try me, go ahead. Oh, and who are you going to horribly mutilate? Buxom Gal? Topless Las? Jiggly Jill?

Warpmind> <<Um, no tips, thanks>>: Are you absolutely sure?
<<maybe if Wilek has any ideas>>: And apparently, he does.

Spacebabie> <<I�ll use a fork lift>>: Sure that would be enough?
<<:::Confusion bubbles float behind Spacey�s head:::I hate math>>: Mostly he was just being picky, but orders of magnitude are essentially how many numbers it takes to write it out (ignoring leading zeros xor decimals).
<>: Evil laugh.

And a bit of Yoko Kanno for the mp3. Go Go Cactus Man, from Cowboy Bebop. Next time, I'll get around to the inspiration for that one.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, July 7, 2002 10:37:39 PM
IP: 68.38.244.145

JAN - Ah, yes, thanks for correcting me on that. (I don't like orgy scenes myself, either).

SEVARIUS JR. - My apologies over that line. It certainly wasn't the best example to use.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, July 7, 2002 06:35:44 PM
IP: 67.28.90.112

Zombie news > well, alas, my story didn't win the Origins Award. The other zombie story from the same anthology did. Still a coup for Team Zombie, and it's still a kick to have been nominated. Now I just have to decide which idea to go with for the sequel!

Gathering > thanks again to those who keep posting tales and pics!

I should have a site update coming soon, hopefully today. Got some new art to add to the Gallery. But first, must write a synopsis of Changeling Moon. I hate this part. Never was any good at outlines.

SJ and TGS > just make sure that he doesn't get loaded down with too many assignments. After all, I'm sure that he's already hard at work on his own 'zine to replace AvMists. Musn't overwork the fellow. ;)

PowerPuff Girls > anyone else seen the movie yet? We loved it, had a grand time. I can't imagine why my cousin won't let her kid watch the show. Says it's too violent. Honestly. Wherever would she get such an idea? <g> Though really, the best part was probably the Harry Potter preview.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, July 7, 2002 03:21:53 PM
IP: 65.239.47.43

Lynati> *waves hand in the air, jumping up and down* Pre-registration!! Make that 3!! :)

Todd> <<(such as heavy sexual themes).... So orgy scenes, say, are strictly out of the question.>>
ummmmm?? SJ is quite outspoken about his personal views on these type of fics. i.e. he doesn't like them and thinks that they are a waste of space, engery, and braincells.
Forgive me, SJ for speaking on your behalf - I know that you are more than capable of speaking for yourself ;)
But no... I don't think that you have anything to worry about him attempting to insert inappropriate material into the TGS. In fact, I think he would bring an element of excitement, fresh, and creative ideas to the staff. Heck, I might even start reading them if SJ is on staff! :)

Hey! more pictures! More journals! =)

Jan
Sunday, July 7, 2002 03:01:44 PM
IP: 12.215.180.102

*leans in*

Josh: THANKS.

Gunjack: email is fine, if you actually respond to them this time. within four months, I mean.

Aaron: Did the flooding affect you at all?

Greg B: slight delay in plans...I didn't get to NY until an hour ago, instead of last week. I'll be in touch.
Oh, and I have at least two people here who want to pre-reg.

*out*
Lynati
NY, NY
Sunday, July 7, 2002 02:39:26 PM
IP: 65.59.96.133

Leo - O.O Those disembodied Greg heads are sorta scary. O.O
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Sunday, July 7, 2002 01:59:31 PM
IP: 216.249.101.133

Going to the movies today. I�m going to see if I can convince the maternal unit to go to the mall so I can stop by the Disney store.

Replies

Lain>>> I've seen slower

Bronx>>>Uh Hi.
Warpmind<<<I'm sure I would make an adorable Chibi.>>>You defiantly would.<<<And rub all you like. };)>>>No problem there.

Gside<<<But remember, I am 220/230 pounds>>>I�ll use a fork lift.

Josh<<>>Now how much of that is spent on actual work?<<<Think happy thoughts>>>Okay Brooklyn naked.<<>>but con virgins are more fun<<<No, its small*er*. A factor of 1/3 is not considered "small". Usually an order or two of magnitude is "small". >>>:::Confusion bubbles float behind Spacey�s head:::I hate math<<<Everything? Even Alaska?>>>People assosiate Texas with big, Alaska is..well Cold.<<<Careful, though, he might like that.>>>I bet he would.<<<Well why not!? >>>Cause I was looking at guys.

IX9<<<Ahh. Another DB fan.>>>My brother downloaded that scene als the scene where Goku steals Bulma�s pantys

Niahmgold<<<Well...concerning bananas, it'd be monkeys.>>>So you are thinking about Mojo Jojo?

SJ<<<It's a rather unique way of using the old Gamecube controller>>>I have to wait for my brother to leave the house before I play with his game cube.<<<The board comments are priceless,>>>I don�t know what is funnier the perves or that uberprude woman.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl, U.S.a
Sunday, July 7, 2002 10:05:43 AM
IP: 67.25.55.75

*waves hi*
Bronx - [BronxWyvern4@aol.com]
Sunday, July 7, 2002 09:25:54 AM
IP: 205.188.198.167

well.. THAT was the slowest top ten ive ever seen.........
lain
Sunday, July 7, 2002 08:19:03 AM
IP: 65.92.88.105

Yawns
Tenth?
Spacebabie
Sunday, July 7, 2002 07:42:18 AM
IP: 67.25.55.75

9th?
Leo
Sunday, July 7, 2002 07:24:04 AM
IP: 172.156.155.184

SEVARIUS JR. - Well, actually, the way that the Pendragon recruiting procedure functions at present is this: volunteers e-mail me and let me know that they're interested in working for "Pendragon". I forward their request to the list (which, preferably, should include the qualifications for the job - information on where to find previous writing of the applicant and his or her specialties and knowledge concerning this and that are particularly helpful), and we decide whether to accept.

Keep in mind that if you do join TGS, you might want to put your wilder ideas on a leash; we've got a S&P system that pretty much discourages the more "over-the-top" concepts (such as heavy sexual themes). Our goal is to (as much as we can) keep the series to the level of the original television series in terms of what's acceptable for S&P and what isn't. So orgy scenes, say, are strictly out of the question.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, July 7, 2002 06:56:35 AM
IP: 63.208.40.220

LAIN - Thanks for your post; it is indeed a very accurate account of just how things have been at TGS lately. I'm hoping that this will explain what our current position is to our audience. (And again, as I said, I also hope that our new recruits will understand the importance of commitment to the project).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, July 7, 2002 06:25:23 AM
IP: 63.208.40.220

*Warpmind strolls in, whistling cheerfully.*
Hi, gang. I'm seventh, by the looks of it. :)

Christine: Righto. Look forward to seeing'em in print whenever. :)

Gside: Um, no tips, thanks. Well, maybe if Wilek has any ideas, but... }:)

Josh: What I mean is that there are *more* configurations for PCs than for Macs, last I checked. Especially since PCs don't suffer from those all-in-one solutions that look like a shrunken VW New Beetle. };) (Don't mind my bias against Macs. I'm a gamer.) };)

SJ: That's... hilarious! :)

Well, that about ends this post. If you'll excuse me, I shall go do Funky Stuff to the computer. Involving a lot of... *gasp* typing. *Grins and fades*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, July 7, 2002 04:08:38 AM
IP: 193.217.216.189

Imzy-wimzy> <<Which sucker would sign up for that job?>> Licking? Oh I have something in mind. [Wilek sounds a low note on a ghastly little flute, and *something* visits the CR, looking like a dehydrated Predator corpse, swinging in using a long, stretchy, movie-Toad type tongue with a xenomorphic secondary jaw. Upon arriving, the critter spies Mr. Disconnect and, quick as a whip, uses its tongue to reduce his head to a crater.] Now who needs licking?

Oh, and the point of this post: Who is the room's most knowledgable Supermegatopia fan? I need some help, preferably over e-mail, for a project. Thankee.
Wilek
Sunday, July 7, 2002 03:47:13 AM
IP: 128.241.245.34

Fifth! Whoo my first top ten!
IX9 - [ix9@devil.com]
Sunday, July 7, 2002 03:29:32 AM
IP: 63.164.145.33

FOURTH!

We have today off together! So... We're celebrating!
Lady Mystic and Fire Storm
Sunday, July 7, 2002 03:10:20 AM
IP: 216.254.103.139

Don't usually post here, but just for the heck of it....

Second! Or maybe third by now. Damn my slow typing.
Vashkoda
Sunday, July 7, 2002 02:50:32 AM
IP: 129.98.123.136

Good god that was nerve-wracking! I took a mock LSAT at 9AM today. 5 sections, 25 questions in 35 minutes for each one. I'm amazed that I was able to finish *most* of the sections. It was really tough too. Well, I'm glad I'm taking the prep course! And fortunately I never have to drive to Palo Alto again 8-)

Drove up to Berkeley to unload/load stuff between apartments and took a practice GRE while I was at it. Didn't do so well. Of course, I rushed like no one's business and didn't have a calculator, so that helps somewhat. But I'll have to start doing vocab reviews, etc.

IX9: <<what do you think of Mac OS X?>>: I love it. Compared to OS 9...well, there is no comparison. Its superior in every way, unless you're oddly attached to some quirk of OS9 (like the chooser or something). Compared to Windows, I find it to be far more intuitive and far more stable. It seems to be much more standards compliant and takes advantage of many technologies that require complicated installation procedures in Windows. Jaguar, the next version of OS X, comes out this summer and its gonna be even more amazing. You can check it out at apple.com/macosx/newversion. There is a caveat to all this though: OS X really needs a G4 and a lot of RAM. No matter what they say, every G3 that I see it on is a bit pokey for doing anything complex. I'm gonna max out the ram in my iBook and see what happens. <<unitl I got a Mac and I have been in-doors ever since>>: LOL. I'm not quite that bad.

Revel: <<Who has heard or read anything about PS 7.0?>>: To my understanding, the only new features are the healing brush and carbonization, the latter doesn't matter unless you use OS X. Save yourself the $200 upgrade. I'd still be using 6 if it ran in OS X, but I had to upgrade.

Jan: <<They referred to his prothestic leg as a "peg leg">>: Very PC 8-)

Niamhgold: <>: I second that "er". <<95 degree heat during bedtime>>: That's sleeping naked time if I've ever heard it. <<everyone else is healthy, and seemingly happy. Which is all you can really ask for, I guess>>: That's not what I'm asking for my high school class 8-) <<I'm trying, for my host's sake, to keep things down to a minimum>>: I'm sure the sucker who's putting you up can find some extra space. <<Maybe the biz cards I'm making for them will help>>: Do you have any idea how much space cards take up? <<it depends if you're Mac or PC>>: Carbonization is a big plus. With 7, there is only one more application I'm waiting for, and Mathworks finally announced it for this winter. Of course, by that time I won't need it. <<concerning bananas, it'd be monkeys. Concerning popsicles...now THERE'S the not-so-innocent thought track>>: Are popsicles somehow less perverse than bananas? <<berating him for NOT drinking enough>>: That happens many times. <<Sadly, RL sucks>>: Maybe you'll have some time while you're on vacation. <<You remind me of my friend Ivanny (only taller>>: And hairier! <<Someone will have to lick you to find out>>: Which sucker would sign up for that job? <<why would you need to do that?>>: I'm an engineer. I count things. 9 days, for example. <<ever closer to the mac & PC household>>: I'm sure if you wanted to you could stick with PC's. But as you get more and more towards film studios, you might wind up on some *NIX. <<to say that Apple is making it difficult to do anything creative on any machine other than a mac is unfounded>>: Notice the word "starting" from my sentence. When 70,000 Windows-using musicians have to switch from Emagic or switch to Mac, I'd call that a start at making it difficult to do on a PC. Besides, Apple has swallowed 4 digital media companies in the last 3 months. Who's to say more aren't on the way? Apple is *never* going to be able to make it *impossible* to do creative on Windows, because they only have 4 billion dollars to spend. But they can make a dent. <>: Ewwww. I dunno, can you return tampons, condoms, lube, or blow-up dolls? <<You AREN'T a vampire>>: Sometimes. <<Always accepting applications>>: "disturbed WM seeks disturbed WF for roommate. Must split internet connection." <<Northern California>>: Why the hell would you go there? It sucks. I should know. <<::Happy Thoughts:: ...whoo, I'm worn out>>: I wondered what that smoke was coming from the east.

PKBitchGirl: <<when is the new season of TGS coming out?>>: Never. Stop asking.

Sevarius: <<So, you looking for recruits? I always have time to kill>>: Dude, I would *love* to see your influence on these stories. But if you always have time to kill, then why don't you post in here more often? <<It's a rather unique way of using the old Gamecube controller>>: LOL!

Gside: <<They're not drunk enough. Or insane enough. Same thing>>: The former is a temporary form of the latter, though often with the same effects. <<so far, I'm both>>: Reminds me of RHPS: "If you're actually a virgin (sex), you're probably a virgin (RHPS)". <>: As do I. Didn't stop people from licensing it just to avoid lawsuits ::cough::Apple::cough:: <<Then who should I trade with?>>: Spacebabies clothes might fit you. <<I'd have to look up the kms/imperial conversions, and I already know 32f/s/s off the top of my head>>: Someone at GE the other day gave me a load in units of kilograms-force. kgf!? WTF!? Just use newtons. This is why we have SI, people! <>: ?? <>: I'm sure someone does, though. <<Mikey likes it>>: But he didn't ask mikey. <<So you like it cold? Going to be heading over to the undead quarter's red light district?>>: Might not be cold enough. <<He must be pretty ugly>>: And fuzzy. <<what does it have to do with the Pledge of Alegiance brainwashing kids into being patriotic?>>: If you can brainwash kids to be patriotic, the sky's the limit. <<You? Imzadi?>>: With both of us on the other side of the country, that's some wishful thinking.

Jaden: <<in case you didn't know the new trailer for the next Lord of the Rings movie is out at quicktime.com>>: The bastards spoiled the return of Galdalf! How dare they!

Lain: <<a threesome with king arthur and the olsen twins and vibrating nintendo gamecube controllers?>>: Wouldn't that be a foursome? <>: While SJ is writing about the gamecub controllers, the other 27 are using them 8-) <<lets not all hop on the critical bandwagon till weve tried the other side>>: Too late.

Second

Mounting is used for three things: climbing on a horse, linking in a hard disk unit in data systems, and, well, sex.
-Christa Keil

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, July 7, 2002 02:50:09 AM
IP: 64.160.47.243

first?
lain
Sunday, July 7, 2002 02:44:11 AM
IP: 65.92.88.105