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What a nice day. Planning to go to up to the mountains tomorrow to have a nice relaxing walk.

Hey, I was the VERY last post last week. Let's see if I can do that again.

Spacebabie- <the moron> What do you expect? He's a guy.

Christine- Is it just me or was it REALLY hot this week?

Gotta go,
Later.
Jaden - [jaden1444@aol.com]
Saturday, August 17, 2002 08:45:21 PM
IP: 172.195.110.164

Baron> You told me that he was part of it.

I know you did but I didn't know because we didn't have the ringers on, my dad's parents are in town. :P
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Saturday, August 17, 2002 04:35:04 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Another week has passed. Almost 11 months before I start clearing and August 8, 2003, I am off to America. And in about two months, I'll be in Kosovo. Where, I don't know yet. I would love it if I got Pristina, which is a NATO base :)

Additionally, I will be in Pisa, Italy for Labor Day weekend.

Imzadi> <<No, you've confused it with the CA gov't ;-)>> True enough. Plus power outages and I hear the GOP candidate is beating Gray Davis, though he isn't all that well-backed.

<<Was that before or after hanging black people and beating them with a whip?>> During the same time. The South did a lot of good and evil things. The nasty current of racism was a definite evil. The old-fashioned feel and good manners were good. Now, if we could be a polite color-blind south. If Robert E. Lee didn't die so soon afetr the Civil War, he could have been a very strong opponent of the racist backlash.

<<Just so you could cop a feel, huh? >> No, but I know Aaron and his views and I'd want to check him for anything. I'll search Mara instead...did I say that out loud?

<<disagree. The acheivements of man are nearly as impressive as the crap in the bible.>> And the Bible I count as one of those achievements, but I wouldn't worship the Bible or anything of this world. Beisdes, our achievemnets are impressive, but not divine.

<<Everything is cheaper than San Fran.>> Maybe not London. Actually, I'd like to visit San Fran, provided I have alot of money saved up and I'm wealthier.

<<You've obviously never met Aaron. >> I have, but I consider thrift a good thing. As opposed to your dad, I beleive wealth is determined by how much you save. My Uncle made 350K a year, but spent 400K that year. Your dad would consider him wealthy :)

<<That's more than I learned. I don't know if I want to work at GE or not. All I know is I don't want to live in San Jose. Cupertino maybe, but not San Jose.>> I don't blame you. That whole area is brand new and pricey. I want to live in the area that gets me the best value (meaning good pay and cheap cost of living).

<You and Robby are nuts.>> By my involvement in the issue at hand, I cannot make a comment. I however have no plans to get married anytime soon or really date either.

<<Why would I ever want to work full time? ;-)>> Want? Welcome to the real world. You don't get what you want...well I want to go to Kosovo so I guess you can :)

Kathy> There will be other times. I will only be in Europe for another year.

Spacebabie> <<True but Janet Reno wants to run for Governor here.>> As a now Florida resident, I will help you in that crusade.

Tribun> My theory is that Demona is not on the road to redemption, but merely postponing her normal evil to combat Madoc and the Unseelie. She is not pure evil and capable of love and good deeds. She may also be confused so she leaves to sort out her feelings for Andrea (because she's human) and I see her still being a villain, but entering the path of penitence.

This is only my opinion and I am no authority at al :)

Heather> My depression is not his fault. I have issues with depression. It is a lovely family gift along with heart disease and cancer.

And you were dramatized by Aaron's driving. Was it scarier than traveling in a bus seeing the lovely ghettoes of New Orleans :)

Aaron> <<Same thing.>> True, true ;)

Imzadi> <<Agreed. Horrid little creatures. >> Firestorm will find out where she works, visit her at work and bring the A1 steak sauce :)

Heather> Go for Italy. I'll be in Pisa soon and if my gets approved, I'll be in Milan to visit Shadowrider.

<<> I can not say because I told a friend that I wouldn't say anything. He's here but please stop picking on him, it makes him depressed.>> He picks on everyone though. He's a self-centered bastard, but he is also an equal opportunity offender, and I'd vote for him if he ran for Office :)

Good picture, btw. I also tried to call you. Please e-mail me.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau, Germany
Saturday, August 17, 2002 04:12:48 PM
IP: 62.104.212.98

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel> I can not say because I told a friend that I wouldn't say anything. He's here but please stop picking on him, it makes him depressed.

"Right, that's what I said. Nuts. In any case, I think love is often an illusion. " - I doubt you been in a relationship for nearly four years with being long distance.

Wilek> "Dear GODS, my condolences. O_o" - I know, but it pays well. :D

Enough of replies, real life for the day...
I just got an announcement from my art teacher that the Chorus and the Art Classes, whoever signsn up, is planning a trip to Italy so we're going to have fundraisers and stuff to raise money.
It is during Spring Break so it might be much better than going to Cancun.

Just for kicks, here is a link to a picture I did of a a character from the web comic, Suburban Jungle, as Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop.
Heather - [<-------- Clicky! Now!]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Saturday, August 17, 2002 11:59:15 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Hello tsgers, well I GOTTA JOB LAST WEEK WOOHOO and not only that but I hope to be able to get my own place at the end of september so Lain won't have to put up with me anymore (jk)I can't wait to get a cat and maybe finaly have some money! then I can got out and have some fun...I so need to get out...
phire_kat
Saturday, August 17, 2002 11:34:06 AM
IP: 65.92.88.201

YAAAAAY ME!

i art finished my exams!

i think i did pretty well on the both of them. though.. i admit i probably shouldnt have had as much fun on the last one with my example of bell canada in relation to mill's belief in freedom of thought and discussion..... ;)
i have to go down and kick bell canadas SORRY LITTLE ARSE in just a moment.. then i have to kick my banks SORRY LITTLE ARSE after that. i already kicked my credit cards bank. they sent me my first bill.. EVER.. and it had a "prior balance" and interest on it. i thought that was kinda funky, to say the least. then they start phoning me up because i havent paid my bill. turns out, they never even SENT me my first bill. i told them it was really too bad that they didnt have my money, and that i would pay it when they got off their bums and actually SENT it to me. the lady on the phone was kinda in shock. i, however, dont think its reasonable to be paying a bill i havent received (no matter WHAT the HELL my university thinks, the bastards!)

and now my phone bill AND hydro bill have late payment charges on them, and i have two "not sufficient funds" fees from my bank because my THEY SCREEEWED ME OVER and LIED to me about which account theyd given me cheques for. think the bank will be paying for it? i sure as hell do. i already whooped their butts and made them reverse the NSF fee. i have them in the bag now, because theyve already admitted guilt. oooooooh and ill take this as far as it needs to go, BEWARE YOU SKANKY BANK! I WILL TAKE YOU DOWN!! grrrr.. i was so mad, you wouldnt even believe it.

and now my phone bill, which was 200$ odd. ekweese me? I DIDNT CALL ANYWHERE LONG DISTANCE EXCEPT TO MY FATHER AND THAT WAS A TOTAL OF 9 something dollars! it is, of course, the first bounced cheque. however, its really funny because on my SECOND phone bill, it said "payment received, thankyou" which.. call me strange but it would seem like it implied they had received my payment.. :P but what do i know? that would probably make waaaaaay too much sense to be right.

you know? im so mad im thinking about just.. not having a phone. would save me 50$ a month, and THATS never a bad thing. who the hell do i call, anyways? my father? oooo wah, he has email. tell ya what, if hes THAT despirate to talk to me, he can PAY FOR THE PHONE HIMSELF :P ive had it! i need to put the bell canada logo up to my banks logo on the wall and play darts with them.. gah. and then we wonder why i have no money :P

dph>> got my essay back. comments included "in the end, the essay tails off a bit. im a little unsure of your overall position" well, fancy that :P though, we both knew that was going to be the case ;) thanks anyways, i got a goodly mark notwithstanding my total lack of position :D
lain
Saturday, August 17, 2002 11:06:37 AM
IP: 129.100.249.21

oops!

DPH:<<the current episode page for when TGS will be released has been changed>> cool. Does this mean that you're Karyn's replacement as official TGS announcer?

Josh/Heather:<<<>: Oh really? What have you heard and from whom have you heard it?>>Revel said something about you mock fondling Titania's boobs during the MGT 3000.

Aaron:<> Does that mean that you're a lesbian trapped in a man's body?<<Where in Texas were you?>>I lived in Austin from 1984-1990. Traveling outside Austin was a road trip. I don't remember anything significant between Austin and SanAntonio besides San Marcos. Similar situation with Austin to Dallas. Austin to Galveston was an exception. We went through quite a few small Houston suburbs and saw a few of those "erotic"(Naked Gun reference)oil dereks in the fields of wildflowers. I think that was in Texas City.

Kathy:<<memories of Meat Science Class>>Did you go to a cooking school? What other kind of school has a Meat Science Class?

Spacebabie:<<He is a sculptor whos neighbors complained about his junk(sculptures) on his lawn so he made a giant butt sculpture.>>That bit of "news" never made it to Virginia. Though we did have an article around christmas about a family who had beer can decorations.<<Janet Reno wants to run for Governor>>Im sure the Bushes will find a way to rig the election (again). ;)
Leo
Yorktown, VA
Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:56:35 AM
IP: 172.131.233.155

DPH:<<
Leo
Yorktown, VA
Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:12:14 AM
IP: 172.131.233.155

Oh Corry? Found ye an episode list. I am a helpful Wilek. *poing* ^_^
Wilek
Saturday, August 17, 2002 08:10:24 AM
IP: 128.241.245.34

dph>> <<o, the current episode page for when TGS will be released has been changed.>> AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!! crapcrapcraaaaaaps!!!!!! *faints*
lain
Saturday, August 17, 2002 07:53:20 AM
IP: 65.92.88.201

Well, today I drove home from Berkeley. Woke up at about 845 and completed the drive in just under 5 hours. Not exactly great time, but not too shabby either. Picked up several steaks for my dad at the big ranch along the way. The trip was uneventful, didn't even see a single CHiP.

Had dinner with the parental and grandparental units tonight. I showed them parts of my presentation and lots of pictures so that they could see what I was doing this summer. They were so impressed.

Then went to Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles with my friends Ian and Andrew. They drove to LA for the *night* to see something at the LA apple store. Freaks.

Ooh, and I ordered my iPod. 20 gigs of love, engraved with a happy b-day message from mom and dad (okay, so its a bit early).

Heather: <<finally I get a remark from you>>: You have to say the right things to provoke me. Unlike life, "showing up" is not 50% of getting me to respond. <>: Oh really? What have you heard and from whom have you heard it? <<If you miss any of them or have one wrong, an zero on the assignment>>: Okay that's a valid reason for failing algebra. Assuming assignments were a significant portion of the class grade. <<You and me are going to have fun now that I'm back>>: I stopped having fun with high school girls when I left high school ;-) <<we're not nuts. We're in love>>: Right, that's what I said. Nuts. In any case, I think love is often an illusion.

Kathy: <>: Good call. Is it an ethical thing or just fed up with their programs? <<Hotmail and a couple of other sites that evolved when they had done updates to their coding>>: Hotmail is owned by M$, so its safe to assume that it "works best with IE 6" <<4.6, the last browser Netscape developed that is fast and efficient unlike their newer versions>>: I think 4.8 just came out today for mac. Did it come out for windows too? Anyway, the 4 series is vastly superior to the 6 or 7 series on mac, I'll agree. Sadly, the 4 series doesn't run in OS X except under classic. <<Has anybody had any experience with Opera?>>: I hear its quite impressive on Windows. Its not shabby on mac, they just need to get their butts in gear and develop a version more compliant with OS X. <<no new Apples for me>>: Are you actually interested in one or are you just saying that to stop me from saying "mac mac mac"? <<I'll wait until I can get a copy of XP and just upgrade the whole bloody thing>>: Probably a safe bet. Be careful though that XP doesn't disable all your peripherals like it did to my dad. He still can't get the scanner working.

Christine: <>: You know, you are just no fun! ;-)

Spacebabie: <>: Use a spoon. <<You can do it>>: And so I did. <<You can scope out The Pennsylvania>>: Why? <<That�s why you smell like bread>>: Um, okay. <<There are a lot of worse things to smell like than bread>>: Maybe what I should ask is: would smelling like bread be a turn-on or turn-off? <<He will only fight off the ones I don�t want>>: Yeah, but you're blonde. You'll take anyone in this fandom ;-) <<Cool we can hang, drink Zima�s and Ice>>: Okay, sure. <<I�m her Miko she can do whatever she wants>>: Note to self...

Niamhgold: <<Someone told me that Auburn is actually bum-f%ck, California>>: Gee, can't imagine why they'd say that. <<she promised some time in Tahoe>>: My entire family is exceedingly jealous. <<I'm siccing my parents on administration today>>: "I'm telling my mommy on you!" <<someone who thinks along the lines of affordability!>>: Budgeting is futile. Your cash will be assimilated by retail. <<one can also have frequent sex with the same person and not have any other emotional attachment than "I want now!">>: Hmmm... <<It would also cut down on the time it takes to *find* many different sources>>: And few things beat getting laid *and* saving time! <<boy bands need to learn to "sit and spin.">>: HAHAHAHA. I think they probably already do...on each other. <<Can you telecommute?>>: Nope. <<could live somewhere like Cupertino and commute to GE, since they will pay dearly to have you back?>>: I plan on it, but GE won't give me a housing stipend. <<upload a pic of a poster>>: Good idea!

Tribun: <<Please someone telle me, that she will not again become a villian>>: Bad news, dude. Greg X is head of TGS edits. He loves Demona and he loves being Evil. Guess where that's going... <<When will he break his silence>>: Never is my guess.

Aaron: Wow, two posts in a week! <<do they not fly at night?>>: That's probably the case. Its difficult to distingish cars from the road at night without expensive equipment. <<a con within the con devoted to the Mature Audiences side of the fandom>>: Woohoo! Porn! I'll bring my laptop to trade. <<Can I still object to them because I don't like slowing down, waiting in line, and emptying my wallet?>>: Only the first two reasons. If you didn't empty your wallet, then you'd have to empty your paycheck every year for some asinine road in bumf*ck NJ. <<For when the Mercedes isn't big enough?>>: Yeah. Or I'd replace him with a newer Jeep. He is getting rather fussy. <<Does it have any weird side-effects>>: yeah, it makes you not be depressed ;-) <<There's always more plastic>>: Like my dad says: "the measure of your wealth is not what you have, but what you owe."

Gside: <<Even hero hair>>: What's that? <<Exactly. Right brainers>>: Even most right brainers I know passed Algebra I before 10th grade. <<Besides the stock market, it's also got a longer history>>: So? Athens is even older. Yet its not the center of civilization. <<there are some who like them more natural>>: What do they know? <>: Fair enough. But its also an engineer thing ("optimizing the wallet"). <<You're using numbers for homonyms. It gets old>>: And hard to read.

Wilek: Ooh, a real post! <>: Weird. <<Dear GODS, my condolences>>: Agreed. Horrid little creatures. <<Why does amputee porn exist>>: Because someone gets off on it. <<

Okay, sleep time.

Why do I always smell bread?
-Dreamie, at Gathering 2001

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Encino, CA, US of A
Saturday, August 17, 2002 04:35:36 AM
IP: 206.170.218.228

HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY DO YOU INCUR MY WRATH. sorry that was all just to get your attintion. As was the picture. But I digress. Do any of you know where I could find an episodes list for the telivised Gargoyles series. I have a MIGHTY NEED to know this.

And peleas click on my link to see me at full evilness ^_^)
The Corinthian
Saturday, August 17, 2002 03:05:05 AM
IP: 66.168.171.9

Something I forgot:
Gside> <> You mean...his hair is like that...naturally?
...
Shmee? I think there's something wrong with this world. O_o
Wilek
Saturday, August 17, 2002 02:00:05 AM
IP: 128.241.245.34

Josh> <<Quicktime 6 for Winblows has some problems, I've been trying to use it on Win2K at work. I'm totally unable to view any QT content with it. No idea what's up. Please submit a bug report to apple.>> Turns out it didn't install right; as nearly as I can tell, I shouldn't have had my browser window open whilst installing it (well how was I to know it used something from Quicktime?)...uninstalling and installing again fixed it. :)

Spacebabie> <<You dreaming about me again.>> Not unless you're the ghost of a little blond girl who bears a striking resemblance to Shirley Temple... <<And yet Gside says you still have some innocence>> Oh I do. It's rather twisted of course, but better that than none at all. >;)

DPH> <<when do you plan on using those special missiles on DC?>> I launched them a week ago. O_o

Corinthian> <> Ahh. Hm. Sometimes I get the impression that my dreams are a puzzle box, a road of signposts leading somewhere...but I can never remember them well enough to follow them, especially toward the end; they fall apart as I wake up. O_o <<But I am intersted to hear of this mansion. Tell me, was there ither a fat man with a small gargoyle or a tall man with red hair who sounded like vincient price killing the fat one?>> Maybe inside; I never went in. (That place was surrounded by a miasma of evil so thick you could choke on it. I still get freaked out when I think of it. I honestly don't think I want to know what was in there; it felt like a gateway directly between my dreamworld and Hell itself. O_o) <<and rember Keep those eyes open ;}>> But of course. (I bet you spend a lot on toothpaste. :P)

Gabriel> <> You'd be surprised. <whispers conspiratorially> They have...WALNUTS. O_O'

Ravyn> Welcome back! ^_^

Heather> You as well! ^_^ <<I'm going to delivery babies! Yay?>> Dear GODS, my condolences. O_o

Niamhgold> <<Wow. There needs to be a CR posting award for "most random posts" ;)>> Gaze deep into the stinking abyss of my individually wrapped slices! >:D

SRSJ> <<They're showing a BRAND NEW He-Man and Masters of The Universe Cartoon on Toonami!>> Wow, when will that be coming on? Been waiting a while. ^_^

Aaron> <<Click my link for the best, most intense webcomic I've found in a year.>> <checks it out> OOoooooooooOOOoOOOoOOOo. Me rikey. 8D I'm normally a touch wary of furry sites (Why does amputee porn exist? >_<), but this looks like the exception that proves the rule. >:D I can't wait for the different threads to resolve into a single storyline (they will, right?). ^_^

Revel> <<(passes out cigars) wrong occasion but always a good gift.>> But of course; terminal lung cancer being such a very pleasant thing. ;)

Gside> <<Of a sexual nature. He may know about the deviances, but he does not enjoy any of them, nor does he really like to know of them.>> And they're rather fun to turn against the deviants who are into them--imagine the surprise of a watersports fanatic who suddenly finds himself with a faceful of sulfuric acid. ;)

=I am black ferrous metal decaying under bridges
I am the black feral killer of small things in the night
My soul is the unending sussurus of rain upon concrete
I stare at the sky to remember the moon,
And I dream of steel and Her eyes.=
Wilek
Saturday, August 17, 2002 01:44:49 AM
IP: 128.241.245.34

*DPH enters the CR and activates ten overlapping forcefields to protect himself*

Yo, the current episode page for when TGS will be released has been changed.

*hundreds of objects are thrown by hecklers and disbelievers at DPH which thankfully, his overlapping forcefields block. DPH opens a portal to leave the CR safely.*
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, August 17, 2002 01:34:42 AM
IP: 204.94.193.34

Zombies RULE!

Just got an e-mail from the editor of The Book of All Flesh. 11 out of the 25 stories in the antho were listed under Honorable Mention in the new Year's Best Fantasy and Horror. Including, dare I boast, MINE! Woo! Origins nomination and Year's Best honorable mention, how's that for nifty?

Okay, off to work my overtime. Just had to share the spiffy news!
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, August 17, 2002 12:40:35 AM
IP: 65.239.13.20

Imzadi> <<With enough gel, anything is possible>>: Even hero hair?
<<you failed Algebra I??? In SOPHOMORE year?!>>: Exactly. Right brainers.
<<More of NY is non-city (percentage wise) than CA>>: I was referring to the city. Besides the stock market, it's also got a longer history.
<<Really?>>: Ayuh.
<<Don't we all?>>: No, there are some who like them more natural.
<<But with no net or caffeine...it just doesn't do>>: Quite. But I do have net when I'm actually at home, just not on trips. And I can deal with the caffeine.
<<Ooh! I like that idea!>>: I thought you would.
<<Lets hear it!>>: Not yet, I still need to put up something of Vince's.

Spacebabie> <<He has innocence?>>: Of a sexual nature. He may know about the deviances, but he does not enjoy any of them, nor does he really like to know of them.
<<Spray gel>>: I have never seen Wolvie use gel.
<<You can scope out The Pennsylvania>>: Or even Jersey. Remember, we keep the refineries in the north, trees in the south.
<<And yet Gside says you still have some innocence>>: Some, but hardly all.

Niamhgold> <<Didn't seem to make it too much busier>>: Make what busier?
<<someone who thinks along the lines of affordability!>>: I blame my parents.
<<Which webcomics do you subscribe to?>>: No subscriptions. I hit most of the large indepentants (Sluggy, MT, PVP, PA, UF, B&G, 8BT, AT, LoR), a good bit of Keenspot (Schlock, Avalon, CRFH, Fans...), some of Keenspace (Adv, Jackie's Fridge, 1/0, ZG, Jack, FCE...), and some others (Absurd Notions, Narbonic, Acid Reflux, Kung Fool, PCC...)
<<one can also have frequent sex with the same person and not have any other emotional attachment>>: I would have thought at least one of the two (gender indeterminate in general cases) would be trying to turn it into a relationship.

Silverbolt> <<What?>>: You're using numbers for homonyms. It gets old.

Happy Birthday Greg.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, August 16, 2002 11:52:15 PM
IP: 68.38.240.227

Aaron> "Heh. Odd, that's never happened before..." - I Was! I was scared to death a couple of times when we entered Dallas, you zipping by vans and stuff and any once a while cursing. It was amusing but frightening. :P
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Friday, August 16, 2002 09:52:57 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Going back to school Sunday, hopefully there will be no problems or fires, or explosions, and a minimum of crazy drivers. BUt I got some stuff done before hand so I will not be forgotten.

Oh and Happy Birthday Greg. (passes out cigars) wrong occasion but always a good gift.

*Self Promo*

New storie in the archive and at my site along with some new pics and stuff.

*END*
Need to pack and then back to TGS art.

"You bastard, you're still alive?!"

-Kou, The Bouncer-
Revel - [<<---------Click!!]
the bayou city, tx
Friday, August 16, 2002 06:50:40 PM
IP: 172.162.253.43

Jan> <<they radio ahead to the state trooper that is sitting along side of the road that is a mile or so ahead of you. He tags you and gives you the ticket for speeding.>> They must have been asleep on the job then. Or do they not fly at night?

Heather> <<*is still a bit dramatized by Aaron's driving*>> Heh. Odd, that's never happened before... <<And no, we're not nuts. We're in love.>> Same thing.

Gside> <<Ah. But it's not worth elevating it over small towns, and cities do tend to have something of the sort.>> Ah, but the Texas highway department spends money like water, for fear of having its copious budget reduced. Plus, towns here *want* the highway to go through them, because it brings in revenue.

Josh> <<<<all Gathering Diaries must contain at least one glaring typo>>: I don't remember mine having any.>> Perhaps the intern is the exception that proves the rule... <<Would one of you mind posting an explanation in here?>> Okay. Basically, OtherCon is supposed to be a sort of shadow Gathering, a con within the con devoted to the Mature Audiences side of the fandom. It's separate, self-contained, admission with badge and photo ID only. But you get to see all the really sw33t garg pr0n the artists are drawing, plus MA fic panels, contests, and maybe even a small dealer's room. <<<<it was my better half, not me, who felt you up, remember>>Bet you enjoyed that.>> I wasn't there. I only got to hear about it later. <<Ah, but you don't pay for toll roads in your taxes. The tolls pay for those roads. Just like the bay bridge.>> Oh. Can I still object to them because I don't like slowing down, waiting in line, and emptying my wallet? <<f I didn't need the cash from selling him to pay for the mercedes.>> But, all other things being equal, you want to keep him, right? For when the Mercedes isn't big enough? <<The police probably just
surrendered in the war on crime ;-)>> Snrrk. <<And the rarely fall out of the sky 8-)>> Except when the skinnies shoot your tail rotor off with an RPG.

Spacebabie> <<Celexa its an antidepressant used to treat social anxiety disorder.>> I'll keep that in mind. Does it have any weird side-effects? <<.>>>I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one who was purring.>> Really? <<I'm her Miko she can do whatever she wants.>> That's true. :) <<yeah but I'm saving the plastic for school books.>> There's always more plastic.

Niahmgold> <<Eh, who needs Pepsi...it's all about Coca Cola ;)>> Amen!

Click my link for the best, most intense webcomic I've found in a year.

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, August 16, 2002 06:32:50 PM
IP: 209.33.140.99

I mean sends me enough feedback.
SIlverbolt
Friday, August 16, 2002 05:59:35 PM
IP: 62.7.93.11

Tribun> I liked the idea of coldsteel and Thailog working together. I just want 2 know what happens 2 Delilah and the clones! What's Thailog going 2 do 2 them?

What?

I just like Delilah and the clones that's all, anyone who reads my fics would know... not like anyone ever mentions me though :(

Silverbolt
EnglandFriday, August 16, 2002 05:58:20 PM
IP: 62.7.93.11

Niamhgold> "Eh, who needs Pepsi...it's all about Coca Cola ;)" - Well Vanilla coke has more calories than Pepsi so I'm not the five million people that like to drink it. Too much like creme soda.

Tribun> "By these guys are really a pain in the ass. First the are really a nuisance at the council and then they bagun a intrigue against Goliath, to weaken his clans position at the next council. Boy I hate these asses. I hope, thier plan will be a total failure." - Well when Robby made those eps, The Council, he said that orignally they were suppose to be yelling, complaining, all the time throughout but it didn't seem "real" so he made them calmer and "we're right but we're going to do it in a calmer stricker way so that people say "I hate these guys but they're right"."
And you know what makes me feel stupid, I didn't know the name of Icarus before The Council...

*is listening to currently "Robin Williams on Broadway"*

Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Friday, August 16, 2002 04:56:29 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

oops...I meant "Which I had read as exact as I had never done before".....
Tribun
Friday, August 16, 2002 04:46:49 PM
IP: 62.214.32.46

So, I did a little re-read of TGS. And a closer look into the story lines at the end of the 3rd season, which I had not read as exact as I had before, helped me, to get some opinions.

The chinese gargoyle clan>By these guys are really a pain in the ass. First the are really a nuisance at the council and then they bagun a intrigue against Goliath, to weaken his clans position at the next council. Boy I hate these asses. I hope, thier plan will be a total failure.

Demona>Oh god, no. I saw her on the road of redemption, and now she is forced again into the role of the villian. Please someone telle me, that she will not again become a villian!

Thailog>Whow! Thailog and Coldsteel together against the clan. But something tells me, that they don't trust each other.

Brooklyn>How much longer can he hide, what will happen in the not-so distant future? How much longer will some of the clan trust him? When will he break his silence?

Well, wait and see, how this will be soluted in the 4th season........

see ya
-Tribun,
one Timedancer-hater
Tribun - [joachim_henkel@gmx.net]
Luebeck, SH, Germany
Friday, August 16, 2002 04:40:32 PM
IP: 62.214.32.46

Omigod! They're showing a BRAND NEW He-Man and Masters of The Universe Cartoon on Toonami!

YES! NEW TOONAGE!!!

Review later! Must watch NOW!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [ssobotka33616@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Friday, August 16, 2002 04:27:41 PM
IP: 65.35.132.45

** Niamhgold enters **

I'm posting while I wait for my aunt to pick me up and bring me up to Sacramento-ish area (Auburn, actually) at noon. Someone told me that Auburn is actually bum-f%ck, California, so I don't know if I should look at it positively or negatively. But she promised some time in Tahoe, and her husband's twenty-odd relatives are all going to be at a barbeque bash on Saturday to celebrate one of his sons's weddings. He has nine kids, and twenty-eight grandkids already ;) My aunt, herself, has...one ;)

I've finished up every little scrap of school work that I had to make up this summer. Though the tendonitis thing still lingers, it behaves every now and then. I just want to finish school because I'm fed up with how retarded my school people ARE.

I found out that the school-sponsored housing that I'm to live in next year won't be completely finished, and *our* room is one of the eight that won't be ready for move in. So, they're getting temporary housing five blocks away, on the FOURTH floor of an elevator-less building, and are going to have us move to the other building a week after school starts. I'm sorry, but without my parents around, eight tons of furniture, three equally-as-weak girls and the first week of junior ear with job interviews and the like, it's just NOT feasible. I'm siccing my parents on administration today.

Whatever replies I can muster:

Gside: Didn't seem to make it too much busier. <Yes, but is portability of an LCD worth the extra money?> Whoohoo, someone who thinks along the lines of affordability! :) <What about my webcomics? Graphics take a while.> Which webcomics do you subscribe to? Me, I do Crossgen's stuff, since I won a free subscription at wizard World. <All depends on whether we can glean that it's from the same source or many different sources. > well, one can also have frequent sex with the same person and not have any other emotional attachment than "I want now!" ;) It would also cut down on the time it takes to *find* many different sources.

Stephanie: <We don't manufacture them here in Canada; we just hear the overflow from 'our neighbour's' house. I have to say, if we were as inundated with them as you are I would have to stick a finger down my throat> You probably have no idea...of course, the idea of sending them *all* to the space station, where NASA will hopefully cut off all life support, is good. Otherwise, boy bands need to learn to "sit and spin."

Imzadi: <Let me tell you, carrying a 17" CRT up 4 flights of stairs SUCKS> Bet it could be worse. Can you telecommute? Or you could live somewhere like Cupertino and commute to GE, since they will pay dearly to have you back? ;) <I'm a bigger fan of the Access tunnels. Then again, I would be, since that's what I worked on> Ooh, ooh, upload a pic of a poster or something so you can point out to people in here what you did this summer :) <Amen.> I don't know you. <seems I've won the intern of the year award for GE Nuclear> Congratulations!...for not killing anyone...yet...

Wilek: <They have a semi-automatic neck breaker. In case you didn't read that right--a Semi. Automatic. Frelling. NECK BREAKER. YEE HAWWW!!!! > Wow. There needs to be a CR posting award for "most random posts" ;)

Ravyn: <nd Pepsi Blue here in Arizona> Eh, who needs Pepsi...it's all about Coca Cola ;) <plus my boss was "annoyed with me" for taking classes and only working when I had free time> did *she* ever go to college? ;) <But I've already gotten another job offer to work at this copy place on campus ... > Money is good. Much luck on working and stuff through the semester! I know your pain--18 credits (that's 27 in-class hours), being a Peer Career Advisor, and another job to make ends meet because the advisor job only pays a stipend at the end of the semester. That, plus the darned new housing dilemma...urg. ;) Keep in touch!

Gunjack: <Yup, it's true! I survived six weeks of camp, sickness, sleep deprivation, and two consecutive rolls in an SUV! I'm back, I'm bad, and I'm here for yer daughters!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! > (a) good thing I have no daughters and (b) any bruises from the two rolls in the SUV? ;)

Okay, have to get stuff together.
Adios!

Niamhgold
Friday, August 16, 2002 02:12:13 PM
IP: 64.160.47.120

I'm on a cell phone tirade. The moron's cell phone was charging last night and one of his baka friends kept calling. One in the morning, two fifteen in the morning, three in the morning. I want to take a hammer to his phone, him and his idiot friend.

Im not the only one who was pissed at him. The parental units were also angry

and the Butt man made The Pulse last night. He has been popping up in the news. He is a sculptor whos neighbors complained about his junk(sculptures) on his lawn so he made a giant butt sculpture.

Replies

Leo<<<Culkin boys as the asthmatic son>>>Mom was complaining that he was using the wrong kind of inhalant.<<<"water sports" wink wink, nudge nudge.. >>>I know but even that would be icy in Norway.

Gside<<<Just look a Wilek.>>> He has innocence???<<<And it won't stand up on its own>>>Spray gel

Josh<<<Just one more left.>>>You can do it<<>>You can scope out The Pennsylvania<<<How will that help with a cell phone?>>>Nothing, but I�ll be drunk off my ass and I wouldn�t care.<<<CURSES!>>>Don�t curse in here.<<>>That�s why you smell like bread.<<<So is that good or bad? >>>>There are a lot of worse things to smell like than bread.<<<You don't want your old man fighting off propositions for you.>>>He will only fight off the ones I don�t want.<<>>You were just giddy about it being the last day so you pretty much sat on your butt and partied.<<<Hmmm...time to move to Florida maybe. >>>Cool we can hang, drink Zima�s and Ice.

Wilek>>>And yet Gside says you still have some innocence

Gaygoyle>>>Yeah what�s wrong with just biting their heads off?

Rayvn<<>>I�m hooked on Vanilla coke myself. Of course I mix this drink using diet Dr. Pepper and Das Comet. Wich is technically Vanilla schnapps

Aaron<<<What kind? >>>Celexa its an antidepressant used to treat social anxiety disorder.<<<I'll... pass that along.>>>I�m pretty sure I wasn�t the only one who was purring.<<<And it was my better half, not me, who felt you up, remember?>>>I�m her Miko she can do whatever she wants.<<<Have you tried Amazon.com?>>>Yeah but I�m saving the plastic for school books.

Green Baron<<<And Florida would never have Jerry Brown for a Governor or Barbara Boxer for a Senator >>> True but Janet Reno wants to run for Governor here.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Friday, August 16, 2002 02:02:19 PM
IP: 67.25.53.144

Kathy > wow, thanks ... that's probably more than I'll ever need but it should certainly answer my questions.

Josh > I don't want to explode it. I want to have it go wildly out of control when the pilot's attacked, then tumble through the jungle and finally plunge into the sea. While still enabling the two guys in the back of the cabin to survive ... if they can get loose and swim to shore, that is ; )

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, August 16, 2002 01:05:39 PM
IP: 65.239.47.66

TGIF.

Still no word from Excite help. B*stards. Oh well. If I'm having an operating system problem then there's jack all they can do anyway.

No, my primary email isn't MSN, I avoid anything Microsoft if possible. I have had a problem for many months about using Netscape to get into Hotmail and a couple of other sites that evolved when they had done updates to their coding. I'm assuming it's because I'm using an older version of Communicator - 4.6, the last browser Netscape developed that is fast and efficient unlike their newer versions that are all AOLified and virtually indistinguishable from IE in load times and general irritation factors. Has anybody had any experience with Opera?

Anyway, I do have a goofy kind of fix for the problem that will have to suffice until I do a major over hall. I could reinstall Windows ME, (yeah, it came with the machine which is only a year old so no new Apples for me) but I think I'll wait until I can get a copy of XP and just upgrade the whole bloody thing.

Green Baron > Sounds like you were busy enough when you were in the Peach State. We'll catch up eventually, don't worry.

Oh and just because the UN is a sprawling bureaucracy doesn't mean it can't have a pleasant working environment and good bennies.

Greg B. Happy Birthday!

Jan > Congratulations on reclaiming your house.

Christine > No personal knowledge of helicopters, but follow the link, maybe you'll either find the information you need or a person to contact.

That's it from me, time to try and contribute something to the story that will not end, now in its final stages. For those that need a translation, that would be part 4 (and possibly part 5 if we decide to split it before posting) of "Home is a Dark Place" the latest in the world of Madame Destine.

Ciao
kathy
Friday, August 16, 2002 08:44:55 AM
IP: 66.32.96.159

Imzadi > Ah, finally I get a remark from you. I have heard SO many things about you. And yes I did but you shouldn't downgrade me because my freakin teacher didn't teach. She just gave us book, assignment, do. If you miss any of them or have one wrong, an zero on the assignment.
You and me are going to have fun now that I'm back. :D

And no, we're not nuts. We're in love. *huggles her Robby plushie*
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Friday, August 16, 2002 07:01:04 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Hey folks. Today was my last day at GE. I did ALMOST nothing, but I managed to put together an hour or two of work today. The rest of the time was spent randomly surfing the internet. I had to walk through a whole checkout procedure: hand in the badge (unlimited technology of the entire nuclear industry, and they can't just demagnetize it?), sign a sheet that says my mental health hasn't degraded while I worked there, and off to HR to get paid and sign more forms.

I got paid for four unused vacation days. Woohoo!

Overall, it was a great experience. I also got everyone to agree to act as a reference 8-) Then, when I got home, I packed up the apartment and drove everything up to Berkeley. I'll be spending the night here, then driving back to LA tomorrow.

Ooh, and my dual monitors are set up! Worked flawlessly the first time! Yes!

Dreamie and Wolf: <<gathering pics>>: I hate you both.

DPH: <<Because it was preinstalled>>: That's a terrible excuse. You're a programmer, you should be competent enough to install a better version. <<How much times does it take to place that game?>>: Place? <>: There was a great article on Satirewire about Symantec confusing Windows for a virus. <<Yea though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of Death I will fear no evil>>: Good comeback!

Todd: <<without giving too much away>>: Actually, that's kind of giving a lot away. <<going to be gradually moving them out of London, and even Britain>>: Smart move on their part.

Gabriel: <<never thought breaking a chicken's neck could be so difficult>>: Then you're obviously not doing it right ;-)

Kathy: <>: It wouldn't be an MSN account, would it? <<Can upgrading the operating system be far behind?>>: Is it ever?

Ravyn: <>: Get soda that doesn't suck. <<darn AZ for not getting products until 6 months after Michigan gets them>>: Or just move to a state that doesn't suck ;-) <>: Good for you. Never let people walk all over you, especially employers. You don't want to be taken advantage of. <<now that's just *scary.*>>: Why? It still runs ;-) <<Of course they were probably 2 classes that you needed, right?>>: Nope, not really. One that I really wanted to take, but then it allowed me room to take other classes and wake up later! Woohoo!

Patrick: <<Dude, I got a Dell!>>: I hate that guy. <<19" flat screen>>: Nice! <<which I guess is supposed to be the big thing now for engineering and CAD work>>: Glad I got two monitors then! <<but I hate to break it to you>>: You say it like I don't already know. Notice I only said I recommend a real tech. That way you have some recourse if it gets f*cked up. <<maybe it's true that Apple laptops need to be serviced by a trained tech to replace the CMOS battery>>: Only if you don't want to void your warranty. <<$3 at Radio Shack... and that beats a $50 service charge at Best Buy any day>>: Agreed, but with the warranty, I'd get it done for free 8-)

Aaron: <<Welcome to the dark side. Have some cookies>>: He can't afford to join you. <<all Gathering Diaries must contain at least one glaring typo>>: I don't remember mine having any. <<It's new. It needed explanation>>: Would one of you mind posting an explanation in here? <<Cops usually evoke that reaction from me.>>: Ditto. <<I'd rather not pay for roads twice. Once through local and federal taxes is more then enough>>: Ah, but you don't pay for toll roads in your taxes. The tolls pay for those roads. Just like the bay bridge. <<it was my better half, not me, who felt you up, remember>>: Bet you enjoyed that. <>: With enough gel, anything is possible. <>: No, you don't. <<But you'd keep Boomer, even if you got the Mercedes, right?>>: If I didn't need the cash from selling him to pay for the mercedes. <<Those people are scary>>: Agreed. <<then they mail me my ticket?>>: No, they radio a nearby car. <>: Even better! <<I'm a really good polisher>>: I'll bet you are. <>: I already know that, but its not what I asked ;-) <<For once, no>>: That explains the food then. <<Cr@p. Short for life then>>: Yeah, I know, it sucks. <<The police are probably on strike or something>>: The police probably just surrendered in the war on crime ;-) <<why do those kids keep chasing Lucky>>: Cuz they're stupid.

Lain: Glad you enjoyed it. <<that was one of the FUNNIEST things ive read in a long time>>: I was laughing out loud in the cubicle farm. It was very funny.

Jan: <<congrats! *mumbles* brown-noser>>: The silly part is that I really don't deserve it. The other interns did a much better job, and most of them didn't even get nominated. My original interview went so well that no sucking-up was required. <<This will look good on your resume when you are ready to work full time after college>>: Why would I ever want to work full time? ;-)

Heather: <<failed me sophmore year in Algebra I>>: you failed Algebra I??? In SOPHOMORE year?! Jeez. <<going to get married in 2 1/2 years, I got to finish high school>>: You and Robby are nuts.

Christine: <<Helicopters>>: What do you need to know? Depends on which way it crashes. Remember that the fuel tanks are located toward the rear, so it doesn't explode until the entire passenger compartment is crumpled-zoned in a forward crash. And the rarely fall out of the sky 8-)

Gside: <<Tell that to New York>>: New York is not the center of western civilization. More of NY is non-city (percentage wise) than CA. Plus, CA is equidistant from europe and east asia. <<Vermont used to be part of New Hampshire>>: Really? <>: Don't we all? <<but the room and board is free>>: That's a good reason. But with no net or caffeine...it just doesn't do. <<Turn them into concubines>>: Ooh! I like that idea! <>: I didn't say they couldn't. Just that they don't automatically. If you want it to, just click the green button 8-) <<Battle of 1814>>: Lets hear it!

Green Baron: <>: Best of luck. <>: No, you've confused it with the CA gov't ;-) <<When helping people sell businesses, get paid in advance>>: Good call. My dad learned that one the hard way. <>: That's more than I learned. I don't know if I want to work at GE or not. All I know is I don't want to live in San Jose. Cupertino maybe, but not San Jose. <<Kind of like the South a century ago>>: Was that before or after hanging black people and beating them with a whip? <>: You've obviously never met Aaron. <<which is a pretty sorry thing to worship>>: I disagree. The acheivements of man are nearly as impressive as the crap in the bible. <<we jsut need the whole world to finally admit Communism was a failure>>: That much is obvious. The question is whether or not its a good idea at all. <<if I was an airplane security guard, I'd give you a random stop>>: Just so you could cop a feel, huh? <<Florida would never have Jerry Brown for a Governor or Barbara Boxer for a Senator>>: Hmmm...time to move to Florida maybe. <<South Beach is cheaper than San Francisco>>: Everything is cheaper than San Fran. <<There were 15 Commandemnets, but Moses dropped a tablet>>: Yes, I saw History of the World Part 1.

Okay, sleep time. Have to be up early tomorrow.

Bridges in Kansas? No, but I have some ships from the Swiss Navy!
-Warpmind de InzanE, at Gathering 2001

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, August 16, 2002 03:35:44 AM
IP: 64.160.47.120

Well, now for a real post.

Ravyn> Well, I hope you enjoyed Michigan and all its wonders. When I'm in Kosovo, I'll compare it to Detroit in Gathering 04 :)

Kathy> I hope your doing okay. Sorry I missed you in Georgia. I have to cut down on cola, too. I need to lose weight and every calorie counts.

Stephanie D.> <<After all of that, the UN is a great (read: safe, job-secure, excellent benefits, opportunity to travel and continue education, friendly, multi-ethnic, oddballs accepted, lots of parties at lunch time, real sense of accomplishment and participation, etc.) place to work.>>

Funny. I always thought of the UN as a sprawling buearecracy that could rival the uS Government in being beaurecratic.

DPH> When helping people sell businesses, get paid in advance ;)

Demona Tania> I remember you.

Imzadi> I'm gald you accomplished so much at GE. I was a failure at my internship so many years ago, but I learned I do not want to be a stockbroker, so I accomplished something.

Kathy> I don't care for sports, period. The only reason the World Cup regsitered to me was because the Germans were so obnoxious about beating us.

Stephanie D.> <> Kind of like the South a century ago.

<<Did you know short people do worse economically then their vertically-gifted brethren?>> I guess they're shorter on cash, too :)

<<No, cats do that too.>> Like Attila :)

<<Actually, you could probably argue, if one were inclined, that Communism is a religion. To whit, the worship of the state *as* God, rather then being backed by God. And hey, it's another thing you have to accept on faith �cause you sure can't prove it by works. ;)>> Well, in a society where it is illegal to worship a supernatural God, you need to create a natural substitute and for Communism, it is the state. I think the same goes for secular humanism, or they worship the accomplishments of mankind (which is a pretty sorry thing to worship). Science can become a religious deity, too. So can nature.

But to get back to Communism, it is more of a cult than a normal religion. It depended on absolutist mass murdering leaders (Stalin), convinced people that living in shit was paradise, and controlled one's life to a much greater extent than most maintsream faiths.

Now, we jsut need the whole world to finally admit Communism was a failure.

BTW, if I was an airplane security guard, I'd give you a random stop, too :)

Spacebabie> <> And Florida would never have Jerry Brown for a Governor or Barbara Boxer for a Senator :)

And South Beach is cheaper than San Francisco :)

Gside> <<When the topics were still fresh. Cannon's pretty much been run over with a fine toothed comb, and production is slow. But the good thing about this place is that we still talk.>> Also, the people back then. DumlaoX and Zath. Batya, Merlin Missy. I miss them. Airwalker used to post, too. I did feel more welcome in this CR back then. Nowadays, I don't know how I feel in here.

Greg B.> If you ever put Jesus above Demona, we'd start to worry.

Imzadi <<It took you half of TTC to pack!? Damn.>> There were 15 Commandemnets, but Moses dropped a tablet :)

DPH> <<*opens another page in the book and reads "Yea though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of Death I will fear no evil".* >> How about wannabe evil, like Greg B. :)

Jannie> Well, at least the house is getting smaller, so you can relax a bit.

Off to breakfast
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau, Germany
Friday, August 16, 2002 01:57:23 AM
IP: 62.104.212.95

Imzadi> <<they'd be the center of western civilization instead of California>>: Tell that to New York.
<<Vermont>>: Eh, Vermont used to be part of New Hampshire.
<<A thing girls use to make themselves smooth>>: Ah. I like smooth girls.
<<Stop going home>>: but the room and board is free.
<<What am I going to do with daughters?>>: Turn them into concubines.
<<programs don't automatically take up the entire screen>>: But I like having some programs take up all the screen.
<<Doesn't make it worth while>>: Sorry, it's been a while. I'm used to not feeling much pain with multiple simultaneous downloads.

Gabriel> <>: Well, if that's all you do...

Aaron> <<Have some cookies>>: Are they... conpulisve cookies?
<<the highway's usually an elevated freeway>>: Ah. But it's not worth elevating it over small towns, and cities do tend to have something of the sort.
<<Sadly, no>>: That makes Boo sad.

Lain> <<exits humming "the war of 1812">>: I rather like the Battle of 1814, for its Dementedness.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, August 15, 2002 11:36:46 PM
IP: 68.38.240.227

Anybody know much about helicopters? My usual resources (okay, my GURPS books) aren't being as helpful as I'd hoped. Having ridden in one all of once, my experience and knowledge of them is rather limited. Basically, I need to crash one in the book I'm working on and want just enough detail to not look like a complete idiot ; )

It's going to be a long week. I've just finished my usual four shifts, have tonight off, and then begin a stretch of six nights in a row. Twenty hours of overtime, whee! Should pay for plane tickies for me and Becca to visit my kin at Xmas. Then Dragonflight the following weekend. I won't be around much for a while, I guess!

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:42:48 PM
IP: 65.239.47.174

*kicks all of her typos and blames it on the demons* Sorry, had to post this before any of you say "TYPO Queen" or something really pathetically stupid. :P
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:33:44 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Ravyn> I've been around, just EXTREMELY lurky. *puts on her cloak*

Baron> *kicks him playfully* Meanie.

Todd Jensen> YES, I know it is called Pendragon but second three just mostly evolved around the gargoyles themselves for a while and I got attached to the characters than the actual human characters, except for Emrys and Mary.

I DID? *grabs herself* You broke my dream!

ANYWAY, wanting to give my first real life rant of the day for me...
This is my... *thinks* 5th day of school as a senior! Classes are okay, I can't switch teachers because "I need the class to graduate". Okay, I know I need the class but it doesn't mean I need the SAME teacher that failed me sophmore year in Algebra I. Other than that, I love my schedule. I got four elective classes which takes up most of my morning so Math and Literature isn't into really the afternoon.
Lets see... Well, my dad's parents are here visiting. And they took over my room for the weekend. *grumbles*
Another, well Baron did say that Robby and I gotten engaged, yes we are. Robby proposed to me on my birthday, June 4th right after A-kon was over. *is still a bit dramatized by Aaron's driving* So we're going to get married in 2 1/2 years, I got to finish high school and tech school.
I'm going to be a nurse! Yay!
I'm going to delivery babies! Yay?
My mom actually suggested of Robby and his family, me and my family, and some close friends to go to Florida for one of those "Walt Disney Fairy Tale Weddings". It looks good enough, financially wise. :D

BUT ANYWAY, that is enough of my rant. *goes back on her AIM, watching Screensavers on Techtv*
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:30:35 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Just a couple of quick things...

Aaron> no, they don't mail you a ticket... after clocking your speed from the helicopter or low flying plane that they are in, they radio ahead to the state trooper that is sitting along side of the road that is a mile or so ahead of you. He tags you and gives you the ticket for speeding.
This is common procedure for areas where there are long stretches of highway such as the panhandle of Oklahoma and Kansas. Not enough patrolmen to adequately handle the amount of traffic.
*disclaimer* I am not trying to be a "know it all" - I just happen to know what the procedures are for this. I've been caught by them before ;)

On a personal note - Anna closed on her house and is the in the process of moving in! yippee!!! Maybe now I can get my own house back in order. Between her, Zach and her 2 dogs, it's been a losing battle for me to keep my house cleaned.

Josh> congrats! *mumbles* brown-noser ;) j/k!
This will look good on your resume when you are ready to work full time after college =)

Stephanie and Heather> great to see you posting again! :)

Link: do people really buy crap like this??? morons.

Ravyn> awww *hugs* when will you be seeing Coyote again?
Glad you quit your stressful job - you have enough on your plate to do without messing with jerks at work.

Sorry, don't have time for more replies... hopefully later!

"I love my cliente; they are so stupid! This makes my job so much easier."
~drug enforcement officer at work~
Jan - [<-- for mature readers only]
Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:22:30 PM
IP: 12.215.180.182

josh>> re: <<"You're kidding, right? Canada has a warship?" asked U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. "Like for war?
"Does Canada know?" he added>>
..
..
good GRIEF that was one of the FUNNIEST things ive read in a long time! :D i almost fell out of my chair! especially the part about "initial findings indicate that the Vancouver crew may have been watching too many American television shows" priceless.
:D

*exits humming "the war of 1812" by the arrogant worms "they ran so fast they forgot to take their culture...."

hee hee, thanks josh, i needed a good laugh today :) even better to have it at my own expense ;)
lain iwakura
Thursday, August 15, 2002 09:14:29 PM
IP: 65.92.91.216

GXB> <<Help, I'm a compulsive spender.>> Welcome to the dark side. Have some cookies. <<Well, I'm turning 21 on Sunday.>> Congratulations and happy b-day. <<Already got an early birthday gift. a new black leather trenchcoat.>> Excellent! <<Finally got to throw away that ratty old cloth thing I've been wearing for the past four years... the black was fading on that thing also. It looked terrible and I'm glad to be rid of it.>> My first trenchcoat was also cloth, and it went like that towards the end. I couldn't throw it away tho'. It's still on one of my closets somewhere. <<Hell, you remembered a lot more than I did, and I wrote mine only a few days after the con ended. What does that say?>> That I got to use yours and a couple of others as prompts. <> Good idea. <<Hey, I didn't arrive till the next day. Must have been Greg Guler. Argh, too many Gregs.>> Whoops. Oh well, all Gathering Diaries must contain at least one glaring typo. <> It's new. It needed explanation. <<Next year, you are going down. I swear it!>> But I thought we were on the same team next year. <> Cops usually evoke that reaction from me.

Gside> <<Come now, we've also got clearly marked rest stops.>> It's just not the same. <<Besides, you'd have to slow down in towns.>> Slow down? Bwahahahahahahaha! Not really. Inside towns, the highway's usually an elevated freeway. But it still runs through the center of town. <<Would you rather have taken the Parkway? 35� every x miles.>> I'd rather not pay for roads twice. Once through local and federal taxes is more then enough. <<Did anyone do Minsc?>> Sadly, no. <<Nope, just a very ugly strep infection that destroyed his lungs.>> Ah. My bad.

Spacebabie> <> What kind? I might take you up on that next time. <<Made me purr.>> I'll... pass that along. <<Hey you are a MARRIED man>> And it was my better half, not me, who felt you up, remember? <<He had Logan's hairstyle.>> Really?!? I didn't think that haircut was humanly possible. Well, except for Pete Rose circa 1975. <<Me too, I have Unicorn U. as well but I can't seem to find Gnome Man's Land.>> Have you tried Amazon.com?

Lain> <<that was one loooooong post, my friend. at the time, it was nearly half the CR!>> Well, it needed a boost.

Leo> <<Examples from I-35: "Wonderworld," "Sea World," "Schliterbahn">> Never been to the first, but I never had any trouble finding the other two. The only really weird thing in Texas is that any place settled by Germans, the access road will have two-way traffic. That's kind of disconcerting. <<Nothing but bluebonnets and grass for miles.>> Where in Texas were you? I've never felt the kind of total isolation from civilization I did making the trip from Richmond to Williamsburg.

Josh> <<I've won the intern of the year award for GE Nuclear. I get a check for almost a week's pay and an all expense paid trip to New York at the end of september to the leadership training center.>> Congratulations. <<Couldn't get the woman to help?>> I didn't help her pack her bag. Fair's fair. <<It took you half of TTC to pack!? Damn.>> I have no excuse. <<Next time try not wearing all black, a leather trenchcoat, and dark shades.>> Well, I wasn't wearing the coat or the shades... But I guess the black T-shirt and jeans combo might have been too much. <<Whenever I lose my Oakleys I get a sinking feeling in my stomach...and its not caused by the thought of forking over more cash.>> Oww. At least they weren't Oakleys. Just $10 cheapies from WalMart. But I'd had them for a couple of years. <<How does she walk when she's not with you?>> This way. <<Absolutely! But I think a Mercedes coupe would "compliment" me better ;-)>> But you'd keep Boomer, even if you got the Mercedes, right? <<Hell, I was nervous driving 400 miles in my own car.>> Truthfully, I was more freaked about getting in and out of NYC then anything in between. (Those people are scary) <<It means they have planes taking pictures of you.>> And then they mail me my ticket? <<Whatever people said about me probably isn't true.>> I don't think you came up. <<I'm amazed it was planned enough to have a pre-final polish!>> I'm a really good polisher. ;) <<Yes, but does it take you an HOUR!?>> Well, the hour was for both of us to shower and for whoever went second to get dressed. <<Are you really a woman?>> I am the b1tch in the relationship. ;) <<Didn't it cost money to go to the banquet?>> For once, no. <<Did someone at the con eat the other half?>> I plead the fifth. <<Fortunately, you had sunglasses...right?>> Not in my Xanatos costume. <<Did any of those rules get violated?>> Sadly, no. <<Isn't that what my brother said?>> I think so. <<For men its about 20-22.>> Cr@p. Short for life then. <<Isn't it illegal to not pay your parking tickets over there?>> And? These are the French we're talking about. The police are probably on strike or something. <<Post it, post it!>> Nah. I'd have to see the movie again to refresh myself. <<Lucky charms are not necessarily transferrable.>> Then why do those kids keep chasing Lucky? ;)

DPH> <<Of course and nobody will set up the next people to fail, but all the same, I imagine some bragging rights are involved.>> I guess. <<How much times does it take to place that game?>> According to my brother, less four days of less then solid play.

Oh, and I have a new fic up in the archive. The third and final part of the Valentine's Day MiST. **This has been a shameless plug**

Later.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, August 15, 2002 06:33:03 PM
IP: 209.33.140.99

kathy > "Anybody have any good news?"

Well, let's see... I just got upgraded to a new computer at work. Or should I say, "Dude, I got a Dell!" It's a Pentium 4, 2.0 GHz, with 512 MB of RAM and a 60 GB hard disk. But the really sweet part is the monitor... 19" flat screen. The new PC also has a video card that supports dual screens... which I guess is supposed to be the big thing now for engineering and CAD work.

I also tracked down a tech manual for my laptop and figured out where that battery is. Thanks for the tip Josh... but I hate to break it to you... maybe it's true that Apple laptops need to be serviced by a trained tech to replace the CMOS battery, but on my IBM all I gotta do is loosen one screw and change it myself. Replacement was $3 at Radio Shack... and that beats a $50 service charge at Best Buy any day. >:)
Patrick Toman
Thursday, August 15, 2002 06:04:21 PM
IP: 67.38.244.51

Still dealing with Michigan-withdrawl ... I keep looking around trying to find the huge rivers, silly Canadians, and Pepsi Blue here in Arizona ... of course, we have none of those. ;) I really, really miss my Pepsi Blue (I think I got hooked on that stuff ... darn AZ for not getting products until 6 months after Michigan gets them!!)... and I miss Coyote, of course. ;)

I also quit my job two days ago, after a bunch of misunderstandings ... for one thing, they wanted me to work more hours than I could with my classes and all ... plus my boss was "annoyed with me" for taking classes and only working when I had free time ... and they knew I was classified as a *student* employee! Oh, well ... I was a little miffed that she was annoyed with me over giving up my free time to work for her ... and combined with all the other things they've bothered me with over the past 6 months or so, I just decided to quit. It's not worth the hassle anymore, and they can hire someone else to work a million more hours than I can and get annoyed with them.

But I've already gotten another job offer to work at this copy place on campus ... ;)

Demona Taina> Welcome back! It's good to see you around again. :)

Josh> <<You should see the inside of a nuclear power plant>> Oh, now that's just *scary.* ;) <<2 of my classes cancelled>> Good luck! What a pain. Of course they were probably 2 classes that you needed, right? Hope you can find a way around it all right. I had one of my classes switch times on me, but luckily it was to a time that I had free so I can keep the class.

Howdy, Heather! Good to see you around again too. :)

Gunjack> Glad to see you too! Are you doing better after the accident and all? Hope you're all better or at least gettin' there! :)

Coyote> Hi, honey! :)

Later, everybody ...
Ravyn - [ravymaza@dakotacom.net]
Thursday, August 15, 2002 04:30:58 PM
IP: 150.135.118.31

And, mocking the canadians:

http://www.satirewire.com/news/feb02/warship.shtml
Josh
Thursday, August 15, 2002 04:16:51 PM
IP: 12.36.152.153

Kathy: Just one idea.
Josh
Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:42:36 PM
IP: 63.65.68.246

I still can't get into my email account without doing three variations on a handstand. I'm running out of ideas. I think I must have corrupted some kind of esoteric file because deloading and reloading both of my browsers didn't work. Can upgrading the operating system be far behind? For the record, I tried getting on from a different computer and had no problems. Anybody have any ideas? Anybody? Bueller?

Wilek > Thanks for the college memories of Meat Science Class. I haven't seen or thought about some of that equipment in years.

Not much else to say. I was disappointed by 42nd Street. I knew that they had included many of the songs from "Dames" (another 1930's Dick Powell/Ruby Keeler movie) but I didn't know why. Turns out they rewrote the book (story) part of the play lifted generously from "The Bandwagon" (a Fred Astaire/Cyd Charisse movie -specifically the husband and wife writing team played by Nannette Fabres and Oscar Levant). The staging was good, the dancers could dance and the singers could sing, but I liked the story told in the movie and this wasn't it. 42nd Street was the original "A Chorus Line" a drama set on the backstage of a broadway show, what I saw last night was a glitzy musical comedy with some really ham handed dramatic speechifying thrown in now and again. Blarg.
Oh well. Anybody have any good news?
kathy
Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:23:25 PM
IP: 66.32.96.159

neck-breaker> I never thought breaking a chicken's neck could be so difficult as to proprogate the demand for a semi-automatic neck-breaker. Odd......just......odd. o_O
Gabriel "gaygoyle"
Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:08:43 PM
IP: 129.120.35.51

Click my name for the coolest online store ever. They have a semi-automatic neck breaker. In case you didn't read that right--a Semi. Automatic. Frelling. NECK BREAKER. YEE HAWWW!!!! 8D
Wilek
Thursday, August 15, 2002 08:53:49 AM
IP: 128.241.245.34

Hello everyone. Not much news in my life, except that as of October, I'm taking a nice six month deployment to Kosovo.

Heather> I'm glad to see you posting here again. Well, i definitely remember you, as I was in your house a month ago ;)

Lawrence Stone> My emails are way backed up. I must have forgotten to email you. Sorry. Will email soon.

Christine> Email's coming your way, too.

Not too much else at the moment. Bigger post coming soon.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Hanau, Germany
Thursday, August 15, 2002 07:31:43 AM
IP: 140.156.6.2

HEATHER - Sorry, but actually (without giving too much away), we won't be seeing very much of the London clan in future seasons of "Pendragon". The focus is going to be around Arthur and his knights, rather than the London gargoyles (and we're even - again, without giving too much away - going to be gradually moving them out of London, and even Britain). The name of the series, after all, is "Pendragon" rather than "Gargoyles UK".

As for the recruitment drive; I'm afraid that it's over and that you just missed it.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, August 15, 2002 07:12:55 AM
IP: 65.57.56.21

Gside> I know production is slow. I like Gargoyles and Timedancer but my favorite right now is Pendragon so I want to see what happens more with the London clan.

To anyone> Is it true the TGS staff is looking for people? Because Gargoyles News CEntral was talking about TGS is looking for people to do Pendraon? Is this true?
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Thursday, August 15, 2002 06:28:57 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

GXB - <Don't make me smite you.> *opens another page in the book and reads "Yea though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of Death I will fear no evil".*
DPH
Thursday, August 15, 2002 01:49:17 AM
IP: 204.94.193.12

WELL WELL WELL Wilek. I assure you I have nothing to do with that nightmare, its an ass hole. My master Dream of the Endless creates and governs over all dreams and nightmares.
But I am intersted to hear of this mansion. Tell me, was there ither a fat man with a small gargoyle or a tall man with red hair who sounded like vincient price killing the fat one?

and rember Keep those eyes open ;}
The Corinthian
The Dreaming, Dream
Thursday, August 15, 2002 01:23:02 AM
IP: 66.168.171.9

DPH> Don't make me smite you.
Greg Bishansky
Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:59:26 AM
IP: 216.179.1.20

Winterwolf & Dreamie - good to see you back.

Imzadi - <WHY are you using Windows ME? That is widely known to be the worst 9x version.> Because it was preinstalled.

Wilek - when do you plan on using those special missiles on DC?

GXB - <Okay, you all get two CR-Gods in one day.> *Pulls out a copy of the Ten Commandments and reads Thou shalt have no other gods before me*

Aaron - <A little friendly competition, perhaps, but no staff roots for another to fail, so they'll look better in comparison.> Of course and nobody will set up the next people to fail, but all the same, I imagine some bragging rights are involved. <Got WarCraft III?> How much times does it take to place that game? <Dude, that's kinda harsh.> Hey, it came out earlier than expected. Besides, I have to let out pessimistic side of me out every once in a while. Congrats on doubling the current size of the CR.

Kathy - <It's possible the trouble you're having is with Microsoft Auto Update. (The ultimate trojan horse program) and the cross we bear for not being Mac users.> I think I finally figured it out. When I stopped the computer from reconnecting, the two choices were "Work offline" and "Connect to the Internet". I get the feeling it's Windows that's my problem, not a hacker.

Gunjack - <HeeeEEEEREEE'S JOHNNY!!!> When you get fully settled into your college dorm (or mostly settled into it), I need to schedule a visit to you on a Saturday. Just a couple of hours to hang out.
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:48:55 AM
IP: 204.94.193.12

Hey everyone, long time no post.
We missed you all. ^_^
We just wanted to let you know we just put up out Gathering pictures if you'd like to see 'em. There are good pics of many of you that came out rather well. The url is:
http://www.cs.albany.edu/~davanzo/dreamie/photo/gathering.html

We haven't finished our gathering story yet, but when we do we'll let you know ;)
Dreamie and Winterwolf
Seattle
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:33:56 PM
IP: 12.231.72.230

Well, I suppose I should start the posting deal.

Today was my second to last day of work. Just one more left. I've been cleaning out my desk and taking care of last minute items, meeting with HR to see if I'll come back next year, etc.

Yesterday I forked over the cash for the Apple DVI-ADC adapter (which actually cost me *less* than its competition from Dr. Bott). So now I have the adapter and the video card sitting here, while the tower and monitor are up at Berkeley. Argh.

Oh well, hopefully I'll get a chance to put it together on Friday before I drive home.

Well this is interesting...seems I've won the intern of the year award for GE Nuclear. Only 55 out of the 2000 interns in all of GE get this award. I get a check for almost a week's pay and an all expense paid trip to New York at the end of september to the leadership training center. SCORE!

replies

DPH: <<How would I go about proving that theory?>>: Ask all the hackers if they've hacked you. <<If I can figure out what exactly are the minimum programs needed to run in the background for Windows:ME to work, I'd shut the rest down>>: WHY are you using Windows ME? That is widely known to be the worst 9x version.

Gunjack: <<two consecutive rolls in an SUV>>: Which SUV?

Kathy: <<the cross we bear for not being Mac users>>: Wow, never thought I'd hear someone say that (though it is true - there aren't any documented viruses for OS X yet and its been out two years). When I was standing outside the Apple Store yesterday, some kid walked by and shouted "Apple Sucks!" at the top of his lungs. <>: Good call. <<it could be worse, some people can't eat shrimp>>: Or Chcocolate! <<It sounds like your internship worked out better than you thought it might a few weeks ago, good for you>>: Thank you. I'm rather pleased with the way it turned out.

Crzy: <<the first bit of quiet I have had in over 12 years>>: I am never having kids.

Aaron: <<Or put anything in that didn't happen>>: I often give my roommate crap for remembering stuff that didn't happen. <>: Couldn't get the woman to help? <<the first half of The Ten Commandments>>: It took you half of TTC to pack!? Damn. <<Next time, e-tickets>>: Good call. They work well. <>: Next time try not wearing all black, a leather trenchcoat, and dark shades. <<then wonders why it won't close>>: Gotta love airport security. <>: NOOOOO! <<which irks me to no end>>: Dude, I feel your pain. Whenever I lose my Oakleys I get a sinking feeling in my stomach...and its not caused by the thought of forking over more cash. <<we forgot something a little more important: Lynati's feet>>: How does she walk when she's not with you? <<Ninety percent of my music collection is cassettes>>: Old fart. <<Do you feel like you have a bond with your car? I mean, to the point where it's like a pet or something? That it knows you and you know it, and you compliment each other? Just curious>>: Absolutely! But I think a Mercedes coupe would "compliment" me better ;-) <<Six hundred miles by map through unfamiliar territory with an unbonded vehicle>>: That sucks. I'd be nervous. Hell, I was nervous driving 400 miles in my own car. <<The source of the sunburn Mara and especially I was sporting the whole con>>: Ha ha. <<Eastern states have no idea how to build highways>>: Of course not. If they did, they'd be the center of western civilization instead of California. <<WTH does that mean?>>: It means they have planes taking pictures of you. <<the fandom in general>>: Whatever people said about me probably isn't true. <<final polish on our presentation>>: I'm amazed it was planned enough to have a pre-final polish! <>: They've obviously never been to Los Angeles. <<Hudson had a really nifty-sounding announcement about starting an art archive that works like the fic archive does>>: They had the same announcement at G2k1. Don't hold yer breath. <>: Yes, but does it take you an HOUR!? Are you really a woman? <<Two, the Praying Gargoyle is an Atlantean artifact. Three, the PG regenerates over time>>: What's really important is whether or not Demona knows it. <<The food was burgers and dogs, with a side of mac and cheese. Free, and therefore better then a kick in the head, as my grandmother is wont to say>>: Didn't it cost money to go to the banquet? <<Spacebabie will never again be mistaken for jailbait, and will probably have to fight off the propositions with a stick next year>>: Somehow, I doubt it. <<... Maybe... All things are true>>: LOL! <<2.5 kids>>: Did someone at the con eat the other half? <<It is really hard to maintain eye contact with Spacebabie while she's dressed like that>>: Fortunately, you had sunglasses...right? <<1. No slowing time. 2. No warping space. 3. No flying through the air sideways in slow motion. 4. Hits on the coat count as hits>>: Did any of those rules get violated? <<Dude, is that permanent>>: Isn't that what my brother said? <>: And that was a beautifully told fight, btw. <<next year Nerf War will be an official event>>: I can't wait to go. <<stupid things I did while drunk" segment of the evening>>: Are you sure it was just a segment and not the whole evening? <<Entropy is such a b!tch>>: Yes, but has very little to do with my car. <<So far, we've got Greg>>: And me! Don't forget me! <<Actually, cats are safer in a fall from two stories then two feet. A long fall gives them plenty of time to land on their feet>>: Its still quite a fall. <<Really? Cool>>: Yup. Its my great grandmother's maiden name. <<I'm hoping at like age 30. So I can grow some more>>: For men its about 20-22. <<So people refuse to pay them for *years* hoping for an election>>: Isn't it illegal to not pay your parking tickets over there? <<But weren't you guys all happy when you kicked our @$$es at hockey?>>: Of course they kicked our @$$es at hockey. All our hockey players come from Canadia. <<It's like family. It *is* family>>: Which explains why I have pictures of my car in my wallet instead of my ex girlfriends. <<that's why I, and a lot of people like me, will never give them up>>: Amen! <<Are you volunteering>>: She wouldn't last long. She loses to me. <<Did you know short people do worse economically then their vertically-gifted brethren>>: Not surprising, really. <<Which also would have included the words "derivative" and "badly edited">>: Post it, post it! <>: He's strong enough to wear a turbine on his head, I think. <<They obviously weren't lucky for the rabbit now were they?>>: Lucky charms are not necessarily transferrable. <<Does that make the human race legally intoxicated>>: As if you needed to ask this question.

Greg X: <<You all disappoint me>>: You try building a nuclear power plant sometime. <<people like me who think that Demona's better than Jesus>>: When you say better, do you mean nicer or cooler? <<Timedancer is coming very soon>>: So is Ron Jeremy. <<Well, I'm turning 21 on Sunday>>: Bastard. I've got 5 weeks. <<Registration will be available soon>>: Good. Because I'm sure as hell going this year. <<but you never know what will happen when "Timedancer" ends and we need another series to replace it>>: Yeah right, like that day will come. <<What does that say?>>: That you should smoke less weed? <<It's in the Book>>: HAHAHA. <<what the f-ck, are these people crazy>>: The answer, of course, is yes. <<Aaron and I can really do that. Black trenchcoat powers combined with Con Staff powers>>: Uh huh. Right. <<you are going down. I swear it>>: No comment. <<Going to be an official event next year>>: YES!

Wilek: <<Have you tried addicting it to pot?>>: LOL!

Gside: <<You're just now realizing that>>: No. <<Granite? Maple sugar?>>: Vermont. <<Razor? What's that?>>: A thing girls use to make themselves smooth. <>: Stop going home. <<Let's hear it for SUVs>>: WOOT! <<don't Imzadi and I get the daughters>>: What am I going to do with daughters? <<I'd say just the video drives would be enough for a first try>>: NEIN! The solution is to reinstall winblows!

Spacebabie: <<Can I get a glass of rum and coke?>>: How will that help with a cell phone? <<Your doing THAT in front of all the guys>>: Who else would be more entertained? <<Sorry Josh it's not the kind of touch you want to do>>: CURSES! <<They jerked you around for most of the summer, then at the end give you actual work>>: Pretty much, yeah. <<Him or her body>>: Her body and his desire of it. <<and a good kind of aftershave>>: I don't use aftershave. <>: So is that good or bad? <>: They only check you so they can cop a feel. <<Waking up early is evil>>: Amen! <<Another reason to bring the old man>>: You don't want your old man fighting off propositions for you. No one will hit on you again. <<wanted to know if we were all art students>>: Sure, if by "art" you mean "on crack".

Lain: <<oh pfft. thats HOCKEY, thats a TOTALLY different story>>: Yeah, Canadians can kick anyones ass at hockey. <<for what, pray tell, would one need two monitors>>: See, on a mac, programs don't automatically take up the entire screen, so its easier to do multiple things at once. I'll be using it for chat windows, browser windows, and anything else I see fit, because I will have 3 million pixels of space! Or "Reason not the need. I wanted it, so I took it."

Leo: <<No more hammering>>: All out of fingers, then? <<can't wait for the new Timedancer so we can do something other than BS about our lives>>: I think we'll be doing that anyway. <<carrying a 21" CRT up just 1 flight sucks even more>>: Maybe. <<Angela payed more attention to Demona than to her>>: Well, Demona was evil. You do have to watch out for her.

Gside: <<If you have to ask, you won't get it>>: Or use it. <<There are utilities that let you resumre downloads>>: Doesn't make it worth while.

Okay, off tonight. Decided to drive up to Berkeley tomorrow night instead of Friday morning.

How'd they win? Well, they scored more points than we did.
-Larry Wurzel, on the 76'ers/Lakers playoffs

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
San Jose, CA, US of A
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:20:12 PM
IP: 207.214.212.119

Spacebabie> <<Birdie Yale?>>: Nope, Birdie, Sabertooth's assistant. I think she was killed in comic continuity, but she's present in Marvel vs. Capcom 2, and other fighting games in which he participates.
<<Do innocent people have tarnished halos?>>: You can still retain some portions of your innocense, while the rest is gone. Just look a Wilek.
<<Waking up early is evil>>: And I must do it to continue the wall.
<>: But what mortal hand or eye could frame it's fearful symmetry?
<<He had Logan�s hairstyle>>: Nay, I've got more in the back, And it won't stand up on its own.

Lain> <<for what, pray tell, would one need two monitors?>>: If you have to ask, you won't get it.

Leo> <<f she knows about golden showers then it's safe to say she knows about watersports>>: But not by that name.
<<I'm curious, but not enough to wait for a 4Meg download on dial-up>>: There are utilities that let you resumre downloads.

Heather> <<*remembers the good ol'days*>>: When the topics were still fresh. Cannon's pretty much been run over with a fine toothed comb, and production is slow. But the good thing about this place is that we still talk.

And another mp3. More Yoko Kanno? Sure. The Egg and You, from Cowboy Bebop. Bonus point if you can guess what it reminds me of and will be the next mp3.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:53:28 PM
IP: 68.38.240.227

Leo> Oh I know. I like reading everyon'e lives every once and a while but we need serious gargoyles talking again... *remembers the good ol'days*

Spacebabie> Yes, I'm back. I feel welcomed already.

Kathy> I'm surprised. *feels even more welcomed*

*sits in her computer chair and waits for her beloved, but looks at her wallscroll of Vash from TRigun for a while to keep her company*

Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:00:07 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

The new roof is finished. No more hammering.

What else..........?

Nope, that's it. On to replies.
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Kathy:<<I've developed a violent reaction to soft drinks and I can't have them any more>>Noooooooooooooooooooooo!

Heather:<<Hey, its good to see someone at least talking about Gargoyles or TGS again.>>Yeah, can't wait for the new Timedancer so we can do something other than BS about our lives :)

Gside:<<Someone who has not yet learned what watersports are>>If she knows about golden showers then it's safe to say she knows about watersports.<<Hubba Hubba Zoot Zoot, by Caramba>>I'm curious, but not enough to wait for a 4Meg download on dial-up. :P

Aaron:<<In Texas, highways actually go *through* places>>Yep. They're called "Counties."<<None of this "here's an exit, some undetermined distance down which there *might* be a town" stuff>>Texas has some of that as well only replace "town" with "tourist attraction" - Examples from I-35: "Wonderworld," "Sea World," "Schliterbahn"<<trees. Nothing but trees for miles>>..wildflowers. Nothing but bluebonnets and grass for miles. Oh look, grain silo "BINGO" :)<<Did you know short people do worse economically then their vertically-gifted brethren>>Well we short guys have other advantages: we're not as likley to suffer from arthritis or other bone diseases. What's another one.....? Bwaaaaaaaaahaaahaa, Bieng a short guy sucks. We don't get any respect. :P

GXB:<<Yes, we have Greg Weisman. More will come.>> try to get Carl Johnson for us wannabe film composers. :)

Josh:<<carrying a 17" CRT up 4 flights of stairs SUCKS>>carrying a 21" CRT up just 1 flight sucks even more.<>I thought it was the trip to Avalon thing. Or that she felt Angela payed more attention to Demona than to her.

Spacebabie:<<The little girl who played Bo was domo Kawaii>> But they messed up by casting one of them Culkin boys as the asthmatic son.<>Now I'm nolonger sure about what I said earlier. There's water sports and there's "water sports" wink wink, nudge nudge..
Leo
Yorktown, VA
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 02:14:41 PM
IP: 172.145.79.228

*slithers in and curls up in the lap of the gunjack, purring.* hes back.. (sorta)

hit rock bottom last night. it was not fun. i had the biggest headache of all time, and was throwing up and generally bad. still have a headache today, but nowhere near as bad. thank goodness. my exams are on friday and saturday. this week. uugh. *dies*

gunjack>> <<I'm back, I'm bad, and I'm here for yer daughters>> you are?! *sniffs* im so hurt.. *sniffsniff* <<gads, woman, I've been waiting for an hour! Didja fall in?>> yes. yes i did. <<More later, after I've slaked my thirst for anime, hellboy, and the blood of the innocent. Toodles!>> speaking of.. i need to send you the specs for the hellsing institute guns.. i want to see your eyes pop out of your head.. ;)

aaron>> <<It's bigger. Thus, "Texan.">> ooooooh i see.. *blinks*... oooooOOOOOoohhhh.. i SEE... ;) <<When the French elect a new president, they forgive everyone's parking tickets>> cool. plus, if i lived in france, my birthday would be a national holiday! WOO! <<But weren't you guys all happy when you kicked our @$$es at hockey?>> oh pfft. thats HOCKEY, thats a TOTALLY different story.. ;) but seriously, i hate hockey. if the flag-waving had gone on for more than a day i would have been really annoyed. oh, and ive realized theres something else that ticks me off more than obnoxious flag waving.. and that is obnoxious flag waving with bad ettiquite. if yer gonna wave em, at least do it right, sheesh :P <<One, it was post-9/11 feel-good cr@p>> mm yeah <<and two, it was so completely *wrong*.
Spidey, at least, at this stage of his career, is *not* a beloved New York icon>> that too. ya geek! ;) <<And yeah, the enormous flag at the end bugged me too>> oh, go take your american-hating blather somewhere else, would you? :P

that was one loooooong post, my friend. at the time, it was nearly half the CR!

josh>> <<And God Said: Bless this thy holy power plant, that thou may nuke thine enemies to three-eyed-children, in thy mercy>> lol. <<That will allow me to actually *use* two monitors instead of just having them both sit on my desk like they are now>> for what, pray tell, would one need two monitors? <<I've been more productive in the last three days than i have been in the last 10 weeks. What's up with that?>> wish *I* had that problem :P

steph>> <<Stephanie enters, lies down on the couch, and starts to pet the pussy>> um.. hmmmm... *puts an odd expression on and leaves that one alone*

greg b>> <<people like me who think that Demona's better than Jesus>> oh dear.

the corinthian>> <> mwa ha ha. i said nothing.. <<*wink wink*>> .. indeeeeed.. ;) ;)
lain
the Great White North
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 01:04:53 PM
IP: 65.92.91.210

FRELL!

It was supposed to be "Who won't turn off his cell phone"
Spacebabie
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:02:58 PM
IP: 67.25.51.95

There is an idiot behind us who shut off his cell phone. Can I get a glass of rum and coke?

Guess what Movie I saw last night?

Signs Rules*****************SPOILERS***********************
This is what ID4 should have been, but it didn't end up as. Well ID4 was an action sci fi movies. Sings is a supernatraul suspense movie.
I was gripping the edge of my seat at times. I loved the chameleon like aliens.
The little girl who played Bo was domo Kawaii
I loved Joaquin Phoenix's character. "Nerds who cant get girlfriends" "The nerds were right"
And thank you for the eye candy that is Joaquin. Mel is just too old for my tastes.
Tsk Tsk Mr Shamalayn you broke one of Hollywoods biggest rules.
"While humans may be stabbed, severed, and exploded no harm shall come to a dog."

You killed two dogs
***********************************************************
End Spoilers

Yeah some idiot a few rows behind us wouldn't turn off their cell phone.

Saw some good Trailers

1. Chicago((like the musical))
2.Star Trek Nemesis
3.The Two Towers and before the Two towers
4. The Ring

Question. Is The Ring an Americanized version of that Japanese movie that is like one of the scariets movies in the world.

Replies

Stephanie>>>Your doing THAT in front of all the guys?

Heather>>>> Hugglebunnies�Welcome Back!!!!

Sorow<<<I'll keep in touch,>>>Sorry Josh it�s not the kind of touch you want to do.

Gside<<<But even white supremacists like LOTR.>>>I know bunch of pricks.<<<Someone who has not yet learned what watersports are. >>> I know about water sports, but in Norway??? Isn�t that snow sports??? Yes I know, but doesn�t the water freeze the second it leaves the hose?<<<But why doesn't Birdie come when I call? >>>Birdie Yale???

Josh<<<I've only got three days of work left.>>> Yay!<<<I've been more productive in the last three days than i have been in the last 10 weeks.>>>They jerked you around for most of the summer, then at the end give you actual work.<<>>Him or her body.<<<It says they have bad taste.>>>Well duh<<<Frequent blade changes on the razor.>>>and a good kind of aftershave?<<<Does that mean that *I* smell like bread?>>>I believe they did kind of imply that.<<<You, I'd guess.>>>Do innocent people have tarnished halos?<<<The Dew does NOT count as soda.>>>More like something that gets you out of bed.

Jen<<<first FULL day of school!!>>>School stared over there as well??? I was right Florida is the Eastern version of California, except we have more water and they have more hippies.

Aaron<<<and I get stopped for a "random" check.>>>I so feel your pain.<<>>You are kind of like Brooklyn when it comes to sunglasses.<<<In Texas, highways actually go *through* places.>>>I noticed that when we drove from the DFW airport to Waco. down here its the same as rest of the East except for Jacksonville. You actually drive through Jacksonville <<<The source of the sunburn Mara and especially I was sporting the whole con>>>You guys didn�t look too red, compared to Winterwolf�s burn.<<<Back to the ramble... >>>Thou art a god but thou aint Greg W.<<<"get up early.>>>Waking up early is evil.<<<throwing a bucket of water on me would have gotten me moving before noon.>>>Instead it just took a bunch of us yammering in the hall. Sorry bout that.<<<I've been terrified of public speaking for as long as I can remember, and this was no exception.>>>I would have loaned you one of my pills.<<<He caused a bit of a stir.>>>Made me purr. <<<OtherCon.>>>More purring.<<<Which I thought sounded really appropriate and cool for about ten seconds before I realized it's also a terrible pun.>>>I picked it up immediately, of course I got pundar<<<Xanatos costume, but it worked, and opportunities to wear that purple coat are rare, so I went with it. Mara made a stunning Fox,>>>You two were adorable.<<<will probably have to fight off the propositions with a stick next year.>>>Another reason to bring the old man. <<<They gave me the fish-eye>>> They gave you Fisheye??? Cool I wish somebody would give me Tigerseye.<<>>I ran into some braver norms who wanted to know if we were all art students.<<<It is really hard to maintain eye contact with Spacebabie while she's dressed like that.>>>Hey you are a MARRIED man�hmm a Texan and a New Yorker too�the last time that happened the results were me and the�Oh god I�m sooo sorry :::sobs:::<<<How �bout Naga? >>>I don�t like getting drunk, although I can work on my annoying laugh.<<<Gside sounds more like Sabertooth.>>>He had Logan�s hairstyle.<<<Of Earth and Sky? Do you want a wish?>>>No of the CR.<<>>Me too, I have Unicorn U. as well but I can�t seem to find Gnome Man�s Land

GXB<<<Happy Spacebabie?>>> Purrs like a kitten.

Wilek<<<do wonder who that girl was>>>You dreaming about me again.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Fl
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:01:45 PM
IP: 67.25.51.95

Wilek: Quicktime 6 for Winblows has some problems, I've been trying to use it on Win2K at work. I'm totally unable to view any QT content with it. No idea what's up. Please submit a bug report to apple.

Patrick: All machines have a small secondary battery that is always on and powers the PRAM, a small chunk of memory that stores things like date, time, etc. when your computer is off. It sounds like you need to have it replaced. It shouldn't be too expensive, but I'd recommend getting a real tech to replace it.
Josh
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:53:11 AM
IP: 63.65.68.246

As long as people are asking tech help questions...

My laptop has been acting wonky lately. It's and IBM Thinkpad. Every time I boot it up, I get a code that the manual says means an "unspecified date / time" error and I get sent to the setup screen, where I have to re-enter the correct year, date and time. Then it finishes booting up and runs normally. I do my work and shut down... and the next day when I come back it does the same thing all over again. So is this just Windows 98 being stupid, or is there a small secondary battery I should start taking screws out of the back and looking for that needs replacing? Off all the things I've had go wrong with computers, I've never had one that did something as silly as lose track of the time and date after being powered off for less than 24 hours. And I should note that the main battery charge never gets lower than 95% during the same interim.

I've had a cold and been short on patience the past week, so I haven't called IBM tech support yet. Just thought I'd see first if anyone else has ever encountered a similar problem.
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 07:27:03 AM
IP: 67.38.244.51

A nightmare, is thee? You wouldn't happen to be involved in that one I had about the mansion in the foggy town? Child sacrifices, tsk tsk. I do wonder who that girl was... :P
Wilek
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 03:14:40 AM
IP: 128.241.245.34

Being a nightmare who recently came under new management, I have been look for ways to pass the time. And this Gargoyles show has had hold of me since its inception. It is a lovely crafted, dark searies. And I love what you have done to the searies. But I digress, my question is has anyone ever pitched any of these ideas to a network or animation company. I would very much love to see these stories done in Manga. *wink wink* I would enjoy that as much as the poping of an eye between my teeth. All though you would probably have to go through a lot of crap with Disney. but just something to think on.

See you i your nightmares ;}
The Corinthian
The Dreaming, The Dreaming
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:42:54 AM
IP: 66.168.171.9

Incidentally, this seems to be a bad week for computer problems--mine just now decided that it didn't want to play QuickTime movies anymore. (I'd just upgraded QT so I could watch the Silent Hill 3 trailer, and it worked the first time...but after the next time I started it up, it decided that QuickTime was not properly installed or some schiesse.) There can only be one response. [Wilek ties down Mr. Disconnect, cuts him open, and ties his intestines to the bumper of a drag race car.] And that's just the appetizer.
Wilek
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:23:10 AM
IP: 128.241.245.34

The wall is up. We've got specially aged manure. Now we're just waiting on the dogwood and the marmoset. And chicken's blood is just a given.

Imzadi> <>: You see, most of his recent stuff is from Mithril, but recently picked someone else's up from a Warhammer shop. The problem is, in neither Isildur at Gladden Fields nor Isildur and Elrond after the Siege of Barad D�r does he have a beard as in his new Sauron towering over Isildur and Elendil during the Siege, and the armor doesn't match on the two chronologically earliest ones. But he went and Dremeled off all of Isildur's detail work on his most recent.
<<Twisted man>>: You're just now realizing that?
<<Of course not>>: Pity.
<<Is anything local in NH?>>: Granite? Maple sugar?
<<Skip the webcomics. They're a bad habit anyway>>: Never. My precious.
<<Frequent blade changes on the razor>>: Razor? What's that?
<<This is a family oriented comment room>>: That, and it reduces Wilek's visits.
<<Could be worse. It could be a reaction to caffiene>>: Mayhap, but I get put on caffiene free diet when at home.
<>: Realize this is only to Rutgrs servers. But it's still rather nice to outside servers.
<<Isn't there a black person in it though?>>: Maybe the orcs, but they're evil. And the Woses don't come in until almst the end.
<<Innocent, or maybe just not SICK>>: Same thing. Besides, I said knows, not enjoys.

Gunjack> Woot.
<<two consecutive rolls in an SUV>>: Let's hear it for SUVs.
<<I'm here for yer daughters>>: : But you've got Lain, so don't Imzadi and I get the daughters?
<<rides madly off in all directions>>: That must hurt.

Todd> <<each time that I switch on the computer, it reverts to that "bizarro" setting>>: The battery keeping the RAM refreshed might have died. How old is it?

Katyh> <<it could be worse, some people can't eat shrimp>>: Too much iodine, messes with my mother's thyroid. I just don't like it.

Imzadi> <<In which case, the solution is, of course, to re-install winblows>>: I'd say just the video drives would be enough for a first try.

Aaron> <<the pseudo-leather thing that's supposed to cover the top when it's down blew off somewhere on the Jersey Turnpike>>: Score another one for Jersey.
<<None of this "here's an exit, some undetermined distance down which there *might* be a town" stuff>>: Come now, we've also got clearly marked rest stops. Even tells you what's there. Besides, you'd have to slow down in towns.
<<Toll roads are EVIL>>: Would you rather have taken the Parkway? 35� every x miles.
<<if I remembered any of Edwin the conjurer's lines from Baldur's Gate II>>: Did anyone do Minsc?
<<Well, points for originality then>>: Much thanks.
<<No, cats do that too>>: Hah, so I was right.
<>: Yes, since he's not updating, he's probably out molesting kittens.
<<How �bout Naga?>>: Depends on the laugh.
<<Gside sounds more like Sabertooth>>: Woohah. I don't trim my nails that short, too. But why doesn't Birdie come when I call?
<>: Nope, just a very ugly strep infection that destroyed his lungs.

Roy> <<hOW DO i STOP MY COMPUTER FROM REMEMBERING WHAT i TYPE?>>: Tell it not to. And take of caps lock.

Greg> <<Tolkien most likely was a racist>>: But he was modeling his world mostly around English references, so there isn't too much variation there. Haven't heard too much about his thoughts outside of his works, though.
<<It's in the Book>>: Do you live by the Book?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:02:53 AM
IP: 68.38.240.227

Roy> <<hOW DO i STOP MY COMPUTER FROM REMEMBERING WHAT i TYPE?>> Have you tried addicting it to pot?
Wilek
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:01:31 AM
IP: 128.241.245.34

Hey, folks.

Not much going on here. Just wanted to report that Tim's got another couple of Gargoyles things up on e-bay. A Puzz-3D and a Goliath yo-yo, if memory serves.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:01:21 AM
IP: 65.239.47.66

Okay, you all get two CR-Gods in one day. Happy Spacebabie?

Been lurking, so I've been keeping an eye on all of you. Though for a few days, S8 was busier than this CR. You all disappoint me. Though S8 did have that interesting debate between Goliath fans, and people like me who think that Demona's better than Jesus ;)

Been busy, been working. Planning G'2003, and the new season of TGS... Timedancer is coming very soon, I assure you. Bought about ten DVDs in the last month... I'm addicted. Last week i bought "The Silence of the Lambs", "Lord of the Rings", and "Bram Stoker's Dracula" on DVD all at once. Help, I'm a compulsive spender.

Well, I'm turning 21 on Sunday. Finally. Already got an early birthday gift. a new black leather trenchcoat. Finally got to throw away that ratty old cloth thing I've been wearing for the past four years... the black was fading on that thing also. It looked terrible and I'm glad to be rid of it.

On to replies...

LA> <<Wow. Okay, reading the Gathering Diary was totally fun!>> Aaron writes the best Gathering Diaries <<When is G2K3 and how can I buy tickets??? Answers Please!>> Registration will be available soon. We just need to get a couple things set up.

JOSH> <<Aren't you usually a complete asshole?>> Well, I am usually tired. <<Do you guys have a guest list yet?>> Yes, we have Greg Weisman. More will come.

KATHY> <<Not a jerk. But you were busy.>> And dead tired. <<Btw, if I can resolve some RL issues in the next little while I might be interested in working on the Writers Track for next year. (Actually, I am interested, I just don't know if I can commit yet)>> Cool, let me know.

MOONCAT> <<Greg B. likes big water guns.>> It was a dart gun actually <<And wears long leather coats.>> I do now. Just got one. Before that it was a ratty old cloth coat.

BIG QUARTET> <<1)How many years does Brooklyn and Sata stay in the Future? Does he stay until the Space-Spawn war is won?>> At present it doesn't look like Brooklyn will be taking part in the Space-Spawn War... but you never know what will happen when "Timedancer" ends and we need another series to replace it ;) <<5)Finally did Demona and Macbeth die at Castle Moray or were they saved?>> Here's the answer, and it's a truely honest answer... what do you think?

GSIDE> <<But even white supremacists like LOTR.>> Well, Tolkien most likely was a racist.

JOSH> <<ACK! How will you survive!? I could never live without soda.>> Coffee. <<Watching it on video is masturbation. Not the real thing.>> Amen. <<Isn't there a black person in it though?>> No... well, there are the Southrons, but they fly the banner of Mordor. <<Hmmm, I hold out hope that Demona lives for ever.>> Demona is Dark Goddess. She will live forever, and one day she will rule all!

JEN> <<To celebrate, I think I will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Just sit here and enjoy the first bit of quiet I have had in over 12 years... ahhhhh. :)>> ooh, nothing is good. I want to hear all about it ;)

AARON> You know, whenever you post, it's a CR Holiday> <<Okay, this was BlurCon for me>> Hell, you remembered a lot more than I did, and I wrote mine only a few days after the con ended. What does that say? <> I love that shop. I go whenever I'm in NYC. We should see if they'd like a table in our Dealer's Room. <<and the elevator opened to reveal Gregs W. & B.>> Hey, I didn't arrive till the next day. Must have been Greg Guler. Argh, too many Gregs. <<It's those three little words: "get up early." I don't like mornings as a general rule>> Neither do I. That's why I was such a retarded asshole all weekend, I was tired, and still drug myself out of bed early. <<so the five of us, myself, Mara, Lynati, Revel, and GXB all climbed into the car and went in search of food.>> Aaron and Mara in the front, Lynati, Revel and I in the back. Funny anecdote here...

Lynati: Greg, you and Mara should trade seats. You in the front, Mara in the back.
Mara: I ride up front because I'm the girlfriend.
Lynati: But there will be more room.
Aaron: Anyone who rides up front has to give me head.
Mara: It's in the Book.

<<I've been terrified of public speaking for as long as I can remember, and this was no exception. How would we be received? Would I freak and babble nonsense? How would OtherCon go over? Ad infinitum.>> You did a Hell of a lot better than I did. <<(Yes, it takes me twice as long as Mara to get ready to go anywhere)>> Give me time and I'll think of a witty remark... or just forget about it. <<"We're large. And broken. But still good. Yeah, still good.">> Amen to that. <<The people who know us probably weren't phased, but I wonder what all those con virgins were thinking. >> "Mommy I'm scared." -Child at showing of LOTR when Sauron came on screen for the first time. <> I didn't hear that. <<And then we introduced Death. The Other Mascot. He caused a bit of a stir.>> I remember a reaction to his name being something like "what the f-ck, are these people crazy?"... no one said this, but it summed things up. <<(Mara drew up these really great, really *big* pics of the mascots, and we showed them off)>> Here's a link to those pics...

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/lk23693/Gargoyles/Links//Mascots.jpg

<<OtherCon. Which took like half the presentation, introducing it and then answering some questions about it.>> I still can't believe we spent so much time on it. <<Feeling bad about oversleeping, I wanted to tear down to the dealers room and start selling pre-reg immediately. Everybody else thought we should get brunch first.>> Priorities ;). <<It wasn't the most authentic Xanatos costume, but it worked, and opportunities to wear that purple coat are rare, so I went with it.>> Action figure Xanatos!!! All you'd need is black hair. I took my Xanatos figure and painted his hair brown and jacket that dark gray it is in the show. I need a dark gray jacket like that. <<Mara made a stunning Fox, if I do say so myself.>> Indeed she did. <<1. No slowing time. 2. No warping space. 3. No flying through the air sideways in slow motion.>> No joke people, Aaron and I can really do that. Black trenchcoat powers combined with Con Staff powers. <> Next year, you are going down. I swear it! <<Only this time I just threw them the forms and let them get on with it.>> Actually, you cracked the door open and tossed the forms on the floor in front of us. <<"Story Time with Un'ca Hudson.">> Going to be an official event next year. << The third one I unblinked and there was a state trooper behind us. He gave us a warning and let us go. I still don't know what for.>> I just remember being asleep when I awoke to you crying out "Oh Shit" repeatedly. <<Random quote for this year:>> Here was another said multiple times about Williamsburg...

"I hate this place!!!"

<<And that's why I, and a lot of people like me, will never give them up>> That was beautiful. I love my car also. My gray '91 Corsica. Still runs beautifully. Her name is Nemesis, and I've got a pen with Demona perched on a turret hanging from the mirror. She makes a great ornament. <<But then, I quit reading the book after they ditched the Black Cat in favor of Mary Jane, (who I *never* liked) so what do I know?>> Spidey is a character that works best when he's completely miserable. He shouldn't have a woman. Black Cat is awesome, I like her a lot, but having a woman fighting bad guys at his side makes his love life way too easy IMO. Of course, the only thing Mary Jane is good for is eye-candy... green eyed, big breasted red head. She was better than Gwen Stacy, but anyone is better than Gwen (though the Ultimate verse Gwen is cool).Of course, when ever she wanted him to stay in for the night, he'd just go out and fight super villains. What screwed up priorities. Well, they're separated in the comics, and in the Ultimate-verse Mary Jane was just killed, thrown off the Brooklyn Bridge bu the Green Goblin... this happens in every Spidey incarnation.

LA> <<Oh yeah, the comments about Spider Man, not seen the movie yet but I think I'd agree about the whole fastforwarding of New York to Peter Parker likage. Also, I didn't know Felicia Hardy was Parker's first love interest! That totally rocks! And Hardy totally kicks Mary Jane out of the park anyday of the week. Black Cat's one of my fav. characters!>> First it was Betty Brant, but she dumped him and married the reporter Ned Leeds (who was later used as a stand-in for the Hobgoblin), then he dated Mary Jane, then Gwen Stacy (who got killed by the Green Goblin), then MJ again, then the Black Cat, then he married Mary Jane again. now they are separated and Spidey is being f-cked over by the Green Goblin yet again.
Greg Bishansky
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:24:25 PM
IP: 216.179.5.177

hOW DO i STOP MY COMPUTER FROM REMEMBERING WHAT i TYPE?
Roy - [rockdean@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 09:00:27 PM
IP: 64.85.234.99

Oh yeah, the comments about Spider Man, not seen the movie yet but I think I'd agree about the whole fastforwarding of New York to Peter Parker likage. Also, I didn't know Felicia Hardy was Parker's first love interest! That totally rocks! And Hardy totally kicks Mary Jane out of the park anyday of the week. Black Cat's one of my fav. characters!
LA
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 08:19:00 PM
IP: 67.201.141.210

Wow. Okay, reading the Gathering Diary was totally fun! When is G2K3 and how can I buy tickets??? Answers Please!
Luminous Aphrodite
State of Grace
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 08:02:14 PM
IP: 67.201.141.210

Just popping in to post a link of likely public interest... click my name to see a model of the tower being proposed to replace the broadcast antennas lost in the terrorist attacks on NYC last year.

For the record... if built this tower would be taller than the WTC towers were.
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 08:01:09 PM
IP: 67.38.244.51

Gside> <<Nah, it just flips back to the women>> Dang. Well, points for originality then. <<<<Being tall is a P.I.T.A>>: Eh?>> Pain In The @$$.

Taleweaver> <<What do you think? If the right movie or series of movies came along could it knock Disney off as the leader of feature animation?>> No. Unless they went totally bankrupt, Disney would still own the genre by virtue of having been the only game in town for so long. And since they seem to be batting about .250 at this point, they won't ever fall off. It would take some aggressively-marketed films of amazing animation and sweeping story *cough*Princess Mononoke*cough* for someone to make Disney surrender market share. And besides AOL/Time/Warner/Turner, who's left?

Nightwalker> I remember you. Welcome back. <<Spirited away, ... It's coming to the states in Sept.>> Uh-huh. Sure. I'll believe Disney giving a Ghibli release a fair shake when I see it.

GB> <<my bad, you said _Great Empires_ not shitty Empires>> Actually, you could probably argue, if one were inclined, that Communism is a religion. To whit, the worship of the state *as* God, rather then being backed by God. And hey, it's another thing you have to accept on faith �cause you sure can't prove it by works. ;)

Josh> <<5 years I've been driving this car, not one serious problem that prevented me from driving.>> He's getting old. Happens to the best of us. Entropy is such a b!tch. <<A waterfight? Then might I suggest handing out info on where we might acquire water-weaponry?>> Not water. Nerf guns. I suggest WalMart, K-Mart, (If you can find any still in business), or Toys R Us. <<Do you guys have a guest list yet?>> Yes. So far, we've got Greg. ;) <<Have you ever noticed how hard it is to explain minesweeper to a lay person?>> Speaking as a layperson, yes. It, and freecell, are just two things I can't play. Can't make my mind go where it needs to go or something. Probably why I'm such a crappy chess player too. And Magic. And... a whole list of other things... <<<<Actually hemp.>>: I don't think that would be a good source of paper.>> Ah, but you'd be wrong. Hemp actually makes wonderful, long-lasting, non-polluting, acid-free paper. It's just that William Randolph Hearst owned lots of timber, and so decided to have hemp criminalized. <<<<landed on a car hood two floors down>>: Damn! That's quite a fall!>> Actually, cats are safer in a fall from two stories then two feet. A long fall gives them plenty of time to land on their feet. <<Mine is Grey.>> Really? Cool. <<That would lead to a generation of kids who have no idea what's going on in the world around them.>> Oops, too late. <<If I developed diabetes, I'd probably commit suicide. I can't live without sugar.>> Ditto. Hey, there's no disease that makes you unable to process caffeine, is there? (Shudders at the very thought) <<<<Your leg isn't safe?>>: That'd dogs, not cats.>> No, cats do that too.

Leo> That really sucks about the poor kitten. :( <<Hank Hill would not be pleased. This guy uses charcoal and not propane.>> Real barbecuists use coal. <<Why are ther suddenly so mant kittin "incidents" happening this week!? This is disturbing!>> I blame Nick Yu. Is that chopper thing up anywhere else, I couldn't access your link.

DPH> <<That's funny because I thought part of it was competition to see who can pull off the best convention.>> A little friendly competition, perhaps, but no staff roots for another to fail, so they'll look better in comparison. <<My grandfather is dead.>> My condolences. <<I'd look to know who in the fandom has an address book that contains my email address, Winterwolf's, Aaron Wheeler's and Todd's.>> I don't use Outlook, and you're not in my Yahoo book. And besides, didn't Wilek say "There are viruses capable of harvesting e-mail addresses that are linked to in the web page in a system's cache for the purpose of hiding their actual origin." <<One of the keys to winning is grossly outnumbering your opponents with overwhelming fire power.>> Got WarCraft III? <> Um, since I'm pro-abortion and pro-not clear-cutting-the-rainforest, I don't see a contradiction. Both things make life better for me; (abortion=less people, more space, and more trees=more oxygen, cooler summers) so why shouldn't I be in favor of both of them? I think we're back to my position on self-interest. <<Who wants to place bets about whether or nor Avalon Mists gets a new issue on August 3, 2002? I hear the odds are 3 to 1 against it happenning.>> Dude, that's kinda harsh.

Spacebabie> <> And too busty. ;) How �bout Naga? <<Wow your big and hairy. Do you also have an admantium skeleton and have self healing abilities?>> I'd like to point out that in the comic books, Logan is like, my height, at best. Gside sounds more like Sabertooth. <<When does the average person stop growing?>> I'm hoping at like age 30. So I can grow some more. (Upward, not outward) <<Waits patiently for one of the Four Gods to post>> Of Earth and Sky? Do you want a wish? <<Harpy High>> I loved that book!

Lain> <<the new "texan quesedilla">> It's bigger. Thus, "Texan." Happy b-day. <> Useless fact of the day: When the French elect a new president, they forgive everyone's parking tickets. So people refuse to pay them for *years* hoping for an election. <> But weren't you guys all happy when you kicked our @$$es at hockey? ;)

Stephanie D> <> A candidate with no platform? He's perfect. All things to all people. (Do you read Avalon, btw?) <<'Cars are Evil'>> To borrow a phrase, "Not to get off on a rant here, but..." If cars are evil, then I don't wanna be good. (Not that I did anyway...) ;) Now, I dunno what the driving's like where you live, but for me, it's one of the high points of life. Facts and figures, charts and graphs, simply cannot convey the wonderful freedom a car brings. Nor can it tell you about what it feels like to take a sharp turn at speed, or shoot through a narrow gap between two lumbering semis at eighty mph. No cute picture can convey the absolute thrill of an impromptu race with a fellow driver, the precision dance of cutting through a pack of cars and then bursting free of them, with nothing but the open road before you. Numbers become meaningless the moment you realize that the speedometer maxes out and goes horizontal at eighty-five and it's now twenty degrees past horizontal, buried somewhere in the dashboard, and your entire being is focused on the next ten seconds, the next 200 yards of road... Heh. Cars are one of the few things I wax lyrical about. I'm a complete mush when it comes to my cars. I cried harder when Eleanor, my beloved �85 Nova, went to the big autoyard in the sky then I did for my grandmother four months later. I can't help it. I cried the first time I saw that Mercedes commercial where the old one is at the autoyard being crushed and it's whole life flashes on it's windshield... And then it's reborn as a brand-new Mercedes. It's a bond, between owner and car. It's like family. It *is* family. And that's why I, and a lot of people like me, will never give them up. <<You seem to think that this is a bad thing. Personally, I cannot stand those liquid sugar drinks. Soft drink consumption (as little as one a day) has been linked to under-age obesity in Americans.>> You and I have diametrically opposed opinions about everything, don't we?

Niamhgold> <<how about official Jell-o wrestling? ;)>> Are you volunteering?

Lynati> <<Aaron: Did the flooding affect you at all?>> It was damp here for a while. Nothing else.

Zath> <<They were like over-grown children with credit cards.>> But, the account can't be empty! I still have checks left! <<apparently Canada is on fire and belching smoke down on us.>> You have my sympathy. We went through that here a couple years back, when big chunks of Mexico caught fire.

Christine> <> Or rather, historical fiction, given the quality of the average American history book.

FS> <<We closed.>> (RHPS photographer voice) Congratulations. <<If Disney IS getting back into all things Gargoyles, then do you think it is possible that they will want to take over the Gathering that happenes in the year of the 10th aniversary of Gargoyles?>> AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE! (Runs, screaming in horror at the very thought) (On reflection, gargs premiered in �94, so... wouldn't that be the one y'all are looking to host?)

Jen> <<that's racking up years of therapy bills later in life.>> Assuming those kids *get* a later life... <<Being tall is a P.I.T.A.>> Anytime you'd like to swap and be 5'6", just say the word. Did you know short people do worse economically then their vertically-gifted brethren?

SJ> <<WOW, of all the criticisms I've seen thrown against a comic-book movie, and this film in particular, I don't quite think ANYONE has ever critiqued the flick for being "too patriotic".>> That's �cause I never bothered to do my review of it. Which also would have included the words "derivative" and "badly edited". <<I'm guessing you didn't like the scene where the New Yorkers
banded together, right?>> I know I didn't. One, it was post-9/11 feel-good cr@p, and two, it was so completely *wrong*. Spidey, at least, at this stage of his career, is *not* a beloved New York icon. For the longest time, JJJ and the Bugle keep people unsure if he's a hero or a menace. Peter Parker is the everyman superhero precisely *because* he never gets a break, and that scene totally violates that. But then, I quit reading the book after they ditched the Black Cat in favor of Mary Jane, (who I *never* liked) so what do I know? And yeah, the enormous flag at the end bugged me too.

Mandi> Congrats on getting into the new place.

Gabriel> <<And in the end, I wanted spider-man to rip the flag down and wrap the president in it and set in fire; then laugh evily with a turbine on his head!>> A *what* on his head? I know Spidy's super-strong, but still... ;)

Sarge> Dylan is not gone. In fact, he's back. Check the new stories page of the fic archive, and you'll see that he's posting new version of all his work, preparatory to posting new stuff. Stormy is at http://www.angelfire.com/de/albatros/index.html She hasn't been updating much, but that's her page.

Mec> <<Yeah, you Texan's probably have everyone beat in the state pride area.>> Being your own country will do that for you.

Dylan> Welcome! Hope to see you around here more often.

MoonCat> <<Survivor Texas Style>> Nobody survives. Hell, *I* might have to run that guy adoff the road... <<"lucky rabbit's foot" key chains.>> I don't understand that. They obviously weren't lucky for the rabbit now were they? ;)

Hi Jackal. Been a while.

SOROW> Welcome back! Just the other day, I said "hugbees!" and then thought, "Whatever happened to SOROW?" So, hugbees!

Jan> <<It is estimated that at any one time, 0.7% of the world's population are drunk.>> Does that make the human race legally intoxicated? ;)

kathy> <<I've developed a violent reaction to soft drinks and I can't have them any more - ever.>> Owwww. My condolences. :(

Quizzes> Apparently, I would survive a horror movie. I also come up as Bond, a garden hoe, and as a Buffy guy, I come up as Oz. I can live with that. Of course, as a Buffy Bad Guy, I came up as Spike. Which is even cooler.

The HIV muppet> Um, I was under the impression that Jim Henson died of AIDS. So....

Powerpuff Girls movie> Everything Spider-man should have been. Go see it.

State stuff> Texas rejected putting the words "The Friendly State" on our license plates. And that tells you everything you need to know about Texas... ;)

Somehow, this seemed relevant... http://www.misanthropic-bitch.com/patriotism.html

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=676&ncid=716&e=20&u=/usatoday/20020723/ts_usatoday/4297827

Terrorist fish?

And why can't I help thinking that somehow, Hudson was involved in this...

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/ns/content.jsp?file=news/osama/osama.jsp

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 02:39:44 PM
IP: 209.33.140.99

And, my much belated Gathering Diary...

Okay, this was BlurCon for me, so apologies in advance if I leave anything out. Or put anything in that didn't happen. I was so sleepy it was hard to tell sometimes.

WEDNESDAY

Actually, this starts on Tuesday, since I wasn't packed until the last minute, and our flight was so early we decided to just stay up all night and then sleep on the plane.

So, I ran around and packing like a madman while Mara watched the first half of The Ten Commandments. (Dang, Vincent Price was actually young once?!?)

So, we leave, my mom drops us off at the airport, and we get to stand in line. For a looooong time. Next time, e-tickets.

We go through security, and I get stopped for a "random" check. This old lady empties everything out of my backpack, looks at it, (Including my disposable razor, which I know you're not supposed to carry on) and then puts it all back in, all of it the wrong way �round, and then wonders why it won't close.

So we fly to Dallas. I lose my sunglasses somewhere on the plane, which irks me to no end. After I notice that, I also notice we forgot something a little more important: Lynati's feet.

"Did we tell my mom to mail that package?" "Um..."

So, a frantic phonecall home later, that's taken care of, and I buy a replacement pair of sunglasses. Which lasted about two weeks. They're broken now. Rassem frassem shoddy merchandise...

So, off to Laguardia. I slept the whole way, and didn't wake up until about ten seconds before we touched down.

"Hey, it's raining-" (Loud, bouncy landing) "Oh, we're here."

So, we drop our stuff at Mara's mom's place, and bum around New York a bit. I insist on a stop at MidTown Comics, because it's Wednesday, and even on vacation, I have to pick up my comics.
Dinner, and then bed until bright and early on...

THURSDAY

Got up, entirely too early, and started calling rental places. Maybe we should have gone with Rent-A-Wreck. (Next time, national chain) Don't rent from New York Rental. So, we rent a Chrysler Seebring convertible, which has a few dings in it. Or rather, in the dim light of the parking garage, it looked like a few dings. Out in full sunlight, it was a different story altogether.

It also had a tape deck. Ordinarily, I would love that. I love cassettes, and hate CDs. Ninety percent of my music collection is cassettes. But, I didn't think anybody still rented cars with tape decks, so we brought CDs for traveling music. Oops.

(Side note to all you car owners: Do you feel like you have a bond with your car? I mean, to the point where it's like a pet or something? That it knows you and you know it, and you compliment each other? Just curious)

And we're off. Six hundred miles by map through unfamiliar territory with an unbonded vehicle. What could go wrong? Oh, and our main route, I-95, apparently has a bad rep about road rage. I felt right at home.

So we drove. From New York, though New Jersey, (Where we stopped for lunch and bought 64 oz mugs for the rest of the trip. Oh, and the pseudo-leather thing that's supposed to cover the top when it's down blew off somewhere on the Jersey Turnpike. Recovery was not an option) Delaware, Maryland, Washington D.C., back into Maryland, (where we got royally lost), and finally into Virginia, to pick up Lynati at Dulles airport.

So, happy reunion there, car reloaded, (for such a big car, the Seebring has *no* trunk space) and we're off again... Back to Maryland, for Chinese dinner, and so Lyn can do laundry and pick up her wings.

On the way back from dinner, it starts *pouring*. Now, I've never driven a convertible before, and we drove all the way up to this point with the top down, (The source of the sunburn Mara and especially I was sporting the whole con) *and* I'm a spaz. So we can't figure out how to lock the convertible closed. So the roof's leaking, and most of it's dripping right on the door panel where the window controls are... And *something* happens, and my window goes down and STAYS down.

This, in a word, sucks.

Much swearing and meddling with a pair of needle-nosed pliers fails to fix the problem, but fortunately for us, that was the last rain of the trip. (It did eventually fix itself, kind of) Fortified by a newly-bought Pat Benetar tape, we set off again, through the wilds of Virginia, completing a "four hour" road trip in two and a half hours.

Some general observations before I go on:

1. Eastern states have no idea how to build highways. Of every place we went, only Pennsylvania seemed to get it right. In Texas, highways actually go *through* places. None of this "here's an exit, some undetermined distance down which there *might* be a town" stuff. Virginia was particularly bad about this. Back home, on the side of the highway, there're fast food places, 24-hour diners, roadside attractions, evil small-town cops with radar guns, and, most importantly, *gas stations.* In Virginia, the side of the highway is... trees. Nothing but trees for miles. On the sides and in the median. Trees, and big "No Stopping" signs.

2. Toll roads are EVIL. It's a tax on people's ability to move freely. Just the idea makes me feel oogy.

3. "Speed limit enforced by aircraft." WTH does that mean? If you go too fast, they chase you with choppers? If so, then, (A) What were all those VA state patrol cars we passed for?, and (B) Why didn't they come after me?

Back to the ramble...

So, we finally get to Williamsburg, and, after a stop at 7-11, find our way into the hotel. It's like, 1 a.m. by this time. We get inside, and run into WinterWolf and Dreamie, Kyt, and some other people hanging out in the lobby. Wolfie showed us his rental, (his Seebring was in much better condition then ours) and we unloaded all our junk. During that lengthy process, Jen, Patrick, and Kathy arrived. More roadtrip survivors! Mara gave Jen her art gift, and the elevator opened to reveal Gregs W. & B., and a woman I later realized was Carol.

(I wish we'd figured that out sooner. We really didn't get to hang out with her, except a little after the auction, and by then it was too late to have much of a staff meeting)

Eventually, after most of the other people decamped for a late dinner at Denny's, we ran into Hudson, who showed off the first of many nifty black dart guns to be found at a nearby WalMart.

We just sort of hung out for a couple of hours, talking of projects, and cons, and the fandom in general. Unable to interest anyone else in food, I was forced to eat the leftover pizza from Jersey. Such hardship. ;)

And then suddenly it was like 4 a.m. Ack! Bedtime.

FRIDAY

Friday we were supposed to get up early and go with Hudson over to WalMart and buy more of those nifty guns. Can you spot the flaw in this plan? It's those three little words: "get up early." I don't like mornings as a general rule, and after a long day like the previous one... Nothing short of kicking in the door and throwing a bucket of water on me would have gotten me moving before noon.

So we finally get dressed, and head downstairs, picking up our badges and GXB in the process. Hudson turned up with many more guns, (but still not enough to go around) and told us they'd bought out the WalMart. After checking out the dealer's room and hanging Mara's stuff in the art room, hunger called, so the five of us, myself, Mara, Lynati, Revel, and GXB all climbed into the car and went in search of food.

Revel directed us to an IHOP where he'd been shortly before, with another group. The food was standard IHOP, passable but over-priced. We'd passed a Big K on the way, so we stopped and bought a bunch of stuff, including those huge blue Nerf guns we carried for pretty much the rest of the con.

So we returned, and after, I swear, something on the order of an hour trying to get the Nerf guns out of the packaging, we went our separate ways to get ready for opening ceremonies. Lynati went off to work on her wings some more, and we agreed to meet GXB back at our room in about an hour. This was a mistake on my part. One, it left us with very little time to do much of a final polish on our presentation, (which was only finished Monday before the con) and me with far too much time to freak out about the presentation. I've been terrified of public speaking for as long as I can remember, and this was no exception. How would we be received? Would I freak and babble nonsense? How would OtherCon go over? Ad infinitum. So I just laid on the bed and went quietly insane while Mara made fun of me in the guise of cheering me up. ;)

Then I channeled my freaking out into trying (futilely) to iron my vampire shirt. (The big, poofy, black thing with the ruffled front and cuffs I was wearing at opening ceremonies) A hopeless task, (and pointless, since the whole thing was hidden under my coat anyway) but it passed the time. Passed it too well in fact, since then I started panicking about being late. (Yes, it takes me twice as long as Mara to get ready to go anywhere)

So Greg B. shows up, and we have a mini-review of the presentation, before heading downstairs. We thought there might be seats reserved for us, but (thankfully) didn't want to take the chance. There weren't, so we got some about 2/3s of the way to the back of the room. Surprisingly, there was still a good view from there.

So, Siryn talks for a while. Poor girl. (Heh. Girl. I think she's a couple years older then me) Anyway, she talks, and the stress of the last year is just visible. My heart goes out to her. (My head, meanwhile, is still busy freaking out, so I have only a vague impression of what she actually said) Sapphire read a poem about the fandom, which Mara summed up by paraphrasing Stitch. "We're large. And broken. But still good. Yeah, still good."

And then it was our turn...

Our place toward the back made for a long walk up to where Si was standing, and I think we milked it a little. It was one of those moments I wish I could watch from the outside, to see the audience reaction. The three of us, GXB, Mara, and me, all in black from head to toe, including our trenchcoats, Mara and I carrying our Nerf dartguns at port arms, flanking Greg. The people who know us probably weren't phased, but I wonder what all those con virgins were thinking. I did catch the phrase, "only in New York" from somebody.

And so we pimped the con. We talked. And we talked. And we talked some more. I talked entirely too much. I got punchy and started threatening the audience with my dart gun. Talked about the hotel, location, rates, dates, etc.

(It has been pointed out to me by various people, that some of the things we said were somewhat derogatory to some of the previous staffs. I apologize for that. It was never out intent)

And we talked some more. We introduced the "Name the con" contest, and the mascot, Madison, or Maddie for short.

And then we introduced Death. The Other Mascot. He caused a bit of a stir. (Mara drew up these really great, really *big* pics of the mascots, and we showed them off)

And then we dropped the bomb, so to speak: OtherCon. Which took like half the presentation, introducing it and then answering some questions about it.

And then finally, we were done, and we got to sit back down.

And then Greg (W) got up to talk. He did a hand count, and the number of con virgins was unbelievable. Like, a third of the room. Amazing. He also had considerably bigger bombs to drop.

First up, Toon Disney gave us a bunch of free shirts, and hats, almost completely gratis. Reading a one paragraph Toon Disney advert was a tiny price to pay for all our bounty.

And then, the bunkerbuster: Gargs on DVD. In 2003. With Greg's commentary. Life is good.

Then he did the "litany" presentations, the ones we know so well we can recite along with Greg. And, as a bonus, there was a promo narrated by Jonathan Frakes, which I'd never seen before. Frakes described Gargoyles as "The next generation of Disney animation." Which I thought sounded really appropriate and cool for about ten seconds before I realized it's also a terrible pun.

And then, he showed the Bad Guys leica reel. Which totally freaked me out, because he forgot to do the "don't film this" disclaimer, and there were at least two people in the audience with digital camcorders...

And then we left, minus GXB, plus Lynati and Revel, to search for dinner. This is harder then it sounds. As so many people have already pointed out: What was with all those pancake houses?!? Are pancakes like, the state dish of Virginia or something?

We were really surprised to find a sushi place. So surprised, in fact, that to confirm that this was not a mirage created by our sleep-starved brains, we had to stop and consume large amounts of raw fish, rice, soy sauce, and wasabi.

The food was good but the service was slow, and we had to make another run to K-Mart for some things we forgot the first time, so we got back later then we intended.

We managed to make at least part of Hudson's Rantfest. Hudson had a really nifty-sounding announcement about starting an art archive that works like the fic archive does. It sounded pretty cool and I hope it happens.

After that, he just kind of rambled. Even if you're totally untechnical, like I am, just the way Hudson tells the story makes it funny.

That broke up just in time to make it to Rocky. Kind of a smaller audience then I'd expected, but people were probably tired by that point. And after that, we dragged ourselves to bed.

SATURDAY

We were supposed to get up early, head down to the dealer's room, and sell pre-registration for G2K3. Again, any plan that includes the words "get up early"...

Around nine, Lynati came and pounded on our door. I begged for an hour to shower, shave, etc. (Sometimes I just need to feel pretty) Only my feet carried me back to bed instead of to the shower... So, around ten, Greg *and* Lynati came and pounded on the door. Feeling bad about oversleeping, I wanted to tear down to the dealers room and start selling pre-reg immediately. Everybody else thought we should get brunch first. And I've got the only car... In retrospect, I probably should have just gone out and picked up some McD's or something. Hindsight is 60/20. We ended up at some buffet place, which was better then the previous day's IHOP, but still overpriced. (But what did I expect in a tourist town?)

So, we ate. And then we came back, and set up in the dealers room. Demona May gave us a receipt book, and drew a fancy sign for us, as well as a stack of calendars she had made. Thanks DM. Greg and Mara and I rotated at the table for a couple of hours, (I spent my off time bumming around the art room) until it was time for the radio play.

Radio Play was the Demona episode from the aborted Team Atlantis series. It was quite good, (the guys playing Mole and Vinnie, whose names escape me right now, were especially hilarious) and a fun glimpse of what might have been.

Afterwards, Greg produced yet another surprise, a tape of the actual voice recording of the episode in question. He popped it in the deck... And nothing happened. Somehow, the stereo didn't like the tape. So Greg asked if anybody had a boombox or a tapedeck or something. To which I replied, "Well, we could all go out to my car..." (Laughter from the crowd) Greg told them "Don't laugh, it might come to that." (More laughter) It didn't. A boombox was procured, and the episode played. I almost enjoyed the Radio Play more then the actual tape. Maybe because the tape didn't have Greg narrating to give us visuals with the audio.

Interesting things learned from the radio play. One, there were gargoyles on Atlantis. Two, the Praying Gargoyle is an Atlantean artifact. Three, the PG regenerates over time.

After that, we went back and did the pre-reg thing again, until the banquet. We got there late, and so we couldn't get a seat on the higher level where Greg was. And then the hotel staff, who'd been so great about so many other things, wouldn't let us push tables together to make more room. Apparently it was a fire hazard or some such thing.

The food was burgers and dogs, with a side of mac and cheese. Free, and therefore better then a kick in the head, as my grandmother is wont to say. We finished pretty fast, and I would have liked to stick around for Greg's Q & A, but consensus was that we wouldn't be able to hear or ask questions from down where we were, so we split. Hudson needed a hand moving the chairs in the Opening Ceremonies room, so we went and helped with that instead.

And then it was time to get ready for Cos Play. The major question of course, being whether Lynati would finish her costume on time.

While Mara was getting dressed, I hung out in the hall with Winterwolf, who wanted to know if I remembered any of Edwin the conjurer's lines from Baldur's Gate II. (Of course) Jen popped out of her room and asked if I had a black hair tie, (of course) and then I retreated to get dressed as well.

It wasn't the most authentic Xanatos costume, but it worked, and opportunities to wear that purple coat are rare, so I went with it. Mara made a stunning Fox, if I do say so myself.

Other costumes> Jen makes a freakily good Xanatos. I mean, really, it's scary. If we can ever get Jonathan Frakes to a Gathering, she has to do it again. Spacebabie will never again be mistaken for jailbait, and will probably have to fight off the propositions with a stick next year. Anthony "Gambit/Archangel/Dracon" Zucconi was a scary Elisa. Dreamie was a very purrlicious kitty. Edwin never summoned any creatures like that for me. And there were lots of other cool costumes belonging to people whose names I unfortunately don't know. But they were cool.

And then there was Lynati... Lynati was literally working on her costume up until the moment Mara threw her out of the room to go to Cosplay. She'd told me about it in the months leading up to the con, but the descriptions didn't do it justice. Once again, I am awed.

Oh, and Mara and I won best skit for our Eye of Greg thing.

Mara: (As Fox) Look David, I'm wearing your engagement present. The Eye of Greg Weisman.

Me: (As Xanatos) That's... great honey. But, won't that turn you into a sarcastic genius who's unable to give a straight answer to anything?

Mara: ... Maybe... All things are true.

So the winners were announced, group pictures were taken, and then we took Lynati upstairs to show her to the desk crew who wanted to see the costumes. (Did I mention the hotel staff was really great?)

Which leads to one of my favorite anecdotes from this con...

A little set-up. Across the hall and down a ways from our room there was a family of the mundanest mundanes ever. White, middle-class, 2.5 kids, dad's probably a CPA or something. I would love to know what they thought was going on that weekend. Anyway, we seemed to be (Eric Cartman voice) warping their fragile little minds.

They gave me the fish-eye as I hurried by in my purple coat and the little girl says: "Daddy, I'm scared. There was a girl with green hair walking around earlier." (Which I assume was Ayami. Seemed like a pretty non-threatening shade of pastel green to me)

And he says: "Just keep moving honey." As in, don't stop before we get to our room or the freaks will get us.

So, after the masquerade, we're taking Lynati back to her room after stopping by the front desk, and I spot the same little girl, with the door cracked just wide enough to put her head through, peeking out into the hall. And she gets a look at Lynati, and her eyes get about the size of Lexington's, and then she SLAM!s the door shut. I did not see any of those people for the rest of the weekend.

So we let Lyn get changed, and head back downstairs. Zaius and Greg Guler are talking about Minnesota, and Hudson is trying to organize a Weisman/Guler deathmatch with the dart guns. Both agreed, but sadly, Greg vs. Greg did not happen. Greg Guler disappeared, and after that there didn't seem to be much point in dragging Greg W. out from where he was comfy.

GXB showed up about then with Spacebabie in tow. She couldn't stay for the next day of the con (:( ) but she wanted to pre-reg for next year. So we headed back to our room once again, and got that taken care of. And then we hung out for a while. It is really hard to maintain eye contact with Spacebabie while she's dressed like that.

So, after twenty minutes of that, we drifted back to downstairs *again*, and found out that Greg vs. Greg was cancelled. But people were still really enthralled with the idea of Nerf mayhem, so Hudson and Chris decided to set up a tourney. We assembled as many of the weapons as we could, and commandeered half of the OC room. While the Quake players sketched out a layout, I made yet another trip back to our room, to change into my trenchcoat, vampire emoticon shirt, and skull and bones headscarf.

Nerf War is mucho fun. Everyone, I think, had a really good time, and everyone was a really great sport about it. Every match, after the first one, ended with a headshot rather then needing the judges to count hits. I ended up paired against GXB in the first round. Heh. Staff fight.

We're getting ready, and Hudson tells us to take off our coats, �cause we'll trip on them. We declined.

So we take our places, and Chris says to lose the coats, �cause we'll trip on them. Hudson says "No, they wanna have the Matrix fight." And then he set some rules for our fight. 1. No slowing time. 2. No warping space. 3. No flying through the air sideways in slow motion. 4. Hits on the coat count as hits.

And we fought. It's really quite a rush. Maybe even better then paintball, because the range is closer and thus the threats are more immediate.

I won. Barely. I finished Greg with a headshot a few seconds after his dart came so close that I felt the wind on my ear.

Hudson defeated Chris in a much anticipated match that did not lack for excitement.

Which meant I drew Hudson in the next round...

I thought I had no chance of winning. But I had to at least try. So I ditched the coat for greater mobility, and then my shirt, to draw on the power of Demona. That brought things to a halt for a bit as everyone who'd never seen my tattoo had to get a look. Spaz Kitty transferred allegiance from Hudson to me for the rest of the fight. But Chris' "Dude, is that permanent?" had to be the best response.

It was awesome. I'd studied Hudson's fighting style in his previous match with Chris, and tried to imitate it as much as possible. Which lead to a stalemate with both of us dual-wielding dart pistols behind cover just out of range from each other. Hudson, trying to get me to break cover says "You know I f**ked your mom, right?" I wait for him to make a move, and then pop up myself, yelling "Daddieeeeeeeeeee!" in a high-pitched tone of voice.

That pretty much set the tone for the match. Lots of misdirection and trickery. I managed to stay ahead of Hudson's fire with body control and a lot of luck, while Hudson opted for Jedi-like deflection with his own gun.

We fired every dart out of every gun in the entire room, until we were left with nothing but the ultimate last ditch weapon, the spring-launched Styrofoam glider, donated by Tony Z, which killed you if it hit anywhere. I got to it, dodged Hudson's last few darts, and then we strafed the length of the room, before I headshot him when he changed direction.

I beat Hudson! W00-h00!

After that totally unexpected result, I had thoughts about winning the whole thing. Unfortunately, I was eliminated in the next round by Sgt. Goliath. That match was kind of weird. Multiple witnesses corroborate that two of our darts hit each other in mid-air, nearly rebounding back on us, and I head shot him, but the dart was in the air when his hit my forehead with a mighty smack, leaving a mark that was visible for ten minutes after.

Eventually, the tournament finished, and almost everyone who wanted to try their hand got to, except for that one really tall guy. Sorry dude. But take heart that next year Nerf War will be an official event.

After we got kicked out at 2 a.m., I went briefly back to the room, but finding Mara to be sound asleep, I went and hung out with Hudson and Co. outside for awhile. I think I finally left around four, and then I accidentally woke Mara up, and we ended up talking until sunrise on...

SUNDAY

Same plan: Get up early, sell pre-reg. Same flaw in plan. Once again, Greg showed up at nine. Once again, I begged for another hour. Once again, I went back to bed. Once again, Lynati and Greg came back.

Only this time I just threw them the forms and let them get on with it. Mara and I did get down there and spell them eventually. Lots of people showed up to register and just to hang out. That filled the day until the Auction.

Lynati and I traded footwear about then, so she got to wear my nice comfy jungle boots and I got to wear her really cool, but pinchy as all get out, gargoyle feet.

I spent way too much money at the auction, but I had fun doing it and it's for charity right? Mr. Andy is quite the auctioneer and I hope he'll consider reprising the role next year.

At the auction we finally figured out who Carol was. Yay! Unfortunately, she was leaving before Closing Ceremonies, so we couldn't really hang out much. Boo!

We went back and sold more pre-reg until CC. The end of a con is always bittersweet at best, so my impressions of Closing are kind of vague. The awards for Art Show were given out. Mara won "Most Nauseatingly Cute" for her picture of Chibi-Demona.

And then it was over. Another Gathering come and gone. We went and sold more pre-reg, operating from what was the registration table, since the dealer's room was closed. Siryn came through, almost in tears at having lost a $200 set of markers. (She did find them eventually)

After the dust settled, we were supposed to have a staff meeting. We went back to the sushi place, with like twelve people, which made the service slower, and talked idly about the con. Not much got done.

We decided to go for mini-golf after sushi. Following that, we decided somebody needed to grab Greg and bring him along. We needed to make yet another quick stop by K-Mart, but we figured that wouldn't be a problem.

Needless to say, by the time we got back to the hotel, everyone who'd talked about mini-golf was gone. Oh well.

Eventually, we ended up in the con suite swapping stories. I really wish Greg had come in ten minutes sooner when Hudson and Revel were telling medical stories, instead of when he did, which was the "stupid things I did while drunk" segment of the evening, but what can you do?

As the evening wore on, we migrated out to the volleyball court for "Story Time with Un'ca Hudson." Basically, an extended version of Hudson's Rant-fest from the night before.

All too soon, it came time for us to depart. (We had to leave at like 3 a.m. to make it back to New York to make our plane. Stupid discount tickets) We'd already promised GXB a ride back too, so we loaded the car with all our bags, and gods know how many T-shirts that Sarah told us we had to take at the last minute. (Apparently, they brought them down in a U-haul, and we had to get them back to New York in the convertible. A little warning would have been nice)

The trip back was wild. I blinked and lost time on four separate occasions. The first two were okay. The third one I unblinked and there was a state trooper behind us. He gave us a warning and let us go. I still don't know what for. The fourth one I found out we'd taken a detour into Pennsylvania. Philadelphia, to be precise.

I woke Mara up, semi-panicking, demanding that she navigate. (For me, being in another state from where you need to be is a panic situation. I'm not used to this hit five states and a district of Columbia in one day thing)

Mara: "Calm down. How do you know where we are?"

Me: "We just drove by the First Union Center! It looks exactly like it does on TV!" (I realize this means nothing to the non-basketball fan) "Trust me."

Eventually, we did make it back to New York, only to discover we'd lost my backpack somewhere. This made me unhappy. Plus, returning the rental car was an adventure and a half, and getting on the plane with no tickets and Mara's cat Anna was tricky.

But Hudson and Lynati found my bag, and eventually returned it, and the giant plush armadillo I bought in the DFW airport cheered me up some.

And that, as they say, is that.

Random quote for this year: "The fandom is so full of Sluggites that all you have to do to start a conversation is yell "My world is a crotch!" and see who responds.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 02:39:01 PM
IP: 209.33.140.99

Todd: Whatever you do, don't hit your monitor or desk in frustration. You'll blow out a capacitor and then you'll have no display at all 8-)

Its quite possible that your monitor is perma-f*cked. In any case, my money is on a problem with the monitor, not the video card. But just to be sure, you should try to borrow a neighbor's monitor and see if it works normally. If it does, then the problem is with your monitor. If it doesn't, then the problem is with your video card.

In which case, the solution is, of course, to re-install winblows (ugh).
Josh
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 01:35:29 PM
IP: 63.65.68.246

The first FULL day of school!! Not for me, of course, for my kids!

For the first time in years I have time ALONE! (at least from 8am to Noon while my son is in Kindergarden!) All 4 kids.. in school... at the same time...

To celebrate, I think I will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Just sit here and enjoy the first bit of quiet I have had in over 12 years... ahhhhh. :)
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:25:11 AM
IP: 216.249.65.198

KATHY - Thanks for the advice. I certainly hope that my monitor isn't going south, but we'll just have to see.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 09:15:12 AM
IP: 63.208.61.212

Todd > I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but does your monitor have buttons on it like a tv? And, are you adjusting your settings from a windows preference menu? If so, perhaps the monitor buttons got readjusted (kitten on the keys, maybe) and it's over riding your Windows set preferences.
Second thought - your monitor is going south. Probably not, but without actually looking, it's hard to rule out.

DPH > Weird. I switched to Zone Alarm. (the cheap version is free) I have it set to tell me what programs are trying to access the internet. It's possible the trouble you're having is with Microsoft Auto Update. (The ultimate trojan horse program) and the cross we bear for not being Mac users.

And since it seems to be wierd computer problem day, I have one too. I use Excite mail. Last night when I tried to log in it said I had a time out error and if I was getting said error then maybe the clock on my computer was wrong. Well I checked and it wasn't and their help file was useless. I finally worked my way around the problem by changing my clock ahead a couple of days and then resetting it back. And, when I finally did get to my mail box the colors were all strange like the preferences had been changed. I'm guessing this is just a fluke on Excite's part, but weird, yes?

Thanks for the condolences on the soft drink problem. I don't drink a lot of them, less then one a month actually, but occasionally it's nice to have a change from coffee, tea and water. So far the problem has manifested itself with normal sized servings of non carbonated drinks - sweetened tea and commercial lemonade, I haven't tried to drink a can of soda recently and based on the other night's experience, I'm not gonna, not even for science. So no Lemon Pepsi or Vanilla Coke for me! And before you ask - Diet drinks are taboo, I won't touch anything with Nutrasweet in it.

Oh well, it could be worse, some people can't eat shrimp.

Josh > It sounds like your internship worked out better than you thought it might a few weeks ago, good for you.

Hi Heather. I remember you.
kathy
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 08:44:36 AM
IP: 66.32.96.159

I need a bit of help with a computer problem. Lately, my monitor's default setting has become a bizarre one which is taller than normal and pushed over to one side on the horizontal level more (it's difficult to describe in words, actually). I keep on using my monitor adjustments to bring it back to a normal level, more like the one that it used to have, but each time that I switch on the computer, it reverts to that "bizarro" setting. Does anybody know how to fix that? (My computer is a Hewlett Packard Pavilion, in case this information helps).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 07:53:28 AM
IP: 63.208.47.11

*The CR door splinters under repeated blows from an axe. Large chunks of wood fall away, leaving a fair-sized whole, and Valentine the Gunjack peers in with a maniacal grin*

HeeeEEEEREEE'S JOHNNY!!!

Yup, it's true! I survived six weeks of camp, sickness, sleep deprivation, and two consecutive rolls in an SUV! I'm back, I'm bad, and I'm here for yer daughters!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

...Oh, and Lynati? are you going to send me that message you mentioned six weeks ago? I'm still waiting... Almost as long as I'm waiting for LAIN TO GET RESPOND TO HER MESSAGES! Ye gads, woman, I've been waiting for an hour! Didja fall in?
More later, after I've slaked my thirst for anime, hellboy, and the blood of the innocent. Toodles!

*rides madly off in all directions*
Gunjack "Lucky F***er" Valentine
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 01:49:06 AM
IP: 68.6.155.14

Stephanie - < agree with Kathy's first response; it is probably a hacker. We had one attack our network at home and do that.> How would I go about proving that theory?

Kathy - <2:somehow your log in instructions have gotten reset to sign on at some other interval than you prefer.> I have set NO time interval for telling the computer when to log in, although it has a default for loggin out because of supposed inactivity. (I can be chatting and I get prompted to disconnect) < for the first get one of the better antivirus programs that checks for backdoor intruders.> I bought and installed McAfee VirusScan Professional version 6.0. This reconnection business usually occurs after 2 minutes of being disconnected, not immediately afterwards. Also, it worthwhile to note that my computer likes to disconnect me a lot at night if I haven't rebooted the computer recently. I suspect there is some program running the background that can't remain stable for 24 hours, or at least while a screen saver kicks in. If I can figure out what exactly are the minimum programs needed to run in the background for Windows:ME to work, I'd shut the rest down.

:runs off to find DPH of borg:
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:52:38 AM
IP: 204.94.193.80

I've been waiting all summer to say this:

And God Said: Bless this thy holy power plant, that thou may nuke thine enemies to three-eyed-children, in thy mercy.

Amen.

Thou shalt work three days. Three shall be the number of days worked, and the number of days worked shalt be three. Thou shalt not work four days, lest thy work into thy one paid vacation day. And five is right out. That shalt not work two days, unless they are proceeded by a third.

Amen.

In case you hadn't guessed, I've only got three days of work left. Woohoo! My ATI Radeon 7000 32MB PCI card came in today. That will allow me to actually *use* two monitors instead of just having them both sit on my desk like they are now ;-) I'm a little nervous because the static bag wasn't sealed, but the card has a 3 year warranty so I should be good.

Finished yet another analysis today. I've been more productive in the last three days than i have been in the last 10 weeks. What's up with that?

Lynati: <<it isn't appropriate to post TGS-related questions in Ask Greg>>: But apparently, booger-related questions are okay.

Gside: <<My father is contemplating dremeling off Isildur's beard>>: I didn't realize it was that thick. <<It'll never work out>>: if he fails, I'd recommend sending it to my father. I'll be starting my B-1, never to be finished. <<is portability of an LCD worth the extra money>>: Well, lets see. The tube was 250 (overpriced, yeah, but an Apple). An LCD would be 800 from Apple...so lets see, is 550 worth my back? Um...yes. <<with Wilek, certainly>>: Twisted man. <<You haven't even tried, have you>>: Of course not. <<it might not be local in New Hampshire>>: Is anything local in NH? <<What about my webcomics?>>: Skip the webcomics. They're a bad habit anyway. <<All depends on whether we can glean that it's from the same source or many different sources.>>: Sadly, one source does not imply an SO either.

Kathy: <<I've developed a violent reaction to soft drinks and I can't have them any more - ever.>>: ACK! How will you survive!? I could never live without soda. <<live proball is just as boring as I thought it was on TV>>: Actually, its MORE boring. At least on TV you can change channels during the break.

Warpmind: <<I'll have serious issues when watching Diamonds Are Forever tonight>>: So that's what else he's been in. Hmmm... Oh and by the way, watching it on video doesn't count as being de-virginized. Watching it on video is masturbation. Not the real thing.

Spacebabie: <<He can�t stand Shakira�s music. He just likes to look at her body>>: I can respect that. She's got a nice body. <<they only gave LOTR four out five stars so what does that say?>>: It says they have bad taste. <<Will do.>>: Sweet! Danke. <<Like that thing you have with Brittney Spears>>: I understand. <<Ha ha. How did you get so smooth.>>: Frequent blade changes on the razor. <<Dreamy and Winter Wolf explained to me that YOU were the reason Dreamy kept smelling bread>>: Does that mean that *I* smell like bread? And is that a good thing or not? Is it freshly baked bread or stale bread? <>: I don't think so. You wouldn't have been able to get your arms around the box. Besides, we got it. <<We need more cats>>: No just more pussies. <<who are you calling �Innocent?�>>: You, I'd guess. <<That�s how the moron feels about her>>: Can you get me Britney for my birthday? You don't have long...just 1 month and 8 days. <<if there is a Walla Walla Washington then I guess anything is possible>>: There's also a real Kalamazoo. We had a couple counselors from there one year at summer camp. I circulated rumors that it was another planet. <<Told you it was going to be long>>: So? Guys always say that, doesn't make it true. <<Or the Dew?>>: The Dew does NOT count as soda.

Taleweaver: <<My guess is that they took the poison and killed each other>>: Hmmm, I hold out hope that Demona lives for ever. <<What do you think happened that cause Gwenyvere to resent and hate Angela so?>>: I suspect something about her hitting on Brooklyn.

Anonymous: On second though, you've clearly nailed that point. And I see we have similar hatreds for celebrities.

Stephanie D: <<starts to pet the pussy>>: Please stop petting your pussy in here. This is a family oriented comment room. <>: Could be worse, you could be a rude American. <<Thanks for the teaser>>: Sorry, didn't mean to do that. <<What is your price range? How much do you believe the freight will cost?>>: Frieght will depend on how many cards I ship, obviously, but I don't anticipate too much. And the prices are very negotiable, seeing as I just picked up a price guide and the card values have dropped a bit (some as much as 60%) since I last checked. Once I have access to my cards, I can give a better idea of what I have. I'm thinking about 50 cents for an uncommon card, 5 cents for a common, with rares being variable. I have a LOT of cards, and I'm fine if you don't want to buy all of them, or only want a few specific cards, or whatever. I dunno, what to others in here think about prices for Magic cards? <<Soft drink consumption (as little as one a day) has been linked to under-age obesity in Americans>>: And surprisingly never proven. I drink nothing but soda, whereas my fat friend spent his entire young life drinking nothing but juice. <<if we were as inundated with them as you are I would have to stick a finger down my throat>>: Most of us do anyway.

Mooncat: <<Bites tongue and wanders out again>>: Glad I'm here, then.

SOROW: <<Lots of love>>: Ooh, kinky.

Gside: <<My condolences>>: Could be worse. It could be a reaction to caffiene. <<only a stage production can truly devirginize you>>: Actually, you need sex. <>: I hate you. <<even white supremacists like LOTR>>: Isn't there a black person in it though? <<Someone who has not yet learned what watersports are>>: Innocent, or maybe just not SICK. <<Eat that, Imzadi>>: Ewww, no thanks. She already worships me.

Off.

"Know what separates the winners from the losers?" "Yeah, the score."
-(Gene Hackman and Keanu Reeves), The Replacements

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
San Jose, CA, US of A
Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:18:50 AM
IP: 206.170.5.139

Kathy> <<I've developed a violent reaction to soft drinks and I can't have them any more - ever>>: My condolences.

Warpmind> <<Just watched RHPS on video>>: But apparently only a stage production can truly devirginize you.
<<I've heard the song before>>: Ah. I hadn't, but then it is from your area of the world.
<<it did take a little while to download>>: Because of the size or because of eden's speed? I think it was about 14kps uploading. Of course, I get 999kps when I'm actually on the network.

Spacebabie> <<they only gave LOTR four out five stars so what does that say?>>: But even white supremacists like LOTR.
<<Hey bud who are you calling �Innocent?�>>: Someone who has not yet learned what watersports are.
<<No prob>>: Eat that, Imzadi.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, August 12, 2002 11:16:38 PM
IP: 68.38.244.145

Hey once again. I'll be packing all day tomorrow and be leaving on Wednesday for school. I'm glad I was able to holler at you all and I'm sorry I can't come back so often as I would like. I'll keep in touch, I promise! Lots of love.
SOROW
Monday, August 12, 2002 11:07:07 PM
IP: 209.245.231.93

Hey, its good to see someone at least talking about Gargoyles or TGS again. Its been SO long. :D

(If any of you don't remember me, I was with the original group with tGS, you know, when Kaioto, Lexy, Robby, and all posted) I'm back.....
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Monday, August 12, 2002 09:46:48 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Wanders in... Looks at Stephanie's opening statement. *blinks* Bites tongue and wanders out again.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
too busy for words...
Mooncat
Monday, August 12, 2002 08:35:59 PM
IP: 68.102.19.135

**Stephanie enters, lies down on the couch, and starts to pet the pussy**
Being my cats' staff, I think I should ask for pay; this is hard work after all ;)

Warpmind: Forgive me the formality of my last e-mail; I am Canadian; politeness is habit-forming.

Imzadi: (re: cards) Thanks for the teaser. What is your price range? How much do you believe the freight will cost?

DPH: "Why would a computer go online by itself?" I agree with Kathy's first response; it is probably a hacker. We had one attack our network at home and do that.

Kathy: "I've developed a violent reaction to soft drinks and I can't have them any more� You seem to think that this is a bad thing. Personally, I cannot stand those liquid sugar drinks. Soft drink consumption (as little as one a day) has been linked to under-age obesity in Americans.

Boy bands: We don't manufacture them here in Canada; we just hear the overflow from 'our neighbour's' house. I have to say, if we were as inundated with them as you are I would have to stick a finger down my throat.

Back to school: No more full-time school for me :( I do not miss the homework, but I miss the classes. I slept like a baby in Developmental Psychology.

This post was brought to you by the Gallicism "dossier".

Au revoir
Stephanie D - [SCurtin@icao.int]
Montr�al, Qu�bec, Canada
Monday, August 12, 2002 05:07:54 PM
IP: 192.206.28.62

leo>> actually.. i think nsync is one of the very few boy bands out there that *wasnt* "manufactured." the group got together on their own, and were not put through boy-band-boot-camp (as it were).
due to this fact, i have slightly more respect for them than others in the "boy band" clique but.. then again.. that isnt really saying much ;)
lain
Monday, August 12, 2002 04:28:33 PM
IP: 65.92.92.145

And let's not forget that you're talking about some boy-toy from some "manufactured boy band" that's already being replaced by another "manufactured boy band" :b :d :b :d :b
Leo
Monday, August 12, 2002 04:09:53 PM
IP: 172.156.164.208

Anonymous: I think you've overlooked the fact that the Russian's deal includes a *return* trip. Maybe they'll cut the fee if they can use disposable, one-way rockets?
Josh
Monday, August 12, 2002 02:40:11 PM
IP: 63.65.68.246

To the Russian space agency:

I've been reading with alarm newspaper reports that say you might
cancel an agreement to allow Lance Bass, from the singing group 'N
Sync, to travel to the international space station aboard your Soyuz
spacecraft. These reports say Lance has not come up with the money
he was supposed to pay for the privilege of becoming a space tourist.
The fee was believed to be in the range of $15 million to $20 million,
and word is, Lance is about $15 million to $20 million short.

As Russian spokesman Sergei Gorbunov told Reuters,
``Theoretically, we can already dissolve his contract.''

I'm begging you not to. In fact, please know that I have $478.62 in
my checking account and am willing to put every cent of it on Lance's
bill. Plus, I can get you another five or six hundred dollars by payday.
Maybe you wouldn't mind taking a post-dated check?

Perhaps you're wondering why this means so much to me.

Well, forgive me for saying this, but I think you're missing what we in
America call ''the big picture.'' By that, I mean you've failed to
consider what a service you do for our country when you strap our
celebrities to flaming rockets and shoot them off into space. Heck, if
you play your cards right, this could be a real growth industry for you.

I don't blame you if you don't understand why I say that. You're not
exposed to American pop culture on a daily basis, so there's no way
for you to appreciate how truly noxious it can sometimes be. Take it
from me, it gets pretty bad. So much so that many of us believe
prolonged exposure makes you stupider by the minute. Indeed,
shocking research I just made up indicates that spending half an hour
watching Smackdown! causes your IQ to drop by a full 10 points.

That's why I think you have a golden opportunity here. You need to
realize that many Americans would happily pay through the nose --
that means, pay a whole lot of money -- to send certain celebrities
into orbit. Indeed, I'd be willing to use the good offices of this column
to get the word out on your behalf.

Think about it. You were willing to send one member of 'N Sync into
space for $15 to $20 mil. Maybe you could give us a package deal
for the entire group? Send four, get one free?

Come on, let's do business here. Name your price. How much would
you charge to send P. Diddy and J-Lo into space? How about
Michael Jackson and Al Sharpton? But don't stop there. Send Tom
Green and Anna Nicole Smith. Send Whitney and Bobby, Britney
and Christina, the Spice Girls and the Backstreet Boys. Send Miss
Cleo and Dennis Rodman. Send Paula Jones, Amy Fisher and Tonya
Harding. Send Maury, Jerry, Jenny and Ricki. Send anybody who's
ever been on Survivor, Temptation Island, Big Brother or Meet My
Folks. Send everybody who's ever been an executive of Fox.

Send everybody who's famous and no one knows why. Send
anybody who's stretching fame into the 16th minute. Send O.J. so he
can search for the real killers. Send Kato to keep him company.

I'm telling you, there's money to be made here. And you'll notice I
haven't even mentioned Congress. There's a whole 'nother revenue
stream right there. If you think we're eager to send our celebrities into
orbit, wait till you see how we feel about our politicians.

So what do you say? Do we have a deal? I'm telling you, if you play
your cards right, you could earn, conservatively speaking, a hundred
bajillion dollars. In addition, you would have the undying gratitude of
your friends, the American people.

Now that I think about it, though, there might be one hitch. So far,
every journey to the space station has been a round trip, but I think I
speak for my fellow Americans when I say we're only interested in
buying one-way tickets. Naturally, we expect that you will adjust that
$15 million to $20 million fare since you won't be bringing our
celebrities back.

Does two hundred bajillion sound fair?
Anonymous
Monday, August 12, 2002 01:20:49 PM
IP: 64.246.3.34

Warpmind: Sorry, I do not have access from home, only from work. I will e-mail you by end-of-working today.

Au revoir.
StephanieD - [SCurtin@icao.int]
Montr�al, Qu�bec, Canada
Monday, August 12, 2002 12:52:31 PM
IP: 192.206.28.62

Howdy all,

Nothing like questions about harthoth to rouse this little blue dragon from lurking. It's a huge ego stroke that Harthoth was so well received and so well remembered.

BigQuartet> While I wrote cowrote 'Deals & Exchanges' and 'Crossroads' I can't answer for TGS since I'm no loger with the group. What they have in mind is known only to them, but I can answer what I was thinking at the time.

Question 1> I don't know. That's will be answered in future episodes of Timedancer. I do recall that from when Brooklyn began his timedances to when he becomes mated to Sata, about ten years passed. I don't remember if it was hammered out how much time passed in season 2 or 3. Since Brooklyn spends forty years timedancing, there's thirty years to account for somewhere.

Question 2> Again, I don't know. (Let the green slime fall on my head) Actualy I'm curious about that one too. Brooklyn names Ariana and Sata names Graeme. Breaking out my Big Book of Baby Names, a must for any writer, Graeme is Old English, mostly a Scottish name and Ariana is Welsh. Why and how they picked those names raises a few question marks here to.

Question 3> The big one about Harthoth. I'll admit I became quite enamored by Harthoth. One time I had him doing everything, but that's unrealistic and too much Mary-Sueing things. But here are some facts I framed around Harthoth. 1) He's a scholar. I'd expect any high priest to Thoth the Egyptian God of Wisdom would pursue knowledge. 2) One of his human persona is named Khensu, another Egyptian god of the moon and travel. I liked sticking to night themes with naming gargoyle characters. Extrapolate from there, harthoth travels extensively and learns all he can. The whens, wheres and hows I leave to others' imaginations.

The Illuminati? I recall that Duval founded the Society in TGS. I wonder if Harthoth had some influence since the Illuminati symbol is a pryamid with a panoptic, but it is just as reasonable that the Society adopted the symbol some other way. I know that by 'Crossroads' Harthoth is well connected with the Society.

What is Nova Gaza? An optimistic hope that the different factions would get their act together and rebuild the Gaza Strip into a world-class city. Let's see, I wrote this back in 1998. I needed some cities to point out the region Gwenyvere might be. I had to have an African city. (Just a small rant of mine that African seems left out in stories about the future. (Though, I do recommend "Under African Skies" and "Under South American Skies", both good short story anthologies) Cairo was too obvious so I chose Nairobi. New Olympus was in the Mediterrean so I had a second point. I needed a third and Nova Gaza popped in my head. Nothing significant about the Nova. I guessed no one would name a new city, New, anymore. It's cliche'. So what other term could I use that conveyed new and future like.

For that last question, only time and timedancer will tell. I'm glad 'Requiem' left things on that uncertain note. It's hard writing stories when the outcome is already known. One of the reasons I dislike prophecies. Uncertainty is one of the most compelling elements in good stories. My guess is that they took the poison and killed each other. But that's only a guess.

Thank for asking questions. It certainly got the synapses firing.

Let me depart asking this question for posters to ponder:

What do you think happened that cause Gwenyvere to resent and hate Angela so?
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Monday, August 12, 2002 11:35:55 AM
IP: 24.205.117.201

The Moron was out of the house for two days Whoo-freakin hoo!!!
Orange County schools have started this week. Next Monday UCF classes start.

Ugh I now have a sinus headache. Well it could have been worse. It could have been a freaking migraine

Stephanie<<<find a wrestling/Yu Gi Oh video game with the soundtrack done by Shakira.>>>He has Yu Gi Oh Cards, and he has that new Wrestling game. He can�t stand Shakira�s music. He just likes to look at her body.

Warpmind<<<Equip it with a blonde wig, so that when he wakes up, he sees the back of its head. };) >>>Thanks the wig is a nice touch. I think we already have the wig.

Christine<<<The papers have all given it high marks.>>>Not our paper Of course they only gave LOTR four out five stars so what does that say?

DPH<<<Wilek should a monopoly on stupid ebay items.>>>They are not stupid. They are just strange.<<<Confused yet? >>>No

Josh<<<Your dream self needs a life.>>>It�s like my Con badge. �My dreams are strange�<<<Kicktothenuts.com demands a link.>>>Will do.<<<WTF!? Has he no taste?>>>He doesn�t care for her music, just her body. Like that thing you have with Brittney Spears.<<<Easy since you're blonde.>>>Ha ha. How did you get so smooth.<<<Huh?>>>Dreamy and Winter Wolf explained to me that YOU were the reason Dreamy kept smelling bread.<<<Actually I was at work so I just ordered a new one. >>>Just trying to keep the sappy saccharine junk out of the room.Josh<<<Let me tell you, carrying a 17" CRT up 4 flights of stairs SUCKS.>>>I would have
carried your stuff for you.

phire_kat >>>Welcome to the CR please deposit your sanity�wait I think you did. Hey make your self at home. We need more cats.

Gside<<<Mercy buckets.>>> you are not a pity whore<<<You, poor innocent little girl.>>>Hey bud who are you calling �Innocent?�<<<revere my hariness.>>>No prob

Jaden<<>>That�s how the moron feels about her.

Warpmind<<<who lives in Wagga Wagga, Australia!>>>There is a Wagga Wagga Australia? Well if there is a Walla Walla Washington then I guess anything is possible.

Lain>>>Learn to count. Your number ten this week.

Leo<<<almost 16 hours.>>>Told you it was going to be long.

Kathy<<<only to learn that I've developed a violent reaction to soft drinks and I can't have them any more - ever.>>>Damn that sucks. EVERY kind of soda??? Even rootbeer??? Or the Dew???

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida
Monday, August 12, 2002 10:23:06 AM
IP: 64.159.111.6

*Warpmind strides in, looking slightly smug as a big red V on his forehead slowly fades.*
Hey, gang. Just watched RHPS on video... Great movie. But with Charles Gray as the Criminologist, I'll have serious issues when watching Diamonds Are Forever tonight... ��

Gside: Oh, the music video didn't blow my mind, but I've heard the song before. However, it did take a little while to download... :/

And frank(n. Furter)ly, that seems to be all for this post... Dangit. Well, later on, everybody. *Time Warps away*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Monday, August 12, 2002 08:56:34 AM
IP: 193.217.216.26

I love eBay. So handy for finding things not common in ones one geographic local...

My weekend was really mixed. Friday, I went to my first Pro Football game, only to learn that I've developed a violent reaction to soft drinks and I can't have them any more - ever. I also learned that live proball is just as boring as I thought it was on TV, it's always nice to have ones suspicions confirmed. Funny thing, I like college football well enough.

I also learned that even a newly bought dried cured ham needs to be soaked for at least two days. All the ones I've cooked before had hung in the kitchen for at least several months and I knew they'd take plenty of time to rehydrate. So a nice pink color really isn't a good indicator of when a ham has had enough soaking.

On the upside, I've got tickets for 42nd Street this week. Yay! I've been wanting to see this show for years.

Anyway, DPH re:your self interneting computer. Two thoughts. 1: somebody has hijacked you via a trojan horse or 2: somehow your log in instructions have gotten reset to sign on at some other interval than you prefer. For the second check your preferences and for the first get one of the better antivirus programs that checks for backdoor intruders.

kathy
Monday, August 12, 2002 07:53:26 AM
IP: 66.32.96.159

My father is contemplating dremeling off Isildur's beard. It'll never work out.

Warpmind> <<Hard Work is not enough>>: And Rock Lee is out to prove that hardwork can beat genius.
<<Not really much else to reply to>>: Not even Hubba Hubba Zoot Zoot? I know it blew my mind.

Imzadi> <<carrying a 17" CRT up 4 flights of stairs SUCKS>>: Yes, but is portability of an LCD worth the extra money?
<<Does that imply they're actually considered currency somewhere?>>: Well, with Wilek, certainly. Elsewhere is debatable.
<>: You haven't even tried, have you?
<>: But it might not be local in New Hampshire.
<<Just long enough to check your email and download the CR>>: What about my webcomics? Graphics take a while.
<<Frequent sex does not imply an SO>>: All depends on whether we can glean that it's from the same source or many different sources.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:18:00 PM
IP: 68.38.244.145

sorry for second post.

There are plans for a direct archive link in the beta pages :)
Leo
Sunday, August 11, 2002 07:29:39 PM
IP: 172.128.253.112

BigQuartet>When I said to look in the archives, I should have specified "TGS Comment Room Archives" (sorry Lynati)

But.. I notice that there isn't a DIRECT link to the "Archive" page. You have to got to "Comment Room Info" first. [something to think about for a possible update to the main menu]

Anyway, click my name to go to the 2000 archive of the *TGS COMMENT ROOM* :-)
Leo - [<- 2000 TGS Archive]
Sunday, August 11, 2002 07:14:33 PM
IP: 172.137.64.148

For the discerning fan fic reader, I'd like to recommend the latest by Ellen Stolfa, "Nocturne in C Sharp Minor "

A beautifully crafted stand alone story.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Sunday, August 11, 2002 05:46:30 PM
IP: 68.102.19.135

BigQuartet <TGS questions> people have already directed you to the answers, but I'd just like to let you know that in the future, it isn't appropriate to post TGS-related questions in Ask Greg. Greg Weisman is not permitted to read TGS or any other gargoyles fanfic for legal reasons.
He has no knowledge of what has happened in The Gargoyles Saga.
Lynati (the schoolward-bound) - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Sunday, August 11, 2002 05:01:37 PM
IP: 141.156.221.237

Hmmm, seem to have missed the top ten.

Good evening folks.

Did a bunch of stuff today. Packed up most of the apartment and dragged it up to Berkeley. Let me tell you, carrying a 17" CRT up 4 flights of stairs SUCKS. Carrying up a tower also sucks. Why couldn't my apartment have been built with an elevator?! I also had to run a bunch of errands in preparation for going home next weekend.

I can't believe this summer job is over. I learned so much working at GE, met many cool people. That said, I hate San Jose and I will do everything in my power to avoid living here.

phire_kat: ummm, ok.

Gside: <<just what is the exchange rate for squirrel spleens>>: Does that imply they're actually considered currency somewhere? <<Only if you also revere my hariness>>: I don't think that's possible. <<Do you have any reccomendations from your collection?>>: Only if you include "lesbian" in "gay". <<My favorite is the wiring on supercolliders>>: I'm a bigger fan of the Access tunnels. Then again, I would be, since that's what I worked on. <<And an account, and a local number>>: I assume you have the latter. Every broadband account usually has a dial-up attached to it. <>: Just long enough to check your email and download the CR. I'm the master of using a limited-time slodem. <<might gloat about getting some, and by the frequeny of those we might be able to extrapolate>>: Not necessarily. I'm in college. Frequent sex does not imply an SO.

Wilek: That was random.

Demona Taina: <>: Too late.

BigQuartet: Keep reading and eventually you'll find out. All the info that is presently available to readers is available in the stories. If its not there, they don't want you to know yet.

Norway pretty much sucks.
-Warpmind de Inzane, TGS Comment Room

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, August 11, 2002 03:42:33 PM
IP: 64.160.47.120

Long countdown, almost 16 hours.
Leo
Sunday, August 11, 2002 03:35:30 PM
IP: 172.136.37.4

awwwwwww NUTS!

missed the top ten! :P
lain
Sunday, August 11, 2002 02:41:37 PM
IP: 65.92.91.57

9th! sucks to be tenth.
Gabriel "gaygoyle"
Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:49:42 PM
IP: 66.169.212.157

*Warpmind strides in, pondering* Whoa... Top Ten... 8th, even.

DPH: You do that. And don't forget, Attitude is just sufficient, while Hard Work is not enough. ;)

Not really much else to reply to, except:
Stephanie: Check yer e-mail and reply already, will ya? Otherwise, I'll sell the cards to the next guy, who lives in Wagga Wagga, Australia! (Home of the Wagga Wagga Literary Literary Appreciation Appreciation Society Society. REALLY!) :)

Later, folks.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, August 11, 2002 07:36:43 AM
IP: 193.217.216.109

Wilek> <<Fans of Britney Spears (...I think), click or your life will be forfeit>>: The song's The Baka Song, from Ranma Nibunnoichi. I put it up a while back. If you want I can put it back.

Demona Taina> <<Heck, everyone thought I was the most insane person in the comment room>>: Depends on what kind of insane. Wilek outclasses you in many areas.

Muchly slow. But I have an mp3 to make up for that. Wilek, you will want this one. Hubba Hubba Zoot Zoot, by Caramba. I repeat, that's Hubba Hubba Zoot Zoot. Also important selections of the lyrics are "Num," "A-Num," "Deba Uba Zat Zat," "A-hoorepa Hoorepa A-huh-hoorepa A-num Num," as well as a couple vocalizations I can best describe as blblblblblblbl. I like this song. And you can also find a music video featuring it in my eden account.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:08:04 AM
IP: 68.38.244.145

Big Quartet:>TGS Questions

Well, not all of them are spoilers.
<<(3b)Did he have anything to do with the Illuminati since they kidnapped the halflings to resurrect Apep?>>Reread
(in this order) "Gothic Twilight," "Deals and Exchanges," "Crossoroad pt. 1&2" It was my understanding that Harthoth is a member.
<<(4)What exactly is Nova Gaza?>>I remember seeing an explanation way back in the archives (way back when there were comments that were related to TGS)"Deals and exchanges" was posted April 19, 2000/ Return to Paradise, June 22,2000. Check the archive around and after those dates. All I coild tell you now it that it's in reference to the region known as the "Gaza Strip" (I think)
Leo
Yorktown, VA
Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:06:37 AM
IP: 172.140.233.44

7th.
Bronx
Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:05:14 AM
IP: 205.188.193.154

6th.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, August 10, 2002 11:54:23 PM
IP: 68.38.244.145

5th or 6th.

Early this time.
Leo
Saturday, August 10, 2002 11:40:31 PM
IP: 172.140.233.44

4th

>^,,^<
Mooncat
Saturday, August 10, 2002 11:11:23 PM
IP: 68.102.19.135

BigQuartet - <How many years does Brooklyn and Sata stay in the Future?> The grammatically correct question would be "How many years do Brooklyn and Sata stay in the Future?". The answers to your questions involve spoilers, but if you wait a while, Timedancer season 4 will premiere and you might get some answers to your questions.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, August 10, 2002 11:08:55 PM
IP: 204.94.193.52

Top 10, #3?
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, August 10, 2002 11:05:59 PM
IP: 204.94.193.52

Top Ten
Number two :P
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida
Saturday, August 10, 2002 11:01:08 PM
IP: 67.25.55.208

I've a few questions concerning TGS could someone answer them?

1)How many years does Brooklyn and Sata stay in the Future? Does he stay until the Space-Spawn war is won?

2)Where does Brooklyn get the names for Graeme and Ariana?

3)What exactly did Harthoth do in the thousands of years when he was Apep's slave besides serving Apep? Did he have anything to do with the Illuminati since they kidnapped the halflings to resurrect Apep?

4)What exactly is Nova Gaza?

5)Finally did Demona and Macbeth die at Castle Moray or were they saved?
BigQuartet
Saturday, August 10, 2002 10:50:09 PM
IP: 67.24.189.112