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Wow, since when have I been part of a soeciety? Is that anything like a society? Maybe it's similar, but subtly different, like an alternate timeline? Or is it like the demon/daemon thing?
Wilek
Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:56:08 PM
IP: 128.241.245.34

Lain> <<only if you can convince him outa that whole annoying "no sex" thing.. :D>> I've said it before, but in a soeciety like this, it bears repeating: Guys, if you have at least one working hand, you have no excuse for being led around by your hormones.
Wilek
Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:54:41 PM
IP: 128.241.245.34

Lain> <<if youre referring to me and gunjack>>: This time I think it's Robby and Heather.
<<he got a vasectomy>>: Not quite the same thing. In the important area of hormone production.

Imzadi> <>: Shouldn't be much worse than oiling up. Only really works if you're muscled and shaven, though.
<<Don't we all?>>: There are some who don't enjoy giving much.
<<Switch to carracho>>: Without a good Direct Connect server, I go with WinMX.
<>: Exactly.
<<Never>>: I'm surprised.

Lain> <<its 199,000$>>: House down the street from me went for $360,000. Don't ask about Rumson real estate (where Bruce lives).

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:47:02 PM
IP: 68.38.240.227

<<My advice – have a nice, long, 20-year engagement. Then reevaluate things>> .. only if you can convince him outa that whole annoying "no sex" thing.. :D << I could make the obvious parallels between two mantises mating and couples getting married, substituting the literal cannibalism with figurative talk about how all women are gold diggers and the legal system is devised to rape a man out of vast majority of his bank account whenever he tries to escape the oppressive, loveless union, but really, after this long run-on sentence>> yea.. maybe if gunjack actually owned ANY MONEY AT ALL and i wouldnt be marrying a guy TOTALLY IN DEBT.. yeah.. i spose you could draw that comparison ;) <<wouldn’t that just be needlessly redundant?>> vaguely..

lucky you, sj.. youre the only one i could think of responses to today ;)
lain
Saturday, August 24, 2002 10:51:05 PM
IP: 65.92.88.118

Yes, I am going to law school. Why? Cause the law has always interested me. At one time I figured I’d be happy getting a gig with law enforcement….you know, like the F.B.I. or Secret Service or something like that, but I decided to be a masochist and go through the torment of MORE school to get a law degree. After that, who knows. I’d like to do some prosecutorial work. I’d laugh the laughter of the depraved if I can somehow connive my way into becoming a D.A.

It’s either that or family law, where I’ll make my millions being a slimy divorce attorney.

As to which law school I’m in….eh, it’s in the D.C. area. And it’s pretty liberal. We had a speaker (one of about a thousand during the orientation sessions) the other day, extolling the virtues of being a public defender. HA HA HA HA HA. Keep your virtues and 22 grand a year salary, Mr. Bleeding Heart.

Lain: <<if youre referring to me and gunjack, it has something to do with backwards religious views and the resulting lack of sex :P>> Wasn’t necessarily speaking about you two, but what the hell. Your relationship applies as well. My advice – have a nice, long, 20-year engagement. Then reevaluate things. <> I could make the obvious parallels between two mantises mating and couples getting married, substituting the literal cannibalism with figurative talk about how all women are gold diggers and the legal system is devised to rape a man out of vast majority of his bank account whenever he tries to escape the oppressive, loveless union, but really, after this long run-on sentence wouldn’t that just be needlessly redundant?

Josh: <<Please don't preface your posts with Eminem>> I’m getting in touch with my hip hop side.

BTW, if you want to connect with the inner soul brother, like me, and immerse yourself in the finest of black culture, might I suggest each of you pick up a copy of “Black Men” magazine (“for caring, sensitive brothers”) at your local newsstand. Fascinating interviews with Ashanti, a piece on BET’s “Egypt”, and Gargoyles alumni Salli Richardson looking like a total slut in a nice pictorial. You love thought-provoking articles about the hot-button issues in African-American life? Do you want hot pictures of luscious ebony princesses with the badonkadonk butt? If you’re a man of colour, like me (the “u” is kickin’ it old school), you won’t want to miss “Black Men” magazine!

<< How'd you do on LSAT?>> Not so great first time around. 2nd time I took one of those annoying prep courses and did much better. <> For shame. Worship at the altar of Tera! <<You may be short and fat (though I don't know that for sure), but you are NOT cartman.>> Have I ever covered my physical appearance in here? I think I might have, long ago. Anyway, I’m not short (about six feet, so I’m average I suppose), and I’m delightfully muscular. Sort of. Okay, to be honest, I could stand to actually see the inside of a gym for a change, but I’m doing fine. It’s too bad I’m too lazy to become a roid freak, cause I’d be friggin’ huge if I juiced it up. <<As scott adams said "we're thinking about having sex with you! That's what we're thinking! Now stop asking!">> The very fact that women will not accept this is what allows us to continue this practice. “Oh, he’s just saying that. [Fill in blank] is a great guy friend, he’d never try to do anything intimate with me.” No, he isn’t. Yes, he would. We all would. With some variation, depending upon how hot the girl is. <<go see XXX. It kicks major @$$.>>: Hell yeah it does!>> I’m in utter shock at the amount of Vin Diesel backlash I’ve been seeing on the net lately. What’s wrong with you people? Which would you rather have as the next superstar of Hollywood – Vin Diesel, or Ben Affleck. I’ve made my choice. <<That's okay, spacebabie hasn't got a shot no matter how hard she hits on me.>> As a rule, I never rule out hand manipulation. You never know how the night’s going to turn out, it’s nice to have something to fall back if all else fails.

Mooncat: <<I'm sure you guys can't be as horrible as all *that*.>> Oh, but you don’t know me very well. Damn that Meghan’s Law!

Sevarius "Spoonie Luv" Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Saturday, August 24, 2002 10:36:13 PM
IP: 207.172.11.147

alesia:<<..timedancer season 3 "ruby eyes" its not even finished>>Are you sure you wern't having internet problems at the time? The last 2 lines are:
"Please. Take me home."
"The phoenix fires flared and the Timedancer vanished."
THE END
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There is a small typo that needs correcting though:

"Crawfordsville, September 5, 1981" should read "1891" to agree with the time reference in the following sentence:

"These things just keep getting bigger," Brooklyn gaped, unaware of the fact he had seen the Mothman a good seventy six years from now."

His encounter with the "Mothman" was in "Point Pleasant, West Virginia, December 15, 1967"

Yes I know, very minor typo, probably not worth the effort to fix.

Leo
Yorktown, Va
Saturday, August 24, 2002 08:56:35 PM
IP: 205.188.195.116

alesia - There's a link to view CR images BEFORE you post so there is NO need to spam the CR to look at the images.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, August 24, 2002 08:25:26 PM
IP: 204.94.193.29

hey all wanted to say hi, i really like looking at these pictures!!!!!!!
alesia - [anglweeza14@aol.com]
wildomar, cali, usa
Saturday, August 24, 2002 07:50:46 PM
IP: 64.12.96.138

hey sorry i put in the wrong email adress so i came back to fix it so, bye
alesia johnson - [anglweeza14@aol.com]
wildomar, california, united states
Saturday, August 24, 2002 07:46:54 PM
IP: 64.12.96.138

hey does anybody know whats the deal with the episode on timedancer season 3 "ruby eyes" its not even finished ,so if anybody knows please tell me about it ,thank you
alesia - [anglweeza142aol.com]
wildomar, california, united states
Saturday, August 24, 2002 07:43:06 PM
IP: 64.12.96.138

Josh> I know that about the firewire, I watch Screensavers on Techtv and they talk about it all the time. Go Marty!
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Saturday, August 24, 2002 05:55:34 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Heather: iPod for windows came out in the middle of July. Should be available soon if it isn't already. Check Apple's site. You'll need a firewire port on your PC.
Josh
Saturday, August 24, 2002 03:07:07 PM
IP: 64.165.202.125

Aaron> Still! The traffic and everything and the way you went to lines... Reminds me of my mom's driving.

Oh yea... Got to practice learning to drive today, urk. :P

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel> What is wrong with republicans?

iPod? HMMMM... Lets hope they make a Windows adaptor soon...

Melissaevans> Don't listen to Imzadi, okay. Just put your fingers in your ears and go "la, la, la". It helps. ;)
Yes we probably will never know any of the Manhattan's clans parental origins except for Broadway but it is okay. THAT is what fanfic is for. :D As for Elisa as a gargoyle, she was better that way. *nudge nudge to the TGS staff to MAYBE do an ep of her being one again, even for a short time, please!*
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Saturday, August 24, 2002 02:01:09 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

:(

the house I have wanted to live in, the one that is on the mountain where my mother is burried is up for sale. its 199,000$. im so sad :( i just sent a letter off to the house owner.. who was my mothers best friend. theres no way in hell i can afford that right now but.. if i got a REALLY shiney job then.. maybe.. the payments would be like.. 2000$ a month :P *sigh*

you have no idea what id do for that house... if only it was for sale NEXT year, not this year :(
lain
Saturday, August 24, 2002 01:34:56 PM
IP: 65.92.88.118

Headed off to Dragonflight soon. Got a game to run at 2:00 and many errands to run beforehand.

Been scouting out some travel plans for the holidays and by using up all my overtime and stash of mad money, I may just be able to scrape up enough to visit my relatives for the family pre-Xmas party and even squeeze in a trip for me and the Beccster to Disneyland. Each time we've taken her before, that darn Roger Rabbit ride -- the one thing she absolutely wants to go on MOST OF ALL IN THE WHOLE WORLD -- has been closed. Bets?

Book news > rather roundabout discouraging news on the fate of one of my short stories -- having not heard from them since April when I made the first cut, but having run across a mention of how the project was all finished on the editor's webpage, I must therefore conclude that I didn't get in. E-mailed about it, so will probably get the formal rejection sometime soon.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, August 24, 2002 12:02:31 PM
IP: 65.239.13.129

Christine and mooncat> thanks for the info on Kimberly. I don't read that many fanfics, so I am not familiar with a lot of the authors.

mooncat> I used the word "panic" in jest and not so much literally. I found it amusing the way you appeared to be so quick in attempting to suggest that Josh find some other roomies besides yourself and Spacebabie. *chuckles*
And no, we're not *that* bad - we're actually fairly nice people. :)

Kathy> Ironic that you went from slaughtering animals to saving them. *chuckles* just kidding. ;) Good luck on getting your property sold! I'm sure it must be beautiful property since it's in Oregon. I've never been there, but from the pictures and such that I've seen, it looks to be a very beautiful state. It's nice owning property like that, though. I have some acreage on Table Rock lake here and it's nice to just go down there and walk around.... it's "virgin" land and with the exception of one acre, it's totally wooded land. I have no idea of what I'm going to do with it - probably will just pass it on to Anna.
I have all I can handle with my home and yard (one acre).

Josh> Me get into the skimpy cheerleading outfit again?? *L* ummm no. The waist on my old skirt would probably fit around one thigh now. O.o
I take it that your mom has not found a job yet? =\

SJ> congrats on entering law school! :) Coming from a family that includes the legal profession - it's interesting. Do you have a particular area that you want to pursue?

DPH> yep, most criminals are caught because of their own stupidity. Probably around 80% of the cases solved here are from criminals blabbing about their crimes. *snickers* morons.

I've spent the morning cleaning the kitchen so I'm going to reward myself with a shopping trip to Rogers, Arkansas. ;)

Interesting tidbit for the day:
The first novel written on a typewriter was "Tom Sawyer".
Jan
Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:46:18 AM
IP: 12.215.180.182

Christine - re:Kimberly's new hatchling. *does a happy kitty dance* Whee!!! Kimberly had the baby!!!! And Fiona is a lovely name *^_^*

Jan - [*chuckles* it’s nice to see that others are suggesting room arrangements for you, SJ and myself, huh?] - *shrugs* Thought Josh was trolling for roomies. For some reason you and SJ came to mind. Hmm...

[I do think mooncat seems to be in a bit of a panic thinking you would actually take Spacebabie up on her suggestion of rooming with them. *L*]

Panic? Unless Josh is a klepto, nope. I have no trouble with sharing rooms with anyone as long as the other persons leave my property alone. Why would you think suggesting you and SJ as his potential roomies be an act of panic? I'm sure you guys can't be as horrible as all *that*.

Kimberly is a fan fic writer in the Gargoyles fandom, well known for her excellence. I am all joy to hear she's passed her very excellent genes on to a new generation.

Kathy - So it's official, you are selling the farm? Bummer. It sounded wonderful when you spoke of it at the Gathering. Wish I could buy it... *wistful sigh* Just ball park figures, what are you asking for it? I've always been sweet on the thought of owning lots of land. 16 acres sounds really nice.

Spacebabie -- mmm!!! Carrot Cake. I like all sorts of veggie cakes and breads. Zucchini bread is really nice too. For carrot cake, the frosting used is such a treat. I had a slice the other day, picked up from the grocery. Once the weather cools, I want to make some fresh, and some Zucchini bread too!

Interesting dreams. Wow, you get to dream Mara-sama and her mate! AND an amusement park!!! I'm jealous! >^,,^<

*yawns* must sleep now...

hoping for pleasant dreams *^_~*

Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Saturday, August 24, 2002 07:52:30 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

WOOHOO! Good day today. I got two packages. One from my dad with stuff I left and home and one with my gorgeous new engraved 20 gig iPod! It takes a couple minutes to transfer 3 gigs of music over firewire, but once its done its AWESOME.

Other than that I didn't do much today except study more for the GRE. I'll be taking it in the middle of september at the butt-crack of dawn.

We went to this crazy event tonight at the Apple Store Valley Fair. Started at 10:20 for OS X v10.2 and went until midnight. Saw a bunch of friends and talked macs with lots of people. It was weird seeing that many mac-heads in one place. They're scary.

Melissaevans: <<Ilove to watch gargoyles with my dad, because we both love gargoyles.>>: Congrats. You've evolved to speaking. <<Who is Brookyln"s father?>>: We don't know and likely don't care. <<Does Elisa Maza die inthe gargoyles tv show? yes or no?>>: No, and that second question was redundant.

Spacebabie: <>: Okay crazy. Whatever you say. <<we were going to meet at Wet N Wild ((Water slide park>>: No, I think its a strip club. <<So that’s why I’m loosing weight>>: Maybe its the exercise. <<As well as whip cream>>: Actually no, that's required. <>: neither of those would be comfortable. <<Okay, now bring on the hot buttered men>>: I don't think we like being buttered. <<You are cute, young, and a man>>: I'll agree with the last two. <<It’s a fact you have a complex>>: True. Its also a fact that I'm god 8-) <<Some of us where the title “Bitch” as a badge of honor as in. “I don’t take crap from no one and if you do pioss me off I will make life a living hell for you.”>>: Many guys take that attitude also.

Jan: <<it’s nice to see that others are suggesting room arrangements for you, SJ and myself, huh>>: No, not really. You can imagine how seriously I take them. <>: That's okay, spacebabie hasn't got a shot no matter how hard she hits on me. <>: Good. I only condone stoning of stupid people. <<I’m not all that much of a chocolate fan. It’s ok, but I can live without it>>: I thought all chicks liked chocolate. <>: Some redneck you are ;-) <<It’s not the same as folding a map back together – which I have a difficult time doing too>>: Men are better at that because we refuse to ask for directions. <<people at a burial service today outside of Springfield were struck by lightening, killing 4 people>>: HAHA! <<The inmates are well aware>>: Obviously she isn't. Are inmates advised of that? <>: Did they want you to wear the same skimpy uniform?

Aaron: <<The money the government take out of my paycheck doesn't irk me so much>>: You're a lousy republican. <<potential dollars in Shroedinger's wallet>>: Actually, those are yours. But at the same time they're not yours. <<Josh was picking Oberon's nose>>: Woohoo! Greg denied that oberon's boogers have any magical properties. <<Well, I like foreplay...>>: Don't we all? <>: I wish my grandparents hadn't just bought a lexus. <<You can admire a Lamborghini or Sarah Michelle Geller all you want, and you won't elicit that response>>: How about a new computer? <<That's why you need your own plastic>>: Plastic sheets? <<And death in carbon based life-forms>>: Well I think she's still alive. <<certain sexual side effects." What does that mean? It could be good!>>: Increases sensitivity! <<go see XXX. It kicks major @$$.>>: Hell yeah it does!

Sevarius Jr: Please don't preface your posts with Eminem 8-) <<Going through a lot of personal issues which would either a) bore you or b) you wouldn’t care anyway>>: When has that ever stopped anyone from posting such things? <<I’ve actually started law school.>>: Cool! Where? How'd you do on LSAT? <<download hardcore pornography off of KaZaa>>: Switch to carracho. <<you don’t get the benefit of my wit and witticism as much, and I don’t get to see nearly as many Tera Patrick videos as I want to>>: I think Raylene is hotter. <>: Don't hold your breath. <<So…..wasn’t she KINDA a whore>>: HAHA. <<YOU try reasoning with the Jawas>>: You may be short and fat (though I don't know that for sure), but you are NOT cartman. <<if you’re a hot chick, that “guy friend” of yours? The platonic relationship you value so much? He wants to do you>>: Amen. As scott adams said "we're thinking about having sex with you! That's what we're thinking! Now stop asking!" <<to a certain couple in here – why the HELL do you want to get married? SO YOUNG????? AT ALL?>>: Because they're stupid. <>: I rarely get ugly about Dells. Unless I'm asked for tech support help.

Kathy: <<good for you, but don't you think the world has enough lawyers as is>>: No. When we have lawyers who think with their heads instead of their wallets, we'll have enough lawyers. <<Does anybody want 16 acres in Southern Oregon?>>: I bet my mom does. Too bad she can't afford it.

DPH: <<Somehow, I doubt slapping one person in the year 800 bc will keep George Washington from being elected the 1st president of the United States>>: That doesn't matter. Its easy to justify. <<would there be any way to get Calculus invented earlier without dropping the information in somebody's basket>>: Probably. Major math concepts have a tendency to be developed at the same time in separate places. Then one person's name gets slapped on it. <<How can that moron financially stay afloat?>>: No idea. I have trouble staying afloat when I have a single girlfriend.

Jackal: <<what have we learned as americans?>>: When have we ever learned anything?

Gside: <<How do you make sure you don't overflow, underflow, or do something thinking you have the wrong number of bits>>: I have no idea. <<you are somewhat militant about them and there has to be something foolish you did at a Macworld or something>>: Never. <<He might appreciate it if he looks at it from a Freudian perspective>>: No. If she said "I'd rather have a carrot than a chocolate cake", then I'd have fun.

Lain: <<it has something to do with backwards religious views and the resulting lack of sex>>: So you're stupid? <<he got a vasectomy>>: Haha. Tell him he is less of a man.

Okay, time to sleep.

I just don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.
-Mr. Garrison, South Park

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Santa Clara, CA, US of A
Saturday, August 24, 2002 03:16:11 AM
IP: 17.255.232.158

*ducks in*

DPH: <How many have the same name?> *slow grin* None of them. and if you doubt me, I can send you the list.

Aaron: Hey, if we can start conversation in the fandom by just yelling “My world is a crotch” due to the number of Sluggites, do you think we could start a conversation among the Jack followers by yelling, “Could someone please stop these dolphins fro- oh, probably not. Nevermind. <<Oh, you were *traumatized* by my driving, not dramatized. That happens all the time. I'm usually better then I was that day tho'. With less people in the car, the music's louder and the car's faster.>> Thus, your singing can’t be heard. Poor Mara, on the drive down, being forced to listen to the both of us mangle Pat Benatar lyrics at the top of our lungs. Good thing the wind from going 95 mph blocked most of the sound, even if I did get sick from the cold. << And I shall get back to slipping as many Cyrway references into every MiST. >> Cybele: My gods, Lynati really *is* cloned from you, isn’t she? Huh...does that make you Ave’s uncle, or his grandfather?
<<And what fills those pages?>> Writing! Actual writing! <<Send me a copy.>> (As holo-virus Rimmer): Oh, no, I couldn’t possibly do that! Who’d clear up the mess?
...besides, you know as well as I do that I can’t post that fic until I acquire a pair of Thom Adcox’s pants. It just wouldn’t make sense without them. Duh.

*out*
Lynati - [Hubba Hubba zoot zoot...de lum lum...]
AMV, El hazard
Saturday, August 24, 2002 02:46:40 AM
IP: 65.66.157.33

oh no, no, wait! i forgot something!

this ones really funny.. i think i figured out why my dads bein so nice lately..

i was talking about getting my cat neutered.. cos hes a hyper thing.. a REALLY hyper thing.. likes to jump on kira and bite her and grab her face and try to scratch it with his back feet etc.. and neutering apparently helps with spazzy male cats.

well you see.. riiight before i started noticing my dad was being reaaally nice to me..

he got a vasectomy..

o.O

hmmmmm..... *ponders this strange observation*
lain
Saturday, August 24, 2002 02:09:24 AM
IP: 65.92.88.138

sj>> <<Guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess
who’s back……>> um... you? :D
why do they bury lawyers 6 feet under?? cos lawyers are reaaal nice deep down.. ;) sorry.. heard that one at the bus stop at 11pm tonight.. read your post and it just seemed so.. appropriate.. ;) <<but…….to a certain couple in here – why the HELL do you want to get married? SO YOUNG????? AT ALL?!?!?!>> if youre referring to me and gunjack, it has something to do with backwards religious views and the resulting lack of sex :P

wow.. and thats all i have to respond to. dont YOU just feel lucky :P

oh wait.. i saw two praying mantises mating today.

yeah, thats it.

night
lain
Saturday, August 24, 2002 02:02:04 AM
IP: 65.92.88.138

Imzadi> <<Such as?>>: You have two processes. One continually does something and flips a bit to one in a public file/array up to a certain size. The other process flips a bit to zero in the file/array and does something. Both these somethings are at least partially dependant on how many bits are in the file/array. How do you make sure you don't overflow, underflow, or do something thinking you have the wrong number of bits.
<>: Generally, you've been pretty good, but you are somewhat militant about them and there has to be something foolish you did at a Macworld or something.
<<Short trip>>: Yes, I know. But I didn't mention the impotence.

Spacebabie> <<Of course I would rather have a carrot cake than a chocolate cake. ((Go ahead Josh call me crazy))>>: He might appreciate it if he looks at it from a Freudian perspective.
<<As well as whip cream>>: And many, many other things.
<<Dude the water is the last thing I�m touching in that state>>: Come now, once you try it, nothing will ever be the same again.

Aaron> <<With less people in the car>>: Grammar lesson time. You use fewer when you can cout what you are talking about (fewer marbles, fewer pictures, fewer grains of sand). You use less when the object is divisible (less milk, space, less sand)
<<Click my name to see the webcam I secretly put up in FireStorm's new house>>: But perhaps the greatest gag of edible pets belongs to Excel Saga's Menchi.

SJ> <<At one of the most liberal law colleges I think on the planet>>: Brown? Do you have to be arrested before being admitted?

Daniel Johnson> <<It is dark in here. You may be eaten by a grue>>: I just thought of something. Wouldn't your sword glow if a grue approached and thereby scare it away?

LA> <<It is dark in here. You may be eaten by a grue>>: You need to add the http:// in order for it to be formated for proper linkage.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, August 24, 2002 01:26:32 AM
IP: 68.38.240.227

If you want some laffs click my name on my last post. U may find it amusing.
LA Again
Saturday, August 24, 2002 01:01:01 AM
IP: 67.201.141.152

Space<I agree that you tell her the truth if her guy is a total social reject *my jerk for moronic brutes who deal in the whole abuse vibe* But if you don't know the guy (and in my case mr. I'm trying to help you see things, does not know the guy he's slashing on) you do not overstep your boundaries and piss off the chic u're trying to be friends with. As for the title of 'bitch' I'm not a personal fan of the term. I believe you can be assertive and not take any crap from anyone without imposing such a designation.
Modern life: Package for college
Quote of the Day: "Don't flatter yourself, I was looking at your friend."
LA
State of Insanity
Saturday, August 24, 2002 12:59:47 AM
IP: 67.201.141.152

I sir will gladly join you in hell
The Corimthian
Saturday, August 24, 2002 12:58:21 AM
IP: 66.168.171.9

in a few weeks it'll be a year?!

and what have we learned as americans????
nothing!!! LoL

ya know what? nyc could be nuked and we would think nothing of it..., yeah we'd sad for a few months, but after that, its back to tha same ol shyt!! (cause i live in ga)

"ok then! i'm goin ta hell! who's coming with me?!"

::child:: somebody please help him! i think my dad's gone crazy!

"there's no mountain i cant climb, there's no tower too high, no plane i cant learn how to fly....
more pain inside of my brain than the eyes of a little grrl inside of a plane aimed at the world trade!..." - eminem
JacKaL - [screwthisshyt@rotten.com]
KaBuL, god is an alien, AfghAnistAn
Saturday, August 24, 2002 12:32:40 AM
IP: 67.192.41.109

DPH:
You rang? I guess I'm just a Lurking Grue. "It is dark in here. You may be eaten by a grue." I always loved that game. :)

And looky here, SJ's back too. I guess that summoning spell really works. Be very afraid.
----
Aaron:
Thank you for the welcoming.
----
Well, it's late and I need to get up early tomorrow for work. Good night.
Daniel Johnson - [daniel@daniel-johnson.org]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Friday, August 23, 2002 10:44:57 PM
IP: 138.89.76.120

*DPH makes two quick phone calls to confirm that the billion dollar fire works display and 100 mile long parade are still on to occur when next week's story is released.*

Lynati - <(I like to know who everyone is. No “nameless ensign in the red shirt” syndrome for me. If I’m going to kill someone, they’re going to have a name. Even if they aren’t very important.) > Hmm. <And no, the *biggest* thing was the naming issue. 3,276 down...500 to go. Not including any rookeries past 2010, save for Wyvern’s second set of eggs. > How many have the same name?

Imzadi - <Remember, this is fiction. Anything that you want can happen.> Somehow, I doubt slapping one person in the year 800 bc will keep George Washington from being elected the 1st president of the United States. <Yes. Just later. And by someone else.> I can buy that. But would there be any way to get Calculus invented earlier without dropping the information in somebody's basket? <Some guy in Utah has 15. Can you imagine looking at the first 14 and thinking "just one more, and the collection is complete!"> How can that moron financially stay afloat?

*Ignores Melissaevans*

Spacebabie - Be thankfull you haven't seen me creatively avoid answering questions.

Jan - <Stupid inmate story of the day> I think I heard that some cops going after users of illegal drugs love your jobs because the criminals are so dumb.

I summon Daniel Johnson, my twin, to return from the depths of lurkdown.

DPH
AR, USA
Friday, August 23, 2002 09:15:54 PM
IP: 204.94.193.24

Friday > Not over much to say. Other than...

S.J. Law School, good for you, but don't you think the world has enough lawyers as is?

Jan > Actually, I've been retired from the world of work for the last two years. But I have among other things been an Animal Services Officer/Shelter Manager, a Veterinary Assistant in a mixed large and small animal practice and homesteaded on my own farm (which btw is for sale. Does anybody want 16 acres in Southern Oregon?) So I have butchered and processed my own meat, delivered baby critters, euthanized others that needed doing so and so on and etc. Basically, it comes down to doing what needs to be done and not over thinking it too much. Of course, even though I have done many of the same procedures on animals (giving shots, taking blood, assisting in surgery) I doubt I could do the same thing with people, I just get really squicked out. Weird, but true.
kathy
Friday, August 23, 2002 09:08:44 PM
IP: 66.32.101.93

Jan > Kimberly is a fanfic writer, and quite a good one IMHO (I'm not just saying that because of the great background stuff she does based on my fanfic, either <g>).

SJ > commercials: I'd happily see the Dell Dude and the "Can you hear me now" guy in a cage match ... anyway, welcome back and good luck in law school!

Battlebots > forgot to post about it on Wednesday, but the new season has started. A spectacular new bot on the scene is Warhead, perhaps the coolest-looking bot EVER.

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, August 23, 2002 08:38:07 PM
IP: 65.239.47.96

SJ:<<Oh, and I’ve actually started law school>> Oh..scheiss!!
Leo
Friday, August 23, 2002 08:05:14 PM
IP: 172.173.34.24

Two trailer park girls go round the outside, round the outside, round the outside…..

Two trailer park girls go round the outside, round the outside, round the outside…..

Guess who’s back….

Back again….

SJ’s back….

To offend…..

Guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back……

<<I, twin of SJ, summon the great SJ! That he may start a flame war and make this room more interesting. >>

I have returned! Yes, I know, I’ve been gone for a while. My life, for real, is pretty turbulent right now. Going through a lot of personal issues which would either a) bore you or b) you wouldn’t care anyway. Oh, and I’ve actually started law school. At one of the most liberal law colleges I think on the planet (or so it seems…it’s going to be a long yet interesting year). So my time is kinds short these days. Basically, it means that I don’t have as much time to post in here or to download hardcore pornography off of KaZaa. So we’re losers all around – you don’t get the benefit of my wit and witticism as much, and I don’t get to see nearly as many Tera Patrick videos as I want to. But I’m here now! So enjoy me!

Of course, I could be persuaded to find more time for all of you if certain people *coughsorowcough* posted more *coughdreamiecough* often.

<<Then again, looks like I almost did myself with that comment about stoning women. Personally, I don't think ANYONE should be stoned for adultery. Or anything else. Stoning just irks me. I'm totally in favor of killing people. But generally I don't think that they should suffer.>>

Well, she had the kid out of wedlock, didn’t she? So…..wasn’t she KINDA a whore?

Kidding, heh heh. What I love about this is the outrage. “They stoned her for having a kid out of wedlock!” Well, yeah. They also beat their women if they show too much ankle. YOU try reasoning with the Jawas ( © by Eric Cartman).

Tears: << Phire Kat> introducing yourself as a 'bitch' does nothing to clean up that stereotype about women. If we, as women ourselves don't deem ourselves as something higher than mongrel breeding material, how do we expect others to treat us with respect? >>

Whoa, slow down, Ms. Steinem. I know plenty of women who use that term with pride. I’m guessing Phire Kat is one of them.
I also know a few girls who love “c***” said to them in the throes of passion. How about you?

<<Second on my rampage: note to all guys: you DO NOT tell a girl that she and her guy may 'not be right for each other' and you DO NOT tell her that maybe there's someone better out there for her!!!! >>

But sometimes it’s true. If you’re a true friend, you should be able to express your misgivings to her. Maybe you know things she does not.

<<You tell her these things if she's suffered a breakup...not cuz you think she's hot and wanna date her!>>

Sweetie pie, that’s our way in. Cause it’s true what they say – if you’re a hot chick, that “guy friend” of yours? The platonic relationship you value so much? He wants to do you. It’s how we guys are. We’re just looking for our in. We mean no offense. Just the way it is.

BTW, speaking about relationships……I probably shouldn’t say anything, cause it’s none of my business (but when has that stopped me before?), but…….to a certain couple in here – why the HELL do you want to get married? SO YOUNG????? AT ALL?!?!?!

Spacebabie: << Strange dream… I dreamt that Aaron and Mara were coming down to Orlando and we were going to meet at Wet N Wild ((Water slide park)). Well I couldn’t find anyone at first, but we did meet in the line for the ice cream booth. My mom met them and she being a Texan got along with Aaron.>>

Sounds Freudian. You probably just want an orgy with all parties involved.

He-Man: The eighties so rock again.
I dug the pilot. Can’t wait for the new series. The plot is as thin as ever, but the fight scenes are tons better (a little bit of anime influence), and the character designs are pretty sweet. Man-at-Arms & Trap Jaw own.

Patrick: << Or should I say, "Dude, I got a Dell!">>

If you do, I can’t not promise physical violence. Most annoying commercial on the planet. Outside of maybe that annoying little “Zoom Zoom” kid.

Coyote: Yes, He-Man was that damn good. ;) << as did I ... someone's been studying the Hong Kong cinema, in particular Zhang Ziyi (sp?))>> Correct spelling. I want her to bear my children. Ziyicorner.net.

For Wilek.

“There are conditions of the nerve endings,” it said, “the like of which your imagination, however fevered, could not hope to evoke.”
“…yes?”
“Oh yes. Oh most certainly. Your most treasured depravity is child’s play beside the experiences we offer.
“Will you partake of them?”
--- “The Hellbound Heart”

Sevarius Jr. - [sevariusjr@hotmail.com]
Friday, August 23, 2002 07:26:55 PM
IP: 207.172.11.147

Heather> <> Oh, you were *traumatized* by my driving, not dramatized. That happens all the time. I'm usually better then I was that day tho'. With less people in the car, the music's louder and the car's faster.

Wilek> <<OOoooooooooOOOoOOOoOOOo. Me rikey.>> I thought you might. <> Ummmmm, maybe. They haven't yet, but I'm still enjoying the ride.

Josh> <<<<You can scope out The Pennsylvania>>: Why?>> It's the 2003 hotel. <<If you didn't empty your wallet, then you'd have to empty your paycheck every year for some asinine road in bumf*ck NJ.>> The money the government take out of my paycheck doesn't irk me so much. It sucks, but it was never physically mine, kind of like potential dollars in Shroedinger's wallet. Whereas having to actually pull over every twenty minutes and fork out more dough is more immediately vexing. <<Its not a complex. Its a fact.>> "I don't have a God complex, senator. I *am* God." Alec Baldwin in (some movie I've never seen)

Leo> <<Revel said something about you mock fondling Titania's boobs during the MGT 3000.>> No, that was me. Josh was picking Oberon's nose. <<Does that mean that you're a lesbian trapped in a man's body?>> Well, I like foreplay... <> Ah. Well, Schertz, Selma, and New Braunsfels have grown a bit since then. There are still fairly empty stretches, but you're never more then twenty minutes tops from a McDonalds. <<Similar situation with Austin to Dallas.>> Well, there's Waco. Home of the Dr. Pepper museum. :)

GB> <<No, but I know Aaron and his views and I'd want to check him for anything.>> Huh? <> So do I. I want my remaining grandparents to be thrifty, so they'll leave me lots of money. ;) I'm just not much good at thrift. My standard response to hearing a friend admire something is "Do you want it?" (Within reason. You can admire a Lamborghini or Sarah Michelle Geller all you want, and you won't elicit that response)

Daniel Johnson> Welcome back.

Spacebabie> <<Not when you have a boy who is about to turn 20 in the house.>> That's why you need your own plastic.

Niamhgold> <<My head's still spinning from a Claritin 12-hour I took two days ago.>> Is that the one with the list of like twenty different side effects? Adding, "And death in carbon based life-forms." to the ends of prescription drug commercials has gotten to be a running joke in my family. I also love the ones that say they have "certain sexual side effects." What does that mean? It could be good! <<Whoo! I want in on drawing the garg porn!>> The more the merrier. <<And is their a...gasp...costume contest? I have several things I could go as... ;)>> That's being debated. Probably not, for fear of getting kicked out of the hotel.

Lynati> << \Isn't it great?!? I'm going to have to get back to the filk project soon.>> Yes, you must. And I shall get back to slipping as many Cyrway references into every MiST. <<...btw, Post-mortem is up to a full five pages now. mwaheheh.>> Goodness. And what fills those pages? Send me a copy.

Warpy> <<Dude, you're alive! Welcome back.>> Danke, danke.

Lain> <<okay, i can see 15 wives in a lifetime (even though that would be really silly) but 15 at once?>> I remember my middle east politics professor explaining why four wives is the ideal number...

Click my name to see the webcam I secretly put up in FireStorm's new house.

Oh, and go see XXX. It kicks major @$$.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Friday, August 23, 2002 06:28:22 PM
IP: 209.33.140.99

Leo> wow, I’m impressed! I thought it was just a stupid website. *L* I didn’t know that there was actually a purpose to it. Hehe

Christine> that’s great! Ummm… who are these people? ;)

Josh> *chuckles* it’s nice to see that others are suggesting room arrangements for you, SJ and myself, huh? I do think mooncat seems to be in a bit of a panic thinking you would actually take Spacebabie up on her suggestion of rooming with them. *L*
Like you, I will make my own room arrangements and will have plenty of people to choose from to room with. ;) I do find it amusing that you, SJ, and I have been categorized together, though. :)
Ohyeah, I knew you weren’t condoning actual stoning of women. I’m scared because I knew exactly what you meant. O_o
Besides, some are acting as if they have never heard of such things from the Islamic culture. It’s been common knowledge that atrocities such as this towards women have been happening for eons. This is acceptable in their culture.

Spacebabie> funny dream! Makes you wonder why you would dream something like that, huh? I love carrot cake! I’m not all that much of a chocolate fan. It’s ok, but I can live without it.

Heather> Your picture is very nice =)

Kathy> do you work in a field that you have your degree in? That would be very interesting. I don’t think I could do it… I have a weak stomach. =\

Ollie North – as someone else said, that story has been floating around for ages now… it’s not true. I think he is a great man, but he didn’t name Bin Laden in any of the hearings or questioning.

Folding paper – I have tried it with all sizes of paper and cannot fold (in equal/halves) more than 6 times. It’s not the same as folding a map back together – which I have a difficult time doing too. :)

Bummer… people at a burial service today outside of Springfield were struck by lightening, killing 4 people. Weird.

Stupid inmate story of the day: this gal has been in custody for breaking into a house… she has written a letter to her mom confessing to doing a string of break-ins at various storage units around the area. *blinks* ummm…. The inmates are well aware that the jailer reads all incoming and outgoing mail (except legal mail). So, she was pulled and questioned and eventually confessed to the crimes. She has tripled her sentence now.

Time to go to an alumni football game.... yeah buddy... my classmates will be the team with the most heart attacks, strokes, pulled muscles, and smelling like Ben-Gay. O.o I was asked to be a cheerleader (since I was in high school) and I said only if they had experts in CPR and the 1st Responders on standby. ;) i.e. NO way! I'll sit in the bleachers and cheer the teams on! My voice is still loud ;)
*puts on team logo shirt and be-bops out*
Jan
Friday, August 23, 2002 06:13:07 PM
IP: 12.215.180.182

ANNOUNCEMENT:

Another new hatchling has made the scene! Warmest congratulations to Kimberly Towle and her husband Andrew on the 8/14 arrival of baby Fiona! 7 lbs., 14 oz., born with a full head of dark hair.

Christine
Friday, August 23, 2002 02:41:16 PM
IP: 65.239.47.239

Wilek:<<a site that probably made some court-appointed therapist a lot of money>> Let's see if I understand this game.

Squeeze the tail of the annoying "wiener poodle" with the deformed head. This causes the head to separate from the body. The disembodies head then comes to life and proceeds to urinate(?)on the grass, then happily bounces away. Then a "blue domonic entity" shows up with a flaming left hand and a treebranch for a right arm. The puddle of urine has turned in to a lake. on the shore is a rock that blinks an eye when you touch it. To procede you either click the blue demons head or one of his "hands"

: clicking the head takes tou to the main game board. where there are shortcuts to the different levels.

: clicking the flaming hand causes the blue demon to "extinguish" its hand in the lake of urine. You see that strange "wiener poodle" again. Then you arrive at the bottom of the lake (I think)where the demon has been turned inside out. There are many "clicable" items but the important one is the hand that is attached to the "branch". clicking this causes another hand to grow from the original. clicking the second hand causes a third hand to appear from the demon's brain. clicking that sends you to the next level. After watching a few mor drug induced animations the demon arrives in a forest. Thn the sun shoots a bolt of energy at the demon who then proceeds to cut down all the trees. Another visit from the weinerpoodle and you're back to the beginning of the game.

: Clicking the "branch" takes you on a trip the land of the woodpeople where you talk to a "flying mermaid" (?) who instructs you to slash open her womb(?), sending you back to the beginning of the game. (Is there a beginning or an end?)

Im think there is some sort of envirnmental message to this right?

I'm sure this will just make everyone more curious.
Leo
Friday, August 23, 2002 02:34:24 PM
IP: 205.188.193.209

Well I have an new addiction. Those Sara lee cake bites. You stick the box in the freezer and and snack on those lil squares. My personal favorite is the carrot cake. Of course I would rather have a carrot cake than a chocolate cake. ((Go ahead Josh call me crazy))

Strange dream… I dreamt that Aaron and Mara were coming down to Orlando and we were going to meet at Wet N Wild ((Water slide park)). Well I couldn’t find anyone at first, but we did meet in the line for the ice cream booth. My mom met them and she being a Texan got along with Aaron.

Had another weird dream involving Yu Gi Oh

Replies

Phire_Kat<<<Dentists have recommended that a toothbrush be kept at least 6 feet away from a toilet to avoid airborne particles resulting from the flush.>>>Why am I reminded of a Seinfield episode?<<<You burn more calories sleeping than you do watching television.>>>So that’s why I’m loosing weight. I’ve been sleeping more and watching TV less<<<The first owner of the Marlboro Company died of lung cancer.>>>That my friend is called Poetic Justice.<<<Richard Millhouse Nixon was the first US president whose name contains all the letters from the word "criminal." The second? William Jefferson Clinton.>>>Makes sense. Of course the reason Clinton practically got off scot free was that he was charismatic and the economy was good. He could have murdered someone and still would have not been impeached.

DPH<<<Then who is better at creatively dodging answers to questions? >>>I believe Greg is still the master.

Gside<<<The binding and gagging are only optional for sex.>>>As well as whip cream<<<Not after you try the water.>>>Dude the water is the last thing I’m touching in that state. Especially compared to the water we have down here.

Josh<<<Well now we know what you're into.>>>I also would like to try it on a pool table and a pinball machine.<<<Either way, glad they're not here!>>>Amen<<<All that makes you is straight.>>>Okay, now bring on the hot buttered men<<<That doesn't say anything about me.>>>You are cute, young, and a man<<<I'm more of a microwave pizza guy.>>>Well you stick them in the microwave too<<<Its not a complex. Its a fact.>>>It’s a fact you have a complex.

Tears of Aphrodite <<<introducing yourself as a 'bitch' does nothing to clean up that stereotype about women>>>Sensitive much? Some of us where the title “Bitch” as a badge of honor as in. “I don’t take crap from no one and if you do pioss me off I will make life a living hell for you.”<<<you DO NOT tell a girl that she and her guy may 'not be right for each other'>>>If the guy she is with has a reputation of being a jerk or if your male friend knows he is a jerk then yes they should tell her. What kind of a friend is this guy if he knows that his friend’s boyfriend sleeps around or abuses her verbally and or physically???

Wilek>>>That site is almost as strange as you.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Friday, August 23, 2002 11:52:53 AM
IP: 67.25.48.183

Does Elisa Maza die inthe gargoyles tv show? yes or no?
Melissaevans - [Melissaevans13@hotmail.com]
Sunderland, Ontario, Canada
Friday, August 23, 2002 11:44:37 AM
IP: 207.236.126.85

Who is Brookyln"s father?
Melissaevans - [Melissaevans13@hotmail.com]
Sunderland, Ontario, Canada
Friday, August 23, 2002 11:40:10 AM
IP: 207.236.126.85

Ilove to watch gargoyles with my dad, because we both love gargoyles.
Melissaevans - [Melissaevans13@hotmail.com]
Sunderland, ont, Canada
Friday, August 23, 2002 11:37:41 AM
IP: 207.236.126.85

Click my name to see a site that probably made some court-appointed therapist a lot of money. I've seriously had nightmares similar to this.
Wilek
Friday, August 23, 2002 11:07:08 AM
IP: 128.241.245.34

<a href='http://bramka.info'>sms</a> http://bramka.info
sms - [none]
none, none, none
Friday, August 23, 2002 03:07:17 AM
IP: 212.76.33.65

Howdy. Did very little today other than watch TV and study for the GRE. Friends moved in down the hall, so that's cool.

phire_kat: <<thanks a lot josh I feel so freakin welcomed>>: My pleasure. Oh, and its not my job to welcome people. You want a warm welcome? Try not posting your spam and introducing yourself as a bitch. <<well I'm done put a fork in me>>: Bye!

Tears of Aphrodite: <<does nothing to clean up that stereotype about women>>: That's a stereotype? << you DO NOT tell a girl that she and her guy may 'not be right for each other' and you DO NOT tell her that maybe there's someone better out there for her>>: Even if its true? <<not cuz you think she's hot and wanna date her>>: How the hell else are we supposed to get our foot in the door?

Mooncat: <<Spam sucks>>: More importantly, its illegal. Too bad we can't make it illegal in here. <<lots of females here are bitches and proud of it. Pure bred or mixed breed, it doesn't matter as long as you got bite>>: Well said. <<boys make good pets>>: Girls do too. At least the low maintenance ones. <<I'm pretty easy going with sharing space as long as the other person respects my property and isn't a shower hog>>: Sadly, I've been known to be a shower hog. Unless I get yelled at once or twice. <<sharing rooms comes with the territory sometimes>>: And I'm willing to...I just don't think you're my ideal roommie. <<why not see if SJ is going? Or Jan? Or check out the Gathering comment board for people wanting roomies>>: I wasn't looking! It was just something random Spacebabie was commenting about.

Kaioto: <<the man's only political asset was a complete lack of anything resembling pride or a spine>>: That's a pretty valuable asset in many parties. <<money from the Chinese Communist Party trying to get a free pass on their on-going parade of human rights violations by buying a foreign election>>: More importantly, he can be bought by the **AA. <<we must not abandon our value-neutral stance on ethics and judgment, or they'll take away our liberal cards>>: Since when did liberals have value-neutral stances on ethics? Or anyone else for that matter. <<you backwards little pig-@#$%ers>>: Sadly, we have yet to put the actual pig-@#$%ers away. <<enough with your monthly dose of over-blown moralizing>>: Do you think you could do one about the RIAA/MPAA and their bastardly behavior towards consumers? I'm having a lot of trouble putting my frustration into words. <<next time you see someone get indignant about us passing judgment on other countries.>>: Oops. I just realized that you were ranting against me. My bad 8-) <<As for the completely self-centered, anarchist nuts out there that don't want the government to be able to do anything sneaky or under-handed, however, cry me a river>>: Excuse yourself. I am not an anarchist. The government has NO right to do ANYTHING to people that have no criminal record or any other reason to be suspected of being a threat other than being an avid computer user. <<That crap shouldn't fly for the Mob, the Klan, the Taliban, the Church, Enron, or Green Peace>>: Or the police or the RIAA or the BSA. <<it shouldn't even fly for the tall kid in the 3rd grade who takes the little kids' lunch money>>: Sadly, it does. And its that kid that later becomes the head of the Mob or the Klan.

Lain: <<hear that? i have FRIENDS>>: Yeah right, like we believe that one. Only on the internet. <<as the same guy called back, somebody is going to be paying for my phone to be changed now. sucks to be them>>: I hope you're exercising a bit more control over her. <<we only get a whole one day so i guess it evens out>>: Is Canadian thanksgiving done the same way as it is in the US? Traditional turkey meal and all that? <<stoning=bad>>: There are 30,000 students here who would disagree. Oh wait, you said stoning, not stoned. <<but.. what would be the point>>: To prove it can be done. What other point do you need? <<what would one need 15 wives for>>: Nothing worse than getting bored. <<you cant come over here.. youre in SCHOOL! HA HA>>: Actually I have three days left. Just enough time to fly there and back. << you could always share with me and gabe>>: No, I can't share a room with a couple. I'll go batty.

Greg: <>: Woo Ha!

Gside: <<With a large enough piece of paper, the bulge created at the fold would be negligable to the rest that overlaps>>: True. <<producer/consumer problems>>: Such as? <<it still makes me nervous>>: I can see how that would happen. But then I saw it done in OS X. <<But look at all you've done for your precious macs>>: I don't seem to recall acting foolishly about them. <<It's slowly eating you from the inside until you go stark raving mad>>: Short trip. <<life is generally considered by the outside world as what happens outside of your bedroom>>: I don't think so. Since "get a life" is often equivalent to "get laid".

Okay, sleep.

And now you see that evil will always win, because good is dumb.
-Dark Helmut (Rick Morranis), "Spaceballs"

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, August 23, 2002 02:16:33 AM
IP: 64.165.202.125

Quick note: did a site update. New stuff includes a pic of Aiden, and my slightly demented Iron Chef Pokemon Battle fanfic. Clickie! ; )
Christine - [< --- Site Update]
Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:29:24 PM
IP: 65.239.13.56

Imzadi> <<11 is the limit>>: I don't know. With a large enough piece of paper, the bulge created at the fold would be negligable to the rest that overlaps.
<<Or a cat girl in heat>>: That's for me. It'd be a bit too large for a standard cat.
<<You obviously haven't used OS X>>: No, but I have used UNIX and taken OS, including much discussion on producer/consumer problems and protection of critical areas, and it still makes me nervous.
<<Jazz?>>: Jazz. An inprecise art, at best.
<<Just because I'm a believer doesn't mean you can get me to act foolish>>: But look at all you've done for your precious macs.
<<Not what I meant>>: No, but I wouldn't mind a free kielbasa or five. And maybe some pizzagaina.
<<so when the broadband fails you can use a modem>>: With any luck, phone will be easy to acquire, so the scances of broadband being down in the meantime will be small and/or bearable.
<>: It's slowly eating you from the inside until you go stark raving mad.
<<What about the "being removed from your life"?>>: Seeing as life is generally considered by the outside world as what happens outside of your bedroom, it is a removal from the rest of your life.

Gunjack> <>: For the record again, it's like from my link, but with "www.eden" replacing "remus". And I found it through animemusicvideos.org, anyway.
<<I'll be your friend and build you an ultralight .50 BMG coat gun or something>>: You could always take a look at the currently last story paragraph of my Opus and tell me how awkward it is (Lain said she'd do it, but that's just one person). Or maybe find some way to arsenalize my bandannas.
<<Dang, but that looks like a fun series>>: I enjoyed it. Have it across 3 CDs (13 ep OVA), and might have sent it to Warpmind. Very nice action scenes, and rather odd stuff in between.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:24:29 PM
IP: 68.38.240.227

Oliver North. My first election as a registered voter was in 1994, when Oliver North ran against Chuck Robb(D) for US Senate. John Warner(R)the other Va Senator wouldn't even endorce North. Needless to say Robb won the election from all the votes that were against Ollie. He also made appearances as a "deep throat" on JAG - yeah, that show that ripped off footage from other movies (Top Gun, Executive Decision) for their flying scenes. Most "memorable" scene: FEMALE LEAD "Daddy could always count on you, Ollie." (she gives Ollie a friendly hug)

Leo
Yorktown, VA
Thursday, August 22, 2002 08:12:32 PM
IP: 172.172.164.22

Mooncat > the Dragonflight I refer to in this instance is a Seattle-based gaming convention. No direct McCaffrey connection, though that may well be where the name came from way back when it was chosen.
Christine
Thursday, August 22, 2002 06:39:08 PM
IP: 65.239.47.197

one other note...

Bitchiness - Funny... I didn't think this WAS a stereotype, but rather a somewhat crude expression for an attitude/mental state that is often found in women (and occasionally in men). Now, if it were claimed that ALL women were bitchy ALL the time, THAT would be a stereotype. As it is, you just sound kinda wierd.

Gside - Got the vid. Dang, but that looks like a fun series...
V
Thursday, August 22, 2002 04:50:44 PM
IP: 192.133.129.4

As a governmental Libertarian, I agree with a lot of the concern over the anti-terrorism acts past. They should be reviewed and amended with a fine-tooth comb.

The review and amendment process should be centered around one fundamental principle: public accountability.

Even if the government has national security interests that require activities remain classified, there needs to be a reasonable time-limit on any sort of suspension of due-process, and a review process on such actions that is eventually publically accountable.

We make our police officers file reports after the fact for discharging a fire-arm, why not the government for a delay of due-process under the law?

Seriously, how long can you detain a terrorist before his fellow fanatics realize he's been compromised? Honestly? Even if you make the detention public, you don't have to allow the detainee any significantly compromising contact with the outside world.

If you can't make sure that a temporty court-appointed attorney or observer isn't relaying messages to terrorist cells, the judicial system is more screwed up that I thought.

As for the completely self-centered, anarchist nuts out there that don't want the government to be able to do anything sneaky or under-handed, however, cry me a river. All I want to be assured of is that the sneaky business has to be justified to public review in the end.

A cop can end the life of an innocent man with his service revolver a lot more easily than the attorney general can snatch up some innocent guy and lock him in a hole forever.

We aren't taking away our police force's fire-arms for fear of misuse. Instead we make sure that they have to justify that use publically. The same sort of standard should be held to anti-terrorist activities that delay due process.

Don't use the piece (or the anti-terrorist goon-squad) unless it is worth the paperwork and the eventual scrutiny it will cause.

Oh, and this standard and empowerment should be applied across the board too: businessmen, military personel, and especially political activists. There are lines no groups should cross.

Coercion and intimidation of the citizenry and government are already illegal, but the law is pretty much ignored by certain groups with good lawyers firms. Recently, however, a couple of eco-terrorists were charged with using terror tactics against a local insurance agency who sold a policy to a chemical company that did animal testing.

Witness testimony states that the eco-terrorist pair made threats of setting the apartment complex on fire, threatened the safety of his family, vandalized property, and violated his personal privacy in an effort to coerce and intimidate him into dropping the policy.

The duo are in police custody, and hopefully most of their eco-terror cell will find themselves in similar predicaments.

The line between pursuasion and intimidation is rather distinct in most cases. "Change or we won't buy your products / come to work / eat," are permissable. "Change or we'll break your legs / kill your dog / burn down your house," are terror-tactics. That crap shouldn't fly for the Mob, the Klan, the Taliban, the Church, Enron, or Green Peace.

Hell, it shouldn't even fly for the tall kid in the 3rd grade who takes the little kids' lunch money.
kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Thursday, August 22, 2002 04:28:11 PM
IP: 208.204.155.241

Lain> I know, I've just always wanted ot say that. :D

Anyway, MGC and Avalon are up, yay! Been so long! I hope I can put in some of my "art" into either of them.

I know some people didn't look at my linky but what do you think of the pic of Icarus I made. I really want to know. I want comments from people I know more about the picture it is suppose to represent than some art teacher in high school that thinks anything that is not "Still art" isn't art at all. :P
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Thursday, August 22, 2002 03:54:11 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Just for the record, I have no problem with torturing, mutilating and killing terrorists and Taliban fighters.

On American soil, I believe everyone has the right to be captured, tried and convicted Constitutionally. But after that happens, let the torturing, and executions begin! BURN BABY! BURN!!!
Greg Bishansky
Thursday, August 22, 2002 02:38:36 PM
IP: 216.179.1.79

AAnnnnnnnnnd jsut to give greg a little help. :)
Gabriel "gaygoyle" - [<--- true freedom!]
Thursday, August 22, 2002 02:22:58 PM
IP: 129.120.35.51

Just to keep the political spectrum in this CR properly balanced, here's a link to an excellent article on the so-called "Patriot Act"

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=7241
Greg Bishansky
Thursday, August 22, 2002 02:09:34 PM
IP: 216.179.1.79

Oh, regarding that little Al Gore email that went around, based on my suspicion that if it were true, Al Gore wouldn't be found on the sunny side of any rock for the next century, I checked the urban myths databases. It's just another urban myth.

Oh, Democratic senators did question and berate Ollie North about a 5-figure security system on his house, and Ollie did claim to be threatened by a prominent Middle-Eastern terrorist, but it was not Bin-Laden nor was Gore on the committee that interogated him.

http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/ollie.html

Good place for urban legend checks.

Al Gore's factual face-vaults, waffles, inconsistancies, and out-right lies speak for themselves. No need for urban myths, they can't push the man any lower than he's already crawled on his own.

http://www.gargaro.com/algore.html

Good place for discovering just how entertaining Al Gore can be when he's not trying. ^_^
kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Thursday, August 22, 2002 01:23:55 PM
IP: 208.204.155.241

well I'm done put a fork in me
phire_kat
Thursday, August 22, 2002 01:21:02 PM
IP: 65.92.92.26

mm... working today. and going to a friends house (hear that? i have FRIENDS! *faint* thats about all. as the same guy called back, somebody is going to be paying for my phone to be changed now. sucks to be them :P *raises eyebrow at phire-kat*

fire storm/lady mystic: its aaaall fiiiiiiinished..... if you want to preview, let me know sometime tonight and i can sendy. :)

heather>> <<We only make a few Canadian jokes and this guy overcasts on us with "America, you suck ****" basically>> you know.. i *dont* think it was the canadian jokes he was pissed about :P

jan>> <<nope, not a bait... if I had wanted to bait you, I would have asked if you had written the article>> aaah. i see.. ;)

warpmind>> <<So YAY ME! I have a Place! :D >> HUZZAAH FOR YOU!!! :D

kathy>> <<the people living there should rebel with extreme prejudice>> yes, indeed.

spacebabie>> <> yeah well.. i think you guys get a week off for thanksgiving dont you? i know gunjack does. we only get a whole one day so i guess it evens out. ill just hate you on thanksgiving.. ;)

dph>> <<Clearly the law has a slant against women>> that law, certainly. but there are others which have slants towards men. also.. many of the laws that, in our countries might seem sexist, might actually save your life if you lived elsewhere. <<Now, if the law was changed so that she couldn't be stoned until her child's father was identified, I still would be against it>> yeah. stoning=bad. <<Give me a sheet of paper 10 feet by 10 feet and I should be able to prove you wrong>> sure but.. what would be the point?

josh>> << Can you imagine looking at the first 14 and thinking "just one more, and the collection is complete!">> oh dear :P but HONESTLY.. what would one need 15 wives for? okay, i can see 15 wives in a lifetime (even though that would be really silly) but 15 at once? how bored would they be with waiting their turn? :P:P <<Good saying! I like that>> hey dont look at me, i didnt make it up! <> yeah :) <<Don't make me come over there>> NYAH NYAH MY SCHOOL DOEST START TILL SEPTEEEEEMBER!!!!!! ;) (you cant come over here.. youre in SCHOOL! HA HA! ;) <<gathering roommie>> you could always share with me and gabe ;) hee hee!

mooncat>> <<isn't a shower hog>> i only hog if i dont have to pay for it.. yay long weekend and my dads house! ;)

kai>> <<Careful now, we must not abandon our value-neutral stance on ethics and judgment, or they'll take away our liberal cards>> up here, liberals dont have cards.. they have weathervanes.. <<Modern American adults and children have been raised with a complete lack of coping skills, reacting to every adversity by crying to either a lawyer or a therapist>> so very true.. and it begins to spread.. but at least we havent had someone sue cos they fell off a toilet seat.. yet.. :P
lain
Thursday, August 22, 2002 12:11:50 PM
IP: 65.92.92.26

Spacebabie - Ollie North video

Wow ... you know, the threat of being able to put that in a television ad should basically render Al Gore politically inert, which is a fine compliment to his moral and intellectual status. No big loss for the world, considering the man's only political asset was a complete lack of anything resembling pride or a spine. He sure could brown-nose a diverse section of donors. My mind boggles that a man can draw support from the human and animal rights crowd on one side, and money from the Chinese Communist Party trying to get a free pass on their on-going parade of human rights violations by buying a foreign election. Ah well, people are stupid.

Mooncat - I hope she loses her first appeal, so the case gets bumped to the Supreme Court. Then the country's constitution gets to have it out with the nut-balls who took over the rest of the judicial system. Either their constisution will put these jackasses in their place, or the country will be completely taken over by these fanatics.

Jan - [Designer Kidnapping] These people need LIVES. Exercise. Write bad poetry. Do charity work. Play a video-game or something. :P

Nice to see the Monthly Gargoyle Contest and Avalon Mists in full swing. :)

Lain and Mooncat etc - Careful now, we must not abandon our value-neutral stance on ethics and judgment, or they'll take away our liberal cards. :P

Seriously, at a certain point, any reasonable person with access to sufficient information, reasoning, and conscience is going to find things that are intellectually unacceptable about every society. It might not be popular or "nice" but when people push it to a certain point (Nazi Death Camps, Totalitarian Beijing, The Spanish Inquisition, the Taliban) you are obligated to say, "Alright, that's IT! Get in your hole you backwards little pig-@#$%ers! You don't get trusted with the power over so much as a lab mouse until you get your act together. Bad humans! Bad!"

And yes, the only way to do this is to brute-force it. Just count your blessings that you're on the side with the bigger guns in this Era. There were times when you wouldn't be (early Nazi Germany, Spanish Inquisition, etc.) and would be slain without remorse.

Generally, this recourse is only to be considered in situations of urgent need, such as to end violence or right-violations of innocent people. You don't get to do this to the Boy Scouts or the modern Church if they disagree with your world-view on equality, because they don't rule over anyone, they are volunteer-only bodies. You fight ideas you don't like with ideas. You fight ruling power with ruling power.

Now, the Inquisition Era Church certainly needed this treatment as they terrorized parties unpopular to the princes holding their strings ... but in Europe at the time (just like in modern America and Europe now) society did not perceive anyone with the moral authority to challenge the blatant atrocities. Also, for the most part no-one cared about the injustices unless they themselves or their families / consistuents / profits were the victims.

People in my country have finally pushed beyond the bounds of reason and practicality with tolerance and freedom. People pushing to not have to worry about their own petty indiscressions have opened the door. This is the door for hate-mongers and petty-dicators to tie our hands by claiming that we have to tolerate and permit their way of thinking as they move to strip away our freedoms and culture. We need to lay down some fundamental reasoning about what is right and what is wrong.

We need to say it is wrong when a government deprives its common citizen of certain rights.
We need to say that some of the best aspects of the West (individual freedom with individual protections and rights) are fundamentally better than the alternatives violent, Anti-Western governments and fanatics practice, what ammounts to military dictatorship with some book (Koran, Bible, the Little Red Book, etc.) as an excuse.
We need to take away the power from people who believe it is permissable to enslave and abuse people for being different in a non-threatening manner (ruling parties in Iraq, China, Iran, North Korea, and some parties in Isreal, Palestine, Pakistan, India, and many other nations).

No, we don't need to say that everything about our society is superior to every alternative.
No, we shouldn't start attacking everything that is different from us, even if it isn't a direct threat to our freedoms.
Don't go to stupid extremes like people typically do, but stop being wishy-washy, hand-wringing, "What if lime-jello mentally scars the children!?" morons.

There is a good time to kick ass: When fundamental rights and freedoms are threatened.
There is a good time to reflect and consider whether you actions are right or wrong: Always.
There is never a good time to turn away from the rest of the world and worry only about yourself.

Ah well, enough with your monthly dose of over-blown moralizing. Just some things to think about the next time you see someone get indignant about us passing judgment on other countries.

Today's Special Phrase is : "Coping skills"

Try it in a sentence: "Modern American adults and children have been raised with a complete lack of coping skills, reacting to every adversity by crying to either a lawyer or a therapist."

I love my country so much that I hate my countrymen some days.
kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:56:44 AM
IP: 208.204.155.241

Music video! Must... Have! And I don't know the address for yer eden account, Gside? Help? Please? I'll be your friend and build you an ultralight .50 BMG coat gun or something...
V
Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:56:19 AM
IP: 192.133.129.4

phire-kat - Hmm... well, on one hand I did not appreciate the huge post of trivia either. Next time just post one or two items that amuse you in particular, but don't post the entire text of every piece of spam that turns up in your e-mail. Spam sucks.

Good topics to use are personal events, gargoyle related topics, or just reply to an already brought up topic until you get the feel of the room.

Aphrodite - Actually, lots of females here are bitches and proud of it. Pure bred or mixed breed, it doesn't matter as long as you got bite. *^_~* Sorry to hear about your guy friend hitting on you. Before you get all mad at him for it, remember that boys make good pets. Well, some of them anyways.

Josh - sharing room with someone you flame with is pushing things a bit. But I'm pretty easy going with sharing space as long as the other person respects my property and isn't a shower hog. I've been going to fan conventions and ren faires type events for a long time, sharing rooms comes with the territory sometimes.

If you are looking for a Gathering roomie, why not see if SJ is going? Or Jan? Or check out the Gathering comment board for people wanting roomies.

Paper... depends on how thin it is, I can fold tissue paper (the kind you use as gift wrap) a dozen times or more.

later people!
Mooncat >^,,^<
Mooncat
Thursday, August 22, 2002 02:53:39 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Phire Kat> introducing yourself as a 'bitch' does nothing to clean up that stereotype about women. If we, as women ourselves don't deem ourselves as something higher than mongrel breeding material, how do we expect others to treat us with respect?
Second on my rampage: note to all guys: you DO NOT tell a girl that she and her guy may 'not be right for each other' and you DO NOT tell her that maybe there's someone better out there for her!!!! You tell her these things if she's suffered a breakup...not cuz you think she's hot and wanna date her! I can't stand arrogant males and I think I may just ex another one off my list of friends.
Tears of Aphrodite
State of Pain
Thursday, August 22, 2002 02:20:21 AM
IP: 67.201.141.129

thanks a lot josh I feel so freakin welcomed:oP
phire_kat
Thursday, August 22, 2002 01:08:08 AM
IP: 65.92.92.26

I, twin of SJ, summon the great SJ! That he may start a flame war and make this room more interesting.

Then again, looks like I almost did myself with that comment about stoning women. Personally, I don't think ANYONE should be stoned for adultery. Or anything else. Stoning just irks me. I'm totally in favor of killing people. But generally I don't think that they should suffer.

Mooncat: <<As an American, we are encouraged to have opinions>>: You must be living in a different America. <<Some people are going to think it's great and that we should have that kind of law here. --no, I don't think Josh is one>>: I greatly appreciate how you saved me from being flamed by every female in the room. Really. <<unless he was crazy enough to invite friends over to watch>>: Kinky. <<having the misfortune to be pregnant, is automatically "guilty">>: Well, it is tough to deny you had a child out of wedlock when you're *pregnant* and *not married*. The guy, on the other hand, had no witnesses. And they don't have DNA testing yet.

Lain: <<he already HAS two wives>>: Some guy in Utah has 15. Can you imagine looking at the first 14 and thinking "just one more, and the collection is complete!" <<do not enforce your own ethics on your children; they have been created for a time other than yours>>: Good saying! I like that. <<snuggled and fell asleep in my lap for about half an hour>>: I love when cats do that. Makes you feel all loved. <<my school doesnt start till the first week of september! NYAH>>: Don't make me come over there.

Warpmind: <>: I had something like that over the summer. Couldn't wait to get back into my larger, fully furnished expensive place ;-)

Spacebabie: <<Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir>>: Okay no matter what Oliver North says, spending 60,000 dollars on a security system is rediculous. <>: Well now we know what you're into. <<Somebody overdosed on the bitch pills. Either that or he is some ancient hippie draft dodger who settled in Canada and still can’t stand the country being run “By the Man”>>: Either way, glad they're not here! <<I’m a woman who likes sexy men>>: All that makes you is straight. <<Your parents are strange>>: No, just snobs. <<She likes cute young men>>: That doesn't say anything about me. <<They are a food staple amongst college students>>: I'm more of a microwave pizza guy. <<Like we don’t have enough guys in here with God complexes>>: Its not a complex. Its a fact.

Spacebabie: <<What's this about Josh sharing a room? Missed the that... I don't mind sharing, but I might have another girl with me>>: It's probably better if I don't share a room with someone I regularly flame.

phire_kat: <<No piece of paper can be folded in half more than 7 times>>: Actually its 11. <<You burn more calories sleeping than you do watching television>>: Yes but you only burn 3 calories per hour playing video games. And that's more active. So what's sleeping? One? <<$40,000 in 1987 by eliminating 1 olive from each salad served in first-class>>: And promptly gave it to the CEO. <<Venus is the only planet that rotates clockwise>>: Actually, that depends on your vantage point. I believe what you mean to say is that Venus is the only planet that rotates in its particular direction. All other planets go the other way. <<Apples, not caffeine, are more efficient at waking you up in the morning>>: I know my Mac wakes me up first. <<Marilyn Monroe had six toes>>: On one foot or total? <<Turtles can breathe through their butts>>: So can many humans. That's how they can talk out of their asses 8-) <>: Well the then moral of this story is that you don't need to post every useless email you get in here. We don't want to read them anyway.

DPH: <<Calculating the effects of altering history would be a challenge problem for a Pretender>>: True. But all you have to do is write them creatively. Remember, this is fiction. Anything that you want can happen. <<what would happen if you killed Isaac Newton on his 1 year birthday? Would Calculus still be invented?>>: Yes. Just later. And by someone else. <<Give me a sheet of paper 10 feet by 10 feet and I should be able to prove you wrong>>: The point is that size doesn't matter. But I believe a long piece of thin paper, like toilet paper, would work.

Patrick: <<mathematically, there is no limit to the number of times anything finite, like a piece of paper, can be divided in half>>: Well this isn't theory. And paper isn't infinitely thin. <<go buy a large road map and unfold it>>: Road maps are only folded in half four times. Try it out. 7 gets pretty tough. But I still think 11 is the limit.

Gside: <<but it still elightens me enough about how her mind works>>: HAHA. <<In heat>>: Or a cat girl in heat. <>: Agreed. <<I'd get nervous allowing a file to be modified while it was being used>>: You obviously haven't used OS X. <<That's not too often>>: Well my roommate eats constantly, and I don't want to be that fat. <<With the amount you deal with forces and strains and whatnot, it's close enough for jazz>>: Jazz? <<But you were the one who told me to preach it>>: Doesn't matter. Just because I'm a believer doesn't mean you can get me to act foolish. <<Give it to me, hopefully>>: Not what I meant. <<At least it's a bit flattering. And more than I'm getting>>: Doesn't matter much to me. If its not chicks I'm not interested. <>: I'd get phone before broadband, so when the broadband fails you can use a modem. <<How sausage is made, and how laws are made>>: I know both. What does that mean? <<The binding and gagging are only optional for sex>>: What about the "being removed from your life"?

Okay, off for tonight.

Anything worth having is worth cheating for.
-Unknown

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, August 22, 2002 12:53:44 AM
IP: 64.165.202.125

Imzadi> <<So you can hit on Gside>>: Woohoo.
<<Somehow I don't think that's what he meant>>: No, it wasn't, but it still elightens me enough about how her mind works.
<<Or a girl cat>>: In heat.
<<the way Gargoyles deals with time is a cheap way out>>: I don't see it as a bad thing as long as they stick to the rule.
<<Only on windows. No problems on Mac>>: I'd get nervous allowing a file to be modified while it was being used.
<<Every couple hours>>: That's not too often.
<<I'm CivE>>: With the amount you deal with forces and strains and whatnot, it's close enough for jazz. And it wouldn't have changed the meaning much if I only said EE instead of ECE.
<<No>>: But you were the one who told me to preach it.
<<More importantly, what does she do with it once its made?>>: Give it to me, hopefully.
<<Good. I'm tired of gay guys hitting on me>>: At least it's a bit flattering. And more than I'm getting.

Fire Storm> <<Yep, I am back!>>: Everything moved and whatnot?
<>: Which means you can get a new 22meg video. And it has the sword twirling scene, too. Do you still want me keep my mp3s there too?
<<Real post when/if ever I feel like it>>: Sooner, I would hope.

Warpmind> <>: Congratulations.
<<and a washing machine>>: I say the order should be comp, broadband, phone, washer. Broadband won't be any good without a semi good computer, and there's always laundromats until you get money.

Kathy> <>: Woohah.
<>: Don't tell me, for there are two things no man was meant to know. How sausage is made, and how laws are made.

Spacebabie> <>: The binding and gagging are only optional for sex.
<<Jersey needs a hella lot of reasons>>: Not after you try the water.

Patrick> <<go buy a large road map and unfold it>>: Yeah, but they aren't folded in half constantly. First, it's usually an accordian fold.

Normally, I don't do much techno, but I got a good anime music video with it first, so I picked up the music too. Do It All Night, from Dance Dance Revolution. The video is in my eden account, using footage from Jubei Chan.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:40:15 PM
IP: 68.38.240.227

Christine - Dragonflight? Is it based on the Anne McCaffery novel? Details, please! If that's the premise I'm there with bells on!

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:03:23 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

I'm a bitch nice to meet you all :oP
phire_kat
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:52:09 PM
IP: 65.92.92.26

Hey, all.
One more night to get through. Six in a row, ugh, I just have to keep reminding myself how glad I'll be when the check comes. At least it's been mostly quiet, though last night was symptom city. Lots of "voice activity" going on.

Book news > the contract for Black Roses from RAP is on the way. I'm told the audio book will be done by the Bookfest in October, but then I heard that last year ... we shall see. Which'll be ready first? Print or tape? In other news, I finally (halfway into the damn thing) figured out where Tell No Tales is going. Should be done with the first draft in a few weeks. Then it's fanfic time for a whole month!

Site update either Thursday or Friday. Got a new pic to add and the Iron Chef fanfic too ("Marvelous! Bravo." -- J. Kovalic <g>).

Any Seattle-area folks going to Dragonflight this weekend?
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:10:36 PM
IP: 65.239.47.189

DPH<The biggest thing would be figuring out a version of Bushido and Eastern Morality that works for the Japanese clan unless you don't plan on getting close to the gray areas with that clans.> That is one of the areas where the TGS files may be useful. I haven’t gotten into belief systems of the gargs so far, namely because while clans my have allied with certain cultures over time, it does not necessarily follow that they would become part of the culture. For example, the Mayan gargoyles are very concerned with protected the Green from destruction, while the Maya themselves cleared large parts of the jungle away for both use for cultivating crops and for roadways. The Mayan humans were all for growth of the culture, but I don’t think the Mayan gargoyles were too keen on that aspect of the project.
What I’ve mainly been working on how the gargs in certain areas reacted with *past* cultures, and the dates of certain historical events concerning the clans, as well as physical characteristics of each clan in general, including what species the animalistic ones in certain areas resemble.
And no, the *biggest* thing was the naming issue. 3,276 down...500 to go.
Not including any rookeries past 2010, save for Wyvern’s second set of eggs.
(I like to know who everyone is. No “nameless ensign in the red shirt” syndrome for me. If I’m going to kill someone, they’re going to have a name. Even if they aren’t very important.)

Lynati
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 08:17:00 PM
IP: 66.140.84.233

I just posted the usless info from a silly email I got sheesh :oP
phire_kat
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 07:39:40 PM
IP: 65.92.92.26

Wow... are people really making rooming arrangements for G2003 already? I still need to survive the last few weeks of THIS summer before I plan for next.

Folding paper - mathematically, there is no limit to the number of times anything finite, like a piece of paper, can be divided in half. A theoretical 2D plane of finite area and zero thickness may be folded upon itself infinite times. As it is folded, its area approaches a limit of zero. This can be defined the geometric sequence 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8... 1/(2^n), where n = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc. Now, given a real piece of paper that has nonzero thickness, it may get difficult after a certain point to keep making folds, but it is by no means impossible to go beyond 7 folds.

And if you don't believe me... go buy a large road map and unfold it.

:: end math lesson ::
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 07:10:28 PM
IP: 67.38.241.150

Ed - <Thanks for fixing all those ‘Pendragon’ links.> You're welcome. <There still seem to be problems with ‘The Longest Day’ part two and ‘Night of the Weird’ though.> I just fixed that. <Also, the season 3 and season 4 archive still seem to be labelled
incorrectly. The season archives themselves are fine, it’s just that the most recent two seasons have the wrong labels (not a major issue of course), so season 4 has this one: http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/images/s1ea.gif > I didn't catch that because normally, I don't autoload images while surfin the net. I have Netscape 4.7 set not to autoload images and Internet Explorer set to autoload images. Anyways, that's a matter of someone on art staff creating a couple of logos or the staff deciding to do something different. Hopefully, that matter should be resolved soon.

Spacebabie - You know that you should forward that bit of info to Rush Limbaugh. <Just like Greg!> Then who is better at creatively dodging answers to questions?

Lain - <the whole thing really started cos this guy.. yeah, he already HAS two wives.. he was called into the womans house by her father, and asked if he would marry her, or at least help pay for the child - so instead of being a responsible guy, he went and yabberd to the authorities. the REAL kicker is that he was aquitted, because a) the confession of adultery he made in front of the womans family and *TWO* police officers was retracted (cos if youre the guy and you want to retract your confession, you can, unless mooncats magical 4 *MALE* witnesses can be found) and b) he claimed never to have met the woman, even though they live in the same small village.> Now, that is sexist and wrong. Clearly the law has a slant against women. [I'm saying that 3/4 of the problem with the law is that it comes down unfairly against women. Now, if the law was changed so that she couldn't be stoned until her child's father was identified, I still would be against it.] <yeah, tell me about it. and today, i was feeling all depressed about my essay, and kira (who has been VERY bitchy and antisocial ever since charlie moved in) came and jumped up on my chair, then snuggled and fell asleep in my lap for about half an hour! it was wierd... shes NEVER done that :D, she usually runs away when i try to pet her, silly snob.. oh wait.. shes a CAT, duh :P > Interesting.

Mooncat - <Sure we do. We can judge others all we want, it's called having an opinion. As an American, we are encouraged to have opinions.> Unless you're a Christian, because then the media would either ignore your opinion or find some way to seriously debunk you or your opinion.

Imzadi - <So in other words, the way Gargoyles deals with time is a cheap way out because the writers don't want to have to worry about how stuff changes.> nice comeback. Calculating the effects of altering history would be a challenge problem for a Pretender. My favorite theory is that at the Centre, there was a project Chronos that took every available pretender to work on it to get the results right. First of all, I would like to start by saying there are a few basic things everybody (or nearly everybody) agrees should be prevented: global thermonuclear war, a massive virus that wiped out 1/4 or more of the world's population, and a few other things that most everybody agrees can not be justified. Beyond that, anyone who wants to alter history believes the ends justify the means or he/she wouldn't be willing to take the risk. Also, I believe that going back in time 1000 years to kill a virtual unknown person would not have a big impact on the present day except changing out the population of America (some people ceased to exist and others came into existance with the net effect being negible). However, if said person was an unknown, why would you kill him/her? But what would happen if you killed Isaac Newton on his 1 year birthday? Would Calculus still be invented?

Lynati - <Unfortunately, other than the four canon clans of Wyvern, London, Ishimura, and Chac Ixchel, and the TGS clans in Caledonia and Paris, none of my clans correspond with the Greg Weisman/TGS version, so the TGS files are only nominally useful.> The biggest thing would be figuring out a version of Bushido and Eastern Morality that works for the Japanese clan unless you don't plan on getting close to the gray areas with that clans.

4 more days and approximately 6 hours until the next story.

*DPH confirms reservation of 100 mile long parade to go through CR when the next Timedancer story is released. DPH confirms of billion dollar fireworks display to start when the next Timedancer story is released.*

phire_kat - <No piece of paper can be folded in half more than 7 times.> I thought it was 5 or 6 times. *just folds a piece of paper in half 6 times and can't go anymore.* Give me a sheet of paper 10 feet by 10 feet and I should be able to prove you wrong.

DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 05:45:38 PM
IP: 204.94.193.13

DPH: Thanks for fixing all those ‘Pendragon’ links. There still seem to be problems with ‘The Longest Day’ part two and ‘Night of the Weird’ though. All the pictures seem to be fine. Also, the season 3 and season 4 archive still seem to be labelled incorrectly. The season archives themselves are fine, it’s just that the most recent two seasons have the wrong labels (not a major issue of course), so season 4 has this one: http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/images/s1ea.gif

Todd: A belated Happy Birthday!
Ed - [ed@steelclaw.org]
London, England
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:52:18 PM
IP: 213.187.48.92

useless info
Mosquito repellents don't repel. They hide you. The spray blocks the mosquito's sensors so they
don't know you're there.
Dentists have recommended that a toothbrush be kept at least 6 feet away from a toilet to avoid
airborne particles resulting from the flush.
The liquid inside young coconuts can be used as substitute for blood plasma.
No piece of paper can be folded in half more than 7 times.
Donkeys kill more people annually than plane crashes.
You burn more calories sleeping than you do watching television.
Oak trees do not produce acorns until they are fifty years of age or older.
The first product to have a bar code was Wrigley's gum.
The king of hearts is the only king without a mustache.
A Boeing 747s wingspan is longer than the Wright brother's first flight.
American Airlines saved $40,000 in 1987 by eliminating 1 olive from each salad served in
first-class.
Venus is the only planet that rotates clockwise.
Apples, not caffeine, are more efficient at waking you up in the morning.
The plastic things on the end of shoelaces are called aglets.
Most dust particles in your house are made from dead skin.
The first owner of the Marlboro Company died of lung cancer.
Barbie's full name is Barbara Millicent Roberts.
Michael Jordan makes more money from Nike annually than all of the Nike factory workers in
Malaysia combined.
Marilyn Monroe had six toes.
All US Presidents have worn glasses. Some just didn't like being seen wearing them in public.
Walt Disney was afraid of mice.
Pearls melt in vinegar.
Thirty-five percent of the people who use personal ads for dating are already married.
The three most valuable brand names on earth: Marlboro, Coca Cola, and Budweiser, in that order.
It is possible to lead a cow upstairs...but not downstairs.
A duck's quack doesn't echo and no one knows why.
The reason firehouses have circular stairways is from the days when the engines were pulled by
horses. The horses were stabled on the ground floor and figured out how to walk up straight
staircases.
Richard Millhouse Nixon was the first US president whose name contains all the letters from the
word "criminal." The second? William Jefferson Clinton.

And, the best for last.....

Turtles can breathe through their butts.
phire_kat
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:27:30 PM
IP: 65.92.89.128

ah its a good thing lain puts up with me or I'd be out on the street, we can all say "yay" to her cos she got her silly essay done at last...myself well I get my real first pay this friday so WOOHOO! Hey does anyone know how to become a writer for TGS? I was just wonderin...anyways TTYL
http://www.gryffindortower.net/Library/Presto/ginnyrella.htm
phire_kat
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:17:56 PM
IP: 65.92.89.128

Wow, interesting info Spacebabie. I remember when people were saying Oliver North had a chance for a presidential bid. I always admired how he did not fold under pressure. Plus he has a nice face. *^_^*

What's this about Josh sharing a room? Missed the that... I don't mind sharing, but I might have another girl with me. Trying to drag my bestest best girlfriend to come along too.

I miss her so desperately much. Seeing her for a few days in VA was fantastic, but all too brief. This time hoping she can attend the Gathering for the full event plus the day after tour so we won't be rushed. Then time with her in VA. She has a beautiful home in the country, I'm so envious because it's much more rural than my house. SPACE and LAND all around... sigh. I live on the edge of my city. Unfortunately I'm on the side of the edge where the houses are fairly close together. I can look past my cul de saq to see the vast field beyond where somebody keeps horses. Quite a sharp change. I want more country. I want more land and biiiiiiiiiiig yard, so I can justify a tractor mower =) And keep my own chickens for fresh eggs, and let my cats out of the house without having to worry about them getting hit by cars or dogs. My neighborhood has so many dogs. I'd want to get my own dog though. I miss my Dalmation, Machiavelli. sigh... Had to give him up back when my ex-boyfriend was living with me. Machi loved to bark and play, and since I'm a night person Machi would bark and try to get me to play with him at night. My housemate was an incredibly light sleeper, and couldn't take it. He found Machi a home with a co-workers parent who had a country place.

I should have kept the dog and ditched the guy. =( But he was paying halfsies on bills, and the dog wasn't.

ah well...

Going on a grocery run. Made Chicken Terriyaki last night, but found out I'm out of wild rice and broccoli, my fave side dishes for CT. So put the chicken in the fridge, and plan to have it for today's lunch/supper. Yay!!!

Mmm... maybe some fresh green peas to go with!

So tired! Went to bed mucho late after downloading model sheets from a great site, but with a sloooooow download. Literally it took 5 to 10 minutes for files to download. gah...!!! Yes... there... were... GARGOYLES *^_^* heh, mainly just Brooklyn, but beggars can't be choosers. Went to bed after 4am, and dreamed model sheets nonstop until I work up a bit ago. Model sheets dancing through my head... sigh.

later
MC
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:59:32 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

today was better traffic wise, except when it was time to leave, and woo hoo I got my books.

Did this REALLY happen.
Got this from a friend....
Here is something you might find ironic, given the situation we find
ourselves in and the statements that are being made in the news recently:

What a difference 15 Years makes........... Anyone remember this?

It was 1987!

At a lecture the other day they played an old news video of Lt. Col. Oliver
North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan
Administration. There was Ollie, in front of God and country getting the
third degree, but what he said was stunning!
He was being drilled by some senator;

"Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience," Isn't
that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir"

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce
it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people
laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. "Why are you so afraid
of this man?"

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie
answered.

"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir, if it were up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be
formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown
of the clip.

(If anyone is interested, the senator was none other than Al Gore.)
Replies.

Jan<<<You allow yourself to be bound, gagged, roughed up a bit and ripped from your daily life.>>>I thought that was called sex.<<<Angry Canadian>>>Somebody overdosed on the bitch pills. Either that or he is some ancient hippie draft dodger who settled in Canada and still can’t stand the country being run “By the Man”.

Gside<<<The guter is what they call the space between the panels. >>>And if he is stuck between the panels and needs a quick fix…<<<Jersey needs no other reason. >>>Jersey needs a hella lot of reasons.<<<Right. You're not a gay man.>>>I’m a woman who likes sexy men.

Firestorm>>>Stay away from Wilek’s fetuses

DPH<<>>Just like Greg!

Josh<<<Accidentally overslept because my computer's volume was off so I couldn't hear the alarm clock program go off.>>>Hate when that happens. <<<Managed to get to the airport on time to find a HUGE (2+ hour) line for Southwest (and my flight was in 50 minutes). Then I realized I wasn't checking anything and walked directly to the gate.>>>That is exactly what happened to me when I went to the airport for the gathering.
<<<Aren't they supposed to live on campus?>>>Some of them live in the college Park Apartments.<<<No.>>>Your parents are strange<<<Sure.>>>Mebbe we’ll dance again in New York.<<>>She likes cute young men.<<<never had one of those.>>>Dude? They are a food staple amongst college students.<<<Just what we need. >>>Like we don’t have enough guys in here with God complexes<<<Or a girl cat.>>>I have plenty of girl cats.

Lain<<<h, and on the bright side, my school doesnt start till the first week of september! NYAH!;)>>>I hate you.

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:34:34 AM
IP: 67.24.93.11

Geeze the articles and topics being discussed seem like they're ripped from the latest edition of "Sick Sad World".

The stoning thing. It's not like this is a group of people following an ancient (for their culture) tradition. The religious authority that's enforcing this has only been in power for the last half decade or so. It's nuts. Someone should smuggle this woman and her kid out while there's time and the people living there should rebel with extreme prejudice. IMHO, of course.

Vanity Kidnapping > Uh, whatever.

Gside > Yeah, I know how to make kielbasa. I even have a recipe or two around here some place.

Happy (Late) Birthday, Todd!

Congrats on the apartment, Warpmind

Cheeri-bye,

kathy
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 09:53:33 AM
IP: 66.32.101.93

*Warpmind wanders in, looking weary, but content.*
Heya, everyone. I got my apartment... Small place, but fully furnished and fairly cheap. All that remains is to pack my junk and move - and to get a phone installed... and a new computer... and a good internet connection... and a washing machine... But those are really small inconveniences at present. So YAY ME! I have a Place! :D

Stephanie: Assuming you've sent payment, how soon do you think it'll be in my hands? I'm getting kinda short on time, what with packing to move'n'all... I'd like to get the cards shipped out before I leave.

Gunjack Valentine: Good to see ya back, man. So, I see you're into Hellboy... You're aware that Steve Jackson Games have published the Hellboy RPG, right? }:)

Aaron: Dude, you're alive! Welcome back.

Dreamie/Winterwolf: Hey, I hadn't seen those pics from LAST year's Gathering album! *Flips through* WHY hadn't I seen those pics from last year? Õõ *Downloads photos of self to hard drive* Good, clear photos of myself of a fairly recent date... YAY!

And frankly, there's not really much I can reply to anymore... But here's a thought... If writing is mental masturbation, does having your mind blown mean you're using a ghostwriter? *Ducks and runs to avoid the flying vegetables*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmind@hotmail.com]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 08:16:32 AM
IP: 193.217.177.212

Lain> nope, not a bait... if I had wanted to bait you, I would have asked if you had written the article. ;)
Jan
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 07:22:53 AM
IP: 12.215.180.182

SPIKE - Thanks for telling me about the revised version of "Knight Life" - I'd read about it somewhere else on the Internet, but hadn't gotten the full details until now. Pity that I didn't get the full story until yesterday evening; I was at Borders yesterday on my birthday, and if I'd known about it, I might have looked out for it. Oh, well, there's always next time.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 07:18:36 AM
IP: 65.56.174.189

Jan> GEEZ. That article! Male PMS indeed. We only make a few Canadian jokes and this guy overcasts on us with "America, you suck ****" basically.
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 06:16:55 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Hey all! Yep, I am back! Kinda... slowly...

Gside: I got everything from your Eden account.

Real post when/if ever I feel like it.
Fire Storm
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 05:18:31 AM
IP: 66.72.177.229

the whole thing really started cos this guy.. yeah, he already HAS two wives.. he was called into the womans house by her father, and asked if he would marry her, or at least help pay for the child - so instead of being a responsible guy, he went and yabberd to the authorities. the REAL kicker is that he was aquitted, because a) the confession of adultery he made in front of the womans family and *TWO* police officers was retracted (cos if youre the guy and you want to retract your confession, you can, unless mooncats magical 4 *MALE* witnesses can be found) and b) he claimed never to have met the woman, even though they live in the same small village.

mmmmm DNA testing....

so anyways, unless the appeal goes through, they dig a big pit, put her at the bottom, and throw fist-sized rocks (big enough to hurt but not big enough to kill outright) at her until she dies - or they could tie her to a tree or pillar and do the same. yuuuummy :P

however, the real story is, of course, the political intrigue. its not really so much about this woman as the parliamentary and presidential elections next year and in 2003..

oh, and yo guys? muhammad (pbuh and all that) has something to say to you: "do not enforce your own ethics on your children; they have been created for a time other than yours." (al-athar)

and thats what i have to say about THAT.

mooncat>> <<We can judge others all we want>> but not if yer a christian.. ;) <<My opinion is that a law that setences a woman to death for having sex is totally sucky>> only sex outside of marriage.. <<allowing men who make such laws and enforce them to enslave women>> unfortunately, men dont get off so easy ALL the time. the injustice is pretty balanced, actually. more like authority enslaving populace in general.

jan>> <<What a sick world we live in....>> indeed.. but of all the reasons id pick to give an example.. thats not exactly the one id be first to choose.. o.O <<[<--- *rolls eyes*]>> nice bait.. but no fish for you ;)

mecord>> <<Click my name and will take you to all my gargoyle stories thus far>> fankee :)

dph>> <<Hmm. good mind-cat coordination>> yeah, tell me about it. and today, i was feeling all depressed about my essay, and kira (who has been VERY bitchy and antisocial ever since charlie moved in) came and jumped up on my chair, then snuggled and fell asleep in my lap for about half an hour! it was wierd... shes NEVER done that :D, she usually runs away when i try to pet her, silly snob.. oh wait.. shes a CAT, duh :P

todd>> happy belated birfday!

oh, and on the bright side, my school doesnt start till the first week of september! NYAH!;)

mmmm yes. time for sleepage.
lain, whos essay is FINALLY completed! TA DAAAAAH!!!!
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 03:45:58 AM
IP: 65.92.89.128

Adultress - No, the males are NOT put on trial, because there would need to be FOUR witnesses to the sex act for a man to be brought to trial. So unless he was crazy enough to invite friends over to watch, no man will get so much as a slap on the wrist for his involvement.

The woman, having the misfortune to be pregnant, is automatically "guilty" and will be stoned to death.

Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 02:40:08 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Adulteress>> Well, the media is reporting only the woman being convicted. It would seem logical that her accomplice would follow. So a) the media isn't reporting the full story (which isn't surprising) or b) he wasn't caught. I don't know Islamic law, so I can't really comment on what the Qu'aran says should be done to the man.

Angry Canadian> Some facts, but WAAAAAY too clouded in anger and ignorance. Sort of like Rush Limbaugh...no! It's the left-wing version of Ann Coulter: bash rather than present logical, coherent arguments. :P

mmmmmm, sleeeeeeeep
Gabriel "gaygoyle"
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 01:21:47 AM
IP: 66.169.212.157

Josh - <<In all fairness, we have no right to judge other people's culture/values.>>

Sure we do. We can judge others all we want, it's called having an opinion. As an American, we are encouraged to have opinions. My opinion is that a law that setences a woman to death for having sex is totally sucky. It's also my opinion such a law's existence doesn't have any value other than allowing men who make such laws and enforce them to enslave women.

<<They see adultery for women as badly as we see murder. I'm not saying they're right...but maybe we shouldn't judge so fast. >>

Yes, the woman gets stoned. The man she slept with gets off scott free. Personally, I don't think one has to think really long and hard about this. Some people are going to think it's great and that we should have that kind of law here. --no, I don't think Josh is one, but we all know there are hard core fundalmentalist types right here in America that eat this kind of extremism up with a spoon, this stoning women for having children out of wed lock is used to be part of Judeo Christian law too -- That's their opinion of course and they are welcome to it.

Me, I hope the woman wins her appeal so she is not dragged out and battered to death with hurled rocks as soon as her baby is weaned, because she had sex with a man out of wedlock.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:43:50 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Designer Kidnapping - Sounds just like a fancy, expensive role playing game. I don't see what's so "sick" about it. Some people with a lot of money want to buy exotic and unique thrills. As long as they are paying to be the "victim", and not victimizing someone else, it all sounds like silly adult fun. People who bring up real life children being kidnapped and snapping at consenting adults playing with other consenting adults with no children involved at all, are simply carping.

The crazy ex-prison guard who snatched the little girl in Texas didn't do it because silly rich folks were having a professional company snatch their adult selves away for a while. Sick is people REALLY kidnapping children, not adults engaged in consenting fun with other adults.

If you don't like it, don't pay for it.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:28:53 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Howdy. Accidentally overslept because my computer's volume was off so I couldn't hear the alarm clock program go off. Managed to get to the airport on time to find a HUGE (2+ hour) line for Southwest (and my flight was in 50 minutes). Then I realized I wasn't checking anything and walked directly to the gate. Woohoo! Flight was uneventful, but the shuttle taking me back to Berkeley broke down and I had to hoof it across campus with my huge backpack on.

Mail call: bills, bills, credit card applications, and a jury summons. Yuck. I'll have to convince them I don't live here. Should be easy enough, since my driver's license still says LA.

Happy b-day Todd.

Kathy: <>: Sweet! <<make various kinds of sausages>>: That sounds dirty. <>: Good for you. Its a step in the right direction.

Spacebabie: <<Can we make it a rule for Freshman to take the bus or carpool during the first semester>>: Aren't they supposed to live on campus? <<Not even Krispie Kreme>>: No. <>: Sure. <<you, Mooncat, me and someone else>>: I don't think mooncat would share a room with me. <<all I had was a Hot Pocket>>: I've never had one of those. <<why the hell would I want to go there>>: So you can hit on Gside. <<It leads me to the backyard?>>: Somehow I don't think that's what he meant. <<You are acting more like Greg Weisman every day!>>: Just what we need. <<We have to have a password to post here now>>: No, but phire-kat needs one to get onto Lain's computer. <<Give that cat some shrimp flavored cat treats and lots of nuzzles>>: Or a girl cat.

Mooncat: <<Got to love that old time religion, eh>>: In all fairness, we have no right to judge other people's culture/values. They see adultery for women as badly as we see murder. I'm not saying they're right...but maybe we shouldn't judge so fast.

Spike: <<Of course, I had a hand in this. See right here -- I.B.M.: Invented By Merlin>>: That explains a lot.

DPH: <<Typical response from a lazy man>>: Yes it is, and yes I am. <<The problem I have with history being able to be altered is it's too easy for that to be abused and too often, the complete consequences of history being changed are never fully explored and things are assumed to be almost the same except for the one big detail>>: So in other words, the way Gargoyles deals with time is a cheap way out because the writers don't want to have to worry about how stuff changes.

Mecord: <>: Maybe you should switch to something more valuable.

Todd: <<it'd be nice for the clan to have a candidate who's pro-gargoyle>>: Its worth considering for the TGS staff a mayoral candidate (or even a presidential one) who is *secretly* pro-gargoyle and doesn't say anything until after he/she is elected.

Jan: <<What a sick world we live in>>: So true.

Gside: <<How are the other descrambled channels>>: Eh, we fixed it. Silly error too. <<which do not like being modified while the browser is being run>>: Only on windows. No problems on Mac. <<that is the problem>>: Ah, now I understand. Explains a lot. <<How often are you hungry>>: Every couple hours. <<just as ECE as MechE>>: I'm CivE. <<Can I get a hallelujiah>>: No. <<uncured monkey leather>>: Well, that's true. <<Do you know how to make kielbasa?>>: More importantly, what does she do with it once its made? <<You're not a gay man>>: Good. I'm tired of gay guys hitting on me.

I bet you lost your viginity to a mechanical bull.
-Stewie, Family Guy

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:22:28 AM
IP: 64.160.47.120

Ed - <Also, the season 2 archive for ‘Pendragon’ is cut short.> That's funny. I could have swore it was complete when I looked at it a minute ago. ;) Make sure to check the links and tell me if they are any dead ones or if any the images don't load properly.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:57:07 PM
IP: 204.94.193.78

Imzadi> <<Ideas? Is it the tuner?>>: Sounds likely. How are the other descrambled channels?
<>: In one sense, yes. But then there are the files that Quicktime uses to run and integrate itself with browsers itself, which do not like being modified while the browser is being run.
<<And don't all major browsers support the QT plugin?>>: And that is the problem, since it was running while he was updating.
<<Or any engineer for that matter>>: I don't know. You're small. How often are you hungry?
<<You wish>>: As do you.
<<Willing to sell?>>: Nope. Transformers are theoretically just as ECE as MechE.
<<preach it, brother!>>: Can I get a hallelujiah from the chorus?
<>: Which is technically warm uncured monkey leather.

Kathy> <<and make various kinds of sausages>>: Do you know how to make kielbasa?

Spacebabie> <<If he is in the gutter and needs a quick hair fix>>: The guter is what they call the space between the panels.
<<Still why the hell would I want to go there?>>: Because I'm here, and because it's Jersey. Jersey needs no other reason.
<<It leads me to the backyard?>>: Right. You're not a gay man.
<<Clinton?>>: No, Bill the Bard.

Happy birthday Todd.

Fire Storm> <<Hi. My name is Wermer Bramice. My voice is my passport? Verify me>>: Se Tec Astronomy. Good movie, but it's Werner Brandes. And see my eden account for the script.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:32:59 PM
IP: 68.38.240.227

An article that my brother sent me via email:

NEW YORK | Bungee jumping lost its white-knuckle appeal? Skydiving grown as lackluster as a kiddie roller coaster?

Don’t fret. Today’s stimulus-seeking New Yorkers have found a new adrenaline rush: designer kidnapping.

You allow yourself to be bound, gagged, roughed up a bit and ripped from your daily life. And you get to pay thousands of dollars for the privilege.

The business scheme is the brainchild of Brock Enright, 25, an artist who grew up in Virginia Beach, Va.

‘‘Many people treat it like the latest in extreme sports — it’s like a fun house that’s been brought right to you,’’ Enright said.

Clients pay $1,500 on up to be snatched and carted away for a period that can last hours — or several days.

Every client’s kidnapping is customized, depending on their preferences.

‘‘People will give me a window of opportunity to do the kidnapping. Some people give me a window of a week. Some people give me a window of a month. I do surveillance and figure out their most vulnerable time during that window, and that’s when we do it,’’ he said.

Sculptor Jason Peters, 25, has purchased three kidnappings so far. He compares the experience to running a marathon: You may not like it while it’s actually going on, but afterwards you’re proud you made it through.

He said each kidnapping is different, although ‘‘I’ve always told them I never want any broken legs or cuts, even if I am able to take a certain amount of pain.

‘‘I’m usually kidnapped for anywhere from about 10 to 20 hours,’’ he said. ‘‘Once I was blindfolded so I had to depend on my other senses.

‘‘I like it because it’s a way to test yourself and to find out more about yourself,’’ he concluded.

The New York Police Department’s hands are tied so long as no laws are broken and participating parties are consenting adults. But a police spokesperson said that the practice is not something the department condones.

Critics charge such a violent activity shouldn’t be portrayed as fun and games when children are being kidnapped and killed.

Just this week, young children in California and Texas were taken from their families by strangers before being found and returned.

Enright said his service is for consenting adults, not non-consenting children, so ‘‘it’s a very different thing.’’

And although some clients have been worked over a little, everyone is given a code word they can scream out to stop the kidnapping any time it becomes too scary.

But Jane Grady at the Center for the Study and Prevention of Violence in Boulder, Colo., said she hopes designer kidnappings don’t become a trend.

‘‘This sounds too bizarre,’’ she said. ‘‘Why would someone want to do this? Because they can’t find anything else in life to enjoy?’’

Enright’s business started as an underground service for his thrill-hungry friends that was opened up to the public after an acquaintance agreed to pay $300 to be kidnapped.

Business has taken off this summer strictly through word of mouth, since Enright hasn’t advertised.

He said demand is growing so fast he’d consider launching the service in other big cities such as Atlanta, Chicago or Miami.

Enright, who relies on a cast of about 15 operatives — or ‘‘birds,’’ as he dubs them — said his designer kidnappings are big productions ‘‘in that I have to hire actors, gather the props and then set everything up.’’

So far about 26 people have paid for his service, and he’s currently designing eight more abductions.

His clientele is split evenly between men and women, with most customers in their 20s. The oldest has been 45.

Some people want to be kidnapped on the streets of Manhattan. Others want to be kidnapped from outside their homes. Some people understand where they are going, and some don’t. The thrill comes in not knowing when the ‘‘birds’’ will swoop in and strike.

‘‘So far most people seem to think we’re participating in the filming of a movie or something, and no one has interfered when we’ve kidnapped on the streets,’’ said Enright.

[From the Dayton Daily News: 08.16.2002]

What a sick world we live in.... O_o

The link is to another article - this one sent to me by a friend. I think someone was PMS'ing when they wrote it.

Jan - [<--- *rolls eyes*]
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:50:42 PM
IP: 12.215.180.182

Todd & Mooncat>> Actually, this is a new version of "Knight Life" -- it seems that the book had been optioned for a movie, and in the course of writing the screenplay, Peter David realized that he'd made a LOT of freshman writer errors in the book so when the movie thing fell apart, he talked his publisher into re-doing the original book and incorporating some of his screenplay into it. I'm really enjoying it!

Has anyone read any of Laura Joh Rowland's books? I'm getting into her Sano Ichiro mystery series about a samurai detective in 17th century Japan. I wish I'd been reading her stuff back when I was writing "Dishonor" and "The Promise" for Timedancer!!
Spike
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 08:25:16 PM
IP: 64.216.236.220

Heyla Room!
Mecord, you write? Do you write more than fanfiction? My college has no Creative Writing Major either, so it's kinda you go with what's closes and most entertaining. For me that's performing arts and playwriting for the time being.
LA
State of Lonliness
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 07:18:20 PM
IP: 67.208.85.148

DPH: <Recently, I just completed putting together a Guide to TGS Gargoyle Clans.>
Yes, I know. I'm on the TGS staff, after all. I even sent a reply yesterday to the question brought up by Ed concerning the way the stories Pendragon/Gargoyles season two are posted.
I wanted to offer to help with the current organization research, but then I'd remember I still had a lot to do on my own stuff, and get back to work on *it*.
Unfortunately, other than the four canon clans of Wyvern, London, Ishimura, and Chac Ixchel, and the TGS clans in Caledonia and Paris, none of my clans correspond with the Greg Weisman/ TGS version, so the TGS files are only nominally useful. (Especially since I have alternate versiosn of events in many cases.) It is possible that a few exist or will later be formed, like several mentioned in the Timedancer Stories, but a good many of them simply don't match up to the history I coughed up for the gargs in my dimension.

hmm, this Peter David guy sounds intersting. I'll have to look into his stuff.

and before I forget again: happy birthday, Todd.
Lynati
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 07:17:40 PM
IP: 66.141.252.225

Thanks to everyone who wished me a happy birthday.

SPIKE - Yep, I've read "Knight Life", although I don't think that it was an influence on my take on Merlin in "Pendragon". Incidentally, I can't help but wondering what would happen if King Arthur was running for Mayor of New York in the Gargoyles or TGS Universe. Now that'd be interesting. (Although it'd be nice for the clan to have a candidate who's pro-gargoyle).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 07:13:27 PM
IP: 63.208.41.220

Lain>> You're right I should have posted the link, I forgot completely. Click my name and will take you to all my gargoyle stories thus far.

Daniel Johnson>> <majored in Anthropology> Interesting is good. Literature has its ups and downs, sometimes it can be interesting and fun, other times its a real pain.

Gside>> <You can teach> only in collage, and then only literature. The teaching track for kindergarten to high school is a seperate major. I acctually wouldn't mind teaching. being a student is what sucks. between work and school and everything else I try to do I get majorly stressed. <right brainer> and proud of it. :) although my left brain is no slouch either. I acctually get better grades in science, math, and computer science classes than I do in some literature classes.

Josh>> <why on earth is that your major> because it's the closest thing to creative writing my collage has. It's not ideal but it serves. I get exposed to a veriety of literature while I brush up my creative writing skills in between the twenty page essays my teachers assign.

that's all for now.
Mecord
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 06:45:43 PM
IP: 12.255.11.48

Spike - Knight Life - Very good book! One of Peter David's earliest, he wrote it back when rocks were soft *^_~* Before he got big in comic books and tv/film related books. It and his other original work, Howling Mad, a werewolf tale about a wolf who got bit by a were and turned human, are nice reads.

MC
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 06:41:58 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Thank you Spike/Hayden. :D

Don't really got much to say today, except for changing my keyboarding class to a Business Law class because the keyboarding class makes my right hand hurt more than usual because I couldn't use my orthopedic pads for my wrists.
(Those who don't remember, I had a surgery on my wrist of a gangelis(sp) cist so I lost like 80% of my strength in it because it took the doctors two years to figure it out).

But I'm okay now, for now.

Special post day, hope someone will recognize who this creme-white feather winged gargoyle is from The Council.

Oh, it's a secret. :D
Heather - [<-------- Clicky! Now!]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 06:21:49 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Mooncat - Ugh!! My question is... where is the father and when do we get to see HIM stoned to death for having a child out of wedlock... That is just unreal!!
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 05:24:34 PM
IP: 216.249.95.105

Hi. My name is Wermer Bramice.
My voice is my passport?
Verify me.
FIRE STORM!!!!!!!!!!
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 05:11:14 PM
IP: 66.72.183.84

Quick post:

Happy birthday Todd!!

Lynati - <As soon as I finish updating my Gargoyle clan reference pages,> Interesting. Recently, I just completed putting together a Guide to TGS Gargoyle Clans.

Spacebabie - <You are acting more like Greg Weisman every day!!!!> Yea, right. I speak in riddles naturally when I don't want to reveal information.

Imzadi - <Jerk. Like I want to look it up.> Typical response from a lazy man.

Lain - <plus theres the divine retribution whereby charlie (one of my cats) peed on her shoes RIGHT after i had talked to her about it.> Hmm. good mind-cat coordination.

Daniel J - <Best to just accept it as one of the mysteries of the universe.> No, I believe less and less in coincidences and more and more in a much bigger picture where small details matter.

Tribun - I fail to see what is wrong with history being immutable. The problem I have with history being able to be altered is it's too easy for that to be abused and too often, the complete consequences of history being changed are never fully explored and things are assumed to be almost the same except for the one big detail.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 04:47:32 PM
IP: 204.94.193.47

Gunjack: As soon as I finish updating my Gargoyle clan reference pages, and type up the histories for the remaining...then I have have to pay my bills and find the original letter. and your mailing address. So, I'd say...within two months, depending on my health...or whenever I feel like it.

Aaron: <MGC post> I know!!! Isn't it great?!? I'm going to have to get back to the filk project soon.
...btw, Post-mortem is up to a full five pages now.
mwaheheh.
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 03:40:56 PM
IP: 65.66.156.140

Heather>> ANOTHER Q: In the MANY character designs that people made up for the original TGS characters, how do you make room for the wings to be comfortable with the clothing? Ex:Sata, Ariana, Graeme, Delilah... I know Hayden practically made up the London clan by scratch but how does most of the clothing make it comfortable with the wings so the clothing isn't in the way by the original designs?

Hmmmm..... it depends upon the character creator, really. Dylan Blacquiere explained that his gargs modified their clothing with snaps and velcro to accommodate their feet (down pants legs) and slits in their shirts for the wings. My personal take is similiar because I studied a lot of zoology, biology and anatomy (because college counselor didn't notice what off-major classes I was taking) and I know that bat wings are flexible and fold up neatly enough to fit through (theoretically) a pair of slits in the back of a garment. The more difficult types like Lexington generally take a bit more effort to think out. Hope this helps....

Happy Birthday, Todd.... and how ironic, because I was thinking of you! I started a new book today, "Knight Life" by Peter David, which has King Arthur waking up in the modern world (can you say "Pendragon?") accompanied by Merlin who has been aging backwards and appears as a young boy with a grown-up vocabulary. (Hello, Emrys!) So far, it's been a very funny book with Merlin trying to explain computers to Arthur with lines like: "Of course, I had a hand in this. See right here -- I.B.M.: Invented By Merlin."
Spike
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 03:17:58 PM
IP: 65.71.253.7

*Waves at Mooncat* Hello Mooncat!

Yeah i heard about that, it was on the radio all day.

It's amazing it's just the woman getting stoned, it seems that the man has got off scott free (2000 years of humanity down the drain as well, tut, tut, tut.)
Silverbolt - [Silverbolt2012@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 02:10:42 PM
IP: 62.7.87.135

Today's link (click below) to make you think. Woman setenced to death by stoning, for having a child out of wedlock. Got to love that old time religion, eh? Sighs...

MC
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 12:28:44 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Classes started yesterday. Left my house at 4:15...only took about 35 minutes to get on to the school. And from there it was about an hour before I could park and get to class. Can we make it a rule for Freshman to take the bus or carpool during the first semester??? Jeez every year, that and plus the weather was crappy.

I haven't broken into my new sneakers yet so now I have bandaids on my heels. I had to use two more bandaids on my leg because Velvet accidentaly scratched me there. She made a haphazard jump down from the computer and slipped.

TIMEDANCER.....Not Really Spoilers*****************
Good set up for the fourth season. Leaves off from the third. Hope to see more of Payne. He is an over the top character like Sevarius. Can't wait to see how the rest of the season goes and I wonder how long til the Gate becomes active again.

NOT QUITE SPOILERS END**************************************

Happy Birthday Todd!!!!!
Coyote<<<Anyone old enough to remember He-Man giving an impromptu *science lesson* while spinning desert sand into glass to fight a bad guy?)>>>I do. I also remember how each episode ended with a moral lesson.

Josh<<<My parents don't do donuts.>>>Not even Krispie Kreme???<<<Give me math any day over those two.>>>:::Shudders::: Like I said I would have had the ADV fiction but it was filled before I was even allowed to register.<<<As opposed to the crazy sick monkeys who don't prefer torture, such as the ones that populate this CR. >>>I prefer torture, especially in fan fiction.<<<can't dance, so its best if I'm not bumping and grinding with anyone in public 8-) >>>Yeah but I bet you wish you were there so you could have watched us.<<<Yes. I lost the spoon.>>>See I don’t want to loose a perfectly good spoon.<<<Oh, right. Gotta find a roommate.>>>Go for a forway. For example you, Mooncat, me and someone else. That way when we get a 4 way room it would be like 40 bucks a person<<<Good call on the discipline. >>>She does that very well in RL and in her fics.<<<Went to Sushi for dinner. Mmmmm.>>>Lucky all I had was a Hot Pocket.

Gside<<<He does it in the gutter?>>>If he is in the gutter and needs a quick hair fix.<<<Still, Jersey isn't that far away.>>>Still why the hell would I want to go there?<<<Fresh is best>>>Depends on what he needs them for.<<<What do you think of the back door?>>>It leads me to the backyard?<<<and this fandom tends to attract references to Bill. >>>Clinton???

DPH<<<I'll give you a hint: "Requiem" from Timedancer. >>>You are acting more like Greg Weisman every day!!!!

Greg B<<<Really, ask anyone here ;)>>>I wouldn’t know. You were a gentleman at the Gathering

Lain<<<passwordy goodness :D>>>We have to have a password to post here now?<<<one of my cats) peed on her shoes RIGHT after I had talked to her about it.>>> Give that cat some shrimp flavored cat treats and lots of nuzzles.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:32:56 AM
IP: 65.57.81.54

Greetings all...

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone that's stopped by the new issue of Avalon Mists (over 300 visits so far)... it's great to see people still read the 'zine.

However I understand lately that people are going to the new server at gargoyles-fans.org, which isn't fully set up yet with the old archive and the new one for future issues. I would ask that everyone not go there for the time being, until we have everything in place. Not to worry... it's only temporary until I can get someone with better coding skills than my own to put everything into place.

For the time being, you can access the new issue at the following link: http://www.tenament.com/stephenrs/amists/index.html

As a side note, I've seen/heard litting in the way of feedback on the new issue. Good or bad, I'd like to hear just how the new Avalon Mists is perceived, and if I'm doing a good job with it.

To that end, I've set up a forum for the fans to leave their reviews/comments/suggestions on. You can do so by going to the following link:

http://pub14.ezboard.com/bavalonmistsforum

Any and all critiques/comments and such are appreciated and encouraged.

That's all from me... Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [ssobotka33616@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 09:43:03 AM
IP: 65.35.132.45

Couple of quickie replies since I'm way behind and it's only Tuesday...

Leo > I majored in Animal Science. In some people's cases that's what they do before trying to get into Vet School. In my case, I was interested in food production from ranching to processing. The school I went to has its own butcher shop and kill floor. Meat Science Class was part classroom and part lab experience. So we'd get lectures on process and anatomy and so forth in class then for labs we butchered and prepared for sale (not in the same week) pigs, cattle, and sheep. Poultry was handled during a different class. I also took Advanced Meat Science where we learned to cure hams and bacon and make various kinds of sausages.

Josh > I knew that Hotmail was a Microsoft subsidiary. And I dislike Microsoft because they use agressive business practices to shove an inferior suite of products down consumers' throats.

kathy
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 07:49:22 AM
IP: 66.32.80.161

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel> I KNOW that. But in some of the clothing it just wouldn't work. Like Graeme's vest...
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 06:27:51 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Anyone know anything about TV's? Okay, not just anything. My parents got their TV "guts" back from three weeks at the repair shop (and a tidy bill to boot). Unfortunately, HBO doesn't come in now. It comes in to every other TV in the house, and all the other cable channels come in fine on that TV. In fact, HBO came in fine when we had another TV hooked up to the same jack last night. Ideas? Is it the tuner?

Had lunch with my dad today, and I got to see what he's done with the place while I was gone. While I was in San Jose, my dad bought one of his competitors entirely and most of another one. So he now has a sales office in Portland, a manufacturing plant in Santa Fe springs, and double the warehouse space in LA. He's bringing in all these machines, re-wiring his plant so he has enough power for the new machines. And the shop is running 20 hours a day just trying to keep up with all the orders! Hopefully it stays that way all year...then I won't have to pay for grad school.

Went to Sushi for dinner. Mmmmm. And I picked up George Carlin's books at B&N.

Gside: <<how he was supposed to know his browser used quickime files (not media files, executable/library files>>: I'm sorry, I was under the impression that QT files are media files. And don't all major browsers support the QT plugin? <<He does it in the gutter?>>: Don't we all? <<That isn't as important as the sex>>: That's right. <>: Or any engineer for that matter. <<Or messing with your bios>>: Few people do that online. <<Heck with it. Imzadi, I'll get you tomorrow>>: You wish. <<Still got mine>>: Willing to sell? <<You can teach. And if you go far enough, I hear they pay professors quite a bit>>: Ah, English. A major that exists only to perpetuate itself. Like philosophy. <<besides, it's all your own fault, right brainer>>: preach it, brother!

Tribun: <<Any dates when the main series will start it's forth season?>>: Yeah, right. <<In the story they mourn over the smashes clan, but arn't even shocked that they killed innocent village people for that>>: Actually, Benedict doesn't tell them that. << Because I read it some time ago, I now hate it>>: That doesn't sound like a very good reason to me.

DPH: <<I'll give you a hint: "Requiem" from Timedancer>>: Jerk. Like I want to look it up.

Leo: <<2169>>: Thank you. Much appreciated. <<Thou shalt not bare wittnes to false universes where time isn't immutable>>: Too bad I'm enjoying the Beginning Anew Universe so much.

Mecord: <<The thought of it beginning in a mere week set my blood to boil>>: Sorry. I'm looking forward to it. <<stress, homework, sleepless nights, last minute deadlines, stupid professors, beurocratic BS, mindless "peers", bad attitudes, and a bed temper.>>: Some of that can be avoided by a little foresight on your part. <<I'm a freakin' English major for crying out loud>>: In that case, quit yer bitchin'. You don't know what stress is. You don't know what homework is. Or sleepless nights. Talk to engineering students sometime. They'll bitch-slap you. <<What does that get me? I have no bloody clue>>: Then why on earth is that your major? <<just when does Sata write those journals Harthoth has anyway?>>: More importantly, why does he have them? I suspect the answer your question is "later" and the answer to my question is "because she did, therefore she had to".

Heather: <<Worf on steriods>>: This was on that episode of star trek with the evolution disease. <<how do you make room for the wings to be comfortable with the clothing?>>: Cut holes in the back. Der.

Greg X: <>: Aren't you an english major?

Daniel Johnson: <<since I have insider information>>: Good. Don't spoil it for us. Otherwise I won't have an excuse to beat it out of some other member of the staff ;-) <>: I prefer a warm human body. <<What?>>: I didn't say anything about it. But I'm sure I will in the future. Monkey boy. <<I'm comfortable waiting.>>: Good plan. You don't want to lose your friend. <<that's the Josh we all know and love. All is right with the world>>: How can all be right if I'm the josh you know and love? <<You're welcome>>: Its always nice to know that if I ever need to be sapped out, I can come in here and request it. <<"Work" and "ethic"? What are these words you speak of?>>: Before this summer I would have said that. Now I know. And I'd still prefer to avoid both. <<Best to just accept it as one of the mysteries of the universe>>: Incidentally, none of us have ever seen you two in the same room together. Or me and SJ for that matter...

Lain: << passwordy goodness>>: Passwords are your friend! <<kinda like my arts degree. wow, we should get together and comisserate on our school woes sometime>>: or you could just change majors to something useful.

AOL is Satan on a stick
-Dale Rubin

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Encino, CA, US of A
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 02:01:26 AM
IP: 206.170.218.229

Imzadi> Benedic(k/t): Well, Benetick is the name of the guy from Much Ado, and this fandom tends to attract references to Bill.
<>: Still got mine. Down in the damp crawl space next to the Star Wars figures. I wonder who's growing moss.
<<Are they that important?>>: To right brainers, apparently. I prefer toys.
<<Isn't this redundant?>>: Well, Wilek appears to gbe the exception that proves the rule.

Mecord> <<'m a literary studies English major. What does that get me?>>: You can teach. And if you go far enough, I hear they pay professors quite a bit. And besides, it's all your own fault, right brainer.

Daniel Johnson> <>: We had a coupel of those, but they've since gone missing. Probably broken.
<>: I prefer cow because it's easier. Ad some people swear by young goat, especially for gloves.
<<Thank you my fellow Jerseyan>>: Not a problem. By the way, how'd you make out with the storm?

Lain> <<passwordy goodness>>: As I said before, Remember The Password.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, August 20, 2002 12:16:28 AM
IP: 68.38.240.227

josh>> <<Wasn't it "Benedict" though? Not "Benedick"?>> nope <<But is it wise to complain about her in a CR where
she actually posts?>> passwordy goodness :D

heather>> <> whos "we?" <<The eyes were too big for one thing>> yea yea, i knows. expect improvements later <<His physical self makes me think of Worf on steriods, Klingon armor, with wings and tail>> LOL!! <<Me got Qs to any art staff, is there any openings since the TGS staff has been quiet about it...>> dunno when the next recruitment drive is gonna be..

tribun>> <<Does the staff onlyn begin to publish the storys from a new season of one series, when all storys of this season are written, edited and all art for the season finished?>> HA! hahahahAHAHAHAHAH!!!! *coughhacksplutter* i mean.. ideally, yes.. but in practice??? *scampers off to draw madly* << Any dates when the main series will start it's forth season?>> um.. sometime after the one after timedancer?

ed>> <<A couple of notes about the site archives though, if you aren’t already aware of it… if you go to any of the archives from season 3 or 4, the archive title still read ‘season 1’ or ‘season 2’. Also, the season 2 archive for ‘Pendragon’ is cut short. Sorry if you're already aware of this>> yeah, its been like that for awhile now. ever since i started reading which was.. seems like a long time ago. anyways.. wierd, yes.

dph>> << Punishment #1 is caught her off internet access>> heh.. plus theres the divine retribution whereby charlie (one of my cats) peed on her shoes RIGHT after i had talked to her about it. funny funny cat :D

leo>> <<I'm amazed at the number of people who don't remember the events in "Requiem">> yeah, that was one of my faves from way back..

mecord>> <<BROOKLYN'S QUEST Episode 5: Venting>> hey would you mind posting a link to that each time you announce a new one? my brain has forgotten where it is since the first time you posted :P and it looked interesting :P:P <<I pay thousands of dollars every year to put myself through stress, homework, sleepless nights, last minute deadlines, stupid professors, beurocratic BS, mindless "peers", bad attitudes, and a bed temper. For what I ask you? A piece of paper that supposedly "assures" higher paying jobs? Maybe if I was a business major. I'm a freakin' English major for crying out loud. I'm not even Tech writing. That's where the money is. I'm a literary studies English major. What does that get me? I have no bloody clue>> i know i know!!! A BIG FAT NOTHING!!!! kinda like my arts degree. wow, we should get together and comisserate on our school woes sometime :P

daniel j>> <<It even happened to me once. Remember? >:)>> ha ha! and what a horrid experience THAT must have been ;)
lain
Monday, August 19, 2002 10:46:04 PM
IP: 65.92.89.128

It's good to see people commenting on a new story again. I don't feel right saying anything, though, since I have insider information. It will be an interesting season, however.
----
Niamhgold:
Thank'ee! It's certainly going to be interesting! :)
----
Josh:
<<<>: They're worth quite a bit now. I miss my transformer toys.>> When I was a kid, many ages ago, Star Wars toys were the big thing. I must have had just about all of them. They'd be worth a small fortune now...if they weren't all broken, burned, and buried. I do still have several Burger King glasses from all three movies. I wonder what they're worth.
<<As opposed to the crazy sick monkeys who don't prefer torture, such as the ones that populate this CR.>> I like the feeling of warm monkey leather against my skin.

What?

<<Right, that's what they say right before they dump you ;-)>> :P I am aware of that, believe it or not, and if it was anyone else I would have moved on. Since she is my best friend and I know her pretty well I'm comfortable waiting.
<<Woohoo! Post pictures!>> Ah, that's the Josh we all know and love. All is right with the world.
<<It did, don't worry.>> You're welcome.
<<Silly canadians. No work ethic.>> "Work" and "ethic"? What are these words you speak of?
----
Gside:
Thank you my fellow Jerseyan.
----
DPH:
<<Our lives keep running parallel to one another.>> Best to just accept it as one of the mysteries of the universe.
----
Mecord:
<<I'm a literary studies English major. What does that get me?>> I know the feeling. I majored in Anthropology. It has no bearing on what I'm doing now, but at least it was interesting.
----
'Night all.
Daniel Johnson - [daniel@daniel-johnson.org]
Ocean Grove, NJ, United States
Monday, August 19, 2002 10:28:40 PM
IP: 138.89.76.120

GB> Awww. Thankie. I'm just glad that we're actually starting back on Gargoyles again. Last season people talked about it for like a few posts then forgot about it completely except maybe some newbies. But me, lurky lurky.

Me got Qs to any art staff, is there any openings since the TGS staff has been quiet about it... I wanted Pendragon... Grrr

Is Icarus coming back? Is Delilah maybe going to see him again? Me want to know...

ANOTHER Q: In the MANY character designs that people made up for the original TGS characters, how do you make room for the wings to be comfortable with the clothing? Ex:
Sata, Ariana, Graeme, Delilah... I know Hayden practically made up the London clan by scratch but how does most of the clothing make it comfortable with the wings so the clothing isn't in the way by the original designs?
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Monday, August 19, 2002 10:11:59 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

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Anonymous
Monday, August 19, 2002 10:05:57 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

HEATHER> I don't think you were being rude at all, trust me, I know rude when I see it. I majored in the art of being an asshole. Really, ask anyone here ;)
Greg Bishansky
Monday, August 19, 2002 08:35:29 PM
IP: 216.179.2.196

Greg again> Sorry to act rude it is just that Artus is just such a... *thinks of the word* baka, for now, that I went into a hyper-speed rant.
I've read ALL of TGS, I know who artus is. I like the picture of him but the personality doesn't fit. His physical self makes me think of Worf on steriods, Klingon armor, with wings and tail.
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Monday, August 19, 2002 08:17:25 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Greg> I know who I'm talking about, it was just a typo that I had no time to correct. I meant to say "Goliath's first grandchild".
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Monday, August 19, 2002 08:12:28 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

HEATHER> Actually, Artus is Broadway and Angela's first hatched child. Not Goliath's. Goliath and Elisa never have biological children together.
Greg Bishansky
Monday, August 19, 2002 07:16:31 PM
IP: 216.179.2.196

The one thing that bugs me about this first ep of Timedancer is not Benedick, because we can tell his role in the series by his name, but ARTUS! He's a nit-wit! Yes, he's Goliath's first born and Angela and Broadway give him and Samson all the praise but leadership wise, I want to see the gargoyle who made him his second. I doubt Brooklyn but still, he pivs me off!

*bows and returns to watching THUNDERBIRDS on Techtv*
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Monday, August 19, 2002 06:57:02 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

I read the entire CR looking for things to respond to. But nothing really catches my intrest at the moment. Maybe it's because of school. I hate school. I really and truly hate it. The thought of it beginning in a mere week set my blood to boil. I don't want to go back and I can't understand why I pay so much money for so much misery. I hate work too, but at least they pay ME to go there. I pay thousands of dollars every year to put myself through stress, homework, sleepless nights, last minute deadlines, stupid professors, beurocratic BS, mindless "peers", bad attitudes, and a bed temper. For what I ask you? A piece of paper that supposedly "assures" higher paying jobs? Maybe if I was a business major. I'm a freakin' English major for crying out loud. I'm not even Tech writing. That's where the money is. I'm a literary studies English major. What does that get me? I have no bloody clue. If they actually had a creative writing track I could go there. But no, they suppress creativity and try to dictate how we are to think. I could transfer to another school, but that might be more trouble than it's worth. Change jobs, find a place to live that is affordable, and somehow not kill myself in the process just to pay more money to go through another town's version of Hell does not appeal to me. So I plod along in my meaningless major in my meaningless classes, hoping that somewhere in all this I will live long enough to see its end. Well, on that cheerful note here's a word from my sponsor… oh wait, I don't have a sponsor. Oh well, you'll just have to listen to a few words from me then. :)

****Shameless Plug****
I'll keep this brief. Brooklyn has been depressed and finds some bad guys to vent on. >;)

BROOKLYN'S QUEST
Episode 5: Venting

****End Shameless Plug****

****Timedancer Spoilers****
All in all, a good intro to the new TGS Season. I enjoyed Brooklyn's sour attitude towards Payne. And it was also good to see Harthoth again. He always brings in a lot of foreboding and suspense that maintains the Timedancer story line. But if this new trouble is aimed towards the kids. Well, we know they live through it, but that doesn't mean the going will be easy. And just when does Sata write those journals Harthoth has anyway?
****End Spoiler****

Mecord
Monday, August 19, 2002 05:01:33 PM
IP: 12.255.11.48

Hey, thought I would post.

Updated MGC. ^_^ Now it looks a little more 'nicer' than before. ^_^ 11 more days until the Gargoyles on DVD contest is over! :D Hurry now and draw soemthing while you still can!

Screencaptures _ARE_ permitted for this contest, so if you're more 'layout' oriented than artistic try giving it a go on this contest!
http://mgc.gargoyles-fans.org/current.php
Siryn - [<--Monthly Gargoyles Art Contest]
Monday, August 19, 2002 04:57:25 PM
IP: 129.21.145.6

Leo>I did read TimeDancer an decided, to try to forget it. Because I read it some time ago, I now hate it.
Tribun
Monday, August 19, 2002 02:05:42 PM
IP: 62.214.36.56

It's good to see "spoilers" again.

I'm amazed at the number of people who don't remember the events in "Requiem"

Josh.<<What year does this all take place in?>>2169, right after the events in "Return to Paradise pt. 2" and before the Winter Solstice Festival in "Requiem"

Tribun:> Thou shalt read "Time Dancer." Thou shalt like it. Thou shalt not bare wittnes to false universes where time isn't immutable.:P
Leo
Monday, August 19, 2002 01:54:16 PM
IP: 172.134.24.70

Ed - <if you go to any of the archives from
season 3 or 4, the archive title still read ‘season 1’ or ‘season 2’.> That problem is solved. <Also, the season 2 archive for ‘Pendragon’ is cut short.> That problem is being looked into. I've known about it for a while myself, but never got a round to fixing it after I had the access to fix it.

Tribun -
< 1.)Does the staff onlyn begin to publish the storys from a new season of one series, when all storys of this season are written, edited and all art for the season finished?> Not necessarily. Only when there is enough material for us to start publishing a season without stopping to wait for a story.

< 2.Any dates when the main series will start it's forth season? > Right now, breakdowns for that series are still going on.

< 4.)Will the 4th season of the main series be a bit longer than the 3rd one(that was even shorter than the 1st one)? > Right now, it is currently longer than season 3.

<In the story they mourn over the smashes clan, but arn't even shocked that they killed innocent village people for
that. They completly ignored it! And they allowed a murderer (No other way to say this, because this was cold blooded murder)to join thier clan!> Obviously, you haven't read "Requiem" from Timedancer.

Imzadi - <What year does this all take place in?> I'll give you a hint: "Requiem" from Timedancer. <So will you be doing some crazy silly announcement.> Let's just say I'm more excited about next weeks story, which might trigger a parade and fireworks showing up in the CR.

Lain - <now, this wouldnt be so bad, except for the part where i have repeatedly told her to never EVER EVER under ANY circumstances give out my phone number to strange guys shes been talking to on the computer.> Punishment #1 is caught her off internet access.

Daniel J - <Sorry I've been so non-present. I was quite busy for a while, and then I simply fell out of the habit of posting. Or spending much time online at all.> Hmm. Damn it. Our lives keep running parallel to one another.

DPH
AR, USA
Monday, August 19, 2002 12:58:39 PM
IP: 204.94.193.70

*** ‘Timedancer’ Comments***

I really enjoyed “Safe Harbour”. The first scene was very moving and strong, and despite dealing with so many emotions and issues - parenthood, guilt, forgiveness, honour, cultural barriers etc. - they were all woven so skilfully into the plot to make it seem effortless. The art was absolutely gorgeous too. It was well worth the wait.

***End***

A couple of notes about the site archives though, if you aren’t already aware of it… if you go to any of the archives from season 3 or 4, the archive title still read ‘season 1’ or ‘season 2’. Also, the season 2 archive for ‘Pendragon’ is cut short. Sorry if you're already aware of this.
Ed - [ed@steelclaw.org]
London, England
Monday, August 19, 2002 10:14:13 AM
IP: 213.187.48.92

Questions to the staff:
1.)Does the staff onlyn begin to publish the storys from a new season of one series, when all storys of this season are written, edited and all art for the season finished?

2.)Well ok, the "TimeDancer"-Series (I don't like it anyway ,so don't ask...) has now started the 4th season. Any dates when the main series will start it's forth season?

3.)When the storys for one series season are all finished, is then then more manpower for the others series available (help for the still working teams from the team whose storys are already finshed), or does the staff for one series relly only work on "thier" series?

4.)Will the 4th season of the main series be a bit longer than the 3rd one(that was even shorter than the 1st one)?

The Eerie Pyramid>The first time I watched "Future Tense" and saw the Eerie Pyramid, I already hated that really that ugly looking stucture. And it's presence in "TimeDancer" don't made my opinion better. I better not want know how Alaxander got the idea to build that thing (And therefore buy the whole Manhattan). I really hope, something nasty will happen to this structure... :D

The new story>Well, I read it. I got the light impression, that the gargs of the future really think, they are something better than humans. I don't think the shooting guard was crazy. I think it's the real thinking of many people about the gargs, which is only hidden behind the farcade of political correctness. Seems that they don't have many friends and were only half-hearted accepted. And the fact that they live at the top of the city, protected by extra laws and in affluence does't help either. I seem, for many they are not protectors but a small wealthe group of arrogant people who think they were something better. And to make it worse, the clan doesn't really do anything against this. It's only a matter of time....and then there will be really nothig to laugh for them.......
By the way. In the story they mourn over the smashes clan, but arn't even shocked that they killed innocent village people for that. They completly ignored it! And they allowed a murderer(No other way to say this, because this was cold blooded murder)to join thier clan! A way too, to make themselves unpopular.......

Well, let's wait for the main series to continue. I'm more a fan of the present time and think that a look to far into the future destorys the garg-feeling......

-Tribun
Tribun - [joachim_henkel@gmx.net]
Luebeck, SH, Germany
Monday, August 19, 2002 09:50:24 AM
IP: 62.214.36.56

*SPOILERS*
Not going to say much for this episode because it is the first one. Liked the story itself, the art... I thought we don't use edits anymore. And the other picture... I've been taking too many art classes so I can name a lot of stuff... The eyes were too big for one thing...
Ishimura? Kyoto? Not a bad idea for gargoyle names. :D
*END SPOILERS*
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Monday, August 19, 2002 06:57:53 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

COYOTE - Re: He-Man : Isn't it Cool??? ^_^

WILEK - Actually, the voice on Skeletor is surprisingly very close to what the original Filmation Skeletor was like. I think you might be jaded from the performance Frank Langella gave in the Live Action movie version of MOTU.

What makes me giggle is the fact that Man-At-Arms is voiced by the same actor that did Optimus Primal in "Transformers: Beast Warks", and Mer-Man is given voice by the actor who did Rat-Trap.

As a sort of warning note for Christine... they brought Orko back. But from what it looks like, they didn't give Cringer a voice.

Maintain and Check Six.
Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [ssobotka33616@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Monday, August 19, 2002 06:19:54 AM
IP: 65.35.132.45

*peeks in* A new story....... right after I come back from vacation. Oh joy.
And yes, the mirror of the TGS Archive now holds the story as well :)
*off to read "Safe Harbour"*
Guandalug la'Fay - [Guandalug@gmx.de]
Monday, August 19, 2002 02:37:38 AM
IP: 129.217.143.253

Imzadi> <<He wanted to know how he was supposed to know the media was quicktime instead of WMP or RM.>>: I still think he's asking how he was supposed to know his browser used quickime files (not media files, executable/library files).
<<Are the individually wrapped or packaged in a group?>>: Individually wrapped, he said.
<<No>>: Shame.
<<No accounting for taste>>: Ayup. Which is apparently one of Wilek's numerous complaints.

Spacebabie> <<Oh yes he prefers torture that crazy sick monkey>>: I like to be more balanced myself.
<<He does when he is not in the panels>>: He does it in the gutter?
<<Um were talking about the Hotel not the state>>: Still, Jersey isn't that far away.
<<Feed so what? Feed so much?>>: Yeah, yeah, I missed the re.
<<In a jar or frozen?>>: Fresh is best.
<<You mean puts UP as in puts up with your bs>>: That isn't as important as the sex.
<<Does this mean I�m a gay man trapped in a woman�s body?>>: Possibly. What do you think of the back door?

Niamhgold> <>: Woohoo.
<<Squall managed to avoid some of the anti-gravitational hair>>: I blame it on the attempt at realism. I like the Amano style of the classes. At least we got the Magic Eight Squall out of it.

Daniel Johnson> <<"Fead"? A Freudian slip?>>: I was probably hungry. A good probablility with me anytime.
Congratulations on the relationship though.

Lain> <<how bout chatting?>>: Or messing with your bios?

Niamhgold> <<Tahoe pics, click my name for 'em>>: You go and have a pic named mounds, and now I'm all disappointed.

Heck with it. Imzadi, I'll get you tomorrow.

And the mp3. Linus and Lucy by the Vince Guaraldi Trio. Oh, and Fire Storm, tell me when you get stuff off my eden account. There's a couple more song/video pairs I'd like to do.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, August 19, 2002 01:10:47 AM
IP: 68.38.240.227

Mmmm...went for a nice long massage today. That felt good.

I also got my first chance to work on a model in 8 months. Started my B-1B, a 3-foot-long jet. This should be finished sometime after Ragnarok. The elevator fins alone are larger than the wings of most other models I've built.

***SPOILERS***

Comments on the new episode. Very good. Does a nice job of reminding us where season 3 left off, since it was forever ago. I would advise the other writers to also spend time in each story reminding us about relevant threads, the whole Harthoth-Apep thing, etc. Wasn't it "Benedict" though? Not "Benedick"? Oh well, typo didn't change the story. It was nice seeing the future clan and really meeting benedict and not Demona's warped rendition of him.

The artwork was amazing. And why does that Villacrest name sound familiar? Has that name been used before? What year does this all take place in?

Great job.

**END SPOILERS***

DPH: <<You'll know around midnight CR time>>: So will you be doing some crazy silly announcement or just "new story is up". <<Don't you trust me to look at for our best interests>>: Would you trust anyone in this CR to do that? <<After mdnight, when the day changes, my internet grew extremely unstable>>: That could only matter if your ISP is also in your time zone. <<If I had a better version to install>>: Are you one of those people that thinks stealing software you'd never pay for is wrong?

Jan: <<she turned you down, huh?>>: Yuk yuk. <<Now that’s a combination that I would definitely stay away from>>: Well you should. Its a heart attack on a plate. I, on the other hand, am quite immune to such foods. <>: You couldn't pay me enough to be in Italy in August. <<Michael watched the new Transformers and was not impressed at all>>: Good for him; it sucked. <>: They're worth quite a bit now. I miss my transformer toys. <<There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness.">>: Well, building plastic models doesn't really make sense as a mental illness. Though the anal retentiveness required could be. But then, anal retentive is not the hobby 8-)

Spacebabie: <<Nothing like waking up after getting enough hours of sleep to find out your mother went to Dunkin Donuts>>: I wouldn't know. My parents don't do donuts. <<ADV poetry and non fiction writing>>: YUCK. Give me math any day over those two. <<The soundtrack for the Buffy musical will come out>>: And hundreds of people totally devoid of musical taste will buy it. <<he prefers torture that crazy sick monkey>>: As opposed to the crazy sick monkeys who don't prefer torture, such as the ones that populate this CR. <>: Okay, I hate you too. Then again, I can't dance, so its best if I'm not bumping and grinding with anyone in public 8-) <<That’s why you hang with them>>: Yup. <<Have you ever taken a spoon to ice cream that is frozen rock solid>>: Yes. I lost the spoon. <<So now you deserve the chocolate Eliza Dushku>>: Sweet! When do I get it? <<That is where we are staying next year>>: Oh, right. Gotta find a roommate. <<a lot of people enjoy the aroma of fresh baked bread>>>: I'm one of them. But just because I smell like bread doesn't mean I smell like freshly baked bread. <<What did you brain fizz out?>>: No, it just wasn't necessary to say it. <<You mean puts UP as in puts up with your bs>>: No, that's not what I mean at all. I mean puts out. <<Does this mean I’m a gay man trapped in a woman’s body?>>: No. <<Just blame the morons who don’t know how to vote>>: Okay, I blame florida. Well, not really.

phire_kat: <<Why are guys such jeckfaces?>>: Its in the Y chromosome. <<Why can't they be decent human beings??>>: Because we don't care. <>: Then you're foolish. <<stop talking to me just cos I won't flash my tits on the webcam!>>: Well then obviously you should flash them 8-)

Heather: <<it's the quickest way for me to move down to San Antonio>>: You know, despite what you may think, its not actually important to get married as soon as possible right out of high school. It'd actually be MUCH smarter to get a real degree. <<Actually, he did let himself be own a couple of posts before the CR got wiped>>: I know, and I read that. But I had typed responses to you earlier and didn't really feel like editing them.

Niamhgold: <<three hours up by the lake>>: Sweet. <<this could be because I'm back on a PC after several weeks of...Mac>>: Oh come on, it couldn't have been that bad. <<It's been so long since I've dealt with non-art persons>>: Yeah, like...2 days. <<I'm even thinking about turning it into a Flash CD>>: Despite what artists think, flash is unnecessary and useless. <<Soda's for when I eat out>>: Do you use the bubbles to mask the taste? ;-) <<is their a...gasp...costume contest? I have several things I could go as>>: Zim! <<My dad spends like a demon, and somehow without a credit card>>: I would like to be him. <<cannot...resist...price of...Prismacolor...markers>>: Are they that important? <<One time my wife went on a business trip for a weekend and I wound my watch enough for three decades!>>: HAHAHA. <<Any luck acquiring, oh, say, a Dell flatscreen?>>: I'm trying. But dad says that if he buys a cinema display he has to take the dell monitor into work because it belongs to the business. Bah. <<he's always got LA, and Spacebabie in Florida>>: LA is closer. <<Anything tastes good with steaksauce. Well, maybe not th--no, it does too>>: And do you know this from personal experience? <<Tahoe pics>>: Thank you for not e-mailing them to me 8-)

Daniel Johnson: <<One day we shall rule>>: Not likely. <<I'm the only one she feels truly happy with, I'm everything she could wish for in a guy, and she can't imagine being in a relationship with anyone else>>: Right, that's what they say right before they dump you ;-) <<short and revealing dress>>: Woohoo! Post pictures! <<tempted to just ask her what she wants me to do>>: No! You can't do that! Women expect you to be psychic! ;-) Anyway, there are two schools of thought here. One is to really wait for her to warm up to whatever she's ready for. The other school argues that if you don't show any initiative then she'll get bored and move on to the next guy. Either could be right, it depends on the girl. <<Besides, it'll probably make Josh gag>>: It did, don't worry.

Lain: I feel your pain. Having an inconsiderate slob for a roommate sucks. But is it wise to complain about her in a CR where she actually posts? <<aka horny guys>>: Isn't this redundant? <<all of the people in this CR who have my number i have known for somewhere around a year>>: Liar. I didn't when I had your #. <<um.. how bout chatting?>>: Silly canadians. No work ethic.

Mooncat: Good call on the discipline.

Christine: <<Will that do?>>: Explosions = good.

In all of history, there have only been a few really good scams...the Loch Ness Monster, Canada...
-Al Bundy, Married with Children

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Encino, CA, US of A
Monday, August 19, 2002 01:06:44 AM
IP: 206.170.218.101

Hey everyone! Thought I'd peek in to say hi and say how glad I am to see a new story up. I've had very little free time lately, school and working and stuff, and I'm getting ready to move down to the apartment for this year. I really miss the room, and I'll try to drop in again once discussions pop up over the new stories. Anyway, its late and I have to get up early tomorrow to work, so hi to everyone I haven't talked to in awhile, and I hope everything is going well with you all!

~Siofra
Siofra
A2, MI
Monday, August 19, 2002 12:57:08 AM
IP: 204.39.234.24

Sorry it took so long to make the announcement. I was looking for the dignifying way of doing so.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, August 19, 2002 12:11:39 AM
IP: 204.94.193.27

Now premiering . . Timedancer Season 4.

Safe Harbor
Written by Sigma and Jennifer "Nabiki" Pagán
Story concept by Alan Coleman Waltrip
Original Artwork by Lain Iwakura

Visit http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/ce.html to go to the link.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, August 19, 2002 12:07:46 AM
IP: 204.94.193.27

YES!!!!! Masters of the Universe WILL BE A SERIES!!!!
Coyote the Bando
Sunday, August 18, 2002 11:45:55 PM
IP: 216.234.100.15

Coyote> I saw the commercials for it on CN. Looks rather neat, save for one small aspect--Skeletor's voice. Dear GODS is it geeky and lame. Would it have killed them to hunt down Robert Hirschboeck? I imagine he'd like the work ever since Virgin/Trilobite disappeared up its own arse. Or hey, Rene Auberjonois; he can be suitably creepy and evil...
Wilek
Sunday, August 18, 2002 11:22:05 PM
IP: 128.241.245.34

Masters of the Universe: Got to see most of this on Friday afternoon. Considering that a tape full of nothing but Filmation's version was the first thing my family recorded when we first got a VCR (a Betamax. Now THAT should age me!!!!), I was expecting a little more than the original. And fortunately enough, it delivered.

I was happy that it was a lot less cutesey and PC and "Oh, let's teach the little kiddies a lesson with their ass-kicking dosage" than the original was. (Anyone old enough to remember He-Man giving an impromptu *science lesson* while spinning desert sand into glass to fight a bad guy?) I like the fact that the action content has been amped up considerably, not to mention the heroes are (OMIGAWD!!) fighting dirty ... Mekanek taking out Triclops by headbutting him from fifty yards away comes to mind. :) Ravyn also checked it out, and really liked the action as well, in particular she really liked this version of Teela. (as did I ... someone's been studying the Hong Kong cinema, in particular Zhang Ziyi (sp?))

The only thing I really want more than anything is for this to *not* be a one-time shot. I WANT A SERIES!!!!!!!!
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:55:45 PM
IP: 216.234.100.15

I think I'll stay up late to see when Timedancer season 4 premieres. ;-)

T-minus 1 hour and 14 minutes
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:46:47 PM
IP: 204.94.193.27

Daniel Johnson: Congratulations! ::hugs::

Tahoe pics, click my name for 'em. Not too large. Not many, that's it.

Adios
Niamhgold
Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:29:07 PM
IP: 209.165.118.157

Heather:
Thanks for the kind words. We'll see what happens.
----
lain:
ROTFL! I wouldn't want you to lose anymore teeth, so I'll have to keep the sugar content down from now on. Besides, it'll probably make Josh gag. ;)

Mooncat's advice is dead-on about your friend. She's being rude AND dangerous. You don't want some Internet wackos you've never met calling you out of the blue. It even happened to me once. Remember? >:)

Daniel Johnson - [daniel@daniel-johnson.org]
Ocean Grove, NJ, United States
Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:15:14 PM
IP: 138.89.79.143

Josh > well, I chose not to blow up the helicopter because I needed two of the occupants to survive ... and I _am_ going to blow up an entire building. Will that do? ; )

Jaden > it's been hot for here, though we are wimps in this part of the world and start whining whenever it climbs past 85. It's in the hundred-and-teens where I used to live, so I really shouldn't gripe too much ; )

Jan > thanks! It was a real thrill. The problem is that this being my first-ever short story sale, it makes for a mighty hard act to follow!

He-Man > I watched it on Friday with Becca. We both enjoyed it, me in a goofy-nostalgic sort of way because I used to watch it with my kid brother (the one who now has a wife, a house, four kids, etc.). Evil-lyn is a sinister babe, but the rest of the forces of darkness are nothing special.

Stephen > you told me no Orko! Augh! ::twitch:: Oh, well, wishful thinking. ; )

Was a bad girl last night and abandoned my book in favor of a Crossover Man Was Not Meant To Know. Iron Chef Pokemon Battle. When the inspiration (sick-puppy inspiration though it may be) takes hold, what else is there to do?

Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:05:40 PM
IP: 65.239.13.129

uhhhh.. not that im procrastinating more..

mooncat>> <<Go do your essay. Now.>> do i HAAAAVE to???
<<*stern look*>> yikes!
<<Don't surf until it's done>> um.. how bout chatting? ;)

*slinks away* caught red handed... :P
lain
Sunday, August 18, 2002 09:55:00 PM
IP: 65.92.89.102

Lain - don't get mad, get strict. Cut off her computer priviledge. Yes, using someone's comp to go online and play is a priviledge and not a right. You gave specific rules, and she broke them. Punishment should fit the crime. No more puter for the phire. Couple weeks, if it doesn't sink in that there's consequences for that kind of behavior, make the cut off complete.

Get your phone number changed. No telling who all has it now. It's a hassle, but it might save you grief later on.

Go do your essay. Now.

*stern look*

Don't surf until it's done. Make it a condition for yourself.

Kisses to the kitties.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Sunday, August 18, 2002 09:41:30 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

hi.

im mad.

why? you ask? ah, well, i was just getting back to my computer to be writing my essay (phire_kat, the person staying with me till she gets enough money for a place of her own) had been on my computer, chatting to a bunch of people (aka horny guys, most likely between the ages of 13 and 79).. and after physically turfing me off *my own* computer (on which i was writing an essay which is already overdue.. by about 2 weeks).. which is fine, cos i needed a break for dinner.. so off she gets from the computer, and the phone rings.. and its this guy she was instant messaging wanting to talk to her.

now, this wouldnt be so bad, except for the part where i have repeatedly told her to never EVER EVER under ANY circumstances give out my phone number to strange guys shes been talking to on the computer. why? because its **MY PHONE NUMBER!** hello? privacy? if she gives out my number to some innocent-seeming guy who turns out to be a whacko, she won't be the one dealing with the consequences! it will be ME. cos this is MY house, and MY phone bill, in MY name!

naturally, i dont mind her giving out my number to her family, and friends she's actually MET IN PERSON etc.. but not to potential whackos on the internet. all of the people in this CR who have my number i have known for somewhere around a year.. not somewhere around a week :P. and i would certainly NOT consider handing out someone ELSES phone number to ANYONE (let alone people on the net) without, you know, asking that persons permission. ESPECIALLY if they had asked me NOT to! :P this sort of thing gets me to wondering how many OTHER strangers shes given out MY number to when im not home..

if its THAT important to talk to this guy she really really likes, dont you think she could be considerate enough to wait till she gets her OWN phone? oh.. oh wait.. shell have to pay off that 1,000$ odd phone bill from talking to that australian bastard who screwed her over first, wont she?

gah :P

however, daniel js post, while it made some of my teeth fall out from the sweet cutsiness, makes me feel slightly less like going on a very large rampage and poking out phire_kats eyeballs.. with pointy sticks.. possibly with rusty nails on them.. *snarls*

congrats :D

lain "does not play well with others" iwakura
Sunday, August 18, 2002 08:43:08 PM
IP: 65.92.89.102

Grr, forgot my pic and stuff but still, go for it! It helps in the long run, Daniel!
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Sunday, August 18, 2002 07:45:55 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Daniel Johnson> Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. I just got say, go for it. It sounds like you two are great together. I know how it is to be reserved about being in a relationship. In a different sense, on the internet... But 3 1/2 years later. Here I am with Robby, engaged and in two more years, married. It seems like you and this girl trust each other for to try to make this work with slowly being iwth each other in a bf/gf way.

Sorry for my rant. :D
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Sunday, August 18, 2002 07:44:53 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Gside:
<<We had fead so. But have you returned, or is this just a visit?>> Ah, only time will tell. "Fead"? A Freudian slip? :)
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Josh:
<<Always looking for more mac users.>> One day we shall rule. Bwahahahaha!!! <cough> sorry.
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Jan:
<> Aww, now I'm getting the warm fuzzies.
<<It sure is quiet here.>> After the years of taking care of my mother and now being alone in this big, old house, I know the feeling. I'd probably go nuts without the dog around, even though he's shedding furiously!
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Sorry I've been so non-present. I was quite busy for a while, and then I simply fell out of the habit of posting. Or spending much time online at all.

The biggest distraction has been this whole relationship thing. Some of you may remember me talking about my new-found relationship with my best friend Sammi. I'm like a fish out of water here and just trying to muddle along. Fortunately, I'm not the only one. ;) I think she's been a bit afraid of getting involved with someone again, considering that her previous relationships have not gone well. She has a habit of being attracted to guys who end up being dominating...just like her father, not coincidentally. The important thing is that she realizes this now and wants to break the cycle of destructive relationships. She started going to AlAnon again to help work though her issues (her last boyfriend had been an alcoholic). So, I've just been concentrating on being a good friend and giving her space to figure things out. I did tell her that I loved her--I had to or I was going to explode. She said that she had to work out these issues first before she could get into a serious relationship, but she did have some positive comments:
since her boyfriend's death, she's tried dating a few different guys and I'm the only one she feels truly happy with,
I'm everything she could wish for in a guy, and
she can't imagine being in a relationship with anyone else.

OK. Wow. Talk about an ego boost. I've always suffered from poor self-esteem, but that's been changing recently. :) Then this past Thursday we had a date. And she referred to it as a date several times. First thing that got my attention was that when I picked her up, she was wearing a dress. A very short and revealing dress. We went to dinner and then had ice cream, talking about all kinds of things, laughing, just having fun. When I finally took her home, she gave me a hug goodbye. She started doing this a few months ago; a quick hug before leaving. But this time she held on to me for several seconds longer than usual. Just long enough to be obviously different. I got really nervous and didn't know if I should do anything else, and by the time my brain started working again, she had left.

When I told her that I loved her, I said that I felt happy, confused, afraid, and every other emotion all at once. She said "yeah, that sounds like love all right!" As confusing as it is, I don't want to stop even though it would be a LOT simpler. I guess I'll just see what happens. It seems as though it's pretty likely that she has more than a casual interest in me. :) I just don't know what I should do now. I'm tempted to just ask her what she wants me to do.

Sorry for the rambling, but it does relieve tension to talk about it and you got nominated. :P I certainly won't turn down any advice either. ;)
Daniel Johnson - [daniel@daniel-johnson.org]
Ocean Grove, NJ, United States
Sunday, August 18, 2002 04:10:39 PM
IP: 138.89.79.143

** Niamhgold enters **

Ooh, good news! Though we can't spend as long of a time as previously thought up in Tahoe, my aunt put off the server stuff she needs to do at work until five. So, we get about three hours up by the lake, and at least can hit lunch. yay!

Hmm, maybe I'm getting back to the posting thing. Or, this could be because I'm back on a PC after several weeks of...Mac. And how could I complain? A 19-inch flatscreen Dell at my disposal, attached to a 21-inch CRT for image color-checking, and 120 GB of space to fool around with in 30 hours! Wheeeee.

Last night we had a family cookout, half in my honor and half in honor of my cousin Danny's birthday. Cake, chicken...mmm, good. Nobody does art in this side of my family, so they all made me go through my portfolio and CD of work for several hours. It's been so long since I've dealt with non-art persons that I forgot not everyone knows what I'm talking about when I discuss 3D rendering and Photoshop coloring. Handed out business cards to a contractor from Burbank, a pharmaceuticals guy from Reno, and my lawyer step-cousin from NY.

I finally got a book I've been dying to read--"The Straw Men," well-endorsed by Stephen King and rightfully so--and I can also start working on my book of bestiary. I think I want that to be my senior thesis project. That way, I can say I'm "surveying" the art of many cultures by drawing and writing overviews of beasts from myth and legend. I'm even thinking about turning it into a Flash CD, set up somewhat like pantheon.org.

Whatever.

Heather: <Well Vanilla coke has more calories than Pepsi so I'm not the five million people that like to drink it. Too much like creme soda.> Yeah, I agree on the new Vanilla Coke. But I'm a big fan of Lemon coke and cherry coke, and even diet coke since it's sweet (though one's enough for several days, silly fake sugar). My preference? Coffee, tea, and water. Soda's for when I eat out ;)

Aaron: <Amen!> Yeah, well, the only religion my mother has practiced steadily in the past years is her worship of the red can. <Does it have any weird side-effects?> Eh, like any drug--could cause death ;) My head's still spinning from a Claritin 12-hour I took two days ago. <But you get to see all the really sw33t garg pr0n the artists are drawing, plus MA fic panels, contests, and maybe even a small dealer's room> Whoo! I want in on drawing the garg porn! And is their a...gasp...costume contest? I have several things I could go as... ;)

Gside: I blame my mom. My dad spends like a demon, and somehow without a credit card. Possibly. Who knows. <But can you get chicke waffles? Or waffle shaped chicken> Cluck cluck. <The gravity defying hair style sported by many RPG heroes, including Cloud, Crono, and Karn> Sephiroth! ;) Squall managed to avoid some of the anti-gravitational hair, but Seymour...well, that could just be the plant in him.

Wilek: <Gaze deep into the stinking abyss of my individually wrapped slices!> Just a warning: I only do red meat on special occasions ;)

Imzadi: <Gee, can't imagine why they'd say that> Could be the fact that I've somehow managed to get myself trapped on a ranch. <"I'm telling my mommy on you!"> Hehe. And I told her to remind them that I'm the gimp, too. Anyone up for a guilt trip? ;) <Budgeting is futile. Your cash will be assimilated by retail> Yes...cannot...resist...price of...Prismacolor...markers....... <Hmmm...> Well, I guess "I want now!" is more of a verbal attachment. <And few things beat getting laid *and* saving time!> As said in Dennis Miller's Millenium Special, "One time my wife went on a business trip for a weekend and I wound my watch enough for three decades!" <HAHAHAHA. I think they probably already do...on each other.> A veritable amusement park! <They drove to LA for the *night* to see something at the LA apple store. Freaks> That's why you love them. And I have the power of Eternal Klutziness^TM! <...before telling me that he spent enough on his current Dell to buy a mac that would make ANYONE drool.> Any luck acquiring, oh, say, a Dell flatscreen?

Jan: <Sorry about your Tahoe plans… bummer.> No longer so bad now! Thanks for the concern, though :) <I haven’t been on a “vacation” in a couple of years – I’m itchn’ to go somewhere, but haven’t decided yet on where to go. I live in the middle of “vacation land” but I don’t know which place to go yet. I’m considering a camping trip to Arkansas next month> Try New England, it's nice (this time of year). And Maine is actually called Vacationland. I'm just relishing this summer because I really think it's the last time I can vacay for a while. As a "starving artist," it's going to be cardboard-box living for a little while out of college ;) <It’s Dr. Pepper or die! ;)> Fair enough. The only soda I've completely despised is root beer and creme soda...they're weird ;) <she turned you down, huh?> Eh but he's always got LA, and Spacebabie in Florida ;)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY GREG!

Adios, all!

GB: <Firestorm will find out where she works, visit her at work and bring the A1 steak sauce> Anything tastes good with steaksauce. Well, maybe not th--no, it does too.

Niamhgold
Sunday, August 18, 2002 01:57:44 PM
IP: 209.165.119.227

Heyo all *^_^*

Home today, to relax and gell. Did so much yesterday I ended up with a case of sunstroke. Scared me. Didn't know what the feverish, thirsty, with tight achy skin symptoms were exactly, but it utterly sucked. Ended up taking lots of aspirin, lots of water, and made a vow not to push/physically exert myself for an entire day. I think I got a mild case of sunstroke Thursday, after yard work, sort of fuzzed through Friday because I was up till 6am finishing up an art project Thurs nite, then huge lot of getting things done on Saturday pushed me past a danger zone I didn't realize I had.

Suffice to say, it was miserable enough I called my closest friends so they could check on me the day after to make sure I was okay. I love having my house to myself, but when you are sick and think you might get worse, there's something scarey about being "home alone" for long stretches of time. Especially as Sunday is a day I usually don't receive company.

I never had to worry about something like this before. Until just recently my friends would be over on almost a constant basis. But once I got into writing and drawing Garg fan stuff, it began to eat up enough time I just dropped a lot of my outside socializing, and limited my 'go out and have fun' activities to just Fri/Sat, and blow people off for the rest of the week.

I am so missing my best friend who moved to VA. Before, if I got sick I knew I could absolutely depend on her to come by and make sure I was okay, and take what ever steps necessary if things got bad. I fell and badly sprained an ankle once, and she had me tucked in a car and at the clinic faster than I could blink. Made me get x-rays and got me a cookie and an ice pack. She's so practical. I tend to dither about going to a doctor for, until I'm in horrible pain or sick for weeks on end. I could always trust my friend to look, judge how bad something was, and drag me to a doctor if something needed treating.

Best friends who are scary competent are real treasures. I hate the fact that mine is now so far away.

My other best (guy) friend is my ex-boyfriend, who would probably do as much for me, but his response time is greatly hampered by his new wife and baby. She doesn't speak English, and is very afraid if he isn't constantly with her when he is not at work. O_o sigh... Completely understandable, but still...

Ooo! But in 'good news' I've finished up art and writing projects =) My yards look spiffy and fresh cut, and green, green, green! My family obligations are taken care of until at least Thursday (hope and pray and virtually killing lambkins in offering to make it so..)and I have almost all the fixings for nice curry. I made a lot of lovely rice yesterday, so all I need to do now is get some potatos. I found out I was out yesterday, which completely floors me. Where did my potatoes go? I know I had some, and I was saving them for curry. sigh... just as well I was to sick to eat anything but plain rice last night. I guess I will run to the grocery in a little bit.

Curry, curry, curry!!! Golden, spicy, yummy curry! Potatoes and baby carrots, onions and meat *^_^* -- I think I will invite someone over to eat with me tonight...

*does the gentle, non-vigorous version of the happy kitty dance*

Decided to read a little more of Sartre's "Being and Nothingness" this morning. *blinks* Sighs... I am not really a fan of existentialism, but I'm doing it to get a better hold of Fox's characterization. Machiavelli is a lot easier to get through, but Xanatos is a lot easier to fathom. Fox has all these esoteric layers though. She's a fascinating character, but sometimes I wish her reading habits weren't so... well... Sartre-ish.

okay, better go buy some potatoes and see who wants to come over for dinner. maybe have them bring a movie...

*gentle kitty dances continue*

>^,,^<

Mooncat
Sunday, August 18, 2002 01:11:25 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

*kicks typo in post before this* own = Known

Sorry all, I can't help it.
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Sunday, August 18, 2002 11:15:57 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Jan> " ohmy… after going thru the delivery with Anna and Zach – there’s no way in creation would I do that as a profession! My admiration goes out to you." - Well, for one, it's the quickest way for me to move down to San Antonio, the program is only 15 months long so right after I finished high school in May, in July, I start school again. So I'll graduate in October of 2004.

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel> "Yes, I'll gladly stop picking on him...oh right, I can't, because I don't know his NAME. Schmuck. <>: You're right, I haven't, mostly because I'm not desperate/brain dead. " - Actually, he did let himself be own a couple of posts before the CR got wiped. So Schmuck you. :P

Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Sunday, August 18, 2002 11:14:33 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Why are guys such jeckfaces? Why can't they be decent human beings?? I had a guy that I would have glady dropped my hole stinkin life for then he ups and tells me he needs to be alone but that he still loves me and wants to be with me....and I haven't heard from him since...thenI get the @$$holes that stop talking to me just cos I won't flash my tits on the webcam!!! What the hell is up with that?!?! Anyway I'm needing to bitch if you haven't noticed...ack Lains cats at nut ballz of fluff!!!
phire_kat
Sunday, August 18, 2002 11:05:29 AM
IP: 65.92.91.101

Nothing like waking up after getting enough hours of sleep to find out your mother went to Dunkin Donuts.

Hmmm donuts oooh and coolattas in the fridge. I stuck one in the freezer, I like mine extra frosty.

Happy Birthday Greg B.

Tomorrow I start classes again. ADV poetry and non fiction writing. Having the nofiction and fiction under my belt will give me the option of either ADV fiction or ADV nonfiction next semester. I need ones of those to graduate.

September 24th in music stores: The soundtrack for the Buffy musical will come out.

Aaron<<<I'll keep that in mind. Does it have any weird side-effects?>>>Unless you take it on a full stomach you can get queasy.<<<Really?>>>I think Mooncat was also<<<There's always more plastic.>>>Not when you have a boy who is about to turn 20 in the house.

Gside<<<He may know about the deviances, but he does not enjoy any of them, nor does he really like to know of them.>>>Oh yes he prefers torture that crazy sick monkey<<>>He does when he is not in the panels or when they cut to commercial.<<<Or even Jersey>>>Um were talking about the Hotel not the state.<<<We had fead so>>>Feed so what? Feed so much???

Wilek<<<Oh I do. It's rather twisted of course, but better that than none at all. >;)>>>Rather twisted??? I think that is an understatement???<<>>In a jar or frozen?

Josh<<>>Hate Dreamy and Wolfy??? Now you can hate me. I bumped and grind with Dreamy while we were in our costumes.<<<They drove to LA for the *night* to see something at the LA apple store. Freaks.>>>That’s why you hang with them.<<<Use a spoon.>>>It won’t work. Have you ever taken a spoon to ice cream that is frozen rock solid? That is how hard his head is.<<<And so I did.>>>So now you deserve the chocolate Eliza Dushku.<<<Why?>>>That is where we are staying next year.<<<would smelling like bread be a turn-on or turn-off?>>> a lot of people enjoy the aroma of fresh baked bread.<<<You'll take anyone in this fandom ;-) >>>:::Smacks Josh with Smackers:::<<<Note to self... >>>What did you brain fizz out?<<>>You mean puts UP as in puts up with your bs.<<<Aren't all straight males?>>>Does this mean I’m a gay man trapped in a woman’s body?

Leo<<<Though we did have an article around christmas about a family who had beer can decorations>>>This reminds me of a Drew Carrey quote. “Oh yes the kids waking up to the tree decorated with beer bottles, and what is under the tree? It’s daddy passed out.” Something like that.<<<Im sure the Bushes will find a way to rig the election (again). ;)>>>That wasn’t rigged smart guy. Just blame the morons who don’t know how to vote.

Lain>>>Lay off the Coffee

Jaden>>>Are you making a habit of this?
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Sunday, August 18, 2002 11:02:40 AM
IP: 67.25.49.218

Josh> <<You're right, I haven't, mostly because I'm not desperate/brain dead>> she turned you down, huh? ;)
<<Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles>> ummm… *gags* Now that’s a combination that I would definitely stay away from! *L*

Daniel J> <<And you thought you'd gotten rid of me.>> nope, but I have been wondering where you’ve been! I hope you are here to stay this time =)

Green B> <<I'll be in Milan to visit Shadowrider.>> ohhhhman!!! *envious* I wanna’ go with you! *whines*

Heather> cute picture! Also, congrats to you and Robby!
<<I'm going to delivery babies! Yay?>> ohmy… after going thru the delivery with Anna and Zach – there’s no way in creation would I do that as a profession! My admiration goes out to you.

Aaron> <<They must have been asleep on the job then. Or do they not fly at night?>>. They can patrol during the nighttime too – but apparently they just weren’t patrolling while you were driving. You lucked out. ;)

Naimgold> <<who needs Pepsi...it's all about Coca Cola>> no no no! It’s Dr. Pepper or die! ;)
Sorry about your Tahoe plans… bummer.
I haven’t been on a “vacation” in a couple of years – I’m itchn’ to go somewhere, but haven’t decided yet on where to go. I live in the middle of “vacation land” but I don’t know which place to go yet. I’m considering a camping trip to Arkansas next month.

Christine> Congrats on your Zombie award! That’s awesome and well deserved =)

Stephen> how was the new He-Man show? I missed it. We used to be dedicated watchers of the original show – I wonder how this new version will equal up to it. Michael watched the new Transformers and was not impressed at all. I sure wish we still had all of his He-Man toys! He had everything possible of their line of toys…. Including He-Man Underoos. *chuckles*

Jennifer> it’s really nice to have some quiet time, huh? ;) Once I went to teaching, though.. I never seemed to have a break from the kids! I was off during the same days as they were =\

Anna is officially living in her own house now *happy feet dance* I do miss having Zach around here, though. I’ll continue babysitting in the evenings, so at least I’ll have him around for most of the week. It sure is quiet here.

~There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." ~
Jan
Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:50:24 AM
IP: 12.215.180.182

Leo - <Does this mean that you're Karyn's replacement as official TGS announcer?> Let's put it this way. You'll know around midnight CR time.

Lain - <AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!> Don't you trust me to look at for our best interests?

Wilek - Ahh, that explains why DC isn't bothering me.

Ok, I think I have nailed down my problems with my internet connection. After mdnight, when the day changes, my internet grew extremely unstable even though I had been online for the previous 30 minutes.

Imzadi - <You're a programmer, you should be competent enough to install a better version.> If I had a better version to install. <Good comeback!> Thank you.

Green Baron - <When helping people sell businesses, get paid in advance> This guy is honest to a fault.

I'm beginning to suspect I'm suffering from the curse of active TGS staffers - the more active they become, the less frequent they post.

GXB - I'll repeat it what I told you yesterday: Happy birthday.

Lain - <thanks anyways, i got a goodly mark notwithstanding
my total lack of position :D > That's what I thought. I NEED a NAP today.
DPH's hologram
AR, USA
Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:29:22 AM
IP: 204.94.193.49

There was an exceedingly cute chick at the Oakley Store today. What could be better than a cute girl who can get an employee discount on something I actually want? Oh, right: a cute girl who can get an employee discount on something I actually want AND puts out ;-)

Later I went with my parents to the Grove, a new outdoor upper-class mall in LA proper. Very nice place, good security, awesome stores, including an Apple flagship store. I walked my parents through the store and gave them a full tour of the product line. My dad seemed interested (I've been trying to get him to switch for a while) in the G4 towers, but much more interested in large monitors that would allow him to see two documents at the same time. He expressed high concerns about the price of Mac Office, to which I said "don't worry, I've got a copy that fell off a truck". He also did the "macs are too expensive" thing...before telling me that he spent enough on his current Dell to buy a mac that would make ANYONE drool.

Then we went to dinner at my favorite chinese place in the whole city. And had a cute waitress. What more could I ask for in a day? Pampered by the parents AND two cute chicks. God I miss LA.

Curses, missed the top ten. Oh well, today was worth it. August 19, huh? Hey wait...that's tomorrow!

My dad is taking Sunday off, first day off in nearly 2 weeks. You'd think the CEO could get away with more time off, but my Dad's company just bought one of his competitors and he's had to work non-stop to get everything put together: employees, equipment, customer service, etc. Its great and amazing...but it sucks not having him home the few days I'm here. The plus side is that we're gonna be working in the hobby room together, building models like old times.

Stephanie: I'm home. Email me with a list of cards you want. The list I have is...uh...LARGE.

Leo: <<Revel said something about you mock fondling Titania's boobs during the MGT 3000>>: That pretty much explains my entire personality. <<Does that mean that you're a lesbian trapped in a man's body?>>: Aren't all straight males?

Lain: <>: Mazel Tov. <<the lady on the phone was kinda in shock>>: Good for you. << dont think its reasonable to be paying a bill i havent received (no matter WHAT the HELL my university thinks, the bastards!>>: Sometimes its on you to keep track of when bills are supposed to come in. I do, just to avoid this kind of confrontation. <<BEWARE YOU SKANKY BANK! I WILL TAKE YOU DOWN>>: Kinky. <<if hes THAT despirate to talk to me, he can PAY FOR THE PHONE HIMSELF>>: That's what I told my parents when they asked why I didn't have a cell phone. <<then we wonder why i have no money>>: No, we know why: you're a poor dirty hippy.

Heather: <>: Yes, I'll gladly stop picking on him...oh right, I can't, because I don't know his NAME. Schmuck. <>: You're right, I haven't, mostly because I'm not desperate/brain dead.

And now you all know what I think about long distance relationships.

Green Baron: <>: I love the recent democrat ads that have tried to tie him to accounting scandals, but anyone with half a brain can see that he hasn't done a single illegal thing yet. <<our achievemnets are impressive, but not divine>>: Says you. Many societies wouldn't agree. <<Your dad would consider him wealthy>>: Yes, he would. <<That whole area is brand new and pricey>>: No, just pricey. <<You don't get what you want>>: Yeah, actually, I do. <<My depression is not his fault>>: Sorry, can't stop picking on you. You're a religious southerner. 8-) <<He's a self-centered bastard, but he is also an equal opportunity offender, and I'd vote for him if he ran for Office>>: Aww, thanks. I happen to agree with the equal opportunity offender thing. And now that I have your vote, I'll have to actually consider "running" instead of just "organizing a coup d'etat".

Daniel Johnson: <<you thought you'd gotten rid of me>>: Always looking for more mac users.

Wilek: <>: Stem cell research to create a new pizza hut, huh?

Gside: <<Most media players (especially those with proprietary formats) try to have some sort of browser integration>>: He wanted to know how he was supposed to know the media was quicktime instead of WMP or RM. <<Wrapped slices of Wilek?>>: Are the individually wrapped or packaged in a group? <<Can I find them in my grocer's freezer?>>: Or in the refrigerated section for more? <<It could be a mutant power>>: I heal really fast and have heightened senses...but I'm forever doomed to a bad hair day! <<can you get chicke waffles? Or waffle shaped chicken>>: No. <<they dould do it if they focused on the headlights>>: I don't know about that. From directly above, headlights barely register. Local lighting is far stronger. Though on vast empty stretches of highway it might work. <<That they like hairy women, apparently.>>: No accounting for taste.

Niamhgold: <<no Tahoe trip, darnit>>: Weak! Well, you'll have to come with me sometime.

Okay, time to sleep. And read directions for the B-1 I'm building tomorrow.

I got pistol whipped at laser tag.
- Aaron Wheeler, at Gathering 2001

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Encino, CA, US of A
Sunday, August 18, 2002 01:04:17 AM
IP: 206.170.218.88

10th!

And no Tahoe trip, darnit :(

Adios!
Niamhgold
Sunday, August 18, 2002 12:23:21 AM
IP: 209.165.121.232

Wilek> A real post. Woot.
<<how was I to know it used something from Quicktime?>>: Most media players (especially those with proprietary formats) try to have some sort of browser integration.
<<Gaze deep into the stinking abyss of my individually wrapped slices!>>: Wrapped slices of Wilek? Can I find them in my grocer's freezer?
<>: I'm pretty sure all the people who go to heaven won't be coming back, but there'll be something going on with the sins and angels. Perhaps the redemption of Wrath.
<<imagine the surprise of a watersports fanatic who suddenly finds himself with a faceful of sulfuric acid>>: Hydroflouric doesn't heal. And something to do with amonia would be more apropos.
<<You mean...his hair is like that...naturally?>>: It could be a mutant power.

Imzadi> <<Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles>>: But can you get chicke waffles? Or waffle shaped chicken?
<<Its difficult to distingish cars from the road at night without expensive equipment>>: I'd theink they dould do it if they focused on the headlights.
<<bumf*ck NJ>>: Alteratively The southern reaches or Camden.
<<What's that?>>: The gravity defying hair style sported by many RPG heroes, including Cloud, Crono, and Karn. http://adventurers.keenspace.com/d/0027.html
<<What do they know?>>: That they like hairy women, apparently.

General> <<dramatized by Aaron's driving>>: It's traumatized. Dramatized means it was reenacted on stage, screen, or film.

Daniel Johnson> <<And you thought you'd gotten rid of me>>: We had fead so. But have you returned, or is this just a visit?

Wilek> <>: Who are you summoning this time?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, August 17, 2002 11:55:13 PM
IP: 68.38.240.227

9
lain
Saturday, August 17, 2002 11:23:21 PM
IP: 65.92.88.201

Top 10! I WANT MONKEY FETUSES
Wilek
Saturday, August 17, 2002 11:07:22 PM
IP: 128.241.245.34

7th !
->"To be released on Monday, August 19, 2002"

finally, finally they are comming again, i can't believe it :D wohooo ! storytime !

Glückauf y'all
MrWho
AustriaSaturday, August 17, 2002 11:03:13 PM
IP: 195.230.174.18

6th.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:59:49 PM
IP: 68.38.240.227

5th! :)
Dreamie and Winterwolf
Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:48:11 PM
IP: 198.81.16.44

Hmm, disappear for several months but still able to make the forth post. And you thought you'd gotten rid of me.
Daniel Johnson - [daniel@daniel-johnson.org]
Ocean Grove, NJ, United States
Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:43:54 PM
IP: 138.89.79.143

#3, top 10!!
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:36:55 PM
IP: 204.94.193.55

#2!!!!!!!! whahahahaahaha!

more later
Mecord
Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:32:49 PM
IP: 12.255.11.48

Top Ten!

#1 !! Muhahahahahaha!
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:20:06 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20