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Ok I've said this once but i got the day wrong so i'll say it again.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SPACIE! *Scantly clad Brooklyn, Lex and Griff wheel in a great big cake, which is going 'tick, tick, tick' for some reason.*

Ok i'm just going over here now... for... some reason... a reason that is... unknown... *runs*

Silverbolt
Sunday, November 3, 2002 05:25:32 PM
IP: 213.1.194.216

Just checking in from Leavenworth, hi folks. Been a lovely weekend getaway. The weather's been clear and cold, frosty in the mornings, pleasant enough in the afternoons. Did the usual wandering of the shops. Managed to avoid a candy store binge this time, but I did buy a tote bag that folds up into standard purse size, but also unfolds into a shopping bag with wheels on the bottom. In leopard print, no less ... ; )

At the moment, we are in the Trendwest clubhouse. Tim's giving Becca pool lessons and I just snuck some copies of Curse of the Shadow Beasts onto the communal bookshelf. We'll be making the pretty drive back over the mountains a little later on and I still have an extra night off from work. After the hectic month we put in, we really needed this little vacation.

Christine
Sunday, November 3, 2002 02:09:45 PM
IP: 65.239.66.181

mc>> hey! it wasnt MY sense of humour :P but true enough, my sense of humour is a bit quirky.

i still love you tho ;)
lain
Sunday, November 3, 2002 01:46:32 PM
IP: 65.93.77.120

Lain -- hmmm... remind me never to offer you sympathy on anything again, kay? Your sense of humor is a bit... quirky.

My mom's ride did show up. And I am glad I didn't have to drive. The sun also came out, first time in WEEKS. It's... bright.

still tired. too much coffee. but now have to get ready to take my puter to the ex's to try out the HP DVD burner. Hopefully, since my computer is an HP, it will work better than the sony burner did. ::crosses fingers:: This time I'm disconnecting the cables from Bastet though, as my ex left them in a mad jumble last time that took me a while to figure out how to reconnect when we got my baby back home.

Last night did a new color job on the pic at the bottom of the GNL ep one. Still not satisfied with it, but it's better than the slap dash I did before. Jason is still giving me fits, but I figured out his character design is very much like Superman/Clark Kent's... square jaw, etc, only missing the kiss curl. So will look up refs for that instead. It's too hard to look at Hunters Moon for reference as it's mainly night shots and he has dark hair, his head sort of blends in with things on the few good face shots there is of him.

gotta bounce.

MC

MC
Sunday, November 3, 2002 12:42:44 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

*Warpmind lurches in*
Hi, gang. Postin' time.

Fire Storm: That idea for a fic... Angela in chains... *Twitch* Didn't Madame Destine pull a similar stunt already?

Gside: Dude, you do know that a character from the Baldur's Gate games cant' be transferred to NWN? It's all about the D&D edition... And as for me not having a BFA... True, but I'll settle for a BFG... };)

Josh: In my case, it *is* just a cigar. As for the Canon joke - when my computer - main unit, monitor, digital camera and EVERYTHING is delivered by HP, is there any fathomable reason why the package should include a printer from a competing brand?

Mythological Creature test: I'm a Chimera, apparently. But what kind of chimera, I wonder? *Ponders* I suppose squid is a good start... yeah... *Utterly unethical grin*

Siryn: You realize that the Sphinx in the test, likely based on the one with the riddle, is Greek? :)

...Lynati has to keep Mara from licking her? *Blinks, strobelights seem to go off randomly behind his eyes.* Girls, do you realize the potential of that concept, if you set it up as a Pay-Per-View at G'03? };)

Spacebabie: I notice I'm not on your list there. Should I feel hurt? };)

Impfac: Ye're on unstable ground there, friend... Trust me - I been there. And whatever happens, try to keep the wheely chairs away. };)

*Wanders off, idly wondering when the wipe'll be...*
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmindATtiscaliDOTno]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Sunday, November 3, 2002 11:52:36 AM
IP: 213.142.68.13

Yup, that was my post about how awful I am. Just seeing who would snap it up most eagerly, but alas lain corrected the record all too quickly :-( I was going to wait till I got home to say 'ha ha, April fools!' *checks calendar* Err.... or something like that anyway. I am if anything a decent guest, just ask Gabe since I lived with him for 3 months. A GREAT guest? Dunno.

Lain is very cool. Stop. Lain is kuddly and fun. Stop. Lain will kick my ass if I do not post this. Stop.

:P

She is a blast though, and I love her cats. We've had a good time and I'm taking her poor behind out to eat off my dime yet again today. She's such a kuddle fiend! (I use k's on purpose: www.kustomkettle.com). Very nice apartment too. Did I mention how kuddly she is? *smooches lain*

I hope she'll have me back. Besides, that bottle of vodka will only last me so long back in the states :P

Impfac - [impfac@yahoo.com]
Sunday, November 3, 2002 11:48:35 AM
IP: 65.93.73.62

*clap clap*

Wipers!?!
Leo
Sunday, November 3, 2002 11:30:52 AM
IP: 68.10.125.229

lain:<<...especially if it has apostrophes>> Also one of the sentences began with a capital letter.

"Plus he left all this mess for me...."
Leo
Sunday, November 3, 2002 11:29:15 AM
IP: 68.10.125.229

lain>> oh gimme a break :P
like i would post something like that in *here* where youd read them.. :P twit. :P *beats impfac up with nerf bats*

leo>> its a nice car. it has a cute picture of demona on the dashboard.

MC>> << :: pats shoulder :: I'll wait to give you the "never invite strange guys you meet on the internet to your home" speech later.>> no, actually you wont :P hes just being a jerk in the CR. he DID pick me up from work, and waited around for a really long time while i closed the store and the printer jammed and the tills were wrong and.. etc etc. hes not half naked (though he IS wearing my pants o.O ) and he bought me pizza and we watched "chasing amy". he said nothing about the socialist beast, but he IS mercilessly making fun of my "eh".

ill invite all the strange men i want to my house, thankyouverymuch ;)

the moral of the story is:
dont believe everything you read.

...especially if it has apostrophes :P

*beats impfac up with nerf bats* take THAT, you jerkface :P
lain
Sunday, November 3, 2002 11:07:19 AM
IP: 65.93.73.62

Lain -- :: pats shoulder :: I'll wait to give you the "never invite strange guys you meet on the internet to your home" speech later.

Make him pay for groceries though, tell him to pitch in if he eats all your fridge.

I'm so tired... expected my mother to come by today at 9 (to pick up supplies), so got up after only a few hours sleep, drank a pot of coffee... now she expects me to come to her since her ride flaked. I'm so taking a nap.

maybe.

I'm all full of 6 cups of black coffee right now.

=(

Hate to drive wired on caffine... sigh. But later this afternoon we do the HP dvd burner battle at the ex-boyfriends. *yeeks softly*

It's cold. It's rainy. It hurts to effing move. :: moves to giant bottle of ibprofen (sp?)... pain killers rule.

MC
MC
Sunday, November 3, 2002 10:56:48 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Lain:> Take a picture of his car and post it. :)

Spacebabie:> Happy Birthday
Leo
Sunday, November 3, 2002 10:41:01 AM
IP: 68.10.125.229

impfac may be cute in his sleep, but awake.... i go out and there’s this *one* car with IMPFAC plates and all these nazi stickers. oookay... i get home from work-which he wouldn’t pick me up from-and he’s half naked eating my fridge out and watching the movies he got for ‘us.’ Plus he left all this mess for me, and gave this speech about ‘being in the heart of the socialist beast’ or something, and about the jews...

you were all right about him. this is the worst guest ever. i can’t wait to get rid of him. :(
lain
Sunday, November 3, 2002 10:32:45 AM
IP: 65.93.73.62

sooooooooo tired... when is the room gonna reset? Last week it was early and caught me by surprise. No such luck to day. Almost 4am here. must sleep.

Heya Lila! Sushi is The Food of the Gods! Or at least lots of Japanese people. Mmmm... Sushi. Sashimi. My favorites are Maguro, Tako, Unagi, and everything else. Need sushi fix...

lates
MC
MC
Sunday, November 3, 2002 04:42:56 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Aaaaaaand I'm back. As a dragon, a lurker, a mocker, a friend. Junk food, Mr. Imzadi? I'd hope that includes sushi. The only true elite addiction. -Lila
Lila - [liejones@yahoo.com]
l.a., ca, usa
Sunday, November 3, 2002 04:32:30 AM
IP: 134.173.121.83

Doing homework gets really difficult when my profs don't put the assignments up. Did as much as I could do, but most of the day was spent eating junk food and watching TV, which is as it should be.

I saw the Batman Beyond movie today. That was some twisted sh*t!

Silverbolt: <<you should never stroke stray cats>>: Better to pet wet pussies. <>: Booo! <<stone you to death with rock cakes>>: I didn't realize they were that tough. <<works with something to do with golf>>: Really? He wouldn't tell me what he does. <<when are you going to get a website barracuda, mr. Todd sir?>>: When he can sucker one of his tech savvy fans into doing it for him, I'd wager.

Silvadel: <<another potential turncoat from the republican party>>: It really sucks having to be a member of a party that includes religious fanatics, but that's the only way to keep my money from being spent on crack whores.

Gside: <>: ? <<I'd assume anything that scary would be difficult to keep contained>>: That's a reasonable assumption. <<True shame>>: I disagree. My heart attack will be caused by much better tasting items. <>: Says YOU!

Good night.

34. I will not turn into a snake. It never helps.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, November 3, 2002 04:08:24 AM
IP: 64.165.203.162

I created javadocs for the first time today. Whee.

Imzadi> <<Burned lots of 1337 \/\/4|23Z to clear up my hard drive>>: Probably going to do that with anime tomorrow. Already refilled it within the day (with Hellsing) after uninstalling BGII. Now to install NWN, or do some DII, which my roomies also have?
<<You'd be right>>: But think of all the fun you could have in the ductwork, eating midgets, or as a water balloon if you were a boneless cat.
<<but whatever it is escapes me at the moment>>: I'd assume anything that scary would be difficult to keep contained.
<<I'm not a big fan of cheese>>: True shame.
<<Which is?>>: Not reaching 26.
<<That's probably why you're off the list>>: But I am a sexy, sexy man.

Silverbolt> <<Right so what's a fury?>>: http://www.pantheon.org/articles/f/furies.html

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Sunday, November 3, 2002 01:59:38 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

What am I doing on here at this hour -- well wont be for very long -- will be in bed.

This has been a very wierd day... Didnt get done what I wanted to -- where did the time go.

Odd that the board hasnt reset either.

I heard that there is another potential turncoat from the republican party if they take the senate by one vote -- I find it so wierd that the democrats succeed so well in being able to overturn the senate like that so easily. Personally I think that if you change party affiliation, you should have to undergo a special election. What Jeffers did before and what I cant remember the name but the guy being courted might do is criminal.

Haloween simpsons tomorrow.

Well enough train of thought.

Nobody will likely see it anyway as the board will change =)

silvadel
Sunday, November 3, 2002 12:57:49 AM
IP: 208.59.247.9

grrrrrrrrr
Anonymous
Saturday, November 2, 2002 07:42:32 PM
IP: 211.28.96.7

First off, thanks to Vash for putting this on GNC. ^_^

ANyways, gang, for everyone who enjoyed the Gargoyles Marathon (regardless of edits) I thought it would be great if everyone in the fandom let toon disney know how appreciative we are for them showing the Gargoyles Marathon. The link in my name is ofr a general feedback form. It only takes a few minutes, but please write and let toon disney know you're grateful for them showing the Gargoyles Marathon (especially Deadly Force) Toon Disney has been noticing this fandom a lot more, and even though it might not bring the show back its a VERY good sign and might be a positive push for them to release all the eps on DVDS. :)

So there is my pitch. :)

Silverbolt> The dates are on the website, (3 places at least, faq, rules, and submit sections), however, voting ends (every month) on midnight (eastern time) on the 15th. Results are usually posted between the 16th and 20th. (but usually on the 16th.)
Siryn - [<-- Thank toon disney!]
Saturday, November 2, 2002 03:11:23 PM
IP: 66.66.98.101

Ah so me, Airwalker and Lain are the three furies then ;P

Oh yeah and also I got rid of the cat because I have this thing about stealing and for al i knew that cat was someone elses so there *sticks out tongue*
Silverbolt
Saturday, November 2, 2002 02:55:50 PM
IP: 213.123.11.180

That should read:

Actually, I think Spacebabie's birthday isn't until tomorrow. :)
Leo
Saturday, November 2, 2002 02:41:46 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Spacebabie:> actually , I think her birthday isn't until tomorrow.
Leo
Saturday, November 2, 2002 01:50:04 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Post script - GNL schedule is loosely set at 4 to 6 week intervals. Episode 2 will be out around Thanksgiving, if the fates are kind.

MC
>^,,^<
MC
Saturday, November 2, 2002 01:49:54 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Silverbolt -- you kicked out a kitty? bad! No Delilah for you! :: pops Delilah back in her handy garg carry case ::

GNL plans for Delilah are rather complex, but no plans for anything like Firestorm suggests. She is a major player in our story arc for at least the next two seasons. We've been grooming her for a lead role since day one.

Artwork for GNL - I'm trying to finish that on pic I started. I am fast developing a hatred for Jason. I can't draw him. I spent hours wednesday, I spent hours yesterday and today... and he just isn't coming together. I may have to give up and put someone else's head there. He just has a funky weird head that is difficult to draw right. I may have to do "generic" head and just call it Jason. gah...

A Fury when it's at home is one of the Weird Sisters *^_^* hee... The three Furies, the three Graces, the three Fates. There are a lot of sets of three in Greco-Roman mythology.

MC
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Saturday, November 2, 2002 01:45:57 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Hmm... well what happened today proves you should never stroke stray cats. My mum stroked one whilst i was in the car and once she opened the door to get in the cat decided it wanted to go as well, luckily we got it out. Grr... I hate cats! go Dogs!

Firestorm> <<Hmm... I take it that you wouldn't like to see Delilah tortured, abused, and eventually killed? >> Oh well if that's the... WHAT?????????????? NOOOOOOOO! You canna do that! *Looks at mooncat* You're not going to hurt her are you? *Big pleady eyes* you can't! *looks back at firestorm* if you do anything meanie like to Delilah I'll drown you in tea and/or stone you to death with rock cakes!

Ed> <<It's refreshing to see Duckula references after all these years. Takes me right back...>> Yeah it was great! and you're from england too! Whoo!

Spacebabie> Happy birthday fellow Scorpio! (12 more days till mine and I'll be 18 yay!)

Mooncat> Happy unbirthday as well to you and btw new legends was great! More pictures needed though! I need pictures when i read a fic! When's the next episode coming out? Is it weekly? monthly? yearly? (better not be yearly!) <<when it's at home it's a Fury *^_~*>> Right so what's a fury? And what is it when it's not at home? ^_~

Josh> << That guy spends all his free time writing. Just as well. His writing rocks.>> well for a guy who works with something to do with golf (i forget what he said it was) he must have lots of free time! *waves a little flag* go Barracuda! (when are you going to get a website barracuda, mr. Todd sir?)

siryn> <<MGC is updated!! Everyone is welcome to vote on the Gothic Gargoyles topic!!> when does it close i want to know how badly i did.
Silverbolt - [silverbolt2012@hotmail.com]
Saturday, November 2, 2002 01:15:36 PM
IP: 62.7.12.112

impfac got here okay last night. okay, so it was 5am by the time he arrived but.. at least he arrived. hes currently sleeping with the blanket over his head in the other room. he lookie so cute!!! heh heh.. ];)
lain
Saturday, November 2, 2002 11:12:29 AM
IP: 65.93.73.62

Work today...at least a little bit. After all, Friday is supposed to be my work-holiday. Burned lots of 1337 \/\/4|23Z to clear up my hard drive.

Lynati: <<be thankful that there is any artwork at all right now>>: Yes ma'am. << half the TGS artists are bogged down with world war II homework>>: It ended almost 60 years ago...how important can it be? <<trying to stop Mara from licking me>>: Um...

Fire Storm: <<they will just say that we are being mean>>: Which will be true. <<where would he pin the purple ribbon?>>: Huh? <<Decent food?>>: Anything we can make here, the Canadians can also make. <<hot American men?>>: Well, *I* am here ;-)

Spacebabie: <<the following men delivered to my house>>: Weak! I didn't make the list. Oh well, only 25% of them are real people anyway. <>: You'd be right. <>: What reason? <<bright Rainbow colors?>>: The rule didn't say rainbow. <<Stay out of the French part>>: Easily done. <<It is good you know your wood>>: One must study wood. <<Sneaky paper being where it is supposed to be>>: True. How stupid did I feel.

Lain: <<WHAT THE @(*#&$>>: Its called Canada in the fall.

Christine: <<handy excuse for inexplicable pregnancies>>: That clears up a lot, thanks.

Barracuda: <<the similarities are there, especially downstairs>>: You have a huge ass? <<Ladies present>>: Wrong CR ;-) <<now I'll probably get the horse's ass comment I know is coming>>: Pretty much, yeah. <<That Mr. Wurzel's a troublemaker, that's for sure>>: Despite little evidence of that. <>: Hey dude, you don't have to make excuses to me, its YOUR universe. <<Maybe I'll kill him of>>: I'm so glad my year of faithful service has been rewarded. I guess that's a hint for me to get back into editing, eh? Well, as soon as you get back into writing, deal?

Leo: <<pre-imacs>>: Almost truly worthless. <<which featured *1MB* of ram!>>: What's really amazing is that many of these still work, and are still in service at schools around the country. <<all those wonderful Mac museum pieces were staced, wrapped and forklifted into a container to be sold as scrap>>: Eh, I don't mind. It has to happen at some point. <<*Keep this card with you for four more years.*>>: HAHA. <<you do realize he's just barely as tall as you are>>: Many actors/actresses are short. <<Dominique probably fired him>>: I'm sure he could get a suitable similar position with XE or CB. <<30Mb I think>>: Remember when that was big?

Gside: <<there's something that out ranks me?>>: probably, but whatever it is escapes me at the moment. <<it must be outranked by the fire, meat, and cheese>>: I'm not a big fan of cheese. Meat and fire is good, though. <<Better than the alternate>>: Which is? <<How did I get left off that list? I mean clothing is always optional with me.>>: That's probably why you're off the list. <>: As did I.

Mooncat: <<as I'd forgotten to do that today>>: Didn't your stomach protest? Mine does when I'm just a few hours behind normal mealtime. <<sleep myself silly>>: How does one do that, exactly? Doesn't the silliest time come right before a much-needed sleep? <>: That was me. Sorry. I was hungry. <<I'll pass your mention on to Kimberly. I think that was in one of the scenes she penned>>: It just sounded out of place coming from Elisa's mind. I'll post a more thoughtful review on the forum, now that I know its there.
Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, November 2, 2002 03:12:53 AM
IP: 64.161.24.137

Spacebabie - happy birthday!

:: presents rolled up carpet ::

I brought you a trifling giftie =)

:: unrolls carpet... a mane of white hair spreads across the floor as Inu Yasha stares up, slightly dizzy, and stunned by his sudden abduction ::

Happy!!! Hope you like. *^_~*

MC
Mooncat
Saturday, November 2, 2002 02:32:29 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Lain - snow? kewl =) Here it is just COLD. I soaked in a hot tub for a half hour and still couldn't get the shivers out of me. But then I realized later part of the shivers was from not eating, as I'd forgotten to do that today. O_o ... eep!

I did however sleep myself silly. An 8 hour stint, then a four hour nap. And I am still sleepy. But I have chores that need doing before sleep time again.

Halloween -- COLD -- moreso than today was. And for the first time ever I have lots of left over candy because so few TnT'ers this year. I went to dinner with my ex-boyfriend, who gave me a happy unbirthday party =) and left a big bowl of candy on a chair on my front porch with a "take one" sign. Came home and it was cleaned out. I am fairly sure some greedy bad boy/girl just took it all though. Fairly sure. sigh...

And after that I only got one TrickTreater, a sweet little cat girl =) I just poured candy into her little plastic cauldron. Apparently, and I heard this from a mom who came by my ex's during dinner, the few kids who did trick or treat were making out like bandits because there were so few of them out there, that even though only a very few house was giving candy this year, each of them was pouring it on the kids.

Today another friend gave me unbirthday gifts. A bit of a surprise as she had taken a turtle carved of amber out of my jewelery case, and then strung it up on a necklace of hemetite, tigerseye, goldstone, and antique glass beads that she put together for me. I really like it, but a little freaked that she'd done that with my personal property. She also made me a matching bracelet.

We spent tonight at my ex's, watching studio Ghibli movies. I bought the boxed set and hadn't seen half of them yet, like Porco Rosso. We all ate the majority of the unBirthday cookie from yesterday. **^_^**

Now the deadlines on other projects descend...

I think I'll just feed and water the cats, and do the rest of the chores tomorrow. I can barely keep my eyes open, despite 12 hours of sleep.

Josh -- Thanks for the kind words on GNL =) I really can't express how pleased I am with how everyone in the project has come together to produce the premeire episode. I re-read it and am pretty amazed how smoothly each part flowed together, since it was a number of different writers doing different scenes.

Skeevy... I don't know as I've ever used it, but I think I've heard it used a time or two. Last time I heard it out loud I think was in Buffy the Musical, when Xander sang about the skeevy cheese that Anya liked. But I'll pass your mention on to Kimberly. I think that was in one of the scenes she penned.

Any and all comments, suggestions, critiques, about the GNL premiere would be very welcome at the GNL message board. I think everyone working on the project is pretty hungry to know how the premiere is coming across.

Well, time to feed and water the cats.

lates!
Mooncat
>^,,^<

Gargoyles New Legends - [<--- clickie!]
Saturday, November 2, 2002 02:24:37 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Imzadi> <<That is the second scariest thing I've ever heard>>: Thank you. And there's something that out ranks me?
<<IIGS's weren't SUPPOSED to have hard drives!>>: They still made them (hard drives for IIGSs, not IIGSs).
<<Which is why we don't want bread>>: I bit of bread is good, but it must be outranked by the fire, meat, and cheese.
<<But you don't, do you?>>: ...

Fire Storm> <<Sounds like I have a story to write>>: Don't you have a couple to go before you get to it?

Spacebabie> <>: Better than the alternate.
<<the following men delivered to my house with caramels, wine and bubble bath. Clothing optional>>: How did I get left off that list? I mean clothing is always optional with me.
<>: Yes, I know. It's hard not to. I had to fight writing the kitty synonym.

Leo> <<It had it's own power cord and had an outer case the size of the GS box>>: Ours was internal. I belive it was called a Vulcan.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Saturday, November 2, 2002 02:05:27 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

Hmmm... A Phoenix.

Have a good evening.

Story
Friday, November 1, 2002 11:54:17 PM
IP: 192.63.70.59

I volunteered to help recycle computers today. That involves gutting the cases of any salvagable components, stripping them down to the bare steel shell then stacking them on wooden pattates and wraping the stacks in plastic. Today we did monitors and integrated systems(pre-imacs)so there wasn't any gutting to be done.

We got a truckload of old Apple computer hardware from Hampton City Public Schools. Including 33 "Classic" Macintosh computers (Two were "Macintosh Pluses" which featured *1MB* of ram!!!!) and 16 Preforma Power PCs to go with the 200+ monitors. And all that to add to the 300+ dead monitors we already had that were full of rusty water from laying outside in the rain.

Yes Josh, all those wonderful Mac museum pieces were staced, wrapped and forklifted into a container to be sold as scrap. Actually the performas didn't make it on the container this time so there may be an opportinity to see if some of them still work. :)

Oh, and I'm a Gryphon, with Phoenix and Centaur at either end of whatever so-called spectrum that test implies.
____________________________________________________

lain:<<10 to 20 cm of SNOW?!?!?!>>Well you are in "the great white north"<<WHAT THE @(*#&$%!!!!>> Um.. I think you used too many characters in that last word. Unless you're trying to swear like Q-bert. :)(that kind of shows my age doesn't it)

Spacebabie:<> Congratulations you're 30!!!! *Keep this card with you for four more years.* But you're still considered "mid" twenties. You stil have one more year before your "late" twenties, which is where I'll be Dec. 6. << following men delivered to my house..>No Goliath? or is he too old. <<Tom Cruise>> you do realize he's just barely as tall as you are. ;)

Josh:<<Which explains why a certain character hasn't made an appearance in any of the last 30 TGS:BA eps>> Dominique probably fired him :)<<That doesn't count. IIGS's weren't SUPPOSED to have hard drives!>>I saw one that did today. 30Mb I think. It had it's own power cord and had an outer case the size of the GS box. It was still connected to the floppy port. We had to cut the cable to separate them because the screws had rusted.

(As the wrapped stack of classic macintosh computers was loaded into the container, you could almost hear their little Steven Hawking voices screaming. "Hello, I am Macintosh")

Leo
Friday, November 1, 2002 10:37:13 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Yeah, I got dragon, just confirming the status quo. I'm running behind this week but here is my review of Timedancer.

<Warning Spoilers! Though if I'm spoiling anything now, four days later, where are your priorities.>

Timedancer Review: “The Harsh Light of Day: Part 1”
Tagline:
City of Stone: Gwenyvere style

Plotline:
You know the drill. The present-day story skims along positioning characters for surprising twists and maximum pathos. But this is a cover for the past story, where we learn the details of a secondary character, in this case Gwenyvere.

Review line:
Others have already hit on the clunky and jarring way; the Nick Jr. & the forgettable Unseelie have disappeared off the map while Gwenyvere and Harthoth are rotated to the foreground.

To the credit of the staff, they did keep Gwen and Harthoth in the background of numerous episodes: Harthoth’s visits to Sata and Gwen popping for Samson. Unfortunately, Gwen’s presence this season has been so sporadic it is hard to feel involved with Gwen’s background story. It’s the same with Nick Jr. The characters need to establish themselves and their goals well in advance of the background story. On the show, Demona and Macbeth made several appearances before City of Stone.

The past Angela did seem out of character especially considering they survived the New York earthquake. The worst of it was over. What was so terrible about New York that they couldn’t leave sooner? Broadway should have shown more backbone. I don’t think he would have objected, but he knew this wouldn’t fly well with his kids. He should have asked her about it, because it didn’t seem like Angela was thinking about of her children, more like selfish thinking of herself.

The neglectful parent syndrome> It seems Angela and Merlin can start of support group. A parent makes one mistake thus dooming the child to becoming a villain. It’s used so often it has become cliché. I love antagonists with fatal flaws as much as the next dragon, but it seems like a bit lazy to just pin characters' unhappiness on their parents. I hope the second part of this cliché doesn’t happen. That where the parent clear sees the signs of trouble, but takes their sweet time getting involved.

Here is the good: Brooklyn and Meryt. The picture was great, perfectly illustrating the scene. Didn’t like that Brooklyn like a sucker knowingly walks into a trap. (What is it with gargoyles in the future? Is there something in the water that addles their brain?) But once there, he performed in true heroic form.

My favorite bit was hearing Artus reason for going with his family to Avalon. That was perfectly in character both sad and very sweet. I also liked his optimistic attitude during the rebuilding of New York. You could really see the qualities that make him a good leader.

I don’t think that the season has passed quickly. I think it’s because many episodes were fillers that didn’t add to the overall story. Those eps were easily forgettable and hence the feeling that the season has whipped by.

A good opening for a multiparter. Gwen definitely has some ‘xplaining to do.

<End of Spoilerage>

Happy All Saints Day
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Friday, November 1, 2002 09:42:29 PM
IP: 24.205.124.123

I must like water too much ... I rated as a Naiad.
Coyote the Bando
Algonac, Michigan
Friday, November 1, 2002 08:57:03 PM
IP: 216.234.96.80

Josh> "A hideous man-beast?" - Yeah, though I must admit, the similarities are there, especially downstairs...no, no, I won't finish that thought. Ladies present, and I'm the Canadian equivalent of a gentlemen. Course, now I'll probably get the horse's ass comment I know is coming...

"Which explains why a certain character hasn't made an appearance in any of the last 30 TGS:BA eps" - That Mr. Wurzel's a troublemaker, that's for sure. Sarcastic little so-and-so, but I promised you, he'd return. Though his role may be small, it'll definitely be there. Maybe I'll kill him off, I'm getting a reputation for that.

Skeevy? Heh heh heh, I haven't heard or used that word for years.
The Barracuda
B.C., Canada
Friday, November 1, 2002 06:26:24 PM
IP: 208.181.155.197

Incubus/Succubus > my exhaustive research on the subject (which should surprise no one <g>) indicates that these are not actually seperate creatures but single entities with the power to swap gender depending on that of the victim. In succubus form, the entity would collect "emissions" from sleeping men, then transform, visit upon a sleeping woman, and voila, a handy excuse for inexplicable pregnancies! ; )

Happt belated Halloween, everybody!
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Friday, November 1, 2002 12:29:29 PM
IP: 65.239.13.191

10 to 20 cm of SNOW?!?!?!

WHAT THE @(*#&$%!!!!
lain
Friday, November 1, 2002 12:04:00 PM
IP: 65.93.73.62

Yesterday sucked. Let me set up this situation. We have to keep Rocco separate from the other dogs. .mostly Patch and Frisky. I accidentally let the dogs out not knowing Rocco was in the yard.

There was a fight. I grabbed Frisky and managed to haul him into the house. Frisky is a large 130 pound Dalmatian. Well mostly Dalmatian he isn’t as stupid as his pure bred mother. Dad was holding Rocco down while I brought Patch a Boxer/Pit Bull mix in and had to doctor up his neck.
During the fight Patch accidentally bit down on my dad’s shoulder. When my dad shouted Patch had this really surprised look on his face. Like Jon Canmore did when he shot Jason.
I applied gauze pads coated with Neosporin to my dad shoulder and medical taped them down. Rocco has some injuries and I got a small bite on my left hand.

There were a few students dressed up yesterday on campus. Including the only two students in Non fic class who were up for workshop.

Not too many tirck or treators. So now we have a lot of starbursts and skittles
_____________________________ER SPOILERS_________________________
Oooh a case of Necratizing Facitis aka the flesh eating bacteria.

Wow another ep where Robert wasn’t a complete Jack ass

Abbey’s costumes looks like something I drew recently
_______________________SPOILERS END___________________________________

Creature test: I’m a Gryphon.

Now for some good news

I FINALLY got in the ADV Fiction Workshop! About F---ing time! Well there were three classes this time instead of the one.

Now for something depressing. My birthday is coming up and I really don’t want to turn 26. I guess what would cheer me up were the following men delivered to my house with caramels, wine and bubble bath. Clothing optional
Brooklyn
Lexington
Tony Dracon
Jason and Jon Canmore
Griff
Jericho
Death
Jeff Deggar
Nakagao
Chichiri
Vegeta
Zelgadis
Touga
Treize Kusrhinada
Lantis
Gene Starwind
Spike Spiegal
Inu Yasha
Gambit
David Boreanez
Matt Daemon
Ben Affleck
Toby Mcguire
Ewan Macgregor
Tom Cruise
And that hot actor who plays Clark on Smallville.

Replies

Kathy<<<Do you really have scorpians?>>>Just my beanie Scorpion and myself.

Warpmind<<<No wonder I feel so... energetic and Machiavellian of late>>>It’s out time of year again.

Gside<<<Ah. But which is better? Being a machine that can only run on its give tracks, or a hairless soft kitty? >>>I have a Freudian response for that so I can figure Josh would rather be a train.

Josh<<<Nah, sounds more like a woot.>>>A woot could be all sorts of thing. I guess my mind was on trains for some reason.<<<Who said anything about pastels?>>>Okay bright Rainbow colors?<<<Its working.>>>Stay out of the French part.<<>>That is the male version of a Succubus.<<<At least my wood design midterm was easy>>>It is good you know your wood.<<<Then I noticed page 2...right there between pages 1 and 3.>>>Sneaky paper being where it is supposed to be.

Silverbolt>>> That was funny, and it would be awesome if they did something like that.

Winterwolf<<<If anyone wants me I'll be in the CR's all concealing shadows.>>>:::Whistles::: Here wolfy wolfy want some jerky?

Firestorm<<<Hey! I am a Succubus!>>>Why am I NOT surprised?
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Friday, November 1, 2002 10:49:27 AM
IP: 67.25.48.209

Silverbolt: <And you’re featuring Delilah and I wasn’t informed?>
Hmm... I take it that you wouldn't like to see Delilah tortured, abused, and eventually killed?
...
Sounds like I have a story to write! <VEG>

Gunjack: <Note a senior government official goes on about how "unfriendly" the US is being. Not "evil", or "criminal", but "Unfriendly". I love Canada.>
And once we attack, they will just say that we are being mean!

Imzadi: <Sure, he's just the sensitive guy who likes poetry and cooking...wait a second...>
Hmm... good point...
NO! NO! Must not listen to ideas! I have plans for him!
But there are always OTHER stories...
But where would he pin the purple ribbon?
<Come on. If you live in Canada, what could possibly bring you here anyway?>
Decent food? Hot Canadian chicks looking for hot American men?

Male Succubus. Sex vampire, more or less.

BUT if that's what she wants to wear, hey, so steel!

Todd Jensen: <You people are now officially beginning to scare me>
Awww! You say the nicest things!

Hey! I am a Succubus!
Fire Storm
Friday, November 1, 2002 08:27:25 AM
IP: 66.72.182.247

Silverbolt: It's refreshing to see Duckula references after all these years. Takes me right back...

I wonder what TGS's Vlad would make of broccoli sandwiches? :)
Ed - [ed@steelclaw.org]
London, England
Friday, November 1, 2002 04:11:26 AM
IP: 131.111.8.103

danke, danke to the art compliments I recieved for my most recent work, I appreciate it.
a lot.
a lot a lot.
like, a huge LOT lasered into the mon so you cansee it from the earth on a clear night.

Josh, be thankful that there is any artwork at all right now, half the TGS artists are bogged down with world war II homework. You want a mech-suit drawing, feel free to comission one.

...and now, I must return my focus to trying to stop Mara from licking me. good evening to all.
Lynati
Friday, November 1, 2002 03:57:41 AM
IP: 64.12.96.138

I *hate* Thursdays, they take forever. F*cking classes from 930-8. At least my wood design midterm was easy. I guess if the prof hadn't hyped it up as being much harder, I wouldn't have done as much prep work as I did.

I really wanted to leave the test 20 minutes early since he singled me out last class saying that I wouldn't be able to do that. Then I noticed page 2...right there between pages 1 and 3.

Silverbolt: <<Does this mean you’ll be taking a more active role in this Comment Room now?>>: That guy spends all his free time writing. Just as well. His writing rocks.

Mooncat; The GNL episode ROCKED! Very well written except for a few colloquialisms that sounded funny (who says "skeevy", anyway?).

Godiva: <<I'm a succubus>>: I bet you are.

Barracuda: <<I'm a centaur. ...the hell?>>: A hideous man-beast? ;-) <<watch the fights that often break out>>: Which explains why a certain character hasn't made an appearance in any of the last 30 TGS:BA eps ;-)

Patrick: <<I'm a succubus>>: Explains a lot.

Hyperion: <<First Phoenix on the board>>: Second, actually.

Vegeta: <<Just wondering if there was ever a final episode and if so how did it go>>: Keep watching.

Gside: <<the bastard son of Chubaca and Princess Lea''s that fell to Earh and landed in Jersey>>: That is the second scariest thing I've ever heard. <<We had to splice our own wires to install a hard drive in our IIGS>>: That doesn't count. IIGS's weren't SUPPOSED to have hard drives! <<Apple does seem to like its customers to think of their products as sealed black boxes>>: No, it just thinks that consumers who don't know about computers shouldn't ever need to futz with them. <<It just depends on your ratios of fire, meat, and cheese to everything else>>: True. Which is why we don't want bread. So our hands are covered with meat and cheese. <<if I prefer to sit naked in the chair instead of watching TV, I'm a succubus>>: But you don't, do you? <<Male version of succubi. It fits>>: Woot!

Okay, time to sleep.

33. I won't require high-ranking female members of my organization to wear a stainless-steel bustier. Morale is better with a more casual dress-code. Similarly, outfits made entirely from black leather will be reserved for formal occasions.

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, November 1, 2002 03:16:22 AM
IP: 64.161.25.117

It rated me a Gryphon.

Too short Too Short....

We had not ONE Trick or Treater this year... Usually we only get about 1 or 2 clusters but ZILCH this year... It seems like the way to kill off haloween is to make the parents scared of letting their kids go out.
silvadel
Friday, November 1, 2002 01:45:29 AM
IP: 208.59.247.9

Apparently, I'm an Incubus. Heh.

In other news, I finally cracked the back end of the ellusive "Bullsub MP-5" design. This means nothing to any of you, but so very much to ME. Picked up a gun rag, cashed my paycheck, staggered home under the weight of MORE CASH THAN YOU'VE EVER SEEN....

And one class left between me and my weekend. *sigh*
Gunjack "Bring" Valentine
Friday, November 1, 2002 01:40:42 AM
IP: 192.133.129.3

im an.. erinyes? GO ME!!

though.. it doesnt really go with the fluffy bunny image... hmm..

i shalt away to avenge.. uh.. something... and stuff..
lain
Friday, November 1, 2002 01:39:36 AM
IP: 65.93.72.11

Umm, i really havent been keeping up on the gargoyles, but i thought thay stoped makeing them?

Looking at Dishnetworks tv guide "For It my Come True" is copyright 2002? that would put it this year....
Zor - [zor@smallinfinity.com]
Friday, November 1, 2002 01:04:38 AM
IP: 64.41.22.233

Incubus was the male form of a succubus (in general terms). (I knew what it was more specifically, but I can't remember what it is right now)

MGC is updated!! Everyone is welcome to vote on the Gothic Gargoyles topic!! :D

Also, the new november topic is up as well!

Happy halloween!
Siryn - [<--MGC IS LOVE!]
Friday, November 1, 2002 12:36:41 AM
IP: 129.21.145.6

I got my second personal in the Medium today. They described me as "the bastard son of Chubaca and Princess Lea''s that fell to Earh and landed in Jersey." Then they said they'd turn me into a gimp. I'm so happy.

Imzadi> <>: We had to splice our own wires to install a hard drive in our IIGS. And Apple does seem to like its customers to think of their products as sealed black boxes.
<<cooking...wait a second>>: You can be manly and cook. It just depends on your ratios of fire, meat, and cheese to everything else.
<<Do you mean "A or B but not both"?>>: You get a gold star.
<<That's gonna hurt>>: Depends on the cheese.

Mythological: I got gorgon. But if I prefer to sit naked in the chair instead of watching TV, I'm a succubus.

Imzadi> <>: Male version of succubi. It fits.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:50:17 PM
IP: 165.230.240.116

I'm an incubus. The exact words of the site were: "You're an incubus, you stud!"

I don't know much about incubii...anyone care to fill me in?
Josh
Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:28:23 PM
IP: 64.161.25.117

Nice site.

Iv been watching toonD's all out run of all the episods and i ended up drawing this:
http://www.smallinfinity.com/fang.jpg what do you guys

think of it?
Zor - [zor@smallinfinity.com]
Lancaster, PA, USA
Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:13:18 PM
IP: 64.41.22.233

**Dreamie and Winterwolf enter and drop off a basket filled with candy for all.**

Happy Halloween! :)

**Dreamie and Winterwolf leave CR to go and enjoy some treats**

Dreamie and Winterwolf
Seattle
Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:01:47 PM
IP: 198.81.26.201

Hmm... apparently I'm a succubus. :: blinks ::

Pretty artwork!

MC
Mooncat
Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:49:51 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Hey guys i'm new to this forum. I used to watch Gargoyles back in the day, and have recently caught interest again with the Toon Disney Gargoyle Marathon they are having. Just wondering if there was ever a final episode and if so how did it go. THanks!!
Vegeta - [old_school_boston@hotmail.com]
Floyd, Texas
Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:22:32 PM
IP: 64.46.173.141

I'm a dragon.
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:20:14 PM
IP: 204.94.193.44

Took the test... I'm a Centaur!

Also, Kellie Fey came up a Fury as well...

Maintain and Check Six!
Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [ssobotka33616@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Thursday, October 31, 2002 09:54:04 PM
IP: 65.35.132.45

Just a bit of voice actor info:

Jeff Bennet has a part in Friday the 13th part 7. It airs at 1:00 am EST on TNN.
Leo
Thursday, October 31, 2002 09:44:22 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Mwhahaha I'm a sphyinx!!!! >:D YAY!

*walks like an egyptain* ;)
Siryn - [<--New topic..err..in a few hours?]
Thursday, October 31, 2002 09:15:15 PM
IP: 129.21.145.6

Ha! Another successful operation! I shall have to celebrate by going downstairs and helping myslef to the leftover halloween candy. There certanly is alot ever since I left my lights off and strung razor wire thoughout my yard.

Note to self: Stop saying "ha!" all the time.

**********************************
"Ah! He has become one with his inner self!"
"He's passed out."
"That too."
Hyperion
Thursday, October 31, 2002 08:57:56 PM
IP: 151.199.242.91

Took the exam. I came out as Erinyes.

(That's Greek for the Furies, right? So I guess that I'm in the same boat as Todd and Patrick. Oh well, at least that means that I'd have all those fun retribution and vengence..... uh,.... I mean plain old Justice powers. Yeah, Justice, that's the ticket.....)

:-)
:-)
Airwalker - [airwalker9999@yahoo.com]
Brooklyn, NY
Thursday, October 31, 2002 08:55:51 PM
IP: 12.88.160.96

Ha! First Phoenix on the board. Knowing me as well as I do, I find that both very funny and disturbingly accurate.
I believe this "test" is really some kind of supernatural mind reading device that pulls the answers from deep within your psyche. I shall have to take steps to prove I'm right.

Meanwhilst, if anyone has posted "phoenix" before I post the message I shall be very annoyed.

***********************************
"The other half of the dance goes something like this: We meet, renew acquaintances, talk about old times at the academy, you ask about my aunt, I ask about your brother, we lie about not missing each other and we end up in bed together. And then you leave."
"Or you leave. Last time it was you."
"No it wasn't."
"Yes it was."
"No. .. Was it? .. You're right, last time it was me. Oh god, who can keep it all straight anymore."
Hyperion
Thursday, October 31, 2002 08:54:01 PM
IP: 151.199.242.91

surprise surprise. Cat's a Dragon. *smile* at least i match my husband.
Mecord's Cat
Thursday, October 31, 2002 08:07:13 PM
IP: 12.255.11.48

PATRICK - A succubus? So the test didn't pick up on the fact that you were a male, either? What's with that test, anyway?
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, October 31, 2002 07:39:40 PM
IP: 67.28.94.64

Mwahahaha... I'm a succubus.

And you were scared of me before, Todd. ;)

Happy Halloween, everyone!
Patrick Toman
Thursday, October 31, 2002 07:11:32 PM
IP: 67.38.243.27

I'm a Phoenix, Wheeeee!
kathy
Thursday, October 31, 2002 06:50:55 PM
IP: 66.167.192.234

I took the test and am now feeling officially baffled and bewildered. It said that I was a Naiad or Nereid. How can that be, when I'm a male? After all, being female is part of the "job description" for naiads and nereids.

This is definitely a mystery of the highest order.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, October 31, 2002 06:42:25 PM
IP: 67.28.92.25

i dont post here anymore, but i just had to say that Revel and Lynati are some of the best aritists in the fandom.. that new picture in the new timedancer story is fucking awesome (the one which brooklyn is fighting) very, very nice job guys.
NukesGoBoom
Thursday, October 31, 2002 05:59:35 PM
IP: 12.243.88.49

YES!!!!! I'm a Dragon! whahahaha! :)

**goes back to lurker mode**
Mecord
Thursday, October 31, 2002 05:32:46 PM
IP: 12.255.11.48

Frig, I'm a centaur. ...the hell?

Silverbolt> Nah, usually I just lurk, and then post only if I have something to add or if something catches my eye/interest. I'm more than content to sit back and watch the fights that often break out.
The Barracuda
B.C., Canada
Thursday, October 31, 2002 05:10:45 PM
IP: 208.181.156.210

Silverbolt, when it's at home it's a Fury *^_~*

Leo, sorry, the board wasn't totally ready yet. I switched themes, that should alleviate the color problems until I can get the custom pics and stuff ready.

lates
MC
MC
Thursday, October 31, 2002 04:56:23 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

I'm a... Erinyes?

What the heck is one of those when it's at home?
Silverbolt
Thursday, October 31, 2002 04:52:52 PM
IP: 62.7.77.144

I would be a Sphinx. Happy Halloween!
Niamhgold
Thursday, October 31, 2002 04:33:19 PM
IP: 206.41.199.31

Hey I got a dragon. Fun ^_^

Happy Belated Birthday Warpmind and Lady Mystic! May you both have unbelievable good luck, best of times and anything else you want. :)

Just lurking otherwise. If anyone wants me I'll be in the CR's all concealing shadows.
Winterwolf
Seattle, WA
Thursday, October 31, 2002 04:28:46 PM
IP: 198.49.222.246

Mooncat> New Legends:

About the Reviews and comments board - the ez-board color scheme is unreadable unless I highlight the text.

Leo
Thursday, October 31, 2002 04:14:56 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Hey guys, click on my name and take the quiz to find out what mythical creature you would most likely be. I'm a succubus. hehehe
Godiva - [renees.prater@verizon.net]
Thursday, October 31, 2002 03:29:31 PM
IP: 67.224.56.43

GARGOYLES: NEW LEGENDS would like to invite you to view the premiere episode of our first season.

Our Halloween Treat to Gargoyle fans everywhere waits for you at our website.

http://members.cox.net/lunafelis/Index.html

or click the link below.

We hope you will enjoy our efforts to create new legends in the Gargoyles universe.

Mooncat
GNL Admin

Mooncat - [GARGOYLES: NEW LEGENDS]
Thursday, October 31, 2002 02:36:32 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Sorry to double post but I have to say this.

Demona May would you like a tissue to clean up that mess you made on your pic?
Silverbolt
Thursday, October 31, 2002 01:02:08 PM
IP: 62.7.104.55

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! *Howls at the moon* Happy Halloween people *Throws Chocolate and sweets into the room*

I just saw Lilo and Stitch at the cinema yesterday and I don’t know why but I got a weird idea for an advert if that blue thing got a TV show.

(Goliath and Elisa are looking at each other at the head of Hunters Moon)

Elisa: You how I feel about you… right?
Goliath: How we both feel.
(Neither notices a blue creature crawling up the tower they’re in, it jumps on top of Goliath and falls down onto his face just as Elisa jumps up and kisses Goliath, but instead she kisses Stitch’s ass. She opens her eyes and screams, Goliath drops her in shock and she falls on the floor. Stitch gives her a sly lovy duvy before running off laughing his head off.)
Elisa: (Pushes Goliath out of the way angrily, whilst rubbing her ass and shakes her fist at the escaping monster) Get you OWN TV show, you little freak!

(I need to take my medication more often)

I was thinking about the whole Delilah/Samson thing in Timedancer and I’m beginning to think that they WILL become a couple, not because of their names but because Samson doesn’t know her, therefore not knowing his relationship with her and also he said he wanted to see more of her. ;P (Please say she’s going to be in one of the last parts of this season? Or is she going to be like the original Delilah and only have a small part?)

Mooncat> good luck with the New Legends series btw I look forward to reading it. And you’re featuring Delilah and I wasn’t informed? *Mutter, mutter* Now THAT was one garg I would gladly do.

DPH> And here’s the easiest way to make Anne Robinson laugh. Make tactful comments on the Welsh, including something like what doesn’t make you Welsh etc. Someone over here once did and it was the first time she laughed, or even smiled for that matter in the whole series.

Barracuda> Hi Bara! Does this mean you’ll be taking a more active role in this Comment Room now? << And the whole legal topless thing is a bonus. >> Lucky git! Wish it was legal here… though it would be a bit chilly : (

Leo: <<BBC without the boobs>> Wha? The BBC doesn’t have boobs in it! Uh… this IS the British Broad Cast we’re talking about isn’t it? (Groans that Angus Deton has been sacked from have I got news for you.)

Now I’ve got to go finish off my homework, *Sigh* not much of a holiday for me this week. Then out with the bucket of water ready for the unwanted trick or treaters. They’re NOT egging my house like they did last year! Grr… hate them!

Oh well that’s all from me for now.

So goodnight out there… Whatever you are!

MWUHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*cough, cough*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Silverbolt - [silverbolt2012@hotmail.com]
EnglandThursday, October 31, 2002 12:53:32 PM
IP: 62.7.104.55

~~~~OOOOooooOOOOOooooOOOOoooooOOOO!!! BOO!!!! HEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEEE!!!!!
Demona May Stephens - [realdemona@yahoo.com]
the Insane White Vampgoyle, Click on my name and get a surprize!
Thursday, October 31, 2002 09:05:44 AM
IP: 209.208.54.55

PATRICK AND FIRE STORM - You people are now officially beginning to scare me. :)
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, October 31, 2002 07:15:02 AM
IP: 65.57.58.64

And it is now halloween -- Tonight is the night the Gargoyles can go out among humans and not be noticed...

In reality it is the night you can throw your excess baggage into the fire and take leave of it.
silvadel
Thursday, October 31, 2002 02:06:13 AM
IP: 208.59.247.9

Forgot to mention this earlier, but I got my LSAT score on Sunday. Did pretty well, actually, better than I did on the practice exams this summer. Now I can watch as the law school brochures roll in...and promptly turn them all down.

Tried to install the latest version of MATLAB today...lazy ass programmers didn't even make a real mac port, they just burned the disc with a copy of X11 and said "you're on your own". Grrrr.

***MAC RANT***

I would love to know who started the myth that macs aren't upgradeable (well, I'd like to know who started a lot of mac myths, but right now that one is bugging me). They use the same hard drives as everyone else, same types of RAM, same physical PCI/PCMCIA/AGP slots. Same printers, scanners, USB, firewire, CD burners, hell, even floppy drives (at least if you bother to get one for your mac).

All that's different on the mac is the driver. No driver = no mac version, just like no driver for windows = no windows version. Its true that there are fewer drivers for various hardware upgrades available for mac, but that isn't even close to the same as saying they aren't upgradeable.

The girl my roommate is dating said "macs are easy to upgrade! Just throw it out and buy a new one." I think she shut her up when he pulled open the door of his G4 tower and popped in a hard drive with not a single screw.

***END MAC RANT***

Mooncat: <<*can* you upgrade a Apple product>>: Of course! Do you really think us mac users would be so stupid as to drop as much as $10,000 on a system that we couldn't add to (no, my system didn't cost that much)? The degree of upgrading that can be done depends on which system you buy. In general, iMacs and iBooks are really only designed to have user-upgradeable RAM and Airport card. If you really get into the guts then you void your hardware warranty or extended Applecare warranty. But that didn't stop my roommate from ripping apart his iBook and putting in a bigger hard drive (yes, it works fine). More importantly, though, its a lot easier to add functionality through the USB and firewire ports on a mac than it is on windows, because its true plug and play. I've used my iBook with external burners, hard drives, and video display adapters. No problems. The G4 tower is the easiest tower I've EVER seen for upgrading. check out www.apple.com/powermac/expansion Fully upgradeable RAM, media drives, PCI cards, AGP graphics card, up to 4 hard drives...well, those are the current ones. You could easily get an older tower for cheeeep(TM), though, slap in a superdrive, and replace the drive as needed. The catch is this: Apple only allows certain dvd writers to work with its software. I think its a Pioneer A04 or A05. But that's now, and a lot can change in a year.

Spacebabie: <<Josh made a “woot!” to me that sounds like a train whistle>>: Nah, sounds more like a woot. <<Sleep is something to be treasured>>: Amen! <<What straight villian would wear bright pastel colors?>>: Who said anything about pastels? <<Are you trying to get Josh to visit your fair Country again?>>: Its working.

Kathy: <>: I had a few tapes that I burned to CD...boy was that a pain in the ass. Video to DVD isn't gonna be much better. The easiest (though slowest) way is gonna be a real-time feed to your video capture card from your VCR.

Warpmind: <<puffing on a quite substantial Cuban cigar>>: And sometimes its NOT just a cigar. <<Somewhere around the corner there's a winning lottery ticket with my name on it>>: Don't hold yer breath. <<You'd be amazed at the many interesting facial expressions I get>>: Why? Canon makes good printers.

Patrick: <<Angela sure ends up in chains quite a bit during the World Tour. Elisa, too, for that matter>>: Look out Mme. Destine! <<If we're keeping score>>: Were we? <<slowly getting my schedule back to normal in the wake of the P.E. exam>>: Go you! I hope you pass. <<unless, of course, I decide to go back for grad school at some point>>: I wouldn't call the GRE a "big test".

Fire Storm: <<No I'm not!>>: Sure, he's just the sensitive guy who likes poetry and cooking...wait a second... <<Canada issued a travel warning to the US!>>: Come on. If you live in Canada, what could possibly bring you here anyway?

DPH: <<However long it takes to write them plus time to finish up breakdowns>>: At least you can say that's an exact time frame 8-)

Gside: <<unfortunately our literal boobs go covered>>: No, what's unfortunate is that our metaphorical ones aren't. <<It isn't so terrible, if you've never been anywhere else>>: Fair enough. <<exclusive or>>: Do you mean "A or B but not both"? <<With the wonders of cheese, of course>>: That's gonna hurt. <<Being a machine that can only run on its give tracks, or a hairless soft kitty?>>: No comment.

SLEEP.

32. I will not fly into a rage and kill a messenger who brings me bad news just to illustrate how evil I really am. Good messengers are hard to come by.

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, October 31, 2002 01:56:27 AM
IP: 64.161.24.240

At one time canada and the US were very good friends and fairly similar to each other. However at the beginning of the 1980s, we got Reagan. In essence Canada went the way Hillary Clinton would have wanted us to go(Socialized Medicine, WEAK Immigration, etc). In fact the democrats would love it if the USA were more like Canada. However that is not the path the USA took and now there is quite a gulf between the two countries.

I am quite glad the USA didnt follow that road actually.
silvadel
Thursday, October 31, 2002 01:51:00 AM
IP: 208.59.247.9

Imzadi> <<Plenty of boobs on American TV, both literally and metaphorically>>: But unfortunately our literal boobs go covered.
<<It's an interesting place to visit, but I do not think I would like to live here>>: It isn't so terrible, if you've never been anywhere else.
<<Doesn't help>>: Right. Anyway, XORs and XNORs are logic gates, specifically exclusive or and its complement. DSD is short for Digital System Design, a course I am taking.
<<But they could do it subtly>>: I can't really see a subtle way without too many side effects for other programs.
<>: With the wonders of cheese, of course.

Spacebabie> <<So I guess the mafia does NOT have any connections>>: No, apparently not.
<<Josh made a �woot!� to me that sounds like a train whistle>>: Ah. But which is better? Being a machine that can only run on its give tracks, or a hairless soft kitty?

Kathy> <<So how is your (collective) day?>>: Not too bad. slept in, went to my one lecture, killed the Ravager.

Warpmind> <<Been busy playing NWN and stuff>>: I'll get there eventually. With the ravager gone, I just have to get rid of Mellisan four times with elemental and planar interruptions.
<>: Same with my brother. And you don't even have a BFA.

Niamhgold> <>: Man.
<<We're a bunch of dorks>>: Yes, you are. But I have 80% of a Rorschach costume. What does that say about me? And if I use replacements I have now, I could say I'm Holstein, Rorschach's more mentally unbalanced cousin.

And the mp3 is brought to you by a color. Speed King, by Deep Purple. And a bonus video in my eden account.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:27:07 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

Spacebabie - <Warning incoming Rant> It starts with animals then it progresses to taking on humans. <Sleep is something to be treasured> That's a big understatement.

Ladymystic and Warpmind>Happy belated Birthday

Imzadi - <You really start to understand how they felt and just how brilliant the grand design of the Gargoyles universe really is.> I can't watch some of the episodes again. Yes, Imzadi, now you can bite me for my cd burner. I'm recording music from an old cassette to my computer so I can burn it to a CD. It's by an artist called "Larry Norman". I want to return the cassette to the person I borrowed it from years ago and the guy is going to become a missionary in Thailand (I believe that is the name of the country). The music is from the 60s/70s and the songs are 3-4 minutes. I've only gone through about 50% of one side of the tape and already have 8 songs.

Lain - <hey, its legal for women to go topless here,> *Makes mental note to carry censor vision if he ever visits Canada*
BTW, check your email. <<an you at least tell which email addresses of mine are being spoofed?>: @yahoo.com> Ok, is it dph_of_rules with @yahoo.com [yes, I have another yahoo email address]? I don't send email out from that account any more and I've been getting 20+ spams a day lately to that email address.

Leo - <Only 2 more eps in TD Season 4?> The upcoming season 4 of Gargoyles and Pendragon series are LONGER than the season 3 of the series.

Airwalker - <About how long after this season ends will we get into the first Season of BAD GUYS? > However long it takes to write them plus time to finish up breakdowns.

Mooncat - <The DVD burner drives are now 'cheap' enough> This sounds like the wait I remember going through for the price of CD burners to go down, when I was going through high school.

GSide - :p I'm a senior in college so I can register the first day. Unfortunately, I haven't spent enough time with an advisor to be sure of the classes I should take.

4 weeks and 2 days since I sent my application for re-admission and still no word back. At least, the registar's office says I'm admitted.

Leo - <Then there's the dinner conversation with brooklyn where Harthoth mentions that Brooklyn's 19th century visit (Brooklyn's first) was his "*third* time cronologically" meaning there is a yet unaccounted for visit between Brooklyn's arrival in 6000BC and the 19th century.> Let me give me breakdown of Brooklyn's visits to Egypt so far: Sun and the Serpent, parts 1 - 4 - from 6074 BC to 6071 BC was Brooklyn's 2nd visit to Egypt from his POV and the first chronologically. For Old Time's Sake - 1891 was Brooklyn's 1st visit to Egypt from his POV and the second chronologically. Sun and the Serpent, parts 1 - 4 - July 23-25, 1952 was Brooklyn 3rd visit to Egypt from his POV and the third chronologically. The chronological order could change if a future story is released.

My rules for playing the Weakest Link:

2. I will vote off any person who takes more than 5 seconds to answer a question, regardless of how many questions the person got right. Either you know the answer or you don't.
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:40:55 PM
IP: 204.94.193.50

FS - Note a senior government official goes on about how "unfriendly" the US is being. Not "evil", or "criminal", but "Unfriendly". I love Canada. :D

Remember, it isn't a stereotype if it's TRUE!

Oh, and FS, please drop me a line ASAP. Email address is below.
Gunjack "DIE DIE DIE!!!" Valentine - [miphsingleton@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:54:56 PM
IP: 192.133.129.3

Leo - yes Cox is my cable company too. I've been with them forever, but they only recently switched, internally, from being with Road Runner, to being their own cable internet provider. In fact, I came home from the Gathering to find all my ISP stuff, like e-mail addy's and web space, had switched from RR to Cox, and my mail was bouncing all to heck and gone.

Firestorm - *lol*

Birds of Prey
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Okay, it's very hokey, like a modern, and dark version of the 1960s Batman live action series, yet it really pleases me because of this hokey feel as much as despite it. It's a superhero(ine) tv series, and it's fun, and has nice looking actors. And occassionally has moments that have the punch of a freight train. There was no last minute save for Guy, and when he died, I just cried my eyes out. And Harley, she was excellently mad, bad, and dangerous to know. She's scary *^_^*

Next episode. Oboy! Dinah's mom! Now is it her birth mom or her foster mom is what I want to know. Because if it's who it is buzzed to be, I'm just so bouncy! :: bounce, bounce! ::

Mooncat
Mooncat - [<---- GARGOYLES NEW LEGENDS]
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:16:05 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Ok, now THIS is interesting: Canada issued a travel warning to the US!
Fire Storm
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:04:55 PM
IP: 66.72.182.247

Patrick Toman: <It's interesting, actually... Angela sure ends up in chains quite a bit during the World Tour. Elisa, too, for that matter.>
And, ya know, I think they started to REALLY like it, ESPECIALLY Angela! ;)
Broadway: "Angela, it almost seemed like you WANTED to be caputured back there!"
Angela: "... That's not true! I hate being like that! Tied up, having someone completely in control of me, the feel of steel clamps against my skin..." Angela, a little sweating, grabs a hold of Broadway. "Who am I kidding! DOMINATE ME! RESTRAIN ME!" Angela pulls Broadway closer to her, desire and hunger burning in her eyes.
Broadway: "Um..." Broadway gulps. "Can't we just hold hands?"
Angela is just frozen in disbelief. Soon, she let's go of Brodway and turns around in a huff.
Angela: "Bet your gay!"
Broadway: "No I'm not!"
Fire Storm
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 09:07:31 PM
IP: 66.72.182.247

Oh yeah, I noticed something. My IP addresses no longer start out 172...., They start with 68 now.
Hmm Mooncat, yours starts with 68 as well. :)
Leo
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 08:56:01 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Impfac - Thanks for participating in the early brain storm sessions. Your scene with Jon watching TV was kept mostly intact. It is too bad you had to drop out, but every cloud has a silver lining. Ellen and Allain were able to take over the scenes with Delilah, and their writing has added a very rich flavor to the story mix. So it all works out in the end.

Tomorrow we'll unveil Gargoyles: New Legends, and I hope it will be an good read for everyone.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 07:36:19 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

I got my cable modem up and running today. COX High Speed Internet Service. Would have rather had DSL but we live outside the 3 line-mile radius from an exchange limit. No new Verison exchanges have been planned so far. :P
Leo
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 06:58:12 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Gargoyles marathon > "Grief" is on right now. And before that was "M.I.A." It's interesting, actually... Angela sure ends up in chains quite a bit during the World Tour. Elisa, too, for that matter.

Computers > If we're keeping score... at home, I alternate between a Compaq Presario 5280 at my desk and an IBM Thinkpad 770. At work, dude, I've got a Dell. :P

Niahmgold > The art show coordinator at G2001 was Cindy Kinnard, aka Eden.

kathy > I agree with you 100% on the "You're watching..." and "Coming up next..." stuff on the TV screen.

What have I been up to IRL? Well, right now I'm slowly getting my schedule back to normal in the wake of the P.E. exam. Yay, no more studying. And I think I did fairly well, so hopefully this will be the last big exam I ever have to take... unless, of course, I decide to go back for grad school at some point.

But for now... the books are back on the shelves, my desk is clean again, and my evenings and weekends are once again free to write and plot evil. ;)
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 06:46:08 PM
IP: 67.38.244.202

Oops, particlalry is supposed to be particularly

All is safe, return to your homes in an orderly manner. Thank you.
Impfac
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 05:09:31 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

MC> I'm glad our work is finally coming to fruition. I dropped out after we butted heads and some plot lines didn't mesh with some of my vies, but I'm proud of the contributions I made. Delilah is going to be one fun chick >:D And the little complexity's we crafted together ought be quite engaging. I pray I get my robocop series inspired by my work with the whole new legends team will someday take shape (hey, *I* have to do all the writing on that one >:( ).

Congrats to the rest of the team and particulalry the active writers (hehe, my 1 page scene is a sorry contribution :) We all have made something to take pride in.

This will be good stuff people.

-Demona's Pet, aka Impfac (look up my stories! Please! ;)

Impfac - [impfac@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 05:07:42 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

Oops. Here's that clickie link:
Niamhgold
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 01:17:12 PM
IP: 206.41.199.31

** Niamhgold enters briefly **

Yes, I *have* been lurking for quite a long while. One reason is due to the kickback and workload imposed by a first semester of junior year. Additionally, I'd picked up one freelance job, one regular part time job, and a Peer Career Advisorship position, and those, plus 18 credits and the fact that I'm trying not to aggravate my RSI keeps me from my normal load of emailing/posting. I can't even promise that this is the start of regular posting again...there are those of you who are much more diligent about that than myself ;)

Haven't had much of a life IRL here, either. However, I did go to the MICA Halloween party last Saturday as Hawkgirl from the Justice League. Follow my link, or go to http://www.geocities.com/fluff_astrid/images/justice for pictures. We're a bunch of dorks!

Basically, I'm just popping in to say I'm okay, that I do miss you guys, and that I am still available at my email address. I'm just hugely busy, so forgive me :)

Happy Birthday to Lady Mystic and Warpmind!

BTW, can anyone remember who the Art Show Coordinator was at the Los Angeles Gathering, 2001? Much appreciated.

Adios
Niamhgold
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 01:15:56 PM
IP: 206.41.199.31

*Warpmind strolls in, puffing on a quite substantial Cuban cigar and grinning.*
Well, after a long absence, I'm back. Worry not, folks, I've kept somewhat up to date - just been lurking for a couple weeks. Been busy playing NWN and stuff. :) And, hey, hey, I got a JOB! Well, technically, it's a sort of trial run - they don't pay me in this initial period, but I still get my SS benefits. And when (if) they hire me, I'll get a bit MORE each month. Which'll come in handy to pay off my credit card debt, acquired when I got the computer and the washer... :p Oh, well - the worst thing that can happen is that I rack up a little extra debt on the interest... Not a really big deal. (Hey, I gotta stay positive, right? Somewhere around the corner there's a winning lottery ticket with my name on it.) For now, I make signs at an advertisement company. You know, those big billboards, or those window banners that are slapped straight on the glass... It's more interesting than it sounds, since I have already learned quite a bit about how peeling excess foil can be quite a b*tch. And I've not yet suffered a single injury at work, either, despite handling scalpels every day for almost two weeks now. Maybe they called me Jack about 105 years ago... };)

Anyway, thanks to those who congratulated me on my birthday. I am now 23 years old, and hoping for a few hundred times as long eventually...

Moncat: Oooh, you have an HP Pavilion, too? Mine's a Pavilion 432 - a wondrous machine that I'm actually *pleased* with. It even came with a digital camera which so far works well. :) AND a photoprinter. (Which, for the hell of it, I tell the curious came from Canon. You'd be amazed at the many interesting facial expressions I get.)

Spacebabie: Ayup, it is the era of the Scorpio again. No wonder I feel so... energetic and Machiavellian of late. };)

And that, I guess, is that for now.

Catch y'all later, eh?
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmindATtiscaliDOTno]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 01:00:17 PM
IP: 213.142.69.199

Way way too much to do and the wrong amount of time to do it in. Plus, the weather here can't decide if it's cold and overcast or not. Very unsettling.

Ironwolf/Anon. > Unless you have a source at Mutant Enemy who's given you the master storyline for both Angel and Buffy please don't state your opinion as fact. It's annoying. Also, the shift key is our friend. Please use it when you start a new sentence.

Spacebabie > Sounds like your kitty barber is mentally disturbed. Hopefully, he'll get some help while he's in the slammer. Do you really have scorpians? Yuck.

Birthday Twinkies (with candles) for those who've earned them!

Mooncat > What you're going through is why I'm waiting at least another year before getting a DVD burner. (And I thought converting my old radio tapes to MP3s was a pain in the tail)

Jack is at the vet's today getting snipped. Poor little guy. It's weird being on the other side of the desk for this sort of thing though. A cat neuter is a five minute procedure tops (not including knocking him out) and that's if you're dawdling. This receptionist is going on like it's major surgery. "Are you sure you don't want expensive pain killers for after the procedure?" Yeah right. You want animals to be a little sore so they don't hurt themselves rocketing around after they've been worked on. Gah. Sorry venting. But you take animals to a Veterinarian not a Pediatrician for a reason.

I missed the Gargoyles marathon. No cable. The logo thing would have annoyed me too. In fact the entire bleed over "You're Watching..." or "So in So is Up Next!" is really getting aggravating. I generally know what I'm watching when I switch on the tube and stations can take thirty seconds to run a promo for what's coming next. It's just pushing the market for television shows on DVD so you can actually see what you were meant to without the persistant interruptions.

Green Baron > Stay warm in Kosovo! And be safe.

So how is your (collective) day?

kathy
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:36:27 PM
IP: 66.167.192.234

buffy angel spoilers

the big bad in buffy is not the same for angel. yep 2 end of the worlds happeining at the same time. one in sunnydale and one in la. I dont know if they were orginaly supposed to be one and the upn wb thing screwed that up or what, but the "evil" is seperate now. You know what would be funny if angel and buffy both failed and the 2 evils took each other out for the right to destroy the world. "I shall destroy the world. No I shall" sorry just my warped little mind at work.
Anonymous
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:13:26 AM
IP: 167.1.129.100

Do you hear that clickety clack sound? That is the sound of little scorpion feet scurrying on the ground. It is the time of the Scorpio’s once again. Be afraid.

*************Warning incoming Rant****************************************
There was some sicko in Deland who took a stray cat and cuts it’s whiskers short and then took the scissors and trimmed the cat’s tail, cause he claims the cat stole his key. @$$hole! He is getting hit up with felony charges. The cat is receiving medical care and will be put up for adoption soon.
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Leo<<<Adelphia? I thought Orlando was Time/Warner>>>Not at my house…Lousynogoodpieceof….

Patrick<<<stupid VCR decided to tape in SP instead of EP>>>Hugs. I hate it when that happens.

Firestorm<<<Is it me, or did they edit it?>>>I’m guessing that they did. Well at least they SHOWED it.

Gside<<<We jusdt lost to Syracuse, the only other team that might have been worse than us.>>>So I guess the mafia does NOT have any connections.<<<Bear? I don't think Imzadi's a boneless kitty.>>>Josh made a “woot!” to me that sounds like a train whistle

Rolfe<<<Does anyone have any idea if there are DVD release plans for Gargoyles?>>>Sometime in 2003

Josh<<<then decided to go to sleep instead.>>>Sleep is something to be treasured.<<<someone in this apartment is gettin' some...and it ain't me. ::is bitter:: >>>There there. You are preaching to the choir.<<<That's nothing. Part of the toilet is called the ballcock.>>>Yup I’m pretty sure if we looked we could find a lot of things that have a part that sound’s dirty…or funny.<<<they did have black spies too, in all fairness.>>>Yeah but Cordy’s response was good.<<<HAHAH no thanks.>>>Heh I wrote about the recent Gathering.<<<Who said anything about gay?>>>What straight villian would wear bright pastel colors?<<<well, golf does have a slightly larger paying audience.>>>But golf is so boring.

Lain<<<yup. all boobs all the time. hey, its legal for women to go topless here, what can i say :D>>>Are you trying to get Josh to visit your fair Country again?

Mooncat>>>Oooooh I can’t wait. Now I actually have something to do on Halloween.

Ladymystic and Warpmind>>>Happy belated Birthday
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:47:08 AM
IP: 67.24.19.107

Hi Josh,

Yeah, my computer was pretty good when I got her, despite being an evil HP Pavilion 9800. I had them set her up with extra memory, and larger hard drive, and switched out the video card for an ATI Radeon All In Wonder so I could capture and stuff, and all in all she's stood the test of time, except that the evil system restore software was utter crap, and I had to upgrade to XP just to get her working again after a fiasco last November.

The bit of tech I'm thinking will be bypassed in a year or so is the dvd writer itself, not the computer, if I decided to by a new system just for that. I'm not sure, but *can* you upgrade a Apple product, and switch out drives and such? I hadn't thought you could do that, as with component PCs.

Okay, tell me more oh Apple Guru *^_^* ... I am nothing if not easily fascinated by tech toys.

MC
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:30:53 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Watching Gargoyles all day has been fun. Seeing episode after episode really gave me an opportunity to study the character emotions and reactions. You really start to understand how they felt and just how brilliant the grand design of the Gargoyles universe really is.

Anyways...

Mooncat: Just some FYI stuff, not trying to troll or flame or whatever. <<all the attendant software I'd have to get for a different OS>>: Current iMacs come with LOTS of free software, almost everything you'd need to have it be a fully functional secondary system. Granted, you might need to download some new drivers for some of your peripherals. Oh, and don't forget piracy (disclaimer: I do not endorse piracy ;-)) <>: Also, there's virtual PC, which runs pretty smoothly on G4 chips (such as the iMac). I can actually run up to 11 different Windows environments simultaneously if I want, each with loads of windows-only programs, if need be. <<almost two years old now, and still on par with the majority of brand new computers>>: That's awesome that you got that kind of shelf life out of a PC. Must have been pretty cracked-out when you bought it. <<rather than drop a grand plus on a new computer just for something that next year will be bypassed by new tech>>: Well, not really. After all, you said yourself that your machine is two years old and still on par with current PC's. Why should an iMac be any different? Macs generally have a useable life of 5-6 years before they *can not* run the latest version of Apple's OS, sometimes even longer. Before OS X, there were 10 year old macs running OS 9.2.2. <<more easily add extra fancy polish before the rendering/finalizing ... which unfortunately is excruciatingly slow>>: G4 chips are specially optimized for this stuff, especially when running with Apple's movie editing/making programs. Pretty sweet to watch them "build" movies in real time. <<Yes Josh, your constant raving about the wonders of Apple is seeping into my wee kitty skull>>: WOOHOO! <<when I can't fight the to need to upgrade to a whole new system>>: I don't think there is ever a NEED for a windows user to switch to a mac system. It has to happen when either the user is fed up with Windows/Microsoft being dumb or there is some feature on the mac that they really like.

Lady Mystic: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

Airwalker: Good comments.

Barracuda: <>: He'd better! ;-)

Leo: <<BBC without the boobs>>: Plenty of boobs on American TV, both literally and metaphorically.

Lain: <<its legal for women to go topless here>>: Oddly enough, Canada just moved to the top of my list of places to move to.

Gside: <<Welcome to my world>>: It's an interesting place to visit, but I do not think I would like to live here. <<The opposite of an XOR>>: Doesn't help. <<They're probably too afraid of antitrust to do that blatantly>>: But they could do it subtly. The risk is there. <<Would you like a chinchilla to go with your kielbasa>>: I think so brain, but how will we get it to fit? <<wouldn't work well against large opaque things>>: Which is what this logo is.

And with that, I finish for the night.

31. All naive, busty tavern wenches in my realm will be replaced with surly, world-weary waitresses who will provide no unexpected reinforcement and/or romantic subplot for the hero or his sidekick.

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 02:19:37 AM
IP: 64.161.27.149

TEASER PAGE *^_^* Here is the link to New Legend's teaser page. It will be updated with more information as it becomes ready for public viewing.

http://members.cox.net/lunafelis/PREVIEW.html

thanks
Mooncat
Mooncat
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 01:07:56 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Imzadi> <<someone in this apartment is gettin' some...and it ain't me. ::is bitter::>>: Welcome to my world.
<<What's an XNOR?>>: The opposite of an XOR.
<<Beer holder>>: That too.
<<but your windows box runs the risk of Microsoft one day saying "no more netscape, only outlook">>: They're probably too afraid of antitrust to do that blatantly.
<<You're nuts>>: Very much so. Would you like a chinchilla to go with your kielbasa?
<<Huh?>>: Choo Choo Bear is a boneless cat from the webcomic Something Positive. And he now has a friend in the spanish speaking ex-love midget Pepito.
<<That only works if the logo is semi-transparent, no?>>: Nah, also works on subtitles. Though it wouldn't work well against large opaque things. But then I doubt anything would besides a hand touch up for every frame.
<<That must have been heavy!>>: You have no idea. Or maybe he just used the dictionary.

Happy Birthday Warpmind and Lady Mystic.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:04:31 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

Leo> Family Channel, yes, the Canadian version of the Disney channel. Aired them WITHOUT any commercial interruption and in order as well (same goes for every show currently on there). It was bliss, and damnit if I didn't tape them. They would occasionally flash a small 'F' logo if anything, and yes, it was nice, small, and unobtrusive. But they decided to take Gargoyles off in order to fit in so-called 'new programming', and they lose their Gargoyles license soon, so the show could be lost from that channel altogether.

BBC? Yeah, though it seems hard to get without getting the higher cable packages in my area, and thus, it's not worth it.

Lain> I agree, Canadian censorship, if any, is lax. Boobs and swear words galore, meaning a movie on a Canadian channel will rarely be edited for content. Which is great in all aspects but one, the fact it serves to degenerate our entire social structure and force our beloved Canada into chaos. But what the hell, it's fun, and the whole legal topless thing is a bonus.
The Barracuda
B.C., Canada
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 08:52:40 PM
IP: 208.181.156.210

well, i always used to watch gargs on ATV (atlantic television) when i got home from school. i distinctly remember lots of blood in "deadly force". we dont get a "canadian" version of the family channel, do we? i thought we just got the same thing as all you yanks.

barracuda>> <<God, I love Canadian television stations>> yaaay! go us! i especially like canadian news. i used to watch cnn just to make myself mad.. the cbc is so.. so.. *friendly* unfortunately, cbc radio is beginning to suck. finklemans 45s has GOT to go.. either that or finkleman needs a brain transplant :P

leo>> <<Dont you also get the "real" BBC as opposed to BBC America - "BBC without the boobs".?>> yup. all boobs all the time. hey, its legal for women to go topless here, what can i say :D

mooncat>> emaily.

lain>> <<GO WRITE YOUR ESSAY>> yessm..
lain
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 08:22:20 PM
IP: 65.93.76.99

I should have said: "*nice, small, unobtrusive* circle 'f' logo at the bottom right of the screen" :p
Leo
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 08:13:02 PM
IP: 172.137.161.62

Barracuda:< a Canadian channel that USED to play them never edited them at all, including the blood in Deadly Force.>Was it the Canadian "Family Channel". Most of the recordings shown at the Gatherig were taken from there (Circle 'f' logo at bottom right corner of the screen). They air ther shows without commercials as well, like AMC USED to. :P

<<God, I love Canadian television stations>>Dont you also get the "real" BBC as opposed to BBC America - "BBC without the boobs".? ;)
Leo
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 08:07:59 PM
IP: 172.137.161.62

*Mutter* Lucky americans getting a marathon, they don't even show gargoyles over here anymore.
Silverbolt - [silverbolt2012@hotmail.com]
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 07:07:21 PM
IP: 213.122.215.3

Hi people. I hope it's okay to mention this here, but if anyone is interested, the new fan project "Gargoyles: New Legends" will premiere very soon.

It not affliated with TGS, but it is a separate fan produced continuation of GARGOYLES, and will run in monthly episodes that are part of an ongoing story arc. It's written for a mature audience, so the S&P will be set for mature teen and adult readers. New Legends is a virtual "third season" taking place after the events of Hunters Moon.

We have some outstanding writing talents working on this project. Kimberly Towle, Ellen Stolfa, Allaine... just to name a few... And I think we've got a really bang up opening episode, and a story arc that will go in some very exciting directions.

Just thought I'd drop a word on this so people will know that New Legends is just around the corner.

Thanks for your time =)

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 06:18:52 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

For those seeking to make Gargoyles eps into DVDs, I in fact have bought such a product on the net. There is a guy who has made City Of Stone eps 1-4 and the entire run of The Goliath Chronicles on homemade DVDs (and I believe he used a Mac, Josh). I bought a set of each and am impressed with the quality, maybe at least an 8 or 9 out of a total of 10. Except for that little Toon Disney semi-transparent logo that pops up occasionally, they seem pretty good (can't tell if they were edited or not as I haven't seen TGC since the orginal run in '96, but knowing Toon Disney...). They sometimes act up when I try to either fast forward or skip chapters, but hey, why would I want to skip through any Gargoyles episode? And the homemade covers for the DVD cases he provides are quality computer made that seem almost professional.

It will help fill the gap until Disney actually releases the eps on a true DVD, which hopefully won't be edited.

And speaking about editing, and the marathon I too am missing out on, it sucks I know. But the funny thing is, a Canadian channel that USED to play them never edited them at all, including the blood in Deadly Force. God, I love Canadian television stations. But of course, before I even decided to record them (thinking "they would never take Gargs of the air") they did, and I lost out.

Damnit.
The Barracuda
B.C., Canada
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 05:50:03 PM
IP: 208.181.156.210

******TGS COMMENTS******

Only 2 more eps in TD Season 4? And just when we got back to Brooklyn, Sata, and Harthoth. :(

The seasons just get shorter and shorter.
Season 1: 19 eps
Season 2: 18 eps
Season 3: 15 eps
Season 4: 13 eps??

Is it because of not enough man-hours? Or breaking in new staff? Are there "lost" episodes that never got compleated because of time constraints? (like in season 3 - it seemed something was missing)

Leo
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 05:31:15 PM
IP: 172.156.165.130

Forgotten> Comments on the editing: Little kids watch this and Disney felt the blood was just too much. I'm talking VERY little children. Sure, they clipped a few scenes and omitted the word terrorist, but so what? How can 3 seconds removed ruin one of the greatest shows ever? It doesn't for Impfac. Now they show Deadly Force but you complain because they clipped the violence. To me, losing less than 1% of an episode is worth getting to see it. I’m not a purist.

I personally am thankful, not angry, with Disney for giving me gargoyles, and this marathon. As for the logos? Annoying, yes, much too large, but I'll recover. I watch gargoyles, I don’t watch what isn’t there.

Sorry to sound mean, but to let such TINY things ruin the show for you is incomprehensible to me. I love gargoyles and am not in the slightest annoyed by what Disney has chosen to do. God bless for what they made, not curse them for what they cut.

Please, I am not addressing anyone, just expressing my feelings. If you are offended, please remember I am not trying to bash anyone, just express a contrary opinion that I happen to carry.

BTW, to those asking for tapes: I missed a big chunk, since I didn't start recording until 9PM last night. That's six hours, 12 episodes missing, and THAT is an omission to regret.

All the best.

-Der Komrade Stalin

Impfac - [impfac@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 05:04:59 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

Gargoyles thoughts>

Aside from City of Stone, I think the single best, most complex episode of gargoyles is Vows. It captures the most emotion of any episode, particularly the sheer heartbreak of Goliath, and the complex relationship between Demona, younger and older, and Goliath.

It is clear from The Mirror that Demona is far from over Goliath. She still loves him. But she is unable to mesh reality with her fantasy of Goliath as the impossible return of the one she loved so dearly that will at last make her complete. But he does not hate humans; he is not hardened from a millennia of cruelty; She has changed, he has not. We never see the true complexity of Demona, we do not see her true heartbreak at losing her love, but we know she is in pain. This pain is expressed as rage, and over 1,000 years the rage consumes her until reality is now filtered through the absolute need to release her pain and guilt through revenge. The HUMANS, always the HUMANS. She cannot acknowledge, EVER, responsibility for the massacre and the loss of Goliath is far too painful to accept the guilt. She took her pain and projected it. That is the tragedy behind Demona.

But what of Goliath? He has lost his true love-and it was true, deep, and passionate. He suffers constantly from the loss. As far as he is concerned, it was yesterday that she was his. This grief reaches its climax in Vows.

What of young Demona? She, in the view of her elder, is the poor, naive self that trusted the humans. Her disgust at her naivete becomes rage. Rather than communicate anything meaningful she becomes violent. Notice that the younger has a voice not hardened by time.

The suffering of Demona is shown at the end, with the famous password, ALONE. She is not a villain, not evil, she is a tortured soul, driven by her madness-the pathological inability to accept what she’s done-to lash out ay nearly anyone. She can never be close with another-save MacBeth, whom she hates the most.

Dynamic characters with true emotion are what made Gargoyles the single best television show I’ve ever seen. That is why we still write tomes in homage to the show we all loved. You can never exhaust exploring the huge, dynamic world that was created for us, and the people we can hardly view as fictional for their sheer emotional complexity that in spite of the overwhelming fiction will ALWAYS ring true. Some tales are indeed timeless.
Impfac - [impfac@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 04:52:02 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

**CURRENT TGS EPISODE COMMENTS**

I'm a bit suprised that we're reaching the end of the 4th Season of FUTURE TEN.... uh I mean, TIMEDANCER! It seems to have gone by so quickly. About how long after this season ends will we get into the first Season of BAD GUYS?

As for the story itself, its got a lot of good things going for it. It finally shifts the series from being FUTURE TENSE S1 back to being TIMEDANCER S4 and it shifts back to what is probably the most interesting of all the various TIMEDANCER/TGS in General plots - Harthoth/Apep.

Some things did stand out to me from the very beginning - in the very first paragraph of the story Isfet implies that once Harthoth finishes serving Apep, he gets to walk away from everything alive. But all the previous stories including THE SUN AND THE SERPENT 4 parter in S2 have the deal between Harthoth and Apep worked out that the price of Harthoth's cooperation is Meryt being given a living body and Harthoth having his life come to an end.

I understand that he has been given motivation to stay alive in that he has gotten involved with Gwen and has a kid waiting to be hatched (a daughter to be more specific and given some background comments in REQUIEM) so he might not be as suicidal as he was when he made the original deal but wouldn't Apep be inclinded to honor the deal he made back in 1952? And wouldn't Isfet, who loves to cause pain, want to emphasis that to him? So why switch it around now?

I did like the reintroduction of the Gwen subplot in Samson and Brooklyn's conversation but I thought that it was a little to convinient to the plot that Samson was so willing to bring it up with Brooklyn after keeping it a secret for so long. He knows that Brooklyn is as concerned with Gwen as Angela is and I think that he would be as careful mentioning her around him as he would be around his parents.

What I did like was his bit of indifference - it adds to classic Gargoyle tradition. She's his biological sister but except for the fact that his parents emphasised it, it doesn't mean much to him. She hasn't been around most of his life after all and with the age difference added in he probably shouldn't care that much about her. Artus should feel much closer to her than Samson does since he would have known her longer and developed some sort of bond with her.

I liked that we finally got a bit more of a view of the Timedancer Family; Graeme and Ariana have largely been absent or so deep in the background that they might as well have been absent from the stories. When we consider that a large chunk of S2 and S3 was revolving around them indirectly (the pregancy and then the hatching) I thought that overall they didn't show up in S4 nearly enough. They don't even need that much airtime - what we got here was more than enough for the characters at their current age.

I did like that it looks like we'll get some airing of Sata's secret friendship and contact with Harthoth soon but I'm not so crazy about how it seems to be presented like she's done something horrible. I got the impression from Brooklyn's "I'll still love you even if your a criminal" love declaration that the story is going to present the secret as a bad thing on Sata's part, something she has to be sorry about. I hope that secrets on all sides can come out including what Sata might think Brooklyn is hiding from her (Pandora, Various Timedances in S3, his shoulder wound) and that the situation is evened out so that neither one is really right and neither one is really wrong. Because thats how they both really are but the scene seems to give an advantage to Brooklyn over Sata.

By the way, why doesn't Alex recognize Harthoth as the Gargoyle who saved him from being drained way back in S2 when he sees the message rather than just having a feeling about it near the end of the story? The night he met and promised a favor to Harthoth should be one that would be burned into his memory considering what happened to his daughter - so why have it come up as mainly an afterthought?

The dream communication to Angela was a pretty good way to expand the Gwen subplot although I wish that it had been made less apparent that it was probably a magical message to her. It would have been better for just Angela to have the dreams and while suspecting magic also have the possibility of it being her subconscious making some of it up - that would have blurred everything a bit and leave the situation with some misdirection rather than having her ready to jump into action. It would also have been nice towards leading Angela to reaching an epiphany over her relationship with Gwen and why it turned out the way it did.

I also thought that Angela's reaction to the Quake in the flashback was a bit out of character. I have a hard time accepting that she would see Avalon as home after having lived a good chunk of her life in NYC, including developing her family over there. Life on Avalon should have become distant to her due to the time difference. Her willingness to abandon everything so easily and to drag her family back to Avalon seemed a bit forced. I don't blame the story entirely for it since past stories do have her and her family head back to Avalon so that they could be alive in FUTUER TENSE - its just that the rationale that she uses to do seems so out of character for her.

I did like Meryts reintroduction here although it would have been nice if she had been as out of it as she was when we saw her last time. I wonder if she'll get the time to mention that Sata left her behind to rot (so to speak) in that cell? It was out of character for Sata to do so when it happened but I'd like to see what the reprecussions, if any, will be here.

I'm a bit suprised Serena showed up here for a minute considering that she'd have been much more useful in the last episode. I did like the implication of her being uncomfortable thinking about Alex's first marriage. What it did make me wonder though is if it were a good marriage or not? The implication up to this point was that Alex married a mortal (given the description of his son Hal who seems older and more mortal than his Half Sisters) who died and then later met and married Serena. Here he seems to dismiss his previous marriage like it was nothing to him just so he can give his current wife some romantic line before he goes off to a battle he doesn't really need to go to. Dissing his first wife, that felt like it came out of nowhere.

And why is he going on this trip? He does have a company to run and besides since when does he HAVE to take orders from Artus to go with them? Doesn't Artus have to ask him rather than order him around?

All in all it was a pretty good first part - especially the very end of it. The art was great (I loved the Brooklyn/Twins photo and the Meryt/Brooklyn reunion photo but shouldn't Isfet have a metal arm in the center photo?). I can't wait to see part 2 and how all this is going to end out considering that its only 3 parts. I hope that we don't end in a cliffhanger or that at the very least its something that won't drive us crazy since its going to be a while before TIMEDANCER S5 starts up.

Overall in the Season though it was more FUTURE TENSE than TIMEDANCER. I felt that some things that come up here could have used some more buildup than they got in the season because Brooklyn turned into a bit player in his own series in the episodes prior to this one. Angela and the dreams, Brooklyn and his concern over Sata and her secrets (and visa versa), Alex and Serena, Payne and the Gate - some of that did get an honorable mention way back when but got lost in the grand race to make Jr. Lite look like something more than the useless puppet he turned out to be.

The sudden shift back to Harthoth, while not unwelcomed, feels a bit like a 90 degree turn since we just came off from episode after episode dealing with the Teen Unseelie. This episode makes all the Unseelie ones before it feel a lot like filler. I hope that in the next season of TIMEDANCER the series will stay firmly focused on Brooklyn and Sata rather than on the time period they are in. That I think was the biggest problem of this season - it got a bit wrapped up in being in the future.

I hope that next season the story gets more into being able to contrast Brooklyn and his being used to wandering against the 20 years of relatively stable living that Sata has had altogether to bring up some fundamental TIMEDANCER questions rather than focus on the "threat" of 17th rate Madoc wanna-be. (At least the next season will have Maeve running around as a threat - THAT's something to worry about.)

**END OF CURRENT TGS EPISODE COMMENTS**
Airwalker - [airwalker9999@yahoo.com]
Brooklyn, NY
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 03:17:15 PM
IP: 12.88.161.75

Today's my birthday! ;)

Which reminds me...
Happy Birthday Warpmind!

Okay, I received this email today and I'm wondering if it's a hoax, or assuming that it is real, if anyone could be of help to this person.
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dear lady mystic
i'm looking for info on an old friend i lost touch with. their is an episode of gargoyles entitled past perfect or past imperfect the credits refer to a laura ackerman. do you know if this is the same laura ackerman who grew up in walnut creek ca and died a couple years ago? she would have been about thirty-five years old.
thank you
jim vail
(only 49,850 more laura ackerman refereces to look up on aol)
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Lady Mystic
Dearborn, MI
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 01:45:17 PM
IP: 66.72.182.247

How much of Deadly Force did they edit? I know they editied the part where Elisa lies in her own blood, (since I've seen that screen shot), but I've never seen the episode before.. But why did they edit it? They put it on later on purpse, so why not keep the gorey part? We can';t win...

But hey, at least for once they showed it!
Andrea - [Takari2002@aol.com]
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 01:15:20 PM
IP: 152.163.189.68

Mooncat: More on this later, but I wasn't actually suggesting replacing your beloved computer. If someone told me to replace Typhoon, I'd look at them like they'd just asked me to take a spacewalk sans suit. Software is atrociously expensive. I was just suggesting an addendum to your current hardware menagerie, since all of the software you'd need on the mac (if it were your secondary computer) comes with it (like, say, iDVD), but you already have a fully-functioning Windoze box.
Josh
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:26:11 PM
IP: 64.165.203.162

Josh - the dealio is that extra time I have, the extra cash I don't, not to buy a new computer system and all the attendant software I'd have to get for a different OS. I have lots n' lots of software.

And I love my Bastet =) She's almost two years old now, and still on par with the majority of brand new computers *^_^* yay! Even if she is an evil HP pavilion... sigh.

The DVD burner drives are now 'cheap' enough, in the four hundred range, that make it worth a little effort to get working, rather than drop a grand plus on a new computer just for something that next year will be bypassed by new tech.

Granted I hadn't counted on it being this **much time and trouble**, but into every life a little rain must fall.

I took back the Sony dvd burner and made an even exchange (and got a new rebate form, so I'm not even out that money *^_^*) for the HP dvd burner.

I'll get my exboyfriend to teach me how to put it in myself this time, so I can pop drives in and out on my own. Last time he did it while I was playing with his new baby and I missed it =(

I am thinking of keeping the Phillips though. The finalizing time after you have the raw recorded material is less than 2 minutes!!!! And in the meantime you can play it on the Phillips until you are ready to finalize. My only upset is that I can't do minute edits. Which if I download on computer, I can do things like that and make nicer menues and so on, and more easily add extra fancy polish before the rendering/finalizing ... which unfortunately is excruciatingly slow.... O_o ohhhh...

The Phillips has the quick and easy record virtue, now that it's all set up. Damn it had a loooooooooooooong user guide that had to be read before actual use the first time. ack...!

Now, if I can get the HP drive installed, and working, then the Phillips goes back to the store and I chalk up the 15% percent restocking fee ($120) down to experience which is still way cheaper than buying a new computer. And I do enjoy learning things =) If I can't get the HP to work, then I'll return it, and keep the Phillips until the next wave of computer burners come by. But in the meantime I can fuss about with recording directly on my hard drive, editing, then playing the feed to the Phillips and recording neatly edited feed. But only for really important shows, otherwise just a digital copy is good, because I have tapes from the 1980s that **are** disentigrating, literally,the magnetic coating on the tape turning to black shimmery dust. gah...!!!

Musing... Since Deadly Force is all edited, I might fuss with my tape and get a signal enhancer to get around the tape protection so I can make a clean digital copy. I might have a black box a friend gave me in my garage. Never used it before but it might be fun to play with now.

That said... I might pick up an Apple something later, when I have more money. Yes Josh, your constant raving about the wonders of Apple is seeping into my wee kitty skull...

But it won't be for at least another year or two, when I can't fight the to need to upgrade to a whole new system. If there is something Apple spectacular out then, I'll seriously consider it.

okay, later!
Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 08:54:41 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Alright so I skipped yesterday's post. I thought about it, then decided to go to sleep instead.

In other news, someone in this apartment is gettin' some...and it ain't me. ::is bitter::

I met with a professor today about research for next semester. Seems I'll have to learn object-oriented programming if I'm to help with this. Should be a great deal of fun and quite a challenge, if I can acquire the necessary knowledge to start in on it.

***TGS COMMENTS***

Nothing immediately comes to mind that bugged me. Oh, except the astonishing lack of artwork for Alex in his exo-frame. This reader demands battlesuit artwork!

The Gwen/Harthoth thing was no big shocker, since I had already predicted it. But I like the way it was presented.

More on this as I read other people's comments. Okay, so I'm a "me too" kind of guy when it comes to these, mostly because I don't have the time to think of drawn-out critiques.

***END TGS COMMENTS***

I love having Gargoyles running all day long. And I get it 3 hours earlier over here since DirecTV gets east coast feeds. But that damn logo drives me nuts. I also noticed that they cut the footage of Goliath landing on Coyote 1.0 during the flaming ship scene in Leader of the Pack.

Heather: <>: Actually, it means a lot. Almost ALL serial killers in this country are white males. I'm surprised they were black also.

Emambu: <<yet one more claim for Josh to make in favor of his beloved mac>>: Mac*S*. I own 2 8-)

Arrow: <<Hi?>>: Hello.

Mooncat: <<If you all don't hear from me in a while, it's because I'm dinking with the computer>>: Okay, so $600 (not sure on this figure, estimating you got a really cheap dvd writer for your computer and a really cheap DVD recorder), you still don't have it working, after a week spent futzing. And now you're reformatting. Just out of curiosity, is your time billable? If not, how much is it worth to you? I'd be willing to bet that (cost of 1st DVD writer) + (cost of Philips DVD recorder) + (hours spent trying to get DVD writer to work, returning it, setting up the Philips, reformatting your HD, setting up the new DVD writer) is less than even a new iMac with superdrive (nevermind a refurbished one that you could get for a lot less). So none of that "can't make the investment in apple hardware" nonsense, if you please. Already found an iMac with superdrive for $1399 with a cheaper upgrade to 3-year warranty.

Gside: <<with more XNORs>>: What's an XNOR? <<guess it is in the eye of the beholder>>: Beer holder. <<Wouldn't you usually eat before you drink>>: Depends on the mood I'm in. <<Or mine for Netscape/Mozilla>>: That too...but your windows box runs the risk of Microsoft one day saying "no more netscape, only outlook". I don't run hat risk. <>: You're nuts. <>: Huh? <<you could acquire the program VirtualDub, which has a LogoAway filter>>: That only works if the logo is semi-transparent, no?

DPH: <<Thanks for pointing out to Imzadi while it's unlikely that I'm sending him spam and computer viruses>>: Oh I already knew you weren't doing it intentionally. But if your email address is being spoofed, you become a casualty of war. <<Can you at least tell which email addresses of mine are being spoofed?>>: @yahoo.com

Leo: <<there's Myrt mentioning somthing about wondering for centuries what Brooklyn's mate looked like>>: Jealous bitch. Next time, don't become a metal golem! <<what does "Har" mean from "Harthoth">>: I suspect it means "servant".

Spacebabie: <>: That's nothing. Part of the toilet is called the ballcock. <>: Thank you squirrel. <<You thought I was Russian?>>: they did have black spies too, in all fairness. <<Were any of them long essays that had to be in between 8 and 12 pages long?>>: HAHAH no thanks. <<Cause that series is sooo close to actually being made. Don’t want to mess with Greg’s head>>: It can't have any more impact than any other fan fics. And its not any closer to being made. It just GOT closer to being made once. <<Like we don’t have enough gay villains all ready>>: Who said anything about gay? <>: well, golf does have a slightly larger paying audience.

Silverbolt: <<we checked and discovered that the murderer was Prof. Plum, in the conservatory with the Library>>: That must have been heavy!

Silvadel: Best of luck with that bastard cable company. Kill them all.

Crash time!

30. All bumbling conjurers, clumsy squires, no-talent bards, and cowardly thieves in the land will be preemptively put to death. My foes will surely give up and abandon their quest if they have no source of comic relief.

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 02:23:53 AM
IP: 64.165.203.162

I wanted to archive all the episodes on DVD. I have a DVD burner and I bought a capture card but technical limitations are making it impossible.

Does anyone have any idea if there are DVD release plans for Gargoyles?
rolfe - [rolfewiz@yahoo.com]
carlsbad, ca, usa
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 01:54:06 AM
IP: 68.8.22.11

I am registered for next semester. I love having 45 credits more than the requirement to register on the first day.

Spacebabie> <<I�m sure the mafia has way to see that they will win>>: If they do, they haven't used it. We jusdt lost to Syracuse, the only other team that might have been worse than us.
<<Choo choo>>: Bear? I don't think Imzadi's a boneless kitty.

Leo> <<ruin it for anyone trying to make good tapes by flashing their big ass "Gargoyles Marathon" logo>>: If you were to convert your episodes to digital format, you could acquire the program VirtualDub, which has a LogoAway filter.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:08:25 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

I thought so. But I am recording it. LM's father has our Disney Afternoon copies and he keeps saying 'We'll go through it all later', so I will probally never see them again.

Anyway, I can't wait to get a new copy of Hunters Moon. I need to see that ep again for a story I am writing.

Say... am I the only one that thinks Elisa should get her hair cut to shoulder length or shorter? :)
Fire Storm
Monday, October 28, 2002 11:46:26 PM
IP: 66.72.182.247

Yep... "Deadly Force" was editted. I'd kind of figured it would happen, too.

Between the edits and the logos... I don't think I'm going to invest any more time or videotape into making another set of recordings. My copies off the old Disney Afternoon may be out of order, but at least all the dialog is intact.

Patrick Toman
Monday, October 28, 2002 11:37:55 PM
IP: 67.38.244.181

Deadly Force, definately edited.

Now Playing... "Enter Macbeth"

MC
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, October 28, 2002 11:30:49 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Deadly Force: Is it me, or did they edit it? I remember Elisa laying in a puddle of her own blood before.
Fire Storm
Monday, October 28, 2002 11:27:46 PM
IP: 66.72.182.247

Personally I would rather they stuck with timedancer for a while -- they can get back to the mainline after more episodes ;)
silvadel
Monday, October 28, 2002 09:07:48 PM
IP: 208.59.247.9

Actually -- we have RCN... Rated like the worst cable provider.. The government came down on them and has been fining them, forcing upgrades... People in my area have been suing them etc... I mean we wont have digital cable till at least the 2006 date where they have no choice ... that was part of it ... so what did they do?

They sold us to some rinky dink firm -- I forget the exact name(IE like joe's cable -- it is that bad sounding)... So who knows what is going to occur with our service...

I do know we have one-way cable modem access and it gets worse ping rates than most dialups -- I dont think I have seen better than 250 ms to anywhere really. Plus it tends to put the throughput on the dl side when tested online closer to ISDN than cable.

Not that they have any competition -- there is NO DSL in the area either... I mean it has been significantly less than a decade that we have had cable at all... Ditto dialup internet access(for a good while it was only long distance from here)... and this is NJ/PA border Rte 78 corrodor...

I dont know what they are thinking ;)

silvadel
Monday, October 28, 2002 09:06:26 PM
IP: 208.59.247.9

Hi, don't mean to bug you guys, but when are you going to finish season 4 of the Gargoyles? I can't wait to see what happens after Elisa and Goliath's wedding. And what is the Nightshade project? And if you ask me, Tomara is quite the sly one, don't you think? That picture cracked me up.

So, let me know when your nearly done ok, even with my studies, I always make time for Gargoyles. And keep up the great work.
Anonymous - [Peaceblossom26@hotmail.com]
Bronx, NewYork, U.S.A
Monday, October 28, 2002 07:29:41 PM
IP: 205.188.208.9

KATHY - Thanks for explaining a bit about that Russian flashback. So their talk about revolution in 1905 wasn't perhaps quite so "12 years too early" after all.

* ANGEL SPOILERS *

Another good one. I liked Cordelia and Connor's team-up (at least neither of them will be alone while Angel's sorting out all of these mysteries). And I really felt sorry for Lorne (although I'm relieved that Wolfram & Hart didn't kill him; I was afraid that that was what was going to happen, and I like the guy. In fact, he's one of my favorite characters in the show).

I hadn't even thought that what Lorne saw prophesied in Cordelia's song (and she's desperately in need of singing lessons, if you ask me) could be the same as that "From beneath it devours" critter in "Buffy". Good observation, Kathy.

Incidentally, I got a kick out of those references to the Mayor's Ascension in Cordelia's yearbook.

* SPOILERS END *
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 28, 2002 06:40:41 PM
IP: 65.56.172.93

Eep... I meant "Thrill of the Hunt" not "Leader of the Pack."

Can you tell it's a Monday?
Patrick Toman
Monday, October 28, 2002 06:29:49 PM
IP: 67.38.244.181

My stupid VCR decided to tape in SP instead of EP so I just got home to find out I've already missed getting "Awakenings, Part 5" and "Leader of the Pack" thanks to the tape running out after two hours I'm waiting now for the top of the marathon's 4th hour to start a new tape. But as I sit here watching the end of "Leader of the Pack," I'm already finding the big logo they keep flashing on the screen REALLY annoying. My older tapes may be a little bit fuzzy, but at least the Disney Afternoon logo wasn't insanely huge.

:: grumbles and goes off to start a new tape ::
Patrick Toman
Monday, October 28, 2002 05:54:16 PM
IP: 67.38.244.181

What Leo said. That big flashing "Marathon" message is just hideous. Guess they are afraid bootleggers will try to make decent copies, or they just enjoy screwing with the fans. sigh...

I think these are the unedited versions. 5 episodes of Awakening took 2 full hours without commercials. eep! I was really worried as the digital display was counting down those last few minutes, wondering if it would all fit. I also noticed the "barefoot through hell" line was intact. Didn't someone say that had been pulled? I can't remember and I don't know if there is any site with a list of the edits.

Hmm... even with the horrible overlay, it's only a few seconds at a time. It might be worth it if these are unedited. Won't know for sure until it hits City of Stone, and we'll findout if the word "terrorist" gets cut.

Well, I'm starved. Quick bite while Thrill of the Hunt plays. I'm only taking out the commercials on Awakening to fit five eps together, just four eps a disk for the rest and going to let them play through with commercials and all. Will have to take this disk out half way then reserve it for the last two eps tonight, to get them to fit chronologically. woo hoo...

May have a special announcement later. *^_~*

lates
MC
>^,,^<
Mooncat - [m]
Monday, October 28, 2002 05:52:39 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Gargoyles marathon:

Of course Toon Disney had to ruin it for anyone trying to make good tapes by flashing their big ass "Gargoyles Marathon" logo that takes up the bottom third of the screen.

Bastages :P

Spacebabie:<> Adelphia? I thought Orlando was Time/Warner (according to their web site) and Toon Disney is part of their Digital Cable package.

We *had* the golf channel on our basic cable but it got moved to Digital when it came to our area. My dad was pissed about that.
Leo
Monday, October 28, 2002 04:57:29 PM
IP: 172.163.121.78

Buffy and Angel Talk

Todd > There was a mini revolution in Russia in 1905 - Bloody Sunday, and various riots and strikes including the Potemkin Incident. Could have made for a few wild nights. Follow the link for more info
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUS1905.htm
And Anya's V.D. friend's late, and lamented friend was called Halfrek.

Angel is getting interesting. Very Interesting. Could it be that their Big Bad is tying together with Buffy's in a non crossover crossover?

I need a nap.
Cheers,
kathy
Monday, October 28, 2002 02:45:51 PM
IP: 66.167.192.209

ACK!

Sorry MC, I was talking to Heather. -_-;; I just scrolled by so fast (and you both use the same colour)

y apologies. ^_^;;
Siryn
Monday, October 28, 2002 01:51:35 PM
IP: 129.21.145.6

POWER!

YAHOO! THE ELECTRICTY IS BACK ON!!!!

My whole frikken village had a power cut for nearly 24 hours because of the extremely windy storm we had! it was a nightmare!

Though it did give me time to spend with my family and i was happy about that... until Monopoly! I now hate my dad very much, becuase he put a hotel on Mayfair (The most expensice place) And I had to give him £2000!!!!! I landed on it twice!!!! Grrr... I hate that game. Still it was funny when we played Cluedo and we made a mistake when we putthe murder cards in. At the end we got really confused because it seemed everyone had the murder weapon cards, so we checked and discovered that the murderer was Prof. Plum, in the conservatory with the Library. HA! that was funny.
Silverbolt
Monday, October 28, 2002 01:31:11 PM
IP: 62.7.126.170

Recently helped my dad install a soda machine. I learned that one of the parts is called a Johnson plug.

I finished my essay weeeee. It’s about Gathering 2002.

****************************SPOILER City*******************************
Angel>>> Man AI is really spread out now. Cordy is with Conner and poor Wesley must be really feeling bad and poor Lorne. This guy must have been injured a lot in the series.
Loved this part
Gunn: ”You thought I was Russian?”
Cordy: “Black Russian?”

TGS>>>Bout time both Brooklyn and Sata got some action. Gee I wonder who’s egg is that? Good art. I loved that pic of Brooklyn with his children.

The Ring>>>Eeep that was eerie and creepy. Not scary, of course scary movies don’t scare me. The end was really freaky where she crawled out of the TV. Daveigh Chase is an excellent young actress. If you don’t know who she is she played the little girl in The Ring…and was the voice of Lilo
*********************************Spoilers End***************************

Time for Replies
Gside<<<Really, he's doing ads for the football team.>>>Hmmm I’m sure the mafia has way to see that they will win.

DPH<<<That should answer any question about the seriousness of TGS>>>Thanks for the info.<<<if I sent somebody money for shipping and the vcr tapes, could I get a copy of every gargoyles episode except the TGC ones (but I do want a copy of "The Journy")? >>>Ditto! I got money I’ll send it. Of course my birthday is coming up in six days.

Josh<<<woot! I only have two assignments this weekend!>>>Ok Choo choo. Were any of them long essays that had to be in between 8 and 12 pages long?<<<Wasn't that a secret?>>>Not anymore.<<<Well, he is SOMEWHERE, >>>Possibly even Vegas?<<<Oh well if Greg says it...has HE seen it?>>>In his head.<<<What does that have to do with anything?>>>Cause that series is sooo close to actually being made. Don’t want to mess with Greg’s head.<<>>Like we don’t have enough gay villains all ready.<<<Hopefully I can get some pictures up. >>>I’ll be looking forward to them

Revel<<<And don't bang your head against the walls,>>>I suffer under the evil thumb of Adelphia aka my crappy cable company that has a GOLF channal but not Toon Disney…wtf?

Silvadel<<<Daylight savings time ends tonight!>>>I got an extra hour to work on my essay. <<<upset that our cable company does NOT carry toon disney and I am going to miss this event >>>:::Sits next to Silvadel and hands her a coffee can::: Alms! Alms for those who need a better cable provider.

Siryn>>>Eeep. I think you were talking to Heather.

Patrick<<<I'm ready for the "Gargoyles" marathon.>>>:::sigh:::

Emambu<<<What's more likely is that someone who does have this virus also has Lyn's and Christine's e-mail addresses on their contact list. It copies itself and sends out an e-mail with a "spoofed" name.>>>I figured as much. I also received strange e-mail from

Arrow>>>Hi welcome to the Cr. Please deposit your sanity in a jar.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Monday, October 28, 2002 12:07:10 PM
IP: 67.24.93.131

Gargoyles Marathon> My cable provider shows that both Deadly Forces and Enter Macbeth will air on the final hour. I guess because the recap for Enter Macbeth includes stuff from Deadly Forces. Now that give me hope that they'll show the eps unedited. Well, I got my VCR fired up. Luckily/Unluckily as I have it, Toon Disney is still on east coast scheduling, being on the west coast that means it starts at high noon.

DPH> I think I'll have an extra copy or two of the eps when all this is done. Flash me an email and I'll fxi you up.

Rahsaan
Taleweaver - [loremaster27@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 28, 2002 11:19:18 AM
IP: 24.205.124.123

<<More TGS Spoilers/comments>>

Yes, good to see Harthoth again. [I'm Not going to spoil any more :)]

Which reminds me we. After they start timedancing again I believe they're due one or more vists to ancient Unu. - All the hints from Harthoth and Thoth in "Sun and the Serpent" seem to point to such an event, probably a brief encounter whith them overlapping the 3 years young Brooklyn spent there:
Both hinting at young Brooklyn to "stay with the gate" and Harthoth's "The time dancer must be free" statement.

Then there's the dinner conversation with brooklyn where Harthoth mentions that Brooklyn's 19th century visit (Brooklyn's first) was his "*third* time cronologically" meaning there is a yet unaccounted for visit between Brooklyn's arrival in 6000BC and the 19th century.
Also there's Myrt mentioning somthing about wondering for centuries what Brooklyn's mate looked like. - harthoth probably told her after Brooklyn had Timedanced out of ancient Egypt.

Also there is the matter of harthoth obtaining the records of ther time dances. Harthoth to Sata: "What makes you think you haven't" from "deals and exchanges"

Also here's a question (may have been answered long time ago).

If Meyrt-Isis means "Beloved of Isis", what does "Har" mean from "Harthoth" ?

:)

Leo
Monday, October 28, 2002 10:46:44 AM
IP: 172.175.80.10

Well, my satelite built in guide actually has the info for the marathon! Usually it never says what episode, and now it does! They eps ARE airing in order, EXCEPT Deadly Force. That is on at 11 pm EST. Then the series continues on in normal uninterupted order. And I've already set which ones I need to see (I haven't seen them all yet! Most though) to record on the reciever's hard drive. Man, I love my dish. More channels than I can ever watch, and with all capabilities of a VCR!
Andrea - [Takari2002@aol.com]
Monday, October 28, 2002 10:32:23 AM
IP: 63.186.241.227

<TGS Comments>: At last Brooklyn and Sata are moving back into major characters in the plot and one of the future's loose ends are being tied up. Though I'm getting attached to the future Manhattan Clan, it'll be nice when Brooklyn and family is actually time-dancing again.
Masamune
Monday, October 28, 2002 09:53:46 AM
IP: 168.91.4.66

Small request - if I sent somebody money for shipping and the vcr tapes, could I get a copy of every gargoyles episode except the TGC ones (but I do want a copy of "The Journy")?

Emambu - <Just delete 'em and forget about them. I wouldn't even bother e-mailing the people that it says you received the mail from.> that's what I do. Thanks for pointing out to Imzadi while it's unlikely that I'm sending him spam and computer viruses.

Imzadi - < Well, when most of your emails are marked as spam, it recognizes the pattern.> Can you at least tell which email addresses of mine are being spoofed?

In response to Imzadi's list of things he will/won't do when conquering the world, I've decided to put together my list of how I would play "The Weakest Link".

1)I will not let my ego get in the way of increasing the amount of money I could collect. I will not vote somebody as the weakest link (until the final round) if I perceive said person to be my potential competition down the road because that cuts down on the amount of money the group could earn.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, October 28, 2002 12:40:22 AM
IP: 204.94.193.79

Imzadi> <<Is that like LSD?>>: Yes, but with more XNORs.
<<Why is it unfortunate?>>: I was thinking more of getting it on (in the general sense) as being started, not getting a restraining order.
<>: I guess it is in the eye of the beholder.
<<Not necessarily in that order>>: Wouldn't you usually eat before you drink?

Emambu> Long time no see.
<<Outlook Express problem (yet one more claim for Josh to make in favor of his beloved mac)>>: Or mine for Netscape/Mozilla.

Hello Arrow.

And an mp3. It's a bit heavier than I like, but it's from a series I'm picking up (in a new codec for me: XviD): One Piece, about a pirate junior Mr. Fantastic and his crew, including a master of a three sword fighting technique (he hlds the third in his mouth). The song is Spirit of Zoro (that's three sword boy's name).

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Monday, October 28, 2002 12:36:24 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

TGS proudly presents a Timedancer Season 4 story . . .

The Harsh Light of Day, part 1

Outline by Alan Waltrip

Written by Alan Waltrip

Click my name, click the link at the top of the page for current episode, or visit http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/ce.html to read this week's story.

Also, the picture at the bottom of "In Love's Name" has been changed to have a 7 pointed star present instead of an 8 pointed star.
DPH - [<--Click here to read this week's story]
AR, USA
Sunday, October 27, 2002 11:59:56 PM
IP: 204.94.193.79

Patrick -- it starts here at 2 pm central time. So I'd guess it's 3pm your time. I'd go with the earlier time if there are conflicting info sources. It will most likely start with Awakening, so if you are off, it's not too big as that is often replayed and available on commercial video.

Here's to the event!

I took back the Sony DVD writer, as I spent over a week trying to get it to author a DVD and wasn't getting anywhere. I traded it for a HP DVD writer, which I'll try to install tonight. In the meantime I picked up a Phillips DVD recorder, which is like a VCR. So no matter what I intend to get the marathon on dvd. Dinking with the Sony has my computer all fazzeled =( So I'm going to reformat tonight. Just backed up my HD on my external HD. If you all don't hear from me in a while, it's because I'm dinking with the computer.

later!
MC
Mooncat
Sunday, October 27, 2002 11:03:26 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

oops, I dont even KNOW what color that is...
impfac
Sunday, October 27, 2002 09:44:55 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

You cant watch gargoyles? I can probably give you-for free-most of the episodes, 1st and second season and TGC. That's if I can get the eps I want during the marathon. Even if I can't I can dub them and send them too you (3-4 tapes). Email me.
impfac - [impfac@yahoo.com]
Sunday, October 27, 2002 09:44:12 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

I am so grrr..... upset that our cable company does NOT carry toon disney and I am going to miss this event ... Been a REALLY long time since I have been able to watch gargoyles.
silvadel
Sunday, October 27, 2002 09:34:08 PM
IP: 208.59.247.9

Hi?
Arrow
Sunday, October 27, 2002 05:27:36 PM
IP: 24.86.116.164

Dreamie > correct, that e-mail was not from me. Sorry, though, for however it happened.

Christine
Sunday, October 27, 2002 04:55:09 PM
IP: 65.239.13.5

*peeks in for a moment*

Dreamie: You're assumptions are correct. It's an e-mail virus, and neither Christine nor Lynati sent it to you knowingly. In fact, I highly doubt either one of them is infected with this virus. What's more likely is that someone who does have this virus also has Lyn's and Christine's e-mail addresses on their contact list. It copies itself and sends out an e-mail with a "spoofed" name. Most worm viruses work that way these days.

The real validation is in the text. From my own run-ins with the virus (thankfully never have contracted it myself), and through several other friends who've gotten similar messages, this seems to be the default text (or some variation of it). Then there's always the attachment file itself: title.doc.bat, or (my favorite) title.txt.src

Just delete 'em and forget about them. I wouldn't even bother e-mailing the people that it says you received the mail from. Like I said, chances are good that the name was spoofed from someone who _does_ have the virus and has those names on his/her contact list. The real person infected is masked. Usually, it's an Outlook Express problem (yet one more claim for Josh to make in favor of his beloved mac).

*peeks back out to work on Java coding*

---Emambu
Emambu - [erikmambu@hotmail.com]
Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Sunday, October 27, 2002 04:39:43 PM
IP: 208.40.167.86

:: peeks in ::

I'm ready for the "Gargoyles" marathon. I've got a dozen blank tapes ready and I just hooked up a new VCR that records static free. I just need to find out for sure what time the marathon actually begins tomorrow. The TV listings say 4 PM EST, but a commercial on Toon Disney just said 3 PM EST. And since I'm going to have to set the timer to start the tape... I kinda need to figure out which one is right.

Anyone know for sure?
Patrick Toman
Sunday, October 27, 2002 04:12:02 PM
IP: 67.38.244.181

Hey there :)
**Email warning**: I just received an email from both Lynati and Christine's email addresses which to my knowledge were not sent by them. Keep an eye out for these:

The email from Lynati's addy is:
Subject: Japanese girl VS playboy
File: setup.zip (45676 bytes) DL Time < 1 minute
No text content

And from Christine's email vecna@eskimo.com
Subject: A very new game
File: rock.zip (43488 bytes) DL Time < 1 minute
Text:
Hi, This is a special new game
This game is my first work.
You're the first player.
I hope you would like it.

I haven't talked to Christine yet, but I really doubt that was written by her, and why send it to me?
I'd advise not opening either of these emails, and checking with the person who sent it to you for validation.
**End warning**

Post with replies later,
Toodles!
Dreamie
Sunday, October 27, 2002 02:42:37 PM
IP: 198.81.26.201

Siryn - umm... were you addressing me? Or someone else? I haven't been making any references to serial killers, so I'm a little confused.

Andrea, *^_^* counting down till the marathon!

Mooncat
>^,,^<
sometimes known as "MC"
Mooncat
Sunday, October 27, 2002 01:50:13 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

MC> I think what your classmate meant to say is that most serial killers fall under a specific description. Most are caucasin males, in their early - mid 30s, well educated, and loved by society. That's the 'generalization' though. This is not to say that serial killers can't be female, nor black, (nor asian, nor hispanic, etc) It's just that proportionally speaking, most of the insane maniacs who do these kind of things are white. <:)

Updated MGC!! Still a few more days before GOth Gargoyles ends, so if anyone has artwork, email us!! :D
Siryn - [ekkapinto@yahoo.com]
Sunday, October 27, 2002 11:52:21 AM
IP: 129.21.145.6

Ok, I've gotten over my candy high from last night. That comment about the top 10 thing was a joke. I think screwing it up shows character. Anyhoo...

Mooncat> I'm actually on eastern time. I live WAY on the east coast. And I still love that KP game! Though I kinda like Bueno Rufus a little better now.
Andrea - [Takari2002@aol.com]
Sunday, October 27, 2002 11:00:39 AM
IP: 152.163.189.68

*comes in singing* I've been listening to too much Cats.

ANYWAY!

Sniper arrest: FINALLY! I know they're going to say there might be more stuff to convict them but I'm glad that is killing is over.
Wednesday or Thursday I heard people at my high school say at lunch and I quote "I'm surprise it was black guys. Usually white people do this crazy stuff."

Huh? I know we get the reputation for being a bit more daring... well some of us... but doesn't mean that does it?
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, Georgia, USA
Sunday, October 27, 2002 09:21:36 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Flugtag was hysterical! Complete morons trying to "fly" off a ramp. One guy was basically handcuffed to a giant martini. They did an Austin Powers skit and acted as if the giant martini falling into the water was the Dr. Evil death trap. Another guy dressed up as batman with more solid wings and launched himself off the ramp. Hopefully I can get some pictures up.

After Flugtag we had food, saw The Transporter (which was pretty good), then had more food.

And finished it all off with the Simpson's halloween marathon on UPN.

Mooncat: <<hot diggity dog diggity BOOM>>: Redneck.

Revel: <>: Even us high-bandwidth people appreciate it. The new art looks great! <<Go see what GXB would look like if he were a gargoyle>>: A bit thin, dontcha think? <<NyQuil is the keep to all you 12 step recover program people, it's over the counter, you can drink it, it's the 13th F-ing step>>: Nyquil is my friend.

Andrea: <<why can't deadly Force show at 10:30 monday>>: Because they hate you. <<Can we ever get the top 10 right?>>: Its not really important in the grand scheme of top 10.

DPH: <<came back at as spam>>: Yup. <<All that was>>: Well, when most of your emails are marked as spam, it recognizes the pattern.

Todd: Good points on Buffy.

Hyperion: <<Sorry about not replying>>: In my infinite wisdom, I have decided to forgive you.

Gside: <<took DSD>>: Is that like LSD? <<Unfortunately also true>>: Why is it unfortunate? <<Nice perks>>: I think not. <<Herring and mead>>: Not necessarily in that order.

Impfac: <<talking to chicks>>: Aren't you gay? Or do you just use that as the excuse for why you aren't getting chicks (yes, this does actually happen)?

30. All bumbling conjurers, clumsy squires, no-talent bards, and cowardly thieves in the land will be preemptively put to death. My foes will surely give up and abandon their quest if they have no source of comic relief.

Josh "Imzadi" Wurzel - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, October 27, 2002 02:36:11 AM
IP: 64.165.203.162

ME:

I got high for the first time ever! I’ve smoked, but didn’t get high. Now, being off my meds, I got nice and buzzed. For the first time I really enjoyed it.

I’ve been hanging out with friends and opening up, talking to chicks, getting nice clothes, and so on. I’m not obsessed with anxiety or self hatred. I gave up on carving things into my body (blood is fun). I’m finally getting healthy. I also treated myself to a 1/18th scale model of a Chevy Avalanche, which I took apart and put back together again. I’m also f((((king with the cops, but so far haven’t been pulled over. No desire to hurt myself, no death wish, no suicidal thoughts. I’m having FUN!!!!!

Soon it’s off to Canadia to hang out with Lain. Life isn’t so bad. Yeaa anti-depressants! 8-D

Christine> In other news > Becca is 8 years old today!

Woah! I thought she was, like, six yesterday? Congrats to you and yer seed =P I’m SOOO JEALOUS. I want a kid :*( Someday....

Patrick >>>Sniper talk > "We interupt this special report with a special report, to tell you that we have nothing to tell you. I think I'm officially brain dead now. I'm glad to see the media hasn't lost its touch.

I don’t think this situation is new for you somehow ^,^ But honestly, a random person being murdered in the nations capital just makes you go, ‘YAWN!’??? I don’t get it...

Iron Wolf> you sound like the kind of guy that can keep a good conversation going (you seem like the devil's advocate type heck so am i)

Actually, I become the cold hearted conservative, and force myself to take radical right positions even though I don’t ALWAYS buy in. Ask metal demon. But yes, if you like jokes, sarcasm, and gentle jabs at you and vicious ones at yourself, yes. You can email me if you’d like, or IM me. Just send me an email (impfac@yahoo.com).

>>dont worry about the room me and some one else got into a hug flame war years back over a missunderstaning it happens.

Well, I feel bad Mooncat-and now space baby and I think patrick-hate me, but all my attempts with the kitty to make peace have been shrugged off. My theory is we should open an IM dialog and make nice (I could forget 2 bitters years in about 12 mintues flat), but she insists on ignoring me. Now SB is in on the game, and many more. I feel badly I’ve come across the way I have, but some people set a bad impression in ink. I don’t want enemies not because I’m a suck up as MC said, but because I just HATE the cold, hostile silence. MC should at least be willing to talk TO me, not AT me, and same with the others. But, I leave it up to them.

But, to all those who hate me: Email me. I’m an amiable guy, honest. Very warm and friendly, and a little randy and sarcastic ;) Gimme abuzz and make nice, and I’ll love ya. Ignore me and I’ll get irked, but will try to move on.

BTW: MC: I’d like to talk to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In private. Try it. I’m not such a bad guy.

>>>It would be neat to meet other fans face to face

Yes it would.

Seems to be it. I’ll poke my head in from time to time, and try to make/play nice. I’m a nice guy, honest, just sometimes people upset me and I fly off the handle (online, never IRL). See: What I said about Jen’s kid. BTW, why is Greg B. intitled to have a bad day but I’m just a total @#$@ when I have one? I didn’t mean what I said, I was simply deeply upset and angry that day, and made the stupid mistake of posting.

I’ll try to be good (^-^)

Eimpfakken
Impfac - [impfac@yahoo.com]
Albany, NY, Mongolia
Sunday, October 27, 2002 01:30:27 AM
IP: 66.66.203.129

Imzadi> <<And why are online applications both fault-intolerant and devoid of documentation?>>: None of the designers took DSD?
<<Oh well if Greg says it...has HE seen it?>>: Uncertain, bu the did make it.
<<You have never been started, either>>: Unfortunately also true.
<<You wish>>: Of course, it's such a great job. Nice preks.
<<How?>>: Body language.

Todd> <<what do you expect from Vikings?>>: Herring and mead.

Hyperion> <<I'll get back to the witty banter later. Sorry about not replying>>: Don't worry, witty banter is ephemeral by nature.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Sunday, October 27, 2002 01:56:55 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

14th -- grr -- and I was 12th 3 times in a row -- I must be slipping... Either that or you guys are on the ball today.

Daylight savings time ends tonight!

Gargoyles get to come out an hour earlier at night.
silvadel
Saturday, October 26, 2002 11:59:12 PM
IP: 208.59.247.9

Hmm...been awhile. Let's see chances of me getting caught up on everything? Nearly zero. Too much on my mind recently, and, while I'm thinking that some people in the room might have constructive comments, I'm also not sure it won't touch off another flame war, and that the last thing I want. I shall have to ponder this at length.
Therefore, replies as follows:

Jaden> Dominion War? Der? I don't watch Andromeda *that* much . The only Dominion War I'm even passingly familiar with is the one from DS9. Sorry, not going to be much for opinions on this one.

Gunjack> Scroll down awhile to find the beginning. I started it. It's from a Red Dwarf episode. I'm sure Silverbolt can tell you more. Brief Summary: Android becomes human, decides to discuss his new "attributes" with another character. The gag is that he shows him two polaroids that when placed end to end...well, I'm sure you get the point now. Speaking of gagging I wonder how many polaroids you could...well, let's not go there...

Gside/Imzadi>I'll get back to the witty banter later. Sorry about not replying. Above comments explain why.

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"So, who are you voting for?"
"I think I'll vote for Marie Crane. .. I do not like Santiago. I always thought that a leader should have a strong chin. He has no chin and his vice-president has several. This, to me, is not a good combination."

Hyperion
Saturday, October 26, 2002 10:54:58 PM
IP: 151.199.240.160

* BUFFY SPOILERS *

A bit on the late side, but here in St. Louis, the show doesn't air until Friday.

Much further development on Anya; we now actually see some of her pre-Anyanka life, including not only the "trolling" of Olaf but also a hint as to what got her so unenthusiastic about bunnies. Much of the dialogue in the Viking Age scenes, by the way (at least in the subtitles) had a definitely comical flavor to it, almost over the top (but what do you expect from Vikings? :) ).

Anya's going-over-the-edge in wiping out all the fraternity guys (granted, they were crude and insensitive, but even so, having a spider-demon rip out their hearts struck me as overdoing it) and horror and remorse afterwards was well-done. The part that really spooked me, however, was D'hoffryn zapping her friend (Haffren was her name, wasn't it?) in order to undo the curse, rather than Anya herself - followed by his dropping his pleasant exterior for once and truly acting like a dark and grim head vengeance-demon.

The one bit about the episode that really bothered me (and this is probably evidence once again that I tend to be too much of a nitpicker where historical background is concerned) was the 1905 Russia flashback, which implied that the Russian Revolution was already breaking out and the Tsar being overthrown as Anya and Haffryn are having their little chat; that didn't take place for another 12 years. Of course, there was some minor revolutionary activity in Russia that year (Bloody Sunday and the mutiny on board the Potemkin), but hardly on the level of the Tsar's deposition and the Bolsheviks subsequently seizing power. I know that it doesn't make that much difference to the overall story, but it still bothers me a little.

Nice to see that they remembered that bit about D'hoffryn contacting Willow as potential vengeance-demon material back in Season Four.

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Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, October 26, 2002 10:06:32 PM
IP: 67.28.88.204

opps! missed the bit about the Satellite. kewl =)

lates
MC
mc
Saturday, October 26, 2002 08:51:06 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Andrea -- are you on central time? If you are on the east coast, it's an hour later, and if you are on the west coast 2 hours earlier... but I'm not sure how daylight's savings time will affect that. But if you are on central, set your VCR or let me know. If I get a decent copy I'll see if I can burn one for you. I can't promise until after I actually have it, because things can happen. Storms =( for one thing, because my local forecast is partly cloudy with chance for rain all bloody week. Today was lovely though, the sun came out =) First time in about a week!

Darn room reset, why does it have to shift around so much? ah well, umpteen something! In the name of the Fay!

Mooncat
>^,,^<

"Call me, beep me, if ya wanna reach me!"

Mooncat
Saturday, October 26, 2002 08:49:00 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Washington Cold!!!!

Hyperion- I do like Andromeda but it just feels like they aren't trying as hard as they should to keep things interesting. Oh well maybe tonights episode will be better. Don't you think that the Dominion War could have been done differently, more excitment? It was like they started it too late in the series and had to hurry to finish it.

Green Baron- Well share the wealth with the other poorly paid soldiers. ;) The trip there always sucks, going to Korea was bad, my butt feel asleep 5 times.

Dreamie- Nice patterns, probably go through about 40 pumpkins before I got it looks half way like a gargoyle.

Ravyn- I don't say 'good-bye' so I'll see you later.

Jaden - [jaden1444@aol.com]
Saturday, October 26, 2002 08:34:05 PM
IP: 172.195.103.142

Imzadi - The email I sent to you from dph_of_rulesatprogrammerdotnet came back at as spam? All that was is a request that you privately email me telling which email address is sending stuff to you and telling you that I don't send any more email out from a certain email address: dph_of_rulesatyahoodotcom.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, October 26, 2002 07:42:19 PM
IP: 204.94.193.40

Can we ever get the top 10 right? We have 2 #2's, and no #5. Oh well. I still can't spell online for beans (I guess you can tell proofreading is NOT my hobby, eh?)
Andrea - [Takari2002@aol.com]
Saturday, October 26, 2002 07:37:44 PM
IP: 64.12.96.138

What? Room reset already? It's still Saturday!

Anyway, my town had it's Trick-or-Treat today 5-7pm. It's raining, so we only got like 2 dozen kids. And we have a ton of candy left, even though I gave a handful to almost every kid (but I have small hands too...)

Now why can't deadly Force show at 10:30 monday? I have to work until 10! Oh well, I can always record it on my satelite reciever (I have a Dish Network 501 reciever, and you can record shows onto the hard drive and watch them later! You can also rewind stuff from the past hour, but that clock resets everytime you change the channel. it helps when you miss a big footbal play when going pee).

I am hooked on that New Kim Possible cheerleading game! i usually don't like cheerleaders (no offense to anyone who is/was one), but Seeing wack himself is funny, and Rufus is SOOO cute! To bad he's still naked.
Andrea - [Takari2002@aol.com]
Saturday, October 26, 2002 07:32:11 PM
IP: 64.12.96.138

TENTH!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr.
Saturday, October 26, 2002 06:45:30 PM
IP: 65.35.132.45

Niner
Revel
Saturday, October 26, 2002 06:40:47 PM
IP: 129.120.236.201

Eighth!!!
Greg Bishansky
Saturday, October 26, 2002 06:20:16 PM
IP: 216.179.2.203

Seventh!
Leo
Yorktown, VA
Saturday, October 26, 2002 06:04:21 PM
IP: 172.148.220.18

Sixth.
Lynati
Saturday, October 26, 2002 05:20:07 PM
IP: 66.141.252.178

I guess this means I claim 4th in the name of cute fuzzy werewolf pups everywhere!
Silverbolt - [Silverbolt2012@hotmail.com]
Saturday, October 26, 2002 05:16:15 PM
IP: 62.7.118.37

Eep... early room wipe. Oh well...

Number 3!
Patrick Toman
Saturday, October 26, 2002 04:57:17 PM
IP: 67.38.244.181

ummm... this looks odd.

Number 2?
Gunjack Valentine
Saturday, October 26, 2002 04:30:51 PM
IP: 192.133.129.3

2nd - thanks for the tip, Vash. ;)
Ed
Saturday, October 26, 2002 04:30:31 PM
IP: 131.111.8.96

O.o
Vash
Saturday, October 26, 2002 04:29:01 PM
IP: 129.98.123.136