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heather>> what makes you think youll get a straight response here, either? we LIKE keeping people in suspense..

and well.. hate to tell you but.. anything robby might have known about "bad guys" has likely been changed by now.. MU HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! ];)

hopefully, it wont be too long before you can find out what "bad guys" is about.. by reading it.. yaaay! till then, im afraid youll have to content yourself with the ask greg archives :)

no TGS spoilers allowed ;)
lain
Saturday, November 23, 2002 07:53:32 PM
IP: 65.93.73.167

Quick Question -- sometime back there was a fan fic of Demona/Dominique making friends with a hot dog vendor. Not a romance. Anyone know the title or author of the fic? I know it's somewhere in the GFW. 10 points for whoever can steer me to the right fiction. *^_^*

MC
MC
Saturday, November 23, 2002 07:09:44 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

waiting for the room wipe...

Todd -- It is a neat show. I saw the very end of the Orpheus/Euridyce (sp?) myth a few weeks back, and today's was the Lancelot and Guenivere (sp?) myth. Next week should be the doppleganger episode.

MC
Mooncat
Saturday, November 23, 2002 07:06:35 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

MOONCAT - I saw some of "MythQuest" here on the local PBS station (although they discontinued it before I could see the final episode, alas), and quite enjoyed it myself. It would certainly be of some interest to Gargoyles/TGS fans, since it included a few familiar legends (Theseus and the Minotaur, Loki's trouble-making, the Arthurian cycle, and the story of Osiris and Isis - which actually had Set played by the guy who did the voice of Raven in "Heritage" - among others).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, November 23, 2002 06:13:47 PM
IP: 65.56.174.225

lain: <<well, if this is true, you shouldnt have to ask silly questions like "whats it about" then ;)>>

Well you know how Greg explains things, he either answers it that ends up in a question about something or he says
"I can't tell at this time". I mean, I have to ask Robby about stuff and he tells me the same thing "I'm not with TGS anymore but I know things about what is going to happen but not much about 'Bad Guys'" So I have to be a goober and ask here. :P

Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Saturday, November 23, 2002 05:49:11 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

LM has no days off for a while, so the CR Information updates may take a while.

Leo: LM received your reply.

Anyway...

In the world of complete morons, the people of Nigeria have raised the death toll from 50 to 100 people, making this one of the STUPIDEST riots of all time.
I swear... religion does weird things to people.

I'll catch up some day... maybe.

BURN in the purifying fire of my flame thrower!
-Me, to the snow on my drive way
Fire Storm
Saturday, November 23, 2002 05:42:17 PM
IP: 66.72.179.130

heather>> <<Guys, I'm not being mean or "newbie-ish" I've been here, well in TOTAL because of my lurking time, about 2 1/2 years and I know how the things works with the S8 site, etc>> well, if this is true, you shouldnt have to ask silly questions like "whats it about" then ;)

lain
Saturday, November 23, 2002 05:33:41 PM
IP: 65.93.73.167

Hyperion> << <Okay, I realize that was a bad joke> Yes, well, just keep in mind I'm not quite as rabid a fan as some people here.>>
That has nothing to do with it. It was a really bad joke. I was groggy. :P

<< <but you try carrying on a conversation with Josh, and see if it doesn't have a detrimental effect on you> I have been. So far I think I've maintained a status quo. I think. I'm not sure what that says about me though...>>
That you have a very high tolerance for pain? ;)

Gside> <<Really. I recently found a website chronicling the interconnectedness of all things, as inspired by Adams.>>
Well, that's what happens to _me_, but I've rarely seen other people having that problem. Other people usually stop _before_ they start to go insane...

<< <<How can "Life is not all math and science" be _mostly_ wrong?>>: Depends on how you're looking a life.>>
Not with that wording of the sentence. Maybe you could argue that the idea behind the sentence was mostly wrong, but the actual wording of the sentence is either true or false.
But, yes, I suppose you _could_ argue that everything has math and science involved, but our current levels of math and science are so massively inadequate that I don't really see the point of looking at it that way. (In this context, anyway, since it only results in people missing the point. In other contexts, I do agree with that.)

<<Me. Or, of greater quantity/size than found on average, usually within one power of ten. Huge, giganormous, and other similar words used for greater powers.>>
*sighs* I can't believe that you used synonyms. I'll pretend that you didn't.
But what is average? And how much greater than average does something have to be before it is "big"? The value of "average" depends on what you are talking about, and how much greater than average the object has to be before it is "big" depends on who you are asking. There is no concrete value of "big". So, if you're having a conversation with someone and you describe something (which the other person has never seen) as big, then the other person is almost certainly imagining the object in question using a different value for "big" than you were using.

*sighs* I can't believe how far off topic this has gone... The original point that I was trying to make was just that Josh was being really presumptuous, which he does all the time, so I don't know why I bothered arguing... I'm such a masochist.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Saturday, November 23, 2002 05:26:44 PM
IP: 24.169.113.216

Well I only put the "unoffical" part because TGS is the closest to anything offical of Gargoyles because of using some of the elements from the Master Plan of Greg's, with a few differences of course.
Guys, I'm not being mean or "newbie-ish" I've been here, well in TOTAL because of my lurking time, about 2 1/2 years and I know how the things works with the S8 site, etc. I mean, you can look at the archives for me in 1999!
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Saturday, November 23, 2002 05:24:23 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Heather> Not to downplay the talent and hard work that goes into the fics, but TGS isn't any more "official" than the Avalon Mists series. The only "official" series is the one that actually makes it on television.

And I find it somewhat surprising that everyone jumps to the conclusion that Anaya is referring to TGS when she mentions "Season 4 Gargoyles". People come here to advertise their own fanfic series all the time. Season 4 Gargoyles could very well refer to a fan-made season that takes place after TGC, aka "Gargoyles Season 3". Even "Gargoyles: New Legends" would fit that category. Of course it doesn't help that Anaya didn't clarify herself, but maybe she isn't even reading the comments adressed to her here and has no idea she's done anything wrong.
Vashkoda
Saturday, November 23, 2002 03:31:50 PM
IP: 129.98.123.136

Saw in the paper this morning -- it's Salli Richardson's birthday today, she's 35. So, happy birthday, Salli!

Mooncat > good choice; gamers can always be counted on to rid a person of excess soda and snacks!
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, November 23, 2002 03:15:06 PM
IP: 65.239.47.40

Heather:> The following is taken from Greg's Master Plan that is posted on the AVALON web site:

<<"Bad Guys - This is the one that we came closest to making. Even completed a Five minute leica reel. This would have been a 'Dirty Dozen' type show featuring Dingo, Matrix, Fang, Yama and Robyn Canmore the Hunter.>>

For more info see Station 8's "ASK GREG FAQ": XXV Spinoffs and XXVI Bad Guys

Leo - [<-Ask Greg FAQ]
Saturday, November 23, 2002 02:52:53 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

heather>> wait, and youll find out ;)
lain
Saturday, November 23, 2002 01:27:45 PM
IP: 65.93.73.167

AH, I thought it was but was making sure.

I know the title is a dead giveaway but what exactly is "Bad Guys" about?
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:29:21 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

HEATHER> That "Bad Guys" series is an unofficial one, and has no connection to TGS whatsoever.
Greg Bishansky
Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:24:43 AM
IP: 216.179.3.49

lain> Well, So? It's easer to ask right? Rather then more or less waste your time reading. I did read one of Impfac's from Augest. But I know I know, thats only one. But so? Look. I do have a stopping line for people too. So, if he don't want my help then so be it. The other part is ireelavent now. I have it answered already. But thanks for giving more info on the subject. :)...
Ravenes
Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:13:22 AM
IP: 24.86.117.45

What a minute, isn't there already a "Bad Guys" going on or is that an unoffical one?
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Saturday, November 23, 2002 09:59:15 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

I found a home for my diet Lemon Coke! Yay!!!! Will give it to the gamers. =)

Spoke with the party I was gaming with and members of it do like the vile stuff. So I donate it.

Reminds me of a cartoon I saw on a convention newsletter. Two convention parents in wizard robes and "Spock Lives" t-shirts admonish their little one "Eat your pizza young man! There are players starving in the Gamers Room!"

Caught the end of another Myth Quest. Looks great. A Canadian/German production. neat. live action. compelling plot. For mythology and legends fanciers it's worth checking out. It's an hour long show (I think) and on PBS. I keep missing the beginning because even on saturdays it's early for me. Must start taping. Really impressed with it. It keeps making me cry and I only get the end bits.

okay, back to Saturday morning cartoons and getting some writing done.

Mooncat
>^,,^<

Mooncat
Saturday, November 23, 2002 09:31:48 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

shinigimi>> ooooooh be glad you stepped in there.. if it wasnt a flame war yet, it was sure as hell gonna be after i posted.. <<but it's really getting old. Fast>> glad you think so, too <<Nothing personal but please, the muscle in my cheek is threatening to start ticking every time I come upon either of your posts>> yours too? actually, its mostly a muscle in my right eye.. i had to go for a very long walk in the very freezing cold just to calm my fury.. and it didnt work too well at that :P <<Use IM or something>> oh as if.. :P that would involve actually TRYING to SOLVE something.. and we wouldnt want THAT, noooo.. cheap shots in the CR are MUCH better :P <<some reason email isn't good enough for having it out>> email only works if *both* sides are interested in communication, not so much if one side is only interested in power games :P

lynati>> <<While you’re waiting, why don’t you explain to me why it is we aren’t supposed to viciously attack people when we find their actions both disgusting and galling?>> well, see, because if we did that, you really WOULD be a krispy kritter :P <> you always did bluff badly. for someone who claims to care about someone so little, why are you putting so much effort into trying to cut them down? o.O <<what tagline? I don’t see a tagline, just a V>> i think he means the one in the post before that.

raveness>> <<Ok look. I am a HELPER ok? I don't put down people>> well, you certainly dont fit in :P <<Well I don't see that as very nice! *Shakes head.*>> well.. his butt *IS* kinda cute.. ];) <<How was I to know? Give me a break!>> well, OBVIOUSLY youre sposed to read ALL the archives before starting to post in here, silly you <<<SARCASM ALERT>>> :P <<Speaking of FF. Who writes them anyway? And can others?>> im not sure what you mean by "FF".. ill assume you mean fan fiction.. in which case yes, anyone can write fan fictions. theres a webpage dedicated to gargoyles fanfics at gargoyles-fans.org. if youre speaking specifically of TGS fanfics, then theres a TGS staff credit page at http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/staff.html. the staff does occasional recruiting drives, which will be announced in various places, including this CR.
uh.. if FF was referring to something completely different.. please pretend i didnt say any of that ;)

so.. tired..
lain
Saturday, November 23, 2002 02:13:20 AM
IP: 65.93.73.167

Imzadi> <<Don't encourage them>>: Someone has to be an optimist to counter you.
<>: Pretty much, yeah.
<<Does he have another one with which to do it?>>: I do.
<>: Generally an admirable trait.
<<Chocolate and hot women>>: Depends on the format of the chocolate and what the hot women are doing, but it generally comes out well.
<<Hot chicks, when the opportunity presents itself>>: But your newbie answerings aren't ideal to gain admiration of hot chicks.
<<what if that one retailer is in Redmond, WA?>>: See good probability.
<<What about the fact that Apple has 4.3 billion in the bank?>>: If it's losing money leasing unprofitable retail space, the money would disappear fast.
<<Or that it was rated by PC Magazine as having the best tech support?>>: If it's losing money leasing unprofitable retail space, they probably won't be able to keep providing tech support.
<<Then it would suck>>: Exactly.
<>: Thank you.

Spacebabie> <>: Trans Siberian Orchestra. Or maybe Weird Al.
<<Josh�s Train disease is contagious>>: I wouldn't say it's very trainish. Whoo might be closer.
<<Mozilla does sound like a kind of cheese>>: It also sounds like a large lizzard.
<<appears I was quite horny today>>: Warn me next time, so I can get down there.

Bud Clare> <<Gside _may_ be loose>>: You have no idea.
<<Really?>>: Really. I recently found a website chronicling the interconnectedness of all things, as inspired by Adams.
<<How can "Life is not all math and science" be _mostly_ wrong?>>: Depends on how you're looking a life.
<<Provide a quantifiable definition for the word "big">>: Me. Or, of greater quantity/size than found on average, usually within one power of ten. Huge, giganormous, and other similar words used for greater powers.

Lynati> <<On a similar note, is it sad that the only reason I remember my state capitals is because of Wakko Warner?>>: Is it sad that one of my earliest mp3 acquisitions was the countries song?

Hyperion> <>: Excellent. I direct you to Shelburne Farms of Vermont, http://www.shelburnefarms.org/ Very good cheese. Shame they only go back three years, though. And you can only get the old stuff in 3/4 lb blocks.
<>: You have no eye.
<<Not in "Much Ado about Nothing.">>: My bad. It was from As You Like It. I know it out of context with some other of Bill's work. The Much Ado quote from the grouping is suffer love.
<<The ones that are occasionally mistaken for small mountain ranges by lost travelers?>>: Ryouga gets easily confused.

DPH> <<Does that mean that Java can run on it?>>: Java can (allegedly) run on anything, as long as someone writes a virtual machine for it.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Saturday, November 23, 2002 01:41:22 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

DPH> *Sulutes smilling* Ok.

Ravenes
Saturday, November 23, 2002 01:16:12 AM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Lynati, Gunjack::

Love ya, get a room. Really. I know this room is somewhat boring without a flame war going about, and the back and forth you two have going is not a FW, but it's really getting old. Fast.

Nothing personal but please, the muscle in my cheek is threatening to start ticking every time I come upon either of your posts. Use IM or something if there's some reason email isn't good enough for having it out.

There, now aren't you glad I'm not lurking.

That is all.

Shinigami
Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:34:28 AM
IP: 152.163.189.68

I forced myself to finish watch all gargoyle episodes and fast-forwarded through most of the TGC ones.

Heather - <Anyone know when Gargoyles or Pendragon is coming up?> Answer 1: Sometime after Bad Guys is released. Please ignore Imzadi's incredibly stupid opinion about when Gargoyles or Pendragon will be released.

What's with the Christmas commercials being released so soon?

Mozilla decided it wanted to be the dominant web browser without asking my permission and even set itself up to do more things without my permission.

Fire Storm - <Video games taught me to become a better driver.> Video games combined with math background make me a rather interesting driver.

Spacebabie - <Yes I do. I also know that newbies
WILL be asking those questions. Gotta keep you guys on your toes.> I'm ready for that. *Points to the sky at a very specific satellite with a very powerfull laser always ready to fire at anybody in the CR.* More importantly, Lain will agree that TGS is actively trying to get stories released in a timely manner. If worse comes to worse, the current episode can be changed . . rather quickly.

Imzadi - <52. I will hire a team of board-certified architects and surveyors to examine my castle and inform me of any secret passages and abandoned tunnels that I might not know about.> Hmm. How copies of that documentation will you keep around? What's to keep somebody from bribing those people to lie to you? <Why don't you just release them as they're written?> Because TGS doesn't. <My main computers will have their own special operating system that will be completely incompatible with standard IBM and Macintosh laptops.> Does that mean that Java can run on it?

Anya - Do you really believe we're that stupid? Any "season 4" would be unofficial and purely fan-fiction.

Alesia - <because im very curious to know if apep rules the world or domething? if you know drop me a line on my email adress,k, bye!> Read "Games Without Frontiers" and "Requiem" from Timedancer Season 1 if you have a question about that. I'll let Imzadi pick up the slack in what I'm unwilling to say.

Yes, I am very critical of those two stories from Timedancer Season 1 because they gave away too much information.

Lain - <im still rootin for the miracle..> Well, thankfully, you know what miracle I'm talking about.

Ravenes - Can you confine yourself to posting once a day? Sorry, but your posts seem like a chat attempt rather than a post.

DPH
AR, USA
Friday, November 22, 2002 11:58:01 PM
IP: 204.94.193.64

Hey guys. The website is not omine. It's a Gargoyles RP. I have already posted there so please be apart of it. We can really use some people in there. Thanks.

Josh> And insted of the thingy I said about <are you aiming that thing at me> I was goina so Are you saying that to by mean?
Ravenes
Friday, November 22, 2002 07:24:48 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

No real topic for discussion today. I will say that I think it's funny as hell that a group of people are suing Washington DC, (i.e. the capital of the US), for passing laws the are in violation of the Constitution, (i.e. the highest law of the US). The irony is refreshing.

What else? Oh yes, given that I've just got my hands on a new Sony Clie, I have no real need for my Palm VII. It's up for sale if anyone wants. The VII is capable of connecting to the internet wirelessly. Package deal includes the Palm, leather case, pen/stylus and cradle. I also have the foldable keyboard if anyone's interested. Let me know if you are.

replies:

Bud-Clare><compliments> Ah yes, the "random feel-good compliment" God, I hate them. Like "Gee, you look nice" I think: Wow, I combed my hair straight back and wore dark earth shades. It's not like I got up and needed to perform the equivalent of painting the Sistine chapel.
Ah well, makes most people feel better. I, personally, prefer compliments that indicate the complimenter has applied actual thought to the compliment, but that's a rare thing these days.
<Okay, I realize that was a bad joke> Yes, well, just keep in mind I'm not quite as rabid a fan as some people here.
<but you try carrying on a conversation with Josh, and see if it doesn't have a detrimental effect on you> I have been. So far I think I've maintained a status quo. I think. I'm not sure what that says about me though...
<...The spelling> Oh, now you're just nit-picking. It's not that I'm a bad speller, I'm just a crappy typist.
<but that's not really relevant to the conversation>I don't know…depending on how loose he is, that is relevant to how far away from him I'm going to keep myself, my pets and really anything else concave.

Spacebabie> Or Physics!
(to the tune of ‘We Three Kings’)

We three quarks fine particles are
Bearing charm we travel afar
Fields and forces, spin of course is
Multiplied by h-bar.
Oh, quarks are wondrous, quarks are light
Quarks have colors, clear and bright.
Still misleading, still exceeding
All the physicists' insight.
<Hmmm appears I was quite horny today.> Be happy to help you out with that.

Imzadi>< Key was a euphemism> I see. Thank you Rick Moranis.
<No. I am a mumbling genius who can effectively communicate with well-spoken buffoons!> Whatever you say there, punchy.
< Its part of the whole "I want everything to just work without me f*cking with it" philosophy that mac users have> Hmm... well, see, I'm of the school of that that produced a liquid nitrogen cooling system for a Domain Controller once. Let me tell you, swiping a tank of liquid nitrogen is no small task. That sucker gets *cold*!
<Now lets see who you really are> And I would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for you meddling kids!
<except for conversation> Haven't met the right kind of women.
<True, but that's how ethics is taught> Hmm...do I want to get into learning as regurgitating information vs. learning as studying the information presented and drawing conclusions...nah...
<Does it happen often in your neck of the woods> Only when my accumulated karma hits negative values and the universe decided to balance its books Right Now.
<That just sounded so wrong> I know. Cool, ain't it?
<Is that authority a hot chick? One who people other than YOU think is hot?> In fact, yes. I have multiple endorsements that fit that category. As well as a few guys...which is disturbing, somewhat.

Gside><cheese> Your damn right it is. I love cheddar.
<Probably, but I am allowed to continue my claim> Well, fair enough, but I still say you are to sexy as the Pope is to Jewish.
<O, here's a brave man>Not in "Much Ado about Nothing." I even checked the text to be sure...Closest match:
Think not on him till tomorrow:
I'll devise thee brave punishments for him.
Strike up, pipers."

Lila><'m hearing untold stoooorrrrrries> I am an angel.
 You're not seeing the downside to getting whacked on the head by one of those Carnival floating islands that cruise the Caribbean? The ones that are occasionally mistaken for small mountain ranges by lost travelers? Am I missing something here?
<so I don't know the quantities of jello you'd need>Hmm...oh well...thanks anyway. What did you guys do, fill the pool or just a layer at the bottom?
<What's wrong with you>Um...I'm very selective about who I date?
<That's a lot of work> Actually it's one of those things my brain decided to copy on the first run though. Why it can't do that with things I actually need(like directions), I do not know.
 Tsk,tsk…You're not thinking clearly...you get the guy to beat all the names out of him and then you *blackmail the stupid SOB* Simple and profitable. And evil…but who isn’t
<You've never broken up with someone> Nope, always vice versa.

And that should retire the side…except for the obligatory B5 quote:

****************************
"Ah, Mr. Garibaldi, off duty I see. Ahm. Water, fascinating! I never touch the stuff myself."

Hyperion
Friday, November 22, 2002 06:51:13 PM
IP: 151.199.237.128

Lynati> Ok look. I am a HELPER ok? I don't put down people. I try to help them. And so I try to help Impfac. If he doesn't want no help then fine, I guess. But no one sayed I couldn't try and then you step in here and say he don't want no help! How was I to know? Give me a break!

Josh< <Kiss my butt> Well I don't see that as very nice! *Shakes head.*

Spacebabie> Thanks. At least some ones nice here.
Ravenes
Friday, November 22, 2002 03:06:46 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Gside: <Even after Aretha?> I had this discussion with Josh last night. (And he knows I wasn’t fully being serious.) On a similar note, is it sad that the only reason I remember my state capitals is because of Wakko Warner?

Spacebabie: I forgot to thank you last post for your compliments last week, so I’m thanking you now. Oh, and: “Push your charge to the limit...checkbook now has nothing in it...” although that one tied for my favorite off that album with “we wish you weren’t living with us”.

Gunjack <...In all seriousness, the visually graphic would have been preffered. I wanted your honest feelings, not toned-down word games. >
I thought you were mad at me for *not* toning down my word games? And it’s the same letter, just in typed media instead of “painted”. I just figured after reading all your woes in the last email you sent me that It would be just a tad too cruel to send. That, and I decided you weren’t worth the pain it was causing to do it in the “art-related” form.

<Send it anyway, for old time's sake?> Not for old times sake, no. The person of the old time no longer exists, and I don’t like you, no matter whose face you wear. I’m only sending it because I said I would. Same reason why I’m stuck filking a double-album of songs, when only 5 or 6 would suffice my purposes. funny thing was, it didn’t answer any of my original questions. Not that it matters now, I got them answered from other sources a while back. At first I wondered a bit at how accurate these second-hand responses were, but then I realized, given my past experience, that they would be more truthful than anything I received from you guys anyway.

<Heh. Savor the irony, baby. You of all people should know EXACTLY why not, Lyn, since vicious attacks against galling and disgusting actions what got us here in the first place. > Exactly. I just want to know why it is that you are allowed such attacks on me, and then get angry when I perform them on other people, and THEN get even more upset when I get angry at you for heaping the same behavior on me that you feel is unjustified for me to feel towards others.

<...Or had you forgotten? You came in swinging, we danced a bit, and the rest is history?>
I never denied that it was my fault. In fact, as I recall, when went ahead and tried to claim the blame for the whole thing just so I could get some closure, you automatically assumed I was being sarcastic and decided to bury the hatchet...*another* foot into my back.

<Lyn, check your email.> I did. And neither Cyrway nor Aaron have yet to write me back. ...oh, and I haven’t read yours yet.
< And incidentally, the tagline wasn't about you.> what tagline? I don’t see a tagline, just a V.

and now, back to class for more mass glazing, and then to my stage-makeup final, for part of which I convinced my teacher to let me put on my new-improved gargie-form face.
Lynati nee Kshudra
Friday, November 22, 2002 01:15:01 PM
IP: 65.66.159.18

Hyperion> << <I'm just used to being around people who couldn't give a proper compliment to save their lives> Really? Gee, that depressing. I never thought it was that hard.>>
Most of the people I know, for instance, would find the idea of complimenting someone on their logic completely ridiculous, and would instead compliment the person on... their hair, or something. Shoes, maybe. And when they compliment me on something completely frivolous, causing me to look at them blankly and wonder what the hell I'm supposed to say, they say that I don't know how to take a compliment.

<< <and call it Gargoyles World Tour, Part 2> yeah...we *could* call it that. Or not.>>
Okay, I realize that was a bad joke, but you try carrying on a conversation with Josh, and see if it doesn't have a detrimental effect on you. :P

<< <Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?> Actually...no. Not really. Beside, what are you objecting to? The looser, the barbiturates, the robot voice thingy, or the Shatner?>>
...The spelling? There were barbiturates and a robot voice involved?

<<Didn't you loose?>>
Okay, this has gone on long enough. Gside _may_ be loose, but that's not really relevant to the conversation.

Gside> << <>: No one can.>>
Really?

Josh> <>
*L* I meant a _select_ group, not just anyone who wanted to. I'm not _that_ crazy... (Plus, I was joking, but that's beside the point.)

<< <<Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?>>: Does he have another one with which to do it?>>
...Not a mental image I needed...

<<Ever tried explaining a technical concept to a non-technical person?>>
You've never met my mother. Yes, I have tried, on numerous occasions, so I _do_ know what it's like, and it isn't the same _at_all_ as trying to explain some philosophical or religious ideas. Once you get beyond a certain point, language actually begins to get kind of flaky.

<<And in my experience, scientific principles are just as detailed and obscure as any philosophical theory (and I do have philosophical training to back that up).>>
But you believed the philosophy to be crap, whereas science is your life... and you don't think you're at all biased?

<< <<Life is not all math and science, and only math and science are quantifiable>>: You are totally wrong on the latter and only mostly wrong on the former.>>
In your opinion. But, since I'm now cranky and feel like arguing...
A) How can "Life is not all math and science" be _mostly_ wrong? (Unless you're being nit-picky because I used "and" when the proper word would have been "or", but I'm doubting that you picked up on that.) Draw a Venn diagram.
B) Fine, then. Provide a quantifiable definition for the word "big" (without making any lewd comments, you pervert).

kathy> <<Two reasons: One it encourages the wholesale use of foods that should only be eaten in moderation>>
That's what pisses me off about olestra...

Gabriel> Really? How is he?
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Friday, November 22, 2002 12:58:37 PM
IP: 24.169.113.216

Good night, this Semester just seemed to roll on by. I’m going to try to get a photo of everyone from both classes, then get everyone to sign a poster board which I’m going to take to Ground Zero in NY.

**************************ER SPOILERS*********************************
Intense episode, but what was permanently stuck in my head was Kovac Skiing to work. Hmmm Kovac on Skis Ahhhhhhhhhh:::Gos into hyper fan girl drool mode:::
*************************SPOILERS END******************************

Peeps>>>Ah those marshmallow things covered in colored sugar crystals. They are okay I guess. I’m not really into them. When Easter season rolls around I’m not “Oh boy Peep Time!” I’m more “Oh boy Cadbury crème Egg and Jelly Belly Time!”

Replies
Hyperion<<<Well, there's always the Capitalist Christmas Carol:>>>I prefer Twisted Christmas’s “Wreck the Malls “

“Wreck the malls this Christmas season, fa la la la la, la la la la”
“Blow your cash for no good reason, Fa la la la la, la la la la”

Revel<<<*Smooch* I love a sarcastic woman. >>>And I love you too *Smooch*

Kathy<<<Sean Biggerstaff (Oliver Wood) is from Glasgow, Scotland>>>Hmmm Scotsmen<<<And he's only nineteen. My loss.>>>My loss as well

Godiva<<<If there were ever a movie made about Gargoyles, I can picture him as Macbeth.>>>Cool idea. Does anyone have their idea cast list for who should play the characters in a live action Gargoyle Movie? I feel some of the Voice actos should be included. For example I can’t see anyone besides Jonathon Frakes play Xanatos.

Lilah<<<Ewan McGregor>>>:::THUD!::: young Scottish actor. Very sexy :::THUD!:::

Christine<<<And the guy who plays Kovac on ER.>>>Kovac is sex on two legs!<<<And Keith David.>>>Gotta love those Gatoraid commercials.

Ravenes<<<Speaking of FF. Who writes them anyway? And can others?>>>IF you mean for TGS the credits are located by the stories and I think there is a group of credits for each season. To write those you have to be part of the team and they send out recruitment drives now and then. If you mean Fan Fiction in general, then YES anyone can write them. Go to http://fanfic.gargoyles-fans.org/ there is a large number of writers. To be part of it just click on the Add New Author button.

Gside<<<Woot.>>>Josh’s Train disease is contagious.

Josh<<<On the plus side, he was hooking up with two chicks at once 8-)>>>Yeah but two JTT’s are worse<<>>Okay I’ll just wear a pair of shorts and a bikini top. <<<Its not something that can be taught.>>>I see, do or do not there is no try?<<<No, because your enemy IS the hero>>>they would think I’m pure and innocent <<<she brought me back a large >>>In movie theaters large is small.<<<::smack:: >>>Fine I’ll use smackers on myself, but Mozilla does sound like a kind of cheese.<<<I'm effectively on thanksgiving break starting NOW and lasting until December 3.>>>I hate you…although on the other hand I only have 4 classes in this semester. December 3 is my last day of the semester.

Hmmm appears I was quite horny today.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Friday, November 22, 2002 11:28:34 AM
IP: 67.25.50.169

Gabe > Good. Maybe Impfac will get his head straight this time. I mean that. Clearly he needs professional help and he was pretty well disinclined to get it himself.

Silvadel > Sorry, forgot this the other day. Re: Soda. I can't drink the regular kind or any other soft drink for that matter, anymore. It completely turns me inside out. But I think the artificial sweetners including Splenda which is a backwards chain molecule developed in a lab to be worse. Two reasons: One it encourages the wholesale use of foods that should only be eaten in moderation and Two: the long term studies on these replacements are incomplete and the short term ones used to bring them to market hurried and in some cases, the negative effects severely downplayed. In short, in my view it's better to have a little bit of the real deal then a whole lot of of the fake stuff. And when I want a soda - which occasionally I still do - I drink one of the flavored, but not sugared in any form, fizzy waters available.

And no, I didn't always feel this way - except about the artifical sugars - that's a constant. I used to be of the Snickers Bar and Rootbeer is the Breakfast of Champions school. Which probably contributed mightily to the hypoglycemia issues I had for most of my teens and twenties...who woulda thunk?

Gah, it's pushing 10:00 and I'm sitting here in my pajamas. I really need to get in gear.
kathy
Friday, November 22, 2002 09:58:12 AM
IP: 66.167.193.170

Lyn> <>

No need to , he's in the hospital right now.

Josh> What I was saying is that Kathy called him an ass...agreed, he's acting like one right now. You called him a bunch of stuff that I also find in you, thus I called you on it. I think other people might have said some angry stuff to him, which I don't blame them; even I was getting pissed and sending him IMs.
Gabriel "gaygoyle"
Friday, November 22, 2002 08:49:21 AM
IP: 66.169.210.231

FINISHED!!! Had my last midterm today, which I think I was VERY well prepared for and thus kicked its ASS. Skipped out on one lecture and most of my lab, which just left my 3-hour PITA geological engineering lecture.

I hate that the 3 hour lecture drives me nuts, yet this is the same prof who offered me the research position that I'm taking next semester.

So in conclusion, I'm effectively on thanksgiving break starting NOW and lasting until December 3. My roommate decided to skip his field trip on Sunday, so we're going home TOMORROW NIGHT!

Kathy: <<Your school year just seems to be whizzing right on by>>: I know, and its kind of scary since its the last year of undergrad. <<Do you feel lots smarter or just numb from the cramming of information?>>: Definitely much smarter. I know so much more about structures than I did a few months ago, so much more about the engineering world at large and my place in it. Very cool stuff. <<You really are an ass>>: LOL.

Niamhgold: <<welcome newbies>>: Don't encourage them. <>: God I hate you. <<Should have been me>>: You can lift a nine-iron? <<hopefully she was sitting next to you, because then the revenge was easy>>: No, mike was sitting next to me, and he didn't look happy. <<At least you don't shroud your answers in metaphor>>: I think the result would be a mass beating by other engineers.

Bud Clare: <<We can get a whole group together>>: I don't know about you, but traveling all over the planet with a bunch of people from this fandom really scares me. <<Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?>>: Does he have another one with which to do it? <<Everything that you explain is easily quantifiable>>: Um, no. Ever tried explaining a technical concept to a non-technical person? It becomes abstract pretty damn quickly, because they can't grasp much else. But you said an idea. And in my experience, scientific principles are just as detailed and obscure as any philosophical theory (and I do have philosophical training to back that up). <<Life is not all math and science, and only math and science are quantifiable>>: You are totally wrong on the latter and only mostly wrong on the former. <<You mean you wouldn't exploit a nymphomaniac's psychological problems just to get sex?>>: Probably not if I knew them to be screwed up. I stay away from people like that. However, if I found out *afterward*, then I'd have no guilt. <<You can get the regular version (just the 4 DVDs) for $26 at Amazon>>: Woot!

Ravenes: <<You need to learn some Respect>>: Kiss my butt. I have plenty of respect, just not for people that I don't think deserve it. And Impfac falls into that category. <<Were you aiming that comment at me?>>: If it said "Ravenes:" before it, then YES! <<You should be ashamed of your self>>: I never have been before, and I don't think I ever will be. <<Why do you keep making fun of Impfac wanting to kill himself? We should HELP HIM>>: Well, we would...but his behavior in general tends to motivate us to not do that.

Gabriel: <<though when it's hypocritical and unnecessary like Josh's response to him>>: That actually had nothing to do with suicide, just with his attitude in general. It was an open flame.

Lila: <<Some of the less patient members of this room have already reached their limit>>: Or some of us have a zero limit.

Hyperion: <<had there been a Darwin Law in place, the world could have avoided another moron loose on society twenty years down the road>>: Oh, if only. Then I'd have an excuse for genocide. <<yeah...we *could* call it that. Or not>>: Thank you for not being lame. <>: Key was a euphemism. As in, gatekeeper/keymaster... <<essentially you are a mumbling buffoon that can effectively communicate with other mumbling buffoons>>: No. I am a mumbling genius who can effectively communicate with well-spoken buffoons! ;-) <<the lack of good guides for tweaking and overclocking>>: Everything you need to know is online. Much overclockage and tweaking if you know where to look. The truth is, though, that people don't really overclock macs as often as they do for PC's. Its part of the whole "I want everything to just work without me f*cking with it" philosophy that mac users have. That, and my very expensive very NICE applecare warranty that gets voided if I really screw with my hardware. Once that expires...new fans, overclocking, the works! And then buy a new computer ;-) <<the lack of any good games released prior to or at the same time as PC games>>: Yeah, it is kind of annoying. Most of the good games do come out for Mac, though, and if not it actually makes more sense to use the mac as a primary machine and a windows box for gaming. Windows runs remarkably well when there's so few programs on it to conflict. <<Curses! Foiled again>>: Now lets see who you really are! <<good cheese and a glass of port is damned close to heaven>>: Chocolate and hot women. <<Women tend to make things more interesting>>: except for conversation. <<Philosophy, personal philosophy, is not some Cliff's Notes you reference when you have a decision to make>>: True, but that's how ethics is taught. <<stoopid celestial mechanics>>: That just sounded so wrong. <<you might get hit with a random, falling, cruise ship>>: That sounds painful. Does it happen often in your neck of the woods? <>: Is that authority a hot chick? One who people other than YOU think is hot?

Heather: <<watching her Kazaa version of Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets>>: Its worth seeing in the theaters instead of some crappy tiny pirating on your comp. monitor. <<Anyone know when Gargoyles or Pendragon is coming up?>>: NEVER!

Lynati: <<about not using explorer to check for coding problems>>: Ah, yes. Basically, you should do what Mooncat mentioned earlier. Download a couple other browsers and install them to make sure your page looks the same in all of them. Helps out all those of us who don't have the exact same operating system/browser combination as you. <<it’s become pretty much standard for most MiSTs to have Rocky Callback lines where apporpriate...and almost obligitory to add “and it didn’t like it one bit” every time the phrase “...entered the room/building/closet/etc.”>>: I see. <>: Der. And of course me. <<she also referred to Matt Watson as “Matty” throughout almost all of the MiST of Stinkfist>>: Only one person ever has earned the right to call me that. And you/Nemesis aren't it. <>: The first one. <<after “Bad Guys“ comes out>>: i.e. NEVER! <>: R-E-S-P-E-C-T...they even had a song about it 8-) Of course, what you said is false. I have plenty of respect, just not for many people you know 8-)

Lila: <<return to the parties, beach, and self indulgence... all excellent college passtimes!>>: Sure...in LA! Speaking of which, I'll be home TOMORROW NIGHT! <<If it's important to you... it'll probably RAIN. Evil weather patterns of DOOM>>: Murphy's law of vacation, huh? <<It'll have been a year of being straight, and I may revert to being bi>>: I see. One of those girls who says she's bi because its trendy. <>: Same here 8-) <<*That's* why I'm staying away from geeks for a long time>>: See, its not fair to judge an entire group by the actions of one man. <<Depends on whether they're good or not>>: Thank you for sharing my sense of humor. <>: The downside is when it falls on you while you're strolling down Rodeo Drive. <<But you're single. What's wrong with you?>>: He's here.

Gside: <<On whom?>>: Hot chicks, when the opportunity presents itself. <<The success of one niche retailer has a good probability of reflecting on the success of the rest. And the success or the retailers tells you how much money the company is making, and if the comany doesn't do well, you don't get tech suport, upgrades, or other new stuff.>>: There's a whole in that logic big enough to drive my jeep through. For instance, what if that one retailer is in Redmond, WA? What about the fact that Apple has 4.3 billion in the bank? Or that it was rated by PC Magazine as having the best tech support? <<it is not necessarialy for a woman. Or the right woman, even>>: Then it would suck. <<you disagree, so it doesn't matter much to you>>: True. <>: I hate you. <<Even after Aretha?>>: Exactly!

And now, time to transfer files and pack before my trip! Weee!

52. I will hire a team of board-certified architects and surveyors to examine my castle and inform me of any secret passages and abandoned tunnels that I might not know about.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Friday, November 22, 2002 03:17:55 AM
IP: 64.170.155.113

Lyn, check your email. And incidentally, the tagline wasn't about you.
V
Friday, November 22, 2002 02:22:43 AM
IP: 192.133.129.164

Imzadi> <>: On whom?
<<Would the business success of one Apple retailer near your house have any bearing on your decision to purchase one?>>: The success of one niche retailer has a good probability of reflecting on the success of the rest. And the success or the retailers tells you how much money the company is making, and if the comany doesn't do well, you don't get tech suport, upgrades, or other new stuff.
<<Midsummer Night's Dream. Puck, I believe. Why that?>>: It's the final thought of the play, and makes a good final thought for many things.
<<Good call, I hadn't thought of that>>: My life is complete.
<>: But it is not necessarialy for a woman. Or the right woman, even.
<<Testify, brotha!>>: Hallelujiah.
<<Fight for what?>>: Superiority of food. But you disagree, so it doesn't matter much to you.
<<Constantly? That must make midterms tougher>>: Nah, I don't study much. Just go to lectures, and that does it for me.

Niamhgold> Woot.
<<don't know where you're planning on spending this one, but it's supposed to be a cold November up there>>: Thanksgiving's never long enough for the trip to be worth it. December (and/or summer) is when we make the trek.
<<I'm hoping no snow, at least for my stay>>: If you do not want it, then I wish you clear skies and at least warmer days.
<<At least you don't shroud your answers in metaphor. Darn artists>>: If you stop by Philly, you could beat up my brother if you like. Send pictures, though.
<<I'm quoting you on that. That was GREAT>>: That was rather tame.
<<And the hair just adds to it>>: You better believe it.

Bud Clare> <>: No one can.

Hyperion> <<good cheese and a glass of port is damned close to heaven>>: And someone who agrees with me about cheese. Is it ten year old cheddar?
<<Women tend to make things more interesting>>: Oh yes.
<<Good selection>>: Thank you.
<<Didn't we already have this discussion? Didn't you loose?>>: Probably, but I am allowed to continue my claim.
<>: O, here's a brave man...?

Lynati> <>: Even after Aretha?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Friday, November 22, 2002 02:19:26 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

Lynati><<Oh, WAIT. I could have found an hour or so anywhere over the last few months in which to finish re-typing your letter (as I decided not to send you the other, much more visually graphic version I’d been working on)>>

...In all seriousness, the visually graphic would have been preffered. I wanted your honest feelings, not toned-down word games.

<>

Send it anyway, for old time's sake? Or even just tit for tat. I sent you mine, after all...

<<So do I. While you’re waiting, why don’t you explain to me why it is we aren’t supposed to viciously attack people when we find their actions both disgusting and galling?>>

Heh. Savor the irony, baby. You of all people should know EXACTLY why not, Lyn, since vicious attacks against galling and disgusting actions what got us here in the first place.

...Or had you forgotten? You came in swinging, we danced a bit, and the rest is history?

I'll call it a night, before I talk myself into trouble... ^_^
Gunjack "Hold Her Back, Lads!" Valentine
Friday, November 22, 2002 01:12:42 AM
IP: 192.133.129.164

And another week is over, four more papers finished, it is time to return to the parties, beach, and self indulgence... all excellent college passtimes!

REPLIES:
Christine- Lord of the Peeps... sweet! <Best if allowed to sit out for a day or two, just to get the texture right <g>. They also lend themselves well to mutagenic experiments like microwaving, toasting over the bbq, etc.> YES!!! Slightly stale peeps! You rock!!!

Godiva- Nope. :-) Not my taste. Harrison Ford, however...<Eeew, try Russell Crowe, Will Smith, or the guy who plays Lex Luthor on Smallville instead.> Bald heads, mediocre acting and Australian accents do not sway me. Ok, lying. Australian accents... yeahhhhh.

Imzadi- <Think this weather will hold up until next week?> I hope so. Depends, of course, on how much you want it to. If it's important to you... it'll probably RAIN. Evil weather patterns of DOOM. <What happens then?> It'll have been a year of being straight, and I may revert to being bi. <Which are...?> Too long to list here. I rarely meet those who fit the requirements. <Most of the girls I've slept with couldn't seduce me into doing it again. There's a reason you stop sleeping with them.> D*MN STRAIGHT. *That's* why I'm staying away from geeks for a long time... the guy I'm gettin' rid of now... OUCH! That sucks. Cheating just shouldn't HAPPEN...

Bud-Clare- <You mean you wouldn't exploit a nymphomaniac's psychological problems just to get sex?> Depends on whether they're good or not ;-) (JOKE!!!)

Hyperion- <accept the fact that you might get hit with a random, falling, cruise ship. It's not that bad...er...I've heard...yeah...> I'm hearing untold stoooorrrrrries... hmm. Could I keep the cruise ship, should it fall on me when I'm chillin' in the ocean? I am not seeing a downside to this... <how were you're set up...and how much jello? I'm springing one on a friend of mine in a few weeks, information would be welcome.> You'll have so much fun! Think inflatable pools, the BIG one's with tall sides, and I just showed up to the party, so I don't know the quantities of jello you'd need. There can NEVER be too much.
<6'4"; dark, Hungarian complexion, and I have it on good, independent authority that I should audition for the part of James Bond once Brosnan gets too old.> But you're single. What's wrong with you? (I don't mean that nastily, I simply want to know.) <do have most of Much Ado About Nothing memorized though.> Impressive. That's a lot of work. <Hire someone to beat the crap out of him while saying "And don’t you touch my girl again, ever!"> Excellent. ::Rubs hands together and grins thougtfully:: <As a bonus, you'll now if he's cheating on you if he asks the guy *which girl* he should keep his hands off of.> Meh, we weren't exclusive yet anyways. I couldn't care less.
<Never had to do the letting down.> Oh, the endless tiresome process of selective elimination. Siiigh. You've never broken up with someone???

Enough. I've yet to master the quick-post technique.
-Lila

Anonymous
Friday, November 22, 2002 12:53:49 AM
IP: 134.173.121.83

Josh: you commented- er, last week, about not using explorer to check for coding problems.
<What is this, RHPS?>not quite. Although it’s become pretty much standard for most MiSTs to have Rocky Callback lines where apporpriate...and almost obligitory to add “and it didn’t like it one bit” every time the phrase “...entered the room/building/closet/etc.” <At least it was a *big* nothing.> *grins* thank you. I was hoping someone would supply the response.
<You do not have the right to call me Joshy.>
Nemesis: *shrugs*
I don’t know what’s up with her, but she also referred to Matt Watson as “Matty” throughout almost all of the MiST of Stinkfist.
<And yes, I am giggling maniacally (can one do that?).> Yup.

Lila: [I'll be brief. You rock.] *starts dancing*
Nemesis: I don’t know what’s more disturbing, the fact that my author is actually dancing around the apartment from the validation she feels from that little comment...or the fact that her new hero is a ten-year-old anthropomorphic fox.

Bud-Clare: <("Write an essay comparing two things." Argh! I wrote an essay called "Ways in Which a Boomerang and a Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich Are Absolutely Nothing Alike," just to try to keep my brain from going numb. (I got an A.))> eee. I remember boredom like that...I just made fic-movies in my brain and braided my hair, and was thankful that artists were so easily entertained...

Heather: <Anyone know when Gargoyles or Pendragon is coming up?> after “Bad Guys“ comes out.

Gunjack: ... [Speaking of not having much to say... hey Lyn, you planning on sending me that email any time soon?]
Well, I was, but then mid-terms came up...and then I had this big project in studio that was taking up all my time...and THEN I had to put some time in on my stories...and just recently I found this new webcomic, Ozy and Millie, and all my free time has been devoted to catching up the archives...and re-reading Cyrway Transformers fic...and I've spent the last two days loading, firing, and unloading a kiln...
Oh, WAIT. I could have found an hour or so anywhere over the last few months in which to finish re-typing your letter (as I decided not to send you the other, much more visually graphic version I’d been working on) ...heh, typed out, all those excuses DO look rather lame. I guess I should just admit upfront that I haven’t felt like bothering with typing it, as you simply no longer mean that much to me.
Maybe I’ll get around to it over thanksgiving break, if I get bored enough.
<Or was it "If you have nothing good to say, spray them with napalm aerosol and laugh madly to cover the uncomfertable silence"?
I forget sometimes.> So do I. While you’re waiting, why don’t you explain to me why it is we aren’t supposed to viciously attack people when we find their actions both disgusting and galling?

hmm...and on a related note, me and Millie apparently have similar thoughts on this sort of matter:
http://www.ozyandmillie.org/d/20020918.html
(I like her. I’m also fully aware of the irony of the situation represented in the comic above,and yes I do enjoy being that immature.)

Ravenes: <Why do you keep making fun of Impfac wanting to kill himself? We should HELP HIM!> He has explicitly stated that he doesn’t WANT help. He enjoys feeling suicidal. And frankly, most of us doubt that he means it; it comes off as a pity-ploy, one which he only indulges in because his friends let him get away with it.
<You need to learn some Respect!> I doubt Josh knows the spelling of “respect” let alone the meaning of the word, and no, that isn’t a hit against his vocabulary. In the meantime, try to get a look at the backstory before getting involved in an argument.
“The U.S. is attacking Iraq?? What on earth could motivate them to do such a thing?! Bad U.S.!! BAD!!”

Gabriel: As do I.

And on that note, I am at this time, politely requesting that you, Impfac, cease posting about your suicidal thoughts, tendencies, and feelings. I find the joyous manner in which you claim to be assailed by such serious problems to be offensive, and indeed mocking those who are seriously depressed and struggle daily to cope and actually get help for this problem. We of the CR will simply assume you daily feel like killing yourself until you post in a serious fashion to say otherwise, okay?

I also ask that anyone else in the CR who feels the same way about Impfac’s attitude in posting on this subject also *politely* request the same thing. I imagine if enough of us do so, he will stop.

Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Friday, November 22, 2002 12:36:59 AM
IP: 66.140.85.184

Anaya:> Make up your mind. Are you Alexis or Anaya (or Xeul)? Pick one but be consistant. :p
Leo
Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:08:42 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Fine Fan Fiction Alert! -- Summer Jackel, aka Jackel, has posted a new story to the GFW archive. Oh she is a wonder! The most perfect rendering of the first meeting between Xanatos and Owen/Puck, and Xanatos and Demona there could ever be! "Opening Moves" -- takes the game to a whole new level!

Recommend it highly.

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:07:22 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

if anyones enough of a dumb sucker to try that offer, make sure you scan for a virus.. :P
lain
Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:53:09 PM
IP: 65.93.76.7

"anaya" >> Everyone I have the first of season 4 for gargoyles... If you want a copy then you must send me an e-mail at Angelbaby1920@msn.com and I should be sending all copies on wed. 27, 2002 or thurs. 28, 2002 I must know by Monday!!!>> maybe i wasnt clear enough last time.. season four of gargoyles DOES NOT EXIST. go away :P
lain
Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:48:58 PM
IP: 65.93.76.7

Everyone I have the first of season 4 for gargoyles... If you want a copy then you must send me an e-mail at Angelbaby1920@msn.com and I should be sending all copies on wed. 27, 2002 or thurs. 28, 2002 I must know by Monday!!!

~~ Anaya ~~
Anaya - [angelbaby1920@msn.com]
South gate, CA, USA
Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:37:40 PM
IP: 199.182.133.153

*comes in with a bandaged left elbow, dragging her computer lines from her room, watching her Kazaa version of Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets* Owwww...

WELL, we had a blood drive yesterday at school with AFJROTC sponsoring it, it was good to see some of the ol' brown nose vultures around the Major and Sergeant Sharp again. Thank god I quit there when I did. :D
Anyway, I spent almost three and a half hours waiting to see if I could give blood, and I qualified with an iron level of 42 (much better than what I had when I tried to give last year). So when they prept me up and everything, the nurse pulled out a Louiesville Slugger of a needle out and jabbed me with it saying "It will only sting for 15 seconds." It did plus an extra twnety minutes from the time I was giving.
I was fine though, I was chatting with my buddy Zig, before she passed out at the cookie and juice table after giving herself, and a few other friends. But if I even tried to move my arm, I could feel that needle against my vein, so my arm was trapped.
It was over, they clipped the bag and pulled the slugger out my arm and bandaged me, I rested for an extra ten minutes before, SWOOSH! The volume level of the gym was gone! It was like having a stereo turn its volume from 10 to 2, that and I had goosebumps all over my body and tingly feelings all over... *thinks about theo ther possibility and shakes head* Nah, I'll tell Robby that part on the phone.
Anyway, they had to call my mom to pick me up and I slept from 1:30 yesterday to 6 this morning... And I'm tired now...

Replies!

Baron> ABOUT TIME! *hits his shoulder* So you're staying an extra two months? Just enough time to go back to germany and your time there is gone to go back to the states?
Oh! My mom wanted to know if you want anything for Christmas from her?

TGS> Anyone know when Gargoyles or Pendragon is coming up?

Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Thursday, November 21, 2002 09:23:51 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

And another entry into why I think eugenics should be reintroduced into American Culture:
The scene: An intersection outside of St. Ignacious of the Holy Rafter, or some other religious school like that.
The players: Me, of course, happily nestled behind the controls of my favorite vehicle; a genetically repressed child of about 9, in school uniform; a crossing guard.
The events: While I have the utmost respect for children, I also feel that there are certain life skills one should learn, such as, how to cross a street. Especially when the street is at a 4-way stop in a 15 MPH school zone, right outside the holy vestibule of St. Ignacious of the Holy Rafter. Sort of a training area for street crossing.
Unfortunately, the wise elders of St. Ignacious disagree with me, and so, my travels were slightly interrupted buy a grim crossing guard halting all traffic so her little children could safely cross the street. This little exercise continued as she waited for child after child...after child. God forbid any traffic should pass before little Timmy, fresh out of the hallowed halls of St. Ignacious of the Holy Rafter, covers the mile and a half to get to the intersection. Of course, after waiting for ten minutes for all the children to cross (some multiple times; apparently they were lost.) the guard finally releases her stranglehold on the intersection and allows traffic to pass normally.
I quickly accelerate to my normal cruising speed (Legal MPH+5) and get the hell out of there. Due to the school zone, this was about as fast as OJ’s famous chase. Finally breaching the school zone, I again accelerate (legal speed limit being now 25 MPH) and am no less then 50 yards from the intersection when a child of 9 dashes out in front of my goddamned car, requiring and emergency downshift, and the application of the venerable ABS system. The child, apparently unaware of the carefully guarded intersection only 50 yards behind him, was also unaware of the 1.75 tons of metal and plastic that had a) almost no room to stop b) almost no inclination to stop, save that I was already late (thanks to the grim crossing guard) and didn't need a police action filed against me.
Thus, I can only conclude that, had there been a Darwin Law in place, the world could have avoided another moron loose on society twenty years down the road. Apparently they make 'em dumb over at St. Ignacious of the Holy Rafter.

Moving on.

Bud-Clare><I'm just used to being around people who couldn't give a proper compliment to save their lives> Really? Gee, that depressing. I never thought it was that hard.
<This sounds... vaguely familiar...> Maybe it is. I might have heard it before...but not to my immediate knowledge.
<and call it Gargoyles World Tour, Part 2> yeah...we *could* call it that. Or not.
<Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?> Actually...no. Not really. Beside, what are you objecting to? The looser, the barbiturates, the robot voice thingy, or the Shatner?

Imzadi><It needs a "Die Commies" at the end> I'll try to keep that in mind.
<I'd have stolen his car and keyed his girlfriend> I know much better things to do then key a girlfriend.
<explain incredibly complex engineering ideas to MANAGERS> So essentially you are a mumbling buffoon that can effectively communicate with other mumbling buffoons?
<have any bearing on your decision to purchase one> Only two factors stand in my way of making a MAC my primary computer 1) the lack of good guides for tweaking and overclocking 2) the lack of any good games released prior to or at the same time as PC games. As a secondary computer...perhaps, once I get the money for one.
<Puck, I believe. Why that?> In case I overly irritated someone with my prior comments.
 Curses! Foiled again!

Gside><Cheese at least puts up a good fight> Actually, good cheese and a glass of port is damned close to heaven. Bad port and cheez-wiz is all I need to know of hell.
<women would have made it more interesting> Women tend to make things more interesting.
<One of the many things I have memorised> Nice. Good selection. I had to reference the internet.
<No, I am a sexy, sexy man> Didn't we already have this discussion? Didn't you loose?

Impfac><If you’re an act utilitarian, then you have to do Y in Z situation even though you think its wrong...”> Actually, the converse is true. Philosophy, personal philosophy, is not some Cliff's Notes you reference when you have a decision to make. the proper view is "If you do Y in Z situation then you are an X-ist."
I for example, consider myself a Libertarian Objectivist Baha'i; and if you know anything about them you'll know why all three philosophies are looking at each other oddly and wondering how the hell they ended up in the same brain. Occasionally I wonder about that as well, but by and large, any decision I make meshes with the tenants of one of those, be it political, social or spiritual.

silvadel><VERY dissipointing meteor shower...> yeah! How dare they...stoopid celestial mechanics....;-)

Lila><theoretical Karmic consequences would be grave> You just need to find a way to burn off karma at an accelerated rate...and accept the fact that you might get hit with a random, falling, cruise ship. It's not that bad...er...I've heard...yeah...
<Jello wrestling parties> Hmm...in all seriousness, how were you're set up...and how much jello? I'm springing one on a friend of mine in a few weeks, information would be welcome.
<Iiiiinteresting. Prove it> 6'4"; dark, Hungarian complexion, and I have it on good, independent authority that I should audition for the part of James Bond once Brosnan gets too old.
<And he quotes Puck> Actually that was copied from online. I do have most of Much Ado About Nothing memorized though. Never got into Midsummer Nights Dream. Too goofy.
<Any advice on (NICELY) letting someone down> Hire someone to beat the crap out of him while saying "And don’t you touch my girl again, ever!" As a bonus, you'll now if he's cheating on you if he asks the guy *which girl* he should keep his hands off of. Worked for a friend of mine.
Oh wait…you wanted nice. Sorry, can’t help you there. Never had to do the letting down.

*********************************************
"If you can't get through, how I'm--"
"The Psi Corps has an intelligence and training operation in Syria Planum."
"How did you know about the center? That's supposed to be classified."
"It is, but it has never stopped me before."

Hyperion
Thursday, November 21, 2002 08:51:08 PM
IP: 151.199.241.19

Gabriel> Ok. thats fine. I was saying that to EVERYONE WHO PROTISPATED IN DOING THAT. Not you. Thanks for trying. I am trying too...

Lila> *Sigh*... Well that doesn't mean you should make fun of him. Just leave him alone them. And mabbey I will look...

Ravenes
Thursday, November 21, 2002 08:30:11 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Ravenes-
Do some snooping. Look through some archived weeks... Impfac talks a lot about this. Some of the less patient members of this room have already reached their limit.
It's not heartless.
It's reaction to repetitive false alarms.

Lila - [liejones@yahoo.com]
Thursday, November 21, 2002 08:21:27 PM
IP: 134.173.121.83

Ravenes> Well, see the problem is, is that I care very much for Impfac, even called his parents, the hospital, etc. I get particularly hurt when he says no one will care if he dies after I panicked and did all I could (along with Lain and gunjack) to make sure he was OK. I even exploded in here and defended him in this room not too long ago.

The problem happens when he persists in his glorification of suicide (much like Yokio Mishima did in his novels) in the CR much to everyone's annoyance. People tend to stop caring when he keeps talking about it and laughing about it and saying how he hopes it happens.

This is precisely why I stopped getting on other people for sorta being rude (though when it's hypocritical and unnecessary like Josh's response to him).

I wish he would stop posting what he posts so as to avoid a conflict.
Gabriel "gaygoyle"
Thursday, November 21, 2002 07:13:16 PM
IP: 129.120.47.26

Josh> You need to learn some Respect! Were you aiming that comment at me? You should be ashamed of your self.

Everyone> Why do you keep making fun of Impfac wanting to kill himself? We should HELP HIM! If life means anything to you guys, if the life of one person means anything to you guys DON'T MAKE FUN OF HIM! Help him!

Ravenes
Ravenes
Thursday, November 21, 2002 06:47:24 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Hyperion> <<I'm impressed by your logic and agree with you wholeheartedly. Well said.>>
*preens* Thank you. (I'm not really that vain, I'm just used to being around people who couldn't give a proper compliment to save their lives. It's a nice change. :)
I thought that your post was much better, though. I wish I could write a post _that_ long without descending into run-on sentences and multi-level tangents... I tend to get groggy after the first page or so. *L*

<< <You've obviously never tried to explain anything even remotely complicated> He's an engineer.>>
*L* I see your point.

<<..."No kidding? Kind of a small shambling horde, isn't it?"...>>
This sounds... vaguely familiar...

<< <Of course there is always more to see>Always. If you ever need some company, let me know.>>
Hey, cool. We can get a whole group together, and call it Gargoyles World Tour, Part 2. :P

<<The guy sounds like Shatner on barbiturates with one of those cheesy robot voice changers. Sheesh, what a looser... ;-)>>
Looser? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

<<In reference to "nancing" I invite the CR in general to follow yon link. And enjoy.>>
But Ali still hasn't posted Elrond's diary. Maybe I should harass her.

Josh> <<As Hyperion said, I'm engineer. That means I've spent 4 years training and many months professionally explaining HIGHLY technical concepts to people who, as you've put it, can't find their own ass.>>
Highly _technical_ concepts... Everything that you explain is easily quantifiable. Try explaining to a blind person what a sunset looks like, or try explaining why you love a specific person, or why a lifelong dream of yours matters to you so much. Life is not all math and science, and only math and science are quantifiable.

<< <>: Oh come on, that was funny! It was a JOKE!>>
Really? You mean you wouldn't exploit a nymphomaniac's psychological problems just to get sex? I must have confused you with that other Josh...

<< <<they were so very stupid to not include the extra footage in the theaters>>: Is the extra footage worth the $80?>>
It's definitely not $80. You're thinking of the special version that comes with those spiffy bookends (which I really want, but refuse to pay that much for). You can get the regular version (just the 4 DVDs) for $26 at Amazon.

Lila> <<For me, the allegory of the cave was more than enough. It provided fodder for my prof to elaborate on for weeks...>>
*L* I feel your pain. Teachers can ruin a lot of things by dragging it out endlessly. We only talked about it for a class or two, although that was still more than I needed. With things like that, I think it's best to just read it, think about it briefly, and move the hell on. Either it means something to you, or it doesn't... either way, discussing it ad nauseum isn't going to accomplish much. You're better off just trying something else, rather than trying to beat it into someone's head, because philosophy (like everything else in life) is definitely _not_ one size fits all.

<<On another note, your replies are really very well put.>>
That's odd... I usually go off on so many tangents as to make following my train of thought impossible. *L* But thank you.

<<Any advice on (NICELY) letting someone down?>>
Make him think you're crazy, so that he'll dump _you_? ;)

silvadel> Re: diet soda
Are you allergic to Splenda, too? There's a brand of soda that uses Splenda in its diet soda. It's a fairly local brand, I think, but maybe you can find something similar where you live.

impfac> <<"If you’re an act utilitarian, then you have to do Y in Z situation even though you think its wrong...">>
*L* It's amazing how much school can get in the way of actually learning...
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Thursday, November 21, 2002 02:52:50 PM
IP: 24.169.113.216

**Niamhgold enters briefly**

I see we have lots of new people...welcome newbies ;)

Ah, almost Thanksgiving, which has made my weekly classes from heck a bit easier to bear. I've also recently found out that I've been accepted to take second-semester mobility at the Otis College of Art and Design in LA...and that's making for a horrid decision ;) I have about a week and a half to tell them if I want to go or not. Argh.

In any case, I'll try and post responses or better comments when I'm on vacation in NH. To Gside--don't know where you're planning on spending this one, but it's supposed to be a cold November up there. I'm hoping no snow, at least for my stay ;)

Imzadi: <My last midterm will be finished, and I'll have only 4-5 hours of class (sleep) before my thanksgiving break begins on Sunday> Bwhahaha! Mine begins tomorrow, with the James Bond movie, too! ;) I can't wait to see those 10 identical Astons... <Taking a nine-iron to a car was SOOO out of character for him.> Should have been me. <My friend went to get food, and I asked for a small soda...she brought me back a large and I said I'd be urinating out my ears> Well, hopefully she was sitting next to you, because then the revenge was easy. ;) <Er, not that I'd know how stimulating a third nipple is> Right.

Gside: <That too is in Mozilla> Mmm...BMW movies in Mozilla... <He (and I) is an engineer. It comes with the territory.> At least you don't shroud your answers in metaphor. Darn artists ;) <But I do, constantly> I'm quoting you on that. That was GREAT. <No, I am a sexy, sexy man> And the hair just adds to it ;)

Adios!
Niamhgold
Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:59:40 AM
IP: 206.41.199.3

Josh > Your school year just seems to be whizzing right on by. Do you feel lots smarter or just numb from the cramming of information?

Christine > Thanks. That means a lot.

Impfac > You really are an ass. What exactly is romantic about the notion of leaving your mangled (since most types of suicide involve damaging your body in some form or fashion)corpse for your loved ones or even total strangers to find. Why ruin their day with your selfishness? You know what? Don't bother to answer that since it will just be flip b.s. anyway.
kathy
Thursday, November 21, 2002 07:58:11 AM
IP: 66.167.193.170

As of tomorrow at 1230, I will be effectively free. My last midterm will be finished, and I'll have only 4-5 hours of class (sleep) before my thanksgiving break begins on Sunday.

Which, naturally, means I spent today studying.

Gunjack: <<the magic 8-ball says sleep is unlikely>>: It also says "outlook not so good". Think it knows about email virii? <<three hours till due>>: Plenty of time.

Silverbolt: <<why did Hermione get so many lines?>>: Because she's the girl, and if the girl doesn't talk then the movie isn't politically correct (or factually correct, for that matter). <<she knew far to much about the wizarding world than she should>>: She's a know-it-all, its in the job description. <<the treated Hagrid like HE was the hero>>: Spend some time in Azkabaan prison. If you come out, you're a frikkin hero.

Ravenes: <<Doese anyone know if we will be able to see meaters tonight?>>: What's a meater?

Lain: <<wins what, exactly?>>: No idea.

Spacebabie: <<One more and I can finally graduate>>: Amen! <<JTT irks me>>: Agreed. On the plus side, he was hooking up with two chicks at once 8-) <<Nice to see that Lex might get a love interest>>: Taking a nine-iron to a car was SOOO out of character for him. <<I’d be happy to pose>>: Somehow, I don't think you're the target demographic for calendar models. <<head Girl>>: That title is so wrong. <<Can you give me lesons in being a smartass?>>: Probably not. Its not something that can be taught. <>: I practice. <<my enemies would think the hero lives there>>: No, because your enemy IS the hero. <<Now I know not to order a soda>>: My friend went to get food, and I asked for a small soda...she brought me back a large and I said I'd be urinating out my ears. <<wise one teach me the ways of the smartass>>: Not even if I could. <>: ::smack::

Bud Clare: <>: Oh come on, that was funny! It was a JOKE! <<He wasn't rich. And what does that have to do with anything>>: Nothing, I guess. I just find that to be a common trait of rich people, and guessed that might be the case here.

Hyperion: <>: I hate you. <<Capitalist Christmas Carol>>: It needs a "Die Commies" at the end. <<I'd have keyed his car and stolen his girlfriend already>>: I'd have stolen his car and keyed his girlfriend 8-) <<Where's my gun>>: What do you need a gun for when you have a perfectly functional finger for self-gagging? <<Is there anything greater?>>: Yes. <<Meat is hard to beat. *holds up large sign upon wish is written "You all might as well say it"*>>: I've never had any problems with mine... <<Any topic involving jello should involve a pool, at least two females and a maximum of two bikinis>>: Naked Female Jello Wrestling!!! <<if I ever get visited by a giant, talking spider, I'm calling up Ortho and having them carpet bomb the place with malathion>>: I'm moving. I have severe arachnophobia. <<He's an engineer>>: I take this to mean that you think I'm a mumbling buffoon incapable of explaining anything to anyone. One of the things that's made me valuable to the companies fighting over me is the fact that I can explain incredibly complex engineering ideas to MANAGERS. <<why don't we walk briskly to the car and drive away>>: Or just ignore them. <<Since I don't know you from Adam, it certainly won't effect my life any>>: Thank you for telling him that. <<We have to annoy the Puritans somehow>>: Like the rest of our debauchery doesn't do that. <<Their advertising X-leopard or something>>: Its called Jaguar, the new version of OS X. And it rocks in ways XP can only dream of. <<see how much business they're doing>>: Would the business success of one Apple retailer near your house have any bearing on your decision to purchase one? <<half-sphere things with the integrated flat-screen are damned sexy>>: iMacs. And yes, they are. Especially with a 1440x960 17" widescreen LCD. <<what do you have today?>>: Bupkis, its true. Some mathematicians/scientists/engineers are great writers. But they usually don't become greats in their field, and they rarely discover anything revolutionary. <<Right here! And I'm a damned good looking geek too>>: No such thing. <<A final thought>>: Midsummer Night's Dream. Puck, I believe. Why that? <<what makes you think that comment was made in support of your position?>>: I actually knew you were trying to insult me, so I thought I'd turn it around into something positive.

Revel: <<the paint fumes would have made us enjoy the class>>: Isn't that how artists normally operate? <>: Where would we find such creatures? <<Don't worry we know what we're doing>>: Famous last words.

Fire Storm: The only way to learn to drive is to get behind the wheel. Feedback from an actual steering wheel, pedal, etc does not compare with video games. Video games may have given you better hand-eye coordination, but they did not make you more cognizant of where your car is in relation to other cars, etc. They sure didn't teach you to parallel park.

Kathy: <<It was the just shy of three hours part I noticed>>: same here. <<You can't spend ALL AFTERNOON hiding in a movie theater, you have stuff you're SUPPOSED to be doing.>>: Bah. So?

Gabe: <<did you just describe yourself? I think you did! Good job!>>: Oh gee that was mature and intelligent. What is this, third grade? I know you are, but what am I? I'm rubber, you're glue...

Greg: <<Josh is not "holier than though">>: Or anyone else, for that matter.

Lila: <<There is SUN to be had. Another 78 degree day, folks>>: I cannot wait to be back in LA. Think this weather will hold up until next week? <>: Actually, I type up my replies over the course of the whole day, finally posting the document just before I go to sleep. That's why there are thousands of posts stored on my hard drive ;-) <<don't we all want him to?>>: No, because then the cartoons wouldn't be a series of slap-stick PAIN! <<My buddies say I'm not allowed to get with nice guys, either. I get bored>>: You just haven't found the right insane nice guy. Like my roommate. Oh wait, he's taken. <<Chocolate in such context invariably leads to showers>>: Hell yeah! <<showers... I'll just leave that alone now. It's gone far enough.>>: NEVER! <<I'd imagine, less stimulating>>: Much. Er, not that I'd know how stimulating a third nipple is. <<will NEVER go again>>: Good. Rocky regulars are freaks, I know from experience. <<Not at least until August>>: What happens then? <<Big shiny comp moniter for mac g4>>: Technically, it'll run on any computer that's got the video card and/or adapters, but close enough. Points. <<they often fail to meet requirements>>: Which are...? <<Or a whipped girlfriend. That usually does the trick>>: My roommate's girlfriend can often be seen doing our dishes. I like her. <<was that honesty or just plain cruelty to Gside?>>: Cruelty. Mocking, mostly. <<ONE should NEVER mess with a man's CAR!>>: True, true. That's why I elected to steal it 8-) <<If you like a wrinkled ass and a outta commission pecker, I guess>>: Sounds like many women's dream come true. <<she couldn't even seduce someone she's ALREADY DONE! What's up with THAT?>>: Most of the girls I've slept with couldn't seduce me into doing it again. There's a reason you stop sleeping with them. <<Any advice on (NICELY) letting someone down?>>: I tried once, but the fact that they were cheating on me made it turn into a hostile situation anyway.

Silvadel: <<they were so very stupid to not include the extra footage in the theaters>>: Is the extra footage worth the $80?

Todd: I was under the impression that cockatrice and basilisk are different creatures.

Impfac: <<Hehe, nice one gabe>>: Actually, as comebacks go, it was pretty weak. Even weaker than "bite me". <<people that deserve it never do it I’ve noticed>>: Thanks, but I don't think I've done anything yet that suggests I deserve to die, except for many not fawn over you when you threatened to kill yourself. <<my ethical theory class is total crap>>: I've taken two such classes, and I am in firm agreement with you.

Gside: <<Then people would be constantly asking when the next one is, as opposed to only during the interminable breaks>>: True. Good call, I hadn't thought of that. <<That too is in Mozilla>>: I know, I was asking her if she'd tried that particular feature. <<At least you aren't thong. Or Pantyhose>>: I could stand being thong for the right woman ;-) <<It comes with the territory>>: Testify, brotha! <<Cheese at least puts up a good fight>>: Fight for what? <<But I do, constantly>>: Constantly? That must make midterms tougher...

Okay, last minute cramming before bed.

51. If one of my dungeon guards begins expressing concern over the conditions in the beautiful princess' cell, I will immediately transfer him to a less people-oriented position.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Thursday, November 21, 2002 01:14:45 AM
IP: 64.168.30.104

From the onion

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Parents of Suicide Victim Saw it Coming a Mile Away

GLENDALE, AZ—Last week's suicide of Glendale 16-year-old Adrian Lucas came as no surprise to his parents, who "saw it coming a mile away," according to a statement made by the couple Tuesday.

Adrian Lucas
"I wish I could say this came as a huge shock to us, but it really didn't," said Roberta Lucas, who on Sept. 4 came home from work to find her son dead on the living-room floor with a gunshot wound to the left temple. "All the warning signs were there."

Jim Lucas, 47, said he had sensed for months that his son was seriously contemplating suicide.

"Adrian was profoundly depressed and had lost all self-confidence and self-esteem," he told reporters. "He was convinced that nobody in the world loved him at all, or even cared if he lived or died. He'd frequently call himself names like 'shithead' and 'worthless,' and he was always telling us how we'd be better off without him. It was a textbook case."

Roberta Lucas agreed. "He was constantly saying things like, 'I guess that was my last time at the mall,' and, 'Pretty soon, you guys won't ever have to worry about my room being messy again,'" she said. "You'd have to be braindead not to notice."

A Glendale High School honor student who actively participated in a wide range of extracurricular activities, Adrian had, according to his parents, lost interest in school in the months leading up to his death, frequently failing to show up for class and quitting the track team. Normally an "A" student, the teenager stopped doing his homework and began failing tests. He also quit his part-time job at the local hardware store.

Above: Jim and Roberta Lucas, with a picture of their son Adrian.
"That's not like him at all," Roberta said. "And, on top of everything else, he wasn't sleeping or eating. You could just tell he was going to kill himself."

According to Jim Lucas, in the weeks leading up to Adrian's suicide, the teen grew increasingly despondent and self-destructive. "He kept scratching himself back and forth on his wrists, saying, 'This way to the hospital, this way to the morgue,'" he said. "At least once a day, he'd mention that slitting your wrists in a warm bathtub is supposed to feel just like going to sleep. Those last few days, I heard it from him so many times, I practically wanted to slit my own wrists."

Like his parents, Adrian's friends were not stunned by his suicide. "He gave me all his CDs, and he said I could have his stereo, too, if I wanted it," said Justin Scola, 16, who had been friends with Adrian since the first grade. "It doesn't take a psychologist to figure out what the deal was there."

Pete Ziegler, 16, whom Adrian gave a $350 Prince tennis racket, a Panasonic four-head VCR and 11 Sony Playstation games, said it was "only a matter of time" before his friend committed suicide.

"You just knew it was coming," Ziegler said. "I was pretty broken up about it in some ways, but, on the other hand, I was seriously psyched about all the awesome shit he gave me."

Roberta Lucas summed up the feelings of all who knew her son.

"We loved Adrian, but we've got to move on with our lives," she said. "He's gone, and there's nothing we can do to change that."

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Impfac - [impfac@yahoo.com]
Thursday, November 21, 2002 01:10:49 AM
IP: 66.66.203.129

Imzadi> <<Why don't you just release them as they're written?>>: Then people would be constantly asking when the next one is, as opposed to only during the interminable breaks.
<<Have you used tabbed browsing?>>: That too is in Mozilla.
<>: It all has to do with percentages.
<<Without a bun, your hands would be covered in meat and cheese>>: Sometimes, the bun gets in the way and you use utensils.
<>: At least you aren't thong. Or Pantyhose.
<>: My point.
<<No, I don't think so>>: I was thinking about peole coming to utilize her skills, not to be trained in her skills.

Silverbolt> <<Uthonium>>: Euphonium? So you're a tuba. I've heard rumors of double belled euphoniums.

Gunjack> <<Life Stinks>>: I have a couple AMVs with the song by Dennis Leary.
So, did you get it done?

Spacebabie> <<I�d be happy to pose>>: Woot.
<<So the only ones who would suspect would be the paranoid schizos that no one would really believe?>>: Pretty much. But they put up a mean fight.

Bud Clare> <<You've obviously never tried to explain anything even remotely complicated>>: He (and I) is an engineer. It comes with the territory.

Hyperion> <<Is there anything greater?>>: Cheese at least puts up a good fight. But it might be considered a meat by product.
<<Meat is hard to beat>>: But I do, constantly.
<<Any topic involving jello should involve a pool, at least two females and a maximum of two bikinis>>: I once made an interesting chocolate raspberry bavarian that was part cake, part jello mold. But the women would have made it more interesting. The pool and bikinis wouldn't have been needed.
<>: "Still the prettiest." Which is why I prefer dwarves. That, and "the gayest gay elf that ever nanced down the pike." You won't see dwarves nancing.
<<No more yielding but a dream... >>: Gentles, do not reprehend/For if you pardon, we will mend/And as I am an honest puck/If we have unearned luck/Now to 'scape the serpent's tongue/We will make amends 'ere long/Else The Puck a liar call/And so, good night unto you all/Give me your hands if we be friends/And Robin shall restore amends. One of the many things I have memorised, including Men of Harlech, The Jabberwock, and Long Black Veil.
<<No boom today. Boom tomorrow>>: And Boom yesterday, but never boom today. It MUST come sometimes to "boom to-day." No, it can't, it's jam every OTHER day: to-day isn't any OTHER day, you know.

Lila> <<cuuuute>>: No, I am a sexy, sexy man.

And for mp3, how about some Moxy I just picked up? I Will Hold Onby Moxy Früvous.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:15:17 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

lain> Speaking of FF. Who writes them anyway? And can others?

Ravenes
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:57:56 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

alexis>> <<I have the first of the new season for gargoyles if you want to read it then e-mail me at angelbaby1920@msn.com I will send it to you. After a week you have to get it from someone else this offer is only for a week!!!>> wow, thats a neat trick.. considering it hasnt even been WRITTEN yet :P
lain
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:34:31 PM
IP: 65.93.77.139

Revel > yes, ElfLore II is now available! Click my name for more info. It can be ordered right from me, from the online bookstores, or through any ordinary bookstore via Ingram or Baker & Taylor.

:: applauds Kathy's rant and offers sympathy on the current sucky situation ::

Godiva > Sean Connery has one of those voices I could listen to all day long. Ditto Patrick Stewart. And the guy who plays Kovac on ER. And Keith David. Basically, I'm just a sucker for a great voice, extra pluses for accent ;)

Leo > Peeps are THE Easter candy ... they've begun making variants for about every other holiday but Arbor Day so far, but the chick-shaped ones are classic. Best if allowed to sit out for a day or two, just to get the texture right <g>. They also lend themselves well to mutagenic experiments like microwaving, toasting over the bbq, etc.

Basilisks > personally, I like the lizard-type with the stunted vestigial wings. Those are the ones I use in my world, hence the spiffy designs on Tilanne's armor in Knight of the Basilisk.

Christine - [<--- ElfLore II]
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 09:27:05 PM
IP: 65.239.13.105

Gabriel and Josh> Hehe, nice one gabe :) Of course he’s right about me, I just don’t care.

Mooncat> *ROFLMAO* That’ll teach you not to spend the 99 cents at the check out counter first. A *24* pack? Why on earth??? Silly kitty. Be stubborn and unyielding like me next time.

LoTR> Hehe, we got that thing in at work weeks before it was out at stores, and far below MSRP too ;) I love this job, I really do.

Lain> <Signs sucked> No it didn’t, but maybe that’s cause I’m in that ‘looking for faith’ time in my life. I enjoyed it a lot, and I like Mel’s acting job just fine. <after i watched someone i loved die in my arms.. my perspective on death kinda.. changed.> Hey, would that be something like watching your brother waste away over 3 years from AIDS until he died blind, psychotic, and 70 pounds, in the room next to yours? Nah, it probably wasn’t that graphic huh? =] I’ve seen death.

*looks at your wrists* Ouch. Silly child. *kisses on forehead*

Josh: < If I were suicidal I'd expect that...a few people would be egging me on.> I would too. But people that deserve it never do it I’ve noticed, except maybe for Hitler. Just mostly harmless people hurt/kill themselves. That’s why if there is a god I hate him deeply.

If I seem to pontificate about suicide, it’s because it fascinates me and I love the idea. It’s very romantic, and I admire people that do it. *shrugs* And if I’m coming across as eager about being depressed it’s because I’ve given up on fighting it and will indulge it utterly until I’m miserable enough to do it. Sadly, though, this attack seems to be waning slightly. Well $%#@.

Philosophy> I’m sorry, but my ethical theory class is total crap. “If you’re an act utilitarian, then you have to do Y in Z situation even though you think its wrong...”

Well, who sits down before deciding in some outlandish situation, “well, my moral theory dictates X, and if I feel it is correct I must follow it even though I have to shoot the prisoner to save the other ten even though yaddah yaddah.”

That’s why, my class at least, is bullsh*t. No application in real life, and if there is you’re a moral freak.

“IMPFAC does not yield.”
Impfac - [impfac@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 09:14:55 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

KATHY - Yes, I prefer the more "rooster-ish" look for basilisks myself (although the "big snake" version is the older one - the notion of basilisks looking roosterish seems to have arisen from somebody jumping to the conclusion that because an alternate name for basilisk was "cockatrice" - actually, a corruption of "crocodile" - they should have rooster-like qualities).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 06:28:39 PM
IP: 65.57.61.87

I have the first of the new season for gargoyles if you want to read it then e-mail me at angelbaby1920@msn.com I will send it to you. After a week you have to get it from someone else this offer is only for a week!!!
Alexis - [angelbaby1920@msn.com]
south gate, CA, USA
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 06:26:21 PM
IP: 209.147.47.1

Thank's Godiva I just found that out. :) Haven't had those in a while.
Leo
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 05:51:49 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Ok. I just found out what "peeps" are. I feel totally stupid now. I havent eaten marshmellows in a while, at least not when they wern't mixed with some form of chocolate. :-)
Leo
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 05:48:59 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Good news. My cut isn't as deep as I thought it was, so no need to run to the nearest ER for stitches, though it would've gotten me out of doing the dishes. Drat.

Replies:

Lila - <He's OLD.> Well, duh. I think I mentioned that in my post. I just think that he looks incredibly good for his age. Not many men (and women) age very well once they get past 50. I guess then you wouldn't find Robert Redford sexy, either. And how would you know if Sean Connery's pecker is out of commission? <inspire you: Ewan McGregor.> Okay, I agree with you there. <Ralph Finnes> Eeew, try Russell Crowe, Will Smith, or the guy who plays Lex Luthor on Smallville instead.

Leo - <never seen a "peep" before> These are marshmallow candies shaped into various shapes for the various holidays. Example: cats, pumpkins, & ghosts--Halloween; chicks, bunnies, eggs (I think)--Easter.

Godiva - [renee_prater@rocketmail.com]
Townsville, CA
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 05:46:10 PM
IP: 24.52.251.66

Impac> No offence. This a a good thing. You should take Life management corse. See how to deal with whatever probs your having. I could tell you my probs too. Everyone has there share. Some more then others sadly. But we should try to help the person. Not put down the person...

silvadel> Thanks. And ya. What a dissapointment...

Ravenes
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 05:24:31 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Christine> Re: Lord of the Peeps

I have never seen a "peep" before. Liet me try to understand this. A "peep" is basically a finger-puppet bunny that wears napkin rings for clothing. ? ? ? ?

I wonder if there's a "Lord of the Flies: The Fellowship of the Conch" floating around somewhere?
Leo
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 04:39:32 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Mooncat -- Yes I really like mozilla myself... I prefer it to outlook for MAIL vastly... I had 4.x installed for that purpose for a very long time pre-mozilla.

VERY dissipointing meteor shower...

As for movie theatres, I tend to go on Thanksgiving day for the Harry Potter films and Christmas day for the LOTR ones -- The theatres are OPEN and much less crowded on the holidays.

As for LOTR extended edition, I cant rave about that enough -- they were so very stupid to not include the extra footage in the theaters.

Ravenes -- the meteor storm possibilities are over, but there are occasional meteors out there for about a week before and after the peak time.

Kathy -- I would actually love to be ABLE to drink diet coke... I end up drinking regular soda during the morning to clear the phlegm of the night because I am allergic to nutrasweet and there does not seem to be any sachharine sodas on the market despite the fact that they found no links to cancer in human testing.
silvadel
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 03:48:38 PM
IP: 208.59.247.9

Political Science should not be so time-consuming. There is SUN to be had. Another 78 degree day, folks. Stars are splendid... But I am glad to give 'em up for November warmth. I've actually been putting off posting... too many replies! Now I see why you hardcore folks are always going to bed after you type in!
REPLIES:
Bud-Clare: For me, the allegory of the cave was more than enough. It provided fodder for my prof to elaborate on for weeks... while I sat at the back of the class and slammed my head into the wall every five minutes... aka whenever he said something utterly moronic. ;-) Not a big fan of philosophy. It has about as much use in my world as the creationist theory of evolution. On another note, your replies are really very well put. You often take the words out of my fingertips for me. Thanks.

Silverbolt: <And if you can do whatever you wish you'll eventualy get bored eventually of doing it all the time.> Don't be absurd, man! If you ever should get bored... you'll develop even more things to pursue successfully!
<Also what is it with those damn characters who try to steal cereal from kids all the time????> HAHA, I think I tried to figure that out once... I think it's with the same noble intiontions of Wile E. Coyote. He'll never WIN, but D*MN don't we all want him to?

Phire-Cat- Don't keep on about the suicide thing. Emial me, seriously, if you ever need counsel or advice... or if you're reaching that proverbial last straw. I'm not a professional psychologist, (see, you CAN trust me) but I am someone who's gone through it, and can now say that IT'S FREAKIN' STUPID!!! As well as other (more helpful) things to help get you through whatever is keeping you down. Same goes for Impfac, incidentally...

GSIDE:<I'm available> cuuuute. However, that therefor means you can't dig me. (lately) anyone who does is married, or otherwise dating. Potential homewrecker in the making... right here. ;-) Except I doubt I'd ever do that (can't say for sure) but the theoretical Karmic consequences would be grave, I'm sure. (My buddies say I'm not allowed to get with nice guys, either. I get bored. Go figure.) :-P

Gunjack: Mmm... chocolate. ::winks:: Chocolate in such context invariably leads to showers. Mmm... showers... I'll just leave that alone now. It's gone far enough.<Writing a paper on why Christians should remove themselves from the American political process. Tough going, but a satisfying topic.> SWEET!!! I'd love to read that sometime... I'm currently writing one comparing the result of Vietnam and the cultural/political climate of the time to our current situation with Iraq.

Imzadi:<thought experiments there are as useless as a third nipple> AND, I'd imagine, less stimulating. <RHPS?> Oh, HELL no. I went once in Long Beach, had QUITE the disturbing experience on my neck, and will NEVER go again. Took me a WEEK to get the V off my forehead... <Oh, quiet. Poly sci papers are not "harsh". 15 page papers on rock mechanics are harsh. 4 problem sets a week are harsh. Engineering midterms are harsh.> BITE ME. It's all relative...based on the prof, usually.<Will that change soon?> Not at least until August. Men are the In thing right now. Big shiny comp moniter for mac g4. Shiny=GOOD. <What did we do to you?> Nothing special. And they often fail to meet requirements.;-) <Every man needs a maid.> Or a whipped girlfriend. That usually does the trick. Or a roommate one can bribe with food. <Like a tatoo.> Interesting comparison. <exactly how I feel about humanities.> Yeah, but you're a geek who knows how to verbalize. <Not to mention totally undesirable> Wow, was that honesty or just plain cruelty to Gside? (Not that it matters, really)

Silvadel: Mountains. Summertime. Annually, I think... actually,(come to think of it... anywhere outside LA's smoggy radius)stars fall EVERY freakin' night... you might want to look into that. It's breathtaking.

Impfac: Same deal as to the Cat... except *seriously* man. This is certainly not the room in which to post self indulgent cries of anguish and pain. You're only asking for someone to jump down your throat (in a BAD way) and to cut you down. If you're truly seeking someone to help, I'd be happy, but only if you WANT to be helped. There *is* a difference. BTW: Drop organized religion. Mom dropped her religion while keeping the culture, and it was the best thing ever for her and her child. ;-)

Lain-< because the intellect is only apparent ;) oh and.. got instant messengers??? :D> Well, I guess I'll have to settle for "apparent". Entertaining anyways, for the time being. Yes, I do have AOL IM, but that's it. I'm usually open to chat... "originalila". Enjoy. :-)

Mooncat- Dibs on the Cherry diet!!! Where did you find it??? Where can I get it??? I've sought diet Cherry coke for YEARS!!!!! As for the lemon... condolences. Ew. Can't always taste the product before ya get it home though... ;-)As for those Bertie Bott beans... run the hell away from 'em. I tried 'em, against my better judgement, and could stomach the spinach, and grass, but the SARDINE was FOUL... the others I wouldn't venture to try. Vomit, pleaugh.

Hyperion-<I'd have keyed his car and stolen his girlfriend already.> THAT IS AWFUL!!! How utterly immoral and wrong. You should be ashamed of yourself. ONE should NEVER mess with a man's CAR!!!< Any topic involving jello should involve a pool, at least two females and a maximum of two bikinis> Jello wrestling parties. Champ. 'Nuff said.< If you really want to live, you'll make that decision on your own> And the voice of reason speaks. <Right here! And I'm a damned good looking geek too> Iiiiinteresting. Prove it. ::winks:: And he quotes Puck. Sweet.

Godiva-<Sean Connery is the epitomy of sexiness> If you like a wrinkled ass and a outta commission pecker, I guess. Newsflash: He's OLD. Let's try to inspire you: Ewan McGregor. Ralph Finnes. Oh, and of course, James Marsters... which leads me neatly into... (a segue, a segue, my kingdom for a segue)

*****BUFFY SPOILERS******
WTF??!!! FIRST THEY KILL OFF JONATHAN... AS IF THAT'S NOT BAD ENOUGH. I loved him! Now they threaten Giles! That freakin' pissed me off. Yeah, the Big Bad rocks. Anything tha fills the screen with multiple Spikes is a girl's fantasy. One evil, one good... hmmm... ideas. But seriously... Joss Whedon better not think that a good blowout is killing all the good characters. On that note, why's ANYA survived this long? Wanna talk about whiney, she couldn't even seduce someone she's ALREADY DONE! What's up with THAT? (Yes, I know it was a ruse.)
*****END BUFFY SPOILERS/RANT*****

DONE! Am going outside. Will read more psych. Will absoarb more sun. Will attend classes... arg. Classes. Oh, and MUST find a way to (nicely) remove a useless young man from my life. Any advice on (NICELY) letting someone down?
-Lila
Lila - [liejones@yahoo.com]
L.A., CA
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 03:43:33 PM
IP: 134.173.121.83

Imzadi><engineer>Whoa there, chief...what makes you think that comment was made in support of your position? :-D
MUHWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Dammit...must...stop...being...evil...

Green Baron>If you're ever back in Istanbul, check out the Basilica Cistern. All thats missing down there is the guy in the mask singing about "The Music of the Night".
Hyperion
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 02:24:42 PM
IP: 151.199.240.238

GABE> That was yncalled for. Josh is not "holier than though". The rest on the hand... ;)
Greg Bishansky
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 02:10:57 PM
IP: 216.179.1.134

Okay, I totally deserve this nasty cut on my right middle finger. Too lazy to go downstairs to get the scissors to cut the drawstring of my sweatpants, so I decided to use the blade from my husband's exacto knife instead. Yeah, that was really dumb.

Kathy & Christine -- Speaking of sexy Scottish accents, even though he's old (like 70, I think), Sean Connery is the epitomy of sexiness. If there were ever a movie made about Gargoyles, I can picture him as Macbeth. *wipes drool before it shorts out the keyboard.

Godiva - [renee_prater@rocketmail.com]
Somewhere in the Inland Empire, CA
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 02:00:45 PM
IP: 24.52.251.66

josh> <<Your holier-than-thou attitude, mixed with your superiority complex, mixed with your attention whore complex make me want to bitch-slap you. You openly invite flames>>

Hey, did you just describe yourself? I think you did! Good job!
Gabriel "gaygoyle"
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 02:00:40 PM
IP: 129.120.193.13

Misc. rambling. You've been warned.

Harry Potter: It was the just shy of three hours part I noticed. I've got a clock in my head and after a while it kept sounding off - "You can't spend ALL AFTERNOON hiding in a movie theater, you have stuff you're SUPPOSED to be doing."

Sean Biggerstaff (Oliver Wood) is from Glasgow, Scotland. And he's only nineteen. My loss.

Oh, the Basilisk? I prefer the versions where it's less a snake and more a big lizard with a rooster head. But that's just me.

Buffy was great last night. Lots of Spike and good lines all around. I still want to see more of a noncross over cross over happen soon. It's raining fire in L.A.. Surely someone has got to find the time to mention that.

Angel was funny if only to hear the screams across the Internet about the final scene between Cordelia and Conner. The rest of the ep was pretty good too, but I hope the monster is just some kind of herald, because otherwise - Big Bad is Boring.

And now the rant portion of the comment.

Life sucks sometimes. It does. No getting around it and it happens for everybody. But you know what's really irritating? Listening to people say in the same sentence how bad they think things are while bragging about it at the same time. To me all that says is they can't think of any better way to get attention for themselves. And yeah, Impac, I'm looking at you. Go do something positive. You think you have troubles? Go spend a couple of hours volunteering at a cancer ward or stocking shelves a food bank. Get some perspective on life. If your problems are medically induced then go to your shrink and get your medication adjusted. Whatever. Just stop wallowing.

And before you think this is coming from just another disgruntled inhabitant of this room listen up: my life has flat out sucked for the last two months. My husband took a job in another state. He comes home on the weekends, but only long enough to get his laundry done and then he's off again. He's too tired to help with the three hundred dozen things that need to be done to shut down a house and arrange a long distance move. It makes me angry. And then guilty. Because I know he's doing all he can on his end to put things together. I'm not good at living by myself. I never have been probably because I've never had much practice. Chiefly, it's the cooking. I can cater semiprofessionally, but I find it a pita to cook for one. One day I realized I was depressed enough that I had to talk to someone about it because I couldn't suck it up any more. You know what? My friends, not one of my close friends, had the time of day to deal with my pain. Why? I don't know, probably because I'm always the "go to girl" and they didn't want to think of me as anything else. I'm still angry about it on some levels, but I 'll get over it. My point with this self disclosure is no matter how much life sucks, no matter what the circumstances, it's all transitory. In a couple more weeks, I'll be living in a new place, with new projects and new goals. But I'll be there because I depend on me. So you guys need to learn to depend on you. Stop whining that the world owes you something, look inside and see what you can contribute to someone else.

Rant over.
kathy
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 01:21:48 PM
IP: 66.167.193.170

Hey, does anyone know of a good driving simulator for the PC? And no, Grand Theft Auto: VIce City does NOT count... and neither does Need for Speed.

Trying to teach my sister to drive and I think some simulator work would be good. Video games taught me to become a better driver.
Fire Storm
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 01:16:37 PM
IP: 66.72.179.130

Bud Clare: <<You've obviously never tried to explain anything even remotely complicated>>: As Hyperion said, I'm engineer. That means I've spent 4 years training and many months professionally explaining HIGHLY technical concepts to people who, as you've put it, can't find their own ass.

And I usually succeed, I might add.
Josh
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 01:14:59 PM
IP: 64.168.30.104

Over slep slightly this morning, but that's ok, still made it to class because we had to switch rooms because the paint fumes would have made us enjoy the class. It's modern art, not like it can make it look much worse. Other than that, just beboping along.

Spacebabie- Smartasses, in here?! Perish the thought. *Smooch* I love a sarcastic woman.

TGS stuff- Don't worry we know what we're doing ];)

Christine- Is Elflore II out for purchase?

wow, not much else I can think of.

"Look, I have ten fingers!"
-When Tony was drunk-

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:53:42 PM
IP: 129.120.175.30

Wow; I am in a wonderfully good mood today...I hope it lasts.

Internet connection is being “spiffy” once again. This pleases me.

Well now, let's see what we have here on Ye Olde Board o' Messages

Spacebabie><Not really part of my traditional holiday fare, but it works>Well, there's always the Capitalist Christmas Carol:
Deck the halls with advertising, fa la la la la, la la la la
'Tis the time for merchandising, fa la la la la, la la la la
Profit never needs a reason, fa la la la la, la la la la
Get the money it's the season, fa la la la la, la la la la

lain><khooker.exe>Could be worse, you could have the dreaded "tjhooker.exe". Only thing to do then is to set fire to your computer.
<cause im NICE> Yeah, too nice. I'd have keyed his car and stolen his girlfriend already.
<*snuggles poor little gunjack and heads out*> Where's my gun...?

<Gside><meat>Is there anything greater? I really don't think so. Meat is hard to beat. *holds up large sign upon wish is written "You all might as well say it"*
<Advanced jello molding> Any topic involving jello should involve a pool, at least two females and a maximum of two bikinis.

Todd Jensen><basilisks could be pretty useful in discouraging visits from Anansi> Wouldn't a 55-gallon drum of RAID be more effective? You don't need to feed it. Or keep track of it, so you don't get turned to stone when it walks into your bedroom unexpectedly. I mean, really, if I ever get visited by a giant, talking spider, I'm calling up Ortho and having them carpet bomb the place with malathion. Then I'm going and pouring out all my booze.

Bud-Clare> I'm impressed by your logic and agree with you wholeheartedly. Well said.
<You've obviously never tried to explain anything even remotely complicated> He's an engineer.

"Uh-oh"
"What?"
"The dead have come back to life and are heading this way."
"Really?
"Yeah, looks like Phire_Kat and Impfac"
"No kidding? Kind of a small shambling horde, isn't it?"
"Yeah, mostly just a shambling pair. It gets beaten by a shamblingthree of a kind, I suppose. I guess they came back to haunt us all."
"Hmm. Well, why don't we walk briskly to the car and drive away?"
"Plan!”

Impfac><but we should also kill ourselves> Well, hey, feel free to punch your own ticket. Since I don't know you from Adam, it certainly won't effect my life any.
Last bit of advice, make sure you get it right. I have it on good authority that the only thing worse than suicide is a failed attempt. Not only are you a sucker for not taking the heat, you can't even figure out a way out of the kitchen. I've been told its extremely embarrassing.

And just in case someone is annoyed about my cavalier attitude, I'll say this: Neither I nor anyone else that reads this room casually will change your/his mind. In fact, even your close friends will, at best, temporarily change your mind. If you really want to live, you'll make that decision on your own. If not, you'll be fertilizer. In any event, you know my thoughts on the subject. Good luck.

Green Baron><all that traveling will make me feel truly alive> Oh, believe you me, it did. It was the coming back that was the tricky part.
<Of course there is always more to see>Always. If you ever need some company, let me know.

Imzadi><giant stone penis> Yeah, well. We have to annoy the Puritans somehow.
<MAC disciple>Oddly enough, there's a Mac store near my house. Their advertising X-leopard or something. I may need to survail the establishment and see how much business they're doing. Although, I admit, those half-sphere things with the integrated flat-screen are damned sexy. If I ever get back into graphics, I may have to pick one up.
<If Chewbacca is a wookie>Curses! The dreaded Wookie defense! Never in my life have I hated a shag rug so much.
<Newton and Aristotle> Bah! Newton was a hack and Aristotle...hmm…well, I cant' think of anything bad about Aristotle right now. But what do you have today? Hmm? Steven fricking Hawking?! Real poetic soul right there, hmmm? The guy sounds like Shatner on barbiturates with one of those cheesy robot voice changers. Sheesh, what a looser... ;-)
<Sex isn't on that list> It's a combination of excellence, courage and enlightenment.

In reference to "nancing" I invite the CR in general to follow yon link. And enjoy.

Lila><next time I seduce a geek> Right here! And I'm a damned good looking geek too.

And that should wrap that up. A final thought:
If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumber'd here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream...
****************************************
"No boom?"
"No boom."
"No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What? Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here. Boom, sooner or later. BOOM!"
Hyperion
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:42:48 PM
IP: 151.199.242.245

Josh> << <>: Is she cute?>>
I don't like you.

<< <<My father was a pompous ass, who subconsciously contrived to make everyone around him totally dependant on him so that he could feel important>>: This is a common trait of rich people.>>
He wasn't rich. And what does that have to do with anything?

<<Then please don't pontificate on how philosophy isn't crap. Those are major names.>>
I _didn't_. I said that it wasn't _all_ crap. I firmly believe that a lot of it _is_ crap, but that's not the same as saying that it's all crap. Most of what's on tv is crap; that doesn't mean that we all throw out our tvs and refuse to watch any of it. It just means that you've got to avoid the crap.

<<These philosophers usually write their own stuff. If they can't explain their own idea, then either the idea is probably crap.>>
You've obviously never tried to explain anything even remotely complicated.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:20:28 PM
IP: 24.169.113.216

That cold spell is gone and we have mild weather.

The end is near for the first semester. One more and I can finally graduate

***********************SPOILER TIME*************************
Boston Public: Seante finally snapped. I like the new teacher, especiall yer way for getting the class to admit to her that they were faking the bathroom thing.

Buffy:Good episode. The big bad putting the Whammy on Spike. Making him bite and sire.

SmallVille. Clarks metalshop S was cute. Feh JTT irks me. Nice to see that Lex might get a love interest.
***********************SPOILERS END*************************

Replies:
Hyperion<<>>Not really part of my traditional holiday fare, but it works.

Firestorm>>>Dang Why doesn’t UCF do that? I’d be happy to pose.

Silverbolt<<>>What? Making it illegal for stupid people to breed is pointless?<<<she knew far to much about the wizarding world than she should.>>>She is an overachiever and best candidate to be Prefect of head Girl

Gside<<<Except for one of my ex roomates.>>>So the only ones who would suspect would be the paranoid schizos that no one would really believe?

Josh<<>>Lets see I have today, Thursday, Monday Tuesday, and the two final classes in early December. Hey I only have six more days as well.<<<Not nearly as funny as it sounded in your head.>>>Can you give me lesons in being a smartass?<<<Never, duh.>>>I can see that you are ready to answer the newbie questions.<<<Not really. It'd stick out like a sore thumb.>>>Yeah but my enemies would think the hero lives there.<<<We suspect them of selling horsemeat, if RHPS is to be believed.>>>Soon it will be the meat of the unbelievers Mwa ha ha ha! <<<Its open late, its cheap, its warm, and you don't have to be in a right state of mind to order.>>>and they have great skillets and slams.<<<The movie is LONG though, almost 3
hours!>>>Now I know not to order a soda.<<<Do that a girls everywhere will beat a path to your door>>>Oh wise one teach me the ways of the smartass

Green Baron<<<green baron is the cr whore ;>>>I think I have seen that written here before.

Lain<<<the official line is "winter, 2003" ie sometime before spring, 2003.. honest!>>>Before March…Got it.

DPH<<<do realize that last week Timedancer season 4 finale was released, right?>>>Yes I do. I also know that newbies WILL be asking those questions. Gotta keep you guys on your toes.

Mooncat<<>>I prefer gorgonzola<<<Lemon and Cherry flavored Coke -- Well, I tried them, in Diet Coke, and I am so very sorry I did.>>>I love Diet Cherry Coke. Lemon coke is okay. I prefer Lemon Pepsi though. I LOVE Vanilla coke. I heard there is a diet version of that stuff. I hope they make a diet version of DP Red Fusion soon. I haven’t tried the Blue Pepsi yet.

Patrick<<<Just an encouragement to go see it if you haven't already.>>>I will…This Sunday
Christine<<<sexy Scottish-accented jailbait in a Quidditch robe >>>I thought Oliver Wood was Irish? Oh well both Irish and Scottish accents turn me on.<<<I'll be finally finishing my smut epic tonight >>>This calls for cookies and Long Island Iced Tea!<<<but now it is officially long enough to submit to a sleazy paperback company ... so I'm gonna. What the hell>>>Go for it, I’m going to keep my fingers crossed for you.<<<Click for The Fellowship of the Peep>>>Some people have too much time on their hands if they go to the trouble to create sites like this. Kinda likes those Adams’ films with the Thumbs
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:23:33 AM
IP: 67.24.95.15

oooooooooooooo buffy and angel!

******BUFFY AND ANGEL AND OTHER RANDOM SPOILERAGE*******
why is it lately that these episodes have been SOOOO GOOD!!!!
buffys big bad this year is GREAT! it kickes glorys pasty pale little whiny arse ALL over town :P the nerd troupe? well.. they dont even rank :P angels big bad is kinda cheezy, but the symbolism ROCKS!
wesley as lara croft was hilarious but.. where was he hiding that shotgun? the slow-mo in the fight scenes was kinda wierd. im glad to see in both series' that theyre using inter-character tension, instead of introducing new characters. poor angel :(

and has anyone else seen those "you love your favourites" commercials from mcdonalds? hate their yucky dead cow on a bun but.. THE COMMERCIALS ARE SO FUNNY!!!!! the light sabre one is the best..

**********END RANDOM SPOILERAGE**************

josh>> << My money is still on Never. Closest without going over wins!>> wins what, exactly? better make it good ;)

*snuggles poor little gunjack and heads out*
lain
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:16:48 AM
IP: 65.93.77.139

Today going to finally watch the extended LotR 4 disk set =)

Happy Happy Joy Joy

People who already watched theirs are raving about it.

And I get free Pizza =) Yum! Haven't had any in so very, very long... Papa Johns, =)

Oh, and skimming through past posts, Signs is an excellent, quirky, movie. Not as Hollywood polished as the previous films, but it had a lot of the Sixth Sense and Unbreakable flavor it's writer/director is famous for. My friends and I loved it when it came out.

Gotta get things done today.. eeks...

later
MC
Mooncat
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:24:41 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Wow this comment room is full! Doese anyone know if we will be able to see meaters tonight? Or was yesterday the last night?
Ravenes
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:00:56 AM
IP: 24.86.117.45

wheee....
three hours till due, and I'm still not close to being done. I hate deadlines...
Gunjack "Life Stinks!" Valentine
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 06:10:59 AM
IP: 192.133.129.164

Yeesh what a day yesterday!

Took my Uthonium grade two music exam (Dunno if i've passed but i'm optomistic)

Saw Harry Potter to celebrate and I enjoyed it a lot. I must say there were some bits i wished were in the film that were in the book like the death day party and PEEVES!!! It's not fair! Rik mayall would have been fantastic if he had been in the film like he was ment to.

Also why did Hermione get so many lines? She said a lot of things that Ron was ment to and she knew far to much about the wizarding world than she should.

Also it was great seeing the guy who played arthur Weasley (I keep forgetting his name) He was excellent I must say because he was great in the other shows he was in! (Watch the fast show it's great!)

Must say Tom Riddle's hair style was pretty weird though, but Lockhart was very funny! And speaking of him I must say I stayed till after the end credits to see this ending and... I was disapointed. I laughed, but I was hoping for more because of the hype of what was meant to happen.

And as for the ending, GACK! Why that ending? the treated Hagrid like HE was the hero and HE saved the day! No he didn't! Yeesh.

Oh yes and hooray for Dobby! (Even if he DID cause Harry to break his arm and resulted in him loosing his arm boned, oh GOD that was sick!)

Oh well I hope they show the next film soon!

Mmm... makes you proud to be British. *^_^*
Silverbolt
EnglandWednesday, November 20, 2002 05:47:07 AM
IP: 212.50.183.100

It's three AM, and the magic 8-ball says sleep is unlikely. I'm going to finish this essay by dawn, or die trying. YEE HAW!
Gunjack "Lonely Man" Valentine
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 03:54:08 AM
IP: 192.133.129.164

okay so I said 6 more days, but really its only 2. Tomorrow and Thursday, and after that I can pretty much sleep till December 2.

Been busy studying for my structural analysis midterm. I will not screw up this one like I did the last.

Silvadel: <<how could the morning have come so soon>>: Same way it does every day.

Green Baron: <>: I think you made those up.

Leo: <<Why is the enterance to the chamber of secrets er….. where it is? Was Slitherin(sp?) a perv?>>: Slytherin, I think. And no, he just put it in the least expected place. NO ONE would look for a secret passage way in a girls bathroom.

Bud Clare: <>: Is she cute? <<My father was a pompous ass, who subconsciously contrived to make everyone around him totally dependant on him so that he could feel important>>: This is a common trait of rich people. <<Don't know him>>: Oh. Well, he's antagonistic and paranoid by nature 8-) <>: Then please don't pontificate on how philosophy isn't crap. Those are major names. <<the problem wasn't so much with the idea as with the explanation>>: These philosophers usually write their own stuff. If they can't explain their own idea, then either the idea is probably crap. <>: Hehe. Silly chicks. <>: Know any women that big?

Impfac: <<You’re heartless and cruel>>: I prefer "ambitious, ruthless, devious, and practical". <<Leave the suicidal people alone>>: No, I think not. <<It might be a big joke to you, but its not to us. I doubt you could understand it though>>: *IT* is not a big joke to me. Suicide is a very serious matter. YOU are a big joke to me. Your holier-than-thou attitude, mixed with your superiority complex, mixed with your attention whore complex make me want to bitch-slap you. You openly invite flames and attempt to invoke pity, then whine when you don't get your desired response. As Crzy says to me: "Put up or shut up". <<I’m not gay dude!!!! Ask my girlfriend>>: Yeah whatever. If your girlfriend is a skinny white guy that you met in prison... <>: Unfortunately, you didn't learn from that mistake. <<This room is just like real life, only they don’t pretend not to care>>: Then it isn't like real life, is it? <<they’ll attack me for wanting to die again>>: I firmly believe that we only do this to the people that annoy us. If I were entertaining suicidal thoughts, I'd expect that my closer friends would be trying to support me just as Gabe did for you, and that a few people would be egging me on. This is why I got enough of a life to not have to come here for emotional support.

Lain: <<death isnt nearly as romantic and glamourous as you think>>: It is neither, in fact. <<because the intellect is only apparent>>: Certainly explains a lot. <<lay off the torment>>: I think not. <<cause im NICE>>: There's a line between being nice and being a welcome mat. <<the official line is "winter, 2003" ie sometime before spring, 2003.. honest>>: My money is still on Never. Closest without going over wins!

DPH: <<It may took a long time to release everything once it is written>>: Why don't you just release them as they're written? <<if the Want-Ad is unsuccessfull>>: Then maybe I'll send some of my troops.

Mooncat: <>: Good job. Web developers often have a serious problem of not testing their sites on enough browsers. The nice thing about OS X is that I can run virtual PC with many different OS's and browsers to test, as well as several mac browsers on many OS's. <<stubborn rebellion against the Microsoft ongoing attempt to control the vertical and the horizontal>>: Mac. <<I've noticed lately a lot of pages won't work with any browser BUT I.E>>: Actually, that's usually not true. They just say that and put in a check for browsers that aren't I.E. Mozilla and many other browsers allow you to identify yourself as IE so that you can view the pages normally. <<you can block out most pop ups, and pop unders, which makes it worth my while to use it as my new browser>>: Have you used tabbed browsing? <<The pages that wouldn't open in Netscape doesn't open in Mozilla either though>>: Well, Mozilla is the engine behind netscape. So it makes sense. <<each sip tastes like Lemon Soap>>: Ewwww! <<Now experimenting with ways to swallow without actually having to taste>>: Earlier comments aside, you do realize you don't HAVE to drink something just because you bought it, right? <<I'll drown my sorrows tonight by playing with sparklers>>: Don't set yourself ablaze. <<Ginny Weasley didn't have the character build up she really deserved, because she was intrinsic to the actual plot>>: Yeah, they really didn't harass Harry enough for her having a crush on him.

Kathy: <<Makes me feel like a cradle robber>>: And I thought I was bad with three year age differences. <<it did seem incredibly long to me even while it was obvious they'd cut lots from the story>>: Really? I think they should have kept more stuff in. Longer movies are good! <<That stuff will rot your brain>>: Just like cell phones and video games.

Gside: <<what about tactle sensitivity?>>: I think that was a point. <<Meat with meat is better>>: Without a bun, your hands would be covered in meat and cheese! <<you must be boxer>>: !@#$. I hate being boxer. <>: I don't want to be around for that. <<You'd be surprised>>: Ni! <>: Better hidden from idiot users than easily accessible. <>: No, I don't think so.

Alesia: <<because im very curious to know if apep rules the world or domething?>>: What on earth are you talking about? Look, TGS is like TV shows. No one knows what's going to happen until it airs.

50. My main computers will have their own special operating system that will be completely incompatible with standard IBM and Macintosh laptops.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 03:00:20 AM
IP: 64.168.30.104

hey does any body know about the timedancer seasons? because im very curious to know if apep rules the world or domething? if you know drop me a line on my email adress,k, bye!
alesia - [anglweeza14@aol.com]
ca, usa
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 01:32:10 AM
IP: 198.81.26.201

Lain> <<khooker.exe>>: Don't got it, but I have known of system files with odd icons.

Gunjack> <<Extreme perceptiveness needs no justification>>: And what about tactle sensitivity?

Imzadi> <<Meat>>: Meat is good. Meat with meat is better. Meat with meat with cheese is even quite nice. And meat with meat with cheese with a nice wine sauce is saltimbolca.
<>: No, you wouldn't. I think it's the source of the phrase "nancy boy."
<<Can I still be Josh?>>: No, you must be boxer.
<<I'd bet not>>: You'll have to take it up with them, as they provide the guarantee, I'm only in charge of the good time.
<<Don't get too excited, I may let you down again>>: If you do, I may do something... unnatural.
<<Please don't say that>>: You'd be surprised.
<<What now?>>: See above. Good stuff, suppoed to be made with veal, prosuitto, mozzerella, and a dry white, but you can substitute chicken and red.
<<Doesn't count, he was on opium>>: Nah, just a pedophile who admired the dean's daughter.
<<Not to mention totally undesirable>>: You'd be surprised.
<<Silly windows people>>: I dislike hidden files on principle.

Mooncat> <>: Welcome.

Imzadi> <<Do that a girls everywhere will beat a path to your door>>: I think you're confused.

Christine> <<my smut epic>>: "I do have a cause, though. Smut. I'm for it."
<<The Fellowship of the Peep>>: I think I have that version of the Ring. Came on a bookmark.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:39:02 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

Christine - Excellent Peeps Link!!! *^_^* A drop dead funny parody of LotR. Thanks for passing that on. I love the Peeps pages. I wish I could send you the Lemon Coke as a thanks (because you said you liked it) and the Jelly Belly beans as a chaser.

Congrats on hitting a word count high =) I love your original fiction. I hope it sells.

back to the fan fic coal mines...

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:27:54 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Christine> Awww. Ok. I like the Real Lord of the Rings. BWE. (But whatever)
Ravenes
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:05:36 AM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Ravenes > yes, of course it is. But the Peeps thing is a parody.
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:30:28 PM
IP: 65.239.47.25

Christine> Nice. But isn't Lord of the Rings copy righted? Like all it's chars and things like that? Strange story though.
Ravenes
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:14:43 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Me again, with another wacky link. Click for The Fellowship of the Peep.

Mooncat > if you're sick of the lemon soda, you can always send it to us ... I love the stuff!
Christine - [<--- Lord of the Peeps!]
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:53:02 PM
IP: 65.239.47.196

Hey all! Ya no chance... To bad. Would have really liked to see them.
Ravenes
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:52:11 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

I still have some Jelly Belly beans left over from my Harry Potter excursion. I went to the candy store and took two beans of each Jelly Belly flavor. Not the Bertie Bot flavors, because I'm not about to pay 2 dollars for a vomit flavoured jelly bean, and all the regular ones are available for much cheaper. I wouldn't mind trying the sardine ones though.

I got shushed because my candy bag crinkled during the movie. Tsk.

Went with friends on the opening Friday, and showed up very early (around 4 pm) but every single show except the ones at 10pm were sold out. There were showings every half hour, so there were lots of people watching Harry Potter that night. We grabbed our tickets and went to eat, then toy store, then mall, then bookstore. We had huge amounts of time to kill. Me and a friend both picked up copies of the deluxe Lord of the Rings. yah! free ticket! yah! --- and each grabbed an issue 1 of the English NewType =)

I don't think anyone has mentioned yet this movie was only 10 minutes short of being THREE HOURS LONG. Have they? It did go fast for the viewer, but don't go into the movie with a LARGE diet Dr. Pepper.

I only had one real complaint, and that is that Ginny Weasley didn't have the character build up she really deserved, because she was intrinsic to the actual plot. =(

Otherwise, it was marvelous, except that there were hoards and hoards of children in the theatre, tiny ones. What were their parents thinking of? Little voices talked all through the movie... sigh...

Now I have half a bag of Jelly Belly's left. hmmm...

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:50:08 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Meteor shower > no chance of seeing it from here; the 3rd driest October on record is being followed by flood-warning November. Drat!

Kathy > oh, tell me about it ... sexy Scottish-accented jailbait in a Quidditch robe ... be still my heart!

HP movie > saw it Friday, all of us liked it, some disappointments and things that could have done better, but Branagh was great and I have a new favorite villain in Lucius Malfoy. Went on at length about it in my LJ.

Writing updates > just heard that Truegold (ElfLore III) is slated for a May release. I'll be finally finishing my smut epic tonight (75,000 words and counting, good grief, but now it is officially long enough to submit to a sleazy paperback company ... so I'm gonna. What the hell). Next week will be dedicated to the new Guardians fanfic. My new goal is to always have at least 6 things out in circulation, be they short story submissions, agent queries, or book proposals. At the moment, I've got 7, since one agent rejection just came back today. Whee.
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:28:33 PM
IP: 65.239.47.196

PATRICK AND KATHY - Since you both mentioned having seen the new "Harry Potter" movie, I thought that I'd bring up one element about it here (since the two of you were both on the TGS staff at the time that we were including that particular mythical species in the series) - the business with the basilisk reminded me a little of our use of them during the Second Unseelie War arc (in particular the bit about spiders fearing basilisks; I recall mentioning it as a bit of actual basilisk lore and speculating about how basilisks could be pretty useful in discouraging visits from Anansi).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:11:38 PM
IP: 65.57.61.100

I've seen the new "Harry Potter" movie twice now, and it didn't seem overly long either time. The pacing was rather good, I thought... better than "Lord of the Rings." I won't post any spoilers. Just an encouragement to go see it if you haven't already. I really enjoyed it, and I hadn't even read any of the books until last week.
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 09:31:09 PM
IP: 67.38.248.227

impfac: << <Yes, life is hard, but it's also fundamentally pointless if you never change.> You’re half right. It is pointless. >>
Yeah, of course. What was I thinking? Any more tidbits of great cosmic truth that you'd deign to share with us, O Wise and Knowledgeable One?

If people seem to be less than sympathetic towards you, it's probably because you seem to be not just depressed, but actually _enjoying_ being depressed (insofar as the terms "enjoying" and "depressed" can be used in the same sentence). You don't just talk about committing suicide, you actually _pontificate_ about it. You claim that life is pointless, but there are several _billion_ people proving you wrong just by existing. If that many people are able to find an adequate reason to get out of bed in the morning, that's a pretty sure sign that there are reasons to live, even if they aren't always obvious.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 09:29:45 PM
IP: 24.169.113.216

Phire_kat: <we could die together and make it a romantic tragedy!!> Hense the suicide pact =] But, it won’t be a tragedy so much, will it? Hehe, my parents know we have that pact too =P

Impfac - [impfac@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 09:24:47 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

I saw Harry Potter today. Much I thought was funny. I love anything to do with the Weasley and the Captain of the Griffyndor Quidich team... Meowww. Makes me feel like a cradle robber, but oh my that accent.... On the down side it did seem incredibly long to me even while it was obvious they'd cut lots from the story.

Ooops! Time for Buffy and tonight it's All About Spike!

Mooncat > Try holding your nose. No seriously. Taste and scent go hand in hand. And shame on you for buying diet anyway. That stuff will rot your brain.

kathy
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 07:55:45 PM
IP: 66.167.50.148

josh <<And we can't understand why she puts up with you>> me neither lain why is that?

*pokes Gabriel in the gut* fine don't say hi :oP

impfac<<They’ll be thrilled when I kill myself and you as well. This room is just like real life, only they don’t pretend not to care>. we could die together and make it a romantic tragedy!!And haunt all those who mocked us!! *hugz* or even better you and me make millions and are the happiest people on earth and laugh at all! MWA HA HA Ha ha...*cough* anyways....but i do know where your coming from.

Lain - stop nooging me I don't wanna go bald like GJV! ;o)I still say "punch drunk love" sucked cat crap :oP and I'll make sure books are done before anything happens to me! NYAH :oP la la la *throws cat off desk*

DPH <<Considering what we met under bad circumstances >> we did?? hell all I remember was razzing you a bit and having some fun and you got into a tizzy about it and then wouldn't talk to me like a normal person just coz of a little bit of weirdness on my part, and when I was being "civil" if that was even possible and you shoved yer hand in my face every time, just cos you wanted to talk to lian :oP poopy doo

and on a happier note I HAVE HAD AN INTERVIEW YESTERDAY AND TWO TOMORROW I RULE BABY YEAH and then maybe two more when I call two of the other placse back *dance around* I could be working a belleair music! WOOHOO!!!...I need a warmer blanket :o( *wraps her tacky house coat around herself* ttyl ppl of tgs!

Phire_kat
Middle Of Nowhere, Novofluoxtine, Canada
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 07:21:32 PM
IP: 65.93.23.5

...
Phire_kat
Middle Of Nowhere
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 06:56:31 PM
IP: 65.93.23.5

Mooncat: <<Now experimenting with ways to swallow without actually having to taste>>: Do that a girls everywhere will beat a path to your door...
Josh
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 06:54:57 PM
IP: 64.168.30.104

dph>> <> january 1? who said january 1?? *I* said "winter 2003." spring doesnt start till the 20 or 23 of march ;)

im still rootin for the miracle..
lain
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 05:42:12 PM
IP: 65.93.77.139

Love and Hate -- I love Mozilla. In prep for overhauling and creating some web pages, I began downloading new browsers. I used to use Netscape 4.+ , mainly due to stubborn rebellion against the Microsoft ongoing attempt to control the vertical and the horizontal -- but I've noticed lately a lot of pages won't work with any browser BUT I.E. =( =( =( -- that really bites. I am loath to go to Netscape 6+ because they were so very buggy, but 7.0 is out now. Opera free version has ads. Next. Mozilla... well Mozilla is simply peachy! :: purrsss :: By adjusting preferences, you can block out most pop ups, and pop unders, which makes it worth my while to use it as my new browser.

The pages that wouldn't open in Netscape doesn't open in Mozilla either though, =( Otherwise this would be so perfect.

Lemon and Cherry flavored Coke -- Well, I tried them, in Diet Coke, and I am so very sorry I did. I'm drinking Lemon right now, and each sip tastes like Lemon Soap. I made the mistake of grabbing a 24 pack, and now vow never EVER to get a 24 pack of a new flavor without having tested it out in a single first. Now experimenting with ways to swallow without actually having to taste.

Meteor Shower -- I didn't see a single sparkle =( I feel ripped. Fortunately I have left over fireworks so I'll drown my sorrows tonight by playing with sparklers =) I have some super ones that change colors and shoot off tiny spark showers as they burn down *^_^* *^_^* *^_^*

Gah... I so detest this Lemon Diet Coke. I am going to have to give the rest of the case to someone else, but I don't know anyone I dislike enough to do this to. I don't think I'm going to be able to finish the can >_< blegh...!!!

:: clears mind, then focuses on thoughts of sparkles ::

Hmmm... Exercise Time. Sigh...

Paid bills yesterday. My karma is clean, but my wallet is flat.

later
Mooncat

mooncat
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 05:23:11 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Spacebabie - <When is the next episode of TGS coming out?> You do realize that last week Timedancer season 4 finale was released, right? I respectfully disagree with Lain. (Sorry, Lain) Barring a major miracle, I would not expect to see a new story released by January 1, but don't quote me on that. Looking at the available material, be ready. It may took a long time to release everything once it is written.

Imzadi - < If I learn the whereabouts of the one artifact which can destroy me, I will not send all my troops out to seize it. Instead I will send them out to seize something else and quietly put a Want-Ad in the local paper.> And if the Want-Ad is unsuccessfull?

Gunjack - <Writing a paper on why Christians should remove themselves from the American political process. Tough going, but a satisfying topic.> I respectfully disagree. I believe if somebody wants to run as a Christian politician, then said person needs to make a big distinction between his/her opinions on certain issues not mentioned in the Bible and those issues mentioned in the Bible. No, Imzadi, I don't want religious courts around; after I read about the Crusades, I became more convinced of the need to keep any church from running secular government.

Phire_Kat - <yeah thanks for ignoring my questions, I keep forgeting how unfriendly this place is> Considering what we met under bad circumstances (when I was trying to reach Lain online), consider the relationship still evolving.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 05:16:21 PM
IP: 204.94.193.17

impfac>> <<Watch, they’ll attack me for wanting to die again>> *breaks out the can of whoop-ass* dont MAKE me come over there.. cause you KNOW i will <<You know how much I want to die, and I know how much you want to die, but they’ll just make sport of you and take utter glee in it. Trust me. It’s a big joke to them>> nah. i just think its utterly stupid. once upon a time, i used to be suicidal, too *holds up wrists* (sorry, yeah i know, not very creative :P) however, after i watched someone i loved die in my arms.. my perspective on death kinda.. changed. i understand where youre comin from.. but i still think its daft :P death isnt nearly as romantic and glamourous as you think.. and if you kill yourself WILLINGLY.. well then.. im afraid ill have trouble being sympathetic to that. thats just the way i am. <<And no, noone will care, here or in real life>> *eyes narrow* is that so?
ps. got your glasses yet?

and as for you, pk.. << "Punch Drunk love" and "signs" SUCKED!!>> "punch drunk love" was HILARIOUS!!! but ok yeah, "signs" sucked. i didnt really watch "ghost ship" cause i was hiding behind the seat. the parts i DID see made me wish i HADNT seen them.. wire.. *shudder* <<Some day you can all find my work in a book store>> if you dont kill yourself first :P *noogies with gusto* << well unlike you I only come here once and a while to check up and see if anything new has happened>> if it had, ida told you <<pastsio>> if ya wanna write for TGS, ya might wanna work on that spelling a little ;) *noogies more* ;)

lila>> <> indeed not. << In a room of such apparent intellect, how can it be possible for the top ten to be so complicated EVERY SINGLE WEEK?>> because the intellect is only apparent ;) oh and.. got instant messengers??? :D

josh>> hey lay off the torment, willya? :P <<And we can't understand why she puts up with you. 8-)>> cause im NICE :D

spacebabie>> <<When is the next episode of TGS coming out?>> the official line is "winter, 2003" ie sometime before spring, 2003.. honest!
lain
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 03:43:35 PM
IP: 65.93.76.189

Me: Nothing new... just more depressed and suicidal than normal. *shurgs* I indulge it utterly in the hope I’ll spiral low enough to kill myself... it’s working so far. My driving is out of control again. I’ve lost faith in the idea of Christianity too (Jesus and God are frauds for weakhearted people) and haven’t gone to the doctor yet. I did find out something neat though: It’s REALLY hard to commit someone against their will =] Even for a doctor. So I can be as openly suicidal as I want, they can’t do jack s**t about it =D Hopefully I’ll kill myself or get killed.

************************************************************

Bud: <Yes, life is hard, but it's also fundamentally pointless if you never change.> You’re half right. It is pointless.

Lila: <Because, Impfac, it would be mildly uncomfortable and extremely PERMANENT. ;-) Don't waste. Waste=bad.> That’s how I feel about life, except it’s extremely uncomfortable. I’m actually so sad I’m in physical pain right now... and I don’t know why. It’s been so for over a year... I deserve the right to kill myself, just as does any suffering person have the right to self termination. I envy the people that do it. I have a coworker that killed himself.

Hyperon: <But you would be if you dropped out of trade school, got on welfare rolls, used the money to buy beer and spent the rest of your life in a drunken stupor.> I want to :-( <there is some serious next-level sh*t going on that everyone is welcome to be a part of.> Yeah right. It doesn’t matter anyway: we’re all going to die and cease existing. So, who cares what you do with your life? You’re morally equal in death having been Adolf Hitler or Mother Terresa... but Hitler had more fun.

Okay, that’s a bit tongue in cheek, and we should be good, but we should also kill ourselves. Anyone who recognizes the truth of life will want to.

Josh> You’re heartless and cruel. Leave the suicidal people alone. It might be a big joke to you, but its not to us. I doubt you could understand it though. I’m not gay dude!!!! Ask my girlfriend.

Phire_Kat: <Don't worry Josh I'm still waiting for some horrible mishap to take my life away. Even if your the only one who cares that I'm not here...> Don’t give these sadistic ****s the satisfaction of being publically suicidal. I made that mistake already. You know how much I want to die, and I know how much you want to die, but they’ll just make sport of you and take utter glee in it. Trust me. It’s a big joke to them. They’ll be thrilled when I kill myself and you as well. This room is just like real life, only they don’t pretend not to care. They’ll only make it worse for you like they did for me with encouragement and jokes and insults...

Don’t worry. We’ll both kill ourselves someday. And no, noone will care, here or in real life. Watch, they’ll attack me for wanting to die again: so don’t make the same mistake babe!!!

impfac - [impfac@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 03:07:19 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

Oops... forgot.

Green Baron> Hi. I've been wondering what happened to you. You didn't pocket any of the money, did you? ;)

"I am so glad to see you in here"
I didn't exactly plan it... it just kinda happened. Go figure.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 02:59:48 PM
IP: 24.169.113.216

gargoyles rock!
-- <a href="http://www.mediajunk.com">m</a>.<a href="http://heraghty.diaryland.com">h</a>.
michael heraghty - [m@m.mmm]
irelandTuesday, November 19, 2002 02:41:03 PM
IP: 213.116.42.230

Josh> "<<it would be enough if everyone could just locate their own damned asses>>: I don't know any people with that problem."
Examples: One of my old roommates was constantly complaining about her lack of money, and trying to blame it on the rest of us (allegedly wasting hot water, etc). She was the only person in the house who _didn't_ have a job, because her parents were giving her $500 a month. (rent was $190 per person.) So how was it that she spent all that money? $200+ per month on cigarettes. But she tried to blame her money problems on the rest of us (she sometimes actually turned the heat OFF in the middle of winter to save money), and on the government for making her pay taxes, even though she's never had a job that paid well enough for that to be much of an issue. She's completely unwilling to take responsibility for _anything_ in her life.

I have a friend who's a borderline nympho due to self-esteem issues, and also seems to have a fear of commitment, but is totally unaware that there are any problems. My father was a pompous ass, who subconsciously contrived to make everyone around him totally dependant on him so that he could feel important, _and_ he had a really nasty temper and generally behaved like a child, but he died still absolutely convinced that he was damned near perfect.

My definition of someone who can't locate their own ass is anyone who is completely oblivious to their own problems, and/or doesn't have even the faintest inkling of why they have those specific problems (since you haven't a chance in hell of changing if you don't understand how you got that way in the first place).

"<<It seems to me that you're either being deliberately antagonistic or paranoid>> This is impfac you're talking to."
Don't know him.

"<<What did you read?>>: Kant, Scheffler, Foot, Rychman, Kuhn, Nagel, Sidgwick, Mackie, Stevenson, Harman, Railton, Hume...the list goes on."
*L* I know nothing about any of them. While some people may benefit from reading philosophy, my general belief is that any philosophical idea that's worth thinking about, I can damn well think of myself. I think about everything, sooner or later. (And that came out sounding way more arrogant than I meant it to. What I meant was... some people read philosophy just to basically memorize it, so that they don't have to bother thinking for themselves, while other people read it to start themselves thinking (since even if you disagree with something, you're still thinking about it). I spend so much time thinking as it is that the last thing I need is more encouragement.)

"What it shows is a group of people who lacked the ability to refine and reason out their contradictory ideas (their OWN contradictory ideas, not ideas that contradict with other philosophers')"
It's safe to assume that at least a small percentage of the times that you're referring to, the problem wasn't so much with the idea as with the explanation. The more complex the idea, the more evil it is to try to explain it to someone else. That's why people look at me funny sometimes... (one of the reasons, anyway.)

"<<They apparently believe that I don't know how to write a research paper. They suck>>: They shouldn't give anyone the benefit of the doubt."
Except me. :P
I'm tired of wasting energy on ridiculously simple writing assignments that a small child ought to be able to handle. ("Write an essay comparing two things." Argh! I wrote an essay called "Ways in Which a Boomerang and a Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich Are Absolutely Nothing Alike," just to try to keep my brain from going numb. (I got an A.))

"I was amazed at how badly college students write."
During my first college english course, we got assignments like (and including) the one above... and after the first essay, I heard one of the girls in my class say (in a really vapid tone), "Writing essays is _really_ hard." *whimpers*

"Meanwhile, over in the states we've got a giant stone penis that's a tourist attraction."
And it's very pointy, so I can only assume that it was built by someone who hates women. Ouch.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:54:05 PM
IP: 24.169.113.216

And now a moment of silence for Janes Coburn.
(how ironic that he was first on the list to replace Dumbledore)
Leo
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:39:18 AM
IP: 68.10.125.229

****”Meteor Shit!!!”*** (Stephen King: Creepshow, 1982)

Letdown. Experts said there would be as many as 350 strikes per hour during the peak. I went outside at 5:15am and only saw 6 before I went back inside 20 minutes later. :p Two of them exploded though, so that was cool.

*****Harry Potter Spoilers S@#t*****

House Elf = Jar-Jar Binks = .....

Why is the enterance to the chamber of secrets er….. where it is? Was Slitherin(sp?) a perv?

Todd> Thanks for the tip.

----------------------------------------------

There was a joke in our paper on Sunday about possible Dumbledore replacements listing their pros and cons. Click my name for the link.

Leo - [<- The New Dumbledore?]
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:29:32 AM
IP: 68.10.125.229

gubjack> <<Tonight's project> OHHHHH!!! I wanna help!! *raises hand and jumps impatiently*

Gabriel "gaygoyle"
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 08:41:00 AM
IP: 66.169.210.231

Greetings all. I am sorry I have not posted in a while or responded to a variety of emails, but I will soon. Last week, I was in Germany for a money run that involved over ten million dollars, so I had to keep it hush hush :) I am today in Macedonia just having completed another bank run and I also got to see the birthplace of Mother Teresa. I should have pictures ready by Gathering in June provided I can make it, but I should, unless they extend my Kosovo tour by two months, which has been rumored.

I have some googlisms :)

green baron is an unknown
green baron is one of two import only magno figures that are identical except for their color
green baron is obviously green and king atlas is a blood red color
green baron is too cute
green baron is the cr whore ;
green baron is languishing in his cell
green baron is brown star is indigo view is from blade's point of view

reverend attila is an alternate personality
reverend attila is siytting back in cthuhullu when he looks at his credit card bill

thomas forsyth is an active worker in the ranks of the republican party
thomas forsyth is a regular consultant to our steve tucker design team
thomas forsyth is #60

A few notes

Heather> I am impressed your mother did all that, as I imagine she wants you to take the nursing program. BTW, for all of the CR, my Kosovo adress

SPC Thomas Forsyth
B Det 106th FI BN
Camp Bondsteel, APO AE 09340

Jaden> Odd that you can't see my journal. I'll respond to your comments as I am more able.

Bud-Clare> I am so glad to see you in here ::hugs:: I will e-mail you soon :)

Hyperion> Truly, you are fortunate to have seen what you saw. Now, I would not kill myself or even cosndier it after that experience, though all that traveling will make me feel truly alive. I was amazed to see the Hagia Sophia as well as Machiavelli's grave in Florence. Now, I can add Mother Teresa's birthplace in Skopje, Macedonia. At a time, I was dismayed to be going to Germany. Now, I realize what a blessing it was in disguise. I like the idea of taking out Sadaam and quickly, so I may get to go on a peace keeping mission in Iraq. To see Babylon, Ur, Sumer, and the rest of the Cradle of Civilization is a desire of mine. My desire to see the Hagia Sophia and enter it has burned in me since I was 12. I hope I get more opportunities to travel, as I have only seen a wee bit.

I envy you and yoru travels, friend. Of course there is always more to see :)
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Camp Able Sentry , Macedonia
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 08:18:59 AM
IP: 136.216.70.2

The sun... blast it ... how could the morning have come so soon... the meteors are done for ....

It wasnt nearly as good a show as last year -- they mistimed the peak // and if it doesnt go above where it is now it wasnt nearly as high as predicted...

The meteor show I wasnt alive for yet that was really wonderful was 1966. Wonder if there will be a storm like that (not leonids of course) in my lifetime.
silvadel
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 06:13:37 AM
IP: 208.59.247.9

6 more days...6 more days. I can last six more days, I'm sure of it. Especially since only 3 have classes. Wanted to finish our steel design project today, but unfortunately the prof hasn't taught us enough to actually start the final phase. Bitter. Lots of studying to do for my analysis midterm. Can't afford to screw that up.

Phire_kat: <>: Never said anything about WISHING you were dead, just that I figured you would be by now, since you show remarkably lack of self-preservatory talent. <<Besides lain (who I can't understand why she puts up with you guys>>: And we can't understand why she puts up with you. 8-) <<the rest of ya are just mean>>: I try my best.

Spacebabie: <<Now that gargoyles 2198 is over when will Timedancer continue>>: Not nearly as funny as it sounded in your head. <<When is the next episode of TGS coming out?>>: Never, duh. <<Don’t have what I want for a hideout/base>>: Ditto. I don't see a batcave in there. <<castle painted white. To throw my enemies of>>: Not really. It'd stick out like a sore thumb. <<nobody suspects those either>>: We suspect them of selling horsemeat, if RHPS is to be believed. <<spacebabie is a virgin and she is a few months older than me>>: Random... <<They are good>>: Someone was wearing a shirt that said "F!@# Trust Company". Not printed nicely or anything, just scrawled across it in sharpie. <<What is it about Denny’s and people who go to cool concerts?>>: Its open late, its cheap, its warm, and you don't have to be in a right state of mind to order. <<Mom and I are waiting a week, less kids in the theater that way>>: The many children in my theater were surprisingly quiet. The movie is LONG though, almost 3 hours!

Gunjack: <<Me? Uh... what's THAT all about?>>: Its about you shooting people down and enjoying it. You do it all the time!<<she's super, and she's a (nude) model>>: Not the same thing! <<As for the Nympho part... you have no idea>>: Somehow, I don't think you two are qualified to make that call... <>: I recommend hershey's syrup 8-) <<Extreme perceptiveness needs no justification>>: Um, yes it does. Especially when she can smell the other woman's perfume. <<Whoever said all that stuff wasn't part of the deal?>>: But you implied that those three things were all that was necessary. They are NOT! <<Any fool can kick a man's teeth in, but diplomacy takes intelligence>>: The first time I read this I wasn't sure if you meant that I should refine my art of kicking people in the teeth or stop ripping into people 8-) As it is, I don't think I'll stop. Diplomacy is reserved for dealing with people I care about or whose opinions I need to concern myself with. Not random internet people 8-) <<Writing a paper on why Christians should remove themselves from the American political process>>: I wish I could write papers like that.

Bud-Clare: <<it would be enough if everyone could just locate their own damned asses>>: I don't know any people with that problem. I do know plenty of people that can't locate a coherent sentence with two hands and a flashlight, though. <<It seems to me that you're either being deliberately antagonistic or paranoid>> This is impfac you're talking to. <<What did you read?>>: Kant, Scheffler, Foot, Rychman, Kuhn, Nagel, Sidgwick, Mackie, Stevenson, Harman, Railton, Hume...the list goes on. And they're all full of rhetoric garbage. What it shows is a group of people who lacked the ability to refine and reason out their contradictory ideas (their OWN contradictory ideas, not ideas that contradict with other philosophers'), but which are accepted as brilliant just because they got their damn book published. No matter how much time I spend in philosophy classes, with philosophy majors, or studying philosophy, I come to the conclusion that the thought experiments there are as useless as a third nipple. <<They apparently believe that I don't know how to write a research paper. They suck>>: They shouldn't give anyone the benefit of the doubt. I took English 1 because I didn't enough to take AP english in high school (it interfered with AP Physics)...I was amazed at how badly college students write. Totally incoherent.

Hyperion: <<Something will have to be done soon>>: Kill your provider. <<He sees you on the can>>: He's sick. <<He'll hunt you down and blast your ass from here to Pakistan>>: But there's so many other "stans" that also rhyme! <<What the next culinary topic>>: Meat. <<half finished tower they're so damned proud of. Look, a scaffolding! Well, call it a major tourist attraction!>>: Meanwhile, over in the states we've got a giant stone penis that's a tourist attraction. <>: Yeah, it does feel funny rolling off the tongue. <<Quick, get me Johnny Cochran on the phone>>: If Chewbacca is a wookie, then Hyperion must give up his claim to earth! It does not make sense! <<of course there are no great books written by mathematicians are there? are there!? What?>>: Do the names Newton and Aristotle ring a bell? You forget, most mathematicians of old could speak without mumbling and were also poets 8-) SO STUFF IT! ;-) <<practically nobody has the time, inclination or motivation to go nancing off all over the globe>>: I don't know what nancing is, but I'm sure I wouldn't do it 8-) <<maybe you think I'm completely nuts>>: maybe? Eh, that has no bearing on this discussion ;-) <<Justice, excellence, courage, honor, perfection, enlightenment>>: Sex isn't on that list.

Fire Storm: Just be glad our science dept doesn't decide to fund itself by doing that. You'd be blind.

Lila: <<My weekend is now officially... over>>: Hurts, doesn't it? <<midnight adventures in Santa Monica>>: RHPS? <<harsh reality of Politics research papers>>: Oh, quiet. Poly sci papers are not "harsh". 15 page papers on rock mechanics are harsh. 4 problem sets a week are harsh. Engineering midterms are harsh. <<I'm straight this year>>: Will that change soon? <<SWEET. What an excellent visual>>: I agree. Do you even know what that is? <<Notes taken for next time I seduce a geek... it may be a while>>: What did we do to you? <<There ought to be a law punishable by mandatory enforced dieting>>: I was thinking execution. <<have you not seen frat boys at their disgusting peak of belligerance?>>: Not really. I don't go to frat parties. <<I'll be brief>>: Can I still be Josh? <<A nymphomaniac supermodel and a lifetime supply of chocolate... but it sounds like you're doing pretty darn well>>: and a huge-ass TV and sweet computer set up...oh, and a MAID! Every man needs a maid. <<mildly uncomfortable and extremely PERMANENT>>: Like a tatoo. <<give your mom her money's worth... she spent nine miserable months FAT and CRANKY>>: What money? <<Da*n required classes. Waste of my time>>: exactly how I feel about humanities. <<In a room of such apparent intellect>>: Which room are YOU in!? <<how can it be possible for the top ten to be so complicated EVERY SINGLE WEEK>>: People post twice and post right before other people click submit, so there's confusion.

Silverbolt: <<if you rule the world that means you've got to do a lot of stuff like plan meetings and make sure there is no chaos>>: Not really. I just make the big decisions. There will be plenty of gov't beneath me to take care of the details. That leaves me plenty of time to screw hot chicks. <<if you can do whatever you wish you'll eventualy get bored eventually of doing it all the time>>: I honestly don't think that would ever happen to me.

Gside: <<The good time>>: I'd bet not. <<If you say so>>: I do. <>: Don't get too excited, I may let you down again. <<Seems reasonably easy>>: If contradictory. <<You'd be surprised>>: Please don't say that. <<saltimbolca>>: What now? <<Alice in Wonderland>>: Doesn't count, he was on opium. <<I'm available>>: Not to mention totally undesirable.

Lain: <>: Blah blah. Silly windows people.

Must sleep.

49. If I learn the whereabouts of the one artifact which can destroy me, I will not send all my troops out to seize it. Instead I will send them out to seize something else and quietly put a Want-Ad in the local paper.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 03:15:08 AM
IP: 64.168.30.104

Lila><<A nymphomaniac supermodel and a lifetime supply of chocolate...>> Well, she's super, and she's a (nude) model. As for the Nympho part... you have no idea.
I do seem to be missing the chocolate, though. Steps will be taken.

Josh><<Why is that a useful skill for a relationship?>> Extreme perceptiveness needs no justification. ^_^ <<Well, if you were a normal straight male, there's a whole long list. Most of which isn't CR-appropriate.>> Whoever said all that stuff wasn't part of the deal? *wiggles eyebrows* <> ...Work on that. Any fool can kick a man's teeth in, but diplomacy takes intelligence.

Tonight's project: Writing a paper on why Christians should remove themselves from the American political process. Tough going, but a satisfying topic.

*KAPWING*
Gunjack "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" Valentine
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:42:01 AM
IP: 192.133.129.164

ok so i found this file on my computer. i dunno what it is, or if its a virus, or something important.. but i figure theres a geek or two in here who will be able to tell me ;)

i dont recognize the icon, its a red splatter with the word "Hot" written across it with yellow lettering.

type: application
location: c\windows\system
size:260kb
ms dos name: khooker.exe
created friday, november 8, 2002 9:50:17
modified monday, september 11, 2000 5:28:38 (... how can a file be modified before its created? o.O)
accessed tuesday november 19, 2002 (me right now)
SiS 630 super vga keyboard daemon
silicon integrated systems corporation
the language is chinese (taiwan)
the product name is SIS (R) 630 keyboard daemon for Windows 95&98
its version 4.12.01.1075
its an archive file
it was running in the background, and i ctrl=alt=delete and shut it down, and a whole whack of other stuff shut down at the same time.. just wondering whats goin on..
lain
Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:25:19 AM
IP: 65.93.76.189

Predicted Peak 5:36 Eastern Time +- 45 mins.
silvadel
Monday, November 18, 2002 11:08:41 PM
IP: 208.59.247.9

Imzadi> <<The bubble gum or the good time?>>: The good time.
<<Exploder often loses people>>: Shame.
<<Eh, f*ck 'em>>: If you say so.
<>: Possibly. But I dislike Microsoft's insistance on directional quotes.
<<Sorry about that. I'll try harder next time>>: I should hope so.
<<Fool!>>: Yes, but I enjoy fools.
<<You're twisted>>: Very.
<<Good call. And so true>>: Thank you.
<<giggling maniacally (can one do that?)>>: Seems reasonably easy.
<<Why is that a useful skill for a relationship?>>: You'd be surprised.

Spacebabie> <<a White Castle burger joint, of course nobody suspects those either>>: Except for one of my ex roomates. Somewhat of a racist, called it Black Castle, and the burgers they sold !@#$%^ burgers.
<<I�m sure you had the e in English on lower on purpose and switched the s for z in skills as well?>>: The lowercase e was my bad, but the skillz was intentional.
<<What is it about Denny�s and people who go to cool concerts?>>: It's the only place that's open, and you can order by pointing at the menu.

Hyperion> <<What the next culinary topic?>>: the proper thickness for prosciutto in your saltimbolca? Advanced Jello molding?
<>: Probably for the best.
<<of course there are no great books written by mathematicians are there?>>: Alice in Wonderland and Canterbury Tales, as well as the authors' other works.

Fire Storm> <<That is a slanderous if not specist remark!>>: And it was made by one of your creators. I felt safe in repeating it.

Lila> <<next time I seduce a geek>>: I'm available.
<>: Thank you. I do try.
<<how can it be possible for the top ten to be so complicated EVERY SINGLE WEEK?>>: Time lag between refreshing an posting, and overzealousness to mark your place before rechecking.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Monday, November 18, 2002 11:06:57 PM
IP: 165.230.240.116

Leonid Meteor Shower Reminder *^_^*

Tonight, party outside and watch the brightest meteor shower you'll see in the next 90 years. Also, it's almost a full moon, so lots of pretty stuff in the sky tonight if your weather is clear.

wheee!!! sparkles in the sky *^_^*

later
Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Monday, November 18, 2002 07:25:36 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

GJV - never mind buddy bad joke man, you know, with "guns are cute" ? and being slightly obsessed with something that dose harm in the world and all...

DPH <> well unlike you I only come here once and a while to check up and see if anything new has happened, cos I mean if I wear one of the writers for tgs i might have known what was going on and all so :oP see I just like writing, i'm not nuts *munches on a pastsio* about whats goingin the garfan world just if they want a new writer thats all...so again I say :oP PFFFTT!

Lila - okay I add you to my list of nice people in this room :o) <<It's only a comment room, not worth feeling upset at if people are callous or outright mean>> that is totaly ture but Josh hopeing I would be dead by now stired up old memories of myself wishing that to happen to me :o( not nice on any level, personal or not...*sniffles and hugs back* thanks for the hug anyway :o)

*throws her cat off the desk* great now my cat thinks she owns the pc, anyways *grabs another nut and find the shell empty* :oP I think getting back tomy own "books" is a good idea, I have a whole bunch of new stuff to write. Some day you can all find my work in a book store...at least I hope so anyway even if it turns out to be crap and no one reads it I will still be happy I did it yea me :oD...tomorrow I have to throtle my OW case worker and then go back to pounding the pavement :oP at least I caught up on my lack of sleep over the weekend. BTW "Punch Drunk love" and "signs" SUCKED!! don't waste your money!! I beg you...oh and "ghostship" needs some work too :oP NEXT! TTYL PPL OF TGS *tosses cat off the desk again*
Phire_kat
Middle Of Nowhere, Novofluoxtine, Canada
Monday, November 18, 2002 06:17:39 PM
IP: 65.93.22.109

Hmm... whilst building my new Bionicle Lego set I contemplated the reasons to why people wish to take over the world.

Techincally I see this as pointless, because by taking over the world it means your goal in life is complete, now you can do anything you want and go any where you want... but then if you rule the world that means you've got to do a lot of stuff like plan meetings and make sure there is no chaos etc.

And if you can do whatever you wish you'll eventualy get bored eventually of doing it all the time.

And the worst thing is if you probably wouldn't have many friends because they would all be afraid to come near you.

Also what is it with those damn characters who try to steal cereal from kids all the time????

Sure, they can afford to get all these expensive toys to try and steal the food but couldn't they just use the money instead to buy the stuff instead.

Much easier AND less painful!
Silverbolt
Monday, November 18, 2002 05:38:58 PM
IP: 213.122.93.10

Lila> "Oh god... please, please say you don't like Platonistic theory."
I wouldn't know. I read Plato's Apology and The Allegory of the Cave, but that's it. They were both quite nice, although I didn't exactly consider them to be earth-shattering or anything. Would I regret it if I asked what exactly Platonistic theory entails?

"I had the terrible misfortune to be stuck in a required philosophy seminar of sorts in which the prof elaborated for DAYS about Plato... Da*n required classes."
*L* Well, there's your problem right there. Required classes are always less pleasant than the ones you choose to take. I'm still pissed that I'm getting stuck taking one of the Gen. Ed. english courses at my current school, because they said that the courses that I took at my previous school didn't count. They apparently believe that I don't know how to write a research paper. They suck.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Monday, November 18, 2002 03:27:54 PM
IP: 24.169.113.216

My weekend is now officially... over. Drat. I was loving life... midnight adventures in Santa Monica, amazing (free!) dinners, parties, sunshine and abundance of daytime sleep. Now back to the harsh reality of Politics research papers... yay. Not.

REPLIES: Hmm, look what I started. ::smirks:: I really have nothing left to say about the subject of

DARK SHADOW- I take offense to being labeled a <flamer>. I'll have you know that I'm straight this year, thanks very much. ;-)

Lain- <faith is so hot... really though, it depends on the quality/angle of the stories that would be told. ill decide if i want to watch it if/when it comes out.> Too true. I gave Angel a chance before dumping it. I wouldn't want to be "prejudgemental" now would I?

IMZADI: <You would if you were male. When people ask me what my fantasy is, I reply "Eliza Dushku wearing a Cinema Display HD"> SWEET. What an excellent visual. Notes taken for next time I seduce a geek... it may be a while. <if you're wearing skintight spandex you'd better make sure you're allowed.> Damn straight. There ought to be a law punishable by mandatory enforced dieting. <Awww, thanks. Taken.> Wasn't asking ;-) However, good for you for that actually making a DIFFERENCE. Some guys... on the other hand... <Skip out on 2 beers.> How about skipping out on ALL the beer, thanks. Not so much with the beer drinking action. Or have you not seen frat boys at their disgusting peak of belligerance? <Yeah, we should have flamed him a long time ago. Or at least I should have.> I was not insinuating that it had to be you... though you or Greg would have been my picks for a ego-shattering comment of Doom to terrify 'im outta the room.

GSIDE- I give you mad props for being nice, whilst still managing to get your point across. Wish I had the time to devote to that in comment rooms... but I'm usually just myself instead.

LYNATI: I'll be brief. You rock.

GUNJACK: <What more could a guy ask for?> A nymphomaniac supermodel and a lifetime supply of chocolate... but it sounds like you're doing pretty darn well.

HEATHER: Careful, use an email address at which you don't mind receiving a LOT of spam... been there, had that, pain in the butt if you ask me.

IMPFAC:<Am I guilty of a crime for dropping out of college and pursuing a skilled trade? Just curious.> Only if you feel guilty for doing so. It's all about doing what will make you a happy and productive member of society... if that doesn't include a full college education, that's fine, as long as you can provide for yourself at whatever level of (income, particularly) life that makes you comfortable. "Follow your dreams... but make sure your dreams are worth following." <What DO you live for? I’m still working on that myself. And why don’t you kill yourself? I can’t find a reason not too personally.> Because, Impfac, it would be mildly uncomfortable and extremely PERMANENT. ;-) Don't waste. Waste=bad. At least give your mom her money's worth... she spent nine miserable months FAT and CRANKY cuz of you... That's how I used to see it, btw.:-)

PHIRE_CAT: I feel the strange urge to give you a hug. ::blinks in suprise at self:: It's only a comment room, not worth feeling upset at if people are callous or outright mean... ::gives hug anyway::

Bud_Clare- Oh god... please, please say you don't like Platonistic theory. I had the terrible misfortune to be stuck in a required philosophy seminar of sorts in which the prof elaborated for DAYS about Plato... Da*n required classes. Waste of my time.

One final thought: In a room of such apparent intellect, how can it be possible for the top ten to be so complicated EVERY SINGLE WEEK?

-Lila

Lila
L.A., CA
Monday, November 18, 2002 01:43:52 PM
IP: 134.173.121.83

Here is an intersting way to pay for the science department!

Gside: <xenomorph>
HEY! That is a slanderous if not specist remark! (No matter how accurate it may be!)
Fire Storm - [<--- It's for a good cause]
Monday, November 18, 2002 01:23:08 PM
IP: 66.72.179.130

As promised, the tgs staff page has updated for season 4. As series get published, appropriate credits will be added. Also, the order of series on the page indicates the intended airing order. The page is located where it has been, http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/staff.html
DPH - [<-- Click here to view the staff for Season 4 of TGS]
AR, USA
Monday, November 18, 2002 12:55:39 PM
IP: 204.94.193.61

Phire_cat - <Hey DPH is tgs looking for new writers yet? or did I miss it again?> In this case, I deliberately choose to ignore your question. The answer is not yet. If you think you might have missed, check out the link I provided called "Gargoyles News Central" or visit http://crossroads.dragonmists.org/fantasy/central/gnc.html . The place keeps up with gargoyle news all across the fandom.

*runs off momentarily to do last minute checks on the page listing who contributed to TGS season 4 so far*
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, November 18, 2002 12:38:41 PM
IP: 204.94.193.61

Internet connection still be flakier then a Wheaties factory. Something will have to be done soon. hmm...

Spacebabie><Christmas commercials> Ho,ho,ho! Now there's a good idea. I think I'll just watch the Futurama Christmas episode over and over whenever holiday cheer starts getting a little overbearing.
[To the tune of “Santa Claus is Coming to Town”]
"He knows when you are sleeping,
He sees you on the can,
He'll hunt you down and blast your ass from here to Pakistan"

Gside><flans> Hmm...that's right. we were talking about flans. Somehow I forget that. Oh well. What the next culinary topic?
<French>what's worse is the half finished tower they're so damned proud of. Look, a scaffolding! Well, call it a major tourist attraction! <Sniggering French laughter>
<That's the kind of reservations I'm talking about> I have no idea that reservations you're talking about.

Imzadi><Leveling Verizon> What do you think the rail gun is for? A single shot should release equivalent energy to about 1000 tons of TNT. Should do the building in nicely.
<“rulez” and is “l33t”> Damn...I leeted...
<non-PC> I find the comment doubly funny from a MAC disciple. Furthermore, I don’t' believe I've ever been politically correct in my life...well, maybe once.
<I'm entitled to use Microsoft's lawyers> Crap! Quick, get me Johnny Cochran on the phone!
<LOTS AND LOTS OF MATH> yes,yes,yes...math is great...of course there are no great books written by mathematicians are there? are there!? What? The Collected works of Addison-Westly? Muhwahahaha...
<crimes against sentience> Ok, <sigh> I can see where this is going. Yes, you are absolutely correct in that you expand your mind when you do school work. Hell, us bantering back and forth is a mental exercise some of time. That comment was not a blanket condemnation of everyone everywhere. I realize that practically nobody has the time, inclination or motivation to go nancing off all over the globe. The whole theory was never about traveling. For me it helped to crystallize a set of beliefs and a way of thinking. Maybe you hate traveling, in that case, zipping off to China isn't going the help much.
I all I was trying to say is that what bothers me(admittedly, a lot) is people that go to work in a low-level cube farm, do the minimum work possible, go home, watch TV and go to sleep and on weekends, watch TV, are not understating, or not caring, of the potential that life has.
If that's your ideal life, wonderful. More power to you. *I believe* that anyone that does that is wasting the potential they have to do great things, a potential I think everyone has. I hope that some day, everyone reaches that point, realizes what a fantastic place life is and understands that although there may be barriers (money, time, etc) there are no limits to the human mind, that the great ocean of sentience is spreading before us all waiting to be explored.
Maybe you don't agree with me, or maybe you think I'm completely nuts. That's fine. I am not asking for approval. This is my belief, this is my faith. Personally, I think it's a dammed good one.

Impfac><crimes against sentience>See above to Imzadi. Summary: never was about the trip, it's the understating that there is some serious next-level sh*t going on that everyone is welcome to be a part of. I wish everyone was. If they decline the invitation, sucks to be them.
<Am I guilty of a crime> Personally, I'd say no. But you would be if you dropped out of trade school, got on welfare rolls, used the money to buy beer and spent the rest of your life in a drunken stupor.
<I’m not big on philosophy>Well, then, I wouldn't read it if I were you. Although I would suggest "Finite and Infinite Games" By James P. Carse. That book a difficult read, is quite interesting in the perspective the guy has. I should really go back and read it again.
<What DO you live for> What? In 500 words or less?
Justice, excellence, courage, honor, perfection, enlightenment. Probably others, but this come to mind immediately.
<And why don’t you kill yourself> Heh. Simple, I never intended to.
It's the old story of the spy with the poison tooth. He is captured and tortured, but, in knowing that he has a way out, one he can take at any time, gives him the strength to endure torture, and hope for rescue.
Suicide was always "the final option" to me. Something to consider when every other conceivable alternative had been exhausted. When I found myself about to do so, I made sure that I had, in fact, done everything in my power to avoid exercising that option. realizing that I hadn't, I set about exploring those options. And some of them worked.

Hyperion
Monday, November 18, 2002 12:35:04 PM
IP: 151.199.242.183

Hyperion> "I believe that any person that does not, as a matter of habit, strive to reach the boundaries of his mind, to become greater, though knowledge or experience, thought or sensation, is guilty. They are guilty of crimes against sentience."
Don't worry. I agree with you, even if no one else does. :)

Impfac> "Life is hard work; people don’t want to go home and improve their brain, they want to shut it off."
And that's not a bad thing? It's not as if everyone needs to become some kind of philosophical genius or a religious icon; it would be enough if everyone could just locate their own damned asses. Everyone has flaws. There's nothing wrong with having flaws, as that is a normal part of life. There's no way you can live and not have flaws. This does not mean, however, that it's okay to dismiss your own flaws as unimportant. Most of the people that I know aren't even aware of most of their problems, let alone trying to solve them. It's okay to have flaws, as long as you're aware of at least most of them, and you try to improve... It doesn't matter that sometimes you won't succeed, as long as you try. But entirely too many people have convinced themselves that they're just fine the way they are, and that they shouldn't be expected to change.

Yes, life is hard, but it's also fundamentally pointless if you never change. And life wouldn't _be_ so damned hard if everyone _did_ change, even a little. Except everyone expects someone else to go first. Waiting for life to get easier so that it'll be easier to change... but when all the people who have the power to make life "easier" are sitting around waiting for that to happen, it never can get easier.

"I mean, no offense, but I think most people don’t have the money or freedom you do in taking such a grand trip"
Who said anything about taking a trip? Just because Hyperion did take a trip, doesn't mean that anyone who doesn't is doomed to... unenlightenment, or something. Traveling around the world may help some people to gain a broader perspective, but the same thing can be achieved from your own living room. Your location is irrelevant; all that matters is that you _want_ to change. And you don't have to undergo a massive change overnight; a gradual change is just as effective in the long run.

"Am I guilty of a crime for dropping out of college and pursuing a skilled trade? Just curious."
Did making that choice make you happier than you would be if you'd stayed? And if you're happier, don't you treat the people around you better than if you're unhappy?
And why did you even ask that question? It seems to me that you're either being deliberately antagonistic or paranoid, as Hyperion didn't say anything that should have _remotely_ led you to ask that.

"I’m not big on philosophy, just because it’s such mind numbing crap, over-elaborate hypothetical to belabor a pointless point."
What did you read? Some of it very likely _is_ crap, but it's not all. Plato is quite nice, from what I've seen. On the other hand, some of what you thought was mind-numbing crap might actually be fine. It's possible that if a totally different person tried to explain the exact same ideas to you, you might agree with it. The same thing applies to philosophy that I think is silly; if I heard the ideas explained in a different way, I might not find it silly. No two people think exactly the same way, so if someone who thinks in ways that are totally alien compared to the way _you_ think, then they might as well be speaking Greek (or any other language that you don't speak).

"And why don’t you kill yourself? I can’t find a reason not too personally."
I have a puppy. I love my puppy. :)
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Monday, November 18, 2002 12:31:03 PM
IP: 24.169.113.216

PK - Shoot ya down and take pleasure in it? Me? Uh... what's THAT all about?
Gunjack "Ya Got Me All Wrong" Valentine
Monday, November 18, 2002 11:21:18 AM
IP: 192.133.129.164

YEOUCH! It’s cold down here! Not a snap, not a chill and not nippy it’s just freaking cold! Temperatures dropped into the 40’s last night. Well I’m not going to be complaining about global warming this year. On the bright side I get to wear my new coat. The one that is a little like trench coat.

WARNING…my attempt at being a smart @$$ is about to come up.
Now that gargoyles 2198 is over when will Timedancer continue?

Okay bad? Okay try this

When is the next episode of TGS coming out?
I only did that cause I know its coming. Brace yourselves folks!

*************************SPOILERS FOR ANGEL**************************
Oh sure they can handle demons, vampires, and moisture sucking slug creatures but when it comes to rats the Angel team are wimps. Those swarms were kind of freaky and that one demon looks cool.
Lilah pretending to be Fred LOL!

My main complaint is that they were showing the Wizard of OZ next week, but damn the WB does a great job at promoting something.
**************************SPOILERS END********************************

Christine>>>Thanks for the link. Don’t have what I want for a hideout/base. I’m looking for something more in castle painted white. To throw my enemies off. Of course when I make the request I’d probably end up with a White Castle burger joint, of course nobody suspects those either hmmmmm

Hyperion<<>>When a show I’m watching breaks for commercial I hit the “Mute” button. I will keep doing that until Thanksgiving.

Jaden<<<Because I just want to see them beat this Buu guy AND IT'S TAKING FOREVER!!!!!>>>Ah typical DBZ, if you notice the Mouse has some influence of the show…besides Buu their is a Bibidi and Bobidi

Gside<<<Got it first, and named the exPython director.>>>Good 4 U!<<<type directly in my browser, trusting in my mostly good mad technical english skillz.>>>and I’m sure you had the e in English on lower on purpose and switched the s for z in skills as well?

Daniel Johnson>>>Cool site. doesn’t know a lot about my real name yet. But it does have enough about my nickname ”spacebabie is a virgin and she is a few months older than me”
Got a bunch of results for Greg Weisman’s name

Silvadel<<<What is it -- mainline comes next in the scheme of episodes?>>>I thin “Bad Guys”

Josh<<<and Trust Company (who?).>>>They are good. They were the the band that played at the fourth O-Rock Mystery show.<<<Denny's for late night food...and ran into several other concert-goers>>>What is it about Denny’s and people who go to cool concerts?<<<Today a bunch of us went to see Harry Potter.>>>Mom and I are waiting a week, less kids in the theater that way.<<<And places that sell random thanksgiving decorations for the people tacky enough to put them up.>>>Which my mom buys *sigh*<<<Not anymore!>>>Was it the Nyquil?<<<Your dad is cool.>>>He thanks you.<<<Speak for yourself>>>Okay, I’m not trying to be rude here.
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Monday, November 18, 2002 11:09:28 AM
IP: 67.24.17.213

....and Revel, thier the only nice ppl in here that I've met so far...the rest of ya are just mean :oP
Phire_kat
Middle Of Nowhere, Novofluoxtine, Canada
Monday, November 18, 2002 07:50:09 AM
IP: 65.93.14.126

Josh <> thanks Josh I wish I had too but unfortunatly no one even saw fit to kill me in the car accident I was in this year either, so your outta luck I'm still around, even though I would have gladly taken the places of the woman who died or my frined who is now half paralized and I still would to this very moment in time. Don't worry Josh I'm still waiting for some horrible mishap to take my life away. Even if your the only one who cares that I'm not here...

DPH - yeah thanks for ignoring my questions, I keep forgeting how unfriendly this place is :o(

On a happier note...if there can even be one in this room...on second thought whats the point, you guys will just shoot me down again and GJV will take pleasure in it :oP *sighs* I'm going back to bed and hope the world ends some time today so I don't have to get up...or read more things like what Josh wrote to me, geez and I thought I had gotten away from that shit, WOOOWAAAA! Besides lain (who I can't understand why she puts up with you guys) and impfac

Phire_kat
Middle Of Nowhere, Novofluoxtine, Canada
Monday, November 18, 2002 07:47:31 AM
IP: 65.93.14.126

***** TGS CR INFORMATION UPDATE *****

CR ARCHIVE:

The 2002 archive has been updated to include the weeks of October 26th to November 17th, for a total of 3 newly added weeks.
>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/2002/

The weeks of October 6th through October 26th are missing and the week of November 3rd to the 9th is incomplete. If you have these dates saved, please email the files to lady-mystic@usa.net. Thank you!

Please visit the following link for a complete listing of missing and incomplete CR weeks. If you have any of the dates listed on this page, please email the files to lady-mystic@usa.net. Thank you.
>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/missing.html

CR MEMBER PROFILES:

DPH's profile has been revised. The statistics pages were updated accordingly.
>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/members/profiles/dph.html
>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/members/

I have emailed a profile draft to Leo and am currently awaiting his reply.

The profile submission page has been updated to include a checkbox for the forthcoming Gathering 2003 under "Gatherings Attended."
>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/members/guidelines.html

***** END TGS CR INFORMATION UPDATE *****
Lady Mystic - [<-- UPDATED !!!]
Head Admin of TGS CR Information
Monday, November 18, 2002 02:53:38 AM
IP: 66.72.179.130

More homework yesterday and today...and more importantly: POP SUCKS!

That's the name of the concert we went to: KoRn, Disturbed (Believe is an awesome album!), and Trust Company (who?). Concert kicked ass. Disturbed was INCREDIBLE. They have an awesome stage presence. KoRn had bad acoustics so their performance was a bit off. But it was still cool. I bought a Disturbed beanie ("Disturbed on one side", the Believe Logo on the other). It rocks.

After the concert we hit Denny's for late night food...and ran into several other concert-goers.

Today a bunch of us went to see Harry Potter. It was soooooo good! I can't wait for the third one. Casting for these movies really is incredible.

Todd: Sadly, that bit you said to wait for wasn't worth the wait. But it was mildly amusing.

Gside: <<This is guaranteed by my associates>>: The bubble gum or the good time? <<spelling isn't a matter of debate>>: Dark Shadow would disagree. <<no uncomplementary pun on IE's name>>: Exploder often loses people. <<Apparently the rest of the world thinks we're all freaks>>: Eh, f*ck 'em. <<Either that, or the barbecue>>: MEAT! <<Geeks are notorious bully targets>>: Until we conquer the world! <<you seem to be making a political statement on the evils of capital letters>>: They're tools of the capitalist american pig-dogs! <<on the trip through your IE to the s8 box to my Mozilla, it became an accented r>>: I blame Mozilla. Came out fine on my end. <<that was a proper, if comparatively weak flame>>: I don't have it in me to flame hard right now. Too much work to do. <<It did seem a bit out of character>>: Sorry about that. I'll try harder next time. <<He didn't care about his typos, nor insist they were correct>>: And they're not nearly as bad/frequent. <>: Fool! <<That's the kind of reservations I'm talking about>>: You're twisted. <<Godot>>: Whatever, he never f*cking shows! <<That is somewhat the point of the play>>: When I finished that book I said "so?" <<Nothing for my real name, though>>: Same for me. <<Nobody Knows The Trouble I've Seen" theorem>>: Good call. And so true. <<homosexual oral rape>>: Um...

Lynati: <<too tired to answer you properly, but wanting to let you know your comments were read and contemplated, and that being computer illiterate, I need clearer advice than that>>: I have no idea what you're talking about, but that's okay. <<Everyone who dislikes humor at the expense of someone else, feel free to skip the rest of this>>: Woohoo! The good part! <<Nemesis>>: What is this, RHPS? <<That’s fine, as long as you aren’t doing it in public>>: HAHAHA. <<The blackjack one is much worse>>: Guess it is RHPS. <<there are people who post here who aren’t really gargoyles fans>>: They will burn. <<A big nothing>>: At least it was a *big* nothing. <<I’m pretty sure Joshy-boy is as well>>: You do not have the right to call me Joshy. And yes, I am giggling maniacally (can one do that?).

Silverbolt: <<your life shall be spared once I take over the world>>: Didn't you see the picture I showed Hyperion? I already own it. <<let me tell you that image of you on the front page scares me>>: LOL! Its also my login image. I think it looks cool.

Phire_kat: I was sure by now you'd have died in some internet-related meeting...

Gunjack: <<She can detect counterfeit money by TOUCH>>: Why is that a useful skill for a relationship? <<What more could a guy ask for?>>: Well, if you were a normal straight male, there's a whole long list. Most of which isn't CR-appropriate. <<gang rape>>: Woot! <<If you have nothing good to say, spray them with napalm aerosol and laugh madly to cover the uncomfertable silence>>: I try. But I find my words can be even more painful than napalm sometimes.

Spacebabie: <<the only places that are making money off of Thanksgiving are grocery stores, and places that sell linens>>: And places that sell random thanksgiving decorations for the people tacky enough to put them up. <<So now you are Canadian?>>: Just because someone says Eh does not mean they are becoming Canadian. <<What is a huamn>>: Good question. Interesting that it doesn't affect your answer to this question. <<Are you dripping stuff from your face holes yet?>>: Not anymore! <<He played it in the car the other day>>: Your dad is cool. <<Like pulled pork?>>: I've never heard that, but yes. <<Darn blond moment!>>: Ha ha. <<About darn time>>: You try writing a 12-15 page paper on the Vaiont Dam Disaster, missy! <<We are not trying to be rude here>>: Speak for yourself.

Christine: I love that site! But their prices are terrible. So much easier to do it yourself.

Hyperion: <<Verizon HQ is to be shot with a rail gun at the earliest opportunity>>: Why don't you just level it? <<If that is not simply the most embarrassing thing that any man, woman or child who is a citizen of the US has ever read, frankly, I don’t know what is>>: "George W Bush is President". <<That site “rulez” and is “l33t”>>: ::smack:: <>: But do they eat lead? <<They taste kinda like peregrine falcon or whooping crane>>: Very non-PC. <<Sorry to hear your going in to battle so under-armed>>: I can't figure out what you're referring to. <<This is a forgery! I’LL SEE YOU IN COURT>>: Good luck. As world leader, I'm entitled to use Microsoft's lawyers. <<Porn is part of enlightened self-interest>>: Of course. <<Anal floss>>: Thanks. Really. <<my girlfriend just dumped me for a Cocker Spaniel>>: I hear they do amazing things with peanut butter. <<experiences>>: Damn, you are well travelled. I am impressed. But you know what, the biggest concerns I have are still going to be how I'm going to provide for myself in the future. So that I can get off my ass and finally see those gorgeous things you've mentioned. <>: Hate to point this out, but none of those wonders would exist without LOTS AND LOTS OF MATH!!! <<crimes against sentience>>: Screw you, dude. I expand my mind every time I sit down to do a homework assignment. Why do you think I'm in school? I don't have the time and money to drop everything and randomly tiptoe around the planet. Maybe someday I will, but for you to say that people who live in a first world nation are worthless because they haven't yet taken your trip is shallow and conceited. And its people like THAT that make ME want to commit suicide.

Impfac: <<How old are you?>>: 2, dude. <<I’ve applied to lots of lingerer stores, but they refuse to hire me>>: HAHAHA. Somehow, I don't think gay males are the target demographic of most lingerie stores... <<I’m gifted with an incredible brain (my parents both have IQ’s higher than Benjamin Franklin>>: Which means nothing. IQ means nothing, the fact that your parents have high IQ's means nothing for you. Many people with high IQ's have children who are totally autistic. <<I’m not big on philosophy, just because it’s such mind numbing crap, over-elaborate hypothetical to belabor a pointless point>>: AMEN! Next semester I will complete my third philosophy class, totally convinced that philosophy exists for nothing more than propagation of itself.

Silvadel: <>: I feel your pain, dude. Alas, there aren't 12 hours left today, so I'll just do what I can.

Daniel Johnson: <<Something has changed here>>: probably me. Sorry about that. <<now for something completely different>>: Channel 5 will now explode.

DPH: <<dph is authorized to spend as much as $14 million a year over the next five years>>: Lucky bastard. <<Shouldn't you keep one around to find out who all participates in a revolution against you so you can crush them before they organize>>: Probably not. That'd just tempt rebels to try and break in.

Lain: <<that IS a real guy, too thats funny>>: Maybe that's why it came up.

Alas, it is time to sleep. Finally.

48. I will treat any beast which I control through magic or technology with respect and kindness. Thus if the control is ever broken, it will not immediately come after me for revenge.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Monday, November 18, 2002 02:49:28 AM
IP: 64.168.30.104

Taleweaver> <<Waiting for Godo>>: Godot.
<<ultimately disappointing because it took forever to get where it was going>>: That is somewhat the point of the play.

Daniel Johnson> <<You'll find out what Google knows about the given name>>: gside is invading my mind, gside is with divertor pressure bbot. Nothing for my real name, though.

Dark> <<It's just that people make fun of my spelling>>: We can handle the spelling, it's that you insist that it's correct.
<<Noone knows what I have went though>>: I have a sociological/philosophical theory about that. I call it the "Nobody Knows The Trouble I've Seen" theorem, because I like naming things with cultural references. Everone's person's troubles are the worst possible in the world, to themselves, and everyone else's problems aren't so bad. This is because they experience their own problems so they know exactly how bad they are, but they can't tell how bad everyone else's problems are because they don't experience them so they aren't so terrible. Once you realize that, you can say "Eh, whatever, I've got it pretty good, all things considered."

Gunjack> <<Speakin of Darkshadow and gang rape>>: That reminded me of somthing I heard today. A description of the function of xenomorph hacehuggers: "homosexual oral rape."

And a light piece for the mp3, Dead Man Blues by Jelly Roll Morton's Red Hot Peppers. No chili.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Monday, November 18, 2002 01:07:23 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

daniel j>> <<www.googlism.com>> now THAT was entertaining :)

strangely enough, there is only one result for "greg bishansky" and it is as follows:

greg bishansky is going to get mad at you

hee hee ;)

<<daniel johnson is elected head of quebec's liberal party and automatically as provincial premier>> LOL!!! that IS a real guy, too thats funny :D <<but now I feel a chill in the air>> *gives him a blankie and some hot cocoa from tim hortons* that should fix ya up right good!

val>> <<hey Lyn, you planning on sending me that email any time soon>> LOL! you should be so lucky :P

aaaah well.. since i havent had any sleep since friday, i think now is the time to hit the sack.

"most of switzerland DOES have nestea.."
*sip* "aaaaaaaaahhAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhh...."
".. but not here, in particular."

*zoikzzzzZZZZzzzz*
lain
Monday, November 18, 2002 12:39:31 AM
IP: 65.93.76.189

MAN am I tired... I have been listing items on ebay without a break all day -- like 1000 items... Amazingly I had the discipline to keep myself going.

Willpower check succeeds =) Resistance to sloth increases...

I am also amazed at HOW FEW posts occured today....

What is it -- mainline comes next in the scheme of episodes?

By the way -- the offer fell through tapewise(I really do not have the facilities to copy tapes)... so if anyone has the inclination(winks), I can send blanks back or the cost of the tapes+shipping...

Just a few hundred more things to post and they have already been uploaded -- it is just waiting a suitable time so they dont all go off at the same time...

silvadel
Monday, November 18, 2002 12:29:22 AM
IP: 207.207.243.130

Speakin of Darkshadow and gang rape...
well... on second thought, maybe I'll just keep my mouth SHUT for the time being. "If you have nothing good to say, then say nothing at all." ...Or was it "If you have nothing good to say, spray them with napalm aerosol and laugh madly to cover the uncomfertable silence"?
I forget sometimes.

Speaking of not having much to say... hey Lyn, you planning on sending me that email any time soon?
Gunjack "Fiddledediddle" Valentine
Monday, November 18, 2002 12:27:21 AM
IP: 192.133.129.164

I jut came back here to say something. Whpoever has there MNS name as JACOB, I sent you an E-mail. I asked who you were. I think I deleted your MSN name. I'll put you back on IF you send a reply. Just doesn't be rude if you want me on your MSN that badly... I readlly do like this fandom... But... It's just that people make fun of my spelling... I guess I won't be back unless you reply to me thought E-mail ASN or AIM... But... It truely was NOT nice of you guys to be so hard on me at alll! You... Noone knows what I have went though... Who'd want to know anyway?...
Dark Shadow - [Dark_Shadow500@hotmail.com]
Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:46:23 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Daniel Johnson - Good to see you. <This place feels different. I used to look forward to coming here to hang out and act silly, but now I feel a chill in the air.> Wilek, you didn't program the CR weather controls to emulate Artic cold fronts, right? <Googlism> Hehe. "dph" came up with some interesting results and my favorite is "dph is authorized to spend as much as $14 million a year over the next five years." :P <daniel johnson is happy that dph is glad :) > You better believe it.

Spacebabie 0- <What is a huamn?> A misspelling of the word "human".

Dark Shadow - two phrases: spell check and turn the caps lock off.

Imzadi - < No, I meant that if I had 10 years to think about what I'd yell at my parents, it'd be a bit more...lengthy. And harsh.> Ok, I thought you were talking about the other side about Gwen not being forgiving enough. <Time travel machines> Shouldn't you keep one around to find out who all participates in a revolution against you so you can crush them before they organize?

Silverbolt - <Finally the Firemen here have stopped their strike (It was a couple of days ago but I haven't said anything here for a bit. They wanted a pay rise and good old Tony Blair said "no" so they went of strike for 48 hours, this resulted in an increase in hoax calls and only a few fire engines called green godesses that havn't been used since World War 2!!!> On this partricular strike, I'm more inclined to agree with the strikers. Those people risk their necks on the job and should be compensated accordingly, especially if there hasn't been a pay raise in a decade.
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:51:05 PM
IP: 204.94.193.12

Well, this place seems vaguely familiar. Hey folks; been a long time, hasn't it? Honestly, for the last few months I haven't had much desire to come here since every time I'd poke my nose in, some huge flamewar was raging. Something has changed here. This place feels different. I used to look forward to coming here to hang out and act silly, but now I feel a chill in the air. Don't ask my how or why or who; it's just a gut feeling and I have no time to go digging.

And now for something completely different.

For a good time call...I mean go to www.googlism.com and put in your name (or someone elses) and wackiness will ensue. You'll find out what Google knows about the given name. Here's some examples for "daniel johnson":

daniel johnson is a pretrial detainee who as a matter of law is entitled to freedom of religion [Well, I should hope so!]
daniel johnson is now able to escape the label of "loser" and has earned his place as keeper of the federalist hearth in la belle province [I was never a loser!]
daniel johnson is elected head of quebec's liberal party and automatically as provincial premier [Wait! I'm Canadian!? Do I have to start saying "eh?" I could make a gratuitous juxtaposition of "loser" and "Canada" here, but that would be mean. Besides, someone else is sure to do it. >:)]
daniel johnson is facing the death penalty [It wasn't me! Mittenz did it!]

And most significantly:

daniel johnson is happy that dph is glad
:)

For the second bit of sillines, click my name and witness the Heirarchy of Geekiness courtesy of the Brunching Shuttlecocks. It seems quite fitting for this place. ;)

That will be all.
Daniel Johnson - [daniel@daniel-johnson.org]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Sunday, November 17, 2002 09:37:51 PM
IP: 138.89.77.77

Jaden on DBZ> Can't wait, get used to it. Any significant plot point on Dragon Ball takes forever and a day to reach. I remember going to a play "Waiting for Godo", ultimately disappointing because it took forever to get where it was going. I get that same feeling watching DBZ, both the subtitled on the International channel and the dubbed version on Cartoon Network.

Taleweaver - [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~]
Sunday, November 17, 2002 06:00:34 PM
IP: 24.205.118.18

10?

Gunjack Valentine
Sunday, November 17, 2002 04:02:51 PM
IP: 192.133.129.164

Ignoring doubles... ninth.
I think.
lila
la
Sunday, November 17, 2002 03:43:12 PM
IP: 134.173.121.83

Ok -- looks like I messed up the counting but good by posting twice =)

So far so good -- since my last post I have worked constantly and have made some small modicum of progress....

Chaos and law are such odd things -- chaos creeps in all the time, but LAW must be imposed upon chaos.

So what am I doing here???? BACK TO WORK!

silvadel
Sunday, November 17, 2002 02:26:32 PM
IP: 208.59.247.9

eight.
Lynati
Sunday, November 17, 2002 02:19:01 PM
IP: 65.66.158.42

More then 5th, less than 20th!
Fire Storm
Sunday, November 17, 2002 01:21:53 PM
IP: 66.72.179.130

actually I'm sixth
Revel
Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:57:53 PM
IP: 129.120.175.30

7
Revel
Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:57:06 PM
IP: 129.120.175.30

Sixth!!!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [ssobotka33616@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:50:49 PM
IP: 65.35.132.55

I am always too frightened to enter such a comment as my top ten post for fear that I will say second plus a bunch of other stuff and then end up fifth. This is especially acute when I see the room empty and have a shot at first...

What I have to do today is really knuckle under and get work done... I havent been doing enough work and I have an opportunity to do so with less overhead so long as it is done today.

The problem is getting oneself to do it =)

I will be much happier tomorrow if I knuckle under and do 12 hours of work today than if I do nothing. I may be less happy today though ;)
silvadel
Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:27:37 PM
IP: 208.59.247.9

I claim the fourth spot in the name of all aliens: critters, monsters and us chicks!
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, FL, USA
Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:18:19 PM
IP: 67.25.49.244

Third!
Leo
Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:51:43 AM
IP: 68.10.125.229

#2
silvadel
Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:47:03 AM
IP: 208.59.247.9

Top Ten
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1st!
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:32:23 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20