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Leo>> <<It "seems"? like a good beginning though. >> thanks but could you be a bit more ...uh...specifice about why it seems like a good beginning?

Firestorm >> <<but I think a story teaser that short is ok>> yeah I just wanted some advice and stuff not to give the whwole thing away. What do you think of it? dose it need any adjestments, gramer, spelling...anything PLEASE i need input!!

Josh>> Thanks Josh thats the first nice thing you've ever said to me in here! :o) its actually just a little part of a novel I'm working on!

Warpmind>><<That looks like a pretty interesting start. When's the finished product due?>> before 2004 I hope :oP like I said up there to Josh, it is one of my novels that I'm working on. But theres is a lot more done to it then just the little bit I posted in here. I know this sounds lame but I'm trying to do my autobiography too :oP its , uh , going to say the least. Soon I may actually try to get my poetry pubished so then I have my foot in the publishing door :oD Fun Fun!

DPH>> Well thanks you boring jerk I was actully hoping you'd give me some good advice or something on it!! :oP

Greeeeeat my cat when into heat yesterday and now she's acting like a total freak! GOOD news is *singsongs* She's gettin fixed on Wednesday!!! And last thursday I put my live potted Christmas tree it looks so cute with all the decorations on it and little lights. Its sitting on top of the entertainment center in the living room. I need to get a bigger pot fot it though or it won't last to long. *sings*
"Jingle bell, jingle bells... we got 6 inches of snow last nite!!!!!!!" *trots away to go through more boxes of her things*

Phire_kat
Middle Of Nowhere, Novofluoxtine, Canada
Sunday, December 1, 2002 10:44:17 AM
IP: 65.93.14.9

Silverbolt > congrats on the award, well done!

Jaden > where'd you go? Glad the weather's been nice for travel.

Fire Storm > I figure that since I'm approaching my 100 mark, I better start doing _something_ with those loose ends. I semi-retired after Damien (see how well THAT worked out) and have been viewing that 100 mark as the boundary to "mostly retired."

Josh > I prefer a combination of Jungian and Skinnerian, myself. Deeply ingrained archetypes and behavioral modification, yeah!
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Sunday, December 1, 2002 09:25:13 AM
IP: 65.239.13.143

I got a chance to work on my model today. The cockpit is rapidly approaching completion, hopefully I will be able to finish it up tomorrow afternoon.

The rest of the day was spent with my new LotR extended DVD, watching with my family. We even ate in the family room. It was awesome, everyone loved it. Though the incessant questions from the family got a bit annoying. People still don't grasp the basic tenets of Sci-Fi and Fantasy: filter out the story-specific babble and focus on the plot.

Almost done with all my work too. So close to the end of the semester that I can taste it.

Todd: <<the current Administration Policy is not to hold one until we're finished with the current Breakdowns,>>: Well that policy sucks. 8-)

Green Baron: <<the higher ups don't like it for us to have a webscreen up while working>>: Same for the rest of us at work, but we manage anyway. <<For a while I took his comments a bit personally and it was really stupid of me>>: And notice how much better we get along now that you don't ;-) <<Greg X is worse>>: Yeah, but he rarely posts here. <<considered him and Dilbert role models>>: Well, that explains a lot.

Christine: <<zombie deer in the headlights>>: That's about how I felt after walking through 300,000 people at the mall. <<subconscious, that's what Jericho is all about>>: Freud would certainly have a field day with that...and with you writing about it. But I think if Demona were my mom I wouldn't be as bothered by friend's saying that she's hot 8-)

Niamhgold: <<Is Flash good or bad...and why>>: Flash is bad because people think its a substitute for a web interface, making sites impossible to use without making them any more visibly attractive. <>: We ate the last of our turkey tonight. Good stuff. <<we don't *have* any quarter driven octopi>>: Bzzzzz... <<Always swallow.>>: Good girl. Someone has trained you well. <<Horny little MONKEY, thank-you-very-much>>: Chicken, I think. <<Mondrian squares are metaphorical>>: That, or someone wants you to think they are. <<Advantages of the mac? You must be speaking a separate language, sir.>>: I'll kill you. <<Mine shall die. Or be buried in snow. And die>>: My dentist made me those nifty little fangs, so I can't kill him. <<Do not disturb. I'm baking off>>: Kinky. <>: YES! <<Sorry, I don't play like that>>: LOL!

DPH: <<Define production>>: Sorry, I meant publication. <<Is Procrastination the cause of the overloaded schoolwork?>>: If you say that to an engineer he will summarily beat you. <<So you don't trust computer AI not to turn against your?>>: Pretty much, yeah.

Warpmind: <<Apparently, my origin is in Hell. Weird>.: Der. <<I'm getting REALLY curious here>>: Sorry, only my spawn can be the antichrist. <<from the comments on my dream, there, I'd say you're a disturbed nut>>: Just from those? <<your posts are the first to agonize me>>: LOL I've never heard it put quite that way.

Fire Storm: <<you dress up and like to be called that>>: Which I don't. <<There are days I am leaving work at 7am and I say "Good Night">>: My roommate usually goes to sleep when I wake up in the morning. <<You are gonna loose a lot of support due to that>>: Who cares? I'll be the undisputed dictator of the world. I guess if I institute sterilization, then screwing licenses become uncessary. <>: Few are. <<They have been in nylon socks all day>>: Ewww! <<Makes me want to see the second and read the books now>>: That's okay, it'll take you at most 3 hours each to read the books. <<At least then I would have an explanation>>: Well, for any explanation you'd "at least have an explanation". <>: This is starting to sound less like nursing and more like your dominatrix training. <>: Me too. But its usually not to eat them. <<VERY horny CR Nymph>>: This CR could use a few more of those.

Gside: <<my mother doesn't have a clue>>: Well, according to the director, if she can't be troubled to rent it, then they aren't interested in her admission fee. <<Then try to have sex with your mother>>: No, he'd try to have sex with his OWN mother. <<what are you trying to imply>>: Nothing. <<not integrated into the site navigation>>: Amen! <>: Watch more porn. <>: I'm a bigger fan of protection from cold. <>: So you wanted to sleep with his mother? <<Apprentice>>: True, you're already a master. Baiter. <>: I hate you. <<With tentacles and lesbian tendacies>>: Woohoo! <<Porn always makes sense>>: Not really. <: The important question is: did she? <<it's my job>>: God please no. I didn't even know that men could be nymphs!?

Leviathan: We're not holding our breath.

60. My five-year-old child advisor will also be asked to decipher any code I am thinking of using. If he breaks the code in under 30 seconds, it will not be used. Note: this also applies to passwords.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Encino, CA, US of A
Sunday, December 1, 2002 03:57:49 AM
IP: 67.117.15.236

Just to let you know: Disney will be releasing GARGOYLES on DVD in 2003.
Leviathan - [robeykr@hotmail.com]
Warminster, PA, United States of America
Sunday, December 1, 2002 01:55:40 AM
IP: 68.80.109.9

Gside: <What was the species ratio? And how do I get me one of those? With tentacles and lesbian tendacies.>
Actually, it was like this:
Wizards have familiars. These animals are almost a part of the wizard. They become so connected that they are almost one.
What if one of the familiars started to become attracted to the the wizard?
I had a random wizard and a female cat familiar, who learned to change her form (I blame YOU for showing me Wereworld!)
She was a tabby with a bit of orange.
Cute too. :)
Fire Storm
Sunday, December 1, 2002 01:50:20 AM
IP: 66.72.186.61

Got a new watch today. Cheaper, but I'll live with it.
And my eysight hasn't changed much over the past year. A bit more lattice degeneration, but still around a diopter of 7.

Imzadi> <<since they really don't remember all the way back to a year ago>>: I'm somewhat glad my father wouldn't even need to see the first movie to know what's going on. But then, my mother doesn't have a clue. Well, maybe half a one.
<>: Eventually.
<<He'd probably offer me coke>>: Then try to have sex with your mother.
<<Is it really starting one if you're just hyper-defensive?>>: I'd say so. And what are you trying to imply?

Niamhgol> <<Is Flash good or bad...and why?>>: It's got music by Queen and Brian Blessed in wings. I like it.
For the Flash you meant, It's the chosen medium of Hyung Sun Kim, Xiao Xiao (aka Stickdeath), and the source of many music videos that want me to claw out my eyes. So it's not so bad, but I to prefer it separated for its own purposes, not integrated into the site navigation.
<<Made yourself, or ordered?>>: Ordered. We go weekly, on a small rotation while I'm here, so they stopped asking.
<<I'll be sure to ask Liz when I fly back>>: Feel free to forget about it and ignore me. I probably will.
<<turkey-noodle soup>>: Good stuff.
<<we don't *have* any quarter driven octopi!>>: You should complain to your grocery store's manager.
<<Swallow, dude. Always swallow>>: But you don't swallow cherry pits or watermellon seeds. Besides, I always thought swallowing was more of an issue for the wimminfolk.

Silverbolt> <<I've passed my grade 2 music exam>>: Congratulations.

Warpmind> <<she may be building on some sorta Frost Armor>>: good for her. I like how it increases light radius.
<<you think YOU were surprised to see Spacie'd had me for lunch>>: I wasn't surprised about that, I was surprised you had nothing to say about it.
<<from the comments on my dream, there, I'd say you're a disturbed nut>>: Took you long enough to notice. Besides, I was just channeling Freud.
<<Care to become my newest apprentice?>>: Apprentice? I feel that is a bit below me.
<<Think half a dozen Jay and Silent Bobs in a huge tank>>: Oddly enough I stopped by the stash today.

Fire Storm> <<Harry Potter and the Furries of Pleasure>>: What was the species ratio? And how do I get me one of those? With tentacles and lesbian tendacies.
<<It made sense>>: But of course. Porn always makes sense.
<>: I bet you liked that.
<<It is SO hard not to eat people>>: I feel your pain.
<<But I feel bad when I kill someone>>: Oh, kill.
<<why don't we just call you the VERY horny CR Nymph?>>: Because it's my job. Granted, I am male, but I am sexy enough for it to not matter, for I am a sexy, sexy man.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, December 1, 2002 12:43:19 AM
IP: 68.38.240.227

Y'all: Thanks for the wishes for LM. She is doing good. Only 45 minutes left on her second shift since the second collapse, and all seems good.
But I am NOT allowing her to drive herself to and from work for a while!

Imzadi: <That would put me out of control>
Unless, of course, you dress up and like to be called that.
<Of course. Just like "good morning" applies for up to 4 hours after waking up>
This whole "Morning," "Night" thing confuses the hell out of me some times. There are days I am leaving work at 7am and I say "Good Night"
<When the men want or when the women want? In any case, that would conflict directly with my plans to have breeding and screwing licenses>
Breeding licenses I can understand. Forced (temporary and/or reversible) sterilization, I can understand. But screwing licenses? You are gonna loose a lot of support due to that.
<since it emphasizes horny instead of toad>
True...
<You as a dad is just TOO scary!>
Hey, I can take care of LM. Maybe I would be a good dad.
But not yet.

Spacebabie: <<You were about to put your foot in your mouth, but I put someone or something else�s foot in there instead>
Ah. I see. Yeah, I am not that flexible. But first, I need to wash LM's feet. They have been in nylon socks all day.

Leo: <This has been an absolutely s#^!!y month for pets.>
Definately. My mom called me when I was sleeping a few weeks ago because my dog had to be rushed to the pet emergency room. She is OK now, but that was such a scare.

Gside: <Sorry about that, but still, the principle of the thing.>
Reminds me of a dream I had last night. Harry Potter and the Furries of Pleasure (Furry, not Furies.)
It was wierd... and the scary part? It made sense.
Damn it... why did that movie have to be good? Makes me want to see the second and read the books now.
<Drugs?>
Na, I wish. At least then I would have an explanation.
<There is nothing there that is more important than health. If she sneezes, she can take that as a sign not to update.>
Ah, she won't listen to me. She kept trying to stand (and having a VERY hard time trying), and I said to her (harshly) "What do you think you are doing?"
I had to keep pushing her down. She tried to walk places, I wouldn't allow it. Then she started to get angry because she felt too much like a bum and needed to do something.
Soon after that, I realized she was feeling a bit better.
<What will you be having?>
Oh, the usual boring stuff (especially since I woke up 4 hours later than I had hoped.)
Turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, carrots, blah, blah, blah. Normal human food.
It is SO hard not to eat people... Do you know how difficult it is? I have a CRAVING for humans every so often. But I feel bad when I kill someone...

Warpmind: <Aaanyway. been having weird dreams lately... if ANYONE can explain why>
My dreams have been weird too. They have been making less and less sense lately. The death, carnage, murder, genocide dreams are normal. A lot of the others don't make sense.

Gunjack: Just want to make sure: You DID get my address, right?

Niamhgold: <Horny little MONKEY, thank-you-very-much ;)>
OH, why don't we just call you the VERY horny CR Nymph?
<Really? Interesting>
Very much so. Try it!
Fire Storm
Sunday, December 1, 2002 12:15:12 AM
IP: 66.72.186.61

Christine: <The Guardians: Speed Demons>
I just LOVE stories that... well, 'tie up' just isn't appropriate...
Ok! How's this...
I just LOVE stories that rediscover loose ends!
FIre Storm
Saturday, November 30, 2002 10:42:55 PM
IP: 66.72.186.61

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Sorry I missed last week. Did some traveling around Washington. I hope I didn't miss anything.

Taleweaver- They started the reruns now. IT'S GOING TO TAKE TWICE AS LONG NOW! It's ironic that it happened the week of my last post.

Spacebabie Bibidi Bobidi Buu? It can do magic believe it or not. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! BTW Sorry to hear about your pet.

Green Baron- It's odd, but the next day I tried it again and there it was. Guess there was a temporary bug in the machine.

Christine<LotP> Hee funny.

Food survey:

Fruit: Nice Green Apples
Veggie: Carrots
Meat: Cow I guess
Ice Cream: Gotta be Cookies and Cream. no other choice
Cookie: Cookies with big chuncks of chocolate. Hmmm cookie
Seasoning: Never thought of one
Breakfast: Whatever I feel like
Candy- Anything with Reeses in the title
Soda: Don't drink it.
Java: Hot Chocolate count?
Mixed Drink: You have to go to Korea to find out. ;)
Non-mixed drink: Strongbow
Snack: Whatever strikes me as good.

Fire Storm- Glad to hear that LM is doing better.

Later.

Jaden - [jaden1444@aol.com]
Saturday, November 30, 2002 09:03:28 PM
IP: 172.191.24.86

*Warpmind wanders in, pondering.*
So I take an online test, to see where my soul comes from... Apparently, my origin is in Hell. Weird, that; my most frequently used online roleplay persona is a Demon, Valentine here's accused me of being Demonspawn, the only person I've met who loudly states that I scare her plays *Vampire: the Masquerade*, and kittens tend to flock around me...
Add, then, that I found that two of my direct ancestors were named Adam and Lilith, and I'm getting REALLY curious here... }:)

Anyway, replies.

Fire Storm: Glad to hear LM's doing better. :)

Josh: Um... No, I don't think that's a viable interpretation... seeing as I was fully mobile in the context, and could go into warmer buildings. Plus, *she* was on the coldest corners... *Thinks* Actually, it seems to me she may be building on some sorta Frost Armor, but that might just be my freakish interpretation... ��

Gside: Heh, and you think YOU were surprised to see Spacie'd had me for lunch - imagine MY surprise, being on the other side of the Atlantic at the time. ;P Oh, and from the comments on my dream, there, I'd say you're a disturbed nut. Care to become my newest apprentice? };)

Ravenes: Pardon me for butting into your argument with Josh here, but... I really gotta agree with him to some extent. I've been hanging out here for YEARS, and your posts are the first to agonize me. So please, as a favor to us, and to yourself, try spellchecking your posts before you press "Submit"...

Spacebabie: You've been having freaky dreams, too? Was I there? Was I good or bad? };)

Phire_kat: That looks like a pretty interesting start. When's the finished product due? :)

Well, that about concludes my late-night post. I gotta get some stuff done; I have Commisar Stoner's Drug Squad to finish for Warhammer 40K (Think half a dozen Jay and Silent Bobs in a huge tank), as well as my familiar for D&D (if you've seen Pet Shop Of Horrors, I'm using Count D's bat-bunny-thing as a template, with the DM's approval...), and I'll probably find something else that needs doing, as well, before I get tired enough to go to sleep... :P
See y'all around, folks.
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmindATtiscaliDOTno]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Saturday, November 30, 2002 07:03:30 PM
IP: 213.142.69.41

*Walks into room, filled with pride and clears throat* I've got to say i'm very happy at the moment because I've just found out I've passed my grade 2 music exam. *swells with pride* Anyway I thought I would just say that because it means a lot to me. *Sticks award next to best action fic from Awakening awards and best outragous fic from the halloween femslash challenge* :D
Silverbolt
Saturday, November 30, 2002 06:06:54 PM
IP: 213.1.100.166

1st, this post was done with Mozilla.

Imzadi - <<But here's an idea. If you're so short-staffed, why don't you hold recruitment drives more frequently? Like right now, during non-production?> Define production. I know of two series where stories are being written. <And since they did just pledge a metric buttload of money to me for graduate school, the least I could do is take time out of my overloaded schoolwork to go see them.> Is Procrastination the cause of the overloaded schoolwork? <59. I will never build a sentient computer smarter than I am.> So you don't trust computer AI not to turn against your? :-) <Thanks, redneck jedi.> The best puppeteers don't work with strings.

I watched "Die Another Day" last night and pleasantly enjoyed it.

Phire-Kat - Please headers on any fan-fiction you decide to post some those of us who don't want to read it can skip over it much easier.

Spacebabie - <Lots of pies...Pecan> We may have a competition for best Pecan Pie.

Niamhgold - <Quick poll, just because I'm curious. Is Flash good or bad...and why? :) > Bad, mostly because it is used to display ads.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, November 30, 2002 01:54:21 PM
IP: 204.94.193.16

Look, if I did offend anybody, okay, sorry, whatever. I was not saying that the WHOLE staff are lazy arses, I can understand the TGS having a major artist shortage and a huge writer's block, basically. I have those all the time.

*sighs and wishes that the TGS CR was the way it was in 99/00* It was a lot of simplier then...

*brushes having negative off of her and goes out, whistling "Tell Me Why" from Berserk*
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Saturday, November 30, 2002 01:13:59 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

** Niamhgold enters **

Quick poll, just because I'm curious. Is Flash good or bad...and why? :)

In the course of my paper I've found lots of cool sites. It's one of my conclusions that while experimental websites (which are more like RPGs) are really cool when done in Flash (and the developers know WAAY too much about scripting ;)), commercial sites are probably best left to being based in html, with Flash elements incorporated but not used as the platform.

Whatever. My head hurts.

I finished buying all my presents, saw Harry Potter yesterday, and came out of the theater to discover a snowstorm. We managed to get home with only one skid-out (thank you Jeep!), but my brother slid into a row of small trees. He's now been initiated into the realm of winter driving--he's alive, the car's fine, and now his insurance will skyrocket because the cops were involved ;) I fared better during my first time ;)

Gside: <Salami and cheddar> Made yourself, or ordered? Awwww. Me too. <He happen to be taking Principles of Programming Languages (198:314> Possibly. I'll be sure to ask Liz when I fly back. <The good news is we have a real turkey for the rest of us.> I have since had turkey chili, turkey stir-fry, and turkey-noodle soup. <Watching a woman get it on with a grocery store quarter driven octopus.> Aww, and we don't *have* any quarter driven octopi! ;) <Am I supposed to spit those out, or swallow them?> Swallow, dude. Always swallow.

FS: <My my, arn't you a horny little toad> Horny little MONKEY, thank-you-very-much ;) <The coolest thing about cider coke is the deep woody sound you get when you tap the glass> Really? Interesting. <When you get in power, mandate that women will have sex with men when ever they want! Hmm... problem. Nothing will get done! ;)> Thus, I shall rule--mandates don't apply ;)
I hope LM is okay...collapsing sucks.

Imzadi: <BBQ Chicken Pizza, or Pineapple and Onion> The latter's good. <Its good that their instilling the minimalism of flash. CUZ FLASH IS EVIL!> No, Flash + the wrong hands = EVIL. Hmmm...::devious thinking:: <Really? I see a lot of those on Flash sites.> No, those are just squares ;) Mondrian squares are metaphorical. <Mmmm...sandra bullock...> Too bad I made the gypsy woman the sexy one. <Ooh ooh AAH AAH!> Now just say "please, with a cherry on top"! <That is, it weighs 20 lbs because she feeds it blocks of cheese> Like our turkey. <Depends...where is my car?> He'd already vandalized it at that point ;) <if you installed Windows on a mac, you'd have all the disadvantages of windows and none of the advantages of the mac!> Advantages of the mac? You must be speaking a separate language, sir. Mine shall die. Or be buried in snow. And die. <When she's not making pumpkin pie.> Do not disturb. I'm baking off. <Normally, I'd say its a complete waste of a day, but my grandparents aren't too healthy and I'm worried that I might not have many more chances to see them if any> Aww, I'm sorry. Is this the dirty-joke grandfather? In any case, you're right to enjoy them while you may. I'd wish I'd been able to do that kind of thing with mine. I have 3 words for you: New England Lobster.

Godiva: <My favorite pizza is Sausage Pepperoni, Mushrooms, Tomatoes with a little extra sauce.> You've made many men happy with that one, chica ;)

Spacebabie: Sorry, I don't play like that ;) But if you mean visit Disney World, sure ;) Many condolences on the loss of your pet.

Adios
Niamhgold
Saturday, November 30, 2002 12:16:56 PM
IP: 12.104.22.16

Josh > glad you survived the mall. A friend of ours works at Best Buy, and he staggered over after escaping yesterday, looking like a zombie deer in the headlights.

Leo > spoiler or not, you'd be right <g>

Mooncat > ::gasp!:: you dropped your GAME for fanfic? Priorities, woman! LOL. As for the super-woman juggling thing, there's no way I couldn't do it if I hadn't finally earned my way through hell to my nice cushy night-shift job ; )

Spacebabie > subconscious, that's what Jericho is all about!

All's well here. Going out to the Christmas In Seattle gift show today. Then putting up the decorations!
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, November 30, 2002 12:04:10 PM
IP: 65.239.47.171

Finally soem free time. I first apologize for being so absent. It was not my desire, but times have been busy, and the higher ups don't like it for us to have a webscreen up while working.

Raveness> So Imzadi is a d*ck, this is a surprise? Best thing is not to let his cutting comments get to you. For a while I took his comments a bit personally and it was really stupid of me.

Besides, Greg X is worse :)

Bud-Clare> Please post here again. I enjoyed seeing you here, even if I've not been able to post much.

I will e-mail you shortly.

Now to do the list.

Fruit: Orange (except on St. Patrick's Day)
Veggie: Spinach
Meat: Lamb, with pheasant a close second
Baked good: Croissant
Meal: soylent green j/k; seriously, anything from the Medditeraenean
Ice cream flavor: Espresso
Cookie: Scottish shortening
Breakfast food: biscuits
Cereal: Don't
Candy: Heath bar
Soda: generic cream soda
Non mixed drink: Don't
Mixed drink: virgin pina colada or liquer over vanilla ice cream

Gabriel> I haven't been able toview any IMs since I've been deployed or even when I was back in Schroeder's Reichland. I imagien it was over my quip about Palestine. Maybe it was over the top, but it was meant to be a snide cheap shot :)

Jackal> I hope you're enjoying Afghanistan ;)

Starsinger> I am glad to see you post and wish to see you here more often. ia m sorry about being so bad about e-mails. I haven't forgotten you, nor will I ever forget my TGS CR mom ::hugs::

Interesting Kosovo event:

Wednesday night, Drew Carey was at Camp Bondsteel and I met him at dinner. I told him that Patrick Toman (no names were given) considered him and Dilbert role models. Drew Carey's response: It's good to have heroes :)

After dinner, he went to the Theatre and did a rendition of Who's Line is it Anyway with tons of Kosovo related commentary. Also, he went to Kosovo out fo his pocket, which was really patriotic of him and incredibly generous as he essentially gave up his Thanksgiving for us.

Kaioto> I heartd about the big dig and all the corruption. I just thought it was standard pork. I'd love to see it blow up in Ted Kennedy's face, maybe give him a heart attack,a nd with Mitt Romeny as Governor, I cannot think fo a better time for Teddy to get a heart attack or John Kerry to take a flight in a small plane during bad weather ;)

So the voters bought Big labor in Massachusettes. Not surprising. It would be nice if New York, California, Massachusettes, Rhode Island, Vermont, Connecticut, New Jersey, Maryland, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia all became right-to-work states and the Unions were all given a boot up the ass that protruded from their belly, but as soon as that happens I wake up :)

Spacebabie> ::hugs:: To lose an animal like that is awful.

Ed> Well, I was just upset about Blair undoubtedly being behind knighting Mick Jagger who has done nothing to earn it. At least other knighted rockers have done considerable charity work.

I agree that Zimbabwe is an issue and Mugabe is despicable for what he has done to his people. I have heard little from Blair, Bush, or Amensty International about him. Sudan and mauritania which still engage in slavery get little attention.

As for the fireman's strike, I wonder if the World Workers Party was involved as they would want to forestall the military in the eve of a possible war with Iraq.

I also wonder if Blair can stay in as he has undoubtedly upset the Sadaam-loving mushbarined tofu wing of his own Labour Party. But they may need Blair to keep Laboru in power, as Democrats needed Clinton to win the White House where many others in their ranks are unelectable ::coughcoughGephardtcoughcough

Godiva> You live in the Inland Empire and work in Los Angeles. Isn't that a long commute? I could never stand to take that long just to get to work.

Heather> I understand what you mean, but it woudl behoove you to apologize to those on staff who have doen an outstanding job in spite of all the delays and rl interference. I know I could not be on staff with my erractic internet time as it is.

Hyperion> Next time I can afford a nice trip, I will let you know. The Bacilica Cistern was beautiful and had a lovely effect, perfect for the Phantom of the Opera or for a honeymoon if I ever get married, doubtful as I have given up on love. I have a friend in Istanbul who could hook up up with soem good deals on hotel rooms or one of our firends coudl host us. She has a firend who is a professional tour guide and could take us to the Izmir area or anywhere. Izmir has much to appeal to me and so does Cappedocia with its cavern homes. Southern Turkey is also nice as it is Northern Mesopatamia and has the source of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. Not as much in accomadations, but to say that you have been to the sources of the Tigris and Euphrates is one of those memories that makes life worth living.

Not much else from me. Bye bye
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Camp Bondsteel, Kosovo
Saturday, November 30, 2002 10:03:25 AM
IP: 136.216.75.6

F.S.:<>I posted that before I read It. I should have let the admins make the call. Sory about that, admins.
Leo
Saturday, November 30, 2002 08:19:56 AM
IP: 68.96.8.12

<<But here's an idea. If you're so short-staffed, why don't you hold recruitment drives more frequently? Like right now, during non-production?>> Unfortunately, the current Administration Policy is not to hold one until we're finished with the current Breakdowns, since otherwise the newcomers might have difficulty gettting caught up on what's already been done. For now, we just have to hope that our recruitment drive before we start on Season Five Breakdowns will fare a lot better than our pre-Season Four recruitment drive (nearly everybody who came on board in that one dropped out in a hurry, although one member did last for a year before he decided that he just didn't have enough free time to work on TGS and left).

*BUFFY SPOILERS *

Yow, the First Evil is definitely getting the upper hand. Now the Watcher's Council has been (apparently) destroyed and the "ultimate vampire" has been summoned with Spike's blood.

I don't think that Giles is actually on the casualties list - partly because he's supposed to get his own spin-off on the BBC, and partly because if they did have a major character like him die on the series, they'd be much more clear about it (the fact that they cut-off just as the guy is swinging at him would argue for the likelihood that he survived - either he was taken alive, or else he managed to get away).

* SPOILERS END *

Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, November 30, 2002 07:01:11 AM
IP: 63.208.47.17

My friend woke me up this morning to tell me that she would buy her new iMac over winter break, which saved me from devoting a whole day to computer shopping (for someone else; for myself I wouldn't mind). So my dad informs me that we're taking off to visit my grandparents, which becomes a whole day affair. Normally, I'd say its a complete waste of a day, but my grandparents aren't too healthy and I'm worried that I might not have many more chances to see them if any. And since they did just pledge a metric buttload of money to me for graduate school, the least I could do is take time out of my overloaded schoolwork to go see them.

So the drive began (the live over an hour south of us along the 405, so this isn't exactly a quick trip)...I tried to take out my laptop and work on my paper, but after about half a page of typing I remembered that reading and driving didn't sit well with me. So much for that idea.

Before we saw my grandparents, we went to this MASSIVE mall (South Coast Plaza, I think it is). Traffic was awful around the mall, stupid day-after-thanksgiving shopping. Lots of stores of every type, even a seasonal Lego store. The store had a 25% off sale on star wars legos, so I scored Jango Fett's Slave I. They didn't have the really big blockade runner, which I'd have bought in a flash. I also scored the new star wars book, Destiny's Way. Haven't touched either yet.

We had dinner with my grandparents at this cool place that played rock music and had awesome food. I had these scallops prepared with hoisin sauce (I *love* seafood!). It was nice to spend time with them again. I hope they're still around when I get back from school for winter break. They're at that stage in their life where I actually have to worry about that (a completely new feeling for me).

When I got back I made up for lost work time by finishing my wood design and steel design assignments for next week and starting the milestone summary for the project due next week. Just think, 2 weeks from now I'll be throwing stuff in the car again to head home! Woohoo!

Heather: <<sorry for me giving my comment about it>>: It may be a TGS comment room, but I don't think its fair to make comments about the writer's personality quirks in that context (note that its never stopped anyone from doing it, so don't let it stop you). <<giving him counseling doesn't work>>: This is counseling?

Todd: <<We hope that the next time that we hold a recruitment drive, we will be able to build up our numbers to a much more effective size>>: That would be cool. I think if I had time I'd join up...maybe in a couple years if the project is still around. But here's an idea. If you're so short-staffed, why don't you hold recruitment drives more frequently? Like right now, during non-production?

Ravenes: <<Your posts an't worth me reading>>: Sorry to hear that. Apparently some people find enjoyment in them. <<You should duy some Self esteem>>: I tried to interpret that sentence, but had no luck. What did you mean? <<Then mabey people would acshelly be nice to u>>: I don't really have that problem. I just don't suffer fools. I don't care if fools are nice to me or not.

Christine: <<godspeed to those who venture out today>>: Boy do I wish I hadn't!

Mooncat: <<did you get to watch LotR?>>: NO! Argh, I'm so annoyed. We started it last night after dinner. We got about 20 minutes in before my parents started dozing off, so we stopped it. They really want to see it before the new movie comes out (since they really don't remember all the way back to a year ago). We were supposed to resume this morning, but instead we schlepped to the grandparents. I can't wait to check out all the features. The fact that the DVD comes with a *map* is really cool!

Revel: <<Now if I just had someone to wake up next to I'd be golden>>: I feel your pain, dude. Soon enough. <<sucking air instead of blowing (that sounded worse than it was suppose to>>: "It's mega maid, sir! She's gone from suck to blow!"

Spacebabie: <<Bet you gagged>>: No, they didn't use the same kind that they use for braces. This one was curved instead of just a giant plate that goes in your mouth. THAT one makes me gag. <<Congrats>>: Danke. <<What if the foot was covered with whip cream>>: Depends on whose foot. And where its been recently. <<I�d keep the hurricans If we could get rid of the southerners>>: LOL! <<Hot cars and fast women>>: Thanks, don't mind if I do!

Phire_kat: That was beautifully written.

Gside: <>: I know, but I'm not there yet. <<Not sure, ask Freud>>: I'd be afraid to. He'd probably offer me coke. <<yet you have shown great inclinations towards starting them yourself>>: Is it really starting one if you're just hyper-defensive?

59. I will never build a sentient computer smarter than I am.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Encino, CA, US of A
Saturday, November 30, 2002 03:28:52 AM
IP: 67.118.128.253

Lain> <<and isnt the engrish the best part?>>: Not really, I would have liked it better without that "twiceu" or "wirr"

Imzadi> <<I'm just watching disc 1 now>>: I was referring to a preferance on non movie discs.
<<That sounds painful>>: I've heard some people like it.
<<What does Lynati have to do with his mother?>>: Not sure, ask Freud.
<<Lucky you!>>: Food wise, definitely. And he is my brother, so we annoy each other endlessly. SO, over all, yes.
Ravenes> <>: And yet you have shown great inclinations towards starting them yourself.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, November 30, 2002 01:13:03 AM
IP: 68.38.240.227

Leo: <If you want input on your fics, just leave s simple comment and a reference to the name of your story>
I dunno... I am not an admin, but I think a story teaser that short is ok. I mean, don't post the ENTIRE story in here, but that isn't even a screen worth on my system.

LM is at work and I am going to go pick her up... HOPEFULLY without incident!
FIre Storm
Saturday, November 30, 2002 12:31:36 AM
IP: 66.72.186.61

Thing is, its not fan fic. and your right it is the beginning of one of my stories, theres was a lot more but I just wanted to know if the beginning was okay. But don't worry I won't post any more of my work in here, just cos none of it is done yet.
Phire_kat
Middle Of Nowhere, Novofluoxtine, Canada
Friday, November 29, 2002 08:43:43 PM
IP: 65.93.45.53

Ok group, Someone has a virus. bug, or whatever. The last few days I have gotten e-mails from LadyMystic, Kheetor (Heather) and Tailweaver. They are not actual mails just some type of spam. Having played with most of you, I know this is not being done deliberately. Just thought you might like to look into it. I know I'm probably still on these peoples address books. Hi! Yes I'm still alive.

Starsinger
Starsinger - [Starsinger@Webtv.net]
Friday, November 29, 2002 08:14:49 PM
IP: 209.240.198.61

Phire_kat:<<*demo what do ya think?*>> It seems like a good beginning though. :)
Leo
Friday, November 29, 2002 07:37:31 PM
IP: 68.96.8.12

That should say: "NOT a "beta test page" :)
Leo
Friday, November 29, 2002 07:29:18 PM
IP: 68.96.8.12

Phire_kat:>There is a separate site for posting fanfic. It's called the "Fanfiction Archive" This is a comment room tot a "beta test page" for fics. If you want input on your fics, just leave s simple comment and a reference to the name of your story. :)
Leo
Friday, November 29, 2002 07:27:15 PM
IP: 68.96.8.12

The soft whisper of the wind made the weeping willow sway. She sat cradled in the crook of one branch, facing out towards the setting sun. The wheat field beyond was a soft gold, flecked with orange, it rippled in the gentle summer breeze. The road between was dusty and old; it had been made thousands of years ago, stomped out by travelers from far off places on route to Ionos. Phire parted her lips and whistled, closing her eyes she smiled. From Ionos most travelers would head out west to the seaside town of Lavmin, crossing through the last of Ionos�s farmlands and into the Cusio forest. She had not seen the sea since she was a little girl. Her mother used to take her there to meet her father when he came home from his worldly travels. With him he would bring gifts and amazing treasures for his daughters. They would spend the day on the beach, listening to his stories and eating a special picnic that their mother had made. They would chase the waves until the sun kissed the sea. The trips to see her father stopped abruptly, forcing the family to face the reality of his death.
She leaned back against the ancient tree, her feet dangling; below the grass was sprinkled with tiny violet flowers. Asleep in a patch of sweet clovers was Grim, his giant falcon head resting on a root, his bronze wings tucked tightly against his golden body, tail twitching. Suddenly he raised his head and let out a deep throaty growl. Phire glanced down at him, and then stood up, she walked carefully along the limb and stared out through the drooping branches of the tree. In black leather tights and a frilly white tunic came Basil, his long blond hair flaring out behind him as he ran. Phire looked up and grabbed the branch above, pulling herself up into the denser part of the tree. The protective gryphon growled again, resting his head on his large claws. Basil stopped at the base of the tree; he gazed up into the waving leaves that shimmered in the fading light. He turned to the oversized pet with his hands on his hips.
�What are you lookin� at?� he snapped, Grim gave Basil an indifferent snort and closed his eyes hoping to go back to sleep. Basil made a face then shouted, �I know you�re up there! Mirriam�s having a cow; she�s got the whole castle out looking for you! She plans on chaining you to the . . . � Phire stopped listening and idly picked at a piece of flaking bark, she grinned viciously and whipped the bark down towards Basil�s head. A surprised shout came from the blond elf, �You little witch! Get your pansy ass down here, or so help me I�ll come up after you. And I�m so not in the mood for games!�
�You�re never in the mood for anything, only when the timing suits you, its gotta be your game or no game . . . � She paused, Basil was pacing around the tree, he tripped on a root, fell with a squawk and lay sprawled on the ground. �...Look out below!� Phire landed with a thud, when Basil opened his eyes he found he was pinned to the ground. She smiled down at him then rested her chin on her arms, which were crossed over his chest. Grim was watching the two from the corner of his eye; he made a clicking sound by snapping his beak that signaled he was not impressed by their foolish behavior. Phire reached out and started braiding his bangs; she looked at her companion and said sarcastically �Go chase your tail you jealous peacock.� Grim�s head shot up, he narrowed his eye and snorted at her comment. She laughed and continued to play with Basil�s hair. Basil started to wiggle trying to shake her off,
�You know,� he said �we�ve got to stop meeting like this.� He smiled back at her, his canine teeth gleaming. He realized he did not have her full attention when he saw her smile fade and her body stiffen. Grim stood, listening to a sound that they could not yet hear. Phire jumped to her feet staining to see what her gryphon heard. At first there was nothing but the forests� shadows playing on the face of the eastern mountains, and a few black birds fleeing from the forest. Basil joined them and watched as a cloud of dust began to rise at the edge of the trees. The sound of pounding hooves drew nearer, a whip cracked the air making everything flinch and whine. A creature as large as a horse charged up over a hill in the distance, it great blood red tongue lolled out the side of is spit-covered muzzle. Its color changed with each stride, it was like a shadow of the night sky, pitch black, dusky blue, deep purple. Its eyes were shining white like stars, it body sleek and cat like with charcoal hooves that dug deep into the earth, pulling up clods of dirt. The whip rang out again along with a howl of agony from the creature. A dark brown chariot with silver trim was being pulled behind it. A tall woman holding the reins in one hand and a leather whip in the other screamed at her stead in a foreign language. She wore a crimson cloak that flew out behind her, thrashing about like flames in the raging wind. She was pale, with hawk like features under short black hair and sunken eyes. If anything was in her path it would not have time to run, she sped past them still screaming at the creature that bore her chariot, the whip flew again and then they were gone, down the hill and across the meadow.*demo what do ya think?*
Phire_kat - [torrent_of_words@hotmail.com]
Middle Of Nowhere, Novofluoxtine, Canada
Friday, November 29, 2002 05:38:20 PM
IP: 65.93.45.53

We managed to get through the holiday. I think Dad cooked the turkey to long cause the meat slid off the bones.

Lots of pies...Pecan((My mom is Texan))) Mincemeat, and Sweet Potato. And other good stuff, mashed potatoes with skins, candied yams, stuffing, gravy, Green bean casserole, broccoli with cheese, turnips, and rolls.

I learned another good thing about the boy moving out�He took some of the food with him, even thought he insisted on watching Smack Down over here.

And tonight is the first night of Hanukah

Replies

Stephen>>>I don�t think they said whether it was male or female.

Gside<<>>Down here they do

Warpmind<<<been having weird dreams lately... >>>You are preaching to the choir.

Firestorm>>>Glad to know LM will be feeling better.

Josh<<<to the dentist's today to have a mold made so I can get a mouth guard.>>>Bet you gagged<<>>Congrats<<<!@#$ I missed that.>>>It was one of those blink and you�ll miss it things <<<That would taste even worse.>>>What if the foot was covered with whip cream.<<<You don't look anything like any drawing I've seen of Aiden.>>>I have her personality.<<<No, just hurricanes. And southerners>>>I�d keep the hurricans If we could get rid of the southerners.<<<fast cars and hot women... ...or is it the other way around? >>>Hot cars and fast women?

Mooncat<<<Next ep of GNL will be out in a few weeks>>>Yay, more Delilah?

Christine<<<but he probably would >>>I guess that�s why my sub conscious created that image?

Lain<<<"WITCH HUNTER ROBIN" RULES!!!!!!!>>>Any relation to Devil Hunter Yohko?<<<a hunter named "robin".>>>Please tell me this is not going to become a trend.

Heather<<<*looks at the title of the forum and points* >>> Yeah it�s the TGS comment room. We do comment about the episodes, but it�s rude to express opinions that have no truth to them. The situation has changed, and I think you OWE people like Todd, Lain, Revel, GXB, DPH and the others who ACTUALLY work on the staff an apology. You may have not meant it, but you did INSULT them.

Revel<<<Now if I just had someone to wake up next to I'd be golden.>>>Patience darling :::smooch:::

Now I�m off to do some Chibi drawing

3.�Where is the university for courage?�The university for courage is to do what you believe in.� ~El Cordobes
Spacbabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Friday, November 29, 2002 04:27:58 PM
IP: 64.156.211.166

Hello, the drive was boring as usual, the traffic semi-light, the food great, the compay, well, some things never change, leave it at that :P I finished my projects before I left so I can actually enjoy my break and wake up late and be lazy. Now if I just had someone to wake up next to I'd be golden.

FS- Glad to hear Lady Mystic is fine, a friend of mine at school is Anemic and has a tendency to faint or black out so I know how it can be rather alarming.

Spacebabie- Very sorry to hear about your dog *hugs* :( Hope your vacation has gotten better.

Josh- messed it up huh? No worries, done it before myself. I once hooked the fan motor for my a/c in my car and the think actuall was sucking air instead of blowing (that sounded worse than it was suppose to) the factory painted the wires backwards so I just had to switch them.

Back to doing nothing then.

my quote of the day.

Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
the bayou city, tx
Friday, November 29, 2002 03:23:03 PM
IP: 67.192.130.128

Josh - did you get to watch LotR? Kewl, wasn't it! I wound up watching it again on Turkey Day, with a friend who needed cheering up. Her husband is in Japan and paperwork to get him a working/living visa in the US missed a deadline, and she won't be seeing him for a longer while. She was totally crushed, she was hoping he'd make it in for Thanksgiving. Also, she and her mom's boyfriend dislike each other intensely, and her mom went to said boyfriend's family's Thanksgiving. So my friend was left with no family Turkey Day celebration. After I got done with having a turkey day meal with my mother and had dropped her back at her home, I went to get my friend and had Turkey Day all over again at my house. Meant I didn't get a lot of work I'd planned on done, but the movie is good enough for multiple fun viewings. yay!

Series and work - well I'm very impressed with TGS, and if there is a lull, it's very understandable. Struggling with deadlines and GNL in the middle of a holiday season, I totally sympathize with juggling real life with the writing and producing tasks. My friend was in fact nattering at me that Gargoyles is taking over my life, because I've dropped the Friday game nights and a lot of other outside activities to work on Gargoyles stuff. She isn't that happy with me, because I'm supposed to be working on some original novels. eep! I'm stretched to thin on projects. I envy Christine emensely that she can do fan fic, original stuff, and juggle a 'real life' all at the same time. Christine is my idea of Super Woman *^_~* heh.

Well, got to get to bills and other real life minutia.

lates
MC
Mooncat
Friday, November 29, 2002 01:03:04 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

*****That may be considered a possible Guardian Spoiler*****

I apologise if I just ruined it for everyone. :-(

Leo
Friday, November 29, 2002 12:46:48 PM
IP: 68.96.8.12

Christine: Ohh goodie, new Morgan fic.

Diamond Academy - before I read it let me guess.

Diamond Acadamy is to the Coaltition what Sterling is to the Illuminati. :)

_____________________________

Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Leo
Friday, November 29, 2002 12:42:47 PM
IP: 68.96.8.12

Happy Shopping Day! Tim tried to stop by the mall at six, and it was already a zoo. Good luck and godspeed to those who venture out today.

I just posted a new Guardians fanfic, "Speed Demons." It's set at the Sterling Academy, when track star Dee Maza gets a real run for her money from new student Feral St. John, as well as the improved team from rival Diamond Academy. Click for the fic, or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/speed_demons.html
Christine - [<--- new fanfic]
Friday, November 29, 2002 12:31:04 PM
IP: 65.239.13.149

Ravenes> We've been telling him that for a long time and giving him counseling doesn't work. Just let ihm talk and be "nice" and nod your head, two ways to ignore him, never respond to him or never post here.
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Friday, November 29, 2002 11:51:48 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Josh> Your posts an't worth me reading. You know there only make me mad. I hate fights on the net. Espeshely about spelling. You should duy some Self esteem. Then mabey people would acshelly be nice to u! :)
Ravenes
Friday, November 29, 2002 09:32:45 AM
IP: 24.86.117.45

I'd say it's true that in the fairly short time I've been on the staff (four months - and I was away for 3 weeks of that) much of the discussion, for 'Gargoyles' and 'Pendragon' at least, has taken place between a relatively small group because many of important staff members are simply unable to contribute as fully as they would like for various reasons. I�m not sure it�s a very fair assessment to say that they don�t want to do the work � that�s just the way things are. Wanting to and being able to are quite different things and because of the complexity of the series, catch-up isn�t easy.

But the flip side is that despite those difficulties, a whole lot is being achieved. So my advice is, don�t panic. There�s a great season of �Pendragon� on the way, a great season of �Gargoyles� and �Bad Guys� sounds pretty cool too although I�ve nothing to do with that. Apparently there�s this whole super-exciting thing with *chewing gum!!* � crazy.
Ed - [ed@steelclaw.org]
London, England
Friday, November 29, 2002 08:33:37 AM
IP: 131.111.8.98

Well, in regards to the TGS-slowdown: the main problem's been that a lot of us have been finding it more difficult to get in the time to discuss stories and get them written and edited (not to mention that I understand we've got a serious art staff shortage as well - only four people left, and one of them at least is feeling burned-out), given a lot of other responsibilities on our hands lately. (I've been reasonably fortunate in that I've had a good deal of free time to contribute to TGS in the mornings and evenings; others have been less so). One particular example that I can mention: one of our leading staff members is also on the Gathering 2003 committe, and so has had less time to dedicate to TGS than he'd like because he has to spend some time preparing for the 2003 Gathering in New York (in addition to regular work and school). And, unfortunately, we do have a smaller-sized staff this season than we did in previous ones. We hope that the next time that we hold a recruitment drive, we will be able to build up our numbers to a much more effective size.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Friday, November 29, 2002 07:01:20 AM
IP: 67.28.95.25

Well sorry for me giving my comment about it... *looks at the title of the forum and points*
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Friday, November 29, 2002 06:58:21 AM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Well, I don't know about you guys, but this holiday season I'm thankful for fast cars and hot women...

...or is it the other way around?

Thanksgiving has come and gone. Two of the people that were supposed to show up for our dinner didn't because someone had to go to the emergency room. That brought it down to 8 people, our family and a family that we've been friendly with for 20 years or so.

I also spent today performing upgrades on my brother's iMac. Everything went much smoother than last time, when I had to reformat my brother's hard drive because I somehow totally fscked it.

Silverbolt: <<No disrespect to people who do but I'm one of these people who just don't like cats!>>: That doesn't mean its okay for them to die!

Mooncat: <<Next ep of GNL will be out in a few weeks>>: Woohoo! <<just a quickie>>: Tempting, but I'll pass. <>: Now if I could just find 4 hours to sit down and watch it. I guess its really a whole-day affair to do everything, huh?

Ravenes: <<Is that all you care about is spelling?>>: No, but I certainly find it amusing that you get so worked up about it, that's why I keep taunting you. <<skeaking on the topic of caring, You a good listner>>: I have no idea what that sentence means. But whatever.

Heather: <<Lack of staff that actually wants to do work>>: Excuse me, but WHO ARE YOU!? What gives you the right to comment on how hard the writers work? I don't see YOU putting out a series that follows the exploits of our favorite heroes. Constructive criticism is one thing, outright calling the authors lazy is quite another.

JackaL: <>: I think he's evil.

Lain: <>: It comes her vast experience of living under her mother's foot. << if you dont mind.. a little less with the snarky comments would be appreciated>>: You must have us confused with a different CR.

DPH: <<Does that include hitting man-sized targets that are moving up to 10mph?>>: Yes, especially with laser beams that travel at the speed of light (i.e. ALL of them!). <<you don't see no hidden daggers>>: Thanks, redneck jedi.

Gside: <<There is nothing there that is more important than health. If she sneezes, she can take that as a sign not to update>>: I use weather 8-) <>: I'm just watching disc 1 now. <<laughter was the best suppository>>: That sounds painful. <<Amazingly enough, no>>: No, I'd expect that from you. <<I'm already strange enough>>: True, true. <<Or maybe he wants to have sex with his mother>>: What does Lynati have to do with his mother? <<This year he stayed home>>: Lucky you!

58. If it becomes necessary to escape, I will never stop to pose dramatically and toss off a one-liner.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Encino, CA, US of A
Friday, November 29, 2002 01:31:32 AM
IP: 67.117.14.189

heather>> <<that one time TGS had a lot of staff members but only... maybe... 30 percent actually wanted to do the work, the rest just joined to see what stuff happens in the series then left after getting what they wanted>> yes, this may be true but it is not anymore and will never be situation of the TGS staff. in the future, perhaps it would be better to let the staff answer questions directed at them, rather than people who think they know whats going on giving people second-hand/old information.

gside>> <<naruto>> yes, this is also highly amusing.. i think his jutsus are pretty darned funny, too.. and isnt the engrish the best part? well.. other than all the nosebleeds.. ;)
lain
Friday, November 29, 2002 12:35:13 AM
IP: 65.93.72.17

*The aforementioned satellite controlled by DPH starts targeting a tire on Heather's vehicle and fires, blowing out said tire*

Heather - < Let me rephrase myself, from what Robby has told me, that one time TGS had a lot of staff members but only... maybe... 30 percent actually wanted to do the work, the rest just joined to see what stuff happens in the series then left after getting what they wanted.> There's a new internal motto for TGS members: Contribute or leave. Lain & I have already performed one internal cut for non-contributing members and another will be coming relatively soon.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, November 29, 2002 12:32:11 AM
IP: 204.94.193.29

Today was pretty much more of a Thanksgiving recovery than a Thanksgiving. Ham and turkey sandwiches abounding. We used my aunt's turkey for a birthday last weekend, and we have a turkey defrosting somewhere in school ready to try out the rotisserie again.

Warpmind> <<even when Spacebabie claimed ot have had me for lunch>>: I was rather surprised about that.
<<if ANYONE can explain why, in my dreams>>: It's the fault of the Wingless. See Mr. Gagne's Slayers trilogy. At least you don't have any penguins.
<<Later, folks>>: Sooner, I would hope.

Fire Storm> Good to hear it is nothing immediately serious.
<<saying she has to do a TGS CR Info Update>>: There is nothing there that is more important than health. If she sneezes, she can take that as a sign not to update.
<>: What will you be having?

Imzadi> <<Lord of the Rings special cracked-out 4 DVD's of Tolkien-y goodness>>: Saw discs three and four yesterday and today. The weapons were on disc three, but the fun stuff with the cast was on disc four. I don't know which disc I like better.
<<Bet that doesn't taste too good>>: Mine tastes like chicken.
<<Jack Handey says laughter is the best medicine>>: I thought it was "laughter was the best suppository."
<<Ever seen the back of a $20...on WEED?>>: Amazingly enough, no. I'm already strange enough.
<<No ook>>: Tell that to the librarian.
<<Good job>>: Thank you. And now she's afraid of failing too many people, so she's giving out extra credit like candy.
<<Do it anyway>>: Man.
<<You still want to hook up with her and she's leaving you out in the cold>>: Or maybe he wants to have sex with his mother.

Lain> <<what could be better than THAT>>: Naruto. Nine Tails Fox sealed in the body of a young ninja. Besides having Seki Toshihiko for a voice, I admire Naruto for inventing Sexy no Jutsu, and Harem no Jutsu. Oh, and the end theme is pretty good, even if it is Engrish.

Niamhgold> <<in some cases, tofurkey>>: This year he stayed home. He had already made the trip the previous weekend.

DPH> <<only change one battery at a time with a calculator to keep from losing memory>>: I only changed the AAAs, not the watch battery.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, November 29, 2002 12:09:24 AM
IP: 68.38.240.227

Leviathan - <It is now going on 2 years since the last episode of GARGOYLES SAGA has been posted. Some ne episodes have been posted to TIMEDANCER, but nothing has appeared in any of the other series. What gives?> First, outlines have to be produced before stories can be written. Second, those stories have to be written and edited for release. Trust me: there will be some stories released next year.

Fire Storm - my sympathies.

ImpFac - <Back from the crazy hospital> Then, you're in the wrong place: only crazies post here.

Spacebabie - my condolences.

Gside - <My calsulator wiped its memory while I was changing its batteries today> Note: only change one battery at a time with a calculator to keep from losing memory.

Imzadi - <56. My Legions of Terror will be trained in basic marksmanship. Any who cannot learn to hit a man-sized target at 10 meters will be used for target practice.> Does that include hitting man-sized targets that are moving up to 10mph?

Yggsdrasil - <Just wanted to stop by and say thank you to the TGS staff for another season well done. Your hard work and dedication are appreciated> Thank you very much.

Imzadi - *rolls up my sleeves* you don't see no hidden daggers, *Pulls off some fake skin to reveal a small hidden crossbow* but other weapons are far more usefull. *Puts fake skin back on and rolls down sleeves*

Daniel Johnson - <Feeding me usually works. So naturally, all of these food lists are interesting me.> good, because they bore me.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, November 29, 2002 12:01:00 AM
IP: 204.94.193.14

Lain> Let me rephrase myself, from what Robby has told me, that one time TGS had a lot of staff members but only... maybe... 30 percent actually wanted to do the work, the rest just joined to see what stuff happens in the series then left after getting what they wanted.
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:27:58 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

leviathan>> <<Some ne episodes have been posted to TIMEDANCER, but nothing has appeared in any of the other series. What gives?>> we do things one series at a time.. hence, one series at a time will be released.

heather>> <<Lack of staff that actually wants to do work>> thats a little presumptuous of you, dont you think? seeing as how youre not actually ON the staff, i cant comprehend from whence this vast knowledge of yours seems to be coming.
i dont think anyone outside the staff really has any idea how much work is actually put into creating these stories, outlining, writing, editing, illustrating and releasing these stories, not to mention the amount of work thats put into the maintenence of this site and comment room. we have a lack of staff PERIOD. those that are working are WORKING THEIR ASSES OFF for *YOU* so, if you dont mind.. a little less with the snarky comments would be appreciated.

thankyou.
lain
Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:12:11 PM
IP: 65.93.72.17

i broke down and bought the damn strategy guide for vice city....
i hope everyone that celebrated thanksgiving is stuffed and will soon explode!
i know i will....

Spacebabie- re:buffy i think may the principle may be a watcher, i know it's kind of a stretch, but it would be interesting.

<<the psychiatrist .... thinks I maybe schizophrenic>>
it could be worse, you could be biploar.... munch a couple of E's, (pure E's-molly's), and just listen to sum muzik, call me in the morning.

glad LM is doing ok, FS!

��pops a vicoprofen and leaves to watch tv��
stEphEn (JacKaL - when he's not doing the fusion thing)
Ga
Thursday, November 28, 2002 09:27:40 PM
IP: 172.167.7.9

Lack of staff that actually wants to do work.
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Thursday, November 28, 2002 09:02:35 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

It is now going on 2 years since the last episode of GARGOYLES SAGA has been posted. Some ne episodes have been posted to TIMEDANCER, but nothing has appeared in any of the other series. What gives?
Leviathan - [robeykr@hotmail.com]
Warminster, PA, United States of America
Thursday, November 28, 2002 08:19:07 PM
IP: 68.80.109.9

Josh> Should I take that as a complament or a bad thing? Is that all you care about is spelling? And skeaking on the topic of caring, You a good listner...
Ravenes
Thursday, November 28, 2002 07:40:26 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Happy Thanksgiving all; enjoy your pomegranites, turkey (or in some cases, tofurkey) and the hours of WONDERFUL familial bliss! ;)
Niamhgold
Thursday, November 28, 2002 07:21:21 PM
IP: 12.104.22.135

Happy Thanksgiving, everybody!
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, November 28, 2002 07:09:56 PM
IP: 67.28.90.104

David Goodner - Congrats on getting your email address spoofed to send computer viruses. Just got one from you today. More post later.
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, November 28, 2002 03:55:31 PM
IP: 204.94.193.40

Just stopping thru long enough to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.
Jan
Thursday, November 28, 2002 01:32:28 PM
IP: 12.215.181.120

just a quickie to let everyone know..

"WITCH HUNTER ROBIN" RULES!!!!!!! so dark and mysterious.. and SUCH good animation!!! and the music is really good.. wow.. and plus.. it involves a hunter named "robin".. who is pyrokenetic.. and what could be better than THAT!? :D WOO!!!

*basks in the glory that is shiney new anime*

*koff*

thankyou, have a nice day

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
lain
Thursday, November 28, 2002 12:40:00 PM
IP: 65.93.72.17

Just popping in to say hi while Tim rushes off to the store to get the stuff we forgot -- eggs and condensed milk. Then it's off to the kitchen! So, happy turkey day to those who celebrate it. Indulge and enjoy!

Spacebabie > Jericho on trial ... it may not be what he's _supposed_ to say, but he probably would ;)

Christine
Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:58:11 AM
IP: 65.239.13.157

Just stopping by real quick to say...

Happy Thanksgiving!

Four days off to eat turkey, watch football, and work on my writing... it's almost enough to make me not mind how gosh darned cold it's gotten around here already.

:: turns up the heat and goes off to start cooking food ::
Patrick Toman
Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:42:59 AM
IP: 67.38.244.228

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Hmmm Haven't been here for awhile. I wonder why?

Oh that's right! College. . . . . :P College. *sigh*

Sarge Abernathy

See ya Christmas time!
Sarge Abernathy - [Sarge Abernathy]
Barre, Vermont, 50 States, 3 Territories, 2 Commonwealths, and one District in the USA!
Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:15:38 AM
IP: 205.188.208.9

Josh -- Ooo! The LotR extended set RULES!!! I think you will like it *^_^*

MC
>^,,^<
Thursday, November 28, 2002 09:53:30 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Hi Silverbolt,

Next ep of GNL will be out in a few weeks. We are getting the last few scenes in, then need to edit and format. We are on a 4 to 6 week schedule, and hope to make our deadlines with some grace. In the meanwhile, Summer Jackel has added some art to ep one *^_^* Yay!!!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!!!

just a quickie, I'm already cooking and stuff. eep!

Mooncat
MC
Thursday, November 28, 2002 09:51:33 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

Josh> <<Screw you! I love cats.>> Yeah well I don't! No disrespect to people who do but I'm one of these people who just don't like cats!

Oh yeah Happy Thanksgiving to you Americans.

Mooncat, does this mean that another chapter of NL will be appearing soon? *Big curious wolf eyes look at Mooncat hopefully*
Silverbolt
Thursday, November 28, 2002 04:24:34 AM
IP: 212.50.183.100

Back to the dentist's today to have a mold made so I can get a mouth guard. Won't be ready until winter break, though, so in the meantime my jaw is just going to keep getting worse. Oh well.

Had lunch with my mom, and of course saw people I know from high school. I can't eat ANYWHERE in Encino without seeing someone I went to high school with. Wish that didn't happen.

Scored two toys today: Lord of the Rings special cracked-out 4 DVD's of Tolkien-y goodness. We'll be watching it tomorrow. I also got The String Quartet tribute to NIN. I can't wait to listen to it.

And to brag: I got a 99/100 on my steel design midterm and 18.5/20 on my structural analysis midterm. WOOT! A's this semester, that's for sure!

Spacebabie: <<Mom found Silky dead in the pool>>: I'm sorry. <<She was blind, deaf and incontenat. She had cancer in her mouth and nose>>: It may be best then. I'd be begging to die at that stage. <<They blew up the Watcher�s Council!>>: !@#$ I missed that. <<You were about to put your foot in your mouth>>: Bet that doesn't taste too good. <>: That would taste even worse. <>: You don't look anything like any drawing I've seen of Aiden. <<What?>>: Woo vs. Woot. <<I�m almost done>>: Bitter. I'm just three pages in. I'll get back on it on Friday I think. <<Watch it buster, we don�t get earthquakes here>>: No, just hurricanes. And southerners. <<You could have been woken up and told tat one of your pets was dead>>: Yes, that would be worse.

Silverbolt: <<Cat's can, but dogs can't>>: Screw you! I love cats.

The Gatekeeper: <<You might want to get your facts straight before you rant>>: Bah! Never stopped me before. <<Caltrans maintenance forces only take care of small repairs>>: No, I think its a bit bigger scale than that. Potholes are small repairs. Lane additions for 5 miles of interstate...that's large scale. <<If you want to point fingers at delays, look to the environmentalists>>: Don't worry, I do ;-) <<Go ahead and flame me if you want>>: Why would I do that?

Godiva: <>: Um, you live in LA. What's the problem? <<Aren't they all>>: They're not all that bad. <<Then you're not in right part of L.A>>: I wholeheartedly disagree. <<Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge>>: God !@#$ing hippie legends! <<Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together>>: Excuse me while I stick a finger down my throat...

Impfac: <<Back from the crazy hospital>>: Mazel tov! But are you still crazy? ;-) <<We�re not healthy, normal people>>: Please don't tell me you paid someone to tell you that. I sure didn't need a shrink to tell ME that I'm not normal. <<Maybe it�s the fact I never dealt with my brothers death>>: I think its because your father never molested you. Yes, I am making light of this. But Jack Handey says laughter is the best medicine.

Kathy: <<You've joined the ranks of those who have support groups>>: Oh, lucky me! Oh well, I'm joining any support groups. I don't need support. What I need is health insurance ;-)

Gside: <<Sorry about that, but still, the principle of the thing>>: True. Orgies are definitely a good thing. <<Drugs?>>: Ever seen the back of a $20...on WEED? ;-) <<Ook>>: No ook. <<Not bad for starting over 1/3 down>>: Good job. <<But it's not that tasty>>: Do it anyway. <<You're directing network traffic>>: When she's not making pumpkin pie.

Ravenes: <<if anyone cares>>: We don't...but your spelling is improving! Down to one error!

Warpmind: Welcome back. <<I'm wandering the local streets, the climate is tundra-like, and Lynati keeps appearing around the corner>>: You still want to hook up with her and she's leaving you out in the cold.

Fire Storm: <<she is not pregnant>>: You as a dad is just TOO scary! <<she has to do a TGS CR Info Update>>: Priorities, woman!

Good night all. Have a happy thanksgiving.

57. Before employing any captured artifacts or machinery, I will carefully read the owner's manual.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Encino, CA, US of A
Thursday, November 28, 2002 02:55:12 AM
IP: 67.117.14.6

Hey all.

LM is all right. She got very weak with vertigo at work Tuesday night and collapsed.
Here�s what happened: She got up to get a Blind Swatch book (We work at a blind reseller), and when she got to the book shelves, the world began to spin and she felt REALLY weak. (About here, her memory about this starts to get fuzzy.) She got dizzier and her temperature shot up. Somehow, she managed to make it back to her seat, and it just went downhill from there. Her manager saw her and called me, and a few minutes later, she didn�t want to risk even having someone drive her home and the manager called 911.
SO, she was taken to the hospital, the poked and prodded her, tested her, etc.
Way too long later, I arrived at the hospital (an hour and a half after the first call. Took that long to have someone drive the car here. Took me not very long to speed to the hospital), I had to wait about 15-20 minutes until I could see her. She was lying there, exhausted and barely unable to move. A few more hours later, I was able to take her home. Then I had to go to work.
She slept from the time I brought her home until a few hours after I got home from work� and she is still tired.

She is ok, just VERY weak (READ: exhausted) and needs rest (READ: REALLY needs to stop trying to do things on her own, like, oh, walking! The 10 feet from her computer chair to her bed is too far for her to walk unaided). This is the second time this has happened in the past two weeks.

And no, she is not pregnant. The doctor said it was most likely a virus or an inner ear thing.

But, that's not the interesting thing.
She had the car Tuesday night, and when she collapsed, her first thought wasn't "I should sit and relax" or "Boy, I need to slow down."
No. When someone offered to drive her home, her thoughts and words were: "But how will FS get the car so he can get to work in the morning?�

Frankly, I didn't care about the car at that point (Other than wanting the car so I can speed to her at the hospital).

So I am TRYING to get her to take it easy today, with a fair amount of success.

...

But, right now, she is now sitting next to me saying she has to do a TGS CR Info Update!
(And I�ll be d4%^3d if I will let her do that! Luckily, she isn�t able to put up much of a fight, so she must REALLY be sick. Usually, once she has her mind set on something, NOTHING will stop her!)

...

You know, I just realized something: When I read my post to LM before posting it, my posts are usually a LOT longer than I had originally intended them to be.

Needless to say, we are NOT going anywhere for Thanksgiving. So I will end up cooking dinner... not that I wasn�t planning to cookanyway.
Fire Storm
Thursday, November 28, 2002 02:40:54 AM
IP: 66.72.186.61

*Warpmind appears, looking dazed, confused and slightly frustrated.*
Well, I'm back, though, who knows for how long... Been lurking here the past weeks; just never really had something to say (or the time to post, for that matter), even when Spacebabie claimed ot have had me for lunch. };)

Aaanyway. been having weird dreams lately... if ANYONE can explain why, in my dreams, I'm wandering the local streets, the climate is tundra-like, and Lynati keeps appearing around the corner, I'd appreciate an explanation... Waking up with the thought "What the heck was THAT all about?" hammering at the front of my skull isn't my idea of a good morning. Well, admittedly... waking up before ten or eleven isn't really my idea of a good morning...

Anyway, gotta prep myself for work, and my gaming group tonight. Later, folks...
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmindATtiscaliDOTno]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, November 28, 2002 02:04:58 AM
IP: 213.142.69.109

Ya I'm back! :) But i'll be gone Friday to Saterday, if anyone cares. (Don't answer that.)
Ravenes
Thursday, November 28, 2002 01:18:37 AM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Fire Storm> <<Orgy was a letdown>>: Sorry about that, but still, the principle of the thing.
<<IT ISN'T?>>: Necessarially.
<<wish I knew what the frell I did to make it so damn good>>: Drugs?
<<Nothing will get done!>>: Depends on which they you mean.
Best wishes for Lady Mystic.

Imzadi> <<Ooh ooh AAH AAH!>>: Ook.
<<What'd you lose?>>: No games, but it was mosly old. A couple fractal generating functions, a couple pictures, and cheat notes to old classes.
<<Where are you?>>: On the good arm. Currently about 13 points ahead of the max possible, not counting extra credit. Not bad for starting over 1/3 down.
<<Swallow it all, bitch>>: But it's not that tasty.
<<Two does not constitute an orgy>>: That was a happy place, not an orgy.

Spacebabie> My condolences about Silky.

Godiva> <<Tell her I routing for her>>: You're directing network traffic?

Spacebabie> <<What?>>: I never notice train wistles ending with a consonant.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, November 28, 2002 12:51:28 AM
IP: 68.38.240.227

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERONE!
er, for those who live in the U.S. anyway
Mecord
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 11:33:35 PM
IP: 12.255.11.48

This has been an absolutely s#^!!y month for pets.

One of our cats was almost at deaths door this month. Turns out she had chronic asthma. It can never cured so now whe have to give her a couple puffs of asthma meds each day for the rest of her life. :(

Spacebabie:> ::puts his arm around spacebabie's back and pats her gently:: I'm sorry to hear about your dog. She sounds like she had a full life. Cocker Spaniels usually are verry friendly. My family once had a cocker spaniel puppy when I was 7. He was alwayd friendly to everyone and all the neighbors would say "hi" to him. But as he grew he developed a hip disorder that made it painful for him to walk. We had him less than a year before we had to have him put to sleep. :,(. But at least we had fun wit him for the short time he was with us.

Godiva: *sniffles* That's so sad. It also hits a little close to home for me, especially the part about being attacked by a dog. It always pisses me off when people let their dogs run loose.

About a year after we lost our puppy, Our 2yr old Siamese/Persain was lost to us. We had just moved from California to South Carolina where my dad had been assigned to Shaw A.F.B. One day we let her out and she never came back. The neighbor cat the she was "buddies" with came over acting funny but we didn't think anything of it at the time. For two days my parents took turnd driving around the neighborhood looking for her. The third day my parents decided to look in the woods behind our house. They found her. There wer teeth marks on he belly and her neck had been broken. When my parents told the vet what they discovered, he said it was most likely a dog because many people in the area let their dogs run loose. We had no idea that this could happen, especially in such a new neighborhood. Fu&@KIN REDNECKS!!!! She was our "lap kitty", the one who would cuddle. And all because some piece of "white trash" was too lazy to take care of their own animals!!!!

I think I'll stop here.

If you haven't checked it out already, click my name to see a cute interactive cat flash movie.

Leo - [<-click]
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 07:03:28 PM
IP: 68.96.8.12

SPACEBABIE - I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your pet, too.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 06:13:11 PM
IP: 67.28.93.237

SPACEBABIE <<Uh do you have a relative named Andy in the Orlando area? I was listening to O-rock and they mentioned a Andy Sobotka had just won tickets to the O-rock mystery show number five.>>

Andy Sobotka? <scratches head> According to my mother, there is an ANDREA Sobotka in our family, but she's not sure if she goes by Andy, or is even in Orlando. Was the winner a male or female?

Last I heard most of my blood kin was around Missouri and NY State... but this was researched years ago.

Sorry to hear about your loss, Babie. I was pretty much the same way when I lost my dog Jonathan... damn mutt was one of a kind, literally (Bassette/Sheltie/Chow mix), and he had to be put down because of lupine cancer... miss that dog. <offers hug> Hope the pain eases some for you, though I know it never truly goes away...

Also, whoever posted that bit about the Bifrost Bridge... very nice!

Going to watch Spirit on DVD, then maybe Ice Age later. Take care all, and have a happy Thanksgiving!

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [ssobotka33616@yahoo.com]
Tampa Bay, FL, USA
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 06:11:56 PM
IP: 65.35.132.55

a tiny question do i have. does anyone know when the next gargoyles contest is? either a Reunion II or any others?

Sinuhe
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 05:10:12 PM
IP: 195.175.116.192

Just so we're clear, I'm trying out pink as my color, not trying to trick ya' ~_^
Impfac
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 04:35:37 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

Okay, here is a real post. I�ll put up the amusing highlights of my hospital stay later, but for now, replies and apologies. If you REALLY hate the way I�ve been acting (I sure do) please read what I�ve written here...

******

Mooncat> The story you seek is at http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/archive/author1.html It is named Tears of the Demon. I read it a long time ago. I only provide this link with the understanding you provide feedback-the author deserves it. It�s rough around the edges, but not unworthy.

Gabe & Kathy <The problem happens when he persists in his glorification of suicide>

Okay, I�ll stop... there was a reason though...

*hopefully impfacs last post about his suicidal tendency*

At one of the groups I attended at the hospital, we were asked to present topics we wanted to talk about. Suicide was brought up. �Yeah,� said one woman in her 20's, �But you can�t romanticize it so it�s no fun.� Most people nodded. Someone mentioned how deeply they admired their friends that had done it. She was heartsick that she had been denied her chance to die. Another wished she wasn�t obsessed with thoughts of suicide.

The majority in that room were sick just like me. We�re not healthy, normal people. Sorry for being mentally ill =P

I look back in shame at the things I�ve said in the last month while my depression had a stranglehold on me... it was all I talked about-a reflection of how I felt. The three weeks before I checked in-when the worst of my flames came out-were the most utterly depressed I�ve been in my entire life. I�m ashamed of what I said, and I�m sorry. I�m still amazed that was me.

Depression isn�t just a state of mind, not when it gets out of hand-it just takes over. People that knew me before see it too. I used to be passionate about many things, but no more. I�m just not me, and haven�t been for years....

Raven> <Help him!> That isn�t there job and I didn�t ask for help. I have to help myself. Thank you though.

Lila <It's reaction to repetitive false alarms.> *shrugs* <I find the joyous manner in which you claim to be assailed by such serious problems to be offensive, and indeed mocking those who are seriously depressed and struggle daily to cope and actually get help for this problem> Right.... I�ve been in a half dozen mental institutions now, three for any long period of time. A good number of those people are pretty enthusiastic about harming themselves, and nothing else. See above |^| |^| |^|

<Maybe Impfac will get his head straight this time. I mean that. Clearly he needs professional help and he was pretty well disinclined to get it himself.>

I want to get back to actually caring if I live or die. I�m working on it. It�s day by day. Something is wrong...

My father, the psychiatrist (isn�t that fitting?) thinks I maybe schizophrenic. That actually scares me-he might be right. I�ve felt confident in my view of myself-but if he�s right, and I�m insane, I would never know it. And it�s starting to ring true-and there is so much that *no one* knows about me. I�m genuinly afraid. I maybe in and out of mental institutions for the rest of my life...

But, there is a positive note: I�m full of rage. Depression is anger turned inward-now I�ve been there so long, I�m getting angry with the depression. I want to kick its ass and $#$# on it�s heaping body. I�m really pissed-at my behavior, my mood, my driving, the things I�ve posted here-everything. I�ve basically been making war on everything good in my life for two years, and this has been the result, a room full of bad feeling.

I�m going to find why I�m so rage filled and hurt, and I�m going to confront it. Maybe it�s the fact I never dealt with my brothers death... I�m going to explore...

*rolls up sleeves*

�Dead or alive, you�re coming with me�

I hope you can forgive the things I�ve done... I won�t go so far as to blame my depression-that would be pretty cheap-but I do know I�m no longer myself. My wish to die comes from losing all the joy in my life and stumbling through as what I�ve become-they guy you all hate.

Impfac
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 04:34:59 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

Sorry about the second post of the day, but I have a post that is getting longer and longer, not too mention I did have a strange dream.

Thanks for the condolences everyone. My dad told me an interesting story. When I was only two months old a family friend of my grandparents died. Since my parents couldn�t find a sitter they brought me to the funeral. The husband of the deceased saw me and told my parents they were glad they brought me. He said �Seeing that baby reminds me life goes on. My wife would not want to see me spend the rest of my life being depressed.�
He was right, dad is right. It cheered me up a bit.

Christine>>> You might get a kick out of this: I had a strange dream last night. Jericho was put on trial. A lot of your characters were there. The clan was just part of an audience and Inge and Halverson were part of the large team of balifs, The judge, prosecutor , defense attorney and the jury were my characters (I guess to give him a fair trial?)
Cazador: �How do you plead?�
Jerico: �Guilty and proud of it.�
Kitty whispering to him: �You don�t say that�

*************************SPOILERS*************************************
Boston Public>>>Harper can�t go to jail. That would mean Goober would be in charge. I feel really bad for that new teacher. Aw jeez its �Smell this shoe� lady again. I hope her daughter graduates this year so she could butt out. I loved Joey Mac�s impersonation of Harvey,

Buffy>>>I had a strange feeling that it might have been the First Evil again. He likes to abuse freshly resouled vamps. What is up with the principle? Liked the good cop, bad cop thing that went on between Xander and Anya. They blew up the Watcher�s Council!!! That means that the only watcher left, or ex watcher is Wesley!
*****************************SPOILERS END*****************************
Bud Claire<<<... feel... crappy... Argh.>>>Awww. HUG!

Firestorm<<<Uh, what was I saying?>>>You were about to put your foot in your mouth, but I put someone or something else�s foot in there instead.<<<LM's work just called because she nearly collapsed and they called 911... >>>Oh God, I hope she feels better soon.

Stephen<<<BUCS SLAP THE CHEESE OUT OF THE PACKERS!>>Go Tampa Bay! Uh do you have a relative named Andy in the Orlando area? I was listening to O-rock and they mentioned a Andy Sobotka had just won tickets to the O-rock mystery show number five.

Leo<<<Didn't you once describe yourself as "Aiden Ferguson trapped in Birdie Yale's Body"?>>>Uh no. I said I was a taller more curvy version of Aiden.<<<Working on another juicy fic.? >>>I was thinking of hot men.

Niahmgold<<<Help me. I'm in NH.>>>I wish I could pull you down here.

Gside<<<The whistles always seemed to have open ended vowels.>>>What?<<<Man. >>>NEENER!

Josh<<<Too bad I have to start my research paper tomorrow.>>>Heh I�m almost done.<<>>Yeah you can stick them down your pants�..pocket.<<<Don't worry, no one's getting any in here.>>>Or Hentai tentacles?<<<Yeah but Florida sucks.>>>Watch it buster, we don�t get earthquakes here.<<<Was she cute?>>>Well she�s pretty.<<>>I�m using them as examples as those who don�t take responsibility for their actions. <<<Woke up at a REALLY ungodly hour (730) for a dentist appointment this morning.>>>It could have been worse. You could have been woken up and told tat one of your pets was dead.<<<I was really clever and scheduled it a month in advance so I wouldn't have to wake up early, then my dad informs me that the dental coverage expires at the end of the month and it'd be a great favor (i.e. save $$$) if I could get the appointment in this week.>>>It would have been very clever if you scheduled it last month.

Silverbolt<<<Cat's can, but dogs can't! >>>Um I have both dogs and Cats. Silky was the protector of the cats before she went blind, and Velvet, a cat loves the dogs.<<<Spacie I know the feeling of loosing a dog... but not like that *Cries for you>>>Thank you.:::Cries with him:::

2. �The Glory is not in never failing, but in rising every time you fall.� ~Chinese Proverb
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 03:16:04 PM
IP: 64.159.110.172

Patrick, Gatekeeper: You are, of course, correct. Now that I think about it, it certainly does make more sense than what I was suggesting...thanks for informing me.
Josh
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 02:56:16 PM
IP: 67.117.14.197

I sure do hope that there isn't a limit to the number of times that you can post here, because if there is, I think I've exceeded it.

Kathy-<<You don't live anywhere near Montclair Plaza, do you? Just curious. I lived in the townhouse apartments across the street>> Was the complex called Plaza Villa?? If so, then that's where we live, though now it's called Cambridge Park. And before that, it was Pinetree Townhomes, and before that, Monte Vista Apartments. <<It was an interesting experience.>> Email me, I'm sure our experiences are quite similar.

Godiva - [renee_prater]
Montclair, CA
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 02:36:09 PM
IP: 24.52.251.66

I got this from a friend of mine who has experienced the loss of four dogs over his lifetime. He sent it to me when my daughter, Lauren (who was seven at the time), went through an extremely traumatic time in July 2000. She had befriended the cutest little black and white kitten that was part of a litter of kittens that her friend's cat had just had. They had wanted to let her have the kitten, but because of her and her older brother's asthma, my husband and I didn't think it was a good idea at the time. Even though she wasn't able to keep the kitten, she still named him Blackie. One day, while she was outside riding her scooter, she saw a group of kids surrounding a small animal on the ground. As she got closer, she could see that it was a kitten. When she got to the group, that's when she saw it was "her" kitten. She came running home, screaming and crying hysterically. I asked her what was wrong and all she could say was "My kitten, Mommy! My kitten is dead!" I ran outside to see if anything could be done for Blackie, but sadly, his little neck had been broken and he had deep gashes all over his little body. Apparently Blackie had been attacked by a dog. I called the office of where we were living and they sent one of the maintenance guys out to take care of it. Okay, my little girl had been through enough, so you think that the guy could've waited until I got Lauren back in the house, right? Fat chance. He took a shovel, scooped up Blackie, put his body in a CLEAR plastic bag, and tossed the bag in the large trash can. Lauren was mortified, as was I. Anyway, Tom sent this to me after I told him about Lauren's experience. I let her read it. She cried and when I asked why she was crying, she told me that it was because she knew that Blackie had gone over the Rainbow Bridge and that he'd be waiting for her. I cried.

************************************************************

From a Norse Myth:

Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.

When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.

All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.

They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent. His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.

You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together....

Author Unknown

Godiva - [renee_prater@rocketmail.com]
Montclair, CA, US
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 02:27:41 PM
IP: 24.52.251.66

So little joy today...

Spacebabie > ::Hugs:: It's always tough to lose a pet and one you've had so long, well, that's rough.

Josh > You've joined the ranks of those who have support groups. Follow the link.

Impfac > Welcome back. I hope the trip did you some good.

Godiva > You don't live anywhere near Montclair Plaza, do you? Just curious. I lived in the townhouse apartments across the street from them right after I was married a whole lot of years ago. It was an interesting experience.

Gatekeeper > No real reason to be so cranky. Lighten up. I'm pretty sure that most people have the impression that all of the work is done by in house contractors because they all tend to wear DOT hardhats or uniforms when they're on the job. I tend to think that even in Georgia and I know that they farm subcontracts out otherwise there wouldn't be so much transportation related pocket lining.

Tired. Stuff to do. None of it particularly fun.

Have a great holiday everybody.
kathy
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 02:09:46 PM
IP: 66.167.193.204

Back from the crazy hospital :D

Impfac - [impfac@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 01:24:10 PM
IP: 66.66.203.129

***WARNING! RANT AHEAD!!***

I hate where I live. Our water heater blew a fuse, so I called the office of the townhouse complex we live in to tell them. Someone named Vicky tells me that someone from Maintenance will show up soon. (Our Maintenance team is a husband and wife team.) Anyway, the wife shows up two hours after I called saying that her husband is the one that takes care of blown fuses, but that since he wasn't there, she'd come back (she was in the middle of another job, but came by to see if we needed a new water heater) and try to fix it herself. If she wasn't able to do it, she said that her husband would come by around 7:30-8:00 p.m. and take care of it. Well, guess what? Nobody showed up. We've been without hot water since late Sunday night, the last time any of us used the hot water for anything. I swear, this place sucks the mighty big wanker. The way they tout this place, the way they don't take residents complaints seriously (don't get me started on (THAT_)...Ugh! It just makes me want to scream! /takes a deep breath...

RANT OVER

Replies:

Josh-<<really torturous dental session>> Aren't they all? <<hideous contraptions...designed to put the film so far back in your throat that they're actually taking pictures of your sphincter. Gag reflex kicked in>> I feel your pain. I think that that part of the job description--"Must be able to shove contraption made of sharp plastic and bend it in most uncomfortable postion and place in patient's mouth as far back as possible" *shudder* <<Like I said, never heard of them ;-)>> Then you're not in right part of L.A. ;-) <<At least its warm.>> Yeah, the temperature forecast for L.A. tomorrow is 81 degrees, which means that out here in the Inland Empire, it'll be about 91. Thanksgiving is NOT supposed to be that hot! <> Either that or a tsunami. <<Our power went out last night>> We've been lucky so far.

Fire Storm-Hope Lady Mystic is alright. Tell her I routing for her.

Niamhgold-<<What's your favorite pizza?>> Pizza?? Did somebody say pizza? My favorite pizza is Sausage Pepperoni, Mushrooms, Tomatoes with a little extra sauce.

Spacebabie-I'm so sorry to hear about Silky. Like Silverbolt, I, too, know what it's like to lose a doggy. I lost my Gigi about twelve years ago and I still miss her. She was a cockapoo. :�( {{{Spacebabie}}}

Godiva - [renee_prater@rocketmail.com]
Montclair, CA, USA, duh!
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 01:19:42 PM
IP: 24.52.251.66

:: peeks in while eating lunch ::

Spacebabie > :: hugs :: My condolences. It's never easy to lose a pet.

Gatekeeper > I'd thought it didn't sound logical that a state with as large a highway system CA wouldn't operate by contracting out the work. Now that I've had a chance to poke around their web site, though, I see they're set up a lot like Ohio DOT. As for the PE... ask me again first thing in January. I took the exam at the end of October, and NCEES isn't promising the results back to the states until the end of December.

Four more hours until a four day weekend begins...

:: vanishes again into the cubes ::
Patrick Toman
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:47:35 PM
IP: 66.93.14.153

Fire Storm > oh, dear ... best wishes to her, hope she's all right! Keep us posted when you get the chance.

Spacebabie > ::hugs:: Sorry to hear about your dog.

Update > finished the new Guardians fic; should get it posted sometime this weekend. Got to go back and check my timeline and stuff, make sure I don't contradict myself too badly.
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:25:50 PM
IP: 65.239.13.76

I don't generally look in this room. Something just drew me here, and now I know why.

Josh> You might want to get your facts straight before you rant. All highway construction projects in California are done by private contractors on a low bid basis. Caltrans maintenance forces only take care of small repairs.

Some design work is contracted out, namely by the local county authority using measure money for a lot of $$$ and to their best buddies. Look at the 405/55 bridge that is cracking. Funded by Orange County Transportation Authority, designed by a private company, built by a private company, and inspected by a private company. Now those #@$$@ in OCTA want to pay these yahoos to fix their mistakes even though all the contracts state that the private companies are liable for their work.

OK so I did some ranting of my own. I'm the one that has to tell private designers that they can't just duplicate what is out there. Whatever it was, usually some kind of ramp design, was built 50 years ago and has been obsolete for the past 20.

If you want to point fingers at delays, look to the environmentalists. If you have bird or a bat nesting in a bridge you can't do anything until the young ones have flown the coup. (Feb to August) You can't do any kind of excavation during the rainy season that will get one speck of dirt in the storm drain system. (October to April). What does that leave you? Do the math.

Go ahead and flame me if you want. I don't plan to be back anytime soon.

Patrick> Did you ever manage to pass the PE?
The Gatekeeper
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:03:59 PM
IP: 198.31.97.254

NNNNNOOOOOO!!!!! Not a dog! Dogs can't die! Cat's can, but dogs can't!

Spacie I know the feeling of loosing a dog... but not like that *Cries for you*
Silverbolt
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 09:41:38 AM
IP: 212.50.183.100

What @#$%ing awful way to wake up. Mom found Silky dead in the pool.

She was a pure bred cocker spaniel that I had since she was a puppy. She was my 11th birthday present. I know fifteen is old for a dog. very old. She was blind, deaf and incontenat. She had cancer in her mouth and nose.

I knew she wouldn't be around much longer, but for her to die in the pool...........I just can't think.

:::Finds a corner in the room and cries:::
Spacebabie
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 09:31:43 AM
IP: 64.159.110.172

Argh. Woke up at a REALLY ungodly hour (730) for a dentist appointment this morning. I was really clever and scheduled it a month in advance so I wouldn't have to wake up early, then my dad informs me that the dental coverage expires at the end of the month and it'd be a great favor (i.e. save $$$) if I could get the appointment in this week. Needless to say, the only one available was 8AM.

Then I went through a really torturous dental session. Normally they aren't bad, but they decided to do full mouth x-rays (21st b-day present, I suppose), which involve hideous contraptions you'd only find in a dentist's office or a concentration camp, designed to put the film so far back in your throat that they're actually taking pictures of your sphincter. Gag reflex kicked in and I was *not* happy (TM).

Apparently, my gums are puffy because I'm a mouth-breather and I clench my teeth too much which is giving me TMJ (whatever that stands for). I have to go back in and have a mold made so they can give me a mouth guard to prevent me from doing that while I sleep. I also had to go buy an expensive electric toothbrush at their recommendation because it will stimulate my gums more and they won't get so irritated when they STAB ME WITH METAL TOOLS!

I hate the dentist.

I had lunch with my Dad today and saw all the new stuff he got for his factory. Earlier this year he bought his competitor, and then proceeded to buy several assets of another competitor that just closed shop. We walked through the factor and I saw this HUGE new vacuum-forming machine that has its own compressor and refrigerator, each the size of a truck. Very cool. He also hired an engineer and built a machine-shop so that they could start making their own tools. Fun stuff to play with!

Spent the rest of the day working on my cursed steel homework. Took forever, damned 3-part connections. Finally finished, then went through a whole ordeal to scan it in, convert to PDF, and upload to my site to the TA could grade it...and then she told me to just hand it in on monday. Oh well, at least I have extra time to write my paper now.

Godiva: <<do you eat all of the brocolli>>: Yes. <<but maybe Los Angeles>>: Like I said, never heard of them ;-)

Patrick: <<You mean all highway construction in the state is performed by CalTrans with their own forces, and nothing is bid out to private contractors?>>: Pretty much, yeah. They sometimes subcontract to private companies if the job requires something outside their scope. <<that sounds like a recipe for high costs to me>>: It is. <<good thing, too... that's how I stay employed>>: LOL. All the major civil firms out here are national or international firms, like Bechtel and Parsons. <>: Amen! I just don't chat with people who do that, because it would drive me nuts trying to keep up a conversation.

Kathy: <<clams steamed with white wine and butter with good chewy crusted bread>>: Yum!

Niamhgold: <<What's your favorite pizza?>>: BBQ Chicken Pizza, or Pineapple and Onion. <<have to defend the minimalism of Flash by researching other BS modern-art critics>>: Its good that their instilling the minimalism of flash. CUZ FLASH IS EVIL! ;-) <>: Really? I see a lot of those on Flash sites. <<Love Potion No. 9>>: Mmmm...sandra bullock... <<much more often than that>>: Are you two talking about the same thing? <<Sadly, I go to an art school >>: At least you don't go to Berkeley. <<A hairy monkey with manners>>: Ooh ooh AAH AAH! <<a "freaking huge cat" compared to a "giganormous cat"?>>: The first one is smaller. I know because my friend's cat is "freaking huge". That is, it weighs 20 lbs because she feeds it blocks of cheese. Giganormous would be like a mutant cat. <<Methinks that be a category all its own>>: True. <<Even if you saw the big hulking man ready to twist your neck for it?>>: Depends...where is my car? <<Share my legos? NOOOOOOO>>: Sharing is not part of ethics. <<Paul Chen's famous fried noodles>>: ::drool:: <<Because if the public expects ME to be the pregnant one in a relatiionship>>: That is a scary image. <<This is me>>: if you installed Windows on a mac, you'd have all the disadvantages of windows and none of the advantages of the mac! <<Happens to all good people.>>: Fortunately I'm not a good person so it won't happen to me.

Leo: <<Brussels>>: EWW!

Revel: <<it says the French have the most sex, but they are they counting all the touritst who go to France and Pais just to have sex>>: No, just residents.

Lila: <<My city is no longer normal>>: At least its warm. <<it's not riots this time... it's the frickin' weather>>: I think volcano is the only disaster left. Our power went out last night, did yours? <<lox with bagel and shmear>>: Mmmm, yeah. Are you jewish?

Kaioto: <<Actually, the name of the game is Political Machine>>: This was a proposition put to the voters, so there's no excuse. From now on, every time someone bitches about caltrans blocking traffic I'll tell them why. <<they voted to completely repeal the State Income tax and eliminate half the budget>>: I wish our state would do that. I could use 15% of my paycheck back. <<thoughtlessly rude and self-absorbed people are getting on my nerves more and more each day>>: Sorry about that. I was told yesterday by my friend that I am a rude jerk because I don't have a cell phone to let other people bother me, and I don't have call waiting to let people interrupt my calls...sheesh. <<blocking the box>>: I hate it when people do that! <<You are NOT special>>: Well, I am, just no more so than anyone else ;-) <<mandate crucifixion on the first offense for littering>>: And death penalty to jay walkers!

Yggdrasil: <<now when's the next season going to start>>: Seriously. They're so lazy.

Gside: <<My calsulator wiped its memory while I was changing its batteries today>>: What'd you lose? <<And a bit wider>>: That's why I said "similar", and not "proportional". <<one of my classes has a breast curve instead of a bell curve>>: Hehe. Where are you? <<Especially me>>: You have no shot. Less of a shot than I. <<Am I supposed to spit those out, or swallow them?>>: Swallow it all, bitch. <<I'll do it on the Parkway>>: Even worse. <<Yes, but emulated>>: No, the windows is quite real. Its the X86 processor that's emulated ;-) <<Watching a woman get it on with a grocery store quarter driven octopus>>: Two does not constitute an orgy.

Fire Storm: <<no "Yes Mistress">>: That would put me out of control. <<wish I knew what the frell I did>>: Weed. <>: Of course. Just like "good morning" applies for up to 4 hours after waking up. <<Your were born from a woman>>: I meant dealing with them socially. <<mandate that women will have sex with men when ever they want>>: When the men want or when the women want? In any case, that would conflict directly with my plans to have breeding and screwing licenses. <<arn't you a horny little toad>>: "little horny toad" might have been a better way to phrase that, since it emphasizes horny instead of toad ;-) <<LM>>: Hope she's doing better.

56. My Legions of Terror will be trained in basic marksmanship. Any who cannot learn to hit a man-sized target at 10 meters will be used for target practice.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Encino, CA, US of A
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 04:34:15 AM
IP: 67.117.15.37

oh no! :(

thanks for letting us know

i hope shes okay *hugs*
lain
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 01:51:22 AM
IP: 65.93.75.99

Prayers for LM. Hope she is doing okay.

MC
Mooncat
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 01:28:50 AM
IP: 68.102.23.36

MOTHER F$%^!

LM's work just called because she nearly collapsed and they called 911...

More later...

I am waiting for someone to bring the car here so I can go see her...
Fire Storm
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 01:25:56 AM
IP: 66.72.186.61

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr.: <You eat a 20oz Steak as a regular meal????>
Most of it is leftovers. LM usually grabs something else and we split.

Gside: <But you seem like the fun loving sort>
I assure you, seeing people scream in pain like that WILL be fun!
<Sorry, I thought the nudity would be enough. And I forgot about the words>
And there were a lot of them!
<Orgy. It isn't actually right after, but very, very little. 10 strips? and besides, you have naked zebra chicks for most of the mean time.>
Well, hell, works for me!
Orgy was a letdown... Nudity took, what, 30-40 strips?
<Piro's happy place is sad girls in snow, not necessarially everyone else's.>
IT ISN'T?!?

Imzadi: <No, that's Log (TM) from Blamo>
Oh yeah!
<Didn't know you were into New Zealanders>
Eat them up, yum!
<That's "Yes, Please!">
What, no "Yes Mistress"
<You make your own? I must try them!>
Ah, I just follow the recipe on the bag anyway... well, except for that ONE batch... wish I knew what the frell I did to make it so damn good!
<As opposed fake ones? Like what?>
I just can't remember when I actually had breakfast foods for breakfast (And I define Breakfast as the first meal of the day, which is usually a 2pm... or 9pm...but sometimes 5am.
<Among other people, methinks...>
Hmm... maybe if LM is willing...
<No, I don't>
::Evil Grin::
Excellent
<It can lead to pain. The bad kind of pain>
As long as it is the pain of others, it's all good.
<Then no complaining about being poor!>
Oh, I have many other reasons that I can complain about being poor, one of which shall be revealed shortly.
<Most current macs ship with a drive that burns CD's. And zips are available too>
If it has a CD-RW, I don't care about zips.
I use Zips at work, CD-RW at home, and Mainframe has a Zip drive.

Your were born from a woman!
<Hmmm...it seems Americans aren't getting laid enough. DER!>
Gotta do something about that!
When you get in power, mandate that women will have sex with men when ever they want!
Hmm... problem. Nothing will get done! ;)

Niamhgold: <You mean something more devious than orgies?!>
My my, arn't you a horny little toad?
<And for health-conscious hippies--V8 coke. Or, better called Choke^TM ;)>
Ick! The coolest thing about cider coke is the deep woody sound you get when you tap the glass.

REvel: <Yeah it says the French have the most sex, but they are they counting all the touritst who go to France and Pais just to have sex?>
Na, I think it just took natives into account.

Fire Storm
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 01:17:35 AM
IP: 66.72.186.61

My calsulator wiped its memory while I was changing its batteries today. I shall mourn.

Imzadi> <<Very similar to the bell curve...just upside down>>: And a bit wider. You know, one of my classes has a breast curve instead of a bell curve.
<<Among other people, methinks>>: Especially me.
<<You're only supposed to eat the seeds>>: I guess I wasn't being clear enough. The juciy red things are definitly for eating, but inside of them is a seed/pit. Am I supposed to spit those out, or swallow them?
<<Dude, don't do that in here!>>: Don't worry, I'll do it on the Parkway.
<<I've already got windows installed on my mac>>: Yes, but emulated.
<<Drives a nice upgrade cycle, though, doesn't it?>>: Yea verily.

Niamhgold> <<What's your favorite pizza?>>: Salami and cheddar.
<<Oh, much more often than that>>: I am truly honored.
<<my roomie's boyfriend also goes to Rutgers, comp. sci>>: He happen to be taking Principles of Programming Languages (198:314)?
<<Jersey is, surprisingly, not as close to the bottom of the list as once thought>>: Evil laugh.
<<A hairy monkey with manners>>: My parents did try, but unfortunately, the audio/visual leaves a bit to be desired.
<<What about doubling up on the preceding adjectives?>>: Haven't bothered to think about the parsing, but it does have an effect, as does tone of voice when speaking.
<<Ouch, man. I feel your pain. Please tell me the stuffing is at least authentic!>>: The good news is we have a real turkey for the rest of us.
<<An orgy?>>: Watching a woman get it on with a grocery store quarter driven octopus.

Jackal> <<thanks, gside, i'll check that out>>: Eh, it's how I make sure I've got everything in my RPGs.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 01:11:27 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

Check out this cute little interactive cat program
Leo - [<clicky]
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:10:08 AM
IP: 68.96.8.12

Greetings;

Just wanted to stop by and say thank you to the TGS staff for another season well done. Your hard work and dedication are appreciated... now when's the next season going to start :-)

While I'm here I may as well do the latest survey.

Fruit: Banana (The only fruit that is incapable of sexual reproduction)

Veggie: Pea

Meat: Cow, living, dead, any part... it's all good.

Ice Cream Flavour: Cow...I mean Chocolate

Cookie: White Chocolate Macadamia Nut

Seasoning: Capsicum extract (The chemical that causes spice heat)

Breakfast: Uh, that would be lunch...pizza

Candy: Chocolate, European preferably

Soda: Coke, coke, coke and more coke

Java: Tea is the closest I get. Caffeine comes from the above

Mixed Drink: Due to a wonderful case of synestisia I can't drink alcohol

Non-Mixed Drink: See above

Snack: Crackers with extra old cheddar

Well that's it. On another note, any fan of some old school computer games might be interested to know that there is a WIN/Linux compatible version of Star Control two now available for free from http://sc2.sourceforge.net/. Click on the link for more info.

Yggdrasil - [eng050599@hotmail.com]
Ontario, Canada
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:50:28 PM
IP: 24.43.225.56

Lila-<<My city is no longer normal. Branches falling. Big rigs overturned. No, it's not riots this time... it's the frickin' weather. Grr.>> Oooh, tell me about it. About twelve hours ago, the winds really kicked up. It woke me and my husband up. Things were banging around outside and at one point, it sounded like rain or hail on our roof. When my kids left for school this morning it was still blowing. Thank God it stopped.

Godiva - [renee_prater@rocketmail.com]
Montclair, CA, USA
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 05:09:31 PM
IP: 24.52.251.66

Food survey

Fruit: Orange
Veggie: Carrot
Meat: Cow
Ice Cream Flavor: Mint Chocolate Chip :: glances down :: um ...
Cookie: All, preferably involving chocolate
Seasoning: Buffalo sauce
Breakfast Food: French Toast
Cereal: Honey-nut Cheerios (none of this healthy crap)
Candy: Butterfinger or Peanut Buttercup :: glances down again :: erk ...
Soda: Diet Pepsi or Fresca
Java: Don't do coffee
Mixed Drink: Don't do booze
Non Mixed Drink: see above
Snack: Cheeze-Its, Ritz Crackers, Corn Chips

Hm ... I find that somewhat ... disturbing ...

Josh> Re: Exclusive civic works projects.

Actually, the name of the game is Political Machine. By creating non-competitive environments, politicians can link employment of hundreds to thousands of registered voters to their office. This allows politicians to effectively buy out the vote of a Labor Union.

This is the tit-for-tat for of scam that has ruined the public sector in many countries and, combined with coercion and closed-shop practices, has corrupted too many chapters of organized labor beyond all hope of redemption.

We call the effect "Hack-o-rama," here in Taxachusetts.

It is pretty sad that politics reduces something as impressive as a labor union into just another panel of bureaucrats and their lackeys trying to leech free money out of the state. :(

In other Massachusetts news, 45% of voters in this year's state election were so fed up with misuse of their tax dollars that they voted to completely repeal the State Income tax and eliminate half the budget. Hacks and big-spender politicians have fled from "revenue raising" policies in fear that they might have all of their mis-managed, vote-buying, patronage-sponsoring funds stripped away in 2004. The collective sound of Beacon Hill politicians wetting their pants is quite ... satisfying.

I have to agree with Patrick in terms of posting on the Internet. I can understand typographical errors and other screw-ups. I can't understand the allergic reaction people seem to have to their delete and backspace keys. People who type in one continuous stream and don't clean up after the mistakes they can see get on my nerves.

It is sort of like walking through a movie theater isle and not bothering to put a lid on your beverage, spilling Pepsi on your fellow patrons, except that they can't stand up and break your nose.

That whole lack of a threat of enforcement seems to make the Internet a less civil place in some quarters as well. Pretty sad when someone busting the other person's face up could be considered more civil than a society in which violence is completely impossible to utilitze.

Of course, thoughtlessly rude and self-absorbed people are getting on my nerves more and more each day. I'd like to see Boston follow a note from New York and institute monitoring systems at important intersections that record activity for remote enforcement. The big issue at point for me right now is "blocking the box." This is when some moron who want to make a left turn across the oncoming traffic lanes does so, but has no place at the end of the intersection to put his or her car.

So, this fool has not gotten anywhere, but has now blocked the flow of traffic. Not only is this rude and senseless, but it is dangerous. This point was hammered home with me walking back from work on Saturday only to see an emergency response vehicle turn on its siren, lights, and horns ... and got _nowhere_ for a half a minute.

The ERV's traffic lane was completely blocked by idiots who blocked the box with incomplete left-hand turns into backed-up traffic. And, when the lights changed, even MORE selfish little twits just had to pointlessly push their cars up as far into the intersection as possible.

At this point, I got mad, went out into the intersection, and blocked off the vehicles from that half of the intersection in an attempt to let the other obstructing vehicles back up and turn out. With a little luck in the form of the backed-up side of the intersection moving out about 2 card lenghts, we made enough room for the traffic in front of the ERV to let it through.

So, anyway, I want a New York system for intersections: You block the box, you get an automatic fine and points on your license. You get enough points, it is suspended automatically. No cop necessary. Thank you, come again.

Other pet peeves with driving I have in my own state involve people who turn through a red directional arrow and people who refuse to use their turn signal for anything less than a 3-lane switch on the Express Way. Thoughtless endangerment of the rest of the citizenry and careless disregard for the "minor" laws that directly guard against such are just unacceptable.

Maybe new studies are right. All this self-esteem BS just breeds an obnoxious sense of entitlement where people believe they are above laws, customs, and basic respect for others.

So remember, boys and girls, your teachers lie to you. You are NOT special. ^_^

While I'm at it, I think there is a good argument for why we should mandate crucifixion on the first offense for littering. ;-)

I'm not bitter ... no ... really ...
Kaioto - [kaioto@yahoo.com]
Boston, MA, USA
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 05:03:23 PM
IP: 208.204.155.241

Foods:

Fruit: what �is� this thing you call..... Fruit.
Veggie: why is vegetable a word and ain't - ain't? for that matter, why is comfortable a word... i mean do you go and sit at the table of comfort, or the table of vege? why do these words get to be conjoined and ain't can't. oh well....
Meat: CHICKEN!
Ice Cream Flavor: Mint Chocolate Chip ... yes mint kiks ass!
Cookie: if it's a cookie, it's good.
Seasoning: it's not really a seasoning, but TEXAS PETE!!!!
Breakfast Food: bacon, i know, bad for the heart, but it's soo damn good!
Cereal: trix
Candy: butterfinger
Soda: i drink water.... most of the tyme.
Java: NO JAVA!!!
Mixed Drink: crown royal and sprite
Non Mixed Drink: wine, yeah that sounds good... Kendall-Jackson Merlot
Snack: chezz-its

thanks, gside, i'll check that out.

��jacKaL sits and eagerly awaits buffy��
antiterroristostEphEn (JacKaL)
mucho terroristo, Iraq
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 03:37:22 PM
IP: 64.12.96.138

My city is no longer normal. Branches falling. Big rigs overturned. No, it's not riots this time... it's the frickin' weather. Grr.
survey says:
Fruit: Mango, or chocolate dipped strawberries
Veggie: I crave not these abominations... but will put up with spinach when cooked and disguised in an otherwise edible dish.
Meat: Sushi non counting as MEAT per se, then it's all about prime rib or fillet mignon. Rare.
Baked carbo: Chocolate croissant
Ice Cream Flavor: Haagen Daas "Dulche De Leche"
Cookie: silliness. Chocolate chunk double fudge brownies.
Seasoning: soy sauce
Breakfast Food: lox with bagel and shmear (not the other way around, figure portions for self)
Cereal: Old fashioned oat meal, cooked in milk, the long way. Good quality is worth the time and effort
Candy: Disneyland fudge
Soda: any vehicle for caffine
Java: French vanilla roast, black. Or espresso shots.
Mixed Drink: Margaritas, or Pina Colatas.
Non Mixed Drink: Rhistling German wine 1976
Snack: lowfat cottage cheese on toasted whole wheat bread. It's not a conventional delicacy, but D*MN it hits the spot. Or maybe WOW chips...bbq

I'm going to lunch.
-LJ
Lila
Windy City, CA
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 02:59:13 PM
IP: 134.173.121.83

Okay, getting ready to head off here in an hour or so, going to have lunch with freinds before I skip on out of here. Thought I'd just say that and jump on the list band wagon.

Fruit: apples, watermelon, and pineapple
Veggie: corn, potatoes, and grean peas are fine too
Meat: chicken (boring I know)
Baked carbo: deli rye for sandwhiches
Ice Cream Flavor: white chocolate almond
Cookie: peanut butter
Seasoning: fresh ground black pepper corn
Breakfast Food: on ocassion, poached eggs and sausage
Cereal: Trix, or Reeses cereal
Candy: starburst, or Twix peanut butter
Soda: Dr. Pepper or Mountain Dew
Java:Dont drink coffee, have too much soda as is
Mixed Drink: no preference
Non Mixed Drink: not a favorite because again, I have no preference but I seem to be able to drink straight Vodka rather well.
Snack: Popcorn, Pringles or Doritos

Niamgold - Ugh, I know I have a Modernism class and just trying to stay awake is killing me. I get a lot of sketchbook work done in there. ];)

Josh- I'm in Texas it can be like being in Florida and California at the same time. Our transit system is just as messed up here, now they wanted to add more stupid busses that are too slow and run weird routs at a cost to the people in dorms who probably use the buses least of all, because commuters are the ones who park in the boonies, I just walk.

Spacebabie- mistletoe is fine but I perfer not to need an excuse for kissing.

FS - Yeah it says the French have the most sex, but they are they counting all the touritst who go to France and Pais just to have sex?

"Oh well, Plan B. Let's just kill each other."

-Travolta, Face/Off-
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, though that's about to change, tx
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 01:08:52 PM
IP: 129.120.175.30

Foods:

Fruit: Apple slices, grapes
Veggie: Asparagus, Brussels(fresh)
Meat: Beef tenderloin
Baked carbo: Pillsbury Grand Cinamon Rolls
Ice Cream Flavor: Mint Chocolate Chip
Cookie: Chocolate Chip w/M&Ms
Seasoning: it varries
Breakfast Food: Belgain Waffles
Cereal: Cheerios
Candy: Jujifruits
Soda: Vanilla Coke, Root Beer, Gingerale
Java:No coffee
Mixed Drink: Marguritas (sp?)
Non Mixed Drink: Wine ?
Snack: Popcorn, (was Keebler BBQ 'Tato-Skins' until they quit making them)
Leo
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:54:02 AM
IP: 68.96.8.12

:: Niamhgold enters ::

Favorite food poll amended: What's your favorite pizza?
My Favorite Pizza: "Low Maintenance Chicken Parm" - Only cheese being a sprinkle of parmesan, lots of sauce, grilled chicken, mushrooms, and some other green stuff.

I hate writing art theory papers. Can't be a straight-up research paper, nooo. I have to defend the minimalism of Flash by researching other BS modern-art critics. Man, when I use Flash, I am not thinking Mondrian squares! ;)

Tomorrow I get a break. Going to see Treasure Planet, shop for presents for friends. Booked a flight for a winter break vacation. Today--paper and the five other assignments due in THREE WEEKS ;) This includes a repair to a stop-motion cartoon, one Flash intro and lots of storyboards, one movie poster for "Love Potion No. 9", another paper/presentation, and ten mini-essays on the blinkin' civil war ;) Whoo fun!

Replies:

Gside: <Twice in one week. Wooha> Oh, much more often than that. <You haven't used them?> Sadly, I go to an art school ;) <Yeah, it is worse than being in Jersey> BTW, my roomie's boyfriend also goes to Rutgers, comp. sci. She likes it there more than Baltimore, so I'd say that Jersey is, surprisingly, not as close to the bottom of the list as once thought ;) <You are quite welcome> Well, well, well. A hairy monkey with manners ;) <All you really need to know is a cyborg showed up on a magic planet> Bwhahahaha. <A big cat is smaller than a huge cat is much smaller than a giganormous cat> What about doubling up on the preceding adjectives? Like, a "freaking huge cat" compared to a "giganormous cat"? <Are you supposed to eat the seeds or just the stuff around them> The seeds. Juicy goodness. The "meat" of the fruit is bitter. <As shall I, especially when my brother cracks out the tofurkey> Ouch, man. I feel your pain. Please tell me the stuffing is at least authentic! ;) <

Imzadi: <Woke up unnaturally early today (1030!)> Wow. Even I slept later than that! <The guy at RHPS who wears the rainbow cape. And Pomegranites> Same things. That reminds me, we crack open the pomegranite tomorrow. <CHOCOLATE!!!> Methinks that be a category all its own ;) <The truth is that I often proudly accept responsibility for screwing with people> Even if you saw the big hulking man ready to twist your neck for it? <Do you need to be informed of everytime you're supposed to laugh> How else did sitcoms become popular? <They tried to teach me ethics *way* too late. I needed it in elementary school> Yes, but then you may have just exploded. Share my legos? NOOOOOOO! <They should change its name to "inconvenience store".> Oh, yeah. <Shoot them> Who says I didn't? ;) <These are not meals> OK, fine. Moo Goo Gai Pan, side of the greasiest fried rice, a cup of wonton soup, and Paul Chen's famous fried noodles. Follow that up with a large chocolate cannolli from Vacarros ;) <She needs a new iMac anyway> Agreed. <Aren't you going somewhere soon> Yeah. Back to Balteeeeemore ;) <Fine. As long as it isn't pregnancy> Nail on the head. Because if the public expects ME to be the pregnant one in a relatiionship...HAHAHAHA! ;) <Ugh! Why would you want to install windows on a mac!?> Oh, come now. This is me ;) <How is that prepared?> Well. <Your spelling gets EVEN worse when you defend yourself!> It's called the fluster effect. Like stuttering. <Look, people, spending money with big business isn't morally wrong> And it's more fruitful than spending money with small business! ;)

Patrick: <My personal belief has always been that if you can't take spare the time or effort to spell and punctuate correctly, why should I spare the time or effort to figure out what you're attempting to say> Well put. It's not hard to cut and paste text from a text-editing program.

Dark Shadow + Fear = Ravenes

Lain: Agh, I'm sorry. Call the company on their warranty. Happens to all good people.

FS: <In a moment dear, daddy is in his happy place right now> An orgy? <LM would be a WEE bit jealous if I tried to claim them from you> That's ok. But, for your sake, I can make some for LM to give to you ;) <Once *I* get some nanites... may the gods have mercy on this planet> You mean something more devious than orgies?! <Apple Cider Coke! (half a glass of good cider, half Coke. Really good!)> And for health-conscious hippies--V8 coke. Or, better called Choke^TM ;)

I'm back to work
Niamhgold
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:44:55 AM
IP: 12.104.22.6

Food Poll:
Fruit: Papaya with lime juice
Veggie: Spring peas just out of the garden
Meat: Turkey
Baked Good: Pie: any fruit and sweet potato
Meal: clams steamed with white wine and butter with good chewy crusted bread. Chorizo and eggs with refried beans and hot from the grill flour tortillas
Ice Cream Flavor: coffee
Cookie: Pims Orange Filled
Seasoning: depends
Breakfast Food: biscuits and gravy, fried catfish and cheese scrambled eggs.
Cereal:not big on cereal
Candy: semisweet chocolate
Soda: flavored mineral water any citrus type
Java: Decaf Black
Mixed Drink: Lately, Martinis
Non Mixed Drink: single malt scotch, Negra Modelo and Guiness Stout
Snack Food: cheese
kathy
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:08:32 AM
IP: 66.167.193.204

Josh > You mean all highway construction in the state is performed by CalTrans with their own forces, and nothing is bid out to private contractors? Jeez... that sounds like a recipe for high costs to me. Here in Ohio, the state DOT mostly confines its field activities to maintenance and inspection work. By state law, all the large heavy construction projects are publically bid, and the work done by private companies. And most of the time that includes both the design (engineering) phase and the construction phase. And good thing, too... that's how I stay employed.

Spelling > I used to be in charge of the Edits department for TGS, so I'm extremely unsympathetic to the argument of "My spllings gud enuf 4 u 2 no wat i meen, so git of my bak." :P My personal belief has always been that if you can't take spare the time or effort to spell and punctuate correctly, why should I spare the time or effort to figure out what you're attempting to say. And I apply that belief to any form of online written communication, be it comment rooms, chat, or fanfic.

:: checks the clock ::

And now it's time to head off to the Land of Cubes. Two more days to Turkey Day!

:: scoots off ::
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 07:14:19 AM
IP: 67.38.244.228

Josh-{<<brocolli w/cheddar cheese sauce>>: Oh hell yes!} So do you eat all of the brocolli? Or just the stalks or the florets? I can't stand brocolli stalks, give me the florets anyday. {<<My world famous pumpkin pies>>: Never heard of them.} Okay, so maybe not _world_ famous but maybe Los Angeles, La Habra and Montclair famous. {<<Gargoyle movie characters>>: Good calls.} Thanks!

Now, considering that I have to wake my kids up for school in about four hours, I need to get some semblence of sleep. Nighty-night!

Godiva - [renee_prater@rocketmail.com]
Montclair, CA, usa
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 04:37:39 AM
IP: 24.52.251.66

Finally started my research paper. Pumped out almost three pages before I realized that I ought to read the articles I dug up on the subject, so I'll spend tomorrow (today?) doing that.

I called a friend of mine I haven't seen in three years and we had dinner together. Apparently, she's started a clothing line. Weird. She also caught me up on info about the people we graduated with, which was kind of cool. Apparently, our class isn't as full of losers and spoiled kids with no talent as I thought. She was bitching about how some major street is going to be closed for a year while CalTrans fixes it or something...

***WARNING: RANT***

Do you know why CalTrans takes so long? Because they CAN. Because they have no competition for their jobs and therefore NO motivation to speed up or even to improve the quality of their work.

And why is this the case? Because all the tree-hugging moron democrats voted against the proposition that would have allowed civil engineering firms to bid on public projects. And why did they vote against it? Because it would be giving money to big business! Somehow, that's bad.

Look, people, spending money with big business isn't morally wrong. It drives the economy, and it provides you with goods and services that you can actually afford. If only one company provided it, it'd be too expensive. Like MICROSOFT. They're the only provider of a quarter-decent GUI-based OS for intel. So they get to charge HUNDREDS of dollars per copy.

Look, business may do some shitty things. The CEO may be a philandering whore. But who would you rather have blocking your roads: a public company who pads their cost as high as they can because they're the only game in town, takes a year to do the job, and has no motivation to keep up the quality, or a private company that has to work for your dollar, will be done in half the time, and is strongly motivated to keep costs down and quality up so that they can win future bids? Think about it, people.

***END RANT***

The weather here is only sort of warm. At night, though, its windy and warm. Kind of nice.

Ravenes: Okay, I guess you're dark shadow. SO GO AWAY already. You know what's funny? Your spelling gets EVEN worse when you defend yourself! You'd think you'd at least try to make a case for yourself by having decent spelling in the ONE instance in which you're trying to say you have good spelling! <<you think ur spellings perfect? That u never make typos or mastakes?>>: No, I don't. But its a great deal closer to perfect than yours. <>: Don't worry, I went through high school. <<really don't hae any respect or nothing>>: That wasn't even English, ignoring the spelling. <<You would LOOK AT THE PERSONS PERSANELITY BEFORE U GO AT THEM LIKE U R DOING TO ME>>: Okay, fine. Your personality SUCKS. You are annoying, whiny, and worst of all, persistent with both! You like to start arguments and make yourself look like some sort of persecuted victim, when all you'd have to do to remove that is make a few minor changes in TYPING. Geez. <<Can't u just stay out of my way?>>: Sure, if you stop posting here. Otherwise you're as public as anyone else.

Lila: <<Dark Shadow returns?>>: In other words...DER! ;-)

Lain: <<some people are slow on the uptake>>: Like me. There are so many stupid people out there that I assume each one different, when in reality two stupid people could easily be one! <<you just ignore josh>>: I guess it doesn't help that every night I put a big red block of flamey goodness in here, does it? <<whyyyyy is the room so sloooooowwwww todaaayyyyy>>: Because its not YET thanksgiving, which means all us Yanks still have work/school. Except me. And Niamhgold, apparently. <<what the heck does THAT mean and how can i fix it?>>: It means something is wrong with your hard drive and you need to reformat it. Hope you don't have anything valuable on there... <<this computer is less than a year old, how can the HD be about to go belly up on me>>: Quite easily. Its called the bathtub curve. Many hard drives fail early on. My dad's n-billion dollar Dell had an HD failure its first year too. If its less than a year old, you should be able to call the company that made it and have them send you a new one. Check your warranty. <<chewing gum contest>>: My money is on a MacGuyver-esque use of the gum or wrapper, ALA Beverly Hills Cop. <<so i dont like eating dead things that are rotting in my mouth>>: Once they're cooked, they're not rotting any more than any vegetable is. In fact, many vegetables are less cooked/prepared than most meat, so you might even say that YOUR food is the rotting stuff! ;-) <<whos idea was THAT dumb one>>: Very similar to the bell curve...just upside down.

Fire Storm: <<it's big, it's heavy, it's wood>>: No, that's Log (TM) from Blamo. <<Kiwi>>: Didn't know you were into New Zealanders. <<Yes>>: That's "Yes, Please!" <<My chocolate chip cookies>>: You make your own? I must try them! <<ACTUAL breakfast foods>>: As opposed fake ones? Like what? <<used to prevent an alarm from going off>>: So if we're both right, is it a tie? <<LM would be a WEE bit jealous if I tried to claim them from you>>: Among other people, methinks... <<may the gods have mercy on this planet>>: No, I don't. <<what's so bad about the higher incidence of violence>>: It can lead to pain. The bad kind of pain. <>: Then no complaining about being poor! <<as long as I have a Zip or CD-R, I am happy>>: Most current macs ship with a drive that burns CD's. And zips are available too. In firewire for extra non-suck speed! <>: I wasn't evil until I started dealing with the opposite sex. <<Canadian chicks are some of the hottest on the planet!>>: Behind the los angeles chicks. <<sex report>>: Hmmm...it seems Americans aren't getting laid enough. DER!

Hound of Ulster: <<Could someone affiliated with the TGS staff tell me the release dates for the Bad Guys, Pendragon and Gargoyles cycles?>>: No, they can't.

Stephan: <<Between Strawberries & Peaches>>: What an interesting tasting fruit that would be! <<Cuban, Fresh Baked>>: You eat cigars? Sick. <<20oz steak as a regular meal?>>: It might not be "regular". It might be a treat.

Godiva: <<brocolli w/cheddar cheese sauce>>: Oh hell yes! <<My world famous pumpkin pies>>: Never heard of them. <<Gargoyle movie characters>>: Good calls.

DPH: <<if we knew the dates, we might list them>>: I think not, just to add to the suprise/clock-n-dagger thing you guys have over there. <>: If Apple can do it, I can do it.

Daniel Johnson: <<except for lain's. Eeew>>: Amen! !@#$ing hippies! <<Gonna have to remember that one>>: And I don't think I heard that one somewhere else, either.

Gside: <<Are you supposed to eat the seeds or just the stuff around them>>: You're only supposed to eat the seeds. Like peanuts. <<Depends on what you use them for>>: True. <<Eventually, I'll be heading south>>: Dude, don't do that in here! <<To annoy you>>: Tough luck. I've already got windows installed on my mac. Three different Windows versions, I might add. <<you seem like the fun loving sort>>: All the more reason to be worried. <<when my brother cracks out the tofurkey>>: I'm so glad I don't have any hippies in MY family. Some democrats, but no hippies. <<Either something is wrong with it now, or everything's going to wear down and break a good bit later>>: Drives a nice upgrade cycle, though, doesn't it?

55. The deformed mutants and odd-ball psychotics will have their place in my Legions of Terror. However before I send them out on important covert missions that require tact and subtlety, I will first see if there is anyone else equally qualified who would attract less attention.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Encino, CA, US of A
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 03:51:30 AM
IP: 67.118.128.13

Imzadi> <<Pomegranites>>: Are you supposed to eat the seeds or just the stuff around them?
<<ou tell me which is cheaper>>: Depends on what you use them for. Storage or shuttling of small files.
<<So far its just me>>: Eventually, I'll be heading south.
<<Why would you want to install windows on a mac!?>>: To annoy you.
<<How is that prepared?>>: http://www.meilleurduchef.com/cgi/mdc/l/en/recettes/crustaces/homard_grat.html
<<That would be why I asked>>: Well, that... is a secret.
<<Well put!>>: Thank you.

Ravenes> <<What you think ur spellings perfect?>>: The point is no one else cares when they get called on a spelling error, nor are they so prevalent.

Lain> <<um.. duh?>>: I haven't really been paying as much attention to IPs since they moved off alphanumeric to the 32 bit representation.

Fire Storm> <<Once *I* get some nanites... may the gods have mercy on this planet>>: But you seem like the fun loving sort.
<<And what's so bad about the higher incidence of violence?>>: Absolutely nothing.
<<Well, you didn't say there would be orgies>>: Sorry, I thought the nudity would be enough. And I forgot about the words.
<<Blah, blah. Orgy?>>: Orgy. It isn't actually right after, but very, very little. 10 strips? and besides, you have naked zebra chicks for most of the mean time.
<>: As do I.
<<Strange thing about that... she didn't seem sad, and there was no snow>>: Piro's happy place is sad girls in snow, not necessarially everyone else's.

SRS Jr.> <<You eat a 20oz Steak as a regular meal?>>: Yeah, seems a bit small.

Godiva> <<Baked potato w/the Works>>: Potatoes count more as carbos than veggies.

Daniel Johnson> <<Gonna have to remember that one>>: As shall I, especially when my brother cracks out the tofurkey.

Lain> <<eating dead things that are rotting in my mouth>>: So you're limiting yourself to clay and I guess honey was never alive.
<<what sport is this again?>>: Football.
<>: More than me, even if I have a bit of a track on the varieties of names going around.
<<whos idea was THAT dumb one?>>: The hardware's. We just track it. Think about it. Either something is wrong with it now, or everything's going to wear down and break a good bit later.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 01:30:00 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

SCORE ONE FOR THE CONTEST!!!!

fire storm>> <> okey dokey :)

more entries? ;)

daniel j>> <<Well, except for lain's. Eeew. :P>> so i dont like eating dead things that are rotting in my mouth, so what? at least im creative ;)

gside>> <<The Green Bay (cheese) Packers>> if you say so.. what sport is this again? i only vaguely follow baseball..

fire storm>> <<Bathtub curve. It is most likely to fail in it's first year and after 5 years then at any other time>> whos idea was THAT dumb one? :P <<Canadian chicks are some of the hottest on the planet!>> well, of course *preen* ];)
lain
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:10:16 AM
IP: 65.93.72.155

DPH:
<<I'm going to find some reason to keep you around from week to week.>> Feeding me usually works. So naturally, all of these food lists are interesting me. Well, except for lain's. Eeew. :P

Josh:
<<That's not a meal. That's mulch.>> Ooh, funny. Gonna have to remember that one.

Thpfpt! I can't think of anything to say tonight. Brain mushy. Sleep. Alfalfa sprouts and soggy Rice Krispies. Ick! Get it out of my head! Bad!
Daniel Johnson - [daniel@daniel-johnson.org]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Monday, November 25, 2002 10:44:44 PM
IP: 138.89.77.77

Hound of Ulster - <Could someone affiliated with the TGS staff tell me the release dates for the Bad Guys, Pendragon and Gargoyles cycles?> Like Lain said, if we knew the dates, we might list them (depending on how confident we are in the accuracy of those estimated release dates).

Spacebabie - <Have it ready in case summon decided to put up some mistletoe.> sorry, I won't destroy my own holographic mistletoe.

Imzadi - <How unlike it. I'd expect that kind of behavior from IE.> It did. <And no such VM will be written for MY OS!> Interesting. I guess that means you will be keeping tabs of every copy of your OS, not even letting system admin keep a copy at home.

Daniel Johnson - I'm going to find some reason to keep you around from week to week.

**Boston Public SPOILERS*
The ending sucked; they didn't even do interviews of any witnesses and they are going to charge the principal with a crime? WHat kind of police force is that?
**END BOSTON PUBLIC SPOILERS**

Vashodoka - <And I find it somewhat surprising that everyone jumps to the conclusion that Anaya is referring to TGS when she mentions "Season 4 Gargoyles".> I didn't and my comments said that any "Season 4" is unofficial and fan-fiction.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, November 25, 2002 09:11:09 PM
IP: 204.94.193.34

My food poll answers:

Fruit: Peaches and Bananas
Veggie: Baked potato w/the Works (butter, sour cream, chives, bacon bits and shredded cheddar cheese)--talk about orgasmic {honorable mention--brocolli w/cheddar cheese sauce}
Meat: Grilled T-Bone Steak, smothered w/sauteed mushrooms and grilled onions
Baked good: My world famous pumpkin pies, of course
Meal: Lasagna
Ice cream flavor: Coffee, then anything with CHOCOLATE--yummy!
Cookie: Toss up between chewy chocolate chip or peanut butter
Seasoning: Cinnamon
Breakfast food: Omelette w/cheddar cheese, bacon, mushrooms, and green onions; hash browns, english muffin, three buttermilk pancakes, glass of orange juice and a cup of coffee.
Cereal: COCOA PUFFS!!!
Candy: Snickers, followed by Reese's Peanut Butter cups.
Soda: Wild Cherry Pepsi ;-)
Java: Regular with flavored cream or, if I get the chance Cafe Mocha.
Non mixed drink: None.
Mixed drink: Mudslide, Strawberry Daquari
Snack food: Cheetos.

Spacebabie-<<Gargoyle movie characters>> Jonathan Frakes-Xanathos, Sean Connery-Macbeth, Hyena-Angelina Jolie, hmm...that's all I can think of...Oh, oh, Jackal-Brad Pitt.

Godiva - [renee_prater@rocketmail.com]
CA, USA
Monday, November 25, 2002 08:36:43 PM
IP: 24.52.251.66

Greetings all...

Long work week, even though I have Thanksgiving off... thought I'd at least post on the food poll thingy:

Fruit: Between Strawberries & Peaches
Veggie: Carrots
Meat: Indeed.
Baked good: Crusty Bread or Cuban, Fresh Baked.
Meal: Homemade Fried Rice with Cashew Chicken
Ice cream flavor: Any Flavor, but I favor Real Vanilla
Cookie: Peanut Butter
Seasoning: All Spice
Breakfast food: Country Sausage Gravy & Home fries.
Cereal: CHEX.
Candy: Cherry Sours
Soda: The Uncola.
Java: Never touch the stuff on principal, but I have had Iced White Mocha.
Non mixed drink: Bass & Co.
Mixed drink: Three way between Crown Royal & RC, Pina Colada and a PPC (ask me about it latet)
Snack food: Grapes.

FIRESTORM <<A Melborne and a Bloomin' Onion from The Outback>> You eat a 20oz Steak as a regular meal???

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [ssobotka33616@yahoo.com]
Tampa, FL, USA
Monday, November 25, 2002 07:44:19 PM
IP: 65.35.132.55

Fruit: Kiwi (And not because of Supermegatopia!)
Veggie: Asparagus
Meat: Yes
Baked good: Fresh Bread
Meal: A Melbourne and Blooming onion from Outback
Ice cream flavor: Cherry Cordial or White Chocolate Raspberry
Cookie: My chocolate chip cookies
Seasoning: Basil
Breakfast food: Oatmeal if you are talking ACTUAL breakfast foods. Leftovers if not
Cereal: Been too long
Candy: Depends on my mood
Soda: Coke! Duh!
Java: Venti white chocolate raspberry mocha.
Non mixed drink: Nope
Mixed drink: Alcohol free Dachari or Pina Colada
Snack food: Chex mix

Leo: <Prices have dropped in the last three years. Are you going to go ahead with it?>
Most likely. LM had a lot of stuff on that drive that is nearly impossible to get again.

Lain: <if anyone would like to start a contest for guessing the significance of this chewing gum in the opening episode, i will personally award all of the artworks i contribute to the episode to the winner (to be announced with the release of the first ep)>
I say that it will be used to prevent an alarm from going off.

Bathtub curve. It is most likely to fail in it's first year and after 5 years then at any other time

Niamhgold: <and some kama sutra coupons>
LM would be a WEE bit jealous if I tried to claim them from you.
<Hahaha. That's what you think! As soon as I get ahold of some nanites, you men are in for a BIG surprise>
Once *I* get some nanites... may the gods have mercy on this planet.
<Next up--chocolate coke, which will taste even worse>
Yeah... tried it. Not good.
Peppermint Coke?
Apple Cider Coke! (half a glass of good cider, half Coke. Really good!)

Gside: <Yes it is a very good upside to risk higher incidences of negative recessive traits.>
Very good! And what's so bad about the higher incidence of violence?
<The words aren't really important, and soon after them there's an orgy>
Well, you didn't say there would be orgies!
<All you really need to know is a cyborg showed up on a magic planet.>
Blah, blah. Orgy?
<ls -a can see it easily enough>
True, but in Winblows, I just set it up to show those files too
<-Previous Ghastly>
In a moment dear, daddy is in his happy place right now
(Strange thing about that... she didn't seem sad, and there was no snow...)

Imzadi: 
Na, I am gonna go for it after the holidays. Not for the TGS archive, but for the other (non-published) sites she was working on.
<Thank you. Now will you Windows hippies stop bitching about macs not shipping with floppy drives?!>
I will gladly... as long as I have a Zip or CD-R, I am happy.
<Then why do you still use it?>
Too damn lazy to actually install something else.
<You tell me which is cheaper>
The CD-R... I permanently archive stuff, so a CD-RW is a waste of money.
<They tried to teach me ethics *way* too late. I needed it in elementary school>
Hell, for you, I think any time after conception was too late

Well, it's official: Canadian chicks are some of the hottest on the planet! They rank fourth and the most sexual.
Fire Storm - [<--- Hey! Look! Sex stats on CNN!]
Monday, November 25, 2002 06:51:42 PM
IP: 66.72.186.61

ulster>> if we knew them, sure.. but since we dont.. then we cant..
lain
Monday, November 25, 2002 06:34:47 PM
IP: 65.93.74.65

i have a burner.. this computer is less than a year old, how can the HD be about to go belly up on me?

AARRGGGHHH!!!!
lain
Monday, November 25, 2002 06:34:17 PM
IP: 65.93.74.65

Could someone affiliated with the TGS staff tell me the release dates for the Bad Guys, Pendragon and Gargoyles cycles?
Hound of UIster
Monday, November 25, 2002 06:22:55 PM
IP: 67.233.55.244

Lain: Got a CD writer but no software?
Go get Nero!
Fire Storm - [<--- It;'s Nero, Nero, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood!]
Monday, November 25, 2002 06:17:46 PM
IP: 66.72.186.61

Lain:<<"error writing to drive "c">> That possibly means yor hard drive is about to go "tits up" on you. :) I suggest you back up all the files you consider "prescious" and get a new Hard Drive. Do not "shut down" or turn off your computer because it may never come back on again. Use all meda you have available to back things up. (even the memory cards for digital cameras can store documents).
It may not be that serious but I would want to be safe. :)
Leo
Monday, November 25, 2002 06:04:20 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

spacebabie>> <<You are coorect Ravens and darkshadow both have the same IP address>> um.. duh? some people are slow on the uptake.. ;)

ravness>> you should be warned.. this room has.. "issues" with people posting under "other" names and pretending to be "other" people. prepare to have your ass flamed off :P
i suggest that if you continue posting in here.. you just ignore josh. its not worth wasting breath over :P

whyyyyy is the room so sloooooowwwww todaaayyyyy...

and.. my computer is telling me theres an "error writing to drive "c"" what the heck does THAT mean and how can i fix it??> (&*#^$(@%$ computer... *kicks*
lain
Monday, November 25, 2002 05:18:10 PM
IP: 65.93.74.65

;-)
Leo
Monday, November 25, 2002 05:06:25 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

So it is....

Dark Shadow
Friday, November 15, 2002 10:08:36 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

aka IP: 68.10.125.229
Monday, November 25, 2002 05:04:12 PM
IP: 172.143.91.177

Lila You are coorect Ravens and darkshadow both have the same IP address.
Spacebabie
Monday, November 25, 2002 03:56:18 PM
IP: 67.25.52.24

Hmm.
Dark Shadow returns?
Lila
la
Monday, November 25, 2002 03:22:29 PM
IP: 134.173.121.83

Josh> <Where are you comming up with this b.s?> Hu. That's funny. YOUR POSTS! <No, you just can't spell.> I cant to spell! What you think ur spellings perfect? That u never make typos or mastakes? Man! First. I can't see how you find making fun of me HARRASING me funny. I eman obulessly u haven't been harast to much hace u? You should. It'd straighn u out good! And Duh it was just a joke! I got that from someone already. Hey! You really don't hae any respect or nothing. Cuz if u did? You would LOOK AT THE PERSONS PERSANELITY BEFORE U GO AT THEM LIKE U R DOING TO ME! *Shakes head* Can't u just stay out of my way?!

Ravenes
Monday, November 25, 2002 03:01:01 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Jeez I'm tired. Woke up unnaturally early today (1030!) and was walking around most of the day. I've spent the last couple of hours trying (futilely, I might add) to tackle my steel assignment. Hopefully I can finish it before wednesday.

Thanksgiving break is a very cool thing. Too bad I have to start my research paper tomorrow.

Favorite Food List

Fruit: The guy at RHPS who wears the rainbow cape. And Pomegranites.
Veggie: Ronald Reagan. Mashed Potatoes a close second.
Meat: Lobster, then a tie between turkey and scallops.
Baked Good: Mom's Tunnel of Fudge Cake (you know, that sounds a lot dirtier than it used to!). I'm also partial to brownies.
Meal: 5 lb. steamed lobster with drawn butter, preceded by clams oreganato, with a chocolate something for desert.
Ice Cream Flavor: Tie between Rocky Road, Cookie Dough, Fudge Brownie, and Reeses Pieces.
Cookie: Plain chocolate milanos and oreos.
Seasoning: Red Robins' seasoning salt on crack (TM).
Breakfast food: bagels, lox, and smoked salmon.
Cereal: Crispix, Fruit Loops
Candy: CHOCOLATE!!!
Soda: Coca-cola, Jolt if I see it.
Java: .NET sucks! Long live J2EE! Oh, and Mocha Frappio! For my BUNGHOLE!
Non mixed drink: Smirnoff Ice
Mixed Drink: black russian
Snack food: cereal, or cookies.

Lila: <<Welcome home>>: Thank you.

Ravenes: <>: No, you just can't spell. <<You have to take responsability for your actions sometime>>: Where are you coming up with this b.s.? First of all, no I don't. Who's going to prosecute me? The CR police? Your mother? Anyway, who said I don't take responsibility for my actions? The truth is that I often proudly accept responsibility for screwing with people. More often than not I'm the first to admit when I've screwed up. However, I don't see mocking you as an action that I have to "take responsibility" for. Its pretty obvious that I'm doing it and that I'm enjoying it. <<Makeing fun of others cuz of a very domb thing like spelling is NOT smart>>: I fail to see how those things are connected. Why is it not smart? Is that a threat? I'm not doing it to make myself look more intelligent, if that's what you mean. <>: Then what on earth are you doing in this room? <<If that's a joke, Tell me next time please>>: Do you need to be informed of everytime you're supposed to laugh?

Spacebabie: <<the little pocket sized book my brother got me>>: I love those. <<in case summon decided to put up some mistletoe>>: Don't worry, no one's getting any in here. <<So? I�m in Orlando Florida and you�re not>>: Yeah but Florida sucks. <>: Was she cute? <<Tell that to Demona and Castaway>>: I don't think you can respond to a reality-based personal attack with fictional characters.

Bud-Clare: <<I... feel... crappy>>: Sorry to hear that. Feel better. <<that's decidedly missing the point that I was getting at>>: Is that because it answers the question you were so sure had no answer? <<Really? Promise? I'll have to remember that>>: That's why I keep flaming Impfac. It doesn't bother me when people tell me I'm a jerk (see Ravenes). I know I'm a jerk. <<Some of these people think I'm odd because I read books>>: My brother thinks the same thing about me. Of course, he's on the varsity soccer team. <<Are you sure they aren't just too polite to tell you>>: I suppose they could be, in here. But I'd prefer the honesty. IRL, I think I can tell when I'm driving someone nuts. <<Someday it may be possible to reduce emotion to an equation, but... I think that's rather missing the point of having emotions in the first place.>>: I agree. But it does *explain* it, which is also the point of philosophy. <>: Fine. To deal with this, I concede. <<consciousness isn't a big deal to you?>>: I didn't say it wasn't. But even if we aren't alone in the universe, consciousness is (subjectively, I admit!) such a small part of *everything*. As "proof", I offer the countless possibilities of the cosmos that a human mind cannot yet comprehend. I'm not saying it isn't important, just that I don't think its a central part of the universe at large. <<What an enormous ego you've got>>: This has nothing to do with *MY* ego. If you want to talk about *MY* ego, then I can tell you that we've got structural engineering pretty much handled, which I don't think can really be argued with. "The rest" is a reflection of the ego of astrophysics doctorates. The reality, dear sir, is that we have an excellent understanding of our corner of the universe, as far as we'll be able to travel for the foreseeable future. That's close enough to "the rest" for me. <<_this_ is why it's painful to talk to you. That was my point>>: No, your point was that you cannot quantifiably define these terms. But you can. Average is easy to quantifiably define, it just depends on what you're talking about. "bigger" is more than average. If you have trouble explaining average to a blind man, than its safe to say he has no concept of counting or "more" either. <<people often assume that they understand what the other person is saying even when they don't, and it's like pulling teeth trying to make someone understand that they completely misinterpreted what you said.>>: Ah, I see. Well, if I read the book, and the author was my prof, and then I had a TA review it...do you think it would be sufficiently explained for me to judge it stupid? <<So, it's irritating.>>: Sorry.

Fire Storm: <<between $500 and $2000 to do recover the data>>: I hope you're gonna skip it. <<Anyone want to contribute to the fund?>>: No thanks. I don't need the archives that badly. <<A FLOPPY>>: Thank you. Now will you Windows hippies stop bitching about macs not shipping with floppy drives?! <<EXACTLY>>: Then why do you still use it? <<HOw would CD-RW's save cash>>: You don't have to burn a new one every time you back up, der. They're $3 at most, which is 0.3 cents per burn (most are good for 1000 burns). A blank CD-R is no cheaper than 10 cents, or 10 cents per burn. You tell me which is cheaper. <<but just TRY and get an MP3 program to work on it>>: No, that would be silly. <<a benefit that prevents us from being pregnant>>: And lets us pee standing up! <<how I met Geiger when he was 12>>: And you haven't been the same since. <<look at Josh!>>: They tried to teach me ethics *way* too late. I needed it in elementary school.

Leo: <>: Old hard drives scare me. I wouldn't put them in my system. <<the bigger the drive, the more likely it is that will be broken>>: Probably because they access them more often. <>: That's news to me. store.apple.com <<The B-1B, an aircraft made by Boeing, that has engines made by GE, where Josh worked as an intern this past summer?>>: But what does that have to do with Apple, where I'll probably be working next summer?

Lain: <<eeeew, meat?>>: HIPPY! <<apple and cheese and alfalfasprout sandwiches>>: That's not a meal. That's mulch. <<big guns>>: Oddly enough, that double meaning actually works.

Niamhgold: <<I'd have to take the Jag>>: Better get two. <>: So far its just me. <<I'd forgotten just how far away convenience stores can get>>: They should change its name to "inconvenience store". <<screaming babies>>: Shoot them. <<Apples. Hands DOWN>>: HAHA! To quote my roommate: "Suck Apple Justice!" <<Shrimp sauteed with onions, peppers, and artichoke hearts. Or a turkey sandwich. Whatever's easier, and it depends on who's making>>: These are not meals. <<If it's not done in three minutes, screw it!>>: Not a good philosophy for the bedroom. <<Creme Savers>>: ... <<some people just don't make that same assumption>>: Logic? Who needs it? <<It would probably still work better>>: She needs a new iMac anyway. <<an airline voucher>>: Aren't you going somewhere soon. <<As soon as I get ahold of some nanites, you men are in for a BIG surprise>>: Fine. As long as it isn't pregnancy. <<Hairy monkeys are quite sexy>>: Explains your taste in men. <<How else would i beat up Gside's brother?>>: Kicktothenuts.com <<How much was stolen?>>: Sadly, the only schwag we walked away with were some apple frisbees. <<if you could just leave the casing and let me install my PC?">>: Ugh! Why would you want to install windows on a mac!?

Silvadel: <<Lobster Thermador>>: How is that prepared?

Gside: <<Wouldn't you like to know>>: That would be why I asked. <<Sure about that?>>: Quite. <<not through any design inherent in the OS, just your dictate, I'd imagine>>: True. But .NET will be prevented by a design "feature" in my OS 8-) <<Mountain Dew would work better with the quote>>: Whatever. Unhealthy levels of caffeine are unhealthy levels of caffeine. <<Part of what makes an explanation good is finding a way to adapt it so your audiance understands it>>: Well put! <<You haven't used them>>: Maybe she's saving them for a rainy day.

Sleep time!

54. I will not strike a bargain with a demonic being then attempt to double-cross it simply because I feel like being contrary.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Encino, CA, US of A
Monday, November 25, 2002 04:16:35 AM
IP: 67.117.15.63

Imzadi> <<Where?>>: Wouldn't you like to know.
<<Fortunately we don't have any>>: So why would you practice on any?
<<No, that'd be Woo woo>>: Still, my point was more the lack of the ending t.
<<What would you do to help?>>: Anything I could.
<<Please don't enlighten us>>: Sure about that?
<<And no such VM will be written for MY OS>>: But not through any design inherent in the OS, just your dictate, I'd imagine.
<<Behind the flat of Jolt>>: Mountain Dew would work better with the quote.
<<Time?>>: Yeah, it does get to be a bit of a problem, but it's good enough for the scales I prefer dealing with.
<<If typos are okay, I can get away with NEIN>>: Partly my point.

Spacebabie> <<The trains down here go Woot>>: The whistles always seemed to have open ended vowels.
<<Now I know not to warn you>>: Man.

Bud Clare> <<Yes... and that's decidedly missing the point that I was getting at>>: It's still a way of looking at life that's all math and science.
<<Huge, and whatever else you said at the end>>: You weren't listening. Those were not used to define big, just proposed alternates when something gets beyond accepted standards of big. A big cat is smaller than a huge cat is much smaller than a giganormous cat.
<<A big building?>>: People have conceptions of standard building sizes. If you're talking to someone who never heard of a building, you'd fist have to get across the point that it's something that holds people, usually a couple hundred square feet in area, and a couple levels high.
<<_When_ was that your point?>>: That everyone gets into multilayered tangents.
<<Even a very good explanation will not work for everyone>>: Part of what makes an explanation good is finding a way to adapt it so your audiance understands it.

Fire Storm> <>: Yes it is a very good upside to risk higher incidences of negative recessive traits.
<<Ick. Words. Maybe I'll give it a shot later>>: The words aren't really important, and soon after them there's an orgy. All you really need to know is a cyborg showed up on a magic planet.
<<.profile is hidden>>: ls -a can see it easily enough.
<<Sir, this is the last time I will tell you. Either ride on top of the horse or you'll have to leave the mall>>: Daddy, I don't want to ride the octupus any more. It sounds like it hurts. -Previous Ghastly.

Jackal> <<does anyone know how to unlock certain cars in Vice City?>>: Check out gamefaqs.com

Lain> <<whos got cheese?>>: The Green Bay (cheese) Packers.

Niamhgold> <<Niamhgold enters>>: Twice in one week. Wooha.
<<some kama sutra coupons>>: You haven't used them?
<<Help me. I'm in NH>>: Yeah, it is worse than being in Jersey.
<<Good to see I'm liked>>: Always.
<<Woot back>>: Much thanks.
<<trek> And a trek it shall be, if the weather holds>>: We're used to it.
<<Thanks for the kind thoughts>>: You are quite welcome.
<<Aye. Hairy monkeys are quite sexy>>: See, someone agrees with me.
<<Not quite yet>>: You offering?
<<Mmmm. Cheeeeese>>: Even better, good cheese.
<>: Unfortunately, I am no, for I have lost my ar.
<<Hentai warriors fight Mozilla, the lizard with thirty tentacles>>: Only thirty?
<<Are you accusing me of being a ::gasp:: optimist!?>>: Only in some things.
<<How else would i beat up Gside's brother?>>: Excellent.

And an mp3. Inspired by a recent showing of Ghostbusters II, how about Jackie Wilson's Higher and Higher?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Monday, November 25, 2002 01:40:51 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

lain> <uuuh.. theyre gargoyles characters..> That's waht I thought. I just haven't hear of castaway...
Ravenes
Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:20:43 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Hmmm...

Fruit -- None -- I mean apples if it has to be anything

Vegetable -- Brocolli, Creamed Cabbage

Baked Good -- baked swirl bread with sweet cheese that I only found at one restaurant not in my current area.

Meal -- Filet Mingon Steak hollowed out and filled with scallops with bacon around the outside. Lobster Thermador.
Garlic Shrimp over Rice.

Ice Cream -- Vanilla... And on the rare cases where I indulge in such -- in the form of a brownie sundae.

Cookie -- Half chocolate Half other colors or white Huge Cookie from a bakery.

Seasoning -- I dont season normally -- maybe a touch of salt

Breakfast Food -- Scrambled Eggs

Cereal -- Rice Krispies

Candy -- Iced Cubes

Soda -- Mountain Dew

Java -- I dont do coffee

Drink -- I dont do alcohol

Munchie -- Goldfish

silvadel
Sunday, November 24, 2002 10:41:01 PM
IP: 207.207.243.163

** Niamhgold enters **

Saw the James Bond movie. The Aston with the cloaking device rocked, though I'd have to take the Jag (but in some other color ;)).

I envy those of you who have returned home to places of warmer weather. Though it's not terrible here, it's 35, windy, and I had to drive in snow flurries for the first time in a year to get contact lens wash ;) I'd forgotten just how far away convenience stores can get...

Anyways, the flight in was scary as all heck, thanks to harsh winds and screaming babies. But, I am alive, faced with WAAAAY too much homework, but being treated well. Free food, free stuff, free movie. It's all relative. No pun intended ;)

Fruit: Apples. Hands DOWN ;)
Veggie: Brocolli
Meat: Chicken
Baked good: English muffin
Meal: Shrimp sauteed with onions, peppers, and artichoke hearts. Or a turkey sandwich. Whatever's easier, and it depends on who's making ;)
Ice cream flavor: Mint Chocolate Chip
Cookie: Pizelles
Seasoning: Soy
Breakfast food: Instant Oatmeal. If it's not done in three minutes, screw it! ;)
Cereal: Wheaties
Candy: Creme Savers
Soda: Citra
Java: French Vanilla, black
Non mixed drink: I don't
Mixed drink: I don't
Snack food: POPCORN!

Replies:

Lain: Sadly, some people just don't make that same assumption ;) <and now for a bath...> Thanks for reminding me! I should do that here where there's actually a BATHTUB!

Leo: Put it in my roommate's busted iMac. It would probably still work better ;)

FS: <Anyone want to contribute to the fund?> Depends. I have pennies, an airline voucher, and some kama sutra coupons. Hahaha. That's what you think! As soon as I get ahold of some nanites, you men are in for a BIG surprise ;)<What about Cherry coke and Vanilla coke> Cherry coke is a blast. Vanilla coke is absolutely gross. Next up--chocolate coke, which will taste even worse ;)

Spacebabie: <So? I�m in Orlando Florida and you�re not :P> Help me. I'm in NH.

Gside: <Woot.> Good to see I'm liked ;) Woot back. <December (and/or summer) is when we make the trek> And a trek it shall be, if the weather holds! You'll need snowshoes. <then I wish you clear skies and at least warmer days.> Thanks for the kind thoughts. <You better believe it> Aye. Hairy monkeys are quite sexy. <My life is complete> Not quite yet... Mmmm. Cheeeeese. <You have no eye.> I be a pirate! <It also sounds like a large lizzard> Next on adult swim...Hentai warriors fight Mozilla, the lizard with thirty tentacles! <Someone has to be an optimist to counter you> Are you accusing me of being a ::gasp:: optimist!? Whoo, boy... ;)

Imzadi: <God I hate you> Bwhahaha! <You can lift a nine-iron?> Of course. How else would i beat up Gside's brother? <No, mike was sitting next to me, and he didn't look happy> Poor thing. <After our trip to Apple's Elk Grove facility yesterday, we threw stuff in the car and high-tailed it home> How much was stolen? <Its that site where they customize various Apple machines for customers.> "Yeah, sir...if you could just leave the casing and let me install my PC?" ;)

Adios!
Niamhgold
Sunday, November 24, 2002 10:23:25 PM
IP: 12.104.22.64

Chewing Gum? This isn't going to have any to do with Mara's chibis is it? :p
Leo
Sunday, November 24, 2002 09:56:07 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Fruit: russet apples
Veggie: do alfalfa sprouts count?
Meat: eeeew, meat?
Baked good: fresh bread
Meal: apple and cheese and alfalfasprout sandwiches.. mmmm..
Ice cream flavor: kodiak island fudge.
Cookie: tim hortons chocolate chip
Seasoning: cumin.. or hoisin.. or ketchup ;)
Breakfast food: cereal
Cereal: rice krispies, soggy, with very cold milk
Candy: maynards wine gums
Soda: diet stuff, other makes me ill.
Java: never had any
Non mixed drink: hot chocolate
Mixed drink: something overpoweringly fruity (like me! :D)
Snack food: gunjack va.. er.. i mean..

heather>> tell ya what.. ill give you a spoiler for "bad guys"
**************WARNING, BAD GUYS SPOILER!!!!*****************
the first episode.. will involve chewing gum. peppermint chewing gum, to be precise.. MU HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
****************END BAD GUYS SPOILER!!!!!*******************
if anyone would like to start a contest for guessing the significance of this chewing gum in the opening episode, i will personally award all of the artworks i contribute to the episode to the winner (to be announced with the release of the first ep)
go nuts ;)
if youre on the staff, or dating them and you ask them for help, you dont count ;)

raveness>> <<Tell that to Demona and Castaway.> I don't know who they are... If that's a joke, Tell me next time please...>> uuuh.. theyre gargoyles characters.. i guess we figure if you're in the gargoyles comment room, youll be somewhat familliar with them. demonas the big blue badass with the red hair and the oversized guns, and castaway is her arch nemesis..is.. thingy.. with a cheap british accent and bad facial hair. he was supposed to be the new identity of jon canmore, a hunter.

stephen>> <<BUCS SLAP THE CHEESE OUT OF THE PACKERS! WE'RE TOP O' THE LEAGUE at NINE V'S BABEE!!! WHOOHOOOOOOO!!!>> huh? cheese? whos got cheese?? o.O

and now for a bath...
lain
Sunday, November 24, 2002 09:08:46 PM
IP: 65.93.73.167

Scheiss!!!

So much for proofreading before I post. :p

The "connections" was a responce to <<Back to working on the B-1B.>>

Leo
Sunday, November 24, 2002 08:06:32 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Ravens:<> Umm... I'll Josh field that one.
Leo
Sunday, November 24, 2002 08:02:22 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Hard Drives:

I was going through a box of donated hard drives at work - most only in the 1 - 4Gig range and an occasional 8, 10 or 13 - sorting the dead ones from the working ones. I've noticed that the bigger the drive, the more likely it is that will be broken :) I found a 6gig western digital that had something ratteling inside of it. I declared it "dead" without even testing it. I took it home, broke the seals, and a screw fell out from between the plates. (so much for quality control at Western Digital) The only brand from which I never found a defective drive was Maxtor.
________________________________________________________

FS:<<Well, it looks like it will cost me between $500 and $2000 to do recover the data.>>

Prices have dropped in the last three years. Are you going to go ahead with it?

<<LM received your reply.>> OK thanks for letting me know.

Spacebabie:<> Didn't you once describe yourself as "Aiden Ferguson trapped in Birdie Yale's Body"? :p ::quckly ducks under his desk:: <> Working on another juicy fic.?

Josh:<<We got to see the power mac tower being tested and assembled>> I thought Apple had 'retired' the name "power mac" <<We got to see the power mac tower being tested and assembled>> HMM.. Connections time: The B-1B, an aircraft made by Boeing, that has engines made by GE, where Josh worked as an intern this past summer? <> So did I. ;) :0 "OUCH!!!"
Leo
Sunday, November 24, 2002 07:58:09 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Forgive the OT post buuuut... LET THE CANNONS ROAR!!!

BOOM!
BOOM!
BOOM!
BOOM!
BOOM!
BOOM!
BOOM!
BOOM!
BOOM!!!

BUCS SLAP THE CHEESE OUT OF THE PACKERS! WE'RE TOP O' THE LEAGUE at NINE V'S BABEE!!! WHOOHOOOOOOO!!!

<clears throat>

Sorry, I just had to share that... ^_^

Maintain and Check Six!

Stephen R. Sobotka Jr. - [ssobotka33616@yahoo.com]
Tampa Bay, FL, USA
Sunday, November 24, 2002 07:20:32 PM
IP: 65.35.132.55

Spacebabie> <You have to take responsability for your actions sometime.>>>Tell that to Demona and Castaway.> I don't know who they are... If that's a joke, Tell me next time please...
Ravenes
Sunday, November 24, 2002 07:16:21 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

��BtVS spolier type stuff��

Did they just kill giles or sumthing?! I mean wtf?!

��end BtVS spolier type shyt��

hello, how is every1 doing these dayz!?
sorry i haven't been in touch much, i *know* yall miss me! :o)
I promise to be around more from now on.

�random question� does anyone know how to unlock certain cars in Vice City?

anyway, talk to yall soon.
stEphEn (who JacKaL is in real life)
KaBuL, AfghAnistAn
Sunday, November 24, 2002 07:04:01 PM
IP: 64.12.96.138

Hard Drive: Well, it looks like it will cost me between $500 and $2000 to do recover the data.
Anyone want to contribute to the fund?

Leo: <Does the hard drive make a "clicking" sound (about once a second)>
No, thankfully the heads didn't crash.
It is more like an alarm klaxon once every three minutes.

Imzadi: <What, you don't have multiple backups for the extra-important data that is the TGS CR?!>
The burner was in my computer, which was in storage for the past 6 months.
<Or better yet, switch to a platform that doesn't need them.>
Working on it. It needed a FLOPPY to install it. A FLOPPY! Hell, my floppy drive died a few years ago and I haven't had a need to replace it until now.
<Those won't last very long>
Nuclear rounds. They don't NEED to last long!

EXACTLY. Apparently even the weather can affect Windows.
<CD-RW's to save some cash>
How would CD-RW's save cash?
<Do that a girls everywhere will beat a path to your door...>
Now THAT'S funny!
<My main computers will have their own special operating system that will be completely incompatible with standard IBM and Macintosh laptops>
Yeah, but just TRY and get an MP3 program to work on it!
<The only way to learn to drive is to get behind the wheel>
True, but I am trying to find something that can help with navigational ability.
Oh, here is a stupid thing: To get a learners permit (my sister is over 21), she may need to take a driving test.

Coyote: <Due to the recent recalls on the '01 and '02 Ford Focus>
I thought the recall was on the 00 and 01 models.

Revel: <Might I recomend the .12 guage repair method, got a new tv out of it once>
Na. I need SOME way to break in my new plasma cutter!

Godiva: <Thanks for the explanation. Now, if you'll excuse me, gentlemen, I'm going to go take something for this massive headache I have. Too much thinking>
The TGS CR: If we can't keep them entertained, give'em a headache!

Gside: <For all the good it does us. The Y is more about what's not there than what's there>
I see it more as a benefit that prevents us from being pregnant.
<Doesn't really seem much like it. My recent find is Wereworld. Gratuitous nudity.>
Ick. Words. Maybe I'll give it a shot later.
<And it was made by one of your creators. I felt safe in repeating it>
You know, one of these days I will tell you all the story about how I met Geiger when he was 12...

.profile is hidden

Impfac: <1: Any explosion (non-fast food related) >
But not a Meth lab explosion!
<my ethical theory class is total crap>
Anyone that thinks you can TEACH ethics to COLLEGE STUDENTS is seriously wrong. IF you want to teach ethics, you got to catch them young.
When people hit college, they will do the opposite. I mean, look at Josh!

Gunjack: <A general rule of thumb is to try to get a parental advisory on the local news. :P >
Suicide bombing with the explosives INSIDE of you!

Spacebabie: <:::Hands him some freshly killed meat:::>
Yum yum yum! Hmm... Uh, what was I saying?

Mooncat: <drinking Lemon right now, and each sip tastes like Lemon Soap>
I agree. Lemon Pepsi tasted like Lemon Pledge to me.
What about Cherry coke and Vanilla coke?
What's with the DIET colas? Diet sucks!

No $h!7 headlines:
Iraq: U.S. looking for war

Quote of the day:
Sir, this is the last time I will tell you. Either ride on top of the horse or you'll have to leave the mall.
- Store Owner (Ghastly's comic, 11-24-2002)
Fire Storm
Sunday, November 24, 2002 06:34:41 PM
IP: 66.72.183.17

I... feel... crappy... Argh.

Gside> << <<Other people usually stop _before_ they start to go insane>>: Not in here.>>
Gotcha.

<<If you take it to mean how existance gets from one point in time to another, it's practically all physics.>>
Yes... and that's decidedly missing the point that I was getting at.

<< <>: Not quite. Big is a straight up adjective, while greater is comparative.>>
Not "greater"... Huge, and whatever else you said at the end. Totally pointless.

<<But you still must have described the object, and in doing so one usually includes standard expected dimensions.>>
A big building?

<< <>: And that was my other point.>>
_When_ was that your point? :P

Josh> <<However, I don't expect people to put up with it, nor do I complain when they call me on it and yell at me for it.>>
Really? Promise? I'll have to remember that...

<< <>: Amen. Who else looks slick enough, or has that right smirk?>>
He needs contacts, though. Those blue eyes are just wrong...

<< <<would find the idea of complimenting someone on their logic completely ridiculous>>: Well that's lame. So few people can argue intelligently these days (whether or not they themselves are right/wrong).>>
They can't argue intelligently most of the time, so noticing that some else is being intelligent is rather out of the question. Some of these people think I'm odd because I read books.

<< <<you try carrying on a conversation with Josh, and see if it doesn't have a detrimental effect on you>>: Many people have no trouble.>>
Are you sure they aren't just too polite to tell you. ;)

<< <<you believed the philosophy to be crap, whereas science is your life... and you don't think you're at all biased>>: Perhaps, but I don't believe all philosophy is crap. Just much of it.>>
Why the hell didn't you say that in the first place? Would have saved me an awful lot of trouble. :P

<< <<How can "Life is not all math and science" be _mostly_ wrong?>>: Life is all math and science. What our science can currently explain may be limited, but it will explain it all one day. I promise you.>>
I agree. I'm just not impressed. Someday it may be possible to reduce emotion to an equation, but... I think that's rather missing the point of having emotions in the first place. (And I still disagree with your use of "mostly wrong" in that context.)

<< <<That you have a very high tolerance for pain?>>: I resent that statement.>>
Good.

<<Okay I have no idea where this is coming from. We've been able to explain quite a bit with math and science. The big hurdle left is understanding consciousness. But we've pretty much got the rest nailed.>>
And consciousness isn't a big deal to you? (And I refuse to even argue with "we've pretty much got the rest nailed." What an enormous ego you've got.)

<< <<what is average?>>: That's a silly question. It depends on what you're measuring.>>
...and _this_ is why it's painful to talk to you. That was my point.

<<All depends on the reference frame, as I said earlier.>>
_That_ is what I've been getting at all along. No two people have exactly the same frame of reference. Hence, people sometimes (often, even) have trouble communicating, hence sometimes a person _thinks_ that he knows what the other person means when he actually doesn't, therefore it's likely that there is at least _one_ philosophical theory that you believed to be crap, which you might have felt differently about if you had heard it explained another way. This implies nothing about either your intelligence level, or the other person's ability to explain the idea. Even a very good explanation will not work for everyone (and that's not even counting the people who are too dense to understand, no matter how it's explained), because everyone thinks differently. This isn't a problem when a person _knows_ that they don't understand, because you can just explain it to them a different way. Unfortunately, people often assume that they understand what the other person is saying even when they don't, and it's like pulling teeth trying to make someone understand that they completely misinterpreted what you said.

<<So I'm presumptuous. So what?>>
So, it's irritating.

<<In here, most of us were insane long before we "started".>>
I meant insaner, obviously.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Sunday, November 24, 2002 04:48:15 PM
IP: 24.169.113.216

All this talk about soda has made me want to do a favorite food list
Fruit: Peach
Veggie: Carrot sticks
Meat: Shrimp
Baked good: Sugar donuts
Meal: grilled shrimp on angel hair pasta
Ice cream flavor: pistachio
Cookie: Pepperidge Farm Brussels
Seasoning: Teriyaki
Breakfast food: Pancakes
Cereal: Corn Pops
Candy: Caramel
Soda: diet Dr Pepper
Java: Caramel frappucino
Non mixed drink: Zima
Mixed drink: Long island iced tea
Snack food: BBQ Pringles

I�m going to be ending my posts with a positive quote from the little pocket sized book my brother got me.

DPH<<<I'm ready for that. *Points to the sky at a very specific satellite with a very powerfull laser always ready to fire at anybody in the CR.* >>>Have it ready in case summon decided to put up some mistletoe.

Gside<<<Trans Siberian Orchestra. Or maybe Weird Al.>>>not to mention �I farted on Santa�s Lap� by the little Stinkers.<<>>The trains down here go Woot<<<Warn me next time, so I can get down there.>>>Now I know not to warn you :P

Lain<<<no TGS spoilers allowed>>> LOOK AT WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE! The sweet little pacifist has gone �evil�. Lain welcome to the dark side :D

Mara Sama<<<todd jenson is just as bad playing the most lecherous college teacher ever Sayeth Googlism.com>>>and Christine Morgan is a preacher on trial. That thing rocks!

Josh<<<am in Los Angeles, and YOU AREN'T!!! NEENER NEENER NEEEEEEENER!>>>So? I�m in Orlando Florida and you�re not :P<<<For you too, huh?>>>Yup, The classes were fun<<<Any cute chicks?>>>Some are. I swear I have Birdie Yale in my poetry class<<<Amen. Who else looks slick enough, or has that right smirk?>>> No one<<>>I�m really just talking about that one with the gargoyles<<<You either are sarcastic or you're not. >>>Okay<<>>Not if they don�t know I�m the bad guy.<<<How can you tell?>>>I was drooling.

Ravnes<<<You have to take responsability for your actions sometime.>>>Tell that to Demona and Castaway.

1. �Courage is with love, the greatest gift. We are each of us defeated many times-but if we accept defeat with cheerfulness, and learn from it, and try another way-then we will find fulfillment.� Rosanne Ambrose~Brown

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Sunday, November 24, 2002 02:38:13 PM
IP: 67.25.48.138

Josh> <<Are you saying that to by mean>>: Well, not particularly.

Hey! I might ask qustions but i'm not domb! You have to take responsability for your actions sometime. Like what you've done to me./ Doing to me... Makeing fun of others cuz of a very domb thing like spelling is NOT smart!

Ravenes
Sunday, November 24, 2002 12:05:23 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Neener yourself. :-) Welcome home.
Long day.
The end.
Lila
L.A. (so there)
Sunday, November 24, 2002 05:54:16 AM
IP: 134.173.121.83

HAHAHA! I am in Los Angeles, and YOU AREN'T!!! NEENER NEENER NEEEEEEENER! After our trip to Apple's Elk Grove facility yesterday, we threw stuff in the car and high-tailed it home.

The Elk Grove factory was interesting. Its that site where they customize various Apple machines for customers. The standard machines are, of course, made in Taiwan, but faster processors, more hard drives, etc. are put in at facilities like this one. We got to see the power mac tower being tested and assembled, as well as some Xserve RAID machines that will be available early next year.

Trip home was uneventful. I drove the first part (in my roommate's BMW) and didn't hit a single thing!

Today was just some errands and my first time in our model room in months. Back to working on the B-1B.

Gabriel: <<You called him a bunch of stuff that I also find in you, thus I called you on it.>>: I never said I don't have those qualities. However, I don't expect people to put up with it, nor do I complain when they call me on it and yell at me for it.

Kathy: <>: Don't be rediculous. That's what nachos and coke are for!

Spacebabie:<<this Semester just seemed to roll on by>>: For you too, huh? <<going to try to get a photo of everyone from both classes>>: Any cute chicks? <<When Easter season rolls around I�m not �Oh boy Peep Time!� I�m more �Oh boy Cadbury cr�me Egg and Jelly Belly Time!�>>: When Easter season rolls around I say "its Easter?" <>: Amen. Who else looks slick enough, or has that right smirk? <<Gotta love those Gatoraid commercials>>: I find his Navy ads to be more entertaining. <<YES anyone can write them>>: No, but anyone can try ;-) <<Josh�s Train disease is contagious>>: Woot woot! <<but two JTT�s are worse>>: I agree. <<I�ll just wear a pair of shorts and a bikini top>>: I see... <<do or do not there is no try?>>: Exactly. You either are sarcastic or you're not. <<they would think I�m pure and innocent>>: I doubt it. Plus, you're the bad guy. <<In movie theaters large is small>>: Starbucks too. <<Mozilla does sound like a kind of cheese>>: Yes, it does. <<on the other hand I only have 4 classes in this semester. December 3 is my last day of the semester>>: Bitter. I have 8 more classes this semester, and my last final is the 14th. <<appears I was quite horny today>>: How can you tell?

Bud Clare: <<would find the idea of complimenting someone on their logic completely ridiculous>>: Well that's lame. So few people can argue intelligently these days (whether or not they themselves are right/wrong). <<you try carrying on a conversation with Josh, and see if it doesn't have a detrimental effect on you>>: Many people have no trouble. <<I'm not _that_ crazy>>: Okay good. <<Not a mental image I needed>>: Hey you started it! <<it isn't the same _at_all_ as trying to explain some philosophical or religious ideas>>: I'm not sure about that. I've tried to explain philosophical concepts, and they're often so vague that the vocab itself looses them within a few minutes. <<Once you get beyond a certain point, language actually begins to get kind of flaky>>: I think that's true for any complex explanation. <<you believed the philosophy to be crap, whereas science is your life... and you don't think you're at all biased>>: Perhaps, but I don't believe all philosophy is crap. Just much of it. Some math is crap too 8-) <<How can "Life is not all math and science" be _mostly_ wrong?>>: Life is all math and science. What our science can currently explain may be limited, but it will explain it all one day. I promise you. <<Provide a quantifiable definition for the word "big">>: Conventional definition is an order of magnitude larger than the reference size. THAT is definitely quantifiable! <<That you have a very high tolerance for pain?>>: I resent that statement. <<our current levels of math and science are so massively inadequate that I don't really see the point of looking at it that way>>: Okay I have no idea where this is coming from. We've been able to explain quite a bit with math and science. The big hurdle left is understanding consciousness. But we've pretty much got the rest nailed. <>: Okay if you can't use "more" when describing "big", then you can't define it at ALL. <<what is average?>>: That's a silly question. It depends on what you're measuring. A "big" person might be someone larger than you, or it might be someone larger than 5'6". All depends on the reference frame, as I said earlier. <<There is no concrete value of "big">>: So what? That doesn't mean it isn't quantifiable. It is absolutely quantifiable, it requires a context. Which the word requires anyway to use in a sentence. <<if you're having a conversation with someone and you describe something (which the other person has never seen) as big>>: Which is why only a stupid person would say that. You'd say something like "as tall as a bus is long" or "4 stories". I rarely hear someone describe something new to someone as "big", because the next question is always "bigger than what?" <<The original point that I was trying to make was just that Josh was being really presumptuous, which he does all the time, so I don't know why I bothered arguing... I'm such a masochist>>: So I'm presumptuous. So what?

Lynati: <<is it sad that the only reason I remember my state capitals is because of Wakko Warner?>>: Um, no. How else would you know them?

Ravenes: <<Well I don't see that as very nice>>: It wasn't. <<Are you saying that to by mean>>: Well, not particularly.

Hyperion: <>: Who else would they sue? And who else would pass those laws? <<I've just got my hands on a new Sony Clie>>: Ewww why? <>: Mazel tov. <<I'm not sure what that says about me though>>: Says you're insane, like me. <<how far away from him I'm going to keep myself, my pets and really anything else concave>>: Especially the pets. They might fall in. <<Be happy to help you out with that>>: I doubt it. <<punchy>>: ??? <<I'm of the school of that that produced a liquid nitrogen cooling system for a Domain Controller once>>: Well, then you should buy a G4 tower and take on the engineering challenge of making it quieter! <<do I want to get into learning as regurgitating information vs. learning as studying the information presented and drawing conclusions...nah>>: You'll get no argument from me. <<As well as a few guys...which is disturbing, somewhat>>: I feel your pain. <>: You'd know. <>: Somehow I doubt your world travels don't have a few sordid encounters in there. <<Am I missing something here>>: She missed the "in the head" part.

DPH: <<Please ignore Imzadi's incredibly stupid opinion about when Gargoyles or Pendragon will be released>>: Relative to many creatures, its "never" ;-) <<Mozilla decided it wanted to be the dominant web browser without asking my permission and even set itself up to do more things without my permission>>: How unlike it. I'd expect that kind of behavior from IE. <<How copies of that documentation will you keep around>>: One probably. In my safe box. <<What's to keep somebody from bribing those people to lie to you>>: Money and death threats, mostly. <<Does that mean that Java can run on it?>>: Absolutely not. Java apps suck. <<Do you really believe we're that stupid>>: Probably. I know I do. <<I'll let Imzadi pick up the slack in what I'm unwilling to say>>: You mean "go away?" <<they gave away too much information>>: I don't even remember them. <<your posts seem like a chat attempt rather than a post.>>: That's what it is.

Gside: <<Someone has to be an optimist to counter you>>: Perhaps, but they're so much less entertaining. <>: Where? <<Generally an admirable trait>>: All the more reason for me not to possess it. <<Depends on the format of the chocolate and what the hot women are doing, but it generally comes out well>>: I've never had a problem with those two things. <<your newbie answerings aren't ideal to gain admiration of hot chicks>>: Fortunately we don't have any. <>: No, that'd be Woo woo. <<It also sounds like a large lizzard>>: And yet, its NEITHER! ;-) <<Warn me next time, so I can get down there>>: What would you do to help? <<You have no idea>>: Please don't enlighten us. <<of greater quantity/size than found on average, usually within one power of ten>>: That sounds reasonable. <<Is it sad that one of my earliest mp3 acquisitions was the countries song?>>: No way! Same here. << Java can (allegedly) run on anything, as long as someone writes a virtual machine for it>>: And no such VM will be written for MY OS! <<Where's the Cheetos?>>: Behind the flat of Jolt. <<Not in here>>: In here, most of us were insane long before we "started". <<If you take it to mean how existance gets from one point in time to another, it's practically all physics>>: Time? <<Take all instances of the object in question, sum the dimension in question, then divide by the number of instances found>>: No, that's the arithmetic mean 8-) <<It's a homophone, it's excusable>>: If typos are okay, I can get away with NEIN.

Lain: <<cheap shots in the CR are MUCH better>>: More importantly, they're more fun. <<his butt *IS* kinda cute>>: I didn't know you felt that way. Mind going into the center of Toronto and advertising it to all the cute chicks there? <<OBVIOUSLY youre sposed to read ALL the archives before starting to post in here>>: Glad I broke that rule. I'd still be reading 8-) <<THAT wasnt so complicated>>: We got it right this time?!

Mooncat: <<There are players starving in the Gamers Room>>: When I think of Gamers, "starving" is not a word that comes to mind. <<there was a fan fic of Demona/Dominique making friends with a hot dog vendor. Not a romance>>: That was a great fic! I even remember that the vendor's name was Nando.

Patrick: <<Except Josh yelled out "No!" in German instead of saying a number>>: NEIN!

Silvadel: <<Has anyone ever done an analysis of who has hit the top 10 the most times // top 1 the most times?>>: That would be sick, even for us.

Okay, time to write some emails, finish installing OS X on my mom's laptop, and get some sleep. FYI, my KTTN.com account is offline while I'm on vacation. Too much spam to check.

53. If the beautiful princess that I capture says "I'll never marry you! Never, do you hear me, NEVER!!!", I will say "Oh well" and kill her.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Sunday, November 24, 2002 04:26:03 AM
IP: 67.118.128.93

Has anyone ever done an analysis of who has hit the top 10 the most times // top 1 the most times?

I prefer confusion in the top 10 ;)

And scrolling back -- what $80? LoTR extended edition is like $29.99 and ships free from amazon.com.
silvadel
Sunday, November 24, 2002 01:48:31 AM
IP: 208.59.247.9

todd jenson is just as bad playing the most lecherous college teacher ever

Sayeth Googlism.com, anyhow.

Shinigami
Sunday, November 24, 2002 01:40:57 AM
IP: 152.163.189.68

Christine> <<gamers can always be counted on to rid a person of excess soda and snacks!>>: Where's the Cheetos?

Bud Clare> <<Other people usually stop _before_ they start to go insane>>: Not in here.
<<the actual wording of the sentence is either true or false>>: The truth value derived from the sentence is either true or false, the wording of the sentence is the choice of words used. Still, the truth depends on implication of life you are using. If you take it to mean how existance gets from one point in time to another, it's practically all physics.
<>: Not quite. Big is a straight up adjective, while greater is comparative.
<<But what is average?>>: Take all instances of the object in question, sum the dimension in question, then divide by the number of instances found.
<<And how much greater than average does something have to be before it is "big"?>>: Anything.
<<The value of "average" depends on what you are talking about>>: As does the value of big. A big hornet is much smaller than a big tiger.
<<if you're having a conversation with someone and you describe something (which the other person has never seen) as big, then the other person is almost certainly imagining the object in question using a different value for "big" than you were using>>: But you still must have described the object, and in doing so one usually includes standard expected dimensions. E.g. "There I was walking through a field of borogoves, by the way, a borogove is a thin shabby-looking bird with its feathers sticking out all round -- something like a live mop, when I ran up to this big borogove eating a watermellon." Assumably, the other person knows the approximate size of a mop, so a big borogove is as large as a big mop.
<>: And that was my other point.

Patrick> <<Except Josh yelled out "No!" in German instead of saying a number>>: It's a homophone, it's excusable.

Lynati> <<not at all, in my opinion>>: But your opinion was suspect in the beginning.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Sunday, November 24, 2002 01:32:55 AM
IP: 165.230.240.116

Lain: Well Robby has been ignoring me all day for me to even ask about it and maybe HE wasn't the one who wiped the room. *gives him a SERIOUS evil glare*
Heather - [Kheetor84@cox.net]
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Saturday, November 23, 2002 11:44:03 PM
IP: 68.99.148.20

Thanks guys for clearing that up for me. Top 10 hu? Intresting!
Ravenes
Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:21:53 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Gside: <Is it sad that one of my earliest mp3 acquisitions was the countries song?> not at all, in my opinion. I think it was one of my early mp3�s as well.

Mara: No, I think what I need is a short break from the room. The drama is getting to be too much, and I�ve got my final to prepare for.

That being said, I�ll see you around someday, Gunjack.

Lain: *evil smirk* so you�re finally understanding it, are you? Too bad he isn�t.

Lynati Ashochyaan'h
Saturday, November 23, 2002 09:43:25 PM
IP: 65.66.157.147

Yay... a top ten without confusion. Except Josh yelled out "No!" in German instead of saying a number. :P
Patrick Toman
Saturday, November 23, 2002 09:31:50 PM
IP: 67.38.244.228

DRAT! =)

Close -- so very close.
silvadel
Saturday, November 23, 2002 09:30:33 PM
IP: 208.59.247.9

hey now.. THAT wasnt so complicated! :D
lain
Saturday, November 23, 2002 09:21:23 PM
IP: 65.93.73.167

TEN TEN!!!
lain
Saturday, November 23, 2002 09:20:21 PM
IP: 65.93.73.167

NEIN!
Josh
Saturday, November 23, 2002 09:18:26 PM
IP: 67.118.128.179

8th!
Leo
Saturday, November 23, 2002 09:16:08 PM
IP: 68.10.125.229

Number seven it would seem. Haven't done this in a long time.
Daniel Johnson - [daniel@daniel-johnson.org]
Ocean Grove, NJ, USA
Saturday, November 23, 2002 08:59:35 PM
IP: 138.89.77.77

6th!
Bronx
Saturday, November 23, 2002 08:57:33 PM
IP: 64.12.96.138

Top 10, #5!!
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, November 23, 2002 08:55:57 PM
IP: 204.94.193.30

Fourth in the name of Free Mars!
FIre Storm and Lady Mystic
Saturday, November 23, 2002 08:40:02 PM
IP: 66.72.179.130

Third! In the name of all Mutants! Don't know why you guys do this but. Ya.
Ravenes
Saturday, November 23, 2002 08:38:48 PM
IP: 24.86.117.45

Second in the name of the Fay

Mooncat
>^,,^<
Mooncat
Saturday, November 23, 2002 08:34:11 PM
IP: 68.102.23.36

First!
Patrick Toman
Saturday, November 23, 2002 08:32:53 PM
IP: 67.38.244.228