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Lynati- I thank you for the welcome information. I have finished all four seasons of Timedancer in under a week, due to liberal lack of sleep, and can say I enjoyed it but not as much as the original. Will probably start into Pendragon after finals.

As to the other part, I'm afraid I must say no. I've got a fertile imagination, but I prefer building my own playgrounds to using others, no matter how many monkey bars it has.
Oraidhe - [N/A]
N/A, N/A, N/A
Saturday, April 19, 2003 10:38:51 PM
IP: 128.61.59.145

Blinks. Looks at CR, Blinks again.
Wow! The CR seems significantly quieter since my last post a bunch of weeks back.
So, did anyone miss me? (Josh, please don’t answer this :p )
No, I didn’t think so. (I just took away Josh’s fun, hehe)

Been extremely busy w/ school and life in general, I’m sure most of yall’ know all ‘bout that!

I finished the first season of Gargoyles, and am 4 or 5 eps. into Timedacer season 1. I’m still impressed with how well done everything is. As is, I don’t think Timedancer is quite as good as Gargoyles; but, then again, Brooklyn never was my favorite character.

Up until recently, I’ve been a closet Gargoyle fan, but Lain (she’s so sweet, in a sassy kind of way) changed my ways. I’ve showed my mom (I’m 21 and was born when she was 29, you do the math) Awakenings 1 – 3.
Mom. Likes. Gargoyles!!!
Just 66 more episodes to go.
Just don’t expect to see her at a gathering.

The R.P.G. I was in, Gargoyles: Guardians of Edinburgh has fizzled away; sad, sad. So, me and two other friends are going to be starting a new one. Of course it’s going to be Gargoyles based, but the theme is still undecided; we want to get feedback from all the members first before deciding. Why am I telling you this? Because I’d like to welcome everyone here to join in. Those who are worried about not enough time… don’t, the RP won’t start until mid June. Check it out!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RPGSSF/

Happy Easter & God bless.
-Tony

Tony Elliot - [h664e34@hotmail.com]
Milwaukee, WI, The country everyone else hates
Saturday, April 19, 2003 10:21:37 PM
IP: 65.25.168.162

Josh:<<after two days of flat-out demanding that Apple either make me an offer or tell me to go away, they made me an offer. I'll probably be joining the consumer portables team (they make the iBook, among other things)>>Congrats!!! Does that mean you were chosen over your "gyno-anvantaged" (*wink wink*) competition? Or did they make two positions. ;p
Leo
Saturday, April 19, 2003 05:45:33 PM
IP: 68.96.8.12

Three weeks to go. Two full weeks and then finals week, but it is still a long way to go. Two paintings to do and print wprk and also two regular classes to eventually start studying for. I'm sure someone has it worse but it's still a lot to do.

Lain- That sucks, I et the same thing with my extended family. None of them care about anyone else but themselves. My Grandmother called me this week, who I had not seen or talked to since December to ask for her suit case. That was all she called for. Didn't even start off by asking how I was or how was school just her suit case, which I didn't have.

Josh- congrats at filtering through the BS. Hope this job is everything you wanted, would suck to go through this to find out you hate being there.

Spacie- I have this picture in mind of Velvet wanting to go sniff and greet everything that moves in your garden. You're almost free from U Can't Finish, *hugs and kiss*

The Warped One lives!

Bud-Claire- are you concerned that a fail will mess up your GPA or lose a scholarship or something?
<<Not quite the kind of bugs that I meant>> I like the rolly polly pill bugs, those were always fun.

Lynati- So what excatly is expected to run a panel or presentation? I've never done one before.

"Does my nose look crooked? It's not, my face is crooked."

-Hudson, G2002-
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Saturday, April 19, 2003 01:15:37 PM
IP: 129.120.173.67

*ahem* see? im so frustrated, i forgot the red :P
lain
Saturday, April 19, 2003 11:51:21 AM
IP: 65.93.76.148

bud claire>> THESE are the stupid suckers im talking about..
lain
Saturday, April 19, 2003 11:50:39 AM
IP: 65.93.76.148

I am a total screw up. I needed to drop that class by today, but I didn't get it done in time. So, now I'm stuck with it. I'm so dumb. (And I missed a quiz this week, since I thought I was dropping the class. Someone shoot me.)
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Josh> <<Looks like I do get everything after all. I rule.>>
No, you suck. Go away. :P

<<Expel her.>>
That sounds odd... But it's not my decision. She'll be leaving next month, anyway. (Woohoo!)

<<With a bomb.>>
But set to go off _after_ he's had time to eat a bit of the fruit. Waste of fruit, otherwise. ;)

<<And now the ordeal is over, and I plan to sleep like a baby.>>
Or maybe you'll still sleep badly, out of habit.

<< <<It?s called life and the real world>>: That's just it, this has never happened to me before and likely won't again. No other company would ever get away with treating me like this, I just happen to *really* want this job.>>
So, it's not the real world at all... you live in Joshworld.
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Spacebabie> <<Hmm holds out hands on has a butterfly and one has a dragonfly. I like these.>>
Not quite the kind of bugs that I meant...

<<or pour a little ice water on them.>>
Ice water? In Florida? Do you even have any? ;)
***************
lain> <<if you plan on impressing your ukranian step-relatives by carefully hand-dying traditional ukranian easter eggs..>>
*blinks* Can't picture the ones you mean... Oh, no... you didn't try to blow the egg out of the shell, did you? *shudders* Or is there some other horror involved?
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Saturday, April 19, 2003 02:11:43 AM
IP: 66.24.93.77

Okay, I'm back. Its been a VERY long two days, with much background to cover it. Sadly, most of it is under the NDA I haven't signed yet because its an Apple internal process and we're not supposed to discuss it. The gist of it is that there was a communications error between the department interviewing me and HR, offers went out before they were supposed to, etc.

The upside is that after two days of flat-out demanding that Apple either make me an offer or tell me to go away, they made me an offer. I'll probably be joining the consumer portables team (they make the iBook, among other things), but I'm not sure exactly what I'm doing yet. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your outlook), it means that Gathering is probably out for this year. Perhaps I'll grace you all with my presence next year.

When combined with other events of the year, it makes this the best year of my life, and its only 4 months in. I might as well kill myself in December, because it can only go downhill from here.

Lynati: <<ignore josh>>: I can never be ignored.

Attila: <<article>>: He'll probably try to blame this one on the white man too.

Gside: <<You'd like to think so>>: Actually no. If that was easy, I could build one myself.
<<for enough of the gate you would>>: Don't bet on it.

Bud-Clare: <<It'd come in handy>>: Oh, the evil I'd do.
<<You might be getting predictable>>: Have been for years.
<<Useless bint>>: Expel her.
<<Try some alcohol for that>>: Tried that on thursday night. The long island iced tea didn't quite knock me on my ass the way I'd hoped.
<<Send him a nice fruit basket first>>: With a bomb.

Warpmind: <<Try as you might, you're not getting rid of me YET>>: They've been trying for over two years, yet here I am.

Hudson: <>: Don't you think that might be a bit of an extreme generalization?

Niamhgold: <<you _do_ already rule GE>>: All the more reason to conquer another company.

Spacebabie: <<Those are worse than Pity whores>>: Significantly.
<<you must be nervous>>: I was. And now the ordeal is over, and I plan to sleep like a baby.
<<It?s called life and the real world>>: That's just it, this has never happened to me before and likely won't again. No other company would ever get away with treating me like this, I just happen to *really* want this job.
<<You need to be here so I can kick your ass>>: Too bad for you then.
<<Sometimes you display the IQ of one>>: I'm not hurt.

Lain: <<if you plan on impressing your ukranian step-relatives by carefully hand-dying traditional ukranian easter eggs>>: ...then you're friggin insane.

Okay then. I've been up since 815, spent 3 hours of my day in the car, starting to get sick, and have a Disturbed concert tomorrow. If you don't mind, I'm going to go become one with my bed.

175. I will have my fortress exorcized regularly. Although ghosts in the dungeon provide an appropriate atmosphere, they tend to provide valuable information once placated.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Saturday, April 19, 2003 01:36:06 AM
IP: 64.168.31.96

*********WARNING!! FRIENDLY WORD OF EASTER ADVICE************

if you plan on impressing your ukranian step-relatives by carefully hand-dying traditional ukranian easter eggs..
F(@%ING FORGET IT!!

**************END FRIENDLY WORD OF EASTER ADVICE*************
lain
Saturday, April 19, 2003 01:15:55 AM
IP: 65.93.76.148

Lain> <<which is really kinda wrong.. seeing as how im the "gabe" of this relationship, to his "tycho">>: No, you see, the drawing is a red herring. Gunjack is the fun crazy one, you're the one with the rants.

Leo> <<after closing the new window and trying again>>: Huh. I went through a bit of the site and come back, but it still gave me the login thing, but closing worked.

Warpmind> <<freaked out at a paperful of eyes staring at everyone and everything>>: You have Hellsing, right? I'd think you'd be used to numerous eyes. And I just found out today that Hirano Kota, Hellsing's creator, at some point made a Cowboy Bebop H doujinshi.
<<your suggestion regarding my drawing presumes that I have any skills in advance>>: Everyone has a starting place, and I was just suggesting there might be something more natural if manga was too much work.
<<Got your mail>>: And I should be mailing you monday.
<<result in something resembling a Cthulhoid version of the T-74 from Those Who Hunt Elves>>: And this is bad how?
<<Dark, twisted and loaded with more tentacles than any human should be exposed to in a lifetime>>: And your response was "Aw, shucks, thanks," right?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Friday, April 18, 2003 11:23:08 PM
IP: 198.151.130.245

The end is near. Well the end of this semester that is.

I’m still weeding and when I’m done I’m thinking of putting in some wood chips around the pineapple plants, maybe get a few actual plants and put then in there as well. Then sprinkl on the shells from my mother’s sunflower seeds.

While weeding I put Velvet on the harness and brought her out. She stayed close and it looked like she was trying to help because she kept on biting at the weeds and spitting them out.

I made caramel apples last night…and mom bought candies…Hershey treasures, Jelly bellies, robins eggs, Cadbury cream eggs and Peeps.

**********Grr missed Angel again so just Buffy spoilers***************************

Nice to see Joss giving some of his Firefly actors some new roles.

That image of Faith trying to kill Spock was priceless.

The other British Slayer in training got killed.

Xander Got his eye poked out!

I’m a bit surprised at the end. Willow was next to Xander’s bed. Shouldn’t that have been Anya with Willow next to Kennedy’s bed?

I know Willow and Xander are best friends and all but shouldn’t they be with their lovers?
**********************Spoilers end*****************************************

Replies

Lila<<<Weregoyles... arn't they all kinda weregoyles?>>>Uh not sure what you mean. A weregoyle is a creature that is human by day and gargoyle by night.<<<What about the men with sexy accents? >>>Most men with sessy accents are hot.

Oraidhe>>>Hi welcome to the room. Please deposit your sanity into this nice little jar here.

Bud Claire<<<What are those?>>>Cool creatures with wings that tend to get stoned at dawn.<<<Attention whore.>>>Those are worse than Pity whores<<<Because you enjoy giant bugs?>>> Hmm holds out hands on has a butterfly and one has a dragonfly. I like these.<<<Some other people should have covered themselves in blood and pretended to be dead kurds. Subtle revenge is usually the best kind. ;)>>>Or walked over them wearing cleats, or pour a little ice water on them.

Josh<<<If I don't have an answer by midday>>>Tripple D’s you must be nervous<<<Its so frustrating to be dragged along like this.>>>It’s called life and the real world <<<Idiot. I hope you stepped on him.>>>I wished. It was nearly over by the time I got onto campus and after class it was over…They did get eaten by ants though.<<<How does that make her a genius?>>>By counting she calculates how long till something happens, how long something is how much skittles she should get for fifty cents, that sort of thing.<<<It will block gathering, though>>>Nevermind then. You need to be here so I can kick your ass.<<>>What about “I won a Hot Rod?”<<<And the height of one.>>>Sometimes you display the IQ of one.<<>>Yay congrats

Rev Attila>>>Some people want to add a minute or two more of fame to their already achieved fifteen.

Lynati>>>What kind of writing panels?

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Friday, April 18, 2003 06:51:48 PM
IP: 209.244.150.45

Lain: For cheap (not free) webhosting, I strongly recommend axisproductions.com. They host kicktothenuts, supercars.net, and a bunch of other sites. Personal sites are like $10/month for a rediculous amount of space, ftp access, POP setup, and a bunch of other stuff. Great uptime, fast service.

Of course, that could just be because the CEO is my roommate. ;-)
Josh
Friday, April 18, 2003 05:13:27 PM
IP: 17.255.27.111

Turns out I was wrong, I will be getting an internship offer from Apple after all. There were some major snafus that I'll explain in a longer post tonight, but I'll get the offer. Joy.

Looks like I do get everything after all. I rule.
Josh
Friday, April 18, 2003 05:11:06 PM
IP: 17.255.27.111

so.. im wondering about web hosting. as in.. how to get some.
can anyone reccommend some good free places to check out to start with? or even some non-free ones for future reference? and/or some to OH MY GOD STAY AWAY IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE ones?
thanks :)
lain
Friday, April 18, 2003 04:32:46 PM
IP: 65.93.76.148

*Warpmind wanders in, freaked out at a paperful of eyes staring at everyone and everything.*
Hi, gang. My skills are improving already. But not much beyond eyes, I'm afraid... At least I can draw relatively believable eyes now, even if I still need to work on the *rest* of the face, not to mention the body... :P

Gside: Got your mail. And your suggestion regarding my drawing presumes that I have any skills in advance. Alas, my attempts at drawing a, say, cat would result in something resembling a Cthulhoid version of the T-74 from Those Who Hunt Elves... :P

Anyways, as it seems I'll get some driving practice about now, I'll leave with a statement from a member of my regular gaming group... "Your mind is like a Lovecraft novel. Dark, twisted and loaded with more tentacles than any human should be exposed to in a lifetime." }:)

Life is good. };)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmindATtiscaliDOTno]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Friday, April 18, 2003 02:24:12 PM
IP: 193.216.88.148

Josh> <<Well, looks like I didn't get the Apple internship.>>
That sucks. At least you've still got the other one, though.

Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Friday, April 18, 2003 01:42:23 PM
IP: 66.24.93.77

Firestorm:<<This is just funny, if not slight offensive>>Not really, once you know it's an entry into an altered bilboard cantest. This one was just the winner. You should see some of the other entries.

Gside:<<And asking me for a login.>> I got that the few times I clicked the link, then after closing the new window and trying again , I got through. (!?)

Leo - [<-Other entries (scroll down to see)]
Friday, April 18, 2003 06:03:35 AM
IP: 68.96.8.12

dezi>> mmmmmmmm penny arcade... i am addicted also. it is gooooood stuff. i like the cardboard tube best. except for the part where it has inspired val to chase me around with a cardboard tube, forcing me to chant "the tube is civilization! the tube is civilization!!!"...
.. which is really kinda wrong.. seeing as how im the "gabe" of this relationship, to his "tycho"..
lain
Friday, April 18, 2003 01:14:50 AM
IP: 65.93.74.112

This was amusing. The archive has lots more of the same.
My weird friend still in Chicago told me about this place just today. :)
Dezi - [<-clickie for funny cartoon, me gusta!]
Friday, April 18, 2003 12:12:18 AM
IP: 68.58.158.101

Bud Clare> <<Too bad he can't do the mind control>>: You only think that because I let you.
<<It'd come in handy>>: Oh, and it does.

Warpmind> Good, I want to talk to you. Everything you asked for is burnt. Any other requests (One Piece, Nanako, Chobits, some other hentai I should try to find?), and an address or tell me that it's to the same place.
<<teaching myself to draw manga-style>>: It may not be as stylish, but you could always go for just improving your own style.
<<And Be Weird, Well, and whatever you like>>: All the time. Even, and especially, if it's not stylish.

Fire Storm> <<This is just funny, if not slight offensive>>: And asking me for a login.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:53:34 PM
IP: 198.151.130.245

Imzadi: Sorry to hear the news :( but then again, perhaps Apple has a few more tricks up their sleeves ;) In any case, you _do_ already rule GE... :)
Niamhgold
Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:53:23 PM
IP: 209.143.83.90

This is just funny, if not slight offensive! (But clean)
Fire Storm - [<<< Link of the day!]
Thursday, April 17, 2003 08:36:14 PM
IP: 66.72.189.117

Hudson - thank youuuuuu!

Revel - I'm not.
Lynati
Thursday, April 17, 2003 07:57:44 PM
IP: 64.219.129.92

Status of ketnar.org and the TGS website over at gargoyles-fans.org

I'm really getting tired of this. :P

The hardrives in our new server turned out to be knockoff western digital drives (Yes, i know, complete and utter crap - i didnt build the thing. i should have asked about that before we put the damn thing into use. 20/20 hindsight..) Which is where all our problems have stemmed from. First broken raid mirrors, and then mysterious file corruption, and soon after that, damn near complete drive failure.

Good thing we had two drives. One was active for use, and one was simply a backup copy of what was on the active drive. (hindsight, 20/20!)

I love WD drives, really. you put a little load on them, and they start to kill data at heavy access points on the platter.

We are pulling eveyrthing over into a backup server, which is NOT using WD drives. Its a pretty little beast, dell 1550, loaded, with lots of space for eveyrthing.

Websites, mail, and databases will be back online as soon as possible (sometime this afternoon/evening). sorry for the repeate issues over and over again. :P
Hudson
Thursday, April 17, 2003 06:32:05 PM
IP: 12.237.226.60

Poor poor Imzadi. *pats on shoulder* Sorry, man.
Dezi
Thursday, April 17, 2003 06:24:01 PM
IP: 68.58.158.101

Well, looks like I didn't get the Apple internship. So in answer to your question, Bud-Clare, I don't always get everything ;-)
Josh
Thursday, April 17, 2003 03:27:54 PM
IP: 64.165.203.237

*Warpmind strides in, a determined look plastered on his face.*
Hi, gang. Know I haven't been around much of late, but I've had a load on my mind. One thing, for example, is the utterly and truly monumental task of teaching myself to draw manga-style. This is comparable to trying to put out a bushfire using only a shotglass of water. It's possible, but it's likely to take a lot of time, and a load of work. I'd compare it to walking on water, but frankly, that's been done. (By me, even, though I'll be the first to admit that when I did it, it was December/January, and frickin' COLD!)

Anyways, I live, I make myself busy with all sorts of stuff, and I might get around to hanging out here more again. Try as you might, you're not getting rid of me YET. ;)

Well, I'm on vacation at my parents' at present, so I should get offline and be *Shudder* social, I guess. Or maybe I'll just flop down on the sofa and get started on Carpe Jugulum. (Finally gotten to it in the series - no wonder my mind is like a crowbar; inflexible and bent at both ends...) So, later, folks. And Be Weird, Well, and whatever you like, but I'll not expect anyone here to be *Good*. Unless it's being good at being bad. };)
Warpmind de InzanE - [warpmindATtiscaliDOTno]
Middle, Nowhere, Norway
Thursday, April 17, 2003 01:08:19 PM
IP: 193.216.86.75

Josh> <<Except for the lightsaber part.>>
Too bad he can't do the mind control. It'd come in handy.

<< <<When (if?) will there be new episodes of the original Gargoyles series, one, and (projecting a bit into the future and my future questions) the other series?>>: Never.>>
You might be getting predictable.

<<Welcome to real life.>>
*runs away screaming*

<<Neither does mine, but he cooks and pays half the bills so I let him stay. and he provides some furniture.>>
Mine doesn't cook (for herself, nevermind me), she doesn't provide any furniture, and while her money is definitely helpful for the person who owns the house, it doesn't directly affect me. *sighs* Useless bint.

<>
Could be why it's so dirty.

<<my nerves are going to shake me to death for the next 14 hours or so.>>
Try some alcohol for that.

<>
Send him a nice fruit basket first. It's only polite.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Thursday, April 17, 2003 02:20:49 AM
IP: 66.24.93.77

Imzadi> <<Except for the lightsaber part>>: You'd like to think so.
<<I'm not much of an exhibitionist>>: For enough of the gate you would.
<>: My feet tend to sweat, so that isn't a good idea for me.

Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours. By Stevie Wonder.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:58:31 PM
IP: 198.151.130.245

Lynati- I can help you with an art pannel if you are hosting one.
Revel
Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:07:52 PM
IP: 129.120.173.67

Reverend Attila:>I'm sure that link will be about the most recent Rodney King incident. I wonder if he'll blame the police for chasing him. ;-)
Leo
Wednesday, April 16, 2003 06:40:05 AM
IP: 68.96.8.12

Guess who is in trouble with the law again, and this time he used an SUV. Clck on my name for more :)
ghost of Reverend Attila
Gaulia Delenda Est!
Wednesday, April 16, 2003 03:14:17 AM
IP: 136.216.75.2

Oraidhe: *sigh* once again : newbie, ignore josh. Gargoyles will indeed have a fourth season; it will be posted when it is finished being written. If you are at all interested in helping with the process, TGS will be doing another writer/editor drive soon.

while I'm here, is anyone in the room interested in helping to host any writing or art (or else) discussion panels at the Gathering?
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Wednesday, April 16, 2003 02:44:51 AM
IP: 66.142.237.184

Well, Apple didn't call this evening, which means I should hear from them tomorrow. If I don't have an answer by middday Friday, I get to tell them that they lost the chance. I don't owe Apple anything, and frankly I don't think I'd have waited this long for any other company. Its so frustrating to be dragged along like this.

Dezi: <>: You're sick. Eat something.
<<after awhile, we do fight>>: Sounds like my brother. We're both happy to see each other...for five minutes.
<<ATTACK!>>: I wish I could. I've controlled myself since high school, when I shattered some poor girl's ego. Doing that now is likely to get me in trouble, especially if I do it to the TA.
<<to handle stress, Nestle Crunch bars and cheap soda do not a good refuge make>>: Thanks, but frankly I'm just wondering how I'm going to fall asleep tonight.
<<Like a Jedi with issues?>>: Except for the lightsaber part.
<>: Everyone thought that would happen with me and my best friend. Instead, we've been living together for 4 years and no problems.
<<Not to mention the weapons of Mass Destruction>>: Nah, better to leave around for the next Iraqi dictator to threaten us with.

Attila: <<picture>>: Thank you!

Spacebabie: <<Last monday registration started put I couldn't register until last wednsday>>: Mine hasn't started yet. No idea when it does, for that matter.
<<Some immature people covered themselves in fake blood and just stretched out on the ground pretending to be dead Iraqi citizens>>: Idiot. I hope you stepped on him.
<<She counts everything>>: How does that make her a genius?
<<Take what you can get>>: I plan to. It will block gathering, though.
<<Only work if she had the same IQ level as you>>: If she does, then I'm definitely not getting the job 8-)
<<I?m sure there is some medicine for that>>: Valium.
<<There are so many comments I could make about this>>: I know, but there wasn't a better way to say it.
<<You also had the hands of a five year old boy>>: And the height of one.
<<people wonder why I live in Florida?>>: I doubt it.
<<Start charging admission?>>: I'm not much of an exhibitionist.
<<Could have been Jehova?s Witnesses>>: Or mac freaks.

Barracuda: <>: Then I'm in trouble for the other 5" cars.

Oraidhe: <<Newbie, don't bite>>: Welcome.
<<When (if?) will there be new episodes of the original Gargoyles series, one, and (projecting a bit into the future and my future questions) the other series?>>: Never.

Bud Clare: <<He's got really screwed up ideas regarding grading and deadlines and such>>: Welcome to real life.
<<My roommate never cleans. Am very resentful>>: Neither does mine, but he cooks and pays half the bills so I let him stay. and he provides some furniture.
<<Interesting philosophy>>: Thanks.

Question: NO REALLY STOP POSTING ENTIRE ARTICLES.

Gside: <>: I just wear shoes.

Greg: <<question>>: Thank you.

Now if you'll excuse me, my nerves are going to shake me to death for the next 14 hours or so. Think happy thoughts so I get this job and stop talking about it.

174. If I am dangling over a precipice and the hero reaches his hand down to me, I will not attempt to pull him down with me. I will allow him to rescue me, thank him properly, then return to the safety of my fortress and order his execution.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Wednesday, April 16, 2003 02:05:32 AM
IP: 64.161.27.88

QUESTION> This is not an official Admin post, but seriously, I've seen the complaints and I've received several complaints through e-mail.

Please stop posting entire articles in the CR. Post a link so if anyone cares they can click on it.
Greg Bishansky
Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:27:06 AM
IP: 216.179.1.245

Imzadi> <<Our houseguest actually cleaned our kitchen so he "could walk in there in socks">>: I deal with it by just not caring.

Dezi> <<Like a Jedi with issues?>>: Kind of, but with much more hair, and I was going for a colonial look.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:10:07 AM
IP: 198.151.130.245

Palestinian Abu Abbas Captured in Iraq
Tue April 15, 2003 08:10 PM ET
By Jane Sutton

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Veteran Palestinian guerrilla leader Abu Abbas, who masterminded the 1985 hijack of the Achille Lauro cruise ship, has been captured by U.S. special forces in Iraq, the U.S. military said on Tuesday.

U.S. Central Command, which is overseeing the war in Iraq, said in a statement that Abbas was picked up in a raid in southern Baghdad on Monday evening.

It said his capture "removes a portion of the terror network supported by Iraq and represents yet another victory in the global war on terrorism," although Abbas has long renounced violence and Israeli has allowed him to travel to Gaza.

Asked what would happen top Abbas now, Central Command spokesman Maj. Brad Bartelt said: "Justice will be served." He gave no further details.

Abbas, also known as Mohammed Abbas, was sentenced in absentia in Italy to life in prison for planning the hijacking of the Italian cruise ship in the eastern Mediterranean.

The hijackers killed a disabled elderly American Jewish passenger, Leon Klinghoffer, shooting him and pushing his wheelchair over the side of the ship.

Abbas, who is now in his mid-50s, has spent much of the last 17 years in Iraq. He has traveled in the Middle East and stayed for some time in Gaza with the permission of the Israelis.

Although he had been the target of a manhunt after the Achille Lauro incident, the United States dropped a warrant for his arrest several years ago.

A hero of battle to Palestinians and the incarnation of evil to Israelis, Abbas became portly in middle age, his hair gray after decades as a fugitive.

While he was not on board the Achille Lauro, Italian courts sentenced Abbas in absentia to five life terms for planning the operation.

In a 1998 interview with Reuters, he called the ship hijack a "mistake" and said the PLF mission had been to use the ship as transportation to Israel for an attack on a naval base.

"The ship was only a means of transport like any other means we used to reach our goal," Abbas said.

The Israeli Supreme Court declared Abbas immune from prosecution in Israel over the Achille Lauro in 1999 after he was allowed to return to Gaza by an Israeli Security Committee which had concluded that he had renounced violence.

There were reports in January that he was in Egypt to take part in talks to end Palestinian attacks on civilians in Israel, but Egyptian authorities denied he was in the country.

"THE WHOLE WORLD IS CHASING YOU"

Abbas, who is married, was born in Haifa. He moved to Syria and studied Arabic literature and English at Damascus University.

He joined the PLF in 1965 and after it splintered over the years, retained control of the main pro-Arafat wing.

His PLF operated under the umbrella of Yasser Arafat's Palestinian Liberation Organization and he used imaginative methods, including hang-gliders, to penetrate Israeli defenses.

"I've been chased by the world now for 20 years. When America is chasing you, the whole world is chasing you," Abbas said in the 1998 Reuters interview at his office in the Palestinian-ruled Gaza.

The Central Command statement said one of the key objectives of the war in Iraq had been to "search for, capture and drive out terrorists who have found safe haven in Iraq."

It added: "This mission success highlights the U.S. and our coalition partners' commitment to defeating terrorism worldwide."

Late last year, in an interview with the New York Times, Abbas distanced himself from Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda and condemned the Sept. 11, 2001 hijacked plane attacks on New York and Washington.

While an active Palestinian resistance fighter two decades ago, however, he had declared the United States a legitimate target.

In a 1986 interview with NBC he warned Americans the PLF would start hitting targets in the United States, saying that then President Ronald Reagan had replaced Israel as the Palestinians' number one enemy.

"In the beginning our operations were only targetted at the Israeli enemy in Israel," he said. "America is now conducting the war against us on behalf of Israel. We therefore have to respond against America in America itself."
The Question
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:45:42 PM
IP: 216.170.210.215

Oraidhe> *waves* Hello. :)
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:44:52 PM
IP: 66.24.93.77

Josh> <<That always makes me nervous, because then you get the dubious privilege of taking it again.>>
I sat through all those boring lectures (boring because I'd actually done the readings), I got A's on two of the three quizzes... Argh. That's not fair. He's got really screwed up ideas regarding grading and deadlines and such. Anyway, this will be my first time dropping a class, although I should have a couple of times before. (I once got a C in a class which I genuinely liked just because I had a really horrible cold for the entire first half of the quarter, and was too stupid to drop the course. My optimism gets me into more trouble...)

<<Our houseguest actually cleaned our kitchen so he "could walk in there in socks".>>
My roommate never cleans. Am very resentful.

<<Someone has to be the asshole in any group of people, and I suppose in this group I'm fine in that role.>>
Interesting philosophy.
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Dezi> <>
Ouch. And I thought that losing ten pounds in a year was bad. (Ten pounds in a bad way, obviously. It'd be kind of silly to be upset about losing weight legitimately.) Go eat something.

<<*passes to Bud-Clare a Nestle Crunch bar*>>
Thank you. :)

<<Like a Jedi with issues?>>
:)
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Space babie> <<Next thing you know we might start actually talking about Gargoyles>>
What are those?

<<He said that all wars are bad and there was a never any war that solved a problem.>>
Attention whore. Probably wasn't even serious.

<<or if you want credit for the war then fight instead of cower.>>
French people have trouble telling the difference, so their confusion is understandable.

<<Obviously .can’t believe he got you confused.>>
?
I think that you must be thinking of someone else, too.

<<and people wonder why I live in Florida?>>
Because you enjoy giant bugs?

<<Some immature people covered themselves in fake blood and just stretched out on the ground pretending to be dead Iraqi citizens.>>
Some other people should have covered themselves in blood and pretended to be dead kurds. Subtle revenge is usually the best kind. ;)
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:42:01 PM
IP: 66.24.93.77

Interesting. Newbie, don't bite, don't get too upset if there are hidden rules of etiquette on here I'm not cognizant of- it'll probably be my only post anyway.

Two weeks prior, I remembered an odd little animated series from a few years back, and in my drunken state, decided 'gee, I should watch it.' A mere 13 days later, not only have I rewatched all 78 episodes (Including Goliath Chronicles- see above disclaimer about unknown taboos), but I've also read all three seasons of TGS's main Gargoyles series. My roomates were suitably frightened. I'll start on Timedancer soon, but not sure I'll get into the other two.

The first part of this post is to thank all of the people who wrote what I've been reading. You've more or less singlehandedly restored my faith in fan-fiction after a three year hiatus from reading any of the sort, and writing a fair bit, but that's another part of another story. The quality is, with a few errant bumps, very good and more importantly captures the 'feel' of the show.

The second part is a rather plaintive cry which I'm sure some will answer with a disgusted, tired relink to a page I've managed to miss. When (if?) will there be new episodes of the original Gargoyles series, one, and (projecting a bit into the future and my future questions) the other series? I did a little research- the Current Episode page only has a hard date for Pendragon, which I said before, doesn't interest me *yet*. There's a nebulous hint as to a fourth season of the main gargoyles thingy, but the other two have nothing. I did catch a reference to the 'cycle' of publishing, so I may assume that after the next season of Pendragon, there will be another series getting its run of publication. I only hope that whatever it is, I can get interested in it by then.

Thanks for your time, and I'll be reading all the replies to this, even if I don't actually respond.
Oraidhe - [N/A]
N/A, N/A, N/A
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:40:27 PM
IP: 128.61.59.145

Had to respond-
Spacebabie: <<in the name of :
Aliens
Weregoyles
Hot men
and hot men with sessy accents>>
Aliens, cool. Weregoyles... arn't they all kinda weregoyles? Hot men, amen. Sessy accents... I think you're being exclusive. What about the men with sexy accents?

<< "I have a theory...it might be hornets">>
Hornets arn't just mean like everybody supposes
they've got those freaky stripes and pokey little noses...

::Vanishes in haze of laughter and embarrasment at own idiocy::
Lila
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 07:50:51 PM
IP: 134.173.121.83

Josh: <> See?! I told you! They're damned tiny now, but I remember Hot Rod himself, out of any others, being way bigger.
The Barracuda
B.C., Canada
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 03:42:26 PM
IP: 208.181.156.210

I think I'm addicted to caramel corn dittos. They tast like corn pops.

I was nervous wereck the start of last week.
Last monday registration started put I couldn't register until last wednsday.

but I got them all!!!! I got all the classes that I need. Now my school better not pull another one over me.

last tuesday there was a Support Our Troops Rally. Some immature people covered themselves in fake blood and just stretched out on the ground pretending to be dead Iraqi citizens.

I understand if it was a Pro War rally but it wasn't it was for a Support our troops. Wether for or against the war you should support the troops. I swear if i ever so much see a hippy spit on one of OUR soldiers I wll a rrange a meeting. Netweem my fist and their face.
Hey since the soldiers defend our nation I feel it's only right I defend them.

Last week was also my little cousin's spring break. she'll be eight on May 3rd and she's a genious. We got together at Cici's pizza. She counts everything. I do not know how she could be related to us. She didn't get it from her father's side of the faimly...wich is our side.

And with Spring here I started to sdo some work in the garden. I've been yanking up weeds. I actually love it if it weren't for those hornets.

"I have a theory...it might be hornets"

Ah, lazy day. <<>> Cool game<<<yup>>> Then again, I'm still holding out for Apple. >>>Take what you can get<<<Maybe I should just find her email address and send her an email spoofed as Apple that says she'll never get the job. That would make me happy. >>>Only work if she had the same IQ level as you <<<
Another ebay'd transformer is due to me sometime soon.>>> I need to start selling stuff on E-bay soon. <<<Long day. I barely slept last night, and I couldn't sit still in class all day.>>>I’m sure there is some medicine for that.<<<. Tonight I scored Hot Rod >>>There are so many comments I could make about this.<<>>You also had the hands of a five year old boy

Bud Claire<<<You must be thinking of someone else. >>>Obviously .can’t believe he got you confused.<<<*sighs* After three and a half days with no electricity, heat, or phone, I'm finally back (and more or less thawed out). What a crappy weekend. Stupid bloody ice storm. >>>and people wonder why I live in Florida?

Kathy <<<The war stuff reminds me of the story of the little red hen. She asks for help and everyone tells her they're too busy so she plants and raises and harvest her corn herself. Then only after she's ground the corn and made her cornbread does everyone suddenly want to be her best friend. The only difference here is that now the rest of the world is telling the little red hen to take a powder while they enjoy the fruits of her labor. Fah. >>>Great analogy. Hey lazy bums, if you want some corn bread muffins then grow your own corn, or if you want credit for the war then fight instead of cower.

Jackal<<>>Start charging admission?

Aaron<<<Just popping in to say I'm still alive, and I do read the room, slowly, even if I don't have time to post anymore. Hopefully, when things get more settled, I can get back to my old routines.>>>Looking forward to one of your massive Aaron sized posts.

DPH<<<All those anti-war protestors got me thinking about the following rheotorical questions:
1)In retrospect, would they have been against the American revolution?
2)In retrospect, would they have been against the US entering WWI? WWII?
3)If your country is invaded, do they believe it's ok to fight back?
4)Do they believe it is ok for the citizens of a country to revolt against the government if the government is ignoring the basic needs of the people?
>>>
There was an idiot last week on campus during a support our troops rally. He said that all wars are bad and there was a never any war that solved a problem. One person asked what he was and the idiot answered that he was Jewish. This started a huge flood of WWII related discussion.

Lain<<<wow.. talking about TGS? whats this room coming to?? o.O >>>Next thing you know we might start actually talking about Gargoyles

Patrick<<<In Puck's "Future Tense" world, Angela never joined the clan and became Broadway's mate. As a result, after many years alone he ended up going blind.>>>::Unsheaths Smackers::: BAP!<<<but can do without the Tony Danza>>>I think we can all do with out Tony Danza.

Lynati<<<Yes, I'm sure that is it. Because it wasn't cool. >>>:::Claps and cheers Lyn:::

Dezi<<<The Baptists are sending out recruiters! Beware! Beware! *runs screaming away and hides under the bed, quivering with fear* >>>Could have been worse. Could have been Jehova’s Witnesses
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:56:51 PM
IP: 64.156.96.197

This picture is worth a thousand words :) Click on my name to see some good French bashing, when we all fear French jokes get as stale as exposed french bread (and if it's really good, it should be called Louisianne bread ) :)

And if it offends you, leave commenatry anyway ;)

And from yesterday, GB also has sex advice from Donald Rumsfeld.
ghost of Reverend Attila
Gaulia Delenda Est!
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:44:32 AM
IP: 136.216.75.2

Voice Cast Sighting...

Last night, I just realized who the actress is who's been playing Det. Laura Caine, sister-in-law to Horatio Caine (David Curuso) on CBS's "CSI: Miami." It's Salli Richardson... sporting a long mane of wavy dark hair and hiding her recognizable voice behind a Spanish accent. Which is what kept me from realizing it was her for this long, as the last time I watched her on "Family Law" she had her hair cropped really short.

So anyone who's a fan of Salli but can do without the Tony Danza... keep your eyes on "CSI: Miami." She's not a cast regular, but she's been in four or five episodes so far. It normally airs on Mondays at 10 PM Eastern.
Patrick Toman
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 07:04:23 AM
IP: 65.43.160.64

Wheee!
And no, I'm not dead.
I think I finally kicked the anxiety, or at least enough so I can eat. I lost 10 lbs. in a week though. Long and involved story, email me if you really care or just really want to know (I won't subject anyone to the gory details- that and it's just a really long story so it would be a massivly long post).
I was offered the position of Editor-in-Chief of the paper for next fall. Our current EIC and the managing editor (second in command) are graduating. I had to go through a formal apps process, but I am being referred to by the faculty and higher-ups as the "heir-apparent" so I guess it's pretty much a good thing. Wheee.

My mommy is coming to visit me tomorrow. This can be both good and bad. I haven't seen her in awhile, but after awhile, we do fight. Hmmmm. Maybe time will tell,if you should all wonder if I still exist, due to that anyway.

Replies:
Josh: <and changes the subject when backed into a corner instead of admitting she's wrong and moving on. > ATTACK!
<Should be hearing from Apple tomorrow or the day after, I'm kind of nervous about that> Good luck, and, to handle stress, Nestle Crunch bars and cheap soda do not a good refuge make.
<Ooh, and look, last week didn't get wiped> It looks to me like it skips a week. Like it only goes every other week.

Bud-Clare: Poor poor Bud-Clare. :( *passes to Bud-Clare a Nestle Crunch bar*

Gside: <(got dressed up and wore a bow on my braid). > Like a Jedi with issues? :)

Niamhgold:<I'd be living in the same building as my best friend AND, possibly, working with her. Well...we'll see ;)> hmmm. Could be dangerous. I have lots of friends that I would end up just killing if I had to be around them way too much. It will be a test, anyway. And thanks for the anxiety advice.

Jackal: <Not only Saddam, but his money needs to be found, that's billions of dollars> Not to mention the weapons of Mass Destruction.

Ok. Need Sleep.
Later
Dezi - [nothingtofear@hotmail.com]
Hell, Indiana
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 03:07:01 AM
IP: 68.58.158.101

I'm really starting to hate my TA for my humanities class. Supposedly a Mechanical Engineering grad student, I swear this girl doesn't have a thought between her ears. She explains basic engineering concepts incorrectly (and not just "dumbed down" for the humanities majors either, I'm talking about gross inaccuracies) and changes the subject when backed into a corner instead of admitting she's wrong and moving on.

I got my first of my new transformers collection today: Hot Rod. He looks so tiny! Doesn't even stretch across my hand in car mode. I remember them being much bigger, obviously.

Should be hearing from Apple tomorrow or the day after, I'm kind of nervous about that.

Ooh, and look, last week didn't get wiped.

Todd: <<So when IS the room going to get cleared?>>: Probably at about 355PM PST...give or take a few minutes.

Greg X: <<a late night showing of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show">>: I am really looking forward to that.
<<if you haven't registered yet, please do so. This is one weekend none of you will want to miss>>: I wish I could, but I have to wait until my summer schedule works out.

Todd: <<What do you expect to see happen in the upcoming season of "Pendragon"?>>: More arthurian legend, because I'm so poorly versed in it.

Question: <<Pendragon>>: Good comments. I agree.

Bud Clare: <>: That SUCKS.
<>: That always makes me nervous, because then you get the dubious privilege of taking it again.
<<like, for instance, most college students>>: Me! Our houseguest actually cleaned our kitchen so he "could walk in there in socks".
<<And money>>: That too.
<<Why would anyone want to?>>: Someone has to be the asshole in any group of people, and I suppose in this group I'm fine in that role. But that's not the same as being SJ.

Gside: <<wouldn't you say that was redundant?>>: I would. Force of habit.
<<If you get enough baloons, they reduce your time to below zero>>: I see. I'll be sure to mention that.

Hmmm, kinda tired. Goodnight.

173. Although it would provide amusement, I will not confess to the hero's rival that I was the one who committed the heinous act for which he blames the hero.

Josh - [ATkicktothenutsDOTcom]
Berkeley, CA, US of A
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 01:26:38 AM
IP: 64.168.29.163

Dezi> <<Wow. The Question answered.>>
And in his own words, no less. Shocking.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:22:33 AM
IP: 66.24.93.77

Imzadi> <<My roommate has found an online guide most helpful>>: All hail gamefaqs.
<<Congrats>>: Thank you, but wouldn't you say that was redundant?
<<How does that work?>>: If you get enough baloons, they reduce your time to below zero. Say you took 45 seconds, hit 3 birds, and got 13 balloons. With time adjustments of -3 for birds and +3 for balloons, your time would be -3seconds.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@eden.rutgers.edu]
Piscataway, NJ
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:14:56 AM
IP: 198.151.130.245

Wow. The Question answered. :)
Dezi
Monday, April 14, 2003 11:34:41 PM
IP: 68.58.158.101

Argh... What a rotten week. I had a project due last night, but I couldn't get it working in time, so I get a zero... and it was worth 25% of my grade. So, I get to drop the class, which I'm ever so thrilled about, for so many reasons. If that damned ice storm had happened _any_ time other than when it did, it wouldn't have been a big deal, but losing power that particular weekend really f*cked me up. (I loathe the computers in the lab, so I didn't go there to work on it, although in hindsight I should have, even though it would have taken me twice as long to accomplish anything.) Argh. *sighs* At least the due date for my AI project has been moved to Monday. I was afraid that I wasn't going to be able to finish that one, either, since it was originally due this Wednesday, and I spent all weekend working on the other project instead. At least I got to see my puppy this weekend. :)
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Josh> <<"Neither a borrower nor a lender be." No idea who said it, but I've been living that way for a long time.>>
Polonius.

<>
I didn't say insane. I meant that I'm not a filthy slob like, for instance, most college students. Besides, everyone is insane, so you're usually better off with the ones who are actually willing to admit it.

<<Do something that you love. Otherwise college will be a waste of time.>>
*grumbles* And money...

<<it is redundant to congratulate someone for earning an impressive award, as the award itself is congrats for a job well done.>>
Unless the award involves money...

<< <>: I could never take his place.>>
Why would anyone want to?
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Monday, April 14, 2003 11:33:23 PM
IP: 66.24.93.77

<What do you expect to see happen in the upcoming season of "Pendragon"? >

Well I'd expect a few grail episodes with a possible cameeo from the Fisher King though you guys probably would reserve that for season five, definitely more of Morgana, more development on Lancelot like how he survived and also the seasonal and traditional thirteen treasures episode(I'm hoping he gets the chess board this year). Hopefully we might even get to see more gargoyle clans, less of Merlin and Mary and more of those characters introduced in the Gargoyles World Tour who were never properly developed.
The Question
Monday, April 14, 2003 11:31:48 PM
IP: 67.233.55.9

Just a small little question to those attending the con in here.

Spacebabei and I will be arriving at La Guardia airport at around 2:45 to 3:00pm on June 26th. if anyone else is arriving at or around or near that time and does not want to ride a shuttle bus alone give one of us an e-mail or post soemthing.

I'll probably mention this again the closeer to the con we get.
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Monday, April 14, 2003 10:42:25 PM
IP: 129.120.173.67

Well, now that the room's cleared and the Top Ten is over, I thought that I'd ask a question here in the hopes of getting a little TGS-related discussion going.

The next cycle that will be seeing release will be Season Four of "Pendragon" (which should be coming out in the summer of 2003, if all goes well - we are, admittedly, still somewhat understaffed in the Edits Department). So I thought that I'd raise this question. What do you expect to see happen in the upcoming season of "Pendragon"?
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, April 14, 2003 09:28:03 PM
IP: 67.28.95.137

Top 10, #10
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, April 14, 2003 08:58:04 PM
IP: 204.94.193.15

NEIN!
Josh
Monday, April 14, 2003 08:37:43 PM
IP: 64.168.29.163

*** GATHERING 2003 POST ***

There is still plenty of time to register for The Seventh Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles.

Greg Weisman (Series Creator & Supervising Producer), Thom Adcox Hernandez (Voice of Lexington), and Greg Guler (Lead Character Designer) will be attending the con.

For those of you who've never been to a Gathering before, it's a great place to meet and get acquanted, as those who've attended can well attest to.

As mentioned before, there will be panels discussing various expects of the series, its fandom, and the animation industry. A Dealer's Room, a video room playing episodes of "Gargoyles", anime, a late night showing of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show", an auction, and the annual banquet.

There is still time to enter the Calendar and t-shirt contests. This month, the Monthly Gargoyles Contest has been nice enough to contribute by making this month's contest "Gargoyles" in New York themed as our Calendar contest is. You can visit their page at...

http://mgc.gargoyles-fans.org

And we are always eager to have you all participate, if you have any panel ideas you'd like to contribute or even sit on, let us know.

http://gathering.gargoyles-fans.org

So if you haven't registered yet, please do so. This is one weekend none of you will want to miss.

*** END GATHERING POST ***
Greg Bishansky - [gathering@gargoyles-fans.org]
Monday, April 14, 2003 08:20:41 PM
IP: 216.179.5.165

Eighth!
Leo
Monday, April 14, 2003 08:16:31 PM
IP: 68.96.8.12

Some number of other. Hey Ed, I thought we had a deal going where we'd alert each other when the room was wiped. What gives? ;)
Vash
Monday, April 14, 2003 08:08:45 PM
IP: 129.98.31.184

6th
Revel
Monday, April 14, 2003 07:55:35 PM
IP: 129.120.173.67

Fifth!
Bud-Clare
Monday, April 14, 2003 07:54:29 PM
IP: 66.24.93.77

I suppose that I'm third. Nice to see this room cleared at last.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, April 14, 2003 07:13:09 PM
IP: 63.208.61.37

Third in the name of :
Aliens
Weregoyles
Hot men
and hot men with sessy accents
Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Monday, April 14, 2003 07:12:22 PM
IP: 67.28.69.83

Not First!

(Second! :))
Ed
Monday, April 14, 2003 07:04:46 PM
IP: 213.187.48.52

FIRST!!!
Greg Bishansky
Monday, April 14, 2003 06:54:55 PM
IP: 216.179.5.165