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Right, I'm just marking my place.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - []
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:57:27 PM

airwalker>> <<Can't wait to see BAD GUYS. I really want to see how the staff is going to handle an all villain cast>> yeah, it should be fun. be prepared, however for a different flavour than in the rest of TGS so far. its shaping up to be a little darker - people will actually get hurt and die, and were not going to be limiting this to minor characters. its going to be a real action series :)
<<Just out of curiousity, what is the date more or less in PENDRAGON and what is going to be the starting date in BAD GUYS? Are they both still in the late 1990's or has it reached 2003 yet?>> the official start-date for "bad guys" is september 1999. robyn has been used in TGS previously, and that had to be taken into consideration. and i think this season of pendragon will sort-of overlap with "bad guys". some characters will be hopping around between series'. someone in next weeks "pendragon" will be popping up mid-season in "bad guys" - though it will be only a few weeks later TGS-time.

phire-kat>> uh.. maybe.. id need more of a description than "yeah, he likes green" but.. i could see my way to doing that..
how much is he gonna pay me? ;)

Saturday, July 19, 2003 03:39:36 PM

Hey lain since you like never answer your email I thought I'd have a better chance in here. LOL Gabe wants to be in your clan, was wonding if you had the time to do up a pic of him as a garg? Green's his fav color. TTYL
Phire KAt
Space, Nowherebuthere, Novoflux
Saturday, July 19, 2003 09:16:29 AM

A bit about Mary becoming Arthur's squire (in delayed response to Airwalker on that issue). I don't think that Arthur, Mary, or anybody else in "Pendragon" was seeing Mary as an official member of Arthur's entourage prior to this point, but more as a "client"; she was accompanying Arthur simply because she had the hopes of finding a cure for her condition (and, later on, also because Merlin had become her boy-friend and she was concerned for him), but wasn't that interested at that point in overall helping Arthur out. Her becoming Arthur's squire was intended to indicate a turning point in her career, going from somebody merely seeking help from Arthur to a full-fledged member of his party.

At least, that's the way that I saw it. This, I believe, is why Mary becomes Arthur's squire when she does instead of much earlier.

Todd Jensen - []
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, July 19, 2003 07:31:13 AM

Gside - Thanks for inspiring an idea. I decided to do a search on the 'net for the sound driver I'm using and discovered the remedy for my problem: using a different driver. (Note: there are big differences between the software your computer was shipped with and the restoration software you have)
Saturday, July 19, 2003 02:42:04 AM

Revel> <<Since then I have gone through 5 roommates>>: In my college career, I've had 21, although only 6 of those slept in the same room as me.

DPH> <<I don't get the joke>>: SQL can be pronounced sequel.
<<Does anybody have theories on what I need to do to get the sound working?>>: Drivers?

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - []
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:14:15 AM

***********Spoilers For THE MISTS OF EYNHALLOW**************

Let me join the ranks of people congratulating Ed on his exemplery writing on this episode. I particularly enjoyed the contrast between Griff's enthusiasim and Mary's muttering when they first arrived on the island. One of the characteristics I love about Mary is the way she sometimes reacts to adventures the way I would, like screaming when getting drenched.

Another bit of dialogue I liked was Arthur apologising to the profs in case he got their names wrong. It was understandable considering he had only met them for about a day two or three years ago. It really humanised the conversation, making it feel like a group of real people being introduced to eachother instead of just another exposition fest. BTW does the professors' "vague surprise" at Mary's surname indicate they've had dealings with Nigel Sefton in the past or did they simply recognize the name of a prominent politician?

The final scene where all th ghosts came together was fantastic. With all the various creatures, people and things running around I got a real sense of unbridled chaos. I really liked how Griff's Leo hallucination proved to be helpful. A neat twist on the cliche of heros struggling with the ghosts of their past. speaking of Leo, the flashback to 1918 provided some excellent insight into why Leo was so willing to abandon the 'Gargoyles Protect' credo. I was also surprised to get the information with we did on Prof Duane's past, being a harassed geek is hardly a unique background but it was impressive to see a relative bit player get even this amount of attention.

There were a few elements that bugged me the first time I read "Mists," but improved during my subsequent reading. The first was how willing Arthur was to abandon Emrys. I had trouble accepting that Arthur woud be willing to leave the man he speant a year searching the world. But on further reflection I realised Arthur was a king, given his experiences in war he is probably familiar with concepts of tactical retreats and acceptable losses. He had two, possibly three civilians depending on how he viewed Mary, who were in danger and needed to be taken out of the combat zone, understandable.

An element I really liked on the second reading was Mary being the one best at retaining a grip on reality. In the first reading I didn't get it, why her out of all the mythical and magical people present? It wasn't until I reread the line "you need someone with a bit of common sense around here" that I figured it out. Out of all the people on the island Mary was the one most tied to the "rational" world, that is the human world which dismisses mythical and magical creatures as unreal. Even the profs have been best friends with a space alien for about five years now. Therefore while the other people on the island were more familiar with the fantastic and thus perhaps more likely to accept the idea that they could be transported into the past at a moment's notice, Mary's more rational mind began to reject the notion that she had gone back in time. Common sense dictated that a 15 year old girl on a small island could not suddenly become a ten year old in London. Because her "common sense" rejected that notion she was able to reject her flashback faster than the rest. Or at least that's how I think she was able to recover so easily. Am I even close to finding the reason for her resistance? Was that theory even coherent? (I really should stop posting stuff at half passed midnight).

Hmmmm, getting a little too tangental, better get back to the review.

One aspect of the flashback plot I did not care for was the resoloution. Or rather the lack of one. I honestly don't understand how they got the ghost to come down. Did understanding why the monk was so frustrated allow the ghost to find peace or is he going to return to EYNHALLOW on a nightly basis to torment any future visitors to the island?

Other than that minor gripe I quite enjoyed this story. A quick note about the art; I am dying of jealously, that pic was amazing! The textures of the rocks and the backgorund, the lighting, especially Merlin's shadow, I was blown away!
A lot of work obviously went into that one.

Minor Points:

-Like others I was glad to learn there won't be an Avalon world tour but I wasn't all that surprised. The fact that they only took a skiff in RETURN TO AVALON gave it away. If Arthur really was going on an extended tour it would have made more sense for him to take a comfortable, well-stocked ship.

-The Monk's diary seemed to imply that he came to the island to find the Grail and he actually did have visions of it. Does the grail appear at EYNHALLOW regularily or something?
For that matter, what was the signifigance of of the structure beneath the monastarey?

-At one point Griff and Arthur face a vampire ghost, is this one of the Vampyres or another vampire foe Arthur faced back in the day?

-This doesn't really have anything to do with the story but is a question that grew out of the "How guilty is Merlin?" discussion from a few weeks ago. In TGS Igraine was a Fay right? Does that mean she's still alive?

-Finally I am glad to hear DARK AGES is still being developed. It was my favorite series until PENDRAGON season 3 came along and I look forward to eventually seeing it again. You nice TGS folk take your time working on it. The care and patience you put into your stories really shows in the finished project.

*************END SPOILERS*********************

Graymonk - []
Friday, July 18, 2003 11:53:53 PM

Fire Storm - <Lame computer joke: I am at work reading about SQL and I haven't even seen the original!> Ok, this may be caused by sleepiness, but I don't get the joke.

Airwalker - <Actually I'd like to see a group illustration of the entire Caledonian Clan, Hatchlings and all.> I would venture a guess that one is unlikely to be produced by tgs in the short term. You'd have to ask Todd about any future visits to the Caledonian clan during Pendragon series.

I can't quite figure out why sound isn't working on my pc after I restored everything. I know the wires are hooked up. Does anybody have theories on what I need to do to get the sound working?

Friday, July 18, 2003 10:54:05 PM

Lame computer joke:

I am at work reading about SQL and I haven't even seen the original!

Fire Storm
Friday, July 18, 2003 09:15:41 PM

AIRWALKER - Thanks for your review. In answer to a couple of your questions:

1. Pendragon is still late 1999. (Yes, a few years behind, but the trouble is that we haven't been able to turn things out as quickly as we used to; too many problems befalling the staff these days. Truth is, Ed and I were the only people who were able to do much active work on "Pendragon" in terms of Breakdowns and Writing. We're hoping that that will change, however.)

I won't say anything about how we'll do the Grail in TGS, but I will mention that I did ask Greg Weisman once over the issue of the Grail's connections to Christianity, since he'd already made it clear that it was going to show up in "Pendragon" if the spin-off had been made. He said that he wasn't that worried about it because the Grail's connections to Arthurian legend were much stronger than its connections to Jesus.

Todd Jensen - []
St. Louis, MO
Friday, July 18, 2003 06:41:52 PM

Well let's see. I have not done much besides school art and work since Gathering. Yeah, I don't get out much, which is fine, more time to chat with Spacie.

I get a new roomie this semester. I first started visiting the CR when I got to college and got my own computer. Since then I have gone through 5 roommates. This one will be my 6th. Gee, I guess I'm just a hard guy to live with. ];) Finally got to talk to him on the phone, seems liek a nice guy, but he's a freshman so hopefully my attitude towards the school does not depress him too much since he's still so shinny. As long as he does not try to get me to by him booze, I'm sure we'll get along just fine. If not, there is always my slaughtering pig and plastice plan.

And A small plug for Mara, but I have got to say it. ;) Who in here likes web comics? Well if you do go check out mara's "First born" comic. It is quite enjoyable.

Lynati- have fun with the glass blowing and don't forget to take some CCR music with you.

Yeash, back to the grind.

Revel - []
the bayou city, tx
Friday, July 18, 2003 04:26:21 PM

TODD - You wrote: [The reason why we occasionally call Arthur "the Once and Future King" is for the sake of variety; it gets monotonous if we only say "Arthur".]

I'm just waiting for someone to start constantly calling him "Artie". :-)

HEATHER - You wrote: [I would love to see more of Mary and Emrys or see any many chars that haven't even gotten an illustration for. Like Dorcas or Winston or the hatchlings of the Caledorian clan.]

Actually I'd like to see a group illustration of the entire Caledonian Clan, Hatchlings and all. We've seen tons of Brianna pictures and a few Kristie and Kylie one's too but we've never really gotten any pictures of the rest of the Clan - Tori and the new Hatchlings have never actually been illustrated as far as I know.

GREG BISHANSKY - You wrote: [it will likely be followed by "Bad Guys" and then "Gargoyles".]

Can't wait to see BAD GUYS. I really want to see how the staff is going to handle an all villain cast. Just out of curiousity, what is the date more or less in PENDRAGON and what is going to be the starting date in BAD GUYS? Are they both still in the late 1990's or has it reached 2003 yet?

You wrote: ["Timedancer" should follow.]

Can't wait to see the next season of TIMEDANCER which I'm hoping will deal mostly with Apep, Meryt, and Harthoth; the Egypt plotline of TIMEDANCER has always been what captured my interest in that series.

You wrote: [As for "Dark Ages". Well, time will tell.]

I don't really miss DARK AGES that much. The main two characters who I really enjoyed in that series were mainly Hudson's Mate and Asrial. Otherwise I didn't really have much of an interest at all in the other characters.

And from those two we can always have Asrial show up in GARGOYLES - in the aftermath of the 2nd Unseelie War there has to be enough magic floating around in the air that a restless enough (or curious enough) spirit can manifest itself and start wandering around the castle and dealing with the cast.


Let me start by saying that I'm so happy the staff decided to sink the Skiff; I was convinced at the end of the last episode that we were going to get another world tour, something which runs the risk of having a sort of a "been there done that" feeling to it. It was an interesting bit of misdirection to suggest it and then go in a different way. I'm also very pleased that eliminating the Skiff didn't take the same route it did in PENDRAGON, namely just sinking without any damage to it because Avalon wanted it to.

At first I wasn't sure how to feel about so many familier past characters showing up - both archeologists and Macbeth all at the same time. One or the other would have been good but having all three of them felt like a little too much at first. But because of the Avalon factor involved I got used to it. If they had just been travelling normally and stumbled onto all three like that it would feel like the story stacking everything to fall right into place for the Pendragon crew. But since they were just coming off Avalon it makes sense for them to run into everyone they would need to.

I liked very much Merlin's stubborness in wanting to use magic even though some use of it could theoretically weaken his defenses enough for the poison to kill him. Its an interesting situation - all the work he put in the last 3 seasons to gain his magic back are lost since major use of it could kill him. He's stuck in having to live an even less magic using based life. I like that situation and can't wait to see more development on it. (It also helps to work to draw him closer to Mary since without magic and being sick he's more likely to depend on her help to compensate.)

Mary continuing to mention Shakespeare when dealing with the cast is a great touch. Although considering that she knows Shakespeare better than she knows Lennox Macduff, I would have liked for her to be a bit more suspicious of him despite what Arthur told her. Just dismissing suspicion because Arthur says so seems a bit of a stretch. A bit more tension between her and Macbeth would have been nice.

The ghost giving glimpses into the pasts of the cast was pretty interesting - I particularly loved the looks into Mary and Griff's past. I'm also wondering where the series is going to go by emphasising Arthur's crimes against the children he killed and also against Gwen. I was under the impression that the series would want to not emphasis these events.

(I wasn't happy with the way Arthur reacts at the very end of the story to them. He says that while he can never redeem himself, that perhaps he can find forgiveness. I was disappointed that nobody would challenge him on this point, that perhaps there are just things that you can never be forgiven for. As it is everyone seems to fall into line with Arthur just because he was the mythical King; when he (or Merlin) are wrong then someone has to say something about it! I'd like to see much more conflict on this with Arthur rather than just rallying to him because he was a King. And I'd like to see Arthur come to grips with his crimes and realize that sometimes even with atonement you can't get forgiveness.)

I did like that Arthur finally figured out that the whole Holy Grail thing. (Although I wonder, can the series just have it remain a simple magical item or will the Christian origin of the Grail be emphasised in the future? And if it is then is that really a wise thing to do?) It took him long enough but then again Arthur really is thick headed. (I should also say that I'm tired of Arthur constantly mentioning endless quests - he was already on a quest to cure Merlin after having come off a quest to clear himself after having been on a quest to defeat Madoc which was on the heals of his quest to find Merlin. Now he's on a quest to find the Grail which technically is part of his quest to cure Merlin, but the way he frames it makes it really seem like its an entirely new quest and that Merlin's condition might fall into the background a bit.)

I didn't like the bit where Arthur gave Mary the title of Squire. It felt out of place since the obvious place for her to have gotten a title was when she started travelling with him, same as happened with Griff. Here it makes the whole idea sound silly and gives off the feeling that Arthur brought up her lack of title to use as an excuse because he didn't want a woman travelling with him to find the Grail. Mary brings up good arguements but the main one should have been that they were on a quest to cure her first and that fell into the background only to now be completely forgotten about when Merlin gets sick. If the Grail can cure him then it could cure her and there really isn't a reason to try and put a stumbling block in her way to joining them on this quest.

Also the whole thing about him having everyone kneel before him - he's not king anymore and I'm suprised that nobody seems to object to it. I could see Griff doing it since he's caught up with his Knighthood fantasies but wouldn't most modern people have a problem with it? I know I sure as hell wouldn't start bowing and kneeling just because Arthur Pendragon asks me to. It's not medieval times and I would love to see someone conflict with Arthur on alot of his behavior rather than just accept it or fall into line with it. Maybe the cast needs to add a New Yorker to the mix. :-)

As for where the Grail is, I can understand the desire to want to start looking in England but wouldn't it make more sense to follow some of the more historically plausible stories about the Grail when looking for it? The odds of Joseph of Arimathea shleping all the way up to Britain when he could just hide the thing in the Dead Sea countryside or in Egypt or in Galilee makes more sense. Now if they were looking for the reappearing/disappearing castle its in that can move from place to place, then I could see a hunt start in England. But shouldn't they be thinking about a location thats a bit more Middle Eastern or French? (French on the idea that the Templars could have moved it to France during one of the Crusades.)

This is all still really setup to get them onto the Grail Quest; its well written and has tons of good characterization (particularly for Mary) but its still was all leading to get the cast onto the path they are now probably going to be following for the rest of the season. I can't wait for next week to see the main cast reunite with the rest of the cast and to see how everyone will react to the time differences between them.


Airwalker - []
Brooklyn, NY
Friday, July 18, 2003 02:19:36 PM

Thanks, Todd. And I don’t think anyone should need to be reminded of your ongoing commitment to ‘Pendragon’. :)

Thanks to everyone who has commented so far on “The Mists of Eynhallow” though, I’m delighted you all enjoyed it. And I’m glad people are commenting on Karen’s illustrations, which have been gorgeous so far.

Heather: Don’t forget that this ‘Pendragon’ is a much longer season than ‘Timedancer’ yet the artists had a third the length of time on hiatus between seasons to work on it.

Incidentally, I totally agree with those who want to see ‘Dark Ages’ continued. In actual fact, the third season is potentially closer to completion than ‘Gargoyles’. The trouble is, it’s also chronically short-staffed. I don’t know if any people out there would respond to a recruitment drive if there was to be one though, since the series has been ‘off the air’ for three and a half years now.

Ed - []
London, England
Friday, July 18, 2003 12:18:16 PM

Dark Ages: Yeah, you guys have created a bunch of really cool characters for that one, we technically know how it ends (massacre) but I think some of us have hope that somehow some of those characters survive. Our hopes either need to be crushed, or allowed to be true, but you can't just leave us hanging! :)
Friday, July 18, 2003 11:36:08 AM

ANDY> Eventually. It's still in development though.
Greg Bishansky
Friday, July 18, 2003 12:08:32 AM

wow... you mean Gargoyles season four is coming?! sorry to sound like an airhead...
Andy Wong - []
NY, NY, 11214
Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:50:33 PM

Fire Storm> <<It's way too slow in here>>: Ayup. I believe there was some downtime, too. For an extra discussion topic, how about this: I like my bacon crispy, and so reject my mother's attempt to bring in fake bacon.
<<Or aluminum pistons to melt down>>: They don't stack as well.
<<Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me>>: Most of them are harmless, except for Dr. Whiteface (Sorry, been rereading my Discworld books).
<<e: Geologic time frames need not apply>>: You should have had "f: Never" for Imzadi's sake.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - []
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:29:02 PM

Yeah, bring out Dark Ages! I've read the whole thing like 3 times over so far...I want more!!

In other news, my mom reflected that Cleo the feline retriever only really brings her toy mice to me when she wants to play. You would think she's be more inclined to bring it back to my sister Jen, who gives her the most attention. Also, Cleo won't sit or sleep with me, only Jen and she'll sleep in the chair with my mom. It's weird. My own cat, Lola, is finally starting to take over the house again. Usually she's been speading the entire day (not even comming down or in for lunch like before) either upstaors or outside, but the past 2 days she's been downstairs for a bit. She was sick the other day though, we don't know why, but she's okay now, been very much lively since then (and curiously, that's when she started to be the more social self she was before Cleo came).

/end report

Andrea - []
Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:28:02 PM

Well, "Pendragon" is currently going on, and it will likely be followed by "Bad Guys" (I'm actually writing a story for it right as I type this), and then "Gargoyles". "Timedancer" should follow. As for "Dark Ages". Well, time will tell.
Greg Bishansky
Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:45:56 PM

Todd: Wolf Urameshi brings up a good point: When will Dark Ages, main storyline TGS and Bad Guys be out?
a: 1-3 months
b: 3-6 months
c: 6-12 months
d: Human time frames need not apply
e: Geologic time frames need not apply

Fire Storm
Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:23:29 PM

Um, Wolf, we just did "Timedancer" a few months ago. We're not due to do the next season for quite a while yet.
Todd Jensen - []
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, July 17, 2003 09:54:45 PM

Halloes! First, I would like to congratulate Ed Reynods for writing such a compelling story for Pendragon. Now for business: This one goes to Todd Jensen. Todd, I love the fanfics in TGS. When will there be new TimeDancer stories? Please let me know. By the way, how do you sign up for the TGS staff? Just wondering. G2G, later!
Wolf Urameshi - []
Lares, Puerto Rico
Thursday, July 17, 2003 09:47:53 PM

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Ed Reynolds for writing "The Mists of Eynhallow", his first story written for TGS. Ed has been, since he signed up on the TGS staff, a great help in getting "Pendragon" done - I'd particularly like to add that, if it hadn't been for him, we'd still be struggling through Breakdowns for "Pendragon". He's already written many other stories for this season of "Pendragon" that you should be reading soon. Thank you very much, Ed.
Todd Jensen - []
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, July 17, 2003 07:06:53 PM

It's way too slow in here.

Yggdrasil: <Actually the average stats for the suit are 35mph vertical speed and 60-70mph horizontal speed>
YEOW! MUCH better than I thought! I'd say that's about Lex's stats too...

Gside: <Who doesn't? Though you can always start collecting ingots to pass the time>
Or aluminum pistons to melt down

Spacebabie: <There are new stories by Princess Alexandria, Allaine and yours truly to fill the void>
This is true

DPH: <Interesting.>
Yeah. LM's in sales, so she actually has work to do. I am in support, so I sit on my a$$ for hours on end doing jack.

Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.

Fire Storm
Thursday, July 17, 2003 06:05:44 PM

In addition to ad-aware(which is a wonderful program BTW) I also run spybot search and destroy... Either one will pick up about 85% of the spyware your system gets, but both together is closer to 93%.
Thursday, July 17, 2003 03:09:55 PM

Ah, the fun of resealing a driveway with two year old resealer. At least our police neighbor gave us some hazmat boots. And I'm also helping my father make baseball cards of my cousin's team (who live a time zone away).

Lynati> <<return of the school year will bring back the number of art pieces>>: And then there will be the problem of having to spend time on school work also. Therefore, there is no good time for recreational art.

Leo> <<Now I dont have all those little spyware popups appearing when someone in the CR mentions "Air travel" or "new computer.">>: I don't have popups, period.

Robby> <<I'm the original room admin>>: Or at least closest to original we still have. Wasn't DumlaoX the first?
<<WE KNOW YOU'RE THERE WILEK, TALK TO US>>: Sadly, too much sex in here for his violence.
<<now I'm just rambling like an idiot>>: It's what the rest of us call a post.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - []
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:40:17 PM

MGC and AMGC both updated

Winners for the Egyptain Gargoyle Topic
Kythera for 'Isis' for Most Artistic
Dreamie for 'Emerging from the Tomb..' for Most Creative

Current topic for submissions, Video Game Gargoyles

Congrats to Rita for the new AMGC mascots, Rita and Fiore!
Congrats to Spike for Mistress of the Night winning Most artistic!

Current topic for AMGC Gargoyles Pinups Cheesecake/Beefcake.

(and amgc has a forum now)

Siryn - []
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 02:42:31 PM

Makenai! Ashita e seraa eeru,
Zettai! Tsukamaeru! seeraa staa,
Kono chikai todoke ginga made!!

Yes folks, I have the Sailor Moon Sailor Stars opening theme stuck in my head. I love this Song! I know the english lyrics too, but it sounds 100 x better in japanese. I know I'm pathetic, you don't have to remind me :)

It's going ot be a LONG nite. For 6 1/2 hours, I have to be first ringer AND do photo at work tonite, and it's truck day too, so if it came late today, or if it's been busy during the day, I have to do checkout candy on top of that (but in a way, I'm glad about the last part, since I'm the only one who keeps the candy overstock section underneath the counter neat and organized). Why I'm the only one, I have no clue. For the most part, I am very capable of handling it, but that's not the full point, and I HATE being first ringer. I'm hoping they call someone else in, or a get a ton of photo so I don't have to ring all nite. 3 out of my past 4 shifts I've had to ring 5 hours or more, and that annoys me (95% I'm first finger is when somone is on break, and it's only for 30 minutes). Oh well, I have no choice but to live with it. I'll shut up now, I don't know why I'm ranting to you guys, and I apologize. Yeah, I'm THAT bored.

Back to listening to the song. It'll kep me in a okay mood until I leave for work in an hour...

Andrea - []
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 02:12:19 PM

Robby> OOOOOOOOOOOOh... *growls* You just pissed me off, when you call tonight we're going to brawl boy. And for Monday that you've been looking forward to.... You have to earn this one.

Anyway! *brings up a gray flag* I'm not putting white because I feel like I don't need to. I talked to Karen and I told her my side and she told me hers so I'm trying to be the peace keeper, lets put this aside and go on. As they say "Stop living in the past."

Heather - []
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:54:27 PM

Leo > You may have just had your account number lifted by a dishonest store clerk or gas station attendant. Some scammers will use a stolen number to just buy small things, betting on the fact that a lot of people make many charges every month and are too lazy to examine their bank or credit card statement carefully. The best thing to do is just report the fradulent billing to your bank then request that they cancel the card and issue a new one with a new account number.
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:25:54 PM

Dezi: I still have the huge version of the picture for 'Mists' on my PC so if Todd, DPH and the others don't mind I can send a larger image to be put up. (The current one is about 25% the size of the original.

And crit away! Constructive crits and practice are the main ways we improve :)

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 05:37:52 AM

Well, I head out to San Diego con in about an hour and half, its easier to just stay up at this point than to go to sleep. Its the big factor in my not having been able to go to the Gathering, so it had better be a good con this year, and not sucky like the last two... (Not that the con is really sucky, its just that I have to *WORK* there, which isn't nearly as much fun as just wandering around and buying stuff and watching videos and attending panels and stuff. Anyone else going that actually has half a clue who I am and gives a flip, I'm going to be manning the Antarctic Press booth pretty much the whole time.)

Dezi- As my entire job focuses on photoshop and pagemaker, and I just spent the last few hours working on it before San Diego con takes me away from work and into work for a week, I know a bit about it. Among the possibilities that usually occur here at AP...
-The photoshop files have extra layers or channels on them
-The photoshop image is not CMYK
-The photoshop image is not tiffed
-The photoshop image is not the right proportions.
-The potoshop image doesn't have the right file extension name
-pagemaker document is set for low resolution onscreen

But since you said its already proportioned and CMYK, best guess is its not TIFF format. Or there could be a memory conflict between Photoshop and pagemaker, both programs take up a lot of memory and have difficulty running at once.

Or, it could be an issue with a later version of photoshop. Photoshop 7.0 files have difficulty being read on Photoshop 4 or earlier for instance, and conflicts do arise.

Another possibility, when you place the images into pagemaker, it asks if you want a full resolution copy of the document in there. At that point, yu're supposed to say NO, so it just drops in a copy link of the image as opposed to the full detail image, because color pics are huge and beyong Pagemaker's capacity to handle.

Basically, pagemaker is a VERY finicky program and there's lots of things that can be wrong with it, you just have to experiment and figure out what the problem is.

Heather- Don't be a meanie in the CR. 8P That aside... Love you!

Also folks, sorry about the odd wipe times these last few... Uh, months, I guess. I've been working extremely busy the last few weeks to get sutff done before San Diego, and before that Akon, and my job just keeps me busy in general, and there have been points I honestly couldn't remember if it was Sunday or Wensday. Sorry bout that. There's like three other people that are supposed to wipe the room when I don't, but they've all been busy Gathering-like.

And for those of you that remember me, you know what my job is and why I've been so busy pre con. And since I haven't posted in so dang long, probably folks here who have no idea at all who I am. Well, I'm the original room admin and I haven't posted more than three things in here the last six months, mostly quick notes that someone famous had died. Ah well. I'd say I was gonna try and post more again, but that never seems to work.. Any event, I am constantly lurking... As is Wilek, I'm sure. RIGHT WILEK? ARE YOU OUT THERE WILEK? WE KNOW YOU'RE THERE WILEK, TALK TO US!

Aw geez, now I'm just rambling like an idiot. Or a jackass. Or something. Hrm. I should probably just be quiet now...

Heather- I'll say it again, love ya!

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 04:43:29 AM

Well, since we're -kinda- on the subject of photoshop, I'd like to throw out a question:
My newspaper is trying to go frontpage color this year, and getting it to work right has fallen on me. Today I tried to get pics I have taken and, instead of making them all black/white in photoshop, just made sure all of the tones and stuff are cool, and place them on the page, in the adobe pagemaker program we use. 1st question: Does anyone here know alot about pagemaker? 2nd: Does anyone have any tips to help me out or know why only the color pics would be all blurry with REALLY big pixels when placed on the page but crystal clear on photoshop. I have to have the pics all in 300 res., whatever size fits the newshole, and in cmyk color, oh yeah, and slightly over sharpened because the ink will bleed the image during print. All of this works out fine when i work with a b/w pic but screws around on color. Help?

Good job so far. :) (and numerous happies so as not to get pie or whatever thrown at me). I hope it picks up pretty well in the next couple of stories. So far it has been reasonably predictable, but then, what can you do; and the writers have to set the stage somewhere so why not the beginning. I just hope this Grail Quest has a neat twist coming up.
Pics: (constructive harmless criticism only :) ) Kathy- liked your pics on the first two, very clear and readable, drawn well, colored well to. :) For this latest, I can only say I wish it was a little bigger for all the little things that were going on. It took me a second to figure it out (of course it helped once my reading actually caught up with the pic). I know there are prolly file-size constraints and all that, but I had just wished it was a little bigger, thats all. (constructively and positively) If it was a little bigger, being the only pic, it wouldnt look so lonely all by itself in the story. :) :) :)
****************************END PENDRAGON******************
Heather: Aren't you worried that your mumurings and bellyaching might hurt your chances for the next round of picking, whenever that may be? That would be my biggest fear if I wanted to be on staff.

*ducks and covers*

Just finished watching Panic Room. *shrugs* eh. Did the dad die at the end, or was he just hurt really bad? Needed more resolution.
Wanna see pirate movie, wanna see pirate movie, wanna see pirate movie. :)


Wednesday, July 16, 2003 02:03:45 AM

heather>> i do remember that this is not the first such comment you have made, and you should please bear in mind that, when choosing staff members, the current staff must consider how an individual will work in the existing group - as well as the quality of their artwork. your thinly veiled jabs at the TGS art staff and subsequent feigned innocence really dont serve to endear you to us very much.
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 01:19:09 AM

Kathy:<<You might have unwittingly signed on for some service by taking a "free tour" of a website that asked you to prove your age of consent by giving a credit card (check card) number>> ::blinks:: ummmm.. no, haven't taken any "free tours" that asked me to proove my age of concent. Not that I have ANY idea what you're talking about. :)

I recently downloaded a little program called "Ad-aware" and it found and deleated 179 "Data Miners" in my cookies folder. Now I dont have all those little spyware popups appearing when someone in the CR mentions "Air travel" or "new computer."

Wednesday, July 16, 2003 01:00:54 AM

*sighs* Honestly, I am not dissing the artists. I understand that everyone is coming back and recooping from Gathering... I may not be as "pro" on these things like everyone because I am have been't "in the real world" but i understand that people have lives too.
I guess it is just that the big hipe of Pendragon got my hopes up...

Heather - []
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:10:34 AM

proper replies later...

Heather: more than half the TGS artists, myself included, are currently away from their art set-ups- ie, their computers. no photoshop for those of us who prefer to work in it, and no scanners for those of us who prefer to handwork their art. It is summer, which for many of us means travel time; for those of us in college, it is the only chance we have to visit friends and family.
and surprise, many of us consider this more important than the creation of art for this saga, no matter how much we love it.
Trust me, return of the school year will bring back the number of art pieces in the fics as the project artists alight home.

Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:24:41 PM

Karen B> Hope you got my e-mail. But again, I DO NOT have a problem with yours or any other artist's work. I'm envious that you got picked to work with TGS which has been my dream to do for years.
Like I said, "I was just a bit surprised" that it is only one picture that got up there. I would love to see more of Mary and Emrys (since only a few pieces even exist of the two together in a picture) or see any many chars that haven't even gotten an illustration for. Like Dorcas or Winston or the hatchlings of the Caledorian clan.
I would love to see characters that have been around but nobody hasn't drawn them. Yes they be minor characters but various writers put their days on end to make sure that these characters sound right by what the creator made them to be.

Heather - []
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:00:49 PM

Niamhgold> <<Guess I've got to make sure to make less than 22,100 a year>>: What if the overtime would take you over?

Andrea> <<Any advice?>>: Nope, that's about what I do, except for the occaisonal spurt of job locating activity or chores (@!$# weed whacker getting low on whack).

Spacebie> <<I prefer cereal because it�s easy to make>>: I respect laziness to, but I'd say it's a tendancy more than a preference.
<<Leda to Lita? Kind of simple>>: I can see where it came from, but I can't anyone applying Leda's fame (being raped by a swan, and mother of of the cause of the Trojan war (not to mention Castor and Pollux)) to that character.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - []
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:29:52 PM

Ok Heather, enough of the whinging and flamebating. If you have a problem with mine or any other TGS artists work then either come out and say it or e-mail me about it. My addy is there should you feel the need to use it.

Spacebabie: Thanks! :)

Karen B - []
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 06:22:28 PM

I wasn't critizing, Spacebabie. I was just a bit surprised. It has been a while since some of the stories have one pic in it. I remember the no pictures in story days, don't give me wrong, I guess we just got spoiled by the other artists that put their time into the project.

Anyway, don't be rude Spacebabie. Pendragon is my favorite series of the bunch so I try really hard not to critize it.

Heather - []
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 06:01:42 PM

Hmmm looks like the weather for the CR is fair to partially bitchy with a high percent chance of whine.

The Toilet is fixed…Woot. My brother fixed it although he did giggle over the instructions “Thread nut…huh huh huh” What a goofball.

Sigh there are so many good fics in the GFA Allaine, Princess, Wyrd sisters, Dylan, Christine, Carolyne Maria plus a new Pendragon story…so much goodies to read.

Which leads to…bam bam bam!

First of all I have not yet said it but I love the artwork by Karen Blackwell I love how she draws the characters.
I never really thought of them searching for the grail to cure Merlin a bit of surprise, but I should have known better. Still it was a pretty good conclusion.

Macbeth’s line to a young Merlin made me smile.

The parts where everyone is seeing their pasts have been done before in other genres but This was a good and unique take on it

***************SPOILERS END***************


Mandolin>>> great pics. Eeep Mara’s eyes are glowing in 18. Speaking of the number 18...that is how old Greg W looked in pic 20 pic 51...ah the Blue Mug a guest…uh huh huh huh I’m 69 with my Revy striking a Vinnie like pose. And OMG the last pic with all of us coming back from Astroland. Dylan looks scared, Patrick looks like Patrick. Greg’s eyes are strange and lordy! With my hair like that and eyes all red I look like I’m turning into Demona.

Heather<<<Actually that is my problem,>>>That is not your only problem.<<<WOW... You guys believe in one pic per story now…>>> So there had been a few stories without ANY pictures. Get over yourself.

Josh<<<God, you're blonde.>>>Well duh! <<<I can get discounts for OTHER people>>>Still not interested.

Leo<<<Some fudamentalist nizi parents didn't want their kid to be 'corrupted' by that movie >>>Corrupted??? WTF???

Gside<<<I guess that's forgiveable as you are a female.>>>I prefer cereal because it’s easy to make. Just pour it into a bowl…add milk and voila <<<I can't see anyone doing that.>>>Leda to Lita? Kind of simple<<<Not yet. Poking is rather standard>>>So it’s just Kin and not Kinky

Niahmgold<<<We may no longer get overtime:>>> aww man…HUG. Sorry to hear that.

Leo>>>Sorry to hear about your banking problems.

Spacebabie - []
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 05:39:19 PM

Leo > One other possibility > You might have unwittingly signed on for some service by taking a "free tour" of a website that asked you to prove your age of consent by giving a credit card (check card) number. What they only mention in fine print (if at all) is that from that point on they will bill you X number of dollars per month as a "membership fee". You must contact the company and ask them to cancel and refund fees you didn't agree to.
Good luck.

Tuesday, July 15, 2003 05:34:23 PM

Kathy: Re Bank of America

I have looked at my statemnts and it DOES appear that someone has STOLEN my card number. The "disputed" charge is followed by a "Foreign Currency Conversion Adjustment" charge of 94 cents from the same "mysterious place of business" And i just discovered a similar suspicious charge from that same businesss in last months statement (which arrived with my overdraft notice) for a similar amount of money AND a similar "Currency Adjustment" charge, at the same time of the month. I have put in two claims to BOA and am waiting on the forms I will have to fill out.

I have also asked Bank of America to freeze my check card.

That's about all I'm going to deal with for today. }:|


Tuesday, July 15, 2003 04:43:21 PM

ACK! I'm sorry that should have been LEO I was addressing not Niamhgold regarding Bank of America.

Tuesday, July 15, 2003 04:27:47 PM

Niamhgold > It could be that someone has gotten ahold of your account information and you're the victim of identity theft. The bank should be able to trace EXACTLY where the money went. To be on the safe side you should probably have a copy of your credit report pulled and checked to make sure someone's not living the high life on your nickle.

Andrea > You're over focused on yourself. Go volunteer some place preferably doing something with some outdoor activity attached - paint, garden, community clean up. Getting out will do you good and being among people even (sometimes especially strangers) will shake you out of your funk in a hurry.

I went to a minor league baseball game last night. Had a great time. I may never go back to the majors again.

Tuesday, July 15, 2003 04:25:08 PM

Niamhgold> EEK. That sucks. *once again thanks her stars for comp time and prays they won't go after that next*

Leo> Ugh. Ow. Okay, I'm going to add Bank of America to my list of banks not to give my life savings to (right along with M&T, aka Allfirst, who lost my friend's ENTIRE account for SEVEN MONTHS...)

Heather> Hey, the season's just kicking off, and circumstances sometimes make it hard.

Oh, and I tossed up a preliminary G2003 photo album. Will label pics later... (and I need some names for that last group shot!)

Mandolin - [<-- G2003 photos! will be labeled soon!]
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 03:15:22 PM

Sigh, I tried to fidgit with my site, and I think it's imporved a little, links are royal blue and are at the top (they turn yellow though, I had to keep that in there somwhere). It doesn't fit with the scheme as well as the yellow, but hey, it shows up.

Life sucks right now. I'm so darn lonely. My friend (whom I went to the gathering with) is on vacation (or, that's what her voicemail message said when I called her, but where she'd go I have no clue, since her and her boyfriend spend all their money on bills and rent), and none of my other friends are around. My friends online are never on, and the ones that are constantly have their away messages on. It's boring to have no one to talk to. I do the same 3 things all day; play video games, use the computer, and sleep. I occasionally watch TV, but nothing good's on when I have control. I sleep like 14 hours a day since it's the only way to pass time, and I'm too tired all the time (since nothing holds my attention and therefore moticate me to stay awake). Any advice? Sorry to complain about my personal problems, but I'm getting desperate.

That Matrix ping-pong thing was cool, and well done. I couln't tell the people in the black suits were even there until they came into the light...

Andrea - []
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 03:12:59 PM

Re: Matrix Ping-Pong

:::Tests the link I just gave:::Blinks::


Sorry about that. Try this one. :)

Leo - [<-take 2]
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:46:02 AM

DPH:<<Which logo on which page?>> The TGS logo on the "current episodes" page:

And now a bit of silliness:

"Matrix Ping-Pong"

Heheh, silly Japanese. :p

Leo - [<- Matrix Ping-Pong]
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:39:28 AM

Leo - <What happened to the logo?> Which logo on which page?
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:34:00 AM

Hey, guess what? We may no longer get overtime:
or click my name

::grumbles:: Even as an artist, I could be considered a "learned professional." Guess I've got to make sure to make less than 22,100 a year ;)

Tuesday, July 15, 2003 09:59:16 AM

VASHKODA - The reason why we occasionally call Arthur "the Once and Future King" is for the sake of variety; it gets monotonous if we only say "Arthur".

As for Mary's squiring - in the medieval period, one traditionally became a squire around the age of 14 or 15, which is how old Mary is at present. So she's the appropriate age for it.

Todd Jensen - []
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 08:47:37 AM

::Waves:: I can't even remember the last time I posted here. Anyways hi all!

Heather: Well, heh, one is better than nothing at all ;)
Actually this season of Pendragon is going pretty much the same way as previous seasons when it comes to pictures. Some have one, some have none and others can have up to four plus.

We're only on story number three in the new season so give it a chance to get rolling. That's all I'm asking. :)

That saying, kudos to both Ed and Todd for their stories so far :)

Karen B
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 08:41:38 AM

TGS: TmoE> (spoilers, obviously) Woohoo, that was fun and exciting! Old friends reunited, old histories revisited, and a new and dangerous threat (which thankfully did not hang around too long. I like how they weren't actually able to defeat it). After the skiff sank and they reached the monestary and all those grail references kept popping up, I thought, "Wow, they've reached their goal already?" (I should have known better). The transitions between all the different POV's was really well done. Things I am grateful for: 1) the skiff sank, 2) they're meeting up with the rest of the London group 3) they already figured out that it's the grail they're after. Things that were a little unnecessary: 1) having the narration refer to Arthur as the "Once and Future King". It's long and awkward and really shouldn't be used unless there's a point behind it. This isn't just a critique for this fic, but for the last two as well. 2) The knighting (squiring?) of Mary. I guess it's better than being a page, but for some reason I thought that squires were still quite young. Weren't men knighted in their teens back then? (considering the average life expectancy, you couldn't wait too long). How big is the age difference between Mary and Rory, for that matter? Well it's no big deal; just seems kind of thrown in for the sake of giving Mary a title. She's been in enough adventures with Arthur and Merlin that I'd think she's proven herself capable of joining their quest without making rank an issue. I guess Arthur does need someone to polish his sword now and then, though. Good thing he doesn't have a horse (which probably wouldn't let someone smelling like wolf handle it anyways). All in all, a very enjoyable read.
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 02:22:00 AM

TGS Pendragon... WOW... You guys believe in one pic per story now...

*grumbles about s omething but won't say because she doesn't want tobe a meanie*

Heather - []
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 01:51:12 AM

DPH (ADMIN):<<TGS proudly presents a Pendragon Season 4 Story . . . >>

::clicks the link::

What happened to the logo?

Tuesday, July 15, 2003 01:23:20 AM

*wonders about reconsidering his pic choice*

Warning: intermission violence against DC will occur while DPH is posting.

*spots DC's security team and opens blackholes to remove DC's security team; DC is nowhere in the TGS cr.*

*DPH activates new weapon #1: a digital version of his nephew, AH (I'll call him that to save time), which has ADHD and is given the power to follow DC around everywhere*

Ok, what's my status right now? It's going to take a few days for me to put things back on my pc. I'll do good to have everything back installed by the time next week's story is released.

Ok, so everybody probably wants to know why in heck my computer crashed? Easy answer: Gateway's Go Back Feature locked me out of my hard drive. I had to get things copied off of so I wouldn't lose lots of stuff: tgs related and otherwise.

*DC suddenly appears in the TGS CR to ask DPH to keep AH away from DC.*

*In response, DPH activates new weapon #2: a blackhole which will suck DC and only DC in. Everytime DC dies in the blackhole, the strength of blackhole doubles, resulting in DC being pulled in faster each time he dies*

*dph's security forces throw DC in the blackhole*

Where was I? Oh yea.

Right now, the only browser on my pc is Internet Explorer. That problem is at the top of my list of things to remedy. Anybody know where I can download a free version of AOL Instant Messenger? I've already got Yahoo Instant Messenger downloaded, but I like having both.

*DC rematerializes in the cr and dph's security team throws DC in the black hole. That's 2.*

Andrea - <I'm surprised no one has responded to my demand to see my new site layout> My computer has been down so I haven't had the opportunity since I had very limited time at the library to access the internet.

Speaking of the library, I found this interesting book: It was by Bill Gates and entitled: "The Road Ahead". What's interesting is the copyright year: 1995. I'm reading it for 2 reasons: 1)it'll be interesting to see how close the book was to where things are and 2)see how much he tries to portray Microshaft in a positive light.

*As DC rematerializes, dph's security team grabs DC in throws him in the black hole. That's 3 times. [I'll stop counting the number of times he goes in until I finish this post; needless to say, the black hole's pull on DC is getting much stronger: around the 30th-40th time he dies in the black hole, as soon as DC rematerializes, he'll start being pulled in the blackhole. By the 60th time, he dies in there, I'll be curious if it'll be possible for DC to materialize outside of the blackhole without being sucked in within microseconds.*

Flanker - You should be receiving email from the tgs staff pretty soon.

Fire Storm - <If LM hasn't responded to you, sorry, but she rarely gets time to go on-line. I just happen to have way too much of it at work.> Interesting.

Ok, I'm looking for some gargoyles fan-fic where either Demona is a hero (no, I don't consider Demona to be a hero in every story she appears in) while being consistent with her established character.

Tuesday, July 15, 2003 01:07:45 AM

Oh! New story to read! I'll get on that soon!

Gside-Yeah, I know about the link color issue. I'm trying to find a good color balance and good spot for the links so they all show up okay. As for the scrollers, they SHOULD be just right if you're viewing in 1024x768 (I spent 3 hours just trying to define that DIV layer so it's in the right position). I wouldn't know for sure about any brower issues, as I only use Internet Explorer. Netscape sucks monkey bum, and I haven't tried Mozilla or Opera or any of those other ones.

But thanks for the feedback. Often times there are issues that I can't see, and therefore need someone to clue me in.

Andrea - []
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 01:02:43 AM

TGS proudly presents a Pendragon Season 4 Story . . .

The Mists of Eynhallow

Outline by Ed Reynolds

Written by Ed Reynolds

Original Artwork by Karen Blackwell

Click my name, click the link at the top of the cr that says "Current Episode", or visit to read the story.

Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:05:50 AM

Odd question: What did they say in olden days when they wanted to say something like "He needs that like a fish needs a bicycle"?

Spacebabie> <<I don�t eat a lot of Breakfast meats since I�m more of a cereal person>>: I guess that's forgiveable as you are a female.
<<I had always wondered if Leda was the inspiration for Sailor Jupiter�s dub name>>: I can't see anyone doing that.
<<Oooh kinky>>: Not yet. Poking is rather standard.

Andrea> <<I bet no one's even looked yet>>: I looked at it, but didn't bother too far in, as I like my Mozilla. But the Yellow links aren't too good on the pale parts of the background, and the scroll down mouse over is too low in the frame. Or that's just a browser issue that you've decided you don't care about, which I don't blame you for (beyond using things specific to browsers).

Imzadi> <<because your hands (and therefore the trackpad) would have to be shifted to left of the top case>>: I'm sure some people would suffer that for a numpad.

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - []
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, July 14, 2003 11:27:58 PM

Leo: Yes, I can get you about 15% off through my employee discount. I only get 3 such discounts, but frankly no one else has claimed it and the odds I'll still be around at the end of the summer are low.

As for the 17" powerbook, it would be retarded to have a full size keyboard because your hands (and therefore the trackpad) would have to be shifted to left of the top case. Then the screen wouldn't be in front of you. In desktop keyboards, you can shift them around so that the screen and keyboard and mouse are at optimal positions. Doesn't work that way for a laptop.

Monday, July 14, 2003 11:03:25 PM

Oh yea, DC, I'm coming for *you*. Maybe not before I go to bed, I'm coming for you. And when I do, *DPH cracks an evil grin* you're going down.
Monday, July 14, 2003 10:50:52 PM

Todd - You can *STOP* you're worrying *NOW*!
Monday, July 14, 2003 10:31:29 PM

:::::Rant Warning::::

LYING SON OF A G@D D^$# SH!TTY A$$ RAT F^@&IN' "BITCH OF AMERICA" BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! }>:( !!!!!!!!

I got another f'ing overdraft notice from my bank today telling me that.. "On 07/10/03, there were not enough funds in your account to cover all of the items presented for payment... ""...Your balance on the date listed above was -xx.xx This balance includes any items that were paid; however it does not cover any overdraft fees."

That's not possible!!!! I haven't used that check card (or that accoint for that matter)in over a month. But the bank says that $45 was charged to that account last thursday. This happend to me once alerady before I went to G2003. from the info the bank provided last time (and the $19 charge) I was convinced that it was from an auto-renewal of "cunsumer reports" It couldn't be the case this time because no magazine I subscribe to has a $45 subscription renewal!!!!! (Which now makes me second guess the last incident.) After I settle this BS tomorrow I will be closing my account with Bank of America forever. I will never do buisness with them again!!!!!!

:::::END RANT::::

Spacebabie:<<Excalibur…that was the movie they showed in my 12th grade English class>> Some fudamentalist nizi parents didn't want their kid to be 'corrupted' by that movie so we got to watch "Camelot" (yes, the musical) instead.

Josh:<<I was implying that I can get discounts for OTHER people.>> Can you get me a good deal on a 15" Powerbook? And can you tell me why they didn't go for something closer to a full size keyboard on the 17" instead of wasting all that space for two wussy speakers?

Monday, July 14, 2003 09:46:11 PM

My gathering jounal is up at Ask Greg. I was going to put it on my site, but decided not to just yet, I'm too lazy to upload it right now.

Btw, I'm surprised no one has responded to my demand to see my new site layout...I bet no one's even looked yet. If you haven't, please do. The reason I made the demand is because I wanted you all to see the GARGOYLES layout. Maybe it'll suck people into the series and come to more gatherings...

Andrea - []
Monday, July 14, 2003 09:18:56 PM

Spacebabie: God, you're blonde. I was implying that I can get discounts for OTHER people.
Monday, July 14, 2003 08:32:24 PM

VASHKODA - Ah, I see what you mean. And, no, the wolves incident wasn't an excuse to get the Battle of Badon mentioned. Rather, I just thought that it would be amusing if some other wolves started responding to Mary's being a werewolf, and doing so even while she was in human form. It would particularly help to lighten the mood a little, given how much serious matters we had going on. (The bit about Merlin and Mary seeing "The Sword in the Stone" on a date and Merlin regretting it because he found the movie's portrayal of him humiliating was another.)

And we should release the next story tonight (currently, Pendragon stories will be premiering on Tuesdays).

Todd Jensen - []
St. Louis, MO
Monday, July 14, 2003 07:23:43 PM

Todd> Sure thing. I was referring to the "Battle of Mount Badon" that Merlin mentioned to Mary while they discussed Odin and the wolves.

So where's the next fic, eh? *pokes the staff*

Monday, July 14, 2003 07:02:57 PM

VASHKODA - Um, could you explain the bit about the "ancient battle" in your comment on the Mary meeting Odin's wolves scene? Because I didn't understand it at all.
Todd Jensen - []
St. Louis, MO
Monday, July 14, 2003 06:40:42 PM

:: Zips in and posts a note on the comment room wall. The note reads: ::

Thank you to all the Gargoyle fans for a great convention in New York.

G2003 Staff
Monday, July 14, 2003 04:37:46 PM

Spacebabie> Actually that is my problem, I think too fast of what I'm going to say but my mouth or hands can't keep up and mess it up.
Heather - []
Warner Robins, GA, USA
Monday, July 14, 2003 03:47:30 PM

I am selling my collection of gargoyle merchandise. I have over 100 items. Will sell all or by the piece. Email me if your interested.
mrs g - []
nj, usa
Monday, July 14, 2003 03:40:18 PM

What a strange day yesterday was. My father and I tried to refill the ink cartridge. It was a success, but we got ink on our hands and it doesn’t wash off easily.

I typed up a few résumé’s and cover letters for him.

Another bad thing that has happened. My toilet is broken! Well the flusher is broken I have to lift the lid off the tank and pull at the chain to get the toilet to flush…FUN.

On a more happier note I just uploaded another fic to the GFA and my site.


Heather<<<Do you remember a tv movie called Merlin? Sam Neill as Merlin and Martin sHort was in it as Maeve's servant Flik?>>>Never saw it. The best King Arthur movie I have seen was Excalibur…that was the movie they showed in my 12th grade English class.<<<Hush you. I said it right in my mind>>>Hey don’t get on his case because he pointed out your typo.

Gside<<<And what's wrong with a discussion on breakfast meats?>>>Nothing…I don’t eat a lot of Breakfast meats since I’m more of a cereal person…don’t get me wrong I LOVE pancakes and enjoy a few strips of nuked turkey bacon to go with it. <<<Mmm... Leda…>>>I had always wondered if Leda was the inspiration for Sailor Jupiter’s dub name.

Patrick<<<Now on to fanfic!>>>Reading or writing?<<<Don't watch "Star Wars: Episode II" immediately after watching "Moulin Rouge" unless you find it amusing to imagine that Obi Wan may burst into "Your Song" at any moment.>>> Too late..although it’s sometimes Stars before Moulin Rouge. Doesn’t faze me at all…sigh I just love sessy Scotsman who can sing and carry around a big light saber

Warpmind<<<I have eerie Matty Watson flashbacks here…>>>not me… Lex is gay, not Brooklyn.

Christine>>>Thanks for doubling my pleasure with those yummy fics.
Firestorm<<<Don't feel like talking now... too bored>>>There are new stories by Princess Alexandria, Allaine and yours truly to fill the void.

Mooncat<<<pickles.... mmm.... have had great pickle craving lately>>> that could be read as a double entendre<<<For the thick, lengthwise cut ones that can be put on sandwiches.>>>They do that at Steak and Shake!

Josh<<<I get a pretty sizeable discount on macs >>>That’s nice dear. Since I don’t get a discount I can do without.

Bud Claire<<<pokes Josh>>>Oooh kinky

Spacebabie - []
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Monday, July 14, 2003 03:21:30 PM

Just a quick pop in to ask a favor.

Anyone who has an archived copy of the Post G2003 comment room (the one from two wipes ago) please contact me at my email address.

Thank you.

Kaioto - []
Boston, MA, USA
Monday, July 14, 2003 03:14:40 PM

I saw League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, didn't manage to get to Pirates of the Carribean. On the whole I liked "League", though the use of the Nataulis was a disaster. There's no way that a ship that big could have fit either in the Thames or the canals of Venice. Also, it kept changing size. Whoever did the animation should be collectively spanked. Good chemistry between all the actors and they left it wide open for a sequal with or without Sean Connery. Neat.

I had my 3rd near miss with lightning on Sunday. This time the strike was a comfortable 40 feet away. Still unnerving though.

Mooncat > Yep to the several chickens stowed for later. Immediate use was chicken curry and poached chicken for salads, sandwiches, etc.

I just wanted to add I'm enjoying reading everybodies' Gathering Journals. Having them posted at Ask Greg is a convenient central location. Though it occurs to me that the Gathering Website would be an even better place. Kind of a scrapbook of the event as it were.

Monday, July 14, 2003 02:30:22 PM

10th, in the name of love!

HBO viewing tip: Don't watch "Star Wars: Episode II" immediately after watching "Moulin Rouge" unless you find it amusing to imagine that Obi Wan may burst into "Your Song" at any moment.

:: heads off to the cubes ::

Monday, July 14, 2003 07:00:23 AM

Ninth in the name of SPOON!
Stephen R. Sobotka Jr.
Tampa, FL, USA
Monday, July 14, 2003 05:15:36 AM

Eighth. *yawns* Probably.
Bud-Clare - []
Monday, July 14, 2003 03:40:21 AM

Just thought I'd pop in before I went to sleep.

I saw LXG and I will agree with the critics who say that more story and character development was needed, but other than that I enjoyed it. I thought it was very inventive and I loved the Vampire. GROWL!

Pendragon ep.- Looks like a great start. It's nice to have something to look forward too after a stressful day.


Jaden - []
Monday, July 14, 2003 02:25:53 AM

Na zdorov'ya.

Gside - []
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, July 14, 2003 01:57:08 AM

Fire Storm & Lady Mystic
Monday, July 14, 2003 01:49:46 AM

Hey someone in the TGS staff email me and tell me what my sign in name is. I am retarded.
Flanker - []
Monday, July 14, 2003 01:14:29 AM

Monday, July 14, 2003 01:13:11 AM

Ah, there's the wipe. Well on to part two of my post:

TGS: RtA> (spoilers, I suppose, though everyone's probably read the fic by now) I remember rumors that Arthur would be going after the rest of the 13 treaures this season. Now it seems like he's going after the holy grail, though he hasn't figured it out yet. I'm a little surprised, since from the end of this ep, it seems the four main characters are going on another series of Avalon World Tours. I thought the treasures would be scattered around the U.K., not the world. And I thought the Holy Grail was at Castle Carbonek (assuming the staff follows Greg's plan here), which is a singular location, not something that requires them going all over the world to find (though I'm reminded of a cerain Duck Tales arc that required the group to travel to three distant locations to put together the map to some aztec treasure temple). I'm a little disappointed to see the cast being limited to Arthur, Merlin, Mary and Griff again. I hope someone else joins them on the skiff soon, just so we might some interesting tension develop between the characters. I liked Arthur's discussion with Titania--it was a nice, succinct summary of his situation (his problem didn't seem like that big a deal in the first fic. I felt a little more sympathey towards him here). I'm not sure what the part with the wolves was about, except maybe just the joke about Mary being in heat (or maybe Todd couldn't resist plugging in a reference to another ancient battle. I'm not criticizing you, Todd--I just find it amusing). ;) I still don't get how everyone knows so much about this 'mysterious poison' when none of them seem to understand it. How do they know Merlin will resist it for a year? How does Oberon know it's strong enough to wipe out all life on the planet? How does he know only a single dose was made? How does he recognize it as a venom, and if he does, shouldn't he have a clue as to what kind of animal produced it? Anyways, a good start to the season so far. I'm looking forward to the next one.

Monday, July 14, 2003 01:06:27 AM

Monday, July 14, 2003 12:33:34 AM