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Wow, I learned something yesterday. I can make some of the ugliest clay slab boxes and my instructor loves them. Oh well more christmas presents to give away, which is always good when you are a poor art student.

I wish it was December already.

*Small promo that Josh will probably find nausiating**

Well, this should come as no surprise to those of us who have been a part of the fandom for a few years now, but what often happens when one of the couple has the ability to draw they usually "Gargify" themselves. This ususally involves taking your handle persona and creating a gargoyle out of it. So yeah in short I drew ones for Spacebabie and I. They are in my Sci-fi and Gargoyles section on my site if anyone wants to look.
**end**

Andrea- Our dorms use to have brown outs allt he time too till they put in new generators. Of course other problems include old air units that burn up and set fire alarms off at 1:30 in the morning

Bud-Clare-<> Once my mother forgot a bag of potatoes and they had all manated to grow roots and it looked liek a little tentecle monster in a bag.

Greymonk- garbae strikes suck

Spacebabie- Apples and cheese oO never tried that. <<Can I rent the Superman?>> need to find blue spandex and cape.
*smooooch*

Wonder where Josh is anyhow?

Green Barron- no, Louisiana would have to be on pylons to rise above texas... oh wait you didn't mean litterally.

"Where's my brain."
-how many times have I said this... the world may never know-
Revel - [samrx5@cs.com]
denton, tx
Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:47:54 PM
IP: 129.120.169.116

Hey all! I'm back after a bit. Life is okay right now, I went home for the holiday weekend, and now I'm back! It felt weird to be home now, because After living in school for 6 weeks, it sorta has become home for me...

I must be nuts, I am up and it's 5:30 am. WHy? I have been up since 3:30 ish, unable to sleep (I went to bed around 1:45, like usual for me) due to this auful creaking sound plus I'm really hot. SO I go into the bathroom to splash some cold water on my face, and try to go back to sleep. I find out WHERE that insane creeking sound is comming from. It's windy out, and my idiot neighbor (not the cool ones who are yankees fans), left her window open, and it's causing the door to bang. Even the name poster on the door nearby and blowing due to the high winds. Don't know how the hell she can sleep, cause I certaintly can't!

I'm kinda glad I chose to hit the bathroom the minute I did, because the flight flickered in the halway (the halway lights are always on for safety. Thought it isnt' very safe when there is no power, there are NO emergengy lights, and NO sprinklers, and it's a wood building..yeah, REAL safe, eh?). Yep, for a few seconds, the power was out, long enough for my clock to reset. It happened like two weeks ago too, my clock didn't re-set (the power was off for a slip second), but long enough to shut off my computer in the middle of saving something. They should get a back up generator...to have lights in the hall and stairway when the power goes out (it's PITCH BLACK on the stairs when it does. The power had gone out WAY too often, even though all but one time it was only out for a few seconds, that's still too often for me. The power shouldn't go out 5 times in a month at random times.

I ave to leave for class in like 5 hours, and I'm not really gonna bother going back to bed right now. Maybe staying up a bit will force me to become too tired to stay awake...
Andrea - [takarifreak@dark-stars.net]
Wednesday, October 15, 2003 05:40:29 AM
IP: 130.111.154.169

Gside> <<Any interesting lif forms, or just the usual inching slime?>>
Just some fuzz in a variety of colors. I did find out though that green olives really do go bad.

<<Consider yourself consigned to the firey pits of the netherworld. Have fun.>>
I think I've got a "Get Out of Hell Free" card... It was supposed to be a group project, but I was sadly lacking in a group. I think that entitles me to another day. And the teacher had damn well better agree with me...

<<Now to get it so you don't need the sleep deprivation.>>
Oh, I can already. It's just a different kind of maniacal laughter. There are many subtle shades, each with its own charm...
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Spacebabie> <<Mostly by Mary Sue authors who consider Constructive Criticism to be a flame.>>
*L* No, they consider constructive criticism to be something like "You rock!!!!11" ;)

<>
What color?

<<Can’t wait to see Envy, Lust, and Gluttony>>
I'm a glutton for cheese, I lust after cheese, and I envy other people's cheese? So, still stuck on the last topic. ;)
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, October 15, 2003 04:43:30 AM
IP: 66.67.201.63

Graymonk> <<Who'd've thought a bunch of unkempt, unhygenic art students would be the the cleanest student body and faculty in all of New Brunswick?>>: Not I. I would have voted for one of the recent social sciences. Engineers break too many things, history people collect too many old dusty things, and I'd have thought artists fling paint everywhere.

Sean> <<when does the message board change?>>: Whenever whoever's in charge of the thing remembers it should be done. It used to be quite regularly Saturday Midnight, but things have laxed since then.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:21:42 PM
IP: 68.37.159.199

i've got a ques thats been bugging me, and its good for killing another 3 lines, when does the message board change? it seems to be a different day each week....
(just started garg season1, very good, now i wish i hadn't read time dancer first, it would be so much better after... just finished partnership)
wee
Sean
Tuesday, October 14, 2003 09:38:49 PM
IP: 207.6.149.113

Graymonk: I don’t think we ever intended the New Camelot idea to be resolve on Arthur’s part so much as a general notion of what he might do. The big question (which we’ll be coming to shortly) is “how?” since a traditional New Camelot seems quite impractical at this stage. But I can see that if you read it as a resolution it does undercut “Doomed” so sorry about that. Incidentally, I hope you get your computer building back soon. Your reviews are always a fascinating read.
Ed
Cambridge, England
Tuesday, October 14, 2003 05:20:05 PM
IP: 131.111.8.103

Yow! I'm sorry to hear about that, Graymonk. I hope that that strike gets resolved soon.
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, October 14, 2003 07:25:52 AM
IP: 171.75.194.51

*Graymonk scuttles in wearing a disguise*

I'm posting incognito cuz I just found a computer lab in my building but I'm not sure if I'm allowed in.
Todd - The custodians at my college are on strike, have been for over a week. Nearly every campus in the New Brunswick Community College network has been closed down as a result. My building's one of the few facilities clean enough to remain open. Who'd've thought a bunch of unkempt, unhygenic art students would be the the cleanest student body and faculty in all of New Brunswick? :)

I'm hoping to get to the new Pen story sometime later this week after my Art History exam and Design and Colour project presentation. Who knows, if this lab is open to Art Fundamental students I might be able to post a review, assuming we're not shut down by then.

Looking forward to seeing the other picture for Fata Morgana!
Graymonk
Tuesday, October 14, 2003 07:15:50 AM
IP: 198.164.140.194

TGS proudly presents a Pendragon Season 4 story . .

Black and White

Written by Todd Jensen

Outline by Ed Reynolds

Artwork by Silver and Lady Foxglove

Click my name, go to the link at the top of the cr that says "Current Episode", or visit http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/ce.html to read this week's story.

*scurries off to finish programming assignment*
DPH - [<--Click here to read this week's story]
AR, USA
Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:04:46 AM
IP: 204.94.193.77

Well, I was finally removed from the RU marching band mailing list. That's about four years since my last season with them.

Leo> <<For c = 1 to 16>>: How's that randomized?

Bud Clare> <>: Any interesting lif forms, or just the usual inching slime?
<<And damn me for procrastinating again>>: Consider yourself consigned to the firey pits of the netherworld. Have fun.
<<runs from the room cackling with the maniacal laughter of the sleep deprived>>: Excellent. Now to get it so you don't need the sleep deprivation.

Spacebabie> <<and then taken some Tylenol over>>: Only if it became the straw the broke the brain's back.
<>: Feh, you need some real cheese. A nice three year old cheddar.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, October 13, 2003 11:21:27 PM
IP: 68.37.159.199

Bleh,

Workshopped on my art book last thrusday and I’m up for workshop in my non fic class.
Been tweaking both art books before they get their final grade.

Also been working on fan fic, It’s kind of Pendragonish, considering it has Rory, Griff, Arthur, and Merlin
Ol Alphonse Mystic and Rusty from “Under the Big Top” will be making an appearance and old Alphonse aint so pretty anymore.

**********Smallish ER spoilers*****
The best lines in the whole episode was Carrie telling Romano he was her bitch and
“That man’s balls are as big as my head.”
****End SPOILERS********
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Todd<<<Yep, it did come out a bit "Indiana Jones-ish">>> I have no problem. I like the “Indy” movies. I have a feeling Arthur and Griff would too.<<<male werecheetahs must have had such a small role in any past Sekhmet stories>>>I do remember one that was kind of whiny.

Dezi<<<Attilla use a male werecheetah as his pic? If so, then that means we have a drawing of one, and it was prolly used in a story.>>> I think so to. We need a posting from the naughty kitten.<<<mom just called me to tell me that her dog, my dog's mom, had a stroke last nite>>>Oh no! I know what it’s like when a dog gets realy old. My cocker spaniel lived to 15 and her last few months were not cozy.

Gside<<<It is not to be feared, just figured out, then passed over>>>and then taken some Tylenol over.

Bud Claire<<<Or ridiculed, when it's used to write fanfic>>> Mostly by Mary Sue authors who consider Constructive Criticism to be a flame.<<<Or maybe just... more cheese? Cheese, with a side of cheese>>>My brother’s idea of a meal. I love apples slices wrapped in Kraft singles.

Aaron<<<I'd have voted for him>>>I have a feeling old Larry didn’t vote for himself though. I wouldn’t be surprised if his vote went to the porn star.

Firestorm<<<No! Do tell!>>>Family Wiconsin turned off their cell phone and set it down, and then it combusted. <<<What would happen if I turned the tables on them? If *I* started to eat them?>>>WARNING *channeling my father’s bad humor* Wouldn’t they taste funny? ::ducks:::

Ed<<<often this season of our villains represented one or other of the seven deadly sins. Lucius’ sin is pride, Montrose’s is avarice, Sekhmet’s is sloth and Morgana’s is wrath.>>> Can’t wait to see Envy, Lust, and Gluttony

DPH<<<new logos for its website>>>And they look spiff

Lain<<<OH MY GAWD, the evil old snotrag has her own website>>>Who?

Leo<<<specifically the font. IMO I don't think a "script" font is appropriate>>>I think it works.<<<I't looked kinda cool in "GAWAIN" - a quasi LOTR font.>>>Wouldn’t GAWAIN be more suited for Pendragon?
Question<<<Why is the Pendragon Logo purple>>>Cause ice cream has no bones.

DPH<<>>He’s rentable? Can I rent the Superman?

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Monday, October 13, 2003 05:11:36 PM
IP: 4.72.73.130

And Lo, there was screwing off, and it was Bad.

Don't mind me...

(You know why they're called "deadlines"? To freak me out. Now you know.)

*runs from the room cackling with the maniacal laughter of the sleep deprived*
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Monday, October 13, 2003 01:20:06 PM
IP: 66.67.201.63

GRAYMONK - I'm sorry to hear about you not being able to review any more TGS episodes for a while, since you gave some of the most enjoyable reviews that I've seen here; they were perhaps the most in-depth and literate ones that I've read in this comment room, in fact. (I know that we've had fewer reviews than I was hoping for, though since "Pendragon" focuses on relatively minor characters in "Gargoyles" rather than the Manhattan clan, I probably shouldn't be that surprised.) Incidentally, what did cause the building with the computer labs to close (I must have missed that part in your previous posts)? Budget cut-backs?

The bit about Griff versus Polyphemus's skeleton was actually inspired by the earliest legends about griffons (in Herodotus, I believe); these portrayed griffons as fighting against a race of one-eyed men called Arimaspians. I thought that it would be amusing to pit Griff against a cyclops-like creature as a result at some point, and since many classical authors had set Odysseus's encounter with Polyphemus in Sicily, I decided to work that bit in. (If we hadn't been able to do a story with a Sicilian setting, of course, I'd have chosen as a back-up plan to have Arthur and Co. wind up in New Olympus and have Griff get into a fight with Proteus in his cyclops form. :))

I had some fun with Mordred and Corbie as Arthur and Mary's adversaries, based on the notion that what happens to you in the microcosm reflects your own life (and particularly who your adversaries are). I have a theory that if Elisa had been trapped in that microcosm with them that Mordred's attack on the castle would have been assisted by a local bandit leader named Antonio Dracon whose second in command would be a Moor wearing spectacles.

(And I rather wanted Corbie to make a return appearance because I realized that we'd never given her and Mary a proper confrontation at the end of "Dark Passions" and thought that we should remedy that. In fact, we had a second picture planned for the story of Mary and Corbie going at each other with swords, but we weren't able to get it finished in time. The artist's still working on it, though, and hopefully you'll get to see it soon - the rough draft looks great.)

At any rate, I'm going to miss your reviews, and look forward to the day when you'll be able to return regularly.
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 13, 2003 09:10:39 AM
IP: 171.75.194.27

Well, My school's closed, except for the building I'm in. That's still open so I've got to go back today. Sadly, the compouter labs were all in the other building on campus, the one that's now closed, so it looks like I won't be able to read or review any TGS for a while. Shazbot! SHAZBOT! SHAZBOT! SHAZBOT!!!

**********spoilers or FATA MORGANA and DOOMED***************

"Fata Morgana" - As I said earlier, I thought this was a terrific story. There were only one or two points that marred it. First of all, it seemed awfly convenient that Morgana just happened to have a cave in Sicily. Some mention of the Fata Morgana legend might have been nice. Merlin saying something like "Of course, I should have known she'd be here, there's this legend called the Fata Morgana..." Secondly, the battle between Griff and the Cyclops skeleton didn't have much of a sense of jeapordy, it felt like it was just there (although I did like the incorporation of "The Odyssey" into the story). finally I second the complaint that Merlin being taken by surprise because he was gawking at Mary is a bit too silly. Yes, guys like watching two beatiful women fight but not to the point where we'll totally drop our guard in a room with a deranged psychopath who wants us really, really, dead.

That being said the rest of the story was just marvelous. I'm glad Morgana made an attempt to finnish Merlin off now rather than waiting around. Although lying back and letting Merlin die is a strategy consistent with the schism between her Morgana Cornish/Morgana le Fey personalities it does make Morg look a lottle silly if she doesn't make any attempt to stop them. Especially when she knows they're out looking for the Holy Grail. The explanation about why she hasn't done so already was reasonable and made a lot of sense.

I got a kick out of the snowglobe world setting. The history of the Templars was interesting. I studied them in my Occult and Alternative Religions course and I tend to agree with Merlin's view that they were nothing more than a religious order. The name Blachlefleur caught my eye. I wonder if the snowglobe world will turn out to be based on true events and Blanche was the one to flee with the grail.

Of course there's little chance of Mordred having been part of the historical events. Good thing too, Arthur has gone into battle with Mordred's shade twice and barely made it out alive both times. I have to admit I love it when Mordred shows up. There's a certain sense of doom when he's on stage. I generally prefer a more sympathetic Mordred ala "The Wicked Day," but Todd's honourless scum interpretation has grown on me. He strikes me as sort of a cross between "Camelot"'s cunning bastard and "Excalibur"'s inhuman engine of death. This doesn't mean I want Mordred showing up regularly though. Just the opposite in fact, Mordred's appearances are so enjoyable because they're so rare. He's to PENDRAGON what the Borg were to TNG; a terrifying Ubervillan who would lose they're impact if they appeared in more than one story for every two seasons.

Speaking of villains, Morrigan was a welcome surprise. I really like Corbie and was glad to have her back. One of the reasons I didn't care much for TIMEDANCER's last season was the implication that she'd been trapped on Avalon for the intervening hundred and a half years. Glad to have her back, even if it's in mystic snowglobe form.

As to the subject of Arthur and Mary having a surrogate father/daughter relationship, I have no problem with it, at least on Arthur's side. This is a man who could never have children with his own wife and was forced to kill his only son. If he's never been able to play the role of father before why wouldn't he at at least unconciously welcome a chance to do it now? Unlike his past squires he is in almost constant contact with Mary. Furthermore he already feels responsible for bringing her into this world against her will, taking a parental view of her doesn't seem to be that big a leap.

Also dealing with character relationships this story finally sold me on the current main cast. I've been rather vocal in my complaints that Dulci, Rory and Leba don't get much attention but this story helped me realise that all four of our main cast are linked thematicall, they have all been pulled against their will into a world they do not understand but have to be a part of; Merlin and adolescence, Mary and the paranormal world of Gargoyles, Arthur and Griff and a new time period. i'd never noticed that until now. Very clever of you Todd and Ed. (That doesn't mean I don't want to know Dulcinea's origin or how Leba is doing with the Vampyres though).

A quick side note, I was surprised to learn Arthur hasn't worn his armour since season one. I always assumed he wore it under a trench coat when he went on a mission that might involve extraordinary threats.

Another side note, I loved the exchange between Griff and Morgana about Mordred and Gorlois's Gargoyles pogroms.

One more side note, silver did a great job on the art. I know from experience Arthur's armour is a collossal raging blood covered warbitch to draw but he/she did a great job, Mary didn't look half bad either.

Finally, I was overjoyed by the end of "Fata" when Arthur resolved to create a new Camelot for our modern era. It seemed like I'd finally seen the end of the Arthur moping about his place in life and from now on he was going to take a more active role and actively pursue a new role for himself.

And then "Doomed" came along. While I understand Arthur's malaise fit in well with the theme of the story but coming on the heels of "Fata" it seemed to undercut Arthur's renewed resolve. It idin't help matters that Arthur seemed to play Watson to Griff's Sherlock Holmes for most of the story. At various points the duo ran into some sort of obstacle or puzzle that Arthur was completely baffled by but which Griff solved fairly quickly. This made Arthur seem too passive. It also struck me as a strange reversal of the episode "Pendragon" where Arthur was the one to solve a number of the mysteries.

As others have mentioned the story moved rather slowly, not getting into the action of the story until about two thirds of the way thorugh. Finally, I found it hard to believe the cabbie though Griff was only wearing a mask.

That doesn't mean this wasn't an entertaining story. The adventure in the pyramid moved at a good clip and I liked the reference to that Jason and the Argonauts movie. I found the description of the lead skeleton quite intriguing, pitty there was no picture of him.

And while I made a big deal about Lucius being played for laughs I have no objection to Sehkmet's depression. First of all she's more of a TIMEDANCER villain than PENDRAGON so the long term impact on this series is minimal. Secondly TD season 4 had a story in which Sehkmet had become neutral and had not interest in the Unsilee any more, it was nice to see the origins of that attitude.

The final scenes of each story showing each character quietly dealing with the the aftermath of their adventure was quite touching.

Let's call the story 7 really cool looking templar master skeletons out of ten.

***********spoilers end*******************

Ed - <<stay tuned to see if we manage to get envy, gluttony and lust in!>> Well envy seems to be a major component of William Powell, so that shouldn't be too hard to work in, not sure about the others though (maybe a time traveling Nicholas Hawkins for lust?)
Graymonk
Monday, October 13, 2003 08:57:22 AM
IP: 156.34.236.127

Fire Storm> <>
Nope. Eat away.
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Gside> <<But think of what else could be found.>>
I'll pass. I went through enough trauma today while cleaning out my fridge.

<<Which is essentially all that counts.>>
Apparently so, since I'm back again. Cursed project. And damn me for procrastinating again.

<<Indigestion from the red honky noses.>>
They can be spit out.
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DPH> <<Because *purple* is the name that you have been trained to associate with that particular color. >>
Thank you.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Monday, October 13, 2003 05:42:16 AM
IP: 66.67.201.63

Hey everyone! I've got a political science final and a photo presentation this week so wish me luck.

Dezi- I hope you get better soon. I had a hell of a cold last week and I still have to damn cough which will not die.

Patrick- Those two actually got over a thousand votes I think (of course the porn star did too).

Fire Storm- You get clowns? I get monkeys, they are so loud and won't shut up. Mean suckers too!

Green Baron- Kimchee is an interesting experience no doubt. Smelled strange to me at first.

Yawn.
Later.
Jaden - [jaden1444@aol.com]
Monday, October 13, 2003 02:54:24 AM
IP: 4.3.65.30

Greetings and Happy Columbus Day, and Happy Thanksgiving to all the Canadians here. The day is not mentioned much these days, but it's a four day weekend for me, so I'm happy.

I spent Saturday in Seoul and saw a nice fireworks show.

Jaden> There are Katusa snack bars which are fairly good, and I like kimchee, but that stuff lights a fire in me, without a doubt.

No phone line yet, but I'll get it in in a few weeks and then internet so I won't have to use Cybertopia until I am getting ready to leave in January of 2005.

Leo> I'd love to see that American born requirement for President dissolved through Constitutional Ammendment, as it really has no importance in this day and age. Sure, back in 1795, it had a use, but not today.

I'm glad Arnold won, and I hope this leads to Barbara Boxer returning to SanFrancisco in 2005.

Louisiana had its primary for Governor, and we may now be more progressive than Mississippi and Arkansas. Our two choices for Governor are Bobby Jindal, a Republican son of Indian immigrants and Kathleen Blanco, former Lt Governor and reasonably moderate-conservative Democrat. This is a vast improvement over the 1991 runoff giving us a choice of David Duke or Edwin Edwards, and right now both Duke and Edwards are in jail where they belong :)

Louisiana could one day rise above Texas and Tennessee :)

Patrick> <<What's the big deal? It's not like California's never had an actor who became governor before. His name was Ronald Reagan, and he went on to serve two terms as President.>>

A lot of comparisons. Ahnold terminated Gray Davis, who is slightly more popular than a route canal, and Reagan beat Jerry Brown's father, who was about as dynamic as Davis.

Of course Reagan beat Jimmy Carter and Walter Mondale, but beating Walter Mondale is not much of an achievement. It's like beating a snail in a 5K race :)

Of course yoru own state has Jerry Springer talk about running for Office every few years :) Though the biggest joke in your area is still Dennis Kucinich :)

Dezi> I'll have to show you an editorial by Andrew Sullivan essentially calling Ann Coulter a right-wing version of Michael Moore, only Ann Coulter is a lot better looking.

Aaron> Larry Flynt went after Bob Livingston and if he became Speaker, New Orleans woudl rake in soem spoils, so I'd just vote to stick a machete in Flynt's esophagus, or push him onto the California freeway.

Question> I think Flynt, Coleman, and Ariana were all taking it as a joke. At least Louisiana's Gubernatorial election isn't the object of ridicule this year :)

Kathy> I always love your links. You and Mooncat both add to this CR in positive ways.

Imzadi> I'd have to second your view on modern art. And of course these burn out artists who think used toilet paper makes an artistic statement cry censorhip if the NEA won't give them grants so they can use the money to buy their next drug fix.

Niamhgold> I don't see the moral responsibility issue in art as an issue. You make art because you enjoy it and to make some money. Maybe there's a moral argument on how to use money from selling art, though that's between you and whoever else is affected by it, and some higher being if you believe in that kind of stuff :)

Dezi> ::hugs:: I know what it's like to lose a pet, even if he was an evil pervert.

Bud-Clare> <<*L* Well, they _are_ cuddly...from a nice safe distance. Too bad some people forget that part. (Too bad for them, anyway. The gene pool is grateful, though. ;)>> Indeed. Occasional drunks in Toronto wander into polar bear cages in the zoo and the gene pool is cleansed, plus polar bears get a nice meal :)

Lain> Is this a former Professor?

And purple is the color fo royalty as why my Fraternity sues that color, but I may have revealed too much about Delta Sigma Pi already :)

Lady Mystic> I will. Your poor dad ::hugs::

Bye for now. I'll be back :)
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Camp Himphreys , Korea
Monday, October 13, 2003 01:12:43 AM
IP: 61.77.43.23

DPH:<<Write a computer program that randomly puts random colors on a screen until the screen is covered up.>>

Hey, I did that in my BASIC computer programming class back in 7th grade (about 14 years ago)

We were using Apple IIe's (255khz I think) with lo-res graphics. Hmm I think I even remember the code.::

10 GR
20 For c = 1 to 16
21 For l = 1 to 1180 step 40
22 For r = 40 to 1200 step 40
30 Color = c
40 Plot l to r
50 next c
51 next l
52 next r
60 Goto 30
70 End

It filled the screen with 30 horizontal lines, each a randomly selected color (out of 16 possible)

Was looong time ago in a different life. :)
Leo
Monday, October 13, 2003 12:32:32 AM
IP: 68.96.8.12

DPH> <>

No offense, but this is a really stupid question. While both of them have different complexes going on, the results are pretty much the same. And last I checked, there was no scale one could use to measure insanity.
Greg Bishansky
Monday, October 13, 2003 12:30:24 AM
IP: 216.179.2.13

Fire Stomr> <<My evil laugh scares people>>: Is it an insane evil laugh, or is there any reason behind it? I can pull of a passable crazy laugh, myself. Care to laugh together someday?
<>: Just another taboo, and messed up people, I guess.
<<Scat HUMOR, yeah>>: Scat singing, but that's something else.
<<Now for the rest of me>>: Any recent progress on that front?
<<I'd say moral fiber and a respect for the community, but I know that would be a lie>>: Then was it my insistance on bringing in the facts of it?
<<So you simply suck on a fresh, dry teabag?>>: Well, it wasn't dry for very long.
<<but the explosives do an EXCELLENT job of launching them!>>: Not all of them, and you can't really see the spread as well at ground level.
<>: Excellent.
<<Another show I will most likely never see>>: If you've got a couple hundred megs free space and some time, you can pick up the episodes temporarially as they come out. anime.mircx.com is a good repository of recent bittorrent links, while a.scarywater.net has more of an archive for select subbing groups.
<<Last time that happened, I was playing Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets and they watched>>: Which is why you look for multiplayer. Especially ones where you can beat them up. Nothing like senseless violence to bring a household together.
<<Is that the game that I can pick Samus, or is that Mario Party?>>: You can choose Samus in Smash, and I did quite often. I liked getting the missles in the latest iteration. The homing wasn't very good, but the straight packs a good punch. Shame throws aren't as good (mmm, grapple reach), and screwing isn't as fun. shame the bombs haven't been much use except for extra air time coming back. I always try to use the girls in fighting games.

Bud Clare> <<Not really, since cheese has already been invented>>: But think of what else could be found.
<<But I am enjoying it more than homework>>: Which is essentially all that counts.
<<Cheese, with a side of cheese>>: Quite tasty, especially if you get the combination right.

Fire Storm> <<Is it because I am easier to catch?>>: Unless you sleep run, I'd go with that.
<<Have they never thought of ordering carryout?>>: Of course not, they're clowns, aren't they?
<<If *I* started to eat them?>>: Indigestion from the red honky noses.
<<has anyone ever proved that clowns (and by extension, mimes) are human?>>: I've worked with clowns, and they seemed coherent enough to be at least sentient.
<<Must set clown traps>>: I assume you're using banana cream pies as bait? Or do you have a different approach?

DPH> <<What makes a state a god state?>>: Lack of double clutch on the o. That, or having God Eneru in charge, like in Skypiea.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:57:25 PM
IP: 68.37.159.199

*Yawns*

I rented the Spiderman a couple of weeks ago and now I have a question: Who is more sane: the Green Goblin or the Joker?

Fire Storm - <Ok, so I have established that I cannot sleep because the clowns will eat me; that's just a given.> Hmm. Is it Killer Klowns or Ciller Clowns? <Must set clown traps. Need sleep.> Only clown traps? I'd be more concerned about creatures with more than 5 legs going after me.

Fire Storm - <Hey, a single blue line on a large canvas is legitimate art...> Hmm.

Hey, Imzadi, I got an idea for lots of money. Write a computer program that randomly puts random colors on a screen until the screen is covered up. Then print the picture and call it "modern art". Then sell it.

Gside - <Texas isn't a god state> (Sorry, can't resist) What makes a state a god state?

<Why is the Pendragon Logo purple?> Because *purple* is the name that you have been trained to associate with that particular color.

Fire Storm - <Well, at least you didn't have a giant rolling boulder> *for no apparant reason, a giant rolling boulder shows up in the cr, rolling towards Fire Storm*

Todd - Well, I was thinking more along the lines of all the business that generate most of the revenue after dark and those bakeries were food has to start being prepared before sunrise, not to mention all the food that probably spoiled.

DPH
drowsiness
Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:53:39 PM
IP: 204.94.193.63

Pendragon Logo> Yep, purple is a royal color. The basic story is that purple was an expensive color to dye. And the way tradition work, soon everything purple was considered royal from color to jewelry. For a time, amethyst was more precious than diamonds. But then explorers discovered huge deposits of them in South America and that ended amethyst's dominance.
Taleweaver
Sunday, October 12, 2003 02:26:24 PM
IP: 24.205.177.107

Ok, so I have established that I cannot sleep because the clowns will eat me; that's just a given.

Now, what I have to figure out is WHY they will eat me. I am tastier when I sleep? Is it because I am easier to catch? Have they never thought of ordering carryout?

What would happen if I turned the tables on them? If *I* started to eat them? Would it be murder or would it just be pre-emptive self-defense? That DID work for Bush, after all.

Maybe it wouldn't be murder. I mean, has anyone ever proved that clowns (and by extension, mimes) are human?

Must set clown traps. Need sleep.

...

Thank Dog that they are eliminating the overnight shift... well... ok, so that happened after they eliminated half my department in a 24 hour period Thrusday and Friday...
Fire Storm
Sunday, October 12, 2003 04:15:08 AM
IP: 65.114.91.3

Fire Storm> <<Yeah, but he would probably breathe out of his nose.>>
...then he wouldn't really be holding it, would he?

<<Hey, a single blue line on a large canvas is legitimate art...>>
Only if I'm the one getting paid for it. ;)

<<My evil laugh scares people. It's fun! >>
I've been practicing my evil laugh, but I haven't perfected it yet, so I still haven't used it in front of anyone. Soon, though, very soon. *strokes a cat while grinning maliciously*
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Gside> <<Oh well, at least it's generally worthwile to at least check to see if aging improves things.>>
Not really, since cheese has already been invented.

<<And aren't you enjoying it?>>
No. But I am enjoying it more than homework.

<<Though fruit might be possible.>>
Or maybe just... more cheese? Cheese, with a side of cheese. (This is what school does to my brain.)

<<Texas isn't a god state>>
As a rule, no.
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Lady Mystic> *hugs* That's too bad. Insanely bad, even. What rotten luck.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Sunday, October 12, 2003 03:31:36 AM
IP: 66.67.201.63

Bud-Clare: <Maybe no one noticed...>
Hmm... Well, that is a good point. It IS New York, after all...
<The looks on people's faces are probably funnier than the jokes themselves, but that's sort of the point. Confusing people is a good hobby to have>
There is no hobby better! Also, scaring people. My evil laugh scares people. It's fun!
<He could hold his breath while he waits... That would work.>
Yeah, but he would probably breathe out of his nose.

Kathy: <Meanwhile, in other nature news, two naturefanactic learn that bears are not cuddly critters>
Reminds me of "Dead like me"

Josh: <"Modern" artists should be drawn, quartered, shot, and then really hurt, just so the taxpayers can stop supporting museums that show their junk.>
Hey, a single blue line on a large canvas is legitimate art...

As for crap art, I am reminded of a local "artist" Tyree Guyton and his Heidelberg Project. (My link)
But the good news is that the city tore down the building. Yeah!

Gside: 
Yeah... As for the scat... why? I never understood scat porn. Scat HUMOR, yeah.
<Isn't it a nice feeling having another backup waiting?>
Now for the rest of me...
<But what's stopping you?>
I'd say moral fiber and a respect for the community, but I know that would be a lie.
<But what's stopping you?>
So you simply suck on a fresh, dry teabag?
<Couldn't you launch them, and then have a mid air blow?>
Yeah, I suppose... but the explosives do an EXCELLENT job of launching them!
<So who's in charge of getting a sample?>
The new intern. Or who ever has pissed off his/her coworkers the most.
<But cake goes with anal sex, which leads to kitten molestation. Where does the chicken come in?>
Eddie Izard.
<Don't worry about it. I'm used to it.>
I don't quite know how to take that (Well, without references to lube anyway)
<By the way, Fullmetal Alchemist is a new anime series>
Ah. Another show I will most likely never see.
<If you can get others into it too (like the Lady or Puppy Girl), Smash is an excellent choice>
I have thought about that too. Family gaming night...
Last time that happened, I was playing Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets and they watched.
<You may just want to make sure people pick a variety of characters>
Is that the game that I can pick Samus, or is that Mario Party?

I probally should be doing my homework (essay on "The Bean Trees" and a theme writing on "The Women of Brewster Place")
Fire Storm
Sunday, October 12, 2003 02:02:03 AM
IP: 65.114.91.3

Bud Clare> <<Not so much>>: Oh well, at least it's generally worthwile to at least check to see if aging improves things.
<<If you can get a giant wedge, why not the whole thing?>>: Aesthetic values?
<<This is the stupidest conversation I've had all week>>: And aren't you enjoying it?
<<Pac-Man?>>: Pretty much, except without the pellets and ghosts. Though fruit might be possible.

Lain> <<back to attempting to sleep>>: Texas isn't a god state for sleeping?

Lady Mystic> My condolences.

Niamhgold> <>: I can imagine the numbness. Mondrian should be taken in moderation, if not less.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, October 12, 2003 12:30:14 AM
IP: 68.37.159.199

leo>> re: timedancer logo
i think the general idea was that it was intended to look like fire.. which i think a script-ish font does quite nicely.
lain
Saturday, October 11, 2003 08:32:59 PM
IP: 4.7.35.8

Gside: Before I forget, the guy with the primary colors is Piet Mondrian. I had to do a mind-numbing thesis on him freshman year ;)
Niamhgold
Saturday, October 11, 2003 08:25:44 PM
IP: 209.143.83.194

Revel: I agree. I think it should be a harsh requirement that students of ALL arts/design majors take at least one drawing course a year. And one of those should definitely be a hard-core architectural/perspective drawing class, since it surprises me how few people know about two point/three point perspective.
Niamhgold
Saturday, October 11, 2003 08:23:49 PM
IP: 209.143.83.194

Re: New TGS logos.

I'm ok with all of them, except for maybe "Timedancer" - specifically the font. IMO I don't think a "script" font is appropriate. (I't looked kinda cool in "GAWAIN" - a quasi LOTR font. :) )
Leo - [<- site with "ancient" looking fonts]
Saturday, October 11, 2003 07:52:35 PM
IP: 68.96.8.12

<<Why is the Pendragon Logo purple?>>

now, not that i am actually responsible for creating the logos or anything but.. i seem to recall some sort of connection between the colour purple and royalty..
just a thought. we shall wait to hear from ye almighty logo creatOR for the REAL reason...
lain
Saturday, October 11, 2003 07:09:20 PM
IP: 4.7.35.8

<TGS proudly presents . . new logos for its website. Yes, The TGS Website has new logos for "Gargoyles", "Dark Ages", "Pendragon", and "Timedancer" series. >

Why is the Pendragon Logo purple?
Question
Saturday, October 11, 2003 05:13:25 PM
IP: 144.92.164.204

Niahmgold- The problem is now that even though those Masters could draw and recreate the wolrd around them well there are thousands more out there (i.e. the UNT Art staff) who actuall just jumped right into moder and Concept style without learning how to draw. And yes then they have the nerve to tel you what is good or not.
My watercolor teacher just last week made restart a piece and suggested that I do it in a deifferent perspective. Good advice, but when she tried to draw an example she did not know how to draw a building in receeding perspective. Things do NOT get larger as they get farther away!

Just 9 little credit hours more and the pain will end.
Revel
Saturday, October 11, 2003 02:18:39 PM
IP: 129.120.169.116

LM: I am SO sorry to hear that...how awful! I can't even imagine what he's feeling right now.

I'm not one for prayers, but you'll all be in my thoughts this weekend. ::long distance hug!::
Siofra
A2, MI
Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:38:52 PM
IP: 68.40.56.50

As unbelievable as this may seem given my family's history, my stepmother, Florence, died Thursday morning, October 9th. My father and Florence, my father's second wife, would have been married for one year on October 26th. She had been fighting liver and lung cancer since late March of this year. The funeral will be held on Monday, with visitations held on Saturday (today) and Sunday.

Florence has become the third companion my father has lost due to death. Please keep my father in your prayers. Thank you.
Lady Mystic
Dearborn, MI
Saturday, October 11, 2003 05:20:43 AM
IP: 68.248.1.52

speaking of modern art....

OH MY GAWD, the evil old snotrag has her own website!

*shudder*

ok.. back to attempting to sleep..
lain - [<<-- the den of eeeeeeeevil...]
Saturday, October 11, 2003 04:13:39 AM
IP: 4.7.35.8

Question> <<And how much of the vote did he receive?>>
I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
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kathy> <<two naturefanactic learn that bears are not cuddly critters.>>
*L* Well, they _are_ cuddly...from a nice safe distance. Too bad some people forget that part. (Too bad for them, anyway. The gene pool is grateful, though. ;)
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Gside> <<For all I know, you could actually use them every now and then.>>
They're Lipton. Bleh.

<<Maybe they taste better after being aged.>>
Not so much.

<<Giant wedges aren't enough?>>
If you can get a giant wedge, why not the whole thing? (This is the stupidest conversation I've had all week.)

<<How about with a wedge out of it?>>
Pac-Man?
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Saturday, October 11, 2003 02:13:32 AM
IP: 66.67.201.63

My mom just called me to tell me that her dog, my dog's mom, had a stroke last nite. :( She's a 14 year old springer spaniel, so pretty much at the end of her line. :(
She's normally such a happy bouncy dog. She gave me Dottie, who looks like a Snoopy. I always wanted a Snoopy dog, even before we had Jinny (Dottie's mom). Mom says now she just kinda walks around all weird, her left side is all messed up. She goes to the vet tomorrow, to see if she's at the end, or will recover. :( :( :(
Dezi
Saturday, October 11, 2003 02:00:26 AM
IP: 68.58.158.101

Thank you, DPH.

and thank you too, lurking lainy-fish-goyle type person...
Lynati
Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:21:57 AM
IP: 65.64.124.108

TGS proudly presents . . new logos for its website. Yes, The TGS Website has new logos for "Gargoyles", "Dark Ages", "Pendragon", and "Timedancer" series.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:17:19 AM
IP: 204.94.193.55

Fire Storm> <<Goatse never really bothered me>>: I find the scat stuff worse, but I try not too look at it for too long. Though it is a good way to reak out your friends.
<<Don't use the hard core stuff from the beginning>>: Exactly.
<<Wouldn't surprise me>>: Isn't it a nice feeling having another backup waiting?
<>: But what's stopping you?
<<Used teabags?>>: These were fresh, though used might taste better.
<<Why do you think I am out of explosives?>>: Couldn't you launch them, and then have a mid air blow?
<<You never know. Maybe it is so bad that it does>>: So who's in charge of getting a sample?
<<Well, you failed that test. You were supposed to ask for the chicken>>: But cake goes with anal sex, which leads to kitten molestation. Where does the chicken come in?
<<So now you get a lot of anal sex. On you. Sorry. Corporate policy and all>>: Don't worry about it. I'm used to it.
<<Smiles and nods head>>: Very good. That was the proper reaction. By the way, Fullmetal Alchemist is a new anime series.
<>: If you can get others into it too (like the Lady or Puppy Girl), Smash is an excellent choice. You may just want to make sure people pick a variety of characters. Too much Roy is not good.
<<Well, at least you didn't have a giant rolling boulder>>: Don't ruin the surprise.

Bud Clare> <<Of course they are. Do you think I'd keep swapping them or something?>>: For all I know, you could actually use them every now and then. Maybe they taste better after being aged.
<>: Well, without the sexual connotations. I never used that sock like that.
<<Yes. That was the point>>: Giant wedges aren't enough? How about with a wedge out of it?
<<And then fanatically defended as a legitimate way to "write.">>: Especially then.

Imzadi> <<That would be because modern art is neither "modern" nor "art">>: I'd say it's a somewhat recent thing to call this art. And then, if you use Scott McCloud's definition of art, but anyway a lot of madern stuff annoys me. Give me a good Leda anytime. Though what's his name with the black lines and red, yellow, and blue rectangles can make a nice enough looking image, even if a collected works would get very boring.

Niamhgold> <<We had a long argument about the "moral responsibility of artists" in my crit yesterday>>: What responsibility? Anyone who can draw a pretty (or not so pretty) picture can call themselves and artist if they really want to.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Friday, October 10, 2003 11:49:52 PM
IP: 68.37.159.199

Josh: [That would be because modern art is neither "modern" nor "art" (discuss!)....Modern" artists should be drawn, quartered, shot, and then really hurt, just so the taxpayers can stop supporting museums that show their junk.]

wow. that got me hot. *curls up with Josh and lain*
Lynati
Friday, October 10, 2003 10:54:52 PM
IP: 65.64.124.108

RE: Modern art:

The funny thing is that modern artists who create the strange stuff that gets them attention have amazing portfolios (Warhol was a wonderful portraiture artist, Picasso did great landscapes, etc), but they never get recognized for it. I wish they had pushed those things more, as opposed to making artists all snobbish at the students who still think representation, humor/parody, or fantasy art is cool. We had a long argument about the "moral responsibility of artists" in my crit yesterday; seems the class didn't much like the fact that my two friends are building a video game. Somehow, I got off the hook even though I'm animating, but I still told my professors to screw the moral responsibility in portfolio work. It's fine to make that stuff on your own time, but it's not going to feed you. And humor is so much less stressful to develop than politics in artwork ;)

bwahhahahahah.
Niamhgold
Friday, October 10, 2003 09:36:15 PM
IP: 209.143.83.194

Hey all,
Just popping in to prove I'm still alive. I take a look at baseball and this scene from Back to the Future 2 keeps playing in my head.

"A hundred to 100 shot! Wish I could go back to the season and put some money on the Cubbies."

And it isn't even 2015.
Taleweaver
Friday, October 10, 2003 09:09:26 PM
IP: 24.205.177.107

*smooches josh*

that was awesome :D
lain
Friday, October 10, 2003 06:50:14 PM
IP: 4.7.35.8

Lain: That would be because modern art is neither "modern" nor "art" (discuss!). It's crap. All of it. Its something an aborted fetus would create if they got ahold of finger paints, an arc welder, or a lump of clay. It's a bunch of squares on canvas using 3 colors, or 48 copies of the same damned can of soup, or pieces of trash glued together, or whatever some LSD-"enhanced" mind thought was really cool shortly after saying "dude! My hand is HUGE!"

Hippies are bad enough. Then some have to go out, create shit, and force us to look at it, all the while saying things like "don't censor me!" and "you aren't smart enough to understand my work!"

"Modern" artists should be drawn, quartered, shot, and then really hurt, just so the taxpayers can stop supporting museums that show their junk.

And that's how I really feel. The best I could do at channelling SJ for the day.
Josh
Friday, October 10, 2003 06:30:53 PM
IP: 64.161.26.6

***DOOMED SPOILERS***

Dezi: Although, as you say, the difficulty is often that the artists are very busy and already spend a good deal of their time producing TGS art, I believe that almost every episode has and will have at least one image this season by the time we’re done. And if you want to increase TGS artist interest, I have it on good authority that flattering feedback for artists will get you everywhere. ;)

Vash: Sorry to hear you didn't like “Doomed”. The reason I wanted to have Sekhmet in there (besides that the brief of this episode was roughly “Egypt episode where Sekhmet returns”) was that she was meant to mirror Merlin's feeling of being 'doomed'. The Grail quest was really secondary to that: the story was always about depression and escaping the shadow of Madoc. I also thought the idea of having Sekhmet needing to be cheered up from her depression quite interesting and hoped that it would give the story a bit of edge; for anyone used to the quite self-centred and self-assured Sekhmet, I hoped this would be quite unsettling.

Tangentially, your post reminds me of a couple of things. Todd actually made the very astute point some way through breakdowns (or maybe writing, I forget) that often this season of our villains represented one or other of the seven deadly sins. Lucius’ sin is pride, Montrose’s is avarice, Sekhmet’s is sloth and Morgana’s is wrath. It seemed appropriate for a Grail quest, if unintentional. (And stay tuned to see if we manage to get envy, gluttony and lust in!)

Also, one scene in “Doomed” was actually salvaged from an episode that never got made. I proposed an episode where the heroes would consult the Shaman from “Walkabout” and enter the Dreamtime in the hope of finding clues to the Grail’s whereabouts. It was rejected very early though: I think it was felt that the characters were unlikely to use the ceremonies of non-Christian religions to find what they believe to be a Christian holy object. But after we decided to drop it, Todd suggested resurrecting one Dreamtime scene as a nightmare in “Doomed” – Merlin finding the Grail but it destroying him because of his Unseelie blood. And it fitted “Doomed” perfectly of course.

***END SPOILERS AND TGS TRIVIA NOBODY CARES ABOUT***
Ed
Cambridge, England
Friday, October 10, 2003 04:19:38 PM
IP: 131.111.8.101

.. and people wonder why nobody understands or supports "modern art"
:P
lain
Friday, October 10, 2003 03:12:42 PM
IP: 4.7.35.8

Re: election

I also read something about an "artist" who always wore blue whe he campaigned, who ran because he claimed it would be the "ultimate performance art piece"
Leo
Friday, October 10, 2003 02:48:06 PM
IP: 68.96.8.12

TGS: D> (spoilers, obviously) I don't remember Sehkmet well enough to know if she was in character or not, but focusing so much on her boredom quickly left me feeling the same way. The villain was all-powerful, the cast were completely helpless (Mary's only weapon was her sharp tongue, which often had me groaning), and the only reason they made it out alive was through the intervention of clever, well-meaning servants. They were the only characters that held my interest, and yet they were hardly featured and given little-to-no background. It might have been more interesting to not show Sehkmet at all, keeping her a shadow-character that we only hear about through what her servants whisper. It would have made her appear more menacing, and the threat more real, and provided a reason for the servants to be given so much time in the spotlight. In fact, I don't know why Sehkmet needed to be featured at all, except to please her fans. The whole side plot about Sehkmet's plight was distracting and unnecessary and by the time we finally got to the main plot (which I assume is Arthur and Griff looking for the Grail), I was skipping entire sections just to make the story move along faster. I'm not saying those sections weren't well written; in fact I enjoyed them when I read the story again a few days later. I think I just had problems staying focused and interested in both stories at once. Having Sehkmet observe Arthur & Griff's adventure from the sidelines reminded me of "Future Tense". There, Puck "kidnaps" Goliath at the very beginning without our knowing it, then makes him go through several trials, until the very end where he reveals himself and his reasons for wanting the Gate. It would have been more effective, I think, if -this- story had done the same thing. At least it would have been more focused, chilling, and more easily kept my attention. Otherwise, make the story a two-parter. Or use the servants in a different episode. I would have liked seeing them pitted against Ipsis's dragonmen in a hybrid-vs-hybrid story, with Arthur's gang trapped in the middle. Or something.

Normally I would point out all the nits I found, but I don't feel like it here. Blah.
Vash
Friday, October 10, 2003 02:45:53 PM
IP: 129.98.127.164

<You think the porn guy is taking it seriously?>

And how much of the vote did he receive?
Question
Friday, October 10, 2003 10:14:31 AM
IP: 144.92.164.204

I'm alive, I really am. I checked my pulse last night. Unfortunately, I've been uber busy, thanks to this comic exhibition and a senior thesis/seminar crit (which, thankfully, went well). Hopefully I can post later; maybe during my vacation next week.

Have fun in the meantime ;)
Niamhgold
Friday, October 10, 2003 09:50:07 AM
IP: 209.143.83.194

Re: Tiger Attack. It was a big haired lady's fault. Click for an interesting telling of the story.

Meanwhile, in other nature news, two naturefanactic learn that bears are not cuddly critters. Don't have the link but how dumb can you be?
kathy
Friday, October 10, 2003 09:00:12 AM
IP: 66.82.195.150

Gside> <<For good reason, especially if they're always the same two teabags.>>
Of course they are. Do you think I'd keep swapping them or something?

<<so, is it something like my funsock?>>
I sure hope not.

<<Does the cheese have to be in wheel form?>>
Yes. That was the point.

<<Or any other bulk writing.>>
And then fanatically defended as a legitimate way to "write."
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Question> <<It would be more disturbing if Coleman had more than Flynt seeing how Coleman is treating the whole thing like a joke.>>
You think the porn guy is taking it seriously?
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Aaron> <<Larry at least had a plan to fix the deficit, and knows a thing or two about running a major financial empire.>>
Well hell, let's elect him president, then.

<<I'd have voted for him.>>
Yes? And?
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Fire Storm> <<And besides... I am pretty sure that they had to get as much of it out as they could, for pure marine traffic reasons.>>
Maybe no one noticed...

<<No, I bet they are still funny.>>
The looks on people's faces are probably funnier than the jokes themselves, but that's sort of the point. Confusing people is a good hobby to have.

<<Oh, you laugh now, but you just wait until... um... well, you just wait!>>
He could hold his breath while he waits... That would work.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Friday, October 10, 2003 04:03:49 AM
IP: 66.67.201.63

Question: <Has anyone started a legal defense fund for that cat yet?>
Well, so far the cat's attorneys have said that Roy slipped and the cat was trying to help him.

Bud-Clare: <If they can hold their breath long enough...>
Ok, so I meant Fortress 2.
And besides... I am pretty sure that they had to get as much of it out as they could, for pure marine traffic reasons.
<That makes my jokes about sucking on tea bags in an emergency not so funny>
No, I bet they are still funny.

Josh: <Excuse me while I sit smugly behind my non-windows machine.>
Oh, you laugh now, but you just wait until... um... well, you just wait!
<Then there will be forty-ONE mac viruses...and 60,000 for windows>
Well, maybe he will write the first Mac virus creation software... and port it to Windows so Windows script kiddies can create Mac viruses. And you know a lot of hardcore anti-Macs will just keep creating them too.

Gside: <You've just been overexposed. Bring them in with the small stuff, and leave the good stuff to keep impressing them.>
True... it's just like pr0n. I am just too jaded I guess. Goatse never really bothered me.
But the pr0n newbies found it shocking and disgusting. So explosives are like porn. Don't use the hard core stuff from the beginning.
<Scary, isn't it?>
Absolut Moonshine (yeah, the Ukraine is NOT Russia...)
<Surely there must be some spleen, as well. Maybe a bit of gallbladder>
Well, yeah. They are just used in the sacrifices.
<You're a freak. Do you know if you have another set of teeth waiting to come in for the rest?>
Wouldn't surprise me.
<Very good. Though allegedly there's some acid in tea that helps wounds close. So for a bit, I used a pair of teabags as gauze.>
Well, I COULD continue this as a very dirty discussion but...
I do remember hearing that tea does have some rejuvenation and anti-biotic abilities, so that makes sense. Used teabags?
<All the more fun. And what else are you going to do with your old jack o'lanterns?>
Why do you think I am out of explosives?
<Use aides for the first and third, and go blow your opponents minds in the debates>
Or threats. "Drop out or our candidate will have a 1-on-1 chat with you"
<He handwriting doesn't cause any more insanity than mine, right?>
You never know. Maybe it is so bad that it does.
<In that case, I'll have just a little death. Unless you have any anal sex?>
Well, you failed that test. You were supposed to ask for the chicken.
So now you get a lot of anal sex. On you. Sorry. Corporate policy and all.
<Speaking of Fullmetal (Alchemist),>
**Smiles and nods head**
<No, no, no. It's all about Smash. Learn to fear the puff>
Metroid. Only reason I bout a Gamecube. I would buy more, but I want to try before I buy, and the selection at Blockbuster sucks.

Lynati: <!{ j00 (4|\| |~ 34|) 7#!5, &37 4 1!{3>
W3rd. ! R d4 l337 m4$73r! Ph34r!

Leo: <Looks like "Demolition Man" could be a prophecy>
Won't that be a joy-joy day?

Spacebabie: <You like it when stuff explodes eh? Did you hear about the family cellphone that exploded?>
No! Do tell!

I can understand that. I mean, the cat has been his pet for YEARS.

Dezi: <Stupid backwards hicks can't drive in the rain>
Spacebabie mentioned that it sounds like Florida. Well, it also sounds like Michigan.

Todd: <Yep, it did come out a bit "Indiana Jones-ish", though I suspect that we'd probably have to do a take-off on it at some point in a Grail arc>
Well, at least you didn't have a giant rolling boulder

Ed: <He hasn’t, for example, tried to drown Mary yet>
Well, it is still early in the season.
Fire Storm
Friday, October 10, 2003 03:53:17 AM
IP: 65.114.91.3

Bud Clare> <>: For good reason, especially if they're always the same two teabags. so, is it something like my funsock?
<<No, but giant chocolate wheels do. And cheese>>: Does the cheese have to be in wheel form?
<<Bye-bye brain cells>>: I never used them anyway.
<<Or ridiculed, when it's used to write fanfic>>: Or any other bulk writing.

Pinky> <<im really a girl and i love you im a big fan of yours>>: Right. Really, fat, balding middle aged man.

Todd> <<I'm a bit surprised and shocked to learn that there are still people out there who believe that this is a chat room>>: There are always new people finding new places on the internet, and this is a rather unique setup here.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, October 9, 2003 11:09:52 PM
IP: 68.37.159.199

ok todd bye o your cute
pinky
Thursday, October 9, 2003 08:46:15 PM
IP: 152.163.252.196

Please stop doing that, whoever you are. This is NOT a chat room. This is a comment room. (I'm a bit surprised and shocked to learn that there are still people out there who believe that this is a chat room.)
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, October 9, 2003 08:40:53 PM
IP: 171.75.194.54

greg ok ok im really a girl and i love you im a big fan of yours*big smilly*:)
pinky
Thursday, October 9, 2003 08:38:57 PM
IP: 152.163.252.196

...
Anonymous
Thursday, October 9, 2003 08:36:01 PM
IP: 152.163.252.196

greg>whats up man! :)
Brooklyn 5000
Thursday, October 9, 2003 08:32:43 PM
IP: 152.163.252.196

QUESTION - Hate to break this to you, but politics in America is a big joke.
Greg B
Thursday, October 9, 2003 07:49:48 PM
IP: 199.93.82.163

<Last I saw, Larry Flynt had more votes than Gary Coleman, which is kind of unnerving.>

It would be more disturbing if Coleman had more than Flynt seeing how Coleman is treating the whole thing like a joke.
Question
Thursday, October 9, 2003 06:13:47 PM
IP: 144.92.164.204

***KINDA TGS SPOILERS***
I just want to add one more thing, since you guys finally got me voicing my critiques: More pics please! Since TGS is off of Gargoyles and Gargoyles was a _cartoon_ I think visuals are an important part. I know they take a lot of work, but there have been so many in Pendragon that don't have pics. To me, and probably others, the pics add to the story and especially to the characters something that, (errrr searching for words), well I don't want to say makes them more real, but does flesh out their characterization a bit more. Putting a name to a face kind of thing. It just feels empty other wise.
Not a rant, just voicing my opinion (and believe me I know how hard it prolly is to create the pics in the first place).
***END KINDA TGS SPOILERS***

Dezi
Thursday, October 9, 2003 04:41:22 PM
IP: 68.58.158.101

Bud-Clare> <<Last I saw, Larry Flynt had more votes than Gary Coleman, which is kind of unnerving.>> Why? Larry at least had a plan to fix the deficit, and knows a thing or two about running a major financial empire. Everybody already knows his background, so there's less chance of damaging info coming to light later and creating a scandal, and he'd probably throw some tax breaks at companies doing AIDS research. I'd have voted for him.

Aaron - [JCarnage@Yahoo.com]
San Antonio, TX, USA
Thursday, October 9, 2003 10:38:38 AM
IP: 66.139.49.253

I suppose that the male werecheetahs must have had such a small role in any past Sekhmet stories that we did that we had completely forgotten about them.
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, October 9, 2003 07:40:05 AM
IP: 171.75.194.80

Spacebabie> <>
I should hope not. He's a tiger for crying out loud. He didn't do anything wrong.
___________________
Patrick> <<I'm curious how many votes Gallagher and Gary Coleman received.>>
Last I saw, Larry Flynt had more votes than Gary Coleman, which is kind of unnerving.
__________________
Gside> <<Which jokes are these?>>
I have two teabags in my glove compartment. People wonder why.

<<You take the fun out of anything.>>
It's a special skill of mine.

<<Do giant stone wheels count as money?>>
No, but giant chocolate wheels do. And cheese.

<<Give me all the toxic chemicals you can find.>>
Bye-bye brain cells.

<<It is not to be feared, just figured out, then passed over.>>
Or ridiculed, when it's used to write fanfic.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Thursday, October 9, 2003 03:45:30 AM
IP: 66.67.201.63

Sorry, double post, but oh well.
(well, technically its the next day from my last post ;) )

Spacebabie:
***Smallville Spoilers****
Well no flying, but all-in-all a good ep. I just hope Clark doesn't get all woe-is-me-I-have-a-darkside on us. After a while it would be really whiney. Where's Pete? For a dude that knows CK's seee-cret he sure lies low alot. I wonder if Lana will have any conflicts about the pitchfork guy. I mean, technically she did just kill a guy.
Why is it that on -insert show here- if a girl holds a gun on the guy, they never really believe that she would actually shoot, so they advance on her anyway. But if a guy holds a gun on a guy, he won't boldy advance on him like no sweat...
Preview for next ep: Well, Brandon is excited there is more of swimsuit Lana, but we both kind of agreed the ep sounded like it could be a first season ep rather than a third. Dunno, have to wait and see for sure, of course.
Smallville beginnings: So they did kinda already play with CK flying. Hmmm.
And Brandon says he read somewhere that Chloe will be the actual one to bring Clark to Metropolis for his future role in the Daily Planet. I'm just proud of the boy for reading for leisure. ;)
****End Smallville Spoilers****
That's about it. My tummy hurts. :(

Dezi
Thursday, October 9, 2003 01:58:34 AM
IP: 68.58.158.101

Bud Clare> <<That makes my jokes about sucking on tea bags in an emergency not so funny>>: Which jokes are these?
<<If you pay me, I'll find out for you. With money. Monetary payments only. Pervert>>: You take the fun out of anything. Do giant stone wheels count as money?
<<Softscrub. Orange scented. Yum>>: Scenting is for the weak. Give me all the toxic chemicals you can find. Granted, yes, I am already in Jersey.

Spacebabie> <>: It is not to be feared, just figured out, then passed over.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 11:25:39 PM
IP: 68.37.159.199

***Psuedo-TGS Spoilers***
I'm really ill, so I don't care to go off of much more
than my own memory, but:
Doesn't the Ghost of Rev. Attilla use a male werecheetah as his pic? If so, then that means we have a drawing of one, and it was prolly used in a story.
***End psuedo-TGS Spoilers***
Dezi
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 10:02:50 PM
IP: 68.58.158.101

***Doomed spoilers***

Glad everyone’s enjoying “Doomed”. I remember this outline had a lot of revisions to get Sekhmet’s character straight. I never really enjoyed her character until “History’s Forgotten” but I enjoyed the approach to her pioneered there. And Todd did such an amazing job writing this episode.

Todd/Spacebabie: Hmmm... IIRC, in the first draft of the outline, I had some reference to male cheetahs but was told that she only recruited females.

Spacebabie: The blank book idea was originally an idea I was throwing around for “The Mists of Eynhallow”. I liked the visual of the Harry Potter book but wanted a book of absolute knowledge – that ‘absorbs’ writing but doesn’t relay it. But for one thing, it was too close to HP and I didn’t want to do that. And when we were brainstorming ideas for the Egypt thing and I discovered this business about the Templar’s complete and absolute knowledge, I realised that there was a better way to do it. In hindsight, I might as well have left the book out and just had the ring concealed elsewhere but it was kind of a relic of that older plot idea. And I guess having a book made the skeleton knights assume they’d just been conned, and not that it was another puzzle. And we may have an idea for that book some day.

Dezi: I sympathise with your concerns about the season being an anti-climax, although I'm fairly confident that it won't be. This finale is actually going to feel like a finale to the whole series so far, I think. It's going to be really epic, with lots of surprises. I'll look forward to hearing what you make of it. Also, don't forget we've already been given a glimpse of the Grail at the end of "Choices" (although Arthur hasn't yet).

The controversy over the Arthur & Mary father/daughter business does surprise me. The template of Arthur as a single father of two kids was pretty evident in the way the characters related in season 3, and this season Mary’s been following in Arthur’s footsteps so much (down to Excalibur out of the stone wall in “Rome Eternal”). Morgana is the would-be mother figure so it seemed obvious to have Arthur as the father figure. Arthur’s never actually raised a child, so Mary is the closest he’s ever come to it, especially after “The Mists of Eynhallow”. I think all through the season, we see Arthur playing the father to Mary, even just as a consequence of him being literally in loco parentis – his concern for bringing Mary along on the quest at the beginning, his concern over her health in “Out of the Frying Pan”. It seemed logical that after nearly a year of travelling together, this feeling would emerge. Arthur *is* more of a parent to Mary than he was to Mordred. He hasn’t, for example, tried to drown Mary yet. And as we see in “Doomed”, he and Guinevere weren’t as close as they might have been so it seems to me that Arthur’s really quite new at close family (in adult life at least).

Oh well… hopefully the future developments in this storyline will convince those that aren’t already convinced.

***End Spoilers***
Ed
Cambridge, England
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 07:57:21 PM
IP: 131.111.8.96

SPACEBABIE - I must have forgotten about the male werecheetahs; sorry about that. (Since nobody else on the staff brought this up during Breakdown, Writing, and Edits, apparently everybody else at TGS must have forgotten about them.)

And I'm glad that you liked it. Yep, it did come out a bit "Indiana Jones-ish", though I suspect that we'd probably have to do a take-off on it at some point in a Grail arc. (And "Gargoyles" itself did a few little references in the original television series, such as Elisa's leap of faith in "Avalon Part Three" and Diane Maza's "Why did it have to be spiders?" line in "Mark of the Panther").
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 07:15:45 PM
IP: 171.75.195.110

Guess what came in the mail yesterday… An order form for Graduation announcements...pretty gold with a Pegasus symbol.

I think I’m suffering from an allergic reaction to some kind of pollen cause I can’t stop coughing.

********TGS Spoilers*******

YES! Sekhmet! She is my favorite of the unseelies.

Though there was one thin I can’t put a finger on. She only wants to recruit females as were cheetahs? In TGS didn’t she have a few male were cheetahs? I may have to reread them again.

Mary was in top notch form! She got zapped by Sekhmet but didn’t back down she was eager to b!tch slap her. And I loved it when she told Merlin not to be a pity whore. Goof for her.

Griff and Arthur in the pyramid reminded me of Indy. And I loved the following line

Griff: "Why must it always be skeletons?" Great line.

When I read the diary had blank pages I was almost wondering if the words would appear if a drop of ink fell onto them, but that would be too HP for Pendragon.
**********Spoilers End*****

Time for replies

Dezi<<<Stupid backwards hicks can't drive in the rain,>>>Sounds like Florida.<<<That woman is freakin' nuts.>>>Can’t stand that bitch

Smallville Spoilers <<<either never gonna have Clark fly or it would be in the fifth season.>>>I’m thinking Jonathon might fly. <<<But I don't get the losing the farm thing. I know it was in danger, but just because Clark takes off>>>I think it had something to do with the ship destroying part of it, although I could be wrong .

Smallville Spoilers end.

Vashkoda<<<Jury duty messed up my whole week>>>I know your pain.

Firestorm<<<They delayed some of the explosions... it was cool!>>>You like it when stuff explodes eh? Did you hear about the family cellphone that exploded?<<<BAD KITTY! NO! DOWN! NO MILK FOR YOU>>>I hear that Roy detected someone in the audience upsetting the tiger and he threw himself in the place between the tiger and the audience. I also heard he doesn’t want the tiger to be put down.

Gray Monk<<<Mr. Wick? Really? I generally imagine Montrose being voiced by Alexis Denisof.>>>I think either Greg X or Todd posted their dream voice cast list once. Maybe they will do it again.

Josh<<<Excuse me while I sit smugly behind my non-windows machine >>>Excuse me while I smugly kick your arse. :::Lights a stick of dynamite and places it under Josh’s chair::

Lynati<<<!{ j00 (4|\| |~ 34|) 7#!5, &37 4 1!{3>>> I phear ur net speek.

GregX<<<ALL HAIL THE GOVERNATOR>>>Hell yeah!

Spacebabie - [LadyAndromeda@smstars.zzn.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 04:20:39 PM
IP: 4.72.102.120

bud claire: <<Just because you got away with procrastinating doesn't make it right. >> but where's the fun in that?
Sean
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 10:33:57 AM
IP: 207.6.190.83

What's the big deal? It's not like California's never had an actor who became governor before. His name was Ronald Reagan, and he went on to serve two terms as President.

I'm just waiting to hear the final ballot counts... I'm curious how many votes Gallagher and Gary Coleman received. :P

"And let me tell you, if you liked the recall, you're going to LOVE the recount." - Jay Leno, "Tonight Show", 10/7/03.
Patrick
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 06:58:09 AM
IP: 65.43.165.179

Gside> <<So for a bit, I used a pair of teabags as gauze.>>
That makes my jokes about sucking on tea bags in an emergency not so funny.

<<But I still don't know where I'd get custom molded lucite.>>
If you pay me, I'll find out for you. With money. Monetary payments only. Pervert.

<<Go and get a powder.>>
Softscrub. Orange scented. Yum.
__________________
Sean> <<wee I was 9th!>>
Just because you got away with procrastinating doesn't make it right.
__________________
Dezi> <>
*pats consolingly* Of course dear.
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 02:58:03 AM
IP: 66.67.201.63

Site update: new pic of Aiden and Lex, cover of my latest book, chat news, etc. Click or go to http://www.eskimo.com/~vecna/new_stuff.html
Christine - [<---- updates]
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 12:44:38 AM
IP: 208.187.159.79

QUESTION> They'll probably get Ah-nuld's stunt double (the guy who The Daily Show interviewed tonight) to replace him. Or maybe they'll get the Beast Master ;)

ALL HAIL THE GOVERNATOR!
Greg Bishansky
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 12:37:36 AM
IP: 216.179.1.187

<Well, it looks like Arnie won in California.

Looks like "Demolition Man" could be a prophecy. >

Does this mean that he won't be able to star in Terminator 4?
Question
Wednesday, October 8, 2003 12:21:25 AM
IP: 144.92.164.204

Well, it looks like Arnie won in California.

Looks like "Demolition Man" could be a prophecy.

I wonder when the "franchize wars" will occur.

Hotdogs, Armour hotdogs.......... :p
Leo
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 11:26:31 PM
IP: 68.96.8.12

Lynati> <<!{ j00 (4|\| |~ 34|) 7#!5, &37 4 1!{3>>: If you can read this, get a life. I do need one, but I still didn't like the f, r, or g.

Patrick> <<calling out the wrong numbers>>: Actually, Fire Storm reused his number, and the Lady didn't call any.

Dezi> <<Brandon bought me a Game Cube! Sonic all the time!>>: No, no, no. It's all about Smash. Learn to fear the puff.
<>: Every now and then, button mashing can work.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 10:49:03 PM
IP: 68.37.159.199

Greetings everyone;

I just wanted to post regarding a topic that was in the CR a few months ago.

A question was posed about the development of a male contraceptive. At the time I said that one would probably be available in around 10 years. I would like to revise my hypothesis to about 5 years now.

A new study in Australia (and another in America which has yet to be published) has shown an effective chemical contraceptive for men. I still need to read the primary references (not due until Oct 11), but both tests resulted in no pregnancies among the test group.

This treatment is not currently practical for distribution due to the timing of the treatments. It uses two hormone treatments to suppress spermatogenesis, testosterone and progesterone. The first is administered through an implant that must be inserted in a minor surgery while the second is done using a sub-dermal injection. The problem is that the implant must be replaced every four months and the injection every three (both must also be administered by a physician).

This study is a good first step, but as I said it is not currently marketable in this format. We might see something better in about a year, probably a single implant although I do seem to recall a problem with progesterone in an implant format (It had something to do with it's solubility at a pH <7.0).

For those of you who are interested the full study (Australian) will be published in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.

Oh. On a side not I will actually be able to attend the Gathering 2004...fancy that. It ends up that 70% of the lab will be gone anyways, so I'm due for a vacation.

Yggdrasil - [eng050599@hotmail.com]
ON, Canada
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 09:33:35 PM
IP: 24.100.240.64

Hmmmm. My dog is running around the house snapping at flies that I can't see. heh, Last time she did that, the apartment next door was getting repainted, and she had a bit too many fumes. No paint this time, that's it! She is officially crazy!

Funny thing from SNL (well it made _me_ laugh for a good five minutes until I cried). I'll put it in quotes, since it's not mine, but I don't know the exact phrasing. Its from the weekend update.
"George W. Bush can't seem to find the White House Leak. Let's put that with the list of all the other things Bush can't find. The list now reads:
White House Leak
Weapons of Mass Destruction
Saddam Hussein
Osama Bin Laden
A link between Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden
His own butt with two hands and a flashlight."

Ok ok, it was the flashlight thing that really got me. I don't know why, just one of those absurdly silly moments where it was really really funny (and still is). If he's using two hands to find his own butt, who's holding the flashlight?

***TGS SPOILERS (FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE)****
Sekhmet is so sad. I'm glad to see her back. She's just a character that should be pitied. Poor Sekhmet. :( I think it would be cool if she could somehow find redemption for joining the Unseelies (but not for the slaughtering of the Egyptians, I'm sure the Seelies would have similar crimes on their resumes) and get back up with Ptah. Or at least Ptah should make some sort of appearance. If she did find redemption though, wouldn't it have to be toward the end of Timedancer (or Timedancer's future dance) since that's where we last saw her before this, and she was still sad then.
That's all on that.
I dunno, the whole Grail thing just isn't sitting right with me. It seems kinda hokey. And, if I were in their shoes, I would also be looking for some other cure, because, knowing me luck, the Grail wouldn't have anything to do with a cure, once it was finally found. It would just be some sort of pretty magical cup with maybe some sage mystical meaning-of-life advice attached to it. Some help that would be.
This whole story line just feels very random to me. And whenever they do find the Grail, I hope it isn't some kind of last-episode-of-Seinfeld thing, where we get our hopes up and it bombs, or is inplausible (Oh my gosh! cries Una, as she wipes the dust off of an old antique, The Grail has been here all along, it was handed down for centuries in the Marter family! And here it was in the basement the whole time!). Its like watching Friends. Friends is a good show (in my opinion) but so many people have expectations of it, how are they ever gonna come up with a good ending?
Like I said, the whole thing just doesn't sit right.
***END TGS SPOILERS*****

Ugh, I'm sick and caught a cold. Achy. (does that mean flu?). :P :P :P I'm so freakin' diseased. Can't I ever catch a break?
hee hee on a positive note, Brandon bought me a Game Cube! Sonic all the time! weee! In appreciation, I kicked his but 5 times in a row on Soul Calibur 2 (which never ever happens, I swear). I think it hurt his man pride.
Dezi
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 05:26:14 PM
IP: 68.58.158.101

Patrick: Then there will be forty-ONE mac viruses...and 60,000 for windows. 8-)
Josh
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 03:27:00 PM
IP: 64.161.26.6

My virus problem appears to have cleared up now, although I'm keeping my fingers crossed just in case. I've set up a spam filter in the hopes that that will keep future such virus carriers out of my inbox. I certainly never want to go through that again.

DPH - I don't know what the economic consequences for Demona's little spree would have been, beyond of course a lot of dead people (though more dead in the way of "mysterious disappeared" than in "confirmed dead"), not to mention injured people (such as the woman whose arms Demona blew off).

In the meantime, I wouldn't recommend using Demona's spell as a way of getting a good night's sleep; for one thing, the drawback to it is that you'd be perfectly vulnerable in case Demona came along and decided to smash you. :)
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 09:29:54 AM
IP: 171.75.244.124

Bud-Clare > I guess it depends how you want to count the posts. I was the 8th actual post. I can't help it that at Firestorm and Lady Mystic double-posted during the top ten, using different colors and pics and calling out the wrong numbers in an attempt to confuse those of us who hadn't had our coffee yet. :P

Josh > Mac users will one day have their comeupance just as assuredly as Homer Simpson, food critic, had his. Somewhere in an attic room in his parent's house, I bet there's a Mac hacker hard at work right now on a plan to prove he's got the same kind of "L33T SKILZ" as the Windows hackers do. :P

:: heads off to the trenches ::
Patrick
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 06:57:29 AM
IP: 65.43.165.179

GUNJACK AND LAIN>>

HEy, call me ASAP! I don't have your number and I need to talk to you two!
Gabe
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 12:57:02 AM
IP: 129.120.86.47

TGS proudly presents a Pendragon Season 4 Story . . .

Doomed

Written by Todd Jensen

Outline by Ed Reynolds

Click my name, go to the link at the top of the cr that says "Current Episode", or visit http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/ce.html to read this week's story.
DPH - [<--Click here to read this week's story]
AR, USA
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 12:09:32 AM
IP: 204.94.193.19

Yea!! Yea!!

I made some homemade quesadillas this weekend. Aside from two minor problems, everything turned out alright. What were the problems? I didn't have enough tortillas and didn't realize I needed to cook the ground beef with some seasoning. So I still have half the stuff left to cook up.

One yea down, another yea to go.

I finally got to the point where I can use my pc to do more than back-up and restore stuff to my calculator. I finally got to the point where I can write programs for TI-83+ on my pc and then transfer said programs to my calculator.

Speaking of calculator programs, I found one of my old programs for my old TI-85 (it's MIA): my blackjack program. No, bets were not included and the intelligence revolved around the dealer cheating, but the point is I have been looking for that program for a while.

Lately, I've been taking involuntary naps and it's been a struggle to get up in the morning. Going back to the time of City of Stone to watch that Demona broadcast sounds like a good way to catch up on some zzzs. One question, though. Has anyone bothered to estimate the economic impact the events of City of Stone had on NYC?

*disappears off to prepare to release a story*
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, October 6, 2003 11:32:16 PM
IP: 204.94.193.12

Thought of something just now, played around a bit, and came up with this:

!{ j00 (4|\| |~ 34|) 7#!5, &37 4 1!{3.
Lynati
Monday, October 6, 2003 11:18:39 PM
IP: 64.216.143.23

Fire Storm> <<Personally, simple contact explosives like that just won't do it. I need to see REAL carnage!>>: You've just been overexposed. Bring them in with the small stuff, and leave the good stuff to keep impressing them.
<>: Scary, isn't it?
<<Microsoft, on the other hand, is nothing BUT bowels>>: Surely there must be some spleen, as well. Maybe a bit of gallbladder.
<>: You're a freak. Do you know if you have another set of teeth waiting to come in for the rest?
<>: Very good. Though allegedly there's some acid in tea that helps wounds close. So for a bit, I used a pair of teabags as gauze.
<<Given the size of a trebuchets, I think it may be a little difficult>>: All the more fun. And what else are you going to do with your old jack o'lanterns?
<<so fund raising, debates, and public speaking are difficult, if not impossible>>: Use aides for the first and third, and go blow your opponents minds in the debates. Everything he wants done, he can pass notes for. He handwriting doesn't cause any more insanity than mine, right?
<<Well, we're out of cake>>: In that case, I'll have just a little death. Unless you have any anal sex?
<<He can make you gifts from solid metal>>: Speaking of Fullmetal (Alchemist), I'm not sure if I like the small voice coming from the giant suit of armor they used for Alphonse. Maybe I just need to see more of his character.

Vashkoda> <>: Britannia and Bretagne are pronounced almost the same, so it's easier to see Britannia just being a respelling of Bretagne, rather than an extension of Britain.

Bud Clare> <<You're odd. I'm just saying>>: Yes, I know. I relish it. But I still don't know where I'd get custom molded lucite.
<<He just has some spray crap with "oxiclean">>: Go and get a powder. We tried soaking the thing once, but boy did the comet work right away.

Todd> << if it's the source of the trouble, then they've apparently found a way to infect your computer without you downloading anything>>: I remember some vulnerabilities in Outlook that on looking a bad attachments could be tricked into automatically running them. There should be a way to turn that off, but still, I do like my Mozilla.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, October 6, 2003 10:56:10 PM
IP: 68.37.159.199

wee I was 9th!
darn you patrick about numbers... oh well maybe next week!
g2g
Sean
Monday, October 6, 2003 10:35:29 PM
IP: 207.6.190.83

Excuse me while I sit smugly behind my non-windows machine.
Josh
Monday, October 6, 2003 10:11:48 PM
IP: 64.161.26.6

Thanks, Vashkoda. The thing that I still find creepy is that I didn't even download the Microsoft patch; if it's the source of the trouble, then they've apparently found a way to infect your computer without you downloading anything. (All that I did was delete the patch at once, the same that I do with all unsolicited "spam"-type e-mails.)

So those patches were fakes? It's a good thing that I never did anything with any of them (I'd always viewed them as spam and simply deleted them the moment that they showed up in my inbox without another thought.)
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 6, 2003 09:28:00 PM
IP: 171.75.194.55

Microsoft does *not* email updates or patches. Your 'windows update' program will periodically connect to Microsoft's site and look for updates all on its own. Therefore, any email that claims to be from Microsoft is fake and probably laced with a virus. Todd, if you got a whole bunch of spam emails, it's likely that some spambot or infected computer picked up your email address. You'll just have to manually delete them, or set up a filter.
Vash
Monday, October 6, 2003 09:21:58 PM
IP: 129.98.31.184

Todd - I got the Microsoft Patch email AND the other one, without ever opening either. I don't think one caused the other.
Mec's Cat
Monday, October 6, 2003 09:13:16 PM
IP: 129.123.104.6

GRAYMONK - I'm sorry that you won't be able to post your review here for a while. I'm looking forward to when you are (though it looks as if I may have to wait an entire extra week).

Does anybody know if there are any unusual worms going about the Internet? Early this evening I got an unsolicited "Microsoft Patch" in my inbox. I wasn't interested and so immediately deleted it without downloading anything at all (not that I was suspicious of it at the time; I just looked upon it as spam). Now I'm finding my inbox flooded with "Delivery Failed" messages (over a hundred of them in the last hour or so) and the text in them indicated that a Microsoft Patch had something to do with it. Now I'm worried that the patch was really a virus of some sort in disguise, and if that was so, then this particular virus could be real trouble since all that I did with the patch was to immediately delete it. Does anybody know what could be going on here?
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 6, 2003 07:52:49 PM
IP: 171.75.194.101

Patrick> <<Eighth in the name of people who love to count!>>
You mean in the name of people who don't know how to count? You were sixth. You led everyone else astray. :P
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Dezi> <<Brandon has a cleaning bug up his butt>>
Lucky...
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lain> <<unfortunately, we lost charlie (one of the dopey cats) in syracuse on the way.>>
I don't blame him. It's easy to get lost in Syracuse. ;)
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Gside> <<Sounds promising, but just a paperweight wouldn't be enough. Perhaps a large replica of each tooth with the real tooth in the center...>>
You're odd. I'm just saying.

<<It's all about scouring agents.>>
He just has some spray crap with "oxiclean". Like that's going to help.
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Fire Storm> <<Well, there's always Renards old Fortress 1.>>
If they can hold their breath long enough...
Bud-Clare - [budclare@yahoo.com]
Monday, October 6, 2003 07:43:18 PM
IP: 66.67.201.63

<Oh yeah, nearly forgot:
BAD KITTY! NO! DOWN! NO MILK FOR YOU! >

Has anyone started a legal defense fund for that cat yet?

Question
Monday, October 6, 2003 02:27:55 PM
IP: 144.92.164.204

Spacebabie - <<I had no problem with Montrose being a buffoon. I read somewhere the idea voice for his character was Craig Ferguson, the man who played Nigel Wick on the Drew Carey Show and the character of Wick was a bit of goober.>> Mr. Wick? Really? I generally imagine Montrose being voiced by Alexis Denisof.

I'll try to post a review of "Fata Morgana" later this week, probably on the weekend. A mountain of assignments and a custodians' strike at school has severly limited my interenet time. I liked FM a lot though, it's somewhere in the 8.5/ 9 cyclops skeletons out of ten range.
Graymonk - [mmckinnongra@hotmail.com]
Monday, October 6, 2003 12:03:21 PM
IP: 198.164.140.192

11th in the name of procrastination!
i should really start posting when i first see the count off
Sean
Monday, October 6, 2003 11:46:41 AM
IP: 207.6.190.83

Tenth. TENTH?!
Niamhgold
Monday, October 6, 2003 10:14:46 AM
IP: 209.143.83.26

9!
Leo
Monday, October 6, 2003 08:36:28 AM
IP: 68.96.8.12

Eighth! Eighth in the name of people who love to count! Ah-ha-ha! :: thunder and lightning ::
Patrick
Monday, October 6, 2003 06:40:45 AM
IP: 65.43.165.179

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Lady Mystic
Head Admin of TGS CR Information
Monday, October 6, 2003 04:27:07 AM
IP: 68.248.1.52

Second!

Oh yeah, nearly forgot:
BAD KITTY! NO! DOWN! NO MILK FOR YOU!
FIre Storm
Monday, October 6, 2003 02:50:48 AM
IP: 65.114.91.3

Fifth. Again.
Bud-Clare
Monday, October 6, 2003 02:24:52 AM
IP: 66.67.201.63

4th.
Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, October 6, 2003 02:20:42 AM
IP: 68.37.159.199

DPH> ah, good. Hope those updates come soon.

Gside> "Where else would we have gotten Rule Britannia from?" ??? I don't get it.

Jim R.> Any progress on your site? ;)
Vash
Monday, October 6, 2003 02:02:01 AM
IP: 129.98.127.164

Two for Two!
Fire Storm and Lady Mystic
Monday, October 6, 2003 01:44:48 AM
IP: 65.114.91.3

Sweet! I'm first!
Dezi
Monday, October 6, 2003 01:42:23 AM
IP: 68.58.158.101