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What does it take to lure me into here? A discussion on eggses, eggses precious eggsssess.

I’m going to try to at least post once a week in here.

The names for the 2004 hurricane season: The first storm is named Alex. I’m pretty sure Owen made jokes ala Hurricane Alex was here when he cleaned up after him. And the third Hurrican…Charlie. Okay I hear too many people laughing in my head now.

Gargoyle eggs hardening to stone: I never thought they were permanently stone, and I never thought of them turning to stone on the inside. I originally thought they would harden to stone during the sunrise and revert to eggshell at sunset.

Weregoyle eggs: different gestation than gargoyle eggs. Six months within the womb and three months out in the air before hatching. I want to keep them different from gargoyles and humans. The shell is always shell day and night. If they hatch during the day when the hatchlings are in human from they have special egg claws to tear through the shell. The egg claws come off when the infants are cleaned up for the first time.

Bud-Claire<<<Towel Day again.>>>I always keep 42 for just in case.<<<"The shell is permanently stone like after the first day. The insides transform back and forth like gargs." I really don’t see how that could work.

Dezi<<<And I got a Scott McNeil, voice of Wolverine, Xmen Evolution, and Kouga, Inu Yasha, signed a Inu. poster for me!>>>You met Duo Maxwell! Yeah he was also the voice of Duo for GW and Piccolo in DBZ.<<<He even did this little skit thing doing like five characters from Beast Wars.>>>I can picture Jeff Benet doing the same.<<>> Congrats<<>>Reminds me of Hagrid

Tharos<<<Today was my last day of high school>>>Congrats on graduating.

Spike<<<Why bother hiding the eggs deep inside the castle keep?>>>I guess if they are stone they need protecting. If a mace can smash a statue it could smash a stone egg.

Brutis<<<what is the name of the other site the one yall are talking about i dont know of it>>>That would be the main site. http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/comment.php

Martin<<>>Unless the stone skin is very fine and instantly dissolves, becoming protein rich nutrients.<<<Stealing more and more of the free space>>>That could explain why those eggs are huge.

Firestorm<<<Maybe they are reabsorbed?>>> That would make a lot more sense.

Lynati>>>Well he was checking out her butt.

Patrick<<<When an egg is laid, the organism inside is just a small cluster of cells.>>>Another good point…although we don’t know how much they developed when the eggs are six month within the womb.<<<Can you imagine what she'd be like if every four weeks she had to lay an egg the size of a large watermelon?>>>and she is close to laying in my fic verse. I need to do a scene where she gets really snappy. Thank you.

Spacebabie - [spacebabie@hotmail.com]
Orlando, Florida, U.S.A
Monday, May 31, 2004 11:25:52 AM
IP: 4.235.30.80

<<Reptiles and amphibians will only lay eggs after mating>>

I think Iguanas lay dud eggs too. When I was researching Iguana care, I think there was mention that female Iguanas will lay unfertalized eggs.
Gabriel
Monday, May 31, 2004 08:17:22 AM
IP: 129.120.84.25

Todd> <<genetically modify the gargoyles to have them lay eggs more often and in larger amounts>>: And remember to bump up the number of eggs that ripen at puberty unless you want all the females to hit menopause early.

Kathy> <<Duck eggs make great pound cake and lousy eggs over easy. Goose eggs make terrific quiche>>: Now we just have to figure out what hummingbird and ostrich eggs are good for and follow the curve up.

Fire Storm> <<Some like classic rock (kewl), some like rap (lame), some even like country <shiver>>>: Average it out to the middle, and you'll be happy.
<<we were kinda thinking of "Queen - You're my best friend," but you really can't dance to it, ya know?>>: Channel the ghost of Freddie Mercury and have him rearrange it.
<<Not a frelling clue>>: I'm somewhat disappointed that you didn't have anything to say about my implication that you thought of your mother as a sexpot.
<<Awww... It likes you! It's trying to hug you!>>: That is nice, but all the same, I don't know it well enough for it to be a french hug.
<<Oh please no>>: And yes, once again, I have created a new nightmare.
<<when ARE you coming up, and whereabouts?>>: Probably sometime after the yearbook is finished, and then we'll be heading off to a suburb of Chicago.
<<She would be a MAJOR downer>>: But doesn't every wedding have to have someone cry? Granted, it wouldn't be in that "I always cry at weddings" way, but you take what you can get.
<<which they TOTALLY took the wrong way>>: I guess you'll just have to win them over with your cooking skills. But a tip: find someone else be the main dish.
<>: It's mostly oil and egg, it's just not something you generally think of as eggy.

Patrick> <<Can you imagine what she'd be like if every four weeks she had to lay an egg the size of a large watermelon?>>: Well, at least she'd be non aerodynamic for a good bit of the month.

Patrick> <<which came first, the chicken or the egg?>>: Depends on how you define what kind of egg it is, by who laid it or what was in it.

Kathy> <<The shells are perfectly hard and normal>>: And you might have cracked a few open for breakfast.
<<Birds like turkeys have been bred to enormous size so that they nearly always have to be artificially inseminated>>: The males must be disappointed.

Brutis> <<there biological propeties would be slitly similar to ours in the fact that we cannot get pregnant without fertilization>>: But our females still flush out any prepared eggs (along with the beginnings of cushioning material) if they haven't been fertilized.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, May 31, 2004 02:53:57 AM
IP: 69.141.212.54

Yes, that's what I meant. I meant that human females produce unfertilized eggs as well, only THEIRS don't have hard shells 8) It's good to know someone can interpret my language.
Josh
Monday, May 31, 2004 01:20:09 AM
IP: 69.162.70.8

So is it only certain birds, like chickens, that lay unfertilized eggs? Or can all birds do it?

Reptiles and amphibians will only lay eggs after mating. But gargoyles are a lot more mammalian than they are reptilian or amphibian. And with the right mixture of drugs and hormones... who's to say what could happen.
Patrick
Monday, May 31, 2004 01:08:16 AM
IP: 69.165.27.90

Brutis: Top of my head. But, then again, Hyena DID say that she wondered if Gargoyles tasted like chicken in the cartoon.
Fire Storm
Monday, May 31, 2004 12:45:00 AM
IP: 65.114.91.3

Kathy > I think that Josh meant that human females produce eggs without hard shells ;)
Christine
Monday, May 31, 2004 12:34:12 AM
IP: 67.136.147.208

hey yall...

actually josh is right a chicken will lay eggs regardles but w/o the rooster for the male part, the eggs will remain eggs.

patrick>> actualy i dont think that a garg would lay an egg w/o (doing the do). i can imagin that there biological propeties would be slitly similar to ours in the fact that we cannot get pregnant without fertilization. so i dont think a "egg farm" would even be possible.

patrick>> that would be intresting to see in the grocery store.
grade A small, medium, large, exlarge
grade A gargoyle
and can you immagin the ammount of matrials it would take to make the foam/cardboard containers. (they think we have a trash prob now)

apep>> WB i see you are here again. i have a friend in canada who says that the gargoyles is only on on satelite. said that there was not enuf demand for the show as there is here. ...btw rember when you wanted to know if i was brooklyn....hehehe here i stand...come detective...;)

fire storm>> when you posted earlier today...like right before me where did you read that thought on jackel and hyena or was that off the top of your head...

well its late
later yall.
Brutis - [creature_of_the_night_20042004@yahoo.com]
Hammond, Louisiana, Usa
Monday, May 31, 2004 12:12:35 AM
IP: 205.214.170.231

Thanks for clearing that up. I cracked an egg open once from a carton purchased at the supermarket, and there was an embryo in there. As I was throwing out the cake batter, someone in my family commented that it had probably happened because the farmer waited too long to collect the eggs. Hence my thinking all this time that chickens only lay fertilized eggs.

So connecting this back to that comment that was made earlier... if some scientist could devise a way to make female gargoyles lay eggs on a much more frequent timetable, and if the males were be kept away, then gargoyles could produce non-viable eggs for use as food just as chickens do.

Wow... what a weird storyline that could become. Especially when it comes time to figure out how to get the styrofoam container holding a dozen of 'em into a grocery bag. :P
Patrick
Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:44:43 PM
IP: 69.165.27.90

I should have concluded: unfertilized egg = no chick. Fertile egg + some luck and about 21 days = chick
kathy
Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:10:14 PM
IP: 66.82.192.1

Josh > What are you talking about? Yes, chickens and other birds lay eggs without the presence of a rooster. The shells are perfectly hard and normal. Occasionally, there is a soft or shell-less egg, but this is caused by either an injury to the hen or a shortage of calcium in the diet. The eggs won't be fertile unless there is a rooster present to fertilize them.

Birds like turkeys have been bred to enormous size so that they nearly always have to be artificially inseminated. Heritage breed turkeys ( the kinds that I raise) are small enough to breed naturally.
kathy
Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:03:53 PM
IP: 66.82.192.1

Patrick: Having worked on a ranch, I can assure you that hens will lay eggs without a rooster present (much like human females, though they do it without the hard shell - okay sorry for that image). I know this because I harvested eggs every morning, with no rooster present.

And the egg came first. Darwin says that while the creature that came from the egg matches our genetic definition of "chicken", the creature that laid the egg was ALMOST a chicken.
Josh
Sunday, May 30, 2004 10:30:23 PM
IP: 69.162.70.8

Fertility drugs for gargoyles to increase the frequency of egg-laying... sounds like a job for Anton Sevarius. Of course, Demona's pretty bad tempered as it is. Can you imagine what she'd be like if every four weeks she had to lay an egg the size of a large watermelon?

Kathy - I bet you can answer this. There something I've never been clear on regarding chicken eggs. Does a rooster need to be present for the female chickens to produce eggs? Are all chicken eggs able to grow into chickens if they are not "harvested," or will chickens lay unfertilized eggs?

And for that matter... which came first, the chicken or the egg? ;)

68 days left until The Gathering 2004 in Montreal, Quebec!
5 days left until "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" opens.
Patrick
Sunday, May 30, 2004 09:55:53 PM
IP: 69.165.27.90

is a major fan of gargoyles wants to know why gargoyles is not in canada any more *is upset*>:(
apep
Sunday, May 30, 2004 09:07:35 PM
IP: 64.12.116.144

Why do I have the feeling that Greg's going to be bombarded with egg questions now at the Gathering? (At least it's better than being bombarded with eggs.)
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, May 30, 2004 06:26:51 PM
IP: 4.245.19.12

hey yall

Martin M>>> i thought about it a little more. the stone may be a diffrnt on a molecular level so that an enzyme in an embryo can reliquify the stone. like the stone is the same but diffrent (if that makes any since)

later yall.
Brutis - [creature_of_the_night_20042004@yahoo.com]
Hammond, Louisiana, Usa
Sunday, May 30, 2004 06:04:13 PM
IP: 205.214.170.231

Brutis: <did u get my last email on the E.V. in calif. if you did then drop me a line>
w3rd

Gside: <Well, these should mainly be people that like you and that you like, and that should mean similar tastes in music, so it probably winds up meaning stuff that won't annoy you.>
Family. MANY different types of music. Some like classic rock (kewl), some like rap (lame), some even like country <shiver>
<Okay, so what do you associate with the Lady>
I dunno... we were talking about this and we were kinda thinking of "Queen - You're my best friend," but you really can't dance to it, ya know?
<what does she want for her dance with her father?>
Not a frelling clue.
<"Let me introduce you to my single friends, and these are their wives.">
I know... I was thinking of the guys at work and they are all either married or very close to it.
<It'd be too annoying plowing up all the iron lumps next year.>
But it would be fun finding charred bits of mice!
<And they seem to do very well on their own, too. They're always very friendly to all the new faces they meet.>
"Awww... It likes you! It's trying to hug you!"
<Do you have to have another wedding if you're late?>
Oh please no!
<Only if you get drunk and go to sleep first>
Hmm... let me check my notes...
So... when ARE you coming up, and whereabouts?
<She's the black sheep of the family?>
Na. They are habitual mourners. LM's grandmother was still mourning her daughters death (LM's mom) when LM's grandfather died (10 years after LM's mom). So she is most likely in a horrible state of mourning, and quite frankly, I am glad she isn't coming. She would be a MAJOR downer.
<They don't want to have any xenomorphs in the family?>
I know! I mean, what's not to like? Sure, sure, I am black shelled, I have children from a previous "relationship," and one of my children wanted a hug from LM's grandfather when they first met, which they TOTALLY took the wrong way
<It'd have to be as a delicacy, don't get a frequent enough clutch.>
Oh yeah. I'd say a few million per on the black market.
<And how about the merangue? Or just mayo.>
I can see the meringue, but not the mayo.

Todd: <Not a very practicable one, though>
Well, it would be viable if you raided a rookery during the daytime and grabbed one or two.
<but also you'll wind up dooming the species to extinction>
I was trying to figure out how damaging it would be to the species if an entire breeding season was lost (IE: Future Tense). I figured it would be a horrible loss, but the species COULD come back. I think that gargoyles are on their way to extinction anyway
<Of course, whoever's behind the scene could always genetically modify the gargoyles to have them lay eggs more often and in larger amounts>
I think they would have to do that species wide, actually. Changing it to every 5 years instead of every 20 would make a HUGE difference in the viability of the species.

Thought:
Jackal and Hyena are carving up a piece of roast gargoyle leg (the rest got away). Hyena takes a bite and frowns.
"Damn. It DOES taste just like chicken."
Fire Storm
Sunday, May 30, 2004 06:01:16 PM
IP: 65.114.91.3

Why wait for "Ask Greg"? Just come to The Gathering and find out in person!

Greg really is totally off on this stone transition egg thing, though.

Also, different eggs are better suited for different things. Duck eggs make great pound cake and lousy eggs over easy. Goose eggs make terrific quiche and I'm pretty sure that a turkey egg will substitute any place you can use a chicken egg. I'm not sure where you'd even start with a gargoyle egg. Brioche for a crowd maybe? ;)

kathy
Sunday, May 30, 2004 02:37:50 PM
IP: 66.82.192.1

Patrick> <<The egg shell is not a living extension of the embryo, it's just a protective covering.>>
It's also purple, which stone, as a rule, isn't. (Not _that_ purple, anyway.) It's probably safe to assume that the shell just has some structural similarities to stone skin, making it a bit stronger than normal egg shells. (It still couldn't be too strong, obviously, since the babies need to be able to get out eventually.)

Maybe gargoyles don't actually turn to stone for the first time until very close to their hatching day, but starting much earlier than that begin to undergo a similar, but less invasive, transformation. The stone tranformation, however the hell it works, would have to be awfully complicated (not to mention being a huge strain on a fetus), so there might be one or more intermediate stages as the fetus develops, some kind of fetal precursor to "stone" sleep.
Bud-Clare
Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:15:08 PM
IP: 66.67.201.63

When "Ask Greg" becomes operational again, we really ought to ask Greg about these issues (it's more than likely that he simply wasn't aware of them, since, by his own admission, he's not a biology expert), to see what he has to say about them.

Raising gargoyles for their eggs? Now there's a sick and twisted thought. Not a very practicable one, though, since if they only lay one egg every twenty years per female, not only will you not have a frequent supply of them, but also you'll wind up dooming the species to extinction unless you choose only a few eggs. (Of course, whoever's behind the scene could always genetically modify the gargoyles to have them lay eggs more often and in larger amounts.)
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, May 30, 2004 06:35:31 AM
IP: 4.244.12.130

Sorry, I was busy yesterday. So, let's see...

Lynati>I know that they turn only on the outside, but where is then point in "The insides transform back and forth" for the egg. I still can't understand it right.

Brutis>I think that reabsorbing would be a very good idea. I like this theory. The only problem now is to find a way to liquidate stone but not to harm the embryo while doing it.

Have a nice Sunday everyone.
Martin M
Fulda , Hessen, Germanz
Sunday, May 30, 2004 05:49:15 AM
IP: 217.84.159.155

Christine> <>: Instead of M&Ms this year, how about loading him up with eggs this year. Bonus points for ostrich.

Fire Storm> <<Someone raising Gargoyles as cattle and for their eggs>>: It'd have to be as a delicacy, don't get a frequent enough clutch.
<<Imagine the cakes you could make with those!>>: And how about the merangue? Or just mayo.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:37:30 AM
IP: 69.141.212.54

Odd yet sick thought: Someone raising Gargoyles as cattle and for their eggs.

Mmmmm... giant eggs...

Imagine the cakes you could make with those!
...
Oh dear lord... do I or do I not include that in a story? Brooklyn commenting to Broadway:
Brook: "Imagine the omelet you could make with that!"
Broad: "No, I was thinking more of a cake."
Angela: "WILL YOU TWO STOP THAT! BROOKLYN, THIS IS YOUR CHILD!"
Brook: "Yeah... but that's not going to stop me from thinking it!"
Fire Storm
Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:31:11 AM
IP: 65.114.91.3

How could the embryo inside a freshly laid gargoyle egg have a stone skin to shed? Skin has to grow and develop just like any other organ. When an egg is laid, the organism inside is just a small cluster of cells.

Likewise, I have a hard time buying into the idea that the eggs themselves turn to stone after the first night. The egg shell is not a living extension of the embryo, it's just a protective covering.

69 days left until The Gathering 2004 in Montreal, Quebec!
Patrick
Saturday, May 29, 2004 10:56:00 PM
IP: 69.165.27.90

hey yall

i finally found that site i was looking for it is giving me some new info on the 2005 gathering as well.
they say that there are no bids for a convention for 2005. ide love to host one down here but theyr are just too many issues that ide have to deal with. money, space, and about a million other things.
ide even love to attend a gathering but i aint driving my 12 y/o tempo to canada and i cant afford to fly. so i am out of luck again.

i still think that the stone inside the eggs must serve some puropse. it must be reabsorbed or something. i just dont know though.

ok thats enuf of my yapping
later yall...
Brutis - [<<<found that site finally]
Hammond, Louisiana, Usa
Saturday, May 29, 2004 10:49:15 PM
IP: 205.214.170.231

Spike> <<That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.>>
I wish I had your life, then.
Bud-Clare
Saturday, May 29, 2004 10:18:21 PM
IP: 66.67.201.63

and now, for the Disturbing Screencap of the Day...
From Awakenings:
http://lynativerse.artchicks.org/Gargoyles/BrookElisa_007.jpg
Lynati
Saturday, May 29, 2004 09:10:39 PM
IP: 64.219.129.114

Spike > hear, hear on the egg thing! I do admire him, you know that I do, but sometimes ... honestly! What's he thinking?
Christine - [christine@sabledrake.com]
Saturday, May 29, 2004 07:35:28 PM
IP: 67.136.137.111

hey yall...

gsuide>> no that is not the site i was refering to. i am looking for it as i write this. i found it on a google serch and bookmarked it but i renamed the file and now i cannot find the proper site again. give me a while ill get it.

later yall
Brutis - [creature_of_the_night_20042004@yahoo.com]
Hammond, Louisiana, Usa
Saturday, May 29, 2004 02:17:51 PM
IP: 205.214.170.231

Spike> <<Why would Princess Katherine waste turning stone eggs?>>: I wouldn't think turning depends on shell composition.
<<Why bother hiding the eggs deep inside the castle keep?>>: It's out of the way?

Brutis> <<what is the name of the other site>>: You mean s8.org? It's the domain this CR is housed on (it's not the same as the main TGS site), as well as the home of another CR and Ask Greg (Weisman).

Martin> <<those left-overs would have to accumulate inside the egg. Stealing more and more of the free space>>: But still, matter cannot be created or destroyed. So either most of it would come from gas inhaled through the shell (which would probably take a lot of air), or it's just a flow from yolk to waste shards.

Fire Storm> <<Bsides... I could care less what others thought>>: Well, these should mainly be people that like you and that you like, and that should mean similar tastes in music, so it probably winds up meaning stuff that won't annoy you.
<<Tom Jones - Sexpot>>: Okay, so what do you associate with the Lady (Tom Jones's Delilah?), and what does she want for her dance with her father?
<<Wait... hell... ok, so they are. I forgot about their wives>>: "Let me introduce you to my single friends, and these are their wives."
<<Unless, of course, the farmers are making thermite to help control the rodent population>>: It'd be too annoying plowing up all the iron lumps next year.
<<Thankfully I just leave the eggs wherever and stop caring>>: And they seem to do very well on their own, too. They're always very friendly to all the new faces they meet.
<<when I turn in the signed license within 10 days of the wedding>>: Do you have to have another wedding if you're late?
<<Say, when you come up, ya wanna go camping?>>: Only if you get drunk and go to sleep first.
<<If etiquette was really important, LM's grandmother would come>>: She's the black sheep of the family? They don't want to have any xenomorphs in the family?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Saturday, May 29, 2004 01:25:11 AM
IP: 69.141.212.54

Firestorm If etiquette was really important, LM's grandmother would come and we would actually care what the family thought- Sometimes you just got to do what you think is right my fiance had problems fiquring out who to invite based on "etiquette" like she has 2 cousins she has not seen since her aunt died and prior to that she use to baby sit them and stuff, the family use to even send birthday gifts with not even a thank, we did not include them on our invite, why bother if some is the self centered, my father even paid for the aunt's funeral dinner with out even a thank you for it. You invite those you love and those who love you will be at the wedding, the rest aren't worth. A dance floor who needs to spend the money they people you care about will be glad you shared you special day with them. BTW what state are you getting married in?
froggleggs
Friday, May 28, 2004 11:54:19 PM
IP: 69.212.210.45

hey yall

i was thinking on the biology questions. i would think that the little gargs inside the eggs stone but in what (i forgot who) somone said that the stone is possibly reabsorbed for some internal use. the rookeries are pretty dark and damp so the stone may act as some kind of nutirents or like a sponge for moisture or something like that. or at least that is my theroy.

fire storm>> did u get my last email on the E.V. in calif. if you did then drop me a line i know your buisy and all but you couold at least say hi.

room>> has anyone heard anything on a gargoyles movie. i have another site (ill get the addy) that says that a movie is sorta in the process. depending on if a script can be settled upon. just curious to see if anyone has heard anthing like this.

well its 11 here
later yall...
Brutis - [creature_of_the_night_20042004@yahoo.com]
Hammond, Louisiana, Usa
Friday, May 28, 2004 11:31:23 PM
IP: 205.214.170.231

Greetings all. Not much to say right now, but I'm in Singapre and it's great. The place is tropcial and very clean. I could cosnider living here. I'm styaing in Chinatown at a palce for 27.50 a night. My own room but its tiny.

More info later.
Green Baron - [greenbaron@hotmail.com]
Friday, May 28, 2004 10:25:02 PM
IP: 192.169.41.42

I don't have much time, but I would like to add a quick 2 cents on the egg topic. I think that it should be noted that stone can be quite permeable to gases, it all depends on it's composition. If we can assume that a gargoyles "stone" skin is probably more of an organic lattice, its permeability to gasses could be maintained. I'll post more later.

Yggdrasil - [eng050599@hotmail.com]
Ontario, Canada
Friday, May 28, 2004 10:05:44 PM
IP: 66.185.84.203

Egg thing - It does seem silly that they would be stone, the breathable shell being a good point and also it is not unreasonable to believer that the shell would protect the developing embryo from the change. Just when considering how violently the gargs throw their stone skin to imagine and embryo doign this every night you would have the next ten years of a Rookery mother having to go right all the eggs that have wiggled and moved on their own.

Or maybe that's a bad point but was a thought that I had.

*small plug*
updated my site, art stuff, storry stuff, a couple of photos.

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Revel - [<<---------New Stuff]
the bayou city, tx
Friday, May 28, 2004 09:01:26 PM
IP: 68.119.236.69

Gside: <Stuff that's easy to dance to, and is accepted by everyone>
No dance floor (would have cost us $1500 for the floor and DJ).
Bsides... I could care less what others thought
<Or a song you associate with the person>
Tom Jones - Sexpot
<Is the monkey still allowed?>
No, but I am considering the Hamster Dance
<Just wait a while and what friends you have will probably end up getting married.>
Maybe. But we shall see. Wait... hell... ok, so they are. I forgot about their wives.
<The farmers must use it as an additive. I can't see them adding it directly>
I think that's how it's used. Unless, of course, the farmers are making thermite to help control the rodent population
<From my point of view, I'd say you've got three out of four (cooking, bills, and motherhood).>
It's not easy having that many kids. Thankfully I just leave the eggs wherever and stop caring.
<It's probably good money for the state, and what with all the other costs associated with marriage, most couples probably wouldn't notice another little bit.>
Yeah, I know, but my Dog the fees they come up with! I have already paid about $12 in PARKING, and I know I will have to spend another $5 when I turn in the signed license within 10 days of the wedding
<And stop what might be an endless source of amusement?>
And the Bash has spoken... very true.
<We were planning on going out thataway to visit family, but I think it'd happen a bit too late.>
Say, when you come up, ya wanna go camping?
<Besides, I don't think it's good etiquette to have some guy you just saw face to face that day to be your best man.>
Oh, like I would care. If etiquette was really important, LM's grandmother would come and we would actually care what the family thought.

Biology: I seriously doubt that the shells are always stone. As for changing back and forth... you know, I never really thought about the stone fragments in the egg. Maybe they are reabsorbed?

(started a REALLY long post about gargoyles, biology, and natural selection, but I'll post that on a site or something.)
Fire Storm
Friday, May 28, 2004 08:27:13 PM
IP: 65.114.91.3

Martin: I think your premise is flawed; after all, stone skin doesn't pile up inside gargoyle organs, it is only on the outside of their form- clothes included. We never saw the gargs taking off their loincloths to shake out stone shards...(not that we *would*, but still.) It would follow that only the very outside of the shell of the egg would shed its "skin", if any part of it was to shed.
Lynati
Friday, May 28, 2004 07:50:33 PM
IP: 67.64.41.66

Bio discussion>><<"The shell is permanently stone like after the first day. The insides transform back and forth like gargs.">>
Ok, if we take this as a fact, then I have one question: Wouldn't it get quite tight inside the egg? I mean, if they turn to stone and back again, they would leave left-overs of their stone skin behind. And those left-overs would have to accumulate inside the egg. Stealing more and more of the free space.

I hope this opens up new paths for the discussion.

Martin M
Fulda, Hessen, Germany
Friday, May 28, 2004 06:30:05 PM
IP: 217.84.154.33

hey yall.

i like the biology discussion...
what is the name of the other site the one yall are talking about i dont know of it i found this one by accident on a net serch one day.

gotta run
later yall
Brutis - [creature_of_the_night_20042004@yahoo.com]
Hammond, Louisiana, Usa
Friday, May 28, 2004 05:37:51 PM
IP: 68.155.126.24

*gives a skeptic look at Greg's egg info*

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why would Princess Katherine waste turning stone eggs? How could the eggs absorb oxygen through a stone shell? Why bother hiding the eggs deep inside the castle keep? St. Greg can go jump in the lake... he doesn't know what he's talking about.

*laughs because Spike frequently said that when SHE was on the TGS staff....*
Spike
Friday, May 28, 2004 05:06:24 PM
IP: 209.30.65.2

kathy> Now I'm curious, too. Found this in Ask Greg:

"The shell is permanently stone like after the first day. The insides transform back and forth like gargs."

So, it might be tough to tell which eggs aren't going to hatch.
Bud-Clare
Friday, May 28, 2004 04:30:59 PM
IP: 66.67.201.63

Am I too understand the WB's schedule tomorrow to say they are showing YuGiOh at 7am? central time? If not, what time is it?
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, May 28, 2004 02:54:22 PM
IP: 67.14.195.31

Hi Spike ::waves:: Yep, an egg with defective genetics won't hatch. If the embryo starts dividing and then hits a terminal defect the process stops. If that happens in an incubator and you don't catch it things can get very messy because a rotten egg in a room environment goes "Boom!" or possibly "Pop!" and "Splat!" Thankfully, that's not happened to me (yet). People that hatch eggs in incubators use a process called candling to check the viability of their hatch. It is as it sounds. You hold the egg over a strong light source and view the development of air sac, veining and so forth. Eggs that are good go back in the 'bator. Eggs that are bad are carefully disposed of.

Now I'm wondering if gargoyles candle their rookeries... maybe some kind of moon ceremony with small chamber and a big reflector... Gee, thanks, Spike. <g>

kathy
Friday, May 28, 2004 09:55:52 AM
IP: 66.82.192.1

SPIKE - Greg Weisman said that gargoyle beasts are a separate species than gargoyles (though in the same basic group) which simply happen to live with them as domesticated animals, so I'd say from that that gargoyle beasts come from gargoyle beast eggs rather than from gargoyle eggs that didn't have the right DNA. (It'd be interesting to ask Greg about the other questions, although I suspect that, since by his own admission he's not a biology expert, he might not have worked out the answers or even been aware of the question.)
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Friday, May 28, 2004 08:41:34 AM
IP: 4.245.18.34

Heh... a poster over in the S8 chat came up with a good question that I thought I'd relay over here for the people doing the gargoyle biology panel at G'04.

<<I hope Ask Greg is back up soon. I've got a neat biology question.. concerning what happens in the event of a lack of pregnancy. The obvious answer is a period, but egglayers tend to just lay an egg anyway that's no good for babies, only for eatin'. ^_^'
Kairu Hakubi - [sixsidedsapphire@hotmail.com]
space, CA, universe
Friday, May 28, 2004 04:42:19 AM
IP: 66.41.162.27>>

The more I think about this question, the more interesting it becomes. Is this how gargoyle beasts come about? An egg with not enough DNA pairs to make a fully sapient gargoyle? If it's an egg with no embryo, wouldn't it go rotten after a while? Is a stinking rookery the sign of a bad breeding season?

*fully expects kathy to jump in, since she's been rainsing all those ducks and other poultry*
Spike
Friday, May 28, 2004 08:15:28 AM
IP: 209.30.65.2

adendum:

Since he hasn't yet been by to mention it, Aaron (with Mara and myself helping) has a new MiST up in the Gargs Fic Archive. It is full of truly terrifying lesbian sex scenes (in the later parts), so I suggest that only those with strong stomachs take a look.

http://fanfic.gargoyles-fans.org/past30.php
Lynati
Friday, May 28, 2004 01:56:35 AM
IP: 66.142.57.233

First off, thankees to everyone who 'gradulated me on graduating. My brain has mostly recouped. Except for the part that makes me black out and have seizures on airplanes, I'm still working on getting a doctor to look at that. But anyway.

[Philly] Yes, Emambu is a local. However, he still has a year left in college and already turned down an offer to help with the 2005 Vegas bid (which I have confirmation IS being submitted, if it has not already)...but you could always ask him to help for a later con.

Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:56:40 PM
IP: 66.142.57.233

Allaine> <<Is anyone here from the greater Phila region?>>: I believe Emambu is (and my brother, but that has nothing to do with this).

Tharos> Congratulations.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:42:28 PM
IP: 69.141.212.54

Lady - thanks for answering, I read your profile, I am sorry about the loss of your mother, I also lost a family member to cancer, that has to be harder though when it is your own mother. Death alone is not easy in general, I just lost another family member in April of old age but it still is not easy.

Congratulations on getting married it is coming up soon, I am sure life is pretty crazy right now for you.

froggleggs
Thursday, May 27, 2004 04:39:45 PM
IP: 65.161.188.11

***** TGS CR INFORMATION UPDATE *****

CR ARCHIVE:

The 2004 archive has been updated to include the weeks of April 26th, 2004 through May 24th, 2004, for a total of four newly added files.

2004 Archive:
>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/2004/

Framed Archive:
>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/frames.html

CR MEMBERS:

Yggdrasil's profile has been added. The statistics and calendar pages were updated accordingly.

>> http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/members/

***** END UPDATE *****
Lady Mystic
Head Admin of TGS CR Information
Thursday, May 27, 2004 04:31:43 PM
IP: 68.249.239.47

Wooh! Today was my last day of high school. Now I can concentrate on the important stuff, as soon as I figure out what it is. I suppose I'll start with recording an album and sending it everywhere so I can become a huge rock star and not have to pay for college. Bleh. Hey, it could happen!
Tharos
Thursday, May 27, 2004 03:35:27 PM
IP: 69.40.143.202

if theres anyone in the greater dallas TX area who is in the market for adopting or fostering-until-adoption (with all supplies provided) a family of 3 lovely friendly rescued cats (two mamas (who are sisters) and the only remaining one of their fluffy orange babies, though the baby could go separate), or knows someone who might be in the market, PLEASE let me know. ive harassed all the no-kill shelters in the area that i could find, and theyre all full up and cant take them (it being kitten season and all).
they are VERY sweet little babies. very skinny and starved-looking right now, with ribs and spines sticking out, but very nice, calm and loving personalities.
if anyone has any ideas for help, please drop me a line.
lain
Thursday, May 27, 2004 03:09:27 PM
IP: 4.7.35.8

As a matter of Philly pride (and not having to pay for airline tickets), I'm considering mounting a last-ditch bid for the 2005 Gathering. Is anyone here from the greater Phila region? I need a second person (a third or fourth would be nice too).

Sincerely, Allaine
Allaine - [eac2nd@yahoo.com]
Philadelphia, PA
Thursday, May 27, 2004 09:28:59 AM
IP: 66.153.112.209

Ah, the fun up taking out myrtle...

Fire Storm> <<It's the background songs at the reception>>: Stuff that's easy to dance to, and is accepted by everyone. Motown and disco, maybe some funk if you're feeling adventerous, or swing if you want something classier.
<<the father/daughter dance, mother/son dance, and couple first dance that are difficult to pick out>>: Tom Lehrer's Oedipus Rex, Oingo Boingo's Little Grils, and Earth Wind and Fire's When the Love Has Gone. Or a song you associate with the person, if you don't want the aunt brigate tut tutting about it for the rest of their lives.
<<And no chicken dance>>: Is the monkey still allowed?
<<since I don't have many (or really any) local married male friends, that's a bit unlikely>>: Just wait a while and what friends you have will probably end up getting married.
<>: The farmers must use it as an additive. I can't see them adding it directly.
<<Boring?>>: Go through each drawer and make sure there's a pair of tongs, two beakers, two graduated cylinders...
<<Looks like I am half way there>>: From my point of view, I'd say you've got three out of four (cooking, bills, and motherhood).
<<in the state of Michigan, it costs $150 to change your name, even if you are getting married>>: It's probably good money for the state, and what with all the other costs associated with marriage, most couples probably wouldn't notice another little bit.
<<But do I still get to kill them afterwards?>>: And stop what might be an endless source of amusement? And remember, http://www.bash.org/?1730
<>: We were planning on going out thataway to visit family, but I think it'd happen a bit too late. Besides, I don't think it's good etiquette to have some guy you just saw face to face that day to be your best man.

Brutis> <<nothing original to say just endlass posting on top of other posting huh>>: Pretty much, I like a running dialog.

Is it bad to mention your name?> <<things to keep in mind when listening to all reports coming out of the office of homeland security>>: In a similar vein, found through Kung Fool: http://www.poe-news.com/features.php?feat=31845

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, May 27, 2004 12:45:22 AM
IP: 69.141.212.54

hey yall

hey is anyone else here regestured with the newsletter for the gathering of the gargoyles. i just got an email saying that they havent gotten any bids yet. is this just them trying to get more then one or should we be worried cause it says that they are worring about the 2005 gathereing...shoud we be worried or is this just the general worry.

well if yall hear anything on this email me or mail me and ill forward the message.
later yall
Brutis - [creature_of_the_night_20042004@yahoo.com]
hammond, louisiana, usa
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 10:39:40 PM
IP: 65.0.126.236

I've been offline for a few days, getting moved into a new house and battling SBC to get my phone hooked up. But now I'm back, and so is the countdown. So here we go...

37 days left to submit entries for the Music Video contest (deadline is July 1).
42 days left to reserve your hotel room at the Delta Centre-Ville (deadline is July 6 at noon).
51 days left to pre-register for The Gathering 2004 (deadline is July 15).

And finally...

72 days left until The Gathering 2004 in Montreal, Quebec!
Patrick
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 09:59:38 PM
IP: 69.165.27.90

As for third party things they have a checkbox for always accept plugins from this company... I want something similar for always DENY attempts from this company -- then I can put gain.gator as one I do not want and shockwave as one I do not want and alexis as one I do not want -- etc.

At the very least I would like a way to trick it into thinking I have it installed when I dont(assuming that doesnt mean a string of random characters on my screen)...

Will have to look into denying all third party stuff -- but I would have to turn that on and off every time I went to trendmicros site to scan for viruses.
silvadel
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 06:00:31 PM
IP: 24.225.221.135

things to keep in mind when listening to all reports coming out of the office of homeland security:
miss me? - [<<-- ] ; )]
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 05:18:55 PM
IP: 4.7.35.8

hey yall...

wow nothing original to say just endlass posting on top of other posting huh. well let me jump in here.

silvadel>> more or less no spam dont install. i have the same truoble with my computer and the spam. oh well itl get better one day. maby...

v>> mmmm so cute

bud-clare>> mmmm ive got no idea where i am right now

well thats all i want to post to now
later yall...
Brutis - [creature_of_the_night_20042004@yahoo.com]
hammond, louisiana, usa
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 03:02:58 PM
IP: 65.0.123.58

Z: <Fair enough, but sooner or later you'll want to learn to cop out of such duties.>
Ah, but she will never allow me to... unless I always make really bad decisions.
But I like having a choice. That way, I at least know what's going on.

Silvadel: <Still looking for a way to stop from being spammed with INSTALL SHOCKWAVE Y/N all the time when I browse on my portable>
Not going to happen. Unless you disable ALL plugins and third-party extensions.

Gside: <Classical, non vocal, and light strings? What else would you use but Cannon?>
Well, yeah. The processional and recessional are easy to pick. It's the background songs at the reception, the father/daughter dance, mother/son dance, and couple first dance that are difficult to pick out. (Those ones don't need to be classical, etc.)
<As long as you can still have the Electric Slide, it's fine>
And no chicken dance. I swear, if we did end up hiring a DJ, I would make DAMN sure that song is an absolute DO NOT PLAY song.
<The low yeilds won't do much for you unless you use them near half the time.>
Yeah, you're right. SO, if I am going to use them, might as well pull out the 100MT weapons. Ah... there's no kill like overkill
<You'll find out when you want to commiserate about the rigors of married life.>
Yeah, but since I don't have many (or really any) local married male friends, that's a bit unlikely.
<How do you get rust out of fertilizer?>
I think the rust is fertilizer for plants that require iron rich soil
<At least it's better than the yearly lab equipment check>
Boring?
<Porn? Too bad two such great joys don't meld well>
Hmm... well... as long as you don't watch it too much and simply use the profits from it to pay for your house...

Hmm... well, I do cook... I can't clean... I pay the bills... I've birthed a few million eggs so far...
Looks like I am half way there
<Unless there's anything on the immediate horizon, she'll probably get used to the name change enough to think of it as her name when anything big happens>
Nothing immediate. Oh yeah, we found out that in the state of Michigan, it costs $150 to change your name, even if you are getting married.

But do I still get to kill them afterwards? Well, I guess that letting them live with the horrors that they have done can be a fate worse than death...
<Hey, just like my tie dyed bandana. So any chance I could be a bridesmaid?>
Well, I do need a few groomsmen. My side is a bit empty (or totally empty)

OH! I DO! I DO!

V: <On a less grouchy note, here is sommat heartwarming. Has this been posted in here before?>
Ok, that was cute. Too cute.

Bud-Clare: <It's Towel Day again. *sighs*>
It's Towlie day? Wanna get high?

Dezi: <Really violent and bloody, and yet still a kids show in Japan>
From the country that Hentai is what kids watch after school, I am not surprised.
...
Is it just me, or did that just sound Yodaish?
Fire Storm
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 12:54:06 PM
IP: 65.114.91.3

Hey DPH! the anonymus YUGIOH posting was me.. I just forgot to put my name on it

twentysomethingth
Damien
Wednesday, May 26, 2004 01:26:16 AM
IP: 207.6.144.51

Gunjack> <<Aren't we all?>>: It used to be enforced, not so much anymore.
<<the series authors are preparing to flee the federal government>>: But you're sticking with the state and municipal governments?
<<Well, now you have a two-post string. Go for three?>>: That'd be nice, but I've lost my faith in you.
<<These days, though, Damning the Man takes up most of my time>>: Eh, become lazy. It's a lot less stressful.
<<Should be easy to find out>>: I don't know what purity tests could be run.
<<But you can forge the iron>>: Assuming it's not too contaminated with whatever you were reacting over.
<<Sleeping octopi are cool, though>>: Depends on what position they are in.
<<Sledge. Or, better yet, 18-pound maul>>: But do you have a good mallet space in which to store it?
<<Every which way>>: But loose?
<<Has this been posted in here before?>>: I think Lain showed it to me. I believe I responded with Pucca. http://puccaclub.com/eng/

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:41:44 PM
IP: 69.141.212.54

Hey, to the Fish that hides like an eel in a choral reef (whatever) I need to speak with you and get a critique on stuff. I'll be around usually after 8 pm ct. time. Thanks!

Oh yeah, and Anime Central in Chicago was great! One of the skits for the Mascarade (sp) was stage ninjas (I just love that term) leading out five dudes wrapped in black garbage bags. Then the announcer says "What really happened after the creation of the Evangelion" (or something like that, Sean got it, but I've never seen Evangelion). Then the ninjas ripped away the plastic and revealed.......

Five giant dancing boxes of POCKY!!!! They had arm holes and big sticks of pocky and danced around and had no eye holes out the front, only on the sides, so it was hilarious! Pocky Pocky Pocky!
And I got a Scott McNeil, voice of Wolverine, Xmen Evolution, and Kouga, Inu Yasha, signed a Inu. poster for me! And me and Sean got our pic taken with him. He is one cooool dude. He even did this little skit thing doing like five characters from Beast Wars. You'd think the dude is a bit schizophrenic or something, but it was awesome! And, he gave us Pocky!

We also sat in on a discussion about the Power Rangers and how it was before it got Americanized. It was a pretty cool show. Really violent and bloody, and yet still a kids show in Japan. The plots were a whole lot better too. All indepth and like a soap opera with continuity. I'd watch Power Rangers proudly if they had kept it like that. It was cool!

In other news, I am now officially a photog intern at the local CBS affiliate, WISH-TV. So far I've carried a tripod to the ends of the earth, shot some stuff, edited some stuff, and learned how to set up the live satellite trucks. And that was just in three days!. I also got to meet Rupert from Survivor. Creepy-ass dude, btw. Friendly, but I so would not want to run into that face in a dark alley. I also spent all Sunday at the Indy 500 Speedway track. We were reporting on the qualification runs, and a racer named Tony Stewart played us all by making pretend that he was gonna try to qualify for the first time in years. So we all looked dumb. Well, me, I'm just the intern. But see, I know crap about racing, and find it incredibly boring, pointless, and smelly (ugh, car exhaust) not to mention loud. So I spent the day having no clue what was going on. And I was hungry with no money. I wanted a big pretzel. Heck I was so hungry I began to remember the taste of Puerto Rican Mofongo, and I've only at that once!

Ok and last bit: My idiot bro is getting sent to Iraq in August. Yes, my dad just came back from there in March. But Retard-Boy joined the AF during the middle of a WAR so I have no clue why my family is surprised. Yeah. But this is also the same brother that swore up and down that J. Edgar Hoover was the best damn president that we ever had and he would be proud to take a bullet for him......Nuf said.

So that's me lately.
Do need to talk with the Fishies tho.
Dezi
Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:52:37 AM
IP: 68.58.158.101

[Currently, the series authors are preparing to flee the federal government, so that complicates things somewhat.]

*raises both eyebrows at that*

It's starting to look like, in the case of "Bad Guys", life is imitating art....
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, May 25, 2004 08:01:34 AM
IP: 4.244.12.9

It's Towel Day again. *sighs*

I'm tempted, but I'm going to a mall, and I don't want anyone to think I stole it...
Bud-Clare
Tuesday, May 25, 2004 04:13:16 AM
IP: 66.67.201.63

hey yall...

what does it mean to you when you hear this phrase...
"Be courtious and stedy to the laws that you and i cannot control"
i want your honest opions on what this means to yall k

ok ill have to wait for other things to be posted i cant rember what happened last week and i dont feel like checking. being on the comp at midnight will do that...

later yall
Brutis - [creature_of_the_night_20042004@yahoo.com]
hammond, louisiana, usa
Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:36:48 AM
IP: 65.0.109.36

On a less grouchy note, here is sommat heartwarming. Has this been posted in here before?

V - [< bunny kitten love!]
Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:15:24 AM
IP: 4.7.36.9

Aria (the insane) - Aren't we all?
<<So how is the Bad Guys series coming? Just wondering, been awhile since I've heard anything about it.>>
It's comming, slowly but surely. Currently, the series authors are preparing to flee the federal government, so that complicates things somewhat. But yeah, it's comming.

Gside><<Too long.>> Well, now you have a two-post string. Go for three? These days, though, Damning the Man takes up most of my time.
<<Is it really aluminum?>> I think so. Should be easy to find out.
<<Maybe, depending on what shape it winds up in. Otherwise, I'd rank the fun of destruction higher.>> But you can forge the iron. I dunno, making my own ingot seems like fun.
<<Bored housewife had just come through?>> Possibly. Sleeping octopi are cool, though.
<<And simple to boot. Which do you prefer, ballpeen or rubber mallet?>> Sledge. Or, better yet, 18-pound maul.
<<You'd tumble for me?>> Every which way.

Lain and my sister are watching Fox News in the background, and some Talking Head just mentioned his disappointment that Bush didn't say something like "every al-qeada operative we kill in Iraq is one less to attack you in your home" in his last speech.
Comedy is dead.
Gunjack "Ye Royal Majestie's Trachea Stomp" Valentine
Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:09:52 AM
IP: 4.7.36.9

Fire Storm> <<something classical and non-vocal for the processional and recessional, with light strings during the reception>>: Classical, non vocal, and light strings? What else would you use but Cannon? Though I'm sure Tchaikovsky's Romeo and Juliet would be appropriate, and you should be able to get violin sonatas at bulk rate.
<<the Lady said no to anything "Trance." Go fig>>: As long as you can still have the Electric Slide, it's fine.
<>: The low yeilds won't do much for you unless you use them near half the time.
<<What do I care what the others think?>>: You'll find out when you want to commiserate about the rigors of married life.
<>: How do you get rust out of fertilizer?
<<But it SOUNDS so frigging cool>>: At least it's better than the yearly lab equipment check.
<<Parental abuse. Is there a greater joy in life?>>: Porn? Too bad two such great joys don't meld well.
<>: I guess that means it's a good time to become a feminist and insist on a reversal of traditional gender roles.
<>: Unless there's anything on the immediate horizon, she'll probably get used to the name change enough to think of it as her name when anything big happens.
<>: I gtuess that means it's time to get random people very drunk and see what you can convince them to do.
<<WAY past that>>: Just making sure.
<<Lilac purple>>: Hey, just like my tie dyed bandana. So any chance I could be a bridesmaid?

Z> <<I'm not much of a reader, but even I loved the play>>: That's just because it's one of the few serious modern plays with the undead. And playing at questions isn't so bad either.

Silvadel> <<it is my experience that the only thing it is used for is intrusive ads in general>>: And the occaisonal game. You could always go for lynx, no plug ins whatsoever. No graphics either.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, May 24, 2004 11:42:36 PM
IP: 69.141.212.54

Thirteenth. Hope that's not bad luck, since I need it this week...
Ed
Monday, May 24, 2004 03:35:04 PM
IP: 131.111.8.103

Still looking for a way to stop from being spammed with INSTALL SHOCKWAVE Y/N all the time when I browse on my portable -- I really do *NOT* want to install shockwave on that machine -- it is my experience that the only thing it is used for is intrusive ads in general...
silvadel
Monday, May 24, 2004 02:54:14 PM
IP: 24.225.221.135

Feh. I missed the top ten! :P
Leo
Monday, May 24, 2004 01:57:42 PM
IP: 68.231.241.236

10th in the name of finishing what is sta...oh screw it!

FS - <She wanted me to be involved, and I wanted to be involved too>

Fair enough, but sooner or later you'll want to learn to cop out of such duties. What was it that Bill Cosby said with regards to avoiding household chores? Something like "Only men of such genius could feign such great stupidity." Something like that...oh, and watch out for those brain damaged children! :)

GSide - <It wouldn't be truly random without temporary patterns.>

Well put.

<Read the play, saw the movie, collected proof about Rosenkrantz at least. I assume you're talking about the stopping of probability in the begining.>

Yes. I'm not much of a reader, but even I loved the play. It's one of my favorites.

Peace
Z
Monday, May 24, 2004 12:39:50 PM
IP: 67.66.158.144

9th!
I've finally done it. At least once.
It's always good to start your day with a good cup of coffee.
Bye.
Martin M
Fulda, Hessen, Germany
Monday, May 24, 2004 09:21:15 AM
IP: 217.226.168.188

Eigth in the name of sleepy Dezi...........
Dezi
Monday, May 24, 2004 08:54:24 AM
IP: 68.58.158.101

7th! in the name of Morgan le Fay!
Krista
Monday, May 24, 2004 08:45:34 AM
IP: 68.116.254.201

T3h 6th!!!
Fire Storm and Lady Mystic
Monday, May 24, 2004 08:16:23 AM
IP: 68.252.2.89

5th!
"The Gathering. It's like Ask Greg without the two year wait"
www.gatheringofthegargoyles.com
kathy
Monday, May 24, 2004 08:02:23 AM
IP: 66.82.192.1

Fourth and bored.
Bud-Clare
Monday, May 24, 2004 07:58:39 AM
IP: 66.67.201.63

Third's the word....
Spike
Monday, May 24, 2004 07:41:57 AM
IP: 209.30.25.60

Second in the name of the Fay *^_^*
Mooncat
Monday, May 24, 2004 07:26:33 AM
IP: 68.102.17.133

The page has been cleared? In that case....

First!
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Monday, May 24, 2004 07:20:49 AM
IP: 4.244.12.161