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Harvester > I've had the Genesis Archive Volume 1 for a couple of years, and I just picked up Volume 2. I've always liked both of the band's periods, and Volume 2 was worth it just to hear some songs that never made it onto the albums. One thing worth taking into account with a band like Genesis, or an artist like Elton John... when you've got a career that spans decades, you have to expect that the music will grow and change along with the artist. Elton, happily, is still around. The members of Genesis all have solo careers, but from what I hear there's very little chance that they'll ever get back together.

221 days left until The Gathering 2005 in Las Vegas, Nevada.
5 days left until Christmas.
Patrick
Monday, December 20, 2004 06:51:05 AM
IP: 68.170.199.45

I've been doing those kind of problems in my head for years... since I was a kid... If you break it down into a single digit by repetative addition, it still works
219=12=3
218=11=2
217=10=1
Damien
Monday, December 20, 2004 02:07:46 AM
IP: 205.250.244.212

Leo: Well, that was a dumb-f*ck newbie mistake. My apologies.
Harvester of Eyes
Fredericksburg, VA, USA
Monday, December 20, 2004 01:01:37 AM
IP: 69.175.64.201

HOE: <<At least, until December 25th.>> The pattern will break down after the 21st (220 and 4). After that you get 219 and 3.....

Leo
Monday, December 20, 2004 12:41:16 AM
IP: 68.231.241.236

Didn't quite hit the swing eighths, but at least I didn't mess up my Fiddler on the Roof solos.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:57:21 PM
IP: 68.83.187.89

Patrick: What's even freakier is that if you add the digits in 222, you get 6. I guess this means that the countdown for the Gathering and the countdown for Christmas are in sync. At least, until December 25th. Tomorrow it will be 221 and 5, respectively.

By the way, I've noticed that the stores seem to be carrying a Genesis compilation album right now. But it's everything from "Abacab" onwards. Basically, the period in which they became increasingly less progressive; though I did enjoy "Invisible Touch." They actually made 80s synth-pop sound intelligent, and I normally don't like 80s synth-pop. I might have the buy the "Genesis Archives: 1967-1975."
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@aol.com]
Fredericksburg, VA, USA
Sunday, December 19, 2004 09:49:49 PM
IP: 69.175.64.201

My Gargoyles DVD order from Amazon was bundled with items not ready for release until January, so I was in for a bit of a wait. I did go to the stores last week, and found ---

Disney store didn't have, never heard of it, utter blank looks on the faces of the store staff.

Borders had one copy, in the kids books section. I took it and put it on the "new DVDs" shelf face out *^_^* -- I'm going to keep checking to see if it sells. If it does I'll ask the store to reorder it. Poke your books stores! They take requests and you aren't obligated to buy it yourself.

Best Buy hadn't even gotten it on the shelves yet, but they did have four copies listed in their invoice, I'll go back later to see if they've been unboxed (it's crazy because of Christmas time so I don't blame the muchly overworked store personel) and I'll do my bit to put it on the "new" section there too.

I was shopping at Wallmart late late at night, and lo... they had a LOT of Garg DVDs at the NEW area face out. To reward them for being the best place so far at showing off the DVD, I bought a copy. It was $18.99 >^@@^< ... cheaper than Amazon!!!

Went home and watched the mini doc.... *love, love, love*

Am plugging the dvds on mailing lists I'm on for paranormal fantasy. whee!!!

So far, Gargoyles is what I throw on the dvd player and run while working on my Christmas artwork. Yesssss... it's good. It's very good. And the discussion of Paur, Weisman and Keith is very cool. Wow, they were seriously crushing on Elisa's voice actress =) You could just hear the happy hormones in their voices when they talked about her.

Off to get ready for a LotR party. laters!
Mooncat


MooncatX
Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:50:10 PM
IP: 68.102.17.133

Isn't three of a kind a winning spin on the slot machine? If so, we've got a winner today. ;)

222 days left until The Gathering 2005 in Las Vegas, Nevada.
6 days left until Christmas.
Patrick
Sunday, December 19, 2004 10:22:41 AM
IP: 68.170.199.45

Concert tomorrow, andI still need some more practive on those Sing Sing Sing swing eighths.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Sunday, December 19, 2004 02:55:49 AM
IP: 68.83.187.89

Jan > At first it's kind of a pain and then it just works into your yearly/daily routine. The first year is the trickiest when you have to estimate the amount of wood you need to get through the year. Last year (first with a stove) I bought two ricks (one cord) at a time. We used three cords. This year with the trees coming down I split four cords and I have probably another cords worth of rounds that were too green to split by hand when I was building our stack. I'll get to them next month. I'll probably also do some thinning on the hillside while the leaves are down and you can actually see back there because I want a walking trail. But mostly wood harvesting will start in June. For the daily part - at four when I start my afternoon round of chores I make sure the wood rack on the porch and by the firebox are both full. Usually that means splitting some of the hardwood into smaller pieces - good exercise. As for the golden years thing? My 80 year old neighbors across the way still burn a stove. Of course you could always look into the ones that take pellets or shell corn if you're worried you won't be able to handle a splitting maul or won't be able to hire someone to do it for you. (most of the time when you buy wood it's split to stove size so you don't have to fool with it, unless you want kindling.)

With propane we've found it's best to go with the biggest tank you can fit that way you can take advantage of off season prices breaks (never buy anything for heating in December!). We have a two hundred and fifty gallon tank which is huge considering we only use it to heat water and cook off of. But we're planning future expansion and one of these days I will have a spa sized tub. Anyway, when last I topped the tank it was two bucks a gallon and I had a coupon for 20bucks off so it didn't come to much. I think the best approach to reasonable energy costs is not to put all of your eggs in one basket. I'll never go back to all electric.
kathy
Saturday, December 18, 2004 09:06:02 AM
IP: 66.82.9.29

Wood is a renewable energy resource, but only as long as not many people are using it. If half the population of the U.S. wanted to switch over to woodburning stoves, the trees simply wouldn't last. It takes a lot longer to grow 'em than to burn 'em, and there's the lumber industry to compete with, too. So heating with wood really only makes sense if there's a ready local supply compared to other options. In an urban ara, for example, firewood is a lot harder to come by.

So I suppose I should start posting the countdown over here, too...

223 days left until The Gathering 2005 in Las Vegas, Nevada.
7 days left until Christmas.
Patrick
Saturday, December 18, 2004 08:45:06 AM
IP: 68.170.199.45

DPH> thank you... I rarely have time anymore to drop in or read too much of the posts, though.

Kathy> interesting about the wood stove for heat. We will build a new house next year & my husband mentioned the wood heat option. Isn't it a pain in the butt to make sure you have enough wood? I'm concerned about when we get in our "golden years" of dragging wood in and/or making sure we have ample supply for the winter months here. It would be a good back-up system, though. *nods*
I've been hearing people around here complain about the price of propane, so I'm not even going to consider that option. Someone said it was around $1.85 per whatever form of measurement they use. ??
I hate cooking on a gas stove - I'm too scared of it. I have always had an electric stove and am too old to change now ;)

I had my first real altercation with an inmate today. He attempted to rush me, but I pulled out the mace and got him dead-eye. When he started to bend over while grabbing his eyes, I hit his forehead with the palm of my hand to throw him backwards. It worked because he lost his footing, stumbled backwards, hit the wall and fell to his butt. By the time he hit the floor, the other Correctional Officers (including my husband) was on the scene and cuffed him for me. The inmate was very foolish and will now suffer the consequences for his actions.
BTW, mace really stings the eyes! geesh... just the fumes from it was torture on me. O_o

My son, Michael is home until the 26th :) I've missed him terribly.

time to run... we're hosting a Christmas party for the Jailers and their wives tomorrow night and I have lots of snacks to prepare ahead of time.
Jan
Friday, December 17, 2004 10:17:36 PM
IP: 12.215.182.17

Please feel free to copy and paste this to other websites, Live Journals, where ever.

After ten long years, Disney has released Gargoyles Season 1 to DVD. They've done a good job with it. The packaging and presentation live up to the product.

So, let's tell Disney how we feel about it!

Take ten minutes and write them a nice thank you letter. Even a postcard will do. Keep it short and sweet - this isn't the place to take them to task for sending you on a retail scavenger hunt to find the disc. Most importantly, tell them how much you look forward to the release of SEASON TWO.

Here is the address:

Buena Vista Home Entertainment
Department CS
Burbank, CA 91521
(This is the address off the disc.)

Thank you.

kathy - [staff@gargoyles-fans.org]
Friday, December 17, 2004 10:43:31 AM
IP: 66.82.9.18

DPH> Shelving fees. I think you got that mixed around. Grocery stores charge shelving fees over 'where' to be placed not to be placed at all. At your local grocer, the shelf space between eye level and lower reach of your arm is the most sellable. For example, you have an aisle of cereal. Shoppers are more likely to pick up the Frosted Flakes at eye level and reach up for the Frosted Flakes on the top shelf or crouch down for the Flakes on the bottom shelf.

I don't know, but I wouldn't think media stores would charge shelving fees for DVDs. I believe the majority of DVD buyers go for a selected item. Unlike cereal buyers who might make they choice on the spot, DVD buyers go looking for a specific title. That makes placement less relevant that selection.

I'm not one of those who thinks Disney is looking to fail Gargoyles. I think the company has a franchise mentality that is a shortsighted at time. Keep in mind that Disney has a lackluster response to most of its television animation. Of all the shows Disney's produced since the late 80's, Gargoyles and Kim Possible are the only ones to receive DVD treatment. I think in the company's frame of mind. Movies are at the headwaters of the revenue stream. From there you can sell merchandise, video games, and parades. Eventually the stream flows down to Video/DVD sales and spin-off TV shows like Aladdin, the Little Mermaid, Timon & Pumba, etc. To Disney's POV, there is money to be made in TV shows, but not as much as the movie properties. So it isn't about dragging its feet, its about a low expectation on a very crowded slate of Christmas releases.
Taleweaver
Friday, December 17, 2004 08:17:59 AM
IP: 209.179.168.56

DPH> <<electricity is used to distribute it>>: What else would you use to power vent fans?
<<Wouldn't the tree huggers want to stop me from chopping down more trees in the name of the environment?>>: They wouldnt' like that, but how does it do for spewing noxious fumes (coal and oil), contaminating groundwater (nukes and oil), and not going away for millions of years (nukes)?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:49:28 PM
IP: 68.83.187.89

<< I'll stick to propane for heating water - thankyouverymuch. (Insert your own Hank Hill joke here - I know I do everytime I look at the tank in the yard). >>

I'll second propane for cooking, too. The propane grill I bought two years ago has already more than paid for itself in money saved on charcoal, and everything sure tastes a heck of a lot better, too. "Taste the meat, not the heat!" as Hank says.

We don't use propane for indoors where I live since there's natural gas available, but I'd still rather have a gas fired stove in the house than an electric, as well. Flame burners allow much better temperature control, and as long as you have matches around you still can have warm food during a the occassional power outage.
Patrick
Thursday, December 16, 2004 09:50:32 AM
IP: 66.93.14.153

We heat using wood. We have a "parlor stove" little bitty firebox and it heats our two thousand squarefoot house nicely - as long as you remember to feed it from time to time. It's great for burning selected items - like all that mail that is supposed to be shredded before disposal to prevent identity theft.

The new stoves are very efficient - they have catalytic converters to reburn gasses and everything - a lot different from the first woodburner we had that was the size of a oil drum and barely keep the water from freezing in a glass on an upstairs bedside.

Wood is a renewable resource. If you have your own stand you can keep it going through selective harvesting, copicing etc. indefinately.

Coal plants are radioactive in their own way (fossil fuel goes tick) but we have areas of the country where you can trip and fall over the coal deposits so its available and they're retrofitting existing plants like mad to make them cleaner.

Solar power is good as a back up - we're considering adding a few solar panels here to shave a few more bucks off the electric bill. Supposedly, they're more efficient than the days when you stored juice in car batteries. (But if I never take another solar heated shower it'll be too soon. Brrr.) I'll stick to propane for heating water - thankyouverymuch. (Insert your own Hank Hill joke here - I know I do everytime I look at the tank in the yard).

Oh! And if you liked hearing Keith sing at the Gathering - he's on the Jelly's Last Jam Broadway recording now available through his credits at the G2005 website. ::Click:: Don't forget - anything you purchase at Amazon - as long as you click through us first - helps fund the Gathering!

Also - preregistration prices change in just a couple of weeks. December 31st. So sign up and bring a friend!




kathy
Thursday, December 16, 2004 09:24:34 AM
IP: 66.82.9.45

This year I don't have to wait for the holiday blues, they've already arrived. Now only if a certain check would arrive at a certain place and certain toy would be sent to my house, . . maybe it might arrive before Christmas.

Gside - <Is wood used as a central heating solution? I thought it had been relegated to space heating. > Wood provides the heat, and electricity is used to distribute it. <I'd think the tree huggers would say one of coal, oil, or nukes as the worst.> Wouldn't the tree huggers want to stop me from chopping down more trees in the name of the environment?

Jacob - <I'm getting a sneeking feeling that maybe Disney doesn't actually WANT the DVD to do very well.... :P? > Let's see. No advertising budget, no strategically placed ads in stores announcing the release. Basically, how well this DVD sinks or swims depends ENTIRELY on the fans. But I would think Disney would have the decency to air a few ads about the DVD release on Toon Disney while Gargoyles was playing. That's perfect marketing right there: You have the ideal people to sell the product (the dvd of the series) watching the series. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that even a few ads shown in that time slot would make a big difference in sales.

I'm honestly afraid of those gargoyles dvds becoming shelf warmers until a store decides to clearance sell them.

Wait a minute: I've got a incredibly stupid question. I remember a few years ago hearing about how grocery stores charged 'shelving fees' to put items on the shelf. Does that mean that to sell a dvd in a store, the company has to pay shelving fees?
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, December 16, 2004 08:07:26 AM
IP: 67.14.195.34

The Disney Store, for the most part, seems to be averse to carrying any mechandise that isn't colored predominantly in pastels or designed to appeal to the under 12 age bracket. You would think they could've moved aside just a little bit of the "Princess Ball" stuff to make room for a "Gargoyles" item or two during the past 10 years, but common business sense -- as in, sell the items your costumers are asking for -- doesn't seem to be the model for Disney's retail division.

There are 225 days left until The Gathering 2005 in Las Vegas, Nevada.
There are 9 days left until Christmas.

Both numbers, coincidentally, are perfect squares.

"It's hip to be square." - Huey Lewis
Patrick
Thursday, December 16, 2004 08:03:35 AM
IP: 66.93.14.153

Today was LONG. Much walking, much carrying of heavy things, such as food and major pieces of furniture. We now have a fishtank; Were I rendered liquid, perhaps by a horrible accident involving a sentient cuisinart, I am confident that this tank could serve honorably as a final, leak-proof repository for my soupy mass. Until then, it will have to be content holding fish, of which we have acquired two. We also have a desk, which does a smashing job of supporting our apparently non-functional scanner.

Grr.

How many days left till Christmas?
Gunjack "The Big CIA" Valentine
Thursday, December 16, 2004 02:04:00 AM
IP: 205.250.217.92

DPH> <<I say using wood heat is the most environmentally **unfriendly** way>>: I'd think the tree huggers would say one of coal, oil, or nukes as the worst.
<<my wood-burning stove won't work too well because it uses electricity to help distribute the heat>>: Is wood used as a central heating solution? I thought it had been relegated to space heating.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:46:43 PM
IP: 68.83.187.89

Jacob > That's old news. Disney store employees even did that while they had Gargoyles merchandise in their stores. It is irritating that they didn't get behind the release enough to stock it in their own company store (yeah, yeah, different division. Big Deal.)

In the mean time, show your support for the DVD. Post a review or even just your thoughts over at Ask Greg. And buy an extra copy to donate to a local kids shelter or library through the Gathering of the Gargoyles link to Amazon.com
kathy
Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:08:58 PM
IP: 66.82.9.56

More bad Gargoyles DVD news:

Today, we went to the Disney Store in our local mall and asked, "so, do you guys have the Gargoyles DVD?"

(Now, please keep in mind that this mall is actually 2 or 3 malls which have grown together into a gargantuan mass of over 400 stores and is thus a rather substantial edifice in the Greater Surrounding Area.. not some backwater rinky-dink mall with 3 stores and a car wash..)

The Sales Associate looked at me with a very innocent face and said, "no, we don't... was that a Disney show?"

*facepalm*

I'm getting a sneeking feeling that maybe Disney doesn't actually WANT the DVD to do very well.... :P
Jacob
Wednesday, December 15, 2004 09:35:43 PM
IP: 205.250.217.92

Harvester > Rael is a reference to the lead character in the double-length album "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" by Genesis. All of the old Genesis stuff has recently been remastered and released on CD... a good thing, too, since my cassette tapes have all begun to die.

DPH > Your most environmentally friendly option is probably solar. With a combined electric / hydronic system, solar panels would be used to both generate electricity to run a pump and to heat water that would be circulated through an underfloor radiant heat system.
Patrick
Wednesday, December 15, 2004 06:48:30 AM
IP: 68.170.199.45

It's puzzle-time. Yea, I'm looking at some online jigsaw puzzle programs so I can print out my own. :-)

Ok, here's a tough call for all you environmentally savy folks: what's the most and worst environmentally friendly way to heat a house? I say using wood heat is the most environmentally **unfriendly** way, but this is just intution. Suppose I lose power. Well, my wood-burning stove won't work too well because it uses electricity to help distribute the heat.

Jan - good to see you.

Now only if Daniel Johnson would show his face.

Bad news: I went to one of the two walmarts in my city and in the video department . . no signs of the Gargoyle DVD. Wah, Wah. Gotta check out the walmart that I normally visit.

Ok, it's been a week now. How soon before we find out if the sales were . . . good enough?

Lynati - <Of which there are at least two of us left.> Really? Great, that's the last time I rely on intelligence estimates from my hologram.

I've contacted a couple of professionals about giving him a major upgrade, but . . I'm waiting on a response.
DPH
AR, USA
Wednesday, December 15, 2004 05:32:02 AM
IP: 67.14.195.32

Patrick: Well, I'm still a newcomer to Gabriel's work. I've attempted to download "The Battle of Epping Forest" off Kazaa with little luck. So I've decided to just order the album. I'm more familiar with Gabriel's first three solo albums. Is Rael a solo or a Genesis reference?

Gside: Well, "Solsbury Hill" is off of Gabriel's first solo album. An album which also contained the delightfully disjointed song "Moribund the Burgermeister." That song's really gotten under my skin lately. If you have filesharing software of some kind, I recommend searching for that one. I also recommend "Intruder," "No Self-Control," "Waiting for the Big One," and "Down the Dulce Vita." Then, of course, there's the video for "Sledgehammer." Few people realize just what an enigma Peter Gabriel is. On the one hand, you have the album "So." And on the other, you've got this delightfully twisted experimental half.
Harvester of Eyes
Fredericksburg, VA, USA
Wednesday, December 15, 2004 01:24:48 AM
IP: 69.175.64.201

Lynati> <<My staff is over six feet long and made for beating people>>: But one might say a staff has more finesse than a weapon used to apply straight beatings.

HoE> <<most people only know him for songs like "Red Rain" and "In Your Eyes.">>: How about Solsbury Hill?

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:07:25 AM
IP: 68.83.187.89

Harvester of Eyes > That Peter Gabriel / Genesis fan who slipped those references into Season One and Season Two would be me. You missed a big one, though... the halfling named Rael.
Patrick
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 11:59:41 PM
IP: 68.170.199.45

Greg X: So, which member of the TGS Staff is a fan of Peter Gabriel? I've spotted at least one episode named after a Gabriel song (from Season One of Timedancer), and then there were the references in Gargoyles Season Two: the song used in "Lethe" (from Gabriel's third self-titled album) and the reference to the song from the Genesis album "Selling England by the Pound," used in the episode "In the Blood." Personally, I think it's cool to find another Peter Gabriel fan, especially one that enjoys him on that level (most people only know him for songs like "Red Rain" and "In Your Eyes."). If it's not you, then is it Todd?
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@aol.com]
Fredericksburg, VA, USA
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 09:49:41 PM
IP: 69.175.64.201

HoE: yeah, you're right... I messed up on the song. However, I got the number right ;) I was running on a hair above being brain-dead at that point due to an excessively hectic and brutal day at work.
I have maxxed out on my patience with inmates and their conniving stupidity. I need a vacation.

I just finished watching the Bonus Feature of the Gargoyle DVD. Great job everyone! I think my husband even understands it all now. ;)
Jan
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 08:54:25 PM
IP: 12.215.182.17

Jan: I just realized something. I think your post should have said "Nine gargs dancing" (or nine gargoyles dancing, if you wanted to match syllables with the source material). There were ten lords a leaping and nine ladies dancing. Dammit. And to think I wasted spot number ten on a stupid reference to my domain name.
Harvester of Eyes
Tuesday, December 14, 2004 01:17:00 AM
IP: 69.175.64.201

HoE: [Mei Hsing was an interesting touch. I wonder if the staff will be devoting any episodes to her and her clan's history.] I'd say something catty like "you'll have to read to find out", but I'm too tired, so instead I will say, "Yes, we are. And chances are what you learn will make you sympathize with her clan's POV, provided we writers do our job well enough".

Gside: My staff is over six feet long and made for beating people. Staff form what always my favorite weapons form in kung fu; of course, I only knew the one weapons form for years, and I'm still not very proficient with da broadsword.
And there is a guy I know who'd argue with a mace, but then claim the mace started the whole thing and just wouldn't accept having its facts wrong.

Oh, and Eshun adds, "Mmmmmmm! Delicious, delicious awe..."
Lynati
Monday, December 13, 2004 11:32:57 PM
IP: 172.133.14.234

Lynati> <<See, Gunjack, I *told* you I wasn't posting about your wang>>: Yeah, who'd ever want to talk about his wang? Now mine is an endless fount of awe.
<<I was just looking for this staff in particular to beat fic into shape with, not the species>>: A staff isn't really the first considered implement when applying beatings. Perhaps a rod or cane, and who can argue with a mace.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside@comcast.net]
Fair Haven, NJ
Monday, December 13, 2004 11:16:40 PM
IP: 68.83.187.89

HoE> I'm really glad you liked "Contigencies", I wrote that story way back in 2001, and it's one of my favorites. Had fun writing it, and I think it turned out very well. I love Demona as everyone knows, and most of my stories involve her, and Thailog was both fun and frightingly easy to write.

Stick around, we're working on season four, and I'm comfortable saying that when we finally get it out, it's going to be a blast.

As for Demona, well, let's jjst say that things need to get worse before they can get better.
Greg Bishansky
Monday, December 13, 2004 09:54:42 PM
IP: 141.155.132.192

10 eyes have I harvested! I'm practically high on them now!

I finished reading Season 3 of Gargoyles in the TGS archives last night. I was wondering how the staff would keep things going after the death of the being who was the antagonist for most of Season 2. So Season 3 was interesting. I like how the relationship between the trio, which seemed to take a back seat after Season 1, came up again. It should be interesting to see how Brooklyn's knowledge of future events will come into play. That was another thing Season 3 focused on, as well. He seems to be trying to help Demona avoid the fate that we saw her suffer in the Timedancer episode "Requiem."

Speaking of Demona, "Contingencies" was probably one of my favorite episodes from the season. While I was glad to see Thailog back again, his physical ailments never sat right with me, basically because I like to go with what Greg said on his website, which is that the sun cures everything except fractures and amputations. Unless Thailog's wings were broken in the fall, and he has been unable to find a doctor he trusts enough to reset them (or he's turned to stone so many times now his wings are stuck like that forever). But I enjoy how the staff has remained true to Thailog's antisocial personality. The manner in which he seized control of Nightstone was pure Thailog! Messy and malicious, just what you'd expect from him. That scene at the end with Demona and Angela nearly made my eyes water. After everything that happened in Season 2 (the mother/daughter bond seeming to grow stronger; Demona befriending Andrea and even going so far as to avoid casting a spell to save her life; then of course, Demona saving the world by killing Madoc), it now seems that the good within her might be in danger of leaving her entirely. So it should be interesting to see where that goes.

Mei Hsing was an interesting touch. I wonder if the staff will be devoting any episodes to her and her clan's history. It might make one more sympathetic towards her, but for now, she's like a more articulate, political version of Demona. Although my attitudes towards Demona changed after seeing "Vows" and "City of Stone." If we got to know Mei Hsing a little better, we might feel sorry for her as well.

Anyway, I think Season 4 should be interesting. But for now, I've still got plenty in the archives to tide me over (I haven't even started Pendragon). Keep up the excellent work, everyone!
Harvester of Eyes
Fredericksburg, VA, USA
Monday, December 13, 2004 07:55:30 PM
IP: 69.175.64.201

9 Gargs a'leapin
Jan
Monday, December 13, 2004 05:37:14 PM
IP: 12.215.182.17

OCHO!

Dezi
Monday, December 13, 2004 05:24:03 PM
IP: 68.57.196.146

Seventh in the name of my insanity
Damien
Monday, December 13, 2004 05:02:10 PM
IP: 205.250.244.212

Sixth!
Leo
Monday, December 13, 2004 03:06:08 PM
IP: 68.231.241.236

Cinco!
kathy
Monday, December 13, 2004 01:58:44 PM
IP: 66.82.9.43

(4)FOUR!
Vinnie - [tpeano29@hotmail.com]
Marquette, Michigan, USA
Monday, December 13, 2004 01:43:26 PM
IP: 64.112.203.98

THREE Musketeers! All for one, and one for all!
Patrick
Monday, December 13, 2004 12:23:06 PM
IP: 66.93.14.153

Number TWWWOOOOOOO!!!

Keel YOO, Keel yoo ALL! Cha cha cha!
Gunjack "Senor Grumpypants" Valentine
Monday, December 13, 2004 12:11:18 PM
IP: 205.250.217.92

*pokes the Staff o' Edits lightly into DPH's belly*

I was just looking for this staff in particular to beat fic into shape with, not the species. Of which there are at least two of us left. *heads back to work*

woohoo! a new tgs fan...now *there* is a dying breed...
Lynati
Monday, December 13, 2004 11:57:56 AM
IP: 172.144.53.232