Happy new year!

...and you don't really drop your feet off...ee freaky thought...

last egg to hatch, maybe? doesn't seem a common enough occurence, and you need something in pairs or similar in order to get a similar metaphor. A lot of people, cultures, believe that bad news comes in threes, too. The phrase has darker connotations, since it is usually related to learning the downside of something that appears good on the surface. ...Maybe something that ties in more with nature?
Overall, that's a fun question to ponder.
Lynati
posted @ Mon, Jan 1, 2007 1:21:26 am EST from 71.163.27.144

Happy New Year!

Spike: Maybe just the other foot instead of shoe, since they don't wear shoes. Like waiting for the other foot to drop. I could see more "modern" gargoyles saying something like that. Maybe the old timers, Hudson's rookery would have some medieval phrase, but I'm not feeling too creative right now. :)
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Mon, Jan 1, 2007 12:10:32 am EST from 68.58.107.111

Greetings;

Happy new years from the great white north. All the best to everyone.

To the writers: Thanks for the stories this year. I hope for more in the future.
Yggdrasil - [eng050599 at hotmail dot com]
posted @ Mon, Jan 1, 2007 12:03:33 am EST from 72.140.112.154

Happy New Year.

My last post hasn't been wiped yet?
And no one's used the word "alongside" (the only common word containing "gside" I've noticed) since then?

Best wishes to all, I'll still pop in occaisonally, but I just haven't been in a posting mood lately.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside at comcast dot net]
posted @ Mon, Jan 1, 2007 12:00:04 am EST from 69.141.213.120

what you mean Spike?
Kaelyan Arkaemis - [Arkaemis at yahoo dot com]
Dude! I saw this in a movie once! they didn't make it!
posted @ Sun, Dec 31, 2006 10:03:10 pm EST from 70.174.186.101

Just out of curiosity, what do you suppose would be the gargoyle alternative to 'waiting for the other shoe to drop?'
Spike
posted @ Sun, Dec 31, 2006 5:07:31 pm EST from 70.251.88.216

Indeed. It is quite amusing how much people in Virginia overreact to snow. If it even smells like it's going to snow, you can count on them closing the schools.

Strange as this may sound, I lived in New England for over 20 years. The air takes on a certain scent when it looks like it's going to snow.
Harvester of Eyes
"God does not interfere in the affairs of man, they say. It's because he's not interested. He's done this planet. He's moved on. Perhaps one day he will pu the entire kit back in its box, but probably not. You know kids, do they EVER put anything back in its box?" -Robert Rankin ("The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of the Apocalypse")
posted @ Sun, Dec 31, 2006 12:22:32 pm EST from 71.74.28.233

16.5" of snow? man they wouldn't close the door for that where i'm from however I'd love to see that up here in virginia. Everyone runs around like crazy people when it snows here, I love it. anways Happy new year all also
Kaelyan Arkaemis - [Arkaemis at yahoo dot com]
Dude! I saw this in a movie once! they didn't make it!
posted @ Sun, Dec 31, 2006 10:49:17 am EST from 70.174.186.101

Well, Albuquerque is now digging out of a 16.5" snow fall. Can we say "Snow Day"? As I told my mom, the good news is JoAnns is closed, the bad news is JoAnns is closed.

My neighbors shoveled the little bit of my walk clear, bless them, I have no shove, and went to the back of the apartments and made an igloo. They finished it with a tent for the roof

The night before I walked, rode and pushed my bike home. It was too deep to actually ride unless is was in the slush. We did break a record for most snow in a 24 hour period.


Wishing everyone a Happy New Year!!! as she sets the automated confetti machine to launch at midnight.
Starsinger
posted @ Sun, Dec 31, 2006 9:45:07 am EST from 65.54.97.188

Oooo, it's been forever since i checked out this site, yo. Ahoyhoy.
Kaelyan Arkaemis - [Arkaemis at yahoo dot com]
Dude! I saw this in a movie once! they didn't make it!
posted @ Sun, Dec 31, 2006 12:51:43 am EST from 70.174.186.101

*pants the dead CR, then takes its finger and sticks it in its nostril*

Now if only I had a permanent marker...
Harvester of Eyes
"God does not interfere in the affairs of man, they say. It's because he's not interested. He's done this planet. He's moved on. Perhaps one day he will pu the entire kit back in its box, but probably not. You know kids, do they EVER put anything back in its box?" -Robert Rankin ("The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of the Apocalypse")
posted @ Sat, Dec 30, 2006 10:53:50 pm EST from 71.74.28.233

*pats Dezi*
Lynati
posted @ Fri, Dec 29, 2006 10:18:54 pm EST from 68.106.118.135

....I killed it....
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Fri, Dec 29, 2006 5:04:41 pm EST from 68.58.107.111

Oooo! Ooo! I can answer this one:

Spike: Look at the url. For each picture it's gonna be "wrong" like it will say art/art/... instead of just /art/. Delete whatever is the goofy part and it would come up. This was also the answer to the problem I kept having where I couldn't access any of the seasons. Crummy part is I can't figure out how to make them stay that way, so I don't have to "fix" them on my computer each time....anyone?
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Wed, Dec 27, 2006 8:46:50 pm EST from 68.58.107.111

Crossovers that should never be... Hmmm, that's a tough one although I'd have to say that I wouldnt want Goliath and company traveling to OZ. The inhabitants would probably mistake them for flying monkeys and don't get me started on what Demona would do to/with the Wicked Witch.
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Remember the old Gargoyles comics!
posted @ Wed, Dec 27, 2006 7:02:39 pm EST from 69.54.209.65

Out of curiosity, is there any way to view the picture archive? All the links there are giving me an error message.

Thanks!
Spike
posted @ Wed, Dec 27, 2006 4:30:07 pm EST from 70.251.135.246

Former-president Ford is dead.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061227/ap_on_re_us/obit_ford
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity?
posted @ Wed, Dec 27, 2006 12:23:54 am EST from 216.96.23.36

Well I had a really weird though this day. Crossovers that should never be.

CSI Miami/Miami Vice
CSI NY/Gargoyles
Starsinger
posted @ Tue, Dec 26, 2006 5:12:29 pm EST from 65.54.97.189

hehe, how about the merits of starting a facebook group for TGS? There's a topic....of sorts.

Ok so it's lame.

We could discuss dancing penguins?

Or how much it sucks to get a speeding ticket in Peoria, Illinois...
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Tue, Dec 26, 2006 12:33:02 am EST from 68.58.107.111

Anything, eh? Well, I've had this thing on my leg for a couple weeks now. I thought it was a spider bite, so I ignored it. Now it's more or less spread across my entire thigh, so that the whole area is red. I put some butter on it, but that just made it worse, I think. Because now it's secreting some clear fluid that smells like fish skin. And there's urine in my blood...

Nah, I'm just kidding. But consider that a warning. Never use the word "anything" around a professional smartass without tacking on a few specifics. ( ;

Merry Christmas, everyone!
Harvester of Eyes
"Your soul is an appalling dump heap... overflowing with the most disgraceful assortment of rubbish imaginable... mangled up in tangled up knots!"
posted @ Mon, Dec 25, 2006 10:08:47 am EST from 71.62.210.112

Merry Christmas, room! *lights a candle*

Silvadel: We're not going to start releasing anything until we can keep releasing it for a worthwhile period of time. People will not be drawn back if there are not regular updates, and we simply do not have enough consecutive stories ready yet to sustain updating regularly.

A weekly topic would be a good idea, even as bad as previous attempts to introduce topics to the room have been. Does anyone in the room have anything they'd like to discuss? Anyone at all?
Lynati
posted @ Mon, Dec 25, 2006 2:37:53 am EST from 71.163.27.144

Silvadel - why wipe this cr if there's not enough activity to justify it? Besides that, I'm betting this cr is going to be wiped ~midnight new year's eve.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity?
posted @ Mon, Dec 25, 2006 1:25:02 am EST from 216.96.23.36

As far as I am concerned a few things need to happen...

1) At least ONE episode has to happen in one of the main series (I prefer the main, and timedancer). Once you kick off the new season there will be added pressure to release more episodes in the season... Right now I think there is a lot of pressure against starting it. I know I have felt the same kind of resistance when it comes to starting a new project -- It also happens when trying to finish a new project. Something episodic like this can suffer from both phenomenon (resistance to finalizing the first episode and starting the season).

2) The comment room cant go quite so long between wipes. Right now we have several chatty things in the comment room that probably shouldnt be near the head of the text but we are posting so very little that it is not being buried... At any rate it has been 2 months now which makes it WAY overdue.

3) We need some kind of weekly topic or something -- even if it is analyzing a prior season or episode in one of the series.... Just SOMETHING to keep people talking.

---

At any rate Merry Christmas...
silvadel
posted @ Mon, Dec 25, 2006 12:08:20 am EST from 24.149.178.180

As an early christmas present, Todd Jensen brings us a review of Clan-Building: The Journey, the second issue of the new SLG comics. As with the previous one, I still need a synopsis to go with the review, plus this time I need the remaining credits. I know a lot of people out there have this issue (and the previous one) - can one of you send me a short summary about what happens in the comic to post on the GFW? (Yes, I know I could copy&paste from the TGC episode 'the journey', but that's not going to help for future issues, so why start NOW?)

Speaking of summaries - a couple of Season 2 and 3 episodes still lack one. To be precise, I still need 4 episodes of Season 2 (3 of those unclaimed, one claimed by Harvester of Eyes) and 3 episodes of Season 3 (claimed by D. Taina).
Guandalug la'Fay - [guandalug at gargoyles-fans dot org]
It has been said that the world is a strange place. This is not true. The world is a VERY strange place!
posted @ Sat, Dec 23, 2006 12:06:02 pm EST from 80.145.68.163

starting to be, eh? hee, join the club. ; )
Lynati
posted @ Fri, Dec 22, 2006 4:13:59 pm EST from 68.32.232.245

Elisa: i think your little dialogues are entertaining, but try not to post that much. I aggree it is fun though.

Anyways, what do all of us gargoyle fans think about the show? I like it, but I am starting to be obsessive. Literally. OBSESSIVE... I can't get gargoyles off my mind.
sally
posted @ Thu, Dec 21, 2006 4:00:29 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

THANK YOU.
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:10:23 pm EST from 68.58.107.111

I think this qualifies as trolling officially now, as opposed to just loosely earning the title.


Elisa, please stop posting here unless it is to take part in a conversation instead of spamming the room with meaningless prattle.
Lynati - [Lynati_1 at hotmail dot com]
"and these are the days that never end!"
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:01:06 pm EST from 71.163.27.144

SATA: i love you!

BROOKY: i ate pie!!

SATA: WHAT?!
elisa - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
^_^
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 9:08:10 pm EST from 75.72.181.189

MWA HAAHAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
insane dialogue!!
elisa - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
^_^
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 9:06:19 pm EST from 75.72.181.189

What in the wild blue fuck is going on here?

Anyway...

Greg B: Who is Gordon Purcell? A co-writer? I wonder if he's related to Steve Purcell.
Harvester of Eyes
"Darth Vader is a pussy." -The T-Shirt I just made.
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 7:34:06 pm EST from 71.62.210.112

So, I bought the new issue of Previews, and it had a solicitation for #4 of Gargoyles.

Here it is:

Gargoyles #4
by Greg Weisman & Gordon Purcell

Thailog's back in town! In an adventure that takes us from the Labyrinth to the Eyrie to the White House, the evil clone of Goliath is determined to collect on his debts. Can the scattered clan come together in time to stop Thailog and save Goliath? And does Goliath want to be saved, now that Elisa has broken his heart?
24pgs, FC..............................$3.50
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 6:12:10 pm EST from 67.87.175.245

Lynati - Glad to hear you made it okay. Stay safe, hear?

and oddly enough, I find this newest person spamming up the CR to be.,.. oddly endearing. I vote we don't chew her too bad.

howdy do, new person. So I hear you like Gargoyles?
Gunjack "Mystery Caver" Valentine - [<BOOM]
And the Sun Didn't Set For Two Whole Weeks
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 6:00:55 pm EST from 205.250.215.79

DEMONA: you smell funny...
GOLIATH: um...what?
DEMONA: you smell like candy...
GOLIATH: what is that?
DEMONA: can i eat you?
GOLIATH: of course not! why would you say that? are you okay?
DEMONA: RAOWR!!! ( digs teeth into goliath's shoulder..ouch..)
GOLIATH: HEY!!! OOOOWW!!!
------- terminated----
elsie - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
WHEEEE!!!!!
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:54:10 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

I love you Fish !!!!!!!

Who fish??????

No one !!!

Well if you LOVE SO MUCH JUST LIVE WITH HER!!!!!!!!!!

I did mean that dear!!!!!!!!!
duzzle ( elsie's pet friend...)
^o^
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:44:21 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

(dialogue between them...)
BRODWAY: wassup angie?
ANGELA: who?
BRODWAY: did you hear about brooklyn and sata? they aren't getting along... shame huh?
ANGELA: ... sure...
BRODWAY: what? you don't believe me?!!
ANGELA: it's not a matter of belief, i don't understand you, that'd all.
BRODWAY: oh. FREAK!!!
ANGELA: ... ( grabs a chair..) SWACK!!
BRODWAY: ( dodges it first time, gets hit the second...) OOOOOOOWWW!!!
------ THE END----- NO MORE VIOLENCE----- YAY!---
elsie - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
WHEEEE!!!!!
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:40:37 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

I don't get people ????

OH ! wait I'm not people I forgot !!!!!!!

I not going CRAZY !!!!!!!

Or am I going CRAZY!!!!!!!

You want a pice of ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
duzzle ( elsie's pet friend...)
^o^
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:36:39 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

(this is dialogue between brooky and sata)

SATA: so, bring home the bacon?
BROOKY: ?
SATA: you forgot didn't you..
BROOKY: what bacon? and what are you talking about?! i'm a gargoyle! not a urban job freak! YOU'RE CREEPY...
SATA: am not! i was just trying to be funny! sheesh!
BROOKY: (sigh...) O.K., what's for dinner?
SATA: what?! now you're being creepy!
-------- THE END------
elsie - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
WHEEEE!!!!!
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:34:05 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

I love you!!!!

What did you say???????

AAAAAAAAAAAAA nothing I said nothing at all!!!

O.K. what ever you say Goliath ?????
duzzle ( elsie's pet friend...)
^o^
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:27:33 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

hey yo peps wuzzi9zle up yo naaaa just kidden this is me!!!!
alexes holmes - [www dot luveskaterboyz at aol dot com]
alexes holmes
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:24:43 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

hey yo peps wuzzi9zle up yo naaaa just kidden this is me!!!!
alexes holmes - [www dot luveskaterboyz at aol dot com]
alexes holmes
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:24:37 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

OMG!! i saw this really gross pic of goliath and elisa.. it was nausiating...bleach..!
elsie - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
WHEEEE!!!!!
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:23:23 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

Fish and pie fish and pie elsie fish and pie !!!!!!

We will find you !!!! fish pie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiish and piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie
duzzle ( elsie's pet friend...)
^o^
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:21:25 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

elsa alexes here type back to me helllllllloooooooo!
alexes holmes - [www dot luveskaterboyz at aol dot com]
alexes holmes
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:21:20 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

hi peoples i like fish. hi duzzle!! this is CHATMANIANESS.... where i do nothing but be strange. and i like it!

i have been watching way to many gargoyles, 'cause i think broklyn's fallowing me...AAAAH! DON't SCARE ME LIKE THAT!!! ( whew...) wheeeeee!!!!
elsie - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
WHEEEE!!!!!
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:20:20 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

hey this is alexs or just call me lex i like that hi elsa how are ya gurl! w/b
alexes holmes - [www dot luveskaterboyz at aol dot com]
alexes holmes
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:17:17 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

Oh MY GODDESS!!! I AM PSYCOOOOOOO!!! WHEEEEEE!

Does anybody know where i can get garg comics? i'd really like to know....! ^o^
elsie - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
WHEEEE!!!!!
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:12:52 pm EST from 63.87.120.153

That's what I've been saying. Since my comp upgraded to IE7 I haven't been able to access the site properly. I checked other ones (Dark Ages, Bad Guys) and the URLs were all jumbled up. Like after I was at Timedancer, /TD/ kept showing up in the Dark Ages URL So if anyone knows something that I could do on my comp to make it so I don't have to fix it over and over again(besides faving every branch of the site) I'm open to advice.
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 10:06:18 am EST from 68.58.107.111

I noticed that the site links work with no problem under firefox on my Mac. mus be an Internet explorer issue
anonymous
posted @ Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:33:35 am EST from 65.13.122.214

AH HA!!

I went to the Timedancer page (the REAL one, lol) and the url had ...td/td/season1....
so I deleted the second td/ to see what happened and weeeee! I can see the stories again!! Now, how do I make that last, so I don't have to do it each time? Was this "repairing the tag?"


YAY!
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Tue, Dec 19, 2006 10:17:32 pm EST from 68.58.107.111

What do you mean by "repair the tag"? :(
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Tue, Dec 19, 2006 10:14:40 pm EST from 68.58.107.111

I arrived in Philly alright, for those Gunjacks of you who asked me to post and update them on my flight.

I can still access everything fine through TGS, except on occasion when the page pops up wrong, adding extra words even when the link you click does not include them. If you repair the tag, you get to the page just fine.

And I left a review- since you have to wait three days to send a Private Message and they hadn't left an email- on the fanfiction.net person's copy of Out of Joint 1 asking who they were and why they were doing this without asking or even informing the TGS staff of it.
Lynati
posted @ Tue, Dec 19, 2006 6:56:47 pm EST from 68.32.232.245

A moment of silence for Joe Barbara. A funny guy and a giant among animation. I hope I'll met his likes again, but fearful I will not.
Taleweaver
posted @ Mon, Dec 18, 2006 8:46:02 pm EST from 4.232.240.178

<But I just checked again, and now the "TGS" is gone. hmmmmm...> Yes that is strange.. Very strange indeed. Like someone did something wrong, and realized they had been caught
Anonymous
posted @ Mon, Dec 18, 2006 6:31:57 pm EST from 65.13.122.214

sorry, double post...

But I just checked again, and now the "TGS" is gone. hmmmmm...
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Mon, Dec 18, 2006 4:43:24 pm EST from 68.58.107.111

<not working> Yeah, I still can't access any of the stories on the main site (not the mirror site) They all come up file not found....
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Mon, Dec 18, 2006 4:37:01 pm EST from 68.58.107.111

I noticed the same thing, It looks like the story was copied and pasted, as the artwork is missing from the end of the story (Out of joint part 2, which Is chapter two in this story.)I have also noticed that most of the links to the stories within the TGS website are no longer working.
Anonymous
posted @ Mon, Dec 18, 2006 2:41:41 pm EST from 65.13.122.214

*looks it up*

The link doesn't work, but none of the current staff has mentioned the idea of reposting the fic on other sites, and none of the old staff has been in touch to discuss it either.

Does anybody have any clue what person has signed up "TGS" as a handle at fanfiction.net and is setting it up to repost the stories there? o.O
Lynati - [Lynati_1 at hotmail dot com]
posted @ Mon, Dec 18, 2006 2:10:42 am EST from 70.242.186.69

Hey what's up with the posting of Time Dancer's first season on fanfiction.net? Ummm I'd post a link to it here but I'm not sure its kosher to do so...(but it IS TGS...)
The author says TGS and in the story itself it says the authors of the TGS story and it seemed to be Out of Joint part 1 (didn't read it all), but when I clicked on the author link, and then to Homepage (thinking it would lead me back here) it went to a place not found....

No one announced such a project on here, and the story wasn't titled, either as a chapter title or the title of the story itself, so I wanted to post a heads up.

PS got my copy of issue 2 and can't WAIT for issue 3! Man, the one's I like gotta go for once every two months... This, Astonishing X-men.... :P

Guess I'm just an impatient soul...



Used waaay to many dot dot dot's in that post.
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Mon, Dec 18, 2006 1:54:04 am EST from 68.58.107.111

*googles the term and find their helpful website*

Hmm...yes, that will work well. Thank you. (I had a "girl scout" reference in a story but I was worried it was a bit too American and possibly anachronistic for the character making it, and I had a note to change it to something more appropriate.)
Lynati - [Lynati_1 at hotmail dot com]
posted @ Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:30:01 pm EST from 70.242.186.69

The Guides? Although I believe girls can now be Scouts too. They still had Brownies and Guides in the 90s though as the equivalent to Cubs and Scouts (8-12 and 12-16)
Ed
posted @ Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:17:24 pm EST from 213.187.39.235

Hey Ed, is there an English version of the Girl Scouts?
Lynati - [Lynati_1 at hotmail dot com]
posted @ Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:11:54 pm EST from 70.242.186.69

Elisa: Do you know the series is now out in comic book form? Issue #2 hit the shelves recently, #3 will be out next year.
Ed
posted @ Sat, Dec 16, 2006 5:49:41 pm EST from 213.187.39.235

not to be rude or anything.. i am just FRUSTATED about the slowness of the seasons on dvd... ^_^
elisa - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
^_^
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 9:54:38 pm EST from 75.72.181.189

did you get all of season 2??? i can't find the complete 2nd season, where did you get yours?! EH?!
elisa - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
^_^
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 9:52:36 pm EST from 75.72.181.189

I just got # 2 today. It was good. I can't wait until #3 comes out. I also picked up an issue of the Classic Battlestar Galactica that was good too. :)
Courtney
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 9:18:43 pm EST from 69.220.56.137

Also, this isn't a chat room. It's a comment room, which means this is not in real time.

You can click the link "images" http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/images to see all the avialable CR images; you don't have to keep making new posts to look at them.
Lynati
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 9:07:13 pm EST from 70.242.186.69

hi. i like pie. my name is cheese. i do nothing but be CRAZYYYY!!! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! and it is fun...!
elisa - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
^_^
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 8:47:08 pm EST from 75.72.181.189

oooh, SHINEY!!! pie pie pie pie pie pie pi epi epi epie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pi epi epiepieipie pie!!! SCORE!!! MWA HAHA HA HA HAAA HA HA ha...

OH THE CRAZINESS OF ME... >o<
elisa - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
^_^
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 8:45:25 pm EST from 75.72.181.189

okay... got any other suggestions? I don't really know about paper.. ^_^!
elisa - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
^_^
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 8:40:31 pm EST from 75.72.181.189

Elisaa: Whaaa-?

okay, the first post just made by brain explode. And the second, um, watercolor paper is one of the worst possible types to try and run through a printer. o.O
Lynati
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 8:08:01 pm EST from 70.242.186.69

Well, the best paper for that type of thing would probably be related to water color paper.. or something.. ^_^
elisaa - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
^_^
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 5:05:41 pm EST from 75.72.181.189

hello people of chatness! i am thinking of getting Gargoyles up and running again. All I need to do is find the original cast people, then go from there. Gargoyles is probably the best I have ever seen, and I hope there will be some new episodes!! ^o^ YAY!!!
elisaa - [monkeygirlina at hotmail dot com]
^_^
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 5:01:15 pm EST from 75.72.181.189

Find some regular glossy paper for the printing, and some heavy, heavy cardstock. after printing, glue the glossy to the backing with an adhesive that won't muck up the paper or bleed through the image. I think any office supply store would have the mats you need, or Kinko's.

And can some people who are not me reply to Shara's question? I've already spoken to her and she could use some more opinions.
Lynati
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 4:51:17 am EST from 70.242.186.69

Hey, got a question. Anybody of you guys know about paper? I'm looking to buy some paper to print out some computer graphics on, but I want some thicker/heavier than normal paper. Something that could almost work for Christmas ornaments. Any ideas?
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity?
posted @ Fri, Dec 15, 2006 2:01:38 am EST from 216.96.23.36

I picked up Gargoyles #2 this morning. Now, I have three local comic shops nearby, and visited all of them to see how they ordered the book. The one I frequent most only ordered the one copy I asked them to... I am hoping this is not a trend at most places, so, as Greg Weisman says, keep SPREADING THE WORD, and find local comic shops and encourage them to order it

Another shop, inside the shopping mall had three copies on sale, which I guess is average when you're not a comic being published by DC or Marvel Finally, one more had several copies of issue one and two, it's their Indie book of the week, and they are really pushing it.. one of the employees is a fan. But, we can't count on all the employees to be fans, so we need to encourage the stores to keep ordering.

Now, on to issue 2 itself.

Gargoyles #2
Clan-Building Chapter Two:
The Journey

More old material, with some new bits of dialogue in there. A lot more name-dropping, which, well, is understandable given that Greg needs to re-introduce everyone to the series and characters.

When last we left Goliath and Elisa, they were being pursued by several Quarrymen in a helicopter. Goliath takes several shots in the wing and plunges with Elisa to their deaths. Obviously, they don't die, or this would be a very short comic book.

This issue re-introduces us to Macbeth, who appears as a guest on Nightwatch debating Margot Yale (sporting a pink outfit, and being twice as repulsive as Professor Umbridge) about the "gargoyle problem". Macbeth is, of course, using his Lennox MacDuff alias... a medieval scholer and the author of a book titled "Gargoyles In Celtic Legend". Margot is an Assistent District Attorney and advisor to the NYPD's Gargoyle Task Force.

We are also re-introduced to Lexington, Fox and Alex. Fox seems to want to mend bridges with Lex, who, still is not fond of her, but since she's Alex's mother, he's willing to give it a shot. I suspect it's not going to be easy on either of them.

Then, we get Xanatos, who is so cool and, well, arrogant, that he just ignores a call from the Illuminati. I suspect we'll be hearing more from the All Seeing Society very soon.

Finally, we are re-introduced to Broadway and Angela, who, much to Brooklyn's disappointment, have started a relationship.

Goliath and Elisa are pursued by the Quarrymen, finally making their stand at the ruined Clocktower, where they easily defeat the Quarrymen, but are nearly killed by the hooded John Castaway. Vinnie, who was never comfortable with this, at first tries to talk Castaway out of killing them, but when it becomes clear (to Vinnie) that Castaway is a genocidal fanatic, Vinnie stands up to him, and is nearly killed because of it. Goliath manages to get the drop on him, but Castaway escapes. I am sure he and his Quarrymen will continue to make their presense known in NYC.

Goliath and Elisa thank Vinnie for helping them, and leaves, as mentioned last issue, he got a job in Japan. Goliath, as always, remains optimistic about the future, and despite the long hard journey, he has no regrets.

The issue ends with Macbeth and Margot yelling at each other. "Madame, they burned witches like you in the middle ages."... best line in the whole issue.

Overall:
I liked it. I wish it didn't take us an extra four months to get, but I liked it. Greg's script is strong, I liked it ten years ago, and I like it today. But, it is material that I've seen before. I understand why Greg chose to start out with this story, it makes a great introduction, but two issues of old-stuff along with the long wait have made this feel like climbing over a mountain instead of a hill. But, we're past it now, nothing but new material from here on out.

The art... I'm sorry, but I'm still not a fan of either Hedgecock's pencils or Terrell's coloring. Thankfully, I read on Terrell's blog that he's leaving the book with this issue. I have hopes that the next colorist will me more experienced and will do a much better job.

Demona returns next issue, folks. I can't wait.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Wed, Dec 13, 2006 1:03:39 pm EST from 68.202.44.89

I thought I'd pass this along -- a friend of mine on Deviant Art, Neomae from Germany, is starting up a major Gargoyles art project. One of the categories is fanfiction and one of the suggestions is that people submit names of fanfic characters for various artists to maybe do a new take on.

Are there any characters from TGS, Dark Ages, Pendragon or TimeDancer that you would like to see NEW art of? The deadline is June 1st, 2007 and there has been a proposal to send the finished piece to the Gathering.

If you are interested, please drop Neomae a line or post it here and I'll be happy to pass it along.

Thanks!
Spike
posted @ Wed, Dec 13, 2006 12:48:12 pm EST from 70.251.74.79

I thought I would post this here since no one seems to post back in the s8 comment room.

We are about to start on a TGS comic for the gargoyle webcomic , this one will take us probally a little less then a year to put together because we want to have a finished book.

Before we start I just wanted to get some feedback on the website and the webcomic it's self. What we could improve on. (yes I know timing is a bad curse of ours)

What kind of art style you would like the TGS book to be in etc.

I had never read any of the TGS stories. I found this part of the website after attending a few gatherings. Nice work. I am enjoying reading through all of them
Shara
posted @ Tue, Dec 12, 2006 4:59:58 pm EST from 4.245.116.137

BISHANSKY - Good point about Nicholas; I suppose that I was thinking more in terms of your mention that Avalon doesn't mean that much to him, the way that it did to his grandfather.

His genocidal hatred of gargoyles, by the way, strikes me as all the more interesting since he's not only Madoc's grandson on his father's side, but related to the Canmores on his mother's (in Season Four of "Pendragon", Mary Sefton was mentioned as being related to the Canmores through her mother Fiona - a namesake descendant of the Fiona Canmore of "The Last"). Though the former is the more significant factor (the Canmores' hatred of gargoyles was due to nurture rather than to nature, and Mary - fortunately - never received the full extent of anti-gargoyle conditioning that Jason, Robyn, and Jon received; she and Merlin also took care to educate their offspring about the true nature of gargoyles).
Todd Jensen
posted @ Tue, Dec 12, 2006 7:45:05 am EST from 4.244.214.60

Sounds like I need to get back into the habit of reading Timedancer. The last story I read (which, ironically, was the day before July 14th of this year) was "Survival." I'll try to say more later, but I have to run off to work now.
Harvester of Eyes
"Darth Vader is a pussy." -The T-Shirt I just made.
posted @ Tue, Dec 12, 2006 7:01:11 am EST from 71.62.210.112

TODD> I wouldn't say Nicholas is less ambitious than Madoc. He is very ambitious, it's just that his goals are different. Something I kept to myself while season four of Timedancer was being worked on, because I did not want the hand tipped so soon, since authors like to occasionally throw in hints.

It's not what Madoc would have gone for. For that matter it's not what Maeve and Garlon would go for either. Though one goal they do share is genocide of all gargoyles.

If I were to compare them literally. Madoc would be like Morgoth while Nicholas is a little like Sauron.

Morgoth and Sauron had different goals. Morgoth wanted to destroy all creation in defiance of his creator, Illuvatar. Sauron, when he became Dark Lord did not seek this, he wanted to conquer and rule all of Middle Earth as a God-King. One may be following the other, but those are very different goals.

Not saying those are what Madoc and Nicholas's goals are, just an example. It was important to me as I developed Nicholas's character that he not simply be Madoc II The Sequel. He is very different, and I planned to depict that in season five.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Tue, Dec 12, 2006 1:51:17 am EST from 68.202.44.89

My favorite question is what would have happened to Goliath's clan if the massacre hadn't occurred.

We know from Avalon part 1 that Constaine was working on a coup, but what part, if any, did Princess Katherine's arrival play on the timing of those events?

Too many variables to really work out things.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity?
posted @ Tue, Dec 12, 2006 1:28:19 am EST from 216.96.23.36

I wasn't planning on elaborating much more, since this is the TGS chat room and not the Lynati fic chat room...*^_^* it just seemed relevant at the time. But since you asked:

It was more about "okay, I know the SUW doesn't happen. Why would it not happen? ...Madoc must be dead. How did he die?" etc. I wanted to work out how the present came to be before I started developing the future. From what I recall, Merlin didn't know about Madoc's death. He always assumed Madoc was still out there, biding his time and watching for the opportune moment. So Merlin was pretty much the same to the extent of worrying about Madoc...until he uncovered the truth. (And if you are curious, Romulus never becomes Nicholas, something happened that kept Merlin from hiding the truth about their power, so even assuming Garlon made a try for Romulus, he was too loyal to his father to be easily led astray.)

And I never had the chance to focus on him and his potential growth after that point. Since I'm focused on developing TGS stuff and not my old stories right now, it seems a bit moot to go into the what-might-yet-be's.

...Unless you just want to have a discussion of how AU developments of characters might have turned out if they never were forced to come to turning points that were cruxes in their canonical characterization. *That* might be a topic to liven up the room with, move to generalizations and away from specific author's alternate takes on the master plan.
Lynati
posted @ Tue, Dec 12, 2006 12:56:51 am EST from 70.242.186.69

I think that Madoc's response towards Nicholas would certainly have been interesting. On the one hand, as Bishansky points out, Nicholas seems more petty, which Madoc would have been disappointed by. On the other hand, I think that Madoc would have been delighted by the impact that Nicholas's activities would have had upon Merlin, with a tone of "Now you too will know the pain that comes from being betrayed by your own son!" The big question would be: which would matter more to Madoc? That his grandson was far less ambitious than he was, or that his activities would at least serve as a means for Madoc to get his final revenge on Merlin, even if beyond the grave? Pity that we'll never know.
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, Dec 11, 2006 11:05:44 pm EST from 4.245.21.115

I think Lynati explained her idea of Madoc being killed in the 13th century a few years ago, but, it's her thing, I'll let her elaborate.

As for me, I think that if Madoc were killed long before the events of the Rising, many things would have been different. Loki would probably have still escaped when he did, and the Unseelies' power would have returned, but well, Madoc was their leader. The one they rallied around. Their chosen king.

I think the events around the time the Rising would have taken place would have been much more chaotic as so many of these malevolent fay would have revelled in having their powers return. Maeve may have rallied a few, but instead of being an organized, disciplined army, it would have been more like, say, al Qaeda, various "cells" of gods with a master race complex.

That's one of the things I wanted to explore in season five of Timedancer, with the new Unseelie Court, and how different Nicholas II's style of leading them is. Madoc ran things as a despot. A monarch. Nicholas, I always felt ran things more like a gangster, or a corrupt business man.

Honestly, I don't think Madoc would have approved. Especially since, Nicholas's goals were/are very different than his grandfather's. For example, he doesn't care at all about conquering Avalon. Why would he? He has no emotional attachment to the place.

I'd say more, but I don't know how much of the plan for him I handed the TGS staff after I retired they still plan to use.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Mon, Dec 11, 2006 10:26:20 pm EST from 68.202.44.89

Madoc being killed back in the 13th century? It would have been interesting to see how that alteration would have changed Merlin, given that a major aspect of his characterization in the first two seasons of TGS was his fear of his father being after him. Would he have been more at ease in the present-day - or not (though maybe in this case out of the fear of how much of his father might be in him)?

Though, of course, Lynati's scenario probably focused on how Madoc dying before 1300 would have impacted the other Unseelies (such as Maeve and Garlon) than on how it would have impacted Merlin. It certainly gets me curious, all the same.
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, Dec 11, 2006 9:08:46 pm EST from 4.245.21.115

Spike: Cool. I love watching how your take on it develops; after I discovered the TGS universe my own world wound up incorporating large bites of it (or rather, examining how TGS-based events would have unfolded if certain plot elements were removed; e.g. Brooklyn never becoming the Timedancer and Madoc having been killed back in the 13th century). The whole gargoyles fandom fiction lives off of diversity, after all; if we were all telling the exact same story as eachother or Greg Weisman, the reading wouldn't be *nearly* as interesting.

AJ: I'm sure both the previous and current staff members appreciate hearing that; I do and my public contributions are only a gnat's hair of the project. I hope you find the future seasons of Gargoyles as enjoyable as the ones already released.
Lynati
posted @ Mon, Dec 11, 2006 8:18:52 pm EST from 70.242.186.69

Lynati>> Thanks, I wasn't sure whether TGS had used the Korean clan or not. However, I'm going incorporate them into my indie stories and continue to veer off from the TGS mainstream. They'll make a good substitute for the Persian/Egyptian garg plotline that I never really followed anyway.
Spike
posted @ Mon, Dec 11, 2006 2:56:57 pm EST from 70.251.119.108

I love what you guys have done with the Gargoyles mythos, regarding the new seaons. It' sgreat.
AJ Douglas - [andrewfangmark at aol dot com]
posted @ Mon, Dec 11, 2006 9:02:23 am EST from 168.169.227.63

Yeah. Greg has some good ideas for clans, but I like what TGS did also. I'm partial to the Persian and Antarctic Clans myself.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Mon, Dec 11, 2006 12:23:26 am EST from 68.202.44.89

In TGS - the version of the Saga posted here, at least - there isn't a clan in Korea. At least, we've never mentioned one, and there is no plan to have one exist in the present day. (I'm not sure that all of Weisman's world clan list had been revealed at the time TGS had active Timedancing going on, and even after the staff deliberately didn't make a clan in every place he mentioned once they were all revealed.)
Lynati
posted @ Sun, Dec 10, 2006 10:47:25 pm EST from 70.242.186.69

Question for the room: Did Brooklyn or Sata ever visit the Pukhan clan in Korea during their travels in TimeDancer?

Fanfic writers want to know!!
Spike
posted @ Sun, Dec 10, 2006 9:24:45 pm EST from 70.251.80.255

Greg B: I've already got my form of crack, and it's good old fashioned 16-bit (16-bit Zelda is still one of the best games ever).
Harvester of Eyes
"Butters, go buy World of Warcraft and join the online sensation before we all murder you." -An approximate quote, I think.
posted @ Sat, Dec 9, 2006 9:31:31 am EST from 69.175.67.68

Sorry double post:

PS. I hope the 13th is the right date, cause I was on vacation for the 29th and was all looking forward to coming home to some comic-y goodness, only to be outta the loop and disappointed. Ahhh patience.
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Fri, Dec 8, 2006 9:41:09 pm EST from 68.58.107.111

Silvadel: <Games like the original everquest where it is more likely you will stay for a few years if you get hooked on it are more "dangerous.">

I got a bad track record with such games. I view WoW pretty much the same as Everquest. Like Greg said: crack.
My uncle's family was all hooked on it and due to the "interactiveness" of the game, the marriage dissolved. I feel bad for my uncle. He didn't really do anything wrong. I won't go into it all here but it definatly taught me to stay away from such games. Now my boyfriend is hooked on it, his three roomies are hooked on it (one worse than the others). At least my boyfriend and I have worked out an understanding. He really likes to tell his guild that he can't go to a certain raid because he has to hang out with his _girlfriend_. LOL.
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Fri, Dec 8, 2006 9:39:56 pm EST from 68.58.107.111

Actually WoW is one of those things that is fun for a month -- then you hit the level cap -- see the repetative raids to get a 0.01% improvement per day of effort and quit.

If you want real raids there are better places to get them. I really think where wow went wrong was not having a level 150 cap and 3 more continents.

Games like the original everquest where it is more likely you will stay for a few years if you get hooked on it are more "dangerous."
silvadel
posted @ Fri, Dec 8, 2006 5:13:02 pm EST from 24.149.178.180

WoW is like crack. Dangerous, addictive, and if you're smart, you'll stay away from it. Never played it, not going to start.

ADAM> Yes, the 13th is the correct date.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Fri, Dec 8, 2006 4:35:28 pm EST from 68.202.44.89

Hi everyone. I know that this is not totally accurate, but according to wikipedia, Gargoyles #2 comes out on December 13th.
Adam - [carl006_1999 at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Fri, Dec 8, 2006 4:27:44 pm EST from 170.112.1.251

Ahhh, they should have known better than to try an honor system. Honor systems in general are a bad idea. I mean, I'll follow them, but I've never been very smart.

And honestly, I've never understood WoW. I've played the paper version at friends' houses (which, honestly, we spend half the time joking around and talking about movies, anyway), but as far as video games are concerned, I've always been old school.
Harvester of Eyes
"Butters, go buy World of Warcraft and join the online sensation before we all murder you." -An approximate quote, I think.
posted @ Fri, Dec 8, 2006 6:45:28 am EST from 69.175.67.68

Alright, when we have enough to consitute a "block" ready, we'll start posting them. It'll still be one story a week until the block is done, not all on one night. And it won't be before February at the earliest.

Dezi: Heh, you might get that writer back if the author is having the same problems with the new patch that we are. The new honor system bites rotting tomatoes, the "improved" LFG interface is a step backward instead of forward, and the battlegrounds are currently bugged.
...
*cough*

Anyway, I have a parody website to get back to compiling material for... might be worth linking in here when I'm done, hm.
Lynati
posted @ Fri, Dec 8, 2006 3:36:51 am EST from 70.242.186.69

I'd say go ahead. Post a chunk. Most of the non-garg fan fiction I was reading got put on perpetual hold because the author would get addicted to that damned Warcraft that SOMETHING needs to get interesting again.

Yay! Thanks.
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Fri, Dec 8, 2006 2:00:23 am EST from 68.58.107.111

I don't mean everything needs to be finished before you start, just that it is possible for it to be finished. I think we had 20 out of 24 Pendragons done before we ran S4 and that just about worked because everything could be finished up in the 5 month span. But I'd say it's better to wait a little longer and be careful than to get ahead of the game and risk ending up with RL giving TGS GBH of the schedule.

As for losing the audience, I think if people are still reading now, the better part of a decade since the last 'Gargoyles' season, they're fairly likely to be checking in a year from now. It will only be worth checking in regularly though if you can get that momentum going.

On the other hand, if you can make the segments feel like there's a sense of climax that could work well. UK television seasons are generally 6 or 10 episodes, rarely any more than 13. But those are whole seasons, not just part of seasons. Depends what the flow of the episodes is really. Should be fun to see, anyway.
Ed
posted @ Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:18:45 pm EST from 213.187.39.235

Greg B: Yeah, it was something like that. "Hunter's Moon" aired before my brother's birthday, which is in May.
Harvester of Eyes
"She's really turned on by the television. And vice versa." -Ian Anderson.
posted @ Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:45:30 am EST from 69.175.67.68

Yeah, ideally, you'd want one a week, but I still think releasing them in chunks is okay. You're at least getting material out there. Certainly nothing wrong with not having the whole season ready when the first story is posted.

Afterall, few professional TV shows go through their entire seasons for 22 episodes without occasional breaks.

Hell, Gargoyles didn't have all 52 episodes ready to go for season 2. We had new episodes from September till November, then new eps in February and then new eps in May, if I recall correctly. Its been over ten years.

But, oh yeah, TGS is definitely the epitome of "Real Life Happens". Always has been.

FIRESTORM> Sorry to year LM is ill. Send her my best wishes.
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:35:17 am EST from 68.202.44.89

Fire Storm: as long as you guys are okay. my paranoia was kicking in their with worst case scenario, like she'd caught a secondary infection during the recover and, well, worst case scenario. : \ I'm sorry to hear she's sick again, but glad to hear she's still around to be so.
...and God knows The Gargoyles Saga has become the embodiment for "RL happens". If it's going to be a couple months or more before anything can be done for the site, I can live with that. If the overhaul is called off for the foreseable future, well, its not like we haven't had this version for about a decade, it can wait until you guys have the time and inclination to work on it again.
I just like to know where things stand.

Ed: it wouldn't be a five month break between sections. at least, I hope not. and while that would be my preference as well to get everything done and then start posting, it would mean delaying the release of everything until, well, we don't even know when. Probably a point at which we'd have lost the few loyal readers who have stuck around this long. It's a toss up between having the first half of the season starting in, say, the first quarter of 2007 and then the second half later on, or waiting until probably the third quarter to get anything at all.
Lynati
posted @ Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:20:03 am EST from 69.154.241.161

Lynati: Sorry, but LM and I have been busy lately, what with the people physicly taking control of my mind and making me kill someone, trying to drive me insane, on the run from the cops, etc...

And then I died, fell in love with the cop who has been trying to arrest me, I turned into God/Neo, and went all super-Saien on some floaty AI/Cyborg as the world was turning to ice.

...

Oh wait, that was the plot to Indigo Prophecy.

Seriously though, we've been busy. Work, family events, my sisters wedding, many doctors appointments, and now LM is sick again.

Plus... Eve Online and the Something Awful forums haven't helped in my case ;)

LM is sorry she hasn't responded, but she hasn't been able to work on the site too much, and because of that, she didn't know how to reply to your e-mails.

As for the problem HickoryDuff... It seems to be an odd way that IE7 is handling relative URLs. This is also why I really hate relative URLs.
Fire Storm
Easy come, easy go. Little high, little low. Any way the wind blows, nothing really matters to me.
posted @ Mon, Dec 4, 2006 9:53:09 pm EST from 67.38.5.3

I'm for anything at this point. Though lately I find myself still wading through Season Two of Timedancer because time and I are having disagreements.
Harvester of Eyes
"She's really turned on by the television. And vice versa." -Ian Anderson.
posted @ Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:47:57 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

My preference would be to see one series released at a time (either BG or Gargoyles) on a regular schedule (weekly or fortnightly) with breaks between blocks of no more than a couple of months, ending on some definite point of conclusion/climax. TGS needs the momentum to re-establish an audience, and personally I know if you drop 5 months in the middle I'll just forget it all because my memory's like that. I worked on 'Gargoyles 4' breakdowns but I can hardly remember a thing about it even though I had it all in my head at some point. So please don't start until you're ready to finish.

It would also be nice if at all possible to see shorter instalments (this may mean more multi-parters which might help ease your schedule I guess). As a reader, I've always tended to enjoy more concise TGS stories just because they're easier to make time for and less hassle to keep up with on a regular basis. It's one of the reasons I still haven't got back into "Hungry Shadows" -- I can't remember the first part well enough now, the first part alone is vast, and it's just become one on the (enormous) list of things I want to get around to reading one of these days.

Anyway, whatever you do, best of luck! :)
Ed
posted @ Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:37:34 pm EST from 213.187.39.235

I'm all for the 'chunk-release' idea. Let them stories roll....

... just tell me WHEN you start doing this, so I can keep the mirror site updated :)
Guandalug la'Fay - [guandalug at gargoyles-fans dot org]
It has been said that the world is a strange place. This is not true. The world is a VERY strange place!
posted @ Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:02:43 pm EST from 80.145.39.27

I hadn't known that about season 1. I could have guessed it from the release dates, but I wouldn't have known if they were planned breaks or unexpected delays.

The current thought - which we've just opened up to discussion on the staff list as well as here - is to do Gargs 4 as two releases of 12 and then 10 stories, and Bad Guys season 1 as three releases, probably 8-6-6. And possibly alternating the blocks between BG 1 and Gar 4. It might confuse the readers a litte, but it would allow us to release more stories at once (twenty weeks worth to start with), with the hope that the next block would be finished while the current one was being released. There'd probably be a month or so hiatus after the first block of Garg stories, depending on when they were released and how far the next block of stories was. It would be nice- although I'm not holding my breath - to get the first two blocks (8 bg 12 garg) out before this year's Gathering, and then take a break from posting between late June and early July.

Anyone else out there, staff or not, who'd care to weigh in? This is a relevant discussion to anyone who is interested in reading more TGS, and you have an opportunity to speak up and let us know how you want us to handle this. Even if it is only to say, "whatever you decide is fine with me."
Lynati
posted @ Mon, Dec 4, 2006 5:58:53 pm EST from 69.154.241.161

Hmm, how many stories are planned for the season? When I left, there were about 20 (give or take), and I know you and the rest have since revamped a lot.

So, if, say, you have twenty. Four blocks of five stories, or five blocks of four stories could be the way to go.

When season one was being posted, stories went out in blocks... mostly because stories were often written and handed in late. "Perchance to Dream" was posted late, because the original author went AWOL, we never heard from her again, and it had to be written from scratch by someone else.
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Sun, Dec 3, 2006 5:25:02 pm EST from 68.202.44.89

Greg: all remaining readers' opinions count in this, and that is the way my mind is thinking. We have some stories ready to go, but we don't want to release them in a trickle; we need to focus on getting the stories in between the finished ones written so we can release them in blocks. Have something to keep people coming back to the site week after week for several months straight.
Lynati
posted @ Sun, Dec 3, 2006 3:40:58 pm EST from 70.132.192.169

LYNATI> I'm sure my opinion doesn't mean much of anything on this subject, but, releasing it in parts sounds like a good idea. If you have any stories ready to go, could drive up interest, get people excited.

Also, in my experience, when recruitment drives are done, most people I think sign up just so they can get the spoilers. Very few stick around.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Sun, Dec 3, 2006 1:00:03 am EST from 68.202.44.89

So...no one's seen Lady Mystic around? anyone have word on what she and Fire Storm are up to?

We thought about doing another staff drive to try and pick up the writing pace, but the last couple failed, not from lack of offers for help, but because the two people we did wind up bringing on board turned out to have no familiarity with the story to date. One left to go "familiarize" himself with it over a year ago and we haven't heard from him since. The other was just became too busy with RL to even do that, as far as I know.

There has been some recent discussion between a couple of the staff members about releasing the seasons in parts, since that way we'd have something for people to read while we're working on the back half of the seasons. Maybe its something we should poll on.
Lynati
"and these are the days that never end!"
posted @ Sat, Dec 2, 2006 9:54:13 pm EST from 70.132.192.169

Slower and slower -- we need some kind of revival here or it is going to die.
silvadel
posted @ Sat, Dec 2, 2006 7:48:47 pm EST from 24.149.178.180

Taleweaver: I figured that. My father lived in Manhattan for almost ten years. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't mucking anything up.
Harvester of Eyes
"She's really turned on by the television. And vice versa." -Ian Anderson.
posted @ Thu, Nov 30, 2006 6:58:22 am EST from 69.175.67.68

Question: I was talking to a friend (and casual fan of Gargoyles) about the series, he was looking for it to download, I told him to buy it cause of sales and all that. He wondered if it counts if he orders it on Netflix?

sorry if I dont respond right away, I will be away for a few days. Thanks!
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Wed, Nov 29, 2006 10:57:14 am EST from 69.137.244.26

Yep. It didn't have the ice rink, they only put that end for the winter season.
Taleweaver
posted @ Tue, Nov 28, 2006 11:52:08 pm EST from 207.69.137.201

Quick technical question: in the Third Act of "The Mirror," did the clan have their showdown with Demona and Puck in Rockefeller Center? It looked familiar.
Harvester of Eyes
"She's really turned on by the television. And vice versa." -Ian Anderson.
posted @ Mon, Nov 27, 2006 8:46:04 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

Well, I finally read the last part of Hungry Shadows and although I don't have the time for an indepth review right now, I'll just state that it's very good (and seeing that this page is still somewhat alive is even better).

Cheers, people
Murazor - [critogar at yahoo dot es]
posted @ Mon, Nov 27, 2006 8:00:31 am EST from 193.144.197.164

LYNATI - I checked the pages in question (they were from the end of 2001 - I'd wanted to reread a few posts that myself and a few others had made about the approach of the first "Lord of the Rings" movie), and, yep, they're back up again. And thank goodness for that.
Todd Jensen
posted @ Sun, Nov 26, 2006 6:43:03 pm EST from 4.245.17.44

Todd: as of sometime last night, the same thing seems to have happened to every page but the Index of the secure site. They all load into white screens. I checked when after I tried to upload files to it, I was given the message "this is a read-only" something, and it refused to complete the action. And I'd updated another thing early in the afternoon without a problem.

I dropped a note to the server managers, I thought they might have been doing maintenance but wasn't sure.


...However, looking *now* they all seem to be back up. Since I have no idea what time period you were looking at, can you go back to the pages you were looking at in the archive and see if they, too, are back?

and, yep, upload capacity is back as well.
Lynati
posted @ Sun, Nov 26, 2006 8:36:58 am EST from 70.243.66.183

I was taking a look at the archives for this comment room last night, and discovered that a few of them are now blank (as in, when I click on the link, all that I get is a white screen) and one doesn't even load all the way. Could this be looked into?
Todd Jensen
posted @ Sun, Nov 26, 2006 7:36:33 am EST from 4.244.210.1

Lynati>Hehe not that Im not so busy with work and RL problems I will give you a ring or aim rather about making a TGS into a comic :)

In the meanwhile I thought I would post this while we finish getting the holiday issue up. This is the cover for the holiday issue. We only have the cover done right now.

http://www.ka-blamo.com/gargs/holiday.html

Let me know what you all think
Shara
posted @ Sat, Nov 25, 2006 11:26:31 pm EST from 4.245.121.208

Well, the last few days I've been asleep the hours you are usually awake, so I haven't been sweating you not being online. ; )

But thank you very much for dropping me a line regardless. ^_^
Lynati
posted @ Fri, Nov 24, 2006 6:45:52 am EST from 70.244.251.68

Hey, Lynati? Just wanted to drop a line and tell you that I haven't been trying to avoid you... I've just been really busy the last few days, and haven't had time to sign on messenger... (and last night, I was in bed and too tired to get up.)

Anyway, I'll try to get in touch soon...
Gunjack "Mon Sewer" Valentine - [< Hazard Pay]
posted @ Thu, Nov 23, 2006 6:38:01 pm EST from 205.250.215.79

GregX: Oooooooh. THAT discussion. Yeah I was lurking and reading that, but it sounded like that guy had said something had come down officially. Like a Disney Decree or something. If there is still a chance, that dude shoulda stopped ranting and gone out to buy some interesting Christmas presents for all his friends. ;) Ok un-confused now.
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Tue, Nov 21, 2006 10:50:31 am EST from 69.137.244.26

Yeah, that's a problem with the browser, not the site. (and I have zero clue what could be causing it, maybe the firefox upgrade is simply bugged.)
We haven't done any work on the public site, although there are plans to do so in the future.

On that note, has any seen Lady Mystic or Fire Storm around in the last month or so?
Lynati
posted @ Tue, Nov 21, 2006 2:41:22 am EST from 70.244.251.68

HickoryDuff - I'm at a complete loss for your problem. Nothing in the code in the links for stories or indexes of stories is browser specific.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity?
posted @ Tue, Nov 21, 2006 1:30:44 am EST from 216.96.22.251

Ha, it would seem I have found the problem, if their is one.

When I click on a link to enter the area that contains the list of episodes of the season, it doesn't make the right URL:

This is with IE7:

http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/garg/garg/season2/index.html

See the error? Two garg folders, when their is only supposed to be one. Only does it in IE for me.
HickoryDuff - [dnarn_kuuk at hotmail dot com]
I've twice been conquered, three times more, never again shall humanity purge me, and never the Pfhor!
posted @ Mon, Nov 20, 2006 11:24:43 pm EST from 24.202.147.50

Dezi> On the second half of season 2, I need to ask... where have you been?

Yes, it is true. Sales for volume one have been disappointing, and at the moment, there is no schedualed release date for volume 2. It could still happen, but we need to raise sales.

As for his rant... it was retarded, and written by someone with his head in the clouds. Disney doesn't owe us anything, nor do we owe Disney anything. They released two DVDs so far, and we bought them. Unfortunatly, not enough of us bought them.

I hate it to, but I spent a year and a half at business school, I can understand this as a business decision.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Mon, Nov 20, 2006 11:01:30 pm EST from 68.202.44.89

While that is great news, some dude over at the fanfic site posted a rant about the fandom and said that the second season part 2 wasn't coming out....Is this true? Or a mindless rant?
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Mon, Nov 20, 2006 10:31:13 pm EST from 69.137.244.26

Well, guess what... according to Diamond Distributions, at long last:

Gargoyles #2
Wednesday, November 29th

http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/expected_112906.txt

This is the expected list, which means there's a 95% chance of it coming out on this date. So, just another week and a half.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:42:31 pm EST from 68.202.44.89

It would appear its random. I thought it was fixed last night, but now it doesn't work anymore. Only ones I'm able to reach are the stories on the current episode page.
HickoryDuff - [dnarn_kuuk at hotmail dot com]
I've twice been conquered, three times more, never again shall humanity purge me, and never the Pfhor!
posted @ Sun, Nov 19, 2006 3:54:56 pm EST from 24.202.147.50

Well, the mirror site started out as my private collection of TGS stories, with unified layout and unMicrosoftified HTML (special characters that shouldn't be there, and such).

Somewhen later, I simply asked the TGS crew if it would be okay with them to HAVE such a mirror-site publically available. I received a 'yes'. Thus, the site went 'public' (it already was online for those who knew where to find it). Now, if something should happen to the Servercave network (and thus to about ALL major Gargoyles sites - S8, GFW, GFA, Avalon, MGC, AMGC, TGS, ....), we have at least a backup of those stories.

Unlike the link on some of the TGS pages, this is NOT a 'text only' mirror - never was. But all stories now are clean HTML (not Microsoft Word HTML), and most of them are cnverted to new, crisp XHTML already, plus got a 'navigation' that allows a reader to directly go to the next or previous story. And yes, Google knows about my mirror page - the stats don't lie :)
Guandalug la'Fay - [guandalug at gargoyles-fans dot org]
It has been said that the world is a strange place. This is not true. The world is a VERY strange place!
posted @ Sun, Nov 19, 2006 1:33:25 pm EST from 80.145.44.144

This time, on the "regular" site, I could only get into Timedancer,and got error messages on all the others. I had no problem with the mirror site though. How come there is a mirror site? (just curious)
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Sun, Nov 19, 2006 1:20:07 pm EST from 69.137.244.26

As for the IE 404s... while I don't really UNDERSTAND the problem, does it happen on the 'backup' / mirror server as well? (Yes, I know, the latest story still ain't up there - did notice the release late, and didn't immediately have the time to add it - will do so later today).
Guandalug la'Fay - [guandalug at gargoyles-fans dot org]
It has been said that the world is a strange place. This is not true. The world is a VERY strange place!
posted @ Sun, Nov 19, 2006 9:02:06 am EST from 80.145.44.144

Hickory: That e-mail might have been from me. I guess I shouldn't have used my real name in it. But I figured that if we were going to discuss the trilogy in depth, it might be a good idea to take it out of a Gargoyles comment room.
Harvester of Eyes
"She's really turned on by the television. And vice versa." -Ian Anderson.
posted @ Sat, Nov 18, 2006 8:35:23 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

Got an email saying that, I'll have to go check it out and see if I could get ir running on my machine, I'd like to be able to go through the original once again. But I've got other games to finish first....


Also, I'm not saying Firefox sucks, its just I prefer IE's interface. I never have spyware or viruses, so getting Firefox to prevent against that is a moot point.
HickoryDuff - [dnarn_kuuk at hotmail dot com]
I've twice been conquered, three times more, never again shall humanity purge me, and never the Pfhor!
posted @ Sat, Nov 18, 2006 4:40:38 pm EST from 24.202.147.50

Hickory: I too must concur that Firefox is a superior animal.

And finally, someone else in one of the Gargoyles CRs publicly admits their love of the Marathon games. Oh, Callooh Callay!

Yeah, Marathon is the best way of identifying someone who was a Mac user in the 1990s. You are aware that Bungie has made the source codes public, right? ( ;
Harvester of Eyes
"She's really turned on by the television. And vice versa." -Ian Anderson.
posted @ Sat, Nov 18, 2006 4:13:11 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

Dezi: Glad to know I'm not the only one... Its probably a broken IE tag or something.

Greg: IE 7 is a substantial upgrade over IE 6. I like it alot, although there are features that I find annoying. In any case, I want to be able to read those stories ;)

Harvester: Now, what would make you think I wouldn't remember such an awesome series? ;)
HickoryDuff - [dnarn_kuuk at hotmail dot com]
I've twice been conquered, three times more, never again shall humanity purge me, and never the Pfhor!
posted @ Sat, Nov 18, 2006 3:12:45 pm EST from 24.202.147.50

Hickory: Please tell me you remember the Marathon Trilogy.
Harvester of Eyes
"At least the killing part appeals to you, doesn't it?" -Durandal
posted @ Sat, Nov 18, 2006 1:22:37 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

Internet Explorer sucks.

Use Firefox.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Sat, Nov 18, 2006 12:55:35 pm EST from 68.202.44.89

Hmmm, I just upgraded to 7 too, and now most of the series are 404 messages, except Bad Guys was there but the "logo" wouldn't load....
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Sat, Nov 18, 2006 11:11:04 am EST from 69.137.244.26

Hey guys.

I was reading through the stories again, but now it says page not found on all the indexes of the seasons of whatever "series" I'm trying to find. Now, is it because I've upgraded to IE 7? OR are the databases temporarily off line?

Thanks!
HickoryDuff - [dnarn_kuuk at hotmail dot com]
Escape will make me God
posted @ Sat, Nov 18, 2006 9:25:30 am EST from 24.202.147.50

Wow. I'm a little surprised that Patrick hasn't shown up to make some joke concerning who would be the authority on what Demona tastes like. ( ;

On another note, I just came from ASK GREG, and noticed that Todd didn't filter out all my n00bish questions from long ago. Well, c'est la vie.
Harvester of Eyes
"Let fury have the hour. Anger can be power. Don't you know that you can use it?" -The only band that really matters.
posted @ Fri, Nov 17, 2006 8:41:42 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

The ghouls did not skeletonize her, I'll say that much- and the weird trio did not directly intervene. Assuming they did try to snack on her, who is to say they'd even like the taste of gargie blood? Or that as soon as she regenerated from the fight with Fiona she didn't simply summon up a fire and burn them up until the Chief of the bone eaters let her go? That it is left up to the individual reader's imagination is sort of the point. I believe the current intent is to never clarify just what she went through for that reason, although I do believe we (will) later reference how she got away from them.
Lynati
posted @ Thu, Nov 16, 2006 11:08:08 pm EST from 70.244.251.68

Aaron: Bishansky beat me to the punch. Concerning Demona in "Awakening, Part Five," I actually jumped to the same conclusion once myself.

I too think it would be pretty ridiculous to have a miraculous healing take place, which is what I felt was implied at the end of the last chapter of "Hungry Shadows." But by the same token, 1,000 years is a very long time. I think it unlikely that in all that time, both Demona and Macbeth have made it through without getting a scratch. Of course, Demona also has a tendency to take wing when things start to get hairy. So who can say?
Harvester of Eyes
A few weeks ago, I learned that if you spend your life practicing intolerance and annoying complete strangers on trains with your Bible, then professional moron and spaghetti-monster worshipper Pat Robertson just might appear at YOUR funeral!
posted @ Thu, Nov 16, 2006 8:53:20 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

For the 'Demona and Macbeth' debate we still have the essay of 'Jurgan' (see my link), with which I agree - the spell was immortality, no doubt, and not to be trifled with, but invulnerable both are not..... I linked Jurgan's essay for those who don't know it or don't remember.
Guandalug la'Fay - [guandalug at gargoyles-fans dot org]
It has been said that the world is a strange place. This is not true. The world is a VERY strange place!
posted @ Thu, Nov 16, 2006 6:50:11 pm EST from 80.145.26.15

AARON> <<Demona fell, unconcious and surrounded by falling rubble, off the Eyrie Building, and turned up again without a scratch in Tempation. Did the Weird Sisters contrive her up something soft to land on, and steer all the rocks away?>>

According to Greg, she did not go splat, she managed to "right herself" and glide away. Which, sounds reasonable to me.

I will admit, I think Wolverine's healing factor has grown beyond ridiculous... I hate to acknowledge 90% of what went on in the 90s, but Magneto tearing the adamantium out of Logan, and Jean having to hold him together with her mind, was reasonable... because he would have died. And yet, not too long ago, Nitro is able to incinerate Logan down to his adamantium skeleton... and he recovers! Now, I love the current "Civil War" story, but that was beyond ridiculous.

I think fate and destiny playing a part in what's going on with Demona Macbeth is interesting. The Sisters are the Fates, the Norns. I like that sort of thing. I find it more fascinating than... Demona and Macbeth growing new heads, or the heads miraculously re-attaching themselves.

As for why the Sisters would care? There are three aspects to the Sisters. Fate, Grace and Vengeance. Obviously, grace in in play there, just as much as fate.

Of course, this is all my opinion, I could be wrong ;)
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Thu, Nov 16, 2006 6:16:35 pm EST from 68.202.44.89

Meh, just my take on things.

The Weird Sisters quasi-being the Fates or not, such a spell as Greg describes would be, by far, the most powerful application of magic ever displayed in the gargoyles universe, bar none.

Also, I can't frankly see the Weird Sisters caring that much, to keep their eternal pawns from suffering horrible lethal damage that might take hours or perhaps even days to recover from. After all, they're only mortals, and what is a few hours or days to one of the fey?

The Weird Sisters certainly didn't stop Canmore from shoving a sword through Macbeth in City of Stone Part IV, which he recovered from inside of ten minutes.

Demona fell, unconcious and surrounded by falling rubble, off the Eyrie Building, and turned up again without a scratch in Tempation. Did the Weird Sisters contrive her up something soft to land on, and steer all the rocks away?

I'm sorry, it's Greg's show and he can, of course, set the rules however he sees fit. I just simply feel saying "Yeah, Macbeth and Demona have Wolverine's healing factor, you really can't kill them." sounds better than "A wizard did it."

Which, come to think of it, is the explanation for the other contestant for "most powerful application of magic ever displayed in the gargoyles universe," The Spell of Humility.

Funny how the S&P guidelines, not the Eye, the Gate, and the Grimorum are really the ultimate talismans of magic power, isn't it? ;p
Aaron - [amgc_art at yahoo dot com]
Jack of all trades, master of porn
posted @ Thu, Nov 16, 2006 4:48:19 pm EST from 70.244.251.68

Bishansky: Not to mention trite.
Harvester of Eyes
"It all looks fine to the naked eye, but it don't really happen that way at all."
posted @ Thu, Nov 16, 2006 6:50:44 am EST from 69.175.67.68

AARON> Not a cop out, but it is true to the mythology the Sisters are based on.

I think the T-1000 thing would look stupid, personally.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Wed, Nov 15, 2006 10:44:01 pm EST from 68.202.44.89

Funny. Now I have this vision of Demona getting her head lopped off sometime in the early 1800s, having to carry it around for a time until she finds a way to reattach it, and unwittingly serving as an inspiration for Washington Irving.
Harvester of Eyes
"It all looks fine to the naked eye, but it don't really happen that way at all."
posted @ Wed, Nov 15, 2006 5:51:16 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

'OOMMM'? Just kidding.

As much as I like the T-1000 version of Demona and Macbeth I'd have to stick with Greg's explaination for the simple reason that S&P would clearly not allow such a gorey resurrection.
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Remember the old Gargoyles comics!
posted @ Wed, Nov 15, 2006 3:48:19 pm EST from 69.54.209.13

I dunno, I always considered Greg's answer to be a bit of a cop-out on that subject.

The idea that the Weird Sisters are that powerful, and can create a spell that passively influences events to keep Macbeth and Demona from taking horrible amounts of damage just seems massively contrived to me.

Personally, I prefer the T-1000 interpretation, i.e., if you blow them up, they simply reconstitute themselves with a giant wet slurpy noise, and then kick your butt for attacking them.
Aaron - [amgc_art at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Wed, Nov 15, 2006 2:18:28 pm EST from 66.142.70.253

HoE - Thanks for the review. Glad ytou enjoyed it! : ) ...and yeah, that one was way too long. let's never do that again, okay?

<< I was actually discussing this with someone the other night: what are the specific parameters of the spell Demona is under?>> ...We kicked this around a bit way back, when I was planning the Cathedral fight. What happens if Demona gets ground to paste? Or she gets shattered during the day? How would she come back from that?

Paraphrasing "Ask Greg", the answer is that no one knows, because those things have never happened. part of that, apparently, is destiny at work. We don't know what the limits of the spell are, because part of the spell is that the limits aren't pushed. Personally, I think that's a pretty slick answer, and much more satisfying than trying to reason out hypotheticals in detail.

As for how Demona escaped in the end... well, let's say for now that she cut a deal with a sympathetic ear...

*kapwings*
Gunjack "Conan the Librarian" Valentine
No, I'm not drunk and I'm not sad - there's nothing inside that I want back...
posted @ Wed, Nov 15, 2006 1:12:36 pm EST from 205.250.215.79

I know that this is technically not a quote, but I have always liked it.

"For all of their suffering and trials, Othello and Desdemona had finally come home."

I also really liked Griff's speach in Carbonet.
Adam - [carl006_1999 at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Tue, Nov 14, 2006 11:46:54 pm EST from 67.190.200.144

WARNING: "HUNGRY SHADOWS" SPOILERS

Honestly, I felt that the story seemed to be dragging on for quite a bit. But I felt that the finale more than made up for it. This was secretly what I'd been waiting for the entire story: the showdown between Demona and the Hunter.

One very nice touch was Demona underestimating Canmore females. It would stand to reason that she's encountered predominantly male Hunters down through the centuries. Methinks Fiona's great-nephew should have paid closer attention to the lessons of his elders.

I also liked the whole religious aspect. It would stand to reason that some of the Hunters throughout the centuries might consider their duty to be sacred on another level. They do call everyone's favorite immortal the Demon, after all.

One thing I did have a few issues with was the ending. I was actually discussing this with someone the other night: what are the specific parameters of the spell Demona is under? I mean, yes, being eaten alive wouldn't kill her, but would the magic of the Sisters completely restore her from such a thing? I guess that's open to debate. My own thoughts are: she gets an arm or her head cut off, well... eventually it would heal, but she'd need to find someone willing to sew it back on first. Getting feasted on by a bunch of half-human underdwellers, that would be a bit trickier to walk away completely intact from.

But overall, I was pleased with how it wrapped up. Sadly, it was almost two years ago that I read the first part, so the details of the Eye are fuzzy, but it was good to see Demona finally take center stage. And use it for blasphemy.

END SPOILERS.

As for favorite quotes, can't think of too many right now. One of my favorite moments in the ficverse was that Madoc's final act on the mortal plane was to spit in his twin brother's face. As far as quotes are concerned, the only one leaping to mind right now comes from the Pendragon story "Preservation."

Dictynna (speaking to Griff): "We believe you to be innocent. After all, you are a gargoyle, and none of your kind would ever stoop to such an act of theft." The moral of the story is, don't isolate yourself in the Himalayas too much. ( ;
Harvester of Eyes
"It all looks fine to the naked eye, but it don't really happen that way at all."
posted @ Tue, Nov 14, 2006 8:26:54 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

Well, I'll add my two cents now that the trilogy's been finished up (in four parts no less). I've read through all the parts of Hungry Shadows and liked them all. Great writing, plot, characterization and a peek into the "lost years". You all took your time and it shows.
The Barracuda
posted @ Tue, Nov 14, 2006 3:23:20 pm EST from 204.209.150.46

Does anybody have any favorite quotes from tgs stories? If so, please share them. ;-)
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity
posted @ Tue, Nov 14, 2006 2:29:32 pm EST from 161.31.67.108

Aww, no "Ommm?" oh well. it'd probably take a month to get it going anyway, and then people would forget why we were doing it.

Annie: Thank you. Now if I could only get lain to believe it...

I've completely forgotten what else it was I wanted to say. oh well.
Lynati
posted @ Mon, Nov 13, 2006 4:50:45 pm EST from 70.242.185.221

Lynati- you still have your silent lurking stalkers that are in fact reading. Don't worry. We may not post hardly ever if at all, but we are always watching....
Annie
posted @ Mon, Nov 13, 2006 3:23:34 pm EST from 24.119.146.58

I dunno I was just bored. Time for some Mario Mix DDR.
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Sun, Nov 12, 2006 9:31:20 pm EST from 69.137.244.26

If we're going to get the room together to repeat a single syllable, shouldn't it be an 'OMMM' ?
Lynati
posted @ Sun, Nov 12, 2006 2:43:25 pm EST from 70.242.185.221

I think Dezi's onto something. If we started a sing-along it might speed this CR up and I'll start with:


Tralalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala.

Everyone start sing together now!
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Remember the old Gargoyles comics!
posted @ Sun, Nov 12, 2006 2:05:41 pm EST from 69.54.209.24

La La La.....
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Sun, Nov 12, 2006 2:50:22 am EST from 69.137.244.26

Or if you have the DVD, you can watch the uncut version.
Harvester of Eyes
"It all looks fine to the naked eye, but it don't really happen that way at all."
posted @ Thu, Nov 9, 2006 7:00:16 am EST from 69.175.67.68

Deadly force is on Gargoyles tonight if you havent seen this rare episode.
silvadel
posted @ Thu, Nov 9, 2006 3:32:16 am EST from 24.149.178.180

Shara: Hit me up when you have the time; my email is below and you can reach me on AIM at pretty much any time between noon and ten pm, central time... my handle is LynatiKshudra

I think I have an idea for you guys, but I'll have to run it past another couple of the staff first. And if you are looking for an already-released story to do in the meantime, we can talk that over too.

*goes back to working on an outline*
Lynati - [Lynati_1 at hotmail dot com]
posted @ Wed, Nov 8, 2006 7:52:15 pm EST from 70.242.185.221

It's too bad we cant get more people in this room, because the stories from TGS are really amazing.

Lynati> We still need to converse on making one of them into a comic.
Shara
posted @ Wed, Nov 8, 2006 5:46:28 pm EST from 4.245.122.71

Lynati> No, a week's not much time at all! This was an unexpected surprise after months of no new eps. I liked it too. It's so full of action, I kept imaigining how it would look on screen :) .
Lurking Echo
posted @ Wed, Nov 8, 2006 12:29:22 am EST from 24.47.125.214

Dezi, Yggdrasil: Thank you.

I'm just a bit nervous about the delays in posting and our evaporating audience; it's nice to be reminded there are people out there who are still interested in reading the project. And who after reading a story declare it to have been worthwhile. : )

And thank you Spen and Harvester for reminding me that a week is too short a time to wait before fretting over disinterest; after all, there are people who have put up stories more than a month ago who I still ought to go back and comment on. I hope you enjoy the story when you get to it.

Adam: Delays are never fun, but I've waited ten years to see Weisman's continuation. I'm not going to complain about couple extra months, like the story just hit an expiration date and now is no longer worth it. I'm hoping they've been using this time to improve the art and editing so we don't have the same mistakes as in issue #1.

Also, they aren't delaying the comic deliberately to piss us off; they want it out asap so they can make money of off it. I'd wager that SLG is just as irked by the setbacks us we are, if not more so. To us its a story; to them its part of their company's liveliehood.
Lynati
posted @ Tue, Nov 7, 2006 9:09:03 pm EST from 70.242.185.221

I don't mean to be rude. But is anyone else getting kind of fed up waiting for Gargoyles #2 to come out?
Adam - [carl006_1999 at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Tue, Nov 7, 2006 1:15:51 pm EST from 67.190.200.144

Greetings:

Lynati: Just because we're slow, don’t think that we don't think that you're doing a great job. I finally finished the latest episode, and all I can say is well done. You, Lain, Gunjack and Aaron, did a really good job in crafting this series. I though from the beginning that having Demona as a central character was a nice touch. I thought that you captured the emotion in her predicament very well, so well in fact that we, as readers, are rooting for the hunter.

Good job, all the best.

On another note, Saskatoon is bloody well freezing!

P.S. I hope the move is all sorted out.
Yggdrasil - [eng050599 at hotmail dot com]
posted @ Mon, Nov 6, 2006 10:38:59 pm EST from 72.140.112.237

And me, I'm writing my own shit. And trying to finish editing it so it will be ready by December 1st. Much as I value Taina's opinion, I really think I'll need to drop this whole "alternate ending" idea. I like it fine the way it is.
Harvester of Eyes
"It all looks fine to the naked eye, but it don't really happen that way at all."
posted @ Mon, Nov 6, 2006 7:11:02 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

Lynati : I wouldn't think so. I'd say that, like me, most people simply don't have enough time to read the story yet. I will be reading it today though, and hopefully giving some feedback soon after.
Spen
posted @ Sun, Nov 5, 2006 4:06:24 pm EST from 216.248.119.208

Lynati: <proud> as you should be. I liked Hungry Shadows.

To me, I don't see it as a Demona-only kind of story. There was probably a lot that happened between 994 AD and when the gargs woke up (and afterward). So ok, they were dreaming gargie dreams for most of it, but Demona was out there doing her thing, so I see Hungry Shadows as an installment of what happened then. Hunter's Moon told the story of Demona and the Hunters but just kinda touched on what had happened over the last 1000 years. This was a spot light on her interaction with one of the Hunters.

It was also interesting to me, that I ended up rooting for the Hunter. I had imagined that, since I was more exposed to Demona than the other Hunters that I would probably end up rooting for her, especially since the Hunters seem to be responsible for most of the garg destruction over the last 1000 years (even though it WAS Demona that caused the Hunter, blah blah blah). But I really really wasn't gonna root for the bone eaters, those guys just creeped me out horribly. Especially how it was formatted when they spoke, like voices coming out of shadows a mob of them that you weren't sure where that sound was coming from, who said that? kind of feeling. Brouchard and Fiona were fleshed out well and added another layer to the garg history. In a way, like Dom Dracon and Mace Malone. They really had nothing to do with the gargs themselves (aside from the Illuminati angle) but just added a sense of spanning time to the story. These were guys that seemed big like, what, 60 years earlier? and here they still factored in in 1996. I would like to see more of the adventures of Fiona and Phillip, or at least to see what ever happened to them. Did this one instance in Demona's past turn out to be key to something in the present (besides the fact that it was a Canmore/Hunter)? You know, like what effect did it have.

The story was written great, in my opinion. It was a little difficult to get into because it was a new thing. It was set up properly so that even tho it was new, once I got in (about five paragraphs in, I believe) I was in. But since it was new, I think the fact that it was so long between eps made it hard to hold on to. I know you guys have busy lives, I'm not faulting, just pointing out. Timedancer, Dark Ages, Main Gargs, have a history. It's easier to pick up where we left off. But I started to get fuzzy on the beginnings of Hungry Shadows, because it didnt have all that history to already make a larger mark in my mind. I know that when the new season finally get up here, I'm gonna have to go back and re-read some parts of the older seasons to refresh my memory. But sometimes the last thing you want to do when you get all excited for something new is stop and think, oh yeah, first I gotta go back and read some stuff I've already read before I get to new stuff. So then I sit there and hope I remember. If the story is written well enough (as this one was) I won't feel lost, or my memory will be jarred enough on the important stuff to "get" this one.

I'm looking forward to the Bad Guys. It's all part of the big picture, the big garg world and TGS's interpretation of it. Bad Guys was part of the master plan, right? Even though it seemed a little lower on the list (Timedancer NEEDED to occur so we knew were Sata and co, came from in mainline gargs) as long as it makes sense in the larger garg world, I don't care which one comes first, season wise. And the Untold Tales are just that. Untold stories to fill in the blanks and round out the rest of the world, the parts where we just kinda imagine what had happened to whoever.

So yeah, at least one person cares. I don't know if that's good enough for you guys or not, but I still appreciate a good story when its put in front of me. Thanks. (Keep'em coming!)

Beyond that I have no clue where everyone is. LOL maybe I chased them all away. Maybe they're all at gramma's house with no internet. Or it seems that alot of us are around a similar age, so maybe all as one phase, life stuff just keeps getting in the way. I'm still looking forward to the next installment of whatever ep of whatever series is posted on this site. Yay!
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Sun, Nov 5, 2006 4:05:29 pm EST from 69.137.244.26

Dezi: ...yeah, you would, wouldn't you? I guess either people just aren't as interested in Demona-related stories as we thought, or when that one comment about "its not a whole season" was made, it was right, and people just don't care about stand-alone stories.

Possibly Demmie just wasn't enough of a representitive of the core-cast to draw interest, and it was Weisman's writing more than her presence that made everyone so interested in the Hunter Atlantis ep to begin with.
Which has me a bit worried, because it's starting to look like we'll be releasing the first season of Bad Guys before the fourth season of Gargs.

Or there's another option, which is that the story isn't as good as we thought, and people are staying quiet rather than say so. Is it that the story idea wasn't interesting enough to read in the first place, or that it wasn't interesting enough to comment on? 'Cause it's not that we haven't been putting the word out that it exists.

Ah well. We're pround of Hungry Shadows regardless. ^_^
Lynati
"and these are the days that never end!"
posted @ Sun, Nov 5, 2006 3:17:20 pm EST from 70.245.207.53

Hmmmm, the next installment of "Hungry Shadows." I'll have to read this eventually.

Greg B: <David Hedgecock is taking too long to draw them.> I had a feeling it was something like that. Mind if I paste that over in S8 to silence all those people who keep saying that the comic is doomed already?
Harvester of Eyes
"It all looks fine to the naked eye, but it don't really happen that way at all."
posted @ Sun, Nov 5, 2006 2:09:23 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

Yeah, you'd think a story posting woulda sparked some more commentary....*crickets chirp*

ok ummm...

1....2....3...

Go David Go! Go David Go! Rah! Rah! Draw! Draw!
Draw David Draw!
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Sun, Nov 5, 2006 12:13:08 am EST from 69.137.244.26

DEZI> <<What's up with the regular Garg stories anyway?>>

David Hedgecock is taking too long to draw them.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- George Lucas's Table Scraps]
"I am The Decider!" - President George Walker Bush
posted @ Sat, Nov 4, 2006 5:50:28 pm EST from 68.202.44.89

No prob! I'll give more feed back....but now I have a craving for more stories!!!!!

ummmm I ate too much candy. Ok bye.

ps. What's up with the regular Garg stories anyway?
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Sat, Nov 4, 2006 5:21:26 pm EST from 69.137.244.26

Wow, actual feedback! *hugs Dezi*

Gunjack: I got a little further on that story tonight...and I finished rounding out the chapter names. For future reference, you really shouldn't let me do that at 1am.
Lynati
If you thought the Res Dogs reference was bad, you should see the Christmas Carol lyrics.
posted @ Thu, Nov 2, 2006 3:24:09 am EST from 70.245.207.53

Guys. I liked that one. It was cool. Awesome job. Now I'm sleepy and flu-ish and will get some sleep. And this time I won't be as creeped out by the story. :) More! More! More!
Dezi
Moto-surf!!
posted @ Thu, Nov 2, 2006 1:54:08 am EST from 69.137.244.26

Hey DPH, Gunjack (and I) want to know if you still have a copy of the outline (not the draft Tony wrote, just the original outline) for a story called "Shakedown". Can you look and see if it happens to be tucked away in your computer somewhere?
Lynati
posted @ Wed, Nov 1, 2006 6:12:13 pm EST from 70.245.207.53

Wth? *A giant crash is heard as the dph of rules's hologram's lower jaw meets the tgs cr floor*

Gunjack - <I'm FREE! I'M FREEEE!> You're never really free as long as you keep getting ideas that demand to be implemented/written.
dph_of_rules's hologram
Whatever happenned to simplicity?
posted @ Wed, Nov 1, 2006 4:28:31 pm EST from 161.31.67.89

A new webcomic has been posted at the gargoyle webcomic site.

CHeck it out and leave us feedback and support us so we can keep making them. Just telling one person about the site helps us out.


http://www.ka-blamo.com/gargs/

We are still interested in making a comic out of one of the TGS stories in the future.

A new survey is posted as well its ninja turtles vrs the gargoyles.
Shara - [jeanie54_2000 at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Wed, Nov 1, 2006 5:53:06 am EST from 4.246.213.167

...So yeah, we had to break it again. Don't worry, we've got all but two sentences of the writing done, so it should only take another three months until we can release part five...

Just kidding. :P

I'm FREE! I'M FREEEE!

*trip*
*thud*
*sploosh*

...Dangit!
Gunjack "Mon Sewer" Valentine - [< Hazard Pay]
A *magical* leopluradon! -the pink unicorn
posted @ Wed, Nov 1, 2006 1:14:06 am EST from 205.250.215.79

It's two minutes to midnight, so all you late-night gals and ghouls light a candle and pull up a chair.

We're going to finish telling a story...

TGS presents Hungry Shadows, part 4.


http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/ut/UT1-04_HungryShadows4.htm
Lynati - [Lynati_1 at hotmail dot com]
Happy Halloween!
posted @ Wed, Nov 1, 2006 1:03:21 am EST from 70.245.207.53

Spen> <<Nice to see you back here>>: Let's see how long I last this time.

Starsinger> <<I love Hiro and friend and thier Las Vegas adventures>>: I was quite impressed when I heard that the actor is a ILM programmer, having done a bunch of water effects. First Grant Imahara, now Hiro, it seems ILM is the place to be to move in front of the camera.

Na zdorov'ya
Gside - [gside at comcast dot net]
posted @ Tue, Oct 31, 2006 10:37:48 pm EST from 69.141.213.120

Happy Halloween!
Mecord
posted @ Tue, Oct 31, 2006 8:39:10 pm EST from 63.230.5.218

Happy Halloween, everyone!

If I had better drawing skills, and knew how to scan art, I'd have probably uploaded a picture somewhere on the Internet (in an appropriate place of Merlin and Mary Sefton attending a Halloween costume party dressed as Harry Potter and Hermione Granger.
Todd Jensen
posted @ Tue, Oct 31, 2006 7:31:39 pm EST from 4.245.20.104

Hey Gunjack, when you finish with the thing, come on AIM and ping me, I have some research and some feedback for you concerning the other document you forwarded to me the other night.
Lynati
posted @ Tue, Oct 31, 2006 4:16:40 pm EST from 70.245.207.53

Starsinger: <Yes and everyone at JoAnn's is trying to be Jedi or Wizard of Oz characters>

Don't they know that the Jedi are all n00bs? That or they're KOS. Further explanation can be found here, though I imagine most have seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySsGmQVukNU
Harvester of Eyes
"It all looks fine to the naked eye, but it don't really happen that way at all."
posted @ Mon, Oct 30, 2006 5:26:33 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

Yes and everyone at JoAnn's is trying to be Jedi or Wizard of Oz characters. Some of the costumes are going to be way to cute, such as the lady who is going as the wicked witch, her husband as one of the witch's guards and her baby as one of the flying monkey's.

Pity I have to work. Ohh well, I'll leave candy at the doors front and back and one lucky kid will be greedy and take it all.
Starsinger
posted @ Sun, Oct 29, 2006 11:25:14 pm EST from 209.240.206.197

mm, it'll be Halloween soon...
Lynati
posted @ Sun, Oct 29, 2006 8:44:37 pm EST from 70.245.22.199

STARSINGER - Yes, I think that Hiro's one of the most appealing characters in "Heroes" - his excitement, enthusiasm, and delight over the discoveries that he's making is a major reason for that (such as his response to meeting the flying politician in the latest episode).
Todd Jensen
posted @ Sun, Oct 29, 2006 8:44:19 pm EST from 4.244.214.77

And away we go on with the show! ;)
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Remember the old Gargoyles comics!
posted @ Sun, Oct 29, 2006 2:42:21 pm EST from 69.54.209.18

Son of a bitch!

Well, 10 is nice and round, I guess.
Harvester of Eyes
"Shooting a video is fine if you're the singer. You just sing into the camera. And the guitarist can twang his guitar. But what's a drummer supposed to do? I just have to jerk along with the music feeling like a dick." -Stewart Copeland
posted @ Sun, Oct 29, 2006 12:50:37 pm EST from 69.175.67.68

Well, we have had sevaeral weeks of Heros, any comments as to how you like the show? I love Hiro and friend and thier Las Vegas adventures. Some of the twists with the others are interesting.

Anyone else, watching Superboy and the Legion of Superheros. Having been around from the earliest years of the original comic, I find it an interesting deja vu seeing the changes and similarities of the two story lines. Things I remember and things that are updated.
Starsinger
posted @ Sun, Oct 29, 2006 9:36:11 am EST from 209.240.206.213

DPH : Because we asked for it to be.
Spen
posted @ Sat, Oct 28, 2006 6:17:33 pm EDT from 216.248.119.208

9th

Why is the room being wiped?
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity?
posted @ Sat, Oct 28, 2006 4:49:37 pm EDT from 71.29.247.83

Eighth!

Gside : Nice to see you back here.
Spen
posted @ Sat, Oct 28, 2006 4:29:14 pm EDT from 216.248.119.208

The very prime 7th.

I still live, but work hasn't been nice to me.

Na zdorov'ya.
Gside - [gside at comcast dot net]
posted @ Sat, Oct 28, 2006 4:01:56 pm EDT from 69.141.213.120

Six -- amazing they refreshed the board.
silvadel
posted @ Sat, Oct 28, 2006 2:42:49 pm EDT from 24.149.178.180

I guess I'm fiver(5) then. But where is the fun in this when the countdown is so slow that it takes an entire weekend?
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Remember the old Gargoyles comics!
posted @ Sat, Oct 28, 2006 12:48:58 pm EDT from 69.54.209.127

Four.

Four, its such a nice number...so very...square.
Lynati
posted @ Sat, Oct 28, 2006 12:43:36 pm EDT from 70.245.22.199

Three Is Meeeeee!
Starsinger
posted @ Sat, Oct 28, 2006 9:17:57 am EDT from 209.240.206.201

2nd! I was wondering when the room would wipe.
Mecord
posted @ Sat, Oct 28, 2006 7:55:53 am EDT from 63.230.5.218

There you go then.

:)
Lurking Fish - [<The PAIIIIINNNN!!!]
No, I'm not drunk and I'm not sad - there's nothing inside that I want back...
posted @ Sat, Oct 28, 2006 2:26:59 am EDT from 205.250.215.79