... There had also been a pretty pathetic amount of posting, and I was just away over the weekend. I'll wipe the room now and (hopefully) go back to every 2 weeks, depending on activity.

:)
Lain
posted @ Tue, May 23, 2006 8:01:00 pm EDT from 205.250.215.79

Spen: We made the announcement a little over a month ago that the room would be wiping every two weeks now, since the traffic flow no longer warrants a weekly wipe. There wasn't much to-do over the announcement, so it is not surprising you missed it.
Lynati
posted @ Tue, May 23, 2006 7:29:51 pm EDT from 70.104.20.101

Taleweaver's comment inadvertantly reminded me of something else about "Preservation." I remember commenting once (I think it was in Station 8) that if Griff smoked, it would likely be a pipe (I think we were discussing smoking gargoyles for some reason). When I read about him playing detective, that image of him with a pipe came back into my head. ( ;
Harvester of Eyes
"The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?"
posted @ Tue, May 23, 2006 5:37:47 pm EDT from 69.174.3.196

Greetings all,

Since it Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's birthday this week, I thought I'd recommend the Timedancer episode, "Gothic Twilight". It's an enjoyable read.
Taleweaver
posted @ Tue, May 23, 2006 9:52:48 am EDT from 4.233.29.54

DPH > No problem. Always glad to help. Christi was a double threat back in the day writing and illustrating stories. Consequently she often has double credits.
kathy
posted @ Tue, May 23, 2006 8:15:53 am EDT from 69.19.14.33

HARVESTER - I'm glad that you're enjoying "Carbonek" so far. To answer your question about Tanaburs, he comes from a medieval French work about the Grail Quest which describes him as a magician who built the Grail Castle of Carbonek. That was all; everything else about the character in TGS was the staff's invention.

And keep on reading; there's more to come!
Todd Jensen
posted @ Tue, May 23, 2006 7:48:31 am EDT from 4.244.213.17

Spen: I do it every time. Otherwise, it could get unpleasant.

Todd: I've actually heard mixed things about the movie. The summer movies I'm primarily looking forward to are "X3" (about which I have mixed feelings, since Bryan Singer had to bail on it to do "Superman Returns"), "Superman Returns" (for the aforementioned reason), "Lady in the Water," and "Clerks 2." And perhaps "Snakes on a Plane."


Ah, what the hell. It's slow in here. I'll just put down a few thoughts on "Part 1:"

I was not expecting Morgana to reveal herself like that to Nigel. That was a very nice little surprise. I'm wondering where that's going to lead to. Of course, part of me thinks that he's going ahead with the wedding simply because if he were to call it off, it would look scandalous, and he's got his reputation as a Knight of the British Empire to think of, after all.

I'm also starting to figure out why people have been telling me to finish this series before I finish Timedancer. I love it when things get foreboding. And I like the character of Tanaburs. Is he based off any figure from the Grail legends? I'm toying with voices right now, and I should make an updated list at some point after finishing the series.

And an interesting little twist at the end. I wonder what might happen if Merlin should find out...
Harvester of Eyes
"The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?"
posted @ Tue, May 23, 2006 6:58:30 am EDT from 69.174.3.196

You know, I only just noticed that apperantly room wiping is no longer every other week. Anyone know the new wiping schedule? Is it now every month?
Spen
posted @ Mon, May 22, 2006 11:14:07 pm EDT from 216.248.119.208

HARVESTER - One thing that occurred to me just now (and which I find interesting) is that you'd be reading the finale of the Grail Quest arc in "Pendragon" just as "The Da Vinci Code" is coming out in the theatres. (Though its take on the Grail is a lot different from TGS's; TGS emphasized the Arthurian origins of the Grail over its connections to Jesus Christ, while the "Da Vinci Code" did the reverse, even presenting an almost de-Arthurianized Grail.)
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, May 22, 2006 7:03:47 pm EDT from 4.245.21.149

Kathy - Thanks. I wasn't sure if that was typo or what-not because Christi Hayden also did artwork for said story. I was fairly sure that was the case, but I don't like to assume squat. <The credits tried to reflect all that as best they could.> I understand, being one who has added credits on.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity? Looking for a roommate for the gathering.
posted @ Mon, May 22, 2006 6:21:22 pm EDT from 63.232.223.229

Honestly Bishansky, there's no need to be rude.

Hazards - Written by Brian Dumlao and Alison Wilgus with contributions by JEB. Additional material by Christi Smith Hayden. Story Concept by Todd Jensen, Kathy Pogge, and Patrick Toman. Illustrations by Christi Smith Hayden and Alison Wilgus.

Translates as Brian Dumlao and Alison Wilgus wrote the core of the story. JEB helped as did Christi.

Story credits didn't really hit a somewhat standardized formula until probably somewhere in the second season.

A story could have multiple contributors - initially assigned co writers, people who kicked in scenes when writers got stuck and even editors who did smoothing drafts to make a cohesive whole when many different writers were involved.

The credits tried to reflect all that as best they could.

Hope this helps.
kathy
posted @ Mon, May 22, 2006 12:11:12 pm EDT from 69.19.14.22

DPH> This is not exactly rocket science. If there names are credited on the story, then that means they worked on it.
Greg Bishansky
"Plato once said that for everything that exists, there is a perfect form of it somewhere. A perfect human being, a perfect chair, a perfect stick, so that everything is a shadow of that one perfect form. Now, if we follow that train of thought, that means that somewhere in the universe there exists the perfect form of the absolute and complete idiot and he left here an hour ago." - Matthew Gideon
posted @ Sun, May 21, 2006 3:17:18 pm EDT from 68.202.14.214

Ok, I got a question about credits for a Gargoyles/Pendragon Season 2 story:

Hazards - Written by Brian Dumlao and Alison Wilgus with contributions by JEB. Additional material by Christi Smith Hayden. Story Concept by Todd Jensen, Kathy Pogge, and Patrick Toman. Illustrations by Christi Smith Hayden and Alison Wilgus.

Does that mean 4 people co-wrote the art story or was there a notation with regards to "Additional material by"?

I've worked my way all the way up to the point in doing data entry for credits for stories and outlines and I'm confused.

143 pages (and climbing) of data entry commands.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity? Looking for a roommate for the gathering.
posted @ Sun, May 21, 2006 12:42:47 am EDT from 63.232.250.59

HARVESTER - Thanks for your comments. I'm glad that you liked the story.

I think that Vorones might well have worked all the better as a red herring because anybody familiar with "Gargoyles" would have already come across a case where a person had befriended a group of beings that were shunned and disliked by his community, was displeased about the way that the rest of the community disliked those beings and looked down upon them, and was not too happy, either, about the way that his community was starting to ostracize him because of his support of those strange beings. No prizes for whom I'm referring to here, of course. (Though now I don't remember whether I was thinking of that when I was writing the story or whether it occurred to me only afterwards.)
Todd Jensen
posted @ Sat, May 20, 2006 6:22:49 pm EDT from 4.245.19.236

I found out earlier this week that the Suncoast at my local mall was going out of business. I hated shopping there when they were open, since everything was too damn expensive. But now their entire inventory is 40-60 percent off. Picked up seven DVDs this week for about 80 bucks. Ironically, I'm going to miss them now. ( ;


Okay, finally found time for another review:

Perhaps what I enjoyed most about "Preservation" was that it really gave Griff a chance to come into the foreground. That, and I like the idea of a preserve for "mythical" creatures. The setting descriptions were very nice. And then there was Griff playing detective. Thankfully, he didn't have a sidekick. Well, sort of. I like the way that Vorones eventually helped Griff to bring the culprits into light, especially since it was set up to make the reader think that Vorones might be the guilty party. I knew from the get-go that that probably wasn't true, since it was too obvious. Appearances are deceiving, after all (this is especially true after hearing Vorones explain the true nature of the Catoblepas to Griff). So that little twist at the end sort of caught me off-guard, especially since Nyctimus had been so convincing in being repulsed by Mary when he learned her true nature.

On a side note, my favorite moment of dialogue was when Dictynna was telling Griff that he was above suspicion, since no gargoyle would ever stoop to theft. These people REALLY need to get out more.

Well, that might be the last one for a while. I'm waiting until I'm done with the entire finale, and then submitting a very long post on that. But right now, I wanted to say that it looks like it's building to something interesting. A lot of neglected characters are making appearances again.
Harvester of Eyes
"The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?"
posted @ Sat, May 20, 2006 8:56:29 am EDT from 69.174.3.196

SPEN - Yes, that was our original plan for the character. However, after thinking about it some more and discussing it on the list, we decided that it wasn't such a good idea, since we'd already wound up with too many new characters, more than we could honestly keep track of. Unfortunately, that understanding came *after* we wrote (and maybe after we released - it's been so long now that I can no longer be certain) "The Tain" (which wound up being a real nightmare of a story anyway, largely because we hadn't written enough of an outline for it in Breakdowns - little more than "Arthur and Griff meet Rory in Ireland, but Maeve shows up as well" - and the writers didn't know where to go with it.

Of course, under the circumstances, it seems more advisable to *not* give Matt a sister - though at least we didn't have her mysteriously disappear when they were both kids and have Matt suspect that the Illuminati were behind their disappearance and head off on his big hunt for them as a result. :)
Todd Jensen
posted @ Sat, May 20, 2006 6:39:33 am EDT from 4.244.209.202

THANKS SO MUCH GOREBASH!

Lynati: <<Have you had any chance to work on a staff/admin-only posting page? There's no hurry, but we would still like one at some point.>>
Oops, I totally forgot to ask him about that. In case he doesn't read the comments here, I'll email him. I'm so sorry about that.

CR Information update coming soon. (Also posting to confirm if the Goliath & Demona (Silhouette) pic works now.)
Lady Mystic
Admin of TGS CR Information
posted @ Sat, May 20, 2006 5:52:02 am EDT from 68.73.10.199

Anybody seen Vash lately? I was wondering if Vash was doing alright since the gnc hasn't been updated in quite a while.

Oh yea, if you haven't heard, all the hotel rooms reserved at the Gathering of the Gargoyles rate are booked.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity? Looking for a roommate for the gathering.
posted @ Sat, May 20, 2006 2:27:16 am EDT from 63.232.250.22

Well, things seem to be a bit dead here.

Makhasu : "am working on creating what's probably the only new Gargoyles site in the last three years" Not the only one. If I ever actually get around to making it, there's also my TGS encyclopedia.

Lynati : "why is it whenever I start a good project, someone on the other side of the fandom starts doing something right similar to it?" Great minds think alike? (Wait a minute. If that's the case, then I would be counted on the great minds list. So that's definatly not it.)

I was re-reading "The Tain" yesterday, and was wondering something. Is Janey (the woman Arthur was talking to at the conference) Matt Bluestone's sister?
Spen
posted @ Fri, May 19, 2006 7:48:25 pm EDT from 216.248.119.208

Woohoo!! Thank you, Gorebash. Have you had any chance to work on a staff/admin-only posting page? There's no hurry, but we would still like one at some point.
Lynati - [Lynati_1@hotmail.com]
posted @ Thu, May 18, 2006 2:12:31 am EDT from 70.104.20.101

Oh, sweet sweet nectar!
Harvester of Eyes
"The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?"
posted @ Wed, May 17, 2006 8:55:01 pm EDT from 69.174.3.196

Works good. Thank you, Gorebash for the updated security.
Starsinger
posted @ Wed, May 17, 2006 6:46:40 pm EDT from 209.240.205.62

Just a friendly reminder that, due to the late update, voting for AMGC's April topic will run until midnight tonight. So if you haven't already, go vote!
Aaron - [amgc_art@yahoo.com]
Jack of all trades, master of porn
posted @ Wed, May 17, 2006 6:16:39 pm EDT from 69.150.74.197

New room? NEw spam gaurding technologies? Coooooooooooool.
Gunjack "Hecatonchires" Valentine
posted @ Wed, May 17, 2006 4:27:41 pm EDT from 205.250.215.79

Thank you Gorebash. Hopefully, we shouldn't have spam bots in this cr anymore.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity? Looking for a roommate for the gathering.
posted @ Wed, May 17, 2006 2:40:34 pm EDT from 63.232.251.117

Well, I didn't think this was ever going to happen. Looks like I'm the first person (other than Gorebash anyway) to post in the new room.
Spen
posted @ Wed, May 17, 2006 2:16:36 pm EDT from 216.248.119.208

Okay guys, the TGS CR has been moved over to the new CR system. City/State/Zip fields have been replaced with a "signature" field. There is also a security code (captcha) that you have to enter before you can submit your post. This is to defend against spam bots.

Your settings should be saved via cookies as well. So every time you come back to post you'll only need to fill out your comment and the security code.

Any questions/comments/issues just let me know.
Gorebash - [gorebash@s8.org]
"Slow and steady" --Broadway
posted @ Wed, May 17, 2006 12:45:01 pm EDT from 207.206.246.248